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Now then, onto the origin of the white round dots upon its face. These dots, coupled with the foam pouch and white glove-like markings it has seems to indicate that Froakie's possible origin is that of the image of Japanese folklore thieves and robbers, an example drawing of said thief/robber design can be seen [http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk231/050294/thief.jpg here]. The foam backpack of sorts upon Froakie resembles that of the thief's furoshiki, a japanese cloth bag seen on the image of said thief that they carry their loot in. The dots resemble the ends of another furoshiki tied upon the thief's nose, used as a mask of sorts to hide the thief's/robber's identities. The gloves are also simply a sort of thief/robber general stereotype as well. This seems to indicate that Froakie may posisbly end up as a dark type upon evoluton; this guessing of type, however, is just pure speculation on my part. - [[User:050294|050294]] ([[User talk:050294|talk]]) 00:23, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
 
Now then, onto the origin of the white round dots upon its face. These dots, coupled with the foam pouch and white glove-like markings it has seems to indicate that Froakie's possible origin is that of the image of Japanese folklore thieves and robbers, an example drawing of said thief/robber design can be seen [http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk231/050294/thief.jpg here]. The foam backpack of sorts upon Froakie resembles that of the thief's furoshiki, a japanese cloth bag seen on the image of said thief that they carry their loot in. The dots resemble the ends of another furoshiki tied upon the thief's nose, used as a mask of sorts to hide the thief's/robber's identities. The gloves are also simply a sort of thief/robber general stereotype as well. This seems to indicate that Froakie may posisbly end up as a dark type upon evoluton; this guessing of type, however, is just pure speculation on my part. - [[User:050294|050294]] ([[User talk:050294|talk]]) 00:23, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
 
:I think he looks a bit more... professorial than that. The little blobs look more like glasses than a knot. They're not attached to anything, for a start. Plus, I don't think many thieves wear white. I reckon they're meant to resemble pince-nez. Big, white, flowing hair on the back, like a professor, or a composer, or a judge. Could be wrong, though! You might be entirely right - and it's a great spot of research either way, fun read! [[User:Constantmotion|Constantmotion]] ([[User talk:Constantmotion|talk]]) 10:04, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
 
:I think he looks a bit more... professorial than that. The little blobs look more like glasses than a knot. They're not attached to anything, for a start. Plus, I don't think many thieves wear white. I reckon they're meant to resemble pince-nez. Big, white, flowing hair on the back, like a professor, or a composer, or a judge. Could be wrong, though! You might be entirely right - and it's a great spot of research either way, fun read! [[User:Constantmotion|Constantmotion]] ([[User talk:Constantmotion|talk]]) 10:04, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
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::Actually the dots are "connected" to the pouch via the blue stripe upon its head which lead down its back which I feel, for this specific Japanese robber image, is pretty fitting considering the openness of their furoshiki masks and perhaps the one stripe being the only connector may have simply been implemented just to emphasize this trait. Also, I wouldn't take color into origin consideration. Pokemon don't necessaroly have to be matching the origin with color. Sometimes with specific references, like in delibird's case, correct colors are vital. However, most Pokemon are either colored in bright, odd colors or ones that match with it's typing; Froakie being blue not because of the thief origin but rather because of it's water typing, like how Heatmor is bright red like fire instead of normal anteater colors. Also, thank you for the compliment! I really enjoy analyzing things so origins, or at least their speculations and research, are my specialty! - [[User:050294|050294]] ([[User talk:050294|talk]]) 14:28, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
   
 
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Revision as of 14:28, 10 January 2013

It's suggested that the name comes from Frog and Croak. While this is possible, it would be strange for it to not reference water in some way. Another possible pair of words for it to come from is Frog and Soak. The "ie" could be just a diminutive, of course. Aielyn (talk) 00:25, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

Design Origin

Shouldn't we add that it appears to be based on a tree frog? --CoolDudeAl (talk) 01:32, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

Name Origin

Froth (as in to bubble) could also be a possibility for the English name. --CoolDudeAl (talk) 01:34, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

Considering that the French name is partially derived from "mousse" and it would be odd to have a double animal name derivation rather than say an animal name and a water reference, I'll bet it really is "froth" + "croak" too --Joec (talk) 20:42, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

How about Frog + Soak/Croak + Soapy? AmaranthSparrow (talk) 21:56, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

Froakie's Possible Origins

Just posting this in the discussion in case people may have problems with this: Froakie's inspiration seems to be based upon a few factors, most notably its foam pouch is based upon various species of frogs whom create foam nests for their eggs to keep safe in. These foam nests are formed from the frog's behinds and, while creating them, eventually envelop the backs of the parent frogs, hence the backpack resemblance Froakie's foam pack has and why it is located upon its back. This seems to also match up with Froakie's japanese name, as it contains matsu which translates to bubble or foam. Here's an example image of a frog and its foam nest. Unfortunately, I am not quite sure which exact species of foam nest making frogs Froakie may have been based on.

Now then, onto the origin of the white round dots upon its face. These dots, coupled with the foam pouch and white glove-like markings it has seems to indicate that Froakie's possible origin is that of the image of Japanese folklore thieves and robbers, an example drawing of said thief/robber design can be seen here. The foam backpack of sorts upon Froakie resembles that of the thief's furoshiki, a japanese cloth bag seen on the image of said thief that they carry their loot in. The dots resemble the ends of another furoshiki tied upon the thief's nose, used as a mask of sorts to hide the thief's/robber's identities. The gloves are also simply a sort of thief/robber general stereotype as well. This seems to indicate that Froakie may posisbly end up as a dark type upon evoluton; this guessing of type, however, is just pure speculation on my part. - 050294 (talk) 00:23, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

I think he looks a bit more... professorial than that. The little blobs look more like glasses than a knot. They're not attached to anything, for a start. Plus, I don't think many thieves wear white. I reckon they're meant to resemble pince-nez. Big, white, flowing hair on the back, like a professor, or a composer, or a judge. Could be wrong, though! You might be entirely right - and it's a great spot of research either way, fun read! Constantmotion (talk) 10:04, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
Actually the dots are "connected" to the pouch via the blue stripe upon its head which lead down its back which I feel, for this specific Japanese robber image, is pretty fitting considering the openness of their furoshiki masks and perhaps the one stripe being the only connector may have simply been implemented just to emphasize this trait. Also, I wouldn't take color into origin consideration. Pokemon don't necessaroly have to be matching the origin with color. Sometimes with specific references, like in delibird's case, correct colors are vital. However, most Pokemon are either colored in bright, odd colors or ones that match with it's typing; Froakie being blue not because of the thief origin but rather because of it's water typing, like how Heatmor is bright red like fire instead of normal anteater colors. Also, thank you for the compliment! I really enjoy analyzing things so origins, or at least their speculations and research, are my specialty! - 050294 (talk) 14:28, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

Ability

If the gender rate is already put in as the norm for all starters, shouldn't the ability (torrent) be put in too?

The gender rate is just there because there HAS to be a gender ratio, otherwise the template breaks. But we can exclude abilities without breaking the template. Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 02:08, 10 January 2013 (UTC)