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::There's nothing supporting that. We don't know if he's evil or not. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 18:52, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
::There's nothing supporting that. We don't know if he's evil or not. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 18:52, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
:::I should have elaborated more on that sorry. I meant it as a name origin, it's more similar than it is to achromatic, which is an English word, and Akuroma is his Japanese name (afaik). {{unsigned|Kookamooka}}
:::I should have elaborated more on that sorry. I meant it as a name origin, it's more similar than it is to achromatic, which is an English word, and Akuroma is his Japanese name (afaik). {{unsigned|Kookamooka}}
:Kuma - bear, Roma - Gypsy, Ama - Nun. Gypsy nun bear professor. [[User:Kikugi|Kikugi]] 19:13, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
:Kuma - Bear, Roma - Gypsy, Ama - Nun. Gypsy nun bear professor. [[User:Kikugi|Kikugi]] 19:13, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
 
== Final battle Challenge Mode moves ==
 
They seem to be the same as Normal Mode so far. Can it safely be assumed that the movesets don't change in his case? -- [[User:GoldenCelebi|<span style="color:#DAA520;">Golden</span>]][[User talk:GoldenCelebi|<span style="color:#78C850;">Celebi</span>]] 12:51, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
:I don't really think so. Already we have examples of moves changing between normal and challenge modes, such as Iris (Hydreigon has Flamethrower in normal mode, Fire Blast in challenge). It would be better to wait until someone locates cold, hard data on the moves in Colress' team in Challenge mode. <span class="sc">'''[[User:Haxorus|<span style="color:#968428;">Hax</span>]][[User talk:Haxorus|<span style="color:#4C4646;">or</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Haxorus|<span style="color:#800517;">us</span>]]</span>''' 14:10, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
 
== Trivia or not ==
 
"In the battle with Colress at the Pokemon World Tournament, Colress' Magneton is underleveled. Magnemite does not evolve into Magneton until level 30."
 
Is the above notable enough to be included as trivia as it is in the Trivia section for the Lance, Falkner, and Poké Maniac articles.  There were a few reverted edits due to this.  [[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 07:31, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
:No, the trivias regarding underleveled Pokémon are not really notable. Therefore, I have removed it from Lance and Poke Maniac's articles. However, I am not sure about Falkner's article, it may needs to be reworded but I may be wrong. <span style="color:#009900">♫♪</span> [[User:Adyniz|<span style="color:#A80000;">'''エイデ'''</span>]][[User talk:Adyniz|<span style="color:#003399;">'''ィニズ'''</span>]] <span style="color:#009900">♪♫</span> 07:43, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
 
Levels are scaled down for tournaments, especially the PWT. If you bring a Serperior into the Driftveil Tournament, it will be scaled down to level 25, even though Servine doesn't evolve until level 36. Underleveled Pokémon should only be noted outside of set-level battles. [[User:Schiffy|Schiffy]] ([[User talk:Schiffy|talk]]) 02:29, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
 
== Rival? ==
Seeing how N fails to qualify as a rival under the conditions I stipulated in my recent N edit summary, Colress seems to qualify as a rival, barring the Trainer class impediment. Should he be treated as such, because of his status as a recurring, re-battle-able, non-League-sanctioned, uniquely designed opponent in a game where he is prominently featured? This needs to be settled here and now...--[[User:Muk-a-matic|Muk-a-matic-Maketh the Muk go round...]] ([[User talk:Muk-a-matic|talk]]) 20:03, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
:No. Colress doesn't fit the traditional sense of a rival - you're not competing against him for anything. [[User:Plasma|Plasma]] ([[User talk:Plasma|talk]]) 20:26, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
 
== Name ==
 
I've noticed something interesting about his name... Achroma (in Japanese) may come from "achromatic", and Colress may come from "colorless". Considering that the games are called Black 2 and White 2, this makes a lot of sense to me. I don't know if somebody already pointed this out, but I think it'd be interesting to put this in the Trivia section --<font face="Britannic Bold">[[User:PenblooeR|<span style="color:#6CB3E3;">Pen</span>]][[User talk:PenblooeR|<span style="color:#4B81A4">BlooeR</span>]]</font> 16:33, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
:It's already in the [[Colress#Names|Names]] section. --[[User:神奇超龍|<font color="#2B547E">'''超龍'''</font>]]<sub><small>「'''[[User talk:神奇超龍|Chao]]'''」</small></sub> 16:36, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
::Oh, fail xP --<font face="Britannic Bold">[[User:PenblooeR|<span style="color:#6CB3E3;">Pen</span>]][[User talk:PenblooeR|<span style="color:#4B81A4">BlooeR</span>]]</font> 16:39, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
 
== Colress Challenge mode levels 75 and 77 instead of 76 and 78. ==
 
In my Black version(English) Challenge mode, Colress has levels 75 and 77, instead of 76 and 78, as shown on the page. In the japanese videos I watched, he had levels 76 and 78. I am wondering if the english version lowered his levels in challenge mode(the normal mode is the same), if this is some sort of a glitch, or if the boss scales to my level. {{unsigned|Anonackount}}
:I just checked mine, and they were 76 and 78 as normal. Are you sure you didn't misread the numbers? - [[User:Blazios|<span style="color:navy">Blazios</span>]] [[User Talk:Blazios|<span style="color:limegreen"><sub>talk</sub></span>]] 12:14, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
 
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/841/1102122236.jpg/
This is the battle on the deck, by the way. You are using the english version, right? {{unsigned|Anonackount}}
:In the initial post-League battle, he has Pokemon with levels ranging from 76 to 78, but they are lowered by 1 on the deck battles. At least that was my experience (US version). [[User:Dancing Dragonite|Dancing Dragonite]] ([[User talk:Dancing Dragonite|talk]]) 14:50, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
 
That seems kind of weird. Is it a programming error? [[User:Anonackount|Anonackount]] ([[User talk:Anonackount|talk]]) 21:46, 17 November 2012 (UTC)
 
== Trivia ==
The page still seems to be locked from editing from some users. I take issue with a point of trivia added by a user which states (pasting here): "Colress seems particularly fond of the Steel and Electric types, as he uses three electric types and three steel types, and two Pokémon that are an Electric/Steel type combination."
 
This doesn't seem notable, is pointed out by the colors of his infoboxes relating to Steel and Electric types, and is something a reader can deduce already by looking at his team rosters. Could someone with credentials to edit this page remove this trivia? [[User:Chicobo329|Chicobo329]] ([[User talk:Chicobo329|talk]]) 22:16, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
:This was removed by [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]]. You're right; it's not noteworthy. [[User:Dancing Dragonite|Dancing Dragonite]] ([[User talk:Dancing Dragonite|talk]]) 19:43, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
 
== Anime voice actors ==
How did Jimmy Zoppi and Kanako Yasaka get on there? I'm looking for them in the code to remove them but I can't find anything recorded of it actually being put there. --[[User:The Great Butler|The Great Butler]] ([[User talk:The Great Butler|talk]]) 09:59, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
 
agreed that was speculation --[[User:Dragon146|Dragon146]] ([[User talk:Dragon146|talk]]) 15:45, 10 February 2013 (UTC)
 
== description to anime ==
 
could we add this to the anime section:
"unlike in the games, he takes on a more antagonistic role." --[[User:Dragon146|Dragon146]] ([[User talk:Dragon146|talk]]) 15:47, 10 February 2013 (UTC)
 
== Split page for anime section? ==
The anime section for Colress is becoming awfully big, and it's only going to get bigger given that he's going to appear next week and probably in the two episodes after that as well. Would it be worthwhile to split that part of the article off into a "Colress (anime)" page? --[[User:The Great Butler|The Great Butler]] ([[User talk:The Great Butler|talk]]) 08:17, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

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Possible Name Origin

Aku - Evil, Kuro - Black, Akuma - Demon. An evil professor? Kookamooka 20:42, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

Bumping this. Kookamooka 18:47, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
There's nothing supporting that. We don't know if he's evil or not. Ataro 18:52, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
I should have elaborated more on that sorry. I meant it as a name origin, it's more similar than it is to achromatic, which is an English word, and Akuroma is his Japanese name (afaik). - unsigned comment from Kookamooka (talkcontribs)
Kuma - Bear, Roma - Gypsy, Ama - Nun. Gypsy nun bear professor. Kikugi 19:13, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

Final battle Challenge Mode moves

They seem to be the same as Normal Mode so far. Can it safely be assumed that the movesets don't change in his case? -- GoldenCelebi 12:51, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

I don't really think so. Already we have examples of moves changing between normal and challenge modes, such as Iris (Hydreigon has Flamethrower in normal mode, Fire Blast in challenge). It would be better to wait until someone locates cold, hard data on the moves in Colress' team in Challenge mode. Haxorus 14:10, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

Trivia or not

"In the battle with Colress at the Pokemon World Tournament, Colress' Magneton is underleveled. Magnemite does not evolve into Magneton until level 30."

Is the above notable enough to be included as trivia as it is in the Trivia section for the Lance, Falkner, and Poké Maniac articles. There were a few reverted edits due to this. Super goku (talk) 07:31, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

No, the trivias regarding underleveled Pokémon are not really notable. Therefore, I have removed it from Lance and Poke Maniac's articles. However, I am not sure about Falkner's article, it may needs to be reworded but I may be wrong. ♫♪ エイディニズ ♪♫ 07:43, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

Levels are scaled down for tournaments, especially the PWT. If you bring a Serperior into the Driftveil Tournament, it will be scaled down to level 25, even though Servine doesn't evolve until level 36. Underleveled Pokémon should only be noted outside of set-level battles. Schiffy (talk) 02:29, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

Rival?

Seeing how N fails to qualify as a rival under the conditions I stipulated in my recent N edit summary, Colress seems to qualify as a rival, barring the Trainer class impediment. Should he be treated as such, because of his status as a recurring, re-battle-able, non-League-sanctioned, uniquely designed opponent in a game where he is prominently featured? This needs to be settled here and now...--Muk-a-matic-Maketh the Muk go round... (talk) 20:03, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

No. Colress doesn't fit the traditional sense of a rival - you're not competing against him for anything. Plasma (talk) 20:26, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

Name

I've noticed something interesting about his name... Achroma (in Japanese) may come from "achromatic", and Colress may come from "colorless". Considering that the games are called Black 2 and White 2, this makes a lot of sense to me. I don't know if somebody already pointed this out, but I think it'd be interesting to put this in the Trivia section --PenBlooeR 16:33, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

It's already in the Names section. --超龍Chao 16:36, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
Oh, fail xP --PenBlooeR 16:39, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

Colress Challenge mode levels 75 and 77 instead of 76 and 78.

In my Black version(English) Challenge mode, Colress has levels 75 and 77, instead of 76 and 78, as shown on the page. In the japanese videos I watched, he had levels 76 and 78. I am wondering if the english version lowered his levels in challenge mode(the normal mode is the same), if this is some sort of a glitch, or if the boss scales to my level. - unsigned comment from Anonackount (talkcontribs)

I just checked mine, and they were 76 and 78 as normal. Are you sure you didn't misread the numbers? - Blazios talk 12:14, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/841/1102122236.jpg/ This is the battle on the deck, by the way. You are using the english version, right? - unsigned comment from Anonackount (talkcontribs)

In the initial post-League battle, he has Pokemon with levels ranging from 76 to 78, but they are lowered by 1 on the deck battles. At least that was my experience (US version). Dancing Dragonite (talk) 14:50, 11 November 2012 (UTC)

That seems kind of weird. Is it a programming error? Anonackount (talk) 21:46, 17 November 2012 (UTC)

Trivia

The page still seems to be locked from editing from some users. I take issue with a point of trivia added by a user which states (pasting here): "Colress seems particularly fond of the Steel and Electric types, as he uses three electric types and three steel types, and two Pokémon that are an Electric/Steel type combination."

This doesn't seem notable, is pointed out by the colors of his infoboxes relating to Steel and Electric types, and is something a reader can deduce already by looking at his team rosters. Could someone with credentials to edit this page remove this trivia? Chicobo329 (talk) 22:16, 16 December 2012 (UTC)

This was removed by Pumpkinking0192. You're right; it's not noteworthy. Dancing Dragonite (talk) 19:43, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

Anime voice actors

How did Jimmy Zoppi and Kanako Yasaka get on there? I'm looking for them in the code to remove them but I can't find anything recorded of it actually being put there. --The Great Butler (talk) 09:59, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

agreed that was speculation --Dragon146 (talk) 15:45, 10 February 2013 (UTC)

description to anime

could we add this to the anime section: "unlike in the games, he takes on a more antagonistic role." --Dragon146 (talk) 15:47, 10 February 2013 (UTC)

Split page for anime section?

The anime section for Colress is becoming awfully big, and it's only going to get bigger given that he's going to appear next week and probably in the two episodes after that as well. Would it be worthwhile to split that part of the article off into a "Colress (anime)" page? --The Great Butler (talk) 08:17, 29 March 2013 (UTC)