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:::::No problem. You did the right thing by bringing it up on the talk page. Plus, in an anime with over 500 episodes, it's easy to get things mixed up. Don't worry about thinking it actually happened. --[[User:PAK Man|PAK Man]] <sup>[[User talk:PAK Man|Talk]]</sup> 19:54, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
 
:::::No problem. You did the right thing by bringing it up on the talk page. Plus, in an anime with over 500 episodes, it's easy to get things mixed up. Don't worry about thinking it actually happened. --[[User:PAK Man|PAK Man]] <sup>[[User talk:PAK Man|Talk]]</sup> 19:54, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
 
::::::I know that it has been a while, but to avoid confusion, scientifically, if Pikachu kept living for,let's say, a thousand years, Pikachu would look VERY old but since the lifre force is eternal, I'm guessing when Pikachu turns to ashes, he's gonna be still alive (ouch) [[Image:Psychic-attack.png|Psychic]][[Image:Ani475MS.gif]] '''[[User:Optimus35|<span style="color:#000080">A</span><span style="color:#17365D">g</span><span style="color:#549DD4">e</span><span style="color:#8DB3E2">n</span><span style="color:#C6D9F0">t</span>]] [[User:Optimus35/Mission|<span style="color:#000080">4</span>]][[User:Optimus35/Emerald|<span style="color:#000080">4</span>]][[Gallade (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#000080">8</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Optimus35|<span style="color:#000080">δ</span>]] | [[User:Optimus35/Diamond&amp;Pearl|<span style="color: #B0E0E6">D</span><span style="color: #FFC0CB">P</span>]]''' </sup>[[Image:Fighting-attack.png|Fighting]] 13:24, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
 
::::::I know that it has been a while, but to avoid confusion, scientifically, if Pikachu kept living for,let's say, a thousand years, Pikachu would look VERY old but since the lifre force is eternal, I'm guessing when Pikachu turns to ashes, he's gonna be still alive (ouch) [[Image:Psychic-attack.png|Psychic]][[Image:Ani475MS.gif]] '''[[User:Optimus35|<span style="color:#000080">A</span><span style="color:#17365D">g</span><span style="color:#549DD4">e</span><span style="color:#8DB3E2">n</span><span style="color:#C6D9F0">t</span>]] [[User:Optimus35/Mission|<span style="color:#000080">4</span>]][[User:Optimus35/Emerald|<span style="color:#000080">4</span>]][[Gallade (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#000080">8</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Optimus35|<span style="color:#000080">δ</span>]] | [[User:Optimus35/Diamond&amp;Pearl|<span style="color: #B0E0E6">D</span><span style="color: #FFC0CB">P</span>]]''' </sup>[[Image:Fighting-attack.png|Fighting]] 13:24, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
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Thunderpunch

Didn't he get taught Thunderpunch at some point? --Greengiant 19:04, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Not that I can recall. Fabu-Vinny 17:18, 2 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Ash's Pikachu's Gender

Something like totally bothers me, does anyone know Pikachu's actual gender? --Hikari-chan 20:57, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

I thought that characters refer to it as "he" or "him", but that might just be casual talk when they don't know. But Pikachu doesn't have a dent in its tail... hmm... I guess there's no official definition yet, though. Aiddat 10:43, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Actually, no, Pikachu's gender has never been confirmed on the series, neither by the writers or anyone else involved. It's simply known as an "it". For some reason, many people believe that Pikachu is a male, but I personally believe it's a female. Anyway, my guess is, the characters on the show don't "know" what Pikachu's gender is, otherwise I'm sure it would've been revealed in the series at some point. Another theory I have is, maybe the writers hide Pikachu's gender purposely, so that everyone can have their own opinion about Pikachu's gender.

Judging by the fact that it lacks the dent at the end of it's tail in the DP series, this puts to rest any rumors and speculations, and confirms it to indeed be a male. - Jake

No it doesn't. Don't use Sinnoh Pokemon data for Kanto Pokemon. No female Pikachu from the other three regions (Gen II/III) have the dent, do they? - Cassius335

Until we get a GSDS, that'll definitely remain true. If and when we do, however, will prove it once and for all. Although, you technically can transfer a Pikachu from Kanto/Hoenn and it'll have a dent in the tail if it's female... TTEchidna 02:32, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

On the contrary, until he see a Pikachu in the Anime with a dent in it's tail, then we will know Pikachu is a male. Until then, it remains final that no gender will ever be specified for it. --Proto Fan 03:53, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

want bout buneary liking him or her does that mean either buneary is gay or buneary a male who likes to crossdress and what about the princess fest pikachu wasn't doing anything but carring misty's bags-sonicflames

Basically all evidence is circumstantial right now - Cassius335

In the episode "Lights, Camera, Quacktion!" is a hint that might help you solve this: first, since the movie being filmed is a love scene, the pokémon at the casting must be male to act as the wigglytuff's love interest (playing a Romeo part). So, Pikachu must be the same gender as Meowth (in love with the girl that trained a Parasect on a certain episode) or Psyduck (being called a "he" by brock in one episode of the first season). He is, therefore, a male, and so must be Arbok, Weezing, Meowth and Psyduck.--Snipe 07:12, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

The sheer history of theatre is against you on that one: Men in female roles (or vice versa) is fairly well known. And the director was an idiot, so gender may not have mattered much to him. Cassius335 21:09, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Concerning the indent in the tail, the developers could've made this a feature for males instead but considering the popularity of Ash's Pikachu, it may have been a feature on females instead. This is just my assumption.--Pkmn veteran 05:33, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Exactly my thoughts. I mean, really, it's not like the anime's writers and Game Freak's developers don't communicate. Heck, doesn't Sugimori do the concept art of the characters? I remember seeing one he drew of Ash. TTEchidna 18:43, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

This gender issue also makes me wonder if anyone actually inquired about this on the official Japanese Pokemon site. If memory serves me right, there is an inquiry page where you can ask about certain things like the game or the anime, although I'm not sure about their rules. Anyway, I believe there are some users who have the ability to ask questions in Japanese. --Pkmn veteran 02:27, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

On the Japanese site PokeAni in states that Pikachu is a male.[1]Ninja Hanako 08:26, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

It's jsut a fansite...File:Ani475MS.gif Agent #448 DP | E | File:Ani282MS.gif 08:32, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
Buneary's a girl! Therefore, Pikachu's a guy. And... well, the PUSA dub certainly would follow the official story more closely, I'd imagine, being that it's being run by Pokémon USA. Not to bash 4Kids at all, but PUSA knows what they're doing with their own franchise. No Seviper errors here. User:TTEchidna/sig 20:08, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
Evidence, however logical, is not proof. While I do see the case for "Pikachu is male", frankly I'd personally rather wait for Word Of God or a direct mention in the jp anime before saying it's proven. The absence of official word makes me think the Japanese writers etc might be up to something. Cassius335 22:48, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
I agree. Though I do think that Pikachu is in fact male, there is NO PROOF to back it up. --70pxSpr 3e 132.gifTheryguy512 Trozeiani025.gif 23:43, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
Which is exactly why I, begrudgingly, leave it as "Unknown"... though the "first nine seasons" debate is pretty much the worst ever... User:TTEchidna/sig 09:39, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
No Seviper errors? The "Arbok" of Mystery Dungeon says hi.
And the split tail argument is weakest of all given that the writers have purposefully avoided the issue so far.
Yes, Buneary is probably a girl since it wore a dress and Pikachu is probably a boy anyway. But your logic is weak. --FabuVinny T-C-S 10:09, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Ok, I was watching the Japanese version of Computer Soldier Porygon and towards the end when Ash goes to hand Pikachu in, Nurse Joy refers to Pikachu as a boy. She says, and I quote the English translation, "We'll look after him". It may not be efficient evidence, but I think it does have some value. 486TESH377TALK378FUN379 21:52, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
No, that's good evidence!User:Theryguy512/Sig 00:07, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

SIT, Pikachu is probly maile but we need more info first. Cerberus

You can't go by what a fansub said. For all you know they just could of wrote down "he" because the fansubber assumed that Pikachu was a boy. --File:Ani048MS.gifケンジFile:Ani183MS.gifガールFile:Ani123MS.gif 01:13, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

XD Perhaps... more investigating! 486TESH377TALK378FUN379 18:32, 8 January 2008 (UTC) "I just wanna live!!"

Pichu

I believe it was originally a Pichu. --Pikachu25 14:16, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

Pikachu was originally a Pichu like Ash was originally a baby. Sure, it probably was, but in EP001 it is a Pikachu while Ash is 10. That's all that counts unless we get some kind of flashback in a future episode. --FabuVinny T-C-S 20:30, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

i can't remimber which episode it was, but i'm sure about the fact that pikachu will never age or get old because he drank some river liquid which made him eternal Gaiden 03:16, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure that Pokémon never had the fountain of youth in the anime. Where'd you hear that? --Pie ~ 22:58, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
I actually saw it when the CW Was Kids WB, it wasn't a fountain of youth, but it was a rather strange river that made whoever drank from it eternal, it was possibly in the later or mid parts of indigo... or was it in orange islands? i remember misty and ash being there and another female but my memory is cloudy at that point - Gaiden 11:26, 04 August 2007 (UTC)
... I'm pretty sure there's no eternal life river, either, and if there was, they never did anything like make Pikachu special by drinking from it. Perhaps you've confused some details of another episode? --Pie ~ 17:07, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
I'm also 100% sure that never happened. I saw almost every episode on KidsWB with the exception of one or two Johto League Champions episodes. I also have a fairly good memory in regards to the episodes. I can't think of any episode where a) Pikachu drank from anything or b) say that it is ageless. --PAK Man Talk 17:48, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
Alright, it must have been something else then, i could have sworn something like that happened, but i could be thinking of another anime, thanks for your time everyone - Gaiden 02:51, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
No problem. You did the right thing by bringing it up on the talk page. Plus, in an anime with over 500 episodes, it's easy to get things mixed up. Don't worry about thinking it actually happened. --PAK Man Talk 19:54, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
I know that it has been a while, but to avoid confusion, scientifically, if Pikachu kept living for,let's say, a thousand years, Pikachu would look VERY old but since the lifre force is eternal, I'm guessing when Pikachu turns to ashes, he's gonna be still alive (ouch) PsychicFile:Ani475MS.gif Agent 448δ | DP Fighting 13:24, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
I believe that Gaiden has simply confused the healing properties of the lake and river in Mewtwo Returns. Matkin22 20:26, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Double-Edge

Wait a minute, when did Pikachu ever learn double-edge, and if it didn't specifically use learn as of Ash teaching it, when didit it first use the move. GlalieGuy 00:21, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

I think it tried to use the move once but failed. Ash may have tried to teach Pikachu Double-Edge but they gave up - Cassius335

From what I can recall, Friend and Foe Alike was the first dub mention of Ash's Pikachu using a Double-Edge attack. However, it was the stadium announcer mentioning it after Pikachu slammed into Happy after coming off the sidelines. It could have been different in the original...--Shiningpikablu252 03:00, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
That's correct. The exact line was "Pikachu jumps from the sidelines and delivers a devastating Double-edge attack!" --PAK Man Talk 17:35, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Bolded Moveset

Why was the last revision reverted? Looked like a reasonable idea to me. - Cassius335

No real need to indicate STAB for the anime. That's what the bolding's used for. TTEchidna 06:15, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
Fair enough, except that wasn't what the poster was doing. He was highlighting Pikachu's current moveset (notice he'd bolded Iron Tail, but not Thundershock or Thunder). - Cassius335
Hmm. Well, the question is, do Pokémon have the four-move limit in the anime? TTEchidna 01:11, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
Not as far as I've ever heard (Misty's Caserin has 5, for one). However, Ash's Pikachu hasn't used Thunder in about a season (since Volt Tackle turned up?), nor Agility since who knows when. A case could be made for moves being forgotten or at least becoming disused. - Cassius335
Hey guys, I'm the one who made the edit. Thunder has not been used at all since Pikachu learned Volt Tackle. Don't ask me when it started, but I think after a certain point, the anime tried to adhere a bit more to the games, and along with that, have the four move limit. It's never been spoken, but while you watch a battle in the show, you'll notice that the Pokemon never use more than 4 different moves... at least as far as I've seen. I haven't seen the episode with the Luvdiscs.- OmegaPlatinum
Hmm. Maybe we need to add notes to the moves for "First used" and "last used". - Cassius335
I don't think there is a case for moves being forgotten but stating that moves have not been used in a while is fine. --FabuVinny T-C-S 11:14, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Evolve?

Why does Ash not evolve Pikachu?Samrulz123File:Ani151MS.gif 05:48, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Because Ash is not that type of a trainer. He never forces them to evolve. If they want to evolve, they do so. File:Ani254MS.gifJmathTalkFile:Ani448MS.gif 13:39, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Isn't Ash that doesn't want that Pikachu evolves, it's Pikachu that refuses to do it. Watch the episode when Ash wins his 4th Gym Badge in Kanto. --Spr RS May.pngHaruka uzumaki 32px 15:21, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

In Electric Shock Showdown, the fourteenth episode of the series, Ash asked Pikachu if it wanted to evolve. He made it very clear that he would let Pikachu decide for itself. Pikachu refused, and that refusal still stands, which is why Pikachu will never evolve. --PAK Man Talk 15:25, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Well, if Pikachu just wants to stay weak then why does Ash still use it? Maybe it will evolve at the end of it?Samrulz123File:Ani151MS.gif 19:08, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Because it's his freakin' starter. He loves Pikachu, so he ain't letting go with it. Geez. Power isn't EVERYTHING! TinaTheKirlia File:Ani281MS.gif 19:15, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

1.That's the problem with Pikachu in the way it is now? Why does it need to evolve? It won't be the same thing if it evolves to a damn Raichu 2.POWER IS EVERYTHING.--Spr RS May.pngHaruka uzumaki 32px 20:08, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

I know very well that power isn't everything. Like I just said on Ash's discussion page: It depends on both the trainer and the Pokémon. Whats wrong with a Raichu, anyway? I thought that strength would be at least quater of a trainer's goal? Having your Pokémon look nice ain't gonna win you the league.Samrulz123File:Ani151MS.gif 04:43, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Pikachu is powerful as it is. It beat a REGICE, for god's sake!!! File:Ani254MS.gifJmathTalkFile:Ani448MS.gif 13:39, 6 November 2007 (UTC) If Pikachu doesn't want to evolve, it won't (or if it does, it will possibly be seriously upset about it) Cassius335 12:00, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Sounds reasonable. I, for one, am a fully evolved Pokémon and don't want to evolve any further! (Okay, maybe it's time I stopped acting liek a Gallade) Look at the episode closely Pikachu wacks the thunderstone away with it tail. Contact with the Thunderstone should evolve it, no? PsychicFile:Ani475MS.gif Agent 448δ | DP | Fighting 12:05, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Apparently it takes more contact than that. Cassius335 22:39, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Able to defeat Ground Pokemon

Is Pikachu able to defeat Ground tpyes like Phydon or Golem because of it's level or strength? Because when you think about, depending on a pokemon's level, it has different stats and abilites. Deani-Deani

Yes, but note that Ground-type Pokémon are immune to Electric-type attacks. Ash's Pikachu is able to defeat them because the Anime's writers sometimes comet some errors, if you compare with the games. (PS: sorry my bad grammar :) )--Spr RS May.pngHaruka uzumaki 32px 21:04, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Anime physics, plain and simple. TTEchidna 22:19, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Also it has some other moves than just electric type moves.idk how to make it the shiny green onejapaneese name was luckyan espeonSLE_Amanmy favorite pokemon

Male or It? Make up your mind!!

I see different parts of this article refer to Pikachu as "it" and "he". Now I'm seriously confused. Which is it already? It or he? Are we relying on the genders that PokeAni gives or not? --ケンジガール 07:59, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

the gender has not been confirmed......so it's an it. --Spr 3e 115.gifTheryguy512Spr 3e 202.gifSpr 3e 327.gif 11:47, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
umm... question. If it wasn't confirmed, then wouldn't they remove Pikachu and Ash from the Main cast because they didn't know what Gender it was? I mean, It wouldn't be the first time they would remove a character just because they couldn't figure out how to do something. Take Simone Deveaux from "Heroes", for example. the creators couldn't figure out how to direct her, so they ended up killing her off. I'd say it's Male, considering the whole tail thing (If the writers were able to screw continuity in "A Real Cleffa-hanger by having all of the original cast members act as if Cleffa were always in Mt. Moon despite the fact that they should have been clearly surprised that they were even there considering that they weren't there on their first visit to Mt. Moon, they can most certainly add in the whole heart shaped tail and act as though it has always existed. Unsigned comment by Weedle Mchairybug
Uh, no. Since Pikachu's gender doesn't matter that much in the scope of things, removing the main character to solve it would be a bit on the extreme side. Similarly, adding Cleffa to Mt. Moon is a far throw from changing the character design of an iconic Pokémon who has been in the series for 500+ episodes. Honestly, the writers probably see Pikachu as male but since they haven't said so, it is not confirmed in canon and we will continue to use "it". --FabuVinny T-C-S 19:39, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Double Edge (again)

I think we should remove the attack from the attacks Pikachu used. Yes in the English version it said he attacked with double edge but 4kids TV changed the words and mistakened them many times. Pokemaniac102

What did it say in the Japanese version? Anyone? Cassius335 02:05, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Pikachu says Kenny's name?

I HIGHLY doubt this. How can Pikachu say a name of a person it barely even knows while it has yet to speak the names of multiple of Ash's friends? Wouldn't at least Dawn be named by Pikachu before Kenny? I'm sorry. But that was a PURE coinsidence. Besides, Pikachu says "Pi-ka" for practically everything.

I'd really like to watch this episode myself but its downloading REALLY slowly at the moment. --ケンジガール 09:40, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Sure, it might've been "It's you!" or something, but we had Ash "Kengo!", Brock "Kengo!" and then Pikachu "Pi-ka!" so it seems as if that's what Pikachu's calling him. Besides, if "PiPikachu!" can mean "Rocketto-dan!" and "We did it!" at the same time... User:TTEchidna/sig 10:34, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Pi-ka is said all the time. Cerberus

No, but everyone said "KENGO!", which Pikachu followed up with "PI-KA!". Pikachu says "PiPikachu!" when Ash gets a badge, too, but Team Rocket's nowhere to be seen. That's the beauty of speech with three syllables. User:TTEchidna/sig 20:26, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Mabie it was "That guy" Cerberus

Well, what's "that guy" in Japanese? If it's two syllables, sure... User:TTEchidna/sig 05:17, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Trivia

Just wanted to know if this is trivia worthy. OK here it goes...Ash's Pikachu has battled all the members of the Electabuzz evolutionary family at one time or the other but has not won even once. (Pikachu battled Rudy's Electabuzz, Gary's Electivire and Paul's Elekid) File:Ani448MS.gifJmathFile:Ani447MS.gifTalkFile:Ani448MS.gif 19:21, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

I deem that good trivia! User:Theryguy512/Sig 23:31, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
Seconded. - Cassius335 14:02, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
I think that it would beat Paul's Electivire(guess) in the Sinnoh League!-Billy4b2004 06:10, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
I have a correction to this little piece of trivia. Although Pikachu hasn't won against very many elevolutions, he has won against at least one. It was in episode 221 A Promise is a Promise during the Master Quest season where Pikachu and Sparky (Richy's Pikachu) defeated Dr. Namba's Electabuzz together. If you were to say that Pikachu has never beat an Elevolution in a 1-on-1 match, then you'd be correct. Pikafanman 12:47, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
Gah, I hate it when people nitpick trivia. - Cassius335 12:18, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
Sorry, but I hate when people say things about Pikachu that aren't true. In fact, I need to change his page. Pikafanman 10:35, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
I'm afraid a direct edit to Ash's Pikachu isn't possible at this time. It's been protected due to an edit war over what some people believe is it evolving in DP074, despite the fact that such an event has already been disproven. --Shiningpikablu252 17:38, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
Gah, now Fabu-Vinny's removed the trivia in question, when it was saveable with a bit of rewriting. - Cassius335 20:07, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
It's a wiki. You can put your own wording in after DP074 airs. --FabuVinny T-C-S 20:10, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Speak

Can you really prove that Pikachu means quick attack when he says the first part of hid name! USeless trivia!--336Darth157Cookie168Monster141 03:44, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

If it's said consistently when using the move... User:TTEchidna/sig 23:59, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
But that doesn't really prove anything. My darkrai makes the same noise when I use attacks with itUser:Darth Cookie Monster/Sig
Games do not equal anime. --PAK Man Talk 01:07, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
That's the sound of the move, not the Pokémon. User:TTEchidna/sig 02:19, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
Oh vell, in my opinion it is junkUser:Darth Cookie Monster/Sig
Not exactly, it could possibly reveal the secret of deciphering the Pokémon languageUser:Pokemaniac102/Sig 02:25, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
Think of it this way: Dark Pulse makes the same noise if it's used by Ninetales or by Darkrai. The moves are sound effects-based, there's only like three moves that are based on the cries of the Pokémon, which are far, far, far from the quality of the anime's VAs. Even for Gen IV.
Pikachu in the games does not make the Thunderbolt noise. It makes Growl, which is basically a warped version of its cry. In the anime, Pikachu speaks in the three syllables of it name. This has meaning, which Ikue Ohtani gives to it. User:TTEchidna/sig 02:45, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Double-Edge (Take 3)

I vaguely remember him using Double-Edge in the Kanto League finals but can't be certain. I remember very clearly thinking DE was a stupid move to teach a Pikachu. --Zeta 18:27, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Dub edit, I believe. But do we have to go into it again? - Cassius335