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Congrats Bulbapedia

http://www.quantcast.com/bulbapedia.com

Congrats on all of the hits. I'm only confused on the gender demographic.GJ 01:35, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

You do realize that's an Advertisement right? --Force Fire 01:19, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

I don't know whether Quantcast screwed up, or whether they're actually referring to a separate site. See, http://www.bulbapedia.com isn't affiliated with Bulbagarden or this wiki, to my knowledge. We're a different web address. So, either Quantcast's research does reflect our site and they just assumed our suffix was .com, or those stats actually have nothing to do with this wiki. --ニョロトノ666 01:40, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Actually, bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net is listed in the "similar audience" column to the right. I guess people go to bulbapedia.com when they hear about the site but not the URL. Anyway, we're doing even better than bulbapedia.com. --Martonimos_((Talk)) 01:54, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

wow, i didnt know that many of you guys were asain... -- MAGNEDETH 03:09, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

I wonder, can Quantcast tell the difference between Asians and wannabe-Asians? A good number of users here use Japanese or Japanese-inspired names... my name's Japanese-inspired, and I'm born in NYC. -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 03:16, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

I'm vietnamese, that's asian, but I was born in LA, the state~Pokemaniac102 03:20, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the correct info. There is still more girls though. I thought girls didn't exist on the Internet. - unsigned comment from GJPal (talk • contribs)

they dont. its just lots of boys using their mothers computer. -- MAGNEDETH 04:40, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Or as World of Warcraft has shown us, its just guys pretending they are girls....[[User:Oak-leaf Knight]] 04:42, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Does that mean Tina? PachirisuLover12? Pie? Zhen Lin? no, he is a boy~Pokemaniac102 04:43, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

they could be. we dont know. thats the magic of the internet. -- MAGNEDETH 04:46, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

You said it, not me...[[User:Oak-leaf Knight]] 04:45, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Begs the question on why guys would want to act as girls.

...On second thougts, don't answer that. Glinn Mgraw 05:27, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Errrr, I don't know. They want to be gay? It's the Θρtιmαtum♏^Talk|Links09:30 4 Jun 2008

I'm a G.i.r.l. too! (Guy In Real Life) -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 10:21, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

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Well done, Bulbapedia. You have crawled your way up into the ranks where when people search for Pikachu, they get our page on Pikachu. Well done indeed...It's the Θρtιmαtum♏^Talk|Links11:24 17 Jun 2008

Right behind Wikipedia's article on Pikachu, of course. :D -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 11:35, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

We're ahead for every other Pokaman. Proves how hard our contributors have been working. It's the Θρtιmαtum♏^Talk|Links12:54 17 Jun 2008

Who Misspelled Categorized and Categorizing?

Fix the spelling. - unsigned comment from AaronV28 (talk • contribs)

Typical human response. It's American English, not British. It's the Θρtιmαtum♏^Talk|Links07:24 2 Jun 2008

American English would have the "z" in catergorizing. Since we use American English, it should be changed. ^Moldy_Orange 12:13, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

It has been stated not to change from one to the other for the sheer sake of it. Either can be used, but American English is preferred. Glinn Mgraw 12:33, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Wait, where is it misspelled anyway? TTEchidna 22:53, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

I changed it. It should be the last one in the history. That's why Glinn yelled abut changing it. ^Moldy_Orange 22:59, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Yelling GENERALLY USES CAPS LOCK LIKE THIS to emphasise its point. Glinn Mgraw 08:02, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

I used yelled as a generic term. Would you rather I have said talked matter-of-factly? ^Moldy_Orange 14:51, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Collapsible Navboxes

can bulbapedia do collapsible boxes, and if so, how? OrigamiGuy-Talk-Contribs-Mudkipz 21:14, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

We can, yes, we just haven't yet because we're against pretty much just jacking everyone's code. We likely will soon enough. TTEchidna 22:51, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

But wikipedia and bulbapedia both run on mediawiki, so everything that works on one will work on the other, so why the big 'stealing other wikis code is not nice' thing? OrigamiGuy-Talk-Contribs-Mudkipz 23:02, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Depending on the .js or .css coding we use, there's a few that are out there specifically to be used by anyone, so they're safe to take. I know of two types of collapsible boxes, I think... if I can just find the right one, I can check the source on it, it's easy enough to get up and running. -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 09:32, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Anime pics

How do you get pictures of the anime episodes? If I try to play one on my computer and press "Print Scrn", the window where the video was is black. Is there any way around this? --S^hi_ny ^No_ct^ow_l 23:04, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

We just get them fro Filb.de. But if you have Windows Movie Maker or some other type of movie maker, you can take screenshots from there. I'm sure websites like Filb.de use some special kind of program to get screenshots. --☆ケンジガール 23:07, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

DVD Shrink saved the DVD as a .ifo file, and Windows Movie Maker won't let me open it. What file type do I need to convert it to and how do I convert it to the correct type? --S^hi_ny ^No_ct^ow_l 23:11, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

[1] Zurqoxn 03:44, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

I have the "download codecs automatically" box checked, and I'm on an administrator account, but I get the error message:

The file F:\My Documents\My Videos\Pokémon The Rise of Darkrai.avi cannot be imported because the codec required to play the file is not installed on your computer. If you have already tried to download and install the codec, close and restart Windows Movie Maker, and then try to import the file again.

I've tried closing and restarting Windows Movie Maker several times but it still gives me the error. --S^hi_ny ^No_ct^ow_l 20:47, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

If you could pause it without messing up the image, maybe you could just photo it. Theininen 20:00, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

A lot of video players have a feature that allows you to take screenshots. Media Player Classic is a good one. --FabuVinny ^{|Talk Page|} 20:05, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

James' not James's!!!!!!

EVERY SINGLE POSSESIVE FORM FOR JAMES ON THIS SITE IS WRONG! The possesive form of James is James', NOT James'sEmperor's Cookies 13:09, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Then fix it when you see it's wrong. -Sketchies 13:51, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Actually, both James's and James' are accepted possessive forms. (Note that that the 's is insisted upon in the The MLA Style Manual, as well as the Elements of Style which I believe is the writing standard we follow at Bulbapedia) The key is uniformity in the writing, thus, why James's is used on the Bulbapedia. Trainer-c 13:55, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Now that they are moved, doesn't that mean we have double redirects everywhere?!? ^Moldy_Orange

But proper english has s not s's. See here http://owl.english.purdue.edu/handouts/grammar/g_apost.html Emperor's Cookies 14:01, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Okay, I'll get right on that. ^Moldy_Orange 14:04, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

The links I provided clearly state that both are in fact "proper English" and anyone that has written professionally adheres to the Elements of Style, and The MLA Style Manual. I would ask about this on the forums before going wild with editing and redirecting everything.

I really don't think that this will work because both the OP and the TP Templates/shortlinks only work and will result in James's Pokémon. ^Moldy_Orange 14:15, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

The very page you cite does not support your claim. I quote, "add 's to the singular form of the word (even if it ends in -s)". James is, of course, singular. - 振霖_T 15:18, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

I asked my English teacher today, and it confirmed my thoughts that it's always just an apostrophe at the end of a name if the name ends with s. Porygon-Z 17:01, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Let's not forget it's the same English teachers who tell us that prepositions are not appropriate words to end sentences with. They are not always correct. James's is correct and the standard on Bulbapedia, end of discussion. - 振霖_T 02:05, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Wait a sec......

How does this user User:SharkJamez have stuff on the user account if he joined after the 24th of march.

• 20:08, June 6, 2008 SharkJamez (Talk | contribs) New user ‎

(When he joined) Emperor's Cookies 13:59, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

That's due to the content having originally been posted on the talk page. Even prior to the userspace ban, there were instances where people had posted content more appropriate for the User namespace in the User talk namespace, and since this content didn't appear to be a blatant attempt to get around the userspace ban, the content was moved. --Shiningpikablu252 14:14, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Look what I found

Look at this video I found on Youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsopjAc2xok

--Posted by Deadlymethane at 20:16, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Interesting. Too bad it doesn't really have a use yet. -- Unown Q 03:40, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

It worked for me. I'm pressed for time, though, and not keen to experiment a lot. TTEchidna 05:43, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

What do you mean it has no use? If no AR was used used in that video, then you could get the events with tweaking. --Posted by Deadlymethane at 23:08, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

I still cant figure out how to tweak.Emperor's Cookies 00:44, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

My talk page

Is gone. Completely gone. As In I can not find any history, or anything...Emperor's Cookies 18:32, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Boo-hoo. Don't use it for useless blog crap this time. That's not what it's for. Ketsuban 18:36, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

I did not use it for useless Blog $%^#. And even if the admins think I did, a warning would have been nice.Emperor's Cookies 18:38, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Your talk page had nonsense on it. We have been told to delete anything not having to do with Bulbapedia. Don't use your talk page for nonsense next time. You're not the only one this is going to happen to. -Sketchies 18:39, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

If I had been told that it would be wiped, I would have taken the axe to all the junk..... once again, would have been nice to have been forewarnedEmperor's Cookies 18:41, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

You had fanfiction on it. What exactly do you think the forums are for if you're cluttering the wiki up with tripe like that? Ketsuban 20:40, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

This has gone way beyond the point of "warning" people. Honestly though, you have been warned. The discussion on the Bulbapedia forum has been going on for long enough that everyone should have seen what was going to happen, and what kinds of things are unacceptable. This junk in the user space that has nothing to do with Bulbapedia has been killing the server, and we've put up with it long enough. If you want to store fanfiction on Bulbagarden, that's what library.bulbagarden.net is for. If you want to have long discussions about any topic, that's what BMGf is for. --Archaic 00:32, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Users with talk-page content that isn't about Bulbapedia should be warned ahead of time to give them time to back up the pages (this obviously applies only to things like fanfiction that the user might actually want to keep). --S^hi_ny ^No_ct^ow_l 01:03, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

They can retrieve the information from the history, so it really makes no difference if they're warned or not. --Archaic 01:32, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Actually, when it is delted, you cant pull back from the history. And I already kiled the fan fic.Emperor's Cookies 01:49, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

When removing stuff from talk pages, it's a much better idea to blank the page, not delete it. Deletion does absolutely nothing that blanking wouldn't do in this situation; the pages are still retained in the server database. At the very least, give users the ability to see what got deleted. -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 01:53, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Bots

How do you create bots? I want to make one myself rather than having someone else make one for me. --S^hi_ny ^No_ct^ow_l 16:12, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

If it isn't something that would be possible for me to do, I'd like a "shortcut" bot, named ShinyBot, that would change the following shortcuts into the correct code (to make editing easier by causing users to have to type less):

/d\→δ

/e\→é

/m\→♂

/f\→♀

//Pokédex number\\→[[Image:Pokédex number.png]]

/>page name<\→#redirect[[page name]]

/[image name][image height][image width][title][page name]\→{{Imagelink|image name|image height|image width|title|page name}}

More shortcuts possibly coming...

--S^hi_ny ^No_ct^ow_l 16:32, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Why not simply use the character palette? --ニョロトノ666 19:21, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

As opposed to creating a bot who's job would be to make every edit into two edits. -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 19:24, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Images

The images File:Escape Formula Example 2.png and File:Escape Formula Example 3.png don't show up, despite the fact that I've uploaded them (a:Image:Escape Formula Example 2.png and a:Image:Escape Formula Example 3.png). --S^hi_ny ^No_ct^ow_l 21:22, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

It's a bug. Images uploaded on the Archives may not show up on the Bulbapedia side at first. The situation usually sorts itself out over time, so I'd recommend leaving them as is--it'll probably fix itself eventually. --Shiningpikablu252 21:25, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Userspace

No, this isn't another whine or complaint, it's an idea. Instead of having the admins try to find some complex programming to make a edit limit, why not try to ask Bulbagarden to make a new area to put the userspace in? Have the userspace from the forums, the archives, the wiki, everything, on a new server? Just thought I'd throw the idea out there and have someone at least tell me why it won't work. Theininen 17:42, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Servers aren't free. -Sketchies 17:43, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, but put some of the donations from all the divisions toward it, and tell people that it would bring back the userspace... Theininen 17:45, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

There's honestly no reason to actually have a userspace, i liked it better when i couldn't see mine. It's pointless unless you really want people to know every detail about you, IMO.Boywonder01 17:52, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Why not just redirect all userspace pages to talk pages and be done with it? -- Unown Q 22:32, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

at this point, it looks like the userspace will be dissallowed and user pages will have little information on them. seriously, you join to edit and contribute, not to show off your ideas. -- MAGNEDETH 22:44, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Something to think about: Over on MarioWiki, one of our admins started a separate wiki (through wikia) called Userpedia, which is for all the community and fan crap. That might be a good solution to Bulbapedia's problems. -- Unown Q 22:51, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

I had heard about that, that's sort of what gave me the idea. Theininen 00:43, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

It works out rather well, with the occasional overlap. I recently proposed to my fellow admins about doing what Bulbapedia did and just block all userspace edits. -- Unown Q 01:00, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

I kinda like this ban, it weeds out the trolls and Bulbapedia moves forward.Of course, if it's permanent, you know the trolls will call shenanigans on the admins and the entire wiki.Boywonder01 01:12, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

the idea may be an easy way out, but Zhen doesnt have the money to support another server. especially one for users to play around on. especially considering he already has something like that. -- MAGNEDETH 01:31, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Free solutions do exist. -- Unown Q 03:30, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Wikia's only free money-wise. You pay for it in plenty of other ways. Trust me. -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 04:10, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Can someone tell me what servers are? I know thats what host the site, but what are they? Patriotfan09 04:23, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

A Server is just a computer that has the entire website saved on it, basically. A much bigger computer then normal, of course... -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 06:28, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Why not delete the user pages and user talk pages of users who dont use bulba anymore?Emperor's Cookies 18:13, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

But then you have the problem of, what designates a user who doesn't use bulbapedia anymore? You can't ask them if they still use it, you can't be sure they'll give you an answer. Lots of users "lurk" (use the site, but don't necessarily edit all the time). Maybe a year's worth of inactivity, but that's not exactly easy to enforce.

I think userspace is still an important thing to have; it's always good to know who's who. A name only tells you so much. But there's a lot of stuff that doesn't need to be on a userpage. I want to know the editor, not know every little detail about the person and their family. K.I.S.S. (Keep It Simple, Stupid) is a good rule for userspace.

Re-enabling userspace with restrictions, either on size, or scope, or number of edits, or all of the above... seems like a good idea. The problem is, how to do this simply. -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 18:28, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the info. Patriotfan09 22:56, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Wouldnt this be cool?

wouldnt it be cool that the day we get our 10,000th article we could have like an online party or something. or just like a celebration if we could find a website that could do that or something. but it would be fun wouldnt it!

its just an idea...

--Hey1031 22:10, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Contents

Hey, what happened to the contents column on the pages???????? --CoolPikachu! 03:33, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Which pages are you talking about in particular? Any examples?

I believe if they're not showing up at all, there's an option in your preferences to turn them off, so check that you didn't turn that on by mistake... -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 13:06, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Ok And I mean on every page i go on --CoolPikachu!

Still works for me, on all the pages that should have Contents (ToC is, by default, only visible if there's about three or more sections on the page). Check your preferences, is my bet. -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 16:20, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

My Pokémon Ranch

This is a new game avaliable for download on Wii (and since it is WiiWare, you have to have WiFi). As I was playing earlier, I realized that when Haley brings in Pokémon to the ranch, a description of the species appears. I'm not sure if it's identical to any descriptions so far, but I think it might be useful if it's put under "Pokédex Description" on the appropriate pages, though it's not really a Pokédex. Crüsäder 14:50, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Could be worth a shot since Gen I & II Pokémon have their "Stadium" descriptions. ~$aturn¥oshi ^{THE VOICES} 15:19, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

The only problem is, it doesn't show descriptions for all Pokémon, only the ones she brings in (as far as I've found, anyway). Crüsäder 18:24, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Oh... Then maybe it's not that notable. ~$aturn¥oshi ^{THE VOICES} 18:37, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

If we can get a full set, it will probably be worth adding. How many Pokémon species can she bring in? --FabuVinny ^{|Talk Page|} 18:50, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

She usually brings in one a day. Crüsäder 16:09, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Is there potential for her to bring in one of every kind of Pokémon? ~$aturn¥oshi ^{THE VOICES} 16:42, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

You can have 1000 Pokémon in there so if anyone is willing to wait 1000 days to find out, then maybe it is. I doubt she will bring in the event pokémon though... Rabla (i don't have a sig yet)

ads

what is with the much-hated ads on the wiki?!?!?! i hate them, and what was wrong with the google adbar at the top?? Lord of Origami 11:17, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

I was seeing them earlier, but now I don't anymore. ~$aturn¥oshi ^{THE VOICES} 13:20, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

It depends on the skin u use.I have always used cologne blue, and as long as I am logged in, I see no ads.Emperor's Cookies 16:09, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

I always use monobook, because I've used it for so long, i know where everything is, and I like it. Lord of Origami 16:20, 26 June 2008 (UTC)