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== Teleport? ==
== Teleport? ==


I found teleport in the attack list, can someone confirm this? This doesn't make any sense, because Arcanine shouldn't be able to teleport unless it was teported by some other Pokémon. Well, its fast speed might make it look like it's teleporting, but it still doesn't make any sense. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 12:50, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
I found teleport in the attack list, can someone confirm this? This doesn't make any sense, because Arcanine shouldn't be able to teleport unless it was teported by some other Pokémon. Well, its fast speed might make it look like it's teleporting, but it still doesn't make any sense. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 12:50, 3 November 2007 (UTC)


In {{m|Teleport)) article, it says Arcanine can somehow learn Teleport using a TM... but I don't suppose that's a real confirmation... -[[Image:Ani026MS.gif]][[User:Mudkipchan|Mudkipchan]][[Image:Ani392MS.gif]]
:In {{m|Teleport)) article, it says Arcanine can somehow learn Teleport using a TM... but I don't suppose that's a real confirmation... -[[User:Mudkipchan|Mudkipchan]]


::It's really, really fast.  Which makes as much sense as Dodrio's jumping qualifying it for {{m|Fly}}. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>|[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]|</sup> 19:19, 13 June 2008 (UTC)


That, and the move can be learned by TM in the first generation. I remember randomly trying to teach the move once when I got it.... [[User:Tsum|Tsum]] 04:05, 29 May 2009 (UTC)


===Thunder Fang===
==Thunder Fang==


Can Arcanine learn Thunder Fang? Some other people have said it on other websites, but I cant confirm it (No DS on me) and neither Serebii nor Bulbapedia have it listed.
Can Arcanine learn Thunder Fang? Some other people have said it on other websites, but I cant confirm it (No DS on me) and neither Serebii nor Bulbapedia have it listed.
-Link6491
:Move tutor. Get a Heart Scale and go to the move tutor in Pastoria. [[User:Tina|Tina]]<sup> [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]]</sup> 20:19, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
Can someone add that?  I am unsure of how to.  -Link6491
:It goes for many Pokémon, like Medicham and the elemental punches and stuff. [[User:Tina|Tina]]<sup> [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]]</sup> 17:40, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
::I just bred a Growlithe (from an Arcanine), and evolved it straight into an Arcanine, which learned Thunder Fang, Fire Fang, and Odor Sleuth. Unless this is a glitch, it seems that it can learn Thunder Fang. <font color=#555599>'''[[User:Kenn1985|~Kenn]] '''</font> 17:48, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
:::Arcanine can definitely learn Thunder Fang. It learns the move at Lv.1. [[User:SharKing|SharKing]] 21:33, 12 September 2008 (UTC)SharKing
== New Picture ==
Hey guys. In the anime apearances theres that picture from "On Cloud Arcanine". That pictures not very good in my opinion and if I find a better one, can I change it? [[User:Hatsumi|Hatsumi]] 15:40, 26 May 2008 (UTC)Hatsumi
:Well, I put it up there. I hope it looks OK [[User:Hatsumi|Hatsumi]] 15:57, 26 May 2008 (UTC)Hatsumi
== Legendary ==
This article says "Because of its high stats, its species, and the fact that it was illustrated in an ancient slab along with the legendary birds in the second episode, it can be assumed that Arcanine was originally planned to be part of the legendary trio in first generation games; possibly even the birds' trio master."
I just don't like that "it can be assumed". I don't think that is nearly enough evidence for it to be "assumed". Maybe "it is possible that", but I don't agree that it can be "assumed". I mean, the fact that Dragonite has higher total base stats than it, isn't that quite major evidence that it was never going to be legendary? And I think it was only featured on that slab because its species name is "Legendary", and we know well that species names mean nothing. For example, we don't say that Slowbro has anything to do with a crab because it is a "Hermit Crab" pokemon. I admit that this is evidence for it possibly being a legendary, but I really don't think it can be "assumed". Sorry to be really specific about this, but I think a one word change would actually make a fairly major difference.[[User:Gastly&#39;s mama|Gastly&#39;s mama]] 15:09, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
:I think it has Legendary status because of all the supposed stories on it.  I believe in the Anime they made references to its "supposed" legendary speed and what not.  Thats really all I can offer. [[User:Xanhawk|Xanhawk]]
== Trivia: Slaking/Arcanine Average Base Stat Ranking ==
[[Arcanine (Pokémon)]]'s Trivia section: "Arcanine has the second-highest base stat average of any non-legendary and non-pseudo-legendary Pokémon, next to Slaking."
[[Slaking (Pokémon)]]'s Trivia section: "Slaking has the second highest base stat average of any non-legendary Pokémon."
[[List of Pokémon by base stats]]'s Table (condensed to relevant non-legendaries):
Pokemon  Base Average
Slaking  111.67
Tyranitar 100.00
Metagross 100.00
Dragonite 100.00
Salamence 100.00
Garchomp  100.00
Arcanine  92.50
There are a number of issues with this.
Firstly and most obviously is that these trivia notes contradict each other.
Second is that, arguably, neither of these are true in the first place. Slaking is #1, not #2, and Arcanine is #6 (disregarding "and non-pseudo-legendary Pokémon" in the trivia note) behind Garchomp, Salamence, Dragonite, Metagross, Tryanitar and Slaking but for one thing; Arcanine is a legendary pokemon according to it's pokedex entry, thus #6 should be Togekiss (90.83) given legendaries are excluded and if you also exclude the pseudo-legendaries, #2. (note that when I started writing this I had missed the non-pseudo-legendary part of Arcanine's trivia point but that does not invalidate my point that the trivia regarding to base averages needs to be refined and uniform)
--[[User:Yasamito|Yasamito]] 05:30, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
:I think I fixed it. &mdash; <small>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<font color="#0000C8">THE TROM</font></small>]] &mdash; 07:16, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
This IS NOT legendary. [[User:Blade Bro.|Blade Bro.]]
== New Johto Dex # for HGSS ==
According to Serebii.net, Lapras, as well as Growlithe's #s in the dex are changed. Lapras new # is 224, and Growlithe and Arcaniane are 129 and 130 respectively. o_O '''<font color="#0000FF">*</font><font color="#1E90FF">*</font><font color="#0000FF">*</font>''[[User:Supernicknobros|<font color="#0000FF">Super!</font>]]''<font color="#0000FF">~</font>[[User talk:Supernicknobros|<font color="#1E90FF">Nickno</font>]]''' 14:48, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
== Arcanine originally had the name "Blaze." Where is the source? ==
Blaze is Original name of Japanese version? Or,Blaze is Original Localize name of English version?
[[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 07:14, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
:English name.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#444444">'''F'''</span>]][[Reshiram (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#858585">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#C3C3C3">'''F'''</span>]][[Zekrom (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#D8D8D8">ire</span>]] 07:20, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
::Do you think that an English version is original? As for "Original name", I think about a Japanese version. [[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 07:26, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
:::I have clarified the point to specify that this is in the Red and Blue beta. Hopefully that clears things up for you. &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 08:03, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
:::: Thank you for a splendid page.[[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 08:15, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
== Trivia ==
"Arcanine is based on all animals the Legendary Beasts are based on: a tiger, a dog and a lion. Describing its species name: 'the legendary Pokémon' and making it candidate for the Pokémon Ho-Oh resurrected, although the latter is speculation." Kindly remind me where is the "dog" part, I went to Suicune article (which is the linked one) and there were no mentions of dogs. Entei is the one that has hints of dogs on his design but he is mostly a lion. [[User:LurKasumi|LurKasumi]] 21:13, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
:I don't think Suicune's article relates it to dogs, mostly big cats. Entei is like a dog/lion, and Raikou resembles a real animal more than any of the others, I guess. I thought that 'legendary Pokémon' just pertained to its Pokédex references to China. Except for its grouping with the legendary birds. [[User:Pringles|I like potato chips...]] 02:41, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
:It doesn't matter that the Suicune article mentions no dogs, it appears more canine than the other Legendary Beasts. Compare it's snout to Arcanine's and Houndoom's for example.[[User:Robbie|Robbie]] ([[User talk:Robbie|talk]]) 12:46, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
== Highest base stat total of all normal Pokémon ==
Excluding Legendary Pokémon (which is a frequent exception when talking about base stat totals), Pseudo-Legendary Pokémon (same case as with the Legendary Pokémon, Mega Evolutions (same case, as if they are the new Generation VI Legendary Pokémon) and Pokémon with hindering Abilities (Archeops and Slaking for obvious reasons), Arcanine has the highest base stat total of all Pokémon. When you check the list of highest base stat totals, and start looking up from Arcanine, you'll first see Archeops and then a whole list of not-normally powered Pokémon. So, is this noteworthy trivia or not? [[User:Nickvang|Nickvang]] ([[User talk:Nickvang|talk]]) 14:46, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
:Archeops and Slaking are higher, it doesn't matter of they have hindering Abilities. Furthermore, "normal" is entirely subjective and shouldn't be used. [[User:Glik|Glik]] ([[User talk:Glik|talk]]) 14:58, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
::Agreed. Legendaries and Megas are completely reasonable to exclude, but Archeops and Slaking can easily have their Abilities removed, so they aren't always necessarily excludable on the basis of usability alone. I'm not sure why you're excluding pseudos, either; they're completely ordinary Pokémon (breedable, never {{DL|Shiny Pokémon|Unobtainable Shiny Pokémon|Shiny-locked}}, can be found in the wild, and so forth). [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 16:23, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

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Teleport?

I found teleport in the attack list, can someone confirm this? This doesn't make any sense, because Arcanine shouldn't be able to teleport unless it was teported by some other Pokémon. Well, its fast speed might make it look like it's teleporting, but it still doesn't make any sense. TheBlazikenMaster 12:50, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

In {{m|Teleport)) article, it says Arcanine can somehow learn Teleport using a TM... but I don't suppose that's a real confirmation... -Mudkipchan
It's really, really fast. Which makes as much sense as Dodrio's jumping qualifying it for Fly. --FabuVinny |Talk Page| 19:19, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

That, and the move can be learned by TM in the first generation. I remember randomly trying to teach the move once when I got it.... Tsum 04:05, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Thunder Fang

Can Arcanine learn Thunder Fang? Some other people have said it on other websites, but I cant confirm it (No DS on me) and neither Serebii nor Bulbapedia have it listed. -Link6491

Move tutor. Get a Heart Scale and go to the move tutor in Pastoria. Tina δ 20:19, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

Can someone add that? I am unsure of how to. -Link6491

It goes for many Pokémon, like Medicham and the elemental punches and stuff. Tina δ 17:40, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
I just bred a Growlithe (from an Arcanine), and evolved it straight into an Arcanine, which learned Thunder Fang, Fire Fang, and Odor Sleuth. Unless this is a glitch, it seems that it can learn Thunder Fang. ~Kenn 17:48, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
Arcanine can definitely learn Thunder Fang. It learns the move at Lv.1. SharKing 21:33, 12 September 2008 (UTC)SharKing

New Picture

Hey guys. In the anime apearances theres that picture from "On Cloud Arcanine". That pictures not very good in my opinion and if I find a better one, can I change it? Hatsumi 15:40, 26 May 2008 (UTC)Hatsumi

Well, I put it up there. I hope it looks OK Hatsumi 15:57, 26 May 2008 (UTC)Hatsumi

Legendary

This article says "Because of its high stats, its species, and the fact that it was illustrated in an ancient slab along with the legendary birds in the second episode, it can be assumed that Arcanine was originally planned to be part of the legendary trio in first generation games; possibly even the birds' trio master." I just don't like that "it can be assumed". I don't think that is nearly enough evidence for it to be "assumed". Maybe "it is possible that", but I don't agree that it can be "assumed". I mean, the fact that Dragonite has higher total base stats than it, isn't that quite major evidence that it was never going to be legendary? And I think it was only featured on that slab because its species name is "Legendary", and we know well that species names mean nothing. For example, we don't say that Slowbro has anything to do with a crab because it is a "Hermit Crab" pokemon. I admit that this is evidence for it possibly being a legendary, but I really don't think it can be "assumed". Sorry to be really specific about this, but I think a one word change would actually make a fairly major difference.Gastly's mama 15:09, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

I think it has Legendary status because of all the supposed stories on it. I believe in the Anime they made references to its "supposed" legendary speed and what not. Thats really all I can offer. Xanhawk

Trivia: Slaking/Arcanine Average Base Stat Ranking

Arcanine (Pokémon)'s Trivia section: "Arcanine has the second-highest base stat average of any non-legendary and non-pseudo-legendary Pokémon, next to Slaking."

Slaking (Pokémon)'s Trivia section: "Slaking has the second highest base stat average of any non-legendary Pokémon."

List of Pokémon by base stats's Table (condensed to relevant non-legendaries):

Pokemon Base Average

Slaking 111.67

Tyranitar 100.00

Metagross 100.00

Dragonite 100.00

Salamence 100.00

Garchomp 100.00

Arcanine 92.50

There are a number of issues with this. Firstly and most obviously is that these trivia notes contradict each other. Second is that, arguably, neither of these are true in the first place. Slaking is #1, not #2, and Arcanine is #6 (disregarding "and non-pseudo-legendary Pokémon" in the trivia note) behind Garchomp, Salamence, Dragonite, Metagross, Tryanitar and Slaking but for one thing; Arcanine is a legendary pokemon according to it's pokedex entry, thus #6 should be Togekiss (90.83) given legendaries are excluded and if you also exclude the pseudo-legendaries, #2. (note that when I started writing this I had missed the non-pseudo-legendary part of Arcanine's trivia point but that does not invalidate my point that the trivia regarding to base averages needs to be refined and uniform) --Yasamito 05:30, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

I think I fixed it. — THE TROM — 07:16, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

This IS NOT legendary. Blade Bro.

New Johto Dex # for HGSS

According to Serebii.net, Lapras, as well as Growlithe's #s in the dex are changed. Lapras new # is 224, and Growlithe and Arcaniane are 129 and 130 respectively. o_O ***Super!~Nickno 14:48, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Arcanine originally had the name "Blaze." Where is the source?

Blaze is Original name of Japanese version? Or,Blaze is Original Localize name of English version? Sawamular101 07:14, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

English name.--ForceFire 07:20, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
Do you think that an English version is original? As for "Original name", I think about a Japanese version. Sawamular101 07:26, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
I have clarified the point to specify that this is in the Red and Blue beta. Hopefully that clears things up for you. —darklordtrom 08:03, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
Thank you for a splendid page.Sawamular101 08:15, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

Trivia

"Arcanine is based on all animals the Legendary Beasts are based on: a tiger, a dog and a lion. Describing its species name: 'the legendary Pokémon' and making it candidate for the Pokémon Ho-Oh resurrected, although the latter is speculation." Kindly remind me where is the "dog" part, I went to Suicune article (which is the linked one) and there were no mentions of dogs. Entei is the one that has hints of dogs on his design but he is mostly a lion. LurKasumi 21:13, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

I don't think Suicune's article relates it to dogs, mostly big cats. Entei is like a dog/lion, and Raikou resembles a real animal more than any of the others, I guess. I thought that 'legendary Pokémon' just pertained to its Pokédex references to China. Except for its grouping with the legendary birds. I like potato chips... 02:41, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
It doesn't matter that the Suicune article mentions no dogs, it appears more canine than the other Legendary Beasts. Compare it's snout to Arcanine's and Houndoom's for example.Robbie (talk) 12:46, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

Highest base stat total of all normal Pokémon

Excluding Legendary Pokémon (which is a frequent exception when talking about base stat totals), Pseudo-Legendary Pokémon (same case as with the Legendary Pokémon, Mega Evolutions (same case, as if they are the new Generation VI Legendary Pokémon) and Pokémon with hindering Abilities (Archeops and Slaking for obvious reasons), Arcanine has the highest base stat total of all Pokémon. When you check the list of highest base stat totals, and start looking up from Arcanine, you'll first see Archeops and then a whole list of not-normally powered Pokémon. So, is this noteworthy trivia or not? Nickvang (talk) 14:46, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

Archeops and Slaking are higher, it doesn't matter of they have hindering Abilities. Furthermore, "normal" is entirely subjective and shouldn't be used. Glik (talk) 14:58, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
Agreed. Legendaries and Megas are completely reasonable to exclude, but Archeops and Slaking can easily have their Abilities removed, so they aren't always necessarily excludable on the basis of usability alone. I'm not sure why you're excluding pseudos, either; they're completely ordinary Pokémon (breedable, never Shiny-locked, can be found in the wild, and so forth). Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 16:23, 14 January 2014 (UTC)