Talk:In-battle effect item

Iron Ball

Why is there a point of having an Iron Ball? The only thing that makes it useful is that it gives the most power on the move Fling... Tesh 12:26, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

Trick also combos nicely with it. --DarkfireTaimatsu 19:28, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

You could have the Pokémon holding it use Trick Room and then the Speed cut would become a good thing. Shiny Noctowl 19:39, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

Oh, it just seems like a pointless object. Never mind. Tesh 19:48, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Black Sludge

I've always wondered, is there any advantage to using Black Sludge on a Poison-type Pokémon as opposed to Leftovers? Blink 17:37 16 August 2007 (GMT)

You could use Trick or Switcheroo. Or, if the opponent uses Thief, Covet, Trick, or Switcheroo on the first turn because they don't know what you're holding, and they aren't a Poison-type, they will get hurt. --Shiny Noctowl 16:48, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Or, if you're required to give each Pokémon a different hold item, it's the equivalent of being able to use 2 Leftovers. Zurqoxn 00:04, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

I see. I thought it might restore a little more health or something.