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== Devolving ==
== Devolving ==


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== Colorblind SOS! ==
== Colorblind SOS! ==


I'm colorblind and I can't tell what's the difference between the shiny version?{{Unsigned|Mr.Char}}
I'm colorblind and I can't tell what's the difference between the shiny version? [[User:Mr.Char|Mr.Char]] 23:47, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
:The shiny  one has a sand/tan-ish body and pure black magnets.[[User:The Sandwich Oven|<font color="#83F52C">That Sammich</font>]] [[user talk:The Sandwich Oven|<font color="#FF0000">Omnomnom</font>]] [[Pokémon Ranger (Ranger series)|<font color="#FF2400">Rangers lead the way.</font>]] 23:43, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
:The shiny  one has a sand/tan-ish body and pure black magnets.[[User:The Sandwich Oven|<font color="#83F52C">That Sammich</font>]] [[user talk:The Sandwich Oven|<font color="#FF0000">Omnomnom</font>]] [[Pokémon Ranger (Ranger series)|<font color="#FF2400">Rangers lead the way.</font>]] 23:43, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
== Notable Trivia? ==
''Magneton's sprites in the handheld games show the three Magnemite that make it up as being connected together; however, in the console games, they are shown as three separate Magnemite floating in a triangular formation with each other, only touching when they attack.''
Does it really need to be there? I don't see how it is notable, it would be different if all of its handheld sprites show them to be linked, but Red/Blue and Silver show otherwise. Plus its sprite trivia, I guess. <small><span style="color:white; background-color:blue">'''X'''</span>[[User:Vuvuzela2010|<span style="color:blue; background-color:white">'''Vuvuzela2010''']]</span><span style="color:white; background-color:blue">'''X'''</span></small> 14:01, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
:Yeah, it's unnotable, and I already re-removed it.----'''''無限の知性''''' ◎ [[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#BF0B17">DENNOU</font>]]'''[[Special:Random|◆]]'''[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#1250A6">ZENSHI</font>]] 14:08, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
== Generation II Type Change ==
"One could argue that this was purely because the Steel type had not been officially recognized by Pokémon researchers in Generation I; however, in FireRed and LeafGreen they are Electric/Steel-type."
This argument is inaccurate, because FireRed and LeafGreen are actually part of Generation III. Wouldn't it make more sense to state that the arguable reason is that Steel wasn't recognized as a Pokémon type until Pokemon Gold & Silver? It has nothing to do with the in-game "Pokémon researchers", and is instead based simply on the type not existing in the game data originally. This same issue might also exist on Magnemite's page. [[User:Kianglo|Kianglo]] 01:06, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
:I have added a line that should make the section more clear. Some fans like to take the hardcore route and provide an explanation, and I'd like to keep that opinion in the article, but everyone truly knows it's just a good ol fashioned retcon. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">MAG</span>]][[Special:Contributions/MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#696969;">NE</span>]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">DETH</span>]]''' 01:33, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
== Cries ==
I really don't think that the cry ''slightly'' changed in Generation III is somewhere near notable. I removed it some time ago, but {{u|MAGNEDETH}} obviously didn't like that. I think it's obvious that '''every''' Pokémon from the original 251 had their cry changed due to the [[Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire Versions|new games]] playing prerecorded versions of them rather than a chip-generated noise. Since we're not adding that to evey page, we can just point those that have their cry deliberately changed, like Pikachu, Shaymin and Kyurem. '''[[User:Hfc2x|<span style="color:#008800">h</span><span style="color:#000000">fc</span>]][[User talk:Hfc2x|<span style="color:#000000">2</span><span style="color:#008800">X</span>]]''' 22:06, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
== Amount on screws on Magneton ==
Does not seemed to be brought up, but here goes:
Magneton is made of 3 Magnemite. 1 Magnemite has 3 screws, so 3 Magnemite equates to 9 screws.
Logical?
However that is not the case, as all of the recent official artworks seems to show only 7 screws, 3 for the Magnemite on the top of the triangle, 2 on each of the other 2 Magnemite.
However, do note that Magneton Sprite from Pokemon GSC has 9, so I'm assuming that it is a sprite error.
So:
3 Magnemite with 7 screws = Magneton
 
3 Magnemite with 9 screws = simply 3 Magnemite.
This is probably interesting trivia..
Side note: It's evolution is explained as 3 Magnemite combining correct. Wouldn't it be cool to have a Magneton made up of only one shiny Magnemite?[[User:Theslayer|Theslayer]] ([[User talk:Theslayer|talk]]) 14:39, 12 May 2013 (UTC)
:It's not just GSC that has 9 screws, it's also all of Generation III. In any case, this is sprite trivia, which is not allowed on Bulbapedia because it clogs up the trivia section with stuff that's self-evident by observing other parts of the page. As far as the differences between Magneton and three separate Magnemite, I'd just chalk that up to [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GameplayAndStorySegregation gameplay and story segregation]. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 18:55, 12 May 2013 (UTC)
== Impossible Magneton ==
On the first generation (RBY) there's an Engineer with a level 18 Magneton ( a level impossible to get naturally) [[User:Jackoul|Jackoul]] ([[User talk:Jackoul|talk]]) 17:30, 5 March 2015 (UTC) Jack
== Mass Trivia ==
Would it be relevant to note that the reason why magneton weighs 10x as much as magnemite is that it's physically larger? Specifically each of the component bodies would only need to be about 1.49 times bigger to account for the three-dimensional mass gain.
This could make sense, as while magneton's height is listed at over 3x that of magnemite, this number seems to fit when accounting for the dimensions of the bottom-most magnets. [[User:SibeliusEosOwm|SibeliusEosOwm]] ([[User talk:SibeliusEosOwm|talk]]) 10:03, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
:I personally don't think that's notable enough to put in trivia. --[[User:Spriteit|Spriteit]] ([[User talk:Spriteit|talk]]) 14:49, 2 August 2015 (UTC)
== On origin section.... ==
The reason why many Magneton appear near black spots of sun as described in the dex entry is that they are the magnetic concentration of sun [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunspot]. The dex entry is a reference to that. [[User:Trainer Yusuf|Trainer Yusuf]] ([[User talk:Trainer Yusuf|talk]]) 11:47, 10 December 2015 (UTC)

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Devolving

I theorize that a Magneton could be seperated into its base Magnemite with a strong enough magnetic force. However I don't think the same could go for Magnezone, as they appear to be permanently fused.--JP585 22:08, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Well, If two magnamite get stuck together, they can be pulled apart as shown in Mystery Dungeon. I don't know if its possible once its three...- unsigned comment from QuackOfaThousandSuns (talkcontribs)
Please try to avoid replying to the old discussions. Just check the date of the above comment that you replied, it's almost 3 years old. Thank you. ♫♪AdyNiz♪♫ 18:17, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

Magneton? Hmm what about other formations...

Magneton? Hmm what about other formations...what would they be called? What if the Magnemite were connected via the magnets instead of the bodies. I would call it Magnition. Just imagine them forming a ball of electricity within the triangle. Meh that formation would probably make more sense if there were more than three magnemite. Perhaps six.--JP585 22:14, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

The only Pokemon anyone knows of capable of devolving is Slowbro. --Zeta 23:04, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Well, remember the episode Sparks Fly For Magnemite!, the Magneton clumped at the place where the grimer are. Isn't that, uh, err... super giant Magneton? Magnetron? Magzetron? Magnegigas???? Weezing22arbok 01:54, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

or its just a lot of Magneton. which it is. -- MAGNEDETH 03:59, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Triva

If you compare Magneton's Diamond/Pearl graphic with its Platinum graphic you can clearly see they are mirror images of each other. Now this may not be trivial enough to make trivia, but it is certainly true and warrants at least consideration of mention. I'm sure there's plenty of people that would read that, scroll up, and think "Wow. That's true." Redstar 22:42, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Silver Sprite

On the Silver sprite, it seems that one of the Magnemite are detached. Should that be worth noting in the trivia? Chuck67322 06:05, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

No, not really. Trivia is for information that you wouldn't readily notice by yourself, and the fact it's "detached" is easily noticeable at a glance. At any rate, I don't believe the Magnemite are attached in any sense more than a magnetic field, so it makes sense that at certain angles they wouldn't seem to be touching. Redstar 06:16, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
if you think thats bad, you should see Pokemon Snap and Stadium games. -- MAGNEDETH 16:30, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
I don't have those games :(
@Redstar: Yeah, I guess it's not that important. Chuck67322 23:41, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Typing

As Magneton, along with Magnemite were just electric in Gerneration I does anybody think that that should be put in the infobox. Fir example, we do the same thing with Shaymin's type changes on forms. We say the two types separately then put the stars and state that the Electric is G1 and that Electric/Steel is G2 onward. Anyone? BrokenMotor 23:47, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

Evobox

Is it possible to change it to Mt Coronet or Electric Rock Cave? Same thing with Nosepass and the Eeveelutions in their respective locations. --ケンジガール 20:55, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

Leafeon and Glaceon currently say "Level up at Moss Rock/Ice Rock", which works fine and links to the pages on the respective rocks. But if there were a way to add the "or" in this case, that'd be the way to go. --AndyPKMN 01:37, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
It's already added to the page - 050294 02:42, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Colorblind SOS!

I'm colorblind and I can't tell what's the difference between the shiny version? Mr.Char 23:47, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

The shiny one has a sand/tan-ish body and pure black magnets.That Sammich Omnomnom Rangers lead the way. 23:43, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Notable Trivia?

Magneton's sprites in the handheld games show the three Magnemite that make it up as being connected together; however, in the console games, they are shown as three separate Magnemite floating in a triangular formation with each other, only touching when they attack.

Does it really need to be there? I don't see how it is notable, it would be different if all of its handheld sprites show them to be linked, but Red/Blue and Silver show otherwise. Plus its sprite trivia, I guess. XVuvuzela2010X 14:01, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, it's unnotable, and I already re-removed it.----無限の知性DENNOUZENSHI 14:08, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

Generation II Type Change

"One could argue that this was purely because the Steel type had not been officially recognized by Pokémon researchers in Generation I; however, in FireRed and LeafGreen they are Electric/Steel-type."

This argument is inaccurate, because FireRed and LeafGreen are actually part of Generation III. Wouldn't it make more sense to state that the arguable reason is that Steel wasn't recognized as a Pokémon type until Pokemon Gold & Silver? It has nothing to do with the in-game "Pokémon researchers", and is instead based simply on the type not existing in the game data originally. This same issue might also exist on Magnemite's page. Kianglo 01:06, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

I have added a line that should make the section more clear. Some fans like to take the hardcore route and provide an explanation, and I'd like to keep that opinion in the article, but everyone truly knows it's just a good ol fashioned retcon. -- MAGNEDETH 01:33, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

Cries

I really don't think that the cry slightly changed in Generation III is somewhere near notable. I removed it some time ago, but MAGNEDETH obviously didn't like that. I think it's obvious that every Pokémon from the original 251 had their cry changed due to the new games playing prerecorded versions of them rather than a chip-generated noise. Since we're not adding that to evey page, we can just point those that have their cry deliberately changed, like Pikachu, Shaymin and Kyurem. hfc2X 22:06, 16 December 2012 (UTC)

Amount on screws on Magneton

Does not seemed to be brought up, but here goes:

Magneton is made of 3 Magnemite. 1 Magnemite has 3 screws, so 3 Magnemite equates to 9 screws.


Logical?


However that is not the case, as all of the recent official artworks seems to show only 7 screws, 3 for the Magnemite on the top of the triangle, 2 on each of the other 2 Magnemite.

However, do note that Magneton Sprite from Pokemon GSC has 9, so I'm assuming that it is a sprite error.

So:

3 Magnemite with 7 screws = Magneton

3 Magnemite with 9 screws = simply 3 Magnemite.

This is probably interesting trivia..

Side note: It's evolution is explained as 3 Magnemite combining correct. Wouldn't it be cool to have a Magneton made up of only one shiny Magnemite?Theslayer (talk) 14:39, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

It's not just GSC that has 9 screws, it's also all of Generation III. In any case, this is sprite trivia, which is not allowed on Bulbapedia because it clogs up the trivia section with stuff that's self-evident by observing other parts of the page. As far as the differences between Magneton and three separate Magnemite, I'd just chalk that up to gameplay and story segregation. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 18:55, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

Impossible Magneton

On the first generation (RBY) there's an Engineer with a level 18 Magneton ( a level impossible to get naturally) Jackoul (talk) 17:30, 5 March 2015 (UTC) Jack

Mass Trivia

Would it be relevant to note that the reason why magneton weighs 10x as much as magnemite is that it's physically larger? Specifically each of the component bodies would only need to be about 1.49 times bigger to account for the three-dimensional mass gain. This could make sense, as while magneton's height is listed at over 3x that of magnemite, this number seems to fit when accounting for the dimensions of the bottom-most magnets. SibeliusEosOwm (talk) 10:03, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

I personally don't think that's notable enough to put in trivia. --Spriteit (talk) 14:49, 2 August 2015 (UTC)

On origin section....

The reason why many Magneton appear near black spots of sun as described in the dex entry is that they are the magnetic concentration of sun [1]. The dex entry is a reference to that. Trainer Yusuf (talk) 11:47, 10 December 2015 (UTC)