https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/api.php?action=feedcontributions&user=Phoenixon&feedformat=atomBulbapedia - User contributions [en]2024-03-28T09:25:03ZUser contributionsMediaWiki 1.39.6https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:No_Eggs_Discovered_(Egg_Group)&diff=2107212Talk:No Eggs Discovered (Egg Group)2014-04-19T15:30:39Z<p>Phoenixon: /* X and Y, 3 Full IVs */</p>
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<div>First of all, something I never knew: [taken from the page 'egg group'] "Another oddity is that, despite being in the No eggs group, Nidorina and Nidoqueen are able to breed with Ditto." Shouldn't that be mentioned on this page, perhaps in the trivia? [or do I have a wooden eye and just don't see it... yikes!] Another thing: should Nidorina and Nidoqueen be added to the 'gender unknown' group, since Ditto is the only one they are capable of breeding with, like the other 'gender unknown' Pokémon? Naturally there'd be a conflict of 'but you do know their gender?' but is it any more logical than 'they cannot lay eggs but they can'... Sometimes I think Nintendo just forgot Nidorina and Nidoqueen and then didn't want to fix it because that would have been admitting to a mistake. [[User:Sipulichu|Sipulichu]] 17:19, 29 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:It's mentioned in the trivia and the description. And no, they're staying here. They were listed here with Stadium 2, which is why the Gender unknown "egg group" even exists in the first place: Stadium 2 marked it as such, despite it not really even being programmed in, just a bunch of genderless Pokémon that could bang a Ditto. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 18:25, 29 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
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==Where did the name come from?==<br />
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If I recall correctly, Pokémon stadium called this egg group the "No Eggs" group. Since when are you calling it the "undiscovered" group? 8:53 November 26 2011 (ET)<br />
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== Are there cheaters among us? ==<br />
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Where the hell did you get the amount of steps for baby or legendary Pokemon? I mean, this information is simply useless for players who don´t want to cheat (not that I am one ;). But another question is: What about Pokemon like Reshiram? It needs 30855 steps to hatch, but in B/W there is no step counter. WHO would sit down and count every f*cking step until it hatches?<br />
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-Kyurem will eat you ^^)-[[User:Shadow Kyurem|Shadow Kyurem]] 13:02, 29 March 2012 (UTC)<br />
:I guess that the step amounts can be found from the coding just like base stats and catch rates.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#AB0909">電</font><font color="#063A73">禅</font>]]<small>[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#fff" face="Tahoma"><span style="text-shadow:#000 0.2em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Den Zen</span></font>]]</small>''' 13:13, 29 March 2012 (UTC)<br />
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== Keldeo's second form. ==<br />
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Keldeo has two forms but unlike the other legendary pokemon it only lists one of them. [[User:Grassman|Grassman]] ([[User talk:Grassman|talk]]) 13:26, 12 August 2012 (UTC)<br />
:I don't know why forms are even included in this table. Forms have nothing to do with breeding and it's a waste of space to include them, much less for legendary Pokémon who can't even breed at all. --<font face="Segoe UI"><span style="text-shadow:grey 0.1em 0.1em 0.1em">[[User:IWannaBeTheVeryBest|<font color="red">IWanna</font>]]BeThe[[User talk:IWannaBeTheVeryBest|<font color="white">VeryBest</font>]]</span></font> 03:54, 12 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Fairies ==<br />
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Don't forget to add Fairy type for old Pokémon since it's Generation VI. [[User:Cinday123|Cinday123]] ([[User talk:Cinday123|talk]]) 07:29, 10 November 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== X and Y, 3 Full IVs ==<br />
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The article says "In Generation VI, all Pokémon in this group are guaranteed to have a perfect 31 in at least three of their individual values '''when caught in the wild.''' " <br />
However, on the Individual Value page, it says "If '''obtained in Generation VI''', Pokémon in the Undiscovered (Egg Group) are now guaranteed to have values of 31 in at least three of their stats." This implies that the baby offspring of a Pokemon after being bred will ''also'' have 3 perfect IVs. However, the first sentence only says if it is obtained in the wild. <br />
Can someone confirm if a baby Pokemon from breeding will also have 3 perfect IVs? --[[User:Phoenixon|Phoenixon]] ([[User talk:Phoenixon|talk]]) 15:30, 19 April 2014 (UTC)</div>Phoenixonhttps://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:No_Eggs_Discovered_(Egg_Group)&diff=2107211Talk:No Eggs Discovered (Egg Group)2014-04-19T15:30:29Z<p>Phoenixon: /* X and Y, 3 Full IVs */ new section</p>
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<div>First of all, something I never knew: [taken from the page 'egg group'] "Another oddity is that, despite being in the No eggs group, Nidorina and Nidoqueen are able to breed with Ditto." Shouldn't that be mentioned on this page, perhaps in the trivia? [or do I have a wooden eye and just don't see it... yikes!] Another thing: should Nidorina and Nidoqueen be added to the 'gender unknown' group, since Ditto is the only one they are capable of breeding with, like the other 'gender unknown' Pokémon? Naturally there'd be a conflict of 'but you do know their gender?' but is it any more logical than 'they cannot lay eggs but they can'... Sometimes I think Nintendo just forgot Nidorina and Nidoqueen and then didn't want to fix it because that would have been admitting to a mistake. [[User:Sipulichu|Sipulichu]] 17:19, 29 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:It's mentioned in the trivia and the description. And no, they're staying here. They were listed here with Stadium 2, which is why the Gender unknown "egg group" even exists in the first place: Stadium 2 marked it as such, despite it not really even being programmed in, just a bunch of genderless Pokémon that could bang a Ditto. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 18:25, 29 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
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==Where did the name come from?==<br />
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If I recall correctly, Pokémon stadium called this egg group the "No Eggs" group. Since when are you calling it the "undiscovered" group? 8:53 November 26 2011 (ET)<br />
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== Are there cheaters among us? ==<br />
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Where the hell did you get the amount of steps for baby or legendary Pokemon? I mean, this information is simply useless for players who don´t want to cheat (not that I am one ;). But another question is: What about Pokemon like Reshiram? It needs 30855 steps to hatch, but in B/W there is no step counter. WHO would sit down and count every f*cking step until it hatches?<br />
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-Kyurem will eat you ^^)-[[User:Shadow Kyurem|Shadow Kyurem]] 13:02, 29 March 2012 (UTC)<br />
:I guess that the step amounts can be found from the coding just like base stats and catch rates.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#AB0909">電</font><font color="#063A73">禅</font>]]<small>[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#fff" face="Tahoma"><span style="text-shadow:#000 0.2em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Den Zen</span></font>]]</small>''' 13:13, 29 March 2012 (UTC)<br />
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== Keldeo's second form. ==<br />
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Keldeo has two forms but unlike the other legendary pokemon it only lists one of them. [[User:Grassman|Grassman]] ([[User talk:Grassman|talk]]) 13:26, 12 August 2012 (UTC)<br />
:I don't know why forms are even included in this table. Forms have nothing to do with breeding and it's a waste of space to include them, much less for legendary Pokémon who can't even breed at all. --<font face="Segoe UI"><span style="text-shadow:grey 0.1em 0.1em 0.1em">[[User:IWannaBeTheVeryBest|<font color="red">IWanna</font>]]BeThe[[User talk:IWannaBeTheVeryBest|<font color="white">VeryBest</font>]]</span></font> 03:54, 12 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Fairies ==<br />
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Don't forget to add Fairy type for old Pokémon since it's Generation VI. [[User:Cinday123|Cinday123]] ([[User talk:Cinday123|talk]]) 07:29, 10 November 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== X and Y, 3 Full IVs ==<br />
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The article says "In Generation VI, all Pokémon in this group are guaranteed to have a perfect 31 in at least three of their individual values '''when caught in the wild.''' " <br />
However, on the Individual Value page, it says "If '''obtained in Generation VI''', Pokémon in the Undiscovered (Egg Group) are now guaranteed to have values of 31 in at least three of their stats." This implies that the baby offspring of a Pokemon after being bred will ''also'' have 3 perfect IVs. However, the first sentence only says if it is obtained in the wild. <br />
Can someone confirm if a baby Pokemon from breeding will also have 3 perfect IVs?</div>Phoenixonhttps://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Core_series&diff=2105703Talk:Core series2014-04-16T14:55:55Z<p>Phoenixon: /* "South Korean" games */ new section</p>
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==Routes==<br />
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I'm not so sure that a Gen V game ''has'' to start its Route numbering system from 301 just because Hoenn and Sinnoh use a similar method. A Gen V or so game could actually link two previously known regions. There are still Routes 47-100 and Routes 135-200 still unaccounted for. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|<font color="midnightblue" face="comic sans ms">'''$aturn'''</font>]][[User:SaturnYoshi|<font color="green" face="comic sans ms">'''¥oshi'''</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:SaturnYoshi|<font color="maroon">THE VOICES</font>]]</sup> 15:19, 11 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
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:Indeed. Not only is there no precedent or fundamental reason to believe it will be the case, the contrary is more likely to occur. Hoenn and Sinnoh are based on Kyushu and Hokkaido, respectively, which are the only islands in Japan - other than Honshu - arguably big enough to be adapted as regions. By this I am suggesting that Generation V is more likely to revisit Honshu, of which there are plenty of as-yet unexplored territories. If that were to happen, the numbering system would no doubt pick up from Route 47, regardless of whether Kanto or Johto were included in the game.<br />
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:Some might also argue that Shikoku, which is another Japanese island, is not too small to serve as the basis of a new region. Supposing that they had a point, the numbering system would still be likely to pick up either from Route 47 or Route 135, due to Shikoku's proximity to both Honshu (in particular the area encompassed in Johto) and Kyushu.<br />
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:Those are really the only possibilities involving Japan, and the pattern does suggest that Generation V will be based there. It is important to remember that the transition to Hoenn and then to Sinnoh entailed exploring new territories far enough from previous regions. Now that both Hoenn and Sinnoh are familiar places, that can no longer be done within Japan. -[[User:Unown Lord|Unown Lord]] 13:01, 18 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
::I think it's more to discourage people from being "LOL JOTOE IZ IN RUBBY N SAFIRE" and "LOL HOEN IZ IN DAIMIND N PERL". Though I do agree, they could go and hit whatever's north of Kanto and Johto next time around... the problem would be whether or not to link back to those two or not to. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:08, 26 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
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:::They should just go ahead and create a 3-D console game like the Orre series and have all the known game regions present. At least the main series regions. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|<font color="midnightblue" face="comic sans ms">'''$aturn'''</font>]][[User:SaturnYoshi|<font color="green" face="comic sans ms">'''¥oshi'''</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:SaturnYoshi|<font color="maroon">THE VOICES</font>]]</sup> 19:19, 26 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
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==Pikachu==<br />
The article mentions Pikachu and Raichu being in Generation Five's regional dex, because it has been like that in all previous generations. What about the evolutionary lines of {{p|Geodude}}, {{p|Abra}}, {{p|Zubat}} (minus {{p|Crobat}}), {{p|Machop}}, {{p|Psyduck}}, and {{p|Goldeen}}? They've all been present in every game, so why not mention them too? --[[User:Goukazaru|Nostalgia]] 17:55, 4 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
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:I think only Pikachu is mentioned because it's the "mascot" of the series. It has more of a probability of being in the next game. Then again, {{p|Magikarp}} and {{p|Tentacool}} are also mentioned... ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|<font color="midnightblue" face="comic sans ms">'''$aturn'''</font>]][[User:SaturnYoshi|<font color="green" face="comic sans ms">'''¥oshi'''</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:SaturnYoshi|<font color="maroon">THE VOICES</font>]]</sup> 18:20, 4 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
::If the next Generation of Pokémon games didn't have the Pikachu family in them I don't think anyone would buy them!<small>- ''unsigned comment from [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] ([[User talk:Taromon777|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Taromon777|contribs]]){{ #if: | &#32;{{{2}}} |}}''</small><br />
:::of course they would buy them. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Nos hablamos?]] 18:29, 7 January 2009 (UTC)<br />
::::This is funny because now Pikachu isn't in the [[Udex]] and Black and White was the top selling game when it came out in Japan. So, does anyone know that ended up working? Doesn't the old Pokémon start appearing in the grass after you get the National Dex. (How is that even possible?) --[[User:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma;background:black"><font color="red">'''Land'''</font>]][[User talk:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma;background:black"><small><font color="yellow">'''fish7'''</font></small></span></span>]]''' 21:32, 1 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Eeveelutions? ==<br />
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Is it possible that 2 new eeveelutions will be introduced when you consider Gen II and IV both introduced 2 new eeveelutions each (Espeon & Umbreon and Leafeon and Glaceon)?[[User:BlueGasMask|BlueGasMask]] 01:25, 3 October 2008 (UTC)<br />
:what about Gen III? none. so, no. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">MAG</span>]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|<span style="color:#696969;">NE</span>]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">DETH</span>]]''' 01:27, 3 October 2008 (UTC)<br />
::If we see new ones in Gen V, I'd bet on a couple more in Gen VI, but until we have a pattern we ought not. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:31, 3 October 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::If the Eeveelutions "pattern" continued in Gen V, then we would either see no new Eeveelutions (Gen II added 2, Gen III added none, Gen IV added 2) or only a Dragon-type Eeveelution (as all of Eevee's current evolved forms are types that were considered "Special" prior to Gen IV; technically, however, this would break the pattern, as only 1 new "Special"-type would be introduced, rather than the usual 2). Hopefully they will begin to create Eeveelutions based off of the types that were previously "Physical"; I'd really like to see a Steel, Fighting, or Ghost-type Eeveelution (Bug...not so much). [[User:Diachronos|Diachronos]] 16:01, 8 October 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::If they do invent new Eeveelutions I dread to think how unimaginative their names will be! There will probably be a Dragon-type one called Drageon or something. <small>- ''unsigned comment from [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] ([[User talk:Taromon777|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Taromon777|contribs]]){{ #if: | &#32;{{{2}}} |}}''</small><br />
:::::How about Dracoleon? Draco IS greek for Dragon. -[[User:The REAL Dialga|The REAL Dialga]] 15:23, 30 May 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Quality of this article ==<br />
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Isn't good. It isn't up to any standard of quality. It reads more like an editorial or some other kind of opinion piece than an encyclopedic one. Given that, what can we do to fix it? I think we can only really say that nothing has been announced, yet. -- '''[[User:evkl|<span style="color:#000099">evkl</span>]]''' <sub>[[User_talk:evkl|<span style="color:#006699">(need to talk?)</span>]]</sub> 05:55, 7 January 2009 (UTC)<br />
: Stale Comment reply!: Right now, all it is is a list of things we know will happen or we think will happen. We might add a couple of pictures, but I can see how it would be hard to incorporate them. But with the latest news, it looks like we're not seeing Gen V games until mid-late 2010 in Japan, and early-mid 2011 everywhere else. However, by August of this year, we'll most likely have at least the {{p|Munchlax}} of Gen V and we can pretty much copy this article over to a rough Gen V page. [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 17:12, 14 February 2009 (UTC)<br />
::This article is basically a list of patterns through the game series and that's all it ever can be. As I said below, actual Gen V information would go on the Gen V pages. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>|[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]|</sup> 19:32, 17 July 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Magnemite ==<br />
If Magnemite's included, why not Rhyhorn?--[[User:Goukazaru|Gou]] 17:26, 4 May 2009 (UTC)<br />
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==About Arceus==<br />
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"The legendary pokemon are more powerful in new generations. With Arceus as the god Pokemon of the universe, it would be hard to make a stronger one."<br />
I HATE this argument. Just because it is credited with creating everything does NOT make it omnipotent, or unsurpassable in any other way. Technically, it's only been known to do one thing, and that's creating other pokemon (Dialga, Palkia, Giratina, Uxie, Mesprit, and Azelf) which in turn did all the work of creating the universe. And it's arguable that legendary pokemon are mor powerful in each generation (until Arceus, I don't think even the base stats of them were ever improved upon much-- are Groudon and Kyogre that much more powerful than Ho-oh and Lugia?). I'd say their powers and range of influence are just made "cooler", and I doubt Game Freak would be at a loss for that-- Many other fundamental aspects of the universe still have no legendary pokemon to call their own, like life and death. I'm not saying that this argument should be deleted from this page; after all, this is about the fandom, and many fans have the opinion "ARceuS Is gOD!!!1! ZOmG GameFreaKs caNT FoLlow Taht up!!!1!!!!!111!"<br />
I just think it should be rephrased, maybe as "Some people argue that because Arceus created the Pokemon world, Gamefreak would have difficulty making a more awesome pokemon next generation in order to maintain interest in the franchise." Something like that. Any thoughts? --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 23:15, 3 October 2009 (UTC)<br />
:I agree, who said, in the current generation, there has to be stronger pokémon then the last.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|<span style="color:#7F7E83">Midnight</span>]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|<span style="color:#191970">''Blue''</span>]]''' 23:22, 3 October 2009 (UTC)<br />
::The whole article is fanspeculation. It is a valid argument, and I've rephrased the whole entire section to make it somewhat more encyclopedic. &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 07:19, 4 October 2009 (UTC)<br />
:::Wow, that's much better. Even I couldn't have phrased it that well! Thanks! --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 19:13, 4 October 2009 (UTC)<br />
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I dont think that arceus is directly referred to as a god but his ability to create the three dietic dragons and the three lake gaurdians make his ability '''DIVINE'''(like all other legendaries), so there's no point of dubbing him as a god. And that would be offensive to religions, so nintendo would've thought of that point before approving of arceus'release to the fourth generation.--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 18:28, 4 October 2009 (UTC)<br />
:It is not stated as such any more. &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 19:28, 4 October 2009 (UTC)<br />
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::I believe somewhere in Gen IV they mention people worshipping Dialga, Palkia, and Arceus as gods. It might be Cynthia's grannie I'm thinking of, but she says that Dialga and Palkia were "revered as dieties" or something like that. '''[[Team Rocket|<small><span style="color: #550000;">R.A.</span></small>]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Hunter</font></small>]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Blade</font></small>]]''' 23:17, 5 October 2009 (UTC)<br />
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that is exactly what i'm saying, 'revered as dieties' but not actual gods, but actually the sinnoh myth is based on shinto which might possibly have been confusing for the pokémon community.--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 17:14, 6 October 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:But diety refers to gods, or somthing/someone on the level of a god. If you can find a meaning that's different, then please do. '''[[Team Rocket|<small><span style="color: #550000;">R.A.</span></small>]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Hunter</font></small>]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Blade</font></small>]]''' 13:08, 7 October 2009 (UTC)<br />
::I'm no longer arguing that it isn't a "god" (as the word itself is quite vague. All I was saying is that the assumption that Game Freak won't be able to come up with something more powerful, as well as the assumption that they have to with each new generation, are both misconceptions. And again, as this is about the fandom's opinion, and many are of the belief that Nintendo has to do both of these things to make a new generation (and that they couldn't if they wanted to), I think the amended wording suits it fine. {{unsigned|AndyPKMN}}<br />
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I suggest rearranging the page into several sections or put into a table--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 13:12, 8 October 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== um..... ==<br />
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there could be a future Generation starting off at Route 49 getting rid of that LONG gap between [[Route 48]] and [[Route 101]]--[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] 17:51, 18 October 2009 (UTC)<br />
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if the gap between routes complete a full number sequence, that means that between johto and hoenn there are most probably two generations, between hoenn and sinnoh there are about four generations, of course if I take this ''if each region has about 27 playable routes'', of course its an assumption but good point to be mentioned if the numbering counts. yet there's the problem of the pokémon world's route numbering system which could exist as some kind of government policy, if it exists.--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 13:43, 19 October 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:Not to mention that, if a new generation's [[country]] includes a route number starting right after the last route number of another country, that would heavily imply that said other country is accessible in the game. For example, if [[Generation V]]'s country were to begin at Route 49, that would imply that at least [[Johto]] is accessible in the main games of that generation. [[Hoenn]] began at 101, [[Sinnoh]] began at 201, and the [[Sevii Islands]] did not number their routes, all to avoid these implications.<br />
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:(For the record, yes, there is a precedent for [[Route 47]] going west from {{ci|Cianwood}} when [[Route 46]] is on the eastern side of the country. The precedent is [[Kanto]]'s [[Route 24]], north of {{ci|Cerulean}} while [[Route 23]] is on the west side of the country.) {{unsigned|Shiningpikablu252}}<br />
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:um... what's a precedent?--[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] 02:14, 20 October 2009 (UTC)<br />
::and I still say that they can fix that long @$$ gap between Johto and Hoenn's region number's without making Johto accessible. The excuse? A land Bridge between Johto and Hypothetical Generation V region that vanished over time.--[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] 02:29, 20 October 2009 (UTC)<br />
There could also be no more Pokémon games. The moral of the story is we base our information on the trends of recent games, not what a handful of fans think is possible. Because anything's possible. Even an elephant bird (ten points for getting the reference). &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 02:47, 20 October 2009 (UTC)<br />
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true. But there are some people (like me) that are insane about Pokémon. If the series is stopped we will band togéther to attack nintendo. There's still SO much Nintendo can put into Pokémon. And besides it makes them money. I don't think they'll end it yet.--[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] 02:49, 20 October 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Rewrite ==<br />
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I largely agree with trom's reasoning that we needed to rewrite this page, but am concerned that we are losing a lot of information by doing this transition so suddenly. I certainly feel that any of the "evidence" sections, we retain on other pages, and that it's easy to find on those pages. As for the format, I'd advocate a few more bulleted lists, as I think it is easier to pick out on the page than a whole load of prose to wade through. I know you had good intentions though trom :) [[User:Kidburla|Kidburla]] 19:54, 14 December 2009 (UTC)<br />
:If you feel I removed anything of importance, then feel free to put it back in. I did think that some items listed were overtrivialised, so I took them out. As for the format, the sections with paragraphs is generally preferred for overall article quality. Thanks for your feedback. &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 11:09, 15 December 2009 (UTC)<br />
::Okay so I agree that most articles should have sections and paragraphs, but I contest that this is a "normal" article. It reads more like a list, which has been converted to a formatted article (which incidentally is basically what has happened). Perhaps instead, some of this content should be migrated to a "List of patterns common to all Pokémon games" and then merely referenced from this article? [[User:Kidburla|Kidburla]] 18:43, 15 December 2009 (UTC)<br />
:::This page was better before the rewrite. Put the evidence back in. [[User:Emyunoxious|Emyunoxious]] 01:38, 26 December 2009 (UTC)<br />
::::No, I disagree; it looks much cleaner and more professional now, while the old version was fairly jumbled. If you want to add old information, at least put it in a more organized manner than before. [[User:MagicBarrier|MagicBarrier]] 05:15, 6 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::::I think the article looks better without all the bullet points. It's a lot easier to read. [[User:Taromon777|<span style="color:turquoise; font-family:Arial Black">'''''Taromon'''''</span>]] 11:33, 30 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Redundant ==<br />
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Disclaimer: This article is purely fan speculation. There is NO evidence for or against it.<br />
Section:evidence for gen V.<br />
Section:evidence against gen V.<br />
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lol<br />
--[[User:Gen1king|<span style="color:gold">''GEN''</span>]]1[[User talk:Gen1king|<span style="color:gold">KING</span>]] 14:12, 31 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
:It said '''solid''' evidence. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 14:37, 31 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==Could be a new handheld==<br />
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I did not know where else to put this so... I was just reading NGamer(uk 46) and it has an artical on page 6 about what Nintendo president Satoru Iwata said in an interview with japanese newspaper Ashi Shimbun. They report that when asked about a future generation of handhelds he apparently said that that the new consol would have "highly detailed graphics, and it will be necessary to have a sensor with the ability to read the movements of people playing". With earlier reports of Nvidia working on a chipset for Nintendo, and Game Freak advertising a while back for a 3D artist (or something), I believe that the 5th gen of Pokémon is close and we may even see sneek previews of the next handheld by the end of the year, sounds to me as if they are working on it by now (could even be in testing as NGamer have a ''mock'' picture of what they believe is in the works). {{unsigned|011384mm}}<br />
:It's already announced. You might not know because it was revealed 1 or 2 days ago. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 16:01, 31 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== A Little Spelling Error ==<br />
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Since this page is protected, there's a really small spelling error. - "Just as Red and Blue were made in Generation III, and Gold and Sliver in Generation IV, it is most likely that Ruby and Sapphire will be remade in Generation V." It should be Silver not Sliver. [[User:Ugoz|Ugoz]] 22:53, 31 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Fixed, thanks for noticing. - [[User:Kogoro|<span style="color:#DA70D6;">'''<sc>Kogoro</sc>'''</span>]] '''|''' [[User talk:Kogoro|<span style="color:#FFB6C1;">'''<sc>Talk to me</sc>'''</span>]] - 23:02, 31 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
::Another minor error that was over looked in what Ugoz pointed out, made should be changed to remade.[[User:NnN Neo|NnN Neo]] 03:45, 2 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Add info about Gen V ==<br />
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Could someone delete the references of generation V. Or Atleast reword them. also, plz mention Gne. V in the begining paragraph. thankyou[[User:ShinyPikachu|<small>Shiny</small>]] [[User:ShinyPikachu|<span style="background:#FFFF00"><span style="color:#E57E4C;">'''Pika'''</span></span>]] 02:29, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Also, can add a link to Gen 5 at the bottom of the page.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|<span style="color:#003366">Midnight</span>]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|<span style="color:#8C92AC">''Blue''</span>]]''' 02:35, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::In progress. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#80964B">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#C4E673">chidna</span>]]''' 03:14, 7 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::Also a reminder: in "Speculation against future generations", if it even remains relevant in the short term at all, everything involving the unlikelihood of the fifth gen in particular (or unlikelihood that it will be on the DS) should be removed. --[[User:HeroicJay|HeroicJay]] 19:26, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::...Hello? The page still talks about the possibility of an already-confirmed fifth gen not happening, even saying no new Pokemon have been revealed. --[[User:HeroicJay|HeroicJay]] 02:54, 13 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Two Sets of Remakes in Generation V and Beyond? ==<br />
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I Think that if they ARE Going to remake Ruby and Sapphire in Gen. V, then they would have to do remakes of FR/LG, because FR/LG have the exact same quality as Ruby/Sapphire. And then, they would probably have to remake DP in Generation VI, if there ever will be a Generation VI.Should there be a Generation VI<br />
in 2013 or whenever (2013 is my best guess, or 2014), then there would have to be more remakes of HGSs.Then, in an seemingly unlikely Generation VII, would come reremakes of FRLG and RS, and then the first remakes of the Generation V Games.I See all these, except the First remakes of RS, unlikely.[[User:Brock*PWN*|Brock*PWN*]] 17:58, 16 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Remember, talk pages are meant for discussing the article itself, not the subject. To post all your theories and random questions about the content of the games, visit the forums.&mdash;[[User:Lord mada|Mada-sama]] <small>([[User talk:Lord mada|Talk to me!]])</small>&mdash; 18:17, 16 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
::Remake will only happen if the generation timeline is the same. I and III take place during the same time, II and IV also take place during the same time. Someone should mention it at the remake part about the "same timeline". -[[User:Pokeant|Pokeant]] 15:07, 26 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::Oh, please. Nowhere is it stated that Generation I and Generation III take place at the same time, nor is it stated anywhere that Generation II and Generation IV also take place at the same time. The only thing we know about any Pokémon game timelines is that Generation II (and its remakes) take place three years after Generation I (and its remakes), while XD: Gale of Darkness takes place five years after Colosseum. Who's to say Generation III isn't a prequel to Generation I, or Generation IV isn't a sequel to Generation II? Communication compatability means nothing--both Colosseum and XD: Gale of Darkness trades with Generation III handheld games without any problems despite the fact that the Gamecube titles have a distinct timeline difference. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 21:34, 26 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== [[Future generations of Pokémon#Speculation against future generations|Speculation against future generations]] ==<br />
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Despite the name of this section, it's actually arguing that there won't be a [[Generation V]]. An argument which I don't think anyone can logically support given that we know Gen V is coming. In particular it says, "no new Pokémon have been revealed" which is just completely wrong at this point. [[User:Drapion|Drapion]] 05:47, 26 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Generation V Hate ==<br />
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"While Generation V is known to be on its way, several vocal fans believe it will be inferior to Generation IV, which has, as of the present, lasted nearly as long as Generation III did." <br />
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So, how does this fit in with the rest of the section? The rest of the section just says there won't be future generations. [[User:MagicBarrier|MagicBarrier]] 18:32, 28 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Okay, it's been changed. I know people will always have generations that they hate, but I was saying it didn't fit in with the rest of the section. [[User:MagicBarrier|MagicBarrier]] 23:31, 28 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== No Old Pokemon In Generation 5!?!? ==<br />
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Than that means a lot of this HAS to be wrong.. if there won't be any old pokemon, than that means Pikachu won't appear and.... ... ... ... ... OMG NO MORE GEODUDE!!! WOOT!!!! Anyway point is this needs to be pointed out in the article eventually!! Also, a question, has it been comfirmed that there won't be badges in the new generation? Or is this still a rumor? Anyway, I'd just like to point out that IF what Masuda said is TRUE than that means some of the "Fan Speculation" will NOT happen!! --[[User:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Broadway;background:black"><font color="red">Land</font>]][[User talk:Landfish7|<span style="font-family;"><small><font color="yellow">fish</font></small></span></span>]]'''<font color="blue"><sup>7</sup></font> 13:57, 4 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
:I thought it was just no old Pokémon until ''after'' acquiring the Nat'l Dex. Calm down, you'll be able to get Pikachu. <span style="border: 1px dotted #D04634;">[[User:Jazzmoth|<span style="color:#0F5437">ʝɑzz</span><span style="color:#3E0F54">motɦ</span>]] [[User talk:Jazzmoth|<span style="color:#004AC8;"><sub>❝❞</sub>]][[Special:Contributions/Jazzmoth|✎</span>]]</span> 16:16, 4 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
::I guess we will have to wait until the game is released to figure out exactly how they are going to do this.. something makes me doubt that they will all of a sudden have past Pokemon in the wild after you recieve the national dex.. I thought it would be more like Generations 1 through 4 Pokemon couldn't be traded into the game until the National Pokedex was unlocked and you can only find Generation 5 Pokemon in the wild NO MATTER WHAT!! BTW, I don't care if Pikachu ends up in the game or not.. it's a useless electric rodent.. so.. should we at least point this fact out on the Black and White page? --[[User:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Broadway;background:black"><font color="red">Land</font>]][[User talk:Landfish7|<span style="font-family;"><small><font color="yellow">fish</font></small></span></span>]]'''<font color="blue"><sup>7</sup></font> 20:07, 4 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::Well, until we find out for sure either way, it's speculation. Let's not add it until it's confirmed exactly how this will work. <span style="border: 1px dotted #D04634;">[[User:Jazzmoth|<span style="color:#0F5437">ʝɑzz</span><span style="color:#3E0F54">motɦ</span>]] [[User talk:Jazzmoth|<span style="color:#004AC8;"><sub>❝❞</sub>]][[Special:Contributions/Jazzmoth|✎</span>]]</span> 23:03, 4 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Pokémon debuting before their Generation ==<br />
Zoroark debuted before Gen V in the Anime, if the movies count.. Which is likely as Manaphy and Lucario are mentioned. --[[User:JasonTongRulz|♪ Jason Tong ♪]] 08:40, 2 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Japan? ==<br />
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It states that all regions have been based on places in Japan.. but Isshu is based off of New York. --[[User:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma;background:black"><font color="red">'''Land'''</font>]][[User talk:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma;background:black"><small><font color="yellow">'''fish7'''</font></small></span></span>]]''' 01:21, 12 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Myth busted ==<br />
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Since NOBODY went above a base stat total of 680 in the 5th Gen, and since Arceus is still the only one to go higher than that, using Arceus as evidence against future generations is now false. If Arceus were still credible evidence to use Reshiram, Zekrom, Kyurem, AND Genesect would have a base stat total of 720 or higher, so that disproves the superseding part of each generation. Even in terms of backstory they did absolutely nothing to Arceus's title, as they technically didn't create [i]anything[/i]. Reshiram and Zekrom simply have either Good or Evil personalities respectively that got into arguements with eachother to repeat Groudon and Kyogre except nothing real "special", Kyurem is a derp until we get the potential Gray version and find out what it really is, and Genesect is simply another Mewtwo. Due to this, a 6th Generation is highly possible still, as nobody superseded the 4th Gen in terms of backstories. [[User:Shiramu Kuromu|Shiramu Kuromu]] 17:06, 30 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== ..... ==<br />
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WHY whould ANYONE think they'll remake FR?LG?!?! That'll be so much of a waste of resources since they already remade Kanto once and they don't need SEVEN games for that, as they can simply put all the Kanto and Johto legendaries in Hoenn like they did with most of the Legendaries in HG/SS. Game Freak seems to be wanting a full reboot here, something that will NOT be accomplished with FR/LG remakes. You'd get a better result with Hoenn remakes than that for goodness sakes, since the FR/LG remakes are TOTAL speculation unlike the Hoenn remakes, which actually have more wait to them (For instance, Dive is an HM again). [[User:Shiramu Kuromu|Shiramu Kuromu]] 17:35, 14 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
::Heck that entire section in the article is total speculation to begin with. Who put that there anyways??? [[User:Shiramu Kuromu|Shiramu Kuromu]] 17:37, 14 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Outdated and Actively Incorrect Content ==<br />
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While this page *was* accurate, the section on the new generations coming out with a new system (paraphrasing heavily) is, obviously, conclusively false at this point. Id like to either remove the statement, or amend it, but considering how much controversy this sort of page has the potential to cause, I don't want to do so without greater input. [[User:PowerPlantRaichu|PowerPlantRaichu]] 01:05, 17 January 2012 (UTC)<br />
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Didn't the 3DS come out with Gen V? I'm new, but there's so much here I can't find any mainspace to edit!{{unsigned|Cela08}}<br />
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== Deletion discussion ==<br />
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(Thanks for slapping on the template without starting the discussion yourself. Nice and polite.) I disagree with Spyspotter's request to delete this page. While it is quite speculative, the fact is that there are patterns and it's nice to have a page that goes over them. What this page needs is ''not'' to be deleted, but to have the speculation edited out so it's an observation of the patterns themselves rather than speculation about whether those patterns will continue. If this is done (and I intend to do it if people agree with me), it should probably be either moved to an entirely new title or merged into the "Version" article (which, as a side note, should really be titled "Main series" for consistency with our other pages). [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 03:29, 9 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
:I disagree with the deletion notice. <nowiki><!--and can I be deleted I need a fresh start--></nowiki>--[[User:Relicant|<span style="color:#785C3E;">'''Reli'''</span><span style="color:#FF3300;">★</span><span style="color:#C2A385;">'''ジーランス'''</span>]]'''?''' 17:24, 9 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
::I'm alright with the patterns in the version article, but the rest of it needs to go. Having speculation is one thing, but having an entire article consisting of it is another. Also, I don't always start deletion discussions, if I didn't, then the edit summary and the template state my argument. I think it's a waste of time retyping all that stuff out. The above [[User_talk:Spyspotter|comment]] is [[Special:Contributions/Spyspotter|supported]] by [[User:Spyspotter|Spyspotter]]. 19:10, 9 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::I think there are better places for this page's content. What it currently seems to be is a list of generalities about Pokémon games that would probably be more suited for [[Version]] or whatever it becomes. --[[User:FSX|FSX]] ([[User talk:FSX|talk]]) 16:21, 10 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::I think there is a simple solution to this: move it to the appendix. What do you guys think? --[[User:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma;background:black"><font color="red">'''Land'''</font>]][[User talk:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma;background:black"><small><font color="yellow">'''fish7'''</font></small></span></span>]]''' 15:25, 12 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::::I don't think so. The appendix namespace a) never gets noticed and b) Is for ''fact only''. The only namespace for speculation is the shipping namespace, and (for obvious reasons) it can not be moved there. The above [[User_talk:Spyspotter|comment]] is [[Special:Contributions/Spyspotter|supported]] by [[User:Spyspotter|Spyspotter]]. 18:19, 13 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::::I don't think this belongs in the appendix. I do personally think a merge with [[Version]] would be a fine idea. [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#006400">'''Zesty'''</span>]][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#3CB371">'''Cactus'''</span>]] 21:15, 3 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
Per discussion, I've merged all the content that seemed appropriate into the [[Version]] article. If I missed anything or anyone disagrees, please speak up; otherwise, my opinion is that this article is done and ready to be deleted. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 22:33, 3 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
: I disagree with the deletion of this page. I mean this not the first page to contain speculation (e.g. Shipping article. But they I guess from the prefix that they are not in the mainspace,are they? ). I don't know if this is wrong but I suggest that the article be renamed to something like, IMHO, Trends set by Pokemon games or sth like that and if possible, moved somewhere this so-called speculation is allowed.[[User:Auraguardian197|<span style="color:green">'''Auraguardian'''</span>]][[User talk:Auraguardian197|<span style="color:red">'''197'''</span>]] 07:20, 22 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Everything currently in the article worth keeping, as I've already noted, has been moved to the [[Version]] article. Shipping is the only namespace that allows any speculation whatsoever, and this obviously doesn't belong there, so we cannot keep it in a place where "speculation is allowed", because none suitable exists. I don't understand why anyone still wants to keep this page, since ''all of the information is already in the Version article'' (or would be deleted for non-notability even if we kept this page). [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 17:57, 22 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::I was just voicing my opinion,that's all. Sorry if I sounded rude or anythng.[[User:Auraguardian197|<span style="color:green">'''Auraguardian'''</span>]][[User talk:Auraguardian197|<span style="color:red">'''197'''</span>]] 20:15, 23 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
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=Version premerge discussion=<br />
== Just wondering? ==<br />
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In the Japanese version's of any main series game, does the word "version" exist or is that just international usage. Because on the box arts it just say for example Pearl or Ruby.--[[User:Pokéboy93|Pokéboy93]] 02:42, 24 July 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Trivia ==<br />
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* Each generation's third version does not use its mascots official Ken Sugimori artwork. Blastoise (Japanese), Pikachu (Japanese and English), Suicune, Rayquaza, and Giratina use specially made artwork.<br />
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The original Red, Green, and Blue, and the English Gold and Silver don't seem to use the official artwork either. Am I wrong? Or did he publish more than one official work of these back then? - [[User:DanPMK|MK]] (<sup>[[User Talk:DanPMK|t]]</sup>/<sub>[[Special:contributions/DanPMK|c]]</sub>) 07:51, 13 August 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Colors ==<br />
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I don't know where else to put this, so since I noticed it here first, I'll put it here. I'm not very familiar with the way wikis work, but I've noticed in the source that each Version has its own "color". I'm not talking about the name of the game, I'm talking about the HTML color that it's assigned in the wiki. For example, Red Version's "color" ("red color") is #FF1111, and FireRed's "color" ("firered color") is #FFAAAA. Anyway, what I'd like to know is...where did those specific colors come from? How were those specific colors chosen? And why aren't White and Black Version's "colors" #000000 and #FFFFFF, respectively, instead of what they are currently (#444444 and #C3C3C3, respectively)? I can understand that lighter/darker colors were chosen for visibility purposes, but as the colors are right now, SoulSilver's color (#E1E1E1) is whiter than White's own color! It just doesn't look right, having ''White'' Versions be less white than SoulSilver Version... —[[User:Tyeforce|Tyeforce]] 22:36, 10 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Well... we also have "Black color dark/light" and "White color dark/light". You can't make white lighter, and you can't make black darker. Sooo. Also it's a really bad idea to have pure white text... when the default background is white. Another thing is, as you pointed out, Red isn't pure #ff0000. So why should BW be their 'pure' color? D:<br />
:... oh yeah and #000 is kinda the default text color, too... >_> ▫▪''[[User:Tina|<span style="color:#d93f91;">Ťïňắ</span>]]'' <sup>[[User talk:Tina|<span style="color:#ae41d9;">♫</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|<span style="color:#d941cf;">♥</span>]]</sup> 22:41, 10 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
::Yeah, I understand that. But shouldn't we change either SoulSilver's color or White's color, because it doesn't look right with SoulSilver's color being whiter than White's... Also, is there a page that lists all the colors, along with their light and dark versions? I'd like to make a list of them all, but digging through the source code isn't exactly the most convenient method, lol. (I'm using the colors for something I'm doing.) —[[User:Tyeforce|Tyeforce]] 23:18, 10 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::I apologise for the format; I took these out of an Excel file I have. Some of the light colors are now outdated (as in, we changed them on the pedia and I didn't change them on my sheet) and I only have up until Platinum.<br />
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| <ab>'''Regular'''<br />
Bug A8B820<br />
Dark 705848<br />
Dragon 7038F8<br />
Electric F8D030<br />
Fighting C03028<br />
Fire F08030<br />
Flying A890F0<br />
Ghost 705898<br />
Grass 78C850<br />
Ground E0C068<br />
Ice 98D8D8<br />
Normal A8A878<br />
Poison A040A0<br />
Psychic F85888<br />
Rock B8A038<br />
Steel B8B8D0<br />
Water 6890F0<br />
??? 68A090<br />
Blue 1111FF<br />
Colo B6CAE4<br />
Crystal 4FD9FF<br />
Diamond AAAAFF<br />
Emerald 00A000<br />
FireRed FF7327<br />
Gold DAA520<br />
Green 11BB11<br />
L.Green 00DD00<br />
Pearl FFAAAA<br />
Platinum 999999<br />
Red FF1111<br />
Ruby A00000<br />
Sapphire 0000A0<br />
Silver C0C0C0<br />
XD 604E82<br />
Yellow FFD733<br />
Beauty 6890F0<br />
Cute F85888<br />
Cool F08030<br />
Smart 78C850<br />
Tough F8D030<br />
'''Light''' <br />
Bug CEDE48<br />
Dark A2958D<br />
Dragon 9F77FF<br />
Electric FCEEB6<br />
Fighting E5524A<br />
Fire F9D2B6<br />
Flying CEBFFB<br />
Ghost A18DC4<br />
Grass ACEA8C<br />
Ground F8DD92<br />
Ice BDF3F3<br />
Normal E0E0CF<br />
Poison D878D8<br />
Psychic F99CB8<br />
Rock E6DDB9<br />
Steel E6E6EE<br />
Water 9BB8FE<br />
??? CADDD8<br />
Blue 7777FF<br />
Colo DDE6F1<br />
Crystal B2EEFF<br />
Diamond CCCCFF<br />
Emerald 2ED42E<br />
FireRed FF9359<br />
Gold FFCB49<br />
Green 28E228<br />
L.Green 32FA32<br />
Pearl FFCCCC<br />
Platinum BBBBBB<br />
Red FF7777<br />
Ruby D42E2E<br />
Sapphire 2E2ED4<br />
Silver E3E3E3<br />
XD 8674A8<br />
Yellow FEEF46<br />
Beauty 9DB7F5<br />
Cute FA92B2<br />
Cool F5AC78<br />
Smart A7DB8D<br />
Tough FAE078<br />
</ab><br />
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:::Hope that helps. &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 23:27, 10 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::Thanks for that. I'm just curious... How were the colors for Colosseum and XD chosen? Also, what's the verdict on the SoulSilver/White color issue? —[[User:Tyeforce|Tyeforce]] 23:40, 10 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Generation V: Inverted Pairings ==<br />
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Generation V is the first time that the pairings between version color and version mascot are '''inverted'''. (I.E. Reshiram, the White Dragon, is the version mascot of Pokémon Black while Zekrom, the Black Dragon, is the version mascot of Pokémon White.) --[[User:Arima|Arima]] 03:01, 30 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Font Colors ==<br />
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I haven't figured out how to but can someone change the font color for Red, Blue, Ruby and Sapphire in the box? They are either incredibly hard to see or you can't see them at all. --[[User:HoennMaster|<font color="blue">Hoenn</font>]][[User talk:HoennMaster|<font color="green">Master</font>]] 19:36, 19 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==SoulSilver and White==<br />
It doesn't look like this was ever concluded, but I agree that having SoulSilver a lighter color than White is odd. [[User:Ikarishipper900|Ikarishipper900]] 15:07, 29 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
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==Version Concepts==<br />
This seems like as good a place as any to ask. Anyway, I was wondering if there's a spot on the Wiki that talks about the 'theme' of a generation. The Generation V page has a section on how Black and White is an exploration of polarity. Here's the relevant section from the March Nintendo Power: "We choose the titles to express the themes of each game. Like, diamonds are the hardest substance in the world, so that fit the theme of "ultimateness" in Pokemon Diamond and Pearl. This time we're pursuing a theme of "polarity," things that are defined by their opposition to each other. Take, for example, angles and demons, or light and shadow-if one didn't exist, the other would lose all meaning. "White" is a blank slate with potential to become anything, while "black" is complete and unchanging. So our intention actually wasn't to return to the basics, but to evoke that particular theme." What I'm wondering is, is there a place for this sort of thing on the main version pages. A line that says "Diamond and Pearl are named for being 'Ultimate', like how BW is named for 'Polarity'. Could this be included anywhere?--[[User:Purimpopoie|Purimpopoie]] 00:43, 4 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
:I think that kind of thing would go best in the "Discussion of Generation X" section of each generation page. However, the version naming origin should also be on the pages of the game versions themselves, maybe in the trivia sections of those pages. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 13:46, 4 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Move ==<br />
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Is the discussion to move this page still ongoing or is it no longer being considered? - [[User:Poikins|<span style="color:#fc880d">'''poi'''</span>]][[User talk:Poikins|<span style="color:#ff3333">'''kins'''</span>]] 07:45, 17 April 2012 (UTC)<br />
:I dont think it ever got past suggestion. I'm all for it (since I was the one that suggested it). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 11:14, 25 April 2012 (UTC)<br />
::I think it should move as well. - [[User:Poikins|<span style="color:#fc880d">'''poi'''</span>]][[User talk:Poikins|<span style="color:#ff3333">'''kins'''</span>]] 23:17, 25 April 2012 (UTC)<br />
:::I also agree with the move. A proper disscussion should at least take place. [[User:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">--Pokemaster</span>]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">97</span>]] 23:27, 25 April 2012 (UTC)<br />
::::I also agree that the page should be moved. [[User:ZMT123|ZMT123]] 21:47, 26 April 2012 (UTC)<br />
:::::I also think it should be moved. Version sounds like it should be about the differences between versions or what a version is, but Main series fits this article much better.<span style="font-family:Georgia">--[[User:Darth Zekrom|<span style="color:#000000">'''Darth'''</span>]] [[User talk:Darth Zekrom|<span style="color:#00BFFF">'''Zekrom'''</span>]]</span> 22:07, 26 April 2012 (UTC)<br />
::::::So, are we moving this or what? [[User:ZMT123|ZMT123]] 04:55, 2 May 2012 (UTC)<br />
:::::::The move will take a bit of editing in the article for it to make sense as titled "Main series", so if no one else wants to, I can start working on it. - [[User:Poikins|<span style="color:#fc880d">'''poi'''</span>]][[User talk:Poikins|<span style="color:#ff3333">'''kins'''</span>]] 19:02, 2 May 2012 (UTC)<br />
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A "version" is a game. It is a singular game entity. The "main series" is the entire series of games that headlines a generation, as well as their complimenting same-generation additions (ie: remakes). This article seems to walk the line between the two, as if it has an identity crisis at times. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">MAG</span>]][[Special:Contributions/MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#696969;">NE</span>]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">DETH</span>]]''' 04:35, 3 May 2012 (UTC)<br />
:I agree, this article needs a rewrite. Something else I believe that should happen is the creation of a [[side series]] page, in line with the decision we made sometime last year IIRC, where side series is defined as Stadium, Colosseum, XD, Box, Ranch, and PBR, and is distinct from [[spin-off games]] as well as the main series. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 12:51, 3 May 2012 (UTC)<br />
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Abstain. If Colosseum and XD are considered "main series" (they do have full trading connectivity with RSE/FRLG, unlike side series games) then I agree that [[main series]] is a distinct concept from [[version]]. Even "version" itself has multiple meanings (e.g: FR/LG's v1.0 cart having a minor Pokedex bug), and that [[Pokemon X and Y]] are just "X" and "Y", not "X Version" and "Y Version". --''[[User:Stratelier|Stratelier]]'' 19:01, 28 February 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Yellow and Pikachu ==<br />
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There has been an edit war on the Japanese games section. I believe it should remain Pikachu, while others thing it should stay Yellow. Maybe we need an admin in on this to decide what to keep. [[User:Iml908|Iml908]] ([[User talk:Iml908|talk]]) 00:53, 19 October 2012 (UTC)<br />
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== Title screens ==<br />
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Would it be a good idea to put all the title screens on this page? --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 01:55, 19 October 2012 (UTC)<br />
:Here's my idea:<br />
{| class="roundy expandable" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background: #a0a0c4; border: 3px solid #ccf;" width="60%"<br />
|-<br />
! colspan="5" style="background: #ddf; {{roundy|5px}};" | Main series title screens<br />
|-<br />
| style="background: transparent;" |<br />
|-<br />
! style="background: #ddf; {{roundytl|5px}}" | Generation<br />
! colspan="2" style="background: #ddf;" | Paired versions<br />
! colspan="2" style="background: #ddf; {{roundytr|5px}}" | Third (or more) version(s)<br />
|- <br />
! rowspan="4" style="background: #{{kanto color}};" | {{color2|{{kanto color dark}}|Generation I|Generation&nbsp;I}}<br />
! colspan="4" style="background: #{{kanto color light}}" | {{color|{{kanto color dark}}|Japan}}<br />
|-<br />
| style="background: #{{red color light}};" width="200px" | [[File:Japanese RedTitle.png|100px]]<br />
| style="background: #{{green color light}};" width="200px" | [[File:GreenTitle.png|100px]]<br />
| style="background: #{{blue color light}};" width="100px" | [[File:Japanese BlueTitle.png|100px]]<br />
| style="background: #{{yellow color light}};" width="100px" | [[File:Japanese YellowTitle.png|100px]]<br />
|- <br />
! colspan="4" style="background: #{{kanto color light}}" | {{color|{{kanto color dark}}|International}}<br />
|-<br />
| style="background: #{{red color light}};" | [[File:RedTitle.png|100px]]<br />
| style="background: #{{blue color light}};" | [[File:BlueTitle.png|100px]]<br />
| colspan="2" style="background: #{{yellow color light}};" | [[File:YellowTitle.png|100px]]<br />
|-<br />
! style="background: #{{johto color}}; padding:5px;" | {{color2|{{johto color dark}}|Generation II|Generation&nbsp;II}}<br />
| style="background: #{{gold color light}};" | [[File:Japanese GoldTitle.png|100px]][[File:GoldTitle.png|100px]]<br />
| style="background: #{{silver color light}};" | [[File:Japanese SilverTitle.png|100px]][[File:SilverTitle.png|100px]]<br />
| colspan="2" style="background: #{{crystal color light}};" | [[File:Japanese CrystalTitle.png|100px]][[File:CrystalTitle.png|100px]]<br />
|-<br />
! rowspan="2" style="background: #{{hoenn color}}; padding:5px;" | {{color2|{{hoenn color dark}}|Generation III|Generation&nbsp;III}}<br />
| style="background: #{{ruby color light}};" | [[File:Japanese RubyTitle.png|100px]][[File:RubyTitle.png|100px]]<br />
| style="background: #{{sapphire color light}};" | [[File:Japanese SapphireTitle.png|100px]][[File:SapphireTitle.png|100px]]<br />
| colspan="2" style="background: #{{emerald color light}};" | [[File:Japanese EmeraldTitle.png|100px]][[File:EmeraldTitle.png|100px]]<br />
|-<br />
| style="background: #{{firered color light}};" | [[File:Japanese FireRedTitle.png|100px]][[File:FireRedTitle.png|100px]]<br />
| style="background: #{{leafgreen color light}};" | [[File:Japanese LeafGreenTitle.png|100px]][[File:LeafGreenTitle.png|100px]]<br />
| colspan="2" style="background: transparent;" | &nbsp;<br />
|-<br />
! rowspan="2" style="background: #{{sinnoh color}}; padding:5px;" | {{color2|{{sinnoh color dark}}|Generation IV|Generation&nbsp;IV}}<br />
| style="background: #{{diamond color light}};" | [[File:Japanese DiamondTitle.png|100px]][[File:DiamondTitle.png|100px]]<br />
| style="background: #{{pearl color light}};" | [[File:Japanese PearlTitle.png|100px]][[File:PearlTitle.png|100px]]<br />
| colspan="2" style="background: #{{platinum color light}};" | [[File:Japanese PlatinumTitle.png|100px]][[File:PlatinumTitle.png|100px]]<br />
|-<br />
| style="background: #{{heartgold color light}};" | [[File:Japanese HeartGoldTitle.png|100px]][[File:HeartGoldTitle.png|100px]]<br />
| style="background: #{{soulsilver color light}};" | [[File:Japanese SoulSilverTitle.png|100px]][[File:SoulSilverTitle.png|100px]]<br />
| style="background: transparent;" | &nbsp;<br />
|-<br />
! rowspan="2" style="background: #{{unova color}}; {{roundybl|5px}} padding:5px;" | {{color2|{{unova color dark}}|Generation V|Generation&nbsp;V}}<br />
| style="background: #{{black color light}};" | [[File:Japanese BlackTitle.png|100px]][[File:BlackTitle.png|100px]]<br />
| style="background: #{{white color light}};" | [[File:Japanese WhiteTitle.png|100px]][[File:WhiteTitle.png|100px]]<br />
| style="background: transparent;" | &nbsp;<br />
|-<br />
| style="background: #{{black 2 color light}};" | [[File:Japanese Black2Title.png|100px]][[File:Black2Title.png|100px]]<br />
| style="background: #{{white 2 color light}};" | [[File:Japanese White2Title.png|100px]][[File:White2Title.png|100px]]<br />
| style="background: transparent;" | &nbsp;<br />
|}<br />
:I know, it's stupidly gigantic, the pictures are too big, bla bla bla... but still, give me your opinion! --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 13:55, 5 November 2012 (UTC)<br />
::It looks nice though there's just too much stuff going on in this table, most of the Japanese title screens are/will most likely be shown on the Generation pages. But I'm supporting this idea. [[User: Ariano|Արիանո]] 14:14, 5 November 2012 (UTC)<br />
:::How about this:<br />
{| class="roundy expandable" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background: #a0a0c4; border: 3px solid #ccf;" width="60%"<br />
|-<br />
! colspan="5" style="background: #ddf; {{roundy|5px}};" | Main series title screens<br />
|-<br />
| style="background: transparent;" |<br />
|-<br />
! style="background: #ddf; {{roundytl|5px}}" | Generation<br />
! colspan="2" style="background: #ddf;" | Paired versions<br />
! colspan="2" style="background: #ddf; {{roundytr|5px}}" | Third (or more) version(s)<br />
|- <br />
! rowspan="4" style="background: #{{kanto color}};" | {{color2|{{kanto color dark}}|Generation I|Generation&nbsp;I}}<br />
! colspan="4" style="background: #{{kanto color light}}" | {{color|{{kanto color dark}}|Japan}}<br />
|-<br />
| style="background: #{{red color light}};" width="160px" | [[File:Japanese RedTitle.png]]<br />
| style="background: #{{green color light}};" width="160px" | [[File:GreenTitle.png]]<br />
| style="background: #{{blue color light}};" width="160px" | [[File:Japanese BlueTitle.png]]<br />
| style="background: #{{yellow color light}};" width="160px" | [[File:Japanese YellowTitle.png]]<br />
|- <br />
! colspan="4" style="background: #{{kanto color light}}" | {{color|{{kanto color dark}}|International}}<br />
|-<br />
| style="background: #{{red color light}};" | [[File:RedTitle.png]]<br />
| style="background: #{{blue color light}};" | [[File:BlueTitle.png]]<br />
| colspan="2" style="background: #{{yellow color light}};" | [[File:YellowTitle.png]]<br />
|-<br />
! style="background: #{{johto color}}; padding:5px;" | {{color2|{{johto color dark}}|Generation II|Generation&nbsp;II}}<br />
| style="background: #{{gold color light}};" | [[File:GoldTitle.png]]<br />
| style="background: #{{silver color light}};" | [[File:SilverTitle.png]]<br />
| colspan="2" style="background: #{{crystal color light}};" | [[File:CrystalTitle.png]]<br />
|-<br />
! rowspan="2" style="background: #{{hoenn color}}; padding:5px;" | {{color2|{{hoenn color dark}}|Generation III|Generation&nbsp;III}}<br />
| style="background: #{{ruby color light}};" | [[File:RubyTitle.png|160px]]<br />
| style="background: #{{sapphire color light}};" | [[File:SapphireTitle.png|160px]]<br />
| colspan="2" style="background: #{{emerald color light}};" | [[File:EmeraldTitle.png|160px]]<br />
|-<br />
| style="background: #{{firered color light}};" | [[File:FireRedTitle.png|160px]]<br />
| style="background: #{{leafgreen color light}};" | [[File:LeafGreenTitle.png|160px]]<br />
| colspan="2" style="background: transparent;" | &nbsp;<br />
|-<br />
! rowspan="2" style="background: #{{sinnoh color}}; padding:5px;" | {{color2|{{sinnoh color dark}}|Generation IV|Generation&nbsp;IV}}<br />
| style="background: #{{diamond color light}};" | [[File:DiamondTitle.png|160px]]<br />
| style="background: #{{pearl color light}};" | [[File:PearlTitle.png|160px]]<br />
| colspan="2" style="background: #{{platinum color light}};" | [[File:PlatinumTitle.png|160px]]<br />
|-<br />
| style="background: #{{heartgold color light}};" | [[File:HeartGoldTitle.png|160px]]<br />
| style="background: #{{soulsilver color light}};" | [[File:SoulSilverTitle.png|160px]]<br />
| style="background: transparent;" | &nbsp;<br />
|-<br />
! rowspan="2" style="background: #{{unova color}}; {{roundybl|5px}} padding:5px;" | {{color2|{{unova color dark}}|Generation V|Generation&nbsp;V}}<br />
| style="background: #{{black color light}};" | [[File:BlackTitle.png|160px]]<br />
| style="background: #{{white color light}};" | [[File:WhiteTitle.png|160px]]<br />
| style="background: transparent;" | &nbsp;<br />
|-<br />
| style="background: #{{black 2 color light}};" | [[File:Black2Title.png|160px]]<br />
| style="background: #{{white 2 color light}};" | [[File:White2Title.png|160px]]<br />
| style="background: transparent;" | &nbsp;<br />
|}<br />
I removed the Japanese ones, and to compensate, I made the English ones bigger. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 14:25, 5 November 2012 (UTC)<br />
:Looks better but the size is a problem. It could be hidden (or something similar to compensate) like the trainer list tables on trainer class pages so it wouldn't dominate the whole page. [[User: Ariano|Արիանո]] 14:33, 5 November 2012 (UTC)<br />
:This is a cool idea. For the English B2W2 Title Screens, shouldn't it have the word Pokémon in it though? Not sure why they aren't in the above images. [[User:Torpoleon|Torpoleon]] ([[User talk:Torpoleon|talk]]) 14:41, 5 November 2012 (UTC)<br />
::I've made both tables expandable and added a new header so it looks okay. I'll fix the title screens in a minute. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 14:49, 5 November 2012 (UTC)<br />
:::I've fixed the images. To see the correct ones, you may need to clear both the server cache and your browser cache. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 14:53, 5 November 2012 (UTC)<br />
::::So, is this going to be added soon? It looks really nice. [[User:Torpoleon|Torpoleon]] ([[User talk:Torpoleon|talk]]) 13:14, 8 November 2012 (UTC)<br />
:::::Now that all the title screens are uploaded, I really would like more opinions. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 03:19, 18 December 2012 (UTC)<br />
::::::Since XY just got announced and don't have boxarts yet, it made me realize something. If this idea did get accepted, what would we do for a new main series game, before its release? We don't have XY's title screens yet, so it would seem off for a while with this idea. Maybe we could just use each game's logos? It would certainly take up a lot less space. [[User:Torpoleon|Torpoleon]] ([[User talk:Torpoleon|talk]]) 21:51, 15 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Move - part 2 ==<br />
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With the new games "Pokémon X" and "Pokémon Y", it's undeniable that the term "Version" does not include every "main series" game anymore. [[User:Duke R|'''<font color="#444" face="Lucida Sans Unicode">|) u |( e</font>''']] [[User talk:Duke R|'''<font color="#b00" face="Verdana">®</font>''']] 22:11, 8 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Yep, it's undeniable that [[Pokémon X and Y Versions]] does not have the word "version" in it. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 22:13, 8 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
::As for the template used in Bulbapedia, the lack of the word is really a problem (as was when the word 2 was added to the end of the article's name in B2W2), but this will be solved someday. As for now, this article needs to be moved. Iwata called these games (and referred solely to these games) as the "Pokémon Series", just like they call them "Pocket Monsters Series" in Japan. Therefore, this article should be moved to "Pokémon series". [[User:Duke R|'''<font color="#444" face="Lucida Sans Unicode">|) u |( e</font>''']] [[User talk:Duke R|'''<font color="#b00" face="Verdana">®</font>''']] 22:20, 8 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::I personally think that "Pokémon series" would be ambiguous. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 22:23, 8 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::We're currently dealing with getting new information added to all the articles and keeping everything as organised as possible. We will deal with this after the staff has sat down and discussed it. Please be patient. Thanks. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">--Pokemaster</span>]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">97</span>]]''''' 22:36, 8 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Color trivia ==<br />
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Is it noteable to add that all the games released internationally with colors in their name (Red, Blue, Yellow, Black, and White) have the same names as primary colors (in other words, colors that cannot be made by a mixture of colors)? [[User:Iml908|Iml908]] ([[User talk:Iml908|talk]]) 00:38, 9 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Are we talking Scientifically or Art, because in Art Primary Colours=Red, Blue and Yellow, but in Science Primary Colours=Red, Blue and Green.[[User:TurtleLover1999|TurtleLover1999]] ([[User talk:TurtleLover1999|talk]]) 20:23, 25 February 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Art specifically. And yes, while Red, Blue, and Yellow are the main primary colors, they are defined as colors that cannot be mixed by any other color to get them. Black and White also fall under this definition. [[User:Iml908|Iml908]] ([[User talk:Iml908|talk]]) 21:38, 25 February 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::I think that's so obvious that we don't need to note it. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 05:42, 26 February 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Pardon the question, but... ==<br />
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What's the point of showing a circle with the version's color at the side of each version's name in the table? It seems rather superfluous, especially considering that each cell already has a background color corresponding to the version's color. - [[User:Ericss|Ericss]] ([[User talk:Ericss|talk]]) 08:24, 26 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Move discussion part III: Revenge of the Sith ==<br />
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So yeah. This article's title conflicts with our naming conventions in which the games are categorized into main series, side series, and spin-off games. Since it took my prodding last month to get Stadium/Colo/etc out of main series like people had been intending to do but never actually done, I'm gonna be bold and prod here to get this article moved to the title "Main series". Objections? Or if there are none, shall I move it myself (after giving this discussion an ample few days to get responses)? [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 03:35, 9 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
:For that matter, we also need an article and template for side series, since those games had their categories updated to side series but stuffed into the spin-off games article/template because there wasn't already one for them. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 03:35, 9 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Logos ==<br />
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Instead of having a colored circle and the game's name, wouldn't it be better to have their logos (or maybe title screens)? Seems a bit weird just having the colored dot and their name. I know we have just the logos for B2W2 & XY, but not sure on the others. What does everyone else think about this idea? [[User:Torpoleon|Torpoleon]] ([[User talk:Torpoleon|talk]]) 18:33, 10 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Moving Black and White 2 to Solitary versions ==<br />
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Well, should they? Its not like there is a rule that there can only be one Solitary game. [[User:Iml908|Iml908]] ([[User talk:Iml908|talk]]) 17:06, 13 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Uh... there doesn't need to be a rule because the definition of solitary is that it's unaccompanied. B2W2 are paired versions. The lack of a third version is one of the (many) pattern-breaking things Game Freak did with Generation V; we don't need to shoehorn them into that slot because of some arbitrary fan expectation for a third version. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 21:25, 13 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Stubby stubs (not in Game Stubs?) ==<br />
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Is there a reason for this article not being in the [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Category:Game_stubs "Game Stubs" Category] when the spin-offs are? Or am I being ignorant about something? ----[[User:NateVirus|<span style="color:blue">NateVirus</span>]]<small>''([[User talk:NateVirus|<span style="color:green">Talk</span>]]''|''[[Special:Contributions/NateVirus|<span style="color:red">Contributions</span>]]''</small>) 00:40, 24 September 2013 (UTC)<br />
:It's not a stub, and it doesn't have the template on it to put it in the category. --[[User:Funktastic~!|<span style="color:#009900">'''It's'''</span> <span style="color:#CC66FF">'''Funktastic~!'''</span>]][[User talk:Funktastic~!|<sub><small><span style="color:#99CCFF">''話してください''</span></small></sub>]] 00:46, 24 September 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Okay, I kinda don't understand that entirely, though. But I can make some sense out of it and accept that. Thank you, Funktastic. ----[[User:NateVirus|<span style="color:blue">NateVirus</span>]]<small>''([[User talk:NateVirus|<span style="color:green">Talk</span>]]''|''[[Special:Contributions/NateVirus|<span style="color:red">Contributions</span>]]''</small>) 00:52, 24 September 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Suggestion to Move? ==<br />
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How come there are three notices on the top of the page that says this article is to be moved to either, "Main Series", "Core Series" or "Pokemon Series" when there is no valid link to those pages. Kinda pointless to move it when those pages don't exist. I personally think this page is fine the way it is and to me, there is no need to change it at all. But obviously, thats just me, others may feel differently..... Demers-Vachon 23:23, 26 October 2013 (UTC)<br />
:It's suggesting that the name of the page be moved to one of those names... They're the intended destination pages so if they were actual pages, it couldn't be moved to that name... Please think before you type. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 23:26, 26 October 2013 (UTC)<br />
Wow thats very rude of you to say, but its the internet, your bound to see multiple of that, but anyways, I was stating what I think, very sorry if that offended you, looks like it did.. clearly. Sorry for stating how I feel.... Demers-Vachon 23:30, 26 October 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Core series ==<br />
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So I thought it would be a good idea to provide some sources for the name "core series".<br />
*[http://au.ign.com/articles/2011/02/16/pokemons-master-speaks IGN interview with Masuda]<br />
*[http://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-news/vg_pokemonxy_gf_interview-2013-10-04/ Inside the Minds Behind Pokémon]<br />
*[http://youtu.be/Afo0sk9VNww?t=7m8s Nintendo - Nintendo World Pokémon Series Showcase]<br />
*[http://iwataasks.nintendo.com/interviews/#/3ds/pokemonxy/0/1 Iwata Asks]<br />
--[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 05:39, 4 November 2013 (UTC)<br />
:I'm all for a move to "core series" if this is the name that's used officially. "Version" is nearly a conjectural title for this article anyway, cause we had to call it something. X and Y aren't even referred to as "Version", anyway. [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#006400">'''Zesty'''</span>]][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#3CB371">'''Cactus'''</span>]] 17:17, 30 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== "South Korean" games ==<br />
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What's the point of giving South Korea it's own section of the core series games? Can't it just say something like "South Korea only got the games from Gen IV, V, and VI, and only got Gold and Silver from Gen II" as a note at the bottom. <br />
Seems like a waste of space to put South Korea as an entirely separate section. --[[User:Phoenixon|Phoenixon]] ([[User talk:Phoenixon|talk]]) 14:55, 16 April 2014 (UTC)</div>Phoenixonhttps://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:List_of_Pok%C3%A9mon_by_Kalos_Pok%C3%A9dex_number&diff=2045951Talk:List of Pokémon by Kalos Pokédex number2013-12-27T20:50:26Z<p>Phoenixon: /* More trivia... */ new section</p>
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<div>Can someone unprotect the page? I already have created them [[Special:Random|<span style="font-family:Tahoma"><span style="color:#696969">'''AKUro?'''</span>]]</span> [[User talk:Akurochan|<span style="color:#010101">あくロ</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Akurochan|<sub style="color:#AEAEAE">ちゃん</sub>]] 05:57, 12 October 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Done--[[User:Spriteit|Spriteit]] ([[User talk:Spriteit|talk]]) 06:05, 12 October 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== More trivia... ==<br />
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I'm not sure about this, but isn't the Kalos dex the only regional dex to contain legendary Pokemon from previous generations (the birds and Mewtwo)? I mean, except for Gen II's "New" Pokedex... --[[User:Phoenixon|Phoenixon]] ([[User talk:Phoenixon|talk]]) 20:50, 27 December 2013 (UTC)</div>Phoenixonhttps://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Pok%C3%A9mon_X_and_Y&diff=2045605Talk:Pokémon X and Y2013-12-27T13:15:39Z<p>Phoenixon: /* Double negative */</p>
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== Titles missing "Version"? ==<br />
Do the titles include "version" this time? I'm not seeing it on the official site or the trailer. I think they're just called Pokemon X and Pokemon Y now. [[User:Hheebo|Hheebo]] ([[User talk:Hheebo|talk]]) 14:17, 8 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Pokémon X and Y "Versions"? ==<br />
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Is it right to be calling them Pokemon X Version and Pokemon Y version? Unlike previous games Nintendo hasn't used the word "version" when referring to them by name, just calling them Pokemon X and Pokemon Y rather than, to use the most recent example, "Pokemon Black Version 2" and "Pokemon White Version 2". The logos don't contain the word "version" either. I think they should simply be referred to as Pokemon X and Y.<br />
EDIT: Ninja'd by Hheebo. Delete if necessary.<br />
[[User:NFreak007|NFreak007]] ([[User talk:NFreak007|talk]]) 14:19, 8 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:I second this. "Versions" hasn't been mentioned at all, nor are contained in the logos. If "Versions" were in the title, there's usually a habit of saying it every time the game title comes up. It's misleading to list the article as it being called "X and Y ''Versions''" if there really isn't any facts backing that up. --[[User:Manaphy1|Manaphy1]] 16:20, 8 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Thirded. It should be [[Pokémon X and Y]], as I stated on [[Pokémon Black and White Versions 2]]'s trivia section. Please rename this page and change this article and the Generation VI one accordingly. [[User:Digifiend|Digifiend]] ([[User talk:Digifiend|talk]]) 17:15, 8 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::Fourthed. Every other main series entry has had "version" on it, this is different in all languages. This should be reflected in the title of the page. {{unsigned|NP Chilla}}<br />
::::[http://www.thesixthaxis.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/PokemonXY8-1024x640.jpg Here]. Enjoy. [[User:Masatoshi|<span style="color: #224a9a"><b><span style="color: #2b5fc7">M</span>asatoshi</b></span>]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|<span style="color: #118eb2"><sub><small>''talk''</small></sub></span>]] 18:00, 8 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::::That seems to be a screenshot from Nintendo3DS's video. The official Pokémon channel uploaded the same trailer, and they don't use the word Version, and they're strict with that word, putting it in all Black Version 1 and White Version 1 videos. <span style="font-family:AR DARLING; font-size:12pt">[[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="maroon">'''Ultimatum'''</font>]]</span> 19:31, 8 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::::The same video is also on Pokemon.com, without the word "Version." I fifth the notion that it should be struck from here, because it doesn't appear to be in any official media. --[[User:The Great Butler|The Great Butler]] ([[User talk:The Great Butler|talk]]) 02:40, 9 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::::::I think it would be a good idea to move it to [[Pokémon X and Y]], 'cause it doesn't even say the name "version" in the title. In previous games, the official sources have said "Pokémon [title] Version" only if it has the word "version in the logo. These games are different, they don't have "version" in the title at all, so I really wouldn't see any reason to have it titled "Pokémon X and Y Versions".—[[User:Platinum Lucario|Platinum Lucario]] ([[User talk:Platinum Lucario|talk]]) 10:29, 9 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::::::I would like to agree with the page move as well, but I really can't say until there is more usage of just "Pokemon X and Y" an not "Pokemon X version and Pokemon Y version". I am undecided since I've seen Pokémon Direct recordings with the word "version" in it (like in the picture posted by Masatoshi), but everything else points to just calling it [[Pokémon X and Y]]. - <span style="background:#96EAFF;border: 1px solid#0000FF">''[[User:Vhayes1992|<b style="color:#FF0000">Vhayes</b>]]<small><sup style="color:#00027F">1992</sup></small>''</span> 23:38, 9 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:The official press release repeatedly lists the trademarked titles as ''Pokémon X'' and ''Pokémon Y'' and never uses the term "Version." Excerpt: "''Pokémon X'' and ''Pokémon Y'' will be the blueprint for an exciting array of new animation, Pokémon TCG, and toys debuting around the world."<br />
:In all of their press releases for other games in the series they use "Version," for example this excerpt from the B2W2 press release: "The successors to the acclaimed ''Pokémon Black Version'' and ''Pokémon White Version'' games, ''Pokémon Black Version 2'' and ''Pokémon White Version 2''..."<br />
:So it seems pretty obvious that it should be moved to "Pokémon X and Y."[[User:AmaranthSparrow|AmaranthSparrow]] ([[User talk:AmaranthSparrow|talk]]) 21:40, 9 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Heck, even Pokémon.com reads "''An all-new 3D Pokémon adventure packed with never-before-seen Pokémon will launch worldwide in October 2013. '''Pokémon X''' and '''Pokémon Y''' will present a new generation of Pokémon, and introduce players to an exciting new adventure in a breathtaking 3D world.''" Could an admin PLEASE hurry up and move the name of this page? <span style="font-family:Estrangelo Edessa; font-size:12pt">[[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="maroon">'''Ultimatum'''</font>]]</span> 23:25, 9 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::By moving the page, not only would {{template|v}}, {{template|2v}}, {{template|2v2}}, and {{template|game}} have to be edited (besides the fact that they are all massively used) but [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Special:WhatLinksHere/Pok%C3%A9mon_X_and_Y_Versions&limit=500 every single page] that links here would also have to be edited. There's also {{template|PokémonInfobox}}, which is only used on '''over 650 pages'''. Templates on the Archives would also have to be changed. <!--Unless you want the unprofessional redirect sign appearing all the time.-->--[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 23:44, 9 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::I'm against moving this page, at the very least until further information is available. "Version" is part of what separates the main series for games like Stadium, XD, and the like. Furthermore, there is at least some evidence that these games are still titled "X Version" and "Y Version" as seen in the picture Masa posted. It seems to me like the company is merely advertising the game in this manner because this is how the fandom always refers to the games, that is, without the word "version". Furthermore, this is probably simpler since it saves them the trouble of having to write "version" in several different languages all at once (remember, this is getting an instant worldwide release, and "Pokemon" is pretty universal while "version" isn't). We should at least wait a while before moving the page, and then having to move it back again. [[User:Crystal Talian|<span style="color:#9F00C5">Crystal</span>]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|<span style="color:#FF00FF">Talian</span>]] 23:49, 9 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::::Just to clarify, Masatoshi's image wasn't official; the official trailer doesn't have that banner on it, nor refers to them at all as having "Versions". As for the templates, they don't appear hard to edit in a change if you use "if switches". --[[User:Manaphy1|Manaphy1]] 00:53, 10 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::::Just to clarify, "#if:" switches work differently than "#switch:"es. Don't worry though, it'll only cause the servers to fail like when {{template|roundy}} used them.--[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 01:08, 10 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::::His image was official. [http://www.nintendo.nl/Divers/Nintendo-Direct/Laatstse-Nintendo-Direct/Nintendo-Direct-698557.html This] is official straight from Nintendo's website. It says "version". This is why I am sort of reserving a conclusion and doing a wait and see. - <span style="background:#96EAFF;border: 1px solid#0000FF">''[[User:Vhayes1992|<b style="color:#FF0000">Vhayes</b>]]<small><sup style="color:#00027F">1992</sup></small>''</span> 02:16, 10 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Where? From what I can see, it calls them Polémon X (lol, presumably a typo) and Pokémon Y. [[User:Digifiend|Digifiend]] ([[User talk:Digifiend|talk]]) 03:48, 10 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
::'''The video.''' --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 03:49, 10 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::Seems more likely to be some sort of mistake, given that the other videos don't feature that and the press release specifically omits the word. Anyway, I have contacted Nintendo regarding the title of the games, and will wait to see what they have to say about it. --[[User:Dorsal Axe|Dorsal Axe]] ([[User talk:Dorsal Axe|talk]]) 17:14, 10 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::[http://www.nintendo.co.uk/Misc-/Nintendo-Direct/2013/Pokemon-Direct-08-01-2013/Nintendo-Direct-699626.html What about the Nintendo's UK website?] --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 21:46, 10 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::::All of the official Nintendo websites, including even the Pokémon website clearly state it as '''Pokémon X''' and '''Pokémon Y'''. There is '''no''' official Nintendo website that calls them "Pokémon X Version" and "Pokémon Y Version".—[[User:Platinum Lucario|Platinum Lucario]] ([[User talk:Platinum Lucario|talk]]) 08:19, 11 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::::The point is that in the official Pokémon Direct announcement it is present. Every other main series game has it, and in the official announcement (which is on official Nintendo websites) it uses it. Until we get boxart, we should follow what we have been given. It is very commonplace to drop "version" when talking about the titles (Iwata did it himself in the Pokémon Direct video, while "version" was shown on the screen). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 08:38, 11 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Okay, [http://i.imgur.com/9ANSo.png Nintendo got back to me]. According to them, it's just "Pokémon X" and "Pokémon Y", and they go on to mention that whatever the website says is the "current" and most up-to-date official source. (and I must say, I'm impressed with how quickly they responded :p). --[[User:Dorsal Axe|Dorsal Axe]] ([[User talk:Dorsal Axe|talk]]) 13:36, 11 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Then they forgot to remove the Version thing in the video. This seems solid enough for us. We would be moving this page to '''[[Pokémon X and Y]]''' and doing all necessary changes soon (not before letting the rest of the staff know). [[User:Masatoshi|<span style="color: #224a9a"><b><span style="color: #2b5fc7">M</span>asatoshi</b></span>]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|<span style="color: #118eb2"><sub><small>''talk''</small></sub></span>]] 14:32, 11 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::Upon further discussion, we decided to put the moving on hold until we make sure of some stuff related to TPCi. It's still strange that after 15 years, they decide to drop "Version" just like that. [[User:Masatoshi|<span style="color: #224a9a"><b><span style="color: #2b5fc7">M</span>asatoshi</b></span>]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|<span style="color: #118eb2"><sub><small>''talk''</small></sub></span>]] 16:49, 11 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::Aww, can't you please move the page already? It's already been confirmed by Nintendo that it's called simply '''Pokémon X''' and '''Pokémon Y''', it even says that in the official '''logos''' of the trailer and official website of http://www.pokemon.com/pokemonxy/en-us/ that it's only called Pokémon X and Pokémon Y. What do you think? Do you really think it's going to change just to the way you think it's going to be? I'm afraid you're just not used to change, and I understand it takes us a while to adapt to change. ^^—[[User:Platinum Lucario|Platinum Lucario]] ([[User talk:Platinum Lucario|talk]]) 04:38, 15 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::::It has nothing to do with being afraid of change. We needed to be absolutely sure, which is why they've put it off so far. '''[[Team Rocket|<small><span style="color: #550000;">R.A.</span></small>]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Hunter</font></small>]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Blade</font></small>]]''' 05:22, 15 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::::I'm sure we have had plenty of proof that it is simply Pokémon X and Pokémon Y, having known that http://www.pokemon.com/pokemonxy/en-us/ is an '''official source''' that comes from the '''official''' Pokémon website. That website alone is enough to make you absolutely sure that it really is '''official'''. ;) —[[User:Platinum Lucario|Platinum Lucario]] ([[User talk:Platinum Lucario|talk]]) 14:47, 17 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
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==New region==<br />
In this article it states that the new region is likely based off of France but the [[Generation VI]] page says it draws inspiration from various points within Europe. The pages should be more consistent and more neutral about the subject. [[User: Ariano|Արիանո]] 14:50, 8 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
* The Nintendo Direct Trailer begins with Pikachu atop the Eiffel Tower. Unova draws from inspirations outside of the strict real world New York; it's not conflicting to say it's both based on France and draws inspiration from the rest of Europe. <br />
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== Trivia to be added, I believe... ==<br />
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A bit of trivia to be added:<br />
*These are the first main series games to have letters in the title rather than color names.<br />
*The game titles may be named after the X and Y axes of the [[wp:Cartesian coordinate system|Cartesian coordinations]]. ~~<font face="Verdana">'''''[[User:LDEJRuff|LDE]][[User talk:LDEJRuff|JRuff]]'''''</font>~~ 10:04, 8 January, 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Given that the Japanese logos clearly have DNA helixes in them, I think it's safe to say that they were going for genetics. Not coordinates. <sup>[[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup>[[User:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">Jo the Marten</span>]]<sup>[[Flygon (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup> [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">ಠ_ಠ</span>]][[Cilan (anime)|<span style="color:#90C870;">♥</span>]] 15:10, 8 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Why not both? --[[User:Dorsal Axe|Dorsal Axe]] ([[User talk:Dorsal Axe|talk]]) 15:23, 8 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::Because the Japanese logos have DNA helixes in them so they are standing for genetics, not coordinates. It was made pretty clear by Jo. [[User:Rainbow Shifter|Rainbow Shifter]] ([[User talk:Rainbow Shifter|talk]]) 17:09, 8 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
They're obviously named after the x and y chromosomes, not coordinates. [[User:Munlax|Munlax]] ([[User talk:Munlax|talk]]) 17:14, 8 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::Could it not be a double meaning? [[User:Digifiend|Digifiend]] ([[User talk:Digifiend|talk]]) 17:16, 8 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::::And what makes you think it's coordinates? For all I know, we could also use algebraic expressions. So far, Jo's bet is the safest. Since it has helixes that resemble a DNA string, it's unlikely to have been based in coordinates. [[User:Masatoshi|<span style="color: #224a9a"><b><span style="color: #2b5fc7">M</span>asatoshi</b></span>]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|<span style="color: #118eb2"><sub><small>''talk''</small></sub></span>]] 17:19, 8 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::::It's obviously based on Genetics, but Gamefreak and Nintendo love puns. X axis and Y axis. If the third legendary forms a Z shape, then I think it's safe to say that it's also partially a stealth 3DS pun --[[User:Shadowater|Shadowater]] ([[User talk:Shadowater|talk]]) 20:26, 8 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Why would it be based off coordinates anyway? It makes more sense to have them based off genetics seeming as you breed Pokemon in the game. And no, it has been said numerous times: The Japanese logos have '''DNA''' helixes in them. End of story. [[User:Rainbow Shifter|Rainbow Shifter]] ([[User talk:Rainbow Shifter|talk]]) 17:23, 8 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::That doesn't really discount the other reasoning. You may notice the logo is also in 3D text (which they've never done for a logo before), which would indicate to me that they're going for a double entendre with the titles. --[[User:Dorsal Axe|Dorsal Axe]] ([[User talk:Dorsal Axe|talk]]) 17:41, 8 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::::::I thought it was to do with the buttons on the DS and 3DS consoles, shows what I know...[[User:TurtleLover1999|TurtleLover1999]] ([[User talk:TurtleLover1999|talk]]) 20:31, 8 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
More trivia for your perusal: They'll be the first main series games to be released simultaneously worldwide, and "Pokemon X" was the original name for both Lugia and Pokemon Crystal. '''<span style="color:#00AB47;">[[User:Luigi-San|Luigi-San]]</span>''' 22:10, 8 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::::::I agree about the released simultaneously worldwide as I was planning to suggest that myself. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] ([[User talk:Tyler53841|talk]]) 02:13, 9 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::::I don't think that the genetic base is so obvious, that thing in the logo can mean a lot of things. Also the coordinates reasoning in the first 3-'''dimentional''' game on a '''3D'''S is supported by the fact that Yveltal is flying while Xerneas is on the ground, like the axes. Can't be a coincidence. However save this geneticVSgeometic debate til we know if there is any Z Pokemon. It would kill the genetic theory and support the coordinates one. --[[User:Tano|Tano]] ([[User talk:Tano|talk]]) 20:22, 12 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::::::The fact that one flies and the other one roams the land does not mean they are based in coordinates or spacial axes, it CAN be a coincidence. The DNA string is heavily implied in the Japanese logo and supports the theory, while the axial theory only has a "What if the third version is Z?" as its support, and the fact that Xerneas runs horizontally (Even diagonally when it jumps!) and Yveltal flies (although horizontally, vertically, diagonally, you name it). [[User:Masatoshi|<span style="color: #224a9a"><b><span style="color: #2b5fc7">M</span>asatoshi</b></span>]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|<span style="color: #118eb2"><sub><small>''talk''</small></sub></span>]] 20:35, 12 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::::::They would have been pretty stupid if they made them able to move only horizontally or vertically, and unable to jump. What kind of argument is that? The point is that the X axis on a graph goes across, the Y axis goes up, and is the Y Pokemon that flies, while the X pokemon is on the ground, not the opposite. However, ''as I said'', we should wait. I'm not saying that the coordinates theory is the right one (well, that's my intuition), but I don't think you have any proof to say for sure that they're related to chromosomes either, except a small low definition detail on the logo that could be anything. I can totally see a Z pokemon related to stereo3D coming. It's almost impossible that they'll do nothing to use the 3D function of the console. —[[User:Tano|Tano]] ([[User talk:Tano|talk]]) 21:14, 12 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
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==Based off France?==<br />
To suggest the region will 'likely' be based on France seems to be speculation of the sort that the banner of the top forbids, Tokyo also has a structure like the Eiffel Tower. [[User:Alexsau1991|Alexsau1991]] ([[User talk:Alexsau1991|talk]]) 17:12, 8 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:The streets have an European-like setting; Pikachu spread his message from a location that seemed to be the same as France; that tower looks like the Eiffel Tower and it seems to use gray instead of white and red. While it's not confirmed, it is plausible that the region might be based in France. [[User:Masatoshi|<span style="color: #224a9a"><b><span style="color: #2b5fc7">M</span>asatoshi</b></span>]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|<span style="color: #118eb2"><sub><small>''talk''</small></sub></span>]] 17:18, 8 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
::While it seems plausible, even likely. Isn't it still speculation? And why the entire region, rather than that particular city (I don't recall France having a desert, for example)? Castelia City in Black and White is said to be based off New York, yet the entire region isn't said to be based on the USA. [[User:Alexsau1991|Alexsau1991]] ([[User talk:Alexsau1991|talk]]) 17:23, 8 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::There's a big difference between the USA and France, the US is a massive country (in terms of size and little would be explored, if not ignoring plenty of cities). I for one think it ''may'' be based in Europe, but that city, along with that picture with the bridge remind me of the {{wp|Palace of Versailles}}. Most people seem to agree it might be based in Europe/France, so for the time being, we'll leave it like this. [[User:Masatoshi|<span style="color: #224a9a"><b><span style="color: #2b5fc7">M</span>asatoshi</b></span>]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|<span style="color: #118eb2"><sub><small>''talk''</small></sub></span>]] 17:50, 8 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Pikachu's pretty clearly shown on the Eiffel Tower, in a country in the general location that everyone expects France to be. --[[User:Dorsal Axe|Dorsal Axe]] ([[User talk:Dorsal Axe|talk]]) 18:05, 8 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::Regardless it is very blatant '''speculation''', of which this encyclopaedia has clearly warned it's editors of avoiding. Popular agreement is '''NOT''' ''"confirmation by a reliable source"''. What's the point in that rule, if your so keen on breaking it? [[User:Alexsau1991|Alexsau1991]] ([[User talk:Alexsau1991|talk]]) 18:41, 8 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::Yeah, I do agree that it's speculation right now. It's like when everybody put Kyurem as the third member of the Tao trio before it was confirmed, despite them arguing tooth and nail and out right refusing to allow Giratina to be stated as the third member of the Dragon trio before Platinum came out [[User:Shadowater|Shadowater]] ([[User talk:Shadowater|talk]]) 20:28, 8 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::::Exactly. It's really inconsistent. As an admin, it seems as if Masatoshi is going for a 'do as I say, not as I do'. You can't rule 'no speculation', then allow a piece that you favour, or personally find convincing. <br />
:::::Even if the Eiffel Tower could be considered more than speculation, how do we arrive at the fact the WHOLE region is based on France?.. It's conjecture after conjecture... [[User:Alexsau1991|Alexsau1991]] ([[User talk:Alexsau1991|talk]]) 01:04, 9 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::::In the trailer, Pikachu is seen on top of the Eiffel Tower. Literally. The camera zooms out and shows it in France. Saying the region is based on France is less of speculation, and more of an observation giving readers some idea what the region looks like. Rather than explaining every tiny little detail about the location, we can just blanket sweep it by saying, "It looks a lot like France." But obviously it's NOT France, cause Pokémon regions have almost never been real locations. (Sans Kanto. Kind of.) <sup>[[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup>[[User:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">Jo the Marten</span>]]<sup>[[Flygon (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup> [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">ಠ_ಠ</span>]][[Cilan (anime)|<span style="color:#90C870;">♥</span>]] 01:31, 9 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::::::I think it would be a good idea to forbid this from being posted for now until more conclusive proof is gathered by any means from official sources to verify this though it would be a very slim chance that any of this is true. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] ([[User talk:Tyler53841|talk]]) 02:16, 9 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::::::I should also point out that Junichi Masuda's current Twitter profile picture is him next to the Eiffel Tower and there is at least one message commenting on his trip to France. Possibly a coincidence, though it's hardly an argument against the region being based off France. - [[User:Blazios|<span style="color:navy">Blazios</span>]] [[User Talk:Blazios|<span style="color:limegreen"><sub>talk</sub></span>]] 02:23, 9 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::Texas has an Eiffel Tower. Japan has a Statue of Liberty too, but Japan isn't the first place you think of when you think of the Statue of Liberty, is it? Then don't even get me started on Las Vegas. Pikachu is in the real life France in the intro, the girl's attire seems very French to me personally, the Pokémon team went to France for "work related reasons". I don't really see anything pointing it away from France, and I'm done having this discussion. There are more important things to worry about. <sup>[[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup>[[User:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">Jo the Marten</span>]]<sup>[[Flygon (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup> [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">ಠ_ಠ</span>]][[Cilan (anime)|<span style="color:#90C870;">♥</span>]] 02:53, 9 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::huh. didn't know france had a desert. that city is obviously based on paris, but i have doubts on the entire region being based on france alone. just my 2cents, i could be wrong, but hey, speculation is speculation ;) [[User:Tarilaan|Tarilaan]] ([[User talk:Tarilaan|talk]]) 11:37, 9 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::::Pretty sure there's not a desert full of ancient ruins or mountain ranges in New York City, either, yet they're both in Unova. The game COULD be based in all of Europe, but so far we've only seen evidence of France. Saying the game "seems to be based on France" doesn't exclude the possibility of it also being based on other areas as well, in any case. --[[User:ACDragonMaster|ACDragonMaster]] ([[User talk:ACDragonMaster|talk]]) 02:54, 10 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Europe is the safest assumption til the game is released and we can tell for sure if it's France or more. No reason to rush guys, we don't have enough information. Even if all we have seen is from France (it's not), it still doesn't mean that there won't be any Pisa Tower or Berlin Wall or Roman Coliseum (that I'd very much like) in another footage. --[[User:Tano|Tano]] ([[User talk:Tano|talk]]) 20:25, 12 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Also the 2 legendaries "Xcalibur" and "Yvern" have a great European feeling more then French. –[[User:Tano|Tano]] ([[User talk:Tano|talk]]) 21:16, 12 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Exactly, we don't have enough information, so why should we jump to "it seems to be based on Europe" from the get-go? If anything, all evidence points to France (Eiffel tower, Versailles, Pikachu's location, Masuda's trip, etc.) It's still speculation, however, one way or the other.[[User:Gacs|Gacs]] ([[User talk:Gacs|talk]]) 08:02, 13 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::France is in Europe. I think it's a safe assumption. —[[User:Tano|Tano]] ([[User talk:Tano|talk]]) 10:17, 13 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::The page says Europe. I am putting an end to this discussion on Bulbapedia. If you wish to speculate more on the subject, take it to [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/f693/ the forums]. Subsequent messages will be removed, and blocks may be handed out. <sup>[[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup>[[User:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">Jo the Marten</span>]]<sup>[[Flygon (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup> [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">ಠ_ಠ</span>]][[Cilan (anime)|<span style="color:#90C870;">♥</span>]] 10:50, 13 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
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Masuda himself said in a Q&A at E3 that the region is based off of France. [[User:KennyMc0294|KennyMc0294]] ([[User talk:KennyMc0294|talk]]) 0145, 16 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Region is based in France ==<br />
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Besides the obvious Eiffel Tower reference, I found out that the buildings shown are reminiscent of Paris's type (which was forced as an official style there) and additionally, the place Pikachu is giving the conference is Paris.<br />
I'm including the picture for future reference.<br />
[http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/large/714858374.png?key=25601440&Expires=1357683885&Key-Pair-Id=APKAIYVGSUJFNRFZBBTA&Signature=cMmYD40-9pvM7rc2~DneFwveDyESiYlke9L7VLrKMgbxx17yzOX7SfaL0oLKZUA~kRH4KcIMGYHdMDnfQ35-hhN50gESVjsub7Jbcpfstq2AhsJnHXQVj36ktl~N5qZLf9cNqzq71xKIMedbWhyydovcNqw3jd~j6ylnFaxcxh4_]<br />
--[[User:M.vit|M.vit]] ([[User talk:M.vit|talk]]) 22:09, 8 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:There's a section discussing that right above this one. Please join that conversation instead of starting a new section for the same thing. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">--Pokemaster</span>]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">97</span>]]''''' 22:15, 8 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Except South Korea ==<br />
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In the video, they only say "except select countries". --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 22:20, 8 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Xerneas and Yveltal ==<br />
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Pokemon.com just confirmed the names of the mascots: Bambi is called Xerneas and Tweety is called Yveltal. http://www.pokemon.com/pokemonxy/en-us/ [[User:NP Chilla|NP Chilla]] ([[User talk:NP Chilla|talk]]) 14:14, 9 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Interwiki ==<br />
Why don't you add the other lenguages? [http://wiki.pokemoncentral.it/Pok%C3%A9mon_X_e_Y Central Wiki], [http://www.pokewiki.de/Pok%C3%A9mon_X_und_Pok%C3%A9mon_Y PokéWiki], [http://poketeca.com/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_X_y_Y Pokéteca] ? --[[User:Zapdos96|Zapdos96]] ([[User talk:Zapdos96|talk]]) 18:02, 12 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Done. (Thanks for the reminder.) --[[User:神奇超龍|<font color="#2B547E">'''超龍'''</font>]]<sub><small>「'''[[User talk:神奇超龍|Chao]]'''」</small></sub> 18:09, 12 January 2013 (UTC)<br><br />
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== Name origin ==<br />
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According to Japanese websites, the X and Y refer to the chromosomes --[[User:Ext|Ext]] ([[User talk:Ext|talk]]) 18:18, 12 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Link to the source please. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 20:38, 12 January 2013 (UTC) <br />
:[http://blog.esuteru.com/archives/6852422.html]here at comment #1154 talking about the logo showing DNA. Also here [http://pokemonxy.jp/news/20130108/pokemon_dna.html] read the article. The logo on the article should be updated. --[[User:Ext|Ext]] ([[User talk:Ext|talk]]) 13:25, 17 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Error ==<br />
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It says "The first Pokémon '''to be released'''" when it should say "The first Pokémon '''revealed'''". &mdash;[[User:Clubchloe1|<span style="color:#025DA6;">'''Club'''</span>]][[User talk:Clubchloe1|<span style="color:#EA1A3E;">'''chloe1'''</span>]] 19:49, 14 February 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Bolero Time ==<br />
So are we going to completely ignore the fact that the male character is blatantly skating/roller-blading in the trailer? <br />
Twenty-six seconds in to the trailer. I mean, this is new game-play right? I'm mentioning it here because I know if I just go ahead and put it in I'll get loads of "well he might be using Surf or something" complaints because for some reason it's only worth adding if an admin happens to like it. So yeah. [[User:Me, Hurray!|Me, Hurray!]] ([[User talk:Me, Hurray!|talk]]) 22:52, 19 February 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== November 2, 2013 ==<br />
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Gamestop apparently lists the game's American release as Nov. 2nd, 2013? Is this true, and if so, wouldn't the article need to be updated to match it?--[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] ([[User talk:Darknesslover5000|talk]]) 05:38, 20 February 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Gamestop usually lists a incorrect date before a game comes out, so I wouldn't worry about updating the page. --[[User:Funktastic~!|<span style="color:#009900">'''It's'''</span> <span style="color:#CC66FF">'''Funktastic~!'''</span>]][[User talk:Funktastic~!|<sub><small><span style="color:#99CCFF">''話してください''</span></small></sub>]] 05:43, 20 February 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Thank you. I can rest easy--[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] ([[User talk:Darknesslover5000|talk]]) 05:48, 20 February 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::No so much an incorrect date as their estimation. They have to make these estimations for the purposes of preorders. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 07:26, 20 February 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== RFE: Broken Link in Bulbanews box ==<br />
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The Bulbanews box currently gets the link wrong:<br />
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'''<nowiki>{{bulbanews|game}}</nowiki>''' links to [[:n:Category:Articles relating to Pokémon X and Y]] but the actual page is [[:n:Category:Articles relating to Pokémon X and Y Versions]].<br />
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It should be '''<nowiki>{{bulbanews|game|Pokémon X and Y Versions}}</nowiki>''' instead. --''[[User:Stratelier|Stratelier]]'' 19:16, 28 February 2013 (UTC)<br />
:I've changed the category on Bulbanews. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 06:52, 8 March 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Mewtwo's Awakened Form ==<br />
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A new, Mewtwo-esque Pokémon has been revealed. It needs to be added to this page.<br />
*http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vk_YC0MXJ-0&list=PLQWzKIaERirwczLwQE6HegZyd4pYV5AwH <br />
*http://www.pokemon.com/pokemonxy/en-us/<br />
[[User:MasterZ|MasterZ]] ([[User talk:MasterZ|talk]]) 23:48, 6 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
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It should be added on this page, but there isn't much anyone can write about it, as nothing is known except for the fact it's similar to Mewtwo. (Although in my opinion, I think it should just be noted with a photo about the new Pokemon in the Pokemon X and Y page and the Generation VI page). Btw, this new generation is totaly getting me pumped up for October! I know thats not a place to say that, but yea, just wanted to put that out there! LOL Hopefully new information will be available soon! :) PokeNerd 07:07, 7 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
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Well, it's been added. Now we have to keep an eye out for its name... Maybe in the meantime we could just call it "New Mewtwo". [[User:MasterZ|MasterZ]] ([[User talk:MasterZ|talk]]) 20:15, 7 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
:NO. Absolutely no speculating for now. We need to wait for an official name. ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|<span style="color:teal">Frozen</span>]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|<span style="color:green">Fennec</span>]]'' 20:21, 7 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
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While I agree 100% with no speculation, if the image is there, the presence of this new Mewtwo-like Pokemon and its role in the new movie should be mentioned under "New Pokemon", especially since I believe that would make it the first Gen VI Pokemon to appear in the anime. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] ([[User talk:Drake Clawfang|talk]]) 22:07, 7 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
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We should call it ?????????? for now. [[User:MewtwoForm2|MewtwoForm2]] ([[User talk:MewtwoForm2|talk]]) 23:04, 7 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
:We just need to wait. That's all I have to say regarding its name. ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|<span style="color:teal">Frozen</span>]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|<span style="color:green">Fennec</span>]]'' 23:08, 7 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
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I agree, leave it how it is! There is nothing further that anyone can tell at this time! Like I said above, they have only stated it shares similarities to Mewtwo and nothing else at this time! Naming it "??????????" is pointless, having a photo on the Pokemon X and Y page is just fine (how it is now). When more CONCRETE evidence is revealed, then a page should and will be made for the new Pokemon! Till then, lets just be amazed and in awe of this new Pokemon! :) PokeNerd 11:10, 8 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
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[[User:Poko10|Poko10]] ([[User talk:Poko10|talk]]) 10:35, 13 April 2013 (UTC)PEOPLE i found a probable corocoro leak! It confirms that the new "mewtwo" IS a new forme. :D<br />
*Same here, it's probably okay to label its box as "Mewtwo" or "New Mewtwo forme" at this point. [[User:Darthrai|Darthrai]] ([[User talk:Darthrai|talk]]) 14:25, 13 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
::[[n:CoroCoro reveals last week's unveiled Pokémon to be Forme of Mewtwo]] --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 14:45, 13 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
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Not to speculate, but considering the movie's called Mewtwo's Awakening, and the form is described as Mewtwo awakening in its new form, I would say it's called "Awakened Form". But we should just wait for more info and add the artwork to the [[Mewtwo]] page. [[User:MasterZ|MasterZ]] ([[User talk:MasterZ|talk]]) 15:57, 13 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
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I agree we should probably wait for more information before we start naming things. [[User:Poko10|Poko10]] ([[User talk:Poko10|talk]]) 00:08, 14 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
:When a name comes out, we'll add it, but this talkpage isn't the place to speculate about what it could be. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">--Pokemaster</span>]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">97</span>]]''''' 00:22, 14 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
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Now that its been confirmed as a new forme of Mewtwo, can that be officially added to the page and Mewtwo's page? Or should we wait? Demers-Vachon 01:45, 19 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
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Why was the new Mewtwo picture removed in the recent update? <br />
[[User:CrystalHalfBreed|CrystalHalfBreed]] ([[User talk:CrystalHalfBreed|talk]]) 19:18, 22 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Because its been confirmed to be a new form and not a new Pokémon. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 11:29, 23 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
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Maybe we should make a new section for revealed forms of pokemon? Or place something in the screen shot section? It seems weird not to have any of this news anywhere on the page.<br />
[[User:CrystalHalfBreed|CrystalHalfBreed]] ([[User talk:CrystalHalfBreed|talk]]) 15:51, 23 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Possible Pokémon X and Y Release date ==<br />
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Hi! I'm new at this and I wanna share something to you all.<br />
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While I'm searching the web about Pokémon, I found a Wikipedia page titled ''2013 in video gaming'' and I was so excited to see a release date for ''Pokémon X and Y''. This maybe unofficial because I couldn't see any reference about the date. So here's the link: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_in_video_gaming#October.E2.80.93December 2013 in video gaming]<br />
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I hope this will help and also please reply... thank you! --[[User:AwesomeDJPokemon|AwesomeDJPokemon]] ([[User talk:AwesomeDJPokemon|talk]]) 15:10, 8 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:From our article:<br />
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::"The paired versions will be released worldwide (except for select countries) on '''October 2013''' and will be available for both retail sale and download."<br />
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:It was announced in the first trailer I believe. --[[User:Spriteit|Spriteit]] ([[User talk:Spriteit|talk]]) 15:13, 8 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Yeah, basically everyone has known the release date since the games were announced. I wonder where you have been for the past three months.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#AB0909">電</font><font color="#063A73">禅</font>]]<small>[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#fff" face="Tahoma"><span style="text-shadow:#000 0.2em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Den Zen</span></font>]]</small>''' 15:23, 8 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
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::: Well, I knew that it was going to be released in October but I was talking about the exact '''date''' of the release. --[[User:AwesomeDJPokemon|AwesomeDJPokemon]] ([[User talk:AwesomeDJPokemon|talk]]) 15:30, 8 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::: Oh, sorry. I didn't notice that there was '20' in the table. I'm sure it's just an assumption though.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#AB0909">電</font><font color="#063A73">禅</font>]]<small>[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#fff" face="Tahoma"><span style="text-shadow:#000 0.2em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Den Zen</span></font>]]</small>''' 15:52, 8 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:::::Thank you for noticing it! I just wanna contribute to you guys this and other information about the game and the franchise. --[[User:AwesomeDJPokemon|AwesomeDJPokemon]] ([[User talk:AwesomeDJPokemon|talk]]) 16:06, 8 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::::Wikipedia is only reliable when a source is provided. I tracked down [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2013_in_video_gaming&diff=539765900&oldid=539723107 the edit which added the 20], and no source was provided. I have now removed that from the Wikipedia page. Thanks for pointing it out though. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 12:51, 9 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::::: Just to let you know, the release date that says October 20th is back on that wikipedia page, I even called my game stores in my home town and all of them just have October 2013, no specific date. So whoever added that to wiki page, needs to A) remove it or B) provide a real source to where they got that release date from! PokeNerd 01:19, 10 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::::::The same user removed it later, so it's fine now. (Also, we really shouldn't use a Bulbapedia talk page to discuss a Wikipedia issue.) --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 08:12, 11 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Lots of new Pokemon revealed, new region revealed, slight customization revealed, etc. etc. ETC! ==<br />
Seriously, this is a news overload. We even have some info about the starters! Somebody, add all this! Especially the new Pokemon! We even have pages for them, now! {{unsigned|Poko907}}<br />
:Please allow some time, we've been working hard to add and update in a timely manner. The new information will be added ASAP. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">--Pokemaster</span>]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">97</span>]]''''' 15:59, 11 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
:: It's on the page now! Awesome! {{unsigned|Poko907}}<br />
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== Boxes exist now ==<br />
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[[a:File:X EN boxart.png]] [[a:File:Y EN boxart.png]]<br>can you stick these on--[[User:Pikachu Bros.|<span style="color:lightblue">Pikachu Bros.</span>]] <small>([[User talk:Pikachu Bros.|<span style="color:red">talk</span>]])</small> 18:32, 14 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Female player == <br />
We don't have ANY pictures of her official art, despite some pictures of her being on the official site. I was wondering why she isn't there, considering all of the new Pokemon, the region, a city, and more being added in. [[User:Poko907|Poko907]] ([[User talk:Poko907|talk]]) 21:09, 14 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
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The pictures on the official site ARE official art. [[User:MasterZ|MasterZ]] ([[User talk:MasterZ|talk]]) 20:58, 25 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Downloadable citation? ==<br />
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Where was it (first?) stated that X and Y will be downloadable titles from the eShop? Or is it just a rule now for 3DS games? --[[User:Johans|Johans]] ([[User talk:Johans|talk]]) 02:32, 15 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Found it in history: http://www.famitsu.com/news/201301/08026993.html Maybe this needs citation, though. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] ([[User talk:Johans|talk]]) 02:48, 15 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Disambiguation clarification ==<br />
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Shouldn't the article have some kind of introductory disambiguation statement situated somewhere at the article's beginning? Something like:<br />
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:''This article is about the game'' Pokémon X.'' For other referrals, see [[Pokémon X]].'' <br />
[[User:Fenyx4|Fenyx4]] ([[User talk:Fenyx4|talk]]) 20:36, 15 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
::There's no need. Searching [[Pokémon X]] already takes you to that page. There are no terms that redirect here that could be confused with other items on the disambiguation page. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 13:11, 20 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Character Designs ==<br />
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The news overload continues... According to the Official Pokémon X and Y website, when you choose your gender, you have 3 different character designs to choose from. You can also change your outfit later on. [[User:MasterZ|MasterZ]] ([[User talk:MasterZ|talk]]) 23:40, 15 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Opposite Player ==<br />
The PC you don't choose will appear sometime during the storyline, as shown in the trailer. Mystriously, she doesn't have her trademark hat. Maybe it's the same for the male PC, but we can't speculate on pages, so. {{Unsigned|Poko907}}<br />
:When in which video were the male and female players shown in the same screen? -[[User:IVsaur|<span style="color:lightbrown">EVs</span><small><span style="color:black">and</span></small><span style="color:green">IVsaurs</span>]] 17:33, 18 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
::[http://www.pokemonxy.com/_ui/img/_en/screenshots/may_supp_p3_5.jpg Here]. We're not adding it, though. We have zero information on the context of the scene and assuming that girl is opposite gender player character is pure speculation at this point. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 17:44, 18 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
OK. [[User:Poko907|Poko907]] ([[User talk:Poko907|talk]]) 01:00, 19 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Concept Art? Official? ==<br />
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[http://oyster.ignimgs.com/wordpress/stg.ign.com/2013/05/Lumiose-City-scene-illustration.jpg]<br />
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I found this on IGN's article on new stuff from XY, It said concept art, is this official, if so shouldn't it make its way to the image gallery?<br />
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Also sorry, I have no idea how to make it smaller so I just put it as a link. Other wise it would have stretched the page. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 09:42, 19 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
:I don't know if it would be classified as concept art, but it's real. It's used on the article for Lumiose City. --[[User:HoennMaster|<font color="blue">Hoenn</font>]][[User talk:HoennMaster|<font color="green">Master</font>]] 15:25, 19 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Ken Sugimori ==<br />
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I asked this on Helioptile's page as well, but no one answered, so here it goes:<br />
Whenever a new Pokemon is released, as is the case with the 4 new Pokemon recently released, we get official artwork from them. But how do we know definitely that the artwork is always by Sugimori? Of course, it is his art style, but that's not so hard to mimic for a professional... <br />
So how do we know? --[[User:Phoenixon|Phoenixon]] ([[User talk:Phoenixon|talk]]) 20:52, 30 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
:We know that Sugimori always draws the Pokemon, so until we're told otherwise, it's pretty safe to assume. In fact, I'm pretty sure others have drawn artwork for player characters, or other characters, and we've been told that. Of course, it might also say it somewhere, but I never look at the places where the artwork is revealed. --[[User:Funktastic~!|<span style="color:#009900">'''It's'''</span> <span style="color:#CC66FF">'''Funktastic~!'''</span>]][[User talk:Funktastic~!|<sub><small><span style="color:#99CCFF">''話してください''</span></small></sub>]] 21:33, 30 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Noivern, Vivillon, and Pokémon-Amie ==<br />
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Don't forget to add them. [[User:MasterZ|MasterZ]] ([[User talk:MasterZ|talk]]) 18:31, 11 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Korean release date confirmed ==<br />
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It'll be [http://pokemonxy.pokemonkorea.co.kr/product.html October 12th, 2013] like the rest of the world (that's a first!) ... I'd add it myself, if the page was unlocked. -- [[User:Nick15|Nick15]] ([[User talk:Nick15|talk]]) 03:06, 12 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Possible player names ==<br />
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From the official website: [http://www.pokemonxy.com/_ui/img/_en/screenshots/june_p1_02.jpg] However, I'm not sure if these are 100% a confirmation, as back when Black and White were coming out Hilbert and Hilda were shown as "Blair" and "Whitley" in some screenshots. Should we start calling XY's players Xavier and Yvonne or play it safe for now? [[User:Reign|Reign]] ([[User talk:Reign|talk]]) 07:07, 12 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
:It's the same exact thing as Blair and Whitlea. We're playing it safe for the moment. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 08:14, 12 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Righto then. On a related topic, apparently according to CoroCoro, their Japanese names are Callum (m) and Serena (f).[[User:Reign|Reign]] ([[User talk:Reign|talk]]) 00:57, 13 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::Callum and Serena are the names on the official site for the rivals. -[[User:IVsaur|<span style="color:lightbrown">EVs</span><small><span style="color:black">and</span></small><span style="color:green">IVsaurs</span>]] 13:35, 14 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::Should we change the names of the "Hero" and "Heroine" to Calem and Serena? - {{u|Rockettitan7}}, 12:36, 16 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
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==Versions...again==<br />
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So this was already talked about earlier and the official artwork seems to confirm there is no version in the title. However, Nintendo's [http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/library/events/130612/02.html E3 briefing] calls them X Version and Y Version. --[[User:HoennMaster|<font color="blue">Hoenn</font>]][[User talk:HoennMaster|<font color="green">Master</font>]] 03:22, 14 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
:I think we're going to have to assume that's a mistake for now. We have box art and there is no "Version" on them. On Pokémon.com [http://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-video-games/pokemon-black-version-and-pokemon-white-version/ all other games] say "Version" while [http://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-video-games/pokemon-x-and-pokemon-y/ X and Y] don't. I think the best source we have is the box art, so until we get box art with "Version" we should just consider the titles to not contain "Version". --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 10:21, 14 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Languages ==<br />
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Why has it not been added to the article that this is the first game to have all 7 languages in one cartridge? -[[User:IVsaur|<span style="color:lightbrown">EVs</span><small><span style="color:black">and</span></small><span style="color:green">IVsaurs</span>]] 12:09, 14 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== June CoroCoro Pokemon ==<br />
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I can't help but notice that the 4 pokemon shown in June CoroCoro ([[Litleo]], [[Flabebe]], [[Scatterbug]], and [[Spewpa]]) have not been added to the list of X and Y Pokemon. Is that an oversight, or are no more pokemon being added their because of lack of room? --[[User:Senoel99|Senoel99]] ([[User talk:Senoel99|talk]]) 17:26, 14 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Characters needs to be updated ==<br />
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Can someone change Hero and Heroine to Calum and Serena (also those pages need to be created, but anyway), and add Shauna, Tierno, Trevor, Alexa, and Viola as well. Thanks.<br />
[[User:CoolDudeAl|CoolDudeAl]] ([[User talk:CoolDudeAl|talk]]) 21:04, 14 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
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Calum and Serena are the names of the rivals and Calum is your rival when you choose the female character and Serena is your rival when you play as the male character. [[User:KennyMc0294|KennyMc0294]] ([[User talk:KennyMc0294|talk]]) 01:37, 15 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
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Calem and Serena are also the default names for the hero and heroine respectively. And yes, there should be Shauna, Tierno, etc. in the characters list. [[User:Functioning Blaziken|Functioning Blaziken]] ([[User talk:Functioning Blaziken|talk]]) 13:25, 10 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== The image for spewpa ==<br />
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The image of spewpa is cut from the corocoro leaks, The official artwork is alredy uploaded to BulbaNewsNOW's twitter I think you should replace it, I'll do it but I don't know how, I am new here. {{unsigned|SuckMyBlood}}<br />
:It usually takes some time before the new version of an image is correctly shown on every page the image is on. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ [[User:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Blazing</span>]]</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 23:32, 14 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Player default names? ==<br />
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Are the player's names Callum and Serena for the male and female respectively? I heard it somewhere, but I'm not sure. [[User:Functioning Blaziken|Functioning Blaziken]] ([[User talk:Functioning Blaziken|talk]]) 15:30, 16 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Calem and Serena, but yes, they are the official names. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 15:53, 16 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Mistake ==<br />
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I can't edit the article, but this sentence sounds wonky to me:<br />
"The Player Search System (PSS) is a multiplayer feature that always people to connect, battle, and trade with other players through the internet." [[User:Eevee-Girl|Eevee-Girl]] ([[User talk:Eevee-Girl|talk]]) 06:50, 17 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
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I think it's been changed to 'allows' now. [[User:Functioning Blaziken|Functioning Blaziken]] ([[User talk:Functioning Blaziken|talk]]) 13:21, 10 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== '''ヒトツキ''' ==<br />
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Shouldn't [[ヒトツキ]] (Hitotsuki [Monorpale]) be added to the new Pokémon section?--[[User:ShinyPatch|ShinyPatch]] ([[User talk:ShinyPatch|talk]]) 18:44, 4 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== spewpa art ==<br />
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someone '''really''' needs to try and reupload the spewpa art. It sticks out so painfully. [[User:0danmaster0|0danmaster0]] ([[User talk:0danmaster0|talk]]) 21:40, 5 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
:The file was updated with the official version of the artwork almost a month ago over on the Archives, but the thumbnail still hasn't synced for some reason. Regardless, the file itself is up-to-date. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 18:23, 11 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== version exclusives ==<br />
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since we now know of two pairs of version exclusives I think it is worth making a preliminary list. [[User:0danmaster0|0danmaster0]] ([[User talk:0danmaster0|talk]]) 16:06, 11 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Korean feature, etc, names ==<br />
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Because I don't have any other place to put these... I'll just place them here for posterity.<br />
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===Features of X&Y===<br />
* 무리배틀 ''{{tt|Muri|swarm}} {{tt|Baeteul|Battle}}'': Horde Encounters<br />
* 스카이배틀 ''{{tt|Seukai Baeteul|Sky Battle}}'': Sky Battles<br />
* 포켓파를레 ''Poket'pareulle'': Pokémon-Amie; based on its Japanese name PokéParler (ポケパルレ ''Pokeparure'')<br />
* The "Player Search System" (PSS) is specifically "PSS".<br />
:* 홀로캐스터 ''Hollokaeseuteo'': Holocaster feature<br />
:* 배틀스폿 ''Baeteul'seupot'': Battle Spot feature<br />
:* O파워 ''O-pawo'': O-Powers feature<br />
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===Names for new attacks include===<br />
* 문포스 ''Mun'poseu'': Sylpheon's attack "Moonblast"<br />
: It's just the transliteration of "Moon Force"<br />
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* 파라볼라차지 ''Parabolla'chaji'': Helioptile's attack "Parabolic Charge"<br />
: It's just the transliteration of "Parabola Charge"<br />
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* 니트로차지 ''Niteuro'chaji'': Fletchling's attack "[[Flame Charge]]"<br />
: It's just the transliteration of "Nitro Charge"<br />
:* But this isn't a new attack :X<br />
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* 막말내뱉기 ''Makmal'naebaetgi'': Pamcham's attack "Parting Shot"<br />
:* 막 ''mak'': "just" (as in, "I just got it for you!") or "act" (as in a play)<br />
:* 말 ''mal'': "language, speech"<br />
:: 막말 ''makmal'': also means "a blunt remark", "rude talk"<br />
:* 내뱉기 ''naebaetgi'': "spit", "hurl", "blurt" (specifically used with "words", like "the words just hurled out of their mouth")<br />
:: So "Rude talk spit".<br />
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* 우드호른 ''Udeu'horeun'': Gogoat's attack "[[Horn Leech]]"<br />
: It's just the transliteration of "Wood Horn"<br />
:* But this isn't a new attack :X<br />
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* 폭음파 ''Pok'eumpa'': Noivern's attack "Boomburst"<br />
:* 폭(爆) ''pok'': pop, burst, explode<br />
:* 음(音) ''eum'': sound<br />
:* 파(波) ''pa'': wave<br />
: So "Explosive Sound Wave".<br />
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.... I'll add more in a little bit. -- [[User:Nick15|Nick15]] ([[User talk:Nick15|talk]]) 02:32, 12 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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I just realized some of the attacks aren't new... so I've made note of those above, and will only post about the Korean names for the new ones below.<br />
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* 부르짖기 ''Bureujijgi'': Litleo's attack "Noble Roar"<br />
:* 부르 ''bureu'': to call out, hail, summon<br />
:* 짖 ''jij'': bark, howl, roar<br />
:: So "Hail Roar"<br />
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* 요정의바람 ''Yojeong'ui-baram'': Flabébé's attack "Fairy Wind"<br />
:* 요정 ''yojeong'': fairy, sprite (so, "fairy")<br />
:* 의 ''ui'': XXX's<br />
:* 바람 ''baram'': wind<br />
:: So "Fairy's Wind" or... "Fairy Wind".<br />
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....That's all I got for now. -- [[User:Nick15|Nick15]] ([[User talk:Nick15|talk]]) 17:49, 12 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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Here's Xerneas' and Yveltal's abilities and attacks in Korean:<br />
* Xerneas:<br />
:* 페어리오라 ''Pe'eori'ora'': Xerneas' ability "Fairy Aura"<br />
:* 지오컨트롤 ''Jiokeonteurol'': Xerneas' attack "Geomancy" (though it's "Geo Control" in Korean)<br />
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* Yveltal:<br />
:* 다크오라 ''Dakeu'ora'': Yveltal's ability "Dark Aura"<br />
:* 데스윙 ''Deseu'wing'': Yveltal's attack "Oblivion Wing" (though it's "Death Wing" in Korean) -- [[User:Nick15|Nick15]] ([[User talk:Nick15|talk]]) 03:01, 21 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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===Other bits===<br />
* Lass Anna's name is 이화 ''I'hwa''<br />
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-- [[User:Nick15|Nick15]] ([[User talk:Nick15|talk]]) 18:34, 12 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Artwork ==<br />
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Can someone please add the artwork of the five new Pokemon? Like, Inkay, Spritzee, etc.? [[User:Nutter Butter|Nutter Butter]] ([[User talk:Nutter Butter|talk]]) 19:04, 12 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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Uhhhhh it needs done again :P [[User:Nutter Butter|Nutter Butter]] ([[User talk:Nutter Butter|talk]]) 20:49, 10 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
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==Languages==<br />
Can someone please add the fact that all the localizations will have the same languages (mentioned [http://www.pokemonxy.com/en-us/news/news_languages_2.html here]), as it is a very notable change? [[User:TheOriginalOne|<span style="color:#9E0508">'''The'''</span>]][[User talk:TheOriginalOne|<span style="color:#5D9160">'''Original'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/TheOriginalOne|<span style="color:#60AFFE">'''One'''</span>]] 23:13, 12 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Character artwork ==<br />
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There have been many more characters revealed than the player characters so far, shouldn't their artwork be added to the page?[[User:Voltdetector|Voltdetector]] ([[User talk:Voltdetector|talk]]) 09:21, 13 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Mini sprites. ==<br />
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IT seems they've changed mini sprites. I've compared the one at evostone example, and it looks different from what we have. [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] ([[User talk:Marked +-+-+|talk]]) 09:29, 13 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Oorotto ==<br />
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Since [[Oorotto]] has been revealed now, shouldn't the article be created now? [[User:Pokebub|Pokebub]] ([[User talk:Pokebub|talk]]) 06:30, 31 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Hold your horses there, bucko. I'm sure it's being worked on in someone's userspace already. The admins keep track of the news and are well aware of when things are revealed; there's no need to prod at talk pages. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 07:04, 31 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Do all the Pokémon need to be shown? ==<br />
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There are quite a few Pokémon now, surely we don't have to see artwork for them all. Maybe just Froakie, Chespin and Fennekin. [[Emboar|<span style="color:#AB0047;">This</span>]] [[Butch|<span style="color:#AB0047;">is</span>]] [[Cassidy|<span style="color:#AB0047;">Mkbw50</span>]] [[Ritchie|<span style="color:#AB0047;">signing</span>]] [[User:Mkbw50|<span style="color:#AB0047;">off</span>]] 08:52, 5 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== MegaEvolutions ==<br />
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Shouldn't there be a section on Mega Evolutions. It might be a little too soon and not enough information on them yet because they just got comfirmed, but maybe at least mentioning them now and adding on later.[[User:Spiknoway84|Spiknoway84]] ([[User talk:Spiknoway84|talk]]) 03:12, 9 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Super Training ==<br />
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Shouldn't somebody add a section on Super Training? There's a section on Mega Evolution, and Super Training was revealed the same day. [[User:Functioning Blaziken|Functioning Blaziken]] ([[User talk:Functioning Blaziken|talk]]) 13:16, 10 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== New Pokémon ==<br />
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The artwork for the new Pokémon revealed yesterday- Dedenne, Bunnelby and Skiddo- is missing. [[User:Functioning Blaziken|Functioning Blaziken]] ([[User talk:Functioning Blaziken|talk]]) 13:20, 10 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Missing Appearances ==<br />
I've noticed that many of the new Pokemon are missing their "Physiology" descriptions, when it should be easy to write once you know what they look like shouldn't it? [[User:Ziggyangelo88|Ziggyangelo88]] ([[User talk:Ziggyangelo88|talk]]) 19:10, 10 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Character artwork ==<br />
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There have been new characters revealed, such as Gym leaders like Viola, Citron and Korrina and other characters like Professor Platane, your rivals and Team Flare, shouldn't they be added to the new characters section? [[User:Voltdetector|Voltdetector]] ([[User talk:Voltdetector|talk]])<br />
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== Fairy type info update ==<br />
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It is now known that {{t|Fire}} resists Fairy, so that will need to be included. [[User:Berrenta|Berrenta]] ([[User talk:Berrenta|talk]]) 17:29, 17 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Additional Demo Info ==<br />
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Tierno is seen walking around, there is a second maze area where you can interact with a Litleo, and Flabébé are seen in the flowers. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P83GIhzxKq0 Source] --[[User:HoennMaster|<font color="blue">Hoenn</font>]][[User talk:HoennMaster|<font color="green">Master</font>]] 18:43, 21 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== pika ==<br />
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Am i the only one who who heard pikachu go "pika pika" when it fainted in the demo instead of its normal cry?[[User:Deoxys80|Deoxys80]] ([[User talk:Deoxys80|talk]]) 20:48, 21 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Mewtwo's and Crobat's cries have been remastered to sound more like modern Pokémon, and Pikachu's has been replaced with its anime voice. I suspect it hasn't been added to the page because we want to wait to see exactly how thorough the changes are, to avoid spreading misinformation. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 21:26, 21 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Demo ==<br />
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The Pokémon that can be found in the demo are: Pikachu, Bunnelby, Litleo, Exeggutor, Skitty and Flabebe. Also, all of them can be found in both grass and flowers. Please update. --[[User:Caciulacdlac|Caciulacdlac]] ([[User talk:Caciulacdlac|talk]]) 13:37, 31 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
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==Features update==<br />
Pokémon Bank, please. [[User:TheOriginalOne|<span style="color:red">'''オリ'''</span>]][[User talk:TheOriginalOne|<span style="color:green">'''ジ'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/TheOriginalOne|<span style="color:blue">'''ナル'''</span>]] <small>TheOriginalOne</small> 16:38, 4 September 2013 (UTC)<br />
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==Should the Korean box art be under the Japanese box art?==<br />
Since both the Japanese and Korean box art for Pokémon X and Y have two different writing systems (which is the main difference not only between each other but also the box art of the Americas and Europe) should it also be included not only in this article as well as the other games that also have Korean box art? [[User:sion8|sion8]] ([[User talk:sion8|talk]]) 20:38, 9 September 2013 (UTC)<br />
:As far as I'm aware, the only box art shown prominently on pages are the Japanese, since it's the original language, and the English language box art. --[[User:Funktastic~!|<span style="color:#009900">'''It's'''</span> <span style="color:#CC66FF">'''Funktastic~!'''</span>]][[User talk:Funktastic~!|<sub><small><span style="color:#99CCFF">''話してください''</span></small></sub>]] 21:37, 9 September 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Well that is true, which is why I would like the box art of the Korean versions that have been created such as the original Pokémon Gold and Silver as well as all the generation IV and V games that have Korean box art to also be part of the respective games' articles in the same way the Japanese box art is hidden until one clicks for it to be shown. [[User:sion8|sion8]] ([[User talk:sion8|talk]]) 12:14, 10 September 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::We include the English-language box art because we are an English-language wiki and we include the Japanese box art because it is the original. If we included any others, we would have to include all of them, which would be quite unwieldy (even with a [show]/[hide] box). I'm not opposed to giving each game page a subpage that would show the box art from every international version, but I really think we don't need any more on the main articles. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 14:29, 10 September 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== US Gamestops to give exclusive Timeline away with preorder! ==<br />
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I just went to my local Gamestop (to obtain the Shiny Palkia of course) and found out anyone who has preordered ''Pokémon X'' and ''Y'' will receive an exclusive Timeline consisting of the covers to all the US release of the Pokémon version games from 1998 to ''X'' and ''Y''. [[User:FanOfCountry|FanOfCountry]] ([[User talk:FanOfCountry|talk]]) 17:34, 11 September 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Here is the information from the [http://www.gamestop.com/collection/pokemon-x-and-y Gamestop website]. [[User:FanOfCountry|FanOfCountry]] ([[User talk:FanOfCountry|talk]]) 17:37, 11 September 2013 (UTC)<br />
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==Fairy type==<br />
The info for the Fairy type needs to be updated on this article since we now know what it's strong and weak against. It's super effective against Dragon, Fighting and Dark. Fire, Poison and Steel resist the Fairy type and Fairy immune to Dragon. [[User:Poke&#39;fan07|Poke&#39;fan07]] ([[User talk:Poke&#39;fan07|talk]]) 02:17, 16 September 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== 09/17 Japanese eShop trailer (evening, clothing customization, radical ledge revolution) ==<br />
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The [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TotwurUNRdI&feature=youtu.be&t=2m47s Japanese eShop trailer] has revealed the following! I apologize if any of this is old information -- I have trouble keeping everything straight.<br />
*The trainer's hand is visible when catching a Pokémon. Pokémon don't have any special animations for the capture sequence.<br />
*[[Houndour]] horde.<br />
*When Mega Evolving a Pokémon, their (possibly updated) stats and health bar will reappear before the process is over. The Mega-evolved Pokémon will be listed under its normal name, with a Mega Stone icon next to its level.<br />
*Battles and trades through the [[Player Search System]] take place in a holographic-style environment.<br />
*Evening is present in the game. You can see the sun setting behind the [[Tower of Mastery]].<br />
*Clothing customization seems straightforward. When accessing the clothing customization screen, the player can select "Hats" (Head accessories?), "Tops," "Pants" (bottoms?), "Dresses" (full-body outfits?), "Socks," "Shoes," "Bags" (large accessories?), and "Glasses" (small accessories?). (Note: these are just my guesses based on the menu icons.) The trailer shows the player selecting the "Tops" menu, then browsing through different colors of a "Mini-length Parka." The trailer shows red, pink, green, and another unknown color for the parka. Different clothing styles may result in different visual effects when exiting the customization menu: a "sporty" female trainer is surrounded by brightly-colored lines, while a more "feminine" female trainer is surrounded by pink flowers. Customized clothing shows up on the avatar while they're running around in the overworld. <br />
*A Team Flare grunt states that Team Flare's objective is only its own members' happiness. <br />
*When riding a Pokémon (in this case, Skiddo), the player can '''jump up ledges'''. We are surely in a new generation.<br />
The trailer also showed some new scenery: a pier lined with small motor boats, a grassy path with a holographic (news?) screen and a pair of [[Twins]] (?), and a long, arched hallway with chandeliers opening up onto a courtyard. [[User:Arpha|<span style="color:#94C953">A</span><span style="color:#A2D663">r</span><span style="color:#ACDE6F">p</span><span style="color:#B8E87D">h</span><span style="color:#C4F28D">a</span>]] ([[User talk:Arpha|talk]]) 02:36, 18 September 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Fossil Evo pics ==<br />
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Seeing that there has been a few [[Tyrantrum (Pokémon)|more]] [[Aurorus (Pokémon)|pictures]] revealed, I'm guessing you guys are going to stop adding new Pokémon pictures as they are revealed now? Would make sense as the release date is coming closer and soon this page will have to be like {{g|Black and White}}. ----[[User:NateVirus|<span style="color:blue">NateVirus</span>]]<small>''([[User talk:NateVirus|<span style="color:green">Talk</span>]]''|''[[Special:Contributions/NateVirus|<span style="color:red">Contributions</span>]]''</small>) 23:24, 23 September 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Sprites? ==<br />
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Now that the editing ban is gone, how are we going to add the in game sprites to all the Pokemon's pages? --[[User:Cj1227|<span style="color:Blue">Cj1227</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:Cj1227|<span style="color:red">Need Something?</span>]])''</small> 18:32, 25 October 2013 (UTC)<br />
:I think the Pokédex sprites could be a good starting point. If someone can, in-battle sprites could also be good. Anyway, I agree that those artworks should be replaced with actual sprites. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 18:45, 25 October 2013 (UTC) PS. Somebody should remove the editing ban on Bulbagarden Archives as well so that this would be possible. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 18:48, 25 October 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== What are my pokemon doing? ==<br />
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--[[User:Darkmaster|Darkmaster]] ([[User talk:Darkmaster|talk]]) 02:42, 31 October 2013 (UTC)Lately I have been noticing that when I enter a battle, my pokemon shakes a bit. It occasionally also gives me messages like Yveltal looks a little excited, or Furfrou is a little nervous. Can anyone explain what it means?<br />
:Your pokemon has some hearts on the affection meter, which results from playing pokemon-amie--[[User:BigBadBatter|BigBadBatter]] ([[User talk:BigBadBatter|talk]]) 04:11, 6 November 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Friend Safari and version exclusives ==<br />
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I've seen that a recent edit has deleted some of the version exclusives because they can caught in friend safari in any version. Should it be reverted? --[[User:el shendee|el shendee]] ([[User talk:el shendee|talk]]) 9:35, 25 November 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Plot? ==<br />
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Could somebody please add the plot to Pokémon X and Y, like how it is with the other main series pages on Bulbapedia? Thanks! [[User:Zorocario|Zorocario]] ([[User talk:Zorocario|talk]]) 16:32, 21 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Double negative ==<br />
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In the beginning of page, it says: "The '''non'''-Japanese versions are so far the only ones '''not''' to have the term Version in its name."<br />
Wouldn't it be easier to remove the double negative here, as in: "The Japanese versions are so far the only ones to have the term Version in its name."<br />
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== Titles missing "Version"? ==<br />
Do the titles include "version" this time? I'm not seeing it on the official site or the trailer. I think they're just called Pokemon X and Pokemon Y now. [[User:Hheebo|Hheebo]] ([[User talk:Hheebo|talk]]) 14:17, 8 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Pokémon X and Y "Versions"? ==<br />
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Is it right to be calling them Pokemon X Version and Pokemon Y version? Unlike previous games Nintendo hasn't used the word "version" when referring to them by name, just calling them Pokemon X and Pokemon Y rather than, to use the most recent example, "Pokemon Black Version 2" and "Pokemon White Version 2". The logos don't contain the word "version" either. I think they should simply be referred to as Pokemon X and Y.<br />
EDIT: Ninja'd by Hheebo. Delete if necessary.<br />
[[User:NFreak007|NFreak007]] ([[User talk:NFreak007|talk]]) 14:19, 8 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:I second this. "Versions" hasn't been mentioned at all, nor are contained in the logos. If "Versions" were in the title, there's usually a habit of saying it every time the game title comes up. It's misleading to list the article as it being called "X and Y ''Versions''" if there really isn't any facts backing that up. --[[User:Manaphy1|Manaphy1]] 16:20, 8 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Thirded. It should be [[Pokémon X and Y]], as I stated on [[Pokémon Black and White Versions 2]]'s trivia section. Please rename this page and change this article and the Generation VI one accordingly. [[User:Digifiend|Digifiend]] ([[User talk:Digifiend|talk]]) 17:15, 8 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::Fourthed. Every other main series entry has had "version" on it, this is different in all languages. This should be reflected in the title of the page. {{unsigned|NP Chilla}}<br />
::::[http://www.thesixthaxis.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/PokemonXY8-1024x640.jpg Here]. Enjoy. [[User:Masatoshi|<span style="color: #224a9a"><b><span style="color: #2b5fc7">M</span>asatoshi</b></span>]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|<span style="color: #118eb2"><sub><small>''talk''</small></sub></span>]] 18:00, 8 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::::That seems to be a screenshot from Nintendo3DS's video. The official Pokémon channel uploaded the same trailer, and they don't use the word Version, and they're strict with that word, putting it in all Black Version 1 and White Version 1 videos. <span style="font-family:AR DARLING; font-size:12pt">[[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="maroon">'''Ultimatum'''</font>]]</span> 19:31, 8 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::::The same video is also on Pokemon.com, without the word "Version." I fifth the notion that it should be struck from here, because it doesn't appear to be in any official media. --[[User:The Great Butler|The Great Butler]] ([[User talk:The Great Butler|talk]]) 02:40, 9 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::::::I think it would be a good idea to move it to [[Pokémon X and Y]], 'cause it doesn't even say the name "version" in the title. In previous games, the official sources have said "Pokémon [title] Version" only if it has the word "version in the logo. These games are different, they don't have "version" in the title at all, so I really wouldn't see any reason to have it titled "Pokémon X and Y Versions".—[[User:Platinum Lucario|Platinum Lucario]] ([[User talk:Platinum Lucario|talk]]) 10:29, 9 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::::::I would like to agree with the page move as well, but I really can't say until there is more usage of just "Pokemon X and Y" an not "Pokemon X version and Pokemon Y version". I am undecided since I've seen Pokémon Direct recordings with the word "version" in it (like in the picture posted by Masatoshi), but everything else points to just calling it [[Pokémon X and Y]]. - <span style="background:#96EAFF;border: 1px solid#0000FF">''[[User:Vhayes1992|<b style="color:#FF0000">Vhayes</b>]]<small><sup style="color:#00027F">1992</sup></small>''</span> 23:38, 9 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:The official press release repeatedly lists the trademarked titles as ''Pokémon X'' and ''Pokémon Y'' and never uses the term "Version." Excerpt: "''Pokémon X'' and ''Pokémon Y'' will be the blueprint for an exciting array of new animation, Pokémon TCG, and toys debuting around the world."<br />
:In all of their press releases for other games in the series they use "Version," for example this excerpt from the B2W2 press release: "The successors to the acclaimed ''Pokémon Black Version'' and ''Pokémon White Version'' games, ''Pokémon Black Version 2'' and ''Pokémon White Version 2''..."<br />
:So it seems pretty obvious that it should be moved to "Pokémon X and Y."[[User:AmaranthSparrow|AmaranthSparrow]] ([[User talk:AmaranthSparrow|talk]]) 21:40, 9 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Heck, even Pokémon.com reads "''An all-new 3D Pokémon adventure packed with never-before-seen Pokémon will launch worldwide in October 2013. '''Pokémon X''' and '''Pokémon Y''' will present a new generation of Pokémon, and introduce players to an exciting new adventure in a breathtaking 3D world.''" Could an admin PLEASE hurry up and move the name of this page? <span style="font-family:Estrangelo Edessa; font-size:12pt">[[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="maroon">'''Ultimatum'''</font>]]</span> 23:25, 9 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::By moving the page, not only would {{template|v}}, {{template|2v}}, {{template|2v2}}, and {{template|game}} have to be edited (besides the fact that they are all massively used) but [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Special:WhatLinksHere/Pok%C3%A9mon_X_and_Y_Versions&limit=500 every single page] that links here would also have to be edited. There's also {{template|PokémonInfobox}}, which is only used on '''over 650 pages'''. Templates on the Archives would also have to be changed. <!--Unless you want the unprofessional redirect sign appearing all the time.-->--[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 23:44, 9 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::I'm against moving this page, at the very least until further information is available. "Version" is part of what separates the main series for games like Stadium, XD, and the like. Furthermore, there is at least some evidence that these games are still titled "X Version" and "Y Version" as seen in the picture Masa posted. It seems to me like the company is merely advertising the game in this manner because this is how the fandom always refers to the games, that is, without the word "version". Furthermore, this is probably simpler since it saves them the trouble of having to write "version" in several different languages all at once (remember, this is getting an instant worldwide release, and "Pokemon" is pretty universal while "version" isn't). We should at least wait a while before moving the page, and then having to move it back again. [[User:Crystal Talian|<span style="color:#9F00C5">Crystal</span>]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|<span style="color:#FF00FF">Talian</span>]] 23:49, 9 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::::Just to clarify, Masatoshi's image wasn't official; the official trailer doesn't have that banner on it, nor refers to them at all as having "Versions". As for the templates, they don't appear hard to edit in a change if you use "if switches". --[[User:Manaphy1|Manaphy1]] 00:53, 10 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::::Just to clarify, "#if:" switches work differently than "#switch:"es. Don't worry though, it'll only cause the servers to fail like when {{template|roundy}} used them.--[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 01:08, 10 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::::His image was official. [http://www.nintendo.nl/Divers/Nintendo-Direct/Laatstse-Nintendo-Direct/Nintendo-Direct-698557.html This] is official straight from Nintendo's website. It says "version". This is why I am sort of reserving a conclusion and doing a wait and see. - <span style="background:#96EAFF;border: 1px solid#0000FF">''[[User:Vhayes1992|<b style="color:#FF0000">Vhayes</b>]]<small><sup style="color:#00027F">1992</sup></small>''</span> 02:16, 10 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Where? From what I can see, it calls them Polémon X (lol, presumably a typo) and Pokémon Y. [[User:Digifiend|Digifiend]] ([[User talk:Digifiend|talk]]) 03:48, 10 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
::'''The video.''' --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 03:49, 10 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::Seems more likely to be some sort of mistake, given that the other videos don't feature that and the press release specifically omits the word. Anyway, I have contacted Nintendo regarding the title of the games, and will wait to see what they have to say about it. --[[User:Dorsal Axe|Dorsal Axe]] ([[User talk:Dorsal Axe|talk]]) 17:14, 10 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::[http://www.nintendo.co.uk/Misc-/Nintendo-Direct/2013/Pokemon-Direct-08-01-2013/Nintendo-Direct-699626.html What about the Nintendo's UK website?] --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 21:46, 10 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::::All of the official Nintendo websites, including even the Pokémon website clearly state it as '''Pokémon X''' and '''Pokémon Y'''. There is '''no''' official Nintendo website that calls them "Pokémon X Version" and "Pokémon Y Version".—[[User:Platinum Lucario|Platinum Lucario]] ([[User talk:Platinum Lucario|talk]]) 08:19, 11 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::::The point is that in the official Pokémon Direct announcement it is present. Every other main series game has it, and in the official announcement (which is on official Nintendo websites) it uses it. Until we get boxart, we should follow what we have been given. It is very commonplace to drop "version" when talking about the titles (Iwata did it himself in the Pokémon Direct video, while "version" was shown on the screen). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 08:38, 11 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Okay, [http://i.imgur.com/9ANSo.png Nintendo got back to me]. According to them, it's just "Pokémon X" and "Pokémon Y", and they go on to mention that whatever the website says is the "current" and most up-to-date official source. (and I must say, I'm impressed with how quickly they responded :p). --[[User:Dorsal Axe|Dorsal Axe]] ([[User talk:Dorsal Axe|talk]]) 13:36, 11 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Then they forgot to remove the Version thing in the video. This seems solid enough for us. We would be moving this page to '''[[Pokémon X and Y]]''' and doing all necessary changes soon (not before letting the rest of the staff know). [[User:Masatoshi|<span style="color: #224a9a"><b><span style="color: #2b5fc7">M</span>asatoshi</b></span>]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|<span style="color: #118eb2"><sub><small>''talk''</small></sub></span>]] 14:32, 11 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::Upon further discussion, we decided to put the moving on hold until we make sure of some stuff related to TPCi. It's still strange that after 15 years, they decide to drop "Version" just like that. [[User:Masatoshi|<span style="color: #224a9a"><b><span style="color: #2b5fc7">M</span>asatoshi</b></span>]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|<span style="color: #118eb2"><sub><small>''talk''</small></sub></span>]] 16:49, 11 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::Aww, can't you please move the page already? It's already been confirmed by Nintendo that it's called simply '''Pokémon X''' and '''Pokémon Y''', it even says that in the official '''logos''' of the trailer and official website of http://www.pokemon.com/pokemonxy/en-us/ that it's only called Pokémon X and Pokémon Y. What do you think? Do you really think it's going to change just to the way you think it's going to be? I'm afraid you're just not used to change, and I understand it takes us a while to adapt to change. ^^—[[User:Platinum Lucario|Platinum Lucario]] ([[User talk:Platinum Lucario|talk]]) 04:38, 15 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::::It has nothing to do with being afraid of change. We needed to be absolutely sure, which is why they've put it off so far. '''[[Team Rocket|<small><span style="color: #550000;">R.A.</span></small>]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Hunter</font></small>]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Blade</font></small>]]''' 05:22, 15 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::::I'm sure we have had plenty of proof that it is simply Pokémon X and Pokémon Y, having known that http://www.pokemon.com/pokemonxy/en-us/ is an '''official source''' that comes from the '''official''' Pokémon website. That website alone is enough to make you absolutely sure that it really is '''official'''. ;) —[[User:Platinum Lucario|Platinum Lucario]] ([[User talk:Platinum Lucario|talk]]) 14:47, 17 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
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==New region==<br />
In this article it states that the new region is likely based off of France but the [[Generation VI]] page says it draws inspiration from various points within Europe. The pages should be more consistent and more neutral about the subject. [[User: Ariano|Արիանո]] 14:50, 8 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
* The Nintendo Direct Trailer begins with Pikachu atop the Eiffel Tower. Unova draws from inspirations outside of the strict real world New York; it's not conflicting to say it's both based on France and draws inspiration from the rest of Europe. <br />
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== Trivia to be added, I believe... ==<br />
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A bit of trivia to be added:<br />
*These are the first main series games to have letters in the title rather than color names.<br />
*The game titles may be named after the X and Y axes of the [[wp:Cartesian coordinate system|Cartesian coordinations]]. ~~<font face="Verdana">'''''[[User:LDEJRuff|LDE]][[User talk:LDEJRuff|JRuff]]'''''</font>~~ 10:04, 8 January, 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Given that the Japanese logos clearly have DNA helixes in them, I think it's safe to say that they were going for genetics. Not coordinates. <sup>[[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup>[[User:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">Jo the Marten</span>]]<sup>[[Flygon (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup> [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">ಠ_ಠ</span>]][[Cilan (anime)|<span style="color:#90C870;">♥</span>]] 15:10, 8 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Why not both? --[[User:Dorsal Axe|Dorsal Axe]] ([[User talk:Dorsal Axe|talk]]) 15:23, 8 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::Because the Japanese logos have DNA helixes in them so they are standing for genetics, not coordinates. It was made pretty clear by Jo. [[User:Rainbow Shifter|Rainbow Shifter]] ([[User talk:Rainbow Shifter|talk]]) 17:09, 8 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
They're obviously named after the x and y chromosomes, not coordinates. [[User:Munlax|Munlax]] ([[User talk:Munlax|talk]]) 17:14, 8 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::Could it not be a double meaning? [[User:Digifiend|Digifiend]] ([[User talk:Digifiend|talk]]) 17:16, 8 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::::And what makes you think it's coordinates? For all I know, we could also use algebraic expressions. So far, Jo's bet is the safest. Since it has helixes that resemble a DNA string, it's unlikely to have been based in coordinates. [[User:Masatoshi|<span style="color: #224a9a"><b><span style="color: #2b5fc7">M</span>asatoshi</b></span>]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|<span style="color: #118eb2"><sub><small>''talk''</small></sub></span>]] 17:19, 8 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::::It's obviously based on Genetics, but Gamefreak and Nintendo love puns. X axis and Y axis. If the third legendary forms a Z shape, then I think it's safe to say that it's also partially a stealth 3DS pun --[[User:Shadowater|Shadowater]] ([[User talk:Shadowater|talk]]) 20:26, 8 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Why would it be based off coordinates anyway? It makes more sense to have them based off genetics seeming as you breed Pokemon in the game. And no, it has been said numerous times: The Japanese logos have '''DNA''' helixes in them. End of story. [[User:Rainbow Shifter|Rainbow Shifter]] ([[User talk:Rainbow Shifter|talk]]) 17:23, 8 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::That doesn't really discount the other reasoning. You may notice the logo is also in 3D text (which they've never done for a logo before), which would indicate to me that they're going for a double entendre with the titles. --[[User:Dorsal Axe|Dorsal Axe]] ([[User talk:Dorsal Axe|talk]]) 17:41, 8 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::::::I thought it was to do with the buttons on the DS and 3DS consoles, shows what I know...[[User:TurtleLover1999|TurtleLover1999]] ([[User talk:TurtleLover1999|talk]]) 20:31, 8 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
More trivia for your perusal: They'll be the first main series games to be released simultaneously worldwide, and "Pokemon X" was the original name for both Lugia and Pokemon Crystal. '''<span style="color:#00AB47;">[[User:Luigi-San|Luigi-San]]</span>''' 22:10, 8 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::::::I agree about the released simultaneously worldwide as I was planning to suggest that myself. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] ([[User talk:Tyler53841|talk]]) 02:13, 9 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::::I don't think that the genetic base is so obvious, that thing in the logo can mean a lot of things. Also the coordinates reasoning in the first 3-'''dimentional''' game on a '''3D'''S is supported by the fact that Yveltal is flying while Xerneas is on the ground, like the axes. Can't be a coincidence. However save this geneticVSgeometic debate til we know if there is any Z Pokemon. It would kill the genetic theory and support the coordinates one. --[[User:Tano|Tano]] ([[User talk:Tano|talk]]) 20:22, 12 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::::::The fact that one flies and the other one roams the land does not mean they are based in coordinates or spacial axes, it CAN be a coincidence. The DNA string is heavily implied in the Japanese logo and supports the theory, while the axial theory only has a "What if the third version is Z?" as its support, and the fact that Xerneas runs horizontally (Even diagonally when it jumps!) and Yveltal flies (although horizontally, vertically, diagonally, you name it). [[User:Masatoshi|<span style="color: #224a9a"><b><span style="color: #2b5fc7">M</span>asatoshi</b></span>]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|<span style="color: #118eb2"><sub><small>''talk''</small></sub></span>]] 20:35, 12 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::::::They would have been pretty stupid if they made them able to move only horizontally or vertically, and unable to jump. What kind of argument is that? The point is that the X axis on a graph goes across, the Y axis goes up, and is the Y Pokemon that flies, while the X pokemon is on the ground, not the opposite. However, ''as I said'', we should wait. I'm not saying that the coordinates theory is the right one (well, that's my intuition), but I don't think you have any proof to say for sure that they're related to chromosomes either, except a small low definition detail on the logo that could be anything. I can totally see a Z pokemon related to stereo3D coming. It's almost impossible that they'll do nothing to use the 3D function of the console. —[[User:Tano|Tano]] ([[User talk:Tano|talk]]) 21:14, 12 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
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==Based off France?==<br />
To suggest the region will 'likely' be based on France seems to be speculation of the sort that the banner of the top forbids, Tokyo also has a structure like the Eiffel Tower. [[User:Alexsau1991|Alexsau1991]] ([[User talk:Alexsau1991|talk]]) 17:12, 8 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:The streets have an European-like setting; Pikachu spread his message from a location that seemed to be the same as France; that tower looks like the Eiffel Tower and it seems to use gray instead of white and red. While it's not confirmed, it is plausible that the region might be based in France. [[User:Masatoshi|<span style="color: #224a9a"><b><span style="color: #2b5fc7">M</span>asatoshi</b></span>]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|<span style="color: #118eb2"><sub><small>''talk''</small></sub></span>]] 17:18, 8 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
::While it seems plausible, even likely. Isn't it still speculation? And why the entire region, rather than that particular city (I don't recall France having a desert, for example)? Castelia City in Black and White is said to be based off New York, yet the entire region isn't said to be based on the USA. [[User:Alexsau1991|Alexsau1991]] ([[User talk:Alexsau1991|talk]]) 17:23, 8 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::There's a big difference between the USA and France, the US is a massive country (in terms of size and little would be explored, if not ignoring plenty of cities). I for one think it ''may'' be based in Europe, but that city, along with that picture with the bridge remind me of the {{wp|Palace of Versailles}}. Most people seem to agree it might be based in Europe/France, so for the time being, we'll leave it like this. [[User:Masatoshi|<span style="color: #224a9a"><b><span style="color: #2b5fc7">M</span>asatoshi</b></span>]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|<span style="color: #118eb2"><sub><small>''talk''</small></sub></span>]] 17:50, 8 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Pikachu's pretty clearly shown on the Eiffel Tower, in a country in the general location that everyone expects France to be. --[[User:Dorsal Axe|Dorsal Axe]] ([[User talk:Dorsal Axe|talk]]) 18:05, 8 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::Regardless it is very blatant '''speculation''', of which this encyclopaedia has clearly warned it's editors of avoiding. Popular agreement is '''NOT''' ''"confirmation by a reliable source"''. What's the point in that rule, if your so keen on breaking it? [[User:Alexsau1991|Alexsau1991]] ([[User talk:Alexsau1991|talk]]) 18:41, 8 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::Yeah, I do agree that it's speculation right now. It's like when everybody put Kyurem as the third member of the Tao trio before it was confirmed, despite them arguing tooth and nail and out right refusing to allow Giratina to be stated as the third member of the Dragon trio before Platinum came out [[User:Shadowater|Shadowater]] ([[User talk:Shadowater|talk]]) 20:28, 8 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::::Exactly. It's really inconsistent. As an admin, it seems as if Masatoshi is going for a 'do as I say, not as I do'. You can't rule 'no speculation', then allow a piece that you favour, or personally find convincing. <br />
:::::Even if the Eiffel Tower could be considered more than speculation, how do we arrive at the fact the WHOLE region is based on France?.. It's conjecture after conjecture... [[User:Alexsau1991|Alexsau1991]] ([[User talk:Alexsau1991|talk]]) 01:04, 9 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::::In the trailer, Pikachu is seen on top of the Eiffel Tower. Literally. The camera zooms out and shows it in France. Saying the region is based on France is less of speculation, and more of an observation giving readers some idea what the region looks like. Rather than explaining every tiny little detail about the location, we can just blanket sweep it by saying, "It looks a lot like France." But obviously it's NOT France, cause Pokémon regions have almost never been real locations. (Sans Kanto. Kind of.) <sup>[[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup>[[User:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">Jo the Marten</span>]]<sup>[[Flygon (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup> [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">ಠ_ಠ</span>]][[Cilan (anime)|<span style="color:#90C870;">♥</span>]] 01:31, 9 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::::::I think it would be a good idea to forbid this from being posted for now until more conclusive proof is gathered by any means from official sources to verify this though it would be a very slim chance that any of this is true. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] ([[User talk:Tyler53841|talk]]) 02:16, 9 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::::::I should also point out that Junichi Masuda's current Twitter profile picture is him next to the Eiffel Tower and there is at least one message commenting on his trip to France. Possibly a coincidence, though it's hardly an argument against the region being based off France. - [[User:Blazios|<span style="color:navy">Blazios</span>]] [[User Talk:Blazios|<span style="color:limegreen"><sub>talk</sub></span>]] 02:23, 9 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::Texas has an Eiffel Tower. Japan has a Statue of Liberty too, but Japan isn't the first place you think of when you think of the Statue of Liberty, is it? Then don't even get me started on Las Vegas. Pikachu is in the real life France in the intro, the girl's attire seems very French to me personally, the Pokémon team went to France for "work related reasons". I don't really see anything pointing it away from France, and I'm done having this discussion. There are more important things to worry about. <sup>[[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup>[[User:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">Jo the Marten</span>]]<sup>[[Flygon (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup> [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">ಠ_ಠ</span>]][[Cilan (anime)|<span style="color:#90C870;">♥</span>]] 02:53, 9 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::huh. didn't know france had a desert. that city is obviously based on paris, but i have doubts on the entire region being based on france alone. just my 2cents, i could be wrong, but hey, speculation is speculation ;) [[User:Tarilaan|Tarilaan]] ([[User talk:Tarilaan|talk]]) 11:37, 9 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::::Pretty sure there's not a desert full of ancient ruins or mountain ranges in New York City, either, yet they're both in Unova. The game COULD be based in all of Europe, but so far we've only seen evidence of France. Saying the game "seems to be based on France" doesn't exclude the possibility of it also being based on other areas as well, in any case. --[[User:ACDragonMaster|ACDragonMaster]] ([[User talk:ACDragonMaster|talk]]) 02:54, 10 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Europe is the safest assumption til the game is released and we can tell for sure if it's France or more. No reason to rush guys, we don't have enough information. Even if all we have seen is from France (it's not), it still doesn't mean that there won't be any Pisa Tower or Berlin Wall or Roman Coliseum (that I'd very much like) in another footage. --[[User:Tano|Tano]] ([[User talk:Tano|talk]]) 20:25, 12 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Also the 2 legendaries "Xcalibur" and "Yvern" have a great European feeling more then French. –[[User:Tano|Tano]] ([[User talk:Tano|talk]]) 21:16, 12 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Exactly, we don't have enough information, so why should we jump to "it seems to be based on Europe" from the get-go? If anything, all evidence points to France (Eiffel tower, Versailles, Pikachu's location, Masuda's trip, etc.) It's still speculation, however, one way or the other.[[User:Gacs|Gacs]] ([[User talk:Gacs|talk]]) 08:02, 13 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::France is in Europe. I think it's a safe assumption. —[[User:Tano|Tano]] ([[User talk:Tano|talk]]) 10:17, 13 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::The page says Europe. I am putting an end to this discussion on Bulbapedia. If you wish to speculate more on the subject, take it to [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/f693/ the forums]. Subsequent messages will be removed, and blocks may be handed out. <sup>[[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup>[[User:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">Jo the Marten</span>]]<sup>[[Flygon (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup> [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">ಠ_ಠ</span>]][[Cilan (anime)|<span style="color:#90C870;">♥</span>]] 10:50, 13 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
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Masuda himself said in a Q&A at E3 that the region is based off of France. [[User:KennyMc0294|KennyMc0294]] ([[User talk:KennyMc0294|talk]]) 0145, 16 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Region is based in France ==<br />
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Besides the obvious Eiffel Tower reference, I found out that the buildings shown are reminiscent of Paris's type (which was forced as an official style there) and additionally, the place Pikachu is giving the conference is Paris.<br />
I'm including the picture for future reference.<br />
[http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/large/714858374.png?key=25601440&Expires=1357683885&Key-Pair-Id=APKAIYVGSUJFNRFZBBTA&Signature=cMmYD40-9pvM7rc2~DneFwveDyESiYlke9L7VLrKMgbxx17yzOX7SfaL0oLKZUA~kRH4KcIMGYHdMDnfQ35-hhN50gESVjsub7Jbcpfstq2AhsJnHXQVj36ktl~N5qZLf9cNqzq71xKIMedbWhyydovcNqw3jd~j6ylnFaxcxh4_]<br />
--[[User:M.vit|M.vit]] ([[User talk:M.vit|talk]]) 22:09, 8 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:There's a section discussing that right above this one. Please join that conversation instead of starting a new section for the same thing. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">--Pokemaster</span>]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">97</span>]]''''' 22:15, 8 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Except South Korea ==<br />
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In the video, they only say "except select countries". --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 22:20, 8 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Xerneas and Yveltal ==<br />
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Pokemon.com just confirmed the names of the mascots: Bambi is called Xerneas and Tweety is called Yveltal. http://www.pokemon.com/pokemonxy/en-us/ [[User:NP Chilla|NP Chilla]] ([[User talk:NP Chilla|talk]]) 14:14, 9 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Interwiki ==<br />
Why don't you add the other lenguages? [http://wiki.pokemoncentral.it/Pok%C3%A9mon_X_e_Y Central Wiki], [http://www.pokewiki.de/Pok%C3%A9mon_X_und_Pok%C3%A9mon_Y PokéWiki], [http://poketeca.com/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_X_y_Y Pokéteca] ? --[[User:Zapdos96|Zapdos96]] ([[User talk:Zapdos96|talk]]) 18:02, 12 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Done. (Thanks for the reminder.) --[[User:神奇超龍|<font color="#2B547E">'''超龍'''</font>]]<sub><small>「'''[[User talk:神奇超龍|Chao]]'''」</small></sub> 18:09, 12 January 2013 (UTC)<br><br />
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== Name origin ==<br />
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According to Japanese websites, the X and Y refer to the chromosomes --[[User:Ext|Ext]] ([[User talk:Ext|talk]]) 18:18, 12 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Link to the source please. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 20:38, 12 January 2013 (UTC) <br />
:[http://blog.esuteru.com/archives/6852422.html]here at comment #1154 talking about the logo showing DNA. Also here [http://pokemonxy.jp/news/20130108/pokemon_dna.html] read the article. The logo on the article should be updated. --[[User:Ext|Ext]] ([[User talk:Ext|talk]]) 13:25, 17 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Error ==<br />
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It says "The first Pokémon '''to be released'''" when it should say "The first Pokémon '''revealed'''". &mdash;[[User:Clubchloe1|<span style="color:#025DA6;">'''Club'''</span>]][[User talk:Clubchloe1|<span style="color:#EA1A3E;">'''chloe1'''</span>]] 19:49, 14 February 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Bolero Time ==<br />
So are we going to completely ignore the fact that the male character is blatantly skating/roller-blading in the trailer? <br />
Twenty-six seconds in to the trailer. I mean, this is new game-play right? I'm mentioning it here because I know if I just go ahead and put it in I'll get loads of "well he might be using Surf or something" complaints because for some reason it's only worth adding if an admin happens to like it. So yeah. [[User:Me, Hurray!|Me, Hurray!]] ([[User talk:Me, Hurray!|talk]]) 22:52, 19 February 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== November 2, 2013 ==<br />
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Gamestop apparently lists the game's American release as Nov. 2nd, 2013? Is this true, and if so, wouldn't the article need to be updated to match it?--[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] ([[User talk:Darknesslover5000|talk]]) 05:38, 20 February 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Gamestop usually lists a incorrect date before a game comes out, so I wouldn't worry about updating the page. --[[User:Funktastic~!|<span style="color:#009900">'''It's'''</span> <span style="color:#CC66FF">'''Funktastic~!'''</span>]][[User talk:Funktastic~!|<sub><small><span style="color:#99CCFF">''話してください''</span></small></sub>]] 05:43, 20 February 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Thank you. I can rest easy--[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] ([[User talk:Darknesslover5000|talk]]) 05:48, 20 February 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::No so much an incorrect date as their estimation. They have to make these estimations for the purposes of preorders. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 07:26, 20 February 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== RFE: Broken Link in Bulbanews box ==<br />
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The Bulbanews box currently gets the link wrong:<br />
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'''<nowiki>{{bulbanews|game}}</nowiki>''' links to [[:n:Category:Articles relating to Pokémon X and Y]] but the actual page is [[:n:Category:Articles relating to Pokémon X and Y Versions]].<br />
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It should be '''<nowiki>{{bulbanews|game|Pokémon X and Y Versions}}</nowiki>''' instead. --''[[User:Stratelier|Stratelier]]'' 19:16, 28 February 2013 (UTC)<br />
:I've changed the category on Bulbanews. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 06:52, 8 March 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Mewtwo's Awakened Form ==<br />
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A new, Mewtwo-esque Pokémon has been revealed. It needs to be added to this page.<br />
*http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vk_YC0MXJ-0&list=PLQWzKIaERirwczLwQE6HegZyd4pYV5AwH <br />
*http://www.pokemon.com/pokemonxy/en-us/<br />
[[User:MasterZ|MasterZ]] ([[User talk:MasterZ|talk]]) 23:48, 6 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
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It should be added on this page, but there isn't much anyone can write about it, as nothing is known except for the fact it's similar to Mewtwo. (Although in my opinion, I think it should just be noted with a photo about the new Pokemon in the Pokemon X and Y page and the Generation VI page). Btw, this new generation is totaly getting me pumped up for October! I know thats not a place to say that, but yea, just wanted to put that out there! LOL Hopefully new information will be available soon! :) PokeNerd 07:07, 7 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
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Well, it's been added. Now we have to keep an eye out for its name... Maybe in the meantime we could just call it "New Mewtwo". [[User:MasterZ|MasterZ]] ([[User talk:MasterZ|talk]]) 20:15, 7 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
:NO. Absolutely no speculating for now. We need to wait for an official name. ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|<span style="color:teal">Frozen</span>]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|<span style="color:green">Fennec</span>]]'' 20:21, 7 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
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While I agree 100% with no speculation, if the image is there, the presence of this new Mewtwo-like Pokemon and its role in the new movie should be mentioned under "New Pokemon", especially since I believe that would make it the first Gen VI Pokemon to appear in the anime. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] ([[User talk:Drake Clawfang|talk]]) 22:07, 7 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
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We should call it ?????????? for now. [[User:MewtwoForm2|MewtwoForm2]] ([[User talk:MewtwoForm2|talk]]) 23:04, 7 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
:We just need to wait. That's all I have to say regarding its name. ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|<span style="color:teal">Frozen</span>]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|<span style="color:green">Fennec</span>]]'' 23:08, 7 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
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I agree, leave it how it is! There is nothing further that anyone can tell at this time! Like I said above, they have only stated it shares similarities to Mewtwo and nothing else at this time! Naming it "??????????" is pointless, having a photo on the Pokemon X and Y page is just fine (how it is now). When more CONCRETE evidence is revealed, then a page should and will be made for the new Pokemon! Till then, lets just be amazed and in awe of this new Pokemon! :) PokeNerd 11:10, 8 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
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[[User:Poko10|Poko10]] ([[User talk:Poko10|talk]]) 10:35, 13 April 2013 (UTC)PEOPLE i found a probable corocoro leak! It confirms that the new "mewtwo" IS a new forme. :D<br />
*Same here, it's probably okay to label its box as "Mewtwo" or "New Mewtwo forme" at this point. [[User:Darthrai|Darthrai]] ([[User talk:Darthrai|talk]]) 14:25, 13 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
::[[n:CoroCoro reveals last week's unveiled Pokémon to be Forme of Mewtwo]] --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 14:45, 13 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
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Not to speculate, but considering the movie's called Mewtwo's Awakening, and the form is described as Mewtwo awakening in its new form, I would say it's called "Awakened Form". But we should just wait for more info and add the artwork to the [[Mewtwo]] page. [[User:MasterZ|MasterZ]] ([[User talk:MasterZ|talk]]) 15:57, 13 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
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I agree we should probably wait for more information before we start naming things. [[User:Poko10|Poko10]] ([[User talk:Poko10|talk]]) 00:08, 14 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
:When a name comes out, we'll add it, but this talkpage isn't the place to speculate about what it could be. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">--Pokemaster</span>]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">97</span>]]''''' 00:22, 14 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
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Now that its been confirmed as a new forme of Mewtwo, can that be officially added to the page and Mewtwo's page? Or should we wait? Demers-Vachon 01:45, 19 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
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Why was the new Mewtwo picture removed in the recent update? <br />
[[User:CrystalHalfBreed|CrystalHalfBreed]] ([[User talk:CrystalHalfBreed|talk]]) 19:18, 22 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Because its been confirmed to be a new form and not a new Pokémon. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 11:29, 23 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
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Maybe we should make a new section for revealed forms of pokemon? Or place something in the screen shot section? It seems weird not to have any of this news anywhere on the page.<br />
[[User:CrystalHalfBreed|CrystalHalfBreed]] ([[User talk:CrystalHalfBreed|talk]]) 15:51, 23 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Possible Pokémon X and Y Release date ==<br />
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Hi! I'm new at this and I wanna share something to you all.<br />
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While I'm searching the web about Pokémon, I found a Wikipedia page titled ''2013 in video gaming'' and I was so excited to see a release date for ''Pokémon X and Y''. This maybe unofficial because I couldn't see any reference about the date. So here's the link: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_in_video_gaming#October.E2.80.93December 2013 in video gaming]<br />
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I hope this will help and also please reply... thank you! --[[User:AwesomeDJPokemon|AwesomeDJPokemon]] ([[User talk:AwesomeDJPokemon|talk]]) 15:10, 8 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:From our article:<br />
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::"The paired versions will be released worldwide (except for select countries) on '''October 2013''' and will be available for both retail sale and download."<br />
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:It was announced in the first trailer I believe. --[[User:Spriteit|Spriteit]] ([[User talk:Spriteit|talk]]) 15:13, 8 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Yeah, basically everyone has known the release date since the games were announced. I wonder where you have been for the past three months.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#AB0909">電</font><font color="#063A73">禅</font>]]<small>[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#fff" face="Tahoma"><span style="text-shadow:#000 0.2em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Den Zen</span></font>]]</small>''' 15:23, 8 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
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::: Well, I knew that it was going to be released in October but I was talking about the exact '''date''' of the release. --[[User:AwesomeDJPokemon|AwesomeDJPokemon]] ([[User talk:AwesomeDJPokemon|talk]]) 15:30, 8 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::: Oh, sorry. I didn't notice that there was '20' in the table. I'm sure it's just an assumption though.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#AB0909">電</font><font color="#063A73">禅</font>]]<small>[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#fff" face="Tahoma"><span style="text-shadow:#000 0.2em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Den Zen</span></font>]]</small>''' 15:52, 8 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:::::Thank you for noticing it! I just wanna contribute to you guys this and other information about the game and the franchise. --[[User:AwesomeDJPokemon|AwesomeDJPokemon]] ([[User talk:AwesomeDJPokemon|talk]]) 16:06, 8 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::::Wikipedia is only reliable when a source is provided. I tracked down [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2013_in_video_gaming&diff=539765900&oldid=539723107 the edit which added the 20], and no source was provided. I have now removed that from the Wikipedia page. Thanks for pointing it out though. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 12:51, 9 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::::: Just to let you know, the release date that says October 20th is back on that wikipedia page, I even called my game stores in my home town and all of them just have October 2013, no specific date. So whoever added that to wiki page, needs to A) remove it or B) provide a real source to where they got that release date from! PokeNerd 01:19, 10 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::::::The same user removed it later, so it's fine now. (Also, we really shouldn't use a Bulbapedia talk page to discuss a Wikipedia issue.) --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 08:12, 11 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Lots of new Pokemon revealed, new region revealed, slight customization revealed, etc. etc. ETC! ==<br />
Seriously, this is a news overload. We even have some info about the starters! Somebody, add all this! Especially the new Pokemon! We even have pages for them, now! {{unsigned|Poko907}}<br />
:Please allow some time, we've been working hard to add and update in a timely manner. The new information will be added ASAP. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">--Pokemaster</span>]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">97</span>]]''''' 15:59, 11 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
:: It's on the page now! Awesome! {{unsigned|Poko907}}<br />
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== Boxes exist now ==<br />
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[[a:File:X EN boxart.png]] [[a:File:Y EN boxart.png]]<br>can you stick these on--[[User:Pikachu Bros.|<span style="color:lightblue">Pikachu Bros.</span>]] <small>([[User talk:Pikachu Bros.|<span style="color:red">talk</span>]])</small> 18:32, 14 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Female player == <br />
We don't have ANY pictures of her official art, despite some pictures of her being on the official site. I was wondering why she isn't there, considering all of the new Pokemon, the region, a city, and more being added in. [[User:Poko907|Poko907]] ([[User talk:Poko907|talk]]) 21:09, 14 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
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The pictures on the official site ARE official art. [[User:MasterZ|MasterZ]] ([[User talk:MasterZ|talk]]) 20:58, 25 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Downloadable citation? ==<br />
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Where was it (first?) stated that X and Y will be downloadable titles from the eShop? Or is it just a rule now for 3DS games? --[[User:Johans|Johans]] ([[User talk:Johans|talk]]) 02:32, 15 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Found it in history: http://www.famitsu.com/news/201301/08026993.html Maybe this needs citation, though. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] ([[User talk:Johans|talk]]) 02:48, 15 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Disambiguation clarification ==<br />
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Shouldn't the article have some kind of introductory disambiguation statement situated somewhere at the article's beginning? Something like:<br />
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:''This article is about the game'' Pokémon X.'' For other referrals, see [[Pokémon X]].'' <br />
[[User:Fenyx4|Fenyx4]] ([[User talk:Fenyx4|talk]]) 20:36, 15 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
::There's no need. Searching [[Pokémon X]] already takes you to that page. There are no terms that redirect here that could be confused with other items on the disambiguation page. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 13:11, 20 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Character Designs ==<br />
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The news overload continues... According to the Official Pokémon X and Y website, when you choose your gender, you have 3 different character designs to choose from. You can also change your outfit later on. [[User:MasterZ|MasterZ]] ([[User talk:MasterZ|talk]]) 23:40, 15 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Opposite Player ==<br />
The PC you don't choose will appear sometime during the storyline, as shown in the trailer. Mystriously, she doesn't have her trademark hat. Maybe it's the same for the male PC, but we can't speculate on pages, so. {{Unsigned|Poko907}}<br />
:When in which video were the male and female players shown in the same screen? -[[User:IVsaur|<span style="color:lightbrown">EVs</span><small><span style="color:black">and</span></small><span style="color:green">IVsaurs</span>]] 17:33, 18 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
::[http://www.pokemonxy.com/_ui/img/_en/screenshots/may_supp_p3_5.jpg Here]. We're not adding it, though. We have zero information on the context of the scene and assuming that girl is opposite gender player character is pure speculation at this point. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 17:44, 18 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
OK. [[User:Poko907|Poko907]] ([[User talk:Poko907|talk]]) 01:00, 19 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Concept Art? Official? ==<br />
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[http://oyster.ignimgs.com/wordpress/stg.ign.com/2013/05/Lumiose-City-scene-illustration.jpg]<br />
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I found this on IGN's article on new stuff from XY, It said concept art, is this official, if so shouldn't it make its way to the image gallery?<br />
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Also sorry, I have no idea how to make it smaller so I just put it as a link. Other wise it would have stretched the page. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 09:42, 19 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
:I don't know if it would be classified as concept art, but it's real. It's used on the article for Lumiose City. --[[User:HoennMaster|<font color="blue">Hoenn</font>]][[User talk:HoennMaster|<font color="green">Master</font>]] 15:25, 19 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Ken Sugimori ==<br />
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I asked this on Helioptile's page as well, but no one answered, so here it goes:<br />
Whenever a new Pokemon is released, as is the case with the 4 new Pokemon recently released, we get official artwork from them. But how do we know definitely that the artwork is always by Sugimori? Of course, it is his art style, but that's not so hard to mimic for a professional... <br />
So how do we know? --[[User:Phoenixon|Phoenixon]] ([[User talk:Phoenixon|talk]]) 20:52, 30 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
:We know that Sugimori always draws the Pokemon, so until we're told otherwise, it's pretty safe to assume. In fact, I'm pretty sure others have drawn artwork for player characters, or other characters, and we've been told that. Of course, it might also say it somewhere, but I never look at the places where the artwork is revealed. --[[User:Funktastic~!|<span style="color:#009900">'''It's'''</span> <span style="color:#CC66FF">'''Funktastic~!'''</span>]][[User talk:Funktastic~!|<sub><small><span style="color:#99CCFF">''話してください''</span></small></sub>]] 21:33, 30 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Noivern, Vivillon, and Pokémon-Amie ==<br />
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Don't forget to add them. [[User:MasterZ|MasterZ]] ([[User talk:MasterZ|talk]]) 18:31, 11 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Korean release date confirmed ==<br />
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It'll be [http://pokemonxy.pokemonkorea.co.kr/product.html October 12th, 2013] like the rest of the world (that's a first!) ... I'd add it myself, if the page was unlocked. -- [[User:Nick15|Nick15]] ([[User talk:Nick15|talk]]) 03:06, 12 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Possible player names ==<br />
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From the official website: [http://www.pokemonxy.com/_ui/img/_en/screenshots/june_p1_02.jpg] However, I'm not sure if these are 100% a confirmation, as back when Black and White were coming out Hilbert and Hilda were shown as "Blair" and "Whitley" in some screenshots. Should we start calling XY's players Xavier and Yvonne or play it safe for now? [[User:Reign|Reign]] ([[User talk:Reign|talk]]) 07:07, 12 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
:It's the same exact thing as Blair and Whitlea. We're playing it safe for the moment. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 08:14, 12 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Righto then. On a related topic, apparently according to CoroCoro, their Japanese names are Callum (m) and Serena (f).[[User:Reign|Reign]] ([[User talk:Reign|talk]]) 00:57, 13 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::Callum and Serena are the names on the official site for the rivals. -[[User:IVsaur|<span style="color:lightbrown">EVs</span><small><span style="color:black">and</span></small><span style="color:green">IVsaurs</span>]] 13:35, 14 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::Should we change the names of the "Hero" and "Heroine" to Calem and Serena? - {{u|Rockettitan7}}, 12:36, 16 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
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==Versions...again==<br />
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So this was already talked about earlier and the official artwork seems to confirm there is no version in the title. However, Nintendo's [http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/library/events/130612/02.html E3 briefing] calls them X Version and Y Version. --[[User:HoennMaster|<font color="blue">Hoenn</font>]][[User talk:HoennMaster|<font color="green">Master</font>]] 03:22, 14 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
:I think we're going to have to assume that's a mistake for now. We have box art and there is no "Version" on them. On Pokémon.com [http://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-video-games/pokemon-black-version-and-pokemon-white-version/ all other games] say "Version" while [http://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-video-games/pokemon-x-and-pokemon-y/ X and Y] don't. I think the best source we have is the box art, so until we get box art with "Version" we should just consider the titles to not contain "Version". --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 10:21, 14 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Languages ==<br />
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Why has it not been added to the article that this is the first game to have all 7 languages in one cartridge? -[[User:IVsaur|<span style="color:lightbrown">EVs</span><small><span style="color:black">and</span></small><span style="color:green">IVsaurs</span>]] 12:09, 14 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== June CoroCoro Pokemon ==<br />
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I can't help but notice that the 4 pokemon shown in June CoroCoro ([[Litleo]], [[Flabebe]], [[Scatterbug]], and [[Spewpa]]) have not been added to the list of X and Y Pokemon. Is that an oversight, or are no more pokemon being added their because of lack of room? --[[User:Senoel99|Senoel99]] ([[User talk:Senoel99|talk]]) 17:26, 14 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Characters needs to be updated ==<br />
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Can someone change Hero and Heroine to Calum and Serena (also those pages need to be created, but anyway), and add Shauna, Tierno, Trevor, Alexa, and Viola as well. Thanks.<br />
[[User:CoolDudeAl|CoolDudeAl]] ([[User talk:CoolDudeAl|talk]]) 21:04, 14 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
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Calum and Serena are the names of the rivals and Calum is your rival when you choose the female character and Serena is your rival when you play as the male character. [[User:KennyMc0294|KennyMc0294]] ([[User talk:KennyMc0294|talk]]) 01:37, 15 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
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Calem and Serena are also the default names for the hero and heroine respectively. And yes, there should be Shauna, Tierno, etc. in the characters list. [[User:Functioning Blaziken|Functioning Blaziken]] ([[User talk:Functioning Blaziken|talk]]) 13:25, 10 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== The image for spewpa ==<br />
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The image of spewpa is cut from the corocoro leaks, The official artwork is alredy uploaded to BulbaNewsNOW's twitter I think you should replace it, I'll do it but I don't know how, I am new here. {{unsigned|SuckMyBlood}}<br />
:It usually takes some time before the new version of an image is correctly shown on every page the image is on. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ [[User:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Blazing</span>]]</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 23:32, 14 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Player default names? ==<br />
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Are the player's names Callum and Serena for the male and female respectively? I heard it somewhere, but I'm not sure. [[User:Functioning Blaziken|Functioning Blaziken]] ([[User talk:Functioning Blaziken|talk]]) 15:30, 16 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Calem and Serena, but yes, they are the official names. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 15:53, 16 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Mistake ==<br />
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I can't edit the article, but this sentence sounds wonky to me:<br />
"The Player Search System (PSS) is a multiplayer feature that always people to connect, battle, and trade with other players through the internet." [[User:Eevee-Girl|Eevee-Girl]] ([[User talk:Eevee-Girl|talk]]) 06:50, 17 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
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I think it's been changed to 'allows' now. [[User:Functioning Blaziken|Functioning Blaziken]] ([[User talk:Functioning Blaziken|talk]]) 13:21, 10 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== '''ヒトツキ''' ==<br />
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Shouldn't [[ヒトツキ]] (Hitotsuki [Monorpale]) be added to the new Pokémon section?--[[User:ShinyPatch|ShinyPatch]] ([[User talk:ShinyPatch|talk]]) 18:44, 4 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== spewpa art ==<br />
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someone '''really''' needs to try and reupload the spewpa art. It sticks out so painfully. [[User:0danmaster0|0danmaster0]] ([[User talk:0danmaster0|talk]]) 21:40, 5 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
:The file was updated with the official version of the artwork almost a month ago over on the Archives, but the thumbnail still hasn't synced for some reason. Regardless, the file itself is up-to-date. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 18:23, 11 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== version exclusives ==<br />
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since we now know of two pairs of version exclusives I think it is worth making a preliminary list. [[User:0danmaster0|0danmaster0]] ([[User talk:0danmaster0|talk]]) 16:06, 11 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Korean feature, etc, names ==<br />
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Because I don't have any other place to put these... I'll just place them here for posterity.<br />
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===Features of X&Y===<br />
* 무리배틀 ''{{tt|Muri|swarm}} {{tt|Baeteul|Battle}}'': Horde Encounters<br />
* 스카이배틀 ''{{tt|Seukai Baeteul|Sky Battle}}'': Sky Battles<br />
* 포켓파를레 ''Poket'pareulle'': Pokémon-Amie; based on its Japanese name PokéParler (ポケパルレ ''Pokeparure'')<br />
* The "Player Search System" (PSS) is specifically "PSS".<br />
:* 홀로캐스터 ''Hollokaeseuteo'': Holocaster feature<br />
:* 배틀스폿 ''Baeteul'seupot'': Battle Spot feature<br />
:* O파워 ''O-pawo'': O-Powers feature<br />
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===Names for new attacks include===<br />
* 문포스 ''Mun'poseu'': Sylpheon's attack "Moonblast"<br />
: It's just the transliteration of "Moon Force"<br />
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* 파라볼라차지 ''Parabolla'chaji'': Helioptile's attack "Parabolic Charge"<br />
: It's just the transliteration of "Parabola Charge"<br />
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* 니트로차지 ''Niteuro'chaji'': Fletchling's attack "[[Flame Charge]]"<br />
: It's just the transliteration of "Nitro Charge"<br />
:* But this isn't a new attack :X<br />
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* 막말내뱉기 ''Makmal'naebaetgi'': Pamcham's attack "Parting Shot"<br />
:* 막 ''mak'': "just" (as in, "I just got it for you!") or "act" (as in a play)<br />
:* 말 ''mal'': "language, speech"<br />
:: 막말 ''makmal'': also means "a blunt remark", "rude talk"<br />
:* 내뱉기 ''naebaetgi'': "spit", "hurl", "blurt" (specifically used with "words", like "the words just hurled out of their mouth")<br />
:: So "Rude talk spit".<br />
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* 우드호른 ''Udeu'horeun'': Gogoat's attack "[[Horn Leech]]"<br />
: It's just the transliteration of "Wood Horn"<br />
:* But this isn't a new attack :X<br />
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* 폭음파 ''Pok'eumpa'': Noivern's attack "Boomburst"<br />
:* 폭(爆) ''pok'': pop, burst, explode<br />
:* 음(音) ''eum'': sound<br />
:* 파(波) ''pa'': wave<br />
: So "Explosive Sound Wave".<br />
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.... I'll add more in a little bit. -- [[User:Nick15|Nick15]] ([[User talk:Nick15|talk]]) 02:32, 12 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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I just realized some of the attacks aren't new... so I've made note of those above, and will only post about the Korean names for the new ones below.<br />
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* 부르짖기 ''Bureujijgi'': Litleo's attack "Noble Roar"<br />
:* 부르 ''bureu'': to call out, hail, summon<br />
:* 짖 ''jij'': bark, howl, roar<br />
:: So "Hail Roar"<br />
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* 요정의바람 ''Yojeong'ui-baram'': Flabébé's attack "Fairy Wind"<br />
:* 요정 ''yojeong'': fairy, sprite (so, "fairy")<br />
:* 의 ''ui'': XXX's<br />
:* 바람 ''baram'': wind<br />
:: So "Fairy's Wind" or... "Fairy Wind".<br />
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....That's all I got for now. -- [[User:Nick15|Nick15]] ([[User talk:Nick15|talk]]) 17:49, 12 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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Here's Xerneas' and Yveltal's abilities and attacks in Korean:<br />
* Xerneas:<br />
:* 페어리오라 ''Pe'eori'ora'': Xerneas' ability "Fairy Aura"<br />
:* 지오컨트롤 ''Jiokeonteurol'': Xerneas' attack "Geomancy" (though it's "Geo Control" in Korean)<br />
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* Yveltal:<br />
:* 다크오라 ''Dakeu'ora'': Yveltal's ability "Dark Aura"<br />
:* 데스윙 ''Deseu'wing'': Yveltal's attack "Oblivion Wing" (though it's "Death Wing" in Korean) -- [[User:Nick15|Nick15]] ([[User talk:Nick15|talk]]) 03:01, 21 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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===Other bits===<br />
* Lass Anna's name is 이화 ''I'hwa''<br />
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-- [[User:Nick15|Nick15]] ([[User talk:Nick15|talk]]) 18:34, 12 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Artwork ==<br />
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Can someone please add the artwork of the five new Pokemon? Like, Inkay, Spritzee, etc.? [[User:Nutter Butter|Nutter Butter]] ([[User talk:Nutter Butter|talk]]) 19:04, 12 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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Uhhhhh it needs done again :P [[User:Nutter Butter|Nutter Butter]] ([[User talk:Nutter Butter|talk]]) 20:49, 10 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
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==Languages==<br />
Can someone please add the fact that all the localizations will have the same languages (mentioned [http://www.pokemonxy.com/en-us/news/news_languages_2.html here]), as it is a very notable change? [[User:TheOriginalOne|<span style="color:#9E0508">'''The'''</span>]][[User talk:TheOriginalOne|<span style="color:#5D9160">'''Original'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/TheOriginalOne|<span style="color:#60AFFE">'''One'''</span>]] 23:13, 12 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Character artwork ==<br />
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There have been many more characters revealed than the player characters so far, shouldn't their artwork be added to the page?[[User:Voltdetector|Voltdetector]] ([[User talk:Voltdetector|talk]]) 09:21, 13 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Mini sprites. ==<br />
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IT seems they've changed mini sprites. I've compared the one at evostone example, and it looks different from what we have. [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] ([[User talk:Marked +-+-+|talk]]) 09:29, 13 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Oorotto ==<br />
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Since [[Oorotto]] has been revealed now, shouldn't the article be created now? [[User:Pokebub|Pokebub]] ([[User talk:Pokebub|talk]]) 06:30, 31 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Hold your horses there, bucko. I'm sure it's being worked on in someone's userspace already. The admins keep track of the news and are well aware of when things are revealed; there's no need to prod at talk pages. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 07:04, 31 July 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Do all the Pokémon need to be shown? ==<br />
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There are quite a few Pokémon now, surely we don't have to see artwork for them all. Maybe just Froakie, Chespin and Fennekin. [[Emboar|<span style="color:#AB0047;">This</span>]] [[Butch|<span style="color:#AB0047;">is</span>]] [[Cassidy|<span style="color:#AB0047;">Mkbw50</span>]] [[Ritchie|<span style="color:#AB0047;">signing</span>]] [[User:Mkbw50|<span style="color:#AB0047;">off</span>]] 08:52, 5 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== MegaEvolutions ==<br />
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Shouldn't there be a section on Mega Evolutions. It might be a little too soon and not enough information on them yet because they just got comfirmed, but maybe at least mentioning them now and adding on later.[[User:Spiknoway84|Spiknoway84]] ([[User talk:Spiknoway84|talk]]) 03:12, 9 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Super Training ==<br />
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Shouldn't somebody add a section on Super Training? There's a section on Mega Evolution, and Super Training was revealed the same day. [[User:Functioning Blaziken|Functioning Blaziken]] ([[User talk:Functioning Blaziken|talk]]) 13:16, 10 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== New Pokémon ==<br />
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The artwork for the new Pokémon revealed yesterday- Dedenne, Bunnelby and Skiddo- is missing. [[User:Functioning Blaziken|Functioning Blaziken]] ([[User talk:Functioning Blaziken|talk]]) 13:20, 10 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Missing Appearances ==<br />
I've noticed that many of the new Pokemon are missing their "Physiology" descriptions, when it should be easy to write once you know what they look like shouldn't it? [[User:Ziggyangelo88|Ziggyangelo88]] ([[User talk:Ziggyangelo88|talk]]) 19:10, 10 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Character artwork ==<br />
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There have been new characters revealed, such as Gym leaders like Viola, Citron and Korrina and other characters like Professor Platane, your rivals and Team Flare, shouldn't they be added to the new characters section? [[User:Voltdetector|Voltdetector]] ([[User talk:Voltdetector|talk]])<br />
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== Fairy type info update ==<br />
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It is now known that {{t|Fire}} resists Fairy, so that will need to be included. [[User:Berrenta|Berrenta]] ([[User talk:Berrenta|talk]]) 17:29, 17 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Additional Demo Info ==<br />
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Tierno is seen walking around, there is a second maze area where you can interact with a Litleo, and Flabébé are seen in the flowers. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P83GIhzxKq0 Source] --[[User:HoennMaster|<font color="blue">Hoenn</font>]][[User talk:HoennMaster|<font color="green">Master</font>]] 18:43, 21 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== pika ==<br />
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Am i the only one who who heard pikachu go "pika pika" when it fainted in the demo instead of its normal cry?[[User:Deoxys80|Deoxys80]] ([[User talk:Deoxys80|talk]]) 20:48, 21 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Mewtwo's and Crobat's cries have been remastered to sound more like modern Pokémon, and Pikachu's has been replaced with its anime voice. I suspect it hasn't been added to the page because we want to wait to see exactly how thorough the changes are, to avoid spreading misinformation. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 21:26, 21 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Demo ==<br />
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The Pokémon that can be found in the demo are: Pikachu, Bunnelby, Litleo, Exeggutor, Skitty and Flabebe. Also, all of them can be found in both grass and flowers. Please update. --[[User:Caciulacdlac|Caciulacdlac]] ([[User talk:Caciulacdlac|talk]]) 13:37, 31 August 2013 (UTC)<br />
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==Features update==<br />
Pokémon Bank, please. [[User:TheOriginalOne|<span style="color:red">'''オリ'''</span>]][[User talk:TheOriginalOne|<span style="color:green">'''ジ'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/TheOriginalOne|<span style="color:blue">'''ナル'''</span>]] <small>TheOriginalOne</small> 16:38, 4 September 2013 (UTC)<br />
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==Should the Korean box art be under the Japanese box art?==<br />
Since both the Japanese and Korean box art for Pokémon X and Y have two different writing systems (which is the main difference not only between each other but also the box art of the Americas and Europe) should it also be included not only in this article as well as the other games that also have Korean box art? [[User:sion8|sion8]] ([[User talk:sion8|talk]]) 20:38, 9 September 2013 (UTC)<br />
:As far as I'm aware, the only box art shown prominently on pages are the Japanese, since it's the original language, and the English language box art. --[[User:Funktastic~!|<span style="color:#009900">'''It's'''</span> <span style="color:#CC66FF">'''Funktastic~!'''</span>]][[User talk:Funktastic~!|<sub><small><span style="color:#99CCFF">''話してください''</span></small></sub>]] 21:37, 9 September 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Well that is true, which is why I would like the box art of the Korean versions that have been created such as the original Pokémon Gold and Silver as well as all the generation IV and V games that have Korean box art to also be part of the respective games' articles in the same way the Japanese box art is hidden until one clicks for it to be shown. [[User:sion8|sion8]] ([[User talk:sion8|talk]]) 12:14, 10 September 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::We include the English-language box art because we are an English-language wiki and we include the Japanese box art because it is the original. If we included any others, we would have to include all of them, which would be quite unwieldy (even with a [show]/[hide] box). I'm not opposed to giving each game page a subpage that would show the box art from every international version, but I really think we don't need any more on the main articles. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 14:29, 10 September 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== US Gamestops to give exclusive Timeline away with preorder! ==<br />
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I just went to my local Gamestop (to obtain the Shiny Palkia of course) and found out anyone who has preordered ''Pokémon X'' and ''Y'' will receive an exclusive Timeline consisting of the covers to all the US release of the Pokémon version games from 1998 to ''X'' and ''Y''. [[User:FanOfCountry|FanOfCountry]] ([[User talk:FanOfCountry|talk]]) 17:34, 11 September 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Here is the information from the [http://www.gamestop.com/collection/pokemon-x-and-y Gamestop website]. [[User:FanOfCountry|FanOfCountry]] ([[User talk:FanOfCountry|talk]]) 17:37, 11 September 2013 (UTC)<br />
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==Fairy type==<br />
The info for the Fairy type needs to be updated on this article since we now know what it's strong and weak against. It's super effective against Dragon, Fighting and Dark. Fire, Poison and Steel resist the Fairy type and Fairy immune to Dragon. [[User:Poke&#39;fan07|Poke&#39;fan07]] ([[User talk:Poke&#39;fan07|talk]]) 02:17, 16 September 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== 09/17 Japanese eShop trailer (evening, clothing customization, radical ledge revolution) ==<br />
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The [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TotwurUNRdI&feature=youtu.be&t=2m47s Japanese eShop trailer] has revealed the following! I apologize if any of this is old information -- I have trouble keeping everything straight.<br />
*The trainer's hand is visible when catching a Pokémon. Pokémon don't have any special animations for the capture sequence.<br />
*[[Houndour]] horde.<br />
*When Mega Evolving a Pokémon, their (possibly updated) stats and health bar will reappear before the process is over. The Mega-evolved Pokémon will be listed under its normal name, with a Mega Stone icon next to its level.<br />
*Battles and trades through the [[Player Search System]] take place in a holographic-style environment.<br />
*Evening is present in the game. You can see the sun setting behind the [[Tower of Mastery]].<br />
*Clothing customization seems straightforward. When accessing the clothing customization screen, the player can select "Hats" (Head accessories?), "Tops," "Pants" (bottoms?), "Dresses" (full-body outfits?), "Socks," "Shoes," "Bags" (large accessories?), and "Glasses" (small accessories?). (Note: these are just my guesses based on the menu icons.) The trailer shows the player selecting the "Tops" menu, then browsing through different colors of a "Mini-length Parka." The trailer shows red, pink, green, and another unknown color for the parka. Different clothing styles may result in different visual effects when exiting the customization menu: a "sporty" female trainer is surrounded by brightly-colored lines, while a more "feminine" female trainer is surrounded by pink flowers. Customized clothing shows up on the avatar while they're running around in the overworld. <br />
*A Team Flare grunt states that Team Flare's objective is only its own members' happiness. <br />
*When riding a Pokémon (in this case, Skiddo), the player can '''jump up ledges'''. We are surely in a new generation.<br />
The trailer also showed some new scenery: a pier lined with small motor boats, a grassy path with a holographic (news?) screen and a pair of [[Twins]] (?), and a long, arched hallway with chandeliers opening up onto a courtyard. [[User:Arpha|<span style="color:#94C953">A</span><span style="color:#A2D663">r</span><span style="color:#ACDE6F">p</span><span style="color:#B8E87D">h</span><span style="color:#C4F28D">a</span>]] ([[User talk:Arpha|talk]]) 02:36, 18 September 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Fossil Evo pics ==<br />
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Seeing that there has been a few [[Tyrantrum (Pokémon)|more]] [[Aurorus (Pokémon)|pictures]] revealed, I'm guessing you guys are going to stop adding new Pokémon pictures as they are revealed now? Would make sense as the release date is coming closer and soon this page will have to be like {{g|Black and White}}. ----[[User:NateVirus|<span style="color:blue">NateVirus</span>]]<small>''([[User talk:NateVirus|<span style="color:green">Talk</span>]]''|''[[Special:Contributions/NateVirus|<span style="color:red">Contributions</span>]]''</small>) 23:24, 23 September 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Sprites? ==<br />
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Now that the editing ban is gone, how are we going to add the in game sprites to all the Pokemon's pages? --[[User:Cj1227|<span style="color:Blue">Cj1227</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:Cj1227|<span style="color:red">Need Something?</span>]])''</small> 18:32, 25 October 2013 (UTC)<br />
:I think the Pokédex sprites could be a good starting point. If someone can, in-battle sprites could also be good. Anyway, I agree that those artworks should be replaced with actual sprites. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 18:45, 25 October 2013 (UTC) PS. Somebody should remove the editing ban on Bulbagarden Archives as well so that this would be possible. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 18:48, 25 October 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== What are my pokemon doing? ==<br />
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--[[User:Darkmaster|Darkmaster]] ([[User talk:Darkmaster|talk]]) 02:42, 31 October 2013 (UTC)Lately I have been noticing that when I enter a battle, my pokemon shakes a bit. It occasionally also gives me messages like Yveltal looks a little excited, or Furfrou is a little nervous. Can anyone explain what it means?<br />
:Your pokemon has some hearts on the affection meter, which results from playing pokemon-amie--[[User:BigBadBatter|BigBadBatter]] ([[User talk:BigBadBatter|talk]]) 04:11, 6 November 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Friend Safari and version exclusives ==<br />
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I've seen that a recent edit has deleted some of the version exclusives because they can caught in friend safari in any version. Should it be reverted? --[[User:el shendee|el shendee]] ([[User talk:el shendee|talk]]) 9:35, 25 November 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Plot? ==<br />
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Could somebody please add the plot to Pokémon X and Y, like how it is with the other main series pages on Bulbapedia? Thanks! [[User:Zorocario|Zorocario]] ([[User talk:Zorocario|talk]]) 16:32, 21 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Double negative ==<br />
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On the first page, it says: "The '''non'''-Japanese versions are so far the only ones '''not''' to have the term Version in its name."<br />
Wouldn't it be easier to remove the double negative here, as in: "The Japanese versions are so far the only ones to have the term Version in its name."<br />
--[[User:Phoenixon|Phoenixon]] ([[User talk:Phoenixon|talk]]) 13:15, 27 December 2013 (UTC)</div>Phoenixonhttps://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Obedience&diff=2039014Talk:Obedience2013-12-17T18:35:32Z<p>Phoenixon: /* Percentages... */ new section</p>
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<div>==Trainers getting the term==<br />
Doesn't this term also apply to Trainers as well? I have seen many times in the anime that certain Trainers don't listen to Ash (mostly the antagonistic ones such as the villainous teams and a few minor characters). [[User:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Patty</span>]][[User talk:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Man</span>]] 19:46, 24 February 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Uhh, are you being serious? It would be like saying that {{a|Oblivious}} is Ash's Ability.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#AB0909">電</font><font color="#063A73">禅</font>]]<small>[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#fff" face="Tahoma"><span style="text-shadow:#000 0.2em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Den Zen</span></font>]]</small>''' 20:01, 24 February 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Yes, I am being serious about this. Some examples, Paul (prior to the sinnoh league) was told to stop being mean to Ash but he didn't care and continued IIRC. He also ignored Nurse Joy when she told him not to use Chimchar but did so anyway. Team Rocket were told to give Pikachu back to Ash but continued stealing him. [[User:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Patty</span>]][[User talk:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Man</span>]] 20:34, 24 February 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::I still think this page should only be about the game mechanic. We don't list every human [[friendship]] or [[drink]] from anime and manga. Also, anybody who doesn't obey Ash wouldn't count since ''"{{wp|Obedience (human behavior)|Obedience, in human behavior, is a form of "social influence in which a person yields to explicit instructions or orders from '''an authority figure'''"}}"''.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#AB0909">電</font><font color="#063A73">禅</font>]]<small>[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#fff" face="Tahoma"><span style="text-shadow:#000 0.2em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Den Zen</span></font>]]</small>''' 20:45, 24 February 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::Thanks for getting this cleared up. The obedience with the humans was somewhat similar to the Pokémon when it came to listening which was why I was wondering about it applying to humans as well. Lol on the part with Oblivious being Ash's Ability. [[User:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Patty</span>]][[User talk:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Man</span>]] 20:58, 24 February 2013 (UTC)<br />
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==Obedience Check==<br />
In battles in which Exp. Points can be gained, if the Pokémon tries to attack, the Pokémon's 32-bit ID number, OT (Original Trainer) name, or both are different from those of the player, and its level is greater than the player's "badge level", then this process is followed to determine whether the attack can be used.<br />
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The badge level is determined based on the number of Badges the player has:<br />
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No badges: Badge level=10<br />
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Two or more badges: Badge level=30<br />
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Four or more badges: Badge level=50<br />
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Six or more badges: Badge level=70<br />
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Eight badges: No obedience check is done<br />
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A random number from 0 through 255 is generated, and A is set to ((Level of Pokémon)+(Badge level))*(Random number)/256.<br />
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If A is greater than or equal to the badge level, the Pokémon is disobedient. Otherwise, this process stops and the attack is used as usual.<br />
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If the Pokémon chose Rage for use, the effect of Rage is canceled.<br />
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If the attack is Snore or Sleep Talk while the Pokémon is asleep, display "X ignored orders while asleep!" and the attack is canceled.<br />
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Another random number from 0 through 255 is generated, and B is set to ((Level of Pokémon)+(Badge level))*(0~255)/256.<br />
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If B is less than the badge level, display the message "X ignored orders!" and the Pokémon uses a different move that can be chosen for use if possible. [If a different move is used this way, PP is spent for that different move instead of the move ordered, and the ordered move is still the last move chosen for use, but the different move can be the last move used as usual.]<br />
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If B is greater than or equal to the badge level, C is set to (Level of Pokémon)-(badge level), and R is set to a random number from 0 through 255.<br />
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If R is less than C and the Pokémon doesn't have Vital Spirit or Insomnia and Uproar is not in effect for a Pokémon in battle, display "X began to nap!" and the Pokémon falls asleep. (Not prevented by Safeguard, Substitute, Leaf Guard, or other effects that prevent the Pokémon from sleeping.)<br />
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Otherwise, if R minus C is less than C, display "X won't obey!" and the Pokémon deals confusion damage to itself.<br />
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Otherwise, display one of the following messages: "X won't obey!", "X turned away!", "X is loafing around!", "X pretended to not notice!".<br />
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No obedience check is done if the Pokémon is continuing to use Bide.<br />
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From [http://www.upokecenter.com/games/dp/guides/timing.php]<br />
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Similarly with the other games not called BW if you check out the other links<br />
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Why not include these? Only that I don't want a block if I am wrong<br />
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--[[User:Daniel Howard Fernandez|Daniel Howard Fernandez]] ([[User talk:Daniel Howard Fernandez|talk]]) 16:08, 30 March 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Pokemon World Tournament (and Battle Subway?) ==<br />
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I got the Team Plasma lvl 100 event Deoxys a couple of days ago, the same day I bought Pokemon White 2. When I started the game, Deoxys would never do what I told it to. Sometimes, though, it does actually listen to me. After hitting itself and falling asleep a couple of times first, that is. But when I entered the Pokemon World Tournament for the first time. It listened to me every single time, and won every battle in the competition. I don't believe it says anything about that... {{unsigned|EpicSeaPancake}}<br />
:It's possible that Pokémon won't disobey you inside battle facilities (and possibly during link battles). Best way to test this: using a hacked Mew in the Battle Frontier in Emerald, because hacked Mew always disobey you in Gen III. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 17:49, 2 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Raising traded Pokémon? ==<br />
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If you obtain a Pokémon through trading, and then raise it yourself, will it start to disobey you if it gets past the threshhold level for disobedience? For example, if you obtain a level 1 Pokémon through trading, before you have any badges, and raise it to level 20, still without any badges, will it start to disobey you, or will it keep obeying because you raised it yourself?{{unsigned|Bookwyrm1357}}<br />
:If it's obtained from a trade, it will disobey you when it passes the threshholds. [[User:Berrenta|Berrenta]] ([[User talk:Berrenta|talk]]) 02:29, 3 December 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Percentages... ==<br />
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What is the chance of one thing happening, over another? For example, in Gen IV, what is the chance of a Pokemon using a random move, and what is the percentage chance that it will nap instead? Is it completely random, or does it have something to do with the number of badges? Do we even KNOW the chances? --[[User:Phoenixon|Phoenixon]] ([[User talk:Phoenixon|talk]]) 18:35, 17 December 2013 (UTC)</div>Phoenixonhttps://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Phenomenon&diff=1924315Talk:Phenomenon2013-06-24T15:27:40Z<p>Phoenixon: /* I thought rippling water Pokemon only appeared [I]with[/I] the fishing rod? */</p>
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<div>==Names==<br />
I've seen various iterations throughout the wiki, so let's decide once and for all: is it "Shaking Spots" or "Shaking Patches"? [[User:Sidnoea|Sidnoea]] 21:36, 11 April 2011 (UTC)<br />
:From what we had seen, it was Shaking '''spots''', it's more general, but I'm not really sure. [[User:Masatoshi|<span style="color: #224a9a"><b><span style="color: #2b5fc7">M</span>asatoshi</b></span>]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|<span style="color: #118eb2"><sub><small>''talk''</small></sub></span>]] 21:43, 11 April 2011 (UTC)<br />
::Actually, these are the confirmed ones: '''Rustling Grass''', '''Dust Cloud''', '''Flying Pokémon's Shadow''', and '''Rippling Water'''. [[User:Masatoshi|<span style="color: #224a9a"><b><span style="color: #2b5fc7">M</span>asatoshi</b></span>]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|<span style="color: #118eb2"><sub><small>''talk''</small></sub></span>]] 21:58, 11 April 2011 (UTC)<br />
:::Just make sure that they are lowercase, so '''rustling grass''', '''dust cloud''', '''flying Pokémon's shadow''', and '''rippling water'''. But yes, these are the names w got from a magazine. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 01:01, 12 April 2011 (UTC)<br />
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==Occurrence==<br />
Has anyone looked into how phenomena occurs? All I've been able to gather so far is that it's step based and has some random element, like normal wild encounters. I don't know if the probability of phenomena occurring increases with more steps or if it's just entirely random though. I'm somewhat wiki retarded, so sorry if the talk page isn't the right place for this, or if it's not formatted well (and if it doesn't belong here, sorry, and certainly delete it). [[User:Omfgzergrush|Omfgzergrush]] 09:14, 16 April 2011 (UTC)<br />
:As far as I've experienced, it's entirely random. Sometimes it occurs within a handful of steps, sometimes it occurs after running around for a minute or two. --[[User:Zoen|Zoen]] 22:04, 16 April 2011 (UTC)<br />
::I'm actually fairly sure you don't even need to be moving to trigger it. I left my game sitting for about five minutes only to notice that a patch of grass had started shaking.--[[User:Skaisdead|Skaisdead]] ([[User talk:Skaisdead|talk]]) 09:54, 27 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Encounter List ==<br />
<br />
I noticed somebody's just copied the horribly incomplete encounter list from the beginning of the guide. I don't know how to insert it in the article, but here's a full one: [[User:Bluesun|Bluesun]] 17:01, 15 April 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Method<br><br />
Found in pre-credits areas<br />
--<br />
Found only in post-credits areas<br />
<br />
Walk<br><br />
Audino Musharna<br />
Panpour Pansage<br />
Pansear Cincinno<br />
Emonga Leafanny<br />
Unfheasant Stoutland<br />
Sock W/Throw B<br />
LilligantW/WhimsicottB<br />
Runiclus W/GothitelleB<br />
--<br />
Gliscor Tyranitar<br />
Wigglytuff Ninetales<br />
Crobat Tangrowth<br />
Clefable Mamoswine<br />
Metagross Sunflora<br />
Vespiquen<br />
MismagiusW/HonchkrowB<br />
ButterfreeW/BeedrillB<br />
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Surf<br><br />
Basculin W/Basculin B<br />
Alomolola Jellicent<br />
Seismitoad Stunfisk<br />
--<br />
Buoysel Flowsel<br />
Slowpoke Slowbro<br />
Slowking Corsola<br />
Mantine Lapras<br />
Wailmer Wailord<br />
Sealeo Walrein<br />
Staryu Starmie<br />
Seel Dewgong<br />
<br />
Fish<br><br />
Basculin W/Basculin B<br />
Feebas Milotic<br />
Goldeen Seaking<br />
Poliwhirl Poliwrath<br />
Politoed Relicanth<br />
Gorebyss W/Huntail B<br />
Kingler Luvdisc<br />
Chinchou Lanturn<br />
Seadra Kingdra<br />
Lumineon Qwilfish<br />
Barboach Whiscash<br />
Dratini Dragonair<br />
Dragonite Stunfisk<br />
--<br />
Shellder Cloyster<br />
Carvanha Sharpedo<br />
Octillery<br />
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== Item Encounters ==<br />
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Do the items that you get from the dust clouds differ from cave to cave? Because I've been burning through 450+ Super Repels trying to find one Fire Stone in the Giant Chasm and I've found more than one of every other stone except the Thunderstone and the aforementioned Fire Stone. I've also noticed I've been getting more Leaf Stones and Dusk Stones than the other stones. [[User:Porygon-man|Porygon-man]] 22:50, 8 June 2011 (UTC)<br />
:That'd be an interesting thing to look into. I've gotten a Sun Stone in Wellspring Cave. I wouldn't be surprised about your theory considering the Pokémon depends on the cave. This'll require some investigating! :P <sup>[[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup>[[User:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">Jo the Marten</span>]]<sup>[[Flygon (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup> [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">ಠ_ಠ</span>]][[Cilan (anime)|<span style="color:#90C870;">♥</span>]] 22:53, 8 June 2011 (UTC)<br />
I've found every item in dust clouds in every cave, so this discussion is futile. I'm checking per cave right now, but I'm sure that I'm not mistaken here.--[[User:Muk-a-matic|Muk-a-matic-Maketh the Muk go round...]] 23:08, 8 June 2011 (UTC)<br />
:Okay, I was running through Giant Chasm just now, and it gave me a Fire Stone in a dust cloud, and a Thunderstone in the next one. >_> Still, I wonder if the chances of getting an item vary from cave to cave or I'm just having bad luck. [[User:Porygon-man|Porygon-man]] 23:26, 8 June 2011 (UTC)<br />
I don't know how to add some to the list for dust clouds but they have oval stones in them as well--[[User:Ovidkid|Ovidkid]] 05:45, 11 June 2011 (UTC)<br />
:Regarding stone appearance rates, I just ran a little experiment. In Wellspring Cave, out of 100 dust clouds, I got 9 stones. However, 6 of these were Everstones, which seems a disproportionately high number (I also got a Sun Stone, Shiny Stone and Moon Stone). So I would suspect that appearance rate does vary between caves. We really need to look at the game data to prove this, though. [[User:Bikini Miltank|Bikini Miltank]] 14:26, 31 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Could someone add the Moon Stone to the list of Dust Cloud Items? ==<br />
Because I just got 2 in a row from them.(I'm bad at templating)K THNX BI.--[[User:Muk-a-matic|Muk-a-matic-Maketh the Muk go round...]] 21:16, 27 July 2011 (UTC)<br />
:I was reorganizing the table to look like it does on the [[Cave tile]] page, and I didn't realize I had removed it. I've fixed my mistake though. <sup>[[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup>[[User:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">Jo the Marten</span>]]<sup>[[Flygon (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup> [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">ಠ_ಠ</span>]][[Cilan (anime)|<span style="color:#90C870;">♥</span>]] 21:27, 27 July 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== A question ==<br />
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Does the "possible encounter" of rippling water means it's not fixed that one will face them or does that means that we can only face them on rare chances? [[User:Flygonfanno1|Flygonfanno1]]<br />
:Pokémon that are listed are the only ones that appear in rippling water; for example, Frillish is never encountered.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#AB0909">電</font><font color="#063A73">禅</font>]]<small>[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#fff" face="Tahoma"><span style="text-shadow:#000 0.2em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Den Zen</span></font>]]</small>''' 13:39, 2 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
::I know that too. My question was what does "Possible encounter" means? Does it mean we may or may not face it at all? [[User:Flygonfanno1|Flygonfanno1]]<br />
:::Well, when you encounter a Pokémon by any means, unless only one is available, you will encounter one from a list of several Pokémon, hence "possible". However, the Pokémon found by each phenomenon are different in each location (although often some are the same, such as Audino and Basculin). You can see which Pokémon can be found in each location on those location's pages. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 04:53, 3 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Phenomena distance ==<br />
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From moving around for ages and going through dozens of these, I think it's safe to say that phenomena occur inside of a 9x9 grid around your character, or anywhere within 4 steps horizontally and vertically. This means if you want to get a guaranteed phenomena in grass without having to run through additional grass and risk losing it to an encounter, take 4 steps away from the grass and run parallel to it. This is how I typically level up on Audinos on Route 13. --[[User:Zoen|Zoen]] 19:21, 11 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
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==Dust Cloud split for B2W2==<br />
Since the shards and the other items are found in separate locations I am thinking of splitting the shards into their own section since they are only found in places like Relic Passage and Reverse Mountain, while the rest are found at other caves.-[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] ([[User talk:Tyler53841|talk]]) 14:44, 17 October 2012 (UTC)<br />
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== Steelix ==<br />
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I added Steelix but the BW2 list edge is messed up. Someone please fix it. [[User:Shepeedy|Shepeedy]] ([[User talk:Shepeedy|talk]]) 17:22, 8 November 2012 (UTC)<br />
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== Walking with a partner ==<br />
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I've noticed that entering a phenomenon spot when an NPC is following you will trigger a double battle with Pokemon that are exclusive to the phenomenon. In Black 2, I encountered a wild double battle with two Excadrill as Bianca was following me. They very well could have been the exact same Pokemon, as they were both level 34 male. I'm not sure if this happens in BW. Is this worth noting anywhere? --[[User:Skaisdead|Skaisdead]] ([[User talk:Skaisdead|talk]]) 09:47, 27 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Mistake in Dust Clouds BW2 list ==<br />
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The list of available items in "Dust Clouds" for BW2 shows that only 14 out of 17 gems (missing bug, fighting and ice) and 9 out of 10 evolution stones (missing water stone) are possible to find. This is incorrect, after "hunting" for an hour to check it I have found all of the missing gems (bug, ice, fighting) but I couldn't find water stone so I am not sure about this one.<br />
I will change the list right now but without adding water stone, I would be very glad if somebody confirm if water stone is available or not. --[[User:Jasza676|Jasza676]] ([[User talk:Jasza676|talk]]) 16:20, 22 February 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Phenomena occurences ==<br />
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Can we get someone to confirm for sure whether Phenomena spawns are time-based or step-based? I've seen both opinions and it would be useful infomation for people who need dust clouds, because if it is time based then there is no reason to spend cash on repels. [[User:Whitsoxrule|Whitsoxrule]] ([[User talk:Whitsoxrule|talk]]) 20:26, 24 March 2013 (UTC)<br />
:They're step based. --[[User:Funktastic~!|<span style="color:#009900">'''It's'''</span> <span style="color:#CC66FF">'''Funktastic~!'''</span>]][[User talk:Funktastic~!|<sub><small><span style="color:#99CCFF">''話してください''</span></small></sub>]] 20:29, 24 March 2013 (UTC)<br />
::I know this was a couple months ago, but I just wanted to confirm it. I proced a Phenomena (using steps) and then left the game running for about 24 hours, it didn't go away. Walking back and forth in front of a couple patches of grass I can create one about every 120 secs or so. With no Phenomena nearby, I stood in the middle of a bunch of grass and left the game running for another 24 hours, when I came back there was no new Phenomena. Thus, can't be just time based as if they had appeared they wouldn't have gone away. Also, after creating almost 50x Phenomena over a couple hours, I can also confirm that they appear within an 11x11 grid around you. I think that this kind of information should be included on the main page, rather than people having to dig through the discussion section for it. [[User:Degrelecence|Degrelecence]] ([[User talk:Degrelecence|talk]]) 04:39, 17 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
::EDIT: I also forgot to mention, that using an emulator I proved (using save states) that the encounter is determined when the Phenomena is created, not once it is entered (not that it matters). [[User:Degrelecence|Degrelecence]] ([[User talk:Degrelecence|talk]]) 04:43, 17 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== I thought rippling water Pokemon only appeared with the fishing rod? ==<br />
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But it says it works with surfing too? --[[User:Phoenixon|Phoenixon]] ([[User talk:Phoenixon|talk]]) 15:25, 24 June 2013 (UTC)</div>Phoenixonhttps://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Phenomenon&diff=1924314Talk:Phenomenon2013-06-24T15:25:45Z<p>Phoenixon: /* I thought rippling water Pokemon only appeared [I]with[/I] the fishing rod? */ new section</p>
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<div>==Names==<br />
I've seen various iterations throughout the wiki, so let's decide once and for all: is it "Shaking Spots" or "Shaking Patches"? [[User:Sidnoea|Sidnoea]] 21:36, 11 April 2011 (UTC)<br />
:From what we had seen, it was Shaking '''spots''', it's more general, but I'm not really sure. [[User:Masatoshi|<span style="color: #224a9a"><b><span style="color: #2b5fc7">M</span>asatoshi</b></span>]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|<span style="color: #118eb2"><sub><small>''talk''</small></sub></span>]] 21:43, 11 April 2011 (UTC)<br />
::Actually, these are the confirmed ones: '''Rustling Grass''', '''Dust Cloud''', '''Flying Pokémon's Shadow''', and '''Rippling Water'''. [[User:Masatoshi|<span style="color: #224a9a"><b><span style="color: #2b5fc7">M</span>asatoshi</b></span>]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|<span style="color: #118eb2"><sub><small>''talk''</small></sub></span>]] 21:58, 11 April 2011 (UTC)<br />
:::Just make sure that they are lowercase, so '''rustling grass''', '''dust cloud''', '''flying Pokémon's shadow''', and '''rippling water'''. But yes, these are the names w got from a magazine. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 01:01, 12 April 2011 (UTC)<br />
<br />
==Occurrence==<br />
Has anyone looked into how phenomena occurs? All I've been able to gather so far is that it's step based and has some random element, like normal wild encounters. I don't know if the probability of phenomena occurring increases with more steps or if it's just entirely random though. I'm somewhat wiki retarded, so sorry if the talk page isn't the right place for this, or if it's not formatted well (and if it doesn't belong here, sorry, and certainly delete it). [[User:Omfgzergrush|Omfgzergrush]] 09:14, 16 April 2011 (UTC)<br />
:As far as I've experienced, it's entirely random. Sometimes it occurs within a handful of steps, sometimes it occurs after running around for a minute or two. --[[User:Zoen|Zoen]] 22:04, 16 April 2011 (UTC)<br />
::I'm actually fairly sure you don't even need to be moving to trigger it. I left my game sitting for about five minutes only to notice that a patch of grass had started shaking.--[[User:Skaisdead|Skaisdead]] ([[User talk:Skaisdead|talk]]) 09:54, 27 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Encounter List ==<br />
<br />
I noticed somebody's just copied the horribly incomplete encounter list from the beginning of the guide. I don't know how to insert it in the article, but here's a full one: [[User:Bluesun|Bluesun]] 17:01, 15 April 2011 (UTC)<br />
<br />
Method<br><br />
Found in pre-credits areas<br />
--<br />
Found only in post-credits areas<br />
<br />
Walk<br><br />
Audino Musharna<br />
Panpour Pansage<br />
Pansear Cincinno<br />
Emonga Leafanny<br />
Unfheasant Stoutland<br />
Sock W/Throw B<br />
LilligantW/WhimsicottB<br />
Runiclus W/GothitelleB<br />
--<br />
Gliscor Tyranitar<br />
Wigglytuff Ninetales<br />
Crobat Tangrowth<br />
Clefable Mamoswine<br />
Metagross Sunflora<br />
Vespiquen<br />
MismagiusW/HonchkrowB<br />
ButterfreeW/BeedrillB<br />
<br />
<br />
Surf<br><br />
Basculin W/Basculin B<br />
Alomolola Jellicent<br />
Seismitoad Stunfisk<br />
--<br />
Buoysel Flowsel<br />
Slowpoke Slowbro<br />
Slowking Corsola<br />
Mantine Lapras<br />
Wailmer Wailord<br />
Sealeo Walrein<br />
Staryu Starmie<br />
Seel Dewgong<br />
<br />
Fish<br><br />
Basculin W/Basculin B<br />
Feebas Milotic<br />
Goldeen Seaking<br />
Poliwhirl Poliwrath<br />
Politoed Relicanth<br />
Gorebyss W/Huntail B<br />
Kingler Luvdisc<br />
Chinchou Lanturn<br />
Seadra Kingdra<br />
Lumineon Qwilfish<br />
Barboach Whiscash<br />
Dratini Dragonair<br />
Dragonite Stunfisk<br />
--<br />
Shellder Cloyster<br />
Carvanha Sharpedo<br />
Octillery<br />
<br />
== Item Encounters ==<br />
<br />
Do the items that you get from the dust clouds differ from cave to cave? Because I've been burning through 450+ Super Repels trying to find one Fire Stone in the Giant Chasm and I've found more than one of every other stone except the Thunderstone and the aforementioned Fire Stone. I've also noticed I've been getting more Leaf Stones and Dusk Stones than the other stones. [[User:Porygon-man|Porygon-man]] 22:50, 8 June 2011 (UTC)<br />
:That'd be an interesting thing to look into. I've gotten a Sun Stone in Wellspring Cave. I wouldn't be surprised about your theory considering the Pokémon depends on the cave. This'll require some investigating! :P <sup>[[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup>[[User:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">Jo the Marten</span>]]<sup>[[Flygon (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup> [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">ಠ_ಠ</span>]][[Cilan (anime)|<span style="color:#90C870;">♥</span>]] 22:53, 8 June 2011 (UTC)<br />
I've found every item in dust clouds in every cave, so this discussion is futile. I'm checking per cave right now, but I'm sure that I'm not mistaken here.--[[User:Muk-a-matic|Muk-a-matic-Maketh the Muk go round...]] 23:08, 8 June 2011 (UTC)<br />
:Okay, I was running through Giant Chasm just now, and it gave me a Fire Stone in a dust cloud, and a Thunderstone in the next one. >_> Still, I wonder if the chances of getting an item vary from cave to cave or I'm just having bad luck. [[User:Porygon-man|Porygon-man]] 23:26, 8 June 2011 (UTC)<br />
I don't know how to add some to the list for dust clouds but they have oval stones in them as well--[[User:Ovidkid|Ovidkid]] 05:45, 11 June 2011 (UTC)<br />
:Regarding stone appearance rates, I just ran a little experiment. In Wellspring Cave, out of 100 dust clouds, I got 9 stones. However, 6 of these were Everstones, which seems a disproportionately high number (I also got a Sun Stone, Shiny Stone and Moon Stone). So I would suspect that appearance rate does vary between caves. We really need to look at the game data to prove this, though. [[User:Bikini Miltank|Bikini Miltank]] 14:26, 31 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Could someone add the Moon Stone to the list of Dust Cloud Items? ==<br />
Because I just got 2 in a row from them.(I'm bad at templating)K THNX BI.--[[User:Muk-a-matic|Muk-a-matic-Maketh the Muk go round...]] 21:16, 27 July 2011 (UTC)<br />
:I was reorganizing the table to look like it does on the [[Cave tile]] page, and I didn't realize I had removed it. I've fixed my mistake though. <sup>[[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup>[[User:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">Jo the Marten</span>]]<sup>[[Flygon (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup> [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">ಠ_ಠ</span>]][[Cilan (anime)|<span style="color:#90C870;">♥</span>]] 21:27, 27 July 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== A question ==<br />
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Does the "possible encounter" of rippling water means it's not fixed that one will face them or does that means that we can only face them on rare chances? [[User:Flygonfanno1|Flygonfanno1]]<br />
:Pokémon that are listed are the only ones that appear in rippling water; for example, Frillish is never encountered.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#AB0909">電</font><font color="#063A73">禅</font>]]<small>[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#fff" face="Tahoma"><span style="text-shadow:#000 0.2em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Den Zen</span></font>]]</small>''' 13:39, 2 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
::I know that too. My question was what does "Possible encounter" means? Does it mean we may or may not face it at all? [[User:Flygonfanno1|Flygonfanno1]]<br />
:::Well, when you encounter a Pokémon by any means, unless only one is available, you will encounter one from a list of several Pokémon, hence "possible". However, the Pokémon found by each phenomenon are different in each location (although often some are the same, such as Audino and Basculin). You can see which Pokémon can be found in each location on those location's pages. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 04:53, 3 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Phenomena distance ==<br />
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From moving around for ages and going through dozens of these, I think it's safe to say that phenomena occur inside of a 9x9 grid around your character, or anywhere within 4 steps horizontally and vertically. This means if you want to get a guaranteed phenomena in grass without having to run through additional grass and risk losing it to an encounter, take 4 steps away from the grass and run parallel to it. This is how I typically level up on Audinos on Route 13. --[[User:Zoen|Zoen]] 19:21, 11 October 2011 (UTC)<br />
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==Dust Cloud split for B2W2==<br />
Since the shards and the other items are found in separate locations I am thinking of splitting the shards into their own section since they are only found in places like Relic Passage and Reverse Mountain, while the rest are found at other caves.-[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] ([[User talk:Tyler53841|talk]]) 14:44, 17 October 2012 (UTC)<br />
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== Steelix ==<br />
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I added Steelix but the BW2 list edge is messed up. Someone please fix it. [[User:Shepeedy|Shepeedy]] ([[User talk:Shepeedy|talk]]) 17:22, 8 November 2012 (UTC)<br />
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== Walking with a partner ==<br />
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I've noticed that entering a phenomenon spot when an NPC is following you will trigger a double battle with Pokemon that are exclusive to the phenomenon. In Black 2, I encountered a wild double battle with two Excadrill as Bianca was following me. They very well could have been the exact same Pokemon, as they were both level 34 male. I'm not sure if this happens in BW. Is this worth noting anywhere? --[[User:Skaisdead|Skaisdead]] ([[User talk:Skaisdead|talk]]) 09:47, 27 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Mistake in Dust Clouds BW2 list ==<br />
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The list of available items in "Dust Clouds" for BW2 shows that only 14 out of 17 gems (missing bug, fighting and ice) and 9 out of 10 evolution stones (missing water stone) are possible to find. This is incorrect, after "hunting" for an hour to check it I have found all of the missing gems (bug, ice, fighting) but I couldn't find water stone so I am not sure about this one.<br />
I will change the list right now but without adding water stone, I would be very glad if somebody confirm if water stone is available or not. --[[User:Jasza676|Jasza676]] ([[User talk:Jasza676|talk]]) 16:20, 22 February 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Phenomena occurences ==<br />
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Can we get someone to confirm for sure whether Phenomena spawns are time-based or step-based? I've seen both opinions and it would be useful infomation for people who need dust clouds, because if it is time based then there is no reason to spend cash on repels. [[User:Whitsoxrule|Whitsoxrule]] ([[User talk:Whitsoxrule|talk]]) 20:26, 24 March 2013 (UTC)<br />
:They're step based. --[[User:Funktastic~!|<span style="color:#009900">'''It's'''</span> <span style="color:#CC66FF">'''Funktastic~!'''</span>]][[User talk:Funktastic~!|<sub><small><span style="color:#99CCFF">''話してください''</span></small></sub>]] 20:29, 24 March 2013 (UTC)<br />
::I know this was a couple months ago, but I just wanted to confirm it. I proced a Phenomena (using steps) and then left the game running for about 24 hours, it didn't go away. Walking back and forth in front of a couple patches of grass I can create one about every 120 secs or so. With no Phenomena nearby, I stood in the middle of a bunch of grass and left the game running for another 24 hours, when I came back there was no new Phenomena. Thus, can't be just time based as if they had appeared they wouldn't have gone away. Also, after creating almost 50x Phenomena over a couple hours, I can also confirm that they appear within an 11x11 grid around you. I think that this kind of information should be included on the main page, rather than people having to dig through the discussion section for it. [[User:Degrelecence|Degrelecence]] ([[User talk:Degrelecence|talk]]) 04:39, 17 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
::EDIT: I also forgot to mention, that using an emulator I proved (using save states) that the encounter is determined when the Phenomena is created, not once it is entered (not that it matters). [[User:Degrelecence|Degrelecence]] ([[User talk:Degrelecence|talk]]) 04:43, 17 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== I thought rippling water Pokemon only appeared [I]with[/I] the fishing rod? ==<br />
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But it says it works with surfing too? --[[User:Phoenixon|Phoenixon]] ([[User talk:Phoenixon|talk]]) 15:25, 24 June 2013 (UTC)</div>Phoenixonhttps://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Fletchling_(Pok%C3%A9mon)&diff=1921777Talk:Fletchling (Pokémon)2013-06-17T23:23:06Z<p>Phoenixon: </p>
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<div>== Flame Charge ==<br />
Yayakoma was revealed to be able to learn [[Flame Charge]]. Should that be added? [[User:MasterZ|MasterZ]] ([[User talk:MasterZ|talk]]) 23:00, 13 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
:No, because it is not known ''how'' it can learn it.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#AB0909">電</font><font color="#063A73">禅</font>]]<small>[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#fff" face="Tahoma"><span style="text-shadow:#000 0.2em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Den Zen</span></font>]]</small>''' 23:23, 13 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
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==Name Origin==<br />
Wouldn't it be more likely for Fletchling to be a combination of Fledgling and Hatchling than Fleching and Hatchling. A Fledgling is a young bird, and Fletchling is a basic Pokémon, also, I don't really see how the feathers on an arrow have anything to do with it's name. -[[User:IVsaur|<span style="color:lightbrown">EVs</span><small><span style="color:black">and</span></small><span style="color:green">IVsaurs</span>]] 13:54, 14 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
:It's the design of the tail that somewhat resembles arrow fletchings, but it could also be fledgeling. ''Ya'' is also arrow in Japanese, come to think of it. [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * the [[User talk:ArcToraphim|Arc]] [[Special:Contributions/ArcToraphim|Toraph]] 14:07, 14 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Hatchling doesn't really factor into it, if you ask me. It's a fairly obvious combination of "fledgling" and "fletching". The words sound very similar and both factor into the Pokemon's design: Fletchling is a baby bird (fledgling) with tail feathers resembling those of an arrow '''and''' a white arrowpoint-mark on its tail (fletching). The only part related to "hatchling" is the "ling" which is already covered by "fledgling", and since Fletchling can fly it is technically a fledgling anyway, not a hatchling. Plus, as ArcToraphim pointed out, the mention of arrows has been included in both its English and Japanese name, probably for reasons that will become more apparent when we see it in action or see its evolution(s). Also as an interesting note, "fletching" comes from the French word for "arrow", and the Kalos region is based on France. Food for thought. [[User:Togeknight|~Destruction on Wings~]] ([[User talk:Togeknight|talk]]) 16:58, 14 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
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==Physiology==<br />
Thought I'd write up a base paragraph now that we have clear art, battle screenshots, and gameplay footage. Feel free to use and edit.<br />
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"Fletchling is a small, avian Pokemon, similar in appearance to a robin. Its head is large compared to its body and is reddish-orange in coloration. It has thin, black beak and large, round eyes. The eyes are dark with a small white circle, and a yellow marking extends from the back of each eye in a small triangle shape. Fletchling's body is gray in color, and the boundary between the colors of its head and body is a sharp line except for a few gray, fluffy-looking feathers on its front. It has relatively long, spindly legs which are black like its beak. Each foot has two toes facing forward and one pointing backward. Fletchling's wings are white on the underside and their uppersides are gray except for the first two primary feathers, which are white. When it folds its wings, they are ovular in shape and appear all gray with only the two white feathers showing. Fletchling has a long tail which it holds cocked at an upward angle. The tail feathers are black with a white arrow-marking pointing forward. The overall shape of the tail resembles the fletching on an arrow, with two larger main feathers and a smaller feather at the base on each side."<br />
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[[User:Togeknight|~Destruction on Wings~]] ([[User talk:Togeknight|talk]]) 17:28, 14 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
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==Regional Bird?==<br />
I feel like this needs to be asked: is this thing a "regional bird"? And if so, would it be too assumptive to say it evolves? [[User:Dudey997|In '97, Dudley]] [[User_talk:Dudey997|didn't]] [[Special:Contributions/Dudey997|do right.]] 04:21, 16 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
:We won't know until it is revealed. And yes, it would be assumptive to say it evolves.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#025DA6">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#5A96C5">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EA1A3E">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#F16A81">ire</span>]] 04:24, 16 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Origin ==<br />
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Seeing as Fletchling is known to know Flame Charge, and is also a Robin, it is likely based off of the Flame Robin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flame_Robin), along with the Japanese Robin already on the page. {{unsigned|Dakar}}<br />
:That might be true, but the flame robin is way down in Australia. I would think developers would base Fletchling off something a bit more local and generic. [[User:Nuckles123|Nuckles123]] ([[User talk:Nuckles123|talk]]) 16:31, 17 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Also, we don't know if it knowing Flame Charge is anything special. Normal types may simply start becoming more diversified in the moves they can know via level up or TM, and what if Flame Charge is the only Fire move Fletchling can ever learn? Without knowing that, there isn't any connection at this point. [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * the [[User talk:ArcToraphim|Arc]] [[Special:Contributions/ArcToraphim|Toraph]] 16:42, 17 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::Yeah. Also the flame robin is only called that because of the red and orange coloring on its belly. A lot of robins are like that and i doubt it has little connection to any fire-type moves like Flame Charge. [[User:Nuckles123|Nuckles123]] ([[User talk:Nuckles123|talk]]) 17:33, 17 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Species name... ==<br />
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Is this the first time that the species name references a real world place (ie Japan)?<br />
I think it is, so should this be said in the trivia...? --[[User:Phoenixon|Phoenixon]] ([[User talk:Phoenixon|talk]]) 23:23, 17 June 2013 (UTC)</div>Phoenixonhttps://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Fletchling_(Pok%C3%A9mon)&diff=1921776Talk:Fletchling (Pokémon)2013-06-17T23:22:40Z<p>Phoenixon: /* Species name... */ new section</p>
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<div>== Flame Charge ==<br />
Yayakoma was revealed to be able to learn [[Flame Charge]]. Should that be added? [[User:MasterZ|MasterZ]] ([[User talk:MasterZ|talk]]) 23:00, 13 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
:No, because it is not known ''how'' it can learn it.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#AB0909">電</font><font color="#063A73">禅</font>]]<small>[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#fff" face="Tahoma"><span style="text-shadow:#000 0.2em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Den Zen</span></font>]]</small>''' 23:23, 13 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
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==Name Origin==<br />
Wouldn't it be more likely for Fletchling to be a combination of Fledgling and Hatchling than Fleching and Hatchling. A Fledgling is a young bird, and Fletchling is a basic Pokémon, also, I don't really see how the feathers on an arrow have anything to do with it's name. -[[User:IVsaur|<span style="color:lightbrown">EVs</span><small><span style="color:black">and</span></small><span style="color:green">IVsaurs</span>]] 13:54, 14 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
:It's the design of the tail that somewhat resembles arrow fletchings, but it could also be fledgeling. ''Ya'' is also arrow in Japanese, come to think of it. [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * the [[User talk:ArcToraphim|Arc]] [[Special:Contributions/ArcToraphim|Toraph]] 14:07, 14 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Hatchling doesn't really factor into it, if you ask me. It's a fairly obvious combination of "fledgling" and "fletching". The words sound very similar and both factor into the Pokemon's design: Fletchling is a baby bird (fledgling) with tail feathers resembling those of an arrow '''and''' a white arrowpoint-mark on its tail (fletching). The only part related to "hatchling" is the "ling" which is already covered by "fledgling", and since Fletchling can fly it is technically a fledgling anyway, not a hatchling. Plus, as ArcToraphim pointed out, the mention of arrows has been included in both its English and Japanese name, probably for reasons that will become more apparent when we see it in action or see its evolution(s). Also as an interesting note, "fletching" comes from the French word for "arrow", and the Kalos region is based on France. Food for thought. [[User:Togeknight|~Destruction on Wings~]] ([[User talk:Togeknight|talk]]) 16:58, 14 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
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==Physiology==<br />
Thought I'd write up a base paragraph now that we have clear art, battle screenshots, and gameplay footage. Feel free to use and edit.<br />
<br />
"Fletchling is a small, avian Pokemon, similar in appearance to a robin. Its head is large compared to its body and is reddish-orange in coloration. It has thin, black beak and large, round eyes. The eyes are dark with a small white circle, and a yellow marking extends from the back of each eye in a small triangle shape. Fletchling's body is gray in color, and the boundary between the colors of its head and body is a sharp line except for a few gray, fluffy-looking feathers on its front. It has relatively long, spindly legs which are black like its beak. Each foot has two toes facing forward and one pointing backward. Fletchling's wings are white on the underside and their uppersides are gray except for the first two primary feathers, which are white. When it folds its wings, they are ovular in shape and appear all gray with only the two white feathers showing. Fletchling has a long tail which it holds cocked at an upward angle. The tail feathers are black with a white arrow-marking pointing forward. The overall shape of the tail resembles the fletching on an arrow, with two larger main feathers and a smaller feather at the base on each side."<br />
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[[User:Togeknight|~Destruction on Wings~]] ([[User talk:Togeknight|talk]]) 17:28, 14 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
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==Regional Bird?==<br />
I feel like this needs to be asked: is this thing a "regional bird"? And if so, would it be too assumptive to say it evolves? [[User:Dudey997|In '97, Dudley]] [[User_talk:Dudey997|didn't]] [[Special:Contributions/Dudey997|do right.]] 04:21, 16 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
:We won't know until it is revealed. And yes, it would be assumptive to say it evolves.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#025DA6">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#5A96C5">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EA1A3E">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#F16A81">ire</span>]] 04:24, 16 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Origin ==<br />
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Seeing as Fletchling is known to know Flame Charge, and is also a Robin, it is likely based off of the Flame Robin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flame_Robin), along with the Japanese Robin already on the page. {{unsigned|Dakar}}<br />
:That might be true, but the flame robin is way down in Australia. I would think developers would base Fletchling off something a bit more local and generic. [[User:Nuckles123|Nuckles123]] ([[User talk:Nuckles123|talk]]) 16:31, 17 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Also, we don't know if it knowing Flame Charge is anything special. Normal types may simply start becoming more diversified in the moves they can know via level up or TM, and what if Flame Charge is the only Fire move Fletchling can ever learn? Without knowing that, there isn't any connection at this point. [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * the [[User talk:ArcToraphim|Arc]] [[Special:Contributions/ArcToraphim|Toraph]] 16:42, 17 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::Yeah. Also the flame robin is only called that because of the red and orange coloring on its belly. A lot of robins are like that and i doubt it has little connection to any fire-type moves like Flame Charge. [[User:Nuckles123|Nuckles123]] ([[User talk:Nuckles123|talk]]) 17:33, 17 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Species name... ==<br />
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Is this the first time that the species name references a real world place (ie Japan?<br />
I think it is, so should this be said in the trivia...?</div>Phoenixonhttps://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Fairy_(type)&diff=1918895Talk:Fairy (type)2013-06-13T00:41:13Z<p>Phoenixon: /* Retcon? */</p>
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== Confirmed Fairy-types ==<br />
Aside from Sylveon as the first pure Fairy-type, Pokecom.com has confirmed that Gardevoir is now Psychic/Fairy, Marill is Water/Fairy and Jigglypuff in Normal/Fairy.<br />
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http://www.pokemonxy.com/en-us/whats_new/fairy_type/<br />
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Worth adding to this page their respective pages, ''ja''? [[User:NP Chilla|NP Chilla]] ([[User talk:NP Chilla|talk]]) 15:46, 11 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
: We're working our fastest to update the pages and bring them to standard, I can guarentee you this page is being worked on by a staff member and if you will check the Pokemon pages you will see the work has started, it has only just been announced, give us a chance to do the work, and do it right. --[[User:Spriteit|Spriteit]] ([[User talk:Spriteit|talk]]) 15:51, 11 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Surely it's safe to assume that Azurill, Azumarill, Igglybuff, and Wigglytuff are fairy types as well? And with a name like Clefairy, it, Cleffa and Clefable are obvious candidates as well. [[User:Digifiend|Digifiend]] ([[User talk:Digifiend|talk]])<br />
:::Well for Azurill, it's not even a Water type so there's no reason to assume it's going to get the Fairy type as well. It'd be better not to assume anything. --[[User:Funktastic~!|<span style="color:#009900">'''It's'''</span> <span style="color:#CC66FF">'''Funktastic~!'''</span>]][[User talk:Funktastic~!|<sub><small><span style="color:#99CCFF">''話してください''</span></small></sub>]] 19:01, 11 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::Definitely agree until more official details are confirmed, and maybe if people try editing those pages then they should be protected to protect against speculation. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] ([[User talk:Tyler53841|talk]]) 19:13, 11 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::::I believe most of them are already protected, so that won't be a problem. --[[User:Funktastic~!|<span style="color:#009900">'''It's'''</span> <span style="color:#CC66FF">'''Funktastic~!'''</span>]][[User talk:Funktastic~!|<sub><small><span style="color:#99CCFF">''話してください''</span></small></sub>]] 19:16, 11 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Nitpicking ==<br />
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This is just nitpicking but the colour you used to represent gen 6 on the "list of pokemon with cross generational evolutions" is different from the type you used to represent gen 6 on the new moves. Stay consistent please :( [[User:0danmaster0|0danmaster0]] ([[User talk:0danmaster0|talk]]) 16:20, 11 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Redirect ==<br />
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Add a redirect to this page from "fairy type." [[User:LordArceus|<span style="color:#FF0000">'''Lord'''</span>]][[User talk:LordArceus|<span style="color:#FF0000">'''Arc'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/LordArceus|<span style="color:#FF0000">'''eus'''</span>]] 18:41, 11 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Retyping notice ==<br />
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Following the style for other people that have been retyped, Magnemite/Magneton and Rotom's alternate forms, shouldn't all Pokémon retyped to Fairy have a little marker next to them indicating that this typing only applies to Gen VI onwards?<br />
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e.g. <nowiki>{{tt|*|Generation VI onwards}}</nowiki> which should comes out as: {{tt|*|Generation VI onwards}}<br><br />
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I would add it myself but I'm not an autoconfirmed user. - [[User:Tasty Salamanders|Tasty Salamanders]] ([[User talk:Tasty Salamanders|talk]]) 23:03, 11 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Other type interactions ==<br />
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We can't say for sure yet, but Fairy appears to also be either neutral or super-effective against Flying, since it hits for super-effective on Salamence. Just thought I'd put this here for later reference. [[User:Skarthe|Skarthe]] ([[User talk:Skarthe|talk]]) 23:40, 11 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
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: The same goes for Dark, since it's super effective against Hydreigon. --<span style="font-family:Impact">[[User:Goldenpelt|<span style="color:#D4AF37">Gοlden</span>]][[User talk:Goldenpelt|<span style="color:#C0C0C0">pelt</span>]]</span> 22:34, 12 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Number ==<br />
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I noticed the number of Fairy-types was not updated right away. Why don't we use a template to count them? <nowiki>{{#expr: {{PAGESINCATEGORY:Fairy-type Pokémon}}}}</nowiki> The same should probably be done for the other types too. [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] <sup>([[User_talk:TorchicBlaziken|talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/TorchicBlaziken|edits]])</sup> 00:11, 13 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Retcon? ==<br />
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We don't know if they were ''actually'' retconned yet, do we? There could be some lame in-game excuse....--[[User:Phoenixon|Phoenixon]] ([[User talk:Phoenixon|talk]]) 00:41, 13 June 2013 (UTC)</div>Phoenixonhttps://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Fairy_(type)&diff=1918894Talk:Fairy (type)2013-06-13T00:40:47Z<p>Phoenixon: /* Retcon? */ new section</p>
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<div><br />
== Confirmed Fairy-types ==<br />
Aside from Sylveon as the first pure Fairy-type, Pokecom.com has confirmed that Gardevoir is now Psychic/Fairy, Marill is Water/Fairy and Jigglypuff in Normal/Fairy.<br />
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http://www.pokemonxy.com/en-us/whats_new/fairy_type/<br />
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Worth adding to this page their respective pages, ''ja''? [[User:NP Chilla|NP Chilla]] ([[User talk:NP Chilla|talk]]) 15:46, 11 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
: We're working our fastest to update the pages and bring them to standard, I can guarentee you this page is being worked on by a staff member and if you will check the Pokemon pages you will see the work has started, it has only just been announced, give us a chance to do the work, and do it right. --[[User:Spriteit|Spriteit]] ([[User talk:Spriteit|talk]]) 15:51, 11 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Surely it's safe to assume that Azurill, Azumarill, Igglybuff, and Wigglytuff are fairy types as well? And with a name like Clefairy, it, Cleffa and Clefable are obvious candidates as well. [[User:Digifiend|Digifiend]] ([[User talk:Digifiend|talk]])<br />
:::Well for Azurill, it's not even a Water type so there's no reason to assume it's going to get the Fairy type as well. It'd be better not to assume anything. --[[User:Funktastic~!|<span style="color:#009900">'''It's'''</span> <span style="color:#CC66FF">'''Funktastic~!'''</span>]][[User talk:Funktastic~!|<sub><small><span style="color:#99CCFF">''話してください''</span></small></sub>]] 19:01, 11 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::Definitely agree until more official details are confirmed, and maybe if people try editing those pages then they should be protected to protect against speculation. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] ([[User talk:Tyler53841|talk]]) 19:13, 11 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::::I believe most of them are already protected, so that won't be a problem. --[[User:Funktastic~!|<span style="color:#009900">'''It's'''</span> <span style="color:#CC66FF">'''Funktastic~!'''</span>]][[User talk:Funktastic~!|<sub><small><span style="color:#99CCFF">''話してください''</span></small></sub>]] 19:16, 11 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Nitpicking ==<br />
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This is just nitpicking but the colour you used to represent gen 6 on the "list of pokemon with cross generational evolutions" is different from the type you used to represent gen 6 on the new moves. Stay consistent please :( [[User:0danmaster0|0danmaster0]] ([[User talk:0danmaster0|talk]]) 16:20, 11 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
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Add a redirect to this page from "fairy type." [[User:LordArceus|<span style="color:#FF0000">'''Lord'''</span>]][[User talk:LordArceus|<span style="color:#FF0000">'''Arc'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/LordArceus|<span style="color:#FF0000">'''eus'''</span>]] 18:41, 11 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
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Following the style for other people that have been retyped, Magnemite/Magneton and Rotom's alternate forms, shouldn't all Pokémon retyped to Fairy have a little marker next to them indicating that this typing only applies to Gen VI onwards?<br />
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e.g. <nowiki>{{tt|*|Generation VI onwards}}</nowiki> which should comes out as: {{tt|*|Generation VI onwards}}<br><br />
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I would add it myself but I'm not an autoconfirmed user. - [[User:Tasty Salamanders|Tasty Salamanders]] ([[User talk:Tasty Salamanders|talk]]) 23:03, 11 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Other type interactions ==<br />
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We can't say for sure yet, but Fairy appears to also be either neutral or super-effective against Flying, since it hits for super-effective on Salamence. Just thought I'd put this here for later reference. [[User:Skarthe|Skarthe]] ([[User talk:Skarthe|talk]]) 23:40, 11 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
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: The same goes for Dark, since it's super effective against Hydreigon. --<span style="font-family:Impact">[[User:Goldenpelt|<span style="color:#D4AF37">Gοlden</span>]][[User talk:Goldenpelt|<span style="color:#C0C0C0">pelt</span>]]</span> 22:34, 12 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Number ==<br />
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I noticed the number of Fairy-types was not updated right away. Why don't we use a template to count them? <nowiki>{{#expr: {{PAGESINCATEGORY:Fairy-type Pokémon}}}}</nowiki> The same should probably be done for the other types too. [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] <sup>([[User_talk:TorchicBlaziken|talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/TorchicBlaziken|edits]])</sup> 00:11, 13 June 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Retcon? ==<br />
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We don't know if they were ''actually'' retconned yet, do we? There could be some lame in-game excuse....</div>Phoenixonhttps://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Pok%C3%A9mon_X_and_Y&diff=1911129Talk:Pokémon X and Y2013-05-30T20:52:15Z<p>Phoenixon: /* Ken Sugimori */ new section</p>
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== Titles missing "Version"? ==<br />
Do the titles include "version" this time? I'm not seeing it on the official site or the trailer. I think they're just called Pokemon X and Pokemon Y now. [[User:Hheebo|Hheebo]] ([[User talk:Hheebo|talk]]) 14:17, 8 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Pokémon X and Y "Versions"? ==<br />
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Is it right to be calling them Pokemon X Version and Pokemon Y version? Unlike previous games Nintendo hasn't used the word "version" when referring to them by name, just calling them Pokemon X and Pokemon Y rather than, to use the most recent example, "Pokemon Black Version 2" and "Pokemon White Version 2". The logos don't contain the word "version" either. I think they should simply be referred to as Pokemon X and Y.<br />
EDIT: Ninja'd by Hheebo. Delete if necessary.<br />
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:I second this. "Versions" hasn't been mentioned at all, nor are contained in the logos. If "Versions" were in the title, there's usually a habit of saying it every time the game title comes up. It's misleading to list the article as it being called "X and Y ''Versions''" if there really isn't any facts backing that up. --[[User:Manaphy1|Manaphy1]] 16:20, 8 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Thirded. It should be [[Pokémon X and Y]], as I stated on [[Pokémon Black and White Versions 2]]'s trivia section. Please rename this page and change this article and the Generation VI one accordingly. [[User:Digifiend|Digifiend]] ([[User talk:Digifiend|talk]]) 17:15, 8 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::Fourthed. Every other main series entry has had "version" on it, this is different in all languages. This should be reflected in the title of the page. {{unsigned|NP Chilla}}<br />
::::[http://www.thesixthaxis.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/PokemonXY8-1024x640.jpg Here]. Enjoy. [[User:Masatoshi|<span style="color: #224a9a"><b><span style="color: #2b5fc7">M</span>asatoshi</b></span>]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|<span style="color: #118eb2"><sub><small>''talk''</small></sub></span>]] 18:00, 8 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::::That seems to be a screenshot from Nintendo3DS's video. The official Pokémon channel uploaded the same trailer, and they don't use the word Version, and they're strict with that word, putting it in all Black Version 1 and White Version 1 videos. <span style="font-family:AR DARLING; font-size:12pt">[[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="maroon">'''Ultimatum'''</font>]]</span> 19:31, 8 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::::The same video is also on Pokemon.com, without the word "Version." I fifth the notion that it should be struck from here, because it doesn't appear to be in any official media. --[[User:The Great Butler|The Great Butler]] ([[User talk:The Great Butler|talk]]) 02:40, 9 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::::::I think it would be a good idea to move it to [[Pokémon X and Y]], 'cause it doesn't even say the name "version" in the title. In previous games, the official sources have said "Pokémon [title] Version" only if it has the word "version in the logo. These games are different, they don't have "version" in the title at all, so I really wouldn't see any reason to have it titled "Pokémon X and Y Versions".—[[User:Platinum Lucario|Platinum Lucario]] ([[User talk:Platinum Lucario|talk]]) 10:29, 9 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::::::I would like to agree with the page move as well, but I really can't say until there is more usage of just "Pokemon X and Y" an not "Pokemon X version and Pokemon Y version". I am undecided since I've seen Pokémon Direct recordings with the word "version" in it (like in the picture posted by Masatoshi), but everything else points to just calling it [[Pokémon X and Y]]. - <span style="background:#96EAFF;border: 1px solid#0000FF">''[[User:Vhayes1992|<b style="color:#FF0000">Vhayes</b>]]<small><sup style="color:#00027F">1992</sup></small>''</span> 23:38, 9 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:The official press release repeatedly lists the trademarked titles as ''Pokémon X'' and ''Pokémon Y'' and never uses the term "Version." Excerpt: "''Pokémon X'' and ''Pokémon Y'' will be the blueprint for an exciting array of new animation, Pokémon TCG, and toys debuting around the world."<br />
:In all of their press releases for other games in the series they use "Version," for example this excerpt from the B2W2 press release: "The successors to the acclaimed ''Pokémon Black Version'' and ''Pokémon White Version'' games, ''Pokémon Black Version 2'' and ''Pokémon White Version 2''..."<br />
:So it seems pretty obvious that it should be moved to "Pokémon X and Y."[[User:AmaranthSparrow|AmaranthSparrow]] ([[User talk:AmaranthSparrow|talk]]) 21:40, 9 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Heck, even Pokémon.com reads "''An all-new 3D Pokémon adventure packed with never-before-seen Pokémon will launch worldwide in October 2013. '''Pokémon X''' and '''Pokémon Y''' will present a new generation of Pokémon, and introduce players to an exciting new adventure in a breathtaking 3D world.''" Could an admin PLEASE hurry up and move the name of this page? <span style="font-family:Estrangelo Edessa; font-size:12pt">[[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="maroon">'''Ultimatum'''</font>]]</span> 23:25, 9 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::By moving the page, not only would {{template|v}}, {{template|2v}}, {{template|2v2}}, and {{template|game}} have to be edited (besides the fact that they are all massively used) but [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Special:WhatLinksHere/Pok%C3%A9mon_X_and_Y_Versions&limit=500 every single page] that links here would also have to be edited. There's also {{template|PokémonInfobox}}, which is only used on '''over 650 pages'''. Templates on the Archives would also have to be changed. <!--Unless you want the unprofessional redirect sign appearing all the time.-->--[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 23:44, 9 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::I'm against moving this page, at the very least until further information is available. "Version" is part of what separates the main series for games like Stadium, XD, and the like. Furthermore, there is at least some evidence that these games are still titled "X Version" and "Y Version" as seen in the picture Masa posted. It seems to me like the company is merely advertising the game in this manner because this is how the fandom always refers to the games, that is, without the word "version". Furthermore, this is probably simpler since it saves them the trouble of having to write "version" in several different languages all at once (remember, this is getting an instant worldwide release, and "Pokemon" is pretty universal while "version" isn't). We should at least wait a while before moving the page, and then having to move it back again. [[User:Crystal Talian|<span style="color:#9F00C5">Crystal</span>]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|<span style="color:#FF00FF">Talian</span>]] 23:49, 9 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::::Just to clarify, Masatoshi's image wasn't official; the official trailer doesn't have that banner on it, nor refers to them at all as having "Versions". As for the templates, they don't appear hard to edit in a change if you use "if switches". --[[User:Manaphy1|Manaphy1]] 00:53, 10 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::::Just to clarify, "#if:" switches work differently than "#switch:"es. Don't worry though, it'll only cause the servers to fail like when {{template|roundy}} used them.--[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 01:08, 10 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::::His image was official. [http://www.nintendo.nl/Divers/Nintendo-Direct/Laatstse-Nintendo-Direct/Nintendo-Direct-698557.html This] is official straight from Nintendo's website. It says "version". This is why I am sort of reserving a conclusion and doing a wait and see. - <span style="background:#96EAFF;border: 1px solid#0000FF">''[[User:Vhayes1992|<b style="color:#FF0000">Vhayes</b>]]<small><sup style="color:#00027F">1992</sup></small>''</span> 02:16, 10 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Where? From what I can see, it calls them Polémon X (lol, presumably a typo) and Pokémon Y. [[User:Digifiend|Digifiend]] ([[User talk:Digifiend|talk]]) 03:48, 10 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
::'''The video.''' --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 03:49, 10 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::Seems more likely to be some sort of mistake, given that the other videos don't feature that and the press release specifically omits the word. Anyway, I have contacted Nintendo regarding the title of the games, and will wait to see what they have to say about it. --[[User:Dorsal Axe|Dorsal Axe]] ([[User talk:Dorsal Axe|talk]]) 17:14, 10 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::[http://www.nintendo.co.uk/Misc-/Nintendo-Direct/2013/Pokemon-Direct-08-01-2013/Nintendo-Direct-699626.html What about the Nintendo's UK website?] --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 21:46, 10 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::::All of the official Nintendo websites, including even the Pokémon website clearly state it as '''Pokémon X''' and '''Pokémon Y'''. There is '''no''' official Nintendo website that calls them "Pokémon X Version" and "Pokémon Y Version".—[[User:Platinum Lucario|Platinum Lucario]] ([[User talk:Platinum Lucario|talk]]) 08:19, 11 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::::The point is that in the official Pokémon Direct announcement it is present. Every other main series game has it, and in the official announcement (which is on official Nintendo websites) it uses it. Until we get boxart, we should follow what we have been given. It is very commonplace to drop "version" when talking about the titles (Iwata did it himself in the Pokémon Direct video, while "version" was shown on the screen). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 08:38, 11 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Okay, [http://i.imgur.com/9ANSo.png Nintendo got back to me]. According to them, it's just "Pokémon X" and "Pokémon Y", and they go on to mention that whatever the website says is the "current" and most up-to-date official source. (and I must say, I'm impressed with how quickly they responded :p). --[[User:Dorsal Axe|Dorsal Axe]] ([[User talk:Dorsal Axe|talk]]) 13:36, 11 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Then they forgot to remove the Version thing in the video. This seems solid enough for us. We would be moving this page to '''[[Pokémon X and Y]]''' and doing all necessary changes soon (not before letting the rest of the staff know). [[User:Masatoshi|<span style="color: #224a9a"><b><span style="color: #2b5fc7">M</span>asatoshi</b></span>]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|<span style="color: #118eb2"><sub><small>''talk''</small></sub></span>]] 14:32, 11 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::Upon further discussion, we decided to put the moving on hold until we make sure of some stuff related to TPCi. It's still strange that after 15 years, they decide to drop "Version" just like that. [[User:Masatoshi|<span style="color: #224a9a"><b><span style="color: #2b5fc7">M</span>asatoshi</b></span>]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|<span style="color: #118eb2"><sub><small>''talk''</small></sub></span>]] 16:49, 11 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::Aww, can't you please move the page already? It's already been confirmed by Nintendo that it's called simply '''Pokémon X''' and '''Pokémon Y''', it even says that in the official '''logos''' of the trailer and official website of http://www.pokemon.com/pokemonxy/en-us/ that it's only called Pokémon X and Pokémon Y. What do you think? Do you really think it's going to change just to the way you think it's going to be? I'm afraid you're just not used to change, and I understand it takes us a while to adapt to change. ^^—[[User:Platinum Lucario|Platinum Lucario]] ([[User talk:Platinum Lucario|talk]]) 04:38, 15 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::::It has nothing to do with being afraid of change. We needed to be absolutely sure, which is why they've put it off so far. '''[[Team Rocket|<small><span style="color: #550000;">R.A.</span></small>]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Hunter</font></small>]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Blade</font></small>]]''' 05:22, 15 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::::I'm sure we have had plenty of proof that it is simply Pokémon X and Pokémon Y, having known that http://www.pokemon.com/pokemonxy/en-us/ is an '''official source''' that comes from the '''official''' Pokémon website. That website alone is enough to make you absolutely sure that it really is '''official'''. ;) —[[User:Platinum Lucario|Platinum Lucario]] ([[User talk:Platinum Lucario|talk]]) 14:47, 17 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
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==New region==<br />
In this article it states that the new region is likely based off of France but the [[Generation VI]] page says it draws inspiration from various points within Europe. The pages should be more consistent and more neutral about the subject. [[User: Ariano|Արիանո]] 14:50, 8 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
* The Nintendo Direct Trailer begins with Pikachu atop the Eiffel Tower. Unova draws from inspirations outside of the strict real world New York; it's not conflicting to say it's both based on France and draws inspiration from the rest of Europe. <br />
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== Trivia to be added, I believe... ==<br />
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A bit of trivia to be added:<br />
*These are the first main series games to have letters in the title rather than color names.<br />
*The game titles may be named after the X and Y axes of the [[wp:Cartesian coordinate system|Cartesian coordinations]]. ~~<font face="Verdana">'''''[[User:LDEJRuff|LDE]][[User talk:LDEJRuff|JRuff]]'''''</font>~~ 10:04, 8 January, 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Given that the Japanese logos clearly have DNA helixes in them, I think it's safe to say that they were going for genetics. Not coordinates. <sup>[[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup>[[User:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">Jo the Marten</span>]]<sup>[[Flygon (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup> [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">ಠ_ಠ</span>]][[Cilan (anime)|<span style="color:#90C870;">♥</span>]] 15:10, 8 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Why not both? --[[User:Dorsal Axe|Dorsal Axe]] ([[User talk:Dorsal Axe|talk]]) 15:23, 8 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::Because the Japanese logos have DNA helixes in them so they are standing for genetics, not coordinates. It was made pretty clear by Jo. [[User:Rainbow Shifter|Rainbow Shifter]] ([[User talk:Rainbow Shifter|talk]]) 17:09, 8 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
They're obviously named after the x and y chromosomes, not coordinates. [[User:Munlax|Munlax]] ([[User talk:Munlax|talk]]) 17:14, 8 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::Could it not be a double meaning? [[User:Digifiend|Digifiend]] ([[User talk:Digifiend|talk]]) 17:16, 8 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::::And what makes you think it's coordinates? For all I know, we could also use algebraic expressions. So far, Jo's bet is the safest. Since it has helixes that resemble a DNA string, it's unlikely to have been based in coordinates. [[User:Masatoshi|<span style="color: #224a9a"><b><span style="color: #2b5fc7">M</span>asatoshi</b></span>]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|<span style="color: #118eb2"><sub><small>''talk''</small></sub></span>]] 17:19, 8 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::::It's obviously based on Genetics, but Gamefreak and Nintendo love puns. X axis and Y axis. If the third legendary forms a Z shape, then I think it's safe to say that it's also partially a stealth 3DS pun --[[User:Shadowater|Shadowater]] ([[User talk:Shadowater|talk]]) 20:26, 8 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Why would it be based off coordinates anyway? It makes more sense to have them based off genetics seeming as you breed Pokemon in the game. And no, it has been said numerous times: The Japanese logos have '''DNA''' helixes in them. End of story. [[User:Rainbow Shifter|Rainbow Shifter]] ([[User talk:Rainbow Shifter|talk]]) 17:23, 8 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::That doesn't really discount the other reasoning. You may notice the logo is also in 3D text (which they've never done for a logo before), which would indicate to me that they're going for a double entendre with the titles. --[[User:Dorsal Axe|Dorsal Axe]] ([[User talk:Dorsal Axe|talk]]) 17:41, 8 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::::::I thought it was to do with the buttons on the DS and 3DS consoles, shows what I know...[[User:TurtleLover1999|TurtleLover1999]] ([[User talk:TurtleLover1999|talk]]) 20:31, 8 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
More trivia for your perusal: They'll be the first main series games to be released simultaneously worldwide, and "Pokemon X" was the original name for both Lugia and Pokemon Crystal. '''<span style="color:#00AB47;">[[User:Luigi-San|Luigi-San]]</span>''' 22:10, 8 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::::::I agree about the released simultaneously worldwide as I was planning to suggest that myself. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] ([[User talk:Tyler53841|talk]]) 02:13, 9 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::::I don't think that the genetic base is so obvious, that thing in the logo can mean a lot of things. Also the coordinates reasoning in the first 3-'''dimentional''' game on a '''3D'''S is supported by the fact that Yveltal is flying while Xerneas is on the ground, like the axes. Can't be a coincidence. However save this geneticVSgeometic debate til we know if there is any Z Pokemon. It would kill the genetic theory and support the coordinates one. --[[User:Tano|Tano]] ([[User talk:Tano|talk]]) 20:22, 12 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::::::The fact that one flies and the other one roams the land does not mean they are based in coordinates or spacial axes, it CAN be a coincidence. The DNA string is heavily implied in the Japanese logo and supports the theory, while the axial theory only has a "What if the third version is Z?" as its support, and the fact that Xerneas runs horizontally (Even diagonally when it jumps!) and Yveltal flies (although horizontally, vertically, diagonally, you name it). [[User:Masatoshi|<span style="color: #224a9a"><b><span style="color: #2b5fc7">M</span>asatoshi</b></span>]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|<span style="color: #118eb2"><sub><small>''talk''</small></sub></span>]] 20:35, 12 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::::::They would have been pretty stupid if they made them able to move only horizontally or vertically, and unable to jump. What kind of argument is that? The point is that the X axis on a graph goes across, the Y axis goes up, and is the Y Pokemon that flies, while the X pokemon is on the ground, not the opposite. However, ''as I said'', we should wait. I'm not saying that the coordinates theory is the right one (well, that's my intuition), but I don't think you have any proof to say for sure that they're related to chromosomes either, except a small low definition detail on the logo that could be anything. I can totally see a Z pokemon related to stereo3D coming. It's almost impossible that they'll do nothing to use the 3D function of the console. —[[User:Tano|Tano]] ([[User talk:Tano|talk]]) 21:14, 12 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
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==Based off France?==<br />
To suggest the region will 'likely' be based on France seems to be speculation of the sort that the banner of the top forbids, Tokyo also has a structure like the Eiffel Tower. [[User:Alexsau1991|Alexsau1991]] ([[User talk:Alexsau1991|talk]]) 17:12, 8 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:The streets have an European-like setting; Pikachu spread his message from a location that seemed to be the same as France; that tower looks like the Eiffel Tower and it seems to use gray instead of white and red. While it's not confirmed, it is plausible that the region might be based in France. [[User:Masatoshi|<span style="color: #224a9a"><b><span style="color: #2b5fc7">M</span>asatoshi</b></span>]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|<span style="color: #118eb2"><sub><small>''talk''</small></sub></span>]] 17:18, 8 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
::While it seems plausible, even likely. Isn't it still speculation? And why the entire region, rather than that particular city (I don't recall France having a desert, for example)? Castelia City in Black and White is said to be based off New York, yet the entire region isn't said to be based on the USA. [[User:Alexsau1991|Alexsau1991]] ([[User talk:Alexsau1991|talk]]) 17:23, 8 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::There's a big difference between the USA and France, the US is a massive country (in terms of size and little would be explored, if not ignoring plenty of cities). I for one think it ''may'' be based in Europe, but that city, along with that picture with the bridge remind me of the {{wp|Palace of Versailles}}. Most people seem to agree it might be based in Europe/France, so for the time being, we'll leave it like this. [[User:Masatoshi|<span style="color: #224a9a"><b><span style="color: #2b5fc7">M</span>asatoshi</b></span>]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|<span style="color: #118eb2"><sub><small>''talk''</small></sub></span>]] 17:50, 8 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Pikachu's pretty clearly shown on the Eiffel Tower, in a country in the general location that everyone expects France to be. --[[User:Dorsal Axe|Dorsal Axe]] ([[User talk:Dorsal Axe|talk]]) 18:05, 8 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::Regardless it is very blatant '''speculation''', of which this encyclopaedia has clearly warned it's editors of avoiding. Popular agreement is '''NOT''' ''"confirmation by a reliable source"''. What's the point in that rule, if your so keen on breaking it? [[User:Alexsau1991|Alexsau1991]] ([[User talk:Alexsau1991|talk]]) 18:41, 8 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::Yeah, I do agree that it's speculation right now. It's like when everybody put Kyurem as the third member of the Tao trio before it was confirmed, despite them arguing tooth and nail and out right refusing to allow Giratina to be stated as the third member of the Dragon trio before Platinum came out [[User:Shadowater|Shadowater]] ([[User talk:Shadowater|talk]]) 20:28, 8 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::::Exactly. It's really inconsistent. As an admin, it seems as if Masatoshi is going for a 'do as I say, not as I do'. You can't rule 'no speculation', then allow a piece that you favour, or personally find convincing. <br />
:::::Even if the Eiffel Tower could be considered more than speculation, how do we arrive at the fact the WHOLE region is based on France?.. It's conjecture after conjecture... [[User:Alexsau1991|Alexsau1991]] ([[User talk:Alexsau1991|talk]]) 01:04, 9 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::::In the trailer, Pikachu is seen on top of the Eiffel Tower. Literally. The camera zooms out and shows it in France. Saying the region is based on France is less of speculation, and more of an observation giving readers some idea what the region looks like. Rather than explaining every tiny little detail about the location, we can just blanket sweep it by saying, "It looks a lot like France." But obviously it's NOT France, cause Pokémon regions have almost never been real locations. (Sans Kanto. Kind of.) <sup>[[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup>[[User:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">Jo the Marten</span>]]<sup>[[Flygon (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup> [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">ಠ_ಠ</span>]][[Cilan (anime)|<span style="color:#90C870;">♥</span>]] 01:31, 9 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::::::I think it would be a good idea to forbid this from being posted for now until more conclusive proof is gathered by any means from official sources to verify this though it would be a very slim chance that any of this is true. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] ([[User talk:Tyler53841|talk]]) 02:16, 9 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::::::I should also point out that Junichi Masuda's current Twitter profile picture is him next to the Eiffel Tower and there is at least one message commenting on his trip to France. Possibly a coincidence, though it's hardly an argument against the region being based off France. - [[User:Blazios|<span style="color:navy">Blazios</span>]] [[User Talk:Blazios|<span style="color:limegreen"><sub>talk</sub></span>]] 02:23, 9 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::Texas has an Eiffel Tower. Japan has a Statue of Liberty too, but Japan isn't the first place you think of when you think of the Statue of Liberty, is it? Then don't even get me started on Las Vegas. Pikachu is in the real life France in the intro, the girl's attire seems very French to me personally, the Pokémon team went to France for "work related reasons". I don't really see anything pointing it away from France, and I'm done having this discussion. There are more important things to worry about. <sup>[[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup>[[User:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">Jo the Marten</span>]]<sup>[[Flygon (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup> [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">ಠ_ಠ</span>]][[Cilan (anime)|<span style="color:#90C870;">♥</span>]] 02:53, 9 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::huh. didn't know france had a desert. that city is obviously based on paris, but i have doubts on the entire region being based on france alone. just my 2cents, i could be wrong, but hey, speculation is speculation ;) [[User:Tarilaan|Tarilaan]] ([[User talk:Tarilaan|talk]]) 11:37, 9 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::::Pretty sure there's not a desert full of ancient ruins or mountain ranges in New York City, either, yet they're both in Unova. The game COULD be based in all of Europe, but so far we've only seen evidence of France. Saying the game "seems to be based on France" doesn't exclude the possibility of it also being based on other areas as well, in any case. --[[User:ACDragonMaster|ACDragonMaster]] ([[User talk:ACDragonMaster|talk]]) 02:54, 10 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Europe is the safest assumption til the game is released and we can tell for sure if it's France or more. No reason to rush guys, we don't have enough information. Even if all we have seen is from France (it's not), it still doesn't mean that there won't be any Pisa Tower or Berlin Wall or Roman Coliseum (that I'd very much like) in another footage. --[[User:Tano|Tano]] ([[User talk:Tano|talk]]) 20:25, 12 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Also the 2 legendaries "Xcalibur" and "Yvern" have a great European feeling more then French. –[[User:Tano|Tano]] ([[User talk:Tano|talk]]) 21:16, 12 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Exactly, we don't have enough information, so why should we jump to "it seems to be based on Europe" from the get-go? If anything, all evidence points to France (Eiffel tower, Versailles, Pikachu's location, Masuda's trip, etc.) It's still speculation, however, one way or the other.[[User:Gacs|Gacs]] ([[User talk:Gacs|talk]]) 08:02, 13 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::France is in Europe. I think it's a safe assumption. —[[User:Tano|Tano]] ([[User talk:Tano|talk]]) 10:17, 13 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::The page says Europe. I am putting an end to this discussion on Bulbapedia. If you wish to speculate more on the subject, take it to [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/f693/ the forums]. Subsequent messages will be removed, and blocks may be handed out. <sup>[[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup>[[User:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">Jo the Marten</span>]]<sup>[[Flygon (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup> [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">ಠ_ಠ</span>]][[Cilan (anime)|<span style="color:#90C870;">♥</span>]] 10:50, 13 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Region is based in France ==<br />
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Besides the obvious Eiffel Tower reference, I found out that the buildings shown are reminiscent of Paris's type (which was forced as an official style there) and additionally, the place Pikachu is giving the conference is Paris.<br />
I'm including the picture for future reference.<br />
[http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/large/714858374.png?key=25601440&Expires=1357683885&Key-Pair-Id=APKAIYVGSUJFNRFZBBTA&Signature=cMmYD40-9pvM7rc2~DneFwveDyESiYlke9L7VLrKMgbxx17yzOX7SfaL0oLKZUA~kRH4KcIMGYHdMDnfQ35-hhN50gESVjsub7Jbcpfstq2AhsJnHXQVj36ktl~N5qZLf9cNqzq71xKIMedbWhyydovcNqw3jd~j6ylnFaxcxh4_]<br />
--[[User:M.vit|M.vit]] ([[User talk:M.vit|talk]]) 22:09, 8 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:There's a section discussing that right above this one. Please join that conversation instead of starting a new section for the same thing. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">--Pokemaster</span>]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">97</span>]]''''' 22:15, 8 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Except South Korea ==<br />
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In the video, they only say "except select countries". --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 22:20, 8 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Xerneas and Yveltal ==<br />
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Pokemon.com just confirmed the names of the mascots: Bambi is called Xerneas and Tweety is called Yveltal. http://www.pokemon.com/pokemonxy/en-us/ [[User:NP Chilla|NP Chilla]] ([[User talk:NP Chilla|talk]]) 14:14, 9 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Interwiki ==<br />
Why don't you add the other lenguages? [http://wiki.pokemoncentral.it/Pok%C3%A9mon_X_e_Y Central Wiki], [http://www.pokewiki.de/Pok%C3%A9mon_X_und_Pok%C3%A9mon_Y PokéWiki], [http://poketeca.com/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_X_y_Y Pokéteca] ? --[[User:Zapdos96|Zapdos96]] ([[User talk:Zapdos96|talk]]) 18:02, 12 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Done. (Thanks for the reminder.) --[[User:神奇超龍|<font color="#2B547E">'''超龍'''</font>]]<sub><small>「'''[[User talk:神奇超龍|Chao]]'''」</small></sub> 18:09, 12 January 2013 (UTC)<br><br />
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== Name origin ==<br />
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According to Japanese websites, the X and Y refer to the chromosomes --[[User:Ext|Ext]] ([[User talk:Ext|talk]]) 18:18, 12 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Link to the source please. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 20:38, 12 January 2013 (UTC) <br />
:[http://blog.esuteru.com/archives/6852422.html]here at comment #1154 talking about the logo showing DNA. Also here [http://pokemonxy.jp/news/20130108/pokemon_dna.html] read the article. The logo on the article should be updated. --[[User:Ext|Ext]] ([[User talk:Ext|talk]]) 13:25, 17 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Error ==<br />
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It says "The first Pokémon '''to be released'''" when it should say "The first Pokémon '''revealed'''". &mdash;[[User:Clubchloe1|<span style="color:#025DA6;">'''Club'''</span>]][[User talk:Clubchloe1|<span style="color:#EA1A3E;">'''chloe1'''</span>]] 19:49, 14 February 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Bolero Time ==<br />
So are we going to completely ignore the fact that the male character is blatantly skating/roller-blading in the trailer? <br />
Twenty-six seconds in to the trailer. I mean, this is new game-play right? I'm mentioning it here because I know if I just go ahead and put it in I'll get loads of "well he might be using Surf or something" complaints because for some reason it's only worth adding if an admin happens to like it. So yeah. [[User:Me, Hurray!|Me, Hurray!]] ([[User talk:Me, Hurray!|talk]]) 22:52, 19 February 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== November 2, 2013 ==<br />
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Gamestop apparently lists the game's American release as Nov. 2nd, 2013? Is this true, and if so, wouldn't the article need to be updated to match it?--[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] ([[User talk:Darknesslover5000|talk]]) 05:38, 20 February 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Gamestop usually lists a incorrect date before a game comes out, so I wouldn't worry about updating the page. --[[User:Funktastic~!|<span style="color:#009900">'''It's'''</span> <span style="color:#CC66FF">'''Funktastic~!'''</span>]][[User talk:Funktastic~!|<sub><small><span style="color:#99CCFF">''話してください''</span></small></sub>]] 05:43, 20 February 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Thank you. I can rest easy--[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] ([[User talk:Darknesslover5000|talk]]) 05:48, 20 February 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::No so much an incorrect date as their estimation. They have to make these estimations for the purposes of preorders. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 07:26, 20 February 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== RFE: Broken Link in Bulbanews box ==<br />
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The Bulbanews box currently gets the link wrong:<br />
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'''<nowiki>{{bulbanews|game}}</nowiki>''' links to [[:n:Category:Articles relating to Pokémon X and Y]] but the actual page is [[:n:Category:Articles relating to Pokémon X and Y Versions]].<br />
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It should be '''<nowiki>{{bulbanews|game|Pokémon X and Y Versions}}</nowiki>''' instead. --''[[User:Stratelier|Stratelier]]'' 19:16, 28 February 2013 (UTC)<br />
:I've changed the category on Bulbanews. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 06:52, 8 March 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Mewtwo's Awakened Form ==<br />
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A new, Mewtwo-esque Pokémon has been revealed. It needs to be added to this page.<br />
*http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vk_YC0MXJ-0&list=PLQWzKIaERirwczLwQE6HegZyd4pYV5AwH <br />
*http://www.pokemon.com/pokemonxy/en-us/<br />
[[User:MasterZ|MasterZ]] ([[User talk:MasterZ|talk]]) 23:48, 6 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
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It should be added on this page, but there isn't much anyone can write about it, as nothing is known except for the fact it's similar to Mewtwo. (Although in my opinion, I think it should just be noted with a photo about the new Pokemon in the Pokemon X and Y page and the Generation VI page). Btw, this new generation is totaly getting me pumped up for October! I know thats not a place to say that, but yea, just wanted to put that out there! LOL Hopefully new information will be available soon! :) PokeNerd 07:07, 7 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
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Well, it's been added. Now we have to keep an eye out for its name... Maybe in the meantime we could just call it "New Mewtwo". [[User:MasterZ|MasterZ]] ([[User talk:MasterZ|talk]]) 20:15, 7 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
:NO. Absolutely no speculating for now. We need to wait for an official name. ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|<span style="color:teal">Frozen</span>]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|<span style="color:green">Fennec</span>]]'' 20:21, 7 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
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While I agree 100% with no speculation, if the image is there, the presence of this new Mewtwo-like Pokemon and its role in the new movie should be mentioned under "New Pokemon", especially since I believe that would make it the first Gen VI Pokemon to appear in the anime. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] ([[User talk:Drake Clawfang|talk]]) 22:07, 7 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
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We should call it ?????????? for now. [[User:MewtwoForm2|MewtwoForm2]] ([[User talk:MewtwoForm2|talk]]) 23:04, 7 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
:We just need to wait. That's all I have to say regarding its name. ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|<span style="color:teal">Frozen</span>]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|<span style="color:green">Fennec</span>]]'' 23:08, 7 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
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I agree, leave it how it is! There is nothing further that anyone can tell at this time! Like I said above, they have only stated it shares similarities to Mewtwo and nothing else at this time! Naming it "??????????" is pointless, having a photo on the Pokemon X and Y page is just fine (how it is now). When more CONCRETE evidence is revealed, then a page should and will be made for the new Pokemon! Till then, lets just be amazed and in awe of this new Pokemon! :) PokeNerd 11:10, 8 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
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[[User:Poko10|Poko10]] ([[User talk:Poko10|talk]]) 10:35, 13 April 2013 (UTC)PEOPLE i found a probable corocoro leak! It confirms that the new "mewtwo" IS a new forme. :D<br />
*Same here, it's probably okay to label its box as "Mewtwo" or "New Mewtwo forme" at this point. [[User:Darthrai|Darthrai]] ([[User talk:Darthrai|talk]]) 14:25, 13 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
::[[n:CoroCoro reveals last week's unveiled Pokémon to be Forme of Mewtwo]] --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 14:45, 13 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
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Not to speculate, but considering the movie's called Mewtwo's Awakening, and the form is described as Mewtwo awakening in its new form, I would say it's called "Awakened Form". But we should just wait for more info and add the artwork to the [[Mewtwo]] page. [[User:MasterZ|MasterZ]] ([[User talk:MasterZ|talk]]) 15:57, 13 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
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I agree we should probably wait for more information before we start naming things. [[User:Poko10|Poko10]] ([[User talk:Poko10|talk]]) 00:08, 14 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
:When a name comes out, we'll add it, but this talkpage isn't the place to speculate about what it could be. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">--Pokemaster</span>]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">97</span>]]''''' 00:22, 14 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
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Now that its been confirmed as a new forme of Mewtwo, can that be officially added to the page and Mewtwo's page? Or should we wait? Demers-Vachon 01:45, 19 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
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Why was the new Mewtwo picture removed in the recent update? <br />
[[User:CrystalHalfBreed|CrystalHalfBreed]] ([[User talk:CrystalHalfBreed|talk]]) 19:18, 22 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Because its been confirmed to be a new form and not a new Pokémon. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 11:29, 23 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
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Maybe we should make a new section for revealed forms of pokemon? Or place something in the screen shot section? It seems weird not to have any of this news anywhere on the page.<br />
[[User:CrystalHalfBreed|CrystalHalfBreed]] ([[User talk:CrystalHalfBreed|talk]]) 15:51, 23 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Possible Pokémon X and Y Release date ==<br />
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Hi! I'm new at this and I wanna share something to you all.<br />
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While I'm searching the web about Pokémon, I found a Wikipedia page titled ''2013 in video gaming'' and I was so excited to see a release date for ''Pokémon X and Y''. This maybe unofficial because I couldn't see any reference about the date. So here's the link: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_in_video_gaming#October.E2.80.93December 2013 in video gaming]<br />
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I hope this will help and also please reply... thank you! --[[User:AwesomeDJPokemon|AwesomeDJPokemon]] ([[User talk:AwesomeDJPokemon|talk]]) 15:10, 8 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:From our article:<br />
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::"The paired versions will be released worldwide (except for select countries) on '''October 2013''' and will be available for both retail sale and download."<br />
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:It was announced in the first trailer I believe. --[[User:Spriteit|Spriteit]] ([[User talk:Spriteit|talk]]) 15:13, 8 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Yeah, basically everyone has known the release date since the games were announced. I wonder where you have been for the past three months.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#AB0909">電</font><font color="#063A73">禅</font>]]<small>[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#fff" face="Tahoma"><span style="text-shadow:#000 0.2em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Den Zen</span></font>]]</small>''' 15:23, 8 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
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::: Well, I knew that it was going to be released in October but I was talking about the exact '''date''' of the release. --[[User:AwesomeDJPokemon|AwesomeDJPokemon]] ([[User talk:AwesomeDJPokemon|talk]]) 15:30, 8 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::: Oh, sorry. I didn't notice that there was '20' in the table. I'm sure it's just an assumption though.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#AB0909">電</font><font color="#063A73">禅</font>]]<small>[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#fff" face="Tahoma"><span style="text-shadow:#000 0.2em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Den Zen</span></font>]]</small>''' 15:52, 8 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:::::Thank you for noticing it! I just wanna contribute to you guys this and other information about the game and the franchise. --[[User:AwesomeDJPokemon|AwesomeDJPokemon]] ([[User talk:AwesomeDJPokemon|talk]]) 16:06, 8 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::::Wikipedia is only reliable when a source is provided. I tracked down [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2013_in_video_gaming&diff=539765900&oldid=539723107 the edit which added the 20], and no source was provided. I have now removed that from the Wikipedia page. Thanks for pointing it out though. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 12:51, 9 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::::: Just to let you know, the release date that says October 20th is back on that wikipedia page, I even called my game stores in my home town and all of them just have October 2013, no specific date. So whoever added that to wiki page, needs to A) remove it or B) provide a real source to where they got that release date from! PokeNerd 01:19, 10 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::::::The same user removed it later, so it's fine now. (Also, we really shouldn't use a Bulbapedia talk page to discuss a Wikipedia issue.) --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 08:12, 11 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Lots of new Pokemon revealed, new region revealed, slight customization revealed, etc. etc. ETC! ==<br />
Seriously, this is a news overload. We even have some info about the starters! Somebody, add all this! Especially the new Pokemon! We even have pages for them, now! {{unsigned|Poko907}}<br />
:Please allow some time, we've been working hard to add and update in a timely manner. The new information will be added ASAP. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">--Pokemaster</span>]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">97</span>]]''''' 15:59, 11 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
:: It's on the page now! Awesome! {{unsigned|Poko907}}<br />
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== Boxes exist now ==<br />
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[[a:File:X EN boxart.png]] [[a:File:Y EN boxart.png]]<br>can you stick these on--[[User:Pikachu Bros.|<span style="color:lightblue">Pikachu Bros.</span>]] <small>([[User talk:Pikachu Bros.|<span style="color:red">talk</span>]])</small> 18:32, 14 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Female player == <br />
We don't have ANY pictures of her official art, despite some pictures of her being on the official site. I was wondering why she isn't there, considering all of the new Pokemon, the region, a city, and more being added in. [[User:Poko907|Poko907]] ([[User talk:Poko907|talk]]) 21:09, 14 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
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The pictures on the official site ARE official art. [[User:MasterZ|MasterZ]] ([[User talk:MasterZ|talk]]) 20:58, 25 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Downloadable citation? ==<br />
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Where was it (first?) stated that X and Y will be downloadable titles from the eShop? Or is it just a rule now for 3DS games? --[[User:Johans|Johans]] ([[User talk:Johans|talk]]) 02:32, 15 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Found it in history: http://www.famitsu.com/news/201301/08026993.html Maybe this needs citation, though. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] ([[User talk:Johans|talk]]) 02:48, 15 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Disambiguation clarification ==<br />
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Shouldn't the article have some kind of introductory disambiguation statement situated somewhere at the article's beginning? Something like:<br />
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:''This article is about the game'' Pokémon X.'' For other referrals, see [[Pokémon X]].'' <br />
[[User:Fenyx4|Fenyx4]] ([[User talk:Fenyx4|talk]]) 20:36, 15 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
::There's no need. Searching [[Pokémon X]] already takes you to that page. There are no terms that redirect here that could be confused with other items on the disambiguation page. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 13:11, 20 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Character Designs ==<br />
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The news overload continues... According to the Official Pokémon X and Y website, when you choose your gender, you have 3 different character designs to choose from. You can also change your outfit later on. [[User:MasterZ|MasterZ]] ([[User talk:MasterZ|talk]]) 23:40, 15 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Opposite Player ==<br />
The PC you don't choose will appear sometime during the storyline, as shown in the trailer. Mystriously, she doesn't have her trademark hat. Maybe it's the same for the male PC, but we can't speculate on pages, so. {{Unsigned|Poko907}}<br />
:When in which video were the male and female players shown in the same screen? -[[User:IVsaur|<span style="color:lightbrown">EVs</span><small><span style="color:black">and</span></small><span style="color:green">IVsaurs</span>]] 17:33, 18 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
::[http://www.pokemonxy.com/_ui/img/_en/screenshots/may_supp_p3_5.jpg Here]. We're not adding it, though. We have zero information on the context of the scene and assuming that girl is opposite gender player character is pure speculation at this point. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 17:44, 18 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
OK. [[User:Poko907|Poko907]] ([[User talk:Poko907|talk]]) 01:00, 19 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Concept Art? Official? ==<br />
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[http://oyster.ignimgs.com/wordpress/stg.ign.com/2013/05/Lumiose-City-scene-illustration.jpg]<br />
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I found this on IGN's article on new stuff from XY, It said concept art, is this official, if so shouldn't it make its way to the image gallery?<br />
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Also sorry, I have no idea how to make it smaller so I just put it as a link. Other wise it would have stretched the page. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 09:42, 19 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
:I don't know if it would be classified as concept art, but it's real. It's used on the article for Lumiose City. --[[User:HoennMaster|<font color="blue">Hoenn</font>]][[User talk:HoennMaster|<font color="green">Master</font>]] 15:25, 19 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Ken Sugimori ==<br />
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I asked this on Helioptile's page as well, but no one answered, so here it goes:<br />
Whenever a new Pokemon is released, as is the case with the 4 new Pokemon recently released, we get official artwork from them. But how do we know definitely that the artwork is always by Sugimori? Of course, it is his art style, but that's not so hard to mimic for a professional... <br />
So how do we know? --[[User:Phoenixon|Phoenixon]] ([[User talk:Phoenixon|talk]]) 20:52, 30 May 2013 (UTC)</div>Phoenixonhttps://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Helioptile_(Pok%C3%A9mon)&diff=1908433Talk:Helioptile (Pokémon)2013-05-25T10:54:12Z<p>Phoenixon: /* Ken Sugimori */ new section</p>
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<div>==Helioptile==<br />
Combination of Helios, meaning Sun, and Reptile. [[User:Articerile|Articerile]] ([[User talk:Articerile|talk]]) 12:44, 14 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Because of the Helios in the name, I wonder if Helioptile will be able to learn grass-type moves. (Just speculation, of course.) [[User:Nuckles123|Nuckles123]] ([[User talk:Nuckles123|talk]]) 19:31, 14 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
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==Based on a lizard & Name origins==<br />
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On the page it says that "Erikiteru is based on a lizard," but I think it's actually based on a mongoose. For one, it only passing looks like a lizard, and looks much more mammalian. Secondly, it's name is "Erikiteru," which I believe to be a portmanteau of "Electric" and "Riki-Tiki-Tavi," Kipling's famous mongoose. Just my two cents.<br />
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--[[User:Zoraluigi|<span style="color:green">Zoraluigi</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:Zoraluigi|<span style="color:blue"><small>Talk</small></span>]])''</small> 17:37, 11 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Really? Imo it's very lizard-like due to its body shape, tail, mouth, eyes, and nostrils, while the only things that makes it look only remotely like a mammal are its "ears". Then again, mongooses don't have ears like that.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#AB0909">電</font><font color="#063A73">禅</font>]]<small>[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#fff" face="Tahoma"><span style="text-shadow:#000 0.2em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Den Zen</span></font>]]</small>''' 18:01, 11 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
::IMO it's a loose adaptation of a frilled lizard, with those thin appendages in place of the portentous frills (speculating it has more of those folded in). Eri might come from エリマキトカゲ ''erimaki tokage'', frilled lizard, and going by the new move it comes with (Parabola Charge) its head appendages might somehow work like a parabolic antenna, which a frilled lizard would be easy to cross with.--[[User:Kaoz|Kaoz]] ([[User talk:Kaoz|talk]]) 18:32, 11 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::If you ask me, I believe it to be partially based on the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spotted_salamander Spotted Salamander]. It was recently discovered in 2010 that it is capable of absorbing sunlight and converting it as its own energy, similar to how solar panels work. (Yes I took this somewhat from Charmander, but that's not the point) I believe it to be based as a combination of both things. [[User:Rai Marshall|Rai Marshall]] ([[User talk:Rai Marshall|talk]]) 23:38, 11 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::The name probably comes from "erimake tokage" and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elekiter "elekiter"].—[[User:Urutapu|urutapu]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]]) 05:01, 12 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
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==Species==<br />
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I can't edit, but it's species should be Generate Pokémon. ([[User:E9310103838|E9310103838]] ([[User talk:E9310103838|talk]]) 03:29, 13 May 2013 (UTC))<br />
:No. "Hatsuden" (はつでん) is a noun, not a verb.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#AB0909">電</font><font color="#063A73">禅</font>]]<small>[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#fff" face="Tahoma"><span style="text-shadow:#000 0.2em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Den Zen</span></font>]]</small>''' 09:38, 13 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
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==Name==<br />
This Pokémon's name isn't Erikiteru. It's E'''l'''ikiteru. It says so everywhere. Same for Gōgōto. It isn't Gōgōto, its G'''ogoat'''. And the Karosu region is actually '''Karos'''. It doesn't have a u. --[[User:HJ13|HJ13]] ([[User talk:HJ13|talk]]) 15:29, 13 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Except they aren't. Just because Serebii and a bunch of other fansites call them that, it doesn't mean those are the official romanizations. We don't assume names here. And yes, it does have a "u" in it. That's how it's written in the original Japanese. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 15:34, 13 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
::The English names have not come out yet, so we can't change anything. It's the same over at the Mewtwo talk page with everyone arguing about what to call the new form. [[User:Nuckles123|Nuckles123]] ([[User talk:Nuckles123|talk]]) 19:05, 13 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::This isn't about the English name. It's about how to spell the Japanese name. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 19:27, 13 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::This may be an outdated conversation now that English names have been revealed, but HJ13 doesn't seem to know anything about Japanese and the Romanization of such. He's disputing an L vs an R and a name ending with a vowel vs ending with a non-N consonant. [[User:Schiffy|<font color="000999">Schiffy</font>]] ([[User_talk:Schiffy|<font color="FF6600">Speak to me</font>]]&#124;[[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|<font color="FF0000">What I've done</font>]]) 17:35, 14 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Typing ==<br />
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Should we mention something in the trivia section about Erikiteru's unique typing? [[User:Nuckles123|Nuckles123]] ([[User talk:Nuckles123|talk]]) 21:26, 13 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
:We don't know whether its type combination will be unique or not. Drapion was the first Poison/Dark type revealed, but its typing was never unique because Stunky and Skuntank were introduced in the same generation.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#AB0909">電</font><font color="#063A73">禅</font>]]<small>[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#fff" face="Tahoma"><span style="text-shadow:#000 0.2em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Den Zen</span></font>]]</small>''' 21:32, 13 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Alright. Thanks for the response. [[User:Nuckles123|Nuckles123]] ([[User talk:Nuckles123|talk]]) 00:36, 14 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Parabola Charge ==<br />
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Erikiteru was revealed to have a new move called Parabola Charge, which heals the user while damaging opponents. Should that be added? [[User:MasterZ|MasterZ]] ([[User talk:MasterZ|talk]]) 23:02, 13 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
:We're waiting to learn how and when the Pokemon learns the move. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">--Pokemaster</span>]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">97</span>]]''''' 23:53, 13 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Type effectiveness ==<br />
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We know its type, and the types of most of the other new Pokemon, why not put their type effectiveness on their pages? [[User:Kpokefan|<span style="color:#00A000;">'''K'''</span>]][[User talk:Kpokefan|<span style="color:#FFAAAA;">'''P'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Kpokefan|<span style="color:#E1E1E1;">'''F'''</span>]] 17:20, 14 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
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Because they could tweak the weaknesses/resistances/immunities of some types. For example: what if Electric types become weak against Dragon types in Gen IV? --[[User:Relicant|<span style="color:#785C3E;">'''Reli'''</span><span style="color:#FF3300;">★</span><span style="color:#C2A385;">'''ジーランス'''</span>]]'''?''' 17:25, 14 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Also the ability is unknown, we can't be sure whether it would immune to some types or so on. Plus a new type is possible, so it wouldn't be wise do the chart until we have information about these things. [[User: Ariano|Արիանո]] 17:31, 14 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
::I reckon that's true, guess that possibility just slipped my mind. [[User:Kpokefan|<span style="color:#00A000;">'''K'''</span>]][[User talk:Kpokefan|<span style="color:#FFAAAA;">'''P'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Kpokefan|<span style="color:#E1E1E1;">'''F'''</span>]] 19:55, 14 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Categories ==<br />
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Can someone explain why Helioptile is in the Single type category rather than dual type, and not in a Normal type category? [[User:Schiffy|<font color="000999">Schiffy</font>]] ([[User_talk:Schiffy|<font color="FF6600">Speak to me</font>]]&#124;[[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|<font color="FF0000">What I've done</font>]]) 17:40, 14 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Fixed. It was because it was missing ''<nowiki>typen=2 |</nowiki>'' from the infobox. If I knew how, I would change it so that the category is determined on whether there is the ''<nowiki>type2= |</nowiki>'' parameter or not.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#AB0909">電</font><font color="#063A73">禅</font>]]<small>[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#fff" face="Tahoma"><span style="text-shadow:#000 0.2em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Den Zen</span></font>]]</small>''' 17:48, 14 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Physiology ==<br />
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Helioptile is a small, lizard-like Pokemon that is mostly pale yellow. Its feet and tail tip are black, as is the top of its head. It has two frills hanging from the sides of its head that are black with yellow tips. The frills can stiffen and unfold. It has large eyes with blue irises and white pupils, and a mouth that appears curved into a smile, with two small nostrils above it. It has a triangle-shaped yellow patch between its eyes.<br />
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It's my first time writing one, so it may be a little rough. Editing is appreciated. [[User:Zakitano|Zakitano]] ([[User talk:Zakitano|talk]]) 22:00, 14 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== In the trailer It frills up the "folds" on its head.. ==<br />
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Is it necessary to put Filled-necked lizard as its origin except the frills are on its head instead?<br />
--[[User:Antlionerd|Antlionerd]] ([[User talk:Antlionerd|talk]]) 22:40, 14 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
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I think it's obvious it's based on a frilled lizard, but noting that the frills are on its head doesn't seem necessary, unless we're also going to note on Xerneas's page that most deer don't have jeweled antlers, or on Victreebel's page that pitcher plants don't have eyes. [[User:Zakitano|Zakitano]] ([[User talk:Zakitano|talk]]) 22:47, 14 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
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I guess your right with that unnecessary mention to its origin lol <br />
--[[User:Antlionerd|Antlionerd]] ([[User talk:Antlionerd|talk]]) 23:07, 14 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
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It does seem to be based on a Frilled Lizard. It's "Ears" widen when it attacks in the gameplay trailer. --[[user:Amigopen|Hi,]] [[user talk:Amigopen|I'm Amigopen!]] 10:17, 15 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Diet ==<br />
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Helioptile photosynthesizes and therefore does not need to eat, however, it is still capable of eating. [[User:Dralcax|(O++O) Dralcax]] ([[User talk:Dralcax|talk]]) 20:12, 15 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Urm... where was that mentioned anywhere? ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 20:21, 15 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
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It's mentioned on the official XY website. --[[User:Relicant|<span style="color:#785C3E;">'''Reli'''</span><span style="color:#FF3300;">★</span><span style="color:#C2A385;">'''ジーランス'''</span>]]'''?''' 21:24, 15 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
:That's weird. I would expect Helioptile to be a grass-type if that were true. [[User:Nuckles123|Nuckles123]] ([[User talk:Nuckles123|talk]]) 21:32, 16 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
It is true, like it or not. Although the word "photosynthesis" isn't actually used, the website specifically states that: "Helioptile charges itself by bathing in the light of the sun, providing it with enough energy that it doesn't need to eat." [[User:Me, Hurray!|Me, Hurray!]] ([[User talk:Me, Hurray!|talk]]) 21:05, 19 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
:So more like an organic solar cell than a plant. [[User:Nuckles123|Nuckles123]] ([[User talk:Nuckles123|talk]]) 05:27, 20 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Very apt comparison. Perhaps that's what it's conceptually (as opposed to physically) based on. [[User:Me, Hurray!|Me, Hurray!]] ([[User talk:Me, Hurray!|talk]]) 13:30, 22 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::The answer is probably going to be no, but should this solar cell theory be put on the article? [[User:Nuckles123|Nuckles123]] ([[User talk:Nuckles123|talk]]) 08:53, 24 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Ken Sugimori ==<br />
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Okay, I wasn't sure where to ask this, but I though here was suitable....<br />
Whenever a new Pokemon is released, as is the case with the 4 new Pokemon recently released, we get official artwork from them. But how do we know ''definitely'' that the artwork is ''always'' by Sugimori? Of course, it is his art style, but that's not so hard to mimic for a professional... So how do we know? --[[User:Phoenixon|Phoenixon]] ([[User talk:Phoenixon|talk]]) 10:54, 25 May 2013 (UTC)</div>Phoenixonhttps://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Generation_VI&diff=1906059Talk:Generation VI2013-05-20T13:47:03Z<p>Phoenixon: /* Debut time */ new section</p>
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The redirect here needs to be suppressed, now that gen VI has been announced. [[User:Digifiend|Digifiend]] ([[User talk:Digifiend|talk]]) 12:49, 8 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== X and Y. ==<br />
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Since this is going to be a full 3D (instead of {{tt|2.5D|2.5D is when something is made to look 3D, but is actually 2D}})... X and Y (as well Z) are the coordinates in 3D. X is horizontal, Y is vertical and Z is depth. Kinda neat reference. [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] ([[User talk:Marked +-+-+|talk]]) 14:47, 8 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:*Cool theory. Wouldn't be surprised if they did. But for all we know they might do what they did with Generation V and come out with an "X2" and "Y2". But I like your idea. ^_^ ----[[User:NateVirus|<span style="color:blue">NateVirus</span>]]<small>''([[User talk:NateVirus|<span style="color:green">Talk</span>]]''|''[[Special:Contributions/NateVirus|<span style="color:red">Contributions</span>]]''</small>) 00:46, 9 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
::WOW, Marked I thought of exactly the same (before reading this talk page). But there's more! Remember Palkia and Dialga? Well, they're the beings of space and time, huh? Well, remeber Reshiram, Zekrom and Kyurem? The dragons of truth, ideals and dreams? Now it gets tricky, remember the differences between Black (2) and White (2)? Old Opelucid, new Opelucid, old way of growing vegetables in Mistralton, new way of growing vegetables in Mistralton? Where, or WHEN, do people find the truth, find their ideals or have dreams about those two? In the past, the future and the present! Wait that has to do with time! Wait Dialga has to do with time! And wth, in the Cartesian coordinate system x and y and z (there's always a third one, of course) represent the 3 dimensions of space! Wait did I say space? Wait Palkia has to do with Space! [[User:Nickvang|Nickvang]] ([[User talk:Nickvang|talk]]) 19:41, 9 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::On other hand, considering DNA helises in Japanese logos... If they're going by sequels again, we can expect Pokémon W and Pokémon Z. [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] ([[User talk:Marked +-+-+|talk]]) 20:36, 9 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::This page is not meant for speculation. Please take this conversation over to the forums. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">--Pokemaster</span>]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">97</span>]]''''' 21:01, 9 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::::Pokemaster I was just going to add this: 'You would expect four legendary mascots!? Well, there are a billion ways for the Pokémon developers to make sequels (if they're not going for a third version once again) without having to create four legends. Like what they did with Kyurem, or maybe they'll give X and Y a new form, so discussing about that won't get you anywhere obvious, and then you'll start speculating...' But pokemaster, can we add the relation between the Caresian coordinate system and the new 3d games on the page? [[User:Nickvang|Nickvang]] ([[User talk:Nickvang|talk]]) 21:08, 9 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::::The staff decided that we will not be adding any trivia about the Caresian coordinate system at this time. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">--Pokemaster</span>]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">97</span>]]''''' 22:58, 9 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
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==A few errors==<br />
There should be a dot after the Eiffel Tower part. Also, surely the last sentence is supposed to say '''five''' previous generations, not four. [[User: Ariano|Արիանո]] 16:33, 8 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
Or rather I would say "the regions preceding it". [[User: Ariano|Արիանո]] 16:39, 8 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Fixed. [[User:Masatoshi|<span style="color: #224a9a"><b><span style="color: #2b5fc7">M</span>asatoshi</b></span>]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|<span style="color: #118eb2"><sub><small>''talk''</small></sub></span>]] 19:51, 8 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Not "versions"! ==<br />
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Just to point out - it's been made clear in the Pokémon Direct that X and Y are the first two main series games without "Version" in their titles. In other words, they are not "Pokémon X Version and Pokémon Y Version", but "Pokémon X and Pokémon Y". Could this page please be edited to reflect this departure? [[User:NP Chilla|NP Chilla]] ([[User talk:NP Chilla|talk]]) 17:36, 8 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:[http://www.thesixthaxis.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/PokemonXY8-1024x640.jpg This shows them as X Version and Y Version], so it still follows the tradition, even if unofficially. For now we won't be changing it. [[User:Masatoshi|<span style="color: #224a9a"><b><span style="color: #2b5fc7">M</span>asatoshi</b></span>]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|<span style="color: #118eb2"><sub><small>''talk''</small></sub></span>]] 19:51, 8 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
== problem ==<br />
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it says they '''were''' released as a pair [[User:Pikachu Bros.|<span style="color:cyan">Pikachu Bros.</span>]] <small>([[User talk:Pikachu Bros.|<span style="color:red">talk</span>]])</small> 19:09, 8 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Fixed. [[User:Masatoshi|<span style="color: #224a9a"><b><span style="color: #2b5fc7">M</span>asatoshi</b></span>]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|<span style="color: #118eb2"><sub><small>''talk''</small></sub></span>]] 19:51, 8 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== With this confirmation... ==<br />
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that means that Generation V is the first Generation that does not have a solitary version? {{unsigned|Deruffy}} <br />
:Don't count your chickens before they hatch{{tt|.|This is a proverb; though technically I didn't know about this one, but I knew about its counterpart in my language}} Considering that they made sequels instead of third version, we can't be sure about anything. [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] ([[User talk:Marked +-+-+|talk]]) 20:48, 8 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Region inspiration ==<br />
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"The new region draws inspiration from France" should probably be changed to "The new region appears to draw inspiration from France" until we've seen more of it. There might well just be an Eiffel Tower replica plunked into a PokeCalifornia or something. [[User:Yamiidenryuu|Yamiidenryuu]] ([[User talk:Yamiidenryuu|talk]]) 21:24, 8 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:I agree with you on this point. It's honestly too soon to be jumping to conclusions. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">--Pokemaster</span>]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">97</span>]]''''' 21:42, 8 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
::I think, if I were being really pedantic, even "Appears to draw inspiration from France" could be a little misleading, because it makes it sound like it'll all be France. There are deserts in the trailer, how many deserts does France have? That's more quintessentially Spanish. I'd say the new region "appears to have drawn inspiration from European landmarks, such as the Eiffel Tower in France." But even then, European landmarks is conjecture. Relatively safe conjecture, but still, minefield!! Only thing we can really say is that there's a tower in it that looks a bit French. How do you translate that into Bulbapese? [[User:Constantmotion|Constantmotion]] ([[User talk:Constantmotion|talk]]) 00:42, 9 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::Actually, I just watched the trailer back, and the moment where Pikachu shoots lightning across the world, you can see it originates somewhere in Europe. I found this interesting, and given this conversation, an observation perhaps to be worth noting. [[User:Rassilon of Old|<font color="00B000">'''Rassilon of Old'''</font>]] <sup>([[User talk:Rassilon of Old|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Rassilon_of_Old|Contribs]])</sup> 01:13, 9 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::: I also agree with "appears to have drawn inspiration from European landmarks, such as the Eiffel Tower in France.", since there are many monuments similar to the ones we can see in the trailer, like Blackpool tower in or Buckingam Palace in England, aswell as the radio tower in Alexanderplatz in Berlin, or the city architecture in Italy. [[User:Tano|Tano]] ([[User talk:Tano|talk]]) 19:32, 11 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::Good thing that you mentioned the trailer because, if anything, it only serves as further evidence that the games draw inspiration from France because Pikachu is seen actually standing atop the Eiffel tower. People who keep mentioning "how many deserts does France have?" are pretty ridiculous when you take into account the fact that Game Freak has taken a huge amount of artistic freedom in the past (i.e. Unova Route 4). [[User:Gacs|Gacs]] ([[User talk:Gacs|talk]]) 07:47, 13 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::::This discussion has trailed off into idle speculation. Please use [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/f693/ the forums] to carry out this discussion. This topic is being dropped as the page refers to Europe instead of France. <sup>[[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup>[[User:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">Jo the Marten</span>]]<sup>[[Flygon (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup> [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">ಠ_ಠ</span>]][[Cilan (anime)|<span style="color:#90C870;">♥</span>]] 10:52, 13 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== reveal time. ==<br />
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Can we say this generation has the fastest reveal time after a game of the previous generation was released?[[User:Deoxys80|Deoxys80]] ([[User talk:Deoxys80|talk]]) 01:02, 9 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
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=="3 new"?==<br />
Shouldn't the sidebar say 5 new? They may not be named, but the legendaries shown certainly count as separate, new Pokémon. {{unsigned|Gadvac}}<br />
:It's based on how many Pokémon articles are in the Gen VI category. The Legendary Pokémon don't currently have names, so it's impossible to create an article for them. <sup>[[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup>[[User:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">Jo the Marten</span>]]<sup>[[Flygon (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup> [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">ಠ_ಠ</span>]][[Cilan (anime)|<span style="color:#90C870;">♥</span>]] 02:46, 9 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
They were recently revealed with the deer-like Pokémon being Xerneas and the bird-like Pokémon being Yvetal. {{unsigned|Plusleminun311312}}<br />
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==No images?==<br />
Can we get some images of the new overworld/battle system in the gallery, or is there a page where they already exist? -[[User:Wohdin|Wohdin]] ([[User talk:Wohdin|talk]]) 05:13, 9 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:They're on [[Pokémon X and Y Versions]]. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 05:14, 9 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Xerneas and Yveltal ==<br />
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Names of the X and Y mascots just confirmed: http://www.pokemon.com/pokemonxy/en-us/ [[User:NP Chilla|NP Chilla]] ([[User talk:NP Chilla|talk]]) 14:16, 9 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
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"Nintendo of America has revealed the names of the two Legendary Pokemon which will feature in the forthcoming Pokemon X and Pokemon Y for the Nintendo 3DS. The Pokemon X Legendary is called Xerneas, which is pronounced Zurr-nee-us. The Pokemon Y mascot is called Yveltal, which is pronounced ee-vell-tall." {{unsigned|BritLucifer}}<br />
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== Genetic Generation? ==<br />
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Even ignoring that it would be a reference to 3D axes if there were a Pokémon Z, the selling point of this generation is that it is the first generation to be 3D in every sense of the word. I think that's how people will remember this gen, so I thought we would be calling it the 3D generation, similar to how Generation III was called the Advance Generation. X and Y don't have special meaning in genetics outside of sex chromosomes. Even without a Pokémon Z I'd say it's more a reference to the mathematical variables that are used to establish two different things, than to genetics. Like how Black and White are used as metaphors for things that are opposite. That was actually my first reaction when I found out the names of the games, as "Pokémon X and Y" could be used as a term to refer to paired versions in general. Well, what I'm saying is that I would call it the 3D generation. Feel free to disagree, but it would be better than "Genetic Generation". [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] <sup>([[User_talk:TorchicBlaziken|talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/TorchicBlaziken|edits]])</sup> 15:48, 9 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:I agree to an extent - while it is possible it's to do with genetics, it's a bit of a stretch to call it Genetic Generation at such an early point in conception. Also, it does seem a bit less likely for it to be genetics (after all, if it truly were about sex chromosomes, it should be XX and XY, not X and Y. My first thoughts personally were co-ordinates, but that could be wrong, too). Either way, as a wiki, speculation shouldn't be added as fact, right? Thus, "Genetic Generation" should be moved until there is hard evidence that the X and Y do, in fact, represent sex genes. [[User:LordSchmee|LordSchmee]] ([[User talk:LordSchmee|talk]]) 16:00, 9 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Do not forget that [[Generation IV]] is already called the 3D generation (even though this Generation is gonna be more 3D than Gen IV) and that there's a small string of DNA in the Japanese logo's of the Games. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 16:04, 9 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
::: Well, I guess if there's already a 3D generation we'll just have to leave it until people actually start calling this generation something or Bulbapedia calling it genetic generation carries over to people calling it that, whichever comes first. At least I know why it's called that here now. [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] <sup>([[User_talk:TorchicBlaziken|talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/TorchicBlaziken|edits]])</sup> 16:26, 9 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Who comes up with these names anyway? I've only ever heard of "Advanced Generation" (which was used in promotion). Everything else seems to be made up. --[[User:Dorsal Axe|Dorsal Axe]] ([[User talk:Dorsal Axe|talk]]) 16:22, 9 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
::I don't think gen VI should be called genetic generation without confirmation. The names of the previous generations had some relation to (at least) the primary paired versions. For e.g., gen II was Metal Generation(Gold and Silver). So the name should have some relation the primary paired versions.[[User:Auraguardian197|<span style="color:green">'''Auraguardian'''</span>]][[User talk:Auraguardian197|<span style="color:red">'''197'''</span>]] 17:22, 9 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::[[:a:File:X Version logo Jp.png|The "n" in Pocket Monster clearly represents a strand of DNA.]] Therefore, it's obvious they're referring to the chromosomes, and not the axes. <sup>[[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup>[[User:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">Jo the Marten</span>]]<sup>[[Flygon (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup> [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">ಠ_ಠ</span>]][[Cilan (anime)|<span style="color:#90C870;">♥</span>]] 17:27, 9 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
::::Incidentally, there's a 3D pokeball in the logo and it also uses 3D text. That being said, calling it the "coordinates generation" or something would just be asinine. --[[User:Dorsal Axe|Dorsal Axe]] ([[User talk:Dorsal Axe|talk]]) 17:46, 9 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:Could it not easily be referencing both? x & y coordinates relating to mathematics, 3D graphics, etc as well as X & Y chromosomes relating to DNA, evolution, pokedarwinism, etc. Also, x and y aren't opposite, they're orthogonal. In fact, none of the version names have been truly "opposite" except MAYBE black and white. --[[User:BritLucifer|BritLucifer]] ([[User talk:BritLucifer|talk]]) 18:19, 9 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
::To quote Pokemaster97 (from above), "The staff decided that we will not be adding any trivia about the Caresian coordinate system at this time." So, let's just wait until more info comes out. [[Special:Contributions/GamerGeek|<span style="color:aqua">☆</span>]][[User:GamerGeek|<span style="color:teal">Gamer</span>]][[User talk:GamerGeek|<span style="color:gold">Geek</span>]][[Special:Log/GamerGeek|<span style="color:orange">☆</span>]] 22:40, 15 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
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"'''YES''', Generation VI is confirmed. '''PLEASE DO NOT ADD SPECULATION TO PAGES.''' As soon as information is confirmed by a reliable source, it will be added."<br />
Because Gen. VI being the "Genetic Generation" is obviously a confirmed fact. I don't understand why it is still there. <span style="color:#130894">'''*~Darklight~*'''</span> 13:13, 1 February 2013 (UTC)<br />
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:I'm so sorry to disagree, but this is bothering me too. ''None'' of this is confirmed by any reliable source. We can't be sure what that graphic above the n means. I personally think that stating this is the "Genetic Generation" is too bold and premature. If anything, I think both theories are correct; the one on the side of it being the first 3D generation of Pokémon games, and maybe something to do with DNA, that I agree, is present in the Japanese logos of the games anyway. I think it shouldn't be added to the page until something more, like a preview of the games or a glimpse of the next series is out, to see which theory was the closest or actually correct. Come on, we can wait. [[User:YukitoOoO|YukitoOoO]] ([[User talk:YukitoOoO|talk]]) 04:20, 17 March 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== no longer 3 ==<br />
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Hi, i was just wondering if someone can change the '3 new' hyperlink on the Pokemon section of the side bit, seeing as there's now 5 named Pokemon instead of 3; i'd do it myself but the page is locked, thanks [[User:Azure42|Azure/ChromeVoid42]] ([[User talk:Azure42|talk]]) 19:00, 9 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Click the clock at the top of the site. <sup>[[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup>[[User:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">Jo the Marten</span>]]<sup>[[Flygon (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup> [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">ಠ_ಠ</span>]][[Cilan (anime)|<span style="color:#90C870;">♥</span>]] 19:26, 9 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== UK and Aussie Release ==<br />
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You guys forgot to mark the template so that it shows the UK and Aussie release as October 2013 as well. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 21:04, 9 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== "Starters" ==<br />
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Is there any confirmation that Chespin, Fennekin, and Froakie are the starters? After the last two generations, it's been proven that we can't assume anything. [[User:Bwburke94|Bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 03:45, 11 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:[http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2013/01/08/meet-your-pok-233-mon-x-and-y-starters.aspx Yes they are]. [[Special:Contributions/GamerGeek|<span style="color:aqua">☆</span>]][[User:GamerGeek|<span style="color:teal">Gamer</span>]][[User talk:GamerGeek|<span style="color:gold">Geek</span>]][[Special:Log/GamerGeek|<span style="color:orange">☆</span>]] 23:06, 15 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
::It's been confirmed on [http://www.pokemon.com/pokemonxy/en-us the official Pokémon website] as well. [[User:Mathfreak231|--Mathfreak231]] ([[User talk:Mathfreak231|talk]]) 14:18, 20 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Advances in gameplay ==<br />
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The only thing in that subtopic is info about the graphics. Retitle? [[User:Ampere|Ampere]] ([[User talk:Ampere|talk]]) 04:34, 12 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:It's going to have more information added when more information comes out. --[[User:Funktastic~!|It&#39;s Funktastic~!]] ([[User talk:Funktastic~!|talk]]) 04:45, 12 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Link Troubles ==<br />
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On some pages, when reading the 'YES, Generation VI is confirmed.' part, the 'Generation VI' is not a link, merely in bold writing, one such page is the page for Last Resort (Sorry for the lack of link to page, not good with links!).[[User:TurtleLover1999|TurtleLover1999]] ([[User talk:TurtleLover1999|talk]]) 18:54, 22 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:I think that you mean to put this on the [[MediaWiki:Sitenotice]] talk page as it seems to be what you are referring to. Hope that helps a bit. :) --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 07:13, 23 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
::I don't seem to be getting this problem. Is it still happening? '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">--Pokemaster</span>]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">97</span>]]''''' 15:04, 24 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::No,I don't think so. I checked last resort article and the link is working.[[User:Auraguardian197|<span style="color:green">'''Auraguardian'''</span>]][[User talk:Auraguardian197|<span style="color:red">'''197'''</span>]] 16:17, 24 January 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== article for ninfia ==<br />
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could we have an article of the recent announced pokemon, "Ninfia"{{unsigned|Dragon146}}<br />
:[[User:S2daam/Ninfia (Pokémon)|Already is one]]. It is just not in the mainspace right now. --[[User:HoennMaster|<font color="blue">Hoenn</font>]][[User talk:HoennMaster|<font color="green">Master</font>]] 19:18, 12 February 2013 (UTC)<br />
Today his English name was announced by the Pokémon Company - it's '''Sylveon'''. [[User:NP Chilla|NP Chilla]] ([[User talk:NP Chilla|talk]]) 13:08, 14 February 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Sylveon ==<br />
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I think Sylveon should be added to the page as the 4th Generation VI Pokémon to have been revealed/announced. [[User:CounterShift|CounterShift]] ([[User talk:CounterShift|talk]]) 02:25, 22 February 2013 (UTC)<br />
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Sorry, I meant 6th Pokémon. Xerneas and Yveltal appeared first. [[User:CounterShift|CounterShift]] ([[User talk:CounterShift|talk]]) 02:31, 22 February 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Some trivia to be added... ==<br />
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The Japanese logo of the Pokémon games has been changed once again for Generation VI's releases. ~~<font face="Verdana">'''''[[User:LDEJRuff|LDE]][[User talk:LDEJRuff|JRuff]]'''''</font>~~ 5:11, 23 February, 2013 (UTC)<br />
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==Some pretty obvious trivia==<br />
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This is the first time the same games are being released at the same time in Japan and the US. Infernapefan95 00:37, 24 February 2013 (UTC)<br />
:It would be better to wait until we have an official release date. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">--Pokemaster</span>]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">97</span>]]''''' 03:40, 24 February 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Pokemon Sprites/Models ==<br />
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After the game is released, are all Pokemon models going to replace the existing sprites (on the site)?<br />
Or just the Gen. 6? [[User:Garyoak|Garyoak]] ([[User talk:Garyoak|talk]]) 01:07, 10 March 2013 (UTC) !<br />
:We can't give a definitive answer right now. They might still use sprites for say the Pokédex or something. We won't know for sure until the games are released. If there are just models, it's possible the sprites will be replaced. <sup>[[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup>[[User:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">Jo the Marten</span>]]<sup>[[Flygon (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup> [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">ಠ_ಠ</span>]][[Cilan (anime)|<span style="color:#90C870;">♥</span>]] 01:14, 10 March 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== An Error On The Page ==<br />
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The page says that "For the first time, the Pokemon games will be in full 3D." However, Pokemon Coliseum was also completely in 3D, can one of you admins change it to say something like, "For the first time since Pokemon Coliseum, the games will be in full 3D." {{unsigned|Cowsaidmoo}}<br />
:This point is referring to the main series. Colosseum (as well as Stadium 0, 1, 2; XD; and PBR which you missed) is not a main series game. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 07:25, 15 March 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Personally I kind of agree with Cowsaidmoo, could you change it to say "For the first time, the ''main series'' Pokémon games will be in full 3D."{{unsigned|IVsaur}}<br />
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== "(6 new)" ==<br />
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The page mentions that there are only 6 new pokémon, but they recently revealed the rumored new mewtwo form as a new pokémon as opposed to a mewtwo form, so it should have it's own page, and this page should state that there are 7 new pokémon.<br />
[[User:Kitty Box|Kitty Box]] ([[User talk:Kitty Box|talk]]) 23:34, 8 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
:It has not been given a name yet, nor has it been revealed that it is either a new Pokémon or just a form of Mewtwo. When Black Kyurem and White Kyurem where announced, they were presented as new Pokémon first too. You can't definitely say it is a new Pokémon. So unless there will be confirmation about its status, it won't get a page, nor will anything be changed regarding it on this page. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 23:46, 8 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
::That number also automatically updates depending on the number of articles in the {{cat|Generation VI Pokémon}} cat, so it can't be manually changed to reflect current numbers without an addition to the category. So even if it's revealed that it's a brand new pokémon, that number will not change unless we have a name to make an article into (ergo upping the number in the category from 6 to 7). [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * the [[User talk:ArcToraphim|Arc]] [[Special:Contributions/ArcToraphim|Toraph]] 23:59, 8 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
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==Grammar mistake==<br />
The opening line of the article, "The sixth generation of Pokémon, is the sixth installment of the Pokémon series," should not contain a comma between Pokemon and is. The comma adds nothing and doesn't make grammatical sense.<br />
[[User:Ransomedsquirrel|Ransomedsquirrel]] ([[User talk:Ransomedsquirrel|talk]]) 01:46, 10 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
:I agree...I removed it. Thank you :) [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#006400">'''Zesty'''</span>]][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#3CB371">'''Cactus'''</span>]] 01:54, 10 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== "For the first time in the main series, the games will be in full 3D"? ==<br />
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In the article, it says that X & Y will be "For the first time in the main series, the games will be in full 3D". Isn't this an incorrect statement due to [[Pokémon Colosseum]] and [[Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness]]? {{unsigned|?????}} 19:40, 11 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
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No. It says '''main series''' <br />
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== Region ==<br />
Someone change the region to Karosu, because for some reason I cannot.<br />
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The region is called Karosu, for some reason I cannot edit this in. {{unsigned|TheJaceX}}<br />
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:The English name is now Kalos, but the article is protected, so only admins can edit the page. [[User:SpecialStageRoute|Special Stage Route]] ([[User talk:SpecialStageRoute|pit stop]]) 13:31, 14 May 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Debut time ==<br />
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Since it's debuting in the same time for English and Japanese, wouldn't it make sense to remove the "En" and "Jp" as sub boxes? --[[User:Phoenixon|Phoenixon]] ([[User talk:Phoenixon|talk]]) 13:47, 20 May 2013 (UTC)</div>Phoenixonhttps://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:M16&diff=1880113Talk:M162013-04-11T20:42:35Z<p>Phoenixon: /* "Newtwo" or whatever it is.... */ new section</p>
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<div>== Poster ==<br />
Since editing is only for certain people, can someone edit the Pokemon because Pignite, Oshawott and Snivy are on the latest poster. [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]]) 06:02, 15 February 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Where is this new poster? --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 06:46, 15 February 2013 (UTC)<br />
:: [http://www.pokemon.co.jp/anime/movie/ here]. It's the first picture to the right. [[User:Chaossy|Chaossy]] ([[User talk:Chaossy|talk]]) 13:14, 13 March 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::Since mid-February, I had already found the poster. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 14:34, 13 March 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::: Oh okay, I was just pointing that out. [[User:Chaossy|Chaossy]] ([[User talk:Chaossy|talk]]) 15:28, 13 March 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Mewtwo ==<br />
[http://www.pokemon-movie.jp/comment/index.php This page] appears to say that the Mewtwo in this film is indeed the same one from before, just having changed personality-wise after traveling the world. --[[User:The Great Butler|The Great Butler]] ([[User talk:The Great Butler|talk]]) 09:17, 15 February 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Poor lede ==<br />
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The second paragraph of the lede is way too winding and repetitive. I'd edit it myself, but the article's fully protected. Can someone edit it to something like the following, please?<br />
:The movie is set to feature {{p|Genesect}} and {{p|Mewtwo}} in prominent roles. The "Genesect army", a group of five Genesect, will appear in the film, led by a {{Shiny}} Genesect. The other four Genesect represent each of the four [[Drive]]s. The Shiny Genesect is set to appear in ''Best Wishes! Season 2: Episode N'' before the film's release.<br />
That trims it from a bulky 541 characters to a much more readable 344 without losing any signficant information. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 23:13, 21 February 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Sableye and Emolga ==<br />
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A new poster (ttp://www.dotup.org/uploda/www.dotup.org3991961.jpg) shows Emolga and a Sableye on the poster. Could you please add it to the Pokemon on the list. [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]]) 05:58, 27 February 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Pokémon from new trailer ==<br />
I would do it myself, but since I can't: can someone who can edit this page add the following Pokémon: {{p|Sewaddle}} (multiple), {{p|Purrloin}}, {{p|Bellossom}} (multiple), {{p|Sawsbuck}} (Summer Form, multiple), {{p|Deerling}} (Summer Form, multiple), {{p|Persian}}, {{p|Herdier}}, {{p|Butterfree}} (multiple), {{p|Golem}} (multiple), {{p|Kirlia}}. <br />
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Source is found on this page: http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/f228/m16-extreme-speed-genesect-mewtwos-revival-135386/index39.html <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 00:59, 7 March 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Done. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">--Pokemaster</span>]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">97</span>]]''''' 01:14, 7 March 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Ok, nice. I just saw the trailer again and there's also a {{p|Houndour}}. Can anyone who can edit this page add this too? <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 13:05, 7 March 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== New poster for the movie. ==<br />
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Apparently, since I cannot edit this, can someone update the movie poster to include the more recent one (which now includes Mewtwo) to the page? [http://www.serebii.net/movies/genesect/poster2.jpg] Thanks!<br />
(Source: [http://www.serebii.net/movies/genesect/] )<br />
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--[[User:World King|World King]] ([[User talk:World King|talk]]) 02:05, 7 March 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Unfortunately we can't upload an image sourced from Serebii, as they are another fan site. Thanks anyway! [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#006400">'''Zesty'''</span>]][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#3CB371">'''Cactus'''</span>]] 02:08, 7 March 2013 (UTC)<br />
::The [[:File:M16 poster.png|file]] is already uploaded on the Archives, it just hasn't been added to the article yet. '''[[User:Lady Ariel|<span style="color:magenta">Lady</span>]] [[User talk:Lady Ariel|<span style="color:orange">Ariel</span>]]''' 02:30, 7 March 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Genesect anime appearance ==<br />
The entire Genesect Army appeared in [[BW119]], so the mention of their appearance in the main anime needs to be updated. --[[User:The Great Butler|The Great Butler]] ([[User talk:The Great Butler|talk]]) 05:47, 29 March 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Genesect Army==<br />
The part that says Genesect (×5; one {{Shiny}}) needs to be changed to say Genesect ([[Genesect Army]]). [[User:Mokes1995|Infernapefan95]] ([[User talk:Mokes1995|talk]]) 20:36, 31 March 2013 (UTC)<br />
:No need the number! KyleRGiggs 07:25, 2 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== First download event ==<br />
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_local_Japanese_event_Pok%C3%A9mon_distributions_in_Generation_V#Movie_Mewtwo<br />
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This event needs to be added to the Events section on the page. --[[User:The Great Butler|The Great Butler]] ([[User talk:The Great Butler|talk]]) 02:47, 2 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Relationship of BW119. ==<br />
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I am totally speechless. Why have to state the Genesect Army made an appearance at BW119. Then should we state Mewtwo appeared in EP063 in M01? KyleRGiggs 07:28, 2 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Except... it does? --[[User:The Great Butler|The Great Butler]] ([[User talk:The Great Butler|talk]]) 22:33, 2 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Comparing to Mewtwo Returns ==<br />
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I noticed that in the special Mewtwo Returns, Mewtwo is seen appearing in a city similar to New York City, just like the city that is seen in this movie. Is it safe to say that the city that is featured in this movie is similar to the city that Mewtwo was last seen in the anime? Or is that considered fan speculation? Gabecounts112594 02:28, 6 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
:That's considered fan speculation.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#025DA6">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#5A96C5">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EA1A3E">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#F16A81">ire</span>]] 02:41, 7 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
:: Could it be added to trivia? --[[User:Phoenixon|Phoenixon]] ([[User talk:Phoenixon|talk]]) 20:37, 11 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== "Newtwo" or whatever it is.... ==<br />
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Should it be added to this page? Like: A new Pokemon or forme related to Mewtwo will also be appearing in this movie. Currently, it is unknown what this forme/Pokemon's role will be. (etc) <br />
Or are we waiting for more info about it on the 18th...? --[[User:Phoenixon|Phoenixon]] ([[User talk:Phoenixon|talk]]) 20:42, 11 April 2013 (UTC)</div>Phoenixonhttps://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:M16&diff=1880112Talk:M162013-04-11T20:37:06Z<p>Phoenixon: </p>
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<div>== Poster ==<br />
Since editing is only for certain people, can someone edit the Pokemon because Pignite, Oshawott and Snivy are on the latest poster. [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]]) 06:02, 15 February 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Where is this new poster? --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 06:46, 15 February 2013 (UTC)<br />
:: [http://www.pokemon.co.jp/anime/movie/ here]. It's the first picture to the right. [[User:Chaossy|Chaossy]] ([[User talk:Chaossy|talk]]) 13:14, 13 March 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::Since mid-February, I had already found the poster. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 14:34, 13 March 2013 (UTC)<br />
:::: Oh okay, I was just pointing that out. [[User:Chaossy|Chaossy]] ([[User talk:Chaossy|talk]]) 15:28, 13 March 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Mewtwo ==<br />
[http://www.pokemon-movie.jp/comment/index.php This page] appears to say that the Mewtwo in this film is indeed the same one from before, just having changed personality-wise after traveling the world. --[[User:The Great Butler|The Great Butler]] ([[User talk:The Great Butler|talk]]) 09:17, 15 February 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Poor lede ==<br />
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The second paragraph of the lede is way too winding and repetitive. I'd edit it myself, but the article's fully protected. Can someone edit it to something like the following, please?<br />
:The movie is set to feature {{p|Genesect}} and {{p|Mewtwo}} in prominent roles. The "Genesect army", a group of five Genesect, will appear in the film, led by a {{Shiny}} Genesect. The other four Genesect represent each of the four [[Drive]]s. The Shiny Genesect is set to appear in ''Best Wishes! Season 2: Episode N'' before the film's release.<br />
That trims it from a bulky 541 characters to a much more readable 344 without losing any signficant information. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 23:13, 21 February 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Sableye and Emolga ==<br />
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A new poster (ttp://www.dotup.org/uploda/www.dotup.org3991961.jpg) shows Emolga and a Sableye on the poster. Could you please add it to the Pokemon on the list. [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]]) 05:58, 27 February 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Pokémon from new trailer ==<br />
I would do it myself, but since I can't: can someone who can edit this page add the following Pokémon: {{p|Sewaddle}} (multiple), {{p|Purrloin}}, {{p|Bellossom}} (multiple), {{p|Sawsbuck}} (Summer Form, multiple), {{p|Deerling}} (Summer Form, multiple), {{p|Persian}}, {{p|Herdier}}, {{p|Butterfree}} (multiple), {{p|Golem}} (multiple), {{p|Kirlia}}. <br />
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Source is found on this page: http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/f228/m16-extreme-speed-genesect-mewtwos-revival-135386/index39.html <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 00:59, 7 March 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Done. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">--Pokemaster</span>]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">97</span>]]''''' 01:14, 7 March 2013 (UTC)<br />
::Ok, nice. I just saw the trailer again and there's also a {{p|Houndour}}. Can anyone who can edit this page add this too? <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 13:05, 7 March 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== New poster for the movie. ==<br />
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Apparently, since I cannot edit this, can someone update the movie poster to include the more recent one (which now includes Mewtwo) to the page? [http://www.serebii.net/movies/genesect/poster2.jpg] Thanks!<br />
(Source: [http://www.serebii.net/movies/genesect/] )<br />
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--[[User:World King|World King]] ([[User talk:World King|talk]]) 02:05, 7 March 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Unfortunately we can't upload an image sourced from Serebii, as they are another fan site. Thanks anyway! [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#006400">'''Zesty'''</span>]][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#3CB371">'''Cactus'''</span>]] 02:08, 7 March 2013 (UTC)<br />
::The [[:File:M16 poster.png|file]] is already uploaded on the Archives, it just hasn't been added to the article yet. '''[[User:Lady Ariel|<span style="color:magenta">Lady</span>]] [[User talk:Lady Ariel|<span style="color:orange">Ariel</span>]]''' 02:30, 7 March 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Genesect anime appearance ==<br />
The entire Genesect Army appeared in [[BW119]], so the mention of their appearance in the main anime needs to be updated. --[[User:The Great Butler|The Great Butler]] ([[User talk:The Great Butler|talk]]) 05:47, 29 March 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Genesect Army==<br />
The part that says Genesect (×5; one {{Shiny}}) needs to be changed to say Genesect ([[Genesect Army]]). [[User:Mokes1995|Infernapefan95]] ([[User talk:Mokes1995|talk]]) 20:36, 31 March 2013 (UTC)<br />
:No need the number! KyleRGiggs 07:25, 2 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== First download event ==<br />
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_local_Japanese_event_Pok%C3%A9mon_distributions_in_Generation_V#Movie_Mewtwo<br />
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This event needs to be added to the Events section on the page. --[[User:The Great Butler|The Great Butler]] ([[User talk:The Great Butler|talk]]) 02:47, 2 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Relationship of BW119. ==<br />
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I am totally speechless. Why have to state the Genesect Army made an appearance at BW119. Then should we state Mewtwo appeared in EP063 in M01? KyleRGiggs 07:28, 2 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
:Except... it does? --[[User:The Great Butler|The Great Butler]] ([[User talk:The Great Butler|talk]]) 22:33, 2 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
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== Comparing to Mewtwo Returns ==<br />
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I noticed that in the special Mewtwo Returns, Mewtwo is seen appearing in a city similar to New York City, just like the city that is seen in this movie. Is it safe to say that the city that is featured in this movie is similar to the city that Mewtwo was last seen in the anime? Or is that considered fan speculation? Gabecounts112594 02:28, 6 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
:That's considered fan speculation.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#025DA6">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#5A96C5">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EA1A3E">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#F16A81">ire</span>]] 02:41, 7 April 2013 (UTC)<br />
:: Could it be added to trivia? --[[User:Phoenixon|Phoenixon]] ([[User talk:Phoenixon|talk]]) 20:37, 11 April 2013 (UTC)</div>Phoenixonhttps://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:M01&diff=1880111Talk:M012013-04-11T20:33:13Z<p>Phoenixon: /* Spoilers ending..? */ new section</p>
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<div>== CGI ==<br />
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The CGI effects were made for the Japanese DVD of it and not for the dub. --Qwertybub3 02:32, 01 June 2007 (UTC)<br />
:Seeing as the DVD was only released in 2000 and the Japanese VHS with the CGI in late 1999, I'm inclined to think the dub got the new CGI first. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]]<sub>[[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]]</sub> 12:33, 1 June 2007 (UTC)<br />
::If I remember correctly, something was said on the audio commentary about the CGI being added for the dub. Yes, I listen to audio commentaries. -[[User:Happy Mask Man|Happy Mask Man]] 17:48, 1 June 2007 (UTC)<br />
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== The movie and the anime ==<br />
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Could anyone tell me when the movie timeline is placed compared to the timeline of the anime? :)<br />
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== Who's that pokemon? ==<br />
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In the error section of this page it says that meowth gave the wrong names of pokemon. What If he meant to do that, not making it an error?<br />
: I agree, but I thought [[Team Rocket]] made the mistake? Anyway, it only shows their lack of knowledge when it comes to [[Pokémon]] silhouettes, if you catch my drift ... [[User:Tesh|Tesh]] 22:36, 22 July 2007 (UTC)<br />
:: He didn't do that in the original version, only in the English dub. Don't believe that excuse Michael Haigney and Norman Grossfeld gave that they were trying to make Team Rocket look stupid. They're only trying to cover for their mistakes. --[[User:PAK Man|PAK Man]] <sup>[[User talk:PAK Man|Talk]]</sup> 00:23, 23 July 2007 (UTC)<br />
::: Ahh, I haven't seen the Japanese (original) version, I wouldn't understand it anyway. However, have you noticed that, [[James]] has a great knowledge of Pokémon? Probably from all of those tutors from his childhood... [[User:Tesh|Tesh]] 22:37, 23 July 2007 (UTC)<br />
::::This is what is actually said in the commentary:<br />
::"''That is a mistake that we made. We actually made a mistake when we did the first draft of the script and we actually recorded that incorrectly. We did catch ourselves.''"<br />
::"''Right. I think the son of the sound effects editor noticed it watching the film.''"<br />
::"''Right. And [this] was before it was completely done and [he] pointed it out to us and we ultimately made - maybe it was laziness or maybe it was genius, I don't know (laughs) - decided to keep the mistake in: a) to make something fun for the kids to spot and also we realised that, well, would Team Rocket actually know every Pokémon and be experts to see the silhouettes and point them out correctly? And we decided ultimately that they can make a mistake so we can make a mistake.''"<br />
::::That is a long way from your claims, PAK Man, so lay off the 4Kids bashing.<br />
::::As for James's knowledge, that is something that has been developed since movie 1. Were his cards even seen before AG? --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]]</sup> 22:52, 23 July 2007 (UTC)<br />
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== Blastoise, Charizard, Venusaur ==<br />
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If I remember right, didn't Mewtwo have those clones pre-made, and then just faced them off against Shellshocker, Ash's Charizard, and Bruteroot? That'd mean that Togepi wasn't the only uncloned Pokémon. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">TTE</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#0000FF">chidna</span>]]''' 22:14, 3 October 2007 (UTC)<br />
:Yeah, he did already have them.--[[User:Starlight the ampharos|Starlight_the_ampharos]] 21:50, 11 February 2009 (UTC)<br />
::<s>That doesn't mean they ''weren't'' uncloned. In the Origin of Mewtwo, they were Bulbasaurtwo, Charmandertwo, and Squirtletwo, all cloned by Dr. Fuji.</s> {{unsigned|PH1RESTRIKE|21:59, 11 February 2009}}<br />
:::Oh wait, scratch that. <span style="border: 1px solid">[[User:PH1RESTRIKE|<span style="background-color:Blue; color:#78C850"> 1337Fire </span>]][[User talk:PH1RESTRIKE|<span style="background-color:#FFFFFF; color:Green"> ►strike! </span>]]</span> 22:07, 11 February 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Fearow Trainer? ==<br />
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"When the three other Pokémon trainers are taking off, Cory is seen doing it twice, the second time on a Fearow."<br />
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I'm pretty sure that's not true. I remember on a fansite, they claimed that it's a different trainer. The Fearow trainer is a girl, too. I think she's in a crowd a few minutes before the trainers leave for New Island.<br />
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Oh, and I think that the DVD commentary confirms this, and that she didn't make it to the island. [[User:Seritinajii|Seritinajii]] 12:29, 11 November 2007 (UTC)<br />
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I noticed this as well, cuz I zoomed in on the trainer and i think it was som blonde girl with pigtails that you can see near while Officer Jenny was talking. [[User:ShellShocker|ShellShocker]] 10:34, 29 July 2008<br />
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== Only film canon to the anime? ==<br />
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At least in non-Japanese languages, I'm sure Ash remembers having seen a Lugia from the Orange Islands when he meets [[Silver (Whirl Islands)|Silver]] and its parent. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 17:17, 13 November 2007 (UTC)<br />
:Okay then. Go ahead and add it; I guess I forgot that.--[[User:Urutapu|Loveはドコ?]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] <small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 00:14, 14 November 2007 (UTC)<br />
::The question is, why would any of them not be? Sure, Ash may not remember exactly, but remember, the show can't just assume everyone's seen all of it. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">TTE</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#0000FF">chidna</span>]]''' 02:03, 14 November 2007 (UTC)<br />
:::Well, yeah, that's why I used "''confirmed'' as canon," since the other movies may very well be, but it's not obvious because, like the majority of anime movies, the main series may not show any sort of acknowledgment of things that happened in movies.--[[User:Urutapu|Loveはドコ?]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] <small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 02:52, 14 November 2007 (UTC)<br />
::::Yeah, but then again, sometimes, the series doesn't even acknowledge it's own episodes, no matter how important they really are (eg. Ash forgetting what the P1 Grand Prix was in the Tyrogue episode despite participating, becoming champion of, and loaning his [[Primeape|champ pokemon]] to the runner up, May claiming that she used Skitty in the Fallabor contest when she actually used Beautifly, Ash forgetting double battles despite the fact that the reason why he won HALF of the Orange League Badges IS because of Double Battles, etc, etc.) [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 11:17, 26 August 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Mewtwo's Origin for rating? ==<br />
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I don't get it, how could "Mewtwo's Origin" prevent the theatrical version from keeping its "G" rating? [[User:ShinyRayquaza|ShinyRayquaza]] 07:29, 27 January 2008 (UTC)<br />
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"Mewtwo's Origin" is a little dark for younger audiences. [[User:Animine|Animine]] 18:24, 6 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
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:You say 'a little dark,' I say 3 pokemon and a human die in it. Not an ambiguous death like Ash's, a clear death. [[User:Legionaireb|Legionaireb]] 01:55, 30 July 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Just a question. ==<br />
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Anybody know who composed the music/background music for this movie? D: [[User:Takoto|<span style="color:#2E0854"><b>Takoto</b>!</span>]] 11:22, 3 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Team Aqua Logo? ==<br />
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I watched the movie on VHS after reading this aritcle and I think the Trivia should be changed. The so called logo on the bandana is simply a skull and cross bones not an "A". If it was related to anything it should say that it resembles a koffing. Thats my opinion. [[User:Rucario64]]<br />
:Opinion goes on forums. '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <span class="explain" title="Optimus35"><sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc></span>]]<sub>[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]</sub>''09:35 1 Jul 2008'''''<br />
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It is neither the Team Aqua logo, nor a normal Skull and Crossbones. The emblem on the trainers head is the emblem that appears on the stomach of the pokemon Koffing and Weezing. [[User:Legionaireb|Legionaireb]] 04:40, 23 July 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Retcon? ==<br />
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Looking back at Ash's revival, it may have been the power of Aura that revived him. --[[User:Wikifixer|Wikifixer]] 12:57, 1 September 2008 (UTC)<br />
:Do you have proof? the only thing i remember that revived him were the tears of the Pokémon that cried when they saw him turn to stone; just as the legend said. --'''[[User:InuMimi|<span style="color:#CC99CC">いぬ</span>]][[User talk:InuMimi|<span style="color:#CCCCCC">みみ</span>]]''' 22:02, 3 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Confused ==<br />
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Okay, so I'm a bit confused about the short "Mewtwo's origin"...there is a CD drama, right? is that just a plain audio CD? If so, then what is the 12 minute clip that was cut from the dubbed version of the 1st movie? And what's with Madam Boss and Miyamoto? All i know is Miyamoto saw Mew in the mountains and hasn't been heard from again. --'''[[User:InuMimi|<span style="color:#CC99CC">いぬ</span>]][[User talk:InuMimi|<span style="color:#CCCCCC">みみ</span>]]''' 22:02, 3 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Continuity ==<br />
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I know that there are conventions that determine where the movies take place in the Pokemon storyline, and that said conventions place this movie between The Pi-Kahuna and Make Room For Gloom, but I believe it takes place much later: Specifically, between Pallet Party Panic and A Scare in the Air. My material evidence is that when the brainwashed Nurse Joy in the movie requests that Ash and company release all their pokemon, there is no sign of Pidgeotto. Less concrete is my feeling that, up to the point of The Pi-Kahuna, Ash had not accomplished anything that would have gained him sufficient notoriety to cause trainers from as far away as Johto (as indicated by the presence of a Donphan in the party of the trainer that challenges Ash in the movie's opening) to specifically seek Ash out. It would require a feat as significant as placing in the top 16 of his first Pokemon League Competition. I would like others to weigh in on this issue. [[User:Legionaireb|Legionaireb]] 05:10, 24 July 2009 (UTC)<br />
:Just because someone has a non-native Poke to the current region, doesn't mean they're from that region, sure it seems like that alot, but it doesn't always have to...Just sayin...--[[User:PsychicRider|<sup style="color:#000000;">'''Psychic'''</sup>]][[User talk:PsychicRider|<sub style="color:#000000;">'''Rider'''</sub>]]''<small>''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|<sup style="color:#000000;">'''☮'''</sup>]]''</small> 05:13, 24 July 2009 (UTC)<br />
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==Two issues==<br />
One user added the fact that Ash's Charizard obeyed him in this movie, but I don't find it believable because Ash never gave orders to Charizard and that Charizard attacked Mewtwo without warning. Does anybody agree?<br />
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Also, would it be proper to mention that the movie's dub title is a reference to Star Wars Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back? --[[User:Rockersk08|<font color="black">rock</font>]][[User talk:Rockersk08|<font color="blue">ersk</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Rockersk08|<font color="red">08</font>]] 23:07, 29 July 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:I won't comment on your first point, though I do believe that the Star Wars note should be added to the trivia section, especially since articles on episodes have similar notes. [[User:Legionaireb|Legionaireb]] 01:52, 30 July 2009 (UTC)<br />
:: Thanks for input. I put it on the page, so let's see how it goes. I'm still waiting for comment on the first topic I put. --[[User:Rockersk08|<font color="black">rock</font>]][[User talk:Rockersk08|<font color="blue">ersk</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Rockersk08|<font color="red">08</font>]] 01:57, 30 July 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== New Articles ==<br />
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I suggest the creation of (at least) 3 new articles: one for Clone Pokemon, one for the clone Pikachu, and one for the clone Meowth. The clone Pikachu and Meowth deserve their own pages because they have personalities and abilities distinct from their originals. A page on Clone Pokemon can refer to Pokemon created by Mewtwo and the his creators, as well as Fossil Pokemon. [[User:Legionaireb|Legionaireb]] 02:27, 30 July 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:Please do, and when you do, make a COMPLETE list of the clone Pokemon [[User:Jdrawer|Jdrawer]] 16:18, 22 June 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Wrong information about removed scenes ==<br />
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I am pretty much sure that the scenes about Mewtwo's childhood, Amber etc weren't removed from the original movie, they rather didn't exist back then yet! The first movie aired in July 1998 in Japan, the prequel in September 1999 as a "radio drama" in Japan, later on as a short anime. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mewtwo#In_anime_and_related_media And that's what I also remember.<br />
Maybe it's not important, maybe I'm just that interested in this because I highly hated the prequel.<br />
Since til now I was only here to edit minor mistakes, preferably about German Names etc, I couldn't change it myself if my complaint proves itself to be correct.<small>- ''unsigned comment from {{u|Aicona}} ([[User talk:Aicona|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Aicona|contribs]]) ''</small><br />
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:It was removed from the American version of Pokemon 2000[[User:Jdrawer|Jdrawer]] 16:19, 22 June 2011 (UTC)<br />
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two things about the coment just before mine: 1: I have the origin of Mewtwo short on my English copy, of [[m01|the first movie]], and 2, are you sure you mean the american version of [[m02|Pokemon 2000?]] you need to be carefull about that, just to let you know, nothing negative. [[User:Christian Woods| Christian Woods]] [[User talk:Christian Woods| Azu!]] 05:48, 14 November 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Sentret ==<br />
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I was watching the movie and there is a Pokémon that looks like it. And it's in the article. Is this speculation or fact?--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|<span style="color:#003366">Midnight</span>]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|<span style="color:#8C92AC">''Blue''</span>]]''' 01:26, 12 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Hmm... I'll go check. '''[[Team Rocket|<small><span style="color: #550000;">R.A.</span></small>]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Hunter</font></small>]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Blade</font></small>]]''' 16:43, 12 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
[http://i50.tinypic.com/2m6agwj.jpg]<br><br />
Eh, sorry it's so big. But no, it's not a Sentret. That's a very {{tt|badly drawn Eevee|even if it isn't, the tail isn't a Sentret's}} in the middle, and the one on the left is either a Mankey or a Meowth. The animation isn't all that great, being the first movie and all, but it's not a Sentret either way. I also went back to the beginning of the movie, and there isn't a Sentret in the Pokémon Center during the first storm scene either. '''[[Team Rocket|<small><span style="color: #550000;">R.A.</span></small>]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Hunter</font></small>]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Blade</font></small>]]''' 18:48, 12 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Meowth and clone talk ==<br />
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Why is the subject about Meowth and his cloen talking about the moon when istead they talk about learning the lesson about what's the same and what's different? [[User:Jedi Striker|Jedi Striker]] 16:49, 8 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Because he talks about how they share the same moon.... '''[[Team Rocket|<small><span style="color: #550000;">R.A.</span></small>]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Hunter</font></small>]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Blade</font></small>]]''' 20:35, 8 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Errors ==<br />
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If [http://www.ffufi.net/pokemon/M1_Mistakes.html this] website is correct, should we add these? - <span style="background:#96EAFF;border: 1px solid#0000FF">'''[[User:Vhayes1992|<b style="color:#FF0000">Vhayes</b>]][[User talk:Vhayes1992|<b style="color:#00027F">1992</b>]]</span> 18:19, 8 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
:We have them on the page already. There's an <span class="plainlinks">[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/M01#Errors errors]</span> section. '''[[Team Rocket|<small><span style="color: #550000;">R.A.</span></small>]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Hunter</font></small>]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Blade</font></small>]]''' 20:37, 8 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==Blu-Ray==<br />
I know this is probably not worth pursuing further, but the wikipedia page for Mewtwo Strikes Back says that the film will be released on Blu-ray disc on April 19, 2011. Can anybody cite this?--[[User:Skulblaka Shurtugal|Skulblaka Shurtugal]] 19:27, 23 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Possibly not an error? ==<br />
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When Nurse joy said she'd rather be in Mewtwo's storm, than watch the Pokémon fighting, didn't Mewtwo say earlier "They [cloned Pokémon] will remain safe on this island with me, while my storm destroys the planet." when he was capturing all the Pokémon? [[User:Whatinthew0rld|Whatinthew0rld]] 18:04, 15 June 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::She said this sentence towards the end of the movie. [[User:Ruixiang95|Ruixiang95]] 11:30, 21 June 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== New error ==<br />
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Added in the error about Fergus stating all his pokémon were water types when he has Nidoqueen. [[User:Moffooo|Moffooo]] 17:45, 26 June 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Danish sub, "Vingingerne" ==<br />
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The trivia in the article says "In the Danish version Brock says 'Jeg vidste ikke vikingerne stadig fantes.', and Ash replies 'Jo, men de turnere mest i Sverige.'". I have not seen the Danish dub, but if that is correct then that is most certainly a reference to the Swedish dansband [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikingarna_(band) Vikingarna]. I don't know if this is something that should be added to the article though.<br />
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--[[User:Phil832|Phil832]] 22:29, 2 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Togepi #152 ==<br />
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The article lists Togepi being listed as Pokémon #152 as an error.<br />
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I'm pretty sure back in those days, Pokémon and their numbers were meant to signify the order of their discovery as a '''live specimen.''' Which is why prehistoric Pokémon have higher numbers, & why Mewtwo is before Mew. It was also thrown around that the numbers was the order of their induction into being classified as a Pokémon. Plus both were a way around explaining why everyone in/on Pokémon games/anime/merchandise kept saying there were only 150 ('''known''') Pokémon.<br />
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I think at some point this numbering explanation has been forgotten/abandoned by most fans/official sources.<br />
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This movie also takes place before much of the structure to the Generation II and the Pokédex numbering in the games in general was laid down. So if anything, Togepi's number should be Trivia not a error. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] 17:31, 6 March 2012 (UTC)<br />
:It stays as an error because if I remember correctly DVD release came out after the Generation II games were introduced in America. ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|<span style="color:teal">Frozen</span>]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|<span style="color:green">Fennec</span>]]'' 17:54, 6 March 2012 (UTC)<br />
::Your theory about Pokédex numbers is incorrect... there'd be several exceptions if that were the case. First off, it is stated that Todd's photo of Aerodactyl was the first picture ever taken of it, implying that it had never been seen before then. However, Dratini was in an episode earlier in the series, and his number is higher than Aerodactyl's. Same thing with Snorlax. Also, the legendary birds... they were known to exist in the second episode. As for Mew... I'm pretty sure that she had been seen by at least someone in South America much earlier. Which brings up another point... who has to be the one seeing these Pokémon before adding them to the Pokédex? Could a South American native's sighting be enough or does it need to be a researcher? Also, Mewtwo was most likely never seen by anyone with that authority, since the only people who knew of him were the scientists who created him (who were all killed), Team Rocket (who wouldn't have reported his existance), or trainers like Gary who battled him (who wouldn't have the "authority" as a researcher of adding him), so he'd never have been added to the Pokédex (and in the anime, he wasn't shown to be). So yeah, that definitely wouldn't work if we're talking anime. If we're talking games, it still wouldn't work, since Mew gave birth to Mewtwo, meaning that the scientists must have had a living Mew before Mewtwo was around, and their sighting of Mew would have listed her in the Pokédex before Mewtwo. [[User:Dannyjenn|Dannyjenn]] 04:19, 20 March 2012 (UTC)<br />
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==Should this be noted?==<br />
I read on dogasu.bulbagarden.net that in response to [[EP038]], there was a message before this movie saying that the movie had no flashing lights and it was safe to watch. Should it be noted here? [[User:JacobTheDoduo|JacobTheDoduo]] 23:17, 18 March 2012 (UTC)<br />
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==Possible incorrect Trivia / Errors==<br />
- "''Despite numerous mentions and hints that Charizard, as well as its pre-evolution forms will die if the flame on their tail goes out; both the Charizard clone and Charmandertwo were submerged in liquid with no visible flame while in their incubation chambers.''"<br />
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I don't know about the Charmandertwo (I never saw the Mewtwo's Origin short), but I re-watched Mewtwo Strikes Back and the Charizard clone is never seen without a flame. This could be because my DVD is fullscreen and that part may have been cut off the edge of the screen, so I could be wrong here.<br />
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- "''This is the second time Ash dies and then comes back to life, the first being in The Tower of Terror.''"<br />
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I agree with this, although it's inconsistent with Bulbapedia's page for The Tower of Terror (which says Ash was knocked unconscious, not killed).<br />
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- "''In the beginning of the English dub of the feature film, Raymond's Machamp is shown coming out of the Poké Ball twice.''"<br />
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Was that just in the dub? Because if not, I don't think that's an error... it looked to me like an instant-replay (which is odd since that's not done ever, but it seems more like trivia than an error). But if it was only in the dub, then yeah, it's probably an error.<br />
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- "''Mewtwo is mistakenly colored a light blue instead of a light purple on the VHS and DVD cases.''"<br />
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I have the DVD and he's not blue. Part of him does look blue, but other parts of him are definitely purple. This is most likely just due to the printing, and not an error. Unless it was an error and they fixed it or something. [[User:Dannyjenn|Dannyjenn]] 21:31, 20 March 2012 (UTC)<br />
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== dub edit dispute ==<br />
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In the dub edits section it says they made Mewtwo into a stereotypical cold-hearted villain who just wanted world domination. BULL CRAP! Did whoever wrote that even watch the dub? Mewtwo felt betrayed due to the words and actions of Dr, Fuji and Giovanni. As such, he developed a general (and possibly racist) distrust of all humams, and thus wanted to purge the world of their influence by killing them all, as well as the pokemon who shamed themselves by submitting to the humans' will. Where in there does it say "I'm evil and i wanna rule the world"? I know 4Kids isn't the most reputable company, but at least give them ''some'' credit. [[User:Morgil27|Morgil27]] 04:54, 16 April 2012 (UTC)<br />
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== First japanese trailer, completely different story? ==<br />
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A friend of mine gave me this link, it seems to be the first trailer (japanese) of the movie, but there are some scenes that weren't used in the film itself, it's kinda strange o.o<br />
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b70GRNYnacI&feature=youtu.be --[[User:AfO|AfO]] 02:05, 8 May 2012 (UTC)<br />
:Yes, that's already stated on the page. <sup>[[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup>[[User:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">Jo the Marten</span>]]<sup>[[Flygon (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup> [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">ಠ_ಠ</span>]][[Cilan (anime)|<span style="color:#90C870;">♥</span>]] 02:07, 8 May 2012 (UTC)<br />
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== Continuity Citation ==<br />
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Why exactly does it say this movie takes place between EP067 Pi-Kahuna and EP068 Make Room for Gloom, from what I've read theirs really no evidence it takes place here short of the original Japanese episode that would have been airing this week if EP038 Electric Soldier Porygon hadn't occurred. This really doesn't seem like a strong case especially because it seems to contradict the movie on 2 factors.<br />
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1)The Pirate Trainer knew who Ash was at the start of the Movie, though Ash hadn't accomplished anything noteworthy yet.<br />
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2)Pidgeotto is missing form this movie.<br />
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Though I'm sure its been suggested before, and I don't want to look like a Jerk ranting on Bulbapedia, but shouldn't this take place after EP081 because Ash just released his Pidgeot and now only has 4 Pokemon (Pikachu, Bulbasaur, Squirtle and Charizard) on hand, not to mention this was originally planned to be the movie finale to the series before it was extended. Really I just want solid evidence it takes place their and not just a release date. [[User:Bith|Bith]] 03:05, 10 May 2012 (UTC)<br />
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== Spoilers ending..? ==<br />
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I'm pretty sure this is the only movie page that uses the "Spoilers End Here" template. Why is that? Also, I believe it should not be used in the first place, since there are also spoilers in the Trivia section. Should it be removed?<br />
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== Spoilers ending..? ==<br />
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I'm pretty sure this is the only movie page that uses the "Spoilers End Here" template. Why is that? Also, I believe it should not be used in the first place, since there are also spoilers in the Trivia section. Should it be removed? --[[User:Phoenixon|Phoenixon]] ([[User talk:Phoenixon|talk]]) 20:33, 11 April 2013 (UTC)</div>Phoenixonhttps://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:M01&diff=1880110Talk:M012013-04-11T20:32:56Z<p>Phoenixon: /* Spoilers ending..? */ new section</p>
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<div>== CGI ==<br />
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The CGI effects were made for the Japanese DVD of it and not for the dub. --Qwertybub3 02:32, 01 June 2007 (UTC)<br />
:Seeing as the DVD was only released in 2000 and the Japanese VHS with the CGI in late 1999, I'm inclined to think the dub got the new CGI first. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]]<sub>[[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]]</sub> 12:33, 1 June 2007 (UTC)<br />
::If I remember correctly, something was said on the audio commentary about the CGI being added for the dub. Yes, I listen to audio commentaries. -[[User:Happy Mask Man|Happy Mask Man]] 17:48, 1 June 2007 (UTC)<br />
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== The movie and the anime ==<br />
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Could anyone tell me when the movie timeline is placed compared to the timeline of the anime? :)<br />
[[User:Amargaard|Amargaard]] 19:13, 19 July 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Who's that pokemon? ==<br />
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In the error section of this page it says that meowth gave the wrong names of pokemon. What If he meant to do that, not making it an error?<br />
: I agree, but I thought [[Team Rocket]] made the mistake? Anyway, it only shows their lack of knowledge when it comes to [[Pokémon]] silhouettes, if you catch my drift ... [[User:Tesh|Tesh]] 22:36, 22 July 2007 (UTC)<br />
:: He didn't do that in the original version, only in the English dub. Don't believe that excuse Michael Haigney and Norman Grossfeld gave that they were trying to make Team Rocket look stupid. They're only trying to cover for their mistakes. --[[User:PAK Man|PAK Man]] <sup>[[User talk:PAK Man|Talk]]</sup> 00:23, 23 July 2007 (UTC)<br />
::: Ahh, I haven't seen the Japanese (original) version, I wouldn't understand it anyway. However, have you noticed that, [[James]] has a great knowledge of Pokémon? Probably from all of those tutors from his childhood... [[User:Tesh|Tesh]] 22:37, 23 July 2007 (UTC)<br />
::::This is what is actually said in the commentary:<br />
::"''That is a mistake that we made. We actually made a mistake when we did the first draft of the script and we actually recorded that incorrectly. We did catch ourselves.''"<br />
::"''Right. I think the son of the sound effects editor noticed it watching the film.''"<br />
::"''Right. And [this] was before it was completely done and [he] pointed it out to us and we ultimately made - maybe it was laziness or maybe it was genius, I don't know (laughs) - decided to keep the mistake in: a) to make something fun for the kids to spot and also we realised that, well, would Team Rocket actually know every Pokémon and be experts to see the silhouettes and point them out correctly? And we decided ultimately that they can make a mistake so we can make a mistake.''"<br />
::::That is a long way from your claims, PAK Man, so lay off the 4Kids bashing.<br />
::::As for James's knowledge, that is something that has been developed since movie 1. Were his cards even seen before AG? --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]]</sup> 22:52, 23 July 2007 (UTC)<br />
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== Blastoise, Charizard, Venusaur ==<br />
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If I remember right, didn't Mewtwo have those clones pre-made, and then just faced them off against Shellshocker, Ash's Charizard, and Bruteroot? That'd mean that Togepi wasn't the only uncloned Pokémon. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">TTE</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#0000FF">chidna</span>]]''' 22:14, 3 October 2007 (UTC)<br />
:Yeah, he did already have them.--[[User:Starlight the ampharos|Starlight_the_ampharos]] 21:50, 11 February 2009 (UTC)<br />
::<s>That doesn't mean they ''weren't'' uncloned. In the Origin of Mewtwo, they were Bulbasaurtwo, Charmandertwo, and Squirtletwo, all cloned by Dr. Fuji.</s> {{unsigned|PH1RESTRIKE|21:59, 11 February 2009}}<br />
:::Oh wait, scratch that. <span style="border: 1px solid">[[User:PH1RESTRIKE|<span style="background-color:Blue; color:#78C850"> 1337Fire </span>]][[User talk:PH1RESTRIKE|<span style="background-color:#FFFFFF; color:Green"> ►strike! </span>]]</span> 22:07, 11 February 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Fearow Trainer? ==<br />
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"When the three other Pokémon trainers are taking off, Cory is seen doing it twice, the second time on a Fearow."<br />
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I'm pretty sure that's not true. I remember on a fansite, they claimed that it's a different trainer. The Fearow trainer is a girl, too. I think she's in a crowd a few minutes before the trainers leave for New Island.<br />
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Oh, and I think that the DVD commentary confirms this, and that she didn't make it to the island. [[User:Seritinajii|Seritinajii]] 12:29, 11 November 2007 (UTC)<br />
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I noticed this as well, cuz I zoomed in on the trainer and i think it was som blonde girl with pigtails that you can see near while Officer Jenny was talking. [[User:ShellShocker|ShellShocker]] 10:34, 29 July 2008<br />
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== Only film canon to the anime? ==<br />
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At least in non-Japanese languages, I'm sure Ash remembers having seen a Lugia from the Orange Islands when he meets [[Silver (Whirl Islands)|Silver]] and its parent. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 17:17, 13 November 2007 (UTC)<br />
:Okay then. Go ahead and add it; I guess I forgot that.--[[User:Urutapu|Loveはドコ?]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] <small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 00:14, 14 November 2007 (UTC)<br />
::The question is, why would any of them not be? Sure, Ash may not remember exactly, but remember, the show can't just assume everyone's seen all of it. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">TTE</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#0000FF">chidna</span>]]''' 02:03, 14 November 2007 (UTC)<br />
:::Well, yeah, that's why I used "''confirmed'' as canon," since the other movies may very well be, but it's not obvious because, like the majority of anime movies, the main series may not show any sort of acknowledgment of things that happened in movies.--[[User:Urutapu|Loveはドコ?]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] <small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 02:52, 14 November 2007 (UTC)<br />
::::Yeah, but then again, sometimes, the series doesn't even acknowledge it's own episodes, no matter how important they really are (eg. Ash forgetting what the P1 Grand Prix was in the Tyrogue episode despite participating, becoming champion of, and loaning his [[Primeape|champ pokemon]] to the runner up, May claiming that she used Skitty in the Fallabor contest when she actually used Beautifly, Ash forgetting double battles despite the fact that the reason why he won HALF of the Orange League Badges IS because of Double Battles, etc, etc.) [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 11:17, 26 August 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Mewtwo's Origin for rating? ==<br />
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I don't get it, how could "Mewtwo's Origin" prevent the theatrical version from keeping its "G" rating? [[User:ShinyRayquaza|ShinyRayquaza]] 07:29, 27 January 2008 (UTC)<br />
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"Mewtwo's Origin" is a little dark for younger audiences. [[User:Animine|Animine]] 18:24, 6 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
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:You say 'a little dark,' I say 3 pokemon and a human die in it. Not an ambiguous death like Ash's, a clear death. [[User:Legionaireb|Legionaireb]] 01:55, 30 July 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Just a question. ==<br />
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Anybody know who composed the music/background music for this movie? D: [[User:Takoto|<span style="color:#2E0854"><b>Takoto</b>!</span>]] 11:22, 3 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Team Aqua Logo? ==<br />
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I watched the movie on VHS after reading this aritcle and I think the Trivia should be changed. The so called logo on the bandana is simply a skull and cross bones not an "A". If it was related to anything it should say that it resembles a koffing. Thats my opinion. [[User:Rucario64]]<br />
:Opinion goes on forums. '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <span class="explain" title="Optimus35"><sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc></span>]]<sub>[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]</sub>''09:35 1 Jul 2008'''''<br />
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It is neither the Team Aqua logo, nor a normal Skull and Crossbones. The emblem on the trainers head is the emblem that appears on the stomach of the pokemon Koffing and Weezing. [[User:Legionaireb|Legionaireb]] 04:40, 23 July 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Retcon? ==<br />
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Looking back at Ash's revival, it may have been the power of Aura that revived him. --[[User:Wikifixer|Wikifixer]] 12:57, 1 September 2008 (UTC)<br />
:Do you have proof? the only thing i remember that revived him were the tears of the Pokémon that cried when they saw him turn to stone; just as the legend said. --'''[[User:InuMimi|<span style="color:#CC99CC">いぬ</span>]][[User talk:InuMimi|<span style="color:#CCCCCC">みみ</span>]]''' 22:02, 3 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Confused ==<br />
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Okay, so I'm a bit confused about the short "Mewtwo's origin"...there is a CD drama, right? is that just a plain audio CD? If so, then what is the 12 minute clip that was cut from the dubbed version of the 1st movie? And what's with Madam Boss and Miyamoto? All i know is Miyamoto saw Mew in the mountains and hasn't been heard from again. --'''[[User:InuMimi|<span style="color:#CC99CC">いぬ</span>]][[User talk:InuMimi|<span style="color:#CCCCCC">みみ</span>]]''' 22:02, 3 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Continuity ==<br />
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I know that there are conventions that determine where the movies take place in the Pokemon storyline, and that said conventions place this movie between The Pi-Kahuna and Make Room For Gloom, but I believe it takes place much later: Specifically, between Pallet Party Panic and A Scare in the Air. My material evidence is that when the brainwashed Nurse Joy in the movie requests that Ash and company release all their pokemon, there is no sign of Pidgeotto. Less concrete is my feeling that, up to the point of The Pi-Kahuna, Ash had not accomplished anything that would have gained him sufficient notoriety to cause trainers from as far away as Johto (as indicated by the presence of a Donphan in the party of the trainer that challenges Ash in the movie's opening) to specifically seek Ash out. It would require a feat as significant as placing in the top 16 of his first Pokemon League Competition. I would like others to weigh in on this issue. [[User:Legionaireb|Legionaireb]] 05:10, 24 July 2009 (UTC)<br />
:Just because someone has a non-native Poke to the current region, doesn't mean they're from that region, sure it seems like that alot, but it doesn't always have to...Just sayin...--[[User:PsychicRider|<sup style="color:#000000;">'''Psychic'''</sup>]][[User talk:PsychicRider|<sub style="color:#000000;">'''Rider'''</sub>]]''<small>''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|<sup style="color:#000000;">'''☮'''</sup>]]''</small> 05:13, 24 July 2009 (UTC)<br />
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==Two issues==<br />
One user added the fact that Ash's Charizard obeyed him in this movie, but I don't find it believable because Ash never gave orders to Charizard and that Charizard attacked Mewtwo without warning. Does anybody agree?<br />
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Also, would it be proper to mention that the movie's dub title is a reference to Star Wars Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back? --[[User:Rockersk08|<font color="black">rock</font>]][[User talk:Rockersk08|<font color="blue">ersk</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Rockersk08|<font color="red">08</font>]] 23:07, 29 July 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:I won't comment on your first point, though I do believe that the Star Wars note should be added to the trivia section, especially since articles on episodes have similar notes. [[User:Legionaireb|Legionaireb]] 01:52, 30 July 2009 (UTC)<br />
:: Thanks for input. I put it on the page, so let's see how it goes. I'm still waiting for comment on the first topic I put. --[[User:Rockersk08|<font color="black">rock</font>]][[User talk:Rockersk08|<font color="blue">ersk</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Rockersk08|<font color="red">08</font>]] 01:57, 30 July 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== New Articles ==<br />
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I suggest the creation of (at least) 3 new articles: one for Clone Pokemon, one for the clone Pikachu, and one for the clone Meowth. The clone Pikachu and Meowth deserve their own pages because they have personalities and abilities distinct from their originals. A page on Clone Pokemon can refer to Pokemon created by Mewtwo and the his creators, as well as Fossil Pokemon. [[User:Legionaireb|Legionaireb]] 02:27, 30 July 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:Please do, and when you do, make a COMPLETE list of the clone Pokemon [[User:Jdrawer|Jdrawer]] 16:18, 22 June 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Wrong information about removed scenes ==<br />
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I am pretty much sure that the scenes about Mewtwo's childhood, Amber etc weren't removed from the original movie, they rather didn't exist back then yet! The first movie aired in July 1998 in Japan, the prequel in September 1999 as a "radio drama" in Japan, later on as a short anime. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mewtwo#In_anime_and_related_media And that's what I also remember.<br />
Maybe it's not important, maybe I'm just that interested in this because I highly hated the prequel.<br />
Since til now I was only here to edit minor mistakes, preferably about German Names etc, I couldn't change it myself if my complaint proves itself to be correct.<small>- ''unsigned comment from {{u|Aicona}} ([[User talk:Aicona|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Aicona|contribs]]) ''</small><br />
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:It was removed from the American version of Pokemon 2000[[User:Jdrawer|Jdrawer]] 16:19, 22 June 2011 (UTC)<br />
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two things about the coment just before mine: 1: I have the origin of Mewtwo short on my English copy, of [[m01|the first movie]], and 2, are you sure you mean the american version of [[m02|Pokemon 2000?]] you need to be carefull about that, just to let you know, nothing negative. [[User:Christian Woods| Christian Woods]] [[User talk:Christian Woods| Azu!]] 05:48, 14 November 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Sentret ==<br />
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I was watching the movie and there is a Pokémon that looks like it. And it's in the article. Is this speculation or fact?--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|<span style="color:#003366">Midnight</span>]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|<span style="color:#8C92AC">''Blue''</span>]]''' 01:26, 12 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Hmm... I'll go check. '''[[Team Rocket|<small><span style="color: #550000;">R.A.</span></small>]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Hunter</font></small>]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Blade</font></small>]]''' 16:43, 12 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
[http://i50.tinypic.com/2m6agwj.jpg]<br><br />
Eh, sorry it's so big. But no, it's not a Sentret. That's a very {{tt|badly drawn Eevee|even if it isn't, the tail isn't a Sentret's}} in the middle, and the one on the left is either a Mankey or a Meowth. The animation isn't all that great, being the first movie and all, but it's not a Sentret either way. I also went back to the beginning of the movie, and there isn't a Sentret in the Pokémon Center during the first storm scene either. '''[[Team Rocket|<small><span style="color: #550000;">R.A.</span></small>]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Hunter</font></small>]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Blade</font></small>]]''' 18:48, 12 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Meowth and clone talk ==<br />
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Why is the subject about Meowth and his cloen talking about the moon when istead they talk about learning the lesson about what's the same and what's different? [[User:Jedi Striker|Jedi Striker]] 16:49, 8 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Because he talks about how they share the same moon.... '''[[Team Rocket|<small><span style="color: #550000;">R.A.</span></small>]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Hunter</font></small>]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Blade</font></small>]]''' 20:35, 8 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Errors ==<br />
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If [http://www.ffufi.net/pokemon/M1_Mistakes.html this] website is correct, should we add these? - <span style="background:#96EAFF;border: 1px solid#0000FF">'''[[User:Vhayes1992|<b style="color:#FF0000">Vhayes</b>]][[User talk:Vhayes1992|<b style="color:#00027F">1992</b>]]</span> 18:19, 8 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
:We have them on the page already. There's an <span class="plainlinks">[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/M01#Errors errors]</span> section. '''[[Team Rocket|<small><span style="color: #550000;">R.A.</span></small>]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Hunter</font></small>]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Blade</font></small>]]''' 20:37, 8 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==Blu-Ray==<br />
I know this is probably not worth pursuing further, but the wikipedia page for Mewtwo Strikes Back says that the film will be released on Blu-ray disc on April 19, 2011. Can anybody cite this?--[[User:Skulblaka Shurtugal|Skulblaka Shurtugal]] 19:27, 23 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Possibly not an error? ==<br />
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When Nurse joy said she'd rather be in Mewtwo's storm, than watch the Pokémon fighting, didn't Mewtwo say earlier "They [cloned Pokémon] will remain safe on this island with me, while my storm destroys the planet." when he was capturing all the Pokémon? [[User:Whatinthew0rld|Whatinthew0rld]] 18:04, 15 June 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::She said this sentence towards the end of the movie. [[User:Ruixiang95|Ruixiang95]] 11:30, 21 June 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== New error ==<br />
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Added in the error about Fergus stating all his pokémon were water types when he has Nidoqueen. [[User:Moffooo|Moffooo]] 17:45, 26 June 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Danish sub, "Vingingerne" ==<br />
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The trivia in the article says "In the Danish version Brock says 'Jeg vidste ikke vikingerne stadig fantes.', and Ash replies 'Jo, men de turnere mest i Sverige.'". I have not seen the Danish dub, but if that is correct then that is most certainly a reference to the Swedish dansband [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikingarna_(band) Vikingarna]. I don't know if this is something that should be added to the article though.<br />
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--[[User:Phil832|Phil832]] 22:29, 2 September 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Togepi #152 ==<br />
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The article lists Togepi being listed as Pokémon #152 as an error.<br />
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I'm pretty sure back in those days, Pokémon and their numbers were meant to signify the order of their discovery as a '''live specimen.''' Which is why prehistoric Pokémon have higher numbers, & why Mewtwo is before Mew. It was also thrown around that the numbers was the order of their induction into being classified as a Pokémon. Plus both were a way around explaining why everyone in/on Pokémon games/anime/merchandise kept saying there were only 150 ('''known''') Pokémon.<br />
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I think at some point this numbering explanation has been forgotten/abandoned by most fans/official sources.<br />
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This movie also takes place before much of the structure to the Generation II and the Pokédex numbering in the games in general was laid down. So if anything, Togepi's number should be Trivia not a error. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] 17:31, 6 March 2012 (UTC)<br />
:It stays as an error because if I remember correctly DVD release came out after the Generation II games were introduced in America. ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|<span style="color:teal">Frozen</span>]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|<span style="color:green">Fennec</span>]]'' 17:54, 6 March 2012 (UTC)<br />
::Your theory about Pokédex numbers is incorrect... there'd be several exceptions if that were the case. First off, it is stated that Todd's photo of Aerodactyl was the first picture ever taken of it, implying that it had never been seen before then. However, Dratini was in an episode earlier in the series, and his number is higher than Aerodactyl's. Same thing with Snorlax. Also, the legendary birds... they were known to exist in the second episode. As for Mew... I'm pretty sure that she had been seen by at least someone in South America much earlier. Which brings up another point... who has to be the one seeing these Pokémon before adding them to the Pokédex? Could a South American native's sighting be enough or does it need to be a researcher? Also, Mewtwo was most likely never seen by anyone with that authority, since the only people who knew of him were the scientists who created him (who were all killed), Team Rocket (who wouldn't have reported his existance), or trainers like Gary who battled him (who wouldn't have the "authority" as a researcher of adding him), so he'd never have been added to the Pokédex (and in the anime, he wasn't shown to be). So yeah, that definitely wouldn't work if we're talking anime. If we're talking games, it still wouldn't work, since Mew gave birth to Mewtwo, meaning that the scientists must have had a living Mew before Mewtwo was around, and their sighting of Mew would have listed her in the Pokédex before Mewtwo. [[User:Dannyjenn|Dannyjenn]] 04:19, 20 March 2012 (UTC)<br />
<br />
==Should this be noted?==<br />
I read on dogasu.bulbagarden.net that in response to [[EP038]], there was a message before this movie saying that the movie had no flashing lights and it was safe to watch. Should it be noted here? [[User:JacobTheDoduo|JacobTheDoduo]] 23:17, 18 March 2012 (UTC)<br />
<br />
==Possible incorrect Trivia / Errors==<br />
- "''Despite numerous mentions and hints that Charizard, as well as its pre-evolution forms will die if the flame on their tail goes out; both the Charizard clone and Charmandertwo were submerged in liquid with no visible flame while in their incubation chambers.''"<br />
<br />
I don't know about the Charmandertwo (I never saw the Mewtwo's Origin short), but I re-watched Mewtwo Strikes Back and the Charizard clone is never seen without a flame. This could be because my DVD is fullscreen and that part may have been cut off the edge of the screen, so I could be wrong here.<br />
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- "''This is the second time Ash dies and then comes back to life, the first being in The Tower of Terror.''"<br />
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I agree with this, although it's inconsistent with Bulbapedia's page for The Tower of Terror (which says Ash was knocked unconscious, not killed).<br />
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- "''In the beginning of the English dub of the feature film, Raymond's Machamp is shown coming out of the Poké Ball twice.''"<br />
<br />
Was that just in the dub? Because if not, I don't think that's an error... it looked to me like an instant-replay (which is odd since that's not done ever, but it seems more like trivia than an error). But if it was only in the dub, then yeah, it's probably an error.<br />
<br />
- "''Mewtwo is mistakenly colored a light blue instead of a light purple on the VHS and DVD cases.''"<br />
<br />
I have the DVD and he's not blue. Part of him does look blue, but other parts of him are definitely purple. This is most likely just due to the printing, and not an error. Unless it was an error and they fixed it or something. [[User:Dannyjenn|Dannyjenn]] 21:31, 20 March 2012 (UTC)<br />
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== dub edit dispute ==<br />
<br />
In the dub edits section it says they made Mewtwo into a stereotypical cold-hearted villain who just wanted world domination. BULL CRAP! Did whoever wrote that even watch the dub? Mewtwo felt betrayed due to the words and actions of Dr, Fuji and Giovanni. As such, he developed a general (and possibly racist) distrust of all humams, and thus wanted to purge the world of their influence by killing them all, as well as the pokemon who shamed themselves by submitting to the humans' will. Where in there does it say "I'm evil and i wanna rule the world"? I know 4Kids isn't the most reputable company, but at least give them ''some'' credit. [[User:Morgil27|Morgil27]] 04:54, 16 April 2012 (UTC)<br />
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== First japanese trailer, completely different story? ==<br />
<br />
A friend of mine gave me this link, it seems to be the first trailer (japanese) of the movie, but there are some scenes that weren't used in the film itself, it's kinda strange o.o<br />
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b70GRNYnacI&feature=youtu.be --[[User:AfO|AfO]] 02:05, 8 May 2012 (UTC)<br />
:Yes, that's already stated on the page. <sup>[[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup>[[User:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">Jo the Marten</span>]]<sup>[[Flygon (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup> [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">ಠ_ಠ</span>]][[Cilan (anime)|<span style="color:#90C870;">♥</span>]] 02:07, 8 May 2012 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Continuity Citation ==<br />
<br />
Why exactly does it say this movie takes place between EP067 Pi-Kahuna and EP068 Make Room for Gloom, from what I've read theirs really no evidence it takes place here short of the original Japanese episode that would have been airing this week if EP038 Electric Soldier Porygon hadn't occurred. This really doesn't seem like a strong case especially because it seems to contradict the movie on 2 factors.<br />
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1)The Pirate Trainer knew who Ash was at the start of the Movie, though Ash hadn't accomplished anything noteworthy yet.<br />
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2)Pidgeotto is missing form this movie.<br />
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Though I'm sure its been suggested before, and I don't want to look like a Jerk ranting on Bulbapedia, but shouldn't this take place after EP081 because Ash just released his Pidgeot and now only has 4 Pokemon (Pikachu, Bulbasaur, Squirtle and Charizard) on hand, not to mention this was originally planned to be the movie finale to the series before it was extended. Really I just want solid evidence it takes place their and not just a release date. [[User:Bith|Bith]] 03:05, 10 May 2012 (UTC)<br />
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== Spoilers ending..? ==<br />
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I'm pretty sure this is the only movie page that uses the "Spoilers End Here" template. Why is that? Also, I believe it should not be used in the first place, since there are also spoilers in the Trivia section. Should it be removed?</div>Phoenixonhttps://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Staff_of_Pok%C3%A9mon_Black_2_and_White_2&diff=1880108Staff of Pokémon Black 2 and White 22013-04-11T20:28:33Z<p>Phoenixon: More random bullet points.</p>
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<div>__NOTOC__ __NOEDITSECTION__<br />
This list of staff members worked on the [[Generation V|fifth generation]] [[Pokémon games]], [[Pokémon Black and White Versions 2]]. The game was published by [[Nintendo]] and developed by [[Game Freak]] and [[Creatures, Inc.]] All names are given in Western order.<br />
<br />
===Director===<br />
* [[Takao Unno]]<br />
<br />
===Planning Director===<br />
* Masafumi Saito<br />
<br />
===Programming Director===<br />
* Sōsuke Tamada<br />
<br />
===Art Director===<br />
* Takao Unno<br />
<br />
===Scenario===<br />
* Toshinobu Matsumiya<br />
<br />
===Programming===<br />
* Akito Mori (Leader)<br />
* Miyuki Iwasawa<br />
* Tōru Nagihashi<br />
* Katsuhiko Ichiraku<br />
* Masayuki Onoue<br />
* Ryōta Tanaka<br />
<br />
===[[Pokémon Black and White Versions|Pokémon BW]] Programming===<br />
* Tetsuya Watanabe<br />
* Hisashi Sogabe<br />
* Katsumi Ōno<br />
* Masao Taya<br />
* Hiroyuki Nakamura<br />
* Nozomu Saitou<br />
* Tomoya Takahashi<br />
* Genya Hosaka<br />
* Nobuhiko Arīzumi<br />
* Toshihiro Obata<br />
* Kōji Kawada<br />
* Yoshinori Matsuda<br />
* Keita Kagaya<br />
<br />
===Pokémon character director===<br />
* [[Ken Sugimori]]<br />
<br />
===Pokémon Design===<br />
* Ken Sugimori<br />
* Takao Unno<br />
* [[Motofumi Fujiwara]]<br />
* [[Hironobu Yoshida]]<br />
* Kenkichi Toyama<br />
* Hiroki Fuchino<br />
* [[Yusuke Ohmura]]<br />
* Saya Tsuruta<br />
* [[Lee HyunJung]]<br />
* [[Mana Ibe]]<br />
* Reiko Tanoue<br />
* Maiko Fujiwara<br />
* Megumi Mizutani<br />
* Tomuhiko Ōkubo<br />
* [[James Turner]]<br />
* [[Atsuko Nishida]]<br />
* Keiko Moritsugu<br />
* Tomohiro Kitakaze<br />
<br />
===2D Graphic Design===<br />
* Hironobu Yoshida (Leader)<br />
* Kenkichi Toyama<br />
* Saya Tsuruta<br />
* Megumi Mizutani<br />
* Yusuke Ohmura<br />
<br />
===3D Graphic Design===<br />
* Tomohiko Ōkubo<br />
* Hiroki Fuchino<br />
* Mana Ibe<br />
* Mayo Ōtani<br />
* Yuki Kawamuto<br />
* Motofumi Fujiwara<br />
* Tsubasa Matsuzaki<br />
* Yukiko Shīyama<br />
* Yūichirō Takao<br />
* Atsushi Watanabe<br />
<br />
===Trainer Main Design===<br />
* Yusuke Ohmura<br />
<br />
===Trainer Design===<br />
* Mana Ibe<br />
* Megumi Mizutani<br />
<br />
===Battle Graphic Design===<br />
* Hironobu Yoshida<br />
<br />
===Battle Effect Design===<br />
* Motofumi Fujiwara<br />
<br />
===UI Graphic Main Design===<br />
* Kenkichi Toyama<br />
<br />
===Demo Movie Design===<br />
* Takao Unno<br />
<br />
===Pokémon BW Graphic Design===<br />
* Lee HyunJung<br />
* Reiko Tanōe<br />
* Maiko Fujiwara<br />
* James Turner<br />
* Keiko Moritsugu<br />
* Tomohiro Kitakaze<br />
<br />
===Pokémon Setting & [[Pokédex]] Text===<br />
* Toshinobu Matsumiya<br />
<br />
===Music===<br />
* [[Gō Ichinose]]<br />
* [[Hitomi Satō]]<br />
<br />
===Pokémon voices===<br />
* Gō Ichinose<br />
<br />
===Sound effects===<br />
* Hitomi Satō<br />
* Teruo Taniguchi<br />
<br />
===[[Humilau City]]/[[Unova Route 23|Route 23]] Composition & Arrangement===<br />
* Gō Ichinose<br />
<br />
===[[Unova Route 19|Route 19]]/[[Join Avenue]] Composition & Arrangement===<br />
* Hitomi Satō<br />
<br />
===Pokémon BW Music===<br />
* [[Junichi Masuda]]<br />
* Shōta Kageyama<br />
* Minako Odachi<br />
<br />
===Game Design===<br />
* Teruyuki Shimoyamada (Leader)<br />
* Suguru Nakatsui (Leader)<br />
* Toshinobu Matsumiya (Leader)<br />
* [[Kōji Nishino]]<br />
* Mai Mizuguchi<br />
* Katsunori Suginaka<br />
* Akira Nakamura<br />
* Hiroto Itō<br />
* Naoto Murakami<br />
<br />
===Text===<br />
* Toshinobu Matsumiya<br />
* Suguru Nakatsui<br />
* Hiroto Itou<br />
* <br />
* Hikaru Yoshikawa<br />
<br />
===Script Setting===<br />
* Mai Mizuguchi<br />
* Katsunori Suginaka<br />
* Sōichirō Fujimura<br />
<br />
===Map Design===<br />
* Suguru Nakatsui<br />
* Katsunori Suginaka<br />
* Akira Nakamura<br />
* Kōji Nishino<br />
* Yōhei Osaoka<br />
<br />
===Parameter Setting===<br />
* Kōji Nishino<br />
* Hiroto Itō<br />
<br />
===[[Pokéstar Studios]] Setting===<br />
* Suguru Nakatsui<br />
<br />
===[[Pokémon World Tournament]] Setting===<br />
* Katsunori Suginaka<br />
* Toshinobu Matsumiya<br />
<br />
===[[Entralink]] FES Setting===<br />
* Masafumi Saitō<br />
<br />
===Join Avenue Setting===<br />
* Teruyuki Shimoyamada<br />
<br />
===Pokémon BW Game Design===<br />
* Shigeki Morimoto<br />
* Kenji Matsushima<br />
* Tetsuji Ōta<br />
* Shigeki Ōmori<br />
* Nakamura Hiro<br />
* Kazumasa Iwao<br />
* Yukiko Hozumi<br />
* Takeshi Kawachimaru<br />
* Tadashi Takahashi<br />
<br />
===3DS Connection Setting===<br />
* Takao Unno<br />
* Masafumi Saitō<br />
<br />
===3DS Connection Programming===<br />
* Yasunori Isari<br />
<br />
===Pokémon BW Wi-Fi Server Development===<br />
* Takahiro Yamaguchi<br />
* Ryō Yamaguchi<br />
* Kazutomo Niwa<br />
* Takāki Takeuchi<br />
* Mikihiro Ishikawa<br />
<br />
===[[Pokémon Global Link]] Setting===<br />
* Makiko Takahashi<br />
* Keīchi Yoshikawa<br />
* Shin Uwai<br />
* Basement Factory Production<br />
<br />
===Debug Management===<br />
* Yūki Tanikawa<br />
* Motoki Nakajima<br />
* Akiko Ōhashi<br />
* Takeshi Tamura<br />
<br />
===Debug===<br />
* Mario Club<br />
<br />
===B&W Concept===<br />
* Junichi Masuda<br />
<br />
===Special Thanks===<br />
* Kenji Tominaga<br />
* Yuichirō Mori<br />
* Yoshio Tajiri<br />
* Teiko Sasaki<br />
* Emi Endō<br />
* Asami Satō<br />
* Nagāki Fukase<br />
* Sachiko Hamano<br />
* Haruka Sunaga<br />
* Keisuke Takada<br />
* Hirōki Tsuru<br />
* Kenjirō Itō<br />
* Mikiko Ōhashi<br />
* Tomotaka Komura<br />
* Atsushi Sugimoto<br />
* Susumu Fukunaga<br />
* Takato Utsunomiya<br />
* Oshito Miyahara<br />
* Taku Kawamoto<br />
* Gakuji Nomoto<br />
* Kanako Murata<br />
* Kochimi Takizawa<br />
* Mitsuyo Matsunaga<br />
* Shō Furutani<br />
* Takahiro Ōnishi<br />
* Yuichirō Tsumita<br />
* Osamu Fujita<br />
* Masayuki Soga<br />
* Yōko Nakayama<br />
* Kayo Nakata<br />
* Teruki Murakawa<br />
* Kaori Andō<br />
* Kōtarō Hiromatsu<br />
* Shirohi Akune<br />
* Daisuke Komai<br />
* Toshio Mukai<br />
* Chiaki Takahara<br />
<br />
===Artwork===<br />
* Kyomi Itani<br />
* Sachiko Nakamichi<br />
<br />
===Globalization===<br />
* Noriko Nakao<br />
* Hironori Ichibayashi<br />
* Shūhei Furukawa<br />
* Kei Ninomiya<br />
* Kenji Matsushima<br />
<br />
===Information Management===<br />
* Tōya Yoneda<br />
* Shiho Haraguchi<br />
* Yūta Nakai<br />
* Yūri Sakurai<br />
<br />
===Coordinators===<br />
* Shunsuke Kohori<br />
* Ayako Kajiwara<br />
* Akira Kinashi<br />
* Hideaki Araki<br />
* Yūki Okada<br />
<br />
===Producers===<br />
* Jun'ichi Masuda<br />
* Hitoshi Yamagami<br />
* Shūsaku Egami<br />
<br />
===Executive producers===<br />
* [[Satoshi Tajiri]]<br />
* [[Satoru Iwata]]<br />
* [[Tsunekazu Ishihara]]<br />
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{{Staff2|Black 2|White 2}}<br><br />
{{Project Games notice}}<br />
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[[Category:Game cast and crew|*]]<br />
[[Category:Lists]]</div>Phoenixonhttps://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Staff_of_Pok%C3%A9mon_Black_2_and_White_2&diff=1880107Staff of Pokémon Black 2 and White 22013-04-11T20:26:35Z<p>Phoenixon: Bullet point with nothing on it.</p>
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<div>__NOTOC__ __NOEDITSECTION__<br />
This list of staff members worked on the [[Generation V|fifth generation]] [[Pokémon games]], [[Pokémon Black and White Versions 2]]. The game was published by [[Nintendo]] and developed by [[Game Freak]] and [[Creatures, Inc.]] All names are given in Western order.<br />
<br />
===Director===<br />
* [[Takao Unno]]<br />
<br />
===Planning Director===<br />
* Masafumi Saito<br />
<br />
===Programming Director===<br />
* Sōsuke Tamada<br />
<br />
===Art Director===<br />
* Takao Unno<br />
<br />
===Scenario===<br />
* Toshinobu Matsumiya<br />
<br />
===Programming===<br />
* Akito Mori (Leader)<br />
* Miyuki Iwasawa<br />
* Tōru Nagihashi<br />
* Katsuhiko Ichiraku<br />
* Masayuki Onoue<br />
* Ryōta Tanaka<br />
<br />
===[[Pokémon Black and White Versions|Pokémon BW]] Programming===<br />
* Tetsuya Watanabe<br />
* Hisashi Sogabe<br />
* Katsumi Ōno<br />
* Masao Taya<br />
* Hiroyuki Nakamura<br />
* Nozomu Saitou<br />
* Tomoya Takahashi<br />
* Genya Hosaka<br />
* Nobuhiko Arīzumi<br />
* Toshihiro Obata<br />
* Kōji Kawada<br />
* Yoshinori Matsuda<br />
* Keita Kagaya<br />
<br />
===Pokémon character director===<br />
* [[Ken Sugimori]]<br />
<br />
===Pokémon Design===<br />
* Ken Sugimori<br />
* Takao Unno<br />
* [[Motofumi Fujiwara]]<br />
* [[Hironobu Yoshida]]<br />
* Kenkichi Toyama<br />
* Hiroki Fuchino<br />
* [[Yusuke Ohmura]]<br />
* Saya Tsuruta<br />
* [[Lee HyunJung]]<br />
* [[Mana Ibe]]<br />
* Reiko Tanoue<br />
* Maiko Fujiwara<br />
* Megumi Mizutani<br />
* Tomuhiko Ōkubo<br />
* [[James Turner]]<br />
*<br />
* [[Atsuko Nishida]]<br />
* Keiko Moritsugu<br />
* Tomohiro Kitakaze<br />
<br />
===2D Graphic Design===<br />
* Hironobu Yoshida (Leader)<br />
* Kenkichi Toyama<br />
* Saya Tsuruta<br />
* Megumi Mizutani<br />
* Yusuke Ohmura<br />
<br />
===3D Graphic Design===<br />
* Tomohiko Ōkubo<br />
* Hiroki Fuchino<br />
* Mana Ibe<br />
* Mayo Ōtani<br />
* Yuki Kawamuto<br />
* Motofumi Fujiwara<br />
* Tsubasa Matsuzaki<br />
* <br />
* Yukiko Shīyama<br />
* Yūichirō Takao<br />
* Atsushi Watanabe<br />
<br />
===Trainer Main Design===<br />
* Yusuke Ohmura<br />
<br />
===Trainer Design===<br />
* Mana Ibe<br />
* Megumi Mizutani<br />
<br />
===Battle Graphic Design===<br />
* Hironobu Yoshida<br />
<br />
===Battle Effect Design===<br />
* Motofumi Fujiwara<br />
<br />
===UI Graphic Main Design===<br />
* Kenkichi Toyama<br />
<br />
===Demo Movie Design===<br />
* Takao Unno<br />
<br />
===Pokémon BW Graphic Design===<br />
* Lee HyunJung<br />
* Reiko Tanōe<br />
* Maiko Fujiwara<br />
* James Turner<br />
* <br />
* Keiko Moritsugu<br />
* Tomohiro Kitakaze<br />
<br />
===Pokémon Setting & [[Pokédex]] Text===<br />
* Toshinobu Matsumiya<br />
<br />
===Music===<br />
* [[Gō Ichinose]]<br />
* [[Hitomi Satō]]<br />
<br />
===Pokémon voices===<br />
* Gō Ichinose<br />
<br />
===Sound effects===<br />
* Hitomi Satō<br />
* <br />
* Teruo Taniguchi<br />
<br />
===[[Humilau City]]/[[Unova Route 23|Route 23]] Composition & Arrangement===<br />
* Gō Ichinose<br />
<br />
===[[Unova Route 19|Route 19]]/[[Join Avenue]] Composition & Arrangement===<br />
* Hitomi Satō<br />
<br />
===Pokémon BW Music===<br />
* [[Junichi Masuda]]<br />
* Shōta Kageyama<br />
* Minako Odachi<br />
<br />
===Game Design===<br />
* Teruyuki Shimoyamada (Leader)<br />
* Suguru Nakatsui (Leader)<br />
* Toshinobu Matsumiya (Leader)<br />
* [[Kōji Nishino]]<br />
* Mai Mizuguchi<br />
* Katsunori Suginaka<br />
* Akira Nakamura<br />
* Hiroto Itō<br />
* <br />
* Naoto Murakami<br />
<br />
===Text===<br />
* Toshinobu Matsumiya<br />
* Suguru Nakatsui<br />
* Hiroto Itou<br />
* <br />
* Hikaru Yoshikawa<br />
<br />
===Script Setting===<br />
* Mai Mizuguchi<br />
* Katsunori Suginaka<br />
* <br />
* Sōichirō Fujimura<br />
<br />
===Map Design===<br />
* Suguru Nakatsui<br />
* Katsunori Suginaka<br />
* Akira Nakamura<br />
* Kōji Nishino<br />
* <br />
* Yōhei Osaoka<br />
<br />
===Parameter Setting===<br />
* Kōji Nishino<br />
* Hiroto Itō<br />
<br />
===[[Pokéstar Studios]] Setting===<br />
* Suguru Nakatsui<br />
<br />
===[[Pokémon World Tournament]] Setting===<br />
* Katsunori Suginaka<br />
* Toshinobu Matsumiya<br />
<br />
===[[Entralink]] FES Setting===<br />
* Masafumi Saitō<br />
<br />
===Join Avenue Setting===<br />
* Teruyuki Shimoyamada<br />
<br />
===Pokémon BW Game Design===<br />
* Shigeki Morimoto<br />
* Kenji Matsushima<br />
* Tetsuji Ōta<br />
* Shigeki Ōmori<br />
* Nakamura Hiro<br />
* Kazumasa Iwao<br />
* Yukiko Hozumi<br />
* <br />
* Takeshi Kawachimaru<br />
* Tadashi Takahashi<br />
<br />
===3DS Connection Setting===<br />
* Takao Unno<br />
* Masafumi Saitō<br />
<br />
===3DS Connection Programming===<br />
* Yasunori Isari<br />
<br />
===Pokémon BW Wi-Fi Server Development===<br />
* Takahiro Yamaguchi<br />
* Ryō Yamaguchi<br />
* Kazutomo Niwa<br />
* Takāki Takeuchi<br />
* Mikihiro Ishikawa<br />
<br />
===[[Pokémon Global Link]] Setting===<br />
* Makiko Takahashi<br />
* Keīchi Yoshikawa<br />
* Shin Uwai<br />
* Basement Factory Production<br />
<br />
===Debug Management===<br />
* Yūki Tanikawa<br />
* Motoki Nakajima<br />
* Akiko Ōhashi<br />
* Takeshi Tamura<br />
<br />
===Debug===<br />
* Mario Club<br />
<br />
===B&W Concept===<br />
* Junichi Masuda<br />
<br />
===Special Thanks===<br />
* Kenji Tominaga<br />
* Yuichirō Mori<br />
* Yoshio Tajiri<br />
* Teiko Sasaki<br />
* Emi Endō<br />
* Asami Satō<br />
* Nagāki Fukase<br />
* Sachiko Hamano<br />
* Haruka Sunaga<br />
* Keisuke Takada<br />
* Hirōki Tsuru<br />
* Kenjirō Itō<br />
* Mikiko Ōhashi<br />
* Tomotaka Komura<br />
* Atsushi Sugimoto<br />
* Susumu Fukunaga<br />
* Takato Utsunomiya<br />
* Oshito Miyahara<br />
* Taku Kawamoto<br />
* Gakuji Nomoto<br />
* Kanako Murata<br />
* Kochimi Takizawa<br />
* Mitsuyo Matsunaga<br />
* Shō Furutani<br />
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* Yuichirō Tsumita<br />
* Osamu Fujita<br />
* Masayuki Soga<br />
* Yōko Nakayama<br />
* Kayo Nakata<br />
* Teruki Murakawa<br />
* Kaori Andō<br />
* Kōtarō Hiromatsu<br />
* Shirohi Akune<br />
* Daisuke Komai<br />
* Toshio Mukai<br />
* Chiaki Takahara<br />
<br />
===Artwork===<br />
* Kyomi Itani<br />
* Sachiko Nakamichi<br />
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* Noriko Nakao<br />
* Hironori Ichibayashi<br />
* Shūhei Furukawa<br />
* Kei Ninomiya<br />
* Kenji Matsushima<br />
<br />
===Information Management===<br />
* Tōya Yoneda<br />
* Shiho Haraguchi<br />
* Yūta Nakai<br />
* <br />
* Yūri Sakurai<br />
<br />
===Coordinators===<br />
* Shunsuke Kohori<br />
* Ayako Kajiwara<br />
* Akira Kinashi<br />
* Hideaki Araki<br />
* Yūki Okada<br />
<br />
===Producers===<br />
* Jun'ichi Masuda<br />
* Hitoshi Yamagami<br />
* Shūsaku Egami<br />
<br />
===Executive producers===<br />
* [[Satoshi Tajiri]]<br />
* [[Satoru Iwata]]<br />
* [[Tsunekazu Ishihara]]<br />
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[[Category:Lists]]</div>Phoenixonhttps://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=List_of_Pok%C3%A9mon_by_name&diff=1628610List of Pokémon by name2012-03-18T07:49:02Z<p>Phoenixon: /* Trivia */</p>
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<div>This is an alphabetical list of Pokémon by their English language names. No Japanese romaji are included in this list, therefore, new Pokémon without English names will not be found here. This is also the list order that is seen by the {{player}} in [[Pokémon Colosseum]] and [[Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness|Pokémon XD]] in the [[Strategy Memo]] (minus Pokémon introduced after [[Generation III]]).<br />
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<br />
==List of Pokémon by name==<br />
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===A===<br />
{| {{Bluetable|background: white; margin: auto;}}<br />
|- style="background: #ccf;"<br />
! #<br />
! Icon<br />
! Name<br />
! colspan="2" | Type<br />
|-<br />
|460<br />
|{{MSP|460|Abomasnow}}<br />
|{{p|Abomasnow}}<br />
{{typetable|Grass}}<br />
{{typetable|Ice}}<br />
|-<br />
|063<br />
|{{MSP|063|Abra}}<br />
|{{p|Abra}}<br />
{{typetable2|Psychic}}<br />
|-<br />
|359<br />
|{{MSP|359|Absol}}<br />
|{{p|Absol}}<br />
{{typetable2|Dark}}<br />
|-<br />
|617<br />
|{{MSP|617|Accelgor}}<br />
|{{p|Accelgor}}<br />
{{typetable2|Bug}}<br />
|-<br />
|142<br />
|{{MSP|142|Aerodactyl}}<br />
|{{p|Aerodactyl}}<br />
{{typetable|Rock}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|306<br />
|{{MSP|306|Aggron}}<br />
|{{p|Aggron}}<br />
{{typetable|Steel}}<br />
{{typetable|Rock}}<br />
|-<br />
|190<br />
|{{MSP|190|Aipom}}<br />
|{{p|Aipom}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|065<br />
|{{MSP|065|Alakazam}}<br />
|{{p|Alakazam}}<br />
{{typetable2|Psychic}}<br />
|-<br />
|594<br />
|{{MSP|594|Alomomola}}<br />
|{{p|Alomomola}}<br />
{{typetable2|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|334<br />
|{{MSP|334|Altaria}}<br />
|{{p|Altaria}}<br />
{{typetable|Dragon}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|424<br />
||{{MSP|424|Ambipom}}<br />
|{{p|Ambipom}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|591<br />
|{{MSP|591|Amoonguss}}<br />
|{{p|Amoonguss}}<br />
{{typetable|Grass}}<br />
{{typetable|Poison}}<br />
|-<br />
|181<br />
|{{MSP|181|Ampharos}}<br />
|{{p|Ampharos}}<br />
{{typetable2|Electric}}<br />
|-<br />
|347<br />
|{{MSP|347|Anorith}}<br />
|{{p|Anorith}}<br />
{{typetable|Rock}}<br />
{{typetable|Bug}}<br />
|-<br />
|024<br />
|{{MSP|024|Arbok}}<br />
|{{p|Arbok}}<br />
{{typetable2|Poison}}<br />
|-<br />
|059<br />
|{{MSP|059|Arcanine}}<br />
|{{p|Arcanine}}<br />
{{typetable2|Fire}}<br />
|-<br />
|493<br />
|{{MSP|493|Arceus}}<br />
|{{p|Arceus}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|566<br />
|{{MSP|566|Archen}}<br />
|{{p|Archen}}<br />
{{typetable|Rock}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|567<br />
|{{MSP|567|Archeops}}<br />
|{{p|Archeops}}<br />
{{typetable|Rock}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|168<br />
|{{MSP|168|Ariados}}<br />
|{{p|Ariados}}<br />
{{typetable|Bug}}<br />
{{typetable|Poison}}<br />
|-<br />
|348<br />
|{{MSP|348|Armaldo}}<br />
|{{p|Armaldo}}<br />
{{typetable|Rock}}<br />
{{typetable|Bug}}<br />
|-<br />
|304<br />
|{{MSP|304|Aron}}<br />
|{{p|Aron}}<br />
{{typetable|Steel}}<br />
{{typetable|Rock}}<br />
|-<br />
|144<br />
|{{MSP|144|Articuno}}<br />
|{{p|Articuno}}<br />
{{typetable|Ice}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|531<br />
|{{MSP|531|Audino}}<br />
|{{p|Audino}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|610<br />
|{{MSP|610|Axew}}<br />
|{{p|Axew}}<br />
{{typetable2|Dragon}}<br />
|-<br />
|482<br />
|{{MSP|482|Azelf}}<br />
|{{p|Azelf}}<br />
{{typetable2|Psychic}}<br />
|-<br />
|184<br />
|{{MSP|184|Azumarill}}<br />
|{{p|Azumarill}}<br />
{{typetable2|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|298<br />
|{{MSP|298|Azurill}}<br />
|{{p|Azurill}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
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===B===<br />
<br />
{| {{Bluetable|background: white; margin: auto;}}<br />
|- style="background: #ccf;"<br />
! #<br />
! Icon<br />
! Name<br />
! colspan="2" | Type<br />
|-<br />
|371<br />
|{{MSP|371|Bagon}}<br />
|{{p|Bagon}}<br />
{{typetable2|Dragon}}<br />
|-<br />
|343<br />
|{{MSP|343|Baltoy}}<br />
|{{p|Baltoy}}<br />
{{typetable|Ground}}<br />
{{typetable|Psychic}}<br />
|-<br />
|354<br />
|{{MSP|354|Banette}}<br />
|{{p|Banette}}<br />
{{typetable2|Ghost}}<br />
|-<br />
|339<br />
|{{MSP|339|Barboach}}<br />
|{{p|Barboach}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
{{typetable|Ground}}<br />
|-<br />
|550<br />
|{{MSP|550|Basculin}}<br />
|{{p|Basculin}}<br />
{{typetable2|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|411<br />
|{{MSP|411|Bastiodon}}<br />
|{{p|Bastiodon}}<br />
{{typetable|Rock}}<br />
{{typetable|Steel}}<br />
|-<br />
|153<br />
|{{MSP|153|Bayleef}}<br />
|{{p|Bayleef}}<br />
{{typetable2|Grass}}<br />
|-<br />
|614<br />
|{{MSP|614|Beartic}}<br />
|{{p|Beartic}}<br />
{{typetable2|Ice}}<br />
|-<br />
|267<br />
|{{MSP|267|Beautifly}}<br />
|{{p|Beautifly}}<br />
{{typetable|Bug}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|015<br />
|{{MSP|015|Beedrill}}<br />
|{{p|Beedrill}}<br />
{{typetable|Bug}}<br />
{{typetable|Poison}}<br />
|-<br />
|606<br />
|{{MSP|606|Beheeyem}}<br />
|{{p|Beheeyem}}<br />
{{typetable2|Psychic}}<br />
|-<br />
|374<br />
||{{MSP|374|Beldum}}<br />
|{{p|Beldum}}<br />
{{typetable|Steel}}<br />
{{typetable|Psychic}}<br />
|-<br />
|182<br />
|{{MSP|182|Bellossom}}<br />
|{{p|Bellossom}}<br />
{{typetable2|Grass}}<br />
|-<br />
|069<br />
|{{MSP|069|Bellsprout}}<br />
|{{p|Bellsprout}}<br />
{{typetable|Grass}}<br />
{{typetable|Poison}}<br />
|-<br />
|400<br />
|{{MSP|400|Bibarel}}<br />
|{{p|Bibarel}}<br />
{{typetable|Normal}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|399<br />
|{{MSP|399|Bidoof}}<br />
|{{p|Bidoof}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|625<br />
|{{MSP|625|Bisharp}}<br />
|{{p|Bisharp}}<br />
{{typetable|Dark}}<br />
{{typetable|Steel}}<br />
|-<br />
|009<br />
|{{MSP|009|Blastoise}}<br />
|{{p|Blastoise}}<br />
{{typetable2|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|257<br />
|{{MSP|257|Blaziken}}<br />
|{{p|Blaziken}}<br />
{{typetable|Fire}}<br />
{{typetable|Fighting}}<br />
|-<br />
|242<br />
|{{MSP|242|Blissey}}<br />
|{{p|Blissey}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|522<br />
|{{MSP|522|Blitzle}}<br />
|{{p|Blitzle}}<br />
{{typetable2|Electric}}<br />
|-<br />
|525<br />
|{{MSP|525|Boldore}}<br />
|{{p|Boldore}}<br />
{{typetable2|Rock}}<br />
|-<br />
|438<br />
|{{MSP|438|Bonsly}}<br />
|{{p|Bonsly}}<br />
{{typetable2|Rock}}<br />
|-<br />
|626<br />
|{{MSP|626|Bouffalant}}<br />
|{{p|Bouffalant}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|628<br />
|{{MSP|628|Braviary}}<br />
|{{p|Braviary}}<br />
{{typetable|Normal}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|286<br />
|{{MSP|286|Breloom}}<br />
|{{p|Breloom}}<br />
{{typetable|Grass}}<br />
{{typetable|Fighting}}<br />
|-<br />
|437<br />
|{{MSP|437|Bronzong}}<br />
|{{p|Bronzong}}<br />
{{typetable|Steel}}<br />
{{typetable|Psychic}}<br />
|-<br />
|436<br />
|{{MSP|436|Bronzor}}<br />
|{{p|Bronzor}}<br />
{{typetable|Steel}}<br />
{{typetable|Psychic}}<br />
|-<br />
|406<br />
|{{MSP|406|Budew}}<br />
|{{p|Budew}}<br />
{{typetable|Grass}}<br />
{{typetable|Poison}}<br />
|-<br />
|418<br />
|{{MSP|418|Buizel}}<br />
|{{p|Buizel}}<br />
{{typetable2|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|001<br />
|{{MSP|001|Bulbasaur}}<br />
|{{p|Bulbasaur}}<br />
{{typetable|Grass}}<br />
{{typetable|Poison}}<br />
|-<br />
|427<br />
|{{MSP|427|Buneary}}<br />
|{{p|Buneary}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|412<br />
|{{MSP|412|Burmy}}<br />
|{{p|Burmy}}<br />
{{typetable2|Bug}}<br />
|-<br />
|012<br />
|{{MSP|012|Butterfree}}<br />
|{{p|Butterfree}}<br />
{{typetable|Bug}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
<br />
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===C===<br />
{| {{Bluetable|background: white; margin: auto;}}<br />
|- style="background: #ccf;"<br />
! #<br />
! Icon<br />
! Name<br />
! colspan="2" | Type<br />
|-<br />
|331<br />
|{{MSP|331|Cacnea}}<br />
|{{p|Cacnea}}<br />
{{typetable2|Grass}}<br />
|-<br />
|332<br />
|{{MSP|332|Cacturne}}<br />
|{{p|Cacturne}}<br />
{{typetable|Grass}}<br />
{{typetable|Dark}}<br />
|-<br />
|323<br />
|{{MSP|323|Camerupt}}<br />
|{{p|Camerupt}}<br />
{{typetable|Fire}}<br />
{{typetable|Ground}}<br />
|-<br />
|455<br />
|{{MSP|455|Carnivine}}<br />
|{{p|Carnivine}}<br />
{{typetable2|Grass}}<br />
|-<br />
|565<br />
|{{MSP|565|Carracosta}}<br />
|{{p|Carracosta}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
{{typetable|Rock}}<br />
|-<br />
|318<br />
|{{MSP|318|Carvanha}}<br />
|{{p|Carvanha}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
{{typetable|Dark}}<br />
|-<br />
|268<br />
|{{MSP|268|Cascoon}}<br />
|{{p|Cascoon}}<br />
{{typetable2|Bug}}<br />
|-<br />
|351<br />
|{{MSP|351|Castform}}<br />
|{{p|Castform}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|010<br />
|{{MSP|010|Caterpie}}<br />
|{{p|Caterpie}}<br />
{{typetable2|Bug}}<br />
|-<br />
|251<br />
|{{MSP|251|Celebi}}<br />
|{{p|Celebi}}<br />
{{typetable|Psychic}}<br />
{{typetable|Grass}}<br />
|-<br />
|609<br />
|{{MSP|609|Chandelure}}<br />
|{{p|Chandelure}}<br />
{{typetable|Ghost}}<br />
{{typetable|Fire}}<br />
|-<br />
|113<br />
|{{MSP|113|Chansey}}<br />
|{{p|Chansey}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|006<br />
|{{MSP|006|Charizard}}<br />
|{{p|Charizard}}<br />
{{typetable|Fire}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|004<br />
|{{MSP|004|Charmander}}<br />
|{{p|Charmander}}<br />
{{typetable2|Fire}}<br />
|-<br />
|005<br />
|{{MSP|005|Charmeleon}}<br />
|{{p|Charmeleon}}<br />
{{typetable2|Fire}}<br />
|-<br />
|441<br />
|{{MSP|441|Chatot}}<br />
|{{p|Chatot}}<br />
{{typetable|Normal}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|421<br />
|{{MSP|421|Cherrim}}<br />
|{{p|Cherrim}}<br />
{{typetable2|Grass}}<br />
|-<br />
|420<br />
|{{MSP|420|Cherubi}}<br />
|{{p|Cherubi}}<br />
{{typetable2|Grass}}<br />
|-<br />
|152<br />
|{{MSP|152|Chikorita}}<br />
|{{p|Chikorita}}<br />
{{typetable2|Grass}}<br />
|-<br />
|390<br />
|{{MSP|390|Chimchar}}<br />
|{{p|Chimchar}}<br />
{{typetable2|Fire}}<br />
|-<br />
|358<br />
|{{MSP|358|Chimecho}}<br />
|{{p|Chimecho}}<br />
{{typetable2|Psychic}}<br />
|-<br />
|170<br />
|{{MSP|170|Chinchou}}<br />
|{{p|Chinchou}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
{{typetable|Electric}}<br />
|-<br />
|433<br />
|{{MSP|433|Chingling}}<br />
|{{p|Chingling}}<br />
{{typetable2|Psychic}}<br />
|-<br />
|573<br />
|{{MSP|573|Cinccino}}<br />
|{{p|Cinccino}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|366<br />
|{{MSP|366|Clamperl}}<br />
|{{p|Clamperl}}<br />
{{typetable2|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|344<br />
|{{MSP|344|Claydol}}<br />
|{{p|Claydol}}<br />
{{typetable|Ground}}<br />
{{typetable|Psychic}}<br />
|-<br />
|036<br />
|{{MSP|036|Clefable}}<br />
|{{p|Clefable}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|035<br />
|{{MSP|035|Clefairy}}<br />
|{{p|Clefairy}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|173<br />
|{{MSP|173|Cleffa}}<br />
|{{p|Cleffa}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|091<br />
|{{MSP|091|Cloyster}}<br />
|{{p|Cloyster}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
{{typetable|Ice}}<br />
|-<br />
|638<br />
|{{MSP|638|Cobalion}}<br />
|{{p|Cobalion}}<br />
{{typetable|Steel}}<br />
{{typetable|Fighting}}<br />
|-<br />
|563<br />
|{{MSP|563|Cofagrigus}}<br />
|{{p|Cofagrigus}}<br />
{{typetable2|Ghost}}<br />
|-<br />
|415<br />
|{{MSP|415|Combee}}<br />
|{{p|Combee}}<br />
{{typetable|Bug}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|256<br />
|{{MSP|256|Combusken}}<br />
|{{p|Combusken}}<br />
{{typetable|Fire}}<br />
{{typetable|Fighting}}<br />
|-<br />
|534<br />
|{{MSP|534|Conkeldurr}}<br />
|{{p|Conkeldurr}}<br />
{{typetable2|Fighting}}<br />
|-<br />
|341<br />
|{{MSP|341|Corphish}}<br />
|{{p|Corphish}}<br />
{{typetable2|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|222<br />
|{{MSP|222|Corsola}}<br />
|{{p|Corsola}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
{{typetable|Rock}}<br />
|-<br />
|546<br />
|{{MSP|546|Cottonee}}<br />
|{{p|Cottonee}}<br />
{{typetable2|Grass}}<br />
|-<br />
|346<br />
|{{MSP|346|Cradily}}<br />
|{{p|Cradily}}<br />
{{typetable|Rock}}<br />
{{typetable|Grass}}<br />
|-<br />
|408<br />
|{{MSP|408|Cranidos}}<br />
|{{p|Cranidos}}<br />
{{typetable2|Rock}}<br />
|-<br />
|342<br />
|{{MSP|342|Crawdaunt}}<br />
|{{p|Crawdaunt}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
{{typetable|Dark}}<br />
|-<br />
|488<br />
|{{MSP|488|Cresselia}}<br />
|{{p|Cresselia}}<br />
{{typetable2|Psychic}}<br />
|-<br />
|453<br />
|{{MSP|453|Croagunk}}<br />
|{{p|Croagunk}}<br />
{{typetable|Poison}}<br />
{{typetable|Fighting}}<br />
|-<br />
|169<br />
|{{MSP|169|Crobat}}<br />
|{{p|Crobat}}<br />
{{typetable|Poison}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|159<br />
|{{MSP|159|Croconaw}}<br />
|{{p|Croconaw}}<br />
{{typetable2|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|558<br />
|{{MSP|558|Crustle}}<br />
|{{p|Crustle}}<br />
{{typetable|Bug}}<br />
{{typetable|Rock}}<br />
|-<br />
|615<br />
|{{MSP|615|Cryogonal}}<br />
|{{p|Cryogonal}}<br />
{{typetable2|Ice}}<br />
|-<br />
|613<br />
|{{MSP|613|Cubchoo}}<br />
|{{p|Cubchoo}}<br />
{{typetable2|Ice}}<br />
|-<br />
|104<br />
|{{MSP|104|Cubone}}<br />
|{{p|Cubone}}<br />
{{typetable2|Ground}}<br />
|-<br />
|155<br />
|{{MSP|155|Cyndaquil}}<br />
|{{p|Cyndaquil}}<br />
{{typetable2|Fire}}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
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===D===<br />
{| {{Bluetable|background: white; margin: auto;}}<br />
|- style="background: #ccf;"<br />
! #<br />
! Icon<br />
! Name<br />
! colspan="2" | Type<br />
|-<br />
|491<br />
|{{MSP|491|Darkrai}}<br />
|{{p|Darkrai}}<br />
{{typetable2|Dark}}<br />
|-<br />
|555<br />
|{{MSP|555|Darmanitan}}<br />
|{{p|Darmanitan}}<br />
{{typetable2|Fire}}<br />
|-<br />
|554<br />
|{{MSP|554|Darumaka}}<br />
|{{p|Darumaka}}<br />
{{typetable2|Fire}}<br />
|-<br />
|585<br />
|{{MSP|585|Deerling}}<br />
|{{p|Deerling}}<br />
{{typetable|Normal}}<br />
{{typetable|Grass}}<br />
|-<br />
|633<br />
|{{MSP|633|Deino}}<br />
|{{p|Deino}}<br />
{{typetable|Dark}}<br />
{{typetable|Dragon}}<br />
|-<br />
|301<br />
|{{MSP|301|Delcatty}}<br />
|{{p|Delcatty}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|225<br />
|{{MSP|225|Delibird}}<br />
|{{p|Delibird}}<br />
{{typetable|Ice}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|386<br />
|{{MSP|386|Deoxys}}<br />
|{{p|Deoxys}}<br />
{{typetable2|Psychic}}<br />
|-<br />
|087<br />
|{{MSP|087|Dewgong}}<br />
|{{p|Dewgong}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
{{typetable|Ice}}<br />
|-<br />
|502<br />
|{{MSP|502|Dewott}}<br />
|{{p|Dewott}}<br />
{{typetable2|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|483<br />
|{{MSP|483|Dialga}}<br />
|{{p|Dialga}}<br />
{{typetable|Steel}}<br />
{{typetable|Dragon}}<br />
|-<br />
|050<br />
|{{MSP|050|Diglett}}<br />
|{{p|Diglett}}<br />
{{typetable2|Ground}}<br />
|-<br />
|132<br />
|{{MSP|132|Ditto}}<br />
|{{p|Ditto}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|085<br />
|{{MSP|085|Dodrio}}<br />
|{{p|Dodrio}}<br />
{{typetable|Normal}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|084<br />
|{{MSP|084|Doduo}}<br />
|{{p|Doduo}}<br />
{{typetable|Normal}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|232<br />
|{{MSP|232|Donphan}}<br />
|{{p|Donphan}}<br />
{{typetable2|Ground}}<br />
|-<br />
|148<br />
|{{MSP|148|Dragonair}}<br />
|{{p|Dragonair}}<br />
{{typetable2|Dragon}}<br />
|-<br />
|149<br />
|{{MSP|149|Dragonite}}<br />
|{{p|Dragonite}}<br />
{{typetable|Dragon}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|452<br />
|{{MSP|452|Drapion}}<br />
|{{p|Drapion}}<br />
{{typetable|Poison}}<br />
{{typetable|Dark}}<br />
|-<br />
|147<br />
|{{MSP|147|Dratini}}<br />
|{{p|Dratini}}<br />
{{typetable2|Dragon}}<br />
|-<br />
|426<br />
|{{MSP|426|Drifblim}}<br />
|{{p|Drifblim}}<br />
{{typetable|Ghost}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|425<br />
|{{MSP|425|Drifloon}}<br />
|{{p|Drifloon}}<br />
{{typetable|Ghost}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|529<br />
|{{MSP|529|Drilbur}}<br />
|{{p|Drilbur}}<br />
{{typetable2|Ground}}<br />
|-<br />
|096<br />
|{{MSP|096|Drowzee}}<br />
|{{p|Drowzee}}<br />
{{typetable2|Psychic}}<br />
|-<br />
|621<br />
|{{MSP|621|Druddigon}}<br />
|{{p|Druddigon}}<br />
{{typetable2|Dragon}}<br />
|-<br />
|580<br />
|{{MSP|580|Ducklett}}<br />
|{{p|Ducklett}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|051<br />
|{{MSP|051|Dugtrio}}<br />
|{{p|Dugtrio}}<br />
{{typetable2|Ground}}<br />
|-<br />
|206<br />
|{{MSP|206|Dunsparce}}<br />
|{{p|Dunsparce}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|578<br />
|{{MSP|578|Duosion}}<br />
|{{p|Duosion}}<br />
{{typetable2|Psychic}}<br />
|-<br />
|632<br />
|{{MSP|632|Durant}}<br />
|{{p|Durant}}<br />
{{typetable|Bug}}<br />
{{typetable|Steel}}<br />
|-<br />
|356<br />
|{{MSP|356|Dusclops}}<br />
|{{p|Dusclops}}<br />
{{typetable2|Ghost}}<br />
|-<br />
|477<br />
|{{MSP|477|Dusknoir}}<br />
|{{p|Dusknoir}}<br />
{{typetable2|Ghost}}<br />
|-<br />
|355<br />
|{{MSP|355|Duskull}}<br />
|{{p|Duskull}}<br />
{{typetable2|Ghost}}<br />
|-<br />
|269<br />
|{{MSP|269|Dustox}}<br />
|{{p|Dustox}}<br />
{{typetable|Bug}}<br />
{{typetable|Poison}}<br />
|-<br />
|557<br />
|{{MSP|557|Dwebble}}<br />
|{{p|Dwebble}}<br />
{{typetable|Bug}}<br />
{{typetable|Rock}}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
{{CompactTOC}}<br />
===E===<br />
{| {{Bluetable|background: white; margin: auto;}}<br />
|- style="background: #ccf;"<br />
! #<br />
! Icon<br />
! Name<br />
! colspan="2" | Type<br />
|-<br />
|603<br />
|{{MSP|603|Eelektrik}}<br />
|{{p|Eelektrik}}<br />
{{typetable2|Electric}}<br />
|-<br />
|604<br />
|{{MSP|604|Eelektross}}<br />
|{{p|Eelektross}}<br />
{{typetable2|Electric}}<br />
|-<br />
|133<br />
|{{MSP|133|Eevee}}<br />
|{{p|Eevee}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|023<br />
|{{MSP|023|Ekans}}<br />
|{{p|Ekans}}<br />
{{typetable2|Poison}}<br />
|-<br />
|125<br />
|{{MSP|125|Electabuzz}}<br />
|{{p|Electabuzz}}<br />
{{typetable2|Electric}}<br />
|-<br />
|466<br />
|{{MSP|466|Electivire}}<br />
|{{p|Electivire}}<br />
{{typetable2|Electric}}<br />
|-<br />
|309<br />
|{{MSP|309|Electrike}}<br />
|{{p|Electrike}}<br />
{{typetable2|Electric}}<br />
|-<br />
|101<br />
|{{MSP|101|Electrode}}<br />
|{{p|Electrode}}<br />
{{typetable2|Electric}}<br />
|-<br />
|239<br />
|{{MSP|239|Elekid}}<br />
|{{p|Elekid}}<br />
{{typetable2|Electric}}<br />
|-<br />
|605<br />
|{{MSP|605|Elgyem}}<br />
|{{p|Elgyem}}<br />
{{typetable2|Psychic}}<br />
|-<br />
|500<br />
|{{MSP|500|Emboar}}<br />
|{{p|Emboar}}<br />
{{typetable|Fire}}<br />
{{typetable|Fighting}}<br />
|-<br />
|587<br />
|{{MSP|587|Emolga}}<br />
|{{p|Emolga}}<br />
{{typetable|Electric}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|395<br />
|{{MSP|395|Empoleon}}<br />
|{{p|Empoleon}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
{{typetable|Steel}}<br />
|-<br />
|244<br />
||{{MSP|244|Entei}}<br />
|{{p|Entei}}<br />
{{typetable2|Fire}}<br />
|-<br />
|589<br />
|{{MSP|589|Escavalier}}<br />
|{{p|Escavalier}}<br />
{{typetable|Bug}}<br />
{{typetable|Steel}}<br />
|-<br />
|196<br />
|{{MSP|196|Espeon}}<br />
|{{p|Espeon}}<br />
{{typetable2|Psychic}}<br />
|-<br />
|530<br />
|{{MSP|530|Excadrill}}<br />
|{{p|Excadrill}}<br />
{{typetable|Ground}}<br />
{{typetable|Steel}}<br />
|-<br />
|102<br />
|{{MSP|102|Exeggcute}}<br />
|{{p|Exeggcute}}<br />
{{typetable|Grass}}<br />
{{typetable|Psychic}}<br />
|-<br />
|103<br />
|{{MSP|103|Exeggutor}}<br />
|{{p|Exeggutor}}<br />
{{typetable|Grass}}<br />
{{typetable|Psychic}}<br />
|-<br />
|295<br />
|{{MSP|295|Exploud}}<br />
|{{p|Exploud}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
<br />
{{CompactTOC}}<br />
===F===<br />
{| {{Bluetable|background: white; margin: auto;}}<br />
|- style="background: #ccf;"<br />
! #<br />
! Icon<br />
! Name<br />
! colspan="2" | Type<br />
|-<br />
|083<br />
|{{MSP|083|Farfetch'd}}<br />
|{{p|Farfetch'd}}<br />
{{typetable|Normal}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|022<br />
|{{MSP|022|Fearow}}<br />
|{{p|Fearow}}<br />
{{typetable|Normal}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|349<br />
|{{MSP|349|Feebas}}<br />
|{{p|Feebas}}<br />
{{typetable2|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|160<br />
|{{MSP|160|Feraligatr}}<br />
|{{p|Feraligatr}}<br />
{{typetable2|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|597<br />
|{{MSP|597|Ferroseed}}<br />
|{{p|Ferroseed}}<br />
{{typetable|Grass}}<br />
{{typetable|Steel}}<br />
|-<br />
|598<br />
|{{MSP|598|Ferrothorn}}<br />
|{{p|Ferrothorn}}<br />
{{typetable|Grass}}<br />
{{typetable|Steel}}<br />
|-<br />
|456<br />
|{{MSP|456|Finneon}}<br />
|{{p|Finneon}}<br />
{{typetable2|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|180<br />
|{{MSP|180|Flaaffy}}<br />
|{{p|Flaaffy}}<br />
{{typetable2|Electric}}<br />
|-<br />
|136<br />
|{{MSP|136|Flareon}}<br />
|{{p|Flareon}}<br />
{{typetable2|Fire}}<br />
|-<br />
|419<br />
|{{MSP|419|Floatzel}}<br />
|{{p|Floatzel}}<br />
{{typetable2|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|330<br />
|{{MSP|330|Flygon}}<br />
|{{p|Flygon}}<br />
{{typetable|Ground}}<br />
{{typetable|Dragon}}<br />
|-<br />
|590<br />
|{{MSP|590|Foongus}}<br />
|{{p|Foongus}}<br />
{{typetable|Grass}}<br />
{{typetable|Poison}}<br />
|-<br />
|205<br />
|{{MSP|205|Forretress}}<br />
|{{p|Forretress}}<br />
{{typetable|Bug}}<br />
{{typetable|Steel}}<br />
|-<br />
|611<br />
|{{MSP|611|Fraxure}}<br />
|{{p|Fraxure}}<br />
{{typetable2|Dragon}}<br />
|-<br />
|592<br />
|{{MSP|592|Frillish}}<br />
|{{p|Frillish}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
{{typetable|Ghost}}<br />
|-<br />
|478<br />
|{{MSP|478|Froslass}}<br />
|{{p|Froslass}}<br />
{{typetable|Ice}}<br />
{{typetable|Ghost}}<br />
|-<br />
|162<br />
|{{MSP|162|Furret}}<br />
|{{p|Furret}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
{{CompactTOC}}<br />
<br />
===G===<br />
{| {{Bluetable|background: white; margin: auto;}}<br />
|- style="background: #ccf;"<br />
! #<br />
! Icon<br />
! Name<br />
! colspan="2" | Type<br />
|-<br />
|444<br />
|{{MSP|444|Gabite}}<br />
|{{p|Gabite}}<br />
{{typetable|Dragon}}<br />
{{typetable|Ground}}<br />
|-<br />
|475<br />
|{{MSP|475|Gallade}}<br />
|{{p|Gallade}}<br />
{{typetable|Psychic}}<br />
{{typetable|Fighting}}<br />
|-<br />
|596<br />
|{{MSP|596|Galvantula}}<br />
|{{p|Galvantula}}<br />
{{typetable|Bug}}<br />
{{typetable|Electric}}<br />
|-<br />
|569<br />
|{{MSP|569|Garbodor}}<br />
|{{p|Garbodor}}<br />
{{typetable2|Poison}}<br />
|-<br />
|445<br />
|{{MSP|445|Garchomp}}<br />
|{{p|Garchomp}}<br />
{{typetable|Dragon}}<br />
{{typetable|Ground}}<br />
|-<br />
|282<br />
|{{MSP|282|Gardevoir}}<br />
|{{p|Gardevoir}}<br />
{{typetable2|Psychic}}<br />
|-<br />
|092<br />
|{{MSP|092|Gastly}}<br />
|{{p|Gastly}}<br />
{{typetable|Ghost}}<br />
{{typetable|Poison}}<br />
|-<br />
|423<br />
|{{MSP|423|Gastrodon}}<br />
|{{p|Gastrodon}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
{{typetable|Ground}}<br />
|-<br />
|649<br />
|{{MSP|649|Genesect}}<br />
|{{p|Genesect}}<br />
{{typetable|Bug}}<br />
{{typetable|Steel}}<br />
|-<br />
|094<br />
|{{MSP|094|Gengar}}<br />
|{{p|Gengar}}<br />
{{typetable|Ghost}}<br />
{{typetable|Poison}}<br />
|-<br />
|074<br />
|{{MSP|074|Geodude}}<br />
|{{p|Geodude}}<br />
{{typetable|Rock}}<br />
{{typetable|Ground}}<br />
|-<br />
|443<br />
|{{MSP|443|Gible}}<br />
|{{p|Gible}}<br />
{{typetable|Dragon}}<br />
{{typetable|Ground}}<br />
|-<br />
|526<br />
|{{MSP|526|Gigalith}}<br />
|{{p|Gigalith}}<br />
{{typetable2|Rock}}<br />
|-<br />
|203<br />
|{{MSP|203|Girafarig}}<br />
|{{p|Girafarig}}<br />
{{typetable|Normal}}<br />
{{typetable|Psychic}}<br />
|-<br />
|487<br />
|{{MSP|487|Giratina}}<br />
|{{p|Giratina}}<br />
{{typetable|Ghost}}<br />
{{typetable|Dragon}}<br />
|-<br />
|471<br />
|{{MSP|471|Glaceon}}<br />
|{{p|Glaceon}}<br />
{{typetable2|Ice}}<br />
|-<br />
|362<br />
|{{MSP|362|Glalie}}<br />
|{{p|Glalie}}<br />
{{typetable2|Ice}}<br />
|-<br />
|431<br />
|{{MSP|431|Glameow}}<br />
|{{p|Glameow}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|207<br />
|{{MSP|207|Gligar}}<br />
|{{p|Gligar}}<br />
{{typetable|Ground}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|472<br />
|{{MSP|472|Gliscor}}<br />
|{{p|Gliscor}}<br />
{{typetable|Ground}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|044<br />
|{{MSP|044|Gloom}}<br />
|{{p|Gloom}}<br />
{{typetable|Grass}}<br />
{{typetable|Poison}}<br />
|-<br />
|042<br />
|{{MSP|042|Golbat}}<br />
|{{p|Golbat}}<br />
{{typetable|Poison}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|118<br />
|{{MSP|118|Goldeen}}<br />
|{{p|Goldeen}}<br />
{{typetable2|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|055<br />
|{{MSP|055|Golduck}}<br />
|{{p|Golduck}}<br />
{{typetable2|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|076<br />
|{{MSP|076|Golem}}<br />
|{{p|Golem}}<br />
{{typetable|Rock}}<br />
{{typetable|Ground}}<br />
|-<br />
|622<br />
|{{MSP|622|Golett}}<br />
|{{p|Golett}}<br />
{{typetable|Ground}}<br />
{{typetable|Ghost}}<br />
|-<br />
|623<br />
|{{MSP|623|Golurk}}<br />
|{{p|Golurk}}<br />
{{typetable|Ground}}<br />
{{typetable|Ghost}}<br />
|-<br />
|368<br />
|{{MSP|368|Gorebyss}}<br />
|{{p|Gorebyss}}<br />
{{typetable2|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|574<br />
|{{MSP|574|Gothita}}<br />
|{{p|Gothita}}<br />
{{typetable2|Psychic}}<br />
|-<br />
|576<br />
|{{MSP|576|Gothitelle}}<br />
|{{p|Gothitelle}}<br />
{{typetable2|Psychic}}<br />
|-<br />
|575<br />
|{{MSP|575|Gothorita}}<br />
|{{p|Gothorita}}<br />
{{typetable2|Psychic}}<br />
|-<br />
|210<br />
|{{MSP|210|Granbull}}<br />
|{{p|Granbull}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|075<br />
|{{MSP|075|Graveler}}<br />
|{{p|Graveler}}<br />
{{typetable|Rock}}<br />
{{typetable|Ground}}<br />
|-<br />
|088<br />
|{{MSP|088|Grimer}}<br />
|{{p|Grimer}}<br />
{{typetable2|Poison}}<br />
|-<br />
|388<br />
|{{MSP|388|Grotle}}<br />
|{{p|Grotle}}<br />
{{typetable2|Grass}}<br />
|-<br />
|383<br />
|{{MSP|383|Groudon}}<br />
|{{p|Groudon}}<br />
{{typetable2|Ground}}<br />
|-<br />
|253<br />
|{{MSP|253|Grovyle}}<br />
|{{p|Grovyle}}<br />
{{typetable2|Grass}}<br />
|-<br />
|058<br />
|{{MSP|058|Growlithe}}<br />
|{{p|Growlithe}}<br />
{{typetable2|Fire}}<br />
|-<br />
|326<br />
|{{MSP|326|Grumpig}}<br />
|{{p|Grumpig}}<br />
{{typetable2|Psychic}}<br />
|-<br />
|316<br />
|{{MSP|316|Gulpin}}<br />
|{{p|Gulpin}}<br />
{{typetable2|Poison}}<br />
|-<br />
|533<br />
|{{MSP|533|Gurdurr}}<br />
|{{p|Gurdurr}}<br />
{{typetable2|Fighting}}<br />
|-<br />
|130<br />
|{{MSP|130|Gyarados}}<br />
|{{p|Gyarados}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
{{CompactTOC}}<br />
<br />
===H===<br />
{| {{Bluetable|background: white; margin: auto;}}<br />
|- style="background: #ccf;"<br />
! #<br />
! Icon<br />
! Name<br />
! colspan="2" | Type<br />
|-<br />
|440<br />
|{{MSP|440|Happiny}}<br />
|{{p|Happiny}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|297<br />
|{{MSP|297|Hariyama}}<br />
|{{p|Hariyama}}<br />
{{typetable2|Fighting}}<br />
|-<br />
|093<br />
|{{MSP|093|Haunter}}<br />
|{{p|Haunter}}<br />
{{typetable|Ghost}}<br />
{{typetable|Poison}}<br />
|-<br />
|612<br />
|{{MSP|612|Haxorus}}<br />
|{{p|Haxorus}}<br />
{{typetable2|Dragon}}<br />
|-<br />
|631<br />
|{{MSP|631|Heatmor}}<br />
|{{p|Heatmor}}<br />
{{typetable2|Fire}}<br />
|-<br />
|485<br />
|{{MSP|485|Heatran}}<br />
|{{p|Heatran}}<br />
{{typetable|Fire}}<br />
{{typetable|Steel}}<br />
|-<br />
|214<br />
|{{MSP|214|Heracross}}<br />
|{{p|Heracross}}<br />
{{typetable|Bug}}<br />
{{typetable|Fighting}}<br />
|-<br />
|507<br />
|{{MSP|506|Herdier}}<br />
|{{p|Herdier}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|449<br />
|{{MSP|449|Hippopotas}}<br />
|{{p|Hippopotas}}<br />
{{typetable2|Ground}}<br />
|-<br />
|450<br />
|{{MSP|450|Hippowdon}}<br />
|{{p|Hippowdon}}<br />
{{typetable2|Ground}}<br />
|-<br />
|107<br />
|{{MSP|107|Hitmonchan}}<br />
|{{p|Hitmonchan}}<br />
{{typetable2|Fighting}}<br />
|-<br />
|106<br />
|{{MSP|106|Hitmonlee}}<br />
|{{p|Hitmonlee}}<br />
{{typetable2|Fighting}}<br />
|-<br />
|237<br />
|{{MSP|237|Hitmontop}}<br />
|{{p|Hitmontop}}<br />
{{typetable2|Fighting}}<br />
|-<br />
|250<br />
|{{MSP|250|Ho-Oh}}<br />
|{{p|Ho-Oh}}<br />
{{typetable|Fire}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|430<br />
|{{MSP|430|Honchkrow}}<br />
|{{p|Honchkrow}}<br />
{{typetable|Dark}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|163<br />
|{{MSP|163|Hoothoot}}<br />
|{{p|Hoothoot}}<br />
{{typetable|Normal}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|187<br />
|{{MSP|187|Hoppip}}<br />
|{{p|Hoppip}}<br />
{{typetable|Grass}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|116<br />
|{{MSP|116|Horsea}}<br />
|{{p|Horsea}}<br />
{{typetable2|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|229<br />
|{{MSP|229|Houndoom}}<br />
|{{p|Houndoom}}<br />
{{typetable|Dark}}<br />
{{typetable|Fire}}<br />
|-<br />
|228<br />
|{{MSP|228|Houndour}}<br />
|{{p|Houndour}}<br />
{{typetable|Dark}}<br />
{{typetable|Fire}}<br />
|-<br />
|367<br />
|{{MSP|367|Huntail}}<br />
|{{p|Huntail}}<br />
{{typetable2|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|635<br />
|{{MSP|635|Hydreigon}}<br />
|{{p|Hydreigon}}<br />
{{typetable|Dark}}<br />
{{typetable|Dragon}}<br />
|-<br />
|097<br />
|{{MSP|097|Hypno}}<br />
|{{p|Hypno}}<br />
{{typetable2|Psychic}}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
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{{CompactTOC}}<br />
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===I===<br />
{| {{Bluetable|background: white; margin: auto;}}<br />
|- style="background: #ccf;"<br />
! #<br />
! Icon<br />
! Name<br />
! colspan="2" | Type<br />
|-<br />
|174<br />
|{{MSP|174|Igglybuff}}<br />
|{{p|Igglybuff}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|314<br />
|{{MSP|314|Illumise}}<br />
|{{p|Illumise}}<br />
{{typetable2|Bug}}<br />
|-<br />
|392<br />
|{{MSP|392|Infernape}}<br />
|{{p|Infernape}}<br />
{{typetable|Fire}}<br />
{{typetable|Fighting}}<br />
|-<br />
|002<br />
|{{MSP|002|Ivysaur}}<br />
|{{p|Ivysaur}}<br />
{{typetable|Grass}}<br />
{{typetable|Poison}}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
{{CompactTOC}}<br />
<br />
===J===<br />
{| {{Bluetable|background: white; margin: auto;}}<br />
|- style="background: #ccf;"<br />
! #<br />
! Icon<br />
! Name<br />
! colspan="2" | Type<br />
|-<br />
|593<br />
|{{MSP|593|Jellicent}}<br />
|{{p|Jellicent}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
{{typetable|Ghost}}<br />
|-<br />
|039<br />
|{{MSP|039|Jigglypuff}}<br />
|{{p|Jigglypuff}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|385<br />
|{{MSP|385|Jirachi}}<br />
|{{p|Jirachi}}<br />
{{typetable|Steel}}<br />
{{typetable|Psychic}}<br />
|-<br />
|135<br />
|{{MSP|135|Jolteon}}<br />
|{{p|Jolteon}}<br />
{{typetable2|Electric}}<br />
|-<br />
|595<br />
|{{MSP|595|Joltik}}<br />
|{{p|Joltik}}<br />
{{typetable|Bug}}<br />
{{typetable|Electric}}<br />
|-<br />
|189<br />
|{{MSP|189|Jumpluff}}<br />
|{{p|Jumpluff}}<br />
{{typetable|Grass}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|124<br />
|{{MSP|124|Jynx}}<br />
|{{p|Jynx}}<br />
{{typetable|Ice}}<br />
{{typetable|Psychic}}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
{{CompactTOC}}<br />
===K===<br />
{| {{Bluetable|background: white; margin: auto;}}<br />
|- style="background: #ccf;"<br />
! #<br />
! Icon<br />
! Name<br />
! colspan="2" | Type<br />
|-<br />
|140<br />
|{{MSP|140|Kabuto}}<br />
|{{p|Kabuto}}<br />
{{typetable|Rock}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|141<br />
|{{MSP|141|Kabutops}}<br />
|{{p|Kabutops}}<br />
{{typetable|Rock}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|064<br />
|{{MSP|064|Kadabra}}<br />
|{{p|Kadabra}}<br />
{{typetable2|Psychic}}<br />
|-<br />
|014<br />
|{{MSP|014|Kakuna}}<br />
|{{p|Kakuna}}<br />
{{typetable|Bug}}<br />
{{typetable|Poison}}<br />
|-<br />
|115<br />
|{{MSP|115|Kangaskhan}}<br />
|{{p|Kangaskhan}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|588<br />
|{{MSP|588|Karrablast}}<br />
|{{p|Karrablast}}<br />
{{typetable2|Bug}}<br />
|-<br />
|352<br />
|{{MSP|352|Kecleon}}<br />
|{{p|Kecleon}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|647<br />
|{{MSP|647|Keldeo}}<br />
|{{p|Keldeo}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
{{typetable|Fighting}}<br />
|-<br />
|230<br />
|{{MSP|230|Kingdra}}<br />
|{{p|Kingdra}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
{{typetable|Dragon}}<br />
|-<br />
|099<br />
|{{MSP|099|Kingler}}<br />
|{{p|Kingler}}<br />
{{typetable2|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|281<br />
|{{MSP|281|Kirlia}}<br />
|{{p|Kirlia}}<br />
{{typetable2|Psychic}}<br />
|-<br />
|600<br />
|{{MSP|600|Klang}}<br />
|{{p|Klang}}<br />
{{typetable2|Steel}}<br />
|-<br />
|599<br />
|{{MSP|599|Klink}}<br />
|{{p|Klink}}<br />
{{typetable2|Steel}}<br />
|-<br />
|601<br />
|{{MSP|601|Klinklang}}<br />
|{{p|Klinklang}}<br />
{{typetable2|Steel}}<br />
|-<br />
|109<br />
|{{MSP|109|Koffing}}<br />
|{{p|Koffing}}<br />
{{typetable2|Poison}}<br />
|-<br />
|098<br />
|{{MSP|098|Krabby}}<br />
|{{p|Krabby}}<br />
{{typetable2|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|401<br />
|{{MSP|401|Kricketot}}<br />
|{{p|Kricketot}}<br />
{{typetable2|Bug}}<br />
|-<br />
|402<br />
|{{MSP|402|Kricketune}}<br />
|{{p|Kricketune}}<br />
{{typetable2|Bug}}<br />
|-<br />
|552<br />
|{{MSP|552|Krokorok}}<br />
|{{p|Krokorok}}<br />
{{typetable|Ground}}<br />
{{typetable|Dark}}<br />
|-<br />
|553<br />
|{{MSP|553|Krookodile}}<br />
|{{p|Krookodile}}<br />
{{typetable|Ground}}<br />
{{typetable|Dark}}<br />
|-<br />
|382<br />
|{{MSP|382|Kyogre}}<br />
|{{p|Kyogre}}<br />
{{typetable2|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|646<br />
|{{MSP|646|Kyurem}}<br />
|{{p|Kyurem}}<br />
{{typetable|Dragon}}<br />
{{typetable|Ice}}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
{{CompactTOC}}<br />
===L===<br />
{| {{Bluetable|background: white; margin: auto;}}<br />
|- style="background: #ccf;"<br />
! #<br />
! Icon<br />
! Name<br />
! colspan="2" | Type<br />
|-<br />
|305<br />
|{{MSP|305|Lairon}}<br />
|{{p|Lairon}}<br />
{{typetable|Steel}}<br />
{{typetable|Rock}}<br />
|-<br />
|608<br />
|{{MSP|608|Lampent}}<br />
|{{p|Lampent}}<br />
{{typetable|Ghost}}<br />
{{typetable|Fire}}<br />
|-<br />
|645<br />
|{{MSP|645|Landorus}}<br />
|{{p|Landorus}}<br />
{{typetable|Ground}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|171<br />
|{{MSP|171|Lanturn}}<br />
|{{p|Lanturn}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
{{typetable|Electric}}<br />
|-<br />
|131<br />
|{{MSP|131|Lapras}}<br />
|{{p|Lapras}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
{{typetable|Ice}}<br />
|-<br />
|636<br />
|{{MSP|636|Larvesta}}<br />
|{{p|Larvesta}}<br />
{{typetable|Bug}}<br />
{{typetable|Fire}}<br />
|-<br />
|246<br />
|{{MSP|246|Larvitar}}<br />
|{{p|Larvitar}}<br />
{{typetable|Rock}}<br />
{{typetable|Ground}}<br />
|-<br />
|380<br />
|{{MSP|380|Latias}}<br />
|{{p|Latias}}<br />
{{typetable|Dragon}}<br />
{{typetable|Psychic}}<br />
|-<br />
|381<br />
|{{MSP|381|Latios}}<br />
|{{p|Latios}}<br />
{{typetable|Dragon}}<br />
{{typetable|Psychic}}<br />
|-<br />
|470<br />
|{{MSP|470|Leafeon}}<br />
|{{p|Leafeon}}<br />
{{typetable2|Grass}}<br />
|-<br />
|542<br />
|{{MSP|542|Leavanny}}<br />
|{{p|Leavanny}}<br />
{{typetable|Bug}}<br />
{{typetable|Grass}}<br />
|-<br />
|166<br />
|{{MSP|166|Ledian}}<br />
|{{p|Ledian}}<br />
{{typetable|Bug}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|165<br />
|{{MSP|165|Ledyba}}<br />
|{{p|Ledyba}}<br />
{{typetable|Bug}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|463<br />
|{{MSP|463|Lickilicky}}<br />
|{{p|Lickilicky}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|108<br />
|{{MSP|108|Lickitung}}<br />
|{{p|Lickitung}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|510<br />
|{{MSP|510|Liepard}}<br />
|{{p|Liepard}}<br />
{{typetable2|Dark}}<br />
|-<br />
|345<br />
|{{MSP|345|Lileep}}<br />
|{{p|Lileep}}<br />
{{typetable|Rock}}<br />
{{typetable|Grass}}<br />
|-<br />
|549<br />
|{{MSP|549|Lilligant}}<br />
|{{p|Lilligant}}<br />
{{typetable2|Grass}}<br />
|-<br />
|506<br />
|{{MSP|506|Lillipup}}<br />
|{{p|Lillipup}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|264<br />
|{{MSP|264|Linoone}}<br />
|{{p|Linoone}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|607<br />
|{{MSP|607|Litwick}}<br />
|{{p|Litwick}}<br />
{{typetable|Ghost}}<br />
{{typetable|Fire}}<br />
|-<br />
|271<br />
|{{MSP|271|Lombre}}<br />
|{{p|Lombre}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
{{typetable|Grass}}<br />
|-<br />
|428<br />
|{{MSP|428|Lopunny}}<br />
|{{p|Lopunny}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|270<br />
|{{MSP|270|Lotad}}<br />
|{{p|Lotad}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
{{typetable|Grass}}<br />
|-<br />
|294<br />
|{{MSP|294|Loudred}}<br />
|{{p|Loudred}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|448<br />
|{{MSP|448|Lucario}}<br />
|{{p|Lucario}}<br />
{{typetable|Fighting}}<br />
{{typetable|Steel}}<br />
|-<br />
|272<br />
|{{MSP|272|Ludicolo}}<br />
|{{p|Ludicolo}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
{{typetable|Grass}}<br />
|-<br />
|249<br />
|{{MSP|249|Lugia}}<br />
|{{p|Lugia}}<br />
{{typetable|Psychic}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|457<br />
|{{MSP|457|Lumineon}}<br />
|{{p|Lumineon}}<br />
{{typetable2|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|337<br />
|{{MSP|337|Lunatone}}<br />
|{{p|Lunatone}}<br />
{{typetable|Rock}}<br />
{{typetable|Psychic}}<br />
|-<br />
|370<br />
|{{MSP|370|Luvdisc}}<br />
|{{p|Luvdisc}}<br />
{{typetable2|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|404<br />
|{{MSP|404|Luxio}}<br />
|{{p|Luxio}}<br />
{{typetable2|Electric}}<br />
|-<br />
|405<br />
|{{MSP|405|Luxray}}<br />
|{{p|Luxray}}<br />
{{typetable2|Electric}}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
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{{CompactTOC}}<br />
===M===<br />
{| {{Bluetable|background: white; margin: auto;}}<br />
|- style="background: #ccf;"<br />
! #<br />
! Icon<br />
! Name<br />
! colspan="2" | Type<br />
|-<br />
|068<br />
|{{MSP|068|Machamp}}<br />
|{{p|Machamp}}<br />
{{typetable2|Fighting}}<br />
|-<br />
|067<br />
|{{MSP|067|Machoke}}<br />
|{{p|Machoke}}<br />
{{typetable2|Fighting}}<br />
|-<br />
|066<br />
|{{MSP|066|Machop}}<br />
|{{p|Machop}}<br />
{{typetable2|Fighting}}<br />
|-<br />
|240<br />
|{{MSP|240|Magby}}<br />
|{{p|Magby}}<br />
{{typetable2|Fire}}<br />
|-<br />
|219<br />
|{{MSP|219|Magcargo}}<br />
|{{p|Magcargo}}<br />
{{typetable|Fire}}<br />
{{typetable|Rock}}<br />
|-<br />
|129<br />
|{{MSP|129|Magikarp}}<br />
|{{p|Magikarp}}<br />
{{typetable2|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|126<br />
|{{MSP|126|Magmar}}<br />
|{{p|Magmar}}<br />
{{typetable2|Fire}}<br />
|-<br />
|467<br />
|{{MSP|467|Magmortar}}<br />
|{{p|Magmortar}}<br />
{{typetable2|Fire}}<br />
|-<br />
|081<br />
|{{MSP|081|Magnemite}}<br />
|{{p|Magnemite}}<br />
{{typetable|Electric}}<br />
{{typetable|Steel}}<br />
|-<br />
|082<br />
|{{MSP|082|Magneton}}<br />
|{{p|Magneton}}<br />
{{typetable|Electric}}<br />
{{typetable|Steel}}<br />
|-<br />
|462<br />
|{{MSP|462|Magnezone}}<br />
|{{p|Magnezone}}<br />
{{typetable|Electric}}<br />
{{typetable|Steel}}<br />
|-<br />
|296<br />
|{{MSP|296|Makuhita}}<br />
|{{p|Makuhita}}<br />
{{typetable2|Fighting}}<br />
|-<br />
|473<br />
|{{MSP|473|Mamoswine}}<br />
|{{p|Mamoswine}}<br />
{{typetable|Ice}}<br />
{{typetable|Ground}}<br />
|-<br />
|490<br />
|{{MSP|490|Manaphy}}<br />
|{{p|Manaphy}}<br />
{{typetable2|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|630<br />
|{{MSP|630|Mandibuzz}}<br />
|{{p|Mandibuzz}}<br />
{{typetable|Dark}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|310<br />
|{{MSP|310|Manectric}}<br />
|{{p|Manectric}}<br />
{{typetable2|Electric}}<br />
|-<br />
|056<br />
|{{MSP|056|Mankey}}<br />
|{{p|Mankey}}<br />
{{typetable2|Fighting}}<br />
|-<br />
|226<br />
|{{MSP|226|Mantine}}<br />
|{{p|Mantine}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|458<br />
|{{MSP|458|Mantyke}}<br />
|{{p|Mantyke}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|556<br />
|{{MSP|556|Maractus}}<br />
|{{p|Maractus}}<br />
{{typetable2|Grass}}<br />
|-<br />
|179<br />
|{{MSP|179|Mareep}}<br />
|{{p|Mareep}}<br />
{{typetable2|Electric}}<br />
|-<br />
|183<br />
|{{MSP|183|Marill}}<br />
|{{p|Marill}}<br />
{{typetable2|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|105<br />
|{{MSP|105|Marowak}}<br />
|{{p|Marowak}}<br />
{{typetable2|Ground}}<br />
|-<br />
|259<br />
|{{MSP|259|Marshtomp}}<br />
|{{p|Marshtomp}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
{{typetable|Ground}}<br />
|-<br />
|284<br />
|{{MSP|284|Masquerain}}<br />
|{{p|Masquerain}}<br />
{{typetable|Bug}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|303<br />
|{{MSP|303|Mawile}}<br />
|{{p|Mawile}}<br />
{{typetable2|Steel}}<br />
|-<br />
|308<br />
|{{MSP|308|Medicham}}<br />
|{{p|Medicham}}<br />
{{typetable|Fighting}}<br />
{{typetable|Psychic}}<br />
|-<br />
|307<br />
|{{MSP|307|Meditite}}<br />
|{{p|Meditite}}<br />
{{typetable|Fighting}}<br />
{{typetable|Psychic}}<br />
|-<br />
|154<br />
|{{MSP|154|Meganium}}<br />
|{{p|Meganium}}<br />
{{typetable2|Grass}}<br />
|-<br />
|648<br />
|{{MSP|648|Meloetta}}<br />
|{{p|Meloetta}}<br />
{{typetable|Normal}}<br />
{{typetable|Psychic}}<br />
|-<br />
|052<br />
|{{MSP|052|Meowth}}<br />
|{{p|Meowth}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|481<br />
|{{MSP|481|Mesprit}}<br />
|{{p|Mesprit}}<br />
{{typetable2|Psychic}}<br />
|-<br />
|376<br />
|{{MSP|376|Metagross}}<br />
|{{p|Metagross}}<br />
{{typetable|Steel}}<br />
{{typetable|Psychic}}<br />
|-<br />
|375<br />
|{{MSP|375|Metang}}<br />
|{{p|Metang}}<br />
{{typetable|Steel}}<br />
{{typetable|Psychic}}<br />
|-<br />
|011<br />
|{{MSP|011|Metapod}}<br />
|{{p|Metapod}}<br />
{{typetable2|Bug}}<br />
|-<br />
|151<br />
|{{MSP|151|Mew}}<br />
|{{p|Mew}}<br />
{{typetable2|Psychic}}<br />
|-<br />
|150<br />
|{{MSP|150|Mewtwo}}<br />
|{{p|Mewtwo}}<br />
{{typetable2|Psychic}}<br />
|-<br />
|619<br />
|{{MSP|619|Mienfoo}}<br />
|{{p|Mienfoo}}<br />
{{typetable2|Fighting}}<br />
|-<br />
|620<br />
|{{MSP|620|Mienshao}}<br />
|{{p|Mienshao}}<br />
{{typetable2|Fighting}}<br />
|-<br />
|262<br />
|{{MSP|262|Mightyena}}<br />
|{{p|Mightyena}}<br />
{{typetable2|Dark}}<br />
|-<br />
|350<br />
|{{MSP|350|Milotic}}<br />
|{{p|Milotic}}<br />
{{typetable2|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|241<br />
|{{MSP|241|Miltank}}<br />
|{{p|Miltank}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|439<br />
|{{MSP|439|Mime Jr.}}<br />
|{{p|Mime Jr.}}<br />
{{typetable2|Psychic}}<br />
|-<br />
|572<br />
|{{MSP|572|Minccino}}<br />
|{{p|Minccino}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|312<br />
|{{MSP|312|Minun}}<br />
|{{p|Minun}}<br />
{{typetable2|Electric}}<br />
|-<br />
|200<br />
|{{MSP|200|Misdreavus}}<br />
|{{p|Misdreavus}}<br />
{{typetable2|Ghost}}<br />
|-<br />
|429<br />
|{{MSP|429|Mismagius}}<br />
|{{p|Mismagius}}<br />
{{typetable2|Ghost}}<br />
|-<br />
|146<br />
|{{MSP|146|Moltres}}<br />
|{{p|Moltres}}<br />
{{typetable|Fire}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|391<br />
|{{MSP|391|Monferno}}<br />
|{{p|Monferno}}<br />
{{typetable|Fire}}<br />
{{typetable|Fighting}}<br />
|-<br />
|414<br />
|{{MSP|414|Mothim}}<br />
|{{p|Mothim}}<br />
{{typetable|Bug}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|122<br />
|{{MSP|122|Mr. Mime}}<br />
|{{p|Mr. Mime}}<br />
{{typetable2|Psychic}}<br />
|-<br />
|258<br />
|{{MSP|258|Mudkip}}<br />
|{{p|Mudkip}}<br />
{{typetable2|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|089<br />
|{{MSP|089|Muk}}<br />
|{{p|Muk}}<br />
{{typetable2|Poison}}<br />
|-<br />
|446<br />
|{{MSP|446|Munchlax}}<br />
|{{p|Munchlax}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|517<br />
|{{MSP|517|Munna}}<br />
|{{p|Munna}}<br />
{{typetable2|Psychic}}<br />
|-<br />
|198<br />
|{{MSP|198|Murkrow}}<br />
|{{p|Murkrow}}<br />
{{typetable|Dark}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|518<br />
|{{MSP|518|Musharna}}<br />
|{{p|Musharna}}<br />
{{typetable2|Psychic}}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
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===N===<br />
{| {{Bluetable|background: white; margin: auto;}}<br />
|- style="background: #ccf;"<br />
! #<br />
! Icon<br />
! Name<br />
! colspan="2" | Type<br />
|-<br />
|177<br />
|{{MSP|177|Natu}}<br />
|{{p|Natu}}<br />
{{typetable|Psychic}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|034<br />
|{{MSP|034|Nidoking}}<br />
|{{p|Nidoking}}<br />
{{typetable|Poison}}<br />
{{typetable|Ground}}<br />
|-<br />
|031<br />
|{{MSP|031|Nidoqueen}}<br />
|{{p|Nidoqueen}}<br />
{{typetable|Poison}}<br />
{{typetable|Ground}}<br />
|-<br />
|029<br />
|{{MSP|029|Nidoran♀}}<br />
|{{p|Nidoran♀}}<br />
{{typetable2|Poison}}<br />
|-<br />
|032<br />
|{{MSP|032|Nidoran♂}}<br />
|{{p|Nidoran♂}}<br />
{{typetable2|Poison}}<br />
|-<br />
|030<br />
|{{MSP|030|Nidorina}}<br />
|{{p|Nidorina}}<br />
{{typetable2|Poison}}<br />
|-<br />
|033<br />
|{{MSP|033|Nidorino}}<br />
|{{p|Nidorino}}<br />
{{typetable2|Poison}}<br />
|-<br />
|290<br />
|{{MSP|290|Nincada}}<br />
|{{p|Nincada}}<br />
{{typetable|Bug}}<br />
{{typetable|Ground}}<br />
|-<br />
|038<br />
|{{MSP|038|Ninetales}}<br />
|{{p|Ninetales}}<br />
{{typetable2|Fire}}<br />
|-<br />
|291<br />
|{{MSP|291|Ninjask}}<br />
|{{p|Ninjask}}<br />
{{typetable|Bug}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|164<br />
|{{MSP|164|Noctowl}}<br />
|{{p|Noctowl}}<br />
{{typetable|Normal}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|299<br />
|{{MSP|299|Nosepass}}<br />
|{{p|Nosepass}}<br />
{{typetable2|Rock}}<br />
|-<br />
|322<br />
|{{MSP|322|Numel}}<br />
|{{p|Numel}}<br />
{{typetable|Fire}}<br />
{{typetable|Ground}}<br />
|-<br />
|274<br />
|{{MSP|274|Nuzleaf}}<br />
|{{p|Nuzleaf}}<br />
{{typetable|Grass}}<br />
{{typetable|Dark}}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
{{CompactTOC}}<br />
===O===<br />
{| {{Bluetable|background: white; margin: auto;}}<br />
|- style="background: #ccf;"<br />
! #<br />
! Icon<br />
! Name<br />
! colspan="2" | Type<br />
|-<br />
|224<br />
|{{MSP|224|Octillery}}<br />
|{{p|Octillery}}<br />
{{typetable2|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|043<br />
|{{MSP|043|Oddish}}<br />
|{{p|Oddish}}<br />
{{typetable|Grass}}<br />
{{typetable|Poison}}<br />
|-<br />
|138<br />
|{{MSP|138|Omanyte}}<br />
|{{p|Omanyte}}<br />
{{typetable|Rock}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|139<br />
|{{MSP|139|Omastar}}<br />
|{{p|Omastar}}<br />
{{typetable|Rock}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|095<br />
|{{MSP|095|Onix}}<br />
|{{p|Onix}}<br />
{{typetable|Rock}}<br />
{{typetable|Ground}}<br />
|-<br />
|501<br />
|{{MSP|501|Oshawott}}<br />
|{{p|Oshawott}}<br />
{{typetable2|Water}}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
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<br />
<br />
{{CompactTOC}}<br />
<br />
===P===<br />
{| {{Bluetable|background: white; margin: auto;}}<br />
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! #<br />
! Icon<br />
! Name<br />
! colspan="2" | Type<br />
|-<br />
|417<br />
|{{MSP|417|Pachirisu}}<br />
|{{p|Pachirisu}}<br />
{{typetable2|Electric}}<br />
|-<br />
|484<br />
|{{MSP|484|Palkia}}<br />
|{{p|Palkia}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
{{typetable|Dragon}}<br />
|-<br />
|536<br />
|{{MSP|536|Palpitoad}}<br />
|{{p|Palpitoad}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
{{typetable|Ground}}<br />
|-<br />
|515<br />
|{{MSP|515|Panpour}}<br />
|{{p|Panpour}}<br />
{{typetable2|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|511<br />
|{{MSP|511|Pansage}}<br />
|{{p|Pansage}}<br />
{{typetable2|Grass}}<br />
|-<br />
|513<br />
|{{MSP|513|Pansear}}<br />
|{{p|Pansear}}<br />
{{typetable2|Fire}}<br />
|-<br />
|046<br />
|{{MSP|046|Paras}}<br />
|{{p|Paras}}<br />
{{typetable|Bug}}<br />
{{typetable|Grass}}<br />
|-<br />
|047<br />
|{{MSP|047|Parasect}}<br />
|{{p|Parasect}}<br />
{{typetable|Bug}}<br />
{{typetable|Grass}}<br />
|-<br />
|504<br />
|{{MSP|504|Patrat}}<br />
|{{p|Patrat}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|624<br />
|{{MSP|624|Pawniard}}<br />
|{{p|Pawniard}}<br />
{{typetable|Dark}}<br />
{{typetable|Steel}}<br />
|-<br />
|279<br />
|{{MSP|279|Pelipper}}<br />
|{{p|Pelipper}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|053<br />
|{{MSP|053|Persian}}<br />
|{{p|Persian}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|548<br />
|{{MSP|548|Petilil}}<br />
|{{p|Petilil}}<br />
{{typetable2|Grass}}<br />
|-<br />
|231<br />
|{{MSP|231|Phanpy}}<br />
|{{p|Phanpy}}<br />
{{typetable2|Ground}}<br />
|-<br />
|489<br />
|{{MSP|489|Phione}}<br />
|{{p|Phione}}<br />
{{typetable2|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|172<br />
|{{MSP|172|Pichu}}<br />
|{{p|Pichu}}<br />
{{typetable2|Electric}}<br />
|-<br />
|018<br />
|{{MSP|018|Pidgeot}}<br />
|{{p|Pidgeot}}<br />
{{typetable|Normal}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|017<br />
|{{MSP|017|Pidgeotto}}<br />
|{{p|Pidgeotto}}<br />
{{typetable|Normal}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|016<br />
|{{MSP|016|Pidgey}}<br />
|{{p|Pidgey}}<br />
{{typetable|Normal}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|519<br />
|{{MSP|519|Pidove}}<br />
|{{p|Pidove}}<br />
{{typetable|Normal}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|499<br />
|{{MSP|499|Pignite}}<br />
|{{p|Pignite}}<br />
{{typetable|Fire}}<br />
{{typetable|Fighting}}<br />
|-<br />
|025<br />
|{{MSP|025|Pikachu}}<br />
|{{p|Pikachu}}<br />
{{typetable2|Electric}}<br />
|-<br />
|221<br />
|{{MSP|221|Piloswine}}<br />
|{{p|Piloswine}}<br />
{{typetable|Ice}}<br />
{{typetable|Ground}}<br />
|-<br />
|204<br />
|{{MSP|204|Pineco}}<br />
|{{p|Pineco}}<br />
{{typetable2|Bug}}<br />
|-<br />
|127<br />
|{{MSP|127|Pinsir}}<br />
|{{p|Pinsir}}<br />
{{typetable2|Bug}}<br />
|-<br />
|393<br />
|{{MSP|393|Piplup}}<br />
|{{p|Piplup}}<br />
{{typetable2|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|311<br />
|{{MSP|311|Plusle}}<br />
|{{p|Plusle}}<br />
{{typetable2|Electric}}<br />
|-<br />
|186<br />
|{{MSP|186|Politoed}}<br />
|{{p|Politoed}}<br />
{{typetable2|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|060<br />
|{{MSP|060|Poliwag}}<br />
|{{p|Poliwag}}<br />
{{typetable2|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|061<br />
|{{MSP|061|Poliwhirl}}<br />
|{{p|Poliwhirl}}<br />
{{typetable2|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|062<br />
|{{MSP|062|Poliwrath}}<br />
|{{p|Poliwrath}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
{{typetable|Fighting}}<br />
|-<br />
|077<br />
|{{MSP|077|Ponyta}}<br />
|{{p|Ponyta}}<br />
{{typetable2|Fire}}<br />
|-<br />
|261<br />
|{{MSP|261|Poochyena}}<br />
|{{p|Poochyena}}<br />
{{typetable2|Dark}}<br />
|-<br />
|137<br />
|{{MSP|137|Porygon}}<br />
|{{p|Porygon}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|233<br />
|{{MSP|233|Porygon2}}<br />
|{{p|Porygon2}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|474<br />
|{{MSP|474|Porygon-Z}}<br />
|{{p|Porygon-Z}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|057<br />
|{{MSP|057|Primeape}}<br />
|{{p|Primeape}}<br />
{{typetable2|Fighting}}<br />
|-<br />
|394<br />
|{{MSP|394|Prinplup}}<br />
|{{p|Prinplup}}<br />
{{typetable2|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|476<br />
|{{MSP|476|Probopass}}<br />
|{{p|Probopass}}<br />
{{typetable|Rock}}<br />
{{typetable|Steel}}<br />
|-<br />
|054<br />
|{{MSP|054|Psyduck}}<br />
|{{p|Psyduck}}<br />
{{typetable2|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|247<br />
|{{MSP|247|Pupitar}}<br />
|{{p|Pupitar}}<br />
{{typetable|Rock}}<br />
{{typetable|Ground}}<br />
|-<br />
|509<br />
|{{MSP|509|Purrloin}}<br />
|{{p|Purrloin}}<br />
{{typetable2|Dark}}<br />
|-<br />
|432<br />
|{{MSP|432|Purugly}}<br />
|{{p|Purugly}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
{{CompactTOC}}<br />
<br />
===Q===<br />
{| {{Bluetable|background: white; margin: auto;}}<br />
|- style="background: #ccf;"<br />
! #<br />
! Icon<br />
! Name<br />
! colspan="2" | Type<br />
|-<br />
|195<br />
|{{MSP|195|Quagsire}}<br />
|{{p|Quagsire}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
{{typetable|Ground}}<br />
|-<br />
|156<br />
|{{MSP|156|Quilava}}<br />
|{{p|Quilava}}<br />
{{typetable2|Fire}}<br />
|-<br />
|211<br />
|{{MSP|211|Qwilfish}}<br />
|{{p|Qwilfish}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
{{typetable|Poison}}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
{{CompactTOC}}<br />
===R===<br />
{| {{Bluetable|background: white; margin: auto;}}<br />
|- style="background: #ccf;"<br />
! #<br />
! Icon<br />
! Name<br />
! colspan="2" | Type<br />
|-<br />
|026<br />
|{{MSP|026|Raichu}}<br />
|{{p|Raichu}}<br />
{{typetable2|Electric}}<br />
|-<br />
|243<br />
|{{MSP|243|Raikou}}<br />
|{{p|Raikou}}<br />
{{typetable2|Electric}}<br />
|-<br />
|280<br />
|{{MSP|280|Ralts}}<br />
|{{p|Ralts}}<br />
{{typetable2|Psychic}}<br />
|-<br />
|409<br />
|{{MSP|409|Rampardos}}<br />
|{{p|Rampardos}}<br />
{{typetable2|Rock}}<br />
|-<br />
|078<br />
|{{MSP|078|Rapidash}}<br />
|{{p|Rapidash}}<br />
{{typetable2|Fire}}<br />
|-<br />
|020<br />
|{{MSP|020|Raticate}}<br />
|{{p|Raticate}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|019<br />
|{{MSP|019|Rattata}}<br />
|{{p|Rattata}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|384<br />
|{{MSP|384|Rayquaza}}<br />
|{{p|Rayquaza}}<br />
{{typetable|Dragon}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|378<br />
|{{MSP|378|Regice}}<br />
|{{p|Regice}}<br />
{{typetable2|Ice}}<br />
|-<br />
|486<br />
|{{MSP|486|Regigigas}}<br />
|{{p|Regigigas}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|377<br />
|{{MSP|377|Regirock}}<br />
|{{p|Regirock}}<br />
{{typetable2|Rock}}<br />
|-<br />
|379<br />
|{{MSP|379|Registeel}}<br />
|{{p|Registeel}}<br />
{{typetable2|Steel}}<br />
|-<br />
|369<br />
|{{MSP|369|Relicanth}}<br />
|{{p|Relicanth}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
{{typetable|Rock}}<br />
|-<br />
|223<br />
|{{MSP|223|Remoraid}}<br />
|{{p|Remoraid}}<br />
{{typetable2|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|643<br />
|{{MSP|643|Reshiram}}<br />
|{{p|Reshiram}}<br />
{{typetable|Dragon}}<br />
{{typetable|Fire}}<br />
|-<br />
|579<br />
|{{MSP|579|Reuniclus}}<br />
|{{p|Reuniclus}}<br />
{{typetable2|Psychic}}<br />
|-<br />
|112<br />
|{{MSP|112|Rhydon}}<br />
|{{p|Rhydon}}<br />
{{typetable|Ground}}<br />
{{typetable|Rock}}<br />
|-<br />
|111<br />
|{{MSP|111|Rhyhorn}}<br />
|{{p|Rhyhorn}}<br />
{{typetable|Ground}}<br />
{{typetable|Rock}}<br />
|-<br />
|464<br />
|{{MSP|464|Rhyperior}}<br />
|{{p|Rhyperior}}<br />
{{typetable|Ground}}<br />
{{typetable|Rock}}<br />
|-<br />
|447<br />
|{{MSP|447|Riolu}}<br />
|{{p|Riolu}}<br />
{{typetable2|Fighting}}<br />
|-<br />
|524<br />
|{{MSP|524|Roggenrola}}<br />
|{{p|Roggenrola}}<br />
{{typetable2|Rock}}<br />
|-<br />
|315<br />
|{{MSP|315|Roselia}}<br />
|{{p|Roselia}}<br />
{{typetable|Grass}}<br />
{{typetable|Poison}}<br />
|-<br />
|407<br />
|{{MSP|407|Roserade}}<br />
|{{p|Roserade}}<br />
{{typetable|Grass}}<br />
{{typetable|Poison}}<br />
|-<br />
|479<br />
|{{MSP|479|Rotom}}<br />
|{{p|Rotom}}<br />
{{typetable|Electric}}<br />
{{typetable|Ghost}}<br />
|-<br />
|627<br />
|{{MSP|627|Rufflet}}<br />
|{{p|Rufflet}}<br />
{{typetable|Normal}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
{{CompactTOC}}<br />
<br />
===S===<br />
{| {{Bluetable|background: white; margin: auto;}}<br />
|- style="background: #ccf;"<br />
! #<br />
! Icon<br />
! Name<br />
! colspan="2" | Type<br />
|-<br />
|302<br />
|{{MSP|302|Sableye}}<br />
|{{p|Sableye}}<br />
{{typetable|Dark}}<br />
{{typetable|Ghost}}<br />
|-<br />
|373<br />
|{{MSP|373|Salamence}}<br />
|{{p|Salamence}}<br />
{{typetable|Dragon}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|503<br />
|{{MSP|503|Samurott}}<br />
|{{p|Samurott}}<br />
{{typetable2|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|551<br />
|{{MSP|551|Sandile}}<br />
|{{p|Sandile}}<br />
{{typetable|Ground}}<br />
{{typetable|Dark}}<br />
|-<br />
|027<br />
|{{MSP|027|Sandshrew}}<br />
|{{p|Sandshrew}}<br />
{{typetable2|Ground}}<br />
|-<br />
|028<br />
|{{MSP|028|Sandslash}}<br />
|{{p|Sandslash}}<br />
{{typetable2|Ground}}<br />
|-<br />
|539<br />
|{{MSP|539|Sawk}}<br />
|{{p|Sawk}}<br />
{{typetable2|Fighting}}<br />
|-<br />
|586<br />
|{{MSP|586|Sawsbuck}}<br />
|{{p|Sawsbuck}}<br />
{{typetable|Normal}}<br />
{{typetable|Grass}}<br />
|-<br />
|254<br />
|{{MSP|254|Sceptile}}<br />
|{{p|Sceptile}}<br />
{{typetable2|Grass}}<br />
|-<br />
|212<br />
|{{MSP|212|Scizor}}<br />
|{{p|Scizor}}<br />
{{typetable|Bug}}<br />
{{typetable|Steel}}<br />
|-<br />
|545<br />
|{{MSP|545|Scolipede}}<br />
|{{p|Scolipede}}<br />
{{typetable|Bug}}<br />
{{typetable|Poison}}<br />
|-<br />
|560<br />
|{{MSP|560|Scrafty}}<br />
|{{p|Scrafty}}<br />
{{typetable|Dark}}<br />
{{typetable|Fighting}}<br />
|-<br />
|559<br />
|{{MSP|559|Scraggy}}<br />
|{{p|Scraggy}}<br />
{{typetable|Dark}}<br />
{{typetable|Fighting}}<br />
|-<br />
|123<br />
|{{MSP|123|Scyther}}<br />
|{{p|Scyther}}<br />
{{typetable|Bug}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|117<br />
|{{MSP|117|Seadra}}<br />
|{{p|Seadra}}<br />
{{typetable2|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|119<br />
|{{MSP|119|Seaking}}<br />
|{{p|Seaking}}<br />
{{typetable2|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|364<br />
|{{MSP|364|Sealeo}}<br />
|{{p|Sealeo}}<br />
{{typetable|Ice}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|273<br />
|{{MSP|273|Seedot}}<br />
|{{p|Seedot}}<br />
{{typetable2|Grass}}<br />
|-<br />
|086<br />
|{{MSP|086|Seel}}<br />
|{{p|Seel}}<br />
{{typetable2|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|537<br />
|{{MSP|537|Seismitoad}}<br />
|{{p|Seismitoad}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
{{typetable|Ground}}<br />
|-<br />
|161<br />
|{{MSP|161|Sentret}}<br />
|{{p|Sentret}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|497<br />
|{{MSP|497|Serperior}}<br />
|{{p|Serperior}}<br />
{{typetable2|Grass}}<br />
|-<br />
|496<br />
|{{MSP|496|Servine}}<br />
|{{p|Servine}}<br />
{{typetable2|Grass}}<br />
|-<br />
|336<br />
|{{MSP|336|Seviper}}<br />
|{{p|Seviper}}<br />
{{typetable2|Poison}}<br />
|-<br />
|540<br />
|{{MSP|540|Sewaddle}}<br />
|{{p|Sewaddle}}<br />
{{typetable|Bug}}<br />
{{typetable|Grass}}<br />
|-<br />
|319<br />
|{{MSP|319|Sharpedo}}<br />
|{{p|Sharpedo}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
{{typetable|Dark}}<br />
|-<br />
|492<br />
|{{MSP|492|Shaymin}}<br />
|{{p|Shaymin}}<br />
{{typetable2|Grass}}<br />
|-<br />
|292<br />
|{{MSP|292|Shedinja}}<br />
|{{p|Shedinja}}<br />
{{typetable|Bug}}<br />
{{typetable|Ghost}}<br />
|-<br />
|372<br />
|{{MSP|372|Shelgon}}<br />
|{{p|Shelgon}}<br />
{{typetable2|Dragon}}<br />
|-<br />
|090<br />
|{{MSP|090|Shellder}}<br />
|{{p|Shellder}}<br />
{{typetable2|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|422<br />
|{{MSP|422|Shellos}}<br />
|{{p|Shellos}}<br />
{{typetable2|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|616<br />
|{{MSP|616|Shelmet}}<br />
|{{p|Shelmet}}<br />
{{typetable2|Bug}}<br />
|-<br />
|410<br />
|{{MSP|410|Shieldon}}<br />
|{{p|Shieldon}}<br />
{{typetable|Rock}}<br />
{{typetable|Steel}}<br />
|-<br />
|275<br />
|{{MSP|275|Shiftry}}<br />
|{{p|Shiftry}}<br />
{{typetable|Grass}}<br />
{{typetable|Dark}}<br />
|-<br />
|403<br />
|{{MSP|403|Shinx}}<br />
|{{p|Shinx}}<br />
{{typetable2|Electric}}<br />
|-<br />
|285<br />
|{{MSP|285|Shroomish}}<br />
|{{p|Shroomish}}<br />
{{typetable2|Grass}}<br />
|-<br />
|213<br />
|{{MSP|213|Shuckle}}<br />
|{{p|Shuckle}}<br />
{{typetable|Bug}}<br />
{{typetable|Rock}}<br />
|-<br />
|353<br />
|{{MSP|353|Shuppet}}<br />
|{{p|Shuppet}}<br />
{{typetable2|Ghost}}<br />
|-<br />
|561<br />
|{{MSP|561|Sigilyph}}<br />
|{{p|Sigilyph}}<br />
{{typetable|Psychic}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|266<br />
|{{MSP|266|Silcoon}}<br />
|{{p|Silcoon}}<br />
{{typetable2|Bug}}<br />
|-<br />
|516<br />
|{{MSP|516|Simipour}}<br />
|{{p|Simipour}}<br />
{{typetable2|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|512<br />
|{{MSP|512|Simisage}}<br />
|{{p|Simisage}}<br />
{{typetable2|Grass}}<br />
|-<br />
|514<br />
|{{MSP|514|Simisear}}<br />
|{{p|Simisear}}<br />
{{typetable2|Fire}}<br />
|-<br />
|227<br />
|{{MSP|227|Skarmory}}<br />
|{{p|Skarmory}}<br />
{{typetable|Steel}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|188<br />
|{{MSP|188|Skiploom}}<br />
|{{p|Skiploom}}<br />
{{typetable|Grass}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|300<br />
|{{MSP|300|Skitty}}<br />
|{{p|Skitty}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|451<br />
|{{MSP|451|Skorupi}}<br />
|{{p|Skorupi}}<br />
{{typetable|Poison}}<br />
{{typetable|Bug}}<br />
|-<br />
|435<br />
|{{MSP|435|Skuntank}}<br />
|{{p|Skuntank}}<br />
{{typetable|Poison}}<br />
{{typetable|Dark}}<br />
|-<br />
|289<br />
|{{MSP|289|Slaking}}<br />
|{{p|Slaking}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|287<br />
|{{MSP|287|Slakoth}}<br />
|{{p|Slakoth}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|080<br />
|{{MSP|080|Slowbro}}<br />
|{{p|Slowbro}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
{{typetable|Psychic}}<br />
|-<br />
|199<br />
|{{MSP|199|Slowking}}<br />
|{{p|Slowking}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
{{typetable|Psychic}}<br />
|-<br />
|079<br />
|{{MSP|079|Slowpoke}}<br />
|{{p|Slowpoke}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
{{typetable|Psychic}}<br />
|-<br />
|218<br />
|{{MSP|218|Slugma}}<br />
|{{p|Slugma}}<br />
{{typetable2|Fire}}<br />
|-<br />
|235<br />
|{{MSP|235|Smeargle}}<br />
|{{p|Smeargle}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|238<br />
|{{MSP|238|Smoochum}}<br />
|{{p|Smoochum}}<br />
{{typetable|Ice}}<br />
{{typetable|Psychic}}<br />
|-<br />
|215<br />
|{{MSP|215|Sneasel}}<br />
|{{p|Sneasel}}<br />
{{typetable|Dark}}<br />
{{typetable|Ice}}<br />
|-<br />
|495<br />
|{{MSP|495|Snivy}}<br />
|{{p|Snivy}}<br />
{{typetable2|Grass}}<br />
|-<br />
|143<br />
|{{MSP|143|Snorlax}}<br />
|{{p|Snorlax}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|361<br />
|{{MSP|361|Snorunt}}<br />
|{{p|Snorunt}}<br />
{{typetable2|Ice}}<br />
|-<br />
|459<br />
|{{MSP|459|Snover}}<br />
|{{p|Snover}}<br />
{{typetable|Grass}}<br />
{{typetable|Ice}}<br />
|-<br />
|209<br />
|{{MSP|209|Snubbull}}<br />
|{{p|Snubbull}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|577<br />
|{{MSP|577|Solosis}}<br />
|{{p|Solosis}}<br />
{{typetable2|Psychic}}<br />
|-<br />
|338<br />
|{{MSP|338|Solrock}}<br />
|{{p|Solrock}}<br />
{{typetable|Rock}}<br />
{{typetable|Psychic}}<br />
|-<br />
|021<br />
|{{MSP|021|Spearow}}<br />
|{{p|Spearow}}<br />
{{typetable|Normal}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|363<br />
|{{MSP|363|Spheal}}<br />
|{{p|Spheal}}<br />
{{typetable|Ice}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|167<br />
|{{MSP|167|Spinarak}}<br />
|{{p|Spinarak}}<br />
{{typetable|Bug}}<br />
{{typetable|Poison}}<br />
|-<br />
|327<br />
|{{MSP|327|Spinda}}<br />
|{{p|Spinda}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|442<br />
|{{MSP|442|Spiritomb}}<br />
|{{p|Spiritomb}}<br />
{{typetable|Ghost}}<br />
{{typetable|Dark}}<br />
|-<br />
|325<br />
|{{MSP|325|Spoink}}<br />
|{{p|Spoink}}<br />
{{typetable2|Psychic}}<br />
|-<br />
|007<br />
|{{MSP|007|Squirtle}}<br />
|{{p|Squirtle}}<br />
{{typetable2|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|234<br />
|{{MSP|234|Stantler}}<br />
|{{p|Stantler}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|398<br />
|{{MSP|398|Staraptor}}<br />
|{{p|Staraptor}}<br />
{{typetable|Normal}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|397<br />
|{{MSP|397|Staravia}}<br />
|{{p|Staravia}}<br />
{{typetable|Normal}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|396<br />
|{{MSP|396|Starly}}<br />
|{{p|Starly}}<br />
{{typetable|Normal}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|121<br />
|{{MSP|121|Starmie}}<br />
|{{p|Starmie}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
{{typetable|Psychic}}<br />
|-<br />
|120<br />
|{{MSP|120|Staryu}}<br />
|{{p|Staryu}}<br />
{{typetable2|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|208<br />
|{{MSP|208|Steelix}}<br />
|{{p|Steelix}}<br />
{{typetable|Steel}}<br />
{{typetable|Ground}}<br />
|-<br />
|508<br />
|{{MSP|508|Stoutland}}<br />
|{{p|Stoutland}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|618<br />
|{{MSP|618|Stunfisk}}<br />
|{{p|Stunfisk}}<br />
{{typetable|Ground}}<br />
{{typetable|Electric}}<br />
|-<br />
|434<br />
|{{MSP|434|Stunky}}<br />
|{{p|Stunky}}<br />
{{typetable|Poison}}<br />
{{typetable|Dark}}<br />
|-<br />
|185<br />
|{{MSP|185|Sudowoodo}}<br />
|{{p|Sudowoodo}}<br />
{{typetable2|Rock}}<br />
|-<br />
|245<br />
|{{MSP|245|Suicune}}<br />
|{{p|Suicune}}<br />
{{typetable2|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|192<br />
|{{MSP|192|Sunflora}}<br />
|{{p|Sunflora}}<br />
{{typetable2|Grass}}<br />
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|191<br />
|{{MSP|191|Sunkern}}<br />
|{{p|Sunkern}}<br />
{{typetable2|Grass}}<br />
|-<br />
|283<br />
|{{MSP|283|Surskit}}<br />
|{{p|Surskit}}<br />
{{typetable|Bug}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
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|333<br />
|{{MSP|333|Swablu}}<br />
|{{p|Swablu}}<br />
{{typetable|Normal}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|541<br />
|{{MSP|541|Swadloon}}<br />
|{{p|Swadloon}}<br />
{{typetable|Bug}}<br />
{{typetable|Grass}}<br />
|-<br />
|317<br />
|{{MSP|317|Swalot}}<br />
|{{p|Swalot}}<br />
{{typetable2|Poison}}<br />
|-<br />
|260<br />
|{{MSP|260|Swampert}}<br />
|{{p|Swampert}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
{{typetable|Ground}}<br />
|-<br />
|581<br />
|{{MSP|581|Swanna}}<br />
|{{p|Swanna}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|277<br />
|{{MSP|277|Swellow}}<br />
|{{p|Swellow}}<br />
{{typetable|Normal}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|220<br />
|{{MSP|220|Swinub}}<br />
|{{p|Swinub}}<br />
{{typetable|Ice}}<br />
{{typetable|Ground}}<br />
|-<br />
|528<br />
|{{MSP|528|Swoobat}}<br />
|{{p|Swoobat}}<br />
{{typetable|Psychic}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|}<br />
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===T===<br />
{| {{Bluetable|background: white; margin: auto;}}<br />
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! #<br />
! Icon<br />
! Name<br />
! colspan="2" | Type<br />
|-<br />
|276<br />
|{{MSP|276|Taillow}}<br />
|{{p|Taillow}}<br />
{{typetable|Normal}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|114<br />
|{{MSP|114|Tangela}}<br />
|{{p|Tangela}}<br />
{{typetable2|Grass}}<br />
|-<br />
|465<br />
|{{MSP|465|Tangrowth}}<br />
|{{p|Tangrowth}}<br />
{{typetable2|Grass}}<br />
|-<br />
|128<br />
|{{MSP|128|Tauros}}<br />
|{{p|Tauros}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|216<br />
|{{MSP|216|Teddiursa}}<br />
|{{p|Teddiursa}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|072<br />
|{{MSP|072|Tentacool}}<br />
|{{p|Tentacool}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
{{typetable|Poison}}<br />
|-<br />
|073<br />
|{{MSP|073|Tentacruel}}<br />
|{{p|Tentacruel}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
{{typetable|Poison}}<br />
|-<br />
|498<br />
|{{MSP|498|Tepig}}<br />
|{{p|Tepig}}<br />
{{typetable2|Fire}}<br />
|-<br />
|639<br />
|{{MSP|639|Terrakion}}<br />
|{{p|Terrakion}}<br />
{{typetable|Rock}}<br />
{{typetable|Fighting}}<br />
|-<br />
|538<br />
|{{MSP|538|Throh}}<br />
|{{p|Throh}}<br />
{{typetable2|Fighting}}<br />
|-<br />
|642<br />
|{{MSP|642|Thundurus}}<br />
|{{p|Thundurus}}<br />
{{typetable|Electric}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|532<br />
|{{MSP|532|Timburr}}<br />
|{{p|Timburr}}<br />
{{typetable2|Fighting}}<br />
|-<br />
|564<br />
|{{MSP|564|Tirtouga}}<br />
|{{p|Tirtouga}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
{{typetable|Rock}}<br />
|-<br />
|468<br />
|{{MSP|468|Togekiss}}<br />
|{{p|Togekiss}}<br />
{{typetable|Normal}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|175<br />
|{{MSP|175|Togepi}}<br />
|{{p|Togepi}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|176<br />
|{{MSP|176|Togetic}}<br />
|{{p|Togetic}}<br />
{{typetable|Normal}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|255<br />
|{{MSP|255|Torchic}}<br />
|{{p|Torchic}}<br />
{{typetable2|Fire}}<br />
|-<br />
|324<br />
|{{MSP|324|Torkoal}}<br />
|{{p|Torkoal}}<br />
{{typetable2|Fire}}<br />
|-<br />
|641<br />
|{{MSP|641|Tornadus}}<br />
|{{p|Tornadus}}<br />
{{typetable2|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|389<br />
|{{MSP|389|Torterra}}<br />
|{{p|Torterra}}<br />
{{typetable|Grass}}<br />
{{typetable|Ground}}<br />
|-<br />
|158<br />
|{{MSP|158|Totodile}}<br />
|{{p|Totodile}}<br />
{{typetable2|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|454<br />
|{{MSP|454|Toxicroak}}<br />
|{{p|Toxicroak}}<br />
{{typetable|Poison}}<br />
{{typetable|Fighting}}<br />
|-<br />
|520<br />
|{{MSP|520|Tranquill}}<br />
|{{p|Tranquill}}<br />
{{typetable|Normal}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|328<br />
|{{MSP|328|Trapinch}}<br />
|{{p|Trapinch}}<br />
{{typetable2|Ground}}<br />
|-<br />
|252<br />
|{{MSP|252|Treecko}}<br />
|{{p|Treecko}}<br />
{{typetable2|Grass}}<br />
|-<br />
|357<br />
|{{MSP|357|Tropius}}<br />
|{{p|Tropius}}<br />
{{typetable|Grass}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|568<br />
|{{MSP|568|Trubbish}}<br />
|{{p|Trubbish}}<br />
{{typetable2|Poison}}<br />
|-<br />
|387<br />
|{{MSP|387|Turtwig}}<br />
|{{p|Turtwig}}<br />
{{typetable2|Grass}}<br />
|-<br />
|535<br />
|{{MSP|535|Tympole}}<br />
|{{p|Tympole}}<br />
{{typetable2|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|602<br />
|{{MSP|602|Tynamo}}<br />
|{{p|Tynamo}}<br />
{{typetable2|Electric}}<br />
|-<br />
|157<br />
|{{MSP|157|Typhlosion}}<br />
|{{p|Typhlosion}}<br />
{{typetable2|Fire}}<br />
|-<br />
|248<br />
|{{MSP|248|Tyranitar}}<br />
|{{p|Tyranitar}}<br />
{{typetable|Rock}}<br />
{{typetable|Dark}}<br />
|-<br />
|236<br />
|{{MSP|236|Tyrogue}}<br />
|{{p|Tyrogue}}<br />
{{typetable2|Fighting}}<br />
|}<br />
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<br />
<br />
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{{CompactTOC}}<br />
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===U===<br />
{| {{Bluetable|background: white; margin: auto;}}<br />
|- style="background: #ccf;"<br />
! #<br />
! Icon<br />
! Name<br />
! colspan="2" | Type<br />
|-<br />
|197<br />
|{{MSP|197|Umbreon}}<br />
|{{p|Umbreon}}<br />
{{typetable2|Dark}}<br />
|-<br />
|521<br />
|{{MSP|521|Unfezant}}<br />
|{{p|Unfezant}}<br />
{{typetable|Normal}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|201<br />
|{{MSP|201|Unown}}<br />
|{{p|Unown}}<br />
{{typetable2|Psychic}}<br />
|-<br />
|217<br />
|{{MSP|217|Ursaring}}<br />
|{{p|Ursaring}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|480<br />
|{{MSP|480|Uxie}}<br />
|{{p|Uxie}}<br />
{{typetable2|Psychic}}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
{{CompactTOC}}<br />
===V===<br />
{| {{Bluetable|background: white; margin: auto;}}<br />
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! #<br />
! Icon<br />
! Name<br />
! colspan="2" | Type<br />
|-<br />
|583<br />
|{{MSP|583|Vanillish}}<br />
|{{p|Vanillish}}<br />
{{typetable2|Ice}}<br />
|-<br />
|582<br />
|{{MSP|582|Vanillite}}<br />
|{{p|Vanillite}}<br />
{{typetable2|Ice}}<br />
|-<br />
|584<br />
|{{MSP|584|Vanilluxe}}<br />
|{{p|Vanilluxe}}<br />
{{typetable2|Ice}}<br />
|-<br />
|134<br />
|{{MSP|134|Vaporeon}}<br />
|{{p|Vaporeon}}<br />
{{typetable2|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|543<br />
|{{MSP|543|Venipede}}<br />
|{{p|Venipede}}<br />
{{typetable|Bug}}<br />
{{typetable|Poison}}<br />
|-<br />
|049<br />
|{{MSP|049|Venomoth}}<br />
|{{p|Venomoth}}<br />
{{typetable|Bug}}<br />
{{typetable|Poison}}<br />
|-<br />
|048<br />
|{{MSP|048|Venonat}}<br />
|{{p|Venonat}}<br />
{{typetable|Bug}}<br />
{{typetable|Poison}}<br />
|-<br />
|003<br />
|{{MSP|003|Venusaur}}<br />
|{{p|Venusaur}}<br />
{{typetable|Grass}}<br />
{{typetable|Poison}}<br />
|-<br />
|416<br />
|{{MSP|416|Vespiquen}}<br />
|{{p|Vespiquen}}<br />
{{typetable|Bug}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|329<br />
|{{MSP|329|Vibrava}}<br />
|{{p|Vibrava}}<br />
{{typetable|Ground}}<br />
{{typetable|Dragon}}<br />
|-<br />
|494<br />
|{{MSP|494|Victini}}<br />
|{{p|Victini}}<br />
{{typetable|Psychic}}<br />
{{typetable|Fire}}<br />
|-<br />
|071<br />
|{{MSP|071|Victreebel}}<br />
|{{p|Victreebel}}<br />
{{typetable|Grass}}<br />
{{typetable|Poison}}<br />
|-<br />
|288<br />
|{{MSP|288|Vigoroth}}<br />
|{{p|Vigoroth}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|045<br />
|{{MSP|045|Vileplume}}<br />
|{{p|Vileplume}}<br />
{{typetable|Grass}}<br />
{{typetable|Poison}}<br />
|-<br />
|640<br />
|{{MSP|640|Virizion}}<br />
|{{p|Virizion}}<br />
{{typetable|Grass}}<br />
{{typetable|Fighting}}<br />
|-<br />
|313<br />
|{{MSP|313|Volbeat}}<br />
|{{p|Volbeat}}<br />
{{typetable2|Bug}}<br />
|-<br />
|637<br />
|{{MSP|637|Volcarona}}<br />
|{{p|Volcarona}}<br />
{{typetable|Bug}}<br />
{{typetable|Fire}}<br />
|-<br />
|100<br />
|{{MSP|100|Voltorb}}<br />
|{{p|Voltorb}}<br />
{{typetable2|Electric}}<br />
|-<br />
|629<br />
|{{MSP|629|Vullaby}}<br />
|{{p|Vullaby}}<br />
{{typetable|Dark}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|037<br />
|{{MSP|037|Vulpix}}<br />
|{{p|Vulpix}}<br />
{{typetable2|Fire}}<br />
|}<br />
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{{CompactTOC}}<br />
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{| {{Bluetable|background: white; margin: auto;}}<br />
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! #<br />
! Icon<br />
! Name<br />
! colspan="2" | Type<br />
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|320<br />
|{{MSP|320|Wailmer}}<br />
|{{p|Wailmer}}<br />
{{typetable2|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|321<br />
|{{MSP|321|Wailord}}<br />
|{{p|Wailord}}<br />
{{typetable2|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|365<br />
|{{MSP|365|Walrein}}<br />
|{{p|Walrein}}<br />
{{typetable|Ice}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|008<br />
|{{MSP|008|Wartortle}}<br />
|{{p|Wartortle}}<br />
{{typetable2|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|505<br />
|{{MSP|505|Watchog}}<br />
|{{p|Watchog}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|461<br />
|{{MSP|461|Weavile}}<br />
|{{p|Weavile}}<br />
{{typetable|Dark}}<br />
{{typetable|Ice}}<br />
|-<br />
|013<br />
|{{MSP|013|Weedle}}<br />
|{{p|Weedle}}<br />
{{typetable|Bug}}<br />
{{typetable|Poison}}<br />
|-<br />
|070<br />
|{{MSP|070|Weepinbell}}<br />
|{{p|Weepinbell}}<br />
{{typetable|Grass}}<br />
{{typetable|Poison}}<br />
|-<br />
|110<br />
|{{MSP|110|Weezing}}<br />
|{{p|Weezing}}<br />
{{typetable2|Poison}}<br />
|-<br />
|547<br />
|{{MSP|547|Whimsicott}}<br />
|{{p|Whimsicott}}<br />
{{typetable2|Grass}}<br />
|-<br />
|544<br />
|{{MSP|544|Whirlipede}}<br />
|{{p|Whirlipede}}<br />
{{typetable|Bug}}<br />
{{typetable|Poison}}<br />
|-<br />
|340<br />
|{{MSP|340|Whiscash}}<br />
|{{p|Whiscash}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
{{typetable|Ground}}<br />
|-<br />
|293<br />
|{{MSP|293|Whismur}}<br />
|{{p|Whismur}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|040<br />
|{{MSP|040|Wigglytuff}}<br />
|{{p|Wigglytuff}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|278<br />
|{{MSP|278|Wingull}}<br />
|{{p|Wingull}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|202<br />
|{{MSP|202|Wobbuffet}}<br />
|{{p|Wobbuffet}}<br />
{{typetable2|Psychic}}<br />
|-<br />
|527<br />
|{{MSP|527|Woobat}}<br />
|{{p|Woobat}}<br />
{{typetable|Psychic}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|194<br />
|{{MSP|194|Wooper}}<br />
|{{p|Wooper}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
{{typetable|Ground}}<br />
|-<br />
|413<br />
|{{MSP|413|Wormadam}}<br />
|{{p|Wormadam}}<br />
{{typetable|Bug}}<br />
{{typetable|Grass}}<br />
|-<br />
|413<br />
|{{MSP|413G|Wormadam}}<br />
|{{p|Wormadam}}<br />
{{typetable|Bug}}<br />
{{typetable|Ground}}<br />
|-<br />
|413<br />
|{{MSP|413S|Wormadam}}<br />
|{{p|Wormadam}}<br />
{{typetable|Bug}}<br />
{{typetable|Steel}}<br />
|-<br />
|265<br />
|{{MSP|265|Wurmple}}<br />
|{{p|Wurmple}}<br />
{{typetable2|Bug}}<br />
|-<br />
|360<br />
|{{MSP|360|Wynaut}}<br />
|{{p|Wynaut}}<br />
{{typetable2|Psychic}}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
<br />
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===X===<br />
{| {{Bluetable|background: white; margin: auto;}}<br />
|- style="background: #ccf;"<br />
! #<br />
! Icon<br />
! Name<br />
! colspan="2" | Type<br />
|-<br />
|178<br />
|{{MSP|178|Xatu}}<br />
|{{p|Xatu}}<br />
{{typetable|Psychic}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
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===Y===<br />
{| {{Bluetable|background: white; margin: auto;}}<br />
|- style="background: #ccf;"<br />
! #<br />
! Icon<br />
! Name<br />
! colspan="2" | Type<br />
|-<br />
|562<br />
|{{MSP|562|Yamask}}<br />
|{{p|Yamask}}<br />
{{typetable2|Ghost}}<br />
|-<br />
|193<br />
|{{MSP|193|Yanma}}<br />
|{{p|Yanma}}<br />
{{typetable|Bug}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|469<br />
|{{MSP|469|Yanmega}}<br />
|{{p|Yanmega}}<br />
{{typetable|Bug}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
{{CompactTOC}}<br />
===Z===<br />
{| {{Bluetable|background: white; margin: auto;}}<br />
|- style="background: #ccf;"<br />
! #<br />
! Icon<br />
! Name<br />
! colspan="2" | Type<br />
|-<br />
|335<br />
|{{MSP|335|Zangoose}}<br />
|{{p|Zangoose}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|145<br />
|{{MSP|145|Zapdos}}<br />
|{{p|Zapdos}}<br />
{{typetable|Electric}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|523<br />
|{{MSP|523|Zebstrika}}<br />
|{{p|Zebstrika}}<br />
{{typetable2|Electric}}<br />
|-<br />
|644<br />
|{{MSP|644|Zekrom}}<br />
|{{p|Zekrom}}<br />
{{typetable|Dragon}}<br />
{{typetable|Electric}}<br />
|-<br />
|263<br />
|{{MSP|263|Zigzagoon}}<br />
|{{p|Zigzagoon}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|571<br />
|{{MSP|571|Zoroark}}<br />
|{{p|Zoroark}}<br />
{{typetable2|Dark}}<br />
|-<br />
|570<br />
|{{MSP|570|Zorua}}<br />
|{{p|Zorua}}<br />
{{typetable2|Dark}}<br />
|-<br />
|041<br />
|{{MSP|041|Zubat}}<br />
|{{p|Zubat}}<br />
{{typetable|Poison}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|634<br />
|{{MSP|634|Zweilous}}<br />
|{{p|Zweilous}}<br />
{{typetable|Dark}}<br />
{{typetable|Dragon}}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
==Trivia==<br />
* 94 Pokémon begin with S, giving it the highest frequency of occurrence for an initial letter. M comes second with 57. The least frequently used letter is X, with only one name, {{p|Xatu}}, beginning with it.<br />
** In terms of letters used regardless of position, A has the highest frequency and is used 464 times. The most frequent consonant is R, with 376 uses. J and Q are each used only ten times.<br />
* The three Pokémon that start with the letter Q ({{p|Quagsire}}, {{p|Quilava}}, and {{p|Qwilfish}}) were all introduced in [[Generation II]].<br />
* Prior to [[Generation IV]], {{p|Abra}} was the first Pokémon in the alphabetical list. {{p|Abomasnow}} now holds this title.<br />
* Prior to [[Generation V]], {{p|Zubat}} was the last Pokémon in the alphabetical list. {{p|Zweilous}} now holds this title.<br />
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[[it:Elenco Pokémon per nome]]</div>Phoenixonhttps://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=List_of_Pok%C3%A9mon_by_name&diff=1628609List of Pokémon by name2012-03-18T07:43:48Z<p>Phoenixon: /* Trivia */</p>
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<div>This is an alphabetical list of Pokémon by their English language names. No Japanese romaji are included in this list, therefore, new Pokémon without English names will not be found here. This is also the list order that is seen by the {{player}} in [[Pokémon Colosseum]] and [[Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness|Pokémon XD]] in the [[Strategy Memo]] (minus Pokémon introduced after [[Generation III]]).<br />
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==List of Pokémon by name==<br />
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===A===<br />
{| {{Bluetable|background: white; margin: auto;}}<br />
|- style="background: #ccf;"<br />
! #<br />
! Icon<br />
! Name<br />
! colspan="2" | Type<br />
|-<br />
|460<br />
|{{MSP|460|Abomasnow}}<br />
|{{p|Abomasnow}}<br />
{{typetable|Grass}}<br />
{{typetable|Ice}}<br />
|-<br />
|063<br />
|{{MSP|063|Abra}}<br />
|{{p|Abra}}<br />
{{typetable2|Psychic}}<br />
|-<br />
|359<br />
|{{MSP|359|Absol}}<br />
|{{p|Absol}}<br />
{{typetable2|Dark}}<br />
|-<br />
|617<br />
|{{MSP|617|Accelgor}}<br />
|{{p|Accelgor}}<br />
{{typetable2|Bug}}<br />
|-<br />
|142<br />
|{{MSP|142|Aerodactyl}}<br />
|{{p|Aerodactyl}}<br />
{{typetable|Rock}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|306<br />
|{{MSP|306|Aggron}}<br />
|{{p|Aggron}}<br />
{{typetable|Steel}}<br />
{{typetable|Rock}}<br />
|-<br />
|190<br />
|{{MSP|190|Aipom}}<br />
|{{p|Aipom}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|065<br />
|{{MSP|065|Alakazam}}<br />
|{{p|Alakazam}}<br />
{{typetable2|Psychic}}<br />
|-<br />
|594<br />
|{{MSP|594|Alomomola}}<br />
|{{p|Alomomola}}<br />
{{typetable2|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|334<br />
|{{MSP|334|Altaria}}<br />
|{{p|Altaria}}<br />
{{typetable|Dragon}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|424<br />
||{{MSP|424|Ambipom}}<br />
|{{p|Ambipom}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|591<br />
|{{MSP|591|Amoonguss}}<br />
|{{p|Amoonguss}}<br />
{{typetable|Grass}}<br />
{{typetable|Poison}}<br />
|-<br />
|181<br />
|{{MSP|181|Ampharos}}<br />
|{{p|Ampharos}}<br />
{{typetable2|Electric}}<br />
|-<br />
|347<br />
|{{MSP|347|Anorith}}<br />
|{{p|Anorith}}<br />
{{typetable|Rock}}<br />
{{typetable|Bug}}<br />
|-<br />
|024<br />
|{{MSP|024|Arbok}}<br />
|{{p|Arbok}}<br />
{{typetable2|Poison}}<br />
|-<br />
|059<br />
|{{MSP|059|Arcanine}}<br />
|{{p|Arcanine}}<br />
{{typetable2|Fire}}<br />
|-<br />
|493<br />
|{{MSP|493|Arceus}}<br />
|{{p|Arceus}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|566<br />
|{{MSP|566|Archen}}<br />
|{{p|Archen}}<br />
{{typetable|Rock}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|567<br />
|{{MSP|567|Archeops}}<br />
|{{p|Archeops}}<br />
{{typetable|Rock}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|168<br />
|{{MSP|168|Ariados}}<br />
|{{p|Ariados}}<br />
{{typetable|Bug}}<br />
{{typetable|Poison}}<br />
|-<br />
|348<br />
|{{MSP|348|Armaldo}}<br />
|{{p|Armaldo}}<br />
{{typetable|Rock}}<br />
{{typetable|Bug}}<br />
|-<br />
|304<br />
|{{MSP|304|Aron}}<br />
|{{p|Aron}}<br />
{{typetable|Steel}}<br />
{{typetable|Rock}}<br />
|-<br />
|144<br />
|{{MSP|144|Articuno}}<br />
|{{p|Articuno}}<br />
{{typetable|Ice}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|531<br />
|{{MSP|531|Audino}}<br />
|{{p|Audino}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|610<br />
|{{MSP|610|Axew}}<br />
|{{p|Axew}}<br />
{{typetable2|Dragon}}<br />
|-<br />
|482<br />
|{{MSP|482|Azelf}}<br />
|{{p|Azelf}}<br />
{{typetable2|Psychic}}<br />
|-<br />
|184<br />
|{{MSP|184|Azumarill}}<br />
|{{p|Azumarill}}<br />
{{typetable2|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|298<br />
|{{MSP|298|Azurill}}<br />
|{{p|Azurill}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
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===B===<br />
<br />
{| {{Bluetable|background: white; margin: auto;}}<br />
|- style="background: #ccf;"<br />
! #<br />
! Icon<br />
! Name<br />
! colspan="2" | Type<br />
|-<br />
|371<br />
|{{MSP|371|Bagon}}<br />
|{{p|Bagon}}<br />
{{typetable2|Dragon}}<br />
|-<br />
|343<br />
|{{MSP|343|Baltoy}}<br />
|{{p|Baltoy}}<br />
{{typetable|Ground}}<br />
{{typetable|Psychic}}<br />
|-<br />
|354<br />
|{{MSP|354|Banette}}<br />
|{{p|Banette}}<br />
{{typetable2|Ghost}}<br />
|-<br />
|339<br />
|{{MSP|339|Barboach}}<br />
|{{p|Barboach}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
{{typetable|Ground}}<br />
|-<br />
|550<br />
|{{MSP|550|Basculin}}<br />
|{{p|Basculin}}<br />
{{typetable2|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|411<br />
|{{MSP|411|Bastiodon}}<br />
|{{p|Bastiodon}}<br />
{{typetable|Rock}}<br />
{{typetable|Steel}}<br />
|-<br />
|153<br />
|{{MSP|153|Bayleef}}<br />
|{{p|Bayleef}}<br />
{{typetable2|Grass}}<br />
|-<br />
|614<br />
|{{MSP|614|Beartic}}<br />
|{{p|Beartic}}<br />
{{typetable2|Ice}}<br />
|-<br />
|267<br />
|{{MSP|267|Beautifly}}<br />
|{{p|Beautifly}}<br />
{{typetable|Bug}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|015<br />
|{{MSP|015|Beedrill}}<br />
|{{p|Beedrill}}<br />
{{typetable|Bug}}<br />
{{typetable|Poison}}<br />
|-<br />
|606<br />
|{{MSP|606|Beheeyem}}<br />
|{{p|Beheeyem}}<br />
{{typetable2|Psychic}}<br />
|-<br />
|374<br />
||{{MSP|374|Beldum}}<br />
|{{p|Beldum}}<br />
{{typetable|Steel}}<br />
{{typetable|Psychic}}<br />
|-<br />
|182<br />
|{{MSP|182|Bellossom}}<br />
|{{p|Bellossom}}<br />
{{typetable2|Grass}}<br />
|-<br />
|069<br />
|{{MSP|069|Bellsprout}}<br />
|{{p|Bellsprout}}<br />
{{typetable|Grass}}<br />
{{typetable|Poison}}<br />
|-<br />
|400<br />
|{{MSP|400|Bibarel}}<br />
|{{p|Bibarel}}<br />
{{typetable|Normal}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|399<br />
|{{MSP|399|Bidoof}}<br />
|{{p|Bidoof}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|625<br />
|{{MSP|625|Bisharp}}<br />
|{{p|Bisharp}}<br />
{{typetable|Dark}}<br />
{{typetable|Steel}}<br />
|-<br />
|009<br />
|{{MSP|009|Blastoise}}<br />
|{{p|Blastoise}}<br />
{{typetable2|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|257<br />
|{{MSP|257|Blaziken}}<br />
|{{p|Blaziken}}<br />
{{typetable|Fire}}<br />
{{typetable|Fighting}}<br />
|-<br />
|242<br />
|{{MSP|242|Blissey}}<br />
|{{p|Blissey}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|522<br />
|{{MSP|522|Blitzle}}<br />
|{{p|Blitzle}}<br />
{{typetable2|Electric}}<br />
|-<br />
|525<br />
|{{MSP|525|Boldore}}<br />
|{{p|Boldore}}<br />
{{typetable2|Rock}}<br />
|-<br />
|438<br />
|{{MSP|438|Bonsly}}<br />
|{{p|Bonsly}}<br />
{{typetable2|Rock}}<br />
|-<br />
|626<br />
|{{MSP|626|Bouffalant}}<br />
|{{p|Bouffalant}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|628<br />
|{{MSP|628|Braviary}}<br />
|{{p|Braviary}}<br />
{{typetable|Normal}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|286<br />
|{{MSP|286|Breloom}}<br />
|{{p|Breloom}}<br />
{{typetable|Grass}}<br />
{{typetable|Fighting}}<br />
|-<br />
|437<br />
|{{MSP|437|Bronzong}}<br />
|{{p|Bronzong}}<br />
{{typetable|Steel}}<br />
{{typetable|Psychic}}<br />
|-<br />
|436<br />
|{{MSP|436|Bronzor}}<br />
|{{p|Bronzor}}<br />
{{typetable|Steel}}<br />
{{typetable|Psychic}}<br />
|-<br />
|406<br />
|{{MSP|406|Budew}}<br />
|{{p|Budew}}<br />
{{typetable|Grass}}<br />
{{typetable|Poison}}<br />
|-<br />
|418<br />
|{{MSP|418|Buizel}}<br />
|{{p|Buizel}}<br />
{{typetable2|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|001<br />
|{{MSP|001|Bulbasaur}}<br />
|{{p|Bulbasaur}}<br />
{{typetable|Grass}}<br />
{{typetable|Poison}}<br />
|-<br />
|427<br />
|{{MSP|427|Buneary}}<br />
|{{p|Buneary}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|412<br />
|{{MSP|412|Burmy}}<br />
|{{p|Burmy}}<br />
{{typetable2|Bug}}<br />
|-<br />
|012<br />
|{{MSP|012|Butterfree}}<br />
|{{p|Butterfree}}<br />
{{typetable|Bug}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
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===C===<br />
{| {{Bluetable|background: white; margin: auto;}}<br />
|- style="background: #ccf;"<br />
! #<br />
! Icon<br />
! Name<br />
! colspan="2" | Type<br />
|-<br />
|331<br />
|{{MSP|331|Cacnea}}<br />
|{{p|Cacnea}}<br />
{{typetable2|Grass}}<br />
|-<br />
|332<br />
|{{MSP|332|Cacturne}}<br />
|{{p|Cacturne}}<br />
{{typetable|Grass}}<br />
{{typetable|Dark}}<br />
|-<br />
|323<br />
|{{MSP|323|Camerupt}}<br />
|{{p|Camerupt}}<br />
{{typetable|Fire}}<br />
{{typetable|Ground}}<br />
|-<br />
|455<br />
|{{MSP|455|Carnivine}}<br />
|{{p|Carnivine}}<br />
{{typetable2|Grass}}<br />
|-<br />
|565<br />
|{{MSP|565|Carracosta}}<br />
|{{p|Carracosta}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
{{typetable|Rock}}<br />
|-<br />
|318<br />
|{{MSP|318|Carvanha}}<br />
|{{p|Carvanha}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
{{typetable|Dark}}<br />
|-<br />
|268<br />
|{{MSP|268|Cascoon}}<br />
|{{p|Cascoon}}<br />
{{typetable2|Bug}}<br />
|-<br />
|351<br />
|{{MSP|351|Castform}}<br />
|{{p|Castform}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|010<br />
|{{MSP|010|Caterpie}}<br />
|{{p|Caterpie}}<br />
{{typetable2|Bug}}<br />
|-<br />
|251<br />
|{{MSP|251|Celebi}}<br />
|{{p|Celebi}}<br />
{{typetable|Psychic}}<br />
{{typetable|Grass}}<br />
|-<br />
|609<br />
|{{MSP|609|Chandelure}}<br />
|{{p|Chandelure}}<br />
{{typetable|Ghost}}<br />
{{typetable|Fire}}<br />
|-<br />
|113<br />
|{{MSP|113|Chansey}}<br />
|{{p|Chansey}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|006<br />
|{{MSP|006|Charizard}}<br />
|{{p|Charizard}}<br />
{{typetable|Fire}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|004<br />
|{{MSP|004|Charmander}}<br />
|{{p|Charmander}}<br />
{{typetable2|Fire}}<br />
|-<br />
|005<br />
|{{MSP|005|Charmeleon}}<br />
|{{p|Charmeleon}}<br />
{{typetable2|Fire}}<br />
|-<br />
|441<br />
|{{MSP|441|Chatot}}<br />
|{{p|Chatot}}<br />
{{typetable|Normal}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|421<br />
|{{MSP|421|Cherrim}}<br />
|{{p|Cherrim}}<br />
{{typetable2|Grass}}<br />
|-<br />
|420<br />
|{{MSP|420|Cherubi}}<br />
|{{p|Cherubi}}<br />
{{typetable2|Grass}}<br />
|-<br />
|152<br />
|{{MSP|152|Chikorita}}<br />
|{{p|Chikorita}}<br />
{{typetable2|Grass}}<br />
|-<br />
|390<br />
|{{MSP|390|Chimchar}}<br />
|{{p|Chimchar}}<br />
{{typetable2|Fire}}<br />
|-<br />
|358<br />
|{{MSP|358|Chimecho}}<br />
|{{p|Chimecho}}<br />
{{typetable2|Psychic}}<br />
|-<br />
|170<br />
|{{MSP|170|Chinchou}}<br />
|{{p|Chinchou}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
{{typetable|Electric}}<br />
|-<br />
|433<br />
|{{MSP|433|Chingling}}<br />
|{{p|Chingling}}<br />
{{typetable2|Psychic}}<br />
|-<br />
|573<br />
|{{MSP|573|Cinccino}}<br />
|{{p|Cinccino}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|366<br />
|{{MSP|366|Clamperl}}<br />
|{{p|Clamperl}}<br />
{{typetable2|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|344<br />
|{{MSP|344|Claydol}}<br />
|{{p|Claydol}}<br />
{{typetable|Ground}}<br />
{{typetable|Psychic}}<br />
|-<br />
|036<br />
|{{MSP|036|Clefable}}<br />
|{{p|Clefable}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|035<br />
|{{MSP|035|Clefairy}}<br />
|{{p|Clefairy}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|173<br />
|{{MSP|173|Cleffa}}<br />
|{{p|Cleffa}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|091<br />
|{{MSP|091|Cloyster}}<br />
|{{p|Cloyster}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
{{typetable|Ice}}<br />
|-<br />
|638<br />
|{{MSP|638|Cobalion}}<br />
|{{p|Cobalion}}<br />
{{typetable|Steel}}<br />
{{typetable|Fighting}}<br />
|-<br />
|563<br />
|{{MSP|563|Cofagrigus}}<br />
|{{p|Cofagrigus}}<br />
{{typetable2|Ghost}}<br />
|-<br />
|415<br />
|{{MSP|415|Combee}}<br />
|{{p|Combee}}<br />
{{typetable|Bug}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|256<br />
|{{MSP|256|Combusken}}<br />
|{{p|Combusken}}<br />
{{typetable|Fire}}<br />
{{typetable|Fighting}}<br />
|-<br />
|534<br />
|{{MSP|534|Conkeldurr}}<br />
|{{p|Conkeldurr}}<br />
{{typetable2|Fighting}}<br />
|-<br />
|341<br />
|{{MSP|341|Corphish}}<br />
|{{p|Corphish}}<br />
{{typetable2|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|222<br />
|{{MSP|222|Corsola}}<br />
|{{p|Corsola}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
{{typetable|Rock}}<br />
|-<br />
|546<br />
|{{MSP|546|Cottonee}}<br />
|{{p|Cottonee}}<br />
{{typetable2|Grass}}<br />
|-<br />
|346<br />
|{{MSP|346|Cradily}}<br />
|{{p|Cradily}}<br />
{{typetable|Rock}}<br />
{{typetable|Grass}}<br />
|-<br />
|408<br />
|{{MSP|408|Cranidos}}<br />
|{{p|Cranidos}}<br />
{{typetable2|Rock}}<br />
|-<br />
|342<br />
|{{MSP|342|Crawdaunt}}<br />
|{{p|Crawdaunt}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
{{typetable|Dark}}<br />
|-<br />
|488<br />
|{{MSP|488|Cresselia}}<br />
|{{p|Cresselia}}<br />
{{typetable2|Psychic}}<br />
|-<br />
|453<br />
|{{MSP|453|Croagunk}}<br />
|{{p|Croagunk}}<br />
{{typetable|Poison}}<br />
{{typetable|Fighting}}<br />
|-<br />
|169<br />
|{{MSP|169|Crobat}}<br />
|{{p|Crobat}}<br />
{{typetable|Poison}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|159<br />
|{{MSP|159|Croconaw}}<br />
|{{p|Croconaw}}<br />
{{typetable2|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|558<br />
|{{MSP|558|Crustle}}<br />
|{{p|Crustle}}<br />
{{typetable|Bug}}<br />
{{typetable|Rock}}<br />
|-<br />
|615<br />
|{{MSP|615|Cryogonal}}<br />
|{{p|Cryogonal}}<br />
{{typetable2|Ice}}<br />
|-<br />
|613<br />
|{{MSP|613|Cubchoo}}<br />
|{{p|Cubchoo}}<br />
{{typetable2|Ice}}<br />
|-<br />
|104<br />
|{{MSP|104|Cubone}}<br />
|{{p|Cubone}}<br />
{{typetable2|Ground}}<br />
|-<br />
|155<br />
|{{MSP|155|Cyndaquil}}<br />
|{{p|Cyndaquil}}<br />
{{typetable2|Fire}}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
{{CompactTOC}}<br />
<br />
===D===<br />
{| {{Bluetable|background: white; margin: auto;}}<br />
|- style="background: #ccf;"<br />
! #<br />
! Icon<br />
! Name<br />
! colspan="2" | Type<br />
|-<br />
|491<br />
|{{MSP|491|Darkrai}}<br />
|{{p|Darkrai}}<br />
{{typetable2|Dark}}<br />
|-<br />
|555<br />
|{{MSP|555|Darmanitan}}<br />
|{{p|Darmanitan}}<br />
{{typetable2|Fire}}<br />
|-<br />
|554<br />
|{{MSP|554|Darumaka}}<br />
|{{p|Darumaka}}<br />
{{typetable2|Fire}}<br />
|-<br />
|585<br />
|{{MSP|585|Deerling}}<br />
|{{p|Deerling}}<br />
{{typetable|Normal}}<br />
{{typetable|Grass}}<br />
|-<br />
|633<br />
|{{MSP|633|Deino}}<br />
|{{p|Deino}}<br />
{{typetable|Dark}}<br />
{{typetable|Dragon}}<br />
|-<br />
|301<br />
|{{MSP|301|Delcatty}}<br />
|{{p|Delcatty}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|225<br />
|{{MSP|225|Delibird}}<br />
|{{p|Delibird}}<br />
{{typetable|Ice}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|386<br />
|{{MSP|386|Deoxys}}<br />
|{{p|Deoxys}}<br />
{{typetable2|Psychic}}<br />
|-<br />
|087<br />
|{{MSP|087|Dewgong}}<br />
|{{p|Dewgong}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
{{typetable|Ice}}<br />
|-<br />
|502<br />
|{{MSP|502|Dewott}}<br />
|{{p|Dewott}}<br />
{{typetable2|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|483<br />
|{{MSP|483|Dialga}}<br />
|{{p|Dialga}}<br />
{{typetable|Steel}}<br />
{{typetable|Dragon}}<br />
|-<br />
|050<br />
|{{MSP|050|Diglett}}<br />
|{{p|Diglett}}<br />
{{typetable2|Ground}}<br />
|-<br />
|132<br />
|{{MSP|132|Ditto}}<br />
|{{p|Ditto}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|085<br />
|{{MSP|085|Dodrio}}<br />
|{{p|Dodrio}}<br />
{{typetable|Normal}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|084<br />
|{{MSP|084|Doduo}}<br />
|{{p|Doduo}}<br />
{{typetable|Normal}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|232<br />
|{{MSP|232|Donphan}}<br />
|{{p|Donphan}}<br />
{{typetable2|Ground}}<br />
|-<br />
|148<br />
|{{MSP|148|Dragonair}}<br />
|{{p|Dragonair}}<br />
{{typetable2|Dragon}}<br />
|-<br />
|149<br />
|{{MSP|149|Dragonite}}<br />
|{{p|Dragonite}}<br />
{{typetable|Dragon}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|452<br />
|{{MSP|452|Drapion}}<br />
|{{p|Drapion}}<br />
{{typetable|Poison}}<br />
{{typetable|Dark}}<br />
|-<br />
|147<br />
|{{MSP|147|Dratini}}<br />
|{{p|Dratini}}<br />
{{typetable2|Dragon}}<br />
|-<br />
|426<br />
|{{MSP|426|Drifblim}}<br />
|{{p|Drifblim}}<br />
{{typetable|Ghost}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|425<br />
|{{MSP|425|Drifloon}}<br />
|{{p|Drifloon}}<br />
{{typetable|Ghost}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|529<br />
|{{MSP|529|Drilbur}}<br />
|{{p|Drilbur}}<br />
{{typetable2|Ground}}<br />
|-<br />
|096<br />
|{{MSP|096|Drowzee}}<br />
|{{p|Drowzee}}<br />
{{typetable2|Psychic}}<br />
|-<br />
|621<br />
|{{MSP|621|Druddigon}}<br />
|{{p|Druddigon}}<br />
{{typetable2|Dragon}}<br />
|-<br />
|580<br />
|{{MSP|580|Ducklett}}<br />
|{{p|Ducklett}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|051<br />
|{{MSP|051|Dugtrio}}<br />
|{{p|Dugtrio}}<br />
{{typetable2|Ground}}<br />
|-<br />
|206<br />
|{{MSP|206|Dunsparce}}<br />
|{{p|Dunsparce}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|578<br />
|{{MSP|578|Duosion}}<br />
|{{p|Duosion}}<br />
{{typetable2|Psychic}}<br />
|-<br />
|632<br />
|{{MSP|632|Durant}}<br />
|{{p|Durant}}<br />
{{typetable|Bug}}<br />
{{typetable|Steel}}<br />
|-<br />
|356<br />
|{{MSP|356|Dusclops}}<br />
|{{p|Dusclops}}<br />
{{typetable2|Ghost}}<br />
|-<br />
|477<br />
|{{MSP|477|Dusknoir}}<br />
|{{p|Dusknoir}}<br />
{{typetable2|Ghost}}<br />
|-<br />
|355<br />
|{{MSP|355|Duskull}}<br />
|{{p|Duskull}}<br />
{{typetable2|Ghost}}<br />
|-<br />
|269<br />
|{{MSP|269|Dustox}}<br />
|{{p|Dustox}}<br />
{{typetable|Bug}}<br />
{{typetable|Poison}}<br />
|-<br />
|557<br />
|{{MSP|557|Dwebble}}<br />
|{{p|Dwebble}}<br />
{{typetable|Bug}}<br />
{{typetable|Rock}}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
{{CompactTOC}}<br />
===E===<br />
{| {{Bluetable|background: white; margin: auto;}}<br />
|- style="background: #ccf;"<br />
! #<br />
! Icon<br />
! Name<br />
! colspan="2" | Type<br />
|-<br />
|603<br />
|{{MSP|603|Eelektrik}}<br />
|{{p|Eelektrik}}<br />
{{typetable2|Electric}}<br />
|-<br />
|604<br />
|{{MSP|604|Eelektross}}<br />
|{{p|Eelektross}}<br />
{{typetable2|Electric}}<br />
|-<br />
|133<br />
|{{MSP|133|Eevee}}<br />
|{{p|Eevee}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|023<br />
|{{MSP|023|Ekans}}<br />
|{{p|Ekans}}<br />
{{typetable2|Poison}}<br />
|-<br />
|125<br />
|{{MSP|125|Electabuzz}}<br />
|{{p|Electabuzz}}<br />
{{typetable2|Electric}}<br />
|-<br />
|466<br />
|{{MSP|466|Electivire}}<br />
|{{p|Electivire}}<br />
{{typetable2|Electric}}<br />
|-<br />
|309<br />
|{{MSP|309|Electrike}}<br />
|{{p|Electrike}}<br />
{{typetable2|Electric}}<br />
|-<br />
|101<br />
|{{MSP|101|Electrode}}<br />
|{{p|Electrode}}<br />
{{typetable2|Electric}}<br />
|-<br />
|239<br />
|{{MSP|239|Elekid}}<br />
|{{p|Elekid}}<br />
{{typetable2|Electric}}<br />
|-<br />
|605<br />
|{{MSP|605|Elgyem}}<br />
|{{p|Elgyem}}<br />
{{typetable2|Psychic}}<br />
|-<br />
|500<br />
|{{MSP|500|Emboar}}<br />
|{{p|Emboar}}<br />
{{typetable|Fire}}<br />
{{typetable|Fighting}}<br />
|-<br />
|587<br />
|{{MSP|587|Emolga}}<br />
|{{p|Emolga}}<br />
{{typetable|Electric}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|395<br />
|{{MSP|395|Empoleon}}<br />
|{{p|Empoleon}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
{{typetable|Steel}}<br />
|-<br />
|244<br />
||{{MSP|244|Entei}}<br />
|{{p|Entei}}<br />
{{typetable2|Fire}}<br />
|-<br />
|589<br />
|{{MSP|589|Escavalier}}<br />
|{{p|Escavalier}}<br />
{{typetable|Bug}}<br />
{{typetable|Steel}}<br />
|-<br />
|196<br />
|{{MSP|196|Espeon}}<br />
|{{p|Espeon}}<br />
{{typetable2|Psychic}}<br />
|-<br />
|530<br />
|{{MSP|530|Excadrill}}<br />
|{{p|Excadrill}}<br />
{{typetable|Ground}}<br />
{{typetable|Steel}}<br />
|-<br />
|102<br />
|{{MSP|102|Exeggcute}}<br />
|{{p|Exeggcute}}<br />
{{typetable|Grass}}<br />
{{typetable|Psychic}}<br />
|-<br />
|103<br />
|{{MSP|103|Exeggutor}}<br />
|{{p|Exeggutor}}<br />
{{typetable|Grass}}<br />
{{typetable|Psychic}}<br />
|-<br />
|295<br />
|{{MSP|295|Exploud}}<br />
|{{p|Exploud}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
<br />
{{CompactTOC}}<br />
===F===<br />
{| {{Bluetable|background: white; margin: auto;}}<br />
|- style="background: #ccf;"<br />
! #<br />
! Icon<br />
! Name<br />
! colspan="2" | Type<br />
|-<br />
|083<br />
|{{MSP|083|Farfetch'd}}<br />
|{{p|Farfetch'd}}<br />
{{typetable|Normal}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|022<br />
|{{MSP|022|Fearow}}<br />
|{{p|Fearow}}<br />
{{typetable|Normal}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|349<br />
|{{MSP|349|Feebas}}<br />
|{{p|Feebas}}<br />
{{typetable2|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|160<br />
|{{MSP|160|Feraligatr}}<br />
|{{p|Feraligatr}}<br />
{{typetable2|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|597<br />
|{{MSP|597|Ferroseed}}<br />
|{{p|Ferroseed}}<br />
{{typetable|Grass}}<br />
{{typetable|Steel}}<br />
|-<br />
|598<br />
|{{MSP|598|Ferrothorn}}<br />
|{{p|Ferrothorn}}<br />
{{typetable|Grass}}<br />
{{typetable|Steel}}<br />
|-<br />
|456<br />
|{{MSP|456|Finneon}}<br />
|{{p|Finneon}}<br />
{{typetable2|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|180<br />
|{{MSP|180|Flaaffy}}<br />
|{{p|Flaaffy}}<br />
{{typetable2|Electric}}<br />
|-<br />
|136<br />
|{{MSP|136|Flareon}}<br />
|{{p|Flareon}}<br />
{{typetable2|Fire}}<br />
|-<br />
|419<br />
|{{MSP|419|Floatzel}}<br />
|{{p|Floatzel}}<br />
{{typetable2|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|330<br />
|{{MSP|330|Flygon}}<br />
|{{p|Flygon}}<br />
{{typetable|Ground}}<br />
{{typetable|Dragon}}<br />
|-<br />
|590<br />
|{{MSP|590|Foongus}}<br />
|{{p|Foongus}}<br />
{{typetable|Grass}}<br />
{{typetable|Poison}}<br />
|-<br />
|205<br />
|{{MSP|205|Forretress}}<br />
|{{p|Forretress}}<br />
{{typetable|Bug}}<br />
{{typetable|Steel}}<br />
|-<br />
|611<br />
|{{MSP|611|Fraxure}}<br />
|{{p|Fraxure}}<br />
{{typetable2|Dragon}}<br />
|-<br />
|592<br />
|{{MSP|592|Frillish}}<br />
|{{p|Frillish}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
{{typetable|Ghost}}<br />
|-<br />
|478<br />
|{{MSP|478|Froslass}}<br />
|{{p|Froslass}}<br />
{{typetable|Ice}}<br />
{{typetable|Ghost}}<br />
|-<br />
|162<br />
|{{MSP|162|Furret}}<br />
|{{p|Furret}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
{{CompactTOC}}<br />
<br />
===G===<br />
{| {{Bluetable|background: white; margin: auto;}}<br />
|- style="background: #ccf;"<br />
! #<br />
! Icon<br />
! Name<br />
! colspan="2" | Type<br />
|-<br />
|444<br />
|{{MSP|444|Gabite}}<br />
|{{p|Gabite}}<br />
{{typetable|Dragon}}<br />
{{typetable|Ground}}<br />
|-<br />
|475<br />
|{{MSP|475|Gallade}}<br />
|{{p|Gallade}}<br />
{{typetable|Psychic}}<br />
{{typetable|Fighting}}<br />
|-<br />
|596<br />
|{{MSP|596|Galvantula}}<br />
|{{p|Galvantula}}<br />
{{typetable|Bug}}<br />
{{typetable|Electric}}<br />
|-<br />
|569<br />
|{{MSP|569|Garbodor}}<br />
|{{p|Garbodor}}<br />
{{typetable2|Poison}}<br />
|-<br />
|445<br />
|{{MSP|445|Garchomp}}<br />
|{{p|Garchomp}}<br />
{{typetable|Dragon}}<br />
{{typetable|Ground}}<br />
|-<br />
|282<br />
|{{MSP|282|Gardevoir}}<br />
|{{p|Gardevoir}}<br />
{{typetable2|Psychic}}<br />
|-<br />
|092<br />
|{{MSP|092|Gastly}}<br />
|{{p|Gastly}}<br />
{{typetable|Ghost}}<br />
{{typetable|Poison}}<br />
|-<br />
|423<br />
|{{MSP|423|Gastrodon}}<br />
|{{p|Gastrodon}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
{{typetable|Ground}}<br />
|-<br />
|649<br />
|{{MSP|649|Genesect}}<br />
|{{p|Genesect}}<br />
{{typetable|Bug}}<br />
{{typetable|Steel}}<br />
|-<br />
|094<br />
|{{MSP|094|Gengar}}<br />
|{{p|Gengar}}<br />
{{typetable|Ghost}}<br />
{{typetable|Poison}}<br />
|-<br />
|074<br />
|{{MSP|074|Geodude}}<br />
|{{p|Geodude}}<br />
{{typetable|Rock}}<br />
{{typetable|Ground}}<br />
|-<br />
|443<br />
|{{MSP|443|Gible}}<br />
|{{p|Gible}}<br />
{{typetable|Dragon}}<br />
{{typetable|Ground}}<br />
|-<br />
|526<br />
|{{MSP|526|Gigalith}}<br />
|{{p|Gigalith}}<br />
{{typetable2|Rock}}<br />
|-<br />
|203<br />
|{{MSP|203|Girafarig}}<br />
|{{p|Girafarig}}<br />
{{typetable|Normal}}<br />
{{typetable|Psychic}}<br />
|-<br />
|487<br />
|{{MSP|487|Giratina}}<br />
|{{p|Giratina}}<br />
{{typetable|Ghost}}<br />
{{typetable|Dragon}}<br />
|-<br />
|471<br />
|{{MSP|471|Glaceon}}<br />
|{{p|Glaceon}}<br />
{{typetable2|Ice}}<br />
|-<br />
|362<br />
|{{MSP|362|Glalie}}<br />
|{{p|Glalie}}<br />
{{typetable2|Ice}}<br />
|-<br />
|431<br />
|{{MSP|431|Glameow}}<br />
|{{p|Glameow}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|207<br />
|{{MSP|207|Gligar}}<br />
|{{p|Gligar}}<br />
{{typetable|Ground}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|472<br />
|{{MSP|472|Gliscor}}<br />
|{{p|Gliscor}}<br />
{{typetable|Ground}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|044<br />
|{{MSP|044|Gloom}}<br />
|{{p|Gloom}}<br />
{{typetable|Grass}}<br />
{{typetable|Poison}}<br />
|-<br />
|042<br />
|{{MSP|042|Golbat}}<br />
|{{p|Golbat}}<br />
{{typetable|Poison}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|118<br />
|{{MSP|118|Goldeen}}<br />
|{{p|Goldeen}}<br />
{{typetable2|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|055<br />
|{{MSP|055|Golduck}}<br />
|{{p|Golduck}}<br />
{{typetable2|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|076<br />
|{{MSP|076|Golem}}<br />
|{{p|Golem}}<br />
{{typetable|Rock}}<br />
{{typetable|Ground}}<br />
|-<br />
|622<br />
|{{MSP|622|Golett}}<br />
|{{p|Golett}}<br />
{{typetable|Ground}}<br />
{{typetable|Ghost}}<br />
|-<br />
|623<br />
|{{MSP|623|Golurk}}<br />
|{{p|Golurk}}<br />
{{typetable|Ground}}<br />
{{typetable|Ghost}}<br />
|-<br />
|368<br />
|{{MSP|368|Gorebyss}}<br />
|{{p|Gorebyss}}<br />
{{typetable2|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|574<br />
|{{MSP|574|Gothita}}<br />
|{{p|Gothita}}<br />
{{typetable2|Psychic}}<br />
|-<br />
|576<br />
|{{MSP|576|Gothitelle}}<br />
|{{p|Gothitelle}}<br />
{{typetable2|Psychic}}<br />
|-<br />
|575<br />
|{{MSP|575|Gothorita}}<br />
|{{p|Gothorita}}<br />
{{typetable2|Psychic}}<br />
|-<br />
|210<br />
|{{MSP|210|Granbull}}<br />
|{{p|Granbull}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|075<br />
|{{MSP|075|Graveler}}<br />
|{{p|Graveler}}<br />
{{typetable|Rock}}<br />
{{typetable|Ground}}<br />
|-<br />
|088<br />
|{{MSP|088|Grimer}}<br />
|{{p|Grimer}}<br />
{{typetable2|Poison}}<br />
|-<br />
|388<br />
|{{MSP|388|Grotle}}<br />
|{{p|Grotle}}<br />
{{typetable2|Grass}}<br />
|-<br />
|383<br />
|{{MSP|383|Groudon}}<br />
|{{p|Groudon}}<br />
{{typetable2|Ground}}<br />
|-<br />
|253<br />
|{{MSP|253|Grovyle}}<br />
|{{p|Grovyle}}<br />
{{typetable2|Grass}}<br />
|-<br />
|058<br />
|{{MSP|058|Growlithe}}<br />
|{{p|Growlithe}}<br />
{{typetable2|Fire}}<br />
|-<br />
|326<br />
|{{MSP|326|Grumpig}}<br />
|{{p|Grumpig}}<br />
{{typetable2|Psychic}}<br />
|-<br />
|316<br />
|{{MSP|316|Gulpin}}<br />
|{{p|Gulpin}}<br />
{{typetable2|Poison}}<br />
|-<br />
|533<br />
|{{MSP|533|Gurdurr}}<br />
|{{p|Gurdurr}}<br />
{{typetable2|Fighting}}<br />
|-<br />
|130<br />
|{{MSP|130|Gyarados}}<br />
|{{p|Gyarados}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|}<br />
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===H===<br />
{| {{Bluetable|background: white; margin: auto;}}<br />
|- style="background: #ccf;"<br />
! #<br />
! Icon<br />
! Name<br />
! colspan="2" | Type<br />
|-<br />
|440<br />
|{{MSP|440|Happiny}}<br />
|{{p|Happiny}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|297<br />
|{{MSP|297|Hariyama}}<br />
|{{p|Hariyama}}<br />
{{typetable2|Fighting}}<br />
|-<br />
|093<br />
|{{MSP|093|Haunter}}<br />
|{{p|Haunter}}<br />
{{typetable|Ghost}}<br />
{{typetable|Poison}}<br />
|-<br />
|612<br />
|{{MSP|612|Haxorus}}<br />
|{{p|Haxorus}}<br />
{{typetable2|Dragon}}<br />
|-<br />
|631<br />
|{{MSP|631|Heatmor}}<br />
|{{p|Heatmor}}<br />
{{typetable2|Fire}}<br />
|-<br />
|485<br />
|{{MSP|485|Heatran}}<br />
|{{p|Heatran}}<br />
{{typetable|Fire}}<br />
{{typetable|Steel}}<br />
|-<br />
|214<br />
|{{MSP|214|Heracross}}<br />
|{{p|Heracross}}<br />
{{typetable|Bug}}<br />
{{typetable|Fighting}}<br />
|-<br />
|507<br />
|{{MSP|506|Herdier}}<br />
|{{p|Herdier}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|449<br />
|{{MSP|449|Hippopotas}}<br />
|{{p|Hippopotas}}<br />
{{typetable2|Ground}}<br />
|-<br />
|450<br />
|{{MSP|450|Hippowdon}}<br />
|{{p|Hippowdon}}<br />
{{typetable2|Ground}}<br />
|-<br />
|107<br />
|{{MSP|107|Hitmonchan}}<br />
|{{p|Hitmonchan}}<br />
{{typetable2|Fighting}}<br />
|-<br />
|106<br />
|{{MSP|106|Hitmonlee}}<br />
|{{p|Hitmonlee}}<br />
{{typetable2|Fighting}}<br />
|-<br />
|237<br />
|{{MSP|237|Hitmontop}}<br />
|{{p|Hitmontop}}<br />
{{typetable2|Fighting}}<br />
|-<br />
|250<br />
|{{MSP|250|Ho-Oh}}<br />
|{{p|Ho-Oh}}<br />
{{typetable|Fire}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|430<br />
|{{MSP|430|Honchkrow}}<br />
|{{p|Honchkrow}}<br />
{{typetable|Dark}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|163<br />
|{{MSP|163|Hoothoot}}<br />
|{{p|Hoothoot}}<br />
{{typetable|Normal}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|187<br />
|{{MSP|187|Hoppip}}<br />
|{{p|Hoppip}}<br />
{{typetable|Grass}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|116<br />
|{{MSP|116|Horsea}}<br />
|{{p|Horsea}}<br />
{{typetable2|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|229<br />
|{{MSP|229|Houndoom}}<br />
|{{p|Houndoom}}<br />
{{typetable|Dark}}<br />
{{typetable|Fire}}<br />
|-<br />
|228<br />
|{{MSP|228|Houndour}}<br />
|{{p|Houndour}}<br />
{{typetable|Dark}}<br />
{{typetable|Fire}}<br />
|-<br />
|367<br />
|{{MSP|367|Huntail}}<br />
|{{p|Huntail}}<br />
{{typetable2|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|635<br />
|{{MSP|635|Hydreigon}}<br />
|{{p|Hydreigon}}<br />
{{typetable|Dark}}<br />
{{typetable|Dragon}}<br />
|-<br />
|097<br />
|{{MSP|097|Hypno}}<br />
|{{p|Hypno}}<br />
{{typetable2|Psychic}}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
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<br />
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===I===<br />
{| {{Bluetable|background: white; margin: auto;}}<br />
|- style="background: #ccf;"<br />
! #<br />
! Icon<br />
! Name<br />
! colspan="2" | Type<br />
|-<br />
|174<br />
|{{MSP|174|Igglybuff}}<br />
|{{p|Igglybuff}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|314<br />
|{{MSP|314|Illumise}}<br />
|{{p|Illumise}}<br />
{{typetable2|Bug}}<br />
|-<br />
|392<br />
|{{MSP|392|Infernape}}<br />
|{{p|Infernape}}<br />
{{typetable|Fire}}<br />
{{typetable|Fighting}}<br />
|-<br />
|002<br />
|{{MSP|002|Ivysaur}}<br />
|{{p|Ivysaur}}<br />
{{typetable|Grass}}<br />
{{typetable|Poison}}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
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{{CompactTOC}}<br />
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===J===<br />
{| {{Bluetable|background: white; margin: auto;}}<br />
|- style="background: #ccf;"<br />
! #<br />
! Icon<br />
! Name<br />
! colspan="2" | Type<br />
|-<br />
|593<br />
|{{MSP|593|Jellicent}}<br />
|{{p|Jellicent}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
{{typetable|Ghost}}<br />
|-<br />
|039<br />
|{{MSP|039|Jigglypuff}}<br />
|{{p|Jigglypuff}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|385<br />
|{{MSP|385|Jirachi}}<br />
|{{p|Jirachi}}<br />
{{typetable|Steel}}<br />
{{typetable|Psychic}}<br />
|-<br />
|135<br />
|{{MSP|135|Jolteon}}<br />
|{{p|Jolteon}}<br />
{{typetable2|Electric}}<br />
|-<br />
|595<br />
|{{MSP|595|Joltik}}<br />
|{{p|Joltik}}<br />
{{typetable|Bug}}<br />
{{typetable|Electric}}<br />
|-<br />
|189<br />
|{{MSP|189|Jumpluff}}<br />
|{{p|Jumpluff}}<br />
{{typetable|Grass}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|124<br />
|{{MSP|124|Jynx}}<br />
|{{p|Jynx}}<br />
{{typetable|Ice}}<br />
{{typetable|Psychic}}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
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{{CompactTOC}}<br />
===K===<br />
{| {{Bluetable|background: white; margin: auto;}}<br />
|- style="background: #ccf;"<br />
! #<br />
! Icon<br />
! Name<br />
! colspan="2" | Type<br />
|-<br />
|140<br />
|{{MSP|140|Kabuto}}<br />
|{{p|Kabuto}}<br />
{{typetable|Rock}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|141<br />
|{{MSP|141|Kabutops}}<br />
|{{p|Kabutops}}<br />
{{typetable|Rock}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|064<br />
|{{MSP|064|Kadabra}}<br />
|{{p|Kadabra}}<br />
{{typetable2|Psychic}}<br />
|-<br />
|014<br />
|{{MSP|014|Kakuna}}<br />
|{{p|Kakuna}}<br />
{{typetable|Bug}}<br />
{{typetable|Poison}}<br />
|-<br />
|115<br />
|{{MSP|115|Kangaskhan}}<br />
|{{p|Kangaskhan}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|588<br />
|{{MSP|588|Karrablast}}<br />
|{{p|Karrablast}}<br />
{{typetable2|Bug}}<br />
|-<br />
|352<br />
|{{MSP|352|Kecleon}}<br />
|{{p|Kecleon}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|647<br />
|{{MSP|647|Keldeo}}<br />
|{{p|Keldeo}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
{{typetable|Fighting}}<br />
|-<br />
|230<br />
|{{MSP|230|Kingdra}}<br />
|{{p|Kingdra}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
{{typetable|Dragon}}<br />
|-<br />
|099<br />
|{{MSP|099|Kingler}}<br />
|{{p|Kingler}}<br />
{{typetable2|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|281<br />
|{{MSP|281|Kirlia}}<br />
|{{p|Kirlia}}<br />
{{typetable2|Psychic}}<br />
|-<br />
|600<br />
|{{MSP|600|Klang}}<br />
|{{p|Klang}}<br />
{{typetable2|Steel}}<br />
|-<br />
|599<br />
|{{MSP|599|Klink}}<br />
|{{p|Klink}}<br />
{{typetable2|Steel}}<br />
|-<br />
|601<br />
|{{MSP|601|Klinklang}}<br />
|{{p|Klinklang}}<br />
{{typetable2|Steel}}<br />
|-<br />
|109<br />
|{{MSP|109|Koffing}}<br />
|{{p|Koffing}}<br />
{{typetable2|Poison}}<br />
|-<br />
|098<br />
|{{MSP|098|Krabby}}<br />
|{{p|Krabby}}<br />
{{typetable2|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|401<br />
|{{MSP|401|Kricketot}}<br />
|{{p|Kricketot}}<br />
{{typetable2|Bug}}<br />
|-<br />
|402<br />
|{{MSP|402|Kricketune}}<br />
|{{p|Kricketune}}<br />
{{typetable2|Bug}}<br />
|-<br />
|552<br />
|{{MSP|552|Krokorok}}<br />
|{{p|Krokorok}}<br />
{{typetable|Ground}}<br />
{{typetable|Dark}}<br />
|-<br />
|553<br />
|{{MSP|553|Krookodile}}<br />
|{{p|Krookodile}}<br />
{{typetable|Ground}}<br />
{{typetable|Dark}}<br />
|-<br />
|382<br />
|{{MSP|382|Kyogre}}<br />
|{{p|Kyogre}}<br />
{{typetable2|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|646<br />
|{{MSP|646|Kyurem}}<br />
|{{p|Kyurem}}<br />
{{typetable|Dragon}}<br />
{{typetable|Ice}}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
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{{CompactTOC}}<br />
===L===<br />
{| {{Bluetable|background: white; margin: auto;}}<br />
|- style="background: #ccf;"<br />
! #<br />
! Icon<br />
! Name<br />
! colspan="2" | Type<br />
|-<br />
|305<br />
|{{MSP|305|Lairon}}<br />
|{{p|Lairon}}<br />
{{typetable|Steel}}<br />
{{typetable|Rock}}<br />
|-<br />
|608<br />
|{{MSP|608|Lampent}}<br />
|{{p|Lampent}}<br />
{{typetable|Ghost}}<br />
{{typetable|Fire}}<br />
|-<br />
|645<br />
|{{MSP|645|Landorus}}<br />
|{{p|Landorus}}<br />
{{typetable|Ground}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|171<br />
|{{MSP|171|Lanturn}}<br />
|{{p|Lanturn}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
{{typetable|Electric}}<br />
|-<br />
|131<br />
|{{MSP|131|Lapras}}<br />
|{{p|Lapras}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
{{typetable|Ice}}<br />
|-<br />
|636<br />
|{{MSP|636|Larvesta}}<br />
|{{p|Larvesta}}<br />
{{typetable|Bug}}<br />
{{typetable|Fire}}<br />
|-<br />
|246<br />
|{{MSP|246|Larvitar}}<br />
|{{p|Larvitar}}<br />
{{typetable|Rock}}<br />
{{typetable|Ground}}<br />
|-<br />
|380<br />
|{{MSP|380|Latias}}<br />
|{{p|Latias}}<br />
{{typetable|Dragon}}<br />
{{typetable|Psychic}}<br />
|-<br />
|381<br />
|{{MSP|381|Latios}}<br />
|{{p|Latios}}<br />
{{typetable|Dragon}}<br />
{{typetable|Psychic}}<br />
|-<br />
|470<br />
|{{MSP|470|Leafeon}}<br />
|{{p|Leafeon}}<br />
{{typetable2|Grass}}<br />
|-<br />
|542<br />
|{{MSP|542|Leavanny}}<br />
|{{p|Leavanny}}<br />
{{typetable|Bug}}<br />
{{typetable|Grass}}<br />
|-<br />
|166<br />
|{{MSP|166|Ledian}}<br />
|{{p|Ledian}}<br />
{{typetable|Bug}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|165<br />
|{{MSP|165|Ledyba}}<br />
|{{p|Ledyba}}<br />
{{typetable|Bug}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|463<br />
|{{MSP|463|Lickilicky}}<br />
|{{p|Lickilicky}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|108<br />
|{{MSP|108|Lickitung}}<br />
|{{p|Lickitung}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|510<br />
|{{MSP|510|Liepard}}<br />
|{{p|Liepard}}<br />
{{typetable2|Dark}}<br />
|-<br />
|345<br />
|{{MSP|345|Lileep}}<br />
|{{p|Lileep}}<br />
{{typetable|Rock}}<br />
{{typetable|Grass}}<br />
|-<br />
|549<br />
|{{MSP|549|Lilligant}}<br />
|{{p|Lilligant}}<br />
{{typetable2|Grass}}<br />
|-<br />
|506<br />
|{{MSP|506|Lillipup}}<br />
|{{p|Lillipup}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|264<br />
|{{MSP|264|Linoone}}<br />
|{{p|Linoone}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|607<br />
|{{MSP|607|Litwick}}<br />
|{{p|Litwick}}<br />
{{typetable|Ghost}}<br />
{{typetable|Fire}}<br />
|-<br />
|271<br />
|{{MSP|271|Lombre}}<br />
|{{p|Lombre}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
{{typetable|Grass}}<br />
|-<br />
|428<br />
|{{MSP|428|Lopunny}}<br />
|{{p|Lopunny}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|270<br />
|{{MSP|270|Lotad}}<br />
|{{p|Lotad}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
{{typetable|Grass}}<br />
|-<br />
|294<br />
|{{MSP|294|Loudred}}<br />
|{{p|Loudred}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|448<br />
|{{MSP|448|Lucario}}<br />
|{{p|Lucario}}<br />
{{typetable|Fighting}}<br />
{{typetable|Steel}}<br />
|-<br />
|272<br />
|{{MSP|272|Ludicolo}}<br />
|{{p|Ludicolo}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
{{typetable|Grass}}<br />
|-<br />
|249<br />
|{{MSP|249|Lugia}}<br />
|{{p|Lugia}}<br />
{{typetable|Psychic}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|457<br />
|{{MSP|457|Lumineon}}<br />
|{{p|Lumineon}}<br />
{{typetable2|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|337<br />
|{{MSP|337|Lunatone}}<br />
|{{p|Lunatone}}<br />
{{typetable|Rock}}<br />
{{typetable|Psychic}}<br />
|-<br />
|370<br />
|{{MSP|370|Luvdisc}}<br />
|{{p|Luvdisc}}<br />
{{typetable2|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|404<br />
|{{MSP|404|Luxio}}<br />
|{{p|Luxio}}<br />
{{typetable2|Electric}}<br />
|-<br />
|405<br />
|{{MSP|405|Luxray}}<br />
|{{p|Luxray}}<br />
{{typetable2|Electric}}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
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{| {{Bluetable|background: white; margin: auto;}}<br />
|- style="background: #ccf;"<br />
! #<br />
! Icon<br />
! Name<br />
! colspan="2" | Type<br />
|-<br />
|068<br />
|{{MSP|068|Machamp}}<br />
|{{p|Machamp}}<br />
{{typetable2|Fighting}}<br />
|-<br />
|067<br />
|{{MSP|067|Machoke}}<br />
|{{p|Machoke}}<br />
{{typetable2|Fighting}}<br />
|-<br />
|066<br />
|{{MSP|066|Machop}}<br />
|{{p|Machop}}<br />
{{typetable2|Fighting}}<br />
|-<br />
|240<br />
|{{MSP|240|Magby}}<br />
|{{p|Magby}}<br />
{{typetable2|Fire}}<br />
|-<br />
|219<br />
|{{MSP|219|Magcargo}}<br />
|{{p|Magcargo}}<br />
{{typetable|Fire}}<br />
{{typetable|Rock}}<br />
|-<br />
|129<br />
|{{MSP|129|Magikarp}}<br />
|{{p|Magikarp}}<br />
{{typetable2|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|126<br />
|{{MSP|126|Magmar}}<br />
|{{p|Magmar}}<br />
{{typetable2|Fire}}<br />
|-<br />
|467<br />
|{{MSP|467|Magmortar}}<br />
|{{p|Magmortar}}<br />
{{typetable2|Fire}}<br />
|-<br />
|081<br />
|{{MSP|081|Magnemite}}<br />
|{{p|Magnemite}}<br />
{{typetable|Electric}}<br />
{{typetable|Steel}}<br />
|-<br />
|082<br />
|{{MSP|082|Magneton}}<br />
|{{p|Magneton}}<br />
{{typetable|Electric}}<br />
{{typetable|Steel}}<br />
|-<br />
|462<br />
|{{MSP|462|Magnezone}}<br />
|{{p|Magnezone}}<br />
{{typetable|Electric}}<br />
{{typetable|Steel}}<br />
|-<br />
|296<br />
|{{MSP|296|Makuhita}}<br />
|{{p|Makuhita}}<br />
{{typetable2|Fighting}}<br />
|-<br />
|473<br />
|{{MSP|473|Mamoswine}}<br />
|{{p|Mamoswine}}<br />
{{typetable|Ice}}<br />
{{typetable|Ground}}<br />
|-<br />
|490<br />
|{{MSP|490|Manaphy}}<br />
|{{p|Manaphy}}<br />
{{typetable2|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|630<br />
|{{MSP|630|Mandibuzz}}<br />
|{{p|Mandibuzz}}<br />
{{typetable|Dark}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|310<br />
|{{MSP|310|Manectric}}<br />
|{{p|Manectric}}<br />
{{typetable2|Electric}}<br />
|-<br />
|056<br />
|{{MSP|056|Mankey}}<br />
|{{p|Mankey}}<br />
{{typetable2|Fighting}}<br />
|-<br />
|226<br />
|{{MSP|226|Mantine}}<br />
|{{p|Mantine}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|458<br />
|{{MSP|458|Mantyke}}<br />
|{{p|Mantyke}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|556<br />
|{{MSP|556|Maractus}}<br />
|{{p|Maractus}}<br />
{{typetable2|Grass}}<br />
|-<br />
|179<br />
|{{MSP|179|Mareep}}<br />
|{{p|Mareep}}<br />
{{typetable2|Electric}}<br />
|-<br />
|183<br />
|{{MSP|183|Marill}}<br />
|{{p|Marill}}<br />
{{typetable2|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|105<br />
|{{MSP|105|Marowak}}<br />
|{{p|Marowak}}<br />
{{typetable2|Ground}}<br />
|-<br />
|259<br />
|{{MSP|259|Marshtomp}}<br />
|{{p|Marshtomp}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
{{typetable|Ground}}<br />
|-<br />
|284<br />
|{{MSP|284|Masquerain}}<br />
|{{p|Masquerain}}<br />
{{typetable|Bug}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|303<br />
|{{MSP|303|Mawile}}<br />
|{{p|Mawile}}<br />
{{typetable2|Steel}}<br />
|-<br />
|308<br />
|{{MSP|308|Medicham}}<br />
|{{p|Medicham}}<br />
{{typetable|Fighting}}<br />
{{typetable|Psychic}}<br />
|-<br />
|307<br />
|{{MSP|307|Meditite}}<br />
|{{p|Meditite}}<br />
{{typetable|Fighting}}<br />
{{typetable|Psychic}}<br />
|-<br />
|154<br />
|{{MSP|154|Meganium}}<br />
|{{p|Meganium}}<br />
{{typetable2|Grass}}<br />
|-<br />
|648<br />
|{{MSP|648|Meloetta}}<br />
|{{p|Meloetta}}<br />
{{typetable|Normal}}<br />
{{typetable|Psychic}}<br />
|-<br />
|052<br />
|{{MSP|052|Meowth}}<br />
|{{p|Meowth}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|481<br />
|{{MSP|481|Mesprit}}<br />
|{{p|Mesprit}}<br />
{{typetable2|Psychic}}<br />
|-<br />
|376<br />
|{{MSP|376|Metagross}}<br />
|{{p|Metagross}}<br />
{{typetable|Steel}}<br />
{{typetable|Psychic}}<br />
|-<br />
|375<br />
|{{MSP|375|Metang}}<br />
|{{p|Metang}}<br />
{{typetable|Steel}}<br />
{{typetable|Psychic}}<br />
|-<br />
|011<br />
|{{MSP|011|Metapod}}<br />
|{{p|Metapod}}<br />
{{typetable2|Bug}}<br />
|-<br />
|151<br />
|{{MSP|151|Mew}}<br />
|{{p|Mew}}<br />
{{typetable2|Psychic}}<br />
|-<br />
|150<br />
|{{MSP|150|Mewtwo}}<br />
|{{p|Mewtwo}}<br />
{{typetable2|Psychic}}<br />
|-<br />
|619<br />
|{{MSP|619|Mienfoo}}<br />
|{{p|Mienfoo}}<br />
{{typetable2|Fighting}}<br />
|-<br />
|620<br />
|{{MSP|620|Mienshao}}<br />
|{{p|Mienshao}}<br />
{{typetable2|Fighting}}<br />
|-<br />
|262<br />
|{{MSP|262|Mightyena}}<br />
|{{p|Mightyena}}<br />
{{typetable2|Dark}}<br />
|-<br />
|350<br />
|{{MSP|350|Milotic}}<br />
|{{p|Milotic}}<br />
{{typetable2|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|241<br />
|{{MSP|241|Miltank}}<br />
|{{p|Miltank}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|439<br />
|{{MSP|439|Mime Jr.}}<br />
|{{p|Mime Jr.}}<br />
{{typetable2|Psychic}}<br />
|-<br />
|572<br />
|{{MSP|572|Minccino}}<br />
|{{p|Minccino}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|312<br />
|{{MSP|312|Minun}}<br />
|{{p|Minun}}<br />
{{typetable2|Electric}}<br />
|-<br />
|200<br />
|{{MSP|200|Misdreavus}}<br />
|{{p|Misdreavus}}<br />
{{typetable2|Ghost}}<br />
|-<br />
|429<br />
|{{MSP|429|Mismagius}}<br />
|{{p|Mismagius}}<br />
{{typetable2|Ghost}}<br />
|-<br />
|146<br />
|{{MSP|146|Moltres}}<br />
|{{p|Moltres}}<br />
{{typetable|Fire}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|391<br />
|{{MSP|391|Monferno}}<br />
|{{p|Monferno}}<br />
{{typetable|Fire}}<br />
{{typetable|Fighting}}<br />
|-<br />
|414<br />
|{{MSP|414|Mothim}}<br />
|{{p|Mothim}}<br />
{{typetable|Bug}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|122<br />
|{{MSP|122|Mr. Mime}}<br />
|{{p|Mr. Mime}}<br />
{{typetable2|Psychic}}<br />
|-<br />
|258<br />
|{{MSP|258|Mudkip}}<br />
|{{p|Mudkip}}<br />
{{typetable2|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|089<br />
|{{MSP|089|Muk}}<br />
|{{p|Muk}}<br />
{{typetable2|Poison}}<br />
|-<br />
|446<br />
|{{MSP|446|Munchlax}}<br />
|{{p|Munchlax}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|517<br />
|{{MSP|517|Munna}}<br />
|{{p|Munna}}<br />
{{typetable2|Psychic}}<br />
|-<br />
|198<br />
|{{MSP|198|Murkrow}}<br />
|{{p|Murkrow}}<br />
{{typetable|Dark}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|518<br />
|{{MSP|518|Musharna}}<br />
|{{p|Musharna}}<br />
{{typetable2|Psychic}}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
<br />
{{CompactTOC}}<br />
<br />
===N===<br />
{| {{Bluetable|background: white; margin: auto;}}<br />
|- style="background: #ccf;"<br />
! #<br />
! Icon<br />
! Name<br />
! colspan="2" | Type<br />
|-<br />
|177<br />
|{{MSP|177|Natu}}<br />
|{{p|Natu}}<br />
{{typetable|Psychic}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|034<br />
|{{MSP|034|Nidoking}}<br />
|{{p|Nidoking}}<br />
{{typetable|Poison}}<br />
{{typetable|Ground}}<br />
|-<br />
|031<br />
|{{MSP|031|Nidoqueen}}<br />
|{{p|Nidoqueen}}<br />
{{typetable|Poison}}<br />
{{typetable|Ground}}<br />
|-<br />
|029<br />
|{{MSP|029|Nidoran♀}}<br />
|{{p|Nidoran♀}}<br />
{{typetable2|Poison}}<br />
|-<br />
|032<br />
|{{MSP|032|Nidoran♂}}<br />
|{{p|Nidoran♂}}<br />
{{typetable2|Poison}}<br />
|-<br />
|030<br />
|{{MSP|030|Nidorina}}<br />
|{{p|Nidorina}}<br />
{{typetable2|Poison}}<br />
|-<br />
|033<br />
|{{MSP|033|Nidorino}}<br />
|{{p|Nidorino}}<br />
{{typetable2|Poison}}<br />
|-<br />
|290<br />
|{{MSP|290|Nincada}}<br />
|{{p|Nincada}}<br />
{{typetable|Bug}}<br />
{{typetable|Ground}}<br />
|-<br />
|038<br />
|{{MSP|038|Ninetales}}<br />
|{{p|Ninetales}}<br />
{{typetable2|Fire}}<br />
|-<br />
|291<br />
|{{MSP|291|Ninjask}}<br />
|{{p|Ninjask}}<br />
{{typetable|Bug}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|164<br />
|{{MSP|164|Noctowl}}<br />
|{{p|Noctowl}}<br />
{{typetable|Normal}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|299<br />
|{{MSP|299|Nosepass}}<br />
|{{p|Nosepass}}<br />
{{typetable2|Rock}}<br />
|-<br />
|322<br />
|{{MSP|322|Numel}}<br />
|{{p|Numel}}<br />
{{typetable|Fire}}<br />
{{typetable|Ground}}<br />
|-<br />
|274<br />
|{{MSP|274|Nuzleaf}}<br />
|{{p|Nuzleaf}}<br />
{{typetable|Grass}}<br />
{{typetable|Dark}}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
{{CompactTOC}}<br />
===O===<br />
{| {{Bluetable|background: white; margin: auto;}}<br />
|- style="background: #ccf;"<br />
! #<br />
! Icon<br />
! Name<br />
! colspan="2" | Type<br />
|-<br />
|224<br />
|{{MSP|224|Octillery}}<br />
|{{p|Octillery}}<br />
{{typetable2|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|043<br />
|{{MSP|043|Oddish}}<br />
|{{p|Oddish}}<br />
{{typetable|Grass}}<br />
{{typetable|Poison}}<br />
|-<br />
|138<br />
|{{MSP|138|Omanyte}}<br />
|{{p|Omanyte}}<br />
{{typetable|Rock}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|139<br />
|{{MSP|139|Omastar}}<br />
|{{p|Omastar}}<br />
{{typetable|Rock}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|095<br />
|{{MSP|095|Onix}}<br />
|{{p|Onix}}<br />
{{typetable|Rock}}<br />
{{typetable|Ground}}<br />
|-<br />
|501<br />
|{{MSP|501|Oshawott}}<br />
|{{p|Oshawott}}<br />
{{typetable2|Water}}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
{{CompactTOC}}<br />
<br />
===P===<br />
{| {{Bluetable|background: white; margin: auto;}}<br />
|- style="background: #ccf;"<br />
! #<br />
! Icon<br />
! Name<br />
! colspan="2" | Type<br />
|-<br />
|417<br />
|{{MSP|417|Pachirisu}}<br />
|{{p|Pachirisu}}<br />
{{typetable2|Electric}}<br />
|-<br />
|484<br />
|{{MSP|484|Palkia}}<br />
|{{p|Palkia}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
{{typetable|Dragon}}<br />
|-<br />
|536<br />
|{{MSP|536|Palpitoad}}<br />
|{{p|Palpitoad}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
{{typetable|Ground}}<br />
|-<br />
|515<br />
|{{MSP|515|Panpour}}<br />
|{{p|Panpour}}<br />
{{typetable2|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|511<br />
|{{MSP|511|Pansage}}<br />
|{{p|Pansage}}<br />
{{typetable2|Grass}}<br />
|-<br />
|513<br />
|{{MSP|513|Pansear}}<br />
|{{p|Pansear}}<br />
{{typetable2|Fire}}<br />
|-<br />
|046<br />
|{{MSP|046|Paras}}<br />
|{{p|Paras}}<br />
{{typetable|Bug}}<br />
{{typetable|Grass}}<br />
|-<br />
|047<br />
|{{MSP|047|Parasect}}<br />
|{{p|Parasect}}<br />
{{typetable|Bug}}<br />
{{typetable|Grass}}<br />
|-<br />
|504<br />
|{{MSP|504|Patrat}}<br />
|{{p|Patrat}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|624<br />
|{{MSP|624|Pawniard}}<br />
|{{p|Pawniard}}<br />
{{typetable|Dark}}<br />
{{typetable|Steel}}<br />
|-<br />
|279<br />
|{{MSP|279|Pelipper}}<br />
|{{p|Pelipper}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|053<br />
|{{MSP|053|Persian}}<br />
|{{p|Persian}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|548<br />
|{{MSP|548|Petilil}}<br />
|{{p|Petilil}}<br />
{{typetable2|Grass}}<br />
|-<br />
|231<br />
|{{MSP|231|Phanpy}}<br />
|{{p|Phanpy}}<br />
{{typetable2|Ground}}<br />
|-<br />
|489<br />
|{{MSP|489|Phione}}<br />
|{{p|Phione}}<br />
{{typetable2|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|172<br />
|{{MSP|172|Pichu}}<br />
|{{p|Pichu}}<br />
{{typetable2|Electric}}<br />
|-<br />
|018<br />
|{{MSP|018|Pidgeot}}<br />
|{{p|Pidgeot}}<br />
{{typetable|Normal}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|017<br />
|{{MSP|017|Pidgeotto}}<br />
|{{p|Pidgeotto}}<br />
{{typetable|Normal}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|016<br />
|{{MSP|016|Pidgey}}<br />
|{{p|Pidgey}}<br />
{{typetable|Normal}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|519<br />
|{{MSP|519|Pidove}}<br />
|{{p|Pidove}}<br />
{{typetable|Normal}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|499<br />
|{{MSP|499|Pignite}}<br />
|{{p|Pignite}}<br />
{{typetable|Fire}}<br />
{{typetable|Fighting}}<br />
|-<br />
|025<br />
|{{MSP|025|Pikachu}}<br />
|{{p|Pikachu}}<br />
{{typetable2|Electric}}<br />
|-<br />
|221<br />
|{{MSP|221|Piloswine}}<br />
|{{p|Piloswine}}<br />
{{typetable|Ice}}<br />
{{typetable|Ground}}<br />
|-<br />
|204<br />
|{{MSP|204|Pineco}}<br />
|{{p|Pineco}}<br />
{{typetable2|Bug}}<br />
|-<br />
|127<br />
|{{MSP|127|Pinsir}}<br />
|{{p|Pinsir}}<br />
{{typetable2|Bug}}<br />
|-<br />
|393<br />
|{{MSP|393|Piplup}}<br />
|{{p|Piplup}}<br />
{{typetable2|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|311<br />
|{{MSP|311|Plusle}}<br />
|{{p|Plusle}}<br />
{{typetable2|Electric}}<br />
|-<br />
|186<br />
|{{MSP|186|Politoed}}<br />
|{{p|Politoed}}<br />
{{typetable2|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|060<br />
|{{MSP|060|Poliwag}}<br />
|{{p|Poliwag}}<br />
{{typetable2|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|061<br />
|{{MSP|061|Poliwhirl}}<br />
|{{p|Poliwhirl}}<br />
{{typetable2|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|062<br />
|{{MSP|062|Poliwrath}}<br />
|{{p|Poliwrath}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
{{typetable|Fighting}}<br />
|-<br />
|077<br />
|{{MSP|077|Ponyta}}<br />
|{{p|Ponyta}}<br />
{{typetable2|Fire}}<br />
|-<br />
|261<br />
|{{MSP|261|Poochyena}}<br />
|{{p|Poochyena}}<br />
{{typetable2|Dark}}<br />
|-<br />
|137<br />
|{{MSP|137|Porygon}}<br />
|{{p|Porygon}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|233<br />
|{{MSP|233|Porygon2}}<br />
|{{p|Porygon2}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|474<br />
|{{MSP|474|Porygon-Z}}<br />
|{{p|Porygon-Z}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|057<br />
|{{MSP|057|Primeape}}<br />
|{{p|Primeape}}<br />
{{typetable2|Fighting}}<br />
|-<br />
|394<br />
|{{MSP|394|Prinplup}}<br />
|{{p|Prinplup}}<br />
{{typetable2|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|476<br />
|{{MSP|476|Probopass}}<br />
|{{p|Probopass}}<br />
{{typetable|Rock}}<br />
{{typetable|Steel}}<br />
|-<br />
|054<br />
|{{MSP|054|Psyduck}}<br />
|{{p|Psyduck}}<br />
{{typetable2|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|247<br />
|{{MSP|247|Pupitar}}<br />
|{{p|Pupitar}}<br />
{{typetable|Rock}}<br />
{{typetable|Ground}}<br />
|-<br />
|509<br />
|{{MSP|509|Purrloin}}<br />
|{{p|Purrloin}}<br />
{{typetable2|Dark}}<br />
|-<br />
|432<br />
|{{MSP|432|Purugly}}<br />
|{{p|Purugly}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
{{CompactTOC}}<br />
<br />
===Q===<br />
{| {{Bluetable|background: white; margin: auto;}}<br />
|- style="background: #ccf;"<br />
! #<br />
! Icon<br />
! Name<br />
! colspan="2" | Type<br />
|-<br />
|195<br />
|{{MSP|195|Quagsire}}<br />
|{{p|Quagsire}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
{{typetable|Ground}}<br />
|-<br />
|156<br />
|{{MSP|156|Quilava}}<br />
|{{p|Quilava}}<br />
{{typetable2|Fire}}<br />
|-<br />
|211<br />
|{{MSP|211|Qwilfish}}<br />
|{{p|Qwilfish}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
{{typetable|Poison}}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
{{CompactTOC}}<br />
===R===<br />
{| {{Bluetable|background: white; margin: auto;}}<br />
|- style="background: #ccf;"<br />
! #<br />
! Icon<br />
! Name<br />
! colspan="2" | Type<br />
|-<br />
|026<br />
|{{MSP|026|Raichu}}<br />
|{{p|Raichu}}<br />
{{typetable2|Electric}}<br />
|-<br />
|243<br />
|{{MSP|243|Raikou}}<br />
|{{p|Raikou}}<br />
{{typetable2|Electric}}<br />
|-<br />
|280<br />
|{{MSP|280|Ralts}}<br />
|{{p|Ralts}}<br />
{{typetable2|Psychic}}<br />
|-<br />
|409<br />
|{{MSP|409|Rampardos}}<br />
|{{p|Rampardos}}<br />
{{typetable2|Rock}}<br />
|-<br />
|078<br />
|{{MSP|078|Rapidash}}<br />
|{{p|Rapidash}}<br />
{{typetable2|Fire}}<br />
|-<br />
|020<br />
|{{MSP|020|Raticate}}<br />
|{{p|Raticate}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|019<br />
|{{MSP|019|Rattata}}<br />
|{{p|Rattata}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|384<br />
|{{MSP|384|Rayquaza}}<br />
|{{p|Rayquaza}}<br />
{{typetable|Dragon}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|378<br />
|{{MSP|378|Regice}}<br />
|{{p|Regice}}<br />
{{typetable2|Ice}}<br />
|-<br />
|486<br />
|{{MSP|486|Regigigas}}<br />
|{{p|Regigigas}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|377<br />
|{{MSP|377|Regirock}}<br />
|{{p|Regirock}}<br />
{{typetable2|Rock}}<br />
|-<br />
|379<br />
|{{MSP|379|Registeel}}<br />
|{{p|Registeel}}<br />
{{typetable2|Steel}}<br />
|-<br />
|369<br />
|{{MSP|369|Relicanth}}<br />
|{{p|Relicanth}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
{{typetable|Rock}}<br />
|-<br />
|223<br />
|{{MSP|223|Remoraid}}<br />
|{{p|Remoraid}}<br />
{{typetable2|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|643<br />
|{{MSP|643|Reshiram}}<br />
|{{p|Reshiram}}<br />
{{typetable|Dragon}}<br />
{{typetable|Fire}}<br />
|-<br />
|579<br />
|{{MSP|579|Reuniclus}}<br />
|{{p|Reuniclus}}<br />
{{typetable2|Psychic}}<br />
|-<br />
|112<br />
|{{MSP|112|Rhydon}}<br />
|{{p|Rhydon}}<br />
{{typetable|Ground}}<br />
{{typetable|Rock}}<br />
|-<br />
|111<br />
|{{MSP|111|Rhyhorn}}<br />
|{{p|Rhyhorn}}<br />
{{typetable|Ground}}<br />
{{typetable|Rock}}<br />
|-<br />
|464<br />
|{{MSP|464|Rhyperior}}<br />
|{{p|Rhyperior}}<br />
{{typetable|Ground}}<br />
{{typetable|Rock}}<br />
|-<br />
|447<br />
|{{MSP|447|Riolu}}<br />
|{{p|Riolu}}<br />
{{typetable2|Fighting}}<br />
|-<br />
|524<br />
|{{MSP|524|Roggenrola}}<br />
|{{p|Roggenrola}}<br />
{{typetable2|Rock}}<br />
|-<br />
|315<br />
|{{MSP|315|Roselia}}<br />
|{{p|Roselia}}<br />
{{typetable|Grass}}<br />
{{typetable|Poison}}<br />
|-<br />
|407<br />
|{{MSP|407|Roserade}}<br />
|{{p|Roserade}}<br />
{{typetable|Grass}}<br />
{{typetable|Poison}}<br />
|-<br />
|479<br />
|{{MSP|479|Rotom}}<br />
|{{p|Rotom}}<br />
{{typetable|Electric}}<br />
{{typetable|Ghost}}<br />
|-<br />
|627<br />
|{{MSP|627|Rufflet}}<br />
|{{p|Rufflet}}<br />
{{typetable|Normal}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
{{CompactTOC}}<br />
<br />
===S===<br />
{| {{Bluetable|background: white; margin: auto;}}<br />
|- style="background: #ccf;"<br />
! #<br />
! Icon<br />
! Name<br />
! colspan="2" | Type<br />
|-<br />
|302<br />
|{{MSP|302|Sableye}}<br />
|{{p|Sableye}}<br />
{{typetable|Dark}}<br />
{{typetable|Ghost}}<br />
|-<br />
|373<br />
|{{MSP|373|Salamence}}<br />
|{{p|Salamence}}<br />
{{typetable|Dragon}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|503<br />
|{{MSP|503|Samurott}}<br />
|{{p|Samurott}}<br />
{{typetable2|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|551<br />
|{{MSP|551|Sandile}}<br />
|{{p|Sandile}}<br />
{{typetable|Ground}}<br />
{{typetable|Dark}}<br />
|-<br />
|027<br />
|{{MSP|027|Sandshrew}}<br />
|{{p|Sandshrew}}<br />
{{typetable2|Ground}}<br />
|-<br />
|028<br />
|{{MSP|028|Sandslash}}<br />
|{{p|Sandslash}}<br />
{{typetable2|Ground}}<br />
|-<br />
|539<br />
|{{MSP|539|Sawk}}<br />
|{{p|Sawk}}<br />
{{typetable2|Fighting}}<br />
|-<br />
|586<br />
|{{MSP|586|Sawsbuck}}<br />
|{{p|Sawsbuck}}<br />
{{typetable|Normal}}<br />
{{typetable|Grass}}<br />
|-<br />
|254<br />
|{{MSP|254|Sceptile}}<br />
|{{p|Sceptile}}<br />
{{typetable2|Grass}}<br />
|-<br />
|212<br />
|{{MSP|212|Scizor}}<br />
|{{p|Scizor}}<br />
{{typetable|Bug}}<br />
{{typetable|Steel}}<br />
|-<br />
|545<br />
|{{MSP|545|Scolipede}}<br />
|{{p|Scolipede}}<br />
{{typetable|Bug}}<br />
{{typetable|Poison}}<br />
|-<br />
|560<br />
|{{MSP|560|Scrafty}}<br />
|{{p|Scrafty}}<br />
{{typetable|Dark}}<br />
{{typetable|Fighting}}<br />
|-<br />
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|117<br />
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|{{MSP|119|Seaking}}<br />
|{{p|Seaking}}<br />
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|364<br />
|{{MSP|364|Sealeo}}<br />
|{{p|Sealeo}}<br />
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|273<br />
|{{MSP|273|Seedot}}<br />
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|086<br />
|{{MSP|086|Seel}}<br />
|{{p|Seel}}<br />
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|537<br />
|{{MSP|537|Seismitoad}}<br />
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|161<br />
|{{MSP|161|Sentret}}<br />
|{{p|Sentret}}<br />
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|497<br />
|{{MSP|497|Serperior}}<br />
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|{{MSP|496|Servine}}<br />
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|336<br />
|{{MSP|336|Seviper}}<br />
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|540<br />
|{{MSP|540|Sewaddle}}<br />
|{{p|Sewaddle}}<br />
{{typetable|Bug}}<br />
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|{{MSP|319|Sharpedo}}<br />
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|492<br />
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|292<br />
|{{MSP|292|Shedinja}}<br />
|{{p|Shedinja}}<br />
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|372<br />
|{{MSP|372|Shelgon}}<br />
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|090<br />
|{{MSP|090|Shellder}}<br />
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|{{MSP|422|Shellos}}<br />
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|410<br />
|{{MSP|410|Shieldon}}<br />
|{{p|Shieldon}}<br />
{{typetable|Rock}}<br />
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|275<br />
|{{MSP|275|Shiftry}}<br />
|{{p|Shiftry}}<br />
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|403<br />
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|285<br />
|{{MSP|285|Shroomish}}<br />
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|213<br />
|{{MSP|213|Shuckle}}<br />
|{{p|Shuckle}}<br />
{{typetable|Bug}}<br />
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|353<br />
|{{MSP|353|Shuppet}}<br />
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{{typetable2|Ghost}}<br />
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|561<br />
|{{MSP|561|Sigilyph}}<br />
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{{typetable|Psychic}}<br />
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|266<br />
|{{MSP|266|Silcoon}}<br />
|{{p|Silcoon}}<br />
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|516<br />
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|512<br />
|{{MSP|512|Simisage}}<br />
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|514<br />
|{{MSP|514|Simisear}}<br />
|{{p|Simisear}}<br />
{{typetable2|Fire}}<br />
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|227<br />
|{{MSP|227|Skarmory}}<br />
|{{p|Skarmory}}<br />
{{typetable|Steel}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
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|188<br />
|{{MSP|188|Skiploom}}<br />
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|300<br />
|{{MSP|300|Skitty}}<br />
|{{p|Skitty}}<br />
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|451<br />
|{{MSP|451|Skorupi}}<br />
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{{typetable|Poison}}<br />
{{typetable|Bug}}<br />
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|435<br />
|{{MSP|435|Skuntank}}<br />
|{{p|Skuntank}}<br />
{{typetable|Poison}}<br />
{{typetable|Dark}}<br />
|-<br />
|289<br />
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|{{p|Slaking}}<br />
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|-<br />
|287<br />
|{{MSP|287|Slakoth}}<br />
|{{p|Slakoth}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|080<br />
|{{MSP|080|Slowbro}}<br />
|{{p|Slowbro}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
{{typetable|Psychic}}<br />
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|199<br />
|{{MSP|199|Slowking}}<br />
|{{p|Slowking}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
{{typetable|Psychic}}<br />
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|079<br />
|{{MSP|079|Slowpoke}}<br />
|{{p|Slowpoke}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
{{typetable|Psychic}}<br />
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|218<br />
|{{MSP|218|Slugma}}<br />
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|-<br />
|235<br />
|{{MSP|235|Smeargle}}<br />
|{{p|Smeargle}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
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|238<br />
|{{MSP|238|Smoochum}}<br />
|{{p|Smoochum}}<br />
{{typetable|Ice}}<br />
{{typetable|Psychic}}<br />
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|215<br />
|{{MSP|215|Sneasel}}<br />
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{{typetable|Dark}}<br />
{{typetable|Ice}}<br />
|-<br />
|495<br />
|{{MSP|495|Snivy}}<br />
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{{typetable2|Grass}}<br />
|-<br />
|143<br />
|{{MSP|143|Snorlax}}<br />
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{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
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|361<br />
|{{MSP|361|Snorunt}}<br />
|{{p|Snorunt}}<br />
{{typetable2|Ice}}<br />
|-<br />
|459<br />
|{{MSP|459|Snover}}<br />
|{{p|Snover}}<br />
{{typetable|Grass}}<br />
{{typetable|Ice}}<br />
|-<br />
|209<br />
|{{MSP|209|Snubbull}}<br />
|{{p|Snubbull}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|577<br />
|{{MSP|577|Solosis}}<br />
|{{p|Solosis}}<br />
{{typetable2|Psychic}}<br />
|-<br />
|338<br />
|{{MSP|338|Solrock}}<br />
|{{p|Solrock}}<br />
{{typetable|Rock}}<br />
{{typetable|Psychic}}<br />
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|021<br />
|{{MSP|021|Spearow}}<br />
|{{p|Spearow}}<br />
{{typetable|Normal}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
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|363<br />
|{{MSP|363|Spheal}}<br />
|{{p|Spheal}}<br />
{{typetable|Ice}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
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|167<br />
|{{MSP|167|Spinarak}}<br />
|{{p|Spinarak}}<br />
{{typetable|Bug}}<br />
{{typetable|Poison}}<br />
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|327<br />
|{{MSP|327|Spinda}}<br />
|{{p|Spinda}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
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|442<br />
|{{MSP|442|Spiritomb}}<br />
|{{p|Spiritomb}}<br />
{{typetable|Ghost}}<br />
{{typetable|Dark}}<br />
|-<br />
|325<br />
|{{MSP|325|Spoink}}<br />
|{{p|Spoink}}<br />
{{typetable2|Psychic}}<br />
|-<br />
|007<br />
|{{MSP|007|Squirtle}}<br />
|{{p|Squirtle}}<br />
{{typetable2|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|234<br />
|{{MSP|234|Stantler}}<br />
|{{p|Stantler}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|398<br />
|{{MSP|398|Staraptor}}<br />
|{{p|Staraptor}}<br />
{{typetable|Normal}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
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|397<br />
|{{MSP|397|Staravia}}<br />
|{{p|Staravia}}<br />
{{typetable|Normal}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|396<br />
|{{MSP|396|Starly}}<br />
|{{p|Starly}}<br />
{{typetable|Normal}}<br />
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|-<br />
|121<br />
|{{MSP|121|Starmie}}<br />
|{{p|Starmie}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
{{typetable|Psychic}}<br />
|-<br />
|120<br />
|{{MSP|120|Staryu}}<br />
|{{p|Staryu}}<br />
{{typetable2|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|208<br />
|{{MSP|208|Steelix}}<br />
|{{p|Steelix}}<br />
{{typetable|Steel}}<br />
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|-<br />
|508<br />
|{{MSP|508|Stoutland}}<br />
|{{p|Stoutland}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|618<br />
|{{MSP|618|Stunfisk}}<br />
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{{typetable|Ground}}<br />
{{typetable|Electric}}<br />
|-<br />
|434<br />
|{{MSP|434|Stunky}}<br />
|{{p|Stunky}}<br />
{{typetable|Poison}}<br />
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|-<br />
|185<br />
|{{MSP|185|Sudowoodo}}<br />
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{{typetable2|Rock}}<br />
|-<br />
|245<br />
|{{MSP|245|Suicune}}<br />
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|-<br />
|192<br />
|{{MSP|192|Sunflora}}<br />
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|191<br />
|{{MSP|191|Sunkern}}<br />
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|283<br />
|{{MSP|283|Surskit}}<br />
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|333<br />
|{{MSP|333|Swablu}}<br />
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|541<br />
|{{MSP|541|Swadloon}}<br />
|{{p|Swadloon}}<br />
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|317<br />
|{{MSP|317|Swalot}}<br />
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|260<br />
|{{MSP|260|Swampert}}<br />
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|581<br />
|{{MSP|581|Swanna}}<br />
|{{p|Swanna}}<br />
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|277<br />
|{{MSP|277|Swellow}}<br />
|{{p|Swellow}}<br />
{{typetable|Normal}}<br />
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|220<br />
|{{MSP|220|Swinub}}<br />
|{{p|Swinub}}<br />
{{typetable|Ice}}<br />
{{typetable|Ground}}<br />
|-<br />
|528<br />
|{{MSP|528|Swoobat}}<br />
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{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
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===T===<br />
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! #<br />
! Icon<br />
! Name<br />
! colspan="2" | Type<br />
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|276<br />
|{{MSP|276|Taillow}}<br />
|{{p|Taillow}}<br />
{{typetable|Normal}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|114<br />
|{{MSP|114|Tangela}}<br />
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|-<br />
|465<br />
|{{MSP|465|Tangrowth}}<br />
|{{p|Tangrowth}}<br />
{{typetable2|Grass}}<br />
|-<br />
|128<br />
|{{MSP|128|Tauros}}<br />
|{{p|Tauros}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|216<br />
|{{MSP|216|Teddiursa}}<br />
|{{p|Teddiursa}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|072<br />
|{{MSP|072|Tentacool}}<br />
|{{p|Tentacool}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
{{typetable|Poison}}<br />
|-<br />
|073<br />
|{{MSP|073|Tentacruel}}<br />
|{{p|Tentacruel}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
{{typetable|Poison}}<br />
|-<br />
|498<br />
|{{MSP|498|Tepig}}<br />
|{{p|Tepig}}<br />
{{typetable2|Fire}}<br />
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|639<br />
|{{MSP|639|Terrakion}}<br />
|{{p|Terrakion}}<br />
{{typetable|Rock}}<br />
{{typetable|Fighting}}<br />
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|538<br />
|{{MSP|538|Throh}}<br />
|{{p|Throh}}<br />
{{typetable2|Fighting}}<br />
|-<br />
|642<br />
|{{MSP|642|Thundurus}}<br />
|{{p|Thundurus}}<br />
{{typetable|Electric}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|532<br />
|{{MSP|532|Timburr}}<br />
|{{p|Timburr}}<br />
{{typetable2|Fighting}}<br />
|-<br />
|564<br />
|{{MSP|564|Tirtouga}}<br />
|{{p|Tirtouga}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
{{typetable|Rock}}<br />
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|468<br />
|{{MSP|468|Togekiss}}<br />
|{{p|Togekiss}}<br />
{{typetable|Normal}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|175<br />
|{{MSP|175|Togepi}}<br />
|{{p|Togepi}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|176<br />
|{{MSP|176|Togetic}}<br />
|{{p|Togetic}}<br />
{{typetable|Normal}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
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|255<br />
|{{MSP|255|Torchic}}<br />
|{{p|Torchic}}<br />
{{typetable2|Fire}}<br />
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|324<br />
|{{MSP|324|Torkoal}}<br />
|{{p|Torkoal}}<br />
{{typetable2|Fire}}<br />
|-<br />
|641<br />
|{{MSP|641|Tornadus}}<br />
|{{p|Tornadus}}<br />
{{typetable2|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|389<br />
|{{MSP|389|Torterra}}<br />
|{{p|Torterra}}<br />
{{typetable|Grass}}<br />
{{typetable|Ground}}<br />
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|158<br />
|{{MSP|158|Totodile}}<br />
|{{p|Totodile}}<br />
{{typetable2|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|454<br />
|{{MSP|454|Toxicroak}}<br />
|{{p|Toxicroak}}<br />
{{typetable|Poison}}<br />
{{typetable|Fighting}}<br />
|-<br />
|520<br />
|{{MSP|520|Tranquill}}<br />
|{{p|Tranquill}}<br />
{{typetable|Normal}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
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|328<br />
|{{MSP|328|Trapinch}}<br />
|{{p|Trapinch}}<br />
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|-<br />
|252<br />
|{{MSP|252|Treecko}}<br />
|{{p|Treecko}}<br />
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|-<br />
|357<br />
|{{MSP|357|Tropius}}<br />
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{{typetable|Grass}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|568<br />
|{{MSP|568|Trubbish}}<br />
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{{typetable2|Poison}}<br />
|-<br />
|387<br />
|{{MSP|387|Turtwig}}<br />
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|-<br />
|535<br />
|{{MSP|535|Tympole}}<br />
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|602<br />
|{{MSP|602|Tynamo}}<br />
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|-<br />
|157<br />
|{{MSP|157|Typhlosion}}<br />
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{{typetable2|Fire}}<br />
|-<br />
|248<br />
|{{MSP|248|Tyranitar}}<br />
|{{p|Tyranitar}}<br />
{{typetable|Rock}}<br />
{{typetable|Dark}}<br />
|-<br />
|236<br />
|{{MSP|236|Tyrogue}}<br />
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{{typetable2|Fighting}}<br />
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===U===<br />
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|{{MSP|197|Umbreon}}<br />
|{{p|Umbreon}}<br />
{{typetable2|Dark}}<br />
|-<br />
|521<br />
|{{MSP|521|Unfezant}}<br />
|{{p|Unfezant}}<br />
{{typetable|Normal}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|201<br />
|{{MSP|201|Unown}}<br />
|{{p|Unown}}<br />
{{typetable2|Psychic}}<br />
|-<br />
|217<br />
|{{MSP|217|Ursaring}}<br />
|{{p|Ursaring}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|480<br />
|{{MSP|480|Uxie}}<br />
|{{p|Uxie}}<br />
{{typetable2|Psychic}}<br />
|}<br />
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<br />
<br />
<br />
{{CompactTOC}}<br />
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{| {{Bluetable|background: white; margin: auto;}}<br />
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|{{MSP|583|Vanillish}}<br />
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{{typetable2|Ice}}<br />
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|582<br />
|{{MSP|582|Vanillite}}<br />
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|584<br />
|{{MSP|584|Vanilluxe}}<br />
|{{p|Vanilluxe}}<br />
{{typetable2|Ice}}<br />
|-<br />
|134<br />
|{{MSP|134|Vaporeon}}<br />
|{{p|Vaporeon}}<br />
{{typetable2|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|543<br />
|{{MSP|543|Venipede}}<br />
|{{p|Venipede}}<br />
{{typetable|Bug}}<br />
{{typetable|Poison}}<br />
|-<br />
|049<br />
|{{MSP|049|Venomoth}}<br />
|{{p|Venomoth}}<br />
{{typetable|Bug}}<br />
{{typetable|Poison}}<br />
|-<br />
|048<br />
|{{MSP|048|Venonat}}<br />
|{{p|Venonat}}<br />
{{typetable|Bug}}<br />
{{typetable|Poison}}<br />
|-<br />
|003<br />
|{{MSP|003|Venusaur}}<br />
|{{p|Venusaur}}<br />
{{typetable|Grass}}<br />
{{typetable|Poison}}<br />
|-<br />
|416<br />
|{{MSP|416|Vespiquen}}<br />
|{{p|Vespiquen}}<br />
{{typetable|Bug}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|329<br />
|{{MSP|329|Vibrava}}<br />
|{{p|Vibrava}}<br />
{{typetable|Ground}}<br />
{{typetable|Dragon}}<br />
|-<br />
|494<br />
|{{MSP|494|Victini}}<br />
|{{p|Victini}}<br />
{{typetable|Psychic}}<br />
{{typetable|Fire}}<br />
|-<br />
|071<br />
|{{MSP|071|Victreebel}}<br />
|{{p|Victreebel}}<br />
{{typetable|Grass}}<br />
{{typetable|Poison}}<br />
|-<br />
|288<br />
|{{MSP|288|Vigoroth}}<br />
|{{p|Vigoroth}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|045<br />
|{{MSP|045|Vileplume}}<br />
|{{p|Vileplume}}<br />
{{typetable|Grass}}<br />
{{typetable|Poison}}<br />
|-<br />
|640<br />
|{{MSP|640|Virizion}}<br />
|{{p|Virizion}}<br />
{{typetable|Grass}}<br />
{{typetable|Fighting}}<br />
|-<br />
|313<br />
|{{MSP|313|Volbeat}}<br />
|{{p|Volbeat}}<br />
{{typetable2|Bug}}<br />
|-<br />
|637<br />
|{{MSP|637|Volcarona}}<br />
|{{p|Volcarona}}<br />
{{typetable|Bug}}<br />
{{typetable|Fire}}<br />
|-<br />
|100<br />
|{{MSP|100|Voltorb}}<br />
|{{p|Voltorb}}<br />
{{typetable2|Electric}}<br />
|-<br />
|629<br />
|{{MSP|629|Vullaby}}<br />
|{{p|Vullaby}}<br />
{{typetable|Dark}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|037<br />
|{{MSP|037|Vulpix}}<br />
|{{p|Vulpix}}<br />
{{typetable2|Fire}}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
{{CompactTOC}}<br />
===W===<br />
{| {{Bluetable|background: white; margin: auto;}}<br />
|- style="background: #ccf;"<br />
! #<br />
! Icon<br />
! Name<br />
! colspan="2" | Type<br />
|-<br />
|320<br />
|{{MSP|320|Wailmer}}<br />
|{{p|Wailmer}}<br />
{{typetable2|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|321<br />
|{{MSP|321|Wailord}}<br />
|{{p|Wailord}}<br />
{{typetable2|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|365<br />
|{{MSP|365|Walrein}}<br />
|{{p|Walrein}}<br />
{{typetable|Ice}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|008<br />
|{{MSP|008|Wartortle}}<br />
|{{p|Wartortle}}<br />
{{typetable2|Water}}<br />
|-<br />
|505<br />
|{{MSP|505|Watchog}}<br />
|{{p|Watchog}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|461<br />
|{{MSP|461|Weavile}}<br />
|{{p|Weavile}}<br />
{{typetable|Dark}}<br />
{{typetable|Ice}}<br />
|-<br />
|013<br />
|{{MSP|013|Weedle}}<br />
|{{p|Weedle}}<br />
{{typetable|Bug}}<br />
{{typetable|Poison}}<br />
|-<br />
|070<br />
|{{MSP|070|Weepinbell}}<br />
|{{p|Weepinbell}}<br />
{{typetable|Grass}}<br />
{{typetable|Poison}}<br />
|-<br />
|110<br />
|{{MSP|110|Weezing}}<br />
|{{p|Weezing}}<br />
{{typetable2|Poison}}<br />
|-<br />
|547<br />
|{{MSP|547|Whimsicott}}<br />
|{{p|Whimsicott}}<br />
{{typetable2|Grass}}<br />
|-<br />
|544<br />
|{{MSP|544|Whirlipede}}<br />
|{{p|Whirlipede}}<br />
{{typetable|Bug}}<br />
{{typetable|Poison}}<br />
|-<br />
|340<br />
|{{MSP|340|Whiscash}}<br />
|{{p|Whiscash}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
{{typetable|Ground}}<br />
|-<br />
|293<br />
|{{MSP|293|Whismur}}<br />
|{{p|Whismur}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|040<br />
|{{MSP|040|Wigglytuff}}<br />
|{{p|Wigglytuff}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|278<br />
|{{MSP|278|Wingull}}<br />
|{{p|Wingull}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|202<br />
|{{MSP|202|Wobbuffet}}<br />
|{{p|Wobbuffet}}<br />
{{typetable2|Psychic}}<br />
|-<br />
|527<br />
|{{MSP|527|Woobat}}<br />
|{{p|Woobat}}<br />
{{typetable|Psychic}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|194<br />
|{{MSP|194|Wooper}}<br />
|{{p|Wooper}}<br />
{{typetable|Water}}<br />
{{typetable|Ground}}<br />
|-<br />
|413<br />
|{{MSP|413|Wormadam}}<br />
|{{p|Wormadam}}<br />
{{typetable|Bug}}<br />
{{typetable|Grass}}<br />
|-<br />
|413<br />
|{{MSP|413G|Wormadam}}<br />
|{{p|Wormadam}}<br />
{{typetable|Bug}}<br />
{{typetable|Ground}}<br />
|-<br />
|413<br />
|{{MSP|413S|Wormadam}}<br />
|{{p|Wormadam}}<br />
{{typetable|Bug}}<br />
{{typetable|Steel}}<br />
|-<br />
|265<br />
|{{MSP|265|Wurmple}}<br />
|{{p|Wurmple}}<br />
{{typetable2|Bug}}<br />
|-<br />
|360<br />
|{{MSP|360|Wynaut}}<br />
|{{p|Wynaut}}<br />
{{typetable2|Psychic}}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
<br />
{{CompactTOC}}<br />
<br />
===X===<br />
{| {{Bluetable|background: white; margin: auto;}}<br />
|- style="background: #ccf;"<br />
! #<br />
! Icon<br />
! Name<br />
! colspan="2" | Type<br />
|-<br />
|178<br />
|{{MSP|178|Xatu}}<br />
|{{p|Xatu}}<br />
{{typetable|Psychic}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
{{CompactTOC}}<br />
===Y===<br />
{| {{Bluetable|background: white; margin: auto;}}<br />
|- style="background: #ccf;"<br />
! #<br />
! Icon<br />
! Name<br />
! colspan="2" | Type<br />
|-<br />
|562<br />
|{{MSP|562|Yamask}}<br />
|{{p|Yamask}}<br />
{{typetable2|Ghost}}<br />
|-<br />
|193<br />
|{{MSP|193|Yanma}}<br />
|{{p|Yanma}}<br />
{{typetable|Bug}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|469<br />
|{{MSP|469|Yanmega}}<br />
|{{p|Yanmega}}<br />
{{typetable|Bug}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
{{CompactTOC}}<br />
===Z===<br />
{| {{Bluetable|background: white; margin: auto;}}<br />
|- style="background: #ccf;"<br />
! #<br />
! Icon<br />
! Name<br />
! colspan="2" | Type<br />
|-<br />
|335<br />
|{{MSP|335|Zangoose}}<br />
|{{p|Zangoose}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|145<br />
|{{MSP|145|Zapdos}}<br />
|{{p|Zapdos}}<br />
{{typetable|Electric}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|523<br />
|{{MSP|523|Zebstrika}}<br />
|{{p|Zebstrika}}<br />
{{typetable2|Electric}}<br />
|-<br />
|644<br />
|{{MSP|644|Zekrom}}<br />
|{{p|Zekrom}}<br />
{{typetable|Dragon}}<br />
{{typetable|Electric}}<br />
|-<br />
|263<br />
|{{MSP|263|Zigzagoon}}<br />
|{{p|Zigzagoon}}<br />
{{typetable2|Normal}}<br />
|-<br />
|571<br />
|{{MSP|571|Zoroark}}<br />
|{{p|Zoroark}}<br />
{{typetable2|Dark}}<br />
|-<br />
|570<br />
|{{MSP|570|Zorua}}<br />
|{{p|Zorua}}<br />
{{typetable2|Dark}}<br />
|-<br />
|041<br />
|{{MSP|041|Zubat}}<br />
|{{p|Zubat}}<br />
{{typetable|Poison}}<br />
{{typetable|Flying}}<br />
|-<br />
|634<br />
|{{MSP|634|Zweilous}}<br />
|{{p|Zweilous}}<br />
{{typetable|Dark}}<br />
{{typetable|Dragon}}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
==Trivia==<br />
* 94 Pokémon begin with S, giving it the highest frequency of occurrence for an initial letter. M comes second with 57. The least frequently used letter is X, with only one name, {{p|Xatu}}, beginning with it.<br />
** In terms of letters used regardless of position, A has the highest frequency and is used 464 times. The most frequent consonant is R, with 374 uses. J and Q are each used only ten times.<br />
* The three Pokémon that start with the letter Q ({{p|Quagsire}}, {{p|Quilava}}, and {{p|Qwilfish}}) were all introduced in [[Generation II]].<br />
* Prior to [[Generation IV]], {{p|Abra}} was the first Pokémon in the alphabetical list. {{p|Abomasnow}} now holds this title.<br />
* Prior to [[Generation V]], {{p|Zubat}} was the last Pokémon in the alphabetical list. {{p|Zweilous}} now holds this title.<br />
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[[Category:Lists]]<br />
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[[pt:Lista de Pokémon por ordem alfabética]]<br />
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[[fr:Liste des Pokémon par ordre alphabétique]]<br />
[[it:Elenco Pokémon per nome]]</div>Phoenixonhttps://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:List_of_Pok%C3%A9mon_by_name&diff=1628608Talk:List of Pokémon by name2012-03-18T07:42:32Z<p>Phoenixon: /* Z */</p>
<hr />
<div>I noticed that this list is up-to-date as of Gen III, and very few of the Gen IV Pokémon have English names yet, so what do we do? Should we fill them in gradually as they get them, or wait for them all at once? Not including the Japanese romanji in there is a definite good idea, though, no matter what future generation we're dealing with. [[User:TTEchidna|Tom Temprotran]] 04:21, 11 November 2006 (UTC)<br />
:Vote for waiting the full list to avoid multiple edits and avoid rumors, besides there is always the chance of a last minute change like some G I PKMN had. [[User:Gambler|Gambler]] 04:32, 11 November 2006 (UTC)<br />
::Yeah, true. Ah well, now to have pages based on Pokémon by height and weight... Won't that be fun? [[User:TTEchidna|Tom Temprotran]] 09:07, 11 November 2006 (UTC)<br />
:::Working on that right now. How about one by species? Or by Gender ratio? Or by Breeding Group? Or by EV given? Or am I going too far? [[User:Gambler|Gambler]] 09:29, 13 November 2006 (UTC)<br />
::::None of those is really too far, at least as much as I see. Species maybe, since those are maybe 3-4 Pokémon apiece... And we have the listed Egg groups (just not updated fully to Gen IV, I think)... EVs would be a good one, though... And maybe a gender page would be a good idea. Heck, it'd be a great one. I'll add those two to the template. [[User:TTEchidna|Tom Temprotran]] 07:12, 14 November 2006 (UTC)<br />
:::::Could someone have the regional numbers and browser numbers added to the table? i'd do it myself but its too tedious. <span style="background:#FF8000; border: 2px solid #000000; font-family:Verdana;">'''[[:User:Origamiguy|<FONT COLOR="#000000">折り紙</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000">ガイ</FONT>]] <FONT COLOR="#000000">-</FONT> [[:User_talk:Origamiguy|<FONT COLOR="#000000">離す</FONT>]] [[:Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|<FONT COLOR="#000000">貢献</FONT>]]'''</span> 16:07, 8 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
Umm, it says that no Japanese romanji will be included in the beginning, but the newly released Zoroark and Zorua are listed on the list<br />
<br />
== Little icons ==<br />
<br />
I think this page would look better if it had the little icons before the Pokémon's name. I tried to add them myself, but it was too tedious. Especially since some of the pictures are .gif and some others are .png for no reason. -[[User:Someone Else|Someone Else]]<br />
:Those that are beyond 400 are all png. Up to that point, they're all gif. And yes, it ''is'' tedious. <span style="background:#FF9030">'''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#000000">chidna</span>]]</span>{{ani|155|Fire echy}}<span style="background:#664444">[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|<sup><span style="color:#FFD700">G</span></sup><sub><span style="color:#E0E0E0">S</span></sub><span style="color:#000000">DS!</span>]]'''</span> 01:21, 31 January 2008 (UTC)<br />
::Okay, I did A and B, by copy and pasting other tabled lists, but changing the data. And it is very tedious. Anyone can join in and help if they want. --[[User:Someone Else|Someone Else]]<br />
:::Okay! I have done the entirety of the page. It took a couple of days, but it's done. --[[User:Someone Else|Someone Else]] 08:41, 5 February 2008 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Ho-Oh and Honchkrow ==<br />
<br />
In this article, Honchkrow precedes Ho-Oh. But the database's categories list Ho-Oh before Honchkrow. Personally, I'd change it to the way the categories do it. But I'm afraid I might mess up something. [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] 17:47, 22 August 2008 (UTC)<br />
<br />
:I thought special characters are supposed to come before the letters. Which would make sense to have Ho-Oh first. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|<font color="#003366" face="comic sans ms">'''$aturn'''</font>]][[User:SaturnYoshi|<font color="#008000" face="comic sans ms">'''¥oshi'''</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:SaturnYoshi|<font color="#800000">THE VOICES</font>]]</sup> 23:04, 22 August 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Trivia ==<br />
<br />
* Of the seven Pokémon that start with Z, two were introduced in [[Generation I]] ({{p|Zapdos}} and {{p|Zubat}}), two were introduced in [[Generation III]] ({{p|Zangoose}} and {{p|Zigzagoon}}), and three were introduced in [[Generation V]] ({{p|Zorua}}, {{p|Zoroark}}, and {{p|Zekrom}}).<br />
-To me that doesn't seem trivia worthy, It is too broad, (Of the seven two are this, two are that, and three are the other) [[User:Lokitrick|Lokitrick]] 13:14, 8 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
:- It should say four Pokemon, not seven, since Zekrom shouldn't be on the list, and even with it included, there are only five names with Z now, not seven.--[[User:Jdthebud|Jdthebud]] 16:55, 21 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Another trivia ==<br />
<br />
Since Generation II, there has been a Pokémon species starting with each letter of the alphabet. However in Generation I, there was no Pokémon starting with the letters Q, U, X or Y. [[User:Kidburla|Kidburla]] 10:30, 30 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== A small request ==<br />
<br />
Bulbanews has already confirmed that there are over 50 English names for the new Generation V Pokémon like Sawk, Liepard, Pidove, Oshawott, etc. Somebody has got to add these to the list.--[[User:JeffSharpedo rk|JeffSharpedo rk]] 23:51, 11 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Generation V ==<br />
<br />
Now that all of the Unova Pokemon have been released, we should add in the Pokemons' sprites and names... as well as changing the trivia [[User:Toadstool|Toadstool]] 00:32, 12 April 2011 (UTC)<br />
<br />
:Wanted to say the same. I would definitely help with it. --[[User:KingisNitro|KingisNitro]] 15:48, 12 April 2011 (UTC)<br />
::I've saved an edit in a notepad with the list and trivia updated. According to the log, the block expires on Monday, so if nobody does it before, I'll have it done by then.--[[User:Kaoz|Kaoz]] 03:37, 17 April 2011 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Opening paragraph ==<br />
<br />
It says "minus the Generation IV Pokémon", when Gen V should be mentioned as well now. [[User:Flicky|Fli]][[User talk:Flicky|cky]][[Special:Contributions/Flicky|1991]] 16:52, 17 April 2011 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Z ==<br />
<br />
"J and Z are each used only ten times."<br><br />
#Alaka'''z'''am<br />
#A'''z'''elf<br />
#A'''z'''umarill<br />
#A'''z'''urill<br />
#Bla'''z'''iken<br />
#Blit'''z'''le<br />
#Bron'''z'''ong<br />
#Bron'''z'''or<br />
#Bui'''z'''el<br />
#Chari'''z'''ard<br />
#Drow'''z'''ee<br />
#Electabu'''zz'''<br />
#Float'''z'''el<br />
#Magne'''z'''one<br />
#Mandibu'''zz'''<br />
#Nu'''z'''leaf<br />
#Porygon-'''Z'''<br />
#Rayqua'''z'''a<br />
#Sci'''z'''or<br />
#Unfe'''z'''ant<br />
#Viri'''z'''ion<br />
#Wee'''z'''ing<br />
#'''Z'''angoose<br />
#'''Z'''apdos<br />
#'''Z'''ebstrika<br />
#'''Z'''ekrom<br />
#'''Z'''igzagoon<br />
#'''Z'''oroark<br />
#'''Z'''orua<br />
#'''Z'''ubat<br />
#'''Z'''weilous<br />
<br />
<br />
Really? --[[User:PenblooeR|PenblooeR]] 22:15, 6 February 2012 (UTC)<br />
In your list..<br />
for some of the pokes, there is more than one z in the name (ex Mandibuzz has 2 z's). So do you only count that as one z?(because it seems like that's how you did it) i didn't do it like that (In the section below this) That's why even though you listed 31 pokemon with z, z actually occurs 34 times (electabuzz, mandibuzz, and zigzagoon have 2 each)<br />
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== Everything To Gen V ==<br />
<br />
Occurrence:<br />
a-464, b-101, c-159, d-153, e-415, f-61, g-156, h-136, i-358, j-10, k-104, l-309, m-168, n-292, o-405, p-147, q-10, r-376, s-253, t-264, u-194, v-45, w-77, x-22, y-86, z-34<br />
[[User:Phoenixon|Phoenixon]] 07:24, 18 March 2012 (UTC)</div>Phoenixonhttps://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:List_of_Pok%C3%A9mon_by_name&diff=1628605Talk:List of Pokémon by name2012-03-18T07:24:55Z<p>Phoenixon: /* Everything To Gen V */ new section</p>
<hr />
<div>I noticed that this list is up-to-date as of Gen III, and very few of the Gen IV Pokémon have English names yet, so what do we do? Should we fill them in gradually as they get them, or wait for them all at once? Not including the Japanese romanji in there is a definite good idea, though, no matter what future generation we're dealing with. [[User:TTEchidna|Tom Temprotran]] 04:21, 11 November 2006 (UTC)<br />
:Vote for waiting the full list to avoid multiple edits and avoid rumors, besides there is always the chance of a last minute change like some G I PKMN had. [[User:Gambler|Gambler]] 04:32, 11 November 2006 (UTC)<br />
::Yeah, true. Ah well, now to have pages based on Pokémon by height and weight... Won't that be fun? [[User:TTEchidna|Tom Temprotran]] 09:07, 11 November 2006 (UTC)<br />
:::Working on that right now. How about one by species? Or by Gender ratio? Or by Breeding Group? Or by EV given? Or am I going too far? [[User:Gambler|Gambler]] 09:29, 13 November 2006 (UTC)<br />
::::None of those is really too far, at least as much as I see. Species maybe, since those are maybe 3-4 Pokémon apiece... And we have the listed Egg groups (just not updated fully to Gen IV, I think)... EVs would be a good one, though... And maybe a gender page would be a good idea. Heck, it'd be a great one. I'll add those two to the template. [[User:TTEchidna|Tom Temprotran]] 07:12, 14 November 2006 (UTC)<br />
:::::Could someone have the regional numbers and browser numbers added to the table? i'd do it myself but its too tedious. <span style="background:#FF8000; border: 2px solid #000000; font-family:Verdana;">'''[[:User:Origamiguy|<FONT COLOR="#000000">折り紙</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000">ガイ</FONT>]] <FONT COLOR="#000000">-</FONT> [[:User_talk:Origamiguy|<FONT COLOR="#000000">離す</FONT>]] [[:Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|<FONT COLOR="#000000">貢献</FONT>]]'''</span> 16:07, 8 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
Umm, it says that no Japanese romanji will be included in the beginning, but the newly released Zoroark and Zorua are listed on the list<br />
<br />
== Little icons ==<br />
<br />
I think this page would look better if it had the little icons before the Pokémon's name. I tried to add them myself, but it was too tedious. Especially since some of the pictures are .gif and some others are .png for no reason. -[[User:Someone Else|Someone Else]]<br />
:Those that are beyond 400 are all png. Up to that point, they're all gif. And yes, it ''is'' tedious. <span style="background:#FF9030">'''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#000000">chidna</span>]]</span>{{ani|155|Fire echy}}<span style="background:#664444">[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|<sup><span style="color:#FFD700">G</span></sup><sub><span style="color:#E0E0E0">S</span></sub><span style="color:#000000">DS!</span>]]'''</span> 01:21, 31 January 2008 (UTC)<br />
::Okay, I did A and B, by copy and pasting other tabled lists, but changing the data. And it is very tedious. Anyone can join in and help if they want. --[[User:Someone Else|Someone Else]]<br />
:::Okay! I have done the entirety of the page. It took a couple of days, but it's done. --[[User:Someone Else|Someone Else]] 08:41, 5 February 2008 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Ho-Oh and Honchkrow ==<br />
<br />
In this article, Honchkrow precedes Ho-Oh. But the database's categories list Ho-Oh before Honchkrow. Personally, I'd change it to the way the categories do it. But I'm afraid I might mess up something. [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] 17:47, 22 August 2008 (UTC)<br />
<br />
:I thought special characters are supposed to come before the letters. Which would make sense to have Ho-Oh first. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|<font color="#003366" face="comic sans ms">'''$aturn'''</font>]][[User:SaturnYoshi|<font color="#008000" face="comic sans ms">'''¥oshi'''</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:SaturnYoshi|<font color="#800000">THE VOICES</font>]]</sup> 23:04, 22 August 2008 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Trivia ==<br />
<br />
* Of the seven Pokémon that start with Z, two were introduced in [[Generation I]] ({{p|Zapdos}} and {{p|Zubat}}), two were introduced in [[Generation III]] ({{p|Zangoose}} and {{p|Zigzagoon}}), and three were introduced in [[Generation V]] ({{p|Zorua}}, {{p|Zoroark}}, and {{p|Zekrom}}).<br />
-To me that doesn't seem trivia worthy, It is too broad, (Of the seven two are this, two are that, and three are the other) [[User:Lokitrick|Lokitrick]] 13:14, 8 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
:- It should say four Pokemon, not seven, since Zekrom shouldn't be on the list, and even with it included, there are only five names with Z now, not seven.--[[User:Jdthebud|Jdthebud]] 16:55, 21 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Another trivia ==<br />
<br />
Since Generation II, there has been a Pokémon species starting with each letter of the alphabet. However in Generation I, there was no Pokémon starting with the letters Q, U, X or Y. [[User:Kidburla|Kidburla]] 10:30, 30 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== A small request ==<br />
<br />
Bulbanews has already confirmed that there are over 50 English names for the new Generation V Pokémon like Sawk, Liepard, Pidove, Oshawott, etc. Somebody has got to add these to the list.--[[User:JeffSharpedo rk|JeffSharpedo rk]] 23:51, 11 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Generation V ==<br />
<br />
Now that all of the Unova Pokemon have been released, we should add in the Pokemons' sprites and names... as well as changing the trivia [[User:Toadstool|Toadstool]] 00:32, 12 April 2011 (UTC)<br />
<br />
:Wanted to say the same. I would definitely help with it. --[[User:KingisNitro|KingisNitro]] 15:48, 12 April 2011 (UTC)<br />
::I've saved an edit in a notepad with the list and trivia updated. According to the log, the block expires on Monday, so if nobody does it before, I'll have it done by then.--[[User:Kaoz|Kaoz]] 03:37, 17 April 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Opening paragraph ==<br />
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It says "minus the Generation IV Pokémon", when Gen V should be mentioned as well now. [[User:Flicky|Fli]][[User talk:Flicky|cky]][[Special:Contributions/Flicky|1991]] 16:52, 17 April 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Z ==<br />
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"J and Z are each used only ten times."<br><br />
#Alaka'''z'''am<br />
#A'''z'''elf<br />
#A'''z'''umarill<br />
#A'''z'''urill<br />
#Bla'''z'''iken<br />
#Blit'''z'''le<br />
#Bron'''z'''ong<br />
#Bron'''z'''or<br />
#Bui'''z'''el<br />
#Chari'''z'''ard<br />
#Drow'''z'''ee<br />
#Electabu'''zz'''<br />
#Float'''z'''el<br />
#Magne'''z'''one<br />
#Mandibu'''zz'''<br />
#Nu'''z'''leaf<br />
#Porygon-'''Z'''<br />
#Rayqua'''z'''a<br />
#Sci'''z'''or<br />
#Unfe'''z'''ant<br />
#Viri'''z'''ion<br />
#Wee'''z'''ing<br />
#'''Z'''angoose<br />
#'''Z'''apdos<br />
#'''Z'''ebstrika<br />
#'''Z'''ekrom<br />
#'''Z'''igzagoon<br />
#'''Z'''oroark<br />
#'''Z'''orua<br />
#'''Z'''ubat<br />
#'''Z'''weilous<br />
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Really? --[[User:PenblooeR|PenblooeR]] 22:15, 6 February 2012 (UTC)<br />
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== Everything To Gen V ==<br />
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Occurrence:<br />
a-464, b-101, c-159, d-153, e-415, f-61, g-156, h-136, i-358, j-10, k-104, l-309, m-168, n-292, o-405, p-147, q-10, r-376, s-253, t-264, u-194, v-45, w-77, x-22, y-86, z-34<br />
[[User:Phoenixon|Phoenixon]] 07:24, 18 March 2012 (UTC)</div>Phoenixonhttps://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Super-ancient_Pok%C3%A9mon&diff=1627030Super-ancient Pokémon2012-03-16T06:32:42Z<p>Phoenixon: /* Intro */</p>
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<div>[[File:Weather trio.png|thumb|right|210px|Groudon and Kyogre battle as Rayquaza arrives.]]<br />
The '''weather trio''', also less commonly referred to as the '''elemental trio''', is the [[legendary trio]] made up of {{p|Groudon}}, {{p|Kyogre}}, and {{p|Rayquaza}}. They are referred to in the games as the '''super-ancient Pokémon''' (Japanese: '''超古代ポケモン''' ''super-ancient Pokémon''), although the Japanese anime has applied this term to [[Fossil]] Pokémon as well.<br />
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The weather trio could be references to the Biblical mythologies, {{wp|Leviathan}}, a sea monster; {{wp|Behemoth}}, a land beast; and {{wp|Ziz}}, a giant bird, respectively. Also, their role as the guardian, as well as their respective typing, are related to the elemental spheres; Kyogre being the {{wp|hydrosphere}}, Groudon being the {{wp|lithosphere}}, and Rayquaza being the {{wp|atmosphere}}. These three members all appear to have similar physiology; identical signs on their body, as well as their yellow eyes.<br />
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Although several non-legendary Pokémon, such as {{p|Tyranitar}} and {{p|Abomasnow}}, have [[Ability|abilities]] that can alter the [[weather conditions]], and Pokémon with the ability {{a|Cloud Nine}} are capable of stopping weather effects altogether, Groudon, Kyogre, and Rayquaza's abilities were the first sight of these {{cat|Abilities with effects on weather conditions|weather-changing ones}} in the games. This makes them the first legendary trio not to share one universal ability. <br />
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Unlike Pokémon with moves like {{m|Sunny Day}} and {{m|Rain Dance}}, where the weather changes to another for only five turns, the abilities of the legendary trio cause their weather effect for the remainder of the battle, or until the weather is changed again in some way. Rayquaza's, however, only lasts as long as it remains active, and with its {{a|Air Lock}}, which removes the battle effects of any weather on the field, leaving it to just be a pretty-looking environmental effect.<br />
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They do not appear to have a [[trio master|master]], though Rayquaza seems to serve as the leader of the three internally. It was shown quelling a violent confrontation between the other two Pokémon during the events of {{game|Emerald}}.<br />
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This, the [[Tao trio]] and the [[Kami trio]] are the only legendary trios whose members do not all have the same [[Base stats|base stat]] total; Groudon and Kyogre share a total of 670, while Rayquaza's is 680. This fits with its role as a mediator between Groudon and Kyogre.<br />
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==Similar movesets ==<br />
{| align="center" style="background: #00A000; {{roundy}}; border: 5px solid #2ED42E"<br />
|- align="center"<br />
! style="background:#{{emerald color dark}}; {{roundytl|5px}};" | {{color2|{{emerald color light}}|Level|Lv.}}<br />
| style="background:#{{water color}}" | [[File:382.png]]<br>{{pcolor|Kyogre|47587e}}<br><small>{{typecolor|Water}}</small><br />
| style="background:#{{ground color}}" | [[File:383.png]]<br>{{pcolor|Groudon|49422b}}<br><small>{{typecolor|Ground}}</small><br />
| style="background:#{{dragon color}}; {{roundytr|5px}};" | [[File:384.png]]<br>{{pcolor|Rayquaza|322661}}<br><small>{{typecolor|Dragon}}{{typecolor|Flying}}</small><br />
|- align="center"<br />
| align="right" style="background:#{{emerald color dark}}" | {{color|2ED42E|Start}}<br />
| style="background:#{{water color light}}" | '''{{mcolor|Water Pulse|{{water color dark}}}}'''<br />
| style="background:#{{ground color light}}" | '''{{mcolor|Mud Shot|{{ground color dark}}}}'''<br />
| style="background:#{{dragon color light}}" | '''{{mcolor|Twister|{{dragon color dark}}}}'''<br />
|- align="center"<br />
| align="right" style="background:#{{emerald color dark}}" | {{color|2ED42E|5}}<br />
| colspan="3" style="background:#{{normal color light}}" | ''{{mcolor|Scary Face|{{normal color dark}}}}''<br />
|- align="center"<br />
| align="right" style="background:#{{emerald color dark}}" | {{color|2ED42E|15}}<br />
| style="background:#{{normal color light}}" | {{mcolor|Body Slam|{{normal color dark}}}}<br />
| style="background:#{{fire color light}}" | {{mcolor|Lava Plume|{{fire color dark}}}}<br />
| style="background:#{{dark color light}}" | {{mcolor|Crunch|{{dark color dark}}}}<br />
|- align="center"<br />
| align="right" style="background:#{{emerald color dark}}" | {{color|2ED42E|20}}<br />
| style="background:#{{water color light}}" | '''{{mcolor|Muddy Water|{{water color dark}}}}'''<br />
| style="background:#{{fighting color light}}" | {{mcolor|Hammer Arm|{{fighting color dark}}}}<br />
| style="background:#{{normal color light}}" | {{mcolor|Hyper Voice|{{normal color dark}}}}<br />
|- align="center"<br />
| align="right" style="background:#{{emerald color dark}}" | {{color|2ED42E|30}}<br />
| style="background:#{{water color light}}" | ''{{mcolor|Aqua Ring|{{water color dark}}}}''<br />
| colspan="2" style="background:#{{psychic color light}}" | ''{{mcolor|Rest|{{psychic color dark}}}}''<br />
|- align="center"<br />
| align="right" style="background:#{{emerald color dark}}" | {{color|2ED42E|35}}<br />
| style="background:#{{ice color light}}" | {{mcolor|Ice Beam|{{ice color dark}}}}<br />
| style="background:#{{ground color light}}" | '''{{mcolor|Earthquake|{{ground color dark}}}}'''<br />
| style="background:#{{flying color light}}" | '''{{mcolor|Air Slash|{{flying color dark}}}}'''<br />
|- align="center"<br />
| align="right" style="background:#{{emerald color dark}}" | {{color|2ED42E|45}}<br />
| colspan="3" style="background:#{{rock color light}}" | {{mcolor|AncientPower|{{rock color dark}}}}<br />
|- align="center"<br />
| align="right" style="background:#{{emerald color dark}}" | {{color|2ED42E|50}}<br />
| style="background:#{{water color light}}" | '''{{mcolor|Water Spout|{{water color dark}}}}'''<br />
| style="background:#{{fire color light}}" | {{mcolor|Eruption|{{fire color dark}}}}<br />
| style="background:#{{dragon color light}}" | '''{{mcolor|Outrage|{{dragon color dark}}}}'''<br />
|- align="center"<br />
| align="right" style="background:#{{emerald color dark}}" | {{color|2ED42E|60}}<br />
| style="background:#{{psychic color light}}" | ''{{mcolor|Calm Mind|{{psychic color dark}}}}''<br />
| style="background:#{{fighting color light}}" | ''{{mcolor|Bulk Up|{{fighting color dark}}}}''<br />
| style="background:#{{dragon color light}}" | ''{{mcolor|Dragon Dance|{{dragon color dark}}}}''<br />
|- align="center"<br />
| align="right" style="background:#{{emerald color dark}}" | {{color|2ED42E|65}}<br />
| style="background:#{{water color light}}" | '''{{mcolor|Aqua Tail|{{water color dark}}}}'''<br />
| style="background:#{{ground color light}}" | '''{{mcolor|Earth Power|{{ground color dark}}}}'''<br />
| style="background:#{{flying color light}}" | '''{{mcolor|Fly|{{flying color dark}}}}'''<br />
|- align="center"<br />
| align="right" style="background:#{{emerald color dark}}" | {{color|2ED42E|75}}<br />
| style="background:#{{ice color light}}" | {{mcolor|Sheer Cold|{{ice color dark}}}}<br />
| style="background:#{{ground color light}}" | {{mcolor|Fissure|{{ground color dark}}}}<br />
| style="background:#{{normal color light}}" | {{mcolor|ExtremeSpeed|{{normal color dark}}}}<br />
|- align="center"<br />
| align="right" style="background:#{{emerald color dark}}" | {{color|2ED42E|80}}<br />
| style="background:#{{normal color light}}" | {{mcolor|Double-Edge|{{normal color dark}}}}<br />
| style="background:#{{grass color light}}" | {{mcolor|SolarBeam|{{grass color dark}}}}<br />
| style="background:#{{normal color light}}" | {{mcolor|Hyper Beam|{{normal color dark}}}}<br />
|- align="center"<br />
| align="right" style="background:#{{emerald color dark}}" | {{color|2ED42E|90}}<br />
| style="background:#{{water color light}}" | '''{{mcolor|Hydro Pump|{{water color dark}}}}'''<br />
| style="background:#{{fire color light}}" | {{mcolor|Fire Blast|{{fire color dark}}}}<br />
| style="background:#{{dragon color light}}" | '''{{mcolor|Dragon Pulse|{{dragon color dark}}}}'''<br />
|-<br />
| colspan="4" style="background:#{{emerald color dark}}; color: #{{emerald color light}}; {{roundybottom|5px}};"| <small>Moves in '''bold''' are {{color2|2ED42E|Same-type attack bonus|STAB}}. Moves in ''italics'' do no damage.</small><br />
|}{{-}}<br />
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==Base stat comparison==<br />
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{{triostats|emerald|382|Kyogre|water|100|100|90|150|140|90|383|Groudon|ground|100|150|140|100|90|90|384|Rayquaza|dragon|105|150|90|150|90|95}}<br />
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==In the games==<br />
===Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire===<br />
In the [[Generation III]] Hoenn games, both Kyogre and Groudon appear in the [[Cave of Origin]], and after the defeat of the [[Elite Four]], the {{player}} can encounter Rayquaza at rest on the topmost floor of the [[Sky Pillar]].<br />
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<!--<gallery><br />
File:Cave Origin Sapphire.png |Kyogre<br />
File:Cave Origin Groudon.png|Groudon<br />
File:Sky Pillar Rayquaza RS.png|Rayquaza<br />
</gallery>--><br />
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===Pokémon Emerald===<br />
In the enhanced version of Ruby and Sapphire, Kyogre and Groudon both appear in alternating caves after beating the [[Elite Four]]: [[Marine Cave]] (on {{rt|105|Hoenn}}, {{rt|125|Hoenn}}, {{rt|127|Hoenn}}, or {{rt|129|Hoenn}}) for Kyogre and [[Terra Cave]] (on {{rt|114|Hoenn}}, {{rt|115|Hoenn}}, {{rt|116|Hoenn}}, or {{rt|118|Hoenn}}) for Groudon. Rayquaza appears atop the [[Sky Pillar]] after calming Kyogre and Groudon in [[Sootopolis City]], and is obtainable before the defeat of the [[Elite Four]].<br />
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<!--<gallery><br />
File:Marine Cave Kyogre.png|Kyogre<br />
File:Terra Cave Groudon.png|Groudon<br />
File:Sky Pillar Rayquaza E.png|Rayquaza<br />
</gallery>--><br />
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===Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver===<br />
All members of the weather trio can be obtained in the [[Embedded Tower]] after beating the [[Elite Four]] for the second time and defeating {{ga|Red}}. Kyogre is obtainable in HeartGold, and Groudon is obtainable in SoulSilver. Once both Kyogre and Groudon are in one game, the {{player}} gets an opportunity to catch Rayquaza.<br />
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<gallery><br />
File:Embedded Tower Kyogre.png|Kyogre<br />
File:Embedded Tower Groudon.png|Groudon<br />
File:Embedded Tower Rayquaza.png|Rayquaza<br />
</gallery><br />
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==Trivia==<br />
* The [[List of Pokémon by color|colors]] of the three members of weather trio are the {{wp|RGB color model|additive primary colors of light}}.<br />
* No member of the weather trio has a [[signature move]]. They do, however, have "signature [[Ability|Abilities]]".<br />
** However, as of Generation V, Groudon and Kyogre are no longer the only Pokémon with their respective abilities, due to {{p|Vulpix}}, {{p|Ninetales}}, and {{p|Politoed}}'s obtaining {{a|Drought}} and {{a|Drizzle}} as their hidden abilities, respectively.<br />
* Rayquaza is the only member not to learn an [[One-hit knockout move|OHKO]] move naturally.<br />
* Kyogre is the only member of this trio to be encountered after the main story line of [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Red Rescue Team and Blue Rescue Team|Pokémon Mystery Dungeon]].<br />
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{{Legendary trios}}<br />
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[[de:Wetter-Legenden]]<br />
[[it:Trio meteo]]<br />
[[ja:超古代ポケモン]]</div>Phoenixonhttps://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Rayquaza_(Pok%C3%A9mon)&diff=1626496Rayquaza (Pokémon)2012-03-15T16:21:44Z<p>Phoenixon: /* Trivia */</p>
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<div>{{PokémonPrevNextHead | species=Rayquaza | prev=Groudon | next=Jirachi | prevnum=383 | nextnum=385 | type=dragon| type2=flying}}<br />
{{PokémonInfobox|<br />
name=Rayquaza |<br />
jname=レックウザ |<br />
tmname=Rayquaza |<br />
art=RS |<br />
size=250px |<br />
pron=<sc>rei-kwei-zah</sc> |<br />
ndex=384 |<br />
hdex=200 |<br />
fbrow=210 |<br />
typen=2 |<br />
type1=Dragon |<br />
type2=Flying |<br />
species=Sky High |<br />
height-ftin=23'00" |<br />
height-m=7.0 |<br />
weight-lbs=455.2 |<br />
weight-kg=206.5 |<br />
abilityn=1 |<br />
ability1=Air Lock |<br />
egggroupn=1 |<br />
egggroup1=Undiscovered |<br />
egggroup2= |<br />
eggcycles=120 |<br />
evat=2|<br />
evsa=1|<br />
expyield=220 |<br />
lv100exp=1,250,000 |<br />
gendercode=255|<br />
color=Green |<br />
catchrate=3 |<br />
body=02 |<br />
pokefordex=rayquaza |<br />
generation=3 |<br />
footnotes=}}<br />
'''Rayquaza''' ([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese]]: '''レックウザ''' ''Rayquaza'') is a dual-type {{2t|Dragon|Flying}} [[legendary Pokémon]].<br />
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It is not known to [[evolution|evolve]] into or from any other Pokémon. <br />
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In {{game|Emerald}}, it serves to end the conflict between {{p|Kyogre}} and {{p|Groudon}} when [[Team Magma]]'s leader [[Maxie]] and [[Team Aqua]]'s leader [[Archie]] awakened them.<br />
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Rayquaza is the version mascot of {{game|Emerald}}, appearing on the boxart of the game.<br />
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Along with Kyogre and Groudon, Rayquaza is a part of the [[Weather trio]], serving as its [[trio master]].<br />
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==Biology==<br />
===Physiology===<br />
Rayquaza is a large, green, flying serpentine-like creature with red-tipped, rudder-like wings on its shoulders and down its body, and similarly-patterned fins on the tip of its tail. Yellow rings run across the length of Rayquaza's body and it has an additional yellow ring on top of its head. Rayquaza has two limbs with three-clawed carpals, and two long, flat, horn-like structures on its head, with two smaller horns below them. Rayquaza appears to have a prominent gumline, with only two discernible fangs on the tip of its upper snout, the other protrusions in its mouth apparently from pointed gums. It has small, yellow eyes with black pupils. Its eyes and markings resemble those of both {{p|Kyogre}} and {{p|Groudon}}.<br />
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====Gender differences====<br />
Rayquaza is a genderless species.<br />
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====Special abilities====<br />
It is notable for its ability to [[trio master|soothe]] the other members of the [[Weather trio]], when angered. Rayquaza is capable of using various elemental attacks that it shoots from its mouth and are incredibly ruinous in power. Rayquaza can negate the effects of the weather. Since Rayquaza is a {{type2|Dragon}} Pokémon, it can learn {{m|Draco Meteor}}. Because of its slim and coiling structure, Rayquaza can fly up to blinding speeds and maneuver with ease despite this.<br />
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===Behavior===<br />
Rayquaza constantly flies around the globe in the ozone layer, stopping and descending only to land on the peak of the Sky Pillar to rest. It is extremely territorial and will attack any intruders of its home, going to great lengths to destroy them. Due to the fact that it can calm the other members of [[Weather trio|its trio]], it can be seen to be considered a leader and calm.<br />
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===Habitat===<br />
[[File:Rare.gif|right|frame|{{DL|List of Pokémon by habitat|Rare Pokémon}}]]<br />
Rayquaza usually lives high in the {{wp|ozone layer}}, but may come to rest on [[Sky Pillar]], [[Sky Tower Summit]], [[Sky Stairway]], or in the [[Embedded Tower]]. Its favorite air component is ozone, and known to discharge the component when it hibernates. It also, on occasion, flies the world's skies when disturbed.<br />
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===Diet===<br />
{{main|Pokémon food}}<br />
Rayquaza consumes water particles in the atmosphere.<br />
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==In the anime==<br />
[[File:Rayquaza movie 7.png|thumb|275px|right|Rayquaza in the anime]]<br />
===Major appearances===<br />
{{mov|Rayquaza|Rayquaza|7}} first appears in ''[[M07|Destiny Deoxys]]''. It fights against {{mov|Deoxys}}, believing it to be invading the Sky High Pokémon's territory when Deoxys was in fact looking for its friend, another Deoxys.<br />
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===Minor appearances===<br />
A Rayquaza had a cameo appearance at the beginning introduction of ''[[M09|Pokémon Ranger and the Temple of the Sea]]'', where it ended up captured by Team Rocket operatives.<br />
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In ''[[DP043|Malice In Wonderland!]]'', a Rayquaza appeared under ownership of [[Cynthia]], but as an illusion created by {{p|Mismagius}}. When Mismagius fuses with Rayquaza, it becomes the same color as the Mismagius, making it look like a shiny Rayquaza.<br />
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A real Rayquaza appeared in its anime episode debut in outer space in ''[[DP142|Where No Togepi Has Gone Before!]]'', where it used {{m|Hyper Beam}} on the rocket ship Ash and co. and Team Rocket were on, presumably protecting its territory.<br />
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A Rayquaza had a cameo appearance at the beginning of ''[[M10|The Rise of Darkrai]]'' and ''[[M13|Zoroark: Master of Illusions]]''.<br />
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==In the manga==<br />
[[File:PS261.png|thumb|Rayquaza in [[Pokémon Adventures]]]]<br />
===Pokémon Adventures===<br />
To stop the battle between Kyogre and Groudon, [[Wally]] and [[Norman]] trained at the [[Sky Tower]] and woke up Rayquaza. Five years earlier, {{adv|Ruby}}'s victory over a {{p|Salamence}} was the reason Norman was banned from the Gym Leader test as the wounded Salamence rampaged in a lab, accidentally letting Rayquaza, who was in captivity at that time, free. Having been ordered to recapture Rayquaza in the five years he was prohibited from attaining a Gym Leader position, Norman attended the [[Mossdeep Space Center]] and scrutinized its tracks, finally discovering that it slumbered atop the [[Sky Pillar]] when it wasn't scouring beyond Earth's atmosphere. With [[Wally]]'s help, he was able to awaken and take command of Rayquaza, using it to calm {{p|Groudon}} and {{p|Kyogre}} in conjunction with Ruby's {{DL|Legendary artifacts|Red Orb|Red}} and {{DL|Legendary artifacts|Blue Orb}}s. When Norman fell under the strain of controlling Rayquaza without a proper medium, it escaped once again, and has not been seen since.<br />
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==In the TCG==<br />
{{main|Rayquaza (TCG)}}<br />
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==Other appearances==<br />
===[[Super Smash Bros. Brawl]]===<br />
Rayquaza appears in [[the Subspace Emissary]] mode as a boss. After {{smw|Diddy Kong}} lands on a mysterious island, Rayquaza lunges out of the water and snatches him, furious from being disrupted. Just as it is about to eat him, a ship suddenly crash-lands and smashes onto the beach. Out jumps {{smw|Fox McCloud|Fox}}, who deflects Rayquaza's {{m|Dragon Pulse}} back at it. Rayquaza collapses into the water, but not for long, as it launches back out, engaging in battle against Fox and Diddy. Later, it is fought in the Great Maze level again and can be fought in the Boss Battles after the storyline is beaten.<br />
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====Trophy Information====<br />
''A Sky High Pokémon. It normally resides high up in the ozone layer where it flies endlessly, so it is rarely seen. However, when {{p|Groudon}} and {{p|Kyogre}} began to fight, it appeared to calm them down. It has the ability {{a|Air Lock}}, which blocks all weather-condition effects. It has exceedingly strong abilities, and its attack power is especially remarkable.''<br />
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==Game data==<br />
===NPC appearances===<br />
[[File:RayquazaSSBB.jpg|right|thumb|Rayquaza, as it appears in Super Smash Bros. Brawl]]<br />
* [[Pokémon Pinball: Ruby & Sapphire]]: Rayquaza is the focus of the third and final Bonus Field. It can only be challenged after capturing {{p|Groudon}} or {{p|Kyogre}} and will then join the circuit of bonus fields. Rayquaza will bounce along from left to right, allowing the ball to roll under it if it is up. It will sometimes use {{m|Thunder}} to paralyze the ball if it is not moving fast enough, though it does stay still while it is unleashing the attack. Rayquaza will also sometimes use {{m|ExtremeSpeed}} to create two tornadoes that cause the ball to fly up into the air for several seconds if contact is made. Rayquaza must be hit 15 times in three minutes to win. After beating the round twice, Rayquaza will be captured.<br />
* [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Red Rescue Team and Blue Rescue Team|Pokémon Mystery Dungeon]]: Rayquaza acts as the final boss, living on the [[Sky Tower]]. After it is defeated, Rayquaza helps save the {{pkmn|world}} from a meteor. After the credits roll, the player can re-battle Rayquaza to recruit it.<br />
* {{ga|Pokémon Ranger}}: Rayquaza can be captured in a bonus mission after the credits.<br />
* [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time and Explorers of Darkness]]: Rayquaza is the guardian of the [[Seven Treasures|Sky Melodica]].<br />
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===Pokédex entries===<br />
{{Dex<br />
|type=dragon<br />
|type2=flying<br />
|gen=3<br />
|rubydex=Rayquaza lived for hundreds of millions of years in the earth's ozone layer, never descending to the ground. This Pokémon appears to feed on water and particles in the atmosphere.<br />
|sapphiredex=Rayquaza is said to have lived for hundreds of millions of years in the earth's ozone layer, above the clouds. Its existence had been completely unknown because it lived so high in the sky.<br />
|emeralddex=A Pokémon that flies endlessly in the ozone layer. It is said it would descend to the ground if {{p|Kyogre}} and {{p|Groudon}} were to fight.<br />
|frlgdex=It has lived for hundreds of millions of years in the ozone layer. Its flying form looks like a meteor.<br />
|dpptdex=It cannot be seen from ground level since it lives far up above the clouds in the ozone layer.<br />
|hgssdex=It flies in the ozone layer, way up high in the sky. Until recently, no one had ever seen it.<br />
|bwdex=It cannot be seen from ground level since it lives far up above the clouds in the ozone layer.<br />
}}<br />
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===Game locations===<br />
{{Availability|<br />
type=dragon |<br />
type2=flying |<br />
gen=3 |<br />
rsrarity=One |<br />
rsarea=[[Sky Pillar]] |<br />
erarity=One |<br />
earea=[[Sky Pillar]] |<br />
frlgex=rse|<br />
dparea=[[Pal Park]] |<br />
ptarea=[[Pal Park]] |<br />
gen4ex=pal|<br />
hgssrarity=One |<br />
hgssarea=[[Embedded Tower]] <small>(requires {{DL|Legendary artifacts|Jade Orb}})</small> |<br />
palarea=Field |<br />
gen5ex=none |<br />
bwrarity=None |<br />
bwarea={{DL|List of Pokémon Global Link promotions|Rayquaza|Dream World event}}<br />
}}<br />
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====In side games====<br />
{{SidegameAvail<br />
|type=Dragon<br />
|type2=Flying<br />
|pinballrs=Bonus Field<br />
|trozei=Random Agent Cards<br>[[Mr. Who's Den]]<br />
|md=[[Sky Tower Summit]] (9F)<br />
|md2=[[Sky Stairway]] (Summit)<br />
|ranger=[[Fiore Temple]] (during mission)<br />
|pokepark=[[Flower Zone]]<br />
|rumble2=Tower: All ({{DL|Pokémon Rumble Blast|Legendary Boss Pokémon|Random Legendary Encounter}})<br />
}}<br />
<br />
====In events====<br />
{{eventAvail/h|type=dragon|type2=flying}}<br />
{{eventAvail|List of Pokémon Global Link promotions#Rayquaza|Global Link Rayquaza|Korean PGL|2011|50}}<br />
{{eventAvail|List of Japanese Nintendo event Pokémon in 2012#15th anniversary Rayquaza|15th anniversary Rayquaza|Japan|2012|100}}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
===Held items===<br />
{{HeldItems|type=dragon|type2=flying<br />
|event1=Dragon Scale|event1type=Evolution-inducing held item|event1rar=100<br />
|event2=Life Orb|event2type=In-battle effect item|event2rar=100<br />
}}<br />
<br />
===Stats===<br />
====Base stats====<br />
{{BaseStats|<br />
type=dragon |<br />
type2=flying |<br />
HP= 105 |<br />
Attack=150 |<br />
Defense=90 |<br />
SpAtk= 150 |<br />
SpDef= 90 |<br />
Speed= 95 }}<br />
<br />
====Pokéathlon stats====<br />
{{Pokéthlon<br />
|type=Dragon<br />
|type2=Flying<br />
|Speed=4<br />
|SpeedMax=5<br />
|Power=4<br />
|PowerMax=5<br />
|Technique=3<br />
|TechniqueMax=3<br />
|Stamina=4<br />
|StaminaMax=5<br />
|Jump=5<br />
|JumpMax=5<br />
}}<br />
<br />
===Type effectiveness===<br />
{{Type effectiveness|<br />
type1=Dragon|<br />
type2=Flying|<br />
Normal= 100 |<br />
Flying= 100 |<br />
Fighting= 50 |<br />
Ground= 0 |<br />
Rock= 200 |<br />
Bug= 50 |<br />
Poison= 100 |<br />
Ghost= 100 |<br />
Steel= 100 |<br />
<br />
Fire= 50 |<br />
Grass= 25 |<br />
Electric=100 |<br />
Psychic= 100 |<br />
Water= 50 |<br />
Ice= 400 |<br />
Dragon= 200 |<br />
Dark= 100 |<br />
notes=yes|<br />
flying=yes|<br />
newground=1}}<br />
<br />
===Learnset===<br />
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====<br />
{{learnlist/levelh|Rayquaza|Dragon|Flying|5|3}}<br />
{{learnlist/level5|Start|Twister|Dragon|Special|40|100|20||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/level5|5|Scary Face|Normal|Status|&mdash;|100|10}}<br />
{{learnlist/level5|15|Crunch|Dark|Physical|80|100|15}}<br />
{{learnlist/level5|20|Hyper Voice|Normal|Special|90|100|10}}<br />
{{learnlist/level5|30|Rest|Psychic|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|10}}<br />
{{learnlist/level5|35|Air Slash|Flying|Special|75|95|20||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/level5|45|AncientPower|Rock|Special|60|100|5}}<br />
{{learnlist/level5|50|Outrage|Dragon|Physical|120|100|10||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/level5|60|Dragon Dance|Dragon|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|20}}<br />
{{learnlist/level5|65|Fly|Flying|Physical|90|95|15||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/level5|75|ExtremeSpeed|Normal|Physical|80|100|5}}<br />
{{learnlist/level5|80|Hyper Beam|Normal|Special|150|90|5}}<br />
{{learnlist/level5|90|Dragon Pulse|Dragon|Special|90|100|10||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/levelf|Rayquaza|Dragon|Flying|5|3}}<br />
<br />
====By [[TM]]/[[HM]]====<br />
{{learnlist/tmh|Rayquaza|Dragon|Flying|5|3}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM01|Hone Claws|Dark|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|15}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM02|Dragon Claw|Dragon|Physical|80|100|15||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM05|Roar|Normal|Status|&mdash;|100|20}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM06|Toxic|Poison|Status|&mdash;|90|10}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM08|Bulk Up|Fighting|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|20}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM10|Hidden Power|Normal|Special|&mdash;|100|15}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM11|Sunny Day|Fire|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|5}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM13|Ice Beam|Ice|Special|95|100|10}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM14|Blizzard|Ice|Special|120|70|5}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM15|Hyper Beam|Normal|Special|150|90|5}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM17|Protect|Normal|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|10}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM18|Rain Dance|Water|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|5}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM21|Frustration|Normal|Physical|&mdash;|100|20}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM22|SolarBeam|Grass|Special|120|100|10}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM24|Thunderbolt|Electric|Special|95|100|15}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM25|Thunder|Electric|Special|120|70|10}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM26|Earthquake|Ground|Physical|100|100|10}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM27|Return|Normal|Physical|&mdash;|100|20}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM31|Brick Break|Fighting|Physical|75|100|15}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM32|Double Team|Normal|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|15}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM35|Flamethrower|Fire|Special|95|100|15}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM37|Sandstorm|Rock|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|10}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM38|Fire Blast|Fire|Special|120|85|5}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM39|Rock Tomb|Rock|Physical|50|80|10}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM40|Aerial Ace|Flying|Physical|60|&mdash;|20||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM42|Facade|Normal|Physical|70|100|20}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM44|Rest|Psychic|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|10}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM48|Round|Normal|Special|60|100|15}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM49|Echoed Voice|Normal|Special|40|100|15}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM50|Overheat|Fire|Special|140|90|5}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM52|Focus Blast|Fighting|Special|120|70|5}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM53|Energy Ball|Grass|Special|80|100|10}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM56|Fling|Dark|Physical|&mdash;|100|10}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM58|Sky Drop|Flying|Physical|60|100|10||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM59|Incinerate|Fire|Special|30|100|15}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM65|Shadow Claw|Ghost|Physical|70|100|15}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM68|Giga Impact|Normal|Physical|150|90|5}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM71|Stone Edge|Rock|Physical|100|80|5}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM73|Thunder Wave|Electric|Status|&mdash;|100|20}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM74|Gyro Ball|Steel|Physical|&mdash;|100|5}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM75|Swords Dance|Normal|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|30}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM77|Psych Up|Normal|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|10}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM78|Bulldoze|Ground|Physical|60|100|20}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM80|Rock Slide|Rock|Physical|75|90|10}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM82|Dragon Tail|Dragon|Physical|60|90|10||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM87|Swagger|Normal|Status|&mdash;|90|15}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM90|Substitute|Normal|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|10}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM94|Rock Smash|Fighting|Physical|40|100|15}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|HM02|Fly|Flying|Physical|90|95|15||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|HM03|Surf|Water|Special|95|100|15}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|HM04|Strength|Normal|Physical|80|100|15}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|HM05|Waterfall|Water|Physical|80|100|15}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|HM06|Dive|Water|Physical|80|100|10}}<br />
{{learnlist/tmf|Rayquaza|Dragon|Flying|5|3}}<br />
<br />
====By {{pkmn|breeding}}====<br />
{{learnlist/breedh|Rayquaza|dragon|flying|5|3}}<br />
{{learnlist/breed5null}}<br />
{{learnlist/breedf|Rayquaza|dragon|flying|5|3}}<br />
<br />
====By [[Move tutor|tutoring]]====<br />
{{learnlist/tutorh|Rayquaza|Dragon|Flying|5|3}}<br />
{{learnlist/tutor5|Draco Meteor|Dragon|Special|140|90|5||'''|yes}}<br />
{{learnlist/tutorf|Rayquaza|Dragon|Flying|5|3}}<br />
<br />
====By {{pkmn2|event}}s====<br />
{{learnlist/eventh|Rayquaza|Dragon|Flying|5|3}}<br />
{{learnlist/event5|[[List of Japanese Nintendo event Pokémon in 2012#15th anniversary Rayquaza|15th anniversary poll]]|V-create|Fire|Physical|180|95|5||}}<br />
{{learnlist/event5|[[List of Japanese Nintendo event Pokémon in 2012#Nobunaga's Black Rayquaza|Nobunaga's Black Rayquaza]]|Dragon Pulse|Dragon|Special|90|100|10||'''|70}}<br />
{{learnlist/eventf|Rayquaza|Dragon|Flying|5|3}}<br />
<br />
===Side game data===<br />
{{Sidegame|<br />
type=dragon |<br />
type2=flying |<br />
ndex=384 |<br />
pinballrs=Catch |<br />
Trozei=yes |<br />
rarity=Rare |<br />
Dungeon=yes |<br />
body=4 |<br />
rate=-10 |<br />
area=Stratos Lookout |<br />
P1=Like a star blazing in the sky, I shall help you! |<br />
P2=How is this possible? My health is reduced to a mere half? |<br />
P3=I've had enough... The ozone layer calls for my return... |<br />
PL=I've leveled up! The vast power of the skies fills me! |<br />
Partner=no |<br />
Ranger=yes |<br />
group=Dragon |<br />
assist=Flying |<br />
fieldpower=0 |<br />
field=None |<br />
loop=13 |<br />
MinEXP=600 |<br />
MaxEXP=- |<br />
browser=Rayquaza {{m|Outrage|rampages}} while spitting energy. It is said to be impossible to capture. |<br />
Dungeon2=yes |<br />
body2=4 |<br />
rate2=-10 |<br />
iq=D |<br />
rumble2=yes|<br />
rumble2attack=5|<br />
rumble2defense=4|<br />
rumble2speed=3|<br />
Pad=Rayquaza is a Zone Keeper. He protects the [[Granite Zone]] and the [[Flower Zone]]. He's also the Attraction Chief of {{DL|Attractions|Rayquaza's Balloon Panic}}. He values promises. |<br />
}}<br />
<br />
===Evolution===<br />
{{evobox<br />
|sprite1=384<br />
|name1=Rayquaza<br />
|type1-1=Dragon<br />
|type2-1=Flying}}<br />
<br />
===Sprites===<br />
{{Sprite|<br />
type=dragon|<br />
type2=flying|<br />
gen=3|<br />
gender=none|<br />
ndex=384|<br />
name=Rayquaza|<br />
}}<br />
<br />
==Trivia==<br />
* In Pokémon Emerald, Rayquaza appears to use {{m|Hyper Voice}} to calm down Groudon and Kyogre at Sootopolis. Rayquaza couldn't learn it in any Generation III game, but this was rectified in {{2v2|HeartGold|SoulSilver}} versions.<br />
* Rayquaza has the highest {{stat|Attack}} and {{stat|Special Attack}} of all {{type|Flying}} Pokémon.<br />
** Rayquaza has the highest Attack of all {{type|Dragon}} Pokémon, tied with {{p|Zekrom}}, and the highest Special Attack of all Dragon-type Pokémon, tied with {{p|Dialga}}, {{p|Palkia}} and {{p|Reshiram}}.<br />
* Rayquaza is the [[List of Pokémon by height|tallest]] [[legendary Pokémon]].<br />
**This might be because of its length, as like any other snake-shaped Pokémon.<br />
* Rayquaza is the only legendary Pokémon that can be caught at a higher level than the [[Elite Four]]'s Pokémon before defeating the [[Elite Four (Hoenn)|Elite Four]]. This only happens in {{game|Emerald}}.<br />
* It is said that Rayquaza will come if {{p|Groudon}} and {{p|Kyogre}} are battling, but it didn't appear in the episodes ''[[AG097|Gaining Groudon]]'' and ''[[AG098|The Scuffle of Legends]]''.<br />
** However, in Pokémon Emerald the player must get Rayquaza to stop the battle of Groudon and Kyogre in Sootopolis manually. This may mean that Rayquaza can only calm the two down but may not know when and where they are fighting.<br />
* Out of the [[weather trio]], it is the only one with a secondary [[type]].<br />
* Rayquaza is the only Pokémon with a [[base stats|base stat total]] of {{cat|Pokémon with a base stat total of 680|680}} that does not share the specific stat numbers with another Pokémon: {{p|Mewtwo}}, {{p|Lugia}}, and {{p|Ho-Oh}} all have a 90-90-106-110-130-154 distribution in different orders, while the [[creation trio]], as well as {{p|Reshiram}} and {{p|Zekrom}}, all have 90-100-100-120-120-150.<br />
* Rayquaza is the only Pokémon with a base stat total of 680 that does not have a [[signature move]].<br />
* Rayquaza was the most voted Pokémon of all pre-[[Generation V]] Pokémon in the {{pmin|South Korea|Korean}} [[Pokémon Global Link]] [[List of Pokémon Global Link promotions#Rayquaza|promotion]] poll.<br />
** Rayquaza was also the most voted on the [[List of Japanese Nintendo event Pokémon in 2012#15th anniversary Rayquaza|15th anniversary poll]], which was for the [[version mascots]] of the [[version|main series]] Pokémon games.<br />
* Rayquaza is misspelled as "Rayquayza" in [[Pokémon Team Turbo]] in every possible instance.<br />
<br />
===Origin===<br />
Rayquaza is most likely based on the Hebrew legends of {{wp|Ziz}}, the unconquerable primal master of the sky. Its counterparts were {{wp|Behemoth}} and {{wp|Leviathan}}. Rayquaza's appearance also draws inspiration from other creatures of myth such as the {{wp|Asian dragon}} and ''{{wp|lindworm}}''.<br />
<br />
====Name origin====<br />
Rayquaza's name is likely a combination of ''{{wp|ray (geometry)|ray}}'' and ''{{wp|quasar}}''. Although Rayquaza's Romanized name suggests its Japanese name is meant to be the same as its English name, it could be a combination of 烈 ''retsu'' (violent or furious), 空 ''kū'' (sky), and 座 ''za'' (seat or location), which as a whole can be taken as "one that sits in the ferocious heavens".<br />
<br />
==In other languages==<br />
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|-<br />
|<br />
{| class="roundy" style="background: #{{dragon color light}};"<br />
|- align=center<br />
! class="roundytl" | Language<br />
! Name<br />
! class="roundytr" | Name Origin<br />
|- style="background:#FFF;"<br />
| [[List of German Pokémon names|German]]<br />
| Rayquaza<br />
| <br />
|- style="background:#FFF;"<br />
| [[List of French Pokémon names|French]]<br />
| Rayquaza<br />
| <br />
|- style="background:#FFF;"<br />
| [[List of Korean Pokémon names|Korean]]<br />
| 레쿠쟈 ''Rekujya''<br />
| Transliteration of the Japanese name; from {{tt|裂空者/열공자 ''Yeolgongja''|who separates the sky}}<br />
|- style="background:#FFF;"<br />
| [[List of Chinese Pokémon names|Chinese]] ({{tt|Mandarin|Taiwan and mainland China}})<br />
| 烈空坐 ''Lièkōngzuò''<br />
| From its Japanese name. Can also be taken as "(one who) sits in the fierce heavens".<br />
|- style="background:#FFF;"<br />
| class="roundybl" | [[List of Chinese Pokémon names|Chinese]] ({{tt|Cantonese|Hong Kong}})<br />
| 烈空坐 ''Lihthūngjoh''<br />
| class="roundybr" | Same as Mandarin name.<br />
|}<br />
|-<br />
|}<br />
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<br />
==Related articles==<br />
* [[Weather trio]]<br />
* [[Rayquaza (movie 7)]]<br />
<br />
==External links==<br />
*[[wp:Rayquaza|Article on Wikipedia]]<br />
*[http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/gamemode/modea/modea09.html Rayquaza's encounter in The Subspace Emissary]<br />
<br />
==Notes==<br />
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[[Category:Legendary Pokémon obtainable before the Elite Four]]<br />
[[Category:Hoenn Legendary Pokémon]]<br />
[[Category:Trio masters]]<br />
[[Category:Version mascots]]<br />
[[Category:Legendary Trio Pokémon]]<br />
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<div>{{pokelinkback|068|Machamp|4}}<br />
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====<br />
{{learnlist/levelh|Machamp|Fighting|Fighting|4|1}}<br />
{{learnlist/level4|Start|Low Kick|Fighting|Physical|&mdash;|100|20|Tough|3||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/level4|Start|Leer|Normal|Status|&mdash;|100|30|Cool|2}}<br />
{{learnlist/level4|Start|Focus Energy|Normal|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|30|Cool|0}}<br />
{{learnlist/level4|7|Focus Energy|Normal|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|30|Cool|0}}<br />
{{learnlist/level4|10|Karate Chop|Fighting|Physical|50|100|25|Tough|3||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/level4|13|Foresight|Normal|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|40|Smart|1}}<br />
{{learnlist/level4|19|Seismic Toss|Fighting|Physical|&mdash;|100|20|Tough|3}}<br />
{{learnlist/level4|22|Revenge|Fighting|Physical|60|100|10|Tough|2||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/level4|25|Vital Throw|Fighting|Physical|70|&mdash;|10|Cool|2||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/level4|32|Submission|Fighting|Physical|80|80|25|Cool|3||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/level4|36|Wake-Up Slap|Fighting|Physical|60|100|10|Smart|0||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/level4|40|Cross Chop|Fighting|Physical|100|80|5|Cool|2||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/level4|44|Scary Face|Normal|Status|&mdash;|90|10|Tough|2}}<br />
{{learnlist/level4|51|DynamicPunch|Fighting|Physical|100|50|5|Cool|2||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/levelf|Machamp|Fighting|Fighting|4|1}}<br />
<br />
====By [[TM]]/[[HM]]====<br />
{{learnlist/tmh|Machamp|Fighting|Fighting|4|1}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm4|TM01|Focus Punch|Fighting|Physical|150|100|20|Tough|1||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm4|TM06|Toxic|Poison|Status|&mdash;|85|10|Smart|2}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm4|TM08|Bulk Up|Fighting|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|20|Beauty|0}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm4|TM10|Hidden Power|Normal|Special|&mdash;|100|15|Smart|1}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm4|TM11|Sunny Day|Fire|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|5|Beauty|2}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm4|TM15|Hyper Beam|Normal|Special|150|90|5|Cool|2}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm4|TM17|Protect|Normal|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|10|Cute|0}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm4|TM18|Rain Dance|Water|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|5|Tough|2}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm4|TM26|Earthquake|Ground|Physical|100|100|10|Tough|2}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm4|TM27|Return|Normal|Physical|&mdash;|100|20|Cute|2}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm4|TM28|Dig|Ground|Physical|80|100|10|Smart|1}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm4|TM31|Brick Break|Fighting|Physical|75|100|15|Cool|3||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm4|TM32|Double Team|Normal|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|15|Cool|2}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm4|TM35|Flamethrower|Fire|Special|95|100|15|Beauty|2}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm4|TM38|Fire Blast|Fire|Special|120|85|5|Beauty|2}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm4|TM39|Rock Tomb|Rock|Physical|50|80|10|Smart|2}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm4|TM42|Facade|Normal|Physical|70|100|20|Cute|2}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm4|TM43|Secret Power|Normal|Physical|70|100|20|Smart|2}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm4|TM44|Rest|Psychic|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|10|Cute|0}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm4|TM45|Attract|Normal|Status|&mdash;|100|15|Cute|2}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm4|TM46|Thief|Dark|Physical|40|100|10|Tough|0}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm4|TM52|Focus Blast|Fighting|Special|120|70|5|Cool|2||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm4|TM56|Fling|Dark|Physical|&mdash;|100|10|Tough|1}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm4|TM58|Endure|Normal|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|10|Tough|2}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm4|TM66|Payback|Dark|Physical|50|100|10|Cool|1}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm4|TM68|Giga Impact|Normal|Physical|150|90|5|Beauty|2}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm4|TM71|Stone Edge|Rock|Physical|100|80|5|Tough|2}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm4|TM78|Captivate|Normal|Status|&mdash;|100|20|Beauty|2}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm4|TM80|Rock Slide|Rock|Physical|75|90|10|Tough|3}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm4|TM82|Sleep Talk|Normal|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|10|Cute|3}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm4|TM83|Natural Gift|Normal|Physical|&mdash;|100|15|Cool|2}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm4|TM84|Poison Jab|Poison|Physical|80|100|20|Smart|2}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm4|TM87|Swagger|Normal|Status|&mdash;|90|15|Cute|2}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm4|TM90|Substitute|Normal|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|10|Smart|1}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm4|HM04|Strength|Normal|Physical|80|100|15|Tough|3}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm4|HM06|Rock Smash|Fighting|Physical|40|100|15|Tough|2||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm4|HM08|Rock Climb|Normal|Physical|90|85|20|Cool|2}}<br />
{{learnlist/tmf|Machamp|Fighting|Fighting|4|1}}<br />
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====By {{pkmn|breeding}}====<br />
{{learnlist/breedh|Machamp|Fighting|Fighting|4|1}}<br />
{{learnlist/breed4|{{MSP|107|Hitmonchan}}|Bullet Punch|Steel|Physical|40|100|30|Smart|2}}<br />
{{learnlist/breed4|{{MSP|106|Hitmonlee}}{{MSP|107|Hitmonchan}}{{MSP|237|Hitmontop}}{{MSP|296|Makuhita}}{{MSP|297|Hariyama}}{{MSP|391|Monferno}}<br>{{MSP|392|Infernape}}{{MSP|448|Lucario}}|Close Combat|Fighting|Physical|120|100|5|Smart|2||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/breed4|{{MSP|107|Hitmonchan}}{{MSP|237|Hitmontop}}{{MSP|448|Lucario}}|Counter|Fighting|Physical|&mdash;|100|20|Tough|2}}<br />
{{learnlist/breed4|{{MSP|122|Mr. Mime}}|Encore|Normal|Status|&mdash;|100|5|Cute|1}}<br />
{{learnlist/breed4|{{MSP|107|Hitmonchan}}{{MSP|126|Magmar}}{{MSP|467|Magmortar}}{{MSP|308|Medicham}}{{MSP|466|Electivire}}|Fire Punch|Fire|Physical|75|100|15|Beauty|2}}<br />
{{learnlist/breed4|{{MSP|107|Hitmonchan}}{{MSP|308|Medicham}}|Ice Punch|Ice|Physical|75|100|15|Beauty|2}}<br />
{{learnlist/breed4|{{MSP|122|Mr. Mime}}{{MSP|125|Electabuzz}}{{MSP|466|Electivire}}|Light Screen|Psychic|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|30|Beauty|2}}<br />
{{learnlist/breed4|{{MSP|096|Drowzee}}{{MSP|097|Hypno}}{{MSP|106|Hitmonlee}}{{MSP|122|Mr. Mime}}{{MSP|307|Meditite}}{{MSP|308|Medicham}}|Meditate|Psychic|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|40|Beauty|0}}<br />
{{learnlist/breed4|{{MSP|307|Meditite}}{{MSP|308|Medicham}}|Power Trick|Psychic|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|10|Cool|0|||HGSS}}<br />
{{learnlist/breed4|{{MSP|327|Spinda}}|Rock Slide|Rock|Physical|75|90|10|Tough|3|*}}<br />
{{learnlist/breed4|{{MSP|106|Hitmonlee}}{{MSP|237|Hitmontop}}|Rolling Kick|Fighting|Physical|60|85|15|Cool|3||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/breed4|{{MSP|296|Makuhita}}{{MSP|297|Hariyama}}|SmellingSalt|Normal|Physical|60|100|10|Smart|0}}<br />
{{learnlist/breed4|{{MSP|107|Hitmonchan}}{{MSP|125|Electabuzz}}{{MSP|466|Electivire}}{{MSP|308|Medicham}}{{MSP|467|Magmortar}}|ThunderPunch|Electric|Physical|75|100|15|Cool|2}}<br />
{{learnlist/breedf|Machamp|Fighting|Fighting|4|1}}<br />
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====By [[Move tutor|tutoring]]====<br />
{{learnlist/tutorh|Machamp|Fighting|Fighting|4|1}}<br />
{{learnlist/tutor4|Fire Punch|Fire|Physical|75|100|15|Beauty|2|||no|yes|yes}}<br />
{{learnlist/tutor4|Headbutt|Normal|Physical|70|100|15|Tough|3|||no|no|yes}}<br />
{{learnlist/tutor4|Helping Hand|Normal|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|20|Smart|1|||no|yes|yes}}<br />
{{learnlist/tutor4|Ice Punch|Ice|Physical|75|100|15|Beauty|2|||no|yes|yes}}<br />
{{learnlist/tutor4|Knock Off|Dark|Physical|20|100|20|Smart|3|||no|yes|yes}}<br />
{{learnlist/tutor4|Low Kick|Fighting|Physical|&mdash;|100|20|Tough|3||'''|no|no|yes}}<br />
{{learnlist/tutor4|Magic Coat|Psychic|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|15|Beauty|2|||no|no|yes}}<br />
{{learnlist/tutor4|Mud-Slap|Ground|Special|20|100|10|Cute|3|||no|yes|yes}}<br />
{{learnlist/tutor4|Snore|Normal|Special|40|100|15|Cute|3|||no|yes|yes}}<br />
{{learnlist/tutor4|Superpower|Fighting|Physical|120|100|5|Tough|2||'''|no|yes|yes}}<br />
{{learnlist/tutor4|ThunderPunch|Electric|Physical|75|100|15|Cool|2|||no|yes|yes}}<br />
{{learnlist/tutor4|Vacuum Wave|Fighting|Special|40|100|30|Smart|2||'''|no|yes|yes}}<br />
{{learnlist/tutorf|Machamp|Fighting|Fighting|4|1}}<br />
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====By a prior [[evolution]]====<br />
{{Learnlist/prevoh|Machamp|Fighting|Fighting|4|1}}<br />
{{Learnlist/prevo4null}}<br />
{{Learnlist/prevof|Machamp|Fighting|Fighting|4|1}}</div>Phoenixonhttps://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Stat&diff=1433658Talk:Stat2011-05-13T08:06:26Z<p>Phoenixon: /* Trading and level up */</p>
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<div>In the modifiers table, how about items such as Light Ball, Thick Club? [[User:Lahar|Lahar]] 23:16, 22 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
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Whats the maximum for the stats? [[User:Kpokefan|<span style="color:#C0C0C0;">'''K'''</span>]][[User talk:Kpokefan|<span style="color:#50C878;">'''P'''</span>]][[User:Kpokefan/Missions|<span style="color:#FFA6C9;">'''F'''</span>]] 01:32, 23 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Stat modification in battle. ==<br />
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okay, this is probably the best place to raise the question.<br />
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the stat altering moves change stats in "levels" of up to six. how much does each "level" change the stats by? If this is already listed somewhere, i don't know where to find it.<br />
:As far as I can tell, it works like this<nowiki>:</nowiki> Unmodified, stats are multiplied by 2/2 (with the exception of evasion and accuracy, which use 3/3 instead). Raising a stat by one level adds 1 to the numerator, whereas lowering by one level adds 1 to the denominator. This means that if you use a move like [[Growl]], the opponent's attack stat is multiplied by 2/3. Using it again changes 2/3 to 2/4, a.k.a. 1/2, and if you use it again it goes to 2/5, then 2/6, (or 1/3,) etc. --[[User:Legollama|Legollama]] 02:09, 25 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
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: Do negative stat changes in battle stay even after you switch out?[[User:Summerscythe|Summerscythe]] 20:34, 21 April 2009 (UTC)<br />
:: No. Switching out resets all stat alterations, +ve or -ve. - [[User:Solarys|Solarys]] 06:03, 23 May 2009 (UTC)<br />
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==Speed question==<br />
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If two Pokémon have the same speed stat in battle, what determines which will attack first? [[User:Lucario12|Lucario12]] 16:48, 2 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
:Good question. I'm sure that it will be chosen randomly. [[User:Tesh|<span style="color:#B7AD96;">'''TESH'''</span>]][[User_talk:Tesh|<span style="color:#B7AD96;">'''IGIGAS'''</span>]] 16:54, 2 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== All Stats Referred to Collectively ==<br />
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It's just an idea but I've noticed something. I've had the idea of instead of just reffering to a Pokemon's indivisual Stats; HP, Attack, Defense, Special Atk, Special Def and Speed, one could refer to all values that effect a battle.<br />
Observe;<br />
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'''S'''pecial Attack<br />
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'''H'''P<br />
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'''A'''ttack<br />
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'''D'''efense<br />
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'''S'''pecial Defense<br />
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'''E'''vasiveness<br />
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'''A'''ccuracy<br />
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'''S'''peed<br />
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Reading the first letter of each Stat forms the word "SHADSEAS" (or an alteration on the order). What do you think? Could it be a new lingo? [[User:Bttsstewart|Bttsstewart]] 17:33, 13 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
:Maybe, but the order seems pretty messy to me, as I'm more comfortable with the order HP-Atk-Def-SPAtk-SPDef-Spd. And&nbsp;remember to sign your comments on talk pages with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>), this was already mentioned in your welcome message (I hope you already read it through). <font color="#3fff00">'''UltimateSephiroth'''</font> <sup>([[User:UltimateSephiroth|<font color="#3f7f00">about me</font>]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|<font color="#3f7f00">chat</font>]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]])</sup> 17:15, 13 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
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Yeah, signed it now [[User:Bttsstewart|Bttsstewart]] 17:33, 13 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Evasion stages/modifiers? ==<br />
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What's the maximum % of evasion a PKMN can have? (I.e. 6 uses of Double Team, Bright Powder and Hail/Sandstorm ability bonus.)<br />
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Firstly, do the items/abilities stack with each other and stages linearly or diminishingly?<br />
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If linearly, it will be 96.67%: 6 stages (9/3 multiplier) = 66.67% evasion + 20% from ability boost + 10% from Bright Powder<br />
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If diminishingly with stages only, it's 76.67%: 66.67% + 6.67%{{tt|*|(100-66.67)×0.2)}} from ability boost + 3.33%{{tt|*|(100-66.67)×0.1)}} from Bright Powder<br />
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Or if diminishingly with each other AND stages, it's around 75~76%, depending on whether the item or ability is accounted for first.<br />
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- [[User:Solarys|Solarys]] 06:01, 23 May 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:I've been wondering this same thing, every time one of my Pokémon will get hit by {{m|Smokescreen}} or {{m|Sand-Attack}}, they miss more then half the time. But additional uses don't seem to make a huge difference. [[User:Derian|&#91;&#91;Derian&#93;&#93;]] 19:00, 16 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
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::They stack diminishingly. So the effects of bright powder/your ability get smaller the more you double team or minimize. However, they remain the same if you sand attack because accuray is a diffrent stat.<br />
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-[[User:Kin-Kyukon|Kin-Kyukon]]<br />
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== Incorrect formulas ==<br />
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Hey, sorry to revert the awesome-looking formula images in the [[Stats#Formula|#Formula]] section to text, but they're incorrect.<br />
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Generations {{gen|III}} and {{gen|IV}} have ''Nature ×'' '''at first''', when [[Stats#Nature|#Nature]] says this:<br />
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: ''After all other calculations are finished, the stat that the nature enhances will be 110% of what it would be without the nature, and the stat hindered will be 90% of its normal value.''<br />
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Generations {{gen|I}} and {{gen|II}} have ''EV / 2048'', when [[Effort values#Generation I]] says the formula is [[File:Statexp.png]].<br />
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And since I don't know how to make those awesome-looking formula images or even update them, I'll leave it to the uploader to modify them. The relevant files are StatFormulaHPGenI.png, StatFormulaGenI.png, StatFormulaHPGen3.png and StatFormulaGen3.png. [[User:Looce|Looce]] 17:09, 1 November 2009 (UTC)<br />
:If you can explicitly point out the corrections to be made, I can get on that for you. When I created the images I was going on the information I was provided with. If it is incorrect, I'm happy to provide a fix given that you tell me what to change it to. &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 23:51, 1 November 2009 (UTC)<br />
:: To the current revision of [[Stats#Formula|#Formula]]'s text. Namely,<br />
::* In Gen I and II, both formulas, update EV/2048 to be squareroot(EV + 3) / 4. Even better would be to say STAT EXP in Gen I and II's formulas instead of EV, because that's what they were known as back then.<br />
:::* So, like this, then?<br />
::: [[File:HP_calc.png]]<br />
::: Except that formula is wrong, because it has to be divided by 8, not 4 (the denominator on the bottom is 50, not 100.) My mistake.[[User:Ztobor|Ztobor]] 03:39, 26 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
::* In Gen III and IV, other status formula, move ''Nature ×'' to the end as '''× Nature'''<br />
:: Though it may be that the ''(... + 50 + ...) / 50'' thing for Gen I and II's HP was correct, even if it's in Gen III and IV as ''+ Level + 10'', so you don't really need to update that. Thanks in advance :) [[User:Looce|Looce]] 03:15, 2 November 2009 (UTC)<br />
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I disagree with changing the terms to the obsolete ones. It is confusing. I have been having problems with the term “effort points” in the last two generations, which I suspect are being used interchangeably for “effort values”. Note that the terms have been changed, but stick to one or the other from then on. Of course it would have been better to have not changed the terms at all, but what’s done is done. [[User:White Phoenix|White Phoenix]] 11:22, 22 November 2009 (UTC)<br />
:Just a little thing for Looce, um... Nature's first because of the transitive property. Notice the parentheticals? Plus, the correct answer is not gotten... '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#DAA520">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#C0C0C0">chidna</span>]]''' 10:06, 27 November 2009 (UTC)<br />
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In the first paragraph under Effort Values, before the formulas, shouldn’t that be “For every 4 ''effort points'' gained, a level 100 Pokémon will have 1 extra point in its stats”? And where did the 50 and 2048 come from? It isn’t mentioned anywhere on this page or in the Effort Values article. So which formula for determining the stat points is correct? 50+(EV/2048) or squareroot(EV+3)/4? [[User:White Phoenix|White Phoenix]] 13:54, 29 November 2009 (UTC)<br />
:: Whoever wrote the current Gen III-IV "Other Stats" formula left Level out of the calculations. Smogon's formula is Stat = (((2 * BaseStat + IV + (EV / 4)) * Level / 100 + 5) * Nature) [[User:Professor|The Professor]] 15:44, 27 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
::: It's been fixed, BTW. My bad. [[User:Ztobor|Ztobor]] 04:19, 14 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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===Now wait a minute!===<br />
Your stat calcs are wrong! Arceus with a 31 IV and 252 EV in HP will have 444 HP. Your calculation gives it a maximum of 394. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#DAA520">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#C0C0C0">chidna</span>]]''' 10:31, 27 November 2009 (UTC)<br />
:Do the math again. It gives exactly 444. --[[User:Miliko|Miliko]] 18:52, 9 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==Nature Factor==<br />
After some tests using the formula on Lv5 Pokémon on my Emerald Rom, I think the Nature factor on it is placed on the wrong place. It should not affect the final "5" on it. I specifically tested it on an Adamant Magikarp with perfect Atk IV, the formula gives me a stat of 8, and in the game it is 7 (I tested the IV with the IV Man). And in other Pokémon (Breloom IIRC), I had the same problem. Could someone test it? --[[User:Miliko|Miliko]] 18:52, 9 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
*You need to truncate (drop the decimals) before applying the nature boost. --[[User:Sp unit 262|sp unit 262]] 03:11, 1 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== What happens with Speed? ==<br />
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When two Pokémon's speeds are equal, they attack first with 50% probability each. If the speeds are a bit off, the probability does not jump to 100%. What actually happens? [[User:Ztobor|Ztobor]] 21:24, 14 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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*I noticed this too, especially in the older generations; I think the higher level one with a slightly lower speed may have a chance to go first. I don't remember seeing this happening in the battle tower/frontier, or link battles, though, even when there's a level difference. ~ [[User:Solarys|Solarys]] 12:16, 14 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:*Btw, you can easily test this on an emulator. Make sure you have a spare slot in your party, and an active Pokémon with non-damaging moves (optional, but preferred). First take note of your active Pokémon's speed, then go fight something with a similar level and base speed. Save a state when you enter the fight, then catch the enemy to see its speed. If it's off from yours by more than, say, 3 points, load your saved state and run; otherwise load your saved state, keep choosing different moves to see whether the faster one always goes first. ~ [[User:Solarys|Solarys]] 12:45, 14 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== In the anime ==<br />
A while back ago I made an edit about how Speed worked in the anime. Is it possible that we could make a seperate section or page that's about how stats work in the anime, because I can definitely see a bit of a difference. For example, Double Team normally raises evasion but it also seems to raise attack power in the anime because all of the clones can attack. --[[User:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma;background:black"><font color="red">'''Land'''</font>]][[User talk:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma;background:black"><small><font color="yellow">'''fish7'''</font></small></span></span>]]''' 00:04, 24 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Well? --[[User:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma;background:black"><font color="red">'''Land'''</font>]][[User talk:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma;background:black"><small><font color="yellow">'''fish7'''</font></small></span></span>]]''' 21:48, 4 November 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Can we please ==<br />
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Make a clear definition of stages? I only get the gist of it. --[[User talk:Venomoth|☯ ]][[User:Venomoth|*Ɣℯ№ӎօṫհ*]][[User talk:Venomoth| ☯]] 00:52, 5 November 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Stages are incredibly simple. Let's say my Pokémon has 420 Attack and it gets hit with FeatherDance (which lowers the Attack stat by two stages). The second stage of decrease is 1/2. 420 * .5 = 210, meaning that whenever damage calculations have to take my Attack stat into consideration, it will use 210 instead of 420.{{unsigned|Hexagon Theory }}<br />
::Thanks, I found some extra info on it. <span style="color:#91A3B0">—</span>[[User:Venomoth|<span style="color:black; font-size: 13pt">'''''V'''e<small>№</small>moth''</span>]][[User talk:Venomoth| ♦]] 09:33, 11 November 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Regarding calculation of successful hit in battle ==<br />
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"If P is greater than 1, the move will surely hit." But what if P isn't greater than 1? Surely it won't always miss... does anybody know anything about the formula that determines successful move hits? [[User:Hexagon Theory|Hexagon Theory]] 21:27, 10 November 2010 (UTC)<br />
:P is just the probability that the move will hit. Probabilities greater than 1 don't make any sense, so it's explicitly stated that they're the same as 1 (i.e., always hit). Once the probability is calculated, the game (in effect) generates a random number between 0 and 1; if P is greater than or equal to this number, the attack hits. --[[User:Minimiscience|Minimiscience]] 16:10, 11 November 2010 (UTC)<br />
::D'you know for certain that the random number is uniformly distributed?{{unsigned|Hexagon Theory}}<br />
:::Technically, no, I don't know that, though I would expect it to be (or, at least, as close to uniform as pseudo-randomness can get you). --[[User:Minimiscience|Minimiscience]] 19:49, 11 November 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Trading and level up ==<br />
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If you have a level 100 Scyther, with a speed of 300, and trade with metal coat, than wouldn't it have a higher speed than a scizor level 100 can have?(its highest according to the sat calculation is 251, and I only used this as an example.) Also, what if you had a level 100 Eevee(with a speed of 229, it's highest possible speed), and for example, you evolve it into a Jolteon, it will still have less than the minimum speed a level 100 Jolteon can have, so how does this work? Do the stats get reset? [[User:Phoenixon|Phoenixon]] 08:06, 13 May 2011 (UTC) <br />
:Stats are always recalculated upon evolution. <span class="sc">[[User:Werdnae|<span style="color:#2D4B98;">Werdnae</span>]]</span> <small>[[User talk:Werdnae|<span style="color:#009000;">(talk)</span>]]</small> 22:49, 12 May 2011 (UTC)</div>Phoenixonhttps://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Pickup_(Ability)&diff=1433642Pickup (Ability)2011-05-13T07:20:53Z<p>Phoenixon: /* Outside of battle */</p>
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<div>{{AbilityInfobox<br />
|name=Pickup<br />
|jpname=ものひろい<br />
|jptrans=Picking Up Things<br />
|jptranslit=Monohiroi<br />
|colorscheme=items<br />
|gen=3<br />
|text3=May pick up items.<br />
|text4=The Pokémon may pick up items.<br />
|text5=The Pokémon may pick up items.<br />
}}<br />
'''Pickup''' (Japanese: '''ものひろい''' ''Picking Up Things'') is an [[Ability]] introduced in [[Generation III]]. Ten {{OBP|Pokémon|species}} have this Ability.<br />
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==Effect==<br />
===In battle===<br />
====Generation III to IV====<br />
Pickup has no effect during battle.<br />
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====Generation V====<br />
When an opponent or ally uses a held [[berry]] or a held one-time use item, Pokémon with Pickup gain the used berry or item if they are not already holding an item. A Pokémon with Pickup can also gain an item thrown at it using {{m|Fling}}. In [[double battle|double]] and [[triple battle]]s if more than one Pokémon have Pickup, then only the faster Pokémon will pick up used items.<br />
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===Outside of battle===<br />
Pickup allows the player to receive free items. After a battle, any Pokémon on the team that has this Ability and is not already holding an item has a 10% chance of picking up an item, even if the Pokemon wasn't used in battle. It can be retrieved through the normal means of taking a held item.<br />
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====Items received====<br />
=====Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire=====<br />
Abilities first appeared in {{game|Ruby and Sapphire|s}}. These are the items that Pokémon with this Ability may pick up:<br />
{| {{bluetable|background: white; width:15%}}<br />
|- style="background: #{{items color}};"<br />
! Item<br />
! Rarity<br />
|-<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Super Potion}}<br />
| 30%<br />
|-<br />
| [[Poké Ball#Generation I Poké Balls|Ultra Ball]]<br />
| rowspan= 6 | 10%<br />
|-<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Full Restore}}<br />
|-<br />
| {{DL|Status ailment healing item|Full Heal}}<br />
|-<br />
| {{DL|Valuable item|Nugget}}<br />
|-<br />
| {{DL|Revive|Revive}}<br />
|-<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|Rare Candy}}<br />
|-<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|Protein}}<br />
| 5%<br />
|-<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|PP Up}}<br />
| 4%<br />
|-<br />
| {{DL|Evolution-inducing held item|King's Rock}}<br />
| 1%<br />
|}<br />
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=====Pokémon Colosseum=====<br />
Like in Ruby and Sapphire, the Pokémon may pick up items after each battle. <br />
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=====Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen=====<br />
In {{game|FireRed and LeafGreen|s}}, the Ability focused on Berries, which are not as readily available in [[Kanto]] as they are in [[Hoenn]]:<br />
{| {{bluetable|background: white; width:15%}}<br />
|- style="background: #{{items color}};"<br />
! Item<br />
! Rarity<br />
|-<br />
| [[Oran Berry]]<br />
| 15%<br />
|-<br />
| [[Aspear Berry]]<br />
| rowspan= 6 | 10%<br />
|-<br />
| [[Cheri Berry]]<br />
|-<br />
| [[Chesto Berry]]<br />
|-<br />
| [[Pecha Berry]]<br />
|-<br />
| [[Persim Berry]]<br />
|-<br />
| [[Rawst Berry]]<br />
|-<br />
| {{DL|Valuable item|Nugget}}<br />
| rowspan= 4 | 5%<br />
|-<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|PP Up}}<br />
|-<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|Rare Candy}}<br />
|-<br />
| [[TM10]] ({{m|Hidden Power}})<br />
|-<br />
| [[Belue Berry]]<br />
| rowspan= 5 | 1%<br />
|-<br />
| [[Durin Berry]]<br />
|-<br />
| [[Pamtre Berry]]<br />
|-<br />
| [[Spelon Berry]]<br />
|-<br />
| [[Watmel Berry]]<br />
|}<br />
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=====Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness=====<br />
The Ability may obtain Full Heals, Super Potions and Great Balls, regardless of the user's level, as well as Ultra Balls and Rare Candy if the user is at or above level 25.<br />
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=====Pokémon Emerald=====<br />
In {{game|Emerald}}, the Ability was changed to be affected by the Pokémon's level:<br />
{| {{bluetable|background: white; width: 100%}}<br />
|- style="background: #{{items color}};"<br />
! Level<br />
! 30%<br />
! colspan=6 | 10%<br />
! 5%<br />
! 3%<br />
! colspan=2 | 1% <br />
|-<br />
| 1-10<br />
| [[Potion]]<br />
| {{DL|Status ailment healing item|Antidote}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Super Potion}}<br />
| {{DL|Poké Ball|Great Ball}}<br />
| [[Repel]]<br />
| [[Escape Rope]]<br />
| {{DL|Battle item|X Attack}}<br />
| {{DL|Status ailment healing item|Full Heal}}<br />
| {{DL|Poké Ball|Ultra Ball}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Hyper Potion}}<br />
| {{DL|Valuable item|Nugget}}<br />
|-<br />
| 11-20<br />
| {{DL|Status ailment healing item|Antidote}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Super Potion}}<br />
| {{DL|Poké Ball|Great Ball}}<br />
| [[Repel]]<br />
| [[Escape Rope]]<br />
| {{DL|Battle item|X Attack}}<br />
| {{DL|Status ailment healing item|Full Heal}}<br />
| {{DL|Poké Ball|Ultra Ball}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Hyper Potion}}<br />
| {{DL|Valuable item|Nugget}}<br />
| {{DL|Evolution-inducing held item|King's Rock}}<br />
|-<br />
| 21-30<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Super Potion}}<br />
| {{DL|Poké Ball|Great Ball}}<br />
| [[Repel]]<br />
| [[Escape Rope]]<br />
| {{DL|Battle item|X Attack}}<br />
| {{DL|Status ailment healing item|Full Heal}}<br />
| {{DL|Poké Ball|Ultra Ball}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Hyper Potion}}<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|Rare Candy}}<br />
| {{DL|Evolution-inducing held item|King's Rock}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Full Restore}}<br />
|-<br />
| 31-40<br />
| {{DL|Poké Ball|Great Ball}}<br />
| [[Repel]]<br />
| [[Escape Rope]]<br />
| {{DL|Battle item|X Attack}}<br />
| {{DL|Status ailment healing item|Full Heal}}<br />
| {{DL|Poké Ball|Ultra Ball}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Hyper Potion}}<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|Rare Candy}}<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|Protein}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Full Restore}}<br />
| [[Ether]]<br />
|-<br />
| 41-50<br />
| [[Repel]]<br />
| [[Escape Rope]]<br />
| {{DL|Battle item|X Attack}}<br />
| {{DL|Status ailment healing item|Full Heal}}<br />
| {{DL|Poké Ball|Ultra Ball}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Hyper Potion}}<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|Rare Candy}}<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|Protein}}<br />
| [[Revive]]<br />
| [[Ether]]<br />
| {{DL|In-battle effect item|White Herb}}<br />
|-<br />
| 51-60<br />
| [[Escape Rope]]<br />
| {{DL|Battle item|X Attack}}<br />
| {{DL|Status ailment healing item|Full Heal}}<br />
| {{DL|Poké Ball|Ultra Ball}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Hyper Potion}}<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|Rare Candy}}<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|Protein}}<br />
| [[Revive]]<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|HP Up}}<br />
| {{DL|In-battle effect item|White Herb}}<br />
| {{TM|44|Rest}}<br />
|-<br />
| 61-70<br />
| {{DL|Battle item|X Attack}}<br />
| {{DL|Status ailment healing item|Full Heal}}<br />
| {{DL|Poké Ball|Ultra Ball}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Hyper Potion}}<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|Rare Candy}}<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|Protein}}<br />
| [[Revive]]<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|HP Up}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Full Restore}}<br />
| [[TM44]] ({{m|Rest}})<br />
| {{DL|Ether|Elixir}}<br />
|-<br />
| 71-80<br />
| {{DL|Status ailment healing item|Full Heal}}<br />
| {{DL|Poké Ball|Ultra Ball}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Hyper Potion}}<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|Rare Candy}}<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|Protein}}<br />
| [[Revive]]<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|HP Up}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Full Restore}}<br />
| {{DL|Revive|Max Revive}}<br />
| {{DL|Ether|Elixir}}<br />
| {{TM|01|Focus Punch}}<br />
|-<br />
| 81-90<br />
| {{DL|Poké Ball|Ultra Ball}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Hyper Potion}}<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|Rare Candy}}<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|Protein}}<br />
| [[Revive]]<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|HP Up}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Full Restore}}<br />
| {{DL|Revive|Max Revive}}<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|PP Up}}<br />
| {{TM|01|Focus Punch}}<br />
| {{DL|In-battle effect item|Leftovers}}<br />
|-<br />
| 91-100<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Hyper Potion}}<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|Rare Candy}}<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|Protein}}<br />
| [[Revive]]<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|HP Up}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Full Restore}}<br />
| {{DL|Revive|Max Revive}}<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|PP Up}}<br />
| {{DL|Ether|Max Elixir}}<br />
| {{DL|In-battle effect item|Leftovers}}<br />
| {{TM|26|Earthquake}}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
=====Pokémon Diamond, Pearl and Platinum=====<br />
The only changes in {{game2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}} were a few tweaks to the items received:<br />
{| {{bluetable|background: white; width: 100%}}<br />
|- style="background: #{{items color}};"<br />
! Level<br />
! 30%<br />
! colspan=6 | 10%<br />
! 5%<br />
! 3%<br />
! colspan=2 | 1% <br />
|-<br />
| 1-10<br />
| [[Potion]]<br />
| {{DL|Status ailment healing item|Antidote}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Super Potion}}<br />
| {{DL|Poké Ball|Great Ball}}<br />
| [[Repel]]<br />
| [[Escape Rope]]<br />
| {{DL|Status ailment healing item|Full Heal}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Hyper Potion}}<br />
| {{DL|Poké Ball|Ultra Ball}}<br />
| [[Revive]]<br />
| {{DL|Valuable item|Nugget}}<br />
|-<br />
| 11-20<br />
| {{DL|Status ailment healing item|Antidote}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Super Potion}}<br />
| {{DL|Poké Ball|Great Ball}}<br />
| [[Repel]]<br />
| [[Escape Rope]]<br />
| {{DL|Status ailment healing item|Full Heal}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Hyper Potion}}<br />
| {{DL|Poké Ball|Ultra Ball}}<br />
| [[Revive]]<br />
| {{DL|Valuable item|Nugget}}<br />
| {{DL|Evolution-inducing held item|King's Rock}}<br />
|-<br />
| 21-30<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Super Potion}}<br />
| {{DL|Poké Ball|Great Ball}}<br />
| [[Repel]]<br />
| [[Escape Rope]]<br />
| {{DL|Status ailment healing item|Full Heal}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Hyper Potion}}<br />
| {{DL|Poké Ball|Ultra Ball}}<br />
| [[Revive]]<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|Rare Candy}}<br />
| {{DL|Evolution-inducing held item|King's Rock}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Full Restore}}<br />
|-<br />
| 31-40<br />
| {{DL|Poké Ball|Great Ball}}<br />
| [[Repel]]<br />
| [[Escape Rope]]<br />
| {{DL|Status ailment healing item|Full Heal}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Hyper Potion}}<br />
| {{DL|Poké Ball|Ultra Ball}}<br />
| [[Revive]]<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|Rare Candy}}<br />
| {{evostone|Dusk Stone}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Full Restore}}<br />
| [[Ether]]<br />
|-<br />
| 41-50<br />
| [[Repel]]<br />
| [[Escape Rope]]<br />
| {{DL|Status ailment healing item|Full Heal}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Hyper Potion}}<br />
| {{DL|Poké Ball|Ultra Ball}}<br />
| [[Revive]]<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|Rare Candy}}<br />
| {{evostone|Dusk Stone}}<br />
| {{evostone|Shiny Stone}}<br />
| [[Ether]]<br />
| {{DL|In-battle effect item|White Herb}}<br />
|-<br />
| 51-60<br />
| [[Escape Rope]]<br />
| {{DL|Status ailment healing item|Full Heal}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Hyper Potion}}<br />
| {{DL|Poké Ball|Ultra Ball}}<br />
| [[Revive]]<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|Rare Candy}}<br />
| {{evostone|Dusk Stone}}<br />
| {{evostone|Shiny Stone}}<br />
| {{evostone|Dawn Stone}}<br />
| {{DL|In-battle effect item|White Herb}}<br />
| {{TM|44|Rest}}<br />
|-<br />
| 61-70<br />
| {{DL|Status ailment healing item|Full Heal}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Hyper Potion}}<br />
| {{DL|Poké Ball|Ultra Ball}}<br />
| [[Revive]]<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|Rare Candy}}<br />
| {{evostone|Dusk Stone}}<br />
| {{evostone|Shiny Stone}}<br />
| {{evostone|Dawn Stone}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Full Restore}}<br />
| {{TM|44|Rest}}<br />
| {{DL|Ether|Elixir}}<br />
|-<br />
| 71-80<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Hyper Potion}}<br />
| {{DL|Poké Ball|Ultra Ball}}<br />
| [[Revive]]<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|Rare Candy}}<br />
| {{evostone|Dusk Stone}}<br />
| {{evostone|Shiny Stone}}<br />
| {{evostone|Dawn Stone}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Full Restore}}<br />
| {{DL|Revive|Max Revive}}<br />
| {{DL|Ether|Elixir}}<br />
| {{TM|01|Focus Punch}}<br />
|-<br />
| 81-90<br />
| {{DL|Poké Ball|Ultra Ball}}<br />
| [[Revive]]<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|Rare Candy}}<br />
| {{evostone|Dusk Stone}}<br />
| {{evostone|Shiny Stone}}<br />
| {{evostone|Dawn Stone}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Full Restore}}<br />
| {{DL|Revive|Max Revive}}<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|PP Up}}<br />
| {{TM|01|Focus Punch}}<br />
| {{DL|In-battle effect item|Leftovers}}<br />
|-<br />
| 91-100<br />
| [[Revive]]<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|Rare Candy}}<br />
| {{evostone|Dusk Stone}}<br />
| {{evostone|Shiny Stone}}<br />
| {{evostone|Dawn Stone}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Full Restore}}<br />
| {{DL|Revive|Max Revive}}<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|PP Up}}<br />
| {{DL|Ether|Max Elixir}}<br />
| {{DL|In-battle effect item|Leftovers}}<br />
| {{TM|26|Earthquake}}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
=====Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver=====<br />
While the Pickup items remained very similar to {{3v2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}}, several changes were made in {{2v2|HeartGold|SoulSilver}}. Some evolutionary stones and TMs were replaced with similar items; new items were also added.<br />
<br />
{| {{bluetable|background: white; width: 100%}}<br />
|- style="background: #{{items color}};"<br />
! Level<br />
! 30%<br />
! colspan=6 | 10%<br />
! 5%<br />
! 3%<br />
! colspan=2 | 1% <br />
|-<br />
| 1-10<br />
| [[Potion]]<br />
| {{DL|Status ailment healing item|Antidote}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Super Potion}}<br />
| {{DL|Poké Ball|Great Ball}}<br />
| [[Repel]]<br />
| [[Escape Rope]]<br />
| {{DL|Status ailment healing item|Full Heal}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Hyper Potion}}<br />
| {{DL|Poké Ball|Ultra Ball}}<br />
| {{DL|Status ailment healing item|Full Heal}}<br />
| {{DL|Valuable item|Nugget}}<br />
|-<br />
| 11-20<br />
| {{DL|Status ailment healing item|Antidote}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Super Potion}}<br />
| {{DL|Poké Ball|Great Ball}}<br />
| [[Repel]]<br />
| [[Escape Rope]]<br />
| {{DL|Status ailment healing item|Full Heal}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Hyper Potion}}<br />
| {{DL|Poké Ball|Ultra Ball}}<br />
| [[Revive]]<br />
| {{DL|Valuable item|Nugget}}<br />
| {{DL|Evolution-inducing held item|King's Rock}}<br />
|-<br />
| 21-30<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Super Potion}}<br />
| {{DL|Poké Ball|Great Ball}}<br />
| [[Repel]]<br />
| [[Escape Rope]]<br />
| {{DL|Status ailment healing item|Full Heal}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Hyper Potion}}<br />
| {{DL|Poké Ball|Ultra Ball}}<br />
| [[Revive]]<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|Rare Candy}}<br />
| {{DL|Evolution-inducing held item|King's Rock}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Full Restore}}<br />
|-<br />
| 31-40<br />
| {{DL|Poké Ball|Great Ball}}<br />
| [[Repel]]<br />
| [[Escape Rope]]<br />
| {{DL|Status ailment healing item|Full Heal}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Hyper Potion}}<br />
| {{DL|Poké Ball|Ultra Ball}}<br />
| [[Revive]]<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|Rare Candy}}<br />
| {{evostone|Sun Stone}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Full Restore}}<br />
| [[Ether]]<br />
|-<br />
| 41-50<br />
| [[Repel]]<br />
| [[Escape Rope]]<br />
| {{DL|Status ailment healing item|Full Heal}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Hyper Potion}}<br />
| {{DL|Poké Ball|Ultra Ball}}<br />
| [[Revive]]<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|Rare Candy}}<br />
| {{evostone|Sun Stone}}<br />
| {{evostone|Moon Stone}}<br />
| [[Ether]]<br />
| {{DL|In-battle effect item|Iron Ball}}<br />
|-<br />
| 51-60<br />
| [[Escape Rope]]<br />
| {{DL|Status ailment healing item|Full Heal}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Hyper Potion}}<br />
| {{DL|Poké Ball|Ultra Ball}}<br />
| [[Revive]]<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|Rare Candy}}<br />
| {{evostone|Sun Stone}}<br />
| {{evostone|Moon Stone}}<br />
| {{DL|Exchangeable item|Heart Scale}}<br />
| {{DL|In-battle effect item|Iron Ball}}<br />
| {{TM|56|Fling}}<br />
|-<br />
| 61-70<br />
| {{DL|Status ailment healing item|Full Heal}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Hyper Potion}}<br />
| {{DL|Poké Ball|Ultra Ball}}<br />
| [[Revive]]<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|Rare Candy}}<br />
| {{evostone|Sun Stone}}<br />
| {{evostone|Moon Stone}}<br />
| {{DL|Exchangeable item|Heart Scale}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Full Restore}}<br />
| {{TM|56|Fling}}<br />
| {{DL|Ether|Elixir}}<br />
|-<br />
| 71-80<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Hyper Potion}}<br />
| {{DL|Poké Ball|Ultra Ball}}<br />
| [[Revive]]<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|Rare Candy}}<br />
| {{evostone|Sun Stone}}<br />
| {{evostone|Moon Stone}}<br />
| {{DL|Exchangeable item|Heart Scale}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Full Restore}}<br />
| {{DL|Revive|Max Revive}}<br />
| {{DL|Ether|Elixir}}<br />
| {{TM|86|Grass Knot}}<br />
|-<br />
| 81-90<br />
| {{DL|Poké Ball|Ultra Ball}}<br />
| [[Revive]]<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|Rare Candy}}<br />
| {{evostone|Sun Stone}}<br />
| {{evostone|Moon Stone}}<br />
| {{DL|Exchangeable item|Heart Scale}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Full Restore}}<br />
| {{DL|Revive|Max Revive}}<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|PP Up}}<br />
| {{TM|86|Grass Knot}}<br />
| {{DL|In-battle effect item|Leftovers}}<br />
|-<br />
| 91-100<br />
| [[Revive]]<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|Rare Candy}}<br />
| {{evostone|Sun Stone}}<br />
| {{evostone|Moon Stone}}<br />
| {{DL|Exchangeable item|Heart Scale}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Full Restore}}<br />
| {{DL|Revive|Max Revive}}<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|PP Up}}<br />
| {{DL|Ether|Max Elixir}}<br />
| {{DL|In-battle effect item|Leftovers}}<br />
| {{TM|26|Earthquake}}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
=====Pokémon Black and White=====<br />
While the Pickup items remained very similar to {{2v2|HeartGold|SoulSilver}}, several changes were made in {{2v2|Black|White}}. Previously obtainable TMs and items were replaced with either new or different items.<br />
<br />
{| {{bluetable|background: white; width: 100%}}<br />
|- style="background: #{{items color}};"<br />
! Level<br />
! 30%<br />
! colspan=6 | 10%<br />
! 5%<br />
! 3%<br />
! colspan=2 | 1% <br />
|-<br />
| 1-10<br />
| [[Potion]]<br />
| {{DL|Status ailment healing item|Antidote}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Super Potion}}<br />
| {{DL|Poké Ball|Great Ball}}<br />
| [[Repel]]<br />
| [[Escape Rope]]<br />
| {{DL|Status ailment healing item|Full Heal}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Hyper Potion}}<br />
| {{DL|Poké Ball|Ultra Ball}}<br />
| {{DL|Repel|Max Repel}}<br />
| {{DL|Valuable item|Nugget}}<br />
|-<br />
| 11-20<br />
| {{DL|Status ailment healing item|Antidote}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Super Potion}}<br />
| {{DL|Poké Ball|Great Ball}}<br />
| [[Repel]]<br />
| [[Escape Rope]]<br />
| {{DL|Status ailment healing item|Full Heal}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Hyper Potion}}<br />
| {{DL|Poké Ball|Ultra Ball}}<br />
| [[Revive]]<br />
| {{DL|Valuable item|Nugget}}<br />
| {{DL|Evolution-inducing held item|King's Rock}}<br />
|-<br />
| 21-30<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Super Potion}}<br />
| {{DL|Poké Ball|Great Ball}}<br />
| [[Repel]]<br />
| [[Escape Rope]]<br />
| {{DL|Status ailment healing item|Full Heal}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Hyper Potion}}<br />
| {{DL|Poké Ball|Ultra Ball}}<br />
| [[Revive]]<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|Rare Candy}}<br />
| {{DL|Evolution-inducing held item|King's Rock}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Full Restore}}<br />
|-<br />
| 31-40<br />
| {{DL|Poké Ball|Great Ball}}<br />
| [[Repel]]<br />
| [[Escape Rope]]<br />
| {{DL|Status ailment healing item|Full Heal}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Hyper Potion}}<br />
| {{DL|Poké Ball|Ultra Ball}}<br />
| [[Revive]]<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|Rare Candy}}<br />
| {{evostone|Sun Stone}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Full Restore}}<br />
| {{DL|In-battle effect item|Iron Ball}}<br />
|-<br />
| 41-50<br />
| [[Repel]]<br />
| [[Escape Rope]]<br />
| {{DL|Status ailment healing item|Full Heal}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Hyper Potion}}<br />
| {{DL|Poké Ball|Ultra Ball}}<br />
| [[Revive]]<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|Rare Candy}}<br />
| {{evostone|Sun Stone}}<br />
| {{evostone|Moon Stone}}<br />
| {{DL|In-battle effect item|Iron Ball}}<br />
| {{DL|Experience-affecting item|Lucky Egg}}<br />
|-<br />
| 51-60<br />
| [[Escape Rope]]<br />
| {{DL|Status ailment healing item|Full Heal}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Hyper Potion}}<br />
| {{DL|Poké Ball|Ultra Ball}}<br />
| [[Revive]]<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|Rare Candy}}<br />
| {{evostone|Sun Stone}}<br />
| {{evostone|Moon Stone}}<br />
| {{DL|Exchangeable item|Heart Scale}}<br />
| {{DL|Experience-affecting item|Lucky Egg}}<br />
| {{DL|Evolution-inducing held item|Prism Scale}}<br />
|-<br />
| 61-70<br />
| {{DL|Status ailment healing item|Full Heal}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Hyper Potion}}<br />
| {{DL|Poké Ball|Ultra Ball}}<br />
| [[Revive]]<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|Rare Candy}}<br />
| {{evostone|Sun Stone}}<br />
| {{evostone|Moon Stone}}<br />
| {{DL|Exchangeable item|Heart Scale}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Full Restore}}<br />
| {{DL|Evolution-inducing held item|Prism Scale}}<br />
| {{DL|Ether|Elixir}}<br />
|-<br />
| 71-80<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Hyper Potion}}<br />
| {{DL|Poké Ball|Ultra Ball}}<br />
| [[Revive]]<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|Rare Candy}}<br />
| {{evostone|Sun Stone}}<br />
| {{evostone|Moon Stone}}<br />
| {{DL|Exchangeable item|Heart Scale}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Full Restore}}<br />
| {{DL|Revive|Max Revive}}<br />
| {{DL|Ether|Elixir}}<br />
| {{DL|Evolution-inducing held item|Prism Scale}}<br />
|-<br />
| 81-90<br />
| {{DL|Poké Ball|Ultra Ball}}<br />
| [[Revive]]<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|Rare Candy}}<br />
| {{evostone|Sun Stone}}<br />
| {{evostone|Moon Stone}}<br />
| {{DL|Exchangeable item|Heart Scale}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Full Restore}}<br />
| {{DL|Revive|Max Revive}}<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|PP Up}}<br />
| {{DL|Evolution-inducing held item|Prism Scale}}<br />
| {{DL|In-battle effect item|Leftovers}}<br />
|-<br />
| 91-100<br />
| [[Revive]]<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|Rare Candy}}<br />
| {{evostone|Sun Stone}}<br />
| {{evostone|Moon Stone}}<br />
| {{DL|Exchangeable item|Heart Scale}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Full Restore}}<br />
| {{DL|Revive|Max Revive}}<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|PP Up}}<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|PP Max}}<br />
| {{DL|In-battle effect item|Leftovers}}<br />
| {{DL|Evolution-inducing held item|Prism Scale}}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
==Pokémon with Pickup==<br />
{{Ability/head|items}}<br />
{{Ability/entry|052|Meowth|Normal|Normal|Pickup|Technician|Unnerve}}<br />
{{Ability/entry|190|Aipom|Normal|Normal|Run Away|Pickup|Skill Link}}<br />
{{Ability/entry|216|Teddiursa|Normal|Normal|Pickup|Quick Feet|Honey Gather}}<br />
{{Ability/entry|231|Phanpy|Ground|Ground|Pickup|None|Sand Veil}}<br />
{{Ability/entry|263|Zigzagoon|Normal|Normal|Pickup|Gluttony|Quick Feet}}<br />
{{Ability/entry|264|Linoone|Normal|Normal|Pickup|Gluttony|Quick Feet}}<br />
{{Ability/entry|417|Pachirisu|Electric|Electric|Run Away|Pickup|Volt Absorb}}<br />
{{Ability/entry|424|Ambipom|Normal|Normal|Technician|Pickup|Skill Link}}<br />
{{Ability/entry|446|Munchlax|Normal|Normal|Pickup|Thick Fat|Gluttony}}<br />
{{Ability/entry|506|Lillipup|Normal|Normal|Vital Spirit|Pickup|Run Away}}<br />
{{Ability/foot|items}}<br />
<br />
==In the anime==<br />
{{moveanime|type=items|exp=yes|gen=The user finds many rare items and picks them up, even going as far as stealing items from others.|image1=Linoone Pickup.png|image1p=Linoone}}<br />
{{movep|type=items|ms=264|pkmn=Linoone|method=Linoone finds many rare items everywhere and puts them in its cheeks. It even goes as far as to steal items from others.}}<br />
{{movebtm|type=items|user=Kimmy Shoney|user1=Kimmy Shoney's Linoone|startcode=AG112|startname=Showdown at Linoone|notes=Debut}}<br />
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==In the manga==<br />
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===Pokémon Adventures===<br />
{{movemanga|type=items|exp=yes|gen=The user picks up items it finds on the ground.}}<br />
{{movep|type=items|ms=231|pkmn=Phanpy|method=Phanpy picks up items it finds on the ground and stores them in its mouth until its Trainer asks to receive them. It can hold up to three items at a time in its mouth.}}<br />
{{movebtmManga|type=items|user=Crystal (Adventures)|user1=Crys's Phanpy|startcode=PS312|startname=VS. Regirock|notes=Debut}}<br />
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<div>{{AbilityInfobox<br />
|name=Pickup<br />
|jpname=ものひろい<br />
|jptrans=Picking Up Things<br />
|jptranslit=Monohiroi<br />
|colorscheme=items<br />
|gen=3<br />
|text3=May pick up items.<br />
|text4=The Pokémon may pick up items.<br />
|text5=The Pokémon may pick up items.<br />
}}<br />
'''Pickup''' (Japanese: '''ものひろい''' ''Picking Up Things'') is an [[Ability]] introduced in [[Generation III]]. Ten {{OBP|Pokémon|species}} have this Ability.<br />
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==Effect==<br />
===In battle===<br />
====Generation III to IV====<br />
Pickup has no effect during battle.<br />
<br />
====Generation V====<br />
When an opponent or ally uses a held [[berry]] or a held one-time use item, Pokémon with Pickup gain the used berry or item if they are not already holding an item. A Pokémon with Pickup can also gain an item thrown at it using {{m|Fling}}. In [[double battle|double]] and [[triple battle]]s if more than one Pokémon have Pickup, then only the faster Pokémon will pick up used items.<br />
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===Outside of battle===<br />
Pickup allows the player to receive free items. After a battle, any Pokémon on the team that has this Ability and is not already holding an item has a 10% chance of picking up an item, even if the Pokemon wasn't used in the battle. It can be retrieved through the normal means of taking a held item.<br />
<br />
====Items received====<br />
=====Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire=====<br />
Abilities first appeared in {{game|Ruby and Sapphire|s}}. These are the items that Pokémon with this Ability may pick up:<br />
{| {{bluetable|background: white; width:15%}}<br />
|- style="background: #{{items color}};"<br />
! Item<br />
! Rarity<br />
|-<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Super Potion}}<br />
| 30%<br />
|-<br />
| [[Poké Ball#Generation I Poké Balls|Ultra Ball]]<br />
| rowspan= 6 | 10%<br />
|-<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Full Restore}}<br />
|-<br />
| {{DL|Status ailment healing item|Full Heal}}<br />
|-<br />
| {{DL|Valuable item|Nugget}}<br />
|-<br />
| {{DL|Revive|Revive}}<br />
|-<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|Rare Candy}}<br />
|-<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|Protein}}<br />
| 5%<br />
|-<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|PP Up}}<br />
| 4%<br />
|-<br />
| {{DL|Evolution-inducing held item|King's Rock}}<br />
| 1%<br />
|}<br />
<br />
=====Pokémon Colosseum=====<br />
Like in Ruby and Sapphire, the Pokémon may pick up items after each battle. <br />
<br />
=====Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen=====<br />
In {{game|FireRed and LeafGreen|s}}, the Ability focused on Berries, which are not as readily available in [[Kanto]] as they are in [[Hoenn]]:<br />
{| {{bluetable|background: white; width:15%}}<br />
|- style="background: #{{items color}};"<br />
! Item<br />
! Rarity<br />
|-<br />
| [[Oran Berry]]<br />
| 15%<br />
|-<br />
| [[Aspear Berry]]<br />
| rowspan= 6 | 10%<br />
|-<br />
| [[Cheri Berry]]<br />
|-<br />
| [[Chesto Berry]]<br />
|-<br />
| [[Pecha Berry]]<br />
|-<br />
| [[Persim Berry]]<br />
|-<br />
| [[Rawst Berry]]<br />
|-<br />
| {{DL|Valuable item|Nugget}}<br />
| rowspan= 4 | 5%<br />
|-<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|PP Up}}<br />
|-<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|Rare Candy}}<br />
|-<br />
| [[TM10]] ({{m|Hidden Power}})<br />
|-<br />
| [[Belue Berry]]<br />
| rowspan= 5 | 1%<br />
|-<br />
| [[Durin Berry]]<br />
|-<br />
| [[Pamtre Berry]]<br />
|-<br />
| [[Spelon Berry]]<br />
|-<br />
| [[Watmel Berry]]<br />
|}<br />
<br />
=====Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness=====<br />
The Ability may obtain Full Heals, Super Potions and Great Balls, regardless of the user's level, as well as Ultra Balls and Rare Candy if the user is at or above level 25.<br />
<br />
=====Pokémon Emerald=====<br />
In {{game|Emerald}}, the Ability was changed to be affected by the Pokémon's level:<br />
{| {{bluetable|background: white; width: 100%}}<br />
|- style="background: #{{items color}};"<br />
! Level<br />
! 30%<br />
! colspan=6 | 10%<br />
! 5%<br />
! 3%<br />
! colspan=2 | 1% <br />
|-<br />
| 1-10<br />
| [[Potion]]<br />
| {{DL|Status ailment healing item|Antidote}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Super Potion}}<br />
| {{DL|Poké Ball|Great Ball}}<br />
| [[Repel]]<br />
| [[Escape Rope]]<br />
| {{DL|Battle item|X Attack}}<br />
| {{DL|Status ailment healing item|Full Heal}}<br />
| {{DL|Poké Ball|Ultra Ball}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Hyper Potion}}<br />
| {{DL|Valuable item|Nugget}}<br />
|-<br />
| 11-20<br />
| {{DL|Status ailment healing item|Antidote}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Super Potion}}<br />
| {{DL|Poké Ball|Great Ball}}<br />
| [[Repel]]<br />
| [[Escape Rope]]<br />
| {{DL|Battle item|X Attack}}<br />
| {{DL|Status ailment healing item|Full Heal}}<br />
| {{DL|Poké Ball|Ultra Ball}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Hyper Potion}}<br />
| {{DL|Valuable item|Nugget}}<br />
| {{DL|Evolution-inducing held item|King's Rock}}<br />
|-<br />
| 21-30<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Super Potion}}<br />
| {{DL|Poké Ball|Great Ball}}<br />
| [[Repel]]<br />
| [[Escape Rope]]<br />
| {{DL|Battle item|X Attack}}<br />
| {{DL|Status ailment healing item|Full Heal}}<br />
| {{DL|Poké Ball|Ultra Ball}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Hyper Potion}}<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|Rare Candy}}<br />
| {{DL|Evolution-inducing held item|King's Rock}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Full Restore}}<br />
|-<br />
| 31-40<br />
| {{DL|Poké Ball|Great Ball}}<br />
| [[Repel]]<br />
| [[Escape Rope]]<br />
| {{DL|Battle item|X Attack}}<br />
| {{DL|Status ailment healing item|Full Heal}}<br />
| {{DL|Poké Ball|Ultra Ball}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Hyper Potion}}<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|Rare Candy}}<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|Protein}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Full Restore}}<br />
| [[Ether]]<br />
|-<br />
| 41-50<br />
| [[Repel]]<br />
| [[Escape Rope]]<br />
| {{DL|Battle item|X Attack}}<br />
| {{DL|Status ailment healing item|Full Heal}}<br />
| {{DL|Poké Ball|Ultra Ball}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Hyper Potion}}<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|Rare Candy}}<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|Protein}}<br />
| [[Revive]]<br />
| [[Ether]]<br />
| {{DL|In-battle effect item|White Herb}}<br />
|-<br />
| 51-60<br />
| [[Escape Rope]]<br />
| {{DL|Battle item|X Attack}}<br />
| {{DL|Status ailment healing item|Full Heal}}<br />
| {{DL|Poké Ball|Ultra Ball}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Hyper Potion}}<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|Rare Candy}}<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|Protein}}<br />
| [[Revive]]<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|HP Up}}<br />
| {{DL|In-battle effect item|White Herb}}<br />
| {{TM|44|Rest}}<br />
|-<br />
| 61-70<br />
| {{DL|Battle item|X Attack}}<br />
| {{DL|Status ailment healing item|Full Heal}}<br />
| {{DL|Poké Ball|Ultra Ball}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Hyper Potion}}<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|Rare Candy}}<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|Protein}}<br />
| [[Revive]]<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|HP Up}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Full Restore}}<br />
| [[TM44]] ({{m|Rest}})<br />
| {{DL|Ether|Elixir}}<br />
|-<br />
| 71-80<br />
| {{DL|Status ailment healing item|Full Heal}}<br />
| {{DL|Poké Ball|Ultra Ball}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Hyper Potion}}<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|Rare Candy}}<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|Protein}}<br />
| [[Revive]]<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|HP Up}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Full Restore}}<br />
| {{DL|Revive|Max Revive}}<br />
| {{DL|Ether|Elixir}}<br />
| {{TM|01|Focus Punch}}<br />
|-<br />
| 81-90<br />
| {{DL|Poké Ball|Ultra Ball}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Hyper Potion}}<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|Rare Candy}}<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|Protein}}<br />
| [[Revive]]<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|HP Up}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Full Restore}}<br />
| {{DL|Revive|Max Revive}}<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|PP Up}}<br />
| {{TM|01|Focus Punch}}<br />
| {{DL|In-battle effect item|Leftovers}}<br />
|-<br />
| 91-100<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Hyper Potion}}<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|Rare Candy}}<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|Protein}}<br />
| [[Revive]]<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|HP Up}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Full Restore}}<br />
| {{DL|Revive|Max Revive}}<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|PP Up}}<br />
| {{DL|Ether|Max Elixir}}<br />
| {{DL|In-battle effect item|Leftovers}}<br />
| {{TM|26|Earthquake}}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
=====Pokémon Diamond, Pearl and Platinum=====<br />
The only changes in {{game2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}} were a few tweaks to the items received:<br />
{| {{bluetable|background: white; width: 100%}}<br />
|- style="background: #{{items color}};"<br />
! Level<br />
! 30%<br />
! colspan=6 | 10%<br />
! 5%<br />
! 3%<br />
! colspan=2 | 1% <br />
|-<br />
| 1-10<br />
| [[Potion]]<br />
| {{DL|Status ailment healing item|Antidote}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Super Potion}}<br />
| {{DL|Poké Ball|Great Ball}}<br />
| [[Repel]]<br />
| [[Escape Rope]]<br />
| {{DL|Status ailment healing item|Full Heal}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Hyper Potion}}<br />
| {{DL|Poké Ball|Ultra Ball}}<br />
| [[Revive]]<br />
| {{DL|Valuable item|Nugget}}<br />
|-<br />
| 11-20<br />
| {{DL|Status ailment healing item|Antidote}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Super Potion}}<br />
| {{DL|Poké Ball|Great Ball}}<br />
| [[Repel]]<br />
| [[Escape Rope]]<br />
| {{DL|Status ailment healing item|Full Heal}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Hyper Potion}}<br />
| {{DL|Poké Ball|Ultra Ball}}<br />
| [[Revive]]<br />
| {{DL|Valuable item|Nugget}}<br />
| {{DL|Evolution-inducing held item|King's Rock}}<br />
|-<br />
| 21-30<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Super Potion}}<br />
| {{DL|Poké Ball|Great Ball}}<br />
| [[Repel]]<br />
| [[Escape Rope]]<br />
| {{DL|Status ailment healing item|Full Heal}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Hyper Potion}}<br />
| {{DL|Poké Ball|Ultra Ball}}<br />
| [[Revive]]<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|Rare Candy}}<br />
| {{DL|Evolution-inducing held item|King's Rock}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Full Restore}}<br />
|-<br />
| 31-40<br />
| {{DL|Poké Ball|Great Ball}}<br />
| [[Repel]]<br />
| [[Escape Rope]]<br />
| {{DL|Status ailment healing item|Full Heal}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Hyper Potion}}<br />
| {{DL|Poké Ball|Ultra Ball}}<br />
| [[Revive]]<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|Rare Candy}}<br />
| {{evostone|Dusk Stone}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Full Restore}}<br />
| [[Ether]]<br />
|-<br />
| 41-50<br />
| [[Repel]]<br />
| [[Escape Rope]]<br />
| {{DL|Status ailment healing item|Full Heal}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Hyper Potion}}<br />
| {{DL|Poké Ball|Ultra Ball}}<br />
| [[Revive]]<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|Rare Candy}}<br />
| {{evostone|Dusk Stone}}<br />
| {{evostone|Shiny Stone}}<br />
| [[Ether]]<br />
| {{DL|In-battle effect item|White Herb}}<br />
|-<br />
| 51-60<br />
| [[Escape Rope]]<br />
| {{DL|Status ailment healing item|Full Heal}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Hyper Potion}}<br />
| {{DL|Poké Ball|Ultra Ball}}<br />
| [[Revive]]<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|Rare Candy}}<br />
| {{evostone|Dusk Stone}}<br />
| {{evostone|Shiny Stone}}<br />
| {{evostone|Dawn Stone}}<br />
| {{DL|In-battle effect item|White Herb}}<br />
| {{TM|44|Rest}}<br />
|-<br />
| 61-70<br />
| {{DL|Status ailment healing item|Full Heal}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Hyper Potion}}<br />
| {{DL|Poké Ball|Ultra Ball}}<br />
| [[Revive]]<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|Rare Candy}}<br />
| {{evostone|Dusk Stone}}<br />
| {{evostone|Shiny Stone}}<br />
| {{evostone|Dawn Stone}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Full Restore}}<br />
| {{TM|44|Rest}}<br />
| {{DL|Ether|Elixir}}<br />
|-<br />
| 71-80<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Hyper Potion}}<br />
| {{DL|Poké Ball|Ultra Ball}}<br />
| [[Revive]]<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|Rare Candy}}<br />
| {{evostone|Dusk Stone}}<br />
| {{evostone|Shiny Stone}}<br />
| {{evostone|Dawn Stone}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Full Restore}}<br />
| {{DL|Revive|Max Revive}}<br />
| {{DL|Ether|Elixir}}<br />
| {{TM|01|Focus Punch}}<br />
|-<br />
| 81-90<br />
| {{DL|Poké Ball|Ultra Ball}}<br />
| [[Revive]]<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|Rare Candy}}<br />
| {{evostone|Dusk Stone}}<br />
| {{evostone|Shiny Stone}}<br />
| {{evostone|Dawn Stone}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Full Restore}}<br />
| {{DL|Revive|Max Revive}}<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|PP Up}}<br />
| {{TM|01|Focus Punch}}<br />
| {{DL|In-battle effect item|Leftovers}}<br />
|-<br />
| 91-100<br />
| [[Revive]]<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|Rare Candy}}<br />
| {{evostone|Dusk Stone}}<br />
| {{evostone|Shiny Stone}}<br />
| {{evostone|Dawn Stone}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Full Restore}}<br />
| {{DL|Revive|Max Revive}}<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|PP Up}}<br />
| {{DL|Ether|Max Elixir}}<br />
| {{DL|In-battle effect item|Leftovers}}<br />
| {{TM|26|Earthquake}}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
=====Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver=====<br />
While the Pickup items remained very similar to {{3v2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}}, several changes were made in {{2v2|HeartGold|SoulSilver}}. Some evolutionary stones and TMs were replaced with similar items; new items were also added.<br />
<br />
{| {{bluetable|background: white; width: 100%}}<br />
|- style="background: #{{items color}};"<br />
! Level<br />
! 30%<br />
! colspan=6 | 10%<br />
! 5%<br />
! 3%<br />
! colspan=2 | 1% <br />
|-<br />
| 1-10<br />
| [[Potion]]<br />
| {{DL|Status ailment healing item|Antidote}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Super Potion}}<br />
| {{DL|Poké Ball|Great Ball}}<br />
| [[Repel]]<br />
| [[Escape Rope]]<br />
| {{DL|Status ailment healing item|Full Heal}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Hyper Potion}}<br />
| {{DL|Poké Ball|Ultra Ball}}<br />
| {{DL|Status ailment healing item|Full Heal}}<br />
| {{DL|Valuable item|Nugget}}<br />
|-<br />
| 11-20<br />
| {{DL|Status ailment healing item|Antidote}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Super Potion}}<br />
| {{DL|Poké Ball|Great Ball}}<br />
| [[Repel]]<br />
| [[Escape Rope]]<br />
| {{DL|Status ailment healing item|Full Heal}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Hyper Potion}}<br />
| {{DL|Poké Ball|Ultra Ball}}<br />
| [[Revive]]<br />
| {{DL|Valuable item|Nugget}}<br />
| {{DL|Evolution-inducing held item|King's Rock}}<br />
|-<br />
| 21-30<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Super Potion}}<br />
| {{DL|Poké Ball|Great Ball}}<br />
| [[Repel]]<br />
| [[Escape Rope]]<br />
| {{DL|Status ailment healing item|Full Heal}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Hyper Potion}}<br />
| {{DL|Poké Ball|Ultra Ball}}<br />
| [[Revive]]<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|Rare Candy}}<br />
| {{DL|Evolution-inducing held item|King's Rock}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Full Restore}}<br />
|-<br />
| 31-40<br />
| {{DL|Poké Ball|Great Ball}}<br />
| [[Repel]]<br />
| [[Escape Rope]]<br />
| {{DL|Status ailment healing item|Full Heal}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Hyper Potion}}<br />
| {{DL|Poké Ball|Ultra Ball}}<br />
| [[Revive]]<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|Rare Candy}}<br />
| {{evostone|Sun Stone}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Full Restore}}<br />
| [[Ether]]<br />
|-<br />
| 41-50<br />
| [[Repel]]<br />
| [[Escape Rope]]<br />
| {{DL|Status ailment healing item|Full Heal}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Hyper Potion}}<br />
| {{DL|Poké Ball|Ultra Ball}}<br />
| [[Revive]]<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|Rare Candy}}<br />
| {{evostone|Sun Stone}}<br />
| {{evostone|Moon Stone}}<br />
| [[Ether]]<br />
| {{DL|In-battle effect item|Iron Ball}}<br />
|-<br />
| 51-60<br />
| [[Escape Rope]]<br />
| {{DL|Status ailment healing item|Full Heal}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Hyper Potion}}<br />
| {{DL|Poké Ball|Ultra Ball}}<br />
| [[Revive]]<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|Rare Candy}}<br />
| {{evostone|Sun Stone}}<br />
| {{evostone|Moon Stone}}<br />
| {{DL|Exchangeable item|Heart Scale}}<br />
| {{DL|In-battle effect item|Iron Ball}}<br />
| {{TM|56|Fling}}<br />
|-<br />
| 61-70<br />
| {{DL|Status ailment healing item|Full Heal}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Hyper Potion}}<br />
| {{DL|Poké Ball|Ultra Ball}}<br />
| [[Revive]]<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|Rare Candy}}<br />
| {{evostone|Sun Stone}}<br />
| {{evostone|Moon Stone}}<br />
| {{DL|Exchangeable item|Heart Scale}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Full Restore}}<br />
| {{TM|56|Fling}}<br />
| {{DL|Ether|Elixir}}<br />
|-<br />
| 71-80<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Hyper Potion}}<br />
| {{DL|Poké Ball|Ultra Ball}}<br />
| [[Revive]]<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|Rare Candy}}<br />
| {{evostone|Sun Stone}}<br />
| {{evostone|Moon Stone}}<br />
| {{DL|Exchangeable item|Heart Scale}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Full Restore}}<br />
| {{DL|Revive|Max Revive}}<br />
| {{DL|Ether|Elixir}}<br />
| {{TM|86|Grass Knot}}<br />
|-<br />
| 81-90<br />
| {{DL|Poké Ball|Ultra Ball}}<br />
| [[Revive]]<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|Rare Candy}}<br />
| {{evostone|Sun Stone}}<br />
| {{evostone|Moon Stone}}<br />
| {{DL|Exchangeable item|Heart Scale}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Full Restore}}<br />
| {{DL|Revive|Max Revive}}<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|PP Up}}<br />
| {{TM|86|Grass Knot}}<br />
| {{DL|In-battle effect item|Leftovers}}<br />
|-<br />
| 91-100<br />
| [[Revive]]<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|Rare Candy}}<br />
| {{evostone|Sun Stone}}<br />
| {{evostone|Moon Stone}}<br />
| {{DL|Exchangeable item|Heart Scale}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Full Restore}}<br />
| {{DL|Revive|Max Revive}}<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|PP Up}}<br />
| {{DL|Ether|Max Elixir}}<br />
| {{DL|In-battle effect item|Leftovers}}<br />
| {{TM|26|Earthquake}}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
=====Pokémon Black and White=====<br />
While the Pickup items remained very similar to {{2v2|HeartGold|SoulSilver}}, several changes were made in {{2v2|Black|White}}. Previously obtainable TMs and items were replaced with either new or different items.<br />
<br />
{| {{bluetable|background: white; width: 100%}}<br />
|- style="background: #{{items color}};"<br />
! Level<br />
! 30%<br />
! colspan=6 | 10%<br />
! 5%<br />
! 3%<br />
! colspan=2 | 1% <br />
|-<br />
| 1-10<br />
| [[Potion]]<br />
| {{DL|Status ailment healing item|Antidote}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Super Potion}}<br />
| {{DL|Poké Ball|Great Ball}}<br />
| [[Repel]]<br />
| [[Escape Rope]]<br />
| {{DL|Status ailment healing item|Full Heal}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Hyper Potion}}<br />
| {{DL|Poké Ball|Ultra Ball}}<br />
| {{DL|Repel|Max Repel}}<br />
| {{DL|Valuable item|Nugget}}<br />
|-<br />
| 11-20<br />
| {{DL|Status ailment healing item|Antidote}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Super Potion}}<br />
| {{DL|Poké Ball|Great Ball}}<br />
| [[Repel]]<br />
| [[Escape Rope]]<br />
| {{DL|Status ailment healing item|Full Heal}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Hyper Potion}}<br />
| {{DL|Poké Ball|Ultra Ball}}<br />
| [[Revive]]<br />
| {{DL|Valuable item|Nugget}}<br />
| {{DL|Evolution-inducing held item|King's Rock}}<br />
|-<br />
| 21-30<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Super Potion}}<br />
| {{DL|Poké Ball|Great Ball}}<br />
| [[Repel]]<br />
| [[Escape Rope]]<br />
| {{DL|Status ailment healing item|Full Heal}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Hyper Potion}}<br />
| {{DL|Poké Ball|Ultra Ball}}<br />
| [[Revive]]<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|Rare Candy}}<br />
| {{DL|Evolution-inducing held item|King's Rock}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Full Restore}}<br />
|-<br />
| 31-40<br />
| {{DL|Poké Ball|Great Ball}}<br />
| [[Repel]]<br />
| [[Escape Rope]]<br />
| {{DL|Status ailment healing item|Full Heal}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Hyper Potion}}<br />
| {{DL|Poké Ball|Ultra Ball}}<br />
| [[Revive]]<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|Rare Candy}}<br />
| {{evostone|Sun Stone}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Full Restore}}<br />
| {{DL|In-battle effect item|Iron Ball}}<br />
|-<br />
| 41-50<br />
| [[Repel]]<br />
| [[Escape Rope]]<br />
| {{DL|Status ailment healing item|Full Heal}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Hyper Potion}}<br />
| {{DL|Poké Ball|Ultra Ball}}<br />
| [[Revive]]<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|Rare Candy}}<br />
| {{evostone|Sun Stone}}<br />
| {{evostone|Moon Stone}}<br />
| {{DL|In-battle effect item|Iron Ball}}<br />
| {{DL|Experience-affecting item|Lucky Egg}}<br />
|-<br />
| 51-60<br />
| [[Escape Rope]]<br />
| {{DL|Status ailment healing item|Full Heal}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Hyper Potion}}<br />
| {{DL|Poké Ball|Ultra Ball}}<br />
| [[Revive]]<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|Rare Candy}}<br />
| {{evostone|Sun Stone}}<br />
| {{evostone|Moon Stone}}<br />
| {{DL|Exchangeable item|Heart Scale}}<br />
| {{DL|Experience-affecting item|Lucky Egg}}<br />
| {{DL|Evolution-inducing held item|Prism Scale}}<br />
|-<br />
| 61-70<br />
| {{DL|Status ailment healing item|Full Heal}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Hyper Potion}}<br />
| {{DL|Poké Ball|Ultra Ball}}<br />
| [[Revive]]<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|Rare Candy}}<br />
| {{evostone|Sun Stone}}<br />
| {{evostone|Moon Stone}}<br />
| {{DL|Exchangeable item|Heart Scale}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Full Restore}}<br />
| {{DL|Evolution-inducing held item|Prism Scale}}<br />
| {{DL|Ether|Elixir}}<br />
|-<br />
| 71-80<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Hyper Potion}}<br />
| {{DL|Poké Ball|Ultra Ball}}<br />
| [[Revive]]<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|Rare Candy}}<br />
| {{evostone|Sun Stone}}<br />
| {{evostone|Moon Stone}}<br />
| {{DL|Exchangeable item|Heart Scale}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Full Restore}}<br />
| {{DL|Revive|Max Revive}}<br />
| {{DL|Ether|Elixir}}<br />
| {{DL|Evolution-inducing held item|Prism Scale}}<br />
|-<br />
| 81-90<br />
| {{DL|Poké Ball|Ultra Ball}}<br />
| [[Revive]]<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|Rare Candy}}<br />
| {{evostone|Sun Stone}}<br />
| {{evostone|Moon Stone}}<br />
| {{DL|Exchangeable item|Heart Scale}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Full Restore}}<br />
| {{DL|Revive|Max Revive}}<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|PP Up}}<br />
| {{DL|Evolution-inducing held item|Prism Scale}}<br />
| {{DL|In-battle effect item|Leftovers}}<br />
|-<br />
| 91-100<br />
| [[Revive]]<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|Rare Candy}}<br />
| {{evostone|Sun Stone}}<br />
| {{evostone|Moon Stone}}<br />
| {{DL|Exchangeable item|Heart Scale}}<br />
| {{DL|Potion|Full Restore}}<br />
| {{DL|Revive|Max Revive}}<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|PP Up}}<br />
| {{DL|Vitamin|PP Max}}<br />
| {{DL|In-battle effect item|Leftovers}}<br />
| {{DL|Evolution-inducing held item|Prism Scale}}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
==Pokémon with Pickup==<br />
{{Ability/head|items}}<br />
{{Ability/entry|052|Meowth|Normal|Normal|Pickup|Technician|Unnerve}}<br />
{{Ability/entry|190|Aipom|Normal|Normal|Run Away|Pickup|Skill Link}}<br />
{{Ability/entry|216|Teddiursa|Normal|Normal|Pickup|Quick Feet|Honey Gather}}<br />
{{Ability/entry|231|Phanpy|Ground|Ground|Pickup|None|Sand Veil}}<br />
{{Ability/entry|263|Zigzagoon|Normal|Normal|Pickup|Gluttony|Quick Feet}}<br />
{{Ability/entry|264|Linoone|Normal|Normal|Pickup|Gluttony|Quick Feet}}<br />
{{Ability/entry|417|Pachirisu|Electric|Electric|Run Away|Pickup|Volt Absorb}}<br />
{{Ability/entry|424|Ambipom|Normal|Normal|Technician|Pickup|Skill Link}}<br />
{{Ability/entry|446|Munchlax|Normal|Normal|Pickup|Thick Fat|Gluttony}}<br />
{{Ability/entry|506|Lillipup|Normal|Normal|Vital Spirit|Pickup|Run Away}}<br />
{{Ability/foot|items}}<br />
<br />
==In the anime==<br />
{{moveanime|type=items|exp=yes|gen=The user finds many rare items and picks them up, even going as far as stealing items from others.|image1=Linoone Pickup.png|image1p=Linoone}}<br />
{{movep|type=items|ms=264|pkmn=Linoone|method=Linoone finds many rare items everywhere and puts them in its cheeks. It even goes as far as to steal items from others.}}<br />
{{movebtm|type=items|user=Kimmy Shoney|user1=Kimmy Shoney's Linoone|startcode=AG112|startname=Showdown at Linoone|notes=Debut}}<br />
<br />
==In the manga==<br />
<br />
===Pokémon Adventures===<br />
{{movemanga|type=items|exp=yes|gen=The user picks up items it finds on the ground.}}<br />
{{movep|type=items|ms=231|pkmn=Phanpy|method=Phanpy picks up items it finds on the ground and stores them in its mouth until its Trainer asks to receive them. It can hold up to three items at a time in its mouth.}}<br />
{{movebtmManga|type=items|user=Crystal (Adventures)|user1=Crys's Phanpy|startcode=PS312|startname=VS. Regirock|notes=Debut}}<br />
<br />
==In other languages==<br />
{{Langtable|color={{items color}}|bordercolor={{items color dark}}<br />
|fr=Ramassage<br />
|de=Mitnahme<br />
|el=Συλλογή<br />
|it=Raccolta<br />
|es=Recogida<br />
|pt=Pegar Objeto}}<br><br />
{{Project Moves and Abilities notice}}<br />
[[Category:Abilities with field effects]]<br />
<br />
[[de:Mitnahme]]<br />
[[es:Recogida]]<br />
[[fr:Ramassage]]<br />
[[ja:ものひろい]]<br />
[[pt:Pickup]]</div>Phoenixonhttps://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Stat&diff=1433053Stat2011-05-12T13:36:29Z<p>Phoenixon: /* Stat modifiers */</p>
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<div>:'''''HP''' and '''Hit Points''' redirects here. For the move commonly referred to in competitive battling as "HP", see {{m|Hidden Power}}. For the [[Pokémon Trading Card Game]] set commonly abbreviated as "HP," see {{TCG| EX Holon Phantoms}}. For HP in the Trading Card Game see [[Glossary (TCG)#Hit Points|Glossary of terms]].''<br />
----<br />
'''Stats''', short for '''statistics''', determine certain aspects of {{pkmn|battle}}s in the {{pkmn|games}}. More specifically, stats may also refer to the numerical values of each field in regards to individual Pokémon.<br />
<br />
==List of stats==<br />
===Permanent stats===<br />
===={{anchor|HP|Hit Points}}====<br />
[[File:Pt hp bar.png|frame|HP bar in {{v2|Platinum}}]]<br />
'''Hit Points''', or '''HP''' for short, determine how much damage a Pokémon can receive before [[fainting]]. It is comparable to body mass rather than the toughness or willpower of the Pokémon. It is the most visible of the stats in battle, appearing both graphically (as a bar that is green, yellow, or red depending on how much HP is left) and as a current/total amount below the bar. Currently, {{P|Blissey}} has the highest HP stat among all the Pokémon in the game with a whopping 255 Base HP. The average HP Stat is 68 of all Pokémon, and the average for all fully evolved Pokémon is 80. If a Pokémon has more than half their HP, the color remains green, and if the Pokémon is between half or more than 1/4 their HP, the Pokémon HP will turn yellow (In Gold, Silver, and Crystal, if a player uses a revive the color would be green when revived to half of the player's Pokémon). If a Pokémon has less than 1/4 of their HP remaining, the color will turn red and a beeping sound (Generations I-IV) or a change of battle music with the beep as a metronome (Generation V) will notify the player that his or her Pokémon is in danger of [[fainting]] and will continue playing until the Pokémon is switched out, treated to a [[Potion|healing item]], or faints.<br />
<br />
====Attack====<br />
The '''Attack''' stat determines how much damage a Pokémon can deal using a [[physical move]]. {{p|Deoxys}} in its Attack Forme currently holds the honor of having the highest Attack stat among all the Pokémon, with 180. {{p|Rampardos}} currently has the highest Attack stat of all non-legendary Pokémon with 165. The average Attack Stat is 75 for all Pokémon, and the average for all fully evolved Pokémon is 90.<br />
<br />
====Defense====<br />
[[File:StatsDP.png|frame|Summary Screen from {{game|Diamond and Pearl|s}} showing {{p|Piplup}}'s stats]]<br />
The '''Defense''' stat determines how much damage a Pokémon receives when it is hit with a physical move. {{p|Shuckle}} currently holds the highest Defense stat among all the Pokémon in the game with 230. The average Defense stat is 70 for all Pokémon, and the average for all fully evolved Pokémon is 83.<br />
<br />
====Special====<br />
The '''Special''' stat determines how much damage a Pokémon both receives and deals in regards to [[special move]]s. The Special stat was divided into Special Attack and Special Defense in terms of [[base stats]] in [[Generation II]], and further divided in terms of [[Individual values|IV]]s and [[Effort values|EV]]s in [[Generation III]]. {{p|Mewtwo}} had the highest Special stat among all the Pokémon in the generation in which the stat existed.<br />
<br />
=====Special Attack=====<br />
The '''Special Attack''' stat determines how much damage a Pokémon can deal using a [[special move]]. {{p|Deoxys}}, when it is in Attack Forme, currently holds the highest Special Attack stat among all the Pokémon with 180. {{p|Chandelure}} currently has the highest Special Attack stat of all non-legendary Pokémon, at 145. Mewtwo currently has the highest Special Attack of all non-event Pokémon with 154. The average Special Attack Stat is 69 for all Pokémon, and the average for all fully evolved Pokémon is 83.<br />
<br />
=====Special Defense=====<br />
The '''Special Defense''' stat determines how much damage a Pokémon receives when it is hit with a special move. Shuckle also holds the highest Special Defense stat among all the Pokémon with 230. The average Special Defense Stat is 69 for all Pokémon, and the average for all fully evolved Pokémon is 83.<br />
<br />
====Speed====<br />
The '''Speed''' stat determines how quickly a Pokémon can act in battle. Pokémon with higher speed will make a [[move]] before ones with lower speed under normal conditions. {{p|Deoxys}} in its Speed Forme currently holds the honor of having the highest Speed among all the Pokémon with 180. {{p|Ninjask}} currently has the highest Speed of all non-legendary Pokémon with 160. The average Speed Stat is 66 for all Pokémon, and the average for all fully evolved Pokémon is 78.<br />
<br />
The speed stat is not used in [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon]]; however, [[Movement Speed]] is considered its analogue in that series.<br />
<br />
===In-battle stats===<br />
====Evasion====<br />
The '''Evasion''' stat determines the percent chance that an opponent's move will miss. The initial value at the start of any battle is 100%. If the stat is decreased below 100% with a move such as {{m|Sweet Scent}}, then the opposing Pokémon has a better chance of connecting its move. If the stat is increased above 100% with a move such as {{m|Double Team}}, the opposing Pokémon will have a harder time connecting its moves. It was called '''"evade"''' in [[Generation I]].<br />
<br />
====Accuracy====<br />
The '''Accuracy''' stat determines the percent chance an attacker's move will hit. The initial value at the start of any battle is 100%. Along with Accuracy-raising moves, in {{Pokémon XD}} the player can also raise a Pokémon's Accuracy by using the call action. <br />
<br />
====Formula for accuracy and evasion====<br />
The probability that a move will hit is calculated as follows:<br />
<br />
[[File:Accuracy_calc.png]]<br />
<br />
Where:<br />
*''A<sub>base</sub>'' is the base accuracy of the move (in percent - e.g. a base accuracy of 95 is counted as 0.95),<br />
*''Accuracy'' is the current Accuracy stat of the user (in percent - e.g. raising accuracy by three stages raises this number to 2), and<br />
*''Evasion'' is the current Evasion stat of the target (in percent - e.g. lowering evasion by two stages lowers this number to 0.6).<br />
<br />
If P is greater than 1, the move will surely hit. In a 2-on-2 battle, it is possible for a move that hits two or three targets to miss some of the targets and hit others - the probabilities are calculated individually for each move.<br />
<br />
==Determination of stats==<br />
===Base stats===<br />
A Pokémon's [[base stats]] will most often have the greatest influence over their specific stats at any level. Disregarding individual values, effort values, and [[Nature]], a level 100 Pokémon's stats in Attack, Defense, Speed, Special Attack, and Special Defense will be exactly 5 more than double its base stats in each, while the HP stat will be 110 plus double the base stat (except in the case of {{p|Shedinja}}, whose HP is always 1).<br />
<br />
For a list of Pokémon by their base stat values, see the [[list of Pokémon by base stats]].<br />
<br />
===Level===<br />
{{main|Level}}<br />
When a Pokémon grows a level, its stats will increase. For each level gained (ignoring nature), stats will increase by 1/50 the base stat value, and 1/100 the combined individual value and effort value. This means that it is impossible, through leveling up, for a Pokémon to ever ''lose'' points in a stat unless it evolves into a Pokémon with a lower base stat value for that specific stat.<br />
<br />
===Nature===<br />
{{main|Nature}}<br />
Most natures enhance the growth of one stat, while hindering the growth of another. After all other calculations are finished, the stat that the nature enhances will be 110% of what it would be without the nature, and the stat hindered will be 90% of its normal value.<br />
<br />
===Individual values===<br />
{{main|Individual values}}<br />
Individual values cause two Pokémon of the same species to have different stats. Between generations there are different manners of determining them.<br />
<br />
===Effort values===<br />
{{main|Effort values}}<br />
Effort values are what cause a trained Pokémon to have higher stats than an untrained counterpart of the same level. For every 4 EVs gained, a level 100 Pokémon will have 1 extra point in its stats. Variance of stats caused by EVs reaches a maximum of 63 points at level 100, as a Pokémon can gain a maximum of 255 EVs in a single stat.<br />
<br />
===Formula===<br />
:''See also: [[Damage modification#Damage formula|Damage calculation]]''<br />
====In Generations I and II====<br />
The stat is rounded down if the result is a decimal.<br />
<br />
[[File:HP_calc.png]]<br />
<br />
[[File:Statcalc_gen12.png]]<br />
<br />
=====Example=====<br />
Consider a Level 81 Pikachu with the following IV's and EV's:<br />
{| class="roundy" align="center" style="background: #{{electric color dark}}; border: 5px solid #{{electric color}}"<br />
|- <br />
! style="background:#{{electric color light}}; {{roundytl|5px}} width:60px;" | <br />
! style="background:#{{HP color}}; width:60px;" | HP<br />
! style="background:#{{Attack color}}; width:60px;" | Attack<br />
! style="background:#{{Defense color}}; width:60px;" | Defense<br />
! style="background:#{{Speed color}}; width:60px;" | Speed<br />
! style="background:#{{Special Attack color}}; width:60px;" | Sp.Atk<br />
! style="background:#{{Special Defense color}}; width:60px;" | Sp.Def<br />
! style="background:#{{electric color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}} width:60px;" | Total<br />
|- align="center" style="background:#fff;"<br />
!style="background:#{{electric color light}};" |Base stat <br />
|35<br />
|55<br />
|30<br />
|90<br />
|50<br />
|40<ref>In Generation I, this stat did not exist. The Pikachu's Special stat would simply be 50.</ref><br />
|'''300'''<br />
|- align="center" style="background:#fff;"<br />
!style="background:#{{electric color light}};" |IV<br />
|'''''7'''''<ref>This is calculated as shown in the {{IV}} article.</ref><br />
|8<br />
|13<br />
|5<br />
|colspan="2" |9<ref>In the first two generations, the Special IV was unified.</ref><br />
|'''42'''<br />
|- align="center" style="background:#fff;"<br />
!style="background:#{{electric color light}};" |EV<br />
|22850<br />
|23140<br />
|17280<br />
|24795<br />
|colspan="2" |19625<br />
|'''107690'''<br />
|}<br />
<small><references /></small><br />
<br />
Its HP can be calculated as follows:<br />
<br />
[[Image:StatExampleHPGen2.png]]<br />
[[Image:StatExampleHPGen2_2.png]]<br />
<br />
Its Speed can be calculated as follows:<br />
<br />
[[Image:StatExampleSpeedGen2_1.png]]<br />
[[Image:StatExampleSpeedGen2_2.png]]<br />
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<br />
Its Special Attack and Special Defense stats simply rely on the Special EV and IV.<br />
<br />
[[Image:StatExampleSpAtkGen2_1.png]]<br />
[[Image:StatExampleSpAtkGen2_2.png]]<br />
<br />
[[Image:StatExampleSpDefGen2_1.png]]<br />
[[Image:StatExampleSpDefGen2_2.png]]<br />
<br />
In the end, this Pikachu's stats are:<br />
<br />
{| class="roundy" align="center" style="background: #{{electric color dark}}; border: 5px solid #{{electric color}}"<br />
|- <br />
! style="background:#{{electric color light}}; {{roundytl|5px}} width:60px;" | <br />
! style="background:#{{HP color}}; width:60px;" | HP<br />
! style="background:#{{Attack color}}; width:60px;" | Attack<br />
! style="background:#{{Defense color}}; width:60px;" | Defense<br />
! style="background:#{{Speed color}}; width:60px;" | Speed<br />
! style="background:#{{Special Attack color}}; width:60px;" | Sp.Atk<br />
! style="background:#{{Special Defense color}}; {{roundytr|5px}} width:60px;" | Sp.Def<br />
|- align="center" style="background:#fff;"<br />
! style="background:#{{electric color light}};"| Base stat<br />
|35<br />
|55<br />
|30<br />
|90<br />
|50<br />
|40<br />
|- align="center" style="background:#fff;"<br />
! style="background:#{{electric color light}};"| IV<br />
|'''''7'''''<br />
|8<br />
|13<br />
|5<br />
|colspan="2" |9<br />
|- align="center" style="background:#fff;"<br />
! style="background:#{{electric color light}};"| EV<br />
|22850<br />
|23140<br />
|17280<br />
|24795<br />
|colspan="2" |19625<br />
|- align="center" style="background:#fff;"<br />
! style="background:#{{electric color light}};"| Total<br />
|'''189'''<br />
|'''137'''<br />
|'''101'''<br />
|'''190'''<br />
|'''128'''<br />
|'''112'''<br />
|}<br />
<br />
Note that some numbers may be off by one due to rounding.<br />
<br />
====In Generations III and IV====<br />
The stat is rounded down if the result is a decimal. It is also rounded down before the nature mutiplier, if any, is applied.<br />
<br />
[[File:HPStatCalcGen34.png]]<br />
<br />
[[File:OtherStatCalcGen34.png]]<br />
<br />
These formulas mean that, aside from {{p|Shedinja}}'s HP, which is always 1, the lowest a stat can ever possibly be is 4.<br />
<br />
=====Example=====<br />
Consider a Level 78 {{p|Garchomp}} with the following IV's and EV's and an '''Adamant''' nature:<br />
<br />
{| class="roundy" align="center" style="background: #{{Dragon color dark}}; border: 5px solid #{{Dragon color}};"<br />
|- <br />
! style="background:#{{ground color light}}; {{roundytl|5px}} width:60px;" | <br />
! style="background:#{{HP color}}; width:60px;" | HP<br />
! style="background:#{{Attack color}}; width:60px;" | Attack<br />
! style="background:#{{Defense color}}; width:60px;" | Defense<br />
! style="background:#{{Speed color}}; width:60px;" | Speed<br />
! style="background:#{{Special Attack color}}; width:60px;" | Sp.Atk<br />
! style="background:#{{Special Defense color}}; width:60px;" | Sp.Def<br />
! style="background:#{{ground color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}} width:60px;" | Total<br />
|- align="center" style="background:#fff;"<br />
! style="background:#{{ground color light}};"| Base stat<br />
|108<br />
|130<br />
|95<br />
|102<br />
|80<br />
|85<br />
|'''600'''<br />
|- align="center" style="background:#fff;"<br />
! style="background:#{{ground color light}};"|IV<br />
|24<br />
|12<br />
|30<br />
|5<br />
|16<br />
|23<br />
|'''110'''<br />
|- align="center" style="background:#fff;"<br />
! style="background:#{{ground color light}};"|EV<br />
|74<br />
|195<br />
|86<br />
|23<br />
|48<br />
|84<br />
|'''510'''<br />
|}<br />
Its HP can be calculated as follows:<br />
<br />
[[Image:StatExampleHPGen4.png]]<br />
[[Image:StatExampleHPGen4_2.png]]<br />
<br />
The Adamant nature raises Attack and lowers Special Attack. This means that when calculating the Attack stat, ''Nature'' = 1.1, and when calculating the Special Attack stat, ''Nature'' = 0.9. So this Garchomp's Attack stat will be:<br />
<br />
[[Image:StatExampleAttackGen4_1.png]]<br />
[[Image:StatExampleAttackGen4_2.png]]<br />
<br />
And its Special Attack stat will be:<br />
<br />
[[Image:StatExampleSpAtkGen4_1.png]]<br />
[[Image:StatExampleSpAtkGen4_2.png]]<br />
<br />
Its Speed stat, on the other hand, has no ''Nature'' multiplier, so it is calculated as:<br />
<br />
[[Image:StatExampleSpeedGen4_1.png]]<br />
[[Image:StatExampleSpeedGen4_2.png]]<br />
<br />
In the end, this Garchomp's stats are as follows:<br />
<br />
{| class="roundy" align="center" style="background: #{{Dragon color dark}}; border: 5px solid #{{Dragon color}};"<br />
|- <br />
! style="background:#{{ground color light}}; {{roundytl|5px}} width:60px;" | <br />
! style="background:#{{HP color}}; width:60px;" | HP<br />
! style="background:#{{Attack color}}; width:60px;" | Attack<br />
! style="background:#{{Defense color}}; width:60px;" | Defense<br />
! style="background:#{{Speed color}}; width:60px;" | Speed<br />
! style="background:#{{Special Attack color}}; width:60px;" | Sp.Atk<br />
! style="background:#{{Special Defense color}}; {{roundytr|5px}} width:60px;" | Sp.Def<br />
|- align="center" style="background:#fff;"<br />
! style="background:#{{ground color light}};"|Base stat<br />
|108<br />
|130<br />
|95<br />
|102<br />
|80<br />
|85<br />
|- align="center" style="background:#fff;"<br />
! style="background:#{{ground color light}};"|IV<br />
|24<br />
|12<br />
|30<br />
|5<br />
|16<br />
|23<br />
|- align="center" style="background:#fff;"<br />
! style="background:#{{ground color light}};"|EV<br />
|74<br />
|195<br />
|86<br />
|23<br />
|48<br />
|84<br />
|- align="center" style="background:#fff;"<br />
! style="background:#{{ground color light}};"|Total<br />
|'''289'''<br />
|style="color: #006000;" |'''280'''<br />
|'''193'''<br />
|'''172'''<br />
|style="color: #600000;" |'''135'''<br />
|'''171'''<br />
|}<br />
Note that some numbers may be off by one due to rounding.<br />
<br />
==Stat modifiers==<br />
Some [[move]]s and [[Ability|abilities]] can change stats during battle, raising them and lowering them as part of the effect. Some [[item]]s will also do this.<br />
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In-battle stat modifiers multiply specific stats by a certain amount, meaning that a higher starting stat will have a bigger change. For each stat, there are six stages of increase, and six stages of decrease. The stages are cumulative: adding a stage of increase, and then a stage of decrease, results in no net change to the stat. The six stages of increase are x1.5, x2.0, x2.5, x3.0, x3.5, and x4.0. The six stages of decrease are 2/3, 1/2, 2/5, 1/3, 2/7, and 1/4. Accuracy and Evasion modifications are calculated in a different manner<ref>According to [http://www.smogon.com/forums/showpost.php?p=341891&postcount=7 this post] on the Smogon University forums, the formula simply uses a base numerator and denominator of 3 instead of 2 (that is, the modifiers are instead x1.33, x1.66, x2.0, etc. on the plus side and x0.75, x0.60, x0.5, etc. on the minus side).</ref>. However, in the [[Generation I]] handheld games, the accuracy and evasion modifiers are the same as the normal stat modifiers<ref>[http://wiki.ポケモン.com/wiki/命中 Pokémon Wiki page on Hit calculation (JP)] The first section pertains to Generation I.</ref>; this was changed in the Japanese version of [[Pokémon Stadium (English)|Pokémon Stadium]] and all international versions. <br />
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Some modifiers, such as {{a|Huge Power}} and {{a|Pure Power}}, do not work with the above stages, and thus can stack on top of them. For example, a Pokémon with Pure Power and six stages of increase in Attack would have eight times its normal attack.<br />
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In [[Generation IV]], during a {{DL|Weather conditions|Sandstorm}}, all {{type2|Rock}} Pokémon gain 50% Special Defense, which does not work with stages.<br />
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All stat modifiers listed below, except the [[vitamin]]s and the EV [[Berry|Berries]], will increase the corresponding stats only for the battle that they are used in.<br />
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{| align="center" style="background: #999; -moz-border-radius: 10px; border: 5px solid #cdcdcd"<br />
|- <br />
! rowspan="2" style="background:#ccc; -moz-border-radius-topleft: 5px;" | Stat<br />
! colspan="4" style="background:#ccc" | Raisers<br />
! colspan="3" style="background:#ccc; -moz-border-radius-topright: 5px;" | Reducers<br />
|- style="background: #ccc;"<br />
! {{color2|000|Vitamin}}<br />
! {{color2|000|Move|Moves}}<br />
! {{color2|000|Ability|Abilities}}<br />
! {{color2|000|Item|Items}}<br />
! {{color2|000|Move|Moves}}<br />
! {{color2|000|Ability|Abilities}}<br />
! {{color2|000|Effort Values|EV}} {{color2|000|Berry|Berry}}<br />
|- align=center<br />
! style="background:#{{attack color}}" | {{color2|{{attack color dark}}|Stat#Attack|Attack}}<br />
| style="background:#{{attack color light}}" | {{color2|{{attack color dark}}|Vitamin#Protein|Protein}}<br />
| style="background:#{{attack color light}}" <!-- ATTACK RAISING MOVES -->| {{mcolor|Acupressure|{{attack color dark}}}}{{tt|*|Boosts a random stat by two stages.}}<br>{{mcolor|AncientPower|{{attack color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|Belly Drum|{{attack color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|Bulk Up|{{attack color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|Coil|{{attack color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|Curse|{{attack color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|Dragon Dance|{{attack color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|Growth|{{attack color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|Hone Claws|{{attack color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|Howl|{{attack color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|Meditate|{{attack color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|Metal Claw|{{attack color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|Meteor Mash|{{attack color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|Ominous Wind|{{attack color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|Sharpen|{{attack color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|Shell Smash|{{attack color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|Silver Wind|{{attack color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|Swagger|{{attack color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|Swords Dance|{{attack color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|Work Up|{{attack color dark}}}}<br />
<br />
| style="background:#{{attack color light}}" <!-- ATTACK RAISING ABILITIES -->| {{acolor|Anger Point|{{attack color dark}}}}<br>{{acolor|Contrary|{{attack color dark}}}} <br>{{acolor|Defiant|{{attack color dark}}}} <br>{{acolor|Download|{{attack color dark}}}}{{tt|*|Download raises by one stage the Attack stat if the opponent's Defense stat is lower than its Special Defense, and the Special Attack otherwise.}}<br>{{acolor|Flower Gift|{{attack color dark}}}}<br>{{acolor|Guts|{{attack color dark}}}}<br>{{acolor|Huge Power|{{attack color dark}}}}<br>{{acolor|Hustle|{{attack color dark}}}}<br>{{acolor|Justified|{{attack color dark}}}}<br>{{acolor|Pure Power|{{attack color dark}}}}<br>{{acolor|Rivalry|{{attack color dark}}}}{{tt|*|Changes stats depending on the opponents gender}}<br>{{acolor|Sap Sipper|{{attack color dark}}}}<br>{{acolor|Moody|{{attack color dark}}}}{{tt|*|Moody raises a random stat and lowers a random stat each turn}}<br />
<br />
| style="background:#{{attack color light}}" <!-- ATTACK RAISING ITEMS -->| {{color2|{{attack color dark}}|Liechi Berry}}<br>{{color2|{{attack color dark}}|Light Ball}}<br>{{color2|{{attack color dark}}|Starf Berry}}{{tt|*|Boosts a random stat other than Accuracy and Evasion by two stages when consumed.}}<br>{{color2|{{attack color dark}}|Thick Club}}<br>{{color2|{{attack color dark}}|X Attack}}<br />
<br />
| style="background:#{{attack color light}}" <!-- ATTACK LOWERING MOVES -->| {{mcolor|Aurora Beam|{{attack color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|Charm|{{attack color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|FeatherDance|{{attack color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|Growl|{{attack color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|Memento|{{attack color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|Secret Power|{{attack color dark}}}}{{tt|*|Secret Power's effect depends on the terrain.}}<br>{{mcolor|Superpower|{{attack color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|Tickle|{{attack color dark}}}}<br />
<br />
| style="background:#{{attack color light}}" <!-- ATTACK LOWERING ABILITIES -->| {{acolor|Contrary|{{attack color dark}}}} <br>{{acolor|Intimidate|{{attack color dark}}}}<br>{{acolor|Slow Start|{{attack color dark}}}}<br>{{acolor|Rivalry|{{attack color dark}}}}{{tt|*|Changes stats depending on the opponents gender}}<br>{{acolor|Moody|{{attack color dark}}}}{{tt|*|Moody raises a random stat and lowers a random stat each turn}}<br />
<br />
| style="background:#{{attack color light}}" <!-- ATTACK LOWERING ITEMS -->| {{color2|{{attack color dark}}|Kelpsy Berry}}<br />
|- align=center<br />
! style="background:#{{defense color}}" | {{color2|{{defense color dark}}|Stat#Defense|Defense}}<br />
| style="background:#{{defense color light}}" | {{color2|{{defense color dark}}|Vitamin#Iron|Iron}}<br />
<br />
| style="background:#{{defense color light}}" <!-- DEFENSE RAISING MOVES -->| {{mcolor|Acid Armor|{{defense color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|Acupressure|{{defense color dark}}}}{{tt|*|Boosts a random stat by two stages.}}<br>{{mcolor|AncientPower|{{defense color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|Barrier|{{defense color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|Bulk Up|{{defense color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|Coil|{{defense color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|Cosmic Power|{{defense color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|Cotton Guard|{{defense color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|Curse|{{defense color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|Defend Order|{{defense color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|Defense Curl|{{defense color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|Harden|{{defense color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|Iron Defense|{{defense color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|Ominous Wind|{{defense color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|Silver Wind|{{defense color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|Skull Bash|{{defense color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|Steel Wing|{{defense color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|Stockpile|{{defense color dark}}}}{{tt|*|Generation IV and V}}<br>{{mcolor|Withdraw|{{defense color dark}}}}<br />
<br />
| style="background:#{{defense color light}}" <!-- DEFENSE RAISING ABILITIES -->| {{acolor|Contrary|{{defense color dark}}}} <br>{{acolor|Marvel Scale|{{defense color dark}}}}<br>{{acolor|Moody|{{defense color dark}}}}{{tt|*|Moody raises a random stat and lowers a random stat each turn}}<br />
<br />
| style="background:#{{defense color light}}" <!-- DEFENSE RAISING ITEMS -->| {{color2|{{defense color dark}}|Ganlon Berry}}<br>{{color2|{{defense color dark}}|Metal Powder}}<br>{{color2|{{defense color dark}}|Starf Berry}}{{tt|*|Boosts a random stat other than Accuracy and Evasion by two stages when consumed.}}<br>{{color2|{{defense color dark}}|X Defend}}<br />
<br />
| style="background:#{{defense color light}}" <!-- DEFENSE LOWERING MOVES -->| {{mcolor|Close Combat|{{defense color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|Crunch|{{defense color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|Crush Claw|{{defense color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|Iron Tail|{{defense color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|Leer|{{defense color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|Rock Smash|{{defense color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|Screech|{{defense color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|Secret Power|{{defense color dark}}}}{{tt|*|Secret Power's effect depends on the terrain.}}<br>{{mcolor|Shell Smash|{{defense color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|Superpower|{{defense color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|Tail Whip|{{defense color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|Tickle|{{defense color dark}}}}<br />
<br />
| style="background:#{{defense color light}}" <!-- DEFENSE LOWERING ABILITIES -->| {{acolor|Contrary|{{defense color dark}}}}<br>{{color|{{defense color dark}}|Moody}}{{tt|*|Moody raises a random stat and lowers a random stat each turn}}<br />
<br />
| style="background:#{{defense color light}}" <!-- DEFENSE LOWERING ITEMS -->| {{color2|{{defense color dark}}|Qualot Berry}}<br />
|- align=center<br />
! style="background:#{{special attack color}}" | {{color2|{{special Attack color dark}}|Stat#Special Attack|Special Attack}}<br />
| style="background:#{{special attack color light}}" | {{color2|{{special Attack color dark}}|Vitamin#Calcium|Calcium}}<br />
<br />
| style="background:#{{special attack color light}}" <!-- SPECIAL ATTACK RAISING MOVES -->| {{mcolor|Acupressure|{{special attack color dark}}}}{{tt|*|Boosts a random stat by two stages.}}<br>{{mcolor|AncientPower|{{special attack color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|Calm Mind|{{special attack color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|Charge Beam|{{special attack color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|Flatter|{{special attack color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|Growth|{{special attack color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|Nasty Plot|{{special attack color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|Ominous Wind|{{special attack color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|Shell Smash|{{special attack color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|Silver Wind|{{special attack color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|Tail Glow|{{special attack color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|Quiver Dance|{{special attack color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|Work Up|{{special attack color dark}}}}<br />
<br />
| style="background:#{{special attack color light}}" <!-- SPECIAL ATTACK RAISING ABILITIES -->| {{acolor|Download|{{special attack color dark}}}}{{tt|*|Download raises by one stage the Attack stat if the opponent's Defense stat is lower than its Special Defense, and the Special Attack otherwise.}}<br>{{acolor|Flower Gift|{{special attack color dark}}}}<br>{{acolor|Lightningrod|{{special attack color dark}}}}{{tt|*|Generation V}}<br>{{acolor|Minus|{{special attack color dark}}}}<br>{{acolor|Plus|{{special attack color dark}}}}<br>{{acolor|Solar Power|{{special attack color dark}}}}<br>{{acolor|Moody|{{special attack color dark}}}}{{tt|*|Moody raises a random stat and lowers a random stat each turn}}<br />
<br />
| style="background:#{{special attack color light}}" <!-- SPECIAL ATTACK RAISING ITEMS -->| {{color2|{{special attack color dark}}|DeepSeaTooth}}<br>{{color2|{{special attack color dark}}|Light Ball}}<br>{{color2|{{special attack color dark}}|Petaya Berry}}<br>{{color2|{{special attack color dark}}|Soul Dew}}<br>{{color2|{{special attack color dark}}|Starf Berry}}{{tt|*|Boosts a random stat other than Accuracy and Evasion by two stages when consumed.}}<br>{{color2|{{special attack color dark}}|X Special}}<br />
<br />
| style="background:#{{special attack color light}}" <!-- SPECIAL ATTACK LOWERING MOVES -->| {{mcolor|Captivate|{{special attack color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|Draco Meteor|{{special attack color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|Leaf Storm|{{special attack color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|Memento|{{special attack color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|Mist Ball|{{special attack color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|Overheat|{{special attack color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|Psycho Boost|{{special attack color dark}}}}<br />
<br />
| style="background:#{{special attack color light}}" <!-- SPECIAL ATTACK LOWERING ABILITIES -->| {{color|{{special attack color dark}}|Moody}}{{tt|*|Moody raises a random stat and lowers a random stat each turn}}<br />
<br />
| style="background:#{{special attack color light}}" <!-- SPECIAL ATTACK LOWERING ITEMS -->| {{color2|{{special attack color dark}}|Hondew Berry}}<br />
|- align=center<br />
! style="background:#{{special Defense color}}" | {{color2|{{special Defense color dark}}|Stat#Special Defense|Special Defense}}<br />
| style="background:#{{special Defense color light}}" | {{color2|{{special Defense color dark}}|Vitamin#Zinc|Zinc}}<br />
<br />
| style="background:#{{special Defense color light}}" <!-- SPECIAL DEFENSE RAISING MOVES -->| {{mcolor|Acupressure|{{special defense color dark}}}}{{tt|*|Boosts a random stat by two stages.}}<br>{{mcolor|Amnesia|{{special defense color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|AncientPower|{{special defense color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|Calm Mind|{{special defense color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|Charge|{{special defense color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|Cosmic Power|{{special defense color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|Defend Order|{{special defense color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|Ominous Wind|{{special defense color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|Quiver Dance|{{special defense color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|Silver Wind|{{special defense color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|Stockpile|{{special defense color dark}}}}{{tt|*|Generation IV and V}}<br />
<br />
| style="background:#{{special Defense color light}}" <!-- SPECIAL DEFENSE RAISING ABILITIES -->| {{color|{{special defense color dark}}|Moody}}{{tt|*|Moody raises a random stat and lowers a random stat each turn}}<br />
<br />
| style="background:#{{special Defense color light}}" <!-- SPECIAL DEFENSE RAISING ITEMS -->| {{color2|{{special defense color dark}}|Apicot Berry}}<br>{{color2|{{special defense color dark}}|DeepSeaScale}}<br>{{color2|{{special defense color dark}}|Soul Dew}}<br>{{color2|{{special defense color dark}}|Starf Berry}}{{tt|*|Boosts a random stat other than Accuracy and Evasion by two stages when consumed.}}<br>{{color2|{{special defense color dark}}|X Sp. Def}}<br />
<br />
| style="background:#{{special Defense color light}}" <!-- SPECIAL DEFENSE LOWERING MOVES -->| {{mcolor|Acid|{{special defense color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|Acid Spray|{{special defense color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|Bug Buzz|{{special defense color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|Close Combat|{{special defense color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|Earth Power|{{special defense color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|Energy Ball|{{special defense color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|Fake Tears|{{special defense color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|Flash Cannon|{{special defense color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|Focus Blast|{{special defense color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|Luster Purge|{{special defense color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|Metal Sound|{{special defense color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|Psychic|{{special defense color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|Seed Flare|{{special defense color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|Shadow Ball|{{special defense color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|Shell Smash|{{special defense color dark}}}}<br />
<br />
| style="background:#{{special Defense color light}}" <!-- SPECIAL DEFENSE LOWERING ABILITIES -->| {{color|{{special defense color dark}}|Moody}}{{tt|*|Moody raises a random stat and lowers a random stat each turn}}<br />
<br />
| style="background:#{{special Defense color light}}" <!-- SPECIAL DEFENSE LOWERING ITEMS -->| {{color|{{special defense color dark}}|Grepa Berry}}<br />
|- align=center<br />
! style="background:#{{speed color}}" | {{color2|{{speed color dark}}|Stat#Speed|Speed}}<br />
| style="background:#{{speed color light}}" | {{color2|{{speed color dark}}|Vitamin#Carbos|Carbos}}<br />
<br />
| style="background:#{{speed color light}}" <!-- SPEED RAISING MOVES -->| {{mcolor|Acupressure|{{speed color dark}}}}{{tt|*|Boosts a random stat by two stages.}}<br>{{mcolor|Agility|{{speed color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|AncientPower|{{speed color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|Autotomize|{{speed color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|Dragon Dance|{{speed color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|Ominous Wind|{{speed color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|Quiver Dance|{{speed color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|Rock Polish|{{speed color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|Shell Smash|{{speed color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|Silver Wind|{{speed color dark}}}}<br />
<br />
| style="background:#{{speed color light}}" <!-- SPEED RAISING ABILITIES -->| {{acolor|Chlorophyll|{{speed color dark}}}}<br>{{acolor|Motor Drive|{{speed color dark}}}}<br>{{acolor|Quick Feet|{{speed color dark}}}}<br>{{acolor|Sand Rush|{{speed color dark}}}}<br>{{acolor|Speed Boost|{{speed color dark}}}}<br>{{acolor|Steadfast|{{speed color dark}}}}<br>{{acolor|Swift Swim|{{speed color dark}}}}<br>{{acolor|Unburden|{{speed color dark}}}}<br>{{acolor|Moody|{{speed color dark}}}}{{tt|*|Moody raises a random stat and lowers a random stat each turn}}<br />
<br />
| style="background:#{{speed color light}}" <!-- SPEED RAISING ITEMS -->| {{color2|{{speed color dark}}|Quick Powder}}<br>{{color2|{{speed color dark}}|Salac Berry}}<br>{{color2|{{speed color dark}}|Starf Berry}}{{tt|*|Boosts a random stat other than Accuracy and Evasion by two stages when consumed.}}<br>{{color2|{{speed color dark}}|X Speed}}<br />
<br />
| style="background:#{{speed color light}}" <!-- SPEED LOWERING MOVES -->| {{mcolor|Bubble|{{speed color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|BubbleBeam|{{speed color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|Bulldoze|{{speed color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|Constrict|{{speed color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|Cotton Spore|{{speed color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|Curse|{{speed color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|Hammer Arm|{{speed color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|Icy Wind|{{speed color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|Low Sweep|{{speed color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|Mud Shot|{{speed color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|Rock Tomb|{{speed color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|Scary Face|{{speed color dark}}}}<br>{{mcolor|Secret Power|{{speed color dark}}}}{{tt|*|Secret Power's effects depend on the terrain}}<br>{{mcolor|String Shot|{{speed color dark}}}}<br />
<br />
| style="background:#{{speed color light}}" <!-- SPEED LOWERING ABILITIES -->| {{acolor|Slow Start|{{speed color dark}}}}<br>{{acolor|Moody|{{speed color dark}}}}{{tt|*|Moody raises a random stat and lowers a random stat each turn}}<br />
<br />
| style="background:#{{speed color light}}" <!-- SPEED LOWERING ITEMS -->| {{color2|{{speed color dark}}|Tamato Berry}}<br />
|- align=center<br />
! style="background:#ae58f8" | {{color2|542b77|Stat#Evasion|Evasion}}<br />
| style="background:#d099ff" | {{color|542b77|--}}<br />
<br />
| style="background:#d099ff" <!-- EVASION RAISING MOVES -->| {{mcolor|Acupressure|542b77}}{{tt|*|Boosts a random stat by two stages.}}<br>{{mcolor|Double Team|542b77}}<br>{{mcolor|Minimize|542b77}}<br />
<br />
| style="background:#d099ff" <!-- EVASION RAISING ABILITES -->| {{acolor|Sand Veil|542b77}}<br>{{acolor|Snow Cloak|542b77}}<br>{{acolor|Tangled Feet|542b77}}<br>{{acolor|Moody|542b77}}{{tt|*|Moody raises a random stat and lowers a random stat each turn}}<br />
<br />
| style="background:#d099ff" <!-- EVASION RAISING ITEMS -->| {{color|542b77|BrightPowder}}<br>{{color|542b77|Lax Incense}}<br />
<br />
| style="background:#d099ff" <!-- EVASION LOWERING MOVES -->| {{mcolor|Defog|542b77}}<br>{{mcolor|Gravity|542b77}}{{tt|*|Lowers the Evasion of all Pokémon in play by two stages as long as it is active.}}<br>{{mcolor|Sweet Scent|542b77}}<br />
<br />
| style="background:#d099ff" <!-- EVASION LOWERING ABILITIES -->| {{color|542b77|Moody}}{{tt|*|Moody raises a random stat and lowers a random stat each turn}}<br />
<br />
| style="background:#d099ff" <!-- EVASION LOWERING ITEMS -->| {{color|542b77|--}}<br />
|- align=center<br />
! style="background:#58f8f6" | {{color2|2a6f6e|Stat#Accuracy|Accuracy}}<br />
<br />
| style="background:#aefffe" | {{color|2a6f6e|--}}<br />
<br />
| style="background:#aefffe" <!-- ACCURACY RAISING MOVES -->| {{mcolor|Acupressure|2a6f6e}}{{tt|*|Boosts a random stat by two stages.}}<br>{{mcolor|Hone Claws|2a6f6e}}<br>{{mcolor|Coil|2a6f6e}}<br />
<br />
| style="background:#aefffe" <!-- ACCURACY RAISING ABILITIES -->| {{acolor|Compoundeyes|2a6f6e}}<br>{{acolor|Moody|2a6f6e}}{{tt|*|Moody raises a random stat and lowers a random stat each turn}}<br />
<br />
| style="background:#aefffe" <!-- ACCURACY RAISING ITEMS -->| {{color2|2a6f6e|Wide Lens}}<br>{{color2|2a6f6e|X Accuracy}}<br>{{color2|2a6f6e|Zoom Lens}}<br />
<br />
|style="background:#aefffe" <!-- ACCURACY LOWERING MOVES -->| {{mcolor|Flash|2a6f6e}}<br>{{mcolor|Kinesis|2a6f6e}}<br>{{mcolor|Mirror Shot|2a6f6e}}<br>{{mcolor|Mud Bomb|2a6f6e}}<br>{{mcolor|Mud-Slap|2a6f6e}}<br>{{mcolor|Muddy Water|2a6f6e}}<br>{{mcolor|Octazooka|2a6f6e}}<br>{{mcolor|Sand-Attack|2a6f6e}}<br>{{mcolor|Secret Power|2a6f6e}}{{tt|*|Secret Power's effects depend on the terrain}}<br>{{mcolor|SmokeScreen|2a6f6e}}<br />
<br />
| style="background:#aefffe" <!-- ACCURACY LOWERING ABILITIES -->| {{acolor|Hustle|2a6f6e}}<br>{{acolor|Moody|2a6f6e}}{{tt|*|Moody raises a random stat and lowers a random stat each turn}}<br />
<br />
| style="background:#aefffe" <!-- ACCURACY LOWERING ITEMS -->| {{color|2a6f6e|--}}<br />
|}<br />
<br />
===Stages===<br />
When a [[status move]] is used that is meant to increase or decrease a stat of an in-use party or foe Pokémon it will be measured according to the following fractions<ref>Stage numbers from [http://www.psypokes.com/lab/stats.php Psypokes.com], some fractions simplified.</ref>:<br />
<br />
<br />
;For Attack, Defense, Sp. Attack, Sp. Defense and Speed<br />
{| align="center" style="background: #FAFAD2; -moz-border-radius: 10px; border: 3px solid #000000" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" <br />
|+ '''Stage power'''<br />
|-<br />
! scope="row" |<br />
| scope="col" colspan="6"|<center>'''Subtractive moves'''</center>|| '''<center>Base</center>''' || colspan="6"|<center>'''Supplemental moves'''</center><br />
|-<br />
! scope="row" | Stage<br />
| scope="col" | -6 || -5 || -4 || -3 || -2 || -1 || <center>0</center> || +1|| +2 || +3 || +4 || +5 || <center>+6</center><br />
|-<br />
! scope="row" | Fraction (x)<br />
| scope="col" | <sup>2</sup>/<sub>8</sub> || <sup>2</sup>/<sub>7</sub> || <sup>2</sup>/<sub>6</sub> || <sup>2</sup>/<sub>5</sub> || <sup>2</sup>/<sub>4</sub> || <sup>2</sup>/<sub>3</sub> || <center>1</center> || 1<sup>1</sup>/<sub>2</sub> || <center>2</center> || 2<sup>1</sup>/<sub>2</sub> || <center>3</center> ||3<sup>1</sup>/<sub>2</sub> || <center>4</center><br />
|-<br />
! scope="row" | Percentage<br />
| scope="col" |25% || 29% || 33% || 40% || 50% || 67% || <center>100%</center> || 150% || 200% || 250% || 300% || 350% || 400%<br />
|}<br />
<br />
<br />
;For Accuracy and Evasion<br />
{| align="center" style="background: #FAFAD2; -moz-border-radius: 10px; border: 3px solid #000000" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" <br />
|+ '''Stage power'''<br />
|-<br />
! scope="row" |<br />
| scope="col" colspan="6"|<center>'''Subtractive moves'''</center>|| '''<center>Base</center>''' || colspan="6"|<center>'''Supplemental moves'''</center><br />
|-<br />
! scope="row" | Stage<br />
| scope="col" | -6 || -5 || -4 || -3 || -2 || -1 || <center>0</center> || +1|| +2 || +3 || +4 || +5 || <center>+6</center><br />
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! scope="row" | Fraction (x)<br />
| scope="col" | <sup>3</sup>/<sub>9</sub> || <sup>3</sup>/<sub>8</sub> || <sup>3</sup>/<sub>7</sub> || <sup>3</sup>/<sub>6</sub> || <sup>3</sup>/<sub>5</sub> || <sup>3</sup>/<sub>4</sub> || <center>1</center> || 1<sup>1</sup>/<sub>3</sub> || 1<sup>2</sup>/<sub>3</sub> || 2 || 2<sup>1</sup>/<sub>3</sub> ||2<sup>2</sup>/<sub>3</sub> || <center>3</center><br />
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! scope="row" | Percentage<br />
| scope="col" |33% || 38% || 43% || 50% || 60% || 75% || <center>100%</center> || 133% || 167% || 200% || 233% || 267% || 300%<br />
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==Notes==<br />
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[[pt:Atributo Pokémon]]</div>Phoenixonhttps://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Stat&diff=1433048Talk:Stat2011-05-12T13:31:20Z<p>Phoenixon: /* Trading and level up */ new section</p>
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<div>In the modifiers table, how about items such as Light Ball, Thick Club? [[User:Lahar|Lahar]] 23:16, 22 May 2008 (UTC)<br />
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Whats the maximum for the stats? [[User:Kpokefan|<span style="color:#C0C0C0;">'''K'''</span>]][[User talk:Kpokefan|<span style="color:#50C878;">'''P'''</span>]][[User:Kpokefan/Missions|<span style="color:#FFA6C9;">'''F'''</span>]] 01:32, 23 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Stat modification in battle. ==<br />
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okay, this is probably the best place to raise the question.<br />
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the stat altering moves change stats in "levels" of up to six. how much does each "level" change the stats by? If this is already listed somewhere, i don't know where to find it.<br />
:As far as I can tell, it works like this<nowiki>:</nowiki> Unmodified, stats are multiplied by 2/2 (with the exception of evasion and accuracy, which use 3/3 instead). Raising a stat by one level adds 1 to the numerator, whereas lowering by one level adds 1 to the denominator. This means that if you use a move like [[Growl]], the opponent's attack stat is multiplied by 2/3. Using it again changes 2/3 to 2/4, a.k.a. 1/2, and if you use it again it goes to 2/5, then 2/6, (or 1/3,) etc. --[[User:Legollama|Legollama]] 02:09, 25 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
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: Do negative stat changes in battle stay even after you switch out?[[User:Summerscythe|Summerscythe]] 20:34, 21 April 2009 (UTC)<br />
:: No. Switching out resets all stat alterations, +ve or -ve. - [[User:Solarys|Solarys]] 06:03, 23 May 2009 (UTC)<br />
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==Speed question==<br />
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If two Pokémon have the same speed stat in battle, what determines which will attack first? [[User:Lucario12|Lucario12]] 16:48, 2 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
:Good question. I'm sure that it will be chosen randomly. [[User:Tesh|<span style="color:#B7AD96;">'''TESH'''</span>]][[User_talk:Tesh|<span style="color:#B7AD96;">'''IGIGAS'''</span>]] 16:54, 2 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== All Stats Referred to Collectively ==<br />
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It's just an idea but I've noticed something. I've had the idea of instead of just reffering to a Pokemon's indivisual Stats; HP, Attack, Defense, Special Atk, Special Def and Speed, one could refer to all values that effect a battle.<br />
Observe;<br />
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'''S'''pecial Attack<br />
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'''H'''P<br />
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'''A'''ttack<br />
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'''D'''efense<br />
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'''S'''pecial Defense<br />
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'''E'''vasiveness<br />
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'''A'''ccuracy<br />
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'''S'''peed<br />
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Reading the first letter of each Stat forms the word "SHADSEAS" (or an alteration on the order). What do you think? Could it be a new lingo? [[User:Bttsstewart|Bttsstewart]] 17:33, 13 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
:Maybe, but the order seems pretty messy to me, as I'm more comfortable with the order HP-Atk-Def-SPAtk-SPDef-Spd. And&nbsp;remember to sign your comments on talk pages with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>), this was already mentioned in your welcome message (I hope you already read it through). <font color="#3fff00">'''UltimateSephiroth'''</font> <sup>([[User:UltimateSephiroth|<font color="#3f7f00">about me</font>]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|<font color="#3f7f00">chat</font>]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]])</sup> 17:15, 13 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
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Yeah, signed it now [[User:Bttsstewart|Bttsstewart]] 17:33, 13 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Evasion stages/modifiers? ==<br />
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What's the maximum % of evasion a PKMN can have? (I.e. 6 uses of Double Team, Bright Powder and Hail/Sandstorm ability bonus.)<br />
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Firstly, do the items/abilities stack with each other and stages linearly or diminishingly?<br />
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If linearly, it will be 96.67%: 6 stages (9/3 multiplier) = 66.67% evasion + 20% from ability boost + 10% from Bright Powder<br />
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If diminishingly with stages only, it's 76.67%: 66.67% + 6.67%{{tt|*|(100-66.67)×0.2)}} from ability boost + 3.33%{{tt|*|(100-66.67)×0.1)}} from Bright Powder<br />
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Or if diminishingly with each other AND stages, it's around 75~76%, depending on whether the item or ability is accounted for first.<br />
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- [[User:Solarys|Solarys]] 06:01, 23 May 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:I've been wondering this same thing, every time one of my Pokémon will get hit by {{m|Smokescreen}} or {{m|Sand-Attack}}, they miss more then half the time. But additional uses don't seem to make a huge difference. [[User:Derian|&#91;&#91;Derian&#93;&#93;]] 19:00, 16 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
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::They stack diminishingly. So the effects of bright powder/your ability get smaller the more you double team or minimize. However, they remain the same if you sand attack because accuray is a diffrent stat.<br />
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-[[User:Kin-Kyukon|Kin-Kyukon]]<br />
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== Incorrect formulas ==<br />
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Hey, sorry to revert the awesome-looking formula images in the [[Stats#Formula|#Formula]] section to text, but they're incorrect.<br />
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Generations {{gen|III}} and {{gen|IV}} have ''Nature ×'' '''at first''', when [[Stats#Nature|#Nature]] says this:<br />
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: ''After all other calculations are finished, the stat that the nature enhances will be 110% of what it would be without the nature, and the stat hindered will be 90% of its normal value.''<br />
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Generations {{gen|I}} and {{gen|II}} have ''EV / 2048'', when [[Effort values#Generation I]] says the formula is [[File:Statexp.png]].<br />
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And since I don't know how to make those awesome-looking formula images or even update them, I'll leave it to the uploader to modify them. The relevant files are StatFormulaHPGenI.png, StatFormulaGenI.png, StatFormulaHPGen3.png and StatFormulaGen3.png. [[User:Looce|Looce]] 17:09, 1 November 2009 (UTC)<br />
:If you can explicitly point out the corrections to be made, I can get on that for you. When I created the images I was going on the information I was provided with. If it is incorrect, I'm happy to provide a fix given that you tell me what to change it to. &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 23:51, 1 November 2009 (UTC)<br />
:: To the current revision of [[Stats#Formula|#Formula]]'s text. Namely,<br />
::* In Gen I and II, both formulas, update EV/2048 to be squareroot(EV + 3) / 4. Even better would be to say STAT EXP in Gen I and II's formulas instead of EV, because that's what they were known as back then.<br />
:::* So, like this, then?<br />
::: [[File:HP_calc.png]]<br />
::: Except that formula is wrong, because it has to be divided by 8, not 4 (the denominator on the bottom is 50, not 100.) My mistake.[[User:Ztobor|Ztobor]] 03:39, 26 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
::* In Gen III and IV, other status formula, move ''Nature ×'' to the end as '''× Nature'''<br />
:: Though it may be that the ''(... + 50 + ...) / 50'' thing for Gen I and II's HP was correct, even if it's in Gen III and IV as ''+ Level + 10'', so you don't really need to update that. Thanks in advance :) [[User:Looce|Looce]] 03:15, 2 November 2009 (UTC)<br />
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I disagree with changing the terms to the obsolete ones. It is confusing. I have been having problems with the term “effort points” in the last two generations, which I suspect are being used interchangeably for “effort values”. Note that the terms have been changed, but stick to one or the other from then on. Of course it would have been better to have not changed the terms at all, but what’s done is done. [[User:White Phoenix|White Phoenix]] 11:22, 22 November 2009 (UTC)<br />
:Just a little thing for Looce, um... Nature's first because of the transitive property. Notice the parentheticals? Plus, the correct answer is not gotten... '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#DAA520">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#C0C0C0">chidna</span>]]''' 10:06, 27 November 2009 (UTC)<br />
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In the first paragraph under Effort Values, before the formulas, shouldn’t that be “For every 4 ''effort points'' gained, a level 100 Pokémon will have 1 extra point in its stats”? And where did the 50 and 2048 come from? It isn’t mentioned anywhere on this page or in the Effort Values article. So which formula for determining the stat points is correct? 50+(EV/2048) or squareroot(EV+3)/4? [[User:White Phoenix|White Phoenix]] 13:54, 29 November 2009 (UTC)<br />
:: Whoever wrote the current Gen III-IV "Other Stats" formula left Level out of the calculations. Smogon's formula is Stat = (((2 * BaseStat + IV + (EV / 4)) * Level / 100 + 5) * Nature) [[User:Professor|The Professor]] 15:44, 27 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
::: It's been fixed, BTW. My bad. [[User:Ztobor|Ztobor]] 04:19, 14 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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===Now wait a minute!===<br />
Your stat calcs are wrong! Arceus with a 31 IV and 252 EV in HP will have 444 HP. Your calculation gives it a maximum of 394. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#DAA520">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#C0C0C0">chidna</span>]]''' 10:31, 27 November 2009 (UTC)<br />
:Do the math again. It gives exactly 444. --[[User:Miliko|Miliko]] 18:52, 9 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==Nature Factor==<br />
After some tests using the formula on Lv5 Pokémon on my Emerald Rom, I think the Nature factor on it is placed on the wrong place. It should not affect the final "5" on it. I specifically tested it on an Adamant Magikarp with perfect Atk IV, the formula gives me a stat of 8, and in the game it is 7 (I tested the IV with the IV Man). And in other Pokémon (Breloom IIRC), I had the same problem. Could someone test it? --[[User:Miliko|Miliko]] 18:52, 9 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
*You need to truncate (drop the decimals) before applying the nature boost. --[[User:Sp unit 262|sp unit 262]] 03:11, 1 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== What happens with Speed? ==<br />
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When two Pokémon's speeds are equal, they attack first with 50% probability each. If the speeds are a bit off, the probability does not jump to 100%. What actually happens? [[User:Ztobor|Ztobor]] 21:24, 14 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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*I noticed this too, especially in the older generations; I think the higher level one with a slightly lower speed may have a chance to go first. I don't remember seeing this happening in the battle tower/frontier, or link battles, though, even when there's a level difference. ~ [[User:Solarys|Solarys]] 12:16, 14 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:*Btw, you can easily test this on an emulator. Make sure you have a spare slot in your party, and an active Pokémon with non-damaging moves (optional, but preferred). First take note of your active Pokémon's speed, then go fight something with a similar level and base speed. Save a state when you enter the fight, then catch the enemy to see its speed. If it's off from yours by more than, say, 3 points, load your saved state and run; otherwise load your saved state, keep choosing different moves to see whether the faster one always goes first. ~ [[User:Solarys|Solarys]] 12:45, 14 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== In the anime ==<br />
A while back ago I made an edit about how Speed worked in the anime. Is it possible that we could make a seperate section or page that's about how stats work in the anime, because I can definitely see a bit of a difference. For example, Double Team normally raises evasion but it also seems to raise attack power in the anime because all of the clones can attack. --[[User:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma;background:black"><font color="red">'''Land'''</font>]][[User talk:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma;background:black"><small><font color="yellow">'''fish7'''</font></small></span></span>]]''' 00:04, 24 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Well? --[[User:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma;background:black"><font color="red">'''Land'''</font>]][[User talk:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma;background:black"><small><font color="yellow">'''fish7'''</font></small></span></span>]]''' 21:48, 4 November 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Can we please ==<br />
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Make a clear definition of stages? I only get the gist of it. --[[User talk:Venomoth|☯ ]][[User:Venomoth|*Ɣℯ№ӎօṫհ*]][[User talk:Venomoth| ☯]] 00:52, 5 November 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Stages are incredibly simple. Let's say my Pokémon has 420 Attack and it gets hit with FeatherDance (which lowers the Attack stat by two stages). The second stage of decrease is 1/2. 420 * .5 = 210, meaning that whenever damage calculations have to take my Attack stat into consideration, it will use 210 instead of 420.{{unsigned|Hexagon Theory }}<br />
::Thanks, I found some extra info on it. <span style="color:#91A3B0">—</span>[[User:Venomoth|<span style="color:black; font-size: 13pt">'''''V'''e<small>№</small>moth''</span>]][[User talk:Venomoth| ♦]] 09:33, 11 November 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Regarding calculation of successful hit in battle ==<br />
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"If P is greater than 1, the move will surely hit." But what if P isn't greater than 1? Surely it won't always miss... does anybody know anything about the formula that determines successful move hits? [[User:Hexagon Theory|Hexagon Theory]] 21:27, 10 November 2010 (UTC)<br />
:P is just the probability that the move will hit. Probabilities greater than 1 don't make any sense, so it's explicitly stated that they're the same as 1 (i.e., always hit). Once the probability is calculated, the game (in effect) generates a random number between 0 and 1; if P is greater than or equal to this number, the attack hits. --[[User:Minimiscience|Minimiscience]] 16:10, 11 November 2010 (UTC)<br />
::D'you know for certain that the random number is uniformly distributed?{{unsigned|Hexagon Theory}}<br />
:::Technically, no, I don't know that, though I would expect it to be (or, at least, as close to uniform as pseudo-randomness can get you). --[[User:Minimiscience|Minimiscience]] 19:49, 11 November 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Trading and level up ==<br />
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If you have a level 100 Scyther, with a speed of 300, and trade with metal coat, than wouldn't it have a higher speed than a scizor level 100 can have?(its highest according to the sat calculation is 251, and I only used this as an example.) Also, what if you had a level 100 Eevee(with a speed of 229, it's highest possible speed), and for example, you evolve it into a Jolteon, it will still have less than the minimum speed a level 100 Jolteon can have, so how does this work? Do the stats get reset?</div>Phoenixonhttps://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Compound_Eyes_(Ability)&diff=1433035Talk:Compound Eyes (Ability)2011-05-12T13:14:11Z<p>Phoenixon: </p>
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<div>A question.<br />
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For wild pokemon with more than one possible held item, does compoundeyes also increase the odds of the item being rare? {{unsigned|Kendai}} <br />
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No, just increases the possibility of each item to be held. [[User:Tesh|<span style="color:#B7AD96;">'''TESHIGIGAS'''</span>]] 14:54, 10 February 2008 (UTC)<br />
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How does it increase the chance? For example, an item held by 5% of wild pokemon. Is it increased to 50%, 55% or, more likely, 7%? [[User:Smythe|Smythe]] 19:04, 12 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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If I recall, you still aren't guaranteed a 50% rarity item, which would mean that a 5% item would be boosted to 7-8% [[User:Shadowater|Shadowater]] 17:29, 26 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Actually, I think its 55% because in my platinum right now I just got 2 Horseas holding dragon scales, (in a row) even though the original chance is 5%. EDIT: 4 in a row, than one without a dragon scale, than another 3 in a row. [[User:Phoenixon|Phoenixon]] 10:59, 6 May 2011 (UTC)</div>Phoenixonhttps://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Compound_Eyes_(Ability)&diff=1427970Talk:Compound Eyes (Ability)2011-05-06T10:59:27Z<p>Phoenixon: </p>
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<div>A question.<br />
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For wild pokemon with more than one possible held item, does compoundeyes also increase the odds of the item being rare? {{unsigned|Kendai}} <br />
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No, just increases the possibility of each item to be held. [[User:Tesh|<span style="color:#B7AD96;">'''TESHIGIGAS'''</span>]] 14:54, 10 February 2008 (UTC)<br />
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How does it increase the chance? For example, an item held by 5% of wild pokemon. Is it increased to 50%, 55% or, more likely, 7%? [[User:Smythe|Smythe]] 19:04, 12 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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If I recall, you still aren't guaranteed a 50% rarity item, which would mean that a 5% item would be boosted to 7-8% [[User:Shadowater|Shadowater]] 17:29, 26 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
Actually, I think its 55% because in my platinum right now I just got 2 Horseas holding dragon scales, (in a row) even though the original chance is 5%.[[User:Phoenixon|Phoenixon]] 10:59, 6 May 2011 (UTC)</div>Phoenixonhttps://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Ferroseed_(Pok%C3%A9mon)&diff=1426201Ferroseed (Pokémon)2011-05-03T14:19:13Z<p>Phoenixon: /* Trivia */</p>
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<div>{{PokémonPrevNext | prev=Galvantula | next=Ferrothorn| prevnum=596| nextnum=598| type=Grass|type2=Steel }}<br />
{{PokémonInfobox|<br />
name=Ferroseed |<br />
jname=テッシード |<br />
tmname=Tesshido |<br />
size=158px|<br />
art=BW |<br />
pron=<sc>''{{{pron|tes-shi-do}}}''</sc> |<br />
species=<!--とげのみ/Thorny Leech-->Thorn Seed |<br />
typen=2 |<br />
type1=Grass |<br />
type2=Steel |<br />
abilityn=1 |<br />
ability1=Iron Barbs |<br />
ndex=597|<br />
udex=103 |<br />
height-ftin=2'00" |<br />
height-m=0.6 |<br />
weight-lbs=41.5 |<br />
weight-kg=18.8 |<br />
egggroupn=2 |<br />
egggroup1=Plant |<br />
egggroup2=Mineral |<br />
eggcycles=20 |<br />
expyield=61 |<br />
lv100exp=1,000,000 |<br />
gendercode=127 |<br />
color=Gray |<br />
catchrate=255 |<br />
evde=1|<br />
body=01|<br />
pokefordex= |<br />
generation=5 |<br />
footnotes=}}<br />
'''Ferroseed''' ([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese]]: '''テッシード''' ''Tesshido'') is a dual-type {{2t|Grass|Steel}} Pokémon introduced in [[Generation V]].<br />
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It evolves into {{p|Ferrothorn}} starting at level 40.<br />
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==Biology==<br />
===Physiology===<br />
Ferroseed is similar in appearance to a {{wp|durian}}. Both are spherical "plants" that have many thorns around their bodies that are used for protection. Ferroseed have metallic bodies with band-like stripes and green thorns. They also have two small yellow eyes with black pupils.<br />
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====Gender differences====<br />
None<br />
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===Special abilities===<br />
Ferroseed can stick their spikes into cave walls to absorb the minerals from the rocks.<br />
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===Behavior===<br />
When threatened, Ferroseed attacks by shooting a barrage of spikes, which gives it a chance to escape by rolling away.<br />
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===Habitat===<br />
Ferroseed live in [[cave]]s.<br />
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===Diet===<br />
{{main|Pokémon food}}<br />
Ferroseed absorb minerals from rocks.<br />
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==In the anime==<br />
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===Major appearances===<br />
<br />
===Minor appearances===<br />
<br />
==In the manga==<br />
Ferroseed was first seen being released by its trainer after [[Ghetsis]]' speech in [[Accumula Town]]<br />
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==In the TCG==<br />
{{main|Ferroseed (TCG)}}<br />
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==Game data==<br />
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===Pokédex entries===<br />
{{Dex<br />
|type=Grass<br />
|type2=Steel<br />
|gen=5<br />
|blackdex=When threatened, it attacks by shooting a barrage of spikes, which gives it a chance to escape by rolling away.<br />
|whitedex=They stick their spikes into cave walls and absorb the minerals they find in the rock.<br />
}}<br />
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===Game locations===<br />
{{Availability|<br />
type=Grass|<br />
type2=Steel|<br />
gen=5 |<br />
bwrarity=Uncommon|<br />
bwarea=[[Chargestone Cave]] |<br />
}}<br />
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====In side games====<br />
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===Held items===<br />
{{HeldItems<br />
|type=grass|type2=steel<br />
|bw1=Sticky Barb|bw1type=In-battle effect item|bw1rar=5|<br />
}}<br />
<br />
===Stats===<br />
====Base stats====<br />
{{BaseStats|<br />
type=Grass|<br />
type2=Steel|<br />
HP=44|<br />
Attack=50|<br />
Defense=91|<br />
SpAtk=24|<br />
SpDef=86|<br />
Speed=10}}<br />
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===Type effectiveness===<br />
{{Type effectiveness|<br />
type1=Grass|<br />
type2=Steel|<br />
Normal= 50 |<br />
Fighting= 200 |<br />
Flying= 100 |<br />
Poison= 0 |<br />
Ground= 100 |<br />
Rock= 50 |<br />
Bug= 100 |<br />
Ghost= 50 |<br />
Steel= 50 |<br />
<br />
Fire= 400 |<br />
Water= 50 |<br />
Grass= 25 |<br />
Electric= 50 |<br />
Psychic= 50 |<br />
Ice= 100 |<br />
Dragon= 50 |<br />
Dark= 50 <br />
}}<br />
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===Learnset===<br />
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====<br />
{{learnlist/levelh|Ferroseed|Grass|Steel|5|5}}<br />
{{learnlist/level5|Start|Tackle|Normal|Physical|50|100|35}}<br />
{{learnlist/level5|Start|Harden|Normal|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|30}}<br />
{{learnlist/level5|6|Rollout|Rock|Physical|30|90|20}}<br />
{{learnlist/level5|9|Curse|Ghost|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|10}}<br />
{{learnlist/level5|14|Metal Claw|Steel|Physical|50|95|35||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/level5|18|Pin Missile|Bug|Physical|14|85|20}}<br />
{{learnlist/level5|21|Gyro Ball|Steel|Physical|&mdash;|100|5||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/level5|26|Iron Defense|Steel|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|15}}<br />
{{learnlist/level5|30|Mirror Shot|Steel|Special|65|85|10||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/level5|35|Ingrain|Grass|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|20}}<br />
{{learnlist/level5|38|Selfdestruct|Normal|Physical|200|100|5}}<br />
{{learnlist/level5|43|Iron Head|Steel|Physical|80|100|15||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/level5|47|Payback|Dark|Physical|50|100|10}}<br />
{{learnlist/level5|52|Flash Cannon|Steel|Special|80|100|10||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/level5|55|Explosion|Normal|Physical|250|100|5}}<br />
{{learnlist/levelf|Ferroseed|Grass|Steel|5|5}}<br />
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====By [[TM]]/[[HM]]====<br />
{{learnlist/tmh|Ferroseed|Grass|Steel|5|5}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM01|Hone Claws|Dark|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|15}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM06|Toxic|Poison|Status|&mdash;|90|10}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM10|Hidden Power|Normal|Special|&mdash;|100|15}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM11|Sunny Day|Fire|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|5}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM17|Protect|Normal|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|10}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM21|Frustration|Normal|Physical|&mdash;|100|20}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM22|SolarBeam|Grass|Special|120|100|10||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM24|Thunderbolt|Electric|Special|95|100|15}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM27|Return|Normal|Physical|&mdash;|100|20}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM32|Double Team|Normal|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|15}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM42|Facade|Normal|Physical|70|100|20}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM44|Rest|Psychic|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|10}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM48|Round|Normal|Special|60|100|15}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM53|Energy Ball|Grass|Special|80|100|10||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM64|Explosion|Normal|Physical|250|100|5}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM66|Payback|Dark|Physical|50|100|10}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM69|Rock Polish|Rock|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|20}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM70|Flash|Normal|Status|&mdash;|100|20}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM73|Thunder Wave|Electric|Status|&mdash;|100|20}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM74|Gyro Ball|Steel|Physical|&mdash;|100|5||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM84|Poison Jab|Poison|Physical|80|100|20}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM87|Swagger|Normal|Status|&mdash;|90|15}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM90|Substitute|Normal|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|10}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM91|Flash Cannon|Steel|Special|80|100|10||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/tm5|TM94|Rock Smash|Fighting|Physical|40|100|15}}<br />
{{learnlist/tmf|Ferroseed|Grass|Steel|5|5}}<br />
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====By {{pkmn|breeding}}====<br />
{{learnlist/breedh|Ferroseed|grass|steel|5|5}}<br />
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|102|Exeggcute}}{{MSP|187|Hoppip}}{{MSP|188|Skiploom}}{{MSP|189|Jumpluff}}{{MSP|192|Sunflora}}|Bullet Seed|Grass|Physical|25|100|30|Cool|2||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|476|Probopass}}|Gravity|Psychic|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|5|Beauty|2}}<br />
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|001|Bulbasaur}}{{MSP|002|Ivysaur}}{{MSP|003|Venusaur}}{{MSP|102|Exeggcute}}{{MSP|103|Exeggutor}}{{MSP|187|Hoppip}}<br>{{MSP|188|Skiploom}}{{MSP|189|Jumpluff}}{{MSP|285|Shroomish}}{{MSP|286|Breloom}}{{MSP|315|Roselia}}{{MSP|407|Roserade}}<br>{{MSP|331|Cacnea}}{{MSP|332|Cacturne}}{{MSP|387|Turtwig}}{{MSP|388|Grotle}}{{MSP|389|Torterra}}{{MSP|420|Cherubi}}<br>{{MSP|421|Cherrim}}{{MSP|421S|Cherrim}}{{MSP|495|Snivy}}{{MSP|496|Servine}}{{MSP|497|Serperior}}{{MSP|546|Cottonee}}<br>{{MSP|547|Whimsicott}}|Leech Seed|Grass|Status|&mdash;|90|10|Smart|0}}<br />
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|001|Bulbasaur}}{{MSP|103|Exeggutor}}{{MSP|191|Sunkern}}{{MSP|285|Shroomish}}{{MSP|286|Breloom}}|Seed Bomb|Grass|Physical|80|100|15|Smart|3||'''}}<br />
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|331|Cacnea}}{{MSP|332|Cacturne}}{{MSP|557|Dwebble}}*{{MSP|558|Crustle}}*|Spikes|Ground|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|20|Smart|2}}<br />
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|074|Geodude}}{{MSP|075|Graveler}}{{MSP|076|Golem}}{{MSP|095|Onix}}{{MSP|208|Steelix}}{{MSP|389|Torterra}}<br>{{MSP|524|Roggenrola}}{{MSP|525|Boldore}}{{MSP|526|Gigalith}}{{MSP|557|Dwebble}}{{MSP|558|Crustle}}|Stealth Rock|Rock|Status|&mdash;|&mdash;|20|Cool|2}}<br />
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|001|Bulbasaur}}{{MSP|002|Ivysaur}}{{MSP|003|Venusaur}}{{MSP|102|Exeggcute}}{{MSP|103|Exeggutor}}{{MSP|187|Hoppip}}<br>{{MSP|188|Skiploom}}{{MSP|189|Jumpluff}}{{MSP|191|Sunkern}}{{MSP|192|Sunflora}}{{MSP|285|Shroomish}}{{MSP|286|Breloom}}<br>{{MSP|420|Cherubi}}{{MSP|421|Cherrim}}{{MSP|421S|Cherrim}}|Worry Seed|Grass|Status|&mdash;|90|10|Smart|0}}<br />
{{learnlist/breedf|Ferrothorn|grass|steel|5|5}}<br />
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====By [[Move tutor|tutoring]]====<br />
{{learnlist/tutorh|Ferroseed|grass|steel|5|5}}<br />
{{learnlist/tutor5null}}<br />
{{learnlist/tutorf|Ferroseed|grass|steel|5|5}}<br />
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====Special moves====<br />
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===={{Trading Card Game}}-only moves====<br />
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===Side game data===<br />
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===Evolution===<br />
{{evobox<br />
|family=Normal<br />
|sprite1=597<br />
|name1=Ferroseed<br />
|type1-1=Grass<br />
|type2-1=Steel<br />
|evotype1=Level<br />
|level1=40<br />
|sprite2=598<br />
|name2=Ferrothorn<br />
|type1-2=Grass<br />
|type2-2=Steel<br />
}}<br />
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===Sprites===<br />
{{Sprite |<br />
type=grass |<br />
type2=steel |<br />
gen=5 |<br />
gender=none |<br />
name=Ferroseed |<br />
ndex=597<br />
}}<br />
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==Trivia==<br />
* No other Pokémon have the same [[List of Pokémon with unique type combinations|type combination]] as Ferroseed and its {{p|Ferrothorn|evolved form}}.<br />
** Similarly, no other Pokémon have the same [[egg group]] combination as Ferroseed and its evolved form.<br />
** Ferroseed and its evolution have the fewest weaknesses of all {{type|Grass}} Pokémon.<br />
** Ferroseed and its evolution are the only Grass-type Pokémon immune to Poison-type attacks.\<br />
* Ferroseed is both the slowest {{type|Grass}} Pokémon and the slowest {{type|Steel}} Pokémon.<br />
* Despite being Grass-type, it cannot learn any damaging Grass-type moves by level up.<br />
* Ferroseed can learn {{m|Metal Claw}} and {{m|Hone Claws}} despite having no visible hands.<br />
** Ferroseed cannot learn {{m|Rapid Spin}}, despite its battle animation showing it constantly spinning.<br />
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===Origin===<br />
Ferroseed may be based on {{wp|durian}}s or conkers, seeds from {{wp|Aesculus hippocastanum|horse-chestnut trees}}, both of which are known for their tough skin and thorns. It may also be based on a {{wp|mace (club)|mace}} or {{wp|flail (weapon)|flail}}.<br />
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====Name origin====<br />
Ferroseed is a combination of the Latin ''ferrum'' meaning "iron" (or possibly, from Portuguese ''ferro'', same meaning) and ''seed''. Similarly, Tesshido is likely a combination of 鉄 ''tetsu'', iron, and シード ''shīdo'', seed.<br />
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==In other languages==<br />
*[[List of German Pokémon names|German]]: Kastadur - From ''{{tt|Kastanie|chestnut}}'' and ''{{tt|durrus|Latin: hard}}''.<br />
*[[List of French Pokémon names|French]]: Grindur<br />
*[[List of Korean Pokémon names|Korean]]: 철시드 ''Cheolsideu''<br />
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===Structure===<br />
The best example articles for structure are {{p|Bulbasaur}}, {{p|Charmander}}, and {{p|Squirtle}}.<br />
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The Pokémon species articles are increasingly complex. However, to keep articles organized, the names, order and content of the sections should be according to the model below.<br />
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'''Refer to this model frequently when adding sections to a Pokémon species article, as the names, order and content of sections are all being standardized in all species articles. If you would like to update the model, please do so with regard to both the flow of the article and the standards set forth in Bulbapedia's {{bp|manual of style}}. Please consult other participants of the project on the talk page before making major changes to the model, particularly any regrouping or reorganizing of categories.'''<br />
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====Article model====<br />
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=====Full=====<br />
The article should start off with the [[Template:PokémonPrevNext]] bar, followed by the Pokémon Infobox, followed by a general description of the Pokémon, including any special points (such as if it's a starter Pokémon in any games), a brief description of its abilities, and levels or ways in which the Pokémon evolves.<br />
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After this, it can be broken into three sections: general information, game statistics, and other information. Note that it is not broken down into these three sections within the articles themselves. Also note that the text for sections should not be indented within the text editor - it is merely indented here to aid in showing the hierarchy of sections.<br />
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'''General information'''<br />
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'''<nowiki>==Biology==</nowiki>'''<br />
<br>Information in these subsections '''must''' be derived from a canon source, such as the Pokédex entries or the Pokémon anime. '''All speculative information will be removed.'''<br><br />
:'''<nowiki>===Physiology===</nowiki>'''<br />
:A description of the Pokémon's physical structure, possible related Pokémon based on similarities, and any physical adaptations the Pokémon has made to its surroundings. Physical variations among members or groups of the species can also be noted here.<br />
::'''<nowiki>====Gender differences====</nowiki>'''<br />
::Any notable difference between males and females in the species, as one would note by comparing the Diamond and Pearl sprites. Alternate gender counterparts, such as with the two genders of Nidoran, are also linked to in this section.<br />
::'''<nowiki>====Special abilities====</nowiki>'''<br />
::A description of any unusual or elemental abilities the Pokémon often displays, such as those related to its elemental type. This is not a place for listing its [[ability]], despite the name; the ability should only be mentioned if it is relevant to this topic.<br />
:'''<nowiki>===Behavior===</nowiki>'''<br />
:A description of the Pokémon's behavior, both in the wild and after being captured.<br />
:'''<nowiki>===Habitat===</nowiki>'''<br />
:A description of regions where the Pokémon is commonly found.<br />
:'''<nowiki>===Diet===</nowiki>'''<br />
:'''<nowiki>''Main article: [[Pokémon food]]''</nowiki>'''<br />
:All articles should link to the Pokémon food article rather than detail diet characteristics considered universal among Pokémon. Instead, this section should contain a description of any notable or unusual points about the Pokémon's diet. Use <nowiki>{{main|Pokémon food}}</nowiki> for this part.<br />
'''<nowiki>==In the anime==</nowiki>'''<br />
<br>Only added if the Pokémon appears in the anime. Please link to the Pokémon anime article at the start of this section.<br />
<br>First, any details about the Pokémon species exclusive to the anime. Then, any episodes, movies, and specials from the Pokémon anime where the Pokémon has made an appearance, and a detailed description of their importance and role. For recurring Pokémon, only their first appearance, last appearance, and any particularly important appearances should be listed, with links to the specific Pokémon's article where further details can be found. Appearances should be listed chronologically, regardless of importance.<br><br />
'''<nowiki>==In the manga==</nowiki>'''<br />
<br>Only added if the Pokémon appears in a manga series.<br />
<br>This section should be broken down by manga series, divided and listed in the order of Pokémon Adventures, Electric Tale of Pikachu, Magical Pokémon Journey, Pokémon Chamo-Chamo ☆ Pretty ♪, and then any other Pokémon manga.<br />
<br>For each series: Please link to the series in the subsection header. First, any details about the Pokémon species exclusive to that manga series. Then, volumes of Pokémon manga in which the Pokémon has made an appearance, and a detailed description of their importance and role. For recurring Pokémon, only their first appearance, last appearance, and any particularly important appearances should be listed, with links to the specific Pokémon's article where further details can be found. Appearances should be listed chronologically, regardless of importance.<br><br />
'''<nowiki>==In the TCG==</nowiki>'''<br />
<br>Only added if the Pokémon appears in the TCG. Please link to the Pokémon Trading Card Game article at the start of this section.<br />
<br>All cards in the TCG featuring members of the Pokémon species. Details universal to all of the Pokémon's cards may be added, but essentially, this section should be more or less a list with links to the cards' articles themselves. (To expand said card articles, please see the {{bp|Project TCG}}.)<br><br />
'''<nowiki>==In the TFG==</nowiki>'''<br />
<br>Only added if the Pokémon appears in the TFG. Please link to the Pokémon Trading Figure Game article at the start of this section.<br />
<br>All figures in the TFG featuring members of the Pokémon species. Details universal to all of the Pokémon's figures may be added, but essentially, this section should be more or less a list with links to the figures' articles themselves. (To expand said figure articles, please see the {{bp|Project TFG}}.)<br><br />
'''<nowiki>==Other appearances==</nowiki>'''<br />
<br>Places where the Pokémon has been featured in non-Pokémon canon, such as the Super Smash Bros. series. Only added if the Pokémon appears outside of canon. If there is an article on the series in Bulbapedia, please link to it in the subsection header. Otherwise, please link to the appropriate article on Wikipedia in the subsection header.<br />
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'''Game statistics'''<br />
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'''<nowiki>==Game data==</nowiki>'''<br />
:'''<nowiki>===NPC appearances===</nowiki>'''<br />
:Details of Pokémon in all games (sans Smash Bros. series) which are seen but cannot be caught. Only add as necessary.<br />
:'''<nowiki>===Pokédex entries===</nowiki>'''<br />
:A list of the Pokédex entries for the Pokémon in every game which it appears. Please link to the different games' articles, coupling the paired games when the information for them is the same, as well as the Pokédex article itself.<br><br />
:'''<nowiki>===Game locations===</nowiki>'''<br />
:Details on the location and rarity of Pokémon in the primary games. Please link to the different games' articles, coupling the paired games when the information for them is the same, as well as the Rarity article. Please link to all locations named in the table, since articles will have the specific rates of appearance for the area. Named locations are listed first in order of appearance in the game, followed by Routes in numerical order with each number linking to the appropriate route. Different methods of capturing, such as in the wild versus fishing, have a break between them.<br />
::'''<nowiki>====In side games====</nowiki>'''<br />
::Details on the location in non-standard games like Pokémon Snap, Pokémon Mystery Dungeon, and Pokémon Ranger. Please have the games in a bulleted list with details. For the Stadium games, assume regular rental Pokémon are common knowledge; do not add it to the list unless it has more information about its appearance, such as prizes, special Pokémon, ones in minigames, or if the moveset information for rentals within the individual Cups is provided as well.<br />
:'''<nowiki>===Base statistics===</nowiki>'''<br />
:The Pokémon's base statistics, presented in a bar graph form.<br><br />
:''Note: This section may be undergoing changes soon, due to complaints about the bar graph format.''<br><br />
:'''<nowiki>===Type effectiveness===</nowiki>'''<br />
:How well types affect the Pokémon, based on its own type and base stats. Currently, all articles should follow the DP Type Effectiveness format.<br />
:'''<nowiki>===Learnset===</nowiki>'''<br />
:Moves the Pokémon can learn. ''Sections should not be added if the Pokémon learns no moves in such a manner. In particular, this applies to the Special moves subsection - do not add this section to an article if there are currently no moves the Pokémon can learn through a special method.''<br />
::'''<nowiki>====By leveling up====</nowiki>'''<br />
::Table format.<br />
::'''<nowiki>====By TM/HM====</nowiki>'''<br />
::Table format.<br />
::'''<nowiki>====By breeding====</nowiki>'''<br />
::Table format. For each, please list all potential fathers which the Pokémon can inherit the move from. Do not, however, clutter the article with descriptions of how the fathers can learn the move. Instead, link to the father's article - details on how the father can learn the move should be listed on that article.<br />
::'''<nowiki>====By tutoring====</nowiki>'''<br />
::Table format.<br />
::'''<nowiki>====Special moves====</nowiki>'''<br />
::Any techniques which a Pokémon can learn in a special way, like Pikachu's Surf or a move learned after purification in Pokémon XD.<br />
:'''<nowiki>===Side game data===</nowiki>'''<br />
:Table format. Note any factors that differ between species as well as any equivalent to Pokédex entries that the game may have.<br />
:'''<nowiki>===Evolution===</nowiki>'''<br />
:The Pokémon's detailed evolution chain, shown as different sprites in boxes.<br />
:'''<nowiki>===Sprites===</nowiki>'''<br />
:Sprites of the Pokémon from all [[main series]] games, using the {{template|Sprite}} template.<br />
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'''Other information'''<br />
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'''<nowiki>==Trivia==</nowiki>'''<br />
<br>Any facts which do not fit well into any other section. This includes beta names and relations to any glitch Pokémon, such as if a glitch uses pieces of its sprite or will evolve into it. Leave out the section if there is no trivia.<br><br />
:'''<nowiki>===Origin===</nowiki>'''<br />
:Plants, animals, myths, and anything else which may have served as inspiration for the Pokémon's design.<br />
::'''<nowiki>====Name origin====</nowiki>'''<br />
::Possible base words and inspirations for the Pokémon's name in English and Japanese.<br />
'''<nowiki>==In other languages==</nowiki>'''<br />
:The Pokémon's name in languages besides English and Japanese. Possible base words and inspirations for these names may also be added.<br />
'''<nowiki>==Related articles==</nowiki>'''<br />
<br>A bulleted list of any relevant articles, such as specific characters of the Pokémon in the anime or manga. TCG and TFG link lists should remain in their own sections and not be included in this subsection.<br><br />
'''<nowiki>==Notes==</nowiki>'''<br />
<br>A bulleted list of &lt;ref&gt; citations from the article. This list is automatically created by simply inserting the <tt>&lt;references/&gt;</tt> tag.<br><br />
'''<nowiki>==External links==</nowiki>'''<br />
<br>A bulleted list of links to other pages, such as the Pokémon's entry on Wikipedia, or fan shrines for the Pokémon. Links to the Pokémon's entry in a Pokédex section of another website should be included in the infobox, not the external links section.<br><br />
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After this, there should be another [[Template:PokémonPrevNext]] bar, followed by a [[Template:Project Pokédex notice]] box to finish the article.<br />
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=====Abbreviated=====<br />
This format is for quick reference, when checking to see if an article matches the model. Headers which are in bold are required for all articles. Other headers should only be added when applicable.<br />
'''==Biology=='''<br />
'''===Physiology==='''<br />
'''====Gender differences===='''<br />
'''====Special abilities===='''<br />
'''===Behavior==='''<br />
'''===Habitat==='''<br />
'''===Diet==='''<br />
'''<nowiki>{{main|Pokémon food}}</nowiki>'''<br />
==In the anime==<br />
===Pokédex entries===<br />
==In the manga==<br />
==In the TCG==<br />
==In the TFG==<br />
==Other appearances==<br />
'''==Game data=='''<br />
===NPC appearances===<br />
'''===Pokédex entries==='''<br />
'''===Game locations==='''<br />
'''====In side games===='''<br />
===Held Items===<br />
'''===Base statistics==='''<br />
'''===Type effectiveness==='''<br />
'''===Learnset==='''<br />
====By leveling up==== <br />
====By TM/HM==== <br />
====By breeding====<br />
====By tutoring==== <br />
====Special moves==== <br />
'''===Side game data==='''<br />
'''===Evolution==='''<br />
'''===Sprites==='''<br />
==Trivia==<br />
===Origin=== <br />
====Name origin====<br />
==In other languages== <br />
==Related articles==<br />
==Notes==<br />
==External links==<br />
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====Tables within the articles====<br />
Basic formatting for a Pokémon species article table is as follows:<br />
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<nowiki>{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"</nowiki><br />
<br>|- style="background: #COLOR;"<br />
<br>! Heading<br />
<br>! Heading<br />
<br>|-<br />
<br>| Content<br />
<br>| Content<br />
<br>|}<br />
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Replace the "COLOR" with the template for the color code of the Pokémon's primary type - or, if their primary type is Normal and they have a secondary type, the color code of the Pokémon's secondary type. The template's name is the type name and "color". For example, <nowiki>{{grass color}}</nowiki> is the template for a Grass-type Pokémon.<br />
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===Goals===<br />
# Expand Pokémon pages to have at least a paragraph of information about a Pokémon, preferably background information on that Pokémon. The {{p|Bulbasaur}} page is a good example of a simple introduction paragraph.<br />
# Add all locations in all games, including the side games ([[Pokémon Snap]], [[Pokémon Pinball]], [[Pokémon Pinball: Ruby/Sapphire]], [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon]], [[Pokémon Trozei!]], and [[Pokémon Ranger]], to name some of the more important ones).<br />
# Add all movelists.<br />
# Add [[Pokédex]] text info from games, where applicable.<br />
# Add Biology information to each Pokémon species article.<br />
# Add information on any appearances in the anime, including the specific episodes.<br />
# Add information on any appearances in all manga, including the series and volume.<br />
# List all released cards of the Pokémon.<br />
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===Infoboxes===<br />
When entering information into any of the infoboxes, make sure to preview before saving the page, to make sure that you've entered everything right. If you don't know something, leave it blank.<br />
* {{Template|PokémonInfobox}}<br />
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{{PokémonInfoboxNoncat|<br />
name=Bulbasaur |<br />
pron=<sc>''bul''-buh-sore</sc> |<br />
jname=フシギダネ |<br />
tmname=Fushigidane |<br />
image=001Bulbasaur.png |<br />
caption=Artwork from FR/LG |<br />
ndex=001 |<br />
oldjdex=226 |<br />
jdex=231 |<br />
hdex=203 |<br />
fdex=001 |<br />
typen=2 |<br />
type1=Grass |<br />
type2=Poison |<br />
species=Seed |<br />
height-ftin=2'04" |<br />
height-m=0.7 |<br />
weight-lbs=15.2 |<br />
weight-kg=6.9 |<br />
abilityn=1 |<br />
ability1=Overgrow |<br />
ability2= |<br />
egggroupn=2 |<br />
egggroup1=Monster |<br />
egggroup2=Plant |<br />
eggcycles=20 |<br />
evsa=1 |<br />
expyield=64 |<br />
lv100exp=1,059,860 |<br />
gendercode=31 |<br />
color=Green |<br />
catchrate=45 |<br />
body=08 |<br />
generation=1 |<br />
pokefordex=bulbasaur |<br />
footnotes=}}<br />
To make the infobox at the right appear in the article, paste this into it:<br />
<pre><br />
{{PokémonInfobox|<br />
name=Bulbasaur |<br />
pron=<sc>''bul''-buh-sore</sc> |<br />
jname=フシギダネ |<br />
tmname=Fushigidane |<br />
image=001Bulbasaur.png |<br />
caption=Artwork from FR/LG |<br />
ndex=001 |<br />
oldjdex=226 |<br />
jdex=231 |<br />
hdex=203 |<br />
fdex=001 |<br />
typen=2 |<br />
type1=Grass |<br />
type2=Poison |<br />
species=Seed |<br />
height-ftin=2'04" |<br />
height-m=0.7 |<br />
weight-lbs=15.2 |<br />
weight-kg=6.9 |<br />
abilityn=1 |<br />
ability1=Overgrow |<br />
ability2= |<br />
egggroupn=2 |<br />
egggroup1=Monster |<br />
egggroup2=Plant |<br />
eggcycles=20 |<br />
evsa=1 |<br />
expyield=64 |<br />
lv100exp=1,059,860 |<br />
gendercode=31 |<br />
color=Green |<br />
catchrate=45 |<br />
body=08 |<br />
generation=1 |<br />
pokefordex=bulbasaur |<br />
footnotes=}}<br />
</pre><br />
Change all stats to those of the Pokémon in question.<br />
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*{{Template|Availability}}<br />
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{{Availability|<br />
type=grass |<br />
gen=1 |<br />
rbrarity=One |<br />
rbarea=[[Starter Pokémon]] from [[Professor Oak]] in [[Pallet Town]] |<br />
yrarity=One |<br />
yarea=Received from a girl in [[Cerulean City]] if {{p|Pikachu}}'s [[happiness]] is high enough |<br />
gen2ex=rby|<br />
frlgrarity=One |<br />
frlgarea=[[Starter Pokémon]] from [[Professor Oak]] in [[Pallet Town]] |<br />
gen3ex=frlg|<br />
dparea=[[Pal Park]] |<br />
ptarea=[[Pal Park]] |<br />
gen4ex=pal|<br />
palarea=Field |<br />
}}<br />
To make the above appear, copy and paste what follows into the article:<br />
<pre><br />
{{Availability|<br />
type= |<br />
gen= |<br />
rbrarity= |<br />
rbarea= |<br />
yrarity= |<br />
yarea= |<br />
gsrarity= |<br />
gsarea= |<br />
crarity= |<br />
carea= |<br />
rsrarity= |<br />
rsarea= |<br />
erarity= |<br />
earea= |<br />
frlgrarity= |<br />
frlgarea= |<br />
colorarity= |<br />
coloarea= |<br />
xdrarity= |<br />
xdarea= |<br />
dprarity= |<br />
dparea= |<br />
ptrarity= |<br />
ptarea= |<br />
hgssrarity= |<br />
hgssarea= |<br />
palarea= |<br />
}}<br />
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Rarity and Area refer to how common or uncommon a Pokémon is. What precedes them are the initials of the versions that the specific instance applies to, [[Pokémon Red and Blue Versions|RB]], [[Pokémon Yellow Version|Y]], [[Pokémon Gold and Silver Versions|GS]], [[Pokémon Crystal Version|C]], [[Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire Versions|RS]], [[Pokémon Emerald Version|E]], [[Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen Versions|FRLG]], [[Pokémon Colosseum|Colo]], [[Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness|XD]], [[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Versions|DP]], [[Pokémon Platinum Version|Pt]], [[Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver Versions|HGSS]]. For example, whatever is entered into the frlgarea should be where the Pokémon can be found in FireRed and LeafGreen. Likewise, frlgrarity should be how rare the Pokémon is in FireRed and LeafGreen. If only one is found, such as is the case with {{p|Mewtwo}}, put "One". If it can only be found through evolution, put "None" and for the area prompt put "[[Evolution|Evolve]] (pre-evolution)", replacing (pre-evolution) with the name of the Pokémon it evolves from. Likewise, if it is only available through breeding, put "None" and in the area prompt put "[[Pokémon breeding|Breed]] (evolutions)", replacing (evolutions) with the Pokémon that must produce the egg.<br />
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Rarity defaults to "None", Area defaults to "[[Trade]]". Therefore, if it can only be found through [[Pal Park]] in Diamond and Pearl, this must be entered in the dparea prompt. If a Pokémon is only available in one of a pair of versions, put the version it is available in in parentheses after the area.<br />
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* {{Template|Dex}}<br />
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{{Dex<br />
|type=grass<br />
|redbluedex=A strange seed was planted on its back at birth. The plant sprouts and grows with this Pokémon.<br />
|yellowdex=It can go for days without eating a single morsel. In the bulb on its back, it stores energy.<br />
|golddex=The seed on its back is filled with nutrients. The seed grows steadily larger as its body grows.<br />
|silverdex=It carries a seed on its back right from birth. As it grows older, the seed also grows larger.<br />
|crystaldex=While it is young, it uses the nutrients that are stored in the seeds on its back in order to grow.<br />
|rubydex=Bulbasaur can be seen napping in bright sunlight. There is a seed on its back. By soaking up the sun's rays, the seed grows progressively larger.<br />
|sapphiredex=Bulbasaur can be seen napping in bright sunlight. There is a seed on its back. By soaking up the sun's rays, the seed grows progressively larger.<br />
|emeralddex=Bulbasaur can be seen napping in bright sunlight. There is a seed on its back. By soaking up the sun's rays, the seed grows progressively larger.<br />
|firereddex=There is a plant seed on its back right from the day this Pokémon is born. The seed slowly grows larger.<br />
|leafgreendex=A strange seed was planted on its back at birth. The plant sprouts and grows with this Pokémon.<br />
|stadiumdex=The bulb-like pouch on its back grows larger as it ages. The pouch is filled with numerous seeds.<br />
|stadium2dex=The seed on its back is filled with nutrients. The seed grows steadily larger as its body grows.<br />
|colosseumdex=Lives in forests away from people. It stores electricity in its cheeks for zapping an enemy if it is attacked.<br />
|diamonddex=For some time after its birth, it grows by gaining nourishment from the seed on its back.<br />
|pearldex=For some time after its birth, it grows by gaining nourishment from the seed on its back.<br />
|platinumdex=For some time after its birth, it grows by gaining nourishment from the seed on its back.<br />
|heartgolddex=The seed on its back is filled with nutrients. The seed grows steadily larger as its body grows.<br />
|soulsilverdex=For some time after its birth, it grows by gaining nourishment from the seed on its back.<br />
|bwdex=For some time after its birth, it grows by gaining nourishment from the seed on its back.<br />
|}}<br />
To make the above appear, copy and paste what follows in the article:<br />
<pre><br />
{{Dex<br />
|type=<br />
|gen=<br />
|redbluedex=<br />
|yellowdex=<br />
|golddex=<br />
|silverdex=<br />
|crystaldex=<br />
|rubydex=<br />
|sapphiredex=<br />
|emeralddex=<br />
|firereddex=<br />
|leafgreendex=<br />
|stadiumdex=<br />
|stadium2dex=<br />
|colosseumdex=<br />
|xddex=<br />
|diamonddex=<br />
|pearldex=<br />
|platinumdex=<br />
|heartgolddex=<br />
|soulsilverdex=<br />
|bwdex=<br />
|}}<br />
</pre><br />
If an entry is unknown, delete the tag for it (that's the stuff between the | and the =, as well as the | and =). This will put the page into a category so that someone who knows what the entry is can put it in.<br />
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* {{template|Sprite}}<br />
{{Sprite|<br />
type=grass|<br />
gen=1|<br />
gender=none|<br />
ndex=001|<br />
name=Bulbasaur|<br />
}}<br />
To make the above appear, copy and paste what follows in the article:<br />
<pre><br />
{{Sprite<br />
|type=<br />
|gen=<br />
|gender=<br />
|ndex=<br />
|name=<br />
|}}<br />
</pre><br />
Type should be the Pokémon's primary type (or Flying if the Pokémon is {{t|Normal}}/{{t|Flying}}). Gen should be the Pokémon's introduction generation (1 for Pokémon #001-151, 2 for Pokémon #152-251, 3 for Pokémon #252-386, 4 for Pokémon #387-493). If the Pokémon have a gender difference, put 'both', otherwise put 'none'. Ndex should be the Pokémon's [[National Dex]] number, and name should be the name of the Pokémon.<br />
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Note: We have relatively few of the sprites uploaded to the Bulbagarden Archives. Please, if you can, try to upload some before adding the template to the page. Make sure, of course, to upload them to the correct, standardized filename.<br />
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===Other templates===<br />
* {{Template|Project Pokédex notice}} -- to be used at the bottom of every Pokémon article.<br />
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{{Project Pokédex notice}}<br />
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* {{Template|User Project Pokédex}} -- for project participants to place in their user profile.<br />
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{{User Project Pokédex}}<br />
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==Other projects==<br />
===Parent project===<br />
This project has no parent project.<br />
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===Subprojects===<br />
No subprojects have been defined.<br />
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===Related projects===<br />
* [[Bulbapedia:Project MoveDex|Project MoveDex]]<br />
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[[Category:Bulbapedia projects|P]]<br />
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[[es:Pokéteca:Proyecto Pokédex]]<br />
[[ja:ポケモンWiki:ポケモン図鑑プロジェクト]]</div>Phoenixonhttps://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:History_of_the_Pok%C3%A9mon_world&diff=1375302Talk:History of the Pokémon world2011-02-28T15:16:15Z<p>Phoenixon: /* Generation V */</p>
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==Shaping this article==<br />
I think this article needs to be redesigned... "history" is a bit of a general term - there are differences between the histories in different parts on the cannon (games, anime and different manga series have contradicted each other several times in the past). We need to make rules to decide what goes in and what doesn't...--[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|ElectAbuzzzz]] 12:37, 13 April 2007 (UTC)<br />
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It may not even be possible to write such an article since there is not much historical information, not to mention a good part of it is legend. (Then again, in this world it seems legends are generally true.) - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]]<sub>[[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]]</sub> 15:17, 13 April 2007 (UTC)<br />
:I think it's more accurate to say that the Pokemon that ''appear'' in legend are true. There's no solid evidence to say that the Sinnoh Myths aren't simply that: Myth. I feel that until Nintendo officially confirms that Arceus did in fact create the Universe, or any other legend, such as Regigigas moving the continents, we should treat them purely as myth and/or theory, and not include them with articles dealing with fact, such as this Timeline.--[[User:Dual|Dual]] 03:11, 15 August 2007 (UTC)<br />
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The timeline must have another sub article--[[User:Joshuamanimtim2|Snorlax]] 10:30, 1 May 2007 (UTC)<br />
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Should the spinoff games (Colosseum, XD, Ranger, Snap...) fit in anywhere? There's not a lot of evidence linking those to the handheld games... is there any way to put them in? --[[User:Kayube|Kayube]] 04:09, 17 June 2007 (UTC)<br />
:I doubt it. There is no indication that any events in the non-handheld games are canon to the basic storyline, so there's no real point to including it here. On another note, it's my personal opinion that this needs to be moved to a different article, because there isn't much of the history that has been confirmed; most of it, as has been mentioned, is legend and theory. Regardless, I'm going to try to clean this up a bit and Wikify it some. [[User:Vekter|Vekter]] 15:40, 15 April 2008 (UTC)<br />
::Well, the Pokemon Ranger games seem to actually reference events from the games (and also is the reason why {{p|Manaphy}} even exists in the main games.) If we aren't going to count the Ranger games are canon to the basic storyline, then we shouldn't count Manaphy as canon, either, since that's the only EVENT pokemon in the main series that debuted in a side game/spinoff game rather than in the main game series. Besides, since we can't transfer any prior gen pokemon onto the R/S/E/FR/LG game packs, Pokemon Colosseum is currently the only legit way to even ACQUIRE Celebi (though this is only in the Japanese version), and it (as well as it's sequel, Gale of darkness) is also the only OTHER legit way to acquire Ho-Oh and Lugia if you didn't get the Mystic tickets in the Emerald/FR/LG versions. now, for games like Mystery dungeon, yes, those SHOULDN'T be counted as canon in there, since that's an Alt universe. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 13:04, 11 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::What should NOT be considered canon is all this fan-made BS about Pokemon populations decreasing, when the unobtainables came into being, how Doduo/Dodrio came to have multiple heads, etc. -- [[User:Umbee|Umbee]] 22:01, 2 October 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::Do you think the "Contemporary History" should be moved to a new article called "Timeline of events in the games"? This article is supposed to be about how the Pokémon Universe developed, not what happened in it afterwards.<br />
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== Can anyone state where it was said that the S.S. Tidal was created in the 1990s? ==<br />
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I need to know because the article said it was created in that time period, and yet I don't really recall the games even stating that it was created in the 1990s (In fact, I don't even recall it even mentioning the date of when it was created at all).<br />
:Don't forget to sign your comment with four tildes <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. On to the subject i agree there is no mention of when it was built nor is there mention of its age and assume its age from the release date. So Any suggestions on what to do with it? [[User:Pterodactal|Pterodactal]] 07:00, 16 September 2007 (UTC)<br />
::I seem to recall the ship was under construction during the journey portion of [[Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire|R/S/]][[Pokémon Emerald|E]]. [[User:Bardock|Bar]][[User_Talk:Bardock|dock]] 12:33, 27 January 2009 (UTC)<br />
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I created it. Sorry. But we could leave it as it is. [[User:Joshuamanimtim2|K.J.Boring]] 11:31, 15 September 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Generation III ==<br />
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It should be sometime BEFORE Generation II and AFTER Generation I because Generation II states that STEEL is a NEWLY discovered type, and Generation III has steel types...[[Image:Ani475MS.gif]] <sc>'''[[User:Optimus35|<span style="color:#000033">A</span><span style="color:#003366">g</span><span style="color:#215670">e</span><span style="color:#006699">n</span><span style="color:#2D6E89">t</span>]] [[User talk:Optimus35|<span style="color:#0066CC">#</span><span style="color:#3D81EE">4</span><span style="color:#66B5FF">4</span><span style="color:#99C9FF">8</span>]]'''</sc> <sup><sc><span class="plainlinks">[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?limit=50&title=Special%3AContributions&contribs=user&target=Optimus35&namespace=0&year=&month=-1 <span style="color:#000000;">☆</span>] | [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZPMmUEHFIU <span style="color:#FF0000;">♥</span>]</span></sc></sup>[[Image:Ani282MS.gif]][[Image:SpriteOptimus35.PNG|This will put you off eating for life!]] 12:30, 23 November 2007 (UTC)<br />
:Here's how the Generations go in chronological order (This isn't merely fanon, it is supported by evidence from the various canons.)<br />
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Generation I&rarr;Generation III&rarr;&rarr;&rarr;Generation II&rarr;Generation IV<br />
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&rarr;=short time in betweeen<br>&rarr;&rarr;&rarr;=long time in between<br />
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:: This really puzzles me - I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just confused by this: how exactly are Generations in that order? I don't even understand how Generations I and II could have their timelines connected with III and IV... Ie: what is the canonical proof for this? (not because I'd doubt it - rather I'd love to know it, please) [[User:Sipulichu|Sipulichu]] 20:51, 31 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
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:I don't think that Steel is newly DISCOVERED type. It's just newly classified type out of those we actually had (the Steel Pokémon could be identified as Rock Pokémon before). The text in game may be mistranslated, since American Pokémon media loves to give us a shit about "new" Pokémon. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 13:26, 23 November 2007 (UTC)<br />
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== Moon Stone ==<br />
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What about "The Moon Stone"?<br />
Of [[EP006|Clefairy and the Moon Stone]]:<br />
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"Seymour theorizes this is because both '''the Pokémon came from outer space''', and '''the Moon Stone was their spacecraft''' - which means the Stone belongs to the Pokémon, and the humans must leave it alone."<br />
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That was only in the animé. As far as I know, the whole "Pokémon came from outer-space" thing was never mentioned in any game.--[[User:Pokencyclopedia|Pokencyclopedia]] 23:59, 2 January 2008 (UTC)<br />
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Except for MAYBE Deoxys and the Clefairy family<br />
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~~Weedle McHairybug~~<br />
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How about Jirachi? Comet=Outer Space --'''[[User:Theryguy512|<span style="color:#FF7F00">Theryguy</span>]][[User talk:Theryguy512|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">5</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">1</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">2</span>]]''' 18:52, 13 January 2008 (UTC)<br />
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thanks for pointing him out, Theryguy512.<br />
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IIRC there is an NPC in the Space Center that mentions the theory in Generation III. I believe I've also seen this mentioned in other games, though I may be mistaken. [[User:Vekter|Vekter]] 15:43, 15 April 2008 (UTC)<br />
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:Lunatone and Solrock appearantly came from outer space as well. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|<font color="midnightblue" face="comic sans ms">'''$aturn'''</font>]][[User:SaturnYoshi|<font color="green" face="comic sans ms">'''¥oshi'''</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:SaturnYoshi|<font color="maroon">THE VOICES</font>]]</sup> 14:40, 6 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Where did the bird trio go? Sinnoh. ==<br />
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Look at this, the legendary bird trio ( Articuno, Zapdos, Moltres ) is revealed to roam Sinnoh in Pokémon Platnum. These three, are missing in the GSC games (they can't be found in Kanto). So, they might have flown to Sinnoh. [[User:Joshuamanimtim2|K.J.Boring]] 04:55, 14 September 2008 (UTC)<br />
:Maybe if someone actually says that in-game. Otherwise, it's speculation.--[[User:Urutapu|Loveはドコ?]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] <small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 05:03, 14 September 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::No one says that those are the same birds though. The Frontier brains afterall have legendary birds aswell.<br />
Forgot to sign name--[[User:Outrage DD|Outrage DD]] 23:26, 3 October 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::In the anime as well, it's shown that there are multiple versions of legendaries (even in the same frame, a mother and baby Lugia come to mind). ←{'''[[User:Berrymaster|<font color="purple">Berr</font><font color="blue">yma</font><font color="green">ster</font>]]|[[User_talk:Berrymaster|<font color="gold">Talk</font>]]|[[Special:Contributions/Berrymaster|<font color="silver">Contrib</font>]]'''}→ 23:28, 3 October 2008 (UTC)<br />
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==Clean-Up, Please?==<br />
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Going through this article, all I see is fan speculation and unusual conclusions. I for one would like to see some evidence of these claims, as many of them see totally made-up. For example: What connection to Kyogre and Manaphy have? And "herds" of Latios and Latias? As far as I remember, it's one for each player. I wouldn't say there were "herds" of Mewtwo, would you? <br />
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:Actually, the "Herds" of Latios and Latias was stated in the Pokedex Entries of Latios and Latias. Don't believe me? Try looking at the pokedex portion of their article. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 03:12, 27 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
::[[Kyogre]] and [[Manaphy]] were both in Ranger of The Sea Temple ( i think thats what it was called)[[User:DCM|<font color="#FF1111">DCM</font>]]<sub>[[User talk:DCM|((<font color="#DAA520">Shut the **** up</font>]]</sub><sub>[[Special:Contributions/DCM|<font color="#C0C0C0">Spy on My Edits</font>))]]</sub><br />
::Mewtwo is the only successful clone (attempted by humans) of a Pokémon as far as we know. And we're 100% certain that he's the only Mewtwo out there. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 03:25, 27 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
::And in the case of the games, it's also the only cloned pokemon, Period [even then, lab notes hinted that it wasn't even a clone {the whole "Mew Gave Birth" thing comes to mind}.] [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 00:17, 29 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
:: Okay, okay, but I still think these should be referenced in the article. It is still true that most of the article is mere specualtion, however. [[User:Me, Hurray!|Me, Hurray!]] 04:32, 27 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::Actually, I doubt that half of it is speculation. Most of it is from the games. Yeah, some of it is guessing for the dates, but that is why they have a large number of years separating the different sections, as the games don't give specific dates, except for that Arceus created the Pokémon universe. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 17:15, 27 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::: Because everything mentioned in the games is meant to be taken literally. Yes. I see it now. Silly me.[[User:Me, Hurray!|Me, Hurray!]] 20:41, 27 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
Sorry. I didn't mean for it to seem like that. When things are typed, they always sound different in the mind of somebody else. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 00:16, 29 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
:: I'm sorry, I strayed away from the point. My only problem is that there is no evidence and there are no citations in the artical. It's alright pointing things out here in the talk page, but if there's no evidence in the artical itself then I don't think it meets certain standards. I'm really just requesting evidence.<br />
:::We can't really cite the games, which is why there aren't any citations at the moment. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 21:22, 2 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::You can ''sorta'' cite the games. Who to talk to and where to see what's said. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:14, 7 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::True. But I think the citing that Me, Hurray is talking about is links and stuff. Or at least very specific descriptions of where they come from. Links we can't do for games, but yeah, I guess it would take some time, but we could find all of the people who tell us the random info. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 04:20, 7 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::: Mentioning who gives the information in-game sounds like a satasfactory measure to me. at least then the information can be varified and proven correct. [[User:Me, Hurray!|Me, Hurray!]] 16:46, 8 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
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==Rotom==<br />
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it is never said that Rotom was made in the 70's, infact I taught [[Pluto]] discovered it in the 50's, so I think we should leave it blank until Platinum's out in english [[User:Ultamatecharizard|<span style="background:#000000; color:#FF0000;">Ultamate</span>]][[User Talk:Ultamatecharizard|<sub><font color="#FF5A00">Charizard</font></sub>]] 16:49, 8 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
:I only knew he discovered it. In his youth. I didn't know there was a date involved. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 22:25, 8 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
::I still don't get who put that in, I mean it would be diffrent it was ever said but I looked Rotom's page and it didn't say anything [[User:Ultamatecharizard|<span style="background:#000000; color:#FF0000;">Ultamate</span>]][[User Talk:Ultamatecharizard|<sub><font color="#FF5A00">Charizard</font></sub>]]<br />
:::All you have to do is go through the editing history. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 20:31, 16 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
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==Multiple Mew!?==<br />
Alright, who said that Mew were plentiful soon after the creation of the Pokémon world? And how does anyone know that [[Mew (Lucario and the Mystery of Mew)|this Mew]] is different from [[Mew (Mewtwo Strikes Back)|that Mew]]? It could just be a different voice actor. [[User:Palkiajosh|パルキアJosh]] 23:23, 9 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
*Ok, about the reason why Mew from Mewtwo Strikes Back being different from the Mew from Lucario and the Mystery of Mew, it's for a couple of reasons. Yes, the voice doesn't necessarily mean much, however, MSB's Mew's Japanese VA was definitely in the 8th Movie as he (she? I don't really know the VA's gender) was the one who voiced Sir Aaron in that Movie. I mean, why would they give Mew a different VA (assuming that it IS the same one) if it's original VA is still very much available? Plus, the one from Movie 1 was very far from Kanto, and If this were the same mew, it would spend most of it's time inside of a Lake/Jungle than in a deciduous forest with a [[Tree of Beginning|Tree-like Rock formation]], not to mention that MSB's Mew lives a considerably far distance from Kanto, or heck, any of the regions that have been seen thus far, while LatMoM's Mew was located, if not in Kanto, then just barely beyond the border. As for the multiple parts, I'm guessing the fossilized remains of a Mew, as well as it being a genetic ancestor to every pokemon seems to answer that question.) [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 23:36, 9 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
Don't forget that the first Mew was seen to be sleeping underwater, possibly for a long time, untill Mewtwo unleashed his power on the world, creating storms and kidnapping the Nurse Joy of the city. The most recent Mew, was seen to have been connected to the Tree of Beginning, so it should be assumed Mew can't be away from it for long periods of time (longer than seen in the movie). And it and the Tree are so closely connected, when Mew would be damaged in the first movie, the Tree would also sustain damage. And the first Mew is also living in the Johto area, not Kanto. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 21:54, 10 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
Mew is the ancestor of all life. A being cannot breed with itself. Thus-multiple Mews-Mtn_Otter<br />
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== Lugia did what? ==<br />
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Who ever said Lugia actually created the 3 birds? just because it's the master trio doesn't mean it created them. --'''[[User:InuMimi|<span style="color:#CC99CC">いぬ</span>]][[User talk:InuMimi|<span style="color:#CCCCCC">みみ</span>]]''' 23:42, 16 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
:Well........now thats up to interpretation. I say no[[User:DCM|<font color="#FF1111">DCM</font>]]<sub>[[User talk:DCM|((<font color="#DAA520">曲奇饼妖怪</font>]]</sub><sub>[[Special:Contributions/DCM|<font color="#C0C0C0">Spy on My Edits</font>))]]</sub><br />
::I agree. It doesn't say anywhere that he created them. It just says that a Lugia has the power to destroy (Pokédex entries) or save the world (movie), depending on the situation. It only has control over the birds and their powers, and I think they only obey him out of respect for a higher being. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 16:13, 18 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Cleanup! ==<br />
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This article is really very well done as it sums up everything so those supposed continuity errors are straingtened out (such as the "Which came first? Arceus or Mew?" paradox). But I really think it needs a cleanup. All it has are random dot points on Pokemon that aren't related. Clean it up!<br />
Also, fan assumptions should be excluded! It's annoying to see speculation assumed as fact. [[User:Bttsstewart|Bttsstewart]] 15:30, 18 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
:Well, we've been trying to do that for a while. And if you want it cleaned up, then don't just tell people to do it. You need to do something too. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 16:10, 18 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
::There really isn't a paradox concerning Arceus and Mew. It is ''believed'' (according to Dex entries) that Mew is the ancestor of Pokémon, but it clearly states in the DPPt origin story that Arceus was born before every other Pokémon (before the universem even). Arceus created Mew, ta-dah! And like [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] said, you can't just tell people to do things you want done. [[User:LordArceus|<span style="color:#FF0000">'''Lord'''</span>]][[User talk:LordArceus|<span style="color:#FF0000">'''Arc'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/LordArceus|<span style="color:#FF0000">'''eus'''</span>]] 16:12, 18 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
I've had an interesting theory, which could solve the Arceus/Mew paradox. Arceus may have created the universe, but what if Mew came around before the universe was created, and Arceus sort of descended from it? Also, Mew is the ANSCESTOR of all Pokémon, not necassarily their creator. So if Arceus created Dialga and Palkia and the Lake Trio, then they are still anscestors of Mew, because Arceus is.<br />
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Please remember to sign comments. I realise that there's no Mew/Arceus paradox, not really. I just mean this article can definitively solve the arguing. (I've seen A LOT of arguing on the subject.) [[User:Bttsstewart|Bttsstewart]] 14:33, 14 January 2009 (UTC)<br />
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To answer above from Rocket Admin Hunter Blade & LordArceus): I didn't think I was 'qualified' enough to contribute to the cleanup. I though you sort of had to be in the webiste 'inner ring'. Haha. I guess that's silly. I've just had a look and I think it's fine as it is. It's just the allignment of the dot points that's a little dodgy. [[User:Bttsstewart|Bttsstewart]] 14:42, 14 January 2009 (UTC)<br />
:The only "qualification" you need, is the ability to not get carried away and screw everything up. Other than that, you should be able to do a lot, such as grammar mistakes, spelling, punctuation, and moving text to the correct sections. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 22:11, 14 January 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Celebi, Jirachi and Shaymin ==<br />
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Where did the "theory" come around supposing that Celebi, Jirachi and Shaymin were all born at the same time, and after the invention of the Unown writing system? There's no evidence to support this, so why even include it? [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 22:55, 23 January 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Pictures ==<br />
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I think it would improve this article a great deal of some pictures were included. It would give people more of an idea of what they were reading about. If anyone has any pictures of ancient Sinnoh region tapestries, or anything similar, be sure to add it to the article! [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 22:55, 23 January 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Kyogre Problem ==<br />
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How could Kyogre have expanded the sea with the help of Manaphy and Lugia when it went to sleep millions of years before, and wasn't woken up again until the events of Generation III? I think that, considering the fact that the Pokémon world is very similar to our own, the sea was probably created the same way that Earth's sea was, and that the theory of it being created by Pokémon is simply a legend. There is definately no archaelogical evidence that it was expanded by Pokémon! Maybe, until we are certain, we shouldn't mention how the sea was created like it is fact. [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 22:55, 23 January 2009 (UTC)<br />
:Please sign your edits. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 19:39, 23 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
::This is all based off Dex entries and such. Kyogre created the oceans, not Manaphy or Lugia[[User:DCM|<font color="#FF1111">DCM</font>]]<sub>[[User talk:DCM|((<font color="#DAA520">曲奇饼妖怪</font>]]</sub><sub>[[Special:Contributions/DCM|<font color="#C0C0C0">Spy on My Edits</font>))]]</sub><br />
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==Writing System==<br />
The article claims that the first writing system was created 1500 years before Generation 1. If this is based on present time, the first writing system was created in 500 AD. I haven't done any research yet, but I'm just noting that in our world, writing was created in about 2500 BC (Egyptians). This would be 4500 years before the present. [[User:Firemaker|Firemaker]] 23:29, 3 January 2009 (UTC)<br />
Also the information about the pokemon (Mamoswine, Farfetch'd, Magikarp); is that true? [[User:Firemaker|Firemaker]] 23:29, 3 January 2009 (UTC)<br />
:Writing first came about around 3400-3000 BC. It's still disputed wether Egypt or Mesopotamia had the oldest writing system. And for your second question, yes. Mamoswine are based off of woolly mammoths, so their history is almost the same as in our world. Farfetch'd have been mentioned somewhere, for their history, but I can't remember. And then Magikarp are the easiest. Many of their TCG Pokédex info boxes talk about it. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 23:48, 5 January 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Gigas? ==<br />
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Didn't IT make the three, not humans? '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:16, 1 May 2009 (UTC)<br />
:It says that? I haven't been paying attention then... They came around naturally, so nobody really created them, not even Regigigas. Although Platinum DOES say he did, the problem is that the Pt. Dex entry goes against what the Gen. III Dex entries say. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 18:48, 1 May 2009 (UTC)<br />
::I think it says in the Gen III Pokédex entries that humans created the first three Regis. Regigigas, on the other hand, came into being naturally, and helped to shape the continents. That's what I always though anyway. [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 19:55, 29 May 2009 (UTC)<br />
:::I read that Gigas did the continents, but it became too strong so humans made the Regis and used them as keys to seal it away. Of course, that may have come from this site.... &mdash; <small>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<font color="#0000C8">THE TROM</font></small>]] &mdash; 08:23, 30 May 2009 (UTC)<br />
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::::That's the thing... most of the stuff on Bulba is from other things here... but in this case, it's hard to decide. Because how can it control the Regis if they were made by humans? Either mind control because they're so similar, or the humans made three original Regis, and then Gigas made more. '''[[Team Rocket|<small><span style="color: #550000;">R.A.</span></small>]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Hunter</font></small>]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Blade</font></small>]]''' 23:16, 30 May 2009 (UTC)<br />
:::I'm not seeing where in the Gen III Pokedex entries it says that humans created them... Registeel and Regirock's say that humans sealed them away, but have nothing that I can see about humans creating them. Unless I am misreading horribly, that part of the timeline needs to be changed. - [[User:C.Olimar788|C.Olimar788]] 21:52, 2 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::The Pokedexes definitely don't say that humans made the Regi.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 21:26, 1 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Prehistory and Recent History ==<br />
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I personally think this article needs to be either fixed up, deleted, or at least protected, especially the Prehistory and Recent History sections. I mean, at least part of those sections are true, but the rest of it is rubbish. Who ever said the Regis were made in their respective ages? Part of it has nothing to do with Pokémon: why is Apollo 11 even in here? I just want your opinion. [[User:Leafstorm151|Leafstorm151]] 18:26, 6 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:Because. The Pokémon world has some things tied in with ours. And in the Gen I games and their remakes, a guy talks about buying a color TV just to see Neil Armstrong land on the moon. And the Regis is most likely speculation, but at the same time not. '''[[Team Rocket|<small><span style="color: #550000;">R.A.</span></small>]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Hunter</font></small>]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Blade</font></small>]]''' 19:02, 6 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
::Regis were made by Gigas then Gigas was sealed and the Regis got exported to Hoenn to keep them away. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#DAA520">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#C0C0C0">chidna</span>]]''' 00:50, 7 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== What about Damos? ==<br />
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It is stated that {{p|Arceus}} "FIRST" fall into never ending sleep BEFORE the first humans appeared ehh...but in the case of Movie12 Arceus meets Damos, a human, what about that?.....I mean that the first humans appeared after Arceus fall into never ending sleep then....i think we should change that section..."[[Sceptile (Pokémon)|☆]][[User:AngelGuardian|<span style="color: #6890F0;">Angel</span>]][[User talk:AngelGuardian|<span style="color: #C0C0C0;">Guardian</span>]][[Brendan (game)|☆]]" 07:33, 8 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
:Speculation=no. Until we see movie 12 nothing gets added.--[[User:RexRacer|'''<font color="#E7CE6B">Rex</font>]][[User talk:RexRacer|<font color="#42528C ">Racer</font>''']] 07:35, 8 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
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So you mean that whole story of Movie12, of Damos or whatever happens was all because of manga? i mean you get all the information on manga?"[[Sceptile (Pokémon)|☆]][[User:AngelGuardian|<span style="color: #6890F0;">Angel</span>]][[User talk:AngelGuardian|<span style="color: #C0C0C0;">Guardian</span>]][[Brendan (game)|☆]]" 07:40, 8 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
:Until Movie 12 gets released there can still be doubts. Just wait. I'm sure everything will be explained in time. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#DAA520">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#C0C0C0">chidna</span>]]''' 07:44, 8 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
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Arceus, as the creator of the space-time continuum, could logically travel through time in a manner similar it Celibi or Dialga. Also Arceus may have created clones of itself to manage the world while it is asleep.-Mtn_otter<br />
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== Whats with the Humans land on the moon ==<br />
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Is this Just for fun, because it has no relation with pokemon at all... ---> [[User:223david|<span style="color:#D42E2E;">'''223'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/223david|<span style="color:#B69E00;">☆</span>]][[User talk:223david|<span style="color:#2E2ED4;">'''Dåv]d'''</span>]]''' 12:29, 10 August 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:If you've EVER played R/B/Y, or FRLG, you'd know. An old guy in the [[Pewter Museum of Science]] mentions getting a color TV just for that moment. '''[[Team Rocket|<small><span style="color: #550000;">R.A.</span></small>]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Hunter</font></small>]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Blade</font></small>]]''' 16:24, 10 August 2009 (UTC)<br />
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::oh.... never played anything other than gen 4 :P ---> [[User:223david|<span style="color:#D42E2E;">'''223'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/223david|<span style="color:#B69E00;">☆</span>]][[User talk:223david|<span style="color:#2E2ED4;">'''Dåv]d'''</span>]]''' 02:30, 11 August 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:::Well then, now you know. '''[[Team Rocket|<small><span style="color: #550000;">R.A.</span></small>]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Hunter</font></small>]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Blade</font></small>]]''' 02:31, 11 August 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Pictures! ==<br />
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I just added some pictures to the article, relevant to each era in the history of the Pokémon World. It makes it look a lot more interesting, don't you think? [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 17:58, 14 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Leaf ==<br />
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Shouldn't we remove Leaf from the article? HG/SS proves that Red's story is the canon one, and Leaf doesn't exist in Red's continuity because she never appeared during his quest. - [[User:Crystal Master|Crystal Master]]<br />
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:Absolutely not, unless we also remove {{ga|Kris}} due to non-interaction with {{ga|Gold}} in {{v2|Crystal}}. And we're not removing Kris. Just because Leaf doesn't appear in {{2v2|HeartGold|SoulSilver}} doesn't mean we should treat Leaf as if she never existed. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 20:04, 19 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
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::I left Kris there just in case that for whatever reason you consider Pokémon Crystal to be canon rather than the remakes (which would still mean the Leaf isn't part of continuity).<br />
::And even if you're going to assume that Leaf existed somewhere, the article is still wrong because she can't have had the same story she had in FR/LG. That would mean that both Red and Leaf had the same mom, the same house, the same rival and the same events within the same continuity, which makes no sense. If she was part of continuity, she would have a different role from Red's, like May and Dawn had in Brendan and Lucas' respective stories. Moreover, the article states that she defeated Green/Blue in the Pokémon League and became the new champion, which can't have happened, considering that Blue/Green states in HG/SS that the trainer who defeated him shortly after he became champion was Red, not Leaf.<br />
::Lastly, the article should be about writing what we know that happened, not what might have happened. We know that Red's story is canon and Leaf's isn't, as they can't both happen in the same continuity. Therefore, we know that Leaf never appeared in continuity. That there's a Leaf somewhere in the established continuity is unfounded speculation, no matter how much some people want her to be part of it. - [[User:Crystal Master|Crystal Master]]<br />
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:::There are absolutely no acceptable grounds in removing all references to Leaf from the article. By removing parts from the article, you're trying to imply Leaf never existed to begin with, and for that to be true, FireRed/LeafGreen would have to have had only a male player character. Either that or there would have to have been no FireRed/LeafGreen (and if that were to be the case, there would be no HeartGold/SoulSilver either).<br />
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:::Those parts from the article you're trying to have removed in no way imply Leaf exists in HeartGold/SoulSilver; to have any area of the article imply any involvement from Leaf in HeartGold/SoulSilver, Leaf would have to be mentioned in one of the sections further below, and last I saw, there weren't any such mentions.<br />
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:::In conclusion: Leaf exists, and she always will. The fact HeartGold/SoulSilver doesn't mention her does not change that. Where Leaf is already mentioned, she should be. Where Leaf shouldn't be mentioned, she's already not. Trying to erase all traces of her existence from the article is akin to vandalism. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 23:58, 19 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
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::::Oh, ok. So you weren't saying that there was a Leaf somewhere in the HG/SS timeline. My bad.<br />
::::Anyway, correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this article about the timeline of the Pokémon world? Isn't it about making a recollection of the canonical events in the established continuity and making it the less ambiguous possible (ie: saying that "Brendan/May" became the Hoenn champion only because we don't have confirmation about which story is the canonical one, which is different from the case in FR/LG)?<br />
::::Also, I thought that the most recent games that rewrite history take priority over the older ones. In the RSE section we say that the player calmed down Groudon and Kyogre with Rayquaza's help (as depicted in Emerald), not that s/he "stopped Groudon/Kyogre" (as depicted in Ruby and Sapphire respectively), because we use the most recent rewrite of the RSE story, Emerald, as canon. Likewise, shouldn't the GS remakes, which established that Red's story happened in the timeline but Leaf's didn't, take priority over FR/LG (as HG/SS are the most recent games)?<br />
::::Edit: I'm not saying that Leaf doesn't exist. I'm saying that she doesn't exist in the continuity established by the overall timeline (if you believe HGSS or GSC), which I think this article is supposed to be about. - [[User:Crystal Master|Crystal Master]]<br />
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Perhaps instead of rewording the article to not mention Leaf, we reword the Gen III section to be ambiguous as to it's version:<br />
:"After defeating Hoenn's eight Gym Leaders and, with the help of Steven and Wallace, calming Groudon and/or Kyogre after they are awakened by Team Magma/Team Aqua, respectively, he/she...."<br />
AFAIK, Platinum's story is different from Pearl and Diamond, yet no mention of Giratina is made. Just keep the version ambiguous. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 03:07, 22 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:Drop me some drafts and I might consider it. I'd really want the text to securely take all player bases into consideration yet not allow possible relentless editing to try to make it look like one player base never existed in the canon. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 03:19, 22 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
::There's a draft right there, just replace the one sentence. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 03:24, 22 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Protection?! ==<br />
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Thanks a lot! I've been working really hard on improving this article over the last few months and now it's been protected! What is the reasoning behind this? --[[User:Taromon777|<span style="color:turquoise">'''''Taromon777'''''</span>]] <small>''</small> 20:21, 27 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:Ever think about [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=History_of_the_Pok%C3%A9mon_world&action=history checking]? '''[[Team Rocket|<small><span style="color: #550000;">R.A.</span></small>]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Hunter</font></small>]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Blade</font></small>]]''' 22:25, 27 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
::Page now unlocked as both parties in the edit war reached a truce. &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 22:27, 27 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
:::Yay, I can edit again now, thanks! Sorry if I came across a bit impolite before. --[[User:Taromon777|<span style="color:turquoise">'''''Taromon777'''''</span>]] <small>''</small> 10:24, 28 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Colosseum and XD ==<br />
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how do we know it takes place 2 years after Gen 2 and 4?--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|<span style="color:#000000">Midnight</span>]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|<span style="color:#191970">''Blue''</span>]]''' 18:33, 8 November 2009 (UTC)<br />
:Not quite. According to the page, Colosseum takes place sometime between Generation I/III and II/IV, which makes sense, and then XD ''is'' supposed to be set quite a few years from Colosseum, although I don't know how we got "two years after Gen IV" specifically. [[User:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#006400">'''Zesty'''</span>]][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#3CB371">'''Cactus'''</span>]] 19:04, 8 November 2009 (UTC)<br />
Ok, thanx. I just thought someone just put that there without proof.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|<span style="color:#000000">Midnight</span>]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|<span style="color:#191970">''Blue''</span>]]''' 19:16, 8 November 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Can anyone tell me how is it possible for Generation II and IV happened at the same time? ==<br />
Its not possible because Jasmine is in the Sinnoh Region right?--[[User:Jason avelino|Jason avelino]] 10:42, 2 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:People just say that because they believe the odd-numbered generations take place at the same time. Yet there's zero proof of even that--no timeframes are ever stated for when the games that take place in either [[Hoenn]] or [[Sinnoh]] take place. For all we know, the [[Generation III]] Hoenn games takes place five years after [[Generation II]] and the [[Generation IV]] Sinnoh games take place 10 years further down the road, and yet the technology of their respective platforms allows them to trade freely with the remakes in their generation that do take place at the same time as their originals (addtionally, in Hoenn's case, it can even freely trade with two console games that take place years apart). Besides, where was it stated that the [[red Gyarados]] in the {{2v2|Diamond|Pearl}} intro is the one from the [[Lake of Rage]]? Right, nowhere. Yet people are using such a baseless assumption as evidence of the even-numbered generations taking place at or around the same time.<br />
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:The only times timeframes between two games are ever stated are the case between [[Generation I]] and [[Generation II]] being three years apart, and {{pkmn|Colosseum}} and {{pkmn|XD: Gale of Darkness}} being five years apart. The fact that both of the latter are compatible with all handheld Generation III games just goes to show that we don't know when the Hoenn and Sinnoh games take place, and that all assumptions of them taking place at the same time as the remakes in their repsective generations are baseless and shouldn't be trusted. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 13:02, 2 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Ok thanks for answering my question...--[[User:Jason avelino|Jason avelino]] 05:35, 3 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Timeframe for Sinnoh, by the way. Rowan returned from Kanto after four years of study with Oak. Red Gyarados specials were still airing on TV. Sinnoh's either during or shortly after the story of Johto. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#DAA520">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#C0C0C0">chidna</span>]]''' 06:42, 3 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Not necessarily. The Red Gyarados report had Mount Coronet in the background. That means the Red Gyarados couldn't have been in Johto. [[User:Edge578|Edge578]] 18:46, 2 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Rayquaza from MINERALS? ==<br />
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Where the heck is this from? None of the Pokedexes mention it, and well, there aren't minerals in the ozone layer. They'd be much, much too heavy. Even if a volcano erupts and sprays ash (not minerals) into the air, it doesn't reach the ozone layer.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 21:28, 1 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Regis Created By Humans? ==<br />
Where does it say that the Regis were made by man? Or that they were made in the three eras (except for Regice)? In fact, Registeel is said to be "tens of thousands" of years old, according to the Pokedex, whereas the Iron Age was just 3,000 years ago. [[User:Plasma|Plasma]] 20:06, 9 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==Generation V==<br />
Due to the fact that Cynthia and Looker mention Lucas/Dawn in passing, it can be safely assumed that Generation V takes place around the same time as XD. [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] <sup>([[User_talk:TorchicBlaziken|talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/TorchicBlaziken|edits]])</sup> 01:11, 18 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Not necessarily. It can be assumed to take place after Platinum, but we have no idea exactly how long after. --[[User:AndyPKMN|Andy<sup>P</sup><sub>K</sub><sup>M</sup><sub>N</sub>]] 12:06, 18 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
Can we edit the Generation IV timeline by shifting the focus to Platinum's storyline rather than Diamond/Pearl with Platinum in parentheses? I believe Cynthia says something about the trainer who battled Giratina, which isn't in the DP Storyline. [[User:Pocketfanmk|Pocketfanmk]] 17:20, 13 November 2010 (UTC)<br />
:I agree with pocketfanmk, considering that Platinum is the only game all three of the trio members and that the game is more detailed in all senses. As for Generation V... That's a tough one. [[User:Smashbrother101|Smashbrother101]] 00:24, 30 November 2010 (UTC)<br />
: It's true. Because of the Gen V references we can assume that the Platinum Story is the canonical one, instead of the DP Story.line<br />
About the time of each generation(like what he said:I-III--II-IV) is this because of the remakes of red and blue, <br />
in Gen III and gold and silver, in Gen IV?. If it is, and if they will make a remake of ruby and sapphire in Gen V, then shouldn't it be I-III-V---II-IV? [[User:Phoenixon|Phoenixon]] 15:16, 28 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== More than one Regigigas? ==<br />
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''"Landmasses such as Mt. Coronet are created, and '''Regigigas move''' the continents, forming the regions,"''<br />
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Grammar suggests more than one, is this true or did someone make a typo?--[[User:Burgundy|<font color="yellow">Bu</font><font color="red">rg</font>]][[User talk: Burgundy|<font color="blue">un</font><font color="green">dy</font>]] 06:40, 30 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
:I don't think it is suggesting that there were more than one. But I could be wrong. :/--[[User:Han Ji-Wan|Han Ji-Wan]] 07:12, 30 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
::Well there are [[M11|multiple Regigigas]] [[DP129|in the anime]], so it may not be an error. <small><span style="color:white; background-color:blue">'''X'''</span>[[User:Vuvuzela2010|<span style="color:blue; background-color:white">'''Vuvuzela2010''']]</span><span style="color:white; background-color:blue">'''X'''</span></small> 11:17, 30 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
:::That bit seems fine, but the tense of that whole section is weird. Shouldn't it be in past tense? --[[User:Jda95|jda95]] 12:41, 30 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
::::If there is only one Regigigas, it would be "''Regigigas moves''"--[[User:Burgundy|<font color="yellow">Bu</font><font color="red">rg</font>]][[User talk: Burgundy|<font color="blue">un</font><font color="green">dy</font>]] 16:17, 30 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Basis of article ==<br />
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Is this article based on the games or the anime? --[[User:Fimbulwinter2012|<span style="color:navy">☆'''FiMbUlWiNtEr2O|2'''☆</span>]] 04:15, 28 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
:I'm assuming a combination of both.. Why? --[[User:Han Ji-Wan|Han Ji-Wan]] 04:51, 28 February 2011 (UTC)</div>Phoenixonhttps://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:History_of_the_Pok%C3%A9mon_world&diff=1375300Talk:History of the Pokémon world2011-02-28T15:15:29Z<p>Phoenixon: /* Generation V */</p>
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==Shaping this article==<br />
I think this article needs to be redesigned... "history" is a bit of a general term - there are differences between the histories in different parts on the cannon (games, anime and different manga series have contradicted each other several times in the past). We need to make rules to decide what goes in and what doesn't...--[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|ElectAbuzzzz]] 12:37, 13 April 2007 (UTC)<br />
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It may not even be possible to write such an article since there is not much historical information, not to mention a good part of it is legend. (Then again, in this world it seems legends are generally true.) - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]]<sub>[[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]]</sub> 15:17, 13 April 2007 (UTC)<br />
:I think it's more accurate to say that the Pokemon that ''appear'' in legend are true. There's no solid evidence to say that the Sinnoh Myths aren't simply that: Myth. I feel that until Nintendo officially confirms that Arceus did in fact create the Universe, or any other legend, such as Regigigas moving the continents, we should treat them purely as myth and/or theory, and not include them with articles dealing with fact, such as this Timeline.--[[User:Dual|Dual]] 03:11, 15 August 2007 (UTC)<br />
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The timeline must have another sub article--[[User:Joshuamanimtim2|Snorlax]] 10:30, 1 May 2007 (UTC)<br />
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Should the spinoff games (Colosseum, XD, Ranger, Snap...) fit in anywhere? There's not a lot of evidence linking those to the handheld games... is there any way to put them in? --[[User:Kayube|Kayube]] 04:09, 17 June 2007 (UTC)<br />
:I doubt it. There is no indication that any events in the non-handheld games are canon to the basic storyline, so there's no real point to including it here. On another note, it's my personal opinion that this needs to be moved to a different article, because there isn't much of the history that has been confirmed; most of it, as has been mentioned, is legend and theory. Regardless, I'm going to try to clean this up a bit and Wikify it some. [[User:Vekter|Vekter]] 15:40, 15 April 2008 (UTC)<br />
::Well, the Pokemon Ranger games seem to actually reference events from the games (and also is the reason why {{p|Manaphy}} even exists in the main games.) If we aren't going to count the Ranger games are canon to the basic storyline, then we shouldn't count Manaphy as canon, either, since that's the only EVENT pokemon in the main series that debuted in a side game/spinoff game rather than in the main game series. Besides, since we can't transfer any prior gen pokemon onto the R/S/E/FR/LG game packs, Pokemon Colosseum is currently the only legit way to even ACQUIRE Celebi (though this is only in the Japanese version), and it (as well as it's sequel, Gale of darkness) is also the only OTHER legit way to acquire Ho-Oh and Lugia if you didn't get the Mystic tickets in the Emerald/FR/LG versions. now, for games like Mystery dungeon, yes, those SHOULDN'T be counted as canon in there, since that's an Alt universe. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 13:04, 11 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::What should NOT be considered canon is all this fan-made BS about Pokemon populations decreasing, when the unobtainables came into being, how Doduo/Dodrio came to have multiple heads, etc. -- [[User:Umbee|Umbee]] 22:01, 2 October 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::Do you think the "Contemporary History" should be moved to a new article called "Timeline of events in the games"? This article is supposed to be about how the Pokémon Universe developed, not what happened in it afterwards.<br />
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== Can anyone state where it was said that the S.S. Tidal was created in the 1990s? ==<br />
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I need to know because the article said it was created in that time period, and yet I don't really recall the games even stating that it was created in the 1990s (In fact, I don't even recall it even mentioning the date of when it was created at all).<br />
:Don't forget to sign your comment with four tildes <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. On to the subject i agree there is no mention of when it was built nor is there mention of its age and assume its age from the release date. So Any suggestions on what to do with it? [[User:Pterodactal|Pterodactal]] 07:00, 16 September 2007 (UTC)<br />
::I seem to recall the ship was under construction during the journey portion of [[Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire|R/S/]][[Pokémon Emerald|E]]. [[User:Bardock|Bar]][[User_Talk:Bardock|dock]] 12:33, 27 January 2009 (UTC)<br />
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I created it. Sorry. But we could leave it as it is. [[User:Joshuamanimtim2|K.J.Boring]] 11:31, 15 September 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Generation III ==<br />
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It should be sometime BEFORE Generation II and AFTER Generation I because Generation II states that STEEL is a NEWLY discovered type, and Generation III has steel types...[[Image:Ani475MS.gif]] <sc>'''[[User:Optimus35|<span style="color:#000033">A</span><span style="color:#003366">g</span><span style="color:#215670">e</span><span style="color:#006699">n</span><span style="color:#2D6E89">t</span>]] [[User talk:Optimus35|<span style="color:#0066CC">#</span><span style="color:#3D81EE">4</span><span style="color:#66B5FF">4</span><span style="color:#99C9FF">8</span>]]'''</sc> <sup><sc><span class="plainlinks">[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?limit=50&title=Special%3AContributions&contribs=user&target=Optimus35&namespace=0&year=&month=-1 <span style="color:#000000;">☆</span>] | [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZPMmUEHFIU <span style="color:#FF0000;">♥</span>]</span></sc></sup>[[Image:Ani282MS.gif]][[Image:SpriteOptimus35.PNG|This will put you off eating for life!]] 12:30, 23 November 2007 (UTC)<br />
:Here's how the Generations go in chronological order (This isn't merely fanon, it is supported by evidence from the various canons.)<br />
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Generation I&rarr;Generation III&rarr;&rarr;&rarr;Generation II&rarr;Generation IV<br />
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&rarr;=short time in betweeen<br>&rarr;&rarr;&rarr;=long time in between<br />
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:: This really puzzles me - I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just confused by this: how exactly are Generations in that order? I don't even understand how Generations I and II could have their timelines connected with III and IV... Ie: what is the canonical proof for this? (not because I'd doubt it - rather I'd love to know it, please) [[User:Sipulichu|Sipulichu]] 20:51, 31 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
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:I don't think that Steel is newly DISCOVERED type. It's just newly classified type out of those we actually had (the Steel Pokémon could be identified as Rock Pokémon before). The text in game may be mistranslated, since American Pokémon media loves to give us a shit about "new" Pokémon. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 13:26, 23 November 2007 (UTC)<br />
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== Moon Stone ==<br />
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What about "The Moon Stone"?<br />
Of [[EP006|Clefairy and the Moon Stone]]:<br />
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"Seymour theorizes this is because both '''the Pokémon came from outer space''', and '''the Moon Stone was their spacecraft''' - which means the Stone belongs to the Pokémon, and the humans must leave it alone."<br />
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That was only in the animé. As far as I know, the whole "Pokémon came from outer-space" thing was never mentioned in any game.--[[User:Pokencyclopedia|Pokencyclopedia]] 23:59, 2 January 2008 (UTC)<br />
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Except for MAYBE Deoxys and the Clefairy family<br />
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How about Jirachi? Comet=Outer Space --'''[[User:Theryguy512|<span style="color:#FF7F00">Theryguy</span>]][[User talk:Theryguy512|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">5</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">1</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">2</span>]]''' 18:52, 13 January 2008 (UTC)<br />
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thanks for pointing him out, Theryguy512.<br />
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IIRC there is an NPC in the Space Center that mentions the theory in Generation III. I believe I've also seen this mentioned in other games, though I may be mistaken. [[User:Vekter|Vekter]] 15:43, 15 April 2008 (UTC)<br />
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:Lunatone and Solrock appearantly came from outer space as well. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|<font color="midnightblue" face="comic sans ms">'''$aturn'''</font>]][[User:SaturnYoshi|<font color="green" face="comic sans ms">'''¥oshi'''</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:SaturnYoshi|<font color="maroon">THE VOICES</font>]]</sup> 14:40, 6 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Where did the bird trio go? Sinnoh. ==<br />
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Look at this, the legendary bird trio ( Articuno, Zapdos, Moltres ) is revealed to roam Sinnoh in Pokémon Platnum. These three, are missing in the GSC games (they can't be found in Kanto). So, they might have flown to Sinnoh. [[User:Joshuamanimtim2|K.J.Boring]] 04:55, 14 September 2008 (UTC)<br />
:Maybe if someone actually says that in-game. Otherwise, it's speculation.--[[User:Urutapu|Loveはドコ?]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] <small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 05:03, 14 September 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::No one says that those are the same birds though. The Frontier brains afterall have legendary birds aswell.<br />
Forgot to sign name--[[User:Outrage DD|Outrage DD]] 23:26, 3 October 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::In the anime as well, it's shown that there are multiple versions of legendaries (even in the same frame, a mother and baby Lugia come to mind). ←{'''[[User:Berrymaster|<font color="purple">Berr</font><font color="blue">yma</font><font color="green">ster</font>]]|[[User_talk:Berrymaster|<font color="gold">Talk</font>]]|[[Special:Contributions/Berrymaster|<font color="silver">Contrib</font>]]'''}→ 23:28, 3 October 2008 (UTC)<br />
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==Clean-Up, Please?==<br />
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Going through this article, all I see is fan speculation and unusual conclusions. I for one would like to see some evidence of these claims, as many of them see totally made-up. For example: What connection to Kyogre and Manaphy have? And "herds" of Latios and Latias? As far as I remember, it's one for each player. I wouldn't say there were "herds" of Mewtwo, would you? <br />
[[User:Me, Hurray!|Me, Hurray!]] 03:05, 27 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
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:Actually, the "Herds" of Latios and Latias was stated in the Pokedex Entries of Latios and Latias. Don't believe me? Try looking at the pokedex portion of their article. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 03:12, 27 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
::[[Kyogre]] and [[Manaphy]] were both in Ranger of The Sea Temple ( i think thats what it was called)[[User:DCM|<font color="#FF1111">DCM</font>]]<sub>[[User talk:DCM|((<font color="#DAA520">Shut the **** up</font>]]</sub><sub>[[Special:Contributions/DCM|<font color="#C0C0C0">Spy on My Edits</font>))]]</sub><br />
::Mewtwo is the only successful clone (attempted by humans) of a Pokémon as far as we know. And we're 100% certain that he's the only Mewtwo out there. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 03:25, 27 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
::And in the case of the games, it's also the only cloned pokemon, Period [even then, lab notes hinted that it wasn't even a clone {the whole "Mew Gave Birth" thing comes to mind}.] [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 00:17, 29 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
:: Okay, okay, but I still think these should be referenced in the article. It is still true that most of the article is mere specualtion, however. [[User:Me, Hurray!|Me, Hurray!]] 04:32, 27 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::Actually, I doubt that half of it is speculation. Most of it is from the games. Yeah, some of it is guessing for the dates, but that is why they have a large number of years separating the different sections, as the games don't give specific dates, except for that Arceus created the Pokémon universe. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 17:15, 27 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::: Because everything mentioned in the games is meant to be taken literally. Yes. I see it now. Silly me.[[User:Me, Hurray!|Me, Hurray!]] 20:41, 27 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
Sorry. I didn't mean for it to seem like that. When things are typed, they always sound different in the mind of somebody else. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 00:16, 29 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
:: I'm sorry, I strayed away from the point. My only problem is that there is no evidence and there are no citations in the artical. It's alright pointing things out here in the talk page, but if there's no evidence in the artical itself then I don't think it meets certain standards. I'm really just requesting evidence.<br />
:::We can't really cite the games, which is why there aren't any citations at the moment. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 21:22, 2 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::You can ''sorta'' cite the games. Who to talk to and where to see what's said. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:14, 7 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::True. But I think the citing that Me, Hurray is talking about is links and stuff. Or at least very specific descriptions of where they come from. Links we can't do for games, but yeah, I guess it would take some time, but we could find all of the people who tell us the random info. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 04:20, 7 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::: Mentioning who gives the information in-game sounds like a satasfactory measure to me. at least then the information can be varified and proven correct. [[User:Me, Hurray!|Me, Hurray!]] 16:46, 8 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
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==Rotom==<br />
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it is never said that Rotom was made in the 70's, infact I taught [[Pluto]] discovered it in the 50's, so I think we should leave it blank until Platinum's out in english [[User:Ultamatecharizard|<span style="background:#000000; color:#FF0000;">Ultamate</span>]][[User Talk:Ultamatecharizard|<sub><font color="#FF5A00">Charizard</font></sub>]] 16:49, 8 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
:I only knew he discovered it. In his youth. I didn't know there was a date involved. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 22:25, 8 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
::I still don't get who put that in, I mean it would be diffrent it was ever said but I looked Rotom's page and it didn't say anything [[User:Ultamatecharizard|<span style="background:#000000; color:#FF0000;">Ultamate</span>]][[User Talk:Ultamatecharizard|<sub><font color="#FF5A00">Charizard</font></sub>]]<br />
:::All you have to do is go through the editing history. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 20:31, 16 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
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==Multiple Mew!?==<br />
Alright, who said that Mew were plentiful soon after the creation of the Pokémon world? And how does anyone know that [[Mew (Lucario and the Mystery of Mew)|this Mew]] is different from [[Mew (Mewtwo Strikes Back)|that Mew]]? It could just be a different voice actor. [[User:Palkiajosh|パルキアJosh]] 23:23, 9 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
*Ok, about the reason why Mew from Mewtwo Strikes Back being different from the Mew from Lucario and the Mystery of Mew, it's for a couple of reasons. Yes, the voice doesn't necessarily mean much, however, MSB's Mew's Japanese VA was definitely in the 8th Movie as he (she? I don't really know the VA's gender) was the one who voiced Sir Aaron in that Movie. I mean, why would they give Mew a different VA (assuming that it IS the same one) if it's original VA is still very much available? Plus, the one from Movie 1 was very far from Kanto, and If this were the same mew, it would spend most of it's time inside of a Lake/Jungle than in a deciduous forest with a [[Tree of Beginning|Tree-like Rock formation]], not to mention that MSB's Mew lives a considerably far distance from Kanto, or heck, any of the regions that have been seen thus far, while LatMoM's Mew was located, if not in Kanto, then just barely beyond the border. As for the multiple parts, I'm guessing the fossilized remains of a Mew, as well as it being a genetic ancestor to every pokemon seems to answer that question.) [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 23:36, 9 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
Don't forget that the first Mew was seen to be sleeping underwater, possibly for a long time, untill Mewtwo unleashed his power on the world, creating storms and kidnapping the Nurse Joy of the city. The most recent Mew, was seen to have been connected to the Tree of Beginning, so it should be assumed Mew can't be away from it for long periods of time (longer than seen in the movie). And it and the Tree are so closely connected, when Mew would be damaged in the first movie, the Tree would also sustain damage. And the first Mew is also living in the Johto area, not Kanto. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 21:54, 10 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
Mew is the ancestor of all life. A being cannot breed with itself. Thus-multiple Mews-Mtn_Otter<br />
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== Lugia did what? ==<br />
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Who ever said Lugia actually created the 3 birds? just because it's the master trio doesn't mean it created them. --'''[[User:InuMimi|<span style="color:#CC99CC">いぬ</span>]][[User talk:InuMimi|<span style="color:#CCCCCC">みみ</span>]]''' 23:42, 16 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
:Well........now thats up to interpretation. I say no[[User:DCM|<font color="#FF1111">DCM</font>]]<sub>[[User talk:DCM|((<font color="#DAA520">曲奇饼妖怪</font>]]</sub><sub>[[Special:Contributions/DCM|<font color="#C0C0C0">Spy on My Edits</font>))]]</sub><br />
::I agree. It doesn't say anywhere that he created them. It just says that a Lugia has the power to destroy (Pokédex entries) or save the world (movie), depending on the situation. It only has control over the birds and their powers, and I think they only obey him out of respect for a higher being. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 16:13, 18 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Cleanup! ==<br />
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This article is really very well done as it sums up everything so those supposed continuity errors are straingtened out (such as the "Which came first? Arceus or Mew?" paradox). But I really think it needs a cleanup. All it has are random dot points on Pokemon that aren't related. Clean it up!<br />
Also, fan assumptions should be excluded! It's annoying to see speculation assumed as fact. [[User:Bttsstewart|Bttsstewart]] 15:30, 18 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
:Well, we've been trying to do that for a while. And if you want it cleaned up, then don't just tell people to do it. You need to do something too. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 16:10, 18 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
::There really isn't a paradox concerning Arceus and Mew. It is ''believed'' (according to Dex entries) that Mew is the ancestor of Pokémon, but it clearly states in the DPPt origin story that Arceus was born before every other Pokémon (before the universem even). Arceus created Mew, ta-dah! And like [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] said, you can't just tell people to do things you want done. [[User:LordArceus|<span style="color:#FF0000">'''Lord'''</span>]][[User talk:LordArceus|<span style="color:#FF0000">'''Arc'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/LordArceus|<span style="color:#FF0000">'''eus'''</span>]] 16:12, 18 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
I've had an interesting theory, which could solve the Arceus/Mew paradox. Arceus may have created the universe, but what if Mew came around before the universe was created, and Arceus sort of descended from it? Also, Mew is the ANSCESTOR of all Pokémon, not necassarily their creator. So if Arceus created Dialga and Palkia and the Lake Trio, then they are still anscestors of Mew, because Arceus is.<br />
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Please remember to sign comments. I realise that there's no Mew/Arceus paradox, not really. I just mean this article can definitively solve the arguing. (I've seen A LOT of arguing on the subject.) [[User:Bttsstewart|Bttsstewart]] 14:33, 14 January 2009 (UTC)<br />
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To answer above from Rocket Admin Hunter Blade & LordArceus): I didn't think I was 'qualified' enough to contribute to the cleanup. I though you sort of had to be in the webiste 'inner ring'. Haha. I guess that's silly. I've just had a look and I think it's fine as it is. It's just the allignment of the dot points that's a little dodgy. [[User:Bttsstewart|Bttsstewart]] 14:42, 14 January 2009 (UTC)<br />
:The only "qualification" you need, is the ability to not get carried away and screw everything up. Other than that, you should be able to do a lot, such as grammar mistakes, spelling, punctuation, and moving text to the correct sections. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 22:11, 14 January 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Celebi, Jirachi and Shaymin ==<br />
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Where did the "theory" come around supposing that Celebi, Jirachi and Shaymin were all born at the same time, and after the invention of the Unown writing system? There's no evidence to support this, so why even include it? [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 22:55, 23 January 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Pictures ==<br />
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I think it would improve this article a great deal of some pictures were included. It would give people more of an idea of what they were reading about. If anyone has any pictures of ancient Sinnoh region tapestries, or anything similar, be sure to add it to the article! [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 22:55, 23 January 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Kyogre Problem ==<br />
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How could Kyogre have expanded the sea with the help of Manaphy and Lugia when it went to sleep millions of years before, and wasn't woken up again until the events of Generation III? I think that, considering the fact that the Pokémon world is very similar to our own, the sea was probably created the same way that Earth's sea was, and that the theory of it being created by Pokémon is simply a legend. There is definately no archaelogical evidence that it was expanded by Pokémon! Maybe, until we are certain, we shouldn't mention how the sea was created like it is fact. [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 22:55, 23 January 2009 (UTC)<br />
:Please sign your edits. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 19:39, 23 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
::This is all based off Dex entries and such. Kyogre created the oceans, not Manaphy or Lugia[[User:DCM|<font color="#FF1111">DCM</font>]]<sub>[[User talk:DCM|((<font color="#DAA520">曲奇饼妖怪</font>]]</sub><sub>[[Special:Contributions/DCM|<font color="#C0C0C0">Spy on My Edits</font>))]]</sub><br />
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==Writing System==<br />
The article claims that the first writing system was created 1500 years before Generation 1. If this is based on present time, the first writing system was created in 500 AD. I haven't done any research yet, but I'm just noting that in our world, writing was created in about 2500 BC (Egyptians). This would be 4500 years before the present. [[User:Firemaker|Firemaker]] 23:29, 3 January 2009 (UTC)<br />
Also the information about the pokemon (Mamoswine, Farfetch'd, Magikarp); is that true? [[User:Firemaker|Firemaker]] 23:29, 3 January 2009 (UTC)<br />
:Writing first came about around 3400-3000 BC. It's still disputed wether Egypt or Mesopotamia had the oldest writing system. And for your second question, yes. Mamoswine are based off of woolly mammoths, so their history is almost the same as in our world. Farfetch'd have been mentioned somewhere, for their history, but I can't remember. And then Magikarp are the easiest. Many of their TCG Pokédex info boxes talk about it. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 23:48, 5 January 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Gigas? ==<br />
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Didn't IT make the three, not humans? '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:16, 1 May 2009 (UTC)<br />
:It says that? I haven't been paying attention then... They came around naturally, so nobody really created them, not even Regigigas. Although Platinum DOES say he did, the problem is that the Pt. Dex entry goes against what the Gen. III Dex entries say. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 18:48, 1 May 2009 (UTC)<br />
::I think it says in the Gen III Pokédex entries that humans created the first three Regis. Regigigas, on the other hand, came into being naturally, and helped to shape the continents. That's what I always though anyway. [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 19:55, 29 May 2009 (UTC)<br />
:::I read that Gigas did the continents, but it became too strong so humans made the Regis and used them as keys to seal it away. Of course, that may have come from this site.... &mdash; <small>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<font color="#0000C8">THE TROM</font></small>]] &mdash; 08:23, 30 May 2009 (UTC)<br />
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::::That's the thing... most of the stuff on Bulba is from other things here... but in this case, it's hard to decide. Because how can it control the Regis if they were made by humans? Either mind control because they're so similar, or the humans made three original Regis, and then Gigas made more. '''[[Team Rocket|<small><span style="color: #550000;">R.A.</span></small>]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Hunter</font></small>]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Blade</font></small>]]''' 23:16, 30 May 2009 (UTC)<br />
:::I'm not seeing where in the Gen III Pokedex entries it says that humans created them... Registeel and Regirock's say that humans sealed them away, but have nothing that I can see about humans creating them. Unless I am misreading horribly, that part of the timeline needs to be changed. - [[User:C.Olimar788|C.Olimar788]] 21:52, 2 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::The Pokedexes definitely don't say that humans made the Regi.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 21:26, 1 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Prehistory and Recent History ==<br />
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I personally think this article needs to be either fixed up, deleted, or at least protected, especially the Prehistory and Recent History sections. I mean, at least part of those sections are true, but the rest of it is rubbish. Who ever said the Regis were made in their respective ages? Part of it has nothing to do with Pokémon: why is Apollo 11 even in here? I just want your opinion. [[User:Leafstorm151|Leafstorm151]] 18:26, 6 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:Because. The Pokémon world has some things tied in with ours. And in the Gen I games and their remakes, a guy talks about buying a color TV just to see Neil Armstrong land on the moon. And the Regis is most likely speculation, but at the same time not. '''[[Team Rocket|<small><span style="color: #550000;">R.A.</span></small>]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Hunter</font></small>]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Blade</font></small>]]''' 19:02, 6 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
::Regis were made by Gigas then Gigas was sealed and the Regis got exported to Hoenn to keep them away. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#DAA520">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#C0C0C0">chidna</span>]]''' 00:50, 7 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== What about Damos? ==<br />
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It is stated that {{p|Arceus}} "FIRST" fall into never ending sleep BEFORE the first humans appeared ehh...but in the case of Movie12 Arceus meets Damos, a human, what about that?.....I mean that the first humans appeared after Arceus fall into never ending sleep then....i think we should change that section..."[[Sceptile (Pokémon)|☆]][[User:AngelGuardian|<span style="color: #6890F0;">Angel</span>]][[User talk:AngelGuardian|<span style="color: #C0C0C0;">Guardian</span>]][[Brendan (game)|☆]]" 07:33, 8 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
:Speculation=no. Until we see movie 12 nothing gets added.--[[User:RexRacer|'''<font color="#E7CE6B">Rex</font>]][[User talk:RexRacer|<font color="#42528C ">Racer</font>''']] 07:35, 8 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
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So you mean that whole story of Movie12, of Damos or whatever happens was all because of manga? i mean you get all the information on manga?"[[Sceptile (Pokémon)|☆]][[User:AngelGuardian|<span style="color: #6890F0;">Angel</span>]][[User talk:AngelGuardian|<span style="color: #C0C0C0;">Guardian</span>]][[Brendan (game)|☆]]" 07:40, 8 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
:Until Movie 12 gets released there can still be doubts. Just wait. I'm sure everything will be explained in time. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#DAA520">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#C0C0C0">chidna</span>]]''' 07:44, 8 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
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Arceus, as the creator of the space-time continuum, could logically travel through time in a manner similar it Celibi or Dialga. Also Arceus may have created clones of itself to manage the world while it is asleep.-Mtn_otter<br />
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== Whats with the Humans land on the moon ==<br />
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Is this Just for fun, because it has no relation with pokemon at all... ---> [[User:223david|<span style="color:#D42E2E;">'''223'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/223david|<span style="color:#B69E00;">☆</span>]][[User talk:223david|<span style="color:#2E2ED4;">'''Dåv]d'''</span>]]''' 12:29, 10 August 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:If you've EVER played R/B/Y, or FRLG, you'd know. An old guy in the [[Pewter Museum of Science]] mentions getting a color TV just for that moment. '''[[Team Rocket|<small><span style="color: #550000;">R.A.</span></small>]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Hunter</font></small>]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Blade</font></small>]]''' 16:24, 10 August 2009 (UTC)<br />
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::oh.... never played anything other than gen 4 :P ---> [[User:223david|<span style="color:#D42E2E;">'''223'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/223david|<span style="color:#B69E00;">☆</span>]][[User talk:223david|<span style="color:#2E2ED4;">'''Dåv]d'''</span>]]''' 02:30, 11 August 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:::Well then, now you know. '''[[Team Rocket|<small><span style="color: #550000;">R.A.</span></small>]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Hunter</font></small>]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Blade</font></small>]]''' 02:31, 11 August 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Pictures! ==<br />
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I just added some pictures to the article, relevant to each era in the history of the Pokémon World. It makes it look a lot more interesting, don't you think? [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 17:58, 14 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Leaf ==<br />
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Shouldn't we remove Leaf from the article? HG/SS proves that Red's story is the canon one, and Leaf doesn't exist in Red's continuity because she never appeared during his quest. - [[User:Crystal Master|Crystal Master]]<br />
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:Absolutely not, unless we also remove {{ga|Kris}} due to non-interaction with {{ga|Gold}} in {{v2|Crystal}}. And we're not removing Kris. Just because Leaf doesn't appear in {{2v2|HeartGold|SoulSilver}} doesn't mean we should treat Leaf as if she never existed. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 20:04, 19 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
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::I left Kris there just in case that for whatever reason you consider Pokémon Crystal to be canon rather than the remakes (which would still mean the Leaf isn't part of continuity).<br />
::And even if you're going to assume that Leaf existed somewhere, the article is still wrong because she can't have had the same story she had in FR/LG. That would mean that both Red and Leaf had the same mom, the same house, the same rival and the same events within the same continuity, which makes no sense. If she was part of continuity, she would have a different role from Red's, like May and Dawn had in Brendan and Lucas' respective stories. Moreover, the article states that she defeated Green/Blue in the Pokémon League and became the new champion, which can't have happened, considering that Blue/Green states in HG/SS that the trainer who defeated him shortly after he became champion was Red, not Leaf.<br />
::Lastly, the article should be about writing what we know that happened, not what might have happened. We know that Red's story is canon and Leaf's isn't, as they can't both happen in the same continuity. Therefore, we know that Leaf never appeared in continuity. That there's a Leaf somewhere in the established continuity is unfounded speculation, no matter how much some people want her to be part of it. - [[User:Crystal Master|Crystal Master]]<br />
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:::There are absolutely no acceptable grounds in removing all references to Leaf from the article. By removing parts from the article, you're trying to imply Leaf never existed to begin with, and for that to be true, FireRed/LeafGreen would have to have had only a male player character. Either that or there would have to have been no FireRed/LeafGreen (and if that were to be the case, there would be no HeartGold/SoulSilver either).<br />
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:::Those parts from the article you're trying to have removed in no way imply Leaf exists in HeartGold/SoulSilver; to have any area of the article imply any involvement from Leaf in HeartGold/SoulSilver, Leaf would have to be mentioned in one of the sections further below, and last I saw, there weren't any such mentions.<br />
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:::In conclusion: Leaf exists, and she always will. The fact HeartGold/SoulSilver doesn't mention her does not change that. Where Leaf is already mentioned, she should be. Where Leaf shouldn't be mentioned, she's already not. Trying to erase all traces of her existence from the article is akin to vandalism. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 23:58, 19 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
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::::Oh, ok. So you weren't saying that there was a Leaf somewhere in the HG/SS timeline. My bad.<br />
::::Anyway, correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this article about the timeline of the Pokémon world? Isn't it about making a recollection of the canonical events in the established continuity and making it the less ambiguous possible (ie: saying that "Brendan/May" became the Hoenn champion only because we don't have confirmation about which story is the canonical one, which is different from the case in FR/LG)?<br />
::::Also, I thought that the most recent games that rewrite history take priority over the older ones. In the RSE section we say that the player calmed down Groudon and Kyogre with Rayquaza's help (as depicted in Emerald), not that s/he "stopped Groudon/Kyogre" (as depicted in Ruby and Sapphire respectively), because we use the most recent rewrite of the RSE story, Emerald, as canon. Likewise, shouldn't the GS remakes, which established that Red's story happened in the timeline but Leaf's didn't, take priority over FR/LG (as HG/SS are the most recent games)?<br />
::::Edit: I'm not saying that Leaf doesn't exist. I'm saying that she doesn't exist in the continuity established by the overall timeline (if you believe HGSS or GSC), which I think this article is supposed to be about. - [[User:Crystal Master|Crystal Master]]<br />
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Perhaps instead of rewording the article to not mention Leaf, we reword the Gen III section to be ambiguous as to it's version:<br />
:"After defeating Hoenn's eight Gym Leaders and, with the help of Steven and Wallace, calming Groudon and/or Kyogre after they are awakened by Team Magma/Team Aqua, respectively, he/she...."<br />
AFAIK, Platinum's story is different from Pearl and Diamond, yet no mention of Giratina is made. Just keep the version ambiguous. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 03:07, 22 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:Drop me some drafts and I might consider it. I'd really want the text to securely take all player bases into consideration yet not allow possible relentless editing to try to make it look like one player base never existed in the canon. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 03:19, 22 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
::There's a draft right there, just replace the one sentence. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 03:24, 22 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Protection?! ==<br />
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Thanks a lot! I've been working really hard on improving this article over the last few months and now it's been protected! What is the reasoning behind this? --[[User:Taromon777|<span style="color:turquoise">'''''Taromon777'''''</span>]] <small>''</small> 20:21, 27 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:Ever think about [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=History_of_the_Pok%C3%A9mon_world&action=history checking]? '''[[Team Rocket|<small><span style="color: #550000;">R.A.</span></small>]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Hunter</font></small>]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Blade</font></small>]]''' 22:25, 27 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
::Page now unlocked as both parties in the edit war reached a truce. &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 22:27, 27 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
:::Yay, I can edit again now, thanks! Sorry if I came across a bit impolite before. --[[User:Taromon777|<span style="color:turquoise">'''''Taromon777'''''</span>]] <small>''</small> 10:24, 28 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Colosseum and XD ==<br />
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how do we know it takes place 2 years after Gen 2 and 4?--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|<span style="color:#000000">Midnight</span>]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|<span style="color:#191970">''Blue''</span>]]''' 18:33, 8 November 2009 (UTC)<br />
:Not quite. According to the page, Colosseum takes place sometime between Generation I/III and II/IV, which makes sense, and then XD ''is'' supposed to be set quite a few years from Colosseum, although I don't know how we got "two years after Gen IV" specifically. [[User:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#006400">'''Zesty'''</span>]][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#3CB371">'''Cactus'''</span>]] 19:04, 8 November 2009 (UTC)<br />
Ok, thanx. I just thought someone just put that there without proof.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|<span style="color:#000000">Midnight</span>]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|<span style="color:#191970">''Blue''</span>]]''' 19:16, 8 November 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Can anyone tell me how is it possible for Generation II and IV happened at the same time? ==<br />
Its not possible because Jasmine is in the Sinnoh Region right?--[[User:Jason avelino|Jason avelino]] 10:42, 2 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:People just say that because they believe the odd-numbered generations take place at the same time. Yet there's zero proof of even that--no timeframes are ever stated for when the games that take place in either [[Hoenn]] or [[Sinnoh]] take place. For all we know, the [[Generation III]] Hoenn games takes place five years after [[Generation II]] and the [[Generation IV]] Sinnoh games take place 10 years further down the road, and yet the technology of their respective platforms allows them to trade freely with the remakes in their generation that do take place at the same time as their originals (addtionally, in Hoenn's case, it can even freely trade with two console games that take place years apart). Besides, where was it stated that the [[red Gyarados]] in the {{2v2|Diamond|Pearl}} intro is the one from the [[Lake of Rage]]? Right, nowhere. Yet people are using such a baseless assumption as evidence of the even-numbered generations taking place at or around the same time.<br />
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:The only times timeframes between two games are ever stated are the case between [[Generation I]] and [[Generation II]] being three years apart, and {{pkmn|Colosseum}} and {{pkmn|XD: Gale of Darkness}} being five years apart. The fact that both of the latter are compatible with all handheld Generation III games just goes to show that we don't know when the Hoenn and Sinnoh games take place, and that all assumptions of them taking place at the same time as the remakes in their repsective generations are baseless and shouldn't be trusted. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 13:02, 2 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Ok thanks for answering my question...--[[User:Jason avelino|Jason avelino]] 05:35, 3 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Timeframe for Sinnoh, by the way. Rowan returned from Kanto after four years of study with Oak. Red Gyarados specials were still airing on TV. Sinnoh's either during or shortly after the story of Johto. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#DAA520">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#C0C0C0">chidna</span>]]''' 06:42, 3 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Not necessarily. The Red Gyarados report had Mount Coronet in the background. That means the Red Gyarados couldn't have been in Johto. [[User:Edge578|Edge578]] 18:46, 2 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Rayquaza from MINERALS? ==<br />
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Where the heck is this from? None of the Pokedexes mention it, and well, there aren't minerals in the ozone layer. They'd be much, much too heavy. Even if a volcano erupts and sprays ash (not minerals) into the air, it doesn't reach the ozone layer.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 21:28, 1 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Regis Created By Humans? ==<br />
Where does it say that the Regis were made by man? Or that they were made in the three eras (except for Regice)? In fact, Registeel is said to be "tens of thousands" of years old, according to the Pokedex, whereas the Iron Age was just 3,000 years ago. [[User:Plasma|Plasma]] 20:06, 9 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==Generation V==<br />
Due to the fact that Cynthia and Looker mention Lucas/Dawn in passing, it can be safely assumed that Generation V takes place around the same time as XD. [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] <sup>([[User_talk:TorchicBlaziken|talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/TorchicBlaziken|edits]])</sup> 01:11, 18 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Not necessarily. It can be assumed to take place after Platinum, but we have no idea exactly how long after. --[[User:AndyPKMN|Andy<sup>P</sup><sub>K</sub><sup>M</sup><sub>N</sub>]] 12:06, 18 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
Can we edit the Generation IV timeline by shifting the focus to Platinum's storyline rather than Diamond/Pearl with Platinum in parentheses? I believe Cynthia says something about the trainer who battled Giratina, which isn't in the DP Storyline. [[User:Pocketfanmk|Pocketfanmk]] 17:20, 13 November 2010 (UTC)<br />
:I agree with pocketfanmk, considering that Platinum is the only game all three of the trio members and that the game is more detailed in all senses. As for Generation V... That's a tough one. [[User:Smashbrother101|Smashbrother101]] 00:24, 30 November 2010 (UTC)<br />
: It's true. Because of the Gen V references we can assume that the Platinum Story is the canonical one, instead of the DP Story.line<br />
[[User:Phoenixon|Phoenixon]] 15:14, 28 February 2011 (UTC) About the time of each generation(like what he said:I-III--II-IV) is this because of the remakes of red and blue, <br />
in Gen III and gold and silver, in Gen IV?. If it is, and if they will make a remake of ruby and sapphire in Gen V, then shouldn't it be I-III-V---II-IV?<br />
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== More than one Regigigas? ==<br />
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''"Landmasses such as Mt. Coronet are created, and '''Regigigas move''' the continents, forming the regions,"''<br />
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Grammar suggests more than one, is this true or did someone make a typo?--[[User:Burgundy|<font color="yellow">Bu</font><font color="red">rg</font>]][[User talk: Burgundy|<font color="blue">un</font><font color="green">dy</font>]] 06:40, 30 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
:I don't think it is suggesting that there were more than one. But I could be wrong. :/--[[User:Han Ji-Wan|Han Ji-Wan]] 07:12, 30 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
::Well there are [[M11|multiple Regigigas]] [[DP129|in the anime]], so it may not be an error. <small><span style="color:white; background-color:blue">'''X'''</span>[[User:Vuvuzela2010|<span style="color:blue; background-color:white">'''Vuvuzela2010''']]</span><span style="color:white; background-color:blue">'''X'''</span></small> 11:17, 30 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
:::That bit seems fine, but the tense of that whole section is weird. Shouldn't it be in past tense? --[[User:Jda95|jda95]] 12:41, 30 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
::::If there is only one Regigigas, it would be "''Regigigas moves''"--[[User:Burgundy|<font color="yellow">Bu</font><font color="red">rg</font>]][[User talk: Burgundy|<font color="blue">un</font><font color="green">dy</font>]] 16:17, 30 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Basis of article ==<br />
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Is this article based on the games or the anime? --[[User:Fimbulwinter2012|<span style="color:navy">☆'''FiMbUlWiNtEr2O|2'''☆</span>]] 04:15, 28 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
:I'm assuming a combination of both.. Why? --[[User:Han Ji-Wan|Han Ji-Wan]] 04:51, 28 February 2011 (UTC)</div>Phoenixonhttps://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:History_of_the_Pok%C3%A9mon_world&diff=1375299Talk:History of the Pokémon world2011-02-28T15:14:24Z<p>Phoenixon: /* Generation V */</p>
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==Shaping this article==<br />
I think this article needs to be redesigned... "history" is a bit of a general term - there are differences between the histories in different parts on the cannon (games, anime and different manga series have contradicted each other several times in the past). We need to make rules to decide what goes in and what doesn't...--[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|ElectAbuzzzz]] 12:37, 13 April 2007 (UTC)<br />
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It may not even be possible to write such an article since there is not much historical information, not to mention a good part of it is legend. (Then again, in this world it seems legends are generally true.) - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]]<sub>[[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]]</sub> 15:17, 13 April 2007 (UTC)<br />
:I think it's more accurate to say that the Pokemon that ''appear'' in legend are true. There's no solid evidence to say that the Sinnoh Myths aren't simply that: Myth. I feel that until Nintendo officially confirms that Arceus did in fact create the Universe, or any other legend, such as Regigigas moving the continents, we should treat them purely as myth and/or theory, and not include them with articles dealing with fact, such as this Timeline.--[[User:Dual|Dual]] 03:11, 15 August 2007 (UTC)<br />
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The timeline must have another sub article--[[User:Joshuamanimtim2|Snorlax]] 10:30, 1 May 2007 (UTC)<br />
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Should the spinoff games (Colosseum, XD, Ranger, Snap...) fit in anywhere? There's not a lot of evidence linking those to the handheld games... is there any way to put them in? --[[User:Kayube|Kayube]] 04:09, 17 June 2007 (UTC)<br />
:I doubt it. There is no indication that any events in the non-handheld games are canon to the basic storyline, so there's no real point to including it here. On another note, it's my personal opinion that this needs to be moved to a different article, because there isn't much of the history that has been confirmed; most of it, as has been mentioned, is legend and theory. Regardless, I'm going to try to clean this up a bit and Wikify it some. [[User:Vekter|Vekter]] 15:40, 15 April 2008 (UTC)<br />
::Well, the Pokemon Ranger games seem to actually reference events from the games (and also is the reason why {{p|Manaphy}} even exists in the main games.) If we aren't going to count the Ranger games are canon to the basic storyline, then we shouldn't count Manaphy as canon, either, since that's the only EVENT pokemon in the main series that debuted in a side game/spinoff game rather than in the main game series. Besides, since we can't transfer any prior gen pokemon onto the R/S/E/FR/LG game packs, Pokemon Colosseum is currently the only legit way to even ACQUIRE Celebi (though this is only in the Japanese version), and it (as well as it's sequel, Gale of darkness) is also the only OTHER legit way to acquire Ho-Oh and Lugia if you didn't get the Mystic tickets in the Emerald/FR/LG versions. now, for games like Mystery dungeon, yes, those SHOULDN'T be counted as canon in there, since that's an Alt universe. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 13:04, 11 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::What should NOT be considered canon is all this fan-made BS about Pokemon populations decreasing, when the unobtainables came into being, how Doduo/Dodrio came to have multiple heads, etc. -- [[User:Umbee|Umbee]] 22:01, 2 October 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::Do you think the "Contemporary History" should be moved to a new article called "Timeline of events in the games"? This article is supposed to be about how the Pokémon Universe developed, not what happened in it afterwards.<br />
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== Can anyone state where it was said that the S.S. Tidal was created in the 1990s? ==<br />
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I need to know because the article said it was created in that time period, and yet I don't really recall the games even stating that it was created in the 1990s (In fact, I don't even recall it even mentioning the date of when it was created at all).<br />
:Don't forget to sign your comment with four tildes <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. On to the subject i agree there is no mention of when it was built nor is there mention of its age and assume its age from the release date. So Any suggestions on what to do with it? [[User:Pterodactal|Pterodactal]] 07:00, 16 September 2007 (UTC)<br />
::I seem to recall the ship was under construction during the journey portion of [[Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire|R/S/]][[Pokémon Emerald|E]]. [[User:Bardock|Bar]][[User_Talk:Bardock|dock]] 12:33, 27 January 2009 (UTC)<br />
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I created it. Sorry. But we could leave it as it is. [[User:Joshuamanimtim2|K.J.Boring]] 11:31, 15 September 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Generation III ==<br />
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It should be sometime BEFORE Generation II and AFTER Generation I because Generation II states that STEEL is a NEWLY discovered type, and Generation III has steel types...[[Image:Ani475MS.gif]] <sc>'''[[User:Optimus35|<span style="color:#000033">A</span><span style="color:#003366">g</span><span style="color:#215670">e</span><span style="color:#006699">n</span><span style="color:#2D6E89">t</span>]] [[User talk:Optimus35|<span style="color:#0066CC">#</span><span style="color:#3D81EE">4</span><span style="color:#66B5FF">4</span><span style="color:#99C9FF">8</span>]]'''</sc> <sup><sc><span class="plainlinks">[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?limit=50&title=Special%3AContributions&contribs=user&target=Optimus35&namespace=0&year=&month=-1 <span style="color:#000000;">☆</span>] | [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZPMmUEHFIU <span style="color:#FF0000;">♥</span>]</span></sc></sup>[[Image:Ani282MS.gif]][[Image:SpriteOptimus35.PNG|This will put you off eating for life!]] 12:30, 23 November 2007 (UTC)<br />
:Here's how the Generations go in chronological order (This isn't merely fanon, it is supported by evidence from the various canons.)<br />
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Generation I&rarr;Generation III&rarr;&rarr;&rarr;Generation II&rarr;Generation IV<br />
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&rarr;=short time in betweeen<br>&rarr;&rarr;&rarr;=long time in between<br />
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:: This really puzzles me - I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just confused by this: how exactly are Generations in that order? I don't even understand how Generations I and II could have their timelines connected with III and IV... Ie: what is the canonical proof for this? (not because I'd doubt it - rather I'd love to know it, please) [[User:Sipulichu|Sipulichu]] 20:51, 31 July 2008 (UTC)<br />
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:I don't think that Steel is newly DISCOVERED type. It's just newly classified type out of those we actually had (the Steel Pokémon could be identified as Rock Pokémon before). The text in game may be mistranslated, since American Pokémon media loves to give us a shit about "new" Pokémon. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 13:26, 23 November 2007 (UTC)<br />
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== Moon Stone ==<br />
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What about "The Moon Stone"?<br />
Of [[EP006|Clefairy and the Moon Stone]]:<br />
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"Seymour theorizes this is because both '''the Pokémon came from outer space''', and '''the Moon Stone was their spacecraft''' - which means the Stone belongs to the Pokémon, and the humans must leave it alone."<br />
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That was only in the animé. As far as I know, the whole "Pokémon came from outer-space" thing was never mentioned in any game.--[[User:Pokencyclopedia|Pokencyclopedia]] 23:59, 2 January 2008 (UTC)<br />
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Except for MAYBE Deoxys and the Clefairy family<br />
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How about Jirachi? Comet=Outer Space --'''[[User:Theryguy512|<span style="color:#FF7F00">Theryguy</span>]][[User talk:Theryguy512|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">5</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">1</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">2</span>]]''' 18:52, 13 January 2008 (UTC)<br />
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thanks for pointing him out, Theryguy512.<br />
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IIRC there is an NPC in the Space Center that mentions the theory in Generation III. I believe I've also seen this mentioned in other games, though I may be mistaken. [[User:Vekter|Vekter]] 15:43, 15 April 2008 (UTC)<br />
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:Lunatone and Solrock appearantly came from outer space as well. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|<font color="midnightblue" face="comic sans ms">'''$aturn'''</font>]][[User:SaturnYoshi|<font color="green" face="comic sans ms">'''¥oshi'''</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:SaturnYoshi|<font color="maroon">THE VOICES</font>]]</sup> 14:40, 6 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Where did the bird trio go? Sinnoh. ==<br />
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Look at this, the legendary bird trio ( Articuno, Zapdos, Moltres ) is revealed to roam Sinnoh in Pokémon Platnum. These three, are missing in the GSC games (they can't be found in Kanto). So, they might have flown to Sinnoh. [[User:Joshuamanimtim2|K.J.Boring]] 04:55, 14 September 2008 (UTC)<br />
:Maybe if someone actually says that in-game. Otherwise, it's speculation.--[[User:Urutapu|Loveはドコ?]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] <small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 05:03, 14 September 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::No one says that those are the same birds though. The Frontier brains afterall have legendary birds aswell.<br />
Forgot to sign name--[[User:Outrage DD|Outrage DD]] 23:26, 3 October 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::In the anime as well, it's shown that there are multiple versions of legendaries (even in the same frame, a mother and baby Lugia come to mind). ←{'''[[User:Berrymaster|<font color="purple">Berr</font><font color="blue">yma</font><font color="green">ster</font>]]|[[User_talk:Berrymaster|<font color="gold">Talk</font>]]|[[Special:Contributions/Berrymaster|<font color="silver">Contrib</font>]]'''}→ 23:28, 3 October 2008 (UTC)<br />
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==Clean-Up, Please?==<br />
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Going through this article, all I see is fan speculation and unusual conclusions. I for one would like to see some evidence of these claims, as many of them see totally made-up. For example: What connection to Kyogre and Manaphy have? And "herds" of Latios and Latias? As far as I remember, it's one for each player. I wouldn't say there were "herds" of Mewtwo, would you? <br />
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:Actually, the "Herds" of Latios and Latias was stated in the Pokedex Entries of Latios and Latias. Don't believe me? Try looking at the pokedex portion of their article. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 03:12, 27 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
::[[Kyogre]] and [[Manaphy]] were both in Ranger of The Sea Temple ( i think thats what it was called)[[User:DCM|<font color="#FF1111">DCM</font>]]<sub>[[User talk:DCM|((<font color="#DAA520">Shut the **** up</font>]]</sub><sub>[[Special:Contributions/DCM|<font color="#C0C0C0">Spy on My Edits</font>))]]</sub><br />
::Mewtwo is the only successful clone (attempted by humans) of a Pokémon as far as we know. And we're 100% certain that he's the only Mewtwo out there. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 03:25, 27 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
::And in the case of the games, it's also the only cloned pokemon, Period [even then, lab notes hinted that it wasn't even a clone {the whole "Mew Gave Birth" thing comes to mind}.] [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 00:17, 29 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
:: Okay, okay, but I still think these should be referenced in the article. It is still true that most of the article is mere specualtion, however. [[User:Me, Hurray!|Me, Hurray!]] 04:32, 27 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::Actually, I doubt that half of it is speculation. Most of it is from the games. Yeah, some of it is guessing for the dates, but that is why they have a large number of years separating the different sections, as the games don't give specific dates, except for that Arceus created the Pokémon universe. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 17:15, 27 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::: Because everything mentioned in the games is meant to be taken literally. Yes. I see it now. Silly me.[[User:Me, Hurray!|Me, Hurray!]] 20:41, 27 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
Sorry. I didn't mean for it to seem like that. When things are typed, they always sound different in the mind of somebody else. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 00:16, 29 November 2008 (UTC)<br />
:: I'm sorry, I strayed away from the point. My only problem is that there is no evidence and there are no citations in the artical. It's alright pointing things out here in the talk page, but if there's no evidence in the artical itself then I don't think it meets certain standards. I'm really just requesting evidence.<br />
:::We can't really cite the games, which is why there aren't any citations at the moment. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 21:22, 2 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::You can ''sorta'' cite the games. Who to talk to and where to see what's said. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:14, 7 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::True. But I think the citing that Me, Hurray is talking about is links and stuff. Or at least very specific descriptions of where they come from. Links we can't do for games, but yeah, I guess it would take some time, but we could find all of the people who tell us the random info. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 04:20, 7 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::: Mentioning who gives the information in-game sounds like a satasfactory measure to me. at least then the information can be varified and proven correct. [[User:Me, Hurray!|Me, Hurray!]] 16:46, 8 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
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==Rotom==<br />
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it is never said that Rotom was made in the 70's, infact I taught [[Pluto]] discovered it in the 50's, so I think we should leave it blank until Platinum's out in english [[User:Ultamatecharizard|<span style="background:#000000; color:#FF0000;">Ultamate</span>]][[User Talk:Ultamatecharizard|<sub><font color="#FF5A00">Charizard</font></sub>]] 16:49, 8 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
:I only knew he discovered it. In his youth. I didn't know there was a date involved. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 22:25, 8 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
::I still don't get who put that in, I mean it would be diffrent it was ever said but I looked Rotom's page and it didn't say anything [[User:Ultamatecharizard|<span style="background:#000000; color:#FF0000;">Ultamate</span>]][[User Talk:Ultamatecharizard|<sub><font color="#FF5A00">Charizard</font></sub>]]<br />
:::All you have to do is go through the editing history. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 20:31, 16 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
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==Multiple Mew!?==<br />
Alright, who said that Mew were plentiful soon after the creation of the Pokémon world? And how does anyone know that [[Mew (Lucario and the Mystery of Mew)|this Mew]] is different from [[Mew (Mewtwo Strikes Back)|that Mew]]? It could just be a different voice actor. [[User:Palkiajosh|パルキアJosh]] 23:23, 9 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
*Ok, about the reason why Mew from Mewtwo Strikes Back being different from the Mew from Lucario and the Mystery of Mew, it's for a couple of reasons. Yes, the voice doesn't necessarily mean much, however, MSB's Mew's Japanese VA was definitely in the 8th Movie as he (she? I don't really know the VA's gender) was the one who voiced Sir Aaron in that Movie. I mean, why would they give Mew a different VA (assuming that it IS the same one) if it's original VA is still very much available? Plus, the one from Movie 1 was very far from Kanto, and If this were the same mew, it would spend most of it's time inside of a Lake/Jungle than in a deciduous forest with a [[Tree of Beginning|Tree-like Rock formation]], not to mention that MSB's Mew lives a considerably far distance from Kanto, or heck, any of the regions that have been seen thus far, while LatMoM's Mew was located, if not in Kanto, then just barely beyond the border. As for the multiple parts, I'm guessing the fossilized remains of a Mew, as well as it being a genetic ancestor to every pokemon seems to answer that question.) [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 23:36, 9 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
Don't forget that the first Mew was seen to be sleeping underwater, possibly for a long time, untill Mewtwo unleashed his power on the world, creating storms and kidnapping the Nurse Joy of the city. The most recent Mew, was seen to have been connected to the Tree of Beginning, so it should be assumed Mew can't be away from it for long periods of time (longer than seen in the movie). And it and the Tree are so closely connected, when Mew would be damaged in the first movie, the Tree would also sustain damage. And the first Mew is also living in the Johto area, not Kanto. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 21:54, 10 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
Mew is the ancestor of all life. A being cannot breed with itself. Thus-multiple Mews-Mtn_Otter<br />
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== Lugia did what? ==<br />
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Who ever said Lugia actually created the 3 birds? just because it's the master trio doesn't mean it created them. --'''[[User:InuMimi|<span style="color:#CC99CC">いぬ</span>]][[User talk:InuMimi|<span style="color:#CCCCCC">みみ</span>]]''' 23:42, 16 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
:Well........now thats up to interpretation. I say no[[User:DCM|<font color="#FF1111">DCM</font>]]<sub>[[User talk:DCM|((<font color="#DAA520">曲奇饼妖怪</font>]]</sub><sub>[[Special:Contributions/DCM|<font color="#C0C0C0">Spy on My Edits</font>))]]</sub><br />
::I agree. It doesn't say anywhere that he created them. It just says that a Lugia has the power to destroy (Pokédex entries) or save the world (movie), depending on the situation. It only has control over the birds and their powers, and I think they only obey him out of respect for a higher being. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 16:13, 18 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Cleanup! ==<br />
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This article is really very well done as it sums up everything so those supposed continuity errors are straingtened out (such as the "Which came first? Arceus or Mew?" paradox). But I really think it needs a cleanup. All it has are random dot points on Pokemon that aren't related. Clean it up!<br />
Also, fan assumptions should be excluded! It's annoying to see speculation assumed as fact. [[User:Bttsstewart|Bttsstewart]] 15:30, 18 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
:Well, we've been trying to do that for a while. And if you want it cleaned up, then don't just tell people to do it. You need to do something too. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 16:10, 18 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
::There really isn't a paradox concerning Arceus and Mew. It is ''believed'' (according to Dex entries) that Mew is the ancestor of Pokémon, but it clearly states in the DPPt origin story that Arceus was born before every other Pokémon (before the universem even). Arceus created Mew, ta-dah! And like [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] said, you can't just tell people to do things you want done. [[User:LordArceus|<span style="color:#FF0000">'''Lord'''</span>]][[User talk:LordArceus|<span style="color:#FF0000">'''Arc'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/LordArceus|<span style="color:#FF0000">'''eus'''</span>]] 16:12, 18 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
I've had an interesting theory, which could solve the Arceus/Mew paradox. Arceus may have created the universe, but what if Mew came around before the universe was created, and Arceus sort of descended from it? Also, Mew is the ANSCESTOR of all Pokémon, not necassarily their creator. So if Arceus created Dialga and Palkia and the Lake Trio, then they are still anscestors of Mew, because Arceus is.<br />
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Please remember to sign comments. I realise that there's no Mew/Arceus paradox, not really. I just mean this article can definitively solve the arguing. (I've seen A LOT of arguing on the subject.) [[User:Bttsstewart|Bttsstewart]] 14:33, 14 January 2009 (UTC)<br />
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To answer above from Rocket Admin Hunter Blade & LordArceus): I didn't think I was 'qualified' enough to contribute to the cleanup. I though you sort of had to be in the webiste 'inner ring'. Haha. I guess that's silly. I've just had a look and I think it's fine as it is. It's just the allignment of the dot points that's a little dodgy. [[User:Bttsstewart|Bttsstewart]] 14:42, 14 January 2009 (UTC)<br />
:The only "qualification" you need, is the ability to not get carried away and screw everything up. Other than that, you should be able to do a lot, such as grammar mistakes, spelling, punctuation, and moving text to the correct sections. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 22:11, 14 January 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Celebi, Jirachi and Shaymin ==<br />
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Where did the "theory" come around supposing that Celebi, Jirachi and Shaymin were all born at the same time, and after the invention of the Unown writing system? There's no evidence to support this, so why even include it? [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 22:55, 23 January 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Pictures ==<br />
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I think it would improve this article a great deal of some pictures were included. It would give people more of an idea of what they were reading about. If anyone has any pictures of ancient Sinnoh region tapestries, or anything similar, be sure to add it to the article! [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 22:55, 23 January 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Kyogre Problem ==<br />
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How could Kyogre have expanded the sea with the help of Manaphy and Lugia when it went to sleep millions of years before, and wasn't woken up again until the events of Generation III? I think that, considering the fact that the Pokémon world is very similar to our own, the sea was probably created the same way that Earth's sea was, and that the theory of it being created by Pokémon is simply a legend. There is definately no archaelogical evidence that it was expanded by Pokémon! Maybe, until we are certain, we shouldn't mention how the sea was created like it is fact. [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 22:55, 23 January 2009 (UTC)<br />
:Please sign your edits. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 19:39, 23 December 2008 (UTC)<br />
::This is all based off Dex entries and such. Kyogre created the oceans, not Manaphy or Lugia[[User:DCM|<font color="#FF1111">DCM</font>]]<sub>[[User talk:DCM|((<font color="#DAA520">曲奇饼妖怪</font>]]</sub><sub>[[Special:Contributions/DCM|<font color="#C0C0C0">Spy on My Edits</font>))]]</sub><br />
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==Writing System==<br />
The article claims that the first writing system was created 1500 years before Generation 1. If this is based on present time, the first writing system was created in 500 AD. I haven't done any research yet, but I'm just noting that in our world, writing was created in about 2500 BC (Egyptians). This would be 4500 years before the present. [[User:Firemaker|Firemaker]] 23:29, 3 January 2009 (UTC)<br />
Also the information about the pokemon (Mamoswine, Farfetch'd, Magikarp); is that true? [[User:Firemaker|Firemaker]] 23:29, 3 January 2009 (UTC)<br />
:Writing first came about around 3400-3000 BC. It's still disputed wether Egypt or Mesopotamia had the oldest writing system. And for your second question, yes. Mamoswine are based off of woolly mammoths, so their history is almost the same as in our world. Farfetch'd have been mentioned somewhere, for their history, but I can't remember. And then Magikarp are the easiest. Many of their TCG Pokédex info boxes talk about it. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 23:48, 5 January 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Gigas? ==<br />
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Didn't IT make the three, not humans? '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:16, 1 May 2009 (UTC)<br />
:It says that? I haven't been paying attention then... They came around naturally, so nobody really created them, not even Regigigas. Although Platinum DOES say he did, the problem is that the Pt. Dex entry goes against what the Gen. III Dex entries say. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 18:48, 1 May 2009 (UTC)<br />
::I think it says in the Gen III Pokédex entries that humans created the first three Regis. Regigigas, on the other hand, came into being naturally, and helped to shape the continents. That's what I always though anyway. [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 19:55, 29 May 2009 (UTC)<br />
:::I read that Gigas did the continents, but it became too strong so humans made the Regis and used them as keys to seal it away. Of course, that may have come from this site.... &mdash; <small>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<font color="#0000C8">THE TROM</font></small>]] &mdash; 08:23, 30 May 2009 (UTC)<br />
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::::That's the thing... most of the stuff on Bulba is from other things here... but in this case, it's hard to decide. Because how can it control the Regis if they were made by humans? Either mind control because they're so similar, or the humans made three original Regis, and then Gigas made more. '''[[Team Rocket|<small><span style="color: #550000;">R.A.</span></small>]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Hunter</font></small>]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Blade</font></small>]]''' 23:16, 30 May 2009 (UTC)<br />
:::I'm not seeing where in the Gen III Pokedex entries it says that humans created them... Registeel and Regirock's say that humans sealed them away, but have nothing that I can see about humans creating them. Unless I am misreading horribly, that part of the timeline needs to be changed. - [[User:C.Olimar788|C.Olimar788]] 21:52, 2 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::The Pokedexes definitely don't say that humans made the Regi.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 21:26, 1 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Prehistory and Recent History ==<br />
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I personally think this article needs to be either fixed up, deleted, or at least protected, especially the Prehistory and Recent History sections. I mean, at least part of those sections are true, but the rest of it is rubbish. Who ever said the Regis were made in their respective ages? Part of it has nothing to do with Pokémon: why is Apollo 11 even in here? I just want your opinion. [[User:Leafstorm151|Leafstorm151]] 18:26, 6 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:Because. The Pokémon world has some things tied in with ours. And in the Gen I games and their remakes, a guy talks about buying a color TV just to see Neil Armstrong land on the moon. And the Regis is most likely speculation, but at the same time not. '''[[Team Rocket|<small><span style="color: #550000;">R.A.</span></small>]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Hunter</font></small>]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Blade</font></small>]]''' 19:02, 6 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
::Regis were made by Gigas then Gigas was sealed and the Regis got exported to Hoenn to keep them away. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#DAA520">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#C0C0C0">chidna</span>]]''' 00:50, 7 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== What about Damos? ==<br />
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It is stated that {{p|Arceus}} "FIRST" fall into never ending sleep BEFORE the first humans appeared ehh...but in the case of Movie12 Arceus meets Damos, a human, what about that?.....I mean that the first humans appeared after Arceus fall into never ending sleep then....i think we should change that section..."[[Sceptile (Pokémon)|☆]][[User:AngelGuardian|<span style="color: #6890F0;">Angel</span>]][[User talk:AngelGuardian|<span style="color: #C0C0C0;">Guardian</span>]][[Brendan (game)|☆]]" 07:33, 8 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
:Speculation=no. Until we see movie 12 nothing gets added.--[[User:RexRacer|'''<font color="#E7CE6B">Rex</font>]][[User talk:RexRacer|<font color="#42528C ">Racer</font>''']] 07:35, 8 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
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So you mean that whole story of Movie12, of Damos or whatever happens was all because of manga? i mean you get all the information on manga?"[[Sceptile (Pokémon)|☆]][[User:AngelGuardian|<span style="color: #6890F0;">Angel</span>]][[User talk:AngelGuardian|<span style="color: #C0C0C0;">Guardian</span>]][[Brendan (game)|☆]]" 07:40, 8 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
:Until Movie 12 gets released there can still be doubts. Just wait. I'm sure everything will be explained in time. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#DAA520">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#C0C0C0">chidna</span>]]''' 07:44, 8 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
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Arceus, as the creator of the space-time continuum, could logically travel through time in a manner similar it Celibi or Dialga. Also Arceus may have created clones of itself to manage the world while it is asleep.-Mtn_otter<br />
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== Whats with the Humans land on the moon ==<br />
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Is this Just for fun, because it has no relation with pokemon at all... ---> [[User:223david|<span style="color:#D42E2E;">'''223'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/223david|<span style="color:#B69E00;">☆</span>]][[User talk:223david|<span style="color:#2E2ED4;">'''Dåv]d'''</span>]]''' 12:29, 10 August 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:If you've EVER played R/B/Y, or FRLG, you'd know. An old guy in the [[Pewter Museum of Science]] mentions getting a color TV just for that moment. '''[[Team Rocket|<small><span style="color: #550000;">R.A.</span></small>]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Hunter</font></small>]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Blade</font></small>]]''' 16:24, 10 August 2009 (UTC)<br />
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::oh.... never played anything other than gen 4 :P ---> [[User:223david|<span style="color:#D42E2E;">'''223'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/223david|<span style="color:#B69E00;">☆</span>]][[User talk:223david|<span style="color:#2E2ED4;">'''Dåv]d'''</span>]]''' 02:30, 11 August 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:::Well then, now you know. '''[[Team Rocket|<small><span style="color: #550000;">R.A.</span></small>]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Hunter</font></small>]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Blade</font></small>]]''' 02:31, 11 August 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Pictures! ==<br />
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I just added some pictures to the article, relevant to each era in the history of the Pokémon World. It makes it look a lot more interesting, don't you think? [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 17:58, 14 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Leaf ==<br />
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Shouldn't we remove Leaf from the article? HG/SS proves that Red's story is the canon one, and Leaf doesn't exist in Red's continuity because she never appeared during his quest. - [[User:Crystal Master|Crystal Master]]<br />
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:Absolutely not, unless we also remove {{ga|Kris}} due to non-interaction with {{ga|Gold}} in {{v2|Crystal}}. And we're not removing Kris. Just because Leaf doesn't appear in {{2v2|HeartGold|SoulSilver}} doesn't mean we should treat Leaf as if she never existed. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 20:04, 19 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
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::I left Kris there just in case that for whatever reason you consider Pokémon Crystal to be canon rather than the remakes (which would still mean the Leaf isn't part of continuity).<br />
::And even if you're going to assume that Leaf existed somewhere, the article is still wrong because she can't have had the same story she had in FR/LG. That would mean that both Red and Leaf had the same mom, the same house, the same rival and the same events within the same continuity, which makes no sense. If she was part of continuity, she would have a different role from Red's, like May and Dawn had in Brendan and Lucas' respective stories. Moreover, the article states that she defeated Green/Blue in the Pokémon League and became the new champion, which can't have happened, considering that Blue/Green states in HG/SS that the trainer who defeated him shortly after he became champion was Red, not Leaf.<br />
::Lastly, the article should be about writing what we know that happened, not what might have happened. We know that Red's story is canon and Leaf's isn't, as they can't both happen in the same continuity. Therefore, we know that Leaf never appeared in continuity. That there's a Leaf somewhere in the established continuity is unfounded speculation, no matter how much some people want her to be part of it. - [[User:Crystal Master|Crystal Master]]<br />
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:::There are absolutely no acceptable grounds in removing all references to Leaf from the article. By removing parts from the article, you're trying to imply Leaf never existed to begin with, and for that to be true, FireRed/LeafGreen would have to have had only a male player character. Either that or there would have to have been no FireRed/LeafGreen (and if that were to be the case, there would be no HeartGold/SoulSilver either).<br />
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:::Those parts from the article you're trying to have removed in no way imply Leaf exists in HeartGold/SoulSilver; to have any area of the article imply any involvement from Leaf in HeartGold/SoulSilver, Leaf would have to be mentioned in one of the sections further below, and last I saw, there weren't any such mentions.<br />
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:::In conclusion: Leaf exists, and she always will. The fact HeartGold/SoulSilver doesn't mention her does not change that. Where Leaf is already mentioned, she should be. Where Leaf shouldn't be mentioned, she's already not. Trying to erase all traces of her existence from the article is akin to vandalism. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 23:58, 19 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
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::::Oh, ok. So you weren't saying that there was a Leaf somewhere in the HG/SS timeline. My bad.<br />
::::Anyway, correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this article about the timeline of the Pokémon world? Isn't it about making a recollection of the canonical events in the established continuity and making it the less ambiguous possible (ie: saying that "Brendan/May" became the Hoenn champion only because we don't have confirmation about which story is the canonical one, which is different from the case in FR/LG)?<br />
::::Also, I thought that the most recent games that rewrite history take priority over the older ones. In the RSE section we say that the player calmed down Groudon and Kyogre with Rayquaza's help (as depicted in Emerald), not that s/he "stopped Groudon/Kyogre" (as depicted in Ruby and Sapphire respectively), because we use the most recent rewrite of the RSE story, Emerald, as canon. Likewise, shouldn't the GS remakes, which established that Red's story happened in the timeline but Leaf's didn't, take priority over FR/LG (as HG/SS are the most recent games)?<br />
::::Edit: I'm not saying that Leaf doesn't exist. I'm saying that she doesn't exist in the continuity established by the overall timeline (if you believe HGSS or GSC), which I think this article is supposed to be about. - [[User:Crystal Master|Crystal Master]]<br />
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Perhaps instead of rewording the article to not mention Leaf, we reword the Gen III section to be ambiguous as to it's version:<br />
:"After defeating Hoenn's eight Gym Leaders and, with the help of Steven and Wallace, calming Groudon and/or Kyogre after they are awakened by Team Magma/Team Aqua, respectively, he/she...."<br />
AFAIK, Platinum's story is different from Pearl and Diamond, yet no mention of Giratina is made. Just keep the version ambiguous. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 03:07, 22 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:Drop me some drafts and I might consider it. I'd really want the text to securely take all player bases into consideration yet not allow possible relentless editing to try to make it look like one player base never existed in the canon. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 03:19, 22 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
::There's a draft right there, just replace the one sentence. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 03:24, 22 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Protection?! ==<br />
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Thanks a lot! I've been working really hard on improving this article over the last few months and now it's been protected! What is the reasoning behind this? --[[User:Taromon777|<span style="color:turquoise">'''''Taromon777'''''</span>]] <small>''</small> 20:21, 27 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:Ever think about [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=History_of_the_Pok%C3%A9mon_world&action=history checking]? '''[[Team Rocket|<small><span style="color: #550000;">R.A.</span></small>]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Hunter</font></small>]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Blade</font></small>]]''' 22:25, 27 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
::Page now unlocked as both parties in the edit war reached a truce. &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 22:27, 27 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
:::Yay, I can edit again now, thanks! Sorry if I came across a bit impolite before. --[[User:Taromon777|<span style="color:turquoise">'''''Taromon777'''''</span>]] <small>''</small> 10:24, 28 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Colosseum and XD ==<br />
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how do we know it takes place 2 years after Gen 2 and 4?--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|<span style="color:#000000">Midnight</span>]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|<span style="color:#191970">''Blue''</span>]]''' 18:33, 8 November 2009 (UTC)<br />
:Not quite. According to the page, Colosseum takes place sometime between Generation I/III and II/IV, which makes sense, and then XD ''is'' supposed to be set quite a few years from Colosseum, although I don't know how we got "two years after Gen IV" specifically. [[User:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#006400">'''Zesty'''</span>]][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#3CB371">'''Cactus'''</span>]] 19:04, 8 November 2009 (UTC)<br />
Ok, thanx. I just thought someone just put that there without proof.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|<span style="color:#000000">Midnight</span>]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|<span style="color:#191970">''Blue''</span>]]''' 19:16, 8 November 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Can anyone tell me how is it possible for Generation II and IV happened at the same time? ==<br />
Its not possible because Jasmine is in the Sinnoh Region right?--[[User:Jason avelino|Jason avelino]] 10:42, 2 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:People just say that because they believe the odd-numbered generations take place at the same time. Yet there's zero proof of even that--no timeframes are ever stated for when the games that take place in either [[Hoenn]] or [[Sinnoh]] take place. For all we know, the [[Generation III]] Hoenn games takes place five years after [[Generation II]] and the [[Generation IV]] Sinnoh games take place 10 years further down the road, and yet the technology of their respective platforms allows them to trade freely with the remakes in their generation that do take place at the same time as their originals (addtionally, in Hoenn's case, it can even freely trade with two console games that take place years apart). Besides, where was it stated that the [[red Gyarados]] in the {{2v2|Diamond|Pearl}} intro is the one from the [[Lake of Rage]]? Right, nowhere. Yet people are using such a baseless assumption as evidence of the even-numbered generations taking place at or around the same time.<br />
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:The only times timeframes between two games are ever stated are the case between [[Generation I]] and [[Generation II]] being three years apart, and {{pkmn|Colosseum}} and {{pkmn|XD: Gale of Darkness}} being five years apart. The fact that both of the latter are compatible with all handheld Generation III games just goes to show that we don't know when the Hoenn and Sinnoh games take place, and that all assumptions of them taking place at the same time as the remakes in their repsective generations are baseless and shouldn't be trusted. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 13:02, 2 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Ok thanks for answering my question...--[[User:Jason avelino|Jason avelino]] 05:35, 3 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Timeframe for Sinnoh, by the way. Rowan returned from Kanto after four years of study with Oak. Red Gyarados specials were still airing on TV. Sinnoh's either during or shortly after the story of Johto. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#DAA520">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#C0C0C0">chidna</span>]]''' 06:42, 3 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Not necessarily. The Red Gyarados report had Mount Coronet in the background. That means the Red Gyarados couldn't have been in Johto. [[User:Edge578|Edge578]] 18:46, 2 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Rayquaza from MINERALS? ==<br />
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Where the heck is this from? None of the Pokedexes mention it, and well, there aren't minerals in the ozone layer. They'd be much, much too heavy. Even if a volcano erupts and sprays ash (not minerals) into the air, it doesn't reach the ozone layer.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 21:28, 1 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Regis Created By Humans? ==<br />
Where does it say that the Regis were made by man? Or that they were made in the three eras (except for Regice)? In fact, Registeel is said to be "tens of thousands" of years old, according to the Pokedex, whereas the Iron Age was just 3,000 years ago. [[User:Plasma|Plasma]] 20:06, 9 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==Generation V==<br />
Due to the fact that Cynthia and Looker mention Lucas/Dawn in passing, it can be safely assumed that Generation V takes place around the same time as XD. [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] <sup>([[User_talk:TorchicBlaziken|talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/TorchicBlaziken|edits]])</sup> 01:11, 18 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Not necessarily. It can be assumed to take place after Platinum, but we have no idea exactly how long after. --[[User:AndyPKMN|Andy<sup>P</sup><sub>K</sub><sup>M</sup><sub>N</sub>]] 12:06, 18 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
Can we edit the Generation IV timeline by shifting the focus to Platinum's storyline rather than Diamond/Pearl with Platinum in parentheses? I believe Cynthia says something about the trainer who battled Giratina, which isn't in the DP Storyline. [[User:Pocketfanmk|Pocketfanmk]] 17:20, 13 November 2010 (UTC)<br />
:I agree with pocketfanmk, considering that Platinum is the only game all three of the trio members and that the game is more detailed in all senses. As for Generation V... That's a tough one. [[User:Smashbrother101|Smashbrother101]] 00:24, 30 November 2010 (UTC)<br />
: It's true. Because of the Gen V references we can assume that the Platinum Story is the canonical one, instead of the DP Story.line<br />
[[User:Phoenixon|Phoenixon]] 15:14, 28 February 2011 (UTC) About the time of each generation(like what he said:I-III--II-IV) is this because of the remakes of red and blue, in Gen III and gold and silver, in Gen IV?. If it is, and if they will make a remake of ruby and sapphire in Gen V, then shouldn't it be I-III-V---II-IV?<br />
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== More than one Regigigas? ==<br />
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''"Landmasses such as Mt. Coronet are created, and '''Regigigas move''' the continents, forming the regions,"''<br />
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Grammar suggests more than one, is this true or did someone make a typo?--[[User:Burgundy|<font color="yellow">Bu</font><font color="red">rg</font>]][[User talk: Burgundy|<font color="blue">un</font><font color="green">dy</font>]] 06:40, 30 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
:I don't think it is suggesting that there were more than one. But I could be wrong. :/--[[User:Han Ji-Wan|Han Ji-Wan]] 07:12, 30 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
::Well there are [[M11|multiple Regigigas]] [[DP129|in the anime]], so it may not be an error. <small><span style="color:white; background-color:blue">'''X'''</span>[[User:Vuvuzela2010|<span style="color:blue; background-color:white">'''Vuvuzela2010''']]</span><span style="color:white; background-color:blue">'''X'''</span></small> 11:17, 30 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
:::That bit seems fine, but the tense of that whole section is weird. Shouldn't it be in past tense? --[[User:Jda95|jda95]] 12:41, 30 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
::::If there is only one Regigigas, it would be "''Regigigas moves''"--[[User:Burgundy|<font color="yellow">Bu</font><font color="red">rg</font>]][[User talk: Burgundy|<font color="blue">un</font><font color="green">dy</font>]] 16:17, 30 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Basis of article ==<br />
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Is this article based on the games or the anime? --[[User:Fimbulwinter2012|<span style="color:navy">☆'''FiMbUlWiNtEr2O|2'''☆</span>]] 04:15, 28 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
:I'm assuming a combination of both.. Why? --[[User:Han Ji-Wan|Han Ji-Wan]] 04:51, 28 February 2011 (UTC)</div>Phoenixon