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== Name ==
== Name ==


I'm surprised that this hasn't been named '''Sir Aaron's Lucario''', seeing as it is his Pokémon. But is ownership lost after the trainer dies? But now they're both dead, isn't Lucario Sir Aaron's Pokémon once more? Like in the ending where they eat chocolate? [[User:Tesh|<span style="color:#B7AD96;">'''TESHIGIGAS'''</span>]] <sup>[[Image:Ani486MS.gif|{{{2|486}}}]]</sup> 16:30, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
I'm surprised that this hasn't been named '''Sir Aaron's Lucario''', seeing as it is his Pokémon. But is ownership lost after the trainer dies? But now they're both dead, isn't Lucario Sir Aaron's Pokémon once more? Like in the ending where they eat chocolate? [[User:Tesh|<span style="color:#B7AD96;">'''TESHIGIGAS'''</span>]] 16:30, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
:I'm guessing the reason it was named Lucario (anime) is because although it belonged to Sir Aaron, it wasn't really shown under his ownership except for in flashbacks. Also, Bulbapedia as a rule that we don't name Pokémon articles after characters of the day. Now, while Sir Aaron isn't technically a character of the day, perhaps it was the same sort of reasoning in naming the article the way it was named. That, and the fact that it's consistent with the other major Pokémon characters in movies (ie, {{an|Jirachi}}, {{an|Manaphy}}, {{an|Mewtwo}}, {{an|Latios}}, {{an|Latias}}). Personally, I think it's fine the way it is. --[[User:PAK Man|PAK Man]] <sup>[[User talk:PAK Man|Talk]]</sup> 17:20, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
:I'm guessing the reason it was named Lucario (anime) is because although it belonged to Sir Aaron, it wasn't really shown under his ownership except for in flashbacks. Also, Bulbapedia as a rule that we don't name Pokémon articles after characters of the day. Now, while Sir Aaron isn't technically a character of the day, perhaps it was the same sort of reasoning in naming the article the way it was named. That, and the fact that it's consistent with the other major Pokémon characters in movies (ie, {{OBP|Jirachi|M06}}, {{an|Manaphy}}, {{an|Mewtwo}}, {{an|Latios}}, {{an|Latias}}). Personally, I think it's fine the way it is. --[[User:PAK Man|PAK Man]] <sup>[[User talk:PAK Man|Talk]]</sup> 17:20, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
::I just got curious, but now I know follows a pattern. Thanks anyway. [[User:Tesh|<span style="color:#B7AD96;">'''TESHIGIGAS'''</span>]] <sup>[[Image:Ani486MS.gif|{{{2|486}}}]]</sup> 17:22, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
::I just got curious, but now I know follows a pattern. Thanks anyway. [[User:Tesh|<span style="color:#B7AD96;">'''TESHIGIGAS'''</span>]] 17:22, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
:::Lucario is notable enough for an article - that isn't an issue and doesn't affect the naming.  The name is such because Lucario was an apprentice of Aaron rather than actually owned by him.  (If Ash hypothetically trained under Riley, he wouldn't become Riley's Ash.) --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]]</sup> 17:35, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
:::Lucario is notable enough for an article - that isn't an issue and doesn't affect the naming.  The name is such because Lucario was an apprentice of Aaron rather than actually owned by him.  (If Ash hypothetically trained under Riley, he wouldn't become Riley's Ash.) --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]]</sup> 17:35, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
::::That would be funny to see XD. [[User:Tesh|<span style="color:#B7AD96;">'''TESHIGIGAS'''</span>]] <sup>[[Image:Ani486MS.gif|{{{2|486}}}]]</sup> 17:36, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
::::That would be funny to see XD. [[User:Tesh|<span style="color:#B7AD96;">'''TESHIGIGAS'''</span>]] 17:36, 6 March 2008 (UTC)


==SPOILERS==
==SPOILERS==
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Yes, but there are people who actually beleive that lucario did not die.  Just as it never stated pikacu's gender, nobody ever said that he died.  To us it looked more like it and Aaron were absorbed into the tree itself.--[[user:Mtn otter|Mtn otter]] We are the Void 18:52, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
Yes, but there are people who actually beleive that lucario did not die.  Just as it never stated pikacu's gender, nobody ever said that he died.  To us it looked more like it and Aaron were absorbed into the tree itself.--[[user:Mtn otter|Mtn otter]] We are the Void 18:52, 13 October 2009 (UTC)


For instance, I do beleive Lucario is not dead, and neither is Aaron: in the credits, they were shown not very far away from Cameran Palace, and it was foggy, so it must have been in their own time (even though they were eating chocolate). I think, when Lucario vanished the aura of Aaron and Lucario was absorbed by the tree and they were transported to the past. --[[User:Prospekt|Prospekt]] 21:41, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
For instance, I do believe Lucario is not dead, and neither is Aaron: in the credits, they were shown not very far away from Cameran Palace, and it was foggy, so it must have been in their own time (even though they were eating chocolate). I think, when Lucario vanished the aura of Aaron and Lucario was absorbed by the tree and they were transported to the past. --[[User:Prospekt|Prospekt]] 21:41, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
:That's a huge amount of speculation. Aaron and Lucario both gave up their Aura, and Aura is life energy. Without any life energy, something dies. Instead of being sent back in time, the foggy area in the credits is much mor elikely to be the Pokémon world's afterlife.[[User:Reign|Reign]] 06:51, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
 
:That could be true, but it's a bit strange that there was a palace in the 'afterlife' which was exactly like the Cameran Palace. Moreover, the anime never shows anything like afterlife. Still, it could be the afterlife. Or it may not. We will never know. - [[User:Vargamate|Vargamate]] 18:14, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
 
== Moves Pic ==
 
Methinks the Moves pic needs to be resized. --[[User:Kimori-Hinoarashi|i herd u liek Treakos?]] 01:01, 12 February 2010 (UTC) [[User:Kimori-Hinoarashi|Kimori-]][[User talk:Kimori-Hinoarashi|Hinoarashi]]
 
== Gender ==
 
This page has Lucario as male, but the {{p|Lucario|Pokemon page}} refers to Lucario as '''her''', which, if any, is correct? [[User:Vuvuzela2010|Vuvuzela2010]] 16:38, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

Revision as of 00:26, 7 May 2012

Name

I'm surprised that this hasn't been named Sir Aaron's Lucario, seeing as it is his Pokémon. But is ownership lost after the trainer dies? But now they're both dead, isn't Lucario Sir Aaron's Pokémon once more? Like in the ending where they eat chocolate? TESHIGIGAS 16:30, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

I'm guessing the reason it was named Lucario (anime) is because although it belonged to Sir Aaron, it wasn't really shown under his ownership except for in flashbacks. Also, Bulbapedia as a rule that we don't name Pokémon articles after characters of the day. Now, while Sir Aaron isn't technically a character of the day, perhaps it was the same sort of reasoning in naming the article the way it was named. That, and the fact that it's consistent with the other major Pokémon characters in movies (ie, Jirachi, Manaphy, Mewtwo, Latios, Latias). Personally, I think it's fine the way it is. --PAK Man Talk 17:20, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
I just got curious, but now I know follows a pattern. Thanks anyway. TESHIGIGAS 17:22, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
Lucario is notable enough for an article - that isn't an issue and doesn't affect the naming. The name is such because Lucario was an apprentice of Aaron rather than actually owned by him. (If Ash hypothetically trained under Riley, he wouldn't become Riley's Ash.) --FabuVinny T-C-S 17:35, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
That would be funny to see XD. TESHIGIGAS 17:36, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

SPOILERS

Someone should really put spoiler tags here. TorchicBlaziken (talk) 19:18, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Deceased

WE DON'T KNOW THAT LUCARIO DIED. If that was the case, then why would we see Lucario and Aaron in the end credits? Not a vision of the past, for they were eating chocolate. Not Heaven, because Pokémon doesn't bring that sort of thing into play. When you die, you don't become a bunch of light and just vanish. I say it's more like suspended animation. Kiryu 01:59, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Sadly, going either way requires speculation. How do you know there is no Poké-Heaven? Maybe they they ghosts when eating the chocolate. Or maybe you're right. Who knows for sure? The Dark Fiddler - 10% Satisfaction Guaranteed! 02:03, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, Kidd did say Sir Aaron was in suspended animation.--Starlight_the_ampharos 22:57, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
From what i've heard, unconfirmed material shouldn't be on here. Also from what i've heard, lucario being deceased is not confirmed. Genders that aren't confirmed aren't allowed here, why is everything else? (GT4GTR 12:11, 10 August 2009 (UTC))
Anyone? Should it be changed because it's uncomfirmed? (GT4GTR 01:28, 12 September 2009 (UTC))
Why not change it to "deceased(uncomfirmed)"?--Mtn otter We are the Void 13:13, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
Are you kidding? "deceased (unconfirmed)" will be a super bad title. --♫♪Adyniz♪♫ 14:38, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
There is no inarguable proof that this lucario actually died, therefore, unless we get an interview with one of the writers of the movie, it is unconfirmed. Besides, until the togepi episode came out, Ash's pikachu's gender was "male (confirmed in dub olnly)", which is an even worse entry.--Mtn otter We are the Void 17:07, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
Not really. We had to have that because there are people who actually believed that Pikachu was female. And they would say that because he was only called "he" in the dub, it wasn't official since the dub normally has mistakes. R.A. Hunter Blade 19:10, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

Yes, but there are people who actually beleive that lucario did not die. Just as it never stated pikacu's gender, nobody ever said that he died. To us it looked more like it and Aaron were absorbed into the tree itself.--Mtn otter We are the Void 18:52, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

For instance, I do believe Lucario is not dead, and neither is Aaron: in the credits, they were shown not very far away from Cameran Palace, and it was foggy, so it must have been in their own time (even though they were eating chocolate). I think, when Lucario vanished the aura of Aaron and Lucario was absorbed by the tree and they were transported to the past. --Prospekt 21:41, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

That's a huge amount of speculation. Aaron and Lucario both gave up their Aura, and Aura is life energy. Without any life energy, something dies. Instead of being sent back in time, the foggy area in the credits is much mor elikely to be the Pokémon world's afterlife.Reign 06:51, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
That could be true, but it's a bit strange that there was a palace in the 'afterlife' which was exactly like the Cameran Palace. Moreover, the anime never shows anything like afterlife. Still, it could be the afterlife. Or it may not. We will never know. - Vargamate 18:14, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Moves Pic

Methinks the Moves pic needs to be resized. --i herd u liek Treakos? 01:01, 12 February 2010 (UTC) Kimori-Hinoarashi

Gender

This page has Lucario as male, but the Pokemon page refers to Lucario as her, which, if any, is correct? Vuvuzela2010 16:38, 23 November 2010 (UTC)