Bulbapedia talk:Editor's Hub/Archive 1

Protection

Shouldn't this be protected to prevent vandelism much like the main page is? Truth seeker 4449 13:04, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

It is protected.--Supermon 20:24, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

I know it is now, it wasn't when I post the message above. And I stayed up to date on status of the page and thus noticed when it was semi-protected then fully protected. Truth seeker 4449 20:30, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

Tentacool

I need help changing one of the type effects of Tentacool over to somewhere else. I am a new member so I don't know how to do all these changes so if someone can help that will be nice.

what needs to be changed is electric needs to be taken out of tentacool's weakness column and put in the regular effect column. if someone can tell me how to do that then that will be nice thanks again. (Roadmaster84 23:29, 21 December 2011 (UTC))

Tentacool is a Water/Poison Pokémon. Water is weak to Electric and Poison is neutral to Electric. Therefore Tentacool is weak to Electric moves and the existing chart is correct. Werdnae (talk) 23:38, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

Page Like "Incomplete" for "Bad Picture"?

Is there a section for Bad Picture just like there is for Incomplete? I can't find it anywhere! --Wildgoosespeeder 00:19, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

You mean like this? ^★Jo the Marten^★ ಠ_ಠ ♥ 00:23, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

Cool! Where did you find that link? If it is really hidden and out of the way, I think it should be in the box with the Machop. --Wildgoosespeeder 00:39, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

I don't know what machop you're talking about, but it's in the categories on any page that has that template. In particular, I found it here. ^★Jo the Marten^★ ಠ_ಠ ♥ 00:56, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

The Machop on the Editor's Hub page! There are three links to get you started improving articles. --Wildgoosespeeder 01:06, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

Oh, haha, I see. I rarely look at the Editor Hub. Alright, I added it. ^★Jo the Marten^★ ಠ_ಠ ♥ 01:11, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

Recycle restoring Air Balloon

The page Recycle doesn't mention anything about being able/unable to restore a popped Air Balloon. Shouldn't that be changed? PC-Reviver 15:59, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

No, because a popped Air Balloon is an item that's been consumed, and thus falls under the category of consumed items. - signed comment from q~Bisumito is Snazzy~p (talk • contribs) 20:31, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

how do i get permission to make pages

hi im new and wondering how to make pages Xspeedx 18:05, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

You need to make a (top secret) number of edits to the mainspace (i.e. articles) and have had your account for a short (also top secret) length of time. This is done so that you get a chance +to learn our rules and styles before trying to build a page on your own. Werdnae (talk) 03:54, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

I need advice

Hi, I saw the Anville town Article and saw the section at the top said you can get to anvillle town using the Anville town line in the battle subway. I was thinking that changing it to the Brown line because it's colour is brown? I'm not sure if i should but please tell me if i'm right! SkyAltaria1 14:16, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

Perhaps it would be more precise to change it the brown line instead of just saying "Anville line". I don't think there's any harm in changing it. --Pokemaster 97 15:38, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

Ok Thanks :) SkyAltaria1 06:49, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

Hey, I need advice too. I know of a glitch that is fairly well-known, yet this wiki doesn't have a page for it. I notice that most glitches have their own pages as well as appearing on the List of Glitches section of the Glitch page. However, I don't have permission to make pages yet. Should I just add this glitch to the List of Glitches and hope someone else makes a page for it, or should I request that a page for it be made, or what? HappyGasGames (talk) 17:06, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

If you have a question on a topic that's glitch related, you should talk to SnorlaxMonster. He's the leader of Project:Glichdex and would probably have the answers you're looking for. --Pokemaster 97 17:10, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Romanization

I'm not entirely fond of how Bulbapedia handles their Japanese names for things, primarily how we use the trademarked name and completely ignore the rōmaji. Yes, I think it's important to have the trademarked Japanese names, but I think it's also equally important to have the bare rōmaji, too. I think it would be effective to use the {{tt}} template around the Japanese text itself to show the rōmaji alongside the trademarked name. For example, it would look like this: ラルトス Ralts or カメックス Kamex.
Would anyone object to me going around and doing this? Mitsuru 23:13, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

List of Japanese Pokémon names. This does that. I personally do not like the idea for esthetic reasons. --ケンジの ガール 23:19, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

Alright, but it applies to more than just Pokémon themselves. Many pages unrelated to Pokémon suffer the same (Snag Machine, N, etc.). And I disagree; I don't think it's too much of an eyesore, and it's hardly invasive. Mitsuru 03:06, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

BW2 Soundtrack

Do we need a page for the BW2 soundtrack "Pokémon Black 2 & White 2 Super Music Complete"? I have the CD here and I figured I might as well contribute. Me, Hurray! (talk) 20:00, 3 August 2012 (UTC) Nobody? No. Okay, you can remove it if you don't like it. It was fun to do anyway. Me, Hurray! (talk) 00:02, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

Bulbawiki Festive Frontier?

"As outlined on Bulbagarden forums, Bulbapedia is done hosting its second annual Christmas Improvement Drive. The Festive Frontier challenge is now over."

Wasn't the Festive Frontier challenge from last year or was it a few months ago? (Just curious since it is currently up on the page.) --Super goku (talk) 02:34, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

Update?

Staff of PokéPark 2 is already made. Don't you think we should take it off the Needed articles section? ☆ヨッシ ー の世界☆ 00:17, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

Edits

How many Edits do I need to do/have to add New Articles? Lskitto (talk) 04:52, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

It's an secret amount of edits and a secret amount of time that is only known to staff. Keep editing, and you'll eventually be able to start articles. --It's Funktastic~!_{話してください} 04:54, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

Screenshots

How do you get a screenshot of an entire city/route/area in the video games? 152105 (talk) 20:14, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

Linking Pages

When I put in a link to another page it always comes out as Template:whatever-the-article-name-is and I have no idea why.Uglycats101 (talk) 13:26, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

It would be because you are using {{ and }} to link instead of [[ and ]] one links to templates the other links to pages. --Spriteit (talk) 13:41, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

oh thanks so much, it works!!! but how do I get those brackets you used they're not on my keyboard or in the character palette at the bottom of the screen I'm currently using copy and paste to get them in. Uglycats101 (talk) 13:30, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

What keyboard layout do you have? It would be incredibly unusual for any keyboard to not have those brackets. On a standard QWERTY keyboard, they're immediately to the right of the P key, such that typing this whole row yields QWERTYUIOP[]\. --SnorlaxMonster 17:14, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

Kato and Kiko

I need help adding a trivia sentence for Kato and Kiko. I don't want to try and add a new trivia sentence and end up messing up the whole thing for their trivia. Either someone help me or ill just tell you what I want to post so you can do it yourselves:

For Kato's trivia: Kato's hairstyle resembles the horn of his pokemon, Heracross.

For Kiko's trivia: Kiko's hairstyle resembles the wings of her pokemon, Beautifly.

If you can tell me how to post it that would be excellent or if you want to post it yourself that would be just as excellent. If you end up doing it yourself don't add both on one just kato's on Kato's page and Kiko's on Kiko@'s page. I don't mind either way as long as it manages to get posted and i have some credit for it. Thanks. (RioluMaster1123 (talk) 01:01, 8 June 2013 (UTC))

Message of the Day

There are no more featured MotDs. That part of this page should be replaced. Spyspotter says… Edit the mainspace, kids! 03:08, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

I don't see any "Message of the Day" on this page. Unless you mean the Message from the Editor, which should stay and will be updated when there is new information to put there. --SnorlaxMonster 05:28, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

I mean the featured content. - unsigned comment from Spyspotter (talk • contribs) 01:00, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Protection of Pokemon X/Y related articles

I've been noticing that the admins on this site have been protecting almost all Pokemon X/Y related articles and not allowing normal users due to "Speculation Crackdown" till after October 12. It's kind of harsh because not all normal users registered users on this site are speculators. Some really want to help this site gather information from official sources as the game's release draws closer. Blueknightex (talk) 09:41, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

While not all registered users will add speculation, it only takes a handful of users to wreak massive havoc across a wide spread of pages. A lot of XY articles were locked as a reaction to speculation, not as a proactive measure. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 17:48, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

Speculation would not be good for bulbapedia's reputation, and I'm sure no-one wants that! Like Blueknightex said, it only takes a handful of people to wreak havoc with speculations and rumours. --KyuremDialga101 (talk) 01:11, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

Article on Ash's Charizard does not need editing

I noticed that the article Charizard was in need of an English voice actor. However, after some heavy research, I found out that the voice actor is the same as the Japanese one. What do I do now? Please help, I just joined! --KyuremDialga101 (talk) 01:08, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

It could refer to Charmander and Charmeleon. They showed up in flashbacks during BW and, while I didn't watch the episode myself, it could be they spoke during the flashbacks, and had different voice actors. ^★Jo the Marten^★ ಠ_ಠ ♥ 01:11, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

Hi. The voice actor data for Charmander and Charmeleon was present, so it was not referring to them. Currently, the page is showing that for Charizard, the Japanese voice actor did both the Japanese AND the English roles. However, Bulbapedia has named the data as incomplete. Is there anyone I could take my concerns to? Thanks. --KyuremDialga101 (talk) 01:13, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

Charmander and Charmeleon's voice actors on the article are the 4kids actors. During the Advanced Generation the dub was passed on to DuArt. For example, look at Ash's Bulbasaur. See how it says Tara Jayne for EP010-AG133 then Michele Knotz as current? That's because of the voice actor swap. Since Charmander and Charmeleon appeared in the Best Wishes series, they would have been given new voice actors. Those are the ones that are missing. If you want, you can leave a message on Kenji-girl's talk page. She's been busy lately so it might take her a while to respond. ^★Jo the Marten^★ ಠ_ಠ ♥ 01:26, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

Regarding Volcanion, Hoopa and Diancie

Should we create pages for them yet? We know they are real, and this sort of thing has been done with other event pokemon like Arceus and Genesect. I have pictures which have been confirmed real that we could put in the articles too.--BigBadBatter (talk) 01:50, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

We do not know they are real. All we know is that other fansites have circulated rumors about them. We do not take info from other fansites. We are an encyclopedia, not a rumor mill. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 02:16, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

I think we know that they're names of potential Pokémon, due to GTS stuff, but that doesn't seem like enough for a page. --Wynd Fox 02:36, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

You can find them in game, GBA Temps has a wild modifier code for them. And the fact that there is already in-game proof (the GTS tests) kind of confirms it's all real. Remember that stuff had been added about previous event 'mons without knowing much about them too.--BigBadBatter (talk) 05:03, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

For those of us who don't know, can you explain what GBA Temps is? And how wild modifier codes work? --Wynd Fox 05:27, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

GBA Temps is a website that I imagine distributes cheat codes. Wild modifiers work by simply changeing the pokemon that normally appear in an area to the one specified in the cheat code, as it temporarily alters the game's code. Say, if you put an identifier of 001 in there you would find bulbasaur for example. EDIT: Wait, wrong place, it ws a different guy who made the modifier, GBA Temps made a .pkx editor that could also be used to get the pokemon in game, if anyone wants to test and see, I have a link [1]/--BigBadBatter (talk) 05:40, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

Serebii has just confirmed the existence of Diancie, Hoopa, Volcanion, Mega Latios and Mega Latias as possible event Pokémon with pictures associated. --Wolfy Harfleur 76700 (talk) 10:35, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

Joe literally wrote in his news story on serebii "Do note, these are still unconfirmed." ^Maverick _Nate 14:41, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

(resetting indent) It seems people have forgotten that this site is, above all else, an encyclopedia. I've seen some wikis have speculative articles and then have some tag at the top of the page saying "This is unconfirmed, yada yada yada." That's extremely unprofessional, and it makes way for a truck load of spam articles under the guise of being "unconfirmed". A good wiki, Bulbapedia included, uses the agenda of official confirmation being absolutely crucial. As much as it may seem, at the current moment, that these three Pokémon and the Mega-Eons are as real as real can get, leaked information is the exact opposite of confirmed information. Even Serebii's no fool. He's not going around asserting that everything he finds is fact. As Nate even said, the words "Do note, these are still unconfirmed" are used on his site. Besides, it's god-honestly better to not have the information until it's confirmed than to have guesswork that turns out to be wrong. Schiffy (Speak to me|What I've done) 15:29, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

correct me if I am wrong but didn't bulbapedia treat meloetta, keldeo and genesect as real pokemon before they were officialy confirmed? It doesn't seem any different here. 0danmaster0 (talk) 15:46, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

The problem is that we could still access the game data to be able to confirm it. We cannot access the game data this time around, which is why we still do not have a lot of images of the Generation VI stuff. Unless we can find data on the PGL to confirm this, we have to treat it like false info until we have proof it is true. --Super goku (talk) 17:15, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

In which you can use the hacks to get the pokemon to put into the PGL to prove they're real.--BigBadBatter (talk) 21:28, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

You cannot put Pokémon into the PGL, that was only Dream World, which only works for Generation V games. Not to mention that the Pokémon shown could be dummied out Pokémon left on the cart. We will need to wait for proof, whether it is from files on the PGL or some info from Nintendo. --Super goku (talk) 21:44, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

How would one get this info from the PGL? Like people got all the DW art and stuff didn't they? And also I'm quite sure they wouldn't leave dummy 'mons in the game, they would have been replaced with Bad Eggs.--BigBadBatter (talk) 21:48, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

Files. Every website that uses pictures needs to reference the picture in the website. Thus, most pictures are hosted in the same server as the website itself. Basically, if the images are added to the server, we just need to peek into the server's files and see what is there, which is how we got the other files. As for the other part, why are there two Vivillon patterns in the game that no one has obtained? We don't know what GF has done or will do with them. They could be available or they could be dummied out, though they still seem to exist for the moment as dummied out data. --Super goku (talk) 23:44, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

Hmmm, perhaps they don't plan on adding the picture files until they're officially revealed. After all, I don't think they added the picture files into the PGL for Keldeo, Meloetta and Genesect until they were revealed, did they?--BigBadBatter (talk) 00:49, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

(resetting indent) Back on the "dummied out content" thing, yes, there's plenty of dummied out content left in the game's code among all of the older games. Bulbapedia has pages specifically on said content. I can't say I'd be too surprised to find out that some species ended up in this genre. Schiffy (Speak to me|What I've done) 02:31, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

On the topic of PGL files, there are two placeholder Vivillon patterns (which are the same as the default pattern), indicating that there are likely to be 2 more Vivillon patterns (matching the leak). The Mythical Pokémon do not appear on the PGL currently. Mega Evolutions all have placeholder artworks (it's just a copy of the Pokémon's standard artwork), and currently there is no placeholder for Mega Latios or Latias. Chances are things that aren't currently there will be added at a later time. --SnorlaxMonster 12:10, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

While the chance is there that they could be fake (this page even says so), the fact that this person was able to cause the three legendaries to appear in one of the early Routes pretty much confirms they are real. If those are Photoshopped images, they're pretty good. Additionally, seeing them on the GTS and not filtered out as gibberish also confirms that they are real. The person writing the linked blog, as well, noted that he tried to encounter Pokémon #722 (meaning these came from 719-721) and the result was a Bad Egg, meaning there is nothing programmed after 721 and that is the end of the current Pokédex.

We ought to acknowledge this information. People have tested and confirmed that the data is there. Serebii even briefly had pages for the trio (since taken down, someone put up a screenshot of the three screengrabs as an image). Nintendo just hasn't released the info because they want to leave something for future announcements and events. Since they're already in the game, other than patching to get rid of them, Nintendo can't do much now to change it (and then what will they use for later games, and who says we have to use the patch? I mean, they can't get rid of this data in the games now!). Therefore, they exist, they just haven't been announced. Pages ought to be created even if they are tagged as unconfirmed Pokémon. CycloneGU (talk) 18:32, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

If you had been paying attention, no one is immediately saying they're faked or photoshopped. But what we are saying is they may very well be dummied out content. And again, as far as a wiki is concerned, if information is not 100% confirmed, it might as well be 100% fake. Bulbapedia has a reputation to keep, and if things that end up being utter bull get articles only for us to find out the truth later, how will that make the site look? And even if they are really there, they can indeed be patched out. That's what patches do. If someone who got, say, one of these "Volcanions" ends up losing data and having their save corrupted because it was patched out, well then that's their own fault. Schiffy (Speak to me|What I've done) 19:03, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

Yes, I'm paying attention. Here's the thing: if they are dummied out, that makes them notable just for that and they deserve to be recognized as deleted Pokémon. Except perhaps for MissingNo, this would be the first case of this, no? That's notable, and what would be their page as real Pokémon can then be redirected to an article on the deleted trio. CycloneGU (talk) 20:04, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

Just thought I'd also mention that if they were dummied out, it is highly unlikely they'd leave all the following data in and have it make sense- Pokedex Entries, Typing, Movesets, Graphical Data, Base Stats. Just a thought--BigBadBatter (talk) 01:56, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

Exactly. There are way too many dots to connect here that there's no way this is fake. I'm 99% certain at this point that all three of them are the Keldeo, Meloetta, and Genesect of this generation and we will have all three released by the time of either Hoenn remakes or Z (whichever is first). I'd gamble on it if I could. CycloneGU (talk) 02:18, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

(edit conflict) We don't know any of that (except the graphical data) even exists. All we have are a single screenshot of each of them. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 02:19, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

What do you want him to do, take a video of him encountering and catching them, then showing off the Dex entries? CycloneGU (talk) 02:45, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

There's another test we could use to see if this is genuine, the guy who found them also managed to get screenshots of pixie plate arceus and Mew in the game, if the sprites match when Transporter is out we'll know that he truly hacked the game. pics on this twitter: https://twitter.com/PokmonGlobalNew Jmvb (talk) 11:34, 3 November 2013 (UTC)