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::::Geko is too. http://thejadednetwork.com/sfx/browse/geko/ "Croaking of a frog." [[User:Zeb|Zeb]] ([[User talk:Zeb|talk]]) 21:45, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
::::Geko is too. http://thejadednetwork.com/sfx/browse/geko/ "Croaking of a frog." [[User:Zeb|Zeb]] ([[User talk:Zeb|talk]]) 21:45, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
:::::Huh, I looked around and couldn't find anything. Thanks! *bookmarks* <sup>[[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup>[[User:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">Jo the Marten</span>]]<sup>[[Flygon (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup> [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">ಠ_ಠ</span>]][[Cilan (anime)|<span style="color:#90C870;">♥</span>]] 22:12, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
:::::Huh, I looked around and couldn't find anything. Thanks! *bookmarks* <sup>[[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup>[[User:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">Jo the Marten</span>]]<sup>[[Flygon (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup> [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">ಠ_ಠ</span>]][[Cilan (anime)|<span style="color:#90C870;">♥</span>]] 22:12, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
::::::Wouldn't it make more sense for the pun in the name to come from kogashira (小頭), head of an organizational section?[[User:KurowaSan|KurowaSan]] ([[User talk:KurowaSan|talk]]) 03:28, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
:::::::Technically, only one species of frog - the [[wp:Pacific Tree Frog|Pacific Tree Frog]] (indigenous to Hollywood, which spread the sound throughout the world via movies and television [hence why ribbit/geko/kero is commonly mistaken to be the sound of all frogs everywhere, and is the onomatopoeia associated with frogs in general]) make the ribbit/geko/kero sound. Frogs bark, bleat, scream, howl, growls, and squawk, or can be simply silent. Frogadier (and [[Froakie]]) appear to be based more on different frogs (i.e. not the Pacific Tree Frog), such as some species of poison dart frog, but I do see your points, and they are perfectly logical.--[[User:ShinyPatch|ShinyPatch]] ([[User talk:ShinyPatch|talk]]) 18:16, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
::::::::Not to be too pedantic, but the Pacific Tree Frog's range is actually the northern Pacific coast. Hollywood is in Southern California, closer to Mexico--I live in the area and I've never seen a Pacific Tree Frog here in my life (too dry, probably). But we do have a few other types of frogs here, and they make vaguely similar vocalizations. Plus, the sound of a croaking frog has been onomatopoeized as geko/kero in Japanese since before the infusion of Hollywood media--I know I've seen it in a pre-20th-century haiku, for example. I don't doubt that the stereotypical, FX-library frog sound used in media is sampled from a Pacific Tree Frog, but Japan has native frogs too, and those frogs most likely make sounds that can be spelt as geko/kero. (Try saying either of those out loud in a froggish voice--it doesn't really sound like "ribbit".) [[User:Lucentas|Lucentas]] ([[User talk:Lucentas|talk]]) 19:28, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
== Height/Weight ==
Weighs 10.9kg (24.0 lbs) and 0.6m (2'00") --<b>[[User:S2daam|<span style="color:#F85888">--s</span><span style="color:#F8D030">a</span><span style="color:#6890F0">m</span><span style="color:#98D8D8">m :D</span>]]</b> 07:49, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
:What's your source? <sup>[[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup>[[User:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">Jo the Marten</span>]]<sup>[[Flygon (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup> [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">ಠ_ಠ</span>]][[Cilan (anime)|<span style="color:#90C870;">♥</span>]] 07:57, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
::High quality scans have leaked (but only for a select few pages) [http://www.dotup.org/uploda/www.dotup.org4487869.jpg] --<b>[[User:S2daam|<span style="color:#F85888">--s</span><span style="color:#F8D030">a</span><span style="color:#6890F0">m</span><span style="color:#98D8D8">m :D</span>]]</b> 07:59, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
== Origin ==
Based off a frog. Also, the whole line takes inspiration from a ninja, which hopefully will become more clear in it's final evolution.  [[User:CoolDudeAl|CoolDudeAl]] ([[User talk:CoolDudeAl|talk]]) 01:23, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
:* I really hope this doesn't sound too much like speculation but seeing what has been stated so far about it's name origin, the inspiration also sounds like it has some Yakuza or Mafia-based influences. (a ninja, mobster frog Pokémon? LAWL)  But as you said, we'll have to wait at least until the final evolution is revealed. (also, I'm now thinking of a funny drawing of [[Toxicroak (Pokémon)|Fr]][[Politoed (Pokémon)|og]] [[Seismitoad (Pokémon)|Poké]][[Froakie (Pokémon)|mon]] called "the Frogfather" or at least that was what I think it was originally called :P...I'll laugh so hard if that ends up being the direction they take...but I'm getting off topic now) ----[[User:NateVirus|<span style="color:blue">NateVirus</span>]]<small>''([[User talk:NateVirus|<span style="color:green">Talk</span>]]''|''[[Special:Contributions/NateVirus|<span style="color:red">Contributions</span>]]''</small>) 21:25, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
== Korean name for Frogadier ==
Its Korean name is 개굴반장 ''Gaegulbanjang''.
* Name meaning coming. -- [[User:Nick15|Nick15]] ([[User talk:Nick15|talk]]) 17:21, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
* OK, it's Korean name meaning is:
:* 개골개골 ''gae'gol-gae'gol''; onomatopoeia for a frog's croaking
:* 반장 (班長) ''banjang''; squad leader, class president, head of association
::* I think "squad leader" is most appropriate, given Frogadier's multiple "military"-esque names. -- [[User:Nick15|Nick15]] ([[User talk:Nick15|talk]]) 18:03, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
Although 개골개골 can fit, I personally think that it just simply comes from 개구리 (frog), to mean frog (squad) leader. --[[User:Wowy|Wowy]] ([[User talk:Wowy|talk]]) 11:58, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
*Although I do realise that many of the other language names have croak as part of the name--[[User:Wowy|Wowy]] ([[User talk:Wowy|talk]]) 12:01, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
== Friend Safari ==
Shouldn't it be mentioned that Frogadier can be obtained through the Friend Safari? Other pages like Braixen doesn't mention this either. [[User:Ext|Ext]] ([[User talk:Ext|talk]]) 02:50, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
:Not yet. Some time ago, the matter was debated, and though there was a vast majority favoring adding it, how it will be added is being worked on last time I've heard. [[User:Berrenta|Berrenta]] ([[User talk:Berrenta|talk]]) 02:54, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
== Height ==
Wait a minute, how come you revert my edits, Frogadier is the shortest of the second-stage evolutions of starter Pokémon. I should check {{u|Force Fire/Trivia Policy|Force Fire's trivia policy}}. --[[User:Cinday123|<span style="color:pink">Cinday123</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:Cinday123|<span style="color:lightblue">Talk</span>]])''</small> 04:05, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
:That group is far too small and that trivia far too specific to be notable. [[User:Crystal Talian|<span style="color:#9F00C5">Crystal</span>]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|<span style="color:#FF00FF">Talian</span>]] 07:14, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
::So Frogadier is the shortest of all second-stage starters? --[[User:Cinday123|<span style="color:pink">Cinday123</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:Cinday123|<span style="color:lightblue">Talk</span>]])''</small> 07:22, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
:::It is. But it's not worth noting on the page. [[User:Crystal Talian|<span style="color:#9F00C5">Crystal</span>]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|<span style="color:#FF00FF">Talian</span>]] 07:30, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
== Anime picture ==
Because there is a picture of Frogadier in the anime, can we add it with Froakie or just itself alone? --[[User:Cinday123|<span style="color:pink">Cinday123</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:Cinday123|<span style="color:lightblue">Talk</span>]])''</small> 06:36, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
== It's Gekogashira, not Gekogahshier ==
Just wanted to say, I might be misinformed when I say this, but isn't the official Japanese romanization of this Pokemon's name "Gekogashira" rather than "Gekogahshier"? I've seen quite a few official products that say "Gekogashira" so I was just curious where you guys got the name "Gekogahshier".
--[[User:TheMaskedMeowth|TheMaskedMeowth]] ([[User talk:TheMaskedMeowth|talk]]) 19:23, 28 June 2015 (UTC)
:It's Gekogashira, officially :D [http://p3.i.ntere.st/436a62393aa8a02965b199df2a62af33_480.jpg] --[[User:DarkPikaDex123|DarkPikaDex123]] ([[User talk:DarkPikaDex123|talk]]) 18:37, 24 October 2015 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 18:37, 24 October 2015

This Pokémon's nam is from Gecko maybe?--Viv (talk) 14:46, 11 September 2013 (UTC)

Geckos are lizards, not frogs. It's probably some Japanese onomatopoeia and Wakagashira. Ataro (talk) 14:50, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
Yeah, "Geko" is the Japanese version of "ribbit." Me, Hurray! (talk) 20:05, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
Actually "kero" is the sound a frog makes. Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 20:17, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
Geko is too. http://thejadednetwork.com/sfx/browse/geko/ "Croaking of a frog." Zeb (talk) 21:45, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
Huh, I looked around and couldn't find anything. Thanks! *bookmarks* Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 22:12, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
Wouldn't it make more sense for the pun in the name to come from kogashira (小頭), head of an organizational section?KurowaSan (talk) 03:28, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
Technically, only one species of frog - the Pacific Tree Frog (indigenous to Hollywood, which spread the sound throughout the world via movies and television [hence why ribbit/geko/kero is commonly mistaken to be the sound of all frogs everywhere, and is the onomatopoeia associated with frogs in general]) make the ribbit/geko/kero sound. Frogs bark, bleat, scream, howl, growls, and squawk, or can be simply silent. Frogadier (and Froakie) appear to be based more on different frogs (i.e. not the Pacific Tree Frog), such as some species of poison dart frog, but I do see your points, and they are perfectly logical.--ShinyPatch (talk) 18:16, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
Not to be too pedantic, but the Pacific Tree Frog's range is actually the northern Pacific coast. Hollywood is in Southern California, closer to Mexico--I live in the area and I've never seen a Pacific Tree Frog here in my life (too dry, probably). But we do have a few other types of frogs here, and they make vaguely similar vocalizations. Plus, the sound of a croaking frog has been onomatopoeized as geko/kero in Japanese since before the infusion of Hollywood media--I know I've seen it in a pre-20th-century haiku, for example. I don't doubt that the stereotypical, FX-library frog sound used in media is sampled from a Pacific Tree Frog, but Japan has native frogs too, and those frogs most likely make sounds that can be spelt as geko/kero. (Try saying either of those out loud in a froggish voice--it doesn't really sound like "ribbit".) Lucentas (talk) 19:28, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

Height/Weight

Weighs 10.9kg (24.0 lbs) and 0.6m (2'00") ----samm :D 07:49, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

What's your source? Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 07:57, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
High quality scans have leaked (but only for a select few pages) [1] ----samm :D 07:59, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

Origin

Based off a frog. Also, the whole line takes inspiration from a ninja, which hopefully will become more clear in it's final evolution. CoolDudeAl (talk) 01:23, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

  • I really hope this doesn't sound too much like speculation but seeing what has been stated so far about it's name origin, the inspiration also sounds like it has some Yakuza or Mafia-based influences. (a ninja, mobster frog Pokémon? LAWL) But as you said, we'll have to wait at least until the final evolution is revealed. (also, I'm now thinking of a funny drawing of Frog Pokémon called "the Frogfather" or at least that was what I think it was originally called :P...I'll laugh so hard if that ends up being the direction they take...but I'm getting off topic now) ----NateVirus(Talk|Contributions) 21:25, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

Korean name for Frogadier

Its Korean name is 개굴반장 Gaegulbanjang.

  • Name meaning coming. -- Nick15 (talk) 17:21, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
  • OK, it's Korean name meaning is:
  • 개골개골 gae'gol-gae'gol; onomatopoeia for a frog's croaking
  • 반장 (班長) banjang; squad leader, class president, head of association
  • I think "squad leader" is most appropriate, given Frogadier's multiple "military"-esque names. -- Nick15 (talk) 18:03, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Although 개골개골 can fit, I personally think that it just simply comes from 개구리 (frog), to mean frog (squad) leader. --Wowy (talk) 11:58, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

  • Although I do realise that many of the other language names have croak as part of the name--Wowy (talk) 12:01, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

Friend Safari

Shouldn't it be mentioned that Frogadier can be obtained through the Friend Safari? Other pages like Braixen doesn't mention this either. Ext (talk) 02:50, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

Not yet. Some time ago, the matter was debated, and though there was a vast majority favoring adding it, how it will be added is being worked on last time I've heard. Berrenta (talk) 02:54, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

Height

Wait a minute, how come you revert my edits, Frogadier is the shortest of the second-stage evolutions of starter Pokémon. I should check Force Fire's trivia policy. --Cinday123 (Talk) 04:05, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

That group is far too small and that trivia far too specific to be notable. Crystal Talian 07:14, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
So Frogadier is the shortest of all second-stage starters? --Cinday123 (Talk) 07:22, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
It is. But it's not worth noting on the page. Crystal Talian 07:30, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

Anime picture

Because there is a picture of Frogadier in the anime, can we add it with Froakie or just itself alone? --Cinday123 (Talk) 06:36, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

It's Gekogashira, not Gekogahshier

Just wanted to say, I might be misinformed when I say this, but isn't the official Japanese romanization of this Pokemon's name "Gekogashira" rather than "Gekogahshier"? I've seen quite a few official products that say "Gekogashira" so I was just curious where you guys got the name "Gekogahshier".

--TheMaskedMeowth (talk) 19:23, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

It's Gekogashira, officially :D [2] --DarkPikaDex123 (talk) 18:37, 24 October 2015 (UTC)