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Gen3 bit weights may be wrong

In the process of my hacking, I believe I've found that the bit weights in Gen3 listed on this page are partially wrong, namely the isEgg and isNicknamed flags. I'm going to edit them to what I believe are the correct values, but if anyone knows differently, feel free to change them back. -Aerolite

UPDATE: Further hacking has revealed something that I didn't expect - the most significant bit in the IVs actually controls the ability a Pokemon has. If clear, the Pokemon will have its first ability. If set, the Pokemon will have its second. If the Pokemon doesn't have a second ability, when the IVs are generated, this bit is forced clear. If it is artificially set on a Pokemon with only one ability, then said Pokemon will have no ability. --Aerolite 03:40, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

31 In Everything

is it possible without hacking? I don't know the answer, but i think whoever can should put it on the page.GreenAiden555 05:25, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Possible, not probable. Keep hatching and catching Pokémon, you'll eventually get two with the same IVs, too. Of course, now with the personality value... TTEchidna 10:53, 17 November 2007 (UTC)


What does it stand for? Optimus35Talk | DP 10:27, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Difference Value? TESHTALKSAND 19:57, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Determinant value. TTEchidna 09:11, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
Ohhhhhhhhhhh...Agent #448 | 10:59, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Determining IVs

  • How do you determine what a pokemon's IV are so that you can calculate it?
Veekun's got a calculator that determines them from the Pokémon's stats. There's a link to it at the bottom of the page. TTEchidnaGSDS! 04:32, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Thanx a lot TTE. How do you know everything that goes on on this website? <I don't mean to start a long conversation about this, just wondering.../>
Recent changes. TTEchidnaGSDS! 22:40, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
  • I have captured a Linoone (Docile) in Ruby at LV26 with SP.DEF 42. The Calcalator now tells me, that this isnt possible (39 would be possible), so does some Pokemon already have some EVs (must minimum have 36), when you capture them? I have never entered a battle with this Pokemon so fare. ----Blablubbb 11:25, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
I did the math by hand and got a range from 20-24. I also just did it on Veekun and got about the same thing. Either you typed it in wrong or the IV calculator you're using is off. The Professor 03:00, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

1 IV = How many points?

How many stat points does 1 IV give? Is it like, 1, or 2, or 5? What is it? Sidnoea 21:08, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Each IV gives one stat point at lvl 100 Prof. Pine 20:49, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

which is...

which is the maximum number of iv for a pokemon? is possible to get 31 for each statistic without hacking? --Marcat 12:59, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

The maximum is 31 in each, though it's extremely rare to get one with perfect IVs. UltimateSephiroth (about me · chat · edits) 13:37, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Eggs and IV

Are the IVs calculated when you receive the egg or when the egg hatches? Idiot 12:21, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

The Pokémon is completely determined when received as an egg, not hatched, always. WeavilePwns 02:31, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

Unown's Letter in Generation II

After doing a bit of a search on the net, it looked as if nobody knew how to calculate this, and I'm not sure if it's needed/wanted since we are well and truly past Generation II, but for the sake of completeness and out of my own curiosity I thought I'd give it a crack. Anyway I figured out how the letter is calculated, so I'm pretty pleased :D It's all my own work so if you have any questions feel free to ask. Also, this is my first contribution so hopefully it is to the correct standard, I just felt like I should create an account to share my findings! GreatUnown 12:35, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

So, you say an Unown's form is determined by its IVs? q~Bisumito Is Snazzy~p (Talk~) 13:41, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

Gen V IV Calculation

I'm not really one for worrying about IVs, really, but I've been trying to figure out the IVs of some fresh pokémon of mine and the calculations have come up weird when I check them myself using the formula given under the "Generation III" section. All the Generation V section talks about is the guy in the Battle Subway Gear Hub (I think it's called). Could someone maybe add some more detail, or at least confirm that the calculation is the same? (Which means I'm just too stupid or something.) FerreTrip 21:09, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

Have you checked your results against those given by online IV calculators (e.g., this one)? —Minimiscience 21:19, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

Pokémon Emerald messages

Pokémon judging.

"This one, overall, [...]"

1.- "[...] I would describe it as being of average ability." 2.- "[...] I would describe as having better-than-average ability." 3.- "[...] I would say is quite impressive in ability!"

Best Stat

"Incidentally, the best aspect of it, I would say is its XXX..."

1.- "That stat is relatively good." 2.- "That stat is quite impressive." 3.- "That stat is outstanding!" 4.- "It's flawless! A thing of perfection!"

"... Hm... That's how I call it."

Those where all the messages I got, sadly I have no way to know the amount of points on each, thought the last one it's obviously 31. LurKasumi 17:05, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

Stuck in a loop...

I seem to be stuck in a loop. I messed up and didn't keep track of my EV's while training, and I didn't find the IV's after hatching. Somebody suggested to calculate the IV's, but I can't seem to do that without the EV's. And I can't figure out how many EV's i've accumulated without knowing the IV's. Sombody please tell me im missing something here! Much appreciated.--XWaffle117x (talk) 17:21, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

The only way to do that now would be to drop all your EVs to zero with the EV-reducing Berries, then calculate your IVs, then reset (not restart the whole game, just reset it) and calculate your EVs using your IVs. In future however, please not that Bulbapedia talk pages are for the discussion of the article itself, not the topic of the article; please use the forums for these kind of questions instead. --SnorlaxMonster 17:35, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

Oh shoot, my bad. I will try to remember in the future. Sorry!--XWaffle117x (talk) 05:12, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

Individual strengths

I'm loathe to start yet another debate on nomenclature but, as proven by SnorlaxMonster's scan of the official guidebook [1] , IVs are called individual strengths multiple times, as well as being referred to as "the strengths of the individual" elsewhere. I feel as if all I'm doing lately is arguing in favour of changing everything on the wiki against the will of the staff, though I believe the possibility of a move is something that should be at least discussed. - Blazios talk 15:29, 21 November 2013 (UTC)

I don't believe the guidebook is necessarily establishing a term here (note that the phrase "individual strengths" occurs exactly twice before it segues into a discussion of Super Training -- not enough to establish a good pattern). Making the matters more confusing is that we do have one in-game phrase for it already: Three generations feature an NPC offering to judge the "intriguing potential" of your Pokemon, however he himself only uses the term once and also refers to individual IV's as "stats" for short. --Stratelier 23:17, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
As I stated, they are referred to as "the strengths of the individual" elsewhere in the guidebook [2], which may as well be the same thing (it's in the same diagram that lists base stats and the strengths of the species as names). Does the fact that it's also the title of the paragraph specifically defining and explaining IVs not also somewhat give credence to it as a name? - Blazios talk 23:37, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

I'm going to have to agree with Stratelier. While "Individual strengths" does sound nicer than "Individual values", everyone who understands the concept is used to the term and understands it well enough that changing it now will simply create an unnecessary headache. Mentions in guidebooks, which the vast majority of players don't bother with, shouldn't be relied on too heavily. Nokota (talk) 12:01, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

That's not really the most relevant of points, given that Bulbapedia's policy is to use the official names for articles (the only reason that the Effort values article hasn't been moved to Base stats is that it's not been decided what name to move the old base stats page to). If someone wants to argue against it actually being the official name, then that's another story. - Blazios talk 12:34, 6 December 2013 (UTC)