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(Undo revision 2319134 by SnorlaxMonster (talk) The point is to illustrate what the Light Ball does, a la #Breeding with Incense)
(→‎Special cases: I cannot overstate how bad an idea it is to try to have m/f columns and then say one of the rows will /actually/ be different female cases... No. Quick fix: double those tables.)
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[[Incense]]-bred Pokémon often have a different or expanded Egg Move list than their evolved forms, due to being classified in the Pokédex as a different species.
[[Incense]]-bred Pokémon often have a different or expanded Egg Move list than their evolved forms, due to being classified in the Pokédex as a different species.


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| style="background:#{{water color light}}" | {{mcolor|Bubble|{{water color dark}}}}
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| colspan=2 style="background:#{{psychic color dark}}" | '''{{mcolor|Amnesia|{{psychic color light}}}}'''
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| style="background:#{{psychic color dark}}" | '''{{mcolor|Amnesia|{{psychic color light}}}}'''
| style="background:#{{fighting color light}}" | {{mcolor|Superpower|{{fighting color dark}}}}
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| style="background:#{{water color dark}}" | '''{{mcolor|Soak|{{water color light}}}}'''
| style="background:#{{water color dark}}" | '''{{mcolor|Soak|{{water color light}}}}'''
| style="background:#{{water color light}}" | {{mcolor|Hydro Pump|{{water color dark}}}}
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| style="background:#{{normal color light}}" | {{mcolor|Helping Hand|{{normal color dark}}}}
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While not an Egg Move, {{p|Pichu}} will know {{m|Volt Tackle}} if either of its parents holds a [[Light Ball]].
While not an Egg Move, {{p|Pichu}} will know {{m|Volt Tackle}} if either of its parents holds a [[Light Ball]].


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===Genderless Pokémon===
===Genderless Pokémon===
Genderless Pokémon cannot inherit any Egg Moves, as they can only be bred with {{p|Ditto}}, and always start with a fixed number of moves. Some of these, such as {{p|Beldum}}, are also incapable of learning moves via TM and HM.
Genderless Pokémon cannot inherit any Egg Moves, as they can only be bred with {{p|Ditto}}, and always start with a fixed number of moves. Some of these, such as {{p|Beldum}}, are also incapable of learning moves via TM and HM.

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An Egg Move[1] is any move that a Pokémon can acquire only from breeding (i.e. moves that the offspring cannot learn via level-up, TM or HM, or Move Tutor) passed down from a Pokémon breeding pair to their offspring. The term is also frequently used for other moves the a Pokémon would not normally possess at the level it hatches.

Before breeding a Pokémon, one must consider whether to use any Egg Moves in that Pokémon's moveset, and breed accordingly. Sometimes, to get a certain combination of moves onto a Pokémon (such as a Spinda with both Wish and Baton Pass) several steps must be taken; this is called chain breeding.

Prior to Generation VI, all methods of learning Egg Moves required the father to know the move prior to breeding, which made certain combinations of moves impossible to possess; for example, Tentacruel can learn both Rapid Spin and Mirror Coat as Egg Moves, but no Pokémon in the Water 3 Egg Group can possess both moves at the same time prior to Generation VI (since Tentacool and Tentacruel now can). (Such a combination is possible in Generation VI, if one parent knows Rapid Spin and the other knows Mirror Coat.)

Egg Move breeding mechanics

Level-up moves

If both parents know one or more moves that their offspring can learn by leveling up, the offspring will inherit that move. For example, Gengar and Mismagius both know Mean Look, so their child, Misdreavus (who learns the move at level 19) will know it when it hatches.

Parents 094Gengar.png
Gengar
429Mismagius.png
Mismagius
Moves Mean Look Magical Leaf
Dark Pulse Mean Look
Lick Lucky Chant
Hex Perish Song
Offspring 200Misdreavus.png
Misdreavus
Moves Growl
Psywave
Mean Look
---

Note that Ditto cannot be used to pass down moves in this manner, because the only move it possesses is Transform.

TM and HM moves

Prior to Generation VI, if the male Pokémon knows a TM or HM move that the offspring can learn, the offspring will inherit that move. This applies whether or not the female Pokémon knows the move (or if Ditto was used in lieu of a female), and regardless of how the father originally learned the move.

In this example, the father, Gliscor, learns X-Scissor by level up, and his child, Joltik, can learn the same move through TM81, so it will know this move upon hatching.

Parents 472Gliscor.png
Gliscor
596Galvantula.png
Galvantula
Moves TM81 X-Scissor Thunder
Fire Fang Bug Buzz
Stone Edge Agility
Screech Gastro Acid
Offspring 595Joltik.png
Joltik
Moves String Shot
Leech Life
Spider Web
TM81 X-Scissor

Prior to Generation V, this was the only way to "reuse" one-of-a-kind TMs, like the ones obtained from Gym Leaders.

In Generation VI, the offspring no longer inherits TM or HM moves for this reason alone; however, some TM or HM moves can be inherited as Egg Moves or due to being a level-up move. For example, Archen cannot inherit Roost (despite being compatible with TM19), but Fletchling can (because Fletchling learns it via level-up), and Vullaby can (because it is a specific Egg Move for Vullaby).

Egg Moves

If either parent (male Pokémon only prior to Generation VI) knows an Egg Move of the baby's species, that child will be born knowing the move (similar to the inheritance of TM moves described above). In Generation VI this includes some, but not all, moves which are available in TM form.

For example, if a male Dragonite that knows Outrage is bred with a female Charizard that knows Flare Blitz, the resulting Charmander will know Outrage and Flare Blitz (only Outrage prior to Generation VI).

Parents 149Dragonite.png
Dragonite
006Charizard.png
Charizard
Moves Outrage Flare Blitz
Thunder Wave Shadow Claw
Surf Dragon Claw
Ice Beam Fly
Offspring 004Charmander.png
Charmander
Moves Scratch
Growl
Outrage
Flare Blitz*

Default moves

In addition to (or in the absence of) any inherited moves, the offspring Pokémon will know at least one default move when hatched, labeled in their level up move list as either "Start" or "--" in lieu of a level number. If this would result in the offspring possessing more than four moves, the inherited moves take priority and the moves on top of their level up move list (with "Start" or "--") will be the ones that are not learned. (If desired, the player may consult a Move Reminder to acquire those moves.)

Special cases

Breeding with Incense

Incense-bred Pokémon often have a different or expanded Egg Move list than their evolved forms, due to being classified in the Pokédex as a different species.

Parents 055Golduck.png
Golduck
184Azumarill.png
Azumarill
Moves Amnesia Superpower
Soak Hydro Pump
Psychic Helping Hand
Psych Up Rollout
Held item Nothing Nothing
Offspring 183Marill.png
Marill
Moves Tackle
Bubble
Amnesia
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Parents 055Golduck.png
Golduck
184Azumarill.png
Azumarill
Moves Amnesia Superpower
Soak Hydro Pump
Psychic Helping Hand
Psych Up Rollout
Held item Nothing Sea IncenseSea Incense
Offspring 298Azurill.png
Azurill
Moves Splash
Bubble
Soak
---

Volt Tackle

While not an Egg Move, Pichu will know Volt Tackle if either of its parents holds a Light Ball.

Parents 303Mawile.png
Mawile
026Raichu.png
Raichu
Moves Crunch Thunderbolt
Iron Head Feint
Fire Fang Nasty Plot
Sweet Scent Agility
held item Nothing Nothing
Offspring 172Pichu.png
Pichu
Moves Thunder Shock
Charm
---
---
Parents 303Mawile.png
Mawile
026Raichu.png
Raichu
Moves Crunch Thunderbolt
Iron Head Feint
Fire Fang Nasty Plot
Sweet Scent Agility
held item Nothing Light BallLight Ball
Offspring 172Pichu.png
Pichu
Moves Thunder Shock
Charm
Volt Tackle
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Genderless Pokémon

Genderless Pokémon cannot inherit any Egg Moves, as they can only be bred with Ditto, and always start with a fixed number of moves. Some of these, such as Beldum, are also incapable of learning moves via TM and HM.

Parents 132Ditto.png
Ditto
474Porygon-Z.png
Porygon-Z
Moves Transform Tri Attack
--- Thunderbolt
--- Ice Beam
--- Shadow Ball
Offspring 137Porygon.png
Porygon
Moves Conversion 2
Tackle
Conversion
Sharpen

See also

References


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