Talk:Dawn (anime)

Gary?!

May I see the proof that Gary's gonna be traveling with Hikari and Ash in DP? -PikamasterADV

It's a possible theory but there is certainly no confirmation. I've removed it for now. --FabuVinny 21:50, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

I wanted to ask the same thing.I highly doubt Shigeru would be the travel companion anyway. -Sketchies 02:26, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

Disambiguation Page?

Just curious.. Why does Hikari have her information split up into a disambiguation page? Why isn't her information on an entire page and seperated into different sections (like Brock and Misty)? --Puff 13:35, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Consider May and Red. These are considered separate, distinct characters. - 振霖_T 14:34, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Ah! Gotcha, thank you. --Puff 17:25, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Dawn?

Where did you hear that Hikari's English name was Dawn? I'd like to check it out. Carnivine

Cartoon Network. - Paperfairy @ 20:35 03/19/2007 EST

Voicing Dawn?

I'm skeptical about if Emily Williams/Emlyn Morinelli is truly voicing Dawn or not. No VA has been listed for her in the main cast, which I'm sure is what's causing this confusion. But Dawn does not sound particularly similar to other character's she's voiced, such as Officer Jenny, Zoey, or Lucy. I'm really feeling it's a completely different VA. - unsigned comment from Shift (talk • contribs)

Perhaps the information about her voicing Dawn should be removed, as it is currently unconfirmed. --PAK Man ^Talk 16:27, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Okay, there's official confirmation now: it's Emily Jenness, also known as Emily Bauer. I just made her a page on the main Wikipedia, so go check it out.Shift 06:22, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Yeah I coulld tell when Dawn talks she sounds like that cute Brianna also voiced by Jenness Livinlarge18 12:17, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Legendary Pokemon

Which was the legendary Pokémon that she saw? File:Ani448MS.gifJmathFile:Ani447MS.gifTalkFile:Ani448MS.gif 14:14, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Mesprit, or to be more specific its soul (see Pearl Pokédex).--Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 13:13, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

about the trivia section...

Look, I think that the part In regards to her being the first of ash's friends to have her debut episode dedicated completely to herself has to be tweaked a bit. I mean, yes, it is true that Dawn recieved far more development in this episode than any of Ash's friends prior to her, but it is still far from completely dedicated to herself. I mean, If Ash never appeared At All during the episode (Meaning, not even the ending of the episode.), then, yes, she definitely would have had her debut completely to herself. But, since Ash has appeared in the episodes end, we shouldn't really say that it is completely dedicated to herself. If anything, we should say that she has the most development in her debut episode out of all of Ash's friends. now, if you don't want it to change, that's fine by me. I just wanted to let you know.

~~Weedle_Mchairybug~~

This article is really nothing more than Trivia section composed of silly trivia bits. The entire trivia section should be cut a bit. --Maxim 20:09, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

The episode was completely dedicated to Dawn. So Ash had 30 seconds at the end. That doesn't make a difference. My point was that she had more of a premier than the rest of Ash's friends. But Maxim's right. Maybe some of the trivia should be incorporated in he profile. --☆ケンジガール 03:35, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Look, it's your call if you don't want to change it, Kenji_Girl, but, the thing is, 30 second appearance or more than 30 seconds, he still very much appeared, Look, if her debut episode was truly dedicated completely to herself, Ash would NEVER, and i do mean, NEVER, have appeared AT ALL. The definition of completely is an adjactive meaning Absolutely, positively, 100% happened. Since 30 seconds was saved for ash, It really shouldn't follow under the term "Completely dedicated to herself". Now, don't get me wrong, as i have said before, she still had quite a bit more of a debut episode than his other companions, but even still, it is still a far cry from being "Completely dedicated" to herself. How about we say "Dawn is the first of Ash's friends to have her debut episode Primarily dedicated to herself rather than sharing half of it to Ash." and keeping the "Ash only appeared in the end"? that way, we would be far more accurate with the info, and yet still convey what we mean.

~~Weedle_McHairybug~~

That's Tauros droppings and you should know it. 30 seconds in a 22 minutes or so cartoon is nothing. it's a cameo at best. Cassius335 13:22, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Cassius335 is right. Only 30 seconds. In a 25 minutes cartoon? This is absollutely nothing. The episode was totally dedicated to Dawn, if you think a little more. -File:Ani038MS.gifうずまき ハルカ 17:52, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

sigh... have it your way, but I should just say that Ash's appearance was definitely not a cameo considering that what happened during the 30 seconds was a major plotpoint. a cameo has to deal with an appearance of a person, place, or thing that has no bearing to the plot other than as an easter egg. Since Ash's appearance set the next 2 episodes in motion, It definitely wasn't a cameo. Besides, as I have stated before, even if it was just a cameo, It still Proves that the her debut episode was only primarily dedicated to herself. As I have stated before, If it truly was completely dedicated to her, Ash would Never have appeared AT ALL, not even as the 30-second appearance in the ending. but, it is your decision, now if anyone thinks my views should be followed, fine. if you think that my views are nothing more than, as you call it, Tauros droppings, fine, even if i feel that these statements you said are inaccurate. I thought the whole "Primarily dedicated" part would be more accurate than the "completely dedicated" since, while it is still more than what the other characters got, it is still a far cry from a completely dedicated debut. Now, Jimmy/Yoshi, Marina/Dani, And Vincent/Jackson's debut in "Legend of thunder" Is what I would call a Completely dedicated debut to those three considering that Ash never appeared AT ALL. but, as I said, It's your call.

~~Weedle McHairybug~~

Your "major plot point" lasted until only a couple of eps and didn't affect Ep 1's plot in the slightest. Seriously, you're being too anal about this. Cassius335 21:52, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

except for maybe Dawn Meeting Pikachu, Ash, Brock, Paul (not to mention Paul meeting Ash), and Team rocket? Or maybe having Ash catch Starly (really, the only reason why Ash even caught the bird in the first place was to try and find Pikachu. Ash and even Brock explicitly stated that. Really, If TR didn't capture Pikachu in the first DP episode, then Ash wouldn't have caught Starly this early In the saga.)? besides, Ash caught all three Kanto starters in three episodes, and the last time I checked, the majority of the fanbase seemed to count it as an important plot point and affected the plot. If they counted THAT as an important plot point and affected the plot, we can most certainly count the 3-episode arc that began the DP saga as an important plot point as well. but, then again, Ignore my ideas, It isn't going to be the first time. I only thought that I should change it because it was somewhat inaccurate, and since wikis are mostly supposed to be accurate, i figured that it should be edited slightly. Now, i might try and edit it on my own accord, but I usually don't do that unless the talk page is unavailable. aw well, theres a first for everything...

~~Weedle Mchairybug~~

"except for maybe Dawn Meeting Pikachu, Ash, Brock, Paul (not to mention Paul meeting Ash), and Team rocket?"

That was Ep's 2 and 3, not 1. Cassius335 10:20, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

...Which happened Immediately after the events of the ending of episode 1. If Team Rocket never stole Pikachu, then Dawn wouldn't have Found and Battled Pikachu, Her Bike would never have been Fried, She would not have encountered Team rocket twice, She would NEVER have heard of Ash (remember, she only heard of ash because she was searching for its owner.) She would never have Met Ash, Her Piplup would not have been exhausted from fighting Team Rocket's Mechlekid, thus having it never Meet Brock, etc, etc. BasicallyIf it wasn't for the ending, many of the things that I have listed would never have Happened. But, Hey, it's your call. I just felt it was inaccurate because Completely debuted, to me, makes me think of Vincent/Jackson, Marina/Dani, and Jimmy/Yoshi in Legend of thunder (Meaning, Ash and co., Ash and Co never appeared In that Special at all.)

Oh, and speaking of which, Haruka Uzumaki, even if it seems relatively insignificant, it definitely isn't absolutely nothing. Team Rocket's appearance in the Debut episode of Ash is "Absolutely Nothing", Ash's Group's appearance in Legend of Thunder is "absolutely nothing", Team rocket's appearance in Ash and May! Heated Battles in Hoenn! is "Absolutely nothing", Brock's appearance in the majority of the Orange Islands is "Absolutely nothing", Ash's 30 second appearance in the debut episode of Dawn? That ISN'T Absolutely nothing. No offense, Haruka Uzumaki, just wanting to clear some things up.

Well, as I have said, It is your call if you don't want it edited.

~~Weedle_McHairybug~~

You're overthinking it. You're putting that 30 seconds in the context of the first 3 eps, but the rest of us only talking about the events of Ep 1. While it did lead in to Ep 2, if you take that 30 seconds out, the rest of Ep 1 would be utterly unaffected. Cassius335 18:04, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

You know, cassius335, Technically DP001 is actually from the episodes Following a maiden's voyage to When Pokemon Worlds Collide rather than Just "Following a Maiden's voyage", since the first 3 diamond and pearl episodes actually aired as part of a special episode in japan, as well as a TV Movie in the us. but, you do have a point, if you take away 2 and 3. but it should be at least worth noting that she was the first of ash's friends to have her debut episode focused primarily on her rather than half or a third of it to her and half or two-thirds to ash. That way it won't cause confusion to people.

~~weedle_mchairybug~~

It's fine as is. Cassius335 00:39, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

I guess you're done with your argument...File:Ani475MS.gif Agent #448 ^{☆ | ♥}File:Ani282MS.gifThis will put you off eating for life! 13:27, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Thankfully. Cassius335 17:16, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Dude, I didn't say that Ash didn't appear at all. I just said that he had a very little role in it. Is that not the truth? What did Ash do in this episode that was important in this episode besides letting Team Rocket steal Pikachu for the billionth time? --File:Ani048MS.gifケンジFile:Ani183MS.gifガールFile:Ani123MS.gif 20:30, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Guys, Sorry If I end up restarting the arguement, but I just want to clear some things up with Kenji-Girl.

even IF you didn't EXPLICITLY say that Ash didn't appear at all, the term "Completely dedicated" usually means "Absolutely all of the Milliseconds, Seconds, Minutes, the ENTIRE half-hour is given to this character", No exceptions (at least, that's what it means to me anyways), which seems to Imply that Ash never appeared in the episode AT ALL. However, Dawn didn't really have her first episode TRULY completely dedicated to herself since, you know, Ash had 30 seconds at the end. It's more 99% dedicated to her than ACTUALLY 100% (Please don't try and round, since you can't round whole numbers), which, while it IS far more than what the rest of the main cast got (Besides Ash), it isn't really 100% dedicated to Dawn. Do you see my point now?

In regards to what Ash did that was Important in this episode besides the whole "Pikachu is Stolen" factor, He did arrive in Sinnoh, right? that counts as something important.

~~Weedle_McHairybug~~

Kindly drop it already. You're clearly just nitpicking. - Cassius335 13:40, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Ribbon

File:Floaroma Ribbon.JPG

The ribbon in question

Didn't Dawn get a ribbon by beating Kenny? So shouldn't it be mentioned in the article? File:Ani448MS.gifJmathFile:Ani447MS.gifTalkFile:Ani448MS.gif 14:15, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

You mean, this ribbion???? --File:Spr 3e 059.gifFile:Spr 3e 132.gifTheryguy512 File:Trozeiani025.gif 20:45, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Maybe. If that's Dawn holding it, then it is that ribbon. File:Ani448MS.gifJmathFile:Ani447MS.gifTalkFile:Ani448MS.gif 21:52, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Oh, I know that it is Dawn holding it. --Theryguy512File:Trozeiani025.gif 23:08, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

DeeDee

Does anyone know why kenny always calls her DeeDee? Did the anime ever mention it yet? CrystalLucario 13:55, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

He's a childhood friend of Dawn's. Is there any other reason needed for a nickname?--Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 14:04, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

I think we can safely assume it's not a reference to her bra size. Maybe her surname also begins with a D? Cassius335 17:31, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

In the Japanese version he calls her "Pikari", relating to some incident with a Pikachu that we don't have the details of yet. I don't know if the dubbers had anything in mind when they came up with DeeDee. --FabuVinny ^T-C-S 17:39, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Just because she is called Pikari it doesn't necessarily have to be related to Pikachu. So wouldn't it be better to leave that out of the article for now? File:Ani448MS.gifJmathFile:Ani447MS.gifTalkFile:Ani448MS.gif 18:45, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Yes, the reason haven't been revealed yet, and if it is true, I think she would be embarrassed or scared when she first saw Ash's Pikachu!-Billy4b2004 10:59, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

And also Kenny and Yumomi would laughed when they first saw Ash's Pikachu if it is true!-Billy4b2004 11:36, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Novice

How is dawn a novice trainer just because she didnt get a bug pokemon as her first capture? -09MurphyM

No... It's because she's a new trainer. --File:Ani048MS.gifケンジFile:Ani183MS.gifガールFile:Ani123MS.gif 20:52, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Um, what does being a novice have to do with bug Pokémon?--Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 01:53, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Umm... ONLY main character aside from Ash to challenge a Gym?

Ok, someone said that in the Trivia section that Dawn is the only Main Character aside from Ash to challenge a Pokémon Gym. But, didn't Team Rocket ACTUALLY challenge Pewter Gym at one point? I mean, this may be debatable, since they were trying to cause a Diversion while Meowth tried to steal the pokéballs (a plan that would have worked if Max didn't stumble upon Meowth doing that.), but still, I'm not sure that Dawn is the First Main character to challenge Gyms besides Ash. I mean, If it said that she was the first of Ash's friends to ACTUALLY challenge a Gym besides Ash, then, yeah, I would agree with you.

Also, in the main article, it was also said that she is the first main character to lose the appeal round, but that honor Actually goes to Jessie. I mean, really, first of Ash's friends I can understand, but first of Main characters?

really, some of these things REALLY need to be changed.

~~Weedle_Mchairybug~~

You've got to be kidding me. As you said, they were just battling them as a diversion. Never was the term "gym battle" used. It had nothing to do with a gym battle.

Though you are right. Dawn isn't the only main character to challenge a gym leader besides Ash. Misty did challenge that unofficial gym leader in Johto once. I guess they're just saying that Dawn is the only character aside from Ash to challenge an official gym leader in order to earn a badge. --File:Ani048MS.gifケンジFile:Ani183MS.gifガールFile:Ani123MS.gif 23:31, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

And even then, May would have challenged Roxanne if she hadn't seen the Rustboro Contest and decided to be a Coordinator. --FabuVinny ^T-C-S 23:37, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

I hate to agree with Weedle on something, but Jessie IS a main character, so she would be the first main character to lose an appeal (which episode was that, though?) Cassius335 12:26, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

I actually mentioned it in the trivia section of the episode in which Dawn first lost the appeal round: It was AG013 where Jessie told Seviper to use Sacred Fire. --FabuVinny ^T-C-S 18:30, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Wait a sec.....Seviper using Sacred Fire???? Isn't that a anime move error???? --Theryguy512 20:35, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

No, Seviper didn't use Sacred Fire. She just said Seviper to use it but of course it failed. File:Ani448MS.gifJmathFile:Ani447MS.gifTalkFile:Ani448MS.gif 20:44, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Thus, she didn't get through the appeal round. Q.E.D. --FabuVinny ^T-C-S 22:58, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Cassius, why did you HAVE to remove my edit? I mean, The reason why I even MADE that edit is because, technically, she ISN'T the only Main Character aside from Ash to challenge A gym battle. I mean, Misty ALSO challenged a Gym (REGARDLESS of whether it was an official gym or not, she still challenged one). I mean, even Kenji-girl pointed that out in the first post apart from mine! I edited that part of trivia because it would have made MORE sense if it was mentioned to be that she was the only main character ASIDE from Ash to challenge an OFFICIAL gym.

~~Weedle_McHairybug~~

Weedle, I'm fed up of your over-wordy nitpicking. Which episode are you even talking about? - Cassius335 21:00, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

The episode is Just Add Water, Misty was fighting against the unofficial Water Gym leader of Johto: Dorian, and apparantly beat him with her Psyduck (something that, BTW, he thought was impressive) AFTER he insulted her by calling Lily more beautiful than her. And another thing, we (meaning, bulbapedia's article) know that Ash lost against him, whileas we didn't even mention the outcome of Brock's fight against him.

~~Weedle_McHairybug~~

Character of the day?

Can someone explain to me why this page is showing up in the category about Characters of the day? --PAK Man ^Talk 06:04, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

Likely a glitch, like how {{-}} appears in several... TTEchidnaFire echy 00:57, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Trivia

The first STARTER that Ash owned was Bulbasaur (GRASS TYPE), Pikachu was a one off.The first STARTER that May owned was Torchic (Fire TYPE).The first STARTER that Dawn owned was Piplup (WATER TYPE). So there first STARTER pokemon owned are grass fire and water,they all ended up with different types, or is that just a coincidence.

It's just I have always thought why did the writers chose May to have Torchic and Dawn Piplup. Sailor Earth 17:29, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Another Pokémon Team/Starter Related Trivia bit? God! No! We're ALREADY full of them. Those are just random observations, they aren't worth noting at all! --Maxim 17:37, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Ok I see your point in fact should we get rid of some of the pointless Trivia in the article, it is mostly junk and really makes the article overly long. Sailor Earth

For Trivia, that's actually quite a good one. And that was a double negative, Maxim. - Cassius335 18:10, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

He said "noting" not "nothing." Still, I agree that it's an interesting piece of trivia. Ozzie 18:18, 13 May 2008 (UTC)