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:::::I'm not confident about the actual Pokémon but the moveset is definately focussed on a pragmatic approach to fighting: Pulling any trick to win as opposed to the honour of fighting types (who the attacks are weak against.) --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>|[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]|</sup> 16:00, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
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Mischevious is dark's theme, not outright "evil"
   
 
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Revision as of 04:56, 10 December 2010

The Implication of Dark

I added a little quip in the Characteristics section about other features of the Dark-type, specifically how many of the moves are associated with deception and stealing, earning it the title "Dark." I'm pretty sure Dark is not a reference to Night, even though Eevee involves into Umbreon at night, but I think that was just a way to showcase how Day and Night could be used in Gold/Silver. If anyone disagrees with this, I'm interested in your opinion--MJuice 02:12, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

The Japanese name for the type is Evil, so your observations aren't without support. However, over analyzing too much only adds fuel to the whole 'Pokemon is Satanic' argument.--Dual 04:44, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
Late reply, but it seems rather likely to me that Dark actually refers to both. Darkness and nighttime are often used (both in Western and Eastern cultures, including Japan) as a symbolic reference to evil, especially the former. Several Dark Pokemon such as Murkrow also have a highly prominent connection to the night, be it evolutionary methods or location in the wild. Initially in Gold/Silver, it should be noted that every wild Dark Pokemon could only be found at night. Because of this, it is not necessarily true that the "Dark = Night" conception is a falsehood, so I don't think the night/darkness implications of the Dark type should be regarded as an outright misinterpretation so much as simply being opinionated. I've decided to remove the sentence containing this statement for that reason. Marlowe 18:41, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

good for you, now maybe you can stop spamming up the recent changes page huh? Happizelpom 15:11, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Just for the record, that doesn't stop others from seeing it in the recent changes. The Dark Fiddler - Smarter than the average bear! 19:32, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
Moonlight Umbreon:But please,do not think ALL dark pokemon are evil.Umbreon evolves via happiness,Darkrai creates nightmares but wants to stop the battle between Dialga and Palkia,Houndoom saved a Togepi in the anime,and many dark type pokemon look like evil,but aren't. - unsigned comment from Moonlight umbreon (talkcontribs)
No Pokémon are actually malevolent.
I'm not confident about the actual Pokémon but the moveset is definately focussed on a pragmatic approach to fighting: Pulling any trick to win as opposed to the honour of fighting types (who the attacks are weak against.) --FabuVinny |Talk Page| 16:00, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

Mischevious is dark's theme, not outright "evil"

Special?

Are Dark-type moves really counted as Special-type moves? Even though most Dark-type moves are physical-based? --*Ɣℯⲛօӎօṫհ* 17:21, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

That's how it is in the Generation III games. TESHIGIGAS 20:19, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
And Generation II. -Lord Hyren 02:05, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
At Earl's Pokémon Academy in Pokémon Stadium 2, one of his lectures for beginning Trainers lists the 17 types and clarifies whether moves of that type are based on Attack or Special Attack. That lecture lists Dark as Special. Superbreeder 03:31, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
Why exactly is Dark special? There is only 1 special move. What determines a type as special or physical? Sivart345 (user · talk · contrib) 20:59, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
Because that was decided by the moves type bfore Gen IV and when they added two types two generations earlier, Steel was more clearly physical so they went the other way with Dark to keep things even. When the physical/special split led them to take a closer look at the moves, it was fixed. --FabuVinny |Talk Page| 16:00, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

Trivia

In the trivia section for Electric (type), it's mentioned that Because Electric's only weakness is to Ground, a pure Electric-type Pokémon with Levitate would have no weaknesses unless Gravity is used or the foe has Mold Breaker. Worth mentioning for Dark/Poison with Levitate? MaskedFalcon 11:55, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

No, because Dark's weakness is Template:Type2 and Poison's weakness is Template:Type2.--Diby 11:59, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
What I meant was, suppose we had a combination Dark/Poison type with Levitate. Since Dark's Fighting weakness is canceled by Poison's resistance and Poison's Psychic weakness is nullified by Dark's immunity, the Pokémon would have no weaknesses. MaskedFalcon 12:02, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Language Translation

dont remove or undo anything for enougth confusion pls .....Bakunawa 08:13, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Zorua and Zoroark

We should add them, seeing as we know that they are pure Dark-type. I already added them to the number of known Dark-types, but not to the list of them. TorchicBlaziken (talkedits) 15:03, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

Bite

This page lists Bite as having a 10% chance to flinch, but according to Bite's page it has had a 30% chance to since Gen II, shouldn't this page be changed accordingly? --Oryx 23:01, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Nevermind, it looks like it is actually Bite's page that is not correct. --Oryx 02:29, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Until Generation IV...

All pure dark types were either felines or canines. Can we add this to trivia?--Burgundy 18:43, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

pure coincidence Ataro 18:45, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
Umbreon and Absol are indeterminate species anyways. It would have been better to say quadrupeds. But yeah. With only four pure Darks at the time, it ain't that notable. --ケンジガール 23:49, 17 October 2010 (UTC)