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==Sprites==
hey, what did u think of those GBA pics? [[User:Zelos|Zelos]]
hey, what did u think of those GBA pics? [[User:Zelos|Zelos]]
:It's a good idea, but I need to know a few more things - what version are they from? - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]]<sub>[[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]]</sub> 07:12, 11 September 2005 (CDT)
::its from emerald, how so? i have all those pics if u want it.Btw we could add it in the list aswell. [[User:Zelos|Zelos]]
:::Hmm, if it's from Emerald, then shouldn't they be animated? - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]]<sub>[[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]]</sub>
::::maybe, but where i got this pics they aint. But if they dont does it really matter? [[User:Zelos|Zelos]]
:::::Did you happen to get them from Serebii.net? His Emerald sprites aren't animated. We can't take sprites from someone else's site without permission. --[[User:Argy|Argy]] 11:58, 11 September 2005 (CDT)
:::::: have you tried to save a pic from that site? yo cant even copy text so how would i get the pictures from it? atleast i couldnt save them from that site. a friend gave me those, where he got them i dont know {{unsigned|Zelos}}
:::::::The Emerald sprites are used as avatars in the forums there, and those can be saved easily. I am not accusing you of stealing (frankly, a sprite is a sprite no matter its origin). I am just trying to avoid inter-site conflicts (even though it is doubtful other sites would be able to tell the origin of our sprites). --[[User:Argy|Argy]] 15:46, 11 September 2005 (CDT)
:::::::: good good {{unsigned|Zelos}}
Sprites aside, I seem to have found somthng wrong in the game. The Beldums I've seen are at level 53, long after they should have evolved. {{unsigned|Ditto123}}
:Pokémon don't have to evolve as soon as they are able to. Where did you see them? If it was an in-game trainer, then they often have Pokémon at levels where they could be a higher evolutionary form. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]]</sup> 17:01, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
::Wild Beldums are naturally level 52 or 53, can't remember which. [[User:Jonah|Jonah]] 17:03, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
:::I found it on route 228 during a mass outbreak. But if they are past level 45, when they should have evolved into metagross, when do they evolve? {{unsigned|Ditto123}}
::::Pokémon can always delay evolution until any level after their evolution level.  So, technicaly, Beldum can - but do not necessarily have to - evolve into Metang at any level from 20 to 100. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] <sup>~[[User talk:Pie|♪]][[Special:Contributions/Pie|♫]]</sup> 17:44, 30 July 2007 (UTC)


:It's a good idea, but I need to know a few more things - what version are they from? - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]]<sub>[[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]]</sub> 07:12, 11 September 2005 (CDT)
==Sandstorm damage question==
In the trivia section for Beldum it says:
:"However, in Generation IV, Beldum can be found as a swarm on Route 228, making Beldum incredibly difficult to capture due to both its self-damaging move and the ever-present sandstorm."
However Steel types are not normally effected by Sandstorm, which does not hit Steel, Ground or Rock type pokemon. In my version of Pearl I have observed Beldum quite happily getting about in a Sandstorm without taking any damage from it.


::its from emerald, how so? i have all those pics if u want it.Btw we could add it in the list aswell. [[User:Zelos|Zelos]]
Does the Sandstorm have some other effect on catch rates that I don't know about?  If not, can someone confirm or deny the damage aspect so we can change the trivia? [[User:Castorquinn|Castorquinn]] 14:53, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
:Sandstorm raises SpDef for all Steel, Rock, and Ground-types. So it's rather difficult to capture, since stat raises make Pokémon hard to catch ((not sure about that)) [[User:Tina|{{color|E75480|Tina}}]]<sup>[[Special:Contributions/Tina|{{color|E75480|☆}}]][[User talk:Tina|{{color|E75480|♫}}]]</sup> 17:51, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
::that's when sandstorm is used as a move, if sandstorm is just the normal weather, it will not affect stats. <FONT COLOR="#0080FF">[[:User_Talk:Origamiguy/Mudkipz|Donate a mudkip]]</FONT> to [[:User:Origamiguy|<FONT COLOR="#FF8000">折り紙</FONT><FONT COLOR="#808080"><sub><big>ガイ</big></sub></FONT>]] today! 18:30, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
:::Okay, so am I okay to remove the reference to the sandstorm weather effect from that line of trivia?  All the other information is accurate. [[User:Castorquinn|Castorquinn]] 23:16, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
::::Is There any proof that the sandstorm boost doesn't occur on natural sandstorms? I've never heard of it before. [[User:Shiny Lanturn|Shiny Lanturn]] 13:27, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::I think all are the same, may it be by move or area. <span style="color:#0000FF;">tc26</span> 13:29, 17 June 2008 (UTC)


:::Hmm, if it's from Emerald, then shouldn't they be animated? - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]]<sub>[[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]]</sub>
==Umm...==
Beldum is the only Pokémon in a regional Dex that must be gotten post-Elite Four, right? Excluding trading, because of Beldum, you can't complete the Hoenn Dex pre-Elite Four, right? [[User:PH1RESTRIKE|PH1RESTRIKE]] 00:05, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
:What about Dialga in Pearl/Palkia in Diamond?&nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:Laoris|Laoris]]&nbsp;<sub>([[User_Talk:Laoris|Blah]])</sub> 00:11, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
::No, you can see it in the book right after Stark Mountain quest. Sinnoh can be fully dexed before the E4; this has been discussed previously and I think Zhen did it. &mdash; <small>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<font color="#0000C8">THE TROM</font></small>]] &mdash; 08:44, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
:::Oh ok.  You mean Mt. Coronet quest, tho, right?&nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:Laoris|Laoris]]&nbsp;<sub>([[User_Talk:Laoris|Blah]])</sub> 08:48, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
::::<nowiki>*hits self with shovel*</nowiki> Yeeeah... &mdash; <small>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<font color="#0000C8">THE TROM</font></small>]] &mdash; 08:51, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::OK, let me rephrase. How about the only non-legendary? <span style="border: 1px solid">[[User:PH1RESTRIKE|<span style="background-color:Blue; color:#78C850">  Fi-ray </span>]][[User talk:PH1RESTRIKE|<span style="background-color:#FFFFFF; color:Green"> ►strike! </span>]]</span> 18:13, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
::::::There are some Gen II Pokemon that can only be caught in the Kanto section of those games; i.e. Houndour at Route 7. So, I think not. &mdash; <small>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<font color="#0000C8">THE TROM</font></small>]] &mdash; 23:47, 20 January 2009 (UTC)


::::maybe, but where i got this pics they aint. But if they dont does it really matter? [[User:Zelos|Zelos]]
==What?==
I almost caught a Beldum that actually knew more than 1 move!It knew Struggle and Take Down. But why?--[[User:Sorou|sorou]] 18:02, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
:Pokémon that know {{m|Struggle}} have exhausted their normal movelist. Please investigate these matters yourself before jumping right onto talk pages. &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 22:06, 31 December 2009 (UTC)


:::::Did you happen to get them from Serebii.net? His Emerald sprites aren't animated. We can't take sprites from someone else's site without permission. --[[User:Argy|Argy]] 11:58, 11 September 2005 (CDT)
==HG/SS Safari==
Looks like you can catch wild beldums on HG/SS Safari. I didn't nor I can check it, this is word from a friend. And [[http://es.pokemon.wikia.com/wiki/Beldum#Localizaci.C3.B3n/ spanish pokemon wiki]] also says that. Anyone checked that? [[User:Zak Undersn|Zak Undersn]] 23:57, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
:The [http://www.pokewiki.de/Tanhel#Fundorte german Pokéwiki] also states that, though I do not know who had this information first. [[User:Qwesx|Qwesx]] 17:00, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
:It's pretty much confirmed. The wiki page for the Safari Zone lists it, and so does the Pokémon Company walkthrough. I'd add it, but I'm not sure what the protocol is for that. [[User:Cornbread|Cornbread]] 00:51, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
::Protocol is "go do it". Don't be scared to edit. &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 03:06, 27 April 2010 (UTC)


:::::: have you tried to save a pic from that site? yo cant even copy text so how would i get the pictures from it? atleast i couldnt save them from that site. a friend gave me those, where he got them i dont know
==Korean==
Is its Korean name really Metang? [[User:Turtwig A|<font color="#CD7F32">Turtwig's</font>]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|<font color="#FF7F00">A-B-Cs</font>]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|<font color="#green">talk</font>]] |  [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|<font color="#yellow">contribs</font>]]) 14:05, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
:It is. Why wouldn't it? --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 14:39, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
::I was just wondering, because Metang is its evolution's name. [[User:Turtwig A|<font color="#CD7F32">Turtwig's</font>]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|<font color="#FF7F00">A-B-Cs</font>]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|<font color="#green">talk</font>]] |  [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|<font color="#yellow">contribs</font>]]) 14:48, 26 July 2010 (UTC)


:::::::The Emerald sprites are used as avatars in the forums there, and those can be saved easily. I am not accusing you of stealing (frankly, a sprite is a sprite no matter its origin). I am just trying to avoid inter-site conflicts (even though it is doubtful other sites would be able to tell the origin of our sprites). --[[User:Argy|Argy]] 15:46, 11 September 2005 (CDT)
==Sprites==
The black and white beldum sprites are not shoing up as images, just as links, and the links dont show the images.--[[User:Kataangforever1|Kataangforever1]] 01:18, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
:That's because we don't have the images yet :D &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 10:09, 26 October 2010 (UTC)


:::::::: good good
==Shiny?==
Is there any way to get the Beldum from Steven to be Shiny, or will it always be normal? [[User:Gliscorguy54|Gliscorguy54]] 17:40, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
Just Save in front of the ball and recontinue untill you get it[[User:Meearaimeng|Meearaimeng]] 08:30, 29 January 2011 (UTC)


Sprites aside, I seem to have found somthng wrong in the game. The Beldums I've seen are at level 53, long after they should have evolved.
==Catch Rate Trivia==
:Pokémon don't have to evolve as soon as they are able to. Where did you see them? If it was an in-game trainer, then they often have Pokémon at levels where they could be a higher evolutionary form. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]]</sup> 17:01, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
The last part of the catch rate of 3 trivia brings up the everlasting sandstorm as if it made catching Beldum difficult along with Take Down. It correctly mentions that Steel, Rock, and Ground types are unaffected, but what does Beldum have to worry about when it happens to be part Steel type? The sandstorm isn't doing anything to it... So why's that part there? [[User:Shiramu Kuromu|Shiramu Kuromu]] 23:20, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
::Wild Beldums are naturally level 52 or 53, can't remember which. [[User:Jonah|Jonah]] 17:03, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
:The sandstorm can damage whatever Pokémon you send out to capture the Beldum. [[User:Minimiscience|Minimiscience]] 23:31, 28 December 2010 (UTC)


I found it on route 228 during a mass outbreak.
== Heavy Ball in SM ==


But if they are past level 45, when they should have evolved into metagross, when do they evolve?
Is this to be considered in Trivia section? It is not an official source or any kind of but this guy tweets all these nerd stuffs on his twitter. [[https://twitter.com/SciresM/status/841298847959781377]] He also explores the list. [[https://twitter.com/SciresM/status/841308680343695360]] ([[User:Rockapheller|Rockapheller]] ([[User talk:Rockapheller|talk]]) 16:29, 13 March 2017 (UTC))
:Pokémon can always delay evolution until any level after their evolution level. So, technicaly, Beldum can - but do not necessarily have to - evolve into Metang at any level from 20 to 100. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] <sup>~[[User talk:Pie|]][[Special:Contributions/Pie|♫]]</sup> 17:44, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
:Since there's such a long list, it definitely doesn't belong in the Trivia section of any of those species, not even Beldum. It's possible it might be worth mentioning on, say, {{Ball|Heavy}} or [[Catch rate]] or something like that, but I don't have any strong opinion in regard to that. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 16:36, 13 March 2017 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 16:36, 13 March 2017

Sprites

hey, what did u think of those GBA pics? Zelos

It's a good idea, but I need to know a few more things - what version are they from? - 振霖T 07:12, 11 September 2005 (CDT)
its from emerald, how so? i have all those pics if u want it.Btw we could add it in the list aswell. Zelos
Hmm, if it's from Emerald, then shouldn't they be animated? - 振霖T
maybe, but where i got this pics they aint. But if they dont does it really matter? Zelos
Did you happen to get them from Serebii.net? His Emerald sprites aren't animated. We can't take sprites from someone else's site without permission. --Argy 11:58, 11 September 2005 (CDT)
have you tried to save a pic from that site? yo cant even copy text so how would i get the pictures from it? atleast i couldnt save them from that site. a friend gave me those, where he got them i dont know - unsigned comment from Zelos (talkcontribs)
The Emerald sprites are used as avatars in the forums there, and those can be saved easily. I am not accusing you of stealing (frankly, a sprite is a sprite no matter its origin). I am just trying to avoid inter-site conflicts (even though it is doubtful other sites would be able to tell the origin of our sprites). --Argy 15:46, 11 September 2005 (CDT)
good good - unsigned comment from Zelos (talkcontribs)

Sprites aside, I seem to have found somthng wrong in the game. The Beldums I've seen are at level 53, long after they should have evolved. - unsigned comment from Ditto123 (talkcontribs)

Pokémon don't have to evolve as soon as they are able to. Where did you see them? If it was an in-game trainer, then they often have Pokémon at levels where they could be a higher evolutionary form. --FabuVinny T-C-S 17:01, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
Wild Beldums are naturally level 52 or 53, can't remember which. Jonah 17:03, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
I found it on route 228 during a mass outbreak. But if they are past level 45, when they should have evolved into metagross, when do they evolve? - unsigned comment from Ditto123 (talkcontribs)
Pokémon can always delay evolution until any level after their evolution level. So, technicaly, Beldum can - but do not necessarily have to - evolve into Metang at any level from 20 to 100. --Pie ~ 17:44, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Sandstorm damage question

In the trivia section for Beldum it says:

"However, in Generation IV, Beldum can be found as a swarm on Route 228, making Beldum incredibly difficult to capture due to both its self-damaging move and the ever-present sandstorm."

However Steel types are not normally effected by Sandstorm, which does not hit Steel, Ground or Rock type pokemon. In my version of Pearl I have observed Beldum quite happily getting about in a Sandstorm without taking any damage from it.

Does the Sandstorm have some other effect on catch rates that I don't know about? If not, can someone confirm or deny the damage aspect so we can change the trivia? Castorquinn 14:53, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Sandstorm raises SpDef for all Steel, Rock, and Ground-types. So it's rather difficult to capture, since stat raises make Pokémon hard to catch ((not sure about that)) Tina 17:51, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
that's when sandstorm is used as a move, if sandstorm is just the normal weather, it will not affect stats. Donate a mudkip to 折り紙ガイ today! 18:30, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
Okay, so am I okay to remove the reference to the sandstorm weather effect from that line of trivia? All the other information is accurate. Castorquinn 23:16, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
Is There any proof that the sandstorm boost doesn't occur on natural sandstorms? I've never heard of it before. Shiny Lanturn 13:27, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
I think all are the same, may it be by move or area. tc26 13:29, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Umm...

Beldum is the only Pokémon in a regional Dex that must be gotten post-Elite Four, right? Excluding trading, because of Beldum, you can't complete the Hoenn Dex pre-Elite Four, right? PH1RESTRIKE 00:05, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

What about Dialga in Pearl/Palkia in Diamond? — Laoris (Blah) 00:11, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
No, you can see it in the book right after Stark Mountain quest. Sinnoh can be fully dexed before the E4; this has been discussed previously and I think Zhen did it. — THE TROM — 08:44, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
Oh ok. You mean Mt. Coronet quest, tho, right? — Laoris (Blah) 08:48, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
*hits self with shovel* Yeeeah... — THE TROM — 08:51, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
OK, let me rephrase. How about the only non-legendary? Fi-ray ►strike! 18:13, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
There are some Gen II Pokemon that can only be caught in the Kanto section of those games; i.e. Houndour at Route 7. So, I think not. — THE TROM — 23:47, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

What?

I almost caught a Beldum that actually knew more than 1 move!It knew Struggle and Take Down. But why?--sorou 18:02, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Pokémon that know Struggle have exhausted their normal movelist. Please investigate these matters yourself before jumping right onto talk pages. —darklordtrom 22:06, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

HG/SS Safari

Looks like you can catch wild beldums on HG/SS Safari. I didn't nor I can check it, this is word from a friend. And [spanish pokemon wiki] also says that. Anyone checked that? Zak Undersn 23:57, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

The german Pokéwiki also states that, though I do not know who had this information first. Qwesx 17:00, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
It's pretty much confirmed. The wiki page for the Safari Zone lists it, and so does the Pokémon Company walkthrough. I'd add it, but I'm not sure what the protocol is for that. Cornbread 00:51, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
Protocol is "go do it". Don't be scared to edit. —darklordtrom 03:06, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

Korean

Is its Korean name really Metang? Turtwig's A-B-Cs (talk | contribs) 14:05, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

It is. Why wouldn't it? --Maxim 14:39, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
I was just wondering, because Metang is its evolution's name. Turtwig's A-B-Cs (talk | contribs) 14:48, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

Sprites

The black and white beldum sprites are not shoing up as images, just as links, and the links dont show the images.--Kataangforever1 01:18, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

That's because we don't have the images yet :D —darklordtrom 10:09, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

Shiny?

Is there any way to get the Beldum from Steven to be Shiny, or will it always be normal? Gliscorguy54 17:40, 7 November 2010 (UTC) Just Save in front of the ball and recontinue untill you get itMeearaimeng 08:30, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

Catch Rate Trivia

The last part of the catch rate of 3 trivia brings up the everlasting sandstorm as if it made catching Beldum difficult along with Take Down. It correctly mentions that Steel, Rock, and Ground types are unaffected, but what does Beldum have to worry about when it happens to be part Steel type? The sandstorm isn't doing anything to it... So why's that part there? Shiramu Kuromu 23:20, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

The sandstorm can damage whatever Pokémon you send out to capture the Beldum. —Minimiscience 23:31, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

Heavy Ball in SM

Is this to be considered in Trivia section? It is not an official source or any kind of but this guy tweets all these nerd stuffs on his twitter. [[1]] He also explores the list. [[2]] (Rockapheller (talk) 16:29, 13 March 2017 (UTC))

Since there's such a long list, it definitely doesn't belong in the Trivia section of any of those species, not even Beldum. It's possible it might be worth mentioning on, say, Heavy Ball or Catch rate or something like that, but I don't have any strong opinion in regard to that. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 16:36, 13 March 2017 (UTC)