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<p>Poppy Appletree: </p>
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<div>{{User:Force Fire/Archive}}<br />
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== Sun2020 ==<br />
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Hey! I have a strong reason to believe {{user|Sun2020}} is yet ''another'' sockpuppet of {{user|Kittystyler}}. Sun2020's writing style for [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Ash_Ketchum&type=revision&diff=3088750&oldid=3088687 this edit] to [[Ash Ketchum]] is extremely reminiscent of Kittystyler's old writing style for [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Ash_Ketchum&type=revision&diff=2955518&oldid=2955392 this edit] to the same article. Do you think you can look into it? Thank you! [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 21:20, 5 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
:Why does Kittystyler refuse to give up? I find these repeated comebacks very tiresome. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 21:25, 5 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
::Because they're a troll, especially considering they refused to even acknowledge the existence of their original talk page when they were still active here. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 21:28, 5 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::They were indeed Kittystyler and have been dealt with.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 05:46, 6 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
::::Okay, thanks! :D [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 07:09, 6 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Archive 10 ==<br />
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I removed the link to an image that doesn't exist on the Archives in the topic I wrote. [[Special:Diff/3090821]] --<span lang="ja">[[User:TheICTLiker4|<span style="color:#333">'''キー'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/TheICTLiker4|<span style="color:#f30">'''A'''</span>]][[User talk:TheICTLiker4|<span style="color:#bbb">'''コン'''</span>]]</span> 10:08, 8 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Template approval ==<br />
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If you have the time, please let me know if {{red link|User:Daniel Carrero/Puzzle}} needs anything to be approved (any change in contents, layout, etc.). If/when possible, I'd like it to be moved back to the template namespace. I also asked about aproving it on Discord, though I'm still waiting to see if anyone will reply there.<br />
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I created that template and used it in these pages:<br />
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* [[List of puzzles (PPL)]]<br />
* [[List of puzzles (PPC)]]<br />
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--[[User:Daniel Carrero|Daniel Carrero]] ([[User talk:Daniel Carrero|talk]]) 16:30, 8 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
:I think asking staff who has more knowledge on the side games would give a better opinion.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 05:57, 10 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Pseudo-legendary ==<br />
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Hi Force Fire, thanks for adding Dragapult to the [[Pseudo-legendary Pokémon]] article (which I requested on Discord since I don't have edit access). The box for Dragapult is bigger than the other boxes in the first section, though. [[User:Qzekrom|Qzekrom]] ([[User talk:Qzekrom|talk]]) 18:55, 9 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
:You're welcome. I'm aware that the Dragapult image is large, I did try to resize it to make it smaller (as to make the template even with the others) but felt that it made the image look too small and unidentifiable, so I just left it as is.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 05:57, 10 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
:: Is there a way make it smaller for the section that shows all [[Pseudo-legendary Pokémon]] together? It jsut getting clutter up and hard to see them all.--[[User:Jacob9594|Jacob Kogan]] ([[User talk:Jacob9594|talk]]) 05:59, 10 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::That's the section I was talking about. Felt that making the Dragapult image smaller made the image unidentifiable.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 06:05, 10 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Two things ==<br />
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# Why did you revert me at those pages about types?<br />
# I'm still waiting for approval of these pages:<br />
#* [[User:TheICTLiker4/E O]]<br />
#* [[User:TheICTLiker4/Template:NewMove]]<br />
Please respond quickly. --<span lang="ja">[[User:TheICTLiker4|<span style="color:#333">'''TheI'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/TheICTLiker4|<span style="color:#f30">'''CTLi'''</span>]][[User talk:TheICTLiker4|<span style="color:#bbb">'''ker4'''</span>]]</span> 08:30, 12 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
:#Mass updates involving multiple article must be approved by a staff member. You can't just do as you please.<br />
:#None of those are up to standards, especially the latter.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 09:09, 12 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
::#Okay. I will follow this rule, even while moving pages.<br />
::#Both pages are marked for mainspacing, and they're awaiting approval. “[...] especially the latter” — you are wrong, as some content is hidden by &lt;includeonly&gt; because if not, the page would be in categories reserved for move pages, and [[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] has fixed that. --<span lang="ja">[[User:TheICTLiker4|<span style="color:#333">'''TheI'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/TheICTLiker4|<span style="color:#f30">'''CTLi'''</span>]][[User talk:TheICTLiker4|<span style="color:#bbb">'''ker4'''</span>]]</span> 18:58, 13 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::Granted I didn't really look at the coding and just saw the template as is and thought that it looked incomplete and far too different to that actual "NewX" templates that we have.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 01:48, 14 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
::::But what about the first page I listed in this subject ([[User:TheICTLiker4/E O]])? --<span lang="ja">[[User:TheICTLiker4|<span style="color:#333">'''TheI'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/TheICTLiker4|<span style="color:#f30">'''CTLi'''</span>]][[User talk:TheICTLiker4|<span style="color:#bbb">'''ker4'''</span>]]</span> 20:00, 14 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== What's the point? ==<br />
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Why did you revert my episode title changes? SM003 is CLEARLY a pun, that's not difficult to see at all. We've added pun titles before. So why not now? And the others were put in the correct order of the Japanese title (not the translations of them) and added with words that needed to be added, like "region", when region is clearly in the title and has been included in other episode titles that had the Japanese characters for the word "region" in them before? Why stop now? We don't NEED to rely off translations from people over at Serebii. Other people CAN add titles as well. If there's a problem with them, at the very least explain why, I'm so annoyed with you being angry at me. [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]]) 09:43, 12 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
:And I've done nothing wrong to deserve this from just a single admin. [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]]) 09:45, 12 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
::I rolled back your edit on the episode list article based off your SM003 edit. The other changes, while questionable, were fine. As for SM003, as we discussed before, not everything is a pun. "Fushigi da ne" can be an actual phrase. Just because "fushigi" is in the title, doesn't automatically make it a pun.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 10:01, 12 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Template edit request ==<br />
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Given the fact that Go is on a pretty constant catching spree, should the category for episodes in which a main character obtains a new Pokémon be included in the new episode template? Kinda like how the category for Mythical Pokémon appearances was included in it while Ash had Meltan/Melmetal in his active team? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 15:24, 12 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
:I've brought up the suggestion with the other staff members.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 16:43, 12 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
::Having the category there before the episode airs is a bit assumptious, especially if said episode isn't an episode where Go catches anything. So the category is not going in the template.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 06:23, 13 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Noise Reduction on Gen 8 Pokemon images ==<br />
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I've done some easy experimenting with noise reduction on the grainy Pokemon images in photoshop, with much improved quality. Was wondering if there was any reason this hasn't been done already. [[User:Lanthanum|Lanthanum]] ([[User talk:Lanthanum|talk]]) 05:42, 15 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Pichu Posse members ==<br />
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Dear ForceFire,<br />
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I've been in the process of reviewing the appearances of the Pichu Brothers and their associates in the anime. However I noticed there were some Pokémon listed on the Pichu Brothers page as members of the Posse who wouldn't fit the description of being a "friend" and are simply recurring wild Pokémon such as Snorlax, Houndour and the Squirtle Squad. Feraligatr and Murkrow other recurring wild Pokémon, that are yet to have a mention anywhere, however their appearances are brief like the others. Should they have separate sections on the [[Recurring wild Pokémon in the anime]] page or should all the recurring Big Town Pokémon be listed on one page with the subsections "Pichu Brothers", "Pichu Posse" and "Other Big Town Pokémon"? Regards, [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 13:41, 16 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Why did you undo my Wedgehurst edit? ==<br />
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[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Wedgehurst&diff=3097122&oldid=3097003 You didn't even leave a reason why.]] [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 17:05, 16 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
:It's not notable. The other trainers "not noticing the Slowpoke" isn't notable either. The nurse knowing it isn't suppose to be some in-universe thing. Just like the bulletin boards in Black and White announcing the Pokemon outbreaks, it's not meant to be an in-universe thing where everyone in that universe knows about the outbreak (I don't recall other NPC characters commenting on the B/W outbreaks).--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 12:25, 17 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Origins Corrections ==<br />
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Hello! I am new to bulbapedia and I saw you reverted some of my changes to the verb conjugation implying uncertainty in two different articles. You mentioned that I would be allowed to do this in the future in the case that I have an official source. What constitutes an official source in this case? I ask because I would be willing to write to someone (maybe a developer?) in order to get confirmation but I do not wish to do this if it is unlikely written confirmation would not count as an official source. Are interviews with developers acceptable? Ideally, if you could link me to some sort of list that includes examples of acceptable sources that would be very helpful for me. Thank you for your time. [[User:DeterministicSpaceRichard|DeterministicSpaceRichard]] ([[User talk:DeterministicSpaceRichard|talk]])<br />
:An interview with the original Japanese (or Western, in James Turner's case) designer is the absolute source. An example would be the interview with Pikachu's designer where she revealed its origin. We don't have a list because interviews with the designers regarding Pokemon origins are scarce.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 04:54, 18 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== why did you revert my edit? ==<br />
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I'm completely new to editing this wiki and was wondering why you [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Ponyta_(Pok%C3%A9mon)&diff=3097546&oldid=3097545 undid my first edit]? You didn't leave a reason in the reversion's edit summary and I didn't think my edit was "bad". Is there some policy about the trivia/name origin section I don't know about? {{unsigned|Twisted Code}}<br />
:I had already removed that previously, as I felt that it was not really necessary to point out.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 05:28, 20 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
::By that standard, what makes anything else on this wiki "necessary", especially stuff in the trivia section? I don't really understand the line you're drawing, as it seems like it could go either way. Then again, I'm new here so what do I know?¯\_(ツ)_/¯--[[User:Twisted Code|Twisted Code]] ([[User talk:Twisted Code|talk]]) 18:33, 20 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::If you don't mind me inserting myself, I think that that's a worthy trivia point. I didn't realize it until reading it here. It's the exact kind of thing I'd expect to see in a trivia section. --[[User:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#00A1E9">cela</span><span style="color:#BF004F">donk</span>]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 19:31, 20 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
::::Trivia point, sure. Just don't think it's worth pointing out in the name origin section as the line before already conveys what is being said well enough without trying to be witty.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 07:32, 21 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::::maybe we could move the "based on a unicorn" trivia point altogether then? Seems that point being in *specifically* the name origin subsection is the issue. I'd like to point out the pun one way or another, as I thought it was a clever quip from the developers.--[[User:Twisted Code|Twisted Code]] ([[User talk:Twisted Code|talk]]) 13:46, 21 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
::::::Uh... no. That line is meant to be in the origins sections as it's detailing what Galarian Ponyta might be based off. The extra bit about "unique horn" isn't necessary.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 06:38, 22 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::::::... And "unique horn" supports that point that it "might be" based on a unicorn. I don't see what the big deal is here, or why one piece of trivia is more "necessary" than any other piece? Is there some sort of rule against acknowledging puns (even to support another point) or something? --[[User:Twisted Code|Twisted Code]] ([[User talk:Twisted Code|talk]]) 13:21, 26 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::::::After a bit of thought and reading [[WP:WP:WIN|one of Wikipedia's (a.k.a. the mother of all wikis or "MOAW") policies concerning impasses like this]], I've decided I'm willing to just leave it go. Mostly because I know you're an admin and I don't feel like challenging the "staff won't bite" claim in the [[template:welcome]] message, but also because this impasse is such an enigma to me that it doesn't feel worthwhile trying to understand it — especially in light of the policy I mentioned (which presumably also applies to any wiki created in the same spirit of collaboration). That said, please register and take into account my STRONG objection to your decision in this matter, and on that note, have a nice day :-)--[[User:Twisted Code|Twisted Code]] ([[User talk:Twisted Code|talk]]) 22:43, 2 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
::::::::Apologies for the late response. It saying that Galarian Ponyta might be based of a Unicorn is suffice enough, without the need to be witty or smart. Like I said, if anything, the pun goes in the main trivia section, not the name origin section. As for the Wikipedia policy, we are not Wikipedia. We do not share the same rules or guidelines (well, we might share some, but not all, and definitely not that one).--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 04:32, 3 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::I accept that explanation, though I'm struggling slightly to reconcile it with my original thinking (though in any case, my initial question is settled). As for the thing about Wikipedia: yes I realize this is not Wikipedia, nor is it a project belonging to Wikimedia; what I meant by what I said was that, as both wikis are, by nature, collaborative projects and that policy is conducive to cooperation, I felt it could be applicable here, not that it would actually be enforced because, as you said, this isn't Wikipedia. Sorry about that, I should've been more clear.--[[User:Twisted Code|Twisted Code]] ([[User talk:Twisted Code|talk]]) 19:10, 3 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Sobble's Origin for Trivia Section ==<br />
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We know Sobble is based on a chameleon and it says that's it's Water-typing is based on the basilisk lizard, but here's another thing you could add which makes a lot of sense (like how it also connects to water). Below are the reasons/facts and links.<br />
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Because of its color scheme and type, Sobble could be based on the Veiled chameleon. Even though it's not aquatic, it has a special adaption to collect water in its habitat where there is little water. This species of chameleon has a casque (the helmet-like protrusion on top of its head) that collects water. At night, droplets of moisture roll down the casque and into the chameleon's mouth. <br />
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The way the droplets flow down the Veiled chameleon's face could give the illusion that it's crying which could explain the teardrop markings on Sobble's face. The adult males of this species have defined bands of blue and yellow. Those two colors are part of Sobble's color scheme. <br />
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Here are the links for more information: https://animals.sandiegozoo.org/animals/chameleon (As you scroll down, start reading where is says "A water-catching casque.") https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veiled_chameleon <br />
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Here is a picture of the adult male Veiled chameleon: https://flchams.com/chameleon/adult-veiled-chameleons-for-sale/ [[User:Macpika|Macpika]] ([[User talk:Macpika|talk]]) 04:02, 23 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
:Its behavior and appearance is similar enough, you can add it if you want to, just remember to use "may be based off" or "appears to be based off" rather than "is based off", since it's still speculation.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 05:11, 23 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Adding Tabs ==<br />
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ForceFire,<br />
How do I add tabs to pages? I want to add a trivia tab to a move page, [[G-Max Wind Rage]]. How do I do that?<br />
[[User:PeakA|PeakA]] ([[User talk:PeakA|talk]]) 18:33, 24 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== How is that correct? ==<br />
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[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Chandelure_(Pok%C3%A9mon)&curid=115955&diff=3102742&oldid=3102717] Isn't it pronounced "home-ige"? Thus it should be "a" instead of "an". [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 16:20, 25 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
:You need to google how to pronounce it. It comes in two English-speaking flavors and isn't worth making a change for. [[User:ArcToraphim|Kai]] * the [[User talk:ArcToraphim|Arc]] [[Special:Contributions/ArcToraphim|Toraph]] 17:02, 25 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
::Sorry if I'm being a pest, but the first result I found is literally "hom·age". [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 17:09, 25 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::And underneath that is how to pronounce it. "/ˈ(h)ämij/" [https://www.google.com/search?q=homage+pronunciation&oq=homage+&aqs=chrome.0.69i59l3j69i57j0j69i60l3.3435j1j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 The h is in parentheses for a reason.] If you straight up google 'herb' like you did with homage, you'll get the same thing, even tho we don't say the 'h' at all. [[User:ArcToraphim|Kai]] * the [[User talk:ArcToraphim|Arc]] [[Special:Contributions/ArcToraphim|Toraph]] 17:28, 25 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::::I think you picked a poor example, because everyone I hear that says "herb" uses the "h". However, it's clear I'm not going to make any progress talking about this, so you'll probably be happy to know that I give up. [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 17:40, 25 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Question ==<br />
Do you believe that Ōkido (オーキド) means anything in Japanese? [[User:Wc12271991|Wc12271991]] ([[User talk:Wc12271991|talk]]) 22:19, 25 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Pseudo-legendary Pokémon ==<br />
Now that Ash has captured a Dragonite, can you unlock the Pseudo-legendary Pokémon page so I can add that information to it, please? [[User:Seabiscuit2020|Seabiscuit2020]] ([[User talk:Seabiscuit2020|talk]]) 17:40, 26 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
:The pseudo legendary page is '''never''' getting unprotected. If an edit needs to be made, request it on the talk page of the article or go to an admin.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 04:02, 27 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Vandal ==<br />
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We have a vandal on the loose. Could you or some other admin do something about them? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 18:46, 27 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
:Never mind. They were just dealt with. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 18:46, 27 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== New page ==<br />
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Thank you,ForceFire for helping me out in the talk. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 14:25, 29 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Split ==<br />
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Could the Wyndon Stadium article be split to have a subpage for the Champion tournaments the same way as "Pokémon League (Alola)" was split to have a separate subpage for Title Defense? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 17:41, 29 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
:I've brought the suggestion up to the others. I personally wouldn't mind it being split, since the page is already large.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 05:14, 30 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
::Thank you. Please let me know when a decision is made. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:55, 30 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Recurring definition? ==<br />
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I'm confused. Please explain why {{MTR}} was removed from the recurring wild Pokémon in the anime page? I agree that he is a main character, however he is also a wild Pokémon that has been featured in than one episode, meeting the recurring wild Pokémon criteria. Recurring means just that occurring again. [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 13:52, 1 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
:Meowth doesn't appear every now and then, he appears in every episode (bar B/W, but that has already come and gone), which is the direct opposite of being recurring.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 16:05, 1 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
::Speaking of other things not meeting the criteria … the list of Ash's temporary traveling companions has some questionable additions. <br />
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::Ritchie was simply encountered and is listed even though his appearances over three episodes was part of the Team Rocket-Lugia arc, plus Oliver and Luka who appeared during the same period are not.<br />
::Zoey, while she appeared across multiple episodes in Snowpoint City, she simply met up with the group rather than traveled with them. <br />
::Dia is another questionable addition, and while he appeared in two episodes, it was only while Ash was in the alternate dimension. Your thoughts? [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 23:21, 1 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::Can Mewtwo of the original series be added? It appeared in two main episodes and multiple specials. [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 08:36, 2 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::Zeraora matches the definition of a recurring wild Pokémon: a wild Pokémon that appears in more than one episode and has some enough notable sort of involvement in the plot. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 08:46, 2 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
::::I'm not sure if there is a criteria for Ash's temporary travelling companions, but I think the idea should be if they're with Ash for more than three episodes and travel from place to place, they should be added. Which I guess would discount Dia. Get second opinions.<br />
::::I'm not sure if major movie characters count? I know there's Slowking there, but it doesn't play a major role in its movie. As for Zeraora, I think it comes down to how many episode appearances counts as "recurring". I don't think Zeroara as much as most of the Pokemon on the recurring article.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 10:05, 2 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::::I've sought a second opinion. Thanks for the replies on today's queries. [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 10:55, 2 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== BW058? ==<br />
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I saw the change made to BW058. However I based those additions on the fact that Gym Leader's Pokémon evolving like [[Roark's Cranidos]] has been listed in the past, plus Chili is a recurring character and also the brother of Cilan. {{unsigned|PardescanSlowbro}}<br />
:Roark's Cranidos evolving is notable as it effects Ash's battle with him. The additions you made to BW058 weren't that major and didn't need to be elaborated on.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 09:54, 2 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Upload problem ==<br />
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I belong to the autoconfirmed members group and recently created my userpage. I can't upload any images and it denied permission saying I must be autoconfirmed. Please look into this issue and I also have have a lot of images from the new series, that I want to upload!! [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 11:27, 2 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
:Image uploading is done over at the [https://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Main_Page Archives], and you have to be autconfirmed over there. Autoconfirmation on the archives is separate than on Bulbapedia. So you have to make some edits on the Archives to become autoconfirmed.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 12:40, 2 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
Thank you ForceFire for your advice --[[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 15:37, 3 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
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I have a doubt,is there any colour difference between Ash's Pikachu in the Japanese and English dub of the pokémon anime? Can you please say something about it! --[[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 15:39, 3 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== About Dinamax/Gigantamax in the anime ==<br />
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When a Poké evolves, here it usually says "x took y episodes to evolve" or something. How will you do with Pokémon that reach that level?For example, I'm doing a Gyarados'page for Lance. I put something like Lance's Gyarados took xxx episodes to dinamax (is that the name we should put?)? Where is this kind of information going to be? In the box with the animal's information?Are there any rules or tutorials already done explaining this? I really appreciate it if you can help me.--[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hilaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 13:54, 02 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
:That's probably not going to be noted in the infobox, we don't note "how long" it took for a Pokemon to Mega Evolve. If anything, that goes into the main history section of the article.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 15:24, 2 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
::Thank you--[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hilaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 16:08, 02 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Champion ==<br />
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Lance was mentioned as the Indigo league champion in the preview of SS012. But, the trivia of SS012 has a edit that says he lost his championship somewhere in the middle of the anime. Is it right? --[[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 16:30, 4 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
:Please answer my question quickly [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 14:10, 6 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
::Trivia has since been removed as it needs to be verified if he states that he's an Elite Four member in the original Japanese version.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 14:15, 6 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
I'm sorry about that, actually Lance is mentioned as the member of Kanto Elite four by Go in the preview. I checked it and undid the edit in SS012. Hope you wouldn't mind about the undo and thank you, ForceFire. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 14:20, 6 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
:I've found Japanese sources describing [[AG097]] that describe Lance as an Elite Four member in his Hoenn appearance as well. He indeed hasn't been referred to as a Champion since the Johto era of the anime. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 14:50, 6 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
::Dhiwakar, please don't add back the trivia until the problem has been resolved. Finnish, if someone can find the Japanese episode and confirm it, I think that would be solid evidence.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 17:02, 6 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
: Okay ForceFire, I assure you I would not add it in the trivia until it is solved. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 17:09, 6 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
: If you don't mind, I shall ask something. Lance was mentioned as the member of Kanto Elite four in the preview of SS012. Isn't it enough to solve the problem? [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 16:54, 7 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
::I'm afraid you're missing the point here. We're trying to solve if he was referred to as an Elite Four members Pokémon in [[AG097]], because that affects the piece of trivia you're wanting to add to SM012. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 17:02, 7 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
: I get it now,thank you FinnishPokéFan92. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 05:45, 8 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Question, out of curiosity ==<br />
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When you customize a signature, does that affect signatures that have been already submitted ''before'' said customization? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 09:08, 5 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
:No. The new signatures comes into affect after you've changed it.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 09:29, 5 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
::Okay, thanks. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 09:38, 5 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Delete, please ==<br />
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I recently moved Porygon's evolution category, following its Evolution item's new formatting. Could you delete the unnecessary redirect that was formed in the process? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 12:48, 5 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
:Done.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 13:02, 5 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
::Now I've moved the category for Elite Four members' Pokémon to remove an unnecessary uppercase "M". Could you remove the redirect? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 13:23, 12 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::Done.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 05:01, 13 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Colour difference ==<br />
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Is thre any difference between Ash's Pikachu in the Japanese and English dub of the anime. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 14:40, 6 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
:Please answer this question, ForceFire. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 13:53, 7 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
::Not too sure what you mean here. Could be a number of factors.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 06:45, 8 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
Sorry about that, i forgot to mention the word colour inthe above question. It was actually, " Is there any colour difference between Ash's Pikachu in the Japanese and English dub of the anime?". [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 08:37, 8 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
:Not that I'm aware of.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 12:31, 8 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
Thank you ForceFire. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 14:20, 8 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Debut uncertainty ==<br />
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For movie 22, should cases like Gary's Pokémon on his page or Mewtwo on Viridian Gym's page have their debut appearances listed to be their main series debuts or M22? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 16:44, 7 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
:Whichever one aired first in Japan. M01 (I believe aired first before EP063). Not M22.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 06:45, 8 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== User page ==<br />
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I want to move the usertag box to the right corner of my page. But I don't know how to do it. Can you please help with this!I won't edit it if you say it today itself,because I have already done three edits in my userpage!! [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 09:53, 8 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
:The code containing the tags should go above everything.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 12:31, 8 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
I can't understand completely, can you show me a pic of it, please. Thank you ForceFire. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 14:20, 8 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
:The table containing all your usertags should be placed '''above''' the first section. I.e. just swap the placement of your sections around.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 14:58, 8 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
Can you see if have done it correctly, unfortunately I have wasted my edits and unable to delete the excess points and thank you, ForceFire. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 05:30, 9 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
:It's fine.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 07:03, 9 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
: Thanks a lot, ForceFire. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 09:42, 9 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Dynamax ==<br />
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Isn't Pikachu Dynamaxing without going into it's pokéball, important? If it is too specific,it is notable right? I also have an intuition, that it has something to do with Eternatus. Moreover, it is supposed to go into the trivia. Thank you, ForceFire [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 13:12, 10 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
:No, it isn't notable. It doesn't matter whether Pikachu returned to his Poke Ball or not.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 07:31, 11 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
Thanks again, ForceFire. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 13:54, 11 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Magearna ==<br />
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Pokémon HOME reveals that Shiny Magearna doesn't have any paint on it, like the Magearna from the Sun & Moon series. Should it be considered a Shiny Magearna in the light of this new information? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 13:44, 13 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
:I would think so, if it's the most recent design of the Shiny form.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 04:40, 14 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
::It is. [https://66.media.tumblr.com/4870664d714ac276fbb98e9a9d72afb8/eec1975ebfa88305-2d/s540x810/0258c33075f759d2fd334cceb64a1dd429db6f86.png Here] is an image I found of the Shiny Magearna Sprite from HOME, while [[:File:Mohn Magearna.png|here]] in an image of the S&M series Magearna. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 08:25, 14 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::Based on those images, do I have your permission to classify Magearna as a Shiny in the anime? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 15:37, 15 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
::::I'd say it's fine to classify it as a Shiny form of Magearna.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 16:21, 15 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::::Thank you. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 13:58, 17 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Ash's Dynamax Band ==<br />
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Ash doesn't seem to wear the Dynamax band, continuously like the Z-Ring in the new series. Is it to be noted in the major events of SS014. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 15:00, 17 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
:No. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 15:19, 17 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
:Ash not wearing his Z-Ring anymore wasn't a major event. And it's likely he'll just wear it when he's in Galar and can actually use it. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 15:20, 17 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
I wasn't asking about the Z-Ring. I just wanted to ask about the Dynamax Band, whether not wearing it continuously must be noted, if not in major events atleast in trivia! Hope you understand. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 16:13, 17 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
:I used Z-Ring as a comparison. And him not continuously wearing it is definitely not major event worthy. Not sure about trivia worthiness either, but we'll see. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 16:16, 17 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
Thank you, FinnishPokéFan [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 13:46, 18 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
:Sorry about that edit, ForceFire. I added it because FinnishPokéFan92 was not sure about trivia worthiness,also I didn't do it on purpose. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 14:02, 23 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Help me ==<br />
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I am getting a blank of space in my userpage. How can remove it? If you want a clear picture of my query,see my userpage. Thank you, ForceFire. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 17:28, 19 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
:It's because the Ash's Pokemon template is stretching the page due to it's size.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 01:35, 20 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
:: It was there before adding the template. How to clear it? I see there is no space in your page,eve though you usertags. Thank you,ForceFire. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 13:42, 20 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::There's always going to be whitespace on your userpage because their are things stretching the page, the template or the usertags prior to you adding the template. If you want to get rid of the whitespace, you can use the "expandable" tags to hide the templates or usertages so there's less whitespace.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 15:15, 21 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
Thank you so much, ForceFire. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 13:45, 22 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Deleting sandbox article ==<br />
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Hey! It's been a while. I created [[User:GrammarFreak01/Pikachu in a cap|a sandbox article]] for the [[Pikachu in a cap]] article, but it seems someone's already beat me to the punch. Mind deleting it for me, please? Thanks! [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 10:12, 20 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
:Done.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 12:57, 20 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
::Thank you. :) [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 11:24, 23 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Minor disagreement ==<br />
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In SS013, Ash loses a battle for the first time in 54 episodes, a rarely and possibly even never before seen long streak for him. I think this should be noted in the episode's trivia section, but GrammarFreak01 disagrees, saying it's not notable. What's your opinion? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 16:27, 23 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
:You should've made it clear that 54 episodes was the longest period of time Ash has gone without a loss in the anime, because I did not know this. I'll restore the edit with the necessary addendum. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 23:37, 23 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
::I did not say that because I wasn't sure. I only figured it was notably long. And I may have just discovered an even longer lossless period for him from the XY series (from XY036 to XY106). --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 14:47, 24 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== RedneckAnimeGeek ==<br />
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{{user|RedneckAnimeGeek}} has made excessively many edits on Hop and Leon's pages. I tried to notify them on their talk page to use the preview button and lessen the amount of their edits, but their actions did not change. Could you help? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 20:46, 23 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== GaOlé ==<br />
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https://postimg.cc/gallery/ikii6jsa/<br />
Hello, can these images be placed on Archives and consequently placed on the pages of the respective characters?They are from the Ga Olé game with the theme of the new anime series.[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 12:15, 24 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Reinhartmax's categories ==<br />
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{{user|Reinhartmax}} has just created categories for Trainers with giant, Fossil, and baby Pokémon. I personally can see the notability in the first one and maybe in the second one, but not really in the last one. What's your opinion? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 22:11, 25 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
:I don't think all three are notable. I've brought it up to the staff, and gave Reinhartmax a message to cease making more categories.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 05:32, 26 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
::Thank you. I won't mind if all three of them were removed, so no objections there. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:38, 26 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::Has the staff made a decision yet? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 19:51, 4 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
::::Not yet. It got put off to the side for other things.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 04:19, 5 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::::Is this subject still waiting to be solved? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 20:27, 13 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
::::::Can those categories be removed? Has a decision been reached yet? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 20:08, 5 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::::::Hello? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 11:05, 21 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
::::::::Discussions regarding this has kinda stalled. Though I think it's rather clear that they aren't needed. I'll be deleting them in a bit.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 12:37, 21 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::Thank you. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 14:25, 21 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Process for reporting an admin ==<br />
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Hey! Is there a formal process to report an admin for shirking their duties? [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:Ataro#Iris_edit I've been trying] [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:Ataro#Iris_edit.2C_continued for months] to talk with {{U|Ataro}} about an editing style that I strongly disagree with, which led to what I believe to be an unnecessary three-day block on my end. Ataro [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AAtaro&type=revision&diff=3032795&oldid=3031944 responded], and this was [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AAtaro&type=revision&diff=3032886&oldid=3032814 my response]. For months, I haven't received another response from them. I am led to believe Ataro is ignoring me on purpose because [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AAtaro&type=revision&diff=3068489&oldid=3068474 they] [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AAtaro&type=revision&diff=3068499&oldid=3068496 have] [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AAtaro&type=revision&diff=3107287&oldid=3107274 responded] to other talk page messages, but not mine. They have also been active many times since that initial response, so it would've been absolutely difficult for them not to see all the talk page notifications that were sent by my many attempts to contact them.<br />
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I find it hard to believe they were unaware of all of that. If there was supposed to be another, more appropriate way to reach them, then my apologies; I didn't know. But nevertheless, I find it absolutely disgusting that this admin would engage in such selective behavior. Trying to contact them even before they initially responded was an extremely tedious debacle, and by this point, I am absolutely done with their conduct. I'd like to see if there's a formal procedure to address this. Thank you. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 11:05, 27 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
:If you have a concern about a staff member ignoring you, you can bring it up to either the Editor in Chief (Kogoro) or the Deputy Editor in Chief (Pokemaster97).--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 13:17, 27 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
::Thank you. :) [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 08:48, 28 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Explain. ==<br />
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Hello, why is it that you removed my Shadow Lugia base stats from the Shadow Lugia page? Those were the real base stats so they had no reason to be changed. Email me at JonahLeeWalker.123@gmail.com with your reply. {{unsigned|Gamer PROJonah}}<br />
:It was improperly formatted. See how the base stats on other articles are done.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 04:22, 28 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Vandal alert ==<br />
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It looks like {{user|Justin Bibarel}} is going to be nothing but a vandal. Take care of it? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 01:34, 1 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
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:Never mind, {{U|SnorlaxMonster}} took care of it. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 01:41, 1 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== SS017 ==<br />
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Is the title of SS017 is "Something happens to Hibanny". I saw the news about this in Twitter. So, I want you confirm the truthness of this fact. Because I can't edit unless I have proof about it,right! [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 09:04, 1 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
:Hi,ForceFire please answer my question! Thank you. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 04:17, 4 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
::Where did you get the title from?--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 06:03, 4 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
::: I'm not completely sure about the title. I saw it in #anipoke in twitter. Hence, I asked you if you're aware of it. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 08:24, 4 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
::::A simple Twitter hashtag is not a reliable source. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 08:30, 4 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
::::: I'm not trying to prove my fact,I was just confirming it here. Also,it is the official hashtag of the Pokémon anime. The tweets may not be reliable, I accept. Hope you understand my point of view GrammarFreak01. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 15:24, 4 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::::: Don't worry about it,since we got the title. Thank you ForceFire. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 03:50, 6 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Gary's Journey ==<br />
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Hi, please, I wanted to understand why the change was reversed with Gary's page. Why no other human character has the separation between Kanto / Johto / Hoenn or anything like that anymore. The marking says "Orange Islands", but Gary was never said to have been on the islands. And the page is about Gary's point of view, isn't it? What's the point of keeping that with Gary only?Shouldn't that be standard for everyone?[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 15:17, 2 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
:Could've sworn we also split the history sections of human characters too, but that doesn't seem to be the case. I've reverted myself.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 15:34, 2 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== List of references to Pokémon in popular culture edit ==<br />
Hello there. May I ask as to why you have deleted my writing on [[Difference between revisions of "List of references to Pokémon in popular culture"|this page]]? If you would have given me some more time, I would have fixed up my own work, rather than someone else deleting it. Could you please explain as to why you have deleted this specific section? I recognise that some of my information is incorrect, and I would have fixed it up myself. If there is an alternate section where you want me to put it under, I will be more than happy to do this change. Thank you for taking the time to read this, and I hope you recosider your reversion. [[User:BlueDecoRoller|BlueDecoRoller]] ([[User talk:BlueDecoRoller|talk]]) 01:31, 4 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
:As I said in my edit summary, passing mentions are not notable. It has to be more than just a namedrop.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 06:03, 4 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
::As an alternative, could I add my information [[List of background references to Pokémon|here instead]]? I could create a new section for Books, comics and Manga, and put it in there, along with a stub. What do you think? If you approve, I should have it done by 06:00 03/05/20 (UTC). Hopefully. [[User:BlueDecoRoller|BlueDecoRoller]] ([[User talk:BlueDecoRoller|talk]]) 21:51, 4 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::It's fine there.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 04:19, 5 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
::::All fixed. Thank you for clarifying as to where I should put it.[[User:BlueDecoRoller|BlueDecoRoller]] ([[User talk:BlueDecoRoller|talk]]) 06:34, 5 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Focus on Ash ==<br />
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Isn't [[SS013]] an episode focusing on Ash. I don't know how to add it in the Category: Episodes focusing on Ash. If it is an episode focusing on Ash,could you add it in the category for me, ForceFire! [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 08:26, 4 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
:Not really.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 04:19, 5 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
:: Thank you, ForceFire. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 15:00, 5 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Appearance info for Series-exclusive Recurring Characters: ==<br />
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Hello,<br />
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I wish to clarify whether all appearances for recurring characters in a particular series should be documented. This comes in the wake of GrammarFreak01 restoring deletions made to [[Abe]], [[Sarah and Harper]] and [[Anela]]'s pages of otherwise unimportant or minor appearances, plus Poké Problem scenes which have little to do with the respective episode plots. As such I'd prefer for these changes to be reverted to make for a succinct article. [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 09:15, 5 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
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:I disagree with making articles such as those succinct. It needs material to fill it up, otherwise it'll be painfully short. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 09:16, 5 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
::Only major appearances should be noted, if they didn't do much and was simply a background character, then it's not notable. And the Poke Problem segments are clearly not notable at all. It doesn't matter if it's too short, Reggie has appeared quite a few times and his article isn't that long. Quality over quantity.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 12:22, 5 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::Thank you for the clarification. [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 12:48, 5 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
::::So would this have to apply to ''every'' recurring character article, including those who only had major roles in just two episodes like [[Savannah]] and [[Sandra]]? If not, what's exactly the limit? Which recurring character articles have to be succinct and which ones don't have to be? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 09:13, 8 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::::If they contributed to the plot of the episode, then it's notable. And it counts for every recurring character, it doesn't matter of one page is longer than the other. That's simply not a problem.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 09:38, 8 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
::::::GrammarFreak01, the examples you gave were deliberate cameos, which are different from background appearances of the examples I explained. [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 09:42, 8 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::::::Allow me to rephrase, then: is the mention of cameos and flashbacks notable for all recurring characters' histories, or not? That's among the material that's being contested in [[Abe]] and [[Sarah and Harper]]. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 09:46, 8 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
::::::::If they are important cameos or flashbacks.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 09:50, 8 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::How so? Examples? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 09:52, 8 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::If they are important to the plot of the episode, then it's notable. If they didn't do anything at all, then it's not notable..--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 09:57, 8 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::::Okay, gotcha. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 10:00, 8 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== The trivia ==<br />
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The music from the trailer of the new series was used in [[SS014]],when the egg containing the Golurk emerged from the underground of the ruins. Could it be treated as part of trivia of SS014, as we treated the use of Gym battle theme from SwSh. If it is a part of trivia, can you add it in the trivia of SS014 for me,as I don't really know how to frame it properly for the trivia. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 15:09, 5 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
:It's not a notable piece of music, so it's not notable.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 15:40, 5 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== User YayBoy7 vandalizing the site. ==<br />
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I think you should have access to the last changes, the user in question started to vandalize the pages of some users and places and characters with bad words. I tried to modify what I could, but I couldn't prevent other changes and as I don't know if it is possible to report here, it probably must have happened without me seeing it. 01:43 [[Hikaru Wazana]] 05 March 2020<br />
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== Request ==<br />
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I appreciate you protecting SS017's page for the time being. But could I request you'll remove the last edit that was there before the protection took place? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 11:58, 6 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
:Eh, if it wasn't hidden, then I'd remove it. But since it's hidden, so it's doing no harm. It can be removed/corrected once the protection expires.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 12:55, 6 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Lugia (Pocket monsters) ==<br />
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In [[SS020]],the Lugia from the second episode of the series is going to appear. Can we categorize this Lugia as a recurring character in the anime? [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 15:32, 7 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
:I also wanted to ask you one more question,i.e How do I join in Project anime? [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 15:44, 7 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
::Once the episode airs. "Joining" projects is an out of use thing, everyone is editing under a certain project, regardless of them "joining" it. Though you can still add the "User is a part of Project..." usertags to your userpage if you like.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 16:07, 7 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
::: I get the idea about it now. You mean that the edits under the anime pages are part of Project anime. Thanks a lot, ForceFire. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 17:25, 7 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Item Sprites ==<br />
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Hey, I've made a suggestion here [[Template talk:Bag2]]. What do you think about it?--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|<span style="color:#CC0000">Rocket</span> <span style="color:#666666">Grunt</span>]] ([[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|<span style="color:#CCCCCC">Report To Me</span>]])''' 22:25, 7 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
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==User edit-warring on an article==<br />
I've got {{user|Kirigayaray}} [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Pok%C3%A9mon_world_in_relation_to_the_real_world&type=revision&diff=3129878&oldid=3129829 continuously reverting my own reversions] of the [[Pokémon world in relation to the real world]] article. [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Pok%C3%A9mon_world_in_relation_to_the_real_world&type=revision&diff=3129839&oldid=3129835 I've talked with them] about going to the talk page to discuss the contested edits, but [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Pok%C3%A9mon_world_in_relation_to_the_real_world&type=revision&diff=3129878&oldid=3129839 they still made a reversion]. Would you mind intervening, please? Thank you! [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 09:13, 8 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
:The entire article is speculation, so it's fine for them to change it within reason. If you feel that their edits are wrong, then go to their talk page or the talk page of the article. Would also help if you had knowledge on what those areas the location is supposedly based on. That way, your reversion might hold water.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 09:48, 8 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Recurring character categories ==<br />
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Hey! Since I noticed there's an entire set of categories for [[Character of the day|characters of the day]], I was wondering if we could create the same for recurring characters in the anime. I feel like they could use some further categorization and distinction. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 10:54, 8 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
:The main anime characters category covers those fairly well, in my opinion.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 05:52, 9 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
::But it's already so hard to look for some of them, like [[Savannah]]. I think we need such categories. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 00:12, 13 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Deleted ==<br />
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Why did you delete [[:Category:Pages with ignored display titles]], even though I think it is needed? --<span lang="ja">[[User:TheICTLiker4|<span style="color:#333">'''TheI'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/TheICTLiker4|<span style="color:#f30">'''CTLi'''</span>]][[User talk:TheICTLiker4|<span style="color:#bbb">'''ker4'''</span>]]</span> 11:27, 8 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
:No... it's not needed.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 05:52, 9 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Feedback ==<br />
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Hi, I'm putting together a custom template for the characters that will be in the world competition. Some details are still needed, but I would like to know the opinion of the site staff. Is there any chance of being approved? Is it worth it to keep doing this?My inspiration is something that I saw on sports websites. I thought it might be interesting given the importance of the event.<br />
Here is an example:<br />
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This marks the position that Trainer _____ took in the world ranking:<br />
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{| class="roundy" style="margin: auto; text-align: center; background: #{{water color}}; border: 3px solid #{{water color dark}}" cellpadding=5px<br />
|-style="background: #{{water color light}}"<br />
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" |[[File:Pokémon World Championships logo.png|75px]]<br> Pokémon World Championish <br />
! <br><br>[[File:Bag Poké Ball Sprite.png]]<br><br>Normal Class<br />
! <br><br>[[File:Bag Great Ball Sprite.png]]<br><br>Super Class<br />
! <br><br>[[File:Bag Ultra Ball Sprite.png]]<br><br>Hyper Class<br />
! style="{{roundytr|5px}}" |<br><br>[[File:Bag Master Ball Sprite.png]]<br><br> Master Class<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
| Ranking position<br />
| {{color2|000|SS018|Not Avaliable}}<br />
| {{color2|000|SS018|Top 999}}<br />
| {{color2|000|SS018|Top 99}}<br />
| {{color2|000|SS012|Top 8}}<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
|-<br />
| class="roundybottom" style="background: #{{water color light}}" colspan="5" |<br />
|}<br />
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What do you think?--[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 16:17, 9 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
:Initially thought this was for the TCG worlds tournament thing, so there was a bit of confusion on my end. I've asked and the judgement was that it's a bit too early for such a template, when we know very little of it and its competitors. Maybe once that gets revealed it could be used.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 12:14, 10 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Let's Go plot description ==<br />
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I personally think the plot description {{user|Kahchun}} wrote for Let's Go Pikachu and Eevee today isn't up to code. Do you agree? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 08:21, 10 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Articles for the Mainspace ==<br />
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Hello. I'd hoped for a response from Abcboy or G50, in regards to some of these pages which are ready to be mainspaced, hopefully you can help.<br />
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*[[User:PardescanSlowbro/Legend Festival]]<br />
*[[User:PardescanSlowbro/Pokéstar Studios Film Competition]]<br />
*[[User:PardescanSlowbro/Subway Bosses's Stamp Rally]]<br />
*[[User:PardescanSlowbro/The Marina Group]]<br />
*[[User:PardescanSlowbro/Pershie/The Protectors]]<br />
*[[User:PardescanSlowbro/Bloom Canyon]]<br />
*[[User:PardescanSlowbro/Flower Garden Troupe]] - I've structured it like other organization pages like the [[Pokémon Lover's Club]] and [[B-Button League]] as its HQ was shown in the anime<br />
*[[User:PardescanSlowbro/Pokémon Training Center]]<br />
*[[User:PardescanSlowbro/Unnamed Island (EP060)]] - We have other unnamed island pages like the ones featured during the Orange and Decolore sagas<br />
*[[User:PardescanSlowbro/Big Town Pokémon]] - This one needs further discussion as these are the recurring Pokémon that aren't part of the Pichu Posse, as to whether this should be a separate page or rather the Pichu Posse page gets reconfigured to account for this.<br />
*[[User:PardescanSlowbro/Pershie]]<br />
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Regards [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 08:55, 10 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
:*Legend festival should be fine.<br />
:*The PokeStar competition article should detail its competitors like the other competition articles.<br />
:*Same as above.<br />
:*Marina group should be fine.<br />
:*(not sure why it's a subpage of Pershie) Protectors is fine, though is looking bare without a navigation template.<br />
:*Bloom Canyon could do with a bit more, but if nothing else major happens there, then I guess it'd do.<br />
:*Flower Garden Troupe is fine.<br />
:*Pokemon Training Center is fine.<br />
:*Unnamed Island is fine, again navigation template would help it look nicer.<br />
:*Big Town Pokemon needs further discussion about splitting it off from Pichu Brothers.<br />
:*Pershie didn't do much, and didn't really have an impact in any of the episodes it was in. Not notable.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 12:14, 10 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
::Just confirming, Bloom Canyon had a brief appearance in the episode.<br />
::Anyway, I've made those suggested changes, the pages are now ready for the mainspace. Thanks for the reply. [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 07:45, 11 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::Hi. I've noticed only two pages have been mainspaced so far. When will the other approved pages be uploaded to the mainspace? [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 09:40, 19 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
::::Apologies for that, all the approved articles have been moved.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 10:08, 19 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::::Much appreciated, thanks. [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 10:25, 19 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Professor Burnet ==<br />
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Thank you for this explanation while you “rollbacked” these edits, this will be useful in my future contributions. --<span lang="ja">[[User:TheICTLiker4|<span style="color:#333">'''TheI'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/TheICTLiker4|<span style="color:#f30">'''CTLi'''</span>]][[User talk:TheICTLiker4|<span style="color:#bbb">'''ker4'''</span>]]</span> 18:44, 11 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Mythical pokémon pics ==<br />
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Hi! I'd like to know the ratio over using promotional images of past mythical pokémon in the [[Mythical Pokémon|general page]] while the latest ones have to use the Sugimori artwork. I edited it because I thought it looked better and more cohesive. Thank you! --[[User:Crikko|'''★'''<span style="color:#6699FF;">'''Cri'''</span>'''ққ'''<span style="color:#6699FF;">'''ѳ~'''</span>'''*''']] 16:58, 13 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Gen 8 Sprites ==<br />
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Hi do you think we should start on the gen 8 sprites now and use the front sprites such as Grookey's front sprite<br />
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[[File:Spr 8s 810.png|300px]]<br />
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and upload the backsprites later? I apologize about my wording and English BTW ([[User:Mr.GodzillaMan|Mr.GodzillaMan]] ([[User talk:Mr.GodzillaMan|talk]]) 16:27, 17 March 2020 (UTC))<br />
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== New vandal alert ==<br />
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Hey! We've got {{user|Yeety}} being a vandal here. Take care of it, please? Thank you! [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 20:27, 17 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
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:Now this person's directly harassing me on my talk page and spreading lies about me on other users' talk pages. I need assistance! [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 20:47, 17 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
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::Never mind, {{U|Abcboy}} took care of it. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 20:52, 17 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Rillaboom's Drumsticks ==<br />
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I know that Rillaboom carries its drum on its back, but where does it keep its drumsticks? The leaf-like fur near its hands (like how Delphox keeps its branch in the fur on its arm)? [[User:Macpika|Macpika]] ([[User talk:Macpika|talk]]) 17:38, 19 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Totodile’s Tackle ==<br />
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Excuse me, I already know which episode Ash's Totodile used Tackle, and Duplica's Mini-Dit did the same, but why did it get reverted? Dub edits or something?--[[User:CoolPokeGuy|CoolPokéGuy]] ([[User talk:CoolPokeGuy|Talk]]) 19:03, 19 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
:Was it stated or are you just guessing? I don't particularly remember the episode.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 05:08, 20 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
:It was stated. I’ve seen that episode for a very long time.--[[User:CoolPokeGuy|CoolPokéGuy]] ([[User talk:CoolPokeGuy|Talk]]) 07:13, 20 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Relicanth ==<br />
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You can't just delete a fan theory from a paragraph designated to fan speculation. And why isn't Relicanth a map?--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|<span style="color:#CC0000">Rocket</span> <span style="color:#666666">Grunt</span>]] ([[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|<span style="color:#CCCCCC">Report To Me</span>]])''' 16:34, 23 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
:Do not edit war. Wait for a response. No response does not mean you can just add it back. Have patience.<br />
:I already said why on Relicanth's talk page. It's an opinion. Relicanth's body design looks nothing like the map of Hoenn. And it's a very large stretch to say that its design is why it's needed to unlock the Regis when the far simpler and probable reason is because it's a living fossil Pokemon.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 17:02, 23 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
::I'm not saying it's a map of Hoenn, but it surely is a map. Being brown (like old maps), having unexpleined by any other mean red spot, being unchanged for centuries and always placed sideway instead of heading the player in game sprites, all these things together suggest that. And as a theory of Hoenn map, even if you can't see it, it has no reason to not be added under speculations.--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|<span style="color:#CC0000">Rocket</span> <span style="color:#666666">Grunt</span>]] ([[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|<span style="color:#CCCCCC">Report To Me</span>]])''' 20:50, 23 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::It would make more sense if it looked like the map of Hoenn, otherwise, it's just a random design. Again, all of those are a stretch when the more simpler and probable reason is because it's an ancient Pokemon. It still needs to be reasonable speculation, and the whole map thing just isn't.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 01:39, 24 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Bulbapedia Rework ==<br />
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Hello, Force Fire. <br />
My name is Xeraphyy. Last month, a tweet was made announcing that Bulbapedia was going through some site upgrades. The link to the tweet is below.<br />
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https://twitter.com/Bulbapedia/status/1228458215324545024<br />
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I was wondering if the site upgrades are still continuing. Do you know of the status of the rework? Please get back to me when you can. [[User:Xeraphyy|Xeraphyy]] ([[User talk:Xeraphyy|talk]]) 18:34, 23 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Raichu's gender ==<br />
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May I ask why the gender of Visquez's Raichu can't be confirmed? It's a Raichu that was first seen after gender differences were implemented, we've seen Pikachu's gender differences before, and her Raichu's tail clearly was that of a male Raichu. I personally fail to see the reason to not consider its gender confirmed based on its tail. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 21:58, 23 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
:That's Pikachu's gender difference. Not Raichu's gender difference. Just because one gender difference has been acknowledged, does not mean the others exist. They still need to be acknowledged by the animators. They could easily acknowledge one difference but not the other, because they can just be like that sometimes.<br />
:A female Raichu has appeared in the anime, but it was drawn with a male tail (Tierno's). So we still can't use gender differences, until the female variant Raichu appears in the anime. Other than that, it needs to be explicitly stated or hit with attract/cute charm. But you know that already.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 01:39, 24 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
::Oh, right. I had completely forgotten about Tierno's Raichu. Sorry. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 08:31, 24 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::How is Tierno's Raichu a cetain case? I've ask about this [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Talk:Tierno_(anime) here].--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|<span style="color:#CC0000">Rocket</span> <span style="color:#666666">Grunt</span>]] ([[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|<span style="color:#CCCCCC">Report To Me</span>]])''' 11:36, 24 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
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==Hikaru Wazana==<br />
Me and FinnishPokéfan92 have been having some trouble with Hikaru Wazana, mainly on the Archive section with him uploading images that aren't the right size or quality, adding more work for us and other users. I've spoken to Chosen and Abcboy about this but haven't had any response. Was wondering if you could look into it? I'm bringing this up now as he's starting making more work on this side of Bulbapedia, notably the [[Elite Four]] and [[Casey's Meganium]] pages.--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 22:38, 25 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
::I didn’t upload anything to Casey’s Meganium page, the only thing I did was expand the page, which YEARS passed without anyone putting anything relevant about her role. The other uploads I made with images with the best quality I got, unfortunately I can't change them with the standard quality. If the images of the E4 you are talking about are those of the Pokemon Puzzle League, unfortunately I couldn't get any better, so I wondered if it was better to add content or not. I chose to add the content. <br />
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What should I do? There is a page that, as notable as it is, no one takes the trouble to update. It seems that people care more about putting Trivia than really supporting the site. The other day I sent you the screencaptures of a hosted site, but doing that for all the ones I get is an extra job. I don't want to give extra work to the people who collaborate here,[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]10:15, 31 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
:I don't pay too much attention to the archives side of things, so any issues should be brought up with someone that spends more time over there. As for Hikaru's edits here, they're fine. If they feel like a page can be expanded, they are free to expand it to the best of their abilities.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 12:05, 31 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Gender ==<br />
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So why exactly you reverted back the table for Pokemon that evolve depending on gender? It wasn't big edit, not even mine.--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|<span style="color:#CC0000">Rocket</span> <span style="color:#666666">Grunt</span>]] ([[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|<span style="color:#CCCCCC">Report To Me</span>]])''' 17:02, 26 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
:Because it wasn't necessary. Not every page have to have the same template design. You also made a large scale edit without consulting others on the talk page, like you usually do. If you want to suggest a drastic change, always propose it on the talk page first. Don't just do as you please.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 08:00, 27 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
::I'm too convinced that Bulbapedia's style should be precise and consistent as it is on most of pages already. Do you have any reason for this page to not be like the others? Because there is one reason for and zero against. Also, I do many bigger changes by myself because my questions and suggestions are rarely answered and when they do there is almost no reason presented. For example you still haven't answered my question about Tierno's Raichu.--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|<span style="color:#CC0000">Rocket</span> <span style="color:#666666">Grunt</span>]] ([[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|<span style="color:#CCCCCC">Report To Me</span>]])''' 16:31, 28 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::Don't just go ahead with making largescale edits just because no one responds, that does not give you the privilege to just make the edit anyway. Wait for a response. The evolution chain is not the point of that section of the article, so there is not needs for a template that showcases an entire evolutionary line. The article is about gender, so it shows the different gender specific Pokemon. Evolutionary line has nothing to do with the article. And Tierno's Raichu is confirmed female because the original version stated that Attract failed on Blastoise because Blastoise was male.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 16:55, 28 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
::::If there is no point in showing whole evolutionary line, then why don't you simplify it in the same way on other pages? And if Tierno's Raichu is confirmed female then why don't you mention that on page of Visquez's Raichu that it is the reason for not giving him gender. It's really annoying how you're making decisions you're not fully abide to.--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|<span style="color:#CC0000">Rocket</span> <span style="color:#666666">Grunt</span>]] ([[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|<span style="color:#CCCCCC">Report To Me</span>]])''' 15:16, 1 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::::Just leave it. It's fine the way it is and gets the point across just as well. The point is to show the evolution method and the gender specific forms, since the section is titled "gender based evolution", and using the artwork shows the differences much more clearly than a minisprite. That and your template makes it inconsistent in design with the template right below it.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 16:17, 1 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::::And as I said, they don't all have to have the same template design. Some pages can have unique templates designs depending on the article. There is no inconsistency issue.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 16:21, 1 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Urshifu ==<br />
Honestly just a small issue I spotted regarding Urshifu's page, where the Tower of Darkness and Tower of Waters are referred to as the Temple of Darkness and Temple of Waters in the evolution box. It's a minor error, but it bothered me, so I made an account specifically to try to fix it, but of course it was protected, which I didn't realize was a thing because I didn't ever consider it. Anyway, just something I felt obligated to point out for the sake of accuracy. Thanks for your time reading this. --[[User:ArcaneCrystal|ArcaneCrystal]] ([[User talk:ArcaneCrystal|talk]]) 07:30, 27 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
:Fixed.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 08:00, 27 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== List Grammar ==<br />
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On the Normal (type) page, you reverted my edit to the sentence, "Their inability to hit Ghost-type Pokémon can be nullified by using Foresight, Odor Sleuth, or by Pokémon with the Ability Scrappy." That's a list of two nouns (''Foresight'' and ''Odor Sleuth'') and a prepositional phrase ("by Pokémon with the Ability Scrappy"), which just doesn't work, or a list of two prepositional phrases ("by using Foresight" and "by Pokémon with the Ability Scrappy") and a noun (''Odor Sleuth''), which also just doesn't work. (At least, it doesn't work in American English; I don't know about other major dialects.) <br />
[[User:Matthias von Schwarzwald|Matthias von Schwarzwald]] ([[User talk:Matthias von Schwarzwald|talk]]) 16:41, 29 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== "In the movies"? ==<br />
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Dear ForceFire,<br />
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I noticed several of the anime characters that have been featured in the Pokémon movies have sections titled "In the movies", while most are "In the anime". Is there a reason for this, or should it all be standardized to one format?[[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 07:28, 30 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
:If they've featured in both the main series and the movie series, then it should have two subsections for anime and movies (order goes by whichever they first appeared in). Movie exclusive characters get a history section.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 08:59, 31 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Pokémon seen sections for anime locations ==<br />
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Dear ForceFire,<br />
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I would also like to clarify what Pokémon are typically included in the Pokémon seen sections of the location pages. While I think we can do away with these sections entirely due to differences in formatting and non-specific images as some appearance have only occurred in a group. I've noticed that some Trainer owned Pokémon are included in these segments, especially locations that hosted Contests, should it only be wild Pokémon and Pokémon known to actually reside in the area with their Trainer? [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 07:34, 30 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
:I think the section is necessary to showcase what Pokemon reside in the area. Multiple images of the same thing for individual Pokemon isn't a problem. It should ideally just be for wild Pokemon. I don't think a trainer's Pokemon being at a location counts, since it technically doesn't reside there (not sure why a contest location would have a section for that).--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 08:59, 31 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== [[Tracey's Scyther]] ==<br />
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The Grammarfreak user insists on putting a "Johto" section for Tracey's Scyther. Since Tracey didn't have a "Johto Journey", does that make any sense?I mean, the Johto and Kanto level is not separated with Kanto arc and Johto arc unless the respective Pokémon has a journey in such a place (Gary's Eevee, Gary Arcanine they are like that as far as I'm concerned, right?). <br />
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Doesn't the page just list the point of view of that respective character?Even if you allow me, I think the division should be just in the anime saga (something like Original Series, Advance, Diamond and so on). As is done even in the manga section. In this case of Tracey, what is the point in creating a section to detail a journey it did not take?I don't know I managed to put my point of view correctly, I apologize if you may have been a little confused.[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]10:30, 31 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
:The history is only separated by region if they have appeared in that region, yes. Though, in the case of Scyther, it did appear after the Orange Island arc but in Kanto and not Johto. I think renaming the section "Kanto", "Other", or "post Orange Islands" would be more appropriate. <br />
:The region specific separation should only be for Pokemon that appeared in two different regions in an arc (so Hoenn and Kanto for AG, Kanto, Orange, and Johto for OS, so on so forth). If the Pokemon has done something notable or important in a region, then it should be noted.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 12:05, 31 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== New titles of new series ==<br />
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SS021 - Hit Your Mark, Wave Guidance! Satoshi and the Mysterious Egg!!(12/4)<br />
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SS022 - Farewell, Rabbifoot!(19/4)<br />
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SS023 - Massive Panic! Sakuragi Park!!<br />
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These are the new titles. Could you confirm and them in the list of new series episodes. {{unsigned|Dhiwakar}}<br />
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Don't worry about it, ForceFire. It's already added. Thank you. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 13:25, 1 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Suggestion ==<br />
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I was wondering that should the Battle Frontier facility info templates be edited to include the possibility of a battlefield section, like with Gym info templates, and the game image of the facility in the template be replaced with the anime image, if possible. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 17:22, 4 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
:While I wouldn't be against it (I only really checked the Battle Pyramid article, and an anime image would be a better alternative), tryask for second opinions.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 05:10, 5 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
::Blazingfist has [[User talk:Blazingfist#Suggestion|also agreed to the idea]]. Should I ask some more users, or is this fine? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 17:30, 7 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::If you'd like, you can make a mockup in your userspace and I can get the Editorial board to check it.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 15:27, 8 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
::::I created a mockup [[User:FinnishPokéFan92/Template:Facility Infobox|here]]. I mainly just added another image section to the bottom of the template. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 18:10, 8 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::::I've brought it up with the editorial board, waiting approval.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 04:49, 9 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Does not explain name origin? ==<br />
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howdy, Force Fire. i'm just here to ask you, why have you removed my edit on Hawlucha's page? i was thinking it'd be possible that a Matador (Bullfighter) puts the "bull" in Luchabull. which is why i added it in the name origin. was there something wrong with it? ----[[User:inukoinu.k9|<span style="color:#52D2CA">i n u k o i n u</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:inukoinu.k9|<span style="color:#AF7AC5">talk</span>]])''</small> 19:37, 4 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
:It did not explain how the word "matador" itself is incorporated into the name. The relevance to bulls is already mentioned with just "bull" before it.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 05:10, 5 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
::oh, i really wanted to add how i thought it meant but i guess not. i'm still just a bit new at this so, sorry. heh. ----[[User:inukoinu.k9|<span style="color:#52D2CA">i n u k o i n u</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:inukoinu.k9|<span style="color:#AF7AC5">talk</span>]])''</small> 13:40, 5 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Ash Ketchum page split suggestion ==<br />
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Hi Force Fire, I've started [[Talk:Ash_Ketchum#Article_split_suggestion|a proposal on Ash Ketchum's talk page]] about splitting it into different pages and I would like to hear from you as Senior Administrator! Thanks!--[[User:Crikko|'''★'''<span style="color:#6699FF;">'''Cri'''</span>'''ққ'''<span style="color:#6699FF;">'''ѳ~'''</span>'''*''']] 15:08, 5 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
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==Cynthia (anime)==<br />
I was wondering if it might be worth giving Cynthia her own anime page or start work on one at least.--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 11:54, 6 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
:Sorry to use another user's conversation, but as the subject is the same ... Well, I started creating a [[User:Hikaru_Wazana/Korrina_(anime)|page for Korrina]]. I wanted your opinion, should I continue with it? I think that here I could start making more exclusive pages for the counterparts of some characters, mainly to relieve the space of some "official" pages of some. Because here there are a lot of pages I could gain from this, as the tidy could be more detailed and the main page would stay with only the basics. <br />
:I think the site has a problem that many people prefer to fill the pages of Trivias, but do not put relevant content on the same page. This happens very often on trainer's Pokémon pages ([[Maylene's Lucario]] for example). But even relevant characters went through this, the page of the matriarch of Village of Dragons was almost a summary and did not even have all the character's participation. Bulbapedia could create a stricter rule for placing Trivias on the pages. I mean, it's just a suggestion.--[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 23:19, 7 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
::I agree that some more Gym Leaders might necessitate sub-articles for their anime counterparts and so on and so forth, not just those who accompanied Ash on his journey. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 23:24, 7 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::I think both Cynthia and Korrina are notable for their own article, though I suggest adding something to the "pre-series" section of her page before moving first. <br />
:::As for anime articles for game characters, only if they've played an important role and appeared in more than a few episodes, obviously Surge, Roxanne, and Clay aren't notable for anime articles. If you have any suggestions, you can always start one up in your userpage and the staff will take a look.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 15:27, 8 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
::::Went to mainspace Cynthia, but got this message. You do not have permission to move this page, for the following reason:<br />
::::A page of that name already exists, or the name you have chosen is not valid. Please choose another name.--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 15:41, 8 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
::I did the pre-series section and put content from episodes that were not included in the main article, as you suggested, Force Fire. If someone wants to coordinate efforts and make pages for characters notable enough for the page, I volunteer. I'm already making some Pokés for some characters.--[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 21:04, 8 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
::I have moved both Cynthia and Korrina to the mainspace, though cynthia could do with an introductory paragraph, like the other anime character articles...--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 04:49, 9 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
::::What are the rules for a character to get his own page? I mean, there is one, right?I know some people made a page for Hau, I have one in progress for Steve Stone. I believe that Clair has what is necessary, but it would be good to have an official opinion so that we don't have to make a lot of pages that we don't need. What rules do they use in the manga section? Would Morty, Norman, Roark, Gardenia or Brandon be notable?Sorry about the lot of questions. LOL.--[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 15:04, 10 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::::There isn't a hard notability rule for anime characters as there is for anime Pokemon, though some of the rules there would probably apply. Basically they must appear from more than a few episodes, play an important role in the series, and do more than just battle the main characters. Norman and Brandon could be notable, but not the others you mentioned.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 05:51, 11 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
::::::Created a [[User:BigDocFan/Brandon (anime)|page]] for Brandon, was wondering if you could have a look.--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 08:43, 11 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::::::Both Steven Stone and Brandon are fine to be mainspaced, both played a major role in their series.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 09:53, 12 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
::::::::I personally disagree. We don't need to create such an excessive amount of separate pages. Cynthia and Korrina I can understand, but Steven and Brandon I disagree with. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 18:08, 12 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::Both have played major parts in an arc they appeared in (Regigas arc for Brandon, Mega Evolution arc for Steven), and have done more that just battle. While I do go on and on over quality over quantity, the quality of those pages are fine.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 05:43, 13 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
I added information to Brandon's page, I hope everything is right. Despite that, from now on I will only suggest the page when it is ready, Brandon's page was still far from ready(We still need to find a better image to put in the infobox). The one I'm doing for Steven I'll be letting you know when it's ready to head to the main space.--[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 22:04, 13 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User:Hikaru_Wazana/Clair_(anime)<br />
Hi, I did the first drafts on this page, do you think it is good enough to go to the main space?--[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 20:09, 05 May 2020 (UTC)<br />
:I've brought up that page with the other staff members, as I wasn't sure if Clair had done enough outside of battling to warrant a separate page, and they deemed Clair not notable for an anime specific article.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 12:55, 7 May 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Undoing ==<br />
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I tried to undo an edit on my talkpage but the abuse filter wouldn't let me. --[[User:CaliforniaPokemonGirl623|CaliforniaPokemonGirl623]] ([[User talk:CaliforniaPokemonGirl623|talk]]) 03:30, 9 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
:That usually happens when new users attempt to remove large amounts of information. I've removed the template from your talk page. Again, your talk should not be used as a userpage. The only thing that should be on your talk page, aside form the welcome template, are comments and discussions.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 04:49, 9 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
::Hi [[User:Force Fire|Force Fire]] How many edits (specific number) are needed to get autoconfirmed? --[[User:CaliforniaPokemonGirl623|CaliforniaPokemonGirl623]] ([[User talk:CaliforniaPokemonGirl623|talk]]) 15:38, 9 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::The number is kept secret, even I don't know what the number is. It's kept secret so users don't just make the reuired amount of edits and abandon the mainspace for the userpace.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 05:51, 11 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Blast Burn, etc. ==<br />
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Hey, if I recall I don't think I repeatedly edited the pages for Blast Burn and similar moves to state that they were the Kanto starters' signature moves - I think I only edited each of them once (or possibly twice to correct mistakes). But in any case, before XD was released, the Kanto starters ''were'' the only Pokémon that could learn those moves, similar to Greninja with {{m|Water Shuriken}} before ORAS. They're even listed on the [[signature move]] page as such. Therefore, if they don't qualify as signature moves, then Water Shuriken shouldn't either. --[[User:Darthrai|Darthrai]] ([[User talk:Darthrai|talk]]) 03:40, 9 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
:I checked the history section of Blast Burn and you added it a few years back, which subsequently got reverted. Yes, the Kanto starters were the only one that can learn it, but it didn't ''keep'' it as a signature move for a generation, which is what (one of) the criteria is. I've removed the Greninja line on Water Shuriken.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 04:49, 9 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Dinosaurtime.YT ==<br />
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Hey! It's clear {{user|Dinosaurtime.YT}} is going to continue edit-warring on articles rather than use the talk page. Do something about it? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 00:08, 11 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
:It's just a matter of explaining to him how things work and that he can help in other sections, there are loads of pages that need help.There is no point in creating a problem with this, or to reach the moderator's page with that tone of words.[[User:Hikaru Wazana |Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 00:30, 11 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
::It wouldn't be a problem if the user hadn't immediately gone to the talk page when their edits were contested. Repeated reversions is automatically punished with a block, whether anyone likes it or not. I would know. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 00:33, 11 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::I've given them a message.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 05:51, 11 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
::::Okay, thank you. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 23:19, 12 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
Dinosaurtime.YT - Can i say something? I am not Edit-warring. It am just correcting information that is wrong. Many people seem to think that 1-57 is 52 episodes when it is not, it is 57 episodes. I am merely correcting people who are mistaken and wrong.{{unsigned|Dinosaurtime.YT}}<br />
:You are clearly counting the episodes that never aired in the US. Because while EP001 to EP057 are season one, only 52 of them actually aired in the US (EP018, EP035, EP038, EP052, and EP053 were either banned or aired later).--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 12:51, 13 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
Oh, ok then, i din't know. I just thought it was a typo that had become believed. I made an extra point in the seasons page to correct it and let people know, just in case they didn't know and i apologise for the inconvenience and misconception. {user:Dinosaurtime.YT} {{unsigned|Dinosaurtime.YT}}<br />
:That's not what the dot points are for. The dot points are listing the different definitions of a season. The stuff about irregularities in count can go elsewhere.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 13:12, 13 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
:Where should it go then? In the first section of the page?--[[User:Dinosaurtime.YT|Dinosaurtime.YT]] ([[User talk:Dinosaurtime.YT|talk]]) 13:19, 13 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Mainspacing suggestion ==<br />
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I have a page about [[User:FinnishPokéFan92/Miette's Slurpuff|Miette's Slurpuff]] that's been waiting for a mainspacing decision for years now. Do you think it's notable and complete enough to be mainspaced? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 16:59, 14 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
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:I feel like Miette's Slurpuff hasn't done much outside of performing in Showcases, if I remember correctly. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 00:51, 15 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
::Miette's Slurpuff isn't notable. It didn't do anything major, apart from its debut episode, and every appearance afterwards was just battling/performances.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 05:51, 15 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::...Fine... --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 09:25, 15 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Team Rocket's disguises ==<br />
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I noticed the page on Team Rocket's disguises is written in the present tense, while we typically write in the past tense. Is there a reason for this? Also Butch and Cassidy have used disguises during some of their schemes, should these be included on the [[List of Team Rocket's disguises]] page?[[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 09:54, 17 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
:The wording on that article should be in past tense, yes. As for Butch and Cassidy's disguise, I wouldn't be against it, though you might need to suggest it to others.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 06:11, 18 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
::Not a problem thanks. I'll message BlazingFist to confirm whether Butch and Cassidy's disguises should be added to the page. [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 02:42, 19 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::I've always thought the article should be written in present tense because it's always been that way. My bad, I guess. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 06:45, 20 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
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==Spoiler tags for Lusamine page? Maybe also for Chairman Rose?==<br />
Okay as the both of us know, the wiki still has not tolerated spoilers in the opening paragraph of the [[Lusamine]] page (this may also be a good thing to potentially apply to [[Chairman Rose]].<br />
Last I checked, the original Sun and Moon (the storyline where this fits into) was released approximately 3 - 3.5 years ago. Unowninator suggested spoiler tags, and I think that may be a worthy solution.<br />
What do you think? [[User:Crummymummy|Crummymummy]] ([[User talk:Crummymummy|talk]]) 03:38, 18 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
:It can be mentioned in the story section of her article, with a spoiler tag in the section (though I think the twist already been alluded to anyway), it will not go to the main paragraph as it is too much of a spoiler. It being 3 years after SM has been released means nothing. It's been years since Colosseum and XD were released and their villains have separate pages from their disguised characters.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 06:07, 18 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Sun and Moon Walkthrough edits ==<br />
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Hi, I am a new user here who wants to edit and create walkthroughs. The [[Appendix:Sun and Moon walkthrough/Section 3]] page is essentially a copy and paste of the [[Hau'oli City]] page. When I tried deleting the parts unrelated or out of place in the walkthrough, I found that I couldn't, as it was automatically labeled as vandalism. Do I need to become an autoconfirmed user first, or do I need some other privileges? Thanks for your help. [[User:Mercilessstarfish|Mercilessstarfish]] ([[User talk:Mercilessstarfish|talk]]) 02:32, 19 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
:That normally happens when new users try to remove large amounts of information. You just need to wait a while.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 04:00, 19 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Lickitung's Lick ==<br />
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In 2016, you said on Jessie's Lickitung's talk page that the action of licking does not equal the move Lick. However, the announcer in Lickitung's debut episode clearly refers to the action as "Lick attack", as in "Lick the move". If you ask me, this is just an example of an anime move error than an "improvised" move. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 19:24, 20 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
:I'm aware of what the announcer said, though I do not remember if it was dub added or from the original. I've removed the improved moves template from the page, the template itself having already been removed multiple times before only to be re-added again.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 06:14, 21 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
::Okay. I looked into it, and it turns out that Lickitung's licking wasn't referred to as a move in the Japanese version. So yeah. I stand corrected. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 09:44, 21 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== My edits ==<br />
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Why are you reverting my edits to the Pokémon pages?--[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 04:53, 21 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Do paintings of Pokémon count as anime appearances? ==<br />
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{{U|KnightGalarie}} [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Squirtle_(Pok%C3%A9mon)&diff=0&oldid=3152250 certainly seems to think so]. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 08:48, 22 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
:Paintings are images, right?--[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 08:50, 22 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
::I've been getting mixed signals about that, honestly. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 08:54, 22 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::[[Bulbapedia:Manual of style/Anime#Pokémon appearances and debuts]].--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 09:09, 22 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
::::So the Pokemon Park robots/animatronics don’t count as appearances at all?--[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 09:12, 22 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::::An exception can be made for those as they played a major role in their episode.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 09:49, 22 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
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==May's Ivysaur==<br />
And hey as long as we’ve got you, why is May’s Ivysaur considered a “Major appearance” when her Ivysaur never actually appeared? I brought it up on the Ivysaur talk page but it didn’t get any traction--[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 09:20, 22 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
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:If it has an article and belonged to a main character, then it's automatically a major appearance. The fact that most of its major appearances were spent as a Bulbasaur carried over to its time as an Ivysaur and then a Venusaur (which, if I may recall, didn't appear for too long either). [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 09:21, 22 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
::But Venusaur at least got ''an'' appearance. Ivysaur has zero appearances. It can’t be a major appearance if there’s no appearance to speak of--[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 09:24, 22 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::The section is just more or less stating that May's Bulbasaur eventually evolved into an Ivysaur. It's fine.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 09:49, 22 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== My own block ==<br />
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Hey! I think I might have to be blocked too. I've reverted {{U|KnightGalarie}} so many times on so many different articles that I've lost count. Review my history and see if I've done enough reverts to warrant some sort of block, because I do feel like I've jumped the gun one too many times here. But at this point, I'm too tired to check for myself. Thank you! [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 10:10, 22 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== GalarPony and KnightGalarie ==<br />
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Hey! Call it a far-fetched hunch, but is it possible {{user|GalarPony}} and {{user|KnightGalarie}} could be one and the same person? Not only do their usernames both have "Galar" in it, but both [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:GalarPony#Refusal_to_use_talk_pages GalarPony] and [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:KnightGalarie#Block KnightGalarie] have a bad tendency to edit-war and use edit summaries to make their argument rather than trying to go to the talk page first. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 07:27, 24 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
:Did a check between the two accounts. I've given them a message.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 08:31, 24 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
::I just read your message. Honestly, given the similarities you just described (some of which I hadn't even thought of, honestly), it looks super-suspicious. I'm personally convinced they're the same person, but I suppose GalarPony's multiple IP addresses complicates things for you. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 08:34, 24 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::Whoa, whoa, whoa, how can the issue be [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AKnightGalarie&type=revision&diff=3153995&oldid=3153986 cleared up]? How could KnightGalarie share the same computer details as GalarPony and yet say they created their account on a cellphone? Unless there's something about computers I don't know about (and please feel free to explain it to me if this is the case), this is telling me two possible scenarios:<br />
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:::1) KnightGalarie is GalarPony and created the account with a cellphone, and then used the same computer to make their edits.<br />
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:::2) KnightGalarie and GalarPony are different people who share access to the same computer (which KnightGalarie hadn't exactly confirmed).<br />
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:::I think you should press for some clarification on their explanation, because I'm still suspicious about this. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 21:01, 24 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
::::I don't believe that he is GalarPony. The only thing connecting the two are the matching devices, which isn't that helpful if it is a mobile device. The similar names isn't even a good reason, anyone can use the word "Galar" in their name. Their behaviors, whilst similar, are still circumstantial. In a sense, I decided not to pursue it any further. If you still have concerns, you can bring it up with someone of a higher rank than me.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 04:47, 25 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Cynthia149 ==<br />
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{{user|Cynthia149}} had [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk%3ANew_series&type=revision&diff=3154191&oldid=3154141 this lovely comment] to say at the [[new series]] talk page. Mind giving them a warning? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 21:27, 24 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
:<s>Don't think it's too bad, but I'll leave a response on that talk page.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 04:47, 25 April 2020 (UTC)</s><br />
:Nah, I'll give them a message on their talk page instead.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 04:51, 25 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
::Okay, thank you. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 18:52, 25 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Pokérap backwards ==<br />
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Hello Force Fire, I was browsing through my previous contributions to the Wiki and decided to look at the controversy page, I noticed that the point about the Pokérap had an inadequate source. After doing a search for "Pokérap" and "Satan" I found no first had source, I reckon this could be a myth like Lavender Town and the Vikings wearing horns on their helmets so removed it but you want a discussion so I'm starting one. The point doesn't have a valid source and makes Christians come across as overly paranoid, I don't think this site should allow misconceptions to spread, I mean after all the Lavender Town point isn't on the page which is a similar myth so why should this one?[[User:Great Bear|Great Bear]] ([[User talk:Great Bear|talk]]) 21:53, 4 May 2020 (UTC)<br />
:The Lavender town myth was actually busted. The Pokerap thing hasn't been busted. Does it make Christians look bad? Maybe? But people from other religions have said stuff about the franchise, so Christians saying such things wouldn't be too far off. I've already had a discussion about this with another user years ago, but it most likely happened during the 90s when Pokemon was at the height of its craze. Stuff like this probably wasn't documented at the time, and if it was, most likely died along with the 90s.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 05:29, 5 May 2020 (UTC)<br />
::Your response comes down to "I speculate that it happened even though there's no evidence to support thid from the time, but I think it happened, therefore it must remain". Just because you think it MIGHT have happened doesn't mean it did and if a source died in the 90s we should assume it didn't happen (evidence must exist to confirm something). I think it seems quite a stretch because why would people decide to play specifically the Kanto Pokérap backwards. This is exactly like the Vikings with horned helmets, no account at the time yet believed to have happened because people spread their ideas after the time. Could it not be reworded to remove the piece about Christian fundamentalist, as we have no evidence that they specifically complained about this and instead just say that people (not Christians) have noticed (not complained) that you might be able to hear "I love you Satan" essentially showing that it's a rumour on the internet.[[User:Great Bear|Great Bear]] ([[User talk:Great Bear|talk]]) 11:09, 5 May 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::I will agree with ForceFire on this one. Given that there was a "Satanic Panic" starting in the 1980s and lasting well into the 1990s before it finally stopped for the most part. I would assume that there was a lot of overly zealous christians at the time trying to say ANYTHING they could to get people to stop being fans of the franchise, including making up lyrics and such that they may have heard in the songs when played backwards. The earliest record I could find making mention of this "backmask message" was from a forum thread documented in 2004 where someone asked if others had heard of this rumor before and if they thought they heard the message as well. So while it has been pretty much impossible to find videos or articles where christian folks are flat out stating this, it likely had been stated at one point in time during the late 90s - early 00s before the website was removed. Given most early internet websites were poorly archived, it would likely be impossible to find records of older christian websites making note of it these days. That being said, as youtuber SteveTerreberry has shown, if you try hard enough, you can hear whatever you want out of a song in reverse, even though 99% of the time, there is nothing there in the lyrics anyways. ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|<span style="color:teal">Frozen</span>]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|<span style="color:green">Fennec</span>]]'' 12:30, 5 May 2020 (UTC)<br />
::::I completely disagree, it all boils down to did Christians specifically say that you could hear "I love Satan" in the Pokérap played backwards. The answer is "we don't know, we have no evidence to show that they ever did" and Frozen Fennec saying that it wasn't properly archived is not an excuse, it needs to be proved and saying that it could have happened but we have no evidence is NOT an excuse. Just because they may have complained about other recordings doesn't mean that they did about this one and shows them as overzealous people who complain about a children's entertainment franchise (which really doesn't portray them as good people, and some people might find this unproven information offensive). Force Fire saying that this hasn't been debunked is also not an excuse because you need to prove that something happened, not assume that something happened because of something that appeared on the internet after the time. Finally it's not opinion it's about objectivity and fact and you need information to prove a FACT otherwise it should only belong on speculative forums and not an encyclopedia.[[User:Great Bear|Great Bear]] ([[User talk:Great Bear|talk]]) 14:58, 5 May 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::::Another thing I just thought of is why does it really matter if it remains on the page? If it's removed for being an internet rumour then it will still exist on speculative forums, that I mentioned earlier.[[User:Great Bear|Great Bear]] ([[User talk:Great Bear|talk]]) 15:03, 5 May 2020 (UTC)<br />
::::::I just noticed something else, it says "Some claim" present tense, in other words happening right now. Regardless of everything recently discussed it should be past tense.[[User:Great Bear|Great Bear]] ([[User talk:Great Bear|talk]]) 15:25, 5 May 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== KnightGalarie again ==<br />
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I don't appreciate the tone he's using [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk%3ANew_series&type=revision&diff=3160327&oldid=3160316 here]. I most certainly wasn't lying; I didn't see the first template at first. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 00:14, 6 May 2020 (UTC)<br />
:In what way is this acceptable behavior? The minute you see something you don’t like, your first thought is punishment?--[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 00:21, 6 May 2020 (UTC)<br />
::I'm already on hot water with admins for sending my own warnings to other users, so I'm not taking any chances. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 00:24, 6 May 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::But your first thought was still punishment for saying something you disagreed with. I didn’t call you names--[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 00:25, 6 May 2020 (UTC)<br />
::::You're claiming I lied, which was extremely rude and uncalled for. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 00:26, 6 May 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::::Uncalled for? You stated an easily-provable falsity in your argument. What else was I supposed to think?--[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 00:28, 6 May 2020 (UTC)<br />
::::::Very bold of you to assume I was maliciously lying when I was just distracted by other tabs on my computer at the time. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 00:31, 6 May 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::::::Which is why you acted out of malice by running to an admin after a single occurrence instead of solely talking it out with me--[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 00:32, 6 May 2020 (UTC)<br />
::::::::Because, knowing me, I was going to remind you of certain site rules, which only admins could do. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 00:34, 6 May 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::Rules that weren’t violated--[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 00:35, 6 May 2020 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::Correction, certain user etiquette. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 00:38, 6 May 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::::And yet you still thought you needed an admin to scold me --[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 00:39, 6 May 2020 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::::Because said etiquette is documented in the site rules. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 00:40, 6 May 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Attention: Rillaboom's Biology Section - Please Add Info About Its Drumsticks ==<br />
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Could you please mention where Rillaboom keeps its drumsticks? It appears that they are in the leaf-like fur near its hands (similar to how Delphox keeps its branch in the fur on its arm). <br />
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We know this Pokémon carries its drum on its back, but if we don't mention where it keeps its drumsticks, it would feel incomplete. [[User:Macpika|Macpika]] ([[User talk:Macpika|talk]]) 18:21, 10 May 2020 (UTC)<br />
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==What did I do wrong?==<br />
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I made an edit on the [[move variations]] page about adding [[m|Pika Papow]] and [[m|Veevee Volley]] to the section about [[m|Frustration]]. I edited it and added the detail about the two moves being unable to miss and it was deleted by [[u|KnightGalarie]] for “changing criteria without permission”. I don’t know what I did wrong but is there a way I can fix this so I can add these moves into the page? Or better yet, how can I get permission to change criteria without permission? I just want to be able to do better next time.<br />
[[User:PeakA|PeakA]] ([[User talk:PeakA|talk]]) 23:13, 14 May 2020 (UTC)<br />
:The criteria is in the first line of the article, which you did not change, so you're fine in that regard. In regards to those two moves being variations of Frustration, they are not. A move with 100% accuracy can still miss, where those two moves cannot miss.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 08:16, 15 May 2020 (UTC)<br />
::That’s what it was. Thank you for telling me about this. I am going to make a new section to out these moves in as I am sure they are variations of one another. Thank you for your help. Also someone mentioned for me to take down this question but I said no. Do they have permission to do that? [[User:PeakA|PeakA]] ([[User talk:PeakA|talk]]) 15:39, 15 May 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::No, they don't have permission to tell you to remove this section. I'll send a message their way.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 17:02, 15 May 2020 (UTC)<br />
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==Zeno Robinson/Ray Chase/Cherami Leigh==<br />
With their roles of Goh, Cerise and Chloe being main or major recurring characters, I was wondering if I could mainspace the pages I created for them? [[User:BigDocFan/Zeno Robinson]], [[User:BigDocFan/Ray Chase]] and [[User:BigDocFan/Cherami Leigh]]--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 09:36, 16 May 2020 (UTC)<br />
:I would say yes to all three, only because we know those characters are recurring/main characters.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 10:16, 16 May 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Idol Trainer class ==<br />
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Hello!!<br />
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[[Hibana]] isn't a even a tainer. You removed Idol characters in the anime section who are indeed trainers, idols, and use pokémon from fairy-egg group, such as [[Brittany (EP243)|Brittany]]. If you don't remove Hibana from the Anime section, you should at least add Brittany and [[Marina (Johto)|Marina]] who also are confirmed Idol in the anime. [[User:Jeangabin666|Jeangabin666]] ([[User talk:Jeangabin666|talk]]) 13:52, 16 May 2020 (UTC)<br />
:Hibana is referred to as an Idol. Brittany and Marina existed before the trainer class, so they can't be part of a trainer class that didn't exist at the time of their appearances (and Marina isn't even referred to as an Idol in her DP cameo).--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 14:24, 16 May 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Privacy cleanup ==<br />
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Hi there, just doing some Internet history cleaning for privacy reasons. Would you mind deleting my user page and its page history (and the same for talk, if that's okay), as well as wiping this edit? No need to reply, thanks. --[[user:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] 21:39, 16 May 2020 (UTC)<br />
: For the avoidance of doubt, this is a GDPR Article 17 request for the removal of personal data. --[[User:Poppy Appletree|Poppy Appletree]] ([[User talk:Poppy Appletree|talk]]) 21:51, 16 May 2020 (UTC)</div>
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== Sun2020 ==<br />
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Hey! I have a strong reason to believe {{user|Sun2020}} is yet ''another'' sockpuppet of {{user|Kittystyler}}. Sun2020's writing style for [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Ash_Ketchum&type=revision&diff=3088750&oldid=3088687 this edit] to [[Ash Ketchum]] is extremely reminiscent of Kittystyler's old writing style for [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Ash_Ketchum&type=revision&diff=2955518&oldid=2955392 this edit] to the same article. Do you think you can look into it? Thank you! [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 21:20, 5 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
:Why does Kittystyler refuse to give up? I find these repeated comebacks very tiresome. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 21:25, 5 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
::Because they're a troll, especially considering they refused to even acknowledge the existence of their original talk page when they were still active here. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 21:28, 5 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::They were indeed Kittystyler and have been dealt with.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 05:46, 6 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
::::Okay, thanks! :D [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 07:09, 6 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Archive 10 ==<br />
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I removed the link to an image that doesn't exist on the Archives in the topic I wrote. [[Special:Diff/3090821]] --<span lang="ja">[[User:TheICTLiker4|<span style="color:#333">'''キー'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/TheICTLiker4|<span style="color:#f30">'''A'''</span>]][[User talk:TheICTLiker4|<span style="color:#bbb">'''コン'''</span>]]</span> 10:08, 8 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Template approval ==<br />
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If you have the time, please let me know if {{red link|User:Daniel Carrero/Puzzle}} needs anything to be approved (any change in contents, layout, etc.). If/when possible, I'd like it to be moved back to the template namespace. I also asked about aproving it on Discord, though I'm still waiting to see if anyone will reply there.<br />
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I created that template and used it in these pages:<br />
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* [[List of puzzles (PPL)]]<br />
* [[List of puzzles (PPC)]]<br />
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--[[User:Daniel Carrero|Daniel Carrero]] ([[User talk:Daniel Carrero|talk]]) 16:30, 8 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
:I think asking staff who has more knowledge on the side games would give a better opinion.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 05:57, 10 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Pseudo-legendary ==<br />
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Hi Force Fire, thanks for adding Dragapult to the [[Pseudo-legendary Pokémon]] article (which I requested on Discord since I don't have edit access). The box for Dragapult is bigger than the other boxes in the first section, though. [[User:Qzekrom|Qzekrom]] ([[User talk:Qzekrom|talk]]) 18:55, 9 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
:You're welcome. I'm aware that the Dragapult image is large, I did try to resize it to make it smaller (as to make the template even with the others) but felt that it made the image look too small and unidentifiable, so I just left it as is.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 05:57, 10 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
:: Is there a way make it smaller for the section that shows all [[Pseudo-legendary Pokémon]] together? It jsut getting clutter up and hard to see them all.--[[User:Jacob9594|Jacob Kogan]] ([[User talk:Jacob9594|talk]]) 05:59, 10 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::That's the section I was talking about. Felt that making the Dragapult image smaller made the image unidentifiable.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 06:05, 10 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Two things ==<br />
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# Why did you revert me at those pages about types?<br />
# I'm still waiting for approval of these pages:<br />
#* [[User:TheICTLiker4/E O]]<br />
#* [[User:TheICTLiker4/Template:NewMove]]<br />
Please respond quickly. --<span lang="ja">[[User:TheICTLiker4|<span style="color:#333">'''TheI'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/TheICTLiker4|<span style="color:#f30">'''CTLi'''</span>]][[User talk:TheICTLiker4|<span style="color:#bbb">'''ker4'''</span>]]</span> 08:30, 12 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
:#Mass updates involving multiple article must be approved by a staff member. You can't just do as you please.<br />
:#None of those are up to standards, especially the latter.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 09:09, 12 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
::#Okay. I will follow this rule, even while moving pages.<br />
::#Both pages are marked for mainspacing, and they're awaiting approval. “[...] especially the latter” — you are wrong, as some content is hidden by &lt;includeonly&gt; because if not, the page would be in categories reserved for move pages, and [[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] has fixed that. --<span lang="ja">[[User:TheICTLiker4|<span style="color:#333">'''TheI'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/TheICTLiker4|<span style="color:#f30">'''CTLi'''</span>]][[User talk:TheICTLiker4|<span style="color:#bbb">'''ker4'''</span>]]</span> 18:58, 13 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::Granted I didn't really look at the coding and just saw the template as is and thought that it looked incomplete and far too different to that actual "NewX" templates that we have.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 01:48, 14 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
::::But what about the first page I listed in this subject ([[User:TheICTLiker4/E O]])? --<span lang="ja">[[User:TheICTLiker4|<span style="color:#333">'''TheI'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/TheICTLiker4|<span style="color:#f30">'''CTLi'''</span>]][[User talk:TheICTLiker4|<span style="color:#bbb">'''ker4'''</span>]]</span> 20:00, 14 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== What's the point? ==<br />
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Why did you revert my episode title changes? SM003 is CLEARLY a pun, that's not difficult to see at all. We've added pun titles before. So why not now? And the others were put in the correct order of the Japanese title (not the translations of them) and added with words that needed to be added, like "region", when region is clearly in the title and has been included in other episode titles that had the Japanese characters for the word "region" in them before? Why stop now? We don't NEED to rely off translations from people over at Serebii. Other people CAN add titles as well. If there's a problem with them, at the very least explain why, I'm so annoyed with you being angry at me. [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]]) 09:43, 12 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
:And I've done nothing wrong to deserve this from just a single admin. [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]]) 09:45, 12 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
::I rolled back your edit on the episode list article based off your SM003 edit. The other changes, while questionable, were fine. As for SM003, as we discussed before, not everything is a pun. "Fushigi da ne" can be an actual phrase. Just because "fushigi" is in the title, doesn't automatically make it a pun.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 10:01, 12 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Template edit request ==<br />
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Given the fact that Go is on a pretty constant catching spree, should the category for episodes in which a main character obtains a new Pokémon be included in the new episode template? Kinda like how the category for Mythical Pokémon appearances was included in it while Ash had Meltan/Melmetal in his active team? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 15:24, 12 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
:I've brought up the suggestion with the other staff members.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 16:43, 12 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
::Having the category there before the episode airs is a bit assumptious, especially if said episode isn't an episode where Go catches anything. So the category is not going in the template.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 06:23, 13 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Noise Reduction on Gen 8 Pokemon images ==<br />
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I've done some easy experimenting with noise reduction on the grainy Pokemon images in photoshop, with much improved quality. Was wondering if there was any reason this hasn't been done already. [[User:Lanthanum|Lanthanum]] ([[User talk:Lanthanum|talk]]) 05:42, 15 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Pichu Posse members ==<br />
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Dear ForceFire,<br />
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I've been in the process of reviewing the appearances of the Pichu Brothers and their associates in the anime. However I noticed there were some Pokémon listed on the Pichu Brothers page as members of the Posse who wouldn't fit the description of being a "friend" and are simply recurring wild Pokémon such as Snorlax, Houndour and the Squirtle Squad. Feraligatr and Murkrow other recurring wild Pokémon, that are yet to have a mention anywhere, however their appearances are brief like the others. Should they have separate sections on the [[Recurring wild Pokémon in the anime]] page or should all the recurring Big Town Pokémon be listed on one page with the subsections "Pichu Brothers", "Pichu Posse" and "Other Big Town Pokémon"? Regards, [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 13:41, 16 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Why did you undo my Wedgehurst edit? ==<br />
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[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Wedgehurst&diff=3097122&oldid=3097003 You didn't even leave a reason why.]] [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 17:05, 16 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
:It's not notable. The other trainers "not noticing the Slowpoke" isn't notable either. The nurse knowing it isn't suppose to be some in-universe thing. Just like the bulletin boards in Black and White announcing the Pokemon outbreaks, it's not meant to be an in-universe thing where everyone in that universe knows about the outbreak (I don't recall other NPC characters commenting on the B/W outbreaks).--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 12:25, 17 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Origins Corrections ==<br />
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Hello! I am new to bulbapedia and I saw you reverted some of my changes to the verb conjugation implying uncertainty in two different articles. You mentioned that I would be allowed to do this in the future in the case that I have an official source. What constitutes an official source in this case? I ask because I would be willing to write to someone (maybe a developer?) in order to get confirmation but I do not wish to do this if it is unlikely written confirmation would not count as an official source. Are interviews with developers acceptable? Ideally, if you could link me to some sort of list that includes examples of acceptable sources that would be very helpful for me. Thank you for your time. [[User:DeterministicSpaceRichard|DeterministicSpaceRichard]] ([[User talk:DeterministicSpaceRichard|talk]])<br />
:An interview with the original Japanese (or Western, in James Turner's case) designer is the absolute source. An example would be the interview with Pikachu's designer where she revealed its origin. We don't have a list because interviews with the designers regarding Pokemon origins are scarce.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 04:54, 18 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== why did you revert my edit? ==<br />
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I'm completely new to editing this wiki and was wondering why you [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Ponyta_(Pok%C3%A9mon)&diff=3097546&oldid=3097545 undid my first edit]? You didn't leave a reason in the reversion's edit summary and I didn't think my edit was "bad". Is there some policy about the trivia/name origin section I don't know about? {{unsigned|Twisted Code}}<br />
:I had already removed that previously, as I felt that it was not really necessary to point out.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 05:28, 20 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
::By that standard, what makes anything else on this wiki "necessary", especially stuff in the trivia section? I don't really understand the line you're drawing, as it seems like it could go either way. Then again, I'm new here so what do I know?¯\_(ツ)_/¯--[[User:Twisted Code|Twisted Code]] ([[User talk:Twisted Code|talk]]) 18:33, 20 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::If you don't mind me inserting myself, I think that that's a worthy trivia point. I didn't realize it until reading it here. It's the exact kind of thing I'd expect to see in a trivia section. --[[User:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#00A1E9">cela</span><span style="color:#BF004F">donk</span>]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 19:31, 20 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
::::Trivia point, sure. Just don't think it's worth pointing out in the name origin section as the line before already conveys what is being said well enough without trying to be witty.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 07:32, 21 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::::maybe we could move the "based on a unicorn" trivia point altogether then? Seems that point being in *specifically* the name origin subsection is the issue. I'd like to point out the pun one way or another, as I thought it was a clever quip from the developers.--[[User:Twisted Code|Twisted Code]] ([[User talk:Twisted Code|talk]]) 13:46, 21 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
::::::Uh... no. That line is meant to be in the origins sections as it's detailing what Galarian Ponyta might be based off. The extra bit about "unique horn" isn't necessary.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 06:38, 22 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::::::... And "unique horn" supports that point that it "might be" based on a unicorn. I don't see what the big deal is here, or why one piece of trivia is more "necessary" than any other piece? Is there some sort of rule against acknowledging puns (even to support another point) or something? --[[User:Twisted Code|Twisted Code]] ([[User talk:Twisted Code|talk]]) 13:21, 26 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::::::After a bit of thought and reading [[WP:WP:WIN|one of Wikipedia's (a.k.a. the mother of all wikis or "MOAW") policies concerning impasses like this]], I've decided I'm willing to just leave it go. Mostly because I know you're an admin and I don't feel like challenging the "staff won't bite" claim in the [[template:welcome]] message, but also because this impasse is such an enigma to me that it doesn't feel worthwhile trying to understand it — especially in light of the policy I mentioned (which presumably also applies to any wiki created in the same spirit of collaboration). That said, please register and take into account my STRONG objection to your decision in this matter, and on that note, have a nice day :-)--[[User:Twisted Code|Twisted Code]] ([[User talk:Twisted Code|talk]]) 22:43, 2 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
::::::::Apologies for the late response. It saying that Galarian Ponyta might be based of a Unicorn is suffice enough, without the need to be witty or smart. Like I said, if anything, the pun goes in the main trivia section, not the name origin section. As for the Wikipedia policy, we are not Wikipedia. We do not share the same rules or guidelines (well, we might share some, but not all, and definitely not that one).--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 04:32, 3 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::I accept that explanation, though I'm struggling slightly to reconcile it with my original thinking (though in any case, my initial question is settled). As for the thing about Wikipedia: yes I realize this is not Wikipedia, nor is it a project belonging to Wikimedia; what I meant by what I said was that, as both wikis are, by nature, collaborative projects and that policy is conducive to cooperation, I felt it could be applicable here, not that it would actually be enforced because, as you said, this isn't Wikipedia. Sorry about that, I should've been more clear.--[[User:Twisted Code|Twisted Code]] ([[User talk:Twisted Code|talk]]) 19:10, 3 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Sobble's Origin for Trivia Section ==<br />
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We know Sobble is based on a chameleon and it says that's it's Water-typing is based on the basilisk lizard, but here's another thing you could add which makes a lot of sense (like how it also connects to water). Below are the reasons/facts and links.<br />
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Because of its color scheme and type, Sobble could be based on the Veiled chameleon. Even though it's not aquatic, it has a special adaption to collect water in its habitat where there is little water. This species of chameleon has a casque (the helmet-like protrusion on top of its head) that collects water. At night, droplets of moisture roll down the casque and into the chameleon's mouth. <br />
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The way the droplets flow down the Veiled chameleon's face could give the illusion that it's crying which could explain the teardrop markings on Sobble's face. The adult males of this species have defined bands of blue and yellow. Those two colors are part of Sobble's color scheme. <br />
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Here are the links for more information: https://animals.sandiegozoo.org/animals/chameleon (As you scroll down, start reading where is says "A water-catching casque.") https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veiled_chameleon <br />
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Here is a picture of the adult male Veiled chameleon: https://flchams.com/chameleon/adult-veiled-chameleons-for-sale/ [[User:Macpika|Macpika]] ([[User talk:Macpika|talk]]) 04:02, 23 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
:Its behavior and appearance is similar enough, you can add it if you want to, just remember to use "may be based off" or "appears to be based off" rather than "is based off", since it's still speculation.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 05:11, 23 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Adding Tabs ==<br />
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ForceFire,<br />
How do I add tabs to pages? I want to add a trivia tab to a move page, [[G-Max Wind Rage]]. How do I do that?<br />
[[User:PeakA|PeakA]] ([[User talk:PeakA|talk]]) 18:33, 24 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== How is that correct? ==<br />
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[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Chandelure_(Pok%C3%A9mon)&curid=115955&diff=3102742&oldid=3102717] Isn't it pronounced "home-ige"? Thus it should be "a" instead of "an". [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 16:20, 25 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
:You need to google how to pronounce it. It comes in two English-speaking flavors and isn't worth making a change for. [[User:ArcToraphim|Kai]] * the [[User talk:ArcToraphim|Arc]] [[Special:Contributions/ArcToraphim|Toraph]] 17:02, 25 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
::Sorry if I'm being a pest, but the first result I found is literally "hom·age". [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 17:09, 25 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::And underneath that is how to pronounce it. "/ˈ(h)ämij/" [https://www.google.com/search?q=homage+pronunciation&oq=homage+&aqs=chrome.0.69i59l3j69i57j0j69i60l3.3435j1j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 The h is in parentheses for a reason.] If you straight up google 'herb' like you did with homage, you'll get the same thing, even tho we don't say the 'h' at all. [[User:ArcToraphim|Kai]] * the [[User talk:ArcToraphim|Arc]] [[Special:Contributions/ArcToraphim|Toraph]] 17:28, 25 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::::I think you picked a poor example, because everyone I hear that says "herb" uses the "h". However, it's clear I'm not going to make any progress talking about this, so you'll probably be happy to know that I give up. [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 17:40, 25 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Question ==<br />
Do you believe that Ōkido (オーキド) means anything in Japanese? [[User:Wc12271991|Wc12271991]] ([[User talk:Wc12271991|talk]]) 22:19, 25 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Pseudo-legendary Pokémon ==<br />
Now that Ash has captured a Dragonite, can you unlock the Pseudo-legendary Pokémon page so I can add that information to it, please? [[User:Seabiscuit2020|Seabiscuit2020]] ([[User talk:Seabiscuit2020|talk]]) 17:40, 26 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
:The pseudo legendary page is '''never''' getting unprotected. If an edit needs to be made, request it on the talk page of the article or go to an admin.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 04:02, 27 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Vandal ==<br />
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We have a vandal on the loose. Could you or some other admin do something about them? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 18:46, 27 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
:Never mind. They were just dealt with. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 18:46, 27 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== New page ==<br />
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Thank you,ForceFire for helping me out in the talk. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 14:25, 29 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Split ==<br />
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Could the Wyndon Stadium article be split to have a subpage for the Champion tournaments the same way as "Pokémon League (Alola)" was split to have a separate subpage for Title Defense? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 17:41, 29 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
:I've brought the suggestion up to the others. I personally wouldn't mind it being split, since the page is already large.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 05:14, 30 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
::Thank you. Please let me know when a decision is made. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:55, 30 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Recurring definition? ==<br />
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I'm confused. Please explain why {{MTR}} was removed from the recurring wild Pokémon in the anime page? I agree that he is a main character, however he is also a wild Pokémon that has been featured in than one episode, meeting the recurring wild Pokémon criteria. Recurring means just that occurring again. [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 13:52, 1 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
:Meowth doesn't appear every now and then, he appears in every episode (bar B/W, but that has already come and gone), which is the direct opposite of being recurring.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 16:05, 1 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
::Speaking of other things not meeting the criteria … the list of Ash's temporary traveling companions has some questionable additions. <br />
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::Ritchie was simply encountered and is listed even though his appearances over three episodes was part of the Team Rocket-Lugia arc, plus Oliver and Luka who appeared during the same period are not.<br />
::Zoey, while she appeared across multiple episodes in Snowpoint City, she simply met up with the group rather than traveled with them. <br />
::Dia is another questionable addition, and while he appeared in two episodes, it was only while Ash was in the alternate dimension. Your thoughts? [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 23:21, 1 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::Can Mewtwo of the original series be added? It appeared in two main episodes and multiple specials. [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 08:36, 2 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::Zeraora matches the definition of a recurring wild Pokémon: a wild Pokémon that appears in more than one episode and has some enough notable sort of involvement in the plot. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 08:46, 2 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
::::I'm not sure if there is a criteria for Ash's temporary travelling companions, but I think the idea should be if they're with Ash for more than three episodes and travel from place to place, they should be added. Which I guess would discount Dia. Get second opinions.<br />
::::I'm not sure if major movie characters count? I know there's Slowking there, but it doesn't play a major role in its movie. As for Zeraora, I think it comes down to how many episode appearances counts as "recurring". I don't think Zeroara as much as most of the Pokemon on the recurring article.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 10:05, 2 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::::I've sought a second opinion. Thanks for the replies on today's queries. [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 10:55, 2 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== BW058? ==<br />
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I saw the change made to BW058. However I based those additions on the fact that Gym Leader's Pokémon evolving like [[Roark's Cranidos]] has been listed in the past, plus Chili is a recurring character and also the brother of Cilan. {{unsigned|PardescanSlowbro}}<br />
:Roark's Cranidos evolving is notable as it effects Ash's battle with him. The additions you made to BW058 weren't that major and didn't need to be elaborated on.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 09:54, 2 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Upload problem ==<br />
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I belong to the autoconfirmed members group and recently created my userpage. I can't upload any images and it denied permission saying I must be autoconfirmed. Please look into this issue and I also have have a lot of images from the new series, that I want to upload!! [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 11:27, 2 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
:Image uploading is done over at the [https://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Main_Page Archives], and you have to be autconfirmed over there. Autoconfirmation on the archives is separate than on Bulbapedia. So you have to make some edits on the Archives to become autoconfirmed.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 12:40, 2 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
Thank you ForceFire for your advice --[[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 15:37, 3 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
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I have a doubt,is there any colour difference between Ash's Pikachu in the Japanese and English dub of the pokémon anime? Can you please say something about it! --[[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 15:39, 3 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== About Dinamax/Gigantamax in the anime ==<br />
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When a Poké evolves, here it usually says "x took y episodes to evolve" or something. How will you do with Pokémon that reach that level?For example, I'm doing a Gyarados'page for Lance. I put something like Lance's Gyarados took xxx episodes to dinamax (is that the name we should put?)? Where is this kind of information going to be? In the box with the animal's information?Are there any rules or tutorials already done explaining this? I really appreciate it if you can help me.--[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hilaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 13:54, 02 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
:That's probably not going to be noted in the infobox, we don't note "how long" it took for a Pokemon to Mega Evolve. If anything, that goes into the main history section of the article.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 15:24, 2 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
::Thank you--[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hilaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 16:08, 02 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Champion ==<br />
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Lance was mentioned as the Indigo league champion in the preview of SS012. But, the trivia of SS012 has a edit that says he lost his championship somewhere in the middle of the anime. Is it right? --[[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 16:30, 4 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
:Please answer my question quickly [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 14:10, 6 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
::Trivia has since been removed as it needs to be verified if he states that he's an Elite Four member in the original Japanese version.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 14:15, 6 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
I'm sorry about that, actually Lance is mentioned as the member of Kanto Elite four by Go in the preview. I checked it and undid the edit in SS012. Hope you wouldn't mind about the undo and thank you, ForceFire. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 14:20, 6 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
:I've found Japanese sources describing [[AG097]] that describe Lance as an Elite Four member in his Hoenn appearance as well. He indeed hasn't been referred to as a Champion since the Johto era of the anime. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 14:50, 6 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
::Dhiwakar, please don't add back the trivia until the problem has been resolved. Finnish, if someone can find the Japanese episode and confirm it, I think that would be solid evidence.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 17:02, 6 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
: Okay ForceFire, I assure you I would not add it in the trivia until it is solved. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 17:09, 6 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
: If you don't mind, I shall ask something. Lance was mentioned as the member of Kanto Elite four in the preview of SS012. Isn't it enough to solve the problem? [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 16:54, 7 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
::I'm afraid you're missing the point here. We're trying to solve if he was referred to as an Elite Four members Pokémon in [[AG097]], because that affects the piece of trivia you're wanting to add to SM012. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 17:02, 7 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
: I get it now,thank you FinnishPokéFan92. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 05:45, 8 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Question, out of curiosity ==<br />
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When you customize a signature, does that affect signatures that have been already submitted ''before'' said customization? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 09:08, 5 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
:No. The new signatures comes into affect after you've changed it.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 09:29, 5 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
::Okay, thanks. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 09:38, 5 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Delete, please ==<br />
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I recently moved Porygon's evolution category, following its Evolution item's new formatting. Could you delete the unnecessary redirect that was formed in the process? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 12:48, 5 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
:Done.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 13:02, 5 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
::Now I've moved the category for Elite Four members' Pokémon to remove an unnecessary uppercase "M". Could you remove the redirect? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 13:23, 12 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::Done.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 05:01, 13 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Colour difference ==<br />
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Is thre any difference between Ash's Pikachu in the Japanese and English dub of the anime. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 14:40, 6 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
:Please answer this question, ForceFire. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 13:53, 7 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
::Not too sure what you mean here. Could be a number of factors.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 06:45, 8 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
Sorry about that, i forgot to mention the word colour inthe above question. It was actually, " Is there any colour difference between Ash's Pikachu in the Japanese and English dub of the anime?". [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 08:37, 8 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
:Not that I'm aware of.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 12:31, 8 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
Thank you ForceFire. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 14:20, 8 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Debut uncertainty ==<br />
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For movie 22, should cases like Gary's Pokémon on his page or Mewtwo on Viridian Gym's page have their debut appearances listed to be their main series debuts or M22? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 16:44, 7 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
:Whichever one aired first in Japan. M01 (I believe aired first before EP063). Not M22.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 06:45, 8 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== User page ==<br />
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I want to move the usertag box to the right corner of my page. But I don't know how to do it. Can you please help with this!I won't edit it if you say it today itself,because I have already done three edits in my userpage!! [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 09:53, 8 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
:The code containing the tags should go above everything.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 12:31, 8 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
I can't understand completely, can you show me a pic of it, please. Thank you ForceFire. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 14:20, 8 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
:The table containing all your usertags should be placed '''above''' the first section. I.e. just swap the placement of your sections around.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 14:58, 8 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
Can you see if have done it correctly, unfortunately I have wasted my edits and unable to delete the excess points and thank you, ForceFire. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 05:30, 9 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
:It's fine.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 07:03, 9 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
: Thanks a lot, ForceFire. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 09:42, 9 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Dynamax ==<br />
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Isn't Pikachu Dynamaxing without going into it's pokéball, important? If it is too specific,it is notable right? I also have an intuition, that it has something to do with Eternatus. Moreover, it is supposed to go into the trivia. Thank you, ForceFire [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 13:12, 10 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
:No, it isn't notable. It doesn't matter whether Pikachu returned to his Poke Ball or not.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 07:31, 11 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
Thanks again, ForceFire. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 13:54, 11 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Magearna ==<br />
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Pokémon HOME reveals that Shiny Magearna doesn't have any paint on it, like the Magearna from the Sun & Moon series. Should it be considered a Shiny Magearna in the light of this new information? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 13:44, 13 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
:I would think so, if it's the most recent design of the Shiny form.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 04:40, 14 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
::It is. [https://66.media.tumblr.com/4870664d714ac276fbb98e9a9d72afb8/eec1975ebfa88305-2d/s540x810/0258c33075f759d2fd334cceb64a1dd429db6f86.png Here] is an image I found of the Shiny Magearna Sprite from HOME, while [[:File:Mohn Magearna.png|here]] in an image of the S&M series Magearna. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 08:25, 14 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::Based on those images, do I have your permission to classify Magearna as a Shiny in the anime? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 15:37, 15 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
::::I'd say it's fine to classify it as a Shiny form of Magearna.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 16:21, 15 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::::Thank you. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 13:58, 17 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Ash's Dynamax Band ==<br />
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Ash doesn't seem to wear the Dynamax band, continuously like the Z-Ring in the new series. Is it to be noted in the major events of SS014. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 15:00, 17 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
:No. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 15:19, 17 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
:Ash not wearing his Z-Ring anymore wasn't a major event. And it's likely he'll just wear it when he's in Galar and can actually use it. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 15:20, 17 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
I wasn't asking about the Z-Ring. I just wanted to ask about the Dynamax Band, whether not wearing it continuously must be noted, if not in major events atleast in trivia! Hope you understand. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 16:13, 17 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
:I used Z-Ring as a comparison. And him not continuously wearing it is definitely not major event worthy. Not sure about trivia worthiness either, but we'll see. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 16:16, 17 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
Thank you, FinnishPokéFan [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 13:46, 18 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
:Sorry about that edit, ForceFire. I added it because FinnishPokéFan92 was not sure about trivia worthiness,also I didn't do it on purpose. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 14:02, 23 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Help me ==<br />
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I am getting a blank of space in my userpage. How can remove it? If you want a clear picture of my query,see my userpage. Thank you, ForceFire. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 17:28, 19 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
:It's because the Ash's Pokemon template is stretching the page due to it's size.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 01:35, 20 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
:: It was there before adding the template. How to clear it? I see there is no space in your page,eve though you usertags. Thank you,ForceFire. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 13:42, 20 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::There's always going to be whitespace on your userpage because their are things stretching the page, the template or the usertags prior to you adding the template. If you want to get rid of the whitespace, you can use the "expandable" tags to hide the templates or usertages so there's less whitespace.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 15:15, 21 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
Thank you so much, ForceFire. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 13:45, 22 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Deleting sandbox article ==<br />
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Hey! It's been a while. I created [[User:GrammarFreak01/Pikachu in a cap|a sandbox article]] for the [[Pikachu in a cap]] article, but it seems someone's already beat me to the punch. Mind deleting it for me, please? Thanks! [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 10:12, 20 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
:Done.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 12:57, 20 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
::Thank you. :) [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 11:24, 23 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Minor disagreement ==<br />
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In SS013, Ash loses a battle for the first time in 54 episodes, a rarely and possibly even never before seen long streak for him. I think this should be noted in the episode's trivia section, but GrammarFreak01 disagrees, saying it's not notable. What's your opinion? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 16:27, 23 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
:You should've made it clear that 54 episodes was the longest period of time Ash has gone without a loss in the anime, because I did not know this. I'll restore the edit with the necessary addendum. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 23:37, 23 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
::I did not say that because I wasn't sure. I only figured it was notably long. And I may have just discovered an even longer lossless period for him from the XY series (from XY036 to XY106). --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 14:47, 24 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== RedneckAnimeGeek ==<br />
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{{user|RedneckAnimeGeek}} has made excessively many edits on Hop and Leon's pages. I tried to notify them on their talk page to use the preview button and lessen the amount of their edits, but their actions did not change. Could you help? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 20:46, 23 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== GaOlé ==<br />
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https://postimg.cc/gallery/ikii6jsa/<br />
Hello, can these images be placed on Archives and consequently placed on the pages of the respective characters?They are from the Ga Olé game with the theme of the new anime series.[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 12:15, 24 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Reinhartmax's categories ==<br />
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{{user|Reinhartmax}} has just created categories for Trainers with giant, Fossil, and baby Pokémon. I personally can see the notability in the first one and maybe in the second one, but not really in the last one. What's your opinion? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 22:11, 25 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
:I don't think all three are notable. I've brought it up to the staff, and gave Reinhartmax a message to cease making more categories.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 05:32, 26 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
::Thank you. I won't mind if all three of them were removed, so no objections there. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:38, 26 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::Has the staff made a decision yet? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 19:51, 4 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
::::Not yet. It got put off to the side for other things.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 04:19, 5 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::::Is this subject still waiting to be solved? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 20:27, 13 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
::::::Can those categories be removed? Has a decision been reached yet? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 20:08, 5 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::::::Hello? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 11:05, 21 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
::::::::Discussions regarding this has kinda stalled. Though I think it's rather clear that they aren't needed. I'll be deleting them in a bit.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 12:37, 21 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::Thank you. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 14:25, 21 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Process for reporting an admin ==<br />
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Hey! Is there a formal process to report an admin for shirking their duties? [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:Ataro#Iris_edit I've been trying] [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:Ataro#Iris_edit.2C_continued for months] to talk with {{U|Ataro}} about an editing style that I strongly disagree with, which led to what I believe to be an unnecessary three-day block on my end. Ataro [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AAtaro&type=revision&diff=3032795&oldid=3031944 responded], and this was [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AAtaro&type=revision&diff=3032886&oldid=3032814 my response]. For months, I haven't received another response from them. I am led to believe Ataro is ignoring me on purpose because [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AAtaro&type=revision&diff=3068489&oldid=3068474 they] [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AAtaro&type=revision&diff=3068499&oldid=3068496 have] [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AAtaro&type=revision&diff=3107287&oldid=3107274 responded] to other talk page messages, but not mine. They have also been active many times since that initial response, so it would've been absolutely difficult for them not to see all the talk page notifications that were sent by my many attempts to contact them.<br />
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I find it hard to believe they were unaware of all of that. If there was supposed to be another, more appropriate way to reach them, then my apologies; I didn't know. But nevertheless, I find it absolutely disgusting that this admin would engage in such selective behavior. Trying to contact them even before they initially responded was an extremely tedious debacle, and by this point, I am absolutely done with their conduct. I'd like to see if there's a formal procedure to address this. Thank you. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 11:05, 27 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
:If you have a concern about a staff member ignoring you, you can bring it up to either the Editor in Chief (Kogoro) or the Deputy Editor in Chief (Pokemaster97).--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 13:17, 27 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
::Thank you. :) [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 08:48, 28 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Explain. ==<br />
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Hello, why is it that you removed my Shadow Lugia base stats from the Shadow Lugia page? Those were the real base stats so they had no reason to be changed. Email me at JonahLeeWalker.123@gmail.com with your reply. {{unsigned|Gamer PROJonah}}<br />
:It was improperly formatted. See how the base stats on other articles are done.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 04:22, 28 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Vandal alert ==<br />
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It looks like {{user|Justin Bibarel}} is going to be nothing but a vandal. Take care of it? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 01:34, 1 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
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:Never mind, {{U|SnorlaxMonster}} took care of it. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 01:41, 1 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== SS017 ==<br />
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Is the title of SS017 is "Something happens to Hibanny". I saw the news about this in Twitter. So, I want you confirm the truthness of this fact. Because I can't edit unless I have proof about it,right! [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 09:04, 1 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
:Hi,ForceFire please answer my question! Thank you. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 04:17, 4 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
::Where did you get the title from?--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 06:03, 4 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
::: I'm not completely sure about the title. I saw it in #anipoke in twitter. Hence, I asked you if you're aware of it. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 08:24, 4 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
::::A simple Twitter hashtag is not a reliable source. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 08:30, 4 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
::::: I'm not trying to prove my fact,I was just confirming it here. Also,it is the official hashtag of the Pokémon anime. The tweets may not be reliable, I accept. Hope you understand my point of view GrammarFreak01. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 15:24, 4 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::::: Don't worry about it,since we got the title. Thank you ForceFire. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 03:50, 6 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Gary's Journey ==<br />
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Hi, please, I wanted to understand why the change was reversed with Gary's page. Why no other human character has the separation between Kanto / Johto / Hoenn or anything like that anymore. The marking says "Orange Islands", but Gary was never said to have been on the islands. And the page is about Gary's point of view, isn't it? What's the point of keeping that with Gary only?Shouldn't that be standard for everyone?[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 15:17, 2 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
:Could've sworn we also split the history sections of human characters too, but that doesn't seem to be the case. I've reverted myself.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 15:34, 2 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== List of references to Pokémon in popular culture edit ==<br />
Hello there. May I ask as to why you have deleted my writing on [[Difference between revisions of "List of references to Pokémon in popular culture"|this page]]? If you would have given me some more time, I would have fixed up my own work, rather than someone else deleting it. Could you please explain as to why you have deleted this specific section? I recognise that some of my information is incorrect, and I would have fixed it up myself. If there is an alternate section where you want me to put it under, I will be more than happy to do this change. Thank you for taking the time to read this, and I hope you recosider your reversion. [[User:BlueDecoRoller|BlueDecoRoller]] ([[User talk:BlueDecoRoller|talk]]) 01:31, 4 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
:As I said in my edit summary, passing mentions are not notable. It has to be more than just a namedrop.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 06:03, 4 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
::As an alternative, could I add my information [[List of background references to Pokémon|here instead]]? I could create a new section for Books, comics and Manga, and put it in there, along with a stub. What do you think? If you approve, I should have it done by 06:00 03/05/20 (UTC). Hopefully. [[User:BlueDecoRoller|BlueDecoRoller]] ([[User talk:BlueDecoRoller|talk]]) 21:51, 4 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::It's fine there.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 04:19, 5 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
::::All fixed. Thank you for clarifying as to where I should put it.[[User:BlueDecoRoller|BlueDecoRoller]] ([[User talk:BlueDecoRoller|talk]]) 06:34, 5 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Focus on Ash ==<br />
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Isn't [[SS013]] an episode focusing on Ash. I don't know how to add it in the Category: Episodes focusing on Ash. If it is an episode focusing on Ash,could you add it in the category for me, ForceFire! [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 08:26, 4 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
:Not really.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 04:19, 5 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
:: Thank you, ForceFire. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 15:00, 5 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Appearance info for Series-exclusive Recurring Characters: ==<br />
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Hello,<br />
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I wish to clarify whether all appearances for recurring characters in a particular series should be documented. This comes in the wake of GrammarFreak01 restoring deletions made to [[Abe]], [[Sarah and Harper]] and [[Anela]]'s pages of otherwise unimportant or minor appearances, plus Poké Problem scenes which have little to do with the respective episode plots. As such I'd prefer for these changes to be reverted to make for a succinct article. [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 09:15, 5 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
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:I disagree with making articles such as those succinct. It needs material to fill it up, otherwise it'll be painfully short. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 09:16, 5 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
::Only major appearances should be noted, if they didn't do much and was simply a background character, then it's not notable. And the Poke Problem segments are clearly not notable at all. It doesn't matter if it's too short, Reggie has appeared quite a few times and his article isn't that long. Quality over quantity.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 12:22, 5 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::Thank you for the clarification. [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 12:48, 5 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
::::So would this have to apply to ''every'' recurring character article, including those who only had major roles in just two episodes like [[Savannah]] and [[Sandra]]? If not, what's exactly the limit? Which recurring character articles have to be succinct and which ones don't have to be? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 09:13, 8 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::::If they contributed to the plot of the episode, then it's notable. And it counts for every recurring character, it doesn't matter of one page is longer than the other. That's simply not a problem.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 09:38, 8 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
::::::GrammarFreak01, the examples you gave were deliberate cameos, which are different from background appearances of the examples I explained. [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 09:42, 8 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::::::Allow me to rephrase, then: is the mention of cameos and flashbacks notable for all recurring characters' histories, or not? That's among the material that's being contested in [[Abe]] and [[Sarah and Harper]]. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 09:46, 8 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
::::::::If they are important cameos or flashbacks.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 09:50, 8 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::How so? Examples? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 09:52, 8 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::If they are important to the plot of the episode, then it's notable. If they didn't do anything at all, then it's not notable..--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 09:57, 8 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::::Okay, gotcha. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 10:00, 8 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== The trivia ==<br />
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The music from the trailer of the new series was used in [[SS014]],when the egg containing the Golurk emerged from the underground of the ruins. Could it be treated as part of trivia of SS014, as we treated the use of Gym battle theme from SwSh. If it is a part of trivia, can you add it in the trivia of SS014 for me,as I don't really know how to frame it properly for the trivia. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 15:09, 5 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
:It's not a notable piece of music, so it's not notable.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 15:40, 5 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== User YayBoy7 vandalizing the site. ==<br />
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I think you should have access to the last changes, the user in question started to vandalize the pages of some users and places and characters with bad words. I tried to modify what I could, but I couldn't prevent other changes and as I don't know if it is possible to report here, it probably must have happened without me seeing it. 01:43 [[Hikaru Wazana]] 05 March 2020<br />
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== Request ==<br />
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I appreciate you protecting SS017's page for the time being. But could I request you'll remove the last edit that was there before the protection took place? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 11:58, 6 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
:Eh, if it wasn't hidden, then I'd remove it. But since it's hidden, so it's doing no harm. It can be removed/corrected once the protection expires.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 12:55, 6 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Lugia (Pocket monsters) ==<br />
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In [[SS020]],the Lugia from the second episode of the series is going to appear. Can we categorize this Lugia as a recurring character in the anime? [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 15:32, 7 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
:I also wanted to ask you one more question,i.e How do I join in Project anime? [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 15:44, 7 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
::Once the episode airs. "Joining" projects is an out of use thing, everyone is editing under a certain project, regardless of them "joining" it. Though you can still add the "User is a part of Project..." usertags to your userpage if you like.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 16:07, 7 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
::: I get the idea about it now. You mean that the edits under the anime pages are part of Project anime. Thanks a lot, ForceFire. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 17:25, 7 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Item Sprites ==<br />
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Hey, I've made a suggestion here [[Template talk:Bag2]]. What do you think about it?--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|<span style="color:#CC0000">Rocket</span> <span style="color:#666666">Grunt</span>]] ([[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|<span style="color:#CCCCCC">Report To Me</span>]])''' 22:25, 7 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
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==User edit-warring on an article==<br />
I've got {{user|Kirigayaray}} [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Pok%C3%A9mon_world_in_relation_to_the_real_world&type=revision&diff=3129878&oldid=3129829 continuously reverting my own reversions] of the [[Pokémon world in relation to the real world]] article. [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Pok%C3%A9mon_world_in_relation_to_the_real_world&type=revision&diff=3129839&oldid=3129835 I've talked with them] about going to the talk page to discuss the contested edits, but [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Pok%C3%A9mon_world_in_relation_to_the_real_world&type=revision&diff=3129878&oldid=3129839 they still made a reversion]. Would you mind intervening, please? Thank you! [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 09:13, 8 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
:The entire article is speculation, so it's fine for them to change it within reason. If you feel that their edits are wrong, then go to their talk page or the talk page of the article. Would also help if you had knowledge on what those areas the location is supposedly based on. That way, your reversion might hold water.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 09:48, 8 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Recurring character categories ==<br />
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Hey! Since I noticed there's an entire set of categories for [[Character of the day|characters of the day]], I was wondering if we could create the same for recurring characters in the anime. I feel like they could use some further categorization and distinction. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 10:54, 8 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
:The main anime characters category covers those fairly well, in my opinion.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 05:52, 9 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
::But it's already so hard to look for some of them, like [[Savannah]]. I think we need such categories. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 00:12, 13 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Deleted ==<br />
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Why did you delete [[:Category:Pages with ignored display titles]], even though I think it is needed? --<span lang="ja">[[User:TheICTLiker4|<span style="color:#333">'''TheI'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/TheICTLiker4|<span style="color:#f30">'''CTLi'''</span>]][[User talk:TheICTLiker4|<span style="color:#bbb">'''ker4'''</span>]]</span> 11:27, 8 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
:No... it's not needed.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 05:52, 9 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Feedback ==<br />
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Hi, I'm putting together a custom template for the characters that will be in the world competition. Some details are still needed, but I would like to know the opinion of the site staff. Is there any chance of being approved? Is it worth it to keep doing this?My inspiration is something that I saw on sports websites. I thought it might be interesting given the importance of the event.<br />
Here is an example:<br />
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This marks the position that Trainer _____ took in the world ranking:<br />
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{| class="roundy" style="margin: auto; text-align: center; background: #{{water color}}; border: 3px solid #{{water color dark}}" cellpadding=5px<br />
|-style="background: #{{water color light}}"<br />
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" |[[File:Pokémon World Championships logo.png|75px]]<br> Pokémon World Championish <br />
! <br><br>[[File:Bag Poké Ball Sprite.png]]<br><br>Normal Class<br />
! <br><br>[[File:Bag Great Ball Sprite.png]]<br><br>Super Class<br />
! <br><br>[[File:Bag Ultra Ball Sprite.png]]<br><br>Hyper Class<br />
! style="{{roundytr|5px}}" |<br><br>[[File:Bag Master Ball Sprite.png]]<br><br> Master Class<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
| Ranking position<br />
| {{color2|000|SS018|Not Avaliable}}<br />
| {{color2|000|SS018|Top 999}}<br />
| {{color2|000|SS018|Top 99}}<br />
| {{color2|000|SS012|Top 8}}<br />
|- style="background: #FFF"<br />
|-<br />
| class="roundybottom" style="background: #{{water color light}}" colspan="5" |<br />
|}<br />
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What do you think?--[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 16:17, 9 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
:Initially thought this was for the TCG worlds tournament thing, so there was a bit of confusion on my end. I've asked and the judgement was that it's a bit too early for such a template, when we know very little of it and its competitors. Maybe once that gets revealed it could be used.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 12:14, 10 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Let's Go plot description ==<br />
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I personally think the plot description {{user|Kahchun}} wrote for Let's Go Pikachu and Eevee today isn't up to code. Do you agree? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 08:21, 10 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Articles for the Mainspace ==<br />
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Hello. I'd hoped for a response from Abcboy or G50, in regards to some of these pages which are ready to be mainspaced, hopefully you can help.<br />
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*[[User:PardescanSlowbro/Legend Festival]]<br />
*[[User:PardescanSlowbro/Pokéstar Studios Film Competition]]<br />
*[[User:PardescanSlowbro/Subway Bosses's Stamp Rally]]<br />
*[[User:PardescanSlowbro/The Marina Group]]<br />
*[[User:PardescanSlowbro/Pershie/The Protectors]]<br />
*[[User:PardescanSlowbro/Bloom Canyon]]<br />
*[[User:PardescanSlowbro/Flower Garden Troupe]] - I've structured it like other organization pages like the [[Pokémon Lover's Club]] and [[B-Button League]] as its HQ was shown in the anime<br />
*[[User:PardescanSlowbro/Pokémon Training Center]]<br />
*[[User:PardescanSlowbro/Unnamed Island (EP060)]] - We have other unnamed island pages like the ones featured during the Orange and Decolore sagas<br />
*[[User:PardescanSlowbro/Big Town Pokémon]] - This one needs further discussion as these are the recurring Pokémon that aren't part of the Pichu Posse, as to whether this should be a separate page or rather the Pichu Posse page gets reconfigured to account for this.<br />
*[[User:PardescanSlowbro/Pershie]]<br />
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Regards [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 08:55, 10 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
:*Legend festival should be fine.<br />
:*The PokeStar competition article should detail its competitors like the other competition articles.<br />
:*Same as above.<br />
:*Marina group should be fine.<br />
:*(not sure why it's a subpage of Pershie) Protectors is fine, though is looking bare without a navigation template.<br />
:*Bloom Canyon could do with a bit more, but if nothing else major happens there, then I guess it'd do.<br />
:*Flower Garden Troupe is fine.<br />
:*Pokemon Training Center is fine.<br />
:*Unnamed Island is fine, again navigation template would help it look nicer.<br />
:*Big Town Pokemon needs further discussion about splitting it off from Pichu Brothers.<br />
:*Pershie didn't do much, and didn't really have an impact in any of the episodes it was in. Not notable.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 12:14, 10 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
::Just confirming, Bloom Canyon had a brief appearance in the episode.<br />
::Anyway, I've made those suggested changes, the pages are now ready for the mainspace. Thanks for the reply. [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 07:45, 11 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::Hi. I've noticed only two pages have been mainspaced so far. When will the other approved pages be uploaded to the mainspace? [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 09:40, 19 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
::::Apologies for that, all the approved articles have been moved.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 10:08, 19 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::::Much appreciated, thanks. [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 10:25, 19 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Professor Burnet ==<br />
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{| max-width="80%" style="margin:auto; background: transparent; {{roundy|10px}} border: 0px solid #C4E673; padding:2px;" <br />
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| colspan="2" width="100%" style="background: #E0F2B6; {{roundy|10px 10px {{#switch:{{{2|author}}}|author=10px|0px}} 10px}} border: 2px solid #a1c747; padding-top:5px; padding-bottom:10px; padding-left:5px; padding-right:5px;" | <span style="color:#705848; font-size:35px; font-family:'Times New Roman',serif; padding:10px 10px;">'''“'''</span> <span style="font-size:120%;">Her name is Burnet, which comes from the Japanese name. Profesor is her title/occupation, not part of her name, so it's not counted.</span> <span style="color:#705848; font-size:35px; font-family:'Times New Roman',serif; padding:10px 10px;">'''”'''</span><br />
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Thank you for this explanation while you “rollbacked” these edits, this will be useful in my future contributions. --<span lang="ja">[[User:TheICTLiker4|<span style="color:#333">'''TheI'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/TheICTLiker4|<span style="color:#f30">'''CTLi'''</span>]][[User talk:TheICTLiker4|<span style="color:#bbb">'''ker4'''</span>]]</span> 18:44, 11 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Mythical pokémon pics ==<br />
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Hi! I'd like to know the ratio over using promotional images of past mythical pokémon in the [[Mythical Pokémon|general page]] while the latest ones have to use the Sugimori artwork. I edited it because I thought it looked better and more cohesive. Thank you! --[[User:Crikko|'''★'''<span style="color:#6699FF;">'''Cri'''</span>'''ққ'''<span style="color:#6699FF;">'''ѳ~'''</span>'''*''']] 16:58, 13 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Gen 8 Sprites ==<br />
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Hi do you think we should start on the gen 8 sprites now and use the front sprites such as Grookey's front sprite<br />
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[[File:Spr 8s 810.png|300px]]<br />
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and upload the backsprites later? I apologize about my wording and English BTW ([[User:Mr.GodzillaMan|Mr.GodzillaMan]] ([[User talk:Mr.GodzillaMan|talk]]) 16:27, 17 March 2020 (UTC))<br />
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== New vandal alert ==<br />
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Hey! We've got {{user|Yeety}} being a vandal here. Take care of it, please? Thank you! [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 20:27, 17 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
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:Now this person's directly harassing me on my talk page and spreading lies about me on other users' talk pages. I need assistance! [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 20:47, 17 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
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::Never mind, {{U|Abcboy}} took care of it. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 20:52, 17 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Rillaboom's Drumsticks ==<br />
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I know that Rillaboom carries its drum on its back, but where does it keep its drumsticks? The leaf-like fur near its hands (like how Delphox keeps its branch in the fur on its arm)? [[User:Macpika|Macpika]] ([[User talk:Macpika|talk]]) 17:38, 19 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Totodile’s Tackle ==<br />
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Excuse me, I already know which episode Ash's Totodile used Tackle, and Duplica's Mini-Dit did the same, but why did it get reverted? Dub edits or something?--[[User:CoolPokeGuy|CoolPokéGuy]] ([[User talk:CoolPokeGuy|Talk]]) 19:03, 19 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
:Was it stated or are you just guessing? I don't particularly remember the episode.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 05:08, 20 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
:It was stated. I’ve seen that episode for a very long time.--[[User:CoolPokeGuy|CoolPokéGuy]] ([[User talk:CoolPokeGuy|Talk]]) 07:13, 20 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Relicanth ==<br />
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You can't just delete a fan theory from a paragraph designated to fan speculation. And why isn't Relicanth a map?--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|<span style="color:#CC0000">Rocket</span> <span style="color:#666666">Grunt</span>]] ([[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|<span style="color:#CCCCCC">Report To Me</span>]])''' 16:34, 23 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
:Do not edit war. Wait for a response. No response does not mean you can just add it back. Have patience.<br />
:I already said why on Relicanth's talk page. It's an opinion. Relicanth's body design looks nothing like the map of Hoenn. And it's a very large stretch to say that its design is why it's needed to unlock the Regis when the far simpler and probable reason is because it's a living fossil Pokemon.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 17:02, 23 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
::I'm not saying it's a map of Hoenn, but it surely is a map. Being brown (like old maps), having unexpleined by any other mean red spot, being unchanged for centuries and always placed sideway instead of heading the player in game sprites, all these things together suggest that. And as a theory of Hoenn map, even if you can't see it, it has no reason to not be added under speculations.--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|<span style="color:#CC0000">Rocket</span> <span style="color:#666666">Grunt</span>]] ([[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|<span style="color:#CCCCCC">Report To Me</span>]])''' 20:50, 23 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::It would make more sense if it looked like the map of Hoenn, otherwise, it's just a random design. Again, all of those are a stretch when the more simpler and probable reason is because it's an ancient Pokemon. It still needs to be reasonable speculation, and the whole map thing just isn't.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 01:39, 24 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Bulbapedia Rework ==<br />
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Hello, Force Fire. <br />
My name is Xeraphyy. Last month, a tweet was made announcing that Bulbapedia was going through some site upgrades. The link to the tweet is below.<br />
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https://twitter.com/Bulbapedia/status/1228458215324545024<br />
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I was wondering if the site upgrades are still continuing. Do you know of the status of the rework? Please get back to me when you can. [[User:Xeraphyy|Xeraphyy]] ([[User talk:Xeraphyy|talk]]) 18:34, 23 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Raichu's gender ==<br />
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May I ask why the gender of Visquez's Raichu can't be confirmed? It's a Raichu that was first seen after gender differences were implemented, we've seen Pikachu's gender differences before, and her Raichu's tail clearly was that of a male Raichu. I personally fail to see the reason to not consider its gender confirmed based on its tail. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 21:58, 23 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
:That's Pikachu's gender difference. Not Raichu's gender difference. Just because one gender difference has been acknowledged, does not mean the others exist. They still need to be acknowledged by the animators. They could easily acknowledge one difference but not the other, because they can just be like that sometimes.<br />
:A female Raichu has appeared in the anime, but it was drawn with a male tail (Tierno's). So we still can't use gender differences, until the female variant Raichu appears in the anime. Other than that, it needs to be explicitly stated or hit with attract/cute charm. But you know that already.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 01:39, 24 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
::Oh, right. I had completely forgotten about Tierno's Raichu. Sorry. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 08:31, 24 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::How is Tierno's Raichu a cetain case? I've ask about this [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Talk:Tierno_(anime) here].--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|<span style="color:#CC0000">Rocket</span> <span style="color:#666666">Grunt</span>]] ([[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|<span style="color:#CCCCCC">Report To Me</span>]])''' 11:36, 24 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
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==Hikaru Wazana==<br />
Me and FinnishPokéfan92 have been having some trouble with Hikaru Wazana, mainly on the Archive section with him uploading images that aren't the right size or quality, adding more work for us and other users. I've spoken to Chosen and Abcboy about this but haven't had any response. Was wondering if you could look into it? I'm bringing this up now as he's starting making more work on this side of Bulbapedia, notably the [[Elite Four]] and [[Casey's Meganium]] pages.--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 22:38, 25 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
::I didn’t upload anything to Casey’s Meganium page, the only thing I did was expand the page, which YEARS passed without anyone putting anything relevant about her role. The other uploads I made with images with the best quality I got, unfortunately I can't change them with the standard quality. If the images of the E4 you are talking about are those of the Pokemon Puzzle League, unfortunately I couldn't get any better, so I wondered if it was better to add content or not. I chose to add the content. <br />
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What should I do? There is a page that, as notable as it is, no one takes the trouble to update. It seems that people care more about putting Trivia than really supporting the site. The other day I sent you the screencaptures of a hosted site, but doing that for all the ones I get is an extra job. I don't want to give extra work to the people who collaborate here,[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]10:15, 31 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
:I don't pay too much attention to the archives side of things, so any issues should be brought up with someone that spends more time over there. As for Hikaru's edits here, they're fine. If they feel like a page can be expanded, they are free to expand it to the best of their abilities.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 12:05, 31 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Gender ==<br />
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So why exactly you reverted back the table for Pokemon that evolve depending on gender? It wasn't big edit, not even mine.--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|<span style="color:#CC0000">Rocket</span> <span style="color:#666666">Grunt</span>]] ([[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|<span style="color:#CCCCCC">Report To Me</span>]])''' 17:02, 26 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
:Because it wasn't necessary. Not every page have to have the same template design. You also made a large scale edit without consulting others on the talk page, like you usually do. If you want to suggest a drastic change, always propose it on the talk page first. Don't just do as you please.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 08:00, 27 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
::I'm too convinced that Bulbapedia's style should be precise and consistent as it is on most of pages already. Do you have any reason for this page to not be like the others? Because there is one reason for and zero against. Also, I do many bigger changes by myself because my questions and suggestions are rarely answered and when they do there is almost no reason presented. For example you still haven't answered my question about Tierno's Raichu.--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|<span style="color:#CC0000">Rocket</span> <span style="color:#666666">Grunt</span>]] ([[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|<span style="color:#CCCCCC">Report To Me</span>]])''' 16:31, 28 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::Don't just go ahead with making largescale edits just because no one responds, that does not give you the privilege to just make the edit anyway. Wait for a response. The evolution chain is not the point of that section of the article, so there is not needs for a template that showcases an entire evolutionary line. The article is about gender, so it shows the different gender specific Pokemon. Evolutionary line has nothing to do with the article. And Tierno's Raichu is confirmed female because the original version stated that Attract failed on Blastoise because Blastoise was male.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 16:55, 28 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
::::If there is no point in showing whole evolutionary line, then why don't you simplify it in the same way on other pages? And if Tierno's Raichu is confirmed female then why don't you mention that on page of Visquez's Raichu that it is the reason for not giving him gender. It's really annoying how you're making decisions you're not fully abide to.--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|<span style="color:#CC0000">Rocket</span> <span style="color:#666666">Grunt</span>]] ([[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|<span style="color:#CCCCCC">Report To Me</span>]])''' 15:16, 1 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::::Just leave it. It's fine the way it is and gets the point across just as well. The point is to show the evolution method and the gender specific forms, since the section is titled "gender based evolution", and using the artwork shows the differences much more clearly than a minisprite. That and your template makes it inconsistent in design with the template right below it.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 16:17, 1 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::::And as I said, they don't all have to have the same template design. Some pages can have unique templates designs depending on the article. There is no inconsistency issue.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 16:21, 1 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Urshifu ==<br />
Honestly just a small issue I spotted regarding Urshifu's page, where the Tower of Darkness and Tower of Waters are referred to as the Temple of Darkness and Temple of Waters in the evolution box. It's a minor error, but it bothered me, so I made an account specifically to try to fix it, but of course it was protected, which I didn't realize was a thing because I didn't ever consider it. Anyway, just something I felt obligated to point out for the sake of accuracy. Thanks for your time reading this. --[[User:ArcaneCrystal|ArcaneCrystal]] ([[User talk:ArcaneCrystal|talk]]) 07:30, 27 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
:Fixed.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 08:00, 27 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== List Grammar ==<br />
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On the Normal (type) page, you reverted my edit to the sentence, "Their inability to hit Ghost-type Pokémon can be nullified by using Foresight, Odor Sleuth, or by Pokémon with the Ability Scrappy." That's a list of two nouns (''Foresight'' and ''Odor Sleuth'') and a prepositional phrase ("by Pokémon with the Ability Scrappy"), which just doesn't work, or a list of two prepositional phrases ("by using Foresight" and "by Pokémon with the Ability Scrappy") and a noun (''Odor Sleuth''), which also just doesn't work. (At least, it doesn't work in American English; I don't know about other major dialects.) <br />
[[User:Matthias von Schwarzwald|Matthias von Schwarzwald]] ([[User talk:Matthias von Schwarzwald|talk]]) 16:41, 29 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== "In the movies"? ==<br />
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Dear ForceFire,<br />
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I noticed several of the anime characters that have been featured in the Pokémon movies have sections titled "In the movies", while most are "In the anime". Is there a reason for this, or should it all be standardized to one format?[[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 07:28, 30 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
:If they've featured in both the main series and the movie series, then it should have two subsections for anime and movies (order goes by whichever they first appeared in). Movie exclusive characters get a history section.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 08:59, 31 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Pokémon seen sections for anime locations ==<br />
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Dear ForceFire,<br />
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I would also like to clarify what Pokémon are typically included in the Pokémon seen sections of the location pages. While I think we can do away with these sections entirely due to differences in formatting and non-specific images as some appearance have only occurred in a group. I've noticed that some Trainer owned Pokémon are included in these segments, especially locations that hosted Contests, should it only be wild Pokémon and Pokémon known to actually reside in the area with their Trainer? [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 07:34, 30 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
:I think the section is necessary to showcase what Pokemon reside in the area. Multiple images of the same thing for individual Pokemon isn't a problem. It should ideally just be for wild Pokemon. I don't think a trainer's Pokemon being at a location counts, since it technically doesn't reside there (not sure why a contest location would have a section for that).--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 08:59, 31 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== [[Tracey's Scyther]] ==<br />
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The Grammarfreak user insists on putting a "Johto" section for Tracey's Scyther. Since Tracey didn't have a "Johto Journey", does that make any sense?I mean, the Johto and Kanto level is not separated with Kanto arc and Johto arc unless the respective Pokémon has a journey in such a place (Gary's Eevee, Gary Arcanine they are like that as far as I'm concerned, right?). <br />
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Doesn't the page just list the point of view of that respective character?Even if you allow me, I think the division should be just in the anime saga (something like Original Series, Advance, Diamond and so on). As is done even in the manga section. In this case of Tracey, what is the point in creating a section to detail a journey it did not take?I don't know I managed to put my point of view correctly, I apologize if you may have been a little confused.[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]10:30, 31 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
:The history is only separated by region if they have appeared in that region, yes. Though, in the case of Scyther, it did appear after the Orange Island arc but in Kanto and not Johto. I think renaming the section "Kanto", "Other", or "post Orange Islands" would be more appropriate. <br />
:The region specific separation should only be for Pokemon that appeared in two different regions in an arc (so Hoenn and Kanto for AG, Kanto, Orange, and Johto for OS, so on so forth). If the Pokemon has done something notable or important in a region, then it should be noted.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 12:05, 31 March 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== New titles of new series ==<br />
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SS021 - Hit Your Mark, Wave Guidance! Satoshi and the Mysterious Egg!!(12/4)<br />
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SS022 - Farewell, Rabbifoot!(19/4)<br />
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SS023 - Massive Panic! Sakuragi Park!!<br />
(26/4)<br />
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These are the new titles. Could you confirm and them in the list of new series episodes. {{unsigned|Dhiwakar}}<br />
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Don't worry about it, ForceFire. It's already added. Thank you. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 13:25, 1 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Suggestion ==<br />
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I was wondering that should the Battle Frontier facility info templates be edited to include the possibility of a battlefield section, like with Gym info templates, and the game image of the facility in the template be replaced with the anime image, if possible. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 17:22, 4 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
:While I wouldn't be against it (I only really checked the Battle Pyramid article, and an anime image would be a better alternative), tryask for second opinions.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 05:10, 5 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
::Blazingfist has [[User talk:Blazingfist#Suggestion|also agreed to the idea]]. Should I ask some more users, or is this fine? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 17:30, 7 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::If you'd like, you can make a mockup in your userspace and I can get the Editorial board to check it.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 15:27, 8 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
::::I created a mockup [[User:FinnishPokéFan92/Template:Facility Infobox|here]]. I mainly just added another image section to the bottom of the template. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 18:10, 8 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::::I've brought it up with the editorial board, waiting approval.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 04:49, 9 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Does not explain name origin? ==<br />
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howdy, Force Fire. i'm just here to ask you, why have you removed my edit on Hawlucha's page? i was thinking it'd be possible that a Matador (Bullfighter) puts the "bull" in Luchabull. which is why i added it in the name origin. was there something wrong with it? ----[[User:inukoinu.k9|<span style="color:#52D2CA">i n u k o i n u</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:inukoinu.k9|<span style="color:#AF7AC5">talk</span>]])''</small> 19:37, 4 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
:It did not explain how the word "matador" itself is incorporated into the name. The relevance to bulls is already mentioned with just "bull" before it.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 05:10, 5 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
::oh, i really wanted to add how i thought it meant but i guess not. i'm still just a bit new at this so, sorry. heh. ----[[User:inukoinu.k9|<span style="color:#52D2CA">i n u k o i n u</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:inukoinu.k9|<span style="color:#AF7AC5">talk</span>]])''</small> 13:40, 5 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Ash Ketchum page split suggestion ==<br />
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Hi Force Fire, I've started [[Talk:Ash_Ketchum#Article_split_suggestion|a proposal on Ash Ketchum's talk page]] about splitting it into different pages and I would like to hear from you as Senior Administrator! Thanks!--[[User:Crikko|'''★'''<span style="color:#6699FF;">'''Cri'''</span>'''ққ'''<span style="color:#6699FF;">'''ѳ~'''</span>'''*''']] 15:08, 5 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
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==Cynthia (anime)==<br />
I was wondering if it might be worth giving Cynthia her own anime page or start work on one at least.--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 11:54, 6 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
:Sorry to use another user's conversation, but as the subject is the same ... Well, I started creating a [[User:Hikaru_Wazana/Korrina_(anime)|page for Korrina]]. I wanted your opinion, should I continue with it? I think that here I could start making more exclusive pages for the counterparts of some characters, mainly to relieve the space of some "official" pages of some. Because here there are a lot of pages I could gain from this, as the tidy could be more detailed and the main page would stay with only the basics. <br />
:I think the site has a problem that many people prefer to fill the pages of Trivias, but do not put relevant content on the same page. This happens very often on trainer's Pokémon pages ([[Maylene's Lucario]] for example). But even relevant characters went through this, the page of the matriarch of Village of Dragons was almost a summary and did not even have all the character's participation. Bulbapedia could create a stricter rule for placing Trivias on the pages. I mean, it's just a suggestion.--[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 23:19, 7 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
::I agree that some more Gym Leaders might necessitate sub-articles for their anime counterparts and so on and so forth, not just those who accompanied Ash on his journey. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 23:24, 7 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::I think both Cynthia and Korrina are notable for their own article, though I suggest adding something to the "pre-series" section of her page before moving first. <br />
:::As for anime articles for game characters, only if they've played an important role and appeared in more than a few episodes, obviously Surge, Roxanne, and Clay aren't notable for anime articles. If you have any suggestions, you can always start one up in your userpage and the staff will take a look.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 15:27, 8 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
::::Went to mainspace Cynthia, but got this message. You do not have permission to move this page, for the following reason:<br />
::::A page of that name already exists, or the name you have chosen is not valid. Please choose another name.--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 15:41, 8 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
::I did the pre-series section and put content from episodes that were not included in the main article, as you suggested, Force Fire. If someone wants to coordinate efforts and make pages for characters notable enough for the page, I volunteer. I'm already making some Pokés for some characters.--[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 21:04, 8 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
::I have moved both Cynthia and Korrina to the mainspace, though cynthia could do with an introductory paragraph, like the other anime character articles...--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 04:49, 9 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
::::What are the rules for a character to get his own page? I mean, there is one, right?I know some people made a page for Hau, I have one in progress for Steve Stone. I believe that Clair has what is necessary, but it would be good to have an official opinion so that we don't have to make a lot of pages that we don't need. What rules do they use in the manga section? Would Morty, Norman, Roark, Gardenia or Brandon be notable?Sorry about the lot of questions. LOL.--[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 15:04, 10 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::::There isn't a hard notability rule for anime characters as there is for anime Pokemon, though some of the rules there would probably apply. Basically they must appear from more than a few episodes, play an important role in the series, and do more than just battle the main characters. Norman and Brandon could be notable, but not the others you mentioned.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 05:51, 11 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
::::::Created a [[User:BigDocFan/Brandon (anime)|page]] for Brandon, was wondering if you could have a look.--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 08:43, 11 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::::::Both Steven Stone and Brandon are fine to be mainspaced, both played a major role in their series.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 09:53, 12 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
::::::::I personally disagree. We don't need to create such an excessive amount of separate pages. Cynthia and Korrina I can understand, but Steven and Brandon I disagree with. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 18:08, 12 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::Both have played major parts in an arc they appeared in (Regigas arc for Brandon, Mega Evolution arc for Steven), and have done more that just battle. While I do go on and on over quality over quantity, the quality of those pages are fine.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 05:43, 13 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
I added information to Brandon's page, I hope everything is right. Despite that, from now on I will only suggest the page when it is ready, Brandon's page was still far from ready(We still need to find a better image to put in the infobox). The one I'm doing for Steven I'll be letting you know when it's ready to head to the main space.--[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 22:04, 13 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User:Hikaru_Wazana/Clair_(anime)<br />
Hi, I did the first drafts on this page, do you think it is good enough to go to the main space?--[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 20:09, 05 May 2020 (UTC)<br />
:I've brought up that page with the other staff members, as I wasn't sure if Clair had done enough outside of battling to warrant a separate page, and they deemed Clair not notable for an anime specific article.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 12:55, 7 May 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Undoing ==<br />
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I tried to undo an edit on my talkpage but the abuse filter wouldn't let me. --[[User:CaliforniaPokemonGirl623|CaliforniaPokemonGirl623]] ([[User talk:CaliforniaPokemonGirl623|talk]]) 03:30, 9 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
:That usually happens when new users attempt to remove large amounts of information. I've removed the template from your talk page. Again, your talk should not be used as a userpage. The only thing that should be on your talk page, aside form the welcome template, are comments and discussions.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 04:49, 9 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
::Hi [[User:Force Fire|Force Fire]] How many edits (specific number) are needed to get autoconfirmed? --[[User:CaliforniaPokemonGirl623|CaliforniaPokemonGirl623]] ([[User talk:CaliforniaPokemonGirl623|talk]]) 15:38, 9 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::The number is kept secret, even I don't know what the number is. It's kept secret so users don't just make the reuired amount of edits and abandon the mainspace for the userpace.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 05:51, 11 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Blast Burn, etc. ==<br />
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Hey, if I recall I don't think I repeatedly edited the pages for Blast Burn and similar moves to state that they were the Kanto starters' signature moves - I think I only edited each of them once (or possibly twice to correct mistakes). But in any case, before XD was released, the Kanto starters ''were'' the only Pokémon that could learn those moves, similar to Greninja with {{m|Water Shuriken}} before ORAS. They're even listed on the [[signature move]] page as such. Therefore, if they don't qualify as signature moves, then Water Shuriken shouldn't either. --[[User:Darthrai|Darthrai]] ([[User talk:Darthrai|talk]]) 03:40, 9 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
:I checked the history section of Blast Burn and you added it a few years back, which subsequently got reverted. Yes, the Kanto starters were the only one that can learn it, but it didn't ''keep'' it as a signature move for a generation, which is what (one of) the criteria is. I've removed the Greninja line on Water Shuriken.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 04:49, 9 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Dinosaurtime.YT ==<br />
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Hey! It's clear {{user|Dinosaurtime.YT}} is going to continue edit-warring on articles rather than use the talk page. Do something about it? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 00:08, 11 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
:It's just a matter of explaining to him how things work and that he can help in other sections, there are loads of pages that need help.There is no point in creating a problem with this, or to reach the moderator's page with that tone of words.[[User:Hikaru Wazana |Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 00:30, 11 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
::It wouldn't be a problem if the user hadn't immediately gone to the talk page when their edits were contested. Repeated reversions is automatically punished with a block, whether anyone likes it or not. I would know. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 00:33, 11 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::I've given them a message.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 05:51, 11 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
::::Okay, thank you. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 23:19, 12 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
Dinosaurtime.YT - Can i say something? I am not Edit-warring. It am just correcting information that is wrong. Many people seem to think that 1-57 is 52 episodes when it is not, it is 57 episodes. I am merely correcting people who are mistaken and wrong.{{unsigned|Dinosaurtime.YT}}<br />
:You are clearly counting the episodes that never aired in the US. Because while EP001 to EP057 are season one, only 52 of them actually aired in the US (EP018, EP035, EP038, EP052, and EP053 were either banned or aired later).--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 12:51, 13 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
Oh, ok then, i din't know. I just thought it was a typo that had become believed. I made an extra point in the seasons page to correct it and let people know, just in case they didn't know and i apologise for the inconvenience and misconception. {user:Dinosaurtime.YT} {{unsigned|Dinosaurtime.YT}}<br />
:That's not what the dot points are for. The dot points are listing the different definitions of a season. The stuff about irregularities in count can go elsewhere.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 13:12, 13 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
:Where should it go then? In the first section of the page?--[[User:Dinosaurtime.YT|Dinosaurtime.YT]] ([[User talk:Dinosaurtime.YT|talk]]) 13:19, 13 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Mainspacing suggestion ==<br />
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I have a page about [[User:FinnishPokéFan92/Miette's Slurpuff|Miette's Slurpuff]] that's been waiting for a mainspacing decision for years now. Do you think it's notable and complete enough to be mainspaced? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 16:59, 14 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
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:I feel like Miette's Slurpuff hasn't done much outside of performing in Showcases, if I remember correctly. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 00:51, 15 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
::Miette's Slurpuff isn't notable. It didn't do anything major, apart from its debut episode, and every appearance afterwards was just battling/performances.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 05:51, 15 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::...Fine... --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 09:25, 15 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Team Rocket's disguises ==<br />
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I noticed the page on Team Rocket's disguises is written in the present tense, while we typically write in the past tense. Is there a reason for this? Also Butch and Cassidy have used disguises during some of their schemes, should these be included on the [[List of Team Rocket's disguises]] page?[[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 09:54, 17 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
:The wording on that article should be in past tense, yes. As for Butch and Cassidy's disguise, I wouldn't be against it, though you might need to suggest it to others.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 06:11, 18 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
::Not a problem thanks. I'll message BlazingFist to confirm whether Butch and Cassidy's disguises should be added to the page. [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 02:42, 19 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::I've always thought the article should be written in present tense because it's always been that way. My bad, I guess. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 06:45, 20 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
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==Spoiler tags for Lusamine page? Maybe also for Chairman Rose?==<br />
Okay as the both of us know, the wiki still has not tolerated spoilers in the opening paragraph of the [[Lusamine]] page (this may also be a good thing to potentially apply to [[Chairman Rose]].<br />
Last I checked, the original Sun and Moon (the storyline where this fits into) was released approximately 3 - 3.5 years ago. Unowninator suggested spoiler tags, and I think that may be a worthy solution.<br />
What do you think? [[User:Crummymummy|Crummymummy]] ([[User talk:Crummymummy|talk]]) 03:38, 18 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
:It can be mentioned in the story section of her article, with a spoiler tag in the section (though I think the twist already been alluded to anyway), it will not go to the main paragraph as it is too much of a spoiler. It being 3 years after SM has been released means nothing. It's been years since Colosseum and XD were released and their villains have separate pages from their disguised characters.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 06:07, 18 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Sun and Moon Walkthrough edits ==<br />
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Hi, I am a new user here who wants to edit and create walkthroughs. The [[Appendix:Sun and Moon walkthrough/Section 3]] page is essentially a copy and paste of the [[Hau'oli City]] page. When I tried deleting the parts unrelated or out of place in the walkthrough, I found that I couldn't, as it was automatically labeled as vandalism. Do I need to become an autoconfirmed user first, or do I need some other privileges? Thanks for your help. [[User:Mercilessstarfish|Mercilessstarfish]] ([[User talk:Mercilessstarfish|talk]]) 02:32, 19 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
:That normally happens when new users try to remove large amounts of information. You just need to wait a while.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 04:00, 19 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Lickitung's Lick ==<br />
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In 2016, you said on Jessie's Lickitung's talk page that the action of licking does not equal the move Lick. However, the announcer in Lickitung's debut episode clearly refers to the action as "Lick attack", as in "Lick the move". If you ask me, this is just an example of an anime move error than an "improvised" move. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 19:24, 20 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
:I'm aware of what the announcer said, though I do not remember if it was dub added or from the original. I've removed the improved moves template from the page, the template itself having already been removed multiple times before only to be re-added again.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 06:14, 21 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
::Okay. I looked into it, and it turns out that Lickitung's licking wasn't referred to as a move in the Japanese version. So yeah. I stand corrected. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 09:44, 21 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== My edits ==<br />
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Why are you reverting my edits to the Pokémon pages?--[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 04:53, 21 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Do paintings of Pokémon count as anime appearances? ==<br />
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{{U|KnightGalarie}} [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Squirtle_(Pok%C3%A9mon)&diff=0&oldid=3152250 certainly seems to think so]. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 08:48, 22 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
:Paintings are images, right?--[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 08:50, 22 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
::I've been getting mixed signals about that, honestly. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 08:54, 22 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::[[Bulbapedia:Manual of style/Anime#Pokémon appearances and debuts]].--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 09:09, 22 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
::::So the Pokemon Park robots/animatronics don’t count as appearances at all?--[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 09:12, 22 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::::An exception can be made for those as they played a major role in their episode.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 09:49, 22 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
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==May's Ivysaur==<br />
And hey as long as we’ve got you, why is May’s Ivysaur considered a “Major appearance” when her Ivysaur never actually appeared? I brought it up on the Ivysaur talk page but it didn’t get any traction--[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 09:20, 22 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
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:If it has an article and belonged to a main character, then it's automatically a major appearance. The fact that most of its major appearances were spent as a Bulbasaur carried over to its time as an Ivysaur and then a Venusaur (which, if I may recall, didn't appear for too long either). [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 09:21, 22 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
::But Venusaur at least got ''an'' appearance. Ivysaur has zero appearances. It can’t be a major appearance if there’s no appearance to speak of--[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 09:24, 22 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::The section is just more or less stating that May's Bulbasaur eventually evolved into an Ivysaur. It's fine.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 09:49, 22 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== My own block ==<br />
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Hey! I think I might have to be blocked too. I've reverted {{U|KnightGalarie}} so many times on so many different articles that I've lost count. Review my history and see if I've done enough reverts to warrant some sort of block, because I do feel like I've jumped the gun one too many times here. But at this point, I'm too tired to check for myself. Thank you! [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 10:10, 22 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== GalarPony and KnightGalarie ==<br />
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Hey! Call it a far-fetched hunch, but is it possible {{user|GalarPony}} and {{user|KnightGalarie}} could be one and the same person? Not only do their usernames both have "Galar" in it, but both [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:GalarPony#Refusal_to_use_talk_pages GalarPony] and [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:KnightGalarie#Block KnightGalarie] have a bad tendency to edit-war and use edit summaries to make their argument rather than trying to go to the talk page first. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 07:27, 24 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
:Did a check between the two accounts. I've given them a message.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 08:31, 24 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
::I just read your message. Honestly, given the similarities you just described (some of which I hadn't even thought of, honestly), it looks super-suspicious. I'm personally convinced they're the same person, but I suppose GalarPony's multiple IP addresses complicates things for you. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 08:34, 24 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::Whoa, whoa, whoa, how can the issue be [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AKnightGalarie&type=revision&diff=3153995&oldid=3153986 cleared up]? How could KnightGalarie share the same computer details as GalarPony and yet say they created their account on a cellphone? Unless there's something about computers I don't know about (and please feel free to explain it to me if this is the case), this is telling me two possible scenarios:<br />
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:::1) KnightGalarie is GalarPony and created the account with a cellphone, and then used the same computer to make their edits.<br />
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:::2) KnightGalarie and GalarPony are different people who share access to the same computer (which KnightGalarie hadn't exactly confirmed).<br />
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:::I think you should press for some clarification on their explanation, because I'm still suspicious about this. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 21:01, 24 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
::::I don't believe that he is GalarPony. The only thing connecting the two are the matching devices, which isn't that helpful if it is a mobile device. The similar names isn't even a good reason, anyone can use the word "Galar" in their name. Their behaviors, whilst similar, are still circumstantial. In a sense, I decided not to pursue it any further. If you still have concerns, you can bring it up with someone of a higher rank than me.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 04:47, 25 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Cynthia149 ==<br />
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{{user|Cynthia149}} had [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk%3ANew_series&type=revision&diff=3154191&oldid=3154141 this lovely comment] to say at the [[new series]] talk page. Mind giving them a warning? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 21:27, 24 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
:<s>Don't think it's too bad, but I'll leave a response on that talk page.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 04:47, 25 April 2020 (UTC)</s><br />
:Nah, I'll give them a message on their talk page instead.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 04:51, 25 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
::Okay, thank you. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 18:52, 25 April 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Pokérap backwards ==<br />
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Hello Force Fire, I was browsing through my previous contributions to the Wiki and decided to look at the controversy page, I noticed that the point about the Pokérap had an inadequate source. After doing a search for "Pokérap" and "Satan" I found no first had source, I reckon this could be a myth like Lavender Town and the Vikings wearing horns on their helmets so removed it but you want a discussion so I'm starting one. The point doesn't have a valid source and makes Christians come across as overly paranoid, I don't think this site should allow misconceptions to spread, I mean after all the Lavender Town point isn't on the page which is a similar myth so why should this one?[[User:Great Bear|Great Bear]] ([[User talk:Great Bear|talk]]) 21:53, 4 May 2020 (UTC)<br />
:The Lavender town myth was actually busted. The Pokerap thing hasn't been busted. Does it make Christians look bad? Maybe? But people from other religions have said stuff about the franchise, so Christians saying such things wouldn't be too far off. I've already had a discussion about this with another user years ago, but it most likely happened during the 90s when Pokemon was at the height of its craze. Stuff like this probably wasn't documented at the time, and if it was, most likely died along with the 90s.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 05:29, 5 May 2020 (UTC)<br />
::Your response comes down to "I speculate that it happened even though there's no evidence to support thid from the time, but I think it happened, therefore it must remain". Just because you think it MIGHT have happened doesn't mean it did and if a source died in the 90s we should assume it didn't happen (evidence must exist to confirm something). I think it seems quite a stretch because why would people decide to play specifically the Kanto Pokérap backwards. This is exactly like the Vikings with horned helmets, no account at the time yet believed to have happened because people spread their ideas after the time. Could it not be reworded to remove the piece about Christian fundamentalist, as we have no evidence that they specifically complained about this and instead just say that people (not Christians) have noticed (not complained) that you might be able to hear "I love you Satan" essentially showing that it's a rumour on the internet.[[User:Great Bear|Great Bear]] ([[User talk:Great Bear|talk]]) 11:09, 5 May 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::I will agree with ForceFire on this one. Given that there was a "Satanic Panic" starting in the 1980s and lasting well into the 1990s before it finally stopped for the most part. I would assume that there was a lot of overly zealous christians at the time trying to say ANYTHING they could to get people to stop being fans of the franchise, including making up lyrics and such that they may have heard in the songs when played backwards. The earliest record I could find making mention of this "backmask message" was from a forum thread documented in 2004 where someone asked if others had heard of this rumor before and if they thought they heard the message as well. So while it has been pretty much impossible to find videos or articles where christian folks are flat out stating this, it likely had been stated at one point in time during the late 90s - early 00s before the website was removed. Given most early internet websites were poorly archived, it would likely be impossible to find records of older christian websites making note of it these days. That being said, as youtuber SteveTerreberry has shown, if you try hard enough, you can hear whatever you want out of a song in reverse, even though 99% of the time, there is nothing there in the lyrics anyways. ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|<span style="color:teal">Frozen</span>]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|<span style="color:green">Fennec</span>]]'' 12:30, 5 May 2020 (UTC)<br />
::::I completely disagree, it all boils down to did Christians specifically say that you could hear "I love Satan" in the Pokérap played backwards. The answer is "we don't know, we have no evidence to show that they ever did" and Frozen Fennec saying that it wasn't properly archived is not an excuse, it needs to be proved and saying that it could have happened but we have no evidence is NOT an excuse. Just because they may have complained about other recordings doesn't mean that they did about this one and shows them as overzealous people who complain about a children's entertainment franchise (which really doesn't portray them as good people, and some people might find this unproven information offensive). Force Fire saying that this hasn't been debunked is also not an excuse because you need to prove that something happened, not assume that something happened because of something that appeared on the internet after the time. Finally it's not opinion it's about objectivity and fact and you need information to prove a FACT otherwise it should only belong on speculative forums and not an encyclopedia.[[User:Great Bear|Great Bear]] ([[User talk:Great Bear|talk]]) 14:58, 5 May 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::::Another thing I just thought of is why does it really matter if it remains on the page? If it's removed for being an internet rumour then it will still exist on speculative forums, that I mentioned earlier.[[User:Great Bear|Great Bear]] ([[User talk:Great Bear|talk]]) 15:03, 5 May 2020 (UTC)<br />
::::::I just noticed something else, it says "Some claim" present tense, in other words happening right now. Regardless of everything recently discussed it should be past tense.[[User:Great Bear|Great Bear]] ([[User talk:Great Bear|talk]]) 15:25, 5 May 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== KnightGalarie again ==<br />
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I don't appreciate the tone he's using [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk%3ANew_series&type=revision&diff=3160327&oldid=3160316 here]. I most certainly wasn't lying; I didn't see the first template at first. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 00:14, 6 May 2020 (UTC)<br />
:In what way is this acceptable behavior? The minute you see something you don’t like, your first thought is punishment?--[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 00:21, 6 May 2020 (UTC)<br />
::I'm already on hot water with admins for sending my own warnings to other users, so I'm not taking any chances. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 00:24, 6 May 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::But your first thought was still punishment for saying something you disagreed with. I didn’t call you names--[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 00:25, 6 May 2020 (UTC)<br />
::::You're claiming I lied, which was extremely rude and uncalled for. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 00:26, 6 May 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::::Uncalled for? You stated an easily-provable falsity in your argument. What else was I supposed to think?--[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 00:28, 6 May 2020 (UTC)<br />
::::::Very bold of you to assume I was maliciously lying when I was just distracted by other tabs on my computer at the time. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 00:31, 6 May 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::::::Which is why you acted out of malice by running to an admin after a single occurrence instead of solely talking it out with me--[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 00:32, 6 May 2020 (UTC)<br />
::::::::Because, knowing me, I was going to remind you of certain site rules, which only admins could do. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 00:34, 6 May 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::Rules that weren’t violated--[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 00:35, 6 May 2020 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::Correction, certain user etiquette. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 00:38, 6 May 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::::And yet you still thought you needed an admin to scold me --[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 00:39, 6 May 2020 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::::Because said etiquette is documented in the site rules. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 00:40, 6 May 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Attention: Rillaboom's Biology Section - Please Add Info About Its Drumsticks ==<br />
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Could you please mention where Rillaboom keeps its drumsticks? It appears that they are in the leaf-like fur near its hands (similar to how Delphox keeps its branch in the fur on its arm). <br />
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We know this Pokémon carries its drum on its back, but if we don't mention where it keeps its drumsticks, it would feel incomplete. [[User:Macpika|Macpika]] ([[User talk:Macpika|talk]]) 18:21, 10 May 2020 (UTC)<br />
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==What did I do wrong?==<br />
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I made an edit on the [[move variations]] page about adding [[m|Pika Papow]] and [[m|Veevee Volley]] to the section about [[m|Frustration]]. I edited it and added the detail about the two moves being unable to miss and it was deleted by [[u|KnightGalarie]] for “changing criteria without permission”. I don’t know what I did wrong but is there a way I can fix this so I can add these moves into the page? Or better yet, how can I get permission to change criteria without permission? I just want to be able to do better next time.<br />
[[User:PeakA|PeakA]] ([[User talk:PeakA|talk]]) 23:13, 14 May 2020 (UTC)<br />
:The criteria is in the first line of the article, which you did not change, so you're fine in that regard. In regards to those two moves being variations of Frustration, they are not. A move with 100% accuracy can still miss, where those two moves cannot miss.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 08:16, 15 May 2020 (UTC)<br />
::That’s what it was. Thank you for telling me about this. I am going to make a new section to out these moves in as I am sure they are variations of one another. Thank you for your help. Also someone mentioned for me to take down this question but I said no. Do they have permission to do that? [[User:PeakA|PeakA]] ([[User talk:PeakA|talk]]) 15:39, 15 May 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::No, they don't have permission to tell you to remove this section. I'll send a message their way.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 17:02, 15 May 2020 (UTC)<br />
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==Zeno Robinson/Ray Chase/Cherami Leigh==<br />
With their roles of Goh, Cerise and Chloe being main or major recurring characters, I was wondering if I could mainspace the pages I created for them? [[User:BigDocFan/Zeno Robinson]], [[User:BigDocFan/Ray Chase]] and [[User:BigDocFan/Cherami Leigh]]--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 09:36, 16 May 2020 (UTC)<br />
:I would say yes to all three, only because we know those characters are recurring/main characters.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 10:16, 16 May 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Idol Trainer class ==<br />
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Hello!!<br />
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[[Hibana]] isn't a even a tainer. You removed Idol characters in the anime section who are indeed trainers, idols, and use pokémon from fairy-egg group, such as [[Brittany (EP243)|Brittany]]. If you don't remove Hibana from the Anime section, you should at least add Brittany and [[Marina (Johto)|Marina]] who also are confirmed Idol in the anime. [[User:Jeangabin666|Jeangabin666]] ([[User talk:Jeangabin666|talk]]) 13:52, 16 May 2020 (UTC)<br />
:Hibana is referred to as an Idol. Brittany and Marina existed before the trainer class, so they can't be part of a trainer class that didn't exist at the time of their appearances (and Marina isn't even referred to as an Idol in her DP cameo).--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 14:24, 16 May 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Privacy cleanup ==<br />
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Hi there, just doing some Internet history cleaning for privacy reasons. Would you mind deleting my user page and its page history (and the same for talk, if that's okay), as well as wiping this edit? No need to reply, thanks. --[[user:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] 21:39, 16 May 2020 (UTC)</div>
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<div>'''Archieved talks:''' [[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92/Archive 1]] (archieved on November 5, 2015)<br />
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== XY093 errors ==<br />
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Why did you erase the error section of ''[[XY093|All Eyes on the Future!]]''? You said you disagree with them, but that doesn't make them any less of mistakes. {{m|Light Screen}} was shown protecting the male {{p|Meowstic}} from {{AP|Talonflame}}'s {{m|Flame Charge}} despite Light Screen only reducing damage from Special Attacks, like {{AP|Frogadier}}'s {{m|Water Pulse}}, not from Physical Attacks like Talonflame's Flame Charge. Later on in that episode, when Talonflame used {{m|Steel Wing}} on the male Meowstic, [[Professor Sycamore]] said that Light Screen doesn't work on Physical Attacks like Steel Wing. Later, {{an|Clemont}} claimed that {{a|Prankster}} was making {{m|Helping Hand}} a priority move when Helping Hand is already one to begin with, for Helping Hand always goes first even if the Pokémon using it didn't have Prankster as their ability. {{a|Keen Eye}} only prevents your Pokémon's accuracy from lowering and ignores an opponent's evasive stats. Professor Sycamore claimed that Psyshock was chasing Frogadier and Talonflame because the female Meostic had Keen Eye, but moments ago, you clearly see the Meowstic using Psychic to make the Psyshock go after Ash's Pokémon. That's why these are mistakes. --[[User:PKMNAdventurer|PKMNAdventurer]] ([[User talk:PKMNAdventurer|talk]]) 17:11, 8 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Finally some Colo data ==<br />
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I finally got my rear in gear with some of that [[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92/Archive 1#Colo/XD data|Colo/XD team data]]. I've got Colosseum teams now. [http://www.mediafire.com/download/t6gaudyp6atho2b/ Here's] the file.<br />
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There are some comments in the file. The file is huge... I imagine the easiest thing will be to poke around BP's pages and just search for the right Trainers in the file. If you have any questions about anything, feel free to ask. =) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 05:32, 14 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
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:Thanks a ton! I'll hopefully get on with it later today. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:56, 14 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
::I figured out a couple things I did wrong for that Colosseum data with the gender. Half is BP's Shadow and non-Shadow templates acting a bit differently when the "gender=" parameter is missing, and half is a separate mistake on my part. I'll fix that up later on and update the link above.<br />
::FYI, right now for XD, I've mostly got the story data converted (just testing a few Trainers, and finding things like that gender issue), but XD also has a good amount of data for other modes, which (with the lazy-ish way I'm doing it) will also be a bit of an annoyance to make work (mostly tedious). [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 21:43, 15 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
:::[http://www.mediafire.com/download/ra320pu97afz07x/ XD data]. I've also fixed up the Colosseum data (replaced above; if you wanna check some of the differences, try searching for Entei.)<br />
:::Colosseum's gender data is pretty straightforward, so I think it's OK now, but XD's is less so... For now for XD, I've assumed all Shadow Pokemon have a random gender (so far as they can), and everything else's gender works like I *think* it does. If you're ever in doubt, you can always try to check playthrough videos. I've done that a bit already while testing my output, and where I have, my data was right (and not just for gender; though Abilities can be hard to be sure about). [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 22:09, 17 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
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==Hyperspace Hole==<br />
Did Hoopa literally used Hyperspace Hole in the movie when it was summoning Pokémon? Because someone told me it did. [[User:Seabiscuit2020|Seabiscuit2020]] ([[User talk:Seabiscuit2020|talk]]) 20:21, 17 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
:I doubt it was Hyperspace Hole, since Hoopa Unbound did it too, and it already has four other moves. Remember, the anime has been pretty consistent with the "only four moves at a time" thing over the recent years, so... --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:40, 18 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
::That was Hyperspace Fury. It's Unbound Form doesn't use Hyperspace Hole. Only when it is in its Confined Form.[[User:Seabiscuit2020|Seabiscuit2020]] ([[User talk:Seabiscuit2020|talk]]) 06:45, 18 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
:::I know. That's what I was saying. The rings are just Hoopa's special power. Confined didn't use them as an attack, so it wasn't Hyperspace Hole. Also, Unbound used its rings the same way too, so it can't be that move. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 14:56, 18 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
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==Clemont's Inventions==<br />
Can you add the information of Clemont's inventions from [[XY088]] and [[XY089]], please? -- [[User:Seabiscuit2020|Seabiscuit2020]] ([[User talk:Seabiscuit2020|talk]]) 22:10, 22 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Old Amber ==<br />
I don't understand why there's no need for that. In gen. I there weren't key items, and it doesnt say so in the text. ( first time: 8 November 2015 9:33:45 (UTC)) [[User:Lokki|Lokki]] ([[User talk:Lokki|talk]]) 20:04, 23 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Items! ==<br />
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I just want to go into a bit more detail about why I like the order I wrote on [[Dewford Town]]. I can certainly understand reasons for liking other orderings, and it's hard to say what may be "always" best, so I think there's definitely room for discussion. =)<br />
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1) I don't think there should be any "separation" of the games (which I'm just guessing is the reason you put the Ribbon last on Dewford). I.e., I really don't like the idea of putting all the items that first appeared in RS first, then all the items that appeared in E (but not RS), then all the items that appeared in ORAS (but not RSE) (or whatever games). That's just confusing as hell in longer lists.<br />
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2) I think items should be listed by an order of traversal. Basically, pick something that at least makes ''some'' (consistent) sense, and stick to it. Basically, N to S then E to W, or E to W then N to S, or... Anyway, this one I'm kind of taking on a case-by-case, "how do I feel" sort of basis. Currently, I'm not entirely sure if it should ''very strictly'' obey the location's natural traversal (like, you first enter from N/S/E/W, so that's where the list should start), or if maybe it should always be "reading" order (left>right (E>W), top>bottom (N>S)), or what.<br />
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2b) I'm a little torn on whether accessibility requirements should affect the order things are listed in. I.e., when you first reach some places, you may not have an HM that will let you get some of the items, so any of those that you'd have to return for could be listed after all of the things you can get immediately. ...The thing that kind of tilts my opinion in this case is that, if you don't grab any items at first and only scour the town after you have all necessary HMs (like in the postgame), then a single, coherent listing of all the items is best, otherwise you may be forced to backtrack a bit for an item that needs an HM. And at the same time, with a single, coherent list, people who are only on their first visit can easily just skip those items they can't get.<br />
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These things basically seem best and simplest/most consistent all around, to me. (And simple is best. Less room for arguments; or confusion.)<br />
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(Hope all that's not too wall-of-texty... =P ) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 16:19, 6 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Aero ==<br />
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hey! How are you? :) You must know that your page was chosen to be the official [[Aero]] one. I just happen to have worked on it too ( [[User:MannedTooth/Aero]]) and wondered if there is anything you would like to add to yours? I'm thinking of the Giovanni part, since Aero technically was owned by him before Red. Anyway, take a look at that :) [[User:MannedTooth|<span style="color:#FF8000"> MannedTooth </span>]] ([[User_Talk:MannedTooth|Talk]]) 15:12, 7 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== XYZ ==<br />
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Can you add the Finnish/Swedish name origins for [[Squishy]] and lyrics/translations for [[Stand Tall]] to the [[List of Finnish Pokémon themes]] and [[List of Swedish Pokémon themes]]? Thanks! --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 04:02, 13 May 2016 (UTC)<br />
:I'd be pleased to do so if I knew where to watch those XYZ episodes. I didn't even know they had Finnish titles until just now to be honest. The previous season ended just last week or so. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 04:09, 13 May 2016 (UTC)<br />
::http://www.pokemon.com/fi/pokemon-jaksot/ and http://www.pokemon.com/se/pokemon-avsnitt/ --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 04:18, 13 May 2016 (UTC)<br />
:::Thanks! I'll get to work on them tomorrow, I am unable to watch them just now. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 04:39, 13 May 2016 (UTC)<br />
::::Also, when you get around to adding the lyrics, the titles of the songs need to go on [[Stand Tall]] in the "In other languages" section; I forgot to mention that earlier. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 17:46, 14 May 2016 (UTC)<br />
:::::Of course. I'll keep that in mind. Also, I kinda forgot to do that today, so I'll try to remember it tomorrow. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 18:02, 14 May 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Lyrics problem ==<br />
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Hello, I don't know how much Swedish you speak but I was wondering if you could take a look at Bli en hjälte and Pokémonsången XY because I can't make out the two dotted lines I left at Bli en hjälte and also the question mark at Pokémonsången XY. I'm afraid that I couldn't find Bli en hjälte on youtube, I listened to that at tv4 play, [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODba6H8vVJs&list=PL-mKIkFm-cVXWMv4Nmb_S1c9uzx1glO9E&index=3&nohtml5=False here is the link to Pokémonsången XY movie version at youtube]. Tack på förhand. --[[User:Raltseye|<span style="color:#FF6464">R</span><span style="color:#11BB11">alts</span>]][[User talk:Raltseye|<span style="color:#6890F0">e</span><span style="color:#6464FF">y</span><span style="color:#6890F0">e</span>]] 19:28, 3 June 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Stadium 2 Trainers ==<br />
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First of all, thanks for working on getting the details for the trainers in each cup, I at least really appreciate it. :) Do you have any plans to continue with work on the Gym Leader Castle trainers? Currently all of the more detailed information is scattered over about two dozen pages, and only the Gym Leaders and Rocket Executives have any detailed data. The same thing is the case for Stadium 1's GLC as well. If you weren't planning on doing anything with them, I'd probably get to it eventually, but I thought I'd check in with you first. [[User:VioletPumpkin|VioletPumpkin]] ([[User talk:VioletPumpkin|talk]]) 02:00, 21 June 2016 (UTC)<br />
:First of all, thanks for the compliment. Second, no I wasn't planning on doing anything with the GLC Trainers. Much like core series Gym Trainers, I don't think they really need any detailed info, at least not on the Gym pages. If there are separate pages for GLC Trainers, I can reconsider. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 08:09, 21 June 2016 (UTC)<br>PS. The only Cup thing that I haven't been able to completely add was the Jr. female's Squirtle's moveset in Stadium's [[Fancy Cup|Petit Cup]] Round 2. Any source material I could find incorrectly listed its moveset as the same used by the same Trainer's Meowth in Round 1, which is why it was initially missing from the otherwise already completed Trainer list for the Cup. By watching several videos, I was able to figure out three of Squirtle's moves, but the fourth one is still unknown to me. I hate incompleteness, so I'd really appreciate any kind of help. Thank you.<br />
::I understand, and agree that putting them onto the general "Pewter Gym" and similar pages might be a bit much. I'll probably try making dedicated GLC trainer pages since it feels at least as significant as the other cups to me, but I'm not sure when I'd get around to it. And thanks for the notice about the Squirtle, I'll take a closer look at it. [[User:VioletPumpkin|VioletPumpkin]] ([[User talk:VioletPumpkin|talk]]) 15:55, 22 June 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Colo/XD script (Miror B) ==<br />
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In response to [[Special:Diff/2469466|this]] lament for Miror B's quotes, you could try checking the {{DL|User:Abcboy|text dumps}} I made for Colo/XD linked on Abcboy's userpage. If you can identify enough of the quote, you can probably get the rest of what came after it. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 12:02, 10 July 2016 (UTC)<br />
:Thanks a ton! I more than appreciate your gesture! :D --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 12:14, 10 July 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Anime edits ==<br />
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Hi! Playerking95 [[User talk:Playerking95#About unnecessary edits|seems to think]] that you've been targetting him/his edits. I'd like to ask you to describe your perspective on this situation. (Please understand I make no judgement either way at this point.)<br />
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Thanks. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 14:52, 4 August 2016 (UTC)<br />
:(P.S. I'm asking you do it here rather than respond at Playerking's talk page. It could "explode" either way, but it's a bit less likely if we keep this part here for now. Thanks.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 14:53, 4 August 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== New episodes ==<br />
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In the future, please use {{template|New episode}} when creating pages for new episodes. It's fine to make another edit after substituting the template to change anything the template doesn't fill in. This prevents errors like incorrect preview threads, incorrect ordinal numbers in the intro, allows the interwiki links to be automatically generated, and helps prevent other copy-and-paste errors. Thanks! --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 15:36, 6 August 2016 (UTC)<br />
:Thanks. I had kinda forgotten that. I'll keep that in mind. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 16:00, 6 August 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Swimming to Kalos ==<br />
How on earth could that be interpreted as not the same person? A person in a game says he will do the exact same action as someone in a different game has completed, within the same generation, when we know ORAS is set before XY and has references which say as much, and it's the same trainer class, but they're different people? I legitimately dont understand how one could come to that conclusion. [[User:Smear-Gel|Smear-Gel]] ([[User talk:Smear-Gel|talk]]) 05:11, 1 September 2016 (UTC)<br />
:How about the fact that they '''don't even have the same name?''' Word that piece of trivia a bit differently, and the only thing left to fix are possible grammar errors. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 12:46, 1 September 2016 (UTC)<br />
::Well that's dumb, I didnt even consider they'd do that. Now I wonder why on earth Gamefreak would have put that effort into that easter egg and then make the names different. Not even the Japanese names are the same? Because that seems silly. Either way I guess I need to look into that and reword it before posting again. [[User:Smear-Gel|Smear-Gel]] ([[User talk:Smear-Gel|talk]]) 22:26, 1 September 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Deoxys ==<br />
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Did Deoxys use Safeguard or Protect in PG09? And did Deoxys use Recover when it regenerated itself? [[User:Seabiscuit2020|Seabiscuit2020]] ([[User talk:Seabiscuit2020|talk]]) 20:08, 28 October 2016 (UTC)<br />
:First off: I'm surprised you thought of ME of all people when deciding to ask someone. Second: I think it was Protect, but I don't think it used Recover. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 20:13, 28 October 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Edit Summaries (again) ==<br />
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You've been spoken to before about using edit summaries to vent/complain about other users in the past. Edit summaries like [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Pok%C3%A9_Ball&curid=759&diff=2526760&oldid=2526478 these] are unnecessary and does nothing to contribute to the overall project of Bulbapedia. Follow the {{bp|Code of Conduct}} at all times. Thank you. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">--Pokemaster</span>]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">97</span>]]''''' 23:44, 29 October 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Heatran ==<br />
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What moves did Heatran use in PG12? One of which looked like Protect while the first one looked like either Flamethrower or Eruption. [[User:Seabiscuit2020|Seabiscuit2020]] ([[User talk:Seabiscuit2020|talk]]) 19:43, 5 December 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Heatran and Mimikyu ==<br />
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What moves did Heatran use in PG12? One of which looked like Protect while the first one looked like either Flamethrower or Eruption. And was Mimikyu using Feint Attack or Wood Hammer in SM003? [[User:Seabiscuit2020|Seabiscuit2020]] ([[User talk:Seabiscuit2020|talk]]) 20:19, 8 December 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Trainer classes ==<br />
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It seems to me that if old information on Plasma and Flare is wrong, we should be correcting that rather than citing it as a justification for maintaining false information on Skull, don't you think? [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 20:14, 10 February 2017 (UTC)<br />
:Are you going to answer me? [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 15:51, 20 February 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Edit warring ==<br />
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I just wanna let you know part of my own personal definition of edit warring. IMO, if you revert (basically) the same edit up to two times, that may or may not be edit warring, depending on the overall situation. But if you do it a third time, that's definitely crossed a line.<br />
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That's certainly not to say that toeing that line every time would be advisable or anything. If you can settle a conflict with discussion sooner rather than later, that's definitely preferable. And you've been around long enough. You definitely should know to use talk pages for this sort of thing, rather than trying to do it all right on [[Gladion]]. Please take more care in the future. Thanks. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 22:27, 10 February 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Electric Terrain ==<br />
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The dub CCs state explicitly that Tapu Koko used the move Electric Terrain. Unless there's explicit evidence to the contrary (like if a character states that the Electric Terrain in SM002 was a result of its Ability) it should be kept on the page. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 18:17, 23 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Playthroughs in your userspace ==<br />
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I really like your playthrough section and would like to use your code to list my playthroughs in my userpage. Is that okay? [[User:Arctic|Arctic]] ([[User talk:Arctic|talk]]) 19:40, 3 May 2017 (UTC)<br />
:Of course. Go ahead. It's not like I'm the only person who's using it to begin with. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 04:19, 4 May 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Anime moves ==<br />
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It looks like you [[Special:Diff/2635947|recently added]] some moves that Playerking removed. I just want to make sure our policy on adding moves from the anime is clear: unless the move is called (or else explicitly identified after being used), don't assume.<br />
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The only moves it's tentatively acceptable to identify by animation alone are the ones listed [[User:Force Fire/List of moves with unique animations|here]]. Honestly, I don't know the scenes in question, and Hyper Beam is on that list so I don't know what to say about that; but Bite isn't.<br />
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Anyway, please keep this in mind when adding moves for the anime in the future. Thanks! [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 14:15, 4 May 2017 (UTC)<br />
:[[Special:Diff/2663846|Please remember]] the above. If you think Hydro Pump has a unique animation, consider bringing it up on the talk page Force Fire's user page. Please be careful as well about generally engaging in edit wars.<br />
:I don't think this guideline is all that hard to grasp. Please remember next time. Thanks. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 14:59, 6 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
::[[Special:Diff/2678822|This thing]] with Thunder Wave seems to be the exact same situation as Hydro Pump just above. It's been a little while since then so I'm going to remind you this once more, but if it happens again, as far as I'm concerned you will be earning a block to help you remember afterwards. If a move is not stated explicitly, do not add it; at most, ask someone. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 17:10, 17 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::''(The resposne below is technically copied from [[Special:Diff/2678964|here]].)''<br />
:::I'm sorry if I seemed arrogant or whatever by adding that {{m|Thunder Wave}} use. However, I would like to assure you that I've learned my lesson: I don't add too ambiguous moves without them being confirmed anymore. However, this case wasn't ambiguous at all in my mind: the animation used for the move was identical to the one used in the {{series|XY}}, you can check it out yourself if you want. A couple other users have also already left agreeing opinions to T-Wave's talk page. Do you give me the permission to restore my edit? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 04:30, 18 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::Please keep conversations in one place.<br />
::::In case it wasn't clear after all, this isn't about adding moves that are "too ambiguous". This is about adding moves that are ''not explicitly stated''. If such a move is not on Force Fire's user page, don't add it. Neither Hydro Pump nor Thunder Wave were on that page. You're welcome to ask, but it's not your judgement to make. Ask. Always ask.<br />
::::Thanks. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 05:48, 18 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::::The point my friend is trying to make is that Thunder Wave is a completely unique animation and, without a doubt, SHOULD be added to Force Fire's page. [[User:05308|<font color="blue">Diamond</font>]] [[Lanturn (Pokémon)|<font color="yellow">Lanturn</font>]] [[User talk:05308|<font color="red">CodeName: 05308</font>]] 09:43, 18 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::::For Tiddlywinks: That sounds pretty complicated. I recall that it hasn't always been like that, which is probably why I'm having tough times adapting to this way of doing things. Also, I think that having to wait for an agreement on any unspoken move or Ability's identity sounds really boring, and it feels to me like a legit fact is being withheld from the site for no good reason. But it seems I have no choice but to submit...<br><br />
::::::For 05308: Yeah, I agree that it should be done ASAP.<br />
::::::PS. Sorry for rambling. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 11:12, 18 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::::::I understand your point, 05308; it's still ''your'' opinion and not your decision to make. I hope you follow the same guidelines: ask. Thanks. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 15:34, 18 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::::::Hol on a minute, is a "point" or an "opinion"- the animation for Thunder Wave that has been used throughout the XY series (And now in the Sun and Moon series) IS a unique animation. That is a fact and not an opinion. Even if you want to argue that what Murkrow used was Upproar, and the animation was (for some reason) exactly the same as Thunder Wave's animation in XY. Thunder Wave's animation in XY was factually unique. Force Fire has acknowledged the list is unfinished so Thunder Wave's absence from the list is not invocative of Thunder Wave not having a unique animation. Don't patronize me with nonsense about everything being an opinion. Thunder Wave should be on the list for its XY (and SM) animation- that's not an opinion. [[User:05308|<font color="blue">Diamond</font>]] [[Lanturn (Pokémon)|<font color="yellow">Lanturn</font>]] [[User talk:05308|<font color="red">CodeName: 05308</font>]] 19:38, 18 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::''It's not your judgement to make''.<br />
:::::::::If we just go, sure, we're sure you're right, then we have to allow anyone's opinion about anything. We're not opening that can of worms or we'll just have basically the same as we did before and/or more edit wars.<br />
:::::::::This isn't hard: just ask. I hope you understand. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 19:56, 18 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::If I may intrude, 05308, I think Tiddlywinks' point that you aren't understanding is that because it's not on the list ''yet'', we must wait until it has been added to the list ''before'' we can add it based on appearance. It's not about whether Thunder Wave might or might not be something else, it's about jumping through the proper hoops even with things you think are "obvious" so that there isn't a precedent for cutting corners in the future when someone decides something else is "obvious" and gets it wrong. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 21:37, 18 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
I absolutely understand the thing about not assuming moves and all that comes with it- I don't always agree but whatever. However, Thunder Wave did have a unique animation in XY- that is a fact and not an opinion. I don't care what you put on any of the pages, but opinions and facts are different. If being an admin means you'll not admit you're wrong even at the expense of showing you can understand very simple concepts- you are not doing a good job. <br />
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I apologise that all this has to happen on FinnishPokéfan's page. [[User:05308|<font color="blue">Diamond</font>]] [[Lanturn (Pokémon)|<font color="yellow">Lanturn</font>]] [[User talk:05308|<font color="red">CodeName: 05308</font>]] 22:03, 18 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
:Come on... Look. I'm not saying Thunder Wave isn't a unique move&mdash;I'm not making any judgement on that score. Okay? I'm saying your judgement doesn't decide whether it can be added as "unique". I hope you understand. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 22:51, 18 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
::I understand, I've understood since before I interjected into to conversation, but you keep saying "I hope you understand" and that makes it look like I don't understand. Please stop. By the by, I realise what I said about "simple concepts" would come across quite rude so I apologise for that. [[User:05308|<font color="blue">Diamond</font>]] [[Lanturn (Pokémon)|<font color="yellow">Lanturn</font>]] [[User talk:05308|<font color="red">CodeName: 05308</font>]] 23:04, 18 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::I feel pretty safe in saying that "I hope you understand" doesn't usually mean literally understand the concepts; it usually means more like "I hope you understand where we're coming from (and can accept it)"... I'm not trying to belittle you, I'm trying to be polite. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 23:24, 18 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::Bureaucracy at its finest. ''Nothing'' goes ''anywhere'' without first being signed in triplicate, sent in, sent back, queried, lost, found, subjected to public inquiry, lost again, and finally buried in soft peat for three months and recycled as firelighters. This is honestly getting kinda ridiculous. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:43, 19 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Image ==<br />
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I removed the image because out of all the Sun&Moon capture episodes, this was the only one to have it. I thought that images were not suppose to go there.-- --[[User:Handmaiden 101|<span style="color:red">Handmaiden 101</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:Handmaiden 101|<span style="color:red">tAlk</span>]])''</small> 18:29, 6 May 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Cleanup ==<br />
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Noticed a few episodes I have created synopsis' for have received a cleanup requirement, any advice on how to clean it up, checked the manual but can't quite understand in relation to my synopsis'--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 15:04, 10 May 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Code of Conduct ==<br />
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Over the last several years, you've had many talk page message left by various staff members about following the Code of Conduct and remaining respectful in edit summaries. As you [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=List_of_Sun_%26_Moon_series_episodes&curid=217082&diff=2664255&oldid=2664243 demonstrated here] this message hasn't reached you. I understand you may disagree or have conflicts with other users, but behavior of this nature creates a very abrasive and non-inviting atmosphere on Bulbapedia. Please take 3 days off and when you return, make it an effort to be more conscious of our policies. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">--Pokemaster</span>]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">97</span>]]''''' 21:29, 7 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Conduct ==<br />
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In [[Special:Diff/2669087|your recent comment]] to Playerking, you appear to have tried to avoid directly insulting Playerking, but you quite failed. You did not at all need that line before the "PS". Attempting to disclaim it at the end doesn't make it "OK", it's still an insult. Be careful about how your passions sway you in the future. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 13:49, 20 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
:My apologies. I guess since I was having a sort of bad mood at the moment (walking outside in a rain and so forth) I wanted to vent that bad mood into that insult. But I fully admit, it was inappropriate, and I apologize. I tried to avoid being rude, but it seems I didn't quite make it all the way through. I promise I'll do my best to avoid this in the future. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 14:08, 20 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Edit Warring ==<br />
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Rather than [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Kiawe%27s_Marowak&diff=2670213&oldid=2670210 complaining about it in the edit summary], try using the talk pages to sort out issues. They are there for a reason. You've been here long enough to know not to edit war. Regarding the trivia, you're stretching the trivia too far to make it notable.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#F1912B">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#F6B775">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#5599CA">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#90BDDC">ire</span>]] 14:59, 22 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Talk pages ==<br />
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Rather than trying to sort out disagreements using the edit summaries, go to the user's talk page and discuss it there. Going back and forth in the edit summaries is a futile attempt and comes off as edit warring. Thank you.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#F1912B">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#F6B775">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#5599CA">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#90BDDC">ire</span>]] 03:36, 28 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Direct linking ==<br />
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I'm not gonna try to argue with you because it's clear you won't listen. But I just want to ask you this: what is the point of the staff ruling on something if you're just going to ignore the ruling and say you "don't care" about it? [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 16:29, 25 September 2017 (UTC)<br />
:Sorry, that's just how I can be when I'm in a grumpy. I know it doesn't justify anything, and I apologize. I just get irritated when I see redirect links being added on purpose. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 16:34, 25 September 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== DJ Leo ==<br />
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Were the Dugtrio's names the same in the Finnish dub as in the English? --[[User:Raltseye|<span style="color:#FF6464">R</span><span style="color:#11BB11">alts</span><span style="color:#6464FF">eye</span>]] [[User talk:Raltseye|prata med mej]] 15:30, 28 October 2017 (UTC)<br />
:Nope. They're the same as the Swedish ones. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 16:56, 28 October 2017 (UTC)<br />
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==Hey==<br />
Goes without saying, I'm glad that Bulbapedia is unlocked once more--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 09:58, 4 January 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Agreed. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 10:00, 4 January 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== hello ==<br />
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Hello, well, I'm new to the page and I wanted to know what is the error of my grammar, I do not see anything wrong, I just wanted to know what are the mistakes friend.<br />
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--[[User:Grizzlyring123|Grizzlyring123]] ([[User talk:Grizzlyring123|talk]]) 11:47, 7 January 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Sorry if this sounds harsh, but your grammar is unsuitable for Bulbapedia's standards. Not using big capital letters when needed is just one of your many problems. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:51, 8 January 2018 (UTC)<br />
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Well, I'm sorry, my English is not so good, but I can fix it<br />
--[[User:Grizzlyring123|Grizzlyring123]] ([[User talk:Grizzlyring123|talk]]) 11:47, 7 January 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Help please ==<br />
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I would like to be able to edit my profile, but since I am a user I can not do it and it is frustrating. How can I change user to another rank? I want to edit my profile.<br />
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I've seen other people if they can<br />
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--Grizzlyring123 (talk) 12:16, 8 January 2018 (UTC)<br />
:If you want to edit your user page, just click the red link on your user name. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 06:18, 8 January 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Finnish name ==<br />
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I'm sort of iffy on this one, could you check if it adds up? [[Special:diff/2734483]] --[[User:Raltseye|<span style="color:#FF6464">R</span><span style="color:#11BB11">alts</span><span style="color:#6464FF">eye</span>]] [[User talk:Raltseye|prata med mej]] 13:11, 22 January 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Yeah, that wasn't right at all. Thanks for asking. Also, it's just a direct translation of "Repel" instead of "Max Repel", so I took the liberty of removing it from that page. If you wish for me to add the correct translation to [[Repel]]'s page, I can gladly do that. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 14:05, 22 January 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Yeah, why not? The Swedish and Danish are litterally both just "Insect spray" anyway, I'll move them too. --[[User:Raltseye|<span style="color:#FF6464">R</span><span style="color:#11BB11">alts</span><span style="color:#6464FF">eye</span>]] [[User talk:Raltseye|prata med mej]] 16:15, 22 January 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Update Snap Articuno ==<br />
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Hi,<br />
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https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Articuno_(Fossil_2)&diff=0&oldid=2737190<br />
The information on the trivia section is incorrect as the card will have the SNAP writing on the bottom as seen on a copy I have recently purchase from Japan - https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/m224480649<br />
This is misinformation from the old pokemon book which had the wrong scans inside it which didnt have the writing on 3 of the card Squirtle, Charmander and Articuno. I had purchased a squirtle and charmander S~nap promo and forwarded scans for you to update a couple months back and will do the same once the articuno is in my hands. Il send the scans through the discord server as last time.<br />
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https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:CharmanderSnapBestPhotoContest.jpg /https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:SquirtleSnapBestPhotoContest.jpg As you can see I provided the scans for both of the updated images.<br />
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Any problems and information you require just let me know.<br />
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[[User:Onlycollectables|Onlycollectables]] ([[User talk:Onlycollectables|talk]]) 12:37, 29 January 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Edit summaries ==<br />
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Could you please stop with the semi-aggressive edit summaries, like the "Please" and "No, no, no" that you commonly do. If you have a problem with someone's reading and writing skills, you can go to the user's talk page and correct them on their errors. Do understand that there are some users who first language is not English, so errors are bound to appear. Thank you.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#F1912B">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#F6B775">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#5599CA">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#90BDDC">ire</span>]] 04:20, 16 February 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Bone Rush edit ==<br />
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I apologize, I was looking at the wrong section. That said, I think the 'Incomplete' tag belongs in the 'In other generations' section, as that is where the Gen VI image is missing from {{unsigned|Bg samm}}<br />
:I can understand that. Just be careful not to make this kind of mistakes in the future. Also, don't forget to sign your comments on talk pages. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:03, 2 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Item availability ==<br />
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I'd argue that since Po Town is only accessible in Sun, Moon, Ultra Sun, and Ultra Moon(as of right now), someone would know that an item is available in all those versions without it having to be stated outright.--[[User:Voltdetector|Voltdetector]] ([[User talk:Voltdetector|talk]]) 13:08, 17 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I was merely trying to avoid confusion, so that people don't mistake that the note saying "USUM" would be referring to ''both'' items, instead of just the latter. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 13:20, 17 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
::You could simply put the Team Skull Cap first, I feel that could resolve the problem just as well.--[[User:Voltdetector|Voltdetector]] ([[User talk:Voltdetector|talk]]) 03:04, 18 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Platinum's Froslass ==<br />
Do you want [[User:FinnishPokéFan92/Platinum's Froslass]] to be mainspaced? If so ask [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] to do it. I'll also stop creating redirect links. [[User:Reinhartmax|Reinhartmax]] ([[User talk:Reinhartmax|talk]]) 11:53, 20 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Thanks. I'll do so. And thanks for hearing me out. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 11:56, 20 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Do you plan on asking him anytime soon? [[User:Reinhartmax|Reinhartmax]] ([[User talk:Reinhartmax|talk]]) 18:57, 25 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::I meant to ask during the weekend, but forgot. I'll get to it at some point, I haven't forgotten about it. Don't worry. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:03, 26 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Undoing linking edits ==<br />
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We were talking about this before, and as far as I'm concerned, my conclusion was to respect you and your position even though I don't really understand all of it. And because you do have a point that, at any specific point in time, {{template|DL}}s are typically better than redirect links, I've refrained from going to any page in order to only change links there when I have no intention to create the item article(s) myself soonish. It's just a matter of time, though, since all (regular) items are going to receive independent articles in the near future (hopefully). Not sure if you knew this, but now you do, please be aware that I don't really see the point in changing links to future articles back to DLs as adamantly as you have done. That's essentially two extra edits (and I'm trying to minimize edits), and more future work.<br />
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To answer [[Special:Diff/2754146|your specific question]]: I've asked a staff member who has the appropriate powers to mainspace articles on both "Bottle Cap" and "Gold Bottle Cap" that already exist in the userspace. You will see my motivation when you think of what would happen if these are mainspaced ''before'' the links are changed: text that says "Gold Bottle Cap" would link to a page that does not cover "Gold Bottle Cap", and that's to be avoided. (And I didn't look for pages with only <code><nowiki>{{DL|Bottle Cap|Bottle Cap}}</nowiki></code> but without <code><nowiki>{{DL|Bottle Cap|Gold Bottle Cap}}</nowiki></code>, because the first one technically ''can'' be changed later, which I understand you prefer.)<br />
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So, please, try to not only see your position, and try to avoid edit wars, for I can assure you I try to do the same. If any of ''my'' edits are of serious concern, I will probably have a reason, and some others probably have, too. And before anything else, please don't just undo, and don't undo and ask for clarification in the edit summary; I know you know where my talk page is. Thanks! [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 16:33, 20 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
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:I've had some (kinda sorta) paperwork to do today, so I'm going to be brief here: I apologize for my apparent selfishness. It's a trait I have that is not intentional, and I didn't mean to offend you. I understand now. Thanks for explaining. (PS. I had kinda already forgotten about this whole thing already, in fact, so this came just a little bit out of the blue.) --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 16:39, 20 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
::You're welcome, and thanks for understanding. (I wasn't offended anyway, there's no hard feelings.) [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 16:45, 20 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Good. No hard feelings on either side. Let's hope you'll get those item pages done soon. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 16:48, 20 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Violet City ==<br />
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Why are you continually undoing changes that make the page more accurate and precise? Retrogression = Evil, are you trying to be evil?<br />
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[[User:Monsterhart|monsterhart]] ([[User talk:Monsterhart|talk]]) 09:54, 5 April 2018 (PT)<br />
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In the future if you notice a formatting error in 1 part of a multipart edit where the other part(s) are simply corrections to text, edit the page and fix the formatting of that one part. Don't just undo the entire edit, leave it alone and let someone else fix it if you don't feel like fixing the mistake properly. I eventually figured out the mistake and fixed it myself anyway. <br />
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[[User:Monsterhart|monsterhart]] ([[User talk:Monsterhart|talk]]) 10:57, 5 April 2018 (PT)<br />
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:1) Whoa! That's a bit too much. There's no reason to be rude. 2) Except that you didn't. You only added one item instead of the complete Rock Smash item list. However, I ''do'' thank you for noticing that Violet City had a smashable rock which Bulbapedia had forgotten to mention. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 06:20, 6 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
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::1) Why didn’t you answer my question? How is it too much to ask if your intention is to hurt the website rather than improve it? And is it considered rude to ask someones intentions now? Where I’m from asking someones intentions is how issues are resolved and thus is seen as a sign of maturity, not rudeness. <br />
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::2) Except that I did, which you know because in your most recent edit in order to worsen the grammar you edited the same thing which was the other thing I had edited. I changed it from “On the grey island...” to “In the upper left of the grey island...” which I made to improve the website after spending a significant amount of time searching the entire island and it being in the last place I looked. You were undoing this the entire time too, and it shows you what has been changed so I don’t understand how you could have actually missed it and assume you are just lying for some reason... Further more you changed it to “On the upper left side of the small grey island...” which adds an unnecessary word (more reading without improved clarity is a detriment) and changes a correct word to an incorrect one. Though in your defense that is a common mistake for ESL learners, at least I’m assuming Finnish is your first language. <br />
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::So why would you undo that? In my second message and on I then knew you were undoing it because of the rock smash thing but I didn’t know that at the time I wrote the first message. Also I’ve played HG twice and SS once and all 3 times I found a Heart Scale in that exact rock, so I assumed it was a permanent fixture rather than just a random event. <br />
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::So the only reason I was able to imagine that you would be undoing my post is because you wanted the website to not progress, but instead of just reporting you I did the mature thing in recognizing that it could be for some practical reason I was unable to imagine and asked you in the most concise way I could think of (because people on the internet vehemently insist on conciseness 99.9% of the time) if what I thought was truly the case or if you had some other reason for it. Which it turns out you did have a good reason, at least for part of it. You’ve yet to give me a good reason for why you were also undoing my clarity change for that specific item though.<br />
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::[[User:Monsterhart|monsterhart]] ([[User talk:Monsterhart|talk]]) 10:27, 6 April 2018 (PT)<br />
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:::I'll be as brief as possible with my answer: I'm not trying to be evil or prevent this site from progressing, quite the opposite, in fact. I'm merely trying to keep the quality as close to Bulbapedia's standards as possible. And you can see that your most recent edit on the page was reversed by one of the higher-ranking members of this site, meaning that you may have to broaden your views on how to improve this site. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 17:47, 6 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
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::::He clearly did that to be offensive. He was flaunting his authority in order to punish me for “attacking” you (as he stated on my talk page) even though I clearly did not do that. Such a thing is an abuse of power and does not mean that I was wrong about this.<br />
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::::Edit: However I do feel that the situation on the Violet City page between the two of us is more or less resolved, and no longer feel the need to further discuss it with you. If you really were offended by the wording of my initial question I apologize, that was not my intention. My intention was to express my perspective on your actions and give you the opportunity to present an alternative possibility, so as to lead to the resolution of the “undo war” between us which was indeed the result. <br />
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::::[[User:Monsterhart|monsterhart]] ([[User talk:Monsterhart|talk]]) 11:44, 6 April 2018 (PT)<br />
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== SM052 Complaint ==<br />
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"Not good enough for Bulbapedia's standards"? Dude, I left that incomplete stub tag there for a reason. The plot was still incomplete. I was gonna go back to add more and you went and deleted it entirely, all because it's not good enough for Bulbapedia's standards? How could the plot I put in, which was incomplete as the stub stated, be not good enough for Bulbapedia's standards? You have to be more specific than that, or do you insist the plot remains blank until its fully complete? You sir, have no disrespect for those who were just trying to help. Now thanks to you, I lost motivation to work on that page. [[User:Char89|Char89]] ([[User talk:Char89|talk]]) 05:16, 21 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Whoa! No need to be aggressive! Just leaving the synopsis temporarily incomplete wasn't the problem. (I've done some synopsises in bits myself, too.) The problem was your grammar. ''That'' was the thing I felt wasn't up to code. Sorry. I know you want to help, but if your help isn't good enough, it will just take other users' time in fixing it. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:21, 21 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
::My grammar? You mean to tell me, the plot I've written on that page was deleted because of my grammar? What are you, an English teacher? What the heck's wrong with my grammar that causes you to delete it? And don't think I don't notice the other complaints you've been receiving. I've seen users upset with you because you delete their edits because of "Bulbapedia's standards." If it violates the standards, then let the admins handle it. You're making a bad reputation for yourself by being the grammar nazi here. I was only trying to contribute to the wiki, but instead you undo my edit saying my grammar is bad. What a waste of my time. Listen, if you don't stop deleting pages because it doesn't meet the standards, sooner or later someone will report you to the admin. You want to talk grammar, here's something. "Synopsises" is not even a real word. [[User:Char89|Char89]] ([[User talk:Char89|talk]]) 05:39, 21 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Core Series games Quotes ==<br />
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I'm currently doing a overhaul of all the quotes for NPCs for all core series games from Kanto to Alola. For Colress, the line for Route 8 after becoming the Champion "Genesect is a..." only happens when a player selects "I don't", and not for "I do!". And last time, we have decided against bold-ing the words in a "scream" speech balloon. As for the linking of references to other characters or items, I'll have to ask if we are doing the linking or not (well, I predict they'll say it doesn't matter). If yes, I'll have to apply this to all other NPCs. If not, all links references will be removed. Cheers! — '''[[User:Ruixiang95|<span style="color:#1E90FF;">Ruixiang</span>]][[User talk:Ruixiang95|<span style="color:#4B0082;">95</span>]]''' 08:50, 30 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Sorry. I just got a little carried away. I can easily get arrogant towards people who are doing stuff I at first glance deem wrong. I apologize. It's a characteristic of mine that needs some SERIOUS work. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 09:31, 30 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Re: {{t|Dragon}} trivia. ==<br />
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Another page ''used to'' have trivia like that, but not anymore. Also, if we say that Dragon has been combined with every type except Bug, shouldn't we say Grass has been combined with every type except Fire? (We say that Water and Flying have been combined with every type in their lists of Pokémon). [[User:Dinosauramiable|Dinosauramiable]] ([[User talk:Dinosauramiable|talk]]) 12:15, 11 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
:If that fact is indeed true, I see why not. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 12:18, 11 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
It's already listed there. [[User:Dinosauramiable|Dinosauramiable]] ([[User talk:Dinosauramiable|talk]]) 20:13, 11 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== File name mistake on the Archives ==<br />
I accidentally uploaded a file to "BW076 original trailer.png" when I meant to put "SM076 original trailer.png." Are you able to fix it, please? [[User:The Great Butler|The Great Butler]] ([[User talk:The Great Butler|talk]]) 04:40, 25 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I'd love to help you, but I can't. Only admins are allowed to move image file names. Ask one of them if they could help. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 04:57, 25 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
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==Adding legendary stats==<br />
I am planning to add the stats of the legendary Pokémon encounters that are uncatchable (eg. fused Kyurem, fused Necrozma, Ultra Necrozma). [[User:Jskylinegtr|Jskylinegtr]] ([[User talk:Jskylinegtr|talk]]) 05:43, 26 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Sorry, but the higher-ups have said no to this kind of stuff before and now. Talk with them if you want to. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:50, 26 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Poke ball on Route 104 ==<br />
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It requires going through a certain section of Petalburg Woods, and doesn't that section require cut? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 19:39, 26 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I checked it, and it doesn't. Next time, please check stuff like this before making an edit. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 03:38, 27 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
::You're right. Sorry. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 04:05, 27 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Shadow Hold ==<br />
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Why did you delete my edit? [[Shadow Hold]] IS similar to [[Spirit Shackle]] in the way it prevents opponents from switching out.<br />
:All they have in common is that they trap the opposing Pokémon. That's it. Shadow Hold doesn't even do damage like Spirit Shackle. Besides, they were released four Generations apart. PS. Please use link templates to avoid redirect links. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 06:17, 30 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Protecting moves ==<br />
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Why did you delete my edits on Protecting moves failing? If both mons use Protect in the same turn, then the move for the mon that protects last fails. I described this and, instead of fixing it yourself because I have bad grammar or something, you deleted it; your reasoning was that it "Needs a bit of adjusting... " Here is a link to why that information is important in battle: https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7randombattle-767832306 (skip to turn 19). {{unsigned|Dawkamist}}<br />
:It's not that I don't believe the validity of your information. I just think you didn't do those edits properly, like placing the text in improper places, and not putting links where they should be. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 04:42, 28 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Unique moves ==<br />
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The point of not presuming a move is for people not to presume they know best. You may think this or that case is COMPLETELY obvious, but if we allow one person to get by because something is "obvious", that just leaves room for someone else to think they know best too and complain if it was okay for someone else but not them. The whole point is to just cut out ANY possibility for such arguments by ONLY acknowledging moves that have been explicitly named or (at least tentatively) explicitly approved otherwise.<br />
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Mind Blown has not been approved. You cannot assume that it should be.<br />
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It may be very possible that Mind Blown will be approved, but that's not ''your'' decision. Ask. Ask anyone on staff. Then we'll decide what's warranted.<br />
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[[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 13:48, 29 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Clean Up messages ==<br />
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Hi FinnishPokéFan92,<br />
<br />
I've noticed you have placed several clean up messages on a few of the plot summaries that I have posted. While other users have cleaned up several other Sun and Moon episode plots, I've noticed that SM063 and SM068 are yet to be cleaned up, as well as an earlier alert posted on Morty's Gengar. It would be of great assistance if you can point out what glaring issues that are required to be cleaned up, I'm afraid that I cannot see any issues, and maybe other users cannot either. Plus the feedback would also help me for my future edits going forward.<br />
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Also thank you for the work you have been doing on various associated anime pages. I appreciated the note of feedback on the Cinnabar Island page as it allowed me to put the right information on the right pages.[[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 14:37, 29 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
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Thanks for the compliment!<br><br />
The thing is, I just find that the language in some synopsises is kinda clunky and does not flow too well. I would want to help fixing them, but, to be perfectly blunt, I don't usually have the patience or attention span required for that kind of thing. Sorry. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 16:08, 29 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
:: Flow - that gives me some direction to follow. Thanks [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 16:43, 29 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== SM081 ==<br />
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I was wondering why you removed the Battle Royal part from the major events. I would think a battle like that would be important enough. {{unsigned|Rahl}}<br />
:I don't see it being as important to the overall plot of the series as Ash's previous matches with the Masked Royal. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 19:05, 5 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Stub Removal ==<br />
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Hi FinnishPokéFan92,<br />
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I and GrammarFreak01 have been busy editing several stub pages in the hope of having them be removed from the stub list. I thought it was best that a third party, like yourself, do the evaluation and hopefully the removal of such messages? Or is there someone else who is in charge of such a procedure? [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 04:15, 9 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Oh? Was supposed to be decided by somebody else? Sorry. I didn't know. I just figured that those pages seemed long enough to not be considered stubs anymore. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 04:19, 9 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:: I'm afraid they hadn't been evaluated yet. Here are the pages: <br />
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*[[Absentia Natural Park]]<br />
*[[Ephraim's parents]]<br />
*[[Alex's grandfather]]<br />
*[[Angus]]<br />
*[[Corina]]<br />
*[[Betty]]<br />
*[[Delbert]]<br />
*[[Gail]]<br />
*[[Luna Carson]]<br />
*[[cliff]]<br />
*[[Kingdom of the Vale]]<br />
*[[Galea]]<br />
*[[Fitzwilliam]]<br />
*[[Connally]]<br />
*[[Edmund]]<br />
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Thanks [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 04:29, 9 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::I'm sorry, but I really didn't need that list. I didn't even ask for it. I merely apologized for not knowing that the removal of the "stub" template apparently requires a third party decision (if that indeed is the case, because I've never even heard of it before). In either case, that list is completely unnecessary for me. Just so that you know. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 04:51, 9 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::I'd misinterpreted your earlier comment. And I am not aware of needing a third party to remove stubs, I just assumed that may be the case, apologies for the confusion.[[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 04:57, 9 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::Good. So no harm done. Apology accepted. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:08, 9 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::I found information on the stub removal policy. It clarified that if a page was filled with enough information the stub alert could be deleted. For some other features like voice actor's or a new image an incomplete alert could be placed instead. [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 06:01, 9 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
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I think all you need to do to remove stubs is to add verifiable information to it that might've been originally missing. That's all. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 08:06, 9 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Route 112 trivia ==<br />
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When someone adds trivia that's good but has bad grammar, you're supposed to correct the grammar, right? Not delete it completely? Anyway, what was wrong with my trivium? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 20:26, 17 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:The grammar wasn't up to code, the title was done the wrong way... I admit. It was late and I simply didn't feel up to just fixing it, so I took the easier route. But whatever the case, it wasn't up to code. The piece of trivia itself may very well have been valid, but the way you tried to add it to the page was inadequate. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 04:33, 18 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
::I re-added it. Is it better now? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 05:06, 18 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Almost. The title was a bit off, but I fixed it. Now it should be fine. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:16, 18 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::Thanks for not deleting it this time. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 05:31, 18 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::The mistakes were much more easier to fix up and I wasn't as tired as before, so it was no problem. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:39, 18 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Route 5 Cut link ==<br />
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I'm trying my best, but I can't for the life of me think of any good reason to remove a link to {{m|Cut}} on the [[Kalos Route 5]] page. Is there some Bulbapedia policy that discourages linking to moves in that context? Or one that encourages scouring page histories to undo any revision that didn't add ''enough'' to the article? I was under the impression that minor edits were allowed. And if it were up to me, I'd say the only revisions that should be undone are ones that make an article worse. — [[User:Randomwaffle23|Randomwaffle23]] ([[User talk:Randomwaffle23|talk]]) 02:20, 23 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Oh, minor edits are allowed. We just don't tend to add links to Trainer template divider titles. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 06:31, 23 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Why? — [[User:Randomwaffle23|Randomwaffle23]] ([[User talk:Randomwaffle23|talk]]) 14:31, 23 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Why not? Besides, the links to those moves also exist elsewhere on the page. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 16:17, 23 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::"Why not?" Because links can be helpful, that's why we have them. And I really, truly doubt that duplicating links is the issue, because if it were, we wouldn't allow [[Kalos Route 18#West of the river|fifty-one duplicate links in a single table]]. The most relevant portion of the [[Bulbapedia:Manual of style#Article titles|manual of style]] recommends to "only link to an article once within a given portion of text". I assume a portion of text means a paragraph, bullet point, table cell, or the like, not a whole article. "''Instances further apart may be linked to more than once.''" (The [[wp:Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Linking#Repeated links|corresponding Wikipedia policy]] is that "a link may be repeated in infoboxes, ''tables'', […] and at the first occurrence after the lead.")<br />
::::The question you should ask yourself when undoing an edit is, ''How did this edit make the article worse?'' You need a better answer than "why not". — [[User:Randomwaffle23|Randomwaffle23]] ([[User talk:Randomwaffle23|talk]]) 17:24, 23 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::Whoa! You were more versed in this than I would've guessed. I'll be honest with you, I just saw that your edit was poorly made (as well as unnecessary for the reasons I gave above), so I deleted it. Sorry. But I still stand by my point: there's no need for it. It's perfectly fine to have repeated move links in the item templates and such, but there's no need to start adding move links to where they have never existed, such as the Trainer template divider titles. So may I please ask you to let this go? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 17:31, 23 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::I'm curious what you mean when you say the edit was "poorly made". I took care to include an HTML span tag to make sure the link stayed white instead of turning blue, since blue would've looked poor on the dark background. (The <nowiki>{{m|Cut}}</nowiki> template doesn't allow tags like that, which is why I didn't use it.) The only way someone would even have noticed the link is if they wanted to click it, or if they were scouring the page history.<br />
::::::At this point don't really care anymore whether the thing's linked or not. I'm not gonna re-link it. I just want to convince you not to undo any more people's contributions without a better reason than "because I personally wouldn't have bothered making this edit". Can we agree to that? — [[User:Randomwaffle23|Randomwaffle23]] ([[User talk:Randomwaffle23|talk]]) 18:50, 23 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::Hey, I swear that has NEVER been my (main) reason for undoing edits. Most of the time, there hs been a very good reason for it, only in a small minority have I done it for personal disagreement. Also, I recommend you learn to use the {{template|color}} and {{template|color2}} templates. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 19:02, 23 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::If that's not the reason, then what is? I can't think what the difference might be between an "unnecessary" edit and one that's not worth bothering to make. And if it's because I didn't use the template, why would you undo rather than improve? Adding {{template|color2}} is easy. I didn't know about the template, but you did, and that's why wikis are collaborative.<br />
::::::::[[wp:Help:Reverting#Before reverting|Undoing a good-faith edit is invalidating someone's attempt to help the wiki,]] which discourages them from contributing in the future. It should be done ''only'' when there's no feasible way to improve their contribution instead. — [[User:Randomwaffle23|Randomwaffle23]] ([[User talk:Randomwaffle23|talk]]) 21:09, 23 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::Geez! Based on your edit that I undid, I jumped to conclusions and assumed you were just a new user who didn't know their stuff, but clearly I was wrong! I'm sorry. Also, I'm not defending those edits that I've done for personal disagreements rather than solid reasons. I was being kinda stupid at those times. And hey, I hope those new templates will come in handy for you! --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:41, 24 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== "That is only if we have more Team Skull Grunts than them" ==<br />
No it isn't. Look at BW114 and SM025's pages. It's listed because they're a part of the collection of Grunts. [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]]) 14:50, 26 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Thanks for pointing those out. I fixed them now. That is only used if more than the named Grunts appear in an episode. Otherwise, that's misleading. And it applies to other groups of people as well. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 15:49, 26 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== SM083 ==<br />
<br />
Hi,<br />
<br />
Just saw the large undoing, which wasn't required.<br />
<br />
I was about to apologize, and have also just re-checked you edits but they are reading in unnecessary information and grammatical errors that my edition had previously fixed. The reason for the drastic changes was largely due words ending in -ing, which are typically avoided to give the sentences more of an present tense than sounding like you are in midst of an action. And I noticed a few of the links were missing. Though I must commend you on the detail, an edit summary with over 10,000 bytes usually indicates an action packed episode and I feel you were able to capture that. I apologize for the sudden changes, but saw that they were needed. I wouldn't view the changes as a complete re-write, as I didn't have to add anything to the actual plot, it was literally just editing the sentences which in some were sometimes too long (I make the same error as well).[[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 11:35, 28 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I haven't had time and currently don't have time to sort out who's in the right or in the wrong here but I do know you both need to stop edit warring. It accomplishes nothing, so talk it out here or on the article's talk page. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 11:50, 28 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
::To clarify the situation, FinnishPokeFan92 became overwhelmed with all of my changes which were grammar based and undid everything by republished his old edition. I later found out and re-added them, with some of his later ones in mind as the same issues had persisted from earlier.[[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 11:56, 28 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::I had actually only ''mostly'' undone your edit earlier today, modifying some of the parts you had added to better fit into the synopsis, while readding some stuff that I feel was unnecessarily removed or removing some overly detailed parts. GrammarFreak01 had actually already redone a lot of your edits when I plastered my own version on top of their version, but they took it well. Let's be honest here: your intentions were good, but you also ended up adding a lot of new errors in the process, replacing the mistakes that were already being fixed. You should try just fixing the mistakes instead of rewriting the entire synopsis, unless the mistakes simply are that extensive. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 12:18, 28 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::: I streamlined the plot to reduce some of the sentence lengths and also some of the unnecessary details such as characters asking questions. GrammarFreak01 made some structural changes which were incorporated and I re-added some of your edits, prior to me reading the edited plot summary that I had earlier done as yes, there were in fact a few wrong words used by me. The sentences that were re-written was because the tense was wrong (words ending in -ing are usually avoided, but were throughout the old edition), not the information. And some words don't work well in the same sentence with just a change of tense, so a sentence has to be reconfigured to account for that.[[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 12:32, 28 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::Please note that I saw your re added segments to the plot line, despite them having been removed for good reasons. I will not be making any further changes despite my previously outlined reasons for the deletions.<br />
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:::::Now my real issue is with your snide comments on the SM084 and SM085 pages and again leaving another useless "not up to standards" template. Whether those are of a personal nature or not, please note that actual feedback for both myself and for PKMN Trainer Ryan who added the respective plots is required to ensure such errors do not occur again and that either the users in question or another user can rectify them. Do not continue this same conduct as it is a cause for friction and does not aid anyone or even the site, as you are unwilling to make the necessary changes yourself, in becoming better [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 09:05, 16 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::Firstly: what added segments are you referring to?<br />
::::::Secondly: those templates are not "useless". Those synopsises are in a genuine need of improvement, no matter who made them. True, maybe I should notify the users who made said synopsises directly on their talk pages, but I don't see that I did anything wrong by adding those cleanup templates. Also, your words come off as unnecessarily rude and rather self-important. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 09:33, 16 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::PardescanSlowbro is right, just adding a cleanup template with a frustrated edit summary helps no one, especially in 1) recent contributions (as opposed to old/low traffic pages), 2) such large contributions, and 3) contributions by regular editors.<br />
:::::::You should try to always make your edit summaries useful if you're going to put anything there. If people are going to contribute regularly, it's much better to help them. More--and more experienced--people on Bulbapedia is a good thing. FYI I read at least the first paragraph of SM 84 and 85 and there's nothing that ABSOLUTELY needs improvement to my eye. (And FWIW, don't worry about telling ME what all the problems are here; I don't need it, they do.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 17:58, 16 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::SM085 I can somewhat agree with, but if you seriously aren't seeing anything wrong with SM084's synopsis... I'm actually inclined to just deleting said synopsis so that it can be rewritten from the ground up later. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 07:23, 17 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Paintings depicting Pokémon ==<br />
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As noted in the [[Bulbapedia:Manual of style/Anime|Manual of Style for anime articles]], statues, posters, and other man made object depicting Pokémon do not count as appearances. Paintings fall under man made objects.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 11:42, 2 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Stealing items from [[Iris]] ==<br />
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It's possible to steal the Life Orb from Iris' {{tt|Druddigon|All battles except the rematches in Challenge Mode}} or {{tt|Salamence|Rematch in Challenge Mode}}.<br />
[[User:TheICTLiker4|TheICTLiker4]] ([[User talk:TheICTLiker4|talk]]) 05:57, 5 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:It is. However, you can't just keep the item after the battle, so it doesn't count. Permanently stealing items from NPC Pokémon has been impossible since [[Generation IV]]. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:59, 5 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== mt moon items ==<br />
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i was just being more specific. dome and helix are the actual fossils and it seems better than just fossils, so why not? -[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 02:21, 15 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:You don't have to be ''too'' specific. They're listed right there on the same list. And about the Super Nerd, he didn't have a name in Generation I, so simply referring him to as "Super Nerd" in the item location description applies to all Generations where he's present. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 06:05, 15 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
::but dome and helix fossils link to regular fossils so fossils are just another click away. me personally i treat each item as a separate line thats why they all have links so i think being more specific is only beneficial. i agree with the super nerd tho. -[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 17:38, 15 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::The paired Fossil articles are planned to be split into their articles, plus I don't think repeated links would look good. Also, why aren't you using any capital letters? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 17:55, 15 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::even if they are being planned to split, we can still link to both when that time comes. and when u say repeating links i see team rocket grunt repeated a million times, which seems fine to me. too lazy to use shift. -[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 21:48, 15 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::Whatever. And I meant repeating links in the item list location descriptions. Also, being too lazy to use shift... Wow. Just, wow. It's honestly not that hard. Don't make yourself look ridiculously lazy, please. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:02, 16 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::so by whatever can i take it i can change the link to dome and helix fossils? :) yeah i also meant repeating links in the item list. i see rocket grunt links a million times there. -[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 21:59, 16 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::Go ahead. I'll make adjustments if I see it necessary, but I'll keep this conversation in mind while doing so. PS. Please start using big capital letters. It's honestly not that hard. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 07:23, 17 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== repeated links ==<br />
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u seem to have a problem with repeated links; however if i go to mt moon items section i can see a team rocket grunt link over and over. so what's the problem? -[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 19:27, 23 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:The problem is that you shouldn't ''purposefully'' add repeated links. And removing them is always a plus. Plus, repeated Trainer class links on Trainer lists are a bit different case than repeated links in the item descriptions. PS. Please start using big capital letters when necessary. You're making yourself look lazy by not doing it. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 20:53, 23 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== {{t|Fairy}} type vs. {{type|Fairy}} ==<br />
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What's the difference supposed to be between those two? When am I supposed to use {{t|Fairy}} type and when am I supposed to use {{type|Fairy}}? I find this very confusing. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 00:26, 24 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:The difference is that "X-type" is an adjective, while "X type" is a noun. A good mnemonic is that "X-type" is always followed by a word, like "Sylveon is a Fairy-type Pokémon", but "X type" is not, like "Sylveon is a Fairy type". I hope that clears it up for you. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 06:09, 24 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Yeah, I think I get it now. Thanks. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 07:27, 24 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
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==Redirect==<br />
Don't suppose you know how we can redirect links like Lusamine's Cleffa and Lusamine's Clefairy to [[Lusamine's Clefable]]?--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 19:43, 25 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
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:I think I just took care of that. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 21:11, 25 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
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::It's really simple, actually. Just make a page with the redirect title, write <nowiki>#REDIRECT</nowiki>, and add the link to the page you want the redirect to lead to after that. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 08:48, 26 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Regarding Playerking ==<br />
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Hey, I just want to point out that edit summaries like [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Air_Slash_(move)&diff=2841270&oldid=2841250 these] can be considered rude. It's fine to have disagreements with another user, but to tell them to be quiet isn't the way to solve those disagreements. Preferably, discuss it with Playerking on a suitable talk page.<br />
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Besides that, may I ask what your motivation is for adding several moves, such as Flash Cannon for Nebby and Air Slash? I haven't seen the episode yet, but you should know by now that Bulbapedia is built on proof, especially when it comes to moves being used. If they weren't called out on screen, please wait until they are in another episode or wait for the closed captioning. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 14:33, 30 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Okay, I admit that I may have been a bit rude, but those moves have exactly same animations as we've already seen in the anime. Air Slash is even used in this very same episode. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 15:01, 30 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Route 206 items ==<br />
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Why did you undo my edit? A bunch of other location pages, like Mt. Coronet, have multiple item tables. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 19:55, 31 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Yes, your edit was valid. There were just a couple of errors I noticed. 1) Leave a space in between the templates. 2) You missed a couple of items that should've been under the bridge. I also felt a bit grumpy yesterday, so I didn't feel like fixing your edit, so I instead went the lazy route and undid it entirely. Don't worry. I can put it the proper way to satisfy us both now. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 06:07, 1 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Okay thanks. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 16:27, 1 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Anime move mistakes ==<br />
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I am hereby informing you that, due to continued and widespread failure to follow the anime move policy, I will be instituting a '''3 strikes policy''' for anime moves. If a user adds a move that should not be added, they get a strike. If they make another mistake when they have 3 strikes, they will receive a block. This applies to you as soon as this is posted. (I.e., you are currently at 0 strikes.)<br />
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I will attempt to reiterate the anime move policy here so that it as simple as possible to follow:<br />
* If a move is explicitly commanded, identified by a character after the fact, or identified by closed captions, it can be added.<br />
* If the move is on [[User:Force Fire/List of moves with unique animations]], it can be added.<br />
In no other circumstances should a move be added. If you cannot testify that the above conditions were met ''when you added a move'', you will receive a strike. If you feel that a move ''should'' be acknowledged, please feel free to bring it up to me or any {{bp|staff}} member.<br />
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[[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:03, 5 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I'm going to give you 24 hours to explain how [[Special:Diff/2850812|this reversion]] meets the criteria outlined above. If you cannot, you will gain a strike. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:19, 20 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Okay, maybe it doesn't, but honestly, you just aren't using common sense! You are actively removing valid information by saying that since it wasn't stated out loud, it doesn't count. This wasn't an issue at one point in Bulbapedia's history, so why is it now? '''Why?!''' There was a time when we weren't restricted by rules as unnecessarily strict as these! You are actively making Bulbapedia '''lie''' to people by removing information that even '''they''' can see is true and valid! Honestly, if there is uncertainty about a move's identity, then '''discuss''' about it! Don't '''remove''' it!<br />
::Also, like I said in the edit summary, Nebby's attack '''was''' Sunsteel Strike, since it's required to use Searing Sunraze Smash, which it had used in the previous episode. "Glowing headbutt"? Are you serious?! The animation even looks identical to the one in the games in the later appearance! I don't want to consider you as a narrow-minded or stupid person, so please, don't act like one! I'm only trying to help Bulbapedia from hurting itself! --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 06:23, 20 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::PS. Sorry about my rudeness there. I'm just really passionate about this subject. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 08:39, 20 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::''"Why is it [an issue] now?"'' Because of things like finding out someone made a wrong guess with Air Slash or Psycho Cut or whatever.<br />
:::You say, ''"if there is uncertainty about a move's identity, then '''discuss''' about it!"'' A number of people one way or another missed the chance...[[Talk:Sunsteel Strike (move)#SM053]]. In fact, I ''was'' half prepared to remove it, but I decided instead to leave that question on the talk page. Then I forgot for a while and when I remembered again I was disappointed to notice it still hadn't gotten any response. Besides which, the same goes for you: '''discuss''' it. Stop reverting just because you're "sure". Stop reverting without any new insights. I don't like to pull the authority card, but stop reverting staff just because you don't like it. '''Discuss'''. This here is important: I DO NOT say that we are hostile to all of your wants. But I, for one, just want some ''order''. We never said that people can just assume&mdash;in one place or another, we have explicitly said that's what we don't want. But I've also asked you all to ask someone on staff, and I really can't think of one time where that was anyone's first reaction. Can you see how that just gets frustrating, when I keep trying to push that? That's why I went to zero tolerance with these strikes.<br />
:::DISCUSS. We/I am here to listen. You may be very reasonable, and we may find a way to accomodate you. But it doesn't happen if you won't talk first. (Editing first will get you strikes.)<br />
:::So... You're maintaining that Nebby used Sunsteel Strike. Just to be sure we can talk about the same thing reliably, please...well, please just respond to [[Talk:Sunsteel Strike (move)#SM053]] as requested there. We'll figure it out there.<br />
:::Since you have not been able to meet the criteria clearly outlined above...<br />
:::You are at 1 strike. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 10:40, 20 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::I left the response. Again, sorry for my rudeness. I can be rude when I get frustrated, even on authority figures, because in those cases, my mindset basically becomes: "Oh, so this authority figure thinks I can't say something against their opinion? Just watch me!" I know it's not right or polite in the slightest, so, again, I apologise. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 10:59, 20 September 2018 (UTC) PS. I had actually completely forgotten about this strike system until now. That's what tends to happen with me with things that I haven't been reminded of enough.<br />
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You're super bringing this on yourself... I'm thinking that if you haven't learned so far (and with so little time passed as well in this recent case), then I'll let you dig your own grave until you finally get deep enough to learn something from it.<br />
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I'm going to skip checking whether you can justify [[Special:Diff/2852505|this edit]] since it's about the same thing you got strike 1 for and nothing has changed since then.<br />
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You are at 2 strikes. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:21, 24 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:To be honest, I WAS going to reverse the edit on Sunsteel Strike's own page as well. But I knew you'd react like this, so I instead left a message on the talk page. But apparently, even the thing I did was too much for you. Bleh... --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 07:09, 24 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Yeah. I admit. I should've removed the edit I did, or better yet, not done it at all. I'm sorry. Is it possible for me to get that second strike removed? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 07:14, 24 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::I think not. FWIW 3 strikes is not "out", it's basically your last warning. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 10:22, 24 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== My error ==<br />
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Sorry about mistaking Magic Coat as Mirror Coat, I should have read a little more before posting that. :P ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|<span style="color:teal">Frozen</span>]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|<span style="color:green">Fennec</span>]]'' 13:39, 9 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:It's okay. The important thing is you recognized your mistake and fixed it. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 13:49, 9 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Skrub's Hitmontop ==<br />
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Since I was the one who found the information in question I was told I should be the one to explain it. I was prompted to look into this when someone asked me why Eagun's Pikachu could miss moves with 100 Accuracy when battling Skrub. Since I had the files and the know-how, I looked at each instance of Skrub's Hitmontop in Colosseum's common.rel. The important thing to note is that:<br />
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The Hitmontop for Eagun's Battle at 0xDD66F9, lists 0xED as holding 0xB3, which translates to a Bright Powder<br />
All other instances, such as in his first battle with you at 0xD34A9, list 0xED as holding 0xCF, which translates to a Black Belt.<br />
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I've not seen anyone else who's proven this, so you'll just have to take my word on it.<br />
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https://imgur.com/a/YTWog00<br />
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[[User:Unalive|Unalive]] ([[User talk:Unalive|talk]]) 18:55, 28 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Okay. Thank you. This is a good and reliable source. But next time, please provide your source right away to avoid cases like this. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 20:02, 28 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== floor order ==<br />
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floor order overrides game order? Since when? there are plenty of pages where game order is used over floor order. here's two: https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Rock_Tunnel#Items<br />
https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Seafoam_Islands#Items<br />
plus game order is easier to follow--[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 17:20, 30 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Those are pages where this issue just hasn't been fixed yet. Feel free to do it yourself, if you want to. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 18:29, 30 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::"those are the pages". every page is like this. why is it an issue? why feel the need to impose floor order? game order is so much better. if i am playing a certain game i can just scroll to it and not have to wade thru the items. where did u even get this idea from? --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 18:56, 30 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::It's not on '''every''' page. In fact, it's on a ton of pages already. Not in every page (and, as I said above, it'd be good for those pages where this is not the case to have it fixed), but generally speaking, it's preferred to list items in the order of accessibility, which, in the case of places like caves and buildings, means floors, even if it contradicts the game order. This order has received admin approval, as you can see [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Cave_of_Origin&diff=2220841&oldid=2220824 here]. It's an old edit, I know, but the point is still valid. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 19:39, 30 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::what u linked i have no problem with: oras and ruby/saph are basically the same game. look at seafoam islands. rby and frlg items are interwoven, which is fine. its that hgss should be listed after, because its layout is entirely different and should not be interwoven with rbyfrlg. and yes it is every page. since u claim its not every page, id like to see an example where its not. cave of origin is not an example. i am listing items in order of accessibility. frlg was released before hg/ss. so hgss items should come after. that simple. --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 19:50, 30 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::If the layout of the floors is different, then just keep the floors in a numerical order but put the newer games after the older ones. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:55, 1 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::..that's exactly what i'm doing. for every kanto page i did that since it overlaps with the johto pages. that includes celadon department. why keep that one different. hgss should come after. --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 11:42, 1 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::The point is, '''keep the floors in numerical order'''. You can put the items '''on a floor''' in the obtainable and/or game order, but keep the floor numbers in numerical order. I hope you understood. PS. You should '''seriously''' start using capital letters. It's not that hard or tiresome. Honestly. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 16:50, 1 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::why would i use floor order. u said urself that i should list the items in terms of accessibility. not every single place is linear in the sense that i can obtain every single item on a floor before moving on to the next one. sometimes i will for example be able to get an item on the second floor before an item on the first floor. floor order is meaningless. and as ive said, if we do floor order the games will all be mixed together, and why would you want that? --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 17:07, 1 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::...This isn't getting us anywhere. We need to ask an admin about this, although I still think you should try to understand my point. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 17:15, 1 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::::what is ur point exactly? the only thing ive gathered is "use floor order". not a single reason why, tho. --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 17:19, 1 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::::Why not? It only makes sense. People see the floor numbers before the games anyway, as they, more often than not, read from right to left, so it makes sense to list them in that order. Floor order is the first priority, game order is the second. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 18:33, 1 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::::::have you not read a single thing ive said. ive given you many reasons why floor order is bad. when people are looking at the items they are playing the game and trying to find them. if u put an item that can be found at the end first thats awful. u said it urself, you should list the itens in terms of accessibility. thats what im doing. now ur saying floor order trumps that? ur contradiciting urself. --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 18:44, 1 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::::::EternalDragonX, at what order the player finds the items is '''not''' something we can control. Especially for a place that has no linearity. Just because you find an item at a certain order, doesn't mean everyone else will. Most of your concerns (this ties back to the discussion you had on TiddlyWinks page) are just things we cannot control. How the player plays the game is not our issue. Therefore, at what order a player can obtain the item is not a priority since players finds items at a different order.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 08:24, 2 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::::::::so, what, we should list all the items in floor order? and mix all the games together? yea that seems like a great idea, considering no pages are like that. not to mention how confusing that is. --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 11:51, 2 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::::::::also, are you suggesting that the order we list items in is irrelevant? thats what it sounds like ur saying, since it isn't something we can "control". which also means that i might as well list an item at the very back of the dungeon before an item right by the entrance right? --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 21:33, 2 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
{{indent}}Floor order and ''then'' game order. The ordering that you're suggesting ("sometimes i will for example be able to get an item on the second floor before an item on the first floor") is what we can't control. So what if you found the item on the second floor first before an item on the first floor? That's not something we can control. Different players play the game differently. The order where you obtain them is not of a high priority for a place like Seafoam Islands or Rock Tunnel, since it's an open area. Routes are a different story, where the ordering should be the items from point A to point B.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 06:17, 3 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:so youre seriously telling me that you would mix the gsc items with the firered items in rock tunnel? why would you do that. it serves 0 benefit. and again, youre also saying that i should list an item that may be right by the exit of an area before one near the entrance of an area? that makes no sense. these are yes or no questions by the way. also, im not really "controlling" the players, im just giving them a suggested sequence of obtaining the items; one that wouldnt involve much if any backtracking at all. accessibility order is just so much more convenient: you can get every single item by going down the list, not having to skip several items and then go back up to try and find them again. there's no reason to use floor order --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 11:58, 3 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::It's not ''that'' confusing. It's not as jumbled up as you're making it out to be. The ordering is still going to be RBY>GSC>FRLG>HGSS, regardless of the template going by floor order. Common sense should still be considered, if you know you're not going to place an item from deep in a dungeon as the first item listed, then I don't know what the problem is. You're well aware of how nonsensical that is. To make it easier, if there are two items by the entrance (one on the left and one on the right), it doesn't matter which one gets listed first because different players are going to get different items first.<br />
::We are not a walkthrough, we are not going to give a suggested ordering, we're just listing the items. No need to be nit picky about the specifics. whether someone doesn't want to backtrack isn't really our problem. Again, players play the games differently. I'd be happy to back track, while other probably wouldn't. That's just how it goes. It's not a high priority.<br />
::If you want to continue this discussion, feels free to come to my talk page or any of the location talk pages. Finnish probably wouldn't want to keep getting notified about his talk page.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 05:18, 4 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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==Thank you!==<br />
Thanks for helping me out with the formatting on the [[Lush Jungle]] and [[Diglett's Tunnel]] pages! I'm new to editing Bulbapedia, so I'm still getting the hang of how the shortcuts work and what the standards are. If you have any tips/tricks, please let me know! '''[[User:Butterfreeism|<span style="color:#625B7C">–Bu<span style="color:#C05751">tt<span style="color:#5A93AE">erfr</span>ee</span>ism</span>''']] 18:10, 30 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Thanks for the compliment. And certainly! If you feel uncertain about something, feel free to ask me or some other more experienced user. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 18:29, 30 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== viridian gym ==<br />
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what the hell was the point of that edit. its clearly not about floor order anymore so why even bother. --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 12:00, 3 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:no ones going to answer this for you --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 12:58, 4 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::I know. I'm just getting tired of this. I saw it as other Gym items going after the reward TMs, but rethinking about it, I'm not so sure about that anymore. I'll see what I'll do with it. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 15:22, 4 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::i still dont have the faintest why you put that macho brace at the end. wasnt it you yourself who said items on the same floor can be in game order? --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 17:37, 4 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::They're technically in the obtaining order now. The Revive is first because you can obtain it before the Gym battle, the reward TMs are obtained right after the Gym battle (regardless of the game, which is why ''they'' are in game order), and the Macho Brace can be obtained after Giovanni has left after the Gym battle. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 19:04, 4 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::im all for accessibility order. im the one thats preaching it. but that is only limited to being in the same game; rby and frlg are basically the same game. if there was say a potion in the exact same spot as the revive in rby in frlg, yes i would list it right after the revive, before the tm. but hgss is an entirely different game. the layout of everything is different. if an item is in a different location, it should follow game order instead. aka kanto>johto. just because the items happen to be given by the gym leader after being defeated shouldnt mean they should be together. --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 19:31, 4 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::first of all that was my talk page not his. secondly i can see you have the time to go through other peoples talk pages but not your own... --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 14:42, 5 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::i like how u read that talk page but you completely ignore the fact that i specifically ask not to just go and undo my edit because there ARE other improvements i made but you went ahead and undid all of them anyway. so thanks. real classy move. --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 14:49, 5 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::yeah u know what your edit was just so appalling im just gonna undo it and separate the tables myself... something i was planning on doing later... --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 14:56, 5 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::In case you're referring to the Victory Road edit, I reversed it because it was the easy way to put it back the way it was. If you feel like you want to improve it somehow now, feel free to do so. Just don't combine the sections to one again. Also, I DID check my talk page. I'm simply just growing tired of arguing against you and your stubbornness. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 14:58, 5 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::jesus christ i LITERALLY said that i was just going to separate the tables right now. and ill do it by breaking it up from MY edit. not yours. still also love the fact that you havent even addressed the issue of viridian gym but you do all this... --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 15:09, 5 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::::I think you're taking this a biiit too seriously. I'm honestly not sure about Gyms, since it's not often we get items other than the reward TMs from them, but for now, I'm satisfied woth how it is, for the reasons I gave you earlier. PS. Could YOU also please respond to my question? Why do you refuse to use big capital letters? It's honestly not hard at all. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 17:35, 5 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::::no im not taking this too seriously. because u went and did your victory road edit i had to undo it so that i could make my edit, which i said i would literally on my talk page, which i know you read. then you go ahead and undo my undo literally WHILE i was making my edit like i said above and i had to go and undo that AGAIN. anymore and they'd accuse me of edit warring.<br />
::::::::::::not sure eh? well guess what. i am. if you dont give me a good reason and address what i said above im undoing your edit on viridian gym. <br />
:::::::::::: ... use ... capital letters? ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4p-SUvicno --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 20:34, 5 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::::::yooooooo i know you read my last message. the fact that you made an edit means youve been on and i seriously doubt you didnt read it. --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 16:11, 6 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::::::Again, I didn't reply because I'm getting tired of this. Also, you didn't give any good reasoning for why you don't use big capital letters. Or reasoning at all, in fact. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 16:43, 6 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::::::::all right im undoing your edit. --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 17:04, 6 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== celadon department store ==<br />
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im undoing your edit. cuz we talked about how the items should follow game order regardless of floor order. :) --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 01:23, 9 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:No. You should follow the floor order. Why are you so obsessed about this? It's not right! --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 04:12, 9 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::wot m8. we talked about it in the first two paragraphs: https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:Force_Fire#floor_order_cont<br />
::game order will always be the same. --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 15:33, 9 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::...I honestly can't understand your mindset. You're way too obsessed about this. Also, '''please''', write with big capital letters like a mature person would. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 15:47, 9 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::You've clearly misinterpreted what I said EternalDragon. What I meant was that the order of the games is always going to be the same order even if the list is following floor order. So for example:<br />
:::::Floor 1:<br />
::::::RBY/FRLG<br />
::::::GSC/HGSS<br />
::::::FRLG<br />
::::::HGSS<br />
:::::Floor 2:<br />
::::::RBY/FRLG<br />
::::::GSC/HGSS<br />
::::::FRLG<br />
::::::HGSS<br />
:::::Floor 3:<br />
::::::RBY/FRLG<br />
::::::GSC/HGSS<br />
::::::FRLG<br />
::::::HGSS<br />
::::The game order is not going to get jumbled up if you follow by floor order.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 16:27, 9 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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==SM084==<br />
Regarding [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=SM084&diff=next&oldid=2859383 my edit here], I had looked beforehand if events such as this one had been noted on other episode pages, but I couldn't find any so I removed it. I figured it'd be weird to leave this when it wasn't done for other Pokémon. But you say it has been done for other Pokémon, so I was wondering what pages you were talking about. Could you maybe show an example? [[User:Satsjoe|Satsjoe]] ([[User talk:Satsjoe|talk]]) 10:46, 12 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:[[EP075]], [[EP077]], and [[EP111]]. I also guess it could be applied to one or two of Ash's Unova Pokémon that he didn't add to his party right away too, like {{AP|Palpitoad}}. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 10:50, 12 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Thanks. Guess I didn't search well enough, my bad. [[User:Satsjoe|Satsjoe]] ([[User talk:Satsjoe|talk]]) 10:58, 12 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::It's okay. Errare humanum est. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 12:55, 12 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== why not ==<br />
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all i did was reorder the items and add links. of course reordering them isnt absolutely necessary, but why not? now theres a semblance of how you obtain the items. --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 05:48, 15 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Links I can understand, but the reordering? No. These lists are '''supposed''' to be in alphabetical order, '''not''' in obtainable order. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 06:16, 15 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== When Nebby learned Sunsteel Strike ==<br />
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Can you explain why you think [[Nebby]] learned {{m|Sunsteel Strike}} when it evolved?<br />
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I'm also curious about what you meant when you said you received approval for it.<br />
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(FYI I'm not inclined to worry about strikes in this case/at this point because it's a weird situation. This is worth sorting out on its own terms for now.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 23:08, 18 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:For the exact same reason I said in the edit summary and what we discussed on your talk page just a little while ago: the anime [[SM091#Trivia|recently confirmed]] that exclusive Z-Moves need a certain move to act as their basis, just like in the games. Since Nebby used Searing Sunraze Smash in the episode where it evolved into Solgaleo, it must have also known Sunsteel Strike at the time. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 06:37, 19 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== External link on Pokemon breeding ==<br />
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Hey, I can see you reverted my change on [[Pokémon breeding]]. Would it be OK to add the link as a referrence? I'd add new section as it doesn't exists for that article. --[[User:Robdy|Robdy]] ([[User talk:Robdy|talk]]) 13:21, 19 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Ask an admin. I'd say no, but ask one of them to be sure. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 14:26, 19 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Spiritomb edits ==<br />
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Is there any specific reason why you removed my edits in the Spiritomb page? {{unsigned|ABlinkAway4}}<br />
:First off: new comments go to the bottom of the talk page. You can add a new section by clicking the "+" next to the "Edit" button.<br />
:Second: don't forget to sign your comments. The sign button is right above the edit window, the second to last button.<br />
:Third: while the trivia '''was''' valid, it was poorly written and placed. Sorry. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 10:31, 24 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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==Archive images==<br />
https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Pok%C3%A9_Problem&diff=prev&oldid=2870434<br />
I hid them for the simple reason that I didn't know they were uploaded yet and they always get hidden there without any problem. They were also hidden because they don't get uploaded that quickly. I don't hide things for no reasons, so please don't get annoyed without knowing the reason. [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]])!<br />
:I managed to find a HD version of the episode soon after it had aired. That's where I got those pictures. Sorry if you felt like I offended you. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 15:41, 29 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Pokémon League (Alola)/Title Defense page ==<br />
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I confirmed that Sophocles's Magnezone is Analytic in USUM. See also [https://twitter.com/zakocky/status/1056857442246569984 my tweet]. Deutsch and Chinese version say too so.--[[User:Zaggyo|Zaggyo]] ([[User talk:Zaggyo|talk]]) 06:56, 30 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Okay. Sorry. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 07:01, 30 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Beta Page Revision ==<br />
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Just curious why my two edits were undone; I thought they were helpful. The space on the XD page in case people though the entire thing was one item and the notes on the Colosseum page to note that there were only a handful of noted Pokémon among the lists are never available in the final game. ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|<span style="color:teal">Frozen</span>]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|<span style="color:green">Fennec</span>]]'' 19:37, 30 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Pardon me. I didn't think that the space was necessary and the Colosseum edit could've been done a bit better. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 20:12, 30 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Ah, let me know how it could be done better so I can improve on it then; thank you. :) ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|<span style="color:teal">Frozen</span>]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|<span style="color:green">Fennec</span>]]'' 20:20, 30 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== wat ==<br />
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why are you removing my links --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 11:03, 31 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:They were repeat links. Also, don't forget to use the {{template|pkmn}} and {{template|pkmn2}} templates to make links simpler to add. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 13:05, 31 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::gee, maybe it wouldve been nice to say that in the change instead of having me come and ask. hmmmmmmmmmmmmm. and those links were the first in those sections; they were repeated, but in an above section. it should be fine to repeat them --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 13:21, 31 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::1) You're being unnecessarily rude. 2) Okay, valid point, but I'm still not sure. 3) I'm really not in the mood of arguing with you again. Please ask someone higher up, like Force Fire or Chosen. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 13:24, 31 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Facade ==<br />
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I checked the RAWs, and Viz's translation is correct. It was Facade. I want to move the file, but which is the Electrike's nickname in the Viz version? The image currently says "Rikey", but it says "Rikelec" on the template itself. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 17:47, 1 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:It's the latter. I added it to the template only a few hours ago. And while you're at it, could you also move the other move pictures from the same page? I also changed their names in the templates to match the ones in the Viz translation. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 18:18, 1 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Recent edit ==<br />
You've been told by an admin that you shouldn't undo an edit just because YOU think it includes bad grammar. https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Spiritomb_(Pok%C3%A9mon)&diff=prev&oldid=2868512 That's not constructive. [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]]) 15:33, 13 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Sorry. It's just a fact that said edit legitimately contained grammatical errors. I also personally saw that the sentence structure could've been better. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 16:46, 13 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Detective Pikachu Cameos ==<br />
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Why did you remove the cameo Pokemon from the Detective Pikachu film page? They do appear in the film and I did specifically list them as being a cameo. So, why did you remove them? Thanks. '''Ice''' [[User talk:The IceCream|Cream]] 16:28, 14 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Because they weren't even actually featured. For example, Articuno and Steelix were only mentioned on a poster. That does not count as an appearance. Not even as a cameo. And same goes for other Pokémon pictures as well. Bulbapedia only counts direct appearances. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 19:21, 14 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Well, they make an appearance somewhere in the trailer even if it's so small. Shouldn't that count for something? '''Ice''' [[User talk:The IceCream|Cream]] 21:57, 14 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::I just told you: indirect appearances don't count. Especially ones that are only mentioned. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 08:55, 15 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::How does appearing on a poster not count as a cameo? I am just curious to why you think this. '''Ice''' [[User talk:The IceCream|Cream]] 15:51, 15 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::Even if it DOES count as a cameo, it still doesn't count as a proper appearance. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 16:33, 15 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::That's why I listed it as a cameo and not a proper appearance. '''Ice''' [[User talk:The IceCream|Cream]] 19:04, 15 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::I said: Bulbapedia doesn't count those. Period. As in, they do not belong to the characters section. At all. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 19:58, 15 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== [[Trophy Garden]] edit war ==<br />
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Hi there. You removed my edits, despite me requesting a discussion before doing so, and me having started a talk page discussion about this topic. I am happy to talk about this if you will stop reverting without discussion, but due to the edit warring, I will also be calling in an administrator. --[[User:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] [[User talk:Poppy Appletree|:3]] 13:03, 20 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Your links and references needed fixing, which I've done now. There's no need for an admin. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 13:09, 20 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:: Thanks for the fixes! I haven't been an active wiki contributor in several years now, and I'm a bit rusty. I would have appreciated if you'd have just talked to me, though I circled [[user:Blazingfist]] in for oversight. --[[User:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] [[User talk:Poppy Appletree|:3]] 13:13, 20 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::It seems that {{user|Force Fire}} agrees with me about the notability of this rumor. Sorry. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 13:41, 20 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::: Would you mind having a look at the scope of materials discussing the Secret Garden rumour and re-evaluating? --[[user:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] 11:20, 21 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::Sorry, but I agree with Force Fire. It's not as notable as the Mew truck. You shouldn't trust sites that rely on speculation instead of any creditable sources. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 11:32, 21 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::: What exactly is your criteria here for speculation and credible sources? Many of those articles are published on highly notable sites like Destructoid, and they themselves compare the notability of the Secret Garden rumour to that of the truck. Take for example the start of the Syfy article:<br />
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::::::: Whether it's Pikablu, the Mew under the truck, the PokeGods, Bill's secret garden, or Pokémon Purple, the game where you could play as Team Rocket, you've probably heard a Pokémon rumor or two if you've spent any amount of time with the franchise.<br />
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:::::: The Secret Garden is one of the most notable rumours from Gen I, and its longevity and spread demonstrate that. --[[user:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] 11:46, 21 November 2018 (UTC)</div>
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https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Force_Fire/Archive_9&diff=2884130
User talk:Force Fire/Archive 9
2018-11-21T11:39:33Z
<p>Poppy Appletree: /* Sea Cottage and Trophy Garden */</p>
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<div>{{User:Force Fire/Archive}}<br />
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== Subpages of a userpage ==<br />
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Hello, I noticed you warning people about their userpages, so I thought you'd be the right person to ask this. The thing is, I would like to create a subpage listing my in-game teams using the standard team template, since I want there to be more things related to Pokémon and me on my page. I wanted to ask whether or not it is allowed at all and what I should keep in mind besides not editing excessively. Thank you! [[User:Kikugi|Kikugi]] ([[User talk:Kikugi|talk]]) 10:16, 9 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Making subpages for that is fine, the rules for subpages is the same as a normal userpage. An edit to your subpage also counts to the "three userspace edits per day" rule.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 10:28, 9 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Another offensive username ==<br />
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Puta is a really rude word in Spanish(I think the account maker failed to use proper alts, but their intent is clear...is this worth your time for an unacceptable username?--[[User:BlisseyandtheAquaJets|BlisseyandtheAquaJets]] ([[User talk:BlisseyandtheAquaJets|talk]]) 17:16, 9 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== "Not everything is a pun" ==<br />
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...I never said everything is, but SM is known for them and "ワル" is not a Japanese word, but "warui" (悪い) is! And since it's spelled as "ワル" and "Warubiaru" (ワルビアル) is in the episode it makes sense it's a pun. I have no idea what your problem is and I don't care, but I've already explained why it's a pun. "ワル" isn't used as "bad" in katakana, but words are used in different characters when they're a joke. Like the episode with Dhelmise with "Ikari" (anger) being used as "いかり" as "anchor" but the same spelling "Ikari" also can be used to mean "怒り" (anger). [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]]) 19:31, 12 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Please respond and change it back because it's not spelled the right way, meaning it is a pun. I don't care what your problem is, but not correctly addressing a pun in a title that clearly has one just makes Bulbapedia look stupid. I've been obvious why it's a pun. Why can episode titles like SM071, SM065, and SM040 be acknowledged but not this? [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]]) 14:54, 13 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Just because "waru" is written in katakana, doesn't mean it no longer means "悪" or has a different meaning. "ワル" is still "悪", it's not some nonsensical word. And yes, "悪" can be used by itself. As for the title, "waru" could also be referring to Nanu, considering his attire and the fact the title includes "oyaji" (since it's "...waru oyaji wa...").<br />
::As for the other episodes, they're fine. Ikari can mean either Anchor and Anger, like you said, so that's a pun. "Mairimasu" ''is'' pure nonsense and could only be a pun. "Pan-paka-pan" is a trumpet fanfare with just happens to include the word "pan", and the episode was about bread.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 15:20, 13 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::The idea that not translating a pun is bad needs to be addressed.<br />
:::Translating puns is HARD.<br />
:::It is ''not'' always worth wracking your brain over or compensating for otherwise. And it's not even necessarily worth forcing something. Not translating a pun does not make Bulbapedia look stupid... [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 15:37, 13 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Surge/Terrain confusion ==<br />
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There's confusion going on in the anime whether the [[Tapu]] are activating their signature abilities or using the Terrain moves. This issue has been resolved with {{DL|Recurring wild Pokémon in the anime|Tapu Koko}}, but people are still mixing up {{DL|Recurring wild Pokémon in the anime|Tapu Lele}} and {{DL|Recurring wild Pokémon in the anime|Tapu Bulu}}'s Abilities with their Terrain moves. When Tapu Lele and Tapu Bulu activated their Abilities {{a|Psychic Surge}} and {{a|Grassy Surge}} respectively, users are assuming that they are using the attacks {{m|Psychic Terrain}} and {{m|Grassy Terrain}} instead. That is not the case. In ''[[SM037|Rising from the Ruins!]]'' and [[SM075]], when Tapu Lele and Tapu Bulu enter battle with Rockruff and {{AP|Lycanroc}} respectively, their Surge Abilities go off at the start of their battles. This happened with Tapu Koko as well when it battled {{AP|Pikachu}} in ''[[SM002|The Guardian's Challenge!]]'' and ''[[SM019|A Guardian Rematch!]]''. The Terrain moves can go off during any point of the battle, however the Surge Abilities can only activate when the Pokémon enter the field. Another point to show that it's their abilities activating in those episodes and not their attacks is in ''[[SM052|Revealing the Stuff of Legend!]]'' where all four Tapu used the four Terrain moves to show {{Ash}} and {{ashfr|the gang}} [[Nebby#In_the_anime|Nebby]]'s backstory. Even the anime makes mistakes as shown in SM075 where [[Acerola]] and {{Rotom}} misidentify Tapu Bulu's Grassy Surge as Grassy Terrain. --[[User:PKMNAdventurer|PKMNAdventurer]] ([[User talk:PKMNAdventurer|talk]]) 21:32, 18 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I've removed them and added a hidden notice. Abilities and moves need to be explicitly said, especially those that would potentially have the same exact animation.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 03:11, 19 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Ok, looks like Psychic Terrain was confirmed via dub captions (which is fine, until/unless the Japanese version says that it's something else later on). Grassy Terrain was said, which you've noted. Is it an error? We don't know. But for now, it is not an error unless they contradict themselves and call it Grassy Surge later on. At the end of the day, the is no confusion. Assuming moves is something you shouldn't be doing. If it is said or revealed in close caption, then that's final.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 12:08, 19 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Ok. I wanted to make sure if the move used was either the Terrain Move or the Surge Ability. Thank you for clearing it up. --[[User:PKMNAdventurer|PKMNAdventurer]] ([[User talk:PKMNAdventurer|talk]]) 20:48, 19 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Requests ==<br />
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If you would be so kind, could you please hear me out and consider doing a couple things I can't do (at least without permission, in some cases):<br />
* Template {{template|Trainerentry}} has several handy redirects for Trainer classes that have changed their names over the years, such as "Cooltrainer" to "Ace Trainer" and "Rocket" to "Team Rocket Grunt". However, there are several Trainer class name changes that have either been missed or happened after the template was last edited, like "Rocket Grunt"{{tt|*|From Generation II}} to "Team Rocket Grunt", "Pokéfan" to "Poké Fan", "Swimmer ♂/♀" to "Swimmer", and "Clerk ♂/♀" to "Office Worker". There may be others than these, but anyway, my point is, could you please add the missing redirects to the template in the same way as the already existing redirects?<br />
* Back in January, I suggested that the [[Pokémon League (Alola)/Title Defense]] page should be split into separate SM and USUM Title Defense pages. I've already got the USUM section ready right [[User:FinnishPokéFan92/Pokémon League (Alola)/Title Defense/Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon|here]] under my own userspace in case the idea gets approved. Do you think the page should be split?<br />
* Ummm... I recall having a third request, but it doesn't come to my mind right now. I'll come back if I can remember it.<br />
:--[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 12:59, 20 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
::I've added the examples you've provided. If there are any more, do let me know.<br />
::I've forwarded the article with the other staff members.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 08:16, 21 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Thank you for hearing me out. And indeed, I've discovered a few more redirect links that should be fixed: "Officer" and "Policeman" to "Police Officer", "Interviewer" to "Interviewers", "Socialite" to "Madame", and "School Kid" to "Schoolkid". Also, a couple of other things related to this subject:<br />
::::In Generation II, the "Swimmer" class was classified as "Swimmer♂/♀", as in without a space, while in Generation VI, it's "Swimmer ♂/♀", as in ''with'' a space. The latter redirect is yet to be fixed.<br />
::::In Generation II, the Trainer class that would later be known as "Schoolkid" was called "Schoolboy", hence why "Schoolboy" redirects to "Schoolkid" (or rather "School Kid", a redirect link). And then, in Generation VI, we were introduced to the separate "Schoolboy" Trainer class. As such, the Schoolboy links from Generation VI now lead to an incorrect article (similar to the "Medium" link from [[Saffron Gym]]'s page, actually, due to the Channeler class's renaming in Stadium, but that's a much more minor subject). I know this may be an impossible or at least a difficult problem to solve properly, but I decided to bring it up nevertheless, just in case.<br />
:::The request I forgot about yesterday is actually a pretty old one: back in 2013, I made a suggestion to change the {{template|Gym Leaders of Unova}} to better separate the BW and B2W2 Gym Leaders from each other, but my edit (which you can see [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Template:Gym_Leaders_of_Unova&oldid=1865505 here]) was undone, because I hadn't talked about it beforehand. Since then, I've forgotten, remembered, and re-forgotten this multiple times, but now I've finally managed to make myself bring this long-forgotten topic up again. Could the template be edited in this or at least in a similar kind of way, or do you feel it's good enough as it is?<br />
:::Also, I've also come up with a couple new things I'd want to propose since yesterday: could "Tide Song Hotel" and "Kantonian Gym" receive their own articles? I've already asked people's opinions about these ideas on [[Heahea City]] and [[Malie City]]'s talk pages, and at least the Tide Song Hotel split seems to have gotten some support already. Could you take these splits into consideration as well? Thank you.<br />
:::--[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 10:04, 21 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::Oh, and while I'm at it, I also found one Orre Trainer class redirect to fix: "Fun Old Lady" to "Matron". --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 12:35, 21 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::Ah, didn't see the subtle difference with the Swimmer trainer class. I've added the other TCs.<br />
:::::I think the Unova Gym Leader Template is fine the way it is. Repeating the same Gym Leaders is pretty unnecessary, while I do get why, the template is about who are the Gym Leaders, separating by game isn't necessary. Plus, the three newer Gym Leaders being at the bottom of the first eight already implies that they were added later on.<br />
:::::I've forwarded those suggestions to the other admins as well.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 05:11, 24 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::I actually just saw you making that edit. Thanks a lot.<br />
::::::I understand. It's fine. I won't raise that topic again.<br />
::::::Thanks once again. I'll be waiting for the results. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:36, 24 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::Sorry to bother you again, but I've found a couple more links to fix, mainly from the Orre games:<br />
::::::::Let's get the simpler ones out of the way first: "Researcher" and "Cipher R&D" to "Scientist".<br />
::::::::Now, for something I'm not so sure of: the Orre-exclusive classes "Rogue" "Kaminko Aide", and "Robo Groudon" are Trainer classes used by only one person each, and they also only appear as redirect links on one page each. Hence why I'm not sure if these redirects should be removed or not. What do you think?<br />
::::::::And finally, something a bit different, but still involving the same template. A big number of Fighting-type Trainers in FireRed and LeafGreen have their Pokémon holding Black Belts. However, the template links the "Black Belt" held item to "Type-enhancing item#Black Belt". This was understandable before, but now "Black Belt (item)" has its own article. Could you change the link to go to the item's own page now?<br />
:::::::Thank you. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 06:59, 25 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::Done. As for the three single trainer trainer classes, I think they're fine, due to the way the template works (the second parameter is under a TC template, so their has to be a [name] (Trainer class) link.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 03:29, 26 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::Thank you once again. However, when I looked at your edits, I also happened to notice that, similar to the Black Belt link you fixed, the held item link for "Metronome" leads to "In-battle effect item#Metronome". I can understand that you didn't notice that during your edit, so I'm not blaming you of anything, but could you be so kind and fix that one, too? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:25, 26 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::Whoopsie! Every time I think I'm done with this issue, I notice something new. The redirect link of "Poké'''F'''an" to "Poké Fan" has been fixed, but it's formatted as "Poké'''f'''an" on every pre-Generation VI page (as well as on the "Poké Fan (Trainer class)" article), and ''that'' redirect link still remains to be fixed. Could you do this one more thing? I'm sorry if you feel bothered by this. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 12:40, 27 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::::(deep sigh) One. More. Once again I've noticed something. In Generation II, some Poké Fans had their Pokémon holding Berries, as in "Berry (item)", but link just goes to "Berry". Could that be fixed? PS. I also have other stuff to talk about with you, but I'll probably start a new section for that purpose later. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 08:04, 2 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Force preview question ==<br />
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I've heard about the force preview group, where you have to preview your edits before publishing them. And I thought it might help me slow down and evaluate if my edits are actually helpful, since I have a tendency to act impulsively. Is it possible to ask to be put in that group? I was just curious. [[User:Veralann|<span style="color:#ffa900;">'''Incentive'''</span><span style="color:#00c7ff">''' (a.k.a. Veralann)'''</span>]] 02:49, 21 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== PokeShay ==<br />
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I think it was a little harsh to block him for that. You could've just asked about it on his talk page. --[[User:Raltseye|<span style="color:#FF6464">R</span><span style="color:#11BB11">alts</span><span style="color:#6464FF">eye</span>]] [[User talk:Raltseye|prata med mej]] 16:03, 24 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== "Pokémon seen" lists for movie locations ==<br />
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I wasn't too sure who to ask about this, though I have noticed that some movie-based locations have got the "Pokémon seen" lists and others don't. What is the requirement for these types of pages?. E.g. The Lake of Life has an incomplete list whilst Forina and the Tree of Beginning do not have any list, instead the Pokémon are just listed in the description section. <br />
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Also who is the authority on uploading images to the archives? I have a few images in mind that are needed to complete other pages like the Pokémon mate page. <br />
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Thanks. [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 09:55, 28 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Locations where Pokémon actually live there have the Pokémon list. Though I'm not too sure if it's needed, as most are just wild Pokémon. Maybe if they play a large role in the area, such as the titans in Tree of Beginning, then they can be listed. Otherwise, it's unnecessary. As for the archives, you have to create an account at the archives and wait to be autoconfirmed there (the requirements are the same as it is on the wiki).--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 02:43, 29 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
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::Thank you for the information. [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 09:36, 29 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Unaccpetable username ==<br />
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[[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Special:Contributions/Son_of_a_gun]] {{unsigned|RubyLeafGreenCrystal}}<br />
:No it's not.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 02:43, 29 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Bulbapedia lagging ==<br />
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Not really sure if this is the appropriate place to ask, but is the site undergoing updates or something? Loading for this site is lagging for me. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 20:45, 29 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
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:Never mind. The issue seems to have resolved itself. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 21:48, 29 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Could I have my userspace privileges back? ==<br />
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It's been like 6 years and I mostly just wanna delete it lmao --[[User:Pokelova|Pokelova]] ([[User talk:Pokelova|talk]]) 12:17, 31 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Done.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 14:18, 31 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Edgreen293 ==<br />
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{{user|Edgreen293}} is at it again ([https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Chopper&diff=prev&oldid=2803690] [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Janet&diff=prev&oldid=2803692] [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Damian&diff=prev&oldid=2803693]). [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 22:29, 5 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
: I might also add {{user|Tygamer64}} since both GrammarFreak01 and I were discussing him on his talk page. Since he has made rather pointless edits and we were told to report these cases. '''Ice''' [[User talk:The IceCream|Cream]] 15:25, 6 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== RE: Episode links ==<br />
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The links I added are from a licensed Pokémon copyright holder, so there is no copyright issue here. They are all legal.--[[User:Magicknight94|Magicknight94]] ([[User talk:Magicknight94|talk]]) 09:31, 6 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Did you read my reply?--[[User:Magicknight94|Magicknight94]] ([[User talk:Magicknight94|talk]]) 14:52, 7 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
::You still can't link to full episodes or episode clips, regardless of whether it comes from an official source or not.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 04:35, 8 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Why not? If copyright is not the issue here, what is the problem? Can you explain? --[[User:Magicknight94|Magicknight94]] ([[User talk:Magicknight94|talk]]) 07:33, 8 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Hello?--[[User:Magicknight94|Magicknight94]] ([[User talk:Magicknight94|talk]]) 05:22, 11 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::Be patient. Force Fire is probably busy. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 05:31, 11 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::The issue '''is''' copyright. We choose not to link to episodes available on streaming sites, regardless of it being from an official source or not, just to be on the safe side. Also, the link you provided was for the Vietnamese dub, which I don't think anyone visiting an ''English'' wiki would be interested in.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 05:14, 12 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Pokemon 4ever working title? ==<br />
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https://www.serebii.net/archive/September-2000.shtml Scrolling down that page a bit shows a 7-frame promo for a project simply called ''Pokémon 2001'' and one of the frames shows a Celebi, no plans to currently add anything about it to the Pokémon 4ever page but I was wondering what your thoughts were on this. ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|<span style="color:teal">Frozen</span>]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|<span style="color:green">Fennec</span>]]'' 14:05, 13 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Do you have another source for that other than Serebii? Serebii is not a credible source, as it's a fansite.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 13:10, 14 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Nope, just randomly came across that and given how old the page was, got a little curious. Tried to reverse image search the frames but could not find anything at all. ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|<span style="color:teal">Frozen</span>]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|<span style="color:green">Fennec</span>]]'' 13:12, 14 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Not sure if I can post this video, but here's video proof. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Od-eFQhVRI [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]]) 13:56, 14 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::Oh wow, did not know there was still video footage, I just thought it was those seven screenshots. Wonder if this would be worth adding to the Pokémon 4ever section as trivia. ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|<span style="color:teal">Frozen</span>]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|<span style="color:green">Fennec</span>]]'' 14:01, 14 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== PardescanSlowbro ==<br />
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I'm having a really big problem with {{user|PardescanSlowbro}} right now. I once sent him [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2768197&oldid=2766807 this message] in response to his editing style, and [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2768426&oldid=2768197 he took it pretty personally] (even though I was also [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AGrammarFreak01&type=revision&diff=2768465&oldid=2766949 in the wrong here]). Since then, the user has made edits to a variety of articles, and I've commonly had to edit them to rectify errors that he made. For example, [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=EP045&type=revision&diff=2809520&oldid=2806418 he very recently edited] the plot summary of [[EP045]] and [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=EP045&diff=next&oldid=2809520 this] was what I did to improve it (note that I also did some unrelated changes at the same time).<br />
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[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2801230&oldid=2801220 I once tried] to inform him of some of the kinds of errors he kept making in his edits, like [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AGrammarFreak01&type=revision&diff=2768465&oldid=2766949 you suggested], but [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2801256&oldid=2801230 this] was his response. He also said [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2801220&oldid=2801168 this beforehand]. [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2801258&oldid=2801256 I tried] to be rational and explain myself this time, but the conversation did not move forward anymore, so I gave up trying to reason with him and just resorted to editing at his heels whenever I saw an error. He eventually [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2809534&oldid=2809278 got agitated] by this. [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2809538&oldid=2809534 I tried] asking for specifics about his complaints of me, but [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2809541&oldid=2809538 he claimed I already knew what I was doing] (I legitimately do not). After I [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2809547&oldid=2809541 responded a couple of times], he went on [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2809557&oldid=2809547 a tirade] against me.<br />
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If any, if not all of his grievances towards me are legitimate, then I do apologize immensely. But I sincerely believe I've been trying to be helpful and he just rebuffs it. Either way, could you please step in? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 07:39, 17 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
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:He also had [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2809565&oldid=2809561 this] to say recently. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 07:44, 17 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
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::{{user|Tiddlywinks}} has [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:PardescanSlowbro&diff=0&oldid=2809568 pitched in]. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 19:25, 17 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Harassment Procedure ==<br />
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Dear ForceFire,<br />
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I have felt personally vindicated and harassed by the user GrammarFreak01 on a continuous basis. I have pleaded to be left alone by the user and made them clearly aware of my feelings on their conduct towards myself. I was never under the assumption that any of my edits were to be untouched, though found the user in question deliberately followed and made, in some cases minor and pointless changes to over 40 pages (Episode 1 to 46 and some associated anime pages) directly after I did over recent days. The pages in question, at least the plot sections required some detail corrections but until my additions had not been looked at for several years. I had earlier requested significant action be taken against the user on Tiddlywinks page after an earlier spate of unexplained deletions to additions which were quickly reinstated by Tiddlywinks. Nothing came of this request on Tiddlywinks page, and the behaviour has persisted and worsened into vitriol that centres on GrammarFreak01's belief I referred to them as racist, though nothing of the sorts has occurred. I can no longer handle the barrage of blatancy and continuous harassment written on my discussion page by GrammarFreak01, and wish for those actions to end. At all times I have maintained my distance, and have thanked the user for their efforts when they have worked in collaboration with myself. Though their commentary and vicious attacks on my supposed sensitivities and linguistics must end. I have let things slide, despite my discontent, as to avoid further escalation. The user has been told to maintain their distance and respect previously written advices to improve their conduct, though such warnings remain unheeded and their pattern of behaviour towards me continues to intensify. I am completely naïve when it comes to Bulbapedia's bullying procedures, though require strong action be taken to ensure the harassment, belittlement and bullying that I have been exposed to by user GrammarFreak01 does not ever repeat.<br />
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I look forward to your reply, though will maintain my reserve and distance nonetheless,<br />
[[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 12:04, 17 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
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: Seeing as I have been the only one to receive any commentary it is best I be moved on. My claims have been outright ignored and also denied, despite the sheer amount of evidence to say otherwise. At the very least the user in question should have been told to remain at a distance, though has immediately gone on the attack again; though of course I am making everything up and overreacting as you pointed out. As such, please delete my account, this forum is no longer suitable to myself, my temperament or my skills. Thanks.[[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 13:44, 18 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Move trivia ==<br />
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How do I know if trivia about moves is notable? The stuff I add sometimes gets undone even if it's unique to that move. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 17:54, 18 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Depends on what the trivia is.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 05:34, 19 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
::I guess a recent example would be my attempt to add a trivium to thunder wave. It said that thunder wave is currently the only status move whose effectiveness depends on the type chart, so that ground Pokemon were immune because it was electric type and not because it was programmed separately. I thought it was unique and notable, but it was taken down. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 17:57, 19 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Erica124 yet again ==<br />
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{{user|Erica124}} has once again shown [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Walking_Pok%C3%A9mon&type=revision&diff=2810509&oldid=2808316 her inability] to use her force preview, despite [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AErica124&type=revision&diff=2808504&oldid=2771952 my earlier warning]. Maybe it's time to let her go? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 04:24, 19 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Perma-blocking her is for the staff to decide, not you. You also need to calm down when approaching "problem" users, yes their continuous wrongdoings can be frustrating, by try to keep a level head when dealing with them. As for blocking, it's not excessive. Can't do much if it's a once in a while thing.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 05:34, 19 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Oh, I thought you were part of staff? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 06:56, 19 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Also, just so you know, it's not a once-in-a-while thing. Erica124 made [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Walking_Pok%C3%A9mon&type=revision&diff=2756991&oldid=2756735 the same exact error] on the same article before, and [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AErica124&type=revision&diff=2808504&oldid=2771952 I did warn her about it once]. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 06:59, 19 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::I am. A perma block is something that needs to be discussed with other staff members first, not just immediately executed, unless the user we're dealing with is a vandal. <br />
::::Yes, but her recent spate of unpreviewed edits aren't happening as frequently as it did back in March. She's not editing daily. She only didn't use the preview button on one article today. The last one before today was June 15th, four days ago. And the one before that was last month. Compare it to March where it was almost daily. --[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 07:25, 19 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::Oh, okay. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 07:51, 19 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Reply ==<br />
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Anything to say on my page? [[User:RubyLeafGreenCrystal|RubyLeafGreenCrystal]] ([[User talk:RubyLeafGreenCrystal|talk]]) 06:39, 26 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Quick query==<br />
This is present in the trivia section on the Slowbro page:<br />
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*Slowbro's Pokédex entries state that if the Shellder is removed, it will revert to its Slowpoke form. <br />
**This is the only mentioning of a Pokémon possibly devolving anywhere in the Pokémon games, aside from a card in the game versions of the TCG.<br />
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The first part is fine, the second point is incorrect as Exeggutor can also revert. Should the second point be deleted entirely as it both untrue and not unique or altered to include a connection with Exeggutor<br />
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e.g Slowbro and Exeggutor are the only recorded cases of Pokémon capable of devolution [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 12:43, 28 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
:The second point may be removed as it is not unique to one Pokémon.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 13:19, 28 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
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:: No worries, thank you.[[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 13:40, 28 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Poké Problem characters list ==<br />
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OK, so my recent edit of [[SM080]] was taken down by you on the basis that, since the Pokémon I put on the appearance list appeared exclusively in the episode's Poké Problem, it doesn't deserve a mention (since Poké Problems are part of the episode apparently). I've also noticed that some edits on [[SM079]] also got erased on the same reason. Yet previous episodes' character lists feature characters that only appeared in the episodes' Poké Problem segments (for example Brock & Misty's siblings in [[SM042]]'s case and Harper and Sarah for [[SM071]]). As such, I have to wonder why its sometimes okay for characters and Pokémon that appeared exclusively in the Poké Problem of an episode to be mentioned on the character lists of said episode, but other times it's not OK? [[User:Pulsaro23|Pulsaro23]] ([[User talk:Pulsaro23|talk]]) 17:03, 29 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Then those need to removed from their episodes and any other episodes that list PokéProblem appearances needs to be fixed. PokéProblem is a segment similar to Who's That Pokémon, it is not part of the actual episode.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 13:57, 30 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
::While I'll agree that the Poké Problem and Who's that Pokémon segments share a similarity (the fact that they are tied to a situation/Pokémon from the episode), they are also very different. By that I mean that, while the WtP segment doesn't have any impact on the overall story of the episode, the bonus scenes shown after the Poké Problem segments expand upon the story of the episode (personally, I'd say they're very similar to the after-credits scenes form the Marvel & DC movies). For example, the Poké Problem segments for SM022 and SM057 feature scenes that resolve the episodes' ending cliffhangers, while others, like the ones for SM042 and SM030, flesh out more of the characters' personality and traits, as well as showing their relationships with other characters. As such, I'd say that, while Poké Problem segments are really part of the main episode, they still have some degree of importance, since the scenes shown at the end of those segments expand upon the main theme/story/characters of the episode (and as such, they should, as you say, "count"). Plus, in the case of the XY series, characters that appeared exclusively in its Poké TV segments were mentioned on the appearance list for its episodes (e.g. XY096, XY099, XY106 etc.). So why should the Poké TV segments receive special treatment and the Poké Problem ones not? [[User:Pulsaro23|Pulsaro23]] ([[User talk:Pulsaro23|talk]]) 14:37, 30 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Usage of the word "native" ==<br />
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{{user|PardescanSlowbro}} is [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Raichu_%28Pok%C3%A9mon%29&type=revision&diff=2813914&oldid=2812285 concerned] about using the word "native" to describe the residents of [[Alola]] in the {{p|Raichu}} article, due to its connection to indigenous peoples who have been plagued with stereotypes and also its purported implicit nature as a development discourse, thus making it potentially offensive to some people. I did not see anything wrong with the word's usage, however, since it can alternatively be used as a synonym for "resident" or "citizen", as I [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2813930&oldid=2813886 pointed out to him]. He's still concerned and has [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:PardescanSlowbro&diff=next&oldid=2813930 pointed out] that official literature no longer uses the word, seemingly making it taboo, even though I have still heard it being used in the context I just described.<br />
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Do you think it is appropriate to use "native" in any shape or form here? I'm not aware of any other articles here that use the word. I do acknowledge the potential issue of indigenous peoples being offended, but I don't think anyone will be offended given the word's context in the Raichu article. What do you think? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 06:12, 30 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
:It's fine to use the word "native". No need to think that someone will get offended by the word.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 09:44, 30 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
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:: You failed to acknowledge my concerns, and reverted my re-edit after GrammarFreak01 again deleted it. The latest addition aided the sentence in making it more concise, and as stated, the phrase 'the natives' is not used by the Pokémon Company in any of it literature, and probably for good measure. The term 'native' to mean local makes sense though should only be applied to describe an area or plant such as on the Vileplume page under the biology section. I would like another opinion as you have allowed a good edit to be reverted[[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 05:52, 1 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::It's very clear you changed the sentence because of your dislike of the word "native", whether it was a good change or not. You made the change because there was a word you didn't like. That's why it got reverted. There's is nothing wrong with using the word. The Pokémon Company not using it doesn't mean we can't use the word. You're thinking too much into the negative connotation of the word.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 06:00, 1 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::: Negative connotations is your justification? I saw the term and looked at it as an opportunity to make a positive change in line with one of Bulbapedia's major aims, inclusivity. Allowing the phrase 'the natives' is an issue as it is loaded language and may be used on other pages in much the same way. But correcting the term to something more global and neutral has become the issue, leaving aside the issues associated with using this turn of phrase in the first place, even though the original editor of course had no intention of being racist or degrading to particular demographics. By actually allowing this term to pass through with your acceptance, you are also condoning the use of this term in much the same way across potentially other articles and it may enter people's own thoughts on people of different backgrounds. Inclusivity was my motivation because of the so-called negative and very true reality for many individuals on this planet, that terms like this are harmful. I cannot imagine the editor's guide has any detail on this specific turn of phrase, though it would diffidently be designed to uphold inclusivity of all peoples.[[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 06:23, 1 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::You just admitted that the editor that added the word had no intention of being racist or degrading, if you already think that then it shouldn't be an issue. It's not offensive unless someone makes it offensive. The sentence is in no way written in an offensive manner, and no one will take it as an insult. You're looking to much into it.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 06:57, 1 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::I'm afraid you are wrong when it comes to the development discourse, it is an issue incidental or not. I am going to contact someone higher up to alert them to my concerns about the phrase, not word, "the natives", as you have plainly ignored the fact that such terminology is typically avoided due to taboo and discrimination surrounding it. Thanks [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 07:06, 1 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::When used correctly, "native" can also be "global and neutral". The only way it can be considered "loaded language" is if the person writing it in question ''makes'' it loaded language. I understand the history behind the word, and I also understand that the current political climate makes usage of certain words even more dangerous, but if the word has alternate meanings that are more acceptable, then I don't see why we must avoid using it, no matter how incidental the racism. If you have a problem with it, take it up with Merriam-Webster, not the admins here. If someone else does have a problem with it, we'll talk it out, see where it goes. But in the meantime, we can't simply just avoid using a certain word out of concern of potentially offending someone, even if the word in question is used in an appropriate, non-offensive context. I can't think of anyone else here who would think this word, or similarly loaded language of any kind, should be omitted in its entirety even though it's being used in a non-offensive context. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 07:11, 1 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::Exactly. The word is not used in a derogatory manner, it is completely fine. It's all about context, and in this case, the context is not offensive. The only person that has a problem with it is you, Pardescan. And we won't change it just because one person thinks it may be offensive. I'll repeat this again, because you seem to be ignoring it, '''you are looking too much into the negative aspects of the word'''.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 07:32, 1 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::It looks like [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AAbcboy&type=revision&diff=2814552&oldid=2806683 he's made good on his promise]. I've already pitched my counterargument. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 07:43, 1 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Template mainspace request ==<br />
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For the new Light trio page, there would need to be six Pokémon in the stats section, but there is no such template. I made a [[User:Celadonkey/Template:Groupstats/6|template]] for it and I wanted to know if I could mainspace it to add to the Light trio page. --[[User:Celadonkey|Celadonkey]] 14:05, 3 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Integration of Spaceworld Iterations of Existing Pokémon ==<br />
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I felt I would ask this here, since you're the one who linked the in-progress pages for the Pokémon Gold/Silver Spaceworld demo and you seem to know what the plans for them are, and the Gold and Silver Beta discussion page is rather cluttered and doesn't seem like a good place to catch the attention of anybody in particular.<br />
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There are a number of Pokémon added for the demo that did end up being released as official Pokémon, such as the Mareep, and Phanpy lines, Crobat, Espeon, Umbreon, Miltank, and others, who are present in the Spaceworld demo build, sometimes with different names and subtly-different designs. Additionally, there are Pokémon such as Haneko, Poponeko, and Wataneko, Gift, Blissey, Scissors, Leafeon, etc. that are very obviously earlier drafts of Pokémon that would appear in Generation II or later.<br />
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Are these Pokémon going to be integrated into the site differently compared to, say, Pokémon like Honoguma, Kurusu, Norowara, Wolfman, or Twinz, that were very clearly cut entirely and have yet to appear in any official, publicly-released Pokémon game?<br />
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As an aside, how are name labels going to be handled for Pokémon such as Kingdra, Girafarig, and Bellossom, whose final names are already present and in use in the demo? It seems to me that the sensible thing to do would be to label them with their final English names, since the names they have do have official English-language counterparts, and it would be clearer and easier to read for readers who might be unfamiliar with with the Japanese names of those Pokémon.<br />
[[User:Topaz Light|Topaz Light]] ([[User talk:Topaz Light|talk]]) 14:38, 3 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Right now, the focus should be filling out the userpages with information before all that. The staff will figure out how the handle them in the mean time.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 05:58, 4 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== A Small Request ==<br />
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Hi. A while ago I had asked to be put in the forcepreview group for editing. If possible, I think I'm ready to edit without needing to look at all my edits beforehand. If you could please take me out of forcepreview, and abuse as well, I would really appreciate it. Thank you. [[User:Veralann|<span style="color:#ffa900;">'''Incentive'''</span><span style="color:#00c7ff">''' (a.k.a. Veralann)'''</span>]] 19:57, 5 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I'll take you out of force preview, but not out of abuse. You have not made nearly enough mainspace edits to warrant be placed out of abuse. Being away for a month means absolutely nothing. If you want out of abuse, prove that you will contribute more to the mainspace by making a whole lot of edits there.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 05:04, 6 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Random question ==<br />
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On the Pokemon articles, why do the Pokedex entry, location, and sprite tables always put Emerald before FireRed and LeafGreen even though Emerald was released after? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 18:42, 12 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Probably to group the hoenn games together.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 05:18, 13 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Thanks for answering, I guess. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 06:03, 13 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Bulbapedia lagging again ==<br />
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It seems this site is becoming very laggy for me. Is there an issue with the site? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 06:28, 16 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Site's running smoothly for me. Probably something on your end.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 06:37, 16 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Well, it seems the site's running smoothly for me now. It might've had something to do with the connection. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 06:42, 16 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== List of locations by name ==<br />
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I personally think the page should stop excluding named routes. Even if we somehow made the definition clear, I still don't want people checking both that page and "list of routes" to see if either of them has the location they want. I also don't see a good reason for the exclusion. I think excluding cities and numbered routes is okay because people can tell if somewhere is a city or numbered route just by looking at the name. Even then, I'm leaning toward including cities because some places (like Two Island) don't end in "City" or "Town" and aren't obviously cities. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 05:40, 18 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Staff imitating user ==<br />
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{{u|Форс файре}} is a cyrillisation of your name. --[[User:Raltseye|<span style="color:#FF6464">R</span><span style="color:#11BB11">alts</span><span style="color:#6464FF">eye</span>]] [[User talk:Raltseye|prata med mej]] 18:47, 18 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Nintenchris5963 ==<br />
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The user {{user|Nintenchris5963}} added something to the [[Talk:Mt. Silver]] which I'm pretty sure isn't allowed on talk pages. Should the comment he made be removed or should it stay? (I'm only asking since it's normally not allowed to remove Talk Page comments). '''Ice''' [[User talk:The IceCream|Cream]] 10:46, 19 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:You can remove comments that breach the talk page policy.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 11:53, 19 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== "Faint" versus "Get knocked out" ==<br />
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"Faint" is the more technical term, so I try to change "knocked out" to "faint" wherever I can. Also, a few days ago, I tried to look for information about fainting by doing ctrl+f "faint" and couldn't find anything because the article said "knocked out" instead, so what I wanted took me a few minutes longer to find. I eventually made that edit in attempt to save time for anyone who might attempt the same thing in the future. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 15:03, 29 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:That sounds like a problem specifically for you. We are not going to cater the site whenever you face a problem. "Knocked out" carries the same meaning as "fainted", like what else could it possibly mean.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 15:21, 29 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
::The reasons why "fainted" is better than "knocked out", however insignificant, exist. Is there a reason why "knocked out" is better than "fainted"? And aren't we supposed to use technical terms over "fanmade terms" whenever possible? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 23:25, 29 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Neither is better, but both '''mean the same thing in spirit''' (unable to battle). It's not a necessary change. And "knocked out" is not "fan made" it's just a word used to substitute "fainted". Using a word that is not official doesn't make the word "fan made", that's just being ridiculous. Don't change things because you couldn't find something, just because you couldn't find something doesn't mean everyone else will face the same problem.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 02:57, 30 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::If neither is better, why do you care which one the article says? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 17:28, 30 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::Because it's an '''unnecessary change'''. Just because we use another word other than fainted, doesn't make that word fan-made. Like in a plot synopsis, we're not going to use the term "fainted" every time a Pokémon faints, we're going to use other terms like "knocked out" from time to time. Y'know, have a bit of variety in our articles.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 05:12, 31 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::That section was a game mechanic, not a plot synopsis. Aren't they different? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 17:45, 1 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::That's not the point. The point is, '''it's an unnecessary change'''. Stop reading what you want to read. It doesn't matter if it's not using the word "faint". Using another word other than "faint" doesn't make the article more inaccurate. It's just a word. You're thinking too much into it. No one will get confused by the term "knocked out". They'll know what it means.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 05:09, 2 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::I think what Force Fire tries to tell you isn't "don't change specifically this to specifically that", it's rather "don't change '''anything''' if the change doesn't clearly improve the article". The larger the number of edits, the more work there is for the servers; we should only change anything if it's justified. That's why he cares which one of the equally good terms stays — because changing it will unnecessarily overload servers. First come, first served in this case. [[User:Kikugi|Kikugi]] ([[User talk:Kikugi|talk]]) 15:37, 4 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Mallow Tsareena Sweet Scent ==<br />
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Hi. So in SM082 Mallow's Tsareena does something that some would describe as Sweet Scent, as it has a similar appearance and effect to how the move was used in its pre-evolved forms. PlayerKing95 has removed it because we don't have enough proof, despite the evidence pointing towards it. I, as well as another user, has reached out to him to discuss it. It has been more than a week now and he has ignored multiple messages to resolve this issue, and it is making me think that he will continue to ignore messages because it means the page can't be changed. Could I get some help with this? Thank you. --[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 14:48, 4 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I have given him a message. I currently have no strong opinions on this matter, generally we can say it's Sweet Scent because the animation is unlikely to change upon evolution. But I'm interested in what Playerking has to say.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 15:11, 4 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Thank you, looks like he finally responded to it. Based on his answer is it safe to put Sweet Scent back on, as there doesn't seem to be an argument against it.--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 16:14, 4 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Hello again. It's been a couple weeks and I was wondering what the status of Sweet Scent is. Thanks.--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 13:59, 30 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Random question ==<br />
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When I type just about anything in the search bar, the autocomplete suggestions always appear in the same order. For example, typing only "user:" always displays "User:Tiddlywinks", "User:Force Fire", "User:Raltseye", "User:SnorlaxMonster", etc. in that order. Do you have any idea what determines that order? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 04:12, 6 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Pretty sure the ordering is just random.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 04:18, 6 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
::If it was completely random, would it still put more active users closer to the top? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 04:35, 6 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::It's probably fixed, random but fixed. The listing probably wouldn't change regardless of how active a user is.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 04:51, 6 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::It could be fixed by the most visisted user pages. --[[User:Raltseye|<span style="color:#FF6464">R</span><span style="color:#11BB11">alts</span><span style="color:#6464FF">eye</span>]] [[User talk:Raltseye|prata med mej]] 11:00, 6 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Reason ==<br />
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Could you give a summary rather than only reverting a contribution without reason, that's irritating. {{unsigned|KyleRGiggs}}<br />
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:He's reverting you because this is the mandatory writing style for a recurring character in the anime and you're pointlessly changing it at [[Professor Burnet]]. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 04:45, 6 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Exactly. Your reasoning for removing it didn't even make sense, and if you actually read other anime character articles, other recurring characters also use the term "reappears".--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 04:51, 6 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::So DID both of you read the article CAREFULLY why "Since their marriage, Burnet has moved in with Kukui and Ash and '''has made regular appearances''' in the Sun & Moon series ever since." is present in the sentence? So why don't Professor Kukui being "reappear" for every episode? Regular appearancing should not be recurring? I don't get the sense. {{unsigned|KyleRGiggs}}<br />
::::Just because someone makes regular appearances, doesn't mean we can't use the word "reappear". Besides, the two don't appear that regularly, especially for Burnet who only appeared once in between SM071-80 (not counting the PokeProblem segment) and Kukui only physically appears four times in that 10 episode span. And sign your comments.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 05:18, 6 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::I did read that sentence. To be honest, that sentence needs to be reworded. As Force Fire said, it's not as regular as that sentence implies. If she did appear "regularly", then she'd actually be a main character, and then the need to list every episode she appears in is diminished. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 05:46, 6 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Random stuff ==<br />
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Since I last contacted you, I've come up with a few new things to ask every now and then, but they keep slipping my mind when I don't talk about them. Hence why I've decided to dedicate this section of the talk page for subjects that I come up with and need admin help for, which means that I may sometimes come back here when I come up with something new. But anyway, let's get started with the most recent subject I've come up with: the [[Looker]] Bureau post-game story from {{pkmn|X and Y}}. Since the [[Delta Episode]] and [[Episode RR]] have their own pages, shouldn't the Looker Bureau storyline also get its own article? I think it would deserve it.<br><br />
Oh, and speaking of new articles: has my suggestion of splitting the Kantonian Gym and Tide Song Hotel into their own location articles been moving forward? Has it received enough approval to actually be done some day? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 10:17, 6 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I did bring them (Kantonian Gym and Tide Song Hotel) up with the other staff members, didn't really come to a solid conclusion. For me, they both appear to have very little information text wise (from what is already there), and what we don't want are articles that are just one paragraph and a whole bunch of templates. I think it'd be good to create them in your userspace to see how the page will look.<br />
:The Looker saga could be made into it's own page. Make on in your userpage so the staff can decide if it's needed.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 05:22, 7 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
::I've created the page for the Kantonian Gym [[User:FinnishPokéFan92/Kantonian Gym|here]], and I also intend to start making the Tide Song Hotel and Looker Bureau pages as soon as I find the time for it. In the meantime, though, there's a couple of other things I would like to bring up.<br />
::Firstly, [[Talk:Serena (game)#Father? (revived)|this talk]] regarding the X and Y rival's father. Evidence heavily suggests that Calem/Serena's father is a Veteran Trainer who can be found in [[Snowbelle City]], but for the last bit of confirmation, we need someone who can read Japanese. Could you ask someone to help with that?<br />
::And secondly... Secondly... Well, this is ''exactly'' why I should come here to vent ideas out of my head more often. I've forgotten my second point. Embarrassing, I know, but I'll come back to it once I remember it.<br />
::--[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 07:22, 10 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Ah, I remember now! Some time ago, I created a category for {{cat|Legendary and Mythical Pokémon locations}}, my intention being to have it attached to the {{template|legendarylocations}} template. However, said template is protected, so I'd need help from a user like you to put it there. Could you do it? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 08:59, 10 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::I've brought the Kantonian Gym page to the others. There was talks of the Serena's father issue a while back, I think one of the staff members found in game text supporting it, though I asked again to be sure. Navigation templates only need the Navigation template category, the category you provided would go on the actual location pages.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 09:59, 11 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::Thanks, looking forward to the results.<br />
::::Yes, it's been proven that the gender pronoun used by the supposed father changes depending on the player character's gender, but we now also have links to two Japanese videos to see if this occurs in the Japanese version too, which could count as the final piece of evidence, and is why we need someone who can understand Japanese to confirm it.<br />
::::I mean like this: <nowiki><includeonly>[[Category:Legendary and Mythical Pokémon locations]]</includeonly></nowiki> When a category is attached to a template like this, it will only apply to the pages where said template is used at, not the template itself. That's what I would like you to do, if possible.<br />
::::--[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 10:56, 11 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::I've now finished the Tide Song Hotel page as well. You can find it [[User:FinnishPokéFan92/Tide Song Hotel|here]]. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 18:20, 11 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::Excuse the delay. The Looker bureau post game story can be made, with the title "Looker events" as that is what it's called in-game, according to another staff member. Haven't gotten much feedback regarding the other stuff that you brought up. I'll keep you updated regarding those.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 07:14, 15 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::Thanks for the update. Will do. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 08:45, 15 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::I haven't started working on the Looker evernts yet, but I haven't forgotten about them. In the meantime, though, there's an issue that has been bugging me for years now, which nobody has appparently done anything to fix yet. I'm talking about Generation VI models. Not only are we still missing most VS models from at least one set of the Generation VI core series games, we are also still missing a couple VS models: [[Archie]] and [[Zinnia]] are missing their VS models altogether (they've been using temporary ones for years now), and {{an|Brendan}} and {{an|May}} are missing their VS models with a [[Key Stone|Mega Bracelet]]. I've also wondered if the difference between the {{tc|Team Flare Grunt}}s who are striking a pose and those who aren't would warrant alternate VS models for them, but that's a lesser priority in my books.<br />
::::::::And, as for a more recent case of the same issue, we're still missing several US/UM VS models as well, including the {{tc|Master & Apprentice}} and {{tc|Sparring Partners}} VS models and [[Gladion]]'s VS model with a Z-Power Ring. Could you bring this up with people who could possibly fix these issues? I've tried to do it myself a couple times over the years, but it has never lead to anything. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 09:02, 20 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::Oh, almost forgot! [[Giovanni]]'s first VS model is a bit dark, and [[Professor Kukui]] is also missing his model with the Z-Power Ring. PS. Has the Serena/Calem father topic been solved? Can it be considered confirmed? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 11:18, 20 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::The VS sprites are something that is still ongoing, it just gets lower and lower on the priority list whenever something new comes around. It's something that will be done, "when" I can't really say for sure. Users are free to upload the models themselves, granted they get it from somewhere that isn't a fan site.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 11:54, 24 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::Figures. I'm just a guy who hates incompleteness, so these lingering cases of incompleteness tend to bug me a lot. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 12:17, 24 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::::For a while now already, I've been planning a massive edit project, where I go over '''every single''' page with a Stadium and Stadium 2 party template, and change the number of Poké Balls in the template(s) to 3 instead of 6 (since only three of the six Pokémon are always used per battle), as well as remove the word "Pokémon" from the game name, as it isn't that way in any other game party templates either. But that's why I've come here for you this time: in preparation for this project, could you edit {{template|Party/Single}} to include codes for Stadium and Stadium 2 in the game name section? And while we're on the topic of this template, do the Battle Chatelaines alone warrant a combined code for X, Y, OR, and AS, and the few version-exclusive Battle Tree Trainers from Generation VII codes for S/US and M/UM, respectively? PS. I hope you understood that last part. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 17:51, 3 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::::Thanks. I saw you just doing this, and I'm honestly really grateful for it, but in case you didn't know, when we refer to "Pokémon Stadium", the link should go to "[[Pokémon Stadium (English)]]", instead of just "[[Pokémon Stadium]]". --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 07:37, 5 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::::Never mind. You noticed that yourself. Sorry. XP --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 07:38, 5 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
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{{indent}}Added Stadium/2 to the template. As for changing the Poké Ball number, I'm iffy about it. I get what you're saying, but they still have six possible Pokémon. As for the last request, I assume you mean for the party template?, if so, they're already coded in.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 07:40, 5 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Yeah. Personally, I'm inclined to keep the six Poké Balls too, but, as you can see {{DL|Professor Kukui|Battle Royal Dome|here}}, for example, some user(s) apparently think that the number of shown Poké Balls should be equal to the maximum number of Pokémon that can be used from said selection of Pokémon at a time. Hence why most [[Pokémon World Tournament|PWT]] teams have six Balls, since all six Pokémon are used if the [[Triple Battle]] format is in used. Then there's also the case where the pool of possible Pokémon is greater than six, but I can understand that one.<br />
:As for the codes, I meant as in a code of "XYORAS" turning out as "X, Y, Omega Ruby, and Alpha Sapphire", and codes "SUS" and "MUM" turning out as "Sun and Ultra Sun" and "Moon and Ultra Moon", respectively. However, as I said, the former would only apply to the four {{tc|Battle Chatelaine}}s, while the latter ones would only apply for the few [[Battle Tree]] Special Trainers who are version-exclusive, so I wondered if that's a good enough reason for those codes to be created. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 09:26, 5 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::For the Kukui article, I think the line "Master Rank challenge of the Battle Royal, using three of the following Pokémon" will suffice. If they're confused, then they are just flat out not reading the article. As for the stadium articles, I think a similar line could work.<br />
::Ah I see, I've added the code for those.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 09:45, 5 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Thanks a ton! Now there's nothing stopping me from starting my grand edit project! And it's going to be even easier I expected, thanks to you!<br />
:::Nice work... Except that you made a small typo. You accidentally wrote "SUM" instead of "MUM" for "Moon and Ultra Moon". --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 11:18, 5 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::Another small typo found. The link for Stadium 2 leads just to "Pokémon Stadium". You forgot the "2" from the end. Whoops...<br />
::::Also, another unrelated thing: in Pokémon Colosseum, the player character starts the game off with a number of healing items in their Bag. Does this qualify as a method of acquiring these items for their respective articles? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 16:52, 5 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::Fixed. As for the items, I'd say those count.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 07:02, 6 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::I think we need a link template to make the Alola game links easier to create, as writing "<nowiki>[[Pokémon Sun and Moon|Pokémon Sun, Moon]], [[Pokémon Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon|Ultra Sun, and Ultra Moon]]</nowiki>" for a link version of "Pokémon Sun, Moon, Ultra Sun, and Ultra Moon" again and again can get tiresome, plus it eats up a lot of unnecessary space. I'd do it myself, but I'm not sure how, so I've come to ask for your help again. Can you do it, or at least ask someone else to do it? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 09:30, 17 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::Took a while to remember what the template was, but [[Template:Game4]] exists, though I edited it to add USUM. Typing the code <nowiki>{{game4|Sun|Moon|Sun|Moon}}</nowiki> should give you this: {{game4|Sun|Moon|Sun|Moon}}.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 11:54, 19 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::Thank you! Also, another issue regarding link templates: when adding a link to a Pokémon's alternate form, it's usually written as <nowiki>{{DL|List of Pokémon with form differences|<Pokémon>|<Form name>}}</nowiki>, which, like the previous thing you fixed, is a bit lengthy, especially if done repeatedly. So I've been thinking about the creation of a link template to fix the issue, going something like this: <nowiki>{{form|<Pokémon>|<Form name>}}</nowiki>, which would lead to the correct section of [[List of Pokémon with form differences]], based on the contents of the second slot (the one with <Pokémon> in my example here). Do you think this could/should be made? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 13:58, 19 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::Also, I just noticed: your edit on {{template|game4}} was a bit flawed. The "Sun and Moon" part of the link includes the word "Versions", even though it's not supposed to. I saw you fixed this issue regarding the "Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon" part of the link, but it seems you still missed something. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 06:04, 21 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::Did you miss my above messages? Or have you just been too busy to answer yet? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 08:55, 26 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::I purposely left the "versions" in the first link as I wasn't confident whether adding a switch would mess the template up and mess up other pages that are using the template, so I didn't risk it. I'll bring up to idea for a "form template" to the other staff members, though I think it's a fine idea.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 12:45, 26 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::::1) Oh. I see. Well, I've already used the template on a couple pages, so now what? 2) Thank you. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 13:32, 26 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::::Just leave the ones you've added. I'll tweak the template in a userspace at some point. As for the form template, [[User:Abcboy/Form|Abcboy]] has already made a template in his userpage, that'll be under consideration.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 13:03, 27 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
{{indent}}Thank you. Also, whoa. It appears that this template idea wasn't as new as I thought. Let's hope it'll finally get mainspaced some day. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 14:04, 27 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Thanks for helping me out with {{user|EternalDragonX}}. He also left a reply to your response already, just in case you haven't noticed yet. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 17:45, 2 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::He still doesn't believe either of us. Could you do something about it? And, if possible, could you continue the talk with him on his page instead of mine? PS. His refusal to use big capital letters in talk pages irks me. I know there's technically nothing wrong with it, but if you see fit to notify him about it too, then please do. If you don't, I won't hold it against you. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 16:18, 3 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::A few days ago, he started arguing with me about [[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92#viridian gym|another subject (s)]]. Please help me. I'm seriously growing tired of this. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 18:39, 6 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::I'll leave a message on their talk page.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 03:01, 7 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::Thank you. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:55, 7 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Undoing changes ==<br />
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Please, don't revert changes as I add information that a [[Focus Sash]] can be stolen from [[Iris]]' {{p|Haxorus}} during all the battles. I don't want to cause an edit war, but I placed the information in the correct row ({{gameabbrev5|B2W2}}). [[User:TheICTLiker4|TheICTLiker4]] ([[User talk:TheICTLiker4|talk]]) 06:56, 12 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:And as Finnish said, you don't permanently keep the item. It doesn't count.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 07:14, 12 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Status ==<br />
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What does "status" mean when used to describe Bulbapedia users? Like, how do we know the difference between "hiatus" and "inactive"? How long of a break counts as a hiatus? What does "X" mean? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 01:31, 24 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:If someone is on "hiatus", that means they are away for some time but will return eventually, how long the hiatus is differs between staff members. "Inactive" is detailed {{bp|Inactive Staff|here}}. X denotes someone of high authority, they may not be very active but they are still very important staff members.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 11:54, 24 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
::If someone says he/she/it is on hiatus and doesn't come back, then how long does it usually take for other people to change that person's status to "inactive"? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 18:18, 24 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::That decision is up to the Editor in Chief.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 04:34, 25 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::Okay thanks. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 00:07, 26 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Possible inappropriate name ==<br />
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Someone under {{user|RAEVEisdumb}} was created after someone called {{user|RAEVE}} was just created. Should it be flagged? '''Ice''' [[User talk:The IceCream|Cream]] 19:43, 24 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I've blocked the former but left the latter unblocked. I ''could'' block them both since they both share the same IP, but since RAEVE hasn't done anything yet, I'll leave them unblocked unless they become a problem.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 04:34, 25 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== PardescanSlowbro again ==<br />
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I have tried to offer [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2840364&oldid=2826236 constructive criticism] on PardescanSlowbro's spelling of "compliment" in [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Tyson_%28Hoenn%29&type=revision&diff=2840264&oldid=2834631 this edit], but once again, he responded with paranoia, a refusal to cooperate, and accusations of edit-stalking ([https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2840597&oldid=2840364] [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2840645&oldid=2840640] [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2840648&oldid=2840647] [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2840661&oldid=2840649]). In the last diff, he even had the gall to tell me I shouldn't be contacting anyone if that's how I'm going to talk to people. This is in spite of me [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2840647&oldid=2840645 admitting that my original message unintentionally did not come across as constructive and apologizing for that]. I cannot even talk about the most basic constructive criticism with this guy, and it is so frustrating. I was actually hoping I could have a more in-depth discussion about his writing style in regards to his recent edits, but given that he's always reacting like this in some form or fashion, I cannot muster the courage to talk to him, no matter what the subject is. I can't even properly talk to him about the minor stuff (silly, I know, but I can't even talk to him about the major stuff in the first place). I talk to other users the same way I'm talking to him, yet he's always the one who responds with hostility and vitriol. I'm really not trying to be malicious towards him or anything like that. Can you please comment on this? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 08:59, 29 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Grammarfreak at it again ==<br />
I know, you're very busy. But it seems that Grammarfreak are trying everything to post his/her claim are right. While everyone is wrong. Especially, when he illegally created it voice actress article without admin permission. Especially for trying to make it sounds he taken command of everything. If you can, could you please ban him/her. I tired of his aggression and persistent changing the sentences to be great. Thank you! [[User:Singaporean|Singaporean]] ([[User talk:Singaporean|talk]]) 02:57, 5 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
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:[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ASingaporean&type=revision&diff=2843736&oldid=2839035 I already told you], I didn't know you already had a userspace article for [[Sumire Morohoshi]] in the works, and I'm sorry about that! That aside, how is that "illegal"? I admitted it was a mistake caused by a lazy eye. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 03:18, 5 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:: You know, you create with one article after another without admin permission is already officially illegal. That is also included disrespectful to me after all the hard work, I have done and learns to make a better article. But it seems that, you had a history of pattern aggressive toward everybody. I wasn't surprised, your primary target now is me. It wasn't take every long in a next few day. You will ditch my all my userspace edited and try to create one to waste more page to fill in the empty to draw attention to everyone. Remind you again, this is not your playground of editing. [[User:Singaporean|Singaporean]] ([[User talk:Singaporean|talk]]) 03:28, 5 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::A while back, I [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:Tiddlywinks#Creating_Japanese_voice_actor_articles asked] {{U|Tiddlywinks}} about the process of creating VA articles, and they directed me to [[Bulbapedia:Project VA]] without mentioning anything else. The main project page ''never'', ''EVER'' said anything about having to consult with the admins first before the creation of an individual article, and trust me, I read through that thing thoroughly. I've been at this since last month, and no one has given me any warnings or blocked me for creating so many VA articles during that time. This is in comparison to [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:GrammarFreak01/Archive_1#Creating_pages the warning I got] from Tiddlywinks hours after I created the [[Ash's Pikachu (M20)]] article (which was what motivated me to ask Tiddlywinks about the VA articles in the first place). Because of all that, I took it that my actions were already cleared by Tiddlywinks and I didn't even have to worry about asking the admins any further.<br />
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:::If it was supposed to be common sense for me to just alert the admins about the creation of any kind of article beforehand, then I do apologize for that. I was simply following everything that was laid out for me at [[Bulbapedia:Project VA]], with the misconception that Tiddlywinks was alright with everything simply because I contacted him only once before my article creation spree. And ''trust me'', I am now reviewing all of the other userspace articles you've got so I will know which VAs you are already working on. I'm so sorry if you felt cheated and that your hard work on the Morohoshi userspace article was wasted because of me. I swear, I was not aware of that userspace article, and that is not going to happen again, I promise. Especially now that you've got your own eye on me and my conduct. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 03:48, 5 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::Regardless of your apologize to me or not. The action will be leave to [[User:Force Fire|Force Fire]] to dealt with. Even though of the risk for me being banned one more time again. I also satisfied. [[User:Singaporean|Singaporean]] ([[User talk:Singaporean|talk]]) 03:57, 5 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::I'm well aware that it's all up to Force Fire, given the severity of your complaints against me. I'm just trying to explain what you would call my more egregious actions. I at least have that right to do so, don't I? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 03:59, 5 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
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GrammarFreak already clarified that he didn't see your userpage, Singaporean. No need to overreact the way you did. He apologized, move on. Anyone can create a VA article, granted that it fits the notability criteria. Users can make it on the mainspace, '''only if''' they are capable of making it up to Bulbapedia standards upon making the article (to which I feel GrammarFreak did). And don't take that as an invitation to create VA article on the mainspace, Singaporean.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 07:18, 5 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:If you say so, then I will go ahead and create all my remaining work directly without the need of my userspace. Thanks. [[User:Singaporean|Singaporean]] ([[User talk:Singaporean|talk]]) 12:30, 5 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::No. I '''did not''' say you can make them in the mainspace. I literally said it in my response. The ones you made on your userspace still needs to be approved. And that is '''NOT''' how you move userpages to the mainspace.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 12:59, 5 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::My apologized for my rush work. I didn't know about it. It is already almost a year and I didn't heard anything about you and the other approved my work to main article is just really frustrating. I do hope, you can give me an answer after a few days later. Thank you! [[User:Singaporean|Singaporean]] ([[User talk:Singaporean|talk]]) 13:05, 5 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== A strange user talk page ==<br />
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Hello and sorry if I'm bothering you, but I started to wonder, if such content as [[User talk:CarterLumpkins|this]] is OK to have on one's user talk page. This doesn't seem to aggressively promote some service, thought it does have a weblink. However, the topic is so NOT Pokémon... is this allowed? Is this evidence of a spammer? The user page was created three minutes before the talk page. Thank you! [[User:Kikugi|Kikugi]] ([[User talk:Kikugi|talk]]) 12:33, 6 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Dealt with. Those are usually spambots.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 12:55, 6 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Search bar problems ==<br />
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I just started having a problem with the search bar at the left of my screen. Every time I type something in, it won't show me a list of options, and every time I try to look up a list of pages containing a certain word(s), it won't show the lists. Instead, there's a message that reads, "An error has occurred while searching: We could not complete your search due to a temporary problem. Please try again later." I definitely know I'm not misspelling anything. What's going on with that? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 04:15, 9 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Staff are aware of the issue and will try to get to the bottom of it asap.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 05:01, 9 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Okay. That's good to know. Thanks for the heads-up. :) [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 05:06, 9 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Internal error ==<br />
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Occasionally, since about last week, I've been getting these "Internal error" messages every time I try to submit an edit. I manage to get through it, but the frequency of these messages is starting to increase and I don't know what's going on. This is an example of the "Internal error" message I tend to get.<br />
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[8e5e0cf8d713375f0b2bb8b3] 2018-09-17 04:55:29: Fatal exception of type "Error"<br />
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Would you mind getting to the bottom of this? Thank you. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 04:57, 17 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
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:I'm still getting these messages with intensifying frequency. Here's the latest one:<br />
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[d52bf67181c53700b65c1f44] 2018-09-18 04:52:01: Fatal exception of type "Error"<br />
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:[[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 04:53, 18 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Staff are aware of the issues and are looking into it.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 05:58, 18 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Thank you. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 19:19, 18 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
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::::I'm not sure what's being done to rectify this problem, nor do I presume to know, but for the record, I'm still having these problems. Here's the latest one I got:<br />
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[39026dee922ac834907c8f6e] 2018-09-20 07:23:46: Fatal exception of type "Error"<br />
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::::[[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 07:25, 20 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
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:::::My apologies, but this problem is still happening for me. Is the staff still investigating the issue? Or did they think they found a solution and implemented it already? Not that I doubt anyone's effectiveness in this matter. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 23:43, 12 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::Still haven't heard back on whether the problem was fixed or not, but I'll ping the higher ups about the issue.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 04:31, 13 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::Okay, thanks. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 04:45, 13 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Transfer-only moves and ability changes ==<br />
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Can we add a section to every Pokemon page that lists all the moves the Pokemon can know only if it originated in an earlier generation (move tutors, old TMs, etc.)? Cross-checking multiple pages for this information is annoying. Second, can we change the Pokemon infobox template to make pages like {{p|Pelipper}} clear that Pelipper can't have drizzle in Generations 3-6? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 18:06, 24 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Zlblosser18 ==<br />
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A little heads-up, it looks like in spite of [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AZlblosser18&type=revision&diff=2853997&oldid=2853990 your advice], Zlblosser18 is still [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Charmander_%28Pok%C3%A9mon%29&type=revision&diff=2855104&oldid=2855092 removing templates]. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 20:22, 30 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
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:It also seems like they're disregarding [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Zlblosser18&diff=prev&oldid=2855095 my advice] that titles like [[Pokémon Origins]] and [[Pokémon Generations]] are not traditionally italicized here. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 20:25, 30 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Looks like TiddlyWinks has given them a final warning. --[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 04:33, 1 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Seems like it. I'll withdraw the complaint, then. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 05:02, 1 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== floor order cont ==<br />
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im confused, youre saying the ordering will be RBY>GSC>FRLG>HGSS regardless of floor order? so do you mean list all rby items before gsc or put them together if there are two items on the same floor? yes, i am using common sense by not putting an item deep in the dungeon first, but what if said deep item were to be on one of the earlier floors if not the earliest? then floor order dictates i would have to list said item before many of the other items i pass by before i even get to it. thats why floor order is bad. i know were not a walkthrough, but we have to list the items in one way or another, and like you said, it should make sense atleast right? I understand that it is not a "high" priority. but if i can list in an order that makes sense, why not? is floor order really a higher priority? again im trying to say that floor order is bad. --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 12:58, 4 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Yes, the game order will still be the same regardless of the template going by floor order. If an items exist in more than one set of games and is in the same location, the games get put together.<br />
:Just so we're on the same page here, when you say "deep" you mean tucked in the furthest part of the first floor, right? Because there's no way the place I just described could be the first thing you come across. If you mean if the player traverses from the opposite end (say Victory Road, Pokemon League entrance to Route 22 entrance), then that's not really important. The location ordering should be from the player's first run through of the area (so Route 22 to Pokemon League).<br />
:Sorting by floor order helps users see what items are available at a certain floor in one grouping. It'd actually be ''more'' confusing if the listing were to alternate between "Floor 1" and "Floor 2", especially if there's suddenly a "Basement floor" in between them.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 14:43, 4 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::may i suggest instead of RBY>GSC>FRLG>HGSS, that it be RBY>FRLG>GSC>HGSS? because rby frlg are basically the same games and a lot of the time they will have items that are common to all of them, but also a lot of the time frlg will have some new items, and shoving gsc items in between would not only look weird, but confusing.<br />
::yes i mean for example tucked away in a place on the first floor that also serves as the back exit. therefore in a regular playthrough, most players would pick up said item last, since you run by every other item before it. victory road is a perfect example of what im talking about. of course i wouldnt list the items as if they were going from indigo plateau to route 22. that makes no sense. if you look at the list: https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Victory_Road_(Kanto)#Items i list guard spec ultra ball and full restore on floor 2 after overheat on floor 3. why? because those 3 items are grouped in an area in floor 2 that can only be accessible after passing through the entirety of floor 3; the area in this case being the exit. so in my head, this ordering makes perfect sense. blindly following floor order would mean i would list these items before the max revive, which again i dont think makes much sense since we talked about how they literally cant be come acrossed before the floor 3 items. --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 18:11, 4 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Any unpredictable order is bad. A reasonable person would generally expect to see everything for a floor together. If I see several items that start with something like 1F, 2F, 1F, 3F, 5F (or whatever), it just looks messy to me. Nothing that extreme may occur in the games, but that's what your logic would demand. (And less extreme examples are still messy IMO.)<br />
:::It's not exactly hard to look back to the "end" of a floor if there were items you just couldn't get to when you passed through the first part (if floors are grouped). But if floors aren't grouped, then if I see several items starting with "2F" and then that turns into "3F", I'm gonna think those were all the items on 2F in the list, and that can be very confusing. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 00:34, 5 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::altho i still believe that 1F, 2F, 1F, 3F, 5F (or whatever) would be better if it made sense that you'd get the items that way, i have argued my point to the fullest and i can respect it if you disagree. however, still waiting on you force fire to answer my question about listing the items in region order rather than game order. aka kanto>johto>hoenn etc. over rby>gsc>frlg etc. --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 00:57, 5 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::Ordering the games by RBY>FRLG>GSC>HGSS is fine, some (or a majority of) articles are like this.<br />
:::::So we are talking about the same thing, that brings up the question of why you are concerned about having to place an item that is deep in a dungeon as the first item. As I said, the order should be listed on the players first run through of the area. You don't need to worry about those that'll traverse the opposite way.<br />
:::::As for items that can only be accessed via another floor, group those under all the other Floor 2 items and say in the descriptor that it requires traversing through Floor 3. Putting those items below Floor 3 makes it a touch confusing, and also a bit walkthrough-ish. I guess it's just me being condescending, but players should be able figure that stuff (having to traverse through floor 3 to get to some floor 2 items) for themselves. And ass TiddlyWinks said, listing the items by floor looks much more cleaner and easier on the eyes.<br />
:::::Also, I saw and checked that you changed the template to be one big listing rather than separate listings. Maybe that should've been discussed first before making the edit. --[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 04:47, 5 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::i am concerned about having to place an item that is deep as the first item because if for example it was one of, if not the only, items on the first accessible floor (say floor 1), but not accessible unless you traverse one of the other floors (say floor 2), then we gotta list it first even tho you probably get the other items on floor 2 before it. you already answered this in your 3rd paragraph. like i said to tiddlywinks if u guys feel like floor order is cleaner then fine. i also like your solution of putting in the descriptor that it requires traversing through floor 3. i think ill do that. --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 14:33, 5 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::about putting in the descriptor that obtaining an item requires traversing another floor.. would you just list that as a sentence at the end? or would you like put it in an asterisk at the end? --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 15:24, 5 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::Examples of these sorts of explanations/directions can be seen on pages like [[Frost Cavern]], [[Victory Road (Kalos)]], and [[Haina Desert]]. The descriptions should be easily readable, which tooltips are not (mobile users cannot read them at all AFAIK). The only reason to consider a tooltip would be if the detail is exceptionally long. (Because a very long description is, itself, also not the most readable thing.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:24, 6 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Satomi Kōrogi ==<br />
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I need help moving the [[Satomi Kōrogi]] article. The romanization seems to prefer using Satomi K'''oo'''rogi instead but I am unable to move the article because of a redirect interfering. Thank you. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 22:33, 6 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Moved.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 03:01, 7 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Thanks! :D [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 03:18, 7 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Transfer-only moves and ability changes ==<br />
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Can we add a section to every Pokemon page that lists all the moves the Pokemon can know only if it originated in an earlier generation (move tutors, old TMs, etc.)? Cross-checking multiple pages for this information is annoying. Second, can we change the Pokemon infobox template to make pages like {{p|Pelipper}} clear that Pelipper can't have drizzle in Generations 3-6? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 20:34, 10 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I personally see no need in listing transferable moves, it's common sense. Of course a Pokémon that only knows X move in Gen III is going to know it if you transfer it to a Gen vII game. And it's really not much of a nuisance. Want a to know a Pokémon's moveset from a specific generation? go to the separate learnlists. Want a specific move? go to the specific move article. It's not ''that'' annoying.<br />
:The infobox templates is currently in discussions of an update. The update will accommodate having more abilities listed. Have patience.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 07:05, 11 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::The whole purpose of learnset sections was to put every move that a Pokemon can know in one place, right? If the learnset sections are not doing that, what other purpose do they have? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 19:47, 12 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::It's to list moves a Pokémon can learn in the '''current''' generation. Transferring moves isn't exactly "learning a move by level up or breeding in Generation VII". If a Pokémon can only learn a move in a previous generation, go to that generation's learnset or the move's article. You're only clicking one link, not 500. It's not as mundane as you're making it out to be.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 04:29, 13 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::It appears to me you're just saying how another question is easy to answer.<br />
::::If you're seriously interested in this (not just stalling), let me suggest (with best intentions) to just try to answer "What moves can Pikachu '''''know''''' in a copy of, say, USUM?" by browsing Bulbapedia. I currently need more than 5 minutes, and I would consider this ''the'' central use case, and probably the most important question for competitive play. (It's not even easy to be confident the resulting list was exhaustive, so if you'd like, you may even post your list here, and let me see if I have any more.) [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 09:46, 13 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::Saying "what can Pikachu learn in USUM" is literally the same as saying "what can Pikachu learn in Gen VII". Not Gen II. Not Gen IV. Saying a specific game means you're looking for a learnset from a specific generation. And it certainly does not take "more than 5 minutes" to find what you want. If you know what you're looking for, you have a Pokémon and move/generation in mind, it should only take you one minute top. A few clicks. You're not going to be scouring the entire site just to look for one move.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 11:43, 13 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::Neither of these question were asked, you just continue to answer them.<br />
::::::Pikachu can ''know'' moves in USUM that it cannot ''learn'' in USUM, {{m|Mega Kick}}, for example. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 12:10, 13 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::It's called a learnlist for a reason, moves a Pokémon can learn in a game or generation. Of course it'll know a move from a previous generation if you transfer it to a current game, that does not need to be spelled out. No one is going to think that it won't know the move once they transfer the Pokémon. If users want to know what moves it can learn previously, they can browse the site.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 12:24, 13 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
{{indent}}I'm not sure you understand me/us (or even try to, really). So, just for me to get this clear: Are you saying that, in your opinion, a) the question "What moves can <species> '''''know''''' in <game/generation>?" is not relevant, not worthwhile for Bulbapedia to easily provide an answer to, and that b) species pages should only provide moves a Pokémon can ''learn'' in the current generation? [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 14:14, 13 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:It's not hard to find what you're looking for, all you're doing is clicking on one link, totaling up to a few seconds. If you had to go through page after page, I can get why it'd be annoying or hard. But it's not.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 14:39, 13 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::I'm beginning to feel confident you're just stalling. I'm asking questions, I don't get answers. <br />
::I'll just continue trying to keep this simple: Please list all moves Pikachu can know (in a USUM game). If it's not hard, I'd be glad to hear that it's easily possible using Bulbapedia (and preferably also how). Also (and in particular if you're unable or unwilling to list all of Pikachu's moves), please answer the two questions I just asked, a) and b). [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 15:02, 13 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Bulbapedia is not a strategy guide. Comp is not our focus.<br />
:::You're highlighting comp as your reason for a promoting "moves a [species] can know" angle. But there's a bunch of comp stuff we're never going to do. We're not doing tier lists. We're not gonna tell you what "good" movesets are. Comp is no reason that we would "have" to accomodate anything.<br />
:::That's not to say we're thoroughly hostile to a list of "legacy" moves.<br />
:::But kind of like ForceFire has said, learnlists ARE for what a Pokemon can learn ''within'' a generation. It doesn't ''strictly'' make sense to include "legacy" moves; that's a concern that comes from a pretty specific focus like comp/challenges.<br />
:::Yes, it would be somewhat easier if we had a list of legacy moves. But (to repeat myself) that's not necessarily our focus and you ''can'' figure the information out if you really need to.<br />
:::(And to repeat myself once more, we're not hostile to a legacy move list. I just can't tell you if/when it might happen at the moment.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 15:39, 13 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::Thanks, Tiddlywinks.<br />
::::I may be highlighting comp as the use case, and/but I know it's not our focus, I don't do so because I want to promote comp or anything. What I'm basically trying to do is rephrase Sumwun's question of what use case species (or learnset) pages currently try to serve; basically, why are they there, what are they supposed to easily provide an answer to:<br />
::::"What move can <species> ''learn'' in <game/generation>?" may be equally sensible/important, but if the pages were focused (solely/primarily) on that, there would be no need to have an "By events" subsection (to a lesser extent, probably not even "By breeding"), and I think we can all agree that this information is valuable/sensible. What I'm thinking, and what I believe Sumwun thinks, is that a "By transfer from a prior generation" subsection is equally valuable/sensible.<br />
::::Anyway, I know how that's a hassle to create or even design, and I'm not forcing it. But I'd like to stress that Sumwun's suggestion, in my opinion, is far from focusing on some weird, minor edge case, and is providing benefit. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 16:17, 13 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::"Please list Pikachu's moves in USUM". Just go to its page. It's right ''there''. Want to know it's previous moves, go click on ''one'' link. Easy. And I'm answering sumwun's reasoning of "cross checking multiple pages is annoying", since he's the one that stated this conversation. All you're trying to do is justify sumwun's laziness.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 16:49, 13 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::Right now, I can't just click one link. Depending on how old a Pokemon is, I may need to click 1-6 links, load 1-6 learnset pages, and scan 2-25 sections. I would consider reducing this to 0 clicks and 1 section a big and worthwhile improvement. If this kind of laziness is unjustified, why do we have any learnset pages at all? We might as well be saying, "Want to know whether <Pokemon> can learn <move>? Load ''one'' move article and do ''one'' ctrl f. Easy." <br />
::::::By the way, I would also like to know the answers to Nescientist's 2 questions. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 22:05, 13 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::That's an exaggeration. If you know what you're looking for, it'll only taking you one-two clicks. You can't be searching for what move a Pokemon can learn previously without a set goal. You're playing Ultra Sun, but you want to know what it can learn in '''Diamond''' version. Diamond is the key word which equates to '''Gen IV'''. So you're already looking for its Gen IV learnset. Go to its page and click on Gen IV. Done.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 11:54, 14 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::I have moved this discussion to [[Bulbapedia talk:Project Pokédex/Structure#Adding moves available only by transfer from an earlier generation|a more public place]], so others have an easier opportunity to chime in (and so that possibly, ForceFire doesn't receive as much email notifications about messages not directed to them directly).<br />
::::::::ForceFire, the question "What moves can Pikachu know in USUM?" does not include "Diamond", and [[Pikachu (Pokémon)]] does not mention Mega Kick. I have detailed some more about what pages you'd need to traverse where I have continued the discussion I'm interested in.<br />
::::::::Tiddlywinks, I have addressed some of your comments there, and would appreciate to get to know your opinions. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 12:18, 14 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::Pikachu cannot '''learn''' Mega Kick in USUM (hence why it's not there at first glance), but it can know it if you transfer it from another game (which is common sense, of course it's going to know Mega Kick if you transfer it, the game isn't going to force it to forget the move).<br />
:::::::::I just gave an example of how it only take one-two clicks to find what you're looking for. And you misinterpreted my example. If you're thinking of a certain game, you're automatically thinking of a certain generation. Go to the page and click on that specific generation.<br />
:::::::::You can convince me to change my mind, but so far, "it's too hard, annoying, and boring to sift through a few pages" is not convincing enough to change my mind.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 12:28, 14 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::I don't understand. Please name the page(s) I need to answer "What moves can Pikachu '''''KNOW''''' in USUM?". [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 12:31, 14 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
{{indent}}When you say "know" you're saying what it can learn via other means, and that includes transfer. The pages are the previous gen learnset pages, those are the moves Pikachu can know in USUM if you were to transfer it to USUM. Honestly...--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 12:35, 14 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:And those are six, plus Pikachus page, that's seven. (I even mentioned other difficulties at the other page.) It's not easy, it's hard. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 12:37, 14 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::If you have a game in mind, you have a generation in mind. You mentioned Mega Kick, Pikachu can only learn it in Gen I, III, and VI. So you're '''ONLY''' going to click '''one''' of those link, not the other links. Why would you. You already have the generation you need, you don't need to click on the others. If someone is unsure of the generation, they would look through the move article and ctrl+f "Pikachu".<br />
::It's like if I wanted to watch a certain Johto league episode, but I don't know which number it is. I'm not going to watch the entirety of the XY series, I'm going to look through the Johto arc.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 12:44, 14 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::You're exactly right there, but you're answering "Can Pikachu know Mega Kick in USUM?", not "What moves can Pikachu know in USUM?". I have no prior knowledge that Mega Kick is a possible solution. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 12:47, 14 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::If you don't have a move in mind, then you have a previous generation in mind (to transfer from). If you have neither in mind, then you're not really looking for "what move can Pikachu know in USUM".--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 12:51, 14 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::I'm positive that I have neither in mind, and that I am looking for "what moves can Pikachu know in USUM". [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 13:22, 14 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::Then you're not transferring then. The only other viable option of wanting to know what moves Pikachu can ''know'' is events, since everything else it learns, and events are already listed. <br />
::::::If you're transferring Pokémon, you already have either a generation or move in mind. You're either thinking "I want to transfer Pikachu from <game>, but am not sure what it can learn in that game", which you then click on the '''appropriate''' generation moveset. Or you're thinking "I know Pikachu can learn <move> in a previous generation, but I don't know what game", which you then go to the move page and ctrl+f PIkachu.<br />
::::::If you're not thinking of neither of those, then you aren't looking to transfer Pokémon.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 13:46, 14 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::I'm not thinking of a specific generation. I want to know the answer to "What moves can Pikachu know in USUM".<br />
:::::::I can post some ''more special'' questions that require the same page traversion, such as "Can Pikachu know a sleep-inducing move?" (i.e., can I get a Pikachu on my copy of USUM with a sleep-inducing move, by whatever means?"), or "What is the most powerful move Magikarp may know in USUM?" (i.e., what's the maximum base power for any move a Magikarp may know in USUM, by whatever means).<br />
:::::::These should be questions you may understand better. Please try to answer them. (If you do, you will find out that you won't find the answers at the species pages alone.) [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 15:50, 14 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::If we are expected to be able to go to the move page and ctrl f the Pokemon's name for transfer-only moves, why are we not expected to do that for all moves? Why do we have full lists of level up moves and TM moves for each Pokemon? <br />
::::::::By the way, another example of a question that would become a lot easier is, "What are all the ways I can get a Golem that knows a physical attack that is strong against psychic?" [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 22:20, 14 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
{{indent}}Nescientist... what do you mean by "know"? Because a Pokémon can "know" a move via transfer or events. If you have neither a generation or move in mind, then you are '''''not''''' transferring. You are just blindly going through pages for no reason. If you're question ends so vaguely at "What moves can Pikachu know in USUM", then I don't know what you're looking for because you're not explaining the method. It's either "What can Pikachu know in USUM '''via transfer'''" or "What can Pikachu know in USUM '''via events'''". If you're talking about transfers, then I've already answered that many times.<br />
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Wanting to know what "sleep inducing moves" or "highest possible power" is competitive fluff. We are not a strategy guide. Casual gamers aren't going to care about that stuff. A casual gamer is going to want to know what moves their Pokemon can know in the game they have in their hands without outside influence (i.e. transfer or events). They're not going to care about sleep inducing move or highest based power. Not everyone is a competitive player.<br />
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Sumwun, don't be difficult. I don't even know what you're talking about. If you have a '''''move''''' in mind, go to the move page and ctrl+f. If you have a '''''game''''' in mind, go to the appropriate learnset page. You are '''''not''''' going to be looking through the learnsets to look for a single move. No one is going to do that. '''''No one''''' is going to blindly look through six learnsets looking for just one move, when they can just go to the move article itself. It's not that hard. I don't think you understand what the different kinds templates are for, and assuming they're all do the same thing.<br />
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You're Golem question, like Nescientist's "sleep inducing" question is competitive fluff. Again, we are not a strategy guide. And your question was '''even more vague'''. What is the method you seek? level up? breeding? TM? what? Be more specific in your searches. I like to think users are browsing the site fully aware of what they are looking for, not exact but an idea of what they are looking for. By the sounds of it, you're browsing the site without a single thing in mind. It stops at "What can Golem learn/know" rather than specifying "What can Golem learn/know via this specific method".--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 04:31, 15 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I already rephrased what it means when I do not specify: it means "by whatever means", which means at all, by level-up or events or transfer or ''anything'' else. Moves a Pokémon may know in USUM. I'm explicitly ''not'' saying "by transfer only" (or anything else), I don't know why you insist I need to say that; because that is not what I'm asking.<br />
:Anyway, you seem to have understood that my specific questions (and Sumwun's) are hard to answer, not easy. (Which is good, because that's why I mentioned them; my original question is ''more general''.)<br />
:I would object to your take that it's only competitive fluff (and I did so [[Bulbapedia talk:Project Pokédex/Structure#Adding moves available only by transfer from an earlier generation|here]]). What do you think casual gamers would be looking for? If you're excluding what you call "competitive fluff", do you think they would need "By breeding"? (If so, why?) [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 16:33, 15 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::If nobody goes through learnset pages for moves, what do people use them for? <br />
::Transfer-only moves are not competitive fluff or strategy guides. They are real Pokemon information that is true even when nobody is competitive battling and is not at all fan-made, but they simply happen to be more useful to competitive battlers. If this kind of information isn't allowed on Bulbapedia, why do we have a page called "World Championships", which is pretty much the definition of competitive battling? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 03:10, 16 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Nescientist: This discussion is about transfer moves, so I assume you're talking about and looking for transfer moves. If you're looking for "anything at all", then you're not looking for anything specific so the '''bare minimum''' is already on the species article, you do not need to click on anything else. Everything it can know at '''bare minimum''' is ''right there''.<br />
:::I didn't even answer both of your questions. I basically said that they are irrelevant because we are not a strategy guide. We're not going to say "This Pokemon can know this move which is X power" because that is competitive fluff and strategy guide-ish. No casual gamer is going to think that specifically.<br />
:::I just said what casual gamers are looking for "'''things their Pokemon can learn normally within the game they have in their hands, without outside influence like transfers and events'''". This includes, level up moves, TMs, and such. Breeding is game mechanic and should be listed, I don't regard it as competitive fluff.<br />
:::Sumwun: I don't think you understand how these things work. People look through the learnsets to look for moves '''''from a specific game or generation'''''. They are looking for the '''entire moveset''', not just one move. '''The entire moveset'''. If you're looking for one move, go to the move article. Looking for a moveset for a specific game, look through the learnset. It's not that hard to understand.<br />
:::"World Championships" is an article detailing an event. It's not detailing strategies. It's not detailing what moves would be better. It's not detailing which Pokemon would be better. It's just detailing the event. Again, it's like you have no idea what that article is about.<br />
:::It's real information, yes. But it can be seen by going through the moveset pages, because like I said, someone looking to transfer their Pokemon over so they can have a Pokemon with a move they can no longer learn, already have a game or move in mind. They are not blindly looking through pages.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 06:23, 16 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::Just going to put my 2 cents in here (I'm not strongly for nor against):<br />
::::1) Firstly, I think an important question that needs to be answered first is: Does a section on transfer-only moves have any role outside of the competitive field? All the examples raised at the moment have all been competitive play-oriented which I agree shouldn't be Bulbapedia's focus. I can think of one question where a transfer-only moves section ''could'' help with (e.g. "A Corsola I received from a trade has Whirlpool, Sucker Punch, and Secret Power. Is it hacked?" - although it wouldn't be too hard to find this information elsewhere + it is quite a specific question). <br />
::::2) Another point that should be discussed is that some (albeit a small number of) moves may not be obvious to some users whether they can be transferred or not - e.g. inability to transfer most HMs, ability to transfer from VC, ability to transfer certain HMs (e.g. Defog, Whirlpool)<br />
::::3) Lastly, I should note that a transfer-only moves section is likely to be longer than most will think (esp. as most of it is made up of moves which lost their TM status in a new gen) - though the length isn't as important --[[User:Wowy|<span style="color:#AAAAFF">'''Wowy'''</span>]][[User talk:Wowy|<sub style="color:#B69E00;">'''(토크)'''</sub>]] 07:01, 16 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::i don't think your example is all that great, because force fire is going to say you would just look up the move pages of each of those individual moves and ctrl f for corsola. an example i could think of which is pretty niche, but possible i think, is "im dead set on having a corsola for my playthrough of ultra sun. i want it to have the best movelist possible; im willing to transfer from prev gens to do so. is there a quick way i can get a list of all those moves without having to go through all the pages?" so imo this new section for moves learned from prev gens isnt useless; theres definitely a benefit. i think the question is, is it worth it.<br />
:::::if you ARE going through the lists of previous gens, you already know what you ARENT looking for: every move learnable from the current gen. although i dont think going through lists for new moves requires THAT much work, i dont think the work is negligible either. --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 07:47, 16 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::Yes, I completely agree with you (maybe I should have made that more clear). I was just trying to give an example of a question which would be less competitive play-oriented (because the examples already given are not), and I as I said, the information could easily be found elsewhere --[[User:Wowy|<span style="color:#AAAAFF">'''Wowy'''</span>]][[User talk:Wowy|<sub style="color:#B69E00;">'''(토크)'''</sub>]] 08:48, 16 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::I don't know how I can be any clearer, but the question is "What are moves Pikachu can know in USUM", i.e. by whatever means; it is not, I repeat, NOT something else. The species page alone does not answer it: you need that and ''all'' previous generation learnsets, at minimum. (And that's all I'm saying, basically. I believe you, ForceFire, finally understood that.)<br />
:::::::Wowy, I believe it would only be beneficial if you presented your opinion at [[Bulbapedia talk:Project Pokédex/Structure#Adding moves available only by transfer from an earlier generation|that other talk page]] (maybe even answered my question there). Anyway, I'm just gonna address your points here:<br />
:::::::1. I wouldn't know how any question about moves would not have at least some relevance to competitive play; battles and moves are a central concept of the Pokémon franchise, and anyone who plays Pokémon should have some interest in competitive play. It's a different thing to talk about serious competitive battlers (like, those who maintain tier lists and whatnot), though; and I think they wouldn't really care what the answer to my two questions are (but I could be mistaken, because again, I'm not a competitive player myself). The Swinub I mentioned at that other page was purely non-competitive in that sense, too; I used it for a playthrough. As an aside, I guess the section I propose wouldn't necessarily answer your type of "legal" question; for example, a section would include both {{m|Pay Day}} and {{m|Mimic}} for Pikachu, but a Pikachu that knows both moves simultaneously would still be illegal (I think that's similar to how the current "By breeding" section cannot answer whether two Egg Moves at the same time are legal.)<br />
:::::::2. I already said that at that other page when I explained that it is even harder to find out than I initially thought. (A "By transfer" section will ''not'' necessarily include all moves a Pokémon may have known at some earlier game (Pikachu ''can'' know {{m|Petal Dance}}, for example, but ''not'' in USUM by any means such as transfer); therefore, I also don't think Tiddlywinks' choice of the word "legacy moves" was exact for my proposal.)<br />
:::::::3. I'm not sure it will be that long, but as you said, it shouldn't really matter.<br />
:::::::Sumwun: I ''do'' understand what you're saying (and I agree), but you seem to derail the discussion with some of your more provocative questions (ForceFire never said Bulbapedia shouldn't cover anything that has anything to do with competitive play, for example). I hope that's not your intention, let's try to keep it simple. :)<br />
:::::::ForceFire, moves listed under "By breeding" are not covered by the text you bolded (and by the way, in my opinion, those are about as much "competitive fluff" as "By transfer" is), "By events" even less. I think you didn't answer whether you think casual gamers would need "By breeding"!? (Or did you? I'm still - seriously - trying to get to the bottom of what you think move sections should cover and why.) [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 16:57, 16 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::You didn't even read what I wrote, because I already answered that in my previous response. And I know it's an outright lie when you say you don't have a game or generation in mind, because the question is "What can Pikachu know in '''USUM'''". You've singled out '''USUM'''. That is that game you have in mind. And since you're not looking for anything specific, just the bare minimum (level up, TMS) and that's already on the article. All moves that Pikachu can know through '''normal gameplay (i.e. not anything specific, by any means)''' in '''USUM''' are already on the Pikachu page. The species page already has the most current (i.e. '''USUM''' or '''Gen VII''') moveset. Why are you even looking through the previous generation movesets if you're only looking for moves it can know in'''USUM'''? It's already on the species page, you don't need to click on anything else. <br />
::::::::Breeding is a game mechanic. It's as important as TMs and level up moves. The move sections should cover all moves a Pokémon can learn '''through normal gameplay''' in the most '''recent game or generation'''. Transferring isn't '''learning through normal gameplay". Sure, neither are events, but I can look past that because those are generally one time things and should be noted.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 17:39, 16 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::Nescientist didn't ask for moves that could be known "through normal gameplay". He/she/it asked for moves that could be known "by whatever means", which includes transfer as well as normal gameplay. Is this not a valid question to ask? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 18:14, 16 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::Sigh.. Going through it step by step:<br />
::::::::::# I did read your (whole) message.<br />
::::::::::# I did not lie.<br />
::::::::::# I am not looking for a bare minimum. (My question was on "moves Pikachu can know in USUM [by whatever means]".)<br />
::::::::::# What Sumwun said (and everyone, including Sumwun, should be able to see how it is a ''valid'' question to ask).<br />
::::::::::# I am looking through previous movesets because not all moves Pikachu can know in USUM are at [[Pikachu (Pokémon)]]; Mega Kick, for example, isn't. (We've been there before, I mentioned that way up above, even rephrased it repeatedly.)<br />
::::::::::# Yes, I do need to click on something else to check, i.e. all previous movesets (at minimum).<br />
::::::::::# Transfer is a game mechanic.<br />
::::::::::# In my opinion, breeding is not quite as important as TMs and level-up moves, if only because I cannot&mdash;by no means&mdash;teach (an individual) Pokémon I already own its species' Egg Moves. (It's still important, though.)<br />
::::::::::# Finally, a "definition" of what you think move sections should cover: moves Pokémon may ''learn'' through normal gameplay within the generation, plus event moves. I'll just mention that they do already cover more than that, for example how {{p|Cubchoo}} may learn Avalanche in USUM.<br />
::::::::::Beyond that, of course, I can't be of any help to you when you claim that I didn't read your message and outright lied. And, up to this point, I was trying hard. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 20:02, 17 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::::I think the problem with the "outright lie" is that transferring a Pokemon requires 2 games. Nescientist knew that the END game would be US or UM. When Nescientist said he didn't have a game "in mind", he/she/it was referring to the START game, and his/her/its willingness to transfer a Pokemon FROM any game TO US or UM. Nescientist, is this right? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 20:52, 17 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::::Yes, in your words/example, the end game would be USUM, but the start game could be anything (including USUM itself, i.e. no transfer at all). [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 16:42, 18 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::::::Should we bring this discussion to another administrator's talk page? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 17:22, 25 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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Hi there! Can you please help me with [[User talk:Mikuri#Who's stalking whose edits?|this discussion]]? I am tired of explaining to them that their obsession with having the current revision of a page is more of a hindrance than a help. Aside from the examples I offered in my talk page, you can check GrammarFreak01's latest edits to [[Marian]]'s page. That sentence they edited was perfectly fine as it was, but they changed it for no reason other than being the last person to have edited the page.<br />
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In doing so, they added misleading information because they clearly have no knowledge on the matter, first by saying that Jessie was disguised as Jessedia "at the time", creating a false impression that she disguised as Jessedia on one occasion when in fact this is a recurring disguise Jessie has changed into at least three times, and then by saying she was "briefly disguised". Assuming you don't know, Jessie has appeared as Jessedia for the duration of the entire Kanto Grand Festival and the Wallace Cup's Battle Stage, as well as in DP093 when she was interviewing Fantina.<br />
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This is not what one would call "briefly". This is not a one-time disguise that is blown off by Ash and his friends at the end of the episode. It's a recurring thing, and GrammarFreak01 is apparently unaware of that and changing a sentence that was completely okay with their nonsense just to accomplish their "goal". It's getting tired and I'm asking for help because these are instances in which I got involved, but who knows the amount of wrong information they have added to the tons of pages they edit daily.<br />
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It's frankly discouraging to edit a page only to have its content vandalized (inserting gibberish into pages counts as vandalism, right?) by someone who has no idea what they're doing and are just trying to get the most recent revision of a page. Also, judging by their latest edit to my talk page, they expect me to be some sort of wizard who can see into the future and tell them that their edit is wrong ''before'' they even make it. I don't know how to respond to that and I'm not the only user who has complained about GrammarFreak01's bad editing habits. Something needs to be done about this situation and that's why I'm asking you to intervene. Please help. --[[User:Mikuri|<span style="color:#2b915e;">'''Mi'''</span>]][[User talk: Mikuri|<span style="color:#52cc91;">'''ku'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Mikuri|<span style="color:#8debbc;">'''ri'''</span>]] 15:12, 14 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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:I am well aware of how long Jessie has been disguised as Jessedia and what she used that disguise for. [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Marian&type=revision&diff=2860143&oldid=2860142 The original sentence] in question just did not make sense to me from a grammatical standpoint. Also, for someone who constantly complains about me having a need to "have the current revision of a page", Mikuri has a nasty habit of editing articles hours and even minutes right after me, leading me to assume she is maliciously following me using my edit history. Examples of this are:<br />
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:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Maren&action=history Maren]<br />
:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Carol&action=history Carol]<br />
:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Tobias_(M02)&action=history Tobias (M02)]<br />
:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Molly_Hale&action=history Molly Hale]<br />
:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Liza_(Johto)&action=history Liza (Johto)]<br />
:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Oakley&action=history Oakley]<br />
:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Annie_(M05)&action=history Annie (M05)]<br />
:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Ross&action=history Ross]<br />
:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Butler&action=history Butler]<br />
:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Rafe&action=history Rafe]<br />
:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Jack_Walker&action=history Jack Walker]<br />
:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Lugia_(M02)&action=history Lugia (M02)]<br />
:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Entei_(M03)&action=history Entei (M03)]<br />
:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Celebi_(M04)&action=history Celebi (M04)]<br />
:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Suicune_(M04)&action=history Suicune (M04)]<br />
:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Lucario_(M08)&action=history Lucario (M08)]<br />
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:If you've noticed in the edit histories I provided, much of the articles hadn't been edited in months prior to my original edits. Then, when I make an edit, Mikuri follows after, which I find to be a complete contradiction to their complaints about my editing practices. This was also a problem back in June, when I first [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AMikuri&type=revision&diff=2809252&oldid=2808516 confronted Mikuri about it]. The articles in question were:<br />
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:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Lillie_(anime)&offset=20180628163311&action=history Lillie (anime)]<br />
:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Brock%27s_Vulpix&action=history Brock's Vulpix]<br />
:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Matori&offset=20180818063550&action=history Matori]<br />
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:At one point in our argument, I said [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AMikuri&type=revision&diff=2859786&oldid=2859767 this]. I admit that it was poorly worded due to my blinding irritation of the situation (and that I probably should've changed it once I calmed down). But what I was hoping to convey was that if Mikuri had a problem with me trying to hog the latest revision of a page, they should've tried to take it to the talk page sooner, just like what was usually done with me whenever there was a problem.<br />
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:Clearly, this is a problem that has been going on for months now and I would appreciate your mediation. I don't particularly care about any outcome anymore, so fire away. I only ask that this contradiction on Mikuri's part be addressed in some way. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 22:34, 14 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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::I started "maliciously following" GrammarFreak01's edit history '''after''' I noticed they were stalking my edits. Usually after I finished doing a major edit to a page, they would appear to unnecessarily tweak image sizes (something Tiddlywinks has warned them about) or make another one of their pointless edits. I accused them of doing that in some of my edit summaries and they decided to [[User talk:Mikuri#You're being paranoid|come to my talk page]] and call me paranoid. I could provide a laundry list of that, but I don't feel like it's needed. For one, GrammarFreak01's talk page is chock-full of messages telling them to stop with the pointless edits (and some of them were left there by you, Force Fire). In addition, I am not the only user who has complained about their edit stalking habits, as there is a [[User talk:GrammarFreak01#Edit Stalking|message left by PardescanSlowbro]] detailing the exact same behavior.<br />
::In their defense, all GrammarFreak01 had to say is that they receive email notifications after someone edits a page they have edited in the past. So what? This is no excuse to go around and make needless edits only to have the current revision of a page. And that is the main point of this discussion: GrammarFreak01's history of wholly unnecessary edits that add nothing to our pages. Correction: sometimes their edits make the page worse, as they add wrong information about a subject they know nothing about only to have the most recent revision, as was the case with [[Yuzo]]'s page. Their concern isn't quality content and accurate information, but rather an enormous amount of unverified nonsense. I honestly don't care if my revision isn't the current one and I don't have this kind of problem with any other user in this entire wiki, '''unlike GrammarFreak01'''. Several users have contributed to pages I had worked on, and you don't see me complaining about them. But GrammarFreak01 is not here to contribute, they're here to make unnecessary edits.<br />
::So yes, I can admit that I have edited several pages upon seeing one of GrammarFreak01's edits, but I guess this comes as no surprise considering the recent changes are there for everyone to see, and again, this was '''after''' I noticed they were stalking my edits and making unnecessary changes to them. And there's one notable difference: it was never to add information that was untrue about a subject I know nothing about. My point isn't that they are editing after me, but that those edits are needless. Editing a page after another user isn't a blockable offense, but inserting gibberish into pages is, as is edit flood and edit wars, behaviors also exhibited by GrammarFreak01. And I think it is worth comparing our contributions: I usually do a complete overhaul by adding verified information I gathered and uploading high quality images to the Archives, while GrammarFreak01 has a long and documented history of making pointless edits that add no real content to Bulbapedia and edit warring. --[[User:Mikuri|<span style="color:#2b915e;">'''Mi'''</span>]][[User talk: Mikuri|<span style="color:#52cc91;">'''ku'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Mikuri|<span style="color:#8debbc;">'''ri'''</span>]] 00:34, 15 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::If you read the entire discussion, you will see that [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AGrammarFreak01&type=revision&diff=2825193&oldid=2825153 I explained myself and asked PardescanSlowbro for examples] where my edits were unnecessary and clearly malicious. I was happy to address those concerns. But they did not get back to me on that. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 01:25, 15 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== False positive abuse filter triggers ==<br />
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Hello, recently I tried to move a message I misplaced on a user's talk page (see log [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Special:AbuseLog?wpSearchUser=Ozank&wpSearchTitle=&wpSearchWiki= here]) to the bottom where it should have been, but the abuse filter didn't let me. If you want to look into this, feel free. [[User:Ozank|Ozank]] ([[User talk:Ozank|talk]]) 16:43, 17 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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:He already [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:GrammarFreak01#Re:_Heads_up responded to that]. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 17:39, 17 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Yeah, I've already answered this on GrammarFreak's talk page. I think the system may have deemed moving sections (to the proper place) a drastic edit for a new user. Other than that, you should be fine once you've become a member for a period of time.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 06:20, 18 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Mimikyu's name ==<br />
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Hi there, <br />
Since you're the one who placed the warning in Mimikyu's "Name Origin", would you mind giving it a look [[Talk:Mimikyu (Pokémon)#Mimic_.2B_Q_2|here]]? Seeing that talking about it in the talk page was the recommendation, I'd like to discuss about it a little. Thanks. [[User:ExLight|ExLight]] ([[User talk:ExLight|talk]]) 01:46, 20 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Mewtwo's voice actor ==<br />
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I just watched [https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lrTmDZavVVc a video] where it was revealed that the English voice actor of the {{OBP|Mewtwo|original series|original series Mewtwo}} was actually ''not'' Philip Bartlett. That was a stage name, and the Philip Bartlett who died years ago was a completely different person, with the ''real'' English voice actor behind Mewtwo ''and'' the Philip Bartlett stage name being a man named Jay Goede. I feel like this is worth checking into. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 17:22, 20 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Dr._Fuji_(anime)&diff=2200677&oldid=2192996 Judging by this] and [[Talk:M01#Dr. Fuji's voice|this]], it's been acknowledged back in 2014.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 09:38, 22 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Ah. Okay. Sorry. Shouldn't there then be something like a tooltip on Mewtwo's page to indicate that "Philip Bartlett" is just a stage name? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 09:58, 22 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Don't think it's too much of an issue to do so.<br />
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== Troublesome user ==<br />
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Heads up. Clearly [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Special:Contributions/Cheekybutthole this user] is [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Probopass_(Pok%C3%A9mon)&diff=prev&oldid=2868297 not here to contribute]. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 03:26, 24 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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:Never mind, {{U|Abcboy}} took care of it. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 03:41, 24 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== links ==<br />
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is it all right to repeat links from an above section in a lower one. and u know that internal error that was mentioned above? im still getting it. also i couldnt help noticing ur ignoring a poor man's cry for help up above. not a very nice thing to do, wouldnt u say? :) --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 14:16, 31 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:If something has already been linked in a section, it does not need to be linked again. It's fine to have one link per section, '''only if said link isn't directly below the previous section'''. Once every few sections is fine, but not literally the next section below it.<br />
:The internal error issue is being looked into. There has been no updates yet on its progress.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 05:41, 1 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
::so lets say a link keyword is in every section. you'd want it to be linked in every other section? 1st, 3rd, 5th, etc. --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 06:10, 1 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Use common sense. Also, you don't have to link every time the word "Pokémon species", "Pokémon trainer", or whatever appears.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 06:21, 1 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
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==Voice Actors==<br />
Sent you an email with a list of voice actors from Lisa Ortiz, do I have your approval?--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 16:12, 6 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Those are fine to be added.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 05:45, 7 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Statistic ==<br />
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Why did you undo my edit to statistic? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 17:56, 9 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:You're change wasn't necessary. It was basically saying the same thing.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 03:44, 10 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
::I changed "take effect" to "start affecting turn order", which does not mean the same thing. Speed has other effects, such as determining the base power of gyro ball and electro ball, and those other effects immediately respond to changes to speed. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 04:52, 10 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::The full sentence is " will not take effect until the following turn". What you changed it to is still saying that it wont take effect until the next turn.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 05:00, 10 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::What it currently says is false because it implies that changes to speed do not start affecting the power of gyro ball and electro ball until the next turn. What I changed it to is true because it does not imply that. How can they say the same thing if one is false and the other is true? Would it be better if it said, "An in-battle change to a Pokémon's Speed stat will not start affecting turn order until the following turn, but otherwise takes effect immediately"? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 18:49, 10 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::If I might butt in here, if what Sumwun is saying is true (I've not seen any information whether it is or not), then there 'is' a difference between the two, and I think Sumwun's edit should be reinstated. Speed has effect on more things than just turn order, and some might react to changes sooner than others. --[[User:Felthry|Felthry]] ([[User talk:Felthry|talk]]) 18:00, 11 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::Why would you assume the sentence is talking about Gyro Ball or Electro Ball? It clearly isn't. It's talking about when a Pokémon's speed gets changed due to a stat change, it won't take affect until the following turn. Gyro Ball and Electro Ball are not moves that affect the user's speed, but rely on it, it's not going to get affected by a stat changing move.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 05:48, 13 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::Before commenting on the first 2 sentences of that comment, I just wanted to tell you that the last 2 sentences [https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7anythinggoes-834770797 are false]. I will admit that Showdown! is the most reliable battle simulator available to me, and I'm sorry if that's not reliable enough. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 06:51, 13 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::"Simulator", hence why it isn't reliable. You can change things with a simulator.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 07:17, 13 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::The replay was done in "Anything Goes", a standard format that does not change any battle mechanics. Do you still not trust it? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 16:38, 13 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::No.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 16:40, 13 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::::If not a Showdown! replay, what can convince you that changes in speed can take effect immediately? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 18:03, 13 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::Gyro Ball and Electro Ball both depend on the user's speed, right? So why would you expect that changes to the user's speed wouldn't affect those moves? Regardless of whether it "clearly isn't" talking about them as you personally see it, it's better to be precise than to rely on implicit statements. --[[User:Felthry|Felthry]] ([[User talk:Felthry|talk]]) 23:38, 15 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== New Devolution ==<br />
Hello Force Fire, I am a foreigner and reader on the Bulbapedia site. I only created an account in order to discuss a possible Pokémon capable of performing a Devolution, I mean Silvally (Type: Full).<br />
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Since originally this was his original form, however, he involuted to Type: Null after Faba added a helmet to his face, slowing him down. He will only be Silvally again when he destroys the helmet, that is, if it is valid I would like some moderator on the site to add this Pokémon to the article [[Devolution]]. [[User:NanayaShiki07|NanayaShiki07]] ([[User talk:NanayaShiki07|talk]]) 20:07, 10 November 2018 (~)<br />
:Games=/=anime. I personally don't think it counts as anything. I also don't really care, mainly because the whole story behind Silvally and Type: Null, and how the latter is just the former with a helmet. It just unnecessarily makes things confusing and messes the whole concept of evolution in the franchise. So I don't have any strong opinions about this.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 05:48, 13 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== N as a rival ==<br />
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Don't put a message that says "Please do not add N, as he is not a rival" on the page, If you have an argument against it then put it in the talk page! [[User:Nightfall217|Nightfall217]] ([[User talk:Nightfall217|talk]]) 23:48, 12 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:As an administrator I ''can'' place a hidden message telling users what not to do until a consensus has been made.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 05:48, 13 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Leaf Discussion Page == <br />
I noticed you left a note on my userpage telling me not to delete other people's comments. I want to assure you that I have not done so, and in fact had my comments removed twice by other people when they re-formatted the page. --[[User:LavaringX|LavaringX]] ([[User talk:LavaringX|talk]]) 07:16, 18 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Spaceworld Mainspace ==<br />
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Hello, I was wondering if we could start slowly mainspacing some Pokémon Gold and Silver beta information, as the leaked Spaceworld ROM has been around for nearly a half a year now. A lot of the interest for adding this information onto the site has slowed down, and I thought that perhaps if only a little bit of information was added, like, for example, [[User:Celadonkey/Spaceworld/Dex|a list of Pokémon]], [[User:Celadonkey/Spaceworld#Chikorita_.28Pok.C3.A9mon.29.2FBeta|one or two Pokémon articles]], or [[User:Frozen Fennec/Pokémon Gold and Silver Spaceworld Demo|some information on the gameplay]], then maybe it would spur interest and additions to the wiki. --[[User:Celadonkey|Celadonkey]] 16:39, 18 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Spaceworld stuff shouldn't be the priority right now, clearly. The staff still hasn't decided on how to handle this. Please don't think you can just move them without permission.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 16:57, 18 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
::I wasn't going to move it without permission, that's why I asked you. And alright. Please let me know when staff has reached a decision because this is something I am very interested in helping out with --[[User:Celadonkey|Celadonkey]] 17:02, 18 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== I want to turn a redirect into an article for something else, but I don't have the writing skills. ==<br />
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I asked Chosen 5 days ago, but he never responded. I asked Glik earlier today, but unfortunately he doesn't play the game and couldn't help.<br />
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Anyway, there's a substance called R in the game Detective Pikachu, and it's a big part of the game's story. When I went to search its article, it redirects me to the Trainer Tower instead. I am definitely not able to write the article myself (I sucked at Language Arts), but I also don't want to leave the page as this redirect. What can I do? [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 01:24, 20 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Write a stub or incomplete article? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 02:33, 20 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
::You already created a userpage it seems. You can invite others to help flesh out the article. Sadly, I've never played Detective Pikachu, so I wouldn't know much.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 05:58, 20 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Well I did ask Abcboy, as he added the plot into the game's article. Hopefully he responds. *checks edit history* Maybe I'll ask GrammarFreak01 too. Thanks for the advice. [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 16:29, 20 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== [[Sea Cottage]] and [[Trophy Garden]] ==<br />
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Hi there. You recently removed information relating to the Bill's Secret Garden rumour without engaging in discussion first, as I had explicitly requested on the talk pages for those articles. I have provided four different articles regarding Bill's Secret Garden and it's mentioned on numerous fansites, so I'm not sure what further evidence you require. It's an extremely notorious rumour. --[[User:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] [[User talk:Poppy Appletree|:3]] 13:43, 20 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I was in the midst of responding on those talk pages whilst you wrote this.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 13:54, 20 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:: Commenting 20 minutes ''after'' the removals isn't exactly a discussion. --[[User:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] [[User talk:Poppy Appletree|:3]] 13:57, 20 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
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Now that you have hopefully had some time to cool off, can I get you to re-appraise your behaviour? Condescending comments like "learn some patience" and referring to seeking a second opinion as "spamming" staff members do not convey respect to others, and I would appreciate it if you would apologise for these comments. Additionally, I would appreciate if you would acknowledge wrong-doing in burying the list of discussion materials I provided to show the scope of the Secret Garden rumour. Whilst you claim that you were trying to figure out how to add a collapsible section, I am genuinely unsure how I would be expected to intent for something you would not do for another hour. I'd like to encourage you to be more transparent: throughout our interactions yesterday you have seemed to think that I should know what you are doing when you provided no explanation for your actions. <br />
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I'd also like you to acknowledge that jumped the gun in issuing a warning, since you started reverting pages without offering discussion, and I have been actively trying to discuss the issues raised and establish consensus with other users. (For the record, your lone opinion isn't a consensus.) Please consider the effect that such actions will have upon others; if you disregard the views of regular users, that will have a chilling effect upon editing activity. Nobody wants to have their edits reverted immediately and then be insulted by admins, and treating people that way puts them off editing.<br />
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For the record, this isn't the first time you've been insulting towards me: [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:Force_Fire/Archive_3#Reversion_of_my_edit] That was a long time ago, but it's kind of telling that you didn't actually apologise. Perhaps we can try a different resolution this time, where you apologise for your behaviour? --[[user:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] 11:34, 21 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
: I actually just looked through the edit chain associated with that post, and it's interesting how similar your behaviour is to that of 8 years ago: edit warring whilst insisting your opinion is correct without engaging with others who are telling you that you're wrong. It would probably be a good idea to learn to be more open to the views of others, and apologise more readily when you step on people's toes. Without resolution, bruised feelings fester into resentment, which can result in long-standing feuds. It's so much easier to just apologise and let things drop. --[[user:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] 11:39, 21 November 2018 (UTC)</div>
Poppy Appletree
https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Force_Fire/Archive_9&diff=2884128
User talk:Force Fire/Archive 9
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<p>Poppy Appletree: /* Sea Cottage and Trophy Garden */</p>
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== Subpages of a userpage ==<br />
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Hello, I noticed you warning people about their userpages, so I thought you'd be the right person to ask this. The thing is, I would like to create a subpage listing my in-game teams using the standard team template, since I want there to be more things related to Pokémon and me on my page. I wanted to ask whether or not it is allowed at all and what I should keep in mind besides not editing excessively. Thank you! [[User:Kikugi|Kikugi]] ([[User talk:Kikugi|talk]]) 10:16, 9 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Making subpages for that is fine, the rules for subpages is the same as a normal userpage. An edit to your subpage also counts to the "three userspace edits per day" rule.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 10:28, 9 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Another offensive username ==<br />
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Puta is a really rude word in Spanish(I think the account maker failed to use proper alts, but their intent is clear...is this worth your time for an unacceptable username?--[[User:BlisseyandtheAquaJets|BlisseyandtheAquaJets]] ([[User talk:BlisseyandtheAquaJets|talk]]) 17:16, 9 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== "Not everything is a pun" ==<br />
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...I never said everything is, but SM is known for them and "ワル" is not a Japanese word, but "warui" (悪い) is! And since it's spelled as "ワル" and "Warubiaru" (ワルビアル) is in the episode it makes sense it's a pun. I have no idea what your problem is and I don't care, but I've already explained why it's a pun. "ワル" isn't used as "bad" in katakana, but words are used in different characters when they're a joke. Like the episode with Dhelmise with "Ikari" (anger) being used as "いかり" as "anchor" but the same spelling "Ikari" also can be used to mean "怒り" (anger). [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]]) 19:31, 12 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Please respond and change it back because it's not spelled the right way, meaning it is a pun. I don't care what your problem is, but not correctly addressing a pun in a title that clearly has one just makes Bulbapedia look stupid. I've been obvious why it's a pun. Why can episode titles like SM071, SM065, and SM040 be acknowledged but not this? [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]]) 14:54, 13 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Just because "waru" is written in katakana, doesn't mean it no longer means "悪" or has a different meaning. "ワル" is still "悪", it's not some nonsensical word. And yes, "悪" can be used by itself. As for the title, "waru" could also be referring to Nanu, considering his attire and the fact the title includes "oyaji" (since it's "...waru oyaji wa...").<br />
::As for the other episodes, they're fine. Ikari can mean either Anchor and Anger, like you said, so that's a pun. "Mairimasu" ''is'' pure nonsense and could only be a pun. "Pan-paka-pan" is a trumpet fanfare with just happens to include the word "pan", and the episode was about bread.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 15:20, 13 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::The idea that not translating a pun is bad needs to be addressed.<br />
:::Translating puns is HARD.<br />
:::It is ''not'' always worth wracking your brain over or compensating for otherwise. And it's not even necessarily worth forcing something. Not translating a pun does not make Bulbapedia look stupid... [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 15:37, 13 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Surge/Terrain confusion ==<br />
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There's confusion going on in the anime whether the [[Tapu]] are activating their signature abilities or using the Terrain moves. This issue has been resolved with {{DL|Recurring wild Pokémon in the anime|Tapu Koko}}, but people are still mixing up {{DL|Recurring wild Pokémon in the anime|Tapu Lele}} and {{DL|Recurring wild Pokémon in the anime|Tapu Bulu}}'s Abilities with their Terrain moves. When Tapu Lele and Tapu Bulu activated their Abilities {{a|Psychic Surge}} and {{a|Grassy Surge}} respectively, users are assuming that they are using the attacks {{m|Psychic Terrain}} and {{m|Grassy Terrain}} instead. That is not the case. In ''[[SM037|Rising from the Ruins!]]'' and [[SM075]], when Tapu Lele and Tapu Bulu enter battle with Rockruff and {{AP|Lycanroc}} respectively, their Surge Abilities go off at the start of their battles. This happened with Tapu Koko as well when it battled {{AP|Pikachu}} in ''[[SM002|The Guardian's Challenge!]]'' and ''[[SM019|A Guardian Rematch!]]''. The Terrain moves can go off during any point of the battle, however the Surge Abilities can only activate when the Pokémon enter the field. Another point to show that it's their abilities activating in those episodes and not their attacks is in ''[[SM052|Revealing the Stuff of Legend!]]'' where all four Tapu used the four Terrain moves to show {{Ash}} and {{ashfr|the gang}} [[Nebby#In_the_anime|Nebby]]'s backstory. Even the anime makes mistakes as shown in SM075 where [[Acerola]] and {{Rotom}} misidentify Tapu Bulu's Grassy Surge as Grassy Terrain. --[[User:PKMNAdventurer|PKMNAdventurer]] ([[User talk:PKMNAdventurer|talk]]) 21:32, 18 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I've removed them and added a hidden notice. Abilities and moves need to be explicitly said, especially those that would potentially have the same exact animation.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 03:11, 19 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Ok, looks like Psychic Terrain was confirmed via dub captions (which is fine, until/unless the Japanese version says that it's something else later on). Grassy Terrain was said, which you've noted. Is it an error? We don't know. But for now, it is not an error unless they contradict themselves and call it Grassy Surge later on. At the end of the day, the is no confusion. Assuming moves is something you shouldn't be doing. If it is said or revealed in close caption, then that's final.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 12:08, 19 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Ok. I wanted to make sure if the move used was either the Terrain Move or the Surge Ability. Thank you for clearing it up. --[[User:PKMNAdventurer|PKMNAdventurer]] ([[User talk:PKMNAdventurer|talk]]) 20:48, 19 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Requests ==<br />
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If you would be so kind, could you please hear me out and consider doing a couple things I can't do (at least without permission, in some cases):<br />
* Template {{template|Trainerentry}} has several handy redirects for Trainer classes that have changed their names over the years, such as "Cooltrainer" to "Ace Trainer" and "Rocket" to "Team Rocket Grunt". However, there are several Trainer class name changes that have either been missed or happened after the template was last edited, like "Rocket Grunt"{{tt|*|From Generation II}} to "Team Rocket Grunt", "Pokéfan" to "Poké Fan", "Swimmer ♂/♀" to "Swimmer", and "Clerk ♂/♀" to "Office Worker". There may be others than these, but anyway, my point is, could you please add the missing redirects to the template in the same way as the already existing redirects?<br />
* Back in January, I suggested that the [[Pokémon League (Alola)/Title Defense]] page should be split into separate SM and USUM Title Defense pages. I've already got the USUM section ready right [[User:FinnishPokéFan92/Pokémon League (Alola)/Title Defense/Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon|here]] under my own userspace in case the idea gets approved. Do you think the page should be split?<br />
* Ummm... I recall having a third request, but it doesn't come to my mind right now. I'll come back if I can remember it.<br />
:--[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 12:59, 20 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
::I've added the examples you've provided. If there are any more, do let me know.<br />
::I've forwarded the article with the other staff members.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 08:16, 21 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Thank you for hearing me out. And indeed, I've discovered a few more redirect links that should be fixed: "Officer" and "Policeman" to "Police Officer", "Interviewer" to "Interviewers", "Socialite" to "Madame", and "School Kid" to "Schoolkid". Also, a couple of other things related to this subject:<br />
::::In Generation II, the "Swimmer" class was classified as "Swimmer♂/♀", as in without a space, while in Generation VI, it's "Swimmer ♂/♀", as in ''with'' a space. The latter redirect is yet to be fixed.<br />
::::In Generation II, the Trainer class that would later be known as "Schoolkid" was called "Schoolboy", hence why "Schoolboy" redirects to "Schoolkid" (or rather "School Kid", a redirect link). And then, in Generation VI, we were introduced to the separate "Schoolboy" Trainer class. As such, the Schoolboy links from Generation VI now lead to an incorrect article (similar to the "Medium" link from [[Saffron Gym]]'s page, actually, due to the Channeler class's renaming in Stadium, but that's a much more minor subject). I know this may be an impossible or at least a difficult problem to solve properly, but I decided to bring it up nevertheless, just in case.<br />
:::The request I forgot about yesterday is actually a pretty old one: back in 2013, I made a suggestion to change the {{template|Gym Leaders of Unova}} to better separate the BW and B2W2 Gym Leaders from each other, but my edit (which you can see [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Template:Gym_Leaders_of_Unova&oldid=1865505 here]) was undone, because I hadn't talked about it beforehand. Since then, I've forgotten, remembered, and re-forgotten this multiple times, but now I've finally managed to make myself bring this long-forgotten topic up again. Could the template be edited in this or at least in a similar kind of way, or do you feel it's good enough as it is?<br />
:::Also, I've also come up with a couple new things I'd want to propose since yesterday: could "Tide Song Hotel" and "Kantonian Gym" receive their own articles? I've already asked people's opinions about these ideas on [[Heahea City]] and [[Malie City]]'s talk pages, and at least the Tide Song Hotel split seems to have gotten some support already. Could you take these splits into consideration as well? Thank you.<br />
:::--[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 10:04, 21 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::Oh, and while I'm at it, I also found one Orre Trainer class redirect to fix: "Fun Old Lady" to "Matron". --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 12:35, 21 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::Ah, didn't see the subtle difference with the Swimmer trainer class. I've added the other TCs.<br />
:::::I think the Unova Gym Leader Template is fine the way it is. Repeating the same Gym Leaders is pretty unnecessary, while I do get why, the template is about who are the Gym Leaders, separating by game isn't necessary. Plus, the three newer Gym Leaders being at the bottom of the first eight already implies that they were added later on.<br />
:::::I've forwarded those suggestions to the other admins as well.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 05:11, 24 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::I actually just saw you making that edit. Thanks a lot.<br />
::::::I understand. It's fine. I won't raise that topic again.<br />
::::::Thanks once again. I'll be waiting for the results. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:36, 24 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::Sorry to bother you again, but I've found a couple more links to fix, mainly from the Orre games:<br />
::::::::Let's get the simpler ones out of the way first: "Researcher" and "Cipher R&D" to "Scientist".<br />
::::::::Now, for something I'm not so sure of: the Orre-exclusive classes "Rogue" "Kaminko Aide", and "Robo Groudon" are Trainer classes used by only one person each, and they also only appear as redirect links on one page each. Hence why I'm not sure if these redirects should be removed or not. What do you think?<br />
::::::::And finally, something a bit different, but still involving the same template. A big number of Fighting-type Trainers in FireRed and LeafGreen have their Pokémon holding Black Belts. However, the template links the "Black Belt" held item to "Type-enhancing item#Black Belt". This was understandable before, but now "Black Belt (item)" has its own article. Could you change the link to go to the item's own page now?<br />
:::::::Thank you. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 06:59, 25 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::Done. As for the three single trainer trainer classes, I think they're fine, due to the way the template works (the second parameter is under a TC template, so their has to be a [name] (Trainer class) link.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 03:29, 26 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::Thank you once again. However, when I looked at your edits, I also happened to notice that, similar to the Black Belt link you fixed, the held item link for "Metronome" leads to "In-battle effect item#Metronome". I can understand that you didn't notice that during your edit, so I'm not blaming you of anything, but could you be so kind and fix that one, too? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:25, 26 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::Whoopsie! Every time I think I'm done with this issue, I notice something new. The redirect link of "Poké'''F'''an" to "Poké Fan" has been fixed, but it's formatted as "Poké'''f'''an" on every pre-Generation VI page (as well as on the "Poké Fan (Trainer class)" article), and ''that'' redirect link still remains to be fixed. Could you do this one more thing? I'm sorry if you feel bothered by this. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 12:40, 27 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::::(deep sigh) One. More. Once again I've noticed something. In Generation II, some Poké Fans had their Pokémon holding Berries, as in "Berry (item)", but link just goes to "Berry". Could that be fixed? PS. I also have other stuff to talk about with you, but I'll probably start a new section for that purpose later. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 08:04, 2 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Force preview question ==<br />
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I've heard about the force preview group, where you have to preview your edits before publishing them. And I thought it might help me slow down and evaluate if my edits are actually helpful, since I have a tendency to act impulsively. Is it possible to ask to be put in that group? I was just curious. [[User:Veralann|<span style="color:#ffa900;">'''Incentive'''</span><span style="color:#00c7ff">''' (a.k.a. Veralann)'''</span>]] 02:49, 21 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== PokeShay ==<br />
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I think it was a little harsh to block him for that. You could've just asked about it on his talk page. --[[User:Raltseye|<span style="color:#FF6464">R</span><span style="color:#11BB11">alts</span><span style="color:#6464FF">eye</span>]] [[User talk:Raltseye|prata med mej]] 16:03, 24 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== "Pokémon seen" lists for movie locations ==<br />
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I wasn't too sure who to ask about this, though I have noticed that some movie-based locations have got the "Pokémon seen" lists and others don't. What is the requirement for these types of pages?. E.g. The Lake of Life has an incomplete list whilst Forina and the Tree of Beginning do not have any list, instead the Pokémon are just listed in the description section. <br />
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Also who is the authority on uploading images to the archives? I have a few images in mind that are needed to complete other pages like the Pokémon mate page. <br />
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Thanks. [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 09:55, 28 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Locations where Pokémon actually live there have the Pokémon list. Though I'm not too sure if it's needed, as most are just wild Pokémon. Maybe if they play a large role in the area, such as the titans in Tree of Beginning, then they can be listed. Otherwise, it's unnecessary. As for the archives, you have to create an account at the archives and wait to be autoconfirmed there (the requirements are the same as it is on the wiki).--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 02:43, 29 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
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::Thank you for the information. [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 09:36, 29 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Unaccpetable username ==<br />
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[[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Special:Contributions/Son_of_a_gun]] {{unsigned|RubyLeafGreenCrystal}}<br />
:No it's not.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 02:43, 29 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Bulbapedia lagging ==<br />
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Not really sure if this is the appropriate place to ask, but is the site undergoing updates or something? Loading for this site is lagging for me. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 20:45, 29 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
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:Never mind. The issue seems to have resolved itself. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 21:48, 29 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Could I have my userspace privileges back? ==<br />
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It's been like 6 years and I mostly just wanna delete it lmao --[[User:Pokelova|Pokelova]] ([[User talk:Pokelova|talk]]) 12:17, 31 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Done.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 14:18, 31 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Edgreen293 ==<br />
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{{user|Edgreen293}} is at it again ([https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Chopper&diff=prev&oldid=2803690] [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Janet&diff=prev&oldid=2803692] [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Damian&diff=prev&oldid=2803693]). [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 22:29, 5 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
: I might also add {{user|Tygamer64}} since both GrammarFreak01 and I were discussing him on his talk page. Since he has made rather pointless edits and we were told to report these cases. '''Ice''' [[User talk:The IceCream|Cream]] 15:25, 6 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== RE: Episode links ==<br />
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The links I added are from a licensed Pokémon copyright holder, so there is no copyright issue here. They are all legal.--[[User:Magicknight94|Magicknight94]] ([[User talk:Magicknight94|talk]]) 09:31, 6 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Did you read my reply?--[[User:Magicknight94|Magicknight94]] ([[User talk:Magicknight94|talk]]) 14:52, 7 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
::You still can't link to full episodes or episode clips, regardless of whether it comes from an official source or not.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 04:35, 8 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Why not? If copyright is not the issue here, what is the problem? Can you explain? --[[User:Magicknight94|Magicknight94]] ([[User talk:Magicknight94|talk]]) 07:33, 8 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Hello?--[[User:Magicknight94|Magicknight94]] ([[User talk:Magicknight94|talk]]) 05:22, 11 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::Be patient. Force Fire is probably busy. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 05:31, 11 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::The issue '''is''' copyright. We choose not to link to episodes available on streaming sites, regardless of it being from an official source or not, just to be on the safe side. Also, the link you provided was for the Vietnamese dub, which I don't think anyone visiting an ''English'' wiki would be interested in.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 05:14, 12 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Pokemon 4ever working title? ==<br />
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https://www.serebii.net/archive/September-2000.shtml Scrolling down that page a bit shows a 7-frame promo for a project simply called ''Pokémon 2001'' and one of the frames shows a Celebi, no plans to currently add anything about it to the Pokémon 4ever page but I was wondering what your thoughts were on this. ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|<span style="color:teal">Frozen</span>]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|<span style="color:green">Fennec</span>]]'' 14:05, 13 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Do you have another source for that other than Serebii? Serebii is not a credible source, as it's a fansite.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 13:10, 14 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Nope, just randomly came across that and given how old the page was, got a little curious. Tried to reverse image search the frames but could not find anything at all. ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|<span style="color:teal">Frozen</span>]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|<span style="color:green">Fennec</span>]]'' 13:12, 14 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Not sure if I can post this video, but here's video proof. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Od-eFQhVRI [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]]) 13:56, 14 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::Oh wow, did not know there was still video footage, I just thought it was those seven screenshots. Wonder if this would be worth adding to the Pokémon 4ever section as trivia. ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|<span style="color:teal">Frozen</span>]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|<span style="color:green">Fennec</span>]]'' 14:01, 14 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== PardescanSlowbro ==<br />
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I'm having a really big problem with {{user|PardescanSlowbro}} right now. I once sent him [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2768197&oldid=2766807 this message] in response to his editing style, and [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2768426&oldid=2768197 he took it pretty personally] (even though I was also [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AGrammarFreak01&type=revision&diff=2768465&oldid=2766949 in the wrong here]). Since then, the user has made edits to a variety of articles, and I've commonly had to edit them to rectify errors that he made. For example, [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=EP045&type=revision&diff=2809520&oldid=2806418 he very recently edited] the plot summary of [[EP045]] and [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=EP045&diff=next&oldid=2809520 this] was what I did to improve it (note that I also did some unrelated changes at the same time).<br />
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[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2801230&oldid=2801220 I once tried] to inform him of some of the kinds of errors he kept making in his edits, like [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AGrammarFreak01&type=revision&diff=2768465&oldid=2766949 you suggested], but [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2801256&oldid=2801230 this] was his response. He also said [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2801220&oldid=2801168 this beforehand]. [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2801258&oldid=2801256 I tried] to be rational and explain myself this time, but the conversation did not move forward anymore, so I gave up trying to reason with him and just resorted to editing at his heels whenever I saw an error. He eventually [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2809534&oldid=2809278 got agitated] by this. [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2809538&oldid=2809534 I tried] asking for specifics about his complaints of me, but [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2809541&oldid=2809538 he claimed I already knew what I was doing] (I legitimately do not). After I [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2809547&oldid=2809541 responded a couple of times], he went on [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2809557&oldid=2809547 a tirade] against me.<br />
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If any, if not all of his grievances towards me are legitimate, then I do apologize immensely. But I sincerely believe I've been trying to be helpful and he just rebuffs it. Either way, could you please step in? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 07:39, 17 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
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:He also had [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2809565&oldid=2809561 this] to say recently. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 07:44, 17 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
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::{{user|Tiddlywinks}} has [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:PardescanSlowbro&diff=0&oldid=2809568 pitched in]. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 19:25, 17 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Harassment Procedure ==<br />
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Dear ForceFire,<br />
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I have felt personally vindicated and harassed by the user GrammarFreak01 on a continuous basis. I have pleaded to be left alone by the user and made them clearly aware of my feelings on their conduct towards myself. I was never under the assumption that any of my edits were to be untouched, though found the user in question deliberately followed and made, in some cases minor and pointless changes to over 40 pages (Episode 1 to 46 and some associated anime pages) directly after I did over recent days. The pages in question, at least the plot sections required some detail corrections but until my additions had not been looked at for several years. I had earlier requested significant action be taken against the user on Tiddlywinks page after an earlier spate of unexplained deletions to additions which were quickly reinstated by Tiddlywinks. Nothing came of this request on Tiddlywinks page, and the behaviour has persisted and worsened into vitriol that centres on GrammarFreak01's belief I referred to them as racist, though nothing of the sorts has occurred. I can no longer handle the barrage of blatancy and continuous harassment written on my discussion page by GrammarFreak01, and wish for those actions to end. At all times I have maintained my distance, and have thanked the user for their efforts when they have worked in collaboration with myself. Though their commentary and vicious attacks on my supposed sensitivities and linguistics must end. I have let things slide, despite my discontent, as to avoid further escalation. The user has been told to maintain their distance and respect previously written advices to improve their conduct, though such warnings remain unheeded and their pattern of behaviour towards me continues to intensify. I am completely naïve when it comes to Bulbapedia's bullying procedures, though require strong action be taken to ensure the harassment, belittlement and bullying that I have been exposed to by user GrammarFreak01 does not ever repeat.<br />
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I look forward to your reply, though will maintain my reserve and distance nonetheless,<br />
[[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 12:04, 17 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
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: Seeing as I have been the only one to receive any commentary it is best I be moved on. My claims have been outright ignored and also denied, despite the sheer amount of evidence to say otherwise. At the very least the user in question should have been told to remain at a distance, though has immediately gone on the attack again; though of course I am making everything up and overreacting as you pointed out. As such, please delete my account, this forum is no longer suitable to myself, my temperament or my skills. Thanks.[[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 13:44, 18 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Move trivia ==<br />
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How do I know if trivia about moves is notable? The stuff I add sometimes gets undone even if it's unique to that move. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 17:54, 18 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Depends on what the trivia is.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 05:34, 19 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
::I guess a recent example would be my attempt to add a trivium to thunder wave. It said that thunder wave is currently the only status move whose effectiveness depends on the type chart, so that ground Pokemon were immune because it was electric type and not because it was programmed separately. I thought it was unique and notable, but it was taken down. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 17:57, 19 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Erica124 yet again ==<br />
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{{user|Erica124}} has once again shown [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Walking_Pok%C3%A9mon&type=revision&diff=2810509&oldid=2808316 her inability] to use her force preview, despite [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AErica124&type=revision&diff=2808504&oldid=2771952 my earlier warning]. Maybe it's time to let her go? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 04:24, 19 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Perma-blocking her is for the staff to decide, not you. You also need to calm down when approaching "problem" users, yes their continuous wrongdoings can be frustrating, by try to keep a level head when dealing with them. As for blocking, it's not excessive. Can't do much if it's a once in a while thing.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 05:34, 19 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Oh, I thought you were part of staff? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 06:56, 19 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Also, just so you know, it's not a once-in-a-while thing. Erica124 made [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Walking_Pok%C3%A9mon&type=revision&diff=2756991&oldid=2756735 the same exact error] on the same article before, and [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AErica124&type=revision&diff=2808504&oldid=2771952 I did warn her about it once]. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 06:59, 19 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::I am. A perma block is something that needs to be discussed with other staff members first, not just immediately executed, unless the user we're dealing with is a vandal. <br />
::::Yes, but her recent spate of unpreviewed edits aren't happening as frequently as it did back in March. She's not editing daily. She only didn't use the preview button on one article today. The last one before today was June 15th, four days ago. And the one before that was last month. Compare it to March where it was almost daily. --[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 07:25, 19 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::Oh, okay. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 07:51, 19 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Reply ==<br />
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Anything to say on my page? [[User:RubyLeafGreenCrystal|RubyLeafGreenCrystal]] ([[User talk:RubyLeafGreenCrystal|talk]]) 06:39, 26 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Quick query==<br />
This is present in the trivia section on the Slowbro page:<br />
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*Slowbro's Pokédex entries state that if the Shellder is removed, it will revert to its Slowpoke form. <br />
**This is the only mentioning of a Pokémon possibly devolving anywhere in the Pokémon games, aside from a card in the game versions of the TCG.<br />
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The first part is fine, the second point is incorrect as Exeggutor can also revert. Should the second point be deleted entirely as it both untrue and not unique or altered to include a connection with Exeggutor<br />
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e.g Slowbro and Exeggutor are the only recorded cases of Pokémon capable of devolution [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 12:43, 28 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
:The second point may be removed as it is not unique to one Pokémon.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 13:19, 28 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
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:: No worries, thank you.[[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 13:40, 28 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Poké Problem characters list ==<br />
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OK, so my recent edit of [[SM080]] was taken down by you on the basis that, since the Pokémon I put on the appearance list appeared exclusively in the episode's Poké Problem, it doesn't deserve a mention (since Poké Problems are part of the episode apparently). I've also noticed that some edits on [[SM079]] also got erased on the same reason. Yet previous episodes' character lists feature characters that only appeared in the episodes' Poké Problem segments (for example Brock & Misty's siblings in [[SM042]]'s case and Harper and Sarah for [[SM071]]). As such, I have to wonder why its sometimes okay for characters and Pokémon that appeared exclusively in the Poké Problem of an episode to be mentioned on the character lists of said episode, but other times it's not OK? [[User:Pulsaro23|Pulsaro23]] ([[User talk:Pulsaro23|talk]]) 17:03, 29 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Then those need to removed from their episodes and any other episodes that list PokéProblem appearances needs to be fixed. PokéProblem is a segment similar to Who's That Pokémon, it is not part of the actual episode.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 13:57, 30 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
::While I'll agree that the Poké Problem and Who's that Pokémon segments share a similarity (the fact that they are tied to a situation/Pokémon from the episode), they are also very different. By that I mean that, while the WtP segment doesn't have any impact on the overall story of the episode, the bonus scenes shown after the Poké Problem segments expand upon the story of the episode (personally, I'd say they're very similar to the after-credits scenes form the Marvel & DC movies). For example, the Poké Problem segments for SM022 and SM057 feature scenes that resolve the episodes' ending cliffhangers, while others, like the ones for SM042 and SM030, flesh out more of the characters' personality and traits, as well as showing their relationships with other characters. As such, I'd say that, while Poké Problem segments are really part of the main episode, they still have some degree of importance, since the scenes shown at the end of those segments expand upon the main theme/story/characters of the episode (and as such, they should, as you say, "count"). Plus, in the case of the XY series, characters that appeared exclusively in its Poké TV segments were mentioned on the appearance list for its episodes (e.g. XY096, XY099, XY106 etc.). So why should the Poké TV segments receive special treatment and the Poké Problem ones not? [[User:Pulsaro23|Pulsaro23]] ([[User talk:Pulsaro23|talk]]) 14:37, 30 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Usage of the word "native" ==<br />
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{{user|PardescanSlowbro}} is [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Raichu_%28Pok%C3%A9mon%29&type=revision&diff=2813914&oldid=2812285 concerned] about using the word "native" to describe the residents of [[Alola]] in the {{p|Raichu}} article, due to its connection to indigenous peoples who have been plagued with stereotypes and also its purported implicit nature as a development discourse, thus making it potentially offensive to some people. I did not see anything wrong with the word's usage, however, since it can alternatively be used as a synonym for "resident" or "citizen", as I [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2813930&oldid=2813886 pointed out to him]. He's still concerned and has [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:PardescanSlowbro&diff=next&oldid=2813930 pointed out] that official literature no longer uses the word, seemingly making it taboo, even though I have still heard it being used in the context I just described.<br />
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Do you think it is appropriate to use "native" in any shape or form here? I'm not aware of any other articles here that use the word. I do acknowledge the potential issue of indigenous peoples being offended, but I don't think anyone will be offended given the word's context in the Raichu article. What do you think? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 06:12, 30 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
:It's fine to use the word "native". No need to think that someone will get offended by the word.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 09:44, 30 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
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:: You failed to acknowledge my concerns, and reverted my re-edit after GrammarFreak01 again deleted it. The latest addition aided the sentence in making it more concise, and as stated, the phrase 'the natives' is not used by the Pokémon Company in any of it literature, and probably for good measure. The term 'native' to mean local makes sense though should only be applied to describe an area or plant such as on the Vileplume page under the biology section. I would like another opinion as you have allowed a good edit to be reverted[[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 05:52, 1 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::It's very clear you changed the sentence because of your dislike of the word "native", whether it was a good change or not. You made the change because there was a word you didn't like. That's why it got reverted. There's is nothing wrong with using the word. The Pokémon Company not using it doesn't mean we can't use the word. You're thinking too much into the negative connotation of the word.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 06:00, 1 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::: Negative connotations is your justification? I saw the term and looked at it as an opportunity to make a positive change in line with one of Bulbapedia's major aims, inclusivity. Allowing the phrase 'the natives' is an issue as it is loaded language and may be used on other pages in much the same way. But correcting the term to something more global and neutral has become the issue, leaving aside the issues associated with using this turn of phrase in the first place, even though the original editor of course had no intention of being racist or degrading to particular demographics. By actually allowing this term to pass through with your acceptance, you are also condoning the use of this term in much the same way across potentially other articles and it may enter people's own thoughts on people of different backgrounds. Inclusivity was my motivation because of the so-called negative and very true reality for many individuals on this planet, that terms like this are harmful. I cannot imagine the editor's guide has any detail on this specific turn of phrase, though it would diffidently be designed to uphold inclusivity of all peoples.[[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 06:23, 1 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::You just admitted that the editor that added the word had no intention of being racist or degrading, if you already think that then it shouldn't be an issue. It's not offensive unless someone makes it offensive. The sentence is in no way written in an offensive manner, and no one will take it as an insult. You're looking to much into it.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 06:57, 1 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::I'm afraid you are wrong when it comes to the development discourse, it is an issue incidental or not. I am going to contact someone higher up to alert them to my concerns about the phrase, not word, "the natives", as you have plainly ignored the fact that such terminology is typically avoided due to taboo and discrimination surrounding it. Thanks [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 07:06, 1 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::When used correctly, "native" can also be "global and neutral". The only way it can be considered "loaded language" is if the person writing it in question ''makes'' it loaded language. I understand the history behind the word, and I also understand that the current political climate makes usage of certain words even more dangerous, but if the word has alternate meanings that are more acceptable, then I don't see why we must avoid using it, no matter how incidental the racism. If you have a problem with it, take it up with Merriam-Webster, not the admins here. If someone else does have a problem with it, we'll talk it out, see where it goes. But in the meantime, we can't simply just avoid using a certain word out of concern of potentially offending someone, even if the word in question is used in an appropriate, non-offensive context. I can't think of anyone else here who would think this word, or similarly loaded language of any kind, should be omitted in its entirety even though it's being used in a non-offensive context. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 07:11, 1 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::Exactly. The word is not used in a derogatory manner, it is completely fine. It's all about context, and in this case, the context is not offensive. The only person that has a problem with it is you, Pardescan. And we won't change it just because one person thinks it may be offensive. I'll repeat this again, because you seem to be ignoring it, '''you are looking too much into the negative aspects of the word'''.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 07:32, 1 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::It looks like [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AAbcboy&type=revision&diff=2814552&oldid=2806683 he's made good on his promise]. I've already pitched my counterargument. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 07:43, 1 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Template mainspace request ==<br />
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For the new Light trio page, there would need to be six Pokémon in the stats section, but there is no such template. I made a [[User:Celadonkey/Template:Groupstats/6|template]] for it and I wanted to know if I could mainspace it to add to the Light trio page. --[[User:Celadonkey|Celadonkey]] 14:05, 3 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Integration of Spaceworld Iterations of Existing Pokémon ==<br />
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I felt I would ask this here, since you're the one who linked the in-progress pages for the Pokémon Gold/Silver Spaceworld demo and you seem to know what the plans for them are, and the Gold and Silver Beta discussion page is rather cluttered and doesn't seem like a good place to catch the attention of anybody in particular.<br />
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There are a number of Pokémon added for the demo that did end up being released as official Pokémon, such as the Mareep, and Phanpy lines, Crobat, Espeon, Umbreon, Miltank, and others, who are present in the Spaceworld demo build, sometimes with different names and subtly-different designs. Additionally, there are Pokémon such as Haneko, Poponeko, and Wataneko, Gift, Blissey, Scissors, Leafeon, etc. that are very obviously earlier drafts of Pokémon that would appear in Generation II or later.<br />
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Are these Pokémon going to be integrated into the site differently compared to, say, Pokémon like Honoguma, Kurusu, Norowara, Wolfman, or Twinz, that were very clearly cut entirely and have yet to appear in any official, publicly-released Pokémon game?<br />
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As an aside, how are name labels going to be handled for Pokémon such as Kingdra, Girafarig, and Bellossom, whose final names are already present and in use in the demo? It seems to me that the sensible thing to do would be to label them with their final English names, since the names they have do have official English-language counterparts, and it would be clearer and easier to read for readers who might be unfamiliar with with the Japanese names of those Pokémon.<br />
[[User:Topaz Light|Topaz Light]] ([[User talk:Topaz Light|talk]]) 14:38, 3 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Right now, the focus should be filling out the userpages with information before all that. The staff will figure out how the handle them in the mean time.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 05:58, 4 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== A Small Request ==<br />
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Hi. A while ago I had asked to be put in the forcepreview group for editing. If possible, I think I'm ready to edit without needing to look at all my edits beforehand. If you could please take me out of forcepreview, and abuse as well, I would really appreciate it. Thank you. [[User:Veralann|<span style="color:#ffa900;">'''Incentive'''</span><span style="color:#00c7ff">''' (a.k.a. Veralann)'''</span>]] 19:57, 5 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I'll take you out of force preview, but not out of abuse. You have not made nearly enough mainspace edits to warrant be placed out of abuse. Being away for a month means absolutely nothing. If you want out of abuse, prove that you will contribute more to the mainspace by making a whole lot of edits there.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 05:04, 6 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Random question ==<br />
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On the Pokemon articles, why do the Pokedex entry, location, and sprite tables always put Emerald before FireRed and LeafGreen even though Emerald was released after? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 18:42, 12 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Probably to group the hoenn games together.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 05:18, 13 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Thanks for answering, I guess. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 06:03, 13 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Bulbapedia lagging again ==<br />
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It seems this site is becoming very laggy for me. Is there an issue with the site? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 06:28, 16 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Site's running smoothly for me. Probably something on your end.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 06:37, 16 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Well, it seems the site's running smoothly for me now. It might've had something to do with the connection. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 06:42, 16 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== List of locations by name ==<br />
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I personally think the page should stop excluding named routes. Even if we somehow made the definition clear, I still don't want people checking both that page and "list of routes" to see if either of them has the location they want. I also don't see a good reason for the exclusion. I think excluding cities and numbered routes is okay because people can tell if somewhere is a city or numbered route just by looking at the name. Even then, I'm leaning toward including cities because some places (like Two Island) don't end in "City" or "Town" and aren't obviously cities. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 05:40, 18 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Staff imitating user ==<br />
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{{u|Форс файре}} is a cyrillisation of your name. --[[User:Raltseye|<span style="color:#FF6464">R</span><span style="color:#11BB11">alts</span><span style="color:#6464FF">eye</span>]] [[User talk:Raltseye|prata med mej]] 18:47, 18 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Nintenchris5963 ==<br />
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The user {{user|Nintenchris5963}} added something to the [[Talk:Mt. Silver]] which I'm pretty sure isn't allowed on talk pages. Should the comment he made be removed or should it stay? (I'm only asking since it's normally not allowed to remove Talk Page comments). '''Ice''' [[User talk:The IceCream|Cream]] 10:46, 19 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:You can remove comments that breach the talk page policy.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 11:53, 19 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== "Faint" versus "Get knocked out" ==<br />
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"Faint" is the more technical term, so I try to change "knocked out" to "faint" wherever I can. Also, a few days ago, I tried to look for information about fainting by doing ctrl+f "faint" and couldn't find anything because the article said "knocked out" instead, so what I wanted took me a few minutes longer to find. I eventually made that edit in attempt to save time for anyone who might attempt the same thing in the future. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 15:03, 29 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:That sounds like a problem specifically for you. We are not going to cater the site whenever you face a problem. "Knocked out" carries the same meaning as "fainted", like what else could it possibly mean.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 15:21, 29 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
::The reasons why "fainted" is better than "knocked out", however insignificant, exist. Is there a reason why "knocked out" is better than "fainted"? And aren't we supposed to use technical terms over "fanmade terms" whenever possible? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 23:25, 29 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Neither is better, but both '''mean the same thing in spirit''' (unable to battle). It's not a necessary change. And "knocked out" is not "fan made" it's just a word used to substitute "fainted". Using a word that is not official doesn't make the word "fan made", that's just being ridiculous. Don't change things because you couldn't find something, just because you couldn't find something doesn't mean everyone else will face the same problem.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 02:57, 30 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::If neither is better, why do you care which one the article says? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 17:28, 30 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::Because it's an '''unnecessary change'''. Just because we use another word other than fainted, doesn't make that word fan-made. Like in a plot synopsis, we're not going to use the term "fainted" every time a Pokémon faints, we're going to use other terms like "knocked out" from time to time. Y'know, have a bit of variety in our articles.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 05:12, 31 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::That section was a game mechanic, not a plot synopsis. Aren't they different? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 17:45, 1 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::That's not the point. The point is, '''it's an unnecessary change'''. Stop reading what you want to read. It doesn't matter if it's not using the word "faint". Using another word other than "faint" doesn't make the article more inaccurate. It's just a word. You're thinking too much into it. No one will get confused by the term "knocked out". They'll know what it means.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 05:09, 2 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::I think what Force Fire tries to tell you isn't "don't change specifically this to specifically that", it's rather "don't change '''anything''' if the change doesn't clearly improve the article". The larger the number of edits, the more work there is for the servers; we should only change anything if it's justified. That's why he cares which one of the equally good terms stays — because changing it will unnecessarily overload servers. First come, first served in this case. [[User:Kikugi|Kikugi]] ([[User talk:Kikugi|talk]]) 15:37, 4 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Mallow Tsareena Sweet Scent ==<br />
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Hi. So in SM082 Mallow's Tsareena does something that some would describe as Sweet Scent, as it has a similar appearance and effect to how the move was used in its pre-evolved forms. PlayerKing95 has removed it because we don't have enough proof, despite the evidence pointing towards it. I, as well as another user, has reached out to him to discuss it. It has been more than a week now and he has ignored multiple messages to resolve this issue, and it is making me think that he will continue to ignore messages because it means the page can't be changed. Could I get some help with this? Thank you. --[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 14:48, 4 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I have given him a message. I currently have no strong opinions on this matter, generally we can say it's Sweet Scent because the animation is unlikely to change upon evolution. But I'm interested in what Playerking has to say.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 15:11, 4 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Thank you, looks like he finally responded to it. Based on his answer is it safe to put Sweet Scent back on, as there doesn't seem to be an argument against it.--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 16:14, 4 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Hello again. It's been a couple weeks and I was wondering what the status of Sweet Scent is. Thanks.--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 13:59, 30 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Random question ==<br />
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When I type just about anything in the search bar, the autocomplete suggestions always appear in the same order. For example, typing only "user:" always displays "User:Tiddlywinks", "User:Force Fire", "User:Raltseye", "User:SnorlaxMonster", etc. in that order. Do you have any idea what determines that order? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 04:12, 6 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Pretty sure the ordering is just random.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 04:18, 6 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
::If it was completely random, would it still put more active users closer to the top? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 04:35, 6 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::It's probably fixed, random but fixed. The listing probably wouldn't change regardless of how active a user is.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 04:51, 6 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::It could be fixed by the most visisted user pages. --[[User:Raltseye|<span style="color:#FF6464">R</span><span style="color:#11BB11">alts</span><span style="color:#6464FF">eye</span>]] [[User talk:Raltseye|prata med mej]] 11:00, 6 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Reason ==<br />
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Could you give a summary rather than only reverting a contribution without reason, that's irritating. {{unsigned|KyleRGiggs}}<br />
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:He's reverting you because this is the mandatory writing style for a recurring character in the anime and you're pointlessly changing it at [[Professor Burnet]]. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 04:45, 6 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Exactly. Your reasoning for removing it didn't even make sense, and if you actually read other anime character articles, other recurring characters also use the term "reappears".--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 04:51, 6 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::So DID both of you read the article CAREFULLY why "Since their marriage, Burnet has moved in with Kukui and Ash and '''has made regular appearances''' in the Sun & Moon series ever since." is present in the sentence? So why don't Professor Kukui being "reappear" for every episode? Regular appearancing should not be recurring? I don't get the sense. {{unsigned|KyleRGiggs}}<br />
::::Just because someone makes regular appearances, doesn't mean we can't use the word "reappear". Besides, the two don't appear that regularly, especially for Burnet who only appeared once in between SM071-80 (not counting the PokeProblem segment) and Kukui only physically appears four times in that 10 episode span. And sign your comments.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 05:18, 6 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::I did read that sentence. To be honest, that sentence needs to be reworded. As Force Fire said, it's not as regular as that sentence implies. If she did appear "regularly", then she'd actually be a main character, and then the need to list every episode she appears in is diminished. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 05:46, 6 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Random stuff ==<br />
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Since I last contacted you, I've come up with a few new things to ask every now and then, but they keep slipping my mind when I don't talk about them. Hence why I've decided to dedicate this section of the talk page for subjects that I come up with and need admin help for, which means that I may sometimes come back here when I come up with something new. But anyway, let's get started with the most recent subject I've come up with: the [[Looker]] Bureau post-game story from {{pkmn|X and Y}}. Since the [[Delta Episode]] and [[Episode RR]] have their own pages, shouldn't the Looker Bureau storyline also get its own article? I think it would deserve it.<br><br />
Oh, and speaking of new articles: has my suggestion of splitting the Kantonian Gym and Tide Song Hotel into their own location articles been moving forward? Has it received enough approval to actually be done some day? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 10:17, 6 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I did bring them (Kantonian Gym and Tide Song Hotel) up with the other staff members, didn't really come to a solid conclusion. For me, they both appear to have very little information text wise (from what is already there), and what we don't want are articles that are just one paragraph and a whole bunch of templates. I think it'd be good to create them in your userspace to see how the page will look.<br />
:The Looker saga could be made into it's own page. Make on in your userpage so the staff can decide if it's needed.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 05:22, 7 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
::I've created the page for the Kantonian Gym [[User:FinnishPokéFan92/Kantonian Gym|here]], and I also intend to start making the Tide Song Hotel and Looker Bureau pages as soon as I find the time for it. In the meantime, though, there's a couple of other things I would like to bring up.<br />
::Firstly, [[Talk:Serena (game)#Father? (revived)|this talk]] regarding the X and Y rival's father. Evidence heavily suggests that Calem/Serena's father is a Veteran Trainer who can be found in [[Snowbelle City]], but for the last bit of confirmation, we need someone who can read Japanese. Could you ask someone to help with that?<br />
::And secondly... Secondly... Well, this is ''exactly'' why I should come here to vent ideas out of my head more often. I've forgotten my second point. Embarrassing, I know, but I'll come back to it once I remember it.<br />
::--[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 07:22, 10 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Ah, I remember now! Some time ago, I created a category for {{cat|Legendary and Mythical Pokémon locations}}, my intention being to have it attached to the {{template|legendarylocations}} template. However, said template is protected, so I'd need help from a user like you to put it there. Could you do it? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 08:59, 10 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::I've brought the Kantonian Gym page to the others. There was talks of the Serena's father issue a while back, I think one of the staff members found in game text supporting it, though I asked again to be sure. Navigation templates only need the Navigation template category, the category you provided would go on the actual location pages.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 09:59, 11 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::Thanks, looking forward to the results.<br />
::::Yes, it's been proven that the gender pronoun used by the supposed father changes depending on the player character's gender, but we now also have links to two Japanese videos to see if this occurs in the Japanese version too, which could count as the final piece of evidence, and is why we need someone who can understand Japanese to confirm it.<br />
::::I mean like this: <nowiki><includeonly>[[Category:Legendary and Mythical Pokémon locations]]</includeonly></nowiki> When a category is attached to a template like this, it will only apply to the pages where said template is used at, not the template itself. That's what I would like you to do, if possible.<br />
::::--[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 10:56, 11 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::I've now finished the Tide Song Hotel page as well. You can find it [[User:FinnishPokéFan92/Tide Song Hotel|here]]. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 18:20, 11 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::Excuse the delay. The Looker bureau post game story can be made, with the title "Looker events" as that is what it's called in-game, according to another staff member. Haven't gotten much feedback regarding the other stuff that you brought up. I'll keep you updated regarding those.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 07:14, 15 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::Thanks for the update. Will do. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 08:45, 15 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::I haven't started working on the Looker evernts yet, but I haven't forgotten about them. In the meantime, though, there's an issue that has been bugging me for years now, which nobody has appparently done anything to fix yet. I'm talking about Generation VI models. Not only are we still missing most VS models from at least one set of the Generation VI core series games, we are also still missing a couple VS models: [[Archie]] and [[Zinnia]] are missing their VS models altogether (they've been using temporary ones for years now), and {{an|Brendan}} and {{an|May}} are missing their VS models with a [[Key Stone|Mega Bracelet]]. I've also wondered if the difference between the {{tc|Team Flare Grunt}}s who are striking a pose and those who aren't would warrant alternate VS models for them, but that's a lesser priority in my books.<br />
::::::::And, as for a more recent case of the same issue, we're still missing several US/UM VS models as well, including the {{tc|Master & Apprentice}} and {{tc|Sparring Partners}} VS models and [[Gladion]]'s VS model with a Z-Power Ring. Could you bring this up with people who could possibly fix these issues? I've tried to do it myself a couple times over the years, but it has never lead to anything. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 09:02, 20 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::Oh, almost forgot! [[Giovanni]]'s first VS model is a bit dark, and [[Professor Kukui]] is also missing his model with the Z-Power Ring. PS. Has the Serena/Calem father topic been solved? Can it be considered confirmed? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 11:18, 20 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::The VS sprites are something that is still ongoing, it just gets lower and lower on the priority list whenever something new comes around. It's something that will be done, "when" I can't really say for sure. Users are free to upload the models themselves, granted they get it from somewhere that isn't a fan site.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 11:54, 24 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::Figures. I'm just a guy who hates incompleteness, so these lingering cases of incompleteness tend to bug me a lot. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 12:17, 24 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::::For a while now already, I've been planning a massive edit project, where I go over '''every single''' page with a Stadium and Stadium 2 party template, and change the number of Poké Balls in the template(s) to 3 instead of 6 (since only three of the six Pokémon are always used per battle), as well as remove the word "Pokémon" from the game name, as it isn't that way in any other game party templates either. But that's why I've come here for you this time: in preparation for this project, could you edit {{template|Party/Single}} to include codes for Stadium and Stadium 2 in the game name section? And while we're on the topic of this template, do the Battle Chatelaines alone warrant a combined code for X, Y, OR, and AS, and the few version-exclusive Battle Tree Trainers from Generation VII codes for S/US and M/UM, respectively? PS. I hope you understood that last part. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 17:51, 3 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::::Thanks. I saw you just doing this, and I'm honestly really grateful for it, but in case you didn't know, when we refer to "Pokémon Stadium", the link should go to "[[Pokémon Stadium (English)]]", instead of just "[[Pokémon Stadium]]". --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 07:37, 5 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::::Never mind. You noticed that yourself. Sorry. XP --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 07:38, 5 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
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{{indent}}Added Stadium/2 to the template. As for changing the Poké Ball number, I'm iffy about it. I get what you're saying, but they still have six possible Pokémon. As for the last request, I assume you mean for the party template?, if so, they're already coded in.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 07:40, 5 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Yeah. Personally, I'm inclined to keep the six Poké Balls too, but, as you can see {{DL|Professor Kukui|Battle Royal Dome|here}}, for example, some user(s) apparently think that the number of shown Poké Balls should be equal to the maximum number of Pokémon that can be used from said selection of Pokémon at a time. Hence why most [[Pokémon World Tournament|PWT]] teams have six Balls, since all six Pokémon are used if the [[Triple Battle]] format is in used. Then there's also the case where the pool of possible Pokémon is greater than six, but I can understand that one.<br />
:As for the codes, I meant as in a code of "XYORAS" turning out as "X, Y, Omega Ruby, and Alpha Sapphire", and codes "SUS" and "MUM" turning out as "Sun and Ultra Sun" and "Moon and Ultra Moon", respectively. However, as I said, the former would only apply to the four {{tc|Battle Chatelaine}}s, while the latter ones would only apply for the few [[Battle Tree]] Special Trainers who are version-exclusive, so I wondered if that's a good enough reason for those codes to be created. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 09:26, 5 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::For the Kukui article, I think the line "Master Rank challenge of the Battle Royal, using three of the following Pokémon" will suffice. If they're confused, then they are just flat out not reading the article. As for the stadium articles, I think a similar line could work.<br />
::Ah I see, I've added the code for those.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 09:45, 5 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Thanks a ton! Now there's nothing stopping me from starting my grand edit project! And it's going to be even easier I expected, thanks to you!<br />
:::Nice work... Except that you made a small typo. You accidentally wrote "SUM" instead of "MUM" for "Moon and Ultra Moon". --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 11:18, 5 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::Another small typo found. The link for Stadium 2 leads just to "Pokémon Stadium". You forgot the "2" from the end. Whoops...<br />
::::Also, another unrelated thing: in Pokémon Colosseum, the player character starts the game off with a number of healing items in their Bag. Does this qualify as a method of acquiring these items for their respective articles? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 16:52, 5 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::Fixed. As for the items, I'd say those count.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 07:02, 6 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::I think we need a link template to make the Alola game links easier to create, as writing "<nowiki>[[Pokémon Sun and Moon|Pokémon Sun, Moon]], [[Pokémon Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon|Ultra Sun, and Ultra Moon]]</nowiki>" for a link version of "Pokémon Sun, Moon, Ultra Sun, and Ultra Moon" again and again can get tiresome, plus it eats up a lot of unnecessary space. I'd do it myself, but I'm not sure how, so I've come to ask for your help again. Can you do it, or at least ask someone else to do it? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 09:30, 17 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::Took a while to remember what the template was, but [[Template:Game4]] exists, though I edited it to add USUM. Typing the code <nowiki>{{game4|Sun|Moon|Sun|Moon}}</nowiki> should give you this: {{game4|Sun|Moon|Sun|Moon}}.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 11:54, 19 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::Thank you! Also, another issue regarding link templates: when adding a link to a Pokémon's alternate form, it's usually written as <nowiki>{{DL|List of Pokémon with form differences|<Pokémon>|<Form name>}}</nowiki>, which, like the previous thing you fixed, is a bit lengthy, especially if done repeatedly. So I've been thinking about the creation of a link template to fix the issue, going something like this: <nowiki>{{form|<Pokémon>|<Form name>}}</nowiki>, which would lead to the correct section of [[List of Pokémon with form differences]], based on the contents of the second slot (the one with <Pokémon> in my example here). Do you think this could/should be made? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 13:58, 19 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::Also, I just noticed: your edit on {{template|game4}} was a bit flawed. The "Sun and Moon" part of the link includes the word "Versions", even though it's not supposed to. I saw you fixed this issue regarding the "Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon" part of the link, but it seems you still missed something. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 06:04, 21 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::Did you miss my above messages? Or have you just been too busy to answer yet? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 08:55, 26 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::I purposely left the "versions" in the first link as I wasn't confident whether adding a switch would mess the template up and mess up other pages that are using the template, so I didn't risk it. I'll bring up to idea for a "form template" to the other staff members, though I think it's a fine idea.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 12:45, 26 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::::1) Oh. I see. Well, I've already used the template on a couple pages, so now what? 2) Thank you. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 13:32, 26 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::::Just leave the ones you've added. I'll tweak the template in a userspace at some point. As for the form template, [[User:Abcboy/Form|Abcboy]] has already made a template in his userpage, that'll be under consideration.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 13:03, 27 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
{{indent}}Thank you. Also, whoa. It appears that this template idea wasn't as new as I thought. Let's hope it'll finally get mainspaced some day. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 14:04, 27 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Thanks for helping me out with {{user|EternalDragonX}}. He also left a reply to your response already, just in case you haven't noticed yet. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 17:45, 2 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::He still doesn't believe either of us. Could you do something about it? And, if possible, could you continue the talk with him on his page instead of mine? PS. His refusal to use big capital letters in talk pages irks me. I know there's technically nothing wrong with it, but if you see fit to notify him about it too, then please do. If you don't, I won't hold it against you. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 16:18, 3 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::A few days ago, he started arguing with me about [[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92#viridian gym|another subject (s)]]. Please help me. I'm seriously growing tired of this. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 18:39, 6 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::I'll leave a message on their talk page.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 03:01, 7 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::Thank you. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:55, 7 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Undoing changes ==<br />
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Please, don't revert changes as I add information that a [[Focus Sash]] can be stolen from [[Iris]]' {{p|Haxorus}} during all the battles. I don't want to cause an edit war, but I placed the information in the correct row ({{gameabbrev5|B2W2}}). [[User:TheICTLiker4|TheICTLiker4]] ([[User talk:TheICTLiker4|talk]]) 06:56, 12 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:And as Finnish said, you don't permanently keep the item. It doesn't count.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 07:14, 12 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Status ==<br />
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What does "status" mean when used to describe Bulbapedia users? Like, how do we know the difference between "hiatus" and "inactive"? How long of a break counts as a hiatus? What does "X" mean? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 01:31, 24 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:If someone is on "hiatus", that means they are away for some time but will return eventually, how long the hiatus is differs between staff members. "Inactive" is detailed {{bp|Inactive Staff|here}}. X denotes someone of high authority, they may not be very active but they are still very important staff members.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 11:54, 24 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
::If someone says he/she/it is on hiatus and doesn't come back, then how long does it usually take for other people to change that person's status to "inactive"? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 18:18, 24 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::That decision is up to the Editor in Chief.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 04:34, 25 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::Okay thanks. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 00:07, 26 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Possible inappropriate name ==<br />
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Someone under {{user|RAEVEisdumb}} was created after someone called {{user|RAEVE}} was just created. Should it be flagged? '''Ice''' [[User talk:The IceCream|Cream]] 19:43, 24 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I've blocked the former but left the latter unblocked. I ''could'' block them both since they both share the same IP, but since RAEVE hasn't done anything yet, I'll leave them unblocked unless they become a problem.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 04:34, 25 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== PardescanSlowbro again ==<br />
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I have tried to offer [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2840364&oldid=2826236 constructive criticism] on PardescanSlowbro's spelling of "compliment" in [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Tyson_%28Hoenn%29&type=revision&diff=2840264&oldid=2834631 this edit], but once again, he responded with paranoia, a refusal to cooperate, and accusations of edit-stalking ([https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2840597&oldid=2840364] [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2840645&oldid=2840640] [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2840648&oldid=2840647] [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2840661&oldid=2840649]). In the last diff, he even had the gall to tell me I shouldn't be contacting anyone if that's how I'm going to talk to people. This is in spite of me [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2840647&oldid=2840645 admitting that my original message unintentionally did not come across as constructive and apologizing for that]. I cannot even talk about the most basic constructive criticism with this guy, and it is so frustrating. I was actually hoping I could have a more in-depth discussion about his writing style in regards to his recent edits, but given that he's always reacting like this in some form or fashion, I cannot muster the courage to talk to him, no matter what the subject is. I can't even properly talk to him about the minor stuff (silly, I know, but I can't even talk to him about the major stuff in the first place). I talk to other users the same way I'm talking to him, yet he's always the one who responds with hostility and vitriol. I'm really not trying to be malicious towards him or anything like that. Can you please comment on this? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 08:59, 29 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Grammarfreak at it again ==<br />
I know, you're very busy. But it seems that Grammarfreak are trying everything to post his/her claim are right. While everyone is wrong. Especially, when he illegally created it voice actress article without admin permission. Especially for trying to make it sounds he taken command of everything. If you can, could you please ban him/her. I tired of his aggression and persistent changing the sentences to be great. Thank you! [[User:Singaporean|Singaporean]] ([[User talk:Singaporean|talk]]) 02:57, 5 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
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:[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ASingaporean&type=revision&diff=2843736&oldid=2839035 I already told you], I didn't know you already had a userspace article for [[Sumire Morohoshi]] in the works, and I'm sorry about that! That aside, how is that "illegal"? I admitted it was a mistake caused by a lazy eye. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 03:18, 5 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:: You know, you create with one article after another without admin permission is already officially illegal. That is also included disrespectful to me after all the hard work, I have done and learns to make a better article. But it seems that, you had a history of pattern aggressive toward everybody. I wasn't surprised, your primary target now is me. It wasn't take every long in a next few day. You will ditch my all my userspace edited and try to create one to waste more page to fill in the empty to draw attention to everyone. Remind you again, this is not your playground of editing. [[User:Singaporean|Singaporean]] ([[User talk:Singaporean|talk]]) 03:28, 5 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::A while back, I [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:Tiddlywinks#Creating_Japanese_voice_actor_articles asked] {{U|Tiddlywinks}} about the process of creating VA articles, and they directed me to [[Bulbapedia:Project VA]] without mentioning anything else. The main project page ''never'', ''EVER'' said anything about having to consult with the admins first before the creation of an individual article, and trust me, I read through that thing thoroughly. I've been at this since last month, and no one has given me any warnings or blocked me for creating so many VA articles during that time. This is in comparison to [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:GrammarFreak01/Archive_1#Creating_pages the warning I got] from Tiddlywinks hours after I created the [[Ash's Pikachu (M20)]] article (which was what motivated me to ask Tiddlywinks about the VA articles in the first place). Because of all that, I took it that my actions were already cleared by Tiddlywinks and I didn't even have to worry about asking the admins any further.<br />
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:::If it was supposed to be common sense for me to just alert the admins about the creation of any kind of article beforehand, then I do apologize for that. I was simply following everything that was laid out for me at [[Bulbapedia:Project VA]], with the misconception that Tiddlywinks was alright with everything simply because I contacted him only once before my article creation spree. And ''trust me'', I am now reviewing all of the other userspace articles you've got so I will know which VAs you are already working on. I'm so sorry if you felt cheated and that your hard work on the Morohoshi userspace article was wasted because of me. I swear, I was not aware of that userspace article, and that is not going to happen again, I promise. Especially now that you've got your own eye on me and my conduct. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 03:48, 5 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::Regardless of your apologize to me or not. The action will be leave to [[User:Force Fire|Force Fire]] to dealt with. Even though of the risk for me being banned one more time again. I also satisfied. [[User:Singaporean|Singaporean]] ([[User talk:Singaporean|talk]]) 03:57, 5 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::I'm well aware that it's all up to Force Fire, given the severity of your complaints against me. I'm just trying to explain what you would call my more egregious actions. I at least have that right to do so, don't I? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 03:59, 5 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
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GrammarFreak already clarified that he didn't see your userpage, Singaporean. No need to overreact the way you did. He apologized, move on. Anyone can create a VA article, granted that it fits the notability criteria. Users can make it on the mainspace, '''only if''' they are capable of making it up to Bulbapedia standards upon making the article (to which I feel GrammarFreak did). And don't take that as an invitation to create VA article on the mainspace, Singaporean.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 07:18, 5 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:If you say so, then I will go ahead and create all my remaining work directly without the need of my userspace. Thanks. [[User:Singaporean|Singaporean]] ([[User talk:Singaporean|talk]]) 12:30, 5 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::No. I '''did not''' say you can make them in the mainspace. I literally said it in my response. The ones you made on your userspace still needs to be approved. And that is '''NOT''' how you move userpages to the mainspace.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 12:59, 5 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::My apologized for my rush work. I didn't know about it. It is already almost a year and I didn't heard anything about you and the other approved my work to main article is just really frustrating. I do hope, you can give me an answer after a few days later. Thank you! [[User:Singaporean|Singaporean]] ([[User talk:Singaporean|talk]]) 13:05, 5 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== A strange user talk page ==<br />
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Hello and sorry if I'm bothering you, but I started to wonder, if such content as [[User talk:CarterLumpkins|this]] is OK to have on one's user talk page. This doesn't seem to aggressively promote some service, thought it does have a weblink. However, the topic is so NOT Pokémon... is this allowed? Is this evidence of a spammer? The user page was created three minutes before the talk page. Thank you! [[User:Kikugi|Kikugi]] ([[User talk:Kikugi|talk]]) 12:33, 6 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Dealt with. Those are usually spambots.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 12:55, 6 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Search bar problems ==<br />
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I just started having a problem with the search bar at the left of my screen. Every time I type something in, it won't show me a list of options, and every time I try to look up a list of pages containing a certain word(s), it won't show the lists. Instead, there's a message that reads, "An error has occurred while searching: We could not complete your search due to a temporary problem. Please try again later." I definitely know I'm not misspelling anything. What's going on with that? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 04:15, 9 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Staff are aware of the issue and will try to get to the bottom of it asap.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 05:01, 9 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Okay. That's good to know. Thanks for the heads-up. :) [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 05:06, 9 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Internal error ==<br />
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Occasionally, since about last week, I've been getting these "Internal error" messages every time I try to submit an edit. I manage to get through it, but the frequency of these messages is starting to increase and I don't know what's going on. This is an example of the "Internal error" message I tend to get.<br />
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[8e5e0cf8d713375f0b2bb8b3] 2018-09-17 04:55:29: Fatal exception of type "Error"<br />
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Would you mind getting to the bottom of this? Thank you. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 04:57, 17 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
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:I'm still getting these messages with intensifying frequency. Here's the latest one:<br />
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[d52bf67181c53700b65c1f44] 2018-09-18 04:52:01: Fatal exception of type "Error"<br />
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:[[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 04:53, 18 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Staff are aware of the issues and are looking into it.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 05:58, 18 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Thank you. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 19:19, 18 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
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::::I'm not sure what's being done to rectify this problem, nor do I presume to know, but for the record, I'm still having these problems. Here's the latest one I got:<br />
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[39026dee922ac834907c8f6e] 2018-09-20 07:23:46: Fatal exception of type "Error"<br />
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::::[[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 07:25, 20 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
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:::::My apologies, but this problem is still happening for me. Is the staff still investigating the issue? Or did they think they found a solution and implemented it already? Not that I doubt anyone's effectiveness in this matter. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 23:43, 12 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::Still haven't heard back on whether the problem was fixed or not, but I'll ping the higher ups about the issue.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 04:31, 13 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::Okay, thanks. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 04:45, 13 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Transfer-only moves and ability changes ==<br />
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Can we add a section to every Pokemon page that lists all the moves the Pokemon can know only if it originated in an earlier generation (move tutors, old TMs, etc.)? Cross-checking multiple pages for this information is annoying. Second, can we change the Pokemon infobox template to make pages like {{p|Pelipper}} clear that Pelipper can't have drizzle in Generations 3-6? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 18:06, 24 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Zlblosser18 ==<br />
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A little heads-up, it looks like in spite of [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AZlblosser18&type=revision&diff=2853997&oldid=2853990 your advice], Zlblosser18 is still [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Charmander_%28Pok%C3%A9mon%29&type=revision&diff=2855104&oldid=2855092 removing templates]. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 20:22, 30 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
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:It also seems like they're disregarding [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Zlblosser18&diff=prev&oldid=2855095 my advice] that titles like [[Pokémon Origins]] and [[Pokémon Generations]] are not traditionally italicized here. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 20:25, 30 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Looks like TiddlyWinks has given them a final warning. --[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 04:33, 1 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Seems like it. I'll withdraw the complaint, then. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 05:02, 1 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== floor order cont ==<br />
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im confused, youre saying the ordering will be RBY>GSC>FRLG>HGSS regardless of floor order? so do you mean list all rby items before gsc or put them together if there are two items on the same floor? yes, i am using common sense by not putting an item deep in the dungeon first, but what if said deep item were to be on one of the earlier floors if not the earliest? then floor order dictates i would have to list said item before many of the other items i pass by before i even get to it. thats why floor order is bad. i know were not a walkthrough, but we have to list the items in one way or another, and like you said, it should make sense atleast right? I understand that it is not a "high" priority. but if i can list in an order that makes sense, why not? is floor order really a higher priority? again im trying to say that floor order is bad. --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 12:58, 4 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Yes, the game order will still be the same regardless of the template going by floor order. If an items exist in more than one set of games and is in the same location, the games get put together.<br />
:Just so we're on the same page here, when you say "deep" you mean tucked in the furthest part of the first floor, right? Because there's no way the place I just described could be the first thing you come across. If you mean if the player traverses from the opposite end (say Victory Road, Pokemon League entrance to Route 22 entrance), then that's not really important. The location ordering should be from the player's first run through of the area (so Route 22 to Pokemon League).<br />
:Sorting by floor order helps users see what items are available at a certain floor in one grouping. It'd actually be ''more'' confusing if the listing were to alternate between "Floor 1" and "Floor 2", especially if there's suddenly a "Basement floor" in between them.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 14:43, 4 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::may i suggest instead of RBY>GSC>FRLG>HGSS, that it be RBY>FRLG>GSC>HGSS? because rby frlg are basically the same games and a lot of the time they will have items that are common to all of them, but also a lot of the time frlg will have some new items, and shoving gsc items in between would not only look weird, but confusing.<br />
::yes i mean for example tucked away in a place on the first floor that also serves as the back exit. therefore in a regular playthrough, most players would pick up said item last, since you run by every other item before it. victory road is a perfect example of what im talking about. of course i wouldnt list the items as if they were going from indigo plateau to route 22. that makes no sense. if you look at the list: https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Victory_Road_(Kanto)#Items i list guard spec ultra ball and full restore on floor 2 after overheat on floor 3. why? because those 3 items are grouped in an area in floor 2 that can only be accessible after passing through the entirety of floor 3; the area in this case being the exit. so in my head, this ordering makes perfect sense. blindly following floor order would mean i would list these items before the max revive, which again i dont think makes much sense since we talked about how they literally cant be come acrossed before the floor 3 items. --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 18:11, 4 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Any unpredictable order is bad. A reasonable person would generally expect to see everything for a floor together. If I see several items that start with something like 1F, 2F, 1F, 3F, 5F (or whatever), it just looks messy to me. Nothing that extreme may occur in the games, but that's what your logic would demand. (And less extreme examples are still messy IMO.)<br />
:::It's not exactly hard to look back to the "end" of a floor if there were items you just couldn't get to when you passed through the first part (if floors are grouped). But if floors aren't grouped, then if I see several items starting with "2F" and then that turns into "3F", I'm gonna think those were all the items on 2F in the list, and that can be very confusing. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 00:34, 5 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::altho i still believe that 1F, 2F, 1F, 3F, 5F (or whatever) would be better if it made sense that you'd get the items that way, i have argued my point to the fullest and i can respect it if you disagree. however, still waiting on you force fire to answer my question about listing the items in region order rather than game order. aka kanto>johto>hoenn etc. over rby>gsc>frlg etc. --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 00:57, 5 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::Ordering the games by RBY>FRLG>GSC>HGSS is fine, some (or a majority of) articles are like this.<br />
:::::So we are talking about the same thing, that brings up the question of why you are concerned about having to place an item that is deep in a dungeon as the first item. As I said, the order should be listed on the players first run through of the area. You don't need to worry about those that'll traverse the opposite way.<br />
:::::As for items that can only be accessed via another floor, group those under all the other Floor 2 items and say in the descriptor that it requires traversing through Floor 3. Putting those items below Floor 3 makes it a touch confusing, and also a bit walkthrough-ish. I guess it's just me being condescending, but players should be able figure that stuff (having to traverse through floor 3 to get to some floor 2 items) for themselves. And ass TiddlyWinks said, listing the items by floor looks much more cleaner and easier on the eyes.<br />
:::::Also, I saw and checked that you changed the template to be one big listing rather than separate listings. Maybe that should've been discussed first before making the edit. --[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 04:47, 5 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::i am concerned about having to place an item that is deep as the first item because if for example it was one of, if not the only, items on the first accessible floor (say floor 1), but not accessible unless you traverse one of the other floors (say floor 2), then we gotta list it first even tho you probably get the other items on floor 2 before it. you already answered this in your 3rd paragraph. like i said to tiddlywinks if u guys feel like floor order is cleaner then fine. i also like your solution of putting in the descriptor that it requires traversing through floor 3. i think ill do that. --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 14:33, 5 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::about putting in the descriptor that obtaining an item requires traversing another floor.. would you just list that as a sentence at the end? or would you like put it in an asterisk at the end? --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 15:24, 5 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::Examples of these sorts of explanations/directions can be seen on pages like [[Frost Cavern]], [[Victory Road (Kalos)]], and [[Haina Desert]]. The descriptions should be easily readable, which tooltips are not (mobile users cannot read them at all AFAIK). The only reason to consider a tooltip would be if the detail is exceptionally long. (Because a very long description is, itself, also not the most readable thing.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:24, 6 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Satomi Kōrogi ==<br />
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I need help moving the [[Satomi Kōrogi]] article. The romanization seems to prefer using Satomi K'''oo'''rogi instead but I am unable to move the article because of a redirect interfering. Thank you. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 22:33, 6 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Moved.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 03:01, 7 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Thanks! :D [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 03:18, 7 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Transfer-only moves and ability changes ==<br />
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Can we add a section to every Pokemon page that lists all the moves the Pokemon can know only if it originated in an earlier generation (move tutors, old TMs, etc.)? Cross-checking multiple pages for this information is annoying. Second, can we change the Pokemon infobox template to make pages like {{p|Pelipper}} clear that Pelipper can't have drizzle in Generations 3-6? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 20:34, 10 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I personally see no need in listing transferable moves, it's common sense. Of course a Pokémon that only knows X move in Gen III is going to know it if you transfer it to a Gen vII game. And it's really not much of a nuisance. Want a to know a Pokémon's moveset from a specific generation? go to the separate learnlists. Want a specific move? go to the specific move article. It's not ''that'' annoying.<br />
:The infobox templates is currently in discussions of an update. The update will accommodate having more abilities listed. Have patience.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 07:05, 11 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::The whole purpose of learnset sections was to put every move that a Pokemon can know in one place, right? If the learnset sections are not doing that, what other purpose do they have? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 19:47, 12 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::It's to list moves a Pokémon can learn in the '''current''' generation. Transferring moves isn't exactly "learning a move by level up or breeding in Generation VII". If a Pokémon can only learn a move in a previous generation, go to that generation's learnset or the move's article. You're only clicking one link, not 500. It's not as mundane as you're making it out to be.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 04:29, 13 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::It appears to me you're just saying how another question is easy to answer.<br />
::::If you're seriously interested in this (not just stalling), let me suggest (with best intentions) to just try to answer "What moves can Pikachu '''''know''''' in a copy of, say, USUM?" by browsing Bulbapedia. I currently need more than 5 minutes, and I would consider this ''the'' central use case, and probably the most important question for competitive play. (It's not even easy to be confident the resulting list was exhaustive, so if you'd like, you may even post your list here, and let me see if I have any more.) [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 09:46, 13 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::Saying "what can Pikachu learn in USUM" is literally the same as saying "what can Pikachu learn in Gen VII". Not Gen II. Not Gen IV. Saying a specific game means you're looking for a learnset from a specific generation. And it certainly does not take "more than 5 minutes" to find what you want. If you know what you're looking for, you have a Pokémon and move/generation in mind, it should only take you one minute top. A few clicks. You're not going to be scouring the entire site just to look for one move.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 11:43, 13 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::Neither of these question were asked, you just continue to answer them.<br />
::::::Pikachu can ''know'' moves in USUM that it cannot ''learn'' in USUM, {{m|Mega Kick}}, for example. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 12:10, 13 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::It's called a learnlist for a reason, moves a Pokémon can learn in a game or generation. Of course it'll know a move from a previous generation if you transfer it to a current game, that does not need to be spelled out. No one is going to think that it won't know the move once they transfer the Pokémon. If users want to know what moves it can learn previously, they can browse the site.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 12:24, 13 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
{{indent}}I'm not sure you understand me/us (or even try to, really). So, just for me to get this clear: Are you saying that, in your opinion, a) the question "What moves can <species> '''''know''''' in <game/generation>?" is not relevant, not worthwhile for Bulbapedia to easily provide an answer to, and that b) species pages should only provide moves a Pokémon can ''learn'' in the current generation? [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 14:14, 13 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:It's not hard to find what you're looking for, all you're doing is clicking on one link, totaling up to a few seconds. If you had to go through page after page, I can get why it'd be annoying or hard. But it's not.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 14:39, 13 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::I'm beginning to feel confident you're just stalling. I'm asking questions, I don't get answers. <br />
::I'll just continue trying to keep this simple: Please list all moves Pikachu can know (in a USUM game). If it's not hard, I'd be glad to hear that it's easily possible using Bulbapedia (and preferably also how). Also (and in particular if you're unable or unwilling to list all of Pikachu's moves), please answer the two questions I just asked, a) and b). [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 15:02, 13 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Bulbapedia is not a strategy guide. Comp is not our focus.<br />
:::You're highlighting comp as your reason for a promoting "moves a [species] can know" angle. But there's a bunch of comp stuff we're never going to do. We're not doing tier lists. We're not gonna tell you what "good" movesets are. Comp is no reason that we would "have" to accomodate anything.<br />
:::That's not to say we're thoroughly hostile to a list of "legacy" moves.<br />
:::But kind of like ForceFire has said, learnlists ARE for what a Pokemon can learn ''within'' a generation. It doesn't ''strictly'' make sense to include "legacy" moves; that's a concern that comes from a pretty specific focus like comp/challenges.<br />
:::Yes, it would be somewhat easier if we had a list of legacy moves. But (to repeat myself) that's not necessarily our focus and you ''can'' figure the information out if you really need to.<br />
:::(And to repeat myself once more, we're not hostile to a legacy move list. I just can't tell you if/when it might happen at the moment.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 15:39, 13 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::Thanks, Tiddlywinks.<br />
::::I may be highlighting comp as the use case, and/but I know it's not our focus, I don't do so because I want to promote comp or anything. What I'm basically trying to do is rephrase Sumwun's question of what use case species (or learnset) pages currently try to serve; basically, why are they there, what are they supposed to easily provide an answer to:<br />
::::"What move can <species> ''learn'' in <game/generation>?" may be equally sensible/important, but if the pages were focused (solely/primarily) on that, there would be no need to have an "By events" subsection (to a lesser extent, probably not even "By breeding"), and I think we can all agree that this information is valuable/sensible. What I'm thinking, and what I believe Sumwun thinks, is that a "By transfer from a prior generation" subsection is equally valuable/sensible.<br />
::::Anyway, I know how that's a hassle to create or even design, and I'm not forcing it. But I'd like to stress that Sumwun's suggestion, in my opinion, is far from focusing on some weird, minor edge case, and is providing benefit. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 16:17, 13 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::"Please list Pikachu's moves in USUM". Just go to its page. It's right ''there''. Want to know it's previous moves, go click on ''one'' link. Easy. And I'm answering sumwun's reasoning of "cross checking multiple pages is annoying", since he's the one that stated this conversation. All you're trying to do is justify sumwun's laziness.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 16:49, 13 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::Right now, I can't just click one link. Depending on how old a Pokemon is, I may need to click 1-6 links, load 1-6 learnset pages, and scan 2-25 sections. I would consider reducing this to 0 clicks and 1 section a big and worthwhile improvement. If this kind of laziness is unjustified, why do we have any learnset pages at all? We might as well be saying, "Want to know whether <Pokemon> can learn <move>? Load ''one'' move article and do ''one'' ctrl f. Easy." <br />
::::::By the way, I would also like to know the answers to Nescientist's 2 questions. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 22:05, 13 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::That's an exaggeration. If you know what you're looking for, it'll only taking you one-two clicks. You can't be searching for what move a Pokemon can learn previously without a set goal. You're playing Ultra Sun, but you want to know what it can learn in '''Diamond''' version. Diamond is the key word which equates to '''Gen IV'''. So you're already looking for its Gen IV learnset. Go to its page and click on Gen IV. Done.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 11:54, 14 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::I have moved this discussion to [[Bulbapedia talk:Project Pokédex/Structure#Adding moves available only by transfer from an earlier generation|a more public place]], so others have an easier opportunity to chime in (and so that possibly, ForceFire doesn't receive as much email notifications about messages not directed to them directly).<br />
::::::::ForceFire, the question "What moves can Pikachu know in USUM?" does not include "Diamond", and [[Pikachu (Pokémon)]] does not mention Mega Kick. I have detailed some more about what pages you'd need to traverse where I have continued the discussion I'm interested in.<br />
::::::::Tiddlywinks, I have addressed some of your comments there, and would appreciate to get to know your opinions. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 12:18, 14 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::Pikachu cannot '''learn''' Mega Kick in USUM (hence why it's not there at first glance), but it can know it if you transfer it from another game (which is common sense, of course it's going to know Mega Kick if you transfer it, the game isn't going to force it to forget the move).<br />
:::::::::I just gave an example of how it only take one-two clicks to find what you're looking for. And you misinterpreted my example. If you're thinking of a certain game, you're automatically thinking of a certain generation. Go to the page and click on that specific generation.<br />
:::::::::You can convince me to change my mind, but so far, "it's too hard, annoying, and boring to sift through a few pages" is not convincing enough to change my mind.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 12:28, 14 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::I don't understand. Please name the page(s) I need to answer "What moves can Pikachu '''''KNOW''''' in USUM?". [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 12:31, 14 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
{{indent}}When you say "know" you're saying what it can learn via other means, and that includes transfer. The pages are the previous gen learnset pages, those are the moves Pikachu can know in USUM if you were to transfer it to USUM. Honestly...--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 12:35, 14 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:And those are six, plus Pikachus page, that's seven. (I even mentioned other difficulties at the other page.) It's not easy, it's hard. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 12:37, 14 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::If you have a game in mind, you have a generation in mind. You mentioned Mega Kick, Pikachu can only learn it in Gen I, III, and VI. So you're '''ONLY''' going to click '''one''' of those link, not the other links. Why would you. You already have the generation you need, you don't need to click on the others. If someone is unsure of the generation, they would look through the move article and ctrl+f "Pikachu".<br />
::It's like if I wanted to watch a certain Johto league episode, but I don't know which number it is. I'm not going to watch the entirety of the XY series, I'm going to look through the Johto arc.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 12:44, 14 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::You're exactly right there, but you're answering "Can Pikachu know Mega Kick in USUM?", not "What moves can Pikachu know in USUM?". I have no prior knowledge that Mega Kick is a possible solution. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 12:47, 14 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::If you don't have a move in mind, then you have a previous generation in mind (to transfer from). If you have neither in mind, then you're not really looking for "what move can Pikachu know in USUM".--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 12:51, 14 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::I'm positive that I have neither in mind, and that I am looking for "what moves can Pikachu know in USUM". [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 13:22, 14 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::Then you're not transferring then. The only other viable option of wanting to know what moves Pikachu can ''know'' is events, since everything else it learns, and events are already listed. <br />
::::::If you're transferring Pokémon, you already have either a generation or move in mind. You're either thinking "I want to transfer Pikachu from <game>, but am not sure what it can learn in that game", which you then click on the '''appropriate''' generation moveset. Or you're thinking "I know Pikachu can learn <move> in a previous generation, but I don't know what game", which you then go to the move page and ctrl+f PIkachu.<br />
::::::If you're not thinking of neither of those, then you aren't looking to transfer Pokémon.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 13:46, 14 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::I'm not thinking of a specific generation. I want to know the answer to "What moves can Pikachu know in USUM".<br />
:::::::I can post some ''more special'' questions that require the same page traversion, such as "Can Pikachu know a sleep-inducing move?" (i.e., can I get a Pikachu on my copy of USUM with a sleep-inducing move, by whatever means?"), or "What is the most powerful move Magikarp may know in USUM?" (i.e., what's the maximum base power for any move a Magikarp may know in USUM, by whatever means).<br />
:::::::These should be questions you may understand better. Please try to answer them. (If you do, you will find out that you won't find the answers at the species pages alone.) [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 15:50, 14 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::If we are expected to be able to go to the move page and ctrl f the Pokemon's name for transfer-only moves, why are we not expected to do that for all moves? Why do we have full lists of level up moves and TM moves for each Pokemon? <br />
::::::::By the way, another example of a question that would become a lot easier is, "What are all the ways I can get a Golem that knows a physical attack that is strong against psychic?" [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 22:20, 14 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
{{indent}}Nescientist... what do you mean by "know"? Because a Pokémon can "know" a move via transfer or events. If you have neither a generation or move in mind, then you are '''''not''''' transferring. You are just blindly going through pages for no reason. If you're question ends so vaguely at "What moves can Pikachu know in USUM", then I don't know what you're looking for because you're not explaining the method. It's either "What can Pikachu know in USUM '''via transfer'''" or "What can Pikachu know in USUM '''via events'''". If you're talking about transfers, then I've already answered that many times.<br />
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Wanting to know what "sleep inducing moves" or "highest possible power" is competitive fluff. We are not a strategy guide. Casual gamers aren't going to care about that stuff. A casual gamer is going to want to know what moves their Pokemon can know in the game they have in their hands without outside influence (i.e. transfer or events). They're not going to care about sleep inducing move or highest based power. Not everyone is a competitive player.<br />
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Sumwun, don't be difficult. I don't even know what you're talking about. If you have a '''''move''''' in mind, go to the move page and ctrl+f. If you have a '''''game''''' in mind, go to the appropriate learnset page. You are '''''not''''' going to be looking through the learnsets to look for a single move. No one is going to do that. '''''No one''''' is going to blindly look through six learnsets looking for just one move, when they can just go to the move article itself. It's not that hard. I don't think you understand what the different kinds templates are for, and assuming they're all do the same thing.<br />
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You're Golem question, like Nescientist's "sleep inducing" question is competitive fluff. Again, we are not a strategy guide. And your question was '''even more vague'''. What is the method you seek? level up? breeding? TM? what? Be more specific in your searches. I like to think users are browsing the site fully aware of what they are looking for, not exact but an idea of what they are looking for. By the sounds of it, you're browsing the site without a single thing in mind. It stops at "What can Golem learn/know" rather than specifying "What can Golem learn/know via this specific method".--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 04:31, 15 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I already rephrased what it means when I do not specify: it means "by whatever means", which means at all, by level-up or events or transfer or ''anything'' else. Moves a Pokémon may know in USUM. I'm explicitly ''not'' saying "by transfer only" (or anything else), I don't know why you insist I need to say that; because that is not what I'm asking.<br />
:Anyway, you seem to have understood that my specific questions (and Sumwun's) are hard to answer, not easy. (Which is good, because that's why I mentioned them; my original question is ''more general''.)<br />
:I would object to your take that it's only competitive fluff (and I did so [[Bulbapedia talk:Project Pokédex/Structure#Adding moves available only by transfer from an earlier generation|here]]). What do you think casual gamers would be looking for? If you're excluding what you call "competitive fluff", do you think they would need "By breeding"? (If so, why?) [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 16:33, 15 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::If nobody goes through learnset pages for moves, what do people use them for? <br />
::Transfer-only moves are not competitive fluff or strategy guides. They are real Pokemon information that is true even when nobody is competitive battling and is not at all fan-made, but they simply happen to be more useful to competitive battlers. If this kind of information isn't allowed on Bulbapedia, why do we have a page called "World Championships", which is pretty much the definition of competitive battling? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 03:10, 16 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Nescientist: This discussion is about transfer moves, so I assume you're talking about and looking for transfer moves. If you're looking for "anything at all", then you're not looking for anything specific so the '''bare minimum''' is already on the species article, you do not need to click on anything else. Everything it can know at '''bare minimum''' is ''right there''.<br />
:::I didn't even answer both of your questions. I basically said that they are irrelevant because we are not a strategy guide. We're not going to say "This Pokemon can know this move which is X power" because that is competitive fluff and strategy guide-ish. No casual gamer is going to think that specifically.<br />
:::I just said what casual gamers are looking for "'''things their Pokemon can learn normally within the game they have in their hands, without outside influence like transfers and events'''". This includes, level up moves, TMs, and such. Breeding is game mechanic and should be listed, I don't regard it as competitive fluff.<br />
:::Sumwun: I don't think you understand how these things work. People look through the learnsets to look for moves '''''from a specific game or generation'''''. They are looking for the '''entire moveset''', not just one move. '''The entire moveset'''. If you're looking for one move, go to the move article. Looking for a moveset for a specific game, look through the learnset. It's not that hard to understand.<br />
:::"World Championships" is an article detailing an event. It's not detailing strategies. It's not detailing what moves would be better. It's not detailing which Pokemon would be better. It's just detailing the event. Again, it's like you have no idea what that article is about.<br />
:::It's real information, yes. But it can be seen by going through the moveset pages, because like I said, someone looking to transfer their Pokemon over so they can have a Pokemon with a move they can no longer learn, already have a game or move in mind. They are not blindly looking through pages.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 06:23, 16 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::Just going to put my 2 cents in here (I'm not strongly for nor against):<br />
::::1) Firstly, I think an important question that needs to be answered first is: Does a section on transfer-only moves have any role outside of the competitive field? All the examples raised at the moment have all been competitive play-oriented which I agree shouldn't be Bulbapedia's focus. I can think of one question where a transfer-only moves section ''could'' help with (e.g. "A Corsola I received from a trade has Whirlpool, Sucker Punch, and Secret Power. Is it hacked?" - although it wouldn't be too hard to find this information elsewhere + it is quite a specific question). <br />
::::2) Another point that should be discussed is that some (albeit a small number of) moves may not be obvious to some users whether they can be transferred or not - e.g. inability to transfer most HMs, ability to transfer from VC, ability to transfer certain HMs (e.g. Defog, Whirlpool)<br />
::::3) Lastly, I should note that a transfer-only moves section is likely to be longer than most will think (esp. as most of it is made up of moves which lost their TM status in a new gen) - though the length isn't as important --[[User:Wowy|<span style="color:#AAAAFF">'''Wowy'''</span>]][[User talk:Wowy|<sub style="color:#B69E00;">'''(토크)'''</sub>]] 07:01, 16 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::i don't think your example is all that great, because force fire is going to say you would just look up the move pages of each of those individual moves and ctrl f for corsola. an example i could think of which is pretty niche, but possible i think, is "im dead set on having a corsola for my playthrough of ultra sun. i want it to have the best movelist possible; im willing to transfer from prev gens to do so. is there a quick way i can get a list of all those moves without having to go through all the pages?" so imo this new section for moves learned from prev gens isnt useless; theres definitely a benefit. i think the question is, is it worth it.<br />
:::::if you ARE going through the lists of previous gens, you already know what you ARENT looking for: every move learnable from the current gen. although i dont think going through lists for new moves requires THAT much work, i dont think the work is negligible either. --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 07:47, 16 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::Yes, I completely agree with you (maybe I should have made that more clear). I was just trying to give an example of a question which would be less competitive play-oriented (because the examples already given are not), and I as I said, the information could easily be found elsewhere --[[User:Wowy|<span style="color:#AAAAFF">'''Wowy'''</span>]][[User talk:Wowy|<sub style="color:#B69E00;">'''(토크)'''</sub>]] 08:48, 16 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::I don't know how I can be any clearer, but the question is "What are moves Pikachu can know in USUM", i.e. by whatever means; it is not, I repeat, NOT something else. The species page alone does not answer it: you need that and ''all'' previous generation learnsets, at minimum. (And that's all I'm saying, basically. I believe you, ForceFire, finally understood that.)<br />
:::::::Wowy, I believe it would only be beneficial if you presented your opinion at [[Bulbapedia talk:Project Pokédex/Structure#Adding moves available only by transfer from an earlier generation|that other talk page]] (maybe even answered my question there). Anyway, I'm just gonna address your points here:<br />
:::::::1. I wouldn't know how any question about moves would not have at least some relevance to competitive play; battles and moves are a central concept of the Pokémon franchise, and anyone who plays Pokémon should have some interest in competitive play. It's a different thing to talk about serious competitive battlers (like, those who maintain tier lists and whatnot), though; and I think they wouldn't really care what the answer to my two questions are (but I could be mistaken, because again, I'm not a competitive player myself). The Swinub I mentioned at that other page was purely non-competitive in that sense, too; I used it for a playthrough. As an aside, I guess the section I propose wouldn't necessarily answer your type of "legal" question; for example, a section would include both {{m|Pay Day}} and {{m|Mimic}} for Pikachu, but a Pikachu that knows both moves simultaneously would still be illegal (I think that's similar to how the current "By breeding" section cannot answer whether two Egg Moves at the same time are legal.)<br />
:::::::2. I already said that at that other page when I explained that it is even harder to find out than I initially thought. (A "By transfer" section will ''not'' necessarily include all moves a Pokémon may have known at some earlier game (Pikachu ''can'' know {{m|Petal Dance}}, for example, but ''not'' in USUM by any means such as transfer); therefore, I also don't think Tiddlywinks' choice of the word "legacy moves" was exact for my proposal.)<br />
:::::::3. I'm not sure it will be that long, but as you said, it shouldn't really matter.<br />
:::::::Sumwun: I ''do'' understand what you're saying (and I agree), but you seem to derail the discussion with some of your more provocative questions (ForceFire never said Bulbapedia shouldn't cover anything that has anything to do with competitive play, for example). I hope that's not your intention, let's try to keep it simple. :)<br />
:::::::ForceFire, moves listed under "By breeding" are not covered by the text you bolded (and by the way, in my opinion, those are about as much "competitive fluff" as "By transfer" is), "By events" even less. I think you didn't answer whether you think casual gamers would need "By breeding"!? (Or did you? I'm still - seriously - trying to get to the bottom of what you think move sections should cover and why.) [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 16:57, 16 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::You didn't even read what I wrote, because I already answered that in my previous response. And I know it's an outright lie when you say you don't have a game or generation in mind, because the question is "What can Pikachu know in '''USUM'''". You've singled out '''USUM'''. That is that game you have in mind. And since you're not looking for anything specific, just the bare minimum (level up, TMS) and that's already on the article. All moves that Pikachu can know through '''normal gameplay (i.e. not anything specific, by any means)''' in '''USUM''' are already on the Pikachu page. The species page already has the most current (i.e. '''USUM''' or '''Gen VII''') moveset. Why are you even looking through the previous generation movesets if you're only looking for moves it can know in'''USUM'''? It's already on the species page, you don't need to click on anything else. <br />
::::::::Breeding is a game mechanic. It's as important as TMs and level up moves. The move sections should cover all moves a Pokémon can learn '''through normal gameplay''' in the most '''recent game or generation'''. Transferring isn't '''learning through normal gameplay". Sure, neither are events, but I can look past that because those are generally one time things and should be noted.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 17:39, 16 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::Nescientist didn't ask for moves that could be known "through normal gameplay". He/she/it asked for moves that could be known "by whatever means", which includes transfer as well as normal gameplay. Is this not a valid question to ask? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 18:14, 16 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::Sigh.. Going through it step by step:<br />
::::::::::# I did read your (whole) message.<br />
::::::::::# I did not lie.<br />
::::::::::# I am not looking for a bare minimum. (My question was on "moves Pikachu can know in USUM [by whatever means]".)<br />
::::::::::# What Sumwun said (and everyone, including Sumwun, should be able to see how it is a ''valid'' question to ask).<br />
::::::::::# I am looking through previous movesets because not all moves Pikachu can know in USUM are at [[Pikachu (Pokémon)]]; Mega Kick, for example, isn't. (We've been there before, I mentioned that way up above, even rephrased it repeatedly.)<br />
::::::::::# Yes, I do need to click on something else to check, i.e. all previous movesets (at minimum).<br />
::::::::::# Transfer is a game mechanic.<br />
::::::::::# In my opinion, breeding is not quite as important as TMs and level-up moves, if only because I cannot&mdash;by no means&mdash;teach (an individual) Pokémon I already own its species' Egg Moves. (It's still important, though.)<br />
::::::::::# Finally, a "definition" of what you think move sections should cover: moves Pokémon may ''learn'' through normal gameplay within the generation, plus event moves. I'll just mention that they do already cover more than that, for example how {{p|Cubchoo}} may learn Avalanche in USUM.<br />
::::::::::Beyond that, of course, I can't be of any help to you when you claim that I didn't read your message and outright lied. And, up to this point, I was trying hard. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 20:02, 17 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::::I think the problem with the "outright lie" is that transferring a Pokemon requires 2 games. Nescientist knew that the END game would be US or UM. When Nescientist said he didn't have a game "in mind", he/she/it was referring to the START game, and his/her/its willingness to transfer a Pokemon FROM any game TO US or UM. Nescientist, is this right? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 20:52, 17 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::::Yes, in your words/example, the end game would be USUM, but the start game could be anything (including USUM itself, i.e. no transfer at all). [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 16:42, 18 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::::::Should we bring this discussion to another administrator's talk page? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 17:22, 25 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Need your help ==<br />
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Hi there! Can you please help me with [[User talk:Mikuri#Who's stalking whose edits?|this discussion]]? I am tired of explaining to them that their obsession with having the current revision of a page is more of a hindrance than a help. Aside from the examples I offered in my talk page, you can check GrammarFreak01's latest edits to [[Marian]]'s page. That sentence they edited was perfectly fine as it was, but they changed it for no reason other than being the last person to have edited the page.<br />
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In doing so, they added misleading information because they clearly have no knowledge on the matter, first by saying that Jessie was disguised as Jessedia "at the time", creating a false impression that she disguised as Jessedia on one occasion when in fact this is a recurring disguise Jessie has changed into at least three times, and then by saying she was "briefly disguised". Assuming you don't know, Jessie has appeared as Jessedia for the duration of the entire Kanto Grand Festival and the Wallace Cup's Battle Stage, as well as in DP093 when she was interviewing Fantina.<br />
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This is not what one would call "briefly". This is not a one-time disguise that is blown off by Ash and his friends at the end of the episode. It's a recurring thing, and GrammarFreak01 is apparently unaware of that and changing a sentence that was completely okay with their nonsense just to accomplish their "goal". It's getting tired and I'm asking for help because these are instances in which I got involved, but who knows the amount of wrong information they have added to the tons of pages they edit daily.<br />
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It's frankly discouraging to edit a page only to have its content vandalized (inserting gibberish into pages counts as vandalism, right?) by someone who has no idea what they're doing and are just trying to get the most recent revision of a page. Also, judging by their latest edit to my talk page, they expect me to be some sort of wizard who can see into the future and tell them that their edit is wrong ''before'' they even make it. I don't know how to respond to that and I'm not the only user who has complained about GrammarFreak01's bad editing habits. Something needs to be done about this situation and that's why I'm asking you to intervene. Please help. --[[User:Mikuri|<span style="color:#2b915e;">'''Mi'''</span>]][[User talk: Mikuri|<span style="color:#52cc91;">'''ku'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Mikuri|<span style="color:#8debbc;">'''ri'''</span>]] 15:12, 14 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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:I am well aware of how long Jessie has been disguised as Jessedia and what she used that disguise for. [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Marian&type=revision&diff=2860143&oldid=2860142 The original sentence] in question just did not make sense to me from a grammatical standpoint. Also, for someone who constantly complains about me having a need to "have the current revision of a page", Mikuri has a nasty habit of editing articles hours and even minutes right after me, leading me to assume she is maliciously following me using my edit history. Examples of this are:<br />
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:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Melody_(M02)&action=history Melody (M02)]<br />
:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Maren&action=history Maren]<br />
:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Carol&action=history Carol]<br />
:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Tobias_(M02)&action=history Tobias (M02)]<br />
:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Molly_Hale&action=history Molly Hale]<br />
:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Liza_(Johto)&action=history Liza (Johto)]<br />
:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Oakley&action=history Oakley]<br />
:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Annie_(M05)&action=history Annie (M05)]<br />
:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Ross&action=history Ross]<br />
:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Butler&action=history Butler]<br />
:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Rafe&action=history Rafe]<br />
:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Jack_Walker&action=history Jack Walker]<br />
:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Lugia_(M02)&action=history Lugia (M02)]<br />
:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Entei_(M03)&action=history Entei (M03)]<br />
:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Celebi_(M04)&action=history Celebi (M04)]<br />
:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Suicune_(M04)&action=history Suicune (M04)]<br />
:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Lucario_(M08)&action=history Lucario (M08)]<br />
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:If you've noticed in the edit histories I provided, much of the articles hadn't been edited in months prior to my original edits. Then, when I make an edit, Mikuri follows after, which I find to be a complete contradiction to their complaints about my editing practices. This was also a problem back in June, when I first [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AMikuri&type=revision&diff=2809252&oldid=2808516 confronted Mikuri about it]. The articles in question were:<br />
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:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Lillie_(anime)&offset=20180628163311&action=history Lillie (anime)]<br />
:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Brock%27s_Vulpix&action=history Brock's Vulpix]<br />
:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Matori&offset=20180818063550&action=history Matori]<br />
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:At one point in our argument, I said [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AMikuri&type=revision&diff=2859786&oldid=2859767 this]. I admit that it was poorly worded due to my blinding irritation of the situation (and that I probably should've changed it once I calmed down). But what I was hoping to convey was that if Mikuri had a problem with me trying to hog the latest revision of a page, they should've tried to take it to the talk page sooner, just like what was usually done with me whenever there was a problem.<br />
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:Clearly, this is a problem that has been going on for months now and I would appreciate your mediation. I don't particularly care about any outcome anymore, so fire away. I only ask that this contradiction on Mikuri's part be addressed in some way. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 22:34, 14 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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::I started "maliciously following" GrammarFreak01's edit history '''after''' I noticed they were stalking my edits. Usually after I finished doing a major edit to a page, they would appear to unnecessarily tweak image sizes (something Tiddlywinks has warned them about) or make another one of their pointless edits. I accused them of doing that in some of my edit summaries and they decided to [[User talk:Mikuri#You're being paranoid|come to my talk page]] and call me paranoid. I could provide a laundry list of that, but I don't feel like it's needed. For one, GrammarFreak01's talk page is chock-full of messages telling them to stop with the pointless edits (and some of them were left there by you, Force Fire). In addition, I am not the only user who has complained about their edit stalking habits, as there is a [[User talk:GrammarFreak01#Edit Stalking|message left by PardescanSlowbro]] detailing the exact same behavior.<br />
::In their defense, all GrammarFreak01 had to say is that they receive email notifications after someone edits a page they have edited in the past. So what? This is no excuse to go around and make needless edits only to have the current revision of a page. And that is the main point of this discussion: GrammarFreak01's history of wholly unnecessary edits that add nothing to our pages. Correction: sometimes their edits make the page worse, as they add wrong information about a subject they know nothing about only to have the most recent revision, as was the case with [[Yuzo]]'s page. Their concern isn't quality content and accurate information, but rather an enormous amount of unverified nonsense. I honestly don't care if my revision isn't the current one and I don't have this kind of problem with any other user in this entire wiki, '''unlike GrammarFreak01'''. Several users have contributed to pages I had worked on, and you don't see me complaining about them. But GrammarFreak01 is not here to contribute, they're here to make unnecessary edits.<br />
::So yes, I can admit that I have edited several pages upon seeing one of GrammarFreak01's edits, but I guess this comes as no surprise considering the recent changes are there for everyone to see, and again, this was '''after''' I noticed they were stalking my edits and making unnecessary changes to them. And there's one notable difference: it was never to add information that was untrue about a subject I know nothing about. My point isn't that they are editing after me, but that those edits are needless. Editing a page after another user isn't a blockable offense, but inserting gibberish into pages is, as is edit flood and edit wars, behaviors also exhibited by GrammarFreak01. And I think it is worth comparing our contributions: I usually do a complete overhaul by adding verified information I gathered and uploading high quality images to the Archives, while GrammarFreak01 has a long and documented history of making pointless edits that add no real content to Bulbapedia and edit warring. --[[User:Mikuri|<span style="color:#2b915e;">'''Mi'''</span>]][[User talk: Mikuri|<span style="color:#52cc91;">'''ku'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Mikuri|<span style="color:#8debbc;">'''ri'''</span>]] 00:34, 15 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::If you read the entire discussion, you will see that [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AGrammarFreak01&type=revision&diff=2825193&oldid=2825153 I explained myself and asked PardescanSlowbro for examples] where my edits were unnecessary and clearly malicious. I was happy to address those concerns. But they did not get back to me on that. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 01:25, 15 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== False positive abuse filter triggers ==<br />
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Hello, recently I tried to move a message I misplaced on a user's talk page (see log [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Special:AbuseLog?wpSearchUser=Ozank&wpSearchTitle=&wpSearchWiki= here]) to the bottom where it should have been, but the abuse filter didn't let me. If you want to look into this, feel free. [[User:Ozank|Ozank]] ([[User talk:Ozank|talk]]) 16:43, 17 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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:He already [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:GrammarFreak01#Re:_Heads_up responded to that]. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 17:39, 17 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Yeah, I've already answered this on GrammarFreak's talk page. I think the system may have deemed moving sections (to the proper place) a drastic edit for a new user. Other than that, you should be fine once you've become a member for a period of time.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 06:20, 18 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Mimikyu's name ==<br />
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Hi there, <br />
Since you're the one who placed the warning in Mimikyu's "Name Origin", would you mind giving it a look [[Talk:Mimikyu (Pokémon)#Mimic_.2B_Q_2|here]]? Seeing that talking about it in the talk page was the recommendation, I'd like to discuss about it a little. Thanks. [[User:ExLight|ExLight]] ([[User talk:ExLight|talk]]) 01:46, 20 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Mewtwo's voice actor ==<br />
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I just watched [https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lrTmDZavVVc a video] where it was revealed that the English voice actor of the {{OBP|Mewtwo|original series|original series Mewtwo}} was actually ''not'' Philip Bartlett. That was a stage name, and the Philip Bartlett who died years ago was a completely different person, with the ''real'' English voice actor behind Mewtwo ''and'' the Philip Bartlett stage name being a man named Jay Goede. I feel like this is worth checking into. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 17:22, 20 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Dr._Fuji_(anime)&diff=2200677&oldid=2192996 Judging by this] and [[Talk:M01#Dr. Fuji's voice|this]], it's been acknowledged back in 2014.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 09:38, 22 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Ah. Okay. Sorry. Shouldn't there then be something like a tooltip on Mewtwo's page to indicate that "Philip Bartlett" is just a stage name? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 09:58, 22 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Don't think it's too much of an issue to do so.<br />
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== Troublesome user ==<br />
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Heads up. Clearly [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Special:Contributions/Cheekybutthole this user] is [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Probopass_(Pok%C3%A9mon)&diff=prev&oldid=2868297 not here to contribute]. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 03:26, 24 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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:Never mind, {{U|Abcboy}} took care of it. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 03:41, 24 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== links ==<br />
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is it all right to repeat links from an above section in a lower one. and u know that internal error that was mentioned above? im still getting it. also i couldnt help noticing ur ignoring a poor man's cry for help up above. not a very nice thing to do, wouldnt u say? :) --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 14:16, 31 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:If something has already been linked in a section, it does not need to be linked again. It's fine to have one link per section, '''only if said link isn't directly below the previous section'''. Once every few sections is fine, but not literally the next section below it.<br />
:The internal error issue is being looked into. There has been no updates yet on its progress.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 05:41, 1 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
::so lets say a link keyword is in every section. you'd want it to be linked in every other section? 1st, 3rd, 5th, etc. --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 06:10, 1 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Use common sense. Also, you don't have to link every time the word "Pokémon species", "Pokémon trainer", or whatever appears.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 06:21, 1 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
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==Voice Actors==<br />
Sent you an email with a list of voice actors from Lisa Ortiz, do I have your approval?--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 16:12, 6 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Those are fine to be added.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 05:45, 7 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Statistic ==<br />
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Why did you undo my edit to statistic? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 17:56, 9 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:You're change wasn't necessary. It was basically saying the same thing.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 03:44, 10 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
::I changed "take effect" to "start affecting turn order", which does not mean the same thing. Speed has other effects, such as determining the base power of gyro ball and electro ball, and those other effects immediately respond to changes to speed. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 04:52, 10 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::The full sentence is " will not take effect until the following turn". What you changed it to is still saying that it wont take effect until the next turn.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 05:00, 10 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::What it currently says is false because it implies that changes to speed do not start affecting the power of gyro ball and electro ball until the next turn. What I changed it to is true because it does not imply that. How can they say the same thing if one is false and the other is true? Would it be better if it said, "An in-battle change to a Pokémon's Speed stat will not start affecting turn order until the following turn, but otherwise takes effect immediately"? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 18:49, 10 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::If I might butt in here, if what Sumwun is saying is true (I've not seen any information whether it is or not), then there 'is' a difference between the two, and I think Sumwun's edit should be reinstated. Speed has effect on more things than just turn order, and some might react to changes sooner than others. --[[User:Felthry|Felthry]] ([[User talk:Felthry|talk]]) 18:00, 11 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::Why would you assume the sentence is talking about Gyro Ball or Electro Ball? It clearly isn't. It's talking about when a Pokémon's speed gets changed due to a stat change, it won't take affect until the following turn. Gyro Ball and Electro Ball are not moves that affect the user's speed, but rely on it, it's not going to get affected by a stat changing move.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 05:48, 13 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::Before commenting on the first 2 sentences of that comment, I just wanted to tell you that the last 2 sentences [https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7anythinggoes-834770797 are false]. I will admit that Showdown! is the most reliable battle simulator available to me, and I'm sorry if that's not reliable enough. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 06:51, 13 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::"Simulator", hence why it isn't reliable. You can change things with a simulator.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 07:17, 13 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::The replay was done in "Anything Goes", a standard format that does not change any battle mechanics. Do you still not trust it? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 16:38, 13 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::No.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 16:40, 13 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::::If not a Showdown! replay, what can convince you that changes in speed can take effect immediately? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 18:03, 13 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::Gyro Ball and Electro Ball both depend on the user's speed, right? So why would you expect that changes to the user's speed wouldn't affect those moves? Regardless of whether it "clearly isn't" talking about them as you personally see it, it's better to be precise than to rely on implicit statements. --[[User:Felthry|Felthry]] ([[User talk:Felthry|talk]]) 23:38, 15 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== New Devolution ==<br />
Hello Force Fire, I am a foreigner and reader on the Bulbapedia site. I only created an account in order to discuss a possible Pokémon capable of performing a Devolution, I mean Silvally (Type: Full).<br />
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Since originally this was his original form, however, he involuted to Type: Null after Faba added a helmet to his face, slowing him down. He will only be Silvally again when he destroys the helmet, that is, if it is valid I would like some moderator on the site to add this Pokémon to the article [[Devolution]]. [[User:NanayaShiki07|NanayaShiki07]] ([[User talk:NanayaShiki07|talk]]) 20:07, 10 November 2018 (~)<br />
:Games=/=anime. I personally don't think it counts as anything. I also don't really care, mainly because the whole story behind Silvally and Type: Null, and how the latter is just the former with a helmet. It just unnecessarily makes things confusing and messes the whole concept of evolution in the franchise. So I don't have any strong opinions about this.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 05:48, 13 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== N as a rival ==<br />
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Don't put a message that says "Please do not add N, as he is not a rival" on the page, If you have an argument against it then put it in the talk page! [[User:Nightfall217|Nightfall217]] ([[User talk:Nightfall217|talk]]) 23:48, 12 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:As an administrator I ''can'' place a hidden message telling users what not to do until a consensus has been made.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 05:48, 13 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Leaf Discussion Page == <br />
I noticed you left a note on my userpage telling me not to delete other people's comments. I want to assure you that I have not done so, and in fact had my comments removed twice by other people when they re-formatted the page. --[[User:LavaringX|LavaringX]] ([[User talk:LavaringX|talk]]) 07:16, 18 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Spaceworld Mainspace ==<br />
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Hello, I was wondering if we could start slowly mainspacing some Pokémon Gold and Silver beta information, as the leaked Spaceworld ROM has been around for nearly a half a year now. A lot of the interest for adding this information onto the site has slowed down, and I thought that perhaps if only a little bit of information was added, like, for example, [[User:Celadonkey/Spaceworld/Dex|a list of Pokémon]], [[User:Celadonkey/Spaceworld#Chikorita_.28Pok.C3.A9mon.29.2FBeta|one or two Pokémon articles]], or [[User:Frozen Fennec/Pokémon Gold and Silver Spaceworld Demo|some information on the gameplay]], then maybe it would spur interest and additions to the wiki. --[[User:Celadonkey|Celadonkey]] 16:39, 18 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Spaceworld stuff shouldn't be the priority right now, clearly. The staff still hasn't decided on how to handle this. Please don't think you can just move them without permission.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 16:57, 18 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
::I wasn't going to move it without permission, that's why I asked you. And alright. Please let me know when staff has reached a decision because this is something I am very interested in helping out with --[[User:Celadonkey|Celadonkey]] 17:02, 18 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== I want to turn a redirect into an article for something else, but I don't have the writing skills. ==<br />
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I asked Chosen 5 days ago, but he never responded. I asked Glik earlier today, but unfortunately he doesn't play the game and couldn't help.<br />
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Anyway, there's a substance called R in the game Detective Pikachu, and it's a big part of the game's story. When I went to search its article, it redirects me to the Trainer Tower instead. I am definitely not able to write the article myself (I sucked at Language Arts), but I also don't want to leave the page as this redirect. What can I do? [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 01:24, 20 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Write a stub or incomplete article? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 02:33, 20 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
::You already created a userpage it seems. You can invite others to help flesh out the article. Sadly, I've never played Detective Pikachu, so I wouldn't know much.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 05:58, 20 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Well I did ask Abcboy, as he added the plot into the game's article. Hopefully he responds. *checks edit history* Maybe I'll ask GrammarFreak01 too. Thanks for the advice. [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 16:29, 20 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== [[Sea Cottage]] and [[Trophy Garden]] ==<br />
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Hi there. You recently removed information relating to the Bill's Secret Garden rumour without engaging in discussion first, as I had explicitly requested on the talk pages for those articles. I have provided four different articles regarding Bill's Secret Garden and it's mentioned on numerous fansites, so I'm not sure what further evidence you require. It's an extremely notorious rumour. --[[User:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] [[User talk:Poppy Appletree|:3]] 13:43, 20 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I was in the midst of responding on those talk pages whilst you wrote this.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 13:54, 20 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:: Commenting 20 minutes ''after'' the removals isn't exactly a discussion. --[[User:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] [[User talk:Poppy Appletree|:3]] 13:57, 20 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
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Now that you have hopefully had some time to cool off, can I get you to re-appraise your behaviour? Condescending comments like "learn some patience" and referring to seeking a second opinion as "spamming" staff members do not convey respect to others, and I would appreciate it if you would apologise for these comments. Additionally, I would appreciate if you would acknowledge wrong-doing in burying the list of discussion materials I provided to show the scope of the Secret Garden rumour. Whilst you claim that you were trying to figure out how to add a collapsible section, I am genuinely unsure how I would be expected to intent for something you would not do for another hour. I'd like to encourage you to be more transparent: throughout our interactions yesterday you have seemed to think that I should know what you are doing when you provided no explanation for your actions. <br />
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I'd also like you to acknowledge that jumped the gun in issuing a warning, since you started reverting pages without offering discussion, and I have been actively trying to discuss the issues raised and establish consensus with other users. (For the record, your lone opinion isn't a consensus.) Please consider the effect that such actions will have upon others; if you disregard the views of regular users, that will have a chilling effect upon editing activity. Nobody wants to have their edits reverted immediately and then be insulted by admins, and treating people that way puts them off editing.<br />
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For the record, this isn't the first time you've been insulting towards me: [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:Force_Fire/Archive_3#Reversion_of_my_edit] That was a long time ago, but it's kind of telling that you didn't actually apologise. Perhaps we can try a different resolution this time, where you apologise for your behaviour? --[[user:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] 11:34, 21 November 2018 (UTC)</div>
Poppy Appletree
https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:FinnishPok%C3%A9Fan92/Archive_2&diff=2884126
User talk:FinnishPokéFan92/Archive 2
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<p>Poppy Appletree: /* Trophy Garden edit war */</p>
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<div>'''Archieved talks:''' [[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92/Archive 1]] (archieved on November 5, 2015)<br />
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== XY093 errors ==<br />
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Why did you erase the error section of ''[[XY093|All Eyes on the Future!]]''? You said you disagree with them, but that doesn't make them any less of mistakes. {{m|Light Screen}} was shown protecting the male {{p|Meowstic}} from {{AP|Talonflame}}'s {{m|Flame Charge}} despite Light Screen only reducing damage from Special Attacks, like {{AP|Frogadier}}'s {{m|Water Pulse}}, not from Physical Attacks like Talonflame's Flame Charge. Later on in that episode, when Talonflame used {{m|Steel Wing}} on the male Meowstic, [[Professor Sycamore]] said that Light Screen doesn't work on Physical Attacks like Steel Wing. Later, {{an|Clemont}} claimed that {{a|Prankster}} was making {{m|Helping Hand}} a priority move when Helping Hand is already one to begin with, for Helping Hand always goes first even if the Pokémon using it didn't have Prankster as their ability. {{a|Keen Eye}} only prevents your Pokémon's accuracy from lowering and ignores an opponent's evasive stats. Professor Sycamore claimed that Psyshock was chasing Frogadier and Talonflame because the female Meostic had Keen Eye, but moments ago, you clearly see the Meowstic using Psychic to make the Psyshock go after Ash's Pokémon. That's why these are mistakes. --[[User:PKMNAdventurer|PKMNAdventurer]] ([[User talk:PKMNAdventurer|talk]]) 17:11, 8 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Finally some Colo data ==<br />
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I finally got my rear in gear with some of that [[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92/Archive 1#Colo/XD data|Colo/XD team data]]. I've got Colosseum teams now. [http://www.mediafire.com/download/t6gaudyp6atho2b/ Here's] the file.<br />
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There are some comments in the file. The file is huge... I imagine the easiest thing will be to poke around BP's pages and just search for the right Trainers in the file. If you have any questions about anything, feel free to ask. =) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 05:32, 14 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
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:Thanks a ton! I'll hopefully get on with it later today. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:56, 14 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
::I figured out a couple things I did wrong for that Colosseum data with the gender. Half is BP's Shadow and non-Shadow templates acting a bit differently when the "gender=" parameter is missing, and half is a separate mistake on my part. I'll fix that up later on and update the link above.<br />
::FYI, right now for XD, I've mostly got the story data converted (just testing a few Trainers, and finding things like that gender issue), but XD also has a good amount of data for other modes, which (with the lazy-ish way I'm doing it) will also be a bit of an annoyance to make work (mostly tedious). [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 21:43, 15 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
:::[http://www.mediafire.com/download/ra320pu97afz07x/ XD data]. I've also fixed up the Colosseum data (replaced above; if you wanna check some of the differences, try searching for Entei.)<br />
:::Colosseum's gender data is pretty straightforward, so I think it's OK now, but XD's is less so... For now for XD, I've assumed all Shadow Pokemon have a random gender (so far as they can), and everything else's gender works like I *think* it does. If you're ever in doubt, you can always try to check playthrough videos. I've done that a bit already while testing my output, and where I have, my data was right (and not just for gender; though Abilities can be hard to be sure about). [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 22:09, 17 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
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==Hyperspace Hole==<br />
Did Hoopa literally used Hyperspace Hole in the movie when it was summoning Pokémon? Because someone told me it did. [[User:Seabiscuit2020|Seabiscuit2020]] ([[User talk:Seabiscuit2020|talk]]) 20:21, 17 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
:I doubt it was Hyperspace Hole, since Hoopa Unbound did it too, and it already has four other moves. Remember, the anime has been pretty consistent with the "only four moves at a time" thing over the recent years, so... --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:40, 18 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
::That was Hyperspace Fury. It's Unbound Form doesn't use Hyperspace Hole. Only when it is in its Confined Form.[[User:Seabiscuit2020|Seabiscuit2020]] ([[User talk:Seabiscuit2020|talk]]) 06:45, 18 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
:::I know. That's what I was saying. The rings are just Hoopa's special power. Confined didn't use them as an attack, so it wasn't Hyperspace Hole. Also, Unbound used its rings the same way too, so it can't be that move. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 14:56, 18 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
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==Clemont's Inventions==<br />
Can you add the information of Clemont's inventions from [[XY088]] and [[XY089]], please? -- [[User:Seabiscuit2020|Seabiscuit2020]] ([[User talk:Seabiscuit2020|talk]]) 22:10, 22 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Old Amber ==<br />
I don't understand why there's no need for that. In gen. I there weren't key items, and it doesnt say so in the text. ( first time: 8 November 2015 9:33:45 (UTC)) [[User:Lokki|Lokki]] ([[User talk:Lokki|talk]]) 20:04, 23 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Items! ==<br />
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I just want to go into a bit more detail about why I like the order I wrote on [[Dewford Town]]. I can certainly understand reasons for liking other orderings, and it's hard to say what may be "always" best, so I think there's definitely room for discussion. =)<br />
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1) I don't think there should be any "separation" of the games (which I'm just guessing is the reason you put the Ribbon last on Dewford). I.e., I really don't like the idea of putting all the items that first appeared in RS first, then all the items that appeared in E (but not RS), then all the items that appeared in ORAS (but not RSE) (or whatever games). That's just confusing as hell in longer lists.<br />
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2) I think items should be listed by an order of traversal. Basically, pick something that at least makes ''some'' (consistent) sense, and stick to it. Basically, N to S then E to W, or E to W then N to S, or... Anyway, this one I'm kind of taking on a case-by-case, "how do I feel" sort of basis. Currently, I'm not entirely sure if it should ''very strictly'' obey the location's natural traversal (like, you first enter from N/S/E/W, so that's where the list should start), or if maybe it should always be "reading" order (left>right (E>W), top>bottom (N>S)), or what.<br />
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2b) I'm a little torn on whether accessibility requirements should affect the order things are listed in. I.e., when you first reach some places, you may not have an HM that will let you get some of the items, so any of those that you'd have to return for could be listed after all of the things you can get immediately. ...The thing that kind of tilts my opinion in this case is that, if you don't grab any items at first and only scour the town after you have all necessary HMs (like in the postgame), then a single, coherent listing of all the items is best, otherwise you may be forced to backtrack a bit for an item that needs an HM. And at the same time, with a single, coherent list, people who are only on their first visit can easily just skip those items they can't get.<br />
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These things basically seem best and simplest/most consistent all around, to me. (And simple is best. Less room for arguments; or confusion.)<br />
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(Hope all that's not too wall-of-texty... =P ) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 16:19, 6 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Aero ==<br />
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hey! How are you? :) You must know that your page was chosen to be the official [[Aero]] one. I just happen to have worked on it too ( [[User:MannedTooth/Aero]]) and wondered if there is anything you would like to add to yours? I'm thinking of the Giovanni part, since Aero technically was owned by him before Red. Anyway, take a look at that :) [[User:MannedTooth|<span style="color:#FF8000"> MannedTooth </span>]] ([[User_Talk:MannedTooth|Talk]]) 15:12, 7 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== XYZ ==<br />
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Can you add the Finnish/Swedish name origins for [[Squishy]] and lyrics/translations for [[Stand Tall]] to the [[List of Finnish Pokémon themes]] and [[List of Swedish Pokémon themes]]? Thanks! --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 04:02, 13 May 2016 (UTC)<br />
:I'd be pleased to do so if I knew where to watch those XYZ episodes. I didn't even know they had Finnish titles until just now to be honest. The previous season ended just last week or so. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 04:09, 13 May 2016 (UTC)<br />
::http://www.pokemon.com/fi/pokemon-jaksot/ and http://www.pokemon.com/se/pokemon-avsnitt/ --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 04:18, 13 May 2016 (UTC)<br />
:::Thanks! I'll get to work on them tomorrow, I am unable to watch them just now. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 04:39, 13 May 2016 (UTC)<br />
::::Also, when you get around to adding the lyrics, the titles of the songs need to go on [[Stand Tall]] in the "In other languages" section; I forgot to mention that earlier. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 17:46, 14 May 2016 (UTC)<br />
:::::Of course. I'll keep that in mind. Also, I kinda forgot to do that today, so I'll try to remember it tomorrow. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 18:02, 14 May 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Lyrics problem ==<br />
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Hello, I don't know how much Swedish you speak but I was wondering if you could take a look at Bli en hjälte and Pokémonsången XY because I can't make out the two dotted lines I left at Bli en hjälte and also the question mark at Pokémonsången XY. I'm afraid that I couldn't find Bli en hjälte on youtube, I listened to that at tv4 play, [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODba6H8vVJs&list=PL-mKIkFm-cVXWMv4Nmb_S1c9uzx1glO9E&index=3&nohtml5=False here is the link to Pokémonsången XY movie version at youtube]. Tack på förhand. --[[User:Raltseye|<span style="color:#FF6464">R</span><span style="color:#11BB11">alts</span>]][[User talk:Raltseye|<span style="color:#6890F0">e</span><span style="color:#6464FF">y</span><span style="color:#6890F0">e</span>]] 19:28, 3 June 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Stadium 2 Trainers ==<br />
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First of all, thanks for working on getting the details for the trainers in each cup, I at least really appreciate it. :) Do you have any plans to continue with work on the Gym Leader Castle trainers? Currently all of the more detailed information is scattered over about two dozen pages, and only the Gym Leaders and Rocket Executives have any detailed data. The same thing is the case for Stadium 1's GLC as well. If you weren't planning on doing anything with them, I'd probably get to it eventually, but I thought I'd check in with you first. [[User:VioletPumpkin|VioletPumpkin]] ([[User talk:VioletPumpkin|talk]]) 02:00, 21 June 2016 (UTC)<br />
:First of all, thanks for the compliment. Second, no I wasn't planning on doing anything with the GLC Trainers. Much like core series Gym Trainers, I don't think they really need any detailed info, at least not on the Gym pages. If there are separate pages for GLC Trainers, I can reconsider. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 08:09, 21 June 2016 (UTC)<br>PS. The only Cup thing that I haven't been able to completely add was the Jr. female's Squirtle's moveset in Stadium's [[Fancy Cup|Petit Cup]] Round 2. Any source material I could find incorrectly listed its moveset as the same used by the same Trainer's Meowth in Round 1, which is why it was initially missing from the otherwise already completed Trainer list for the Cup. By watching several videos, I was able to figure out three of Squirtle's moves, but the fourth one is still unknown to me. I hate incompleteness, so I'd really appreciate any kind of help. Thank you.<br />
::I understand, and agree that putting them onto the general "Pewter Gym" and similar pages might be a bit much. I'll probably try making dedicated GLC trainer pages since it feels at least as significant as the other cups to me, but I'm not sure when I'd get around to it. And thanks for the notice about the Squirtle, I'll take a closer look at it. [[User:VioletPumpkin|VioletPumpkin]] ([[User talk:VioletPumpkin|talk]]) 15:55, 22 June 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Colo/XD script (Miror B) ==<br />
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In response to [[Special:Diff/2469466|this]] lament for Miror B's quotes, you could try checking the {{DL|User:Abcboy|text dumps}} I made for Colo/XD linked on Abcboy's userpage. If you can identify enough of the quote, you can probably get the rest of what came after it. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 12:02, 10 July 2016 (UTC)<br />
:Thanks a ton! I more than appreciate your gesture! :D --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 12:14, 10 July 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Anime edits ==<br />
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Hi! Playerking95 [[User talk:Playerking95#About unnecessary edits|seems to think]] that you've been targetting him/his edits. I'd like to ask you to describe your perspective on this situation. (Please understand I make no judgement either way at this point.)<br />
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Thanks. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 14:52, 4 August 2016 (UTC)<br />
:(P.S. I'm asking you do it here rather than respond at Playerking's talk page. It could "explode" either way, but it's a bit less likely if we keep this part here for now. Thanks.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 14:53, 4 August 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== New episodes ==<br />
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In the future, please use {{template|New episode}} when creating pages for new episodes. It's fine to make another edit after substituting the template to change anything the template doesn't fill in. This prevents errors like incorrect preview threads, incorrect ordinal numbers in the intro, allows the interwiki links to be automatically generated, and helps prevent other copy-and-paste errors. Thanks! --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 15:36, 6 August 2016 (UTC)<br />
:Thanks. I had kinda forgotten that. I'll keep that in mind. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 16:00, 6 August 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Swimming to Kalos ==<br />
How on earth could that be interpreted as not the same person? A person in a game says he will do the exact same action as someone in a different game has completed, within the same generation, when we know ORAS is set before XY and has references which say as much, and it's the same trainer class, but they're different people? I legitimately dont understand how one could come to that conclusion. [[User:Smear-Gel|Smear-Gel]] ([[User talk:Smear-Gel|talk]]) 05:11, 1 September 2016 (UTC)<br />
:How about the fact that they '''don't even have the same name?''' Word that piece of trivia a bit differently, and the only thing left to fix are possible grammar errors. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 12:46, 1 September 2016 (UTC)<br />
::Well that's dumb, I didnt even consider they'd do that. Now I wonder why on earth Gamefreak would have put that effort into that easter egg and then make the names different. Not even the Japanese names are the same? Because that seems silly. Either way I guess I need to look into that and reword it before posting again. [[User:Smear-Gel|Smear-Gel]] ([[User talk:Smear-Gel|talk]]) 22:26, 1 September 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Deoxys ==<br />
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Did Deoxys use Safeguard or Protect in PG09? And did Deoxys use Recover when it regenerated itself? [[User:Seabiscuit2020|Seabiscuit2020]] ([[User talk:Seabiscuit2020|talk]]) 20:08, 28 October 2016 (UTC)<br />
:First off: I'm surprised you thought of ME of all people when deciding to ask someone. Second: I think it was Protect, but I don't think it used Recover. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 20:13, 28 October 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Edit Summaries (again) ==<br />
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You've been spoken to before about using edit summaries to vent/complain about other users in the past. Edit summaries like [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Pok%C3%A9_Ball&curid=759&diff=2526760&oldid=2526478 these] are unnecessary and does nothing to contribute to the overall project of Bulbapedia. Follow the {{bp|Code of Conduct}} at all times. Thank you. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">--Pokemaster</span>]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">97</span>]]''''' 23:44, 29 October 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Heatran ==<br />
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What moves did Heatran use in PG12? One of which looked like Protect while the first one looked like either Flamethrower or Eruption. [[User:Seabiscuit2020|Seabiscuit2020]] ([[User talk:Seabiscuit2020|talk]]) 19:43, 5 December 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Heatran and Mimikyu ==<br />
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What moves did Heatran use in PG12? One of which looked like Protect while the first one looked like either Flamethrower or Eruption. And was Mimikyu using Feint Attack or Wood Hammer in SM003? [[User:Seabiscuit2020|Seabiscuit2020]] ([[User talk:Seabiscuit2020|talk]]) 20:19, 8 December 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Trainer classes ==<br />
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It seems to me that if old information on Plasma and Flare is wrong, we should be correcting that rather than citing it as a justification for maintaining false information on Skull, don't you think? [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 20:14, 10 February 2017 (UTC)<br />
:Are you going to answer me? [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 15:51, 20 February 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Edit warring ==<br />
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I just wanna let you know part of my own personal definition of edit warring. IMO, if you revert (basically) the same edit up to two times, that may or may not be edit warring, depending on the overall situation. But if you do it a third time, that's definitely crossed a line.<br />
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That's certainly not to say that toeing that line every time would be advisable or anything. If you can settle a conflict with discussion sooner rather than later, that's definitely preferable. And you've been around long enough. You definitely should know to use talk pages for this sort of thing, rather than trying to do it all right on [[Gladion]]. Please take more care in the future. Thanks. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 22:27, 10 February 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Electric Terrain ==<br />
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The dub CCs state explicitly that Tapu Koko used the move Electric Terrain. Unless there's explicit evidence to the contrary (like if a character states that the Electric Terrain in SM002 was a result of its Ability) it should be kept on the page. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 18:17, 23 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Playthroughs in your userspace ==<br />
Hi!<br />
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I really like your playthrough section and would like to use your code to list my playthroughs in my userpage. Is that okay? [[User:Arctic|Arctic]] ([[User talk:Arctic|talk]]) 19:40, 3 May 2017 (UTC)<br />
:Of course. Go ahead. It's not like I'm the only person who's using it to begin with. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 04:19, 4 May 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Anime moves ==<br />
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It looks like you [[Special:Diff/2635947|recently added]] some moves that Playerking removed. I just want to make sure our policy on adding moves from the anime is clear: unless the move is called (or else explicitly identified after being used), don't assume.<br />
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The only moves it's tentatively acceptable to identify by animation alone are the ones listed [[User:Force Fire/List of moves with unique animations|here]]. Honestly, I don't know the scenes in question, and Hyper Beam is on that list so I don't know what to say about that; but Bite isn't.<br />
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Anyway, please keep this in mind when adding moves for the anime in the future. Thanks! [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 14:15, 4 May 2017 (UTC)<br />
:[[Special:Diff/2663846|Please remember]] the above. If you think Hydro Pump has a unique animation, consider bringing it up on the talk page Force Fire's user page. Please be careful as well about generally engaging in edit wars.<br />
:I don't think this guideline is all that hard to grasp. Please remember next time. Thanks. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 14:59, 6 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
::[[Special:Diff/2678822|This thing]] with Thunder Wave seems to be the exact same situation as Hydro Pump just above. It's been a little while since then so I'm going to remind you this once more, but if it happens again, as far as I'm concerned you will be earning a block to help you remember afterwards. If a move is not stated explicitly, do not add it; at most, ask someone. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 17:10, 17 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::''(The resposne below is technically copied from [[Special:Diff/2678964|here]].)''<br />
:::I'm sorry if I seemed arrogant or whatever by adding that {{m|Thunder Wave}} use. However, I would like to assure you that I've learned my lesson: I don't add too ambiguous moves without them being confirmed anymore. However, this case wasn't ambiguous at all in my mind: the animation used for the move was identical to the one used in the {{series|XY}}, you can check it out yourself if you want. A couple other users have also already left agreeing opinions to T-Wave's talk page. Do you give me the permission to restore my edit? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 04:30, 18 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::Please keep conversations in one place.<br />
::::In case it wasn't clear after all, this isn't about adding moves that are "too ambiguous". This is about adding moves that are ''not explicitly stated''. If such a move is not on Force Fire's user page, don't add it. Neither Hydro Pump nor Thunder Wave were on that page. You're welcome to ask, but it's not your judgement to make. Ask. Always ask.<br />
::::Thanks. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 05:48, 18 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::::The point my friend is trying to make is that Thunder Wave is a completely unique animation and, without a doubt, SHOULD be added to Force Fire's page. [[User:05308|<font color="blue">Diamond</font>]] [[Lanturn (Pokémon)|<font color="yellow">Lanturn</font>]] [[User talk:05308|<font color="red">CodeName: 05308</font>]] 09:43, 18 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::::For Tiddlywinks: That sounds pretty complicated. I recall that it hasn't always been like that, which is probably why I'm having tough times adapting to this way of doing things. Also, I think that having to wait for an agreement on any unspoken move or Ability's identity sounds really boring, and it feels to me like a legit fact is being withheld from the site for no good reason. But it seems I have no choice but to submit...<br><br />
::::::For 05308: Yeah, I agree that it should be done ASAP.<br />
::::::PS. Sorry for rambling. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 11:12, 18 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::::::I understand your point, 05308; it's still ''your'' opinion and not your decision to make. I hope you follow the same guidelines: ask. Thanks. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 15:34, 18 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::::::Hol on a minute, is a "point" or an "opinion"- the animation for Thunder Wave that has been used throughout the XY series (And now in the Sun and Moon series) IS a unique animation. That is a fact and not an opinion. Even if you want to argue that what Murkrow used was Upproar, and the animation was (for some reason) exactly the same as Thunder Wave's animation in XY. Thunder Wave's animation in XY was factually unique. Force Fire has acknowledged the list is unfinished so Thunder Wave's absence from the list is not invocative of Thunder Wave not having a unique animation. Don't patronize me with nonsense about everything being an opinion. Thunder Wave should be on the list for its XY (and SM) animation- that's not an opinion. [[User:05308|<font color="blue">Diamond</font>]] [[Lanturn (Pokémon)|<font color="yellow">Lanturn</font>]] [[User talk:05308|<font color="red">CodeName: 05308</font>]] 19:38, 18 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::''It's not your judgement to make''.<br />
:::::::::If we just go, sure, we're sure you're right, then we have to allow anyone's opinion about anything. We're not opening that can of worms or we'll just have basically the same as we did before and/or more edit wars.<br />
:::::::::This isn't hard: just ask. I hope you understand. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 19:56, 18 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::If I may intrude, 05308, I think Tiddlywinks' point that you aren't understanding is that because it's not on the list ''yet'', we must wait until it has been added to the list ''before'' we can add it based on appearance. It's not about whether Thunder Wave might or might not be something else, it's about jumping through the proper hoops even with things you think are "obvious" so that there isn't a precedent for cutting corners in the future when someone decides something else is "obvious" and gets it wrong. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 21:37, 18 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
I absolutely understand the thing about not assuming moves and all that comes with it- I don't always agree but whatever. However, Thunder Wave did have a unique animation in XY- that is a fact and not an opinion. I don't care what you put on any of the pages, but opinions and facts are different. If being an admin means you'll not admit you're wrong even at the expense of showing you can understand very simple concepts- you are not doing a good job. <br />
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I apologise that all this has to happen on FinnishPokéfan's page. [[User:05308|<font color="blue">Diamond</font>]] [[Lanturn (Pokémon)|<font color="yellow">Lanturn</font>]] [[User talk:05308|<font color="red">CodeName: 05308</font>]] 22:03, 18 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
:Come on... Look. I'm not saying Thunder Wave isn't a unique move&mdash;I'm not making any judgement on that score. Okay? I'm saying your judgement doesn't decide whether it can be added as "unique". I hope you understand. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 22:51, 18 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
::I understand, I've understood since before I interjected into to conversation, but you keep saying "I hope you understand" and that makes it look like I don't understand. Please stop. By the by, I realise what I said about "simple concepts" would come across quite rude so I apologise for that. [[User:05308|<font color="blue">Diamond</font>]] [[Lanturn (Pokémon)|<font color="yellow">Lanturn</font>]] [[User talk:05308|<font color="red">CodeName: 05308</font>]] 23:04, 18 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::I feel pretty safe in saying that "I hope you understand" doesn't usually mean literally understand the concepts; it usually means more like "I hope you understand where we're coming from (and can accept it)"... I'm not trying to belittle you, I'm trying to be polite. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 23:24, 18 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::Bureaucracy at its finest. ''Nothing'' goes ''anywhere'' without first being signed in triplicate, sent in, sent back, queried, lost, found, subjected to public inquiry, lost again, and finally buried in soft peat for three months and recycled as firelighters. This is honestly getting kinda ridiculous. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:43, 19 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Image ==<br />
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I removed the image because out of all the Sun&Moon capture episodes, this was the only one to have it. I thought that images were not suppose to go there.-- --[[User:Handmaiden 101|<span style="color:red">Handmaiden 101</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:Handmaiden 101|<span style="color:red">tAlk</span>]])''</small> 18:29, 6 May 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Cleanup ==<br />
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Noticed a few episodes I have created synopsis' for have received a cleanup requirement, any advice on how to clean it up, checked the manual but can't quite understand in relation to my synopsis'--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 15:04, 10 May 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Code of Conduct ==<br />
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Over the last several years, you've had many talk page message left by various staff members about following the Code of Conduct and remaining respectful in edit summaries. As you [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=List_of_Sun_%26_Moon_series_episodes&curid=217082&diff=2664255&oldid=2664243 demonstrated here] this message hasn't reached you. I understand you may disagree or have conflicts with other users, but behavior of this nature creates a very abrasive and non-inviting atmosphere on Bulbapedia. Please take 3 days off and when you return, make it an effort to be more conscious of our policies. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">--Pokemaster</span>]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">97</span>]]''''' 21:29, 7 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Conduct ==<br />
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In [[Special:Diff/2669087|your recent comment]] to Playerking, you appear to have tried to avoid directly insulting Playerking, but you quite failed. You did not at all need that line before the "PS". Attempting to disclaim it at the end doesn't make it "OK", it's still an insult. Be careful about how your passions sway you in the future. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 13:49, 20 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
:My apologies. I guess since I was having a sort of bad mood at the moment (walking outside in a rain and so forth) I wanted to vent that bad mood into that insult. But I fully admit, it was inappropriate, and I apologize. I tried to avoid being rude, but it seems I didn't quite make it all the way through. I promise I'll do my best to avoid this in the future. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 14:08, 20 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Edit Warring ==<br />
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Rather than [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Kiawe%27s_Marowak&diff=2670213&oldid=2670210 complaining about it in the edit summary], try using the talk pages to sort out issues. They are there for a reason. You've been here long enough to know not to edit war. Regarding the trivia, you're stretching the trivia too far to make it notable.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#F1912B">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#F6B775">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#5599CA">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#90BDDC">ire</span>]] 14:59, 22 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Talk pages ==<br />
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Rather than trying to sort out disagreements using the edit summaries, go to the user's talk page and discuss it there. Going back and forth in the edit summaries is a futile attempt and comes off as edit warring. Thank you.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#F1912B">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#F6B775">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#5599CA">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#90BDDC">ire</span>]] 03:36, 28 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Direct linking ==<br />
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I'm not gonna try to argue with you because it's clear you won't listen. But I just want to ask you this: what is the point of the staff ruling on something if you're just going to ignore the ruling and say you "don't care" about it? [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 16:29, 25 September 2017 (UTC)<br />
:Sorry, that's just how I can be when I'm in a grumpy. I know it doesn't justify anything, and I apologize. I just get irritated when I see redirect links being added on purpose. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 16:34, 25 September 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== DJ Leo ==<br />
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Were the Dugtrio's names the same in the Finnish dub as in the English? --[[User:Raltseye|<span style="color:#FF6464">R</span><span style="color:#11BB11">alts</span><span style="color:#6464FF">eye</span>]] [[User talk:Raltseye|prata med mej]] 15:30, 28 October 2017 (UTC)<br />
:Nope. They're the same as the Swedish ones. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 16:56, 28 October 2017 (UTC)<br />
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==Hey==<br />
Goes without saying, I'm glad that Bulbapedia is unlocked once more--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 09:58, 4 January 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Agreed. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 10:00, 4 January 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== hello ==<br />
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Hello, well, I'm new to the page and I wanted to know what is the error of my grammar, I do not see anything wrong, I just wanted to know what are the mistakes friend.<br />
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--[[User:Grizzlyring123|Grizzlyring123]] ([[User talk:Grizzlyring123|talk]]) 11:47, 7 January 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Sorry if this sounds harsh, but your grammar is unsuitable for Bulbapedia's standards. Not using big capital letters when needed is just one of your many problems. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:51, 8 January 2018 (UTC)<br />
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Well, I'm sorry, my English is not so good, but I can fix it<br />
--[[User:Grizzlyring123|Grizzlyring123]] ([[User talk:Grizzlyring123|talk]]) 11:47, 7 January 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Help please ==<br />
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I would like to be able to edit my profile, but since I am a user I can not do it and it is frustrating. How can I change user to another rank? I want to edit my profile.<br />
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I've seen other people if they can<br />
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--Grizzlyring123 (talk) 12:16, 8 January 2018 (UTC)<br />
:If you want to edit your user page, just click the red link on your user name. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 06:18, 8 January 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Finnish name ==<br />
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I'm sort of iffy on this one, could you check if it adds up? [[Special:diff/2734483]] --[[User:Raltseye|<span style="color:#FF6464">R</span><span style="color:#11BB11">alts</span><span style="color:#6464FF">eye</span>]] [[User talk:Raltseye|prata med mej]] 13:11, 22 January 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Yeah, that wasn't right at all. Thanks for asking. Also, it's just a direct translation of "Repel" instead of "Max Repel", so I took the liberty of removing it from that page. If you wish for me to add the correct translation to [[Repel]]'s page, I can gladly do that. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 14:05, 22 January 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Yeah, why not? The Swedish and Danish are litterally both just "Insect spray" anyway, I'll move them too. --[[User:Raltseye|<span style="color:#FF6464">R</span><span style="color:#11BB11">alts</span><span style="color:#6464FF">eye</span>]] [[User talk:Raltseye|prata med mej]] 16:15, 22 January 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Update Snap Articuno ==<br />
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Hi,<br />
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https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Articuno_(Fossil_2)&diff=0&oldid=2737190<br />
The information on the trivia section is incorrect as the card will have the SNAP writing on the bottom as seen on a copy I have recently purchase from Japan - https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/m224480649<br />
This is misinformation from the old pokemon book which had the wrong scans inside it which didnt have the writing on 3 of the card Squirtle, Charmander and Articuno. I had purchased a squirtle and charmander S~nap promo and forwarded scans for you to update a couple months back and will do the same once the articuno is in my hands. Il send the scans through the discord server as last time.<br />
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https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:CharmanderSnapBestPhotoContest.jpg /https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:SquirtleSnapBestPhotoContest.jpg As you can see I provided the scans for both of the updated images.<br />
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Any problems and information you require just let me know.<br />
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[[User:Onlycollectables|Onlycollectables]] ([[User talk:Onlycollectables|talk]]) 12:37, 29 January 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Edit summaries ==<br />
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Could you please stop with the semi-aggressive edit summaries, like the "Please" and "No, no, no" that you commonly do. If you have a problem with someone's reading and writing skills, you can go to the user's talk page and correct them on their errors. Do understand that there are some users who first language is not English, so errors are bound to appear. Thank you.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#F1912B">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#F6B775">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#5599CA">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#90BDDC">ire</span>]] 04:20, 16 February 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Bone Rush edit ==<br />
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I apologize, I was looking at the wrong section. That said, I think the 'Incomplete' tag belongs in the 'In other generations' section, as that is where the Gen VI image is missing from {{unsigned|Bg samm}}<br />
:I can understand that. Just be careful not to make this kind of mistakes in the future. Also, don't forget to sign your comments on talk pages. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:03, 2 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Item availability ==<br />
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I'd argue that since Po Town is only accessible in Sun, Moon, Ultra Sun, and Ultra Moon(as of right now), someone would know that an item is available in all those versions without it having to be stated outright.--[[User:Voltdetector|Voltdetector]] ([[User talk:Voltdetector|talk]]) 13:08, 17 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I was merely trying to avoid confusion, so that people don't mistake that the note saying "USUM" would be referring to ''both'' items, instead of just the latter. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 13:20, 17 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
::You could simply put the Team Skull Cap first, I feel that could resolve the problem just as well.--[[User:Voltdetector|Voltdetector]] ([[User talk:Voltdetector|talk]]) 03:04, 18 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Platinum's Froslass ==<br />
Do you want [[User:FinnishPokéFan92/Platinum's Froslass]] to be mainspaced? If so ask [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] to do it. I'll also stop creating redirect links. [[User:Reinhartmax|Reinhartmax]] ([[User talk:Reinhartmax|talk]]) 11:53, 20 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Thanks. I'll do so. And thanks for hearing me out. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 11:56, 20 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Do you plan on asking him anytime soon? [[User:Reinhartmax|Reinhartmax]] ([[User talk:Reinhartmax|talk]]) 18:57, 25 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::I meant to ask during the weekend, but forgot. I'll get to it at some point, I haven't forgotten about it. Don't worry. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:03, 26 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Undoing linking edits ==<br />
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We were talking about this before, and as far as I'm concerned, my conclusion was to respect you and your position even though I don't really understand all of it. And because you do have a point that, at any specific point in time, {{template|DL}}s are typically better than redirect links, I've refrained from going to any page in order to only change links there when I have no intention to create the item article(s) myself soonish. It's just a matter of time, though, since all (regular) items are going to receive independent articles in the near future (hopefully). Not sure if you knew this, but now you do, please be aware that I don't really see the point in changing links to future articles back to DLs as adamantly as you have done. That's essentially two extra edits (and I'm trying to minimize edits), and more future work.<br />
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To answer [[Special:Diff/2754146|your specific question]]: I've asked a staff member who has the appropriate powers to mainspace articles on both "Bottle Cap" and "Gold Bottle Cap" that already exist in the userspace. You will see my motivation when you think of what would happen if these are mainspaced ''before'' the links are changed: text that says "Gold Bottle Cap" would link to a page that does not cover "Gold Bottle Cap", and that's to be avoided. (And I didn't look for pages with only <code><nowiki>{{DL|Bottle Cap|Bottle Cap}}</nowiki></code> but without <code><nowiki>{{DL|Bottle Cap|Gold Bottle Cap}}</nowiki></code>, because the first one technically ''can'' be changed later, which I understand you prefer.)<br />
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So, please, try to not only see your position, and try to avoid edit wars, for I can assure you I try to do the same. If any of ''my'' edits are of serious concern, I will probably have a reason, and some others probably have, too. And before anything else, please don't just undo, and don't undo and ask for clarification in the edit summary; I know you know where my talk page is. Thanks! [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 16:33, 20 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
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:I've had some (kinda sorta) paperwork to do today, so I'm going to be brief here: I apologize for my apparent selfishness. It's a trait I have that is not intentional, and I didn't mean to offend you. I understand now. Thanks for explaining. (PS. I had kinda already forgotten about this whole thing already, in fact, so this came just a little bit out of the blue.) --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 16:39, 20 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
::You're welcome, and thanks for understanding. (I wasn't offended anyway, there's no hard feelings.) [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 16:45, 20 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Good. No hard feelings on either side. Let's hope you'll get those item pages done soon. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 16:48, 20 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Violet City ==<br />
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Why are you continually undoing changes that make the page more accurate and precise? Retrogression = Evil, are you trying to be evil?<br />
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[[User:Monsterhart|monsterhart]] ([[User talk:Monsterhart|talk]]) 09:54, 5 April 2018 (PT)<br />
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In the future if you notice a formatting error in 1 part of a multipart edit where the other part(s) are simply corrections to text, edit the page and fix the formatting of that one part. Don't just undo the entire edit, leave it alone and let someone else fix it if you don't feel like fixing the mistake properly. I eventually figured out the mistake and fixed it myself anyway. <br />
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[[User:Monsterhart|monsterhart]] ([[User talk:Monsterhart|talk]]) 10:57, 5 April 2018 (PT)<br />
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:1) Whoa! That's a bit too much. There's no reason to be rude. 2) Except that you didn't. You only added one item instead of the complete Rock Smash item list. However, I ''do'' thank you for noticing that Violet City had a smashable rock which Bulbapedia had forgotten to mention. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 06:20, 6 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
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::1) Why didn’t you answer my question? How is it too much to ask if your intention is to hurt the website rather than improve it? And is it considered rude to ask someones intentions now? Where I’m from asking someones intentions is how issues are resolved and thus is seen as a sign of maturity, not rudeness. <br />
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::2) Except that I did, which you know because in your most recent edit in order to worsen the grammar you edited the same thing which was the other thing I had edited. I changed it from “On the grey island...” to “In the upper left of the grey island...” which I made to improve the website after spending a significant amount of time searching the entire island and it being in the last place I looked. You were undoing this the entire time too, and it shows you what has been changed so I don’t understand how you could have actually missed it and assume you are just lying for some reason... Further more you changed it to “On the upper left side of the small grey island...” which adds an unnecessary word (more reading without improved clarity is a detriment) and changes a correct word to an incorrect one. Though in your defense that is a common mistake for ESL learners, at least I’m assuming Finnish is your first language. <br />
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::So why would you undo that? In my second message and on I then knew you were undoing it because of the rock smash thing but I didn’t know that at the time I wrote the first message. Also I’ve played HG twice and SS once and all 3 times I found a Heart Scale in that exact rock, so I assumed it was a permanent fixture rather than just a random event. <br />
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::So the only reason I was able to imagine that you would be undoing my post is because you wanted the website to not progress, but instead of just reporting you I did the mature thing in recognizing that it could be for some practical reason I was unable to imagine and asked you in the most concise way I could think of (because people on the internet vehemently insist on conciseness 99.9% of the time) if what I thought was truly the case or if you had some other reason for it. Which it turns out you did have a good reason, at least for part of it. You’ve yet to give me a good reason for why you were also undoing my clarity change for that specific item though.<br />
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::[[User:Monsterhart|monsterhart]] ([[User talk:Monsterhart|talk]]) 10:27, 6 April 2018 (PT)<br />
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:::I'll be as brief as possible with my answer: I'm not trying to be evil or prevent this site from progressing, quite the opposite, in fact. I'm merely trying to keep the quality as close to Bulbapedia's standards as possible. And you can see that your most recent edit on the page was reversed by one of the higher-ranking members of this site, meaning that you may have to broaden your views on how to improve this site. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 17:47, 6 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
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::::He clearly did that to be offensive. He was flaunting his authority in order to punish me for “attacking” you (as he stated on my talk page) even though I clearly did not do that. Such a thing is an abuse of power and does not mean that I was wrong about this.<br />
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::::Edit: However I do feel that the situation on the Violet City page between the two of us is more or less resolved, and no longer feel the need to further discuss it with you. If you really were offended by the wording of my initial question I apologize, that was not my intention. My intention was to express my perspective on your actions and give you the opportunity to present an alternative possibility, so as to lead to the resolution of the “undo war” between us which was indeed the result. <br />
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::::[[User:Monsterhart|monsterhart]] ([[User talk:Monsterhart|talk]]) 11:44, 6 April 2018 (PT)<br />
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== SM052 Complaint ==<br />
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"Not good enough for Bulbapedia's standards"? Dude, I left that incomplete stub tag there for a reason. The plot was still incomplete. I was gonna go back to add more and you went and deleted it entirely, all because it's not good enough for Bulbapedia's standards? How could the plot I put in, which was incomplete as the stub stated, be not good enough for Bulbapedia's standards? You have to be more specific than that, or do you insist the plot remains blank until its fully complete? You sir, have no disrespect for those who were just trying to help. Now thanks to you, I lost motivation to work on that page. [[User:Char89|Char89]] ([[User talk:Char89|talk]]) 05:16, 21 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Whoa! No need to be aggressive! Just leaving the synopsis temporarily incomplete wasn't the problem. (I've done some synopsises in bits myself, too.) The problem was your grammar. ''That'' was the thing I felt wasn't up to code. Sorry. I know you want to help, but if your help isn't good enough, it will just take other users' time in fixing it. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:21, 21 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
::My grammar? You mean to tell me, the plot I've written on that page was deleted because of my grammar? What are you, an English teacher? What the heck's wrong with my grammar that causes you to delete it? And don't think I don't notice the other complaints you've been receiving. I've seen users upset with you because you delete their edits because of "Bulbapedia's standards." If it violates the standards, then let the admins handle it. You're making a bad reputation for yourself by being the grammar nazi here. I was only trying to contribute to the wiki, but instead you undo my edit saying my grammar is bad. What a waste of my time. Listen, if you don't stop deleting pages because it doesn't meet the standards, sooner or later someone will report you to the admin. You want to talk grammar, here's something. "Synopsises" is not even a real word. [[User:Char89|Char89]] ([[User talk:Char89|talk]]) 05:39, 21 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Core Series games Quotes ==<br />
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I'm currently doing a overhaul of all the quotes for NPCs for all core series games from Kanto to Alola. For Colress, the line for Route 8 after becoming the Champion "Genesect is a..." only happens when a player selects "I don't", and not for "I do!". And last time, we have decided against bold-ing the words in a "scream" speech balloon. As for the linking of references to other characters or items, I'll have to ask if we are doing the linking or not (well, I predict they'll say it doesn't matter). If yes, I'll have to apply this to all other NPCs. If not, all links references will be removed. Cheers! — '''[[User:Ruixiang95|<span style="color:#1E90FF;">Ruixiang</span>]][[User talk:Ruixiang95|<span style="color:#4B0082;">95</span>]]''' 08:50, 30 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Sorry. I just got a little carried away. I can easily get arrogant towards people who are doing stuff I at first glance deem wrong. I apologize. It's a characteristic of mine that needs some SERIOUS work. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 09:31, 30 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Re: {{t|Dragon}} trivia. ==<br />
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Another page ''used to'' have trivia like that, but not anymore. Also, if we say that Dragon has been combined with every type except Bug, shouldn't we say Grass has been combined with every type except Fire? (We say that Water and Flying have been combined with every type in their lists of Pokémon). [[User:Dinosauramiable|Dinosauramiable]] ([[User talk:Dinosauramiable|talk]]) 12:15, 11 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
:If that fact is indeed true, I see why not. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 12:18, 11 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
It's already listed there. [[User:Dinosauramiable|Dinosauramiable]] ([[User talk:Dinosauramiable|talk]]) 20:13, 11 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== File name mistake on the Archives ==<br />
I accidentally uploaded a file to "BW076 original trailer.png" when I meant to put "SM076 original trailer.png." Are you able to fix it, please? [[User:The Great Butler|The Great Butler]] ([[User talk:The Great Butler|talk]]) 04:40, 25 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I'd love to help you, but I can't. Only admins are allowed to move image file names. Ask one of them if they could help. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 04:57, 25 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
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==Adding legendary stats==<br />
I am planning to add the stats of the legendary Pokémon encounters that are uncatchable (eg. fused Kyurem, fused Necrozma, Ultra Necrozma). [[User:Jskylinegtr|Jskylinegtr]] ([[User talk:Jskylinegtr|talk]]) 05:43, 26 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Sorry, but the higher-ups have said no to this kind of stuff before and now. Talk with them if you want to. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:50, 26 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Poke ball on Route 104 ==<br />
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It requires going through a certain section of Petalburg Woods, and doesn't that section require cut? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 19:39, 26 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I checked it, and it doesn't. Next time, please check stuff like this before making an edit. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 03:38, 27 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
::You're right. Sorry. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 04:05, 27 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Shadow Hold ==<br />
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Why did you delete my edit? [[Shadow Hold]] IS similar to [[Spirit Shackle]] in the way it prevents opponents from switching out.<br />
:All they have in common is that they trap the opposing Pokémon. That's it. Shadow Hold doesn't even do damage like Spirit Shackle. Besides, they were released four Generations apart. PS. Please use link templates to avoid redirect links. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 06:17, 30 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Protecting moves ==<br />
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Why did you delete my edits on Protecting moves failing? If both mons use Protect in the same turn, then the move for the mon that protects last fails. I described this and, instead of fixing it yourself because I have bad grammar or something, you deleted it; your reasoning was that it "Needs a bit of adjusting... " Here is a link to why that information is important in battle: https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7randombattle-767832306 (skip to turn 19). {{unsigned|Dawkamist}}<br />
:It's not that I don't believe the validity of your information. I just think you didn't do those edits properly, like placing the text in improper places, and not putting links where they should be. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 04:42, 28 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Unique moves ==<br />
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The point of not presuming a move is for people not to presume they know best. You may think this or that case is COMPLETELY obvious, but if we allow one person to get by because something is "obvious", that just leaves room for someone else to think they know best too and complain if it was okay for someone else but not them. The whole point is to just cut out ANY possibility for such arguments by ONLY acknowledging moves that have been explicitly named or (at least tentatively) explicitly approved otherwise.<br />
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Mind Blown has not been approved. You cannot assume that it should be.<br />
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It may be very possible that Mind Blown will be approved, but that's not ''your'' decision. Ask. Ask anyone on staff. Then we'll decide what's warranted.<br />
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[[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 13:48, 29 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Clean Up messages ==<br />
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Hi FinnishPokéFan92,<br />
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I've noticed you have placed several clean up messages on a few of the plot summaries that I have posted. While other users have cleaned up several other Sun and Moon episode plots, I've noticed that SM063 and SM068 are yet to be cleaned up, as well as an earlier alert posted on Morty's Gengar. It would be of great assistance if you can point out what glaring issues that are required to be cleaned up, I'm afraid that I cannot see any issues, and maybe other users cannot either. Plus the feedback would also help me for my future edits going forward.<br />
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Also thank you for the work you have been doing on various associated anime pages. I appreciated the note of feedback on the Cinnabar Island page as it allowed me to put the right information on the right pages.[[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 14:37, 29 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
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Thanks for the compliment!<br><br />
The thing is, I just find that the language in some synopsises is kinda clunky and does not flow too well. I would want to help fixing them, but, to be perfectly blunt, I don't usually have the patience or attention span required for that kind of thing. Sorry. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 16:08, 29 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
:: Flow - that gives me some direction to follow. Thanks [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 16:43, 29 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== SM081 ==<br />
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I was wondering why you removed the Battle Royal part from the major events. I would think a battle like that would be important enough. {{unsigned|Rahl}}<br />
:I don't see it being as important to the overall plot of the series as Ash's previous matches with the Masked Royal. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 19:05, 5 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Stub Removal ==<br />
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Hi FinnishPokéFan92,<br />
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I and GrammarFreak01 have been busy editing several stub pages in the hope of having them be removed from the stub list. I thought it was best that a third party, like yourself, do the evaluation and hopefully the removal of such messages? Or is there someone else who is in charge of such a procedure? [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 04:15, 9 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Oh? Was supposed to be decided by somebody else? Sorry. I didn't know. I just figured that those pages seemed long enough to not be considered stubs anymore. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 04:19, 9 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:: I'm afraid they hadn't been evaluated yet. Here are the pages: <br />
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*[[Absentia Natural Park]]<br />
*[[Ephraim's parents]]<br />
*[[Alex's grandfather]]<br />
*[[Angus]]<br />
*[[Corina]]<br />
*[[Betty]]<br />
*[[Delbert]]<br />
*[[Gail]]<br />
*[[Luna Carson]]<br />
*[[cliff]]<br />
*[[Kingdom of the Vale]]<br />
*[[Galea]]<br />
*[[Fitzwilliam]]<br />
*[[Connally]]<br />
*[[Edmund]]<br />
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Thanks [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 04:29, 9 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::I'm sorry, but I really didn't need that list. I didn't even ask for it. I merely apologized for not knowing that the removal of the "stub" template apparently requires a third party decision (if that indeed is the case, because I've never even heard of it before). In either case, that list is completely unnecessary for me. Just so that you know. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 04:51, 9 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::I'd misinterpreted your earlier comment. And I am not aware of needing a third party to remove stubs, I just assumed that may be the case, apologies for the confusion.[[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 04:57, 9 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::Good. So no harm done. Apology accepted. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:08, 9 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::I found information on the stub removal policy. It clarified that if a page was filled with enough information the stub alert could be deleted. For some other features like voice actor's or a new image an incomplete alert could be placed instead. [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 06:01, 9 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
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I think all you need to do to remove stubs is to add verifiable information to it that might've been originally missing. That's all. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 08:06, 9 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Route 112 trivia ==<br />
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When someone adds trivia that's good but has bad grammar, you're supposed to correct the grammar, right? Not delete it completely? Anyway, what was wrong with my trivium? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 20:26, 17 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:The grammar wasn't up to code, the title was done the wrong way... I admit. It was late and I simply didn't feel up to just fixing it, so I took the easier route. But whatever the case, it wasn't up to code. The piece of trivia itself may very well have been valid, but the way you tried to add it to the page was inadequate. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 04:33, 18 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
::I re-added it. Is it better now? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 05:06, 18 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Almost. The title was a bit off, but I fixed it. Now it should be fine. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:16, 18 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::Thanks for not deleting it this time. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 05:31, 18 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::The mistakes were much more easier to fix up and I wasn't as tired as before, so it was no problem. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:39, 18 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Route 5 Cut link ==<br />
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I'm trying my best, but I can't for the life of me think of any good reason to remove a link to {{m|Cut}} on the [[Kalos Route 5]] page. Is there some Bulbapedia policy that discourages linking to moves in that context? Or one that encourages scouring page histories to undo any revision that didn't add ''enough'' to the article? I was under the impression that minor edits were allowed. And if it were up to me, I'd say the only revisions that should be undone are ones that make an article worse. — [[User:Randomwaffle23|Randomwaffle23]] ([[User talk:Randomwaffle23|talk]]) 02:20, 23 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Oh, minor edits are allowed. We just don't tend to add links to Trainer template divider titles. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 06:31, 23 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Why? — [[User:Randomwaffle23|Randomwaffle23]] ([[User talk:Randomwaffle23|talk]]) 14:31, 23 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Why not? Besides, the links to those moves also exist elsewhere on the page. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 16:17, 23 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::"Why not?" Because links can be helpful, that's why we have them. And I really, truly doubt that duplicating links is the issue, because if it were, we wouldn't allow [[Kalos Route 18#West of the river|fifty-one duplicate links in a single table]]. The most relevant portion of the [[Bulbapedia:Manual of style#Article titles|manual of style]] recommends to "only link to an article once within a given portion of text". I assume a portion of text means a paragraph, bullet point, table cell, or the like, not a whole article. "''Instances further apart may be linked to more than once.''" (The [[wp:Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Linking#Repeated links|corresponding Wikipedia policy]] is that "a link may be repeated in infoboxes, ''tables'', […] and at the first occurrence after the lead.")<br />
::::The question you should ask yourself when undoing an edit is, ''How did this edit make the article worse?'' You need a better answer than "why not". — [[User:Randomwaffle23|Randomwaffle23]] ([[User talk:Randomwaffle23|talk]]) 17:24, 23 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::Whoa! You were more versed in this than I would've guessed. I'll be honest with you, I just saw that your edit was poorly made (as well as unnecessary for the reasons I gave above), so I deleted it. Sorry. But I still stand by my point: there's no need for it. It's perfectly fine to have repeated move links in the item templates and such, but there's no need to start adding move links to where they have never existed, such as the Trainer template divider titles. So may I please ask you to let this go? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 17:31, 23 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::I'm curious what you mean when you say the edit was "poorly made". I took care to include an HTML span tag to make sure the link stayed white instead of turning blue, since blue would've looked poor on the dark background. (The <nowiki>{{m|Cut}}</nowiki> template doesn't allow tags like that, which is why I didn't use it.) The only way someone would even have noticed the link is if they wanted to click it, or if they were scouring the page history.<br />
::::::At this point don't really care anymore whether the thing's linked or not. I'm not gonna re-link it. I just want to convince you not to undo any more people's contributions without a better reason than "because I personally wouldn't have bothered making this edit". Can we agree to that? — [[User:Randomwaffle23|Randomwaffle23]] ([[User talk:Randomwaffle23|talk]]) 18:50, 23 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::Hey, I swear that has NEVER been my (main) reason for undoing edits. Most of the time, there hs been a very good reason for it, only in a small minority have I done it for personal disagreement. Also, I recommend you learn to use the {{template|color}} and {{template|color2}} templates. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 19:02, 23 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::If that's not the reason, then what is? I can't think what the difference might be between an "unnecessary" edit and one that's not worth bothering to make. And if it's because I didn't use the template, why would you undo rather than improve? Adding {{template|color2}} is easy. I didn't know about the template, but you did, and that's why wikis are collaborative.<br />
::::::::[[wp:Help:Reverting#Before reverting|Undoing a good-faith edit is invalidating someone's attempt to help the wiki,]] which discourages them from contributing in the future. It should be done ''only'' when there's no feasible way to improve their contribution instead. — [[User:Randomwaffle23|Randomwaffle23]] ([[User talk:Randomwaffle23|talk]]) 21:09, 23 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::Geez! Based on your edit that I undid, I jumped to conclusions and assumed you were just a new user who didn't know their stuff, but clearly I was wrong! I'm sorry. Also, I'm not defending those edits that I've done for personal disagreements rather than solid reasons. I was being kinda stupid at those times. And hey, I hope those new templates will come in handy for you! --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:41, 24 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== "That is only if we have more Team Skull Grunts than them" ==<br />
No it isn't. Look at BW114 and SM025's pages. It's listed because they're a part of the collection of Grunts. [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]]) 14:50, 26 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Thanks for pointing those out. I fixed them now. That is only used if more than the named Grunts appear in an episode. Otherwise, that's misleading. And it applies to other groups of people as well. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 15:49, 26 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== SM083 ==<br />
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Hi,<br />
<br />
Just saw the large undoing, which wasn't required.<br />
<br />
I was about to apologize, and have also just re-checked you edits but they are reading in unnecessary information and grammatical errors that my edition had previously fixed. The reason for the drastic changes was largely due words ending in -ing, which are typically avoided to give the sentences more of an present tense than sounding like you are in midst of an action. And I noticed a few of the links were missing. Though I must commend you on the detail, an edit summary with over 10,000 bytes usually indicates an action packed episode and I feel you were able to capture that. I apologize for the sudden changes, but saw that they were needed. I wouldn't view the changes as a complete re-write, as I didn't have to add anything to the actual plot, it was literally just editing the sentences which in some were sometimes too long (I make the same error as well).[[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 11:35, 28 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I haven't had time and currently don't have time to sort out who's in the right or in the wrong here but I do know you both need to stop edit warring. It accomplishes nothing, so talk it out here or on the article's talk page. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 11:50, 28 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
::To clarify the situation, FinnishPokeFan92 became overwhelmed with all of my changes which were grammar based and undid everything by republished his old edition. I later found out and re-added them, with some of his later ones in mind as the same issues had persisted from earlier.[[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 11:56, 28 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::I had actually only ''mostly'' undone your edit earlier today, modifying some of the parts you had added to better fit into the synopsis, while readding some stuff that I feel was unnecessarily removed or removing some overly detailed parts. GrammarFreak01 had actually already redone a lot of your edits when I plastered my own version on top of their version, but they took it well. Let's be honest here: your intentions were good, but you also ended up adding a lot of new errors in the process, replacing the mistakes that were already being fixed. You should try just fixing the mistakes instead of rewriting the entire synopsis, unless the mistakes simply are that extensive. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 12:18, 28 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::: I streamlined the plot to reduce some of the sentence lengths and also some of the unnecessary details such as characters asking questions. GrammarFreak01 made some structural changes which were incorporated and I re-added some of your edits, prior to me reading the edited plot summary that I had earlier done as yes, there were in fact a few wrong words used by me. The sentences that were re-written was because the tense was wrong (words ending in -ing are usually avoided, but were throughout the old edition), not the information. And some words don't work well in the same sentence with just a change of tense, so a sentence has to be reconfigured to account for that.[[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 12:32, 28 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::Please note that I saw your re added segments to the plot line, despite them having been removed for good reasons. I will not be making any further changes despite my previously outlined reasons for the deletions.<br />
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:::::Now my real issue is with your snide comments on the SM084 and SM085 pages and again leaving another useless "not up to standards" template. Whether those are of a personal nature or not, please note that actual feedback for both myself and for PKMN Trainer Ryan who added the respective plots is required to ensure such errors do not occur again and that either the users in question or another user can rectify them. Do not continue this same conduct as it is a cause for friction and does not aid anyone or even the site, as you are unwilling to make the necessary changes yourself, in becoming better [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 09:05, 16 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::Firstly: what added segments are you referring to?<br />
::::::Secondly: those templates are not "useless". Those synopsises are in a genuine need of improvement, no matter who made them. True, maybe I should notify the users who made said synopsises directly on their talk pages, but I don't see that I did anything wrong by adding those cleanup templates. Also, your words come off as unnecessarily rude and rather self-important. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 09:33, 16 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::PardescanSlowbro is right, just adding a cleanup template with a frustrated edit summary helps no one, especially in 1) recent contributions (as opposed to old/low traffic pages), 2) such large contributions, and 3) contributions by regular editors.<br />
:::::::You should try to always make your edit summaries useful if you're going to put anything there. If people are going to contribute regularly, it's much better to help them. More--and more experienced--people on Bulbapedia is a good thing. FYI I read at least the first paragraph of SM 84 and 85 and there's nothing that ABSOLUTELY needs improvement to my eye. (And FWIW, don't worry about telling ME what all the problems are here; I don't need it, they do.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 17:58, 16 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::SM085 I can somewhat agree with, but if you seriously aren't seeing anything wrong with SM084's synopsis... I'm actually inclined to just deleting said synopsis so that it can be rewritten from the ground up later. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 07:23, 17 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Paintings depicting Pokémon ==<br />
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As noted in the [[Bulbapedia:Manual of style/Anime|Manual of Style for anime articles]], statues, posters, and other man made object depicting Pokémon do not count as appearances. Paintings fall under man made objects.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 11:42, 2 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Stealing items from [[Iris]] ==<br />
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It's possible to steal the Life Orb from Iris' {{tt|Druddigon|All battles except the rematches in Challenge Mode}} or {{tt|Salamence|Rematch in Challenge Mode}}.<br />
[[User:TheICTLiker4|TheICTLiker4]] ([[User talk:TheICTLiker4|talk]]) 05:57, 5 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:It is. However, you can't just keep the item after the battle, so it doesn't count. Permanently stealing items from NPC Pokémon has been impossible since [[Generation IV]]. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:59, 5 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== mt moon items ==<br />
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i was just being more specific. dome and helix are the actual fossils and it seems better than just fossils, so why not? -[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 02:21, 15 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:You don't have to be ''too'' specific. They're listed right there on the same list. And about the Super Nerd, he didn't have a name in Generation I, so simply referring him to as "Super Nerd" in the item location description applies to all Generations where he's present. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 06:05, 15 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
::but dome and helix fossils link to regular fossils so fossils are just another click away. me personally i treat each item as a separate line thats why they all have links so i think being more specific is only beneficial. i agree with the super nerd tho. -[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 17:38, 15 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::The paired Fossil articles are planned to be split into their articles, plus I don't think repeated links would look good. Also, why aren't you using any capital letters? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 17:55, 15 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::even if they are being planned to split, we can still link to both when that time comes. and when u say repeating links i see team rocket grunt repeated a million times, which seems fine to me. too lazy to use shift. -[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 21:48, 15 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::Whatever. And I meant repeating links in the item list location descriptions. Also, being too lazy to use shift... Wow. Just, wow. It's honestly not that hard. Don't make yourself look ridiculously lazy, please. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:02, 16 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::so by whatever can i take it i can change the link to dome and helix fossils? :) yeah i also meant repeating links in the item list. i see rocket grunt links a million times there. -[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 21:59, 16 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::Go ahead. I'll make adjustments if I see it necessary, but I'll keep this conversation in mind while doing so. PS. Please start using big capital letters. It's honestly not that hard. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 07:23, 17 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== repeated links ==<br />
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u seem to have a problem with repeated links; however if i go to mt moon items section i can see a team rocket grunt link over and over. so what's the problem? -[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 19:27, 23 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:The problem is that you shouldn't ''purposefully'' add repeated links. And removing them is always a plus. Plus, repeated Trainer class links on Trainer lists are a bit different case than repeated links in the item descriptions. PS. Please start using big capital letters when necessary. You're making yourself look lazy by not doing it. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 20:53, 23 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== {{t|Fairy}} type vs. {{type|Fairy}} ==<br />
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What's the difference supposed to be between those two? When am I supposed to use {{t|Fairy}} type and when am I supposed to use {{type|Fairy}}? I find this very confusing. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 00:26, 24 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:The difference is that "X-type" is an adjective, while "X type" is a noun. A good mnemonic is that "X-type" is always followed by a word, like "Sylveon is a Fairy-type Pokémon", but "X type" is not, like "Sylveon is a Fairy type". I hope that clears it up for you. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 06:09, 24 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Yeah, I think I get it now. Thanks. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 07:27, 24 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
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==Redirect==<br />
Don't suppose you know how we can redirect links like Lusamine's Cleffa and Lusamine's Clefairy to [[Lusamine's Clefable]]?--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 19:43, 25 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
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:I think I just took care of that. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 21:11, 25 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
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::It's really simple, actually. Just make a page with the redirect title, write <nowiki>#REDIRECT</nowiki>, and add the link to the page you want the redirect to lead to after that. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 08:48, 26 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Regarding Playerking ==<br />
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Hey, I just want to point out that edit summaries like [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Air_Slash_(move)&diff=2841270&oldid=2841250 these] can be considered rude. It's fine to have disagreements with another user, but to tell them to be quiet isn't the way to solve those disagreements. Preferably, discuss it with Playerking on a suitable talk page.<br />
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Besides that, may I ask what your motivation is for adding several moves, such as Flash Cannon for Nebby and Air Slash? I haven't seen the episode yet, but you should know by now that Bulbapedia is built on proof, especially when it comes to moves being used. If they weren't called out on screen, please wait until they are in another episode or wait for the closed captioning. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 14:33, 30 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Okay, I admit that I may have been a bit rude, but those moves have exactly same animations as we've already seen in the anime. Air Slash is even used in this very same episode. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 15:01, 30 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Route 206 items ==<br />
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Why did you undo my edit? A bunch of other location pages, like Mt. Coronet, have multiple item tables. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 19:55, 31 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Yes, your edit was valid. There were just a couple of errors I noticed. 1) Leave a space in between the templates. 2) You missed a couple of items that should've been under the bridge. I also felt a bit grumpy yesterday, so I didn't feel like fixing your edit, so I instead went the lazy route and undid it entirely. Don't worry. I can put it the proper way to satisfy us both now. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 06:07, 1 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Okay thanks. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 16:27, 1 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Anime move mistakes ==<br />
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I am hereby informing you that, due to continued and widespread failure to follow the anime move policy, I will be instituting a '''3 strikes policy''' for anime moves. If a user adds a move that should not be added, they get a strike. If they make another mistake when they have 3 strikes, they will receive a block. This applies to you as soon as this is posted. (I.e., you are currently at 0 strikes.)<br />
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I will attempt to reiterate the anime move policy here so that it as simple as possible to follow:<br />
* If a move is explicitly commanded, identified by a character after the fact, or identified by closed captions, it can be added.<br />
* If the move is on [[User:Force Fire/List of moves with unique animations]], it can be added.<br />
In no other circumstances should a move be added. If you cannot testify that the above conditions were met ''when you added a move'', you will receive a strike. If you feel that a move ''should'' be acknowledged, please feel free to bring it up to me or any {{bp|staff}} member.<br />
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[[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:03, 5 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I'm going to give you 24 hours to explain how [[Special:Diff/2850812|this reversion]] meets the criteria outlined above. If you cannot, you will gain a strike. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:19, 20 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Okay, maybe it doesn't, but honestly, you just aren't using common sense! You are actively removing valid information by saying that since it wasn't stated out loud, it doesn't count. This wasn't an issue at one point in Bulbapedia's history, so why is it now? '''Why?!''' There was a time when we weren't restricted by rules as unnecessarily strict as these! You are actively making Bulbapedia '''lie''' to people by removing information that even '''they''' can see is true and valid! Honestly, if there is uncertainty about a move's identity, then '''discuss''' about it! Don't '''remove''' it!<br />
::Also, like I said in the edit summary, Nebby's attack '''was''' Sunsteel Strike, since it's required to use Searing Sunraze Smash, which it had used in the previous episode. "Glowing headbutt"? Are you serious?! The animation even looks identical to the one in the games in the later appearance! I don't want to consider you as a narrow-minded or stupid person, so please, don't act like one! I'm only trying to help Bulbapedia from hurting itself! --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 06:23, 20 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::PS. Sorry about my rudeness there. I'm just really passionate about this subject. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 08:39, 20 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::''"Why is it [an issue] now?"'' Because of things like finding out someone made a wrong guess with Air Slash or Psycho Cut or whatever.<br />
:::You say, ''"if there is uncertainty about a move's identity, then '''discuss''' about it!"'' A number of people one way or another missed the chance...[[Talk:Sunsteel Strike (move)#SM053]]. In fact, I ''was'' half prepared to remove it, but I decided instead to leave that question on the talk page. Then I forgot for a while and when I remembered again I was disappointed to notice it still hadn't gotten any response. Besides which, the same goes for you: '''discuss''' it. Stop reverting just because you're "sure". Stop reverting without any new insights. I don't like to pull the authority card, but stop reverting staff just because you don't like it. '''Discuss'''. This here is important: I DO NOT say that we are hostile to all of your wants. But I, for one, just want some ''order''. We never said that people can just assume&mdash;in one place or another, we have explicitly said that's what we don't want. But I've also asked you all to ask someone on staff, and I really can't think of one time where that was anyone's first reaction. Can you see how that just gets frustrating, when I keep trying to push that? That's why I went to zero tolerance with these strikes.<br />
:::DISCUSS. We/I am here to listen. You may be very reasonable, and we may find a way to accomodate you. But it doesn't happen if you won't talk first. (Editing first will get you strikes.)<br />
:::So... You're maintaining that Nebby used Sunsteel Strike. Just to be sure we can talk about the same thing reliably, please...well, please just respond to [[Talk:Sunsteel Strike (move)#SM053]] as requested there. We'll figure it out there.<br />
:::Since you have not been able to meet the criteria clearly outlined above...<br />
:::You are at 1 strike. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 10:40, 20 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::I left the response. Again, sorry for my rudeness. I can be rude when I get frustrated, even on authority figures, because in those cases, my mindset basically becomes: "Oh, so this authority figure thinks I can't say something against their opinion? Just watch me!" I know it's not right or polite in the slightest, so, again, I apologise. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 10:59, 20 September 2018 (UTC) PS. I had actually completely forgotten about this strike system until now. That's what tends to happen with me with things that I haven't been reminded of enough.<br />
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You're super bringing this on yourself... I'm thinking that if you haven't learned so far (and with so little time passed as well in this recent case), then I'll let you dig your own grave until you finally get deep enough to learn something from it.<br />
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I'm going to skip checking whether you can justify [[Special:Diff/2852505|this edit]] since it's about the same thing you got strike 1 for and nothing has changed since then.<br />
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You are at 2 strikes. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:21, 24 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:To be honest, I WAS going to reverse the edit on Sunsteel Strike's own page as well. But I knew you'd react like this, so I instead left a message on the talk page. But apparently, even the thing I did was too much for you. Bleh... --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 07:09, 24 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Yeah. I admit. I should've removed the edit I did, or better yet, not done it at all. I'm sorry. Is it possible for me to get that second strike removed? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 07:14, 24 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::I think not. FWIW 3 strikes is not "out", it's basically your last warning. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 10:22, 24 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== My error ==<br />
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Sorry about mistaking Magic Coat as Mirror Coat, I should have read a little more before posting that. :P ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|<span style="color:teal">Frozen</span>]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|<span style="color:green">Fennec</span>]]'' 13:39, 9 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:It's okay. The important thing is you recognized your mistake and fixed it. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 13:49, 9 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Skrub's Hitmontop ==<br />
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Since I was the one who found the information in question I was told I should be the one to explain it. I was prompted to look into this when someone asked me why Eagun's Pikachu could miss moves with 100 Accuracy when battling Skrub. Since I had the files and the know-how, I looked at each instance of Skrub's Hitmontop in Colosseum's common.rel. The important thing to note is that:<br />
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The Hitmontop for Eagun's Battle at 0xDD66F9, lists 0xED as holding 0xB3, which translates to a Bright Powder<br />
All other instances, such as in his first battle with you at 0xD34A9, list 0xED as holding 0xCF, which translates to a Black Belt.<br />
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I've not seen anyone else who's proven this, so you'll just have to take my word on it.<br />
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https://imgur.com/a/YTWog00<br />
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[[User:Unalive|Unalive]] ([[User talk:Unalive|talk]]) 18:55, 28 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Okay. Thank you. This is a good and reliable source. But next time, please provide your source right away to avoid cases like this. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 20:02, 28 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== floor order ==<br />
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floor order overrides game order? Since when? there are plenty of pages where game order is used over floor order. here's two: https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Rock_Tunnel#Items<br />
https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Seafoam_Islands#Items<br />
plus game order is easier to follow--[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 17:20, 30 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Those are pages where this issue just hasn't been fixed yet. Feel free to do it yourself, if you want to. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 18:29, 30 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::"those are the pages". every page is like this. why is it an issue? why feel the need to impose floor order? game order is so much better. if i am playing a certain game i can just scroll to it and not have to wade thru the items. where did u even get this idea from? --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 18:56, 30 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::It's not on '''every''' page. In fact, it's on a ton of pages already. Not in every page (and, as I said above, it'd be good for those pages where this is not the case to have it fixed), but generally speaking, it's preferred to list items in the order of accessibility, which, in the case of places like caves and buildings, means floors, even if it contradicts the game order. This order has received admin approval, as you can see [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Cave_of_Origin&diff=2220841&oldid=2220824 here]. It's an old edit, I know, but the point is still valid. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 19:39, 30 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::what u linked i have no problem with: oras and ruby/saph are basically the same game. look at seafoam islands. rby and frlg items are interwoven, which is fine. its that hgss should be listed after, because its layout is entirely different and should not be interwoven with rbyfrlg. and yes it is every page. since u claim its not every page, id like to see an example where its not. cave of origin is not an example. i am listing items in order of accessibility. frlg was released before hg/ss. so hgss items should come after. that simple. --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 19:50, 30 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::If the layout of the floors is different, then just keep the floors in a numerical order but put the newer games after the older ones. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:55, 1 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::..that's exactly what i'm doing. for every kanto page i did that since it overlaps with the johto pages. that includes celadon department. why keep that one different. hgss should come after. --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 11:42, 1 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::The point is, '''keep the floors in numerical order'''. You can put the items '''on a floor''' in the obtainable and/or game order, but keep the floor numbers in numerical order. I hope you understood. PS. You should '''seriously''' start using capital letters. It's not that hard or tiresome. Honestly. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 16:50, 1 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::why would i use floor order. u said urself that i should list the items in terms of accessibility. not every single place is linear in the sense that i can obtain every single item on a floor before moving on to the next one. sometimes i will for example be able to get an item on the second floor before an item on the first floor. floor order is meaningless. and as ive said, if we do floor order the games will all be mixed together, and why would you want that? --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 17:07, 1 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::...This isn't getting us anywhere. We need to ask an admin about this, although I still think you should try to understand my point. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 17:15, 1 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::::what is ur point exactly? the only thing ive gathered is "use floor order". not a single reason why, tho. --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 17:19, 1 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::::Why not? It only makes sense. People see the floor numbers before the games anyway, as they, more often than not, read from right to left, so it makes sense to list them in that order. Floor order is the first priority, game order is the second. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 18:33, 1 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::::::have you not read a single thing ive said. ive given you many reasons why floor order is bad. when people are looking at the items they are playing the game and trying to find them. if u put an item that can be found at the end first thats awful. u said it urself, you should list the itens in terms of accessibility. thats what im doing. now ur saying floor order trumps that? ur contradiciting urself. --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 18:44, 1 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::::::EternalDragonX, at what order the player finds the items is '''not''' something we can control. Especially for a place that has no linearity. Just because you find an item at a certain order, doesn't mean everyone else will. Most of your concerns (this ties back to the discussion you had on TiddlyWinks page) are just things we cannot control. How the player plays the game is not our issue. Therefore, at what order a player can obtain the item is not a priority since players finds items at a different order.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 08:24, 2 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::::::::so, what, we should list all the items in floor order? and mix all the games together? yea that seems like a great idea, considering no pages are like that. not to mention how confusing that is. --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 11:51, 2 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::::::::also, are you suggesting that the order we list items in is irrelevant? thats what it sounds like ur saying, since it isn't something we can "control". which also means that i might as well list an item at the very back of the dungeon before an item right by the entrance right? --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 21:33, 2 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
{{indent}}Floor order and ''then'' game order. The ordering that you're suggesting ("sometimes i will for example be able to get an item on the second floor before an item on the first floor") is what we can't control. So what if you found the item on the second floor first before an item on the first floor? That's not something we can control. Different players play the game differently. The order where you obtain them is not of a high priority for a place like Seafoam Islands or Rock Tunnel, since it's an open area. Routes are a different story, where the ordering should be the items from point A to point B.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 06:17, 3 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:so youre seriously telling me that you would mix the gsc items with the firered items in rock tunnel? why would you do that. it serves 0 benefit. and again, youre also saying that i should list an item that may be right by the exit of an area before one near the entrance of an area? that makes no sense. these are yes or no questions by the way. also, im not really "controlling" the players, im just giving them a suggested sequence of obtaining the items; one that wouldnt involve much if any backtracking at all. accessibility order is just so much more convenient: you can get every single item by going down the list, not having to skip several items and then go back up to try and find them again. there's no reason to use floor order --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 11:58, 3 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::It's not ''that'' confusing. It's not as jumbled up as you're making it out to be. The ordering is still going to be RBY>GSC>FRLG>HGSS, regardless of the template going by floor order. Common sense should still be considered, if you know you're not going to place an item from deep in a dungeon as the first item listed, then I don't know what the problem is. You're well aware of how nonsensical that is. To make it easier, if there are two items by the entrance (one on the left and one on the right), it doesn't matter which one gets listed first because different players are going to get different items first.<br />
::We are not a walkthrough, we are not going to give a suggested ordering, we're just listing the items. No need to be nit picky about the specifics. whether someone doesn't want to backtrack isn't really our problem. Again, players play the games differently. I'd be happy to back track, while other probably wouldn't. That's just how it goes. It's not a high priority.<br />
::If you want to continue this discussion, feels free to come to my talk page or any of the location talk pages. Finnish probably wouldn't want to keep getting notified about his talk page.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 05:18, 4 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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==Thank you!==<br />
Thanks for helping me out with the formatting on the [[Lush Jungle]] and [[Diglett's Tunnel]] pages! I'm new to editing Bulbapedia, so I'm still getting the hang of how the shortcuts work and what the standards are. If you have any tips/tricks, please let me know! '''[[User:Butterfreeism|<span style="color:#625B7C">–Bu<span style="color:#C05751">tt<span style="color:#5A93AE">erfr</span>ee</span>ism</span>''']] 18:10, 30 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Thanks for the compliment. And certainly! If you feel uncertain about something, feel free to ask me or some other more experienced user. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 18:29, 30 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== viridian gym ==<br />
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what the hell was the point of that edit. its clearly not about floor order anymore so why even bother. --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 12:00, 3 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:no ones going to answer this for you --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 12:58, 4 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::I know. I'm just getting tired of this. I saw it as other Gym items going after the reward TMs, but rethinking about it, I'm not so sure about that anymore. I'll see what I'll do with it. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 15:22, 4 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::i still dont have the faintest why you put that macho brace at the end. wasnt it you yourself who said items on the same floor can be in game order? --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 17:37, 4 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::They're technically in the obtaining order now. The Revive is first because you can obtain it before the Gym battle, the reward TMs are obtained right after the Gym battle (regardless of the game, which is why ''they'' are in game order), and the Macho Brace can be obtained after Giovanni has left after the Gym battle. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 19:04, 4 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::im all for accessibility order. im the one thats preaching it. but that is only limited to being in the same game; rby and frlg are basically the same game. if there was say a potion in the exact same spot as the revive in rby in frlg, yes i would list it right after the revive, before the tm. but hgss is an entirely different game. the layout of everything is different. if an item is in a different location, it should follow game order instead. aka kanto>johto. just because the items happen to be given by the gym leader after being defeated shouldnt mean they should be together. --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 19:31, 4 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::first of all that was my talk page not his. secondly i can see you have the time to go through other peoples talk pages but not your own... --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 14:42, 5 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::i like how u read that talk page but you completely ignore the fact that i specifically ask not to just go and undo my edit because there ARE other improvements i made but you went ahead and undid all of them anyway. so thanks. real classy move. --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 14:49, 5 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::yeah u know what your edit was just so appalling im just gonna undo it and separate the tables myself... something i was planning on doing later... --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 14:56, 5 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::In case you're referring to the Victory Road edit, I reversed it because it was the easy way to put it back the way it was. If you feel like you want to improve it somehow now, feel free to do so. Just don't combine the sections to one again. Also, I DID check my talk page. I'm simply just growing tired of arguing against you and your stubbornness. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 14:58, 5 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::jesus christ i LITERALLY said that i was just going to separate the tables right now. and ill do it by breaking it up from MY edit. not yours. still also love the fact that you havent even addressed the issue of viridian gym but you do all this... --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 15:09, 5 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::::I think you're taking this a biiit too seriously. I'm honestly not sure about Gyms, since it's not often we get items other than the reward TMs from them, but for now, I'm satisfied woth how it is, for the reasons I gave you earlier. PS. Could YOU also please respond to my question? Why do you refuse to use big capital letters? It's honestly not hard at all. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 17:35, 5 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::::no im not taking this too seriously. because u went and did your victory road edit i had to undo it so that i could make my edit, which i said i would literally on my talk page, which i know you read. then you go ahead and undo my undo literally WHILE i was making my edit like i said above and i had to go and undo that AGAIN. anymore and they'd accuse me of edit warring.<br />
::::::::::::not sure eh? well guess what. i am. if you dont give me a good reason and address what i said above im undoing your edit on viridian gym. <br />
:::::::::::: ... use ... capital letters? ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4p-SUvicno --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 20:34, 5 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::::::yooooooo i know you read my last message. the fact that you made an edit means youve been on and i seriously doubt you didnt read it. --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 16:11, 6 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::::::Again, I didn't reply because I'm getting tired of this. Also, you didn't give any good reasoning for why you don't use big capital letters. Or reasoning at all, in fact. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 16:43, 6 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::::::::all right im undoing your edit. --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 17:04, 6 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== celadon department store ==<br />
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im undoing your edit. cuz we talked about how the items should follow game order regardless of floor order. :) --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 01:23, 9 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:No. You should follow the floor order. Why are you so obsessed about this? It's not right! --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 04:12, 9 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::wot m8. we talked about it in the first two paragraphs: https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:Force_Fire#floor_order_cont<br />
::game order will always be the same. --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 15:33, 9 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::...I honestly can't understand your mindset. You're way too obsessed about this. Also, '''please''', write with big capital letters like a mature person would. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 15:47, 9 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::You've clearly misinterpreted what I said EternalDragon. What I meant was that the order of the games is always going to be the same order even if the list is following floor order. So for example:<br />
:::::Floor 1:<br />
::::::RBY/FRLG<br />
::::::GSC/HGSS<br />
::::::FRLG<br />
::::::HGSS<br />
:::::Floor 2:<br />
::::::RBY/FRLG<br />
::::::GSC/HGSS<br />
::::::FRLG<br />
::::::HGSS<br />
:::::Floor 3:<br />
::::::RBY/FRLG<br />
::::::GSC/HGSS<br />
::::::FRLG<br />
::::::HGSS<br />
::::The game order is not going to get jumbled up if you follow by floor order.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 16:27, 9 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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==SM084==<br />
Regarding [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=SM084&diff=next&oldid=2859383 my edit here], I had looked beforehand if events such as this one had been noted on other episode pages, but I couldn't find any so I removed it. I figured it'd be weird to leave this when it wasn't done for other Pokémon. But you say it has been done for other Pokémon, so I was wondering what pages you were talking about. Could you maybe show an example? [[User:Satsjoe|Satsjoe]] ([[User talk:Satsjoe|talk]]) 10:46, 12 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:[[EP075]], [[EP077]], and [[EP111]]. I also guess it could be applied to one or two of Ash's Unova Pokémon that he didn't add to his party right away too, like {{AP|Palpitoad}}. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 10:50, 12 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Thanks. Guess I didn't search well enough, my bad. [[User:Satsjoe|Satsjoe]] ([[User talk:Satsjoe|talk]]) 10:58, 12 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::It's okay. Errare humanum est. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 12:55, 12 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== why not ==<br />
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all i did was reorder the items and add links. of course reordering them isnt absolutely necessary, but why not? now theres a semblance of how you obtain the items. --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 05:48, 15 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Links I can understand, but the reordering? No. These lists are '''supposed''' to be in alphabetical order, '''not''' in obtainable order. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 06:16, 15 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== When Nebby learned Sunsteel Strike ==<br />
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Can you explain why you think [[Nebby]] learned {{m|Sunsteel Strike}} when it evolved?<br />
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I'm also curious about what you meant when you said you received approval for it.<br />
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(FYI I'm not inclined to worry about strikes in this case/at this point because it's a weird situation. This is worth sorting out on its own terms for now.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 23:08, 18 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:For the exact same reason I said in the edit summary and what we discussed on your talk page just a little while ago: the anime [[SM091#Trivia|recently confirmed]] that exclusive Z-Moves need a certain move to act as their basis, just like in the games. Since Nebby used Searing Sunraze Smash in the episode where it evolved into Solgaleo, it must have also known Sunsteel Strike at the time. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 06:37, 19 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== External link on Pokemon breeding ==<br />
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Hey, I can see you reverted my change on [[Pokémon breeding]]. Would it be OK to add the link as a referrence? I'd add new section as it doesn't exists for that article. --[[User:Robdy|Robdy]] ([[User talk:Robdy|talk]]) 13:21, 19 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Ask an admin. I'd say no, but ask one of them to be sure. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 14:26, 19 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Spiritomb edits ==<br />
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Is there any specific reason why you removed my edits in the Spiritomb page? {{unsigned|ABlinkAway4}}<br />
:First off: new comments go to the bottom of the talk page. You can add a new section by clicking the "+" next to the "Edit" button.<br />
:Second: don't forget to sign your comments. The sign button is right above the edit window, the second to last button.<br />
:Third: while the trivia '''was''' valid, it was poorly written and placed. Sorry. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 10:31, 24 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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==Archive images==<br />
https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Pok%C3%A9_Problem&diff=prev&oldid=2870434<br />
I hid them for the simple reason that I didn't know they were uploaded yet and they always get hidden there without any problem. They were also hidden because they don't get uploaded that quickly. I don't hide things for no reasons, so please don't get annoyed without knowing the reason. [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]])!<br />
:I managed to find a HD version of the episode soon after it had aired. That's where I got those pictures. Sorry if you felt like I offended you. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 15:41, 29 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Pokémon League (Alola)/Title Defense page ==<br />
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I confirmed that Sophocles's Magnezone is Analytic in USUM. See also [https://twitter.com/zakocky/status/1056857442246569984 my tweet]. Deutsch and Chinese version say too so.--[[User:Zaggyo|Zaggyo]] ([[User talk:Zaggyo|talk]]) 06:56, 30 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Okay. Sorry. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 07:01, 30 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Beta Page Revision ==<br />
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Just curious why my two edits were undone; I thought they were helpful. The space on the XD page in case people though the entire thing was one item and the notes on the Colosseum page to note that there were only a handful of noted Pokémon among the lists are never available in the final game. ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|<span style="color:teal">Frozen</span>]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|<span style="color:green">Fennec</span>]]'' 19:37, 30 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Pardon me. I didn't think that the space was necessary and the Colosseum edit could've been done a bit better. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 20:12, 30 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Ah, let me know how it could be done better so I can improve on it then; thank you. :) ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|<span style="color:teal">Frozen</span>]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|<span style="color:green">Fennec</span>]]'' 20:20, 30 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== wat ==<br />
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why are you removing my links --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 11:03, 31 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:They were repeat links. Also, don't forget to use the {{template|pkmn}} and {{template|pkmn2}} templates to make links simpler to add. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 13:05, 31 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::gee, maybe it wouldve been nice to say that in the change instead of having me come and ask. hmmmmmmmmmmmmm. and those links were the first in those sections; they were repeated, but in an above section. it should be fine to repeat them --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 13:21, 31 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::1) You're being unnecessarily rude. 2) Okay, valid point, but I'm still not sure. 3) I'm really not in the mood of arguing with you again. Please ask someone higher up, like Force Fire or Chosen. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 13:24, 31 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Facade ==<br />
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I checked the RAWs, and Viz's translation is correct. It was Facade. I want to move the file, but which is the Electrike's nickname in the Viz version? The image currently says "Rikey", but it says "Rikelec" on the template itself. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 17:47, 1 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:It's the latter. I added it to the template only a few hours ago. And while you're at it, could you also move the other move pictures from the same page? I also changed their names in the templates to match the ones in the Viz translation. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 18:18, 1 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Recent edit ==<br />
You've been told by an admin that you shouldn't undo an edit just because YOU think it includes bad grammar. https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Spiritomb_(Pok%C3%A9mon)&diff=prev&oldid=2868512 That's not constructive. [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]]) 15:33, 13 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Sorry. It's just a fact that said edit legitimately contained grammatical errors. I also personally saw that the sentence structure could've been better. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 16:46, 13 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Detective Pikachu Cameos ==<br />
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Why did you remove the cameo Pokemon from the Detective Pikachu film page? They do appear in the film and I did specifically list them as being a cameo. So, why did you remove them? Thanks. '''Ice''' [[User talk:The IceCream|Cream]] 16:28, 14 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Because they weren't even actually featured. For example, Articuno and Steelix were only mentioned on a poster. That does not count as an appearance. Not even as a cameo. And same goes for other Pokémon pictures as well. Bulbapedia only counts direct appearances. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 19:21, 14 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Well, they make an appearance somewhere in the trailer even if it's so small. Shouldn't that count for something? '''Ice''' [[User talk:The IceCream|Cream]] 21:57, 14 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::I just told you: indirect appearances don't count. Especially ones that are only mentioned. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 08:55, 15 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::How does appearing on a poster not count as a cameo? I am just curious to why you think this. '''Ice''' [[User talk:The IceCream|Cream]] 15:51, 15 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::Even if it DOES count as a cameo, it still doesn't count as a proper appearance. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 16:33, 15 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::That's why I listed it as a cameo and not a proper appearance. '''Ice''' [[User talk:The IceCream|Cream]] 19:04, 15 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::I said: Bulbapedia doesn't count those. Period. As in, they do not belong to the characters section. At all. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 19:58, 15 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== [[Trophy Garden]] edit war ==<br />
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Hi there. You removed my edits, despite me requesting a discussion before doing so, and me having started a talk page discussion about this topic. I am happy to talk about this if you will stop reverting without discussion, but due to the edit warring, I will also be calling in an administrator. --[[User:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] [[User talk:Poppy Appletree|:3]] 13:03, 20 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Your links and references needed fixing, which I've done now. There's no need for an admin. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 13:09, 20 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:: Thanks for the fixes! I haven't been an active wiki contributor in several years now, and I'm a bit rusty. I would have appreciated if you'd have just talked to me, though I circled [[user:Blazingfist]] in for oversight. --[[User:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] [[User talk:Poppy Appletree|:3]] 13:13, 20 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::It seems that {{user|Force Fire}} agrees with me about the notability of this rumor. Sorry. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 13:41, 20 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::: Would you mind having a look at the scope of materials discussing the Secret Garden rumour and re-evaluating? --[[user:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] 11:20, 21 November 2018 (UTC)</div>
Poppy Appletree
https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Brittany_(TCG_GB)&diff=2884124
Brittany (TCG GB)
2018-11-21T11:08:04Z
<p>Poppy Appletree: Cleaning up run-on sentence</p>
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<div>'''Brittany''' (Japanese: '''アヤコ''' ''Ayako'') is one of the three Club Members from the [[Grass Club]], under [[Club Master Nikki]], in {{ga|Pokémon Trading Card Game}}.<br />
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==In {{ga|Pokémon Trading Card Game}}==<br />
[[File:TCG1 Brittany.png|thumb|right]]<br />
The player is required to battle with Brittany, in a 4 prize card match, in order to challenge Club Master Nikki. Upon defeat, Brittany awards the player with two {{GB|1|Mystery}} booster packs.<br />
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==={{TCG|Etc. Deck}}===<br />
{{decklist/header}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|1|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Caterpie|45}}|Grass||Common}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|1|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Weedle|69}}|Grass||Common}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Jungle|Nidoran♀|57}}|Grass||Common}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Jungle|Oddish|58}}|Grass||Common}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Tangela|66}}|Grass||Common}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Charmander|46}}|Fire||Common}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|1|{{TCG ID|Fossil|Magmar|39}}|Fire||Uncommon}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Pikachu|58}}|Lightning||Common}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|1|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Magnemite|53}}|Lightning||Common}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|1|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Diglett|47}}|Fighting||Common}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Machop|52}}|Fighting||Common}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Gastly|50}}|Psychic||Common}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|1|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Jynx|31}}|Psychic||Uncommon}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|3|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Bill|91}}|Trainer||Common}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Energy Retrieval|81}}|Trainer||Uncommon}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|3|{{TCG ID|Fossil|Energy Search|59}}|Trainer||Common}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|3|{{TCG ID|Jungle|Poké Ball|64}}|Trainer||Common}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|3|{{TCG ID|Base Set|PlusPower|84}}|Trainer||Uncommon}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Defender|80}}|Trainer||Uncommon}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|8|{{TCG|Grass Energy}}|Energy|Grass}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|4|{{TCG|Fire Energy}}|Energy|Fire}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|4|{{TCG|Lightning Energy}}|Energy|Lightning}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|4|{{TCG|Fighting Energy}}|Energy|Fighting}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|4|{{TCG|Psychic Energy}}|Energy|Psychic}}<br />
{{decklist/footer}}<br />
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==In [[Pokémon Card GB2: Here Comes Team GR!]]==<br />
Brittany plays two different decks over the course of the game. Both decks are four prize card matches.<br />
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===Poison Bee Deck===<br />
'''Poison Bee Deck''' (Japanese: '''のこされたみどりのデッキ''') is the first deck played by Brittany. Upon defeat, she awards the player with two {{GB|2|Beginning Pokémon}} booster packs.<br />
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This is a required matchup to progress the storyline towards fighting [[GR-2]]. Brittany can first be found at the dueling table in the communications room of the [[Grass Club]]. Defeating Brittany for the first time gets the player information about her superior, Nikki, who is hiding out at [[Mr. Ishihara's House]] and will only appear there at this point in the story. This battle therefore must be played at least once to progress the game.<br />
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If you challenge Brittany<!--after defeating the [[GR Castle]] / [[GR Lightning Fort]]--> at a later point in the game, she will have upgraded her deck and will no longer use this decklist.<br />
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{{decklist/header}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|3|{{TCG ID|Bulbasaur Deck|Bulbasaur|1}}|Grass||Common}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|1|{{TCG ID|Bulbasaur Deck|Ivysaur|22}}|Grass||Uncommon}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|4|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Weedle|69}}|Grass||Common}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Kakuna|33}}|Grass||Uncommon}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|1|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Beedrill|17}}|Grass||Rare}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|3|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Nidoran♂|55}}|Grass||Common}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|1|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Nidorino|37}}|Grass||Uncommon}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|3|{{TCG ID|Vending|Venonat|S3}}|Grass||Common}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|3|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Tangela|66}}|Grass||Uncommon}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Fossil|Energy Search|59}}|Trainer||Common}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Potion|94}}|Trainer||Common}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Full Heal|82}}|Trainer||Uncommon}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Bill|91}}|Trainer||Common}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|4|{{TCG ID|Jungle|Poké Ball|64}}|Trainer||Common}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|27|{{TCG|Grass Energy}}|Energy|Grass|None}}<br />
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===Poison Curse Deck===<br />
'''Poison Curse Deck''' (Japanese: '''どくばちデッキ''') is the second deck played by Brittany. Defeating Brittany while she uses this deck gets the player a {{GB|2|Beginning Pokémon}} booster pack and a {{GB|2|Psychic Battle}} booster pack.<br />
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Brittany begins using this deck<!--after the capture of [[GR Castle]] / the [[GR Lightning Fort]]--> at some point late in the story, at which point she will always play with this decklist.<br />
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{{decklist/header}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|4|{{TCG ID|Vending|Weedle|S1}}|Grass||Common}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|3|{{TCG ID|Vending|Kakuna|S1}}|Grass||Uncommon}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Beedrill|17}}|Grass||Rare}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Jungle|Bellsprout|49}}|Grass||Common}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Jungle|Weepinbell|48}}|Grass||Uncommon}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Jungle|Victreebel|14}}|Grass||Rare Holo}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|3|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Tangela|66}}|Grass||Uncommon}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|3|{{TCG ID|GB|Tangela|1}}|Grass||Uncommon}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Vending|Scyther|S3}}|Grass||Rare}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Jungle|Pinsir|9}}|Grass||Rare Holo}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Energy Removal|92}}|Trainer||Common}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|1|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Professor Oak|88}}|Trainer||Uncommon}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Potion|94}}|Trainer||Common}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Super Energy Removal|79}}|Trainer||Rare}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Defender|80}}|Trainer||Uncommon}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Switch|95}}|Trainer||Common}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|1|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Bill|91}}|Trainer||Common}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|1|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Double Colorless Energy|96}}|Energy|Colorless|Uncommon}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|25|{{TCG|Grass Energy}}|Energy|Grass|None}}<br />
{{decklist/footer}}<br />
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{{Club Members}}<br />
{{Project CharacterDex notice}}<br />
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{{DEFAULTSORT:Brittany}}<br />
[[Category:Female characters]]<br />
<br />
[[de:Clubmitglied Britta]]</div>
Poppy Appletree
https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Kristin_(TCG_GB)&diff=2884123
Kristin (TCG GB)
2018-11-21T11:07:34Z
<p>Poppy Appletree: Cleaning up run-on sentence</p>
<hr />
<div>'''Kristin''' (Japanese: '''ハルナ''' ''Haruna'') is one of the three Club Members from the [[Grass Club]], under [[Club Master Nikki]], in {{ga|Pokémon Trading Card Game}}.<br />
<br />
==In {{ga|Pokémon Trading Card Game}}==<br />
[[Image:TCG1 Kristin.png|thumb|right]]<br />
The player is required to battle with Kristin, in a 4 prize card match, in order to challenge Club Master Nikki. Upon defeat, Kristin awards the player with two {{GB|1|Evolution}} booster packs.<br />
<br />
==={{TCG|Flower Garden Deck}}===<br />
{{decklist/header}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|3|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Bulbasaur|44}}|Grass||Common}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Ivysaur|30}}|Grass||Uncommon}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Venusaur|15}}|Grass||Rare Holo}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|3|{{TCG ID|Jungle|Oddish|58}}|Grass||Common}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Jungle|Gloom|37}}|Grass||Uncommon}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Jungle|Vileplume|15}}|Grass||Rare Holo}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Jungle|Bellsprout|49}}|Grass||Common}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|1|{{TCG ID|Jungle|Weepinbell|48}}|Grass||Uncommon}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|1|{{TCG ID|Jungle|Victreebel|14}}|Grass||Rare Holo}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|GB|Tangela|1}}|Grass||Common}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|1|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Tangela|66}}|Grass||Common}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Jungle|Lickitung|38}}|Colorless||Uncommon}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Pokémon Trader|77}}|Trainer||Rare}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|3|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Pokémon Breeder|76}}|Trainer||Rare}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|1|{{TCG ID|Fossil|Energy Search|59}}|Trainer||Common}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Switch|95}}|Trainer||Common}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Potion|94}}|Trainer||Common}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|1|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Full Heal|82}}|Trainer||Uncommon}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|24|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Grass Energy|99}}|Energy|Grass|None}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Double Colorless Energy|96}}|Energy|Colorless|None}}<br />
{{decklist/footer}}<br />
<br />
==In [[Pokémon Card GB2: Here Comes Team GR!]]==<br />
===Glittering Scales Deck===<br />
'''Glittering Scales Deck''' (Japanese: '''かがやくりんぷんデッキ''') is the only deck played by Kristen in a 4 prize card match. Defeating Kristin gets the player a {{GB|2|Legendary Power}} booster pack.<br />
<br />
Kristin initially will not battle the player. If the player speaks to her in the communications room while [[GR-2]] is in control of the Grass Club, she will give the player a free Legendary Power booster pack. After [[GR-3]] leaves the [[Water Club]], Kristin will have this deck ready for battle. If GR-3 leaves the Water Club before the Grass Club is freed, Kristin will be ready to battle immediately following the Grass Club being freed.<br />
<br />
{{decklist/header}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|3|{{TCG ID|Bulbasaur Deck|Bulbasaur|1}}|Grass||Uncommon}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Bulbasaur Deck|Ivysaur|22}}|Grass||Uncommon}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|4|{{TCG ID|Vending|Venonat|S3}}|Grass||Common}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|3|{{TCG ID|Jungle|Venomoth|13}}|Grass||Rare Holo}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|3|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Tangela|66}}|Grass||Uncommon}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Vending|Scyther|S3}}|Grass||Rare}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Jungle|Jigglypuff|54}}|Colorless||Common}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|1|{{TCG ID|Jungle|Wigglytuff|16}}|Colorless||Rare Holo}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|1|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Chansey|3}}|Colorless||Rare Holo}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|1|{{TCG ID|Jungle|Kangaskhan|5}}|Colorless||Rare Holo}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Porygon|39}}|Colorless||Uncommon}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Energy Removal|92}}|Trainer||Common}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|1|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Professor Oak|88}}|Trainer||Uncommon}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|3|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Potion|94}}|Trainer||Common}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Gust of Wind|93}}|Trainer||Common}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Full Heal|82}}|Trainer||Uncommon}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Bill|91}}|Trainer||Common}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|24|{{TCG|Grass Energy}}|Energy|Grass|None}}<br />
{{decklist/footer}}<br />
<br />
{{Club Members}}<br />
{{Project CharacterDex notice}}<br />
[[Category:Female characters]]<br />
<br />
[[de:Clubmitglied Laura]]</div>
Poppy Appletree
https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Heather_(TCG_GB)&diff=2884122
Heather (TCG GB)
2018-11-21T11:07:11Z
<p>Poppy Appletree: Cleaning up run-on sentence</p>
<hr />
<div>'''Heather''' (Japanese: '''ミサオ''' ''Misao'') is one of the three Club Members from the [[Grass Club]], under [[Club Master Nikki]], in {{ga|Pokémon Trading Card Game}}<br />
<br />
==In {{ga|Pokémon Trading Card Game}}==<br />
[[Image:TCG1 Heather.png|thumb|right]]<br />
The player is required to battle with Heather, in a 4 prize card match, in order to challenge Club Master Nikki. Upon defeat, Heather awards the player with two {{GB|1|Colosseum}} booster packs.<br />
<br />
==={{TCG|Kaleidoscope Deck}}===<br />
{{decklist/header}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|3|{{TCG ID|Jungle|Venonat|63}}|Grass||Common}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Jungle|Venomoth|13}}|Grass||Rare Holo}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|1|{{TCG ID|GB|Flareon|1}}|Fire||Uncommon}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|1|{{TCG ID|Jungle|Flareon|3}}|Fire||Rare Holo}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|1|{{TCG ID|GB|Vaporeon|1}}|Water||Uncommon}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|1|{{TCG ID|Jungle|Vaporeon|12}}|Water||Rare Holo}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|1|{{TCG ID|GB|Jolteon|1}}|Lightning||Uncommon}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|1|{{TCG ID|Jungle|Jolteon|4}}|Lightning||Rare Holo}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|4|{{TCG ID|GB|Ditto|1}}|Colorless||Rare}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|4|{{TCG ID|Jungle|Eevee|51}}|Colorless||Common}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|4|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Porygon|39}}|Colorless||Uncommon}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Bill|91}}|Trainer||Common}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Fossil|Mr. Fuji|58}}|Trainer||Uncommon}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Fossil|Energy Search|59}}|Trainer||Common}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|4|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Switch|95}}|Trainer||Common}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Gust of Wind|93}}|Trainer||Common}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|10|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Grass Energy|99}}|Energy|Grass|None}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|4|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Fire Energy|98}}|Energy|Fire|None}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|4|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Water Energy|102}}|Energy|Water|None}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|4|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Lightning Energy|100}}|Energy|Lightning|None}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|3|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Double Colorless Energy|96}}|Energy|Colorless|None}}<br />
{{decklist/footer}}<br />
<br />
==In [[Pokémon Card GB2: Here Comes Team GR!]]==<br />
===Steady Increase Deck===<br />
'''Steady Increase Deck''' (Japanese: '''ドンドンぞうしょくデッキ''') is the deck played by Heather in a 4 prize card match. Defeating Heather gets the player an {{GB|2|Island of Fossil}} booster pack.<br />
<br />
Heather is available to battle at some point later in the game after the player can access [[GR Island]]. Before the Grass Club is freed from [[GR-2]], the player can speak to Heather in the communications room and obtain a free Island of Fossil booster pack.<br />
<br />
This deck is also available in Autodeck Machine 1 for the player to build automatically.<br />
<br />
{{decklist/header}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|4|{{TCG ID|Jungle|Oddish|58}}|Grass||Common}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|3|{{TCG ID|Jungle|Gloom|37}}|Grass||Uncommon}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Jungle|Vileplume|15}}|Grass||Rare Holo}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|4|{{TCG ID|Vending|Paras|S1}}|Grass||Common}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|3|{{TCG ID|Vending|Parasect|S1}}|Grass||Uncommon}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|4|{{TCG ID|Jungle|Bellsprout|49}}|Grass||Common}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|3|{{TCG ID|Jungle|Weepinbell|48}}|Grass||Uncommon}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|3|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Energy Retrieval|81}}|Trainer||Uncommon}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|1|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Professor Oak|88}}|Trainer||Uncommon}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Potion|94}}|Trainer||Common}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Defender|80}}|Trainer||Uncommon}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Full Heal|82}}|Trainer||Uncommon}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|4|{{TCG ID|Fossil|Mr. Fuji|58}}|Trainer||Uncommon}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|23|{{TCG|Grass Energy}}|Energy|Grass}}<br />
{{decklist/footer}}<br />
<br />
{{Club Members}}<br />
{{Project CharacterDex notice}}<br />
[[Category:Female characters]]<br />
<br />
[[de:Clubmitglied Vanessa]]</div>
Poppy Appletree
https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Jonathan_(TCG_GB)&diff=2884120
Jonathan (TCG GB)
2018-11-21T11:05:48Z
<p>Poppy Appletree: Incomplete sentence</p>
<hr />
<div>'''Jonathan''' (Japanese: '''マサトシ''' ''Masatoshi'') is one of the three Club Members from the [[Fire Club]], under [[Club Master Ken]], in {{ga|Pokémon Trading Card Game}}.<br />
<br />
==In {{ga|Pokémon Trading Card Game}}==<br />
[[File:TCG1 Jonathan.png|thumb]]<br />
This person challenges the player to a 4 prize card match.<br />
<br />
Upon defeat, Jonathan awards the player with two {{GB|1|Colosseum}} booster packs.<br />
<br />
==={{TCG|Reshuffle Deck}}===<br />
{{decklist/header}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Ponyta|60}}|Fire||Common}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|4|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Vulpix|68}}|Fire||Common}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|3|{{TCG ID|GB|Ninetales|1}}|Fire||Rare}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Growlithe|28}}|Fire||Uncommon}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|1|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Arcanine|23}}|Fire||Uncommon}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|4|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Pidgey|57}}|Colorless||Common}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|3|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Pidgeotto|22}}|Colorless||Rare}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|GB|Pidgeot|1}}|Colorless||Rare}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|1|{{TCG ID|GB|Jigglypuff|1}}|Colorless||Common}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|1|{{TCG ID|Jungle|Wigglytuff|16}}|Colorless||Rare Holo}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Jungle|Lickitung|38}}|Colorless||Uncommon}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|1|{{TCG ID|Jungle|Kangaskhan|5}}|Colorless||Rare Holo}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|1|{{TCG ID|Jungle|Tauros|47}}|Colorless||Uncommon}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Bill|91}}|Trainer||Common}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Energy Retrieval|81}}|Trainer||Uncommon}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|1|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Energy Removal|92}}|Trainer||Common}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|1|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Super Energy Removal|79}}|Trainer||Rare}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Switch|95}}|Trainer||Common}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|3|{{TCG|Double Colorless Energy}}|Energy|Colorless|Uncommon}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|23|{{TCG|Fire Energy}}|Energy|Fire}}<br />
{{decklist/footer}}<br />
<br />
==In [[Pokémon Card GB2: Here Comes Team GR!]]==<br />
===Immortal Flame Deck===<br />
<br />
'''Immortal Flame Deck''' (Japanese: '''ふめつのほのおデッキ''') is the only deck played by Jonathan, played as a 4 prize card match. Defeating Jonathan gets the player two {{GB|2|Legendary Power}} booster packs.<br />
<br />
Jonathan starts the game trapped in a cage with the other Fire Club members. After [[GR-3]] is defeated for the second time, he leaves the Fire Club and all members are freed. Jonathan can be battled immediately upon revisiting the club.<br />
<br />
{{decklist/header}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|4|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Charmander|46}}|Fire||Common}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|3|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Charmeleon|24}}|Fire||Uncommon}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|4|{{TCG ID|Squirtle Deck|Growlithe|26}}|Fire||Uncommon}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|3|{{TCG ID|Squirtle Deck|Arcanine|32}}|Fire||Rare}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|3|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Magmar|36}}|Fire||Uncommon}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Jungle|Flareon|3}}|Fire||Rare Holo}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Jungle|Kangaskhan|5}}|Colorless||Rare Holo}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|3|{{TCG ID|Jungle|Eevee|51}}|Colorless||Common}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|4|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Energy Retrieval|81}}|Trainer||Uncommon}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|1|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Professor Oak|88}}|Trainer||Uncommon}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Potion|94}}|Trainer||Common}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Full Heal|82}}|Trainer||Uncommon}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Bill|91}}|Trainer||Common}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|25|{{TCG|Fire Energy}}|Energy|Fire|None}}<br />
{{decklist/footer}}<br />
<br />
==In other languages==<br />
{{langtable|color={{tcg fire color}}|bordercolor={{tcg fire color dark}}<br />
|de=Peter<br />
|es=Genaro<br />
|fr=Jonathan<br />
|it=Jonathan<br />
}}<br />
<br />
<br />
{{Club Members}}<br />
{{Project CharacterDex notice}}<br />
<br />
{{DEFAULTSORT:Jonathan}}<br />
[[Category:Male characters]]<br />
<br />
[[de:Clubmitglied Peter]]</div>
Poppy Appletree
https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=John_(TCG_GB)&diff=2884119
John (TCG GB)
2018-11-21T11:05:34Z
<p>Poppy Appletree: Incomplete sentence</p>
<hr />
<div>:''For other uses for "John", see [[John]].''<br />
----<br />
'''John''' (Japanese: '''タカシ''' ''Takashi'') is one of the three Club Members from the [[Fire Club]], under [[Club Master Ken]], in {{ga|Pokémon Trading Card Game}}.<br />
<br />
==In {{ga|Pokémon Trading Card Game}}==<br />
[[File:TCG1 John.png|thumb|left]]<br />
This person challenges the player to a 4 prize card match.<br />
<br />
Upon defeat, this person awards the player with two {{GB|1|Evolution}} booster packs.<br />
<br />
==={{TCG|Anger Deck}}===<br />
{{decklist/header}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|3|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Growlithe|28}}|Fire||Uncommon}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Wizards Promo|Arcanine|6}}|Fire||Uncommon}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|3|{{TCG ID|Jungle|Cubone|50}}|Fighting||Common}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Rattata|61}}|Colorless||Common}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Raticate|40}}|Colorless||Uncommon}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|3|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Doduo|48}}|Colorless||Uncommon}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Jungle|Dodrio|34}}|Colorless||Uncommon}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|3|{{TCG ID|Jungle|Tauros|47}}|Colorless||Uncommon}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Professor Oak|88}}|Trainer||Uncommon}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|3|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Bill|91}}|Trainer||Common}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Energy Retrieval|81}}|Trainer||Uncommon}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Computer Search|71}}|Trainer||Rare}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|4|{{TCG ID|Base Set|PlusPower|84}}|Trainer||Uncommon}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Defender|80}}|Trainer||Uncommon}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Gust of Wind|93}}|Trainer||Common}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|4|{{TCG|Double Colorless Energy}}|Energy|Colorless|Uncommon}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|10|{{TCG|Fire Energy}}|Energy|Fire}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|8|{{TCG|Fighting Energy}}|Energy|Fighting}}<br />
{{decklist/footer}}<br />
<br />
==In [[Pokémon Card GB2: Here Comes Team GR!]]==<br />
===Flame Festival Deck===<br />
<br />
'''Flame Festival Deck''' (Japanese: '''ほのおのおまつりデッキ''') is the only deck played by John, played as a 4 prize card match. Defeating John gets the player two {{GB|2|Psychic Battle}} booster packs.<br />
<br />
John starts the game trapped in a cage with the other Fire Club members. After [[GR-3]] is defeated for the second time, he leaves the Fire Club and all members are freed. John still cannot be battled at this point, but will be able to accept challenges<!--after the capture of the [[GR Lightning Fort]]--> at some point after the player can access [[GR Island]].<br />
<br />
This deck is also available in Autodeck Machine 1 for the player to build automatically when the Fire Club is free.<br />
<br />
{{decklist/header}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|4|{{TCG ID|Vending|Vulpix|S3}}|Fire||Common}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|3|{{TCG ID|GB|Ninetales|1}}|Fire||Rare}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Vending|Growlithe|S3}}|Fire||Common}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|1|{{TCG ID|Toyota|Arcanine|promo}}|Fire||None}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|4|{{TCG ID|Vending|Ponyta|S3}}|Fire||Common}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|3|{{TCG ID|Vending|Rapidash|S1}}|Fire||Uncommon}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Vending|Magmar|S3}}|Fire||Common}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Fossil|Magmar|39}}|Fire||Uncommon}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|CoroCoro|Meowth|promo}}|Colorless||None}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|3|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Energy Retrieval|81}}|Trainer||Uncommon}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Potion|94}}|Trainer||Common}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|1|{{TCG ID|Fan Book|Super Energy Retrieval|promo}}|Trainer||None}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Impostor Professor Oak|73}}|Trainer||Rare}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|3|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Bill|91}}|Trainer||Common}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|26|{{TCG|Fire Energy}}|Energy|Fire|None}}<br />
{{decklist/footer}}<br />
<br />
{{Club Members}}<br />
{{Project CharacterDex notice}}<br />
<br />
{{DEFAULTSORT:John}}<br />
[[Category:Male characters]]<br />
<br />
[[de:Clubmitglied Tom]]</div>
Poppy Appletree
https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Adam_(TCG_GB)&diff=2884118
Adam (TCG GB)
2018-11-21T11:05:04Z
<p>Poppy Appletree: Phrasing</p>
<hr />
<div>'''Adam''' (Japanese: '''ワタルン''' ''Watarun'') is one of the three Club Members from the [[Fire Club]], under [[Club Master Ken]], in {{ga|Pokémon Trading Card Game}}.<br />
<br />
==In {{ga|Pokémon Trading Card Game}}==<br />
[[File:TCG1 Adam.png|thumb|left]]<br />
This person challenges the player to a 4 prize card match.<br />
<br />
Upon defeat, Adam awards the player with two {{GB|1|Colosseum}} booster packs.<br />
<br />
==={{TCG|Flamethrower Deck}}===<br />
{{decklist/header}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Charmander|46}}|Fire||Common}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Charmeleon|24}}|Fire||Uncommon}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|1|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Charizard|4}}|Fire||Rare Holo}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Vulpix|68}}|Fire||Common}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|1|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Ninetales|12}}|Fire||Rare Holo}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Growlithe|28}}|Fire||Uncommon}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|1|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Arcanine|23}}|Fire||Uncommon}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|3|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Magmar|36}}|Fire||Uncommon}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Jungle|Flareon|3}}|Fire||Uncommon}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|3|{{TCG ID|Jungle|Eevee|51}}|Colorless||Common}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|3|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Bill|91}}|Trainer||Common}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|1|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Pokémon Trader|77}}|Trainer||Uncommon}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|3|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Energy Retrieval|81}}|Trainer||Uncommon}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|1|{{TCG ID|Neo Genesis|Super Energy Retrieval|89}}|Trainer||Rare}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Switch|95}}|Trainer||Common}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|PlusPower|84}}|Trainer||Uncommon}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|3|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Gust of Wind|93}}|Trainer||Common}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|4|{{TCG|Double Colorless Energy}}|Energy|Colorless|Uncommon}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|22|{{TCG|Fire Energy}}|Energy|Fire}}<br />
{{decklist/footer}}<br />
<br />
==In [[Pokémon Card GB2: Here Comes Team GR!]]==<br />
===Electric Current Shock Deck===<br />
<br />
'''Electric Current Shock Deck''' (Japanese: '''でんりゅうひばなデッキ''') is the only deck played by Adam, played as a 4 prize card match. Defeating Adam awards the player a {{GB|2|Beginning Pokémon}} booster pack.<br />
<br />
Adam starts the game trapped in a cage with the other Fire Club members. After [[GR-3]] is defeated for the second time, he leaves the Fire Club and all members are freed. Adam can be battled immediately upon revisiting the club.<br />
<br />
{{decklist/header}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|4|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Vulpix|68}}|Fire||Common}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Ninetales|12}}|Fire||Rare Holo}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|4|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Ponyta|60}}|Fire||Common}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|3|{{TCG ID|Jungle|Rapidash|44}}|Fire||Uncommon}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|1|{{TCG ID|Fossil|Moltres|12}}|Fire||Rare Holo}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Jungle|Pikachu|60}}|Lightning||Common}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|1|{{TCG ID|Fossil|Raichu|14}}|Lightning||Rare Holo}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|3|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Magnemite|53}}|Lightning||Common}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Vending|Magneton|S2}}|Lightning||Rare}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Energy Retrieval|81}}|Trainer||Uncommon}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Fossil|Energy Search|59}}|Trainer||Common}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Professor Oak|88}}|Trainer||Uncommon}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Switch|95}}|Trainer||Common}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Bill|91}}|Trainer||Common}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|16|{{TCG|Fire Energy}}|Energy|Fire|None}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|12|{{TCG|Lightning Energy}}|Energy|Lightning|None}}<br />
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{{Club Members}}<br />
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Poppy Appletree
https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Adam_(TCG_GB)&diff=2884117
Adam (TCG GB)
2018-11-21T11:04:19Z
<p>Poppy Appletree: Incomplete sentence</p>
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<div>'''Adam''' (Japanese: '''ワタルン''' ''Watarun'') is one of the three Club Members from the [[Fire Club]], under [[Club Master Ken]], in {{ga|Pokémon Trading Card Game}}.<br />
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==In {{ga|Pokémon Trading Card Game}}==<br />
[[File:TCG1 Adam.png|thumb|left]]<br />
This person challenges the player to a 4 prize card match.<br />
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Upon defeat, Adam awards the player with two {{GB|1|Colosseum}} booster packs.<br />
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==={{TCG|Flamethrower Deck}}===<br />
{{decklist/header}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Charmander|46}}|Fire||Common}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Charmeleon|24}}|Fire||Uncommon}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|1|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Charizard|4}}|Fire||Rare Holo}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Vulpix|68}}|Fire||Common}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|1|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Ninetales|12}}|Fire||Rare Holo}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Growlithe|28}}|Fire||Uncommon}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|1|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Arcanine|23}}|Fire||Uncommon}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|3|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Magmar|36}}|Fire||Uncommon}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Jungle|Flareon|3}}|Fire||Uncommon}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|3|{{TCG ID|Jungle|Eevee|51}}|Colorless||Common}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|3|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Bill|91}}|Trainer||Common}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|1|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Pokémon Trader|77}}|Trainer||Uncommon}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|3|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Energy Retrieval|81}}|Trainer||Uncommon}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|1|{{TCG ID|Neo Genesis|Super Energy Retrieval|89}}|Trainer||Rare}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Switch|95}}|Trainer||Common}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|PlusPower|84}}|Trainer||Uncommon}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|3|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Gust of Wind|93}}|Trainer||Common}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|4|{{TCG|Double Colorless Energy}}|Energy|Colorless|Uncommon}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|22|{{TCG|Fire Energy}}|Energy|Fire}}<br />
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==In [[Pokémon Card GB2: Here Comes Team GR!]]==<br />
===Electric Current Shock Deck===<br />
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'''Electric Current Shock Deck''' (Japanese: '''でんりゅうひばなデッキ''') is the only deck played by Adam, played as a 4 prize card match. Defeating Adam gets the player a {{GB|2|Beginning Pokémon}} booster pack.<br />
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Adam starts the game trapped in a cage with the other Fire Club members. After [[GR-3]] is defeated for the second time, he leaves the Fire Club and all members are freed. Adam can be battled immediately upon revisiting the club.<br />
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{{decklist/header}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|4|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Vulpix|68}}|Fire||Common}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Ninetales|12}}|Fire||Rare Holo}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|4|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Ponyta|60}}|Fire||Common}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|3|{{TCG ID|Jungle|Rapidash|44}}|Fire||Uncommon}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|1|{{TCG ID|Fossil|Moltres|12}}|Fire||Rare Holo}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Jungle|Pikachu|60}}|Lightning||Common}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|1|{{TCG ID|Fossil|Raichu|14}}|Lightning||Rare Holo}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|3|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Magnemite|53}}|Lightning||Common}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Vending|Magneton|S2}}|Lightning||Rare}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Energy Retrieval|81}}|Trainer||Uncommon}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Fossil|Energy Search|59}}|Trainer||Common}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Professor Oak|88}}|Trainer||Uncommon}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Switch|95}}|Trainer||Common}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Bill|91}}|Trainer||Common}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|16|{{TCG|Fire Energy}}|Energy|Fire|None}}<br />
{{decklist/entry|12|{{TCG|Lightning Energy}}|Energy|Lightning|None}}<br />
{{decklist/footer}}<br />
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{{Club Members}}<br />
{{Project CharacterDex notice}}<br />
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Poppy Appletree
https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User:Poppy_Appletree&diff=2884116
User:Poppy Appletree
2018-11-21T11:01:04Z
<p>Poppy Appletree: </p>
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=About me=<br />
<br />
I've been playing Pokémon since the release of Red and Blue, which at the time of writing is more than 20 years ago. I own all of the main series games, as well as a great number of side games. I collect Pokémon cards because I love the card art, and I have gained an appreciation for many Pokémon I'd otherwise never consider (such as Ducklett and Trubbish) due to great card art. Likewise, whilst I generally dislike Legendary/Mythical Pokémon and Ubers in general, sidegames have given me an appreciation for some of them. I also have a collection of Pokémon plushes, and I'm sad that the Gold and Silver remakes removed the ability to decorate your room with plush toys.<br />
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=Wiki philosophy=<br />
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I am a staunch inclusionist. Wikis are not paper encyclopaedias; you're not going to run out of paper anytime soon. <br />
<br />
I used to edit extensively on Wikipedia and wrote and expanded many pages on geeky topics like Dungeons and Dragons, but got over time I became jaded with wikis due to increasing deletionism which led to purges of such content. I find it thoroughly depressing that this trend has spread to the fan wikis which were once a haven for material considered "not notable" enough for inclusion on Wikipedia. <br />
<br />
I view trivia as an extremely important part of Bulbapedia - it's honestly one of the main things that draws me to the website. I see attempts to excise trivia sections as destroying Bulbapedia's soul, and adamantly oppose the introduction of a "no trivia" policy. This website exists because of fans of the Pokémon series, and a large amount of content within the Pokémon games is a result of the creators interacting with their fans. Fandoms are at their heart a discourse between creator and consumer, and I view trying to exclude aspects which pertain to fandom as degrading to the project. Ultimately, the wiki isn't about the Pokémon <br />
franchise. It is about ''our relationship'' with a franchise that is extremely dear to us all.</div>
Poppy Appletree
https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User:Poppy_Appletree&diff=2883596
User:Poppy Appletree
2018-11-20T16:56:59Z
<p>Poppy Appletree: </p>
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{{User Favorite Type|557|Bug}}<br />
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{{User Favorite Legendary|487|Giratina|Ghost|Dragon}}<br />
{{User Favorite Mega|428|Lopunny|Normal|Fighting}}<br />
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=About me=<br />
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I've been playing Pokémon since the release of Red and Blue, which at the time of writing is more than 20 years ago. I own all of the main series games, as well as a great number of side games. I collect Pokémon cards because I love the card art, and I have gained an appreciation for many Pokémon I'd otherwise never consider (such as Ducklett and Trubbish) due to great card art. Likewise, whilst I generally dislike Legendary/Mythical Pokémon and Ubers in general, sidegames have given me an appreciation for some of them. I also have a collection of Pokémon plushes, and I'm sad that the Gold and Silver remakes removed the ability to decorate your room with plush toys.<br />
<br />
=Wiki philosophy=<br />
<br />
I am a staunch inclusionist. Wikis are not paper encyclopaedias; you're not going to run out of paper anytime soon. <br />
<br />
I used to edit extensively on Wikipedia and wrote and expanded many pages on geeky topics like Dungeons and Dragons, but got over time I became jaded with wikis due to increasing deletionism which led to purges of such content. I find it thoroughly depressing that this trend has spread to the fan wikis which were once a haven for material considered "not notable" enough for inclusion on Wikipedia. <br />
<br />
I view trivia as an extremely important part of Bulbapedia - it's honestly one of the main things that draws me to the website. I see attempts to excise trivia sections as destroying Bulbapedia's soul, and adamantly oppose the introduction of a "no trivia" policy. This website exists because of fans of the Pokémon series, and a large amount of content within the Pokémon games is a result of the creators interacting with their fans. Fandoms are at their heart a discourse between creator and consumer, and I view trying to exclude aspects which pertain to fandom as degrading to the project. Ultimately, the wiki isn't about the Pokémon <br />
franchise. It is about ''our relationship'' with a franchise that is extremely dear to us all.</div>
Poppy Appletree
https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User:Poppy_Appletree&diff=2883586
User:Poppy Appletree
2018-11-20T16:19:54Z
<p>Poppy Appletree: </p>
<hr />
<div>=About me=<br />
<br />
I've been playing Pokémon since the release of Red and Blue, which at the time of writing is more than 20 years ago. I own all of the main series games, as well as a great number of side games. I collect Pokémon cards because I love the card art, and I have gained an appreciation for many Pokémon I'd otherwise never consider (such as Ducklett and Trubbish) due to great card art. Likewise, whilst I generally dislike Legendary/Mythical Pokémon and Ubers in general, sidegames have given me an appreciation for some of them. I also have a collection of Pokémon plushes, and I'm sad that the Gold and Silver remakes removed the ability to decorate your room with plush toys.<br />
<br />
=Wiki philosophy=<br />
<br />
I am a staunch inclusionist. Wikis are not paper encyclopaedias; you're not going to run out of paper anytime soon. <br />
<br />
I used to edit extensively on Wikipedia and wrote and expanded many pages on geeky topics like Dungeons and Dragons, but got over time I became jaded with wikis due to increasing deletionism which led to purges of such content. I find it thoroughly depressing that this trend has spread to the fan wikis which were once a haven for material considered "not notable" enough for inclusion on Wikipedia. <br />
<br />
I view trivia as an extremely important part of Bulbapedia - it's honestly one of the main things that draws me to the website. I see attempts to excise trivia sections as destroying Bulbapedia's soul, and adamantly oppose the introduction of a "no trivia" policy. This website exists because of fans of the Pokémon series, and a large amount of content within the Pokémon games is a result of the creators interacting with their fans. Fandoms are at their heart a discourse between creator and consumer, and I view trying to exclude aspects which pertain to fandom as degrading to the project. Ultimately, the wiki isn't about the Pokémon franchise. It is about ''our relationship'' with a franchise that is extremely dear to us all.</div>
Poppy Appletree
https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Poppy_Appletree&diff=2883579
User talk:Poppy Appletree
2018-11-20T15:47:14Z
<p>Poppy Appletree: /* Edit Warring */</p>
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[[LLT|Use them.]]----'''''無限の知性''''' ◎ [[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#BF0B17">DENNOU</font>]]'''[[Special:Random|◆]]'''[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#1250A6">ZENSHI</font>]] 16:38, 28 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Edit Warring ==<br />
Please do not revert or add back information that was removed, it constitutes as [[edit warring]] and is a blockable offense. If you have a problem with an edit, take it up to the talk page of the disputed article or the user that reverted you. Thank you. --[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 14:47, 20 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:: ''You'' are the one edit warring. I have sought discussion at all points and provided documentation to support my case, whereas you have ignored this in favour of your own opinion. Suffice to say, I think your actions are extremely inappropriate. You are exactly the type of person who should not be given power, and the reason I rarely edit wikis these days. I have contacted Dennou and Kogoro for comment and oversight. --[[User:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] [[User talk:Poppy Appletree|:3]] 14:58, 20 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
::: Please remove this comment from my page, or I will. As you are participating in an edit war, it is a conflict of interest and abuse of power for you to issue a warning to the person you are warring with. I have consistently sought dialogue, so to suggest that I have not already taken the actions you suggest is simply insulting. --[[User:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] [[User talk:Poppy Appletree|:3]] 15:16, 20 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::: Read the {{bp|Talk page policy}}. You '''cannot''' removed talk page comments. And as a matter of fact, you did edit war. You added it, it got removed by Finnish. Added it back again, I removed it. You then added it again after I took a while to respond. Is that not edit warring?.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 15:29, 20 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::: That's rich, given that you removed ''my'' talk page comments. Please excuse yourself from this matter and let someone else handle it. --Poppy Appletree 15:31, 20 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::: Additionally, you have entirely ignored the substance of my correspondence with Finnish. We successfully resolved our edit dispute without admin input and I offered discourse and civility at all points. You then came in and began engaging in unilateral action without discussion. You have directed personal attacks towards me and issued warnings for things which you yourself are guilty, whilst I have (despite my frustration with your actions) provided documentation to support my position. --Poppy Appletree 15:47, 20 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Learn some patience ==<br />
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Rather than going around and spamming every other staff member's talk page, you can actually wait for me or someone else to respond. Spamming other staff member's talk pages just because I take a while to respond doesn't help you. Just wait a few minutes.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 14:59, 20 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
: I will not tolerate personal attacks, thank you. I am not "spamming" their pages, I am seeking alternative opinions because you are behaving inappropriately. --[[User:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] [[User talk:Poppy Appletree|:3]] 15:01, 20 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:: Also, by a "few minutes" do you mean more than 20? That is hardly a reasonable amount of time to wait for a person to provide an explanation for their actions - perhaps you should learn to use edit summaries instead of using default revert comments? --[[User:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] [[User talk:Poppy Appletree|:3]] 15:02, 20 November 2018 (UTC)</div>
Poppy Appletree
https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Sea_Cottage&diff=2883574
Talk:Sea Cottage
2018-11-20T15:36:22Z
<p>Poppy Appletree: /* Inclusion of Bill's Secret Garden rumour */</p>
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<div>==Merge with Sea Cottage and Bill's Lighthouse?==<br />
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Cerulean Cape and Sea Cottage are both stub articles. Bill's Lighthouse, while not a stub, is still quite short. All three deal with essentially the same material, though Bill's Lighthouse is only in the Anime, while the Sea Cottage is in the games and other canon. I think the three articles should be merge to flesh out one larger, better article that deals with Cerulean Cape and it's landmark of the Sea Cottage/Lighthouse as a whole rather than split into three small articles. [[User:Kumori Satosuke|Satosuke]] 14:51, 8 October 2008 (UTC)<br />
:I agree. [[User:Ht14|<span style="color:#D5AA00"><sup>''ht''</sup></span>]][[User talk:Ht14|<span style="color:#C0C0C0"><small>''14''</small></span>]] 13:55, 17 February 2009 (UTC)<br />
::I brought it up {{red link|Talk:Sea Cottage|here}} and I'm going to do it again. I agree as well.--[[User:Clarky13|<span style="color:#0000FF;">'''Clarky'''</span>]][[User talk:Clarky13|<span style="color:#000000;">'''13'''</span>]] 14:02, 17 February 2009 (UTC)<br />
:::I agree merging Sea Cottage with this one, but not sure of Bill's Lighthouse. We have tons of anime-exclusive location, so that one might belong to those. '''<span style="color:#A2958D">►</span>[[User:Kevzo8|<span style="color:#E3E3E3">Ҝə</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|<span style="color:#E6E6EE">υz</span>]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|<span style="color:#BBBBBB">ø8</span>]]''' 14:15, 17 February 2009 (UTC)<br />
::::I'll Do this now. But what should we call it?--[[User:Clarky13|<span style="color:#0000FF;">'''Clarky'''</span>]][[User talk:Clarky13|<span style="color:#000000;">'''13'''</span>]] 14:16, 17 February 2009 (UTC)<br />
:::::Cerulean Cape is fine. Just, um, redirect the old page to the new one next time you merge something :D &mdash; <small>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<font color="#0000C8">THE TROM</font></small>]] &mdash; 05:35, 18 February 2009 (UTC)<br />
::::::Yep. Got a bit into a edit war with that, but I added info to thee pages. :D--[[User:Clarky13|<span style="color:#0000FF;">'''Clarky'''</span>]][[User talk:Clarky13|<span style="color:#000000;">'''13'''</span>]] 05:50, 18 February 2009 (UTC)<br />
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==Merge with Cerulean Cape and Bill's Lighthouse?==<br />
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Cerulean Cape and Sea Cottage are both stub articles. Bill's Lighthouse, while not a stub, is still quite short. All three deal with essentially the same material, though Bill's Lighthouse is only in the Anime, while the Sea Cottage is in the games and other canon. I think the three articles should be merge to flesh out one larger, better article that deals with Cerulean Cape and it's landmark of the Sea Cottage/Lighthouse as a whole rather than split into three small articles. [[User:Kumori Satosuke|Satosuke]] 14:51, 8 October 2008 (UTC)<br />
:I am going to bring this up again. Satosuke makes a valid point, [[Bill's Lighthouse]] and Sea Cottage are both very short articles.--[[User:Clarky13|<span style="color:#0000FF;">'''Clarky'''</span>]][[User talk:Clarky13|<span style="color:#000000;">'''13'''</span>]] 13:32, 11 February 2009 (UTC)<br />
::The main discussion for this topic is located [[Talk:Sea Cottage#Merge with Sea Cottage and Bill's Lighthouse?|here]]. &mdash; <small>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<font color="#0000C8">THE TROM</font></small>]] &mdash; 05:35, 18 February 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Bill's Grandpa ==<br />
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Okay, so I've shown Bill's grandpa all the pokemon he asks to see (in HGSS). Here's the list of pokemon and the stones you get in return:<br />
* Lickitung - Everstone<br />
* Oddish - Leaf Stone<br />
* Staryu - Water Stone<br />
* Vulpix - Fire Stone (in SS, possibly Growlithe in HG)<br />
* Pichu - Thunderstone<br />
Is this information worth including in this article? --[[User:Oatzy|Oatzy]] 22:04, 9 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
:I had to show him a Jigglypuff to get an Everstone, not a Lickitung. Could it be because we're playing different versions? I'm using HeartGold. --[[User:Paranoid Trainer|Paranoid Trainer]] 23:30, 10 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
::Yeah, probably is. I'm playing SoulSilver. Do you know if any of the others different?<br />
:::Well, Oddish and Pichu are definitely correct, and your Growlithe guess was on the money, but instead of a Staryu I'm being asked for a Marill. Or at least, the description matches Marill perfectly (round and blue, with a white belly and a floating tail end), but since I don't have one yet I can't confirm it yet. --[[User:Paranoid Trainer|Paranoid Trainer]] 00:05, 12 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::Sounds about right, yeah. What was the order he asked to see them in?--[[User:Oatzy|Oatzy]] 13:46, 14 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
:I have HeartGold, and can confirm that he asks for the Oddish first. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 15:06, 14 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
::I just confirmed Marill in HG. Oddish was first for me as well, followed by either Jigglypuff and Growlithe, and then the other. Sadly I can't recall with of them was second and which was third, but I'm almost certain Pichu was the 4th and Marill was definitely the last. --[[User:Paranoid Trainer|Paranoid Trainer]] 01:46, 15 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::Haven't gotten the Water Stone part yet, but in HG for me, it was Oddish, Growlithe, Jigglypuff, Pichu. [[User:Kumori Satosuke|Satosuke]] 17:47, 11 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== SS Anne ticket ==<br />
Shouldn't this item be on the item list for R/B/Y and FR/LG? [[User:Moltres93|Moltres93]] 10:22, 21 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Inclusion of Bill's Secret Garden rumour ==<br />
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I have added a section regarding the Bill's Secret Garden rumour. This is one of the most infamous rumours in Pokémon history, on par with [[the truck]] and [[Mewthree]], and I believe this should remain in the article. To this day articles are written about this - see the following links: [https://www.gamesradar.com/uk/rumors-everyone-believed-about-pokemon/] [https://www.techradar.com/uk/news/gaming/gotta-debunk-em-all-the-pokemon-rumors-and-urban-legends-we-all-fell-for-1315898] [https://www.thegamer.com/pokemon-areas-that-are-impossible-to-find-and-how-to-find-them/][https://www.thegamer.com/pokemon-areas-that-are-impossible-to-find-and-how-to-find-them/]. I genuinely think it cheapens the wiki not to mention the existence of this rumour, especially when it was seemingly referenced in the Generation IV games with the [[Trophy Garden]], similar to how the truck had a hidden [[lava cookie]] added as a nod to the rumours in FRLG. --[[User:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] [[User talk:Poppy Appletree|:3]] 12:53, 20 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:All those sites are clickbait sites on par with buzzfeed and does not make it "infamous". The Mew rumor is the most well known rumor of the three, while Mewthree is part of the Fakemon article, so I treat that as talking about "Mewthree the fakemon" and not "Mewthree the rumor". The "Secret Garden" is just not as well known as the other two.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 13:49, 20 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:: Since you seem keen to ignore how widespread and well-known this rumour is, I have compiled a (non-exhaustive) mentions of the rumour, which you can see below. Several of these include people ''still'' spreading the rumour more than 20 years later, so it's almost negligent not to mention it on the ''premier Pokémon wiki''.<br />
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::You can call literally anything clickbait these days because the standard of news has degraded exceptionally, but I'm honestly not sure what you're expecting with regards to Pokémon. Most traditional news sources give incorrect details about Pokémon anyway because they don't care enough to cover it properly. A bunch of those sites which have posted articles (TechRadar, GamesRadar, Syfy, Screenrant, Den of Geek, Destructoid) are very well-known sites. With the combination of those articles you would pass ''Wikipedia's'' notability standards, and they have come down hard on this kind of thing.<br />
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::The Bill's Secret Garden is notorious, long-lived, well-documented, and ''still being spread to this day''. It is notable enough for this wiki, and that will be the case regardless of what you say, because your opinion on this matter is blatantly counterfactual. As such, I am reversing your removal of the Secret Garden rumour. --[[User:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] [[User talk:Poppy Appletree|:3]] 14:31, 20 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
::[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Sea_Cottage&diff=prev&oldid=2883550 Sources].<br />
:::Firstly, please do just add back the information without a consensus. Wait until this discussion has reached a conclusion. Don't just add it back.<br />
:::Secondly, all your "evidence" isn't reliable. Especially fan related stuff... so everything but the articles. And the articles, like I said, are clickbait stuff like "ooooh, the ten thing you didn't know about Pokemon ooooh". Those articles are not reliable at all, they are opinion pieces. They may be acceptable on Wikipedia, though I don't think they are, but we are not Wikipedia. Just because we're both wikis doesn't mean we share the same rules and standards.<br />
:::Thirdly, The mew rumor is far more notorious and popular than the sea cottage rumor. It has also been blatantly referenced in the games. The sea cottage rumor is just as minor as the Lavender town rumor.-[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 14:56, 20 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
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:::: Please be aware that I consider it inapppropriate for you to have removed the sources that I posted, especially as doing so supports your own position. It is a serious breach of wiki etiquette to remove another person's comments. Relegating the information to a link which could easily be missed vastly minimises the extent of discussion that the rumour has generated. If you have concerns about length there are better ways to deal with that, and archives ''do'' exist to clean up discussions. I cannot fairly have a discussion with a person who abuses their role to issue warnings to people who disagree with them when they themselves are the offending party. As such, I would politely request that you recuse yourself from this matter due to your conflict of interest, and allow another admin to comment instead. --Poppy Appletree 15:29, 20 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
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::::: As you yourself have confirmed your own violation of the talk page policy, I am restoring the list of sources I posted below. --Poppy Appletree 15:36, 20 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
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===Articles===<br />
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https://www.complex.com/pop-culture/2013/01/the-10-most-bizarre-schoolyard-pokmon-rumors/bills-gardenmountainforrest<br />
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https://www.grunge.com/32359/false-facts-pokemon-always-thought-true/<br />
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http://aribaa.com/2018/01/surfing-glitch-pokemon-red-blue/<br />
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https://www.techradar.com/uk/news/gaming/gotta-debunk-em-all-the-pokemon-rumors-and-urban-legends-we-all-fell-for-1315898<br />
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https://www.gamesradar.com/uk/rumors-everyone-believed-about-pokemon/<br />
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https://www.thegamer.com/pokemon-areas-that-are-impossible-to-find-and-how-to-find-them/<br />
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https://www.syfy.com/syfywire/fact-theres-a-lost-original-pokemon-game-that-americans-never-played<br />
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https://screenrant.com/pokemon-gold-silver-hidden-locations/<br />
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http://www.oldandnewtoys.com/our-blog/the-best-forgotten-pokemon-urban-legends<br />
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https://cinemashelf.com/theory-raider-1-pokemon-red-blue/<br />
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https://skirmishfrogs.com/2016/03/04/pokemon-day-week-7-top-myths-from-gen-1/<br />
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https://www.denofgeek.com/us/games/pok-mon/258818/chasing-mew-how-the-world-became-obsessed-with-pokemon<br />
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https://www.poke-blast-news.net/2015/09/5-mitos-sobre-pokemon-nos-quais-voce.html<br />
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https://www.giantbomb.com/pokemon-redblue/3030-3966/<br />
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http://www.syfygames.com/news/article/exploring-the-weird-world-of-pokmon-urban-legend-jessicafamularo<br />
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https://twinfinite.net/2016/02/10-pokemon-red-and-blue-myths-you-probably-fell-for/<br />
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===Fansites===<br />
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http://pokegods.wikia.com/wiki/Bill%27s_Secret_Garden<br />
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http://gaming-urban-legends.wikia.com/wiki/Bill%27s_Secret_Garden<br />
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https://glitchcity.info/wiki/Surf_down_glitch<br />
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https://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~jdonald/pokemon/ssanne.html<br />
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https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/UrbanLegendOfZelda/Pokemon<br />
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http://en.illogicopedia.org/wiki/Pokemon_cheats<br />
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https://www.facebook.com/BillsSecretGarden<br />
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http://floatzel.net/pokemon/pokemon_rumors.htm<br />
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http://www.rigelatin.net/copycat/games/mewrumors.php<br />
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https://aminoapps.com/c/pokemon/page/blog/myths-behind-the-glitches-part-2/Mjhk_uadKjrb61WngqZ6nnN13Vxw4p<br />
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http://harveststone.tripod.com/homepage_console/rumors.htm<br />
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http://editthis.info/fake_cheats/Pokemon#Bill.27s_secret_garden<br />
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https://cheatcodesnow.ise.com.bd/cheat-guide/faq-3-pokemon-yellow-gameboy-53125/<br />
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===Discussion topics===<br />
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https://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=138709<br />
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http://arvee3zy.tumblr.com/post/11342420988/bills-secret-garden<br />
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http://www.neoseeker.com/forums/3298/t636831-bills-secret-garden/<br />
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https://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=151782<br />
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https://www.reddit.com/r/twitchplayspokemon/comments/48hm5c/could_someone_clarify_on_bill_secret_garden/<br />
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https://www.supercheats.com/gameboyadvance/questions/pokemonleafgreen/200566/is-it-possible-to-get-all-3-le.htm<br />
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http://www.answers.com/Q/How_do_you_get_to_bills_secret_garden_in_Pokemon_fire_red<br />
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https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090807160420AAEfL2y&guccounter=1<br />
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http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/22699-13-frlg-celio-phrases<br />
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/907714-pokemon-blue-version/46871149<br />
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https://omggirlsgame.wordpress.com/tag/pokemon-red-rumor/<br />
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http://forums.pokemontcg.com/topic/12690-pok%C3%A9mon-memes/<br />
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http://boards.4chan.org/vp/thread/37022107/dumbshit-rumors-you-belived-as-a-kid<br />
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https://www.destructoid.com/experience-points-28-pokemon-red-blue-325884.phtml<br />
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https://www.neogaf.com/threads/rttp-the-pokemon-all-721-of-them-and-counting.1120680/page-65<br />
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https://forums.serebii.net/threads/the-worst-and-the-best-old-pokemon-1st-gen-rumors.430057/<br />
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https://www.math.miami.edu/~jam/azure/forum/buzz/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=4;t=000256;p=<br />
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https://animesuperhero.com/forums/threads/legit-way-to-get-mew-in-pokemon-blue-red-yellow.3337661/<br />
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http://www.cheatsguru.com/nds/pokemon_soul_silver/questions/2153368/<br />
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https://twitter.com/pokemon/status/917812373255110656?lang=en<br />
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https://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.201136-Fake-game-rumors-from-the-past?page=3<br />
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https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/history-of-pok%C3%A9mon-fan-speculation.3607682/<br />
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===Videos===<br />
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrhdZVN1qT4<br />
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfWPy4JXCtk<br />
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4A8YUZQK30<br />
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6E9mZrkSg8<br />
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cONW--1dVo<br />
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62Pl6OIUSTM<br />
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5C57tp5DmCk<br />
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRnaaGCdP-8<br />
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdhEtMsn1ug<br />
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===Artwork and stories===<br />
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https://www.deviantart.com/bluespeon/art/Bill-s-Secret-Garden-Magazine-606852169<br />
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https://www.fanfiction.net/s/8024317/1/Bill-s-Secret-Garden<br />
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https://www.deviantart.com/ibolrock/art/Bill-s-Secret-Garden-186768405<br />
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http://www.nerdragecomic.com/index.php?date=2013-11-22<br />
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http://fyeahpokemoncreepypasta.tumblr.com/post/19400092319/leaf-green-beta<br />
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https://memegenerator.net/instance/57825682/pokemon-kid-help-me-find-bills-secret-garden-hell-give-me-mewthree</div>
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I'd like to point out that there are multiple unresolved concerns presented at [[User talk:Kogoro/8#Template:MoveInfobox]]. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 09:34, 26 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Usage of the word "native" ==<br />
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Hello. I noticed that you and the other chiefs of staff have ruled that the term "natives" should absolutely not be used on the "Biology" section of the {{p|Raichu}} article, and I was redirected to you by {{U|Abcboy}} for further discussion on the matter. It was an issue that {{U|PardescanSlowbro}} raised out of concerns that the word is inherently offensive and incidentally racist to people of indigenous descent, a viewpoint that I and {{U|Force Fire}} highly disagreed with because the word was being used in an entirely non-offensive context. I'm not going to argue against your ruling because you all apparently reached this ruling with a reasoning that had nothing to do with concerns of incidental racism. But I am now curious as to whether your ruling will apply to all other articles that use the word "native(s)" in some way or form, or even phrases like "native to" or something along those lines. I hope it won't, because I feel doing so would be a silly overreaction, but I digress.<br />
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Hope to hear from you about the matter soon. Thanks! [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 05:10, 3 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
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Hello Kogoro, I was wondering, why is shipping allowed on this encyclopedia? There is almost no fact behind it, a lot of the time it claims that "shippers" have noticed something that suggests that 10 year olds should be in a relationship, but never cites it. Why not just have one article that merely acknowledgeds its existence but doesn't promote fan theories that should be left on web fourms. If this speculation is allowed then many other fan theories should be by this logic be allowed.[[User:Great Bear|Great Bear]] ([[User talk:Great Bear|talk]]) 23:47, 16 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== [[Sea Cottage]] Bill's Secret Garden rumours - edit war with ForceFire ==<br />
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Hi Kogoro. I recently added information regarding the Bill's Secret Garden rumour to the [[Sea Cottage]] page, one of the most notorious Pokémon rumours of all time. After doing so, ForceFire removed it without adequate discussion, claiming that it lacked appropriate notability. I have provided a wealth of sources on the talk page attesting to the spread and notoriety of the rumour, including many well-known sites which compare the Secret Garden rumour to [[the truck]] and [[Mewthree]]. I requested a second opinion from Dennou as I felt ForceFire was behaving in an authoritarian manner, but I'm now contacting you because ForceFire is continuing to remove this information without engaging in discussion. I find this deeply troubling, as this disregard for regular users and rejection of accountability is bound to have a negative effect on the wiki as a whole. --[[User:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] [[User talk:Poppy Appletree|:3]] 14:54, 20 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
: As a follow-up, ForceFire has inappropriately issued a warning for edit warring, despite it being him who is engaging in edit warring. I have at all points sought discussion, whereas he has ignored my comments and provided extremely tardy accounts for his actions. --[[User:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] [[User talk:Poppy Appletree|:3]] 15:00, 20 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:: Additionally, ForceFire has removed the evidence I have provided on the talk page for the [[Sea Cottage]] page, contrary to the talk page policy. I believe it would be appropriate for him to recuse himself from this matter. --Poppy Appletree 15:32, 20 November 2018 (UTC)</div>
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::: Please remove this comment from my page, or I will. As you are participating in an edit war, it is a conflict of interest and abuse of power for you to issue a warning to the person you are warring with. I have consistently sought dialogue, so to suggest that I have not already taken the actions you suggest is simply insulting. --[[User:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] [[User talk:Poppy Appletree|:3]] 15:16, 20 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::: Read the {{bp|Talk page policy}}. You '''cannot''' removed talk page comments. And as a matter of fact, you did edit war. You added it, it got removed by Finnish. Added it back again, I removed it. You then added it again after I took a while to respond. Is that not edit warring?.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 15:29, 20 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::: That's rich, given that you removed ''my'' talk page comments. Please excuse yourself from this matter and let someone else handle it. --Poppy Appletree 15:31, 20 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
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Rather than going around and spamming every other staff member's talk page, you can actually wait for me or someone else to respond. Spamming other staff member's talk pages just because I take a while to respond doesn't help you. Just wait a few minutes.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 14:59, 20 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
: I will not tolerate personal attacks, thank you. I am not "spamming" their pages, I am seeking alternative opinions because you are behaving inappropriately. --[[User:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] [[User talk:Poppy Appletree|:3]] 15:01, 20 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:: Also, by a "few minutes" do you mean more than 20? That is hardly a reasonable amount of time to wait for a person to provide an explanation for their actions - perhaps you should learn to use edit summaries instead of using default revert comments? --[[User:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] [[User talk:Poppy Appletree|:3]] 15:02, 20 November 2018 (UTC)</div>
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Cerulean Cape and Sea Cottage are both stub articles. Bill's Lighthouse, while not a stub, is still quite short. All three deal with essentially the same material, though Bill's Lighthouse is only in the Anime, while the Sea Cottage is in the games and other canon. I think the three articles should be merge to flesh out one larger, better article that deals with Cerulean Cape and it's landmark of the Sea Cottage/Lighthouse as a whole rather than split into three small articles. [[User:Kumori Satosuke|Satosuke]] 14:51, 8 October 2008 (UTC)<br />
:I agree. [[User:Ht14|<span style="color:#D5AA00"><sup>''ht''</sup></span>]][[User talk:Ht14|<span style="color:#C0C0C0"><small>''14''</small></span>]] 13:55, 17 February 2009 (UTC)<br />
::I brought it up {{red link|Talk:Sea Cottage|here}} and I'm going to do it again. I agree as well.--[[User:Clarky13|<span style="color:#0000FF;">'''Clarky'''</span>]][[User talk:Clarky13|<span style="color:#000000;">'''13'''</span>]] 14:02, 17 February 2009 (UTC)<br />
:::I agree merging Sea Cottage with this one, but not sure of Bill's Lighthouse. We have tons of anime-exclusive location, so that one might belong to those. '''<span style="color:#A2958D">►</span>[[User:Kevzo8|<span style="color:#E3E3E3">Ҝə</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|<span style="color:#E6E6EE">υz</span>]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|<span style="color:#BBBBBB">ø8</span>]]''' 14:15, 17 February 2009 (UTC)<br />
::::I'll Do this now. But what should we call it?--[[User:Clarky13|<span style="color:#0000FF;">'''Clarky'''</span>]][[User talk:Clarky13|<span style="color:#000000;">'''13'''</span>]] 14:16, 17 February 2009 (UTC)<br />
:::::Cerulean Cape is fine. Just, um, redirect the old page to the new one next time you merge something :D &mdash; <small>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<font color="#0000C8">THE TROM</font></small>]] &mdash; 05:35, 18 February 2009 (UTC)<br />
::::::Yep. Got a bit into a edit war with that, but I added info to thee pages. :D--[[User:Clarky13|<span style="color:#0000FF;">'''Clarky'''</span>]][[User talk:Clarky13|<span style="color:#000000;">'''13'''</span>]] 05:50, 18 February 2009 (UTC)<br />
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==Merge with Cerulean Cape and Bill's Lighthouse?==<br />
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Cerulean Cape and Sea Cottage are both stub articles. Bill's Lighthouse, while not a stub, is still quite short. All three deal with essentially the same material, though Bill's Lighthouse is only in the Anime, while the Sea Cottage is in the games and other canon. I think the three articles should be merge to flesh out one larger, better article that deals with Cerulean Cape and it's landmark of the Sea Cottage/Lighthouse as a whole rather than split into three small articles. [[User:Kumori Satosuke|Satosuke]] 14:51, 8 October 2008 (UTC)<br />
:I am going to bring this up again. Satosuke makes a valid point, [[Bill's Lighthouse]] and Sea Cottage are both very short articles.--[[User:Clarky13|<span style="color:#0000FF;">'''Clarky'''</span>]][[User talk:Clarky13|<span style="color:#000000;">'''13'''</span>]] 13:32, 11 February 2009 (UTC)<br />
::The main discussion for this topic is located [[Talk:Sea Cottage#Merge with Sea Cottage and Bill's Lighthouse?|here]]. &mdash; <small>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<font color="#0000C8">THE TROM</font></small>]] &mdash; 05:35, 18 February 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Bill's Grandpa ==<br />
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Okay, so I've shown Bill's grandpa all the pokemon he asks to see (in HGSS). Here's the list of pokemon and the stones you get in return:<br />
* Lickitung - Everstone<br />
* Oddish - Leaf Stone<br />
* Staryu - Water Stone<br />
* Vulpix - Fire Stone (in SS, possibly Growlithe in HG)<br />
* Pichu - Thunderstone<br />
Is this information worth including in this article? --[[User:Oatzy|Oatzy]] 22:04, 9 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
:I had to show him a Jigglypuff to get an Everstone, not a Lickitung. Could it be because we're playing different versions? I'm using HeartGold. --[[User:Paranoid Trainer|Paranoid Trainer]] 23:30, 10 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
::Yeah, probably is. I'm playing SoulSilver. Do you know if any of the others different?<br />
:::Well, Oddish and Pichu are definitely correct, and your Growlithe guess was on the money, but instead of a Staryu I'm being asked for a Marill. Or at least, the description matches Marill perfectly (round and blue, with a white belly and a floating tail end), but since I don't have one yet I can't confirm it yet. --[[User:Paranoid Trainer|Paranoid Trainer]] 00:05, 12 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::Sounds about right, yeah. What was the order he asked to see them in?--[[User:Oatzy|Oatzy]] 13:46, 14 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
:I have HeartGold, and can confirm that he asks for the Oddish first. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 15:06, 14 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
::I just confirmed Marill in HG. Oddish was first for me as well, followed by either Jigglypuff and Growlithe, and then the other. Sadly I can't recall with of them was second and which was third, but I'm almost certain Pichu was the 4th and Marill was definitely the last. --[[User:Paranoid Trainer|Paranoid Trainer]] 01:46, 15 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::Haven't gotten the Water Stone part yet, but in HG for me, it was Oddish, Growlithe, Jigglypuff, Pichu. [[User:Kumori Satosuke|Satosuke]] 17:47, 11 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Inclusion of Bill's Secret Garden rumour ==<br />
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I have added a section regarding the Bill's Secret Garden rumour. This is one of the most infamous rumours in Pokémon history, on par with [[the truck]] and [[Mewthree]], and I believe this should remain in the article. To this day articles are written about this - see the following links: [https://www.gamesradar.com/uk/rumors-everyone-believed-about-pokemon/] [https://www.techradar.com/uk/news/gaming/gotta-debunk-em-all-the-pokemon-rumors-and-urban-legends-we-all-fell-for-1315898] [https://www.thegamer.com/pokemon-areas-that-are-impossible-to-find-and-how-to-find-them/][https://www.thegamer.com/pokemon-areas-that-are-impossible-to-find-and-how-to-find-them/]. I genuinely think it cheapens the wiki not to mention the existence of this rumour, especially when it was seemingly referenced in the Generation IV games with the [[Trophy Garden]], similar to how the truck had a hidden [[lava cookie]] added as a nod to the rumours in FRLG. --[[User:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] [[User talk:Poppy Appletree|:3]] 12:53, 20 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:All those sites are clickbait sites on par with buzzfeed and does not make it "infamous". The Mew rumor is the most well known rumor of the three, while Mewthree is part of the Fakemon article, so I treat that as talking about "Mewthree the fakemon" and not "Mewthree the rumor". The "Secret Garden" is just not as well known as the other two.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 13:49, 20 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:: Since you seem keen to ignore how widespread and well-known this rumour is, I have compiled a (non-exhaustive) mentions of the rumour, which you can see below. Several of these include people ''still'' spreading the rumour more than 20 years later, so it's almost negligent not to mention it on the ''premier Pokémon wiki''.<br />
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::You can call literally anything clickbait these days because the standard of news has degraded exceptionally, but I'm honestly not sure what you're expecting with regards to Pokémon. Most traditional news sources give incorrect details about Pokémon anyway because they don't care enough to cover it properly. A bunch of those sites which have posted articles (TechRadar, GamesRadar, Syfy, Screenrant, Den of Geek, Destructoid) are very well-known sites. With the combination of those articles you would pass ''Wikipedia's'' notability standards, and they have come down hard on this kind of thing.<br />
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::The Bill's Secret Garden is notorious, long-lived, well-documented, and ''still being spread to this day''. It is notable enough for this wiki, and that will be the case regardless of what you say, because your opinion on this matter is blatantly counterfactual. As such, I am reversing your removal of the Secret Garden rumour. --[[User:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] [[User talk:Poppy Appletree|:3]] 14:31, 20 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
::[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Sea_Cottage&diff=prev&oldid=2883550 Sources].<br />
:::Firstly, please do just add back the information without a consensus. Wait until this discussion has reached a conclusion. Don't just add it back.<br />
:::Secondly, all your "evidence" isn't reliable. Especially fan related stuff... so everything but the articles. And the articles, like I said, are clickbait stuff like "ooooh, the ten thing you didn't know about Pokemon ooooh". Those articles are not reliable at all, they are opinion pieces. They may be acceptable on Wikipedia, though I don't think they are, but we are not Wikipedia. Just because we're both wikis doesn't mean we share the same rules and standards.<br />
:::Thirdly, The mew rumor is far more notorious and popular than the sea cottage rumor. It has also been blatantly referenced in the games. The sea cottage rumor is just as minor as the Lavender town rumor.-[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 14:56, 20 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
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:::: Please be aware that I consider it inapppropriate for you to have removed the sources that I posted, especially as doing so supports your own position. It is a serious breach of wiki etiquette to remove another person's comments. Relegating the information to a link which could easily be missed vastly minimises the extent of discussion that the rumour has generated. If you have concerns about length there are better ways to deal with that, and archives ''do'' exist to clean up discussions. I cannot fairly have a discussion with a person who abuses their role to issue warnings to people who disagree with them when they themselves are the offending party. As such, I would politely request that you recuse yourself from this matter due to your conflict of interest, and allow another admin to comment instead. --Poppy Appletree 15:29, 20 November 2018 (UTC)</div>
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:: ''You'' are the one edit warring. I have sought discussion at all points and provided documentation to support my case, whereas you have ignored this in favour of your own opinion. Suffice to say, I think your actions are extremely inappropriate. You are exactly the type of person who should not be given power, and the reason I rarely edit wikis these days. I have contacted Dennou and Kogoro for comment and oversight. --[[User:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] [[User talk:Poppy Appletree|:3]] 14:58, 20 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
::: Please remove this comment from my page, or I will. As you are participating in an edit war, it is a conflict of interest and abuse of power for you to issue a warning to the person you are warring with. I have consistently sought dialogue, so to suggest that I have not already taken the actions you suggest is simply insulting. --[[User:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] [[User talk:Poppy Appletree|:3]] 15:16, 20 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
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Rather than going around and spamming every other staff member's talk page, you can actually wait for me or someone else to respond. Spamming other staff member's talk pages just because I take a while to respond doesn't help you. Just wait a few minutes.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 14:59, 20 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
: I will not tolerate personal attacks, thank you. I am not "spamming" their pages, I am seeking alternative opinions because you are behaving inappropriately. --[[User:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] [[User talk:Poppy Appletree|:3]] 15:01, 20 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:: Also, by a "few minutes" do you mean more than 20? That is hardly a reasonable amount of time to wait for a person to provide an explanation for their actions - perhaps you should learn to use edit summaries instead of using default revert comments? --[[User:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] [[User talk:Poppy Appletree|:3]] 15:02, 20 November 2018 (UTC)</div>
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:: ''You'' are the one edit warring. I have sought discussion at all points and provided documentation to support my case, whereas you have ignored this in favour of your own opinion. Suffice to say, I think your actions are extremely inappropriate. You are exactly the type of person who should not be given power, and the reason I rarely edit wikis these days. I have contacted Dennou and Kogoro for comment and oversight. --[[User:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] [[User talk:Poppy Appletree|:3]] 14:58, 20 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
::: Please remove this comment from my page, or I will. As you are participating in an edit war, it is a conflict of interest and abuse of power for you to issue a warning to the person you are warring with. --[[User:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] [[User talk:Poppy Appletree|:3]] 15:16, 20 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
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: I will not tolerate personal attacks, thank you. I am not "spamming" their pages, I am seeking alternative opinions because you are behaving inappropriately. --[[User:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] [[User talk:Poppy Appletree|:3]] 15:01, 20 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:: Also, by a "few minutes" do you mean more than 20? That is hardly a reasonable amount of time to wait for a person to provide an explanation for their actions - perhaps you should learn to use edit summaries instead of using default revert comments? --[[User:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] [[User talk:Poppy Appletree|:3]] 15:02, 20 November 2018 (UTC)</div>
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:: ''You'' are the one edit warring. I have sought discussion at all points and provided documentation to support my case, whereas you have ignored this in favour of your own opinion. Suffice to say, I think your actions are extremely inappropriate. You are exactly the type of person who should not be given power, and the reason I rarely edit wikis these days. I have contacted Dennou and Kogoro for comment and oversight. --[[User:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] [[User talk:Poppy Appletree|:3]] 14:58, 20 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
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Rather than going around and spamming every other staff member's talk page, you can actually wait for me or someone else to respond. Spamming other staff member's talk pages just because I take a while to respond doesn't help you. Just wait a few minutes.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 14:59, 20 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
: I will not tolerate personal attacks, thank you. I am not "spamming" their pages, I am seeking alternative opinions because you are behaving inappropriately. --[[User:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] [[User talk:Poppy Appletree|:3]] 15:01, 20 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:: Also, by a "few minutes" do you mean more than 20? That is hardly a reasonable amount of time to wait for a person to provide an explanation for their actions - perhaps you should learn to use edit summaries instead of using default revert comments? --[[User:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] [[User talk:Poppy Appletree|:3]] 15:02, 20 November 2018 (UTC)</div>
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Please do not revert or add back information that was removed, it constitutes as [[edit warring]] and is a blockable offense. If you have a problem with an edit, take it up to the talk page of the disputed article or the user that reverted you. Thank you. --[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 14:47, 20 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:: ''You'' are the one edit warring. I have sought discussion at all points and provided documentation to support my case, whereas you have ignored this in favour of your own opinion. Suffice to say, I think your actions are extremely inappropriate. You are exactly the type of person who should not be given power, and the reason I rarely edit wikis these days. I have contacted Dennou and Kogoro for comment and oversight. --[[User:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] [[User talk:Poppy Appletree|:3]] 14:58, 20 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Learn some patience ==<br />
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Rather than going around and spamming every other staff member's talk page, you can actually wait for me or someone else to respond. Spamming other staff member's talk pages just because I take a while to respond doesn't help you. Just wait a few minutes.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 14:59, 20 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
: I will not tolerate personal attacks, thank you. I am not "spamming" their pages, I am seeking alternative opinions because you are behaving inappropriately. --[[User:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] [[User talk:Poppy Appletree|:3]] 15:01, 20 November 2018 (UTC)</div>
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User talk:Kogoro
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Created a few articles for possible mainspacing, was wondering if you could take a look at my page and tell me if any are ready for it?--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 16:48, 20 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
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I'd like to point out that there are multiple unresolved concerns presented at [[User talk:Kogoro/8#Template:MoveInfobox]]. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 09:34, 26 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
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Hello. I noticed that you and the other chiefs of staff have ruled that the term "natives" should absolutely not be used on the "Biology" section of the {{p|Raichu}} article, and I was redirected to you by {{U|Abcboy}} for further discussion on the matter. It was an issue that {{U|PardescanSlowbro}} raised out of concerns that the word is inherently offensive and incidentally racist to people of indigenous descent, a viewpoint that I and {{U|Force Fire}} highly disagreed with because the word was being used in an entirely non-offensive context. I'm not going to argue against your ruling because you all apparently reached this ruling with a reasoning that had nothing to do with concerns of incidental racism. But I am now curious as to whether your ruling will apply to all other articles that use the word "native(s)" in some way or form, or even phrases like "native to" or something along those lines. I hope it won't, because I feel doing so would be a silly overreaction, but I digress.<br />
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Hope to hear from you about the matter soon. Thanks! [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 05:10, 3 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Why is Shipping allowed? ==<br />
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Hello Kogoro, I was wondering, why is shipping allowed on this encyclopedia? There is almost no fact behind it, a lot of the time it claims that "shippers" have noticed something that suggests that 10 year olds should be in a relationship, but never cites it. Why not just have one article that merely acknowledgeds its existence but doesn't promote fan theories that should be left on web fourms. If this speculation is allowed then many other fan theories should be by this logic be allowed.[[User:Great Bear|Great Bear]] ([[User talk:Great Bear|talk]]) 23:47, 16 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== [[Sea Cottage]] Bill's Secret Garden rumours - edit war with ForceFire ==<br />
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Hi Kogoro. I recently added information regarding the Bill's Secret Garden rumour to the [[Sea Cottage]] page, one of the most notorious Pokémon rumours of all time. After doing so, ForceFire removed it without adequate discussion, claiming that it lacked appropriate notability. I have provided a wealth of sources on the talk page attesting to the spread and notoriety of the rumour, including many well-known sites which compare the Secret Garden rumour to [[the truck]] and [[Mewthree]]. I requested a second opinion from Dennou as I felt ForceFire was behaving in an authoritarian manner, but I'm now contacting you because ForceFire is continuing to remove this information without engaging in discussion. I find this deeply troubling, as this disregard for regular users and rejection of accountability is bound to have a negative effect on the wiki as a whole. --[[User:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] [[User talk:Poppy Appletree|:3]] 14:54, 20 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
: As a follow-up, ForceFire has inappropriately issued a warning for edit warring, despite it being him who is engaging in edit warring. I have at all points sought discussion, whereas he has ignored my comments and provided extremely tardy accounts for his actions. --[[User:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] [[User talk:Poppy Appletree|:3]] 15:00, 20 November 2018 (UTC)</div>
Poppy Appletree
https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Poppy_Appletree&diff=2883557
User talk:Poppy Appletree
2018-11-20T14:58:34Z
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== Edit Warring ==<br />
Please do not revert or add back information that was removed, it constitutes as [[edit warring]] and is a blockable offense. If you have a problem with an edit, take it up to the talk page of the disputed article or the user that reverted you. Thank you. --[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 14:47, 20 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:: ''You'' are the one edit warring. I have sought discussion at all points and provided documentation to support my case, whereas you have ignored this in favour of your own opinion. Suffice to say, I think your actions are extremely inappropriate. You are exactly the type of person who should not be given power, and the reason I rarely edit wikis these days. I have contacted Dennou and Kogoro for comment and oversight. --[[User:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] [[User talk:Poppy Appletree|:3]] 14:58, 20 November 2018 (UTC)</div>
Poppy Appletree
https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kogoro&diff=2883555
User talk:Kogoro
2018-11-20T14:54:39Z
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==Mainspace articles==<br />
Created a few articles for possible mainspacing, was wondering if you could take a look at my page and tell me if any are ready for it?--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 16:48, 20 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Your talk archive ==<br />
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I'd like to point out that there are multiple unresolved concerns presented at [[User talk:Kogoro/8#Template:MoveInfobox]]. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 09:34, 26 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Usage of the word "native" ==<br />
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Hello. I noticed that you and the other chiefs of staff have ruled that the term "natives" should absolutely not be used on the "Biology" section of the {{p|Raichu}} article, and I was redirected to you by {{U|Abcboy}} for further discussion on the matter. It was an issue that {{U|PardescanSlowbro}} raised out of concerns that the word is inherently offensive and incidentally racist to people of indigenous descent, a viewpoint that I and {{U|Force Fire}} highly disagreed with because the word was being used in an entirely non-offensive context. I'm not going to argue against your ruling because you all apparently reached this ruling with a reasoning that had nothing to do with concerns of incidental racism. But I am now curious as to whether your ruling will apply to all other articles that use the word "native(s)" in some way or form, or even phrases like "native to" or something along those lines. I hope it won't, because I feel doing so would be a silly overreaction, but I digress.<br />
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Hope to hear from you about the matter soon. Thanks! [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 05:10, 3 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Why is Shipping allowed? ==<br />
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Hello Kogoro, I was wondering, why is shipping allowed on this encyclopedia? There is almost no fact behind it, a lot of the time it claims that "shippers" have noticed something that suggests that 10 year olds should be in a relationship, but never cites it. Why not just have one article that merely acknowledgeds its existence but doesn't promote fan theories that should be left on web fourms. If this speculation is allowed then many other fan theories should be by this logic be allowed.[[User:Great Bear|Great Bear]] ([[User talk:Great Bear|talk]]) 23:47, 16 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== [[Sea Cottage]] Bill's Secret Garden rumours - edit war with ForceFire ==<br />
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Hi Kogoro. I recently added information regarding the Bill's Secret Garden rumour to the [[Sea Cottage]] page, one of the most notorious Pokémon rumours of all time. After doing so, ForceFire removed it without adequate discussion, claiming that it lacked appropriate notability. I have provided a wealth of sources on the talk page attesting to the spread and notoriety of the rumour, including many well-known sites which compare the Secret Garden rumour to [[the truck]] and [[Mewthree]]. I requested a second opinion from Dennou as I felt ForceFire was behaving in an authoritarian manner, but I'm now contacting you because ForceFire is continuing to remove this information without engaging in discussion. I find this deeply troubling, as this disregard for regular users and rejection of accountability is bound to have a negative effect on the wiki as a whole. --[[User:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] [[User talk:Poppy Appletree|:3]] 14:54, 20 November 2018 (UTC)</div>
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https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Dennou_Zenshi&diff=2883552
User talk:Dennou Zenshi
2018-11-20T14:39:54Z
<p>Poppy Appletree: /* Sea Cottage Bill's Secret Garden rumours */ new section</p>
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== Trouble with [[Hidden Grotto]] page ==<br />
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{{u|Lady Ariel}} is [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Hidden_Grotto&diff=2049933&oldid=2049908 showing] herself [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Hidden_Grotto&diff=2050166&oldid=2049989 determined] to undo my fixes for the roundy bits of the table in the [[Hidden Grotto#Items in each Hidden Grotto|Items in each Hidden Grotto]] section on the [[Hidden Grotto]] page. (I also forgot that other tables on that page need the same fixes, but I'd expect to encounter the same resistance if I try to fix those right now.) Without the changes I made, the roundy templates ([[Template:roundytl]], etc.) end up having ''no effect'' whatsoever on the table; you can take out those templates/styles and the table looks exactly the same. In order for them to work, the row cannot have a background color style, and the cells must each have it instead. If you look carefully at the tables in the [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Hidden_Grotto&oldid=2050166#Items_in_each_Hidden_Grotto before] and [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Hidden_Grotto&oldid=2049989#Items_in_each_Hidden_Grotto after] revisions, you can see that the corners are actually round in the before version with my edits.<br />
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Can you impress on Lady Ariel that she has no call to undo those fixes of mine? ...Or am I somehow not as right as I think? [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 17:20, 3 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
:Looks like you're right there. Your version is visually the correct one, and it's not like the extra ~250 bytes cause some issues. So I think you can add it back. If Ariel still disagrees, she should take part in the discussion.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#AB0909">電</font><font color="#063A73">禅</font>]]<small>[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#fff" face="Tahoma"><span style="text-shadow:#000 0.2em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Den Zen</span></font>]]</small>''' 17:39, 3 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
::The corners are identical in both versions (using Safari and Chrome). It is possible to have the background color set for the entire row and have rounded corners for individual cells. In addition I changed the color scheme of the tables. The actual edit I just did is [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Hidden_Grotto&oldid=2050253 here], which makes the table borders less blocky (similar background and border colors in the old versions) and removes unnecessary coding. Also the way I re-coded those few cells is how a majority of tables are coded on Bulbapedia. Should I take pictures of the corners of the cells and provide them or should it be reverted to my recent edit? '''[[User:Lady Ariel|<span style="color:magenta">Lady</span>]] [[User talk:Lady Ariel|<span style="color:orange">Ariel</span>]]''' 19:26, 3 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
:::Looking at your revision in Chromium, I now see why you've been undoing my changes. The problem is, in Firefox, my changes actually ''do'' change the way the tables display.<br />
:::As I mentioned when I reverted it, you're entirely welcome to redo any of the changes that don't affect the roundy fixes (as above: each cell in a roundy row has to have its own background color, and the row cannot have a background color); I just didn't have the patience to sort out your new changes from the roundy stuff myself, or redo the roundy stuff. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 19:38, 3 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
::::It is like to the colspan issue with tables, which is caused when a table has a number set for colspan that is greater than the number of columns some browsers display a gap and others don't. I will go ahead and change the tables then (leaving the roundy now that we know it is a browser issue). However, finding the countless number of tables that use the coding I used on the Hidden Grotto page won't be easy. '''[[User:Lady Ariel|<span style="color:magenta">Lady</span>]] [[User talk:Lady Ariel|<span style="color:orange">Ariel</span>]]''' 19:55, 3 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
:::::If you mean finding those "countless numbers of tables" to fix the roundy stuff, I don't expect to or even intend to try. I just fix whatever I happen to notice (and manage to care about that moment). [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 20:10, 3 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
::::::Having a "countless{{tt|*|everything on the wiki is countable}}" number of things to fix isn't supposed to be a deterrent from completing a task that need to be finished. It is ''more'' a reason to change something you see is wrong when you see it, because otherwise, it may not be found again for a long while. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|<sup style="color:#00008B;">'''Maverick'''</sup>]][[User talk:Maverick Nate|<sub style="color:#00008B;">'''Nate'''</sub>]]'' 21:06, 3 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Page without category ==<br />
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Since a user has created a page about roller-shake tricks, will you either add a category or delete the page? [[User:Cinday123|<span style="color:pink">Cinday123</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:Cinday123|<span style="color:lightblue">Talk</span>]])''</small> 02:05, 5 January 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Shared species into mainspace ==<br />
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Can I get permission to move {{u|Relicant/List of Pokémon with shared species names|this sub page of an user}} into the mainspace or you do it for it? --[[User:Cinday123|<span style="color:pink">Cinday123</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:Cinday123|<span style="color:lightblue">Talk</span>]])''</small> 09:13, 13 February 2014 (UTC)<br />
:It's not just up to me. It should be discussed [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/f195/candidates-merging-moving-mainspacing-splitting-discussion-thread-114138/ here] first.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#AB0909">電</font><font color="#063A73">禅</font>]]<small>[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#fff" face="Tahoma"><span style="text-shadow:#000 0.2em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Den Zen</span></font>]]</small>''' 12:42, 13 February 2014 (UTC)<br />
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==Silcoon and Cascoon==<br />
Both of them having the same base stats, type, learnset and Ability all seem rather obvious with them being counterparts in the same evolutionary family. Metapod and Kakuna also have the same base stat total, learnset and Ability (and share at least ''one'' type, since Kakuna is dual Bug/Poison). Seems to me, the trivia should be combined, but with the shared species trivia being uniform throughout all the species' pages, I'm not sure if it should be merged, a separate trivia point, or a subsequent trivia point. What say you? [[User:Glik|Glik]] ([[User talk:Glik|talk]]) 15:06, 13 February 2014 (UTC)<br />
:It's not that obvious considering that ''Beautifly and Dustox'' don't have ''any'' of those similarities. The species name should stay separate since Silcoon and Cascoon have ''more'' in common with each other than with Metapod or Kakuna.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#AB0909">電</font><font color="#063A73">禅</font>]]<small>[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#fff" face="Tahoma"><span style="text-shadow:#000 0.2em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Den Zen</span></font>]]</small>''' 17:02, 13 February 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Absol ==<br />
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Umm...Do you also think that this does not fit [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Absol_%28Pok%C3%A9mon%29&diff=2076439&oldid=2076429 here] as it was undone by user Glik, I personally think that this trivia is ABSOLutely correct. {{unsigned|Viv}}<br />
:Almost every Pokémon with Super Luck can do the same thing. It's correct, but not notable.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#AB0909">電</font><font color="#063A73">禅</font>]]<small>[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#fff" face="Tahoma"><span style="text-shadow:#000 0.2em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Den Zen</span></font>]]</small>''' 15:46, 19 February 2014 (UTC)<br />
::Okay, got it!.--[[User:Viv|Viv]] ([[User talk:Viv|talk]]) 12:26, 20 February 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Edit Block ==<br />
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I was wondering if the amount of time on the ban increases with each consecutive ban? <br />
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Also on the ban notice it tells me to write on your page to discuss the ban with you, but isn't that redundent since I can't edit/talk on your page while I'm banned? I had to wait till the ban was over, but I just joined today so I'm probably just missing something! I look forward to hearing back from you.<br />
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[[User:Nicodeamus|Nicodeamus]] ([[User talk:Nicodeamus|talk]]) 19:34, 6 March 2014 (UTC)<br />
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Thank you so much for clearing that up for me, I can't believe I overlooked the Gen used in the Learnsets. I appreciate your timely response and I'm correcting my errors now.<br />
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[[User:Nicodeamus|Nicodeamus]] ([[User talk:Nicodeamus|talk]]) 20:09, 6 March 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Diancie's stats ==<br />
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I saw Diancie's stats in [http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-xy/719.shtml here] (on the lowermost part of the page). Can I write them on Diancie's page? --[[User:Blinx9999guizar|Blinx9999guizar]] ([[User talk:Blinx9999guizar|talk]]) 23:26, 7 March 2014 (UTC)<br />
:Serebii (or other fansites) should never be used as a source. If you can get a Diancie yourself and determine its base stats reliably, then they can be added.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#AB0909">電</font><font color="#063A73">禅</font>]]<small>[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#fff" face="Tahoma"><span style="text-shadow:#000 0.2em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Den Zen</span></font>]]</small>''' 23:30, 7 March 2014 (UTC)<br />
::Then OK, I guess... --[[User:Blinx9999guizar|Blinx9999guizar]] ([[User talk:Blinx9999guizar|talk]]) 23:41, 7 March 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Fur Coat and Psyshock ==<br />
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As we know, Furfrou's signature Ability, {{a|Fur Coat}}, halves the damage taken from Physical moves. But there seems to be a little confusion at the page does this affect the damage taken from Special moves that inflict Physical damage, such as {{m|Psyshock}} and {{m|Secret Sword}}. I don't know the answer myself, nor am I able to research it effectively, so I decided to ask someone else, and since I trust you as a fellow Bulbapedia user and Finn, I decided to try and ask you if you know the answer. If not, that's fine. I'll just have to ask someone else in that case. Whichever way it goes, thank you in advance. :) --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 15:10, 11 March 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Wonder Guard blocks OHKOs?? ==<br />
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I'm rather skeptical that the Wonder Guard Ability actually blocks OHKOs just like Sturdy does. I'm under the impression that the only reason OHKOs don't work on Shedinja is because Shedinja simply isn't weak to any of Normal, Ground, or Ice. To test this, it might be necessary to either hack or do some fancy stuff with Trace/Reflect Type/blah to get, say, an Electric-type with Wonder Guard, and see if it's still immune to Fissure. If Fissure can hit an Electric-type with Wonder Guard, then Wonder Guard does not inherently block OHKOs; it's simply blocking them since they aren't normally super effective. As far as I know, there is no easy way to pull off such a test, save hacking. [[User:Blueapple128|Blueapple128]] ([[User talk:Blueapple128|talk]]) 02:55, 18 March 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Previewing ==<br />
I know to preview my page first before saving it. But the glitch I kept encountering on the page in question would only appear after I saved it. I would preview the page, everything looked okay, and then saved it only to find that odd garbled code at the end.<br />
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== What should I do? ==<br />
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If opinions aren't allowed, I'm trying to make mainspace edits, but I don't have any important factual information, so I'm not sure what to do. -{{unsigned|YoshiDino90}}<br />
:There are thousands of {{cat|stubs}} and {{cat|articles needing more information}}, hundreds of {{cat|articles needing improvement}} and lots of pages with typos or formatting mistakes. I'm pretty sure you'll find something.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#AB0909">電</font><font color="#063A73">禅</font>]]<small>[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#fff" face="Tahoma"><span style="text-shadow:#000 0.2em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Den Zen</span></font>]]</small>''' 00:02, 24 March 2014 (UTC)<br />
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Well I'm doing what I can, but most of the stuff is on Generation VI, which I'm not particularly fond of mainly because I only have the games up to Generation IV. -{{unsigned|YoshiDino90}}<br />
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== Incorrect edit on your part (AG093) ==<br />
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I'm sorry to tell you that the edit of mine that you undid is actually correct. Your edit summary: "AG043 was the first completely accurate one" is completely irrelevant to what I actually posted. I posted that [[AG093]] is the first episode to use the new and more accurate Pokémon Trainer's Choice. This is correct and backed up by the actual [[Pokémon Trainer's Choice|Trainer's Choice page]] which states:<br />
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''In Pokémon: Advanced Battle, the creation of questions for Trainer's Choice was credited to Lawrence Neves and the accuracy rate greatly improved. During this season, the variety in the types of questions being asked expanded beyond simply type match-ups and evolutionary lines, as well as featuring more difficult questions. ''<br />
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As you should know by now, AG093 was the first episode of the Advanced Battle season and as a corollary, the first to contain the new Trainer's Choice by Lawrence Neves. I ask that you revert your edit to my post.<br />
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Thank you,<br />
[[User:Yaminichi|Yaminichi]] ([[User talk:Yaminichi|talk]]) 02:38, 24 March 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== [[Shiny Pokémon]] edit: Smogon user says FS has increased shiny rate ==<br />
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Edit war-y stuff is supposed to be brought to staff, so I'd ask you{{tt|*|or another staff member; I'm just guessing you might be the one that might be around soonest}} to once more revert/readd [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Shiny_Pok%C3%A9mon&diff=2097053&oldid=2096889 the point] about increased shiny rate in the Friend Safari, as the back-and-forth reversions are on the brink of making an edit war. The Smogon user analyzed a very large set of data, so it should be something we can rely upon. (I might even suggest it be added as a reference note.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 12:40, 31 March 2014 (UTC)<br />
:Reverted for obvious reasons.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#AB0909">電</font><font color="#063A73">禅</font>]]<small>[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#fff" face="Tahoma"><span style="text-shadow:#000 0.2em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Den Zen</span></font>]]</small>''' 13:22, 31 March 2014 (UTC)<br />
::Dennou Zenshi, I have a question, is Smogon a official website or a fan website? --[[User:Cinday123|<span style="color:pink">Cinday123</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:Cinday123|<span style="color:lightblue">Talk</span>]])''</small> 04:45, 1 April 2014 (UTC)<br />
:::Of course it's a fansite. However, that doesn't mean its forums posts are never reliable.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#AB0909">電</font><font color="#063A73">禅</font>]]<small>[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#fff" face="Tahoma"><span style="text-shadow:#000 0.2em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Den Zen</span></font>]]</small>''' 05:01, 1 April 2014 (UTC)<br />
::::So the forums posts are reliable, right Dennou Zenshi? --[[User:Cinday123|<span style="color:pink">Cinday123</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:Cinday123|<span style="color:lightblue">Talk</span>]])''</small> 05:04, 1 April 2014 (UTC)<br />
:::::As I said above, some can be reliable, but not all are.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#AB0909">電</font><font color="#063A73">禅</font>]]<small>[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#fff" face="Tahoma"><span style="text-shadow:#000 0.2em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Den Zen</span></font>]]</small>''' 05:09, 1 April 2014 (UTC)<br />
::::::I know Dennou Zenshi, I'll have to be careful next time about my edits. --[[User:Cinday123|<span style="color:pink">Cinday123</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:Cinday123|<span style="color:lightblue">Talk</span>]])''</small> 05:18, 1 April 2014 (UTC)<br />
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==Fokko==<br />
Have you watched this episode XY021? I think this is not just my speculation, but I am sure there are some other people would agree. {{unsigned|Zhixun}}<br />
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Your comments make sense. I will stop editing that page then. <small>Zhixun</small> 11:25, 4 April 2014 (UTC).<br />
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== Floette's gender ==<br />
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I originally added AZ's Floette's gender as female because of her being an all-female species. I removed it as I found out in one of the revisions that an admin removed it and I wanted to play it safe to avoid getting yelled at. I do agree with you though about Floette being an all-female species, not like the legendary Pokémon in the anime (and possibly Pokémon Adventures) having genders even though their status is normally genderless. [[User:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Patty</span>]][[User talk:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Man</span>]] 01:27, 14 April 2014 (UTC)<br />
:Yes, I know why did you remove it. I guess Ataro just didn't remember Floette's gender ratio back in October or he removed it by mistake while removing the wrong image (as he's only talking about that in the summary).--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#AB0909">電</font><font color="#063A73">禅</font>]]<small>[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#fff" face="Tahoma"><span style="text-shadow:#000 0.2em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Den Zen</span></font>]]</small>''' 05:47, 14 April 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Version mascot (sprites and artwork) ==<br />
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I saw a user turning all generational sprites into artwork on the [[version mascot]] page, do you prefer generational sprites or artwork? --[[User:Cinday123|<span style="color:pink">Cinday123</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:Cinday123|<span style="color:lightblue">Talk</span>]])''</small> 10:36, 18 April 2014 (UTC)<br />
:Since we don't have Gen VI sprites for Xerneas and Yveltal, I think it's better to use artwork to keep things consistent. As a completely unrelated note, [[User:Cinday123/Generation VII Stuff#Mega Evolutions|you have pretty nice predictions]], but Mega Pokémon cannot use {{a|Magician}}, Water Absorb Mega Azumarill is just weaker than Huge Power Azumarill, and Insomnia Mega Slaking is too broken.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#AB0909">電</font><font color="#063A73">禅</font>]]<small>[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#fff" face="Tahoma"><span style="text-shadow:#000 0.2em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Den Zen</span></font>]]</small>''' 10:52, 18 April 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Type/stat superlative trivia ==<br />
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If the type pages aren't the place for it, is there ''any''thing we can do to cut down on the massive waste of space these trivia comprise? Perhaps mainspacing [[User:Pumpkinking0192/Pokémon with the highest base stats of their type]] would be an acceptable substitute for having the trivia sprawled across 120+ separate pages? [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 23:20, 26 April 2014 (UTC)<br />
:(For the record, in addition to my concern about the space-wasting nature of these trivia, there's also the fact that 120+ pages is simply impossible to manage with any reasonable amount of fact-checking or new-generation upkeep. For instance, just among the three types I got through, Hawlucha hadn't had the trivium added to its page yet, and Pirouette Meloetta still had out-of-date Gen V trivia even though it was unseated by Mega Mewtwo X. It's just not feasible to have these trivia spread across so many pages.) [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 23:29, 26 April 2014 (UTC)<br />
::That's pretty good point, though your page isn't ''that'' much easier to keep up to date. Anyways, I think it's a good idea to mainspace the page whether we remove the trivia from the individual articles. Though I wonder why Megas that are beaten only by legendaries are omitted, for example Mega Abomasnow has the highest Attack and Special Attack of all non-legendary Ice types but isn't listed. Also, there should't be highest stat trivia that excludes ''both'' Megas and legendaries on individual pages, like Hawlucha having the highest Speed.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#AB0909">電</font><font color="#063A73">禅</font>]]<small>[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#fff" face="Tahoma"><span style="text-shadow:#000 0.2em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Den Zen</span></font>]]</small>''' 00:20, 27 April 2014 (UTC)<br />
:::It's in one place instead of 120+, which makes it 120+ times easier to keep up-to-date as long as someone remembers to do it. As for the page's content, are Megas-surpassed-by-legends the only group I should add to the table, or should I also add legends-surpassed-by-Megas? And should I remove normals-surpassed-by-legends/Megas altogether, or is that worth keeping in the table but not individual trivia sections? [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 04:30, 27 April 2014 (UTC)<br />
::::IMO we shouldn't give Megas any special treatment and just treat them as non-legendaries (or legendaries in case of Mewtwo and Latis when they're available). Some may argue that they're treated differently because of their high stats, but for example Slaking and pseudo-legendaries have higher bst than many Megas. So I think legends-surpassed-by-Megas and "normals"-surpassed-by-legends/Megas are not needed. But it's just my opinion and some users, including staff members, may disagree.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#AB0909">電</font><font color="#063A73">禅</font>]]<small>[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#fff" face="Tahoma"><span style="text-shadow:#000 0.2em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Den Zen</span></font>]]</small>''' 09:54, 27 April 2014 (UTC)<br />
:::::I've updated my userspace article to match your request. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 17:58, 27 April 2014 (UTC)<br />
Plainly speaking, what's notable and what's not? I present to you the {{DL|Emboar (Pokémon)|Trivia}} section of Emboar's article, which thinks it's notable to say that Emboar has the highest HP but lowest Defense and Special Defense of all starters, is the heaviest and has the lowest BST of all final-evo Fire-type starters (a group with 6 members), and is the only final-evo Unova starter with a second type (a group with 3 members). Surely a line needs to be drawn. The only thing [[User:Force Fire/Trivia Policy/Species]] rules on is that Emboar's tie with Sceptile for lowest Defense isn't notable. —<font face="Segoe UI"><span style="text-shadow:grey 0.1em 0.1em 0.1em">[[User:IWannaBeTheVeryBest|<font color="#fff">The</font>]]Very[[User talk:IWannaBeTheVeryBest|<font color="red">Best</font>]]</span></font> 05:57, 8 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
:I think trivia about fully evolved starters is notable only if it's not only about starters of certain region or primary type. And despite that page, at least ties in highest stats/BSTs are currently considered notable.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#AB0909">電</font><font color="#063A73">禅</font>]]<small>[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#fff" face="Tahoma"><span style="text-shadow:#000 0.2em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Den Zen</span></font>]]</small>''' 06:54, 8 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== TPP ==<br />
There's an issue with the Twitch page. I can't add the ten most recent captures without there being a "template overload" or some sort, which messes up the bag contents. The bag contents can only be displayed without listing those ten captures.<br />
[[User:Philosophical-Psychological Informist Togekiss|Philosophical-Psychological Informist Togekiss]] ([[User talk:Philosophical-Psychological Informist Togekiss|talk]]) 21:11, 12 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
:I have moved the Platinum section to a subpage. Future TPP runs such as SoulSilver should be created as a subpage to avoid the same problem.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#AB0909">電</font><font color="#063A73">禅</font>]]<small>[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#fff" face="Tahoma"><span style="text-shadow:#000 0.2em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Den Zen</span></font>]]</small>''' 21:29, 12 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
::Just wan't to let you know I did send {{u|Pokemaster97}} a message on AIM about this. He was going to discuss this with some more staff later. Also wouldn't it make the most sense to just have the Pokemon and items on a separate page and have the gameplay changes on the main page (for easy viewing)? And wouldn't it be better to have the current game on the main TPP article and have the older games on sub-pages (similar to how some of the old party templates for characters such as {{ga|Blue}} are on sub-pages)? '''[[User:Lady Ariel|<span style="color:magenta">Lady</span>]] [[User talk:Lady Ariel|<span style="color:orange">Ariel</span>]]''' 21:40, 12 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
:::Yes, on another thought it makes more sense to have the current game info on main article since most people come to see information about that game. I really should've thought about that. I'll undo my edits and let's see what the other staff members think about this.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#AB0909">電</font><font color="#063A73">禅</font>]]<small>[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#fff" face="Tahoma"><span style="text-shadow:#000 0.2em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Den Zen</span></font>]]</small>''' 21:52, 12 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
::::Given that the underlying problem is the [[:Category:Pages where template include size is exceeded|bane of my existence]] (I've had too many run-ins with that category), this might be the most logical solution. Or, just have general information on the main page and have all games, even the current one, in subpages. [[User:Schiffy|<span style="color:DarkGreen">Schiffy (瀬藤健二)</span>]] ([[User talk:Schiffy|<span style="color:#FF6600">Talk</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|<span style="color:#FF0000">Contribs</span>]]) 21:59, 5/12/2014 (UTC)<br />
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==Impossible Name Icon==<br />
What does that weird Gold Poké Ball on your name mean? [[User:Tag365|Tag365]] ([[User talk:Tag365|talk]]) 12:27, 13 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
:It's not impossible or weird, it means I'm a senior admin. You can see all icons and their meaning on the right side of [[Special:RecentChanges|recent changes]].--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#AB0909">電</font><font color="#063A73">禅</font>]]<small>[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#fff" face="Tahoma"><span style="text-shadow:#000 0.2em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Den Zen</span></font>]]</small>''' 12:40, 13 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Writing Myths as a Section ==<br />
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As many hardcore Pokémon fans know, myths make up a huge part of the fandom. Myths about Pokémon, people, the past, the Great Pokémon War- plenty of myths for each and every one of those topics, Lavender Town being the largest myth generator of them all. Does adding myths as their own section make sense? Perhaps with or after the Trivia? Myths may be exactly what they are - myths, but are a huge part of the Pokémon universe, sometimes eclipsing the thing it's about. I'm a newbie, and, at the time of writing, I've only joined yesterday. Please answer my question. ---[[User:TongueTwisted|TongueTwisted]] ([[User talk:TongueTwisted|talk]]) 21:38, 19 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
:Fan-created myths and stories don't really belong to this wiki, we focus on canon information. There would just be edits wars over which myths are "right" and what myths can/cannot be added. Notable expections are [[Lavender Town]] and [[Vermilion]] truck, which have brief mentions on the trivia sections about their influence on fan myths.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#AB0909">電</font><font color="#063A73">禅</font>]]<small>[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#fff" face="Tahoma"><span style="text-shadow:#000 0.2em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Den Zen</span></font>]]</small>''' 21:58, 19 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Please help me figure this out? ==<br />
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Ok, so I'm trying to figure out the values Rare Soda, Ultra Rare Soda and Colurful Shakes add to a Pokémon's friendship.<br />
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As you know, I am not good with math as stated multiple times, and I remember you said you were a Math Major.<br />
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I used various lv 1 Eevee in the experiment, but that shouldn't hold any real baring on the results.<br />
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37 rare candies = evolution at lv 38<br />
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colorful shake (2,200) + 29 rare candies = Evolution at lv 30 <br />
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colorful shake (2,200) + blended colorful shake (Starf Berry + Cheri Berry) + 21 Rare Candies = Evolution at lv 22 <br />
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colorful shake (2,200) + blended colorful shake (Starf Berry + Chilan Berry) + 18 Rare Candies = Evolution at lv 19 <br />
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colorful shake (2,200) + blended colorful shake (Starf Berry + Roseli Berry) + 18 Rare Candies = Evolution at lv 19 <br />
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colorful shake (2,200) + blended colorful shake (Starf Berry + Ganlon Berry) + 18 Rare Candies = Evolution at lv 19 <br />
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blended colorful shake (Starf Berry + Cheri Berry) + 28 rare candies = Evolution at lv 29<br />
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blended colorful shake (Cheri Berry + Chilan Berry) + 31 rare candies = Evolution at lv 32<br />
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blended colorful shake (Chesto Berry + Chople Berry) + 31 rare candies = Evolution at lv 32<br />
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blended colorful shake (Starf Berry + Chilan Berry) + 25 rare candies = Evolution at lv 26<br />
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blended colorful shake (Starf Berry + Roseli Berry) + 25 rare candies = Evolution at lv 26<br />
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blended colorful shake (Starf Berry + Ganlon Berry) + 25 rare candies = Evolution at lv 26<br />
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colorful shake (3,000) + 27 Rare Candies = Evolution at lv 28<br />
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colorful shake (3,000) + Rare Soda (3 lvs) + 25 Rare Candies = Evolution at lv 29<br />
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colorful shake (3,000) + Ultra Rare Soda (5 lvs) + 25 Rare Candies = Evolution at lv 31<br />
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colorful shake (3,400) + 25 Rare Candies = Evolution at lv 26<br />
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Rare Sode (3 lvs) + 35 Rare Candies = Evolution at lv 39<br />
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Ultra Rare Sode (5 lvs) + 35 Rare Candies = Evolution at lv 41<br />
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Ultra Rare Soda (5 lvs) + Rare Soda (3 lvs) + 34 rare candies = Evolution at lv 43<br />
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Ultra Rare Soda (5 lvs) + Rare Soda (3 lvs) + 24 rare candies given at place met/hatched = Evolution at lv 33<br />
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I know Eevee has a base friendship value of 70 and evolves with max friendship, but every time I try to do the math, I over shoot the limit friendship stops growing. So given this small amount of data, can you please help me figure out the (rough) values of Rare Soda, Ultra Rare Soda and Colurful Shake? [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 19:43, 24 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
:Wow, that'd require lots of work and honestly, I'm pretty lazy. Even though it requires lots of Flying, wouldn't it be easier by checking how many drinks you need to get the ''"It's a little bit friendly to you… Something like that."'' (100+) rating from the friendship rater.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#AB0909">電</font><font color="#063A73">禅</font>]]<small>[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#fff" face="Tahoma"><span style="text-shadow:#000 0.2em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Den Zen</span></font>]]</small>''' 20:13, 24 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
::I think we're on two different pages here?<br />
::This shouldn't require any flying at all, just math which I am not good with.<br />
::I know that Rare candies gives a Pokémon +5 until it reaches 100 value of friendship. they also gain +5 for each level they go up until their friendship value is 100 as well. Between values 100-199 it only increases +3 for every vitamin and lv up, then +2 when the friendship value hits 200 up until the max value at 255.<br />
::A Eevee starts with its friendship at 70, and 37 rare candies max out friendship and induce the evolution to Espeon or Umbreon depending on time of day.<br />
::If I am correct, 1 rare candy alone should raise Eevee's friendship from 70 to 80. 2 rare candies will get you to 90. Then when it's at a value of 99 it only increases by 3 instead of 5.<br />
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::If you give the Eevee a Colorful Shake that cost 2.200 Pokédollars, instead of 37 rare candies by themselves, you only need 29 rare candies to get Eevee to try and evolve. That means the Colorful shake is about the same value as 8 rare candies/lv ups. That is something like 35-36 value or something like that.<br />
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::The work has been done, its just the math that is being tricky, at least for me. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 20:46, 24 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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Ok, I went to the friendship rater and did some test with an lv 1 Eevee of the GTS<br />
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Base Friendship of 70 + 6 rare candies = 100~ Friendship<br />
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Base Friendship of 70 + 23 rare candies = 150~ Friendship<br />
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Base Friendship of 70 + Colorful Shake (3,000) = 100~ Friendship<br />
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Base Friendship of 70 + Colorful Shake (3,000) + 17 Rare Candies = 150~ Friendship<br />
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Base Friendship of 70 + Rare Soda (3lvs boost) = 70-89<br />
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Base Friendship of 70 + Rare Soda (3lvs boost) + 5 Rare Candies = 100~ Friendship<br />
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Base Friendship of 70 + Rare Soda (3lvs boost) + 21 Rare Candies = 150~ Friendship<br />
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Base Friendship of 70 + Rare Soda (3lvs boost) + 38 Rare Candies = 200~ Friendship<br />
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Base Friendship of 70 + Ultra Rare Soda (3lvs boost) = 70-89<br />
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Base Friendship of 70 + Ultra Rare Soda (3lvs boost) + 6 Rare Candies = 100~ Friendship<br />
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Base Friendship of 70 + Rare Soda (3lvs boost) + 22 Rare Candies = 150~ Friendship<br />
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Base Friendship of 70 + Rare Soda (3lvs boost) + 38 Rare Candies = 200~ Friendship<br />
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So it would seem that the Colorful Shake that costs 3,000 pokedollars is likely 30 points of friendship.<br />
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Rare Soda seems to be worth the same a 1 rare candy it seem. However it looks like judging from all the data...the Ultra Rare Soda takes away friendship or doesn't give as much friendship as Rare soda? [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 00:48, 25 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Eevee Evolution Box Template issue ==<br />
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On the Eevee Article, the Evolution box lists ♥♥+Fairy-type instead of ♥♥ + Fairy type move or the TM Icon of Fairy type moves. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 02:58, 1 June 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== I want to mention how you got rid of my triva for {{t|Electric}} type ==<br />
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Hi it's me Pokemonfansuper i thought it was important we mention that so players of the game who do monotype it's actually something that people do not sure if you know about it so i'll explain it you a player has team full of pokemon who share a common type mega evolutions can change type but charziard x can't be on monotype dragon team because it is a {{t|Fire}} {{t|Flying}} type. i thought it could be useful to them especially with magnezone. {{unsigned|Pokemonfansuper}}<br />
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I have an idea would a section for how some logic for the weaknesses and strengths fit in be useful.<br />
--[[User:Pokemonfansuper|Pokemonfansuper]] ([[User talk:Pokemonfansuper|talk]]) 18:23, 5 June 2014 (UTC)<br />
i know i'm editting but how is it notable on ground but not on electric.<br />
--[[User:Pokemonfansuper|Pokemonfansuper]] ([[User talk:Pokemonfansuper|talk]]) 18:25, 5 June 2014 (UTC)<br />
:As a wiki we shouldn't really have metagame trivia like that in mainspace. Our readers should develop strategies by themselves by reading pure facts from articles. Also, please improve your grammar, especially punctuation and capitalization, your posts are pretty painful to read.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#AB0909">電</font><font color="#063A73">禅</font>]]<small>[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#fff" face="Tahoma"><span style="text-shadow:#000 0.2em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Den Zen</span></font>]]</small>''' 18:58, 5 June 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== First Pokemon (Pidgey) on [[Kalos Route 2]] ==<br />
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[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Kalos_Route_2&diff=2093509&oldid=2093460 You said] that the Pidgey trivia needs more research, but exactly what kind of "research" do you mean? Personally, in the several times I've reset one of my games (and a little bit of SR'ing), I always encountered Pidgey at (as I recall) the 2nd step north into the grass and (I believe) it was always the same gender and level. Are you looking for some kind of "proof", or further information like I just mentioned...or what? [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 17:24, 10 June 2014 (UTC)<br />
:Yes, I specifically wanted more information than just "it's always a Pidgey". What about its Nature and IVs? I think you can unhide the trivia if you reword it so that it lists all things about the encounter that are constant.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#AB0909">電</font><font color="#063A73">禅</font>]]<small>[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#fff" face="Tahoma"><span style="text-shadow:#000 0.2em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Den Zen</span></font>]]</small>''' 17:45, 10 June 2014 (UTC)<br />
::For the record, it does not have a set nature or gender. IVs, iirc, has at least one 30, I believe. [[User:ArcToraphim|Kai]] * the [[User talk:ArcToraphim|Arc]] [[Special:Contributions/ArcToraphim|Toraph]] 18:06, 10 June 2014 (UTC)<br />
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==Need some help==<br />
Could you talk to LatS and the edits he is making on the Mega Sableye section on the Mega Evolution talk page because of they way he is doing it is improper. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] ([[User talk:Tyler53841|talk]]) 21:24, 11 June 2014 (UTC)<br />
::Some of these problems were from not signing his post, overwriting my edit when I used an unsigned tag and not making a separate section for later additions to that talk page. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] ([[User talk:Tyler53841|talk]]) 21:30, 11 June 2014 (UTC)<br />
:::If (s)he keeps doing that, I'll notify him/her about it.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#AB0909">電</font><font color="#063A73">禅</font>]]<small>[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#fff" face="Tahoma"><span style="text-shadow:#000 0.2em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Den Zen</span></font>]]</small>''' 21:46, 11 June 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Alternative Finnish names for certain terms ==<br />
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I found my old Crystal version manual just a moment ago and it uses Finnish translations that aren't found on this site. These are "salivalmentaja" for Gym Leader and "arvomerkki" for Badge. They should be mentioned but I'm not sure if they are used in the manual of Red, Blue, and Yellow versions. Likewise, in the Gen III manuals the term "rintamerkki" (a direct translation of badge) can also be found. Later manuals (when listing such things) usually use the terms "salijohtaja" and "salimerkki". [[User: Ariano|Արիանո]] 08:12, 16 June 2014 (UTC)<br />
:I don't have any manuals older than the LG one, so I don't know what translations Gen I manuals use. But I think you can already add the Crystal translations regardless of that.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#AB0909">電</font><font color="#063A73">禅</font>]]<small>[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#fff" face="Tahoma"><span style="text-shadow:#000 0.2em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Den Zen</span></font>]]</small>''' 08:31, 16 June 2014 (UTC)<br />
::Okey-dokey.[[User: Ariano|Արիանո]] 08:38, 16 June 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Userpage Block ==<br />
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I was wondering if I have done enough mainspace edits and went long enough with my block yet. I have made about 100 edits since the ban and was hoping that was enough to get it removed.[[User:Rahl|Chy-i]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 01:56, 4 July 2014 (UTC)<br />
:Even though it's more like 50 edits, I guess that's enough. Just remember to not break the userspace policy anymore or your next userspace block will be much longer. Also, your signature should resemble your username in some way.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#AB0909">電</font><font color="#063A73">禅</font>]]<small>[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#fff" face="Tahoma"><span style="text-shadow:#000 0.2em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Den Zen</span></font>]]</small>''' 07:41, 4 July 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== pokemon powerhouse ==<br />
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why cant we talk about powerhouse or just how powerful the pokemon we seen int he show<br />
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ash snivy having high level moves and able to endure super effective moves well she shown to be very powerful <br />
ash skeptial is major powerhouse or massive powerhouse able to defeat many foes for ash as shown on anime also defeated darkrai, snorlax major powerhouse able to take two pokemon of ash foes down before loosing. ash charizard is the massive powerhouse. --[[User:Terryberry94|Terryberry94]] ([[User talk:Terryberry94|talk]]) 01:34, 28 July 2014 (UTC)<br />
:Because it's kind of redundant; there are so many powerful Pokémon in the anime that we don't have to mention it, and the articles already list the battles and moves that Pokémon have had. Also, as other users have mentioned, you really should improve your grammar so that your edits and messages are easier to read for other users and our readers. You can preview your edits by pressing the 'show preview' button. If you find any mistakes in your edit, you can fix them and then press the 'save page' button.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#AB0909">電</font><font color="#063A73">禅</font>]]<small>[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#fff" face="Tahoma"><span style="text-shadow:#000 0.2em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Den Zen</span></font>]]</small>''' 07:13, 28 July 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Adding when a location is mention to the location's article ==<br />
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Hey, Dennou Zenshi. I have a question from another user on if it would be acceptable to add when a location is mentioned to that location's "In the anime" section. [[User_talk:WATERWARRIOR67#Snowpoint_City_and_Sunyshore_City|Here is the discussion that I have had with them]]. --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 18:40, 16 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
:IMO all mentions about a location can be added to the anime section as long as they also provide new information about the location, such as the location having the next Gym/Contest or being a character's hometown.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#AB0909">電</font><font color="#063A73">禅</font>]]<small>[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#fff" face="Tahoma"><span style="text-shadow:#000 0.2em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Den Zen</span></font>]]</small>''' 19:44, 16 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Userpage creation ==<br />
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How can I add to my own userpage? I clicked in it and I saw that I cannot add anything to any pages that start with '''User'''. I know this is for safety reasons and to prevent multi-accounting, but could you please do something for that? --[[User:PokémonXXXPlayer|PokémonXXXPlayer]] ([[User talk:PokémonXXXPlayer|talk]]) 12:35, 17 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
:You have to become [[Bulbapedia:Autoconfirmed users|autoconfirmed]] first. Just make more mainspace edits and you'll eventually be able to edit your userpage. But remember to not make pointless or stupid edits just to become autoconfirmed.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#AB0909">電</font><font color="#063A73">禅</font>]]<small>[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#fff" face="Tahoma"><span style="text-shadow:#000 0.2em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Den Zen</span></font>]]</small>''' 12:57, 17 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Template:Epilang categorisation ==<br />
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I suggest to add a parameter or something that when a language parameter is inserted to an article using this template, the article automatically is categorised to: Category:List of episodes in <language>; e. g. if parameter gr is inserted to the article using this template, the article is automatically listed to Category:List of episodes in Greek. Thank you for your time. --[[User:PokémonXXXPlayer|PokémonXXXPlayer]] ([[User talk:PokémonXXXPlayer|talk]]) 13:51, 19 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Category:Pokémon page revert ==<br />
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I am confused by the revert that you made to the page. The link I got was to user talk and does not really seem to explain it.<br />
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While I know that the Megas should be in the subcategory with the others, when I try to exit the page that section does not come up nor do I see any other way to edit it. I thought that having the Megas linked there would make sense given they are a specific, separate category of pokémon. Please let me know why this is not the case or, if they should be there, how to edit the page so I can place them in properly.<br />
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Thank you for your time.{{unsigned|Indagare}}<br />
:[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Category%3APok%C3%A9mon_with_Mega_Evolutions&diff=2193908&oldid=1980303 I have added] "Category:Pokémon with Mega Evolutions" to the "Category:Pokémon". As you can see, you must do it by adding the link of the supercategory to the subcategory page, not vice versa.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#AB0909">電</font><font color="#063A73">禅</font>]]<small>[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#fff" face="Tahoma"><span style="text-shadow:#000 0.2em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Den Zen</span></font>]]</small>''' 16:05, 12 October 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== [[Zygarde (Pokémon)|Zygarde]] ==<br />
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On November 3, 2013, you protected this page with the reason "Speculation crackdown: this should be semi-protected until we create pages for those three".<br />
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This makes sense then. And the page is now created. While it didn't stop me editing it now, that protection's still there. I speculate that it's safe to remove that protection at this point, but wanted to raise this and also find out if there's a reason it's still needed. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 08:29, 5 January 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Undoing edits ==<br />
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Hi. I noticed you reverted my edit the hard way. Yeah, I didn't think ''that'' through, though. But there ''is'' an easier way to undo the edit, though the edit ''does'' need to be the latest edit on the page. At the end of the edit description, there's an "Undo" button. All you need to do is to click that link, type in your reason, then click "Save Page"! That's as simple as it gets!<br>This isn't meant to be harrasment of any kind, just a friendly reminder. [[User:?8|???]][[User talk:?8|???]] 20:25, 20 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
:I reverted your edit exactly that way, but I removed the "Undo revision ..." part so that the description wouldn't be too long. In case you didn't know, I am a senior admin and have been here for 4 and half years, so I know very well how to edit.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#AB0909">電</font><font color="#063A73">禅</font>]]<small>[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#fff" face="Tahoma"><span style="text-shadow:#000 0.2em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Den Zen</span></font>]]</small>''' 20:49, 20 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Clemont's Pokémon ==<br />
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Hi Dennou Zenshi. I was wondering if you felt that [[User:Rahl/Clemont's Magneton]] and [[User:Relicant/Clemont's Heliolisk]] are able to be moved into the mainspace. Both of these Pokémon have met the notability requirements and I was hoping to get your approval. Thank you.[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] 16:58, 6 April 2015 (UTC)<br />
:Those pages look fine and as you said, they meet the notability requirements, so it should be okay to mainspace them.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#AB0909">電</font><font color="#063A73">禅</font>]]<small>[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#fff" face="Tahoma"><span style="text-shadow:#000 0.2em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Den Zen</span></font>]]</small>''' 17:15, 6 April 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== About Nkun54543. ==<br />
He wasn't exactly a fail vandal, he didn't spam "485348785fdshfshefhkj" etc all over the place...he could type words. All he wanted was Touhou. You should give him a second chance, I only want to block users who post gibberish like "584689dfsdfjsjd" into Bulbapedia's pages. [[User:Dancingbug11|Dancingbug11]] ([[User talk:Dancingbug11|talk]]) 20:45, 24 April 2015 (UTC)<br />
:Posting gibberish is not the only form of vandalism. He was knowingly adding all kinds of blatantly false, fanfic-like information on articles and removing content, which are actually even worse forms of vandalism. If he had given a better first impression and had also made constructive edits, I wouldn't have blocked him indefinitely. Bulbapedia is a reliable Pokémon encyclopedia, not anyone's personal playground.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#AB0909">電</font><font color="#063A73">禅</font>]]<small>[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#fff" face="Tahoma"><span style="text-shadow:#000 0.2em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Den Zen</span></font>]]</small>''' 21:06, 24 April 2015 (UTC)<br />
:How do you know what he added and removed? Maybe he shoulda used the sandbox to do it. How did he fail? I'm new to this wiki. The best (worst?) was N being a maid. Of course I try to make constructive edits, too. Maybe we should try to give him a second chance? [[User:Dancingbug11|Dancingbug11]] ([[User talk:Dancingbug11|talk]]) 21:31, 24 April 2015 (UTC)<br />
::I think 'fail' in this context is more like internet slang than a literal fail. You can check edits of any user with [[special:Contributions]] tool. [[special:Contributions/Nkun54543|Here are his edits]]. You can see how he edited the page by clicking the 'diff' link. Anyway as I said, what he did deserves him permanent ban. Also, that happened in 2012. Even if I unblocked him he would most likely never notice.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#AB0909">電</font><font color="#063A73">禅</font>]]<small>[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#fff" face="Tahoma"><span style="text-shadow:#000 0.2em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Den Zen</span></font>]]</small>''' 21:47, 24 April 2015 (UTC)<br />
::Nkun's actually on our Pokemon Black 2 Let's Play team, and he seems MUCH nicer now than he was in 2012. [[User:Dancingbug11|Dancingbug11]] ([[User talk:Dancingbug11|talk]]) 22:26, 24 April 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Copied userspace ==<br />
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http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User:Jskylinegtr/Anime_Predictions<br />
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This link goes to a page where a user has copied and pasted a page in my userspace. I wouldn't have minded that he used my style but he has added very little of his own work and even keeps a section where I talk about my own personal predictions. The entire page was copied over to his userspace and I don't feel that should be allowed. He has also made edits to my userspace [[User:05308|<font color="blue">Diamond</font>]] [[Lanturn (Pokémon)|<font color="yellow">Lanturn</font>]] [[User talk:05308|<font color="red">CodeName: 05308</font>]] 16:09, 16 July 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Språk ==<br />
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Hej där Dennou Zenshi jag undrar om du nu är från Finland och talar Svenska på nivå 2 så utgår jag ifrån att du har Finska/Soumi som modersmål :) så varför står inte det på din användarsida? Med vänliga välsningar [[User:Raltseye|Raltseye]] ([[User talk:Raltseye|talk]]) 00:47, 11 August 2015 (UTC)<br />
:Det finns inte en mall i Bulbapedia som säger så.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#AB0909">電</font><font color="#063A73">禅</font>]]<small>[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#fff" face="Tahoma"><span style="text-shadow:#000 0.2em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Den Zen</span></font>]]</small>''' 06:24, 11 August 2015 (UTC)<br />
::Åhå, men du kan ju alltid skapa en :) eller? Det finns ju minst 11 användare här som är från Finland. Med vänliga hälsningar [[User:Raltseye|Raltseye]] ([[User talk:Raltseye|talk]]) 10:34, 11 August 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Main space ==<br />
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This page[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User:Hikaru_Wazana/Ash%27s_Rivals#XY_series] is good enough to go to the main space ?I had been talking with Kenji Girl when I started, but I could see lately she has been having little contact with the site. I have not had much time to contribute as before, but want to least to leave this page ready.--[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] 02:37- 14 August 2016<br />
:I haven't been that active lately either and I'm not sure exactly how mainspacing currently works. {{u|Pokemaster97}} is an editorial board member and the current head of anime and should know better. That said, as for my personal thoughts about the page, it looks good but I wouldn't include May and Rafe and I doubt Ash's rivals need a collective article in the first place.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#AB0909">電</font><font color="#063A73">禅</font>]]<small>[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#fff" face="Tahoma"><span style="text-shadow:#000 0.2em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Den Zen</span></font>]]</small>''' 12:17, 14 August 2016 (UTC)<br />
::Yes about May, I changed my mind after I started the page. However Rafe is an occasion rival like A.J, Shamus or Sho, in the seventh film the focus of Ash is to defeat Rafe. Unfortunately he did not appear again like Astrid (personally I think he is a better rival than Morrison). Do you think better to change these points? My point with this page is to gather these characters in a single article, as some are important for the development of the anime. And some follow the same behavior patterns. Well, thanks for your attention.--[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] 14:09- 14 August 2016<br />
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== [[Receiver (Ability)]] ==<br />
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I've been meaning to ask, why did you put Receiver in the category for {{cat|Abilities with negative effects}}? The Abilities in that category usually have a more direct negative effect than Receiver does. I'm not even really sure what you're taking the negative to be (I can think of a couple possibilities, but I'm not sure what you had in mind). (If you can get on Discord, it may be easier to discuss there.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 19:39, 25 September 2016 (UTC)<br />
:The reason I put it to the category is because you can receive an Ability that ''is'' in the category. But actually I started to rethink about it being in the category myself the other day for the very reason you stated and because similar Ability Trace is not there, but I never remembered to undo my edit :P But I will do so now that I was reminded about it. As for Discord, I haven't used it since accepting the invitation year(s) ago and don't really remember how it works.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#AB0909">電</font><font color="#063A73">禅</font>]]<small>[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#fff" face="Tahoma"><span style="text-shadow:#000 0.2em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Den Zen</span></font>]]</small>''' 19:55, 25 September 2016 (UTC)<br />
::It's basically just a chat. [https://discordapp.com/ Their web page] has links to download it or open it right in your browser. If you've accepted the invitation already, then I imagine it won't be ''too'' hard to find us if you just try opening the app and poke around. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 20:03, 25 September 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Legendary Pokémon ==<br />
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I'm probably being pretty impatient about this issue, but I like to know what's going on so I know when and how I can help. So, regarding the legendary Pokémon, are the staff members discussing it? I couldn't tell what ForceFire meant when he said "whether it takes a day or a year". --[[User:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#287a43">Celad</span>]][[User_talk:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#e85545">onkey</span>]] 15:21, 28 February 2017 (UTC)<br />
:There was some discussion last week that I wasn't part of (I hardly ever go there), and apparently Japanese versions do not say on GTS that those groups are legendary (or mythical), only that they're [[special Pokémon]], so it's too early to say which of them are legendary. Would've been nice if somebody who knew that before me would've said so also publically on the talk page :P--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#AB0909">電</font><font color="#063A73">禅</font>]]<small>[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#fff" face="Tahoma"><span style="text-shadow:#000 0.2em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Den Zen</span></font>]]</small>''' 16:32, 28 February 2017 (UTC)<br />
::Huh, that's interesting. What's the link to the discussion, so I can read it? --[[User:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#287a43">Celad</span>]][[User_talk:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#e85545">onkey</span>]] 16:47, 28 February 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::It's on Bulbapedia staff's private Discord channel.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#AB0909">電</font><font color="#063A73">禅</font>]]<small>[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#fff" face="Tahoma"><span style="text-shadow:#000 0.2em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Den Zen</span></font>]]</small>''' 16:53, 28 February 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::Ah. Thanks anyways --[[User:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#287a43">Celad</span>]][[User_talk:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#e85545">onkey</span>]] 17:12, 28 February 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Duo/trio colors ==<br />
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When I was making the [[Cosmic duo]] article, I decided to play around with the colors for the stat/moveset sections, because I didn't feel {{Color|{{steel color}}|gray}} and {{Color|{{ghost color}}|grayish-purple}} really symbolized Solgaleo and Lunala, so instead I used {{Color|{{Sun color}}|Template:Sun color}} and {{Color|{{Moon color}}|Template:Moon color}}. I was wondering if I could do the same thing with other duos and trios, for example like this:<br />
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{{duostats|flying|249|Lugia|soulsilver|106|90|130|90|154|110|250|Ho-Oh|heartgold|106|130|90|110|154|90}}<br />
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Is that ok? --[[User:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#287a43">Celad</span>]][[User_talk:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#e85545">onkey</span>]] 22:28, 10 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
:I'd rather all Pokémon have type colors on every table for consistency reasons for now, including the Cosmic duo. Most legendaries do not have a designated "version color" for them after all. Also some Pokémon, like the Weather trio, blend too much into their version color too much imo. The colors in this table<br />
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{{duostats|psychic|791|Solgaleo|steel|137|137|107|113|89|97|792|Lunala|ghost|137|113|89|137|107|97}}<br />
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:look just fine to me. I guess it depends on whether one sees Solgaleo as a "Sun Pokémon" or "Steel/Psychic Pokémon"...--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#AB0909">電</font><font color="#063A73">禅</font>]]<small>[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#fff" face="Tahoma"><span style="text-shadow:#000 0.2em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Den Zen</span></font>]]</small>''' 23:56, 10 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
::I've always thought it was a bit odd to represent a Special Pokémon or version mascot by its type color, especially with Pokémon like Solgaleo, Lugia, and the aura trio. With a lot of these Pokémon the type color doesn't really fit. That all being said, I think it would be silly for Pokemon like, say, the Regis to have special colors as their designated color - only version mascots.<br />
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::On another, related note, I feel like it would look better and fit with the rest of the page if the background for the Pokemon picture was a light color template instead of just a regular color template. --[[User:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#287a43">Celad</span>]][[User_talk:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#e85545">onkey</span>]] 13:31, 11 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::As I said, it's subjective which colors reresent them the best. I personally couldn't decide easily, but consistency makes me lean toward type colors. I think you should've asked about this on a general talk page in the first place to get opinions from different people rather than just one arbitrary admin. As for lightening the background color, that requires even bigger approval among the staff since it's a tempate edit.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#AB0909">電</font><font color="#063A73">禅</font>]]<small>[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#fff" face="Tahoma"><span style="text-shadow:#000 0.2em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Den Zen</span></font>]]</small>''' 14:50, 11 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::Who would I talk to for that? --[[User:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#287a43">Celad</span>]][[User_talk:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#e85545">onkey</span>]] 16:12, 11 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::::Looks like you've already posted about it to [[template talk:duostats]]. If nobody is responding, you could ask the head of games, {{u|Jo The Marten}}, about it.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#AB0909">電</font><font color="#063A73">禅</font>]]<small>[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#fff" face="Tahoma"><span style="text-shadow:#000 0.2em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Den Zen</span></font>]]</small>''' 16:53, 11 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::::Yup, I posted it there two days ago, and I didn't get a response, so I brought it to you. Thanks! --[[User:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#287a43">Celad</span>]][[User_talk:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#e85545">onkey</span>]] 16:56, 11 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Russia pokemon ==<br />
What i edited was the truth. I found sources for the info in the Russian internet. Can you not delete the other stuff i wrote??? Like about real reasons for Pokemon cancellation and the popularity of gen 3 and [[Pokemon GO]] in {{wp|Russia}} [[User:ZmeyKolbasnik|ZmeyKolbasnik]] ([[User talk:ZmeyKolbasnik|talk]]) 11:47, 12 April 2017 (UTC) [[User:Zmey Kolbasnik|Zmey (Speaks Russian and lives in Kazakhstan)]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]), 17:45 GMT +6,00 Almaty, Dhaka, 12 April 2017<br />
:One of your edits claimed that literally nobody in Russia cared about Pokemon for over a ''decade''. How am I supposed to take you seriously after that. And just because those pastas or Soviet fanatic websites exist doesn't make them notable on Bulbapedia.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#AB0909">電</font><font color="#063A73">禅</font>]]<small>[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#fff" face="Tahoma"><span style="text-shadow:#000 0.2em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Den Zen</span></font>]]</small>''' 13:05, 12 April 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Makuhita ==<br />
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Hi, this is random but I noticed you hid a vandlism edit (I read it before it was hidden). What makes ce4tain edits be hidden? At Wikipedia edits like the one you hid are normally left in history. I just wanted to know what makes the diffrence here frok Wikipedia. [[User:RubyLeafGreenCrystal|RubyLeafGreenCrystal]] ([[User talk:RubyLeafGreenCrystal|talk]]) 18:15, 7 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
:Mostly to not give others any ideas, I think. Some vandal edits may also be pretty offensive and our readers are generally younger than Wikipedia's. While that edit on Makuhita wasn't so offensive, it's not like keeping it visible for everyone would contribute anything (other than getting somebody giggle, but that's not what Bulbapedia is for).--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#AB0909">電</font><font color="#063A73">禅</font>]]<small>[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#fff" face="Tahoma"><span style="text-shadow:#000 0.2em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Den Zen</span></font>]]</small>''' 19:01, 7 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Moving to Mainspace ==<br />
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Asking here before doing anything. As I have never made a side page or moved a page to the mainspace I was curious as to how the process works and if I have permission or if staff is the only ones allowed to move pages. Any info on how the process would be greatly appreciated for future reference. :) ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|<span style="color:teal">Frozen</span>]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|<span style="color:green">Fennec</span>]]'' 18:12, 29 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
:Well, there aren't really any rules against anyone mainspacing an article (or even creating one directly to the mainspace) if it's clearly notable and is not very poor in quality, and your articles fulfill that criteria. So if you ask me, you could already move them to mainspace and then edit them to unhide mainspace-only stuff and remove userspace templates. Of course if you're not sure, you can always contact an active (note that not everyone marked "Active" on the staff page is actually active in practice) high-ranking staff member specialicing in the article's subject.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#AB0909">電</font><font color="#063A73">禅</font>]]<small>[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#fff" face="Tahoma"><span style="text-shadow:#000 0.2em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Den Zen</span></font>]]</small>''' 19:50, 29 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Moving and naming pages for mainspacing ==<br />
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Hi, I tried to move some voice actor articles to the mainspace but when I tried, it claimed that another page has it's name and so the page cannot be mainspaced. However the page in particular(specifically Wataru Takagi) is a redirect to the List of Japanese voice actors page. So is there a way to possibly rename the redirect in order to allow my article to be mainspaced please(note that it has already been discussed with Pokemaster97 that the articles subject of the voice actors are notably enough to be mainspaced)? Thanks.[[User:Nikuriku|Nikuriku]] ([[User talk:Nikuriku|talk]]) 08:01, 17 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
:I have moved those pages to mainspace. It was in fact impossible to move them without help of someone with page deletion powers (i.e. admin or higher) because it's the only way to get rid of the redirects.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#AB0909">電</font><font color="#063A73">禅</font>]]<small>[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#fff" face="Tahoma"><span style="text-shadow:#000 0.2em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Den Zen</span></font>]]</small>''' 08:24, 17 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
::Interesting, didn't know that. Gee, thanks for mainspacing the articles along with the other ones I made. Much appreciated. Also sorry about a while back for throwing in the totem page that Scizor was the only one not able to be found in the natural area. Forgot all about Charjabug.[[User:Nikuriku|Nikuriku]] ([[User talk:Nikuriku|talk]]) 10:08, 17 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Type effectiveness ==<br />
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Hi there. As you may or may not know, we currently have type effectiveness info spread across three different pages, i.e. [[damage]], [[type]], and [[Type/Type chart]]. "Type/Type chart" was apparently intended to kinda work like a subpage, but I guess it is implicitly clear that it should work as an independent page (and, in fact, despite its title, it is not in [[:Category:Subpages]]); currently, that page basically repeats what "type" says, then adds past generations' type charts, while the section at "damage" mentions "super effective" etc., but has no details like "¼ damage" or type charts (but details on GO that appear to be exclusive to that page).<br />
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I hope you see my issue, but before I continue with my proposal, I propose you may take a short break and open-mindedly/unbiasedly consider what a good solution will be for a few moments.<br />
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My goal is to reduce what information is presented at "damage" to a bare minimum (basically, that's the bullet point and a link), to have "type" still display the current type chart and the idea (because type interaction is an essential part of "type"), and to have all the details somewhere else. And I think a really good solution is to have a page on type effectiveness that combines what is now spread across those pages (''roughly'' similar to {{STAB}}), and is linked to from both "type" (via {{template|main}}) and "damage" (pretty much how it's done already, except the info wouldn't be "detailed below"). Would/could you approve that? (Also, me posting this here should in no way deter SnorlaxMonster or really anyone else from chiming in if desired.) [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 11:33, 16 September 2017 (UTC)<br />
:All of your propositions make more or less sense to me. The "Type effectiveness" section at [[damage]] indeed looks out of place and I'm for removing it. However (albeit not a bad idea), rather than having a page named "Type effectiveness" for detailed information about super-effectiveness etc. and all type charts, I think all that information would also fit into the [[type]] article just fine. And if old type charts make the article seem too long, they could be put under a show/hide button.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#AB0909">電</font><font color="#063A73">禅</font>]]<small>[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#fff" face="Tahoma"><span style="text-shadow:#000 0.2em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Den Zen</span></font>]]</small>''' 15:17, 16 September 2017 (UTC)<br />
::Thanks for your help, that'd be a great solution as well! Actually, I had assumed there was a solid reason why it was initially subpaged (article size etc.), but [[Special:LongPages|as that doesn't seem to be the case]], sure. (The only downside I still see is that I guess show/hide buttons don't work without Javascript, and it's not the bottom of the page in this case.)<br />
::May I propose you take care of merging the two "type"s then (since I lack your powers), and I'll take care of what's at damage thereafter? [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 17:40, 16 September 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::Um, I was just telling my opinion on the matter. While doing the said content removal to [[damage]] and re-redirecting words like "[[super effective]]" could be done already (it's dumb how "[[type effectiveness]]" redirects to [[type]] while effectiveness messages redirect to damage), merging articles is something I'm fairly sure needs wider staff approval.<br />
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:::So I think you should add {{template|merge}} to [[Type/Type chart]] and add a talk page section about the merge, stating your reasons and maybe linking to this dicussion. That way the issue can get more attention from staff and non-staff alike and get an actual resolution.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#AB0909">電</font><font color="#063A73">禅</font>]]<small>[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#fff" face="Tahoma"><span style="text-shadow:#000 0.2em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Den Zen</span></font>]]</small>''' 18:33, 16 September 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::Well, I admit there's a little hope you had access to something that could help.. speed things up a little? (Anyway, I don't want to pressure you personally; I'm kinda happy with what you already did.)<br />
::::I'll officially propose the merge then. I'd like to wait with moving the damage stuff for a couple days, cause ''if'' there's approval for the merge within the next week or so, it's really easier to start there. (And it'll be quite some work either way.) [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 10:24, 17 September 2017 (UTC)<br />
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==Mainspacing VA articles==<br />
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Hi there, I have some articles on voice actors that I'd like to be mainspaced. When a time is convenient, are you able to mainspace the articles for me please? I'm unable to as you said in a previous message, only those with admin powers can delete redirects. The pages can be found on my userpage under the 'pages made but currently in userspace'. Thanks(note that it has already been discussed with Pokemaster97 that the articles subject of the voice actors are notably enough to be mainspaced).[[User:Nikuriku|Nikuriku]] ([[User talk:Nikuriku|talk]]) 01:48, 7 October 2017 (UTC)<br />
:I moved all of them but Rintaro Nishi's page, as he has had a role only in one episode. I've also edited all moved pages to fit into the mainspace, but I'm not going to do relinking.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#AB0909">電</font><font color="#063A73">禅</font>]]<small>[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#fff" face="Tahoma"><span style="text-shadow:#000 0.2em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Den Zen</span></font>]]</small>''' 07:45, 7 October 2017 (UTC)<br />
::Thanks! Really appreciate it! Yeah, I'll do the relinking myself as well as link the character articles to their respective VA's.[[User:Nikuriku|Nikuriku]] ([[User talk:Nikuriku|talk]]) 11:13, 7 October 2017 (UTC)<br />
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==Mainspacing Gladion(anime) ==<br />
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This page[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User:Hikaru_Wazana/Gladion_(anime)] is good enough to go to the main space ?.--[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] 03:01- 07 January 2018<br />
:The intro and infobox need some editing and the Character section is empty, but otherwise it looks good. However, since it's not clear if that page is actually needed, you should first add the [[template:split]] to [[Gladion]], start a discussion, and wait until it gets an approval from the Editorial Board.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#AB0909">電</font><font color="#063A73">禅</font>]]<small>[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#fff" face="Tahoma"><span style="text-shadow:#000 0.2em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Den Zen</span></font>]]</small>''' 08:51, 8 January 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Wigglytuff ==<br />
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[[File:Pokémon Quiz XY046.png|left|thumb|200px|''The Clumsy Crier Quiets the Chaos!'''s Pokémon Quiz featuring Wigglytuff]]<br />
The [[Pokémon Quiz]] for ''[[XY046|The Clumsy Crier Quiets the Chaos!]]'' confirms that {{p|Wigglytuff}} are {{t|Normal}}/{{type|Fairy}}. As mentioned on [[Talk:Misty's Togetic#Fairy type]], Pokémon that are retconned as being part Fairy are not acknowledged as having the type unless the anime has confirmed the species as being part Fairy. --[[User:PKMNAdventurer|PKMNAdventurer]] ([[User talk:PKMNAdventurer|talk]]) 19:34, 12 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
:The Pokémon also has to physically appear after the type retcon, something those Wigglytuff haven't done. See how we consider {{OBP|Ethan|EP101}}'s Magnemite a pure Electric type and [[Jessie's Arbok]]'s Bite a Normal move.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#AB0909">電</font><font color="#063A73">禅</font>]]<small>[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#fff" face="Tahoma"><span style="text-shadow:#000 0.2em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Den Zen</span></font>]]</small>''' 20:30, 12 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== [[Sea Cottage]] Bill's Secret Garden rumours ==<br />
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Hi Dennou, long time no speak. I'm contacting you because ForceFire has decided that the Bill's Secret Garden rumour shouldn't be included on the [[Sea Cottage]] page, so I am seeking a second opinion. I have provided a wealth of information on the talk page showing that it is a highly notorious (and persistent) rumour on par with [[the truck]] and [[Mewthree]], and merits inclusion in the wiki. If you can weigh in, I'd appreciate it. --[[User:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] [[User talk:Poppy Appletree|:3]] 14:39, 20 November 2018 (UTC)</div>
Poppy Appletree
https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Sea_Cottage&diff=2883551
Sea Cottage
2018-11-20T14:33:33Z
<p>Poppy Appletree: Reverting ForceFire's edit. I have provided a huge wealth of evidence for the rumour's spread and notoriety on the talk page, so its notability cannot be denied.</p>
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<div>{{incomplete|2=Missing interior images}}<br />
{{Infobox location<br />
|image=Cerulean Cape HGSS.png<br />
|type=land<br />
|location_name=Sea Cottage <br />
|japanese_name={{tt|岬の小屋|みさきのこや}}<br />
|translated_name=Cape Cottage<br />
|location=Northeast of [[Cerulean City]] on {{rt|25|Kanto}}<br />
|region=Kanto<br />
|generation={{Gen|I}}, {{Gen|II}}, {{Gen|III}}, {{Gen|IV}}<br />
|map=Kanto Route 25 Map.png<br />
}}<br />
The '''Sea Cottage''' (Japanese: '''{{tt|岬の小屋|みさきのこや}}''' ''Cape Cottage'') is a small building located in the northeast of [[Kanto]] on {{rt|25|Kanto}}. It is on Cerulean Cape and is home to [[Bill]].<br />
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==In the games==<br />
[[File:Sea Cottage interior RBY.png|thumb|left|200px|Sea Cottage in {{game|Red and Blue|s}}]]<br />
[[File:Sea Cottage FRLG.png|thumb|right|200px|The Sea Cottage in [[Generation III]]]]<br />
In Generations {{gen|I}}, {{gen|III}}, and {{gen|VII}}, the Sea Cottage is home to Bill. While experimenting with his Teleporter, he was accidentally combined with a {{p|Clefairy}}{{sup/3|FRLG}}/{{p|Nidorino}}{{sup/7|PE}}, and he asks the player to help him by running the Cell Separation System for him. After he is back to normal, he rewards the player with a [[S.S. Ticket|ticket]] for the [[S.S. Anne]]. In Generations I and III, Bill's computer contains info about {{p|Eevee}}, {{p|Flareon}}, {{p|Jolteon}}, and {{p|Vaporeon}}, allowing the player to add their seen entries to their [[Pokédex]], while in Generation VII, it instead contains info regarding the [[Legendary birds]] and their habitats.<br />
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In Generations {{gen|II}} and {{gen|IV}}, [[Bill's grandfather]] is housesitting the Sea Cottage and will ask the player to show him certain Pokémon. In return, he will give out related [[evolutionary stone]]s.<br />
{{left clear}}<br />
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==Items==<br />
{{Itlisth|land}}<br />
{{Itemlist|S.S. Ticket|Reward for helping [[Bill]] turn back to normal|R=yes|B=yes|Y=yes|FR=yes|LG=yes|LP=yes|LE=yes}}<br />
{{Itemlist|Everstone|From [[Bill's grandfather]] for showing him a {{p|Lickitung}}|G=yes|S=yes|C=yes|SS=yes}}<br />
{{Itemlist|Everstone|From Bill's grandfather for showing him a {{p|Jigglypuff}}|HG=yes}}<br />
{{Itemlist|Fire Stone|From Bill's grandfather for showing him a {{p|Growlithe}}|G=yes|C=yes|HG=yes}}<br />
{{Itemlist|Fire Stone|From Bill's grandfather for showing him a {{p|Vulpix}}|S=yes|SS=yes}}<br />
{{Itemlist|Leaf Stone|From Bill's grandfather for showing him an {{p|Oddish}}|G=yes|S=yes|C=yes|HG=yes|SS=yes}}<br />
{{Itemlist|Thunder Stone|From Bill's grandfather for showing him a {{p|Pichu}}|G=yes|S=yes|C=yes|HG=yes|SS=yes|display=[[Thunder Stone|Thunderstone]]}}<br />
{{Itemlist|Water Stone|From Bill's grandfather for showing him a {{p|Staryu}}|G=yes|S=yes|C=yes|SS=yes}}<br />
{{Itemlist|Water Stone|From Bill's grandfather for showing him a {{p|Marill}}|HG=yes}}<br />
{{Itlistfoot|land}}<br />
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==In the anime==<br />
[[File:Bill Lighthouse.png|thumb|250px|Bill's Lighthouse in the {{pkmn|anime}}]]<br />
{{main|Bill's Lighthouse}}<br />
While the Sea Cottage does not appear in the anime, the [[Bill's Lighthouse|lighthouse]] in ''[[EP013|Mystery at the Lighthouse]]'' fills the same purpose as the home of Bill.<br />
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{{Ash}} and {{ashfr}} first stumbled across the lighthouse after Ash {{pkmn2|caught}} a {{AP|Krabby}} and it disappeared. When {{an|Brock}} explained that Krabby was sent to [[Professor Oak's Laboratory]] due to Ash already having six Pokémon [[party|on hand]], Ash immediately wanted to call {{an|Professor Oak}} to see if Krabby made it safely. Spotting the lighthouse, the group decided to visit it in the hopes of being able to use a phone there. At the lighthouse, the group met Bill, who told them about the history of the [[Pokémon world]]. He also told them about a {{pkmn2|giant}}, {{p|Dragonite|mysterious Pokémon}} that he had been researching. Coincidentally, that giant Pokémon ended up showing up at the lighthouse that night, but due to {{TRT}} attacking it, the Pokémon ended up destroying the lighthouse and leaving almost immediately, despite Bill's pleas for it to stay.<br />
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==In the manga==<br />
===In the Pokémon Adventures manga===<br />
[[File:Sea Cottage Adventures.png|thumb|230px|Sea Cottage in Pokémon Adventures]]<br />
The Sea Cottage debuted in ''[[PS009|...But Fearow Itself!]]'' as {{adv|Bill}}'s home and the place where he makes all of his inventions. Bill was transformed into a mutated {{p|Rattata}} by accident when he was fixing one of his two Pokémon Transporters. As a Rattata, Bill got snatched by a {{pkmn2|wild}} {{p|Fearow}}, which {{adv|Red}} saved him from before {{pkmn2|caught|catching}} it. Later Red helped Bill to turn back to normal, and as a thanks, Bill offered Red the chance to use the [[Pokémon Storage System]] to lessen the amount of Pokémon he had to carry around with him.<br />
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The Sea Cottage reappeared in the {{chap|Yellow}}, where {{adv|Green}} snuck into the house in order to find information about the missing Red, believing the culprits behind his disappearance also having been behind her own childhood kidnapping. Bill, thinking she was a burglar, tried to attack her, but was quickly overpowered by [[Blasty]]. Green managed to convince Bill into helping her, but before they could find out anything other than that Red had withdrawn his [[Vee|Eevee]] from the Storage System after his disappearance, they were attacked by a {{p|Hitmonlee}}, which the [[Elite Four]] had sent after them, forcing the two to escape.<br />
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In the {{chap|Omega Ruby & Alpha Sapphire}}, it was revealed that Bill had kept the {{OBP|Ruby|item}} and {{OBP|Sapphire|item}} retrieved from [[Team Rocket]] during the {{chap|FireRed & LeafGreen}} at the Sea Cottage. Bill noticed that the gems had started changing back into the [[Colored orbs|orbs]] they had been before, and called Red and Green to his cottage to investigate, because {{adv|Blue}} was away from Kanto at the time. However, before Red and Green could reach the Sea Cottage, Bill was attacked by [[Maxie]] and [[Archie]], who stole the reforming orbs and headed towards [[Hoenn]] on Bill's boat.<br />
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==Rumors==<br />
===Bill's Secret Garden===<br />
Due to the map featuring an open area behind the cottage in the Generation I games, a widely circulated rumor claimed that players could unlock an area known as "Bill's Secret Garden", where all kinds of rare Pokémon could be found.<ref>https://www.gamesradar.com/uk/rumors-everyone-believed-about-pokemon/</ref><ref>https://www.techradar.com/uk/news/gaming/gotta-debunk-em-all-the-pokemon-rumors-and-urban-legends-we-all-fell-for-1315898</ref><ref>https://www.thegamer.com/pokemon-areas-that-are-impossible-to-find-and-how-to-find-them/</ref><br />
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==Layout==<br />
{{mapgen<br />
|genI=Cerulean Cape RBY.png<br />
|sizeI=200px<br />
|genII=Cerulean Cape GSC.png<br />
|sizeII=170px<br />
|genIII=Cerulean Cape FRLG.png<br />
|sizeIII=250px<br />
|genIV=Cerulean Cape HGSS.png<br />
|sizeIV=250px<br />
}}<br />
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==In other languages==<br />
{{langtable|color={{locationcolor/med|land}}|bordercolor={{locationcolor/dark|land}}<br />
|zh_yue=海角小屋 ''{{tt|Hóigok Síu'ūk|Cape Cottage}}'' {{tt|*|Games}}<br>海岸小屋 ''{{tt|Hóingohn Síu'ūk|Seaside Cottage}}'' {{tt|*|Manga}}<br />
|zh_cmn=海角小屋 ''{{tt|Hǎijiǎo Xiǎowū|Cape Cottage}}'' {{tt|*|Games}}<br>海岸小屋 ''{{tt|Hǎi'àn Xiǎowū|Seaside Cottage}}'' {{tt|*|Manga}}<br />
|fr=Villa du Cap<br />
|de=Küstenhaus<br />
|it=Miramare<br />
|ko=호수공원의 오두막 ''{{tt|Hosugongwon-ui Odumak|Lake Park Cottage}}''<br />
|pt_br=Casebre do Litoral (manga)<br>Chalé do Mar (The Official Pokémon Handbook)<br />
|ru=Дом на побережье ''Dom na poberezh'ye''<br />
|es=Casa del Mar<br>Casa del mar{{sup/4|HGSS}}<br />
|vi=Căn hộ trên mũi đất<br />
}}<br />
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==See also==<br />
* {{rt|25|Kanto}}<br />
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{{Kanto}}<br><br />
{{Project Locations notice}}<br />
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[[Category:Kanto locations]]<br />
[[Category:Red, Blue and Yellow locations]]<br />
[[Category:Gold, Silver and Crystal locations]]<br />
[[Category:FireRed and LeafGreen locations]]<br />
[[Category:HeartGold and SoulSilver locations]]<br />
[[Category:Let's Go, Pikachu! and Let's Go, Eevee! locations]]<br />
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[[de:Bills Küstenhaus]]<br />
[[it:Miramare]]<br />
[[ja:みさきのこや]]<br />
[[zh:海角小屋]]</div>
Poppy Appletree
https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Sea_Cottage&diff=2883550
Talk:Sea Cottage
2018-11-20T14:31:45Z
<p>Poppy Appletree: /* Inclusion of Bill's Secret Garden rumour */</p>
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<div>==Merge with Sea Cottage and Bill's Lighthouse?==<br />
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Cerulean Cape and Sea Cottage are both stub articles. Bill's Lighthouse, while not a stub, is still quite short. All three deal with essentially the same material, though Bill's Lighthouse is only in the Anime, while the Sea Cottage is in the games and other canon. I think the three articles should be merge to flesh out one larger, better article that deals with Cerulean Cape and it's landmark of the Sea Cottage/Lighthouse as a whole rather than split into three small articles. [[User:Kumori Satosuke|Satosuke]] 14:51, 8 October 2008 (UTC)<br />
:I agree. [[User:Ht14|<span style="color:#D5AA00"><sup>''ht''</sup></span>]][[User talk:Ht14|<span style="color:#C0C0C0"><small>''14''</small></span>]] 13:55, 17 February 2009 (UTC)<br />
::I brought it up {{red link|Talk:Sea Cottage|here}} and I'm going to do it again. I agree as well.--[[User:Clarky13|<span style="color:#0000FF;">'''Clarky'''</span>]][[User talk:Clarky13|<span style="color:#000000;">'''13'''</span>]] 14:02, 17 February 2009 (UTC)<br />
:::I agree merging Sea Cottage with this one, but not sure of Bill's Lighthouse. We have tons of anime-exclusive location, so that one might belong to those. '''<span style="color:#A2958D">►</span>[[User:Kevzo8|<span style="color:#E3E3E3">Ҝə</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|<span style="color:#E6E6EE">υz</span>]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|<span style="color:#BBBBBB">ø8</span>]]''' 14:15, 17 February 2009 (UTC)<br />
::::I'll Do this now. But what should we call it?--[[User:Clarky13|<span style="color:#0000FF;">'''Clarky'''</span>]][[User talk:Clarky13|<span style="color:#000000;">'''13'''</span>]] 14:16, 17 February 2009 (UTC)<br />
:::::Cerulean Cape is fine. Just, um, redirect the old page to the new one next time you merge something :D &mdash; <small>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<font color="#0000C8">THE TROM</font></small>]] &mdash; 05:35, 18 February 2009 (UTC)<br />
::::::Yep. Got a bit into a edit war with that, but I added info to thee pages. :D--[[User:Clarky13|<span style="color:#0000FF;">'''Clarky'''</span>]][[User talk:Clarky13|<span style="color:#000000;">'''13'''</span>]] 05:50, 18 February 2009 (UTC)<br />
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==Merge with Cerulean Cape and Bill's Lighthouse?==<br />
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Cerulean Cape and Sea Cottage are both stub articles. Bill's Lighthouse, while not a stub, is still quite short. All three deal with essentially the same material, though Bill's Lighthouse is only in the Anime, while the Sea Cottage is in the games and other canon. I think the three articles should be merge to flesh out one larger, better article that deals with Cerulean Cape and it's landmark of the Sea Cottage/Lighthouse as a whole rather than split into three small articles. [[User:Kumori Satosuke|Satosuke]] 14:51, 8 October 2008 (UTC)<br />
:I am going to bring this up again. Satosuke makes a valid point, [[Bill's Lighthouse]] and Sea Cottage are both very short articles.--[[User:Clarky13|<span style="color:#0000FF;">'''Clarky'''</span>]][[User talk:Clarky13|<span style="color:#000000;">'''13'''</span>]] 13:32, 11 February 2009 (UTC)<br />
::The main discussion for this topic is located [[Talk:Sea Cottage#Merge with Sea Cottage and Bill's Lighthouse?|here]]. &mdash; <small>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<font color="#0000C8">THE TROM</font></small>]] &mdash; 05:35, 18 February 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Bill's Grandpa ==<br />
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Okay, so I've shown Bill's grandpa all the pokemon he asks to see (in HGSS). Here's the list of pokemon and the stones you get in return:<br />
* Lickitung - Everstone<br />
* Oddish - Leaf Stone<br />
* Staryu - Water Stone<br />
* Vulpix - Fire Stone (in SS, possibly Growlithe in HG)<br />
* Pichu - Thunderstone<br />
Is this information worth including in this article? --[[User:Oatzy|Oatzy]] 22:04, 9 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
:I had to show him a Jigglypuff to get an Everstone, not a Lickitung. Could it be because we're playing different versions? I'm using HeartGold. --[[User:Paranoid Trainer|Paranoid Trainer]] 23:30, 10 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
::Yeah, probably is. I'm playing SoulSilver. Do you know if any of the others different?<br />
:::Well, Oddish and Pichu are definitely correct, and your Growlithe guess was on the money, but instead of a Staryu I'm being asked for a Marill. Or at least, the description matches Marill perfectly (round and blue, with a white belly and a floating tail end), but since I don't have one yet I can't confirm it yet. --[[User:Paranoid Trainer|Paranoid Trainer]] 00:05, 12 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::Sounds about right, yeah. What was the order he asked to see them in?--[[User:Oatzy|Oatzy]] 13:46, 14 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
:I have HeartGold, and can confirm that he asks for the Oddish first. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 15:06, 14 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
::I just confirmed Marill in HG. Oddish was first for me as well, followed by either Jigglypuff and Growlithe, and then the other. Sadly I can't recall with of them was second and which was third, but I'm almost certain Pichu was the 4th and Marill was definitely the last. --[[User:Paranoid Trainer|Paranoid Trainer]] 01:46, 15 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::Haven't gotten the Water Stone part yet, but in HG for me, it was Oddish, Growlithe, Jigglypuff, Pichu. [[User:Kumori Satosuke|Satosuke]] 17:47, 11 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== SS Anne ticket ==<br />
Shouldn't this item be on the item list for R/B/Y and FR/LG? [[User:Moltres93|Moltres93]] 10:22, 21 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Inclusion of Bill's Secret Garden rumour ==<br />
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I have added a section regarding the Bill's Secret Garden rumour. This is one of the most infamous rumours in Pokémon history, on par with [[the truck]] and [[Mewthree]], and I believe this should remain in the article. To this day articles are written about this - see the following links: [https://www.gamesradar.com/uk/rumors-everyone-believed-about-pokemon/] [https://www.techradar.com/uk/news/gaming/gotta-debunk-em-all-the-pokemon-rumors-and-urban-legends-we-all-fell-for-1315898] [https://www.thegamer.com/pokemon-areas-that-are-impossible-to-find-and-how-to-find-them/][https://www.thegamer.com/pokemon-areas-that-are-impossible-to-find-and-how-to-find-them/]. I genuinely think it cheapens the wiki not to mention the existence of this rumour, especially when it was seemingly referenced in the Generation IV games with the [[Trophy Garden]], similar to how the truck had a hidden [[lava cookie]] added as a nod to the rumours in FRLG. --[[User:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] [[User talk:Poppy Appletree|:3]] 12:53, 20 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:All those sites are clickbait sites on par with buzzfeed and does not make it "infamous". The Mew rumor is the most well known rumor of the three, while Mewthree is part of the Fakemon article, so I treat that as talking about "Mewthree the fakemon" and not "Mewthree the rumor". The "Secret Garden" is just not as well known as the other two.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 13:49, 20 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:: Since you seem keen to ignore how widespread and well-known this rumour is, I have compiled a (non-exhaustive) mentions of the rumour, which you can see below. Several of these include people ''still'' spreading the rumour more than 20 years later, so it's almost negligent not to mention it on the ''premier Pokémon wiki''.<br />
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::You can call literally anything clickbait these days because the standard of news has degraded exceptionally, but I'm honestly not sure what you're expecting with regards to Pokémon. Most traditional news sources give incorrect details about Pokémon anyway because they don't care enough to cover it properly. A bunch of those sites which have posted articles (TechRadar, GamesRadar, Syfy, Screenrant, Den of Geek, Destructoid) are very well-known sites. With the combination of those articles you would pass ''Wikipedia's'' notability standards, and they have come down hard on this kind of thing.<br />
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::The Bill's Secret Garden is notorious, long-lived, well-documented, and ''still being spread to this day''. It is notable enough for this wiki, and that will be the case regardless of what you say, because your opinion on this matter is blatantly counterfactual. As such, I am reversing your removal of the Secret Garden rumour. --[[User:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] [[User talk:Poppy Appletree|:3]] 14:31, 20 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
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===Articles===<br />
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https://www.complex.com/pop-culture/2013/01/the-10-most-bizarre-schoolyard-pokmon-rumors/bills-gardenmountainforrest<br />
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https://www.grunge.com/32359/false-facts-pokemon-always-thought-true/<br />
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http://aribaa.com/2018/01/surfing-glitch-pokemon-red-blue/<br />
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https://www.techradar.com/uk/news/gaming/gotta-debunk-em-all-the-pokemon-rumors-and-urban-legends-we-all-fell-for-1315898<br />
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https://www.gamesradar.com/uk/rumors-everyone-believed-about-pokemon/<br />
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https://www.thegamer.com/pokemon-areas-that-are-impossible-to-find-and-how-to-find-them/<br />
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https://www.syfy.com/syfywire/fact-theres-a-lost-original-pokemon-game-that-americans-never-played<br />
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https://screenrant.com/pokemon-gold-silver-hidden-locations/<br />
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http://www.oldandnewtoys.com/our-blog/the-best-forgotten-pokemon-urban-legends<br />
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https://cinemashelf.com/theory-raider-1-pokemon-red-blue/<br />
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https://skirmishfrogs.com/2016/03/04/pokemon-day-week-7-top-myths-from-gen-1/<br />
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https://www.denofgeek.com/us/games/pok-mon/258818/chasing-mew-how-the-world-became-obsessed-with-pokemon<br />
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https://www.poke-blast-news.net/2015/09/5-mitos-sobre-pokemon-nos-quais-voce.html<br />
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https://www.giantbomb.com/pokemon-redblue/3030-3966/<br />
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http://www.syfygames.com/news/article/exploring-the-weird-world-of-pokmon-urban-legend-jessicafamularo<br />
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https://twinfinite.net/2016/02/10-pokemon-red-and-blue-myths-you-probably-fell-for/<br />
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===Fansites===<br />
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http://pokegods.wikia.com/wiki/Bill%27s_Secret_Garden<br />
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http://gaming-urban-legends.wikia.com/wiki/Bill%27s_Secret_Garden<br />
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https://glitchcity.info/wiki/Surf_down_glitch<br />
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https://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~jdonald/pokemon/ssanne.html<br />
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https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/UrbanLegendOfZelda/Pokemon<br />
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http://en.illogicopedia.org/wiki/Pokemon_cheats<br />
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https://www.facebook.com/BillsSecretGarden<br />
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http://floatzel.net/pokemon/pokemon_rumors.htm<br />
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http://www.rigelatin.net/copycat/games/mewrumors.php<br />
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https://aminoapps.com/c/pokemon/page/blog/myths-behind-the-glitches-part-2/Mjhk_uadKjrb61WngqZ6nnN13Vxw4p<br />
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http://harveststone.tripod.com/homepage_console/rumors.htm<br />
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http://editthis.info/fake_cheats/Pokemon#Bill.27s_secret_garden<br />
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https://cheatcodesnow.ise.com.bd/cheat-guide/faq-3-pokemon-yellow-gameboy-53125/<br />
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===Discussion topics===<br />
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https://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=138709<br />
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http://arvee3zy.tumblr.com/post/11342420988/bills-secret-garden<br />
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http://www.neoseeker.com/forums/3298/t636831-bills-secret-garden/<br />
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https://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=151782<br />
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https://www.reddit.com/r/twitchplayspokemon/comments/48hm5c/could_someone_clarify_on_bill_secret_garden/<br />
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https://www.supercheats.com/gameboyadvance/questions/pokemonleafgreen/200566/is-it-possible-to-get-all-3-le.htm<br />
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http://www.answers.com/Q/How_do_you_get_to_bills_secret_garden_in_Pokemon_fire_red<br />
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https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090807160420AAEfL2y&guccounter=1<br />
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http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/22699-13-frlg-celio-phrases<br />
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/907714-pokemon-blue-version/46871149<br />
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https://omggirlsgame.wordpress.com/tag/pokemon-red-rumor/<br />
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http://forums.pokemontcg.com/topic/12690-pok%C3%A9mon-memes/<br />
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http://boards.4chan.org/vp/thread/37022107/dumbshit-rumors-you-belived-as-a-kid<br />
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https://www.destructoid.com/experience-points-28-pokemon-red-blue-325884.phtml<br />
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https://www.neogaf.com/threads/rttp-the-pokemon-all-721-of-them-and-counting.1120680/page-65<br />
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https://forums.serebii.net/threads/the-worst-and-the-best-old-pokemon-1st-gen-rumors.430057/<br />
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https://www.math.miami.edu/~jam/azure/forum/buzz/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=4;t=000256;p=<br />
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https://animesuperhero.com/forums/threads/legit-way-to-get-mew-in-pokemon-blue-red-yellow.3337661/<br />
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http://www.cheatsguru.com/nds/pokemon_soul_silver/questions/2153368/<br />
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https://twitter.com/pokemon/status/917812373255110656?lang=en<br />
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https://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.201136-Fake-game-rumors-from-the-past?page=3<br />
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https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/history-of-pok%C3%A9mon-fan-speculation.3607682/<br />
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===Videos===<br />
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrhdZVN1qT4<br />
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfWPy4JXCtk<br />
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4A8YUZQK30<br />
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6E9mZrkSg8<br />
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cONW--1dVo<br />
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62Pl6OIUSTM<br />
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5C57tp5DmCk<br />
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRnaaGCdP-8<br />
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdhEtMsn1ug<br />
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===Artwork and stories===<br />
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https://www.deviantart.com/bluespeon/art/Bill-s-Secret-Garden-Magazine-606852169<br />
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https://www.fanfiction.net/s/8024317/1/Bill-s-Secret-Garden<br />
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https://www.deviantart.com/ibolrock/art/Bill-s-Secret-Garden-186768405<br />
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http://www.nerdragecomic.com/index.php?date=2013-11-22<br />
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http://fyeahpokemoncreepypasta.tumblr.com/post/19400092319/leaf-green-beta<br />
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https://memegenerator.net/instance/57825682/pokemon-kid-help-me-find-bills-secret-garden-hell-give-me-mewthree</div>
Poppy Appletree
https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Force_Fire/Archive_9&diff=2883548
User talk:Force Fire/Archive 9
2018-11-20T13:57:48Z
<p>Poppy Appletree: /* Sea Cottage and Trophy Garden */</p>
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<div>{{User:Force Fire/Archive}}<br />
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== Subpages of a userpage ==<br />
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Hello, I noticed you warning people about their userpages, so I thought you'd be the right person to ask this. The thing is, I would like to create a subpage listing my in-game teams using the standard team template, since I want there to be more things related to Pokémon and me on my page. I wanted to ask whether or not it is allowed at all and what I should keep in mind besides not editing excessively. Thank you! [[User:Kikugi|Kikugi]] ([[User talk:Kikugi|talk]]) 10:16, 9 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Making subpages for that is fine, the rules for subpages is the same as a normal userpage. An edit to your subpage also counts to the "three userspace edits per day" rule.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 10:28, 9 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Another offensive username ==<br />
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Puta is a really rude word in Spanish(I think the account maker failed to use proper alts, but their intent is clear...is this worth your time for an unacceptable username?--[[User:BlisseyandtheAquaJets|BlisseyandtheAquaJets]] ([[User talk:BlisseyandtheAquaJets|talk]]) 17:16, 9 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== "Not everything is a pun" ==<br />
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...I never said everything is, but SM is known for them and "ワル" is not a Japanese word, but "warui" (悪い) is! And since it's spelled as "ワル" and "Warubiaru" (ワルビアル) is in the episode it makes sense it's a pun. I have no idea what your problem is and I don't care, but I've already explained why it's a pun. "ワル" isn't used as "bad" in katakana, but words are used in different characters when they're a joke. Like the episode with Dhelmise with "Ikari" (anger) being used as "いかり" as "anchor" but the same spelling "Ikari" also can be used to mean "怒り" (anger). [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]]) 19:31, 12 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Please respond and change it back because it's not spelled the right way, meaning it is a pun. I don't care what your problem is, but not correctly addressing a pun in a title that clearly has one just makes Bulbapedia look stupid. I've been obvious why it's a pun. Why can episode titles like SM071, SM065, and SM040 be acknowledged but not this? [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]]) 14:54, 13 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Just because "waru" is written in katakana, doesn't mean it no longer means "悪" or has a different meaning. "ワル" is still "悪", it's not some nonsensical word. And yes, "悪" can be used by itself. As for the title, "waru" could also be referring to Nanu, considering his attire and the fact the title includes "oyaji" (since it's "...waru oyaji wa...").<br />
::As for the other episodes, they're fine. Ikari can mean either Anchor and Anger, like you said, so that's a pun. "Mairimasu" ''is'' pure nonsense and could only be a pun. "Pan-paka-pan" is a trumpet fanfare with just happens to include the word "pan", and the episode was about bread.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 15:20, 13 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::The idea that not translating a pun is bad needs to be addressed.<br />
:::Translating puns is HARD.<br />
:::It is ''not'' always worth wracking your brain over or compensating for otherwise. And it's not even necessarily worth forcing something. Not translating a pun does not make Bulbapedia look stupid... [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 15:37, 13 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Surge/Terrain confusion ==<br />
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There's confusion going on in the anime whether the [[Tapu]] are activating their signature abilities or using the Terrain moves. This issue has been resolved with {{DL|Recurring wild Pokémon in the anime|Tapu Koko}}, but people are still mixing up {{DL|Recurring wild Pokémon in the anime|Tapu Lele}} and {{DL|Recurring wild Pokémon in the anime|Tapu Bulu}}'s Abilities with their Terrain moves. When Tapu Lele and Tapu Bulu activated their Abilities {{a|Psychic Surge}} and {{a|Grassy Surge}} respectively, users are assuming that they are using the attacks {{m|Psychic Terrain}} and {{m|Grassy Terrain}} instead. That is not the case. In ''[[SM037|Rising from the Ruins!]]'' and [[SM075]], when Tapu Lele and Tapu Bulu enter battle with Rockruff and {{AP|Lycanroc}} respectively, their Surge Abilities go off at the start of their battles. This happened with Tapu Koko as well when it battled {{AP|Pikachu}} in ''[[SM002|The Guardian's Challenge!]]'' and ''[[SM019|A Guardian Rematch!]]''. The Terrain moves can go off during any point of the battle, however the Surge Abilities can only activate when the Pokémon enter the field. Another point to show that it's their abilities activating in those episodes and not their attacks is in ''[[SM052|Revealing the Stuff of Legend!]]'' where all four Tapu used the four Terrain moves to show {{Ash}} and {{ashfr|the gang}} [[Nebby#In_the_anime|Nebby]]'s backstory. Even the anime makes mistakes as shown in SM075 where [[Acerola]] and {{Rotom}} misidentify Tapu Bulu's Grassy Surge as Grassy Terrain. --[[User:PKMNAdventurer|PKMNAdventurer]] ([[User talk:PKMNAdventurer|talk]]) 21:32, 18 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I've removed them and added a hidden notice. Abilities and moves need to be explicitly said, especially those that would potentially have the same exact animation.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 03:11, 19 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Ok, looks like Psychic Terrain was confirmed via dub captions (which is fine, until/unless the Japanese version says that it's something else later on). Grassy Terrain was said, which you've noted. Is it an error? We don't know. But for now, it is not an error unless they contradict themselves and call it Grassy Surge later on. At the end of the day, the is no confusion. Assuming moves is something you shouldn't be doing. If it is said or revealed in close caption, then that's final.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 12:08, 19 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Ok. I wanted to make sure if the move used was either the Terrain Move or the Surge Ability. Thank you for clearing it up. --[[User:PKMNAdventurer|PKMNAdventurer]] ([[User talk:PKMNAdventurer|talk]]) 20:48, 19 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Requests ==<br />
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If you would be so kind, could you please hear me out and consider doing a couple things I can't do (at least without permission, in some cases):<br />
* Template {{template|Trainerentry}} has several handy redirects for Trainer classes that have changed their names over the years, such as "Cooltrainer" to "Ace Trainer" and "Rocket" to "Team Rocket Grunt". However, there are several Trainer class name changes that have either been missed or happened after the template was last edited, like "Rocket Grunt"{{tt|*|From Generation II}} to "Team Rocket Grunt", "Pokéfan" to "Poké Fan", "Swimmer ♂/♀" to "Swimmer", and "Clerk ♂/♀" to "Office Worker". There may be others than these, but anyway, my point is, could you please add the missing redirects to the template in the same way as the already existing redirects?<br />
* Back in January, I suggested that the [[Pokémon League (Alola)/Title Defense]] page should be split into separate SM and USUM Title Defense pages. I've already got the USUM section ready right [[User:FinnishPokéFan92/Pokémon League (Alola)/Title Defense/Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon|here]] under my own userspace in case the idea gets approved. Do you think the page should be split?<br />
* Ummm... I recall having a third request, but it doesn't come to my mind right now. I'll come back if I can remember it.<br />
:--[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 12:59, 20 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
::I've added the examples you've provided. If there are any more, do let me know.<br />
::I've forwarded the article with the other staff members.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 08:16, 21 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Thank you for hearing me out. And indeed, I've discovered a few more redirect links that should be fixed: "Officer" and "Policeman" to "Police Officer", "Interviewer" to "Interviewers", "Socialite" to "Madame", and "School Kid" to "Schoolkid". Also, a couple of other things related to this subject:<br />
::::In Generation II, the "Swimmer" class was classified as "Swimmer♂/♀", as in without a space, while in Generation VI, it's "Swimmer ♂/♀", as in ''with'' a space. The latter redirect is yet to be fixed.<br />
::::In Generation II, the Trainer class that would later be known as "Schoolkid" was called "Schoolboy", hence why "Schoolboy" redirects to "Schoolkid" (or rather "School Kid", a redirect link). And then, in Generation VI, we were introduced to the separate "Schoolboy" Trainer class. As such, the Schoolboy links from Generation VI now lead to an incorrect article (similar to the "Medium" link from [[Saffron Gym]]'s page, actually, due to the Channeler class's renaming in Stadium, but that's a much more minor subject). I know this may be an impossible or at least a difficult problem to solve properly, but I decided to bring it up nevertheless, just in case.<br />
:::The request I forgot about yesterday is actually a pretty old one: back in 2013, I made a suggestion to change the {{template|Gym Leaders of Unova}} to better separate the BW and B2W2 Gym Leaders from each other, but my edit (which you can see [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Template:Gym_Leaders_of_Unova&oldid=1865505 here]) was undone, because I hadn't talked about it beforehand. Since then, I've forgotten, remembered, and re-forgotten this multiple times, but now I've finally managed to make myself bring this long-forgotten topic up again. Could the template be edited in this or at least in a similar kind of way, or do you feel it's good enough as it is?<br />
:::Also, I've also come up with a couple new things I'd want to propose since yesterday: could "Tide Song Hotel" and "Kantonian Gym" receive their own articles? I've already asked people's opinions about these ideas on [[Heahea City]] and [[Malie City]]'s talk pages, and at least the Tide Song Hotel split seems to have gotten some support already. Could you take these splits into consideration as well? Thank you.<br />
:::--[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 10:04, 21 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::Oh, and while I'm at it, I also found one Orre Trainer class redirect to fix: "Fun Old Lady" to "Matron". --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 12:35, 21 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::Ah, didn't see the subtle difference with the Swimmer trainer class. I've added the other TCs.<br />
:::::I think the Unova Gym Leader Template is fine the way it is. Repeating the same Gym Leaders is pretty unnecessary, while I do get why, the template is about who are the Gym Leaders, separating by game isn't necessary. Plus, the three newer Gym Leaders being at the bottom of the first eight already implies that they were added later on.<br />
:::::I've forwarded those suggestions to the other admins as well.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 05:11, 24 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::I actually just saw you making that edit. Thanks a lot.<br />
::::::I understand. It's fine. I won't raise that topic again.<br />
::::::Thanks once again. I'll be waiting for the results. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:36, 24 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::Sorry to bother you again, but I've found a couple more links to fix, mainly from the Orre games:<br />
::::::::Let's get the simpler ones out of the way first: "Researcher" and "Cipher R&D" to "Scientist".<br />
::::::::Now, for something I'm not so sure of: the Orre-exclusive classes "Rogue" "Kaminko Aide", and "Robo Groudon" are Trainer classes used by only one person each, and they also only appear as redirect links on one page each. Hence why I'm not sure if these redirects should be removed or not. What do you think?<br />
::::::::And finally, something a bit different, but still involving the same template. A big number of Fighting-type Trainers in FireRed and LeafGreen have their Pokémon holding Black Belts. However, the template links the "Black Belt" held item to "Type-enhancing item#Black Belt". This was understandable before, but now "Black Belt (item)" has its own article. Could you change the link to go to the item's own page now?<br />
:::::::Thank you. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 06:59, 25 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::Done. As for the three single trainer trainer classes, I think they're fine, due to the way the template works (the second parameter is under a TC template, so their has to be a [name] (Trainer class) link.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 03:29, 26 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::Thank you once again. However, when I looked at your edits, I also happened to notice that, similar to the Black Belt link you fixed, the held item link for "Metronome" leads to "In-battle effect item#Metronome". I can understand that you didn't notice that during your edit, so I'm not blaming you of anything, but could you be so kind and fix that one, too? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:25, 26 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::Whoopsie! Every time I think I'm done with this issue, I notice something new. The redirect link of "Poké'''F'''an" to "Poké Fan" has been fixed, but it's formatted as "Poké'''f'''an" on every pre-Generation VI page (as well as on the "Poké Fan (Trainer class)" article), and ''that'' redirect link still remains to be fixed. Could you do this one more thing? I'm sorry if you feel bothered by this. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 12:40, 27 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::::(deep sigh) One. More. Once again I've noticed something. In Generation II, some Poké Fans had their Pokémon holding Berries, as in "Berry (item)", but link just goes to "Berry". Could that be fixed? PS. I also have other stuff to talk about with you, but I'll probably start a new section for that purpose later. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 08:04, 2 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Force preview question ==<br />
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I've heard about the force preview group, where you have to preview your edits before publishing them. And I thought it might help me slow down and evaluate if my edits are actually helpful, since I have a tendency to act impulsively. Is it possible to ask to be put in that group? I was just curious. [[User:Veralann|<span style="color:#ffa900;">'''Incentive'''</span><span style="color:#00c7ff">''' (a.k.a. Veralann)'''</span>]] 02:49, 21 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== PokeShay ==<br />
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I think it was a little harsh to block him for that. You could've just asked about it on his talk page. --[[User:Raltseye|<span style="color:#FF6464">R</span><span style="color:#11BB11">alts</span><span style="color:#6464FF">eye</span>]] [[User talk:Raltseye|prata med mej]] 16:03, 24 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== "Pokémon seen" lists for movie locations ==<br />
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I wasn't too sure who to ask about this, though I have noticed that some movie-based locations have got the "Pokémon seen" lists and others don't. What is the requirement for these types of pages?. E.g. The Lake of Life has an incomplete list whilst Forina and the Tree of Beginning do not have any list, instead the Pokémon are just listed in the description section. <br />
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Also who is the authority on uploading images to the archives? I have a few images in mind that are needed to complete other pages like the Pokémon mate page. <br />
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Thanks. [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 09:55, 28 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Locations where Pokémon actually live there have the Pokémon list. Though I'm not too sure if it's needed, as most are just wild Pokémon. Maybe if they play a large role in the area, such as the titans in Tree of Beginning, then they can be listed. Otherwise, it's unnecessary. As for the archives, you have to create an account at the archives and wait to be autoconfirmed there (the requirements are the same as it is on the wiki).--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 02:43, 29 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
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::Thank you for the information. [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 09:36, 29 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Unaccpetable username ==<br />
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[[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Special:Contributions/Son_of_a_gun]] {{unsigned|RubyLeafGreenCrystal}}<br />
:No it's not.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 02:43, 29 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Bulbapedia lagging ==<br />
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Not really sure if this is the appropriate place to ask, but is the site undergoing updates or something? Loading for this site is lagging for me. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 20:45, 29 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
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:Never mind. The issue seems to have resolved itself. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 21:48, 29 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Could I have my userspace privileges back? ==<br />
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It's been like 6 years and I mostly just wanna delete it lmao --[[User:Pokelova|Pokelova]] ([[User talk:Pokelova|talk]]) 12:17, 31 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Done.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 14:18, 31 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Edgreen293 ==<br />
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{{user|Edgreen293}} is at it again ([https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Chopper&diff=prev&oldid=2803690] [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Janet&diff=prev&oldid=2803692] [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Damian&diff=prev&oldid=2803693]). [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 22:29, 5 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
: I might also add {{user|Tygamer64}} since both GrammarFreak01 and I were discussing him on his talk page. Since he has made rather pointless edits and we were told to report these cases. '''Ice''' [[User talk:The IceCream|Cream]] 15:25, 6 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== RE: Episode links ==<br />
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The links I added are from a licensed Pokémon copyright holder, so there is no copyright issue here. They are all legal.--[[User:Magicknight94|Magicknight94]] ([[User talk:Magicknight94|talk]]) 09:31, 6 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Did you read my reply?--[[User:Magicknight94|Magicknight94]] ([[User talk:Magicknight94|talk]]) 14:52, 7 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
::You still can't link to full episodes or episode clips, regardless of whether it comes from an official source or not.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 04:35, 8 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Why not? If copyright is not the issue here, what is the problem? Can you explain? --[[User:Magicknight94|Magicknight94]] ([[User talk:Magicknight94|talk]]) 07:33, 8 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Hello?--[[User:Magicknight94|Magicknight94]] ([[User talk:Magicknight94|talk]]) 05:22, 11 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::Be patient. Force Fire is probably busy. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 05:31, 11 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::The issue '''is''' copyright. We choose not to link to episodes available on streaming sites, regardless of it being from an official source or not, just to be on the safe side. Also, the link you provided was for the Vietnamese dub, which I don't think anyone visiting an ''English'' wiki would be interested in.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 05:14, 12 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Pokemon 4ever working title? ==<br />
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https://www.serebii.net/archive/September-2000.shtml Scrolling down that page a bit shows a 7-frame promo for a project simply called ''Pokémon 2001'' and one of the frames shows a Celebi, no plans to currently add anything about it to the Pokémon 4ever page but I was wondering what your thoughts were on this. ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|<span style="color:teal">Frozen</span>]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|<span style="color:green">Fennec</span>]]'' 14:05, 13 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Do you have another source for that other than Serebii? Serebii is not a credible source, as it's a fansite.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 13:10, 14 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Nope, just randomly came across that and given how old the page was, got a little curious. Tried to reverse image search the frames but could not find anything at all. ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|<span style="color:teal">Frozen</span>]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|<span style="color:green">Fennec</span>]]'' 13:12, 14 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Not sure if I can post this video, but here's video proof. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Od-eFQhVRI [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]]) 13:56, 14 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::Oh wow, did not know there was still video footage, I just thought it was those seven screenshots. Wonder if this would be worth adding to the Pokémon 4ever section as trivia. ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|<span style="color:teal">Frozen</span>]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|<span style="color:green">Fennec</span>]]'' 14:01, 14 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== PardescanSlowbro ==<br />
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I'm having a really big problem with {{user|PardescanSlowbro}} right now. I once sent him [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2768197&oldid=2766807 this message] in response to his editing style, and [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2768426&oldid=2768197 he took it pretty personally] (even though I was also [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AGrammarFreak01&type=revision&diff=2768465&oldid=2766949 in the wrong here]). Since then, the user has made edits to a variety of articles, and I've commonly had to edit them to rectify errors that he made. For example, [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=EP045&type=revision&diff=2809520&oldid=2806418 he very recently edited] the plot summary of [[EP045]] and [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=EP045&diff=next&oldid=2809520 this] was what I did to improve it (note that I also did some unrelated changes at the same time).<br />
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[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2801230&oldid=2801220 I once tried] to inform him of some of the kinds of errors he kept making in his edits, like [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AGrammarFreak01&type=revision&diff=2768465&oldid=2766949 you suggested], but [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2801256&oldid=2801230 this] was his response. He also said [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2801220&oldid=2801168 this beforehand]. [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2801258&oldid=2801256 I tried] to be rational and explain myself this time, but the conversation did not move forward anymore, so I gave up trying to reason with him and just resorted to editing at his heels whenever I saw an error. He eventually [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2809534&oldid=2809278 got agitated] by this. [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2809538&oldid=2809534 I tried] asking for specifics about his complaints of me, but [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2809541&oldid=2809538 he claimed I already knew what I was doing] (I legitimately do not). After I [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2809547&oldid=2809541 responded a couple of times], he went on [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2809557&oldid=2809547 a tirade] against me.<br />
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If any, if not all of his grievances towards me are legitimate, then I do apologize immensely. But I sincerely believe I've been trying to be helpful and he just rebuffs it. Either way, could you please step in? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 07:39, 17 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
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:He also had [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2809565&oldid=2809561 this] to say recently. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 07:44, 17 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
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::{{user|Tiddlywinks}} has [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:PardescanSlowbro&diff=0&oldid=2809568 pitched in]. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 19:25, 17 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Harassment Procedure ==<br />
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Dear ForceFire,<br />
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I have felt personally vindicated and harassed by the user GrammarFreak01 on a continuous basis. I have pleaded to be left alone by the user and made them clearly aware of my feelings on their conduct towards myself. I was never under the assumption that any of my edits were to be untouched, though found the user in question deliberately followed and made, in some cases minor and pointless changes to over 40 pages (Episode 1 to 46 and some associated anime pages) directly after I did over recent days. The pages in question, at least the plot sections required some detail corrections but until my additions had not been looked at for several years. I had earlier requested significant action be taken against the user on Tiddlywinks page after an earlier spate of unexplained deletions to additions which were quickly reinstated by Tiddlywinks. Nothing came of this request on Tiddlywinks page, and the behaviour has persisted and worsened into vitriol that centres on GrammarFreak01's belief I referred to them as racist, though nothing of the sorts has occurred. I can no longer handle the barrage of blatancy and continuous harassment written on my discussion page by GrammarFreak01, and wish for those actions to end. At all times I have maintained my distance, and have thanked the user for their efforts when they have worked in collaboration with myself. Though their commentary and vicious attacks on my supposed sensitivities and linguistics must end. I have let things slide, despite my discontent, as to avoid further escalation. The user has been told to maintain their distance and respect previously written advices to improve their conduct, though such warnings remain unheeded and their pattern of behaviour towards me continues to intensify. I am completely naïve when it comes to Bulbapedia's bullying procedures, though require strong action be taken to ensure the harassment, belittlement and bullying that I have been exposed to by user GrammarFreak01 does not ever repeat.<br />
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I look forward to your reply, though will maintain my reserve and distance nonetheless,<br />
[[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 12:04, 17 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
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: Seeing as I have been the only one to receive any commentary it is best I be moved on. My claims have been outright ignored and also denied, despite the sheer amount of evidence to say otherwise. At the very least the user in question should have been told to remain at a distance, though has immediately gone on the attack again; though of course I am making everything up and overreacting as you pointed out. As such, please delete my account, this forum is no longer suitable to myself, my temperament or my skills. Thanks.[[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 13:44, 18 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Move trivia ==<br />
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How do I know if trivia about moves is notable? The stuff I add sometimes gets undone even if it's unique to that move. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 17:54, 18 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Depends on what the trivia is.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 05:34, 19 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
::I guess a recent example would be my attempt to add a trivium to thunder wave. It said that thunder wave is currently the only status move whose effectiveness depends on the type chart, so that ground Pokemon were immune because it was electric type and not because it was programmed separately. I thought it was unique and notable, but it was taken down. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 17:57, 19 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Erica124 yet again ==<br />
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{{user|Erica124}} has once again shown [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Walking_Pok%C3%A9mon&type=revision&diff=2810509&oldid=2808316 her inability] to use her force preview, despite [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AErica124&type=revision&diff=2808504&oldid=2771952 my earlier warning]. Maybe it's time to let her go? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 04:24, 19 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Perma-blocking her is for the staff to decide, not you. You also need to calm down when approaching "problem" users, yes their continuous wrongdoings can be frustrating, by try to keep a level head when dealing with them. As for blocking, it's not excessive. Can't do much if it's a once in a while thing.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 05:34, 19 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Oh, I thought you were part of staff? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 06:56, 19 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Also, just so you know, it's not a once-in-a-while thing. Erica124 made [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Walking_Pok%C3%A9mon&type=revision&diff=2756991&oldid=2756735 the same exact error] on the same article before, and [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AErica124&type=revision&diff=2808504&oldid=2771952 I did warn her about it once]. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 06:59, 19 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::I am. A perma block is something that needs to be discussed with other staff members first, not just immediately executed, unless the user we're dealing with is a vandal. <br />
::::Yes, but her recent spate of unpreviewed edits aren't happening as frequently as it did back in March. She's not editing daily. She only didn't use the preview button on one article today. The last one before today was June 15th, four days ago. And the one before that was last month. Compare it to March where it was almost daily. --[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 07:25, 19 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::Oh, okay. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 07:51, 19 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Reply ==<br />
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Anything to say on my page? [[User:RubyLeafGreenCrystal|RubyLeafGreenCrystal]] ([[User talk:RubyLeafGreenCrystal|talk]]) 06:39, 26 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Quick query==<br />
This is present in the trivia section on the Slowbro page:<br />
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*Slowbro's Pokédex entries state that if the Shellder is removed, it will revert to its Slowpoke form. <br />
**This is the only mentioning of a Pokémon possibly devolving anywhere in the Pokémon games, aside from a card in the game versions of the TCG.<br />
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The first part is fine, the second point is incorrect as Exeggutor can also revert. Should the second point be deleted entirely as it both untrue and not unique or altered to include a connection with Exeggutor<br />
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e.g Slowbro and Exeggutor are the only recorded cases of Pokémon capable of devolution [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 12:43, 28 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
:The second point may be removed as it is not unique to one Pokémon.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 13:19, 28 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
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:: No worries, thank you.[[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 13:40, 28 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Poké Problem characters list ==<br />
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OK, so my recent edit of [[SM080]] was taken down by you on the basis that, since the Pokémon I put on the appearance list appeared exclusively in the episode's Poké Problem, it doesn't deserve a mention (since Poké Problems are part of the episode apparently). I've also noticed that some edits on [[SM079]] also got erased on the same reason. Yet previous episodes' character lists feature characters that only appeared in the episodes' Poké Problem segments (for example Brock & Misty's siblings in [[SM042]]'s case and Harper and Sarah for [[SM071]]). As such, I have to wonder why its sometimes okay for characters and Pokémon that appeared exclusively in the Poké Problem of an episode to be mentioned on the character lists of said episode, but other times it's not OK? [[User:Pulsaro23|Pulsaro23]] ([[User talk:Pulsaro23|talk]]) 17:03, 29 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Then those need to removed from their episodes and any other episodes that list PokéProblem appearances needs to be fixed. PokéProblem is a segment similar to Who's That Pokémon, it is not part of the actual episode.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 13:57, 30 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
::While I'll agree that the Poké Problem and Who's that Pokémon segments share a similarity (the fact that they are tied to a situation/Pokémon from the episode), they are also very different. By that I mean that, while the WtP segment doesn't have any impact on the overall story of the episode, the bonus scenes shown after the Poké Problem segments expand upon the story of the episode (personally, I'd say they're very similar to the after-credits scenes form the Marvel & DC movies). For example, the Poké Problem segments for SM022 and SM057 feature scenes that resolve the episodes' ending cliffhangers, while others, like the ones for SM042 and SM030, flesh out more of the characters' personality and traits, as well as showing their relationships with other characters. As such, I'd say that, while Poké Problem segments are really part of the main episode, they still have some degree of importance, since the scenes shown at the end of those segments expand upon the main theme/story/characters of the episode (and as such, they should, as you say, "count"). Plus, in the case of the XY series, characters that appeared exclusively in its Poké TV segments were mentioned on the appearance list for its episodes (e.g. XY096, XY099, XY106 etc.). So why should the Poké TV segments receive special treatment and the Poké Problem ones not? [[User:Pulsaro23|Pulsaro23]] ([[User talk:Pulsaro23|talk]]) 14:37, 30 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Usage of the word "native" ==<br />
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{{user|PardescanSlowbro}} is [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Raichu_%28Pok%C3%A9mon%29&type=revision&diff=2813914&oldid=2812285 concerned] about using the word "native" to describe the residents of [[Alola]] in the {{p|Raichu}} article, due to its connection to indigenous peoples who have been plagued with stereotypes and also its purported implicit nature as a development discourse, thus making it potentially offensive to some people. I did not see anything wrong with the word's usage, however, since it can alternatively be used as a synonym for "resident" or "citizen", as I [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2813930&oldid=2813886 pointed out to him]. He's still concerned and has [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:PardescanSlowbro&diff=next&oldid=2813930 pointed out] that official literature no longer uses the word, seemingly making it taboo, even though I have still heard it being used in the context I just described.<br />
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Do you think it is appropriate to use "native" in any shape or form here? I'm not aware of any other articles here that use the word. I do acknowledge the potential issue of indigenous peoples being offended, but I don't think anyone will be offended given the word's context in the Raichu article. What do you think? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 06:12, 30 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
:It's fine to use the word "native". No need to think that someone will get offended by the word.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 09:44, 30 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
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:: You failed to acknowledge my concerns, and reverted my re-edit after GrammarFreak01 again deleted it. The latest addition aided the sentence in making it more concise, and as stated, the phrase 'the natives' is not used by the Pokémon Company in any of it literature, and probably for good measure. The term 'native' to mean local makes sense though should only be applied to describe an area or plant such as on the Vileplume page under the biology section. I would like another opinion as you have allowed a good edit to be reverted[[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 05:52, 1 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::It's very clear you changed the sentence because of your dislike of the word "native", whether it was a good change or not. You made the change because there was a word you didn't like. That's why it got reverted. There's is nothing wrong with using the word. The Pokémon Company not using it doesn't mean we can't use the word. You're thinking too much into the negative connotation of the word.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 06:00, 1 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::: Negative connotations is your justification? I saw the term and looked at it as an opportunity to make a positive change in line with one of Bulbapedia's major aims, inclusivity. Allowing the phrase 'the natives' is an issue as it is loaded language and may be used on other pages in much the same way. But correcting the term to something more global and neutral has become the issue, leaving aside the issues associated with using this turn of phrase in the first place, even though the original editor of course had no intention of being racist or degrading to particular demographics. By actually allowing this term to pass through with your acceptance, you are also condoning the use of this term in much the same way across potentially other articles and it may enter people's own thoughts on people of different backgrounds. Inclusivity was my motivation because of the so-called negative and very true reality for many individuals on this planet, that terms like this are harmful. I cannot imagine the editor's guide has any detail on this specific turn of phrase, though it would diffidently be designed to uphold inclusivity of all peoples.[[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 06:23, 1 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::You just admitted that the editor that added the word had no intention of being racist or degrading, if you already think that then it shouldn't be an issue. It's not offensive unless someone makes it offensive. The sentence is in no way written in an offensive manner, and no one will take it as an insult. You're looking to much into it.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 06:57, 1 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::I'm afraid you are wrong when it comes to the development discourse, it is an issue incidental or not. I am going to contact someone higher up to alert them to my concerns about the phrase, not word, "the natives", as you have plainly ignored the fact that such terminology is typically avoided due to taboo and discrimination surrounding it. Thanks [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 07:06, 1 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::When used correctly, "native" can also be "global and neutral". The only way it can be considered "loaded language" is if the person writing it in question ''makes'' it loaded language. I understand the history behind the word, and I also understand that the current political climate makes usage of certain words even more dangerous, but if the word has alternate meanings that are more acceptable, then I don't see why we must avoid using it, no matter how incidental the racism. If you have a problem with it, take it up with Merriam-Webster, not the admins here. If someone else does have a problem with it, we'll talk it out, see where it goes. But in the meantime, we can't simply just avoid using a certain word out of concern of potentially offending someone, even if the word in question is used in an appropriate, non-offensive context. I can't think of anyone else here who would think this word, or similarly loaded language of any kind, should be omitted in its entirety even though it's being used in a non-offensive context. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 07:11, 1 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::Exactly. The word is not used in a derogatory manner, it is completely fine. It's all about context, and in this case, the context is not offensive. The only person that has a problem with it is you, Pardescan. And we won't change it just because one person thinks it may be offensive. I'll repeat this again, because you seem to be ignoring it, '''you are looking too much into the negative aspects of the word'''.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 07:32, 1 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::It looks like [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AAbcboy&type=revision&diff=2814552&oldid=2806683 he's made good on his promise]. I've already pitched my counterargument. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 07:43, 1 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Template mainspace request ==<br />
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For the new Light trio page, there would need to be six Pokémon in the stats section, but there is no such template. I made a [[User:Celadonkey/Template:Groupstats/6|template]] for it and I wanted to know if I could mainspace it to add to the Light trio page. --[[User:Celadonkey|Celadonkey]] 14:05, 3 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Integration of Spaceworld Iterations of Existing Pokémon ==<br />
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I felt I would ask this here, since you're the one who linked the in-progress pages for the Pokémon Gold/Silver Spaceworld demo and you seem to know what the plans for them are, and the Gold and Silver Beta discussion page is rather cluttered and doesn't seem like a good place to catch the attention of anybody in particular.<br />
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There are a number of Pokémon added for the demo that did end up being released as official Pokémon, such as the Mareep, and Phanpy lines, Crobat, Espeon, Umbreon, Miltank, and others, who are present in the Spaceworld demo build, sometimes with different names and subtly-different designs. Additionally, there are Pokémon such as Haneko, Poponeko, and Wataneko, Gift, Blissey, Scissors, Leafeon, etc. that are very obviously earlier drafts of Pokémon that would appear in Generation II or later.<br />
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Are these Pokémon going to be integrated into the site differently compared to, say, Pokémon like Honoguma, Kurusu, Norowara, Wolfman, or Twinz, that were very clearly cut entirely and have yet to appear in any official, publicly-released Pokémon game?<br />
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As an aside, how are name labels going to be handled for Pokémon such as Kingdra, Girafarig, and Bellossom, whose final names are already present and in use in the demo? It seems to me that the sensible thing to do would be to label them with their final English names, since the names they have do have official English-language counterparts, and it would be clearer and easier to read for readers who might be unfamiliar with with the Japanese names of those Pokémon.<br />
[[User:Topaz Light|Topaz Light]] ([[User talk:Topaz Light|talk]]) 14:38, 3 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Right now, the focus should be filling out the userpages with information before all that. The staff will figure out how the handle them in the mean time.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 05:58, 4 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== A Small Request ==<br />
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Hi. A while ago I had asked to be put in the forcepreview group for editing. If possible, I think I'm ready to edit without needing to look at all my edits beforehand. If you could please take me out of forcepreview, and abuse as well, I would really appreciate it. Thank you. [[User:Veralann|<span style="color:#ffa900;">'''Incentive'''</span><span style="color:#00c7ff">''' (a.k.a. Veralann)'''</span>]] 19:57, 5 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I'll take you out of force preview, but not out of abuse. You have not made nearly enough mainspace edits to warrant be placed out of abuse. Being away for a month means absolutely nothing. If you want out of abuse, prove that you will contribute more to the mainspace by making a whole lot of edits there.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 05:04, 6 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Random question ==<br />
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On the Pokemon articles, why do the Pokedex entry, location, and sprite tables always put Emerald before FireRed and LeafGreen even though Emerald was released after? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 18:42, 12 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Probably to group the hoenn games together.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 05:18, 13 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Thanks for answering, I guess. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 06:03, 13 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Bulbapedia lagging again ==<br />
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It seems this site is becoming very laggy for me. Is there an issue with the site? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 06:28, 16 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Site's running smoothly for me. Probably something on your end.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 06:37, 16 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Well, it seems the site's running smoothly for me now. It might've had something to do with the connection. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 06:42, 16 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== List of locations by name ==<br />
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I personally think the page should stop excluding named routes. Even if we somehow made the definition clear, I still don't want people checking both that page and "list of routes" to see if either of them has the location they want. I also don't see a good reason for the exclusion. I think excluding cities and numbered routes is okay because people can tell if somewhere is a city or numbered route just by looking at the name. Even then, I'm leaning toward including cities because some places (like Two Island) don't end in "City" or "Town" and aren't obviously cities. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 05:40, 18 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Staff imitating user ==<br />
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{{u|Форс файре}} is a cyrillisation of your name. --[[User:Raltseye|<span style="color:#FF6464">R</span><span style="color:#11BB11">alts</span><span style="color:#6464FF">eye</span>]] [[User talk:Raltseye|prata med mej]] 18:47, 18 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Nintenchris5963 ==<br />
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The user {{user|Nintenchris5963}} added something to the [[Talk:Mt. Silver]] which I'm pretty sure isn't allowed on talk pages. Should the comment he made be removed or should it stay? (I'm only asking since it's normally not allowed to remove Talk Page comments). '''Ice''' [[User talk:The IceCream|Cream]] 10:46, 19 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:You can remove comments that breach the talk page policy.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 11:53, 19 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== "Faint" versus "Get knocked out" ==<br />
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"Faint" is the more technical term, so I try to change "knocked out" to "faint" wherever I can. Also, a few days ago, I tried to look for information about fainting by doing ctrl+f "faint" and couldn't find anything because the article said "knocked out" instead, so what I wanted took me a few minutes longer to find. I eventually made that edit in attempt to save time for anyone who might attempt the same thing in the future. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 15:03, 29 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:That sounds like a problem specifically for you. We are not going to cater the site whenever you face a problem. "Knocked out" carries the same meaning as "fainted", like what else could it possibly mean.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 15:21, 29 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
::The reasons why "fainted" is better than "knocked out", however insignificant, exist. Is there a reason why "knocked out" is better than "fainted"? And aren't we supposed to use technical terms over "fanmade terms" whenever possible? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 23:25, 29 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Neither is better, but both '''mean the same thing in spirit''' (unable to battle). It's not a necessary change. And "knocked out" is not "fan made" it's just a word used to substitute "fainted". Using a word that is not official doesn't make the word "fan made", that's just being ridiculous. Don't change things because you couldn't find something, just because you couldn't find something doesn't mean everyone else will face the same problem.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 02:57, 30 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::If neither is better, why do you care which one the article says? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 17:28, 30 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::Because it's an '''unnecessary change'''. Just because we use another word other than fainted, doesn't make that word fan-made. Like in a plot synopsis, we're not going to use the term "fainted" every time a Pokémon faints, we're going to use other terms like "knocked out" from time to time. Y'know, have a bit of variety in our articles.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 05:12, 31 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::That section was a game mechanic, not a plot synopsis. Aren't they different? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 17:45, 1 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::That's not the point. The point is, '''it's an unnecessary change'''. Stop reading what you want to read. It doesn't matter if it's not using the word "faint". Using another word other than "faint" doesn't make the article more inaccurate. It's just a word. You're thinking too much into it. No one will get confused by the term "knocked out". They'll know what it means.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 05:09, 2 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::I think what Force Fire tries to tell you isn't "don't change specifically this to specifically that", it's rather "don't change '''anything''' if the change doesn't clearly improve the article". The larger the number of edits, the more work there is for the servers; we should only change anything if it's justified. That's why he cares which one of the equally good terms stays — because changing it will unnecessarily overload servers. First come, first served in this case. [[User:Kikugi|Kikugi]] ([[User talk:Kikugi|talk]]) 15:37, 4 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Mallow Tsareena Sweet Scent ==<br />
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Hi. So in SM082 Mallow's Tsareena does something that some would describe as Sweet Scent, as it has a similar appearance and effect to how the move was used in its pre-evolved forms. PlayerKing95 has removed it because we don't have enough proof, despite the evidence pointing towards it. I, as well as another user, has reached out to him to discuss it. It has been more than a week now and he has ignored multiple messages to resolve this issue, and it is making me think that he will continue to ignore messages because it means the page can't be changed. Could I get some help with this? Thank you. --[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 14:48, 4 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I have given him a message. I currently have no strong opinions on this matter, generally we can say it's Sweet Scent because the animation is unlikely to change upon evolution. But I'm interested in what Playerking has to say.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 15:11, 4 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Thank you, looks like he finally responded to it. Based on his answer is it safe to put Sweet Scent back on, as there doesn't seem to be an argument against it.--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 16:14, 4 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Hello again. It's been a couple weeks and I was wondering what the status of Sweet Scent is. Thanks.--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 13:59, 30 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Random question ==<br />
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When I type just about anything in the search bar, the autocomplete suggestions always appear in the same order. For example, typing only "user:" always displays "User:Tiddlywinks", "User:Force Fire", "User:Raltseye", "User:SnorlaxMonster", etc. in that order. Do you have any idea what determines that order? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 04:12, 6 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Pretty sure the ordering is just random.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 04:18, 6 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
::If it was completely random, would it still put more active users closer to the top? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 04:35, 6 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::It's probably fixed, random but fixed. The listing probably wouldn't change regardless of how active a user is.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 04:51, 6 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::It could be fixed by the most visisted user pages. --[[User:Raltseye|<span style="color:#FF6464">R</span><span style="color:#11BB11">alts</span><span style="color:#6464FF">eye</span>]] [[User talk:Raltseye|prata med mej]] 11:00, 6 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Reason ==<br />
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Could you give a summary rather than only reverting a contribution without reason, that's irritating. {{unsigned|KyleRGiggs}}<br />
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:He's reverting you because this is the mandatory writing style for a recurring character in the anime and you're pointlessly changing it at [[Professor Burnet]]. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 04:45, 6 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Exactly. Your reasoning for removing it didn't even make sense, and if you actually read other anime character articles, other recurring characters also use the term "reappears".--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 04:51, 6 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::So DID both of you read the article CAREFULLY why "Since their marriage, Burnet has moved in with Kukui and Ash and '''has made regular appearances''' in the Sun & Moon series ever since." is present in the sentence? So why don't Professor Kukui being "reappear" for every episode? Regular appearancing should not be recurring? I don't get the sense. {{unsigned|KyleRGiggs}}<br />
::::Just because someone makes regular appearances, doesn't mean we can't use the word "reappear". Besides, the two don't appear that regularly, especially for Burnet who only appeared once in between SM071-80 (not counting the PokeProblem segment) and Kukui only physically appears four times in that 10 episode span. And sign your comments.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 05:18, 6 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::I did read that sentence. To be honest, that sentence needs to be reworded. As Force Fire said, it's not as regular as that sentence implies. If she did appear "regularly", then she'd actually be a main character, and then the need to list every episode she appears in is diminished. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 05:46, 6 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Random stuff ==<br />
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Since I last contacted you, I've come up with a few new things to ask every now and then, but they keep slipping my mind when I don't talk about them. Hence why I've decided to dedicate this section of the talk page for subjects that I come up with and need admin help for, which means that I may sometimes come back here when I come up with something new. But anyway, let's get started with the most recent subject I've come up with: the [[Looker]] Bureau post-game story from {{pkmn|X and Y}}. Since the [[Delta Episode]] and [[Episode RR]] have their own pages, shouldn't the Looker Bureau storyline also get its own article? I think it would deserve it.<br><br />
Oh, and speaking of new articles: has my suggestion of splitting the Kantonian Gym and Tide Song Hotel into their own location articles been moving forward? Has it received enough approval to actually be done some day? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 10:17, 6 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I did bring them (Kantonian Gym and Tide Song Hotel) up with the other staff members, didn't really come to a solid conclusion. For me, they both appear to have very little information text wise (from what is already there), and what we don't want are articles that are just one paragraph and a whole bunch of templates. I think it'd be good to create them in your userspace to see how the page will look.<br />
:The Looker saga could be made into it's own page. Make on in your userpage so the staff can decide if it's needed.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 05:22, 7 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
::I've created the page for the Kantonian Gym [[User:FinnishPokéFan92/Kantonian Gym|here]], and I also intend to start making the Tide Song Hotel and Looker Bureau pages as soon as I find the time for it. In the meantime, though, there's a couple of other things I would like to bring up.<br />
::Firstly, [[Talk:Serena (game)#Father? (revived)|this talk]] regarding the X and Y rival's father. Evidence heavily suggests that Calem/Serena's father is a Veteran Trainer who can be found in [[Snowbelle City]], but for the last bit of confirmation, we need someone who can read Japanese. Could you ask someone to help with that?<br />
::And secondly... Secondly... Well, this is ''exactly'' why I should come here to vent ideas out of my head more often. I've forgotten my second point. Embarrassing, I know, but I'll come back to it once I remember it.<br />
::--[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 07:22, 10 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Ah, I remember now! Some time ago, I created a category for {{cat|Legendary and Mythical Pokémon locations}}, my intention being to have it attached to the {{template|legendarylocations}} template. However, said template is protected, so I'd need help from a user like you to put it there. Could you do it? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 08:59, 10 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::I've brought the Kantonian Gym page to the others. There was talks of the Serena's father issue a while back, I think one of the staff members found in game text supporting it, though I asked again to be sure. Navigation templates only need the Navigation template category, the category you provided would go on the actual location pages.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 09:59, 11 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::Thanks, looking forward to the results.<br />
::::Yes, it's been proven that the gender pronoun used by the supposed father changes depending on the player character's gender, but we now also have links to two Japanese videos to see if this occurs in the Japanese version too, which could count as the final piece of evidence, and is why we need someone who can understand Japanese to confirm it.<br />
::::I mean like this: <nowiki><includeonly>[[Category:Legendary and Mythical Pokémon locations]]</includeonly></nowiki> When a category is attached to a template like this, it will only apply to the pages where said template is used at, not the template itself. That's what I would like you to do, if possible.<br />
::::--[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 10:56, 11 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::I've now finished the Tide Song Hotel page as well. You can find it [[User:FinnishPokéFan92/Tide Song Hotel|here]]. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 18:20, 11 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::Excuse the delay. The Looker bureau post game story can be made, with the title "Looker events" as that is what it's called in-game, according to another staff member. Haven't gotten much feedback regarding the other stuff that you brought up. I'll keep you updated regarding those.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 07:14, 15 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::Thanks for the update. Will do. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 08:45, 15 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::I haven't started working on the Looker evernts yet, but I haven't forgotten about them. In the meantime, though, there's an issue that has been bugging me for years now, which nobody has appparently done anything to fix yet. I'm talking about Generation VI models. Not only are we still missing most VS models from at least one set of the Generation VI core series games, we are also still missing a couple VS models: [[Archie]] and [[Zinnia]] are missing their VS models altogether (they've been using temporary ones for years now), and {{an|Brendan}} and {{an|May}} are missing their VS models with a [[Key Stone|Mega Bracelet]]. I've also wondered if the difference between the {{tc|Team Flare Grunt}}s who are striking a pose and those who aren't would warrant alternate VS models for them, but that's a lesser priority in my books.<br />
::::::::And, as for a more recent case of the same issue, we're still missing several US/UM VS models as well, including the {{tc|Master & Apprentice}} and {{tc|Sparring Partners}} VS models and [[Gladion]]'s VS model with a Z-Power Ring. Could you bring this up with people who could possibly fix these issues? I've tried to do it myself a couple times over the years, but it has never lead to anything. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 09:02, 20 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::Oh, almost forgot! [[Giovanni]]'s first VS model is a bit dark, and [[Professor Kukui]] is also missing his model with the Z-Power Ring. PS. Has the Serena/Calem father topic been solved? Can it be considered confirmed? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 11:18, 20 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::The VS sprites are something that is still ongoing, it just gets lower and lower on the priority list whenever something new comes around. It's something that will be done, "when" I can't really say for sure. Users are free to upload the models themselves, granted they get it from somewhere that isn't a fan site.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 11:54, 24 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::Figures. I'm just a guy who hates incompleteness, so these lingering cases of incompleteness tend to bug me a lot. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 12:17, 24 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::::For a while now already, I've been planning a massive edit project, where I go over '''every single''' page with a Stadium and Stadium 2 party template, and change the number of Poké Balls in the template(s) to 3 instead of 6 (since only three of the six Pokémon are always used per battle), as well as remove the word "Pokémon" from the game name, as it isn't that way in any other game party templates either. But that's why I've come here for you this time: in preparation for this project, could you edit {{template|Party/Single}} to include codes for Stadium and Stadium 2 in the game name section? And while we're on the topic of this template, do the Battle Chatelaines alone warrant a combined code for X, Y, OR, and AS, and the few version-exclusive Battle Tree Trainers from Generation VII codes for S/US and M/UM, respectively? PS. I hope you understood that last part. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 17:51, 3 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::::Thanks. I saw you just doing this, and I'm honestly really grateful for it, but in case you didn't know, when we refer to "Pokémon Stadium", the link should go to "[[Pokémon Stadium (English)]]", instead of just "[[Pokémon Stadium]]". --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 07:37, 5 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::::Never mind. You noticed that yourself. Sorry. XP --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 07:38, 5 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
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{{indent}}Added Stadium/2 to the template. As for changing the Poké Ball number, I'm iffy about it. I get what you're saying, but they still have six possible Pokémon. As for the last request, I assume you mean for the party template?, if so, they're already coded in.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 07:40, 5 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Yeah. Personally, I'm inclined to keep the six Poké Balls too, but, as you can see {{DL|Professor Kukui|Battle Royal Dome|here}}, for example, some user(s) apparently think that the number of shown Poké Balls should be equal to the maximum number of Pokémon that can be used from said selection of Pokémon at a time. Hence why most [[Pokémon World Tournament|PWT]] teams have six Balls, since all six Pokémon are used if the [[Triple Battle]] format is in used. Then there's also the case where the pool of possible Pokémon is greater than six, but I can understand that one.<br />
:As for the codes, I meant as in a code of "XYORAS" turning out as "X, Y, Omega Ruby, and Alpha Sapphire", and codes "SUS" and "MUM" turning out as "Sun and Ultra Sun" and "Moon and Ultra Moon", respectively. However, as I said, the former would only apply to the four {{tc|Battle Chatelaine}}s, while the latter ones would only apply for the few [[Battle Tree]] Special Trainers who are version-exclusive, so I wondered if that's a good enough reason for those codes to be created. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 09:26, 5 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::For the Kukui article, I think the line "Master Rank challenge of the Battle Royal, using three of the following Pokémon" will suffice. If they're confused, then they are just flat out not reading the article. As for the stadium articles, I think a similar line could work.<br />
::Ah I see, I've added the code for those.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 09:45, 5 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Thanks a ton! Now there's nothing stopping me from starting my grand edit project! And it's going to be even easier I expected, thanks to you!<br />
:::Nice work... Except that you made a small typo. You accidentally wrote "SUM" instead of "MUM" for "Moon and Ultra Moon". --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 11:18, 5 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::Another small typo found. The link for Stadium 2 leads just to "Pokémon Stadium". You forgot the "2" from the end. Whoops...<br />
::::Also, another unrelated thing: in Pokémon Colosseum, the player character starts the game off with a number of healing items in their Bag. Does this qualify as a method of acquiring these items for their respective articles? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 16:52, 5 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::Fixed. As for the items, I'd say those count.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 07:02, 6 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::I think we need a link template to make the Alola game links easier to create, as writing "<nowiki>[[Pokémon Sun and Moon|Pokémon Sun, Moon]], [[Pokémon Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon|Ultra Sun, and Ultra Moon]]</nowiki>" for a link version of "Pokémon Sun, Moon, Ultra Sun, and Ultra Moon" again and again can get tiresome, plus it eats up a lot of unnecessary space. I'd do it myself, but I'm not sure how, so I've come to ask for your help again. Can you do it, or at least ask someone else to do it? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 09:30, 17 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::Took a while to remember what the template was, but [[Template:Game4]] exists, though I edited it to add USUM. Typing the code <nowiki>{{game4|Sun|Moon|Sun|Moon}}</nowiki> should give you this: {{game4|Sun|Moon|Sun|Moon}}.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 11:54, 19 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::Thank you! Also, another issue regarding link templates: when adding a link to a Pokémon's alternate form, it's usually written as <nowiki>{{DL|List of Pokémon with form differences|<Pokémon>|<Form name>}}</nowiki>, which, like the previous thing you fixed, is a bit lengthy, especially if done repeatedly. So I've been thinking about the creation of a link template to fix the issue, going something like this: <nowiki>{{form|<Pokémon>|<Form name>}}</nowiki>, which would lead to the correct section of [[List of Pokémon with form differences]], based on the contents of the second slot (the one with <Pokémon> in my example here). Do you think this could/should be made? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 13:58, 19 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::Also, I just noticed: your edit on {{template|game4}} was a bit flawed. The "Sun and Moon" part of the link includes the word "Versions", even though it's not supposed to. I saw you fixed this issue regarding the "Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon" part of the link, but it seems you still missed something. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 06:04, 21 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::Did you miss my above messages? Or have you just been too busy to answer yet? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 08:55, 26 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::I purposely left the "versions" in the first link as I wasn't confident whether adding a switch would mess the template up and mess up other pages that are using the template, so I didn't risk it. I'll bring up to idea for a "form template" to the other staff members, though I think it's a fine idea.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 12:45, 26 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::::1) Oh. I see. Well, I've already used the template on a couple pages, so now what? 2) Thank you. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 13:32, 26 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::::Just leave the ones you've added. I'll tweak the template in a userspace at some point. As for the form template, [[User:Abcboy/Form|Abcboy]] has already made a template in his userpage, that'll be under consideration.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 13:03, 27 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
{{indent}}Thank you. Also, whoa. It appears that this template idea wasn't as new as I thought. Let's hope it'll finally get mainspaced some day. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 14:04, 27 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Thanks for helping me out with {{user|EternalDragonX}}. He also left a reply to your response already, just in case you haven't noticed yet. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 17:45, 2 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::He still doesn't believe either of us. Could you do something about it? And, if possible, could you continue the talk with him on his page instead of mine? PS. His refusal to use big capital letters in talk pages irks me. I know there's technically nothing wrong with it, but if you see fit to notify him about it too, then please do. If you don't, I won't hold it against you. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 16:18, 3 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::A few days ago, he started arguing with me about [[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92#viridian gym|another subject (s)]]. Please help me. I'm seriously growing tired of this. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 18:39, 6 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::I'll leave a message on their talk page.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 03:01, 7 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::Thank you. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:55, 7 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Undoing changes ==<br />
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Please, don't revert changes as I add information that a [[Focus Sash]] can be stolen from [[Iris]]' {{p|Haxorus}} during all the battles. I don't want to cause an edit war, but I placed the information in the correct row ({{gameabbrev5|B2W2}}). [[User:TheICTLiker4|TheICTLiker4]] ([[User talk:TheICTLiker4|talk]]) 06:56, 12 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:And as Finnish said, you don't permanently keep the item. It doesn't count.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 07:14, 12 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Status ==<br />
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What does "status" mean when used to describe Bulbapedia users? Like, how do we know the difference between "hiatus" and "inactive"? How long of a break counts as a hiatus? What does "X" mean? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 01:31, 24 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:If someone is on "hiatus", that means they are away for some time but will return eventually, how long the hiatus is differs between staff members. "Inactive" is detailed {{bp|Inactive Staff|here}}. X denotes someone of high authority, they may not be very active but they are still very important staff members.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 11:54, 24 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
::If someone says he/she/it is on hiatus and doesn't come back, then how long does it usually take for other people to change that person's status to "inactive"? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 18:18, 24 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::That decision is up to the Editor in Chief.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 04:34, 25 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::Okay thanks. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 00:07, 26 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Possible inappropriate name ==<br />
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Someone under {{user|RAEVEisdumb}} was created after someone called {{user|RAEVE}} was just created. Should it be flagged? '''Ice''' [[User talk:The IceCream|Cream]] 19:43, 24 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I've blocked the former but left the latter unblocked. I ''could'' block them both since they both share the same IP, but since RAEVE hasn't done anything yet, I'll leave them unblocked unless they become a problem.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 04:34, 25 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== PardescanSlowbro again ==<br />
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I have tried to offer [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2840364&oldid=2826236 constructive criticism] on PardescanSlowbro's spelling of "compliment" in [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Tyson_%28Hoenn%29&type=revision&diff=2840264&oldid=2834631 this edit], but once again, he responded with paranoia, a refusal to cooperate, and accusations of edit-stalking ([https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2840597&oldid=2840364] [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2840645&oldid=2840640] [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2840648&oldid=2840647] [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2840661&oldid=2840649]). In the last diff, he even had the gall to tell me I shouldn't be contacting anyone if that's how I'm going to talk to people. This is in spite of me [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2840647&oldid=2840645 admitting that my original message unintentionally did not come across as constructive and apologizing for that]. I cannot even talk about the most basic constructive criticism with this guy, and it is so frustrating. I was actually hoping I could have a more in-depth discussion about his writing style in regards to his recent edits, but given that he's always reacting like this in some form or fashion, I cannot muster the courage to talk to him, no matter what the subject is. I can't even properly talk to him about the minor stuff (silly, I know, but I can't even talk to him about the major stuff in the first place). I talk to other users the same way I'm talking to him, yet he's always the one who responds with hostility and vitriol. I'm really not trying to be malicious towards him or anything like that. Can you please comment on this? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 08:59, 29 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Grammarfreak at it again ==<br />
I know, you're very busy. But it seems that Grammarfreak are trying everything to post his/her claim are right. While everyone is wrong. Especially, when he illegally created it voice actress article without admin permission. Especially for trying to make it sounds he taken command of everything. If you can, could you please ban him/her. I tired of his aggression and persistent changing the sentences to be great. Thank you! [[User:Singaporean|Singaporean]] ([[User talk:Singaporean|talk]]) 02:57, 5 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
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:[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ASingaporean&type=revision&diff=2843736&oldid=2839035 I already told you], I didn't know you already had a userspace article for [[Sumire Morohoshi]] in the works, and I'm sorry about that! That aside, how is that "illegal"? I admitted it was a mistake caused by a lazy eye. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 03:18, 5 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:: You know, you create with one article after another without admin permission is already officially illegal. That is also included disrespectful to me after all the hard work, I have done and learns to make a better article. But it seems that, you had a history of pattern aggressive toward everybody. I wasn't surprised, your primary target now is me. It wasn't take every long in a next few day. You will ditch my all my userspace edited and try to create one to waste more page to fill in the empty to draw attention to everyone. Remind you again, this is not your playground of editing. [[User:Singaporean|Singaporean]] ([[User talk:Singaporean|talk]]) 03:28, 5 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::A while back, I [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:Tiddlywinks#Creating_Japanese_voice_actor_articles asked] {{U|Tiddlywinks}} about the process of creating VA articles, and they directed me to [[Bulbapedia:Project VA]] without mentioning anything else. The main project page ''never'', ''EVER'' said anything about having to consult with the admins first before the creation of an individual article, and trust me, I read through that thing thoroughly. I've been at this since last month, and no one has given me any warnings or blocked me for creating so many VA articles during that time. This is in comparison to [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:GrammarFreak01/Archive_1#Creating_pages the warning I got] from Tiddlywinks hours after I created the [[Ash's Pikachu (M20)]] article (which was what motivated me to ask Tiddlywinks about the VA articles in the first place). Because of all that, I took it that my actions were already cleared by Tiddlywinks and I didn't even have to worry about asking the admins any further.<br />
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:::If it was supposed to be common sense for me to just alert the admins about the creation of any kind of article beforehand, then I do apologize for that. I was simply following everything that was laid out for me at [[Bulbapedia:Project VA]], with the misconception that Tiddlywinks was alright with everything simply because I contacted him only once before my article creation spree. And ''trust me'', I am now reviewing all of the other userspace articles you've got so I will know which VAs you are already working on. I'm so sorry if you felt cheated and that your hard work on the Morohoshi userspace article was wasted because of me. I swear, I was not aware of that userspace article, and that is not going to happen again, I promise. Especially now that you've got your own eye on me and my conduct. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 03:48, 5 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::Regardless of your apologize to me or not. The action will be leave to [[User:Force Fire|Force Fire]] to dealt with. Even though of the risk for me being banned one more time again. I also satisfied. [[User:Singaporean|Singaporean]] ([[User talk:Singaporean|talk]]) 03:57, 5 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::I'm well aware that it's all up to Force Fire, given the severity of your complaints against me. I'm just trying to explain what you would call my more egregious actions. I at least have that right to do so, don't I? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 03:59, 5 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
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GrammarFreak already clarified that he didn't see your userpage, Singaporean. No need to overreact the way you did. He apologized, move on. Anyone can create a VA article, granted that it fits the notability criteria. Users can make it on the mainspace, '''only if''' they are capable of making it up to Bulbapedia standards upon making the article (to which I feel GrammarFreak did). And don't take that as an invitation to create VA article on the mainspace, Singaporean.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 07:18, 5 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:If you say so, then I will go ahead and create all my remaining work directly without the need of my userspace. Thanks. [[User:Singaporean|Singaporean]] ([[User talk:Singaporean|talk]]) 12:30, 5 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::No. I '''did not''' say you can make them in the mainspace. I literally said it in my response. The ones you made on your userspace still needs to be approved. And that is '''NOT''' how you move userpages to the mainspace.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 12:59, 5 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::My apologized for my rush work. I didn't know about it. It is already almost a year and I didn't heard anything about you and the other approved my work to main article is just really frustrating. I do hope, you can give me an answer after a few days later. Thank you! [[User:Singaporean|Singaporean]] ([[User talk:Singaporean|talk]]) 13:05, 5 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== A strange user talk page ==<br />
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Hello and sorry if I'm bothering you, but I started to wonder, if such content as [[User talk:CarterLumpkins|this]] is OK to have on one's user talk page. This doesn't seem to aggressively promote some service, thought it does have a weblink. However, the topic is so NOT Pokémon... is this allowed? Is this evidence of a spammer? The user page was created three minutes before the talk page. Thank you! [[User:Kikugi|Kikugi]] ([[User talk:Kikugi|talk]]) 12:33, 6 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Dealt with. Those are usually spambots.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 12:55, 6 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Search bar problems ==<br />
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I just started having a problem with the search bar at the left of my screen. Every time I type something in, it won't show me a list of options, and every time I try to look up a list of pages containing a certain word(s), it won't show the lists. Instead, there's a message that reads, "An error has occurred while searching: We could not complete your search due to a temporary problem. Please try again later." I definitely know I'm not misspelling anything. What's going on with that? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 04:15, 9 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Staff are aware of the issue and will try to get to the bottom of it asap.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 05:01, 9 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Okay. That's good to know. Thanks for the heads-up. :) [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 05:06, 9 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Internal error ==<br />
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Occasionally, since about last week, I've been getting these "Internal error" messages every time I try to submit an edit. I manage to get through it, but the frequency of these messages is starting to increase and I don't know what's going on. This is an example of the "Internal error" message I tend to get.<br />
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[8e5e0cf8d713375f0b2bb8b3] 2018-09-17 04:55:29: Fatal exception of type "Error"<br />
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Would you mind getting to the bottom of this? Thank you. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 04:57, 17 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
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:I'm still getting these messages with intensifying frequency. Here's the latest one:<br />
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[d52bf67181c53700b65c1f44] 2018-09-18 04:52:01: Fatal exception of type "Error"<br />
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:[[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 04:53, 18 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Staff are aware of the issues and are looking into it.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 05:58, 18 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Thank you. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 19:19, 18 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
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::::I'm not sure what's being done to rectify this problem, nor do I presume to know, but for the record, I'm still having these problems. Here's the latest one I got:<br />
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[39026dee922ac834907c8f6e] 2018-09-20 07:23:46: Fatal exception of type "Error"<br />
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::::[[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 07:25, 20 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
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:::::My apologies, but this problem is still happening for me. Is the staff still investigating the issue? Or did they think they found a solution and implemented it already? Not that I doubt anyone's effectiveness in this matter. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 23:43, 12 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::Still haven't heard back on whether the problem was fixed or not, but I'll ping the higher ups about the issue.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 04:31, 13 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::Okay, thanks. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 04:45, 13 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Transfer-only moves and ability changes ==<br />
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Can we add a section to every Pokemon page that lists all the moves the Pokemon can know only if it originated in an earlier generation (move tutors, old TMs, etc.)? Cross-checking multiple pages for this information is annoying. Second, can we change the Pokemon infobox template to make pages like {{p|Pelipper}} clear that Pelipper can't have drizzle in Generations 3-6? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 18:06, 24 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Zlblosser18 ==<br />
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A little heads-up, it looks like in spite of [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AZlblosser18&type=revision&diff=2853997&oldid=2853990 your advice], Zlblosser18 is still [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Charmander_%28Pok%C3%A9mon%29&type=revision&diff=2855104&oldid=2855092 removing templates]. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 20:22, 30 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
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:It also seems like they're disregarding [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Zlblosser18&diff=prev&oldid=2855095 my advice] that titles like [[Pokémon Origins]] and [[Pokémon Generations]] are not traditionally italicized here. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 20:25, 30 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Looks like TiddlyWinks has given them a final warning. --[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 04:33, 1 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Seems like it. I'll withdraw the complaint, then. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 05:02, 1 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== floor order cont ==<br />
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im confused, youre saying the ordering will be RBY>GSC>FRLG>HGSS regardless of floor order? so do you mean list all rby items before gsc or put them together if there are two items on the same floor? yes, i am using common sense by not putting an item deep in the dungeon first, but what if said deep item were to be on one of the earlier floors if not the earliest? then floor order dictates i would have to list said item before many of the other items i pass by before i even get to it. thats why floor order is bad. i know were not a walkthrough, but we have to list the items in one way or another, and like you said, it should make sense atleast right? I understand that it is not a "high" priority. but if i can list in an order that makes sense, why not? is floor order really a higher priority? again im trying to say that floor order is bad. --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 12:58, 4 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Yes, the game order will still be the same regardless of the template going by floor order. If an items exist in more than one set of games and is in the same location, the games get put together.<br />
:Just so we're on the same page here, when you say "deep" you mean tucked in the furthest part of the first floor, right? Because there's no way the place I just described could be the first thing you come across. If you mean if the player traverses from the opposite end (say Victory Road, Pokemon League entrance to Route 22 entrance), then that's not really important. The location ordering should be from the player's first run through of the area (so Route 22 to Pokemon League).<br />
:Sorting by floor order helps users see what items are available at a certain floor in one grouping. It'd actually be ''more'' confusing if the listing were to alternate between "Floor 1" and "Floor 2", especially if there's suddenly a "Basement floor" in between them.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 14:43, 4 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::may i suggest instead of RBY>GSC>FRLG>HGSS, that it be RBY>FRLG>GSC>HGSS? because rby frlg are basically the same games and a lot of the time they will have items that are common to all of them, but also a lot of the time frlg will have some new items, and shoving gsc items in between would not only look weird, but confusing.<br />
::yes i mean for example tucked away in a place on the first floor that also serves as the back exit. therefore in a regular playthrough, most players would pick up said item last, since you run by every other item before it. victory road is a perfect example of what im talking about. of course i wouldnt list the items as if they were going from indigo plateau to route 22. that makes no sense. if you look at the list: https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Victory_Road_(Kanto)#Items i list guard spec ultra ball and full restore on floor 2 after overheat on floor 3. why? because those 3 items are grouped in an area in floor 2 that can only be accessible after passing through the entirety of floor 3; the area in this case being the exit. so in my head, this ordering makes perfect sense. blindly following floor order would mean i would list these items before the max revive, which again i dont think makes much sense since we talked about how they literally cant be come acrossed before the floor 3 items. --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 18:11, 4 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Any unpredictable order is bad. A reasonable person would generally expect to see everything for a floor together. If I see several items that start with something like 1F, 2F, 1F, 3F, 5F (or whatever), it just looks messy to me. Nothing that extreme may occur in the games, but that's what your logic would demand. (And less extreme examples are still messy IMO.)<br />
:::It's not exactly hard to look back to the "end" of a floor if there were items you just couldn't get to when you passed through the first part (if floors are grouped). But if floors aren't grouped, then if I see several items starting with "2F" and then that turns into "3F", I'm gonna think those were all the items on 2F in the list, and that can be very confusing. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 00:34, 5 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::altho i still believe that 1F, 2F, 1F, 3F, 5F (or whatever) would be better if it made sense that you'd get the items that way, i have argued my point to the fullest and i can respect it if you disagree. however, still waiting on you force fire to answer my question about listing the items in region order rather than game order. aka kanto>johto>hoenn etc. over rby>gsc>frlg etc. --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 00:57, 5 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::Ordering the games by RBY>FRLG>GSC>HGSS is fine, some (or a majority of) articles are like this.<br />
:::::So we are talking about the same thing, that brings up the question of why you are concerned about having to place an item that is deep in a dungeon as the first item. As I said, the order should be listed on the players first run through of the area. You don't need to worry about those that'll traverse the opposite way.<br />
:::::As for items that can only be accessed via another floor, group those under all the other Floor 2 items and say in the descriptor that it requires traversing through Floor 3. Putting those items below Floor 3 makes it a touch confusing, and also a bit walkthrough-ish. I guess it's just me being condescending, but players should be able figure that stuff (having to traverse through floor 3 to get to some floor 2 items) for themselves. And ass TiddlyWinks said, listing the items by floor looks much more cleaner and easier on the eyes.<br />
:::::Also, I saw and checked that you changed the template to be one big listing rather than separate listings. Maybe that should've been discussed first before making the edit. --[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 04:47, 5 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::i am concerned about having to place an item that is deep as the first item because if for example it was one of, if not the only, items on the first accessible floor (say floor 1), but not accessible unless you traverse one of the other floors (say floor 2), then we gotta list it first even tho you probably get the other items on floor 2 before it. you already answered this in your 3rd paragraph. like i said to tiddlywinks if u guys feel like floor order is cleaner then fine. i also like your solution of putting in the descriptor that it requires traversing through floor 3. i think ill do that. --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 14:33, 5 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::about putting in the descriptor that obtaining an item requires traversing another floor.. would you just list that as a sentence at the end? or would you like put it in an asterisk at the end? --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 15:24, 5 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::Examples of these sorts of explanations/directions can be seen on pages like [[Frost Cavern]], [[Victory Road (Kalos)]], and [[Haina Desert]]. The descriptions should be easily readable, which tooltips are not (mobile users cannot read them at all AFAIK). The only reason to consider a tooltip would be if the detail is exceptionally long. (Because a very long description is, itself, also not the most readable thing.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:24, 6 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Satomi Kōrogi ==<br />
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I need help moving the [[Satomi Kōrogi]] article. The romanization seems to prefer using Satomi K'''oo'''rogi instead but I am unable to move the article because of a redirect interfering. Thank you. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 22:33, 6 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Moved.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 03:01, 7 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Thanks! :D [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 03:18, 7 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Transfer-only moves and ability changes ==<br />
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Can we add a section to every Pokemon page that lists all the moves the Pokemon can know only if it originated in an earlier generation (move tutors, old TMs, etc.)? Cross-checking multiple pages for this information is annoying. Second, can we change the Pokemon infobox template to make pages like {{p|Pelipper}} clear that Pelipper can't have drizzle in Generations 3-6? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 20:34, 10 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I personally see no need in listing transferable moves, it's common sense. Of course a Pokémon that only knows X move in Gen III is going to know it if you transfer it to a Gen vII game. And it's really not much of a nuisance. Want a to know a Pokémon's moveset from a specific generation? go to the separate learnlists. Want a specific move? go to the specific move article. It's not ''that'' annoying.<br />
:The infobox templates is currently in discussions of an update. The update will accommodate having more abilities listed. Have patience.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 07:05, 11 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::The whole purpose of learnset sections was to put every move that a Pokemon can know in one place, right? If the learnset sections are not doing that, what other purpose do they have? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 19:47, 12 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::It's to list moves a Pokémon can learn in the '''current''' generation. Transferring moves isn't exactly "learning a move by level up or breeding in Generation VII". If a Pokémon can only learn a move in a previous generation, go to that generation's learnset or the move's article. You're only clicking one link, not 500. It's not as mundane as you're making it out to be.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 04:29, 13 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::It appears to me you're just saying how another question is easy to answer.<br />
::::If you're seriously interested in this (not just stalling), let me suggest (with best intentions) to just try to answer "What moves can Pikachu '''''know''''' in a copy of, say, USUM?" by browsing Bulbapedia. I currently need more than 5 minutes, and I would consider this ''the'' central use case, and probably the most important question for competitive play. (It's not even easy to be confident the resulting list was exhaustive, so if you'd like, you may even post your list here, and let me see if I have any more.) [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 09:46, 13 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::Saying "what can Pikachu learn in USUM" is literally the same as saying "what can Pikachu learn in Gen VII". Not Gen II. Not Gen IV. Saying a specific game means you're looking for a learnset from a specific generation. And it certainly does not take "more than 5 minutes" to find what you want. If you know what you're looking for, you have a Pokémon and move/generation in mind, it should only take you one minute top. A few clicks. You're not going to be scouring the entire site just to look for one move.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 11:43, 13 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::Neither of these question were asked, you just continue to answer them.<br />
::::::Pikachu can ''know'' moves in USUM that it cannot ''learn'' in USUM, {{m|Mega Kick}}, for example. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 12:10, 13 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::It's called a learnlist for a reason, moves a Pokémon can learn in a game or generation. Of course it'll know a move from a previous generation if you transfer it to a current game, that does not need to be spelled out. No one is going to think that it won't know the move once they transfer the Pokémon. If users want to know what moves it can learn previously, they can browse the site.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 12:24, 13 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
{{indent}}I'm not sure you understand me/us (or even try to, really). So, just for me to get this clear: Are you saying that, in your opinion, a) the question "What moves can <species> '''''know''''' in <game/generation>?" is not relevant, not worthwhile for Bulbapedia to easily provide an answer to, and that b) species pages should only provide moves a Pokémon can ''learn'' in the current generation? [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 14:14, 13 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:It's not hard to find what you're looking for, all you're doing is clicking on one link, totaling up to a few seconds. If you had to go through page after page, I can get why it'd be annoying or hard. But it's not.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 14:39, 13 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::I'm beginning to feel confident you're just stalling. I'm asking questions, I don't get answers. <br />
::I'll just continue trying to keep this simple: Please list all moves Pikachu can know (in a USUM game). If it's not hard, I'd be glad to hear that it's easily possible using Bulbapedia (and preferably also how). Also (and in particular if you're unable or unwilling to list all of Pikachu's moves), please answer the two questions I just asked, a) and b). [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 15:02, 13 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Bulbapedia is not a strategy guide. Comp is not our focus.<br />
:::You're highlighting comp as your reason for a promoting "moves a [species] can know" angle. But there's a bunch of comp stuff we're never going to do. We're not doing tier lists. We're not gonna tell you what "good" movesets are. Comp is no reason that we would "have" to accomodate anything.<br />
:::That's not to say we're thoroughly hostile to a list of "legacy" moves.<br />
:::But kind of like ForceFire has said, learnlists ARE for what a Pokemon can learn ''within'' a generation. It doesn't ''strictly'' make sense to include "legacy" moves; that's a concern that comes from a pretty specific focus like comp/challenges.<br />
:::Yes, it would be somewhat easier if we had a list of legacy moves. But (to repeat myself) that's not necessarily our focus and you ''can'' figure the information out if you really need to.<br />
:::(And to repeat myself once more, we're not hostile to a legacy move list. I just can't tell you if/when it might happen at the moment.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 15:39, 13 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::Thanks, Tiddlywinks.<br />
::::I may be highlighting comp as the use case, and/but I know it's not our focus, I don't do so because I want to promote comp or anything. What I'm basically trying to do is rephrase Sumwun's question of what use case species (or learnset) pages currently try to serve; basically, why are they there, what are they supposed to easily provide an answer to:<br />
::::"What move can <species> ''learn'' in <game/generation>?" may be equally sensible/important, but if the pages were focused (solely/primarily) on that, there would be no need to have an "By events" subsection (to a lesser extent, probably not even "By breeding"), and I think we can all agree that this information is valuable/sensible. What I'm thinking, and what I believe Sumwun thinks, is that a "By transfer from a prior generation" subsection is equally valuable/sensible.<br />
::::Anyway, I know how that's a hassle to create or even design, and I'm not forcing it. But I'd like to stress that Sumwun's suggestion, in my opinion, is far from focusing on some weird, minor edge case, and is providing benefit. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 16:17, 13 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::"Please list Pikachu's moves in USUM". Just go to its page. It's right ''there''. Want to know it's previous moves, go click on ''one'' link. Easy. And I'm answering sumwun's reasoning of "cross checking multiple pages is annoying", since he's the one that stated this conversation. All you're trying to do is justify sumwun's laziness.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 16:49, 13 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::Right now, I can't just click one link. Depending on how old a Pokemon is, I may need to click 1-6 links, load 1-6 learnset pages, and scan 2-25 sections. I would consider reducing this to 0 clicks and 1 section a big and worthwhile improvement. If this kind of laziness is unjustified, why do we have any learnset pages at all? We might as well be saying, "Want to know whether <Pokemon> can learn <move>? Load ''one'' move article and do ''one'' ctrl f. Easy." <br />
::::::By the way, I would also like to know the answers to Nescientist's 2 questions. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 22:05, 13 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::That's an exaggeration. If you know what you're looking for, it'll only taking you one-two clicks. You can't be searching for what move a Pokemon can learn previously without a set goal. You're playing Ultra Sun, but you want to know what it can learn in '''Diamond''' version. Diamond is the key word which equates to '''Gen IV'''. So you're already looking for its Gen IV learnset. Go to its page and click on Gen IV. Done.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 11:54, 14 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::I have moved this discussion to [[Bulbapedia talk:Project Pokédex/Structure#Adding moves available only by transfer from an earlier generation|a more public place]], so others have an easier opportunity to chime in (and so that possibly, ForceFire doesn't receive as much email notifications about messages not directed to them directly).<br />
::::::::ForceFire, the question "What moves can Pikachu know in USUM?" does not include "Diamond", and [[Pikachu (Pokémon)]] does not mention Mega Kick. I have detailed some more about what pages you'd need to traverse where I have continued the discussion I'm interested in.<br />
::::::::Tiddlywinks, I have addressed some of your comments there, and would appreciate to get to know your opinions. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 12:18, 14 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::Pikachu cannot '''learn''' Mega Kick in USUM (hence why it's not there at first glance), but it can know it if you transfer it from another game (which is common sense, of course it's going to know Mega Kick if you transfer it, the game isn't going to force it to forget the move).<br />
:::::::::I just gave an example of how it only take one-two clicks to find what you're looking for. And you misinterpreted my example. If you're thinking of a certain game, you're automatically thinking of a certain generation. Go to the page and click on that specific generation.<br />
:::::::::You can convince me to change my mind, but so far, "it's too hard, annoying, and boring to sift through a few pages" is not convincing enough to change my mind.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 12:28, 14 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::I don't understand. Please name the page(s) I need to answer "What moves can Pikachu '''''KNOW''''' in USUM?". [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 12:31, 14 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
{{indent}}When you say "know" you're saying what it can learn via other means, and that includes transfer. The pages are the previous gen learnset pages, those are the moves Pikachu can know in USUM if you were to transfer it to USUM. Honestly...--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 12:35, 14 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:And those are six, plus Pikachus page, that's seven. (I even mentioned other difficulties at the other page.) It's not easy, it's hard. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 12:37, 14 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::If you have a game in mind, you have a generation in mind. You mentioned Mega Kick, Pikachu can only learn it in Gen I, III, and VI. So you're '''ONLY''' going to click '''one''' of those link, not the other links. Why would you. You already have the generation you need, you don't need to click on the others. If someone is unsure of the generation, they would look through the move article and ctrl+f "Pikachu".<br />
::It's like if I wanted to watch a certain Johto league episode, but I don't know which number it is. I'm not going to watch the entirety of the XY series, I'm going to look through the Johto arc.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 12:44, 14 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::You're exactly right there, but you're answering "Can Pikachu know Mega Kick in USUM?", not "What moves can Pikachu know in USUM?". I have no prior knowledge that Mega Kick is a possible solution. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 12:47, 14 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::If you don't have a move in mind, then you have a previous generation in mind (to transfer from). If you have neither in mind, then you're not really looking for "what move can Pikachu know in USUM".--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 12:51, 14 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::I'm positive that I have neither in mind, and that I am looking for "what moves can Pikachu know in USUM". [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 13:22, 14 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::Then you're not transferring then. The only other viable option of wanting to know what moves Pikachu can ''know'' is events, since everything else it learns, and events are already listed. <br />
::::::If you're transferring Pokémon, you already have either a generation or move in mind. You're either thinking "I want to transfer Pikachu from <game>, but am not sure what it can learn in that game", which you then click on the '''appropriate''' generation moveset. Or you're thinking "I know Pikachu can learn <move> in a previous generation, but I don't know what game", which you then go to the move page and ctrl+f PIkachu.<br />
::::::If you're not thinking of neither of those, then you aren't looking to transfer Pokémon.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 13:46, 14 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::I'm not thinking of a specific generation. I want to know the answer to "What moves can Pikachu know in USUM".<br />
:::::::I can post some ''more special'' questions that require the same page traversion, such as "Can Pikachu know a sleep-inducing move?" (i.e., can I get a Pikachu on my copy of USUM with a sleep-inducing move, by whatever means?"), or "What is the most powerful move Magikarp may know in USUM?" (i.e., what's the maximum base power for any move a Magikarp may know in USUM, by whatever means).<br />
:::::::These should be questions you may understand better. Please try to answer them. (If you do, you will find out that you won't find the answers at the species pages alone.) [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 15:50, 14 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::If we are expected to be able to go to the move page and ctrl f the Pokemon's name for transfer-only moves, why are we not expected to do that for all moves? Why do we have full lists of level up moves and TM moves for each Pokemon? <br />
::::::::By the way, another example of a question that would become a lot easier is, "What are all the ways I can get a Golem that knows a physical attack that is strong against psychic?" [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 22:20, 14 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
{{indent}}Nescientist... what do you mean by "know"? Because a Pokémon can "know" a move via transfer or events. If you have neither a generation or move in mind, then you are '''''not''''' transferring. You are just blindly going through pages for no reason. If you're question ends so vaguely at "What moves can Pikachu know in USUM", then I don't know what you're looking for because you're not explaining the method. It's either "What can Pikachu know in USUM '''via transfer'''" or "What can Pikachu know in USUM '''via events'''". If you're talking about transfers, then I've already answered that many times.<br />
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Wanting to know what "sleep inducing moves" or "highest possible power" is competitive fluff. We are not a strategy guide. Casual gamers aren't going to care about that stuff. A casual gamer is going to want to know what moves their Pokemon can know in the game they have in their hands without outside influence (i.e. transfer or events). They're not going to care about sleep inducing move or highest based power. Not everyone is a competitive player.<br />
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Sumwun, don't be difficult. I don't even know what you're talking about. If you have a '''''move''''' in mind, go to the move page and ctrl+f. If you have a '''''game''''' in mind, go to the appropriate learnset page. You are '''''not''''' going to be looking through the learnsets to look for a single move. No one is going to do that. '''''No one''''' is going to blindly look through six learnsets looking for just one move, when they can just go to the move article itself. It's not that hard. I don't think you understand what the different kinds templates are for, and assuming they're all do the same thing.<br />
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You're Golem question, like Nescientist's "sleep inducing" question is competitive fluff. Again, we are not a strategy guide. And your question was '''even more vague'''. What is the method you seek? level up? breeding? TM? what? Be more specific in your searches. I like to think users are browsing the site fully aware of what they are looking for, not exact but an idea of what they are looking for. By the sounds of it, you're browsing the site without a single thing in mind. It stops at "What can Golem learn/know" rather than specifying "What can Golem learn/know via this specific method".--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 04:31, 15 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I already rephrased what it means when I do not specify: it means "by whatever means", which means at all, by level-up or events or transfer or ''anything'' else. Moves a Pokémon may know in USUM. I'm explicitly ''not'' saying "by transfer only" (or anything else), I don't know why you insist I need to say that; because that is not what I'm asking.<br />
:Anyway, you seem to have understood that my specific questions (and Sumwun's) are hard to answer, not easy. (Which is good, because that's why I mentioned them; my original question is ''more general''.)<br />
:I would object to your take that it's only competitive fluff (and I did so [[Bulbapedia talk:Project Pokédex/Structure#Adding moves available only by transfer from an earlier generation|here]]). What do you think casual gamers would be looking for? If you're excluding what you call "competitive fluff", do you think they would need "By breeding"? (If so, why?) [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 16:33, 15 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::If nobody goes through learnset pages for moves, what do people use them for? <br />
::Transfer-only moves are not competitive fluff or strategy guides. They are real Pokemon information that is true even when nobody is competitive battling and is not at all fan-made, but they simply happen to be more useful to competitive battlers. If this kind of information isn't allowed on Bulbapedia, why do we have a page called "World Championships", which is pretty much the definition of competitive battling? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 03:10, 16 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Nescientist: This discussion is about transfer moves, so I assume you're talking about and looking for transfer moves. If you're looking for "anything at all", then you're not looking for anything specific so the '''bare minimum''' is already on the species article, you do not need to click on anything else. Everything it can know at '''bare minimum''' is ''right there''.<br />
:::I didn't even answer both of your questions. I basically said that they are irrelevant because we are not a strategy guide. We're not going to say "This Pokemon can know this move which is X power" because that is competitive fluff and strategy guide-ish. No casual gamer is going to think that specifically.<br />
:::I just said what casual gamers are looking for "'''things their Pokemon can learn normally within the game they have in their hands, without outside influence like transfers and events'''". This includes, level up moves, TMs, and such. Breeding is game mechanic and should be listed, I don't regard it as competitive fluff.<br />
:::Sumwun: I don't think you understand how these things work. People look through the learnsets to look for moves '''''from a specific game or generation'''''. They are looking for the '''entire moveset''', not just one move. '''The entire moveset'''. If you're looking for one move, go to the move article. Looking for a moveset for a specific game, look through the learnset. It's not that hard to understand.<br />
:::"World Championships" is an article detailing an event. It's not detailing strategies. It's not detailing what moves would be better. It's not detailing which Pokemon would be better. It's just detailing the event. Again, it's like you have no idea what that article is about.<br />
:::It's real information, yes. But it can be seen by going through the moveset pages, because like I said, someone looking to transfer their Pokemon over so they can have a Pokemon with a move they can no longer learn, already have a game or move in mind. They are not blindly looking through pages.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 06:23, 16 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::Just going to put my 2 cents in here (I'm not strongly for nor against):<br />
::::1) Firstly, I think an important question that needs to be answered first is: Does a section on transfer-only moves have any role outside of the competitive field? All the examples raised at the moment have all been competitive play-oriented which I agree shouldn't be Bulbapedia's focus. I can think of one question where a transfer-only moves section ''could'' help with (e.g. "A Corsola I received from a trade has Whirlpool, Sucker Punch, and Secret Power. Is it hacked?" - although it wouldn't be too hard to find this information elsewhere + it is quite a specific question). <br />
::::2) Another point that should be discussed is that some (albeit a small number of) moves may not be obvious to some users whether they can be transferred or not - e.g. inability to transfer most HMs, ability to transfer from VC, ability to transfer certain HMs (e.g. Defog, Whirlpool)<br />
::::3) Lastly, I should note that a transfer-only moves section is likely to be longer than most will think (esp. as most of it is made up of moves which lost their TM status in a new gen) - though the length isn't as important --[[User:Wowy|<span style="color:#AAAAFF">'''Wowy'''</span>]][[User talk:Wowy|<sub style="color:#B69E00;">'''(토크)'''</sub>]] 07:01, 16 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::i don't think your example is all that great, because force fire is going to say you would just look up the move pages of each of those individual moves and ctrl f for corsola. an example i could think of which is pretty niche, but possible i think, is "im dead set on having a corsola for my playthrough of ultra sun. i want it to have the best movelist possible; im willing to transfer from prev gens to do so. is there a quick way i can get a list of all those moves without having to go through all the pages?" so imo this new section for moves learned from prev gens isnt useless; theres definitely a benefit. i think the question is, is it worth it.<br />
:::::if you ARE going through the lists of previous gens, you already know what you ARENT looking for: every move learnable from the current gen. although i dont think going through lists for new moves requires THAT much work, i dont think the work is negligible either. --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 07:47, 16 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::Yes, I completely agree with you (maybe I should have made that more clear). I was just trying to give an example of a question which would be less competitive play-oriented (because the examples already given are not), and I as I said, the information could easily be found elsewhere --[[User:Wowy|<span style="color:#AAAAFF">'''Wowy'''</span>]][[User talk:Wowy|<sub style="color:#B69E00;">'''(토크)'''</sub>]] 08:48, 16 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::I don't know how I can be any clearer, but the question is "What are moves Pikachu can know in USUM", i.e. by whatever means; it is not, I repeat, NOT something else. The species page alone does not answer it: you need that and ''all'' previous generation learnsets, at minimum. (And that's all I'm saying, basically. I believe you, ForceFire, finally understood that.)<br />
:::::::Wowy, I believe it would only be beneficial if you presented your opinion at [[Bulbapedia talk:Project Pokédex/Structure#Adding moves available only by transfer from an earlier generation|that other talk page]] (maybe even answered my question there). Anyway, I'm just gonna address your points here:<br />
:::::::1. I wouldn't know how any question about moves would not have at least some relevance to competitive play; battles and moves are a central concept of the Pokémon franchise, and anyone who plays Pokémon should have some interest in competitive play. It's a different thing to talk about serious competitive battlers (like, those who maintain tier lists and whatnot), though; and I think they wouldn't really care what the answer to my two questions are (but I could be mistaken, because again, I'm not a competitive player myself). The Swinub I mentioned at that other page was purely non-competitive in that sense, too; I used it for a playthrough. As an aside, I guess the section I propose wouldn't necessarily answer your type of "legal" question; for example, a section would include both {{m|Pay Day}} and {{m|Mimic}} for Pikachu, but a Pikachu that knows both moves simultaneously would still be illegal (I think that's similar to how the current "By breeding" section cannot answer whether two Egg Moves at the same time are legal.)<br />
:::::::2. I already said that at that other page when I explained that it is even harder to find out than I initially thought. (A "By transfer" section will ''not'' necessarily include all moves a Pokémon may have known at some earlier game (Pikachu ''can'' know {{m|Petal Dance}}, for example, but ''not'' in USUM by any means such as transfer); therefore, I also don't think Tiddlywinks' choice of the word "legacy moves" was exact for my proposal.)<br />
:::::::3. I'm not sure it will be that long, but as you said, it shouldn't really matter.<br />
:::::::Sumwun: I ''do'' understand what you're saying (and I agree), but you seem to derail the discussion with some of your more provocative questions (ForceFire never said Bulbapedia shouldn't cover anything that has anything to do with competitive play, for example). I hope that's not your intention, let's try to keep it simple. :)<br />
:::::::ForceFire, moves listed under "By breeding" are not covered by the text you bolded (and by the way, in my opinion, those are about as much "competitive fluff" as "By transfer" is), "By events" even less. I think you didn't answer whether you think casual gamers would need "By breeding"!? (Or did you? I'm still - seriously - trying to get to the bottom of what you think move sections should cover and why.) [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 16:57, 16 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::You didn't even read what I wrote, because I already answered that in my previous response. And I know it's an outright lie when you say you don't have a game or generation in mind, because the question is "What can Pikachu know in '''USUM'''". You've singled out '''USUM'''. That is that game you have in mind. And since you're not looking for anything specific, just the bare minimum (level up, TMS) and that's already on the article. All moves that Pikachu can know through '''normal gameplay (i.e. not anything specific, by any means)''' in '''USUM''' are already on the Pikachu page. The species page already has the most current (i.e. '''USUM''' or '''Gen VII''') moveset. Why are you even looking through the previous generation movesets if you're only looking for moves it can know in'''USUM'''? It's already on the species page, you don't need to click on anything else. <br />
::::::::Breeding is a game mechanic. It's as important as TMs and level up moves. The move sections should cover all moves a Pokémon can learn '''through normal gameplay''' in the most '''recent game or generation'''. Transferring isn't '''learning through normal gameplay". Sure, neither are events, but I can look past that because those are generally one time things and should be noted.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 17:39, 16 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::Nescientist didn't ask for moves that could be known "through normal gameplay". He/she/it asked for moves that could be known "by whatever means", which includes transfer as well as normal gameplay. Is this not a valid question to ask? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 18:14, 16 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::Sigh.. Going through it step by step:<br />
::::::::::# I did read your (whole) message.<br />
::::::::::# I did not lie.<br />
::::::::::# I am not looking for a bare minimum. (My question was on "moves Pikachu can know in USUM [by whatever means]".)<br />
::::::::::# What Sumwun said (and everyone, including Sumwun, should be able to see how it is a ''valid'' question to ask).<br />
::::::::::# I am looking through previous movesets because not all moves Pikachu can know in USUM are at [[Pikachu (Pokémon)]]; Mega Kick, for example, isn't. (We've been there before, I mentioned that way up above, even rephrased it repeatedly.)<br />
::::::::::# Yes, I do need to click on something else to check, i.e. all previous movesets (at minimum).<br />
::::::::::# Transfer is a game mechanic.<br />
::::::::::# In my opinion, breeding is not quite as important as TMs and level-up moves, if only because I cannot&mdash;by no means&mdash;teach (an individual) Pokémon I already own its species' Egg Moves. (It's still important, though.)<br />
::::::::::# Finally, a "definition" of what you think move sections should cover: moves Pokémon may ''learn'' through normal gameplay within the generation, plus event moves. I'll just mention that they do already cover more than that, for example how {{p|Cubchoo}} may learn Avalanche in USUM.<br />
::::::::::Beyond that, of course, I can't be of any help to you when you claim that I didn't read your message and outright lied. And, up to this point, I was trying hard. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 20:02, 17 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::::I think the problem with the "outright lie" is that transferring a Pokemon requires 2 games. Nescientist knew that the END game would be US or UM. When Nescientist said he didn't have a game "in mind", he/she/it was referring to the START game, and his/her/its willingness to transfer a Pokemon FROM any game TO US or UM. Nescientist, is this right? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 20:52, 17 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::::Yes, in your words/example, the end game would be USUM, but the start game could be anything (including USUM itself, i.e. no transfer at all). [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 16:42, 18 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::::::Should we bring this discussion to another administrator's talk page? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 17:22, 25 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Need your help ==<br />
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Hi there! Can you please help me with [[User talk:Mikuri#Who's stalking whose edits?|this discussion]]? I am tired of explaining to them that their obsession with having the current revision of a page is more of a hindrance than a help. Aside from the examples I offered in my talk page, you can check GrammarFreak01's latest edits to [[Marian]]'s page. That sentence they edited was perfectly fine as it was, but they changed it for no reason other than being the last person to have edited the page.<br />
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In doing so, they added misleading information because they clearly have no knowledge on the matter, first by saying that Jessie was disguised as Jessedia "at the time", creating a false impression that she disguised as Jessedia on one occasion when in fact this is a recurring disguise Jessie has changed into at least three times, and then by saying she was "briefly disguised". Assuming you don't know, Jessie has appeared as Jessedia for the duration of the entire Kanto Grand Festival and the Wallace Cup's Battle Stage, as well as in DP093 when she was interviewing Fantina.<br />
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This is not what one would call "briefly". This is not a one-time disguise that is blown off by Ash and his friends at the end of the episode. It's a recurring thing, and GrammarFreak01 is apparently unaware of that and changing a sentence that was completely okay with their nonsense just to accomplish their "goal". It's getting tired and I'm asking for help because these are instances in which I got involved, but who knows the amount of wrong information they have added to the tons of pages they edit daily.<br />
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It's frankly discouraging to edit a page only to have its content vandalized (inserting gibberish into pages counts as vandalism, right?) by someone who has no idea what they're doing and are just trying to get the most recent revision of a page. Also, judging by their latest edit to my talk page, they expect me to be some sort of wizard who can see into the future and tell them that their edit is wrong ''before'' they even make it. I don't know how to respond to that and I'm not the only user who has complained about GrammarFreak01's bad editing habits. Something needs to be done about this situation and that's why I'm asking you to intervene. Please help. --[[User:Mikuri|<span style="color:#2b915e;">'''Mi'''</span>]][[User talk: Mikuri|<span style="color:#52cc91;">'''ku'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Mikuri|<span style="color:#8debbc;">'''ri'''</span>]] 15:12, 14 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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:I am well aware of how long Jessie has been disguised as Jessedia and what she used that disguise for. [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Marian&type=revision&diff=2860143&oldid=2860142 The original sentence] in question just did not make sense to me from a grammatical standpoint. Also, for someone who constantly complains about me having a need to "have the current revision of a page", Mikuri has a nasty habit of editing articles hours and even minutes right after me, leading me to assume she is maliciously following me using my edit history. Examples of this are:<br />
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:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Melody_(M02)&action=history Melody (M02)]<br />
:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Maren&action=history Maren]<br />
:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Carol&action=history Carol]<br />
:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Tobias_(M02)&action=history Tobias (M02)]<br />
:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Molly_Hale&action=history Molly Hale]<br />
:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Liza_(Johto)&action=history Liza (Johto)]<br />
:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Oakley&action=history Oakley]<br />
:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Annie_(M05)&action=history Annie (M05)]<br />
:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Ross&action=history Ross]<br />
:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Butler&action=history Butler]<br />
:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Rafe&action=history Rafe]<br />
:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Jack_Walker&action=history Jack Walker]<br />
:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Lugia_(M02)&action=history Lugia (M02)]<br />
:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Entei_(M03)&action=history Entei (M03)]<br />
:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Celebi_(M04)&action=history Celebi (M04)]<br />
:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Suicune_(M04)&action=history Suicune (M04)]<br />
:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Lucario_(M08)&action=history Lucario (M08)]<br />
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:If you've noticed in the edit histories I provided, much of the articles hadn't been edited in months prior to my original edits. Then, when I make an edit, Mikuri follows after, which I find to be a complete contradiction to their complaints about my editing practices. This was also a problem back in June, when I first [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AMikuri&type=revision&diff=2809252&oldid=2808516 confronted Mikuri about it]. The articles in question were:<br />
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:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Lillie_(anime)&offset=20180628163311&action=history Lillie (anime)]<br />
:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Brock%27s_Vulpix&action=history Brock's Vulpix]<br />
:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Matori&offset=20180818063550&action=history Matori]<br />
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:At one point in our argument, I said [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AMikuri&type=revision&diff=2859786&oldid=2859767 this]. I admit that it was poorly worded due to my blinding irritation of the situation (and that I probably should've changed it once I calmed down). But what I was hoping to convey was that if Mikuri had a problem with me trying to hog the latest revision of a page, they should've tried to take it to the talk page sooner, just like what was usually done with me whenever there was a problem.<br />
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:Clearly, this is a problem that has been going on for months now and I would appreciate your mediation. I don't particularly care about any outcome anymore, so fire away. I only ask that this contradiction on Mikuri's part be addressed in some way. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 22:34, 14 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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::I started "maliciously following" GrammarFreak01's edit history '''after''' I noticed they were stalking my edits. Usually after I finished doing a major edit to a page, they would appear to unnecessarily tweak image sizes (something Tiddlywinks has warned them about) or make another one of their pointless edits. I accused them of doing that in some of my edit summaries and they decided to [[User talk:Mikuri#You're being paranoid|come to my talk page]] and call me paranoid. I could provide a laundry list of that, but I don't feel like it's needed. For one, GrammarFreak01's talk page is chock-full of messages telling them to stop with the pointless edits (and some of them were left there by you, Force Fire). In addition, I am not the only user who has complained about their edit stalking habits, as there is a [[User talk:GrammarFreak01#Edit Stalking|message left by PardescanSlowbro]] detailing the exact same behavior.<br />
::In their defense, all GrammarFreak01 had to say is that they receive email notifications after someone edits a page they have edited in the past. So what? This is no excuse to go around and make needless edits only to have the current revision of a page. And that is the main point of this discussion: GrammarFreak01's history of wholly unnecessary edits that add nothing to our pages. Correction: sometimes their edits make the page worse, as they add wrong information about a subject they know nothing about only to have the most recent revision, as was the case with [[Yuzo]]'s page. Their concern isn't quality content and accurate information, but rather an enormous amount of unverified nonsense. I honestly don't care if my revision isn't the current one and I don't have this kind of problem with any other user in this entire wiki, '''unlike GrammarFreak01'''. Several users have contributed to pages I had worked on, and you don't see me complaining about them. But GrammarFreak01 is not here to contribute, they're here to make unnecessary edits.<br />
::So yes, I can admit that I have edited several pages upon seeing one of GrammarFreak01's edits, but I guess this comes as no surprise considering the recent changes are there for everyone to see, and again, this was '''after''' I noticed they were stalking my edits and making unnecessary changes to them. And there's one notable difference: it was never to add information that was untrue about a subject I know nothing about. My point isn't that they are editing after me, but that those edits are needless. Editing a page after another user isn't a blockable offense, but inserting gibberish into pages is, as is edit flood and edit wars, behaviors also exhibited by GrammarFreak01. And I think it is worth comparing our contributions: I usually do a complete overhaul by adding verified information I gathered and uploading high quality images to the Archives, while GrammarFreak01 has a long and documented history of making pointless edits that add no real content to Bulbapedia and edit warring. --[[User:Mikuri|<span style="color:#2b915e;">'''Mi'''</span>]][[User talk: Mikuri|<span style="color:#52cc91;">'''ku'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Mikuri|<span style="color:#8debbc;">'''ri'''</span>]] 00:34, 15 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::If you read the entire discussion, you will see that [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AGrammarFreak01&type=revision&diff=2825193&oldid=2825153 I explained myself and asked PardescanSlowbro for examples] where my edits were unnecessary and clearly malicious. I was happy to address those concerns. But they did not get back to me on that. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 01:25, 15 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== False positive abuse filter triggers ==<br />
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Hello, recently I tried to move a message I misplaced on a user's talk page (see log [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Special:AbuseLog?wpSearchUser=Ozank&wpSearchTitle=&wpSearchWiki= here]) to the bottom where it should have been, but the abuse filter didn't let me. If you want to look into this, feel free. [[User:Ozank|Ozank]] ([[User talk:Ozank|talk]]) 16:43, 17 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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:He already [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:GrammarFreak01#Re:_Heads_up responded to that]. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 17:39, 17 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Yeah, I've already answered this on GrammarFreak's talk page. I think the system may have deemed moving sections (to the proper place) a drastic edit for a new user. Other than that, you should be fine once you've become a member for a period of time.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 06:20, 18 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Mimikyu's name ==<br />
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Hi there, <br />
Since you're the one who placed the warning in Mimikyu's "Name Origin", would you mind giving it a look [[Talk:Mimikyu (Pokémon)#Mimic_.2B_Q_2|here]]? Seeing that talking about it in the talk page was the recommendation, I'd like to discuss about it a little. Thanks. [[User:ExLight|ExLight]] ([[User talk:ExLight|talk]]) 01:46, 20 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Mewtwo's voice actor ==<br />
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I just watched [https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lrTmDZavVVc a video] where it was revealed that the English voice actor of the {{OBP|Mewtwo|original series|original series Mewtwo}} was actually ''not'' Philip Bartlett. That was a stage name, and the Philip Bartlett who died years ago was a completely different person, with the ''real'' English voice actor behind Mewtwo ''and'' the Philip Bartlett stage name being a man named Jay Goede. I feel like this is worth checking into. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 17:22, 20 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Dr._Fuji_(anime)&diff=2200677&oldid=2192996 Judging by this] and [[Talk:M01#Dr. Fuji's voice|this]], it's been acknowledged back in 2014.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 09:38, 22 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Ah. Okay. Sorry. Shouldn't there then be something like a tooltip on Mewtwo's page to indicate that "Philip Bartlett" is just a stage name? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 09:58, 22 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Don't think it's too much of an issue to do so.<br />
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== Troublesome user ==<br />
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Heads up. Clearly [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Special:Contributions/Cheekybutthole this user] is [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Probopass_(Pok%C3%A9mon)&diff=prev&oldid=2868297 not here to contribute]. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 03:26, 24 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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:Never mind, {{U|Abcboy}} took care of it. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 03:41, 24 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== links ==<br />
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is it all right to repeat links from an above section in a lower one. and u know that internal error that was mentioned above? im still getting it. also i couldnt help noticing ur ignoring a poor man's cry for help up above. not a very nice thing to do, wouldnt u say? :) --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 14:16, 31 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:If something has already been linked in a section, it does not need to be linked again. It's fine to have one link per section, '''only if said link isn't directly below the previous section'''. Once every few sections is fine, but not literally the next section below it.<br />
:The internal error issue is being looked into. There has been no updates yet on its progress.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 05:41, 1 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
::so lets say a link keyword is in every section. you'd want it to be linked in every other section? 1st, 3rd, 5th, etc. --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 06:10, 1 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Use common sense. Also, you don't have to link every time the word "Pokémon species", "Pokémon trainer", or whatever appears.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 06:21, 1 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
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==Voice Actors==<br />
Sent you an email with a list of voice actors from Lisa Ortiz, do I have your approval?--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 16:12, 6 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Those are fine to be added.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 05:45, 7 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Statistic ==<br />
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Why did you undo my edit to statistic? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 17:56, 9 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:You're change wasn't necessary. It was basically saying the same thing.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 03:44, 10 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
::I changed "take effect" to "start affecting turn order", which does not mean the same thing. Speed has other effects, such as determining the base power of gyro ball and electro ball, and those other effects immediately respond to changes to speed. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 04:52, 10 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::The full sentence is " will not take effect until the following turn". What you changed it to is still saying that it wont take effect until the next turn.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 05:00, 10 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::What it currently says is false because it implies that changes to speed do not start affecting the power of gyro ball and electro ball until the next turn. What I changed it to is true because it does not imply that. How can they say the same thing if one is false and the other is true? Would it be better if it said, "An in-battle change to a Pokémon's Speed stat will not start affecting turn order until the following turn, but otherwise takes effect immediately"? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 18:49, 10 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::If I might butt in here, if what Sumwun is saying is true (I've not seen any information whether it is or not), then there 'is' a difference between the two, and I think Sumwun's edit should be reinstated. Speed has effect on more things than just turn order, and some might react to changes sooner than others. --[[User:Felthry|Felthry]] ([[User talk:Felthry|talk]]) 18:00, 11 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::Why would you assume the sentence is talking about Gyro Ball or Electro Ball? It clearly isn't. It's talking about when a Pokémon's speed gets changed due to a stat change, it won't take affect until the following turn. Gyro Ball and Electro Ball are not moves that affect the user's speed, but rely on it, it's not going to get affected by a stat changing move.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 05:48, 13 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::Before commenting on the first 2 sentences of that comment, I just wanted to tell you that the last 2 sentences [https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7anythinggoes-834770797 are false]. I will admit that Showdown! is the most reliable battle simulator available to me, and I'm sorry if that's not reliable enough. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 06:51, 13 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::"Simulator", hence why it isn't reliable. You can change things with a simulator.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 07:17, 13 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::The replay was done in "Anything Goes", a standard format that does not change any battle mechanics. Do you still not trust it? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 16:38, 13 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::No.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 16:40, 13 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::::If not a Showdown! replay, what can convince you that changes in speed can take effect immediately? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 18:03, 13 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::Gyro Ball and Electro Ball both depend on the user's speed, right? So why would you expect that changes to the user's speed wouldn't affect those moves? Regardless of whether it "clearly isn't" talking about them as you personally see it, it's better to be precise than to rely on implicit statements. --[[User:Felthry|Felthry]] ([[User talk:Felthry|talk]]) 23:38, 15 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== New Devolution ==<br />
Hello Force Fire, I am a foreigner and reader on the Bulbapedia site. I only created an account in order to discuss a possible Pokémon capable of performing a Devolution, I mean Silvally (Type: Full).<br />
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Since originally this was his original form, however, he involuted to Type: Null after Faba added a helmet to his face, slowing him down. He will only be Silvally again when he destroys the helmet, that is, if it is valid I would like some moderator on the site to add this Pokémon to the article [[Devolution]]. [[User:NanayaShiki07|NanayaShiki07]] ([[User talk:NanayaShiki07|talk]]) 20:07, 10 November 2018 (~)<br />
:Games=/=anime. I personally don't think it counts as anything. I also don't really care, mainly because the whole story behind Silvally and Type: Null, and how the latter is just the former with a helmet. It just unnecessarily makes things confusing and messes the whole concept of evolution in the franchise. So I don't have any strong opinions about this.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 05:48, 13 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== N as a rival ==<br />
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Don't put a message that says "Please do not add N, as he is not a rival" on the page, If you have an argument against it then put it in the talk page! [[User:Nightfall217|Nightfall217]] ([[User talk:Nightfall217|talk]]) 23:48, 12 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:As an administrator I ''can'' place a hidden message telling users what not to do until a consensus has been made.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 05:48, 13 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Leaf Discussion Page == <br />
I noticed you left a note on my userpage telling me not to delete other people's comments. I want to assure you that I have not done so, and in fact had my comments removed twice by other people when they re-formatted the page. --[[User:LavaringX|LavaringX]] ([[User talk:LavaringX|talk]]) 07:16, 18 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Spaceworld Mainspace ==<br />
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Hello, I was wondering if we could start slowly mainspacing some Pokémon Gold and Silver beta information, as the leaked Spaceworld ROM has been around for nearly a half a year now. A lot of the interest for adding this information onto the site has slowed down, and I thought that perhaps if only a little bit of information was added, like, for example, [[User:Celadonkey/Spaceworld/Dex|a list of Pokémon]], [[User:Celadonkey/Spaceworld#Chikorita_.28Pok.C3.A9mon.29.2FBeta|one or two Pokémon articles]], or [[User:Frozen Fennec/Pokémon Gold and Silver Spaceworld Demo|some information on the gameplay]], then maybe it would spur interest and additions to the wiki. --[[User:Celadonkey|Celadonkey]] 16:39, 18 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Spaceworld stuff shouldn't be the priority right now, clearly. The staff still hasn't decided on how to handle this. Please don't think you can just move them without permission.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 16:57, 18 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
::I wasn't going to move it without permission, that's why I asked you. And alright. Please let me know when staff has reached a decision because this is something I am very interested in helping out with --[[User:Celadonkey|Celadonkey]] 17:02, 18 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== I want to turn a redirect into an article for something else, but I don't have the writing skills. ==<br />
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I asked Chosen 5 days ago, but he never responded. I asked Glik earlier today, but unfortunately he doesn't play the game and couldn't help.<br />
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Anyway, there's a substance called R in the game Detective Pikachu, and it's a big part of the game's story. When I went to search its article, it redirects me to the Trainer Tower instead. I am definitely not able to write the article myself (I sucked at Language Arts), but I also don't want to leave the page as this redirect. What can I do? [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 01:24, 20 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Write a stub or incomplete article? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 02:33, 20 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
::You already created a userpage it seems. You can invite others to help flesh out the article. Sadly, I've never played Detective Pikachu, so I wouldn't know much.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 05:58, 20 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== [[Sea Cottage]] and [[Trophy Garden]] ==<br />
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Hi there. You recently removed information relating to the Bill's Secret Garden rumour without engaging in discussion first, as I had explicitly requested on the talk pages for those articles. I have provided four different articles regarding Bill's Secret Garden and it's mentioned on numerous fansites, so I'm not sure what further evidence you require. It's an extremely notorious rumour. --[[User:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] [[User talk:Poppy Appletree|:3]] 13:43, 20 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I was in the midst of responding on those talk pages whilst you wrote this.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 13:54, 20 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:: Commenting 20 minutes ''after'' the removals isn't exactly a discussion. --[[User:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] [[User talk:Poppy Appletree|:3]] 13:57, 20 November 2018 (UTC)</div>
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== The Preview Button ==<br />
Instead of editing a page several times in a row, try using the preview button to make sure your edit looks the way you want it to. It's right next to the Save Changes button... Please try it out, so as not to clog up the Recent Changes. Thanks! --<sup>[[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup>[[User:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">Jo the Marten</span>]]<sup>[[Flygon (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup> [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">ಠ_ಠ</span>]][[Cilan (anime)|<span style="color:#90C870;">♥</span>]] 10:16, 24 May 2012 (UTC)<br />
::You are absolutely right and most of the time I do use it, but sometimes I am just to hasty or in a rush. I need to take it easy sometimes lol. Sorry for that, I will be more careful from now on. [[User:Blazingfist|¡¡¡Blazingfist!!!]] 10:19, 24 May 2012 (UTC)<br />
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== Team Plasma article ==<br />
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I understand your reasoning, but I think it clear enough that the episodes discussed are unaired. Take this sentence, for example, "Team Plasma '''were initially''' set to debut...but the episodes '''were postponed indefinitely'''...". The rest of the "Behind the scenes" section also clearly and explicitly states that the episodes are unaired. In addition, clicking those links takes you to the articles for the unaired episodes. I don't think there's any confusion over whether it's talking about the aired or unaired episodes. [[User:Pokegen master|Pokegen master]] ([[User talk:Pokegen master|talk]]) 14:53, 1 March 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Ah well, I see you haven't undone it yet. Do as you like, however. I thought it might be a bit confusing, but if you think it isn't, go ahead an change it. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 15:27, 1 March 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::Ok. I didn't want to start an edit war, so I just came here. [[User:Pokegen master|Pokegen master]] ([[User talk:Pokegen master|talk]]) 18:54, 1 March 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Psst... ==<br />
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Rescue Team uses [[User:1ted59/template:User Pokémon Red and Blue R.T|this]]... <nowiki>{{User:1ted59/template:User Pokémon Red and Blue R.T}}<br />
</nowiki> [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] ([[User talk:Marked +-+-+|talk]]) 18:03, 30 March 2013 (UTC)<br />
:I had absolutely no idea what you were talking about until I took a peek at your usertags. Thanks for noticing. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 22:05, 30 March 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Vertress Conference ==<br />
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Where did you get six from? Also, the edit summary you put, I found it to be rude. [[User:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Patty</span>]][[User talk:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Man</span>]] 19:40, 20 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Sorry, I wasn't trying to be rude, I hate being or coming off as rude, but it seemed kind of obvious to me. Especially if you checked here: http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_episodes#Black_.26_White:_Adventures_in_Unova (scroll down, starting from ''[[BW103|Curtain Up, Unova League!]]'', then ''[[BW104|Mission: Defeat Your Rival!]]'', ''[[BW105|Lost at the League!]]'', ''[[BW106|Strong Strategy Steals the Show!]]'', ''[[BW107|Cameron's Secret Weapon!]]'', and lastly ''[[BW108|A Unova League Evolution!]]'', six episodes in total, which does in fact make it the shortest league. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ [[User:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Blazing</span>]]</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 19:45, 20 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
::I must have counted ''[[BW102|Team Eevee and the Pokémon Rescue Squad!]]'' by mistake. Anyway, I got seven since someone else who made the edit back then mentioned that ''Lost at the League!'' didn't count as a league episode. At least you told me that you weren't being rude (how i respond to it). By the way, thank you for fixing those new pages that I created of the missing characters of the day. [[User:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Patty</span>]][[User talk:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Man</span>]] 19:55, 20 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::Don't worry about it, those are just small mistakes that happen. I'll try being more polite the next time something like this happens. And that thing with those characters, don't mention it. I like doing that kind of editing stuff, I like creating missing character/location pages myself too and it is nice to see you found some characters that still needed a page <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ [[User:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Blazing</span>]]</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 19:59, 20 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Personality and characteristics ==<br />
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What was wroung my personalty and charactics on jessie frellish I did In 12years old I'm so confuse I watch this show in japAnses as well. I thought it was right and I wrought down on a paper about why did you take it off I'm not stupid I'm not that what i thought about her please tell me please I be you email catlovewillams@aol.com please unless can you fix it or can I send you my thing then you said you like i put it on [[User:Catlove|Catlove]] ([[User talk:Catlove|talk]]) 19:15, 6 May 2013 (UTC)catlove[[User:Catlove|Catlove]] ([[User talk:Catlove|talk]]) 19:15, 6 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
:It's nothing personal, or anything, it is because the grammar and spelling you used was very bad and almost unreadable. I perfectly understand English may not be your native language (guess what, English isn't my native language either) but remember, this IS an English encyclopedia, so at least basic level skills of the English language are wanted here. Also, you wrote some Pokémon names wrong. Try to improve your English a bit and read this: the {{bp|Manual of Style}}, it contains useful information about writing things here at Bulbapedia. Hope this clears things up. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ [[User:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Blazing</span>]]</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 19:27, 6 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Who's That Pokemon? BW115 engdub ==<br />
I just want to know is Watchog featured in english version of Who's That Pokemon BW115 o not?<br />
Pikachu65 13:25, 1 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
:I have no idea actually. I haven't seen the episode, I only know it aired because a review topic of the episode was opened on the forums. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ [[User:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Blazing</span>]]</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 13:27, 1 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
Maybe it was Watchog after all. Oh well. Just wait until tomorrow. Pikachu65 13:31, 1 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
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And besides, Watchog has been scanned second time. In episode BW115. Pikachu65 11:48, 2 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Charizard ==<br />
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Hey I didnt say anything about the fact that they cant. The section I was pointed to said nothing but that. I was pointing it out. But if the dub says so then it is confirmed. I get saying it once or twice in an episode could be a mistake but if the official website states it, then it is confirmed. The Pokemon company here works close with the one in Japan, So I doubt that they would just make stuff up. All of the signs point to him as a male, he even looks male, unlike Charla, So I would say that it is in fact confirmed [[User:Black60Dragon|<font color="black">'''Black'''</font><font color="red">'''Dragon'''</font>]] 00:21, 9 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
:I'm going to reply here, to keep it in one place. It seemed like you said they can't, as you didn't make it sound like a quote. But anyway, that's not important. If the characters in the dub say so, it is not confirmed, as the dub is just a derivation of the original Japanese series. The original Japanese series is ultimate canon, as the series is made in Japan. So, if they don't refer to Ash's Charizard as male in the original Japanese episodes (which they don't), but they do in the dub, then it's not canon. And where does the official website state it? Could you provide a source? Lastly, "he even looks male, unlike Charla" isn't confirmation, just an opinion. Someone else could see that differently. As it is a policy, written in big red letters on the talk page of the article, it is better to leave it alone. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ [[User:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Blazing</span>]]</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 00:27, 9 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
::There is the Purrloin incident when Meowth traveled with the group. [[User:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Patty</span>]][[User talk:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Man</span>]] 00:33, 9 June 2013 (UTC)~<br />
::: ^ Which does indeed confirm that Pokémon of the same sex could fall in love which each other. For all we know Charizard ''is'' female. Now ''that'' would be a stunning revelation, if they decided to make that ultimate canon. But we don't know yet. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ [[User:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Blazing</span>]]</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 00:39, 9 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
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Still even if Japan is the ultimate cannon version, the American Pokemon company is just as reliable. Yeah the looking part is an opinion, I was just saying that. I mean Charla is a girl and looks like it. I dont see Ash putting Bows in Charizards hair, just saying. But honestly if the Dub says it it should be confirmed, as like I said, They work close together now. Sometimes you have to just take the clues and what the dub says and put it together. Every sign says he is just read them. But if I remember correctly the Meowth moment, he thought that Purrloin was a girl right? Which doesnt say much as he took it back. If that is the right moment. [[User:Black60Dragon|<font color="black">'''Black'''</font><font color="red">'''Dragon'''</font>]] 03:21, 9 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
:There's a note next the "Unknown" stating that it is male in the dub (hover over the asterisk to see it). But that doesn't mean it is a male in the Japanese version.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#025DA6">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#5A96C5">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EA1A3E">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#F16A81">ire</span>]] 04:35, 9 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Indeed, that note should be enough. It is referred to as male in the dub version, okay, but not in the original version. The Japanese language does not have gender pronouns. Which mean they can't refer to Charizard as male or female in the original version. Which means it could only be revealed by other means. Conclusion: we don't know if it is male or female in the original version right now, we do know it is male in the dub. The original version is the most important and should be noted first, and this is exactly how it is stated now in its infobox on its page. I don't see a problem. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ [[User:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Blazing</span>]]</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 11:45, 9 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Watari Island ==<br />
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Is that the same as Migration Island as the Pocket Monsters summary states? http://www.pocketmonsters.net/episodes/1498#Comments [[User:AeroWind|AeroWind]] ([[User talk:AeroWind|talk]]) 12:42, 13 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Yes, that's supposed to be the one. I keep regular track of summaries of episodes, and I believe it was called Watari Island at first and later mostly referred to as Migration Island. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ [[User:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Blazing</span>]]</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 12:48, 13 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Oh alright good to know. Thanks. [[User:AeroWind|AeroWind]] ([[User talk:AeroWind|talk]]) 12:49, 13 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Concerning the trivia in BW119 ==<br />
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It was the first time the first time the Genesect Army was shown in the anime, albeit only in a flashback, so I would think it would count as notable Trivia [[User:Weavilewarrior|Weavile Warrior]] ([[User talk:Weavilewarrior|talk]]) 23:47, 15 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Yes, but the main point you made was Genesect individually appearing for the second time in the anime. 1: The first time was a silhoutte, which is not counted as an appearance, 2: Something is not trivia worthy when its the second time, in this case Genesect appearing for the second time. <br />
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:Which brings me to the trivia about the Genesect Army, I'm not sure about that actually. But I'd still keep it as unnotable, as the Genesect Army, with a link to the corresponding page, is already listed under "Debut" on the BW119 page, that should be enough. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 23:52, 15 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:Okay, I'll fix the page --[[User:Weavilewarrior|Weavile Warrior]] ([[User talk:Weavilewarrior|talk]]) 23:58, 15 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== BW123 ==<br />
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I contacted {{u|Crystal Talian}} about the title, she said to wait until either a title card of the episode on TV, a DVD title card, or the official site posted the title of the episode before changing it. [[User_talk:Crystal_Talian#Cartoon_Network|Link to discussion]]. — [[User:Reshi643|<span style="color:#7038F8">Reshi</span>]][[User talk:Reshi643|<span style="color:#F08030">643</span>]] 04:14, 16 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Yes, I saw it just now, good you asked a staff member about this. While Cartoon Network is an official source when it comes to the Pokémon anime, they've also made terrible mistakes with dub names in the past, so they are not reliable for the full 100%. It think's it's indeed best the way it's done now. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 11:47, 16 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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Hi! Blazingfist, I tell you, I saw the title of the BW123 in www.cartoonnetwork.com in the program schedule last Sunday, and appeared well: Farewell, Unova! Setting Sail for New Adventures! . And if you now get to see the program schedule on Saturday will find the title as you point it out myself, nice talking to you! and no problem with writing in my page discussion :D bye! --[[User:1998gmo|1998gmo]] ([[User talk:1998gmo|talk]]) 18:55, 16 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Nice talking to you too :D Anyway, for now the page title has been changed back, I hope you understand, as it is not confirmed 100%. Also [http://www.locatetv.com/listings/cartoon-network#27-Jul-2013 this schedule] lists the title as just ''Farewell, Unova!'' (they misspell Unova as "Unvoa" though). Very weird, only time will tell what the real title is. But thanks for your input and research of course! <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 20:40, 16 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Harley's Cacturne ==<br />
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If Alexa's Helioptile and Gogoat don't count as Pokémon seen on Minori Island, what about Harley's Cacturne on Izabe Island since it made recurring appearances in other places? [[User:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Patty</span>]][[User talk:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Man</span>]] 16:12, 4 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
:I don't know about that, that should probably be removed too then. I always figured the "Seen on" section was for Pokémon that seem native on the island or owned by CotDs on the island. Anyway, if Gogoat and Helioptile are counted, should Pikachu, Axew and others not be included too to the "Seen on" section then. Just doesn't make much sense if you ask me. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 16:38, 4 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
::I usually count the debuts of the non-CotDs as Pokémon seen on the island. However, seeing your point, it would be best to remove them all. [[User:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Patty</span>]][[User talk:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Man</span>]] 18:03, 4 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Userspace policy ==<br />
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Please note that the {{bp|Userspace policy#Other users' pages|states}} ''Userpages are personal pages, and are not to be edited by other users unless prior permisson has been given. Instances in which this is permitted include, but are not limited to, broken links that appear on the wanted pages, duplicate images on the Archives, uncategorizing a userpage categorized in a category it should clearly not be in, reverting vandalism, etc.'' You violated that policy when you took it upon yourself to make [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User:Black60Dragon&curid=179308&diff=1951916&oldid=1951914&rcid=2087811 this edit]. You should have notified a staff member and let them take care of it, not try to correct them by removing the content yourself. Please keep this in mind during the future. Thank you. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">--Pokemaster</span>]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">97</span>]]''''' 02:28, 13 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Oh, I am very sorry. That was not my intention of course. I thought someone had forgotten to remove that, as that user didn't create that page, even admitted that him/herself. But I shouldn't have done that. Won't happen again. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 09:51, 13 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Sorting in categories ==<br />
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Personally, I prefer to use <code><nowiki>{{DEFAULTSORT:Juniper, Cedric}}</nowiki></code> over putting the same text in each individual category. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 17:00, 18 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
:And by that you mean? I'm sorry, a lot of anime character pages miss that Anime characters category, but if there's a better way than how I'm doing it right now, I'd like to hear it of course. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 17:03, 18 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Sorry, I was a bit vague there. For example, rather than putting "Davis, Alex" in all the category links like [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Alex_Davis&diff=next&oldid=1862452 this], I think it's a better idea to use DEFAULTSORT like [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Alex_Davis&diff=next&oldid=1954983 this]. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 17:06, 18 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::Ah ok, I get what you mean now. I did the former thing because that's how it was already on a lot of these pages, but I'll use the method you recommend then instead. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 17:08, 18 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== My Explanation ==<br />
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Hello, i'm PokeSerbia. I'm from the Serbia. I wanted that i'm not good at english lanaguage because i'm not native from the US/UK/Canada and i'm from serbia as my users suggest. I do wanted to improve my grammar, but i still had yet to do. I'm sorry for what i'm doing it for reason. I wanted to fix the plot but some of my bad grammar i'm you and others reverting because of my ignorance of Bulbapedia system.<br />
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For what i would, i wanted to add that the Panchau's species was originally Naughthy Pokemon but some users made share species and i wanted to add origin spescies was Naugthy Pokemon.<br />
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I'm very very very very very very sorry for my bad gramaar for i'm not native. {{unsigned|PokeSerbia}}<br />
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== Re: Uploading Pictures ==<br />
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In response to your message, as I explained before, I did in fact check the Archives for any answers I could find, but yet, none I found. Is there any other possible way to upload pictures? Whenever I do, it says:<br />
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"You do not have permission to create new pages."<br />
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Even though I actually do have permission to create pages, even though I don't want to create a page in this case in the first place, that's what I get whenever I want to add a picture :/ {{unsigned|MatrVincent}}<br />
:It's probably because you're not Autoconfirmed. As it says in the Archives FAQ under "How do I upload?", you need to have made a certain amount of edits on already existing files. Getting to edit your userspace on Bulbapedia works the same way as you may have noticed you weren't able to create your own userpage right away. The exact number of edits to be made to become Autoconfirmed is actually a secret. As I'm not active on the Archives myself I suggest sending a message to an Archives admin asking what you can help with or what files you could edit. <br />
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:Oh and it's important to sign your messages. This is done with typing four of these: ~ Happy editing! <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 03:08, 21 March 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Meyer/Blaziken Mask ==<br />
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Just an FYI in case you're not watching it. I've responded to your post [[Talk:Meyer#Merge with Blaziken Mask|here]]. Curious on your thoughts here. Granted, this might have already been discussed on the forum, which to me would be bad since it's a Wiki-related thing. Has this been discussed somewhere on-Wiki? [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 03:21, 22 March 2014 (UTC)<br />
:Thanks for letting me know. As far as I know this hasn't been discussed elsewhere. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 09:33, 22 March 2014 (UTC)<br />
::Ah, I see. Well, [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Bulbapedia_talk:Editor%27s_Hub#Blaziken_Mask.2FMeyer I started one]. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 15:32, 22 March 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Congratulations! ==<br />
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Congratulations! You finally became a Junior Administrator, keep it up on your hard work! Good luck! --[[User:Cinday123|<span style="color:pink">Cinday123</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:Cinday123|<span style="color:lightblue">Talk</span>]])''</small> 06:14, 24 March 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Discussion of Fennekin's Psyshock ==<br />
Where is this discussion going on cuz I can't find it. And, really, what other move could it be besides "Psyshock"? No other move fits the description, and we can't just wait until Serena uses Fennekin in battle because god knows how long will it take..--[[User:Omojuzeforever|Omojuzeforever]] ([[User talk:Omojuzeforever|talk]]) 16:35, 27 March 2014 (UTC)<br />
:The discussion is not taking place here on Bulbapedia. I've talked it over with G50 who is a Senior Administrator and we've both come to the conclusion that it's wise to leave it unconfirmed for now. I'm sorry, but if we went by everything that isn't called out directly we would be making a lot of assumptions and Bulbapedia wouldn't be a very trustworthy place. Maybe the higher staff will still decide to consider it confirmed as being Psyshock, but if not, we'll just have to wait to a future instance where the move is directly commanded by Serena, unfortunately. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 16:42, 27 March 2014 (UTC)<br />
::Ok, got it.. Fair enough, just saying that its pretty clear that the move was Psyshock, but I guess we can wait.--[[User:Omojuzeforever|Omojuzeforever]] ([[User talk:Omojuzeforever|talk]]) 16:51, 27 March 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Good News ==<br />
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Refer to the Meyer/Blaziken Mask discussion above.<br />
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We're good for a merge. Just chatted with [[User:Force Fire]] over on his talk page about it and he confirms we're clear now to go ahead and merge it. Before doing so, I wanted to see some of your opinions on going about the merge. I'm headed to bed right now and don't think I'd be able to do a complete job in my present state of mind, but I will be looking at it in the morning while I'm stationed at home for a while before I take off for the afternoon and already have some ideas for it.<br />
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If I don't see you respond by morning (which is fine, maybe you're in bed too), I'll go ahead and put my ideas into practice and you can still contribute after the fact. I merely wanted to ask your thoughts now, while I'm asleep, before going ahead, and would take that into consideration. =) [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 05:16, 28 March 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Siebold's Mega Blastoise's Ability ==<br />
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Could you clarify [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Siebold&diff=2102675&oldid=2102674 this]? I didn't quite get your summary. --'''<span style="text-shadow:grey 0.1em 0.1em 0.1em; font-size:110%">[[User:Det|<span style="color:gold">D</span><span style="color:orange">e</span><span style="color:red">t</span>]][[User talk:Det|<sup><font color="white">talk</font></sup>]]</span>''' 14:21, 14 April 2014 (UTC)<br />
:Yes I can. Even if it's obvious a Pokémon has a certain Ability because it's the only one it has (like with Mega Blastoise), we still notice it. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 14:24, 14 April 2014 (UTC)<br />
::Have it your way. --'''<span style="text-shadow:grey 0.1em 0.1em 0.1em; font-size:110%">[[User:Det|<span style="color:gold">D</span><span style="color:orange">e</span><span style="color:red">t</span>]][[User talk:Det|<sup><font color="white">talk</font></sup>]]</span>''' 14:26, 14 April 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== I think we collectively broke a talk page ==<br />
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[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Favocado&action=history Just step through the diff pages....] [[User:Schiffy|<span style="color:DarkGreen">Schiffy (瀬藤健二)</span>]] ([[User talk:Schiffy|<span style="color:#FF6600">Talk</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|<span style="color:#FF0000">Contribs</span>]]) 20:08, 4/18/2014 (UTC)<br />
:I noticed that. I'm pretty sure that was a result of both clicking the save button, doing the same thing, at the exact same moment. Nothing to worry about I guess, the page itself doesn't seem broken. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 20:12, 18 April 2014 (UTC)<br />
::I suppose it's not... just.... oy vey. [[User:Schiffy|<span style="color:DarkGreen">Schiffy (瀬藤健二)</span>]] ([[User talk:Schiffy|<span style="color:#FF6600">Talk</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|<span style="color:#FF0000">Contribs</span>]]) 20:13, 4/18/2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Officer Jenny and Nurse Joy ==<br />
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I've been reconstructing [[Officer Jenny]]'s and [[Nurse Joy]]'s pages a bit. Could you assist me on completing them as you can do one arc and I could do the other? [[User:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Patty</span>]][[User talk:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Man</span>]] 03:57, 30 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
:Sure, I'll see what I can do. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 09:37, 30 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Movie characters category ==<br />
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Hey Blazingfist, I just added the {{cat|Anime characters}} category into the {{template|moviecharacters}} template, so there will be no need to add said category to each individual page. The only issue one might have with this is if we don't consider the movie Pokémon to be under that category; if that's the case, you could revert my edit. Just thought I'd let you know. [[User:Ht14|<span style="color:#FF1111"><sup>'''''ht'''''</sup></span>]][[User talk:Ht14|<span style="color:#11BB11"><small>''14''</small></span>]] 15:58, 12 June 2014 (UTC)<br />
:Thanks for bringing this up, I had no idea to be honest. But I'm checking some pages I haven't done yet and the anime characters category doesn't show up with some. Maybe it takes some time but I'll check later if any pages still need it. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 16:00, 12 June 2014 (UTC)<br />
::Haha, I just put it up once I noticed what you're doing, specifically with the movie characters, so you're right, it will take some time. Just remove the category for the movie characters; sorry for having to make you edit those pages again ^^; As a side note, the default cat thing you removed... it's so weird that it's there in the first place... [[User:Ht14|<span style="color:#FF1111"><sup>'''''ht'''''</sup></span>]][[User talk:Ht14|<span style="color:#11BB11"><small>''14''</small></span>]] 16:03, 12 June 2014 (UTC)<br />
:::I see. Dang, now I'll have to undo everything >.< I'll get to that later. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 16:05, 12 June 2014 (UTC)<br />
::::I mean, I could do it instead if you'd like; it's just that I don't want to interrupt your flow, that's all. [[User:Ht14|<span style="color:#FF1111"><sup>'''''ht'''''</sup></span>]][[User talk:Ht14|<span style="color:#11BB11"><small>''14''</small></span>]] 16:07, 12 June 2014 (UTC)<br />
:::::If you don't mind, that'd be good. I have other things to do soon anyway. But make sure not just to hit the undo button with every page, since I also removed these Defaultsort things on some pages that were definitely not needed. Thanks! <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 16:10, 12 June 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Berry baker kids ==<br />
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I placed the {{template|unknown name}} template of the [[Berry baker kids]] page because they weren't given real names such as Emily, Brad, Alan, and so on. To me, berry baker kids sounds like an occupation they're being referred to. [[User:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Patty</span>]][[User talk:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Man</span>]] 01:39, 30 June 2014 (UTC)<br />
:To me it seems more like the name of their "baking group", rather than an occupation. Anyway, the dubbers decided to use this in place of "Toraya siblings", so it should be treated as the official name. The {template|unknown name}} would imply they have no known name at all, which isn't true, since they were referred to as this in the episode. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 10:02, 1 July 2014 (UTC)<br />
::Ok then. As for the Nurse Joy an Officer Jenny pages I posted above, you can fix the wording and stuff if you find some of it not making sense. [[User:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Patty</span>]][[User talk:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Man</span>]] 01:00, 2 July 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Heroes - Friends and Faux Alike! ==<br />
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Hello, I saw you reverted my edit in [[XY030]] by putting the English name of the previous episode instead of the "XY029" epicode. As I explained in the edit summary, the English name shouldn't be put if its a Japan-only event (in this case, the one-hour special), but rather just the epicode. I'd like to know if there's there any reason to put the English title again, since you might have not been aware of that, or I could be as well wrong. --[[User:Gabo 2oo|Gabo 2oo]] ([[User talk:Gabo 2oo|talk]]) 20:08, 7 July 2014 (UTC)<br />
:My apologies, I didn't check the history so I didn't even notice you had undone anything. Well, [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_anime_specials#Main_series all the other couple of episodes that aired right after each other] do have the dub title even if they aired only together in Japan. I automatically deduced this was the right thing to do for XY029 and XY030 as well. Personally it weirdens me if only the epicode is shown on a page that represents both the original version and the dub, unlike when it's on a page that's original version only like for a Japanese opening or ending. But perhaps you're right, since it ''does'' refer to something that applies to the original version only. Perhaps it's best to ask a higher-up admin about this as I'm not completely sure. In any case, if the latter applies then all the other dub titles on pages of episodes that didn't air together in the English dub should be removed as well. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 20:27, 7 July 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Signature ==<br />
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Well, the current signature is just in part where I only used the "R", referring to the 超龍's signature. [[User:KyleRGiggs|Raymond]] 05:54, 24 July 2014 (UTC)<br />
:Sorry, but your signature doesn't link to your userpage. Please make part of it link to your userpage. (This message has nothing to do with the one above. I thought it would be better if I put it in this section instead of creating a new one with the same name.) [[User talk:Player3.25|Brought to you by]] [[User:Player3.25|player 3.25]] 16:24, 25 July 2014 (UTC)<br />
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==How to make new pages==<br />
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Look,blaze.I'm Sladoled and literally the only reason I've joined bulbapedia is to make an article on Conway's Slowking.Could you clarify to me how to do it? {{unsigned|Sladoled}}<br />
:You can only create pages once you're autoconfirmed. You'll become autoconfirmed once your account has been active for a while and once you've made a certain amount of edits (the exact number is a secret). That being said, Conway's Slowking is not deemed notable enough for its own article. It only had a couple of appearances and didn't show enough personality. In fact, other users have made pages for it before, but they were deleted by the Staff. Still, there are enough other things you can do on Bulbapedia. Check what [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Special:WantedPages Wanted Pages] there are for example. There are also articles that are too short, so-called [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Category:Stubs Stubs]. Then we have [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Category:Articles_needing_improvement articles needing improvement], and [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Category:Articles_needing_more_information articles needing more information] (in the latter, it's usually a short bit of information that's missing). Enjoy your time here and I wish you good luck finding things to edit on Bulbapedia. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 10:19, 1 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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Thanks for the help blaze,and I think that [[p|Slowking]] has shown more personality than pokémon like [[Sakura's Espeon]] and you should really consider letting the article exist.Just for the sake of awesome. {{unsigned|Sladoled}}<br />
:You're welcome. Check [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Bulbapedia:Anime_Pok%C3%A9mon_Notability_policy#Notability_requirements this] to see what requirements a Pokémon needs to get an own page. In the section I linked, especially check point 3. While Slowking may be considered Conway's signature Pokémon, it didn't have any major impact in the episodes it appeared in or in the series as a whole. Sakura's Espeon did, and this is why it does have a page and Conway's Slowking does not. Also, please remember to sign your comments. You do this by leaving four tildes like this: <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. Finally, you linked to Slowking's page like this: <nowiki>[[p|Slowking]]</nowiki>. The correct way is <nowiki>{{p|Slowking}}</nowiki>. In the future, please use the latter when linking to Pokémon. Thanks. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 11:14, 1 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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Thanks, I really appreciate the help. I promise to help out a lot. [[User:Sladoled|Sladoled]] ([[User talk:Sladoled|talk]]) 20:24, 1 August 2014 (UTC)Sladoled<br />
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== Elite Four Members and Champions ==<br />
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Hey Blazingfist,<br />
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I'm not trying to be rude, but I've got a question. On the Elite Four page, it lists that Ash has met Lance. I edited it awhile back, adding that Ash has met Diantha. Lance is listed as a Champion on the aforementioned page, so why doesn't it count that Ash met Diantha in ''[[XY028|The Bonds of Evolution!]]''? {{unsigned|WATERWARRIOR67}}<br />
:It's because that page lists Lance as Elite Four. I know it's a bit confusing, but back in Gen I Lance was of course still Elite Four. That page counts Lance as being part of the Gen I Elite Four too (even though he was referred to as a Champion in the episodes he appeared in). Also a reminder, please sign your comments. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 10:05, 5 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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Okay, thanks for the clarification and reminder! [[User:WATERWARRIOR67|WATERWARRIOR67]] ([[User talk:WATERWARRIOR67|talk]]) 13:36, 5 August 2014 (UTC)WATERWARRIOR67<br />
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== Trivia ==<br />
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On the Rota page, I was guessing. I wasn't really awake when I typed it. I meant to type that it shares its name with the island of Rota, considering it's a real place. I don't know how I keep screwing the simple things up. [[User:WATERWARRIOR67|WATERWARRIOR67]] ([[User talk:WATERWARRIOR67|talk]]) 17:10, 9 August 2014 (UTC)WATERWARRIOR67<br />
:I undid your edit there because I really doubt that's where they got the name Rota from. It sharing the name of a real-life island can also be a coincidence. If the real-life Rota were a medieval-themed town with a castle, yes then it would've been very likely to be the name origin. Since it's a tropical island instead, I really doubt it. Be aware that a lot of the trivia you've added over the past few weeks has been removed, for the simple reason these bits of trivia were not notable enough, or too unfounded. Before you add trivia, always ask yourself if it's notable enough or if the trivia is actually true or based on loose thoughts instead. If you're really not sure, you can always propose the trivia on the talk page of the page you want to add the trivia to, so others can decide if it is indeed notable enough. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 17:22, 9 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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One, I wish that were the case with Rota; I'm really into history and cultural stuff like that. Two, what do you mean by too unfounded. And three, by "others", who do you mean? {{unsigned|WATERWARRIOR67}}<br />
:With unfounded I mean that a lot of the trivia you've come up with so far has been very doubtful. Like characters being named after singers or bands, or a medieval town like Rota being named after a real-life tropical island. A lot of them seemed to be based on loose thoughts rather than factual information or likeliness. It's best to only add trivia if it's completely factual or at least very likely. Other trivia you added simply wasn't notable enough. That's why I said you could bring your trivia additions up on talk pages before you add them, just to be sure it's noteworthy, or plausible. With others I simply mean other users. And you've been told before, but please sign your comments. Thanks. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 23:57, 9 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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==Misty==<br />
Might want to check out the last few edits to [[Misty]] by {{u|Spluff5}}. A number of team alterations that don't look immediately wrong, but seeing as their first edit to the page was replacing one set with information from a fake game (which they then reverted), I'm incredulous. <small>[[User:Glik|glik]]</small><sup>[[User talk:Glik|glak]]</sup> 20:38, 19 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
:I had my doubts too, but the thing they did with changing Corsola into Quagsire is actually correct; Misty ''does'' have a Quagsire, and not a Corsola in her HGSS rematch team. I'm still not sure about the other info they added such as the moves and items, but I'll check if that is correct or not. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 20:48, 19 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Dub titles ==<br />
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How come XY036's title was dub title was deleted it was from a legible source:<br />
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http://www.tvinfo.de/fernsehprogramm/245310938-pokemon-die-tv-serie-xy<br />
And no air dates were provided.{{unsigned|Pichu911}}<br />
:Because Adyniz, who is a Bureaucrat here and watches over the dub title reveals, has said we have to consider these two unconfirmed for now. Bulbapedia is unfamiliar with this source. What if we add all those titles now and they don't turn out to be true? That would be a mess, and this has happened before (I speak out of experience). The official CN schedule with the titles for the month of September should come within 10 days, so let's just wait for that and then we'll see if they turn out to be true. And please sign your comments. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 09:52, 22 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Tricks to bypass the CDN cache ==<br />
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Please do not use the "trick" of changing the image size by one pixel to force the CDN to change the image. Images will update when they update, and should not be forced wiki-side. - [[User:Kogoro|'''<span class="sc" style="color:#DA70D6;">Kogoro</span>''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''<span class="sc" style="color:#FFB6C1;">Talk to me</span>''']] - 22:53, 6 September 2014 (UTC)<br />
:My apologies, I did go overboard with this. It won't happen again. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 22:56, 6 September 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Clemontic Gear ==<br />
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Hello, you commented on the picture for the Motivation Machine that it would be better to wait until a confirmation of the names before uploading, so it wouldn't be necessary to move it later. I suggest that, instead of that, we could just name them "Clemontic Gear XYxxx" temporarily, but instead of moving it to a translation of its Japanese name, we could wait until the dub version to air and ''then'' move it to its English name. I believe this could save work and time, all while we could still list the Japanese names and translation on the article itself.<br />
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Also, is there any specific requirements for userspace articles to be moved to the main space? Because your page is pretty good and I'm worried if its moving stretches out too long. I mean, there are articles like [[User:HoennMaster/N's Hideout|N's Hideout]] that still haven't been moved to mainspace, even if by now, the information is not as required as it would have been back in the day when it first appeared. I wouldn't want that to happen to the Clemontic Gear page, specially since I haven't really seen any discussion about articles that should be moved to mainspace.<br />
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By the way, I have a doubt about [[a:File:OPJ17 2.png|the ''Mega Volt'' opening header picture]]. As you can see by its history, I had a little edit war with Ataro (yes, I'm sorry about that, it wasn't called for), since he said that due to the title of the opening, we should use a picture that has something "Mega" on it, instead of the screenshot I considered better. The thing is, leaving that aside, said "Mega" header picture isn't used anymore in the opening sequence, as it was replaced along with other scenes. Is it okay if the head picture for the opening is from a scene that isn't used on it? I ask because we could use that picture in our usual "Variant" section instead, and I asked Ataro about this on his talk page, but he didn't seem to answer me. --[[User:Gabo 2oo|Gabo 2oo]] ([[User talk:Gabo 2oo|talk]]) 23:42, 15 October 2014 (UTC)<br />
:I think that might be a better idea indeed, as you're right having to move from Japanese to dub is also kinda unnecessary moving. Fine with me.<br />
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:I don't know the specific requirements for it to be moved to the mainspace. I think in most cases, or at least the most important ones, the Editorial Board has the final say. But sometimes it might also be any higher-up admins who make the decision. I'd also see it moved rather soon, I'll bring it up on the talk page.<br />
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:I'm not sure if I should participate in this discussion, also because I'm only a Junior Admin on Bulbapedia, not on the Archives, so I have little to say there. My advice is to still bring it up with Ataro, and if he doesn't respond maybe send him a reminder. And otherwise you should bring it up with Kogoro. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 10:07, 16 October 2014 (UTC)<br />
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==A Question on Creating Pages==<br />
Hi, I'm new (It took me a while to find the edit button...) and I just have a quick question. How long after creating an account must you wait until you are allowed to create a page? I'm itching to create one that (surprisingly) doesn't even exist yet! Thanks, hjk321 14:22, 16 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
:Hello hjk321. First off, welcome to Bulbapedia. If you have problems finding things out around here, I'd suggest having a look at the [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Bulbapedia:FAQ FAQ]. But asking another user is always a good idea too of course. To answer your question: you need to make a certain number of edits, and your account must have been registered for a certain while. For both requirements I don't know the exact numbers, as this is a secret known by only a few. I'd suggest just to start editing. The numbers to meet those requirements shouldn't be too high. Just edit away and eventually you'll become autoconfirmed, which means you'll be allowed to create pages, among other things. To give some ideas as to what you could edit, I'd suggest checking out the [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Bulbapedia:Editor%27s_Hub Editor's Hub]. Also check out the [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Bulbapedia:Manual_of_style Manual of Style]. The latter is a good guide on general editing. If you have an idea for a page, it's always a good idea to create it in your userspace first. If it is deemed complete and Bulbapedia-worthy, it can be mainspaced. But, to create your userspace you need to become autoconfirmed as well. If you have any further questions, don't hesitate to ask them to me, or any other staff member. I'd be happy to answer. Have a good time around here, and happy editing! <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 17:04, 16 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Luxio's English dub VA Help ==<br />
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Do you know who voiced Clemont's Luxio in the English version? I thought it was Sarah but ForceFire said it's not. Could you help find out who it is? I'm didn't get any luck finding who it is. --JasonL 14:01, 7 March 2015 (UTC) [[User:JasonL|JasonL]] ([[User talk:JasonL|Talk]])<br />
:I'm sorry, I have no idea. I'm not the right person to ask about voice actors. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 14:14, 7 March 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Crunch typo ==<br />
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Your Salamence appears to have a typo with the move {{tt|Crunch|spelled as Crucnh}}. I would have done it but seeing that you are active on the 'pedia, I'm leaving it to you. [[User:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Patty</span>]][[User talk:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Man</span>]] 23:40, 11 March 2015 (UTC)<br />
:Whoops, thanks! I did preview, but I must have overseen it. I'll fix it right away. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 23:57, 11 March 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Watt's move ==<br />
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I was informed by SnorlaxMonster before that we shouldn't be moving pages if a character's dubname is the same as a later character's Japanese name since the dub name of said later character may be different and moving them back would be a lot to handle. The move of Hoenn's Watt is an example as it was moved too early. I went ahead and added a move tag to Hoenn's Watt. [[User:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Patty</span>]][[User talk:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Man</span>]] 15:59, 14 March 2015 (UTC)<br />
:Oh, I was never aware of that rule. Then it should be moved back I guess. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 16:01, 14 March 2015 (UTC)<br />
::Indeed, I too wasn't aware about it at first. These things happen, nothing personal. :) [[User:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Patty</span>]][[User talk:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Man</span>]] 16:10, 14 March 2015 (UTC)<br />
:::I was going to bring this up, but looks like you already know. It's not really a formal rule, it's just something I've suggested before and got other staff to support (including Kenji-girl). It's probably a good idea to get to this written down properly somewhere (like [[Bulbapedia:Manual of style/Anime]]). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 16:20, 14 March 2015 (UTC)<br />
::::Thanks, I'll certainly keep it in mind for the future. Bringing it up in the MoS would be a good idea if you ask me, as while it is rather logical when you think about it, I think this is something other users might also easily overlook. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 16:23, 14 March 2015 (UTC)<br />
:::::Oh, and also, there's not much point moving it back now. The idea is that moving it then necessitates moving it back later if the dub name differs (like it often does). Since you've already moved it, moving it back would defeat the point (esp. if the name ends up the same in English). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 16:25, 14 March 2015 (UTC)<br />
::::::Figures. Might the dub name change anyway, I'll gladly help undo the Hoenn Watt's links. Luckily enough Watt was the only one called by name directly in the episode, so we won't have to wait a long time to obtain the dub name through some other source. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 16:29, 14 March 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Template:User sv ==<br />
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Hi I have noticed that the Template:User sv is grammatically incorrect or wrong word use or a bad litteral translation. I have posted a list on the [[Template talk:User sv|talk page]] about how I would like them to be please change them. Thank you --[[User:Raltseye|Raltseye]] ([[User talk:Raltseye|talk]]) 13:12, 27 April 2015 (UTC)<br />
:Done. Please check if I did everything right, since I don't speak Swedish myself. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 15:14, 27 April 2015 (UTC)<br />
::Thank you but not quite right yet, can you remove the av svenska in the end of them and place the svenska on the first one?: <br> Den här användaren talar '''[[:Category:User sv|svenska]]''' som '''[[:Category:User sv-N|modersmål]]''' <br> Den här användaren talar '''[[:Category:User sv-4|flytande]]''' '''[[:Category:User sv|svenska]]''' <br> Den här användaren talar '''[[:Category:User sv|svenska]]''' på en '''[[:Category:User sv-3|avancerad]]''' nivå <br> Den här användaren talar '''[[:Category:User sv|svenska]]''' på en '''[[:Category:User sv-2|ganska bra]]''' nivå <br> Den här användaren talar '''[[:Category:User sv|svenska]]''' på en '''[[:Category:User sv-1|grundläggande]]''' nivå <br> --[[User:Raltseye|Raltseye]] ([[User talk:Raltseye|talk]]) 07:43, 28 April 2015 (UTC)<br />
:::Changed it accordingly, I hope everything is alright now. Please check once more and let me know if it is or not. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 11:09, 28 April 2015 (UTC)<br />
::::Yes Thank you alot they look in order now Thank you once again I have checked them all they look good. --[[User:Raltseye|Raltseye]] ([[User talk:Raltseye|talk]]) 11:51, 28 April 2015 (UTC)<br />
:::::No problem, glad I could help out. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 11:55, 28 April 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Genders, standard procedure ==<br />
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I'm wondering about this standard procedure [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Kalos_Route_14&curid=184625&diff=2277105&oldid=2277101 you mentioned]. Is this a de facto or de "jure" (written somewhere, I mean) standard procedure? And is it specifically a standard for lists of Pokemon that appear in an area? (To my knowledge, this area listing of Pokemon is a new development, so it's a bit weird for me to think it has a "standard procedure".) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 18:22, 30 April 2015 (UTC)<br />
:It's an unwritten procedure as far as I know. With standard procedure I mean that it has always applied to pages of locations. Take [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Milos_Island this one] for example. Or [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Cremini_Town this one]. I have never questioned this way of doing things, as to me it's kind of logical. If there is a known gender, it should be added. And if the source for the gender is the fact that in the games the Pokémon can only have one gender, why should we deny that? Unless it's stated otherwise (which, to my knowledge, has never happened). <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 18:32, 30 April 2015 (UTC)<br />
::Oh. I've never really paid much attention to anime-exclusive locations, so I didn't know these lists were there. Looking at those, I realize it's actually not a big problem for me with something like Jynx, because I easily know Jynx are female, but Florges is one whose gender-lock I haven't likewise assimilated.<br />
::For me, if some Pokemon are indeed only one gender, then it's not like if you don't use a gender sign it suddenly means they ''can'' be either gender; logically they would be the only gender they can. And comparing such anime lists to the game lists of Pokemon, [[Kalos Route 4#Pokémon|Flabebe's]] and [[Cerulean City#Generation I|Jynx's]] genders aren't qualified there. And like I mentioned in my original edit summary, it can seem misleading. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 19:07, 30 April 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Uploading pictures ==<br />
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Hi, I would like to upload pictures especially for [[Team Rocket's mechas]] and [[Boss fantasy]] pages. Could you please tell me from which site do you upload your pictures (to have the best quality and not the channel's logo) ? Thank you in advance--[[User:LeoKetchumB|LeoKetchumB]] ([[User talk:LeoKetchumB|talk]]) 19:11, 8 May 2015 (UTC)<br />
:All images on Bulbapedia are uploaded via the [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Main_Page Archives]. You can log in with your Bulbapedia account. Uploading images is done with the "Upload media" button in the left menu. Any additonal information can be found in the FAQ, also in the left menu. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 19:17, 8 May 2015 (UTC)<br />
::Thank you but I already read all of it. I just want to know if you take yourself screenshots on any streaming website or if you take it from a specific website ? :) --[[User:LeoKetchumB|LeoKetchumB]] ([[User talk:LeoKetchumB|talk]]) 19:26, 8 May 2015 (UTC)<br />
:::I mostly take the images I upload from [http://filb.de Filb.de]. This site has a friendly relationship with Bulbagarden and it is allowed to take images from their site. And sometimes I take images from YouTube videos by using printscreen. Do keep in mind though that these will usually be blurry and of below average quality. Good luck. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 19:35, 8 May 2015 (UTC)<br />
::::Do you know the reason why it says "You do not have permission to create new pages." when I try to upload a file ? Being autoconfirmed on Bulbapedia doesn't mean autoconfirmed on Bulbagarden archives ? {{unsigned|LeoKetchumB}}<br />
:::::That is correct. You have to get autoconfirmed on the Archives as well. Since you can't upload images yet, you'll have to find summaries of images you can edit or improve, it's pretty much the only way. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 14:41, 10 May 2015 (UTC)<br />
::::::What are the requirements to being autoconfirmed on Archives : just wait a certain time ? (cause there is nothing to edit on the Archives). {{unsigned|LeoKetchumB}}<br />
:::::::As far as I know, the requirements to be autoconfirmed on the Archives are exactly the same as on Bulbapedia. The exact number of edits you'll have to make is just a secret. "There is nothing to edit on the Archives" is not true, in my previous message I already told you you can edit summaries of images that are in need of improvement or something else. It's just harder to find something to edit on the Archives than it is on Bulbapedia, that's all. And please, don't forget to sign your comments. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 15:14, 10 May 2015 (UTC)<br />
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==Traveler a villain?==<br />
If I may ask, why did you move him to the villains category? What changed? [[User:The Great Butler|The Great Butler]] ([[User talk:The Great Butler|talk]]) 02:44, 14 May 2015 (UTC)<br />
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==Episode Title==<br />
If you hit the translate button, you'll see the real title. The title is called "Challenge Pokémon Sky Relay! Flightless, Onbatto!! [[User:Seabiscuit2020|Seabiscuit2020]] ([[User talk:Seabiscuit2020|talk]]) 18:54, 19 May 2015 (UTC)<br />
:Even if there's a title, it's better to wait till someone has created a page on it before adding a link to it. Bulbapedia has a couple of translators and one of them will have to properly translate the title first (automated internet translators are usually very wrong) before there will be a page on it. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 18:57, 19 May 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Deletion ==<br />
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I made a page for Ash's Noibat a while ago but it was not used for the actual page. How do I delete the page now that is not going to be used?[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] 12:25, 11 June 2015 (UTC)<br />
:Only staff can delete pages. I just deleted the page for you, thanks for bringing it up. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 12:45, 11 June 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== In other languages ==<br />
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Is there no specific style as to how the other language info has to be written? I have been editing a lot of these sections recently and saw that [[Starly (Pokémon)#In other languages|sometimes punctuations have been used, and sometimes not]]. It looks completely random and really not very good. I'm not saying that we should go ahead and make scores of edits to just add some full-stops, but there has to be some rule regarding this so that they can be gradually changed over time. -<span style="background:#000000;"><span style="color:#FFA500"><font face="Old English Text MT">''[[User:Sher-e-Bengal|<span style="color:#FFA500">Sher</span>]]-e-[[User_talk:Sher-e-Bengal|<span style="color:#FFA500">Bengal</span>]]''</font></span>-</span> 16:55, 20 June 2015 (UTC)<br />
:There's no specific style or rule on it, other than the standard rule of adding punctuation where necessary. Feel free to add punctuation if it's missing anywhere. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 18:01, 20 June 2015 (UTC)<br />
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==User Problem==<br />
Could you keep an eye on {{U|Pika The Shiny Pikachu}}. This editor is apparently over-editing the same page and my recent warning regarding the preview button is the third warning which may suggest this user is ignore these warnings. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] ([[User talk:Tyler53841|talk]]) 15:25, 25 July 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Need a little help ==<br />
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I posted on the discussion page for XY084 earlier, and you sent me a link to the forum thread about the episode. I have lost the link, so can you send it again? btw I woke up before 4:00 am, and watched through Tamagotchi and Aikatsu before watching Pokemon. [[User:PunkyNerdJoshi|PunkyNerdJoshi]] ([[User talk:PunkyNerdJoshi|talk]]) 12:48, 20 August 2015 (UTC)<br />
:The link is still on your talk page. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 12:51, 20 August 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Deletion == <br />
Once again one of the pages I made for a Pokémon was not used, [[User:Rahl/Serena's Eevee]]. Could you please delete it for me. Thank you.--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 11:00, 24 September 2015 (UTC)<br />
:Done. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 15:52, 24 September 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Future episodes help ==<br />
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I wanted to do something for one of the episodes but it's locked. Could you unlock it for a moment and don't worry I'll write it hidden and won't show it.--{{unsigned|JasonL}}<br />
:Future episodes are locked for a reason, almost always to avoid speculation. As you [[User_talk:Force_Fire#Wondering|were told previously]], just wait until the episode finishes airing to post the information you wish to. [[User:ChE clarinetist|ChE clarinetist]] ([[User talk:ChE clarinetist|talk]]) 13:59, 21 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Time ==<br />
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Excuse me, Blasingfist. For the English version of Pokemon XYZ,can you change the time to 7:00? It's not on 8:00 anymore.--[[User:CoolPokeGuy|CoolPokeGuy]] ([[User talk:CoolPokeGuy|Talk]]) 14:02, 18 February 2016 (UTC)<br />
:Done. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 14:34, 18 February 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Town infobox needs to be updated to display "other generation maps" for ORAS ==<br />
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Hello! Currently "[[Template:Town infobox|Town infobox]]" doesn't display "other generation maps" if the original generation parameter is less than 3. I believe this is because of the code <pre>{{#ifexpr: {{{generation|1}}} < 3|</pre> in the infobox :) This means that Hoenn locations in ORAS do not display the "other generation maps" panel, which would be needed in order to show the previous version of the location as seen in RSE. I can't even try to fix it, because I don't have the rights to edit it. Can you take a look and see if just changing that 3 to 4 makes it work properly, or if there is some other solution? Thanks! [[User:Kidburla|Kidburla]] ([[User talk:Kidburla|talk]]) 22:46, 28 March 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Pokémon Land image ==<br />
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Just wanted to let you know that I uploaded a different version of the [[a:File:Pokémon Land.png|Pokémon Land]] image not too long ago, making it similar to [[a:File:EP017.png]]. It did look similar to [[a:File:Island of the Giant Pokémon.png]] on the Bulbapedia side as the server didn't sync it yet. [[User:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Patty</span>]][[User talk:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Man</span>]] 00:25, 29 May 2016 (UTC)<br />
:That's good, thanks! <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 00:33, 29 May 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Fan Made Pokemon logo in Romanian ==<br />
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Hi there ^.^! I made two logos for the new Pokemon games, Sun and Moon, in Romanian! I was wondering if they can be published on the Pokemon Sun and Moon page, something like ”Fan made Romanian logo for Sun” And ”Fan made Romanian logo for Moon”. Thanks ^.^ If you accept, please tell me how can I sent them :)<br />
Cheers! [[User:AlexBrs3|AlexBrs3]] ([[User talk:AlexBrs3|talk]]) 08:44, 4 August 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== ISO Codes: Albanian ==<br />
I'd like you to add the Albanian temple as I found some info about Albanian movie titles. Thanks! [[User:Pokessio|Pokessio]] ([[User talk:Pokessio|talk]]) 20:07, 28 August 2016 (UTC)<br />
:Alright, if you can link me the template, I'll see what I can do. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 18:11, 30 August 2016 (UTC)<br />
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==[[XY132]]==<br />
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The episode already aired and I would like to add some plot to text. Can you change it to already aired in Japan but not in the US. ([[User talk:Orange Mo|talk]]) 21:17, 20 August 2016 (UTC)<br />
:Uhh, XY132 hasn't aired yet. It will air coming Thursday. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 14:22, 21 August 2016 (UTC)<br />
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==XY Round Covers==<br />
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Hi I was wondering if I could donate my XY covers, which are a lot cleaner because it's a digital source image than a scan. [[User:Oneplusoneis2|Oneplusoneis2]] ([[User talk:Oneplusoneis2|talk]]) 15:51, 30 August 2016 (UTC)<br />
:All images must be uploaded over at the [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Main_Page Archives], so head over there if you've got images to be put on Bulbapedia. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 18:11, 30 August 2016 (UTC)<br />
::Ahh, okay thanks! I'm not an autoconfirmed user, so I can't seem to upload anything there just yet. [[User:Oneplusoneis2|Oneplusoneis2]] ([[User talk:Oneplusoneis2|talk]]) 03:09, 31 August 2016 (UTC)<br />
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==UB-01==<br />
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Heh, sorry. I was just trying to save you all the hassle of creating the page. Hopefully you guys can make the page better. :)<br />
[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User:OdieboyDuck I'm a duck. That's pretty much it. -OdieboyDuck] 13:16, 6 September 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Mainspacing ==<br />
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So are these articles good enough to be shown to the public? [[User:Lunaflaire/Chespie]], [[User:Satsjoe/Lysandre's Gyarados]], [[User:Charlie/Diantha's Gardevoir]], [[User:05308/Z2]]. --[[User:Reinhartmax|Reinhartmax]] ([[User talk:Reinhartmax|talk]]) 18:53, 15 September 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Hey ==<br />
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Hope all is going well with you. Could you log on Discord whenever you get a chance? '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">--Pokemaster</span>]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">97</span>]]''''' 19:45, 6 October 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== What do you mean "Like what?" ==<br />
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Magical Leaf and Razor Leaf are both possible options. We've seen in Generations that not all of the moves look similar to how the moves in the anime series look nowadays, so why can't it be either of those two moves as well? All if the move was, were leaves cutting Goldbat. The swirling storm like gust could have come from whatever move Goldbat was using. [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]]) 13:36, 19 October 2016 (UTC)<br />
:I already removed it after I realized there were also leaves when it used Leaf Blade. But preferably, please bring these matters up on talk pages first before removing it all together (something which I also should have done) instead of blindly removing or undoing something. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 13:43, 19 October 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Deoxys ==<br />
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We also need a picture of Deoxys using Shadow Ball in PG09. --[[User:Seabiscuit2020|Seabiscuit2020]] ([[User talk:Seabiscuit2020|talk]]) 18:53, 29 October, 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Champions in Pokémon Generations ==<br />
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Just like Lance, Diantha is never stated to be the champion. If we take her being on stage as confirmation that she is Champion because that's what she did in the games as champion, then shouldn't the same count for Lance when attacking Team Rocket? [[User:DanyyelTR|DanyyelTR]] ([[User talk:DanyyelTR|talk]]) 01:18, 24 December 2016 (UTC)<br />
:Diantha is on stage during the Lumiose City ceremony to celebrate the new Champion. That should be enough confirmation. And Lance isn't there because one of the Rocket Grunts in PG04 explicitly said: "It's Lance of the Elite Four". <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 01:21, 24 December 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Old Woman (Alola) ==<br />
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Sorry if I caused any trouble creating the page, just thought it might be worth creating.--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 20:44, 3 April 2017 (UTC)<br />
:You didn't cause any trouble. With characters who didn't receive a name it's best to ask a staff member if it's okay to create the page however, since they don't always meet the notability norm. Oh and please use the correct link templates, so for Old woman (Alola), use <nowiki>{{al|Old woman}}</nowiki> instead of <nowiki>[[Old woman (Alola)|Old woman]]</nowiki>. Thanks! :) <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 20:48, 3 April 2017 (UTC)<br />
::Wasn't really sure what the correct template was but I do now. I find my confidence growing and am contributing a bit more to Bulbapedia now.--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 20:49, 3 April 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::We've all been there, so don't worry. Hope you continue editing! <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 20:53, 3 April 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::Thanks, hope to receive some more cast lists from Lisa Ortiz soon--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 20:54, 3 April 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Giant ==<br />
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Should I add the link, [[Giant Pokémon]], as a reference in the [[Giant]] disambiguation page or is the page just for the two characters with the name? [[User:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Patty</span>]][[User talk:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Man</span>]] 02:59, 28 April 2017 (UTC)<br />
:Yes, Giant Pokémon should also be added to the page and I see that has already been taken care of. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 09:41, 28 April 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Porygon nicknamed Pokémon ==<br />
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I recently came across [[User:Blazingfist/Anime Pokémon with nicknames]], which was very helpful, but I think that it's missing a Pokémon. In [[EP038]], "Electric Soldier Porygon", Team Rocket temporarily use a Porygon referred to as "[[List of Pokémon temporarily owned by the Team Rocket trio#Porygon Zero|Porygon Zero]]". While this episode wasn't aired outside of Japan and I don't speak Japanese so I can't verify it, I think it's technically the first nicknamed Pokémon. Unfortunately, I don't have edit rights to the user namespace so I can't add it myself, but I thought I'd let you know. -[[User:Thunderforge|Thunderforge]] ([[User talk:Thunderforge|talk]]) 03:26, 3 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
:Thanks, I added it! <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 12:21, 3 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Squirtle at Oak's Laboratory ==<br />
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Before the photo sequence, Rotom had gone missing from the corral. By the end of the episode it said itself that it went on a journey to fill the Kanto Pokédex, without specifying where exactly was it wandering around. The Squirtle Squad photo being specifically taken at Oak's lab is pure speculation. --[[User:Gabo 2oo|Gabo 2oo]] ([[User talk:Gabo 2oo|talk]]) 05:29, 22 September 2017 (UTC)<br />
:I'd say that the photo being taken outside of Oak's lab is pure speculation. There was no indication it had left. Going on a journey to fill fhe Kanto Pokédex may have meant as well going on a journey through the Oak corral, as it has been established that the corral is pretty big and a lot of Pokémon species live there. So saying Rotom left the lab is more speculative than saying it was at the lab all the time. Unless you have direct evidence that Rotom left the lab (dialogue I may have missed or something else). Then please present this. Rotom going missing is no evidence as they had a lot to focus on and had to cut away to other characters. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 09:11, 22 September 2017 (UTC)<br />
::Fair enough. I didn't consider a "journey" through the corral could actually make sense; I associated it with going out and exploring the region, even though doing so in just one day makes little sense. On the other hand, registering all the Kanto Pokémon (sans Mew) in Oak's corral also makes little sense, but yeah, there's no clear indication that Rotom had actually left the lab. --[[User:Gabo 2oo|Gabo 2oo]] ([[User talk:Gabo 2oo|talk]]) 19:46, 22 September 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::I can definitely see what you mean, and Squirtle not being at Oak's lab would make a lot more sense, but since we can't say for sure and the episode took place at Oak's lab, we have to avoid that assumption. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 19:59, 22 September 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Spambot ==<br />
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I would like to bring the attention to you of four spam pages not yet deleted, all created by this spambot user [[Special:Contributions/Poojakumari|Poojakumari]]. Thanks. — '''[[User:Ruixiang95|<span style="color:#1E90FF;">Ruixiang</span>]][[User talk:Ruixiang95|<span style="color:#4B0082;">95</span>]]''' 18:52, 25 September 2017 (UTC)<br />
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==Lusamine's Pokémon==<br />
Hi, I had a discussion with {{u|Pumpkinking0192}} on {{ut|Pumpkinking0192#Lusamine's Pokémon|his talk page}} about whether Lusamine's Herdier and Clefable have evolved from the Lillipup and Cleffa that appeared in her family photo, because this was never explicitly stated. However, up until now, we have always assumed that character's Pokémon have evolved if the character later reappeared with the Pokémon's evolved form (for example May's Venusaur, Paul's Aggron, Alain's Metagross, etc.). Since this situation is basically the same as those, I don't see why the Pokémon's evolution can't be assumed. Since you're a staff member, I thought I'd ask for your opinion on this. [[User:Satsjoe|Satsjoe]] ([[User talk:Satsjoe|talk]]) 15:08, 21 October 2017 (UTC)<br />
:My apologies for the late reply, I have been kind of busy lately. I can see both sides of the story, really. It's true that until now, we have often assumed that a Pokémon owned by someone is the same as its pre-evolved form if they were both owned by that certain someone. However, I can also see Pumpkinking's side of the argument, as policies and ways of thinking have changed around here through the years. Perhaps it is time to review this way of thinking. Trainers in the anime can just as easily own both species seperately. Take Nando for example, who owns both a Kricketot and a Kricketune. It's just that Kricketune appeared first that we know he owns them both, but if it was the other way around we might have wrongfully assumed Kricketune had evolved from Kricketot. I do get where this way of thinking comes from, as it is curious in this case that both Cleffa and Lillipup appear in the picture when Lusamine owns a Clefable and a Herdier. But when it comes down to it, we're not 100% sure and are technically assumimg when we listed them as evolved from Cleffa and Lillipup. Therefore, long story short, I don't really have the answer right now. It may be a bit much to retroactively use this new way of thinking on every article where this is applicable (I'd truly hate to list May both owning a Bulbasaur and a Venusaur to be honest, even if that is technically assuming too), but there is certainly truth in this way of thinking. Perhaps it's best if this issue is discussed on a broader scale, as I'm not exactly in the position to make a decision on this. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 21:01, 22 October 2017 (UTC)<br />
:: Ah okay, well thanks for your response. [[User:Satsjoe|Satsjoe]] ([[User talk:Satsjoe|talk]]) 18:23, 24 October 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Userspace edits ==<br />
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Just in case, I'm also gonna say it here; I replied to you on my [[User_talk:KingisNitro]]. [[User:KingisNitro|KingisNitro]] ([[User talk:KingisNitro|talk]]) 00:35, 18 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Can you help me with this? ==<br />
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I recently ran into a potential mistake regarding a held item on a [[Pokémon World Tournament]] Pokémon, and I'd like to see if a mistake has been made regarding it. Since I'm shamelessly lazy, I'll just say that the problem is described on [[Talk:Type Expert Tournament/Ground|this talk page]], instead of describing it here again. Sorry. Since you apparently own a Black 2 Version, could you check this out for me? I also have the Unova sequels on my emulator, but I can't remember if I've unlocked the correct tournament in them yet. Can you check if there has been a mistake? Whichever way it turns out to be, thank you in advance. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 15:40, 7 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I'll see what I can do. Problem is, I sent pretty much all of my high leveled, competitively viable Pokémon in B2W2 over to later games. So I'm not well equipped to do the Tournament anymore in that game. But I'll see if I can still check it out later. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 15:56, 7 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
::I understand. No worries or rush. Take your time. Just please let me know when you've checked it out. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 16:24, 7 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Took me some time but I managed to find it out. Power Herb is correct, see [https://i.imgur.com/qwrsNus.jpg screenshot] for evidence. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 21:35, 7 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
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==Mainspace articles==<br />
Was wondering if you could check the candidates for mainspace on my [[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User:BigDocFan|page]] to see if any can be approved and if not, what I can do to improve them for approval.--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 11:05, 13 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
:That is something I need to discuss with other people, so I'll review them and then get back to you later. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 11:17, 13 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Thanks sir, I understand--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 11:21, 13 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Don't suppose you've heard anything back about it?--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 11:37, 10 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::I'm afraid not. You might have more luck contacting someone on the [[Bulbapedia:Editorial Board|Editorial Board]] as they are the ultimate authority on if something can be mainspaced or not. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 11:58, 10 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::Anyone in particular you could recommend? {{unsigned|BigDocFan}}<br />
:::::Since all your mainspace candidates are Anime-related, try Pokemaster97 <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 12:05, 10 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
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==Singaporean/Playerking95==<br />
Was wondering if you or another admin could deal with the continuing squabbles going on by Singaporean and Playerking95 over edits. They seem to disagree over what is best put so feel someone with authority should make it clear which is better--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 15:22, 26 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
:No need, Singaporean keeps making wrong edits, by deleting important information or making speculative guesses.[[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]]) 08:35, 28 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Sophocles's Charjabug ==<br />
Could its history of being used in SM054 be removed? It only attacked one Pokemon once and that's all it did. The whole scenes of Lana, Mallow and Sophocles battling were short enough, but Charjabug's appearance was even smaller. [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]]) 08:35, 28 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Notes for the Pokemon Gold and Silver Beta Page ==<br />
I found some more information on the MicroGroup Game Review Volume 14 Issue, which detailed Tyranitar and two unused Pokemon. Since I cannot edit it, I wanted to forward the interview with Ken Sugimori, along with a page that shows the Pokemon in full view;<br />
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/lostpokemon/images/5/5d/Cover_Artist_Interview.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20111216210259<br />
http://www.hairyticksofdune.net/dropbox/sugimori.html<br />
--[[User:Pichu Madman26|Pichu Madman26]] ([[User talk:Pichu Madman26|talk]]) 21:24, 3 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Thanks for sharing this, it's really interesting. There's not a lot in the interview that's useful for Bulbapedia however. We already have a better image in color of the beta Pokémon and the interview doesn't contain anything that's vital to add to any page. But again, thanks for sharing and if you find anything else feel free to send me. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 08:56, 4 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
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==SM083==<br />
Appears to be an edit war going on over the Plot Summary for [[SM083]] between PardescanSlowbro and FinnishPokéFan92. Was wondering if an admin could sort it out once and for all as I hate seeing edit wars--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 11:38, 28 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
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==Question==<br />
Could my Professor Kukui anime page be mainspaced sometime soon? I feel like he's been important in at least a few episodes and he's appeared in almost all of them. WithTapu Koko, as it has played a big role in a few episodes and will be fighting Necrozma soon and that seems like something important in this arc. As for Rapp's Zubat, I'm not sure if it fits the criteria, but it was heavily involved in SM001, SM025 and somewhat so in SM084. [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]]) 15:43, 23 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Rapp's Zubat, no. Kukui, maybe. But that's not something I can decide on my own, I will need to consult with other staff. I think you're better off directly asking Head of Anime abcboy to be honest. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 15:52, 23 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Okay, thanks. {{unsigned|Playerking95}}<br />
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==Air Slash==<br />
FinnishPokeFan responded in an edit summary on Air Slash's page by saying Oh, be quiet, because there isn't any confirmation on some of Lunala's moves from today's episode? Could something be done about that edit summary telling me to shush? He also added Psycho Cut as a move that Necrozma used, but for months or weeks Lusamine's page listed Absol as having used Psycho Cut but it turned out to be Razor Wind. [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]]) 13:26, 30 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:The user is also adding Flash Cannon back to Nebby's page? Shouldn't moves be mentioned through dialogue or captions? [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]]) 13:27, 30 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
::I have told Finnish not to talk to other users like that. Regarding the moves, I'm not reverting his edits as I want to wait what kind of reasoning he has for adding these moves first. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 14:34, 30 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== repeated name ==<br />
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hey i couldnt help but notice u repeated ur name on the forums twice on your user page in the third paragraph --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 10:38, 21 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Thank you for noticing. Fixed. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 10:01, 28 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
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==Voice Actors==<br />
Could you or another admin member change it so that 4 actors/actresses can be listed in the VA box, such as with [[Pikarla]] as Mika Kanai, Chika Fujimura, Kei Shindō and Hitomi Kikuchi are listed as voicing Valley Pikachu?--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 21:27, 7 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I'll see what I can do, thanks for bringing it to my attention. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 21:28, 7 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Thanks, I know it is rare for something like this to happen, it was only earlier this year the number went from 2 to 3--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 21:29, 7 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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==Thanks==<br />
Thanks for deleting my pages, decided to clear my user page a bit including pages that I barely use, have no need for or starting afresh.--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 18:38, 23 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:No problem, happy to help out. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 18:40, 23 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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==Golem==<br />
FinnishPokeFan recently deleted one of Golem's appearances from its anime section, even though it's listed on SM081's page. I need to know, what was the reason for that edit. [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]]) 16:22, 27 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I don't know, you should ask him yourself on his talk page. But the situation seems to be resolved now from what I can tell. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 16:28, 27 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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==Eevee, Where Are You Going?==<br />
GrammarFreak keeps adding Eevee above Trainer Pokemon for episode 1. Aren't Trainer Pokemon always listed at the top of the list, even if the recurring Pokemon are important? [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]]) 09:44, 28 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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:I feel putting Eevee lower on the list would be detrimental, since it's clearly the star of those shorts yet there's more emphasis on the Trainers' Pokémon. The cast lists should reflect that. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 09:53, 28 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Pokémon belonging to '''main characters''' always goes first, and then important recurring Pokémon. Pokémon belonging to unimportant, nameless characters go after that. GrammarFreak is correct here.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 11:47, 28 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Except that's not true and has never been the case. Every single page lists recurring Pokemon under nameless Trainers. Look at SM013, Bewear is clearly listed under normal Trainers. [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]]) 12:36, 29 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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==Pokemon Hierarchy==<br />
To Blazingfist and only Blazingfist: Don't Pokemon with Trainers always go above wild Pokemon? [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]]) 12:38, 29 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I agree with Force Fire, this is a special case. Eevee is clearly the star of its own "show" and to list it secondary to background Pokémon in the listings would be rather silly if you ask me. These shorts are very different from regular episodes anyway. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 13:05, 29 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Pokémon League Conference article pictures ==<br />
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Since you have been minorly involved in this I thought I would come to you about it. On the [[Pokémon League Conference]] article, the table shows images of the locations where the competitions take place. The pictures of the Indigo Plateau and Silver Conferences have been changed to just pictures of the main stadiums. I personally don't agree with this change because all of the other tournament pictures show all of the stadiums the competition takes place in. The old pictures of Indigo Plateau and Silver Town showed all of the stadiums for those conferences, but the new single stadium pictures don't. Thoughts? --[[User:HoennMaster|<font color="blue">Hoenn</font>]][[User talk:HoennMaster|<font color="green">Master</font>]] 19:48, 8 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Yes, I agree with you. The images should be representative of the tournament complex as a whole, not just one small part of it. If there's a good image of the entire complex, I don't see any reason why we should change it to an image of just one stadium. This is especially the case with the Silver Conference IMO. We use images for the entire complex for the Hoenn, Sinnoh and Unova leagues and not just the stadium that the finals are held in, why should that be different for the Silver Conference?<br />
:Although I will say a case can be made for the Indigo Conference. The image that was used for it was from the Battle Frontier saga and also showed the Grand Festival venues, so it wasn't ideal. I'm not 100% sure, but I don't think the old Kanto league episodes ever showed a clear shot of the entire tournament complex. So I'm saying a case can be made there, but on the other hand I'm also not against using the Battle Frontier image. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 19:57, 8 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
::I find your choice of words very interesting. First because you're saying the ''main'' stadium of the Silver Conference is "just one small part of it" when it's actually the place where most of the important battles took place and also the largest stadium by far. We don't even have images of the other stadiums and yet we're choosing to ignore the one image we have because other stadiums exist (!!!).<br />
::Second because you seem to think that we have a good image of the entire complex when we don't. What we have is an image of Silver Town and we can hardly see the other stadiums there. The very user who uploaded that image, FinnishPokéFan92, prefers to use the image of the main stadium judging by their edit to the Pokémon League Conference page.<br />
::Lastly, in your most recent edit summary in the Pokémon League Conference page, you said ''"Let's stay consistent: the Hoenn, Sinnoh and Unova leagues don't use final stadium images."'' which I'm assuming is a joke, because as I said [[User talk:Mikuri#League Stadium pictures|here]], that is the ''opposite'' of being consistent. We use images of stadiums rather than images of the hosting city. If you want to see the image of the hosting city, you click on the link below the stadium image and check its page. The League tournaments you mentioned don't use "final stadium images" because all of their stadiums are connected.<br />
::Also, I'd like to add that you were the one who added that table listing the Grand Festival tournaments to the Grand Festival page, and you ''did not'' use the Indigo Plateau image, you chose to use the image of the main stadium, I wonder why it's different now. But that's that on that. Just wanted to point out all of these inconsistencies. They're happening fairly often as of lately. Can you believe that earlier today I added the incomplete tag to a page created by the current head of anime? A page that has almost no content aside from the langtable. In the past the staff would move these articles to the userspace, but now the staff is creating pages with two sentences directly in the mainspace. Thanks for reading. --[[User:Mikuri|<span style="color:#2b915e;">'''Mi'''</span>]][[User talk: Mikuri|<span style="color:#52cc91;">'''ku'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Mikuri|<span style="color:#8debbc;">'''ri'''</span>]] 01:06, 9 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::First off, please change your tone. I find your tone rather condescending, and I have often found it to be this way towards other people. It's not helping you in the least. You're not some high and mighty person whose opinions are superior.<br />
:::Regarding your points: yes, and the central stadiums of the Hoenn, Sinnoh and Unova Leagues are also a small part of it, and yet we use the overview images. Yes, the other stadiums exist, and that's exactly why. They should be acknowledged. The League '''didn't''' take place in just one big stadium, it took place over multiple stadiums and the image reflects that.<br />
:::There's where we disagree, I do. It '''is''' an image of the entire complex. <br />
:::I disagree again, I think only doing the final stadium thing for two leagues and not three others is inconsistent. It's not a joke in the least, it's fairly rude of you to say so. I don't think your opinions are a joke, even though I disagree with them. I don't see what stadiums being connected has to do with anything. Either upload final stadium images of the Hoenn, Sinnoh and Unova league or don't. It's that simple.<br />
:::Yes, I did at that time, but my first priority was getting that template done and that Grand Festival image just used to be the main page image at that time. I don't really know about any inconsistensies. Maybe it's just things not going the way you want them to go. I can't speak for abcboy, and it's fairly unbelievable that you choose to backstab him via some unrelated discussion on my talk page. If you have a problem with him, bring it up with him, not me. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 07:21, 9 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::I am not the one acting as if my opinions are superior. There wasn't a single moment when I said ''"I '''personally''' don't agree with this"'' or a variation of that. Unlike HoennMaster who literally said that, word for word, I wasn't giving my own personal opinion, I was stating (and illustrating with examples) how things work (or used to work, I don't know anymore) around here.<br />
::::Regarding my tone, well, if you look at the three most recent discussions on my talkpage, you will see that I can be very nice and polite. But different situations call for different tones, and I am sorry if this discussion hurt your feelings.<br />
::::It doesn't surprise me in the least that you find the Silver Town image a good one considering all of the low quality images you uploaded to start [[User:Blazingfist/Anime competitions|this page]] (some of which now have newer, better versions uploaded by me). And just to clarify, I wasn't laughing at your opinions, but rather at your courage to argue that you're being consistent when you're not.<br />
::::Also, I wasn't backstabbing abcboy. If I had sent you a private message, sure. But this page can (and I'm sure it has) be read by him. Stabbing someone in the back means the person isn't looking, and this discussion is available for anyone to see. What I was doing is painting a picture, one that shows the staff as people whose actions are not consistent with how they expect other users to behave and with Bulbapedia's overall style.<br />
::::Please answer, was I lying when I said that starting an article the way abcboy started the [[Wind Festival]] one (if we can call that an article) would result in the user who started it receiving a warning on their talkpage, told to wait for more information, and having the page moved to their userspace? Is this not true?<br />
::::You said that my attitude isn't helping me at all, but when [[User talk:Force Fire#Need your help|I did ask for help]], I didn't get any response. Apparently because FF seems to think that [[Special:Diff/2821305|this kind of edit]] is doing wonders for Bulbapedia. Or perhaps because he is too busy doing [[Special:Diff/2875741|things like this]]? Because these are two great examples of quality edits.<br />
::::To further confirm what I'm saying about the staff being inconsistent, we have [[Weather trio|this page]] sitting at the pile of candidates for moving for over two years now because, [[Talk:Weather trio#Super-ancient Pokémon|according to Tiddlywinks]], we have to wait for Editorial Board approval when, in reality, EB member Ataro created the article [[super-ancient Pokémon (Adventures)]]. Don't you find that curious?<br />
::::The same Tiddlywinks [[User talk:Tiddlywinks#Battle Frontier articles|recently deleted]] the Battle Frontier articles even though the split had been approved by SnorlaxMonster. But I am sure that you're well aware of all of that because you said that you have found my tone to be condescending towards other people, so it can be presumed that you have seen these messages before.<br />
::::It seems as if I have changed topics, but when I joined this discussion I wasn't planning to get the Silver Stadium image back into the Pokémon League Conference page. You had already made your decision without waiting for a proper discussion to take place and ignoring, as did HoennMaster, the existing discussion on my talkpage. I was trying to shine a light on these inconsistencies, which I have accomplished. I'm hoping that you understand that instead of accusing me of backstabbing others. Thank you. --[[User:Mikuri|<span style="color:#2b915e;">'''Mi'''</span>]][[User talk: Mikuri|<span style="color:#52cc91;">'''ku'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Mikuri|<span style="color:#8debbc;">'''ri'''</span>]] 16:19, 11 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::This discussion didn't hurt my feelings in the least. But it's clear that you can be very dismissive of others and their opinions. Look no further than "I'm assuming is a joke" in your previous message. And you display this kind of attitude all over. I'm sure you can be nice as well, but that doesn't excuse your less favourable behaviour. I don't really care if you think my opinions or way of thinking are a joke, but it's no secret that a lot of people at Bulbapedia and Bulbagarden in general have autism, social anxiety, etc., and speaking so harshly to others can be hurtful to them. Take that as you wish. There's no problem with disagreeing with someone, but you can do so in a courteous, respectful way.<br />
:::::Not sure why you're bashing the images over at '''my''' userspace page that currently doesn't have a Mainspace tag to it. Seems rather petty of you to complain over that, but alas.<br />
:::::Alright, perhaps backstabbing was not the right word. But I still find it pretty weak to bring it up in an unrelated discussion on my talk page. You didn't bother to talk this over with abcboy on his talk page. I'm honestly not sure why you're rambling on about unrelated staff complaints in a message about some image. I'm just an Administrator so I'm not the one to solve broader staff complaints. If you feel something is wrong with Bulbapedia staff, talk it over with Kogoro.<br />
:::::I honestly have nothing further to say to you or to add to this discussion. I've said what I've wanted to say on the matter as a whole and in response to your message. My opinion hasn't changed and I have much better things to do currently than argue in long posts over some image (letalone staff complaints), so I won't reply any further, just so you know. For staff complains I'll redirect you to Kogoro and for discussion regarding the image, just start a talk page discussion and ask what other users think. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 16:47, 11 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::So judging by the messages you left on this discussion you have seen me treating others in a condescending manner for quite a while now but it never once crossed your mind to leave me a message on my talk page telling me to be nicer or something? It's only when it affects you directly that you felt the need to speak out and play the role of advocate for autism and social anxiety? Nice try but I'm not buying it.<br />
::::::I wasn't ''bashing'' your images. I was merely saying they're low quality, which is far from offering the harsh criticism the word "bashing" conveys. How easily offended can you be? Please select your words more carefully and don't attempt to paint me as someone I am not. First by saying I was backstabbing abcboy, then by implying I'm not considerate of others, and now this.<br />
::::::And please give me some credit. How clueless do you think I am? The section directly above this one has Playerking95 demanding to be answered by you and only you. The reason for this? Everyone and their grandparents know that staff members keep an eye on each others' talk pages. Staffers have meddled into several discussions outside their talk pages before, but oftentimes they will conveniently ignore some discussions like this one. Why should I copy and paste this into the talk pages of each of the users I mentioned? To be left on read by Force Fire again? To be told by Tiddlywinks that there's no great rush in solving a problem he created?<br />
::::::I doubt abcboy and the others haven't read this yet, but he hasn't replied because there's really no defending a two-sentence article. And whether or not you admit it, you know fully well I'm right, otherwise you would have answered the question I left in my previous message regarding this.<br />
::::::Answering or ignoring this is your choice, and I have no interest in continuing this discussion either, but I'm not going to sit and watch as you act all holier-than-thou and paint me as a backstabber inconsiderate who is bashing you. --[[User:Mikuri|<span style="color:#2b915e;">'''Mi'''</span>]][[User talk: Mikuri|<span style="color:#52cc91;">'''ku'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Mikuri|<span style="color:#8debbc;">'''ri'''</span>]] 22:49, 11 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::It's clear that you don't think very highly of me but no worries, the feeling is entirely mutual. As I said, I have no interest in further talking with you. Discuss your pent up staff frustrations with Kogoro. Bye bye now. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 22:57, 11 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
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==List of anime characters==<br />
Thought I would explain here, the List of anime characters page as it was listed Stufful twice, I deleted the one I added and kept the one you added.--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 11:27, 11 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Yeah I just noticed, didn't see that Stufful was listed twice. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 11:28, 11 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
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==Bloom Doom==<br />
I tried updating the anime section of {{m|Bloom Doom}} to include Rowlet's base moving being Razor Leaf or Seed Bomb given its usage in today's episode but a problem occurred. Grammarfreak undid my edit as he didn't know what to do so I thought I would ask an admin for help.--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 12:44, 18 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Hmm... not sure what went wrong with your edit. But no problem, it's fixed now! <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 14:41, 18 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Thanks, just been comparing how I did to the way you did it, I had the move but with only }} instead of }}}}--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 14:47, 18 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::I see, no problem. Mistakes happen. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 17:39, 18 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
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==Help==<br />
Its not letting me Upload images for Lets GO sprites, it says I don't have Permission, what do I Do? [[User:BrendanC|Brendan C]] ([[User talk:BrendanC|talk]]) 14:45, 18 November 2018 (UTC)BrendanC<br />
:I'm assuming you mean on the Archives? It's possible it's because you're not autoconfirmed yet. You can read it [https://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Archives:FAQ here], but what it basically means is that you will have to make a certain amount of edits on the Archives first and your account needs to have existed for a certain amount of time as well. Even I don't know how much edits you need to make or how old your account needs to be, but I'd suggest just looking around on the Archives and see if there's any image descriptions you can add something to or improve. Let me know if you need any further help. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 14:54, 18 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I've done work on the Archives, and been on it for a while, but still not autoconfirmed. I need to try and get these Lets Go Sprites Up. Thanks For the Help. [[User:BrendanC|Brendan C]] ([[User talk:BrendanC|talk]]) 17:34, 18 November 2018 (UTC)BrendanC<br />
::No problem, happy to help. Good luck on getting autoconfirmed! <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 17:39, 18 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== [[Trophy Garden]] edit war with FinnishPokéFan92 ==<br />
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Hi there! I recently added a section to the [[Sea Cottage]] article about the infamous Bill's Secret Garden rumour, which I felt was worthy of inclusion due to it being of similar infamy to [[the truck]] and [[Mewthree]]. After adding a trivia note to the [[Trophy Garden]] article about it being an apparent reference to the rumour, [[user:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] reverted this without discussion. After restoring this with an edit requesting discussion and adding a talk page discussion, FinnishPokéFan92 once again reverted this without engaging. I've reached out to FinnishPokéFan92 to try and settle this, but if we can't come to an agreement I'd appreciate if you can step in. It should be noted that I don't think they're trying to be disruptive - they did actually improve upon my additions to the Sea Cottage article. --[[User:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] [[User talk:Poppy Appletree|:3]] 13:12, 20 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:{{user|Force Fire}} has judged the rumor too minor to be notable. Sorry, Poppy. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 13:42, 20 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:: Once upon a time people actually ''talked'' to people before making unilateral decisions about things like this. This kind of action seriously degrades the collaborative nature of a wiki. For what it's worth, the rumour is in no way minor, and I've linked to several news articles mentioning it, and it's mentioned on dozens if not hundreds of fansites. --[[User:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] [[User talk:Poppy Appletree|:3]] 13:45, 20 November 2018 (UTC)</div>
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== The Preview Button ==<br />
Instead of editing a page several times in a row, try using the preview button to make sure your edit looks the way you want it to. It's right next to the Save Changes button... Please try it out, so as not to clog up the Recent Changes. Thanks! --<sup>[[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup>[[User:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">Jo the Marten</span>]]<sup>[[Flygon (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup> [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">ಠ_ಠ</span>]][[Cilan (anime)|<span style="color:#90C870;">♥</span>]] 10:16, 24 May 2012 (UTC)<br />
::You are absolutely right and most of the time I do use it, but sometimes I am just to hasty or in a rush. I need to take it easy sometimes lol. Sorry for that, I will be more careful from now on. [[User:Blazingfist|¡¡¡Blazingfist!!!]] 10:19, 24 May 2012 (UTC)<br />
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== Team Plasma article ==<br />
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I understand your reasoning, but I think it clear enough that the episodes discussed are unaired. Take this sentence, for example, "Team Plasma '''were initially''' set to debut...but the episodes '''were postponed indefinitely'''...". The rest of the "Behind the scenes" section also clearly and explicitly states that the episodes are unaired. In addition, clicking those links takes you to the articles for the unaired episodes. I don't think there's any confusion over whether it's talking about the aired or unaired episodes. [[User:Pokegen master|Pokegen master]] ([[User talk:Pokegen master|talk]]) 14:53, 1 March 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Ah well, I see you haven't undone it yet. Do as you like, however. I thought it might be a bit confusing, but if you think it isn't, go ahead an change it. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 15:27, 1 March 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::Ok. I didn't want to start an edit war, so I just came here. [[User:Pokegen master|Pokegen master]] ([[User talk:Pokegen master|talk]]) 18:54, 1 March 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Psst... ==<br />
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Rescue Team uses [[User:1ted59/template:User Pokémon Red and Blue R.T|this]]... <nowiki>{{User:1ted59/template:User Pokémon Red and Blue R.T}}<br />
</nowiki> [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] ([[User talk:Marked +-+-+|talk]]) 18:03, 30 March 2013 (UTC)<br />
:I had absolutely no idea what you were talking about until I took a peek at your usertags. Thanks for noticing. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 22:05, 30 March 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Vertress Conference ==<br />
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Where did you get six from? Also, the edit summary you put, I found it to be rude. [[User:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Patty</span>]][[User talk:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Man</span>]] 19:40, 20 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Sorry, I wasn't trying to be rude, I hate being or coming off as rude, but it seemed kind of obvious to me. Especially if you checked here: http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_episodes#Black_.26_White:_Adventures_in_Unova (scroll down, starting from ''[[BW103|Curtain Up, Unova League!]]'', then ''[[BW104|Mission: Defeat Your Rival!]]'', ''[[BW105|Lost at the League!]]'', ''[[BW106|Strong Strategy Steals the Show!]]'', ''[[BW107|Cameron's Secret Weapon!]]'', and lastly ''[[BW108|A Unova League Evolution!]]'', six episodes in total, which does in fact make it the shortest league. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ [[User:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Blazing</span>]]</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 19:45, 20 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
::I must have counted ''[[BW102|Team Eevee and the Pokémon Rescue Squad!]]'' by mistake. Anyway, I got seven since someone else who made the edit back then mentioned that ''Lost at the League!'' didn't count as a league episode. At least you told me that you weren't being rude (how i respond to it). By the way, thank you for fixing those new pages that I created of the missing characters of the day. [[User:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Patty</span>]][[User talk:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Man</span>]] 19:55, 20 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::Don't worry about it, those are just small mistakes that happen. I'll try being more polite the next time something like this happens. And that thing with those characters, don't mention it. I like doing that kind of editing stuff, I like creating missing character/location pages myself too and it is nice to see you found some characters that still needed a page <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ [[User:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Blazing</span>]]</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 19:59, 20 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Personality and characteristics ==<br />
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What was wroung my personalty and charactics on jessie frellish I did In 12years old I'm so confuse I watch this show in japAnses as well. I thought it was right and I wrought down on a paper about why did you take it off I'm not stupid I'm not that what i thought about her please tell me please I be you email catlovewillams@aol.com please unless can you fix it or can I send you my thing then you said you like i put it on [[User:Catlove|Catlove]] ([[User talk:Catlove|talk]]) 19:15, 6 May 2013 (UTC)catlove[[User:Catlove|Catlove]] ([[User talk:Catlove|talk]]) 19:15, 6 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
:It's nothing personal, or anything, it is because the grammar and spelling you used was very bad and almost unreadable. I perfectly understand English may not be your native language (guess what, English isn't my native language either) but remember, this IS an English encyclopedia, so at least basic level skills of the English language are wanted here. Also, you wrote some Pokémon names wrong. Try to improve your English a bit and read this: the {{bp|Manual of Style}}, it contains useful information about writing things here at Bulbapedia. Hope this clears things up. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ [[User:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Blazing</span>]]</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 19:27, 6 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Who's That Pokemon? BW115 engdub ==<br />
I just want to know is Watchog featured in english version of Who's That Pokemon BW115 o not?<br />
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:I have no idea actually. I haven't seen the episode, I only know it aired because a review topic of the episode was opened on the forums. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ [[User:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Blazing</span>]]</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 13:27, 1 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
Maybe it was Watchog after all. Oh well. Just wait until tomorrow. Pikachu65 13:31, 1 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
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And besides, Watchog has been scanned second time. In episode BW115. Pikachu65 11:48, 2 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Charizard ==<br />
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Hey I didnt say anything about the fact that they cant. The section I was pointed to said nothing but that. I was pointing it out. But if the dub says so then it is confirmed. I get saying it once or twice in an episode could be a mistake but if the official website states it, then it is confirmed. The Pokemon company here works close with the one in Japan, So I doubt that they would just make stuff up. All of the signs point to him as a male, he even looks male, unlike Charla, So I would say that it is in fact confirmed [[User:Black60Dragon|<font color="black">'''Black'''</font><font color="red">'''Dragon'''</font>]] 00:21, 9 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
:I'm going to reply here, to keep it in one place. It seemed like you said they can't, as you didn't make it sound like a quote. But anyway, that's not important. If the characters in the dub say so, it is not confirmed, as the dub is just a derivation of the original Japanese series. The original Japanese series is ultimate canon, as the series is made in Japan. So, if they don't refer to Ash's Charizard as male in the original Japanese episodes (which they don't), but they do in the dub, then it's not canon. And where does the official website state it? Could you provide a source? Lastly, "he even looks male, unlike Charla" isn't confirmation, just an opinion. Someone else could see that differently. As it is a policy, written in big red letters on the talk page of the article, it is better to leave it alone. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ [[User:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Blazing</span>]]</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 00:27, 9 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
::There is the Purrloin incident when Meowth traveled with the group. [[User:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Patty</span>]][[User talk:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Man</span>]] 00:33, 9 June 2013 (UTC)~<br />
::: ^ Which does indeed confirm that Pokémon of the same sex could fall in love which each other. For all we know Charizard ''is'' female. Now ''that'' would be a stunning revelation, if they decided to make that ultimate canon. But we don't know yet. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ [[User:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Blazing</span>]]</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 00:39, 9 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
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Still even if Japan is the ultimate cannon version, the American Pokemon company is just as reliable. Yeah the looking part is an opinion, I was just saying that. I mean Charla is a girl and looks like it. I dont see Ash putting Bows in Charizards hair, just saying. But honestly if the Dub says it it should be confirmed, as like I said, They work close together now. Sometimes you have to just take the clues and what the dub says and put it together. Every sign says he is just read them. But if I remember correctly the Meowth moment, he thought that Purrloin was a girl right? Which doesnt say much as he took it back. If that is the right moment. [[User:Black60Dragon|<font color="black">'''Black'''</font><font color="red">'''Dragon'''</font>]] 03:21, 9 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
:There's a note next the "Unknown" stating that it is male in the dub (hover over the asterisk to see it). But that doesn't mean it is a male in the Japanese version.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#025DA6">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#5A96C5">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EA1A3E">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#F16A81">ire</span>]] 04:35, 9 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Indeed, that note should be enough. It is referred to as male in the dub version, okay, but not in the original version. The Japanese language does not have gender pronouns. Which mean they can't refer to Charizard as male or female in the original version. Which means it could only be revealed by other means. Conclusion: we don't know if it is male or female in the original version right now, we do know it is male in the dub. The original version is the most important and should be noted first, and this is exactly how it is stated now in its infobox on its page. I don't see a problem. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ [[User:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Blazing</span>]]</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 11:45, 9 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Watari Island ==<br />
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Is that the same as Migration Island as the Pocket Monsters summary states? http://www.pocketmonsters.net/episodes/1498#Comments [[User:AeroWind|AeroWind]] ([[User talk:AeroWind|talk]]) 12:42, 13 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Yes, that's supposed to be the one. I keep regular track of summaries of episodes, and I believe it was called Watari Island at first and later mostly referred to as Migration Island. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ [[User:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Blazing</span>]]</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 12:48, 13 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Oh alright good to know. Thanks. [[User:AeroWind|AeroWind]] ([[User talk:AeroWind|talk]]) 12:49, 13 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Concerning the trivia in BW119 ==<br />
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It was the first time the first time the Genesect Army was shown in the anime, albeit only in a flashback, so I would think it would count as notable Trivia [[User:Weavilewarrior|Weavile Warrior]] ([[User talk:Weavilewarrior|talk]]) 23:47, 15 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Yes, but the main point you made was Genesect individually appearing for the second time in the anime. 1: The first time was a silhoutte, which is not counted as an appearance, 2: Something is not trivia worthy when its the second time, in this case Genesect appearing for the second time. <br />
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:Which brings me to the trivia about the Genesect Army, I'm not sure about that actually. But I'd still keep it as unnotable, as the Genesect Army, with a link to the corresponding page, is already listed under "Debut" on the BW119 page, that should be enough. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 23:52, 15 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:Okay, I'll fix the page --[[User:Weavilewarrior|Weavile Warrior]] ([[User talk:Weavilewarrior|talk]]) 23:58, 15 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== BW123 ==<br />
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I contacted {{u|Crystal Talian}} about the title, she said to wait until either a title card of the episode on TV, a DVD title card, or the official site posted the title of the episode before changing it. [[User_talk:Crystal_Talian#Cartoon_Network|Link to discussion]]. — [[User:Reshi643|<span style="color:#7038F8">Reshi</span>]][[User talk:Reshi643|<span style="color:#F08030">643</span>]] 04:14, 16 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Yes, I saw it just now, good you asked a staff member about this. While Cartoon Network is an official source when it comes to the Pokémon anime, they've also made terrible mistakes with dub names in the past, so they are not reliable for the full 100%. It think's it's indeed best the way it's done now. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 11:47, 16 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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Hi! Blazingfist, I tell you, I saw the title of the BW123 in www.cartoonnetwork.com in the program schedule last Sunday, and appeared well: Farewell, Unova! Setting Sail for New Adventures! . And if you now get to see the program schedule on Saturday will find the title as you point it out myself, nice talking to you! and no problem with writing in my page discussion :D bye! --[[User:1998gmo|1998gmo]] ([[User talk:1998gmo|talk]]) 18:55, 16 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Nice talking to you too :D Anyway, for now the page title has been changed back, I hope you understand, as it is not confirmed 100%. Also [http://www.locatetv.com/listings/cartoon-network#27-Jul-2013 this schedule] lists the title as just ''Farewell, Unova!'' (they misspell Unova as "Unvoa" though). Very weird, only time will tell what the real title is. But thanks for your input and research of course! <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 20:40, 16 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Harley's Cacturne ==<br />
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If Alexa's Helioptile and Gogoat don't count as Pokémon seen on Minori Island, what about Harley's Cacturne on Izabe Island since it made recurring appearances in other places? [[User:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Patty</span>]][[User talk:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Man</span>]] 16:12, 4 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
:I don't know about that, that should probably be removed too then. I always figured the "Seen on" section was for Pokémon that seem native on the island or owned by CotDs on the island. Anyway, if Gogoat and Helioptile are counted, should Pikachu, Axew and others not be included too to the "Seen on" section then. Just doesn't make much sense if you ask me. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 16:38, 4 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
::I usually count the debuts of the non-CotDs as Pokémon seen on the island. However, seeing your point, it would be best to remove them all. [[User:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Patty</span>]][[User talk:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Man</span>]] 18:03, 4 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Userspace policy ==<br />
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Please note that the {{bp|Userspace policy#Other users' pages|states}} ''Userpages are personal pages, and are not to be edited by other users unless prior permisson has been given. Instances in which this is permitted include, but are not limited to, broken links that appear on the wanted pages, duplicate images on the Archives, uncategorizing a userpage categorized in a category it should clearly not be in, reverting vandalism, etc.'' You violated that policy when you took it upon yourself to make [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User:Black60Dragon&curid=179308&diff=1951916&oldid=1951914&rcid=2087811 this edit]. You should have notified a staff member and let them take care of it, not try to correct them by removing the content yourself. Please keep this in mind during the future. Thank you. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">--Pokemaster</span>]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">97</span>]]''''' 02:28, 13 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Oh, I am very sorry. That was not my intention of course. I thought someone had forgotten to remove that, as that user didn't create that page, even admitted that him/herself. But I shouldn't have done that. Won't happen again. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 09:51, 13 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Sorting in categories ==<br />
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Personally, I prefer to use <code><nowiki>{{DEFAULTSORT:Juniper, Cedric}}</nowiki></code> over putting the same text in each individual category. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 17:00, 18 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
:And by that you mean? I'm sorry, a lot of anime character pages miss that Anime characters category, but if there's a better way than how I'm doing it right now, I'd like to hear it of course. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 17:03, 18 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Sorry, I was a bit vague there. For example, rather than putting "Davis, Alex" in all the category links like [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Alex_Davis&diff=next&oldid=1862452 this], I think it's a better idea to use DEFAULTSORT like [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Alex_Davis&diff=next&oldid=1954983 this]. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 17:06, 18 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::Ah ok, I get what you mean now. I did the former thing because that's how it was already on a lot of these pages, but I'll use the method you recommend then instead. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 17:08, 18 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== My Explanation ==<br />
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Hello, i'm PokeSerbia. I'm from the Serbia. I wanted that i'm not good at english lanaguage because i'm not native from the US/UK/Canada and i'm from serbia as my users suggest. I do wanted to improve my grammar, but i still had yet to do. I'm sorry for what i'm doing it for reason. I wanted to fix the plot but some of my bad grammar i'm you and others reverting because of my ignorance of Bulbapedia system.<br />
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For what i would, i wanted to add that the Panchau's species was originally Naughthy Pokemon but some users made share species and i wanted to add origin spescies was Naugthy Pokemon.<br />
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I'm very very very very very very sorry for my bad gramaar for i'm not native. {{unsigned|PokeSerbia}}<br />
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== Re: Uploading Pictures ==<br />
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In response to your message, as I explained before, I did in fact check the Archives for any answers I could find, but yet, none I found. Is there any other possible way to upload pictures? Whenever I do, it says:<br />
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Even though I actually do have permission to create pages, even though I don't want to create a page in this case in the first place, that's what I get whenever I want to add a picture :/ {{unsigned|MatrVincent}}<br />
:It's probably because you're not Autoconfirmed. As it says in the Archives FAQ under "How do I upload?", you need to have made a certain amount of edits on already existing files. Getting to edit your userspace on Bulbapedia works the same way as you may have noticed you weren't able to create your own userpage right away. The exact number of edits to be made to become Autoconfirmed is actually a secret. As I'm not active on the Archives myself I suggest sending a message to an Archives admin asking what you can help with or what files you could edit. <br />
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:Oh and it's important to sign your messages. This is done with typing four of these: ~ Happy editing! <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 03:08, 21 March 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Meyer/Blaziken Mask ==<br />
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Just an FYI in case you're not watching it. I've responded to your post [[Talk:Meyer#Merge with Blaziken Mask|here]]. Curious on your thoughts here. Granted, this might have already been discussed on the forum, which to me would be bad since it's a Wiki-related thing. Has this been discussed somewhere on-Wiki? [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 03:21, 22 March 2014 (UTC)<br />
:Thanks for letting me know. As far as I know this hasn't been discussed elsewhere. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 09:33, 22 March 2014 (UTC)<br />
::Ah, I see. Well, [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Bulbapedia_talk:Editor%27s_Hub#Blaziken_Mask.2FMeyer I started one]. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 15:32, 22 March 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Congratulations! ==<br />
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Congratulations! You finally became a Junior Administrator, keep it up on your hard work! Good luck! --[[User:Cinday123|<span style="color:pink">Cinday123</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:Cinday123|<span style="color:lightblue">Talk</span>]])''</small> 06:14, 24 March 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Discussion of Fennekin's Psyshock ==<br />
Where is this discussion going on cuz I can't find it. And, really, what other move could it be besides "Psyshock"? No other move fits the description, and we can't just wait until Serena uses Fennekin in battle because god knows how long will it take..--[[User:Omojuzeforever|Omojuzeforever]] ([[User talk:Omojuzeforever|talk]]) 16:35, 27 March 2014 (UTC)<br />
:The discussion is not taking place here on Bulbapedia. I've talked it over with G50 who is a Senior Administrator and we've both come to the conclusion that it's wise to leave it unconfirmed for now. I'm sorry, but if we went by everything that isn't called out directly we would be making a lot of assumptions and Bulbapedia wouldn't be a very trustworthy place. Maybe the higher staff will still decide to consider it confirmed as being Psyshock, but if not, we'll just have to wait to a future instance where the move is directly commanded by Serena, unfortunately. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 16:42, 27 March 2014 (UTC)<br />
::Ok, got it.. Fair enough, just saying that its pretty clear that the move was Psyshock, but I guess we can wait.--[[User:Omojuzeforever|Omojuzeforever]] ([[User talk:Omojuzeforever|talk]]) 16:51, 27 March 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Good News ==<br />
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Refer to the Meyer/Blaziken Mask discussion above.<br />
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We're good for a merge. Just chatted with [[User:Force Fire]] over on his talk page about it and he confirms we're clear now to go ahead and merge it. Before doing so, I wanted to see some of your opinions on going about the merge. I'm headed to bed right now and don't think I'd be able to do a complete job in my present state of mind, but I will be looking at it in the morning while I'm stationed at home for a while before I take off for the afternoon and already have some ideas for it.<br />
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If I don't see you respond by morning (which is fine, maybe you're in bed too), I'll go ahead and put my ideas into practice and you can still contribute after the fact. I merely wanted to ask your thoughts now, while I'm asleep, before going ahead, and would take that into consideration. =) [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 05:16, 28 March 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Siebold's Mega Blastoise's Ability ==<br />
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Could you clarify [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Siebold&diff=2102675&oldid=2102674 this]? I didn't quite get your summary. --'''<span style="text-shadow:grey 0.1em 0.1em 0.1em; font-size:110%">[[User:Det|<span style="color:gold">D</span><span style="color:orange">e</span><span style="color:red">t</span>]][[User talk:Det|<sup><font color="white">talk</font></sup>]]</span>''' 14:21, 14 April 2014 (UTC)<br />
:Yes I can. Even if it's obvious a Pokémon has a certain Ability because it's the only one it has (like with Mega Blastoise), we still notice it. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 14:24, 14 April 2014 (UTC)<br />
::Have it your way. --'''<span style="text-shadow:grey 0.1em 0.1em 0.1em; font-size:110%">[[User:Det|<span style="color:gold">D</span><span style="color:orange">e</span><span style="color:red">t</span>]][[User talk:Det|<sup><font color="white">talk</font></sup>]]</span>''' 14:26, 14 April 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== I think we collectively broke a talk page ==<br />
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[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Favocado&action=history Just step through the diff pages....] [[User:Schiffy|<span style="color:DarkGreen">Schiffy (瀬藤健二)</span>]] ([[User talk:Schiffy|<span style="color:#FF6600">Talk</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|<span style="color:#FF0000">Contribs</span>]]) 20:08, 4/18/2014 (UTC)<br />
:I noticed that. I'm pretty sure that was a result of both clicking the save button, doing the same thing, at the exact same moment. Nothing to worry about I guess, the page itself doesn't seem broken. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 20:12, 18 April 2014 (UTC)<br />
::I suppose it's not... just.... oy vey. [[User:Schiffy|<span style="color:DarkGreen">Schiffy (瀬藤健二)</span>]] ([[User talk:Schiffy|<span style="color:#FF6600">Talk</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|<span style="color:#FF0000">Contribs</span>]]) 20:13, 4/18/2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Officer Jenny and Nurse Joy ==<br />
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I've been reconstructing [[Officer Jenny]]'s and [[Nurse Joy]]'s pages a bit. Could you assist me on completing them as you can do one arc and I could do the other? [[User:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Patty</span>]][[User talk:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Man</span>]] 03:57, 30 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
:Sure, I'll see what I can do. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 09:37, 30 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Movie characters category ==<br />
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Hey Blazingfist, I just added the {{cat|Anime characters}} category into the {{template|moviecharacters}} template, so there will be no need to add said category to each individual page. The only issue one might have with this is if we don't consider the movie Pokémon to be under that category; if that's the case, you could revert my edit. Just thought I'd let you know. [[User:Ht14|<span style="color:#FF1111"><sup>'''''ht'''''</sup></span>]][[User talk:Ht14|<span style="color:#11BB11"><small>''14''</small></span>]] 15:58, 12 June 2014 (UTC)<br />
:Thanks for bringing this up, I had no idea to be honest. But I'm checking some pages I haven't done yet and the anime characters category doesn't show up with some. Maybe it takes some time but I'll check later if any pages still need it. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 16:00, 12 June 2014 (UTC)<br />
::Haha, I just put it up once I noticed what you're doing, specifically with the movie characters, so you're right, it will take some time. Just remove the category for the movie characters; sorry for having to make you edit those pages again ^^; As a side note, the default cat thing you removed... it's so weird that it's there in the first place... [[User:Ht14|<span style="color:#FF1111"><sup>'''''ht'''''</sup></span>]][[User talk:Ht14|<span style="color:#11BB11"><small>''14''</small></span>]] 16:03, 12 June 2014 (UTC)<br />
:::I see. Dang, now I'll have to undo everything >.< I'll get to that later. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 16:05, 12 June 2014 (UTC)<br />
::::I mean, I could do it instead if you'd like; it's just that I don't want to interrupt your flow, that's all. [[User:Ht14|<span style="color:#FF1111"><sup>'''''ht'''''</sup></span>]][[User talk:Ht14|<span style="color:#11BB11"><small>''14''</small></span>]] 16:07, 12 June 2014 (UTC)<br />
:::::If you don't mind, that'd be good. I have other things to do soon anyway. But make sure not just to hit the undo button with every page, since I also removed these Defaultsort things on some pages that were definitely not needed. Thanks! <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 16:10, 12 June 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Berry baker kids ==<br />
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I placed the {{template|unknown name}} template of the [[Berry baker kids]] page because they weren't given real names such as Emily, Brad, Alan, and so on. To me, berry baker kids sounds like an occupation they're being referred to. [[User:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Patty</span>]][[User talk:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Man</span>]] 01:39, 30 June 2014 (UTC)<br />
:To me it seems more like the name of their "baking group", rather than an occupation. Anyway, the dubbers decided to use this in place of "Toraya siblings", so it should be treated as the official name. The {template|unknown name}} would imply they have no known name at all, which isn't true, since they were referred to as this in the episode. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 10:02, 1 July 2014 (UTC)<br />
::Ok then. As for the Nurse Joy an Officer Jenny pages I posted above, you can fix the wording and stuff if you find some of it not making sense. [[User:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Patty</span>]][[User talk:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Man</span>]] 01:00, 2 July 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Heroes - Friends and Faux Alike! ==<br />
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Hello, I saw you reverted my edit in [[XY030]] by putting the English name of the previous episode instead of the "XY029" epicode. As I explained in the edit summary, the English name shouldn't be put if its a Japan-only event (in this case, the one-hour special), but rather just the epicode. I'd like to know if there's there any reason to put the English title again, since you might have not been aware of that, or I could be as well wrong. --[[User:Gabo 2oo|Gabo 2oo]] ([[User talk:Gabo 2oo|talk]]) 20:08, 7 July 2014 (UTC)<br />
:My apologies, I didn't check the history so I didn't even notice you had undone anything. Well, [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_anime_specials#Main_series all the other couple of episodes that aired right after each other] do have the dub title even if they aired only together in Japan. I automatically deduced this was the right thing to do for XY029 and XY030 as well. Personally it weirdens me if only the epicode is shown on a page that represents both the original version and the dub, unlike when it's on a page that's original version only like for a Japanese opening or ending. But perhaps you're right, since it ''does'' refer to something that applies to the original version only. Perhaps it's best to ask a higher-up admin about this as I'm not completely sure. In any case, if the latter applies then all the other dub titles on pages of episodes that didn't air together in the English dub should be removed as well. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 20:27, 7 July 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Signature ==<br />
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Well, the current signature is just in part where I only used the "R", referring to the 超龍's signature. [[User:KyleRGiggs|Raymond]] 05:54, 24 July 2014 (UTC)<br />
:Sorry, but your signature doesn't link to your userpage. Please make part of it link to your userpage. (This message has nothing to do with the one above. I thought it would be better if I put it in this section instead of creating a new one with the same name.) [[User talk:Player3.25|Brought to you by]] [[User:Player3.25|player 3.25]] 16:24, 25 July 2014 (UTC)<br />
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==How to make new pages==<br />
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Look,blaze.I'm Sladoled and literally the only reason I've joined bulbapedia is to make an article on Conway's Slowking.Could you clarify to me how to do it? {{unsigned|Sladoled}}<br />
:You can only create pages once you're autoconfirmed. You'll become autoconfirmed once your account has been active for a while and once you've made a certain amount of edits (the exact number is a secret). That being said, Conway's Slowking is not deemed notable enough for its own article. It only had a couple of appearances and didn't show enough personality. In fact, other users have made pages for it before, but they were deleted by the Staff. Still, there are enough other things you can do on Bulbapedia. Check what [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Special:WantedPages Wanted Pages] there are for example. There are also articles that are too short, so-called [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Category:Stubs Stubs]. Then we have [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Category:Articles_needing_improvement articles needing improvement], and [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Category:Articles_needing_more_information articles needing more information] (in the latter, it's usually a short bit of information that's missing). Enjoy your time here and I wish you good luck finding things to edit on Bulbapedia. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 10:19, 1 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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Thanks for the help blaze,and I think that [[p|Slowking]] has shown more personality than pokémon like [[Sakura's Espeon]] and you should really consider letting the article exist.Just for the sake of awesome. {{unsigned|Sladoled}}<br />
:You're welcome. Check [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Bulbapedia:Anime_Pok%C3%A9mon_Notability_policy#Notability_requirements this] to see what requirements a Pokémon needs to get an own page. In the section I linked, especially check point 3. While Slowking may be considered Conway's signature Pokémon, it didn't have any major impact in the episodes it appeared in or in the series as a whole. Sakura's Espeon did, and this is why it does have a page and Conway's Slowking does not. Also, please remember to sign your comments. You do this by leaving four tildes like this: <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. Finally, you linked to Slowking's page like this: <nowiki>[[p|Slowking]]</nowiki>. The correct way is <nowiki>{{p|Slowking}}</nowiki>. In the future, please use the latter when linking to Pokémon. Thanks. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 11:14, 1 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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Thanks, I really appreciate the help. I promise to help out a lot. [[User:Sladoled|Sladoled]] ([[User talk:Sladoled|talk]]) 20:24, 1 August 2014 (UTC)Sladoled<br />
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== Elite Four Members and Champions ==<br />
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Hey Blazingfist,<br />
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I'm not trying to be rude, but I've got a question. On the Elite Four page, it lists that Ash has met Lance. I edited it awhile back, adding that Ash has met Diantha. Lance is listed as a Champion on the aforementioned page, so why doesn't it count that Ash met Diantha in ''[[XY028|The Bonds of Evolution!]]''? {{unsigned|WATERWARRIOR67}}<br />
:It's because that page lists Lance as Elite Four. I know it's a bit confusing, but back in Gen I Lance was of course still Elite Four. That page counts Lance as being part of the Gen I Elite Four too (even though he was referred to as a Champion in the episodes he appeared in). Also a reminder, please sign your comments. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 10:05, 5 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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Okay, thanks for the clarification and reminder! [[User:WATERWARRIOR67|WATERWARRIOR67]] ([[User talk:WATERWARRIOR67|talk]]) 13:36, 5 August 2014 (UTC)WATERWARRIOR67<br />
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== Trivia ==<br />
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On the Rota page, I was guessing. I wasn't really awake when I typed it. I meant to type that it shares its name with the island of Rota, considering it's a real place. I don't know how I keep screwing the simple things up. [[User:WATERWARRIOR67|WATERWARRIOR67]] ([[User talk:WATERWARRIOR67|talk]]) 17:10, 9 August 2014 (UTC)WATERWARRIOR67<br />
:I undid your edit there because I really doubt that's where they got the name Rota from. It sharing the name of a real-life island can also be a coincidence. If the real-life Rota were a medieval-themed town with a castle, yes then it would've been very likely to be the name origin. Since it's a tropical island instead, I really doubt it. Be aware that a lot of the trivia you've added over the past few weeks has been removed, for the simple reason these bits of trivia were not notable enough, or too unfounded. Before you add trivia, always ask yourself if it's notable enough or if the trivia is actually true or based on loose thoughts instead. If you're really not sure, you can always propose the trivia on the talk page of the page you want to add the trivia to, so others can decide if it is indeed notable enough. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 17:22, 9 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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One, I wish that were the case with Rota; I'm really into history and cultural stuff like that. Two, what do you mean by too unfounded. And three, by "others", who do you mean? {{unsigned|WATERWARRIOR67}}<br />
:With unfounded I mean that a lot of the trivia you've come up with so far has been very doubtful. Like characters being named after singers or bands, or a medieval town like Rota being named after a real-life tropical island. A lot of them seemed to be based on loose thoughts rather than factual information or likeliness. It's best to only add trivia if it's completely factual or at least very likely. Other trivia you added simply wasn't notable enough. That's why I said you could bring your trivia additions up on talk pages before you add them, just to be sure it's noteworthy, or plausible. With others I simply mean other users. And you've been told before, but please sign your comments. Thanks. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 23:57, 9 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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==Misty==<br />
Might want to check out the last few edits to [[Misty]] by {{u|Spluff5}}. A number of team alterations that don't look immediately wrong, but seeing as their first edit to the page was replacing one set with information from a fake game (which they then reverted), I'm incredulous. <small>[[User:Glik|glik]]</small><sup>[[User talk:Glik|glak]]</sup> 20:38, 19 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
:I had my doubts too, but the thing they did with changing Corsola into Quagsire is actually correct; Misty ''does'' have a Quagsire, and not a Corsola in her HGSS rematch team. I'm still not sure about the other info they added such as the moves and items, but I'll check if that is correct or not. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 20:48, 19 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Dub titles ==<br />
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How come XY036's title was dub title was deleted it was from a legible source:<br />
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http://www.tvinfo.de/fernsehprogramm/245310938-pokemon-die-tv-serie-xy<br />
And no air dates were provided.{{unsigned|Pichu911}}<br />
:Because Adyniz, who is a Bureaucrat here and watches over the dub title reveals, has said we have to consider these two unconfirmed for now. Bulbapedia is unfamiliar with this source. What if we add all those titles now and they don't turn out to be true? That would be a mess, and this has happened before (I speak out of experience). The official CN schedule with the titles for the month of September should come within 10 days, so let's just wait for that and then we'll see if they turn out to be true. And please sign your comments. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 09:52, 22 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Tricks to bypass the CDN cache ==<br />
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Please do not use the "trick" of changing the image size by one pixel to force the CDN to change the image. Images will update when they update, and should not be forced wiki-side. - [[User:Kogoro|'''<span class="sc" style="color:#DA70D6;">Kogoro</span>''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''<span class="sc" style="color:#FFB6C1;">Talk to me</span>''']] - 22:53, 6 September 2014 (UTC)<br />
:My apologies, I did go overboard with this. It won't happen again. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 22:56, 6 September 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Clemontic Gear ==<br />
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Hello, you commented on the picture for the Motivation Machine that it would be better to wait until a confirmation of the names before uploading, so it wouldn't be necessary to move it later. I suggest that, instead of that, we could just name them "Clemontic Gear XYxxx" temporarily, but instead of moving it to a translation of its Japanese name, we could wait until the dub version to air and ''then'' move it to its English name. I believe this could save work and time, all while we could still list the Japanese names and translation on the article itself.<br />
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Also, is there any specific requirements for userspace articles to be moved to the main space? Because your page is pretty good and I'm worried if its moving stretches out too long. I mean, there are articles like [[User:HoennMaster/N's Hideout|N's Hideout]] that still haven't been moved to mainspace, even if by now, the information is not as required as it would have been back in the day when it first appeared. I wouldn't want that to happen to the Clemontic Gear page, specially since I haven't really seen any discussion about articles that should be moved to mainspace.<br />
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By the way, I have a doubt about [[a:File:OPJ17 2.png|the ''Mega Volt'' opening header picture]]. As you can see by its history, I had a little edit war with Ataro (yes, I'm sorry about that, it wasn't called for), since he said that due to the title of the opening, we should use a picture that has something "Mega" on it, instead of the screenshot I considered better. The thing is, leaving that aside, said "Mega" header picture isn't used anymore in the opening sequence, as it was replaced along with other scenes. Is it okay if the head picture for the opening is from a scene that isn't used on it? I ask because we could use that picture in our usual "Variant" section instead, and I asked Ataro about this on his talk page, but he didn't seem to answer me. --[[User:Gabo 2oo|Gabo 2oo]] ([[User talk:Gabo 2oo|talk]]) 23:42, 15 October 2014 (UTC)<br />
:I think that might be a better idea indeed, as you're right having to move from Japanese to dub is also kinda unnecessary moving. Fine with me.<br />
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:I don't know the specific requirements for it to be moved to the mainspace. I think in most cases, or at least the most important ones, the Editorial Board has the final say. But sometimes it might also be any higher-up admins who make the decision. I'd also see it moved rather soon, I'll bring it up on the talk page.<br />
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:I'm not sure if I should participate in this discussion, also because I'm only a Junior Admin on Bulbapedia, not on the Archives, so I have little to say there. My advice is to still bring it up with Ataro, and if he doesn't respond maybe send him a reminder. And otherwise you should bring it up with Kogoro. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 10:07, 16 October 2014 (UTC)<br />
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==A Question on Creating Pages==<br />
Hi, I'm new (It took me a while to find the edit button...) and I just have a quick question. How long after creating an account must you wait until you are allowed to create a page? I'm itching to create one that (surprisingly) doesn't even exist yet! Thanks, hjk321 14:22, 16 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
:Hello hjk321. First off, welcome to Bulbapedia. If you have problems finding things out around here, I'd suggest having a look at the [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Bulbapedia:FAQ FAQ]. But asking another user is always a good idea too of course. To answer your question: you need to make a certain number of edits, and your account must have been registered for a certain while. For both requirements I don't know the exact numbers, as this is a secret known by only a few. I'd suggest just to start editing. The numbers to meet those requirements shouldn't be too high. Just edit away and eventually you'll become autoconfirmed, which means you'll be allowed to create pages, among other things. To give some ideas as to what you could edit, I'd suggest checking out the [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Bulbapedia:Editor%27s_Hub Editor's Hub]. Also check out the [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Bulbapedia:Manual_of_style Manual of Style]. The latter is a good guide on general editing. If you have an idea for a page, it's always a good idea to create it in your userspace first. If it is deemed complete and Bulbapedia-worthy, it can be mainspaced. But, to create your userspace you need to become autoconfirmed as well. If you have any further questions, don't hesitate to ask them to me, or any other staff member. I'd be happy to answer. Have a good time around here, and happy editing! <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 17:04, 16 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Luxio's English dub VA Help ==<br />
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Do you know who voiced Clemont's Luxio in the English version? I thought it was Sarah but ForceFire said it's not. Could you help find out who it is? I'm didn't get any luck finding who it is. --JasonL 14:01, 7 March 2015 (UTC) [[User:JasonL|JasonL]] ([[User talk:JasonL|Talk]])<br />
:I'm sorry, I have no idea. I'm not the right person to ask about voice actors. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 14:14, 7 March 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Crunch typo ==<br />
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Your Salamence appears to have a typo with the move {{tt|Crunch|spelled as Crucnh}}. I would have done it but seeing that you are active on the 'pedia, I'm leaving it to you. [[User:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Patty</span>]][[User talk:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Man</span>]] 23:40, 11 March 2015 (UTC)<br />
:Whoops, thanks! I did preview, but I must have overseen it. I'll fix it right away. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 23:57, 11 March 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Watt's move ==<br />
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I was informed by SnorlaxMonster before that we shouldn't be moving pages if a character's dubname is the same as a later character's Japanese name since the dub name of said later character may be different and moving them back would be a lot to handle. The move of Hoenn's Watt is an example as it was moved too early. I went ahead and added a move tag to Hoenn's Watt. [[User:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Patty</span>]][[User talk:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Man</span>]] 15:59, 14 March 2015 (UTC)<br />
:Oh, I was never aware of that rule. Then it should be moved back I guess. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 16:01, 14 March 2015 (UTC)<br />
::Indeed, I too wasn't aware about it at first. These things happen, nothing personal. :) [[User:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Patty</span>]][[User talk:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Man</span>]] 16:10, 14 March 2015 (UTC)<br />
:::I was going to bring this up, but looks like you already know. It's not really a formal rule, it's just something I've suggested before and got other staff to support (including Kenji-girl). It's probably a good idea to get to this written down properly somewhere (like [[Bulbapedia:Manual of style/Anime]]). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 16:20, 14 March 2015 (UTC)<br />
::::Thanks, I'll certainly keep it in mind for the future. Bringing it up in the MoS would be a good idea if you ask me, as while it is rather logical when you think about it, I think this is something other users might also easily overlook. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 16:23, 14 March 2015 (UTC)<br />
:::::Oh, and also, there's not much point moving it back now. The idea is that moving it then necessitates moving it back later if the dub name differs (like it often does). Since you've already moved it, moving it back would defeat the point (esp. if the name ends up the same in English). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 16:25, 14 March 2015 (UTC)<br />
::::::Figures. Might the dub name change anyway, I'll gladly help undo the Hoenn Watt's links. Luckily enough Watt was the only one called by name directly in the episode, so we won't have to wait a long time to obtain the dub name through some other source. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 16:29, 14 March 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Template:User sv ==<br />
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Hi I have noticed that the Template:User sv is grammatically incorrect or wrong word use or a bad litteral translation. I have posted a list on the [[Template talk:User sv|talk page]] about how I would like them to be please change them. Thank you --[[User:Raltseye|Raltseye]] ([[User talk:Raltseye|talk]]) 13:12, 27 April 2015 (UTC)<br />
:Done. Please check if I did everything right, since I don't speak Swedish myself. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 15:14, 27 April 2015 (UTC)<br />
::Thank you but not quite right yet, can you remove the av svenska in the end of them and place the svenska on the first one?: <br> Den här användaren talar '''[[:Category:User sv|svenska]]''' som '''[[:Category:User sv-N|modersmål]]''' <br> Den här användaren talar '''[[:Category:User sv-4|flytande]]''' '''[[:Category:User sv|svenska]]''' <br> Den här användaren talar '''[[:Category:User sv|svenska]]''' på en '''[[:Category:User sv-3|avancerad]]''' nivå <br> Den här användaren talar '''[[:Category:User sv|svenska]]''' på en '''[[:Category:User sv-2|ganska bra]]''' nivå <br> Den här användaren talar '''[[:Category:User sv|svenska]]''' på en '''[[:Category:User sv-1|grundläggande]]''' nivå <br> --[[User:Raltseye|Raltseye]] ([[User talk:Raltseye|talk]]) 07:43, 28 April 2015 (UTC)<br />
:::Changed it accordingly, I hope everything is alright now. Please check once more and let me know if it is or not. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 11:09, 28 April 2015 (UTC)<br />
::::Yes Thank you alot they look in order now Thank you once again I have checked them all they look good. --[[User:Raltseye|Raltseye]] ([[User talk:Raltseye|talk]]) 11:51, 28 April 2015 (UTC)<br />
:::::No problem, glad I could help out. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 11:55, 28 April 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Genders, standard procedure ==<br />
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I'm wondering about this standard procedure [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Kalos_Route_14&curid=184625&diff=2277105&oldid=2277101 you mentioned]. Is this a de facto or de "jure" (written somewhere, I mean) standard procedure? And is it specifically a standard for lists of Pokemon that appear in an area? (To my knowledge, this area listing of Pokemon is a new development, so it's a bit weird for me to think it has a "standard procedure".) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 18:22, 30 April 2015 (UTC)<br />
:It's an unwritten procedure as far as I know. With standard procedure I mean that it has always applied to pages of locations. Take [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Milos_Island this one] for example. Or [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Cremini_Town this one]. I have never questioned this way of doing things, as to me it's kind of logical. If there is a known gender, it should be added. And if the source for the gender is the fact that in the games the Pokémon can only have one gender, why should we deny that? Unless it's stated otherwise (which, to my knowledge, has never happened). <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 18:32, 30 April 2015 (UTC)<br />
::Oh. I've never really paid much attention to anime-exclusive locations, so I didn't know these lists were there. Looking at those, I realize it's actually not a big problem for me with something like Jynx, because I easily know Jynx are female, but Florges is one whose gender-lock I haven't likewise assimilated.<br />
::For me, if some Pokemon are indeed only one gender, then it's not like if you don't use a gender sign it suddenly means they ''can'' be either gender; logically they would be the only gender they can. And comparing such anime lists to the game lists of Pokemon, [[Kalos Route 4#Pokémon|Flabebe's]] and [[Cerulean City#Generation I|Jynx's]] genders aren't qualified there. And like I mentioned in my original edit summary, it can seem misleading. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 19:07, 30 April 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Uploading pictures ==<br />
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Hi, I would like to upload pictures especially for [[Team Rocket's mechas]] and [[Boss fantasy]] pages. Could you please tell me from which site do you upload your pictures (to have the best quality and not the channel's logo) ? Thank you in advance--[[User:LeoKetchumB|LeoKetchumB]] ([[User talk:LeoKetchumB|talk]]) 19:11, 8 May 2015 (UTC)<br />
:All images on Bulbapedia are uploaded via the [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Main_Page Archives]. You can log in with your Bulbapedia account. Uploading images is done with the "Upload media" button in the left menu. Any additonal information can be found in the FAQ, also in the left menu. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 19:17, 8 May 2015 (UTC)<br />
::Thank you but I already read all of it. I just want to know if you take yourself screenshots on any streaming website or if you take it from a specific website ? :) --[[User:LeoKetchumB|LeoKetchumB]] ([[User talk:LeoKetchumB|talk]]) 19:26, 8 May 2015 (UTC)<br />
:::I mostly take the images I upload from [http://filb.de Filb.de]. This site has a friendly relationship with Bulbagarden and it is allowed to take images from their site. And sometimes I take images from YouTube videos by using printscreen. Do keep in mind though that these will usually be blurry and of below average quality. Good luck. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 19:35, 8 May 2015 (UTC)<br />
::::Do you know the reason why it says "You do not have permission to create new pages." when I try to upload a file ? Being autoconfirmed on Bulbapedia doesn't mean autoconfirmed on Bulbagarden archives ? {{unsigned|LeoKetchumB}}<br />
:::::That is correct. You have to get autoconfirmed on the Archives as well. Since you can't upload images yet, you'll have to find summaries of images you can edit or improve, it's pretty much the only way. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 14:41, 10 May 2015 (UTC)<br />
::::::What are the requirements to being autoconfirmed on Archives : just wait a certain time ? (cause there is nothing to edit on the Archives). {{unsigned|LeoKetchumB}}<br />
:::::::As far as I know, the requirements to be autoconfirmed on the Archives are exactly the same as on Bulbapedia. The exact number of edits you'll have to make is just a secret. "There is nothing to edit on the Archives" is not true, in my previous message I already told you you can edit summaries of images that are in need of improvement or something else. It's just harder to find something to edit on the Archives than it is on Bulbapedia, that's all. And please, don't forget to sign your comments. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 15:14, 10 May 2015 (UTC)<br />
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==Traveler a villain?==<br />
If I may ask, why did you move him to the villains category? What changed? [[User:The Great Butler|The Great Butler]] ([[User talk:The Great Butler|talk]]) 02:44, 14 May 2015 (UTC)<br />
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==Episode Title==<br />
If you hit the translate button, you'll see the real title. The title is called "Challenge Pokémon Sky Relay! Flightless, Onbatto!! [[User:Seabiscuit2020|Seabiscuit2020]] ([[User talk:Seabiscuit2020|talk]]) 18:54, 19 May 2015 (UTC)<br />
:Even if there's a title, it's better to wait till someone has created a page on it before adding a link to it. Bulbapedia has a couple of translators and one of them will have to properly translate the title first (automated internet translators are usually very wrong) before there will be a page on it. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 18:57, 19 May 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Deletion ==<br />
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I made a page for Ash's Noibat a while ago but it was not used for the actual page. How do I delete the page now that is not going to be used?[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] 12:25, 11 June 2015 (UTC)<br />
:Only staff can delete pages. I just deleted the page for you, thanks for bringing it up. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 12:45, 11 June 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== In other languages ==<br />
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Is there no specific style as to how the other language info has to be written? I have been editing a lot of these sections recently and saw that [[Starly (Pokémon)#In other languages|sometimes punctuations have been used, and sometimes not]]. It looks completely random and really not very good. I'm not saying that we should go ahead and make scores of edits to just add some full-stops, but there has to be some rule regarding this so that they can be gradually changed over time. -<span style="background:#000000;"><span style="color:#FFA500"><font face="Old English Text MT">''[[User:Sher-e-Bengal|<span style="color:#FFA500">Sher</span>]]-e-[[User_talk:Sher-e-Bengal|<span style="color:#FFA500">Bengal</span>]]''</font></span>-</span> 16:55, 20 June 2015 (UTC)<br />
:There's no specific style or rule on it, other than the standard rule of adding punctuation where necessary. Feel free to add punctuation if it's missing anywhere. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 18:01, 20 June 2015 (UTC)<br />
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==User Problem==<br />
Could you keep an eye on {{U|Pika The Shiny Pikachu}}. This editor is apparently over-editing the same page and my recent warning regarding the preview button is the third warning which may suggest this user is ignore these warnings. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] ([[User talk:Tyler53841|talk]]) 15:25, 25 July 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Need a little help ==<br />
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I posted on the discussion page for XY084 earlier, and you sent me a link to the forum thread about the episode. I have lost the link, so can you send it again? btw I woke up before 4:00 am, and watched through Tamagotchi and Aikatsu before watching Pokemon. [[User:PunkyNerdJoshi|PunkyNerdJoshi]] ([[User talk:PunkyNerdJoshi|talk]]) 12:48, 20 August 2015 (UTC)<br />
:The link is still on your talk page. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 12:51, 20 August 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Deletion == <br />
Once again one of the pages I made for a Pokémon was not used, [[User:Rahl/Serena's Eevee]]. Could you please delete it for me. Thank you.--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 11:00, 24 September 2015 (UTC)<br />
:Done. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 15:52, 24 September 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Future episodes help ==<br />
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I wanted to do something for one of the episodes but it's locked. Could you unlock it for a moment and don't worry I'll write it hidden and won't show it.--{{unsigned|JasonL}}<br />
:Future episodes are locked for a reason, almost always to avoid speculation. As you [[User_talk:Force_Fire#Wondering|were told previously]], just wait until the episode finishes airing to post the information you wish to. [[User:ChE clarinetist|ChE clarinetist]] ([[User talk:ChE clarinetist|talk]]) 13:59, 21 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Time ==<br />
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Excuse me, Blasingfist. For the English version of Pokemon XYZ,can you change the time to 7:00? It's not on 8:00 anymore.--[[User:CoolPokeGuy|CoolPokeGuy]] ([[User talk:CoolPokeGuy|Talk]]) 14:02, 18 February 2016 (UTC)<br />
:Done. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 14:34, 18 February 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Town infobox needs to be updated to display "other generation maps" for ORAS ==<br />
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Hello! Currently "[[Template:Town infobox|Town infobox]]" doesn't display "other generation maps" if the original generation parameter is less than 3. I believe this is because of the code <pre>{{#ifexpr: {{{generation|1}}} < 3|</pre> in the infobox :) This means that Hoenn locations in ORAS do not display the "other generation maps" panel, which would be needed in order to show the previous version of the location as seen in RSE. I can't even try to fix it, because I don't have the rights to edit it. Can you take a look and see if just changing that 3 to 4 makes it work properly, or if there is some other solution? Thanks! [[User:Kidburla|Kidburla]] ([[User talk:Kidburla|talk]]) 22:46, 28 March 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Pokémon Land image ==<br />
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Just wanted to let you know that I uploaded a different version of the [[a:File:Pokémon Land.png|Pokémon Land]] image not too long ago, making it similar to [[a:File:EP017.png]]. It did look similar to [[a:File:Island of the Giant Pokémon.png]] on the Bulbapedia side as the server didn't sync it yet. [[User:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Patty</span>]][[User talk:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Man</span>]] 00:25, 29 May 2016 (UTC)<br />
:That's good, thanks! <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 00:33, 29 May 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Fan Made Pokemon logo in Romanian ==<br />
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Hi there ^.^! I made two logos for the new Pokemon games, Sun and Moon, in Romanian! I was wondering if they can be published on the Pokemon Sun and Moon page, something like ”Fan made Romanian logo for Sun” And ”Fan made Romanian logo for Moon”. Thanks ^.^ If you accept, please tell me how can I sent them :)<br />
Cheers! [[User:AlexBrs3|AlexBrs3]] ([[User talk:AlexBrs3|talk]]) 08:44, 4 August 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== ISO Codes: Albanian ==<br />
I'd like you to add the Albanian temple as I found some info about Albanian movie titles. Thanks! [[User:Pokessio|Pokessio]] ([[User talk:Pokessio|talk]]) 20:07, 28 August 2016 (UTC)<br />
:Alright, if you can link me the template, I'll see what I can do. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 18:11, 30 August 2016 (UTC)<br />
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==[[XY132]]==<br />
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The episode already aired and I would like to add some plot to text. Can you change it to already aired in Japan but not in the US. ([[User talk:Orange Mo|talk]]) 21:17, 20 August 2016 (UTC)<br />
:Uhh, XY132 hasn't aired yet. It will air coming Thursday. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 14:22, 21 August 2016 (UTC)<br />
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==XY Round Covers==<br />
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Hi I was wondering if I could donate my XY covers, which are a lot cleaner because it's a digital source image than a scan. [[User:Oneplusoneis2|Oneplusoneis2]] ([[User talk:Oneplusoneis2|talk]]) 15:51, 30 August 2016 (UTC)<br />
:All images must be uploaded over at the [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Main_Page Archives], so head over there if you've got images to be put on Bulbapedia. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 18:11, 30 August 2016 (UTC)<br />
::Ahh, okay thanks! I'm not an autoconfirmed user, so I can't seem to upload anything there just yet. [[User:Oneplusoneis2|Oneplusoneis2]] ([[User talk:Oneplusoneis2|talk]]) 03:09, 31 August 2016 (UTC)<br />
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==UB-01==<br />
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Heh, sorry. I was just trying to save you all the hassle of creating the page. Hopefully you guys can make the page better. :)<br />
[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User:OdieboyDuck I'm a duck. That's pretty much it. -OdieboyDuck] 13:16, 6 September 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Mainspacing ==<br />
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So are these articles good enough to be shown to the public? [[User:Lunaflaire/Chespie]], [[User:Satsjoe/Lysandre's Gyarados]], [[User:Charlie/Diantha's Gardevoir]], [[User:05308/Z2]]. --[[User:Reinhartmax|Reinhartmax]] ([[User talk:Reinhartmax|talk]]) 18:53, 15 September 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Hey ==<br />
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Hope all is going well with you. Could you log on Discord whenever you get a chance? '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">--Pokemaster</span>]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">97</span>]]''''' 19:45, 6 October 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== What do you mean "Like what?" ==<br />
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Magical Leaf and Razor Leaf are both possible options. We've seen in Generations that not all of the moves look similar to how the moves in the anime series look nowadays, so why can't it be either of those two moves as well? All if the move was, were leaves cutting Goldbat. The swirling storm like gust could have come from whatever move Goldbat was using. [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]]) 13:36, 19 October 2016 (UTC)<br />
:I already removed it after I realized there were also leaves when it used Leaf Blade. But preferably, please bring these matters up on talk pages first before removing it all together (something which I also should have done) instead of blindly removing or undoing something. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 13:43, 19 October 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Deoxys ==<br />
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We also need a picture of Deoxys using Shadow Ball in PG09. --[[User:Seabiscuit2020|Seabiscuit2020]] ([[User talk:Seabiscuit2020|talk]]) 18:53, 29 October, 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Champions in Pokémon Generations ==<br />
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Just like Lance, Diantha is never stated to be the champion. If we take her being on stage as confirmation that she is Champion because that's what she did in the games as champion, then shouldn't the same count for Lance when attacking Team Rocket? [[User:DanyyelTR|DanyyelTR]] ([[User talk:DanyyelTR|talk]]) 01:18, 24 December 2016 (UTC)<br />
:Diantha is on stage during the Lumiose City ceremony to celebrate the new Champion. That should be enough confirmation. And Lance isn't there because one of the Rocket Grunts in PG04 explicitly said: "It's Lance of the Elite Four". <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 01:21, 24 December 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Old Woman (Alola) ==<br />
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Sorry if I caused any trouble creating the page, just thought it might be worth creating.--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 20:44, 3 April 2017 (UTC)<br />
:You didn't cause any trouble. With characters who didn't receive a name it's best to ask a staff member if it's okay to create the page however, since they don't always meet the notability norm. Oh and please use the correct link templates, so for Old woman (Alola), use <nowiki>{{al|Old woman}}</nowiki> instead of <nowiki>[[Old woman (Alola)|Old woman]]</nowiki>. Thanks! :) <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 20:48, 3 April 2017 (UTC)<br />
::Wasn't really sure what the correct template was but I do now. I find my confidence growing and am contributing a bit more to Bulbapedia now.--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 20:49, 3 April 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::We've all been there, so don't worry. Hope you continue editing! <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 20:53, 3 April 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::Thanks, hope to receive some more cast lists from Lisa Ortiz soon--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 20:54, 3 April 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Giant ==<br />
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Should I add the link, [[Giant Pokémon]], as a reference in the [[Giant]] disambiguation page or is the page just for the two characters with the name? [[User:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Patty</span>]][[User talk:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Man</span>]] 02:59, 28 April 2017 (UTC)<br />
:Yes, Giant Pokémon should also be added to the page and I see that has already been taken care of. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 09:41, 28 April 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Porygon nicknamed Pokémon ==<br />
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I recently came across [[User:Blazingfist/Anime Pokémon with nicknames]], which was very helpful, but I think that it's missing a Pokémon. In [[EP038]], "Electric Soldier Porygon", Team Rocket temporarily use a Porygon referred to as "[[List of Pokémon temporarily owned by the Team Rocket trio#Porygon Zero|Porygon Zero]]". While this episode wasn't aired outside of Japan and I don't speak Japanese so I can't verify it, I think it's technically the first nicknamed Pokémon. Unfortunately, I don't have edit rights to the user namespace so I can't add it myself, but I thought I'd let you know. -[[User:Thunderforge|Thunderforge]] ([[User talk:Thunderforge|talk]]) 03:26, 3 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
:Thanks, I added it! <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 12:21, 3 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Squirtle at Oak's Laboratory ==<br />
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Before the photo sequence, Rotom had gone missing from the corral. By the end of the episode it said itself that it went on a journey to fill the Kanto Pokédex, without specifying where exactly was it wandering around. The Squirtle Squad photo being specifically taken at Oak's lab is pure speculation. --[[User:Gabo 2oo|Gabo 2oo]] ([[User talk:Gabo 2oo|talk]]) 05:29, 22 September 2017 (UTC)<br />
:I'd say that the photo being taken outside of Oak's lab is pure speculation. There was no indication it had left. Going on a journey to fill fhe Kanto Pokédex may have meant as well going on a journey through the Oak corral, as it has been established that the corral is pretty big and a lot of Pokémon species live there. So saying Rotom left the lab is more speculative than saying it was at the lab all the time. Unless you have direct evidence that Rotom left the lab (dialogue I may have missed or something else). Then please present this. Rotom going missing is no evidence as they had a lot to focus on and had to cut away to other characters. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 09:11, 22 September 2017 (UTC)<br />
::Fair enough. I didn't consider a "journey" through the corral could actually make sense; I associated it with going out and exploring the region, even though doing so in just one day makes little sense. On the other hand, registering all the Kanto Pokémon (sans Mew) in Oak's corral also makes little sense, but yeah, there's no clear indication that Rotom had actually left the lab. --[[User:Gabo 2oo|Gabo 2oo]] ([[User talk:Gabo 2oo|talk]]) 19:46, 22 September 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::I can definitely see what you mean, and Squirtle not being at Oak's lab would make a lot more sense, but since we can't say for sure and the episode took place at Oak's lab, we have to avoid that assumption. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 19:59, 22 September 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Spambot ==<br />
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I would like to bring the attention to you of four spam pages not yet deleted, all created by this spambot user [[Special:Contributions/Poojakumari|Poojakumari]]. Thanks. — '''[[User:Ruixiang95|<span style="color:#1E90FF;">Ruixiang</span>]][[User talk:Ruixiang95|<span style="color:#4B0082;">95</span>]]''' 18:52, 25 September 2017 (UTC)<br />
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==Lusamine's Pokémon==<br />
Hi, I had a discussion with {{u|Pumpkinking0192}} on {{ut|Pumpkinking0192#Lusamine's Pokémon|his talk page}} about whether Lusamine's Herdier and Clefable have evolved from the Lillipup and Cleffa that appeared in her family photo, because this was never explicitly stated. However, up until now, we have always assumed that character's Pokémon have evolved if the character later reappeared with the Pokémon's evolved form (for example May's Venusaur, Paul's Aggron, Alain's Metagross, etc.). Since this situation is basically the same as those, I don't see why the Pokémon's evolution can't be assumed. Since you're a staff member, I thought I'd ask for your opinion on this. [[User:Satsjoe|Satsjoe]] ([[User talk:Satsjoe|talk]]) 15:08, 21 October 2017 (UTC)<br />
:My apologies for the late reply, I have been kind of busy lately. I can see both sides of the story, really. It's true that until now, we have often assumed that a Pokémon owned by someone is the same as its pre-evolved form if they were both owned by that certain someone. However, I can also see Pumpkinking's side of the argument, as policies and ways of thinking have changed around here through the years. Perhaps it is time to review this way of thinking. Trainers in the anime can just as easily own both species seperately. Take Nando for example, who owns both a Kricketot and a Kricketune. It's just that Kricketune appeared first that we know he owns them both, but if it was the other way around we might have wrongfully assumed Kricketune had evolved from Kricketot. I do get where this way of thinking comes from, as it is curious in this case that both Cleffa and Lillipup appear in the picture when Lusamine owns a Clefable and a Herdier. But when it comes down to it, we're not 100% sure and are technically assumimg when we listed them as evolved from Cleffa and Lillipup. Therefore, long story short, I don't really have the answer right now. It may be a bit much to retroactively use this new way of thinking on every article where this is applicable (I'd truly hate to list May both owning a Bulbasaur and a Venusaur to be honest, even if that is technically assuming too), but there is certainly truth in this way of thinking. Perhaps it's best if this issue is discussed on a broader scale, as I'm not exactly in the position to make a decision on this. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 21:01, 22 October 2017 (UTC)<br />
:: Ah okay, well thanks for your response. [[User:Satsjoe|Satsjoe]] ([[User talk:Satsjoe|talk]]) 18:23, 24 October 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Userspace edits ==<br />
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Just in case, I'm also gonna say it here; I replied to you on my [[User_talk:KingisNitro]]. [[User:KingisNitro|KingisNitro]] ([[User talk:KingisNitro|talk]]) 00:35, 18 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Can you help me with this? ==<br />
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I recently ran into a potential mistake regarding a held item on a [[Pokémon World Tournament]] Pokémon, and I'd like to see if a mistake has been made regarding it. Since I'm shamelessly lazy, I'll just say that the problem is described on [[Talk:Type Expert Tournament/Ground|this talk page]], instead of describing it here again. Sorry. Since you apparently own a Black 2 Version, could you check this out for me? I also have the Unova sequels on my emulator, but I can't remember if I've unlocked the correct tournament in them yet. Can you check if there has been a mistake? Whichever way it turns out to be, thank you in advance. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 15:40, 7 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I'll see what I can do. Problem is, I sent pretty much all of my high leveled, competitively viable Pokémon in B2W2 over to later games. So I'm not well equipped to do the Tournament anymore in that game. But I'll see if I can still check it out later. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 15:56, 7 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
::I understand. No worries or rush. Take your time. Just please let me know when you've checked it out. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 16:24, 7 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Took me some time but I managed to find it out. Power Herb is correct, see [https://i.imgur.com/qwrsNus.jpg screenshot] for evidence. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 21:35, 7 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
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==Mainspace articles==<br />
Was wondering if you could check the candidates for mainspace on my [[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User:BigDocFan|page]] to see if any can be approved and if not, what I can do to improve them for approval.--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 11:05, 13 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
:That is something I need to discuss with other people, so I'll review them and then get back to you later. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 11:17, 13 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Thanks sir, I understand--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 11:21, 13 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Don't suppose you've heard anything back about it?--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 11:37, 10 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::I'm afraid not. You might have more luck contacting someone on the [[Bulbapedia:Editorial Board|Editorial Board]] as they are the ultimate authority on if something can be mainspaced or not. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 11:58, 10 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::Anyone in particular you could recommend? {{unsigned|BigDocFan}}<br />
:::::Since all your mainspace candidates are Anime-related, try Pokemaster97 <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 12:05, 10 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
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==Singaporean/Playerking95==<br />
Was wondering if you or another admin could deal with the continuing squabbles going on by Singaporean and Playerking95 over edits. They seem to disagree over what is best put so feel someone with authority should make it clear which is better--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 15:22, 26 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
:No need, Singaporean keeps making wrong edits, by deleting important information or making speculative guesses.[[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]]) 08:35, 28 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Sophocles's Charjabug ==<br />
Could its history of being used in SM054 be removed? It only attacked one Pokemon once and that's all it did. The whole scenes of Lana, Mallow and Sophocles battling were short enough, but Charjabug's appearance was even smaller. [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]]) 08:35, 28 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Notes for the Pokemon Gold and Silver Beta Page ==<br />
I found some more information on the MicroGroup Game Review Volume 14 Issue, which detailed Tyranitar and two unused Pokemon. Since I cannot edit it, I wanted to forward the interview with Ken Sugimori, along with a page that shows the Pokemon in full view;<br />
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/lostpokemon/images/5/5d/Cover_Artist_Interview.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20111216210259<br />
http://www.hairyticksofdune.net/dropbox/sugimori.html<br />
--[[User:Pichu Madman26|Pichu Madman26]] ([[User talk:Pichu Madman26|talk]]) 21:24, 3 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Thanks for sharing this, it's really interesting. There's not a lot in the interview that's useful for Bulbapedia however. We already have a better image in color of the beta Pokémon and the interview doesn't contain anything that's vital to add to any page. But again, thanks for sharing and if you find anything else feel free to send me. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 08:56, 4 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
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==SM083==<br />
Appears to be an edit war going on over the Plot Summary for [[SM083]] between PardescanSlowbro and FinnishPokéFan92. Was wondering if an admin could sort it out once and for all as I hate seeing edit wars--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 11:38, 28 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
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==Question==<br />
Could my Professor Kukui anime page be mainspaced sometime soon? I feel like he's been important in at least a few episodes and he's appeared in almost all of them. WithTapu Koko, as it has played a big role in a few episodes and will be fighting Necrozma soon and that seems like something important in this arc. As for Rapp's Zubat, I'm not sure if it fits the criteria, but it was heavily involved in SM001, SM025 and somewhat so in SM084. [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]]) 15:43, 23 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Rapp's Zubat, no. Kukui, maybe. But that's not something I can decide on my own, I will need to consult with other staff. I think you're better off directly asking Head of Anime abcboy to be honest. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 15:52, 23 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Okay, thanks. {{unsigned|Playerking95}}<br />
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==Air Slash==<br />
FinnishPokeFan responded in an edit summary on Air Slash's page by saying Oh, be quiet, because there isn't any confirmation on some of Lunala's moves from today's episode? Could something be done about that edit summary telling me to shush? He also added Psycho Cut as a move that Necrozma used, but for months or weeks Lusamine's page listed Absol as having used Psycho Cut but it turned out to be Razor Wind. [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]]) 13:26, 30 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:The user is also adding Flash Cannon back to Nebby's page? Shouldn't moves be mentioned through dialogue or captions? [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]]) 13:27, 30 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
::I have told Finnish not to talk to other users like that. Regarding the moves, I'm not reverting his edits as I want to wait what kind of reasoning he has for adding these moves first. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 14:34, 30 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== repeated name ==<br />
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hey i couldnt help but notice u repeated ur name on the forums twice on your user page in the third paragraph --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 10:38, 21 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Thank you for noticing. Fixed. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 10:01, 28 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
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==Voice Actors==<br />
Could you or another admin member change it so that 4 actors/actresses can be listed in the VA box, such as with [[Pikarla]] as Mika Kanai, Chika Fujimura, Kei Shindō and Hitomi Kikuchi are listed as voicing Valley Pikachu?--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 21:27, 7 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I'll see what I can do, thanks for bringing it to my attention. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 21:28, 7 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Thanks, I know it is rare for something like this to happen, it was only earlier this year the number went from 2 to 3--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 21:29, 7 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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==Thanks==<br />
Thanks for deleting my pages, decided to clear my user page a bit including pages that I barely use, have no need for or starting afresh.--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 18:38, 23 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:No problem, happy to help out. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 18:40, 23 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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==Golem==<br />
FinnishPokeFan recently deleted one of Golem's appearances from its anime section, even though it's listed on SM081's page. I need to know, what was the reason for that edit. [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]]) 16:22, 27 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I don't know, you should ask him yourself on his talk page. But the situation seems to be resolved now from what I can tell. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 16:28, 27 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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==Eevee, Where Are You Going?==<br />
GrammarFreak keeps adding Eevee above Trainer Pokemon for episode 1. Aren't Trainer Pokemon always listed at the top of the list, even if the recurring Pokemon are important? [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]]) 09:44, 28 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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:I feel putting Eevee lower on the list would be detrimental, since it's clearly the star of those shorts yet there's more emphasis on the Trainers' Pokémon. The cast lists should reflect that. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 09:53, 28 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Pokémon belonging to '''main characters''' always goes first, and then important recurring Pokémon. Pokémon belonging to unimportant, nameless characters go after that. GrammarFreak is correct here.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 11:47, 28 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Except that's not true and has never been the case. Every single page lists recurring Pokemon under nameless Trainers. Look at SM013, Bewear is clearly listed under normal Trainers. [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]]) 12:36, 29 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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==Pokemon Hierarchy==<br />
To Blazingfist and only Blazingfist: Don't Pokemon with Trainers always go above wild Pokemon? [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]]) 12:38, 29 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I agree with Force Fire, this is a special case. Eevee is clearly the star of its own "show" and to list it secondary to background Pokémon in the listings would be rather silly if you ask me. These shorts are very different from regular episodes anyway. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 13:05, 29 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Pokémon League Conference article pictures ==<br />
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Since you have been minorly involved in this I thought I would come to you about it. On the [[Pokémon League Conference]] article, the table shows images of the locations where the competitions take place. The pictures of the Indigo Plateau and Silver Conferences have been changed to just pictures of the main stadiums. I personally don't agree with this change because all of the other tournament pictures show all of the stadiums the competition takes place in. The old pictures of Indigo Plateau and Silver Town showed all of the stadiums for those conferences, but the new single stadium pictures don't. Thoughts? --[[User:HoennMaster|<font color="blue">Hoenn</font>]][[User talk:HoennMaster|<font color="green">Master</font>]] 19:48, 8 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Yes, I agree with you. The images should be representative of the tournament complex as a whole, not just one small part of it. If there's a good image of the entire complex, I don't see any reason why we should change it to an image of just one stadium. This is especially the case with the Silver Conference IMO. We use images for the entire complex for the Hoenn, Sinnoh and Unova leagues and not just the stadium that the finals are held in, why should that be different for the Silver Conference?<br />
:Although I will say a case can be made for the Indigo Conference. The image that was used for it was from the Battle Frontier saga and also showed the Grand Festival venues, so it wasn't ideal. I'm not 100% sure, but I don't think the old Kanto league episodes ever showed a clear shot of the entire tournament complex. So I'm saying a case can be made there, but on the other hand I'm also not against using the Battle Frontier image. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 19:57, 8 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
::I find your choice of words very interesting. First because you're saying the ''main'' stadium of the Silver Conference is "just one small part of it" when it's actually the place where most of the important battles took place and also the largest stadium by far. We don't even have images of the other stadiums and yet we're choosing to ignore the one image we have because other stadiums exist (!!!).<br />
::Second because you seem to think that we have a good image of the entire complex when we don't. What we have is an image of Silver Town and we can hardly see the other stadiums there. The very user who uploaded that image, FinnishPokéFan92, prefers to use the image of the main stadium judging by their edit to the Pokémon League Conference page.<br />
::Lastly, in your most recent edit summary in the Pokémon League Conference page, you said ''"Let's stay consistent: the Hoenn, Sinnoh and Unova leagues don't use final stadium images."'' which I'm assuming is a joke, because as I said [[User talk:Mikuri#League Stadium pictures|here]], that is the ''opposite'' of being consistent. We use images of stadiums rather than images of the hosting city. If you want to see the image of the hosting city, you click on the link below the stadium image and check its page. The League tournaments you mentioned don't use "final stadium images" because all of their stadiums are connected.<br />
::Also, I'd like to add that you were the one who added that table listing the Grand Festival tournaments to the Grand Festival page, and you ''did not'' use the Indigo Plateau image, you chose to use the image of the main stadium, I wonder why it's different now. But that's that on that. Just wanted to point out all of these inconsistencies. They're happening fairly often as of lately. Can you believe that earlier today I added the incomplete tag to a page created by the current head of anime? A page that has almost no content aside from the langtable. In the past the staff would move these articles to the userspace, but now the staff is creating pages with two sentences directly in the mainspace. Thanks for reading. --[[User:Mikuri|<span style="color:#2b915e;">'''Mi'''</span>]][[User talk: Mikuri|<span style="color:#52cc91;">'''ku'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Mikuri|<span style="color:#8debbc;">'''ri'''</span>]] 01:06, 9 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::First off, please change your tone. I find your tone rather condescending, and I have often found it to be this way towards other people. It's not helping you in the least. You're not some high and mighty person whose opinions are superior.<br />
:::Regarding your points: yes, and the central stadiums of the Hoenn, Sinnoh and Unova Leagues are also a small part of it, and yet we use the overview images. Yes, the other stadiums exist, and that's exactly why. They should be acknowledged. The League '''didn't''' take place in just one big stadium, it took place over multiple stadiums and the image reflects that.<br />
:::There's where we disagree, I do. It '''is''' an image of the entire complex. <br />
:::I disagree again, I think only doing the final stadium thing for two leagues and not three others is inconsistent. It's not a joke in the least, it's fairly rude of you to say so. I don't think your opinions are a joke, even though I disagree with them. I don't see what stadiums being connected has to do with anything. Either upload final stadium images of the Hoenn, Sinnoh and Unova league or don't. It's that simple.<br />
:::Yes, I did at that time, but my first priority was getting that template done and that Grand Festival image just used to be the main page image at that time. I don't really know about any inconsistensies. Maybe it's just things not going the way you want them to go. I can't speak for abcboy, and it's fairly unbelievable that you choose to backstab him via some unrelated discussion on my talk page. If you have a problem with him, bring it up with him, not me. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 07:21, 9 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::I am not the one acting as if my opinions are superior. There wasn't a single moment when I said ''"I '''personally''' don't agree with this"'' or a variation of that. Unlike HoennMaster who literally said that, word for word, I wasn't giving my own personal opinion, I was stating (and illustrating with examples) how things work (or used to work, I don't know anymore) around here.<br />
::::Regarding my tone, well, if you look at the three most recent discussions on my talkpage, you will see that I can be very nice and polite. But different situations call for different tones, and I am sorry if this discussion hurt your feelings.<br />
::::It doesn't surprise me in the least that you find the Silver Town image a good one considering all of the low quality images you uploaded to start [[User:Blazingfist/Anime competitions|this page]] (some of which now have newer, better versions uploaded by me). And just to clarify, I wasn't laughing at your opinions, but rather at your courage to argue that you're being consistent when you're not.<br />
::::Also, I wasn't backstabbing abcboy. If I had sent you a private message, sure. But this page can (and I'm sure it has) be read by him. Stabbing someone in the back means the person isn't looking, and this discussion is available for anyone to see. What I was doing is painting a picture, one that shows the staff as people whose actions are not consistent with how they expect other users to behave and with Bulbapedia's overall style.<br />
::::Please answer, was I lying when I said that starting an article the way abcboy started the [[Wind Festival]] one (if we can call that an article) would result in the user who started it receiving a warning on their talkpage, told to wait for more information, and having the page moved to their userspace? Is this not true?<br />
::::You said that my attitude isn't helping me at all, but when [[User talk:Force Fire#Need your help|I did ask for help]], I didn't get any response. Apparently because FF seems to think that [[Special:Diff/2821305|this kind of edit]] is doing wonders for Bulbapedia. Or perhaps because he is too busy doing [[Special:Diff/2875741|things like this]]? Because these are two great examples of quality edits.<br />
::::To further confirm what I'm saying about the staff being inconsistent, we have [[Weather trio|this page]] sitting at the pile of candidates for moving for over two years now because, [[Talk:Weather trio#Super-ancient Pokémon|according to Tiddlywinks]], we have to wait for Editorial Board approval when, in reality, EB member Ataro created the article [[super-ancient Pokémon (Adventures)]]. Don't you find that curious?<br />
::::The same Tiddlywinks [[User talk:Tiddlywinks#Battle Frontier articles|recently deleted]] the Battle Frontier articles even though the split had been approved by SnorlaxMonster. But I am sure that you're well aware of all of that because you said that you have found my tone to be condescending towards other people, so it can be presumed that you have seen these messages before.<br />
::::It seems as if I have changed topics, but when I joined this discussion I wasn't planning to get the Silver Stadium image back into the Pokémon League Conference page. You had already made your decision without waiting for a proper discussion to take place and ignoring, as did HoennMaster, the existing discussion on my talkpage. I was trying to shine a light on these inconsistencies, which I have accomplished. I'm hoping that you understand that instead of accusing me of backstabbing others. Thank you. --[[User:Mikuri|<span style="color:#2b915e;">'''Mi'''</span>]][[User talk: Mikuri|<span style="color:#52cc91;">'''ku'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Mikuri|<span style="color:#8debbc;">'''ri'''</span>]] 16:19, 11 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::This discussion didn't hurt my feelings in the least. But it's clear that you can be very dismissive of others and their opinions. Look no further than "I'm assuming is a joke" in your previous message. And you display this kind of attitude all over. I'm sure you can be nice as well, but that doesn't excuse your less favourable behaviour. I don't really care if you think my opinions or way of thinking are a joke, but it's no secret that a lot of people at Bulbapedia and Bulbagarden in general have autism, social anxiety, etc., and speaking so harshly to others can be hurtful to them. Take that as you wish. There's no problem with disagreeing with someone, but you can do so in a courteous, respectful way.<br />
:::::Not sure why you're bashing the images over at '''my''' userspace page that currently doesn't have a Mainspace tag to it. Seems rather petty of you to complain over that, but alas.<br />
:::::Alright, perhaps backstabbing was not the right word. But I still find it pretty weak to bring it up in an unrelated discussion on my talk page. You didn't bother to talk this over with abcboy on his talk page. I'm honestly not sure why you're rambling on about unrelated staff complaints in a message about some image. I'm just an Administrator so I'm not the one to solve broader staff complaints. If you feel something is wrong with Bulbapedia staff, talk it over with Kogoro.<br />
:::::I honestly have nothing further to say to you or to add to this discussion. I've said what I've wanted to say on the matter as a whole and in response to your message. My opinion hasn't changed and I have much better things to do currently than argue in long posts over some image (letalone staff complaints), so I won't reply any further, just so you know. For staff complains I'll redirect you to Kogoro and for discussion regarding the image, just start a talk page discussion and ask what other users think. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 16:47, 11 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::So judging by the messages you left on this discussion you have seen me treating others in a condescending manner for quite a while now but it never once crossed your mind to leave me a message on my talk page telling me to be nicer or something? It's only when it affects you directly that you felt the need to speak out and play the role of advocate for autism and social anxiety? Nice try but I'm not buying it.<br />
::::::I wasn't ''bashing'' your images. I was merely saying they're low quality, which is far from offering the harsh criticism the word "bashing" conveys. How easily offended can you be? Please select your words more carefully and don't attempt to paint me as someone I am not. First by saying I was backstabbing abcboy, then by implying I'm not considerate of others, and now this.<br />
::::::And please give me some credit. How clueless do you think I am? The section directly above this one has Playerking95 demanding to be answered by you and only you. The reason for this? Everyone and their grandparents know that staff members keep an eye on each others' talk pages. Staffers have meddled into several discussions outside their talk pages before, but oftentimes they will conveniently ignore some discussions like this one. Why should I copy and paste this into the talk pages of each of the users I mentioned? To be left on read by Force Fire again? To be told by Tiddlywinks that there's no great rush in solving a problem he created?<br />
::::::I doubt abcboy and the others haven't read this yet, but he hasn't replied because there's really no defending a two-sentence article. And whether or not you admit it, you know fully well I'm right, otherwise you would have answered the question I left in my previous message regarding this.<br />
::::::Answering or ignoring this is your choice, and I have no interest in continuing this discussion either, but I'm not going to sit and watch as you act all holier-than-thou and paint me as a backstabber inconsiderate who is bashing you. --[[User:Mikuri|<span style="color:#2b915e;">'''Mi'''</span>]][[User talk: Mikuri|<span style="color:#52cc91;">'''ku'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Mikuri|<span style="color:#8debbc;">'''ri'''</span>]] 22:49, 11 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::It's clear that you don't think very highly of me but no worries, the feeling is entirely mutual. As I said, I have no interest in further talking with you. Discuss your pent up staff frustrations with Kogoro. Bye bye now. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 22:57, 11 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
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==List of anime characters==<br />
Thought I would explain here, the List of anime characters page as it was listed Stufful twice, I deleted the one I added and kept the one you added.--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 11:27, 11 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Yeah I just noticed, didn't see that Stufful was listed twice. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 11:28, 11 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
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==Bloom Doom==<br />
I tried updating the anime section of {{m|Bloom Doom}} to include Rowlet's base moving being Razor Leaf or Seed Bomb given its usage in today's episode but a problem occurred. Grammarfreak undid my edit as he didn't know what to do so I thought I would ask an admin for help.--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 12:44, 18 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Hmm... not sure what went wrong with your edit. But no problem, it's fixed now! <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 14:41, 18 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Thanks, just been comparing how I did to the way you did it, I had the move but with only }} instead of }}}}--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 14:47, 18 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::I see, no problem. Mistakes happen. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 17:39, 18 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
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==Help==<br />
Its not letting me Upload images for Lets GO sprites, it says I don't have Permission, what do I Do? [[User:BrendanC|Brendan C]] ([[User talk:BrendanC|talk]]) 14:45, 18 November 2018 (UTC)BrendanC<br />
:I'm assuming you mean on the Archives? It's possible it's because you're not autoconfirmed yet. You can read it [https://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Archives:FAQ here], but what it basically means is that you will have to make a certain amount of edits on the Archives first and your account needs to have existed for a certain amount of time as well. Even I don't know how much edits you need to make or how old your account needs to be, but I'd suggest just looking around on the Archives and see if there's any image descriptions you can add something to or improve. Let me know if you need any further help. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 14:54, 18 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I've done work on the Archives, and been on it for a while, but still not autoconfirmed. I need to try and get these Lets Go Sprites Up. Thanks For the Help. [[User:BrendanC|Brendan C]] ([[User talk:BrendanC|talk]]) 17:34, 18 November 2018 (UTC)BrendanC<br />
::No problem, happy to help. Good luck on getting autoconfirmed! <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 17:39, 18 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== [[Trophy Garden]] edit war with FinnishPokéFan92 ==<br />
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Hi there! I recently added a section to the [[Sea Cottage]] article about the infamous Bill's Secret Garden rumour, which I felt was worthy of inclusion due to it being of similar infamy to [[the truck]] and [[Mewthree]]. After adding a trivia note to the [[Trophy Garden]] article about it being an apparent reference to the rumour, [[user:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] reverted this without discussion. After restoring this with an edit requesting discussion and adding a talk page discussion, FinnishPokéFan92 once again reverted this without engaging. I've reached out to FinnishPokéFan92 to try and settle this, but if we can't come to an agreement I'd appreciate if you can step in. It should be noted that I don't think they're trying to be disruptive - they did actually improve upon my additions to the Sea Cottage article. --[[User:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] [[User talk:Poppy Appletree|:3]] 13:12, 20 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:{{user|Force Fire}} has judged the rumor too minor to be notable. Sorry, Poppy. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 13:42, 20 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:: Once upon a time people actually ''talked'' to people before making unilateral decisions about things like this. This kind of action seriously degrades the collaborative nature of a wiki. For what it's worth, the rumour is in no way minor, and I've linked to several news articles mentioning it, and it's mentioned on at dozens if not hundreds of fansites. --[[User:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] [[User talk:Poppy Appletree|:3]] 13:45, 20 November 2018 (UTC)</div>
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User talk:Force Fire/Archive 9
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<p>Poppy Appletree: /* Sea Cottage and Trophy Garden */ new section</p>
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<div>{{User:Force Fire/Archive}}<br />
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== Subpages of a userpage ==<br />
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Hello, I noticed you warning people about their userpages, so I thought you'd be the right person to ask this. The thing is, I would like to create a subpage listing my in-game teams using the standard team template, since I want there to be more things related to Pokémon and me on my page. I wanted to ask whether or not it is allowed at all and what I should keep in mind besides not editing excessively. Thank you! [[User:Kikugi|Kikugi]] ([[User talk:Kikugi|talk]]) 10:16, 9 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Making subpages for that is fine, the rules for subpages is the same as a normal userpage. An edit to your subpage also counts to the "three userspace edits per day" rule.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 10:28, 9 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Another offensive username ==<br />
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Puta is a really rude word in Spanish(I think the account maker failed to use proper alts, but their intent is clear...is this worth your time for an unacceptable username?--[[User:BlisseyandtheAquaJets|BlisseyandtheAquaJets]] ([[User talk:BlisseyandtheAquaJets|talk]]) 17:16, 9 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== "Not everything is a pun" ==<br />
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...I never said everything is, but SM is known for them and "ワル" is not a Japanese word, but "warui" (悪い) is! And since it's spelled as "ワル" and "Warubiaru" (ワルビアル) is in the episode it makes sense it's a pun. I have no idea what your problem is and I don't care, but I've already explained why it's a pun. "ワル" isn't used as "bad" in katakana, but words are used in different characters when they're a joke. Like the episode with Dhelmise with "Ikari" (anger) being used as "いかり" as "anchor" but the same spelling "Ikari" also can be used to mean "怒り" (anger). [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]]) 19:31, 12 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Please respond and change it back because it's not spelled the right way, meaning it is a pun. I don't care what your problem is, but not correctly addressing a pun in a title that clearly has one just makes Bulbapedia look stupid. I've been obvious why it's a pun. Why can episode titles like SM071, SM065, and SM040 be acknowledged but not this? [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]]) 14:54, 13 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Just because "waru" is written in katakana, doesn't mean it no longer means "悪" or has a different meaning. "ワル" is still "悪", it's not some nonsensical word. And yes, "悪" can be used by itself. As for the title, "waru" could also be referring to Nanu, considering his attire and the fact the title includes "oyaji" (since it's "...waru oyaji wa...").<br />
::As for the other episodes, they're fine. Ikari can mean either Anchor and Anger, like you said, so that's a pun. "Mairimasu" ''is'' pure nonsense and could only be a pun. "Pan-paka-pan" is a trumpet fanfare with just happens to include the word "pan", and the episode was about bread.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 15:20, 13 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::The idea that not translating a pun is bad needs to be addressed.<br />
:::Translating puns is HARD.<br />
:::It is ''not'' always worth wracking your brain over or compensating for otherwise. And it's not even necessarily worth forcing something. Not translating a pun does not make Bulbapedia look stupid... [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 15:37, 13 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Surge/Terrain confusion ==<br />
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There's confusion going on in the anime whether the [[Tapu]] are activating their signature abilities or using the Terrain moves. This issue has been resolved with {{DL|Recurring wild Pokémon in the anime|Tapu Koko}}, but people are still mixing up {{DL|Recurring wild Pokémon in the anime|Tapu Lele}} and {{DL|Recurring wild Pokémon in the anime|Tapu Bulu}}'s Abilities with their Terrain moves. When Tapu Lele and Tapu Bulu activated their Abilities {{a|Psychic Surge}} and {{a|Grassy Surge}} respectively, users are assuming that they are using the attacks {{m|Psychic Terrain}} and {{m|Grassy Terrain}} instead. That is not the case. In ''[[SM037|Rising from the Ruins!]]'' and [[SM075]], when Tapu Lele and Tapu Bulu enter battle with Rockruff and {{AP|Lycanroc}} respectively, their Surge Abilities go off at the start of their battles. This happened with Tapu Koko as well when it battled {{AP|Pikachu}} in ''[[SM002|The Guardian's Challenge!]]'' and ''[[SM019|A Guardian Rematch!]]''. The Terrain moves can go off during any point of the battle, however the Surge Abilities can only activate when the Pokémon enter the field. Another point to show that it's their abilities activating in those episodes and not their attacks is in ''[[SM052|Revealing the Stuff of Legend!]]'' where all four Tapu used the four Terrain moves to show {{Ash}} and {{ashfr|the gang}} [[Nebby#In_the_anime|Nebby]]'s backstory. Even the anime makes mistakes as shown in SM075 where [[Acerola]] and {{Rotom}} misidentify Tapu Bulu's Grassy Surge as Grassy Terrain. --[[User:PKMNAdventurer|PKMNAdventurer]] ([[User talk:PKMNAdventurer|talk]]) 21:32, 18 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I've removed them and added a hidden notice. Abilities and moves need to be explicitly said, especially those that would potentially have the same exact animation.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 03:11, 19 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Ok, looks like Psychic Terrain was confirmed via dub captions (which is fine, until/unless the Japanese version says that it's something else later on). Grassy Terrain was said, which you've noted. Is it an error? We don't know. But for now, it is not an error unless they contradict themselves and call it Grassy Surge later on. At the end of the day, the is no confusion. Assuming moves is something you shouldn't be doing. If it is said or revealed in close caption, then that's final.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 12:08, 19 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Ok. I wanted to make sure if the move used was either the Terrain Move or the Surge Ability. Thank you for clearing it up. --[[User:PKMNAdventurer|PKMNAdventurer]] ([[User talk:PKMNAdventurer|talk]]) 20:48, 19 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Requests ==<br />
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If you would be so kind, could you please hear me out and consider doing a couple things I can't do (at least without permission, in some cases):<br />
* Template {{template|Trainerentry}} has several handy redirects for Trainer classes that have changed their names over the years, such as "Cooltrainer" to "Ace Trainer" and "Rocket" to "Team Rocket Grunt". However, there are several Trainer class name changes that have either been missed or happened after the template was last edited, like "Rocket Grunt"{{tt|*|From Generation II}} to "Team Rocket Grunt", "Pokéfan" to "Poké Fan", "Swimmer ♂/♀" to "Swimmer", and "Clerk ♂/♀" to "Office Worker". There may be others than these, but anyway, my point is, could you please add the missing redirects to the template in the same way as the already existing redirects?<br />
* Back in January, I suggested that the [[Pokémon League (Alola)/Title Defense]] page should be split into separate SM and USUM Title Defense pages. I've already got the USUM section ready right [[User:FinnishPokéFan92/Pokémon League (Alola)/Title Defense/Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon|here]] under my own userspace in case the idea gets approved. Do you think the page should be split?<br />
* Ummm... I recall having a third request, but it doesn't come to my mind right now. I'll come back if I can remember it.<br />
:--[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 12:59, 20 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
::I've added the examples you've provided. If there are any more, do let me know.<br />
::I've forwarded the article with the other staff members.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 08:16, 21 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Thank you for hearing me out. And indeed, I've discovered a few more redirect links that should be fixed: "Officer" and "Policeman" to "Police Officer", "Interviewer" to "Interviewers", "Socialite" to "Madame", and "School Kid" to "Schoolkid". Also, a couple of other things related to this subject:<br />
::::In Generation II, the "Swimmer" class was classified as "Swimmer♂/♀", as in without a space, while in Generation VI, it's "Swimmer ♂/♀", as in ''with'' a space. The latter redirect is yet to be fixed.<br />
::::In Generation II, the Trainer class that would later be known as "Schoolkid" was called "Schoolboy", hence why "Schoolboy" redirects to "Schoolkid" (or rather "School Kid", a redirect link). And then, in Generation VI, we were introduced to the separate "Schoolboy" Trainer class. As such, the Schoolboy links from Generation VI now lead to an incorrect article (similar to the "Medium" link from [[Saffron Gym]]'s page, actually, due to the Channeler class's renaming in Stadium, but that's a much more minor subject). I know this may be an impossible or at least a difficult problem to solve properly, but I decided to bring it up nevertheless, just in case.<br />
:::The request I forgot about yesterday is actually a pretty old one: back in 2013, I made a suggestion to change the {{template|Gym Leaders of Unova}} to better separate the BW and B2W2 Gym Leaders from each other, but my edit (which you can see [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Template:Gym_Leaders_of_Unova&oldid=1865505 here]) was undone, because I hadn't talked about it beforehand. Since then, I've forgotten, remembered, and re-forgotten this multiple times, but now I've finally managed to make myself bring this long-forgotten topic up again. Could the template be edited in this or at least in a similar kind of way, or do you feel it's good enough as it is?<br />
:::Also, I've also come up with a couple new things I'd want to propose since yesterday: could "Tide Song Hotel" and "Kantonian Gym" receive their own articles? I've already asked people's opinions about these ideas on [[Heahea City]] and [[Malie City]]'s talk pages, and at least the Tide Song Hotel split seems to have gotten some support already. Could you take these splits into consideration as well? Thank you.<br />
:::--[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 10:04, 21 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::Oh, and while I'm at it, I also found one Orre Trainer class redirect to fix: "Fun Old Lady" to "Matron". --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 12:35, 21 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::Ah, didn't see the subtle difference with the Swimmer trainer class. I've added the other TCs.<br />
:::::I think the Unova Gym Leader Template is fine the way it is. Repeating the same Gym Leaders is pretty unnecessary, while I do get why, the template is about who are the Gym Leaders, separating by game isn't necessary. Plus, the three newer Gym Leaders being at the bottom of the first eight already implies that they were added later on.<br />
:::::I've forwarded those suggestions to the other admins as well.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 05:11, 24 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::I actually just saw you making that edit. Thanks a lot.<br />
::::::I understand. It's fine. I won't raise that topic again.<br />
::::::Thanks once again. I'll be waiting for the results. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:36, 24 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::Sorry to bother you again, but I've found a couple more links to fix, mainly from the Orre games:<br />
::::::::Let's get the simpler ones out of the way first: "Researcher" and "Cipher R&D" to "Scientist".<br />
::::::::Now, for something I'm not so sure of: the Orre-exclusive classes "Rogue" "Kaminko Aide", and "Robo Groudon" are Trainer classes used by only one person each, and they also only appear as redirect links on one page each. Hence why I'm not sure if these redirects should be removed or not. What do you think?<br />
::::::::And finally, something a bit different, but still involving the same template. A big number of Fighting-type Trainers in FireRed and LeafGreen have their Pokémon holding Black Belts. However, the template links the "Black Belt" held item to "Type-enhancing item#Black Belt". This was understandable before, but now "Black Belt (item)" has its own article. Could you change the link to go to the item's own page now?<br />
:::::::Thank you. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 06:59, 25 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::Done. As for the three single trainer trainer classes, I think they're fine, due to the way the template works (the second parameter is under a TC template, so their has to be a [name] (Trainer class) link.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 03:29, 26 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::Thank you once again. However, when I looked at your edits, I also happened to notice that, similar to the Black Belt link you fixed, the held item link for "Metronome" leads to "In-battle effect item#Metronome". I can understand that you didn't notice that during your edit, so I'm not blaming you of anything, but could you be so kind and fix that one, too? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:25, 26 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::Whoopsie! Every time I think I'm done with this issue, I notice something new. The redirect link of "Poké'''F'''an" to "Poké Fan" has been fixed, but it's formatted as "Poké'''f'''an" on every pre-Generation VI page (as well as on the "Poké Fan (Trainer class)" article), and ''that'' redirect link still remains to be fixed. Could you do this one more thing? I'm sorry if you feel bothered by this. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 12:40, 27 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::::(deep sigh) One. More. Once again I've noticed something. In Generation II, some Poké Fans had their Pokémon holding Berries, as in "Berry (item)", but link just goes to "Berry". Could that be fixed? PS. I also have other stuff to talk about with you, but I'll probably start a new section for that purpose later. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 08:04, 2 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Force preview question ==<br />
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I've heard about the force preview group, where you have to preview your edits before publishing them. And I thought it might help me slow down and evaluate if my edits are actually helpful, since I have a tendency to act impulsively. Is it possible to ask to be put in that group? I was just curious. [[User:Veralann|<span style="color:#ffa900;">'''Incentive'''</span><span style="color:#00c7ff">''' (a.k.a. Veralann)'''</span>]] 02:49, 21 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== PokeShay ==<br />
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I think it was a little harsh to block him for that. You could've just asked about it on his talk page. --[[User:Raltseye|<span style="color:#FF6464">R</span><span style="color:#11BB11">alts</span><span style="color:#6464FF">eye</span>]] [[User talk:Raltseye|prata med mej]] 16:03, 24 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== "Pokémon seen" lists for movie locations ==<br />
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I wasn't too sure who to ask about this, though I have noticed that some movie-based locations have got the "Pokémon seen" lists and others don't. What is the requirement for these types of pages?. E.g. The Lake of Life has an incomplete list whilst Forina and the Tree of Beginning do not have any list, instead the Pokémon are just listed in the description section. <br />
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Also who is the authority on uploading images to the archives? I have a few images in mind that are needed to complete other pages like the Pokémon mate page. <br />
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Thanks. [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 09:55, 28 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Locations where Pokémon actually live there have the Pokémon list. Though I'm not too sure if it's needed, as most are just wild Pokémon. Maybe if they play a large role in the area, such as the titans in Tree of Beginning, then they can be listed. Otherwise, it's unnecessary. As for the archives, you have to create an account at the archives and wait to be autoconfirmed there (the requirements are the same as it is on the wiki).--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 02:43, 29 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
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::Thank you for the information. [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 09:36, 29 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Unaccpetable username ==<br />
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[[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Special:Contributions/Son_of_a_gun]] {{unsigned|RubyLeafGreenCrystal}}<br />
:No it's not.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 02:43, 29 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Bulbapedia lagging ==<br />
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Not really sure if this is the appropriate place to ask, but is the site undergoing updates or something? Loading for this site is lagging for me. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 20:45, 29 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
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:Never mind. The issue seems to have resolved itself. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 21:48, 29 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Could I have my userspace privileges back? ==<br />
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It's been like 6 years and I mostly just wanna delete it lmao --[[User:Pokelova|Pokelova]] ([[User talk:Pokelova|talk]]) 12:17, 31 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Done.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 14:18, 31 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Edgreen293 ==<br />
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{{user|Edgreen293}} is at it again ([https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Chopper&diff=prev&oldid=2803690] [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Janet&diff=prev&oldid=2803692] [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Damian&diff=prev&oldid=2803693]). [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 22:29, 5 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
: I might also add {{user|Tygamer64}} since both GrammarFreak01 and I were discussing him on his talk page. Since he has made rather pointless edits and we were told to report these cases. '''Ice''' [[User talk:The IceCream|Cream]] 15:25, 6 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== RE: Episode links ==<br />
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The links I added are from a licensed Pokémon copyright holder, so there is no copyright issue here. They are all legal.--[[User:Magicknight94|Magicknight94]] ([[User talk:Magicknight94|talk]]) 09:31, 6 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Did you read my reply?--[[User:Magicknight94|Magicknight94]] ([[User talk:Magicknight94|talk]]) 14:52, 7 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
::You still can't link to full episodes or episode clips, regardless of whether it comes from an official source or not.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 04:35, 8 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Why not? If copyright is not the issue here, what is the problem? Can you explain? --[[User:Magicknight94|Magicknight94]] ([[User talk:Magicknight94|talk]]) 07:33, 8 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Hello?--[[User:Magicknight94|Magicknight94]] ([[User talk:Magicknight94|talk]]) 05:22, 11 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::Be patient. Force Fire is probably busy. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 05:31, 11 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::The issue '''is''' copyright. We choose not to link to episodes available on streaming sites, regardless of it being from an official source or not, just to be on the safe side. Also, the link you provided was for the Vietnamese dub, which I don't think anyone visiting an ''English'' wiki would be interested in.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 05:14, 12 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Pokemon 4ever working title? ==<br />
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https://www.serebii.net/archive/September-2000.shtml Scrolling down that page a bit shows a 7-frame promo for a project simply called ''Pokémon 2001'' and one of the frames shows a Celebi, no plans to currently add anything about it to the Pokémon 4ever page but I was wondering what your thoughts were on this. ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|<span style="color:teal">Frozen</span>]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|<span style="color:green">Fennec</span>]]'' 14:05, 13 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Do you have another source for that other than Serebii? Serebii is not a credible source, as it's a fansite.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 13:10, 14 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Nope, just randomly came across that and given how old the page was, got a little curious. Tried to reverse image search the frames but could not find anything at all. ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|<span style="color:teal">Frozen</span>]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|<span style="color:green">Fennec</span>]]'' 13:12, 14 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Not sure if I can post this video, but here's video proof. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Od-eFQhVRI [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]]) 13:56, 14 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::Oh wow, did not know there was still video footage, I just thought it was those seven screenshots. Wonder if this would be worth adding to the Pokémon 4ever section as trivia. ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|<span style="color:teal">Frozen</span>]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|<span style="color:green">Fennec</span>]]'' 14:01, 14 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== PardescanSlowbro ==<br />
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I'm having a really big problem with {{user|PardescanSlowbro}} right now. I once sent him [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2768197&oldid=2766807 this message] in response to his editing style, and [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2768426&oldid=2768197 he took it pretty personally] (even though I was also [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AGrammarFreak01&type=revision&diff=2768465&oldid=2766949 in the wrong here]). Since then, the user has made edits to a variety of articles, and I've commonly had to edit them to rectify errors that he made. For example, [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=EP045&type=revision&diff=2809520&oldid=2806418 he very recently edited] the plot summary of [[EP045]] and [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=EP045&diff=next&oldid=2809520 this] was what I did to improve it (note that I also did some unrelated changes at the same time).<br />
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[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2801230&oldid=2801220 I once tried] to inform him of some of the kinds of errors he kept making in his edits, like [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AGrammarFreak01&type=revision&diff=2768465&oldid=2766949 you suggested], but [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2801256&oldid=2801230 this] was his response. He also said [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2801220&oldid=2801168 this beforehand]. [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2801258&oldid=2801256 I tried] to be rational and explain myself this time, but the conversation did not move forward anymore, so I gave up trying to reason with him and just resorted to editing at his heels whenever I saw an error. He eventually [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2809534&oldid=2809278 got agitated] by this. [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2809538&oldid=2809534 I tried] asking for specifics about his complaints of me, but [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2809541&oldid=2809538 he claimed I already knew what I was doing] (I legitimately do not). After I [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2809547&oldid=2809541 responded a couple of times], he went on [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2809557&oldid=2809547 a tirade] against me.<br />
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If any, if not all of his grievances towards me are legitimate, then I do apologize immensely. But I sincerely believe I've been trying to be helpful and he just rebuffs it. Either way, could you please step in? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 07:39, 17 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
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:He also had [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2809565&oldid=2809561 this] to say recently. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 07:44, 17 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
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::{{user|Tiddlywinks}} has [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:PardescanSlowbro&diff=0&oldid=2809568 pitched in]. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 19:25, 17 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Harassment Procedure ==<br />
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Dear ForceFire,<br />
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I have felt personally vindicated and harassed by the user GrammarFreak01 on a continuous basis. I have pleaded to be left alone by the user and made them clearly aware of my feelings on their conduct towards myself. I was never under the assumption that any of my edits were to be untouched, though found the user in question deliberately followed and made, in some cases minor and pointless changes to over 40 pages (Episode 1 to 46 and some associated anime pages) directly after I did over recent days. The pages in question, at least the plot sections required some detail corrections but until my additions had not been looked at for several years. I had earlier requested significant action be taken against the user on Tiddlywinks page after an earlier spate of unexplained deletions to additions which were quickly reinstated by Tiddlywinks. Nothing came of this request on Tiddlywinks page, and the behaviour has persisted and worsened into vitriol that centres on GrammarFreak01's belief I referred to them as racist, though nothing of the sorts has occurred. I can no longer handle the barrage of blatancy and continuous harassment written on my discussion page by GrammarFreak01, and wish for those actions to end. At all times I have maintained my distance, and have thanked the user for their efforts when they have worked in collaboration with myself. Though their commentary and vicious attacks on my supposed sensitivities and linguistics must end. I have let things slide, despite my discontent, as to avoid further escalation. The user has been told to maintain their distance and respect previously written advices to improve their conduct, though such warnings remain unheeded and their pattern of behaviour towards me continues to intensify. I am completely naïve when it comes to Bulbapedia's bullying procedures, though require strong action be taken to ensure the harassment, belittlement and bullying that I have been exposed to by user GrammarFreak01 does not ever repeat.<br />
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I look forward to your reply, though will maintain my reserve and distance nonetheless,<br />
[[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 12:04, 17 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
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: Seeing as I have been the only one to receive any commentary it is best I be moved on. My claims have been outright ignored and also denied, despite the sheer amount of evidence to say otherwise. At the very least the user in question should have been told to remain at a distance, though has immediately gone on the attack again; though of course I am making everything up and overreacting as you pointed out. As such, please delete my account, this forum is no longer suitable to myself, my temperament or my skills. Thanks.[[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 13:44, 18 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Move trivia ==<br />
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How do I know if trivia about moves is notable? The stuff I add sometimes gets undone even if it's unique to that move. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 17:54, 18 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Depends on what the trivia is.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 05:34, 19 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
::I guess a recent example would be my attempt to add a trivium to thunder wave. It said that thunder wave is currently the only status move whose effectiveness depends on the type chart, so that ground Pokemon were immune because it was electric type and not because it was programmed separately. I thought it was unique and notable, but it was taken down. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 17:57, 19 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Erica124 yet again ==<br />
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{{user|Erica124}} has once again shown [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Walking_Pok%C3%A9mon&type=revision&diff=2810509&oldid=2808316 her inability] to use her force preview, despite [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AErica124&type=revision&diff=2808504&oldid=2771952 my earlier warning]. Maybe it's time to let her go? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 04:24, 19 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Perma-blocking her is for the staff to decide, not you. You also need to calm down when approaching "problem" users, yes their continuous wrongdoings can be frustrating, by try to keep a level head when dealing with them. As for blocking, it's not excessive. Can't do much if it's a once in a while thing.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 05:34, 19 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Oh, I thought you were part of staff? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 06:56, 19 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Also, just so you know, it's not a once-in-a-while thing. Erica124 made [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Walking_Pok%C3%A9mon&type=revision&diff=2756991&oldid=2756735 the same exact error] on the same article before, and [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AErica124&type=revision&diff=2808504&oldid=2771952 I did warn her about it once]. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 06:59, 19 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::I am. A perma block is something that needs to be discussed with other staff members first, not just immediately executed, unless the user we're dealing with is a vandal. <br />
::::Yes, but her recent spate of unpreviewed edits aren't happening as frequently as it did back in March. She's not editing daily. She only didn't use the preview button on one article today. The last one before today was June 15th, four days ago. And the one before that was last month. Compare it to March where it was almost daily. --[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 07:25, 19 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::Oh, okay. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 07:51, 19 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Reply ==<br />
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Anything to say on my page? [[User:RubyLeafGreenCrystal|RubyLeafGreenCrystal]] ([[User talk:RubyLeafGreenCrystal|talk]]) 06:39, 26 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Quick query==<br />
This is present in the trivia section on the Slowbro page:<br />
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*Slowbro's Pokédex entries state that if the Shellder is removed, it will revert to its Slowpoke form. <br />
**This is the only mentioning of a Pokémon possibly devolving anywhere in the Pokémon games, aside from a card in the game versions of the TCG.<br />
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The first part is fine, the second point is incorrect as Exeggutor can also revert. Should the second point be deleted entirely as it both untrue and not unique or altered to include a connection with Exeggutor<br />
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e.g Slowbro and Exeggutor are the only recorded cases of Pokémon capable of devolution [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 12:43, 28 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
:The second point may be removed as it is not unique to one Pokémon.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 13:19, 28 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
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:: No worries, thank you.[[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 13:40, 28 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Poké Problem characters list ==<br />
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OK, so my recent edit of [[SM080]] was taken down by you on the basis that, since the Pokémon I put on the appearance list appeared exclusively in the episode's Poké Problem, it doesn't deserve a mention (since Poké Problems are part of the episode apparently). I've also noticed that some edits on [[SM079]] also got erased on the same reason. Yet previous episodes' character lists feature characters that only appeared in the episodes' Poké Problem segments (for example Brock & Misty's siblings in [[SM042]]'s case and Harper and Sarah for [[SM071]]). As such, I have to wonder why its sometimes okay for characters and Pokémon that appeared exclusively in the Poké Problem of an episode to be mentioned on the character lists of said episode, but other times it's not OK? [[User:Pulsaro23|Pulsaro23]] ([[User talk:Pulsaro23|talk]]) 17:03, 29 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Then those need to removed from their episodes and any other episodes that list PokéProblem appearances needs to be fixed. PokéProblem is a segment similar to Who's That Pokémon, it is not part of the actual episode.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 13:57, 30 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
::While I'll agree that the Poké Problem and Who's that Pokémon segments share a similarity (the fact that they are tied to a situation/Pokémon from the episode), they are also very different. By that I mean that, while the WtP segment doesn't have any impact on the overall story of the episode, the bonus scenes shown after the Poké Problem segments expand upon the story of the episode (personally, I'd say they're very similar to the after-credits scenes form the Marvel & DC movies). For example, the Poké Problem segments for SM022 and SM057 feature scenes that resolve the episodes' ending cliffhangers, while others, like the ones for SM042 and SM030, flesh out more of the characters' personality and traits, as well as showing their relationships with other characters. As such, I'd say that, while Poké Problem segments are really part of the main episode, they still have some degree of importance, since the scenes shown at the end of those segments expand upon the main theme/story/characters of the episode (and as such, they should, as you say, "count"). Plus, in the case of the XY series, characters that appeared exclusively in its Poké TV segments were mentioned on the appearance list for its episodes (e.g. XY096, XY099, XY106 etc.). So why should the Poké TV segments receive special treatment and the Poké Problem ones not? [[User:Pulsaro23|Pulsaro23]] ([[User talk:Pulsaro23|talk]]) 14:37, 30 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Usage of the word "native" ==<br />
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{{user|PardescanSlowbro}} is [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Raichu_%28Pok%C3%A9mon%29&type=revision&diff=2813914&oldid=2812285 concerned] about using the word "native" to describe the residents of [[Alola]] in the {{p|Raichu}} article, due to its connection to indigenous peoples who have been plagued with stereotypes and also its purported implicit nature as a development discourse, thus making it potentially offensive to some people. I did not see anything wrong with the word's usage, however, since it can alternatively be used as a synonym for "resident" or "citizen", as I [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2813930&oldid=2813886 pointed out to him]. He's still concerned and has [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:PardescanSlowbro&diff=next&oldid=2813930 pointed out] that official literature no longer uses the word, seemingly making it taboo, even though I have still heard it being used in the context I just described.<br />
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Do you think it is appropriate to use "native" in any shape or form here? I'm not aware of any other articles here that use the word. I do acknowledge the potential issue of indigenous peoples being offended, but I don't think anyone will be offended given the word's context in the Raichu article. What do you think? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 06:12, 30 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
:It's fine to use the word "native". No need to think that someone will get offended by the word.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 09:44, 30 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
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:: You failed to acknowledge my concerns, and reverted my re-edit after GrammarFreak01 again deleted it. The latest addition aided the sentence in making it more concise, and as stated, the phrase 'the natives' is not used by the Pokémon Company in any of it literature, and probably for good measure. The term 'native' to mean local makes sense though should only be applied to describe an area or plant such as on the Vileplume page under the biology section. I would like another opinion as you have allowed a good edit to be reverted[[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 05:52, 1 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::It's very clear you changed the sentence because of your dislike of the word "native", whether it was a good change or not. You made the change because there was a word you didn't like. That's why it got reverted. There's is nothing wrong with using the word. The Pokémon Company not using it doesn't mean we can't use the word. You're thinking too much into the negative connotation of the word.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 06:00, 1 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::: Negative connotations is your justification? I saw the term and looked at it as an opportunity to make a positive change in line with one of Bulbapedia's major aims, inclusivity. Allowing the phrase 'the natives' is an issue as it is loaded language and may be used on other pages in much the same way. But correcting the term to something more global and neutral has become the issue, leaving aside the issues associated with using this turn of phrase in the first place, even though the original editor of course had no intention of being racist or degrading to particular demographics. By actually allowing this term to pass through with your acceptance, you are also condoning the use of this term in much the same way across potentially other articles and it may enter people's own thoughts on people of different backgrounds. Inclusivity was my motivation because of the so-called negative and very true reality for many individuals on this planet, that terms like this are harmful. I cannot imagine the editor's guide has any detail on this specific turn of phrase, though it would diffidently be designed to uphold inclusivity of all peoples.[[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 06:23, 1 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::You just admitted that the editor that added the word had no intention of being racist or degrading, if you already think that then it shouldn't be an issue. It's not offensive unless someone makes it offensive. The sentence is in no way written in an offensive manner, and no one will take it as an insult. You're looking to much into it.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 06:57, 1 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::I'm afraid you are wrong when it comes to the development discourse, it is an issue incidental or not. I am going to contact someone higher up to alert them to my concerns about the phrase, not word, "the natives", as you have plainly ignored the fact that such terminology is typically avoided due to taboo and discrimination surrounding it. Thanks [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 07:06, 1 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::When used correctly, "native" can also be "global and neutral". The only way it can be considered "loaded language" is if the person writing it in question ''makes'' it loaded language. I understand the history behind the word, and I also understand that the current political climate makes usage of certain words even more dangerous, but if the word has alternate meanings that are more acceptable, then I don't see why we must avoid using it, no matter how incidental the racism. If you have a problem with it, take it up with Merriam-Webster, not the admins here. If someone else does have a problem with it, we'll talk it out, see where it goes. But in the meantime, we can't simply just avoid using a certain word out of concern of potentially offending someone, even if the word in question is used in an appropriate, non-offensive context. I can't think of anyone else here who would think this word, or similarly loaded language of any kind, should be omitted in its entirety even though it's being used in a non-offensive context. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 07:11, 1 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::Exactly. The word is not used in a derogatory manner, it is completely fine. It's all about context, and in this case, the context is not offensive. The only person that has a problem with it is you, Pardescan. And we won't change it just because one person thinks it may be offensive. I'll repeat this again, because you seem to be ignoring it, '''you are looking too much into the negative aspects of the word'''.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 07:32, 1 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::It looks like [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AAbcboy&type=revision&diff=2814552&oldid=2806683 he's made good on his promise]. I've already pitched my counterargument. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 07:43, 1 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Template mainspace request ==<br />
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For the new Light trio page, there would need to be six Pokémon in the stats section, but there is no such template. I made a [[User:Celadonkey/Template:Groupstats/6|template]] for it and I wanted to know if I could mainspace it to add to the Light trio page. --[[User:Celadonkey|Celadonkey]] 14:05, 3 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Integration of Spaceworld Iterations of Existing Pokémon ==<br />
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I felt I would ask this here, since you're the one who linked the in-progress pages for the Pokémon Gold/Silver Spaceworld demo and you seem to know what the plans for them are, and the Gold and Silver Beta discussion page is rather cluttered and doesn't seem like a good place to catch the attention of anybody in particular.<br />
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There are a number of Pokémon added for the demo that did end up being released as official Pokémon, such as the Mareep, and Phanpy lines, Crobat, Espeon, Umbreon, Miltank, and others, who are present in the Spaceworld demo build, sometimes with different names and subtly-different designs. Additionally, there are Pokémon such as Haneko, Poponeko, and Wataneko, Gift, Blissey, Scissors, Leafeon, etc. that are very obviously earlier drafts of Pokémon that would appear in Generation II or later.<br />
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Are these Pokémon going to be integrated into the site differently compared to, say, Pokémon like Honoguma, Kurusu, Norowara, Wolfman, or Twinz, that were very clearly cut entirely and have yet to appear in any official, publicly-released Pokémon game?<br />
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As an aside, how are name labels going to be handled for Pokémon such as Kingdra, Girafarig, and Bellossom, whose final names are already present and in use in the demo? It seems to me that the sensible thing to do would be to label them with their final English names, since the names they have do have official English-language counterparts, and it would be clearer and easier to read for readers who might be unfamiliar with with the Japanese names of those Pokémon.<br />
[[User:Topaz Light|Topaz Light]] ([[User talk:Topaz Light|talk]]) 14:38, 3 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Right now, the focus should be filling out the userpages with information before all that. The staff will figure out how the handle them in the mean time.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 05:58, 4 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== A Small Request ==<br />
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Hi. A while ago I had asked to be put in the forcepreview group for editing. If possible, I think I'm ready to edit without needing to look at all my edits beforehand. If you could please take me out of forcepreview, and abuse as well, I would really appreciate it. Thank you. [[User:Veralann|<span style="color:#ffa900;">'''Incentive'''</span><span style="color:#00c7ff">''' (a.k.a. Veralann)'''</span>]] 19:57, 5 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I'll take you out of force preview, but not out of abuse. You have not made nearly enough mainspace edits to warrant be placed out of abuse. Being away for a month means absolutely nothing. If you want out of abuse, prove that you will contribute more to the mainspace by making a whole lot of edits there.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 05:04, 6 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Random question ==<br />
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On the Pokemon articles, why do the Pokedex entry, location, and sprite tables always put Emerald before FireRed and LeafGreen even though Emerald was released after? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 18:42, 12 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Probably to group the hoenn games together.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 05:18, 13 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Thanks for answering, I guess. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 06:03, 13 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Bulbapedia lagging again ==<br />
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It seems this site is becoming very laggy for me. Is there an issue with the site? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 06:28, 16 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Site's running smoothly for me. Probably something on your end.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 06:37, 16 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Well, it seems the site's running smoothly for me now. It might've had something to do with the connection. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 06:42, 16 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== List of locations by name ==<br />
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I personally think the page should stop excluding named routes. Even if we somehow made the definition clear, I still don't want people checking both that page and "list of routes" to see if either of them has the location they want. I also don't see a good reason for the exclusion. I think excluding cities and numbered routes is okay because people can tell if somewhere is a city or numbered route just by looking at the name. Even then, I'm leaning toward including cities because some places (like Two Island) don't end in "City" or "Town" and aren't obviously cities. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 05:40, 18 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Staff imitating user ==<br />
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{{u|Форс файре}} is a cyrillisation of your name. --[[User:Raltseye|<span style="color:#FF6464">R</span><span style="color:#11BB11">alts</span><span style="color:#6464FF">eye</span>]] [[User talk:Raltseye|prata med mej]] 18:47, 18 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Nintenchris5963 ==<br />
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The user {{user|Nintenchris5963}} added something to the [[Talk:Mt. Silver]] which I'm pretty sure isn't allowed on talk pages. Should the comment he made be removed or should it stay? (I'm only asking since it's normally not allowed to remove Talk Page comments). '''Ice''' [[User talk:The IceCream|Cream]] 10:46, 19 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:You can remove comments that breach the talk page policy.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 11:53, 19 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== "Faint" versus "Get knocked out" ==<br />
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"Faint" is the more technical term, so I try to change "knocked out" to "faint" wherever I can. Also, a few days ago, I tried to look for information about fainting by doing ctrl+f "faint" and couldn't find anything because the article said "knocked out" instead, so what I wanted took me a few minutes longer to find. I eventually made that edit in attempt to save time for anyone who might attempt the same thing in the future. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 15:03, 29 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:That sounds like a problem specifically for you. We are not going to cater the site whenever you face a problem. "Knocked out" carries the same meaning as "fainted", like what else could it possibly mean.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 15:21, 29 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
::The reasons why "fainted" is better than "knocked out", however insignificant, exist. Is there a reason why "knocked out" is better than "fainted"? And aren't we supposed to use technical terms over "fanmade terms" whenever possible? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 23:25, 29 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Neither is better, but both '''mean the same thing in spirit''' (unable to battle). It's not a necessary change. And "knocked out" is not "fan made" it's just a word used to substitute "fainted". Using a word that is not official doesn't make the word "fan made", that's just being ridiculous. Don't change things because you couldn't find something, just because you couldn't find something doesn't mean everyone else will face the same problem.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 02:57, 30 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::If neither is better, why do you care which one the article says? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 17:28, 30 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::Because it's an '''unnecessary change'''. Just because we use another word other than fainted, doesn't make that word fan-made. Like in a plot synopsis, we're not going to use the term "fainted" every time a Pokémon faints, we're going to use other terms like "knocked out" from time to time. Y'know, have a bit of variety in our articles.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 05:12, 31 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::That section was a game mechanic, not a plot synopsis. Aren't they different? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 17:45, 1 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::That's not the point. The point is, '''it's an unnecessary change'''. Stop reading what you want to read. It doesn't matter if it's not using the word "faint". Using another word other than "faint" doesn't make the article more inaccurate. It's just a word. You're thinking too much into it. No one will get confused by the term "knocked out". They'll know what it means.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 05:09, 2 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::I think what Force Fire tries to tell you isn't "don't change specifically this to specifically that", it's rather "don't change '''anything''' if the change doesn't clearly improve the article". The larger the number of edits, the more work there is for the servers; we should only change anything if it's justified. That's why he cares which one of the equally good terms stays — because changing it will unnecessarily overload servers. First come, first served in this case. [[User:Kikugi|Kikugi]] ([[User talk:Kikugi|talk]]) 15:37, 4 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Mallow Tsareena Sweet Scent ==<br />
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Hi. So in SM082 Mallow's Tsareena does something that some would describe as Sweet Scent, as it has a similar appearance and effect to how the move was used in its pre-evolved forms. PlayerKing95 has removed it because we don't have enough proof, despite the evidence pointing towards it. I, as well as another user, has reached out to him to discuss it. It has been more than a week now and he has ignored multiple messages to resolve this issue, and it is making me think that he will continue to ignore messages because it means the page can't be changed. Could I get some help with this? Thank you. --[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 14:48, 4 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I have given him a message. I currently have no strong opinions on this matter, generally we can say it's Sweet Scent because the animation is unlikely to change upon evolution. But I'm interested in what Playerking has to say.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 15:11, 4 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Thank you, looks like he finally responded to it. Based on his answer is it safe to put Sweet Scent back on, as there doesn't seem to be an argument against it.--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 16:14, 4 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Hello again. It's been a couple weeks and I was wondering what the status of Sweet Scent is. Thanks.--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 13:59, 30 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Random question ==<br />
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When I type just about anything in the search bar, the autocomplete suggestions always appear in the same order. For example, typing only "user:" always displays "User:Tiddlywinks", "User:Force Fire", "User:Raltseye", "User:SnorlaxMonster", etc. in that order. Do you have any idea what determines that order? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 04:12, 6 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Pretty sure the ordering is just random.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 04:18, 6 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
::If it was completely random, would it still put more active users closer to the top? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 04:35, 6 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::It's probably fixed, random but fixed. The listing probably wouldn't change regardless of how active a user is.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 04:51, 6 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::It could be fixed by the most visisted user pages. --[[User:Raltseye|<span style="color:#FF6464">R</span><span style="color:#11BB11">alts</span><span style="color:#6464FF">eye</span>]] [[User talk:Raltseye|prata med mej]] 11:00, 6 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Reason ==<br />
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Could you give a summary rather than only reverting a contribution without reason, that's irritating. {{unsigned|KyleRGiggs}}<br />
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:He's reverting you because this is the mandatory writing style for a recurring character in the anime and you're pointlessly changing it at [[Professor Burnet]]. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 04:45, 6 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Exactly. Your reasoning for removing it didn't even make sense, and if you actually read other anime character articles, other recurring characters also use the term "reappears".--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 04:51, 6 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::So DID both of you read the article CAREFULLY why "Since their marriage, Burnet has moved in with Kukui and Ash and '''has made regular appearances''' in the Sun & Moon series ever since." is present in the sentence? So why don't Professor Kukui being "reappear" for every episode? Regular appearancing should not be recurring? I don't get the sense. {{unsigned|KyleRGiggs}}<br />
::::Just because someone makes regular appearances, doesn't mean we can't use the word "reappear". Besides, the two don't appear that regularly, especially for Burnet who only appeared once in between SM071-80 (not counting the PokeProblem segment) and Kukui only physically appears four times in that 10 episode span. And sign your comments.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 05:18, 6 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::I did read that sentence. To be honest, that sentence needs to be reworded. As Force Fire said, it's not as regular as that sentence implies. If she did appear "regularly", then she'd actually be a main character, and then the need to list every episode she appears in is diminished. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 05:46, 6 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Random stuff ==<br />
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Since I last contacted you, I've come up with a few new things to ask every now and then, but they keep slipping my mind when I don't talk about them. Hence why I've decided to dedicate this section of the talk page for subjects that I come up with and need admin help for, which means that I may sometimes come back here when I come up with something new. But anyway, let's get started with the most recent subject I've come up with: the [[Looker]] Bureau post-game story from {{pkmn|X and Y}}. Since the [[Delta Episode]] and [[Episode RR]] have their own pages, shouldn't the Looker Bureau storyline also get its own article? I think it would deserve it.<br><br />
Oh, and speaking of new articles: has my suggestion of splitting the Kantonian Gym and Tide Song Hotel into their own location articles been moving forward? Has it received enough approval to actually be done some day? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 10:17, 6 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I did bring them (Kantonian Gym and Tide Song Hotel) up with the other staff members, didn't really come to a solid conclusion. For me, they both appear to have very little information text wise (from what is already there), and what we don't want are articles that are just one paragraph and a whole bunch of templates. I think it'd be good to create them in your userspace to see how the page will look.<br />
:The Looker saga could be made into it's own page. Make on in your userpage so the staff can decide if it's needed.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 05:22, 7 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
::I've created the page for the Kantonian Gym [[User:FinnishPokéFan92/Kantonian Gym|here]], and I also intend to start making the Tide Song Hotel and Looker Bureau pages as soon as I find the time for it. In the meantime, though, there's a couple of other things I would like to bring up.<br />
::Firstly, [[Talk:Serena (game)#Father? (revived)|this talk]] regarding the X and Y rival's father. Evidence heavily suggests that Calem/Serena's father is a Veteran Trainer who can be found in [[Snowbelle City]], but for the last bit of confirmation, we need someone who can read Japanese. Could you ask someone to help with that?<br />
::And secondly... Secondly... Well, this is ''exactly'' why I should come here to vent ideas out of my head more often. I've forgotten my second point. Embarrassing, I know, but I'll come back to it once I remember it.<br />
::--[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 07:22, 10 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Ah, I remember now! Some time ago, I created a category for {{cat|Legendary and Mythical Pokémon locations}}, my intention being to have it attached to the {{template|legendarylocations}} template. However, said template is protected, so I'd need help from a user like you to put it there. Could you do it? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 08:59, 10 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::I've brought the Kantonian Gym page to the others. There was talks of the Serena's father issue a while back, I think one of the staff members found in game text supporting it, though I asked again to be sure. Navigation templates only need the Navigation template category, the category you provided would go on the actual location pages.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 09:59, 11 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::Thanks, looking forward to the results.<br />
::::Yes, it's been proven that the gender pronoun used by the supposed father changes depending on the player character's gender, but we now also have links to two Japanese videos to see if this occurs in the Japanese version too, which could count as the final piece of evidence, and is why we need someone who can understand Japanese to confirm it.<br />
::::I mean like this: <nowiki><includeonly>[[Category:Legendary and Mythical Pokémon locations]]</includeonly></nowiki> When a category is attached to a template like this, it will only apply to the pages where said template is used at, not the template itself. That's what I would like you to do, if possible.<br />
::::--[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 10:56, 11 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::I've now finished the Tide Song Hotel page as well. You can find it [[User:FinnishPokéFan92/Tide Song Hotel|here]]. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 18:20, 11 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::Excuse the delay. The Looker bureau post game story can be made, with the title "Looker events" as that is what it's called in-game, according to another staff member. Haven't gotten much feedback regarding the other stuff that you brought up. I'll keep you updated regarding those.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 07:14, 15 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::Thanks for the update. Will do. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 08:45, 15 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::I haven't started working on the Looker evernts yet, but I haven't forgotten about them. In the meantime, though, there's an issue that has been bugging me for years now, which nobody has appparently done anything to fix yet. I'm talking about Generation VI models. Not only are we still missing most VS models from at least one set of the Generation VI core series games, we are also still missing a couple VS models: [[Archie]] and [[Zinnia]] are missing their VS models altogether (they've been using temporary ones for years now), and {{an|Brendan}} and {{an|May}} are missing their VS models with a [[Key Stone|Mega Bracelet]]. I've also wondered if the difference between the {{tc|Team Flare Grunt}}s who are striking a pose and those who aren't would warrant alternate VS models for them, but that's a lesser priority in my books.<br />
::::::::And, as for a more recent case of the same issue, we're still missing several US/UM VS models as well, including the {{tc|Master & Apprentice}} and {{tc|Sparring Partners}} VS models and [[Gladion]]'s VS model with a Z-Power Ring. Could you bring this up with people who could possibly fix these issues? I've tried to do it myself a couple times over the years, but it has never lead to anything. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 09:02, 20 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::Oh, almost forgot! [[Giovanni]]'s first VS model is a bit dark, and [[Professor Kukui]] is also missing his model with the Z-Power Ring. PS. Has the Serena/Calem father topic been solved? Can it be considered confirmed? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 11:18, 20 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::The VS sprites are something that is still ongoing, it just gets lower and lower on the priority list whenever something new comes around. It's something that will be done, "when" I can't really say for sure. Users are free to upload the models themselves, granted they get it from somewhere that isn't a fan site.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 11:54, 24 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::Figures. I'm just a guy who hates incompleteness, so these lingering cases of incompleteness tend to bug me a lot. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 12:17, 24 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::::For a while now already, I've been planning a massive edit project, where I go over '''every single''' page with a Stadium and Stadium 2 party template, and change the number of Poké Balls in the template(s) to 3 instead of 6 (since only three of the six Pokémon are always used per battle), as well as remove the word "Pokémon" from the game name, as it isn't that way in any other game party templates either. But that's why I've come here for you this time: in preparation for this project, could you edit {{template|Party/Single}} to include codes for Stadium and Stadium 2 in the game name section? And while we're on the topic of this template, do the Battle Chatelaines alone warrant a combined code for X, Y, OR, and AS, and the few version-exclusive Battle Tree Trainers from Generation VII codes for S/US and M/UM, respectively? PS. I hope you understood that last part. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 17:51, 3 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::::Thanks. I saw you just doing this, and I'm honestly really grateful for it, but in case you didn't know, when we refer to "Pokémon Stadium", the link should go to "[[Pokémon Stadium (English)]]", instead of just "[[Pokémon Stadium]]". --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 07:37, 5 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::::Never mind. You noticed that yourself. Sorry. XP --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 07:38, 5 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
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{{indent}}Added Stadium/2 to the template. As for changing the Poké Ball number, I'm iffy about it. I get what you're saying, but they still have six possible Pokémon. As for the last request, I assume you mean for the party template?, if so, they're already coded in.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 07:40, 5 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Yeah. Personally, I'm inclined to keep the six Poké Balls too, but, as you can see {{DL|Professor Kukui|Battle Royal Dome|here}}, for example, some user(s) apparently think that the number of shown Poké Balls should be equal to the maximum number of Pokémon that can be used from said selection of Pokémon at a time. Hence why most [[Pokémon World Tournament|PWT]] teams have six Balls, since all six Pokémon are used if the [[Triple Battle]] format is in used. Then there's also the case where the pool of possible Pokémon is greater than six, but I can understand that one.<br />
:As for the codes, I meant as in a code of "XYORAS" turning out as "X, Y, Omega Ruby, and Alpha Sapphire", and codes "SUS" and "MUM" turning out as "Sun and Ultra Sun" and "Moon and Ultra Moon", respectively. However, as I said, the former would only apply to the four {{tc|Battle Chatelaine}}s, while the latter ones would only apply for the few [[Battle Tree]] Special Trainers who are version-exclusive, so I wondered if that's a good enough reason for those codes to be created. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 09:26, 5 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::For the Kukui article, I think the line "Master Rank challenge of the Battle Royal, using three of the following Pokémon" will suffice. If they're confused, then they are just flat out not reading the article. As for the stadium articles, I think a similar line could work.<br />
::Ah I see, I've added the code for those.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 09:45, 5 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Thanks a ton! Now there's nothing stopping me from starting my grand edit project! And it's going to be even easier I expected, thanks to you!<br />
:::Nice work... Except that you made a small typo. You accidentally wrote "SUM" instead of "MUM" for "Moon and Ultra Moon". --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 11:18, 5 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::Another small typo found. The link for Stadium 2 leads just to "Pokémon Stadium". You forgot the "2" from the end. Whoops...<br />
::::Also, another unrelated thing: in Pokémon Colosseum, the player character starts the game off with a number of healing items in their Bag. Does this qualify as a method of acquiring these items for their respective articles? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 16:52, 5 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::Fixed. As for the items, I'd say those count.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 07:02, 6 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::I think we need a link template to make the Alola game links easier to create, as writing "<nowiki>[[Pokémon Sun and Moon|Pokémon Sun, Moon]], [[Pokémon Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon|Ultra Sun, and Ultra Moon]]</nowiki>" for a link version of "Pokémon Sun, Moon, Ultra Sun, and Ultra Moon" again and again can get tiresome, plus it eats up a lot of unnecessary space. I'd do it myself, but I'm not sure how, so I've come to ask for your help again. Can you do it, or at least ask someone else to do it? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 09:30, 17 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::Took a while to remember what the template was, but [[Template:Game4]] exists, though I edited it to add USUM. Typing the code <nowiki>{{game4|Sun|Moon|Sun|Moon}}</nowiki> should give you this: {{game4|Sun|Moon|Sun|Moon}}.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 11:54, 19 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::Thank you! Also, another issue regarding link templates: when adding a link to a Pokémon's alternate form, it's usually written as <nowiki>{{DL|List of Pokémon with form differences|<Pokémon>|<Form name>}}</nowiki>, which, like the previous thing you fixed, is a bit lengthy, especially if done repeatedly. So I've been thinking about the creation of a link template to fix the issue, going something like this: <nowiki>{{form|<Pokémon>|<Form name>}}</nowiki>, which would lead to the correct section of [[List of Pokémon with form differences]], based on the contents of the second slot (the one with <Pokémon> in my example here). Do you think this could/should be made? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 13:58, 19 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::Also, I just noticed: your edit on {{template|game4}} was a bit flawed. The "Sun and Moon" part of the link includes the word "Versions", even though it's not supposed to. I saw you fixed this issue regarding the "Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon" part of the link, but it seems you still missed something. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 06:04, 21 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::Did you miss my above messages? Or have you just been too busy to answer yet? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 08:55, 26 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::I purposely left the "versions" in the first link as I wasn't confident whether adding a switch would mess the template up and mess up other pages that are using the template, so I didn't risk it. I'll bring up to idea for a "form template" to the other staff members, though I think it's a fine idea.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 12:45, 26 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::::1) Oh. I see. Well, I've already used the template on a couple pages, so now what? 2) Thank you. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 13:32, 26 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::::Just leave the ones you've added. I'll tweak the template in a userspace at some point. As for the form template, [[User:Abcboy/Form|Abcboy]] has already made a template in his userpage, that'll be under consideration.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 13:03, 27 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
{{indent}}Thank you. Also, whoa. It appears that this template idea wasn't as new as I thought. Let's hope it'll finally get mainspaced some day. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 14:04, 27 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Thanks for helping me out with {{user|EternalDragonX}}. He also left a reply to your response already, just in case you haven't noticed yet. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 17:45, 2 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::He still doesn't believe either of us. Could you do something about it? And, if possible, could you continue the talk with him on his page instead of mine? PS. His refusal to use big capital letters in talk pages irks me. I know there's technically nothing wrong with it, but if you see fit to notify him about it too, then please do. If you don't, I won't hold it against you. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 16:18, 3 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::A few days ago, he started arguing with me about [[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92#viridian gym|another subject (s)]]. Please help me. I'm seriously growing tired of this. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 18:39, 6 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::I'll leave a message on their talk page.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 03:01, 7 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::Thank you. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:55, 7 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Undoing changes ==<br />
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Please, don't revert changes as I add information that a [[Focus Sash]] can be stolen from [[Iris]]' {{p|Haxorus}} during all the battles. I don't want to cause an edit war, but I placed the information in the correct row ({{gameabbrev5|B2W2}}). [[User:TheICTLiker4|TheICTLiker4]] ([[User talk:TheICTLiker4|talk]]) 06:56, 12 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:And as Finnish said, you don't permanently keep the item. It doesn't count.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 07:14, 12 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Status ==<br />
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What does "status" mean when used to describe Bulbapedia users? Like, how do we know the difference between "hiatus" and "inactive"? How long of a break counts as a hiatus? What does "X" mean? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 01:31, 24 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:If someone is on "hiatus", that means they are away for some time but will return eventually, how long the hiatus is differs between staff members. "Inactive" is detailed {{bp|Inactive Staff|here}}. X denotes someone of high authority, they may not be very active but they are still very important staff members.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 11:54, 24 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
::If someone says he/she/it is on hiatus and doesn't come back, then how long does it usually take for other people to change that person's status to "inactive"? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 18:18, 24 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::That decision is up to the Editor in Chief.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 04:34, 25 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::Okay thanks. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 00:07, 26 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Possible inappropriate name ==<br />
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Someone under {{user|RAEVEisdumb}} was created after someone called {{user|RAEVE}} was just created. Should it be flagged? '''Ice''' [[User talk:The IceCream|Cream]] 19:43, 24 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I've blocked the former but left the latter unblocked. I ''could'' block them both since they both share the same IP, but since RAEVE hasn't done anything yet, I'll leave them unblocked unless they become a problem.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 04:34, 25 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== PardescanSlowbro again ==<br />
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I have tried to offer [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2840364&oldid=2826236 constructive criticism] on PardescanSlowbro's spelling of "compliment" in [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Tyson_%28Hoenn%29&type=revision&diff=2840264&oldid=2834631 this edit], but once again, he responded with paranoia, a refusal to cooperate, and accusations of edit-stalking ([https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2840597&oldid=2840364] [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2840645&oldid=2840640] [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2840648&oldid=2840647] [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2840661&oldid=2840649]). In the last diff, he even had the gall to tell me I shouldn't be contacting anyone if that's how I'm going to talk to people. This is in spite of me [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2840647&oldid=2840645 admitting that my original message unintentionally did not come across as constructive and apologizing for that]. I cannot even talk about the most basic constructive criticism with this guy, and it is so frustrating. I was actually hoping I could have a more in-depth discussion about his writing style in regards to his recent edits, but given that he's always reacting like this in some form or fashion, I cannot muster the courage to talk to him, no matter what the subject is. I can't even properly talk to him about the minor stuff (silly, I know, but I can't even talk to him about the major stuff in the first place). I talk to other users the same way I'm talking to him, yet he's always the one who responds with hostility and vitriol. I'm really not trying to be malicious towards him or anything like that. Can you please comment on this? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 08:59, 29 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Grammarfreak at it again ==<br />
I know, you're very busy. But it seems that Grammarfreak are trying everything to post his/her claim are right. While everyone is wrong. Especially, when he illegally created it voice actress article without admin permission. Especially for trying to make it sounds he taken command of everything. If you can, could you please ban him/her. I tired of his aggression and persistent changing the sentences to be great. Thank you! [[User:Singaporean|Singaporean]] ([[User talk:Singaporean|talk]]) 02:57, 5 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
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:[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ASingaporean&type=revision&diff=2843736&oldid=2839035 I already told you], I didn't know you already had a userspace article for [[Sumire Morohoshi]] in the works, and I'm sorry about that! That aside, how is that "illegal"? I admitted it was a mistake caused by a lazy eye. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 03:18, 5 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:: You know, you create with one article after another without admin permission is already officially illegal. That is also included disrespectful to me after all the hard work, I have done and learns to make a better article. But it seems that, you had a history of pattern aggressive toward everybody. I wasn't surprised, your primary target now is me. It wasn't take every long in a next few day. You will ditch my all my userspace edited and try to create one to waste more page to fill in the empty to draw attention to everyone. Remind you again, this is not your playground of editing. [[User:Singaporean|Singaporean]] ([[User talk:Singaporean|talk]]) 03:28, 5 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::A while back, I [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:Tiddlywinks#Creating_Japanese_voice_actor_articles asked] {{U|Tiddlywinks}} about the process of creating VA articles, and they directed me to [[Bulbapedia:Project VA]] without mentioning anything else. The main project page ''never'', ''EVER'' said anything about having to consult with the admins first before the creation of an individual article, and trust me, I read through that thing thoroughly. I've been at this since last month, and no one has given me any warnings or blocked me for creating so many VA articles during that time. This is in comparison to [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:GrammarFreak01/Archive_1#Creating_pages the warning I got] from Tiddlywinks hours after I created the [[Ash's Pikachu (M20)]] article (which was what motivated me to ask Tiddlywinks about the VA articles in the first place). Because of all that, I took it that my actions were already cleared by Tiddlywinks and I didn't even have to worry about asking the admins any further.<br />
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:::If it was supposed to be common sense for me to just alert the admins about the creation of any kind of article beforehand, then I do apologize for that. I was simply following everything that was laid out for me at [[Bulbapedia:Project VA]], with the misconception that Tiddlywinks was alright with everything simply because I contacted him only once before my article creation spree. And ''trust me'', I am now reviewing all of the other userspace articles you've got so I will know which VAs you are already working on. I'm so sorry if you felt cheated and that your hard work on the Morohoshi userspace article was wasted because of me. I swear, I was not aware of that userspace article, and that is not going to happen again, I promise. Especially now that you've got your own eye on me and my conduct. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 03:48, 5 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::Regardless of your apologize to me or not. The action will be leave to [[User:Force Fire|Force Fire]] to dealt with. Even though of the risk for me being banned one more time again. I also satisfied. [[User:Singaporean|Singaporean]] ([[User talk:Singaporean|talk]]) 03:57, 5 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::I'm well aware that it's all up to Force Fire, given the severity of your complaints against me. I'm just trying to explain what you would call my more egregious actions. I at least have that right to do so, don't I? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 03:59, 5 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
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GrammarFreak already clarified that he didn't see your userpage, Singaporean. No need to overreact the way you did. He apologized, move on. Anyone can create a VA article, granted that it fits the notability criteria. Users can make it on the mainspace, '''only if''' they are capable of making it up to Bulbapedia standards upon making the article (to which I feel GrammarFreak did). And don't take that as an invitation to create VA article on the mainspace, Singaporean.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 07:18, 5 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:If you say so, then I will go ahead and create all my remaining work directly without the need of my userspace. Thanks. [[User:Singaporean|Singaporean]] ([[User talk:Singaporean|talk]]) 12:30, 5 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::No. I '''did not''' say you can make them in the mainspace. I literally said it in my response. The ones you made on your userspace still needs to be approved. And that is '''NOT''' how you move userpages to the mainspace.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 12:59, 5 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::My apologized for my rush work. I didn't know about it. It is already almost a year and I didn't heard anything about you and the other approved my work to main article is just really frustrating. I do hope, you can give me an answer after a few days later. Thank you! [[User:Singaporean|Singaporean]] ([[User talk:Singaporean|talk]]) 13:05, 5 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== A strange user talk page ==<br />
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Hello and sorry if I'm bothering you, but I started to wonder, if such content as [[User talk:CarterLumpkins|this]] is OK to have on one's user talk page. This doesn't seem to aggressively promote some service, thought it does have a weblink. However, the topic is so NOT Pokémon... is this allowed? Is this evidence of a spammer? The user page was created three minutes before the talk page. Thank you! [[User:Kikugi|Kikugi]] ([[User talk:Kikugi|talk]]) 12:33, 6 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Dealt with. Those are usually spambots.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 12:55, 6 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Search bar problems ==<br />
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I just started having a problem with the search bar at the left of my screen. Every time I type something in, it won't show me a list of options, and every time I try to look up a list of pages containing a certain word(s), it won't show the lists. Instead, there's a message that reads, "An error has occurred while searching: We could not complete your search due to a temporary problem. Please try again later." I definitely know I'm not misspelling anything. What's going on with that? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 04:15, 9 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Staff are aware of the issue and will try to get to the bottom of it asap.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 05:01, 9 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Okay. That's good to know. Thanks for the heads-up. :) [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 05:06, 9 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Internal error ==<br />
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Occasionally, since about last week, I've been getting these "Internal error" messages every time I try to submit an edit. I manage to get through it, but the frequency of these messages is starting to increase and I don't know what's going on. This is an example of the "Internal error" message I tend to get.<br />
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[8e5e0cf8d713375f0b2bb8b3] 2018-09-17 04:55:29: Fatal exception of type "Error"<br />
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Would you mind getting to the bottom of this? Thank you. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 04:57, 17 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
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:I'm still getting these messages with intensifying frequency. Here's the latest one:<br />
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[d52bf67181c53700b65c1f44] 2018-09-18 04:52:01: Fatal exception of type "Error"<br />
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:[[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 04:53, 18 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Staff are aware of the issues and are looking into it.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 05:58, 18 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Thank you. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 19:19, 18 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
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::::I'm not sure what's being done to rectify this problem, nor do I presume to know, but for the record, I'm still having these problems. Here's the latest one I got:<br />
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[39026dee922ac834907c8f6e] 2018-09-20 07:23:46: Fatal exception of type "Error"<br />
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::::[[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 07:25, 20 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
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:::::My apologies, but this problem is still happening for me. Is the staff still investigating the issue? Or did they think they found a solution and implemented it already? Not that I doubt anyone's effectiveness in this matter. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 23:43, 12 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::Still haven't heard back on whether the problem was fixed or not, but I'll ping the higher ups about the issue.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 04:31, 13 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::Okay, thanks. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 04:45, 13 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Transfer-only moves and ability changes ==<br />
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Can we add a section to every Pokemon page that lists all the moves the Pokemon can know only if it originated in an earlier generation (move tutors, old TMs, etc.)? Cross-checking multiple pages for this information is annoying. Second, can we change the Pokemon infobox template to make pages like {{p|Pelipper}} clear that Pelipper can't have drizzle in Generations 3-6? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 18:06, 24 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Zlblosser18 ==<br />
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A little heads-up, it looks like in spite of [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AZlblosser18&type=revision&diff=2853997&oldid=2853990 your advice], Zlblosser18 is still [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Charmander_%28Pok%C3%A9mon%29&type=revision&diff=2855104&oldid=2855092 removing templates]. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 20:22, 30 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
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:It also seems like they're disregarding [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Zlblosser18&diff=prev&oldid=2855095 my advice] that titles like [[Pokémon Origins]] and [[Pokémon Generations]] are not traditionally italicized here. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 20:25, 30 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Looks like TiddlyWinks has given them a final warning. --[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 04:33, 1 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Seems like it. I'll withdraw the complaint, then. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 05:02, 1 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== floor order cont ==<br />
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im confused, youre saying the ordering will be RBY>GSC>FRLG>HGSS regardless of floor order? so do you mean list all rby items before gsc or put them together if there are two items on the same floor? yes, i am using common sense by not putting an item deep in the dungeon first, but what if said deep item were to be on one of the earlier floors if not the earliest? then floor order dictates i would have to list said item before many of the other items i pass by before i even get to it. thats why floor order is bad. i know were not a walkthrough, but we have to list the items in one way or another, and like you said, it should make sense atleast right? I understand that it is not a "high" priority. but if i can list in an order that makes sense, why not? is floor order really a higher priority? again im trying to say that floor order is bad. --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 12:58, 4 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Yes, the game order will still be the same regardless of the template going by floor order. If an items exist in more than one set of games and is in the same location, the games get put together.<br />
:Just so we're on the same page here, when you say "deep" you mean tucked in the furthest part of the first floor, right? Because there's no way the place I just described could be the first thing you come across. If you mean if the player traverses from the opposite end (say Victory Road, Pokemon League entrance to Route 22 entrance), then that's not really important. The location ordering should be from the player's first run through of the area (so Route 22 to Pokemon League).<br />
:Sorting by floor order helps users see what items are available at a certain floor in one grouping. It'd actually be ''more'' confusing if the listing were to alternate between "Floor 1" and "Floor 2", especially if there's suddenly a "Basement floor" in between them.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 14:43, 4 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::may i suggest instead of RBY>GSC>FRLG>HGSS, that it be RBY>FRLG>GSC>HGSS? because rby frlg are basically the same games and a lot of the time they will have items that are common to all of them, but also a lot of the time frlg will have some new items, and shoving gsc items in between would not only look weird, but confusing.<br />
::yes i mean for example tucked away in a place on the first floor that also serves as the back exit. therefore in a regular playthrough, most players would pick up said item last, since you run by every other item before it. victory road is a perfect example of what im talking about. of course i wouldnt list the items as if they were going from indigo plateau to route 22. that makes no sense. if you look at the list: https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Victory_Road_(Kanto)#Items i list guard spec ultra ball and full restore on floor 2 after overheat on floor 3. why? because those 3 items are grouped in an area in floor 2 that can only be accessible after passing through the entirety of floor 3; the area in this case being the exit. so in my head, this ordering makes perfect sense. blindly following floor order would mean i would list these items before the max revive, which again i dont think makes much sense since we talked about how they literally cant be come acrossed before the floor 3 items. --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 18:11, 4 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Any unpredictable order is bad. A reasonable person would generally expect to see everything for a floor together. If I see several items that start with something like 1F, 2F, 1F, 3F, 5F (or whatever), it just looks messy to me. Nothing that extreme may occur in the games, but that's what your logic would demand. (And less extreme examples are still messy IMO.)<br />
:::It's not exactly hard to look back to the "end" of a floor if there were items you just couldn't get to when you passed through the first part (if floors are grouped). But if floors aren't grouped, then if I see several items starting with "2F" and then that turns into "3F", I'm gonna think those were all the items on 2F in the list, and that can be very confusing. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 00:34, 5 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::altho i still believe that 1F, 2F, 1F, 3F, 5F (or whatever) would be better if it made sense that you'd get the items that way, i have argued my point to the fullest and i can respect it if you disagree. however, still waiting on you force fire to answer my question about listing the items in region order rather than game order. aka kanto>johto>hoenn etc. over rby>gsc>frlg etc. --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 00:57, 5 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::Ordering the games by RBY>FRLG>GSC>HGSS is fine, some (or a majority of) articles are like this.<br />
:::::So we are talking about the same thing, that brings up the question of why you are concerned about having to place an item that is deep in a dungeon as the first item. As I said, the order should be listed on the players first run through of the area. You don't need to worry about those that'll traverse the opposite way.<br />
:::::As for items that can only be accessed via another floor, group those under all the other Floor 2 items and say in the descriptor that it requires traversing through Floor 3. Putting those items below Floor 3 makes it a touch confusing, and also a bit walkthrough-ish. I guess it's just me being condescending, but players should be able figure that stuff (having to traverse through floor 3 to get to some floor 2 items) for themselves. And ass TiddlyWinks said, listing the items by floor looks much more cleaner and easier on the eyes.<br />
:::::Also, I saw and checked that you changed the template to be one big listing rather than separate listings. Maybe that should've been discussed first before making the edit. --[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 04:47, 5 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::i am concerned about having to place an item that is deep as the first item because if for example it was one of, if not the only, items on the first accessible floor (say floor 1), but not accessible unless you traverse one of the other floors (say floor 2), then we gotta list it first even tho you probably get the other items on floor 2 before it. you already answered this in your 3rd paragraph. like i said to tiddlywinks if u guys feel like floor order is cleaner then fine. i also like your solution of putting in the descriptor that it requires traversing through floor 3. i think ill do that. --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 14:33, 5 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::about putting in the descriptor that obtaining an item requires traversing another floor.. would you just list that as a sentence at the end? or would you like put it in an asterisk at the end? --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 15:24, 5 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::Examples of these sorts of explanations/directions can be seen on pages like [[Frost Cavern]], [[Victory Road (Kalos)]], and [[Haina Desert]]. The descriptions should be easily readable, which tooltips are not (mobile users cannot read them at all AFAIK). The only reason to consider a tooltip would be if the detail is exceptionally long. (Because a very long description is, itself, also not the most readable thing.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:24, 6 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Satomi Kōrogi ==<br />
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I need help moving the [[Satomi Kōrogi]] article. The romanization seems to prefer using Satomi K'''oo'''rogi instead but I am unable to move the article because of a redirect interfering. Thank you. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 22:33, 6 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Moved.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 03:01, 7 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Thanks! :D [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 03:18, 7 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Transfer-only moves and ability changes ==<br />
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Can we add a section to every Pokemon page that lists all the moves the Pokemon can know only if it originated in an earlier generation (move tutors, old TMs, etc.)? Cross-checking multiple pages for this information is annoying. Second, can we change the Pokemon infobox template to make pages like {{p|Pelipper}} clear that Pelipper can't have drizzle in Generations 3-6? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 20:34, 10 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I personally see no need in listing transferable moves, it's common sense. Of course a Pokémon that only knows X move in Gen III is going to know it if you transfer it to a Gen vII game. And it's really not much of a nuisance. Want a to know a Pokémon's moveset from a specific generation? go to the separate learnlists. Want a specific move? go to the specific move article. It's not ''that'' annoying.<br />
:The infobox templates is currently in discussions of an update. The update will accommodate having more abilities listed. Have patience.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 07:05, 11 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::The whole purpose of learnset sections was to put every move that a Pokemon can know in one place, right? If the learnset sections are not doing that, what other purpose do they have? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 19:47, 12 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::It's to list moves a Pokémon can learn in the '''current''' generation. Transferring moves isn't exactly "learning a move by level up or breeding in Generation VII". If a Pokémon can only learn a move in a previous generation, go to that generation's learnset or the move's article. You're only clicking one link, not 500. It's not as mundane as you're making it out to be.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 04:29, 13 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::It appears to me you're just saying how another question is easy to answer.<br />
::::If you're seriously interested in this (not just stalling), let me suggest (with best intentions) to just try to answer "What moves can Pikachu '''''know''''' in a copy of, say, USUM?" by browsing Bulbapedia. I currently need more than 5 minutes, and I would consider this ''the'' central use case, and probably the most important question for competitive play. (It's not even easy to be confident the resulting list was exhaustive, so if you'd like, you may even post your list here, and let me see if I have any more.) [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 09:46, 13 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::Saying "what can Pikachu learn in USUM" is literally the same as saying "what can Pikachu learn in Gen VII". Not Gen II. Not Gen IV. Saying a specific game means you're looking for a learnset from a specific generation. And it certainly does not take "more than 5 minutes" to find what you want. If you know what you're looking for, you have a Pokémon and move/generation in mind, it should only take you one minute top. A few clicks. You're not going to be scouring the entire site just to look for one move.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 11:43, 13 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::Neither of these question were asked, you just continue to answer them.<br />
::::::Pikachu can ''know'' moves in USUM that it cannot ''learn'' in USUM, {{m|Mega Kick}}, for example. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 12:10, 13 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::It's called a learnlist for a reason, moves a Pokémon can learn in a game or generation. Of course it'll know a move from a previous generation if you transfer it to a current game, that does not need to be spelled out. No one is going to think that it won't know the move once they transfer the Pokémon. If users want to know what moves it can learn previously, they can browse the site.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 12:24, 13 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
{{indent}}I'm not sure you understand me/us (or even try to, really). So, just for me to get this clear: Are you saying that, in your opinion, a) the question "What moves can <species> '''''know''''' in <game/generation>?" is not relevant, not worthwhile for Bulbapedia to easily provide an answer to, and that b) species pages should only provide moves a Pokémon can ''learn'' in the current generation? [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 14:14, 13 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:It's not hard to find what you're looking for, all you're doing is clicking on one link, totaling up to a few seconds. If you had to go through page after page, I can get why it'd be annoying or hard. But it's not.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 14:39, 13 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::I'm beginning to feel confident you're just stalling. I'm asking questions, I don't get answers. <br />
::I'll just continue trying to keep this simple: Please list all moves Pikachu can know (in a USUM game). If it's not hard, I'd be glad to hear that it's easily possible using Bulbapedia (and preferably also how). Also (and in particular if you're unable or unwilling to list all of Pikachu's moves), please answer the two questions I just asked, a) and b). [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 15:02, 13 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Bulbapedia is not a strategy guide. Comp is not our focus.<br />
:::You're highlighting comp as your reason for a promoting "moves a [species] can know" angle. But there's a bunch of comp stuff we're never going to do. We're not doing tier lists. We're not gonna tell you what "good" movesets are. Comp is no reason that we would "have" to accomodate anything.<br />
:::That's not to say we're thoroughly hostile to a list of "legacy" moves.<br />
:::But kind of like ForceFire has said, learnlists ARE for what a Pokemon can learn ''within'' a generation. It doesn't ''strictly'' make sense to include "legacy" moves; that's a concern that comes from a pretty specific focus like comp/challenges.<br />
:::Yes, it would be somewhat easier if we had a list of legacy moves. But (to repeat myself) that's not necessarily our focus and you ''can'' figure the information out if you really need to.<br />
:::(And to repeat myself once more, we're not hostile to a legacy move list. I just can't tell you if/when it might happen at the moment.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 15:39, 13 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::Thanks, Tiddlywinks.<br />
::::I may be highlighting comp as the use case, and/but I know it's not our focus, I don't do so because I want to promote comp or anything. What I'm basically trying to do is rephrase Sumwun's question of what use case species (or learnset) pages currently try to serve; basically, why are they there, what are they supposed to easily provide an answer to:<br />
::::"What move can <species> ''learn'' in <game/generation>?" may be equally sensible/important, but if the pages were focused (solely/primarily) on that, there would be no need to have an "By events" subsection (to a lesser extent, probably not even "By breeding"), and I think we can all agree that this information is valuable/sensible. What I'm thinking, and what I believe Sumwun thinks, is that a "By transfer from a prior generation" subsection is equally valuable/sensible.<br />
::::Anyway, I know how that's a hassle to create or even design, and I'm not forcing it. But I'd like to stress that Sumwun's suggestion, in my opinion, is far from focusing on some weird, minor edge case, and is providing benefit. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 16:17, 13 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::"Please list Pikachu's moves in USUM". Just go to its page. It's right ''there''. Want to know it's previous moves, go click on ''one'' link. Easy. And I'm answering sumwun's reasoning of "cross checking multiple pages is annoying", since he's the one that stated this conversation. All you're trying to do is justify sumwun's laziness.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 16:49, 13 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::Right now, I can't just click one link. Depending on how old a Pokemon is, I may need to click 1-6 links, load 1-6 learnset pages, and scan 2-25 sections. I would consider reducing this to 0 clicks and 1 section a big and worthwhile improvement. If this kind of laziness is unjustified, why do we have any learnset pages at all? We might as well be saying, "Want to know whether <Pokemon> can learn <move>? Load ''one'' move article and do ''one'' ctrl f. Easy." <br />
::::::By the way, I would also like to know the answers to Nescientist's 2 questions. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 22:05, 13 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::That's an exaggeration. If you know what you're looking for, it'll only taking you one-two clicks. You can't be searching for what move a Pokemon can learn previously without a set goal. You're playing Ultra Sun, but you want to know what it can learn in '''Diamond''' version. Diamond is the key word which equates to '''Gen IV'''. So you're already looking for its Gen IV learnset. Go to its page and click on Gen IV. Done.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 11:54, 14 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::I have moved this discussion to [[Bulbapedia talk:Project Pokédex/Structure#Adding moves available only by transfer from an earlier generation|a more public place]], so others have an easier opportunity to chime in (and so that possibly, ForceFire doesn't receive as much email notifications about messages not directed to them directly).<br />
::::::::ForceFire, the question "What moves can Pikachu know in USUM?" does not include "Diamond", and [[Pikachu (Pokémon)]] does not mention Mega Kick. I have detailed some more about what pages you'd need to traverse where I have continued the discussion I'm interested in.<br />
::::::::Tiddlywinks, I have addressed some of your comments there, and would appreciate to get to know your opinions. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 12:18, 14 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::Pikachu cannot '''learn''' Mega Kick in USUM (hence why it's not there at first glance), but it can know it if you transfer it from another game (which is common sense, of course it's going to know Mega Kick if you transfer it, the game isn't going to force it to forget the move).<br />
:::::::::I just gave an example of how it only take one-two clicks to find what you're looking for. And you misinterpreted my example. If you're thinking of a certain game, you're automatically thinking of a certain generation. Go to the page and click on that specific generation.<br />
:::::::::You can convince me to change my mind, but so far, "it's too hard, annoying, and boring to sift through a few pages" is not convincing enough to change my mind.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 12:28, 14 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::I don't understand. Please name the page(s) I need to answer "What moves can Pikachu '''''KNOW''''' in USUM?". [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 12:31, 14 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
{{indent}}When you say "know" you're saying what it can learn via other means, and that includes transfer. The pages are the previous gen learnset pages, those are the moves Pikachu can know in USUM if you were to transfer it to USUM. Honestly...--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 12:35, 14 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:And those are six, plus Pikachus page, that's seven. (I even mentioned other difficulties at the other page.) It's not easy, it's hard. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 12:37, 14 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::If you have a game in mind, you have a generation in mind. You mentioned Mega Kick, Pikachu can only learn it in Gen I, III, and VI. So you're '''ONLY''' going to click '''one''' of those link, not the other links. Why would you. You already have the generation you need, you don't need to click on the others. If someone is unsure of the generation, they would look through the move article and ctrl+f "Pikachu".<br />
::It's like if I wanted to watch a certain Johto league episode, but I don't know which number it is. I'm not going to watch the entirety of the XY series, I'm going to look through the Johto arc.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 12:44, 14 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::You're exactly right there, but you're answering "Can Pikachu know Mega Kick in USUM?", not "What moves can Pikachu know in USUM?". I have no prior knowledge that Mega Kick is a possible solution. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 12:47, 14 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::If you don't have a move in mind, then you have a previous generation in mind (to transfer from). If you have neither in mind, then you're not really looking for "what move can Pikachu know in USUM".--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 12:51, 14 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::I'm positive that I have neither in mind, and that I am looking for "what moves can Pikachu know in USUM". [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 13:22, 14 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::Then you're not transferring then. The only other viable option of wanting to know what moves Pikachu can ''know'' is events, since everything else it learns, and events are already listed. <br />
::::::If you're transferring Pokémon, you already have either a generation or move in mind. You're either thinking "I want to transfer Pikachu from <game>, but am not sure what it can learn in that game", which you then click on the '''appropriate''' generation moveset. Or you're thinking "I know Pikachu can learn <move> in a previous generation, but I don't know what game", which you then go to the move page and ctrl+f PIkachu.<br />
::::::If you're not thinking of neither of those, then you aren't looking to transfer Pokémon.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 13:46, 14 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::I'm not thinking of a specific generation. I want to know the answer to "What moves can Pikachu know in USUM".<br />
:::::::I can post some ''more special'' questions that require the same page traversion, such as "Can Pikachu know a sleep-inducing move?" (i.e., can I get a Pikachu on my copy of USUM with a sleep-inducing move, by whatever means?"), or "What is the most powerful move Magikarp may know in USUM?" (i.e., what's the maximum base power for any move a Magikarp may know in USUM, by whatever means).<br />
:::::::These should be questions you may understand better. Please try to answer them. (If you do, you will find out that you won't find the answers at the species pages alone.) [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 15:50, 14 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::If we are expected to be able to go to the move page and ctrl f the Pokemon's name for transfer-only moves, why are we not expected to do that for all moves? Why do we have full lists of level up moves and TM moves for each Pokemon? <br />
::::::::By the way, another example of a question that would become a lot easier is, "What are all the ways I can get a Golem that knows a physical attack that is strong against psychic?" [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 22:20, 14 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
{{indent}}Nescientist... what do you mean by "know"? Because a Pokémon can "know" a move via transfer or events. If you have neither a generation or move in mind, then you are '''''not''''' transferring. You are just blindly going through pages for no reason. If you're question ends so vaguely at "What moves can Pikachu know in USUM", then I don't know what you're looking for because you're not explaining the method. It's either "What can Pikachu know in USUM '''via transfer'''" or "What can Pikachu know in USUM '''via events'''". If you're talking about transfers, then I've already answered that many times.<br />
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Wanting to know what "sleep inducing moves" or "highest possible power" is competitive fluff. We are not a strategy guide. Casual gamers aren't going to care about that stuff. A casual gamer is going to want to know what moves their Pokemon can know in the game they have in their hands without outside influence (i.e. transfer or events). They're not going to care about sleep inducing move or highest based power. Not everyone is a competitive player.<br />
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Sumwun, don't be difficult. I don't even know what you're talking about. If you have a '''''move''''' in mind, go to the move page and ctrl+f. If you have a '''''game''''' in mind, go to the appropriate learnset page. You are '''''not''''' going to be looking through the learnsets to look for a single move. No one is going to do that. '''''No one''''' is going to blindly look through six learnsets looking for just one move, when they can just go to the move article itself. It's not that hard. I don't think you understand what the different kinds templates are for, and assuming they're all do the same thing.<br />
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You're Golem question, like Nescientist's "sleep inducing" question is competitive fluff. Again, we are not a strategy guide. And your question was '''even more vague'''. What is the method you seek? level up? breeding? TM? what? Be more specific in your searches. I like to think users are browsing the site fully aware of what they are looking for, not exact but an idea of what they are looking for. By the sounds of it, you're browsing the site without a single thing in mind. It stops at "What can Golem learn/know" rather than specifying "What can Golem learn/know via this specific method".--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 04:31, 15 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I already rephrased what it means when I do not specify: it means "by whatever means", which means at all, by level-up or events or transfer or ''anything'' else. Moves a Pokémon may know in USUM. I'm explicitly ''not'' saying "by transfer only" (or anything else), I don't know why you insist I need to say that; because that is not what I'm asking.<br />
:Anyway, you seem to have understood that my specific questions (and Sumwun's) are hard to answer, not easy. (Which is good, because that's why I mentioned them; my original question is ''more general''.)<br />
:I would object to your take that it's only competitive fluff (and I did so [[Bulbapedia talk:Project Pokédex/Structure#Adding moves available only by transfer from an earlier generation|here]]). What do you think casual gamers would be looking for? If you're excluding what you call "competitive fluff", do you think they would need "By breeding"? (If so, why?) [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 16:33, 15 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::If nobody goes through learnset pages for moves, what do people use them for? <br />
::Transfer-only moves are not competitive fluff or strategy guides. They are real Pokemon information that is true even when nobody is competitive battling and is not at all fan-made, but they simply happen to be more useful to competitive battlers. If this kind of information isn't allowed on Bulbapedia, why do we have a page called "World Championships", which is pretty much the definition of competitive battling? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 03:10, 16 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Nescientist: This discussion is about transfer moves, so I assume you're talking about and looking for transfer moves. If you're looking for "anything at all", then you're not looking for anything specific so the '''bare minimum''' is already on the species article, you do not need to click on anything else. Everything it can know at '''bare minimum''' is ''right there''.<br />
:::I didn't even answer both of your questions. I basically said that they are irrelevant because we are not a strategy guide. We're not going to say "This Pokemon can know this move which is X power" because that is competitive fluff and strategy guide-ish. No casual gamer is going to think that specifically.<br />
:::I just said what casual gamers are looking for "'''things their Pokemon can learn normally within the game they have in their hands, without outside influence like transfers and events'''". This includes, level up moves, TMs, and such. Breeding is game mechanic and should be listed, I don't regard it as competitive fluff.<br />
:::Sumwun: I don't think you understand how these things work. People look through the learnsets to look for moves '''''from a specific game or generation'''''. They are looking for the '''entire moveset''', not just one move. '''The entire moveset'''. If you're looking for one move, go to the move article. Looking for a moveset for a specific game, look through the learnset. It's not that hard to understand.<br />
:::"World Championships" is an article detailing an event. It's not detailing strategies. It's not detailing what moves would be better. It's not detailing which Pokemon would be better. It's just detailing the event. Again, it's like you have no idea what that article is about.<br />
:::It's real information, yes. But it can be seen by going through the moveset pages, because like I said, someone looking to transfer their Pokemon over so they can have a Pokemon with a move they can no longer learn, already have a game or move in mind. They are not blindly looking through pages.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 06:23, 16 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::Just going to put my 2 cents in here (I'm not strongly for nor against):<br />
::::1) Firstly, I think an important question that needs to be answered first is: Does a section on transfer-only moves have any role outside of the competitive field? All the examples raised at the moment have all been competitive play-oriented which I agree shouldn't be Bulbapedia's focus. I can think of one question where a transfer-only moves section ''could'' help with (e.g. "A Corsola I received from a trade has Whirlpool, Sucker Punch, and Secret Power. Is it hacked?" - although it wouldn't be too hard to find this information elsewhere + it is quite a specific question). <br />
::::2) Another point that should be discussed is that some (albeit a small number of) moves may not be obvious to some users whether they can be transferred or not - e.g. inability to transfer most HMs, ability to transfer from VC, ability to transfer certain HMs (e.g. Defog, Whirlpool)<br />
::::3) Lastly, I should note that a transfer-only moves section is likely to be longer than most will think (esp. as most of it is made up of moves which lost their TM status in a new gen) - though the length isn't as important --[[User:Wowy|<span style="color:#AAAAFF">'''Wowy'''</span>]][[User talk:Wowy|<sub style="color:#B69E00;">'''(토크)'''</sub>]] 07:01, 16 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::i don't think your example is all that great, because force fire is going to say you would just look up the move pages of each of those individual moves and ctrl f for corsola. an example i could think of which is pretty niche, but possible i think, is "im dead set on having a corsola for my playthrough of ultra sun. i want it to have the best movelist possible; im willing to transfer from prev gens to do so. is there a quick way i can get a list of all those moves without having to go through all the pages?" so imo this new section for moves learned from prev gens isnt useless; theres definitely a benefit. i think the question is, is it worth it.<br />
:::::if you ARE going through the lists of previous gens, you already know what you ARENT looking for: every move learnable from the current gen. although i dont think going through lists for new moves requires THAT much work, i dont think the work is negligible either. --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 07:47, 16 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::Yes, I completely agree with you (maybe I should have made that more clear). I was just trying to give an example of a question which would be less competitive play-oriented (because the examples already given are not), and I as I said, the information could easily be found elsewhere --[[User:Wowy|<span style="color:#AAAAFF">'''Wowy'''</span>]][[User talk:Wowy|<sub style="color:#B69E00;">'''(토크)'''</sub>]] 08:48, 16 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::I don't know how I can be any clearer, but the question is "What are moves Pikachu can know in USUM", i.e. by whatever means; it is not, I repeat, NOT something else. The species page alone does not answer it: you need that and ''all'' previous generation learnsets, at minimum. (And that's all I'm saying, basically. I believe you, ForceFire, finally understood that.)<br />
:::::::Wowy, I believe it would only be beneficial if you presented your opinion at [[Bulbapedia talk:Project Pokédex/Structure#Adding moves available only by transfer from an earlier generation|that other talk page]] (maybe even answered my question there). Anyway, I'm just gonna address your points here:<br />
:::::::1. I wouldn't know how any question about moves would not have at least some relevance to competitive play; battles and moves are a central concept of the Pokémon franchise, and anyone who plays Pokémon should have some interest in competitive play. It's a different thing to talk about serious competitive battlers (like, those who maintain tier lists and whatnot), though; and I think they wouldn't really care what the answer to my two questions are (but I could be mistaken, because again, I'm not a competitive player myself). The Swinub I mentioned at that other page was purely non-competitive in that sense, too; I used it for a playthrough. As an aside, I guess the section I propose wouldn't necessarily answer your type of "legal" question; for example, a section would include both {{m|Pay Day}} and {{m|Mimic}} for Pikachu, but a Pikachu that knows both moves simultaneously would still be illegal (I think that's similar to how the current "By breeding" section cannot answer whether two Egg Moves at the same time are legal.)<br />
:::::::2. I already said that at that other page when I explained that it is even harder to find out than I initially thought. (A "By transfer" section will ''not'' necessarily include all moves a Pokémon may have known at some earlier game (Pikachu ''can'' know {{m|Petal Dance}}, for example, but ''not'' in USUM by any means such as transfer); therefore, I also don't think Tiddlywinks' choice of the word "legacy moves" was exact for my proposal.)<br />
:::::::3. I'm not sure it will be that long, but as you said, it shouldn't really matter.<br />
:::::::Sumwun: I ''do'' understand what you're saying (and I agree), but you seem to derail the discussion with some of your more provocative questions (ForceFire never said Bulbapedia shouldn't cover anything that has anything to do with competitive play, for example). I hope that's not your intention, let's try to keep it simple. :)<br />
:::::::ForceFire, moves listed under "By breeding" are not covered by the text you bolded (and by the way, in my opinion, those are about as much "competitive fluff" as "By transfer" is), "By events" even less. I think you didn't answer whether you think casual gamers would need "By breeding"!? (Or did you? I'm still - seriously - trying to get to the bottom of what you think move sections should cover and why.) [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 16:57, 16 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::You didn't even read what I wrote, because I already answered that in my previous response. And I know it's an outright lie when you say you don't have a game or generation in mind, because the question is "What can Pikachu know in '''USUM'''". You've singled out '''USUM'''. That is that game you have in mind. And since you're not looking for anything specific, just the bare minimum (level up, TMS) and that's already on the article. All moves that Pikachu can know through '''normal gameplay (i.e. not anything specific, by any means)''' in '''USUM''' are already on the Pikachu page. The species page already has the most current (i.e. '''USUM''' or '''Gen VII''') moveset. Why are you even looking through the previous generation movesets if you're only looking for moves it can know in'''USUM'''? It's already on the species page, you don't need to click on anything else. <br />
::::::::Breeding is a game mechanic. It's as important as TMs and level up moves. The move sections should cover all moves a Pokémon can learn '''through normal gameplay''' in the most '''recent game or generation'''. Transferring isn't '''learning through normal gameplay". Sure, neither are events, but I can look past that because those are generally one time things and should be noted.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 17:39, 16 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::Nescientist didn't ask for moves that could be known "through normal gameplay". He/she/it asked for moves that could be known "by whatever means", which includes transfer as well as normal gameplay. Is this not a valid question to ask? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 18:14, 16 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::Sigh.. Going through it step by step:<br />
::::::::::# I did read your (whole) message.<br />
::::::::::# I did not lie.<br />
::::::::::# I am not looking for a bare minimum. (My question was on "moves Pikachu can know in USUM [by whatever means]".)<br />
::::::::::# What Sumwun said (and everyone, including Sumwun, should be able to see how it is a ''valid'' question to ask).<br />
::::::::::# I am looking through previous movesets because not all moves Pikachu can know in USUM are at [[Pikachu (Pokémon)]]; Mega Kick, for example, isn't. (We've been there before, I mentioned that way up above, even rephrased it repeatedly.)<br />
::::::::::# Yes, I do need to click on something else to check, i.e. all previous movesets (at minimum).<br />
::::::::::# Transfer is a game mechanic.<br />
::::::::::# In my opinion, breeding is not quite as important as TMs and level-up moves, if only because I cannot&mdash;by no means&mdash;teach (an individual) Pokémon I already own its species' Egg Moves. (It's still important, though.)<br />
::::::::::# Finally, a "definition" of what you think move sections should cover: moves Pokémon may ''learn'' through normal gameplay within the generation, plus event moves. I'll just mention that they do already cover more than that, for example how {{p|Cubchoo}} may learn Avalanche in USUM.<br />
::::::::::Beyond that, of course, I can't be of any help to you when you claim that I didn't read your message and outright lied. And, up to this point, I was trying hard. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 20:02, 17 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::::I think the problem with the "outright lie" is that transferring a Pokemon requires 2 games. Nescientist knew that the END game would be US or UM. When Nescientist said he didn't have a game "in mind", he/she/it was referring to the START game, and his/her/its willingness to transfer a Pokemon FROM any game TO US or UM. Nescientist, is this right? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 20:52, 17 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::::Yes, in your words/example, the end game would be USUM, but the start game could be anything (including USUM itself, i.e. no transfer at all). [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 16:42, 18 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::::::Should we bring this discussion to another administrator's talk page? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 17:22, 25 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Need your help ==<br />
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Hi there! Can you please help me with [[User talk:Mikuri#Who's stalking whose edits?|this discussion]]? I am tired of explaining to them that their obsession with having the current revision of a page is more of a hindrance than a help. Aside from the examples I offered in my talk page, you can check GrammarFreak01's latest edits to [[Marian]]'s page. That sentence they edited was perfectly fine as it was, but they changed it for no reason other than being the last person to have edited the page.<br />
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In doing so, they added misleading information because they clearly have no knowledge on the matter, first by saying that Jessie was disguised as Jessedia "at the time", creating a false impression that she disguised as Jessedia on one occasion when in fact this is a recurring disguise Jessie has changed into at least three times, and then by saying she was "briefly disguised". Assuming you don't know, Jessie has appeared as Jessedia for the duration of the entire Kanto Grand Festival and the Wallace Cup's Battle Stage, as well as in DP093 when she was interviewing Fantina.<br />
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This is not what one would call "briefly". This is not a one-time disguise that is blown off by Ash and his friends at the end of the episode. It's a recurring thing, and GrammarFreak01 is apparently unaware of that and changing a sentence that was completely okay with their nonsense just to accomplish their "goal". It's getting tired and I'm asking for help because these are instances in which I got involved, but who knows the amount of wrong information they have added to the tons of pages they edit daily.<br />
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It's frankly discouraging to edit a page only to have its content vandalized (inserting gibberish into pages counts as vandalism, right?) by someone who has no idea what they're doing and are just trying to get the most recent revision of a page. Also, judging by their latest edit to my talk page, they expect me to be some sort of wizard who can see into the future and tell them that their edit is wrong ''before'' they even make it. I don't know how to respond to that and I'm not the only user who has complained about GrammarFreak01's bad editing habits. Something needs to be done about this situation and that's why I'm asking you to intervene. Please help. --[[User:Mikuri|<span style="color:#2b915e;">'''Mi'''</span>]][[User talk: Mikuri|<span style="color:#52cc91;">'''ku'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Mikuri|<span style="color:#8debbc;">'''ri'''</span>]] 15:12, 14 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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:I am well aware of how long Jessie has been disguised as Jessedia and what she used that disguise for. [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Marian&type=revision&diff=2860143&oldid=2860142 The original sentence] in question just did not make sense to me from a grammatical standpoint. Also, for someone who constantly complains about me having a need to "have the current revision of a page", Mikuri has a nasty habit of editing articles hours and even minutes right after me, leading me to assume she is maliciously following me using my edit history. Examples of this are:<br />
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:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Melody_(M02)&action=history Melody (M02)]<br />
:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Maren&action=history Maren]<br />
:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Carol&action=history Carol]<br />
:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Tobias_(M02)&action=history Tobias (M02)]<br />
:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Molly_Hale&action=history Molly Hale]<br />
:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Liza_(Johto)&action=history Liza (Johto)]<br />
:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Oakley&action=history Oakley]<br />
:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Annie_(M05)&action=history Annie (M05)]<br />
:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Ross&action=history Ross]<br />
:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Butler&action=history Butler]<br />
:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Rafe&action=history Rafe]<br />
:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Jack_Walker&action=history Jack Walker]<br />
:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Lugia_(M02)&action=history Lugia (M02)]<br />
:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Entei_(M03)&action=history Entei (M03)]<br />
:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Celebi_(M04)&action=history Celebi (M04)]<br />
:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Suicune_(M04)&action=history Suicune (M04)]<br />
:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Lucario_(M08)&action=history Lucario (M08)]<br />
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:If you've noticed in the edit histories I provided, much of the articles hadn't been edited in months prior to my original edits. Then, when I make an edit, Mikuri follows after, which I find to be a complete contradiction to their complaints about my editing practices. This was also a problem back in June, when I first [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AMikuri&type=revision&diff=2809252&oldid=2808516 confronted Mikuri about it]. The articles in question were:<br />
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:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Lillie_(anime)&offset=20180628163311&action=history Lillie (anime)]<br />
:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Brock%27s_Vulpix&action=history Brock's Vulpix]<br />
:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Matori&offset=20180818063550&action=history Matori]<br />
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:At one point in our argument, I said [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AMikuri&type=revision&diff=2859786&oldid=2859767 this]. I admit that it was poorly worded due to my blinding irritation of the situation (and that I probably should've changed it once I calmed down). But what I was hoping to convey was that if Mikuri had a problem with me trying to hog the latest revision of a page, they should've tried to take it to the talk page sooner, just like what was usually done with me whenever there was a problem.<br />
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:Clearly, this is a problem that has been going on for months now and I would appreciate your mediation. I don't particularly care about any outcome anymore, so fire away. I only ask that this contradiction on Mikuri's part be addressed in some way. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 22:34, 14 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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::I started "maliciously following" GrammarFreak01's edit history '''after''' I noticed they were stalking my edits. Usually after I finished doing a major edit to a page, they would appear to unnecessarily tweak image sizes (something Tiddlywinks has warned them about) or make another one of their pointless edits. I accused them of doing that in some of my edit summaries and they decided to [[User talk:Mikuri#You're being paranoid|come to my talk page]] and call me paranoid. I could provide a laundry list of that, but I don't feel like it's needed. For one, GrammarFreak01's talk page is chock-full of messages telling them to stop with the pointless edits (and some of them were left there by you, Force Fire). In addition, I am not the only user who has complained about their edit stalking habits, as there is a [[User talk:GrammarFreak01#Edit Stalking|message left by PardescanSlowbro]] detailing the exact same behavior.<br />
::In their defense, all GrammarFreak01 had to say is that they receive email notifications after someone edits a page they have edited in the past. So what? This is no excuse to go around and make needless edits only to have the current revision of a page. And that is the main point of this discussion: GrammarFreak01's history of wholly unnecessary edits that add nothing to our pages. Correction: sometimes their edits make the page worse, as they add wrong information about a subject they know nothing about only to have the most recent revision, as was the case with [[Yuzo]]'s page. Their concern isn't quality content and accurate information, but rather an enormous amount of unverified nonsense. I honestly don't care if my revision isn't the current one and I don't have this kind of problem with any other user in this entire wiki, '''unlike GrammarFreak01'''. Several users have contributed to pages I had worked on, and you don't see me complaining about them. But GrammarFreak01 is not here to contribute, they're here to make unnecessary edits.<br />
::So yes, I can admit that I have edited several pages upon seeing one of GrammarFreak01's edits, but I guess this comes as no surprise considering the recent changes are there for everyone to see, and again, this was '''after''' I noticed they were stalking my edits and making unnecessary changes to them. And there's one notable difference: it was never to add information that was untrue about a subject I know nothing about. My point isn't that they are editing after me, but that those edits are needless. Editing a page after another user isn't a blockable offense, but inserting gibberish into pages is, as is edit flood and edit wars, behaviors also exhibited by GrammarFreak01. And I think it is worth comparing our contributions: I usually do a complete overhaul by adding verified information I gathered and uploading high quality images to the Archives, while GrammarFreak01 has a long and documented history of making pointless edits that add no real content to Bulbapedia and edit warring. --[[User:Mikuri|<span style="color:#2b915e;">'''Mi'''</span>]][[User talk: Mikuri|<span style="color:#52cc91;">'''ku'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Mikuri|<span style="color:#8debbc;">'''ri'''</span>]] 00:34, 15 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::If you read the entire discussion, you will see that [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AGrammarFreak01&type=revision&diff=2825193&oldid=2825153 I explained myself and asked PardescanSlowbro for examples] where my edits were unnecessary and clearly malicious. I was happy to address those concerns. But they did not get back to me on that. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 01:25, 15 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== False positive abuse filter triggers ==<br />
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Hello, recently I tried to move a message I misplaced on a user's talk page (see log [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Special:AbuseLog?wpSearchUser=Ozank&wpSearchTitle=&wpSearchWiki= here]) to the bottom where it should have been, but the abuse filter didn't let me. If you want to look into this, feel free. [[User:Ozank|Ozank]] ([[User talk:Ozank|talk]]) 16:43, 17 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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:He already [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:GrammarFreak01#Re:_Heads_up responded to that]. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 17:39, 17 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Yeah, I've already answered this on GrammarFreak's talk page. I think the system may have deemed moving sections (to the proper place) a drastic edit for a new user. Other than that, you should be fine once you've become a member for a period of time.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 06:20, 18 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Mimikyu's name ==<br />
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Hi there, <br />
Since you're the one who placed the warning in Mimikyu's "Name Origin", would you mind giving it a look [[Talk:Mimikyu (Pokémon)#Mimic_.2B_Q_2|here]]? Seeing that talking about it in the talk page was the recommendation, I'd like to discuss about it a little. Thanks. [[User:ExLight|ExLight]] ([[User talk:ExLight|talk]]) 01:46, 20 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Mewtwo's voice actor ==<br />
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I just watched [https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lrTmDZavVVc a video] where it was revealed that the English voice actor of the {{OBP|Mewtwo|original series|original series Mewtwo}} was actually ''not'' Philip Bartlett. That was a stage name, and the Philip Bartlett who died years ago was a completely different person, with the ''real'' English voice actor behind Mewtwo ''and'' the Philip Bartlett stage name being a man named Jay Goede. I feel like this is worth checking into. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 17:22, 20 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Dr._Fuji_(anime)&diff=2200677&oldid=2192996 Judging by this] and [[Talk:M01#Dr. Fuji's voice|this]], it's been acknowledged back in 2014.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 09:38, 22 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Ah. Okay. Sorry. Shouldn't there then be something like a tooltip on Mewtwo's page to indicate that "Philip Bartlett" is just a stage name? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 09:58, 22 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Don't think it's too much of an issue to do so.<br />
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== Troublesome user ==<br />
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Heads up. Clearly [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Special:Contributions/Cheekybutthole this user] is [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Probopass_(Pok%C3%A9mon)&diff=prev&oldid=2868297 not here to contribute]. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 03:26, 24 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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:Never mind, {{U|Abcboy}} took care of it. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 03:41, 24 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== links ==<br />
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is it all right to repeat links from an above section in a lower one. and u know that internal error that was mentioned above? im still getting it. also i couldnt help noticing ur ignoring a poor man's cry for help up above. not a very nice thing to do, wouldnt u say? :) --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 14:16, 31 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:If something has already been linked in a section, it does not need to be linked again. It's fine to have one link per section, '''only if said link isn't directly below the previous section'''. Once every few sections is fine, but not literally the next section below it.<br />
:The internal error issue is being looked into. There has been no updates yet on its progress.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 05:41, 1 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
::so lets say a link keyword is in every section. you'd want it to be linked in every other section? 1st, 3rd, 5th, etc. --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 06:10, 1 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Use common sense. Also, you don't have to link every time the word "Pokémon species", "Pokémon trainer", or whatever appears.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 06:21, 1 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
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==Voice Actors==<br />
Sent you an email with a list of voice actors from Lisa Ortiz, do I have your approval?--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 16:12, 6 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Those are fine to be added.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 05:45, 7 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Statistic ==<br />
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Why did you undo my edit to statistic? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 17:56, 9 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:You're change wasn't necessary. It was basically saying the same thing.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 03:44, 10 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
::I changed "take effect" to "start affecting turn order", which does not mean the same thing. Speed has other effects, such as determining the base power of gyro ball and electro ball, and those other effects immediately respond to changes to speed. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 04:52, 10 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::The full sentence is " will not take effect until the following turn". What you changed it to is still saying that it wont take effect until the next turn.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 05:00, 10 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::What it currently says is false because it implies that changes to speed do not start affecting the power of gyro ball and electro ball until the next turn. What I changed it to is true because it does not imply that. How can they say the same thing if one is false and the other is true? Would it be better if it said, "An in-battle change to a Pokémon's Speed stat will not start affecting turn order until the following turn, but otherwise takes effect immediately"? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 18:49, 10 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::If I might butt in here, if what Sumwun is saying is true (I've not seen any information whether it is or not), then there 'is' a difference between the two, and I think Sumwun's edit should be reinstated. Speed has effect on more things than just turn order, and some might react to changes sooner than others. --[[User:Felthry|Felthry]] ([[User talk:Felthry|talk]]) 18:00, 11 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::Why would you assume the sentence is talking about Gyro Ball or Electro Ball? It clearly isn't. It's talking about when a Pokémon's speed gets changed due to a stat change, it won't take affect until the following turn. Gyro Ball and Electro Ball are not moves that affect the user's speed, but rely on it, it's not going to get affected by a stat changing move.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 05:48, 13 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::Before commenting on the first 2 sentences of that comment, I just wanted to tell you that the last 2 sentences [https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7anythinggoes-834770797 are false]. I will admit that Showdown! is the most reliable battle simulator available to me, and I'm sorry if that's not reliable enough. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 06:51, 13 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::"Simulator", hence why it isn't reliable. You can change things with a simulator.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 07:17, 13 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::The replay was done in "Anything Goes", a standard format that does not change any battle mechanics. Do you still not trust it? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 16:38, 13 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::No.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 16:40, 13 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::::If not a Showdown! replay, what can convince you that changes in speed can take effect immediately? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 18:03, 13 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::Gyro Ball and Electro Ball both depend on the user's speed, right? So why would you expect that changes to the user's speed wouldn't affect those moves? Regardless of whether it "clearly isn't" talking about them as you personally see it, it's better to be precise than to rely on implicit statements. --[[User:Felthry|Felthry]] ([[User talk:Felthry|talk]]) 23:38, 15 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== New Devolution ==<br />
Hello Force Fire, I am a foreigner and reader on the Bulbapedia site. I only created an account in order to discuss a possible Pokémon capable of performing a Devolution, I mean Silvally (Type: Full).<br />
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Since originally this was his original form, however, he involuted to Type: Null after Faba added a helmet to his face, slowing him down. He will only be Silvally again when he destroys the helmet, that is, if it is valid I would like some moderator on the site to add this Pokémon to the article [[Devolution]]. [[User:NanayaShiki07|NanayaShiki07]] ([[User talk:NanayaShiki07|talk]]) 20:07, 10 November 2018 (~)<br />
:Games=/=anime. I personally don't think it counts as anything. I also don't really care, mainly because the whole story behind Silvally and Type: Null, and how the latter is just the former with a helmet. It just unnecessarily makes things confusing and messes the whole concept of evolution in the franchise. So I don't have any strong opinions about this.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 05:48, 13 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== N as a rival ==<br />
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Don't put a message that says "Please do not add N, as he is not a rival" on the page, If you have an argument against it then put it in the talk page! [[User:Nightfall217|Nightfall217]] ([[User talk:Nightfall217|talk]]) 23:48, 12 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:As an administrator I ''can'' place a hidden message telling users what not to do until a consensus has been made.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 05:48, 13 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Leaf Discussion Page == <br />
I noticed you left a note on my userpage telling me not to delete other people's comments. I want to assure you that I have not done so, and in fact had my comments removed twice by other people when they re-formatted the page. --[[User:LavaringX|LavaringX]] ([[User talk:LavaringX|talk]]) 07:16, 18 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Spaceworld Mainspace ==<br />
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Hello, I was wondering if we could start slowly mainspacing some Pokémon Gold and Silver beta information, as the leaked Spaceworld ROM has been around for nearly a half a year now. A lot of the interest for adding this information onto the site has slowed down, and I thought that perhaps if only a little bit of information was added, like, for example, [[User:Celadonkey/Spaceworld/Dex|a list of Pokémon]], [[User:Celadonkey/Spaceworld#Chikorita_.28Pok.C3.A9mon.29.2FBeta|one or two Pokémon articles]], or [[User:Frozen Fennec/Pokémon Gold and Silver Spaceworld Demo|some information on the gameplay]], then maybe it would spur interest and additions to the wiki. --[[User:Celadonkey|Celadonkey]] 16:39, 18 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Spaceworld stuff shouldn't be the priority right now, clearly. The staff still hasn't decided on how to handle this. Please don't think you can just move them without permission.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 16:57, 18 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
::I wasn't going to move it without permission, that's why I asked you. And alright. Please let me know when staff has reached a decision because this is something I am very interested in helping out with --[[User:Celadonkey|Celadonkey]] 17:02, 18 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== I want to turn a redirect into an article for something else, but I don't have the writing skills. ==<br />
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I asked Chosen 5 days ago, but he never responded. I asked Glik earlier today, but unfortunately he doesn't play the game and couldn't help.<br />
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Anyway, there's a substance called R in the game Detective Pikachu, and it's a big part of the game's story. When I went to search its article, it redirects me to the Trainer Tower instead. I am definitely not able to write the article myself (I sucked at Language Arts), but I also don't want to leave the page as this redirect. What can I do? [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 01:24, 20 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Write a stub or incomplete article? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 02:33, 20 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
::You already created a userpage it seems. You can invite others to help flesh out the article. Sadly, I've never played Detective Pikachu, so I wouldn't know much.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 05:58, 20 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== [[Sea Cottage]] and [[Trophy Garden]] ==<br />
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Hi there. You recently removed information relating to the Bill's Secret Garden rumour without engaging in discussion first, as I had explicitly requested on the talk pages for those articles. I have provided four different articles regarding Bill's Secret Garden and it's mentioned on numerous fansites, so I'm not sure what further evidence you require. It's an extremely notorious rumour. --[[User:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] [[User talk:Poppy Appletree|:3]] 13:43, 20 November 2018 (UTC)</div>
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<div>'''Archieved talks:''' [[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92/Archive 1]] (archieved on November 5, 2015)<br />
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== XY093 errors ==<br />
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Why did you erase the error section of ''[[XY093|All Eyes on the Future!]]''? You said you disagree with them, but that doesn't make them any less of mistakes. {{m|Light Screen}} was shown protecting the male {{p|Meowstic}} from {{AP|Talonflame}}'s {{m|Flame Charge}} despite Light Screen only reducing damage from Special Attacks, like {{AP|Frogadier}}'s {{m|Water Pulse}}, not from Physical Attacks like Talonflame's Flame Charge. Later on in that episode, when Talonflame used {{m|Steel Wing}} on the male Meowstic, [[Professor Sycamore]] said that Light Screen doesn't work on Physical Attacks like Steel Wing. Later, {{an|Clemont}} claimed that {{a|Prankster}} was making {{m|Helping Hand}} a priority move when Helping Hand is already one to begin with, for Helping Hand always goes first even if the Pokémon using it didn't have Prankster as their ability. {{a|Keen Eye}} only prevents your Pokémon's accuracy from lowering and ignores an opponent's evasive stats. Professor Sycamore claimed that Psyshock was chasing Frogadier and Talonflame because the female Meostic had Keen Eye, but moments ago, you clearly see the Meowstic using Psychic to make the Psyshock go after Ash's Pokémon. That's why these are mistakes. --[[User:PKMNAdventurer|PKMNAdventurer]] ([[User talk:PKMNAdventurer|talk]]) 17:11, 8 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Finally some Colo data ==<br />
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I finally got my rear in gear with some of that [[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92/Archive 1#Colo/XD data|Colo/XD team data]]. I've got Colosseum teams now. [http://www.mediafire.com/download/t6gaudyp6atho2b/ Here's] the file.<br />
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There are some comments in the file. The file is huge... I imagine the easiest thing will be to poke around BP's pages and just search for the right Trainers in the file. If you have any questions about anything, feel free to ask. =) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 05:32, 14 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
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:Thanks a ton! I'll hopefully get on with it later today. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:56, 14 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
::I figured out a couple things I did wrong for that Colosseum data with the gender. Half is BP's Shadow and non-Shadow templates acting a bit differently when the "gender=" parameter is missing, and half is a separate mistake on my part. I'll fix that up later on and update the link above.<br />
::FYI, right now for XD, I've mostly got the story data converted (just testing a few Trainers, and finding things like that gender issue), but XD also has a good amount of data for other modes, which (with the lazy-ish way I'm doing it) will also be a bit of an annoyance to make work (mostly tedious). [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 21:43, 15 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
:::[http://www.mediafire.com/download/ra320pu97afz07x/ XD data]. I've also fixed up the Colosseum data (replaced above; if you wanna check some of the differences, try searching for Entei.)<br />
:::Colosseum's gender data is pretty straightforward, so I think it's OK now, but XD's is less so... For now for XD, I've assumed all Shadow Pokemon have a random gender (so far as they can), and everything else's gender works like I *think* it does. If you're ever in doubt, you can always try to check playthrough videos. I've done that a bit already while testing my output, and where I have, my data was right (and not just for gender; though Abilities can be hard to be sure about). [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 22:09, 17 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
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==Hyperspace Hole==<br />
Did Hoopa literally used Hyperspace Hole in the movie when it was summoning Pokémon? Because someone told me it did. [[User:Seabiscuit2020|Seabiscuit2020]] ([[User talk:Seabiscuit2020|talk]]) 20:21, 17 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
:I doubt it was Hyperspace Hole, since Hoopa Unbound did it too, and it already has four other moves. Remember, the anime has been pretty consistent with the "only four moves at a time" thing over the recent years, so... --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:40, 18 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
::That was Hyperspace Fury. It's Unbound Form doesn't use Hyperspace Hole. Only when it is in its Confined Form.[[User:Seabiscuit2020|Seabiscuit2020]] ([[User talk:Seabiscuit2020|talk]]) 06:45, 18 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
:::I know. That's what I was saying. The rings are just Hoopa's special power. Confined didn't use them as an attack, so it wasn't Hyperspace Hole. Also, Unbound used its rings the same way too, so it can't be that move. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 14:56, 18 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
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==Clemont's Inventions==<br />
Can you add the information of Clemont's inventions from [[XY088]] and [[XY089]], please? -- [[User:Seabiscuit2020|Seabiscuit2020]] ([[User talk:Seabiscuit2020|talk]]) 22:10, 22 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Old Amber ==<br />
I don't understand why there's no need for that. In gen. I there weren't key items, and it doesnt say so in the text. ( first time: 8 November 2015 9:33:45 (UTC)) [[User:Lokki|Lokki]] ([[User talk:Lokki|talk]]) 20:04, 23 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Items! ==<br />
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I just want to go into a bit more detail about why I like the order I wrote on [[Dewford Town]]. I can certainly understand reasons for liking other orderings, and it's hard to say what may be "always" best, so I think there's definitely room for discussion. =)<br />
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1) I don't think there should be any "separation" of the games (which I'm just guessing is the reason you put the Ribbon last on Dewford). I.e., I really don't like the idea of putting all the items that first appeared in RS first, then all the items that appeared in E (but not RS), then all the items that appeared in ORAS (but not RSE) (or whatever games). That's just confusing as hell in longer lists.<br />
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2) I think items should be listed by an order of traversal. Basically, pick something that at least makes ''some'' (consistent) sense, and stick to it. Basically, N to S then E to W, or E to W then N to S, or... Anyway, this one I'm kind of taking on a case-by-case, "how do I feel" sort of basis. Currently, I'm not entirely sure if it should ''very strictly'' obey the location's natural traversal (like, you first enter from N/S/E/W, so that's where the list should start), or if maybe it should always be "reading" order (left>right (E>W), top>bottom (N>S)), or what.<br />
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2b) I'm a little torn on whether accessibility requirements should affect the order things are listed in. I.e., when you first reach some places, you may not have an HM that will let you get some of the items, so any of those that you'd have to return for could be listed after all of the things you can get immediately. ...The thing that kind of tilts my opinion in this case is that, if you don't grab any items at first and only scour the town after you have all necessary HMs (like in the postgame), then a single, coherent listing of all the items is best, otherwise you may be forced to backtrack a bit for an item that needs an HM. And at the same time, with a single, coherent list, people who are only on their first visit can easily just skip those items they can't get.<br />
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These things basically seem best and simplest/most consistent all around, to me. (And simple is best. Less room for arguments; or confusion.)<br />
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(Hope all that's not too wall-of-texty... =P ) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 16:19, 6 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Aero ==<br />
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hey! How are you? :) You must know that your page was chosen to be the official [[Aero]] one. I just happen to have worked on it too ( [[User:MannedTooth/Aero]]) and wondered if there is anything you would like to add to yours? I'm thinking of the Giovanni part, since Aero technically was owned by him before Red. Anyway, take a look at that :) [[User:MannedTooth|<span style="color:#FF8000"> MannedTooth </span>]] ([[User_Talk:MannedTooth|Talk]]) 15:12, 7 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== XYZ ==<br />
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Can you add the Finnish/Swedish name origins for [[Squishy]] and lyrics/translations for [[Stand Tall]] to the [[List of Finnish Pokémon themes]] and [[List of Swedish Pokémon themes]]? Thanks! --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 04:02, 13 May 2016 (UTC)<br />
:I'd be pleased to do so if I knew where to watch those XYZ episodes. I didn't even know they had Finnish titles until just now to be honest. The previous season ended just last week or so. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 04:09, 13 May 2016 (UTC)<br />
::http://www.pokemon.com/fi/pokemon-jaksot/ and http://www.pokemon.com/se/pokemon-avsnitt/ --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 04:18, 13 May 2016 (UTC)<br />
:::Thanks! I'll get to work on them tomorrow, I am unable to watch them just now. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 04:39, 13 May 2016 (UTC)<br />
::::Also, when you get around to adding the lyrics, the titles of the songs need to go on [[Stand Tall]] in the "In other languages" section; I forgot to mention that earlier. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 17:46, 14 May 2016 (UTC)<br />
:::::Of course. I'll keep that in mind. Also, I kinda forgot to do that today, so I'll try to remember it tomorrow. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 18:02, 14 May 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Lyrics problem ==<br />
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Hello, I don't know how much Swedish you speak but I was wondering if you could take a look at Bli en hjälte and Pokémonsången XY because I can't make out the two dotted lines I left at Bli en hjälte and also the question mark at Pokémonsången XY. I'm afraid that I couldn't find Bli en hjälte on youtube, I listened to that at tv4 play, [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODba6H8vVJs&list=PL-mKIkFm-cVXWMv4Nmb_S1c9uzx1glO9E&index=3&nohtml5=False here is the link to Pokémonsången XY movie version at youtube]. Tack på förhand. --[[User:Raltseye|<span style="color:#FF6464">R</span><span style="color:#11BB11">alts</span>]][[User talk:Raltseye|<span style="color:#6890F0">e</span><span style="color:#6464FF">y</span><span style="color:#6890F0">e</span>]] 19:28, 3 June 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Stadium 2 Trainers ==<br />
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First of all, thanks for working on getting the details for the trainers in each cup, I at least really appreciate it. :) Do you have any plans to continue with work on the Gym Leader Castle trainers? Currently all of the more detailed information is scattered over about two dozen pages, and only the Gym Leaders and Rocket Executives have any detailed data. The same thing is the case for Stadium 1's GLC as well. If you weren't planning on doing anything with them, I'd probably get to it eventually, but I thought I'd check in with you first. [[User:VioletPumpkin|VioletPumpkin]] ([[User talk:VioletPumpkin|talk]]) 02:00, 21 June 2016 (UTC)<br />
:First of all, thanks for the compliment. Second, no I wasn't planning on doing anything with the GLC Trainers. Much like core series Gym Trainers, I don't think they really need any detailed info, at least not on the Gym pages. If there are separate pages for GLC Trainers, I can reconsider. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 08:09, 21 June 2016 (UTC)<br>PS. The only Cup thing that I haven't been able to completely add was the Jr. female's Squirtle's moveset in Stadium's [[Fancy Cup|Petit Cup]] Round 2. Any source material I could find incorrectly listed its moveset as the same used by the same Trainer's Meowth in Round 1, which is why it was initially missing from the otherwise already completed Trainer list for the Cup. By watching several videos, I was able to figure out three of Squirtle's moves, but the fourth one is still unknown to me. I hate incompleteness, so I'd really appreciate any kind of help. Thank you.<br />
::I understand, and agree that putting them onto the general "Pewter Gym" and similar pages might be a bit much. I'll probably try making dedicated GLC trainer pages since it feels at least as significant as the other cups to me, but I'm not sure when I'd get around to it. And thanks for the notice about the Squirtle, I'll take a closer look at it. [[User:VioletPumpkin|VioletPumpkin]] ([[User talk:VioletPumpkin|talk]]) 15:55, 22 June 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Colo/XD script (Miror B) ==<br />
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In response to [[Special:Diff/2469466|this]] lament for Miror B's quotes, you could try checking the {{DL|User:Abcboy|text dumps}} I made for Colo/XD linked on Abcboy's userpage. If you can identify enough of the quote, you can probably get the rest of what came after it. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 12:02, 10 July 2016 (UTC)<br />
:Thanks a ton! I more than appreciate your gesture! :D --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 12:14, 10 July 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Anime edits ==<br />
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Hi! Playerking95 [[User talk:Playerking95#About unnecessary edits|seems to think]] that you've been targetting him/his edits. I'd like to ask you to describe your perspective on this situation. (Please understand I make no judgement either way at this point.)<br />
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Thanks. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 14:52, 4 August 2016 (UTC)<br />
:(P.S. I'm asking you do it here rather than respond at Playerking's talk page. It could "explode" either way, but it's a bit less likely if we keep this part here for now. Thanks.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 14:53, 4 August 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== New episodes ==<br />
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In the future, please use {{template|New episode}} when creating pages for new episodes. It's fine to make another edit after substituting the template to change anything the template doesn't fill in. This prevents errors like incorrect preview threads, incorrect ordinal numbers in the intro, allows the interwiki links to be automatically generated, and helps prevent other copy-and-paste errors. Thanks! --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 15:36, 6 August 2016 (UTC)<br />
:Thanks. I had kinda forgotten that. I'll keep that in mind. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 16:00, 6 August 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Swimming to Kalos ==<br />
How on earth could that be interpreted as not the same person? A person in a game says he will do the exact same action as someone in a different game has completed, within the same generation, when we know ORAS is set before XY and has references which say as much, and it's the same trainer class, but they're different people? I legitimately dont understand how one could come to that conclusion. [[User:Smear-Gel|Smear-Gel]] ([[User talk:Smear-Gel|talk]]) 05:11, 1 September 2016 (UTC)<br />
:How about the fact that they '''don't even have the same name?''' Word that piece of trivia a bit differently, and the only thing left to fix are possible grammar errors. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 12:46, 1 September 2016 (UTC)<br />
::Well that's dumb, I didnt even consider they'd do that. Now I wonder why on earth Gamefreak would have put that effort into that easter egg and then make the names different. Not even the Japanese names are the same? Because that seems silly. Either way I guess I need to look into that and reword it before posting again. [[User:Smear-Gel|Smear-Gel]] ([[User talk:Smear-Gel|talk]]) 22:26, 1 September 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Deoxys ==<br />
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Did Deoxys use Safeguard or Protect in PG09? And did Deoxys use Recover when it regenerated itself? [[User:Seabiscuit2020|Seabiscuit2020]] ([[User talk:Seabiscuit2020|talk]]) 20:08, 28 October 2016 (UTC)<br />
:First off: I'm surprised you thought of ME of all people when deciding to ask someone. Second: I think it was Protect, but I don't think it used Recover. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 20:13, 28 October 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Edit Summaries (again) ==<br />
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You've been spoken to before about using edit summaries to vent/complain about other users in the past. Edit summaries like [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Pok%C3%A9_Ball&curid=759&diff=2526760&oldid=2526478 these] are unnecessary and does nothing to contribute to the overall project of Bulbapedia. Follow the {{bp|Code of Conduct}} at all times. Thank you. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">--Pokemaster</span>]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">97</span>]]''''' 23:44, 29 October 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Heatran ==<br />
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What moves did Heatran use in PG12? One of which looked like Protect while the first one looked like either Flamethrower or Eruption. [[User:Seabiscuit2020|Seabiscuit2020]] ([[User talk:Seabiscuit2020|talk]]) 19:43, 5 December 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Heatran and Mimikyu ==<br />
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What moves did Heatran use in PG12? One of which looked like Protect while the first one looked like either Flamethrower or Eruption. And was Mimikyu using Feint Attack or Wood Hammer in SM003? [[User:Seabiscuit2020|Seabiscuit2020]] ([[User talk:Seabiscuit2020|talk]]) 20:19, 8 December 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Trainer classes ==<br />
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It seems to me that if old information on Plasma and Flare is wrong, we should be correcting that rather than citing it as a justification for maintaining false information on Skull, don't you think? [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 20:14, 10 February 2017 (UTC)<br />
:Are you going to answer me? [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 15:51, 20 February 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Edit warring ==<br />
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I just wanna let you know part of my own personal definition of edit warring. IMO, if you revert (basically) the same edit up to two times, that may or may not be edit warring, depending on the overall situation. But if you do it a third time, that's definitely crossed a line.<br />
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That's certainly not to say that toeing that line every time would be advisable or anything. If you can settle a conflict with discussion sooner rather than later, that's definitely preferable. And you've been around long enough. You definitely should know to use talk pages for this sort of thing, rather than trying to do it all right on [[Gladion]]. Please take more care in the future. Thanks. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 22:27, 10 February 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Electric Terrain ==<br />
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The dub CCs state explicitly that Tapu Koko used the move Electric Terrain. Unless there's explicit evidence to the contrary (like if a character states that the Electric Terrain in SM002 was a result of its Ability) it should be kept on the page. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 18:17, 23 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Playthroughs in your userspace ==<br />
Hi!<br />
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I really like your playthrough section and would like to use your code to list my playthroughs in my userpage. Is that okay? [[User:Arctic|Arctic]] ([[User talk:Arctic|talk]]) 19:40, 3 May 2017 (UTC)<br />
:Of course. Go ahead. It's not like I'm the only person who's using it to begin with. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 04:19, 4 May 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Anime moves ==<br />
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It looks like you [[Special:Diff/2635947|recently added]] some moves that Playerking removed. I just want to make sure our policy on adding moves from the anime is clear: unless the move is called (or else explicitly identified after being used), don't assume.<br />
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The only moves it's tentatively acceptable to identify by animation alone are the ones listed [[User:Force Fire/List of moves with unique animations|here]]. Honestly, I don't know the scenes in question, and Hyper Beam is on that list so I don't know what to say about that; but Bite isn't.<br />
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Anyway, please keep this in mind when adding moves for the anime in the future. Thanks! [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 14:15, 4 May 2017 (UTC)<br />
:[[Special:Diff/2663846|Please remember]] the above. If you think Hydro Pump has a unique animation, consider bringing it up on the talk page Force Fire's user page. Please be careful as well about generally engaging in edit wars.<br />
:I don't think this guideline is all that hard to grasp. Please remember next time. Thanks. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 14:59, 6 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
::[[Special:Diff/2678822|This thing]] with Thunder Wave seems to be the exact same situation as Hydro Pump just above. It's been a little while since then so I'm going to remind you this once more, but if it happens again, as far as I'm concerned you will be earning a block to help you remember afterwards. If a move is not stated explicitly, do not add it; at most, ask someone. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 17:10, 17 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::''(The resposne below is technically copied from [[Special:Diff/2678964|here]].)''<br />
:::I'm sorry if I seemed arrogant or whatever by adding that {{m|Thunder Wave}} use. However, I would like to assure you that I've learned my lesson: I don't add too ambiguous moves without them being confirmed anymore. However, this case wasn't ambiguous at all in my mind: the animation used for the move was identical to the one used in the {{series|XY}}, you can check it out yourself if you want. A couple other users have also already left agreeing opinions to T-Wave's talk page. Do you give me the permission to restore my edit? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 04:30, 18 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::Please keep conversations in one place.<br />
::::In case it wasn't clear after all, this isn't about adding moves that are "too ambiguous". This is about adding moves that are ''not explicitly stated''. If such a move is not on Force Fire's user page, don't add it. Neither Hydro Pump nor Thunder Wave were on that page. You're welcome to ask, but it's not your judgement to make. Ask. Always ask.<br />
::::Thanks. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 05:48, 18 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::::The point my friend is trying to make is that Thunder Wave is a completely unique animation and, without a doubt, SHOULD be added to Force Fire's page. [[User:05308|<font color="blue">Diamond</font>]] [[Lanturn (Pokémon)|<font color="yellow">Lanturn</font>]] [[User talk:05308|<font color="red">CodeName: 05308</font>]] 09:43, 18 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::::For Tiddlywinks: That sounds pretty complicated. I recall that it hasn't always been like that, which is probably why I'm having tough times adapting to this way of doing things. Also, I think that having to wait for an agreement on any unspoken move or Ability's identity sounds really boring, and it feels to me like a legit fact is being withheld from the site for no good reason. But it seems I have no choice but to submit...<br><br />
::::::For 05308: Yeah, I agree that it should be done ASAP.<br />
::::::PS. Sorry for rambling. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 11:12, 18 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::::::I understand your point, 05308; it's still ''your'' opinion and not your decision to make. I hope you follow the same guidelines: ask. Thanks. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 15:34, 18 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::::::Hol on a minute, is a "point" or an "opinion"- the animation for Thunder Wave that has been used throughout the XY series (And now in the Sun and Moon series) IS a unique animation. That is a fact and not an opinion. Even if you want to argue that what Murkrow used was Upproar, and the animation was (for some reason) exactly the same as Thunder Wave's animation in XY. Thunder Wave's animation in XY was factually unique. Force Fire has acknowledged the list is unfinished so Thunder Wave's absence from the list is not invocative of Thunder Wave not having a unique animation. Don't patronize me with nonsense about everything being an opinion. Thunder Wave should be on the list for its XY (and SM) animation- that's not an opinion. [[User:05308|<font color="blue">Diamond</font>]] [[Lanturn (Pokémon)|<font color="yellow">Lanturn</font>]] [[User talk:05308|<font color="red">CodeName: 05308</font>]] 19:38, 18 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::''It's not your judgement to make''.<br />
:::::::::If we just go, sure, we're sure you're right, then we have to allow anyone's opinion about anything. We're not opening that can of worms or we'll just have basically the same as we did before and/or more edit wars.<br />
:::::::::This isn't hard: just ask. I hope you understand. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 19:56, 18 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::If I may intrude, 05308, I think Tiddlywinks' point that you aren't understanding is that because it's not on the list ''yet'', we must wait until it has been added to the list ''before'' we can add it based on appearance. It's not about whether Thunder Wave might or might not be something else, it's about jumping through the proper hoops even with things you think are "obvious" so that there isn't a precedent for cutting corners in the future when someone decides something else is "obvious" and gets it wrong. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 21:37, 18 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
I absolutely understand the thing about not assuming moves and all that comes with it- I don't always agree but whatever. However, Thunder Wave did have a unique animation in XY- that is a fact and not an opinion. I don't care what you put on any of the pages, but opinions and facts are different. If being an admin means you'll not admit you're wrong even at the expense of showing you can understand very simple concepts- you are not doing a good job. <br />
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I apologise that all this has to happen on FinnishPokéfan's page. [[User:05308|<font color="blue">Diamond</font>]] [[Lanturn (Pokémon)|<font color="yellow">Lanturn</font>]] [[User talk:05308|<font color="red">CodeName: 05308</font>]] 22:03, 18 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
:Come on... Look. I'm not saying Thunder Wave isn't a unique move&mdash;I'm not making any judgement on that score. Okay? I'm saying your judgement doesn't decide whether it can be added as "unique". I hope you understand. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 22:51, 18 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
::I understand, I've understood since before I interjected into to conversation, but you keep saying "I hope you understand" and that makes it look like I don't understand. Please stop. By the by, I realise what I said about "simple concepts" would come across quite rude so I apologise for that. [[User:05308|<font color="blue">Diamond</font>]] [[Lanturn (Pokémon)|<font color="yellow">Lanturn</font>]] [[User talk:05308|<font color="red">CodeName: 05308</font>]] 23:04, 18 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::I feel pretty safe in saying that "I hope you understand" doesn't usually mean literally understand the concepts; it usually means more like "I hope you understand where we're coming from (and can accept it)"... I'm not trying to belittle you, I'm trying to be polite. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 23:24, 18 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::Bureaucracy at its finest. ''Nothing'' goes ''anywhere'' without first being signed in triplicate, sent in, sent back, queried, lost, found, subjected to public inquiry, lost again, and finally buried in soft peat for three months and recycled as firelighters. This is honestly getting kinda ridiculous. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:43, 19 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Image ==<br />
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I removed the image because out of all the Sun&Moon capture episodes, this was the only one to have it. I thought that images were not suppose to go there.-- --[[User:Handmaiden 101|<span style="color:red">Handmaiden 101</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:Handmaiden 101|<span style="color:red">tAlk</span>]])''</small> 18:29, 6 May 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Cleanup ==<br />
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Noticed a few episodes I have created synopsis' for have received a cleanup requirement, any advice on how to clean it up, checked the manual but can't quite understand in relation to my synopsis'--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 15:04, 10 May 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Code of Conduct ==<br />
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Over the last several years, you've had many talk page message left by various staff members about following the Code of Conduct and remaining respectful in edit summaries. As you [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=List_of_Sun_%26_Moon_series_episodes&curid=217082&diff=2664255&oldid=2664243 demonstrated here] this message hasn't reached you. I understand you may disagree or have conflicts with other users, but behavior of this nature creates a very abrasive and non-inviting atmosphere on Bulbapedia. Please take 3 days off and when you return, make it an effort to be more conscious of our policies. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">--Pokemaster</span>]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">97</span>]]''''' 21:29, 7 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Conduct ==<br />
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In [[Special:Diff/2669087|your recent comment]] to Playerking, you appear to have tried to avoid directly insulting Playerking, but you quite failed. You did not at all need that line before the "PS". Attempting to disclaim it at the end doesn't make it "OK", it's still an insult. Be careful about how your passions sway you in the future. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 13:49, 20 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
:My apologies. I guess since I was having a sort of bad mood at the moment (walking outside in a rain and so forth) I wanted to vent that bad mood into that insult. But I fully admit, it was inappropriate, and I apologize. I tried to avoid being rude, but it seems I didn't quite make it all the way through. I promise I'll do my best to avoid this in the future. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 14:08, 20 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Edit Warring ==<br />
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Rather than [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Kiawe%27s_Marowak&diff=2670213&oldid=2670210 complaining about it in the edit summary], try using the talk pages to sort out issues. They are there for a reason. You've been here long enough to know not to edit war. Regarding the trivia, you're stretching the trivia too far to make it notable.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#F1912B">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#F6B775">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#5599CA">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#90BDDC">ire</span>]] 14:59, 22 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Talk pages ==<br />
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Rather than trying to sort out disagreements using the edit summaries, go to the user's talk page and discuss it there. Going back and forth in the edit summaries is a futile attempt and comes off as edit warring. Thank you.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#F1912B">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#F6B775">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#5599CA">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#90BDDC">ire</span>]] 03:36, 28 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Direct linking ==<br />
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I'm not gonna try to argue with you because it's clear you won't listen. But I just want to ask you this: what is the point of the staff ruling on something if you're just going to ignore the ruling and say you "don't care" about it? [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 16:29, 25 September 2017 (UTC)<br />
:Sorry, that's just how I can be when I'm in a grumpy. I know it doesn't justify anything, and I apologize. I just get irritated when I see redirect links being added on purpose. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 16:34, 25 September 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== DJ Leo ==<br />
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Were the Dugtrio's names the same in the Finnish dub as in the English? --[[User:Raltseye|<span style="color:#FF6464">R</span><span style="color:#11BB11">alts</span><span style="color:#6464FF">eye</span>]] [[User talk:Raltseye|prata med mej]] 15:30, 28 October 2017 (UTC)<br />
:Nope. They're the same as the Swedish ones. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 16:56, 28 October 2017 (UTC)<br />
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==Hey==<br />
Goes without saying, I'm glad that Bulbapedia is unlocked once more--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 09:58, 4 January 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Agreed. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 10:00, 4 January 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== hello ==<br />
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Hello, well, I'm new to the page and I wanted to know what is the error of my grammar, I do not see anything wrong, I just wanted to know what are the mistakes friend.<br />
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--[[User:Grizzlyring123|Grizzlyring123]] ([[User talk:Grizzlyring123|talk]]) 11:47, 7 January 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Sorry if this sounds harsh, but your grammar is unsuitable for Bulbapedia's standards. Not using big capital letters when needed is just one of your many problems. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:51, 8 January 2018 (UTC)<br />
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Well, I'm sorry, my English is not so good, but I can fix it<br />
--[[User:Grizzlyring123|Grizzlyring123]] ([[User talk:Grizzlyring123|talk]]) 11:47, 7 January 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Help please ==<br />
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I would like to be able to edit my profile, but since I am a user I can not do it and it is frustrating. How can I change user to another rank? I want to edit my profile.<br />
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I've seen other people if they can<br />
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--Grizzlyring123 (talk) 12:16, 8 January 2018 (UTC)<br />
:If you want to edit your user page, just click the red link on your user name. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 06:18, 8 January 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Finnish name ==<br />
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I'm sort of iffy on this one, could you check if it adds up? [[Special:diff/2734483]] --[[User:Raltseye|<span style="color:#FF6464">R</span><span style="color:#11BB11">alts</span><span style="color:#6464FF">eye</span>]] [[User talk:Raltseye|prata med mej]] 13:11, 22 January 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Yeah, that wasn't right at all. Thanks for asking. Also, it's just a direct translation of "Repel" instead of "Max Repel", so I took the liberty of removing it from that page. If you wish for me to add the correct translation to [[Repel]]'s page, I can gladly do that. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 14:05, 22 January 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Yeah, why not? The Swedish and Danish are litterally both just "Insect spray" anyway, I'll move them too. --[[User:Raltseye|<span style="color:#FF6464">R</span><span style="color:#11BB11">alts</span><span style="color:#6464FF">eye</span>]] [[User talk:Raltseye|prata med mej]] 16:15, 22 January 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Update Snap Articuno ==<br />
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Hi,<br />
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https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Articuno_(Fossil_2)&diff=0&oldid=2737190<br />
The information on the trivia section is incorrect as the card will have the SNAP writing on the bottom as seen on a copy I have recently purchase from Japan - https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/m224480649<br />
This is misinformation from the old pokemon book which had the wrong scans inside it which didnt have the writing on 3 of the card Squirtle, Charmander and Articuno. I had purchased a squirtle and charmander S~nap promo and forwarded scans for you to update a couple months back and will do the same once the articuno is in my hands. Il send the scans through the discord server as last time.<br />
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https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:CharmanderSnapBestPhotoContest.jpg /https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:SquirtleSnapBestPhotoContest.jpg As you can see I provided the scans for both of the updated images.<br />
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Any problems and information you require just let me know.<br />
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[[User:Onlycollectables|Onlycollectables]] ([[User talk:Onlycollectables|talk]]) 12:37, 29 January 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Edit summaries ==<br />
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Could you please stop with the semi-aggressive edit summaries, like the "Please" and "No, no, no" that you commonly do. If you have a problem with someone's reading and writing skills, you can go to the user's talk page and correct them on their errors. Do understand that there are some users who first language is not English, so errors are bound to appear. Thank you.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#F1912B">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#F6B775">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#5599CA">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#90BDDC">ire</span>]] 04:20, 16 February 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Bone Rush edit ==<br />
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I apologize, I was looking at the wrong section. That said, I think the 'Incomplete' tag belongs in the 'In other generations' section, as that is where the Gen VI image is missing from {{unsigned|Bg samm}}<br />
:I can understand that. Just be careful not to make this kind of mistakes in the future. Also, don't forget to sign your comments on talk pages. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:03, 2 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Item availability ==<br />
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I'd argue that since Po Town is only accessible in Sun, Moon, Ultra Sun, and Ultra Moon(as of right now), someone would know that an item is available in all those versions without it having to be stated outright.--[[User:Voltdetector|Voltdetector]] ([[User talk:Voltdetector|talk]]) 13:08, 17 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I was merely trying to avoid confusion, so that people don't mistake that the note saying "USUM" would be referring to ''both'' items, instead of just the latter. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 13:20, 17 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
::You could simply put the Team Skull Cap first, I feel that could resolve the problem just as well.--[[User:Voltdetector|Voltdetector]] ([[User talk:Voltdetector|talk]]) 03:04, 18 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Platinum's Froslass ==<br />
Do you want [[User:FinnishPokéFan92/Platinum's Froslass]] to be mainspaced? If so ask [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] to do it. I'll also stop creating redirect links. [[User:Reinhartmax|Reinhartmax]] ([[User talk:Reinhartmax|talk]]) 11:53, 20 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Thanks. I'll do so. And thanks for hearing me out. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 11:56, 20 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Do you plan on asking him anytime soon? [[User:Reinhartmax|Reinhartmax]] ([[User talk:Reinhartmax|talk]]) 18:57, 25 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::I meant to ask during the weekend, but forgot. I'll get to it at some point, I haven't forgotten about it. Don't worry. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:03, 26 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Undoing linking edits ==<br />
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We were talking about this before, and as far as I'm concerned, my conclusion was to respect you and your position even though I don't really understand all of it. And because you do have a point that, at any specific point in time, {{template|DL}}s are typically better than redirect links, I've refrained from going to any page in order to only change links there when I have no intention to create the item article(s) myself soonish. It's just a matter of time, though, since all (regular) items are going to receive independent articles in the near future (hopefully). Not sure if you knew this, but now you do, please be aware that I don't really see the point in changing links to future articles back to DLs as adamantly as you have done. That's essentially two extra edits (and I'm trying to minimize edits), and more future work.<br />
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To answer [[Special:Diff/2754146|your specific question]]: I've asked a staff member who has the appropriate powers to mainspace articles on both "Bottle Cap" and "Gold Bottle Cap" that already exist in the userspace. You will see my motivation when you think of what would happen if these are mainspaced ''before'' the links are changed: text that says "Gold Bottle Cap" would link to a page that does not cover "Gold Bottle Cap", and that's to be avoided. (And I didn't look for pages with only <code><nowiki>{{DL|Bottle Cap|Bottle Cap}}</nowiki></code> but without <code><nowiki>{{DL|Bottle Cap|Gold Bottle Cap}}</nowiki></code>, because the first one technically ''can'' be changed later, which I understand you prefer.)<br />
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So, please, try to not only see your position, and try to avoid edit wars, for I can assure you I try to do the same. If any of ''my'' edits are of serious concern, I will probably have a reason, and some others probably have, too. And before anything else, please don't just undo, and don't undo and ask for clarification in the edit summary; I know you know where my talk page is. Thanks! [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 16:33, 20 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
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:I've had some (kinda sorta) paperwork to do today, so I'm going to be brief here: I apologize for my apparent selfishness. It's a trait I have that is not intentional, and I didn't mean to offend you. I understand now. Thanks for explaining. (PS. I had kinda already forgotten about this whole thing already, in fact, so this came just a little bit out of the blue.) --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 16:39, 20 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
::You're welcome, and thanks for understanding. (I wasn't offended anyway, there's no hard feelings.) [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 16:45, 20 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Good. No hard feelings on either side. Let's hope you'll get those item pages done soon. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 16:48, 20 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Violet City ==<br />
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Why are you continually undoing changes that make the page more accurate and precise? Retrogression = Evil, are you trying to be evil?<br />
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[[User:Monsterhart|monsterhart]] ([[User talk:Monsterhart|talk]]) 09:54, 5 April 2018 (PT)<br />
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In the future if you notice a formatting error in 1 part of a multipart edit where the other part(s) are simply corrections to text, edit the page and fix the formatting of that one part. Don't just undo the entire edit, leave it alone and let someone else fix it if you don't feel like fixing the mistake properly. I eventually figured out the mistake and fixed it myself anyway. <br />
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[[User:Monsterhart|monsterhart]] ([[User talk:Monsterhart|talk]]) 10:57, 5 April 2018 (PT)<br />
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:1) Whoa! That's a bit too much. There's no reason to be rude. 2) Except that you didn't. You only added one item instead of the complete Rock Smash item list. However, I ''do'' thank you for noticing that Violet City had a smashable rock which Bulbapedia had forgotten to mention. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 06:20, 6 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
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::1) Why didn’t you answer my question? How is it too much to ask if your intention is to hurt the website rather than improve it? And is it considered rude to ask someones intentions now? Where I’m from asking someones intentions is how issues are resolved and thus is seen as a sign of maturity, not rudeness. <br />
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::2) Except that I did, which you know because in your most recent edit in order to worsen the grammar you edited the same thing which was the other thing I had edited. I changed it from “On the grey island...” to “In the upper left of the grey island...” which I made to improve the website after spending a significant amount of time searching the entire island and it being in the last place I looked. You were undoing this the entire time too, and it shows you what has been changed so I don’t understand how you could have actually missed it and assume you are just lying for some reason... Further more you changed it to “On the upper left side of the small grey island...” which adds an unnecessary word (more reading without improved clarity is a detriment) and changes a correct word to an incorrect one. Though in your defense that is a common mistake for ESL learners, at least I’m assuming Finnish is your first language. <br />
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::So why would you undo that? In my second message and on I then knew you were undoing it because of the rock smash thing but I didn’t know that at the time I wrote the first message. Also I’ve played HG twice and SS once and all 3 times I found a Heart Scale in that exact rock, so I assumed it was a permanent fixture rather than just a random event. <br />
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::So the only reason I was able to imagine that you would be undoing my post is because you wanted the website to not progress, but instead of just reporting you I did the mature thing in recognizing that it could be for some practical reason I was unable to imagine and asked you in the most concise way I could think of (because people on the internet vehemently insist on conciseness 99.9% of the time) if what I thought was truly the case or if you had some other reason for it. Which it turns out you did have a good reason, at least for part of it. You’ve yet to give me a good reason for why you were also undoing my clarity change for that specific item though.<br />
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::[[User:Monsterhart|monsterhart]] ([[User talk:Monsterhart|talk]]) 10:27, 6 April 2018 (PT)<br />
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:::I'll be as brief as possible with my answer: I'm not trying to be evil or prevent this site from progressing, quite the opposite, in fact. I'm merely trying to keep the quality as close to Bulbapedia's standards as possible. And you can see that your most recent edit on the page was reversed by one of the higher-ranking members of this site, meaning that you may have to broaden your views on how to improve this site. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 17:47, 6 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
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::::He clearly did that to be offensive. He was flaunting his authority in order to punish me for “attacking” you (as he stated on my talk page) even though I clearly did not do that. Such a thing is an abuse of power and does not mean that I was wrong about this.<br />
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::::Edit: However I do feel that the situation on the Violet City page between the two of us is more or less resolved, and no longer feel the need to further discuss it with you. If you really were offended by the wording of my initial question I apologize, that was not my intention. My intention was to express my perspective on your actions and give you the opportunity to present an alternative possibility, so as to lead to the resolution of the “undo war” between us which was indeed the result. <br />
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::::[[User:Monsterhart|monsterhart]] ([[User talk:Monsterhart|talk]]) 11:44, 6 April 2018 (PT)<br />
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== SM052 Complaint ==<br />
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"Not good enough for Bulbapedia's standards"? Dude, I left that incomplete stub tag there for a reason. The plot was still incomplete. I was gonna go back to add more and you went and deleted it entirely, all because it's not good enough for Bulbapedia's standards? How could the plot I put in, which was incomplete as the stub stated, be not good enough for Bulbapedia's standards? You have to be more specific than that, or do you insist the plot remains blank until its fully complete? You sir, have no disrespect for those who were just trying to help. Now thanks to you, I lost motivation to work on that page. [[User:Char89|Char89]] ([[User talk:Char89|talk]]) 05:16, 21 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Whoa! No need to be aggressive! Just leaving the synopsis temporarily incomplete wasn't the problem. (I've done some synopsises in bits myself, too.) The problem was your grammar. ''That'' was the thing I felt wasn't up to code. Sorry. I know you want to help, but if your help isn't good enough, it will just take other users' time in fixing it. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:21, 21 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
::My grammar? You mean to tell me, the plot I've written on that page was deleted because of my grammar? What are you, an English teacher? What the heck's wrong with my grammar that causes you to delete it? And don't think I don't notice the other complaints you've been receiving. I've seen users upset with you because you delete their edits because of "Bulbapedia's standards." If it violates the standards, then let the admins handle it. You're making a bad reputation for yourself by being the grammar nazi here. I was only trying to contribute to the wiki, but instead you undo my edit saying my grammar is bad. What a waste of my time. Listen, if you don't stop deleting pages because it doesn't meet the standards, sooner or later someone will report you to the admin. You want to talk grammar, here's something. "Synopsises" is not even a real word. [[User:Char89|Char89]] ([[User talk:Char89|talk]]) 05:39, 21 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Core Series games Quotes ==<br />
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I'm currently doing a overhaul of all the quotes for NPCs for all core series games from Kanto to Alola. For Colress, the line for Route 8 after becoming the Champion "Genesect is a..." only happens when a player selects "I don't", and not for "I do!". And last time, we have decided against bold-ing the words in a "scream" speech balloon. As for the linking of references to other characters or items, I'll have to ask if we are doing the linking or not (well, I predict they'll say it doesn't matter). If yes, I'll have to apply this to all other NPCs. If not, all links references will be removed. Cheers! — '''[[User:Ruixiang95|<span style="color:#1E90FF;">Ruixiang</span>]][[User talk:Ruixiang95|<span style="color:#4B0082;">95</span>]]''' 08:50, 30 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Sorry. I just got a little carried away. I can easily get arrogant towards people who are doing stuff I at first glance deem wrong. I apologize. It's a characteristic of mine that needs some SERIOUS work. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 09:31, 30 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Re: {{t|Dragon}} trivia. ==<br />
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Another page ''used to'' have trivia like that, but not anymore. Also, if we say that Dragon has been combined with every type except Bug, shouldn't we say Grass has been combined with every type except Fire? (We say that Water and Flying have been combined with every type in their lists of Pokémon). [[User:Dinosauramiable|Dinosauramiable]] ([[User talk:Dinosauramiable|talk]]) 12:15, 11 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
:If that fact is indeed true, I see why not. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 12:18, 11 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
It's already listed there. [[User:Dinosauramiable|Dinosauramiable]] ([[User talk:Dinosauramiable|talk]]) 20:13, 11 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== File name mistake on the Archives ==<br />
I accidentally uploaded a file to "BW076 original trailer.png" when I meant to put "SM076 original trailer.png." Are you able to fix it, please? [[User:The Great Butler|The Great Butler]] ([[User talk:The Great Butler|talk]]) 04:40, 25 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I'd love to help you, but I can't. Only admins are allowed to move image file names. Ask one of them if they could help. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 04:57, 25 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
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==Adding legendary stats==<br />
I am planning to add the stats of the legendary Pokémon encounters that are uncatchable (eg. fused Kyurem, fused Necrozma, Ultra Necrozma). [[User:Jskylinegtr|Jskylinegtr]] ([[User talk:Jskylinegtr|talk]]) 05:43, 26 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Sorry, but the higher-ups have said no to this kind of stuff before and now. Talk with them if you want to. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:50, 26 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Poke ball on Route 104 ==<br />
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It requires going through a certain section of Petalburg Woods, and doesn't that section require cut? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 19:39, 26 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I checked it, and it doesn't. Next time, please check stuff like this before making an edit. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 03:38, 27 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
::You're right. Sorry. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 04:05, 27 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Shadow Hold ==<br />
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Why did you delete my edit? [[Shadow Hold]] IS similar to [[Spirit Shackle]] in the way it prevents opponents from switching out.<br />
:All they have in common is that they trap the opposing Pokémon. That's it. Shadow Hold doesn't even do damage like Spirit Shackle. Besides, they were released four Generations apart. PS. Please use link templates to avoid redirect links. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 06:17, 30 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Protecting moves ==<br />
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Why did you delete my edits on Protecting moves failing? If both mons use Protect in the same turn, then the move for the mon that protects last fails. I described this and, instead of fixing it yourself because I have bad grammar or something, you deleted it; your reasoning was that it "Needs a bit of adjusting... " Here is a link to why that information is important in battle: https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7randombattle-767832306 (skip to turn 19). {{unsigned|Dawkamist}}<br />
:It's not that I don't believe the validity of your information. I just think you didn't do those edits properly, like placing the text in improper places, and not putting links where they should be. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 04:42, 28 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Unique moves ==<br />
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The point of not presuming a move is for people not to presume they know best. You may think this or that case is COMPLETELY obvious, but if we allow one person to get by because something is "obvious", that just leaves room for someone else to think they know best too and complain if it was okay for someone else but not them. The whole point is to just cut out ANY possibility for such arguments by ONLY acknowledging moves that have been explicitly named or (at least tentatively) explicitly approved otherwise.<br />
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Mind Blown has not been approved. You cannot assume that it should be.<br />
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It may be very possible that Mind Blown will be approved, but that's not ''your'' decision. Ask. Ask anyone on staff. Then we'll decide what's warranted.<br />
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[[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 13:48, 29 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Clean Up messages ==<br />
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Hi FinnishPokéFan92,<br />
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I've noticed you have placed several clean up messages on a few of the plot summaries that I have posted. While other users have cleaned up several other Sun and Moon episode plots, I've noticed that SM063 and SM068 are yet to be cleaned up, as well as an earlier alert posted on Morty's Gengar. It would be of great assistance if you can point out what glaring issues that are required to be cleaned up, I'm afraid that I cannot see any issues, and maybe other users cannot either. Plus the feedback would also help me for my future edits going forward.<br />
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Also thank you for the work you have been doing on various associated anime pages. I appreciated the note of feedback on the Cinnabar Island page as it allowed me to put the right information on the right pages.[[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 14:37, 29 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
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Thanks for the compliment!<br><br />
The thing is, I just find that the language in some synopsises is kinda clunky and does not flow too well. I would want to help fixing them, but, to be perfectly blunt, I don't usually have the patience or attention span required for that kind of thing. Sorry. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 16:08, 29 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
:: Flow - that gives me some direction to follow. Thanks [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 16:43, 29 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== SM081 ==<br />
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I was wondering why you removed the Battle Royal part from the major events. I would think a battle like that would be important enough. {{unsigned|Rahl}}<br />
:I don't see it being as important to the overall plot of the series as Ash's previous matches with the Masked Royal. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 19:05, 5 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Stub Removal ==<br />
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Hi FinnishPokéFan92,<br />
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I and GrammarFreak01 have been busy editing several stub pages in the hope of having them be removed from the stub list. I thought it was best that a third party, like yourself, do the evaluation and hopefully the removal of such messages? Or is there someone else who is in charge of such a procedure? [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 04:15, 9 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Oh? Was supposed to be decided by somebody else? Sorry. I didn't know. I just figured that those pages seemed long enough to not be considered stubs anymore. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 04:19, 9 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:: I'm afraid they hadn't been evaluated yet. Here are the pages: <br />
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*[[Absentia Natural Park]]<br />
*[[Ephraim's parents]]<br />
*[[Alex's grandfather]]<br />
*[[Angus]]<br />
*[[Corina]]<br />
*[[Betty]]<br />
*[[Delbert]]<br />
*[[Gail]]<br />
*[[Luna Carson]]<br />
*[[cliff]]<br />
*[[Kingdom of the Vale]]<br />
*[[Galea]]<br />
*[[Fitzwilliam]]<br />
*[[Connally]]<br />
*[[Edmund]]<br />
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Thanks [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 04:29, 9 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::I'm sorry, but I really didn't need that list. I didn't even ask for it. I merely apologized for not knowing that the removal of the "stub" template apparently requires a third party decision (if that indeed is the case, because I've never even heard of it before). In either case, that list is completely unnecessary for me. Just so that you know. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 04:51, 9 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::I'd misinterpreted your earlier comment. And I am not aware of needing a third party to remove stubs, I just assumed that may be the case, apologies for the confusion.[[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 04:57, 9 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::Good. So no harm done. Apology accepted. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:08, 9 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::I found information on the stub removal policy. It clarified that if a page was filled with enough information the stub alert could be deleted. For some other features like voice actor's or a new image an incomplete alert could be placed instead. [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 06:01, 9 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
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I think all you need to do to remove stubs is to add verifiable information to it that might've been originally missing. That's all. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 08:06, 9 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Route 112 trivia ==<br />
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When someone adds trivia that's good but has bad grammar, you're supposed to correct the grammar, right? Not delete it completely? Anyway, what was wrong with my trivium? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 20:26, 17 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:The grammar wasn't up to code, the title was done the wrong way... I admit. It was late and I simply didn't feel up to just fixing it, so I took the easier route. But whatever the case, it wasn't up to code. The piece of trivia itself may very well have been valid, but the way you tried to add it to the page was inadequate. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 04:33, 18 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
::I re-added it. Is it better now? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 05:06, 18 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Almost. The title was a bit off, but I fixed it. Now it should be fine. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:16, 18 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::Thanks for not deleting it this time. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 05:31, 18 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::The mistakes were much more easier to fix up and I wasn't as tired as before, so it was no problem. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:39, 18 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Route 5 Cut link ==<br />
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I'm trying my best, but I can't for the life of me think of any good reason to remove a link to {{m|Cut}} on the [[Kalos Route 5]] page. Is there some Bulbapedia policy that discourages linking to moves in that context? Or one that encourages scouring page histories to undo any revision that didn't add ''enough'' to the article? I was under the impression that minor edits were allowed. And if it were up to me, I'd say the only revisions that should be undone are ones that make an article worse. — [[User:Randomwaffle23|Randomwaffle23]] ([[User talk:Randomwaffle23|talk]]) 02:20, 23 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Oh, minor edits are allowed. We just don't tend to add links to Trainer template divider titles. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 06:31, 23 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Why? — [[User:Randomwaffle23|Randomwaffle23]] ([[User talk:Randomwaffle23|talk]]) 14:31, 23 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Why not? Besides, the links to those moves also exist elsewhere on the page. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 16:17, 23 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::"Why not?" Because links can be helpful, that's why we have them. And I really, truly doubt that duplicating links is the issue, because if it were, we wouldn't allow [[Kalos Route 18#West of the river|fifty-one duplicate links in a single table]]. The most relevant portion of the [[Bulbapedia:Manual of style#Article titles|manual of style]] recommends to "only link to an article once within a given portion of text". I assume a portion of text means a paragraph, bullet point, table cell, or the like, not a whole article. "''Instances further apart may be linked to more than once.''" (The [[wp:Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Linking#Repeated links|corresponding Wikipedia policy]] is that "a link may be repeated in infoboxes, ''tables'', […] and at the first occurrence after the lead.")<br />
::::The question you should ask yourself when undoing an edit is, ''How did this edit make the article worse?'' You need a better answer than "why not". — [[User:Randomwaffle23|Randomwaffle23]] ([[User talk:Randomwaffle23|talk]]) 17:24, 23 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::Whoa! You were more versed in this than I would've guessed. I'll be honest with you, I just saw that your edit was poorly made (as well as unnecessary for the reasons I gave above), so I deleted it. Sorry. But I still stand by my point: there's no need for it. It's perfectly fine to have repeated move links in the item templates and such, but there's no need to start adding move links to where they have never existed, such as the Trainer template divider titles. So may I please ask you to let this go? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 17:31, 23 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::I'm curious what you mean when you say the edit was "poorly made". I took care to include an HTML span tag to make sure the link stayed white instead of turning blue, since blue would've looked poor on the dark background. (The <nowiki>{{m|Cut}}</nowiki> template doesn't allow tags like that, which is why I didn't use it.) The only way someone would even have noticed the link is if they wanted to click it, or if they were scouring the page history.<br />
::::::At this point don't really care anymore whether the thing's linked or not. I'm not gonna re-link it. I just want to convince you not to undo any more people's contributions without a better reason than "because I personally wouldn't have bothered making this edit". Can we agree to that? — [[User:Randomwaffle23|Randomwaffle23]] ([[User talk:Randomwaffle23|talk]]) 18:50, 23 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::Hey, I swear that has NEVER been my (main) reason for undoing edits. Most of the time, there hs been a very good reason for it, only in a small minority have I done it for personal disagreement. Also, I recommend you learn to use the {{template|color}} and {{template|color2}} templates. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 19:02, 23 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::If that's not the reason, then what is? I can't think what the difference might be between an "unnecessary" edit and one that's not worth bothering to make. And if it's because I didn't use the template, why would you undo rather than improve? Adding {{template|color2}} is easy. I didn't know about the template, but you did, and that's why wikis are collaborative.<br />
::::::::[[wp:Help:Reverting#Before reverting|Undoing a good-faith edit is invalidating someone's attempt to help the wiki,]] which discourages them from contributing in the future. It should be done ''only'' when there's no feasible way to improve their contribution instead. — [[User:Randomwaffle23|Randomwaffle23]] ([[User talk:Randomwaffle23|talk]]) 21:09, 23 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::Geez! Based on your edit that I undid, I jumped to conclusions and assumed you were just a new user who didn't know their stuff, but clearly I was wrong! I'm sorry. Also, I'm not defending those edits that I've done for personal disagreements rather than solid reasons. I was being kinda stupid at those times. And hey, I hope those new templates will come in handy for you! --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:41, 24 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== "That is only if we have more Team Skull Grunts than them" ==<br />
No it isn't. Look at BW114 and SM025's pages. It's listed because they're a part of the collection of Grunts. [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]]) 14:50, 26 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Thanks for pointing those out. I fixed them now. That is only used if more than the named Grunts appear in an episode. Otherwise, that's misleading. And it applies to other groups of people as well. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 15:49, 26 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== SM083 ==<br />
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Hi,<br />
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Just saw the large undoing, which wasn't required.<br />
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I was about to apologize, and have also just re-checked you edits but they are reading in unnecessary information and grammatical errors that my edition had previously fixed. The reason for the drastic changes was largely due words ending in -ing, which are typically avoided to give the sentences more of an present tense than sounding like you are in midst of an action. And I noticed a few of the links were missing. Though I must commend you on the detail, an edit summary with over 10,000 bytes usually indicates an action packed episode and I feel you were able to capture that. I apologize for the sudden changes, but saw that they were needed. I wouldn't view the changes as a complete re-write, as I didn't have to add anything to the actual plot, it was literally just editing the sentences which in some were sometimes too long (I make the same error as well).[[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 11:35, 28 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I haven't had time and currently don't have time to sort out who's in the right or in the wrong here but I do know you both need to stop edit warring. It accomplishes nothing, so talk it out here or on the article's talk page. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 11:50, 28 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
::To clarify the situation, FinnishPokeFan92 became overwhelmed with all of my changes which were grammar based and undid everything by republished his old edition. I later found out and re-added them, with some of his later ones in mind as the same issues had persisted from earlier.[[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 11:56, 28 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::I had actually only ''mostly'' undone your edit earlier today, modifying some of the parts you had added to better fit into the synopsis, while readding some stuff that I feel was unnecessarily removed or removing some overly detailed parts. GrammarFreak01 had actually already redone a lot of your edits when I plastered my own version on top of their version, but they took it well. Let's be honest here: your intentions were good, but you also ended up adding a lot of new errors in the process, replacing the mistakes that were already being fixed. You should try just fixing the mistakes instead of rewriting the entire synopsis, unless the mistakes simply are that extensive. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 12:18, 28 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::: I streamlined the plot to reduce some of the sentence lengths and also some of the unnecessary details such as characters asking questions. GrammarFreak01 made some structural changes which were incorporated and I re-added some of your edits, prior to me reading the edited plot summary that I had earlier done as yes, there were in fact a few wrong words used by me. The sentences that were re-written was because the tense was wrong (words ending in -ing are usually avoided, but were throughout the old edition), not the information. And some words don't work well in the same sentence with just a change of tense, so a sentence has to be reconfigured to account for that.[[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 12:32, 28 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::Please note that I saw your re added segments to the plot line, despite them having been removed for good reasons. I will not be making any further changes despite my previously outlined reasons for the deletions.<br />
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:::::Now my real issue is with your snide comments on the SM084 and SM085 pages and again leaving another useless "not up to standards" template. Whether those are of a personal nature or not, please note that actual feedback for both myself and for PKMN Trainer Ryan who added the respective plots is required to ensure such errors do not occur again and that either the users in question or another user can rectify them. Do not continue this same conduct as it is a cause for friction and does not aid anyone or even the site, as you are unwilling to make the necessary changes yourself, in becoming better [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 09:05, 16 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::Firstly: what added segments are you referring to?<br />
::::::Secondly: those templates are not "useless". Those synopsises are in a genuine need of improvement, no matter who made them. True, maybe I should notify the users who made said synopsises directly on their talk pages, but I don't see that I did anything wrong by adding those cleanup templates. Also, your words come off as unnecessarily rude and rather self-important. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 09:33, 16 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::PardescanSlowbro is right, just adding a cleanup template with a frustrated edit summary helps no one, especially in 1) recent contributions (as opposed to old/low traffic pages), 2) such large contributions, and 3) contributions by regular editors.<br />
:::::::You should try to always make your edit summaries useful if you're going to put anything there. If people are going to contribute regularly, it's much better to help them. More--and more experienced--people on Bulbapedia is a good thing. FYI I read at least the first paragraph of SM 84 and 85 and there's nothing that ABSOLUTELY needs improvement to my eye. (And FWIW, don't worry about telling ME what all the problems are here; I don't need it, they do.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 17:58, 16 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::SM085 I can somewhat agree with, but if you seriously aren't seeing anything wrong with SM084's synopsis... I'm actually inclined to just deleting said synopsis so that it can be rewritten from the ground up later. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 07:23, 17 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Paintings depicting Pokémon ==<br />
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As noted in the [[Bulbapedia:Manual of style/Anime|Manual of Style for anime articles]], statues, posters, and other man made object depicting Pokémon do not count as appearances. Paintings fall under man made objects.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 11:42, 2 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Stealing items from [[Iris]] ==<br />
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It's possible to steal the Life Orb from Iris' {{tt|Druddigon|All battles except the rematches in Challenge Mode}} or {{tt|Salamence|Rematch in Challenge Mode}}.<br />
[[User:TheICTLiker4|TheICTLiker4]] ([[User talk:TheICTLiker4|talk]]) 05:57, 5 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:It is. However, you can't just keep the item after the battle, so it doesn't count. Permanently stealing items from NPC Pokémon has been impossible since [[Generation IV]]. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:59, 5 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== mt moon items ==<br />
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i was just being more specific. dome and helix are the actual fossils and it seems better than just fossils, so why not? -[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 02:21, 15 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:You don't have to be ''too'' specific. They're listed right there on the same list. And about the Super Nerd, he didn't have a name in Generation I, so simply referring him to as "Super Nerd" in the item location description applies to all Generations where he's present. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 06:05, 15 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
::but dome and helix fossils link to regular fossils so fossils are just another click away. me personally i treat each item as a separate line thats why they all have links so i think being more specific is only beneficial. i agree with the super nerd tho. -[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 17:38, 15 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::The paired Fossil articles are planned to be split into their articles, plus I don't think repeated links would look good. Also, why aren't you using any capital letters? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 17:55, 15 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::even if they are being planned to split, we can still link to both when that time comes. and when u say repeating links i see team rocket grunt repeated a million times, which seems fine to me. too lazy to use shift. -[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 21:48, 15 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::Whatever. And I meant repeating links in the item list location descriptions. Also, being too lazy to use shift... Wow. Just, wow. It's honestly not that hard. Don't make yourself look ridiculously lazy, please. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:02, 16 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::so by whatever can i take it i can change the link to dome and helix fossils? :) yeah i also meant repeating links in the item list. i see rocket grunt links a million times there. -[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 21:59, 16 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::Go ahead. I'll make adjustments if I see it necessary, but I'll keep this conversation in mind while doing so. PS. Please start using big capital letters. It's honestly not that hard. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 07:23, 17 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== repeated links ==<br />
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u seem to have a problem with repeated links; however if i go to mt moon items section i can see a team rocket grunt link over and over. so what's the problem? -[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 19:27, 23 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:The problem is that you shouldn't ''purposefully'' add repeated links. And removing them is always a plus. Plus, repeated Trainer class links on Trainer lists are a bit different case than repeated links in the item descriptions. PS. Please start using big capital letters when necessary. You're making yourself look lazy by not doing it. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 20:53, 23 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== {{t|Fairy}} type vs. {{type|Fairy}} ==<br />
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What's the difference supposed to be between those two? When am I supposed to use {{t|Fairy}} type and when am I supposed to use {{type|Fairy}}? I find this very confusing. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 00:26, 24 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:The difference is that "X-type" is an adjective, while "X type" is a noun. A good mnemonic is that "X-type" is always followed by a word, like "Sylveon is a Fairy-type Pokémon", but "X type" is not, like "Sylveon is a Fairy type". I hope that clears it up for you. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 06:09, 24 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Yeah, I think I get it now. Thanks. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 07:27, 24 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
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==Redirect==<br />
Don't suppose you know how we can redirect links like Lusamine's Cleffa and Lusamine's Clefairy to [[Lusamine's Clefable]]?--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 19:43, 25 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
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:I think I just took care of that. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 21:11, 25 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
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::It's really simple, actually. Just make a page with the redirect title, write <nowiki>#REDIRECT</nowiki>, and add the link to the page you want the redirect to lead to after that. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 08:48, 26 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Regarding Playerking ==<br />
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Hey, I just want to point out that edit summaries like [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Air_Slash_(move)&diff=2841270&oldid=2841250 these] can be considered rude. It's fine to have disagreements with another user, but to tell them to be quiet isn't the way to solve those disagreements. Preferably, discuss it with Playerking on a suitable talk page.<br />
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Besides that, may I ask what your motivation is for adding several moves, such as Flash Cannon for Nebby and Air Slash? I haven't seen the episode yet, but you should know by now that Bulbapedia is built on proof, especially when it comes to moves being used. If they weren't called out on screen, please wait until they are in another episode or wait for the closed captioning. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 14:33, 30 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Okay, I admit that I may have been a bit rude, but those moves have exactly same animations as we've already seen in the anime. Air Slash is even used in this very same episode. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 15:01, 30 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Route 206 items ==<br />
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Why did you undo my edit? A bunch of other location pages, like Mt. Coronet, have multiple item tables. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 19:55, 31 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Yes, your edit was valid. There were just a couple of errors I noticed. 1) Leave a space in between the templates. 2) You missed a couple of items that should've been under the bridge. I also felt a bit grumpy yesterday, so I didn't feel like fixing your edit, so I instead went the lazy route and undid it entirely. Don't worry. I can put it the proper way to satisfy us both now. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 06:07, 1 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Okay thanks. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 16:27, 1 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Anime move mistakes ==<br />
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I am hereby informing you that, due to continued and widespread failure to follow the anime move policy, I will be instituting a '''3 strikes policy''' for anime moves. If a user adds a move that should not be added, they get a strike. If they make another mistake when they have 3 strikes, they will receive a block. This applies to you as soon as this is posted. (I.e., you are currently at 0 strikes.)<br />
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I will attempt to reiterate the anime move policy here so that it as simple as possible to follow:<br />
* If a move is explicitly commanded, identified by a character after the fact, or identified by closed captions, it can be added.<br />
* If the move is on [[User:Force Fire/List of moves with unique animations]], it can be added.<br />
In no other circumstances should a move be added. If you cannot testify that the above conditions were met ''when you added a move'', you will receive a strike. If you feel that a move ''should'' be acknowledged, please feel free to bring it up to me or any {{bp|staff}} member.<br />
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[[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:03, 5 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I'm going to give you 24 hours to explain how [[Special:Diff/2850812|this reversion]] meets the criteria outlined above. If you cannot, you will gain a strike. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:19, 20 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Okay, maybe it doesn't, but honestly, you just aren't using common sense! You are actively removing valid information by saying that since it wasn't stated out loud, it doesn't count. This wasn't an issue at one point in Bulbapedia's history, so why is it now? '''Why?!''' There was a time when we weren't restricted by rules as unnecessarily strict as these! You are actively making Bulbapedia '''lie''' to people by removing information that even '''they''' can see is true and valid! Honestly, if there is uncertainty about a move's identity, then '''discuss''' about it! Don't '''remove''' it!<br />
::Also, like I said in the edit summary, Nebby's attack '''was''' Sunsteel Strike, since it's required to use Searing Sunraze Smash, which it had used in the previous episode. "Glowing headbutt"? Are you serious?! The animation even looks identical to the one in the games in the later appearance! I don't want to consider you as a narrow-minded or stupid person, so please, don't act like one! I'm only trying to help Bulbapedia from hurting itself! --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 06:23, 20 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::PS. Sorry about my rudeness there. I'm just really passionate about this subject. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 08:39, 20 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::''"Why is it [an issue] now?"'' Because of things like finding out someone made a wrong guess with Air Slash or Psycho Cut or whatever.<br />
:::You say, ''"if there is uncertainty about a move's identity, then '''discuss''' about it!"'' A number of people one way or another missed the chance...[[Talk:Sunsteel Strike (move)#SM053]]. In fact, I ''was'' half prepared to remove it, but I decided instead to leave that question on the talk page. Then I forgot for a while and when I remembered again I was disappointed to notice it still hadn't gotten any response. Besides which, the same goes for you: '''discuss''' it. Stop reverting just because you're "sure". Stop reverting without any new insights. I don't like to pull the authority card, but stop reverting staff just because you don't like it. '''Discuss'''. This here is important: I DO NOT say that we are hostile to all of your wants. But I, for one, just want some ''order''. We never said that people can just assume&mdash;in one place or another, we have explicitly said that's what we don't want. But I've also asked you all to ask someone on staff, and I really can't think of one time where that was anyone's first reaction. Can you see how that just gets frustrating, when I keep trying to push that? That's why I went to zero tolerance with these strikes.<br />
:::DISCUSS. We/I am here to listen. You may be very reasonable, and we may find a way to accomodate you. But it doesn't happen if you won't talk first. (Editing first will get you strikes.)<br />
:::So... You're maintaining that Nebby used Sunsteel Strike. Just to be sure we can talk about the same thing reliably, please...well, please just respond to [[Talk:Sunsteel Strike (move)#SM053]] as requested there. We'll figure it out there.<br />
:::Since you have not been able to meet the criteria clearly outlined above...<br />
:::You are at 1 strike. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 10:40, 20 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::I left the response. Again, sorry for my rudeness. I can be rude when I get frustrated, even on authority figures, because in those cases, my mindset basically becomes: "Oh, so this authority figure thinks I can't say something against their opinion? Just watch me!" I know it's not right or polite in the slightest, so, again, I apologise. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 10:59, 20 September 2018 (UTC) PS. I had actually completely forgotten about this strike system until now. That's what tends to happen with me with things that I haven't been reminded of enough.<br />
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You're super bringing this on yourself... I'm thinking that if you haven't learned so far (and with so little time passed as well in this recent case), then I'll let you dig your own grave until you finally get deep enough to learn something from it.<br />
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I'm going to skip checking whether you can justify [[Special:Diff/2852505|this edit]] since it's about the same thing you got strike 1 for and nothing has changed since then.<br />
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You are at 2 strikes. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:21, 24 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:To be honest, I WAS going to reverse the edit on Sunsteel Strike's own page as well. But I knew you'd react like this, so I instead left a message on the talk page. But apparently, even the thing I did was too much for you. Bleh... --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 07:09, 24 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Yeah. I admit. I should've removed the edit I did, or better yet, not done it at all. I'm sorry. Is it possible for me to get that second strike removed? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 07:14, 24 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::I think not. FWIW 3 strikes is not "out", it's basically your last warning. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 10:22, 24 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== My error ==<br />
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Sorry about mistaking Magic Coat as Mirror Coat, I should have read a little more before posting that. :P ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|<span style="color:teal">Frozen</span>]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|<span style="color:green">Fennec</span>]]'' 13:39, 9 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:It's okay. The important thing is you recognized your mistake and fixed it. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 13:49, 9 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Skrub's Hitmontop ==<br />
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Since I was the one who found the information in question I was told I should be the one to explain it. I was prompted to look into this when someone asked me why Eagun's Pikachu could miss moves with 100 Accuracy when battling Skrub. Since I had the files and the know-how, I looked at each instance of Skrub's Hitmontop in Colosseum's common.rel. The important thing to note is that:<br />
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The Hitmontop for Eagun's Battle at 0xDD66F9, lists 0xED as holding 0xB3, which translates to a Bright Powder<br />
All other instances, such as in his first battle with you at 0xD34A9, list 0xED as holding 0xCF, which translates to a Black Belt.<br />
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I've not seen anyone else who's proven this, so you'll just have to take my word on it.<br />
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https://imgur.com/a/YTWog00<br />
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[[User:Unalive|Unalive]] ([[User talk:Unalive|talk]]) 18:55, 28 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Okay. Thank you. This is a good and reliable source. But next time, please provide your source right away to avoid cases like this. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 20:02, 28 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== floor order ==<br />
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floor order overrides game order? Since when? there are plenty of pages where game order is used over floor order. here's two: https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Rock_Tunnel#Items<br />
https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Seafoam_Islands#Items<br />
plus game order is easier to follow--[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 17:20, 30 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Those are pages where this issue just hasn't been fixed yet. Feel free to do it yourself, if you want to. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 18:29, 30 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::"those are the pages". every page is like this. why is it an issue? why feel the need to impose floor order? game order is so much better. if i am playing a certain game i can just scroll to it and not have to wade thru the items. where did u even get this idea from? --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 18:56, 30 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::It's not on '''every''' page. In fact, it's on a ton of pages already. Not in every page (and, as I said above, it'd be good for those pages where this is not the case to have it fixed), but generally speaking, it's preferred to list items in the order of accessibility, which, in the case of places like caves and buildings, means floors, even if it contradicts the game order. This order has received admin approval, as you can see [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Cave_of_Origin&diff=2220841&oldid=2220824 here]. It's an old edit, I know, but the point is still valid. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 19:39, 30 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::what u linked i have no problem with: oras and ruby/saph are basically the same game. look at seafoam islands. rby and frlg items are interwoven, which is fine. its that hgss should be listed after, because its layout is entirely different and should not be interwoven with rbyfrlg. and yes it is every page. since u claim its not every page, id like to see an example where its not. cave of origin is not an example. i am listing items in order of accessibility. frlg was released before hg/ss. so hgss items should come after. that simple. --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 19:50, 30 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::If the layout of the floors is different, then just keep the floors in a numerical order but put the newer games after the older ones. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:55, 1 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::..that's exactly what i'm doing. for every kanto page i did that since it overlaps with the johto pages. that includes celadon department. why keep that one different. hgss should come after. --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 11:42, 1 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::The point is, '''keep the floors in numerical order'''. You can put the items '''on a floor''' in the obtainable and/or game order, but keep the floor numbers in numerical order. I hope you understood. PS. You should '''seriously''' start using capital letters. It's not that hard or tiresome. Honestly. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 16:50, 1 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::why would i use floor order. u said urself that i should list the items in terms of accessibility. not every single place is linear in the sense that i can obtain every single item on a floor before moving on to the next one. sometimes i will for example be able to get an item on the second floor before an item on the first floor. floor order is meaningless. and as ive said, if we do floor order the games will all be mixed together, and why would you want that? --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 17:07, 1 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::...This isn't getting us anywhere. We need to ask an admin about this, although I still think you should try to understand my point. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 17:15, 1 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::::what is ur point exactly? the only thing ive gathered is "use floor order". not a single reason why, tho. --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 17:19, 1 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::::Why not? It only makes sense. People see the floor numbers before the games anyway, as they, more often than not, read from right to left, so it makes sense to list them in that order. Floor order is the first priority, game order is the second. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 18:33, 1 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::::::have you not read a single thing ive said. ive given you many reasons why floor order is bad. when people are looking at the items they are playing the game and trying to find them. if u put an item that can be found at the end first thats awful. u said it urself, you should list the itens in terms of accessibility. thats what im doing. now ur saying floor order trumps that? ur contradiciting urself. --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 18:44, 1 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::::::EternalDragonX, at what order the player finds the items is '''not''' something we can control. Especially for a place that has no linearity. Just because you find an item at a certain order, doesn't mean everyone else will. Most of your concerns (this ties back to the discussion you had on TiddlyWinks page) are just things we cannot control. How the player plays the game is not our issue. Therefore, at what order a player can obtain the item is not a priority since players finds items at a different order.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 08:24, 2 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::::::::so, what, we should list all the items in floor order? and mix all the games together? yea that seems like a great idea, considering no pages are like that. not to mention how confusing that is. --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 11:51, 2 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::::::::also, are you suggesting that the order we list items in is irrelevant? thats what it sounds like ur saying, since it isn't something we can "control". which also means that i might as well list an item at the very back of the dungeon before an item right by the entrance right? --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 21:33, 2 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
{{indent}}Floor order and ''then'' game order. The ordering that you're suggesting ("sometimes i will for example be able to get an item on the second floor before an item on the first floor") is what we can't control. So what if you found the item on the second floor first before an item on the first floor? That's not something we can control. Different players play the game differently. The order where you obtain them is not of a high priority for a place like Seafoam Islands or Rock Tunnel, since it's an open area. Routes are a different story, where the ordering should be the items from point A to point B.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 06:17, 3 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:so youre seriously telling me that you would mix the gsc items with the firered items in rock tunnel? why would you do that. it serves 0 benefit. and again, youre also saying that i should list an item that may be right by the exit of an area before one near the entrance of an area? that makes no sense. these are yes or no questions by the way. also, im not really "controlling" the players, im just giving them a suggested sequence of obtaining the items; one that wouldnt involve much if any backtracking at all. accessibility order is just so much more convenient: you can get every single item by going down the list, not having to skip several items and then go back up to try and find them again. there's no reason to use floor order --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 11:58, 3 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::It's not ''that'' confusing. It's not as jumbled up as you're making it out to be. The ordering is still going to be RBY>GSC>FRLG>HGSS, regardless of the template going by floor order. Common sense should still be considered, if you know you're not going to place an item from deep in a dungeon as the first item listed, then I don't know what the problem is. You're well aware of how nonsensical that is. To make it easier, if there are two items by the entrance (one on the left and one on the right), it doesn't matter which one gets listed first because different players are going to get different items first.<br />
::We are not a walkthrough, we are not going to give a suggested ordering, we're just listing the items. No need to be nit picky about the specifics. whether someone doesn't want to backtrack isn't really our problem. Again, players play the games differently. I'd be happy to back track, while other probably wouldn't. That's just how it goes. It's not a high priority.<br />
::If you want to continue this discussion, feels free to come to my talk page or any of the location talk pages. Finnish probably wouldn't want to keep getting notified about his talk page.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 05:18, 4 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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==Thank you!==<br />
Thanks for helping me out with the formatting on the [[Lush Jungle]] and [[Diglett's Tunnel]] pages! I'm new to editing Bulbapedia, so I'm still getting the hang of how the shortcuts work and what the standards are. If you have any tips/tricks, please let me know! '''[[User:Butterfreeism|<span style="color:#625B7C">–Bu<span style="color:#C05751">tt<span style="color:#5A93AE">erfr</span>ee</span>ism</span>''']] 18:10, 30 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Thanks for the compliment. And certainly! If you feel uncertain about something, feel free to ask me or some other more experienced user. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 18:29, 30 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== viridian gym ==<br />
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what the hell was the point of that edit. its clearly not about floor order anymore so why even bother. --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 12:00, 3 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:no ones going to answer this for you --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 12:58, 4 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::I know. I'm just getting tired of this. I saw it as other Gym items going after the reward TMs, but rethinking about it, I'm not so sure about that anymore. I'll see what I'll do with it. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 15:22, 4 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::i still dont have the faintest why you put that macho brace at the end. wasnt it you yourself who said items on the same floor can be in game order? --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 17:37, 4 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::They're technically in the obtaining order now. The Revive is first because you can obtain it before the Gym battle, the reward TMs are obtained right after the Gym battle (regardless of the game, which is why ''they'' are in game order), and the Macho Brace can be obtained after Giovanni has left after the Gym battle. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 19:04, 4 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::im all for accessibility order. im the one thats preaching it. but that is only limited to being in the same game; rby and frlg are basically the same game. if there was say a potion in the exact same spot as the revive in rby in frlg, yes i would list it right after the revive, before the tm. but hgss is an entirely different game. the layout of everything is different. if an item is in a different location, it should follow game order instead. aka kanto>johto. just because the items happen to be given by the gym leader after being defeated shouldnt mean they should be together. --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 19:31, 4 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::first of all that was my talk page not his. secondly i can see you have the time to go through other peoples talk pages but not your own... --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 14:42, 5 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::i like how u read that talk page but you completely ignore the fact that i specifically ask not to just go and undo my edit because there ARE other improvements i made but you went ahead and undid all of them anyway. so thanks. real classy move. --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 14:49, 5 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::yeah u know what your edit was just so appalling im just gonna undo it and separate the tables myself... something i was planning on doing later... --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 14:56, 5 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::In case you're referring to the Victory Road edit, I reversed it because it was the easy way to put it back the way it was. If you feel like you want to improve it somehow now, feel free to do so. Just don't combine the sections to one again. Also, I DID check my talk page. I'm simply just growing tired of arguing against you and your stubbornness. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 14:58, 5 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::jesus christ i LITERALLY said that i was just going to separate the tables right now. and ill do it by breaking it up from MY edit. not yours. still also love the fact that you havent even addressed the issue of viridian gym but you do all this... --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 15:09, 5 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::::I think you're taking this a biiit too seriously. I'm honestly not sure about Gyms, since it's not often we get items other than the reward TMs from them, but for now, I'm satisfied woth how it is, for the reasons I gave you earlier. PS. Could YOU also please respond to my question? Why do you refuse to use big capital letters? It's honestly not hard at all. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 17:35, 5 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::::no im not taking this too seriously. because u went and did your victory road edit i had to undo it so that i could make my edit, which i said i would literally on my talk page, which i know you read. then you go ahead and undo my undo literally WHILE i was making my edit like i said above and i had to go and undo that AGAIN. anymore and they'd accuse me of edit warring.<br />
::::::::::::not sure eh? well guess what. i am. if you dont give me a good reason and address what i said above im undoing your edit on viridian gym. <br />
:::::::::::: ... use ... capital letters? ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4p-SUvicno --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 20:34, 5 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::::::yooooooo i know you read my last message. the fact that you made an edit means youve been on and i seriously doubt you didnt read it. --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 16:11, 6 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::::::Again, I didn't reply because I'm getting tired of this. Also, you didn't give any good reasoning for why you don't use big capital letters. Or reasoning at all, in fact. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 16:43, 6 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::::::::all right im undoing your edit. --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 17:04, 6 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== celadon department store ==<br />
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im undoing your edit. cuz we talked about how the items should follow game order regardless of floor order. :) --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 01:23, 9 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:No. You should follow the floor order. Why are you so obsessed about this? It's not right! --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 04:12, 9 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::wot m8. we talked about it in the first two paragraphs: https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:Force_Fire#floor_order_cont<br />
::game order will always be the same. --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 15:33, 9 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::...I honestly can't understand your mindset. You're way too obsessed about this. Also, '''please''', write with big capital letters like a mature person would. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 15:47, 9 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::You've clearly misinterpreted what I said EternalDragon. What I meant was that the order of the games is always going to be the same order even if the list is following floor order. So for example:<br />
:::::Floor 1:<br />
::::::RBY/FRLG<br />
::::::GSC/HGSS<br />
::::::FRLG<br />
::::::HGSS<br />
:::::Floor 2:<br />
::::::RBY/FRLG<br />
::::::GSC/HGSS<br />
::::::FRLG<br />
::::::HGSS<br />
:::::Floor 3:<br />
::::::RBY/FRLG<br />
::::::GSC/HGSS<br />
::::::FRLG<br />
::::::HGSS<br />
::::The game order is not going to get jumbled up if you follow by floor order.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 16:27, 9 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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==SM084==<br />
Regarding [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=SM084&diff=next&oldid=2859383 my edit here], I had looked beforehand if events such as this one had been noted on other episode pages, but I couldn't find any so I removed it. I figured it'd be weird to leave this when it wasn't done for other Pokémon. But you say it has been done for other Pokémon, so I was wondering what pages you were talking about. Could you maybe show an example? [[User:Satsjoe|Satsjoe]] ([[User talk:Satsjoe|talk]]) 10:46, 12 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:[[EP075]], [[EP077]], and [[EP111]]. I also guess it could be applied to one or two of Ash's Unova Pokémon that he didn't add to his party right away too, like {{AP|Palpitoad}}. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 10:50, 12 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Thanks. Guess I didn't search well enough, my bad. [[User:Satsjoe|Satsjoe]] ([[User talk:Satsjoe|talk]]) 10:58, 12 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::It's okay. Errare humanum est. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 12:55, 12 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== why not ==<br />
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all i did was reorder the items and add links. of course reordering them isnt absolutely necessary, but why not? now theres a semblance of how you obtain the items. --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 05:48, 15 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Links I can understand, but the reordering? No. These lists are '''supposed''' to be in alphabetical order, '''not''' in obtainable order. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 06:16, 15 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== When Nebby learned Sunsteel Strike ==<br />
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Can you explain why you think [[Nebby]] learned {{m|Sunsteel Strike}} when it evolved?<br />
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I'm also curious about what you meant when you said you received approval for it.<br />
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(FYI I'm not inclined to worry about strikes in this case/at this point because it's a weird situation. This is worth sorting out on its own terms for now.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 23:08, 18 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:For the exact same reason I said in the edit summary and what we discussed on your talk page just a little while ago: the anime [[SM091#Trivia|recently confirmed]] that exclusive Z-Moves need a certain move to act as their basis, just like in the games. Since Nebby used Searing Sunraze Smash in the episode where it evolved into Solgaleo, it must have also known Sunsteel Strike at the time. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 06:37, 19 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== External link on Pokemon breeding ==<br />
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Hey, I can see you reverted my change on [[Pokémon breeding]]. Would it be OK to add the link as a referrence? I'd add new section as it doesn't exists for that article. --[[User:Robdy|Robdy]] ([[User talk:Robdy|talk]]) 13:21, 19 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Ask an admin. I'd say no, but ask one of them to be sure. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 14:26, 19 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Spiritomb edits ==<br />
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Is there any specific reason why you removed my edits in the Spiritomb page? {{unsigned|ABlinkAway4}}<br />
:First off: new comments go to the bottom of the talk page. You can add a new section by clicking the "+" next to the "Edit" button.<br />
:Second: don't forget to sign your comments. The sign button is right above the edit window, the second to last button.<br />
:Third: while the trivia '''was''' valid, it was poorly written and placed. Sorry. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 10:31, 24 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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==Archive images==<br />
https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Pok%C3%A9_Problem&diff=prev&oldid=2870434<br />
I hid them for the simple reason that I didn't know they were uploaded yet and they always get hidden there without any problem. They were also hidden because they don't get uploaded that quickly. I don't hide things for no reasons, so please don't get annoyed without knowing the reason. [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]])!<br />
:I managed to find a HD version of the episode soon after it had aired. That's where I got those pictures. Sorry if you felt like I offended you. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 15:41, 29 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Pokémon League (Alola)/Title Defense page ==<br />
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I confirmed that Sophocles's Magnezone is Analytic in USUM. See also [https://twitter.com/zakocky/status/1056857442246569984 my tweet]. Deutsch and Chinese version say too so.--[[User:Zaggyo|Zaggyo]] ([[User talk:Zaggyo|talk]]) 06:56, 30 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Okay. Sorry. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 07:01, 30 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Beta Page Revision ==<br />
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Just curious why my two edits were undone; I thought they were helpful. The space on the XD page in case people though the entire thing was one item and the notes on the Colosseum page to note that there were only a handful of noted Pokémon among the lists are never available in the final game. ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|<span style="color:teal">Frozen</span>]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|<span style="color:green">Fennec</span>]]'' 19:37, 30 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Pardon me. I didn't think that the space was necessary and the Colosseum edit could've been done a bit better. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 20:12, 30 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Ah, let me know how it could be done better so I can improve on it then; thank you. :) ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|<span style="color:teal">Frozen</span>]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|<span style="color:green">Fennec</span>]]'' 20:20, 30 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== wat ==<br />
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why are you removing my links --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 11:03, 31 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:They were repeat links. Also, don't forget to use the {{template|pkmn}} and {{template|pkmn2}} templates to make links simpler to add. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 13:05, 31 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::gee, maybe it wouldve been nice to say that in the change instead of having me come and ask. hmmmmmmmmmmmmm. and those links were the first in those sections; they were repeated, but in an above section. it should be fine to repeat them --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 13:21, 31 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::1) You're being unnecessarily rude. 2) Okay, valid point, but I'm still not sure. 3) I'm really not in the mood of arguing with you again. Please ask someone higher up, like Force Fire or Chosen. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 13:24, 31 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Facade ==<br />
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I checked the RAWs, and Viz's translation is correct. It was Facade. I want to move the file, but which is the Electrike's nickname in the Viz version? The image currently says "Rikey", but it says "Rikelec" on the template itself. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 17:47, 1 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:It's the latter. I added it to the template only a few hours ago. And while you're at it, could you also move the other move pictures from the same page? I also changed their names in the templates to match the ones in the Viz translation. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 18:18, 1 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Recent edit ==<br />
You've been told by an admin that you shouldn't undo an edit just because YOU think it includes bad grammar. https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Spiritomb_(Pok%C3%A9mon)&diff=prev&oldid=2868512 That's not constructive. [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]]) 15:33, 13 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Sorry. It's just a fact that said edit legitimately contained grammatical errors. I also personally saw that the sentence structure could've been better. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 16:46, 13 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Detective Pikachu Cameos ==<br />
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Why did you remove the cameo Pokemon from the Detective Pikachu film page? They do appear in the film and I did specifically list them as being a cameo. So, why did you remove them? Thanks. '''Ice''' [[User talk:The IceCream|Cream]] 16:28, 14 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Because they weren't even actually featured. For example, Articuno and Steelix were only mentioned on a poster. That does not count as an appearance. Not even as a cameo. And same goes for other Pokémon pictures as well. Bulbapedia only counts direct appearances. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 19:21, 14 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Well, they make an appearance somewhere in the trailer even if it's so small. Shouldn't that count for something? '''Ice''' [[User talk:The IceCream|Cream]] 21:57, 14 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::I just told you: indirect appearances don't count. Especially ones that are only mentioned. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 08:55, 15 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::How does appearing on a poster not count as a cameo? I am just curious to why you think this. '''Ice''' [[User talk:The IceCream|Cream]] 15:51, 15 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::Even if it DOES count as a cameo, it still doesn't count as a proper appearance. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 16:33, 15 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::That's why I listed it as a cameo and not a proper appearance. '''Ice''' [[User talk:The IceCream|Cream]] 19:04, 15 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::I said: Bulbapedia doesn't count those. Period. As in, they do not belong to the characters section. At all. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 19:58, 15 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== [[Trophy Garden]] edit war ==<br />
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Hi there. You removed my edits, despite me requesting a discussion before doing so, and me having started a talk page discussion about this topic. I am happy to talk about this if you will stop reverting without discussion, but due to the edit warring, I will also be calling in an administrator. --[[User:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] [[User talk:Poppy Appletree|:3]] 13:03, 20 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Your links and references needed fixing, which I've done now. There's no need for an admin. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 13:09, 20 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:: Thanks for the fixes! I haven't been an active wiki contributor in several years now, and I'm a bit rusty. I would have appreciated if you'd have just talked to me, though I circled [[user:Blazingfist]] in for oversight. --[[User:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] [[User talk:Poppy Appletree|:3]] 13:13, 20 November 2018 (UTC)</div>
Poppy Appletree
https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Blazingfist&diff=2883517
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== The Preview Button ==<br />
Instead of editing a page several times in a row, try using the preview button to make sure your edit looks the way you want it to. It's right next to the Save Changes button... Please try it out, so as not to clog up the Recent Changes. Thanks! --<sup>[[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup>[[User:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">Jo the Marten</span>]]<sup>[[Flygon (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup> [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">ಠ_ಠ</span>]][[Cilan (anime)|<span style="color:#90C870;">♥</span>]] 10:16, 24 May 2012 (UTC)<br />
::You are absolutely right and most of the time I do use it, but sometimes I am just to hasty or in a rush. I need to take it easy sometimes lol. Sorry for that, I will be more careful from now on. [[User:Blazingfist|¡¡¡Blazingfist!!!]] 10:19, 24 May 2012 (UTC)<br />
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== Team Plasma article ==<br />
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I understand your reasoning, but I think it clear enough that the episodes discussed are unaired. Take this sentence, for example, "Team Plasma '''were initially''' set to debut...but the episodes '''were postponed indefinitely'''...". The rest of the "Behind the scenes" section also clearly and explicitly states that the episodes are unaired. In addition, clicking those links takes you to the articles for the unaired episodes. I don't think there's any confusion over whether it's talking about the aired or unaired episodes. [[User:Pokegen master|Pokegen master]] ([[User talk:Pokegen master|talk]]) 14:53, 1 March 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Ah well, I see you haven't undone it yet. Do as you like, however. I thought it might be a bit confusing, but if you think it isn't, go ahead an change it. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 15:27, 1 March 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::Ok. I didn't want to start an edit war, so I just came here. [[User:Pokegen master|Pokegen master]] ([[User talk:Pokegen master|talk]]) 18:54, 1 March 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Psst... ==<br />
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Rescue Team uses [[User:1ted59/template:User Pokémon Red and Blue R.T|this]]... <nowiki>{{User:1ted59/template:User Pokémon Red and Blue R.T}}<br />
</nowiki> [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] ([[User talk:Marked +-+-+|talk]]) 18:03, 30 March 2013 (UTC)<br />
:I had absolutely no idea what you were talking about until I took a peek at your usertags. Thanks for noticing. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 22:05, 30 March 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Vertress Conference ==<br />
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Where did you get six from? Also, the edit summary you put, I found it to be rude. [[User:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Patty</span>]][[User talk:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Man</span>]] 19:40, 20 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Sorry, I wasn't trying to be rude, I hate being or coming off as rude, but it seemed kind of obvious to me. Especially if you checked here: http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_episodes#Black_.26_White:_Adventures_in_Unova (scroll down, starting from ''[[BW103|Curtain Up, Unova League!]]'', then ''[[BW104|Mission: Defeat Your Rival!]]'', ''[[BW105|Lost at the League!]]'', ''[[BW106|Strong Strategy Steals the Show!]]'', ''[[BW107|Cameron's Secret Weapon!]]'', and lastly ''[[BW108|A Unova League Evolution!]]'', six episodes in total, which does in fact make it the shortest league. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ [[User:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Blazing</span>]]</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 19:45, 20 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
::I must have counted ''[[BW102|Team Eevee and the Pokémon Rescue Squad!]]'' by mistake. Anyway, I got seven since someone else who made the edit back then mentioned that ''Lost at the League!'' didn't count as a league episode. At least you told me that you weren't being rude (how i respond to it). By the way, thank you for fixing those new pages that I created of the missing characters of the day. [[User:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Patty</span>]][[User talk:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Man</span>]] 19:55, 20 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::Don't worry about it, those are just small mistakes that happen. I'll try being more polite the next time something like this happens. And that thing with those characters, don't mention it. I like doing that kind of editing stuff, I like creating missing character/location pages myself too and it is nice to see you found some characters that still needed a page <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ [[User:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Blazing</span>]]</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 19:59, 20 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Personality and characteristics ==<br />
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What was wroung my personalty and charactics on jessie frellish I did In 12years old I'm so confuse I watch this show in japAnses as well. I thought it was right and I wrought down on a paper about why did you take it off I'm not stupid I'm not that what i thought about her please tell me please I be you email catlovewillams@aol.com please unless can you fix it or can I send you my thing then you said you like i put it on [[User:Catlove|Catlove]] ([[User talk:Catlove|talk]]) 19:15, 6 May 2013 (UTC)catlove[[User:Catlove|Catlove]] ([[User talk:Catlove|talk]]) 19:15, 6 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
:It's nothing personal, or anything, it is because the grammar and spelling you used was very bad and almost unreadable. I perfectly understand English may not be your native language (guess what, English isn't my native language either) but remember, this IS an English encyclopedia, so at least basic level skills of the English language are wanted here. Also, you wrote some Pokémon names wrong. Try to improve your English a bit and read this: the {{bp|Manual of Style}}, it contains useful information about writing things here at Bulbapedia. Hope this clears things up. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ [[User:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Blazing</span>]]</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 19:27, 6 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Who's That Pokemon? BW115 engdub ==<br />
I just want to know is Watchog featured in english version of Who's That Pokemon BW115 o not?<br />
Pikachu65 13:25, 1 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
:I have no idea actually. I haven't seen the episode, I only know it aired because a review topic of the episode was opened on the forums. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ [[User:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Blazing</span>]]</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 13:27, 1 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
Maybe it was Watchog after all. Oh well. Just wait until tomorrow. Pikachu65 13:31, 1 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
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And besides, Watchog has been scanned second time. In episode BW115. Pikachu65 11:48, 2 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Charizard ==<br />
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Hey I didnt say anything about the fact that they cant. The section I was pointed to said nothing but that. I was pointing it out. But if the dub says so then it is confirmed. I get saying it once or twice in an episode could be a mistake but if the official website states it, then it is confirmed. The Pokemon company here works close with the one in Japan, So I doubt that they would just make stuff up. All of the signs point to him as a male, he even looks male, unlike Charla, So I would say that it is in fact confirmed [[User:Black60Dragon|<font color="black">'''Black'''</font><font color="red">'''Dragon'''</font>]] 00:21, 9 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
:I'm going to reply here, to keep it in one place. It seemed like you said they can't, as you didn't make it sound like a quote. But anyway, that's not important. If the characters in the dub say so, it is not confirmed, as the dub is just a derivation of the original Japanese series. The original Japanese series is ultimate canon, as the series is made in Japan. So, if they don't refer to Ash's Charizard as male in the original Japanese episodes (which they don't), but they do in the dub, then it's not canon. And where does the official website state it? Could you provide a source? Lastly, "he even looks male, unlike Charla" isn't confirmation, just an opinion. Someone else could see that differently. As it is a policy, written in big red letters on the talk page of the article, it is better to leave it alone. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ [[User:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Blazing</span>]]</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 00:27, 9 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
::There is the Purrloin incident when Meowth traveled with the group. [[User:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Patty</span>]][[User talk:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Man</span>]] 00:33, 9 June 2013 (UTC)~<br />
::: ^ Which does indeed confirm that Pokémon of the same sex could fall in love which each other. For all we know Charizard ''is'' female. Now ''that'' would be a stunning revelation, if they decided to make that ultimate canon. But we don't know yet. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ [[User:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Blazing</span>]]</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 00:39, 9 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
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Still even if Japan is the ultimate cannon version, the American Pokemon company is just as reliable. Yeah the looking part is an opinion, I was just saying that. I mean Charla is a girl and looks like it. I dont see Ash putting Bows in Charizards hair, just saying. But honestly if the Dub says it it should be confirmed, as like I said, They work close together now. Sometimes you have to just take the clues and what the dub says and put it together. Every sign says he is just read them. But if I remember correctly the Meowth moment, he thought that Purrloin was a girl right? Which doesnt say much as he took it back. If that is the right moment. [[User:Black60Dragon|<font color="black">'''Black'''</font><font color="red">'''Dragon'''</font>]] 03:21, 9 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
:There's a note next the "Unknown" stating that it is male in the dub (hover over the asterisk to see it). But that doesn't mean it is a male in the Japanese version.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#025DA6">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#5A96C5">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EA1A3E">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#F16A81">ire</span>]] 04:35, 9 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Indeed, that note should be enough. It is referred to as male in the dub version, okay, but not in the original version. The Japanese language does not have gender pronouns. Which mean they can't refer to Charizard as male or female in the original version. Which means it could only be revealed by other means. Conclusion: we don't know if it is male or female in the original version right now, we do know it is male in the dub. The original version is the most important and should be noted first, and this is exactly how it is stated now in its infobox on its page. I don't see a problem. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ [[User:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Blazing</span>]]</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 11:45, 9 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Watari Island ==<br />
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Is that the same as Migration Island as the Pocket Monsters summary states? http://www.pocketmonsters.net/episodes/1498#Comments [[User:AeroWind|AeroWind]] ([[User talk:AeroWind|talk]]) 12:42, 13 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Yes, that's supposed to be the one. I keep regular track of summaries of episodes, and I believe it was called Watari Island at first and later mostly referred to as Migration Island. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ [[User:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Blazing</span>]]</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 12:48, 13 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Oh alright good to know. Thanks. [[User:AeroWind|AeroWind]] ([[User talk:AeroWind|talk]]) 12:49, 13 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Concerning the trivia in BW119 ==<br />
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It was the first time the first time the Genesect Army was shown in the anime, albeit only in a flashback, so I would think it would count as notable Trivia [[User:Weavilewarrior|Weavile Warrior]] ([[User talk:Weavilewarrior|talk]]) 23:47, 15 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Yes, but the main point you made was Genesect individually appearing for the second time in the anime. 1: The first time was a silhoutte, which is not counted as an appearance, 2: Something is not trivia worthy when its the second time, in this case Genesect appearing for the second time. <br />
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:Which brings me to the trivia about the Genesect Army, I'm not sure about that actually. But I'd still keep it as unnotable, as the Genesect Army, with a link to the corresponding page, is already listed under "Debut" on the BW119 page, that should be enough. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 23:52, 15 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:Okay, I'll fix the page --[[User:Weavilewarrior|Weavile Warrior]] ([[User talk:Weavilewarrior|talk]]) 23:58, 15 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== BW123 ==<br />
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I contacted {{u|Crystal Talian}} about the title, she said to wait until either a title card of the episode on TV, a DVD title card, or the official site posted the title of the episode before changing it. [[User_talk:Crystal_Talian#Cartoon_Network|Link to discussion]]. — [[User:Reshi643|<span style="color:#7038F8">Reshi</span>]][[User talk:Reshi643|<span style="color:#F08030">643</span>]] 04:14, 16 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Yes, I saw it just now, good you asked a staff member about this. While Cartoon Network is an official source when it comes to the Pokémon anime, they've also made terrible mistakes with dub names in the past, so they are not reliable for the full 100%. It think's it's indeed best the way it's done now. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 11:47, 16 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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Hi! Blazingfist, I tell you, I saw the title of the BW123 in www.cartoonnetwork.com in the program schedule last Sunday, and appeared well: Farewell, Unova! Setting Sail for New Adventures! . And if you now get to see the program schedule on Saturday will find the title as you point it out myself, nice talking to you! and no problem with writing in my page discussion :D bye! --[[User:1998gmo|1998gmo]] ([[User talk:1998gmo|talk]]) 18:55, 16 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Nice talking to you too :D Anyway, for now the page title has been changed back, I hope you understand, as it is not confirmed 100%. Also [http://www.locatetv.com/listings/cartoon-network#27-Jul-2013 this schedule] lists the title as just ''Farewell, Unova!'' (they misspell Unova as "Unvoa" though). Very weird, only time will tell what the real title is. But thanks for your input and research of course! <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 20:40, 16 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Harley's Cacturne ==<br />
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If Alexa's Helioptile and Gogoat don't count as Pokémon seen on Minori Island, what about Harley's Cacturne on Izabe Island since it made recurring appearances in other places? [[User:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Patty</span>]][[User talk:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Man</span>]] 16:12, 4 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
:I don't know about that, that should probably be removed too then. I always figured the "Seen on" section was for Pokémon that seem native on the island or owned by CotDs on the island. Anyway, if Gogoat and Helioptile are counted, should Pikachu, Axew and others not be included too to the "Seen on" section then. Just doesn't make much sense if you ask me. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 16:38, 4 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
::I usually count the debuts of the non-CotDs as Pokémon seen on the island. However, seeing your point, it would be best to remove them all. [[User:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Patty</span>]][[User talk:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Man</span>]] 18:03, 4 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Userspace policy ==<br />
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Please note that the {{bp|Userspace policy#Other users' pages|states}} ''Userpages are personal pages, and are not to be edited by other users unless prior permisson has been given. Instances in which this is permitted include, but are not limited to, broken links that appear on the wanted pages, duplicate images on the Archives, uncategorizing a userpage categorized in a category it should clearly not be in, reverting vandalism, etc.'' You violated that policy when you took it upon yourself to make [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User:Black60Dragon&curid=179308&diff=1951916&oldid=1951914&rcid=2087811 this edit]. You should have notified a staff member and let them take care of it, not try to correct them by removing the content yourself. Please keep this in mind during the future. Thank you. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">--Pokemaster</span>]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">97</span>]]''''' 02:28, 13 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Oh, I am very sorry. That was not my intention of course. I thought someone had forgotten to remove that, as that user didn't create that page, even admitted that him/herself. But I shouldn't have done that. Won't happen again. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 09:51, 13 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Sorting in categories ==<br />
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Personally, I prefer to use <code><nowiki>{{DEFAULTSORT:Juniper, Cedric}}</nowiki></code> over putting the same text in each individual category. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 17:00, 18 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
:And by that you mean? I'm sorry, a lot of anime character pages miss that Anime characters category, but if there's a better way than how I'm doing it right now, I'd like to hear it of course. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 17:03, 18 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Sorry, I was a bit vague there. For example, rather than putting "Davis, Alex" in all the category links like [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Alex_Davis&diff=next&oldid=1862452 this], I think it's a better idea to use DEFAULTSORT like [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Alex_Davis&diff=next&oldid=1954983 this]. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 17:06, 18 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::Ah ok, I get what you mean now. I did the former thing because that's how it was already on a lot of these pages, but I'll use the method you recommend then instead. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 17:08, 18 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== My Explanation ==<br />
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Hello, i'm PokeSerbia. I'm from the Serbia. I wanted that i'm not good at english lanaguage because i'm not native from the US/UK/Canada and i'm from serbia as my users suggest. I do wanted to improve my grammar, but i still had yet to do. I'm sorry for what i'm doing it for reason. I wanted to fix the plot but some of my bad grammar i'm you and others reverting because of my ignorance of Bulbapedia system.<br />
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For what i would, i wanted to add that the Panchau's species was originally Naughthy Pokemon but some users made share species and i wanted to add origin spescies was Naugthy Pokemon.<br />
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I'm very very very very very very sorry for my bad gramaar for i'm not native. {{unsigned|PokeSerbia}}<br />
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== Re: Uploading Pictures ==<br />
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In response to your message, as I explained before, I did in fact check the Archives for any answers I could find, but yet, none I found. Is there any other possible way to upload pictures? Whenever I do, it says:<br />
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"You do not have permission to create new pages."<br />
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Even though I actually do have permission to create pages, even though I don't want to create a page in this case in the first place, that's what I get whenever I want to add a picture :/ {{unsigned|MatrVincent}}<br />
:It's probably because you're not Autoconfirmed. As it says in the Archives FAQ under "How do I upload?", you need to have made a certain amount of edits on already existing files. Getting to edit your userspace on Bulbapedia works the same way as you may have noticed you weren't able to create your own userpage right away. The exact number of edits to be made to become Autoconfirmed is actually a secret. As I'm not active on the Archives myself I suggest sending a message to an Archives admin asking what you can help with or what files you could edit. <br />
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:Oh and it's important to sign your messages. This is done with typing four of these: ~ Happy editing! <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 03:08, 21 March 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Meyer/Blaziken Mask ==<br />
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Just an FYI in case you're not watching it. I've responded to your post [[Talk:Meyer#Merge with Blaziken Mask|here]]. Curious on your thoughts here. Granted, this might have already been discussed on the forum, which to me would be bad since it's a Wiki-related thing. Has this been discussed somewhere on-Wiki? [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 03:21, 22 March 2014 (UTC)<br />
:Thanks for letting me know. As far as I know this hasn't been discussed elsewhere. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 09:33, 22 March 2014 (UTC)<br />
::Ah, I see. Well, [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Bulbapedia_talk:Editor%27s_Hub#Blaziken_Mask.2FMeyer I started one]. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 15:32, 22 March 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Congratulations! ==<br />
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Congratulations! You finally became a Junior Administrator, keep it up on your hard work! Good luck! --[[User:Cinday123|<span style="color:pink">Cinday123</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:Cinday123|<span style="color:lightblue">Talk</span>]])''</small> 06:14, 24 March 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Discussion of Fennekin's Psyshock ==<br />
Where is this discussion going on cuz I can't find it. And, really, what other move could it be besides "Psyshock"? No other move fits the description, and we can't just wait until Serena uses Fennekin in battle because god knows how long will it take..--[[User:Omojuzeforever|Omojuzeforever]] ([[User talk:Omojuzeforever|talk]]) 16:35, 27 March 2014 (UTC)<br />
:The discussion is not taking place here on Bulbapedia. I've talked it over with G50 who is a Senior Administrator and we've both come to the conclusion that it's wise to leave it unconfirmed for now. I'm sorry, but if we went by everything that isn't called out directly we would be making a lot of assumptions and Bulbapedia wouldn't be a very trustworthy place. Maybe the higher staff will still decide to consider it confirmed as being Psyshock, but if not, we'll just have to wait to a future instance where the move is directly commanded by Serena, unfortunately. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 16:42, 27 March 2014 (UTC)<br />
::Ok, got it.. Fair enough, just saying that its pretty clear that the move was Psyshock, but I guess we can wait.--[[User:Omojuzeforever|Omojuzeforever]] ([[User talk:Omojuzeforever|talk]]) 16:51, 27 March 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Good News ==<br />
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Refer to the Meyer/Blaziken Mask discussion above.<br />
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We're good for a merge. Just chatted with [[User:Force Fire]] over on his talk page about it and he confirms we're clear now to go ahead and merge it. Before doing so, I wanted to see some of your opinions on going about the merge. I'm headed to bed right now and don't think I'd be able to do a complete job in my present state of mind, but I will be looking at it in the morning while I'm stationed at home for a while before I take off for the afternoon and already have some ideas for it.<br />
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If I don't see you respond by morning (which is fine, maybe you're in bed too), I'll go ahead and put my ideas into practice and you can still contribute after the fact. I merely wanted to ask your thoughts now, while I'm asleep, before going ahead, and would take that into consideration. =) [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 05:16, 28 March 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Siebold's Mega Blastoise's Ability ==<br />
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Could you clarify [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Siebold&diff=2102675&oldid=2102674 this]? I didn't quite get your summary. --'''<span style="text-shadow:grey 0.1em 0.1em 0.1em; font-size:110%">[[User:Det|<span style="color:gold">D</span><span style="color:orange">e</span><span style="color:red">t</span>]][[User talk:Det|<sup><font color="white">talk</font></sup>]]</span>''' 14:21, 14 April 2014 (UTC)<br />
:Yes I can. Even if it's obvious a Pokémon has a certain Ability because it's the only one it has (like with Mega Blastoise), we still notice it. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 14:24, 14 April 2014 (UTC)<br />
::Have it your way. --'''<span style="text-shadow:grey 0.1em 0.1em 0.1em; font-size:110%">[[User:Det|<span style="color:gold">D</span><span style="color:orange">e</span><span style="color:red">t</span>]][[User talk:Det|<sup><font color="white">talk</font></sup>]]</span>''' 14:26, 14 April 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== I think we collectively broke a talk page ==<br />
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[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Favocado&action=history Just step through the diff pages....] [[User:Schiffy|<span style="color:DarkGreen">Schiffy (瀬藤健二)</span>]] ([[User talk:Schiffy|<span style="color:#FF6600">Talk</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|<span style="color:#FF0000">Contribs</span>]]) 20:08, 4/18/2014 (UTC)<br />
:I noticed that. I'm pretty sure that was a result of both clicking the save button, doing the same thing, at the exact same moment. Nothing to worry about I guess, the page itself doesn't seem broken. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 20:12, 18 April 2014 (UTC)<br />
::I suppose it's not... just.... oy vey. [[User:Schiffy|<span style="color:DarkGreen">Schiffy (瀬藤健二)</span>]] ([[User talk:Schiffy|<span style="color:#FF6600">Talk</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|<span style="color:#FF0000">Contribs</span>]]) 20:13, 4/18/2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Officer Jenny and Nurse Joy ==<br />
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I've been reconstructing [[Officer Jenny]]'s and [[Nurse Joy]]'s pages a bit. Could you assist me on completing them as you can do one arc and I could do the other? [[User:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Patty</span>]][[User talk:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Man</span>]] 03:57, 30 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
:Sure, I'll see what I can do. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 09:37, 30 May 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Movie characters category ==<br />
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Hey Blazingfist, I just added the {{cat|Anime characters}} category into the {{template|moviecharacters}} template, so there will be no need to add said category to each individual page. The only issue one might have with this is if we don't consider the movie Pokémon to be under that category; if that's the case, you could revert my edit. Just thought I'd let you know. [[User:Ht14|<span style="color:#FF1111"><sup>'''''ht'''''</sup></span>]][[User talk:Ht14|<span style="color:#11BB11"><small>''14''</small></span>]] 15:58, 12 June 2014 (UTC)<br />
:Thanks for bringing this up, I had no idea to be honest. But I'm checking some pages I haven't done yet and the anime characters category doesn't show up with some. Maybe it takes some time but I'll check later if any pages still need it. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 16:00, 12 June 2014 (UTC)<br />
::Haha, I just put it up once I noticed what you're doing, specifically with the movie characters, so you're right, it will take some time. Just remove the category for the movie characters; sorry for having to make you edit those pages again ^^; As a side note, the default cat thing you removed... it's so weird that it's there in the first place... [[User:Ht14|<span style="color:#FF1111"><sup>'''''ht'''''</sup></span>]][[User talk:Ht14|<span style="color:#11BB11"><small>''14''</small></span>]] 16:03, 12 June 2014 (UTC)<br />
:::I see. Dang, now I'll have to undo everything >.< I'll get to that later. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 16:05, 12 June 2014 (UTC)<br />
::::I mean, I could do it instead if you'd like; it's just that I don't want to interrupt your flow, that's all. [[User:Ht14|<span style="color:#FF1111"><sup>'''''ht'''''</sup></span>]][[User talk:Ht14|<span style="color:#11BB11"><small>''14''</small></span>]] 16:07, 12 June 2014 (UTC)<br />
:::::If you don't mind, that'd be good. I have other things to do soon anyway. But make sure not just to hit the undo button with every page, since I also removed these Defaultsort things on some pages that were definitely not needed. Thanks! <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 16:10, 12 June 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Berry baker kids ==<br />
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I placed the {{template|unknown name}} template of the [[Berry baker kids]] page because they weren't given real names such as Emily, Brad, Alan, and so on. To me, berry baker kids sounds like an occupation they're being referred to. [[User:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Patty</span>]][[User talk:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Man</span>]] 01:39, 30 June 2014 (UTC)<br />
:To me it seems more like the name of their "baking group", rather than an occupation. Anyway, the dubbers decided to use this in place of "Toraya siblings", so it should be treated as the official name. The {template|unknown name}} would imply they have no known name at all, which isn't true, since they were referred to as this in the episode. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 10:02, 1 July 2014 (UTC)<br />
::Ok then. As for the Nurse Joy an Officer Jenny pages I posted above, you can fix the wording and stuff if you find some of it not making sense. [[User:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Patty</span>]][[User talk:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Man</span>]] 01:00, 2 July 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Heroes - Friends and Faux Alike! ==<br />
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Hello, I saw you reverted my edit in [[XY030]] by putting the English name of the previous episode instead of the "XY029" epicode. As I explained in the edit summary, the English name shouldn't be put if its a Japan-only event (in this case, the one-hour special), but rather just the epicode. I'd like to know if there's there any reason to put the English title again, since you might have not been aware of that, or I could be as well wrong. --[[User:Gabo 2oo|Gabo 2oo]] ([[User talk:Gabo 2oo|talk]]) 20:08, 7 July 2014 (UTC)<br />
:My apologies, I didn't check the history so I didn't even notice you had undone anything. Well, [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_anime_specials#Main_series all the other couple of episodes that aired right after each other] do have the dub title even if they aired only together in Japan. I automatically deduced this was the right thing to do for XY029 and XY030 as well. Personally it weirdens me if only the epicode is shown on a page that represents both the original version and the dub, unlike when it's on a page that's original version only like for a Japanese opening or ending. But perhaps you're right, since it ''does'' refer to something that applies to the original version only. Perhaps it's best to ask a higher-up admin about this as I'm not completely sure. In any case, if the latter applies then all the other dub titles on pages of episodes that didn't air together in the English dub should be removed as well. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 20:27, 7 July 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Signature ==<br />
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Well, the current signature is just in part where I only used the "R", referring to the 超龍's signature. [[User:KyleRGiggs|Raymond]] 05:54, 24 July 2014 (UTC)<br />
:Sorry, but your signature doesn't link to your userpage. Please make part of it link to your userpage. (This message has nothing to do with the one above. I thought it would be better if I put it in this section instead of creating a new one with the same name.) [[User talk:Player3.25|Brought to you by]] [[User:Player3.25|player 3.25]] 16:24, 25 July 2014 (UTC)<br />
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==How to make new pages==<br />
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Look,blaze.I'm Sladoled and literally the only reason I've joined bulbapedia is to make an article on Conway's Slowking.Could you clarify to me how to do it? {{unsigned|Sladoled}}<br />
:You can only create pages once you're autoconfirmed. You'll become autoconfirmed once your account has been active for a while and once you've made a certain amount of edits (the exact number is a secret). That being said, Conway's Slowking is not deemed notable enough for its own article. It only had a couple of appearances and didn't show enough personality. In fact, other users have made pages for it before, but they were deleted by the Staff. Still, there are enough other things you can do on Bulbapedia. Check what [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Special:WantedPages Wanted Pages] there are for example. There are also articles that are too short, so-called [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Category:Stubs Stubs]. Then we have [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Category:Articles_needing_improvement articles needing improvement], and [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Category:Articles_needing_more_information articles needing more information] (in the latter, it's usually a short bit of information that's missing). Enjoy your time here and I wish you good luck finding things to edit on Bulbapedia. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 10:19, 1 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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Thanks for the help blaze,and I think that [[p|Slowking]] has shown more personality than pokémon like [[Sakura's Espeon]] and you should really consider letting the article exist.Just for the sake of awesome. {{unsigned|Sladoled}}<br />
:You're welcome. Check [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Bulbapedia:Anime_Pok%C3%A9mon_Notability_policy#Notability_requirements this] to see what requirements a Pokémon needs to get an own page. In the section I linked, especially check point 3. While Slowking may be considered Conway's signature Pokémon, it didn't have any major impact in the episodes it appeared in or in the series as a whole. Sakura's Espeon did, and this is why it does have a page and Conway's Slowking does not. Also, please remember to sign your comments. You do this by leaving four tildes like this: <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. Finally, you linked to Slowking's page like this: <nowiki>[[p|Slowking]]</nowiki>. The correct way is <nowiki>{{p|Slowking}}</nowiki>. In the future, please use the latter when linking to Pokémon. Thanks. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 11:14, 1 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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Thanks, I really appreciate the help. I promise to help out a lot. [[User:Sladoled|Sladoled]] ([[User talk:Sladoled|talk]]) 20:24, 1 August 2014 (UTC)Sladoled<br />
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== Elite Four Members and Champions ==<br />
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Hey Blazingfist,<br />
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I'm not trying to be rude, but I've got a question. On the Elite Four page, it lists that Ash has met Lance. I edited it awhile back, adding that Ash has met Diantha. Lance is listed as a Champion on the aforementioned page, so why doesn't it count that Ash met Diantha in ''[[XY028|The Bonds of Evolution!]]''? {{unsigned|WATERWARRIOR67}}<br />
:It's because that page lists Lance as Elite Four. I know it's a bit confusing, but back in Gen I Lance was of course still Elite Four. That page counts Lance as being part of the Gen I Elite Four too (even though he was referred to as a Champion in the episodes he appeared in). Also a reminder, please sign your comments. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 10:05, 5 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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Okay, thanks for the clarification and reminder! [[User:WATERWARRIOR67|WATERWARRIOR67]] ([[User talk:WATERWARRIOR67|talk]]) 13:36, 5 August 2014 (UTC)WATERWARRIOR67<br />
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== Trivia ==<br />
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On the Rota page, I was guessing. I wasn't really awake when I typed it. I meant to type that it shares its name with the island of Rota, considering it's a real place. I don't know how I keep screwing the simple things up. [[User:WATERWARRIOR67|WATERWARRIOR67]] ([[User talk:WATERWARRIOR67|talk]]) 17:10, 9 August 2014 (UTC)WATERWARRIOR67<br />
:I undid your edit there because I really doubt that's where they got the name Rota from. It sharing the name of a real-life island can also be a coincidence. If the real-life Rota were a medieval-themed town with a castle, yes then it would've been very likely to be the name origin. Since it's a tropical island instead, I really doubt it. Be aware that a lot of the trivia you've added over the past few weeks has been removed, for the simple reason these bits of trivia were not notable enough, or too unfounded. Before you add trivia, always ask yourself if it's notable enough or if the trivia is actually true or based on loose thoughts instead. If you're really not sure, you can always propose the trivia on the talk page of the page you want to add the trivia to, so others can decide if it is indeed notable enough. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 17:22, 9 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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One, I wish that were the case with Rota; I'm really into history and cultural stuff like that. Two, what do you mean by too unfounded. And three, by "others", who do you mean? {{unsigned|WATERWARRIOR67}}<br />
:With unfounded I mean that a lot of the trivia you've come up with so far has been very doubtful. Like characters being named after singers or bands, or a medieval town like Rota being named after a real-life tropical island. A lot of them seemed to be based on loose thoughts rather than factual information or likeliness. It's best to only add trivia if it's completely factual or at least very likely. Other trivia you added simply wasn't notable enough. That's why I said you could bring your trivia additions up on talk pages before you add them, just to be sure it's noteworthy, or plausible. With others I simply mean other users. And you've been told before, but please sign your comments. Thanks. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 23:57, 9 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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==Misty==<br />
Might want to check out the last few edits to [[Misty]] by {{u|Spluff5}}. A number of team alterations that don't look immediately wrong, but seeing as their first edit to the page was replacing one set with information from a fake game (which they then reverted), I'm incredulous. <small>[[User:Glik|glik]]</small><sup>[[User talk:Glik|glak]]</sup> 20:38, 19 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
:I had my doubts too, but the thing they did with changing Corsola into Quagsire is actually correct; Misty ''does'' have a Quagsire, and not a Corsola in her HGSS rematch team. I'm still not sure about the other info they added such as the moves and items, but I'll check if that is correct or not. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 20:48, 19 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Dub titles ==<br />
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How come XY036's title was dub title was deleted it was from a legible source:<br />
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http://www.tvinfo.de/fernsehprogramm/245310938-pokemon-die-tv-serie-xy<br />
And no air dates were provided.{{unsigned|Pichu911}}<br />
:Because Adyniz, who is a Bureaucrat here and watches over the dub title reveals, has said we have to consider these two unconfirmed for now. Bulbapedia is unfamiliar with this source. What if we add all those titles now and they don't turn out to be true? That would be a mess, and this has happened before (I speak out of experience). The official CN schedule with the titles for the month of September should come within 10 days, so let's just wait for that and then we'll see if they turn out to be true. And please sign your comments. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 09:52, 22 August 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Tricks to bypass the CDN cache ==<br />
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Please do not use the "trick" of changing the image size by one pixel to force the CDN to change the image. Images will update when they update, and should not be forced wiki-side. - [[User:Kogoro|'''<span class="sc" style="color:#DA70D6;">Kogoro</span>''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''<span class="sc" style="color:#FFB6C1;">Talk to me</span>''']] - 22:53, 6 September 2014 (UTC)<br />
:My apologies, I did go overboard with this. It won't happen again. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 22:56, 6 September 2014 (UTC)<br />
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== Clemontic Gear ==<br />
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Hello, you commented on the picture for the Motivation Machine that it would be better to wait until a confirmation of the names before uploading, so it wouldn't be necessary to move it later. I suggest that, instead of that, we could just name them "Clemontic Gear XYxxx" temporarily, but instead of moving it to a translation of its Japanese name, we could wait until the dub version to air and ''then'' move it to its English name. I believe this could save work and time, all while we could still list the Japanese names and translation on the article itself.<br />
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Also, is there any specific requirements for userspace articles to be moved to the main space? Because your page is pretty good and I'm worried if its moving stretches out too long. I mean, there are articles like [[User:HoennMaster/N's Hideout|N's Hideout]] that still haven't been moved to mainspace, even if by now, the information is not as required as it would have been back in the day when it first appeared. I wouldn't want that to happen to the Clemontic Gear page, specially since I haven't really seen any discussion about articles that should be moved to mainspace.<br />
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By the way, I have a doubt about [[a:File:OPJ17 2.png|the ''Mega Volt'' opening header picture]]. As you can see by its history, I had a little edit war with Ataro (yes, I'm sorry about that, it wasn't called for), since he said that due to the title of the opening, we should use a picture that has something "Mega" on it, instead of the screenshot I considered better. The thing is, leaving that aside, said "Mega" header picture isn't used anymore in the opening sequence, as it was replaced along with other scenes. Is it okay if the head picture for the opening is from a scene that isn't used on it? I ask because we could use that picture in our usual "Variant" section instead, and I asked Ataro about this on his talk page, but he didn't seem to answer me. --[[User:Gabo 2oo|Gabo 2oo]] ([[User talk:Gabo 2oo|talk]]) 23:42, 15 October 2014 (UTC)<br />
:I think that might be a better idea indeed, as you're right having to move from Japanese to dub is also kinda unnecessary moving. Fine with me.<br />
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:I don't know the specific requirements for it to be moved to the mainspace. I think in most cases, or at least the most important ones, the Editorial Board has the final say. But sometimes it might also be any higher-up admins who make the decision. I'd also see it moved rather soon, I'll bring it up on the talk page.<br />
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:I'm not sure if I should participate in this discussion, also because I'm only a Junior Admin on Bulbapedia, not on the Archives, so I have little to say there. My advice is to still bring it up with Ataro, and if he doesn't respond maybe send him a reminder. And otherwise you should bring it up with Kogoro. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 10:07, 16 October 2014 (UTC)<br />
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==A Question on Creating Pages==<br />
Hi, I'm new (It took me a while to find the edit button...) and I just have a quick question. How long after creating an account must you wait until you are allowed to create a page? I'm itching to create one that (surprisingly) doesn't even exist yet! Thanks, hjk321 14:22, 16 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
:Hello hjk321. First off, welcome to Bulbapedia. If you have problems finding things out around here, I'd suggest having a look at the [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Bulbapedia:FAQ FAQ]. But asking another user is always a good idea too of course. To answer your question: you need to make a certain number of edits, and your account must have been registered for a certain while. For both requirements I don't know the exact numbers, as this is a secret known by only a few. I'd suggest just to start editing. The numbers to meet those requirements shouldn't be too high. Just edit away and eventually you'll become autoconfirmed, which means you'll be allowed to create pages, among other things. To give some ideas as to what you could edit, I'd suggest checking out the [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Bulbapedia:Editor%27s_Hub Editor's Hub]. Also check out the [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Bulbapedia:Manual_of_style Manual of Style]. The latter is a good guide on general editing. If you have an idea for a page, it's always a good idea to create it in your userspace first. If it is deemed complete and Bulbapedia-worthy, it can be mainspaced. But, to create your userspace you need to become autoconfirmed as well. If you have any further questions, don't hesitate to ask them to me, or any other staff member. I'd be happy to answer. Have a good time around here, and happy editing! <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 17:04, 16 February 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Luxio's English dub VA Help ==<br />
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Do you know who voiced Clemont's Luxio in the English version? I thought it was Sarah but ForceFire said it's not. Could you help find out who it is? I'm didn't get any luck finding who it is. --JasonL 14:01, 7 March 2015 (UTC) [[User:JasonL|JasonL]] ([[User talk:JasonL|Talk]])<br />
:I'm sorry, I have no idea. I'm not the right person to ask about voice actors. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 14:14, 7 March 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Crunch typo ==<br />
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Your Salamence appears to have a typo with the move {{tt|Crunch|spelled as Crucnh}}. I would have done it but seeing that you are active on the 'pedia, I'm leaving it to you. [[User:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Patty</span>]][[User talk:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Man</span>]] 23:40, 11 March 2015 (UTC)<br />
:Whoops, thanks! I did preview, but I must have overseen it. I'll fix it right away. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 23:57, 11 March 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Watt's move ==<br />
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I was informed by SnorlaxMonster before that we shouldn't be moving pages if a character's dubname is the same as a later character's Japanese name since the dub name of said later character may be different and moving them back would be a lot to handle. The move of Hoenn's Watt is an example as it was moved too early. I went ahead and added a move tag to Hoenn's Watt. [[User:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Patty</span>]][[User talk:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Man</span>]] 15:59, 14 March 2015 (UTC)<br />
:Oh, I was never aware of that rule. Then it should be moved back I guess. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 16:01, 14 March 2015 (UTC)<br />
::Indeed, I too wasn't aware about it at first. These things happen, nothing personal. :) [[User:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Patty</span>]][[User talk:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Man</span>]] 16:10, 14 March 2015 (UTC)<br />
:::I was going to bring this up, but looks like you already know. It's not really a formal rule, it's just something I've suggested before and got other staff to support (including Kenji-girl). It's probably a good idea to get to this written down properly somewhere (like [[Bulbapedia:Manual of style/Anime]]). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 16:20, 14 March 2015 (UTC)<br />
::::Thanks, I'll certainly keep it in mind for the future. Bringing it up in the MoS would be a good idea if you ask me, as while it is rather logical when you think about it, I think this is something other users might also easily overlook. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 16:23, 14 March 2015 (UTC)<br />
:::::Oh, and also, there's not much point moving it back now. The idea is that moving it then necessitates moving it back later if the dub name differs (like it often does). Since you've already moved it, moving it back would defeat the point (esp. if the name ends up the same in English). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 16:25, 14 March 2015 (UTC)<br />
::::::Figures. Might the dub name change anyway, I'll gladly help undo the Hoenn Watt's links. Luckily enough Watt was the only one called by name directly in the episode, so we won't have to wait a long time to obtain the dub name through some other source. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 16:29, 14 March 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Template:User sv ==<br />
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Hi I have noticed that the Template:User sv is grammatically incorrect or wrong word use or a bad litteral translation. I have posted a list on the [[Template talk:User sv|talk page]] about how I would like them to be please change them. Thank you --[[User:Raltseye|Raltseye]] ([[User talk:Raltseye|talk]]) 13:12, 27 April 2015 (UTC)<br />
:Done. Please check if I did everything right, since I don't speak Swedish myself. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 15:14, 27 April 2015 (UTC)<br />
::Thank you but not quite right yet, can you remove the av svenska in the end of them and place the svenska on the first one?: <br> Den här användaren talar '''[[:Category:User sv|svenska]]''' som '''[[:Category:User sv-N|modersmål]]''' <br> Den här användaren talar '''[[:Category:User sv-4|flytande]]''' '''[[:Category:User sv|svenska]]''' <br> Den här användaren talar '''[[:Category:User sv|svenska]]''' på en '''[[:Category:User sv-3|avancerad]]''' nivå <br> Den här användaren talar '''[[:Category:User sv|svenska]]''' på en '''[[:Category:User sv-2|ganska bra]]''' nivå <br> Den här användaren talar '''[[:Category:User sv|svenska]]''' på en '''[[:Category:User sv-1|grundläggande]]''' nivå <br> --[[User:Raltseye|Raltseye]] ([[User talk:Raltseye|talk]]) 07:43, 28 April 2015 (UTC)<br />
:::Changed it accordingly, I hope everything is alright now. Please check once more and let me know if it is or not. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 11:09, 28 April 2015 (UTC)<br />
::::Yes Thank you alot they look in order now Thank you once again I have checked them all they look good. --[[User:Raltseye|Raltseye]] ([[User talk:Raltseye|talk]]) 11:51, 28 April 2015 (UTC)<br />
:::::No problem, glad I could help out. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 11:55, 28 April 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Genders, standard procedure ==<br />
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I'm wondering about this standard procedure [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Kalos_Route_14&curid=184625&diff=2277105&oldid=2277101 you mentioned]. Is this a de facto or de "jure" (written somewhere, I mean) standard procedure? And is it specifically a standard for lists of Pokemon that appear in an area? (To my knowledge, this area listing of Pokemon is a new development, so it's a bit weird for me to think it has a "standard procedure".) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 18:22, 30 April 2015 (UTC)<br />
:It's an unwritten procedure as far as I know. With standard procedure I mean that it has always applied to pages of locations. Take [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Milos_Island this one] for example. Or [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Cremini_Town this one]. I have never questioned this way of doing things, as to me it's kind of logical. If there is a known gender, it should be added. And if the source for the gender is the fact that in the games the Pokémon can only have one gender, why should we deny that? Unless it's stated otherwise (which, to my knowledge, has never happened). <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 18:32, 30 April 2015 (UTC)<br />
::Oh. I've never really paid much attention to anime-exclusive locations, so I didn't know these lists were there. Looking at those, I realize it's actually not a big problem for me with something like Jynx, because I easily know Jynx are female, but Florges is one whose gender-lock I haven't likewise assimilated.<br />
::For me, if some Pokemon are indeed only one gender, then it's not like if you don't use a gender sign it suddenly means they ''can'' be either gender; logically they would be the only gender they can. And comparing such anime lists to the game lists of Pokemon, [[Kalos Route 4#Pokémon|Flabebe's]] and [[Cerulean City#Generation I|Jynx's]] genders aren't qualified there. And like I mentioned in my original edit summary, it can seem misleading. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 19:07, 30 April 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Uploading pictures ==<br />
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Hi, I would like to upload pictures especially for [[Team Rocket's mechas]] and [[Boss fantasy]] pages. Could you please tell me from which site do you upload your pictures (to have the best quality and not the channel's logo) ? Thank you in advance--[[User:LeoKetchumB|LeoKetchumB]] ([[User talk:LeoKetchumB|talk]]) 19:11, 8 May 2015 (UTC)<br />
:All images on Bulbapedia are uploaded via the [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Main_Page Archives]. You can log in with your Bulbapedia account. Uploading images is done with the "Upload media" button in the left menu. Any additonal information can be found in the FAQ, also in the left menu. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 19:17, 8 May 2015 (UTC)<br />
::Thank you but I already read all of it. I just want to know if you take yourself screenshots on any streaming website or if you take it from a specific website ? :) --[[User:LeoKetchumB|LeoKetchumB]] ([[User talk:LeoKetchumB|talk]]) 19:26, 8 May 2015 (UTC)<br />
:::I mostly take the images I upload from [http://filb.de Filb.de]. This site has a friendly relationship with Bulbagarden and it is allowed to take images from their site. And sometimes I take images from YouTube videos by using printscreen. Do keep in mind though that these will usually be blurry and of below average quality. Good luck. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 19:35, 8 May 2015 (UTC)<br />
::::Do you know the reason why it says "You do not have permission to create new pages." when I try to upload a file ? Being autoconfirmed on Bulbapedia doesn't mean autoconfirmed on Bulbagarden archives ? {{unsigned|LeoKetchumB}}<br />
:::::That is correct. You have to get autoconfirmed on the Archives as well. Since you can't upload images yet, you'll have to find summaries of images you can edit or improve, it's pretty much the only way. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 14:41, 10 May 2015 (UTC)<br />
::::::What are the requirements to being autoconfirmed on Archives : just wait a certain time ? (cause there is nothing to edit on the Archives). {{unsigned|LeoKetchumB}}<br />
:::::::As far as I know, the requirements to be autoconfirmed on the Archives are exactly the same as on Bulbapedia. The exact number of edits you'll have to make is just a secret. "There is nothing to edit on the Archives" is not true, in my previous message I already told you you can edit summaries of images that are in need of improvement or something else. It's just harder to find something to edit on the Archives than it is on Bulbapedia, that's all. And please, don't forget to sign your comments. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 15:14, 10 May 2015 (UTC)<br />
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==Traveler a villain?==<br />
If I may ask, why did you move him to the villains category? What changed? [[User:The Great Butler|The Great Butler]] ([[User talk:The Great Butler|talk]]) 02:44, 14 May 2015 (UTC)<br />
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==Episode Title==<br />
If you hit the translate button, you'll see the real title. The title is called "Challenge Pokémon Sky Relay! Flightless, Onbatto!! [[User:Seabiscuit2020|Seabiscuit2020]] ([[User talk:Seabiscuit2020|talk]]) 18:54, 19 May 2015 (UTC)<br />
:Even if there's a title, it's better to wait till someone has created a page on it before adding a link to it. Bulbapedia has a couple of translators and one of them will have to properly translate the title first (automated internet translators are usually very wrong) before there will be a page on it. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 18:57, 19 May 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Deletion ==<br />
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I made a page for Ash's Noibat a while ago but it was not used for the actual page. How do I delete the page now that is not going to be used?[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] 12:25, 11 June 2015 (UTC)<br />
:Only staff can delete pages. I just deleted the page for you, thanks for bringing it up. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 12:45, 11 June 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== In other languages ==<br />
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Is there no specific style as to how the other language info has to be written? I have been editing a lot of these sections recently and saw that [[Starly (Pokémon)#In other languages|sometimes punctuations have been used, and sometimes not]]. It looks completely random and really not very good. I'm not saying that we should go ahead and make scores of edits to just add some full-stops, but there has to be some rule regarding this so that they can be gradually changed over time. -<span style="background:#000000;"><span style="color:#FFA500"><font face="Old English Text MT">''[[User:Sher-e-Bengal|<span style="color:#FFA500">Sher</span>]]-e-[[User_talk:Sher-e-Bengal|<span style="color:#FFA500">Bengal</span>]]''</font></span>-</span> 16:55, 20 June 2015 (UTC)<br />
:There's no specific style or rule on it, other than the standard rule of adding punctuation where necessary. Feel free to add punctuation if it's missing anywhere. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 18:01, 20 June 2015 (UTC)<br />
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==User Problem==<br />
Could you keep an eye on {{U|Pika The Shiny Pikachu}}. This editor is apparently over-editing the same page and my recent warning regarding the preview button is the third warning which may suggest this user is ignore these warnings. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] ([[User talk:Tyler53841|talk]]) 15:25, 25 July 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Need a little help ==<br />
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I posted on the discussion page for XY084 earlier, and you sent me a link to the forum thread about the episode. I have lost the link, so can you send it again? btw I woke up before 4:00 am, and watched through Tamagotchi and Aikatsu before watching Pokemon. [[User:PunkyNerdJoshi|PunkyNerdJoshi]] ([[User talk:PunkyNerdJoshi|talk]]) 12:48, 20 August 2015 (UTC)<br />
:The link is still on your talk page. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 12:51, 20 August 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Deletion == <br />
Once again one of the pages I made for a Pokémon was not used, [[User:Rahl/Serena's Eevee]]. Could you please delete it for me. Thank you.--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 11:00, 24 September 2015 (UTC)<br />
:Done. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 15:52, 24 September 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Future episodes help ==<br />
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I wanted to do something for one of the episodes but it's locked. Could you unlock it for a moment and don't worry I'll write it hidden and won't show it.--{{unsigned|JasonL}}<br />
:Future episodes are locked for a reason, almost always to avoid speculation. As you [[User_talk:Force_Fire#Wondering|were told previously]], just wait until the episode finishes airing to post the information you wish to. [[User:ChE clarinetist|ChE clarinetist]] ([[User talk:ChE clarinetist|talk]]) 13:59, 21 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Time ==<br />
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Excuse me, Blasingfist. For the English version of Pokemon XYZ,can you change the time to 7:00? It's not on 8:00 anymore.--[[User:CoolPokeGuy|CoolPokeGuy]] ([[User talk:CoolPokeGuy|Talk]]) 14:02, 18 February 2016 (UTC)<br />
:Done. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 14:34, 18 February 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Town infobox needs to be updated to display "other generation maps" for ORAS ==<br />
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Hello! Currently "[[Template:Town infobox|Town infobox]]" doesn't display "other generation maps" if the original generation parameter is less than 3. I believe this is because of the code <pre>{{#ifexpr: {{{generation|1}}} < 3|</pre> in the infobox :) This means that Hoenn locations in ORAS do not display the "other generation maps" panel, which would be needed in order to show the previous version of the location as seen in RSE. I can't even try to fix it, because I don't have the rights to edit it. Can you take a look and see if just changing that 3 to 4 makes it work properly, or if there is some other solution? Thanks! [[User:Kidburla|Kidburla]] ([[User talk:Kidburla|talk]]) 22:46, 28 March 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Pokémon Land image ==<br />
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Just wanted to let you know that I uploaded a different version of the [[a:File:Pokémon Land.png|Pokémon Land]] image not too long ago, making it similar to [[a:File:EP017.png]]. It did look similar to [[a:File:Island of the Giant Pokémon.png]] on the Bulbapedia side as the server didn't sync it yet. [[User:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Patty</span>]][[User talk:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Man</span>]] 00:25, 29 May 2016 (UTC)<br />
:That's good, thanks! <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 00:33, 29 May 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Fan Made Pokemon logo in Romanian ==<br />
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Hi there ^.^! I made two logos for the new Pokemon games, Sun and Moon, in Romanian! I was wondering if they can be published on the Pokemon Sun and Moon page, something like ”Fan made Romanian logo for Sun” And ”Fan made Romanian logo for Moon”. Thanks ^.^ If you accept, please tell me how can I sent them :)<br />
Cheers! [[User:AlexBrs3|AlexBrs3]] ([[User talk:AlexBrs3|talk]]) 08:44, 4 August 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== ISO Codes: Albanian ==<br />
I'd like you to add the Albanian temple as I found some info about Albanian movie titles. Thanks! [[User:Pokessio|Pokessio]] ([[User talk:Pokessio|talk]]) 20:07, 28 August 2016 (UTC)<br />
:Alright, if you can link me the template, I'll see what I can do. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 18:11, 30 August 2016 (UTC)<br />
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==[[XY132]]==<br />
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The episode already aired and I would like to add some plot to text. Can you change it to already aired in Japan but not in the US. ([[User talk:Orange Mo|talk]]) 21:17, 20 August 2016 (UTC)<br />
:Uhh, XY132 hasn't aired yet. It will air coming Thursday. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 14:22, 21 August 2016 (UTC)<br />
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==XY Round Covers==<br />
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Hi I was wondering if I could donate my XY covers, which are a lot cleaner because it's a digital source image than a scan. [[User:Oneplusoneis2|Oneplusoneis2]] ([[User talk:Oneplusoneis2|talk]]) 15:51, 30 August 2016 (UTC)<br />
:All images must be uploaded over at the [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Main_Page Archives], so head over there if you've got images to be put on Bulbapedia. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 18:11, 30 August 2016 (UTC)<br />
::Ahh, okay thanks! I'm not an autoconfirmed user, so I can't seem to upload anything there just yet. [[User:Oneplusoneis2|Oneplusoneis2]] ([[User talk:Oneplusoneis2|talk]]) 03:09, 31 August 2016 (UTC)<br />
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==UB-01==<br />
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Heh, sorry. I was just trying to save you all the hassle of creating the page. Hopefully you guys can make the page better. :)<br />
[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User:OdieboyDuck I'm a duck. That's pretty much it. -OdieboyDuck] 13:16, 6 September 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Mainspacing ==<br />
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So are these articles good enough to be shown to the public? [[User:Lunaflaire/Chespie]], [[User:Satsjoe/Lysandre's Gyarados]], [[User:Charlie/Diantha's Gardevoir]], [[User:05308/Z2]]. --[[User:Reinhartmax|Reinhartmax]] ([[User talk:Reinhartmax|talk]]) 18:53, 15 September 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Hey ==<br />
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Hope all is going well with you. Could you log on Discord whenever you get a chance? '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">--Pokemaster</span>]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">97</span>]]''''' 19:45, 6 October 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== What do you mean "Like what?" ==<br />
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Magical Leaf and Razor Leaf are both possible options. We've seen in Generations that not all of the moves look similar to how the moves in the anime series look nowadays, so why can't it be either of those two moves as well? All if the move was, were leaves cutting Goldbat. The swirling storm like gust could have come from whatever move Goldbat was using. [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]]) 13:36, 19 October 2016 (UTC)<br />
:I already removed it after I realized there were also leaves when it used Leaf Blade. But preferably, please bring these matters up on talk pages first before removing it all together (something which I also should have done) instead of blindly removing or undoing something. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 13:43, 19 October 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Deoxys ==<br />
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We also need a picture of Deoxys using Shadow Ball in PG09. --[[User:Seabiscuit2020|Seabiscuit2020]] ([[User talk:Seabiscuit2020|talk]]) 18:53, 29 October, 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Champions in Pokémon Generations ==<br />
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Just like Lance, Diantha is never stated to be the champion. If we take her being on stage as confirmation that she is Champion because that's what she did in the games as champion, then shouldn't the same count for Lance when attacking Team Rocket? [[User:DanyyelTR|DanyyelTR]] ([[User talk:DanyyelTR|talk]]) 01:18, 24 December 2016 (UTC)<br />
:Diantha is on stage during the Lumiose City ceremony to celebrate the new Champion. That should be enough confirmation. And Lance isn't there because one of the Rocket Grunts in PG04 explicitly said: "It's Lance of the Elite Four". <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 01:21, 24 December 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Old Woman (Alola) ==<br />
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Sorry if I caused any trouble creating the page, just thought it might be worth creating.--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 20:44, 3 April 2017 (UTC)<br />
:You didn't cause any trouble. With characters who didn't receive a name it's best to ask a staff member if it's okay to create the page however, since they don't always meet the notability norm. Oh and please use the correct link templates, so for Old woman (Alola), use <nowiki>{{al|Old woman}}</nowiki> instead of <nowiki>[[Old woman (Alola)|Old woman]]</nowiki>. Thanks! :) <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 20:48, 3 April 2017 (UTC)<br />
::Wasn't really sure what the correct template was but I do now. I find my confidence growing and am contributing a bit more to Bulbapedia now.--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 20:49, 3 April 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::We've all been there, so don't worry. Hope you continue editing! <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 20:53, 3 April 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::Thanks, hope to receive some more cast lists from Lisa Ortiz soon--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 20:54, 3 April 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Giant ==<br />
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Should I add the link, [[Giant Pokémon]], as a reference in the [[Giant]] disambiguation page or is the page just for the two characters with the name? [[User:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Patty</span>]][[User talk:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Man</span>]] 02:59, 28 April 2017 (UTC)<br />
:Yes, Giant Pokémon should also be added to the page and I see that has already been taken care of. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 09:41, 28 April 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Porygon nicknamed Pokémon ==<br />
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I recently came across [[User:Blazingfist/Anime Pokémon with nicknames]], which was very helpful, but I think that it's missing a Pokémon. In [[EP038]], "Electric Soldier Porygon", Team Rocket temporarily use a Porygon referred to as "[[List of Pokémon temporarily owned by the Team Rocket trio#Porygon Zero|Porygon Zero]]". While this episode wasn't aired outside of Japan and I don't speak Japanese so I can't verify it, I think it's technically the first nicknamed Pokémon. Unfortunately, I don't have edit rights to the user namespace so I can't add it myself, but I thought I'd let you know. -[[User:Thunderforge|Thunderforge]] ([[User talk:Thunderforge|talk]]) 03:26, 3 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
:Thanks, I added it! <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 12:21, 3 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Squirtle at Oak's Laboratory ==<br />
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Before the photo sequence, Rotom had gone missing from the corral. By the end of the episode it said itself that it went on a journey to fill the Kanto Pokédex, without specifying where exactly was it wandering around. The Squirtle Squad photo being specifically taken at Oak's lab is pure speculation. --[[User:Gabo 2oo|Gabo 2oo]] ([[User talk:Gabo 2oo|talk]]) 05:29, 22 September 2017 (UTC)<br />
:I'd say that the photo being taken outside of Oak's lab is pure speculation. There was no indication it had left. Going on a journey to fill fhe Kanto Pokédex may have meant as well going on a journey through the Oak corral, as it has been established that the corral is pretty big and a lot of Pokémon species live there. So saying Rotom left the lab is more speculative than saying it was at the lab all the time. Unless you have direct evidence that Rotom left the lab (dialogue I may have missed or something else). Then please present this. Rotom going missing is no evidence as they had a lot to focus on and had to cut away to other characters. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 09:11, 22 September 2017 (UTC)<br />
::Fair enough. I didn't consider a "journey" through the corral could actually make sense; I associated it with going out and exploring the region, even though doing so in just one day makes little sense. On the other hand, registering all the Kanto Pokémon (sans Mew) in Oak's corral also makes little sense, but yeah, there's no clear indication that Rotom had actually left the lab. --[[User:Gabo 2oo|Gabo 2oo]] ([[User talk:Gabo 2oo|talk]]) 19:46, 22 September 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::I can definitely see what you mean, and Squirtle not being at Oak's lab would make a lot more sense, but since we can't say for sure and the episode took place at Oak's lab, we have to avoid that assumption. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 19:59, 22 September 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Spambot ==<br />
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I would like to bring the attention to you of four spam pages not yet deleted, all created by this spambot user [[Special:Contributions/Poojakumari|Poojakumari]]. Thanks. — '''[[User:Ruixiang95|<span style="color:#1E90FF;">Ruixiang</span>]][[User talk:Ruixiang95|<span style="color:#4B0082;">95</span>]]''' 18:52, 25 September 2017 (UTC)<br />
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==Lusamine's Pokémon==<br />
Hi, I had a discussion with {{u|Pumpkinking0192}} on {{ut|Pumpkinking0192#Lusamine's Pokémon|his talk page}} about whether Lusamine's Herdier and Clefable have evolved from the Lillipup and Cleffa that appeared in her family photo, because this was never explicitly stated. However, up until now, we have always assumed that character's Pokémon have evolved if the character later reappeared with the Pokémon's evolved form (for example May's Venusaur, Paul's Aggron, Alain's Metagross, etc.). Since this situation is basically the same as those, I don't see why the Pokémon's evolution can't be assumed. Since you're a staff member, I thought I'd ask for your opinion on this. [[User:Satsjoe|Satsjoe]] ([[User talk:Satsjoe|talk]]) 15:08, 21 October 2017 (UTC)<br />
:My apologies for the late reply, I have been kind of busy lately. I can see both sides of the story, really. It's true that until now, we have often assumed that a Pokémon owned by someone is the same as its pre-evolved form if they were both owned by that certain someone. However, I can also see Pumpkinking's side of the argument, as policies and ways of thinking have changed around here through the years. Perhaps it is time to review this way of thinking. Trainers in the anime can just as easily own both species seperately. Take Nando for example, who owns both a Kricketot and a Kricketune. It's just that Kricketune appeared first that we know he owns them both, but if it was the other way around we might have wrongfully assumed Kricketune had evolved from Kricketot. I do get where this way of thinking comes from, as it is curious in this case that both Cleffa and Lillipup appear in the picture when Lusamine owns a Clefable and a Herdier. But when it comes down to it, we're not 100% sure and are technically assumimg when we listed them as evolved from Cleffa and Lillipup. Therefore, long story short, I don't really have the answer right now. It may be a bit much to retroactively use this new way of thinking on every article where this is applicable (I'd truly hate to list May both owning a Bulbasaur and a Venusaur to be honest, even if that is technically assuming too), but there is certainly truth in this way of thinking. Perhaps it's best if this issue is discussed on a broader scale, as I'm not exactly in the position to make a decision on this. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 21:01, 22 October 2017 (UTC)<br />
:: Ah okay, well thanks for your response. [[User:Satsjoe|Satsjoe]] ([[User talk:Satsjoe|talk]]) 18:23, 24 October 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Userspace edits ==<br />
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Just in case, I'm also gonna say it here; I replied to you on my [[User_talk:KingisNitro]]. [[User:KingisNitro|KingisNitro]] ([[User talk:KingisNitro|talk]]) 00:35, 18 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Can you help me with this? ==<br />
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I recently ran into a potential mistake regarding a held item on a [[Pokémon World Tournament]] Pokémon, and I'd like to see if a mistake has been made regarding it. Since I'm shamelessly lazy, I'll just say that the problem is described on [[Talk:Type Expert Tournament/Ground|this talk page]], instead of describing it here again. Sorry. Since you apparently own a Black 2 Version, could you check this out for me? I also have the Unova sequels on my emulator, but I can't remember if I've unlocked the correct tournament in them yet. Can you check if there has been a mistake? Whichever way it turns out to be, thank you in advance. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 15:40, 7 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I'll see what I can do. Problem is, I sent pretty much all of my high leveled, competitively viable Pokémon in B2W2 over to later games. So I'm not well equipped to do the Tournament anymore in that game. But I'll see if I can still check it out later. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 15:56, 7 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
::I understand. No worries or rush. Take your time. Just please let me know when you've checked it out. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 16:24, 7 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Took me some time but I managed to find it out. Power Herb is correct, see [https://i.imgur.com/qwrsNus.jpg screenshot] for evidence. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 21:35, 7 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
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==Mainspace articles==<br />
Was wondering if you could check the candidates for mainspace on my [[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User:BigDocFan|page]] to see if any can be approved and if not, what I can do to improve them for approval.--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 11:05, 13 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
:That is something I need to discuss with other people, so I'll review them and then get back to you later. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 11:17, 13 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Thanks sir, I understand--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 11:21, 13 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Don't suppose you've heard anything back about it?--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 11:37, 10 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::I'm afraid not. You might have more luck contacting someone on the [[Bulbapedia:Editorial Board|Editorial Board]] as they are the ultimate authority on if something can be mainspaced or not. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 11:58, 10 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::Anyone in particular you could recommend? {{unsigned|BigDocFan}}<br />
:::::Since all your mainspace candidates are Anime-related, try Pokemaster97 <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 12:05, 10 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
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==Singaporean/Playerking95==<br />
Was wondering if you or another admin could deal with the continuing squabbles going on by Singaporean and Playerking95 over edits. They seem to disagree over what is best put so feel someone with authority should make it clear which is better--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 15:22, 26 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
:No need, Singaporean keeps making wrong edits, by deleting important information or making speculative guesses.[[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]]) 08:35, 28 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Sophocles's Charjabug ==<br />
Could its history of being used in SM054 be removed? It only attacked one Pokemon once and that's all it did. The whole scenes of Lana, Mallow and Sophocles battling were short enough, but Charjabug's appearance was even smaller. [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]]) 08:35, 28 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Notes for the Pokemon Gold and Silver Beta Page ==<br />
I found some more information on the MicroGroup Game Review Volume 14 Issue, which detailed Tyranitar and two unused Pokemon. Since I cannot edit it, I wanted to forward the interview with Ken Sugimori, along with a page that shows the Pokemon in full view;<br />
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/lostpokemon/images/5/5d/Cover_Artist_Interview.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20111216210259<br />
http://www.hairyticksofdune.net/dropbox/sugimori.html<br />
--[[User:Pichu Madman26|Pichu Madman26]] ([[User talk:Pichu Madman26|talk]]) 21:24, 3 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Thanks for sharing this, it's really interesting. There's not a lot in the interview that's useful for Bulbapedia however. We already have a better image in color of the beta Pokémon and the interview doesn't contain anything that's vital to add to any page. But again, thanks for sharing and if you find anything else feel free to send me. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 08:56, 4 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
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==SM083==<br />
Appears to be an edit war going on over the Plot Summary for [[SM083]] between PardescanSlowbro and FinnishPokéFan92. Was wondering if an admin could sort it out once and for all as I hate seeing edit wars--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 11:38, 28 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
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==Question==<br />
Could my Professor Kukui anime page be mainspaced sometime soon? I feel like he's been important in at least a few episodes and he's appeared in almost all of them. WithTapu Koko, as it has played a big role in a few episodes and will be fighting Necrozma soon and that seems like something important in this arc. As for Rapp's Zubat, I'm not sure if it fits the criteria, but it was heavily involved in SM001, SM025 and somewhat so in SM084. [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]]) 15:43, 23 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Rapp's Zubat, no. Kukui, maybe. But that's not something I can decide on my own, I will need to consult with other staff. I think you're better off directly asking Head of Anime abcboy to be honest. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 15:52, 23 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Okay, thanks. {{unsigned|Playerking95}}<br />
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==Air Slash==<br />
FinnishPokeFan responded in an edit summary on Air Slash's page by saying Oh, be quiet, because there isn't any confirmation on some of Lunala's moves from today's episode? Could something be done about that edit summary telling me to shush? He also added Psycho Cut as a move that Necrozma used, but for months or weeks Lusamine's page listed Absol as having used Psycho Cut but it turned out to be Razor Wind. [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]]) 13:26, 30 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:The user is also adding Flash Cannon back to Nebby's page? Shouldn't moves be mentioned through dialogue or captions? [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]]) 13:27, 30 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
::I have told Finnish not to talk to other users like that. Regarding the moves, I'm not reverting his edits as I want to wait what kind of reasoning he has for adding these moves first. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 14:34, 30 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== repeated name ==<br />
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hey i couldnt help but notice u repeated ur name on the forums twice on your user page in the third paragraph --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 10:38, 21 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Thank you for noticing. Fixed. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 10:01, 28 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
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==Voice Actors==<br />
Could you or another admin member change it so that 4 actors/actresses can be listed in the VA box, such as with [[Pikarla]] as Mika Kanai, Chika Fujimura, Kei Shindō and Hitomi Kikuchi are listed as voicing Valley Pikachu?--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 21:27, 7 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I'll see what I can do, thanks for bringing it to my attention. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 21:28, 7 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Thanks, I know it is rare for something like this to happen, it was only earlier this year the number went from 2 to 3--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 21:29, 7 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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==Thanks==<br />
Thanks for deleting my pages, decided to clear my user page a bit including pages that I barely use, have no need for or starting afresh.--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 18:38, 23 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:No problem, happy to help out. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 18:40, 23 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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==Golem==<br />
FinnishPokeFan recently deleted one of Golem's appearances from its anime section, even though it's listed on SM081's page. I need to know, what was the reason for that edit. [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]]) 16:22, 27 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I don't know, you should ask him yourself on his talk page. But the situation seems to be resolved now from what I can tell. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 16:28, 27 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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==Eevee, Where Are You Going?==<br />
GrammarFreak keeps adding Eevee above Trainer Pokemon for episode 1. Aren't Trainer Pokemon always listed at the top of the list, even if the recurring Pokemon are important? [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]]) 09:44, 28 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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:I feel putting Eevee lower on the list would be detrimental, since it's clearly the star of those shorts yet there's more emphasis on the Trainers' Pokémon. The cast lists should reflect that. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 09:53, 28 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Pokémon belonging to '''main characters''' always goes first, and then important recurring Pokémon. Pokémon belonging to unimportant, nameless characters go after that. GrammarFreak is correct here.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 11:47, 28 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Except that's not true and has never been the case. Every single page lists recurring Pokemon under nameless Trainers. Look at SM013, Bewear is clearly listed under normal Trainers. [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]]) 12:36, 29 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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==Pokemon Hierarchy==<br />
To Blazingfist and only Blazingfist: Don't Pokemon with Trainers always go above wild Pokemon? [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]]) 12:38, 29 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I agree with Force Fire, this is a special case. Eevee is clearly the star of its own "show" and to list it secondary to background Pokémon in the listings would be rather silly if you ask me. These shorts are very different from regular episodes anyway. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 13:05, 29 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Pokémon League Conference article pictures ==<br />
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Since you have been minorly involved in this I thought I would come to you about it. On the [[Pokémon League Conference]] article, the table shows images of the locations where the competitions take place. The pictures of the Indigo Plateau and Silver Conferences have been changed to just pictures of the main stadiums. I personally don't agree with this change because all of the other tournament pictures show all of the stadiums the competition takes place in. The old pictures of Indigo Plateau and Silver Town showed all of the stadiums for those conferences, but the new single stadium pictures don't. Thoughts? --[[User:HoennMaster|<font color="blue">Hoenn</font>]][[User talk:HoennMaster|<font color="green">Master</font>]] 19:48, 8 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Yes, I agree with you. The images should be representative of the tournament complex as a whole, not just one small part of it. If there's a good image of the entire complex, I don't see any reason why we should change it to an image of just one stadium. This is especially the case with the Silver Conference IMO. We use images for the entire complex for the Hoenn, Sinnoh and Unova leagues and not just the stadium that the finals are held in, why should that be different for the Silver Conference?<br />
:Although I will say a case can be made for the Indigo Conference. The image that was used for it was from the Battle Frontier saga and also showed the Grand Festival venues, so it wasn't ideal. I'm not 100% sure, but I don't think the old Kanto league episodes ever showed a clear shot of the entire tournament complex. So I'm saying a case can be made there, but on the other hand I'm also not against using the Battle Frontier image. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 19:57, 8 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
::I find your choice of words very interesting. First because you're saying the ''main'' stadium of the Silver Conference is "just one small part of it" when it's actually the place where most of the important battles took place and also the largest stadium by far. We don't even have images of the other stadiums and yet we're choosing to ignore the one image we have because other stadiums exist (!!!).<br />
::Second because you seem to think that we have a good image of the entire complex when we don't. What we have is an image of Silver Town and we can hardly see the other stadiums there. The very user who uploaded that image, FinnishPokéFan92, prefers to use the image of the main stadium judging by their edit to the Pokémon League Conference page.<br />
::Lastly, in your most recent edit summary in the Pokémon League Conference page, you said ''"Let's stay consistent: the Hoenn, Sinnoh and Unova leagues don't use final stadium images."'' which I'm assuming is a joke, because as I said [[User talk:Mikuri#League Stadium pictures|here]], that is the ''opposite'' of being consistent. We use images of stadiums rather than images of the hosting city. If you want to see the image of the hosting city, you click on the link below the stadium image and check its page. The League tournaments you mentioned don't use "final stadium images" because all of their stadiums are connected.<br />
::Also, I'd like to add that you were the one who added that table listing the Grand Festival tournaments to the Grand Festival page, and you ''did not'' use the Indigo Plateau image, you chose to use the image of the main stadium, I wonder why it's different now. But that's that on that. Just wanted to point out all of these inconsistencies. They're happening fairly often as of lately. Can you believe that earlier today I added the incomplete tag to a page created by the current head of anime? A page that has almost no content aside from the langtable. In the past the staff would move these articles to the userspace, but now the staff is creating pages with two sentences directly in the mainspace. Thanks for reading. --[[User:Mikuri|<span style="color:#2b915e;">'''Mi'''</span>]][[User talk: Mikuri|<span style="color:#52cc91;">'''ku'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Mikuri|<span style="color:#8debbc;">'''ri'''</span>]] 01:06, 9 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::First off, please change your tone. I find your tone rather condescending, and I have often found it to be this way towards other people. It's not helping you in the least. You're not some high and mighty person whose opinions are superior.<br />
:::Regarding your points: yes, and the central stadiums of the Hoenn, Sinnoh and Unova Leagues are also a small part of it, and yet we use the overview images. Yes, the other stadiums exist, and that's exactly why. They should be acknowledged. The League '''didn't''' take place in just one big stadium, it took place over multiple stadiums and the image reflects that.<br />
:::There's where we disagree, I do. It '''is''' an image of the entire complex. <br />
:::I disagree again, I think only doing the final stadium thing for two leagues and not three others is inconsistent. It's not a joke in the least, it's fairly rude of you to say so. I don't think your opinions are a joke, even though I disagree with them. I don't see what stadiums being connected has to do with anything. Either upload final stadium images of the Hoenn, Sinnoh and Unova league or don't. It's that simple.<br />
:::Yes, I did at that time, but my first priority was getting that template done and that Grand Festival image just used to be the main page image at that time. I don't really know about any inconsistensies. Maybe it's just things not going the way you want them to go. I can't speak for abcboy, and it's fairly unbelievable that you choose to backstab him via some unrelated discussion on my talk page. If you have a problem with him, bring it up with him, not me. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 07:21, 9 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::I am not the one acting as if my opinions are superior. There wasn't a single moment when I said ''"I '''personally''' don't agree with this"'' or a variation of that. Unlike HoennMaster who literally said that, word for word, I wasn't giving my own personal opinion, I was stating (and illustrating with examples) how things work (or used to work, I don't know anymore) around here.<br />
::::Regarding my tone, well, if you look at the three most recent discussions on my talkpage, you will see that I can be very nice and polite. But different situations call for different tones, and I am sorry if this discussion hurt your feelings.<br />
::::It doesn't surprise me in the least that you find the Silver Town image a good one considering all of the low quality images you uploaded to start [[User:Blazingfist/Anime competitions|this page]] (some of which now have newer, better versions uploaded by me). And just to clarify, I wasn't laughing at your opinions, but rather at your courage to argue that you're being consistent when you're not.<br />
::::Also, I wasn't backstabbing abcboy. If I had sent you a private message, sure. But this page can (and I'm sure it has) be read by him. Stabbing someone in the back means the person isn't looking, and this discussion is available for anyone to see. What I was doing is painting a picture, one that shows the staff as people whose actions are not consistent with how they expect other users to behave and with Bulbapedia's overall style.<br />
::::Please answer, was I lying when I said that starting an article the way abcboy started the [[Wind Festival]] one (if we can call that an article) would result in the user who started it receiving a warning on their talkpage, told to wait for more information, and having the page moved to their userspace? Is this not true?<br />
::::You said that my attitude isn't helping me at all, but when [[User talk:Force Fire#Need your help|I did ask for help]], I didn't get any response. Apparently because FF seems to think that [[Special:Diff/2821305|this kind of edit]] is doing wonders for Bulbapedia. Or perhaps because he is too busy doing [[Special:Diff/2875741|things like this]]? Because these are two great examples of quality edits.<br />
::::To further confirm what I'm saying about the staff being inconsistent, we have [[Weather trio|this page]] sitting at the pile of candidates for moving for over two years now because, [[Talk:Weather trio#Super-ancient Pokémon|according to Tiddlywinks]], we have to wait for Editorial Board approval when, in reality, EB member Ataro created the article [[super-ancient Pokémon (Adventures)]]. Don't you find that curious?<br />
::::The same Tiddlywinks [[User talk:Tiddlywinks#Battle Frontier articles|recently deleted]] the Battle Frontier articles even though the split had been approved by SnorlaxMonster. But I am sure that you're well aware of all of that because you said that you have found my tone to be condescending towards other people, so it can be presumed that you have seen these messages before.<br />
::::It seems as if I have changed topics, but when I joined this discussion I wasn't planning to get the Silver Stadium image back into the Pokémon League Conference page. You had already made your decision without waiting for a proper discussion to take place and ignoring, as did HoennMaster, the existing discussion on my talkpage. I was trying to shine a light on these inconsistencies, which I have accomplished. I'm hoping that you understand that instead of accusing me of backstabbing others. Thank you. --[[User:Mikuri|<span style="color:#2b915e;">'''Mi'''</span>]][[User talk: Mikuri|<span style="color:#52cc91;">'''ku'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Mikuri|<span style="color:#8debbc;">'''ri'''</span>]] 16:19, 11 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::This discussion didn't hurt my feelings in the least. But it's clear that you can be very dismissive of others and their opinions. Look no further than "I'm assuming is a joke" in your previous message. And you display this kind of attitude all over. I'm sure you can be nice as well, but that doesn't excuse your less favourable behaviour. I don't really care if you think my opinions or way of thinking are a joke, but it's no secret that a lot of people at Bulbapedia and Bulbagarden in general have autism, social anxiety, etc., and speaking so harshly to others can be hurtful to them. Take that as you wish. There's no problem with disagreeing with someone, but you can do so in a courteous, respectful way.<br />
:::::Not sure why you're bashing the images over at '''my''' userspace page that currently doesn't have a Mainspace tag to it. Seems rather petty of you to complain over that, but alas.<br />
:::::Alright, perhaps backstabbing was not the right word. But I still find it pretty weak to bring it up in an unrelated discussion on my talk page. You didn't bother to talk this over with abcboy on his talk page. I'm honestly not sure why you're rambling on about unrelated staff complaints in a message about some image. I'm just an Administrator so I'm not the one to solve broader staff complaints. If you feel something is wrong with Bulbapedia staff, talk it over with Kogoro.<br />
:::::I honestly have nothing further to say to you or to add to this discussion. I've said what I've wanted to say on the matter as a whole and in response to your message. My opinion hasn't changed and I have much better things to do currently than argue in long posts over some image (letalone staff complaints), so I won't reply any further, just so you know. For staff complains I'll redirect you to Kogoro and for discussion regarding the image, just start a talk page discussion and ask what other users think. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 16:47, 11 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::So judging by the messages you left on this discussion you have seen me treating others in a condescending manner for quite a while now but it never once crossed your mind to leave me a message on my talk page telling me to be nicer or something? It's only when it affects you directly that you felt the need to speak out and play the role of advocate for autism and social anxiety? Nice try but I'm not buying it.<br />
::::::I wasn't ''bashing'' your images. I was merely saying they're low quality, which is far from offering the harsh criticism the word "bashing" conveys. How easily offended can you be? Please select your words more carefully and don't attempt to paint me as someone I am not. First by saying I was backstabbing abcboy, then by implying I'm not considerate of others, and now this.<br />
::::::And please give me some credit. How clueless do you think I am? The section directly above this one has Playerking95 demanding to be answered by you and only you. The reason for this? Everyone and their grandparents know that staff members keep an eye on each others' talk pages. Staffers have meddled into several discussions outside their talk pages before, but oftentimes they will conveniently ignore some discussions like this one. Why should I copy and paste this into the talk pages of each of the users I mentioned? To be left on read by Force Fire again? To be told by Tiddlywinks that there's no great rush in solving a problem he created?<br />
::::::I doubt abcboy and the others haven't read this yet, but he hasn't replied because there's really no defending a two-sentence article. And whether or not you admit it, you know fully well I'm right, otherwise you would have answered the question I left in my previous message regarding this.<br />
::::::Answering or ignoring this is your choice, and I have no interest in continuing this discussion either, but I'm not going to sit and watch as you act all holier-than-thou and paint me as a backstabber inconsiderate who is bashing you. --[[User:Mikuri|<span style="color:#2b915e;">'''Mi'''</span>]][[User talk: Mikuri|<span style="color:#52cc91;">'''ku'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Mikuri|<span style="color:#8debbc;">'''ri'''</span>]] 22:49, 11 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::It's clear that you don't think very highly of me but no worries, the feeling is entirely mutual. As I said, I have no interest in further talking with you. Discuss your pent up staff frustrations with Kogoro. Bye bye now. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 22:57, 11 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
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==List of anime characters==<br />
Thought I would explain here, the List of anime characters page as it was listed Stufful twice, I deleted the one I added and kept the one you added.--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 11:27, 11 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Yeah I just noticed, didn't see that Stufful was listed twice. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 11:28, 11 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
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==Bloom Doom==<br />
I tried updating the anime section of {{m|Bloom Doom}} to include Rowlet's base moving being Razor Leaf or Seed Bomb given its usage in today's episode but a problem occurred. Grammarfreak undid my edit as he didn't know what to do so I thought I would ask an admin for help.--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 12:44, 18 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Hmm... not sure what went wrong with your edit. But no problem, it's fixed now! <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 14:41, 18 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Thanks, just been comparing how I did to the way you did it, I had the move but with only }} instead of }}}}--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 14:47, 18 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::I see, no problem. Mistakes happen. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 17:39, 18 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
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==Help==<br />
Its not letting me Upload images for Lets GO sprites, it says I don't have Permission, what do I Do? [[User:BrendanC|Brendan C]] ([[User talk:BrendanC|talk]]) 14:45, 18 November 2018 (UTC)BrendanC<br />
:I'm assuming you mean on the Archives? It's possible it's because you're not autoconfirmed yet. You can read it [https://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Archives:FAQ here], but what it basically means is that you will have to make a certain amount of edits on the Archives first and your account needs to have existed for a certain amount of time as well. Even I don't know how much edits you need to make or how old your account needs to be, but I'd suggest just looking around on the Archives and see if there's any image descriptions you can add something to or improve. Let me know if you need any further help. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 14:54, 18 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I've done work on the Archives, and been on it for a while, but still not autoconfirmed. I need to try and get these Lets Go Sprites Up. Thanks For the Help. [[User:BrendanC|Brendan C]] ([[User talk:BrendanC|talk]]) 17:34, 18 November 2018 (UTC)BrendanC<br />
::No problem, happy to help. Good luck on getting autoconfirmed! <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 17:39, 18 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== [[Trophy Garden]] edit war with FinnishPokéFan92 ==<br />
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Hi there! I recently added a section to the [[Sea Cottage]] article about the infamous Bill's Secret Garden rumour, which I felt was worthy of inclusion due to it being of similar infamy to [[the truck]] and [[Mewthree]]. After adding a trivia note to the [[Trophy Garden]] article about it being an apparent reference to the rumour, [[user:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] reverted this without discussion. After restoring this with an edit requesting discussion and adding a talk page discussion, FinnishPokéFan92 once again reverted this without engaging. I've reached out to FinnishPokéFan92 to try and settle this, but if we can't come to an agreement I'd appreciate if you can step in. It should be noted that I don't think they're trying to be disruptive - they did actually improve upon my additions to the Sea Cottage article. --[[User:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] [[User talk:Poppy Appletree|:3]] 13:12, 20 November 2018 (UTC)</div>
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<div>'''Archieved talks:''' [[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92/Archive 1]] (archieved on November 5, 2015)<br />
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== XY093 errors ==<br />
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Why did you erase the error section of ''[[XY093|All Eyes on the Future!]]''? You said you disagree with them, but that doesn't make them any less of mistakes. {{m|Light Screen}} was shown protecting the male {{p|Meowstic}} from {{AP|Talonflame}}'s {{m|Flame Charge}} despite Light Screen only reducing damage from Special Attacks, like {{AP|Frogadier}}'s {{m|Water Pulse}}, not from Physical Attacks like Talonflame's Flame Charge. Later on in that episode, when Talonflame used {{m|Steel Wing}} on the male Meowstic, [[Professor Sycamore]] said that Light Screen doesn't work on Physical Attacks like Steel Wing. Later, {{an|Clemont}} claimed that {{a|Prankster}} was making {{m|Helping Hand}} a priority move when Helping Hand is already one to begin with, for Helping Hand always goes first even if the Pokémon using it didn't have Prankster as their ability. {{a|Keen Eye}} only prevents your Pokémon's accuracy from lowering and ignores an opponent's evasive stats. Professor Sycamore claimed that Psyshock was chasing Frogadier and Talonflame because the female Meostic had Keen Eye, but moments ago, you clearly see the Meowstic using Psychic to make the Psyshock go after Ash's Pokémon. That's why these are mistakes. --[[User:PKMNAdventurer|PKMNAdventurer]] ([[User talk:PKMNAdventurer|talk]]) 17:11, 8 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Finally some Colo data ==<br />
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I finally got my rear in gear with some of that [[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92/Archive 1#Colo/XD data|Colo/XD team data]]. I've got Colosseum teams now. [http://www.mediafire.com/download/t6gaudyp6atho2b/ Here's] the file.<br />
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There are some comments in the file. The file is huge... I imagine the easiest thing will be to poke around BP's pages and just search for the right Trainers in the file. If you have any questions about anything, feel free to ask. =) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 05:32, 14 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
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:Thanks a ton! I'll hopefully get on with it later today. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:56, 14 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
::I figured out a couple things I did wrong for that Colosseum data with the gender. Half is BP's Shadow and non-Shadow templates acting a bit differently when the "gender=" parameter is missing, and half is a separate mistake on my part. I'll fix that up later on and update the link above.<br />
::FYI, right now for XD, I've mostly got the story data converted (just testing a few Trainers, and finding things like that gender issue), but XD also has a good amount of data for other modes, which (with the lazy-ish way I'm doing it) will also be a bit of an annoyance to make work (mostly tedious). [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 21:43, 15 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
:::[http://www.mediafire.com/download/ra320pu97afz07x/ XD data]. I've also fixed up the Colosseum data (replaced above; if you wanna check some of the differences, try searching for Entei.)<br />
:::Colosseum's gender data is pretty straightforward, so I think it's OK now, but XD's is less so... For now for XD, I've assumed all Shadow Pokemon have a random gender (so far as they can), and everything else's gender works like I *think* it does. If you're ever in doubt, you can always try to check playthrough videos. I've done that a bit already while testing my output, and where I have, my data was right (and not just for gender; though Abilities can be hard to be sure about). [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 22:09, 17 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
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==Hyperspace Hole==<br />
Did Hoopa literally used Hyperspace Hole in the movie when it was summoning Pokémon? Because someone told me it did. [[User:Seabiscuit2020|Seabiscuit2020]] ([[User talk:Seabiscuit2020|talk]]) 20:21, 17 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
:I doubt it was Hyperspace Hole, since Hoopa Unbound did it too, and it already has four other moves. Remember, the anime has been pretty consistent with the "only four moves at a time" thing over the recent years, so... --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:40, 18 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
::That was Hyperspace Fury. It's Unbound Form doesn't use Hyperspace Hole. Only when it is in its Confined Form.[[User:Seabiscuit2020|Seabiscuit2020]] ([[User talk:Seabiscuit2020|talk]]) 06:45, 18 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
:::I know. That's what I was saying. The rings are just Hoopa's special power. Confined didn't use them as an attack, so it wasn't Hyperspace Hole. Also, Unbound used its rings the same way too, so it can't be that move. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 14:56, 18 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
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==Clemont's Inventions==<br />
Can you add the information of Clemont's inventions from [[XY088]] and [[XY089]], please? -- [[User:Seabiscuit2020|Seabiscuit2020]] ([[User talk:Seabiscuit2020|talk]]) 22:10, 22 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Old Amber ==<br />
I don't understand why there's no need for that. In gen. I there weren't key items, and it doesnt say so in the text. ( first time: 8 November 2015 9:33:45 (UTC)) [[User:Lokki|Lokki]] ([[User talk:Lokki|talk]]) 20:04, 23 November 2015 (UTC)<br />
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== Items! ==<br />
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I just want to go into a bit more detail about why I like the order I wrote on [[Dewford Town]]. I can certainly understand reasons for liking other orderings, and it's hard to say what may be "always" best, so I think there's definitely room for discussion. =)<br />
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1) I don't think there should be any "separation" of the games (which I'm just guessing is the reason you put the Ribbon last on Dewford). I.e., I really don't like the idea of putting all the items that first appeared in RS first, then all the items that appeared in E (but not RS), then all the items that appeared in ORAS (but not RSE) (or whatever games). That's just confusing as hell in longer lists.<br />
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2) I think items should be listed by an order of traversal. Basically, pick something that at least makes ''some'' (consistent) sense, and stick to it. Basically, N to S then E to W, or E to W then N to S, or... Anyway, this one I'm kind of taking on a case-by-case, "how do I feel" sort of basis. Currently, I'm not entirely sure if it should ''very strictly'' obey the location's natural traversal (like, you first enter from N/S/E/W, so that's where the list should start), or if maybe it should always be "reading" order (left>right (E>W), top>bottom (N>S)), or what.<br />
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2b) I'm a little torn on whether accessibility requirements should affect the order things are listed in. I.e., when you first reach some places, you may not have an HM that will let you get some of the items, so any of those that you'd have to return for could be listed after all of the things you can get immediately. ...The thing that kind of tilts my opinion in this case is that, if you don't grab any items at first and only scour the town after you have all necessary HMs (like in the postgame), then a single, coherent listing of all the items is best, otherwise you may be forced to backtrack a bit for an item that needs an HM. And at the same time, with a single, coherent list, people who are only on their first visit can easily just skip those items they can't get.<br />
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These things basically seem best and simplest/most consistent all around, to me. (And simple is best. Less room for arguments; or confusion.)<br />
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(Hope all that's not too wall-of-texty... =P ) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 16:19, 6 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Aero ==<br />
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hey! How are you? :) You must know that your page was chosen to be the official [[Aero]] one. I just happen to have worked on it too ( [[User:MannedTooth/Aero]]) and wondered if there is anything you would like to add to yours? I'm thinking of the Giovanni part, since Aero technically was owned by him before Red. Anyway, take a look at that :) [[User:MannedTooth|<span style="color:#FF8000"> MannedTooth </span>]] ([[User_Talk:MannedTooth|Talk]]) 15:12, 7 April 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== XYZ ==<br />
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Can you add the Finnish/Swedish name origins for [[Squishy]] and lyrics/translations for [[Stand Tall]] to the [[List of Finnish Pokémon themes]] and [[List of Swedish Pokémon themes]]? Thanks! --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 04:02, 13 May 2016 (UTC)<br />
:I'd be pleased to do so if I knew where to watch those XYZ episodes. I didn't even know they had Finnish titles until just now to be honest. The previous season ended just last week or so. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 04:09, 13 May 2016 (UTC)<br />
::http://www.pokemon.com/fi/pokemon-jaksot/ and http://www.pokemon.com/se/pokemon-avsnitt/ --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 04:18, 13 May 2016 (UTC)<br />
:::Thanks! I'll get to work on them tomorrow, I am unable to watch them just now. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 04:39, 13 May 2016 (UTC)<br />
::::Also, when you get around to adding the lyrics, the titles of the songs need to go on [[Stand Tall]] in the "In other languages" section; I forgot to mention that earlier. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 17:46, 14 May 2016 (UTC)<br />
:::::Of course. I'll keep that in mind. Also, I kinda forgot to do that today, so I'll try to remember it tomorrow. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 18:02, 14 May 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Lyrics problem ==<br />
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Hello, I don't know how much Swedish you speak but I was wondering if you could take a look at Bli en hjälte and Pokémonsången XY because I can't make out the two dotted lines I left at Bli en hjälte and also the question mark at Pokémonsången XY. I'm afraid that I couldn't find Bli en hjälte on youtube, I listened to that at tv4 play, [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODba6H8vVJs&list=PL-mKIkFm-cVXWMv4Nmb_S1c9uzx1glO9E&index=3&nohtml5=False here is the link to Pokémonsången XY movie version at youtube]. Tack på förhand. --[[User:Raltseye|<span style="color:#FF6464">R</span><span style="color:#11BB11">alts</span>]][[User talk:Raltseye|<span style="color:#6890F0">e</span><span style="color:#6464FF">y</span><span style="color:#6890F0">e</span>]] 19:28, 3 June 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Stadium 2 Trainers ==<br />
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First of all, thanks for working on getting the details for the trainers in each cup, I at least really appreciate it. :) Do you have any plans to continue with work on the Gym Leader Castle trainers? Currently all of the more detailed information is scattered over about two dozen pages, and only the Gym Leaders and Rocket Executives have any detailed data. The same thing is the case for Stadium 1's GLC as well. If you weren't planning on doing anything with them, I'd probably get to it eventually, but I thought I'd check in with you first. [[User:VioletPumpkin|VioletPumpkin]] ([[User talk:VioletPumpkin|talk]]) 02:00, 21 June 2016 (UTC)<br />
:First of all, thanks for the compliment. Second, no I wasn't planning on doing anything with the GLC Trainers. Much like core series Gym Trainers, I don't think they really need any detailed info, at least not on the Gym pages. If there are separate pages for GLC Trainers, I can reconsider. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 08:09, 21 June 2016 (UTC)<br>PS. The only Cup thing that I haven't been able to completely add was the Jr. female's Squirtle's moveset in Stadium's [[Fancy Cup|Petit Cup]] Round 2. Any source material I could find incorrectly listed its moveset as the same used by the same Trainer's Meowth in Round 1, which is why it was initially missing from the otherwise already completed Trainer list for the Cup. By watching several videos, I was able to figure out three of Squirtle's moves, but the fourth one is still unknown to me. I hate incompleteness, so I'd really appreciate any kind of help. Thank you.<br />
::I understand, and agree that putting them onto the general "Pewter Gym" and similar pages might be a bit much. I'll probably try making dedicated GLC trainer pages since it feels at least as significant as the other cups to me, but I'm not sure when I'd get around to it. And thanks for the notice about the Squirtle, I'll take a closer look at it. [[User:VioletPumpkin|VioletPumpkin]] ([[User talk:VioletPumpkin|talk]]) 15:55, 22 June 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Colo/XD script (Miror B) ==<br />
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In response to [[Special:Diff/2469466|this]] lament for Miror B's quotes, you could try checking the {{DL|User:Abcboy|text dumps}} I made for Colo/XD linked on Abcboy's userpage. If you can identify enough of the quote, you can probably get the rest of what came after it. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 12:02, 10 July 2016 (UTC)<br />
:Thanks a ton! I more than appreciate your gesture! :D --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 12:14, 10 July 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Anime edits ==<br />
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Hi! Playerking95 [[User talk:Playerking95#About unnecessary edits|seems to think]] that you've been targetting him/his edits. I'd like to ask you to describe your perspective on this situation. (Please understand I make no judgement either way at this point.)<br />
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Thanks. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 14:52, 4 August 2016 (UTC)<br />
:(P.S. I'm asking you do it here rather than respond at Playerking's talk page. It could "explode" either way, but it's a bit less likely if we keep this part here for now. Thanks.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 14:53, 4 August 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== New episodes ==<br />
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In the future, please use {{template|New episode}} when creating pages for new episodes. It's fine to make another edit after substituting the template to change anything the template doesn't fill in. This prevents errors like incorrect preview threads, incorrect ordinal numbers in the intro, allows the interwiki links to be automatically generated, and helps prevent other copy-and-paste errors. Thanks! --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 15:36, 6 August 2016 (UTC)<br />
:Thanks. I had kinda forgotten that. I'll keep that in mind. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 16:00, 6 August 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Swimming to Kalos ==<br />
How on earth could that be interpreted as not the same person? A person in a game says he will do the exact same action as someone in a different game has completed, within the same generation, when we know ORAS is set before XY and has references which say as much, and it's the same trainer class, but they're different people? I legitimately dont understand how one could come to that conclusion. [[User:Smear-Gel|Smear-Gel]] ([[User talk:Smear-Gel|talk]]) 05:11, 1 September 2016 (UTC)<br />
:How about the fact that they '''don't even have the same name?''' Word that piece of trivia a bit differently, and the only thing left to fix are possible grammar errors. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 12:46, 1 September 2016 (UTC)<br />
::Well that's dumb, I didnt even consider they'd do that. Now I wonder why on earth Gamefreak would have put that effort into that easter egg and then make the names different. Not even the Japanese names are the same? Because that seems silly. Either way I guess I need to look into that and reword it before posting again. [[User:Smear-Gel|Smear-Gel]] ([[User talk:Smear-Gel|talk]]) 22:26, 1 September 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Deoxys ==<br />
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Did Deoxys use Safeguard or Protect in PG09? And did Deoxys use Recover when it regenerated itself? [[User:Seabiscuit2020|Seabiscuit2020]] ([[User talk:Seabiscuit2020|talk]]) 20:08, 28 October 2016 (UTC)<br />
:First off: I'm surprised you thought of ME of all people when deciding to ask someone. Second: I think it was Protect, but I don't think it used Recover. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 20:13, 28 October 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Edit Summaries (again) ==<br />
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You've been spoken to before about using edit summaries to vent/complain about other users in the past. Edit summaries like [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Pok%C3%A9_Ball&curid=759&diff=2526760&oldid=2526478 these] are unnecessary and does nothing to contribute to the overall project of Bulbapedia. Follow the {{bp|Code of Conduct}} at all times. Thank you. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">--Pokemaster</span>]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">97</span>]]''''' 23:44, 29 October 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Heatran ==<br />
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What moves did Heatran use in PG12? One of which looked like Protect while the first one looked like either Flamethrower or Eruption. [[User:Seabiscuit2020|Seabiscuit2020]] ([[User talk:Seabiscuit2020|talk]]) 19:43, 5 December 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Heatran and Mimikyu ==<br />
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What moves did Heatran use in PG12? One of which looked like Protect while the first one looked like either Flamethrower or Eruption. And was Mimikyu using Feint Attack or Wood Hammer in SM003? [[User:Seabiscuit2020|Seabiscuit2020]] ([[User talk:Seabiscuit2020|talk]]) 20:19, 8 December 2016 (UTC)<br />
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== Trainer classes ==<br />
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It seems to me that if old information on Plasma and Flare is wrong, we should be correcting that rather than citing it as a justification for maintaining false information on Skull, don't you think? [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 20:14, 10 February 2017 (UTC)<br />
:Are you going to answer me? [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 15:51, 20 February 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Edit warring ==<br />
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I just wanna let you know part of my own personal definition of edit warring. IMO, if you revert (basically) the same edit up to two times, that may or may not be edit warring, depending on the overall situation. But if you do it a third time, that's definitely crossed a line.<br />
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That's certainly not to say that toeing that line every time would be advisable or anything. If you can settle a conflict with discussion sooner rather than later, that's definitely preferable. And you've been around long enough. You definitely should know to use talk pages for this sort of thing, rather than trying to do it all right on [[Gladion]]. Please take more care in the future. Thanks. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 22:27, 10 February 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Electric Terrain ==<br />
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The dub CCs state explicitly that Tapu Koko used the move Electric Terrain. Unless there's explicit evidence to the contrary (like if a character states that the Electric Terrain in SM002 was a result of its Ability) it should be kept on the page. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 18:17, 23 March 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Playthroughs in your userspace ==<br />
Hi!<br />
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I really like your playthrough section and would like to use your code to list my playthroughs in my userpage. Is that okay? [[User:Arctic|Arctic]] ([[User talk:Arctic|talk]]) 19:40, 3 May 2017 (UTC)<br />
:Of course. Go ahead. It's not like I'm the only person who's using it to begin with. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 04:19, 4 May 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Anime moves ==<br />
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It looks like you [[Special:Diff/2635947|recently added]] some moves that Playerking removed. I just want to make sure our policy on adding moves from the anime is clear: unless the move is called (or else explicitly identified after being used), don't assume.<br />
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The only moves it's tentatively acceptable to identify by animation alone are the ones listed [[User:Force Fire/List of moves with unique animations|here]]. Honestly, I don't know the scenes in question, and Hyper Beam is on that list so I don't know what to say about that; but Bite isn't.<br />
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Anyway, please keep this in mind when adding moves for the anime in the future. Thanks! [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 14:15, 4 May 2017 (UTC)<br />
:[[Special:Diff/2663846|Please remember]] the above. If you think Hydro Pump has a unique animation, consider bringing it up on the talk page Force Fire's user page. Please be careful as well about generally engaging in edit wars.<br />
:I don't think this guideline is all that hard to grasp. Please remember next time. Thanks. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 14:59, 6 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
::[[Special:Diff/2678822|This thing]] with Thunder Wave seems to be the exact same situation as Hydro Pump just above. It's been a little while since then so I'm going to remind you this once more, but if it happens again, as far as I'm concerned you will be earning a block to help you remember afterwards. If a move is not stated explicitly, do not add it; at most, ask someone. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 17:10, 17 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::''(The resposne below is technically copied from [[Special:Diff/2678964|here]].)''<br />
:::I'm sorry if I seemed arrogant or whatever by adding that {{m|Thunder Wave}} use. However, I would like to assure you that I've learned my lesson: I don't add too ambiguous moves without them being confirmed anymore. However, this case wasn't ambiguous at all in my mind: the animation used for the move was identical to the one used in the {{series|XY}}, you can check it out yourself if you want. A couple other users have also already left agreeing opinions to T-Wave's talk page. Do you give me the permission to restore my edit? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 04:30, 18 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::Please keep conversations in one place.<br />
::::In case it wasn't clear after all, this isn't about adding moves that are "too ambiguous". This is about adding moves that are ''not explicitly stated''. If such a move is not on Force Fire's user page, don't add it. Neither Hydro Pump nor Thunder Wave were on that page. You're welcome to ask, but it's not your judgement to make. Ask. Always ask.<br />
::::Thanks. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 05:48, 18 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::::The point my friend is trying to make is that Thunder Wave is a completely unique animation and, without a doubt, SHOULD be added to Force Fire's page. [[User:05308|<font color="blue">Diamond</font>]] [[Lanturn (Pokémon)|<font color="yellow">Lanturn</font>]] [[User talk:05308|<font color="red">CodeName: 05308</font>]] 09:43, 18 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::::For Tiddlywinks: That sounds pretty complicated. I recall that it hasn't always been like that, which is probably why I'm having tough times adapting to this way of doing things. Also, I think that having to wait for an agreement on any unspoken move or Ability's identity sounds really boring, and it feels to me like a legit fact is being withheld from the site for no good reason. But it seems I have no choice but to submit...<br><br />
::::::For 05308: Yeah, I agree that it should be done ASAP.<br />
::::::PS. Sorry for rambling. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 11:12, 18 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::::::I understand your point, 05308; it's still ''your'' opinion and not your decision to make. I hope you follow the same guidelines: ask. Thanks. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 15:34, 18 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::::::Hol on a minute, is a "point" or an "opinion"- the animation for Thunder Wave that has been used throughout the XY series (And now in the Sun and Moon series) IS a unique animation. That is a fact and not an opinion. Even if you want to argue that what Murkrow used was Upproar, and the animation was (for some reason) exactly the same as Thunder Wave's animation in XY. Thunder Wave's animation in XY was factually unique. Force Fire has acknowledged the list is unfinished so Thunder Wave's absence from the list is not invocative of Thunder Wave not having a unique animation. Don't patronize me with nonsense about everything being an opinion. Thunder Wave should be on the list for its XY (and SM) animation- that's not an opinion. [[User:05308|<font color="blue">Diamond</font>]] [[Lanturn (Pokémon)|<font color="yellow">Lanturn</font>]] [[User talk:05308|<font color="red">CodeName: 05308</font>]] 19:38, 18 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::''It's not your judgement to make''.<br />
:::::::::If we just go, sure, we're sure you're right, then we have to allow anyone's opinion about anything. We're not opening that can of worms or we'll just have basically the same as we did before and/or more edit wars.<br />
:::::::::This isn't hard: just ask. I hope you understand. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 19:56, 18 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::If I may intrude, 05308, I think Tiddlywinks' point that you aren't understanding is that because it's not on the list ''yet'', we must wait until it has been added to the list ''before'' we can add it based on appearance. It's not about whether Thunder Wave might or might not be something else, it's about jumping through the proper hoops even with things you think are "obvious" so that there isn't a precedent for cutting corners in the future when someone decides something else is "obvious" and gets it wrong. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 21:37, 18 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
I absolutely understand the thing about not assuming moves and all that comes with it- I don't always agree but whatever. However, Thunder Wave did have a unique animation in XY- that is a fact and not an opinion. I don't care what you put on any of the pages, but opinions and facts are different. If being an admin means you'll not admit you're wrong even at the expense of showing you can understand very simple concepts- you are not doing a good job. <br />
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I apologise that all this has to happen on FinnishPokéfan's page. [[User:05308|<font color="blue">Diamond</font>]] [[Lanturn (Pokémon)|<font color="yellow">Lanturn</font>]] [[User talk:05308|<font color="red">CodeName: 05308</font>]] 22:03, 18 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
:Come on... Look. I'm not saying Thunder Wave isn't a unique move&mdash;I'm not making any judgement on that score. Okay? I'm saying your judgement doesn't decide whether it can be added as "unique". I hope you understand. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 22:51, 18 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
::I understand, I've understood since before I interjected into to conversation, but you keep saying "I hope you understand" and that makes it look like I don't understand. Please stop. By the by, I realise what I said about "simple concepts" would come across quite rude so I apologise for that. [[User:05308|<font color="blue">Diamond</font>]] [[Lanturn (Pokémon)|<font color="yellow">Lanturn</font>]] [[User talk:05308|<font color="red">CodeName: 05308</font>]] 23:04, 18 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
:::I feel pretty safe in saying that "I hope you understand" doesn't usually mean literally understand the concepts; it usually means more like "I hope you understand where we're coming from (and can accept it)"... I'm not trying to belittle you, I'm trying to be polite. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 23:24, 18 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
::::Bureaucracy at its finest. ''Nothing'' goes ''anywhere'' without first being signed in triplicate, sent in, sent back, queried, lost, found, subjected to public inquiry, lost again, and finally buried in soft peat for three months and recycled as firelighters. This is honestly getting kinda ridiculous. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:43, 19 August 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Image ==<br />
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I removed the image because out of all the Sun&Moon capture episodes, this was the only one to have it. I thought that images were not suppose to go there.-- --[[User:Handmaiden 101|<span style="color:red">Handmaiden 101</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:Handmaiden 101|<span style="color:red">tAlk</span>]])''</small> 18:29, 6 May 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Cleanup ==<br />
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Noticed a few episodes I have created synopsis' for have received a cleanup requirement, any advice on how to clean it up, checked the manual but can't quite understand in relation to my synopsis'--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 15:04, 10 May 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Code of Conduct ==<br />
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Over the last several years, you've had many talk page message left by various staff members about following the Code of Conduct and remaining respectful in edit summaries. As you [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=List_of_Sun_%26_Moon_series_episodes&curid=217082&diff=2664255&oldid=2664243 demonstrated here] this message hasn't reached you. I understand you may disagree or have conflicts with other users, but behavior of this nature creates a very abrasive and non-inviting atmosphere on Bulbapedia. Please take 3 days off and when you return, make it an effort to be more conscious of our policies. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">--Pokemaster</span>]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">97</span>]]''''' 21:29, 7 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Conduct ==<br />
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In [[Special:Diff/2669087|your recent comment]] to Playerking, you appear to have tried to avoid directly insulting Playerking, but you quite failed. You did not at all need that line before the "PS". Attempting to disclaim it at the end doesn't make it "OK", it's still an insult. Be careful about how your passions sway you in the future. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 13:49, 20 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
:My apologies. I guess since I was having a sort of bad mood at the moment (walking outside in a rain and so forth) I wanted to vent that bad mood into that insult. But I fully admit, it was inappropriate, and I apologize. I tried to avoid being rude, but it seems I didn't quite make it all the way through. I promise I'll do my best to avoid this in the future. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 14:08, 20 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Edit Warring ==<br />
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Rather than [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Kiawe%27s_Marowak&diff=2670213&oldid=2670210 complaining about it in the edit summary], try using the talk pages to sort out issues. They are there for a reason. You've been here long enough to know not to edit war. Regarding the trivia, you're stretching the trivia too far to make it notable.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#F1912B">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#F6B775">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#5599CA">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#90BDDC">ire</span>]] 14:59, 22 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Talk pages ==<br />
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Rather than trying to sort out disagreements using the edit summaries, go to the user's talk page and discuss it there. Going back and forth in the edit summaries is a futile attempt and comes off as edit warring. Thank you.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#F1912B">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#F6B775">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#5599CA">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#90BDDC">ire</span>]] 03:36, 28 July 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Direct linking ==<br />
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I'm not gonna try to argue with you because it's clear you won't listen. But I just want to ask you this: what is the point of the staff ruling on something if you're just going to ignore the ruling and say you "don't care" about it? [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 16:29, 25 September 2017 (UTC)<br />
:Sorry, that's just how I can be when I'm in a grumpy. I know it doesn't justify anything, and I apologize. I just get irritated when I see redirect links being added on purpose. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 16:34, 25 September 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== DJ Leo ==<br />
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Were the Dugtrio's names the same in the Finnish dub as in the English? --[[User:Raltseye|<span style="color:#FF6464">R</span><span style="color:#11BB11">alts</span><span style="color:#6464FF">eye</span>]] [[User talk:Raltseye|prata med mej]] 15:30, 28 October 2017 (UTC)<br />
:Nope. They're the same as the Swedish ones. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 16:56, 28 October 2017 (UTC)<br />
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==Hey==<br />
Goes without saying, I'm glad that Bulbapedia is unlocked once more--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 09:58, 4 January 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Agreed. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 10:00, 4 January 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== hello ==<br />
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Hello, well, I'm new to the page and I wanted to know what is the error of my grammar, I do not see anything wrong, I just wanted to know what are the mistakes friend.<br />
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--[[User:Grizzlyring123|Grizzlyring123]] ([[User talk:Grizzlyring123|talk]]) 11:47, 7 January 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Sorry if this sounds harsh, but your grammar is unsuitable for Bulbapedia's standards. Not using big capital letters when needed is just one of your many problems. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:51, 8 January 2018 (UTC)<br />
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Well, I'm sorry, my English is not so good, but I can fix it<br />
--[[User:Grizzlyring123|Grizzlyring123]] ([[User talk:Grizzlyring123|talk]]) 11:47, 7 January 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Help please ==<br />
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I would like to be able to edit my profile, but since I am a user I can not do it and it is frustrating. How can I change user to another rank? I want to edit my profile.<br />
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I've seen other people if they can<br />
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--Grizzlyring123 (talk) 12:16, 8 January 2018 (UTC)<br />
:If you want to edit your user page, just click the red link on your user name. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 06:18, 8 January 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Finnish name ==<br />
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I'm sort of iffy on this one, could you check if it adds up? [[Special:diff/2734483]] --[[User:Raltseye|<span style="color:#FF6464">R</span><span style="color:#11BB11">alts</span><span style="color:#6464FF">eye</span>]] [[User talk:Raltseye|prata med mej]] 13:11, 22 January 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Yeah, that wasn't right at all. Thanks for asking. Also, it's just a direct translation of "Repel" instead of "Max Repel", so I took the liberty of removing it from that page. If you wish for me to add the correct translation to [[Repel]]'s page, I can gladly do that. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 14:05, 22 January 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Yeah, why not? The Swedish and Danish are litterally both just "Insect spray" anyway, I'll move them too. --[[User:Raltseye|<span style="color:#FF6464">R</span><span style="color:#11BB11">alts</span><span style="color:#6464FF">eye</span>]] [[User talk:Raltseye|prata med mej]] 16:15, 22 January 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Update Snap Articuno ==<br />
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Hi,<br />
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https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Articuno_(Fossil_2)&diff=0&oldid=2737190<br />
The information on the trivia section is incorrect as the card will have the SNAP writing on the bottom as seen on a copy I have recently purchase from Japan - https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/m224480649<br />
This is misinformation from the old pokemon book which had the wrong scans inside it which didnt have the writing on 3 of the card Squirtle, Charmander and Articuno. I had purchased a squirtle and charmander S~nap promo and forwarded scans for you to update a couple months back and will do the same once the articuno is in my hands. Il send the scans through the discord server as last time.<br />
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https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:CharmanderSnapBestPhotoContest.jpg /https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:SquirtleSnapBestPhotoContest.jpg As you can see I provided the scans for both of the updated images.<br />
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Any problems and information you require just let me know.<br />
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[[User:Onlycollectables|Onlycollectables]] ([[User talk:Onlycollectables|talk]]) 12:37, 29 January 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Edit summaries ==<br />
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Could you please stop with the semi-aggressive edit summaries, like the "Please" and "No, no, no" that you commonly do. If you have a problem with someone's reading and writing skills, you can go to the user's talk page and correct them on their errors. Do understand that there are some users who first language is not English, so errors are bound to appear. Thank you.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#F1912B">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#F6B775">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#5599CA">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#90BDDC">ire</span>]] 04:20, 16 February 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Bone Rush edit ==<br />
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I apologize, I was looking at the wrong section. That said, I think the 'Incomplete' tag belongs in the 'In other generations' section, as that is where the Gen VI image is missing from {{unsigned|Bg samm}}<br />
:I can understand that. Just be careful not to make this kind of mistakes in the future. Also, don't forget to sign your comments on talk pages. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:03, 2 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Item availability ==<br />
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I'd argue that since Po Town is only accessible in Sun, Moon, Ultra Sun, and Ultra Moon(as of right now), someone would know that an item is available in all those versions without it having to be stated outright.--[[User:Voltdetector|Voltdetector]] ([[User talk:Voltdetector|talk]]) 13:08, 17 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I was merely trying to avoid confusion, so that people don't mistake that the note saying "USUM" would be referring to ''both'' items, instead of just the latter. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 13:20, 17 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
::You could simply put the Team Skull Cap first, I feel that could resolve the problem just as well.--[[User:Voltdetector|Voltdetector]] ([[User talk:Voltdetector|talk]]) 03:04, 18 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Platinum's Froslass ==<br />
Do you want [[User:FinnishPokéFan92/Platinum's Froslass]] to be mainspaced? If so ask [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] to do it. I'll also stop creating redirect links. [[User:Reinhartmax|Reinhartmax]] ([[User talk:Reinhartmax|talk]]) 11:53, 20 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Thanks. I'll do so. And thanks for hearing me out. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 11:56, 20 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Do you plan on asking him anytime soon? [[User:Reinhartmax|Reinhartmax]] ([[User talk:Reinhartmax|talk]]) 18:57, 25 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::I meant to ask during the weekend, but forgot. I'll get to it at some point, I haven't forgotten about it. Don't worry. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:03, 26 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Undoing linking edits ==<br />
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We were talking about this before, and as far as I'm concerned, my conclusion was to respect you and your position even though I don't really understand all of it. And because you do have a point that, at any specific point in time, {{template|DL}}s are typically better than redirect links, I've refrained from going to any page in order to only change links there when I have no intention to create the item article(s) myself soonish. It's just a matter of time, though, since all (regular) items are going to receive independent articles in the near future (hopefully). Not sure if you knew this, but now you do, please be aware that I don't really see the point in changing links to future articles back to DLs as adamantly as you have done. That's essentially two extra edits (and I'm trying to minimize edits), and more future work.<br />
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To answer [[Special:Diff/2754146|your specific question]]: I've asked a staff member who has the appropriate powers to mainspace articles on both "Bottle Cap" and "Gold Bottle Cap" that already exist in the userspace. You will see my motivation when you think of what would happen if these are mainspaced ''before'' the links are changed: text that says "Gold Bottle Cap" would link to a page that does not cover "Gold Bottle Cap", and that's to be avoided. (And I didn't look for pages with only <code><nowiki>{{DL|Bottle Cap|Bottle Cap}}</nowiki></code> but without <code><nowiki>{{DL|Bottle Cap|Gold Bottle Cap}}</nowiki></code>, because the first one technically ''can'' be changed later, which I understand you prefer.)<br />
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So, please, try to not only see your position, and try to avoid edit wars, for I can assure you I try to do the same. If any of ''my'' edits are of serious concern, I will probably have a reason, and some others probably have, too. And before anything else, please don't just undo, and don't undo and ask for clarification in the edit summary; I know you know where my talk page is. Thanks! [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 16:33, 20 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
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:I've had some (kinda sorta) paperwork to do today, so I'm going to be brief here: I apologize for my apparent selfishness. It's a trait I have that is not intentional, and I didn't mean to offend you. I understand now. Thanks for explaining. (PS. I had kinda already forgotten about this whole thing already, in fact, so this came just a little bit out of the blue.) --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 16:39, 20 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
::You're welcome, and thanks for understanding. (I wasn't offended anyway, there's no hard feelings.) [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 16:45, 20 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Good. No hard feelings on either side. Let's hope you'll get those item pages done soon. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 16:48, 20 March 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Violet City ==<br />
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Why are you continually undoing changes that make the page more accurate and precise? Retrogression = Evil, are you trying to be evil?<br />
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[[User:Monsterhart|monsterhart]] ([[User talk:Monsterhart|talk]]) 09:54, 5 April 2018 (PT)<br />
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In the future if you notice a formatting error in 1 part of a multipart edit where the other part(s) are simply corrections to text, edit the page and fix the formatting of that one part. Don't just undo the entire edit, leave it alone and let someone else fix it if you don't feel like fixing the mistake properly. I eventually figured out the mistake and fixed it myself anyway. <br />
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[[User:Monsterhart|monsterhart]] ([[User talk:Monsterhart|talk]]) 10:57, 5 April 2018 (PT)<br />
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:1) Whoa! That's a bit too much. There's no reason to be rude. 2) Except that you didn't. You only added one item instead of the complete Rock Smash item list. However, I ''do'' thank you for noticing that Violet City had a smashable rock which Bulbapedia had forgotten to mention. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 06:20, 6 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
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::1) Why didn’t you answer my question? How is it too much to ask if your intention is to hurt the website rather than improve it? And is it considered rude to ask someones intentions now? Where I’m from asking someones intentions is how issues are resolved and thus is seen as a sign of maturity, not rudeness. <br />
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::2) Except that I did, which you know because in your most recent edit in order to worsen the grammar you edited the same thing which was the other thing I had edited. I changed it from “On the grey island...” to “In the upper left of the grey island...” which I made to improve the website after spending a significant amount of time searching the entire island and it being in the last place I looked. You were undoing this the entire time too, and it shows you what has been changed so I don’t understand how you could have actually missed it and assume you are just lying for some reason... Further more you changed it to “On the upper left side of the small grey island...” which adds an unnecessary word (more reading without improved clarity is a detriment) and changes a correct word to an incorrect one. Though in your defense that is a common mistake for ESL learners, at least I’m assuming Finnish is your first language. <br />
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::So why would you undo that? In my second message and on I then knew you were undoing it because of the rock smash thing but I didn’t know that at the time I wrote the first message. Also I’ve played HG twice and SS once and all 3 times I found a Heart Scale in that exact rock, so I assumed it was a permanent fixture rather than just a random event. <br />
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::So the only reason I was able to imagine that you would be undoing my post is because you wanted the website to not progress, but instead of just reporting you I did the mature thing in recognizing that it could be for some practical reason I was unable to imagine and asked you in the most concise way I could think of (because people on the internet vehemently insist on conciseness 99.9% of the time) if what I thought was truly the case or if you had some other reason for it. Which it turns out you did have a good reason, at least for part of it. You’ve yet to give me a good reason for why you were also undoing my clarity change for that specific item though.<br />
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::[[User:Monsterhart|monsterhart]] ([[User talk:Monsterhart|talk]]) 10:27, 6 April 2018 (PT)<br />
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:::I'll be as brief as possible with my answer: I'm not trying to be evil or prevent this site from progressing, quite the opposite, in fact. I'm merely trying to keep the quality as close to Bulbapedia's standards as possible. And you can see that your most recent edit on the page was reversed by one of the higher-ranking members of this site, meaning that you may have to broaden your views on how to improve this site. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 17:47, 6 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
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::::He clearly did that to be offensive. He was flaunting his authority in order to punish me for “attacking” you (as he stated on my talk page) even though I clearly did not do that. Such a thing is an abuse of power and does not mean that I was wrong about this.<br />
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::::Edit: However I do feel that the situation on the Violet City page between the two of us is more or less resolved, and no longer feel the need to further discuss it with you. If you really were offended by the wording of my initial question I apologize, that was not my intention. My intention was to express my perspective on your actions and give you the opportunity to present an alternative possibility, so as to lead to the resolution of the “undo war” between us which was indeed the result. <br />
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::::[[User:Monsterhart|monsterhart]] ([[User talk:Monsterhart|talk]]) 11:44, 6 April 2018 (PT)<br />
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== SM052 Complaint ==<br />
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"Not good enough for Bulbapedia's standards"? Dude, I left that incomplete stub tag there for a reason. The plot was still incomplete. I was gonna go back to add more and you went and deleted it entirely, all because it's not good enough for Bulbapedia's standards? How could the plot I put in, which was incomplete as the stub stated, be not good enough for Bulbapedia's standards? You have to be more specific than that, or do you insist the plot remains blank until its fully complete? You sir, have no disrespect for those who were just trying to help. Now thanks to you, I lost motivation to work on that page. [[User:Char89|Char89]] ([[User talk:Char89|talk]]) 05:16, 21 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Whoa! No need to be aggressive! Just leaving the synopsis temporarily incomplete wasn't the problem. (I've done some synopsises in bits myself, too.) The problem was your grammar. ''That'' was the thing I felt wasn't up to code. Sorry. I know you want to help, but if your help isn't good enough, it will just take other users' time in fixing it. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:21, 21 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
::My grammar? You mean to tell me, the plot I've written on that page was deleted because of my grammar? What are you, an English teacher? What the heck's wrong with my grammar that causes you to delete it? And don't think I don't notice the other complaints you've been receiving. I've seen users upset with you because you delete their edits because of "Bulbapedia's standards." If it violates the standards, then let the admins handle it. You're making a bad reputation for yourself by being the grammar nazi here. I was only trying to contribute to the wiki, but instead you undo my edit saying my grammar is bad. What a waste of my time. Listen, if you don't stop deleting pages because it doesn't meet the standards, sooner or later someone will report you to the admin. You want to talk grammar, here's something. "Synopsises" is not even a real word. [[User:Char89|Char89]] ([[User talk:Char89|talk]]) 05:39, 21 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Core Series games Quotes ==<br />
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I'm currently doing a overhaul of all the quotes for NPCs for all core series games from Kanto to Alola. For Colress, the line for Route 8 after becoming the Champion "Genesect is a..." only happens when a player selects "I don't", and not for "I do!". And last time, we have decided against bold-ing the words in a "scream" speech balloon. As for the linking of references to other characters or items, I'll have to ask if we are doing the linking or not (well, I predict they'll say it doesn't matter). If yes, I'll have to apply this to all other NPCs. If not, all links references will be removed. Cheers! — '''[[User:Ruixiang95|<span style="color:#1E90FF;">Ruixiang</span>]][[User talk:Ruixiang95|<span style="color:#4B0082;">95</span>]]''' 08:50, 30 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Sorry. I just got a little carried away. I can easily get arrogant towards people who are doing stuff I at first glance deem wrong. I apologize. It's a characteristic of mine that needs some SERIOUS work. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 09:31, 30 April 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Re: {{t|Dragon}} trivia. ==<br />
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Another page ''used to'' have trivia like that, but not anymore. Also, if we say that Dragon has been combined with every type except Bug, shouldn't we say Grass has been combined with every type except Fire? (We say that Water and Flying have been combined with every type in their lists of Pokémon). [[User:Dinosauramiable|Dinosauramiable]] ([[User talk:Dinosauramiable|talk]]) 12:15, 11 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
:If that fact is indeed true, I see why not. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 12:18, 11 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
It's already listed there. [[User:Dinosauramiable|Dinosauramiable]] ([[User talk:Dinosauramiable|talk]]) 20:13, 11 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== File name mistake on the Archives ==<br />
I accidentally uploaded a file to "BW076 original trailer.png" when I meant to put "SM076 original trailer.png." Are you able to fix it, please? [[User:The Great Butler|The Great Butler]] ([[User talk:The Great Butler|talk]]) 04:40, 25 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I'd love to help you, but I can't. Only admins are allowed to move image file names. Ask one of them if they could help. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 04:57, 25 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
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==Adding legendary stats==<br />
I am planning to add the stats of the legendary Pokémon encounters that are uncatchable (eg. fused Kyurem, fused Necrozma, Ultra Necrozma). [[User:Jskylinegtr|Jskylinegtr]] ([[User talk:Jskylinegtr|talk]]) 05:43, 26 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Sorry, but the higher-ups have said no to this kind of stuff before and now. Talk with them if you want to. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:50, 26 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Poke ball on Route 104 ==<br />
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It requires going through a certain section of Petalburg Woods, and doesn't that section require cut? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 19:39, 26 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I checked it, and it doesn't. Next time, please check stuff like this before making an edit. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 03:38, 27 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
::You're right. Sorry. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 04:05, 27 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Shadow Hold ==<br />
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Why did you delete my edit? [[Shadow Hold]] IS similar to [[Spirit Shackle]] in the way it prevents opponents from switching out.<br />
:All they have in common is that they trap the opposing Pokémon. That's it. Shadow Hold doesn't even do damage like Spirit Shackle. Besides, they were released four Generations apart. PS. Please use link templates to avoid redirect links. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 06:17, 30 May 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Protecting moves ==<br />
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Why did you delete my edits on Protecting moves failing? If both mons use Protect in the same turn, then the move for the mon that protects last fails. I described this and, instead of fixing it yourself because I have bad grammar or something, you deleted it; your reasoning was that it "Needs a bit of adjusting... " Here is a link to why that information is important in battle: https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7randombattle-767832306 (skip to turn 19). {{unsigned|Dawkamist}}<br />
:It's not that I don't believe the validity of your information. I just think you didn't do those edits properly, like placing the text in improper places, and not putting links where they should be. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 04:42, 28 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Unique moves ==<br />
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The point of not presuming a move is for people not to presume they know best. You may think this or that case is COMPLETELY obvious, but if we allow one person to get by because something is "obvious", that just leaves room for someone else to think they know best too and complain if it was okay for someone else but not them. The whole point is to just cut out ANY possibility for such arguments by ONLY acknowledging moves that have been explicitly named or (at least tentatively) explicitly approved otherwise.<br />
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Mind Blown has not been approved. You cannot assume that it should be.<br />
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It may be very possible that Mind Blown will be approved, but that's not ''your'' decision. Ask. Ask anyone on staff. Then we'll decide what's warranted.<br />
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[[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 13:48, 29 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Clean Up messages ==<br />
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Hi FinnishPokéFan92,<br />
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I've noticed you have placed several clean up messages on a few of the plot summaries that I have posted. While other users have cleaned up several other Sun and Moon episode plots, I've noticed that SM063 and SM068 are yet to be cleaned up, as well as an earlier alert posted on Morty's Gengar. It would be of great assistance if you can point out what glaring issues that are required to be cleaned up, I'm afraid that I cannot see any issues, and maybe other users cannot either. Plus the feedback would also help me for my future edits going forward.<br />
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Also thank you for the work you have been doing on various associated anime pages. I appreciated the note of feedback on the Cinnabar Island page as it allowed me to put the right information on the right pages.[[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 14:37, 29 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
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Thanks for the compliment!<br><br />
The thing is, I just find that the language in some synopsises is kinda clunky and does not flow too well. I would want to help fixing them, but, to be perfectly blunt, I don't usually have the patience or attention span required for that kind of thing. Sorry. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 16:08, 29 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
:: Flow - that gives me some direction to follow. Thanks [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 16:43, 29 June 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== SM081 ==<br />
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I was wondering why you removed the Battle Royal part from the major events. I would think a battle like that would be important enough. {{unsigned|Rahl}}<br />
:I don't see it being as important to the overall plot of the series as Ash's previous matches with the Masked Royal. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 19:05, 5 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Stub Removal ==<br />
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Hi FinnishPokéFan92,<br />
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I and GrammarFreak01 have been busy editing several stub pages in the hope of having them be removed from the stub list. I thought it was best that a third party, like yourself, do the evaluation and hopefully the removal of such messages? Or is there someone else who is in charge of such a procedure? [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 04:15, 9 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Oh? Was supposed to be decided by somebody else? Sorry. I didn't know. I just figured that those pages seemed long enough to not be considered stubs anymore. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 04:19, 9 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:: I'm afraid they hadn't been evaluated yet. Here are the pages: <br />
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*[[Absentia Natural Park]]<br />
*[[Ephraim's parents]]<br />
*[[Alex's grandfather]]<br />
*[[Angus]]<br />
*[[Corina]]<br />
*[[Betty]]<br />
*[[Delbert]]<br />
*[[Gail]]<br />
*[[Luna Carson]]<br />
*[[cliff]]<br />
*[[Kingdom of the Vale]]<br />
*[[Galea]]<br />
*[[Fitzwilliam]]<br />
*[[Connally]]<br />
*[[Edmund]]<br />
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Thanks [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 04:29, 9 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::I'm sorry, but I really didn't need that list. I didn't even ask for it. I merely apologized for not knowing that the removal of the "stub" template apparently requires a third party decision (if that indeed is the case, because I've never even heard of it before). In either case, that list is completely unnecessary for me. Just so that you know. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 04:51, 9 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::I'd misinterpreted your earlier comment. And I am not aware of needing a third party to remove stubs, I just assumed that may be the case, apologies for the confusion.[[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 04:57, 9 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::Good. So no harm done. Apology accepted. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:08, 9 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::I found information on the stub removal policy. It clarified that if a page was filled with enough information the stub alert could be deleted. For some other features like voice actor's or a new image an incomplete alert could be placed instead. [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 06:01, 9 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
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I think all you need to do to remove stubs is to add verifiable information to it that might've been originally missing. That's all. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 08:06, 9 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Route 112 trivia ==<br />
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When someone adds trivia that's good but has bad grammar, you're supposed to correct the grammar, right? Not delete it completely? Anyway, what was wrong with my trivium? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 20:26, 17 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:The grammar wasn't up to code, the title was done the wrong way... I admit. It was late and I simply didn't feel up to just fixing it, so I took the easier route. But whatever the case, it wasn't up to code. The piece of trivia itself may very well have been valid, but the way you tried to add it to the page was inadequate. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 04:33, 18 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
::I re-added it. Is it better now? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 05:06, 18 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Almost. The title was a bit off, but I fixed it. Now it should be fine. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:16, 18 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::Thanks for not deleting it this time. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 05:31, 18 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::The mistakes were much more easier to fix up and I wasn't as tired as before, so it was no problem. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:39, 18 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Route 5 Cut link ==<br />
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I'm trying my best, but I can't for the life of me think of any good reason to remove a link to {{m|Cut}} on the [[Kalos Route 5]] page. Is there some Bulbapedia policy that discourages linking to moves in that context? Or one that encourages scouring page histories to undo any revision that didn't add ''enough'' to the article? I was under the impression that minor edits were allowed. And if it were up to me, I'd say the only revisions that should be undone are ones that make an article worse. — [[User:Randomwaffle23|Randomwaffle23]] ([[User talk:Randomwaffle23|talk]]) 02:20, 23 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Oh, minor edits are allowed. We just don't tend to add links to Trainer template divider titles. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 06:31, 23 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Why? — [[User:Randomwaffle23|Randomwaffle23]] ([[User talk:Randomwaffle23|talk]]) 14:31, 23 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::Why not? Besides, the links to those moves also exist elsewhere on the page. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 16:17, 23 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::"Why not?" Because links can be helpful, that's why we have them. And I really, truly doubt that duplicating links is the issue, because if it were, we wouldn't allow [[Kalos Route 18#West of the river|fifty-one duplicate links in a single table]]. The most relevant portion of the [[Bulbapedia:Manual of style#Article titles|manual of style]] recommends to "only link to an article once within a given portion of text". I assume a portion of text means a paragraph, bullet point, table cell, or the like, not a whole article. "''Instances further apart may be linked to more than once.''" (The [[wp:Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Linking#Repeated links|corresponding Wikipedia policy]] is that "a link may be repeated in infoboxes, ''tables'', […] and at the first occurrence after the lead.")<br />
::::The question you should ask yourself when undoing an edit is, ''How did this edit make the article worse?'' You need a better answer than "why not". — [[User:Randomwaffle23|Randomwaffle23]] ([[User talk:Randomwaffle23|talk]]) 17:24, 23 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::Whoa! You were more versed in this than I would've guessed. I'll be honest with you, I just saw that your edit was poorly made (as well as unnecessary for the reasons I gave above), so I deleted it. Sorry. But I still stand by my point: there's no need for it. It's perfectly fine to have repeated move links in the item templates and such, but there's no need to start adding move links to where they have never existed, such as the Trainer template divider titles. So may I please ask you to let this go? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 17:31, 23 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::I'm curious what you mean when you say the edit was "poorly made". I took care to include an HTML span tag to make sure the link stayed white instead of turning blue, since blue would've looked poor on the dark background. (The <nowiki>{{m|Cut}}</nowiki> template doesn't allow tags like that, which is why I didn't use it.) The only way someone would even have noticed the link is if they wanted to click it, or if they were scouring the page history.<br />
::::::At this point don't really care anymore whether the thing's linked or not. I'm not gonna re-link it. I just want to convince you not to undo any more people's contributions without a better reason than "because I personally wouldn't have bothered making this edit". Can we agree to that? — [[User:Randomwaffle23|Randomwaffle23]] ([[User talk:Randomwaffle23|talk]]) 18:50, 23 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::Hey, I swear that has NEVER been my (main) reason for undoing edits. Most of the time, there hs been a very good reason for it, only in a small minority have I done it for personal disagreement. Also, I recommend you learn to use the {{template|color}} and {{template|color2}} templates. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 19:02, 23 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::If that's not the reason, then what is? I can't think what the difference might be between an "unnecessary" edit and one that's not worth bothering to make. And if it's because I didn't use the template, why would you undo rather than improve? Adding {{template|color2}} is easy. I didn't know about the template, but you did, and that's why wikis are collaborative.<br />
::::::::[[wp:Help:Reverting#Before reverting|Undoing a good-faith edit is invalidating someone's attempt to help the wiki,]] which discourages them from contributing in the future. It should be done ''only'' when there's no feasible way to improve their contribution instead. — [[User:Randomwaffle23|Randomwaffle23]] ([[User talk:Randomwaffle23|talk]]) 21:09, 23 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::Geez! Based on your edit that I undid, I jumped to conclusions and assumed you were just a new user who didn't know their stuff, but clearly I was wrong! I'm sorry. Also, I'm not defending those edits that I've done for personal disagreements rather than solid reasons. I was being kinda stupid at those times. And hey, I hope those new templates will come in handy for you! --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:41, 24 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== "That is only if we have more Team Skull Grunts than them" ==<br />
No it isn't. Look at BW114 and SM025's pages. It's listed because they're a part of the collection of Grunts. [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]]) 14:50, 26 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Thanks for pointing those out. I fixed them now. That is only used if more than the named Grunts appear in an episode. Otherwise, that's misleading. And it applies to other groups of people as well. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 15:49, 26 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== SM083 ==<br />
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Hi,<br />
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Just saw the large undoing, which wasn't required.<br />
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I was about to apologize, and have also just re-checked you edits but they are reading in unnecessary information and grammatical errors that my edition had previously fixed. The reason for the drastic changes was largely due words ending in -ing, which are typically avoided to give the sentences more of an present tense than sounding like you are in midst of an action. And I noticed a few of the links were missing. Though I must commend you on the detail, an edit summary with over 10,000 bytes usually indicates an action packed episode and I feel you were able to capture that. I apologize for the sudden changes, but saw that they were needed. I wouldn't view the changes as a complete re-write, as I didn't have to add anything to the actual plot, it was literally just editing the sentences which in some were sometimes too long (I make the same error as well).[[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 11:35, 28 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I haven't had time and currently don't have time to sort out who's in the right or in the wrong here but I do know you both need to stop edit warring. It accomplishes nothing, so talk it out here or on the article's talk page. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 11:50, 28 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
::To clarify the situation, FinnishPokeFan92 became overwhelmed with all of my changes which were grammar based and undid everything by republished his old edition. I later found out and re-added them, with some of his later ones in mind as the same issues had persisted from earlier.[[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 11:56, 28 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::I had actually only ''mostly'' undone your edit earlier today, modifying some of the parts you had added to better fit into the synopsis, while readding some stuff that I feel was unnecessarily removed or removing some overly detailed parts. GrammarFreak01 had actually already redone a lot of your edits when I plastered my own version on top of their version, but they took it well. Let's be honest here: your intentions were good, but you also ended up adding a lot of new errors in the process, replacing the mistakes that were already being fixed. You should try just fixing the mistakes instead of rewriting the entire synopsis, unless the mistakes simply are that extensive. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 12:18, 28 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::: I streamlined the plot to reduce some of the sentence lengths and also some of the unnecessary details such as characters asking questions. GrammarFreak01 made some structural changes which were incorporated and I re-added some of your edits, prior to me reading the edited plot summary that I had earlier done as yes, there were in fact a few wrong words used by me. The sentences that were re-written was because the tense was wrong (words ending in -ing are usually avoided, but were throughout the old edition), not the information. And some words don't work well in the same sentence with just a change of tense, so a sentence has to be reconfigured to account for that.[[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 12:32, 28 July 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::Please note that I saw your re added segments to the plot line, despite them having been removed for good reasons. I will not be making any further changes despite my previously outlined reasons for the deletions.<br />
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:::::Now my real issue is with your snide comments on the SM084 and SM085 pages and again leaving another useless "not up to standards" template. Whether those are of a personal nature or not, please note that actual feedback for both myself and for PKMN Trainer Ryan who added the respective plots is required to ensure such errors do not occur again and that either the users in question or another user can rectify them. Do not continue this same conduct as it is a cause for friction and does not aid anyone or even the site, as you are unwilling to make the necessary changes yourself, in becoming better [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 09:05, 16 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::Firstly: what added segments are you referring to?<br />
::::::Secondly: those templates are not "useless". Those synopsises are in a genuine need of improvement, no matter who made them. True, maybe I should notify the users who made said synopsises directly on their talk pages, but I don't see that I did anything wrong by adding those cleanup templates. Also, your words come off as unnecessarily rude and rather self-important. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 09:33, 16 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::PardescanSlowbro is right, just adding a cleanup template with a frustrated edit summary helps no one, especially in 1) recent contributions (as opposed to old/low traffic pages), 2) such large contributions, and 3) contributions by regular editors.<br />
:::::::You should try to always make your edit summaries useful if you're going to put anything there. If people are going to contribute regularly, it's much better to help them. More--and more experienced--people on Bulbapedia is a good thing. FYI I read at least the first paragraph of SM 84 and 85 and there's nothing that ABSOLUTELY needs improvement to my eye. (And FWIW, don't worry about telling ME what all the problems are here; I don't need it, they do.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 17:58, 16 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::SM085 I can somewhat agree with, but if you seriously aren't seeing anything wrong with SM084's synopsis... I'm actually inclined to just deleting said synopsis so that it can be rewritten from the ground up later. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 07:23, 17 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Paintings depicting Pokémon ==<br />
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As noted in the [[Bulbapedia:Manual of style/Anime|Manual of Style for anime articles]], statues, posters, and other man made object depicting Pokémon do not count as appearances. Paintings fall under man made objects.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 11:42, 2 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Stealing items from [[Iris]] ==<br />
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It's possible to steal the Life Orb from Iris' {{tt|Druddigon|All battles except the rematches in Challenge Mode}} or {{tt|Salamence|Rematch in Challenge Mode}}.<br />
[[User:TheICTLiker4|TheICTLiker4]] ([[User talk:TheICTLiker4|talk]]) 05:57, 5 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:It is. However, you can't just keep the item after the battle, so it doesn't count. Permanently stealing items from NPC Pokémon has been impossible since [[Generation IV]]. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:59, 5 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== mt moon items ==<br />
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i was just being more specific. dome and helix are the actual fossils and it seems better than just fossils, so why not? -[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 02:21, 15 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:You don't have to be ''too'' specific. They're listed right there on the same list. And about the Super Nerd, he didn't have a name in Generation I, so simply referring him to as "Super Nerd" in the item location description applies to all Generations where he's present. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 06:05, 15 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
::but dome and helix fossils link to regular fossils so fossils are just another click away. me personally i treat each item as a separate line thats why they all have links so i think being more specific is only beneficial. i agree with the super nerd tho. -[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 17:38, 15 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::The paired Fossil articles are planned to be split into their articles, plus I don't think repeated links would look good. Also, why aren't you using any capital letters? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 17:55, 15 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::even if they are being planned to split, we can still link to both when that time comes. and when u say repeating links i see team rocket grunt repeated a million times, which seems fine to me. too lazy to use shift. -[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 21:48, 15 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::Whatever. And I meant repeating links in the item list location descriptions. Also, being too lazy to use shift... Wow. Just, wow. It's honestly not that hard. Don't make yourself look ridiculously lazy, please. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:02, 16 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::so by whatever can i take it i can change the link to dome and helix fossils? :) yeah i also meant repeating links in the item list. i see rocket grunt links a million times there. -[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 21:59, 16 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::Go ahead. I'll make adjustments if I see it necessary, but I'll keep this conversation in mind while doing so. PS. Please start using big capital letters. It's honestly not that hard. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 07:23, 17 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== repeated links ==<br />
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u seem to have a problem with repeated links; however if i go to mt moon items section i can see a team rocket grunt link over and over. so what's the problem? -[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 19:27, 23 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:The problem is that you shouldn't ''purposefully'' add repeated links. And removing them is always a plus. Plus, repeated Trainer class links on Trainer lists are a bit different case than repeated links in the item descriptions. PS. Please start using big capital letters when necessary. You're making yourself look lazy by not doing it. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 20:53, 23 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== {{t|Fairy}} type vs. {{type|Fairy}} ==<br />
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What's the difference supposed to be between those two? When am I supposed to use {{t|Fairy}} type and when am I supposed to use {{type|Fairy}}? I find this very confusing. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 00:26, 24 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:The difference is that "X-type" is an adjective, while "X type" is a noun. A good mnemonic is that "X-type" is always followed by a word, like "Sylveon is a Fairy-type Pokémon", but "X type" is not, like "Sylveon is a Fairy type". I hope that clears it up for you. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 06:09, 24 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Yeah, I think I get it now. Thanks. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 07:27, 24 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
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==Redirect==<br />
Don't suppose you know how we can redirect links like Lusamine's Cleffa and Lusamine's Clefairy to [[Lusamine's Clefable]]?--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 19:43, 25 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
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:I think I just took care of that. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 21:11, 25 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
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::It's really simple, actually. Just make a page with the redirect title, write <nowiki>#REDIRECT</nowiki>, and add the link to the page you want the redirect to lead to after that. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 08:48, 26 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Regarding Playerking ==<br />
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Hey, I just want to point out that edit summaries like [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Air_Slash_(move)&diff=2841270&oldid=2841250 these] can be considered rude. It's fine to have disagreements with another user, but to tell them to be quiet isn't the way to solve those disagreements. Preferably, discuss it with Playerking on a suitable talk page.<br />
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Besides that, may I ask what your motivation is for adding several moves, such as Flash Cannon for Nebby and Air Slash? I haven't seen the episode yet, but you should know by now that Bulbapedia is built on proof, especially when it comes to moves being used. If they weren't called out on screen, please wait until they are in another episode or wait for the closed captioning. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 14:33, 30 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Okay, I admit that I may have been a bit rude, but those moves have exactly same animations as we've already seen in the anime. Air Slash is even used in this very same episode. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 15:01, 30 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Route 206 items ==<br />
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Why did you undo my edit? A bunch of other location pages, like Mt. Coronet, have multiple item tables. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 19:55, 31 August 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Yes, your edit was valid. There were just a couple of errors I noticed. 1) Leave a space in between the templates. 2) You missed a couple of items that should've been under the bridge. I also felt a bit grumpy yesterday, so I didn't feel like fixing your edit, so I instead went the lazy route and undid it entirely. Don't worry. I can put it the proper way to satisfy us both now. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 06:07, 1 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Okay thanks. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 16:27, 1 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Anime move mistakes ==<br />
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I am hereby informing you that, due to continued and widespread failure to follow the anime move policy, I will be instituting a '''3 strikes policy''' for anime moves. If a user adds a move that should not be added, they get a strike. If they make another mistake when they have 3 strikes, they will receive a block. This applies to you as soon as this is posted. (I.e., you are currently at 0 strikes.)<br />
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I will attempt to reiterate the anime move policy here so that it as simple as possible to follow:<br />
* If a move is explicitly commanded, identified by a character after the fact, or identified by closed captions, it can be added.<br />
* If the move is on [[User:Force Fire/List of moves with unique animations]], it can be added.<br />
In no other circumstances should a move be added. If you cannot testify that the above conditions were met ''when you added a move'', you will receive a strike. If you feel that a move ''should'' be acknowledged, please feel free to bring it up to me or any {{bp|staff}} member.<br />
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[[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:03, 5 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:I'm going to give you 24 hours to explain how [[Special:Diff/2850812|this reversion]] meets the criteria outlined above. If you cannot, you will gain a strike. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:19, 20 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Okay, maybe it doesn't, but honestly, you just aren't using common sense! You are actively removing valid information by saying that since it wasn't stated out loud, it doesn't count. This wasn't an issue at one point in Bulbapedia's history, so why is it now? '''Why?!''' There was a time when we weren't restricted by rules as unnecessarily strict as these! You are actively making Bulbapedia '''lie''' to people by removing information that even '''they''' can see is true and valid! Honestly, if there is uncertainty about a move's identity, then '''discuss''' about it! Don't '''remove''' it!<br />
::Also, like I said in the edit summary, Nebby's attack '''was''' Sunsteel Strike, since it's required to use Searing Sunraze Smash, which it had used in the previous episode. "Glowing headbutt"? Are you serious?! The animation even looks identical to the one in the games in the later appearance! I don't want to consider you as a narrow-minded or stupid person, so please, don't act like one! I'm only trying to help Bulbapedia from hurting itself! --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 06:23, 20 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::PS. Sorry about my rudeness there. I'm just really passionate about this subject. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 08:39, 20 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::''"Why is it [an issue] now?"'' Because of things like finding out someone made a wrong guess with Air Slash or Psycho Cut or whatever.<br />
:::You say, ''"if there is uncertainty about a move's identity, then '''discuss''' about it!"'' A number of people one way or another missed the chance...[[Talk:Sunsteel Strike (move)#SM053]]. In fact, I ''was'' half prepared to remove it, but I decided instead to leave that question on the talk page. Then I forgot for a while and when I remembered again I was disappointed to notice it still hadn't gotten any response. Besides which, the same goes for you: '''discuss''' it. Stop reverting just because you're "sure". Stop reverting without any new insights. I don't like to pull the authority card, but stop reverting staff just because you don't like it. '''Discuss'''. This here is important: I DO NOT say that we are hostile to all of your wants. But I, for one, just want some ''order''. We never said that people can just assume&mdash;in one place or another, we have explicitly said that's what we don't want. But I've also asked you all to ask someone on staff, and I really can't think of one time where that was anyone's first reaction. Can you see how that just gets frustrating, when I keep trying to push that? That's why I went to zero tolerance with these strikes.<br />
:::DISCUSS. We/I am here to listen. You may be very reasonable, and we may find a way to accomodate you. But it doesn't happen if you won't talk first. (Editing first will get you strikes.)<br />
:::So... You're maintaining that Nebby used Sunsteel Strike. Just to be sure we can talk about the same thing reliably, please...well, please just respond to [[Talk:Sunsteel Strike (move)#SM053]] as requested there. We'll figure it out there.<br />
:::Since you have not been able to meet the criteria clearly outlined above...<br />
:::You are at 1 strike. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 10:40, 20 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::I left the response. Again, sorry for my rudeness. I can be rude when I get frustrated, even on authority figures, because in those cases, my mindset basically becomes: "Oh, so this authority figure thinks I can't say something against their opinion? Just watch me!" I know it's not right or polite in the slightest, so, again, I apologise. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 10:59, 20 September 2018 (UTC) PS. I had actually completely forgotten about this strike system until now. That's what tends to happen with me with things that I haven't been reminded of enough.<br />
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You're super bringing this on yourself... I'm thinking that if you haven't learned so far (and with so little time passed as well in this recent case), then I'll let you dig your own grave until you finally get deep enough to learn something from it.<br />
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I'm going to skip checking whether you can justify [[Special:Diff/2852505|this edit]] since it's about the same thing you got strike 1 for and nothing has changed since then.<br />
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You are at 2 strikes. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:21, 24 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:To be honest, I WAS going to reverse the edit on Sunsteel Strike's own page as well. But I knew you'd react like this, so I instead left a message on the talk page. But apparently, even the thing I did was too much for you. Bleh... --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 07:09, 24 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Yeah. I admit. I should've removed the edit I did, or better yet, not done it at all. I'm sorry. Is it possible for me to get that second strike removed? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 07:14, 24 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::I think not. FWIW 3 strikes is not "out", it's basically your last warning. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 10:22, 24 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== My error ==<br />
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Sorry about mistaking Magic Coat as Mirror Coat, I should have read a little more before posting that. :P ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|<span style="color:teal">Frozen</span>]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|<span style="color:green">Fennec</span>]]'' 13:39, 9 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:It's okay. The important thing is you recognized your mistake and fixed it. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 13:49, 9 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Skrub's Hitmontop ==<br />
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Since I was the one who found the information in question I was told I should be the one to explain it. I was prompted to look into this when someone asked me why Eagun's Pikachu could miss moves with 100 Accuracy when battling Skrub. Since I had the files and the know-how, I looked at each instance of Skrub's Hitmontop in Colosseum's common.rel. The important thing to note is that:<br />
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The Hitmontop for Eagun's Battle at 0xDD66F9, lists 0xED as holding 0xB3, which translates to a Bright Powder<br />
All other instances, such as in his first battle with you at 0xD34A9, list 0xED as holding 0xCF, which translates to a Black Belt.<br />
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I've not seen anyone else who's proven this, so you'll just have to take my word on it.<br />
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https://imgur.com/a/YTWog00<br />
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[[User:Unalive|Unalive]] ([[User talk:Unalive|talk]]) 18:55, 28 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Okay. Thank you. This is a good and reliable source. But next time, please provide your source right away to avoid cases like this. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 20:02, 28 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== floor order ==<br />
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floor order overrides game order? Since when? there are plenty of pages where game order is used over floor order. here's two: https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Rock_Tunnel#Items<br />
https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Seafoam_Islands#Items<br />
plus game order is easier to follow--[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 17:20, 30 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Those are pages where this issue just hasn't been fixed yet. Feel free to do it yourself, if you want to. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 18:29, 30 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::"those are the pages". every page is like this. why is it an issue? why feel the need to impose floor order? game order is so much better. if i am playing a certain game i can just scroll to it and not have to wade thru the items. where did u even get this idea from? --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 18:56, 30 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::It's not on '''every''' page. In fact, it's on a ton of pages already. Not in every page (and, as I said above, it'd be good for those pages where this is not the case to have it fixed), but generally speaking, it's preferred to list items in the order of accessibility, which, in the case of places like caves and buildings, means floors, even if it contradicts the game order. This order has received admin approval, as you can see [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Cave_of_Origin&diff=2220841&oldid=2220824 here]. It's an old edit, I know, but the point is still valid. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 19:39, 30 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::what u linked i have no problem with: oras and ruby/saph are basically the same game. look at seafoam islands. rby and frlg items are interwoven, which is fine. its that hgss should be listed after, because its layout is entirely different and should not be interwoven with rbyfrlg. and yes it is every page. since u claim its not every page, id like to see an example where its not. cave of origin is not an example. i am listing items in order of accessibility. frlg was released before hg/ss. so hgss items should come after. that simple. --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 19:50, 30 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::If the layout of the floors is different, then just keep the floors in a numerical order but put the newer games after the older ones. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:55, 1 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::..that's exactly what i'm doing. for every kanto page i did that since it overlaps with the johto pages. that includes celadon department. why keep that one different. hgss should come after. --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 11:42, 1 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::The point is, '''keep the floors in numerical order'''. You can put the items '''on a floor''' in the obtainable and/or game order, but keep the floor numbers in numerical order. I hope you understood. PS. You should '''seriously''' start using capital letters. It's not that hard or tiresome. Honestly. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 16:50, 1 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::why would i use floor order. u said urself that i should list the items in terms of accessibility. not every single place is linear in the sense that i can obtain every single item on a floor before moving on to the next one. sometimes i will for example be able to get an item on the second floor before an item on the first floor. floor order is meaningless. and as ive said, if we do floor order the games will all be mixed together, and why would you want that? --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 17:07, 1 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::...This isn't getting us anywhere. We need to ask an admin about this, although I still think you should try to understand my point. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 17:15, 1 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::::what is ur point exactly? the only thing ive gathered is "use floor order". not a single reason why, tho. --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 17:19, 1 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::::Why not? It only makes sense. People see the floor numbers before the games anyway, as they, more often than not, read from right to left, so it makes sense to list them in that order. Floor order is the first priority, game order is the second. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 18:33, 1 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::::::have you not read a single thing ive said. ive given you many reasons why floor order is bad. when people are looking at the items they are playing the game and trying to find them. if u put an item that can be found at the end first thats awful. u said it urself, you should list the itens in terms of accessibility. thats what im doing. now ur saying floor order trumps that? ur contradiciting urself. --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 18:44, 1 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::::::EternalDragonX, at what order the player finds the items is '''not''' something we can control. Especially for a place that has no linearity. Just because you find an item at a certain order, doesn't mean everyone else will. Most of your concerns (this ties back to the discussion you had on TiddlyWinks page) are just things we cannot control. How the player plays the game is not our issue. Therefore, at what order a player can obtain the item is not a priority since players finds items at a different order.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 08:24, 2 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::::::::so, what, we should list all the items in floor order? and mix all the games together? yea that seems like a great idea, considering no pages are like that. not to mention how confusing that is. --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 11:51, 2 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::::::::also, are you suggesting that the order we list items in is irrelevant? thats what it sounds like ur saying, since it isn't something we can "control". which also means that i might as well list an item at the very back of the dungeon before an item right by the entrance right? --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 21:33, 2 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
{{indent}}Floor order and ''then'' game order. The ordering that you're suggesting ("sometimes i will for example be able to get an item on the second floor before an item on the first floor") is what we can't control. So what if you found the item on the second floor first before an item on the first floor? That's not something we can control. Different players play the game differently. The order where you obtain them is not of a high priority for a place like Seafoam Islands or Rock Tunnel, since it's an open area. Routes are a different story, where the ordering should be the items from point A to point B.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 06:17, 3 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:so youre seriously telling me that you would mix the gsc items with the firered items in rock tunnel? why would you do that. it serves 0 benefit. and again, youre also saying that i should list an item that may be right by the exit of an area before one near the entrance of an area? that makes no sense. these are yes or no questions by the way. also, im not really "controlling" the players, im just giving them a suggested sequence of obtaining the items; one that wouldnt involve much if any backtracking at all. accessibility order is just so much more convenient: you can get every single item by going down the list, not having to skip several items and then go back up to try and find them again. there's no reason to use floor order --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 11:58, 3 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::It's not ''that'' confusing. It's not as jumbled up as you're making it out to be. The ordering is still going to be RBY>GSC>FRLG>HGSS, regardless of the template going by floor order. Common sense should still be considered, if you know you're not going to place an item from deep in a dungeon as the first item listed, then I don't know what the problem is. You're well aware of how nonsensical that is. To make it easier, if there are two items by the entrance (one on the left and one on the right), it doesn't matter which one gets listed first because different players are going to get different items first.<br />
::We are not a walkthrough, we are not going to give a suggested ordering, we're just listing the items. No need to be nit picky about the specifics. whether someone doesn't want to backtrack isn't really our problem. Again, players play the games differently. I'd be happy to back track, while other probably wouldn't. That's just how it goes. It's not a high priority.<br />
::If you want to continue this discussion, feels free to come to my talk page or any of the location talk pages. Finnish probably wouldn't want to keep getting notified about his talk page.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 05:18, 4 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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==Thank you!==<br />
Thanks for helping me out with the formatting on the [[Lush Jungle]] and [[Diglett's Tunnel]] pages! I'm new to editing Bulbapedia, so I'm still getting the hang of how the shortcuts work and what the standards are. If you have any tips/tricks, please let me know! '''[[User:Butterfreeism|<span style="color:#625B7C">–Bu<span style="color:#C05751">tt<span style="color:#5A93AE">erfr</span>ee</span>ism</span>''']] 18:10, 30 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Thanks for the compliment. And certainly! If you feel uncertain about something, feel free to ask me or some other more experienced user. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 18:29, 30 September 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== viridian gym ==<br />
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what the hell was the point of that edit. its clearly not about floor order anymore so why even bother. --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 12:00, 3 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:no ones going to answer this for you --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 12:58, 4 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::I know. I'm just getting tired of this. I saw it as other Gym items going after the reward TMs, but rethinking about it, I'm not so sure about that anymore. I'll see what I'll do with it. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 15:22, 4 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::i still dont have the faintest why you put that macho brace at the end. wasnt it you yourself who said items on the same floor can be in game order? --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 17:37, 4 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::They're technically in the obtaining order now. The Revive is first because you can obtain it before the Gym battle, the reward TMs are obtained right after the Gym battle (regardless of the game, which is why ''they'' are in game order), and the Macho Brace can be obtained after Giovanni has left after the Gym battle. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 19:04, 4 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::im all for accessibility order. im the one thats preaching it. but that is only limited to being in the same game; rby and frlg are basically the same game. if there was say a potion in the exact same spot as the revive in rby in frlg, yes i would list it right after the revive, before the tm. but hgss is an entirely different game. the layout of everything is different. if an item is in a different location, it should follow game order instead. aka kanto>johto. just because the items happen to be given by the gym leader after being defeated shouldnt mean they should be together. --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 19:31, 4 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::first of all that was my talk page not his. secondly i can see you have the time to go through other peoples talk pages but not your own... --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 14:42, 5 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::i like how u read that talk page but you completely ignore the fact that i specifically ask not to just go and undo my edit because there ARE other improvements i made but you went ahead and undid all of them anyway. so thanks. real classy move. --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 14:49, 5 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::yeah u know what your edit was just so appalling im just gonna undo it and separate the tables myself... something i was planning on doing later... --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 14:56, 5 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::In case you're referring to the Victory Road edit, I reversed it because it was the easy way to put it back the way it was. If you feel like you want to improve it somehow now, feel free to do so. Just don't combine the sections to one again. Also, I DID check my talk page. I'm simply just growing tired of arguing against you and your stubbornness. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 14:58, 5 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::jesus christ i LITERALLY said that i was just going to separate the tables right now. and ill do it by breaking it up from MY edit. not yours. still also love the fact that you havent even addressed the issue of viridian gym but you do all this... --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 15:09, 5 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::::I think you're taking this a biiit too seriously. I'm honestly not sure about Gyms, since it's not often we get items other than the reward TMs from them, but for now, I'm satisfied woth how it is, for the reasons I gave you earlier. PS. Could YOU also please respond to my question? Why do you refuse to use big capital letters? It's honestly not hard at all. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 17:35, 5 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::::no im not taking this too seriously. because u went and did your victory road edit i had to undo it so that i could make my edit, which i said i would literally on my talk page, which i know you read. then you go ahead and undo my undo literally WHILE i was making my edit like i said above and i had to go and undo that AGAIN. anymore and they'd accuse me of edit warring.<br />
::::::::::::not sure eh? well guess what. i am. if you dont give me a good reason and address what i said above im undoing your edit on viridian gym. <br />
:::::::::::: ... use ... capital letters? ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4p-SUvicno --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 20:34, 5 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::::::yooooooo i know you read my last message. the fact that you made an edit means youve been on and i seriously doubt you didnt read it. --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 16:11, 6 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::::::Again, I didn't reply because I'm getting tired of this. Also, you didn't give any good reasoning for why you don't use big capital letters. Or reasoning at all, in fact. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 16:43, 6 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::::::::all right im undoing your edit. --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 17:04, 6 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== celadon department store ==<br />
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im undoing your edit. cuz we talked about how the items should follow game order regardless of floor order. :) --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 01:23, 9 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:No. You should follow the floor order. Why are you so obsessed about this? It's not right! --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 04:12, 9 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::wot m8. we talked about it in the first two paragraphs: https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:Force_Fire#floor_order_cont<br />
::game order will always be the same. --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 15:33, 9 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::...I honestly can't understand your mindset. You're way too obsessed about this. Also, '''please''', write with big capital letters like a mature person would. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 15:47, 9 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::You've clearly misinterpreted what I said EternalDragon. What I meant was that the order of the games is always going to be the same order even if the list is following floor order. So for example:<br />
:::::Floor 1:<br />
::::::RBY/FRLG<br />
::::::GSC/HGSS<br />
::::::FRLG<br />
::::::HGSS<br />
:::::Floor 2:<br />
::::::RBY/FRLG<br />
::::::GSC/HGSS<br />
::::::FRLG<br />
::::::HGSS<br />
:::::Floor 3:<br />
::::::RBY/FRLG<br />
::::::GSC/HGSS<br />
::::::FRLG<br />
::::::HGSS<br />
::::The game order is not going to get jumbled up if you follow by floor order.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 16:27, 9 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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==SM084==<br />
Regarding [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=SM084&diff=next&oldid=2859383 my edit here], I had looked beforehand if events such as this one had been noted on other episode pages, but I couldn't find any so I removed it. I figured it'd be weird to leave this when it wasn't done for other Pokémon. But you say it has been done for other Pokémon, so I was wondering what pages you were talking about. Could you maybe show an example? [[User:Satsjoe|Satsjoe]] ([[User talk:Satsjoe|talk]]) 10:46, 12 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:[[EP075]], [[EP077]], and [[EP111]]. I also guess it could be applied to one or two of Ash's Unova Pokémon that he didn't add to his party right away too, like {{AP|Palpitoad}}. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 10:50, 12 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Thanks. Guess I didn't search well enough, my bad. [[User:Satsjoe|Satsjoe]] ([[User talk:Satsjoe|talk]]) 10:58, 12 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::It's okay. Errare humanum est. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 12:55, 12 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== why not ==<br />
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all i did was reorder the items and add links. of course reordering them isnt absolutely necessary, but why not? now theres a semblance of how you obtain the items. --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 05:48, 15 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Links I can understand, but the reordering? No. These lists are '''supposed''' to be in alphabetical order, '''not''' in obtainable order. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 06:16, 15 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== When Nebby learned Sunsteel Strike ==<br />
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Can you explain why you think [[Nebby]] learned {{m|Sunsteel Strike}} when it evolved?<br />
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I'm also curious about what you meant when you said you received approval for it.<br />
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(FYI I'm not inclined to worry about strikes in this case/at this point because it's a weird situation. This is worth sorting out on its own terms for now.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 23:08, 18 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:For the exact same reason I said in the edit summary and what we discussed on your talk page just a little while ago: the anime [[SM091#Trivia|recently confirmed]] that exclusive Z-Moves need a certain move to act as their basis, just like in the games. Since Nebby used Searing Sunraze Smash in the episode where it evolved into Solgaleo, it must have also known Sunsteel Strike at the time. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 06:37, 19 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== External link on Pokemon breeding ==<br />
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Hey, I can see you reverted my change on [[Pokémon breeding]]. Would it be OK to add the link as a referrence? I'd add new section as it doesn't exists for that article. --[[User:Robdy|Robdy]] ([[User talk:Robdy|talk]]) 13:21, 19 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Ask an admin. I'd say no, but ask one of them to be sure. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 14:26, 19 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Spiritomb edits ==<br />
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Is there any specific reason why you removed my edits in the Spiritomb page? {{unsigned|ABlinkAway4}}<br />
:First off: new comments go to the bottom of the talk page. You can add a new section by clicking the "+" next to the "Edit" button.<br />
:Second: don't forget to sign your comments. The sign button is right above the edit window, the second to last button.<br />
:Third: while the trivia '''was''' valid, it was poorly written and placed. Sorry. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 10:31, 24 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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==Archive images==<br />
https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Pok%C3%A9_Problem&diff=prev&oldid=2870434<br />
I hid them for the simple reason that I didn't know they were uploaded yet and they always get hidden there without any problem. They were also hidden because they don't get uploaded that quickly. I don't hide things for no reasons, so please don't get annoyed without knowing the reason. [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]])!<br />
:I managed to find a HD version of the episode soon after it had aired. That's where I got those pictures. Sorry if you felt like I offended you. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 15:41, 29 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Pokémon League (Alola)/Title Defense page ==<br />
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I confirmed that Sophocles's Magnezone is Analytic in USUM. See also [https://twitter.com/zakocky/status/1056857442246569984 my tweet]. Deutsch and Chinese version say too so.--[[User:Zaggyo|Zaggyo]] ([[User talk:Zaggyo|talk]]) 06:56, 30 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Okay. Sorry. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 07:01, 30 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Beta Page Revision ==<br />
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Just curious why my two edits were undone; I thought they were helpful. The space on the XD page in case people though the entire thing was one item and the notes on the Colosseum page to note that there were only a handful of noted Pokémon among the lists are never available in the final game. ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|<span style="color:teal">Frozen</span>]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|<span style="color:green">Fennec</span>]]'' 19:37, 30 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Pardon me. I didn't think that the space was necessary and the Colosseum edit could've been done a bit better. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 20:12, 30 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Ah, let me know how it could be done better so I can improve on it then; thank you. :) ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|<span style="color:teal">Frozen</span>]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|<span style="color:green">Fennec</span>]]'' 20:20, 30 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== wat ==<br />
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why are you removing my links --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 11:03, 31 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:They were repeat links. Also, don't forget to use the {{template|pkmn}} and {{template|pkmn2}} templates to make links simpler to add. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 13:05, 31 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
::gee, maybe it wouldve been nice to say that in the change instead of having me come and ask. hmmmmmmmmmmmmm. and those links were the first in those sections; they were repeated, but in an above section. it should be fine to repeat them --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 13:21, 31 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::1) You're being unnecessarily rude. 2) Okay, valid point, but I'm still not sure. 3) I'm really not in the mood of arguing with you again. Please ask someone higher up, like Force Fire or Chosen. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 13:24, 31 October 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Facade ==<br />
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I checked the RAWs, and Viz's translation is correct. It was Facade. I want to move the file, but which is the Electrike's nickname in the Viz version? The image currently says "Rikey", but it says "Rikelec" on the template itself. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 17:47, 1 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:It's the latter. I added it to the template only a few hours ago. And while you're at it, could you also move the other move pictures from the same page? I also changed their names in the templates to match the ones in the Viz translation. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 18:18, 1 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Recent edit ==<br />
You've been told by an admin that you shouldn't undo an edit just because YOU think it includes bad grammar. https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Spiritomb_(Pok%C3%A9mon)&diff=prev&oldid=2868512 That's not constructive. [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]]) 15:33, 13 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Sorry. It's just a fact that said edit legitimately contained grammatical errors. I also personally saw that the sentence structure could've been better. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 16:46, 13 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== Detective Pikachu Cameos ==<br />
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Why did you remove the cameo Pokemon from the Detective Pikachu film page? They do appear in the film and I did specifically list them as being a cameo. So, why did you remove them? Thanks. '''Ice''' [[User talk:The IceCream|Cream]] 16:28, 14 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:Because they weren't even actually featured. For example, Articuno and Steelix were only mentioned on a poster. That does not count as an appearance. Not even as a cameo. And same goes for other Pokémon pictures as well. Bulbapedia only counts direct appearances. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 19:21, 14 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
::Well, they make an appearance somewhere in the trailer even if it's so small. Shouldn't that count for something? '''Ice''' [[User talk:The IceCream|Cream]] 21:57, 14 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::I just told you: indirect appearances don't count. Especially ones that are only mentioned. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 08:55, 15 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::How does appearing on a poster not count as a cameo? I am just curious to why you think this. '''Ice''' [[User talk:The IceCream|Cream]] 15:51, 15 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::Even if it DOES count as a cameo, it still doesn't count as a proper appearance. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 16:33, 15 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
::::::That's why I listed it as a cameo and not a proper appearance. '''Ice''' [[User talk:The IceCream|Cream]] 19:04, 15 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
:::::::I said: Bulbapedia doesn't count those. Period. As in, they do not belong to the characters section. At all. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 19:58, 15 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
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== [[Trophy Garden]] edit war ==<br />
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Hi there. You removed my edits, despite me requesting a discussion before doing so, and me having started a talk page discussion about this topic. I am happy to talk about this if you will stop reverting without discussion, but due to the edit warring, I will also be calling in an administrator. --[[User:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] [[User talk:Poppy Appletree|:3]] 13:03, 20 November 2018 (UTC)</div>
Poppy Appletree
https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Trophy_Garden&diff=2883508
Trophy Garden
2018-11-20T13:01:34Z
<p>Poppy Appletree: Restoring previous edits after user FinnishPokéFan92 has reverted my edits without engaging on the talk page. Please discuss this before making changes.</p>
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<div>{{spading|Counter reset clarification: is the 24-hour counter for DP, Pt, or both?}}<br />
{{incomplete|2=Missing layout map for Diamond and Pearl (different grass sprites)}}<br />
{{Infobox location<br />
|image=Trophy Garden DPPt.png<br />
|type=land<br />
|location_name=Trophy Garden<br />
|japanese_name=じまんのうらにわ<br />
|translated_name=Pride Backyard<br />
|location={{si|Pokémon Mansion}}<br />
|region=Sinnoh<br />
|generation={{gen|IV}}<br />
|map=Sinnoh Route 212 Map.png<br />
}}<br />
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The '''Trophy Garden''' (Japanese: '''じまんのうらにわ''' ''Pride Backyard'') is an area located on {{rt|212|Sinnoh}} where many rare Pokémon can be caught. It is located behind the {{si|Pokémon Mansion}}.<br />
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There are many Pokémon that can be found here without any interaction with the Trophy Garden's owner, [[Mr. Backlot]]. All of these Pokémon are in the [[List of Pokémon by Sinnoh Pokédex number|Sinnoh Pokédex]], and many can be found in other areas. After the {{player}} has gotten the [[National Pokédex]] upgrade, however, Pokémon that do not otherwise appear in Sinnoh will be placed in the Trophy Garden by Backlot's butler to cover up for his fibs, with a different one there daily. The counter is not reset at midnight, but after 24 hours. It is possible to have Backlot mention a different Pokémon, simply by soft-resetting. The last two Pokémon placed in the garden at any given time will remain available until more Pokémon are placed in the garden.<br />
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==Pokémon==<br />
{{catch/header|land}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|025|Pikachu|yes|yes|no|Grass|18|all=10%|type1=Electric}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|025|Pikachu|no|no|yes|Grass|22, 24|all=10%|type1=Electric}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|172|Pichu|yes|yes|no|Grass|16|30%|10%|10%|type1=Electric}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|172|Pichu|no|no|yes|Grass|21-22|all=30%|type1=Electric}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|315|Roselia|yes|yes|no|Grass|16-17|all=30%|type1=Grass|type2=Poison}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|315|Roselia|no|no|yes|Grass|22-23|all=30%|type1=Grass|type2=Poison}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|397|Staravia|yes|yes|no|Grass|16-17|20%|40%|20%|type2=Flying}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|397|Staravia|no|no|yes|Grass|22-24|20%|30%|10%|type2=Flying}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|402|Kricketune|yes|yes|no|Grass|16-17|10%|10%|30%|type1=Bug}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|402|Kricketune|no|no|yes|Grass|22-23|10%|0%|20%|type1=Bug}}<br />
{{catch/div|land|Special}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|035|Clefairy|yes|yes|yes|Backlot|16, 18|all=5%|type1=Normal}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|039|Jigglypuff|yes|yes|no|Backlot|16, 18|all=5%|type1=Normal}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|039|Jigglypuff|no|no|yes|Backlot|22|all=5%|type1=Normal}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|052|Meowth|yes|yes|no|Backlot|16, 18|all=5%|type1=Normal}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|052|Meowth|no|no|yes|Backlot|22|all=5%|type1=Normal}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|113|Chansey|yes|yes|no|Backlot|16, 18|all=5%|type1=Normal}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|113|Chansey|no|no|yes|Backlot|22|all=5%|type1=Normal}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|132|Ditto|no|no|yes|Backlot|22|all=5%|type1=Normal}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|133|Eevee|yes|yes|no|Backlot|16, 18|all=5%|type1=Normal}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|133|Eevee|no|no|yes|Backlot|22|all=5%|type1=Normal}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|137|Porygon|yes|yes|no|Backlot|16, 18|all=5%|type1=Normal}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|173|Cleffa|yes|yes|yes|Backlot|16, 18|all=5%|type1=Normal}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|174|Igglybuff|yes|yes|no|Backlot|16, 18|all=5%|type1=Normal}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|174|Igglybuff|no|no|yes|Backlot|22|all=5%|type1=Normal}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|183|Marill|yes|yes|yes|Backlot|16, 18|all=5%|type1=Water}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|298|Azurill|yes|yes|yes|Backlot|16, 18|all=5%|type1=Normal}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|311|Plusle|yes|yes|yes|Backlot|16, 18|all=5%|type1=Electric}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|312|Minun|yes|yes|yes|Backlot|16, 18|all=5%|type1=Electric}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|351|Castform|yes|yes|yes|Backlot|16, 18|all=5%|type1=Normal}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|438|Bonsly|yes|yes|yes|Backlot|16, 18|all=5%|type1=Rock}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|439|Mime Jr.|yes|yes|yes|Backlot|16, 18|all=5%|type1=Psychic}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|440|Happiny|yes|yes|yes|Backlot|16, 18, 22|all=5%|type1=Normal}}<br />
{{catch/footer|land}}<br />
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==In the anime==<br />
[[File:Trophy Garden anime.png|thumb|200px|Trophy Garden in the anime]]<br />
The Trophy Garden was featured in ''[[DP084|Hungry for the Good Life!]]''. It was part of {{si|Pokémon Mansion}} and was considered a relaxing spot for Pokémon. {{TRT}} put their plans into action to capture the Pokémon in the Trophy Garden with their [[Team Rocket's mechas|flying mecha]]. However, Dawn rescues them with the help of a gluttonous {{TP|Dawn|Swinub}}. After Team Rocket's defeat, Dawn catches the Swinub.<br />
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==In the manga==<br />
===In the Pokémon Adventures manga===<br />
In ''[[PS367|Suffering Psyduck]]'', [[Mr. Backlot]] shows the Trophy Garden to {{adv|Diamond}}, {{adv|Pearl}} and {{adv|Platinum}}. [[Cynthia]] then visits, discussing with Mr. Backlot about the Psyduck that disappeared from [[Amity Square]], and takes the trio with her to [[Route 210]].<br />
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==Trivia==<br />
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* The Trophy Garden is the first location where wild [[Eevee]] and [[Porygon]] could be caught; previously these Pokémon were only available as a [[gift Pokémon]]<br />
* The Trophy Garden is likely a reference to [https://www.complex.com/pop-culture/2013/01/the-10-most-bizarre-schoolyard-pokmon-rumors/bills-gardenmountainforrest Bill's Secret Garden], a rumor from [[Pokémon Red and Blue]] which claimed that rare Pokémon including [[starter Pokémon]] could be found behind [[Bill]]'s [[Sea Cottage]].<br />
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==In other languages==<br />
{{Langtable|color={{locationcolor/light|land}}|bordercolor={{locationcolor/dark|land}}<br />
|zh_yue=漂亮的後院 ''{{tt|Piuleuhng-dīk Hauhyún|Beautiful Backyard}}''<br />
|zh_cmn=最自豪的後院 ''{{tt|Zuìzìháo-de Hòuyuàn|Most Proud Backyard}}'' {{tt|*|Taiwan}}<br>最自豪的庭院 ''{{tt|Zuìzìháo-de Tíngyuàn|Most Proud Courtyard}}'' {{tt|*|Mainland China}} <br />
|fr_eu=Jardin Trophée<br />
|de=Trophäengarten<br />
|it=Giardino Trofeo<br />
|ko=자랑의 뒷마당 ''Jarang-yi Dwitmada''<br />
|es_eu=Jardín Trofeo<br />
|vi=Hậu viên Kiêu hãnh<br />
}}<br />
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{{Sinnoh}}<br/><br />
{{Project Locations notice}}<br />
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[[Category:Sinnoh locations]]<br />
[[Category:Diamond and Pearl locations]]<br />
[[Category:Platinum locations]]<br />
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[[de:Trophäengarten]]<br />
[[fr:Jardin trophée]]<br />
[[it:Giardino Trofeo]]<br />
[[ja:じまんのうらにわ]]<br />
[[zh:最自豪的後院]]</div>
Poppy Appletree
https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Trophy_Garden&diff=2883506
Talk:Trophy Garden
2018-11-20T12:59:21Z
<p>Poppy Appletree: /* Bill's Secret Garden reference */ new section</p>
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<div>==Getting the Pokemon marked with *?==<br />
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I haven't accually played DP before, so I wouldn't know that much about it, but it seems rather odd that Pokemon in the article that are marked with * are "Found before getting the National Dex". Does this mean that those Pokemon are ONLY available before getting the National Dex, or does it just mean that those can be caught before getting the National Dex, and will still be available there after you get the National Dex? Someone might need to clear that up a bit.<br />
:Yes, that's what it means. They're available before the National Dex, but will still show up to annoy you after you get it too. --[[User:DarkfireTaimatsu|DarkfireTaimatsu]] 19:14, 15 September 2007 (UTC)<br />
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== Sprites ==<br />
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Like I said, I don't feel like getting in an edit war over something like this, so here I am, discussing it on the talk page like a Bulbapedian should when there's a conflict. Now, the sprites are good for nothing but decorative purposes, added for no apparent reason other than the one I just stated, yet I can't remove them without having my edits reverted (again, for no apparent reason). Personally, I think they should go; if people are so interested in seeing the Pokémon they can catch, they can click on the links. However, if I am overruled and the sprites stay, rather than being inconsitent with every other article I visit, sprites should be added to those as well (though I don't see why we should have to do this in the first place). // [[User talk:Szayel Aporro|<span style="color:#00A550">'''''Szayel</span><span style="color:#C0C0C0">Aporro</span><span style="color:#FF69B4">Granz'''''</span>]]21:56, 23 January 2008 (UTC)<br />
:All I am getting is, "I don't want to was bytes." That's what I'm getting.<span style="background:#11FF6C;"><span style="border: 3px solid #A8FF8C;"></span></span><span style="background:#00FFFF;">[[User:Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#A0C0F8;"><sup><big>'''''Poke'''''</big></sup></span>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#A0C0F8;">'''''Maniac'''''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#A0C0F8;"><sub><big>'''''102'''''</big></sub></span>]]</span><span style="background:#11FF6C;"><span style="border: 3px solid #A8FF8C;"></span></span> 21:59, 23 January 2008 (UTC)<br />
::I couldn't make any sense of what you just said, but I'll simplify my first post: The sprites are nothing but eye candy and don't belong on this page. If sprites ''are'' readded and kept for good, then the same should apply to every article with a table like this. // [[User talk:Szayel Aporro|<span style="color:#00A550">'''''Szayel</span><span style="color:#C0C0C0">Aporro</span><span style="color:#FF69B4">Granz'''''</span>]] 22:22, 23 January 2008 (UTC)<br />
:I agree with Pokemaniac to leave the sprites in. Until an admin decides, I'll put the sprites back up since it's majority. I also agree that this should be for every article with a table like this. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|<span style="color:#FF7F00">Theryguy</span>]][[User talk:Theryguy512|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">5</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">1</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">2</span>]]''' 22:23, 23 January 2008 (UTC)<br />
::And if you think that sprites are ''eye candy'', why don't you just remove '''every single''' image from this website?!<span style="background:#11FF6C;"><span style="border: 3px solid #A8FF8C;"></span></span><span style="background:#00FFFF;">[[User:Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#A0C0F8;"><sup><big>'''''Poke'''''</big></sup></span>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#A0C0F8;">'''''Maniac'''''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#A0C0F8;"><sub><big>'''''102'''''</big></sub></span>]]</span><span style="background:#11FF6C;"><span style="border: 3px solid #A8FF8C;"></span></span> 22:24, 23 January 2008 (UTC)<br />
:Lol. FYI, that was not be determined as literally take them down, don't. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|<span style="color:#FF7F00">Theryguy</span>]][[User talk:Theryguy512|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">5</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">1</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">2</span>]]''' 22:26, 23 January 2008 (UTC)<br />
::I'm not ''that'' crazy. I was talking about this specific page, PM (notice I said "on this page", not site). // [[User talk:Szayel Aporro|<span style="color:#00A550">'''''Szayel</span><span style="color:#C0C0C0">Aporro</span><span style="color:#FF69B4">Granz'''''</span>]] 22:30, 23 January 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::No, sorry if you thought I was directing that comment to you. I was putting that in case a new user looks here and sees the directions to take them all off lol. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|<span style="color:#FF7F00">Theryguy</span>]][[User talk:Theryguy512|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">5</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">1</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">2</span>]]''' 22:32, 23 January 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::Actually you said "The sprites" not "The sprites on this page" and if you think that ''these sprites'' are eyeball chocolate, why don't you get rid ''these sprites'' off of every page?<span style="background:#11FF6C;"><span style="border: 3px solid #A8FF8C;"></span></span><span style="background:#00FFFF;">[[User:Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#A0C0F8;"><sup><big>'''''Poke'''''</big></sup></span>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#A0C0F8;">'''''Maniac'''''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#A0C0F8;"><sub><big>'''''102'''''</big></sub></span>]]</span><span style="background:#11FF6C;"><span style="border: 3px solid #A8FF8C;"></span></span> 22:33, 23 January 2008 (UTC)<br />
:Most Pokémon sites have trainer sprites and Pokémon sprites hanging around. Not too recently, either way, the sprites have been added to ''many'' articles, most of them Sinnoh's routes. The only reason I see to get rid of them would be "to save space", not that that space won't be filled anyway. It's a wiki. It never shrinks. <span style="background:#FF9030">'''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#000000">chidna</span>]]</span><span style="background:#664444">[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|<sup><span style="color:#FFD700">G</span></sup><sub><span style="color:#E0E0E0">S</span></sub><span style="color:#000000">DS!</span>]]'''</span> 22:36, 23 January 2008 (UTC)<br />
:That's what I was saying above even though I mispelled it. SzayelAporro doesn't want to waste bytes.<span style="background:#11FF6C;"><span style="border: 3px solid #A8FF8C;"></span></span><span style="background:#00FFFF;">[[User:Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#A0C0F8;"><sup><big>'''''Poke'''''</big></sup></span>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#A0C0F8;">'''''Maniac'''''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#A0C0F8;"><sub><big>'''''102'''''</big></sub></span>]]</span><span style="background:#11FF6C;"><span style="border: 3px solid #A8FF8C;"></span></span> 22:38, 23 January 2008 (UTC)<br />
::Not once, in my edit summaries nor the talk page, did I so much as imply it was a waste of space. But whatever; I heard an admin's opinion, so I'm happy. // [[User talk:Szayel Aporro|<span style="color:#00A550">'''''Szayel</span><span style="color:#C0C0C0">Aporro</span><span style="color:#FF69B4">Granz'''''</span>]] 23:22, 23 January 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::I know people have decided already, but here's my opinion... if we're gonna keep the sprites, I'm gonna say that we use the {{template|MS}} or {{template|Ani}} templates, as I find the raw code is hard to look at, but that's just me.. that, and use the static sprites perhaps.. again, I find that the animated ones are overused and they just look odd to me alongside static text and such. I just think that the Ani sprites are good for colorful pages, but come on, there's the static ones too... [[User:Tina|Tina]]<sup> [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]]</sup> 23:39, 23 January 2008 (UTC) [[User:Tina|Tina]]<sup> [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]]</sup> 23:37, 23 January 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::Oh certainly. If we were ever to put the Pokémon sprites on these pages, they'd be the static MSes, just like in the Pokédex lists. <span style="background:#FF9030">'''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#000000">chidna</span>]]</span><span style="background:#664444">[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|<sup><span style="color:#FFD700">G</span></sup><sub><span style="color:#E0E0E0">S</span></sub><span style="color:#000000">DS!</span>]]'''</span> 01:09, 24 January 2008 (UTC)<br />
:Ack. You guys already put them here. VERY bad form putting them in the name box. <span style="background:#FF9030">'''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#000000">chidna</span>]]</span><span style="background:#664444">[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|<sup><span style="color:#FFD700">G</span></sup><sub><span style="color:#E0E0E0">S</span></sub><span style="color:#000000">DS!</span>]]'''</span> 01:37, 24 January 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Porygon rarity...? ==<br />
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Does anyone think that {{p|Porygon}} may have less of a chance of appearing through Mr. Backlot than other Pokémon? I'm certainly getting suspicious. I've resetted and talked to the guy '''''over 100 times''''', and Porygon wasn't mentioned even once! And nobody say it's because Porygon was ''already'' in the garden-- that was {{p|Chansey}}. [[User:SharKing|SharKing]] 23:44, 22 August 2008 (UTC)SharKing<br />
:Its the same with Eevee. I would think the more useful Pokemon would be harder to get through the resetting than the less useful ones like Igglybuff who I got 7 times in a row once. [[User:Dexington|Dexington]] 21:35, 1 April 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Why? ==<br />
*Another common trick is to put a level 18 Pokémon (one that has not yet gained any experience, or the trick fails) in the first slot of the party and use a Repel, though this returns only Pikachu and the daily Pokémon, like Chansey. This method may be used to obtain rare held items, like Lucky Egg, Light Ball, Oval Stone or Moon Stone, as seen in this video <br />
WHY?--[[User:Wowy|Wowy]] 07:27, 16 September 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Pikachu? ==<br />
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Why does it say that I can't catch Pikachu here in Platinum, and that the ONLY catchable Pokémon in the Trophy Garden in Platinum are special Pokémon? I want a Pikachu in Platinum when it comes out... --[[User:Alex S.|Alex S.]] 03:11, 14 October 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Pokemon Mansion SCREAMS for an article! ==<br />
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I find it pretty annoying that Sinnoh's Pokemon Mansion does not have its article and the only article related to this place is Trophy Garden. The Mansion is a distinct place, it appeared in anime and certainly deserves its article. It is NOT to be unified with Trophy Garden! I can start a stub, but it won't have too much information. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 14:46, 29 October 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Still a stub? == <br />
This article looks pretty fleshed out to me. Is the Trophy Garden page still a stub? If not, someone should remove the stub template at the bottom of the page. [[User:Jacobe|Jacobe]] 21:54, 23 February 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Level problems... ==<br />
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In Platinum, they can be level 22. I might have even encountered level 23.[[User:Nintendofan146B|Nintendofan146B]] 20:25, 1 April 2009 (UTC)<br />
:Yes, the levels changed within games and no one's fixed the page yet. Feel free to update. &mdash; <small>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<font color="#0000C8">THE TROM</font></small>]] &mdash; 20:49, 1 April 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Frequency of Backlot Pokemon ==<br />
It seems to me that (depending on the game), Backlot seems to 'favor' certain pokemon over others. Case in point, over the last 30 days I've gone to him once a day, everyday, in my Diamond game, and he's mentioned Porygon 4 times, but hasn't given me a single Bonsly. Even before that, I went to him every so often (At least 60 times sporadically) and didn't get a single Bonsly. It seems to me that Backlot's choice is decided in a way similar to which pokemon you run into during a random encounter in tall grass. [[User:TCABF|TCABF]] 20:49, 28 April 2009 (UTC)<br />
:Yes, that's right. It's absolutely random. He doesn't cycle through them all before he repeats himself. While it also seems likely that there is a degree of rarity involved, I haven't seen any published evidence of this, just a few fan theorems on forums and whatnot. &mdash; <small>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<font color="#0000C8">THE TROM</font></small>]] &mdash; 21:12, 28 April 2009 (UTC)<br />
::Hmm, in that case, I might do a study sometime, talking to him a certain number of times (Save and restart each time) and recording the data to see if I can figure out the rarities. Should 300 times be enough for good data, or should I go for 500? [[User:TCABF|TCABF]] 21:47, 28 April 2009 (UTC)<br />
:::500's a nice number... &mdash; <small>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<font color="#0000C8">THE TROM</font></small>]] &mdash; 02:14, 6 May 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Backlot? ==<br />
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Backlot? Where is that? I want a Cleffa. [[User:Ugoz|Ugoz]] 15:04, 10 August 2009 (UTC)<br />
:Well, [[Backlot]] is the name of the owner of the mansion and garden. It is actually located sout of [[Hearthome City]] in Diamond, Pearl and Platinum. You can also get to it by going to the bottom left path at [[Pastoria City]] and following that. [[User:Solar Dragon|Solar Dragon]] 15:08, 10 August 2009 (UTC)<br />
::I forgot that was his name. I'm so stupid [[User:Ugoz|Ugoz]] 18:48, 10 August 2009 (UTC)<br />
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==Castform==<br />
I've caught Casstform in platinum without needed to speak to Mr.Blacklot.--[[User:Grungle7|Grungle7]] 10:14, 14 August 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== 2 special pokemon? ==<br />
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Once I was told by Backlot, that plusle was in the garden and I found plusle, the regular pokemon, and clefairy! Same thing with castform! Isn't clefairy a special pokemon?<br />
PS:I am playing Platinum--[[User:Minimag|Minimag]] 07:15, 14 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
:You find the previous day's Pokémon too. So you have 48 hours to catch each one. &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 07:16, 14 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Image ==<br />
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Can someone upload an image up here? It looks VERY empty... [[User:Ht14|<span style="color:#B69E00"><sup>'''''ht'''''</sup></span>]][[User talk:Ht14|<span style="color:#E1E1E1"><small>''14''</small></span>]] 02:34, 26 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
:By image, I mean the image of the garden... [[User:Ht14|<span style="color:#B69E00"><sup>'''''ht'''''</sup></span>]][[User talk:Ht14|<span style="color:#E1E1E1"><small>''14''</small></span>]] 02:34, 26 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Tell me I'm I'm imagining this... ==<br />
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Do the levels of the Pokémon increase after getting the Ndex? I caught a Ditto at Lv 23 and a something I don't remember at Lv 22...<br />
Oh, and... nothing.<br />
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[[User:Togepikachu|TogePikachu]] 16:08, 1 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== {{p|Ditto}} ==<br />
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Something doesn't look right about Ditto's levels section... [[Special:Contributions/Enervation|<span style="color:black">~</span>]][[User:Enervation|Enervation]] 22:13, 15 December 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Ditto ==<br />
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This page says that Ditto can be caught at level 16, 18 or 22, while it can only be caught at 22 in Platinum. However, Ditto itself can only be caught here in Platinum. [[User:Tk3141|Tk3141]] 02:55, 10 April 2012 (UTC)<br />
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== Encounter Rates ==<br />
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Once Backlot's special Pokémon are introduced to the garden, how are the others' encounter rates changed to compensate?<br />
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I'm curious because I recently read about how the [[Great Marsh]] compensates for its changing Pokémon by reducing the rates of Marill and Quagsire in D/P, or Wooper in Platinum (refer to '''Pokémon → Changing Pokémon''' to see what I mean; I can't DL it for some reason). I suspect that the Trophy Garden does something similar, but if it does, I don't know how. '''[[User:SharKing|<font color="#003399">SharKing</font>]] <sub>[[User talk:SharKing|<font color="#DDBB00">(talk)</font>]]</sub>''' 17:55, 5 June 2017 (UTC)<br />
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== Bill's Secret Garden reference ==<br />
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As noted on the talk page for [[Sea Cottage]], Bill's Secret Garden is one of the most infamous Pokémon rumours of all time[https://www.gamesradar.com/uk/rumors-everyone-believed-about-pokemon/][https://www.techradar.com/uk/news/gaming/gotta-debunk-em-all-the-pokemon-rumors-and-urban-legends-we-all-fell-for-1315898][https://www.thegamer.com/pokemon-areas-that-are-impossible-to-find-and-how-to-find-them/]. Several other infamous rumours such as [[the truck]] and [[Mewthree]] are mentioned on this wiki due to their infamy. Because of this, I feel that the Trophy Garden's reference to the Bill's Secret Garden rumour should be retained, and I would appreciate that anyone seeking to remove this from the article engage with me here first before deleting it. --[[User:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] [[User talk:Poppy Appletree|:3]] 12:59, 20 November 2018 (UTC)</div>
Poppy Appletree
https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Trophy_Garden&diff=2883504
Trophy Garden
2018-11-20T12:54:19Z
<p>Poppy Appletree: Standardising with American spelling</p>
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<div>{{spading|Counter reset clarification: is the 24-hour counter for DP, Pt, or both?}}<br />
{{incomplete|2=Missing layout map for Diamond and Pearl (different grass sprites)}}<br />
{{Infobox location<br />
|image=Trophy Garden DPPt.png<br />
|type=land<br />
|location_name=Trophy Garden<br />
|japanese_name=じまんのうらにわ<br />
|translated_name=Pride Backyard<br />
|location={{si|Pokémon Mansion}}<br />
|region=Sinnoh<br />
|generation={{gen|IV}}<br />
|map=Sinnoh Route 212 Map.png<br />
}}<br />
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The '''Trophy Garden''' (Japanese: '''じまんのうらにわ''' ''Pride Backyard'') is an area located on {{rt|212|Sinnoh}} where many rare Pokémon can be caught. It is located behind the {{si|Pokémon Mansion}}.<br />
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There are many Pokémon that can be found here without any interaction with the Trophy Garden's owner, [[Mr. Backlot]]. All of these Pokémon are in the [[List of Pokémon by Sinnoh Pokédex number|Sinnoh Pokédex]], and many can be found in other areas. After the {{player}} has gotten the [[National Pokédex]] upgrade, however, Pokémon that do not otherwise appear in Sinnoh will be placed in the Trophy Garden by Backlot's butler to cover up for his fibs, with a different one there daily. The counter is not reset at midnight, but after 24 hours. It is possible to have Backlot mention a different Pokémon, simply by soft-resetting. The last two Pokémon placed in the garden at any given time will remain available until more Pokémon are placed in the garden.<br />
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==Pokémon==<br />
{{catch/header|land}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|025|Pikachu|yes|yes|no|Grass|18|all=10%|type1=Electric}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|025|Pikachu|no|no|yes|Grass|22, 24|all=10%|type1=Electric}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|172|Pichu|yes|yes|no|Grass|16|30%|10%|10%|type1=Electric}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|172|Pichu|no|no|yes|Grass|21-22|all=30%|type1=Electric}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|315|Roselia|yes|yes|no|Grass|16-17|all=30%|type1=Grass|type2=Poison}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|315|Roselia|no|no|yes|Grass|22-23|all=30%|type1=Grass|type2=Poison}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|397|Staravia|yes|yes|no|Grass|16-17|20%|40%|20%|type2=Flying}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|397|Staravia|no|no|yes|Grass|22-24|20%|30%|10%|type2=Flying}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|402|Kricketune|yes|yes|no|Grass|16-17|10%|10%|30%|type1=Bug}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|402|Kricketune|no|no|yes|Grass|22-23|10%|0%|20%|type1=Bug}}<br />
{{catch/div|land|Special}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|035|Clefairy|yes|yes|yes|Backlot|16, 18|all=5%|type1=Normal}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|039|Jigglypuff|yes|yes|no|Backlot|16, 18|all=5%|type1=Normal}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|039|Jigglypuff|no|no|yes|Backlot|22|all=5%|type1=Normal}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|052|Meowth|yes|yes|no|Backlot|16, 18|all=5%|type1=Normal}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|052|Meowth|no|no|yes|Backlot|22|all=5%|type1=Normal}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|113|Chansey|yes|yes|no|Backlot|16, 18|all=5%|type1=Normal}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|113|Chansey|no|no|yes|Backlot|22|all=5%|type1=Normal}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|132|Ditto|no|no|yes|Backlot|22|all=5%|type1=Normal}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|133|Eevee|yes|yes|no|Backlot|16, 18|all=5%|type1=Normal}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|133|Eevee|no|no|yes|Backlot|22|all=5%|type1=Normal}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|137|Porygon|yes|yes|no|Backlot|16, 18|all=5%|type1=Normal}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|173|Cleffa|yes|yes|yes|Backlot|16, 18|all=5%|type1=Normal}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|174|Igglybuff|yes|yes|no|Backlot|16, 18|all=5%|type1=Normal}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|174|Igglybuff|no|no|yes|Backlot|22|all=5%|type1=Normal}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|183|Marill|yes|yes|yes|Backlot|16, 18|all=5%|type1=Water}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|298|Azurill|yes|yes|yes|Backlot|16, 18|all=5%|type1=Normal}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|311|Plusle|yes|yes|yes|Backlot|16, 18|all=5%|type1=Electric}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|312|Minun|yes|yes|yes|Backlot|16, 18|all=5%|type1=Electric}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|351|Castform|yes|yes|yes|Backlot|16, 18|all=5%|type1=Normal}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|438|Bonsly|yes|yes|yes|Backlot|16, 18|all=5%|type1=Rock}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|439|Mime Jr.|yes|yes|yes|Backlot|16, 18|all=5%|type1=Psychic}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|440|Happiny|yes|yes|yes|Backlot|16, 18, 22|all=5%|type1=Normal}}<br />
{{catch/footer|land}}<br />
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==In the anime==<br />
[[File:Trophy Garden anime.png|thumb|200px|Trophy Garden in the anime]]<br />
The Trophy Garden was featured in ''[[DP084|Hungry for the Good Life!]]''. It was part of {{si|Pokémon Mansion}} and was considered a relaxing spot for Pokémon. {{TRT}} put their plans into action to capture the Pokémon in the Trophy Garden with their [[Team Rocket's mechas|flying mecha]]. However, Dawn rescues them with the help of a gluttonous {{TP|Dawn|Swinub}}. After Team Rocket's defeat, Dawn catches the Swinub.<br />
{{-}}<br />
<br />
==In the manga==<br />
===In the Pokémon Adventures manga===<br />
In ''[[PS367|Suffering Psyduck]]'', [[Mr. Backlot]] shows the Trophy Garden to {{adv|Diamond}}, {{adv|Pearl}} and {{adv|Platinum}}. [[Cynthia]] then visits, discussing with Mr. Backlot about the Psyduck that disappeared from [[Amity Square]], and takes the trio with her to [[Route 210]].<br />
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==Trivia==<br />
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* The Trophy Garden is the first location where wild [[Eevee]] and [[Porygon]] could be caught; previously these Pokémon were only available as a [[gift Pokémon]]<br />
* The Trophy Garden is likely a reference to [https://www.complex.com/pop-culture/2013/01/the-10-most-bizarre-schoolyard-pokmon-rumors/bills-gardenmountainforrest Bill's Secret Garden], a rumor from [[Pokémon Red and Blue]] which claimed that rare Pokémon including [[starter Pokémon]] could be found behind [[Bill]]'s [[Sea Cottage]].<br />
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==In other languages==<br />
{{Langtable|color={{locationcolor/light|land}}|bordercolor={{locationcolor/dark|land}}<br />
|zh_yue=漂亮的後院 ''{{tt|Piuleuhng-dīk Hauhyún|Beautiful Backyard}}''<br />
|zh_cmn=最自豪的後院 ''{{tt|Zuìzìháo-de Hòuyuàn|Most Proud Backyard}}'' {{tt|*|Taiwan}}<br>最自豪的庭院 ''{{tt|Zuìzìháo-de Tíngyuàn|Most Proud Courtyard}}'' {{tt|*|Mainland China}} <br />
|fr_eu=Jardin Trophée<br />
|de=Trophäengarten<br />
|it=Giardino Trofeo<br />
|ko=자랑의 뒷마당 ''Jarang-yi Dwitmada''<br />
|es_eu=Jardín Trofeo<br />
|vi=Hậu viên Kiêu hãnh<br />
}}<br />
{{-}}<br />
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{{Sinnoh}}<br/><br />
{{Project Locations notice}}<br />
<br />
[[Category:Sinnoh locations]]<br />
[[Category:Diamond and Pearl locations]]<br />
[[Category:Platinum locations]]<br />
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[[de:Trophäengarten]]<br />
[[fr:Jardin trophée]]<br />
[[it:Giardino Trofeo]]<br />
[[ja:じまんのうらにわ]]<br />
[[zh:最自豪的後院]]</div>
Poppy Appletree
https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Sea_Cottage&diff=2883503
Talk:Sea Cottage
2018-11-20T12:53:30Z
<p>Poppy Appletree: /* Inclusion of Bill's Secret Garden rumour */ new section</p>
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<div>==Merge with Sea Cottage and Bill's Lighthouse?==<br />
<br />
Cerulean Cape and Sea Cottage are both stub articles. Bill's Lighthouse, while not a stub, is still quite short. All three deal with essentially the same material, though Bill's Lighthouse is only in the Anime, while the Sea Cottage is in the games and other canon. I think the three articles should be merge to flesh out one larger, better article that deals with Cerulean Cape and it's landmark of the Sea Cottage/Lighthouse as a whole rather than split into three small articles. [[User:Kumori Satosuke|Satosuke]] 14:51, 8 October 2008 (UTC)<br />
:I agree. [[User:Ht14|<span style="color:#D5AA00"><sup>''ht''</sup></span>]][[User talk:Ht14|<span style="color:#C0C0C0"><small>''14''</small></span>]] 13:55, 17 February 2009 (UTC)<br />
::I brought it up {{red link|Talk:Sea Cottage|here}} and I'm going to do it again. I agree as well.--[[User:Clarky13|<span style="color:#0000FF;">'''Clarky'''</span>]][[User talk:Clarky13|<span style="color:#000000;">'''13'''</span>]] 14:02, 17 February 2009 (UTC)<br />
:::I agree merging Sea Cottage with this one, but not sure of Bill's Lighthouse. We have tons of anime-exclusive location, so that one might belong to those. '''<span style="color:#A2958D">►</span>[[User:Kevzo8|<span style="color:#E3E3E3">Ҝə</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|<span style="color:#E6E6EE">υz</span>]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|<span style="color:#BBBBBB">ø8</span>]]''' 14:15, 17 February 2009 (UTC)<br />
::::I'll Do this now. But what should we call it?--[[User:Clarky13|<span style="color:#0000FF;">'''Clarky'''</span>]][[User talk:Clarky13|<span style="color:#000000;">'''13'''</span>]] 14:16, 17 February 2009 (UTC)<br />
:::::Cerulean Cape is fine. Just, um, redirect the old page to the new one next time you merge something :D &mdash; <small>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<font color="#0000C8">THE TROM</font></small>]] &mdash; 05:35, 18 February 2009 (UTC)<br />
::::::Yep. Got a bit into a edit war with that, but I added info to thee pages. :D--[[User:Clarky13|<span style="color:#0000FF;">'''Clarky'''</span>]][[User talk:Clarky13|<span style="color:#000000;">'''13'''</span>]] 05:50, 18 February 2009 (UTC)<br />
<br />
==Merge with Cerulean Cape and Bill's Lighthouse?==<br />
<br />
Cerulean Cape and Sea Cottage are both stub articles. Bill's Lighthouse, while not a stub, is still quite short. All three deal with essentially the same material, though Bill's Lighthouse is only in the Anime, while the Sea Cottage is in the games and other canon. I think the three articles should be merge to flesh out one larger, better article that deals with Cerulean Cape and it's landmark of the Sea Cottage/Lighthouse as a whole rather than split into three small articles. [[User:Kumori Satosuke|Satosuke]] 14:51, 8 October 2008 (UTC)<br />
:I am going to bring this up again. Satosuke makes a valid point, [[Bill's Lighthouse]] and Sea Cottage are both very short articles.--[[User:Clarky13|<span style="color:#0000FF;">'''Clarky'''</span>]][[User talk:Clarky13|<span style="color:#000000;">'''13'''</span>]] 13:32, 11 February 2009 (UTC)<br />
::The main discussion for this topic is located [[Talk:Sea Cottage#Merge with Sea Cottage and Bill's Lighthouse?|here]]. &mdash; <small>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<font color="#0000C8">THE TROM</font></small>]] &mdash; 05:35, 18 February 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Bill's Grandpa ==<br />
<br />
Okay, so I've shown Bill's grandpa all the pokemon he asks to see (in HGSS). Here's the list of pokemon and the stones you get in return:<br />
* Lickitung - Everstone<br />
* Oddish - Leaf Stone<br />
* Staryu - Water Stone<br />
* Vulpix - Fire Stone (in SS, possibly Growlithe in HG)<br />
* Pichu - Thunderstone<br />
Is this information worth including in this article? --[[User:Oatzy|Oatzy]] 22:04, 9 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
:I had to show him a Jigglypuff to get an Everstone, not a Lickitung. Could it be because we're playing different versions? I'm using HeartGold. --[[User:Paranoid Trainer|Paranoid Trainer]] 23:30, 10 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
::Yeah, probably is. I'm playing SoulSilver. Do you know if any of the others different?<br />
:::Well, Oddish and Pichu are definitely correct, and your Growlithe guess was on the money, but instead of a Staryu I'm being asked for a Marill. Or at least, the description matches Marill perfectly (round and blue, with a white belly and a floating tail end), but since I don't have one yet I can't confirm it yet. --[[User:Paranoid Trainer|Paranoid Trainer]] 00:05, 12 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::Sounds about right, yeah. What was the order he asked to see them in?--[[User:Oatzy|Oatzy]] 13:46, 14 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
:I have HeartGold, and can confirm that he asks for the Oddish first. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 15:06, 14 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
::I just confirmed Marill in HG. Oddish was first for me as well, followed by either Jigglypuff and Growlithe, and then the other. Sadly I can't recall with of them was second and which was third, but I'm almost certain Pichu was the 4th and Marill was definitely the last. --[[User:Paranoid Trainer|Paranoid Trainer]] 01:46, 15 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::Haven't gotten the Water Stone part yet, but in HG for me, it was Oddish, Growlithe, Jigglypuff, Pichu. [[User:Kumori Satosuke|Satosuke]] 17:47, 11 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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<br />
== SS Anne ticket ==<br />
Shouldn't this item be on the item list for R/B/Y and FR/LG? [[User:Moltres93|Moltres93]] 10:22, 21 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Inclusion of Bill's Secret Garden rumour ==<br />
<br />
I have added a section regarding the Bill's Secret Garden rumour. This is one of the most infamous rumours in Pokémon history, on par with [[the truck]] and [[Mewthree]], and I believe this should remain in the article. To this day articles are written about this - see the following links: [https://www.gamesradar.com/uk/rumors-everyone-believed-about-pokemon/] [https://www.techradar.com/uk/news/gaming/gotta-debunk-em-all-the-pokemon-rumors-and-urban-legends-we-all-fell-for-1315898] [https://www.thegamer.com/pokemon-areas-that-are-impossible-to-find-and-how-to-find-them/][https://www.thegamer.com/pokemon-areas-that-are-impossible-to-find-and-how-to-find-them/]. I genuinely think it cheapens the wiki not to mention the existence of this rumour, especially when it was seemingly referenced in the Generation IV games with the [[Trophy Garden]], similar to how the truck had a hidden [[lava cookie]] added as a nod to the rumours in FRLG. --[[User:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] [[User talk:Poppy Appletree|:3]] 12:53, 20 November 2018 (UTC)</div>
Poppy Appletree
https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Sea_Cottage&diff=2883502
Sea Cottage
2018-11-20T12:52:53Z
<p>Poppy Appletree: This is one of the most famous Pokémon rumours, on par with the truck outside the SS Anne, and Mewthree, both of which are mentioned in this wiki. Before removing this, please discuss this with me on the talk page.</p>
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<div>{{incomplete|2=Missing interior images}}<br />
{{Infobox location<br />
|image=Cerulean Cape HGSS.png<br />
|type=land<br />
|location_name=Sea Cottage <br />
|japanese_name={{tt|岬の小屋|みさきのこや}}<br />
|translated_name=Cape Cottage<br />
|location=Northeast of [[Cerulean City]] on {{rt|25|Kanto}}<br />
|region=Kanto<br />
|generation={{Gen|I}}, {{Gen|II}}, {{Gen|III}}, {{Gen|IV}}<br />
|map=Kanto Route 25 Map.png<br />
}}<br />
The '''Sea Cottage''' (Japanese: '''{{tt|岬の小屋|みさきのこや}}''' ''Cape Cottage'') is a small building located in the northeast of [[Kanto]] on {{rt|25|Kanto}}. It is on Cerulean Cape and is home to [[Bill]].<br />
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==In the games==<br />
[[File:Sea Cottage interior RBY.png|thumb|left|200px|Sea Cottage in {{game|Red and Blue|s}}]]<br />
[[File:Sea Cottage FRLG.png|thumb|right|200px|The Sea Cottage in [[Generation III]]]]<br />
In Generations {{gen|I}} and {{gen|III}}, the Sea Cottage is home to Bill. While experimenting with his Teleporter, he was accidentally combined with a {{p|Clefairy}}, and he asks the player to help him by running the Cell Separation System for him. After he is back to normal, he rewards the player with a [[S.S. Ticket|ticket]] for the [[S.S. Anne]]. Bill will also insist that the player look at the rare Pokémon on his computer: {{p|Eevee}}, {{p|Flareon}}, {{p|Jolteon}}, and {{p|Vaporeon}}.<br />
<br />
In Generations {{gen|II}} and {{gen|IV}}, [[Bill's grandfather]] is housesitting and will ask the player to show him certain Pokémon. In return, he will give out related [[evolutionary stone]]s.<br />
<br />
In [[Generation IV]], next to Bill's Sea Cottage, {{p|Suicune}} can be found and caught after it has finished wandering throughout [[Johto]] and [[Kanto]].<br />
{{left clear}}<br />
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==Items==<br />
{{Itlisth|land}}<br />
{{Itemlist|S.S. Ticket|Reward for helping [[Bill]] turn back to normal|R=yes|B=yes|Y=yes|FR=yes|LG=yes|LP=yes|LE=yes}}<br />
{{Itemlist|Everstone|Show [[Bill's grandfather]] a {{p|Lickitung}}|G=yes|S=yes|C=yes|SS=yes}}<br />
{{Itemlist|Everstone|Show Bill's grandfather a {{p|Jigglypuff}}|HG=yes}}<br />
{{Itemlist|Fire Stone|Show Bill's grandfather a {{p|Growlithe}}|G=yes|C=yes|HG=yes}}<br />
{{Itemlist|Fire Stone|Show Bill's grandfather a {{p|Vulpix}}|S=yes|SS=yes}}<br />
{{Itemlist|Leaf Stone|Show Bill's grandfather an {{p|Oddish}}|G=yes|S=yes|C=yes|HG=yes|SS=yes}}<br />
{{Itemlist|Thunder Stone|Show Bill's grandfather a {{p|Pichu}}|G=yes|S=yes|C=yes|HG=yes|SS=yes|display=[[Thunder Stone|Thunderstone]]}}<br />
{{Itemlist|Water Stone|Show Bill's grandfather a {{p|Staryu}}|G=yes|S=yes|C=yes|SS=yes}}<br />
{{Itemlist|Water Stone|Show Bill's grandfather a {{p|Marill}}|HG=yes}}<br />
{{itlistfoot|land}}<br />
<br />
==In the anime==<br />
[[File:Bill Lighthouse.png|thumb|250px|Bill's Lighthouse in the {{pkmn|anime}}]]<br />
{{main|Bill's Lighthouse}}<br />
While the Sea Cottage does not appear in the anime, the [[Bill's Lighthouse|lighthouse]] in ''[[EP013|Mystery at the Lighthouse]]'' fills the same purpose as the home of Bill.<br />
<br />
{{Ash}} and {{ashfr}} first stumbled across the lighthouse after Ash {{pkmn2|caught}} a {{AP|Krabby}} and it disappeared. When {{an|Brock}} explained that Krabby was sent to [[Professor Oak's Laboratory]] due to Ash already having six Pokémon [[party|on hand]], Ash immediately wanted to call {{an|Professor Oak}} to see if Krabby made it safely. Spotting the lighthouse, the group decided to visit it in the hopes of being able to use a phone there. At the lighthouse, the group met Bill, who told them about the history of the [[Pokémon world]]. He also told them about a {{pkmn2|giant}}, {{p|Dragonite|mysterious Pokémon}} that he had been researching. Coincidentally, that giant Pokémon ended up showing up at the lighthouse that night, but due to {{TRT}} attacking it, the Pokémon ended up destroying the lighthouse and leaving almost immediately, despite Bill's pleas for it to stay.<br />
{{-}}<br />
<br />
==In the manga==<br />
===In the Pokémon Adventures manga===<br />
[[File:Sea Cottage Adventures.png|thumb|230px|Sea Cottage in Pokémon Adventures]]<br />
The Sea Cottage debuted in ''[[PS009|...But Fearow Itself!]]'' as {{adv|Bill}}'s home and the place where he makes all of his inventions. Bill was transformed into a mutated {{p|Rattata}} by accident when he was fixing one of his two Pokémon Transporters. As a Rattata, Bill got snatched by a {{pkmn2|wild}} {{p|Fearow}}, which {{adv|Red}} saved him from before {{pkmn2|caught|catching}} it. Later Red helped Bill to turn back to normal, and as a thanks, Bill offered Red the chance to use the [[Pokémon Storage System]] to lessen the amount of Pokémon he had to carry around with him.<br />
<br />
The Sea Cottage reappeared in the {{chap|Yellow}}, where {{adv|Green}} snuck into the house in order to find information about the missing Red, believing the culprits behind his disappearance also having been behind her own childhood kidnapping. Bill, thinking she was a burglar, tried to attack her, but was quickly overpowered by [[Blasty]]. Green managed to convince Bill into helping her, but before they could find out anything other than that Red had withdrawn his [[Vee|Eevee]] from the Storage System after his disappearance, they were attacked by a {{p|Hitmonlee}}, which the [[Elite Four]] had sent after them, forcing the two to escape.<br />
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In the {{chap|Omega Ruby & Alpha Sapphire}}, it was revealed that Bill had kept the {{OBP|Ruby|item}} and {{OBP|Sapphire|item}} retrieved from [[Team Rocket]] during the {{chap|FireRed & LeafGreen}} at the Sea Cottage. Bill noticed that the gems had started changing back into the [[Colored orbs|orbs]] they had been before, and called Red and Green to his cottage to investigate, because {{adv|Blue}} was away from Kanto at the time. However, before Red and Green could reach the Sea Cottage, Bill was attacked by [[Maxie]] and [[Archie]], who stole the reforming orbs and headed towards [[Hoenn]] on Bill's boat.<br />
{{-}}<br />
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==Rumors==<br />
===Bill's Secret Garden===<br />
Due to the map featuring an open area behind the cottage in the Generation I games, a widely circulated rumor claimed that players could unlock an area known as "Bill's Secret Garden" where all manner of rare Pokémon could be found. [https://www.gamesradar.com/uk/rumors-everyone-believed-about-pokemon/][https://www.techradar.com/uk/news/gaming/gotta-debunk-em-all-the-pokemon-rumors-and-urban-legends-we-all-fell-for-1315898][https://www.thegamer.com/pokemon-areas-that-are-impossible-to-find-and-how-to-find-them/] Years later in an apparent nod to this rumor [[Diamond and Pearl]] included the [[Trophy Garden]], where after obtaining the [[National Pokédex]] players could catch rare Pokémon including Bill's signature Pokémon [[Eevee]] as a catchable Pokémon for the first time.<br />
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==Layout==<br />
{{mapgen<br />
|genI=Cerulean Cape RBY.png<br />
|sizeI=200px<br />
|genII=Cerulean Cape GSC.png<br />
|sizeII=170px<br />
|genIII=Cerulean Cape FRLG.png<br />
|sizeIII=250px<br />
|genIV=Cerulean Cape HGSS.png<br />
|sizeIV=250px<br />
}}<br />
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==In other languages==<br />
{{langtable|color={{locationcolor/med|land}}|bordercolor={{locationcolor/dark|land}}<br />
|zh_yue=海角小屋 ''{{tt|Hóigok Síu'ūk|Cape Cottage}}'' {{tt|*|Games}}<br>海岸小屋 ''{{tt|Hóingohn Síu'ūk|Seaside Cottage}}'' {{tt|*|Manga}}<br />
|zh_cmn=海角小屋 ''{{tt|Hǎijiǎo Xiǎowū|Cape Cottage}}'' {{tt|*|Games}}<br>海岸小屋 ''{{tt|Hǎi'àn Xiǎowū|Seaside Cottage}}'' {{tt|*|Manga}}<br />
|fr=Villa du Cap<br />
|de=Küstenhaus<br />
|it=Miramare<br />
|ko=호수공원의 오두막 ''{{tt|Hosugongwon-ui Odumak|Lake Park Cottage}}''<br />
|pt_br=Casebre do Litoral (manga)<br>Chalé do Mar (The Official Pokémon Handbook)<br />
|ru=Дом на побережье ''Dom na poberezh'ye''<br />
|es=Casa del Mar<br>Casa del mar{{sup/4|HGSS}}<br />
|vi=Căn hộ trên mũi đất<br />
}}<br />
<br />
==See also==<br />
* {{rt|25|Kanto}}<br />
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{{Kanto}}<br><br />
{{Project Locations notice}}<br />
<br />
[[Category:Kanto locations]]<br />
[[Category:Red, Blue and Yellow locations]]<br />
[[Category:Gold, Silver and Crystal locations]]<br />
[[Category:FireRed and LeafGreen locations]]<br />
[[Category:HeartGold and SoulSilver locations]]<br />
[[Category:Let's Go, Pikachu! and Let's Go, Eevee! locations]]<br />
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[[de:Bills Küstenhaus]]<br />
[[it:Miramare]]<br />
[[ja:みさきのこや]]<br />
[[zh:海角小屋]]</div>
Poppy Appletree
https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Trophy_Garden&diff=2883499
Trophy Garden
2018-11-20T12:29:55Z
<p>Poppy Appletree: Previous edit summary suggests user hasn't read my edit; citation for the existence of the rumour was provided, and it is extremely prolific. User should contact me before reverting this change.</p>
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<div>{{spading|Counter reset clarification: is the 24-hour counter for DP, Pt, or both?}}<br />
{{incomplete|2=Missing layout map for Diamond and Pearl (different grass sprites)}}<br />
{{Infobox location<br />
|image=Trophy Garden DPPt.png<br />
|type=land<br />
|location_name=Trophy Garden<br />
|japanese_name=じまんのうらにわ<br />
|translated_name=Pride Backyard<br />
|location={{si|Pokémon Mansion}}<br />
|region=Sinnoh<br />
|generation={{gen|IV}}<br />
|map=Sinnoh Route 212 Map.png<br />
}}<br />
<br />
The '''Trophy Garden''' (Japanese: '''じまんのうらにわ''' ''Pride Backyard'') is an area located on {{rt|212|Sinnoh}} where many rare Pokémon can be caught. It is located behind the {{si|Pokémon Mansion}}.<br />
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There are many Pokémon that can be found here without any interaction with the Trophy Garden's owner, [[Mr. Backlot]]. All of these Pokémon are in the [[List of Pokémon by Sinnoh Pokédex number|Sinnoh Pokédex]], and many can be found in other areas. After the {{player}} has gotten the [[National Pokédex]] upgrade, however, Pokémon that do not otherwise appear in Sinnoh will be placed in the Trophy Garden by Backlot's butler to cover up for his fibs, with a different one there daily. The counter is not reset at midnight, but after 24 hours. It is possible to have Backlot mention a different Pokémon, simply by soft-resetting. The last two Pokémon placed in the garden at any given time will remain available until more Pokémon are placed in the garden.<br />
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==Pokémon==<br />
{{catch/header|land}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|025|Pikachu|yes|yes|no|Grass|18|all=10%|type1=Electric}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|025|Pikachu|no|no|yes|Grass|22, 24|all=10%|type1=Electric}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|172|Pichu|yes|yes|no|Grass|16|30%|10%|10%|type1=Electric}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|172|Pichu|no|no|yes|Grass|21-22|all=30%|type1=Electric}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|315|Roselia|yes|yes|no|Grass|16-17|all=30%|type1=Grass|type2=Poison}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|315|Roselia|no|no|yes|Grass|22-23|all=30%|type1=Grass|type2=Poison}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|397|Staravia|yes|yes|no|Grass|16-17|20%|40%|20%|type2=Flying}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|397|Staravia|no|no|yes|Grass|22-24|20%|30%|10%|type2=Flying}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|402|Kricketune|yes|yes|no|Grass|16-17|10%|10%|30%|type1=Bug}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|402|Kricketune|no|no|yes|Grass|22-23|10%|0%|20%|type1=Bug}}<br />
{{catch/div|land|Special}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|035|Clefairy|yes|yes|yes|Backlot|16, 18|all=5%|type1=Normal}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|039|Jigglypuff|yes|yes|no|Backlot|16, 18|all=5%|type1=Normal}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|039|Jigglypuff|no|no|yes|Backlot|22|all=5%|type1=Normal}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|052|Meowth|yes|yes|no|Backlot|16, 18|all=5%|type1=Normal}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|052|Meowth|no|no|yes|Backlot|22|all=5%|type1=Normal}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|113|Chansey|yes|yes|no|Backlot|16, 18|all=5%|type1=Normal}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|113|Chansey|no|no|yes|Backlot|22|all=5%|type1=Normal}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|132|Ditto|no|no|yes|Backlot|22|all=5%|type1=Normal}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|133|Eevee|yes|yes|no|Backlot|16, 18|all=5%|type1=Normal}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|133|Eevee|no|no|yes|Backlot|22|all=5%|type1=Normal}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|137|Porygon|yes|yes|no|Backlot|16, 18|all=5%|type1=Normal}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|173|Cleffa|yes|yes|yes|Backlot|16, 18|all=5%|type1=Normal}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|174|Igglybuff|yes|yes|no|Backlot|16, 18|all=5%|type1=Normal}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|174|Igglybuff|no|no|yes|Backlot|22|all=5%|type1=Normal}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|183|Marill|yes|yes|yes|Backlot|16, 18|all=5%|type1=Water}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|298|Azurill|yes|yes|yes|Backlot|16, 18|all=5%|type1=Normal}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|311|Plusle|yes|yes|yes|Backlot|16, 18|all=5%|type1=Electric}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|312|Minun|yes|yes|yes|Backlot|16, 18|all=5%|type1=Electric}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|351|Castform|yes|yes|yes|Backlot|16, 18|all=5%|type1=Normal}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|438|Bonsly|yes|yes|yes|Backlot|16, 18|all=5%|type1=Rock}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|439|Mime Jr.|yes|yes|yes|Backlot|16, 18|all=5%|type1=Psychic}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|440|Happiny|yes|yes|yes|Backlot|16, 18, 22|all=5%|type1=Normal}}<br />
{{catch/footer|land}}<br />
<br />
==In the anime==<br />
[[File:Trophy Garden anime.png|thumb|200px|Trophy Garden in the anime]]<br />
The Trophy Garden was featured in ''[[DP084|Hungry for the Good Life!]]''. It was part of {{si|Pokémon Mansion}} and was considered a relaxing spot for Pokémon. {{TRT}} put their plans into action to capture the Pokémon in the Trophy Garden with their [[Team Rocket's mechas|flying mecha]]. However, Dawn rescues them with the help of a gluttonous {{TP|Dawn|Swinub}}. After Team Rocket's defeat, Dawn catches the Swinub.<br />
{{-}}<br />
<br />
==In the manga==<br />
===In the Pokémon Adventures manga===<br />
In ''[[PS367|Suffering Psyduck]]'', [[Mr. Backlot]] shows the Trophy Garden to {{adv|Diamond}}, {{adv|Pearl}} and {{adv|Platinum}}. [[Cynthia]] then visits, discussing with Mr. Backlot about the Psyduck that disappeared from [[Amity Square]], and takes the trio with her to [[Route 210]].<br />
<br />
==Trivia==<br />
<br />
* The Trophy Garden is the first location where wild [[Eevee]] and [[Porygon]] could be caught; previously these Pokémon were only available as a [[gift Pokémon]]<br />
* The Trophy Garden is likely a reference to [https://www.complex.com/pop-culture/2013/01/the-10-most-bizarre-schoolyard-pokmon-rumors/bills-gardenmountainforrest Bill's Secret Garden], a rumour from [[Pokémon Red and Blue]] which claimed that rare Pokémon including [[starter Pokémon]] could be found behind [[Bill]]'s [[Sea Cottage]].<br />
<br />
==In other languages==<br />
{{Langtable|color={{locationcolor/light|land}}|bordercolor={{locationcolor/dark|land}}<br />
|zh_yue=漂亮的後院 ''{{tt|Piuleuhng-dīk Hauhyún|Beautiful Backyard}}''<br />
|zh_cmn=最自豪的後院 ''{{tt|Zuìzìháo-de Hòuyuàn|Most Proud Backyard}}'' {{tt|*|Taiwan}}<br>最自豪的庭院 ''{{tt|Zuìzìháo-de Tíngyuàn|Most Proud Courtyard}}'' {{tt|*|Mainland China}} <br />
|fr_eu=Jardin Trophée<br />
|de=Trophäengarten<br />
|it=Giardino Trofeo<br />
|ko=자랑의 뒷마당 ''Jarang-yi Dwitmada''<br />
|es_eu=Jardín Trofeo<br />
|vi=Hậu viên Kiêu hãnh<br />
}}<br />
{{-}}<br />
<br />
{{Sinnoh}}<br/><br />
{{Project Locations notice}}<br />
<br />
[[Category:Sinnoh locations]]<br />
[[Category:Diamond and Pearl locations]]<br />
[[Category:Platinum locations]]<br />
<br />
[[de:Trophäengarten]]<br />
[[fr:Jardin trophée]]<br />
[[it:Giardino Trofeo]]<br />
[[ja:じまんのうらにわ]]<br />
[[zh:最自豪的後院]]</div>
Poppy Appletree
https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Trophy_Garden&diff=2883482
Trophy Garden
2018-11-20T11:47:18Z
<p>Poppy Appletree: Adding trivia notes c:</p>
<hr />
<div>{{spading|Counter reset clarification: is the 24-hour counter for DP, Pt, or both?}}<br />
{{incomplete|2=Missing layout map for Diamond and Pearl (different grass sprites)}}<br />
{{Infobox location<br />
|image=Trophy Garden DPPt.png<br />
|type=land<br />
|location_name=Trophy Garden<br />
|japanese_name=じまんのうらにわ<br />
|translated_name=Pride Backyard<br />
|location={{si|Pokémon Mansion}}<br />
|region=Sinnoh<br />
|generation={{gen|IV}}<br />
|map=Sinnoh Route 212 Map.png<br />
}}<br />
<br />
The '''Trophy Garden''' (Japanese: '''じまんのうらにわ''' ''Pride Backyard'') is an area located on {{rt|212|Sinnoh}} where many rare Pokémon can be caught. It is located behind the {{si|Pokémon Mansion}}.<br />
<br />
There are many Pokémon that can be found here without any interaction with the Trophy Garden's owner, [[Mr. Backlot]]. All of these Pokémon are in the [[List of Pokémon by Sinnoh Pokédex number|Sinnoh Pokédex]], and many can be found in other areas. After the {{player}} has gotten the [[National Pokédex]] upgrade, however, Pokémon that do not otherwise appear in Sinnoh will be placed in the Trophy Garden by Backlot's butler to cover up for his fibs, with a different one there daily. The counter is not reset at midnight, but after 24 hours. It is possible to have Backlot mention a different Pokémon, simply by soft-resetting. The last two Pokémon placed in the garden at any given time will remain available until more Pokémon are placed in the garden.<br />
<br />
==Pokémon==<br />
{{catch/header|land}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|025|Pikachu|yes|yes|no|Grass|18|all=10%|type1=Electric}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|025|Pikachu|no|no|yes|Grass|22, 24|all=10%|type1=Electric}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|172|Pichu|yes|yes|no|Grass|16|30%|10%|10%|type1=Electric}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|172|Pichu|no|no|yes|Grass|21-22|all=30%|type1=Electric}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|315|Roselia|yes|yes|no|Grass|16-17|all=30%|type1=Grass|type2=Poison}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|315|Roselia|no|no|yes|Grass|22-23|all=30%|type1=Grass|type2=Poison}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|397|Staravia|yes|yes|no|Grass|16-17|20%|40%|20%|type2=Flying}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|397|Staravia|no|no|yes|Grass|22-24|20%|30%|10%|type2=Flying}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|402|Kricketune|yes|yes|no|Grass|16-17|10%|10%|30%|type1=Bug}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|402|Kricketune|no|no|yes|Grass|22-23|10%|0%|20%|type1=Bug}}<br />
{{catch/div|land|Special}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|035|Clefairy|yes|yes|yes|Backlot|16, 18|all=5%|type1=Normal}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|039|Jigglypuff|yes|yes|no|Backlot|16, 18|all=5%|type1=Normal}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|039|Jigglypuff|no|no|yes|Backlot|22|all=5%|type1=Normal}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|052|Meowth|yes|yes|no|Backlot|16, 18|all=5%|type1=Normal}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|052|Meowth|no|no|yes|Backlot|22|all=5%|type1=Normal}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|113|Chansey|yes|yes|no|Backlot|16, 18|all=5%|type1=Normal}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|113|Chansey|no|no|yes|Backlot|22|all=5%|type1=Normal}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|132|Ditto|no|no|yes|Backlot|22|all=5%|type1=Normal}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|133|Eevee|yes|yes|no|Backlot|16, 18|all=5%|type1=Normal}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|133|Eevee|no|no|yes|Backlot|22|all=5%|type1=Normal}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|137|Porygon|yes|yes|no|Backlot|16, 18|all=5%|type1=Normal}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|173|Cleffa|yes|yes|yes|Backlot|16, 18|all=5%|type1=Normal}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|174|Igglybuff|yes|yes|no|Backlot|16, 18|all=5%|type1=Normal}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|174|Igglybuff|no|no|yes|Backlot|22|all=5%|type1=Normal}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|183|Marill|yes|yes|yes|Backlot|16, 18|all=5%|type1=Water}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|298|Azurill|yes|yes|yes|Backlot|16, 18|all=5%|type1=Normal}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|311|Plusle|yes|yes|yes|Backlot|16, 18|all=5%|type1=Electric}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|312|Minun|yes|yes|yes|Backlot|16, 18|all=5%|type1=Electric}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|351|Castform|yes|yes|yes|Backlot|16, 18|all=5%|type1=Normal}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|438|Bonsly|yes|yes|yes|Backlot|16, 18|all=5%|type1=Rock}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|439|Mime Jr.|yes|yes|yes|Backlot|16, 18|all=5%|type1=Psychic}}<br />
{{catch/entry4|440|Happiny|yes|yes|yes|Backlot|16, 18, 22|all=5%|type1=Normal}}<br />
{{catch/footer|land}}<br />
<br />
==In the anime==<br />
[[File:Trophy Garden anime.png|thumb|200px|Trophy Garden in the anime]]<br />
The Trophy Garden was featured in ''[[DP084|Hungry for the Good Life!]]''. It was part of {{si|Pokémon Mansion}} and was considered a relaxing spot for Pokémon. {{TRT}} put their plans into action to capture the Pokémon in the Trophy Garden with their [[Team Rocket's mechas|flying mecha]]. However, Dawn rescues them with the help of a gluttonous {{TP|Dawn|Swinub}}. After Team Rocket's defeat, Dawn catches the Swinub.<br />
{{-}}<br />
<br />
==In the manga==<br />
===In the Pokémon Adventures manga===<br />
In ''[[PS367|Suffering Psyduck]]'', [[Mr. Backlot]] shows the Trophy Garden to {{adv|Diamond}}, {{adv|Pearl}} and {{adv|Platinum}}. [[Cynthia]] then visits, discussing with Mr. Backlot about the Psyduck that disappeared from [[Amity Square]], and takes the trio with her to [[Route 210]].<br />
<br />
==Trivia==<br />
<br />
* The Trophy Garden is the first location where wild [[Eevee]] and [[Porygon]] could be caught; previously these Pokémon were only available as a [[gift Pokémon]]<br />
* The Trophy Garden is likely a reference to [https://www.complex.com/pop-culture/2013/01/the-10-most-bizarre-schoolyard-pokmon-rumors/bills-gardenmountainforrest Bill's Secret Garden], a rumour from [[Pokémon Red and Blue]] which claimed that rare Pokémon including [[starter Pokémon]] could be found behind [[Bill]]'s [[Sea Cottage]].<br />
<br />
==In other languages==<br />
{{Langtable|color={{locationcolor/light|land}}|bordercolor={{locationcolor/dark|land}}<br />
|zh_yue=漂亮的後院 ''{{tt|Piuleuhng-dīk Hauhyún|Beautiful Backyard}}''<br />
|zh_cmn=最自豪的後院 ''{{tt|Zuìzìháo-de Hòuyuàn|Most Proud Backyard}}'' {{tt|*|Taiwan}}<br>最自豪的庭院 ''{{tt|Zuìzìháo-de Tíngyuàn|Most Proud Courtyard}}'' {{tt|*|Mainland China}} <br />
|fr_eu=Jardin Trophée<br />
|de=Trophäengarten<br />
|it=Giardino Trofeo<br />
|ko=자랑의 뒷마당 ''Jarang-yi Dwitmada''<br />
|es_eu=Jardín Trofeo<br />
|vi=Hậu viên Kiêu hãnh<br />
}}<br />
{{-}}<br />
<br />
{{Sinnoh}}<br/><br />
{{Project Locations notice}}<br />
<br />
[[Category:Sinnoh locations]]<br />
[[Category:Diamond and Pearl locations]]<br />
[[Category:Platinum locations]]<br />
<br />
[[de:Trophäengarten]]<br />
[[fr:Jardin trophée]]<br />
[[it:Giardino Trofeo]]<br />
[[ja:じまんのうらにわ]]<br />
[[zh:最自豪的後院]]</div>
Poppy Appletree
https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Soundproof_(Ability)&diff=2686645
Soundproof (Ability)
2017-09-08T09:22:34Z
<p>Poppy Appletree: Correcting generation introduced</p>
<hr />
<div>{{AbilityInfobox<br />
|name=Soundproof<br />
|jpname=ぼうおん<br />
|jptrans=Soundproof<br />
|jptranslit=Bōon<br />
|colorscheme=normal<br />
|gen=3<br />
|text3=Avoids sound-based moves.<br />
|text4=Gives full immunity to all sound-based moves.<br />
|text5=Gives full immunity to all sound-based moves.<br />
|text6=Gives full immunity to all sound-based moves.<br />
|text7=Soundproofing of the Pokémon itself gives full immunity to all sound-based moves. <br />
}}<br />
'''Soundproof''' (Japanese: '''ぼうおん''' ''Soundproof'') is an [[Ability]] introduced in [[Generation III]].<br />
<br />
==Effect==<br />
===In battle===<br />
====Generation III to IV====<br />
Soundproof prevents all effect from {{Cat|sound-based moves}}, granting Pokémon with this Ability immunity from them.<br />
<br />
In {{game|FireRed and LeafGreen|s}}, a {{status|sleep}}ing Pokémon with this Ability cannot be woken with a [[Poké Flute]]. From Generation III to IV, Pokémon with this Ability can still fall asleep during an {{m|uproar}}.<br />
<br />
====Generation V onward====<br />
Pokémon with Soundproof can now be affected by {{m|Heal Bell}}.<br />
<br />
====Sound-based moves====<br />
The Ability affects the following moves:<br />
{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; background:#{{normal color}}; border:5px solid #{{normal color dark}}"<br />
|-<br />
|<br />
{| border=1 width="100%" class="sortable" style="margin:auto; background:#FFF; border:1px solid #{{normal color light}}; border-collapse:collapse"<br />
|- style="background:#{{normal color light}}"<br />
! {{color2|000|Move}}<br />
! {{color2|000|Type}}<br />
! {{color2|000|Damage category|Cat.}}<br />
! Gen.<br />
{{movelist|Boomburst|Normal|cat=Special|VI+}}<br />
{{movelist|Bug Buzz|Bug|cat=Special|IV+}}<br />
{{movelist|Chatter|Flying|cat=Special|IV+}}<br />
{{movelist|Clanging Scales|Dragon|cat=Special|VII+}}<br />
{{movelist|Confide|Normal|cat=Status|VI+}}<br />
{{movelist|Disarming Voice|Fairy|cat=Special|VI+}}<br />
{{movelist|Echoed Voice|Normal|cat=Special|V+}}<br />
{{movelist|Grass Whistle|Grass|cat=Status|III+}}<br />
{{movelist|Growl|Normal|cat=Status|III+}}<br />
{{movelist|Heal Bell|Normal|cat=Status|III-IV, VI+}}<br />
{{movelist|Hyper Voice|Normal|cat=Special|III+}}<br />
{{movelist|Metal Sound|Steel|cat=Status|III+}}<br />
{{movelist|Noble Roar|Normal|cat=Status|VI+}}<br />
{{movelist|Parting Shot|Dark|cat=Status|VI+}}<br />
{{movelist|Perish Song|Normal|cat=Status|III+}}<br />
{{movelist|Relic Song|Normal|cat=Special|V+}}<br />
{{movelist|Roar|Normal|cat=Status|III+}}<br />
{{movelist|Round|Normal|cat=Special|V+}}<br />
{{movelist|Screech|Normal|cat=Status|III+}}<br />
{{movelist|Shadow Panic|Shadow|cat=Status|note=Shadow move that only exists in Pokémon XD|III}}<br />
{{movelist|Sing|Normal|cat=Status|III+}}<br />
{{movelist|Snarl|Dark|cat=Special|V+}}<br />
{{movelist|Snore|Normal|cat=Special|III+}}<br />
{{movelist|Sparkling Aria|Water|cat=Special|VII+}}<br />
{{movelist|Supersonic|Normal|cat=Status|III+}}<br />
{{movelist|Uproar|Normal|cat=Special|III+}}<br />
|}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
===Outside of battle===<br />
Soundproof has no effect outside of battle.<br />
<br />
==Pokémon with Soundproof==<br />
{{Ability/head|Normal}}<br />
{{Ability/entry|100|Voltorb|Electric|Electric|Soundproof|Static|Aftermath}}<br />
{{Ability/entry|101|Electrode|Electric|Electric|Soundproof|Static|Aftermath}}<br />
{{Ability/entry|122|Mr. Mime|Psychic|Fairy|Soundproof|Filter|Technician}}<br />
{{Ability/entry|293|Whismur|Normal|Normal|Soundproof|None|Rattled}}<br />
{{Ability/entry|294|Loudred|Normal|Normal|Soundproof|None|Scrappy}}<br />
{{Ability/entry|295|Exploud|Normal|Normal|Soundproof|None|Scrappy}}<br />
{{Ability/entry|410|Shieldon|Rock|Steel|Sturdy|None|Soundproof}}<br />
{{Ability/entry|411|Bastiodon|Rock|Steel|Sturdy|None|Soundproof}}<br />
{{Ability/entry|439|Mime Jr.|Psychic|Fairy|Soundproof|Filter|Technician}}<br />
{{Ability/entry|459|Snover|Grass|Ice|Snow Warning|None|Soundproof}}<br />
{{Ability/entry|460|Abomasnow|Grass|Ice|Snow Warning|None|Soundproof}}<br />
{{Ability/entry|626|Bouffalant|Normal|Normal|Reckless|Sap Sipper|Soundproof}}<br />
{{Ability/entry|782|Jangmo-o|Dragon|Dragon|Bulletproof|Soundproof|Overcoat}}<br />
{{Ability/entry|783|Hakamo-o|Dragon|Fighting|Bulletproof|Soundproof|Overcoat}}<br />
{{Ability/entry|784|Kommo-o|Dragon|Fighting|Bulletproof|Soundproof|Overcoat}}<br />
{{Ability/foot|Normal}}<br />
<br />
==In the anime==<br />
{{moveanime|type=normal|exp=yes|gen=The Pokémon is immune to any sound-based attacks.|image1=Alanna Whismur Soundproof.png|image1p=Whismur|image2=Mitch Mitchum Loudred Soundproof.png|image2p=Loudred}}<br />
{{movep|type=normal|ms=293|pkmn=Whismur|method=When a sound-based attack is used on Whismur, it acts like it didn't hear anything.}}<br />
{{movemid|type=normal|user=Alanna|user1=Alanna's Whismur|startcode=AG039|startname=A Poké-BLOCK Party|notes=Debut}}<br />
{{movep|type=normal|ms=294|pkmn=Loudred|method=When a sound-based attack is used on Loudred, it acts like it didn't hear anything.}}<br />
{{movebtm|type=normal|user=Mitch Mitchum|user1=Mitch Mitchum's Loudred|startcode=AG138|startname=Rough, Tough Jigglypuff}}<br />
<br />
==In the manga==<br />
===In the Pokémon Adventures manga===<br />
{{movemanga|type=normal|exp=yes|gen=The Pokémon is immune to any sound-based attacks.|image1=Loudred Soundproof Adventures.png|image1p=Loudred}}<br />
{{movep|type=normal|ms=294|pkmn=Loudred|method=When a sound-based attack is used on Loudred, it doesn't affect it at all.}}<br />
{{movebtmManga|type=normal|user=Loudred (Pokémon)|user1=The Battle Factory's Loudred|startcode=PS427|startname=Uprooting Seedot|notes=Debut}}<br />
<br />
==In other languages==<br />
{{Langtable|color={{normal color}}|bordercolor={{normal color dark}}<br />
|zh_yue=隔音 ''{{tt|Gaakyām|Soundproof}}'' {{tt|*|Games}}<br>防音 ''{{tt|Fòhngyām|Soundproof}}'' {{tt|*|Anime}}<br />
|zh_cmn=隔音 ''{{tt|Géyīn|Soundproof}}'' {{tt|*|Games & Guidebook}}<br>防音 ''{{tt|Fángyīn|Soundproof}}'' {{tt|*|Anime}}<br />
|nl=Geluiddicht<br />
|fi=Äänisuojaus<br />
|fr=Anti-Bruit<br />
|de=Lärmschutz<br />
|it=Antisuono<br />
|ko=방음 ''Bang'eum''<br />
|pt=À Prova de Som<br />
|ru=Звукоизоляция ''Zvukoizolyatsiya''<br />
|es=Insonorizar<br />
}}<br />
{{-}}<br />
{{AbilityVariations|Soundproof|Cacophony|color=Normal|1color={{normal color dark}}|2color={{??? color dark}}}}<br><br />
{{Project Moves and Abilities notice}}<br />
<br />
[[Category:Abilities that alter damage taken]]<br />
<br />
[[de:Lärmschutz]]<br />
[[fr:Anti-Bruit]]<br />
[[it:Antisuono (abilità)]]<br />
[[ja:ぼうおん]]<br />
[[pl:Soundproof (zdolność)]]<br />
[[zh:隔音(特性)]]</div>
Poppy Appletree
https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Blastoise_(Boundaries_Crossed_31)&diff=2346277
Blastoise (Boundaries Crossed 31)
2015-10-19T15:00:14Z
<p>Poppy Appletree: This card is a homage to the original Blastoise.</p>
<hr />
<div>{{PokémoncardInfobox<br />
|cardname=Blastoise<br />
|jname=カメックス<br />
|jtrans=Kamex<br />
|image=BlastoiseBoundariesCrossed31.jpg<br />
|caption={{TCG|Boundaries Crossed}} print<br>Illus. [[Satoshi Shirai]]<br />
|reprints=3<br />
|reprint1=BlastoisePlasmaStorm137.jpg<br />
|recaption1={{TCG|Plasma Storm}} print<br>Illus. [[Ayaka Yoshida]]<br />
|reprint2=BlastoisePlasmaBlast16.jpg<br />
|recaption2={{TCG|Plasma Blast}} print<br>Illus. [[Satoshi Shirai]]<br />
|species=Blastoise<br />
|evostage=Stage 2<br />
|evospecies=Wartortle<br />
|evoname=Wartortle<br />
|evoicon=008<br />
|type=Water<br />
|hp=140<br />
|weakness=Grass<br />
|retreatcost=4<br />
}}<br />
{{PokémoncardInfobox/Expansion|type=Water|expansion={{TCG|Boundaries Crossed}}|rarity={{rar|Rare Holo}}|cardno=31/149|jpexpansion={{TCG|Cold Flare}}|jprarity={{rar|R}}|jpcardno=014/059}}<br />
{{PokémoncardInfobox/Expansion|type=Water|expansion={{TCG|Plasma Storm}}|rarity={{rar|Rare Secret}}|cardno=137/135|jpexpansion={{TCG|Plasma Gale}}|jprarity={{rar|UR}}|jpcardno=078/070}}<br />
{{PokémoncardInfobox/Expansion|type=Water|expansion={{TCG|Plasma Blast}}|rarity={{rar|Rare Holo}}|cardno=16/101|jpdeck={{TCG|Blastoise + Kyurem-EX Combo Deck}}|jpcardno=003/018}}<br />
{{PokémoncardInfobox/Expansion|type=Water|expansion={{TCG|Miscellaneous Promotional cards}}}}<br />
{{PokémoncardInfobox/Footer|type=Water|species=Blastoise}}<br />
<br />
'''Blastoise''' (Japanese: '''カメックス''' ''Kamex'') is a {{ct|Water}} Stage 2 Pokémon card. It was first released as part of the {{TCG|Boundaries Crossed}} expansion.<br />
<br />
==Card text==<br />
{{Cardtext/Header|type=Water}}<br />
{{Cardtext/Ability<br />
|type=Water<br />
|name=Deluge<br />
|jname=ばくりゅう<br />
|jtrans=Streaming Waterfall<br />
|effect=As often as you like during your turn ''(before your attack)'', you may attach a {{e|Water}} Energy from your hand to 1 of your Pokémon.<br />
}}<br />
{{Cardtext/Attack<br />
|type=Water<br />
|cost={{e|Colorless}}{{e|Colorless}}{{e|Colorless}}{{e|Colorless}}<br />
|name=Hydro Pump<br />
|jname=ハイドロポンプ<br />
|jtrans=Hydro Pump<br />
|damage=60+<br />
|effect=Does 10 more damage for each {{e|Water}} Energy attached to this Pokémon.<br />
}}<br />
{{Cardtext/Footer}}<br />
<br />
===Pokédex data (Rare Holo prints)===<br />
{{Carddex<br />
|type=Water<br />
|name=Blastoise<br />
|species=Shellfish<br />
|ndex=009<br />
|height=5'03"<br />
|jheight=1.6<br />
|weight=188.5<br />
|jweight=85.5<br />
|dex=The jets of water it spouts from the rocket cannons on its shell can punch through thick steel.<br />
|jdex=こうらの ロケットほうから ふきだす すいりゅうは ぶあつい てっぱんも いっぱつで つらぬく はかいりょく。<br />
}}<br />
<br />
===Pokédex data (Secret print)===<br />
{{Carddex<br />
|type=Water<br />
|name=Blastoise<br />
|species=Shellfish<br />
|ndex=009<br />
|height=5'03"<br />
|jheight=1.6<br />
|weight=188.5<br />
|jweight=85.5<br />
|dex=This extremely rare Pokémon is a different color than usual. It is very hard to find.<br />
|jdex=通常とは 色の 異なる とても 珍しい ポケモン。 出会うことは かなり 難しい。<br />
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==Release information==<br />
This card was printed in the English {{TCG|Boundaries Crossed}} expansion, first released in the Japanese {{TCG|Cold Flare}} expansion, with artwork by [[Satoshi Shirai]]. A Non Holofoil print was included in the {{TCG|Ice Shock}} {{TCG|Theme Deck}}. It was reprinted in the English {{TCG|Plasma Storm}} expansion with different artwork by [[Ayaka Yoshida]] as an Ultra-Rare {{TCG|Secret card}}, first included in the Japanese {{TCG|Plasma Gale}} expansion. It received new artwork by Satoshi Shirai when released in the English {{TCG|Plasma Blast}} expansion, coming from the Japanese {{TCG|Blastoise + Kyurem-EX Combo Deck}}, with a Non Holofoil print included with the expansion's {{TCG|Solar Strike}} Theme Deck.<br />
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A Cosmos Holofoil print of the Plasma Blast print was included in {{TCGMerch|XY|Series|XY Two Pack Blisters}}, released on February 5, 2014. This print erroneously lists the copyright as ©2012, even though the Plasma Blast expansion was released in 2013 and the Blister Packs in 2014. A corrected copy of this print was later included in the {{TCGMerch|XY|Series|XY Knock Out Collection}} and {{TCGMerch|XY|Series|XY Kanto Two Pack Blisters}}, the latter released in May 2015.<br />
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===Gallery===<br />
{{TCGGallery<br />
|type=Water<br />
|image1=BlastoiseBoundariesCrossed31.jpg<br />
|set1=Boundaries Crossed<br />
|illus1=Satoshi Shirai<br />
|image2=BlastoisePlasmaStorm137.jpg<br />
|set2=Plasma Storm<br />
|illus2=Ayaka Yoshida<br />
|image3=BlastoisePlasmaBlast16.jpg<br />
|set3=Plasma Blast<br />
|illus3=Satoshi Shirai<br />
}}<br />
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==Trivia==<br />
===Origin===<br />
{{m|Hydro Pump}} is a [[move]] in the [[Pokémon games]] that {{p|Blastoise}} can learn. This card's {{TCG|Boundaries Crossed}} and {{TCG|Plasma Blast}} [[Pokédex]] entry comes from {{game|Black and White|s|Pokémon Black 2 and White 2|2}}. The {{TCG|Plasma Storm}} print features the {{pkmn2|Shiny}} version of {{p|Blastoise}}. This card can be seen as an updated version of the original [[Base Set (TCG)|Base Set]] [[Blastoise (Base Set 2)|Blastoise]], as it shares the same ability (albeit renamed) and the same attack as that card.<br />
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[[Category:Boundaries Crossed cards]]<br />
[[Category:Cold Flare cards]]<br />
[[Category:Plasma Storm cards]]<br />
[[Category:Plasma Gale cards]]<br />
[[Category:Plasma Blast cards]]<br />
[[Category:Blastoise + Kyurem-EX Combo Deck cards]]<br />
[[Category:Illus. by Satoshi Shirai]]<br />
[[Category:Illus. by Ayaka Yoshida]]<br />
[[Category:Holographic cards]]<br />
[[Category:Secret cards]]<br />
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Poppy Appletree
https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Zap_Cannon_(move)&diff=2164747
Talk:Zap Cannon (move)
2014-08-22T15:16:25Z
<p>Poppy Appletree: /* Paralysis before Colour Change? */ new section</p>
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<div>== Paralysis before Colour Change? ==<br />
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The article for [[Inferno (move)#Effect|Inferno]] notes that Inferno will cause a burn before [[Color Change|Colour Change]] takes effect. From Generation VI onwards Electric-type Pokémon are now immune to paralysis - do we know if Zap Cannon causes paralysis before Colour Change changes the opponent's type to Electric? --[[User:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] [[User talk:Poppy Appletree|:3]] 15:16, 22 August 2014 (UTC)</div>
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https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Atomicmetagross&diff=2163214
User talk:Atomicmetagross
2014-08-18T20:08:53Z
<p>Poppy Appletree: /* Pokémon Link: Battle!/Pokémon Battle Trozei! */ new section</p>
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== [[Pokémon Battle Trozei!|Pokémon Link: Battle!/Pokémon Battle Trozei!]] ==<br />
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Hey there, were you still interested in updating pages to include data for this game? --[[User:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] [[User talk:Poppy Appletree|:3]] 20:08, 18 August 2014 (UTC)</div>
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https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Pok%C3%A9mon_Battle_Trozei&diff=2163205
Talk:Pokémon Battle Trozei
2014-08-18T20:07:57Z
<p>Poppy Appletree: /* Missing Pieces */</p>
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<div>== Missing Pieces ==<br />
There is no side game data for this game in any Pokémon's page. There also needs to be pages for each of the zones, but I can't add pages yet, and there are a lot of Pokémon who need the addition, so can I have help? Thanks in advance. [[User:Atomicmetagross|Atomicmetagross]] ([[User talk:Atomicmetagross|talk]]) 22:12, 3 June 2014 (UTC)<br />
: Hey there, I'm just about done with this game, and I wouldn't mind helping. Is there a template in place to add the information in? --[[User:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] [[User talk:Poppy Appletree|:3]] 20:07, 18 August 2014 (UTC)</div>
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