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(→‎In the anime: rewording | it looks nothing like any other bear Pokémon, there's no Psyduck in that ep, and games are irrelevant | spaceman claims are unfounded)
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|epnum=EP020
|epnum=EP020
|epname=The Ghost of Maiden's Peak
|epname=The Ghost of Maiden's Peak
|desc=[[File:009Blastoise.png|right|80px]][[File:003Venusaur.png|right|100px]]In ''[[EP020|The Ghost of Maiden's Peak]]'', a {{p|Gastly}}, who had the ability to create illusions that were solid enough to attack people, created a crossbreed of a {{p|Blastoise}} and a {{p|Venusaur}}, calling it a "Venustoise".}}
|desc=[[File:009Blastoise.png|right|80px]][[File:003Venusaur.png|right|100px]]In ''[[EP020|The Ghost of Maiden's Peak]]'', a {{p|Gastly}} with the ability to create illusions solid enough to attack people created a crossbreed of a {{p|Blastoise}} and a {{p|Venusaur}}, calling it a "Venustoise".}}


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|epnum=EP072
|epnum=EP072
|epname=The Puzzle of Pokémopolis
|epname=The Puzzle of Pokémopolis
|desc=[[File:216Teddiursa.png|right|80px]]The only known information about this creature is from its brief appearance in [[EP072]]. It seems to be a bear, and thus bears similarity to {{DL|Prototype Pokémon and characters|Honōguma}}, {{p|Teddiursa}}, {{p|Ursaring}} and {{p|Cubchoo}}. It has decorative markings covering its body; due to the fact that markings like this are also present on the other Pokémopolis Pokémon featured in the episode, such as {{p|Gengar}} and {{p|Psyduck}}, it is unlikely to have been a normal feature. It is unknown whether it was intended to be in the games, however with its rounded ears, brown colour and cub-like appearance it seems to be very similar to {{p|Teddiursa}}.}}
|desc=[[File:216Teddiursa.png|right|80px]]The only known information about this creature is from its brief appearance in ''[[EP072|The Ancient Puzzle of Pokémopolis]]''. It seems to be a bear with decorative markings covering its body. Since markings like this are also present on the other Pokémopolis Pokémon featured in the episode like {{p|Gengar}} and {{p|Alakazam}}, it is unlikely to have been a normal feature. With its rounded ears, brown color, and bear cub-like appearance, it resembles {{p|Teddiursa}}.}}


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|epnum=EP138
|epnum=EP138
|epname=The Superhero Secret
|epname=The Superhero Secret
|desc=This creature made its sole appearance in [[EP138]]. It seems to be a giant yellow spider, with four red compound eyes, two antennae on its head, and a mouth with four large fangs. It has a thorax with eight long brown legs. Its abdomen is much larger relative to the rest of it body, with two thin black stripes. Its cry has the sound of a scream, not unlike {{p|Victreebel}}'s. The nature of it appearance (in a Gligarman movie) would appear to indicate it may be a fictional monster or Pokémon, and whether it is supposed to be portrayed by a real Pokémon, a mecha, or simply special effects is unclear, though its movements and its cry give it an extremely organic appearance. Due to its appearance rather early into the Johto series of the anime, it is unlikely to have been intended to be in the games, and can be considered to be an anime-exclusive Pokémon.}}
|desc=This creature made its sole appearance in ''[[EP138|The Superhero Secret]]''. It seems to be a giant yellow spider, with four red compound eyes, two antennae on its head, and a mouth with four large fangs. Its thorax has eight long, brown legs. Its abdomen is much larger relative to the rest of it body, with two thin, black stripes. Its cry is a screech, not unlike {{p|Victreebel}}'s. The nature of it appearance (in a Gligarman movie) would appear to indicate it may be a fictional monster or Pokémon, and whether it is supposed to be portrayed by a real Pokémon, a mecha, or simply special effects is unclear, though its movements and cry give it an extremely organic appearance. Due to its rather early appearance in the Johto series of the anime, it is unlikely to have been intended to be in the games, and can be considered to be an anime-exclusive creature.}}


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|epnum=EP163
|epnum=EP163
|epname=Fossil Fools
|epname=Fossil Fools
|desc=[[File:SuperRodNeoGenesis103.jpg|right|100px]]The only representation, albeit in statue form, of the aquatic life that {{p|Kabutops}} is said to have feasted on in most [[Kabutops (Pokémon)#Pokédex entries 2|Pokédex entries]] since {{game|Red and Blue|s}}.
|desc=[[File:SuperRodNeoGenesis103.jpg|right|100px]]This is the only representation, albeit in statue form, of the aquatic life that {{p|Kabutops}} is said to have feasted on in most [[Kabutops (Pokémon)#Pokédex entries 2|Pokédex entries]] since {{game|Red and Blue|s}}.


It bears some similarity to the silhouette on the [[Neo Genesis]] card ''{{TCG ID|Neo Genesis|Super Rod|103}}''.}}
It bears some similarity to the silhouette on the [[Neo Genesis]] card ''{{TCG ID|Neo Genesis|Super Rod|103}}''.}}
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|epname=Fossil Fools
|epname=Fossil Fools
|desc=[[File:343Baltoy.png|right|80px]][[File:344Claydol.png|right|80px]]This clay artifact that looks like a Pokémon appeared in ''[[EP163|Fossil Fools]]'' and then again over 9 and a half years later in ''[[DP181|Bucking the Treasure Trend!]]''. [[Professor Oak]] descibes it as an "ancient Pokémon [[fossil]] [or] artifact".<br>
|desc=[[File:343Baltoy.png|right|80px]][[File:344Claydol.png|right|80px]]This clay artifact that looks like a Pokémon appeared in ''[[EP163|Fossil Fools]]'' and then again over 9 and a half years later in ''[[DP181|Bucking the Treasure Trend!]]''. [[Professor Oak]] descibes it as an "ancient Pokémon [[fossil]] [or] artifact".<br>
It bears similarity to the Clay Doll Pokémon {{p|Baltoy}} and {{p|Claydol}}. Due to this, it may have been based on ''{{wp|shakōkidogū}}'' - a "spaceman" clay figurine from the {{wp|Jōmon period}} of Japanese history.}}
It is similar to the Clay Doll Pokémon {{p|Baltoy}} and {{p|Claydol}} and thus may have been based on ''{{wp|Dogū|shakōki-dogū}}'', clay figurines from the {{wp|Jōmon period}} of Japanese history.}}


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|epname=Spell of the Unown
|epname=Spell of the Unown
|desc={{main|Unown (Pokémon)}}<br>
|desc={{main|Unown (Pokémon)}}<br>
Unreleased Unown. Due to the introduction of two additional Unown forms in [[Generation III]], some fans have speculated that these may have been very early prototypes for new forms of {{p|Unown}}. Some of the letters resemble {{wp|Я}}, {{wp|Ω}}, {{wp|Σ}}, {{wp|б}}, {{wp|Д}}, {{wp|ω}}, {{wp|Π}}, and {{wp|σ}}.  
Unreleased Unown seen on Professor Oak's computer. Due to the introduction of two additional Unown forms in [[Generation III]], some fans have speculated that these may have been very early prototypes for new forms of {{p|Unown}}. Some of the letters resemble {{wp|Я}}, {{wp|Ω}}, {{wp|Σ}}, {{wp|б}}, {{wp|Д}}, {{wp|ω}}, {{wp|Π}}, and {{wp|σ}}.  
<gallery>  
<gallery>  
File:Unreleased Unown 1.png
File:Unreleased Unown 1.png
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|epnum=M03
|epnum=M03
|epname=Spell of the Unown
|epname=Spell of the Unown
|desc=[[File:267Beautifly.png|right|100px]]An unnamed fairy was seen in [[Molly Hale]]'s Book of Legendary Pokémon in ''[[M03|Spell of the Unown]]''. It has some similarity to {{p|Beautifly}}.}}
|desc=[[File:267Beautifly.png|right|100px]]An unnamed fairy was seen in [[Molly Hale]]'s book of Legendary Pokémon in ''[[M03|Spell of the Unown]]''. It has some similarity to {{p|Beautifly}}.}}


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|epnum=M03
|epnum=M03
|epname=Spell of the Unown
|epname=Spell of the Unown
|desc=[[File:338Solrock.png|right|130px]]An unnamed sun was seen in [[Molly Hale]]'s Book of Legendary Pokémon in ''[[M03|Spell of the Unown]]''. It has a slight resemblance to {{p|Solrock}}.}}
|desc=[[File:338Solrock.png|right|130px]]An unnamed sun was seen in [[Molly Hale]]'s book of Legendary Pokémon in ''[[M03|Spell of the Unown]]''. It has a slight resemblance to {{p|Solrock}}.}}


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|epnum=M05
|epnum=M05
|epname=Pokémon Heroes
|epname=Pokémon Heroes
|desc=An evil monster that attacked the city of [[Alto Mare]] was seen in the Japanese version of ''[[M05|Pokémon Heroes]]''. The storybook style segment of the movie, which told the story of the origin of the [[Soul Dew]] and Alto Mare's ancient history, was completely cut from the dub.}}
|desc=An evil monster that attacked the city of [[Alto Mare]] was seen in the Japanese version of ''[[M05|Pokémon Heroes]]''. The storybook-style segment of the movie, which told the story of the origin of the [[Soul Dew]] and Alto Mare's ancient history, was completely cut from the dub.}}


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Revision as of 07:54, 23 January 2014

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There is no solid evidence for or against some parts of this article.

Over the course of the Pokémon series, a number of creatures with traits of Pokémon have appeared. Their status as Pokémon is often disputed.

List of disputed Pokémon

In the games

Egg and Chick
In Pokémon Red and Green there is unused text for extra badges, "Egg" and "Chick", "Bronze" "Silver" and "Gold", and what appears to be the names of unused Trainer classes. These strings are defined in the ROM directly after floor names, which follow on from item names, meaning that the unused text can be forced as glitch items. The text remains untranslated in the localised Red and Blue, and Egg and Chick are kept with the names "たまご" and "ひよこ" respectively. This results in illegible text in the English versions, because the character table for the localised Generation I games is incompatible with Red and Green. It is unknown what "Egg" and "Chick" would have referred to, or whether the concept was a precursor to Pokémon eggs. The text matches early Capsule Monsters artwork in which an unknown creature can be seen fleeing from an egg. The concept may also be reminiscent of the Fresh egg and Chick items in EarthBound, in which the player would keep the Egg until it hatched into a Chick, and then raise the Chicken and eventually sell it. EarthBound was a game that Ape Inc. developed; the company that eventually became Creatures, Inc.
Debut Pokémon Red and Green beta
Shellder's gastropod evolutions
Shellder's gastropod evolutions
199Slowking.png
Main article: Shellder (Pokémon)
Main article: Slowbro (Pokémon)
Main article: Slowking (Pokémon)

In the anime, Shellder is required to evolve Slowpoke into Slowbro or Slowking. Shellder clamps onto a Slowpoke's tail to evolve into Slowbro, or onto its head while wearing the King's Rock to evolve into a Slowking. Even though Shellder changes form drastically when it bonds with Slowpoke to evolve, it is not considered an evolution in and of itself.

Debut Pokémon Red and Green Versions
Baby Kangaskhan
Baby Kangaskhan
115Kangaskhan.png
Main article: Kangaskhan (Pokémon)

Kangaskhan carries around a little purple baby Kangaskhan in their pouch. The baby Kangaskhan lacks the ridges and patches on its mother’s body, and its small fangs are not visible outside of its mouth. Even with the advent of breeding and baby Pokémon, the baby Kangaskhan has yet to be made into a separate Pokémon, and as a result, all Kangaskhan are born with a baby already in its pouch. As part of Kangaskhan's Mega Evolution, however, the baby is capable of fighting alongside its mother.

Debut Pokémon Red and Green Versions
Unnamed dead Pokémon
629Vullaby.png
630Mandibuzz.png
Main article: Vullaby (Pokémon)
Main article: Mandibuzz (Pokémon)

According to interviews with Ken Sugimori in Nintendo Dream, the bones that Vullaby and Mandibuzz wear are those of other Pokemon. However, it is not stated which Pokémon they are from, and as the skeletal systems for the majority of Pokémon have yet to be revealed, it is unknown if they are meant to be the bones of a specific Pokémon. However, the skull that Vullaby wears as a nappy is similar to a human skull, which may indicate that the bones are from a Pokémon in the Human-Like Egg Group.

Debut Pokémon Black and White Versions
Original Reshiram/Zekrom
Original Reshiram/Zekrom
646Kyurem.png
Main article: Reshiram (Pokémon)
Main article: Zekrom (Pokémon)
Main article: Kyurem (Pokémon)
Main article: Tao trio

The origins of Zekrom and Reshiram are told in legends, as they were once a single powerful Dragon Pokémon used by twin heroes in order to create the Unova region. But the brothers each sought something different in life—truth for the older brother and ideals for the younger—and they began to argue, then fight, over who's side was right. The single dragon, in response, split into two Pokémon: Reshiram, who sided with the older twin, and Zekrom, who sided with the younger twin.
It is possible that Kyurem is what is left of the original dragon Pokémon.

Debut Pokémon Black and White Versions
Original Genesect
Original Genesect
649Genesect.png
Main article: Genesect (Pokémon)

While Genesect is a cyborg Pokémon, it did not previously take this form. The modern Genesect was revived by Team Plasma from a fossil of this Pokémon, and modified into its present appearance. According to Genesect's Pokédex entries, it existed over 300 million years ago, and was feared as a powerful hunter. Due to its lack of Team Plasma alterations, it is unlikely that it would have been part Steel-type, nor would it have access to Techno Blast or similar moves.

In Genesect and the Legend Awakened and its manga adaptation, fossilized parts of the original Genesect's body are seen. These fossils bear a great similarity to the bodily structure of the modern Genesect. However, these fossils have not yet been seen anywhere outside of the anime.

Debut Pokémon Black and White Versions
Unnamed TCG creature
Unnamed TCG creature
A silhouette possibly of a Pokémon was discovered while rummaging through coding of the recently launched Trading Card Game Online. This silhouette was discovered in the navigation bar on the game's tutorial page, combined with images of the Unova starter Pokémon. No additional information on the silhouette was contained in the source code of the tutorial's Flash file. According to Serena Robar, a community manager for The Pokémon Company International, it is not a new Pokémon, but is actually just a placeholder image that wasn't removed after the code was decompiled.
Debut Pokémon Trading Card Game Online
Dark Rust
Dark Rust
Dark Rust is a living Wonder Key and the commander of the Rust Army in Pokémon Rumble Blast. It can be fought in the fifth and final chamber of the Team Battle in World Axle - Deepest Level. Although Dark Rust is considered not to be a real Pokémon, it actually uses its own cry.
Debut Pokémon Rumble Blast

In the anime

"Venustoise"
"Venustoise"
009Blastoise.png
003Venusaur.png
In The Ghost of Maiden's Peak, a Gastly with the ability to create illusions solid enough to attack people created a crossbreed of a Blastoise and a Venusaur, calling it a "Venustoise".
Debut The Ghost of Maiden's Peak
Unnamed bear
Unnamed bear
216Teddiursa.png
The only known information about this creature is from its brief appearance in The Ancient Puzzle of Pokémopolis. It seems to be a bear with decorative markings covering its body. Since markings like this are also present on the other Pokémopolis Pokémon featured in the episode like Gengar and Alakazam, it is unlikely to have been a normal feature. With its rounded ears, brown color, and bear cub-like appearance, it resembles Teddiursa.
Debut The Puzzle of Pokémopolis
Unnamed arachnid
Unnamed arachnid
This creature made its sole appearance in The Superhero Secret. It seems to be a giant yellow spider, with four red compound eyes, two antennae on its head, and a mouth with four large fangs. Its thorax has eight long, brown legs. Its abdomen is much larger relative to the rest of it body, with two thin, black stripes. Its cry is a screech, not unlike Victreebel's. The nature of it appearance (in a Gligarman movie) would appear to indicate it may be a fictional monster or Pokémon, and whether it is supposed to be portrayed by a real Pokémon, a mecha, or simply special effects is unclear, though its movements and cry give it an extremely organic appearance. Due to its rather early appearance in the Johto series of the anime, it is unlikely to have been intended to be in the games, and can be considered to be an anime-exclusive creature.
Debut The Superhero Secret
Unnamed fish
Unnamed fish
SuperRodNeoGenesis103.jpg
This is the only representation, albeit in statue form, of the aquatic life that Kabutops is said to have feasted on in most Pokédex entries since Pokémon Red and Blue.

It bears some similarity to the silhouette on the Neo Genesis card Super Rod.

Debut Fossil Fools
Recurring fossil/artifact
Recurring fossil/artifact
343Baltoy.png
344Claydol.png
This clay artifact that looks like a Pokémon appeared in Fossil Fools and then again over 9 and a half years later in Bucking the Treasure Trend!. Professor Oak descibes it as an "ancient Pokémon fossil [or] artifact".

It is similar to the Clay Doll Pokémon Baltoy and Claydol and thus may have been based on shakōki-dogū, clay figurines from the Jōmon period of Japanese history.

Debut Fossil Fools
Unidentified Unown
Unidentified Unown
Main article: Unown (Pokémon)

Unreleased Unown seen on Professor Oak's computer. Due to the introduction of two additional Unown forms in Generation III, some fans have speculated that these may have been very early prototypes for new forms of Unown. Some of the letters resemble Я, Ω, Σ, б, Д, ω, Π, and σ.

  • Unreleased Unown 1.png
  • Unreleased Unown 2.png
  • Unreleased Unown 3.png
  • Unreleased Unown 4.png
Debut Spell of the Unown
Unnamed fairy
Unnamed fairy
267Beautifly.png
An unnamed fairy was seen in Molly Hale's book of Legendary Pokémon in Spell of the Unown. It has some similarity to Beautifly.
Debut Spell of the Unown
Unnamed sun
Unnamed sun
338Solrock.png
An unnamed sun was seen in Molly Hale's book of Legendary Pokémon in Spell of the Unown. It has a slight resemblance to Solrock.
Debut Spell of the Unown
Unnamed monster
Unnamed monster
An evil monster that attacked the city of Alto Mare was seen in the Japanese version of Pokémon Heroes. The storybook-style segment of the movie, which told the story of the origin of the Soul Dew and Alto Mare's ancient history, was completely cut from the dub.
Debut Pokémon Heroes
Mismagius-Rayquaza fusion
Mismagius-Rayquaza fusion
429Mismagius.png
In Malice In Wonderland!, a wild Mismagius created an illusory Rayquaza belonging to the fake Cynthia. When Ash and his friends discovered that it was all just an illusion, it combined itself with its Rayquaza illusion.
Debut Malice In Wonderland!

In the manga

In the Magical Pokémon Journey manga

Marin
Marin
Marin is a Pokémon appearing in the Magical Pokémon Journey manga. It appears only on the title page of The Best Gift Ever. According to commentary by Yumi Tsukirino, Marin was designed by a fan in a "draw Pikachu's friend" contest in Japan.

In the magazine version, in which the cover page is presented in colour, Marin's body is shown to be entirely blue.

Debut The Best Gift Ever

In the Pokémon Adventures manga

Thu-Fi-Zer
Thu-Fi-Zer
Main article: Thu-Fi-Zer

Thu-Fi-Zer (サ・ファイ・ザー Thu-Fi-Zer) was the result of a Team Rocket experiment created by fusing the three legendary birds—Articuno, Zapdos, and Moltres—in the Pokémon Adventures manga.

Debut The Winged Legends
Unnamed Dialga/Palkia statue
Unnamed Dialga/Palkia statue
483Dialga.png
484Palkia.png
Main article: Dialga (Pokémon)
Main article: Palkia (Pokémon)

In the Pokémon Adventures manga the statue in Eterna City is neither Dialga or Palkia but a combination of the two statues. This is a reflection of the statue's appearance in Pokémon Diamond and Pearl and Pokémon Platinum being ambiguously shaped in order to represent a different member of the duo in each game.

Debut Ring Around the Roserade I

In the Pokémon Pocket Monsters manga

Red's unnamed Pokémon
Red's unnamed Pokémon
This unknown Bug-type Pokémon was captured by Red in The Big Battle In The Viridian Forest!!. It was his second Pokémon, after Clefairy. Other than the fact that it is a Bug-type, the only other thing known about this Pokémon is that it's supposedly very weak. It escaped from its Poké Ball in the same chapter.
Debut The Big Battle In The Viridian Forest!!
Three-eyed Persian
Three-eyed Persian
053Persian.png
Main article: Persian (Pokémon)

A Persian with a third eye in the place where its gem would normally be appeared in The Big Battle In The Viridian Forest!!.

Debut The Big Battle In The Viridian Forest!!
Brock's Pokémon collection
Brock's Pokémon collection
Brock is shown with a large Pokémon collection at the Pewter Gym. Many of them are not identifiable as currently known Pokémon. One of them on the top left shelf resembles the unnamed Bug-type Pokémon encountered by Red earlier in the manga.
Debut Bring Down the Powerful Opponent Onix!!

Other

MechaMew2
MechaMew2
Main article: MechaMew2
MechaMew2.png

MechaMew2 is a Robotic Pokémon seen only in Pokémon Live!. It is considered by its creator Giovanni to be the most powerful Pokémon in existence. Giovanni promised Trainers the very rare Diamond Badge to anyone who could defeat it. MechaMew2 is based on Mewtwo, another Pokémon whose creation was ordered by Giovanni. It destroys itself at the end of the show after learning an attack of love, caring, and friendship.
Debut Pokémon Live!

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