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== "Pure" ==
That "pure" blurb is actually inaccurate in two ways, as Missingno. is of the {{t|Bird}} -type if I recall correctly, and anyone with half a brain knows there are no pure-flyings. [[User:Evkl|Evkl]] 20:58, 26 Mar 2005 (UTC)
That "pure" blurb is actually inaccurate in two ways, as Missingno. is of the {{t|Bird}} -type if I recall correctly, and anyone with half a brain knows there are no pure-flyings. [[User:Evkl|Evkl]] 20:58, 26 Mar 2005 (UTC)


==Pure Flying?==
==Pure Flying?==
Hey, I was wondering, in Diamond/Pearl, when [[Arseus (Pokémon)|アルセウス]] uses the Blue Sky Plate, doesn't he become '''pure''' Flying? [[User:DanPMK|MK]] 02:19, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
Hey, I was wondering, in Diamond/Pearl, when [[Arceus (Pokémon)|アルセウス]] uses the Blue Sky Plate, doesn't he become '''pure''' Flying? [[User:DanPMK|MK]] 02:19, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
:In all technicalities, it should. As does Porygon/2/Z when it uses Conversion/2, or Kecleon, insome instances.
:In all technicalities, it should. As does Porygon/2/Z when it uses Conversion/2, or Kecleon, insome instances.


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==Flying Trivia==
==Flying Trivia==
the trivia states that there are no animals that are primarly in the air, but there are certain species of swifts that spend the majority of their lives in the air, landing only for nesting [[User:Goldkear|Goldkear]] 21:46, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
the trivia states that there are no animals that are primarly in the air, but there are certain species of swifts that spend the majority of their lives in the air, landing only for nesting. of course without any pokemon based on the swift, it still makes sense there are no pure flying type[[User:Goldkear|Goldkear]] 21:46, 18 July 2010 (UTC)


== Sorry... ==
== Sorry... ==
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==Pluck?==
==Pluck?==
Pluck is stated to do double damage when the foe is holding a berry.  I believe this to be incorrect.  SPP's move dex says the same as this page; however Smogon and my own experiences would lead me to disagree.  The page for Pluck does not make this claim, either. [[User:TheBeardedRobot|TheBeardedRobot]] 08:00, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
Pluck is stated to do double damage when the foe is holding a berry.  I believe this to be incorrect.  SPP's move dex says the same as this page; however Smogon and my own experiences would lead me to disagree.  The page for Pluck does not make this claim, either. [[User:TheBeardedRobot|TheBeardedRobot]] 08:00, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
== new pure flying type!? ==
i heard on another site (one that has one full-time editor) that in gen 5 there will be a PURE flying type, he himself said that there will be around 649 mon to collect in gen V --[[User:Torterra2234|Earthquake!]] 16:27, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
:Yes, but the person who posted that has yet to provide any information about where they got that information, meaning that it could well just be speculation. Once it has been confirmed by an ''official'' source, then it can be added. <span class="sc">[[User:Werdnae|<span style="color:#2D4B98;">Werdnae</span>]]</span> <small>[[User talk:Werdnae|<span style="color:#009000;">(talk)</span>]]</small> 20:39, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
::Besides, {{tt|Serebii or Water Pokémon Master|the two who said this stuff}} even said not to 100% trust their sites. [[User:Turtwig A|<font color="#CD7F32">Turtwig's</font>]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|<font color="#FF7F00">A-B-Cs</font>]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|<font color="#green">talk</font>]] |  [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|<font color="#yellow">contribs</font>]]) 20:42, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
apparently its true, I saw three of the legendary pokemon from the list in pictures, so the rest should be confirmed.--[[User:Makupe|Makupe]] 22:06, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
:still not confirmed [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 22:08, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
::Pictures can be faked you know. [[User:Turtwig A|<font color="#CD7F32">Turtwig's</font>]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|<font color="#FF7F00">A-B-Cs</font>]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|<font color="#green">talk</font>]] |  [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|<font color="#yellow">contribs</font>]]) 22:39, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
well those pictures didnt contain it, but now i found the REAL picture of the pure Flying-type.--[[User:Makupe|Makupe]] 20:35, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
==Pure Flying and Roost==
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQI-khPHGtg&feature=sub Here it is proven that Pure Flying type in Gen V who uses Roost becomes a normal type. This is not a joke or a prank. Please do not delete my edit. I'm citing evidence here. --[[User:Ryuutakeshi|Ryuutakeshi]] 18:06, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
:Delete your edit? Never dream of it. Now get back to your nasty little forum, Mister Ryuu.... ;) &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 01:40, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
:: Oh alright. But I'm watching you sneaky wiki mods. I know your kind ;-) --[[User:Ryuutakeshi|Ryuutakeshi]] 05:49, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
== possible trivia ==
* The Flying-type is the type with most two-turn moves, with a total of four moves.
can this be added? --[[User:SamuStar|SamuStar]] 20:02, 20 September 2011 (UTC)
:''"Please remember to follow the manual of style and code of conduct at all times. Also, check out our IRC channel at #bulbapedia. Note: 1. Do not add any trivia. 2. Userspace editing has been reduced to allow only one edit per day."'' --BP ♣♣ ''[[User:Focus58|<font color="Red">Ƒǿҫὑṩ</font>]] [[User talk:Focus58|<font color="olive">❺❽</font>]]'' ♣♣ 20:21, 20 September 2011 (UTC)
I can read and I know there is this rule, that's why I asked on the talk page -.- It's really annoying to receive answers like this --[[User:SamuStar|SamuStar]] 15:17, 21 September 2011 (UTC)
== How is Normal/Flying not immune to Ghost ? ==
When there is dual type then both types are involved, since normal is immune to ghost, shouldn't normal/flying be as well ? I found that complexes to phrase --[[User:Japhes|Japhes]] ([[User talk:Japhes|talk]]) 00:34, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
:It is immune.  Is there something on this page that makes it seem otherwise? --[[User:Funktastic~!|<span style="color:#009900">'''It's'''</span> <span style="color:#CC66FF">'''Funktastic~!'''</span>]][[User talk:Funktastic~!|<sub><small><span style="color:#99CCFF">''話してください''</span></small></sub>]] 00:38, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
::As Normal is immune to Ghost, the entire Pokémon is immune. When a Pokémon has a type that is immune to one type, the entire Pokémon is immune. From a mathematical standpoint, if all Pokémon types are given a number that is multiplied when determining how much damage a move inflicts, a type like Normal would have the number 0 is a Ghost type move is used against it. When the game determines how much damage is done, this number is taken into affect and multiplied by the number of the second type. So for example, if a Ghost move is used on a Normal flying, Flying's multiplier is 1, Normal's is 0, and Ghost's is 1 (1.5 if a STAB is gained). In all circumstances, unless the Normal type can be negated, 1 (Flying's number)x0 (Normal's number) = 0 (Number by which Ghost's multiplier is multiplied), and 0x1 (Ghost number) = 0 (damage inflicted). These numbers is just a small portion of what is taken in when damage is inflicted on an opposing Pokémon, --[[User:NOBODY|NOBODY]] ([[User talk:NOBODY|talk]]) 13:22, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
Okay just looked on Pidgey page, it may because I was looking on here.--[[User:Japhes|Japhes]] ([[User talk:Japhes|talk]]) 18:04, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
== Trivia ==
A point of trivia on the page says that Tornadus is the only Pokemon with primary Flying type.  Can a staff member remove it? --[[User:Funktastic~!|<span style="color:#009900">'''It's'''</span> <span style="color:#CC66FF">'''Funktastic~!'''</span>]][[User talk:Funktastic~!|<sub><small><span style="color:#99CCFF">''話してください''</span></small></sub>]] 18:39, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
== Type pairings ==
The trivia said that the only type not paired with Flying is Fighting, and that it's tied with {{t|Water}} with the most type pairings. This is outdated. So far, there is no {{t|Fairy}}/Flying yet either, but it may change when all the Generation VI Pokémon are revealed. As of now, the Water type has the honor of being paired with the most types even after the new type reveal, as Marill was changed to Water/Fairy. [[User:Berrenta|Berrenta]] ([[User talk:Berrenta|talk]]) 15:57, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
:I think it's a good idea to leave trivia like this alone until everything's revealed and we know for sure what is and isn't going to happen in X and Y. Rushing to change every minor thing like this immediately will just lead to some things getting left out, changed incorrectly, or removed and then having to be re-added when new information arises. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 17:26, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
::Thanks for clearing that up. I agree, we should wait and see if one is revealed. It'll be easier that way. [[User:Berrenta|Berrenta]] ([[User talk:Berrenta|talk]]) 23:49, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
== Flying Press ==
So, what's the ruling on including Flying Press on the move list for this page? It is technically a Flying-type move. --[[User:RiverAura|<font color="#00CCFF">River</font>]][[User_Talk:RiverAura|<font color="#00FFCC">Aura</font>]] 19:06, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
::It actually is a Fighting-type move. The move's power is amplified by neither Hawlucha's Flying STAB or the Flying Gem. --<b>[[User talk:Relicant|<span style="color:#EBEBEB;">The</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Relicant|<span style="color:#F08030;">Truth</span>]]</b> aka Relicant 19:24, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

Revision as of 19:24, 30 November 2013

"Pure"

That "pure" blurb is actually inaccurate in two ways, as Missingno. is of the Bird -type if I recall correctly, and anyone with half a brain knows there are no pure-flyings. Evkl 20:58, 26 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Pure Flying?

Hey, I was wondering, in Diamond/Pearl, when アルセウス uses the Blue Sky Plate, doesn't he become pure Flying? MK 02:19, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

In all technicalities, it should. As does Porygon/2/Z when it uses Conversion/2, or Kecleon, insome instances.
Hm, anyone know what happens to a dual-type Pokémon when it skill swaps Kecleon's ability? Tom Temprotran 12:05, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Nope. Let's try it out :D. On an unrelated not, never try to catch Registeel in a Nest Ball. Alakazam 2

Flying Trivia

the trivia states that there are no animals that are primarly in the air, but there are certain species of swifts that spend the majority of their lives in the air, landing only for nesting. of course without any pokemon based on the swift, it still makes sense there are no pure flying typeGoldkear 21:46, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

Sorry...

Heh, I'm new to Bulbapedia and might have caused a few problems when I edited some of the articles. I'm sorry for that... I just spotted out some things nobody else seemed to notice (such as how can people not notice how Chikorita is orange in Gold and Silver?) If I cause anymore problems, just let me know on my page and I'll fix it. User:Linkoman 21:50, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Cyrus

Should Cyrus really have the right to be called a flying "specialist." I mean he does have a good portion of flying pokemon but he has only one less dark pokemon so I think he should be taken off. Any takers? BrokenMotor 21:52, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

Completely coincidental. Removed. —darklordtrom 22:08, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

Pluck?

Pluck is stated to do double damage when the foe is holding a berry. I believe this to be incorrect. SPP's move dex says the same as this page; however Smogon and my own experiences would lead me to disagree. The page for Pluck does not make this claim, either. TheBeardedRobot 08:00, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

new pure flying type!?

i heard on another site (one that has one full-time editor) that in gen 5 there will be a PURE flying type, he himself said that there will be around 649 mon to collect in gen V --Earthquake! 16:27, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

Yes, but the person who posted that has yet to provide any information about where they got that information, meaning that it could well just be speculation. Once it has been confirmed by an official source, then it can be added. Werdnae (talk) 20:39, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
Besides, Serebii or Water Pokémon Master even said not to 100% trust their sites. Turtwig's A-B-Cs (talk | contribs) 20:42, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

apparently its true, I saw three of the legendary pokemon from the list in pictures, so the rest should be confirmed.--Makupe 22:06, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

still not confirmed Ataro 22:08, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
Pictures can be faked you know. Turtwig's A-B-Cs (talk | contribs) 22:39, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

well those pictures didnt contain it, but now i found the REAL picture of the pure Flying-type.--Makupe 20:35, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

Pure Flying and Roost

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQI-khPHGtg&feature=sub Here it is proven that Pure Flying type in Gen V who uses Roost becomes a normal type. This is not a joke or a prank. Please do not delete my edit. I'm citing evidence here. --Ryuutakeshi 18:06, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Delete your edit? Never dream of it. Now get back to your nasty little forum, Mister Ryuu.... ;) —darklordtrom 01:40, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
Oh alright. But I'm watching you sneaky wiki mods. I know your kind ;-) --Ryuutakeshi 05:49, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

possible trivia

  • The Flying-type is the type with most two-turn moves, with a total of four moves.

can this be added? --SamuStar 20:02, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

"Please remember to follow the manual of style and code of conduct at all times. Also, check out our IRC channel at #bulbapedia. Note: 1. Do not add any trivia. 2. Userspace editing has been reduced to allow only one edit per day." --BP ♣♣ Ƒǿҫὑṩ ❺❽ ♣♣ 20:21, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

I can read and I know there is this rule, that's why I asked on the talk page -.- It's really annoying to receive answers like this --SamuStar 15:17, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

How is Normal/Flying not immune to Ghost ?

When there is dual type then both types are involved, since normal is immune to ghost, shouldn't normal/flying be as well ? I found that complexes to phrase --Japhes (talk) 00:34, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

It is immune. Is there something on this page that makes it seem otherwise? --It's Funktastic~!話してください 00:38, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
As Normal is immune to Ghost, the entire Pokémon is immune. When a Pokémon has a type that is immune to one type, the entire Pokémon is immune. From a mathematical standpoint, if all Pokémon types are given a number that is multiplied when determining how much damage a move inflicts, a type like Normal would have the number 0 is a Ghost type move is used against it. When the game determines how much damage is done, this number is taken into affect and multiplied by the number of the second type. So for example, if a Ghost move is used on a Normal flying, Flying's multiplier is 1, Normal's is 0, and Ghost's is 1 (1.5 if a STAB is gained). In all circumstances, unless the Normal type can be negated, 1 (Flying's number)x0 (Normal's number) = 0 (Number by which Ghost's multiplier is multiplied), and 0x1 (Ghost number) = 0 (damage inflicted). These numbers is just a small portion of what is taken in when damage is inflicted on an opposing Pokémon, --NOBODY (talk) 13:22, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

Okay just looked on Pidgey page, it may because I was looking on here.--Japhes (talk) 18:04, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

Trivia

A point of trivia on the page says that Tornadus is the only Pokemon with primary Flying type. Can a staff member remove it? --It's Funktastic~!話してください 18:39, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

Type pairings

The trivia said that the only type not paired with Flying is Fighting, and that it's tied with Water with the most type pairings. This is outdated. So far, there is no Fairy/Flying yet either, but it may change when all the Generation VI Pokémon are revealed. As of now, the Water type has the honor of being paired with the most types even after the new type reveal, as Marill was changed to Water/Fairy. Berrenta (talk) 15:57, 14 June 2013 (UTC)

I think it's a good idea to leave trivia like this alone until everything's revealed and we know for sure what is and isn't going to happen in X and Y. Rushing to change every minor thing like this immediately will just lead to some things getting left out, changed incorrectly, or removed and then having to be re-added when new information arises. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 17:26, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for clearing that up. I agree, we should wait and see if one is revealed. It'll be easier that way. Berrenta (talk) 23:49, 14 June 2013 (UTC)

Flying Press

So, what's the ruling on including Flying Press on the move list for this page? It is technically a Flying-type move. --RiverAura 19:06, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

It actually is a Fighting-type move. The move's power is amplified by neither Hawlucha's Flying STAB or the Flying Gem. --The Truth aka Relicant 19:24, 30 November 2013 (UTC)