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Phantom Thief! Pokémon 7 Article

For the Phantom Thief! Pokémon 7 Article, should I use PTP701?

Kingofun 07:44, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

Sounds good. ZestyCactus 18:30, 6 September 2009 (UTC)


Why is the main page theme Snorunt and Froslass?

PS: You can get rid of this and reply on my talk if you'd like. --ケンジガール 05:16, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

September 9 and some other things. --☆Coolピカチュウ! 05:21, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
I figured it was for September 9th, but why? --ケンジガール 05:35, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
Echy knows more. --☆Coolピカチュウ! 05:36, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
⑨/⑨/⑨, KG. TTEchidna 06:23, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
... I know, but WHY? What does Froslass and Snorunt have to do with 09/09/09? D= --ケンジガール 06:25, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
⑨ deals with a character who has ice powers. --☆Coolピカチュウ! 06:26, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
Wow. It looks awesome. Happy Cirno day. Thanks, :3 Kevzo8 12:07, 9 September 2009 (UTC)


201 Spoiler warning: this article may contain major plot or ending details. 201

I added some spoiler warnings to the pages about movie characters, as they contained major spoilers for the movies in which they appeared, but then someone deleted them all! Surely it's really important to have warnings on these pages?! Taromon777 14:13, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

If you dont want to be spoiled, then dont look at the page. Simple Blake Talk·Edits 14:36, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
But visitors need to be warned that there are spoilers on the page! What's the point in having any spoiler warnings at all if only some of the articles with spoilers have them? Some people might read the Latios (anime) article example, thinking it doesn't contain spoilers because it has no spoiler warning, and then find out the entire plot of Heroes before they watch it! I know this is an encyclopedia, but it is still really important to include spoiler warnings on all the pages which contain them. Why don't the articles about movie characters need spoiler warnings even though they contain the exact same spoilers that the articles about the movies do? Why did my spoiler warnings get deleted? Please can I have some help from an administrator? Taromon777 09:41, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
I dislike spoiler warnings. May I ask how you believe how we can have an article about anything without filling you in on some kind of plot detail? We may as well put it on every single page. —darklordtrom 09:46, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
I didn't mean a warning for EVERY spoiler, just the major ones. No, we don't need a spoiler warning because an article mentions that Ash sees through Team Rocket's disquise for the three-hundreth time, but if the article mentions that Latios dies, I think that REALLY needs a warning, don't you? Taromon777 10:21, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
We don't need it most of the time but some of the bigger stuff (the few deaths, MD2's plot twist) could do with a warning. --FabuVinny |Talk Page| 17:57, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
OK, so should I add one to Latios's article? I'm just worried I might start an edit war if someone removes it again. Taromon777 18:18, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
Eeeer Spoiler warnings should be given in each new section that relates to plot details of movies, past or upcoming, and only movies. Episodes shouldn't have spoiler warnings except in the article itself. Only specific characters that appear in the movies should have spoiler warnings as they relate to the character's role in that movie and potentially release information that some people do not want to see. For Example, characters like Latios should have spoiler warnings unless it is about the Pokémon species in general. :3 PsychicKris 09:16, 4 November 2009 (UTC)


Can someone tell me on how to include VS in the middle of 2 gym leaders,add winner at the end of two gym leaders and move the whole thing to the left? This is the thing:

10th Pokémon League
Generations II and IV

Kingofun 03:17, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

What, you mean something like this? With two different ways of doing it.
10th Pokémon League
Generations II and IV

Luna Tiger * the Arc Toraph 02:20, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
That reminds me of the gym leader comp in pokespe. Lunick v sonela 19:06, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
That's because it is. TheChrisD RantsEdits 13:18, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

Can anyone?

Tell me the link for Pokemon Heartgold and soulsilver on "Red" I want to see what his pokemon are. DialgaPrimeX 21:21, 13 September 2009 (UTC)DialgaPrimeX

The information isn't actually up yet, but it's the same as Generation II but with Lapras instead of Espeon. —darklordtrom 21:23, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

ok Thanks DialgaPrimeX 21:24, 13 September 2009 (UTC)DialgaPrimeX is the link, just in case you still needed it - Samjohn95 22:07 20 September

Standard Pokémon Images

I brought up this topic on the Project Pokédex discussion, but I didn't get any replies, so I though I'd bring it here instead. This is just a suggestion... do you think it would be better not to use the Emerald and Platinum artwork on the Hoenn and Sinnoh starters' pages? I've noticed that on the official online Pokédexes, as well as recent official books, their RS and DP artwork is still used, and appears to be their "standard" artwork. I know they are the more recent, but Ken Sugimori's Emerald and Platinum illustrations are simply promotional art for those games, and are not considered "standard" by Nintendo. What I'm trying to say is, if Bulbapedia were an official Pokémon site overseen by Nintendo, the Emerald and Platinum artwork wouldn't be used in the main articles, they would use the RS and DP art instead. Does anyone agree with me? Sorry if I made this sound confusing, I didn't really know how else to put it! Taromon777 09:54, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

I get what you're saying, but I disagree. We use the latest Sugimori artwork. It is official artwork, even if for consistency Nintendo uses the RS and DP artwork. --electAbuzzzz 10:05, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

New Routes?

Why aren't there articles for Routes 47 and 48 yet? Shall I create them? Taromon777 16:43, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, feel free to create them. People probably just haven't got around to it yet or haven't got that far. Solar Dragon 17:10, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
Actually it is protected from creation. Turtwig A Contributions Talk 22:27, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
All we know is that they have some trainers and a few other things. Not much to go by right now. R.A. Hunter Blade 05:49, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
I went back to my roots and took care of making both at least to par. More details will be added when we get them of course. TTEchidna 06:41, 18 September 2009 (UTC) has screenshots of the new routes. Do you think they would let us use them on Bulbapedia if we asked nicely? --Taromon777 17:02, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

Serebii gets grumpy when we take his images, so probably not. –MasterKenobi 17:06, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
We'll get our own ASAP. Juuuust gotta find the, ahem, thing to do so. TTEchidna 10:22, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Color change

I think we'll keep the GS styling until October 15. TTEchidna 09:57, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

What's so significant about the 15th? --Taromon777 21:17, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
It's a day after the anime premiered. In the US, that is. The Dark Fiddler - You enter a poorly lit room... 22:08, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
And by anime in the US I meant Johto Journeys and in Japan AND America. Probably completely different from TTE's reason though. The Dark Fiddler - You enter a poorly lit room... 22:10, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
Nope. Day GS came out. TTEchidna 13:06, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
Oh! That's logical. --Taromon777 21:38, 30 September 2009 (UTC)


Why isn't there a page for the summary pages? Or if there is, where is it? Thermorules123 18:14, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

Subsection of menu article: Menu#Pokémon. —darklordtrom 01:28, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

PokéPark Wii: Pikachu's Great Adventure Serebii reported that the new Wii game will apparently been called PokéPark Wii: Pikachu's Great Adventure!--ポケモン恋人(会話) 08:35, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

They also said that they are not 100% sure. I hope this isn't the game though... We don't need another dumb mini game. --ケンジガール 08:38, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
So it's most likely a WiiWare game?--ポケモン恋人(会話) 08:43, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
It is for certain a full Wii game to be sold for 4800 yen.--Mew a.k.a. Immewnity was here at 13:33, 9 October 2009 (UTC)


Could this be useful?--Mew a.k.a. Immewnity was here at 13:35, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

What do you think it could be used for? we already got an image like that one.--ForceFire 13:54, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
The ugly-looking stub template... tc²₆tc26 13:56, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
We have one like this? 800px?--Mew a.k.a. Immewnity was here at 14:23, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
Bulbapedia logo.png
Though not in 800px.--ForceFire 14:31, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
That's the full logo w/ text. This is just bulby.--Mew a.k.a. Immewnity was here at 15:29, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
If you had a problem with the stub template, you should have bitched about it then instead of now. Everyone else likes it because everyone else contributed in making it. MaverickNate 19:05, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

Creating Userspace Tabs

Is it possible to create user: tabs? If so, how? Tandra88 02:15, 10 October 2009 (UTC)tandra88

You mean a tab like at the top of the page? (article, discussion, edit?) It may be possible to make one with user .css coding, but it's a bit complicated, especially depending on what you want it for.
But what do you need one for? Are you asking how to make one for yourself, or suggesting a new tab for the wiki itself? -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 15:04, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
No, I mean the tabs that appear on your userpages.Tandra88 19:38, 10 October 2009 (UTC)tandra88
Perhaps you mean usertags. —darklordtrom 21:12, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

Game Screenshots

I was wondering where this site normally gets it's game screenshots from.Tandra88 21:24, 11 October 2009 (UTC)tandra88

We tend to take our own, thanks. TTEchidna 10:08, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

Heartgold Soulsilver pics

How come routes and cities still don't have new pics from HeartGold and SoulSilver up yet?- unsigned comment from KantoLegend (talkcontribs)

Probably because we haven't uploaded them yet.--Liquid ICE (User:Cold)(page, talk) 21:58, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
the game have been out for over a month now should someone have done it yet? --KantoLegend 22:04, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
We'd do it if we had them. Clearly, we don't. —darklordtrom 22:08, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
You act as if it's easy to get those maps. Camera hacks and about 300-400 screenshots need to be edited together to do them. TTEchidna 10:17, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
How do you make maps for DS games when the perspective of the 3D world changes every time you move? --Taromon777 09:53, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
Magic, of course. —darklordtrom 09:55, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
If the games didn't have maps, then the locations would simply not exist. Even though the graphics provide a more realistic perspective of the in-game world, the maps are still 2D. ;-) Pokemon lover 19:32, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
I never knew that! Well, you learn something new every day! --Taromon777 22:48, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
You're welcome. ;-) Well, I said that in a very summarized way; of course it is far more complicated than that. Pokemon lover 17:27, 1 November 2009 (UTC)


I saw the note on the main page about Lemonade being orange juice in Japanese. This is not the case; in fact it's a sweet milk drink. I have corrected the information on the Drinks page. See the talk page there for more info. Thorf 14:50, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

Unprotect the Pokémon pages

There's no need to protect the pages for the Pokémon species anymore since Studio Bebop shut down. --Shiny Noctowl 20:40, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

The staff know what we're doing. Hold your horses. You'll get your pages back soon enough. —darklordtrom 22:28, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
Besides, what if Studio Bebop is trying to continue their work underground? If we unlocked the pages now and it turns out Studio Bebop's not actually dead, then Studio Bebop could send someone to mess up our coding just to get their application back up and running, quite possibly someone who would sockpuppet to keep making their employer money. We'd best off wait until it can be undoubtely confirmed Studio Bebop has met its demise.
Actually, how can I be sure you're actually on Bulbapedia's side here? A request like this sounds quite possibly like something an insider working with Studio Bebop might ask for...--Shiningpikablu252 22:40, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
I've been wondering, why were all the pages protected in the first place? I mean, I know there were non-visible changes being made to them, but what exactly? From what's said here, it sounds to me like the pages were being edited specifically to sabotage that Pokedex app or something. Missingno. Master wants YOU! Join the Order of the Glitch! (my talk page) 23:29, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
If I revealed any more, I'd have to permablock you. --Shiningpikablu252 23:58, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
Pokémon pages will be unprotected mid-month. Maintenance work, you see. TTEchidna 05:34, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
Isn't Studio Bebob infeinging? Can't we sue the company or send a message to apple requesting its removal from the app store? -LugiaRocks (TalkEdits) 05:40, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
A lot of talking has been done behind closed doors. It isn't too much of an issue now. We've already taken into consideration what you have suggested.--RexRacer 17:37, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

And now it looks like Studio Bebop now has their website back up, the way it was when it went down, proving they're probably not dead after all. --Shiningpikablu252 02:15, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

I think we should either let them use it, or make a compromise to make it work. Maybe they give some of the money made from that app to Bulbapedia since the people using the app cant click on ads and get us money. Blake Talk·Edits
But Bulbapedia is non-profitable, and it is not fair to for them to get money because it is the editors work they are using.--Clarky13 14:12, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Downtime from November 5th

Will I still be able to view Bulbapedia during this time even if I can't edit? --Taromon777 10:20, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Yes, you will. —darklordtrom 10:23, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
So its not really downtime, its just being closed. Blake Talk·Edits 14:03, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
How about Archives and News? Will they be closed as well?
What about BMGf? It seems I can't read any thread, open my PM page or visit anybody's profile page (I get a database error), is this related? UltimateSephiroth (about me · chat · edits) 17:16, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
Archives shouldn't matter for you, you're an admin there! =] I'm sure if you want to do stuff there, like delete/move any unused episode/movie screenshots, no one would mind. That sort of stuff is considered maintinence as well. ;) MaverickNate 17:21, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, I only asked because I was unsure if it concerns all wikis (regardless of if it concerns me in that wiki). But, I think there is something seriously wrong with the servers ATM. Along with the forums being broken for the most parts, I get this when I try to open my watchlist at Archives: (watchlist at BP works well) UltimateSephiroth (about me · chat · edits) 17:49, 2 November 2009
You're not the only one. It's been like that all day. R.A. Hunter Blade 18:02, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
these server issues are unrelated and just a (bad) coincidence. -- MAGNEDETH 19:08, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Links to Wikipedia articles

A few Species articles have been made recently on Wikipedia. This is the final tally. Some are already linked, such as MissingNo. and Pikachu. Since the articles are locked, can an admin link these? MissingNo. · Charizard · Pikachu · Jigglypuff · Abra, Kadabra, and Alakazam · Koffing and Weezing · Mr. Mime · Jynx · Mewtwo · Mew · Unown · Rayquaza · Lucario Blake Talk·Edits 14:03, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

We don't link Wikipedia. R.A. Hunter Blade 14:38, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
I know you're very enthusiastic about having recreated so many Pokémon articles on Wikipedia, Blake - but why should the BP link to them when the articles here are superior? TheChrisD RantsEdits 14:45, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
The links were already on the articles for Missingno and Pikachu(and maybe a few others, I diddnt notice). I am not proposing you link them. I figured it was in the Manual of Style to link them. Also, Bulbapedia articles arent Superior. Wikipedia has information Bulbapedia doesnt. Blake Talk·Edits 01:01, 3 November 2009 (UTC)


I have noticed for a while that there has been lots of adverts around the perimeter of articles etc on bulbapedia, i was just curious why theyre there?--MỸŠŦЄЯỸЊӘҒҒ TALK 01:41, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

The ads are there for people who dont have accounts. We have to get money for the servers from somewhere. When you are logged in they should go away though. Blake Talk·Edits 01:50, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
Okay, thats understandable. I hadn't checked for the adds after i signed in, but now I've noticed they're gone. Thanks.--MỸŠŦЄЯỸЊӘҒҒ TALK 01:56, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
When I was signed it I saw a six pack add.... -LugiaRocks (TalkEdits) 02:01, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
There's a bad ad reporting thread on the forums. If you see something inappropriate, click on the link in the sidebar and away you go. —darklordtrom 02:19, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
Whilst logged out, "get ripped in 4 weeks" was in Bulbasaur's article. Is that really appropriate in what is essentially a children's site? --Taromon777 11:34, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
The Bad ad reporting thread is for that stuff as trom said before. it is even the example used of the list of link templates page :D--D i o n 2 4 11:44, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
Do I need to make a seperate account to use this forum? I tried logging in with my Bulbapedia username and password and it didn't work. --Taromon777 13:34, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
Yes, the wiki and forums are completely different things. It would be almost impossible to link them together like that. Blake Talk·Edits 13:53, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

Kana Names

Hiya, I was just looking at a few articles and noticed that the names of several characters as they appear in japanese have not be translated properly into romaji, or japlish. For example, the article for the character Sir Aaron ( ) Had the name translated into "Arlon", which is incorrect. アーロン translates directly into Aaron as the " - " is used as a prolonged sound mark and since the first character is A the proper translation is Aaron.

We need to completely revise every single article to that the kana (katakana or hiragana) is written first as a direct translation, and in brackets, the pronunciation/What it is with english spelling. For Example;

  • アーロン Aaron (Aaron)
  • ジラルダン Jirarudan (Geraldan/ Gelardan)

Those are just two examples that relate to human characters alone, I dont not know the full extent of this error throughout the Pokémon but im sure it's quite a few.

P.S. the use of macrons isn't exactly part of japanese speech so I dont really approve of that o.o not that it really matters, I just think it is better to not use macrons for katakana and not just Hiragana. PsychicKris 09:09, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

So basically you are saying to take all of our official romanizations and change them into Engrish. Yeah, I don't think so.. Arlon is the official romaji for アーロン. It can be seen on various Japanese merchandise printed as "Arlon" in romaji. Know that ロ doesn't strictly mean "ro". It can also be used for "lo" since there isn't any Japanese characters espcially made for "l" sounds. Also, アー doesn't always mean "Aa". Extended "a" sounds are frequently used to pronounce as a long "r" sound such as "Ar".
I suggest you do your research in how romanization works first before you tell us that a huge overhaul is needed. We are not changing Blacky to "Burakki" or Nyarth to "Nyaasu". We don't work like that. --ケンジガール 10:15, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

Pokemon Sugi images

I think alot of the images we have are too small. I dont know why. I just came across a webpage with very nice quality images. Maybe we could replace some of them? here is the webpage. Some I was considering to replace was for example Zubat. It's current image is wayy too small, and should be replaced with this. Thoughts? Blake Talk·Edits 21:55, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

They're fine. And we aren't going to steal any pictures from another site. R.A. Hunter Blade 22:28, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
Did you even bother to visit the page? It says that they can be used freely, just don't hotlink to them (=use the Archives). If you ask me, replacing lowres pics from Archives is always okay. UltimateSephiroth (about me · chat · edits) 22:52, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
Since the site does say that anyone can take them as long as they aren't direct-linked (which we don't do anyways) I don't see why we couldn't use them. ZestyCactus 22:54, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
I thinbk they're really good, we should use them! Except a couple of the Gen IV ones come up as "X"s on my computer. Taromon 10:30, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
Now that I can reply.... I did go to the site, but I probably scrolled down right away. Most of the page wouldn't even load for me. But still. The size of the Zubat pic we have is fine. R.A. Hunter Blade 13:35, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
And the website mentioned is MY website. Yes, you can use the Sugimori images. Only 1 drawback. The new HG/SS artwork, even if it has transparancy, still has white marks arond the image, as if it have been a .JPG before...I don't know why, though. TokoyamiTheDark 09:30, 26 November 2009 (UTC)


I've just noticed I can edit again! Is the maintenence finished already? Taromon 10:31, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

Yeah. As notified in the Message from the Editor on the Main Page. And in the forums. --electAbuzzzz 10:36, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
Wow, that was quick! Taromon 13:06, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

Overworld HGSS Sprites?

Would it be a good idea for someone to get "partner pokémon" overworld sprites for each pokémon article? I just thought it would be a nice addition. From Samjohn95 14:41, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Not a bad idea. Of course, most of the sysops have already just undertaken a huge task; they were slaving over a hot stove cookin' dolphin, getting no appreciation! We deserve a few days of rest...--Shiningpikablu252 16:31, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
You'd get plenty of appreciation from me if I new what any of that means! Thank you for your thoughts. From Samjohn95 20:32, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
They've been ripped, we just haven't uploaded them yet because we haven't devised a system for doing so. We need to redesign the sprite box, among other things, as well, to show this. - unsigned comment from TTEchidna (talkcontribs)
Sounds like a big task. But if and when you do it, best of luck from me. Thanks! from Samjohn95 21:13, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Pokemon Movie 2010

Official site. Is there any reason an article for this movie doesnt exist yet? Blake Talk·Edits 04:02, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

There was an article for it, called "Pikachu Project 2010", but it got deleted for some reason. Maybe it was because we didn't know enough about it and the article would have just been full of rumours and speculation. Although I think we know enough about it to recreate the article now! Perhaps an administrator should deal with that though. Taromon 16:05, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
There is an article on wikipedia about it, but it is about to be deleted due to having almost no information on it. Basically we know the year, developer, location, and that it has something to do with Lugia and Ho-Oh. Its ok if the article doesn't get made, its just someone had to ask eventually. Blake Talk·Edits 17:00, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
It was deleted because somebody made it when all we knew is that it had Lugia and Ho-Oh in it. TTE protected it for what should be obvious reasons. So. As usual, just wait for it to be OK'd by an admin, and don't go and ask for them to start it any time soon. It's not really that important right now, seeing as how Arceus and the Jewel of Life hasn't even premiered in English yet. R.A. Hunter Blade 21:41, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
*cough* Australia *cough* —darklordtrom 21:43, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
Eh. True. But still. We don't need the page yet. R.A. Hunter Blade 02:47, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
I think there should still be an article about it. It could just contain the few details that we know, and be protected so people can't put in rumours and stuff. Taromon 19:23, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

Pokemon Bubbles

I've noticed that on many pages (especially small ones with infoboxes) there are parts where the pokemon descriptions overlap with other stuff. For example, Cissy. I want to put in a spacer in those pages for those pages but in the eyes of some people it creates too large of a gap. What do you presume we do? BrokenMotor 03:09, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

What browser are you using? I see no overlaps with Cissy on Firefox or IE. —darklordtrom 05:57, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
I've checked Opera and there seem to be no problem.--ForceFire 07:15, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

I checked on Internet Explorer; I see what you mean. It says "Here is a list of Cissy's known Pokémon in the anime" and then there is a massive blank space before her list of Pokémon. It happens because the infobox gets in the way. This is just the way Bulbapedia is designed so I don't think anything can really be done about it. Unless her Pokémon boxes are made narrower, and I don't know how to do that! Taromon 11:27, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

I see what you mean, it should look better now.--ForceFire 11:43, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
Ah, that's much better! Thanks for sorting it out! Taromon 13:08, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Whoa, whoa, whoa!

Didn't know where I should put this, since it applied to a number of pages. I noticed that some Pokémon have been getting their Pokédex entries updated for HeartGold and SoulSilver just by duplicating the Gold and Silver version dex entries. Now, I understand that the Japanese entries may be the same, and that the English versions are likely to follow, but it's not unheard of for Nintendo to restructure the grammar or phrasing of the entry to better suit a modern game. Shouldn't there be something in the entries noting that these are unofficial translations, and liable to change? --AndyPKMN 12:44, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

I think these should just be removed. Even if you do translate them, it will most likely be off. And they might change it for English anyways. I say just dummy the field. That way you wont have to edit all 493 pages. Blake Talk·Edits 13:53, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
I don't see what the problem is with translating and writing in what the Japanese says it is. First of all, everyone that is helping is fully aware (or at least should be) that they will be completely removed and replaced once the English versions come out. The point is to at least convey what it says so that people have an idea if they are interested enough to read it. I think as long as people are willing to help out, it's better to have it filled in than it is to just say 'Unknown' or something along those lines. As far as Generation I and II goes, they are fine without the Japanese with scroll-over English because they are "official" translations of the same exact text. Again, if it gets changed for the actual releases, then we would be replacing it anyways, so there should be absolutely no problem. (Yaminokame 14:07, 18 November 2009 (UTC))

You can see English Pokédex entries in HGSS by trading an English Pokémon over to HGSS... -Sketch 14:21, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

Those are not the translated HGSS entries, but the English entries from DPPt. Thus, I have been removing them as I've seen them added to pages. 梅子 14:24, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

I didn't know where to put this so here I go

Can I make a page on the webcomic Pokémon X? I mean it's funny and all and has more pages then Super Effective (webcomic) and it's been around for longer. Link: So um, is it worthy of its own article? Lunick v sonela 20:54, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

I'd say as long as it is to the point and doesn't turn into how it turned out when Recon Dye himself made a page on Wikipedia about it... TheChrisD RantsEdits 20:40, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
Don't forget the é. —darklordtrom 21:31, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
Don't worry, I redirected it.--Smartkidhen 21:35, 20 November 2009 (UTC)


Would it be worth creating an article about the Pokémon annuals? It could have a list of all of them and pictures of the front covers etc. Taromon 17:43, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Never heard of them, but I know what they'll be like. Give it a shot. —darklordtrom 10:14, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
OK, I don't actually have all the annuals but I can add in the details of the ones I have. I have all of them from 2003 onwards. What should the article be called? "Pokémon Annuals"? Taromon 22:34, 27 November 2009 (UTC)


a question about this place in General. Is Bulbapedia run by wikia?--Darknesslover5000 05:22, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Hahahaha no. 梅子 05:30, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
NO!--RexRacer 05:31, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
what is it run by then? I mean it looks like a Wiki in all respects.--Darknesslover5000 07:10, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
Just because it is a wiki doesn't mean it's in any way affiliated with the Wikimedia Foundation or Wikia. You can get a wiki and install it without being run by them. Bulbapedia, Bulbanews, Bulbagarden Archives, and RPGwiki are all part of Bulbagarden. TTEchidna 07:32, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
um...can u tell me how to get a wiki that isn't run by wikia?--Darknesslover5000 23:13, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
Wikia is a free wiki site. To get a wiki like this, you have to download the WikiMedia stuff on your computer or server that will hold all the files and everything for your wiki. Its free, but you have to provide the server and domain. Blake Talk·Edits 17:34, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
MediaWiki is the program. Wikimedia is the organization that owns Wikipedia (as its not-for-profit portion) and Wikia (as its for-profit potion). If you wanna know more about the program, though, head on over to the website. TTEchidna 19:04, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
Actually, Wikimedia is completely unaffiliated with Wikia. The Wikimedia foundation is a charitable organization which runs several wikis including Wikipedia and Wiktionary, and Wikia is a for-profit wiki farm. No connection whatsoever other than that they were both founded by Jimbo Wales. --Yair rand 07:17, 3 December 2009 (UTC)


Hi, I'm currently working on a new article, "Pokémon annual". Does anyone know where I can get pictures of the front covers of the annuals? Would it be OK to take them from photobucket or something similar? I don't have a scanner so I can't scan my own copies of the books. Taromon 11:57, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Some covers can still be found on Amazon UK ( I think the images can be used as long as they don't have a site logo pasted on them. Mefredbob 18:50, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
They have pictures of all the annuals from 2006 onwards. I've uploaded them to the Archives. I also uploaded some pictures from other pages, but they have white gaps at the top and bottom. I uploaded a new version without the gaps but it stretched the image. Do you know why it did that? Taromon 12:55, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
Clear the cache (ctrl+shift+R). It takes a short while for the image to be completely viewable when you upload a newer version of the file. Kevzo8 13:21, 1 December 2009 (UTC)


It seems like the Pokemon Twitter account has been hacked. T.T --ポケモン恋人(離す)(貢献) 20:48, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

It was fake to begin with. 梅子 20:49, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
But it seemed so real. T_T --ポケモン恋人(離す)(貢献) 21:24, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
This isn't the place to discuss this, go vent at the forums if you must. —darklordtrom 21:26, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

Admin Nominations

Why are the Admin Nominations closed right now? When will they be back open?--Smartkidhen 17:50, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

Not in the forseeable future. The admin nomination system was an idea that proved to be... problometic. True, several of our admins and even EB members received their powers thanks to it, but also a lot of pointless nominations were made by users who didn't really think things through. At the moment, we don't have a pressing need for more staff members. --electAbuzzzz 18:17, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

Can Anyone Help?

I want to make something like a personal sandbox like other people but i don't know how. What do you do? Make a page called User:Manaphy1/Sandbox or something? Help! --Manaphy1 19:16, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

Yep, that's pretty much it. Just go to your userpage, add "/Sandbox" to the end of the URL in the URL box and hit enter. Then, create the page. Just remember the userspace policy~ - Kogoro | Talk to me - 19:27, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
Ok. Thanks for the help. --Manaphy1 20:09, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

Get Firefox (or other browser) buttons

I think we should put buttons like the following on Bulbapedia in order to spread Firefox or, at least, any other major browser except IE:


It should also look more "Pokémonish". For example, we could put a Pikachu in Foxkeh's place and replace its background with a Pokémon-related one, thus making the button more fitting for the 'Pedia. The only problem for me is that I'm not capable of editing pics at the moment. If anyone would like to do it, then feel free to do so and present your works. ;-) But remember that the trademarks must be preserved to remain legal. More info about that here. Pokemon lover 17:42, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

Why should Internet Explorer not be spread? Also, why should Bulbagarden get browser buttons? It doesn't really matter what browser is being used. Turtwig A (talk | contribs) 17:47, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
Because IE does not respect web standards properly even in its latest version and there are still many people on IE6, despite the progressive decreasing of its usage. It's not a case of exclusive notability to Bulbapedia or Bulbagarden as a whole; it is instead a matter of importance to the web in general. Pokemon lover 17:59, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
Sounds like spam. Spam is bad. Duh.--Smartkidhen 18:02, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
It is not spam in any way. And buttons or banners don't force anyone to change. On the contrary, it might get people's attention to try a different browser, thus making them not use IE partially or totally by their will and not by forced change. ;-) Pokemon lover 18:03, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
Think about how the site's set up as it is. The site pretty much relies on Firefox for the majority of its interface (like the roundycorners, aniPNGs, and so on). It's just better to use it for this particular site, though downloading FF or not is all up to the user. It's not spam. >_> ▫▪Ťïňắ 18:11, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
I think this is a good idea - Bulbapedia really does look awful on IE (when you know what BP is supposed to look like, at least), and the site certainly does rely on FF. And I'd be willing to make a button for the cause. :3 梅子 18:14, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
Maybe it should not say "Download Firefox". It should say something like "Firefox recommended to view site properly" or something like that. - Vhayes1992 18:16, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
Besides, we don't want to make it look like Bulbapedia is outright playing favorites with any certain browser. Including a button that blatantly makes it appear that we're playing favorites with Firefox and make it look like Firefox is required to even view most of the site would give us a bad reputation amongst the Internet community. I, for one, don't plan to switch away from Internet Explorer anytime soon, especially to something as sucky and non-standards-compliant as Firefox. If we do include browser buttons like that, we should include browser buttons for multiple browsers, and yes, that would include one for Internet Explorer 8. --Shiningpikablu252 18:25, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
It doesn't really matter what browser is used, so I don't think there should be browser buttons. Turtwig A (talk | contribs) 18:27, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
I am not touching your implication that IE is standards compliant with a ten-foot pole, but you do realize what the "moz" in "-moz-border-radius" stands for, right? 梅子 18:30, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
It stands for mozilla, the company that manages Firefox right? But anyways, this is starting to become forums content, so I think it should be moved to the forums. Turtwig A (talk | contribs) 18:35, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
(reset) Yeah, this is indeed all better fit for the forums any way one looks at it. --Shiningpikablu252 19:06, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

Distorted images

I've noticed that a lot of Ken Sugimori's Pokémon artwork is being replaced with larger, higher quality versions. While this is a good idea, the "shrunk" versions of these images on the Pokémon species articles look horribly pixelated and distorted. Is this normal or is it something to do with my computer? Taromon 13:55, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Someone else asked the same question, about different pictures that were also being updated here, so I hope this helps you. --Smartkidhen 23:49, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
Wow, that's a long discussion! Thanks! Taromon 12:34, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

Google Translate

I'm going to make an account on the french bulbapedia and make some wanted articles by using google translate. Help would be much apprieciated. SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch 15:29, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Um.... while help is good, I certainly wouldn't want articles written by google translate on my encyclopedia. I believe the French editors would likely feel the same. —darklordtrom 01:38, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
And, uh, you certainly aren't thinking of translating our articles into French, you were gonna write them yourself, right?--RexRacer 01:45, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
There is no French Bulbapedia. Poképedia is its own wiki, not part of bulbagarden. Turtwig A (talk | contribs) 01:51, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
they are part of Encyclopaediae Pokémonis. they are partners of ours. also, no, never trust Google translate for anything. -- MAGNEDETH 01:59, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
I wouldn't trust a translator, it might mess up all the grammar. However, it would be a good incentive to learn French! Taromon 15:18, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
Although there are times I rev up Babelfish, another online translation service, never do I use machine translations as a primary source for translation. If I ever rev up Babelfish for anything wiki-related, it's usually trying to figure out just how inter-wiki links should go on wikis where the interwiki bots do nothing (that is, the French, Polish, and Portuguese ends, as well as the Spanish end which doesn't even have a dedicated interwiki bot). --Shiningpikablu252 17:58, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
google translate has always been OK for me... but i've only made one article, so thats ok, i'll stop. SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch 16:43, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
If you absolutely need a translation, I recommend to use Google Translate only from translating other languages into English. From there, you can fix any grammar errors and other things. What I don't recommend is using Google translate as a PRIMARY source of translations. - Vhayes1992 17:21, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

Maybe it's just chrome...

But the Bulbapedia Logo is not the bulbapedia logo. It's a picture of a man dressed as a fairy.

Could just be my computer, but I'll upload screenshots if no one else sees it.User:DCM 15:02, 18 January 2010 (UTC)