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So featured articles...

Well, our current one's been up for more than a week, so I'm wondering...

1. Ought we get a new one (aka, oh... Ash?) out there?
2. Should we have some sort of regular schedule to the featuring?
3. Will you guys ever nominate and vote on them quickly enough to feature them weekly? Monthly? Bi-monthly? How often?
4. And if not... well, when should we go back to the normal MftE? TTEchidna 04:51, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

I think if it's simple enough to nominate articles, then we could see more use from this. I had to dig a bit through the links to find the other nominations... would a simple "Nominate an article" link next to the "read more" and "more featured articles" links be a good idea, perhaps? We could have an article with not only a list of nominations, but some simple instructions for how to nominate. Make it more accessible. We've got plenty of articles to nominate, not enough people looking for them.

At this rate, a once-a-month nomination might work out nicely. With more activity, I'd say nominating faster then that would be nice. I personally think having featured articles is a fun thing, MftE makes for a good news feed, but that's about it. Featured articles give the front page more... appeal. -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 08:35, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

I completely agree. Monthly featuring would work great, and it makes the main page look much better. And if on one of the months we don't have a new one, we can use Poké Ball or Legendary Pokémon, since they never made it to the main page, right? And there are already many good nominees. --electAbuzzzz ^(TALK) 08:57, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

So we choose the next on the 21st? TTEchidna 23:44, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

We can choose the next one whenever, I'd say. Then start up a cycle starting there. It's not a big deal if Brock gets featured for a little longer or shorter then the other featured articles we'll inevitably have. -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 06:08, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Or, either just wait until one comes again, and base a cycle on that time, or leave it up for a month, then take it down, and post a new one whenever a new one comes. Theininen 18:50, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

So, ummm... It's been a month. New article, anyone?...? --electAbuzzzz 19:38, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Hopefully the admins will get around to it when the buzz about Platinum dies down. Granted, in a perfect world there would be at least a couple assigned to all of the normal admin tasks, but ah well. --TMF ^{Let's Go Mets - Stats} 22:44, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Move updating

We shouldn't count Struggle, Super Glitch, Secret Power (it doesn't need the template) and Vacuum-Cut as moves, so should we subtract 4 from that? However, we SHOULD count Wide Slash as a move, because in MD it's a TM. TorchicBlaziken 16:02, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

There are 467 moves minus Super Glitch, Vacuum-Cut, and Wide Slash. I went by the in-game DP number. Secret Power and Struggle... well, yeah. TTEchidna 19:00, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

The ads...

I don't like the way they work. The ads-well, just look at them! They make this site seem less trustable, and especially since it's like "REGISTER OR BE FORCED TO LOOK AT WEIRD ADS!!!!" I like that I don't have to look at them, now I'm a member, but I don't think that this site should be sponsored by cleavage revelations. TorchicBlaziken ^(talk) 23:14, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I was looking at my own talk without being logged on, and I had to keep above the ad at the bottom so my mom wouldn't see it. Theininen 01:37, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

You can report those sorts of ads on the forums... TTEchidna 06:52, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Featuring

Why has the featured article been about Brock all the time? - Hazardous FIRE! 05:51, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Because it never changed; this is the first one. We're not going to be changing them every day like Wikipedia is...I think the consensus is change it every month?--Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 05:53, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

The discussion's a few sections up on this page, and yep, seems to be about once-a-month. We don't really have a need to feature an article every day, besides, we'd run out of articles too quick if we did that. And featuring for a longer time gives the articles more "airtime". -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 16:02, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

RRRRGH!!!

Those new sprite tables are all wrong! Every time you click "show", the evolution chart sticks itself smack in the middle of it! NOT GOOD! I'm Missingno. Master, and I approve this message. 01:38, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Works perfectly fine for me. Mind giving a link to a page it doesn't work on, and listing what browser you use? Different browsers handle some codes differently, and it would be in our best interest to make sure Bulbapedia works on most of them. -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 06:15, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Me as well. I know you've got an affinity for glitches, but IE... TTEchidna 06:56, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Me too, I've noticed some pages work while some don't--Wowy 07:18, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

It works fine for me, but somebody else is having a problem. 23-03-33 made a post here, along with a screencap what exactly it's doing. --Martonimos_{((Argh|Blargh))} 23:26, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Grammar...

Umm...it's in the "Did You Know" is supposed to be its...I'm not sure how to edit that section, but in the future, can people check the grammar just in case? ht14 12:44, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

Serebii

Serebii.net has like bucket-fulls of new info about the rotom formes and other stuff, shouldnt this be added to the main page? --Hey1031 20:09, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

Platinum is out?

I thought that it was coming out on the 13th. But a bunch of videos are appearing on Youtube right now. Just look at them all.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4kPiOdfY7Y

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGVCgkQt6W0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mL0Oz7HBE70

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBGIQ7ZuuiU --Posted by Deadlymethane at 00:41, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, Apparently people are saying that internet celebs get it first to review it, but I really dont know what to believe any more, but in any case, some people out there have it now as I type this. --Hey1031 00:44, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

It's just a leaked ROM. This happened back when DP came out in English too, remember?--Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 04:53, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

How is that possible? You can clearly see that the videos are from DSs. Baby G (talk to me) (see my edits) 02:35, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

I just got ricl rolled by the last video XD--DCM_{((TalkContributions))}

It is either a leaked ROM, or one of the copys that some shops sold early. -Rabla 22:26, 13 September 2008

Pokemon Platinum Sprites

I found where all (almost) of the Pokemon Platinum sprites are. They are here: http://sfc.pokemon-inside.net/platinum.php [b]Evil Sonic....[/b] 02:29, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Some of them look fake to me. --ケンジのガール 02:40, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Yea like Chancey and Blissey--☆Coolピカチュウ! 02:48, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

No, those are them all right. Zhen sent me them and they are exactly those (minus the glitchy ones, which someone screwed up). TTEchidna 03:06, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Roselia's face looks weird. --ケンジのガール 23:09, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

If I have nightmares tonight, I know who to blame. What did they do to Raichu! they ruined my favorite Pokemon! NOOOOOOOO! --Mooites ^{Talk to me, baby!} 23:19, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Bring back Crystal.

As long as we're talking about sprites, I'm still not sure about the files we should be uploading. Are we going to animate everything, nothing, Platinum only, or what? --Martonimos_{((Argh|Blargh))} 23:48, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

My Pokemon Ranch and Platinum

It's been revealed on the Pokemon Ranch Japanese site that a Pokemon Platinum compatibility update will be available by the end of the year. Those that have the game already will be able to download the update for free when it's available.--☆Coolピカチュウ! 03:20, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Thank goodness. TTEchidna 03:40, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Yup know i don't have to buy Wii Points.--☆Coolピカチュウ! 03:41, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

IMPORTANT s' v s's posessive update

Go here [1]--KukiTalk 14:55, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

That's a celebrity blog. Blogs are prone to grammar errors, just as much as a wiki is. This blog can't be used as evidence in this debate. If you thought a celebrity blog could get us off our stance of keeping them at "James's", you're dead wrong.

The articles stay at the names they currently have. If we've rejected certain schoolbooks, there's no way we'd fall prey to a blog. --Shiningpikablu252 15:13, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

I thought this issue was already discussed. Besides, if we did change, do you realize how much of a massive undertaking that would be? We not only would have to alter all articles belonging to James, we'd have to fix up some templates (like {{op}}) and go through every article trying to determine if it's correct. --PAK Man ^Talk 15:22, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Excellent point. And in my opinion it's such a minute detail to have such a debate over it. Gligar 21:43, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Look, we know that s' is considered the proper. The problem is that it would mess up all the templates we have. Such as {{TP|James|Mime Jr.}}. The template won't work correctly if it's James' Mime Jr. instead. So will you stop bringing this up already? It's impossible to have it this way. We are not doing it to piss users off. --ケンジのガール 21:49, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Actually, no, the s' would be wrong. You put the apostrophe after the s only if it's a plural noun. If James was the plural form of Jame, then it would be appropriate, but since he's one guy, it's James's. --Martonimos_{((Argh|Blargh))} 22:05, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Everyone has disagreements on pluralizing singulars ending with "S". The only agreement seems to be Jesus and Moses use "s' " for whatever reason.--Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 22:08, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Cross was s'--KukiTalk 22:19, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

The s' is not the proper way, no more than not beginning a sentence with and. TTEchidna 22:21, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Kuki, some random blog using "s' " doesn't make it correct. Go bring us a document on the proper use of English to support your argument.--Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 22:28, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Technically sayin James' and James's means the same thing Dion24 23:38, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

...that's not the point.--Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 23:45, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Problem with Platinum-move-standardizing

Big problem: Say someone standardizes half of the learnsets in a move and forgets about it. It is put under Platinum standard and no one will know the other half is done. What do we do, manually check every move article? Gligar 21:40, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

It's up to the person editing to remember to complete it later. If they don't, we'll find it eventually, just like we do all mistakes in the articles, and can take care of it then. --Martonimos_{((Argh|Blargh))} 21:49, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

A surefire way to find articles with half-converted learnsets is to use this special page. The long-since deleted template that the page is checking for is embedded in old code from the old format, so any article that shows up on that special page has unconverted learnset sections. (I've already gone through and removed the aforementioned old code from all of the pages that have been fully converted.) --TMF ^{Let's Go Mets - Stats} 22:28, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Featured Article

I'm surprised this Wiki doesn't have a featured article. Shouldn't there be one? --☆X-Knight☆511♂ 05:44, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

There was a few days ago. Now there isn't. There will be again, as soon as the admins get around to it. Once the rush of edits with the Platinum release wears down, I'd guess. --Martonimos_{((Argh|Blargh))} 06:26, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

I see. Thank you for teh info. --☆X-Knight☆511♂ 06:31, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Can't create new page...

I want to create a page for Rui Quintas and Peter Michael, our (Portugal) two James, but the way I use to create pages don't work... I have two ways: one is searching for the page, and then click on the button that says to begin that certain page. Another way I use is when the name of the page I want to create is red in another page, so I click on it and then I create the page... However, this time, I can't create the page. Even if I put [[]] around their names, it redirects to the list of international voice actors. See for yourselves - Rui Quintas. And the same thing if I search. Is there any other way to create pages? Or can you please resolve this little unwanted redirect, please?Portuguese Old Man 18:53, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Just go to the top of the voice actors' page and you will see the blue link. Click on it and edit it. Jmath 19:00, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

It was already decided that these people are not notable enough for their own pages. That is why they are redirects. Not even all f the English voice actors are notable enough, so why shouldn't the international voice actors be the same? ^Moldy_Orange 19:06, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Ok, thanks^^Portuguese Old Man 19:14, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Userspace?

I did some searching, but I can't find anything on it. That said:

Is there a policy outlining what can and can't be done with the userspace? Seems that I can't redirect it to my talk page, how about using it as a reminder list for myself or just blanking the damn thing? -- BCJ 04:44, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Blanking it ought to be OK (it's your page, after all). You can also slap a {{delete}} tag on there and let an admin get rid of it altogether. I'd recommend customizing your signature in such a case so it links to your user talk page. --((Marton imos)) 04:46, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Works for me, thanks. -- BCJ 05:03, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

just want to throw in that i DON'T suggest deleting user pages, as it gives users the dreaded "red label" (user pages not written) and i have a tendency to scan those person's edits. -- MAGNEDETH 05:08, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

What? Really? Why? I mean, plenty of people around here just don't have userpages. One of our sysops, for example. --((Marton imos)) 07:34, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Personally, I don't think it's a problem to redirect to your own user talk page from your user page; it was just one time (that I know of) that the situation popped up, and the only reason anyone could think not to do it was because "nobody else does that". It's fairly normal on most other wikis, if someone doesn't actually have - or want - a userpage, but doesn't like a red link. -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 15:17, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

That's what I was thinking, but someone reverted my redirect saying that 'it should be like that'. -- BCJ(talk) 21:17, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

It's something that has never been cleared up; there's no current rule about it yet, so it may or may not be reverted depending on who sees it. I think perhaps it's time we made a simple userpage policy; we could fit just common-sense things on it (don't edit it too much, don't insult people, etc), and at least have something to point to when we do need to edit people's userpages. -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 19:36, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

And if you don't want the "dreaded red link," as you put it, just change your sig to be a different color (if you don't know and can't find color codes, see my talk for a couple of links and sigs for the setup), or simply put a generic greeting or contact info (i.e. e-mail, AIM, etc.) and it will be normal blue. Theininen 02:06, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Categories

On the bottom of episode pages there are categories for episodes, how do we create one? I looked and couldn't find out how.

----HoennMaster 21:56, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

[[Category:(whatever)]] at the bottom with the others. Then just make the category. TTEchidna 17:31, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

# of moves remaining

It's actually 36 + one userpage, to be exact. This is inaccurate because moves outside the DPPt 467 have been updated as well, such as Shadow moves or glitch moves. Gligar 00:44, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

They've been counted. TTEchidna 17:30, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Actually, it says 467, which only includes the DPPt ones on List of moves. Even then, this page would like to have a word with you. Various unstarted and unfinished ones on here. Gligar 20:11, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Woo, we're almost there. 2 almost-finished moves and 2 unstarted moves. Gligar I am not removing this lengthy addition to my signature until all moves have been updated to Platinum standard. 15:14, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

how come it says minus 3 now?

Ultamatecharizard 16:23, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Because if you put one of the templates used to update it automatically categorizes it, which affects the countdown. In truth, there's really only one move left. Gligar I am not removing this lengthy addition to my signature until all moves have been updated to Platinum standard. 16:59, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Platinum complete! Gligar 18:16, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Sweet. The "Message from the Editor" section of the Main Page should be updated to reflect this. --TMF ^{Let's Go Mets - Stats} 07:11, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Other pictures/Adds?

Subject A.) Okay, I was thinking, should we get pictures of 3D appearances and Ranch (normal and Shiny)?

Subject B.) Alright, when I'm on my Wii, I find adds, and some of them are absolutely offensive. I get some saying "how dumb are you? take our test to find out!" We absolutely need to remove these. All adds.Nintendofan146B 19:40, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Nuh uh. It's the other way around: Unless you have some other way to pay for the server costs, the ads have to stay. You can report offensive ads on the forums but I don't think dumbness tests qualify for that. --FabuVinny ^{|Talk Page|} 19:43, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

But still... some are a bit offensive.Nintendofan146B 23:37, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

And like Fabu-Vinny mentioned, you can report those on the forums; there's a thread for just that purpose. Particularly offensive ads can be blacklisted, so they won't show up again. -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 00:50, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

you could also just sign in, and they all go away. can you sign in on a Wii? -- MAGNEDETH 02:18, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

I've signed into things like Youtube on my Wii, so I think you can sign onto bulbapedia on it. --Hey1031 13:32, 28 September 2008 (UTC) I probably could, but on Mariowiki, which has the same set-up, makes it extremespeedly slow.Nintendofan146B 00:12, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Subject A: Probably not. We do not have 3D pictures for Colosseum and XD (even though they're already on the German PokéWiki, nor do we have 3D pictures for Battle Revolution. It would be a good thing to add 3D sprites for all 4 games if PokéWiki were competition to add sprites like such, but we're only competing against it with the select few German-speaking and English-speaking Pokémon fans. Gligar 18:21, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

On the subject of sprites, we're still missing (in Generation IV) few shiny Diamonds, a few Platinums, and most of the shiny Platinums. Generation III really needs sprites, as ones such as Lunatone have only Emerald. Generation II is pretty much done, save for some Crystal, and Gen I is finished. Oh, and a non-animated Manaphy Egg Minisprite is all I can think of. Gligar 18:21, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

If images weren't disabled, the project of adding these images in an easy-to-follow 80x80 format would be much easier. Gligar 18:21, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Due to the failure of a computer I'm right now I can't link to it, but the PokémonElite2000 Sprite Resourse has every sprite (I don't actually know about Platinums) including Shinies and Male/Female forms. Since it's a 'resource,' we are perfectly alowed to use them... LordArceus 02:13, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

User Profile Things

On user profile pages a lot of people have those icons that say like "this user plays this game" "this user's favorite pokemon is" and all sorts of things. Where do we get these!?

--KantoLegend 04:03, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

here. --electAbuzzzz 07:12, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

TR

I've seen many episode guides with "TR" instead of "Team Rocket". Don't you think it would be better if we had "Team Rocket" instead of "TR" in the episode guides? Portuguese Old Man 13:09, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Of course. Change it if it's there. TTEchidna 18:16, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Name changes

Is there a way to change your user name?

----HoennMaster 21:49, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Ask TTE later--RexRacer -talk 21:50, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Message from the Editor

Under this, "Read more" and "Past messages" both link to the exact same thing. Just sayin'. --ニョロトノ666 02:55, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Easy-To-Use and Correct 'é'

I'll venture a guess that plenty of people already know this, but the character code - this works on any text document - for 'é' is 130. So, hold Alt (if you have an Alt) and type a 1, a 3, and 0 then release Alt. Ta-dah! LordArceus 02:17, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

And if you're currently editing Bulbapedia, it's even easier. Just click on the é in the character palette. --FabuVinny ^{|Talk Page|} 20:31, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

In my case, it's also Alt + 0233, which is still just as easy. -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 21:40, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

In my case, I just hit Alt Gr + e. UK Keyboard layout. I can also scream POKÉMON! as a result, by holding shift. Alt Gr is just Alt+Ctrl on one key.. so Alt+Ctrl+e = é as well. Gywall^(Talk) 21:44, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

And 2178 works as well...KPF 21:44, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Is there?

Is there a tag for Democrats? as in {{User Democrat}}--DCM_{((Nag at Me!Edits))}

I don't believe so, I think it is just a Liberal tag. --HoennMaster 00:57, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Remember, guys. This page is for discussing Bulbapedia's MAIN PAGE only. Not general discussion about the wiki. --ニョロトノ666 01:00, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

I know, I'm just responding, it's not like anyone else wouldn't afterall. --HoennMaster 01:02, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Featured Articles

Umm...I just looked at the page, and we had 2 accepted a couple of days ago, why aren't they on the main page? Theininen 16:03, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Did you know...

...that the "Did you know" section of the Main Page hasn't been changed in over a month? SharKing 23:31, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

255

I'm far too lazy to do so myslef, but does anyone want to make an article about the various ways '255' was the highest number (value, really) that the old games could deal with? LordArceus 00:21, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

This one goes out to all you Senior & Veteran members out there

Perhaps we should focus more on User Relations. In the last 30 contributions, we swooped in on a BRAND NEW USER, warned him five times on a policy he is not familar on, deleted his pages before allowing him time to save them elsewhere, and while im currently typing this, im sure someone is attacking him right now. Perhaps we should be more welcoming to the new users and contributors, whom Im sure have good things to add to the site just as much as the rest of us--DCM_{((Nag at Me!Edits))}

maybe that new user should read the welcome message and MoS before they make such a number of poor edits and abuse the userspace. this way, we wont need to yell at them. -- MAGNEDETH 01:44, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

And understand it all? Right--DCM_{((Nag at Me!Edits))}

I don't know if you want my 2 cents, but I agree with DCM. Often, new contributors need time to get used to the laws of the 'Pedia. I should know-- a few months ago, I made a number of errors. SharKing Talk 01:55, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

and thats fine. users make mistakes, and we certainly dont expect new users to be top contributors right away, but it is stressed that new users should read the Manual of Style before making any edits. -- MAGNEDETH 02:04, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

I completely agree with DCM. Perhaps some of you guys ought to get off your high horses, jump wikis and read a fundamental Wikipedia policy. I guarantee it'll make this 'pedia a much nicer place to work. -- THE TROM 09:03, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Rule 33: Lurk moar. Always the rule. Internet users just need to start getting it like the rest of us. However, jumping on a noob isn't the best thing...

Either way, the reason why we made the welcome was so that we didn't have to jump on people whose first stop wasn't the MOS. TTEchidna 09:17, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

How many n00bs are going to stop and read a wall of text? For that is essentially what it is. Wouldn't it be better to make more concise welcome message, with links to pages that extend on the policies? Glinn Mgraw 09:20, 10 November 2008 (UTC)