Talk:List of Pokémon by evolution family

Zangoose and Seviper

Should Zangoose & Seviper really be listed as one family? They're not related in any way, on the contrary - they're enemies. It's not the same as listing Tauros & Miltank or Volbeat & Illumise... Thoughts? --ElectAbuzzzz 09:07, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

• I had noticed that before, and was considering changing it myself. I'm pretty sure that there's no way they're related. Arch rivals, yes, but the same family, no. Drapion 14:24, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Eh, true, I guess. They're not really related as much as they are rivals. --TTEchidna 20:13, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Family of One

Can I just say right now that it's stupid to call a family with one member a family. I suggest we just drop the word "Family" for all families of one, like so:

Lowest		Trigger	Middle		Trigger	Highest
Skarmory
File:227MS.gif	Skarmory

Drapion 03:33, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Eh, I personally kept those for the future scenario where they get additional members. TTEchidna 09:32, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Tauros and Miltank

Should they be a family? I'm 99% sure that their relation is more than just fan speculation and was in an official guide or something like that, but I can't remember.--Shinin 17:02, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Yes, but these are evolution families.--Starlight the ampharos 00:21, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Ditto

I made an account specificly because of this. Somebody forgot everyone's favorite pink gooey friend Ditto which should be in between Lapras and Eevee. --KenStabler12 05:49, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

Yes... that is quite major. Thank you~ 梅子^❄_❅ 05:52, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

Region-based headings

Is calling the families "Kanto-based", "Johto Based" etc, wouldn't it make more sense to list the headings as "Generation I-introduced families" instead? Especially considering that Gen II Pokemon like Houndour and Houndoom aren't actually found in Johto, or that the Roselia and Chimecho families are more common in Sinnoh than they are in Hoenn. --Thingamajig257 10:54, 4th February, 2010

Solrock and Lunatone

I don't see why Plusle and Minun are counted as one family while these two aren't. --Thingamajig257 13:36, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

Nidoran family & EP sorting

I can't figure out how to do it. The Nidoran lines should be in a shared "Nidoran family" Especially since both Nidoran can hatch from Nidoran female eggs, like it's the case with Illumise.

Oh and I have an idea. There are 3 columns (1->2->3) Wouldn't it make sense if pokemon would be sorted by amount of Effort points? For example, this way, Lapras(2EP) would be in the middle column like Shelgon, Farfetch'd(1EP) would still be in the 1st column like Bagon, while Lugia(3EP) would be in the last column, like Salamence.

An obvious example are Mantine and Skarmory. Right now Skarmory is above Mantyke. With the above sorting, Skarmory would be above Mantine since they both give 2 Effort Points. --Saiph charon 15:10, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

The following pokemon's places would change with this:

Lickitung & Lickilicky (2 & 3), Kangaskhan (2), Lapras (2), Pinsir (2), Tauros (2), Aerodactyl (2), Articuno (3), Zapdos (3), Moltres (3), Mewtwo (3), Mew (3), Unown (2, lol), Girafarig (2), Shuckle (2), Heracross (2), Corsola (2), Skarmory (2), Miltank (2), Raikou (3), Entei (3), Suicune (3), Lugia (3), Ho-oh (3), Celebi (3), Sableye (2), Mawile (2), Torkoal (2), Zangoose (2), Seviper (2), Solrock (2), Lunatone (2), Tropius (2), Absol (2), Relicanth (2), Regirock (3), Regice (3), Registeel (3), Latias (3), Latios (3), Kyogre (3), Groudon (3), Rayquaza (3), Jirachi (3), Deoxys (3), Spiritomb (2), Carnivine (2), Rotom (2), Uxie (3), Mesprit (3), Azelf (3), Dialga (3), Palkia (3), Heatran (3), Regigigas (3), Giratina (3), Cresselia (3), Manaphy (3), Darkrai (3), Shaymin (3), Arceus (3)--Saiph charon 15:31, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

The reason Nidoran doesn't have a shared family is because the Group version of the lop/evo template doens't allow for evolutions. --Goldenpelt 22:35, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

Anyone know how to put something in the "second" (4,5,6) column with the first (3) being plain background colour?--Saiph charon 17:34, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

Frillish

Shouldn't Frillish's fermale form be added to the Frillish Family? Likewise with Unfezant? I know it's only a difference in appearance between the male and female, but at the same time, they are different members of the same family.. Opinions? --Beyondashadow 03:11, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

Not an evolution family!

First of all, though admittedly similar, Plusle and Minun are not an Evolution family, neither are Throh or Sawk. They are not gender couterparts and they do not share a basic form. Also if we are to carry on including Sawk and Throh in the same family, isn't calling it the "Geki" family misleading? Yes their Japanese names share the element but to English speakers it means nothing. Thanks Anaserfrdrews12798 15:23, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

This has been brought up above - it is currently IMHO arbitrary and not remotely factual, but someone would probably revert it if changed. Why Plusle+Minun and Throh+Sawk are an evolution family but not say other counterparts like Mawile+Sableye, Lunatone+Solrock and Heatmor+Durant is utterly beyond my comprehension. Shiny Porygon 16:45, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

I agree with everything here, as do a few other staff members, so I've changed it. If anyone disagrees, they'd better have a really good argument. ^★Jo the Marten^★ ಠ_ಠ♥ 17:08, 3 December 2011 (UTC)