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A person just added a trivia mention of the speculation that Cubone was initially meant to be a baby Kangaskhan. I wanted to bring this up here, because I realize that undoing an edit like this just doubles the stress the trivia put on the servers, and could lead to an edit war. Is this really worth noting? My understanding was that this theory was just one more Missingno. theory tossed around on 4chan. Does it really have enough evidence, or enough adherents, to stay on the page? My opinion is no, but I want to have some consensus so that we can be sure to have a precedent for if these types of theories can be inserted into the mainspace or not. --[[User:AndyPKMN|Andy<sup>P</sup><sub>K</sub><sup>M</sup><sub>N</sub>]] [[User talk:AndyPKMN|(talk)]] 21:23, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
A person just added a trivia mention of the speculation that Cubone was initially meant to be a baby Kangaskhan. I wanted to bring this up here, because I realize that undoing an edit like this just doubles the stress the trivia put on the servers, and could lead to an edit war. Is this really worth noting? My understanding was that this theory was just one more Missingno. theory tossed around on 4chan. Does it really have enough evidence, or enough adherents, to stay on the page? My opinion is no, but I want to have some consensus so that we can be sure to have a precedent for if these types of theories can be inserted into the mainspace or not. --[[User:AndyPKMN|Andy<sup>P</sup><sub>K</sub><sup>M</sup><sub>N</sub>]] [[User talk:AndyPKMN|(talk)]] 21:23, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
:Not worth noting at all. It's nothing but baseless fan speculation. <span class="sc">[[User:Werdnae|<span style="color:#2D4B98;">Werdnae</span>]]</span> <small>[[User talk:Werdnae|<span style="color:#009000;">(talk)</span>]]</small> 20:17, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
:Not worth noting at all. It's nothing but baseless fan speculation. <span class="sc">[[User:Werdnae|<span style="color:#2D4B98;">Werdnae</span>]]</span> <small>[[User talk:Werdnae|<span style="color:#009000;">(talk)</span>]]</small> 20:17, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
Besides, Kangaskhan is not the mother of Cubone:
On the Parent/Child relationship of Kangaskhan:
Pokemon are fascinating creatures, and the world around us is filled with these majestic creatures and through our encounters with them we can further understand how they interact in the world. Today I would like to draw your attention to Kangaskhan. Long known as the “Parent Pokemon” (Oak) Current theories abound about how it reproduces and the development stage of the offspring. The widely accepted “Cubone theory” (Fan, Dom, et al) has us believe that Kangaskhan are the beginning and final stages of the lives of the Cubone evolutionary line [fig 1], with Marrowak being an intermediary between the two. This theory was based on Pokedex research conducted originally by Oak, and expanded by Fan & Dom. Supported by shared habitat in Kanto and Kalos, and much other evidence largely based on aesthetic differences. The “Cubone Theory” however doesn’t explain how it was the offspring of Cubone could be created before reaching the Kangaskhan stage. Or how there could be male Cubone but no male Kangaskhan?Fig 1: Similarities in appearence and proposed evolution
A better explanation for Kangaskhan is taken from the plant world in an alternation of generations. In the standard botanical model for the lifecycle of the fern we see that a child generation can grow in a far dissimilar manner to that of it’s parents.3 When dealing with an alternation of generations an organism reproduces asexually via meiosis. This generation does not have chromosome pairs and is referred to as the gametophyte, or haploid, generation. This generation must then receive additional genetic material to reproduce into the original organism. The offspring will then have a full pair of chromosomes and become the sporophyte or diploid generation. Is this unique to the world of plants though? Perhaps there was some convergent evolution among Kangaskhan? Perhaps Kangaskhan is an example of this in the animal world. We start with the commonly accepted parent, always female it reproduces asexullay a smaller offspring it carries in its pouch. The child however has no pouch of its own, as the recent work in Mega Evolution has shown us on such Kangaskhan in the Mega state. (Sycamore). Perhaps the all female Kangaskhan then produces via meiosis a viable offspring in the dwarf companion pokemon that has before been confused as a juvenile. Instead if we treat this dwarf companion pokemon as one in a similar point in its own lifecycle as its mother we can explain how it is able to be bred while the parent is at level one and the dwarf itself received no additional experience points. These offspring are still entirely female themselves and therefore require males, even though there are no male Kangaskhan and thus require pokemon from a similar egg group it explains why Kangaskhan themselves are rare. The symbiosis between the parent and dwarf causes the parents to become defensive of the dwarves and thus prevent potential mates.
Alternation of generations can also be, in part, considered for Kangaskhan’s gender ratio. If we assume that in Kangaskhan that the female gender is dominant genetically, we can follow a cirlce where the dwarf pokemon are female because their parents are, and then their offspring are female because the dwarf’s female genetic trait masks the father’s male trait. Then if we assume that male genetics are incompatible with the alternation of generations that is unique to Kangaskhan, it therefore cannot produce a male offspring. Thus all dwaf pokemon must be female, and their offspring must be female too.
[[User talk:Owlkeeper|(talk)</span>]]</small> 20:17, 20 April 2011 (UTC)


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Unique moves via 'M

some moves can be learned by a Kangaskhan that has evolved from an 'M that it can't normally learn.These Kangaskhans are not glitched and can be kept in later generations. The moves are

Fly, Thunder wave, fissure, water gun, sky attack, bubble beam, teleport, rest.

there may be more, ill add more later. anyways, maybe we could add this into the learn movesets as like a special section - unsigned comment from DJLO (talkcontribs)

Evolved

In Red, my Kangaskan evolved a M', I forget but I remember I was in a mountainous region when it happened and there was a cave enterance. That might give you some clues to its levels depending on the leve of the wild pokemon in regions with grass near a cave enterence. If I had to say it was around level 30 or so. At any rate I was shocked, I had a gameshark but it wasn't in at the time and I had done the item duplication trick a few times (I don't think I caught missingno tho). - unsigned comment from Fxblaster (talkcontribs) at 02:32, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

That my friend was a glitch.--Sludge 18:18, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

This weird thing

I have this holographic card thingie with Kangaskhan on it. I know it's not a TCG because it just has a picture of the pokemon on it, it's holographic like I said. On the back it has a Pokeball and on the bottom says ©1995-1999 Game Freak. What is it? Ugoz 08:27, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

Is this new? Worth mentioning?

Even if it's never been confirmed or officialized seeing this has been quite an eye-opener for me... Anyone else got shocked? 1251703778039.jpg - unsigned comment from DJLO (talkcontribs)

What is it that's never been confirmed or officialized?--Lamb(talk) 04:30, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
...I don't see a picture at all Pgj1997 13:02, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

Name

Kangas Khan may just be based on 'Kangaroo' and 'Khan' (Mongolian for emperor) instead of kangaroo and Ghengis Khan. Just thought I should point this out, as that means there is no gender problems (Gengis being a guy, kangaskhan being female only. Megadog 19:49, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Is it rally just a kangaroo?

Just because it has Kanga in its name doesn't mean it is automatically a kangaroo. Ive always loved dinosaurs. So when I first saw kangaskhan this first thing that i thought was Maiasaura. You can see for yourself on the link that follows. [1] --Sandflapjack 20:02, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

There may be a resemblance, however, Kangaskhan keeps its young in a pouch, like other marsupials, including kangaroos, whereas the Maiasaura does not. --ZestyCactus 20:42, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

Can a pokemon get inspiration from just one source? I think not. --Sandflapjack 23:41, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

Kangaskhan/Cubone trivia?

A person just added a trivia mention of the speculation that Cubone was initially meant to be a baby Kangaskhan. I wanted to bring this up here, because I realize that undoing an edit like this just doubles the stress the trivia put on the servers, and could lead to an edit war. Is this really worth noting? My understanding was that this theory was just one more Missingno. theory tossed around on 4chan. Does it really have enough evidence, or enough adherents, to stay on the page? My opinion is no, but I want to have some consensus so that we can be sure to have a precedent for if these types of theories can be inserted into the mainspace or not. --AndyPKMN (talk) 21:23, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

Not worth noting at all. It's nothing but baseless fan speculation. Werdnae (talk) 20:17, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

External Links

So I just added a piece of trivia to Kangaskhan's article that was based of something on YouTube. How do I link to the exact video? (Charizard101 14:28, 1 April 2012 (UTC)}

Never mind. (Charizard101 14:29, 1 April 2012 (UTC))

Trivia worthy

Is it trivia worthy too add that Kangaskhan is the only pokemon to have a living creature that can be seperated from it that is not a pokemon Iml908 18:52, 27 April 2012 (UTC)

How is a baby Kangaskhan not a Pokémon? It's still a Kangaskhan, just much smaller. Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 19:20, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
I still think that we need to add that it is the only Pokemon that has another Pokemon with it Iml908 19:45, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
That would be incorrect. Mantine is commonly seen with a Remoraid, so Kangaskhan is not the only Pokémon. --Pokemaster97 19:50, 27 April 2012 (UTC)

Unnotable trivia

As far as I know, the first trivia is not notable as there are seven other Pokémon. Similar trivia, concerning a trait shared by more than one species of Pokémon, has been removed from other pages. So why is this kept here? It should also be removed from other pages. Արիանո 14:17, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

Mega Evolution

We could add this to the top, just as it is on the Mewtwo page: While it is not known to evolve to or from any other Pokémon, it has a Mega Evolution called Mega Kangaskhan obtained through an unknown Mega Stone.- unsigned comment from ShinySephiroth (talkcontribs)

Parental Bond

So, I've been using mega kangaskhan for a while now, and I noticed something odd: it seems that Parental bond causes all multi-hit attacks to hit exactly twice? Harumei (talk) 01:32, 1 November 2013 (UTC)