# Talk:Damage

Does the Damage formula below account for critical hits? I don't see any area in it which does, would it be worth noting it?

Nothinhappened 22:03, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

- It's noted in the damage modification section. A CH does 2x damage, after the formula has been applied. —
**darklordtrom**01:40, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

## held Item?

It isn't that clear the part that says that some held Items and Berries increase the damage inflicted in other Pokémon! I did understand the formula at the bottom of the page, but there isn't any clear explanation about it. Would someone, please? Exactly where/when would the "extra 20%" bonus of NeverMeltIce apply? YukitoOoO 22:09, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

## Move the formula to Modification?

It seems like a good thing to do, because a lot of the stuff here is repeated anyway, and most of what affects the formulas is in the Modification section anyway. Ztobor 03:55, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

## Mild contridiction in a very specific criteria

--Noltron200 17:28, 6 August 2010 (UTC)Noltron200

In this page, it says this
*"Critical is 2 for a critical hit, 1 otherwise. For Pokémon with Sniper, it is 3 for a critical hit. "*
in the series of bullet notes.

In the description of Sniper, in the Sniper(ability) page, it says this "Sniper multiplies the base power of an attack 1.5× during a critical hit. "

Becuase the damage equation goes " **...×base + 2)×Modifier** ", the first source would multiply the +2 by two, meanwhile the second source would not, becuase it multiplies the move's base attack, and than is added by two.

Merely 2 points difference, but its something to consider.