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:Oh, of course. Now I can't change [[Kouya]] to [[Kōya]] because the page is freakin' protected. Please unprotect it, his dub name is already revealed. There is no further reason to have it protected. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 10:14, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
:Oh, of course. Now I can't change [[Kouya]] to [[Kōya]] because the page is freakin' protected. Please unprotect it, his dub name is already revealed. There is no further reason to have it protected. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 10:14, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
== Hmmm. ==
Every image on this page features him with his hand on his chin except for the Pt sprite. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#DAA520">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#C0C0C0">chidna</span>]]''' 19:49, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
Then?
Do you want different images for the article?
Just asking.
--<span style="color:#00DD00">♫♪</span>[[User:Adyniz|<span style="color:#FF7327;">'''Ady'''</span>]][[User talk:Adyniz|<span style="color:#FF7327;">'''niz'''</span>]]<span style="color:#00DD00">♪♫</span> 09:03, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
:So..... what 'bout it, is it bugging you?--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#DAA520">'''F'''</span>]][[Ho-Oh (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#DAA520">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#C0C0C0">'''F'''</span>]][[Lugia (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C0C0C0">ire</span>]] 09:05, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
::Only so much that I fixed the Pt opening sprite:
http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/8989/lookersprite.png
'''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#DAA520">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#C0C0C0">chidna</span>]]''' 05:33, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
:::And I do mean '''''let's find a different image from Pocket Monsters DP besides him in his underwear'''''. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 18:27, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
== Now here's a question. ==
{{wp|Koichi Zenigata|Homage}}? Especially considering what Looker's done in the anime? '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#DAA520">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#C0C0C0">chidna</span>]]''' 03:16, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
Woo! Looker is looking like an identical twin brother (except the face of his shape) of Koichi Zenigata.
Same uniform + same job.
Weird !!!
--<span style="color:#00DD00">♫♪</span>[[User:Adyniz|<span style="color:#FF7327;">'''Ady'''</span>]][[User talk:Adyniz|<span style="color:#FF7327;">'''niz'''</span>]]<span style="color:#00DD00">♪♫</span> 06:12, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
Its also possible that he may be a homage to {{wp|The Tenth Doctor|The Tenth Doctor}}. I had a little write up of why, but someone deleted it (and I would guess they've never seen Doctor Who, so they just don't get it. I think the similarities are just as worthy of a mention in the Trivia section. Anyway, here is what I had wrote"'' "Some fans also speculate that Looker is based on [http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Tenth_Doctor The Tenth Doctor], a fictional character from the British Sci-Fi, [http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Doctor_Who Doctor Who]. Looker is compared to The Doctor due to having a similar outfit to The Doctor's usual attire, having a similar hair style, and being involved with a plot relating to time travel, alternate dimensions, and outer space; which are heavy themes in Doctor Who. At no point in the game is Looker seen battling, which may be reference to The Doctor's dislike of fighting."'' --[[User:Dojorkan|Dojorkan]] 21:41, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
*I would have written it off as coincidence, until a minor character in ''The End of Time Part 1'' says that The Doctor is "a bit of a looker". It's impossible to say either way, since THAT could also be a coincidence. - [[User:Nebula|Nebula]] 03:09, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
::Apparently the bit about Looker being a possible Doctor Who reference has been taken out again... for being an "opinion", in that case, how come the Zenigata bit hasn't been removed? [[User:Dojorkan|Dojorkan]] 03:13, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
:::Can I bring this up again? Because I agree with Dojorkan. He is very similar to both characters, and both parts are opinions, none of them confirmed or denied. So why should Koichi be listed and not the Doctor? Unless there's something I'm missing? --[[User:Darach-bcv|Darach-bcv]] 16:03, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
== He speaks with odd grammatical constructs, implying that he is not a native speaker of the national language.  ==
Is this true? Appropriate Japanese is spoken in a Original Japanese version. [[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 12:30, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
:In English, his sentences do sound a little bit unnatural. I didn't notice at first either, but when I did the [[Stark Mountain]] storyline I noticed it much more. He may actually speak with a normal sentence structure in Black and White as it is supposedly set it another country. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#444444">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#C3C3C3">'''Monster'''</span>]] 12:33, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
::But he spoke normally in the anime. It's [[User:Turtwig A|Turtwig A]]! [[User talk:Turtwig A|My talk]] or [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|wiki edits]] 12:34, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
:::Thank you for the explanation. [[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 12:46, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
==Return in the anime==
http://sunyshore.com/scrap/bwhandsome2.jpg
[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] 12:46, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
== Generation I ==
On the S.S. Anne in Red/Blue, a man says that he's a Global Police Agent.  Can I add this as an interesting piece of trivia?  ----'''[[User:Zewis29|<span style="color:green;">Zewis</span>]] [[User talk:Zewis29|<span style="color:blue;">(29)</span>]]''' 17:17, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
:See [[International Police]]. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 13:47, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
::I actually saw that, but not until after I posted this on here.  Thanks anyway, though, and I guess we shouldn't add it.  ----'''[[User:Zewis29|<span style="color:green;">Zewis</span>]] [[User talk:Zewis29|<span style="color:blue;">(29)</span>]]''' 21:21, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
== Code Name ==
I'm pretty sure that in the Diamond and Pearl Adventure! manga, his two names (Looker/Hansom) both apply to him, as one is a code name. Can someone verify this? [[User:Pringles|Pringles]] 02:43, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
:Can anyone answer this? -- [[User:Pringles|Pringles]] 01:13, 24 August 2012 (UTC)
== Pokemon's death? ==
I just finished the story with him in X and Y, and it seems that his Croagunk has since passed? Or at least gone missing, but I'm pretty sure it was heavily implied to be dead. Its mentioned in 2 or 3 of the 5 missions with him, as well as being present in a photo with him (described as a blue pokemon... maybe the name is revealed if you've got croagunk in your pokedex?). Regardless, this should be added to his page, no? [[User:LordSchmee|LordSchmee]] ([[User talk:LordSchmee|talk]]) 08:55, 26 October 2013 (UTC)
:I saw too. According to Emma, "his Pokémon didn't make it from their last mission" or some dialogue like that. RIP Croagunk. [[User:LurKasumi|LurKasumi]] ([[User talk:LurKasumi|talk]]) 14:15, 26 October 2013 (UTC)
== Alternate Japanese name ==
In the English language X and Y, the Tourist calls him ルッカー in Japanese. Not sure where to put this name though. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 11:47, 21 November 2013 (UTC)
:Oh, and in the Japanese version (in which the Tourist speaks English), he is called Handsome. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 13:57, 21 November 2013 (UTC)
== Origin: The 10th Doctor ==
I wish to bring up this topic on the origin of Looker, as I believe that this theory has quite a few valid points and believed by quite a few people. As I wrote in the edit, Looker shares many qualities to David Tennant's Doctor. They both share a very similar attire, their profile's look almost identical having the same hairstyle and even eye color. They both believe violence is never the best option, and Looker's International Police badge (from the anime) could very easily be Psychic paper. Looker owns a Croagunk, which matches the color of The Doctor's TARDIS. Lastly, David Tennant's Doctor was first shown on Television in 2005, Platinum being released  However, that the current 'Character Origin' is still a speculation. So why doesn't this theory, of which I believe I have given enough proof, not allowed to exist on a community-driven board. As the Actual origin has not been announced by any Nintendo/Game Freak official, why can't this theory hold the same weight? So, I am asking any staff member, please re-consider removing this part of the character Origin. {{unsigned|Sharmasker}}
:First of all, Looker's Pokémon sharing the same colors as the TARDIS is a bit far-fetched, as is the Psychic paper idea. Second, the character origin on the page is much more plausible, and states exactly why Koichi Zenigata might be an inspiration for Looker. It certainly makes much more sense than a British sci-fi television show that's not even about a detective. At least that's what I think. We should probably get a few more opinions on this. But I would say this isn't really a valid theory. [[User:KyuremsIceBlade|<span style="color:#848A8D">'''''KYUREM'S''''']]</span> [[User talk:KyuremsIceBlade|<span style="color:#6890F0">'''''ICE''''']]</span> [[Special:Contributions/KyuremsIceBlade|<span style="color:#424B50">'''''BLADE''''']]</span> 17:58, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
== Quote context ==
In regards to the content that is under [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Looker&diff=2248531&oldid=2248486 some debate], let me say this:
Quotes from a multi-sided conversation&mdash;as happens not infrequently on this site&mdash;very often quickly become meaningless without the context of the rest of the conversation. I added context here because I was getting those quotes and making the X/Y section. It's not done elsewhere because I haven't done that or tried to fix it up elsewhere/everywhere (except for a few places, like some ORAS demo quotes that I also added), because that's a huge job that I'm not quite up to dedicating myself wholly to. But that doesn't change the fact that I firmly believe it is the way things ''should'' be.
Without context, it becomes difficult (or even impossible at times) to understand why a character is saying what they are; and I think you ''should'' be able to understand that. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 08:50, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

Revision as of 08:50, 12 February 2015

Battle

When is he battled? --Maxim 13:49, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
He is not battled. TorchicBlaziken (talk) 21:12, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Level

How do you know the level? TorchicBlaziken (talk) 21:12, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Class

Isn't he a GLOBAL POLICE Agent, like the one on the S.S. Anne in Generation I? The class is clearly mentioned, just as CHIEF and POKéMON PROF. are. Satosuke 13:49, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

English Release

Should we change the name of the article to Looker or is it too early since soon information on the English Pokémon Platinum is announced? Same with Pluto and the Torn World? -- Clarky13 10:44, 9 December 2008 (UTC

The names from Circuit City may not be correct, so we should stick with the Japanese info. Protected. - Kogoro | Talk to me - 10:53, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
Well, since the Pokemon Platinum page uses the boxart, and the Shaymin page mentions the PurpleKecleon fraud, I find it suitable to at least MENTION the Circuit City fresco. TorchicBlaziken (talkedits) 20:45, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
This better not be another fraud again. I'm so sick of those -- Clarky13 21:03, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

Trivia

shoul we put trivia on looker ....--Bakunawa 07:38, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Don't you think

Don't you think that having the page protected UNTIL THE RELEASE OF PLATINUM IN US is a bit over the top? --Maxim 12:26, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Not really...it's not like it protected until after Platinum is released...what else is there to say anyway? -Sketch 12:43, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
It is. 22 March. Can you read? --Maxim 12:52, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
No, I mean, it's not like this is staying protected long after it's released. Just wait another month...and 22 days. -Sketch 12:55, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
Oh, so what if his English name is revealed by OFFICIAL sources? We won't believe it and not move the page until the game's released, or an admin will do it? I think there's no need to have the page protected. Just because someone may move the page? Pfft. Then revert it and ban him, but not reduce's Bulbapedia functionality by protecting pages for every mere reason. Really, there's ALWAYS something to correct/add/change in the pages, believe me. --Maxim 12:59, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
Just wait for the game to be released. -Sketch 13:02, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
That's too long. I don't feel the need to edit the page right now. But what if I found out something about him? Or if he appeared in the anime? That's TOO long. That's not "just two months" it's TWO MONTHS, it's enough time to make 100 edits to a page. That's definitely too long. --Maxim 13:39, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
If he shows up in the anime, someone who can edit the page will edit it. Just like TTE did with Pluto. Sorry, your logic also fails. -Sketch 13:46, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
Admins can always miss some fact. We, users, are the biggest editing force after all. --Maxim 14:12, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
Then you tell them what they missed and they'll add it. That's a moot point. -Sketch 14:13, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
Waiting for an admin to enter the Pedia usually takes too long, especially if you live in Europe, being awake when most admins are asleep. That protection is just an unneeded obstacle in editing the Bulbapedia. What's the reason to protect so many pages? I sometimes feel the admins are protecting just for the sake of protecting and using their powers. --Maxim 14:19, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
Oh, of course. Now I can't change Kouya to Kōya because the page is freakin' protected. Please unprotect it, his dub name is already revealed. There is no further reason to have it protected. --Maxim 10:14, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Hmmm.

Every image on this page features him with his hand on his chin except for the Pt sprite. TTEchidna 19:49, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Then? Do you want different images for the article? Just asking. --♫♪Adyniz♪♫ 09:03, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

So..... what 'bout it, is it bugging you?--ForceFire 09:05, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
Only so much that I fixed the Pt opening sprite:

lookersprite.png

TTEchidna 05:33, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

And I do mean let's find a different image from Pocket Monsters DP besides him in his underwear. TTEchidna 18:27, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

Now here's a question.

Homage? Especially considering what Looker's done in the anime? TTEchidna 03:16, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

Woo! Looker is looking like an identical twin brother (except the face of his shape) of Koichi Zenigata. Same uniform + same job. Weird !!! --♫♪Adyniz♪♫ 06:12, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

Its also possible that he may be a homage to The Tenth Doctor. I had a little write up of why, but someone deleted it (and I would guess they've never seen Doctor Who, so they just don't get it. I think the similarities are just as worthy of a mention in the Trivia section. Anyway, here is what I had wrote" "Some fans also speculate that Looker is based on The Tenth Doctor, a fictional character from the British Sci-Fi, Doctor Who. Looker is compared to The Doctor due to having a similar outfit to The Doctor's usual attire, having a similar hair style, and being involved with a plot relating to time travel, alternate dimensions, and outer space; which are heavy themes in Doctor Who. At no point in the game is Looker seen battling, which may be reference to The Doctor's dislike of fighting." --Dojorkan 21:41, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

  • I would have written it off as coincidence, until a minor character in The End of Time Part 1 says that The Doctor is "a bit of a looker". It's impossible to say either way, since THAT could also be a coincidence. - Nebula 03:09, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
Apparently the bit about Looker being a possible Doctor Who reference has been taken out again... for being an "opinion", in that case, how come the Zenigata bit hasn't been removed? Dojorkan 03:13, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
Can I bring this up again? Because I agree with Dojorkan. He is very similar to both characters, and both parts are opinions, none of them confirmed or denied. So why should Koichi be listed and not the Doctor? Unless there's something I'm missing? --Darach-bcv 16:03, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

He speaks with odd grammatical constructs, implying that he is not a native speaker of the national language.

Is this true? Appropriate Japanese is spoken in a Original Japanese version. Sawamular101 12:30, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

In English, his sentences do sound a little bit unnatural. I didn't notice at first either, but when I did the Stark Mountain storyline I noticed it much more. He may actually speak with a normal sentence structure in Black and White as it is supposedly set it another country. --SnorlaxMonster 12:33, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
But he spoke normally in the anime. It's Turtwig A! My talk or wiki edits 12:34, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
Thank you for the explanation. Sawamular101 12:46, 24 October 2010 (UTC)


Return in the anime

bwhandsome2.jpg Hikaru Wazana 12:46, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

Generation I

On the S.S. Anne in Red/Blue, a man says that he's a Global Police Agent. Can I add this as an interesting piece of trivia? ----Zewis (29) 17:17, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

See International Police. --SnorlaxMonster 13:47, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
I actually saw that, but not until after I posted this on here. Thanks anyway, though, and I guess we shouldn't add it. ----Zewis (29) 21:21, 10 February 2012 (UTC)


Code Name

I'm pretty sure that in the Diamond and Pearl Adventure! manga, his two names (Looker/Hansom) both apply to him, as one is a code name. Can someone verify this? Pringles 02:43, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

Can anyone answer this? -- Pringles 01:13, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

Pokemon's death?

I just finished the story with him in X and Y, and it seems that his Croagunk has since passed? Or at least gone missing, but I'm pretty sure it was heavily implied to be dead. Its mentioned in 2 or 3 of the 5 missions with him, as well as being present in a photo with him (described as a blue pokemon... maybe the name is revealed if you've got croagunk in your pokedex?). Regardless, this should be added to his page, no? LordSchmee (talk) 08:55, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

I saw too. According to Emma, "his Pokémon didn't make it from their last mission" or some dialogue like that. RIP Croagunk. LurKasumi (talk) 14:15, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

Alternate Japanese name

In the English language X and Y, the Tourist calls him ルッカー in Japanese. Not sure where to put this name though. --SnorlaxMonster 11:47, 21 November 2013 (UTC)

Oh, and in the Japanese version (in which the Tourist speaks English), he is called Handsome. --SnorlaxMonster 13:57, 21 November 2013 (UTC)

Origin: The 10th Doctor

I wish to bring up this topic on the origin of Looker, as I believe that this theory has quite a few valid points and believed by quite a few people. As I wrote in the edit, Looker shares many qualities to David Tennant's Doctor. They both share a very similar attire, their profile's look almost identical having the same hairstyle and even eye color. They both believe violence is never the best option, and Looker's International Police badge (from the anime) could very easily be Psychic paper. Looker owns a Croagunk, which matches the color of The Doctor's TARDIS. Lastly, David Tennant's Doctor was first shown on Television in 2005, Platinum being released However, that the current 'Character Origin' is still a speculation. So why doesn't this theory, of which I believe I have given enough proof, not allowed to exist on a community-driven board. As the Actual origin has not been announced by any Nintendo/Game Freak official, why can't this theory hold the same weight? So, I am asking any staff member, please re-consider removing this part of the character Origin. - unsigned comment from Sharmasker (talkcontribs)

First of all, Looker's Pokémon sharing the same colors as the TARDIS is a bit far-fetched, as is the Psychic paper idea. Second, the character origin on the page is much more plausible, and states exactly why Koichi Zenigata might be an inspiration for Looker. It certainly makes much more sense than a British sci-fi television show that's not even about a detective. At least that's what I think. We should probably get a few more opinions on this. But I would say this isn't really a valid theory. KYUREM'S ICE BLADE 17:58, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

Quote context

In regards to the content that is under some debate, let me say this:

Quotes from a multi-sided conversation—as happens not infrequently on this site—very often quickly become meaningless without the context of the rest of the conversation. I added context here because I was getting those quotes and making the X/Y section. It's not done elsewhere because I haven't done that or tried to fix it up elsewhere/everywhere (except for a few places, like some ORAS demo quotes that I also added), because that's a huge job that I'm not quite up to dedicating myself wholly to. But that doesn't change the fact that I firmly believe it is the way things should be.

Without context, it becomes difficult (or even impossible at times) to understand why a character is saying what they are; and I think you should be able to understand that. Tiddlywinks (talk) 08:50, 12 February 2015 (UTC)