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: Kan-Laon is a deity of time in the {{wp|Philippine mythology}}. And yourname, {{wp|Bakunawa}} is a Philippine dragon that was said to swallow the moon! Dude, are you a Filipino? Looks like I've found a friend! Me a Filipino too! Mabuhay ang {{wp|Pilipinas}}!^_^[[User:Palkia38|Palkia38]] 09:29, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
: Kan-Laon is a deity of time in the {{wp|Philippine mythology}}. And yourname, {{wp|Bakunawa}} is a Philippine dragon that was said to swallow the moon! Dude, are you a Filipino? Looks like I've found a friend! Me a Filipino too! Mabuhay ang {{wp|Pilipinas}}!^_^[[User:Palkia38|Palkia38]] 09:29, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
::There don't seem to be ''any'' similarities besides the fact that Dialga and Kan-Laon are both time deities, so I don't see why we should.—[[User:Urutapu|Loveはドコ?]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] <small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 00:41, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
::There don't seem to be ''any'' similarities besides the fact that Dialga and Kan-Laon are both time deities, so I don't see why we should.—[[User:Urutapu|Loveはドコ?]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] <small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 00:41, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
Cameosaurus? I couldn't find such a thing on the internet. [[User:Takkupanda|Takkupanda]] ([[User talk:Takkupanda|talk]]) 18:33, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
:Thanks for the clarification, Gudon44. [[User:Takkupanda|Takkupanda]] ([[User talk:Takkupanda|talk]]) 13:08, 26 May 2014 (UTC)


== Browser entry? ==
== Browser entry? ==
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Why don't wee just make [[Dialga (anime)]] and [[Palkia (anime)]] to the main sections of the anijme versions of {{p|Dialga}} and {{p|Palkia}}? it is impossible to have multiple creators and rulers of time and space, aswell as mutliple [[Arceus (Pokémon)|multiple creators]] of the {{pkmn|universe}}. [[User:Pokémon Lover King Mario|Pokémon Lover King Mario]] 09:21, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
Why don't wee just make [[Dialga (anime)]] and [[Palkia (anime)]] to the main sections of the anijme versions of {{p|Dialga}} and {{p|Palkia}}? it is impossible to have multiple creators and rulers of time and space, aswell as mutliple [[Arceus (Pokémon)|multiple creators]] of the {{pkmn|universe}}. [[User:Pokémon Lover King Mario|Pokémon Lover King Mario]] 09:21, 3 October 2009 (UTC)


:Not if they are the lords of ALL time, space, and the universe. They travel the dimensions, because they created them. You might think of alternate realities/parallell dimensions, but they created those too. And basically, you're also saying we should delete the [[Giratina (anime)]] page too because he was in one movie. '''[[Team Rocket|<small><span style="color: #550000;">R.A.</span></small>]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Hunter</font></small>]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Blade</font></small>]]''' 22:39, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
:Not if they are the lords of ALL time, space, and the universe. They travel the dimensions, because they created them. You might think of alternate realities/parallell dimensions, but they created those too. And basically, you're also saying we should delete the {{mov|Giratina}} page too because he was in one movie. '''[[Team Rocket|<small><span style="color: #550000;">R.A.</span></small>]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Hunter</font></small>]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Blade</font></small>]]''' 22:39, 5 October 2009 (UTC)


::Uhm, I think you might have misunderstood me a bit. I said that it only can be one creator each of time and space. Therefore, their situation is different from legendaries like {{p|Articuno}} or {{p|Heatran}}, as they basically have no function anywhere close to that. Sure, Heatran created [[Stark Mountain]]... but if it's more Heatrans in the anime, anyone of them can do so. Unlike Arceus, which it only can be one of - after all, he was the ORIGINAL One and created the friggin universe. According to the Sinnoh myths, which is canon in addition to official as they WAS WRITTEN by [[Game Freak]], Arceus only made ''one'' creator and ruler of time, and only ''one'' creator of space - Dialga and Palkia. And no, I have never said that we should delete Giratina (anime) because of that ridicouls reason - we having someting in the rules called [[Bulbapedia:Notability requirements|notability requirements]], which Giratina (anime) that Giratina and most other articles about movie Pokémon fits perfectly. [[User:Pokémon Lover King Mario|Pokémon Lover King Mario]] 18:33, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
::Uhm, I think you might have misunderstood me a bit. I said that it only can be one creator each of time and space. Therefore, their situation is different from legendaries like {{p|Articuno}} or {{p|Heatran}}, as they basically have no function anywhere close to that. Sure, Heatran created [[Stark Mountain]]... but if it's more Heatrans in the anime, anyone of them can do so. Unlike Arceus, which it only can be one of - after all, he was the ORIGINAL One and created the friggin universe. According to the Sinnoh myths, which is canon in addition to official as they WAS WRITTEN by [[Game Freak]], Arceus only made ''one'' creator and ruler of time, and only ''one'' creator of space - Dialga and Palkia. And no, I have never said that we should delete Giratina (anime) because of that ridicouls reason - we having someting in the rules called [[Bulbapedia:Notability requirements|notability requirements]], which Giratina (anime) that Giratina and most other articles about movie Pokémon fits perfectly. [[User:Pokémon Lover King Mario|Pokémon Lover King Mario]] 18:33, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
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Do we really need to say that day is a unit of time?
Do we really need to say that day is a unit of time?
[[User:Mpcamel1729|Origami is math for the hands. -Martin Grant, MathPath]] 02:23, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
== Moves ==
There seem to be some moves missing from the list. For example, Dialga can learn Outrage via move tutor, and Dragon Pulse via TM. Is there a reason for this? {{unsigned|Roosterton}}
:That list is only for the [[Generation V]] games, where there is no tutor who will teach Outrage and Dragon Pulse is not a TM. The [[Generation IV]] list is [[Dialga (Pokémon)/Generation IV learnset|here]], accessable by clicking the "IV" in the "Other generations" part at the top of each table. <span class="sc">[[User:Werdnae|<span style="color:#2D4B98;">Werdnae</span>]]</span> <small>[[User talk:Werdnae|<span style="color:#009000;">(talk)</span>]]</small> 19:33, 26 December 2011 (UTC)
== Pokedex Entry ==
For the Pokémon Ranger: Shadows of Almia entry, with the mention of "Powerful Beam" leading to hyper beam. Wouldn't it be more likely that it's talking about [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Roar_of_Time_(move) Roar of Time?] [[User:Nevan|Nevan]] 17:54, 2 March 2012 (UTC)
== This bit of trivia ==
'''"Dialga is the second Pokémon in the Pokémon Mystery Dungeon series to feature an alternate coloration that is not its shiny coloration, the first being Kecleon."'''
Forgive me if I missed something, but I thought "seconds", "thirds" and so on were not notable as trivia? Cheers, [[User:Haxorus|<span style="color:#968428">'''Hax'''</span>]][[User talk:Haxorus|<span style="color:#4C4646">'''or'''</span>]][[Special:MyContributions|<span style="color:#800517">'''us'''</span>]] 05:20, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
== Additional Trivia ==
Should it be noted in the trivia section that Dialga; despite being a dragon type; doesn't take super-effective damage from either of the types dragon is usually weak too(dragon and ice) due to its secondary typing(steel)? [[User:Venus253|Venus253]] 17:45, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
:It is there. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 18:08, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
But it only says it doesn't take damage from dragon type moves. Says nothing about the neutrality of ice towards it D: [[User:Venus253|Venus253]] 15:55, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
::Because {{p|Kyurem}} exists, which makes the trivia useless since it's not unique to Dialga. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 16:22, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
I suppose that's right; but Kingdra, Palkia, and Reshiram also are dragon-types who aren't weak to ice types. I'm just trying to contribute a little because my birthday is Saturday and I want to edit my profile by then. o.O I'm not making excuses; I just really want to open my profile to changes(never knew it was a privilege) [[User:Venus253|Venus253]] 17:26, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
== Dialga on M18 ==
I think we should put Dialga's appearance in the next movie as a major one instead of a minor. Also, its the same Dialga reappearing in the film because only one Dialga exists in the Pokémon world.
Harmonmj13 17:36, 21 February 2015 (UTC)Harmonmj13
:What has said that it's a major appearance? Also, who's to say it's the same Dialga? Arceus is able to make new Dialga when it wants. [[User:Litwick96|Litwick96]] ([[User talk:Litwick96|talk]]) 17:49, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
:But would it lead to both Dialgas fighting each other resulting in the possible end of time in the world? Harmonmj13 19:49, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
::What does that have to do with anything? That's a theoretical situation that doesn't change a lack of evidence that the Dialga from the upcoming movie has anything to do with the Sinnoh movies. [[User:Litwick96|Litwick96]] ([[User talk:Litwick96|talk]]) 22:40, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
== Getting Dialga's Pokedex Entry When You Have Pearl Version ==
How do you get Dialga entered into the Pokedex when you have Pearl version and can only catch Palkia?
(Likewise, how would one get Palkia entered into the Pokedex when they have Diamond version and can only catch Dialga?) {{unsigned|Mcheetah}}
:Trading.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 09:31, 8 May 2015 (UTC)

Revision as of 09:31, 8 May 2015

Most resistances

Hmm, Dialga does not have the most resistances, the Magnemite and its evolutions do, with one immunity and twelve resistances, two of them being doubly strong, albeit having more weaknesses. I'll make a change.

Japanese pronunciation

Why do you people believe it's japanese name is "Dialga" when it's really Diaruga? Unsigned comment by IDeoxys

Same thing. Dialga is the romanized version.--ElectAbuzzzz 19:38, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
Diaruga is how it's pronounced, but the official Nintendo romanization is Dialga. --TTEchidna 23:45, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
Remember that ル is how Japanese people write "l" and "ru"; despite the fact that they are limited in writing, they pronounce "l" - just with an accent. Kanjo 13:24, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Capture Dialga

Dialga is realy hard to catch - unsigned comment from 23water23 (talkcontribs) 12:20, 6 September 2007

Dialga and Palkia are the easiest legendaries to catch. I caught my Dialga in the first turn with a Quick Ball. --FabuVinny T-C-S 12:43, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
Are you kidding me?? All I had to do is change the clock to make it "night" and I caught Palkia with a Dusk Ball. Never waste your Master Ball on something like Dialga or Palkia. Dialgarules 22:17, 29 October 2008 (UTC)


It's funny, cuz everyone wastes their master ball on him, when you should use it on Regigigas, or Cresselia. LordKaien 20:22, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

I still have my masterball, I caught palkia with a pokeball (no lie, he was asleep with no health left)C is for Cookie 20:29, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
From my experiance, Dialga and Palkia is the most easiest legendary to capture. Never, ever, ever use a Master Ball. A huge waste. DragonTamer 06:49, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Anybody know that Dialga and Palkia have the same catch rate as a Chatot? Uxie Legend 13:16, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

I caught mine with a normal Pokéball while he was at half health and he kept on resisting my ultra balls no status problems or anything.

Unique levels to be found at.

This was recently removed from the trivia section on this page: "* Dialga and Palkia are the only two legends who's levels are not a multiple of 10. Meaning, you meet all other legends at levels 30,40,50 and so on, but those two you meet at Lv. 47." It was removed because Kyogre and Groudon are both found at level 45. My question then is, couldn't we just change the 10 to a 5 in that quote and keep it on the page? --Ozzie 21:39, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Well, if the trivia item was spelled that wrong, what with "who's" instead of the correct "whose" and a "you" or two in there, I can see why it was removed. It's an interesting bit of trivia, though, that D and P are the only legends met at a level that isn't an even multiple of 5. TTEchidna 06:17, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
In platinum, Giratina will be found at level 47 aswell Kanjo 13:32, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
I decided to put up the aforementioned fact about Dialga and Palkia's levels. I put it like this:

"Dialga and Palkia are the first legendary Pokémon to be seen at a level that is not divisible by 5, appearing at Level 47." SharKing 03:28, 24 August 2008 (UTC)SharKing

I changed First to onlyDCM
I disagree with that. Like Kanjo said, Giratina will be at 47 in Platinum. SharKing 22:37, 24 August 2008 (UTC)SharKing
Site your sources.Rayquaza was found at level 70 compared to whatever level Groudon adn Kyogre were found in ther respective gamesDCM
Umm....Regigigas in Platinum... ht14 22:23, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Trivia

Here it says that Celebi can control the time, but Celebi just can TRAVEL in the time. Dialga is the only pokemon that can control the time (unless Arceus also can) --Nick. 21:27, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

The only way to be able to travel through time is to control it...•Pokemaniac102 21:30, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

should we mention the fact that dialga becomes primal dialga when it loses control over time in Pokémon time explorers in the trivia?--Nobody777 14:34, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Catch Rate?

It says it the Trivia Section that Palkia, Dialga, and Phione, are the legendary that has the highest catch rate. But what about Shaymin? It has a catch rate of 45! Palkia38 03:43, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Well, its weird that Giratina is harder to catch than Dialga or Palkia. Weirder still, there are still other weak pokémon that is harder to catch. DragonTamer

It was easier for me to catch Giratina in my game than Dialga. --Pokemonfreak 12:12, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

Origin

Should we put Kan-Laon because it is similar to dialga --Bakunawa 07:11, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

Kan-Laon is a deity of time in the Philippine mythology. And yourname, Bakunawa is a Philippine dragon that was said to swallow the moon! Dude, are you a Filipino? Looks like I've found a friend! Me a Filipino too! Mabuhay ang Pilipinas!^_^Palkia38 09:29, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
There don't seem to be any similarities besides the fact that Dialga and Kan-Laon are both time deities, so I don't see why we should.—Loveはドコ? (talk contribs) 00:41, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Cameosaurus? I couldn't find such a thing on the internet. Takkupanda (talk) 18:33, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the clarification, Gudon44. Takkupanda (talk) 13:08, 26 May 2014 (UTC)

Browser entry?

How is its browser entry currently unknown? Surely someone can extract it, plus Palkia and Shaymin's entries, from the game's data? Y'know, like what's done to find out base stats? I would be glad to do this, if I knew how. - unsigned comment from Missingno. Master (talkcontribs) 12:55, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Anime section

Why don't wee just make Dialga (anime) and Palkia (anime) to the main sections of the anijme versions of Dialga and Palkia? it is impossible to have multiple creators and rulers of time and space, aswell as mutliple multiple creators of the universe. Pokémon Lover King Mario 09:21, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

Not if they are the lords of ALL time, space, and the universe. They travel the dimensions, because they created them. You might think of alternate realities/parallell dimensions, but they created those too. And basically, you're also saying we should delete the Giratina page too because he was in one movie. R.A. Hunter Blade 22:39, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
Uhm, I think you might have misunderstood me a bit. I said that it only can be one creator each of time and space. Therefore, their situation is different from legendaries like Articuno or Heatran, as they basically have no function anywhere close to that. Sure, Heatran created Stark Mountain... but if it's more Heatrans in the anime, anyone of them can do so. Unlike Arceus, which it only can be one of - after all, he was the ORIGINAL One and created the friggin universe. According to the Sinnoh myths, which is canon in addition to official as they WAS WRITTEN by Game Freak, Arceus only made one creator and ruler of time, and only one creator of space - Dialga and Palkia. And no, I have never said that we should delete Giratina (anime) because of that ridicouls reason - we having someting in the rules called notability requirements, which Giratina (anime) that Giratina and most other articles about movie Pokémon fits perfectly. Pokémon Lover King Mario 18:33, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Dragon duo typing and appearance

this may be speculation but

wouldnt it make sense to put in the trivia section that Palkia and dialga's typing corresponds with the gem they have?

hard diamond has a steel hard master of time while smooth Pearl has water type considering pearls come from water

also I've noticed that palkia has some fish traits to it (the wiings look like fins) which also live in the water (palkia it'self swims through space which it controls) and dialga's dinosaur appearance can be connected to time (some of the first living creatures)

(Ataro 21:50, 28 May 2010 (UTC))

Based on "Amphicoelias" fragillimus?

I have no idea how people deduce that. To most people, "Amphicoelias" would appear as Diplodocus did in Walking With Dinosaurs, not like a brachiosaurid or something. Granted that a 45* neck angle now seems probable in most if not all sauropods, but why single out "A". fragillimus and not something more well known, such as good old Brachiosaurus (which i must say resembles Diagla far more). I mean, theres debate as to weather "A". fragillimus is even valid, so if you must use a diplodocid, why not Diplodocus itself, or perhaps even Apatosaurus (ignore the ridiculous notion that "Amphicoelias brontodiplodocus" represents all diplodocids from the morrison formation). Spinodontosaurus 20:26, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

Name

Do we really need to say that day is a unit of time? Origami is math for the hands. -Martin Grant, MathPath 02:23, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

Moves

There seem to be some moves missing from the list. For example, Dialga can learn Outrage via move tutor, and Dragon Pulse via TM. Is there a reason for this? - unsigned comment from Roosterton (talkcontribs)

That list is only for the Generation V games, where there is no tutor who will teach Outrage and Dragon Pulse is not a TM. The Generation IV list is here, accessable by clicking the "IV" in the "Other generations" part at the top of each table. Werdnae (talk) 19:33, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

Pokedex Entry

For the Pokémon Ranger: Shadows of Almia entry, with the mention of "Powerful Beam" leading to hyper beam. Wouldn't it be more likely that it's talking about Roar of Time? Nevan 17:54, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

This bit of trivia

"Dialga is the second Pokémon in the Pokémon Mystery Dungeon series to feature an alternate coloration that is not its shiny coloration, the first being Kecleon."

Forgive me if I missed something, but I thought "seconds", "thirds" and so on were not notable as trivia? Cheers, Haxorus 05:20, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

Additional Trivia

Should it be noted in the trivia section that Dialga; despite being a dragon type; doesn't take super-effective damage from either of the types dragon is usually weak too(dragon and ice) due to its secondary typing(steel)? Venus253 17:45, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

It is there. Ataro 18:08, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

But it only says it doesn't take damage from dragon type moves. Says nothing about the neutrality of ice towards it D: Venus253 15:55, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

Because Kyurem exists, which makes the trivia useless since it's not unique to Dialga. Ataro 16:22, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

I suppose that's right; but Kingdra, Palkia, and Reshiram also are dragon-types who aren't weak to ice types. I'm just trying to contribute a little because my birthday is Saturday and I want to edit my profile by then. o.O I'm not making excuses; I just really want to open my profile to changes(never knew it was a privilege) Venus253 17:26, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

Dialga on M18

I think we should put Dialga's appearance in the next movie as a major one instead of a minor. Also, its the same Dialga reappearing in the film because only one Dialga exists in the Pokémon world. Harmonmj13 17:36, 21 February 2015 (UTC)Harmonmj13

What has said that it's a major appearance? Also, who's to say it's the same Dialga? Arceus is able to make new Dialga when it wants. Litwick96 (talk) 17:49, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
But would it lead to both Dialgas fighting each other resulting in the possible end of time in the world? Harmonmj13 19:49, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
What does that have to do with anything? That's a theoretical situation that doesn't change a lack of evidence that the Dialga from the upcoming movie has anything to do with the Sinnoh movies. Litwick96 (talk) 22:40, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

Getting Dialga's Pokedex Entry When You Have Pearl Version

How do you get Dialga entered into the Pokedex when you have Pearl version and can only catch Palkia?

(Likewise, how would one get Palkia entered into the Pokedex when they have Diamond version and can only catch Dialga?) - unsigned comment from Mcheetah (talkcontribs)

Trading.--ForceFire 09:31, 8 May 2015 (UTC)