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== Karakuri Puppet? ==
Do we have any evidence to believe Magearna is based off of a karakuri puppet? While I would agree that it is likely based off of historical automatons, I would argue that Leonardo da Vinci's robot[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonardo%27s_robot] has more evidence as a source of inspiration. Leonardo da Vinci lived 500 years ago, just as Magearna's creator did, and could very easily be described as a "scientist of uncommon genius". Also, in this trailer[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkQUuhfvdjU&ab_channel=%E3%83%9D%E3%82%B1%E3%83%A2%E3%83%B3%E5%85%AC%E5%BC%8FYouTube%E3%83%81%E3%83%A3%E3%83%B3%E3%83%8D%E3%83%AB] for the Magearna movie, Magearna's creator appears remarkably similar to da Vinci and has a studio that appears to be inspired by his.
As a comparison, karakuri puppets were originally made in the 17th to 19th centuries, placing them at least 50 years after Leonardo's robot, and were most famously known for being made by Tanaka Hisashige, who wasn't born until 1799. [[User:Pacack| <span style="background:#000000"><span style="color:#ffe700">'''Pa'''ᗧ•••</span><span style="color:#0000FF">ᗣ'''ck'''</span> </span>]] 03:00, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

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Can we please make this page with the NewPokemon template? --TheMaskedMeowth (talk) 23:49, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

It's already being worked on here.--MisterE13 23:53, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

Is it just me...

...or does her "dress" look kinda like a Poke Ball? Nutter Butter (talk) 14:42, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

Nvm it's already mentioned. Although I don't see the Poke Ball similarities in her upper chest... Nutter Butter (talk) 14:45, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
I think Magearna looks similar to Diancie in some way... Or it's just me. Dragoombanite (talk) 01:01, 16 March 2016 (UTC)

The SM website says that Magearna can curl into a Poke Ball shape when it's sad or asleep. Should we add that? It seems to change from this "form" as it is sent out into battle. (it was shown in the recent trailer: the one with Pikipek, Yungoos etc. The Japanese trailer for the Volcanion movie shows it curling into a ball as well I think) DecafSnorlax (talk) 21:43, 15 June 2016 (UTC)

Generation VI

Is there a way to remove that from the categories? New Pokémon have only ever been introduced at the beginning of a Generation so Magiana is most likely a Generation VII Pokémon. --HoennMaster 09:33, 12 February 2016 (UTC)

Template no longer defaults to any Generation and won't apply a Generation category until a Generation is input. - Kogoro - Talk to me - 10:09, 12 February 2016 (UTC)
Just gonna put it out there, that in this day and age is is VERY easy for Nintendo to patch in a new hidden pokemon. Not saying that's gonna happen, but we shouldn't discount it either. --Lego3400 (talk) 01:39, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

Volcanion as previous

Technically we don't know her exact location in the Poke Dex, so we shouldn't have Volcanion listed as the previous dex entry. Nutter Butter (talk) 01:25, 14 February 2016 (UTC)

It's the previous Pokémon revealed, and it's not like Volcanion skipped a number/multiple numbers, so that's probably why we have it listed as the previous Pokémon.--HyruleWarrior (talk) 23:24, 14 February 2016 (UTC)
When we didn't have any dex info we didn't list it like that. And there's also the fact that we don't even know if Magearna is a Gen VI Pokemon - she could be a Gen VII and is being introduced early like Lucario/Zoroark/etc. If this is the case, which we have no evidence for either way, she probably isn't next to Volcanion - the starters and such are probably between them. Nutter Butter (talk) 03:29, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
It's possible that Magearna might be placed after Volcanion in the Pokédex like how Victini is after Arceus. --PKMNAdventurer (talk) 05:29, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
Keyword: possible. Not confirmed. Nutter Butter (talk) 16:53, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

Any admin want to change this please? Nutter Butter (talk) 15:40, 16 February 2016 (UTC)

Moon Marking on Forehead?

I can see the supposed moon marking, but it looks more like an eye to me. LittleOmu (talk) 03:48, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

I don't see a moon marking. It looks more like an eye, as you said. But I think it's more just trying to "carve out" the face into a different shape than anything. Myzou (talk) 11:12, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
FYI Especially in light of the Sun/Moon name/theme, this silvery spherical bunny pokémon is clearly a reference to the moon rabbit and thus the likely game mascot for Pokémon Moon. (So yes, those are most probably supposed to be crescent moons.) Twincast (talk) 22:26, 6 March 2016 (UTC)
Magearna is a Mythical Pokemon, which have never once been a game mascot. So don't count on it. And even then, it's purely speculation until we get confirmation. Ataro (talk) 22:46, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

Japanese -> English Name Trivia?

I know trivia is usually avoided until more info is known, but unless I'm overlooking one, Magearna is the only mythical pokemon to have the English name differ from the Japanese name. Isn't that a rather notable thing? Myzou (talk) 11:12, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

It's actually the same. Gia = Gear, and the rest isn't changed at all. :|b Dragoness (talk) 15:44, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
Yeah, since katakana is used for words that are derived from another language (including English). Like in Citronic Gear (シトロニックギア; which is romanized character-by-character as Shitoronikku Gia). We don't do the romanizations of the separate characters, that's the secondary romanization system used here I believe. The official romanization used by the Japanese Pokémon Company is Magearna, because that's what they intended to spell. They're just limited to Japanese sounds, so that's where "gia" is from. It's a close Japanese estimate to the English word, since it's an English word that has been adapted for use in the Japanese language to mean the same thing as its English equivalent. - HyruleWarrior (talk) 19:31, 16 February 2016 (UTC)

Date

February 14, 2015? Mega Swampert (talk) 13:58, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

Type

I'm pretty sure Magiana is steel type. It's pretty obvious just by looking at it. Crum Mum 00:36, 16 February 2016 (UTC)

We will not add speculation in the mainspace, however likely or reasonable it may seem. Tiddlywinks (talk) 00:45, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
Latest issue of corocoro says that it's steel/fairy. Pyritie (talk) 10:42, 12 April 2016 (UTC)

A request…

Can someone please change It was leaked in the March issue of [[CoroCoro]] released on February 10, 2016, and it was officially revealed on February 14, 2016. to It was the first [[Generation VII]] Pokémon to be revealed to the public, in February 2016. for me? SaturnMario, his talk and his contributions 18:28, 26 February 2016 (UTC)

No, we can't. It still hasn't officially been announced that Magearna is a Generation 7 Pokémon (though I still hope that it is done as early as possible). So sorry, until official statement, it remains the way it is.Harryghost (talk) 23:19, 26 February 2016 (UTC)
@Harryghost - It seems an admin has already added it though.--HyruleWarrior (talk) 23:24, 26 February 2016 (UTC)

Sorry, my bad! I was absolutely oblivious of the Pokémon Sun and Moon confirmation thing when I wrote the comment. So, sorry! Harryghost (talk) 09:36, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

Are we sure that Magearna will be mythical?

Nobody has yet leaked its stats or egg groups. sumwun (talk) 04:03, 26 March 2016 (UTC)

The official site explicitly states that it is Mythical. --Abcboy (talk) 04:09, 26 March 2016 (UTC)

Origin

Isn't Magearna also based on the moon rabbit? Christian (talk) 19:34, 7 May 2016 (UTC)

We know very little about it, so it's hard to say. So far, nothing has connected it to the moon. Ataro (talk) 21:30, 7 May 2016 (UTC)

Flowers

There appears to be a connection between Magearna and artificial blossoms, presumably generated from/with its/her hands, according to the movie trailer (and promotional artwork in merchandice on eBay). I am monitoring closely to see if this is a Magearna trait. Jaylaw (talk) 21:03, 17 May 2016 (UTC)

You're right. Its signature move is Fleur Cannon, and "fleur" is French for "flower". Can someone update the page with Fleur Cannon? DecafSnorlax (talk) 21:46, 15 June 2016 (UTC)

Russian name

Could someone please add this line to the In other languages section?

|ru=Магирна Magirna|Transcription of English name

--Raltseye 17:11, 14 June 2016 (UTC)

Karakuri Puppet?

Do we have any evidence to believe Magearna is based off of a karakuri puppet? While I would agree that it is likely based off of historical automatons, I would argue that Leonardo da Vinci's robot[1] has more evidence as a source of inspiration. Leonardo da Vinci lived 500 years ago, just as Magearna's creator did, and could very easily be described as a "scientist of uncommon genius". Also, in this trailer[2] for the Magearna movie, Magearna's creator appears remarkably similar to da Vinci and has a studio that appears to be inspired by his.

As a comparison, karakuri puppets were originally made in the 17th to 19th centuries, placing them at least 50 years after Leonardo's robot, and were most famously known for being made by Tanaka Hisashige, who wasn't born until 1799. Paᗧ•••ck 03:00, 18 July 2016 (UTC)