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Previous discussions

Pokémon cries?

Should we add Pokémon cries to the Pokémon articles?--Starman125 20:18, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

It's been tried before, but it caused too many problems. It would still probably cause too much problems now.--Pokélova! 20:23, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
This has been discussed to death already. Jellotalk 20:24, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
We're going to try to get them put in as soon as possible. They've been sitting in a directory on the server for... jeez, at least a year. Last time we tried to put them in, the server exploded. Archaic's been wary of doing it since then. TTEchidna 20:35, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
Just out of curiosity, what file format was used for the cries? That may have been the problem.--Starman125 20:54, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
Over at de:, we have mp3 with the following syntax: {{#mp3:}}. I cannot figure out where that parser functions comes from, though.--Afrael talk 00:59, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
I think having the files like have their music files could work well. We might even eventually be able to put route/town/cave music on the pages!--Pokélova! 04:09, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

Move Trivia

Should there be a trivia section for moves? For instance, only one Pokémon can learn Steel Wing by leveling up.--Chalkwriter 16:26, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

There are for some moves, but not all of them have any notable trivia to add, so there is no sub heading. If you think of notable trivia, then add the sub-heading and put it in. Thanks, Samjohn95 21:38, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

Glitch Pokémon

Hi there. I remember when I was around nine, I used to play Pokémon Gold & Crystal, and I remember there was this cloning trick that could clone pokémon and the items that they held. Anyways, I began to notice if I did the right trick at a certain time, (or whatever it was, it has been a while) I managed to get a special type of Pokémon, the trainer. The trainer of course, had no moves and therefore could only struggle, but you could use TMs and everything. I remember having fun with that, but I can't find any info on this.- unsigned comment from Bublador (talkcontribs)

Try this page, all of the glitches are on [[1]] and please sign your comment when you use these talk pages. thank you --Daniel1993 19:55, 27 August 2010 (UTC)


I'm just thinking if on every Pokémon's page that we have their Pronunciation somewhere? like this:

Say: Sin-da-qwil

What do you think?--KayKay|Chat to me! 07:03, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

It's a good idea, but I believe we've had problems with adding pronunciations in the past because of people not agreeing on the "correct" pronunciation (also, sometimes there are conflicting pronunciations from different official sources) --ZestyCactus 07:06, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
Oh oh then. I just though because some Pokémon I can't pronounce their names--KayKay|Chat to me! 07:21, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
If you have a look at the source of, say, Bulbasaur's page, you'll see this:
name=Bulbasaur |
pron=<sc>''bul''-buh-sore</sc> <ref>Barbo, Maria. ''The Official Pokémon Handbook''. 
Scholastic Publishing, 1999. ISBN 0-439-10397-5</ref> |
jname=フシギダネ |
tmname=Fushigidane |

the "pron=" parameter is not coded into the infobox, so it does appear. But it's there on every Pokemon's page. たかはり 07:39, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Yes, it's coded in but because of the disagreements on pronunciation and no clear official source for many of them, it was decided to hide them all. If Nintendo or anyone ever releases an official pronunciation guide then we'll be able to put them back up. —darklordtrom 07:43, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
Is whatever the pronunciation is in the English dub of the anime (and similarly the pronunciation in the Japanese dub for those not yet released over here) not enough to justify it? With the exception of the odd time where they've actually changed the pronunciation during it e.g. Regice... TheChrisD RantsEdits 13:46, 2 September 2010 (UTC)


I hate to be the silly one who starts the "What's going on?!!" discussion, but seriously, why have all the pictures of the Generation I Pokémon been changed to the old Red and Green artwork? Is it for an aniversary or something? T a r o m o n 10:59, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Yes. Anniversary of RB was yesterday, so Gen I Pokémon got Gen I art. But due to the server cache it took some a while to switch over, and I believe they should all be starting to switch back now, but again, that'll be whenever the server cache gets updated. Werdnae (talk) 11:24, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
Actually, maybe it could be put on a switch, like with Gastrodon's forms, so it could switch between old and new artwork periodically. How's that sound? - unsigned comment from Missingno. Master (talkcontribs) 13:49, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
That's exactly what it did. —darklordtrom 22:34, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
Oh, so it's still in effect? As in, like, permanently? Because that was what I was suggesting. - unsigned comment from Missingno. Master (talkcontribs) 22:36, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
Yes, next year and on certain other days the site will have easter egg effects. Yaaaay for surprises. —darklordtrom 20:32, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
I won't panic when the Gym Leader pictures are replaced by fan art then... T a r o m o n 11:53, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

just a though...

i realise this is probably in the wrong place, but, as unlocking the generation IV nationaldex and requesting a trade on the GTS require only seeing a particular species of pokémon, would it make sense to include a section explaining where to see them. (and i am aware that the GTS has only around a week left). I know that people (granted they are few) have had problems viewing unown and riolu in DP for example.--Mr-connor 13:03, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

There is a section explaining where to see, and catch, Pokémon. It's right below the Pokédex Entries section.--Mtn otter I lie in wait...... 13:17, 5 September 2010 (UTC)


this is my current team for pokemon soulsilver...i think it has room for improvement. The a-team 21:14, 5 September 2010 (UTC)brandon strayhornThe a-team 21:14, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

This isn't the place to put this. Post it on the forums.--Cold (talk) 21:20, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

Bulbagarden Archives

I have a problem that I keep sending the confirmation e-mail like every week but it doesn't show up. I'm saying it here because I haven't confirmed my e-mail on Archives. Someone please help me!!!!!!--KayKay|Chat to me! 10:26, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

Have you checked it isn't getting caught by the spam filter on your email? Maybe check that the email address is right too? Werdnae (talk) 10:42, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
Thanks Wardnae, I accidentally wrote the wrong email.--KayKay|Chat to me! 23:42, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

Sizes on Pokémon pages..

Something that's been bugging me for a while. I've been manually going around and resizing the main art boxes at the top of each Pokémon page so they all match each other and look uniform. However, many times box sizes will still be off by a few pixels. Would there be anyway to code something that keeps them all the same size? [2] is an example of what Ii'm talking about. Basically, the box that surrounds the art.~★ cubicQUESTION 13:48, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

Even if you make the width a certain size, the length will be different according to the size of the art. To get it uniform, you would have to make every file have some whitespace so it would be the same size. That won't happen though. The boxes don't really need to be uniform in size. Blake Talk·Edits 20:23, 10 September 2010 (UTC)


First of all, I have a idea of a section in the pokemon's main page. Footprint. It'll be good. also, the Pronunciation topic above^^. We can take Right pronunciation from Pokemon Wiki. I know its cheating, but, Ill help us. --Ash's Infernape 11:41, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

The footprint is already in each Pokémon's infobox. And, we already discussed that the pronunciation caused conflict, and the Pokémon Wiki is far from a reliable source. So we probably won't be adding the pronunciation to each's Pokémon's page. たかはり 11:08, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
By the way I think you were trying to say Listen not Litsen?--KayKay|Chat to me! 11:09, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
Well, Pronunciation is what admins can do when the wiki lets locked. also, wouldn't they need help adding 150 and more pokemon?--Ash's Infernape 11:41, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
Pronunciation is conflicting. It isn't just hard work. For example, Bonsly was pronounced with an ē once, then with an ī in another time. One was in the movie, the other in the anime, I've just forgotten which. Turtwig's A-B-Cs (talk | contribs) 11:58, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
Oh Really? We All Know That Charmander is pronounced Chaar-man-der. Easy Enough?? Just search on google for pokemon pronunciation.--Ash's Infernape 12:05, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, no Google searching, thanks. The official sources (Official Handbooks, Anime, and Video Games) don't always agree on pronunciations of Pokémon names. Now, if the official sources all agree at one point, then we will add them. But until then, they're not going on the species pages. - Kogoro | Talk to me - 12:16, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Okay Then. Moving to the next topic. What About Something at the Top of The Pokemon pics To Change the Picture into other generation art or to a Different form?--Ash's Infernape 12:25, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Most form changing Pokémon have their forms rotated based on the current time (see Arceus, then refresh the page). As for different generations, the infoboxes are set to display it on certain days—for example, on the anniversary of Red and Blue the Pokémon pages displayed their Red and Blue artwork (for those that have it). --SnorlaxMonster 12:44, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Doesn't look like the servers are being nice

No, I'm not geting 504s (or, if I am, FireFox is hiding them); I'm getting something even worse: pages not loading at all. A couple of days ago, I was going to come here to get a small amount of information, and it took ages to do so (so long in fact that I just got it O_O). I think the servers are being overstressed - despite the fact that I was getting good ping times off of 10 pings to the site's router (if there is one), I couldn't load any pages - not even robots.txt! That is just a simple text document, and it wouldn't even load! I would start the lockdown soon, as the closer to release we get, the more activity we are likely to get.

I consider myself lucky I could even get on right now. --TruePikachu 06:37, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

The fifth generation Pokemon are invading Bulbapedia and interfering with the system! I haven't actually noticed any problems yet though, which is strange. T a r o m o n 20:38, 16 September 2010 (UTC)


as i mentioned Form changing above, We can use A method for pokemon with 2 different forms like giratina and shellos

Method: All you guys saw Avatar, Everyone Saw. Now See The Avatar Wiki's Jake Sully Article. There is a button below the pic to change the Picture into Human/Avatar. We can use that Method.--Ash's Infernape 16:48, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

That's a really good idea actually, I think it would be better than the Pokemon's form just changing periodically. Perhaps now Bulbapedia is being upgraded for the fifth generation, it would be a convenient time for recoding the articles. T a r o m o n 20:36, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
I dunno. Shaymin is also two formes, and changes with time. Shellos and Giratina, by the way, are not random. It's based on the hours. And unfortunately, that just changes the infobox picture; there are several things that change for forme changers. Unless your Ground-type moves miss against Altered Forme Giratina. What's that? They don't? But you can only use Earthquake five times? TTEchidna 04:11, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
Wikimon has a more extensive one that allows you to toggle the whole box, for example in the Agumon article, click the tabs. It even integrates the table of contents into it. Pretty clever. - MK (t/c) 04:57, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
see, only arceus has several things that needed to be changed. what about others?--Ash's Infernape 07:52, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
What about Mebukijika and Genesect (yes, Genesect has other formes (I think five or six?)) Zekasaur 10:53, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
I also support the toggle idea. By the way, it has been mentioned in Arbok's Pokédex entries that it has at least six different patterns, of which two have appeared in official game art. Maybe it would be worthwhile to also toggle these two the same way? --BlackySully 09:05, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
I say we just stick with actual forme changes, and not include design differences between canons. PDL 14:24, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

Metric tags in Pokédex entries

All pokedex entries use the imperial units of measurement from the US translation. I suggest adding tags with the metric counterparts for two reasons:

1 - the original Japanese entries use metric units, so it could be seen as "more canon".

2 - there are international users of Bulbapedia (me included) that are not used to imperial units.

For example, the final sentence in Magneton's entry in Yellow could be: It raises the temperature by 3.6F degrees within 3,300 feet.

If the staff agrees, I'm willing to go through all Pokedex entries and add the metric values. I know enough Japanese to easily get the official values from the pokedex entries listed on the Japanese wiki, assuming those are correct.

--BlackySully 09:05, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

Metric system seems like a pretty simple and straightforward thing to include, it's merely a big job to go through everything and add the metric equivalent. Perhaps starting small, with say the Pokémon infobox only for now, and work our way up (every infobox should list the Pokémon's height and weight, so it's the most prominent use of the imperial system). Pokédex entries are also pretty simple, but I'd also say they're the less important area to work on (no complaints if you want to fix them all yourself, however). -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 11:28, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
Each Pokemon already have both their imperial and metric height and weight listed in their infobox, except for Generation 5, because their imperial values are not yet officially known. So pokedex entries are the most important area left to work on, as far as I can see. --BlackySully 13:37, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
Unless someone else has a big complaint about it, I don't see why you can't go ahead and update those, in that case. -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 14:47, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
I have done 101 out of 493 for now. I may have missed a few in scanning all those entries. --BlackySully 23:59, 30 September 2010 (UTC)


The option to write in the discussion for the Pokemon Black and White Versions isn't there. Are we not aloud to write there? --Mew is the Original One 21:16, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, but only if you're autoconfirmed, meaning you've been registered for a certain amount of time and have made a certain number of edits.--Cold (talk) 21:22, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
OK thanks --Mew is the Original One 22:09, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
What is the amount of time and important edits? Zekasaur 10:49, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

3D Artwork

This is something that's been on my mind for a while now, but I couldn't bring it up due to the lockdown. Does anyone else think it would be a good idea to possibly include 3D images of Pokémon and Pokémon moves, like what's done for anime? It could be done in a seperate section or sub-section of the articles. Oh, and I don't mean updating every time a new 3D game comes out; I mean adding images for each time a move or Pokémon has appeared in a 3D game, like images of Pidgeot from its appearances in Pokémon Stadium through Pokémon Battle Revolution. I don't know if this has been brought up before, but is this notion a good idea?--Black Yin Zekrom 00:06, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Although i don't know much, but taking 3D Pics will be hard and i don't think its a very good idea.--Ash's Infernape 11:07, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Well, I don't quite know how it's done, but you don't take 3D pics by using a camera or something. The quality of the 3D images here prove that.--Black Yin Zekrom 15:25, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Lylat Wiki

Lylat Wiki is now a part of NIWA, Oct 8th and 15th two others will be added, so might wanna add that to your NIWA bar ;] Malake256 17:03, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

Main page design

Does no one else think Tsutarja is missing? We have Bulbasaur, Treecko, Chikorita and Turtwig pics on the main page, but no Tsutarja (or victini if you want the first pokémon in the dex) I can feel it's absence when I look at the page. Kanjo 19:55, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

main page uses animated minisprites. we dont have Gen V animated minisprites. -- MAGNEDETH 19:56, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
Yet. TTEchidna 20:09, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
I can Make Them Animate. but it wont we official, and Archives are currently blocked.--Ash's Infernape 20:33, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
I see. That's a little worrying because they're not animated on my screen. Kanjo 17:10, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
What browser are you running? --SnorlaxMonster 07:26, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
on chrome and IE they don't work, only firefox. Kanjo 12:44, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
I've heard that they also work on Opera. --SnorlaxMonster 06:04, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
Actually,there is a Tsutarja animated sprite Bulbagarden Archives, but there's no space for it. However, a Victini sprite has also been uploaded. Jlin8002 00:00, 9 October 2010 (UTC)Jlin8002

Shiny Gen V Sprites

I would like to know where we are going to put the shiny sprites for the fifth generation Pokémon. I have the sprites (official). Zekasaur 10:47, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

We have them, however we have yet to upload them. I guess I could do them today. --Psyライダー 11:28, 5 October 2010 (UTC)


This is a big job, and would probably be a bad idea, but could we translate Bulbapedia into other languages? I know that we already have basic translations of Pokémon and Moves, but what about the rest of it?----Chalkwriter 18:08, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

May I direct your attention here MaverickNate 18:09, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

Clearer distinction between "natural" and Dream World abilities.

I think the distinction between pokémon that only have certain abilities through the Pokémon Dream World and those that don't can be made clearer. For example, on pages of separate abilities there is just one table with normal and PDW pokémon all mixed up, while it would be easier to make separate tables for both. I think this would help both users that own Pokémon Black or White and those that don't. Besides that we could also make a category for "Abilities exclusive to Pokémon Dream World", like Harvest. --BlackySully 00:22, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

On the separate pages, they are specfically listed in a separate column that says "Dream World ability". That seems separate enough. MaverickNate 00:24, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
Yes, but I think it would be easier if for example you are looking for a pokémon that has a certain ability, that you don't have to go through a list of which half of the pokémon are Dream World pokémon. Even for Dream World users like me pokémon in wild and in Dream World are two completely separate things. But yeah, it's not that necessary. --BlackySully 09:32, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Grammar error

Being the Grammar Nazi I am, I have spotted an error I can't fix. I accidentally got logged out while editing a userpage, and I noticed there is a lack of space between sentences on the message that explains that new users cannot edit userpages. This is really bothering me, so could anyone with the power to edit the MediaWiki namespace fix it? CuboneKing 02:13, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Done, I think. —darklordtrom 02:20, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Update on Message to the Editor

This should be updated, no? I think people would like to know it's been unlocked Malake256 02:51, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

Very true, its more that a month old Ruberduck0123 07:00, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
It doesn't matter if it's five months old, he edits it when they have an announcement to make, he doesn't have to update it once a month people!! --Landfish7 13:46, 24 October 2010 (UTC)


I have a question : Can only staff members report news to bulbanews or can normal users also report --Vlade 15:45, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

Bulbanews is a different wiki altogether. Though they're both part of Bulbagarden, both Bulbapedia and Bulbanews have their own front pages. The information you're looking for is on Bulbanews's front page and if you have any other questions about it, it'd make sense to ask on that talk page rather than this one. here's a link, for convenience Kanjo 20:26, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

What Kanjo said is correct, but to answer your question, anyone is allowed to report news to Bulbanews. After submission, an admin or columnist needs to move it out of the draft namespace and into the mainspace. --SnorlaxMonster 00:01, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

Zoroark's Name

I think the Ark in its name could be cause it can transform into lots of pokemon like an ark of pokemon and the reason i posted it here cause i cant post it on Zoroark's article . --Vlade 16:12, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

First of all, if you can't post in an article, inquire in the article's talk page (i.e. Talk:Zoroark (Pokémon)), not Talk: Main Page. Secondly, that's a real stretch: that's not an actual definition of the word ark, it's just a vague metaphor. --AndyPKMN 21:07, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

Before you ask

Read the news. TTEchidna 20:33, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

Is it for the Japanese anime writer? If so, I suppose Chimecho is more appropriate than Lugia, considering how the little windchime links to places like Mt. Pyre and Sendoff Spring. It can be in greyscale if desired. Besides, what is more favourable aesthetically is that one may include Chingling too, instead of Lugia all over the place. Rxhar 09:46, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
It's Lugia because the man is credited with helping to create it. It was on the news post. Tamah 23:41, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
Well, it was more than a week by now, someone could remember me who edits the main page? --EzekielMaple 16:14, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

What'd I do wrong here?


... What happened? SpecialK Leiks Lucario and the Celebi Glitch 12:46, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

Just create a page with {{subst:welcome}}.----無限の知性DENNOUZENSHI 13:08, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

EV Listings

I was just thinking of a very useful idea. On the pages for each route, cave, etc, where the wild Pokémon are listen, I was thinking we should add another column after each Pokémon and say "1 Speed," or "2 Attack," or something. That, paired with encounter and level rates would help a great deal in EV training for all different levels. - unsigned comment from Igglybuff63 (talkcontribs)

Well, I admit, this would be useful to some people, but this is an encyclopedia, not a walkthrough. Honestly, I don't see why you can't go to the Pokémon's page and check. I'm not for it, but I'm not exactly saying NO. --Si6x12 03:01, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
I agree completely, however, it would be a nice little touch on the page for convenience. I'm not one of them, but I know some people have incredibly slow computers, and I can easily imagine the frustration of those who have slow connections along with a desire to EV train. Igglybuff63 14:00, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
I'm thinking no, but I do see a use in it. Perhaps Project Walkthroughs would be a good place to ask. --SnorlaxMonster 14:07, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Redirection Pages

Do we really need those redirection pages with one Pokémon used by a character, the TCG link, and the Pokémon link? We already have the Pokémon used by a character and it's TCG links on the page. I understand the ones for like Pikachu, but ones like Mr. Mime and Gengar don't need to be there, do they? DarthMartian7 03:09, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

This is already being discussed on the forums, so please be patient. ~ solaris 03:13, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

What to do with Dream World artwork.

Currently we use some to replace the Sugimori artwork, but what to do when said artwork is avaiable?. Sincerely i thing it would be a waste to just leave the DW artwork floating alone. Do you agree? We should do something with it. --EzekielMaple 18:06, 15 November 2010 (UTC) Sorry, forgot signature

It would be a waste. Also, how come we don't put up the old artwork on the Pokémon's page? It seems a waste not to include it on the page (especially when some trivia refers to it). Teshigigas [Talk] 18:29, 15 November 2010 (UTC)