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{{game|FireRed and LeafGreen|s}}, as remakes of {{game|Red and Green|s}}, implemented redone elements of the original games. Nonetheless, as individual games, they have gone through similar stages of development as all the other [[core series]] games.
|image=Sevii Isle 8 FRLG.png
|type=water
|location_name=Sevii Isle 8
|japanese_name={{tt|8ばん ななしま|hachi-ban Nanashima}}
|translated_name=8th Seven Isle
|location=N/A
|region=Sevii Islands
|generation={{Gen|III}}
}}
'''Sevii Isle 8''' (Japanese: '''{{tt|8ばん ななしま|hachi-ban Nanashima}}''' ''8th Seven Isle'') and '''Sevii Isle 9''' (Japanese: '''{{tt|9ばん ななしま|kyū-ban Nanashima}}''' ''9th Seven Isle'') are [[route]]s which are not accessible through normal gameplay in {{game|FireRed and LeafGreen|s}}. However, unlike other similarly-named unreachable areas, they have actual map data. Their Japanese name is the same as that of the [[Sevii Islands]] but it is instead spelled in hiragana (なな) as opposed to the latter's usage of katakana (ナナ).


No {{OBP|Pokémon|species}} are programmed into the areas by default; it seems as if there are abandoned areas left over from the [[Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen beta|development period]] of the games. No index pointers lead to it by default either; on Sevii Isle 8, the central island on the route has what one would assume to have been cave entrances changed into the side of a rock.
==Pre-release==
[[File:Pre-release FRLG battle Dengeki.jpg|thumb|The pre-release screenshot from Dengeki Online]]
Early sprites for {{p|Bulbasaur}} and {{p|Charmander}} were seen in a pre-release screenshot published by Dengeki Online.<ref>[http://dengekionline.com/data/news/2003/9/13/ddc45c31a5c8d1e2b434336730292ffc.html 『ポケモン赤・緑』がGBAで甦る!『ファイアレッド』『リーフグリーン』発売決定 - 電撃オンライン] ([https://web.archive.org/web/20071012031840/http://www.dengekionline.com/data/news/2003/9/13/ddc45c31a5c8d1e2b434336730292ffc.html earliest archived copy])</ref>


If it is entered when walking on land, it has the same route theme as the later Sevii Islands routes. If the [[Town Map]] is opened at Sevii Isles 6, 7, 8, or 9, it displays the {{player}}'s location as if they were near {{OBP|Four Island|town}}. Additionally, their index numbers are located after [[Three Isle Port]] and [[Resort Gorgeous]], where routes on [[Floe Island]] may have been located.
[[File:Oak intro FRLG.jpg|thumb|Early Oak]]
A different sprite for [[Professor Oak]] that would have been used in the New Game tutorial of the games was seen in a Japanese commercial. This commercial also shows the color-based text distinction for male and female [[NPC]]s that the localizations would adopt, which was not used in the Japanese versions (instead, they use two fonts to make the distinction).


There is also [[List of locations by index number (Generation III)|location name data]] programmed in the games for the following locations:
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* ''Sevii Isle 6'' (Japanese: '''{{tt|6ばん ななしま|roku-ban Nanashima}}''' ''6th Seven Isle'');
* ''Sevii Isle 7'' (Japanese: '''{{tt|7ばん ななしま|nana-ban Nanashima}}''' ''7th Seven Isle'');
* ''Sevii Isle 22'' (Japanese: '''{{tt|22ばん ななしま|ni-jū ni-ban Nanashima}}''' ''22nd Seven Isle'');
* ''Sevii Isle 23'' (Japanese: '''{{tt|23ばん ななしま|ni-jū san-ban Nanashima}}''' ''23rd Seven Isle'');
* ''Sevii Isle 24'' (Japanese: '''{{tt|24ばん ななしま|ni-jū yon-ban Nanashima}}''' ''24th Seven Isle'').
However, they have no map data. Sevii Isles 22, 23, and 24's location name data are located between the [[Tanoby Ruins]] and [[Navel Rock]].


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==Post-release==
{{Infobox location
===Locations===
|image=Sevii Isle 9 FRLG.png
====Sevii Isles====
|type=water
More routes were planned for the [[Sevii Islands]]. However, each one of these routes that are still programmed in on {{game|FireRed and LeafGreen|s}} is called Sevii Isle (Japanese: ななしま ''Nanashima''), suggesting that they are islands instead of routes. Their Japanese name is shared with that of the Sevii Islands, with the only difference being that the Sevii Isles use {{wp|hiragana}} as opposed to the Sevii Islands' usage of {{wp|katakana}}.
|location_name=Sevii Isle 9
|japanese_name={{tt|9ばん ななしま|kyū-ban Nanashima}}
|translated_name=9th Seven Isle
|location=N/A
|region=Sevii Islands
|generation={{Gen|III}}
}}
{{-}}
{{stub|Location}}
{{Sevii Islands}}<br>
{{Project Locations notice}}


[[Category:Glitch and Beta locations]]
Counting from the "first" route in the Sevii Islands, [[Kindle Road]], and going down numbers the Sevii Island routes into the same order reflected by the Sevii Isles, suggesting that the routes of the Sevii Islands were originally intended to be numbered in this way.
[[Category:Sevii Islands]]
[[Category:FireRed and LeafGreen locations]]
[[Category:Islands]]


[[ja:8ばん ななしま]]
The [[List of locations by index number (Generation III)|location name data]] programmed in for the Sevii Isles is:
* Sevii Isle 6 (Japanese: 6ばん ななしま ''Nanashima 6'')
* Sevii Isle 7 (Japanese: 7ばん ななしま ''Nanashima 7'')
* Sevii Isle 8 (Japanese: 8ばん ななしま ''Nanashima 8'')
* Sevii Isle 9 (Japanese: 9ばん ななしま ''Nanashima 9'')
* Sevii Isle 22 (Japanese: 22ばん ななしま ''Nanashima 22'')
* Sevii Isle 23 (Japanese: 23ばん ななしま ''Nanashima 23'')
* Sevii Isle 24 (Japanese: 24ばん ななしま ''Nanashima 24'')
 
Sevii Isles 6 and 7 have map data consisting of only a single tile. Sevii Isle 6 has a tile that can be surfed on, while Sevii Isle 7 has only a tile cannot be walked or surfed on. Sevii Isles 8 and 9 have fully programmed map data, implying that they were scrapped very late during development. The music theme that plays on all four is ナナシマ ''[[Pokémon FireRed & Pokémon LeafGreen: Super Music Collection|Sevii Islands]]'' if the {{player}} enters them by land.
 
If the [[Town Map]] is opened at Sevii Isles 6, 7, 8, or 9, it displays the player's location as if they were near {{OBP|Four Island|town}}. Additionally, their index numbers are located after [[Three Isle Port]] and before [[Resort Gorgeous]]. This may mean that they were originally routes on [[Floe Island]].
 
No [[wild Pokémon]] are programmed into these areas by default. No index pointers lead to them by default either; on Sevii Isle 8, the central island on the route has what one would assume to have been cave entrances changed into the side of a rock.
 
Sevii Isles 22, 23, and 24 have their location name data placed between the [[Tanoby Ruins]] and [[Navel Rock]]. If a map is given the header of Sevii Isle 22, 23, or 24, the player's location will display as if they were near the [[Tanoby Ruins]]. Additionally, the [[#Other locations|unused maps]] with pointers $0033560C, $00336170, and $00337814 in the English version ($0033560C, $00336170, and $00337814 in the Japanese version) are stored immediately after the Tanoby Ruins as well, which may mean that those maps were originally intended for use as Sevii Isles 22, 23, and 24.
 
<gallery>
File:Sevii Isle 8 FRLG.png|Sevii Isle 8
File:Sevii Isle 9 FRLG.png|Sevii Isle 9
File:FRLG Unused Map CL258.png|Possibly Sevii Isle 22
File:FRLG Unused Map CL259.png|Possibly Sevii Isle 23
File:FRLG Unused Map CL260.png|Possibly Sevii Isle 24
File:Sevii Islands Sevii Isle 6 Map.png|Sevii Isle 6 in the [[Town Map]]
File:Sevii Islands Sevii Isle 7 Map.png|Sevii Isle 7 in the [[Town Map]]
File:Sevii Islands Sevii Isle 8 Map.png|Sevii Isle 8 in the [[Town Map]]
File:Sevii Islands Sevii Isle 9 Map.png|Sevii Isle 9 in the [[Town Map]]
File:Sevii Islands Sevii Isle 22 Map.png|Sevii Isle 22 in the [[Town Map]]
File:Sevii Islands Sevii Isle 23 Map.png|Sevii Isle 23 in the [[Town Map]]
File:Sevii Islands Sevii Isle 24 Map.png|Sevii Isle 24 in the [[Town Map]]
</gallery>
 
====Other locations====
The following maps are also unused:
* {{DL|Record mixing|Generation III|Record Corner}}
* a house interior found in the data of {{rt|6|Kanto|Routes 6}}, {{rtn|19|Kanto}}, and {{rtn|23|Kanto}} with no events or warps
* duplicates of [[Celadon]] Hotel and restaurant
* the copy for the main room without boxes blocking access to the second room and the second room itself of the Mystery {{pkmn|Trainer}} house in {{OBP|Seven Island|town}}, [[Quest Island]] (the [[e-Reader]] cards for use with {{DL|Mystery Gift|Generation III|Mystery Gift}} in Japanese versions are for the [[Trainer Tower]])
 
<gallery>
File:Record Corner RSE FRLG.png|Record Corner
File:Unused house interior FRLG.png|Unused house interior
File:Unused Celadon Hotel FRLG duplicate.png|Celadon Hotel
File:Unused Celadon restaurant FRLG duplicate.png|Restaurant in Celadon City
File:Unused Mystery Trainer house unblocked main room FRLG.png|Mystery Trainer house room
</gallery>
 
Leftover copies from {{game|Ruby and Sapphire|s}} of certain [[Hoenn]] locations using broken tilesets are also present in the ROM.
 
<gallery>
File:Unused Hoenn Safari Zone Area 1 FRLG.png|{{safari|Hoenn|Hoenn's Safari Zone}} Area 1
File:Unused Hoenn Safari Zone Area 2 FRLG.png|{{safari|Hoenn|Hoenn's Safari Zone}} Area 2
File:Unused Hoenn Safari Zone Area 4 FRLG.png|{{safari|Hoenn|Hoenn's Safari Zone}} Area 4
File:Unused Hoenn Batttle Tower FRLG.png|{{Gdis|Battle Tower|III|Hoenn's Battle Tower}}
File:Unused SS Tidal hall FRLG.png|[[S.S. Tidal]]'s hall
File:Unused SS Tidal basement FRLG.png|[[S.S. Tidal]]'s basement
File:Unused SS Tidal cabins FRLG.png|[[S.S. Tidal]]'s cabins
File:Unused Hoenn Hall of Fame FRLG.png|Hoenn's Hall of Fame
</gallery>
 
The maps below appear to be related to other maps.
 
{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; background: #{{firered color dark}}; border: 3px solid #{{firered color}}"
|-
! style="background:#{{firered color}}; color:#fff; {{roundytl|5px}}" | Map
! style="background:#{{firered color}}; color:#fff; {{roundytr|5px}}" | Notes
|- style="background: #fff"
! [[File:FRLG Unused Map CL258.png|150px]]
| Japanese map offset: '''$002F96BC'''<br>English map offset: '''$0033560C'''<br/><br>Looks similar to [[#Sevii Isles|Sevii Isle 9]].<br>Possibly [[#Sevii Isles|Sevii Isle 22]]. The exits have the same dimensions as the exits of the map with offset $002FA220 (Japanese ROM) or $00336170 (English ROM).
|- style="background: #fff"
! [[File:FRLG Unused Map CL259.png|500px]]
| Japanese map offset: '''$002FA220'''<br>English map offset: '''$00336170'''<br/><br>Looks similar to [[#Sevii Isles|Sevii Isle 8]].<br>Possibly [[#Sevii Isles|Sevii Isle 23]]. The map has the same dimensions as the [[Tanoby Ruins]].
|- style="background: #fff"
! [[File:FRLG Unused Map CL260.png|150px]]
| Japanese map offset: '''$002FB8C4'''<br>English map offset: '''$00337814'''<br/><br>Looks similar to [[#Sevii Isles|Sevii Isle 9]].<br>Possibly [[#Sevii Isles|Sevii Isle 24]]. The exits have the same dimensions as the exits of the map with offset $002FA220 (Japanese ROM) or $00336170 (English ROM).
|- style="background: #fff"
! [[File:FRLG Unused Map CL261.png|384px]]
| Japanese map offset: '''$002FC428'''<br>English map offset: '''$00338378'''<br/><br>Appears to be an earlier version of the area where [[Trainer Tower]] is located at in [[Quest Island]].
|- style="background: #fff"
 
|}
 
===Items===
[[Key items]] exclusive to {{game|Ruby and Sapphire|s}} (and also {{game|Emerald}}) are found within the internal data, complete with item sprites and [[Bag]] descriptions that differ from those of Ruby and Sapphire, due to their different layout and menu setup, which allows less space for the descriptions. These items are only obtainable by cheating or modification of the saved game data. For the most part, they have no use, though the {{DL|Bicycle|Mach Bike}} and {{DL|Bicycle|Acro Bike}} will act the same as the normal [[Bicycle]] obtainable in FireRed and LeafGreen with the exception of not being recognized by the games for entering {{rt|17|Kanto|Cycling Road}}.
 
[[HM08]], unobtainable except by cheating and containing {{m|Dive}} like in Ruby, Sapphire, and Emerald, can be taught and deleted freely, making its use almost the same as a normal [[TM]].
 
===Music===
Audio track with index number 0x0119 in the ROM plays an unused version of [[Pokémon FireRed & Pokémon LeafGreen: Super Music Collection|''Pokémon Healed'']] which is a chiptune-like rearrangement of the regular theme used by the games, and that also resembles the original theme from {{game|Red and Green|s}}. This may hint at a planned earlier implementation of a feature like [[GB Sounds]].
 
===Sprites===
Unused overworld sprites of {{p|Mew}}, {{p|Raikou}}, {{p|Entei}}, {{p|Suicune}}, {{p|Celebi}}, and {{p|Deoxys}}'s [[List of Pokémon with form differences#Deoxys|Attack and Defense Formes]] have also been discovered in the internal data. Their use is not known but it is possible that they might have been planned for {{pkmn2|event}}s.
 
{| style="margin:auto; text-align:center; font-size:80%; {{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{firered color dark}}; background: #{{firered color}};"
|-
|style="{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{leafgreen color dark}}; background: #{{leafgreen color light}}; width:80px"|
[[File:151 FRLG OD.png]]
|style="{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{leafgreen color dark}}; background: #{{leafgreen color light}}; width:80px"|
[[File:243 III OD.png]]
|style="{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{leafgreen color dark}}; background: #{{leafgreen color light}}; width:80px"|
[[File:244 III OD.png]]
|style="{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{leafgreen color dark}}; background: #{{leafgreen color light}}; width:80px"|
[[File:245 III OD.png‎]]
|style="{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{leafgreen color dark}}; background: #{{leafgreen color light}}; width:80px"|
[[File:251 III OD.png‎]]
|style="{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{leafgreen color dark}}; background: #{{leafgreen color light}}; width:80px"|
[[File:386 FRLG Attack OD.png‎]]
|style="{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{leafgreen color dark}}; background: #{{leafgreen color light}}; width:80px"|
[[File:386 FRLG Defense OD.png‎]]
|-
| Unused Mew overworld sprite
| Unused Raikou overworld sprite
| Unused Entei overworld sprite
| Unused Suicune overworld sprite
| Unused Celebi overworld sprite
| Unused Deoxys Attack Forme overworld sprite
| Unused Deoxys Defense Forme overworld sprite
|}
 
===Weather===
[[File:Three Snowflakes unused FRLG.png|thumb|Three snowflakes falling. Also unused in Ruby, Sapphire, and Emerald.]]
The overworld [[weather]] effects are carried over from {{game|Ruby and Sapphire|s}} but only a few are used. Like its predecessors, {{game|FireRed and LeafGreen|s}} don't use the "three snowflakes falling" effect.
{{clear}}
==References==
{{reflist}}
 
{{beta|FireRed|LeafGreen}}<br>
{{Project Games notice}}
 
[[de:Pokémon Feuerrot und Blattgrün (Vorabversion)]]
[[it:Pokémon Rosso Fuoco e Verde Foglia beta]]
[[ja:9ばん ななしま]]
[[ja:9ばん ななしま]]

Revision as of 01:50, 20 January 2016

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Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen, as remakes of Pokémon Red and Green, implemented redone elements of the original games. Nonetheless, as individual games, they have gone through similar stages of development as all the other core series games.

Pre-release

The pre-release screenshot from Dengeki Online

Early sprites for Bulbasaur and Charmander were seen in a pre-release screenshot published by Dengeki Online.[1]

Early Oak

A different sprite for Professor Oak that would have been used in the New Game tutorial of the games was seen in a Japanese commercial. This commercial also shows the color-based text distinction for male and female NPCs that the localizations would adopt, which was not used in the Japanese versions (instead, they use two fonts to make the distinction).


By Japancommercials4u2


Post-release

Locations

Sevii Isles

More routes were planned for the Sevii Islands. However, each one of these routes that are still programmed in on Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen is called Sevii Isle (Japanese: ななしま Nanashima), suggesting that they are islands instead of routes. Their Japanese name is shared with that of the Sevii Islands, with the only difference being that the Sevii Isles use hiragana as opposed to the Sevii Islands' usage of katakana.

Counting from the "first" route in the Sevii Islands, Kindle Road, and going down numbers the Sevii Island routes into the same order reflected by the Sevii Isles, suggesting that the routes of the Sevii Islands were originally intended to be numbered in this way.

The location name data programmed in for the Sevii Isles is:

  • Sevii Isle 6 (Japanese: 6ばん ななしま Nanashima 6)
  • Sevii Isle 7 (Japanese: 7ばん ななしま Nanashima 7)
  • Sevii Isle 8 (Japanese: 8ばん ななしま Nanashima 8)
  • Sevii Isle 9 (Japanese: 9ばん ななしま Nanashima 9)
  • Sevii Isle 22 (Japanese: 22ばん ななしま Nanashima 22)
  • Sevii Isle 23 (Japanese: 23ばん ななしま Nanashima 23)
  • Sevii Isle 24 (Japanese: 24ばん ななしま Nanashima 24)

Sevii Isles 6 and 7 have map data consisting of only a single tile. Sevii Isle 6 has a tile that can be surfed on, while Sevii Isle 7 has only a tile cannot be walked or surfed on. Sevii Isles 8 and 9 have fully programmed map data, implying that they were scrapped very late during development. The music theme that plays on all four is ナナシマ Sevii Islands if the player enters them by land.

If the Town Map is opened at Sevii Isles 6, 7, 8, or 9, it displays the player's location as if they were near Four Island. Additionally, their index numbers are located after Three Isle Port and before Resort Gorgeous. This may mean that they were originally routes on Floe Island.

No wild Pokémon are programmed into these areas by default. No index pointers lead to them by default either; on Sevii Isle 8, the central island on the route has what one would assume to have been cave entrances changed into the side of a rock.

Sevii Isles 22, 23, and 24 have their location name data placed between the Tanoby Ruins and Navel Rock. If a map is given the header of Sevii Isle 22, 23, or 24, the player's location will display as if they were near the Tanoby Ruins. Additionally, the unused maps with pointers $0033560C, $00336170, and $00337814 in the English version ($0033560C, $00336170, and $00337814 in the Japanese version) are stored immediately after the Tanoby Ruins as well, which may mean that those maps were originally intended for use as Sevii Isles 22, 23, and 24.

Other locations

The following maps are also unused:

Leftover copies from Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire of certain Hoenn locations using broken tilesets are also present in the ROM.

The maps below appear to be related to other maps.

Map Notes
FRLG Unused Map CL258.png Japanese map offset: $002F96BC
English map offset: $0033560C

Looks similar to Sevii Isle 9.
Possibly Sevii Isle 22. The exits have the same dimensions as the exits of the map with offset $002FA220 (Japanese ROM) or $00336170 (English ROM).
FRLG Unused Map CL259.png Japanese map offset: $002FA220
English map offset: $00336170

Looks similar to Sevii Isle 8.
Possibly Sevii Isle 23. The map has the same dimensions as the Tanoby Ruins.
FRLG Unused Map CL260.png Japanese map offset: $002FB8C4
English map offset: $00337814

Looks similar to Sevii Isle 9.
Possibly Sevii Isle 24. The exits have the same dimensions as the exits of the map with offset $002FA220 (Japanese ROM) or $00336170 (English ROM).
FRLG Unused Map CL261.png Japanese map offset: $002FC428
English map offset: $00338378

Appears to be an earlier version of the area where Trainer Tower is located at in Quest Island.

Items

Key items exclusive to Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire (and also Pokémon Emerald) are found within the internal data, complete with item sprites and Bag descriptions that differ from those of Ruby and Sapphire, due to their different layout and menu setup, which allows less space for the descriptions. These items are only obtainable by cheating or modification of the saved game data. For the most part, they have no use, though the Mach Bike and Acro Bike will act the same as the normal Bicycle obtainable in FireRed and LeafGreen with the exception of not being recognized by the games for entering Cycling Road.

HM08, unobtainable except by cheating and containing Dive like in Ruby, Sapphire, and Emerald, can be taught and deleted freely, making its use almost the same as a normal TM.

Music

Audio track with index number 0x0119 in the ROM plays an unused version of Pokémon Healed which is a chiptune-like rearrangement of the regular theme used by the games, and that also resembles the original theme from Pokémon Red and Green. This may hint at a planned earlier implementation of a feature like GB Sounds.

Sprites

Unused overworld sprites of Mew, Raikou, Entei, Suicune, Celebi, and Deoxys's Attack and Defense Formes have also been discovered in the internal data. Their use is not known but it is possible that they might have been planned for events.

151 FRLG OD.png

243 III OD.png

244 III OD.png

245 III OD.png

251 III OD.png

386 FRLG Attack OD.png

386 FRLG Defense OD.png

Unused Mew overworld sprite Unused Raikou overworld sprite Unused Entei overworld sprite Unused Suicune overworld sprite Unused Celebi overworld sprite Unused Deoxys Attack Forme overworld sprite Unused Deoxys Defense Forme overworld sprite

Weather

Three snowflakes falling. Also unused in Ruby, Sapphire, and Emerald.

The overworld weather effects are carried over from Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire but only a few are used. Like its predecessors, Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen don't use the "three snowflakes falling" effect.

References


Beta versions of Pokémon games
Generation I
Red and GreenYellow
Generation II
Gold and Silver (Spaceworld '97 demo) • Crystal
Generation III
Ruby and SapphireFireRed and LeafGreenEmeraldColosseumXD
Generation IV
Diamond and PearlPlatinumHeartGold and SoulSilver
Generation V
Black and WhiteBlack 2 and White 2
Generation VI
X and YOmega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire
Generation VII
Sun and MoonUltra Sun and Ultra Moon
Generation VIII
Sword and Shield
Unreleased
Pokémon Picross


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