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The sun & moon shards are NOT related to the sun & moon stones. They are simply used as an alternative to the happiness method, allowing the player to select either Umbreon or Espeon WITHOUT ending up with the evolution opposite of what they want because it is too happy at the wrong time of day.

I think it's more that XD can't read the GCN clock, for whatever reason, and because they wanted to allow people to get any of the Eeveelutions instantly. Besides, the Oval Stone's here... and that's a held item. In fact, I'd wonder whether or not Moss Rock and Ice Rock belong here, too. --TTEchidna 16:34, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
I'd say that only items that you use on a Pokémon to evolve them instantly should be here. -Happy Mask Man 18:23, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

Can't you read TTEchidna? That's what I meant!Gatogirl

What you said was that it was as an alternative to Happiness, which would imply that the day/night happiness was accessible in XD. And anyway, what other point do either the Sun or Moon Shards have besides evolution? Metal Coat evolves by attachment, Razor Claw evolves by attachment, but both of them have another purpose. --TTEchidna 16:41, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

In Emerald, does the Everstone have any effect other than preventing evolution? I ask because it seems as though all time-based effects, like berries growing, stop whenever pokemon in my party are holding an Everstone. But maybe it's just a coincidence, and the berries not growing is unrelated... --Waterboy 20:02, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

No, in Emerald the only thing it does is stop evolution and if you give it to a Pokemon in the breeding center, it has a 50% chance of passing down the holder's nature to the baby. TinaTheKirliaFile:281MS.gif 02:53, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Water stone locations

In pokemon crystal I got a water stone from Fisher Tully. Perhaps other ways of getting the various stones should be mentioned or something. Also google says that Danna Lass gives Thunderstones. These are only in crystal though, but still worth mentioning.

--Scwizard 17:37, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

PokéGear. I'll add them in, I guess. TTEchidna 22:15, 19 October 2007 (UTC) there any other place besides giving a Blue Shard to that one guy in Emerald to get a Water Stone? D: Tina δ 02:16, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Thunderstone in New Mauville

There is a Thunderstone in New Mauville (at least in "Pokémon Emerald"). Shouldn't it be mentioned?

If there actually is one, then yes it should be mentioned486PokeManiac102492 14:40, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Moon/Sun Shard

Despite the fact that there is the item Moon Shard and Sun Shard, can evolve via normal means, or is there no timeframe, similar to FR and LG? Also, is it an item that is transferrable to the GBA games? ht14 14:25, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Never mind... ht14 22:22, 3 March 2009 (UTC)


does it actually have a 50% chance of passing on the nature if given to a female mating with a ditto. Ive hatched 5 so far and Sassy has come up twice. Which isnt the nature i want. --Guardian of Earth |SGMS 2010 13:13, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

There's another 50 left. tc26 13:16, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
Yeah but where is the proof for this. It looks like fanon, and now ive hatched 7 youd expect at least one to have the nature. --Guardian of Earth |SGMS 2010 13:21, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
It depends on the percentage and YOUR luck everytime. Even if you hatch a million, you might not get the desired nature. I had experiences like that and mine was more that ten. Just BE PATIENT. tc26 13:47, 30 August 2008 (UTC) I hate it when the site has problems.
It also depends on the game. Everstone breeding does not work in any games before Emerald. IIMarckus 00:44, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Firestone and Thunderstone!?

What about:

Leaf Stone
Moon Stone

So this:

So far, only Generation I Pokémon can use the Fire Stone and Thunderstone, only Generation II Pokémon
can use the Dusk Stone, and only Generation III Pokémon can use the Dawn Stone.

The Moon Stone, Leaf Stone, and Water Stone are the only stones introduced in one generation that evolve
Pokémon introduced in a later generation.

is false.

D.S.B. Pan·da·mo·ni·a 20:18, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

What exactly are you saying is false? The Moon Stone evolves Skitty...Leaf Stone evolves Nuzleaf...and Water evolves Lombre. -Sketch 20:21, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
Probably the wording in the second half. "a later generation" does not apply to the Dusk and Dawn stones. Other than that, it looks okay to me. --Galladeon 21:05, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
Oh, I thought it said that G1 pokes could only use the Fire Stone and Thunderstone. Pan·da·mo·ni·a 01:53, 27 May 2009 (UTC)