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I don't get it. My male tyranitar with dark pulse won't pass the move onto a newborn charmander. Why not?--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 16:50, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
 
I don't get it. My male tyranitar with dark pulse won't pass the move onto a newborn charmander. Why not?--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 16:50, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
 
:Charmander can't learn Dark Pulse by any method. So it will never have it as a newborn. <span class="sc">[[User:Werdnae|<span style="color:#2D4B98;">Werdnae</span>]]</span> <small>[[User talk:Werdnae|<span style="color:#009000;">(talk)</span>]]</small> 18:37, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
 
:Charmander can't learn Dark Pulse by any method. So it will never have it as a newborn. <span class="sc">[[User:Werdnae|<span style="color:#2D4B98;">Werdnae</span>]]</span> <small>[[User talk:Werdnae|<span style="color:#009000;">(talk)</span>]]</small> 18:37, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
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== Possible Correction Regarding Gen III Mechanics ==
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I was using a CodeBreaker GBA device to experiment with the mechanics behind breeding in FireRed, and found that if I inserted an artificially designed Pokemon that knew moves that it normally should not in to a box in my PC, withdrew it and placed in in the Daycare with a breeding-compatible Pokemon, the impossible move would be passed on two the offspring, even if said move was not possible for the offspring to normally learn either.
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Here's a case scenario:
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A Male Charmander that has been created with a normal moveset with the exception of one move: Perish Song. Normally a Charmander cannot learn this move.
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A Female Marowack with an ordinary moveset (unhacked).
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When bred, I produced a Cubone which knew Perish Song, despite the fact Cubone too should not be able to learn the move.
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I just think it's an interesting anecdote regarding breeding-mechanics that, at least in FireRed, it appears that during the breeding process, the game assumes that the father's moveset is valid and does not actually check it (which makes sense in normal circumstances) when passing moves on to offspring. This may be useful should future glitches that could result from this lack of checking, are discovered.

Revision as of 06:17, 11 July 2011

Moves listed as "Start" on Pokemon that cannot be obtained through breeding

Pokemon at the top of the evolutionary chain, which cannot be obtained through breeding, have moves listed as "Start". For example, Togekiss learns aura sphere at the start, but there is no way to breed a Togekiss, as it is at the top of the evolutionary chain. Also, legendary Pokemon have moves listed at start, but they have no egg group. Can somebody explain this? - unsigned comment from Dreeb (talkcontribs)

No, egg moves are those gained in breeding, not at the "start". Start moves can only be learned through the move relearner. —darklordtrom 04:44, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Plural?

Why is the title Egg moves, instead of Egg move? --SnorlaxMonster 08:37, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

It's not any more. Titles should be in the singular. —darklordtrom 08:46, 20 May 2010 (UTC)


Huston, I Have a Confusion

I bred the following two Pokémon:

Spr 4d 321.png
Types:
Water Unknown
Ability:
Oblivious
Held item:
None
Moby Lv.54
Water Spout
Water Unknown
Amnesia
Psychic Status
Dive
Water Physical
Bounce
Flying Physical
Spr 4d 190 f.png
Types:
Normal Unknown
Ability:
Pickup
Held item:
None
Aipom Lv.36
Baton Pass
Normal Status
Tickle
Normal Physical
Fury Swipes
Normal Physical
Fling
Dark Physical

And the offspring was

Spr 4d 190 f.png
Types:
Normal Unknown
Ability:
Run Away
Held item:
None
Aipom Lv.1
Scratch
Normal Physical
Tail Whip
Normal Status
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With Aipom only knowing its two start moves. Shouldn't it have known Bounce, one of its egg moves? The only reason I can come up with is that Wailord learned Bounce in the Day-Care and wasn't taken out until after he bred with Aipom.

Please help! ----Zewis (29) 11:15, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

Your only reason is right. Put them back in the daycare and try again, the eggs should hatch into Bounce Aipom this time. - unsigned comment from Missingno. Master (talkcontribs) 12:00, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
Thank you a lot. I'll try it. ----Zewis (29) 14:09, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

More confusion from someone else

I don't get it. My male tyranitar with dark pulse won't pass the move onto a newborn charmander. Why not?--Celibi25 16:50, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Charmander can't learn Dark Pulse by any method. So it will never have it as a newborn. Werdnae (talk) 18:37, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Possible Correction Regarding Gen III Mechanics

I was using a CodeBreaker GBA device to experiment with the mechanics behind breeding in FireRed, and found that if I inserted an artificially designed Pokemon that knew moves that it normally should not in to a box in my PC, withdrew it and placed in in the Daycare with a breeding-compatible Pokemon, the impossible move would be passed on two the offspring, even if said move was not possible for the offspring to normally learn either.

Here's a case scenario:

A Male Charmander that has been created with a normal moveset with the exception of one move: Perish Song. Normally a Charmander cannot learn this move. A Female Marowack with an ordinary moveset (unhacked).

When bred, I produced a Cubone which knew Perish Song, despite the fact Cubone too should not be able to learn the move.

I just think it's an interesting anecdote regarding breeding-mechanics that, at least in FireRed, it appears that during the breeding process, the game assumes that the father's moveset is valid and does not actually check it (which makes sense in normal circumstances) when passing moves on to offspring. This may be useful should future glitches that could result from this lack of checking, are discovered.