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There is an error in the trivia section. One of the trivia segments states that Gligar and Gliscor are the only dual-type pokemon that are immune to their own type, however Vibrava, Flygon, Baltoy, and Claydol are all dual type and are all immune to their own ground type thanks to their ability, Levitate. - Buddy Christ
== Immunity ==
 
There is an error in the trivia section. One of the trivia segments states that Gligar and Gliscor are the only dual-type pokemon that are immune to their own type, however Vibrava, Flygon, Baltoy, and Claydol are all dual type and are all immune to their own ground type thanks to their ability, Levitate. - Buddy Christ {{unsigned|Buddy Christ}}
:I assume why this hasn't been fixed before is that it probably means without abilities, but eh. [[User:Tina|{{color|E75480|Tina}}]]<sup>[[Special:Contributions/Tina|{{color|E75480|☆}}]][[User talk:Tina|{{color|E75480|♫}}]]</sup> 20:05, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
::Yeah. Certainly, Vibrava and Flygon are invulnerable to Ground due to Levitate, but not due to Dragon. Same with Baltoy and Claydol, since Psychic doesn't have immunity from Ground. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:23, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
:::Then shouldn't the trivia be more specific? It doesn't say that they are the only two pokemon who have one type that is immune to their other type, just that they are the only pokemon immune to their own type. - Buddy Christ {{unsigned|Buddy Christ}}
 
==Gender difference==
If you look well, male's stinger isn't larger: it goes straight, while female's stinger is slightly more hook-like... or comma-like... - [[User:Taylor|Taylor]] 17:34, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
 
== Color? ==
 
Am I the only one that has noticed that Gligar has COMPLETELY changed color? The difference is so radical, it makes me sick. He went from bright pink to dark blue. It's rediculous! [[User:Sidnoea|Sidnoea]] 23:05, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
 
*'' Gligar's colors vary between games and the anime. It is light blue-violet in most sprite artwork and game artwork, dark pink in {{game|Gold and Silver|s}}, blue-purple in {{v2|Platinum}}, regular purple in the high-grade console games such as [[Pokémon Battle Revolution]], and powder-pink in the anime.''
 
:Read the trivia section. <span style="border: 1px solid">[[User:PH1RESTRIKE|<span style="background:Blue; color:#78C850"> |>H1|23</span>]][[Special:contributions/PH1RESTRIKE|•]][[User talk:PH1RESTRIKE|<span style="background:#FFFFFF; color:Green">57R1K3</span>]]</span> 23:13, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
 
== Facehugger ==
 
Am I alone in seeing the similarities between Gligar and the [[wp:Facehugger|Facehugger]] from the movie [[wp:Alien (film)|Alien]]?  Not only is the design a typically-pokémonified version of the Facehugger, but many of its Pokédex entries specifically mention its propensity for latching onto its prey's face.  About the only difference whatsoever is that it doesn't lay its eggs down your throat, it just injects a poison.  Considering the franchise's stance of revealing little-to-nothing about pokémon mating, this is not surprising.  Everything else matches.  [[User:Lostdrewid|Lostdrewid]] 20:18, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
 
It's an interesting similarity, but im sure its coincidence.[[User:Bug Catcher Wade|<span style="color: Purple;">'''Bug Catcher Wade'''</span>]]
 
== Back Sprite ==
Hey, i just noticed this, and it probably applies to more than just gligar, but the back sprite is different from Diamond and Pearl, to HeartGold and SoulSilver.[[User:Bug Catcher Wade|<span style="color: Purple;">'''Bug Catcher Wade'''</span>]] 03:39, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
 
this has been stated before [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 04:04, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
And nothing has been done to note it on the page.[[User:Bug Catcher Wade|<span style="color: Purple;">'''Bug Catcher Wade'''</span>]] 06:23, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
 
== Possible Trivia Addition? ==
 
I'm not quite sure, but it might be possible that Gligar and its evolution are the only pokemon to have only one word in their species name, but have 2 capital letters? '''F'''ly'''S'''corpion? [[User:TheTheDragon14|TheTheDragon14]] 20:40, 3 January 2011 (UTC)TheTheDragon14
:No, there is also an {{p|Pachirisu|EleSquirrel}} Pokémon.----'''''無限の知性''''' ◎ [[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#BF0B17">DENNOU</font>]]'''[[Special:Random|◆]]'''[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#1250A6">ZENSHI</font>]] 20:43, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
 
OK, got it. [[User:TheTheDragon14|TheTheDragon14]] 20:47, 3 January 2011 (UTC)TheTheDragon14
 
== Facehugger ==
It's not a coincidence, actually. Gligar's beta design, as shown here: https://bogleech.com/pokemon/pbetagligar.html
is much more blatantly inspired by the Facehugger, and it's even possible that the name Gligar itself is a portmanteau of "glide" and "H. R. Giger".
[[User:ElSqiubbonator|ElSqiubbonator]] ([[User talk:ElSqiubbonator|talk]]) 16:39, 3 June 2020 (UTC)ElSquibbonator
:As I mentioned on the Shuckle page, beta information are being put aside until we feel it is safe to add them. Though in Gligar's case, it still falls under our "no copyrighted material" rule. We can't mention it unless it is outright stated to be based off of it. (and, off topic, don't respond to comments well over 6 months old, make a new section).--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 16:50, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
 
I'm bringing this back. After looking at more info I can confidently say that Gligar is in fact based in a facehugger.
*The beta design for Gligar is absolutely a cartoony version of the facehugger.
**thread https://twitter.com/DrLavaYT/status/1287070502222049280
**sprite https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EdychyHXkAAhy8X?format=webp&name=tiny https://twitter.com/GrarisBAuris/status/1287075803839238147/photo/1
*Gligar's name is incredibly similar to Giger. H. R. Giger created the Aliens.
*11 out of its 17 pokedex entries describe facehugger behavior. Sometimes in full and sometimes just the actual face-hugging part.
**Gold: It flies straight at its target's face then clamps down on the startled victim to inject poison.
**Stadium 2: It flies straight at its target's face then clamps down on the startled victim to inject poison.
**Ruby/Sapphire: Gligar glides through the air without a sound as if it were sliding. This Pokémon hangs on to the face of its foe using its clawed hind legs and the large pincers on its forelegs, then injects the prey with its poison barb.
**Emerald: It glides without making a single sound. It grasps the face of its foe using its hind and large front claws, then stabs with its poison barb.
**LeafGreen: It flies straight at its target's face then clamps down on the startled victim to inject poison
**Diamond: It sails on the winds with its limbs extended to strike from the sky. It aims for the prey's face.
**HeartGold: It flies straight at its target's face then clamps down on the startled victim to inject poison.
**Black: It glides as if sliding. It startles foes by clamping on their faces, then jabs with its poison stinger.
**Y: It flies straight at its target's face then clamps down on the startled victim to inject poison.
**OR/AS: Gligar glides through the air without a sound as if it were sliding. This Pokémon hangs on to the face of its foe using its clawed hind legs and the large pincers on its forelegs, then injects the prey with its poison barb.
 
I'm not sure how people will see this, but to me it's pretty definite.
--[[User:EmBELLEm|EmBELLEm]] ([[User talk:EmBELLEm|talk]]) 18:20, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
:As I have stated before, it falls under the copyright rule. No copyrighted characters may be used as a possible origin inless it was stated to be based off of it.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 09:02, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
 
New to editing, been browsing for a decade, but H.R. Giger is not a copywrited character, he is a real person and absolutely the inspiration for this creature's name, especially its Japanese name which is his name with an extra letter. Perhaps it can be changed to state that its common association with hugging peoples faces may make its name an homage to H.R.Giger. [[User:Fishfryer|Fishfryer]] ([[User talk:Fishfryer|talk]]) 02:30, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 02:30, 1 July 2023

Immunity

There is an error in the trivia section. One of the trivia segments states that Gligar and Gliscor are the only dual-type pokemon that are immune to their own type, however Vibrava, Flygon, Baltoy, and Claydol are all dual type and are all immune to their own ground type thanks to their ability, Levitate. - Buddy Christ - unsigned comment from Buddy Christ (talkcontribs)

I assume why this hasn't been fixed before is that it probably means without abilities, but eh. Tina 20:05, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
Yeah. Certainly, Vibrava and Flygon are invulnerable to Ground due to Levitate, but not due to Dragon. Same with Baltoy and Claydol, since Psychic doesn't have immunity from Ground. TTEchidna 02:23, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
Then shouldn't the trivia be more specific? It doesn't say that they are the only two pokemon who have one type that is immune to their other type, just that they are the only pokemon immune to their own type. - Buddy Christ - unsigned comment from Buddy Christ (talkcontribs)

Gender difference

If you look well, male's stinger isn't larger: it goes straight, while female's stinger is slightly more hook-like... or comma-like... - Taylor 17:34, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Color?

Am I the only one that has noticed that Gligar has COMPLETELY changed color? The difference is so radical, it makes me sick. He went from bright pink to dark blue. It's rediculous! Sidnoea 23:05, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

  • Gligar's colors vary between games and the anime. It is light blue-violet in most sprite artwork and game artwork, dark pink in Pokémon Gold and Silver, blue-purple in Platinum, regular purple in the high-grade console games such as Pokémon Battle Revolution, and powder-pink in the anime.
Read the trivia section. |>H1|2357R1K3 23:13, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Facehugger

Am I alone in seeing the similarities between Gligar and the Facehugger from the movie Alien? Not only is the design a typically-pokémonified version of the Facehugger, but many of its Pokédex entries specifically mention its propensity for latching onto its prey's face. About the only difference whatsoever is that it doesn't lay its eggs down your throat, it just injects a poison. Considering the franchise's stance of revealing little-to-nothing about pokémon mating, this is not surprising. Everything else matches. Lostdrewid 20:18, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

It's an interesting similarity, but im sure its coincidence.Bug Catcher Wade

Back Sprite

Hey, i just noticed this, and it probably applies to more than just gligar, but the back sprite is different from Diamond and Pearl, to HeartGold and SoulSilver.Bug Catcher Wade 03:39, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

this has been stated before Ataro 04:04, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

And nothing has been done to note it on the page.Bug Catcher Wade 06:23, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

Possible Trivia Addition?

I'm not quite sure, but it might be possible that Gligar and its evolution are the only pokemon to have only one word in their species name, but have 2 capital letters? FlyScorpion? TheTheDragon14 20:40, 3 January 2011 (UTC)TheTheDragon14

No, there is also an EleSquirrel Pokémon.----無限の知性DENNOUZENSHI 20:43, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

OK, got it. TheTheDragon14 20:47, 3 January 2011 (UTC)TheTheDragon14

Facehugger

It's not a coincidence, actually. Gligar's beta design, as shown here: https://bogleech.com/pokemon/pbetagligar.html is much more blatantly inspired by the Facehugger, and it's even possible that the name Gligar itself is a portmanteau of "glide" and "H. R. Giger". ElSqiubbonator (talk) 16:39, 3 June 2020 (UTC)ElSquibbonator

As I mentioned on the Shuckle page, beta information are being put aside until we feel it is safe to add them. Though in Gligar's case, it still falls under our "no copyrighted material" rule. We can't mention it unless it is outright stated to be based off of it. (and, off topic, don't respond to comments well over 6 months old, make a new section).--ForceFire 16:50, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

I'm bringing this back. After looking at more info I can confidently say that Gligar is in fact based in a facehugger.

  • The beta design for Gligar is absolutely a cartoony version of the facehugger.
  • Gligar's name is incredibly similar to Giger. H. R. Giger created the Aliens.
  • 11 out of its 17 pokedex entries describe facehugger behavior. Sometimes in full and sometimes just the actual face-hugging part.
    • Gold: It flies straight at its target's face then clamps down on the startled victim to inject poison.
    • Stadium 2: It flies straight at its target's face then clamps down on the startled victim to inject poison.
    • Ruby/Sapphire: Gligar glides through the air without a sound as if it were sliding. This Pokémon hangs on to the face of its foe using its clawed hind legs and the large pincers on its forelegs, then injects the prey with its poison barb.
    • Emerald: It glides without making a single sound. It grasps the face of its foe using its hind and large front claws, then stabs with its poison barb.
    • LeafGreen: It flies straight at its target's face then clamps down on the startled victim to inject poison
    • Diamond: It sails on the winds with its limbs extended to strike from the sky. It aims for the prey's face.
    • HeartGold: It flies straight at its target's face then clamps down on the startled victim to inject poison.
    • Black: It glides as if sliding. It startles foes by clamping on their faces, then jabs with its poison stinger.
    • Y: It flies straight at its target's face then clamps down on the startled victim to inject poison.
    • OR/AS: Gligar glides through the air without a sound as if it were sliding. This Pokémon hangs on to the face of its foe using its clawed hind legs and the large pincers on its forelegs, then injects the prey with its poison barb.

I'm not sure how people will see this, but to me it's pretty definite. --EmBELLEm (talk) 18:20, 25 July 2020 (UTC)

As I have stated before, it falls under the copyright rule. No copyrighted characters may be used as a possible origin inless it was stated to be based off of it.--ForceFire 09:02, 26 July 2020 (UTC)

New to editing, been browsing for a decade, but H.R. Giger is not a copywrited character, he is a real person and absolutely the inspiration for this creature's name, especially its Japanese name which is his name with an extra letter. Perhaps it can be changed to state that its common association with hugging peoples faces may make its name an homage to H.R.Giger. Fishfryer (talk) 02:30, 1 July 2023 (UTC)