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493-Ice.png Due to special coding in place in the article to illustrate Arceus's Formes, as affected by its ability, Multitype, certain displays will change showing Arceus as though it were holding the Icicle Plate, therefore being an Template:Type2 Pokémon. This will only affect the type-themed color displays, the type effectiveness entry, if any, which is unhidden, the moves, if any, noted as STAB for this Pokémon, the sprite shown in the evobox, the sprites shown in the spritebox, and the plate sprite shown below the spritebox. This changes every second, so when the time comes, click here to return to the page and change the display.


  • Archive 1 (discussions from October 13, 2006 – December 13, 2008)


Is the color and box from the Tutoring Moveset (I think) supposed to be expanding past the sprite box? I see the Rock type stuff, if that matters. (No, I don't think it is my browser, other Pokémon's pages are still fine) The Dark Fiddler - Nos hablamos? 14:13, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

I have fixed it stop the problem was that he closed the time, not the tutor box stopDCM((曲奇饼妖怪Spy on My Edits))

Out of intrest

Has anyone tried to see if Arceus' ??? type forme is in PBR? Zsaberslash 20:52, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

And possibly in Platinum, as well? In a method other than cheating? --Bulbapedian - Talk 20:55, 1 January 2009 (UTC)


Instead of fanart ...shouldn't we use something OFFICIAL even if its just a PBR screenshot, or a sprite --LilRed 00:11, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

The fanart fulfills our needs best. Besides, the official artwork is only a couple of months away now. --FabuVinny |Talk Page| 00:32, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
If they'll release an official artwork of Arceus, does it mean that Arceus is officially released also?Palkia38 06:54, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
Yes, this is what it would seem like. It's predicted to be released at a similar time to the next movie. — THE TROM — 06:56, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
How on Earth did whoever drew that picture get it so perfect when the sprite is so tiny? They must have got something wrong surely? Taromon777 19:36, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
Yes, the artist, Seyanni, did get several details wrong from what we now know about the features of Arceus. First of all, the face has two lines running across it, not just one. There are grey triangles on the inside of each of its legs, and the red parts of its eyes have black slits, like Dialga, Palkia, and Giratina. In addition, the wheel is more pointed and the green circles he/she drew are actually gems. So, really, like I've said before, this fanart is far from accurate, but now there's really no need to replace it (though I've given the site several months to use my own artwork (, which is, of course, more accurate) when Arceus is set to be revealed on the 15th (with a leak anywhere from the 12th to the 14th). (Of course, the Pokémon set to be revealed could also be something else.) Xous 18:16, 9 February 2009 (UTC)


Looking at Darkrai and Shaymin's, it seems that the reveal will be just around February 14, 2009. Isn't that convenient. So I'd like to notify you all... don't bother with it until then. TTEchidna 06:52, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Actually, it is expected to be leaked today, and officially revealed on January 19.--Mence Master 13:47, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Listen to the Editor-in-Chief. Don't bother until the reveal. The Dark Fiddler - Nos hablamos? 13:54, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

And TTE is right. I think he has psychic abilities. -Anangryzapdos 19:03, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

???-type Explanation Doesn't Make Sense

One of our members brought up a good point about the explanation (in this article) about why Nintendo put the ??? Arceus in the game. We think that it was put in because Nintendo's code for Multitype required a sprite to be filled for every single type. This is our best guess, and I certainly think it's more plausible than "preventing game crashes for hackers." Hackers can crash the game quite easily otherwise - why would they prevent it in one way when we can do it in a thousand other ways? Remember, Nintendo doesn't care for or even acknowledge hackers. -Coolbho3000 00:33, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Following that logic, why put a vestigial Safari Zone in GSC? Why make it harder to access MissingNo in Yellow and impossible in FrLg? Like it or not, Nintendo has put many things in for the purpose of preventing crashes. Kiryu 04:59, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
The Safari Zone in G/S/C was there because it was originally supposed to be in there, but they decided later not to include it. And Missingno. was excluded from later games because it was a glitch that was accessible without cheats. They took it out for the same reason that they hire game testers: they want their games to be as glitch-free as possible. And it did cause crashes, but it could be accessed without cheats, unlike the ???-type Arceus. I agree with Coolbho.--Celebi96 13:51, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Animated sprite.

It doesn't change for me. It's just the regular Arceus. --ケンジガール 00:57, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

you maam are using Internet Explorer. that is an animated .png, which your browser does not support. -- MAGNEDETH 00:59, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
Don't you think that's a little unfair for people who prefer to user IE? What's wrong with just using a gif file? --ケンジガール 01:02, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
lesser quality. take it up with TTE. -- MAGNEDETH 01:03, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
You should use Firefox. D: -Sketch 01:05, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
I have used it and I hated it. It made my computer move incredibly slow. --ケンジガール 01:16, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
How many addons did you give it? That's usually what kills it. I mean, mine's running using 118,784K, next most is Windows Explorer with not even 10% of that much. It's a given with the 13 extensions I have for it... Anyway, Opera's most recent release supports anipngs too, or so I've heard. Given, I plan to make that specific spritecycle a gif again, since the whole point of that is to animate. Other anipngs you don't lose much with them being not animated. TTEchidna 01:35, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
Google chrome doesn't accept anipngs, and firefox takes an age to start up for me. I also hate IE. Lord of Origami 11:28, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
It works on opera just fine, Who uses IE nowadays anyway? And Mozilla's slow.... too slow.--FF(edits-talk) 11:52, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
Anyway, I recommend you try Opera, if you haven't done so. It's light, fast, simple to use, secure, stable, complete and free so you don't have to worry. And it'll still work with Windows 98. XD Besides, it's MS's fault for not giving better support for web standards 'cause it's "cooler" to use their own. Pokemon lover 18:45, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

???-type arceus existance

If anyone can hack platinum and try changing arceus' type to ???-type and it appears then its existance is official, anybody care and try?--Nobody777 12:22, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

We have the sprite. That's all the proof you need. ΘρtιmαtumTalk 14:01, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

sorry, forgot about that. --Nobody777 14:03, 11 January 2009 (UTC)


there is a legend in arab myths that says that god created a horse from the north wind and it was the frist being on earth, arceus is a horse and the first Pokémon in existance, should we add this to the origin part in the article?--Nobody777 13:29, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

That seems more like an origin for Suicune, because of the north wind bit... Though Suicune isn't a horse. I don't know, it might be a legitimate origin.--Celebi96 14:15, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Arceus reminds me of the andalites from the animorphs books except it only has two eyes and no arms or tail. However in the movie it can speak with telepathy. Did any one else notice the similarities or am I just insane?--Mtn otter 17:41, 7 August 2009 (UTC)


I saw this likely vandalism in the tivia section:

At level 80, Arceus is the second highest level non-glitch Pokémon available for capture. The highest is Magikarp which can be caught at level 100 in Pokémon Platinum. It is, however, still the highest level legendary Pokémon available for capture.

I am hoping this is a joke or vandalism.

Alakazam 2

Check Magikarp's article. It's a legit piece of trivia. -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 07:04, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Official Art

Here we have it, Sugimori's Art for it, taken directly from the site. <img>arcus_01.jpg</img>--Mence Master 02:18, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

23s8bon.png Is that acceptable? I got it from the Japanese site. I know, it's a bit small.. --×Kevzo8 02:39, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
the official image is already on the page. -- MAGNEDETH 02:49, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
OIC. I posted the wrong image, though. Twas an anime art. D: ×Kevzo8 10:33, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
PokéBeach has cut out all of the arts, including the official art, but WPM has requested that nobody use that art.

--Mence Master 15:00, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

Is their any artwork for the other types, or just Normal typed Arceus?Jmvb 22:19, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
New artwork (actually biggest):--Mew a.k.a. Prmatt11 at 01:57, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

U.S. Reveal

Since the page is locked, can one of the mods make a note about how it has not been revealed in the U.S., and probably won't be until early next year. --HoennMaster 04:44, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

That's Anime art. Official Art is similar to it's Platinum Sprite.--Mence Master 03:19, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
What does that have to do with my post? --HoennMaster 03:34, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
I'll answer. That's not necessary to say. Besides, it's speculation. -Sketch 20:12, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Type-change grammar

Due to the special coding for Multitype, if the page changes to Electric or Ice, the grammar in the article becomes incorrect, displaying as "a Electric-type" or "a Ice-type". Since I have no idea how the coding works, and the fact that the page is protected anyway, would it be possible for someone to fix that bit of grammar on the Zap and Icicle versions of the page?

A minor error, but an error nonetheless. βetA ZerØ 03:34, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for fixing it, TTE. βetA ZerØ 04:19, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Just realized the same grammar error is on this talk page... βetA ZerØ 22:06, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Should be fixed now... βetA ZerØ 22:09, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Typer effectiveness box for ??? type

Considering the the ??? type can show up at random on this page should a type effectiveness box show up for it too? Jmvb 16:23, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

I guess I could do it. I don't know the numbers though, ar all types just normal effective?--MisterE13 16:27, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
??? has no strengths and weaknesses; all types are normal. Learned this from Weather Ball and Shadow Sky. βetA ZerØ 16:50, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
Just remembered that the page is protected so I can't actually change it. LOL!--MisterE13 18:44, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
Don't bother. One, there's no way to access ??? Arceus, so it doesn't matter, and two, the type effectiveness of anything against the ???-type is NORMAL DAMAGE. TTEchidna 05:48, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

Arceus to be in Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of the Sky!

Hi everybody, I just got information from today confirming Arceus will appear in the game as well as several other things as well. So the In Side Games section you can put that Arceus will make it's Mystery Dungeon debut in Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of the Sky. --Dialgafan1 19:00, 12 March 2009 (UTC)Dialgafan1

Unfortunately, it only appears as a statue and can't actually be encountered or recruited.--Celebi96 14:13, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

English Pokémon Platinum Pokédex Entry.

The anglish Pokémon Platinum Pokédex Entry has been confirmed as "It is said to have emerged from an egg in a place where there was nothing, then shaped the world. " May someone edit the page to include this? ~m190049~talk 20:43, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Talk page glitch

I noticed when Arceus' page is ???-Type, the message on the top of the page says "DON'T ASK WHY ARCEUS IS A NORMAL-TYPE! It just IS!", incorrectly... ~m190049~talk 20:48, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

It's because it changes on the second you access the page. Since you accessed the talk page on a different second than the article, it's different. If you go on the page and wait exactly 18 seconds (or a multiple thereof) then check here it should be good.--MisterE13 20:54, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

US Platinum dex entry/page unlock

Can someone please unlock the page so that the English Platinum Dex entry can be added? And why was it even locked in the first place? Frugali 12:13, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Because of the upcoming movie and some impatient users. --Prongs (TalkContributions) 12:15, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
I you want, you can just add the entry here so that once admins are around, they could place it in the article. Kevzo8 12:16, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
Someone already posted the Dex entry above me, but I guess I'll just copypaste it: It is said to have emerged from an egg in a place where there was nothing, then shaped the world. And yes, I would want an admin to put it in if it's going to remain locked until the movie's release. Frugali 12:19, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
Done. Thanks guys for noticing this. — THE TROM — 21:15, 8 April 2009 (UTC)


Why is this page protected?--Thomas Michael William Patrick Sales 10:01, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

*cough* Movie 12 *cough* Kevzo8 10:26, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

Event Moves

Should the Event Moves (Spacial Rend, Roar of Time, Shadow Force) be added to its moveset? It knows these at Level 100 at the Japanese event this summer. - unsigned comment from JacobCrystal (talkcontribs)

Should we insert the Movie Arceus event?

I mean, Corocoro had already revealed that there is going to be an event in HGSS unlocked by Movie Arceus where the player can choose a Level 1 Dialga, Palkia, and Giratina. I think it should be worth noting that they should mention this in this article. Weedle Mchairybug 13:19, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Name origin

Hey guys, an idea had just sprouted in my head. The name might also come from the latin verb arceo, which roughly translates to "I watch from a distance". /Ziemniax

Actually, that word means "enclose". But it could still be a name origin, since Arceus was enclosed in the Hall of Origin.--Celebi96 14:19, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Both of you are right. if it has a long e then it means "I watch from a distane" but a short e means "enclose"--Mtn otter 17:29, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Arceus catch Trivia

As a point in the trivia I think it should be mentioned that Arceus is the only trio master (as of yet and i suspect always will be) not catchable by typical in-game mechanics instead needing to obtain an item solely distributed by a Nintendo event. All others are obtainable in their original generations via typical methods (i.e. just a simple in-game event or simply trading from a complimentary version) rather than and individual physically having to go to a Nintendo event to receive an item that cannot be obtained in games. I'm sorry if this point seems to sound redundant but I'm not sure if everyone will understand what I mean. -- D558 06:21, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Psh, who says you have to go outside? You can WFC the Azure Flute... eventually... presumably... likely... in the future. But yes, that's a good point. Do it. TTEchidna 06:24, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
I dunno if the page is protected or if my ability to edit pages has been taken away but I can't add this trivia... I guess i'll have to wait until it is unprotected or someone else will have to state this fact -- D558 18:50, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

Is it possible to have playable MP3 files to get Pokemon cries? I'm getting confused as to what Arceus' sounds like, because the text box says Dodogyuuun! and [this movie] has mediocre sound graphics and sounds like a hi-pitched vibrating and Ayeayeaye! - unsigned comment from Giratina's Embodiment (talkcontribs) 19:34, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

I think has them. I had all the Sinnoh ones at one point, but I may have deleted them when iTunes tried to be stupid with them. —darklordtrom 20:10, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
Have a ball. TTEchidna 05:27, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Arceus infobox at the top of this page

Shouldn't this be in the article instead? What is it doing here? -- Socob ( Talk | Contribs ) 13:32, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

TTE found them too distracting for the articles. Here it's mostly a warning not to ask why Arceus is Ice.--MisterE13 16:39, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
I see. It does seem to be kind of messed up, too. -- Socob ( Talk | Contribs ) 12:48, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

HGSS Overworld

Isn't that cool if the page have the HGSS overworld, other pokemon too