# Difference between revisions of "Talk:Generation VI"

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The redirect here needs to be suppressed, now that gen VI has been announced. Digifiend (talk) 12:49, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

## X and Y.

Since this is going to be a full 3D (instead of 2.5D)... X and Y (as well Z) are the coordinates in 3D. X is horizontal, Y is vertical and Z is depth. Kinda neat reference. Marked +-+-+ (talk) 14:47, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

• Cool theory. Wouldn't be surprised if they did. But for all we know they might do what they did with Generation V and come out with an "X2" and "Y2". But I like your idea. ^_^ ----NateVirus(Talk|Contributions) 00:46, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
WOW, Marked I thought of exactly the same (before reading this talk page). But there's more! Remember Palkia and Dialga? Well, they're the beings of space and time, huh? Well, remeber Reshiram, Zekrom and Kyurem? The dragons of truth, ideals and dreams? Now it gets tricky, remember the differences between Black (2) and White (2)? Old Opelucid, new Opelucid, old way of growing vegetables in Mistralton, new way of growing vegetables in Mistralton? Where, or WHEN, do people find the truth, find their ideals or have dreams about those two? In the past, the future and the present! Wait that has to do with time! Wait Dialga has to do with time! And wth, in the Cartesian coordinate system x and y and z (there's always a third one, of course) represent the 3 dimensions of space! Wait did I say space? Wait Palkia has to do with Space! Nickvang (talk) 19:41, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
On other hand, considering DNA helises in Japanese logos... If they're going by sequels again, we can expect Pokémon W and Pokémon Z. Marked +-+-+ (talk) 20:36, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
This page is not meant for speculation. Please take this conversation over to the forums. --Pokemaster97 21:01, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
Pokemaster I was just going to add this: 'You would expect four legendary mascots!? Well, there are a billion ways for the Pokémon developers to make sequels (if they're not going for a third version once again) without having to create four legends. Like what they did with Kyurem, or maybe they'll give X and Y a new form, so discussing about that won't get you anywhere obvious, and then you'll start speculating...' But pokemaster, can we add the relation between the Caresian coordinate system and the new 3d games on the page? Nickvang (talk) 21:08, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
The staff decided that we will not be adding any trivia about the Caresian coordinate system at this time. --Pokemaster97 22:58, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

## A few errors

There should be a dot after the Eiffel Tower part. Also, surely the last sentence is supposed to say five previous generations, not four. Արիանո 16:33, 8 January 2013 (UTC) Or rather I would say "the regions preceding it". Արիանո 16:39, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

Fixed. Masatoshitalk 19:51, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

## Not "versions"!

Just to point out - it's been made clear in the Pokémon Direct that X and Y are the first two main series games without "Version" in their titles. In other words, they are not "Pokémon X Version and Pokémon Y Version", but "Pokémon X and Pokémon Y". Could this page please be edited to reflect this departure? NP Chilla (talk) 17:36, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

This shows them as X Version and Y Version, so it still follows the tradition, even if unofficially. For now we won't be changing it. Masatoshitalk 19:51, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

## problem

it says they were released as a pair Pikachu Bros. (talk) 19:09, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

Fixed. Masatoshitalk 19:51, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

## With this confirmation...

that means that Generation V is the first Generation that does not have a solitary version? - unsigned comment from Deruffy (talkcontribs)

Don't count your chickens before they hatch. Considering that they made sequels instead of third version, we can't be sure about anything. Marked +-+-+ (talk) 20:48, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

## Region inspiration

"The new region draws inspiration from France" should probably be changed to "The new region appears to draw inspiration from France" until we've seen more of it. There might well just be an Eiffel Tower replica plunked into a PokeCalifornia or something. Yamiidenryuu (talk) 21:24, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

I agree with you on this point. It's honestly too soon to be jumping to conclusions. --Pokemaster97 21:42, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
I think, if I were being really pedantic, even "Appears to draw inspiration from France" could be a little misleading, because it makes it sound like it'll all be France. There are deserts in the trailer, how many deserts does France have? That's more quintessentially Spanish. I'd say the new region "appears to have drawn inspiration from European landmarks, such as the Eiffel Tower in France." But even then, European landmarks is conjecture. Relatively safe conjecture, but still, minefield!! Only thing we can really say is that there's a tower in it that looks a bit French. How do you translate that into Bulbapese? Constantmotion (talk) 00:42, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
Actually, I just watched the trailer back, and the moment where Pikachu shoots lightning across the world, you can see it originates somewhere in Europe. I found this interesting, and given this conversation, an observation perhaps to be worth noting. Rassilon of Old (Talk - Contribs) 01:13, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
I also agree with "appears to have drawn inspiration from European landmarks, such as the Eiffel Tower in France.", since there are many monuments similar to the ones we can see in the trailer, like Blackpool tower in or Buckingam Palace in England, aswell as the radio tower in Alexanderplatz in Berlin, or the city architecture in Italy. Tano (talk) 19:32, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
Good thing that you mentioned the trailer because, if anything, it only serves as further evidence that the games draw inspiration from France because Pikachu is seen actually standing atop the Eiffel tower. People who keep mentioning "how many deserts does France have?" are pretty ridiculous when you take into account the fact that Game Freak has taken a huge amount of artistic freedom in the past (i.e. Unova Route 4). Gacs (talk) 07:47, 13 January 2013 (UTC)
This discussion has trailed off into idle speculation. Please use the forums to carry out this discussion. This topic is being dropped as the page refers to Europe instead of France. Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 10:52, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

## reveal time.

Can we say this generation has the fastest reveal time after a game of the previous generation was released?Deoxys80 (talk) 01:02, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

## "3 new"?

Shouldn't the sidebar say 5 new? They may not be named, but the legendaries shown certainly count as separate, new Pokémon. - unsigned comment from Gadvac (talkcontribs)

It's based on how many Pokémon articles are in the Gen VI category. The Legendary Pokémon don't currently have names, so it's impossible to create an article for them. Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 02:46, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

They were recently revealed with the deer-like Pokémon being Xerneas and the bird-like Pokémon being Yvetal. - unsigned comment from Plusleminun311312 (talkcontribs)

## No images?

Can we get some images of the new overworld/battle system in the gallery, or is there a page where they already exist? -Wohdin (talk) 05:13, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

They're on Pokémon X and Y Versions. --SnorlaxMonster 05:14, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

## Xerneas and Yveltal

Names of the X and Y mascots just confirmed: http://www.pokemon.com/pokemonxy/en-us/ NP Chilla (talk) 14:16, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

"Nintendo of America has revealed the names of the two Legendary Pokemon which will feature in the forthcoming Pokemon X and Pokemon Y for the Nintendo 3DS. The Pokemon X Legendary is called Xerneas, which is pronounced Zurr-nee-us. The Pokemon Y mascot is called Yveltal, which is pronounced ee-vell-tall." - unsigned comment from BritLucifer (talkcontribs)

## Genetic Generation?

Even ignoring that it would be a reference to 3D axes if there were a Pokémon Z, the selling point of this generation is that it is the first generation to be 3D in every sense of the word. I think that's how people will remember this gen, so I thought we would be calling it the 3D generation, similar to how Generation III was called the Advance Generation. X and Y don't have special meaning in genetics outside of sex chromosomes. Even without a Pokémon Z I'd say it's more a reference to the mathematical variables that are used to establish two different things, than to genetics. Like how Black and White are used as metaphors for things that are opposite. That was actually my first reaction when I found out the names of the games, as "Pokémon X and Y" could be used as a term to refer to paired versions in general. Well, what I'm saying is that I would call it the 3D generation. Feel free to disagree, but it would be better than "Genetic Generation". TorchicBlaziken (talkedits) 15:48, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

I agree to an extent - while it is possible it's to do with genetics, it's a bit of a stretch to call it Genetic Generation at such an early point in conception. Also, it does seem a bit less likely for it to be genetics (after all, if it truly were about sex chromosomes, it should be XX and XY, not X and Y. My first thoughts personally were co-ordinates, but that could be wrong, too). Either way, as a wiki, speculation shouldn't be added as fact, right? Thus, "Genetic Generation" should be moved until there is hard evidence that the X and Y do, in fact, represent sex genes. LordSchmee (talk) 16:00, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
Do not forget that Generation IV is already called the 3D generation (even though this Generation is gonna be more 3D than Gen IV) and that there's a small string of DNA in the Japanese logo's of the Games. ☼ BlazingFist ☼ 16:04, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
Well, I guess if there's already a 3D generation we'll just have to leave it until people actually start calling this generation something or Bulbapedia calling it genetic generation carries over to people calling it that, whichever comes first. At least I know why it's called that here now. TorchicBlaziken (talkedits) 16:26, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
Who comes up with these names anyway? I've only ever heard of "Advanced Generation" (which was used in promotion). Everything else seems to be made up. --Dorsal Axe (talk) 16:22, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
I don't think gen VI should be called genetic generation without confirmation. The names of the previous generations had some relation to (at least) the primary paired versions. For e.g., gen II was Metal Generation(Gold and Silver). So the name should have some relation the primary paired versions.Auraguardian197 17:22, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
The "n" in Pocket Monster clearly represents a strand of DNA. Therefore, it's obvious they're referring to the chromosomes, and not the axes. Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 17:27, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
Incidentally, there's a 3D pokeball in the logo and it also uses 3D text. That being said, calling it the "coordinates generation" or something would just be asinine. --Dorsal Axe (talk) 17:46, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
Could it not easily be referencing both? x & y coordinates relating to mathematics, 3D graphics, etc as well as X & Y chromosomes relating to DNA, evolution, pokedarwinism, etc. Also, x and y aren't opposite, they're orthogonal. In fact, none of the version names have been truly "opposite" except MAYBE black and white. --BritLucifer (talk) 18:19, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
To quote Pokemaster97 (from above), "The staff decided that we will not be adding any trivia about the Caresian coordinate system at this time." So, let's just wait until more info comes out. GamerGeek 22:40, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

"YES, Generation VI is confirmed. PLEASE DO NOT ADD SPECULATION TO PAGES. As soon as information is confirmed by a reliable source, it will be added." Because Gen. VI being the "Genetic Generation" is obviously a confirmed fact. I don't understand why it is still there. *~Darklight~* 13:13, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

I'm so sorry to disagree, but this is bothering me too. None of this is confirmed by any reliable source. We can't be sure what that graphic above the n means. I personally think that stating this is the "Genetic Generation" is too bold and premature. If anything, I think both theories are correct; the one on the side of it being the first 3D generation of Pokémon games, and maybe something to do with DNA, that I agree, is present in the Japanese logos of the games anyway. I think it shouldn't be added to the page until something more, like a preview of the games or a glimpse of the next series is out, to see which theory was the closest or actually correct. Come on, we can wait. YukitoOoO (talk) 04:20, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

## no longer 3

Hi, i was just wondering if someone can change the '3 new' hyperlink on the Pokemon section of the side bit, seeing as there's now 5 named Pokemon instead of 3; i'd do it myself but the page is locked, thanks Azure/ChromeVoid42 (talk) 19:00, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

Click the clock at the top of the site. Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 19:26, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

## UK and Aussie Release

You guys forgot to mark the template so that it shows the UK and Aussie release as October 2013 as well. Yamitora1 (talk) 21:04, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

## "Starters"

Is there any confirmation that Chespin, Fennekin, and Froakie are the starters? After the last two generations, it's been proven that we can't assume anything. Bwburke94 (talk) 03:45, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

Yes they are. GamerGeek 23:06, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
It's been confirmed on the official Pokémon website as well. --Mathfreak231 (talk) 14:18, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

The only thing in that subtopic is info about the graphics. Retitle? Ampere (talk) 04:34, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

On some pages, when reading the 'YES, Generation VI is confirmed.' part, the 'Generation VI' is not a link, merely in bold writing, one such page is the page for Last Resort (Sorry for the lack of link to page, not good with links!).TurtleLover1999 (talk) 18:54, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

I think that you mean to put this on the MediaWiki:Sitenotice talk page as it seems to be what you are referring to. Hope that helps a bit.  :) --Super goku (talk) 07:13, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
I don't seem to be getting this problem. Is it still happening? --Pokemaster97 15:04, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
No,I don't think so. I checked last resort article and the link is working.Auraguardian197 16:17, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

## article for ninfia

could we have an article of the recent announced pokemon, "Ninfia"- unsigned comment from Dragon146 (talkcontribs)

Already is one. It is just not in the mainspace right now. --HoennMaster 19:18, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

Today his English name was announced by the Pokémon Company - it's Sylveon. NP Chilla (talk) 13:08, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

## Sylveon

I think Sylveon should be added to the page as the 4th Generation VI Pokémon to have been revealed/announced. CounterShift (talk) 02:25, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, I meant 6th Pokémon. Xerneas and Yveltal appeared first. CounterShift (talk) 02:31, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

## Some trivia to be added...

The Japanese logo of the Pokémon games has been changed once again for Generation VI's releases. ~~LDEJRuff~~ 5:11, 23 February, 2013 (UTC)

## Some pretty obvious trivia

This is the first time the same games are being released at the same time in Japan and the US. Infernapefan95 00:37, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

It would be better to wait until we have an official release date. --Pokemaster97 03:40, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

## Pokemon Sprites/Models

After the game is released, are all Pokemon models going to replace the existing sprites (on the site)? Or just the Gen. 6? Garyoak (talk) 01:07, 10 March 2013 (UTC) !

We can't give a definitive answer right now. They might still use sprites for say the Pokédex or something. We won't know for sure until the games are released. If there are just models, it's possible the sprites will be replaced. Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 01:14, 10 March 2013 (UTC)

## An Error On The Page

The page says that "For the first time, the Pokemon games will be in full 3D." However, Pokemon Coliseum was also completely in 3D, can one of you admins change it to say something like, "For the first time since Pokemon Coliseum, the games will be in full 3D." - unsigned comment from Cowsaidmoo (talkcontribs)

This point is referring to the main series. Colosseum (as well as Stadium 0, 1, 2; XD; and PBR which you missed) is not a main series game. --SnorlaxMonster 07:25, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
Personally I kind of agree with Cowsaidmoo, could you change it to say "For the first time, the main series Pokémon games will be in full 3D."- unsigned comment from IVsaur (talkcontribs)

## "(6 new)"

The page mentions that there are only 6 new pokémon, but they recently revealed the rumored new mewtwo form as a new pokémon as opposed to a mewtwo form, so it should have it's own page, and this page should state that there are 7 new pokémon. Kitty Box (talk) 23:34, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

It has not been given a name yet, nor has it been revealed that it is either a new Pokémon or just a form of Mewtwo. When Black Kyurem and White Kyurem where announced, they were presented as new Pokémon first too. You can't definitely say it is a new Pokémon. So unless there will be confirmation about its status, it won't get a page, nor will anything be changed regarding it on this page. ☼ BlazingFist ☼ 23:46, 8 April 2013 (UTC)