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Talk:List of Pokémon with unique type combinations

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Should we list Pokémon here twice? Like Surksit would be both under "Bug" and "Water"? Or would that be a bad idea? --Someone Else 11:36, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

I think it should be listed only under its first type (Such as Bug with Surskit..) but that's just me. Tina δ281 15:46, 23 March 2008 (UTC}


Question

Is Aron not there because there is already a Rock/Steel type?? And is rhyhorn not listed beciz there already is Rock/Ground?? I accidentally added rhyperior and others... like Aron and family is the only steel/rock... but beciz there is already rock/steel should it be added...?--Wowy 09:15, 16 September 2008 (UTC)


Families

Do solrock/lunatone and latias/latios really count as families? They aren't evolution families just counterparts. We wouldn't say that zangoose/seviper are the same family. Or the electabuzz and magmar lines seeing as how they are usually represented together (normally only available in oppositely paired games, recieved same evolutionary families in same generation) So shouldn't the solrock/lunatone and latias/latios be removed? TheAlmightyChris 20:20, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

You missed the Nidos♥ Otherwise, no comment--Kkllnn blastoise 20:24, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
I agree, Solrock/Lunatone and Latios/Latias and the Nidos shouldn't be considered families, since they don't evolve from or to each other. Maybe there should be a section for unique counterpart groups? Although, then you have the issue whether there are other counterparts (like seviper/zangoose) that could/should be included. It might be best if they're just removed. :-/ Jazzmoth 18:58, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
But wait-In the case of the Nidos, they are technically related, considering that , when Nidoran(F)(Can't make female sign) breeds, it could be either Nidoran, like how any multi-gendered pokemon breeds, it could be either gender. They're only separated by Gen I's lack of genders. Me and my fellow torchics agree on this - Sk8torchic 16:39, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
Latios and Latias ARE related. It's in the 5th movie for crying out loud. Take a look at the Gender page. It says that Latios and Latias are counterparts. --ケンジガール 00:31, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
Are we still talking about this? I don't know, but maybe in the case of Lunatone and Solrock, we should come up to discuss the meaning of the term "family". Does it mean the actual relationship or the true evolutionary line? Kevin Y (talk) 04:57, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
I say cut Solrock and Lunatone until they get they get a shared form (like how Hitmonlee and Hitmonchan weren't related until Gen 2 introduced Tyrogue). Lati@s, however, are all but confirmed ingame as being the Legendary equivalent of the Nidos so they should probably stay put.- unsigned comment from Blackstone Dresden (talkcontribs)

What is Anorith and Armaldo doing there? Shuckle is also their type. :/ --Makupe 23:25, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

Actually, Shuckle is Bug/Rock, not Rock/Bug.-- Dragonic ICE (User:Cold)(page, talk) 23:31, 13 December 2009 (UTC)


Spiritomb

Spiritomb needs to be added but I'm not sure how to do it. Someone feel free to do it. This is my first time posting here (User:RPinney)(page, talk) 04:34, 15 April 2009 (CST)

Sprirtomb is not unique. It has the same type combination as Sableye --ASCII 09:40, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
I think... ASCII 09:41, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
It is. Just the types are reversed. And type order doesn't mean it's unique.--ケンジガール 05:10, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

Hey....

Since they've announced the typings for Reshiram and Zekrom, can we add them, or do we have to wait for Black and White to come out? - Gold Dialga

Don't forget Meguroko :) Kikugi 16:01, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

Latias and Latios.

Well, Latias and Latios are a unique type pairing if they are to be counted in the same family, but not if there are two Pokémon that aren't related. We took off Solrock and Lunatone because they aren't. The frist paragraph states that they are either alone with their combination, or they share it with an evolutionary family. Maybe we should move them to families, or take them off? Or failing that, maybe mention this in the article. Samjohn95 05:10, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

I put Lati@s under families, but SpecialK reverted me. If he has a reason for this he can state it here within a few days or I'll revert over him because there is justification for what I did and apparently none for what he did. —darklordtrom 09:26, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
Am I too late to put this :p? Latios and Latias are NOT related. SpecialK Leiks Lucario and the Celebi Glitch 16:38, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
But, if I do remember, they are considered to be a family in the movie Pokémon Heroes. However, the relation depends on whether you mean evolutionary family or bloodline family. Turtwig's A-B-Cs (talk | contribs) 16:41, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

Format

I dislike the format of this page... it seems unnecessarily segmented. We can make a sortable table which will allow people to sort by type. If single vs. family is that important, an additional column may be made indicating that. What do you guys think? - MK (t/c) 08:28, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

Can you create a mockup in the userspace? I think this would be a good idea. --SnorlaxMonster 12:36, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
I will do so when the message to avoid userpage editing is gone. I couldn't even add this reply without getting multiple session errors. - MK (t/c) 02:11, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
That message is specifically referring to personal content. If it is something for the mainspace then the userspace limits are much less strictly enforced. Werdnae (talk) 07:27, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

Ah. Well, before I go further, here is my concept:

Not sure family even needs to be given a column; all we'd need to do is put a note at the top along with everything else stating that that any Pokémon that have the same type combo on the list are from the same family. Opinions? - MK (t/c) 08:42, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

I was thinking something more like this:

This way the families get their types merged to show that they are families, and we don't use those bulky sprites. --SnorlaxMonster 12:21, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

Merged cells largely screw up with sortable tables, because the merged cells aren't always next to each other. Werdnae (talk) 19:12, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
Forgot about that. How about we use the first suggestion, but just use MS instead of the bulky sprites. --SnorlaxMonster 02:22, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
Yeah the normal sprites are far too large. I just forgot to change them when I made my concept (it was late!). Nevertheless...simply removing the rowspan and making the colspans unsortable fixes that issue:
#
000 Name
  1st   2nd
Types
400 Bibarel Bibarel  Normal   Water 
648 Meloetta Meloetta
(Step Forme)
 Normal   Fighting 
585 Shikijika Shikijika  Normal   Grass 
586 Mebukijika Mebukijika  Normal   Grass 
031 Nidoqueen Nidoqueen  Poison   Ground 
034 Nidoking Nidoking  Poison   Ground 
041 Zubat Zubat  Poison   Flying 
042 Golbat Golbat  Poison   Flying 
169 Crobat Crobat  Poison   Flying 
453 Croagunk Croagunk  Poison   Fighting 
454 Toxicroak Toxicroak  Poison   Fighting 

Only issue then is what to put in the MissingNo. link area, and whether to keep the row-spanning type name columns, which only sort for the first type. - MK (t/c) 05:42, 10 October 2010 (UTC) Which do not sort meaningfully. - MK (t/c) 05:44, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

Well, I fixed the MS link—just us {{MS}} instead of {{MSP}}. Anyway, I removed the type headers as they just interfere with the sorting, and I guess they aren't that important. I edited your one because I didn't want to flood this page with more of an almost identical template. --SnorlaxMonster 11:07, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

More PKMN

Carvanha > Sharpedo are Water/Dark. What other PKMN/Line shares this type?

Also, Arceus with the Flying type plate was the 1st pure Flying type.