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Here's something that's really been bugging me. Where exactly do we draw the line between a notable glitch Pokémon and a non-notable one? Obviously [[MissingNo.]] is notable, and apparently the 20-something other Gen I glitches listed are too... but what about the 120-something others that ''aren't''? Furthermore, should glitch items and attacks deserve pages? Even pages such as [[List of glitch items]]...? [[Image:Ani201QuMS.gif]] '''<code>[[User:Abwayax|abwayax]] ([[User talk:Abwayax|t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Abwayax|c]])</code>''' [[Image:Ani201ExMS.gif]] 03:43, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
 
Here's something that's really been bugging me. Where exactly do we draw the line between a notable glitch Pokémon and a non-notable one? Obviously [[MissingNo.]] is notable, and apparently the 20-something other Gen I glitches listed are too... but what about the 120-something others that ''aren't''? Furthermore, should glitch items and attacks deserve pages? Even pages such as [[List of glitch items]]...? [[Image:Ani201QuMS.gif]] '''<code>[[User:Abwayax|abwayax]] ([[User talk:Abwayax|t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Abwayax|c]])</code>''' [[Image:Ani201ExMS.gif]] 03:43, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
 
:No glitch items, attacks, and Pokémon shouldn't even have pages. They are errors in a game's data and shouldn't even exist.{{:User:Pokemaniac102/Sig}} 03:54, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
 
:No glitch items, attacks, and Pokémon shouldn't even have pages. They are errors in a game's data and shouldn't even exist.{{:User:Pokemaniac102/Sig}} 03:54, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
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::But they ''do'' exist, so why pretend they don't? [[Image:Ani201QuMS.gif]] '''<code>[[User:Abwayax|abwayax]] ([[User talk:Abwayax|t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Abwayax|c]])</code>''' [[Image:Ani201ExMS.gif]] 04:28, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

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I'd say this should be renamed to fit with the other cataloging projects, like MoveDex and Pokédex. Maybe move it to "Project GlitchDex"?

Oh. And, um, make sure that glitches stay separate from normal Pokémon. Reference Pokémon pages, utilize template code, but don't use the templates themselves. Check out MissingNo. for my call on that. User:TTEchidna/sig 20:30, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Actually.. before this sprang up I was thinking of a project GlitchDex. :p Glad to see the glitch pages being worked on, always found them so cool.
..yeah, I think we should move it to Project GlitchDex. No need to type the e nonstop. :p User:TinaTheKirlia/Sig 20:32, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, that does sound better. Missingno. Master 20:35, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Oh snap. Um. Um. The other projects have a capitalized Dex. Um.. I'm moving it again. DX User:TinaTheKirlia/Sig 20:38, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
Goddammit. DD:< It's not letting me move it. God. D< User:TinaTheKirlia/Sig 20:40, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Moved. It's moved. You're welcome.

Glitch Pokémon and Official Pokémon

There is no real difference between the two. In my opinion, the two should be considered equal!

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03:02, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Sprites

Now, I think the first thing we ought to do here is upload sprites of all the glitch Pokémon. Noticeably, several of these articles lack sprites, such as .4, A (uppercase), 3TrainerPoké, and 44Hy. We're also lacking proper sprites of MissingNo.'s other forms (Aerodactyl/Kabutops skeletons+ghost).

Glitch Pokémon and Official Pokémon

There is no real difference between the two. In my opinion, the two should be considered equal!

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14:02, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

Join

Can I join?User:Pokemaniac102/Sig 18:39, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Just sign your name (No date or fancy signatures needed) on the participants section. User:TinaTheKirlia/Sig 18:56, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Can I join too? User:PokéZoe/Sig

Anybody can. fivex

how? I'm glatra i'm new--Glatra 03:06, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Stick your sig in the members section. No permission required. PH34RИван 06:47, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

OK Thanks --Glatra 22:52, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Glitch Infobox?

While adding sprites to the glitch articles I noticed that some of the articles had the standard Pokémon infobox (with the categories removed), while others had none whatsoever. I also noticed that the majority of the infoboxes had "N/A" or "None" in most of the fields while the relevant information was in a list in the article itself. I propose that we make a seperate infobox for glitch Pokémon that includes relevant glitch-specific information (hexadecimal identifier, Pokédex number, equivalents in other versions, whether its Pokédex entry is terminated correctly, etc). Good idea? File:Ani201QuMS.gif abwayax (t/c) File:Ani201ExMS.gif 20:26, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Seperate infobox, hm? I think it's a good idea.. like, instead of the regular stuff, it'd have the corresponding Mew glitch Special hex and stuff. User:TinaTheKirlia/Sig 20:28, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
I'm in agreement here. An infobox for the glitch Pokémon is a good idea.
Glitch Pokémon and Official Pokémon

There is no real difference between the two. In my opinion, the two should be considered equal!

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02:32, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

I made the Glitch Pokémon Infobox! -- Glitch and Official Pokémon. There is no real difference between the two. In my opinion, the two should be considered equal!-- quoted by Missingno. Master 20:26, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

I changed around the infobox slightly. Got rid of the "height" and "weight" and "species" stuff (that stuff is pretty much meaningless in terms of glitches) and replaced it with Hex ID and Version. When should we start placing this thing on the glitch articles? File:Ani201QuMS.gif abwayax (t/c) File:Ani201ExMS.gif 20:32, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

I already put it on the MissingNo. article to start with. -- Glitch and Official Pokémon. There is no real difference between the two. In my opinion, the two should be considered equal!-- quoted by Missingno. Master 20:59, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

As you may have noticed I made separate type templates for the glitch infobox. The reason being is that the standard Pokémon type templates add the page to type categories, and consensus seems to dictate that we keep the glitch Pokémon seperate from the officially recognized ones (That and many of the glitch Pokémon have glitch types, which don't have real categories (ex. there is no Category: Pokémaniac-type Pokémon nor will there likely be one in future). File:Ani201QuMS.gif abwayax (t/c) File:Ani201ExMS.gif 23:04, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Categorization

Okay. I've looked over a few articles and from what I can tell, the consensus within Bulbapedia is to not treat the glitch Pokémon as "real Pokémon". On the MissingNo. article there was actually an edit war with some people attempting to classify it as a "Pokémon", but from what I can tell the clear consensus is that MissingNo is not a "Pokémon". To that end, I modified the Template:GlitchPkmnInfobox so that it doesn't put the page in any Pokémon categories. However, recently MissingNo. was put into Category:Normal-type Pokémon again. Should it be acceptable to include glitches in the type categories? I'm only asking because I don't want to revert that edit and inadvertently start another edit war. File:Ani201QuMS.gif abwayax (t/c) File:Ani201ExMS.gif 01:57, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Eh, I think we should.. if it happens to share a normal type, however. So no Category:Bird-type Pokémon. User:TinaTheKirlia/Sig 02:01, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Notability criteria

Here's something that's really been bugging me. Where exactly do we draw the line between a notable glitch Pokémon and a non-notable one? Obviously MissingNo. is notable, and apparently the 20-something other Gen I glitches listed are too... but what about the 120-something others that aren't? Furthermore, should glitch items and attacks deserve pages? Even pages such as List of glitch items...? File:Ani201QuMS.gif abwayax (t/c) File:Ani201ExMS.gif 03:43, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

No glitch items, attacks, and Pokémon shouldn't even have pages. They are errors in a game's data and shouldn't even exist.User:Pokemaniac102/Sig 03:54, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
But they do exist, so why pretend they don't? File:Ani201QuMS.gif abwayax (t/c) File:Ani201ExMS.gif 04:28, 18 January 2008 (UTC)