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== Edit request ==
== Edit request ==
Swap the image in the anime section (Aerodactyl anime.jpg) with DP017.png so the jpg can be deleted. Thanks! <font color="#3fff00">'''UltimateSephiroth'''</font> <sup>([[User:UltimateSephiroth|<font color="#3f7f00">about me</font>]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|<font color="#3f7f00">chat</font>]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]])</sup> 11:53, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
Swap the image in the anime section (Aerodactyl anime.jpg) with DP017.png so the jpg can be deleted. Thanks! <font color="#3fff00">'''UltimateSephiroth'''</font> <sup>([[User:UltimateSephiroth|<font color="#3f7f00">about me</font>]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|<font color="#3f7f00">chat</font>]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]])</sup> 11:53, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
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==Trivia==
==Trivia==
In the Trivia section it mentions all the other pokemon that have no other evolutionary relatives, but herracross is not mentioned, and to my knowledge herracross does not evolve and nothing evolves into him[[User:ColourHidden|ColourHidden]] ([[User talk:ColourHidden|talk]]) 01:15, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
In the Trivia section it mentions all the other pokemon that have no other evolutionary relatives, but herracross is not mentioned, and to my knowledge herracross does not evolve and nothing evolves into him[[User:ColourHidden|ColourHidden]] ([[User talk:ColourHidden|talk]]) 01:15, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
:'''Generation I Pokémon'''. Heracross is a Generation II Pokémon. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 01:47, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
== Aerodactylus ==
I am suprised that no on has jumped on this already, but this year a pterosaur was named after this Pokémon. The animal is called ''Aerodactylus scolopaciceps'' and was published in the online journal PLoS ONE by Vidovic and Martill. Surely this warrants mention in the article, perhaps in the trivia section.
Reference:
Vidovic, S. U.; Martill, D. M. (2014). "''Pterodactylus scolopaciceps'' Meyer, 1860 (Pterosauria, Pterodactyloidea) from the Upper Jurassic of Bavaria, Germany: The Problem of Cryptic Pterosaur Taxa in Early Ontogeny". PLoS ONE 9 (10). {{unsigned|Tomozaurus}}
== Mega Aerodactyl ==
Should it be mentioned that promotional materials, like the X/Y website, suggest that "some scientists" think Mega Aerodactyl is what Aerodactyl looked like before becoming a fossil and subsequently being revived?{{unsigned|Me, Hurray!}}
:Sorry, forgot to sign. [[User:Me, Hurray!|Me, Hurray!]] ([[User talk:Me, Hurray!|talk]]) 18:51, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
::It's already in the biology section.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 03:44, 11 March 2016 (UTC)
==Jurassic Park Influence==
I had previously added some time ago that Aerodactyl's method of revival is likely based on Jurassic Park. For those unfamiliar with the series, the scientists clone dinosaurs by retrieving dinosaur blood from mosquitos preserved in amber. Aerodactyl's method of revival differs from Kabuto and Omanyte, for no reason at all if this reference is not deliberate, and the artwork for the Old Amber in Gen I depicts an insect preserved in it.
The reason the reference was removed was because it was deemed speculation, and the staff member who removed it claimed the Wiki attempts to avoid references to copyrighted works. I find both reasons simply do not hold up to common editing practices, especially since a lot of Origin sections are rife with speculation. Interesting speculation, but speculation. In the meantime we have references to Jackie Chan and Bruce Lee/Japanese martial artists, famous psychics with the Abra line, Ghengis Khan, and the Loch Ness Monster, to say nothing of how many myths, religions and legends Pokemon takes influences from. I don't think it's that much of a stretch to connect the dots and deduce the design reason why Aerodactyl is revived by DNA preserved in amber instead of from a fossil. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] ([[User talk:Drake Clawfang|talk]]) 12:17, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
:We prefer not to have copyrighted references, mostly because they are largely subjective and a lot of them draw from more basic, general influences. Basic influences such as myths, legends, et cetera. Also, outside of the Gen I, you typically won't find names in the origin section due to the big backlash over Kadabra's Japanese name. All of that aside, how Aerodactyl and fossils in general are regenerated sounds more like it belongs on the fossil page than the individual Pokemon pages. [[User:Crystal Talian|<span style="color:#9F00C5">Crystal</span>]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|<span style="color:#FF00FF">Talian</span>]] 13:58, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
::PS. Drake, I removed it, but I'm not a staff member. ;) When you look on a page's History tab, your Watchlist or the Recent Changes, staff members have Poke Ball icons next to their names in gold, silver, bronze, blue and other colors. That's how you can tell staff apart from the rest of us. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 16:17, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
:::Apologies, I thought I had seen one.
:::With regards to the location of the Trivia, I am fine with it being on either page, but think it has a place here as well since it still concerns Aerodactyl's origins. The Old Amber page currently makes note that using blood from mosquitos preserved in amber to clone ancient species is a scientific theory, but this is simply false - the theory exists in the first place because Jurassic Park popularized it, and in the real world is highly unlikely to happen, putting aside if it's even feasible to clone a dinosaur if we ''did'' find a mosquito that just happened to be fossilized in amber after drinking its fill of dinosaur blood. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] ([[User talk:Drake Clawfang|talk]]) 01:40, 13 August 2016 (UTC)
Cloning extinct animals is a scientific theory, and was before Jurassic Park (or even the book its based on) came out. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloning#Cloning_extinct_and_endangered_species The only real connection is specifically the mosquito element. However, I believe some sources, such as the manga, imply that the contents of the amber is not a mosquito, but a piece of Aerodactyl itself. If I remember correctly, the regeneration process in the Pokemon Adventures manga show it actually growing out of the amber. This piece of trivia just isn't something I think is needed on this page . . . as it does have other, older basis. [[User:Crystal Talian|<span style="color:#9F00C5">Crystal</span>]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|<span style="color:#FF00FF">Talian</span>]] 12:18, 13 August 2016 (UTC)

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Edit request

Swap the image in the anime section (Aerodactyl anime.jpg) with DP017.png so the jpg can be deleted. Thanks! UltimateSephiroth (about me · chat · edits) 11:53, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Fossil Images

The images of the fossil Aerodactyl are all the same pose as the Aerodactyl sprite for that game, except for FRLG, in which it takes the pose of the RSE sprite. Notable?--Gou 21:32, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

Dream world

I just befriended a Aerodactyl in the Dream World in 'windswept sky' should it be noted it's catchable in the dream world? ChromeVoid42 18:48, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

Trivia

In the Trivia section it mentions all the other pokemon that have no other evolutionary relatives, but herracross is not mentioned, and to my knowledge herracross does not evolve and nothing evolves into himColourHidden (talk) 01:15, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

Generation I Pokémon. Heracross is a Generation II Pokémon. --Abcboy (talk) 01:47, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

Aerodactylus

I am suprised that no on has jumped on this already, but this year a pterosaur was named after this Pokémon. The animal is called Aerodactylus scolopaciceps and was published in the online journal PLoS ONE by Vidovic and Martill. Surely this warrants mention in the article, perhaps in the trivia section.

Reference: Vidovic, S. U.; Martill, D. M. (2014). "Pterodactylus scolopaciceps Meyer, 1860 (Pterosauria, Pterodactyloidea) from the Upper Jurassic of Bavaria, Germany: The Problem of Cryptic Pterosaur Taxa in Early Ontogeny". PLoS ONE 9 (10). - unsigned comment from Tomozaurus (talkcontribs)

Mega Aerodactyl

Should it be mentioned that promotional materials, like the X/Y website, suggest that "some scientists" think Mega Aerodactyl is what Aerodactyl looked like before becoming a fossil and subsequently being revived?- unsigned comment from Me, Hurray! (talkcontribs)

Sorry, forgot to sign. Me, Hurray! (talk) 18:51, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
It's already in the biology section.--ForceFire 03:44, 11 March 2016 (UTC)

Jurassic Park Influence

I had previously added some time ago that Aerodactyl's method of revival is likely based on Jurassic Park. For those unfamiliar with the series, the scientists clone dinosaurs by retrieving dinosaur blood from mosquitos preserved in amber. Aerodactyl's method of revival differs from Kabuto and Omanyte, for no reason at all if this reference is not deliberate, and the artwork for the Old Amber in Gen I depicts an insect preserved in it.

The reason the reference was removed was because it was deemed speculation, and the staff member who removed it claimed the Wiki attempts to avoid references to copyrighted works. I find both reasons simply do not hold up to common editing practices, especially since a lot of Origin sections are rife with speculation. Interesting speculation, but speculation. In the meantime we have references to Jackie Chan and Bruce Lee/Japanese martial artists, famous psychics with the Abra line, Ghengis Khan, and the Loch Ness Monster, to say nothing of how many myths, religions and legends Pokemon takes influences from. I don't think it's that much of a stretch to connect the dots and deduce the design reason why Aerodactyl is revived by DNA preserved in amber instead of from a fossil. Drake Clawfang (talk) 12:17, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

We prefer not to have copyrighted references, mostly because they are largely subjective and a lot of them draw from more basic, general influences. Basic influences such as myths, legends, et cetera. Also, outside of the Gen I, you typically won't find names in the origin section due to the big backlash over Kadabra's Japanese name. All of that aside, how Aerodactyl and fossils in general are regenerated sounds more like it belongs on the fossil page than the individual Pokemon pages. Crystal Talian 13:58, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
PS. Drake, I removed it, but I'm not a staff member. ;) When you look on a page's History tab, your Watchlist or the Recent Changes, staff members have Poke Ball icons next to their names in gold, silver, bronze, blue and other colors. That's how you can tell staff apart from the rest of us. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 16:17, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
Apologies, I thought I had seen one.
With regards to the location of the Trivia, I am fine with it being on either page, but think it has a place here as well since it still concerns Aerodactyl's origins. The Old Amber page currently makes note that using blood from mosquitos preserved in amber to clone ancient species is a scientific theory, but this is simply false - the theory exists in the first place because Jurassic Park popularized it, and in the real world is highly unlikely to happen, putting aside if it's even feasible to clone a dinosaur if we did find a mosquito that just happened to be fossilized in amber after drinking its fill of dinosaur blood. Drake Clawfang (talk) 01:40, 13 August 2016 (UTC)

Cloning extinct animals is a scientific theory, and was before Jurassic Park (or even the book its based on) came out. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloning#Cloning_extinct_and_endangered_species The only real connection is specifically the mosquito element. However, I believe some sources, such as the manga, imply that the contents of the amber is not a mosquito, but a piece of Aerodactyl itself. If I remember correctly, the regeneration process in the Pokemon Adventures manga show it actually growing out of the amber. This piece of trivia just isn't something I think is needed on this page . . . as it does have other, older basis. Crystal Talian 12:18, 13 August 2016 (UTC)