Talk:Legendary Pokémon/Archive1
Even in the anime, are Entei, Raikou, and Suicune ever thought of as gods? I thought they were spirits or embodiments of their elements.
Is Mewtwo really a Legendary? It's even less related to being a God than Raikou, Entei and Suicune, as it's just a mutant created in a laboratory. Also, in the Symphonic Medley Opening, you don't see Mewtwo coupling with the other Legendaries. Perhaps this article should be made more precise, telling the reader that Mewtwo isn't really a Legendary, but often is mentioned as a Legendary, as it has legendary powers (from mew)? What do you think? --nYoo 21:50, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I personally think it's safe to assume that Mewtwo is a legendary, but a note might be added about that. Also, how do you say legendary in Japanese? More curious than anything, it doesn't have to be added to the page -Greengiant
The question is whether maboroshi and densetsu are exclusive categories. Are there any Pokémon which are maboroshi and in densetsu? Some of the maboroshi Pokémon are present in densetsu, such as Lugia (although a veiled reference); Latios and Latias are featured in densetsu, but their species is mugen Pokémon - perhaps a roundabout self-reference to the nature of legendary Pokémon - but English species name Eon suggests a pun between 無限 (infinite) and 夢幻 (fantasy) rather than that. - 振霖T 08:16, 27 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I realy wonder If any trainer ever captured (or already captured) an densetsu or maboroshi? (exept Giovanni he owned mewto for a limited time)
Mewtwo is more of the maboroshi than the densetsu. Determining weither or not it's 'densetsu' or not depends on which canon we use. In the Anime, the Kanto Bird Trio certainly is densetsu, but in the games, they are barely mentioned, except by a few Bird Keepers.
Should the message at the bottom about the Regis have info added to include Regigigas or not? I believe that it is the sealed Pokemon that the caves in Hoenn warn about. --PikamasterADV 15:54, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
- Interesting. I always assumed it referred to all three Gen III Regis but in the light of Diamond and Pearl that is a good possibility. --FabuVinny 23:08, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
An interesting point is that DP itself uses the terms maboroshi and densetsu, and this is translated into English as mirage and legendary, respectively. It also seems to suggest that maboroshi is a subset of densetsu. - 振霖T 08:43, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
- Regarding this, should we mention which categories each Legendary falls under? If there's a list somewhere in Japanese? --Greengiant 02:45, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
I think that the Sinnoh Myths article should be merged with this one, or else the entire section on "Myths and Legends involving Legendary Pokémon" might need to be its own article (perhaps called something like "Myths and Legends of the Pokémon World" so it has greater scope?) with the Sinnoh Myths part of that. Just an idea, because I saw that it's a featured article candidate now, and the myths section looks sort of subpar. --Greengiant 02:42, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
I think that Unown should defiantly be considered a lengendary. --Ryguy 11:30, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
- Like Arcanine, I suppose it could be considered as having legendary characteristics, but really, it's not legendary. Legendaries are pretty much completely defined by the fact that they are one-per-game Pokémon that are not able to breed and produce offspring that either is or can become the same species. And, of course, how many Unown can you get? A lot. --TTEchidna 01:37, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
Solaceon Ruins?
Should a translation of the Unown runes there be on this page? --Angerman 10:18, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
What about Absol?
Sometimes, aren't absol considered legendary?
- No. I've never heard of Absol being legendary, and I know a lot about Absol. :S TinaTheKirlia ♥ File:281MS.gif 02:29, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
- I don't think they're ever considered legendary. They have appeared close to legendaries, because Absol are disaster-sensing Pokémon, and there are no bigger disasters than those caused by legendaries and their interaction with nature ;) --Johans 02:42, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
Since when was Giratina confirmed to have been created from Arceus? And even more pertinent, since when have Cresscelia and Darkrai been said to have been created from Giratina? --Zeta 04:11, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
- According to the games, Arceus is the "Original One." This would mean that everything in the Pokémon world was either created by Arceus or by another Pokémon that was created by Arceus, or another Pokémon that was created by a Pokémon that was created by Arceus, and so on. Giratina is clearly too powerful to have been created by Uxie, Mesprit, Azelf, Dialga, or Palkia, so by a process of elimination, Giratina was created by Arceus. Also, this article wouldn't be on Bulbapedia if Giratina wasn't recognized by everyone as being created by Arceus (I didn't start the article). Now, as for why Cresselia and Darkrai were created by Giraina. First, they were nowhere near powerful enough to be straight from Arceus. Therefore, they must either be from Dialga and Palkia, Giratina, or Uxie, Mesprit, and Azelf. Due to the fact that they essentially have nothing to do with time and space, they would have to be created by either Giratina or the Lake Trio. Since there is no mention of Cresselia or Darkrai in the legends in the Canalave Library (Giratina isn't mentioned because it was unknown), they can't have been made by the Lake Trio either. Therefore, by a process of elimination, Giratina created Cresselia and Darkrai. --Shiny NoctowlTalk | ContribsFile:Ani164MS.gif 12:24, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
- That's nothing but original research. None of us get the right to say something isn't "powerful enough" to be created by Arceus. Unless Game Freak/Tajiri/etc. announce any of that, you can't treat it as fact.--Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 12:49, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
- That is entirely all speculation on your part. I'm surprised you didn't try to shove all the other Legendaries into that absurd "family tree". So did Kyogre give birth to Manaphy or did Lugia mate with Latias? *rolls eyes* --Zeta 19:21, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
