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Just looking at this page again... I think this really needs to be broken up somehow, just given that this article's Table of Contents is longer than most other articles in their entirety. Individual articles may be best, or at least group articles for item groups like, say, potions or dolls. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] 00:21, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
 
Just looking at this page again... I think this really needs to be broken up somehow, just given that this article's Table of Contents is longer than most other articles in their entirety. Individual articles may be best, or at least group articles for item groups like, say, potions or dolls. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] 00:21, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
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:How about articles for distinct types of items, i.e. hold items, key items (e.g. Itemfinder), balls, in-battle items (e.g. Potion, X Attack), and out-of-battle items (Repels, escape rope) and so on? — [[User:SheeEttin|SheeEttin]] {[[User_talk:SheeEttin|T]]/[[Special:Contributions/SheeEttin|C]]} 14:40, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

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[Individual pages?]

I believe some/all items should have individual pages, as well as this easy-view page. There's a hell of a lot you can say for one item. - Ferret 00:48, 25 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Define items that would warrant more than a paragraph. Evkl 01:02, 25 Feb 2005 (UTC)
I believe a lot can be said of Rare Candy, for one. Definitive places to get particular items too would be especially useful. - Ferret
That's actually not a bad idea. A summary of what they do, where you can get it, what it looks like, there's a lot you can say about any particular item. surskitty
Does anyone really care what the items look like? Can't someone figure out what an Escape Rope looks like, and such? I agree that maybe some of the more important items should have their own pages, but a lot don't need it. Evkl 05:33, 27 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Maybe there should be an extra level of sorting in the Item List: by Bag placement. There could be a separate section for Hold Items, Key Items, and Regular Items. Just a suggestion.CastformRED
Yes, you can see what it looks like in Fr/Lg (and probably emerald too). Also, is it ok to add items one by one, or should they be added section by section? <unsigned comment by User:Coppro 20:29, 15 March 2005 (CST)>
I think this list should stay, but I don’t see the harm in each item having its own page, too, with pictures and in-depth info. The whole point of the Bulbapedia is to fully explain every aspect of Pokémon. I mean, moves get their own pages. -- WikidSmaht 17:07, 5 March 2006 (CST)
I have no objections. However, I can't quite automate the process either. - 振霖T 03:58, 7 March 2006 (CST)
Why not, exactly? Just curious -- WikidSmaht 04:01, 12 March 2006 (CST)
Well, for the moves, abilities and episodes - I had the required information in a database, so it was very simple, but I don't have a database of items. - 振霖T 05:31, 12 March 2006 (CST)
Well maybe someone would volunteer to enter the complete list into a database. -- WikidSmaht 14:42, 12 March 2006 (CST)

[Lemonade?]

In what games is Lemonade avaliable in? User:Jellochuu/s 22:34, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Lemonade is in every game, in vending machines... Costs 350, if I remember correctly. They're also on Two Island. surskitty 01:24, 21 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Okay, thanks. Is it always in Celedon Dep. top floor? User:Jellochuu/s 02:52, 21 Mar 2005 (UTC)
In RBYGSCFrLg, yes, it's there. In GSC, they are also on the top floor of Goldenrod Dept, and RS has them in Lilycove Dept. The guy on Two Island sells them in bulk after you get the Nationaldex in FrLG. surskitty 03:00, 21 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Thank you. User:Jellochuu/s 03:07, 21 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Funny how this was here on the talk page for a year and no one bothered to put it in the article. Doing so now. -- WikidSmaht 04:01, 12 March 2006 (CST)

amulet coin

Amulet Coin...isn't there a similar if not identical item in R/S/E/Fr/Lg? evkl 09:41, 10 May 2005 (UTC)

>Most definately. The Amulet Coin reappears in Gen III. In Hoenn you can get it from your mom. I think you may be able to get it in other versions two, but I'm not sure of the exact location. Speaking of which, shouldn't we list the locations of these items somewhere? If someone desperately wants Blackglasses, shouldn't they be able to come to the Bulbapedia and see where they might be in any version in which they're obtainable? - Zeta
Absolutely. We have to start a campaign to add this. -- WikidSmaht 04:03, 12 March 2006 (CST)

Re: Amulet Coin

Oh, I can add most of those items. Since I have got Emerald, I can start posting again. I have put up the Amulet Coin so far, and I am still working on the rest of the stat-boosting items. -CastformRED

Item structure definition

There are description of items and there's the list index of items... However there's no documentation on where the item definitions can be found in the game (as there are for the pokemon base data, description and instance, as well as for the moves).

If anyone knows any bit of info (web site, generic knowledge) about them it would be quite helpful. <unsigned comment by User:Red! 08:51, 7 March 2006 (CST)>

The descriptions of the items appear when you buy them in the Poké Mart or look at them in the bag( in Generation III, at least). There are also comprehensive lists with descriptions and locations in the Official Nintendo Player’s Guides by Nintendo Power. A few fan sites like http://www.serebii.net and http://www.pokemonelite2000.com also have pretty good lists, though they don't always get the English-language names quite right. -- WikidSmaht 04:01, 12 March 2006 (CST)

Overhaul

OK, it now includes all the items I know of, though many still need info filled in.
That makes it 62 KB, however... even without most locations and descriptions! So it may be tough for some browsers to edit( according to the warning message). In that case, we probably need to spin game-exclusive lists off into their own articles. Although, the latest version of MediaWiki has fixed this problem on Wikipedia, maybe if Bublapedia’s MediaWiki was upgraded that wouldn’t be a problem any more. Dunno if that’s feasible though.
I have carefully checked, all the items in the first section are available in multiple games( don’t forget PC and PXD). The exception is Mail. Even though most 3rd-gen Mail can only be found in Ru/Sa/E or FR/LG, I included it in the general section because the whole point of Mail is to trade it.
I also listed things like “S.S. Ticket” under each individual game, because, despite having the same name and similar properties, they are obviously different items with different uses.
Everything is sorted into categories, and advanced versions of basic items are placed under the basic version( for instance, Super Repel and Max Repel are under Repel).
Since it took several hours just to get all the items added and sorted, I won’t be filling in the other info for a while, if ever. It would be great if someone else helped. As I mentioned above, the best source for info is the Official Nintendo Player’s Guides from Nintendo Power, but there are some decent fansites also. -- WikidSmaht 04:29, 12 March 2006 (CST)

A browser problem is a browser problem. Upgrading MediaWiki wouldn't change anything - what is more likely is that Wikipedia simply made the warning message invisible. However, I do agree: the page ought to be split up, preferably one article per item. - 振霖T 05:31, 12 March 2006 (CST)
You’re sort of right. I looked into it. But it appears that virtually all the affected browsers have since had upgrades which fixed the problem... see wp:Wikipedia:Article size. So you can probably remove the notice, too. -- WikidSmaht 14:42, 12 March 2006 (CST)

Just looking at this page again... I think this really needs to be broken up somehow, just given that this article's Table of Contents is longer than most other articles in their entirety. Individual articles may be best, or at least group articles for item groups like, say, potions or dolls. --Pie 00:21, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

How about articles for distinct types of items, i.e. hold items, key items (e.g. Itemfinder), balls, in-battle items (e.g. Potion, X Attack), and out-of-battle items (Repels, escape rope) and so on? — SheeEttin {T/C} 14:40, 6 July 2006 (UTC)