Talk:List of Pokémon by National Pokédex number

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Gen VI

Could Aurorus and Tyrantrum be added to the page, or will they be added after this mystery Pokémon is revealed tomorrow? Scratch that. Aurorus, Tyrantrum, and Doublade need to be added. --The Truth aka Relicant 16:19, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

719, 720, 721

I remember reading somewhere that someone discovered Pokemon past Zygarde. Should we add them? Liberty Bell (talk) 14:25, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

We know about them, but we can't really confirm them since this time we neither can crack into the game to see all the data, nor they've been officialy revealed... at least for now. Uploader (talk) 14:39, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

Cottonee's type change

Can anyone add Fairy type to Cottonee please, that's because it's evolution is also Fairy type. Thank you! Cinday123 (talk) 06:56, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

False typing

Cottonee and Whimsicott are not fairy type. Why do people keep stating that when you cannot even find them in x or y? --Admantus (talk) 19:07, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

You can't catch them yourself, but they are used by other Trainers in battle facilities, etc. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 20:19, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

And according to Serebii, Cottonee line is now Fairy type, however, you can't catch them in Kalos and the only way to get them is to transfer Pokémon from Black, White, Black 2 or White 2 to X or Y, this is because it is not available to catch in Kalos however you have a chance to see them in battle facilities whereas Trainers used Whimsicott. Cinday123 (talk) 08:52, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

Well, Serebii might be wrong, because they haven't even updated the sprites for the other unobtainable pokemon that appear post-game. I think that the types should be switched back to pure grass until pokemon bank comes out. --Admantus (talk) 20:56, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

That has nothing to do with it. I mean, the information on Bulbapedia is always confirmed information. And any information that wasn't confirmed gets removed. So, the fact that Cottonee/Whimsicott being Grass/Fairy hasn't been removed or altered back to it's original information/typing means it's been confirmed. And like Cinday123 and others have said, just because you can't catch it in the Kalos region games doesn't mean you can't still obtain it. And that means, the information for Cottonee & Whimsicott are programmed in the games. So, I say let it be. DarienLeonhart (talk) 21:52, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

Order

Is it just me or are the pokemon listed for gen VI out of order? Not like broken, but I see like 114 right after 93 and etc. ★☆Togetic45☆★ 18:58, 22 December 2013 (UTC)

It's not out of order. Those are the Pokemon's Kalos Dex numbers. The list is ordered by the National Dex numbers. --It's Funktastic~!_{話してください} 19:05, 22 December 2013 (UTC)

Secret Gen 6 Pokemon

What about those secret Pokemon from Gen 6? The ones after Zygarde? Shouldn't they be on here now? MegaNerd18 (talk) 11:36, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

I'm so sorry, the Pokémon Company haven't revealed these mythical Pokémon so let's just leave it for now until it's revealed so we don't know yet. Cinday123 (Talk) 12:24, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

Well I think the hacker who discovered the secret Pokemon is reliable because the Pokemon he found where: Hoopla, Volcanion, Daince, Fancy Vivillon, and the Mega Eon twins. Four out of six have revealed. If we do put in Hoopla and Volcaion when should put a little star (*) like on the list of Pokemon in the a area in the ranger game if you must release them after you catch them. --AbsolX (talk) 17:46, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

Generation VI Sprites

Why there are no sprites for the new Pokémon introduced in X and Y? Dalton358 (talk) 20:25, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

Because we don't have them and we don't allow taking from other sites without permission. Glik (talk) 20:33, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

I figured it would take longer to get them, because it's on a different system. I wonder how the other websites got their images. Dalton358 (talk) 21:41, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

They have 3DS capture cards. Few Bulbapedia users do, and the only ones I've seen with them have been focusing on other things, like Trainer images. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 21:44, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

Multiple Pokédeces in Generation VI

In the Generation VI, there are 3 Pokédeces: Kalos Central, Kalos Coastal and Kalos Mountain. For example:

1. Chespin is Kalos Central #001
2. Inkay is Kalos Coastal #010
3. Goomy is Kalos Mountain #019

The list doesn't reflect it.

-Iosue (talk) 08:27, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

That's because this is the National Pokédex list. You want List of Pokémon by Kalos Pokédex number. --SnorlaxMonster 08:32, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

Of course I understand that. I am not stupid. I can read. What I am suggesting is to add a very small token in front of each Kalos number to indicate if it is Central, Coastal or Mountain, as these are a part of the Generation VI dex. If there is no indication of the sub-region, the column of the table of Generation VI will have limited meaning here. I'd suggest you either delete the whole column, or add the small indication of which sub-region the number belongs to. -Iosue (talk) 04:39, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

This is still an issue. Scatterbug and Sligoo are still labeled with the same number in the Kalos Dex without distinction. Also, that column is labelled VIDex, which will be misleading with the release of ORAS. --Abcboy (talk) 06:55, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

I concur with the main issue. Don't write completely undifferentiated numbers as if all you have to do is scroll through one Pokedex to find any given Pokemon; that's not at all the case. Do something like this:

VIdex	Ndex	MS	Pokémon	Type
#001Ce	#0650		Chespin	Grass
#002Ce	#0651		Quilladin	Grass

I would also strongly suggest linking the regional 'dex abbreviations in the headers so people can click on them and immediately jump to those 'dexes. (If this were done, this would make "VIdex" less "misleading".) I linked "VIdex" above, and I'll demonstrate the same for the other generations below...

Kdex	Ndex	MS	Pokémon	Type

Jdex	Ndex	MS	Pokémon	Type

Hdex	Ndex	MS	Pokémon	Type

Sdex	Ndex	MS	Pokémon	Type

Udex	Ndex	MS	Pokémon	Type

For that matter, I'd also suggest linking "Ndex" similarly in the header template so it links easily back here on the regional 'dex pages. ...And "Type" could also be linked, just because it's the sort of thing that should be clickable. Tiddlywinks (talk) 08:47, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

This is still an issue. Scatterbug and Sligoo are still labeled with the same number in the Kalos Dex without distinction. Also, Diancie needs its Kalos Dex number added (#151 in Central). --Abcboy (talk) 09:43, 28 December 2014 (UTC)

As Abcboy said, this remains an issue. I have taken the liberty of creating a user page that fixes the main issue in this discussion. The page also incorporates my idea for 'dex links in the headers, as well as renames the Kalos section's table header from "VIdex", a name that is not proper considering the existence of ORAS now.

I hope someone on staff will take a cursory look at my user page and then copy the code onto this page (give or take the headers, perhaps), so that this issue may finally be solved. Tiddlywinks (talk) 21:58, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

Bump... Tiddlywinks (talk) 10:29, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

Color

I noticed that the color coordination is not in accord with the Kalos National Pokédex. Shouldn't each region get the appropriate color attributed to them? Mr. Guye (talk) 20:57, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

Interesting observation. I had never noticed the color coding in the Kalos National Pokédex before, but it's there, and is to my knowledge the first time an official source has used color coding to denote regions.

Bulbapedia currently uses specific colors for regions, but this particular page uses the colors of the first games taking place in those regions. Perhaps the colors for the tables on this page should be replaced with the region colors. Meanwhile, replacing the region colors themselves with the ones in X and Y is a discussion that should take place but might be too big for this page. I would recommend taking that up with a staff member. --Andy^P_K^M_N (talk) 18:36, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

The icon for diancie.

Now that Diancie has been released, you guys need to update this page to contain the sprite for diancie so it is no longer a grey question mark. Random Viewer

Flabébé line

We've done it for Shaymin, Burmy and Rotom (as well as others) and the sprites are in the Archives, so can an admin (since I can't edit the page) add on the different mini sprites of them, or explain to me why they aren't used on it? Thanks.--Ditto51/Tom (My Talk Page) 20:47, 8 August 2014 (UTC)

Save space

Welcome. I got the idea, in which a list of Pokemon replace the tiles. It would have saved a lot of space and reduced the site to a minimum. Imagine this:

Ndex: #001 Bulbasaur Grass Poison

Ndex: #002 Ivysaur Grass Poison

Ndex: #003 Venusaur Grass Poison

Ndex: #004 Charmander Fire

Ndex: #005 Charmeleon Fire

Ndex: #006 Charizard Fire Flying

Ndex: #007 Squirtle Water

Ndex: #008 Wartortle Water

Ndex: #009 Blastoise Water

As you can see images of Pokémon will be bigger and will take less than half the length now. --Dominikololo (talk) 09:47, 28 August 2014 (UTC)

I don't necessarily agree with this idea. It looks better and shows off a Pokémon's appearance in full instead of just resorting to the icon, yes, but it's a lot more complex to work with incase there's an error. If you want to make it, you can do it as a personal user page under something like User:Dominikololo/Visual National Pokédex just to give us a full example. Superjustinbros. (talk) 03:30, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

Generation III

Considering the fact the Johto Pokédex part of the Gen II Pokémon section was updated to the newer version from HG/SS, it's probably best we update Hoenn's under the Gen III Pokémon section to the one from ΩR/αS. Nintendocan (talk) 00:17, 25 December 2014 (UTC)

Hoopa Unbound and Dex numbers

Hoopa's Unbound form needs to be added. Diancie, Hoopa and Volcanion's Dex numbers also. Asmod96 (talk) 16:09, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

VIdex	Ndex	MS	Pokémon	Type
#150	#0718		Zygarde	Dragon	Ground
#151	#0719		Diancie	Rock	Fairy
#152	#0720		Hoopa	Psychic	Ghost
#152	#720U	Hoopa	Hoopa	Psychic	Dark
#153	#0721		Volcanion	Fire	Water