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:::And does a status ailment (such as [[paralysis]]) get cured after fainting and being [[revive|revived]]? --[[User:Enervation|Enervation]] 17:04, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
 
:::And does a status ailment (such as [[paralysis]]) get cured after fainting and being [[revive|revived]]? --[[User:Enervation|Enervation]] 17:04, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
 
::::Turns out I was wrong about Shedinja. I tried it in Gen III and IV and the Rare Candy revived it. Don't know about Gen V. Shedinja will not accept HP Ups (and presumably Health Wings too). HP Ups and Health Wings do not restore health at 0HP (in Gens III, IV and V at least). Status ailments do disappear. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 12:25, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
 
::::Turns out I was wrong about Shedinja. I tried it in Gen III and IV and the Rare Candy revived it. Don't know about Gen V. Shedinja will not accept HP Ups (and presumably Health Wings too). HP Ups and Health Wings do not restore health at 0HP (in Gens III, IV and V at least). Status ailments do disappear. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 12:25, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
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How accurate is this translation? I looked it up on Google Translate and it gives me something like "on the brink." I find it hard to believe that Pokémon actually ''die'' in the Japanese version, as the concept of death is shown to be distinct from fainting. I also can't find anything else online that suggests this, and I'd actually think it would be a widespread rumor (consistent with the observation that Japanese media are often "watered down" for Western consumption, I could see someone believing that "faint" is a euphemism for die)
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Moreover, [http://web.archive.org/web/20100501090040/http://www.time.com/time/asia/magazine/99/1122/pokemon6.fullinterview2.html this interview] with Tajiri shows that he explicitly wanted Pokémon not to die in the game.
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:Someone seems to have misunderstood me. This isn't a question about the topic of fainting, it's a question about the article "[[Fainting]]," specifically the accuracy of the translation of the Japanese, thus I don't think it is "suited for the forums." Anyway, upon further examination it looks like the term means something like "on the verge of death" or "near death." So perhaps "dying" may be ''technically'' correct, but it still seems strange to me. '''<code>[[User:Abwayax|abwayax]] ([[User talk:Abwayax|t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Abwayax|c]])</code>'''

Revision as of 01:27, 13 September 2011

Fainting in Battle Tower affects Happiness?

While I know that fainting is ideally avoided whenever possible, what if it's for the sake of strategy in the Battle Tower series of fights where moves like Explosion are used to their full potential?

In this case, will fainting (intended or otherwise) affect happiness if it occurs in the Battle Tower?

HechEff 14:45, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

I think no effects of battle in Battle Tower are permanent, including fainting. — Laoris (Blah) 16:41, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. Good to know I need not to worry about how it affects Pokémon who act as suicide bombers as a last resort. HechEff 17:13, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Filling out sections

  • Can you trade a fainted Pokémon?
  • I don't have my game in front of me to test, but can you give an item to a Pokémon to hold?
  • Can you rename a fainted Pokémon?
  • Can a fainted Pokémon be put into daycare?

These are totally things that could go in this article. I'll probably come back and fill some in when I have my games handy. Jazzmoth 03:18, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Pretty much anything except battle. When put into the daycare, it will come out fully healed, same goes for a status condition. — THE TROM — 03:20, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
I don't think it matters though... ht14 03:37, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

Money loss

I really don't believe half of your money gets taken when all your Pokémon faint. I think it depends on who you're fighting. When I lost to Cynthia, I lost about less than a quarter. --ケンジガール 09:47, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, it's not. I think it might have been in Gen I or Gen II, though... but there definitely is a different, specific formula to given prize money in Gen IV and presumably in Gen III too. I had something around 80,000 and lost to Pearl's Infernape at Survival Area, and I'd remember giving out something about 7,500. UltimateSephiroth (about me · chat · edits) 09:53, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Merge

I think Unable to battle would be a great In the Anime section in this page. It's much shorter, so it would be easier to copy-paste, plus it is sort of like a type of fainting. Does that make sense? Jazzmoth 05:11, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Yeah... CuboneKing 05:15, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
Agreed. Takharii ~ Talk! 05:59, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
I approve. Add TCG and manga sections too. —darklordtrom 06:09, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
I honestly think that this is a good idea, in my opinion. An "In the anime" section would be very useful. I always thought that those were the same thing. ----Zewis29 (Talk, Contribs) 11:00, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
This, really, should've been done years ago...--ForceFire 12:14, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, it should be merged. Flyingtypefan 07:31, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

Manga

We have the Anime and games but what about the manga? ReaNintendo 21:57, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

Because manga info has the tendency to be forgotten....a lot. Ataro 22:06, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

Rare Candy Revivals

What if you use a Rare Candy on someone like Shedinja. It doesn't recover from fainting, right? --Enervation 15:05, 30 August 2011 (UTC)

If a Pokémon doesn't gain any HP upon level up, it will not be revived, so Shedija will tay fainted. --SnorlaxMonster 15:10, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
If that's true, then you might want to change what it says on Shedinja's triva. (Shedinja is the only Pokémon that has its HP restored to maximum when leveled up with a Rare Candy or revived with a Revive.) FrankTheTank000 15:49, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
What about giving your Pokémon more HP effort values from a HP Up or 4 Health Wings? --Enervation 16:39, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
And does a status ailment (such as paralysis) get cured after fainting and being revived? --Enervation 17:04, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
Turns out I was wrong about Shedinja. I tried it in Gen III and IV and the Rare Candy revived it. Don't know about Gen V. Shedinja will not accept HP Ups (and presumably Health Wings too). HP Ups and Health Wings do not restore health at 0HP (in Gens III, IV and V at least). Status ailments do disappear. --SnorlaxMonster 12:25, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

Dying

How accurate is this translation? I looked it up on Google Translate and it gives me something like "on the brink." I find it hard to believe that Pokémon actually die in the Japanese version, as the concept of death is shown to be distinct from fainting. I also can't find anything else online that suggests this, and I'd actually think it would be a widespread rumor (consistent with the observation that Japanese media are often "watered down" for Western consumption, I could see someone believing that "faint" is a euphemism for die)

Moreover, this interview with Tajiri shows that he explicitly wanted Pokémon not to die in the game.

abwayax (t/c) 01:16, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

Someone seems to have misunderstood me. This isn't a question about the topic of fainting, it's a question about the article "Fainting," specifically the accuracy of the translation of the Japanese, thus I don't think it is "suited for the forums." Anyway, upon further examination it looks like the term means something like "on the verge of death" or "near death." So perhaps "dying" may be technically correct, but it still seems strange to me. abwayax (t/c)