Talk:M10

Release Date?

Is It True That The Movie Is Going To Be Released In Japan On The 14th July 2007? I Saw This Date On The Japanese Trailer, But I'm Not Sure If I Should Put This On The Page. Tesh!

When will it be released in America? KPF 22:50, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

Next Year. That's all I can tell you. Pokemaniac102

July 2008Pokemaniac102 17:03, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Cleanup, oversize tags

I added these tags because 1) this article is way too huge and needs to be cut down (especially the plot section), and 2) there are serious prose problems (also in the plot section). Morgan695 05:46, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Do we still need these tags? I took bladed weaponry to the plot summary ages back. - Cassius335 18:26, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Robert?

I noticed that several of the voice actors have the name "Robert" next to them in small text. What does that mean? Just curious. --☆ケンジガール 04:23, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Now I'm getting curious...what the heck does Robert mean!? KPF 17:01, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

No one knows so ill take it off.Pokemaniac102 17:03, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Spoilers

This article really needs a spoiler warning. I mean, the whole story is told on this page!--Dawnfan47 20:33, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Either that or someone takes a chainsaw to that summary... Cassius335 22:33, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

Soundtrack

I think all the music from the movie should be listed here. Porygon-Z 19:35, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Maybe an actual article for the soundtrack would be better. --FabuVinny ^T-C-S 19:43, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Maybe, shall I create it? If so what should I call it? Porygon-Z 02:28, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Either something like "Dialga vs. Palkia vs. Darkrai soundtrack" or the album's official name, "10th Anniversary Gekijōban Pocket Monsters Diamond & Pearl Dialga VS Palkia VS Darkrai MUSIC COLLECTION", I'd assume.--Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 05:04, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

How about "10th movie soundtrack" as a redirect? Cassius335 10:22, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Sounds good, I'll do it later tonight. I can't type/translate/read Japanese though so I'll need some help. Porygon-Z 19:51, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Oh, good! Turns out I translated all the tracks myself once I downloaded it...--Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 00:01, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Great! Sorry I couldn't do it tonight...I'm only getting home now (11:00) and now I gotta go to bed. I'll do it tomorrow when come home from school. Porygon-Z 02:25, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Ok I did all the stuff I can do. Made redirects too. 10th Anniversary Movie Pocket Monsters Diamond & Pearl: Dialga vs. Palkia vs. Darkrai Music Collection. Porygon-Z 19:36, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

wow....that's a long title.....--Theryguy512 21:11, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

"The Rise of Darkrai"?

A French magazine, Nintendo Mag, listed this movie as Pokémon: The Raise Of Darkrai, and PokémonEspace revealed the title as Pokémon 10: Rise of Darkrai... is this the real US name? - Lynn Shorelake 19:11, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Don't think so.. is it an official magazine? Tina ^δ♫ 19:21, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Well now it's offical! lol. --Theryguy512 23:45, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Offical NA release???

Wow! New update on Pokemon.com! Look [1]!It's gonna be soon.....--Theryguy512 22:35, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

IT'S CLOSE!

IT'S ALMOST HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I CAN'T WAIT TIL MARCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PL1223:47, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Hey! It's finally revealed!!!! go under movie --Theryguy512 23:52, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Theaters?

I was just watching Fried Dynamite on Cartoon Network ans Blake said that the movie was gonna be on TV on February 24, 2008!!! He also mentioned that it would be on Cartoon Network "months before it hits the theaters"!!!!!!!!!! YinYang1195 02:46, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

When?!^PokeManiac₁₀₂ 18:01, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Friday. YinYang

1195 06:15, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

No, No. Sadly, it's not coming out in theaters. Proof can be found on the Pokemon.com website: http://www.pokemon.com/#mailbag_02042008 . --Theryguy512 11:53, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

I hate that! What's wrong with putting a Pokémon Movie in theaters? I NEVER got a chance to see a Pokémon Movie in theaters (I only heard my cousins talk about it) and now, I (most likely) never will!!!!!!!!!! YinYang

1195 20:34, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Just how long IS the movie?

I'm confused. Wikipedia said that it was 128 minutes (unlikely story), but I don't think so, seeing that no Pokémon movie has spanned 2 hours. Could someone be a dear and check the length on the back of the DVD (if they have it)?

Best regards,

CosmosShipper

It's 91 mins, including credits and the picture bit at the end. - Cassius335 17:56, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

They were likely to mistake one hour for 100 minutes. Amateur editing. Optimatum^Talk|♊05:56 13 Mar 2008

Summary

Why was almost all of the summary removed?

--HoennMaster - February 11, 2008 8:29 PM (CST)

Because a summary is a very short and concise paragraph of the plot. That was like GAAAAHH!!!! That wasn't a summary. That was the whole thing.^PokeManiac₁₀₂ 02:56, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Exactly. The movies aren't like regular episodes. Their synopses can be put on one page (and are often either not there or have low quality...), while the movies take about three times the space. TTEchidna^G_SDS! 06:44, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Although that is true, the summary still goes on explaining the movie and then just cuts off, without a new paragraph wrapping up other details.

5th Gen?

In the movie at the end they played the music it made a big gold bird-thing. Then whats-his-face said "Its _______!" (yes I forgot the name) like it was a Pokémon. Maybe some sort of 5th gen? Any thoughts? CrystalLucario 22:20, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

It was just the name of the song and it wasnt a pokemon it was the space-time tower doing something to calm down dialga and palkia.Darkmaster0 21:42, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

That makes more sense.CrystalLucario 22:20, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Villain?

Anybody else think Dialga is more of the villain than both dialga nad palkis?I mean palkia was trying to hide from dialga and Dialga cracked palkia's pearl(or whatever that gem on its shoulder is).Darkmaster0 22:58, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

I was under the impression it was Palkia as Palkia was the first (seen) to attack, Ash spazed at it, and it decided to BRING the dimension to him to hide in. So I'm just guessing Dialga is just stronger. But that is my opinion. CrystalLucario 23:18, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

I agree with darkmaster0, I think Dialga is the villain. Dialga was the one always to attack while Palkia was tryin to hide. shinylucario 23:32, 25 February 2008 (UTC) I also agree. Palkia was just trying not to cause harm and protect itself, Darkrai was just trying to stop the fight (though endangering and hurting many others), but Dialga was the main antagonist. --Theryguy512 01:48, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

I figured it out Dialga is the main antagonist BUT Palkia is the semi-antagonist as he was accidentaly destroying everything. CrystalLucario 22:46, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Well it's sort of like Celebi when it was mind-controlled^PokeManiac₁₀₂ 22:58, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Maybe Movie 11 will clear it up... Crystal Lucario 01:47, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Both are at fault as both were fighting in the first place. =( Optimatum^Talk|♊05:56 13 Mar 2008

Dialga move?

In the movie, Dialga used a move that his head glows red then many bullets? shoot out. I'm just wondering, what move was that?

Yea, I saw that too. I don't know for sure, but I belive that it is AncientPower. --Theryguy512 21:41, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Draco Meteor. Sounds like the description. Optimatum^Talk|♊05:54 13 Mar 2008

Darkrai isn't a "true dragon", so it's not Draco Meteor. - Cassius335 11:33, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

LOOK AT IT!!! DIALGA!!! Optimatum^Talk|♊11:36 13 Mar 2008

Ah. My mistake. - Cassius335 11:38, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

So it's agreed that it's Draco Meteor, yes? Optimatum^Talk|♊11:39 13 Mar 2008

Yea, I guess so. It makes the most sense. --Theryguy512 00:22, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

I Will Be With You

In the credits of "The Rise of Darkrai" on CN, it was told that the ending song wouldn't have been "I Will Be With You" by Sarah Brightman, but "I'll Always Remember You" by Kirsten Price. Will it be true? Have PUSA renounced to pay Brightman for her song's rights? I thing this should be added to the Trivia.--Firempoleon 12:53, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Canon

Yes let's bring this up again. Why the hell wouldn't the movies be canon? Sure, no one makes any captures in them, nor does anything evolve, because that'd require for everyone to buy tickets or DVDs to see the event, instead of how it is on TV, which is free... well... kinda. Not CN since it's cable. If you say the movies aren't canon, you pretty much can say the filler isn't canon either, because nothing freaking happens and the events are never mentioned afterwards. TTEchidna 00:41, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

It'd probably help if events and characters from the movies actually showed up in the series, which hasn't happened since "Mewtwo Returns", except for the recent mentions of Aura. - Cassius335 11:47, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

The same can be said for just about any character of the day. And don't forget that LaRousse City became Drew's hometown. Plus, Dialga will be in the next movie.

The one issue I can see with canon is that this would become the start of Dawn losing streak rather than DP049. --FabuVinny ^{|Talk Page|} 01:28, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Not really. Looks like she actually got to the finals in this one. - Cassius335 10:22, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, and besides, even Main episodes can be contradicted. For example, in a certain episode, Ash and co. acted as though they never heard of the N1 grand prix DESPITE Ash winning that particular event, and loaning his Primeape to the 3rd place man. And also, for a much better example The Rubello contest made it seem as though Beautifly was never used in the Fallabor town contest prior, even IN the Japanese version, even though she DEFINITELY used it there.

Weedle Mchairybug 12:32, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Maurice?

I saw the English ending, and it showed a name, Joshua Swanson. I look him up and find his LinkedIn Profile.

This is a quote from it "*Lead Character Vocie of Maurice in upcoming "Pokemon" Cartoon Movie " Which one do you think "Maurice" is? Dai or Katsumi? Flaremaster 21:03, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

I guess that would be Katsumi. Cause Dai is definately voiced by Bill Rogers. --☆ケンジガール 21:21, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

So then who did Rich voice if it wasn't Katsumi?, Baron Alberto?Flaremaster 21:24, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Maybe. I don't know. I thought it was Rich. Man, I can't wait for the DVD to come in the mail so I can finally straighten this out. --☆ケンジガール 21:31, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Ending's right here [2]Flaremaster 21:33, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Well that just gave me more questions than answers. Who are all these people? Are they the same actors with different names? --☆ケンジガール 21:46, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Alicia's English VA

There seems to be some confusion regarding Alicia, Alice's grandmonther, and who her voice actress is. I'm absolutely positive that it's Kayzie Rogers, who's recently rejoined the PUSA cast, despite not being credited in this movie. There have been cases where some of the VAs weren't credited in a film and yet were still credited here on Bulbapedia. Citing an example, Destiny Deoxys only listed the core cast as listed in the TV episodes in its credits, leaving out Mike Pollock as the narrator, Tara Jayne/Sands as Tory, Sean Schemmel as Prof. Lund, Lisa Ortiz as Rebecca, etc. And yet we've granted it as fact that they did in fact voice those characters despite not being credited. Certainly mistakes can and will be made, but I think it's necessary to utilize research and common sense as much as actual evidence. After all, Emily Williams wasn't credited by that name in the credits, and yet it's obvious it's her voicing Infernape's trainer. If it's obvious Kayzie Rogers voiced Alicia as well as her other creature roles, even if not credited, what should be done? Shift 17:57, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

AHHHH!!!

Where did it go and how can we get it back?!?!?!? ^Moldy_Orange 15:10, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Trivia errors?

"It starts of with a fleeing Mew that is attacked by a Mewtwo which uses Shadow Ball, only to be stopped by Mew by absorbing the attack with a shield (Mewtwo Strikes Back)." It actually looks like a Lugia flies in and absorbs it with...Mew's pink shield (instead of the clear one that Lugia uses in the second movie).Cynicalmew 06:29, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

I've seen the movie and the trivia is correct--CoolPikachu! 06:31, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Ive also seen the movie and it is indeed the lugia that stops the attack not mew. The trivia does need to be edited.Sevenofniner 10:46, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Synopsis

Does anybody else think that we should expand the synopsis? It kind of sounds like what would be on the back of the DVD case. Also because the trivia section is larger than the actual story of the movie. R.A. Hunter B. 03:16, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Trivia problem

This is one of the few movies without a human antagonist. The two others are Destiny Deoxys and Lucario and the Mystery of Mew ummmm hows about movie 1? is this trivia really notable/ worth it? --D i o n 2 4 08:54, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

Giovanni. --ケンジのガール 09:17, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

Ok thanks and sorry bout that --D i o n 2 4 10:27, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

Synopsis problem

It's written like an advertisement (from my point of view) and it seems like it was written before the movie actually came out. --DialgaRULES 01:59, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Exactly what I said two subjects ago. R.A. Hunter B. 17:34, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Ho-oH trivia

It says that this is the first movie to have a Ho-oH appear. This is wrong because Ho-oH appears in Lucario and the mystery of mew near the beginning. Later in the movie mew is transformed as a Ho-oH as well but this dosn't mean that it was mew at the beginning of the movie (unless i'm mistaken and it does show mew transforming at the beginning)-- D558 06:58, 2 June 2009 (UTC)D558

An actual Ho-Oh, not a Pokémon transformed into a Ho-Oh.--ForceFire 07:00, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

OK yes I got that BUT is it confirmed that the Ho-oh at the beginning of Lucario and the mystery of mew that it WAS mew? Did it show mew transforming into that Ho-Oh? that was my point from the start, at the BEGINNING of Lucario and the Mystery of mew (not later when shown summoned to the canyon by Sir Auron) a Ho-oh was seen flying out of a canyon was it confirmed that that was mew and not a real Ho-oh? -- D558

I have now taken that bit of False trivia out -- D558 03:30, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

I'm extremely sure it shows the transformation, and yes, we're talking about the Lucario movie. We wouldn't be shooting you down without knowing what we were talking about.—Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 03:54, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Just watched it... In just the first few minutes right after the movie intro speech in Lucario and the Mystery of Mew A Ho-oh flies out of the mist near the tree. Even in the distant fog it is still a soaring bird shape right up until it leaves the screen. Always Ho-oh, never shown that it is mew. I'm Right! Mew far later in the movie being a Ho-oh doesn't prove in any way that the pokemon shown flying out of the Tree's crater is mew no more than anyone can prove that Ash's Pikachu in the balloon while entering the city is Pikachu and not mew. Lawyered. -- D558 04:13, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Uh, by your logic, the Ho-Oh in Darkrai could be a Mew because it could have transformed before it came on-screen. I think most people are going to and were meant to assume that if a Ho-Oh leaves the Tree then comes back and turns into Mew, it's the same animal.—Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 05:07, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

No... it's your logic that dictates that just because mew was transformed into that pokemon later in the movie means that any pokemon shown before can't be trusted to be real. (ok admittedly my wording with the pikachu thing was confusing, I meant to make it seem that if u assume the Ho-oh is mew why not pikachu in some minor scenes)-- D558 14:59, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

But guess what? Which one lives in the Tree? Mew. R.A. Hunter Blade 21:21, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Still this site is so overcautious on issues like the sex of a pokemon despite implied situations, than I don't think assumptions like the one "The Ho-oh was definably mew at the beginning of the movie (LatMoM)" shouldn't be made either. Ho-oH could also live at the tree as well, mew was not the soul resident. -- D558 21:45, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

I don't see any hope in getting the point across to you. The last thing I'll say on this is that Mew is known to take the form of Ho-oh. The movies tend to keep things like that consistent. R.A. Hunter Blade 03:16, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Continuity Confirmation

The trivia section say this is the first movie to be canonized by events in the series. This is not the case. In the episode The Mystery is History, Ash says (in the English dub, at least) he recognizes a Lugia from his time in the Orange Islands. The only Lugia he saw in the Orange Islands was the one in The Power of One.Legionaireb 14:55, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

And in The Battle of the Badge, the reason Giovanni leaves is because of Mewtwo escaping, leading to the events of the first movie. --エルレイド 15:01, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

I just looked again, and it says the movie, not a movie. --エルレイド 15:06, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Good point. Maybe the line should be changed to 'This' movie, to make it clearer. Legionaireb 18:51, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

US Rating

When did this movie receive a PG rating in the United States? It is not listed on MPAA.org, and numerous movie sites like Netflix, as well as the back of the box, state that it is not rated (NR). Cat333Pokémon 07:01, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

After Which Epizode This Movie Belongs...

I'd say that this movie belongs after Top-Down Training! and not before. In Top-Down Training! Ash does not recognize Dialga and Palkia whereas in the movie he does. It is because Cynthia tells him about them in Top-Down Training! --Joxer 11:13, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

That's only in the dub. In the Japan, that episode came out one week after the movie was released. --FabuVinny ^{|Talk Page|} 13:34, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

Besides, we've had movies have their dub debuts at nonsensical points before. A few examples:

• The first movie's dubbed premiere was between the original dub airdates of EP076 and EP077--during Ash's Indigo Plateau league challenge.
• In the second movie, Ash had already regained Charizard's trust--but the dub episode where the exact point of it happened wouldn't air dubbed for more than a month, and even then episodes were airing out of sequence.
• Ash had Totodile in the third movie, but the capture episode wouldn't be for another month after the movie's dub premiere. Even then, there was still some episode reordering around that timeframe, involving Ash using Totodile in Noctowl's capture episode, but that episode airing before Totodile's capture episode in the dub.
• The fourth movie takes place in clearly landlocked areas and during the Johto League Champions arc, but by the time the movie premiered dubbed, the gang was in the Whirl Islands, not to mention the next arc in line, and Misty had a Corsola.
• Nothing odd about where the fifth movie premiered dubbed, given Ash didn't show his badges in the movie and nothing else major took place in the differing episodes...
• Jirachi Wish Maker, in a rarity, actually makes more sense where it premiered dubbed. The original Japanese debut was in the middle of episodes that took place in Slateport City, whereas the gang had left Slateport when the movie premiered dubbed. Combine that with the fact that May didn't show a ribbon in the movie...
• May's Bulbasaur appeared in Destiny Deoxys, which had its dub debut on television in January 2005, but Bulbasaur's capture episode wasn't aired dubbed until April of that year.
• Again, nothing odd about where Lucario and the Mystery of Mew premiered dubbed, despite being the last thing 4Kids-handled to debut. No symbol and no ribbon were shown in the movie, nothing else major took place in the differing episodes...
• Pokémon Ranger and the Temple of the Sea was the last thing Generation III-related to air dubbed--even after May and Max had returned home and Ash had left for Sinnoh.
• Another oddity about The Rise of Darkrai--a certain Chimchar was still firmly Paul's at the point where it debuted in Japanese, yet when the movie first aired dubbed, it now belonged to Ash.
• Nothing odd about where Giratina and the Sky Warrior premiered dubbed. Nothing major between the differing episodes, Dawn's next ribbon wouldn't be until the second episode after the movie premiered dubbed...
• Arceus and the Jewel of Life spoiled the aformentioned Chimchar's evolution to Australian audiences. However, nothing odd happened from the American standpoint, as the event spoiled for Australian audiences happened before the American debut, and the differing episodes in the American case were all filler...

So, as one can tell, the fact that the movies premiere dubbed at differing points than in the original can create oddities isn't really anything weird at all. --Shiningpikablu252 18:14, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

Error Errors

I think the bit about aipom is wrong, remember it was on the outside of the tower. Sorry if I was wrong. --KelsUsedSplash 23:18, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

Palkia's cry

in the film Palkia's cry is similar to a Boga's in Star Wars 3 (the thing Obi Wan rides when battling General Grievous) in fact it could even be the same, could that be noted as some trivia? Azure42 17:09, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

Those is something brought up a lot. It's mentioned on the movie Palkia's page.^★Jo the Marten^★ ಠ_ಠ 17:23, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

er...at least it WAS...^★Jo the Marten^★ ಠ_ಠ 17:26, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

Pokemon?

Can't we have a more detailed way of saying which pokemon there were in the movie instead of JUST debuts? The other D/P/P movies have them? User:Emeraldben