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Talk:Razor Leaf (move)

2010-02-09T14:03:55Z

Tomas: /* physical */

==Sudowoodo?==
Should Brock's Sudowoodo be mentioned here? It can only use Razor Leaf if it Mimic'd it previously in the battle! [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] 19:15, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

:Let's just remove the picture, but not from the list. After all, it ''did'' use it.. just not as an actual attack. [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 19:17, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Sounds good to me. [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] 19:19, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

:Why remove the picture??? It shows how it does the move! [[Image:Ani234MS.gif]][[User:Theryguy512|MERRY]] [[Image:Ani385MS.gif]] [[User talk:Theryguy512|CHRISTMAS]][[Image:Ani225MS.gif]] 00:06, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

:::...because we don't need 2398249274374 pictures on the same page, showing the same effect. [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 00:09, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

::::Well, people may think that it comes out of Sudowood's hands or something. [[Image:Ani234MS.gif]][[User:Theryguy512|MERRY]] [[Image:Ani385MS.gif]] [[User talk:Theryguy512|CHRISTMAS]][[Image:Ani225MS.gif]] 01:30, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

:...do people really want to know? o_o Like, so badly that they sign up and complain? Think about it. [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 01:50, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

== Other Languages ==
I saw in this article Spanish and Latin America Spanish (anime)... And then I wonder: There are no official Portuguese games, and all names listed in Portuguese are from the anime. Should we add "(anime)" after Portuguese or no need? [[User:Diby esp|Gabriel Rocha (Diby esp)]] 15:10, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

== physical ==

Why is razor leaf a physical move? Iou can clearly see that it's special in the anime.And if it is special only in the anime, maybe someone could ad this?--'''[[wp:Wikipedia|Wiki]]'''[[User:Tomas|''Tomas'']] 08:59, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
So, is '''''anyone''''' going to reply to that? I gess not.--'''[[wp:Wikipedia|Wiki]]'''[[User:Tomas|''Tomas'']] 14:03, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Razor Leaf (move)

2010-02-09T14:03:33Z

Tomas: /* physical */

==Sudowoodo?==
Should Brock's Sudowoodo be mentioned here? It can only use Razor Leaf if it Mimic'd it previously in the battle! [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] 19:15, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

:Let's just remove the picture, but not from the list. After all, it ''did'' use it.. just not as an actual attack. [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 19:17, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Sounds good to me. [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] 19:19, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

:Why remove the picture??? It shows how it does the move! [[Image:Ani234MS.gif]][[User:Theryguy512|MERRY]] [[Image:Ani385MS.gif]] [[User talk:Theryguy512|CHRISTMAS]][[Image:Ani225MS.gif]] 00:06, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

:::...because we don't need 2398249274374 pictures on the same page, showing the same effect. [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 00:09, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

::::Well, people may think that it comes out of Sudowood's hands or something. [[Image:Ani234MS.gif]][[User:Theryguy512|MERRY]] [[Image:Ani385MS.gif]] [[User talk:Theryguy512|CHRISTMAS]][[Image:Ani225MS.gif]] 01:30, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

:...do people really want to know? o_o Like, so badly that they sign up and complain? Think about it. [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 01:50, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

== Other Languages ==
I saw in this article Spanish and Latin America Spanish (anime)... And then I wonder: There are no official Portuguese games, and all names listed in Portuguese are from the anime. Should we add "(anime)" after Portuguese or no need? [[User:Diby esp|Gabriel Rocha (Diby esp)]] 15:10, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

== physical ==

Why is razor leaf a physical move? Iou can clearly see that it's special in the anime.And if it is special only in the anime, maybe someone could ad this?--'''[[wp:Wikipedia|Wiki]]'''[[User:Tomas|''Tomas'']] 08:59, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
So, is '''''anyone''''' going to reply to that?--'''[[wp:Wikipedia|Wiki]]'''[[User:Tomas|''Tomas'']] 14:03, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

DP143

2010-02-06T12:50:31Z

Tomas: /* Major events */ changed Kotone to Lyra

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'''An Egg Scramble!''' (Japanese: '''ジョウトフェスタ！チコリータとワニノコ登場！！''' ''{{tt|Jōto|Johto}} Festa! Enter {{tt|Chicorita|Chikorita}} and {{tt|Waninoko|Totodile}}!!'') is the 143rd episode of the {{series|Diamond & Pearl}}, and the 609th episode of the [[Pokémon anime]]. It first aired in Japan as a 1 hour special on September 17, 2009, along with ''[[DP144|Gone With the Windworks!]]'' and will air in the United States on February 6, 2010.{{spoilers}}
==Synopsis==
{{incomplete synopsis}}

==Major events==
* {{Ash}} and {{ashfr|friends}} meet {{an|Lyra}} and [[Khoury]], two [[Pokémon Trainer]]s from [[Johto]].
*{{an|Dawn}} has a {{pkmn|battle}} with Lyra during the [[Johto Festival]] and wins an {{pkmn|egg}}, which hatches into a {{TP|Dawn|Cyndaquil}}.
* Kotone and Khoury join the group.

===Debuts===
* {{an|Lyra}}
* [[Khoury]]
====Pokémon debuts====
* [[Dawn's Cyndaquil]]

==Characters==
===Humans===
* {{Ash}}
* {{an|Dawn}}
* [[Brock]]
* [[Jessie]]
* [[James]]
* {{an|Kotone}}
* [[Khoury]]
* [[Khoury's father]]
* [[Clair]] (on T.V.)

===Pokémon===
* {{p|Pikachu}} ({{OP|Ash|Pikachu}})
* {{p|Meowth}} ({{TRM}})
* {{p|Piplup}} ({{OP|Dawn|Piplup}})
* {{p|Staraptor}} ({{OP|Ash|Staraptor}})
* {{p|Carnivine}} ({{OP|James|Carnivine}})
* {{p|Cyndaquil}} ({{OP|Dawn|Cyndaquil}}; hatched)
* {{p|Marill}} ({{an|Kotone}}'s)
* {{p|Chikorita}} ({{an|Kotone}}'s)
* {{p|Totodile}} ([[Khoury]]'s)
* {{p|Ampharos}} ([[Amphy]]; on T.V.)
* {{p|Dragonair}} ({{OP|Clair|Dragonair}}; on T.V.)
* {{p|Teddiursa}}
* {{p|Ursaring}} (multiple)
* {{p|Celebi}} (fantasy)
* {{p|Lugia}} (fantasy)
* {{p|Entei}} (fantasy)

==Trivia==
[[File:ClairDragonairHGSS.png|thumb|220px|Clair in her new clothes]]
* This is the first episode of the five-part 'Kotone and Khoury' mini-arc.
* Kotone's Johto introduction showed Clair in her [[Generation IV]] outfit.
* This is the first time that a main character receives an egg in which it hatches in the same episode.
* The episode shows many of the new [[List of key items in Generation IV|key items]] within {{2v2|HeartGold|SoulSilver}}. At their stall, Kazunari and his father are selling items such as [[Apricorn]]s, {{DL|List of key items in Generation IV|Apricorn Case}}s, [[Berry|Berry Planters]], [[Rage Candy Bar]]s, and [[Apricorn Shaker]]s.
* This episode, which featured {{an|Dawn}} getting a new Pokémon ({{TP|Dawn|Cyndaquil}}), aired close to when ''[[DP124|To Thine Own Pokémon Be True!]]'' aired in the US, which featured her releasing a Pokémon ({{TP|Dawn|Ambipom}}).
** Interestingly, Cyndaquil knows the move {{m|Swift}}, one of Ambipom's most-used moves
* Much like how [[Marilyn]] from ''[[DP125|Battling a Cute Drama!]]'' called Dawn ''Hikarin'', Kotone also calls Dawn this.
* The move {{m|Water Gun}} receives a new digital effect in this episode.

===Errors===

===Dub edits===

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Pokémon world in relation to the real world

2010-01-21T11:54:52Z

Tomas: /* Other applications of real-world locations */

{{shortcut|1|PKWorld}}
{{Featured}} 
{{fan speculation}}
----
[[File:pokemonworld.png|thumb|right|250px|The map of Japan showing the four Pokémon main game and the Almia regions' relation to the said regional country.]]
The design of six of the major Pokémon regions - [[Kanto]], [[Johto]], [[Hoenn]], [[Orre]], [[Sinnoh]], and [[Almia]] are strikingly similar in geography and demographics to regions in the real world, specifically those of [[wp:Japan|Japan]].

==Kanto==
The [[wp:Kanto region|Kantō region]] of Japan is not only identical in name to [[Kanto]] in the [[Pokémon world]], it is also very similar geographically; however, the western part of the game Kanto corresponds to eastern [[wp:Chubu region|Chūbu]].

{| style="background: #2E83D2; margin-left: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; -moz-border-radius: 10px; border: 3px solid #81807A"
|-
! style="background: #6AA9E4; -moz-border-radius-topleft: 10px" width="15%" | Pokémon world
! colspan="2" width="25%" style="background: #6AA9E4" | Specific location
! colspan="2" width="20%" style="background: #6AA9E4" | Prefecture
! style="background: #6AA9E4; -moz-border-radius-topright: 10px"| Comments
|- style="background: #fff"
| [[Pallet Town]]
| {{jwp|下田市}}
| {{wp|Shimoda, Shizuoka|Shimoda City}}
| {{jwp|静岡県}}
| {{wp|Shizuoka Prefecture|Shizuoka}}
| Pallet Town is based on [[Satoshi Tajiri]]'s hometown {{wp|Machida, Tokyo|Machida City}} in his boyhood, abundant in nature.
|- style="background: #fff"
| [[Viridian City]]
| colspan="2" | South Yamanashi
| {{jwp|山梨県}}
| {{wp|Yamanashi Prefecture|Yamanashi}}
|
|- style="background: #fff"
| [[Cerulean City]]
| {{jwp|さいたま市}}
| {{wp|Saitama|Saitama City}}
| {{jwp|埼玉県}}
| {{wp|Saitama Prefecture|Saitama}}
| Saitama is bordered in the west by the Arakawa River.
|- style="background: #fff"
| [[Vermilion City]]
| {{jwp|横浜市}}
| {{wp|Yokohama, Kanagawa|Yokohama City}}
| {{jwp|神奈川県}}
| {{wp|Kanagawa Prefecture|Kanagawa}}
| Yokohama is the largest seaport in Japan.
|- style="background: #fff"
| [[Power Plant]]
| {{jwp|東海発電所}}
| Tōkai Power Plant
| {{jwp|茨城県}}
| {{wp|Ibaraki Prefecture|Ibaraki}}
| The first commercial nuclear power plant in Japan.
|- style="background: #fff"
| [[Lavender Town]]
| colspan="2" |
| {{jwp|茨城県}}
| {{wp|Ibaraki Prefecture|Ibaraki}}
|
|- style="background: #fff"
| [[Celadon City]]
| {{jwp|新宿}}
| {{wp|Shinjuku}}
| {{jwp|東京都}}
| {{wp|Tokyo|Tōkyō}}
| Shinjuku is the commercial center of Tokyo.
|- style="background: #fff"
| [[Saffron City]]
| {{jwp|丸の内}}
| {{wp|Marunouchi}}
| {{jwp|東京都}}
| {{wp|Tokyo|Tōkyō}}
| Marunouchi is the business center of Tokyo, even of Japan.
|- style="background: #fff"
| [[Fuchsia City]]
| {{jwp|館山市}}
| {{wp|Tateyama, Chiba|Tateyama City}}
| {{jwp|千葉県}}
| {{wp|Chiba Prefecture|Chiba}}
|
|- style="background: #fff"
| [[Kanto Safari Zone]]
| {{jwp|富士箱根伊豆国立公園}}
| {{wp|Fuji-Hakone-Izu National Park}}
| {{jwp|山梨県}}、{{jwp|静岡県}}、{{jwp|神奈川県}}、{{jwp|東京都}}
| {{wp|Yamanashi Prefecture|Yamanashi}}, {{wp|Shizuoka Prefecture|Shizuoka}}, {{wp|Kanagawa Prefecture|Kanagawa}}, and {{wp|Tokyo Prefecture|Tokyo}}
|
|- style="background: #fff"
| {{ka|Cycling Road}}
| {{jwp|東京湾アクアライン}}
| {{wp|Tokyo Bay Aqua-Line|Tōkyō Bay Aqua-Line}}
| colspan="2" |
| It connects {{wp|Kawasaki, Kanagawa|Kawasaki City}} and {{wp|Kisarazu, Chiba|Kisarazu City}} over Tokyo Bay. It was under construction when {{game|Red and Green|s}} were released.
|-
| style="background: #fff; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft: 10px;" | [[Cinnabar Island]]
| style="background: #fff" | {{jwp|伊豆大島}}
| style="background: #fff" | {{wp|Izu Oshima|Izu-Ōshima}}
| style="background: #fff" | {{jwp|東京都}}
| style="background: #fff" | {{wp|Tokyo|Tōkyō}}
| style="background: #fff; -moz-border-radius-bottomright: 10px;" | Oshima is famous for Mt. Mihara, an active volcano.
|}

===Sevii Islands===
The Sevii Islands are based off two archipelagos off the coast of Tokyo: the {{wp|Izu Islands}} ({{jwp|伊豆諸島}}) and the {{wp|Bonin Islands}} ({{jwp|小笠原諸島}}).

{| style="background: #2E83D2; margin-left: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; -moz-border-radius: 10px; border: 3px solid #81807A"
|-
! style="background: #6AA9E4; -moz-border-radius-topleft: 10px" width="15%" | Pokémon world
! colspan="2" width="25%" style="background: #6AA9E4" | Specific location
! colspan="2" width="20%" style="background: #6AA9E4" | Prefecture
! style="background: #6AA9E4; -moz-border-radius-topright: 10px"| Comments
|- style="background: #fff"
| [[Knot Island]]
| {{jwp|新島}}、{{jwp|神津島}}、{{jwp|式根島}}、{{jwp|利島}}
| {{wp|Niijima, Tokyo|Niijima}}, {{wp|Kozushima|Kōzushima}}, {{wp|Shikinejima}} and {{wp|Toshima}}
| {{jwp|大島支庁}}
| {{wp|Oshima Subprefecture (Tokyo)|Oshima}}
|
|- style="background: #fff"
| [[Kindle Road]]
| {{jwp|新島}}
| {{wp|Niijima}}
| colspan="2" |
|
|- style="background: #fff"
| [[Treasure Beach]]
| {{jwp|神津島}}
| {{wp|Kozushima}}
| colspan="2" |
|
|- style="background: #fff"
| [[Mt. Ember]]
| {{jwp|利島}}宮塚山
| Mt. Miyatsuka, {{wp|Toshima Island}}
| colspan="2" |
|
|- style="background: #fff"
| [[Boon Island]]
| {{jwp|三宅島}}、{{jwp|御蔵島}}
| {{wp|Miyakejima}} & {{wp|Mikurajima}}
| {{jwp|三宅支庁}}
| {{wp|Miyake Subprefecture|Miyake}}
|
|- style="background: #fff"
| [[Kin Island]]
| {{jwp|八丈島}}、{{jwp|八丈小島}}
| {{wp|Hachijōjima}} & Hachijōkojima
| {{jwp|八丈支庁}}
| {{wp|Hachijō Subprefecture|Hachijō}}
|
|- style="background: #fff"
| [[Berry Forest]]
| {{jwp|八丈小島}}
| Hachijōkojima
| colspan="2" |
|
|- style="background: #fff"
| [[Three Isle Port]]
| 底土港
| Sokodo Port
| colspan="2" |
|
|- style="background: #fff"
| [[Floe Island]]
| {{jwp|青ヶ島}}
| {{wp|Aogashima}}
| {{jwp|八丈支庁}}
| {{wp|Hachijō Subprefecture|Hachijō}}
|
|- style="background: #fff"
| [[Chrono Island]]
| {{jwp|聟島列島}}
| Mukojima Islands
| {{jwp|小笠原支庁}}
| {{wp|Ogasawara Subprefecture|Ogasawara}}
| All are uninhabited.
|- style="background: #fff"
| [[Water Labyrinth]]
| {{jwp|西之島}}
| Nishinoshima
| colspan="2" |
|
|- style="background: #fff"
| [[Resort Gorgeous]]
| 中ノ島
| Nakanoshima
| colspan="2" |
|
|- style="background: #fff"
| [[Lost Cave]]
| 笹魚島
| Sasauojima
| colspan="2" |
|
|- style="background: #fff"
| [[Memorial Pillar]]
| {{jwp|媒島}}
| Nakoudojima
| colspan="2" |
|
|- style="background: #fff"
| [[Fortune Island]]
| 父島列島
| Chichijima Islands
| {{jwp|小笠原支庁}}
| {{wp|Ogasawara Subprefecture|Ogasawara}}
| The small islands to the north of Chichijima include Anijima ([[jwp:兄島|兄島]]) and Otōtojima ([[jwp:弟島|弟島]]), among others.
|- style="background: #fff"
| [[Ruin Valley]]
| {{jwp|父島}}
| {{wp|Chichijima}}
| colspan="2" |
|
|- style="background: #fff"
| [[Green Path]]
| {{jwp|兄島}}
| Anijima
| colspan="2" |
|
|- style="background: #fff"
| [[Outcast Island]]
| {{jwp|弟島}}
| Otōtojima
| colspan="2" |
|
|- style="background: #fff"
| [[Quest Island]]
| 母島列島
| Hahajima Islands
| {{jwp|小笠原支庁}}
| {{wp|Ogasawara Subprefecture|Ogasawara}}
| The small islands to the south of Hahajima include Anejima ({{jwp|姉島}}) and Imōtojima ({{jwp|妹島}}), among others.
|- style="background: #fff"
| [[Navel Rock]]
| {{jwp|鳥島}}
| Torishima
| {{jwp|八丈支庁}}
| {{wp|Hachijō Subprefecture|Hachijō}}
| Known as the habitat of albatross.
|-
| style="background: #fff; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft: 10px;" | [[Birth Island]]
| style="background: #fff" | {{jwp|南鳥島}}
| style="background: #fff" | {{wp|Minami Torishima}}
| style="background: #fff" | {{jwp|小笠原支庁}}
| style="background: #fff" | {{wp|Ogasawara Subprefecture|Ogasawara}}
| style="background: #fff; -moz-border-radius-bottomright: 10px;" | The easternmost island belonging to Japan.
|}

==Johto==
In Japan, the Kanto region is often contrasted with {{wp|Kansai}}, which is like Johto, to the west. However, Johto is geographically more similar to the combined region of Kansai and western {{wp|Chubu}}.

{| style="background: #2E83D2; margin-left: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; -moz-border-radius: 10px; border: 3px solid #81807A"
|-
! style="background: #6AA9E4; -moz-border-radius-topleft: 10px" width="15%" | Pokémon world
! colspan="2" width="25%" style="background: #6AA9E4" | Specific location
! colspan="2" width="20%" style="background: #6AA9E4" | Prefecture
! style="background: #6AA9E4; -moz-border-radius-topright: 10px"| Comments
|- style="background: #fff"
| [[Mt. Silver]]
| {{jwp|富士山}}
| {{wp|Mount Fuji}}
| colspan="2" style="text-align: center;" | —
|
|- style="background: #fff"
| [[New Bark Town]]
| {{jwp|静岡市}} or {{jwp|浜松市}}
| {{wp|Shizuoka, Shizuoka|Shizuoka City}} or {{wp|Hamamatsu, Shizuoka|Hamamatsu City}}
| {{jwp|静岡県}}
| {{wp|Shizuoka Prefecture|Shizuoka}}
|
|- style="background: #fff"
| [[Cherrygrove City]]
| {{jwp|名古屋市}}
| {{wp|Nagoya, Aichi|Nagoya City}}
| {{jwp|愛知県}}
| {{wp|Aichi Prefecture|Aichi}}
| Nagoya is the third largest city following Osaka.
|- style="background: #fff"
| [[Violet City]]
| {{jwp|奈良市}}
| {{wp|Nara, Nara|Nara City}}
| {{jwp|奈良県}}
| {{wp|Nara Prefecture|Nara}}
| Nara is where Japan as a state began; {{wp|Kyoto, Kyoto|Kyoto City}} is also nearby, and is home to a number of prestigious universities.
|- style="background: #fff"
| [[Sprout Tower]]
| {{jwp|法隆寺}}{{jwp|五重塔}}
| {{wp|Hōryū-ji}} Five-story pagoda
| {{jwp|奈良県}}
| {{wp|Nara Prefecture|Nara}}
| Hōryū-ji Pagoda and Kondō are the oldest wooden structures in existence in the world.
|- style="background: #fff"
| [[Ruins of Alph]]
| {{jwp|明日香村}}
| {{wp|Asuka, Nara|Asuka Village}}
| {{jwp|奈良県}}
| {{wp|Nara Prefecture|Nara}}
| There are many archaeological sites in Nara such as Ishibutai Kofun ({{jwp|石舞台古墳}}) and {{wp|Takamatsuzuka Tomb}} ({{jwp|高松塚古墳}}).
|- style="background: #fff"
| [[Azalea Town]]
| {{jwp|みなべ町}}
| {{wp|Minabe, Wakayama|Minabe Village}}
| {{jwp|和歌山県}}
| {{wp|Wakayama Prefecture|Wakayama}}
| Minabe is famous for its high-quality Japanese apricots, known as {{wp|ume}}, and high-quality charcoal, known as {{wp|Binchotan}}.
|- style="background: #fff"
| [[Goldenrod City]]
| {{jwp|大阪市}}
| {{wp|Osaka|Ōsaka City}}
| {{jwp|大阪府}}
| {{wp|Osaka Prefecture|Ōsaka}}
| Osaka is the most populous city in the Kansai region.
|- style="background: #fff"
| [[National Park]]
| {{jwp|明治の森箕面国定公園}} or {{jwp|万博記念公園}}
| Meiji no Mori Minoo Quasi-National Park or {{wp|Expo Memorial Park}}
| {{jwp|大阪府}}
| {{wp|Osaka Prefecture|Ōsaka}}
| In the Expo Park is a famous monument called the Tower of the Sun.
|- style="background: #fff"
| [[Goldenrod Radio Tower]]
| {{jwp|通天閣}}
| {{wp|Tsutenkaku}}
| {{jwp|大阪府}}
| {{wp|Osaka Prefecture|Ōsaka}}
| Tsutenkaku is one of the most popular landmarks in Osaka.
|- style="background: #fff"
| [[Ecruteak City]]
| {{jwp|京都市}}
| {{wp|Kyoto|Kyōto City}}
| {{jwp|京都府}}
| {{wp|Kyoto Prefecture|Kyōto}}
| Kyoto was formerly the imperial capital.
|- style="background: #fff"
| [[Brass Tower]]
| {{jwp|金閣}}
| {{wp|Kinkaku}}
| {{jwp|京都府}}
| {{wp|Kyoto Prefecture|Kyōto}}
| Kinkaku was set on fire by a monk in 1950 ({{jwp|金閣寺放火事件}}). The wall is covered with gold leaf. Atop the Kinkaku temple sits a golden statue of a rooster or phoenix ({{p|Ho-Oh}}).
|- style="background: #fff"
| [[Tin Tower]]
| {{jwp|銀閣}}
| {{wp|Ginkaku-ji|Ginkaku}}
| {{jwp|京都府}}
| {{wp|Kyoto Prefecture|Kyōto}}
| Ginkaku is '''not''' covered with silver leaf. Atop the Ginkaku temple rests the likeness of a bird ({{p|Lugia}}).
|- style="background: #fff"
| [[Olivine City]]
| {{jwp|神戸市}}
| {{wp|Kobe, Hyogo|Kōbe City}}
| {{jwp|兵庫県}}
| {{wp|Hyogo Prefecture|Hyōgo}}
| Kobe is the major port city in the Kansai region. Kobe is also well known for ''wagyū'', or {{wp|Kobe beef}}.
|- style="background: #fff"
| [[Glitter Lighthouse]]
| {{jwp|和田岬}}
| Cape Wada
| {{jwp|兵庫県}}
| {{wp|Hyogo Prefecture|Hyogo}}
|
|- style="background: #fff"
| [[Whirl Islands]]
| {{jwp|淡路島}}
| {{wp|Awaji Island|Awajishima}}
| {{jwp|兵庫県}}
| {{wp|Hyogo Prefecture|Hyōgo}}
| The {{wp|Naruto Strait}}, Between Awajishima and Shikoku, is famous for its whirlpool ({{wp|Naruto whirlpool}}).
|- style="background: #fff"
| [[Cianwood City]]
| {{jwp|鳴門市}}
| {{wp|Naruto, Tokushima|Naruto City}}
| {{jwp|徳島県}}
| {{wp|Tokushima Prefecture|Tokushima}}
| Naruto is where {{wp|Otsuka Pharmaceutical Co.}} began.
|- style="background: #fff"
| [[Mt. Mortar]]
| {{jwp|比叡山}}
| {{wp|Mount Hiei}}
| colspan="2" style="text-align: center;" | —
|
|- style="background: #fff"
| [[Mahogany Town]]
| {{jwp|甲賀市}}
| {{wp|Koga, Shiga|Kōka City}}
| {{jwp|滋賀県}}
| {{wp|Shiga Prefecture|Shiga}}
| Koka was classified as a town when the game was released. Koka is where the famous Koga Ninja were born and educated ({{wp|Kōga-ryū}}, {{jwp|甲賀流}}).
|- style="background: #fff"
| [[Lake of Rage]]
| {{jwp|琵琶湖}}
| {{wp|Lake Biwa}}
| {{jwp|滋賀県}}
| {{wp|Shiga Prefecture|Shiga}}
| Lake Biwa is the largest lake in Japan.
|- style="background: #fff"
| [[Blackthorn City]]
| {{jwp|白川郷}}
| {{wp|Shirakawa}}
| {{jwp|岐阜県}}
| {{wp|Gifu Prefecture|Gifu}}
| Shirakawa is known as a hidden region, relating to Blackthorn's Japanese name, Fusube, which roughly means 'hidden area'
|-
| style="background: #fff; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft: 10px;" | [[Dragon's Den]]
| style="background: #fff" | {{jwp|伊吹山}}
| style="background: #fff" | {{wp|Mt. Ibuki}}
| style="background: #fff" colspan="2" |
| style="background: #fff; -moz-border-radius-bottomright: 10px;" | "Ibuki" is also the Japanese name of [[Clair]].
|}

==Hoenn==
Hoenn is based on the southernmost parts of Japan - {{wp|Kyushu|Kyūshū}} and {{wp|Okinawa Prefecture|Okinawa}} - with the latter highly condensed. (The distance between the northernmost and southernmost points of Okinawa is about as large as the distance between the northernmost and southernmost points of {{wp|Honshu}}, the mainland of Japan.)

{| style="background: #2E83D2; margin-left: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; -moz-border-radius: 10px; border: 3px solid #81807A"
|-
! style="background: #6AA9E4; -moz-border-radius-topleft: 10px" width="15%" | Pokémon world
! colspan="2" width="25%" style="background: #6AA9E4" | Specific location
! colspan="2" width="20%" style="background: #6AA9E4" | Prefecture
! style="background: #6AA9E4; -moz-border-radius-topright: 10px"| Comments
|- style="background: #fff"
| [[Littleroot Town]]
| {{jwp|伊万里市}} or {{jwp|佐世保市}}
| {{wp|Imari, Saga|Imari City}} or {{wp|Sasebo, Nagasaki|Sasebo City}}
| {{jwp|長崎県}}
| {{wp|Nagasaki Prefecture|Nagasaki}} or {{wp|Saga Prefecture|Saga}}
| The {{WP|United States Navy}} has operated a base in Sasebo since the end of World War II.
|- style="background: #fff"
| [[Oldale Town]]
| {{jwp|佐賀市}}
| {{wp|Saga, Saga|Saga City}}
| {{jwp|佐賀県}}
| {{wp|Saga Prefecture|Saga}}
|
|- style="background: #fff"
| [[Petalburg City]]
| {{jwp|福岡市}}
| {{wp|Fukuoka, Fukuoka|Fukuoka City}}
| {{jwp|福岡県}}
| {{wp|Fukuoka Prefecture|Fukuoka}}
| Fukuoka is the biggest city on Kyushu.
|- style="background: #fff"
| [[Rustboro City]]
| {{jwp|北九州市}}
| {{wp|Kitakyushu, Fukuoka|Kitakyushu City}}
| {{jwp|福岡県}}
| {{wp|Fukuoka Prefecture|Fukuoka}}
| Kitakyushu's main industry is steelmaking.
|- style="background: #fff"
| [[Dewford Town]]
| {{jwp|対馬}}
| {{wp|Tsushima Island}}
| {{jwp|長崎県}}
| {{wp|Nagasaki Prefecture|Nagasaki}}
| Tsushima was an island of Korea before 1945; the old name is ''Daemado''.
|- style="background: #fff"
| [[Slateport City]]
| {{jwp|長崎市|長崎市}}
| {{wp|Nagasaki, Nagasaki|Nagasaki City}}
| {{jwp|長崎県}}
| {{wp|Nagasaki Prefecture|Nagasaki}}
| During the Edo period, among Europeans only the Dutch were allowed into Japan, and then only at Nagasaki, specifically, {{wp|Dejima}}. The main industry is shipbuilding.
|- style="background: #fff"
| [[Mauville City]]
| {{jwp|熊本市}}
| {{wp|Kumamoto, Kumamoto|Kumamoto City}}
| {{jwp|熊本県}}
| {{wp|Kumamoto Prefecture|Kumamoto}}
|
|- style="background: #fff"
| [[Verdanturf Town]]
| {{jwp|菊池市}}
| {{wp|Kikuchi, Kumamoto|Kikuchi City}}
| {{jwp|熊本県}}
| {{wp|Kumamoto Prefecture|Kumamoto}}
|
|- style="background: #fff"
| [[Mt. Chimney]]
| {{jwp|阿蘇山}}
| {{wp|Mount Aso}}
| {{jwp|熊本県}}
| {{wp|Kumamoto Prefecture|Kumamoto}}
| The largest active volcano in Japan.
|- style="background: #fff"
| [[Lavaridge Town]]
| {{jwp|阿蘇町}}
| {{wp|Aso, Kumamoto|Aso Town}}
| {{jwp|熊本県}}
| {{wp|Kumamoto Prefecture|Kumamoto}}
| Aso is home to at seven {{wp|onsen}}, or hot springs ({{jwp|阿蘇温泉郷}}).
|- style="background: #fff"
| [[Meteor Falls]]
| 羽門の滝
| Udo Falls
| {{jwp|大分県}}
| {{wp|Oita Prefecture|Ōita}}
| There is a legend of a white dragon.
|- style="background: #fff"
| [[Fallarbor Town]]
| {{jwp|大分市}}
| {{wp|Oita, Oita|Ōita City}}
| {{jwp|大分県}}
| {{wp|Oita Prefecture|Ōita}}
|
|- style="background: #fff"
| [[Fortree City]]
| colspan="2" | North Miyazaki
| {{jwp|宮崎県}}
| {{wp|Miyazaki Prefecture|Miyazaki}}
|
|- style="background: #fff"
| [[Scorched Slab]]
| {{jwp|天岩戸}}
| {{wp|Amano-Iwato}}
| {{jwp|宮崎県}}
| {{wp|Miyazaki Prefecture|Miyazaki}}
| Amano-Iwato is where {{wp|Amaterasu}} shut herself up in {{wp|Japanese mythology}}.
|- style="background: #fff"
| [[Mt. Pyre]]
| {{jwp|桜島}}
| {{wp|Sakurajima}}
| {{jwp|鹿児島県}}
| {{wp|Kagoshima Prefecture|Kagoshima}}
| Sakurajima is an active volcano, formerly an island. Volcanic activity continues, dropping large amounts of ash in the region.
|- style="background: #fff"
| [[Lilycove City]]
| {{jwp|鹿屋市}}
| {{wp|Kanoya, Kagoshima|Kanoya City}}
| {{jwp|鹿児島県}}
| {{wp|Kagoshima Prefecture|Kagoshima}}
|
|- style="background: #fff"
| [[Mossdeep City]]
| {{jwp|種子島}}
| {{wp|Tanegashima}}
| {{jwp|鹿児島県}}
| {{wp|Kagoshima Prefecture|Kagoshima}}
|
|- style="background: #fff"
| Mossdeep Space Center
| {{jwp|種子島宇宙センター}}
| {{wp|Tanegashima Space Center}}
| {{jwp|鹿児島県}}
| {{wp|Kagoshima Prefecture|Kagoshima}}
|
|- style="background: #fff"
| [[Sootopolis City]]
| {{jwp|屋久島}}
| {{wp|Yakushima Island|Yakushima}}
| {{jwp|鹿児島県}}
| {{wp|Kagoshima Prefecture|Kagoshima}}
| The landscape of Sootopolis City is based on {{wp|Santorini}}, {{wp|Greece}}.
|- style="background: #fff"
| [[Ever Grande City]]
| {{jwp|那覇市}}
| {{wp|Naha City}}
| {{jwp|沖縄県}}
| {{wp|Okinawa Prefecture|Okinawa}}
| Despite the distance from Kyushu to Naha, the shape of the Okinawa main island is strikingly similar, although upside down.
|- style="background: #fff"
| [[Mirage Island]]
| 八重干瀬
| Yaebishi
| {{jwp|沖縄県}}
| {{wp|Okinawa Prefecture|Okinawa}}
| Yaebishi appears above the sea on March 3 by the lunisolar calendar.
|- style="background: #fff"
| [[Pacifidlog Town]]
| {{jwp|八重山諸島}}
| {{wp|Yaeyami Islands}}
| {{jwp|沖縄県}}
| {{wp|Okinawa Prefecture|Okinawa}}
| Ishigaki Island, located in the Yaeyami Islands, contain rare blue corals. The islands of Okinawa Prefecture are home to many coral reefs
|-
| style="background: #fff; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft: 10px;" | [[Sealed Chamber]]
| style="background: #fff;" | {{jwp|与那国島}}
| style="background: #fff;" | {{wp|Yonaguni}}
| style="background: #fff;" | {{jwp|沖縄県}}
| style="background: #fff;" | {{wp|Okinawa Prefecture|Okinawa}}
| style="background: #fff; -moz-border-radius-bottomright: 10px;" | Underneath the water's surface, ancient stone structures were found to be artificially created
|}

==Orre==

Orre has been specifically stated to be based on Arizona, with its many deserts and a few similar landmarks making the topography rather similar to the 48th US State. However, Orre also bears striking resemblance to the Gunma Prefecture of Japan in shape, which would place Orre north of Kanto and Johto.

{| style="background: #2E83D2; margin-left: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; -moz-border-radius: 10px; border: 3px solid #81807A"
|-
! style="background: #6AA9E4; -moz-border-radius-topleft: 10px" width="15%" | Pokémon world
! colspan="2" style="background: #6AA9E4" | Specific location
! colspan="2" style="background: #6AA9E4" | Prefecture
! style="background: #6AA9E4; -moz-border-radius-topright: 10px" | Comments
|- style="background: #fff"
| [[Outskirt Stand]]
| {{jwp|岩宿遺跡|岩宿}}
| {{wp|Iwajuku}}
| {{jwp|群馬県}}
| {{wp|Gunma Prefecture|Gunma}}
| Orre seems to be a bit futuristic, the Outskirt Stand sporting a very old and outdated train. Similarly, Iwajuku is home to the Iwajuku Ruins, which date back to the Stone Age.
|- style="background: #fff"
| [[Phenac City]]
| {{jwp|前橋市}}
| {{wp|Maebashi, Gunma|Maebashi City}}
| {{jwp|群馬県}}
| {{wp|Gunma Prefecture|Gunma}}
| Maebashi is the captial of Gunma. The river that runs through Phenac City is likely based on the Tone River. The name probably comes from Phoenix, the capital and largest city of Arizona. Phoenix also has a very similar origin story: Phenac came to be when the mayor's grandfather irrigated water into the area, and when Phoenix was established, the settlers rebuilt the old Hohokam Indian canals to irrigate water into the area.
|-
| style="background: #fff; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft: 10px;" | [[Agate Village]]
| style="background: #fff;" | {{jwp|嬬恋村}}
| style="background: #fff;" | {{wp|Tsumagoi, Gunma|Tsumagoi}}
| style="background: #fff;" | {{jwp|群馬県}}
| style="background: #fff;" | {{wp|Gunma Prefecture|Gunma}}
| style="background: #fff; -moz-border-radius-bottomright: 10px;" | Tsumagoi is a village in an especially fertile part of Japan, known for its cabbages. Azuma River runs through it. Perhaps the most telling clue is that it lays in the Agatsuma Subprefecture.
|}

==Sinnoh==
Sinnoh has been said to be an island like Hoenn, rather than a peninsula. It is based on the northernmost major island of Japan, {{wp|Hokkaido}}. Part of {{wp|Sakhalin}} (Japanese: 樺太 ''Karafuto'') and {{wp|Kunashir Island}} (Japanese: 国後島 ''Kunashiri Island''), territories which are in dispute between {{wp|Russia}} and Japan, are also included.

{| style="background: #2E83D2; margin-left: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; -moz-border-radius: 10px; border: 3px solid #81807A"
|-
! style="background: #6AA9E4; -moz-border-radius-topleft: 10px" width="15%" | Pokémon world
! colspan="2" width="25%" style="background: #6AA9E4" | Specific location
! colspan="2" width="20%" style="background: #6AA9E4" | Subprefecture
! style="background: #6AA9E4; -moz-border-radius-topright: 10px"| Comments
|- style="background: #fff"
| [[Twinleaf Town]]
| {{jwp|登別市}}
| {{wp|Noboribetsu, Hokkaidō|Noboribetsu City}}
| {{jwp|胆振支庁}}
| {{wp|Iburi Subprefecture|Iburi}}
|
|- style="background: #fff"
| [[Lake Verity]]
| {{jwp|洞爺湖}}
| {{wp|Lake Toya|Lake Tōya}}
| {{jwp|胆振支庁}}
| {{wp|Iburi Subprefecture|Iburi}}
|
|- style="background: #fff"
| [[Sandgem Town]]
| {{jwp|苫小牧市}}
| {{wp|Tomakomai, Hokkaido|Tomakomai City}}
| {{jwp|胆振支庁}}
| {{wp|Iburi Subprefecture|Iburi}}
|
|- style="background: #fff"
| [[Jubilife City]]
| {{jwp|札幌市}}
| {{wp|Sapporo, Hokkaido|Sapporo City}}
| {{jwp|空知支庁}}
| {{wp|Sorachi Subprefecture|Sorachi}}
| Sapporo is the largest city in Hokkaido.
|- style="background: #fff"
| [[Oreburgh City]]
| {{jwp|夕張市}}
| {{wp|Yubari, Hokkaido|Yūbari City}}
| {{jwp|空知支庁}}
| {{wp|Sorachi Subprefecture|Sorachi}}
|
|- style="background: #fff"
| [[Oreburgh Mine]]
| {{jwp|夕張炭鉱}}
| Yūbari Mine
| {{jwp|空知支庁}}
| {{wp|Sorachi Subprefecture|Sorachi}}
|
|- style="background: #fff"
| [[Valley Windworks]]
| {{jwp|苫前町}}
| {{wp|Tomamae, Hokkaidō|Tomamae Town}}
| {{jwp|留萌支庁}}
| {{wp|Rumoi Subprefecture|Rumoi}}
| Tomamae is famous for its windmills in the countryside.
|- style="background: #fff"
| [[Eterna City]]
| {{jwp|旭川市}}
| {{wp|Asahikawa, Hokkaido|Asahikawa City}}
| {{jwp|上川支庁}}
| {{wp|Kamikawa Subprefecture|Kamikawa}}
|
|- style="background: #fff"
| [[Mt. Coronet]]
| 蝦夷山系
| Ezo Mountain Chain
| colspan="2" |
| Ezo Mountain Chain consists of the {{wp|Teshio Mountains}} ({{jwp|天塩山地}}), the {{wp|Kitami Mountains}} ({{jwp|北見山地}}), the {{wp|Ishikari Mountains}} ({{jwp|石狩山地}}), the {{wp|Yubari Mountains}} ({{jwp|夕張山地}}), and the {{wp|Hidaka Mountains}} ({{jwp|日高山脈}}).
|- style="background: #fff"
| [[Hearthome City]]
| {{jwp|帯広市}}
| {{wp|Obihiro, Hokkaido|Obihiro City}}
| {{jwp|十勝支庁}}
| {{wp|Tokachi Subprefecture|Tokachi}}
|
|- style="background: #fff"
| [[Solaceon City]]
| {{jwp|足寄町}}
| {{wp|Ashoro, Hokkaido|Ashoro Town}}
| {{jwp|十勝支庁}}
| {{wp|Tokachi Subprefecture|Tokachi}}
| One of Ashoro's main industries is farming.
|- style="background: #fff"
| [[Veilstone City]]
| {{jwp|網走市}}
| {{wp|Abashiri, Hokkaido|Abashiri City}}
| {{jwp|網走支庁}}
| {{wp|Abashiri Subprefecture|Abashiri}}
| Abashiri is famous for the prison ({{jwp|網走刑務所}}).　It is also a major port city.
|- style="background: #fff"
| [[Celestic Town]]
| {{jwp|北見市}}
| {{wp|Kitami, Hokkaido|Kitami City}}
| {{jwp|網走支庁}}
| {{wp|Abashiri Subprefecture|Abashiri}}
|
|- style="background: #fff"
| [[Sendoff Spring]]
| {{jwp|摩周湖}}
| {{wp|Lake Mashu|Lake Mashū}}
| {{jwp|釧路支庁}}
| {{wp|Kushiro Subprefecture|Kushiro}}
| For the fog which hides the surface most of the time, Lake Mashu is known as a mysterious spot.
|- style="background: #fff"
| [[Lake Valor]]
| {{jwp|屈斜路湖}}
| {{wp|Lake Kussharo}}
| {{jwp|釧路支庁}}
| {{wp|Kushiro Subprefecture|Kushiro}}
|
|- style="background: #fff"
| [[Pastoria City]]
| {{jwp|釧路市}}
| {{wp|Kushiro, Hokkaido|Kushiro City}}
| {{jwp|釧路支庁}}
| {{wp|Kushiro Subprefecture|Kushiro}}
| Kushiro is the largest city in Eastern Hokkaido ({{jwp|道東}}).
|- style="background: #fff"
| [[Great Marsh]]
| {{jwp|釧路湿原}}
| Kushiro Marsh
| {{jwp|釧路支庁}}
| {{wp|Kushiro Subprefecture|Kushiro}}
| Kushiro Marsh is the largest and most famous marsh in Japan.
|- style="background: #fff"
| [[Canalave City]]
| {{jwp|小樽市}}
| {{wp|Otaru, Hokkaido|Otaru City}}
| {{jwp|後志支庁}}
| {{wp|Shiribeshi Subprefecture|Shiribeshi}}
| Otaru flourished as a port city, with a canal.
|- style="background: #fff"
| [[Snowpoint City]]
| {{jwp|浜頓別町}}
| {{wp|Hamatonbetsu, Hokkaido|Hamatonbetsu Town}}
| {{jwp|宗谷支庁}}
| {{wp|Soya Subprefecture|Sōya}}
|
|- style="background: #fff"
| [[Lake Acuity]]
| {{jwp|クッチャロ湖}}
| Lake Kutcharo
| {{jwp|宗谷支庁}}
| {{wp|Soya Subprefecture|Sōya}}
|
|- style="background: #fff"
| [[Sunyshore City]]
| {{jwp|根室市}}
| {{wp|Nemuro, Hokkaido|Nemuro City}}
| {{jwp|根室支庁}}
| {{wp|Nemuro Subprefecture|Nemuro}}
|
|- style="background: #fff"
| [[Vista Lighthouse]]
| {{jwp|納沙布岬}}
| Cape Nosappu
| {{jwp|根室支庁}}
| {{wp|Nemuro Subprefecture|Nemuro}}
| Cape Nosappu is Japan's easternmost spot open to the public.
|- style="background: #fff"
| [[Iron Island]]
| {{jwp|焼尻島}}
| {{wp|Yagishiri Island}}
| {{jwp|留萌支庁}}
| {{wp|Rumoi Subprefecture|Rumoi}}
|
|- style="background: #fff"
| {{si|Victory Road}}
| {{jwp|国後島}}
| {{wp|Kunashir Island}}
| colspan="2" | in dispute
|
|- style="background: #fff"
| [[Fullmoon Island]]
| {{jwp|利尻島}}
| {{wp|Rishiri Island}}
| {{jwp|宗谷支庁}}
| {{wp|Soya Subprefecture|Sōya}}
|
|- style="background: #fff"
| [[Newmoon Island]]
| {{jwp|礼文島}}
| {{wp|Rebun Island}}
| {{jwp|宗谷支庁}}
| {{wp|Soya Subprefecture|Sōya}}
|
|-
| style="background: #fff; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft: 10px;" | [[Battle Zone]]
| style="background: #fff;" | {{jwp|樺太}}
| style="background: #fff;" | {{wp|Sakhalin}}
| style="background: #fff;" colspan="2" | in dispute
| style="background: #fff; -moz-border-radius-bottomright: 10px;" |
|}

==Almia==

Hokkaido's tail region wasn't included in Sinnoh's map, but Almia's shape matches it perfectly, placing Almia just south of Sinnoh. Almia's major city would correspond with {{WP|Hakodate}}.

==Landscape==
While the above locations are meant to correspond to the different regions of Japan, great liberties were taken with the design of their landscape. Some of the designers have admitted to drawing inspiration from real-world locations outside Japan, especially with locations shown in [[Pokémon movie]]s.

{| style="background: #2E83D2; margin-left: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; -moz-border-radius: 10px; border: 3px solid #81807A"
|-
! colspan="2" style="background: #6AA9E4; -moz-border-radius-topleft: 10px" | Pokémon world
! colspan="2" style="background: #6AA9E4" | Inspiration
! style="background: #6AA9E4; -moz-border-radius-topright: 10px"| Comments
|- style="background: #fff"
| [[File:Alto Mare.png|Alto Mare|230px]]
| [[Alto Mare]]
| {{wp|Venice}}
| {{wp|Italy}}
|
|- style="background: #fff"
| [[File:Forina.png|Forina|230px]]
| [[Forina]]
| {{wp|Wulingyuan}}
| {{wp|China}}
|
|- style="background: #fff"
| [[File:LaRousse from above.png|LaRousse City|230px]]
| [[LaRousse City]]
| {{wp|Vancouver}}
| {{wp|British Columbia}}, {{wp|Canada}}
|
|- style="background: #fff"
|
| [[Sootopolis City]]
| {{wp|Santorini}}
| {{wp|Greece}}
|
|- style="background: #fff"
| align=center | [[File:Porta vista.jpg|Porta Vista|200px]]
| [[Porta Vista]]
| {{wp|Acapulco}}
| {{wp|Mexico}}.
|
|- style="background: #fff"
|
| [[Pastoria City]]
| {{wp|Boston}}
| {{wp|Massachusetts}}, {{wp|United States}}
| While not mentioned specifically, Pastoria has some similarities with {{wp|Boston}} and the surrounding area. A good portion of the city is built on {{wp|fens}}, there are multiple national parks in the suburbs of outside the city, specifically in towns like {{wp|Duxbury, Massachusetts}} and '''{{wp|Marshfield, Massachusetts}}.'''
|- style="background: #fff"
| [[File:Alamos Town Establishing shot.png|Alamos Town|230px]]
| [[Alamos Town]]
| {{wp|Barcelona}}
| {{wp|Spain}}
| The Space-Time Towers are based on the uncompleted church of {{wp|Sagrada Familia}}.
|- style="background: #fff"
|
| Hollywood
| {{wp|Hollywood}}
| {{wp|California}}, {{wp|United States}}
| Hollywood is obviously based off of {{wp|Hollywood}}, {{wp|California}}. In the dub, it is directly stated that it is located in California.
|-
| style="background: #fff; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft: 10px;" | [[File:Michiina.png|Michina Town|230px]]
| style="background: #fff;" | [[Michina Town]]
| style="background: #fff;" | {{wp|Meteora}}
| style="background: #fff;" | {{wp|Greece}}
| style="background: #fff; -moz-border-radius-bottomright: 10px;" |
|}

==Real-world locations mentioned==
[[File:AG145 noodles.png|thumb|Chinese noodles]]
* {{p|Arcanine}}'s FireRed [[Pokédex]] entry states that it is mentioned in {{wp|China|Chinese}} legends.
* {{p|Parasect}}'s Pokédex entry mentions its spores are used in medicine in China.
* Upon defeating Fisherman Bronson in the [[Sinnoh]] {{si|Battle Tower}}, he will say, "Why the emperor of fishing? It's an ancient Chinese legend..."
* In ''[[AG145|Pasta La Vista!]]'', an ad on a book mentions "Chinese Noodles".
* [[Lt. Surge]] is credited as "The Lightning {{wp|United States|American}}!".
* {{p|Mew}} was originally discovered in the jungles of the {{wp|South America}}n country {{wp|Guyana}}. This is mentioned in logs inside of Cinnabar Island's Burned Mansion.
* {{p|Xatu}}'s FireRed and Silver Pokédex entries mentions its association with mysticism in South America.
* {{p|Poliwrath}}'s Ruby, Sapphire, Emerald, Diamond, Pearl, and Platinum Pokédex entries mention its ability to swim the {{wp|Pacific Ocean}}. Also, it is to be noted that the direction of its spirals depends on their geographical location.
* {{p|Delibird}}'s Ruby, Sapphire and Emerald Pokédex entries explain that a Delibird helped a famous explorer reach the top of {{wp|Mt. Everest}}.
* [[Silph Co.]]'s {{wp|Tiksi}} Branch is in {{wp|Russia}}.
*In [[Mewtwo Strikes Back]], Team Rocket are disguised as {{wp|vikings}}. In the English dub, [[Brock]] says that he didn't know that vikings still existed and {{Ash}} replies that they come from {{wp|Minnesota}}. This is clearly a reference to the {{wp|Minnesota Vikings}} football team.
* {{p|Ponyta}}'s Pokédex entries mentions that it can clear {{wp|Uluru|Ayers Rock}} and jump over the {{wp|Eiffel Tower}} in one leap.
* A [[Guitarist]] that can be battled in the {{Gdis|Battle Frontier|IV}} mentions that his guitar is actually a {{wp|Shamisen|Japanese instrument}}.
* In ''[[EP009|School of Hard Knocks]]'', [[Misty]] mentions wanting to go to {{wp|Paris}}.
* In ''[[AG132|The Scheme Team]]'', [[Jessie]] talks about {{wp|Antarctica}}, the place where their next assignment is located. It should be noted that this was dub-added.
* In ''[[Celebi: Voice of the Forest]]'', Meowth asks if they saw Vicious in a {{wp|Lucha libre|Mexican wrestling}} movie.
* In the English version of ''[[The March of the Exeggutor Squad]]'', Melvin says he wanted to make it to {{wp|Las Vegas}}. It should be noted that he said that he wanted to make it to {{wp|Broadway}} in the Japanese version.

==Other applications of real-world locations==
[[Image:Mewtwo_in_the_City.png|right|thumb|260px|Mewtwo overlooking a "far away city" at the end of ''[[Mewtwo Returns]]'']]
* In {{3v2|Gold|Silver|Crystal}}, [[Randy]], the guard in the guardhouse north of [[Goldenrod City]], will give the player a {{p|Spearow}} holding mail to deliver. The Spearow is nicknamed {{wp|Kenya}}, the name of a country in {{wp|Africa}}.
* In {{p|Raichu}}'s [[Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen Versions|FireRed]] [[Pokédex]] entry, {{wp|Indian Elephant}}s are mentioned. Incidentally, {{p|Gastly}}'s FireRed entry mentions the same thing.
* At the end of ''[[Mewtwo Returns]]'', Mewtwo is shown overlooking a "far away city" that greatly resembles {{wp|New York City}}. Buildings similar to the {{wp|Empire State Building}} and the {{wp|MetLife Building}} are visible in the distance.
* In all of the [[version|main series]] games, and some side series games, there is a [[Nintendo]] gaming console in the {{player}}'s bedroom. This is a reference to the real world gaming company that owns the franchise.
* The {{p|Arceus}} event that takes place in [[Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver Versions|HeartGold and SoulSilver]] includes real life pictures in the game.
* In [[Volcanic Panic]] , when Ash's Charizard performs the Seismic Toss against Blane's Magmar . Real countrys can be seen as Charazard circles the globe.

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Timeline of events in Pokémon the Series

2010-01-04T07:56:10Z

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[[Image:RegionsMoviesMap.jpg|right|thumb|300px|A map of the [[Hoenn]], [[Johto]], [[Kanto]], and [[Sinnoh]] regions in the {{pkmn|anime}}; locations of {{pkmn|movie}}s are deliberately marked, and labeled [[Pokémon]] are positioned in relation to the locations of certain episodes.]]
This is a chronological list of significant events in the {{pkmn|anime}} and the episodes which they occurred in, or, for events which happened outside the series, where they happened in relation to the episodes.

==Timeline==

===Pre-series===
''The order of many of these events is approximated and debatable.''
;The beginning of time
*{{p|Arceus}} appears in the darkness of space in the form of an egg. After hatching, it creates the universe. ([[Arceus and the Jewel of Life]])
;2,000,000 years prior
*First [[Pokémon]], as dated by archaeology. ([[EP163]])

;2000 years prior
*War breaks out. Soldiers leave [[Kanto]] by ship. ([[EP020]])
*[[Ghost of Maiden's Peak|A woman]] dies while waiting for her lover to return at [[Maiden's Peak]], creating a haunted monument. ([[EP020]])
*[[Sir Aaron]] tries to stop the war. He seals his {{mov|Lucario|Lucario|8}} in a staff.

;400 years prior
*Azalea Town experiences a devastating drought that ends when a {{p|Slowpoke|Slowpoke's}} yawn brings rain, prompting the town's people to begin a time-honored tradition of respect for all Slowpoke. ([[EP142]])

;300 years prior
*The [[Orange League]] takes place for the first time. ([[EP095]])

;200 years prior
*Early versions of [[Poké Ball]]s are used. ([[EP232]])
*[[Lokoko]]'s master, who looks identical to [[Brock]], left his home in [[Johto]] to go on a journey. He never returns. ([[EP232]])

;50 years prior
*[[Sam|Samuel Oak]] is born. ([[Celebi: Voice of the Forest]])

;40 years prior
*[[Sam|Samuel Oak]] goes on his [[Pokémon]] journey. ([[Celebi: Voice of the Forest]])

;30 years prior
*[[Kaiser]] reports the existence of a {{p|Dratini}} in the [[Kanto Safari Zone|Safari Zone]]. Thousands of people came to get the rare Pokémon, which literally destroys the Safari Zone in the process. Since then, they only allow [[Poké Ball|Safari Balls]] there. ([[EP035]])

;???
*[[Professor Oak|Samuel Oak]] becomes a {{pkmn|professor}}.
*{{Delia}} and [[Spencer Hale|Spencer]] study as students of [[Professor Oak]]. ([[Spell of the Unown]])
*[[Jessie]] is born.
*[[James]] is born.
*[[James]] is arranged to marry [[Jessiebelle]]. ([[EP048]])
*[[James]] runs away from home. ([[EP048]])
*{{an|Daisy}} is born.
*[[Violet]] is born.
*{{ka|Lily}} is born.
*[[Johanna]] wins the [[Grand Festival]].

;15 years prior
*[[Brock]] is born.

;???
*{{Tracey}} is born.
*[[Jessie]] and [[James]] enroll in a school called [[Pokémon Tech]]. They both drop out shortly after. ([[EP009]])
*[[Jessie]] and [[James]] join a [[bicycle]] gang in [[Sunny Town]]. ([[EP036]])

;11 years prior to DP
*[[Paul]] is born.
*[[Zoey]] is born.

;10 years prior
*[[Misty]] is born. ([[EP003]])
*{{Ash}} is born. ([[EP001]], Shopro)
;10 years prior to AG
*{{an|May}} is born. ([[AG001]], Shopro)
;10 years prior to DP
*{{an|Dawn}} is born. ([[DP001]])

;???
*[[Forrest]] is born. The rest of [[Brock's siblings]] are born afterwards, apparently each about a year or less apart.

;7 years prior to AG
*[[Max]] is born.

;5 years prior
*[[Brock]] receives his first [[Pokémon]] from {{ka|Flint}}, an {{TP|Brock|Onix}}, as a present for his tenth birthday. ([[AG034]])
*[[Molly Hale]] is born.

;???
*{{MTR}} met [[Meowzie]]. ([[EP070]])
*{{MTR}} learned to talk. ([[EP070]])
*{{MTR}} is rejected by [[Meowzie]] and joins [[Team Rocket]]. ([[EP070]])
*[[Jessie]] and [[James]] joined [[Team Rocket]]. ([[H012]])
*[[Brock]] catches a {{TP|Brock|Geodude}}.
*{{ka|Flint}} leaves [[Pewter City]] to [[Pokémon training|train]], leaving the [[Pewter Gym]] in the hands of his oldest son, [[Brock]]. ([[EP005]])
*[[Lola]] leaves [[Pewter City]] out of boredom, leaving [[Brock's siblings|her children]] in the hands of her oldest son, [[Brock]]. ([[EP005]])
**In the dub of [[EP005]], {{ka|Flint}} said [[Lola]] died at this point, rather than leaving. In subsequent episodes where Lola appears, the dub follows the original with Lola leaving home and leaving everything in Brock's care.
*[[Misty]] catches {{TP|Misty|Goldeen}}, {{TP|Misty|Staryu}}, and {{TP|Misty|Starmie}}.
*{{Tracey}} catches {{TP|Tracey|Venonat}} and {{TP|Tracey|Marill}}.
*[[Misty]] leaves [[Cerulean City]] to [[Pokémon training|train]], leaving the [[Cerulean Gym]] in the hands of {{an|Daisy}}, {{ka|Lily}}, and [[Violet]]. ([[EP007]])

;1 year prior
*[[Paul]] turned 10.
*[[Paul]] begins his Pokémon journey. He chose {{TP|Paul|Turtwig|Torterra}} as his {{pkmn2|starter}}. ([[DP040]])

;Less than 1 year prior
*[[Paul]] entered the [[Hoenn|Hoenn league]] ([[DP040]])
*Paul then entered the [[Johto|Johto league]].
*Paul captured his {{TP|Paul|Elekid}}, {{TP|Paul|Murkrow|Honchkrow}}, and {{TP|Paul|Weavile}}. ([[DP040]])
*Paul finally traveled to the [[Kanto|Kanto league]].
*Zoey competed in 3 {{pkmn|Contests}} and won 1 of them.
*Paul returned home to Sinnoh and captures a Ninjask and {{TP|Ash|Chimchar|Monferno}}.

===[[Original series]]===
====[[Kanto]]====
=====[[Pokémon: Indigo League|Season 1]]=====
;''[[EP001|Pokémon, I Choose You!]]''
*{{Ash}} turns 10.
*{{Gary}} turns 10.
*Two unnamed and unknown trainers receive [[Pokédex]]es and [[starter Pokémon]] from [[Professor Oak]]. One of them chooses {{p|Charmander}}, the other chooses {{p|Bulbasaur}}.
*The two unknown rookie trainers leave [[Pallet Town]].
*{{Gary}} receives a [[Pokédex]] and his [[starter Pokémon]] from his grandfather, [[Professor Oak]]. He chooses a {{TP|Gary|Squirtle|Blastoise}}.
*{{Gary}} leaves [[Pallet Town]] to become a [[Pokémon Trainer]].
*{{Ash}} receives a [[Pokédex]] and his [[starter Pokémon]] from [[Professor Oak]]. He chooses the only [[Pokémon]] left, {{AP|Pikachu}}.
*{{Ash}} leaves [[Pallet Town]] to become a [[Pokémon Trainer]].
*{{Ash}} attempts to capture a {{p|Pidgey}}. He fails miserably.
*{{Ash}} meets [[Misty]] and steals her [[bicycle]].
*{{AP|Pikachu}} attacks a flock of {{p|Spearow}}, destroying [[Misty]]'s [[bicycle]] and depleting its health in the process.
*{{Ash}} sees a {{an|Ho-Oh}}.

;''[[EP002|Pokémon Emergency!]]''
*{{Ash}} arrives in [[Viridian City]].
*[[Misty]] begins following {{Ash}} until he repays her for her [[bicycle]].
*[[Team Rocket]] is defeated by {{AP|Pikachu}} for the first of many, many times. They vow to capture it.
*{{Ash}} and [[Misty]] leave [[Viridian City]].
*{{Ash}} and [[Misty]] enter the [[Viridian Forest]].

;''[[EP003|Ash Catches a Pokémon!]]''
*{{Ash}} and [[Misty]] are in the [[Viridian Forest]].
*{{Ash}} catches {{AP|Caterpie}}.
*{{Ash}} catches {{AP|Pidgeotto}}.
*{{AP|Caterpie}} evolves into {{AP|Metapod}}.

;''[[EP004|Challenge of the Samurai]]''
*{{Ash}} and [[Misty]] are in the [[Viridian Forest]].
*{{AP|Metapod}} evolves into {{AP|Butterfree}}.

;''[[EP005|Showdown in Pewter City]]''
*Two weeks have passed since [[EP001|the first episode]].
*{{Ash}} and [[Misty]] leave [[Viridian Forest]].
*{{Ash}} and [[Misty]] arrive in [[Pewter City]].
*{{Ash}} meets {{ka|Flint}}.
*{{Ash}} goes to [[Pewter Gym]] and challenges the [[Gym Leader]], [[Brock]]. He loses by forfeit.
*With the help of {{ka|Flint}}, {{Ash}} supercharges his {{AP|Pikachu}} at an abandoned mill.
*{{Ash}} goes to [[Pewter Gym]] and rechallenges the [[Gym Leader]], [[Brock]]. He loses by forfeit again, despite having a lucky advantage from the sprinklers going off.
*[[Brock]] gives {{Ash}} the {{Badge|Boulder}} despite his forfeiting.
*{{ka|Flint}} reveals himself as [[Brock]]'s father, and reclaims the responsibilities of being [[Gym Leader]] and taking care of [[Brock's siblings]].
*[[Brock]] joins {{Ash}}, starting his journey to become a [[Pokémon Breeder]].
*{{Ash}} and {{ashfr|his friends}} leave [[Pewter City]].

;''[[EP006|Clefairy and the Moon Stone]]''
*{{Ash}} and {{ashfr|his friends}} arrive at [[Mt. Moon]].
*[[Brock]] catches {{TP|Brock|Zubat}}.
*{{Ash}} and {{ashfr|his friends}} leave [[Mt. Moon]].

;''[[EP007|Water Flowers of Cerulean City]]''
*[[Misty]] leaves {{Ash}} to avoid going to [[Cerulean City]].
*{{Ash}} and [[Brock]] arrive in [[Cerulean City]].
*[[Brock]] leaves {{Ash}} for the day.
*{{Ash}} goes to [[Cerulean Gym]] and challenges the [[Gym Leader]], who he learns is [[Misty]].
*{{Ash}}'s battle against [[Misty]] is interrupted by [[Team Rocket]].
*{{an|Daisy}}, {{ka|Lily}}, and [[Violet]] give {{Ash}} the {{Badge|Cascade}} despite the inconclusive match.
*[[Misty]] and [[Brock]] rejoin {{Ash}}.
*{{Ash}} and {{ashfr|his friends}} leave [[Cerulean City]].

;''[[EP008|The Path to the Pokémon League]]''
*{{Ash}} and {{ashfr|his friends}} are en route to [[Vermilion City]]. They arrive at [[A.J.]]'s [[Gym]].
*{{Ash}} challenges [[A.J.]]'s [[Gym]] and loses.
*[[A.J.]] closes his [[Gym]] and prepares to take on the [[Pokémon League]].
*{{Ash}} and {{ashfr|his friends}} leave [[A.J.]]'s [[Gym]].



;''[[EP010|Bulbasaur and the Hidden Village]]''
*{{Ash}} and {{ashfr|his friends}} get lost on the way to [[Vermilion City]]. They find the [[Hidden Village]].
*{{Ash}} catches {{AP|Bulbasaur}}.
*{{Ash}} and {{ashfr|his friends}} leave the [[Hidden Village]], returning to the route to [[Vermilion City]].

;''[[EP011|Charmander the Stray Pokémon]]''
*{{Ash}} and {{ashfr|his friends}} are en route to [[Vermilion City]].
*{{Ash}} catches {{AP|Charmander}}.

;''[[EP012|Here Comes the Squirtle Squad]]''
*{{Ash}} and {{ashfr|his friends}} are en route to [[Vermilion City]].
*{{Ash}} catches {{AP|Squirtle}}.

;''[[EP013|Mystery at the Lighthouse]]''
*{{Ash}} catches {{AP|Krabby|Kingler}}.
*{{Ash}} sends {{AP|Krabby|Kingler}} to [[Professor Oak's Laboratory]], unbeknownst to him.
*{{Ash}} meets [[Bill]].
*{{Ash}}, {{ashfr|his friends}}, and [[Bill]] see a {{pkmn2|giant}} {{p|Dragonite}}.

;''[[EP014|Electric Shock Showdown]]''
*{{Ash}} goes to [[Vermilion Gym]] and challenges the [[Gym Leader]], [[Lt. Surge]]. He loses.
*{{AP|Pikachu}} reveals that it does not want to evolve into a {{p|Raichu}}.
*{{Ash}} goes to [[Vermilion Gym]] and rechallenges the [[Gym Leader]], [[Lt. Surge]]. He wins.
*[[Lt. Surge]] gives {{Ash}} the {{Badge|Thunder}}.

;''[[EP015|Battle Aboard the St. Anne]]''
*{{Ash}} and {{ashfr|his friends}} board the [[S.S. Anne|St. Anne]].
*{{Ash}} trades {{AP|Butterfree}} for {{AP|Raticate}}.
*[[James]] buys a {{p|Magikarp}} from the [[Magikarp salesman]].
*{{Ash}} trades {{AP|Raticate}} for {{AP|Butterfree}}.
*The [[S.S. Anne|St. Anne]] sinks with {{Ash}}, {{ashfr|his friends}}, and [[Team Rocket]] still aboard.

;''[[EP016|Pokémon Shipwreck]]''
*A funeral at sea is held for {{Ash}}, {{ashfr|his friends}}, and [[Team Rocket]].
*{{Ash}}, {{ashfr|his friends}}, and [[Team Rocket]] escape from the sunken [[S.S. Anne|St. Anne]].
*{{p|Magikarp}} evolves into {{DL|List of Pokémon temporarily owned by Team Rocket|Gyarados}}.
*[[James]] loses control of Gyarados and thus {{pkmn2|released|releases}} it.

;''[[EP017|Island of the Giant Pokémon]]''
*An amusement park owned by [[Giovanni]] is wrecked by {{Ash}}, {{ashfr|his friends}}, and [[Team Rocket]].
*{{Ash}} and {{ashfr|his friends}} arrive in [[Porta Vista]].



;''[[EP019|Tentacool and Tentacruel]]''
*[[Misty]] catches {{TP|Misty|Horsea}}.
*[[Porta Vista]] is attacked by a {{pkmn2|giant}} {{p|Tentacruel}} and a swarm of {{p|Tentacool}}.
*{{Ash}} and {{ashfr|his friends}} leave [[Porta Vista]] in a boat headed for the mainland.

;''[[EP020|The Ghost of Maiden's Peak]]''
*It is the last day of summer.

;''[[EP021|Bye-Bye Butterfree]]''
*{{Ash}} and {{ashfr|his friends}} are en route to [[Saffron City]].
*{{AP|Butterfree}} becomes the mate of the [[pink Butterfree]].
*{{Ash}} {{pkmn2|released|releases}} {{AP|Butterfree}}.

;''[[EP022|Abra and the Psychic Pokémon]]''
*{{Ash}} and {{ashfr|his friends}} arrive in [[Saffron City]].
*{{Ash}} goes to [[Saffron Gym]] and challenges the [[Gym Leader]], [[Sabrina]]. He loses.
*{{Ash}} and {{ashfr|his friends}} leave [[Saffron City]].

;''[[EP023|The Tower of Terror]]''
*{{Ash}} and {{ashfr|his friends}} arrive in [[Lavender Town]].
*{{Ash}} enters [[Pokémon Tower]].
*{{Ash}} and {{AP|Pikachu}} are killed by a falling chandelier.
*{{Ash}} and {{AP|Pikachu}}'s spirits fly around [[Pokémon Tower]], having fun with a {{p|Gastly}}, {{AP|Haunter}}, and {{p|Gengar}}.
*{{Ash}} befriends {{AP|Haunter}}.
*{{Ash}} and {{AP|Pikachu}} are revived.

;''[[EP024|Haunter Versus Kadabra]]''
*{{Ash}} goes to [[Saffron Gym]] and rechallenges the [[Gym Leader]], [[Sabrina]]. He loses again.
*[[Brock]] and [[Misty]] are turned into dolls.
*{{Ash}} goes to [[Saffron Gym]] and rechallenges the [[Gym Leader]], [[Sabrina]]. Because of {{AP|Haunter}} making Sabrina laugh, he wins.
*[[Brock]] and [[Misty]] are returned to normal.
*[[Sabrina]] gives {{Ash}} the {{Badge|Marsh}}.
*{{Ash}} leaves {{TP|Sabrina|Haunter}} with [[Sabrina]].

;''[[EP025|Primeape Goes Bananas]]''
*{{AP|Charmander|Charizard}} learns {{m|Rage}}.
*{{Ash}} catches {{AP|Primeape}}.

;''[[EP026|Pokémon Scent-sation]]''
*{{Ash}} is thrown out of [[Celadon Gym]].
*{{Ash}} cooperates with [[Team Rocket]], who disguise him as a [[Ashley|girl]].
*{{Ash}} goes to [[Celadon Gym]] and challenges the [[Gym Leader]], [[Erika]].
*{{Ash}}'s battle against [[Erika]] is interrupted by [[Team Rocket]].
*[[Celadon Gym]] catches on fire.
*{{Ash}} rescues [[Erika's Gloom]] from the fire.
*[[Erika]] gives {{Ash}} the {{Badge|Rainbow}}.

;''[[EP027|Hypno's Naptime]]''
*[[Misty]] catches {{TP|Misty|Psyduck}} by accident.

;''[[EP028|Pokémon Fashion Flash]]''
*{{Ash}} and {{ashfr|his friends}} are on [[Scissor Street]] in [[Celadon City]].
*[[Brock]] meets [[Suzy]], a famous {{pkmn|breeder}} whom he admires greatly.
*[[Brock]] asks [[Suzy]] to teach him to be a great {{pkmn|breeder}}. She turns him down.
*[[Brock]] receives {{TP|Brock|Vulpix}} from [[Suzy]].

;''[[EP029|The Punchy Pokémon]]''
*{{Ash}} and [[Brock]] enter the [[P1 Grand Prix]] with {{TP|Brock|Geodude}} and {{AP|Primeape}}.
*{{Ash}} and {{AP|Primeape}} win the [[P1 Grand Prix]].
*{{Ash}} gives {{AP|Primeape}} to {{ka|Anthony}}.

;''[[EP030|Sparks Fly for Magnemite]]''
*{{Ash}} and {{ashfr|his friends}} arrive in [[Gringey City]].
*{{Ash}} catches {{AP|Muk}}.
*{{Ash}} sends {{AP|Muk}} to [[Professor Oak's Laboratory]].
*{{Ash}} and {{ashfr|his friends}} leave [[Gringey City]].

;''[[EP031|Dig Those Diglett]]''
*Several months have passed since [[EP001|the first episode]].
*{{Ash}} and {{ashfr|his friends}} are en route to [[Fuchsia City]].
*{{TP|Jessie|Ekans}} evolves into {{TP|Jessie|Arbok}}.
*{{TP|James|Koffing}} evolves into {{TP|James|Weezing}}.

;''[[EP032|The Ninja Poké-Showdown]]''
*{{Ash}} and {{ashfr|his friends}} arrive in [[Fuchsia City]].
*{{Ash}} goes to [[Fuchsia Gym]] and challenges the [[Gym Leader]], [[Koga]].
*{{Ash}}'s battle against [[Koga]] is interrupted by [[Team Rocket]].
*{{Ash}} rechallenges the [[Gym Leader]], [[Koga]]. He wins.
*[[Koga]] gives {{Ash}} the {{Badge|Soul}}.

;''[[EP033|The Flame Pokémon-athon]]''
*{{Ash}} and {{ashfr|his friends}} look for the [[Kanto Safari Zone|Safari Zone]] in [[Fuchsia City]]. They enter the Pokémon reserves surrounding the Safari Zone.

;''[[EP034|The Kangaskhan Kid]]''
*{{Ash}} and {{ashfr|his friends}} look for the [[Kanto Safari Zone|Safari Zone]] in [[Fuchsia City]]. They are still in the Pokémon reserves surrounding the Safari Zone.

;''[[EP035|The Legend of Dratini]]''
*{{Ash}} and {{ashfr|his friends}} enter the [[Kanto Safari Zone|Safari Zone]] in [[Fuchsia City]].
*{{Ash}} catches thirty {{AP|Tauros}}.
*{{Ash}} and {{ashfr|his friends}} leave the [[Kanto Safari Zone|Safari Zone]] and [[Fuchsia City]].

;''[[EP036|The Bridge Bike Gang]]''
*{{Ash}} and {{ashfr|his friends}} cross [[Route 17|Cycling Road]]. Their next [[Gym]] destination at this point is not clear.


;''[[EP039|Pikachu's Good-Bye]]''
*{{AP|Pikachu}} reveals that it would rather stay with {{Ash}} than wild {{p|Pikachu}}.

;''[[Holiday Hi-Jynx]]''
*It is [[Christmas]] Eve.
*{{Ash}} and {{ashfr|his friends}} help to save [[Santa Claus]] from [[Team Rocket]].


;''[[EP043|The March of the Exeggutor Squad]]''
*Ash's {{p|Charmander}} evolves into {{AP|Charmeleon|Charizard}}.


;''[[EP045|The Song of Jigglypuff]]''
*{{Ash}} and {{ashfr|his friends}} help a {{an|Jigglypuff}}.

;''[[EP046|Attack of the Prehistoric Pokémon]]''
*Ash's {{p|Charmeleon}} evolves into {{AP|Charizard}}.
*{{Ash}} finds an {{pkmn|egg}}. [[Brock]] starts taking care of it.


;''[[EP052|Princess Versus Princess]]''
*Chronologically, this episode actually takes place before ''[[EP049|So Near, Yet So Farfetch'd]]''. It was not aired in order.
*It is [[Princess Day]].
*[[Jessie]] catches {{TP|Jessie|Lickitung}}.


;''[[EP050|Who Gets to Keep Togepi?]]''
*The {{pkmn|egg}} hatches into {{TP|Misty|Togepi|Togetic}}.
*{{TP|Misty|Togepi|Togetic}} goes to [[Misty]], since it saw her right after hatching and believes she is its mother.

;''[[EP051|Bulbasaur's Mysterious Garden]]''
*{{AP|Bulbasaur}} reveals that it does not want to evolve into an {{p|Ivysaur}}.

;''[[EP053|The Purr-fect Hero]]''
*It is [[Kid's Day]].


;''[[EP055|Pokémon Paparazzi]]''
*{{Ash}} meets [[Todd Snap|Todd]].
*[[Todd Snap|Todd]] joins {{Ash}}.


;''[[EP057|The Breeding Center Secret]]''
*[[James]] finds his {{p|Weepinbell}} has evolved into {{TP|James|Victreebel}}.
*[[Todd Snap|Todd]] leaves {{Ash}}.


;''[[EP059|Volcanic Panic]]''
*{{Ash}} forfeits his match with [[Blaine]], not wanting {{AP|Pikachu}} to get hurt.
*[[Blaine]] gives {{Ash}} the {{Badge|Volcano}}.


;''[[EP061|The Misty Mermaid]]''
*[[Misty]] leaves {{TP|Misty|Horsea}} and {{TP|Misty|Starmie}} at the [[Cerulean Gym]].
*{{p|Seel}} evolves into {{OBP|Dewgong|Cerulean Gym}}.


;''[[EP063|The Battle of the Badge]]''
*A year has passed since [[EP001|the first episode]].
*[[Jessie]] and [[James]] give {{Ash}} the {{Badge|Earth}}.

;''[[EP064|It's Mr. Mime Time]]''
*{{Delia}} catches [[Mimey]].


;''[[EP066|The Evolution Solution]]''
*[[Jessie]] catches {{DL|List of Pokémon temporarily owned by Team Rocket|Shellder}}.
*[[Jessie]] releases {{DL|List of Pokémon temporarily owned by Team Rocket|Shellder}}.


;''[[EP071|To Master the Onixpected]]''
*{{Ash}} meets [[Bruno]].


;''[[EP074|All Fired Up]]''
*The [[Pokémon League]] has its opening ceremonies.

;''[[EP075|Round One - Begin!]]''
*{{AP|Krabby}} evolves into {{AP|Kingler}}.
*{{Ash}} defeats [[Mandi]] and wins his first round {{pkmn|battle}} at the [[Pokémon League]].

;''[[EP076|Fire and Ice]]''
*{{Ash}} defeats an unnamed trainer and wins his second round {{pkmn|battle}} at the [[Pokémon League]].
*{{Ash}} defeats [[Pete Pebbleman]] and wins his third round {{pkmn|battle}} at the [[Pokémon League]].

;''[[EP077|The Fourth Round Rumble]]''
*{{Gary}} loses his fourth round {{pkmn|battle}} at the [[Pokémon League]].
*{{Gary}} returns home to [[Pallet Town]].
*{{Ash}} defeats [[Jeanette]] and wins his fourth round {{pkmn|battle}} at the [[Pokémon League]].

;''[[EP078|A Friend In Deed]]''
*{{Ash}} meets [[Ritchie]].

;''[[EP079|Friend and Foe Alike]]''
*{{Ash}} loses to [[Ritchie]] in his fifth round {{pkmn|battle}} at the [[Pokémon League]].

;''[[EP080|Friends to the End]]''
*[[Ritchie]] loses in his quaterfinals round {{pkmn|battle}} at the [[Pokémon League]].

;''[[EP081|Pallet Party Panic]]''
*{{AP|Pidgeotto}} evolves into {{AP|Pidgeot}}.
*{{Ash}} [[Released Pokémon|releases]] {{AP|Pidgeot}}.

====[[Orange Archipelago|Orange Islands]]====
=====[[The Adventures in the Orange Islands|Season 2]]=====
;''[[EP082|A Scare in the Air]]''
*{{Ash}} and {{ashfr|his friends}} take a blimp to [[Valencia Island]].

;''[[EP083|Poké Ball Peril]]''
*{{Ash}} meets [[Professor Ivy]].
*{{Ash}} gets the [[GS Ball]].
*{{Ash}} decides to travel throughout the rest of the [[Orange Archipelago|Orange Islands]] and compete in the [[Orange League]] before returning to [[Pallet Town]] to deliver the [[GS Ball]] to [[Professor Oak]].
*[[Brock]] decides to stay on [[Valencia Island]] as [[Professor Ivy]]'s assistant.

;''[[EP084|The Lost Lapras]]''
*{{Ash}} and [[Misty]] crash land in {{an|Pokémon Park}} on [[Tangelo Island]].
*{{Ash}} meets {{Tracey}}.
*{{Ash}} catches {{AP|Lapras}}.
*{{Tracey}} joins {{Ash}} and [[Misty]].

;''[[EP085|Fit to be Tide]]''
*{{Ash}} arrives on [[Mikan Island]].
*[[Cissy]] gives {{Ash}} the {{Badge|Coral-Eye}}.


;''[[EP093|Navel Maneuvers]]''
*{{Ash}} arrives on [[Navel Island]].
*[[Danny]] gives {{Ash}} the {{Badge|Sea Ruby}}.

;''[[EP094|Snack Attack!]]''
*{{Ash}} catches {{AP|Snorlax}}.


;''[[EP097|Tracey Gets Bugged]]''
*{{Ash}} arrives on [[Murcott Island]].
*{{Tracey}} catches {{TP|Tracey|Scyther}}.


;''[[EP099|The Mandarin Island Miss Match]]''
*{{Ash}} arrives on [[Mandarin Island So.]].
*{{Ash}} meets [[Lorelei|Prima]].


;''[[EP103|Misty Meets Her Match!]]''
*{{Ash}} arrives on [[Trovita Island]].
*[[Rudy]] gives {{Ash}} the {{Badge|Spike Shell}}.

;''[[EP105|Charizard Chills]]''
*[[Ash's Charizard]] begins to obey {{Ash}}.


;''[[EP108|Pokémon Double Trouble]]''
*{{Ash}} arrives on [[Kumquat Island]].
*[[Luana]] gives {{Ash}} the {{Badge|Jade Star}}.


;''[[EP110|The Stun Spore Detour]]''
*[[Misty]] catches {{TP|Misty|Poliwag}}.

;''[[EP111|Hello Pummelo]]''
*{{Ash}} arrives on [[Pummelo Island]].
*{{Ash}} challenges {{OBP|Drake|Orange League}}.

;''[[EP112|Enter The Dragonite]]''
*{{Ash}} defeats {{OBP|Drake|Orange League}}.
*{{OBP|Drake|Orange League}} gives {{Ash}} the [[Winner's Trophy|Orange League Trophy]].

;''[[EP113|Viva Las Lapras]]''
*{{Ash}} [[Released Pokémon|releases]] {{AP|Lapras}}.


;''[[EP115|A Tents Situation]]''
*''Pre-episode''
**[[Brock]]'s heart is broken by [[Professor Ivy]].
**[[Brock]] leaves [[Valencia Island]].
**[[Brock]] is found by {{Delia}} outside of [[Pallet Town]].
**[[Brock]] starts helping {{Delia}} around the house.
*{{Ash}} returns to [[Pallet Town]].
*{{Ash}} reunites with [[Brock]].

;''[[EP116|The Rivalry Revival]]''
*{{Ash}} loses a battle to {{Gary}}, with his {{AP|Pikachu}} being defeated by {{TP|Gary|Eevee|Umbreon}}.
*{{Gary}} leaves [[Pallet Town]] to go to [[Johto]].
*[[Brock]] rejoins {{Ash}} and [[Misty]].
*{{Tracey}} decides to stay in [[Pallet Town]] to be [[Professor Oak]]'s assistant.
*{{Ash}} receives a new version of the [[Pokédex]], upgraded for [[Johto]].
*{{Ash}} and {{ashfr|his friends}} leave [[Pallet Town]] to go to [[Johto]].

====[[Johto]]====
=====[[The Johto Journeys|Season 3]]=====

;''[[EP117|Don't Touch That 'Dile]]''
*{{Ash}} and {{ashfr|his friends}} arrive in [[Johto]].
*{{Ash}} and {{ashfr|his friends}} see a {{p|Suicune}}.

;''[[EP118|The Double Trouble Header]]''
*{{Ash}} meets {{an|Casey}}.

;''[[EP119|A Sappy Ending]]''
*{{Ash}} catches {{AP|Heracross}}.





;''[[EP124|Snubbull Snobbery]]''
*{{TP|Madame Muchmoney|Snubbull}} runs away from home and starts following [[Team Rocket]].


;''[[EP126|Chikorita Rescue]]''
*{{Ash}} catches {{AP|Chikorita}}.





;''[[EP131|Fighting Flyer with Fire!]]''
*[[Falkner]] gives {{Ash}} the {{Badge|Zephyr}}.



;''[[EP134|Charizard's Burning Ambition]]''
*{{Ash}} leaves {{AP|Charizard}} at [[Charicific Valley]].







;''[[EP141|Good 'Quil Hunting]]''
*{{Ash}} catches {{AP|Cyndaquil}}.

;''[[EP142|A Shadow of a Drought]]''
*{{Ash}} meets [[Kurt]].

;''[[EP143|Goin' Apricorn]]''
*{{Ash}}, [[Misty]], and [[Brock]] each receive a [[Poké Ball|Fast Ball]].
*[[Brock]] catches {{TP|Brock|Pineco|Forretress}}.

;''[[EP144|Gettin' The Bugs Out]]''
*[[Bugsy]] gives {{Ash}} the {{Badge|Hive}}.
*{{Ash}} and [[Misty]] both receive a [[Poké Ball|Lure Ball]].
*[[Brock]] receives a [[Poké Ball|Heavy Ball]].


;''[[EP146|Tricks Of The Trade]]''
*[[Jessie]] accidentally trades {{TP|Jessie|Lickitung}} to {{jo|Benny}} for {{TP|Jessie|Wobbuffet}}.

;''[[EP147|The Fire-ring Squad]]''
*{{AP|Squirtle}} returns to the [[Squirtle Squad]].




;''[[EP151|The Totodile Duel]]''
*{{Ash}} catches {{AP|Totodile}}.
*Misty's {{p|Poliwag}} evolves into {{TP|Misty|Poliwhirl|Politoed}}.



;''[[EP154|Fowl Play]]''
*{{Ash}} catches {{AP|Noctowl}}.




;''[[PK07|Pikachu & Pichu]]''
*{{Ash}} states that this is the anniversary of the day he and {{AP|Pikachu}} first met.

=====[[Johto League Champions|Season 4]]=====

;''[[EP159|A Dairy Tale Ending]]''
*[[Whitney]] gives {{Ash}} the {{Badge|Plain}}.


;''[[EP161|The Bug Stops Here]]''
*{{Ash}} catches {{TP|Casey|Beedrill}}.
*{{Ash}} wins the [[Bug-Catching Contest]].
*{{Ash}} receives a {{DL|Evolutionary stone|Sun Stone}}.
*{{Ash}} gives {{TP|Casey|Beedrill}} to {{an|Casey}}.




;''[[EP165|Hassle In The Castle]]''
*Brock's {{p|Zubat}} evolves into {{TP|Brock|Golbat|Crobat}}.



;''[[EP168|Hook, Line and Stinker]]''
*{{Ash}} catches {{p|Seaking}}.
*[[Misty]] catches {{p|Seaking}}.
*[[Misty]] wins the [[Seaking Catching Day]] Competition.
*{{Ash}} releases {{p|Seaking}}.
*[[Misty]] releases {{p|Seaking}}.

;''[[EP169|Beauty and the Breeder]]''
*[[Brock]] returns {{TP|Brock|Vulpix}} to [[Suzy]].


;''[[EP171|Power Play]]''
*''Pre-episode''
**Gary's Eevee evolves into {{TP|Gary|Umbreon}}.




;''[[EP175|Trouble With Snubbull]]''
*Madame Muchmoney's {{p|Snubbull}} evolves into {{TP|Madame Muchmoney|Granbull}}.
*{{TP|Madame Muchmoney|Granbull}} returns to [[Madame Muchmoney]].







;''[[EP182|From Ghost to Ghost]]''
*[[Morty]] gives {{Ash}} the {{Badge|Fog}}.

;''[[EP183|Trouble's Brewing]]''
*{{Ash}} meets [[Sakura]].




;''[[EP187|Moving Pictures]]''
*[[Todd Snap]] rejoins {{Ash}}.
*{{Ash}} uses his [[Evolutionary stone#Sun Stone|Sun Stone]].


;''[[EP189|Freeze Frame]]''
*Todd leaves {{Ash}}.





;''[[EP194|The Ring Masters]]''
*{{Ash}} wins the [[Sumo Conference|Pokémon Sumo Competition]].
*{{Ash}} receives a {{DL|Held item|King's Rock}}.


;''[[EP196|Control Freak]]''
*Brock's {{p|Golbat}} evolves into {{TP|Brock|Crobat}}.



;''[[EP199|Current Events!]]''
*Ash's Chikorita evolves into {{AP|Bayleef}}.










;''[[EP209|Machoke, Machoke Man]]''
*[[Chuck]] gives {{Ash}} the {{Badge|Storm}}.

=====[[Master Quest|Season 5]]=====
;''[[EP210|Around the Whirlpool]]''
*{{Ash}} and {{ashfr|his friends}} begin traveling around the [[Whirl Islands]].



;''[[EP213|A Corsola Caper]]''
*[[Misty]] catches {{TP|Misty|Corsola}}.


;''[[EP215|Octillery The Outcast!]]''
*{{Ash}} and [[Misty]] pass the qualifying match to enter into the [[Whirl Cup]].

;''[[EP216|Dueling Heroes]]''
*{{Ash}} and [[Misty]] each win their first two battles in the [[Whirl Cup]].
*{{Ash}} and [[Misty]] learn they will be facing each other in the quarterfinals.

;''[[EP217|The Perfect Match]]''
*{{Ash}} loses to [[Misty]] in the quarterfinals.
*[[Misty]] loses to [[Trinity]] in the semifinals.
*[[Trinity]] loses to the [[Whirl Cup]] Champion.


;''[[EP220|The Mystery is History!]]''
*{{Ash}} encounters [[Ritchie]] again.
*[[Team Rocket]] traps the child {{p|Lugia}}.

;''[[EP221|A Parent Trapped!]]''
*''Pre-episode''
**[[Zippo]] evolves into {{p|Charmeleon}}.
*[[Team Rocket]] traps the parent {{p|Lugia}}.

;''[[EP222|A Promise is a Promise]]''
*The parent and child {{p|Lugia}} are rescued from [[Team Rocket]].
*{{Ash}} parts ways with [[Ritchie]] again.

;''[[EP223|Throwing in the Noctowl!]]''
*{{Ash}} and {{ashfr|his friends}} leave the [[Whirl Islands]].

;''[[EP224|Nerves of Steelix]]''
*[[Jasmine]] gives {{Ash}} the {{Badge|Mineral}}.

;''[[EP225|Bulbasaur... the Ambassador!]]''
*{{Ash}} sends {{AP|Bulbasaur}} to [[Professor Oak's Laboratory]].

;''[[EP226|Espeon Not Included!]]''
*''Pre-episode''
**Sakura's {{p|Eevee}} evolves into {{TP|Sakura|Espeon}}.
*{{Ash}} encounters [[Sakura]] again.

;''[[EP227|For Ho-Oh the Bells Toll]]''
*{{Ash}} meets [[Eusine]].
*{{Ash}} and {{ashfr|his friends}} see a {{p|Suicune}}.
*[[Eusine]] tries and fails to catch {{p|Suicune}}.

;''[[EP228|Extreme Pokémon!]]''
*{{Ash}} and {{Gary}} enter the [[Extreme Pokémon Race]].
*{{Ash}} wins the [[Extreme Pokémon Race]].
*{{Ash}} receives an {{pkmn|egg}}.


;''[[EP230|Hatching a Plan!]]''
*{{Ash}}'s {{pkmn|egg}} hatches into {{AP|Phanpy|Donphan}}.

;''[[EP231|Dues and Don'ts]]''
*{{OBP|Delibird|Team Rocket}} begins following [[Team Rocket]].




;''[[EP235|Talkin' 'Bout an Evolution]]''
*{{Ash}} meets [[Lance]].

;''[[EP236|Rage Of Innocence]]''
*[[Lance]] catches the [[red Gyarados]].
*{{Ash}} meets [[Pryce]].


;''[[EP238|Nice Pryce Baby]]''
*[[Pryce]] gives {{Ash}} the {{Badge|Glacier}} by forfeit.



;''[[EP241|Hocus Pokémon]]''
*{{Ash}} turns into a [[Ashachu|Pikachu]].

;''[[EP242|As Clear As Crystal]]''
*{{Ash}} turns back into a human.
*{{Ash}} and {{ashfr|his friends}} see a {{p|Zapdos}}.





;''[[EP247|Outrageous Fortunes]]''
*Misty's {{p|Poliwhirl}} evolves into {{TP|Misty|Politoed}} with {{Ash}}'s {{DL|Held item|King's Rock}}.




;''[[EP251|Beauty is Skin Deep]]''
*{{Ash}} and {{ashfr|his friends}} arrive in [[Blackthorn City]].


;''[[EP253|Great Bowls of Fire]]''
*{{AP|Charizard}} returns to {{Ash}}.

;''[[EP254|Better Eight Than Never]]''
*[[Clair]] gives {{Ash}} the {{Badge|Rising}}.
*{{AP|Charizard}} returns to the [[Charicific Valley]].

;''[[EP255|Why? Wynaut!]]''
*{{Ash}} learns about the [[Silver Conference]] from [[Clair]].


;''[[EP257|Lapras of Luxury]]''
*{{Ash}} encounters his {{AP|Lapras}} again.
*{{Ash}} agrees to deliver an {{pkmn|egg}} to [[Professor Elm]].

;''[[EP258|Hatch Me If You Can!]]''
*The {{pkmn|egg}} hatches into {{AP|Larvitar}}.
*{{Ash}} agrees to take {{AP|Larvitar}} to [[Mt. Silver]].

;''[[EP259|Entei at Your Own Risk]]''
*Brock's {{p|Pineco}} evolves into {{TP|Brock|Forretress}}.
*{{Ash}} and {{ashfr|his friends}} see an {{p|Entei}}.


;''[[EP261|Here's Lookin' at You, Elekid!]]''
*''Pre-episode''
**Casey's {{p|Bayleef}} evolves into {{TP|Casey|Meganium}}.
*{{Ash}} meets {{an|Casey}} again.
*[[James]] trades {{TP|James|Victreebel}} to the [[Magikarp salesman]] for a {{p|Weepinbell}}.
*James's second {{p|Weepinbell}} evolves into [[List of Pokémon temporarily owned by Team Rocket#Victreebel|Victreebel]].
*The two {{TP|James|Victreebel}} fall in love and run off together.
*{{an|Casey}} catches {{DL|Casey (anime)|Elekid}}.


;''[[EP263|Address Unown!]]''
*{{p|Unown}} shows {{Ash}} and {{ashfr|his friends}} the memories of {{AP|Larvitar}}.

;''[[EP264|Mother Of All Battles!]]''
*{{AP|Larvitar}} is returned to its {{p|Tyranitar|mother}}.

;''[[EP265|Pop Goes The Sneasel!]]''
*{{Ash}} meets {{jo|Harrison}}.
*{{jo|Harrison}} catches {{p|Sneasel}}.

;''[[EP266|A Claim to Flame!]]''
*{{Ash}}, {{Gary}} and {{jo|Harrison}} qualify for the [[Silver Conference]].
*The [[Silver Conference]] begins.

;''[[EP267|Love, Pokémon Style!]]''
*{{AP|Squirtle}} returns to {{Ash}}.
*{{Ash}} defeats [[Macey]] in the preliminary round of the [[Silver Conference]].

;''[[EP268|Tie One On!]]''
*[[Macey]] defeats [[Vincent|Jackson]] in the preliminary round of the [[Silver Conference]].
*{{Ash}} and [[Vincent|Jackson]] have a draw in the preliminary round of the [[Silver Conference]].
*{{Ash}}, {{Gary}}, and {{jo|Harrison}} qualify for the finals of the [[Silver Conference]].

;''[[EP269|The Ties That Bind]]''
*{{AP|Charizard}} returns to {{Ash}}.
*{{jo|Harrison}} advances to the second round of the finals of the [[Silver Conference]].
*{{Ash}} starts his battle against {{Gary}}.

;''[[EP270|Can't Beat the Heat!]]''
*{{Ash}} defeats {{Gary}}.
*{{Ash}} advances to the second round of the finals of the [[Silver Conference]].
*{{Ash}} starts his battle against {{jo|Harrison}}.

;''[[EP271|Playing with Fire!!]]''
*{{Ash}} continues his battle against {{jo|Harrison}}.

;''[[EP272|Johto Photo Finish]]''
*{{jo|Harrison}} defeats {{Ash}}.
*{{AP|Squirtle}} returns to the [[Squirtle Squad]].
*{{AP|Charizard}} returns to the [[Charicific Valley]].
*{{jo|Harrison}} loses in the semi-finals of the [[Silver Conference]].
*[[Jon Dickson]] wins the [[Silver Conference]].
*{{jo|Harrison}} suggests {{Ash}} should go to [[Hoenn]].
*{{jo|Harrison}} goes to the [[Indigo League]].
*{{Gary}} leaves for [[Pallet Town]].
*{{Ash}} and {{ashfr|his friends}} leave for [[Pallet Town]].

;''[[EP273|Gotta Catch Ya Later!]]''
*{{Ash}} and {{ashfr|his friends}} arrive in [[Viridian City]].
*[[Misty]] is reappointed [[Gym Leader]] of the [[Cerulean Gym]] by {{an|Daisy}}, [[Violet]], and {{ka|Lily}}.
*[[Misty]] receives her repaired [[bicycle|bike]] from [[Nurse Joy]].
*[[Misty]] leaves {{Ash}} to return to the [[Cerulean Gym]].
*[[Brock]] leaves {{Ash}} to return to the [[Pewter Gym]].
*{{Ash}} returns to [[Pallet Town]].
*{{Ash}} sees {{an|Ho-oh}} again.
*{{Ash}} leaves all his [[Pokémon]] but {{AP|Pikachu}} at [[Professor Oak's Laboratory]].
*{{Ash}} changes into his second outfit.
*{{Ash}} leaves for [[Hoenn]].

;''[[EP274|Hoenn Alone...!]]''
*{{Ash}} makes his way to [[Hoenn]].
*{{AP|Pikachu}} becomes ill.

===[[Advanced Generation series|Advanced Generation]]===
====[[Hoenn]]====
=====[[Pokémon Advanced|Season 6]]=====
;''[[AG001|Get the Show on the Road]]''
*''Pre-episode''
**{{an|May}} turns 10.
*{{Ash}} arrives in [[Hoenn]].
*{{an|May}} arrives in [[Littleroot Town]].
*{{Ash}} meets {{an|May}}.
*[[Team Rocket]] gives {{AP|Pikachu}} an outlet to discharge, which recovers it from its illness.
*{{AP|Pikachu}} destroys {{an|May}}'s bike.
*{{an|May}} receives a [[Pokédex]] and her [[starter Pokémon]] from [[Professor Birch]]. She chooses {{TP|May|Torchic|Blaziken}}.
*{{an|May}} joins {{Ash}}.
*{{Ash}} and {{an|May}} leave [[Littleroot Town]].

;''[[AG002|A Ruin with a View]]''
*{{Ash}} and {{an|May}} arrive in [[Oldale Town]].
*[[Giovanni]] assigns [[Jessie]] and [[James]] to start a [[Team Rocket]] branch in [[Hoenn]].
*{{Ash}} and {{an|May}} leave [[Oldale Town]].

;''[[H001|A Family That Battles Together, Stays Together!]]''
*''Pre-episode''
**[[Lola]] returns to [[Pewter City]].
**[[Lola]] redecorates the [[Pewter Gym]], remodeling it to suit {{type2|Water}} [[Pokémon]].
**{{ka|Flint}} closes the [[Pewter Gym]] in embarassment.
*[[Brock]] returns to [[Pewter City]].
*[[Brock]] fights to return [[Pewter Gym]] to a {{type2|Rock}} [[Gym]].
*[[Brock]] gives [[Forrest]] his {{TP|Brock|Onix}}, {{TP|Brock|Geodude}}, and {{TP|Brock|Crobat}}.
*[[Brock]] changes into his second outfit.
*[[Brock]] leaves for [[Hoenn]].

;''[[AG003|There's no Place Like Hoenn]]''
*{{Ash}} and {{an|May}} arrive in [[Petalburg City]].
*{{Ash}} meets [[Max]].
*{{Ash}} learns [[Norman]] is the father of {{an|May}} and [[Max]].
*[[Max]] joins {{Ash}}.
*[[Max]] gets a [[PokéNav]].
*{{Ash}} and {{ashfr|his friends}} leave [[Petalburg City]].

;''[[H002|Cerulean Blues]]''
*[[Misty]] returns to the duties of being [[Gym Leader]] of the [[Cerulean Gym]].
*[[Misty]] regains {{TP|Misty|Horsea}}, {{TP|Misty|Starmie}}, and the other [[Pokémon]] of the [[Cerulean Gym]].
*[[Misty]] tames {{TP|Misty|Gyarados}}.
*[[Cerulean Gym]] passes the inspection of the [[Pokémon League]].

;''[[AG004|You Never Can Taillow]]''
*{{Ash}} and {{ashfr|his friends}} arrive in [[Petalburg Woods]].
*{{an|May}} and [[Max]] meet [[Brock]].
*[[Brock]] rejoins {{Ash}}.
*{{Ash}} catches {{AP|Taillow}}.



;''[[AG006|A Poached Ego!]]''
*[[Jessie]] [[Released Pokémon|releases]] {{TP|Jessie|Arbok}}.
*[[James]] [[Released Pokémon|releases]] {{TP|James|Weezing}}.
*[[James]] catches {{TP|James|Cacnea}}.

;''[[AG007|Tree's a Crowd]]''
*{{Ash}} catches {{AP|Treecko}}.


;''[[AG008|A Tail with a Twist]]''
*[[Jessie]] catches {{TP|Jessie|Seviper}}.




;''[[AG012|The Lotad Lowdown]]''
*[[Brock]] catches {{TP|Brock|Lotad}}.

;''[[AG013|All Things Bright and Beautifly!]]''
*{{an|May}} becomes interested in [[Pokémon Contest]]s.
*{{Ash}} starts teaching {{AP|Pikachu}} {{m|Iron Tail}}.


;''[[AG014|All in a Day's Wurmple]]''
*{{an|May}} catches {{TP|May|Wurmple}}.
*[[Jessie]] catches {{TP|Jessie|Wurmple}}.


;''[[AG016|Winner by a Nosepass]]''
*{{an|May}} decides to compete in [[Pokémon Contest]]s instead of at [[Gym]]s.
*[[Roxanne]] gives {{Ash}} the {{Badge|Stone}}.


;''[[AG022|A Hole Lotta Trouble]]''
*{{Ash}} meets [[Steven Stone]].

;''[[AG023|Gone Corphishin']]''
*{{Ash}} catches {{AP|Corphish}}.

;''[[AG024|A Corphish Out of Water]]''
*May's {{p|Wurmple}} evolves into {{TP|May|Silcoon|Beautifly}}.
*Jessie's {{p|Wurmple}} evolves into {{TP|Jessie|Cascoon|Dustox}}.

;''[[AG025|A Mudkip Mission]]''
*[[Brock]] catches a {{TP|Brock|Mudkip}}.


;''[[AG028|Seeing is Believing]]''
*May's {{p|Silcoon}} evolves into {{TP|May|Beautifly}}.
*Jessie's {{p|Cascoon}} evolves into {{TP|Jessie|Dustox}}.


;''[[AG031|Just One of the Geysers]]''
*[[Brawly]] gives {{Ash}} the {{Badge|Knuckle}}.


;''[[AG033|Now that's Flower Power!]]''
*{{an|May}} meets [[Drew]].
*{{an|May}} gets a [[Pokéblock]] case.


;''[[AG035|Win, Lose or Drew!]]''
*{{an|May}} enters her first [[Pokémon Contest]].
*{{an|May}} loses to [[Drew]].
*[[Drew]] loses to {{ho|Robert}}.


;''[[AG040|Watt's with Wattson]]''
*{{Ash}} battles the [[Gym Leader]] of [[Mauville City]], [[Wattson]] and wins.
*[[Wattson]] gives {{Ash}} the {{Badge|Dynamo}}.


=====[[Pokémon: Advanced Challenge|Season 7]]=====
;''[[AG041|What You Seed is What You Get]]''
*{{AP|Treecko}} learns {{m|Bullet Seed}}.



;''[[AG044|The Princess and the Togepi]]''
*[[Misty]] rejoins {{Ash}}.

;''[[AG045|A Togepi Mirage!]]''
*[[Misty]]'s {{p|Togepi}} evolves into {{TP|Misty|Togetic}}.
*[[Misty]] {{pkmn2|released|releases}} {{TP|Misty|Togetic}} so it can stay and protect the [[Mirage Kingdom]].
*[[Misty]] returns to [[Cerulean City]].


;''[[AG047|I Feel Skitty!]]''
*{{an|May}} catches {{TP|May|Skitty}}.




;''[[AG051|Come What May!]]''
*{{an|May}} wins the [[Fallarbor Town]] [[Pokémon Contest]].
*{{an|May}} wins her first [[ribbon]].





;''[[AG056|Going, Going, Yawn]]''
*[[Flannery]] gives {{Ash}} the {{Badge|Heat}}.


;''[[AG058|All Torkoal, No Play]]''
*{{Ash}} catches {{AP|Torkoal}}.


;''[[AG060|Delcatty Got Your Tongue]]''
*{{TP|May|Skitty}} learns {{m|Blizzard}}.


;''[[AG062|Disguise Da Limit]]''
*{{an|May}} wins the [[Verdanturf Town]] [[Pokémon Contest]].
*{{an|May}} wins her second [[ribbon]].

;''[[AG063|Take the Lombre Home]]''
*Brock's {{p|Lotad}} evolves into {{TP|Brock|Lombre|Ludicolo}}.



;''[[AG066|Exploud and Clear]]''
*Ash's {{p|Treecko}} evolves into {{AP|Grovyle}}.




;''[[AG070|Balance of Power]]''
*[[Norman]] gives {{Ash}} the {{Badge|Balance}}.

;''[[AG071|A Six Pack Attack!]]''
*{{an|May}} and [[Max]] meet [[Professor Oak]].


;''[[AG073|Grass Hysteria!]]''
*{{an|May}} catches {{TP|May|Bulbasaur}}.

;''[[AG074|Hokey Poké Balls!]]''
*{{Ash}} transfers {{AP|Bulbasaur}} from [[Professor Oak's Laboratory]].
*{{Ash}} transfers {{AP|Bulbasaur}} back to [[Professor Oak's Laboratory]].






;''[[AG080|That's Just Swellow]]''
*{{Ash}}'s {{p|Taillow}} evolves into {{AP|Swellow}}.
*{{Ash}} wins the [[PokéRinger]] competition.
*[[James]] gets second place in the [[PokéRinger]] competition.


;''[[AG082|A Shroomish Skirmish]]''
*May's Torchic evolves into {{TP|May|Combusken}}.


;''[[AG084|Who's Flying Now?]]''
*[[James]] catches {{TP|James|Chimecho}}.

;''[[AG085|Sky High Gym Battle!]]''
*[[Winona]] gives {{Ash}} the {{Badge|Feather}}.





;''[[AG090|Pokéblock, Stock and Berry]]''
*{{Ash}} and {{ashfr|his friends}} learn how to make [[Pokéblock]]s.

;''[[AG091|Lessons in Lilycove]]''
*{{AP|Swellow}} learns {{m|Aerial Ace}}.
*{{an|May}} wins the [[Lilycove City]] [[Pokémon Contest]].
*{{an|May}} wins her third [[ribbon]].


=====[[Pokémon: Advanced Battle|Season 8]]=====





;''[[AG097|Gaining Groudon]]''
*{{p|Kyogre}} is awakened.
*{{AP|Pikachu}} absorbs the [[Blue Orb]].
*{{p|Groudon}} is awakened.

;''[[AG098|The Scuffle of Legends]]''
*[[Archie]] absorbs the [[Red Orb]].
*{{p|Groudon}} and {{p|Kyogre}} end their fight.


;''[[AG100|Solid as a Solrock]]''
*[[Liza & Tate|Liza and Tate]] give {{Ash}} the {{Badge|Mind}}.

;''[[AG101|Vanity Affair]]''
*{{Ash}} meets {{OBP|Drake|Elite Four}}.

;''[[AG102|Where's Armaldo?]]''
*{{TP|May|Bulbasaur}} learns {{m|Petal Dance}}.

;''[[AG103|A Cacturne for the Worse]]''
*{{an|May}} wins the [[Izabe Island]] [[Pokémon Contest]].
*{{an|May}} wins her fourth [[ribbon]].


;''[[AG105|Once in a Mawile]]''
*Brock's Lombre evolves into {{TP|Brock|Ludicolo}}.



;''[[AG108|Let it Snow, Let it Snow, Let it Snorunt]]''
*{{Ash}} catches {{AP|Snorunt}}.



;''[[AG111|Eight Ain't Enough]]''
*[[Juan]] gives {{Ash}} the {{Badge|Rain}}.





;''[[AG116|Pacifidlog Jam]]''
*{{an|May}} wins the [[Pacifidlog Town]] [[Pokémon Contest]].
*{{an|May}} wins her fifth [[ribbon]].

;''[[AG117|Berry, Berry Interesting]]''
*{{an|May}} catches {{TP|May|Munchlax}}.

;''[[AG118|Less is Morrison]]''
*{{Ash}} meets [[Morrison]].



;''[[AG121|Hi Ho Silver Wind!]]''
*{{an|May}}, [[Drew]], and [[Harley]] enter the [[Hoenn]] [[Grand Festival]].
*{{an|May}}, [[Drew]], and [[Harley]] make it through the first round of the [[Hoenn]] [[Grand Festival]].

;''[[AG122|Deceit and Assist]]''
*{{an|May}}, [[Drew]], and [[Harley]] make it through the second round of the [[Hoenn]] [[Grand Festival]].

;''[[AG123|Rhapsody in Drew]]''
*[[Harley]] is defeated by {{an|May}} in the third round of the [[Hoenn]] [[Grand Festival]].
*Ash's Snorunt evolves into {{AP|Glalie}}.
*{{an|May}} is defeated by [[Drew]] in the third round of the [[Hoenn]] [[Grand Festival]].
*[[Drew]] is defeated by {{ho|Robert}} in the third round of the [[Hoenn]] [[Grand Festival]].
*{{ho|Robert}} wins the [[Hoenn]] [[Grand Festival]].

;''[[AG124|Island Time]]''
*{{Ash}} and {{ashfr|his friends}} travel from [[Slateport City]] to [[Ever Grande City]].

;''[[AG125|Like a Meowth to a Flame]]''
*{{Ash}} meets {{ho|Tyson}}.

;''[[AG126|Saved by the Beldum]]''
*The [[Ever Grande Conference]] begins.
*[[Morrison]]'s Beldum evolves into {{TP|Morrison|Metang}}.
*{{Ash}}, [[Morrison]], and {{ho|Tyson}} make it past the preliminary round of the [[Ever Grande Conference]].

;''[[AG127|From Brags to Riches]]''
*{{Ash}} and [[Morrison]] advance to the next round of the [[Ever Grande Conference]].

;''[[AG128|Shocks and Bonds]]''
*{{Ash}}, [[Morrison]], and {{ho|Tyson}} advance to the next round of the [[Ever Grande Conference]].

;''[[AG129|A Judgment Brawl]]''
*{{Ash}}, [[Morrison]], and {{ho|Tyson}} advance to the next round of the [[Ever Grande Conference]].
*{{Ash}} begins his battle against [[Morrison]].

;''[[AG130|Choose It or Loose It!]]''
*{{Ash}} defeats [[Morrison]] and advances to the next round of the [[Ever Grande Conference]].
*{{Ash}} begins his battle against {{ho|Tyson}}.

;''[[AG131|At the End of the Fray]]''
*{{Ash}} is defeated by {{ho|Tyson}}.
*{{ho|Tyson}} becomes the [[League Champion|champion]] of the [[Hoenn League]].

;''[[AG132|The Scheme Team]]''
*''Pre-episode''
**{{TP|Tracey|Marill}} has an [[Pokémon egg|egg]].
**{{Tracey}} gives the [[Pokémon egg|egg]] to [[Misty]].
**The [[Pokémon egg|egg]] hatches into {{TP|Misty|Azurill}}.
*{{Ash}} mentions that a few months have passed since he first met {{an|May}} and [[Max]].
*{{an|May}} and [[Max]] leave {{Ash}} to return to [[Petalburg City]].
*{{Ash}} and [[Brock]] leave [[Hoenn]] and return to [[Kanto]].
*[[Brock]] leaves {{Ash}} to return to [[Pewter City]].
*{{Ash}} arrives in [[Viridian City]].
*{{Ash}} meets [[Scott]].
*{{Ash}} challenges [[Agatha]] at the [[Viridian Gym]] and loses.
*[[Scott]] tells {{Ash}} about the {{Gdis|Battle Frontier|III}}.
*{{Ash}} leaves [[Viridian City]].
*{{Ash}} returns to [[Pallet Town]].
*{{Ash}} finds [[Misty]] waiting for him at home.
*[[Professor Birch]] and [[Max]] go to [[Pallet Town]] and meet {{Ash}} there.

====[[Kanto]] ({{Gdis|Battle Frontier|III}})====
=====[[Pokémon: Advanced Battle|Season 8]]=====

;''[[AG133|The Right Place and the Right Mime]]''
*''Pre-episode''
**{{an|May}} leaves {{TP|May|Beautifly}} and {{TP|May|Skitty}} at the [[Petalburg Gym]].
*{{an|May}} arrives in [[Pallet Town]].
*{{an|May}} catches {{TP|May|Squirtle}}.
*{{an|May}} leaves {{TP|May|Bulbasaur}} at [[Professor Oak's Laboratory]].
*{{Ash}} leaves {{AP|Torkoal}} and {{AP|Glalie}} at [[Professor Oak's Laboratory]].
*{{Ash}} takes {{AP|Phanpy}} from [[Professor Oak's Laboratory]].
*{{Ash}} leaves [[Pallet Town]] with [[Misty]], {{an|May}}, and [[Max]].
*[[Brock]] rejoins {{Ash}}.

;''[[AG134|A Real Cleffa-Hanger]]''
*[[Misty]] returns to [[Cerulean City]].

;''[[AG135|Numero Uno Articuno]]''
*{{AP|Charizard}} returns to {{Ash}}.

;''[[AG136|The Symbol Life]]''
*{{FB|Factory Head|Noland}} gives {{Ash}} the [[Symbol|Knowledge Symbol]].
*{{AP|Charizard}} returns to [[Charicific Valley]].








;''[[AG144|A Hurdle for Squirtle]]''
*{{an|May}} wins the [[Saffron City]] [[Pokémon Contest]].
*{{an|May}} wins her first [[Kanto]] [[ribbon]].


=====[[Pokémon: Battle Frontier|Season 9]]=====


;''[[AG147|Sweet Baby James!]]''
*[[James]] leaves {{TP|James|Chimecho}} at a family mansion to recover.
*[[James]] catches {{TP|James|Mime Jr.}}

;''[[AG148|A Chip Off the Old Brock]]''
*{{TP|Brock|Mudkip}} evolves into {{TP|Brock|Marshtomp}}.

;''[[AG149|Wheel...of Frontier!]]''
*{{FB|Arena Tycoon|Greta}} gives {{Ash}} the [[Symbol|Guts Symbol]].

;''[[AG150|May's Egg-cellent Adventure!]]''
*{{TP|May|Munchlax}} learns {{m|Focus Punch}}.
*{{AP|Pikachu}} learns {{m|Volt Tackle}}.
*{{an|May}} receives an {{pkmn|egg}}.

;''[[AG151|Weekend Warrior]]''
*{{an|May}} wins the {{ka|Silver Town}} [[Pokémon Contest]].
*{{an|May}} wins her second [[Kanto]] [[ribbon]].


;''[[AG153|Tactic Theatrics!]]''
*{{FB|Dome Ace|Tucker}} gives {{Ash}} the [[Symbol|Tactics Symbol]].

;''[[AG154|Reversing the Charges]]''
*{{AP|Phanpy}} evolves into {{AP|Donphan}}.


;''[[AG156|From Cradle to Save]]''
*[[Brock]] catches {{TP|Brock|Bonsly}}.

;''[[AG157|Time-Warp Heals All Wounds]]''
*{{an|May}}'s {{pkmn|egg}} hatches into {{TP|May|Eevee}}.

;''[[AG158|Queen of the Serpentine]]''
*{{FB|Pike Queen|Lucy}} gives {{Ash}} the [[Symbol|Luck Symbol]].


;''[[AG160|Harley Rides Again]]''
*[[Harley]] wins the [[Wisteria Town]] [[Pokémon Contest]].
*{{TP|May|Munchlax}} makes its contest debut.

;''[[AG161|Odd Pokémon Out]]''
*{{AP|Grovyle}} evolves into {{AP|Sceptile}}.

;''[[AG162|Spontaneous Combusken]]''
*{{an|May}} wins the [[Chrysanthemum Island]] [[Pokémon Contest]].
*{{an|May}} wins her third [[Kanto]] [[ribbon]].


;''[[AG164|Ka Boom with a View]]''
*{{FB|Palace Maven|Spenser}} gives {{Ash}} the [[Symbol|Spirits Symbol]].



;''[[AG167|What I Did for Love]]''
*{{an|May}} wins the [[Abelia Town]] [[Pokémon Contest]].
*{{an|May}} wins her fourth [[Kanto]] [[ribbon]].



;''[[AG170|Second Time's the Charm]]''
*{{FB|Salon Maiden|Anabel}} gives {{Ash}} the [[Symbol|Ability Symbol]].





;''[[AG175|Going for Choke]]''
*{{an|May}} wins the {{to|Mulberry}} [[Pokémon Contest]].
*{{an|May}} wins her fifth [[Kanto]] [[ribbon]].


;''[[AG177|Grating Spaces]]''
*''Pre-episode''
**Brock's {{p|Onix}} evolves into {{TP|Brock|Steelix}}.



;''[[AG180|May, we Harley Drew'd Ya]]''
*{{an|May}}, [[Drew]], [[Harley]] and [[Solidad]] advance to the first round of the [[Kanto]] [[Grand Festival]].

;''[[AG181|Thinning the Hoard]]''
*{{an|May}}, [[Drew]], [[Harley]] and [[Solidad]] advance to the second round of the [[Kanto]] [[Grand Festival]].
*{{an|May}} defeats [[Harley]] in the third round of the [[Kanto]] [[Grand Festival]].

;''[[AG182|Channeling the Battle Zone]]''
*{{an|May}} defeats [[Drew]] in the third round of the [[Kanto]] [[Grand Festival]].
*{{Ash}} catches {{AP|Aipom}}.
*[[Solidad]] defeats {{an|May}} in the third round of the [[Kanto]] [[Grand Festival]].
*[[Solidad]] wins the [[Kanto]] [[Grand Festival]].





;''[[AG187|The Unbeatable Lightness of Seeing]]''
*{{Ash}} receives a postcard from {{Gary}} which tells him about [[Sinnoh]].
*[[Drew]] and [[Harley]] tell {{an|May}} they are going to take part in the [[Pokémon Contest]]s in [[Johto]].


;''[[AG189|Gathering The Gang of Four]]''
*''Pre-episode''
**{{AP|Charizard}} learns {{m|Steel Wing}}.
* {{AP|Bulbasaur}} returns from [[Oak's Laboratory]].
* {{AP|Charizard}} returns from the [[Charicific Valley]].
* {{AP|Squirtle}} returns from the [[Squirtle Squad]].

;''[[AG190|Pace - The Final Frontier]]''
*{{Ash}} defeats {{FB|Pyramid King|Brandon}}.
*{{FB|Pyramid King|Brandon}} gives {{Ash}} the [[Symbol|Brave Symbol]].
*{{Ash}} enters the {{Gdis|Battle Frontier|III}} [[Hall of Fame]].
*{{AP|Bulbasaur}} returns to [[Oak's Laboratory]].
*{{AP|Squirtle}} returns to the [[Squirtle Squad]].
*{{AP|Charizard}} returns to [[Charicific Valley]].

;''[[AG191|Once More with Reeling]]''
*{{TP|May|Combusken}} evolves into {{TP|May|Blaziken}}.

;''[[AG192|Home is Where the Start Is]]''
*{{an|May}} leaves for [[Johto]].
*[[Max]] returns to [[Petalburg City]].
*[[Brock]] returns to [[Pewter City]].
*{{Ash}} returns to [[Pallet Town]].
*{{Ash}} reencounters {{Gary}} in [[Pallet Town]].
*{{Gary}} leaves [[Pallet Town]] for [[Sinnoh]].
*{{Ash}} receives a new [[Pokédex]] from [[Professor Oak]].
*{{Ash}} leaves all his [[Pokémon]] but {{AP|Pikachu}} at [[Professor Oak's Laboratory]].
*{{Ash}} leaves [[Pallet Town]] for [[Sinnoh]].
*{{AP|Aipom}} follows {{Ash}}.

===[[Diamond & Pearl series|Diamond & Pearl]]===
====[[Sinnoh]]====
=====[[Pokémon: Diamond and Pearl|Season 10]]=====
*''Pre-season''
**[[Paul]] receives a [[Pokédex]] and his [[starter Pokémon]] from [[Professor Rowan]]. He chooses {{TP|Paul|Turtwig}}.
**[[Paul]] travels to [[Kanto]], [[Johto]] and [[Hoenn]] and competes in their [[Pokémon League]] tournaments.
*[[Paul]]'s {{p|Turtwig}} evolves into {{TP|Paul|Grotle}}.
*[[Paul]]'s {{p|Grotle}} evolves into {{TP|Paul|Torterra}}.
* Paul captures a {{TP|Paul|Murkrow}}, an {{TP|Paul|Elekid}}, and a {{TP|Paul|Weavile}}.
**[[Paul]] arrives in the [[Sinnoh]] [[region]].
*[[Paul]] captures {{p|Ninjask}} and {{TP|Paul|Chimchar}}.

;''[[DP001|Following a Maiden's Voyage!]]''
*''Pre-episode''
**{{an|Dawn}} turns 10.
*{{an|Dawn}} leaves [[Twinleaf Town]] to become a [[Pokémon Coordinator]].
*{{an|Dawn}} arrives in [[Sandgem Town]].
*{{an|Dawn}} receives a [[Pokédex]] and her [[starter Pokémon]] from [[Professor Rowan]]. She chooses {{TP|Dawn|Piplup}}.
*{{an|Dawn}} leaves [[Sandgem Town]].
*{{an|Dawn}} sees a {{p|Mesprit}}.
*{{Ash}} arrives in the [[Sinnoh]] [[region]].
*{{Ash}} is separated from {{AP|Pikachu}}.

;''[[DP002|Two Degrees of Separation!]]''
*{{an|Dawn}} finds {{AP|Pikachu}} and tries to capture it.
*{{AP|Pikachu}} destroys {{an|Dawn}}'s bike.
*[[James]] retrieves {{TP|James|Carnivine}}, which he owned as a child.
*[[Brock]] arrives in the [[Sinnoh]] [[region]].
*[[Brock]] joins {{Ash}}.
*{{Ash}} catches {{AP|Starly}}.

;''[[DP003|When Pokémon Worlds Collide!]]''
*{{Ash}} meets [[Paul]].
*{{Ash}} finds {{AP|Pikachu}}.
*{{Ash}} meets {{an|Dawn}}.
*[[Team Rocket]] starts using their third [[Team Rocket motto|motto]].
*{{Ash}} changes into his third outfit.


;''[[DP005|Gettin' Twiggy With It!]]''
*{{Ash}} catches {{AP|Turtwig}}.



;''[[DP008|Gymbaliar]]''
*[[Brock]] catches {{TP|Brock|Croagunk}}.

;''[[DP009|Setting the World on its Buneary]]''
*{{an|Dawn}} catches {{TP|Dawn|Buneary}}.

;''[[DP010|Not on My Watch Ya Don't]]''
*{{Ash}} and {{ashfr|his friends}} arrive in [[Jubilife City]].
*{{an|Dawn}} gets a pink [[Pokétch]].

;''[[DP011|Mounting a Coordinator Assault]]''
*{{an|Dawn}} meets [[Zoey]].
*{{Ash}}, {{an|Dawn}}, [[Zoey]], and [[Jessie]] enter a [[Pokémon Super Contest]].
*{{Ash}}, {{an|Dawn}}, [[Zoey]], and [[Jessie]] compete in the first round of the contest.

;''[[DP012|Arrival of a Rival]]''
*{{Ash}}, {{an|Dawn}}, [[Zoey]] and [[Jessie]] advance to the second round of the contest.
*[[Zoey]] defeats {{Ash}} in the second round, beating {{AP|Aipom}} with {{TP|Zoey|Glameow}}.
*[[Zoey]] defeats {{an|Dawn}} in the second round, beating {{TP|Dawn|Buneary}} with {{TP|Zoey|Glameow}}.
*[[Zoey]] defeats [[Jessie]] in the second round, beating {{TP|James|Carnivine}} with {{TP|Zoey|Glameow}}.
*[[Zoey]] wins her second [[ribbon]].

;''[[DP013|A Staravia is Born]]''
*Ash's {{p|Starly}} evolves into {{AP|Staravia}}.
*{{TP|Brock|Bonsly}} learns {{m|Mimic}}.
*{{AP|Staravia}} learns {{m|Aerial Ace}}.

;''[[DP014|Leave It To Brocko]]''
*Brock's {{p|Bonsly}} evolves into {{TP|Brock|Sudowoodo}}.

;''[[DP015|Shapes of Things to Come]]''
*{{Ash}} and {{ashfr|his friends}} arrive in [[Oreburgh City]].
*[[Paul]] goes to [[Oreburgh Gym]] and challenges the [[Gym Leader]], [[Roark]]. He wins.
*[[Roark]] gives [[Paul]] the {{Badge|Coal}}.

;''[[DP016|A Gruff Act to Follow]]''
*{{Ash}} goes to [[Oreburgh Gym]] and challenges the [[Gym Leader]], [[Roark]]. He loses.

;''[[DP017|Wild in the Streets!]]''
*{{p|Cranidos}} evolves into {{p|Rampardos}}.
*{{an|Dawn}} learns the next [[Pokémon Super Contest|contest]] will be in [[Floaroma Town]].

;''[[DP018|O'er the Rampardos we Watched]]''
*{{Ash}} goes to [[Oreburgh Gym]] and rechallenges the [[Gym Leader]], [[Roark]]. He wins.
*[[Roark]] gives {{Ash}} the {{Badge|Coal}}.

;''[[DP019|Twice Smitten, Once Shy]]''
*{{an|Dawn}} catches {{TP|Dawn|Pachirisu}}.
*{{an|Dawn}} [[Released Pokémon|releases]] {{TP|Dawn|Pachirisu}}.
*{{an|Dawn}} recatches {{TP|Dawn|Pachirisu}}.



;''[[DP022|Borrowing on Bad Faith]]''
*[[Jessie]] borrows {{AP|Aipom}}.
*{{an|Dawn}} and [[Jessie]] enter an unofficial contest.
*{{an|Dawn}} and [[Jessie]] advance to the second round.
*[[Jessie]] defeats {{an|Dawn}} in the second round, beating {{TP|Dawn|Pachirisu}} with {{AP|Aipom}}.
*[[Jessie]] wins a year's supply of bananas.




;''[[DP026|Getting the Pre-Contest Titters]]''
*{{TP|Dawn|Piplup}} learns {{m|Whirlpool}}.
*{{an|Dawn}} encounters a childhood friend, {{si|Kenny}}.
*{{an|Dawn}}, {{si|Kenny}}, and [[Jessie]] enter a [[Pokémon Super Contest]].

;''[[DP027|Settling a Not-So-Old Score]]''
*{{an|Dawn}} defeats [[Jessie]] in the second round, beating {{TP|Jessie|Dustox}} with {{TP|Dawn|Piplup}}.
*{{an|Dawn}} defeats {{si|Kenny}} in the second round, beating {{TP|Kenny|Prinplup}} with {{TP|Dawn|Piplup}}.
*{{an|Dawn}} wins her first [[Ribbon]].

;''[[DP028|Drifloon on the Wind]]''
*{{Ash}} and [[Paige and Marnie|Marnie]] meet a {{p|Suicune}}.


;''[[DP030|Some Enchanted Sweetening]]''
*{{Ash}} meets [[Cheryl]].
*[[Cheryl]] catches {{p|Burmy}}.
*[[Cheryl]]'s {{p|Burmy}} evolves into {{p|Mothim}}.

;''[[DP031|The Grass-Type is Always Greener]]''
*{{Ash}} meets [[Gardenia]].
*[[Gardenia]] defeats {{Ash}} in a {{pkmn|battle}}.


;''[[DP033|All Dressed Up with Somewhere to Go]]''
*{{Ash}}, {{an|Dawn}} and [[Brock]] enter a competition for a TV Project called Pokémon Cosplay Convention.
*[[Brock]] wins an {{pkmn|egg}}.

;''[[DP034|Buizel Your Way Out of This!]]''
*{{an|Dawn}} catches {{TP|Dawn|Buizel}}.

;''[[DP035|An Elite Greet and Meet]]''
*{{Ash}} meets [[Lucian]].
*{{Ash}} learns about the [[Sinnoh]] [[Elite Four]].
*[[Lucian]] defeats {{an|Dawn}} in a {{pkmn|battle}}.

;''[[DP036|A Secret Sphere of Influence]]''
*{{Ash}} and {{ashfr|his friends}} arrive in [[Eterna City]].
*{{Ash}} learns [[Gardenia]] is the [[Eterna City]] [[Gym Leader]].
*{{Ash}} learns the [[Sinnoh myths#The Original Story|Sinnoh creation myth]].
*[[Team Galactic]] appear in the anime, including [[Saturn]], though {{Ash}} and {{ashfr|his friends}} do not meet them.

;''[[DP037|A Grass Menagerie!]]''
*{{Ash}} goes to [[Eterna Gym]] and challenges the [[Gym Leader]], [[Gardenia]]. He wins.
*[[Gardenia]] gives {{Ash}} the {{Badge|Forest}}.

;''[[DP038|One Big Happiny Family!]]''
*{{Ash}} and {{ashfr|his friends}} are on [[Route 206|Cycling Road]].
*[[Brock]]'s {{pkmn|egg}} hatches into {{TP|Brock|Happiny}}.
*[[Brock]] polishes a white stone into an {{DL|Held item|Oval Stone}} for {{TP|Brock|Happiny}}.



;''[[DP040|Top-Down Training!]]''
*{{Ash}} meets [[Cynthia]].
*[[Cynthia]] defeats [[Paul]] in a {{pkmn|battle}}.










;''[[DP049|Dawn's Early Night]]''
*{{an|Dawn}}, [[Zoey]], [[Jessie]], and [[Nando]] compete in the [[Hearthome City]] {{pkmn|Contest}}.
*{{an|Dawn}} loses in the appeal round.
*[[Nando]] defeats [[Jessie]] in the semifinals.
*[[Nando]] defeats [[Zoey]] in the final round.

;''[[DP050|Tag! We're It!]]''
*{{Ash}}, [[Brock]] and {{an|Dawn}} compete in the [[Hearthome City Tag Battle Competition]].
**{{Ash}} is teamed up with [[Paul]].
**[[Brock]] is teamed up with [[Holly]].
**{{an|Dawn}} is teamed up with [[Conway]].

;''[[DP051|Glory Blaze]]''
*[[Paul]] [[Released Pokémon|releases]] {{AP|Chimchar}}.
*{{Ash}} and [[Paul]], {{an|Dawn}} and [[Conway]], and [[Brock]] and [[Holly]] advance in the tournament.

;''[[DP052|Smells Like Team Spirit]]''
*{{AP|Chimchar}} joins {{Ash}}.
*{{Ash}} and [[Paul]] face [[Brock]] and [[Holly]]. Ash and Paul win and advance to the finals.
*{{an|Dawn}} and [[Conway]] advance to the finals.
*{{Ash}} and [[Paul]] face {{an|Dawn}} and [[Conway]] in the finals.
*[[Paul]]'s {{p|Elekid}} [[Evolution|evolves]] into {{TP|Paul|Electabuzz}}.
*{{Ash}} and [[Paul]] win [[Soothe Bell]]s.
*[[Paul]] gives his [[Soothe Bell]] to {{Ash}}.

=====[[Pokémon Diamond & Pearl: Battle Dimension|Season 11]]=====


;''[[DP054|Once There Were Greenfields]]''
*[[Gardenia]] reappears.
*[[Gardenia]] and [[James]] have a tag battle against {{Ash}} and {{an|Dawn}} using {{TP|Gardenia|Turtwig}}, {{TP|James|Cacnea}}, {{TP|Ash|Aipom}}, and {{TP|Dawn|Pachirisu}}. Ash and Dawn win.
*{{TP|James|Cacnea}} learns {{m|Drain Punch}}.
*[[James]] gives {{TP|James|Cacnea}} to [[Gardenia]].

;''[[DP055|Throwing the Track Switch]]''
*[[Zoey]] reappears.
*{{Ash}} is training for his next {{Pkmn|Gym}} battle in [[Veilstone City]].
*{{an|Dawn}} is training for her next {{Pkmn|Contest}} in [[Solaceon Town]].
*{{AP|Aipom}} is having a hard time concentrating on {{Ash}}'s training.
*{{TP|Dawn|Buizel}} is having a hard time concentrating on {{an|Dawn}}'s training.
*[[Zoey]] suggests {{Ash}} and {{an|Dawn}} [[trade]] {{AP|Aipom}} and {{TP|Dawn|Buizel}}.
*{{Ash}} and {{an|Dawn}} use each other's {{TP|Dawn|Buizel}} and {{AP|Aipom}} in battle against [[Team Rocket]].
*{{Ash}} and {{an|Dawn}} officially [[trade]] {{TP|Dawn|Aipom}} and {{AP|Buizel}}.






;''[[DP060|Journey to the Unknown!]]''
*{{Ash}} and {{ashfr|his friends}} explore the [[Solaceon Ruins]].
*{{an|Dawn}}'s {{p|Aipom}} evolves into {{TP|Dawn|Ambipom}}.
*Saturn steals [[Spear Key|a cube]] from the Solaceon Ruins.

;''[[DP061|Team Shocker!]]''
*{{An|Dawn}} competes in a [[Pokémon Contest]] in [[Solaceon Town]].
*{{an|Dawn}} loses in the Appeals Round in the [[Solaceon Town]] {{pkmn|Contest}}.
*[[Jessie]] wins the [[Solaceon Town]] {{pkmn|Contest}} with her {{TP|Jessie|Dustox}}.



;''[[DP064|Riding the Winds of Change!]]''
*{{Ash}}, [[Brock]], and {{an|Dawn}} enter a town having a problem with trapped {{p|Gligar}}.
*[[Paul]] uses his {{TP|Paul|Electabuzz}} and {{TP|Paul|Weavile}} to capture the Gligar's leader, a {{TP|Paul|Gliscor}}.
*{{Ash}}, [[Brock]], and {{an|Dawn}} help [[Nurse Joy]] and [[Officer Jenny]] chase the {{p|Gligar}} from the town.
*One {{AP|Gligar}} remains behind, and chooses to go with {{Ash}}.

;''[[DP065|Sleight of Sand!]]''
*{{Ash}} and {{ashfr|his friends}} encounter {{an|Hippopotas}} once more.
*[[Cassidy]] and [[Butch]] show up in the Sinnoh region and get into an argument with [[Jessie]] and [[James]].

;''[[DP066|Lost Leader Strategy!]]''
*{{Ash}} and {{ashfr|his friends}} arrive in [[Veilstone City]].
*[[Maylene]] denies Ash's request for a Gym Battle.
*Ash and co. meet [[Paul]]'s older brother, [[Reggie]].
*Ash battles Reggie.
*Maylene agrees to a confidence-boosting match against {{an|Dawn}}.

;''[[DP067|Crossing the Battle Line!]]''
*Ash trains his {{AP|Staravia}} to use {{m|Brave Bird}}.
*{{an|Dawn}} battles [[Maylene]] in a Gym Battle.
*[[Maylene]] defeats Dawn.

;''[[DP068|A Triple Fighting Chance!]]''
*{{Ash}} battles [[Maylene]] in a Gym Battle.
*{{AP|Buizel}} learns {{m|Water Pulse}}.
*Ash's match with Maylene ends in a draw.
*[[Maylene]] gives Ash the {{Badge|Cobble}}.

;''[[DP069|Enter Galactic!]]''
*[[Team Galactic]] arrives in Veilstone City to steal its [[meteorite]]s.
*[[Saturn]]'s {{p|Toxicroak}} battles [[Brock's Croagunk]].
*{{Ash}}, {{an|Dawn}}, [[Brock]], [[Maylene]], and [[Reggie]] fight off [[Team Galactic]].
*{{AP|Pikachu}} and [[Paul's Electabuzz]] begin to get along.
*[[Team Galactic]] flees.



;''[[DP071|Pokémon Ranger and the Kidnapped Riolu! Part 1]]''
*{{Ash}} and {{ashfr|his friends}} meet [[Kellyn]].
*The group meet a {{p|Riolu}} that can use {{m|Aura Sphere}}.
*[[J|Pokémon Hunter J]] attempts to steal the Riolu.
*{{an|Dawn}} learns of Ash's [[aura]] abilities.

;''[[DP072|Pokémon Ranger and the Kidnapped Riolu! Part 2]]''
*[[J]] steals the {{p|Riolu}} from the prior episode.
*{{Ash}} saves Riolu from [[J]] and the man J is working for.

;''[[DP073|Crossing Paths]]''
*{{TP|Jessie|Dustox}} meets a {{shiny2}} {{p|Dustox}}.
*{{Ash}}, {{ashfr|his friends}}, and [[Team Rocket]] learn of the Dustox breeding ceremony.
*[[Jessie]] [[Released Pokémon|releases]] {{TP|Jessie|Dustox}}.

;''[[DP074|Pika and Goliath!]]''
*{{AP|Pikachu}} loses a battle against [[Sho|a boy]]'s {{p|Raichu}}.
*{{Ash}} reveals that he still has the {{evostone|Thunderstone}} given to him in [[Vermilion City]].
*{{AP|Pikachu}} decides once again not to evolve into {{p|Raichu}}.
*{{AP|Pikachu}} defeats [[Sho]]'s {{p|Raichu}}.
*[[Jessie]], [[James]], and {{MTR}} steal the Thunderstone Ash saved.

;''[[DP075|Our Cup Runneth Over!]]''
*{{an|Dawn}} learns about the [[Wallace Cup]], a special [[Pokémon Contest]] that offers a [[ribbon]] redeemable at any [[region]]al [[Grand Festival]] as a prize.
*{{Ash}} and {{ashfr|his friends}} meet [[Wallace]], former [[Sootopolis City]] [[Gym Leader]] and [[Hoenn]] {{pkmn|Champion}}.
*{{an|May}} calls {{Ash}} from [[Snowpoint City]].

;''[[DP076|A Full Course Tag Battle!]]''
*''Pre-episode''
**May's {{p|Eevee}} evolves into {{TP|May|Glaceon}}.
**Drew's {{p|Roselia}} evolves into {{TP|Drew|Roserade}}.
*{{an|May}} joins {{Ash}}, {{an|Dawn}}, and [[Brock]] at [[Valor Lakefront]] to compete in the [[Wallace Cup]].
*May and Ash show Dawn the [[Ribbon]] they tied to win in ''[[AG191|Once More with Reeling]]''.

;''[[DP077|Staging A Heroes Welcome]]''
*''Pre-episode''
**{{an|May}}'s {{p|Squirtle}} evolves into {{TP|May|Wartortle}}.
*{{an|May}}, {{Ash}}, {{an|Dawn}}, and [[Zoey]] compete in the [[Wallace Cup]].

;''[[DP078|Pruning a Passel of Pals!]]''
*''Pre-episode''
**{{an|May}}'s {{p|Bulbasaur}} evolves into {{TP|May|Ivysaur}}.
**{{an|May}}'s {{p|Ivysaur}} evolves into {{TP|May|Venusaur}}.
*{{an|May}}, {{Ash}}, {{an|Dawn}}, and [[Zoey]] continue to compete in the [[Wallace Cup]].
*{{Ash}} sees {{p|Azelf}}'s projected soul at [[Lake Valor]].
*{{Ash}} drops out of the [[Wallace Cup]] in the quarterfinals.

;''[[DP079|Strategy With a Smile!]]''
*{{an|May}}, {{an|Dawn}}, and [[Zoey]] continue to compete in the [[Wallace Cup]].
*[[Zoey]] drops out of the Wallace Cup in the semifinals.
*{{an|May}} and {{an|Dawn}} face each other in the finals of the Wallace Cup.
*{{an|Dawn}} and {{TP|Dawn|Piplup}} narrowly defeat {{an|May}} and {{TP|May|Glaceon}} in the finals.
*{{an|Dawn}} wins the [[Aqua Ribbon]].
*{{an|May}} returns to [[Johto]] to compete for two more [[Ribbon]]s.

;''[[DP080|The Thief That Keeps on Thieving!]]''
*{{Ash}}, {{an|Dawn}}, and [[Brock]] continue on their way to [[Pastoria City]].
*The group meets [[Tyler]], a rookie trainer who is trying to capture a {{p|Yanma}}.
*[[Jessie]] captures {{TP|Jessie|Yanma}} before Tyler can.
*[[Jessie]], [[James]], and {{MTR}} send {{TP|Jessie|Yanma}} to [[Giovanni]] via {{TR|Delibird}}.
*[[Giovanni]] deems {{TP|Jessie|Yanma}} to be weak and returns it.
*[[Jessie]] decides to train {{TP|Jessie|Yanma}}.
*Jessie's {{p|Yanma}} uses {{m|AncientPower}} and [[Evolution|evolves]] into {{TP|Jessie|Yanmega}}.



;''[[DP083|A Crasher Course in Power!]]''
*[[Crasher Wake]] gives {{Ash}} the {{Badge|Fen}}.

;''[[DP084|Hungry For the Good Life!]]''
*{{an|Dawn}} captures a {{TP|Dawn|Swinub}}.

;''[[DP085|Fighting Fear With Fear!]]''
*{{Ash}}'s {{p|Gligar}} learns {{m|X-Scissor}}.
*{{Ash}}, {{an|Dawn}} and [[Brock]] meet up with {{Gary}}.
*{{Gary}} gives {{Ash}} a [[Razor Fang]].
*{{Ash}}'s {{p|Gligar}} [[Evolution|evolves]] into {{AP|Gliscor}}.
;''[[DP086|Arriving in Style!]]''
*Dawn wins the [[Hearthome Collection]] with Buneary.








;''[[DP095|Battling the Generation Gap!]]''
*Dawn wins her third ribbon in the [[Celestic Town]] {{pkmn|Contest}}.
;''[[DP096|Losing Its Lustrous]]''
*[[Team Galactic]] steals the {{DL|Type-enhancing item|Adamant Orb}} from a police airplane.
*Ash and his friends meet Cynthia again.
*Ash and his friends meet [[Professor Carolina]], who is Cynthia's grandmother.
*[[Saturn's Toxicroak]] defeats [[Brock's Croagunk]].
;''[[DP097|Double Team Turnover!]]''
*Ash and his friends confront Team Galactic, but fail in getting back the [[Lustrous Orb]].
*[[Team Galactic]] steals the Lustrous Orb from [[Celestic Town]].



;''[[DP099|A Trainer and Child Reunion!]]''
*Ash, Brock and Dawn meet {{EF|Aaron}} of the Elite Four.
;''[[DP100|Aiding the Enemy]]''
*''Pre-episode''
**[[Paul]] earns the {{Badge|Relic}} from [[Fantina]].
*{{Ash}}'s {{p|Turtwig}} [[Evolution|evolves]] into {{AP|Grotle}}.
*[[Paul]]'s {{p|Torterra}} helps {{AP|Grotle}} deal with its decreased speed.
;''[[DP101|Barry's Busting Out All Over!]]''
*{{Ash}}, [[Brock]], and {{an|Dawn}} meet [[Barry]].
*{{Ash}} prepares to have an official Gym battle rematch with [[Fantina]].
*[[Barry]] and {{Ash}} battle. Ash comes out the victor.

;''[[DP102|A Shield with a Twist]]''
*[[Fantina]] gives {{Ash}} the {{Badge|Relic}}.
* [[Jessie]] wins her second [[ribbon]] in the {{to|Majolica}} {{pkmn|Contest}} with her {{TP|Jessie|Yanmega}}.
;''[[DP103|Jumping Rocket Ship]]''
*Ash and co. reach [[Canalave City]].
*The group's Pokémon are blasted away to various points in [[Canalave City]].
*Barry leaves the group to train on [[Iron Island]].
;''[[DP104|Sleepless in Pre-Battle]]''
*Dawn's {{p|Swinub}} evolves into {{TP|Dawn|Piloswine}}.

=====[[Pokémon Diamond & Pearl: Galactic Battles|Season 12]]=====
;''[[DP106|A Breed Stampede!]]''
*''Pre-episode''
**{{si|Kenny}} earns his third [[Ribbon]].
**[[Nando]] earns his fourth [[Ribbon]].
*[[Dawn's Piloswine]] starts disobeying her.
*{{an|Dawn}}'s {{p|Piloswine}} evolves into a {{TP|Dawn|Mamoswine}}.
*{{AP|Grotle}} begins to utilize the lessons that were taught to it by [[Paul's Torterra]].
;''[[DP108|Dealing with Defensive Types!]]''
*{{Ash}} battles for his sixth Sinnoh Badge, against [[Byron]].
*{{Ash}} earns his sixth Gym Badge, the {{Badge|Mine}}.

;''[[DP114|Another One Gabites the Dust!]]''
*{{an|Dawn}} wins her fourth [[Ribbon]] in the [[Chocovine Town]] {{pkmn|Contest}}.

;''[[DP118|Pursuing a Lofty Goal!]]''
*{{Ash}}'s {{p|Staravia}} [[Evolution|evolves]] into {{AP|Staraptor}}.

;''[[DP123|Old Rivals, New Tricks]]''
*{{An|Dawn}} competes in a [[Pokémon Contest]] in [[Sandalstraw Town]].
*{{si|Kenny}} defeats {{an|Dawn}} and wins his fourth [[ribbon]].
;''[[DP124|To Thine Own Pokémon Be True!]]''
*{{an|Dawn}} gives {{TP|Dawn|Ambipom}} to [[O]] for training.

;''[[DP127|Sliding Into Seventh!]]''
*{{Ash}} battles [[Candice]] of the [[Snowpoint Gym]] for his seventh Sinnoh Badge.
*{{Ash}} earns the {{Badge|Icicle}} from [[Candice]].
;''[[DP128|A Pyramiding Rage!]]''
* Brandon arrives in Snowpoint City.
** Paul challenges Brandon, with Paul losing easily.
;''[[DP129|Pillars of Friendship]]''
* J returns and awakens Regigigas.
** Ash and Co., along with Brandon, stop J.
;''[[DP130|Frozen on Their Tracks]]''
* Ash and Co. meet Looker, of the Internation Police Force.
;''[[DP131|Pedal to the Mettle!]]''
*''Pre-episode''
**[[Paul]]'s {{p|Magmar}} evolves into {{TP|Paul|Magmortar}}.
*{{Ash}} and [[Paul]] begin to battle.
;''[[DP132|Evolving Strategies!]]''
*{{Ash}} and [[Paul]] continue their battle.
*{{Ash}}'s {{p|Chimchar}} evolves into {{AP|Monferno}}.
*{{Ash}} loses the battle.
;''[[DP133|Uncrushing Defeat!]]''
* Brock sees {{p|Uxie}} at [[Lake Acuity]].

;''[[DP136|Gateway to Ruin]]''
*Ash and co. once again run into Team Galactic at [[Mt. Coronet]].

;''[[DP138|Strategy Begins at Home!]]''
*Ash and Brock meet Johanna. Dawn battles Johanna and loses.

;''[[DP141|Challenging a Towering Figure!]]''
*Ash wins the [[Twinleaf Festival]] and battles {{FB|Tower Tycoon|Palmer}} of the Sinnoh Battle Tower, but loses.

;[[DP143]]
*Dawn defeats {{an|Kotone}} in a battle and receives an {{pkmn|egg}}, which later hatches into {{TP|Dawn|Cyndaquil}}.

;[[DP146]]
*James enters a contest passing by Jessalina and wins, so [[Jessie]] gets her third ribbon. Dawn loses to James in the semi-finals.
;[[DP150]]
*Team Galactic starts their plan to capture [[Dialga (Pokemon)|Dialga]] and [[Palkia (Pokemon)|Palkia]].
*Cyrus hires [[J|Pokemon Hunter J]] to capture Mesprit, Azelf and Uxie.
;[[DP151]]
*Pokemon Hunter J catches Mesprit, Azelf and Uxie for Team Galactic
;[[DP152]]
*Cyrus summons Dialga and Palkia, and disappears through the portal created by them.
*Saturn, Mars and Jupiter are arrested, bringing down Team Galactic.
;[[DP154]]
*Ash leaves {{AP|Gliscor}} with [[Mitsuzō]].
;[[DP157]]
*Ash captures a {{AP|Gible}} which he befriended in [[DP156]].


==See also==
*[[List of anime episodes]]
*[[History of the Pokémon world]]

[[Category:Anime]]
[[Category:Lists]]

Talk:Johanna's Glameow

2010-01-03T17:08:05Z

Tomas: /* Quick Attack */

== So pointless! ==

We don't need pages for every particular Pokémon from anime. They aren't THAT notable to make a full article about them. We can't do anything more than a worthless stub, so what's the point? --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 12:07, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

:True, but this article I think should stay. After all, we have an article about [[Mimey]], so I don't see how this one could hurt. --[[User:PAK Man|PAK Man]] [[User talk:PAK Man|Talk]] 12:44, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

== Possibly female ==

In [[DP138]], both Glameow and Umbreon used Attract on Piplup and Pachirisu. Now, it's appearently confirmed that Piplup is male meaning that Glameow must be female. However, it can be argued that it is Umbreon who is female and it used attract on Piplup. There's still no confirmation on Pachirisu's gender though. I'm stumped. Do we say it's female? I say yes only cause of the game gender ratio. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 10:34, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
:We don't really have enough proof... ---> [[User:223david|'''223''']][[Special:Contributions/223david|☆]][[User talk:223david|'''Dåv]d''']]''' 10:36, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
:: Couldn't we tell by the placement of Glameow, and Umbreon in relation to Piplup and Pachirisu? As in who was straight across from each other. There's also the unlikeliness that Johanna would risk using attract with both her Pokemon in comparison to Dawn's. Johanna must've known attract would work. I think both Umbreon and Glameow are female, simply because they acted very similar. Possibly even having the same personality.--[[User:Dman dustin|Dman dustin]] 19:19, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

== Quick Attack ==
Didn't [[Johanna's Glameow]] and {{p|Umbreon}} use quick attack in [[DP138]]. Please get back to me. [[User:Roryrules123|Roryrules123]] 17:05 19 October 2009 (UTC)

Anybody gonna answer my question? [[User:Roryrules123|Roryrules123]] 11:52 20 October 2009 (UTC)
Yes, they did.--'''[[wp:Wikipedia|Wiki]]'''[[User:Tomas|''Tomas'']] 17:08, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Transportation in the Pokémon world

2009-12-24T08:16:10Z

Tomas: /* Pokémon */

{{Unsatisfactory}}
There are various methods of '''transportation''' used in the [[Pokémon world]].

==Land==
===Shoes===
====Normal shoes====
These are the primary way of getting around in the games. The {{player}} starts with these, and with them is able to walk around. They are used by using the directional controls only.

====Running shoes====
Introduced in [[Generation III]], the [[running shoes]] are a pair of shoes that allow the player to run by holding down the B button in conjunction with the directional pad. Running is not allowed in many buildings, however, until [[Generation IV]]. Running speed is affected by terrain, such as marshes and snow.

===Cycles===
====Bikes====

[[Image:Ash riding Misty's bike.JPG|200px|thumb|right|{{Ash}} "borrows" [[Misty]]'s bike]]

=====Generation I and II=====
In the [[Generation I]] and [[Generation II]] games, as well as {{game|FireRed and LeafGreen|s}}, there is only a basic [[bicycle]] which is sold by [[Miracle Cycle]]. Only one obstacle is passable solely by bicycle, and that is {{ka|Cycling Road}}. Bicycling is disallowed in most buildings.

=====Generation III=====
In {{game2|Ruby|Sapphire|Emerald}}, there are two types of bicycle: the {{DL|Bicycle|Mach Bike}} and {{DL|Bicycle|Acro Bike}}. They can be swapped at [[Rydel's Cycles]] in [[Mauville City]].

The Mach Bike can move so fast that it can climb muddy slopes or pass over weak ground without falling through. If the player collides with something, the speed at which they are traveling will reset. On the [[Seaside Cycling Road]], the player's time and amount of collisions are recorded, and will be sent over to another player if the records are swapped. In addition, there is a period of two blocks of acceleration and deceleration when traveling on the Mach Bike, which makes immediate stops impossible.

The Acro Bike has the same speed as the bikes in earlier games, but can climb rocks in areas like {{rt|112}} and travel on white rails on {{rt|119}} and other places. In addition, if the B button is held while on the Acro Bike, the player will perform a wheelie. If the B button and directional pad are used together, the player is able to bunny hop over small gaps.

=====Generation IV=====
In {{3v2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}}, only one bicycle is available. This, however, has two gears which can be changed by pressing the B button, allowing [[Bike obstacles|obstacles]] to be jumped over with sufficient speed. Unlike the previous generations, bikes cannot be ridden in any buildings in Diamond and Pearl. This was changed in Platinum. In {{2v2|HeartGold|SoulSilver}}, the bike only has one speed, as in Generation II. Unlike Generation II, however, it is given to the player for free by the owner of Miracle Cycle.

=====In the anime=====
Bikes are used at various times in the anime, most notably when {{Ash}} borrows [[Misty]]'s bike, but crashes, thus ruining it. This bike is alluded to frequently throughout the first few seasons as a reason Misty is angry at Ash. All of the main female characters owned bikes, which were eventually destroyed. In the [[Diamond and Pearl]] saga, when Ash and the gang are traveling on [[Cycling Road]], they use bikes.

===={{wp|Motorbike}}s====
=====Generation III=====
[[Image:Wes's Motorcycle.png|left|thumb|Wes's motorcycle, as seen in the beginning of {{game|Colosseum}}.]]
In {{game|Colosseum}}, [[Wes]] rides a futuristic levitating motorcycle.

=====In the anime=====

Used by [[Officer Jenny]] multiple times.

===Trucks===

====Moving truck====
A truck is used by the player's family to move from [[Johto]] to [[Hoenn]] in {{3v2|Ruby|Sapphire|Emerald}}. The player starts off the game inside of the truck.

====[[S.S. Anne#Rumors|S.S. Anne truck]]====
A truck is located in a normally inaccessible part of the S.S. Anne. Its purpose is currently unknown.

===Trains===
====Magnet Train====
The [[Magnet Train]] runs between [[Saffron City]] and [[Goldenrod City]] in the Generation II games and their Generation IV remakes, and was constructed some time after [[Generation I]]. To ride it, a person needs a [[pass]], which was given to those displaced by the train stations' construction.

====Freight Train====
A freight train appeared in [[Camp Pikachu]]. It consisted of a red steam locomotive, numerous freight wagons and a passenger carriage at the rear. It runs on a line in the mountainous areas of [[Johto]]. The [[Pichu Brothers]] enjoy going for rides on it. The [[PokéPark#The Pichu Brothers#Rascal Railway|Pichu Brothers' Rascal Railway]] at [[PokéPark]] is likely based on this train.

====Ampharos Train====
A train powered solely by [[Ampharos Train crew|an Ampharos]] that runs between [[Snowpoint City]] and [[Lake Acuity]] in [[Sinnoh]]. It was featured in ''[[DP130|Frozen on Their Tracks]]''.

====Other Trains====
* Some passenger trains appeared in [[AG157|''Time-Warp Heals All Wounds'']].
* [[Outskirt Stand]] in [[Orre]] appears to be made from an old steam locomotive.
* There is also an [[The Under Subway|underground railway]] in Orre.
* [[LaRousse City]] has a monorail that circles the city, providing access to the central island.
* Another train appeared in ''[[Giratina and the Sky Warrior]].

==={{wp|Skateboard}}s===
In ''[[EP228|Extreme Pokémon!]]'', {{Ash}} and {{Gary}} race on skateboards. Skateboards were also supposed to appear in {{game|Gold and Silver|s}} as a different mode of transportation, but that idea was scrapped.

==={{wp|Segway}}s===

In ''[[AG132|The Scheme Team]]'', [[Butch]] and [[Cassidy]] rode segways, although they were referred to as scooters.
[[Image:ScottsCar.png|right|thumb|[[Scott]]'s car]]

==={{wp|Car}}s===
Used multiple times in the anime. Among the people with cars are [[Scott]], [[Norman]] and [[Reggie]].

==={{wp|Tank}}s===
[[Nastina]] was seen using a tank in ''[[EP019|Tentacool and Tentacruel]]''. Team Rocket also used a tank in ''[[EP064|It's Mr. Mime Time!]]'', to try to kidnap all the Circus Pokémon.

==Air==

===={{wp|Airship}}s====
Seen used frequently by villains. Futuristic airships of a large size, powered apparently by anti-gravity technology of some kind. [[J]], [[Lawrence III]], and [[Zero]] all owned airships.
====={{wp|Blimp}}s=====
* Ash, Misty, Brock, and Team Rocket used a blimp in ''[[EP082|A Scare in the Air!]]'' and one is seen in ''[[EP205|The Kecleon Caper!]]''. Ash, Dawn, Brock and [[Barry]], along with Team Rocket, used an airship to go to [[Canalave City]] in ''[[DP103|Jumping Rocket Ship!]]''.
* Misty uses one to go back to [[Cerulean City]] from the [[Mirage Kingdom]] in the episode ''[[AG045|A Togepi Mirage]]''.

[[Image:Team Rocket's Balloon.PNG|left|thumb|Team Rocket's Meowth balloon]]

===={{wp|Hot air balloon}}s====
Used by Team Rocket in most episodes. Some balloons were shaped as a {{TP|Jessie|Wobbuffet}}, a {{p|Sneasel}}, a {{p|Gliscor}}, a {{p|Carnivine}}, and a {{MTR}}. A hot air-balloon was also used by Ash and co. in the episode ''[[EP205|The Kecleon Caper]]'', a pikachu one in Mewtwo Returns, and by various contestants, including Ash, in ''[[EP202|The Big Balloon Blow-Up]]''. There were also others in various other episodes like ''[[AG080|That's Just Swellow]]'' and in the movie ''[[The Rise of Darkrai]]''.

===={{wp|Airplane}}s====
Used by {{FB|Factory Head|Noland}} in ''[[AG135|Numero Uno Articuno]]''.

[[:a:Image:Jet Plane.png|Used]] by [[Officer Jenny]] and other police officers in ''[[DP096|Losing Its Lustrous]]''.

===={{wp|Hanglider}}s====
Used by [[Falkner]] in ''[[EP131|Fighting Flyer with Fire]]''.

Used by [[Domino]] and many [[Team Rocket grunts]] in ''[[Mewtwo Returns]]''.

===={{wp|Helicopter}}s====

[[Image:Team Rocket Helicopter.PNG|thumb|One of Team Rocket's helicopters]]
Used by [[Team Rocket]], [[Team Magma]], [[Team Aqua]] and [[Team Galactic]] multiple times and by {{si|Rhonda}} in ''[[DP033|All Dressed Up With Somewhere To Go!]]''.

===={{wp|Jet pack}}====
In ''[[AG132|The Scheme Team]]'', [[Butch]] and [[Cassidy]] rode on jet packs to go to the location of their mission. Domino also used one in ''[[Mewtwo Returns]]''.

===={{wp|Flying car (fiction)|Air car}}====
Seen commonly in the various {{pkmn|manga}}. Most notably, [[Officer Jenny]] patrols in a flying car in the [[Electric Tale of Pikachu]]. [[Wallace]] also has a flying car in [[Pokémon Adventures]].

===={{wp|Cable car}}====
A cable car is the only transport to the summit of [[Mt. Chimney]] in the Hoenn region. The cable cars here have appeared in both the [[Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire Versions|games]] and the [[AG054|anime]].

==Water==

====S.S. Anne====
[[File:SS Anne Gen3.gif|thumb|left|{{ga|Leaf}} about to board S.S. Anne]]
The [[S.S. Anne]] stops once every four years, annually or monthly (depending on [[canon]]) in [[Vermilion City]]. The [[S.S. Ticket]] that is needed to board the ship is only given away to exclusive people, such as [[Bill]] and [[Professor Oak]]. However, they can give the ticket away to others.

====S.S. Aqua====

The [[S.S. Aqua]] is a boat that runs between [[Olivine City]] in [[Johto]] and [[Vermilion City]] in [[Kanto]]. It is the largest ship seen so far in the Pokémon world.

====S.S. Tidal====

The '''[[S.S. Tidal]]''' is a boat that mostly runs in the [[Hoenn]] [[region]].

After the player has become the [[champion]], it will always run between [[Lilycove City]] and [[Slateport City]], and to the {{ho|Battle Tower}} in [[Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire Versions|Ruby and Sapphire]]. However, it will also run to other places if the player has a ticket. With the [[Battle Pass]], it will run to the {{Gdis|Battle Frontier|III}} (in {{V2|Emerald}}); with the [[Eon Ticket]], it will run to [[Southern Island]]; with the [[Mysticticket]], it will run to [[Navel Rock]]; with the [[Aurora Ticket]], it will run to [[Birth Island]]; and with the [[Old Sea Map]], it will run to [[Faraway Island]].

====Seagallop Ferries====

The [[Seagallop Ferries]] run between [[Vermilion City]] in [[Kanto]] and each of the nine [[Sevii Islands]].

There are currently four known tickets that can be used to board a Seagallop Ferry: The [[Tri-Pass]] allows the holder to travel to [[Knot Island|Knot]], [[Boon Island|Boon]] and [[Kin Island|Kin]] Islands, the [[Rainbow Pass]] to the same three islands, as well as [[Floe Island|Floe]], [[Chrono Island|Chrono]], [[Fortune Island|Fortune]], and [[Quest Island|Quest]] Islands, the [[Mysticticket]] allows travel to [[Navel Rock]], and the [[Aurora Ticket]] allows travel to [[Birth Island]].

====S.S. Spiral====
[[Image:Submarine.PNG|left|thumb|One of [[Team Rocket]]'s submarines]]
The S.S. Spiral is a boat that runs from [[Snowpoint City]] to the [[Battle Zone]] in Sinnoh.

In {{game|Diamond and Pearl|s}}, the S.S. Spiral was a regular looking ship. However, in {{game|Platinum}}, it had a redesign. The S.S. Spiral became a red boat with a crane on the back, and, its possible namesake, two spinning drills to part the ice floes in the area from Snowpoint City to the Battle Zone.

===={{wp|Submarine}}s====
Used by [[Team Rocket]] many times and by {{Ash}} and {{Ashfr|his friends}} in ''[[Pokémon Ranger and the Temple of the Sea]]'' and in ''[[AG094|Relicanth Really Can!]]''. In {{game2|Ruby|Sapphire|Emerald}}, a [[Submarine Explorer 1|submarine]] made by [[Captain Stern]] is stolen by [[Team Magma]] or [[Team Aqua]] (depending on version) to reach [[Seafloor Cavern]], where either {{p|Groudon}} or {{p|Kyogre}} is.

===={{wp|Kayak}}s and {{wp|canoe}}s====
Used by a [[Nurse Joy]] in ''[[EP092|The Joy of Pokémon]]'', and by Ash and his friends in ''[[Pokémon Ranger and the Temple of the Sea]]''.

====[[Team Rocket]]'s boats====
Team Rocket has used many different boats in the anime.

===={{wp|Steam boat}}s====
{{Ash}} and {{Ashfr|his friends}} went on a {{p|Wailord}}-shaped Steam Boat in ''[[DP039|Steamboat Willies!]]''.

==All==
===[[Pokémon]]===
[[File:Riding on Pokémon.png|thumb|250px|Pokémon riding on Pokémon]]
Pokémon are also used occasionally for transportation. People, as well as Pokémon themselves, may ride on Pokémon for various reasons. This is mostly seen in races, wherein only Pokémon may be used to move around. This was first notable in ''[[EP033|The Flame Pokémon-athon!]]'', where Ash and his friends joined a race. Ash and his friends also used {{AP|Lapras}} in going around the [[Orange Archipelago]].

Ash's {{type2|Flying}} Pokémon were rode on many times, mostly by {{AP|Pikachu}} for looking for something or attacking [[Team Rocket]]'s balloon. Pikachu rode on {{AP|Butterfree}} in episodes such as ''[[EP021|Bye Bye Butterfree]]''. It also rode on Pidgeotto, Swellow and Staraptor, Ash's bird-based Pokémon, multiple times.

{{-}}

[[Category:Pokémon world]]
[[Category:Transportation|*]]

Talk:Pokémon world/Featured article candidate

2009-12-22T14:44:39Z

Tomas: /* Support (5) */

==[[Pokémon world]]==__NOTOC__
====Support (6)====
* I think this is a great article that shows a lot of research and good prose, which is sadly rare around here. It's arranged very good, has plenty of images to illustrate the concepts (but not too many), and I think it's ready to be featured. It would be nice if someone could grab an HGSS shot of the Burned Tower, though, similar to the Gen II one we have. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 14:28, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
* '''Support.''' This wasn't already featured?! One of the best articles around! Very detailed and descriptive. '''[[User:CuboneKing|Cubone]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]]''' ([[User talk:CuboneKing|Planet Cubone]] • [[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|Bone Club]])
* This needs to be one, it's very accurate and detailed.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 23:04, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
*'''Support.'''One of the best articles. Why wasn't this nominated earlier?--[[User:GreenGyarados|Green]][[User talk:GreenGyarados|Gyarados]][[Special:Contributions/GreenGyarados|Happy Holidays!]] 04:15, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
*'''''Support!''''' It is a great article and one of the best. --[[User:Smartkidhen|Smartkidhen]] 15:13, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

* '''Suport'''.Tis is one of the best articles on Bulbapedia, and i'm sure it needs to be featured.--'''[[wp:Wikipedia|Wiki]]'''[[User:Tomas|''Tomas'']] 14:43, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

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*I'll agree it's a good article, but some seems to be speculation such as Japan in comparison to the regions of the Pokémon world. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 23:26, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
**You're right, maybe to limit the amount that could be cut down and have a {{template|Main}} link. '''[[User:CuboneKing|Cubone]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]]''' ([[User talk:CuboneKing|Planet Cubone]] • [[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|Bone Club]]) 23:30, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
***The length's not the issue (well, somewhat). I'm talking about speculation. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 23:36, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
****I met limit the amount of speculation. '''[[User:CuboneKing|Cubone]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]]''' ([[User talk:CuboneKing|Planet Cubone]] • [[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|Bone Club]]) 04:14, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Pokémon world/Featured article candidate

2009-12-22T14:43:11Z

Tomas: /* Support (5) */

==[[Pokémon world]]==__NOTOC__
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* I think this is a great article that shows a lot of research and good prose, which is sadly rare around here. It's arranged very good, has plenty of images to illustrate the concepts (but not too many), and I think it's ready to be featured. It would be nice if someone could grab an HGSS shot of the Burned Tower, though, similar to the Gen II one we have. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 14:28, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
* '''Support.''' This wasn't already featured?! One of the best articles around! Very detailed and descriptive. '''[[User:CuboneKing|Cubone]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]]''' ([[User talk:CuboneKing|Planet Cubone]] • [[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|Bone Club]])
* This needs to be one, it's very accurate and detailed.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 23:04, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
*'''Support.'''One of the best articles. Why wasn't this nominated earlier?--[[User:GreenGyarados|Green]][[User talk:GreenGyarados|Gyarados]][[Special:Contributions/GreenGyarados|Happy Holidays!]] 04:15, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
*'''''Support!''''' It is a great article and one of the best. --[[User:Smartkidhen|Smartkidhen]] 15:13, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

* '''Suport'''.Tis is one of the best articles on Bulbapedia, and i'm sure it needs to be featured.--'''[[wp:Wikipedia|Wiki]]'''[[User:Tomas|''Tomas'']] 14:43, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

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*I'll agree it's a good article, but some seems to be speculation such as Japan in comparison to the regions of the Pokémon world. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 23:26, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
**You're right, maybe to limit the amount that could be cut down and have a {{template|Main}} link. '''[[User:CuboneKing|Cubone]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]]''' ([[User talk:CuboneKing|Planet Cubone]] • [[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|Bone Club]]) 23:30, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
***The length's not the issue (well, somewhat). I'm talking about speculation. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 23:36, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
****I met limit the amount of speculation. '''[[User:CuboneKing|Cubone]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]]''' ([[User talk:CuboneKing|Planet Cubone]] • [[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|Bone Club]]) 04:14, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Paul

2009-12-19T07:29:07Z

Tomas: /* what happened to appereances? */

== Another Shinji ==

There's another Shinji in the Pokémon Anime. He's the Hitmonlee Trainer from Legend Of Raikou movie. He was unnamed in English Version. Should there be a disambiguation? And it's pretty possible that Hitmonlee Shinji's dub name is Sean because Chronicles characters's names are taken from the trainers from GSC and there is Cooltrainer named Shinji in the game, and his name Sean in English Version. The same rule was used for Kenta/Jimmy, Jun'ichi/Vincent, Takumi/Jared, Tsuyoshi/Corey and every other character from Chronicles who shared the name with trainer in GSC (except Tsutomu/Georgio, for some reason). --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 18:11, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

:It makes sense, but I'm against it. Recently, [[May]] was turned into a disambig page. I've since been going through every article linking to the correct one. I suppose with Shinji it wouldn't be that big of a deal, since he hasn't been in that many episodes, but it's such a time-consuming task to do that. --[[User:PAK Man|PAK Man]] 22:03, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

::So if it is to be done, do it now rather than having a harder job later.
::There's also Lake Shinji/Trust. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] 20:32, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

:::Maybe better to wait for English DP. When English DP game and anime is released, all things and character will get own English named and disambig won't be needed anymore. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 20:39, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

::::I agree. By the time the English DP comes out, the Japanese names won't really matter anymore. --[[User:PAK Man|PAK Man]] 20:43, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Well, now with [[Shinji Miyazaki]], shouldn't there be a disambig like there is with [[Satoshi]]? --'''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 06:19, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

:Well, wait until Shinji's US name is revealed. When it'll be, the disambiguation won't be needed anymore. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 14:29, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

::But Satoshi is Ash's Japanese name, and [[Shigeru]] is Gary's... --'''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 20:23, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

:::But Satoshi and Shigeru are Pokémon Anime's very main protagonists and Satoshi Tajiri and Shigeru Miyamoto are most well-known people related to Pokémon. And the disambiguation was also needed because of Satoshi and Shigeru in Zensho. I'm not sure if it is so much needed for Shinji, as he isn't as important as Satoshi & Shigeru, as well as Miyazaki is not as important as are Tajiri & Miyamoto. I don't support this disambig. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 21:07, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

::::Shinji is just as important as Shigeru. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] 16:39, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Should it also be mentioned that both Paul and Lake Verity share the same name in Japanese? [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 09:45, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

== Weavile & Torterra???? ==

I saw the trailer for the [[DP040]], and it looked like Paul was battling against [[Cynthia]] with a {{p|Weavile}} and a {{p|Torterra}}. Are these his new Pokémon? -- [[User:Kenji-girl|Kenji Girl]] 19:55, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

:Since it's only the preview, I would wait until the episode airs to list them as his. --[[User:PAK Man|PAK Man]] [[User talk:PAK Man|Talk]] 20:22, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

They are both his old Pokémon and one thing notable is that Torterra is his starter Pokémon, not Chimchar.-[[User:Billy4b2004|Billy4b2004]] 02:53, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
:Umm I know that now. I made that comment like six months ago. Before the episode premiered. --[[Image:Ani048MS.gif]]'''[[Tracey Sketchit|ケンジ]]'''[[Image:Ani183MS.gif]]'''[[User:Kenji-girl|ガール]]'''[[Image:Ani123MS.gif]] 09:13, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

==His age?==
Where does it say Paul is 11? He doesn't look like or sound like he's 11. - [[User:Jonah|Jonah]] 15:16, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
:It's also explained that he is actually an experienced Trainer wgo travelled over Kanto, Johto and Hoenn. So, how old was he when he started his first Pokémon Journey? He looks rather like 14. I really hate how everyone underages characters. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 15:50, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
Since paul ha traveled through 3 regions and started 10 years old like everyone he should be about the same age as Ash.--[[User:Tomas|Tomas]] 20:50, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
::I think you may be right here. He travels through three regions (presumeably on foot, as we've seen nothing for him to ride or Fly on...) and competes in their tournaments (which are yearly, IIRC) and he's only 11? Someone with a decent grasp of jaspanese needs to have a ''long'' talk with Pokeani. - [[User:Cassius335|Alan]]
then what about ash's age didn't he do the same thing-Sonicflames
:Like has been said: They never told us anything. Paul has no official age, either. He could be 10, too, even if he sounds a lot older. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 05:10, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

==Second Son==
Paul's Japanese name is Shinji and it means faithful second son right? Well its been implied that Silver is Giovanni's son and similarities have been shown between Paul and Silver right? So what if Paul is Giovanni's second son? but that's crazy right?

==Paul/Brandon==

Was it really needed to lose that bit? It ''was'' in the Trivia section and might be worth keeping in mind in case it turns out be true. Or gets proven false, whichever comes first. - [[User:Cassius335|Cassius335]]
:No! Because encyclopedic article isn't place for stupid fanspeculations. Paul can be ANYONE's son. Tell me, why Brandon? We don't care about fanwanks. And sign your comments! --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 16:26, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
:: Well, ''sorry'', I forgot. As for 'Why Brandon'... well, look at them. Compared to the likes of Brock and his mother, they're practically identical, Paul's just shorter. - [[User:Cassius335|Cassius335]]

==Fearow==
Didn't paul try to capture a fearow in an episode? And by the end we didn't know what had happened to it? So why don't we put it under unconfirmed? [[Image:Ani327MS.gif|idk how to make it the shiny green one]][[Image:Ani113MS.gif|japaneese name was lucky]][[Image:Ani196MS.gif|an espeon]][[User:SLE_aman|SLE]][[User Talk:SLE_aman|_Aman]][[Image:Ani387MS.gif|my favorite pokemon]]

==Nugai==
I agree with whoever took out the bit about Paul being referred to as "Nugai" by Pie. I'm highly critical of the justification, "It was important piece of fanon history." His name was revealed shortly after his first appearance in Coro Coro. One American on one message board calling him ''Nugai'', a made-up confusingly Japanese-sounding name, for a couple weeks doesn't really deserve a mention in this article, I don't think, ''even if it was an admin'' who coined the term. --[[User:Greengiant|Greengiant]] 21:49, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
:It was hardly just Pie calling him that. ''Everyone'' did until his real name was revealed. So yes, that is a fact worth noting about Paul. Plus, if someone came across the name when looking at stuff from that time and decided to use Bulbapedia to see who it was, they are currrently able to find the information on it. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 21:57, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
::Okay, let the name stay there but why do we need to keep who coined it as well? If a person was reading this article, does it matter to him who coined the name? [[Image:Ani448MS.gif]][[User:Jmath|'''Jmath''']][[Image:Ani447MS.gif]][[User talk:Jmath|'''Talk''']][[Image:Ani448MS.gif]] 22:23, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

:::It does to posterity. Allow the guy his small slice of history, will ya? [[User:Cassius335|Cassius335]] 22:56, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
::::Pie is female. Anyway, I really don't see what the problem is. It's one sentence in the trivia section and it certainly isn't worth having a seperate "fanon terminology" article. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 00:42, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

== The opening section ==

...is a bit harsh now. Has Paul actually stated that bonding with Pokémon would "make them weak and useless"? Being friends is Pokémon is obviously not his style but calling him arrogant for that seems a bit much. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 23:50, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
:He said that in [[DP040]]. Well, he said slackers but what's the difference?. [[Image:Ani448MS.gif]][[User:Jmath|'''Jmath''']][[Image:Ani447MS.gif]][[User talk:Jmath|'''Talk''']][[Image:Ani448MS.gif]] 09:23, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
::Well, there is a difference in that. I still don't think he can be described as arrogant, though. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 16:17, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

== Disambiguation ==

Do you think we should create a disambiguation page for Paul? Because that is the last name of one of the voice actors, [[Ed Paul]]. Or should we put one of those warnings at the top of the page like we have for Ash and the Sacred ash? --[[Image:Ani048MS.gif]]'''[[Tracey Sketchit|ケンジ]]'''[[Image:Ani183MS.gif]]'''[[User:Kenji-girl|ガール]]'''[[Image:Ani123MS.gif]] 05:01, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
:I'm for warning. I don't like making disambigs for the sake of making disambigs. It's not needed. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 11:04, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

==Turtle==
Does it really matter if that Gary and Paul both started with Turtles? --{{Ani|133}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|'''Darth''']]{{Ani|196}}[[User talk:Darth Cookie Monster|'''Cookie''']]{{Ani|197}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster/Trade with Me|'''Monster''']]{{Ani|471}} 15:32, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
:Trivia never really matters.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 16:40, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
:: Seconded. [[User:Cassius335|Cassius335]] 23:03, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
:::Trivia is trivia. It's just funny facts. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 02:06, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

== The Pokémon for Paul to replace Chimchar ==

Paul said he will catch another powerful fire-type Pokémon after releasing Chimchar in [[DP052]].So what will be that Pokémon?I strongly believe that it is a Magmortar because it is the most powerful fire-type Pokémon in Sinnoh apart from Heatran.-[[User:Billy4b2004|Billy4b2004]] 02:53, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
:How do you know he said he would capture another Fire-type? --[[Image:Ani048MS.gif]]'''[[Tracey Sketchit|ケンジ]]'''[[Image:Ani183MS.gif]]'''[[User:Kenji-girl|ガール]]'''[[Image:Ani123MS.gif]] 09:15, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

I watched the Japanese version of that episode.-[[User:Billy4b2004|Billy4b2004]] 02:53, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
:Do you speak Japanese? --[[Image:Ani048MS.gif]]'''[[Tracey Sketchit|ケンジ]]'''[[Image:Ani183MS.gif]]'''[[User:Kenji-girl|ガール]]'''[[Image:Ani123MS.gif]] 09:31, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
No, hear only.-[[User:Billy4b2004|Billy4b2004]] 02:53, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

== Paul refusing the Soothe Bell ==

Couldn't we mention in Trivia that Paul giving away the Soothe Bell means he doesn't care about getting his Pokémon to warm up to him?

In the games, Soothe Bells are use to get a Pokémon to like you faster. I figured that this was the anime's way of saying that Paul doesn't care whether his Pokémon like him or not. --[[Image:Ani048MS.gif]]'''[[Tracey Sketchit|ケンジ]]'''[[Image:Ani183MS.gif]]'''[[User:Kenji-girl|ガール]]'''[[Image:Ani123MS.gif]] 05:33, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
I think exactly the same thing--[[User:Tomas|Tomas]] 20:56, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

== Brother?? ==

Seriously? Where did you get this info from? Just curious.

Wonder if he'll be nice. --[[Image:Ani048MS.gif]]'''[[Tracey Sketchit|ケンジ]]'''[[Image:Ani183MS.gif]]'''[[User:Kenji-girl|ガール]]'''[[Image:Ani123MS.gif]] 22:12, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
:It's on TV Tokyo. And given that he is a Pokémon Breeder, he is bound to be nicer than Paul. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 22:18, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
::Reiji is it? How much you wanna bet his dub name will be "Reggie"? --[[Image:Ani048MS.gif]]'''[[Tracey Sketchit|ケンジ]]'''[[Image:Ani183MS.gif]]'''[[User:Kenji-girl|ガール]]'''[[Image:Ani123MS.gif]] 05:35, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
:::I wouldn't. From Shinji to Paul. From Reiji to Saul or something{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 05:37, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
::::Shinji sounds like the Japanese word for Pearl so was only named Paul to be a play off of "Pearl". Reiji is probably not going to be a play off of anything. They'll probably just go with the closest English name like Kengo to Kenny or Nozomi to Zoey. --[[Image:Ani048MS.gif]]'''[[Tracey Sketchit|ケンジ]]'''[[Image:Ani183MS.gif]]'''[[User:Kenji-girl|ガール]]'''[[Image:Ani123MS.gif]] 05:41, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

== Vandalism to the Wikipedia article ==

Someone keeps putting [[Pete Capella]] in parenthesis although we kno Rebolledo does the voice so PAKMan will you block that person ? [[User:Livinlarge18|Livinlarge18]] 12:28, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
:Um, I have no control over what goes on at Wikipedia. Let one of their administrators know. --[[User:PAK Man|PAK Man]] [[User talk:PAK Man|Talk]] 16:36, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
::Yea, we and Wikipedia are two totally different websites. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 20:46, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

== Rowan, We Have A Problem. ==

Viewers of the most recent episode are repoting Paul beating Maylene with a Magmar. While the "Paul gets Magmortar" crowd grin like idiots, there's a slight glitch: Magmar would push Paul's team to 7 members on hand, which is obviously impossible. So how the heck do we configure the "On hand" section now? [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 12:00, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

On the [[DP066|latest episode]] Paul reveals that he has a Magmar, now one problem, do we have to show Seven Pokémon on his team? Since we can't say which one he released, if ever. [[User:Ej92|Ej92]] 12:22, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Perhaps it's Ursaring or Weavile.-[[User:Billy4b2004|Billy4b2004]] 12:40, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Dammit, Ej92! I already started a section about this. [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 13:01, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

:Oops! sorry... [[User:Ej92|Ej92]] 06:06, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

I'd say Ursaring because he's never used it in battle before.

:He did use it in a battle against TR......-[[User:Billy4b2004|Billy4b2004]] 15:21, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

::Re: Configuring the ''On hand'' section; what about adding a row with Magmar in it and then stating that as of [[DP066]], we know Paul has a Magmar, but it is unknown which Pokémon it replaced? --[[User:PAK Man|PAK Man]] [[User talk:PAK Man|Talk]] 15:59, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

::: Nice thought, looks silly. [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 17:30, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
::: Ok, how about that? [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 17:43, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

''Status Unknown''!!! jeez, put it there cuz its so confusing!! [[Image:491.png|45px 45px]][[User:Kpokefan|'''K''']][[User talk:Kpokefan|'''P''']][[User:Kpokefan/Missions|'''F''']][[Image:Cal.png|30px 30px]] 16:20, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Huh, it seems like the question is answered. According to people at Bulbagarden, Reji's Electabuzz... is really Shinji's, left in his brothers care. [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 17:58, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
:That's correct, the Eleboo at Reiji's house is actually Shinji's. The template and Shinji's Eleboo article has already been updated with this. [[User:Matkin22|Matkin22]] 18:48, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

== Personality/Pokemon Team Connection ==

Everyone knows how Paul has a dark peronality, right? Well he has Gliscor and Weavile, who are formed when Gligar and Sneasel evolve holding Razor Fang/Claw respectively... at night! WHEN IT'S DARK! Both Gliscor and Weavile also have an evil, deceiving/mischievous personality! Anyone see where I am going with this?--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 21:00, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
:Completely into fanwank? Paul isn't particularly dark, just unemotional. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 21:01, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

K--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 21:04, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Keep in mind that Paul's Gliscor is GROUND-Flying, not DARK-Flying. Maybe it's a nocturnal Pokémon?[[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 19:25, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
::Let's blame it on Mesprit again...[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 01:43, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Sure...Touch Mesprit and you lose all your emotions. Yeah, right like that actually happened with Paul. [[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 01:51, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
::Well, you never know. After all, he is Paul.[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 01:54, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Hmm...To be honest, I believed Cyrus lost his emotions by touching Mesprit in the game, when he was younger. The resemblance in personality with Paul's is uncanny, though. Still, Paul's disposition follows Silver's. I doubt he encountered Mesprit. [[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 02:01, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I saw your comment about that earlier. That's where I thought of this.--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 02:04, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Oh. Maybe Paul really IS unemotional and unfeeling. His Pokémon had nothing to do with it and if they fail to meet his demands, he might as well release them, like he did with Chimchar. [[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 02:12, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

There's a possibility that he would meet Mesprit again and be normal again.--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 02:14, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

== magmar ==

should'nt pauls magmar have it's own page discuss - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Tylerkarnes|Tylerkarnes]] ([[User talk:Tylerkarnes|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Tylerkarnes|contribs]]){{ #if: | {{{2}}} |}}''
:One tiny appearance does not warrent an article. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 19:22, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
::they gave paul's gliscor a page before it's second apperance - ''unsigned comment from {{u|Tylerkarnes}} ([[User talk:Tylerkarnes|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Tylerkarnes|contribs]]){{ #if: | {{{2}}} |}}''

BUT GLISCOR DIDN"T APPEAR IN A TINY FLASHBACK!!!!--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 20:18, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

magmar still demonstrated 2 attacks and was in a gym battle - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Tylerkarnes|Tylerkarnes]] ([[User talk:Tylerkarnes|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Tylerkarnes|contribs]]){{ #if: | {{{2}}} |}}''

Gliscor was the focus of a whole episode, reappeared, and showed 3 attacks. U HAVE NO REASONS--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 22:32, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
:The point is that, unless it appears in an episode and not a flashback, then we would make one. But not before it. And sign your posts. It's not that hard.--[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psychic''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]''''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 22:34, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
::Every article should be judged on its own merits. (And this goes for Paul's Pokémon even more than other trainers - we've already reached the consensus not to have an article on Azumarill.) Gliscor could still be deleted now if that conclusion was reached, though even the one episode provided more notability than Magmar has. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 21:06, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
:Its appearence in [[DP100]] is probably worth discussing article candidacy at the very least --[[User:Thingamajig257]] |[[User talk:Thingamajig257|Talk Page]]| 10:37, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
::My opinion: it does not deserve an article. Why does '''every''' Pokémon of a ''rival'' character have to get its own article? Yes, he's important to the series, but unless he is in every single episode, he doesn't need a bio of all his Pokémon. In all honesty, I think the only Pokémon of his that need pages are Torterra (being his starter), Chimchar (being his primary Pokémon until its abandonment), and ''possibly'' Electabuzz and Ursaring, since they are his "preferred" Pokémon. I still fail to see why his Gliscor and Honchkrow have articles, among others. --[[User:PAK Man|PAK Man]] [[User talk:PAK Man|Talk]] 13:44, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
:::Because Paul didn't release them. Magmar's DP100 appearance pretty much confirms that Magmar will be sticking around, and Paul keeping something he captures isn't too common- consider Azumarill, Stantler, and the three Starly. Only the Pokémon that Paul released (or else only were seen for about a second, such as Ninjask) don't deserve articles (and thus, don't have them). So to summarize, we are not suggesting articles for all of Paul's Pokémon; only the ones he actually keeps. And Ash's Chimchar.- ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 19:10, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

As I see it, when Paul actually uses Magmar in a battle against Ash, or when some information is given about it, then would be the apropriate time to create its article -
[[User:ElectricArbok|ElectricArbok]], 14:00, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Well, I think the time is now. Magmar has been used in a gym battle against Maylene, seen relaxing in DP100 and now battling against Brandon in DP128. I'd say it's about time it deserves a page. [[User:Dilophosaurus Rex|Dilophosaurus Rex]] 14:25, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
: And NOW, it has evolved! We should give it a page if it doesn't have one, and I'm going to check..... --[[User:Cat2killer|''Catu'']] 21:33, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
::What part of '''''WAIT TIL IT AIRS''''' do we not understand? — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 21:36, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

==Drapion==
Should it be included in the Status Unknown? Since he was seen trying to catch one. He looked annoyed after it fled. He wouldn't be annoyed if he only wants to battle it, right?-[[User:Billy4b2004|Billy4b2004]] 09:11, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
: Well if it Fled, It shouldn't be there. --[[User:Force Fire|Force]] [[User talk:Force Fire|''Fire'']] 09:13, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
::Fearow had also fled but we still have it there. And we don't know if he'll try catching it again like what he did with Fearow. -[[User:Billy4b2004|Billy4b2004]] 09:15, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
::: That's because we don't know if he successfully caught it or even caught it at all. But we do know Drapion fled instead of being Captured, Therefore we know he never succeeded in catching Drapion, and never did try again later in the Episode. --[[User:Force Fire|Force]] [[User talk:Force Fire|''Fire'']] 09:19, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

== Fearow ==

Why does it keep getting removed?--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 16:50, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

:Probably due to a question in the Pokémon.com mailbag that states that Paul did not succeed in catching the Fearow. Of course, that answer is more than likely dub-biased, there's no such statement made concerning the original Japanese version, and if Paul suddenly shows up with a Fearow in hand...--[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 17:07, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Oh, I didn't know about that, OK thank you--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 17:09, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
:Hmm...the Pokémon on the "Unknown Status" section are there because we do not know where they are...but what about his Torterra, Weavile, Honchkrow, Gliscor, and Magmar? As of the current episode, we can't be sure if all of them are still with him. So does this go by the last episode he appeared in or by the current episode?--[[Bulbapedia:Project Custom Sprite|☆]][[User:Tavisource|Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 00:57, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
::Last episode of appearance. When he appears again, the whole process is repeated. [[User:Jmath|'''Jm''']][[User talk:Jmath|'''a''']][[Special:Contributions/Jmath|'''th''']] 14:05, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

== has ==

for not letting me submit my trivia, i have deleted this article and some more - ''unsigned comment from {{u|SuperbowserX}} ([[User talk:SuperbowserX|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/SuperbowserX|contribs]]){{ #if: | {{{2}}} |}}''

:No, you just blanked the pages. Easily undone. And it was bad trivia anyway. You couldn't be more in the wrong here. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 15:06, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

WELL AT LEAST I AM NOT A JERK - ''unsigned comment from {{u|SuperbowserX}} ([[User talk:SuperbowserX|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/SuperbowserX|contribs]]){{ #if: | {{{2}}} |}}''

:Oh, like I am? I'm only trying to restore order and peace to Bulbapedia. If that makes me a jerk, you must hate the majority of users here. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 15:16, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

I think that you should just put this aside. (BTW, What trivia?) - [[User:ElectricArbok|ElectricArbok]], 14:04, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

seriously dont get so fuckin butt hurt by trivia, EVERYONE here has put at least one thing on a page that wasnt good i mean hey ive prolly put at least like 7 ok and i dont care. just let it go not all of your submissions will be accepted [[User:Happizelpom|Happi]][[User talk:Happizelpom|zel]][[Special:Contributions/Happizelpom|pom]] 22:52, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
:What [[User:Happizelpom|Happi]][[User talk:Happizelpom|zel]][[Special:Contributions/Happizelpom|pom]] said - [[User:ElectricArbok|ElectricArbok]], 20:19, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

== Graveler ==

We never saw Paul release it from a Pokéball or catch it...so isn't it possible it was a WILD Graveler? So I don't think it should even be here. Unlike Ninjask, we saw him catch it in a Pokéball...so the two are vastly different. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 12:25, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
:Right, I was wondering too, but the statement puzzles me whether it's true or not. --×'''[[User:Kevzo8|Ke]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|vz]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|o8]]''' 12:31, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
::But, then again. What made you think it was his.--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 12:34, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

== Okay, with the team already! ==

DP118 has aired already, and the only Pokémon in it was his Honchkrow. Can we just make a section like [[May (anime)|May's]] page and list the most recent roster of Pokemon? -- [[User:ElectricArbok|ElectricArbok]], 23:39, 20 March 2009
:Not really needed. That note on May's team is because we don't know which of the seven she actually had with her. With Paul, we have five and that's ok. It's just assumed that he keeps the same as last time. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 01:18, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

== Hariyama?? ==

is it true that Paul has a Hariyama.. well basically based on DP120...[[User talk:Gaspershut|just gasper]]
:It's already in there, just hidden.--[[User:Force Fire|FF]]([[Special:Contributions/Force Fire|edits]]•[[User talk:Force Fire|talk]]) 08:50, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
::Why though. I know that whole "wait till it airs" thing, but it was already shown that it was his. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 14:06, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

== Electabuzz and Ursaring ==

Why does it say that Electabuzz and Ursaring are in "status unknown"? In Lost leader strategy, Reggie told Ash that Paul lets him breed some of his pokemon till Paul needs them in a battle or something. Is it possible, that Electabuzz and Ursaring are at home, but can be called upon at any time (like Ash's Sqirte and Charizard)?--[[User:Tomas|Tomas]] 17:27, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
:Its possible, NOT proven. its Speculation, and we are an encyclopedia, not a amateur site {{tt|.|like wikia :D}} [[User:DCM]] 17:30, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

== Can we put this fact in the Trivia or in the page? ==

Ok, I was watching the DP101 English version. After [[Barry]] mentioned [[Paul]], [[Ash]] says to himself "that jerk". Can we publish this? {{unsigned|Subscriber0101}}
:Um... why? --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 08:09, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

Subscriber0101 - I find it interesting, and i see that as a important fact.
::What's so important about it? We don't need to put "the jerk" or anything else into the article just because someone says it, right? ♥ [[User:Csisps_26|Csisps_26]] ''([[User talk:Csisps_26|ViSiT]])'' ♥ 15:19, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

== We're gonna have to change the "On Hand" section again... ==

After watching the DP128 preview, it is clear that Paul uses Hariyama, Magmar, Electabuzz, Nidoking and Ursaring in battle against Brandon. I don't think he would get rid of Torterra, but we're gonna have to move Gliscor, Weavile and Honchkrow to the "Status Unknown" section. [[User:Dilophosaurus Rex|Dilophosaurus Rex]] 14:21, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
:Wait 'til it airs... --[[User:Nick.|Nick.]], <sc>[[User talk:Nick.|something to say?]]</sc> 14:24, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
::Nidoking? --×[[User talk:Impoleon xy|'''Impoleon xy''']]× 16:48, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
:::Yeah, in the DP128 preview there is a Nidoking attacking Brandon's Registeel. 99% sure it is Pauls Nidoking. [[User:Dilophosaurus Rex|Dilophosaurus Rex]] 17:03, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
:::: well I say yes to Dilophosaurus Rex that Paul has a Nidoking it is very clear in the preview and for sure that Paul uses it cause no one is fighting at Brandon except Paul right???? --[[User:Gaspershut|''GASPER'']][[User talk:Gaspershut|''shut...'']] 11:22, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
:::::Unless the preview stated that it's Paul's Nidoking, nothing goes anywhere. Brandon could be attacked by a wild Nidoking before fighting Paul for all we know. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 11:25, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
To be fair, since Hariyama is already shown as on hand shouldn't the list be updated with Electabuzz and Ursaring. You can't show one Pokémon being on hand based on a preview and not the other two... [[User:Watchermark|Watchermark]] 18:03, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
: Also the whole Status "Unknown" seems too weird for me. I mean really Torterra? Almost sounds like he may have released, even if that's not what the status unknown means. --[[User:Dman dustin|Dman dustin]] 12:25, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

== Page for Magmar? ==

Isn't it about damn time Paul's Magmar gets a page? Seriously, how many times does it have to appear to get its own page? It appeared in DP066 defeating Maylene's Lucario, it appeared in DP100, it will appear in DP128 fighting against Brandon's Registeel, and according to the latest Bulbanews item, it will even evolve and fight against Ash. That's more than Gliscor and Weavile ever did, and yet they do have pages and Magmar doesn't. [[User:Dilophosaurus Rex|Dilophosaurus Rex]] 18:07, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
:Let's see, how much screentime has Magmar actually had? 15 seconds? --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 03:52, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
::Well, it is going to get more. [[User:J-J-M|'''J''']]'''-'''[[User talk:J-J-M|'''J''']]'''-'''[[Special:Contributions/J-J-M|'''M''']] 05:27, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
:::And when it does, we'll do the page. It still isn't confirmed it's the same Pokémon yet. He could have just captured it because it was stronger than Magmar. Wait til it airs. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 05:30, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
:::: Even if it was a different Magmar, why would there be more than one article? I mean the only reason would be if hypothetically Tauros gets an evolution, and one of Ash's Tauros evolves, the Tauros article would remain but a new article would be created for the new evolution. Of course this isn't the case with Paul, it's highly unlikely Paul has more than a few Magmar. --[[User:Dman dustin|Dman dustin]] 12:27, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
:::::Yeah, and maybe Paul's using a new Torterra because his old one lost to Cynthia's Garchomp. I think that you're just speculating too far. Also, it's going to be a Magmortar by [[DP131]], so we might as well give it a page then. -- [[User:ElectricArbok|ElectricArbok]]

==Pokémon Order==

Considering that Paul rotates his main team between 7 pokémon, meaning that at least one of them is always under status unknown, shouldn't those ones be kept up under his on hand pokémon? --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 00:32, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

==Changing "On Hand" to "Rotated in Team"==

Personally, I think we do what Serebii did, and change On Hand to Rotated in Team. Honestly, if Torterra isn't on his team, are we just gonna assume that he could have released it? I just can't see him releasing anyone else. What do you guys think? [[User:Master Lucario|Master Lucario]]
:We are not Serebii.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Ho-Oh (Pokémon)|orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Lugia (Pokémon)|ire]] 02:00, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
::No, but it's a very good idea. I say do it. [[User:Reign|Reign]] 21:27, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

== unsatisfactory ==

What is wrong with jpg.?They look just fine.--'''[[wp:Wikipedia|Wiki]]'''[[User:Tomas|''Tomas'']] 10:45, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

:The preferred format for anime images is PNG. That's why the unsatisfactory tag is up.

:However, it's best advised to take fresh PNGs rather than convert existing JPEGs. Converting JPEGs transfers the current quality of the JPEG into the PNG image, and it's best to avoid that except in the most extreme of circumstances. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 16:31, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
I Still don't get why jpg. is worse than png.--'''[[wp:Wikipedia|Wiki]]'''[[User:Tomas|''Tomas'']] 17:59, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
:JPEG is a lossy image format. PNG is lossless. Google or Wiki those terms if you don't understand them. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 18:07, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
::Though, it is hard to come by fresh PNGs now a days since no one is making raws of the episodes. So now we most rely on conversion. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 21:50, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
:::Do you check the episode threads on 2chan? They tend to post really high-quality caps (as in 1440px width sometimes) while the episode airs. That's just for the newly-aired episodes, though, so... [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 22:11, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

== what happened to appereances? ==

Why was that section deleted?--'''[[wp:Wikipedia|Wiki]]'''[[User:Tomas|''Tomas'']] 14:22, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
:Because many users opposed it and were reverted by the {{u|Ash Ketchum Peru|one that added them}}. The user then started calling them "jerks" or "stupid jerks" and was blocked for a {{tt|week|it was originally for a month}}. Besides, they weren't really necessary. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 22:15, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
Well, thanks for the explanation.

Talk:Aura

2009-12-18T14:28:30Z

Tomas: /* Water Pulse */

Okay... so, someone who's read Special, is {{special|Yellow}}'s ability Aura-like? And if so, should she, [[Rui]], {{Ash}}, and any others with the aura ability be plopped into one category? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 17:15, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Yellow's powers could just as easily be Psychic abilities. Considering that when it was written, that was the only special powers humans could have in Pokemon, that's probably what they were intended to be viewed as. --[[User:Zeta|Zeta]] 18:11, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
:Hmm... Well, what of Rui in Colosseum? Aura may not have officially debuted until late Gen III, but ehh... And wasn't Yellow in the FRLG arc of Special, too? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 18:26, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
:: I say we just handle it the way Bulbapedia handles everything: Don't add it unless we ''know'' [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 19:11, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
:::Well, we ''do'' know, since in Colo/XD they're all like "I CAN SEE ITS AURA" and "AURA READER" and stuff, plus, Colo/XD's Shadow Pokémon are mentioned here. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 18:46, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
:::: That's fair enough for Rui. Was Yellow's ability ever reffered to as Aura, though? [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 11:22, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
:::::Didn't Sabrina imply that Aura and Psychic abilities are the same thing, though? I mean, she did mention something along the lines of Psychic powers making up all forms of life, and yet only a select few lifeforms are aware that they have it in the first gen and definitely their remakes (which was what Aura was described as in a nutshell.) [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 13:40, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::: Maybe. You can be telekenetic without looking like a refugee from Dragonball, though. [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 10:24, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Ok, I added in the Sabrina reference to the article if that's ok. I also wanted to ask something. Cassius, exactly what did you mean by "You can be a telekinetic without looking like a refugee from dragonball"? I mean, I know the Dragonball. It just didn't make any sense as to what you said, that's all. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 13:03, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

== Qi ==

More likely a reference to Chi than Star Wars. Someone shift the emphasis, please. --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 03:47, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
:If you come up with a good enough case for qi, I'll put it on the page.Otherwise, the star wars is right[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|DCM]]
::Considering the way Dragon Ball Z represented qi (or ki as it's called there) and how it can be used as a visible projectile and literally makes characters glow with an aura, I would say that my case is made. Also, the "aura is with me" phrase might not appear the same way in the Japanese version, while the comparisons with Dragon Ball Z would be near impossible to dismiss as a possible localization.
::The Force does not get stronger as a battle goes on. The Force isn't a life force, since [[wikipedia:Yuuzhan Vong]] are alive and are not connected to the Force.
::Really, "Ash's status as the lone person who can control aura is similar to that of Luke Skywalker during the original trilogy" is pushing it. Hard. --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 02:22, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

:::Dragon Ball Z is perhaps the best way to compare Hadou/Aura (波導) and Ki (気, which in Chinese is pronounced qi and in Japan as ki). If you look at DBZ, most attacks in the series use Ki, a person's fighting spirit/inner strength, whereas certain special attacks use something different, such as the Spirit Bomb which uses spirit/life energy, and seems to be analogous to the use of Hadou/Aura which appears to be how the Pokémon World refers to life energy (you could say that Goku's Spirit Bomb is pretty much a super huge Aura Sphere). But, if you use up your fighting spirit, you become exhausted, but use up all of your life energy, and you're dead, such was the case with Sir Aaron and later his Lucario. So attacks such as Focus Blast (Kiai dame, most likely meaning inner-strength reservoir) and Focus Punch (Kiai Punch, inner-strength punch) use ki, whereas Aura Sphere (hadou dan, wave-guiding mass) uses hadou/aura, life energy. Though the use of Aura sphere seems to use the aura gathered from around the user (hence being referred to wave-''guiding''), which explains why continual use doesn't kill the user. Perhaps even the whole system of PP is based on ki, the fighting energy, which would explain why Focus Blast which uses one's own ki directly outside the body is so powerful but only has a base of 5 PP, but Focus Punch, which keeps the energy in the body (one's fist) has so much more. That both Focus attacks use Ki directly and that they are fighting-type moves gives credence that they are based on the Martial Art's use of kiai and explains their Japanese names. The fact is: Hadou/Aura is not the same as Ki/Qi, but it's not unrelated either. --[[User:Wikifixer|Wikifixer]] 21:02, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
::::It probably is based on energy sources such as Qi and Chakra but the Star Wars influence is clear from the repeated use of "The Aura is with me". I don't think Ash being the last one is pushing it either - the whole premise of the Aura Guardians is basically a fantasy version of the Jedi. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 00:22, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

:::Well, I pretty much broke my unspoken rule about never participating in talk page discussions, but I feel I'm enough of a Star Wars geek to merit that. I'd like to point out several things. First of all, the sentence comparing Ash with Luke Skywalker is misleading and inaccurate. Luke was NOT the only one in the original trilogy who could use the Force. (Darth Vader, anyone? Not to mention Obi-Wan, Palpatine, Yoda, and <s>Leia.</s>) Now if it turned out that Cyrus could control aura and then he revealed himself as Ash's father...then yeah, the comparison between the two would gain much more credibility. Furthermore, to me it seems like aura is more related to ki/chakra in both form and function than to the Force. Also, note the background of the people who created the aura concept. While I'm not saying that they've never heard of Star Wars, given the creators' propensity for references to Eastern culture, it's definitely not a stretch at all to say they based aura off of the Eastern idea of ki, while it is somewhat further of a stretch to assume that they at least initially based it off of the Force. I guess what I'm trying to say is that the Inspiration section of the article seems like it was written on the assumption that the creators/writers got their main inspiration from a movie and then as a secondary source used a traditional concept from their culture of origin. (In fact, I'm pretty sure Lucas himself based aspects of the Force off of ki.) I feel like it should be re-written with heavier emphasis on ki and a small blurb at the end about the Force (because in light of things such as the Aura Guardians and "the aura is with me", it's entirely possible that they did at least have some influence from SW). Also, is "the aura is with me" a dub phrase, or is it directly translated from the original? If it's not the original phrasing, I suggest someone do some digging and find the original Japanese, because it's entirely possible that the dub writers decided to consciously use a phrase similar to the classic SW phrase, as it would definitely not be the first time they've work in popular culture references. I'm sorry this was so long; free cookies for whoever read this far. If nobody objects, I'll go ahead and change it. [[User:Lucentas|Lucentas]] 22:02, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

::::Has anyone ever considered that maybe, just maybe, Lucas didn't invent the force himself, and that there might be the possibility that Lucas and Pokemon based their idea of a similar concept coincidentally off of a shared idea? For reference, Lucas admitted to basing his concept of "the Force" off of this short film: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/21-87 . With that in mind, I really don't see how hard it is for someone to dig into 21-87's history and figure out where the original concept here was based off of, especially considering that "the force" is referred to as God or a god in the film. [[User:Crenel|Crenel]] 06:25, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

==Water Pulse==
Water Pulse doesn't use Aura.[[User:Shadow1337|Shadow1337]] 13:46, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
:Yeah, thats true. Why then, when Ash is battling Maylene, does Buizel learn water pulse by copying lucario? On top of that, they look the same. Have nintendo gane mad? In the games water pulse and aura sphere look soooooo different. It's madness. I'll put a copy of this on the episode discussion page. Please reply :) [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK]] 13:31, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
I personally think that the energy used for water pulse is diferent than the energy of aura sphere, but maybe the way the energy is being used is similair and that's why the moves look similair.--'''[[wp:Wikipedia|Wiki]]'''[[User:Tomas|''Tomas'']] 14:46, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

Or maybe Water Pulse originated as an aura move, but sorta changed into a non-aura move through time. This would back up my theory of move evolution. [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK]] 14:01, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

Yes' that could be it too.--'''[[wp:Wikipedia|Wiki]]'''[[User:Tomas|''Tomas'']] 14:28, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

== Mystery Dungeon ==
Actually, the aura at the beginning of PMD2 is merely the "fave color" you have on your ds. for example, start the game over and over, each time changing the test but getting the same nature and pokemon. trust me, the aura will be the same as your fave color.- ''unsigned comment from [[User:sk8torchic|sk8torchic]] ([[User talk:sk8torchic|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/sk8torchic|contribs]]){{ #if: | {{{2}}} |}}''
:No it's not. On my Ds it was Light Blue but then I got Orange, Lime, Red, Light BLue, Orange, And Orange. My brother got his color though. [[User:AuraGuardian0226|AuraGuardian0226]] 16:02, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
:: I got my favorite color (bright pink), but that is probably because of the quiz, although it is strange you kept the same color changing the answers.--[[User:Starlight the ampharos|Starlight_the_ampharos]] 00:36, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Aura

2009-12-18T14:28:04Z

Tomas: /* Water Pulse */

Okay... so, someone who's read Special, is {{special|Yellow}}'s ability Aura-like? And if so, should she, [[Rui]], {{Ash}}, and any others with the aura ability be plopped into one category? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 17:15, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Yellow's powers could just as easily be Psychic abilities. Considering that when it was written, that was the only special powers humans could have in Pokemon, that's probably what they were intended to be viewed as. --[[User:Zeta|Zeta]] 18:11, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
:Hmm... Well, what of Rui in Colosseum? Aura may not have officially debuted until late Gen III, but ehh... And wasn't Yellow in the FRLG arc of Special, too? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 18:26, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
:: I say we just handle it the way Bulbapedia handles everything: Don't add it unless we ''know'' [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 19:11, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
:::Well, we ''do'' know, since in Colo/XD they're all like "I CAN SEE ITS AURA" and "AURA READER" and stuff, plus, Colo/XD's Shadow Pokémon are mentioned here. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 18:46, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
:::: That's fair enough for Rui. Was Yellow's ability ever reffered to as Aura, though? [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 11:22, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
:::::Didn't Sabrina imply that Aura and Psychic abilities are the same thing, though? I mean, she did mention something along the lines of Psychic powers making up all forms of life, and yet only a select few lifeforms are aware that they have it in the first gen and definitely their remakes (which was what Aura was described as in a nutshell.) [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 13:40, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::: Maybe. You can be telekenetic without looking like a refugee from Dragonball, though. [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 10:24, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Ok, I added in the Sabrina reference to the article if that's ok. I also wanted to ask something. Cassius, exactly what did you mean by "You can be a telekinetic without looking like a refugee from dragonball"? I mean, I know the Dragonball. It just didn't make any sense as to what you said, that's all. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 13:03, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

== Qi ==

More likely a reference to Chi than Star Wars. Someone shift the emphasis, please. --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 03:47, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
:If you come up with a good enough case for qi, I'll put it on the page.Otherwise, the star wars is right[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|DCM]]
::Considering the way Dragon Ball Z represented qi (or ki as it's called there) and how it can be used as a visible projectile and literally makes characters glow with an aura, I would say that my case is made. Also, the "aura is with me" phrase might not appear the same way in the Japanese version, while the comparisons with Dragon Ball Z would be near impossible to dismiss as a possible localization.
::The Force does not get stronger as a battle goes on. The Force isn't a life force, since [[wikipedia:Yuuzhan Vong]] are alive and are not connected to the Force.
::Really, "Ash's status as the lone person who can control aura is similar to that of Luke Skywalker during the original trilogy" is pushing it. Hard. --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 02:22, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

:::Dragon Ball Z is perhaps the best way to compare Hadou/Aura (波導) and Ki (気, which in Chinese is pronounced qi and in Japan as ki). If you look at DBZ, most attacks in the series use Ki, a person's fighting spirit/inner strength, whereas certain special attacks use something different, such as the Spirit Bomb which uses spirit/life energy, and seems to be analogous to the use of Hadou/Aura which appears to be how the Pokémon World refers to life energy (you could say that Goku's Spirit Bomb is pretty much a super huge Aura Sphere). But, if you use up your fighting spirit, you become exhausted, but use up all of your life energy, and you're dead, such was the case with Sir Aaron and later his Lucario. So attacks such as Focus Blast (Kiai dame, most likely meaning inner-strength reservoir) and Focus Punch (Kiai Punch, inner-strength punch) use ki, whereas Aura Sphere (hadou dan, wave-guiding mass) uses hadou/aura, life energy. Though the use of Aura sphere seems to use the aura gathered from around the user (hence being referred to wave-''guiding''), which explains why continual use doesn't kill the user. Perhaps even the whole system of PP is based on ki, the fighting energy, which would explain why Focus Blast which uses one's own ki directly outside the body is so powerful but only has a base of 5 PP, but Focus Punch, which keeps the energy in the body (one's fist) has so much more. That both Focus attacks use Ki directly and that they are fighting-type moves gives credence that they are based on the Martial Art's use of kiai and explains their Japanese names. The fact is: Hadou/Aura is not the same as Ki/Qi, but it's not unrelated either. --[[User:Wikifixer|Wikifixer]] 21:02, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
::::It probably is based on energy sources such as Qi and Chakra but the Star Wars influence is clear from the repeated use of "The Aura is with me". I don't think Ash being the last one is pushing it either - the whole premise of the Aura Guardians is basically a fantasy version of the Jedi. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 00:22, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

:::Well, I pretty much broke my unspoken rule about never participating in talk page discussions, but I feel I'm enough of a Star Wars geek to merit that. I'd like to point out several things. First of all, the sentence comparing Ash with Luke Skywalker is misleading and inaccurate. Luke was NOT the only one in the original trilogy who could use the Force. (Darth Vader, anyone? Not to mention Obi-Wan, Palpatine, Yoda, and <s>Leia.</s>) Now if it turned out that Cyrus could control aura and then he revealed himself as Ash's father...then yeah, the comparison between the two would gain much more credibility. Furthermore, to me it seems like aura is more related to ki/chakra in both form and function than to the Force. Also, note the background of the people who created the aura concept. While I'm not saying that they've never heard of Star Wars, given the creators' propensity for references to Eastern culture, it's definitely not a stretch at all to say they based aura off of the Eastern idea of ki, while it is somewhat further of a stretch to assume that they at least initially based it off of the Force. I guess what I'm trying to say is that the Inspiration section of the article seems like it was written on the assumption that the creators/writers got their main inspiration from a movie and then as a secondary source used a traditional concept from their culture of origin. (In fact, I'm pretty sure Lucas himself based aspects of the Force off of ki.) I feel like it should be re-written with heavier emphasis on ki and a small blurb at the end about the Force (because in light of things such as the Aura Guardians and "the aura is with me", it's entirely possible that they did at least have some influence from SW). Also, is "the aura is with me" a dub phrase, or is it directly translated from the original? If it's not the original phrasing, I suggest someone do some digging and find the original Japanese, because it's entirely possible that the dub writers decided to consciously use a phrase similar to the classic SW phrase, as it would definitely not be the first time they've work in popular culture references. I'm sorry this was so long; free cookies for whoever read this far. If nobody objects, I'll go ahead and change it. [[User:Lucentas|Lucentas]] 22:02, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

::::Has anyone ever considered that maybe, just maybe, Lucas didn't invent the force himself, and that there might be the possibility that Lucas and Pokemon based their idea of a similar concept coincidentally off of a shared idea? For reference, Lucas admitted to basing his concept of "the Force" off of this short film: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/21-87 . With that in mind, I really don't see how hard it is for someone to dig into 21-87's history and figure out where the original concept here was based off of, especially considering that "the force" is referred to as God or a god in the film. [[User:Crenel|Crenel]] 06:25, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

==Water Pulse==
Water Pulse doesn't use Aura.[[User:Shadow1337|Shadow1337]] 13:46, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
:Yeah, thats true. Why then, when Ash is battling Maylene, does Buizel learn water pulse by copying lucario? On top of that, they look the same. Have nintendo gane mad? In the games water pulse and aura sphere look soooooo different. It's madness. I'll put a copy of this on the episode discussion page. Please reply :) [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK]] 13:31, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
I personally think that the energy used for water pulse is diferent than the energy of aura sphere, but maybe the way the energy is being used is similair and that's why the moves look similair.--'''[[wp:Wikipedia|Wiki]]'''[[User:Tomas|''Tomas'']] 14:46, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

Or maybe Water Pulse originated as an aura move, but sorta changed into a non-aura move through time. This would back up my theory of move evolution. [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK]] 14:01, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
Yes' that could be it too.--'''[[wp:Wikipedia|Wiki]]'''[[User:Tomas|''Tomas'']] 14:28, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

== Mystery Dungeon ==
Actually, the aura at the beginning of PMD2 is merely the "fave color" you have on your ds. for example, start the game over and over, each time changing the test but getting the same nature and pokemon. trust me, the aura will be the same as your fave color.- ''unsigned comment from [[User:sk8torchic|sk8torchic]] ([[User talk:sk8torchic|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/sk8torchic|contribs]]){{ #if: | {{{2}}} |}}''
:No it's not. On my Ds it was Light Blue but then I got Orange, Lime, Red, Light BLue, Orange, And Orange. My brother got his color though. [[User:AuraGuardian0226|AuraGuardian0226]] 16:02, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
:: I got my favorite color (bright pink), but that is probably because of the quiz, although it is strange you kept the same color changing the answers.--[[User:Starlight the ampharos|Starlight_the_ampharos]] 00:36, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Paul

2009-12-18T14:22:07Z

Tomas: /* what happened to appereances? */ new section

Talk:M13

2009-12-16T16:34:21Z

Tomas: /* Diamond And Pearl? */

Does anybody know here who this so-called ''Phantom Ruler Z'' is? [[User:Mamoswine Gliscor|MamoswineGliscor]] 02:50, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
:No. The movie isn't even close to being out yet. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]] 02:52, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
::It's a movie not a username. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 02:53, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
:::Probably a Gen V Pokémon, knowing how the past three movies have released an initial title, and then later revealed a "new" (event) Pokémon from DPPt... considering there's no more right now... we may have the beginning of Gen V on our hands. However, no matter what I think, no speculation please. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:14, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

== How is there already ratings? ==

Especially for Australia?--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 04:43, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
:Yeah, when were they confirmed? '''[[User:CuboneKing|Cubone]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]]''' ([[User talk:CuboneKing|Planet Cubone]] • [[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|Bone Club]]) 04:55, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
::I don't know if I can edit it.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 04:56, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
:::I can. '''[[User:CuboneKing|Cubone]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]]''' ([[User talk:CuboneKing|Planet Cubone]] • [[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|Bone Club]]) 04:58, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
::::Did I leave one in there? My bad. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:12, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

== Lugia and Ho-oh ==

Is this the same movie that has the battle between Lugia and Ho-oh in it? [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 13:48, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
:Though Lugia and Ho-oh were not showed in this particular trailer, the image of them battling still remains on the official movie website, so yeah it's the same... Lugia and Ho-oh's roles just aren't known yet ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 14:00, 11 December 2009 (UTC))
So, why don't we list those two Pokémon, and take out that last trivia fact? They're going to be there; absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. The teaser showed them, and that's that.--[[User:Skulblaka Shurtugal|Skulblaka Shurtugal]] 23:17, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
:I point to Palkia in movie 11. It was on the first poster and, oh look, not in the movie. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 07:39, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
::Well, being in the first poster is a bit different from being in first teaser, in my opinion. There were other movies which posters contained Pokémon that not participated in the movie itself. [[Jirachi: Wish Maker]] for example, with {{AP|Treecko}} and {{TP|Brock|Mudkip}}. However, it may be better to wait further information. -- [[User:RikkiKitsune|R<s>ikki</s>]][[User talk:RikkiKitsune|Kitsune]] 16:29, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
:::Either way, it'll be out in July. We'll find out more before then, but that's gonna be when our answer is. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 10:01, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

== Diamond And Pearl? ==

Why Is This Classed As A Diamond And Pearl Series? Surely It Should Be In The Heart Gold And Soul Silver Series. Anyone Agree? After All The DP Trilogy Ended If I Remember Rightly! --[[User:Manaphy1|Manaphy1]] 16:29, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
:No. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]] 16:32, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
::No confirmation has been made about any new series, or about the DP series ending. Plus, if I'm not mistaken, the DP series logo is used on the movie website. May I remind you that the Battle Frontier seasons were in the same series as the Hoenn seasons? I don't think it's likely they'll create a new series for HGSS. Possible, but not likely. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 16:34, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
:::I highly, HIGHLY doubt they're creating a HGSS series; they're about to give DP a new opening theme! So yes, this will most definitely be a DP movie. (Also way to make my first reply look totally unhelpful, Buzz{{tt|.|...okay, so it was unhelpful, but still}} [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]] 16:52, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
::::It's still the DP series, just like how AG didn't become a FRLG series or an Emerald series. We have a different colorscheme for Battle Frontier, LMM, and PRTOTS because it focuses on the Emerald features, so this has an HGSS colorscheme because it focuses on HGSS's features; likely Season 13 or 14 will, too. Undoubtedly, I'd say, we'll be having Movie 14 be in Johto as well. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:48, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

so its considered to fall in the DPPt series until further notice, that's all to it from now on I suggest.--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 10:58, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
:There is no "DPPt" series. There's the DP series. And it will continue to fall into that series until all eternity, unless they'll decide to start a new series, which is extremely unlikely. Conversation over. Stop talking about it. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 13:41, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
::It's not unlikely. It just won't happen until Gen V. HGSS is Gen IV. As long as Dawn's around, it will be DP. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 07:38, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
And why couldn't the anime have a hgss series? Original series - gen 1 and 2.Hoenn- gen 3 (ruby and saphire), the battle frontier - fire red and leaf green versions.Sinnoh - gen 4 (Diamond, pearl and platinium), and as hgss came out, the anime will probably follow ash's journey to Johto once more. {{unsigned|Tomas}}
:Oy. You just don't understand what we're talking about. We're not saying the anime won't follow HGSS, of course it will, just that those seasons will still fall into the {{series|Diamond & Pearl}}, in the same way that the Battle Frontier seasons were still a part of the {{series|Advanced Generation}}. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 14:47, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
Well yes, on my understanding they should fall into the DP series.--'''[[wp:Wikipedia|Wiki]]'''[[User:Tomas|''Tomas'']] 16:34, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

== actual name ==

its actually phantom champion Z, its the champion kanji not the ruler, please rename.--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 18:27, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
:It can be translated as champion, but I chose the "ruler" translation instead so as not to cause confusion with the Pokemon League title of Champion. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]] 18:42, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
No, its not what you think will be confused, bulbapedia should be a reliable source of info not one that goes with whatever we users want so some admin should change the name once and for all.--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 13:55, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
::I don't think you're getting this... Phantom Champion Z is not an "official" name either (It's the one I came up with and Serebii used actually lol... XD ) All three of the translations out there are just fine, and no one is better than the other... At this point we don't know enough about the story or the characters in it to make an accurate judgment of what the proper translation should be, so therefore it should stay "Phantom Ruler Z" until something is revealed that suggests otherwise, which might not even happen because it could be 100% accurate. ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 14:02, 13 December 2009 (UTC))

== How do we know his name is The Phantom? ==

I'm curious b/c I don't remember anyone saying anything.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 06:23, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
:Uh what? If you're talking about that pirate guy, he was in movie 9. This likely has nothing to do with him... it's like how there've been ''several'' [[Jimmy|Jimmies]], but only one has encountered {{p|Raikou}}. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 10:00, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
::No, someone added into the article something along the lines of "he is called the Phantom" but it's already been taken care of :p ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 10:04, 15 December 2009 (UTC))

Talk:M13

2009-12-16T14:41:58Z

Tomas: /* Diamond And Pearl? */

Does anybody know here who this so-called ''Phantom Ruler Z'' is? [[User:Mamoswine Gliscor|MamoswineGliscor]] 02:50, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
:No. The movie isn't even close to being out yet. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]] 02:52, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
::It's a movie not a username. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 02:53, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
:::Probably a Gen V Pokémon, knowing how the past three movies have released an initial title, and then later revealed a "new" (event) Pokémon from DPPt... considering there's no more right now... we may have the beginning of Gen V on our hands. However, no matter what I think, no speculation please. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:14, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

== How is there already ratings? ==

Especially for Australia?--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 04:43, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
:Yeah, when were they confirmed? '''[[User:CuboneKing|Cubone]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]]''' ([[User talk:CuboneKing|Planet Cubone]] • [[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|Bone Club]]) 04:55, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
::I don't know if I can edit it.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 04:56, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
:::I can. '''[[User:CuboneKing|Cubone]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]]''' ([[User talk:CuboneKing|Planet Cubone]] • [[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|Bone Club]]) 04:58, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
::::Did I leave one in there? My bad. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:12, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

== Lugia and Ho-oh ==

Is this the same movie that has the battle between Lugia and Ho-oh in it? [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 13:48, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
:Though Lugia and Ho-oh were not showed in this particular trailer, the image of them battling still remains on the official movie website, so yeah it's the same... Lugia and Ho-oh's roles just aren't known yet ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 14:00, 11 December 2009 (UTC))
So, why don't we list those two Pokémon, and take out that last trivia fact? They're going to be there; absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. The teaser showed them, and that's that.--[[User:Skulblaka Shurtugal|Skulblaka Shurtugal]] 23:17, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
:I point to Palkia in movie 11. It was on the first poster and, oh look, not in the movie. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 07:39, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
::Well, being in the first poster is a bit different from being in first teaser, in my opinion. There were other movies which posters contained Pokémon that not participated in the movie itself. [[Jirachi: Wish Maker]] for example, with {{AP|Treecko}} and {{TP|Brock|Mudkip}}. However, it may be better to wait further information. -- [[User:RikkiKitsune|R<s>ikki</s>]][[User talk:RikkiKitsune|Kitsune]] 16:29, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
:::Either way, it'll be out in July. We'll find out more before then, but that's gonna be when our answer is. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 10:01, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

== Diamond And Pearl? ==

Why Is This Classed As A Diamond And Pearl Series? Surely It Should Be In The Heart Gold And Soul Silver Series. Anyone Agree? After All The DP Trilogy Ended If I Remember Rightly! --[[User:Manaphy1|Manaphy1]] 16:29, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
:No. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]] 16:32, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
::No confirmation has been made about any new series, or about the DP series ending. Plus, if I'm not mistaken, the DP series logo is used on the movie website. May I remind you that the Battle Frontier seasons were in the same series as the Hoenn seasons? I don't think it's likely they'll create a new series for HGSS. Possible, but not likely. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 16:34, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
:::I highly, HIGHLY doubt they're creating a HGSS series; they're about to give DP a new opening theme! So yes, this will most definitely be a DP movie. (Also way to make my first reply look totally unhelpful, Buzz{{tt|.|...okay, so it was unhelpful, but still}} [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]] 16:52, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
::::It's still the DP series, just like how AG didn't become a FRLG series or an Emerald series. We have a different colorscheme for Battle Frontier, LMM, and PRTOTS because it focuses on the Emerald features, so this has an HGSS colorscheme because it focuses on HGSS's features; likely Season 13 or 14 will, too. Undoubtedly, I'd say, we'll be having Movie 14 be in Johto as well. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:48, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

so its considered to fall in the DPPt series until further notice, that's all to it from now on I suggest.--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 10:58, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
:There is no "DPPt" series. There's the DP series. And it will continue to fall into that series until all eternity, unless they'll decide to start a new series, which is extremely unlikely. Conversation over. Stop talking about it. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 13:41, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
::It's not unlikely. It just won't happen until Gen V. HGSS is Gen IV. As long as Dawn's around, it will be DP. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 07:38, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
And why couldn't the anime have a hgss series? Original series - gen 1 and 2.Hoenn- gen 3 (ruby and saphire), the battle frontier - fire red and leaf green versions.Sinnoh - gen 4 (Diamond, pearl and platinium), and as hgss came out, the anime will probably follow ash's journey to Johto once more.

== actual name ==

its actually phantom champion Z, its the champion kanji not the ruler, please rename.--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 18:27, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
:It can be translated as champion, but I chose the "ruler" translation instead so as not to cause confusion with the Pokemon League title of Champion. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]] 18:42, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
No, its not what you think will be confused, bulbapedia should be a reliable source of info not one that goes with whatever we users want so some admin should change the name once and for all.--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 13:55, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
::I don't think you're getting this... Phantom Champion Z is not an "official" name either (It's the one I came up with and Serebii used actually lol... XD ) All three of the translations out there are just fine, and no one is better than the other... At this point we don't know enough about the story or the characters in it to make an accurate judgment of what the proper translation should be, so therefore it should stay "Phantom Ruler Z" until something is revealed that suggests otherwise, which might not even happen because it could be 100% accurate. ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 14:02, 13 December 2009 (UTC))

== How do we know his name is The Phantom? ==

I'm curious b/c I don't remember anyone saying anything.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 06:23, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
:Uh what? If you're talking about that pirate guy, he was in movie 9. This likely has nothing to do with him... it's like how there've been ''several'' [[Jimmy|Jimmies]], but only one has encountered {{p|Raikou}}. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 10:00, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
::No, someone added into the article something along the lines of "he is called the Phantom" but it's already been taken care of :p ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 10:04, 15 December 2009 (UTC))

Talk:Barry's Empoleon

2009-12-07T12:18:30Z

Tomas: /* Proof? */

==Proof?==
Was there proof that Empoleon is Jun's starter and he raised it from a Piplup or is this just a guess? --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 04:04, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
:Its probably just a guess based off of the game[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]
::Well then we got no buisness displaying it as such unless it's confirmed. Though, it most likely is. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 04:07, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
:::Maybe he mentioned it in the episode. I don't understand what they're talking though I watch them. If not, it's probably a guess. --[[User:Kevzo8|Ke]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|vz]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|o8]] 04:12, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
::::I watched them, and I didn't hear anything about Pochama or Pottaishi. Even PM subs didn't show anything. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 07:16, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::So what happens if the dub mentions them? Then what? --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 08:21, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
::::::''mentioned in dub only'' --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 09:03, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
Accually, there is proof in the dub.In the episode [[DP122|Stopped in the Name of Love!]] [[Barry]] says: "I'll tell you, the evolutionary road from {{p|Piplup}} to {{p|Empoleon}} only gets harder and harder, you just mark my words". You can watch part of the episode where he says it here: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LndjbmJzg4] It's going to be around 04:40 when he starts saying it. I think that's enough proof for it to be announced his starter.--'''[[wp:Wikipedia|Wiki]]'''[[User:Tomas|''Tomas'']] 17:40, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

:Sorry, but that sounds like a very similar case in [[Drew]] explaining to [[Brianna]] about {{p|Vibrava}}'s evolution path to {{p|Flygon}}. Any attempt to use that as outright proof that Drew was known to have possessed his Flygon in the Vibrava stage was shot down. My [[$1|2¢]]: That ain't proof at all. For all we know, Barry captured a wild Empoleon and just happens to know about its evolution path enough to describe it. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 18:01, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
::Or that he had another Empoleon which evolved from a Piplup. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 18:04, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Shiningpikablu252, i bet you didn't even watched that part of the episode that was in the link.Turtwig A, on your oppinion, where did he put that other empoleon?--'''[[wp:Wikipedia|Wiki]]'''[[User:Tomas|''Tomas'']] 18:50, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
:He could have it in his party and not have been revealed to have it yet. Also, did it say that in the Japanese version? [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 18:54, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

::I most definitely watched that part of the episode. You don't need to have picked Piplup as a starter to know its evolutionary path. Even if Barry did have it in the Piplup stage, which we DON'T know if he did or not, that STILL doesn't prove that he picked it for a starter. For all we know, he could have caught a wild Piplup somewhere and ditched his starter. And before you go trying to disprove the possibility of catching a wild Piplup, just ask {{TP|Ash|Bulbasaur}}, {{TP|Ash|Chikorita}}, {{TP|Ash|Cyndaquil}}, {{TP|Ash|Totodile}}, {{TP|Ash|Treecko}}, {{TP|Brock|Mudkip}}, and {{TP|Paul|Chimchar}} about their lives before joining their initial trainers. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 19:15, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
:::He could've also left Turtwig with Professor Rowan and took a Piplup with him like May did around the start of the BF series. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 19:20, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
Ditched his starter?That looks more like something Paul would do, but Barry probably wouldn't, because he, unlike Paul loves his pokemon.--'''[[wp:Wikipedia|Wiki]]'''[[User:Tomas|''Tomas'']] 19:43, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
:He could've accidentally released it like the case with {{TP|Dawn|Pachirisu}}, but unlike that, he probably never found it after releasing it. But still, this is all just speculation saying that Barry ditched his starter, he found a wild Empoleon or a wild Piplup/Prinplup which evolved into Empoleon, he just knows about the evolutionary path, Piplup was his true starter, he was given a Piplup by a random stranger, or that he got Piplup in a trade, etc. — it's all speculation no matter which way you go so it's being said that he never got it as a Piplup and it is not his starter. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 19:59, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
Alright, maybe you are right.--'''[[wp:Wikipedia|Wiki]]'''[[User:Tomas|''Tomas'']] 12:18, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Barry's Empoleon

2009-12-05T20:15:56Z

Tomas: /* Proof? */

Talk:Barry's Empoleon

2009-12-05T19:43:32Z

Tomas: /* Proof? */

==Proof?==
Was there proof that Empoleon is Jun's starter and he raised it from a Piplup or is this just a guess? --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 04:04, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
:Its probably just a guess based off of the game[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]
::Well then we got no buisness displaying it as such unless it's confirmed. Though, it most likely is. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 04:07, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
:::Maybe he mentioned it in the episode. I don't understand what they're talking though I watch them. If not, it's probably a guess. --[[User:Kevzo8|Ke]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|vz]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|o8]] 04:12, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
::::I watched them, and I didn't hear anything about Pochama or Pottaishi. Even PM subs didn't show anything. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 07:16, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::So what happens if the dub mentions them? Then what? --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 08:21, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
::::::''mentioned in dub only'' --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 09:03, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
Accually, there is proof in the dub.In the episode [[DP122|Stopped in the Name of Love!]] [[Barry]] says: "I'll tell you, the evolutionary road from {{p|Piplup}} to {{p|Empoleon}} only gets harder and harder, you just mark my words". You can watch part of the episode where he says it here: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LndjbmJzg4] It's going to be around 04:40 when he starts saying it. I think that's enough proof for it to be announced his starter.--'''[[wp:Wikipedia|Wiki]]'''[[User:Tomas|''Tomas'']] 17:40, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

:Sorry, but that sounds like a very similar case in [[Drew]] explaining to [[Brianna]] about {{p|Vibrava}}'s evolution path to {{p|Flygon}}. Any attempt to use that as outright proof that Drew was known to have possessed his Flygon in the Vibrava stage was shot down. My [[$1|2¢]]: That ain't proof at all. For all we know, Barry captured a wild Empoleon and just happens to know about its evolution path enough to describe it. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 18:01, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
::Or that he had another Empoleon which evolved from a Piplup. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 18:04, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Shiningpikablu252, i bet you didn't even watched that part of the episode that was in the link.Turtwig A, on your oppinion, where did he put that other empoleon?--'''[[wp:Wikipedia|Wiki]]'''[[User:Tomas|''Tomas'']] 18:50, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
:He could have it in his party and not have been revealed to have it yet. Also, did it say that in the Japanese version? [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 18:54, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

::I most definitely watched that part of the episode. You don't need to have picked Piplup as a starter to know its evolutionary path. Even if Barry did have it in the Piplup stage, which we DON'T know if he did or not, that STILL doesn't prove that he picked it for a starter. For all we know, he could have caught a wild Piplup somewhere and ditched his starter. And before you go trying to disprove the possibility of catching a wild Piplup, just ask {{TP|Ash|Bulbasaur}}, {{TP|Ash|Chikorita}}, {{TP|Ash|Cyndaquil}}, {{TP|Ash|Totodile}}, {{TP|Ash|Treecko}}, {{TP|Brock|Mudkip}}, and {{TP|Paul|Chimchar}} about their lives before joining their initial trainers. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 19:15, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
:::He could've also left Turtwig with Professor Rowan and took a Piplup with him like May did around the start of the BF series. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 19:20, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
Ditched hhis starter?That looks more like something Paul would do, but Barry probably wouldn't, because he, unlike Paul loves his pokemon.--'''[[wp:Wikipedia|Wiki]]'''[[User:Tomas|''Tomas'']] 19:43, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Barry's Empoleon

2009-12-05T18:50:04Z

Tomas: /* Proof? */

Talk:Barry's Empoleon

2009-12-05T17:44:26Z

Tomas: /* Proof? */

Talk:Barry's Empoleon

2009-12-05T17:42:26Z

Tomas: /* Proof? */

Talk:Barry's Empoleon

2009-12-05T17:41:45Z

Tomas: /* Proof? */

Talk:Barry's Empoleon

2009-12-05T17:40:46Z

Tomas:

Ash's Gliscor

2009-12-04T20:46:56Z

Tomas: /* Trivia */

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'''Ash's Gliscor''' (Japanese: '''サトシのグライオン''' ''Satoshi's Glion'') is the fourth Pokémon {{pkmn2|caught|caught}} by [[Ash Ketchum]] in the [[Sinnoh]] region. Its Japanese voice actor is ''[[Katsuyuki Konishi]]'' and its English voice actor is [[Marc Thompson]]. As a Gligar, it was voiced by ''Katsuyuki Konishi'' in both Japanese and English.

==History==
Ash caught Gliscor as a Gligar in ''[[DP064|Riding the Winds of Change!]]'' It, along with many other {{p|Gligar}} and a {{TP|Paul|Gliscor}} had become trapped in a city after being blown there by a violent windstorm. Gliscor's attempts at using sonar to navigate out of the city were blocked by the tall buildings, and only served to attract more Gligar and the Pokémon soon formed a pack.

[[Image:Ash's Gligar.png|thumb|left|210px|As a Gligar, with Ash]]
The pack survived by picking fruit from trees, and stealing food from humans. After Ash and his friends helped the pack, {{p|Gligar}} decided to travel with Ash, allowing him to capture it.

Gligar seems to have a habit of sticking out its tongue and winking when appearing. It also has the tendency to crash land on top of Ash due to its inability to glide properly. It would also cry when scolded by Ash as shown in ''[[DP081|Chim - Charred! ]]'' and ''[[DP085|Fighting Fear With Fear!]]''. Not only that, Gligar seems to be a crybaby of sorts, tearing up very often, especially in fear. As a Gligar, it was terribly afraid of heights. Additionally, Gligar seems to be extremely eager to win Ash's attention and approval.

It evolved into a Gliscor in ''[[DP085|Fighting Fear With Fear!]]'' in order to save Ash from a fall. It used the {{DL|Evolution-inducing held item|Razor Fang}} Ash received from {{Gary}} after Gligar had a practice battle with his {{TP|Gary|Umbreon}}. It appears to have kept its personality traits even after evolution, as it still cries when scolded by Ash and also winks and sticks its tongue out.

Since evolution, Gliscor has been used in more battles. In ''[[DP100|Aiding the Enemy]]'', Gliscor was used as a sparring partner by {{TP|Paul|Torterra}} to help illustrate how {{AP|Grotle}} could deal with its reduced speed. In ''[[DP101|Barry's Busting Out All Over!]]'', Gliscor battled [[Barry]]'s {{p|Roserade}} and the battle ended in a tie, with both Pokémon knocking each other out at the same time. In ''[[DP106|A Breed Stampede!]]'', Gliscor learned {{m|Fire Fang}} after being hit by an {{m|Ice Shard}} from {{TP|Dawn|Piloswine|Mamoswine}}, and is revealed to have learned {{m|Screech}} some time off-screen. In ''[[DP108|Dealing With Defensive Types!]]'' it was used in its first gym battle, against [[Byron]], defeating his {{TP|Byron|Bastiodon}}, earning Ash his {{Badge|Mine}}. In ''[[DP127|Sliding Into Seventh!]]'' it was used in the gym battle against [[Candice]], where it was easily defeated by her {{p|Snover}}.

In ''[[DP131|Pedal to the Mettle!]]'', Gliscor battled [[Paul's Torterra]] in Ash's full battle against [[Paul]]. Although it was able to cause a good amount of damage as well as using its speed to dodge Torterra's attacks, it couldn't escape {{m|Giga Drain}}, as a result being weakened while Torterra's health was restored. Ash then decided to recall Gliscor, only to use it again against Torterra later on where it was defeated after being hit with {{m|Frenzy Plant}}.

In [[DP154]], it battled against Mitsuzō's Scizor, where Gliscor learns {{m|Giga Impact}}. Ash left it with him for further training.

==Moves used==
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{{anmu|bug|X-Scissor|DP070|The Bells are Singing!|rec=yes}}
{{anmu|ground|Sand-Attack|DP070|The Bells are Singing!|rec=yes}}
{{anmu|steel|Steel Wing|DP070|The Bells are Singing!|rec=yes}}
{{anmu|normal|Screech|DP106|A Breed Stampede!}}
{{anmu|fire|Fire Fang|DP106|A Breed Stampede!|rec=yes}}
{{anmu|normal|Giga Impact|DP154|rec=yes}}
{{anmu/f|flying}}

==Trivia==
* Ash's capture of Gligar brought another {{cat|Generation II Pokémon}} to the protagonists in the [[Diamond & Pearl series]], the others being {{TP|Dawn|Aipom|Ambipom}} and {{TP|Brock|Sudowoodo}}. Gligar has since evolved into Gliscor, a {{cat|Generation IV Pokémon}}.
** Incidentally, both Aipom and Sudowoodo either evolve from or into a Generation IV Pokémon.
* Gliscor, [[Dawn's Mamoswine]] and [[Dawn's Cyndaquil|Cyndaquil]] are the only Pokémon in the party of Ash and his friends that aren't in the original [[Sinnoh Pokédex]]. [[Jessie]], however, has {{TP|Jessie|Seviper}}, {{TP|Jessie|Wobbuffet}} and {{TP|Jessie|Yanmega}}.
* Gligar's means of capture was similar to [[Ash's Squirtle]], in that it was part of a group of Pokémon of its species causing trouble for a town, joined because it wanted to go with Ash, filled Ash's [[party]] with six members, and was captured shortly before Ash met up with the region's third [[Gym Leader]].
* Gligar appeared on {{rt|215}}, a route where it is possible to catch Gligar via the [[Dual-slot mode|dongle method]] using {{game|Emerald}}.
* Gligar was the fourth Pokémon caught by Ash to debut with no revealed attacks, after {{AP|Krabby|Kingler}}, {{AP|Muk}}, and {{AP|Tauros}}. Its battle debut wasn't until ''[[DP070|The Bells are Singing!]]'', revealing three attacks at once.
* In ''[[DP068|A Triple Fighting Chance!]]'', [[Professor Oak's lecture]] is about Ash's Gligar.
* ''[[DP085|Fighting Fear With Fear!]]'', the episode in which Gligar evolved into Gliscor, first aired in Japan on the Thursday of the same week that the dub of ''[[DP064|Riding the Winds of Change]]'', the episode in which Gligar is captured, first aired in the United States. The same thing happened to [[Dawn's Mamoswine|Dawn’s Piloswine]].
* Gliscor is Ash's only Pokémon and the third of a main character's Pokémon to evolve via an item ({{DL|Evolution-inducing held item|Razor Fang}}). The first one was [[Misty's Politoed]] ({{DL|Evolution-inducing held item|King's Rock}}) and the second was [[Brock's Ludicolo]] ({{evostone|Water Stone}}). Coincidentally, all these Pokémon evolved with items that belonged to someone else, and the Pokémon belong to the anime's original three protagonists. Additionally, each has happened during a different [[series]] of the anime.
[[Image:AshridingGliscor.jpg|220px|Gliscor carrying Ash and {{AP|Pikachu}}|thumb|right]]
* Gliscor now shares a trait with {{AP|Glalie}} as the Pokémon that filled up Ash's sixth party slot in [[Hoenn]] and Sinnoh, respectively, and evolving soon after. Coincidentally, they share their Japanese VA.
* As of [[DP154]], Gliscor became the third Pokémon {{Ash}} has left with someone for training.
* Similar to {{AP|Corphish}}, Gliscor mostly functioned as the comedic relief on Ash's team (e.g. crash landing, getting left behind by [[Brock]], bouncing around on its tail, etc.), although {{AP|Staravia|Staraptor}} shares this role at times.
** Coincidentally, they are both {{type2|Flying}}.
* Gliscor does not know any offensive moves of it's own type. However, it does or did know {{m|Sand Attack}}
* Two of Ash's rivals have had one of Gligar's evolution stages. [[Morrison]] has a {{p|Gligar}}, while Paul has a {{TP|Paul|Gliscor}}.

==Related articles==
*{{Animespeciesevo1|Gligar|Gliscor}}
*[[Paul's Gliscor]]

==External links==
*[http://pokeani.com/poke/satoshi/r_p-satoshi28.html Glion's Profile] on [[Pokeani]] (Japanese)
 
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Talk:Aura

2009-11-22T14:46:05Z

Tomas: /* Water Pulse */

Okay... so, someone who's read Special, is {{special|Yellow}}'s ability Aura-like? And if so, should she, [[Rui]], {{Ash}}, and any others with the aura ability be plopped into one category? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 17:15, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Yellow's powers could just as easily be Psychic abilities. Considering that when it was written, that was the only special powers humans could have in Pokemon, that's probably what they were intended to be viewed as. --[[User:Zeta|Zeta]] 18:11, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
:Hmm... Well, what of Rui in Colosseum? Aura may not have officially debuted until late Gen III, but ehh... And wasn't Yellow in the FRLG arc of Special, too? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 18:26, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
:: I say we just handle it the way Bulbapedia handles everything: Don't add it unless we ''know'' [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 19:11, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
:::Well, we ''do'' know, since in Colo/XD they're all like "I CAN SEE ITS AURA" and "AURA READER" and stuff, plus, Colo/XD's Shadow Pokémon are mentioned here. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 18:46, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
:::: That's fair enough for Rui. Was Yellow's ability ever reffered to as Aura, though? [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 11:22, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
:::::Didn't Sabrina imply that Aura and Psychic abilities are the same thing, though? I mean, she did mention something along the lines of Psychic powers making up all forms of life, and yet only a select few lifeforms are aware that they have it in the first gen and definitely their remakes (which was what Aura was described as in a nutshell.) [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 13:40, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::: Maybe. You can be telekenetic without looking like a refugee from Dragonball, though. [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 10:24, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Ok, I added in the Sabrina reference to the article if that's ok. I also wanted to ask something. Cassius, exactly what did you mean by "You can be a telekinetic without looking like a refugee from dragonball"? I mean, I know the Dragonball. It just didn't make any sense as to what you said, that's all. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 13:03, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

== Qi ==

More likely a reference to Chi than Star Wars. Someone shift the emphasis, please. --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 03:47, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
:If you come up with a good enough case for qi, I'll put it on the page.Otherwise, the star wars is right[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|DCM]]
::Considering the way Dragon Ball Z represented qi (or ki as it's called there) and how it can be used as a visible projectile and literally makes characters glow with an aura, I would say that my case is made. Also, the "aura is with me" phrase might not appear the same way in the Japanese version, while the comparisons with Dragon Ball Z would be near impossible to dismiss as a possible localization.
::The Force does not get stronger as a battle goes on. The Force isn't a life force, since [[wikipedia:Yuuzhan Vong]] are alive and are not connected to the Force.
::Really, "Ash's status as the lone person who can control aura is similar to that of Luke Skywalker during the original trilogy" is pushing it. Hard. --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 02:22, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

:::Dragon Ball Z is perhaps the best way to compare Hadou/Aura (波導) and Ki (気, which in Chinese is pronounced qi and in Japan as ki). If you look at DBZ, most attacks in the series use Ki, a person's fighting spirit/inner strength, whereas certain special attacks use something different, such as the Spirit Bomb which uses spirit/life energy, and seems to be analogous to the use of Hadou/Aura which appears to be how the Pokémon World refers to life energy (you could say that Goku's Spirit Bomb is pretty much a super huge Aura Sphere). But, if you use up your fighting spirit, you become exhausted, but use up all of your life energy, and you're dead, such was the case with Sir Aaron and later his Lucario. So attacks such as Focus Blast (Kiai dame, most likely meaning inner-strength reservoir) and Focus Punch (Kiai Punch, inner-strength punch) use ki, whereas Aura Sphere (hadou dan, wave-guiding mass) uses hadou/aura, life energy. Though the use of Aura sphere seems to use the aura gathered from around the user (hence being referred to wave-''guiding''), which explains why continual use doesn't kill the user. Perhaps even the whole system of PP is based on ki, the fighting energy, which would explain why Focus Blast which uses one's own ki directly outside the body is so powerful but only has a base of 5 PP, but Focus Punch, which keeps the energy in the body (one's fist) has so much more. That both Focus attacks use Ki directly and that they are fighting-type moves gives credence that they are based on the Martial Art's use of kiai and explains their Japanese names. The fact is: Hadou/Aura is not the same as Ki/Qi, but it's not unrelated either. --[[User:Wikifixer|Wikifixer]] 21:02, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
::::It probably is based on energy sources such as Qi and Chakra but the Star Wars influence is clear from the repeated use of "The Aura is with me". I don't think Ash being the last one is pushing it either - the whole premise of the Aura Guardians is basically a fantasy version of the Jedi. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 00:22, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

:::Well, I pretty much broke my unspoken rule about never participating in talk page discussions, but I feel I'm enough of a Star Wars geek to merit that. I'd like to point out several things. First of all, the sentence comparing Ash with Luke Skywalker is misleading and inaccurate. Luke was NOT the only one in the original trilogy who could use the Force. (Darth Vader, anyone? Not to mention Obi-Wan, Palpatine, Yoda, and <s>Leia.</s>) Now if it turned out that Cyrus could control aura and then he revealed himself as Ash's father...then yeah, the comparison between the two would gain much more credibility. Furthermore, to me it seems like aura is more related to ki/chakra in both form and function than to the Force. Also, note the background of the people who created the aura concept. While I'm not saying that they've never heard of Star Wars, given the creators' propensity for references to Eastern culture, it's definitely not a stretch at all to say they based aura off of the Eastern idea of ki, while it is somewhat further of a stretch to assume that they at least initially based it off of the Force. I guess what I'm trying to say is that the Inspiration section of the article seems like it was written on the assumption that the creators/writers got their main inspiration from a movie and then as a secondary source used a traditional concept from their culture of origin. (In fact, I'm pretty sure Lucas himself based aspects of the Force off of ki.) I feel like it should be re-written with heavier emphasis on ki and a small blurb at the end about the Force (because in light of things such as the Aura Guardians and "the aura is with me", it's entirely possible that they did at least have some influence from SW). Also, is "the aura is with me" a dub phrase, or is it directly translated from the original? If it's not the original phrasing, I suggest someone do some digging and find the original Japanese, because it's entirely possible that the dub writers decided to consciously use a phrase similar to the classic SW phrase, as it would definitely not be the first time they've work in popular culture references. I'm sorry this was so long; free cookies for whoever read this far. If nobody objects, I'll go ahead and change it. [[User:Lucentas|Lucentas]] 22:02, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

::::Has anyone ever considered that maybe, just maybe, Lucas didn't invent the force himself, and that there might be the possibility that Lucas and Pokemon based their idea of a similar concept coincidentally off of a shared idea? For reference, Lucas admitted to basing his concept of "the Force" off of this short film: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/21-87 . With that in mind, I really don't see how hard it is for someone to dig into 21-87's history and figure out where the original concept here was based off of, especially considering that "the force" is referred to as God or a god in the film. [[User:Crenel|Crenel]] 06:25, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

==Water Pulse==
Water Pulse doesn't use Aura.[[User:Shadow1337|Shadow1337]] 13:46, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
:Yeah, thats true. Why then, when Ash is battling Maylene, does Buizel learn water pulse by copying lucario? On top of that, they look the same. Have nintendo gane mad? In the games water pulse and aura sphere look soooooo different. It's madness. I'll put a copy of this on the episode discussion page. Please reply :) [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK]] 13:31, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
I personally think that the energy used for water pulse is diferent than the energy of aura sphere, but maybe the way the energy is being used is similair and that's why the moves look similair.--'''[[wp:Wikipedia|Wiki]]'''[[User:Tomas|''Tomas'']] 14:46, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

== Mystery Dungeon ==
Actually, the aura at the beginning of PMD2 is merely the "fave color" you have on your ds. for example, start the game over and over, each time changing the test but getting the same nature and pokemon. trust me, the aura will be the same as your fave color.- ''unsigned comment from [[User:sk8torchic|sk8torchic]] ([[User talk:sk8torchic|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/sk8torchic|contribs]]){{ #if: | {{{2}}} |}}''
:No it's not. On my Ds it was Light Blue but then I got Orange, Lime, Red, Light BLue, Orange, And Orange. My brother got his color though. [[User:AuraGuardian0226|AuraGuardian0226]] 16:02, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
:: I got my favorite color (bright pink), but that is probably because of the quiz, although it is strange you kept the same color changing the answers.--[[User:Starlight the ampharos|Starlight_the_ampharos]] 00:36, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

List of Pokémon the Series: Diamond and Pearl episodes

2009-11-07T16:11:08Z

Tomas: /* Diamond & Pearl: Galactic Battles */

<noinclude>This is a list of episodes of the {{series|Diamond & Pearl}}, first aired starting on September 28, 2006 in Japan and starting on April 20, 2007 in the United States. These episodes follow [[Ash Ketchum]] in his Pokémon journey across the [[Sinnoh]] region. He is joined once more by his friend [[Brock]], as well as another rookie {{pkmn|Coordinator}}, {{an|Dawn}}.

In the dub, this is currently comprised of three seasons that are divided roughly into 52-episode blocks and designated below.</noinclude>
==Sinnoh League==
===Diamond and Pearl===
{{Episodelistheader|Sinnoh}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP001|Following a Maiden's Voyage!|旅立ち！フタバタウンからマサゴタウンへ！！|Setting Off! From {{tt|Futaba|Twinleaf}} Town to {{tt|Masago|Sandgem}} Town!!|April 20, 2007|September 28, 2006}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP002|Two Degrees of Separation!|ピカチュウをさがせ！202番道路！|Find Pikachu! Route 202!|April 20, 2007|September 28, 2006}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP003|When Pokémon Worlds Collide!|ライバルバトル！三対三！！|Rival Battle! Three vs Three!|April 20, 2007|September 28, 2006}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP004|Dawn of a New Era!|ポッチャマ対スボミー！ヒカリ初バトル！！|{{tt|Pochama|Piplup}} vs {{tt|Subomie|Budew}}! {{tt|Hikari|Dawn}}'s First Battle!!|June 7, 2007|October 5, 2006}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP005|Gettin' Twiggy With It!|ナエトル！ゲットだぜ！！|{{tt|Naetle|Turtwig}}! Get It!!|June 11, 2007|October 19, 2006}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP006|Different Strokes for Different Blokes|迷いの森！シンジふたたび！！|Bewilder Forest! {{tt|Shinji|Paul}} Returns!!|June 12, 2007|October 26, 2006}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP007|Like It or Lup It!|ポッチャマがんばる！！|{{tt|Pochama|Piplup}} Does its Best!!|June 13, 2007|November 2, 2006}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP008|Gymbaliar!|なぞのジムのグレッグル！|{{tt|Gureggru|Croagunk}} of the Mysterious Gym!|June 14, 2007|November 9, 2006}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP009|Setting the World on its Buneary!|ミミロルとあそぼう！？|Let's Play with {{tt|Mimirol|Buneary}}!?|June 18, 2007|November 16, 2006}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP010|Not on MY Watch Ya Don't!|ポケッチ入手困難！？|Can't Get the Pokétch!?|June 19, 2007|November 30, 2006}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP011|Mounting a Coordinator Assault!|ヒカリ！コンテストデビュー！！|{{tt|Hikari|Dawn}}! Contest Debut!!|June 20, 2007|December 7, 2006}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP012|Arrival of a Rival!|コンテストバトル！ライバル対決！！|Contest Battle! Rival Confrontation!!|June 21, 2007|December 14, 2006}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP013|A Staravia Is Born!|ムックルがんばる！|{{tt|Mukkuru|Starly}} Does its Best!|June 25, 2007|December 21, 2006}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP014|Leave It To Brocko!|タケシにおまかせ！！|Leave It to {{tt|Takeshi|Brock}}!!|June 26, 2007|December 21, 2006}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP015|Shapes of Things to Come!|クロガネジム！ヒョウタVSシンジ！！|{{tt|Kurogane|Oreburgh}} Gym! {{tt|Hyouta|Roark}} VS {{tt|Shinji|Paul}}!!|June 27, 2007|January 11, 2007}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP016|A Gruff Act to Follow!|ズガイドスVSピカチュウ！！|{{tt|Zugaidos|Cranidos}} VS Pikachu!!|June 28, 2007|January 18, 2007}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP017|Wild in the Streets!|古代ポケモン大進撃！！|Big Charge of Ancient Pokémon!!|July 2, 2007|January 25, 2007}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP018|O'er the Rampardos We Watched!|クロガネジムふたたび！決戦ラムパルド！！|Return to {{tt|Kurogane|Oreburgh}} Gym! Decisive Match with {{tt|Rampard|Rampardos}}!!|July 3, 2007|February 1, 2007}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP019|Twice Smitten, Once Shy!|パチリスゲットで・・・・・・大丈夫！？|I'll Get Pachirisu... No Need to Worry!?|July 5, 2007|February 8, 2007}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP020|Mutiny in the Bounty!|ポケモンハンターJ！|Pokémon Hunter J!|July 9, 2007|February 22, 2007}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP021|Ya See We Want an Evolution!|最強のコイキングと最も美しいヒンバス！|The Strongest {{tt|Koiking|Magikarp}} and the Most Beautiful {{tt|Hinbass|Feebas}}!|July 10, 2007|March 1, 2007}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP022|Borrowing on Bad Faith!|パチリスＶＳエイパム！コンテストバトル！！|Pachirisu VS {{tt|Eipam|Aipom}}! Contest Battle!!|July 11, 2007|March 8, 2007}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP023|Faced With Steelix Determination!|爆走ハガネール！ビッパの村を守れ！|Roaring {{tt|Haganeil|Steelix}}! Protect the {{tt|Bipper|Bidoof}} Village!!|July 12, 2007|March 15, 2007}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP024|Cooking up a Sweet Story!|対決！サトシ対ピカチュウ！？|Showdown! {{tt|Satoshi|Ash}} VS Pikachu?!|July 16, 2007|March 29, 2007}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP025|Oh Do You Know the Poffin Plan!|怪傑ロズレイドと花伝説！|The Gifted Roserade and the Flower Legend!|September 1, 2007|March 29, 2007}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP026|Getting the Pre-Contest Titters!|ポケモンコンテスト！ソノオ大会！！|Pokémon Contest! {{tt|Sonoo|Floaroma}} Tournament!!|September 1, 2007|April 5, 2007}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP027|Settling a Not-So-Old Score!|決戦！ポッチャマＶＳポッタイシ！！|Deciding Match! {{tt|Pochama|Piplup}} VS {{tt|Pottaishi|Prinplup}}!!|September 8, 2007|April 5, 2007}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP028|Drifloon on the Wind!|フワンテと北風の使い！|{{tt|Fuwante|Drifloon}} and the North Wind Messenger!|September 15, 2007|April 12, 2007}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP029|The Champ Twins!|サトシとヒカリ！タッグバトルで大丈夫！？|{{tt|Satoshi|Ash}} and {{tt|Hikari|Dawn}}! Saved by Tag Battle!?|September 22, 2007|April 12, 2007}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP030|Some Enchanted Sweetening!|ハクタイの森！ミノムッチ進化作戦！！|{{tt|Hakutai|Eterna}} Forest! The {{tt|Minomutchi|Burmy}} Evolution Plan!!|September 29, 2007|April 19, 2007}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP031|The Grass-Type is Always Greener!|ナエトル対ナエトル！スピード対決！！|{{tt|Naetle|Turtwig}} VS {{tt|Naetle|Turtwig}}! Speed Showdown!!|October 6, 2007|April 26, 2007}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP032|An Angry Combeenation!|琥珀の城のビークイン！|{{tt|Beequeen|Vespiquen}} of the Amber Castle!|October 13, 2007|May 3, 2007}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP033|All Dressed up with Somewhere to Go!|スキです！ポケモンなりきり大会！！|It's Love! Pokémon Transformation Tournament!!|October 20, 2007|May 10, 2007}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP034|Buizel Your Way Out of This!|ブイゼル！最強への道！！|{{tt|Buoysel|Buizel}}! Road to the Strongest!!|October 27, 2007|May 17, 2007}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP035|An Elite Meet and Greet!|四天王ゴヨウとドータクン！|{{tt|Goyō|Lucian}} of the {{tt|Four Heavenly Kings|Elite Four}} and {{tt|Dotakun|Bronzong}}!|November 3, 2007|May 24, 2007}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP036|A Secret Sphere of Influence!|シンオウ時空伝説！|{{tt|Shin'ō|Sinnoh}} Space-Time Legend!|November 10, 2007|May 31, 2007}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP037|The Grass Menagerie!|ハクタイジム！VSナタネ！！|{{tt|Hakutai|Eterna}} Gym! VS {{tt|Natane|Gardenia}}!!|November 17, 2007|June 7, 2007}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP038|One Big Happiny Family!|爆誕！サイクリングロード！！|Explosive Birth! Cycling Road!!|November 24, 2007|June 21, 2007}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP039|Steamboat Willies!|ピカチュウのおるすばん！|Pikachu's Caretaking!|December 1, 2007|July 5, 2007}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP040|Top-Down Training!|チャンピオン・シロナ登場！！|Enter Champion {{tt|Shirona|Cynthia}}!!|December 8, 2007|July 19, 2007}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP041|A Stand-Up Sit-Down!|ヒカリとノゾミとダブルパフォーマンス！！|{{tt|Hikari|Dawn}}, {{tt|Nozomi|Zoey}} and the Double Performance!!|December 15, 2007|July 26, 2007}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP042|The Electrike Company!|ラクライ訓練センター！|{{tt|Rakurai|Electrike}} Practice Center!|December 22, 2007|August 9, 2007}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP043|Malice in Wonderland!|ムウマージ！悪夢からの脱出！！|{{tt|Mumage|Mismagius}}! Escape from a Nightmare!!|December 29, 2007|August 16, 2007}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP044|Mass Hip-Po-Sis!|迷子のヒポポタスを助けろ！|Save the Stray {{tt|Hipopotas|Hippopotas}}!|January 5, 2008|August 23, 2007}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP045|Ill-Will Hunting!|ハンターＪ再び！タテトプスを守れ！！|Hunter J, Again! Protect {{tt|Tatetops|Shieldon}}!! |January 12, 2008|August 30, 2007}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP046|A Maze-ing Race!|迷路でシャッフル！みんなでハッスル！！|Shuffle in the Maze! Everyone Hustle!!|January 19, 2008|September 13, 2007}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP047|Sandshrew's Locker!|ミルとケーシィと水の底！|{{tt|Miru|Mira}}, {{tt|Casey|Abra}}, and the Water's Bottom!|January 26, 2008|September 27, 2007}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP048|None|サトシとヒカリ！新たなる冒険に向かって！！|{{tt|Satoshi|Ash}} and {{tt|Hikari|Dawn}}! Facing a New Adventure!!|Unaired|September 27, 2007}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP049|Dawn's Early Night|ポケモンコンテスト！ヨスガ大会！！|Pokémon Contest! {{tt|Yosuga|Hearthome}} Tournament!!|January 26, 2008|October 4, 2007}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP050|Tag! We're It!|全員参加！タッグバトル！！|All Members Participate! Tag Battle!!|February 1, 2008|October 4, 2007}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP051|Glory Blaze!|ヒコザルVSザングース！運命のバトル！！|{{tt|Hikozaru|Chimchar}} VS Zangoose! Destined Battle!!|February 1, 2008|October 18, 2007}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP052|Smells Like Team Spirit!|タッグバトル！ファイナル！！|Tag Battle! Final!!|February 1, 2008|October 25, 2007}}
{{Episodelistfooter|Sinnoh|10}}

===Diamond & Pearl: Battle Dimension===
{{Episodelistheader|Sinnoh}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP053|Tears For Fears!|ヒコザルの涙！|{{tt|Hikozaru|Chimchar}}'s Tears!|April 12, 2008|November 8, 2007}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP054|Once There Were Greenfields|ナタネとサボネア！さよならは誰のため！？|{{tt|Natane|Gardenia}} and {{tt|Sabonea|Cacnea}}! Farewell to whom!?|April 19, 2008|November 15, 2007}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP055|Throwing the Track Switch|エイパムとブイゼル！それぞれの道！！|{{tt|Eipam|Aipom}} and {{tt|Buoysel|Buizel}}! Respective Roads!!|April 26, 2008|November 22, 2007}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP056|The Keystone Pops!|ミカルゲの要石！|{{tt|Mikaruge|Spiritomb}}'s Keystone!|May 10, 2008|November 29, 2007}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP057|Bibarel Gnaws Best!|ビーダルは知っていた！|{{tt|Beadull|Bibarel}} Knew!|May 17, 2008|November 29, 2007}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP058|Nosing 'Round the Mountain!|ダイノーズ！熱き魂！！|{{tt|Dainose|Nosepass}}! Burning Spirit!!|May 24, 2008|December 6, 2007}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP059|Luxray Vision!|レントラーの瞳！|{{tt|Rentorar|Luxray}}'s Eye!|May 31, 2008|December 13, 2007}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP060|Journey to the Unown!|ズイの遺跡のアンノーン！|The {{tt|Unknown|Unown}} of the {{tt|Zui|Solaceon}} Ruins!|June 7, 2008|December 20, 2007}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP061|Team Shocker!|ポケモンコンテスト！ズイ大会！！|Pokémon Contest! {{tt|Zui|Solaceon}} Tournament!!|June 14, 2008|December 20, 2007}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP062|Tanks for the Memories!|メイドカフェのミルタンク!|Miltank of the Maid Café!|June 21, 2008|January 10, 2008}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP063|Hot Springing a Leak!|ウリムートリオと湯けむりバトル！！|The {{tt|Urimoo|Swinub}} Trio and the Steaming Hot Water Battle!!|June 28, 2008|January 17, 2008}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP064|Riding the Winds of Change!|グライオンとグライガー！風の迷路をぬけて！|{{tt|Glion|Gliscor}} and Gligar! Escaping the Maze of Wind!|July 5, 2008|January 24, 2008}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP065|Sleight of Sand!|パチリスはカバルドンの口の中！？|Pachirisu is in {{tt|Kabarudon|Hippowdon}}'s Mouth!?|July 12, 2008|January 31, 2008}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP066|Lost Leader Strategy!|ルカリオ！怒りのはどうだん！！|Lucario! {{tt|Wave Bomb|Aura Sphere}} of Anger!!|July 19, 2008|February 7, 2008}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP067|Crossing the Battle Line!|ヒカリ！初めてのジムバトル！！|{{tt|Hikari|Dawn}}! The First Gym Battle!!|July 26, 2008|February 14, 2008}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP068|A Triple Fighting Chance!|トバリジム！ルカリオVSブイゼル！！|{{tt|Tobari|Veilstone}} Gym! Lucario VS {{tt|Buoysel|Buizel}}!!|August 2, 2008|February 28, 2008}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP069|Enter Galactic!|ステキファッション！その名はギンガ団！！|Lovely Fashion! Their Name is {{tt|Ginga-dan|Team Galactic}}!!|August 9, 2008|March 6, 2008}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP070|The Bells Are Singing!|シャンとしてリーシャン！|Pull Yourself Together, {{tt|Lisyan|Chingling}}!|August 16, 2008|March 13, 2008}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP071|Pokémon Ranger and the Kidnapped Riolu! (Part 1)|ポケモンレンジャー！波導のリオル！！（前編）|Pokémon Ranger! Wave-Guiding Riolu!! (Part 1)|November 1, 2008|March 20, 2008}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP072|Pokémon Ranger and the Kidnapped Riolu! (Part 2)|ポケモンレンジャー！波導のリオル！！（後編）|Pokémon Ranger! Wave-Guiding Riolu!! (Part 2)|November 8, 2008|March 20, 2008}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP073|Crossing Paths|さよならドクケイル！|Goodbye, {{tt|Dokucale|Dustox}}!|August 23, 2008|April 3, 2008}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP074|Pika and Goliath!|ピカチュウ！ライチュウ！進化への道！！|Pikachu! Raichu! The Path to Evolution!!|August 30, 2008|April 3, 2008}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP075|Our Cup Runneth Over!|コンテストマスター・ミクリ登場！！|Enter Contest Master {{tt|Mikuri|Wallace}}!!|September 6, 2008|April 17, 2008}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP076|A Full Course Tag Battle!|レストラン七つ星！タッグバトルでフルコース！！|Seven Stars Restaurant! Tag Battle for a Full Course!!|September 13, 2008|April 24, 2008}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP077|Staging A Heroes' Welcome!|みんなライバル！ミクリカップ！！ |Everyone's a Rival! {{tt|Mikuri|Wallace}} Cup!!|September 20, 2008|May 8, 2008}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP078|Pruning a Passel of Pals!!|激闘！それぞれのバトル！！|Fierce Fighting! Respective Battles!!|September 27, 2008|May 8, 2008}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP079|Strategy With a Smile!|決戦！ヒカリVSハルカ！！|Decisive Match! {{tt|Hikari|Dawn}} VS {{tt|Haruka|May}}!!|October 11, 2008|May 15, 2008}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP080|The Thief That Keeps on Thieving! |ヤンヤンマ！ゲット作戦！！|The {{tt|Yanyanma|Yanma}} Capture Operation!| October 18, 2008|May 22, 2008}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP081|Chim - Charred!|灼熱のヒコザル！|The Scorching {{tt|Hikozaru|Chimchar}}!| October 25, 2008|May 29, 2008}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP082|Cream of the Croagunk Crop!|ノモセ大湿原のグレッグル祭り！？|The {{tt|Gureggru|Croagunk}} Festival of the {{tt|Nomose|Pastoria}} Great Marsh!?| November 15, 2008|June 5, 2008}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP083|A Crasher Course in Power!|ノモセジム！VSマキシマム仮面！！|{{tt|Nomose|Pastoria}} Gym! Vs. {{tt|Maximum Mask|Crasher Wake}}!!|November 22, 2008|June 19, 2008}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP084|Hungry For the Good Life!|ウラヤマさんちの大食いウリムー！|The Gluttonous {{tt|Urimoo|Swinub}} at {{tt|Mr. Urayama's|Mr. Backlot's}}!|December 6, 2008|July 3, 2008}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP085|Fighting Fear With Fear!!|グライガー！友情の翼！|{{tt|Gliger|Gligar}}! Wings of Friendship!|December 13, 2008|July 3, 2008}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP086|Arriving in Style!|ヨスガコレクション！ポケモンスタイリストへの道！|{{tt|Yosuga|Hearthome}} Collection! The Road to Becoming a Pokémon Stylist!!|December 20, 2008|July 10, 2008}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP087|The Psyduck Stops Here!|コダックの通せんぼ！|The {{tt|Koduck|Psyduck}} Roadblock!|December 27, 2008|July 24, 2008}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP088|Camping It Up!|ポケモンサマースクール開講！！|Pokémon Summer School Course!!|January 3, 2009|August 7, 2008}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP089|Up Close and Personable!|研究発表「湖の伝説」！|Research Presentation: "Legend of the Lake"!|January 10, 2009|August 14, 2008}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP090|Ghoul Daze!|放課後はゴーストタイム|It's Ghost Time After School|January 17, 2009|August 21, 2008}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP091|One Team, Two Team Red Team, Blue Team!|最後の大勝負！ポケモントライアスロン！！|The Final Competition! Pokémon Triathalon!!|January 24, 2009|August 28, 2008}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP092|A Lean Mean Team Rocket Machine!|原点回帰だロケット団！？|Back to Basics, {{tt|Rocket-dan|Team Rocket}}!?|January 31, 2009|September 4, 2008}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP093|Playing the Leveling Field!|踊るジムリーダー！メリッサ登場！！|Dancing Gym Leader! Enter {{tt|Melissa|Fantina}}!!|February 7, 2009|September 11, 2008}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP094|Doc Brock!|パチリスお熱です！2人でお留守番！？|Pachirisu Has a Fever! Two People Taking Care!?|February 14, 2009|September 25, 2008}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP095|Battling the Generation Gap!|ポケモンコンテスト！カンナギ大会！！|Pokémon Contest! {{tt|Kannagi|Celestic}} Tournament!!|February 21, 2009|September 25, 2008}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP096|Losing Its Lustrous|ギンガ団襲撃！！　-前編-|{{tt|Ginga-dan|Team Galactic}} Attacks!! -Part 1-|February 28, 2009|October 2, 2008}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP097|Double Team Turnover!|ギンガ団襲撃！！　-後編-|{{tt|Ginga-dan|Team Galactic}} Attacks!! -Part 2-|March 7, 2009|October 2, 2008}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP098|If the Scarf Fits, Wear It!|浮かぶ未確認怪物！？|The Floating Unidentified Mysterious Animal!?|March 21, 2009|October 16, 2008}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP099|A Trainer and Child Reunion!|四天王リョウ！出会いと別れの森！|Elite Four {{tt|Ryō|Aaron}}! Forest of Meeting and Separation!|March 28, 2009|October 23, 2008}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP100|Aiding the Enemy!|ナエトル、ハヤシガメ…そしてドダイトス！|{{tt|Naetle|Turtwig}}, {{tt|Hayashigame|Grotle}}...and {{tt|Dodaitose!|Torterra}}!|April 4, 2009|October 30, 2008}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP101|Barry's Busting Out All Over!|ライバルトレーナー・ジュン登場！！|Enter Rival Trainer {{tt|Jun|Barry}}!!|April 11, 2009| November 6, 2008}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP102|Shield with a Twist!|ヨスガジム戦！VSメリッサ！！|{{tt|Yosuga|Hearthome}} Gym Match! VS {{tt|Melissa|Fantina}}!!|April 18, 2009| November 13, 2008}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP103|Jumping Rocket Ship!|混戦混乱ミオシティ！|Chaotic Melee in {{tt|Mio|Canalave}} City!|April 25, 2009| November 20, 2008}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP104|Sleepless in Pre-Battle!|クレセリアVSダークライ！|{{tt|Crecelia|Cresselia}} VS Darkrai!|May 2, 2009|December 4, 2008}}
{{Episodelistfooter|Sinnoh|11}}

===Diamond & Pearl: Galactic Battles===
{{Episodelistheader|Sinnoh}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP105|Get Your Rotom Running!|羊羹とロトム！|{{tt|Yōkan|Old Gateau}} and Rotom|May 9, 2009|December 4, 2008}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP106|A Breed Stampede!|ポケモンと仲良くなる方法！？|A Way to Befriend Pokémon!?|May 16, 2009|December 11, 2008}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP107|Ancient Family Matters!|ラムパルドVSトリデプス！！|{{tt|Rampard|Rampardos}} VS {{tt|Trideps|Bastiodon}}|May 23, 2009|December 18, 2008}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP108|Dealing with Defensive Types!|ミオジム戦！はがねのバトル！！|{{tt|Mio|Canalave}} Gym Match! Steel Battle!!|May 30, 2009|December 25, 2008}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP109|Leading a Stray!|迷子のホエルコ！|The Stray {{tt|Hoeruko|Wailmer}}!|June 6, 2009|January 8, 2009}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP110|Steeling Peace of Mind!|ゲンとルカリオ！|{{tt|Gen|Riley}} and Lucario!|June 13, 2009|January 15, 2009}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP111|Saving the World from Ruins!|鋼鉄島の遺跡！|The Ruins of {{tt|Steel Island|Iron Island}}!|June 20, 2009|January 22, 2009}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP112|Cheers on Castaways Isle!|ピカチュウ・ポッチャマ漂流記！|Pikachu-{{tt|Pochama|Piplup}} Drifting Chronicle!|June 27, 2009|January 29, 2009}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP113|Hold the Phione!|いたずらフィオネ！|The Mischievous Phione!|July 4, 2009|February 5, 2009}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP114|Another One Gabites the Dust!|ポケモンコンテスト！アケビ大会！！|Pokémon Contest! {{tt|Akebi|Chocovine}} Tournament!!|July 11, 2009|February 12, 2009}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP115|Stealing the Conversation!|ワイルドジュンサーと相棒ペラップ！|Wild {{tt|Junsar|Officer Jenny}} and Accomplice {{tt|Perap|Chatot}}!|July 18, 2009|February 19, 2009}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP116|The Drifting Snorunt!|吹雪の中のユキメノコ|{{tt|Yukimenoko|Froslass}} in a Snowstorm!|July 25, 2009|February 26, 2009}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP117|Noodles! Roamin' Off!|ロケット団解散！？|{{tt|Rocket-dan|Team Rocket}} Breakup!?|August 1, 2009|March 5, 2009}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP118|Pursuing a Lofty Goal!|ポケリンガ！天空大決戦！！|PokéRinger! Big Decisive Sky Battle!!|August 8, 2009|March 12, 2009}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP119|Trials and Adulations!|激突！マンムーVSボスゴドラ！！|Clash! {{tt|Mammoo|Mamoswine}} VS {{tt|Bossgodora|Aggron}}!!|August 15, 2009|March 26, 2009}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP120|None|ふしぎないきものポケットモンスター！|Mysterious Creatures: {{tt|Pocket Monsters|Pokémon}}|Unaired|March 26, 2009}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP121|The Lonely Snover|さびしがりやのユキカブリ！|The Lonely {{tt|Yukikaburi|Snover}}!|August 22, 2009|April 2, 2009}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP122|Stopped in the Name of Love!|進化！その時ポッチャマは！？|Evolution! This Time for {{tt|Pochama|Piplup}}!?|August 29, 2009|April 2, 2009}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP123|Old Rivals, New Tricks|ポケモンコンテスト！タツナミ大会！！|Pokémon Contest! {{tt|Tatsunami|Sandalstraw}} Tournament!!|September 5, 2009|April 16, 2009}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP124|To Thine Own Pokémon Be True!
|ポケモンピンポン大会！エテボースがんばる！！|Pokémon Ping Pong Tournament! {{tt|Eteboth|Ambipom}} Does Her Best!!|September 12, 2009|April 23, 2009}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP125|Battling a Cute Drama!|チェリンボ！けなげなバトル！？|{{tt|Cherinbo|Cherubi}}! A Brave Battle!?|September 26, 2009|April 30, 2009}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP126|Classroom Training!|トレーナーズスクールのスズナ先生！|Miss {{tt|Suzuna|Candice}} of the Trainers' School!|October 3, 2009|May 7, 2009}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP127|Sliding Into Seventh!|キッサキジム！氷のバトル！！|{{tt|Kissaki|Snowpoint}} Gym! Ice Battle!|October 10, 2009|May 14, 2009}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP128|A Pyramiding Rage!|バトルピラミッド！シンジVSジンダイ！！|Battle Pyramid! {{tt|Shinji|Paul}} VS {{tt|Jindai|Brandon}}!!|October 17, 2009|May 21, 2009}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP129|Pillars of Friendship!|復活のレジギガス！J再び！！|Resurrected Regigigas! J Returns!!|October 24, 2009|May 28, 2009}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP130|Frozen on Their Tracks!|デンリュウ列車！ハンサム登場！！|{{tt|Denryu|Ampharos}} Train! Enter {{tt|Handsome|Looker}}!!|October 31, 2009|June 4, 2009}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP131|Pedal to the Mettle!|フルバトル！シンジVSサトシ！！-前編-|Full Battle! {{tt|Shinji|Paul}} VS {{tt|Satoshi|Ash}}!! -Part 1-|November 7, 2009|June 11, 2009}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP132|Evolving Strategies!|フルバトル！シンジVSサトシ！！-後編-|Full Battle! {{tt|Shinji|Paul}} VS {{tt|Satoshi|Ash}}!! -Part 2-|November 14, 2009|June 18, 2009}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP133|Uncrushing Defeat!|ユクシーの影！|{{tt|Yuxie|Uxie}}'s Shadow!|November 21, 2009|June 25, 2009}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP134|Promoting Healthy Tangrowth!|森の王者！　モジャンボ！！|King of the Forest! {{tt|Mojumbo|Tangrowth}}!!|December 5, 2009|July 2, 2009}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP135|None|全員参戦！　ポケモンハッスル！！|Everybody Participate! Pokémon Hustle!!|Unannounced|July 9, 2009}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP136|None|テンガン山の遺跡！ギンガ団の陰謀！！|{{tt|Mt. Tengan|Mt. Coronet}} Ruins! {{tt|Ginga-dan|Team Galactic}} Conspiracy!!|Unannounced|July 23, 2009}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP137|None|マリル・ポッチャマ・エレキッド！！|{{tt|Maril|Marill}}, {{tt|Pochama|Piplup}} & Elekid!!|Unannounced|August 6, 2009}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP138|None|ヒカリVSママ！親子対決！！|{{tt|Hikari|Dawn}} VS Mama! Parent-Child Showdown!!|Unannounced|August 13, 2009}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP139|None|オーキド博士を救出せよ！ニョロトノVSグレッグル！！|Rescue {{tt|Dr. Okido|Professor Oak}}! {{tt|Nyorotono|Politoed}} VS {{tt|Guregguru|Croagunk}}!!|Unannounced|August 20, 2009}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP140|None|ネイティ、ネイティオ。。。不思議な森！|{{tt|Naty|Natu}}, {{tt|Natio|Xatu}}... Mysterious Forest!|Unannounced|August 27, 2009}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP141|None|タワータイクーン！その男、クロツグ！！|Tower Tycoon! That Man, {{tt|Kurotsugu|Palmer}}!!|Unannounced|September 3, 2009}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP142|None|史上最悪のトゲピー！|The Worst {{tt|Togepy|Togepi}} Ever!|Unannounced|September 10, 2009}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP143|None|ジョウトフェスタ！チコリータとワニノコ登場！！|{{tt|Jōto|Johto}} Festa! {{tt|Chicorita|Chikorita}} and {{tt|Waninoko|Totodile}} Appear!!|Unannounced|September 17, 2009}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP144|None|ダンジョン攻略！？谷間の発電所！|Dungeon Capture!? The {{tt|Valley Powerplant|Valley Windworks}}!|Unannounced|September 17, 2009}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP145|None|フカマル…ゲットだぜ！|{{tt|Fukamaru|Gible}}...Got It!|Unannounced|October 1, 2009}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP146|None|ポケモンコンテスト！スイレン大会！！|Pokémon Contest! Suiren Tournament!!|Unannounced|October 1, 2009}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP147|None|サトシとヒカリ！タッグバトル！！|{{tt|Satoshi|Ash}} and {{tt|Hikari|Dawn}}! Tag Battle!!|Unannounced|October 15, 2009}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP148|None|ムウマとヤミカラスとやみのいし！|{{tt|Muma|Misdreavus}}, {{tt|Yamikarasu|Murkrow}} and the {{tt|Dark Stone|Dusk Stone}}!|Unannounced|October 22, 2009}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP149|None|ピカチュウポッチャマくっつかないで！！|Pikachu, {{tt|Pochama|Piplup}}, Keep Apart!!|Unannounced|October 29, 2009}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP150|None|赤い鎖！ギンガ団始動！！|The Red Chain! Activated by {{tt|the Ginga-Dan|Team Galactic}}!!|Unannounced|November 5, 2009}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP151|None|アグノム・ユクシー・エムリット！|{{tt|Agnome|Azelf}}, {{tt|Yuxie|Uxie}}, {{tt|Emrit|Mesprit}}!|Unannounced|November 12, 2009}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP152|None|ディアルガとパルキア! 最後の戦い！！|Dialga and Palkia! The Final Battle|Unannounced|November 12, 2009}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP153|None|危険がいっぱい！コジロウの宝箱！！|Full of Danger! {{tt|Kojirō|James}}'s Treasure Chest!!|Unannounced|November 26, 2009}}
{{Episodelistbody|DP154|None|エアバトルマスター登場！グライオンVSハッサム！！|The Air Battle Master Enters! {{tt|Glion|Gliscor}} vs. {{tt|Hassam|Scizor}}!!|Unannounced|December 3, 2009}}

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Talk:Razor Leaf (move)

2009-10-24T08:59:33Z

Tomas: /* physical */ new section

Talk:Paul

2009-10-15T17:59:13Z

Tomas: /* unsatisfactory */

Talk:Paul

2009-10-15T10:45:16Z

Tomas: /* unsatisfactory */ new section

Talk:Ash Ketchum/Archive 4

2009-10-08T11:07:12Z

Tomas: /* ash's dad */

<big><big><big>ASH'S AGE IS INDETERMINATE! AS OF EPISODE 1, HE IS 10 AS FAR AS IT'S KNOWN! PLEASE DO NOT POST ABOUT IT!</big></big></big>
== Previous discussions ==
* [[Talk:Ash Ketchum/Archive 1|Archive 1]]
* [[Talk:Ash Ketchum/Archive 2|Archive 2]]
* [[Talk:Ash Ketchum/Archive 3|Archive 3]]

== Trivia ==

In the trivia it says about Ash never catching a Pokemon when he has 6 in his party and then gives many exceptions, hardly a worthy piece of trivia, I would suggest removing it but I am afraid of back-lash from other users, so can anyone give their consensus. [[User:Sailor Earth|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Sailor Earth| of]][[User talk:Sailor Earth| Earth]] 20:27, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
:Krabby was at the beginning, there are 30 of those Tauros and Beedrill went straight to Casey. I think the fact is worth mentioning but I'm not sure how to reword it. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 23:11, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
::If thirty Tauros at once counts as many exceptions... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:59, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

==Ash Sprite==
I made a sprite of Ash: [[Image:Ash_Sprite.png]] I used Lucas (since they are very similar) and changed some features. How is it?--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 20:50, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

I say very good!--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 21:00, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! Kuki, you should talk to my younger brother, [[User:Diamaster|Diamaster]]. Does anyone have anything else for me to make?--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 21:03, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

How about we go through it together? Oh, how about giving [[Mimey]] a broom in its sprite on [[Delia]]'s page?--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 21:05, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

:I'll get to it. Feel free to e-mail me anytime you come with an idea. You are like my manager, or somewhat my boss. This works well.--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 21:07, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Should we start from the beginning?--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 21:14, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

I've just finished [[Mimey|Mimey's]] sprite. I'm ready for the list!--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 21:24, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

: It's good but is there any point of putting that in the Article? --[[User:Force Fire|Force Fire]] 09:37, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
:: Actually, last time we did this to Tyson's Meowth, the Cat got the Boot (Geddit? Geddit? Oh forget it...) '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''10:11 6 Jun 2008'''''
:::I have to agree... the sprites are neat (sort of; I've definitely seen better), but they don't really belong in the articles. Just because a Pokémon dresses differently doesn't mean it's not the same Pokémon. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 05:52, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::::All he was trying to do was give the Pokémon some individuality. I'm not sure I'm for the modified sprites of humans but we should let the Pokémon stay. Especially if they are tweaked just so slightly that it barely makes a difference. Like Ash's Sceptile. You can't say that looked bad. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 06:08, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::I understand that. And I guess the less obtrusive ones are OK (this is all just my opinion, anyway). But don't put "sprite by Taviource" on the pages; that's just advertising, which shouldn't be in the main namespace. It's fine that you put it on the images themselves; that way, people who are interested in the sprites can follow them to you, and people who aren't don't think you're a {{tt|whore|apologies if you find the word offensive}}. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 06:33, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::::::Yeah, that was a little out-of-bounds on his part. Still I think the Pokémon ones are cool.--[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 06:40, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::::I can't say that Sceptile looks bad but I can say that it looks incorrect since it had a different twig to Treecko/Grovyle. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 11:07, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
I'm sorry, but i just dont think that traviource's edits ar good enough.I personally think that they should be put back to normal or if it's allowed, http://pokesho.com/icon.html has really nice personalized sprites.I know there's a copyright rule but if you translate the page it says: Pokemon Icon Collection Freedom to use. Anywway, i dont know, but that was my thought.--Riot464

We want them to b somewhat, actuall mostly based off the games.--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 19:58, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Sweet! Pokemonboy 08:39, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

It looks like you used Red as a scratch, not Lucas. -Metagross72

Remarkable!--adyniz 12:58, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

Yeah it looks like Ash if he were in Pokemon Emerald -Usyflad10

== Sun Stone ==
does anyone know what happened to his sun stone from the bug catching contest? [[User:Mooites|Mooites]] 23:55, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

He used it on a Sunkern in [[EP187]]--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 23:58, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
:Not much of a waste since Misty missed the [[Oddish (Pokémon)|"Water-type"]] she tried to catch in [[EP010]]. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:01, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

== Alternate Sprites ==

Oh, since we're on the subject, let's change the MS sprites too! >.> No, seriously, what difference would it make even if we DID have alternate sprites? The best we could do is {{u|Shiny Noctowl}}, and it's an official sprite. Squirtle appeared mostly without its glasses, thus, GET RID OF THEM. Primape and the belt? Wow! The belt got stuck on him for ten minutes and you already want to put it there??? Seriously, folks, ARE WE USING THE ALTERNATE SPRITES OR WHAT? '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''07:38 7 Jun 2008'''''

: In my opinion, we shouldn't be using these altered sprites. As Optimus35 pointed out, most of these alterations are things that appeared for a few minutes in a few episodes. More importantly, the Bulbapedia is ''not'' a place for fan art. If the artist is trying to showcase their art, the Bulbapedia is not the way to do it. [[User:Trainer-c|Trainer-c]] 12:52, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

:: I concur, sort of. Taivource does seem to be on a "Everyone behold my cool sprites." binge. Kenji-girl seems to like the Treecko-line ones, though (and to be fair, they are good). [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 12:56, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
:::Just because we're an encyclopedia of Pokémon doesn't mean every sprite on every page has to be EXACTLY out of a game, does it? '''[[User:Pachirisulover12|PL]][[User talk:Pachirisulover12|12]]''' 13:00, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::If it was a commonly re-occurring theme, then an alternate sprite singles it out as unique, which could be gathered from what I know about the Treeko and evolutions. [[User:Gywall|Gywall]] 13:01, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

WE ARE USING THE ALTERNATE SPRITES, except for the trainer ones, and I actually might've put the yellow stars on Janina's Onix. And, for example Taisei's Piplup wore the tiara all episode--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 13:05, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

: OH, ARE WE NOW? Thanks for being so open to discussion, Kuki. [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 13:11, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

What's that supposed to mean. And Squirtle's glasses, as leader of the squirtle Squad, he's wearing them all the time probably--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 13:19, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
:''If'' it is a significant part of their character design (eg. Noctowl, Treecko/Grovyle without the flower/Sceptile, maybe Squirtle) it is worth featuring the altered sprites. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 13:30, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Exactly they are not just any ordinary Squirtle, Onix, Piplup, or Dustox, there is a special piece of design that seperates them from the ordinary ones. [[User:Sailor Earth|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Sailor Earth| of]][[User talk:Sailor Earth| Earth]] 17:06, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::Exactly. They each have their own significant and reminds us all about all the good times in the anime.--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 17:10, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Plus, Dustox, Squirtle, Primeape, and Butterfree belong/ed to main characters. And remember how we did an alternate sprite for {{an|May}}'s Venusaur as a Bulbasaur--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 17:16, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::We did?--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 17:19, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Not we, but Bulbapedia as a community. The link is there, hover over Bulbasaur, and voila! PROOF!--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 17:24, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
:For the record, I entirely disagree with the Onix sprite. (She tried cheating one time and then had to wash it off.) But this is Ash's talk page so let's stick to those sprites here. The consensus seems to be to keep the alternate sprites and they don't hurt. Are there any valid reasons to not have them? --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 17:49, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::Also, Grovyle needs to lose the flower and Sceptile's twig needs correcting. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 17:49, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

:::Remember, shortly b4 Grovyle evolved, the flower bloomed? Thus the flower stays!--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 17:53, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

::::It was actually wwhen Meganium used Synthesis--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 17:58, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::But that is the main point against some of the sprites: It was a normal twig for almost the entire time it was on the show. For the character design argument to work, you have to actually show its normal character design. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 18:01, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::::::But what if he changes the twig? Can the sprites stay? '''[[User:Pachirisulover12|PL]][[User talk:Pachirisulover12|12]]''' 18:03, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Yeah, it just needs a little editing. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 18:13, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

::Sceptile can have less attention. But what about Nurse Joy's Chansey with the hat? That also keeps on getting deleted.--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 18:09, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
:::This is not Nurse Joy's page, but that is also a common character design. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 18:13, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::::I fixed Joy's page, and added the Pokémon she gave to Stephanie and her dad in AGO34--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 18:15, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::Alright. Thanks, Fabu-Vinny. Thanks, Kuki....but can I fix the Sceptile sprite?--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 18:29, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Sure, cuz I dunno how--KukiTalk

:This is getting downright ridiculous. What do a few pixels matter? I agree with Squirtle and the Treecko family, but Butterfree with scarf and Primeape with belt? Guys, PLEASE, stop having so many alternate sprites!!!
:And, I thought I removed Grovyle's flower. Please, people. Keep this up and we'll eternally ban you from the archives (and Bulbapedia, I guess...) if you keep reuploading and uploading thesep ics. I know you put much effort into them but...They're putting quite a load on the server. That's why there are 26,570 files in the Archive while we only need 26000. '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''02:16 8 Jun 2008'''''
::I kinda agree, especially because they're low quality sprites. Take it from someone who has been spriting for a long time. They aren't good. tc26 02:20, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

You are totally unfair! The majority of support is for the alternate sprites and then you threaten them with blocking because they don't agree with you. I know we are not the same as Wikipedia but on wiki we have consensus where the majority of support wins, or is this an admin dictatorship. [[User:Sailor Earth|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Sailor Earth| of]][[User talk:Sailor Earth| Earth]] 08:52, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
:You do realise that your 'majority' is completely made out of inexperienced users (Excluding Kuki and PL12, who I consider adequate in MediaWIki skills) who barely know that <nowiki></nowiki> will give you text in Comic Sans. People! In the past year (Let's call it the Jurassic), plenty of things have happened. Several vandal attacks. Several fake vandals (Including this account -anime sweatdrop-). These helped to mature our users. Your 'majority' arrived about the late Cretaceous. You know what would happen if you keep it up? That's right. The {{wp|Cretaceous–Tertiary extinction event}}. Do you want Bulbapedia to overload? Do you want our hard work to fall through the hole? People! If you want to change Bulbapedia's standards, GET YER OWN WIKI!!! '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''06:23 9 Jun 2008'''''
:: Don't be so melodramatic. The community as a whole is keeping a better eye on it than that... [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 11:44, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Kuki is an experienced user???????????????????? [[User:Sailor Earth|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Sailor Earth| of]][[User talk:Sailor Earth| Earth]] 10:03, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Kenji-Girl supports alternate sprites, she is very profesional. [[User:Sailor Earth|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Sailor Earth| of]][[User talk:Sailor Earth| Earth]] 10:04, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

:And your point is? [[User:Crystallucario|~'''Crystal''']][[User talk:Crystallucario|~'''Lucario~''']] 11:21, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

I'd navigated this site before becoming a user--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 14:16, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

My point Crystal, is that earlier the comment was made that only un-experienced users supported these sprites and Kenji-Girl is more profesional than most and has common sense, '''and doesn't jump to conclusions''' which is more than can be said {{tt|for some|Darth Cookie Monster, who I thought was my friend until he started constantly insulting me}} [[User:Sailor Earth|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Sailor Earth| of]][[User talk:Sailor Earth| Earth]] 18:39, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
:I'm an admin and I support some of the sprites...
:But things really need to calm down here. It certainly isn't worth creating a riot over. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 18:58, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
::Thanks and I agree with you now.--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 19:00, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Actually, we should keep the squirtle and butterfree sprites, since that was how they were last seen.--[[User:Starlight the ampharos|Starlight_the_ampharos]] 21:31, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

I concur Ampharos. The squirtle and butterfree sprites should be kept, but not primeape's belt or buneary's vest. We are getting way too far out there..... --[[User:Cat2killer|Catu42]] 22:36, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
:Why is Butterfree more special than Primeape? Also, the argument against the vest has weakened now that Buneary wears it so frequently. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 13:17, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

==That last piece of trivia==

For some reason I can't delete that piece of trivia at he bottom of the list and Ireally need to for one simple reason. Its totally wrong. It can't be a trend of Ash catching a flying type, grass, fire and then water because it happens once! Kanto- bug, flying, grass, fire, water. Thats got bug at the start. Johto- bug, grass, fire, water, flying. Noctowl was caught after cyndaquil and he had heracross. Hoenn- flying, grass, water, fire. Water and fire are the wrong way round. Kanto is a main region and so the battle fronteir arc has only the capture of aipom, a normal tyoe. It can't be a trend if it only happens in 1 region! Because I can't delete it for some reason I implore you to get rid of it. A trend has to happen alot more than once. [[User:TheAlmightyChris|TheAlmightyChris]] 21:55, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

:You can't delete it because Fabu-Vinny protected the page (have a look at the page history). [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 00:34, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. I guessed that was the reason. However that really doesn't stop it being wrong and there [[User:TheAlmightyChris|TheAlmightyChris]] 16:34, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

== Ash dressing up ==

In this article it mentions ash's three times cross dressing and his two time having to dress up as fruit. What it doesn't mention is the number of times he has to dress up as an actual pokemon. I can only remember him being Mr. Mime in 'Mr. Mime Time' and as an Octillery in 'Octillery the Outcast'. Im pretty sure there are a few others, can anyone remember, thnx! I just somehow have feeling there may be a few more beside the one's i have said and the one below {{unsigned|Dragonboy}}
:I remember him dressing up as Seviper to teach Nicolai's Zangoose how to battle with one. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 06:00, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

== Electric Tale of Pikachu - Needed Verification ==

Did ash have a Beedrill in Electric Tale of Pikachu manga? Don't remember it. I think someone spreads fake information. I also don't remember any Mankey traded for a fake map. Can anyone verify these informations? --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 10:43, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

No he did not. However, in the second issue, he caught a Mankey, which he did trade for a map. It wasn't actually fake, just very poorly drawn. [[User:Midnight Celtic|Midnight]][[User talk:Midnight Celtic|Celtic]] 20:36, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

He catches Beedrill with Mankey. [[User:Lunick v sonela|Lunick v sonela]] 15:42, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

== Agh so close to hitting it... ==

But still under the wondrous 10% of all Pokémon. C'mon, Chimchar, evolve soon! '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:37, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

In the article, it says :
"The most badges Ash has ever gotten in the first thirty-five episodes were five badges in Kanto, which makes sense considering that Kanto was significantly shorter than any other saga (aside from the Orange Island saga and the Battle Frontier saga). In every other region thus far, he has only won two badges in the first thirty-five episodes."
It's wrong : he had 6 badges by EP035, as he won :
Boulder Badge in EP005
Cascade Badge in EP007
Thunder Badge in EP014
Marsh Badge in EP024
Rainbow Badge in EP026
Soul Badge in EP032

== Befriending Movie Pokemon(IMPORTANT) ==

We've discussed this and since May has Manaphy, Max has Jirachi, I think Ash should have Latias and Lucario! Any1 agree?--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 12:36, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
:In none of that discussion has anyone given a decent reason for why the '''list of Pokémon owned by Ash''' should have a section for Pokémon he was simply friendly with. It has to much potential to get out of hand. May's page has had Manaphy removed before and Max is the exception because he doesn't own any Pokémon to begin with. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 18:59, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

:: There should be a befriended part.--[[User:Starlight the ampharos|Starlight_the_ampharos]] 21:36, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
:::No. There should not be a befriended section. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 15:51, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
::::Ash befriends every Pokemon he finds even when it isn't a movie. So no. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 22:01, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::A "'''Pokémon Ash doesn't like'''" section would be more realistic, and that itself certainly wouldn't be worth putting in the article. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 22:52, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

== Matnine Overboard ==
Is it notable that Ash was apparently able to recognize what a Mantine is in "Mantine Overboard" depite having never seen one before? The same thing could be said about Regice in the 8th movie but that could be easily explained; If (off-camera)someone explained Registeel, Regirock, and Regice the only one left was Regice (simple process of elimination). But the Mantine one has me confused. I suppose it's possible Ash saw a Mantine in his past before becoming a trainer. --[[User:Dman dustin|Dman dustin]] 18:27, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Yeah that always happens in the anime. They know Pokemon theyve never mentioned or seen b4. Like James and Carnivine. Whenever they go to a new region Brock already knows all the pokemon and what they evolve into despite never mentioning them in the past. [[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 18:33, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
:Are you two forgetting that Ash saw one in [[EP214]] and another in [[EP256]]? ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 18:34, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

214 is Mantine Overboard, the one Dman Dustin is talking about isnt it? [[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 18:35, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
:Nevermind...That's my fault, (For some reason, I thought he was talking about Steamboat Willies.) ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 18:38, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

::Every time a new batch of Pokémon are created, the anime seems to retcon the fact that they have never existed before. When Gen V Pokémon are revealed, the anime will treat them as if they were there from the beginning. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 18:41, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

:TV, Books, and Pokémon games exist in the pokemon world aswell. Also it's not big brother, things would occur off camera and, chances are, if he did see a Mantine in person, it was being minded by Prof. Oak or something like that.
::No matter how it might look shows never show everything frame-by-frame, and neither do movies. Chances are that Ash could see a lot of Pokémon off-camera. And about Brock, I'd assume that he studies about Pokémon off-camera. Also I have never seen a real-life dragon, but that won't stop me from recognizing one if I ever get the chance of seeing one. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 22:07, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

== 3 of 4 gym leaders thing ==

In the trivia bit it says 3 of the 4 female Gym Leaders have turtle based pokemon like he does. What region are we talking about as there are way more than 4 female Gym Leaders overall. Thankyou for your time. [[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 09:54, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Oh I see, 3 of the 4 gym leaders mentioned in the trivia before. Thankyou for your time. [[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 09:56, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

== Question ==

Do [[Leona]] and [[Nando]] qualify as rivals for Ash? [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 03:44, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
:Nando yes. Leona, no. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 04:43, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

== Hurting a Pokémon ==

I can think of at least two occasions Ash has hurt a Pokémon, Drapion in the Riolu special and Squirtle in EP012 (before he caught it). The Advanced Series/Orange Islands are fuzzy for me, I only remember some of the better episodes, can anyone think of any others? {{unsigned|Aura-Knight}}
:Sign your post please. And why are you talking about the Pokémon he's hurt? Just wondering...[[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 13:25, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
::Also, Aura-Knight, he hurt MEOWTH in EP012, not Squirtle. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 16:41, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

== categorised trivia anyone? ==

maybe an "in universe" and "out of universe" sections to seperate character trivia and behind the scenes trivia. maybe even another section for pokemon owned, there's that many [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 23:08, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

==I hate to open up an old can of worms, but...==
I'm completely against the alternate Primeape and Butterfree sprites. They had the the belt/scarf for less than a whole episode, the episodes they left nonetheless. I think the others are fine since they were frequent parts of their characters (Treecko line's twig, Squirtle's sunglasses somewhat), but the belt and scarf are ridiculous. I'm not going to remove them myself since it's bound to start an edit war, so I'm asking for opinions first. '''~[[User:RR|R]][[User talk:RR|R]]~''' 04:29, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
:What i think it is is that weve got to have the most upto date images. The last time they were seen. So if they came back and didnt have them then the alternate sprites would have to be removed. Its like how on {{an|may}} the pic is of her emerald uniform although she spent loads more time in her Ruby uniform, but the most upto date is Emerald, even if it was only for 3 episodes. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 09:43, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
::And for both, it was a signifigant reason that they left, Brock gave the scarf to Butterfree so it could score a mate, thus triggering its departure. Primeape went away to further its abilities after winning because it only really won by a fluke. Butterfree was seen with the scarf later and Primeape with the belt as well. [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 01:31, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
:::Not quite, Aura Knight. Primeape is seen without the belt in Spurt, which is the most recent appearence of him, which going by Guardian's logic means that the alternate sprite shouldn't be there. '''~[[User:RR|R]][[User talk:RR|R]]~''' 03:53, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
::::I'm going to leave this alone, but Primeape needs to lose <s>some weight</s> that belt. '''[[User:Optimatum|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]]|[[User:Optimatum/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''11:20 27 Aug 2008'''''
:::::Further, the Butterfree in Spurt ''does'' have Brock's scarf. My stance is that it should be a significant part of their character design for it to count. So it looks like Primeape is losing the belt but Butterfree can stay as-is for now. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 13:47, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
::::::i agree with that. thats fair --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 14:00, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

== Manga Clefable ==

While we don't have a befriended section for the anime, we do still list Haunter and Larvitar so precedent can go any way. What is the exact situation for Ash and Clefable in the manga? --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 12:41, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
:{{tt|Well|Responding to clear up any future doubts on this score, and yes, it is an old comment}}, I actually have that section of Electric Tale that I got with the old school VHS tapes. Ash found Clefairy, tried to capture it, met Bill and Oak, then ended up conking it with a Moon Stone in an evolution ceremony. Belongs in the befriended section as Oak and Bill commented that Clefairy taught Ash about something or other. Very metaphorical. --- Aura-Knight 01:24, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
::No, Bill and Oak befriended all of them. Ash only befreinded one. [[User:Lunick v sonela|Lunick v sonela]] 15:47, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

== Protection? ==

Why is this page protected again and why until my birthday (Sept. 30)? --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 22:55, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
:There were multiple reversions over the manga Pokémon list, though none of those involved have actually replied to the above topic... --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 23:32, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
::I'm going to go through with my original plan and unprotect it now. If anyone still wants to put the befriended section in, give your reasons in the section above before editing the article again. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 21:17, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

== Why arent the new sprites for Charmander etc. ==
Why arent the new sprites for Charmander etc used??--[[User:Wowy|Wowy]] 07:13, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
:There aren't any new sprites for Charmander, etc. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 14:48, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
::THere are according to the charmnder page--[[User:Wowy|Wowy]] 06:21, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
:::Then it's just that no one has updated the image yet. [[a:Image:004.png]] is used all over the wiki, not just on this page, you know. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 14:25, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
::::Some butthead uploaded the second frame sprites for a few of the old Pokémon. The Pt sprites for non-Sinnoh dex/non-Gen IV Pokémon did not change. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 17:50, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
:::Who's that nutthead?--[[User:Tavisource/Custom Sprite Project|☆]][[User:Tavisource|Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 22:46, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

{{u|Squirtleman}}--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 22:50, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

== Protect this ==
Please, before the edits ''"OMG Twrtwig evolvezzzz!"'' --[[User:Nick.|Nick.]] 17:07, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

== New thing for trivia ==

Should it be noted that Ash has died at least three times during the series? 1- The episode with the ghost pokemon, "Tower of Terror" I think, the chandelier fell on him and Pikachu. 2- "Mewtwo Strikes Back," he tried to stop the battle between Mew and Mewtwo and was turned to stone by the attacks. 3- "Lucario and the Mystery of Mew," the Tree of Beginning's "immune system" absorbed him. This is worth mentioning![[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 21:16, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
:Not sure if "died" is the right word to use, but I agree, it's worth mentioning. – [[User:RyanCross|'''Ryan'''Cross]] ([[User talk:RyanCross|''talk'']]) 21:17, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
::no, before he was absorbed, Lucario took over. he was fine. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 21:21, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
:::And it was mentioned before, but it was removed a long time ago. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psychic''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]''''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 21:22, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
::::Ash never officially died. He got turned into a ghost temporarily, I don't count that as a death. Turning into stone is not the same thing as dying either. It does sometimes happen in fiction that somebody dies and is recovered back to life by magic, however that did not happen. There was some magic involved when the Pokémon cried at the end of the first movie, but he got turned into stone, that's not the same thing as dying. I have only watched the Lucario movie once, so I'm not sure what to say about that. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 00:48, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::Yeah, technically the tree "removed" him and the humans. It didn't kill them, otherwise Mew wouldn't have been able to revive them, even with the anime physics. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psychic''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]''''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 00:52, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
Um, If you ask me, if you turn into a ghost, you sort of have to be dead. Stone isn't alive, so Ash woldn't be alive if he's turned to stone- hate to tell you, but that's the same as being dead. As for the tree's immune system, that's controversial, just like if Lucario itself died at the end of the movie. I understand that last, but besides that, Ash dies at least a couple of times.[[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 22:40, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
:You make a good point, trolls die when they get turned into stones. (by trolls I mean the creatures, not spammers) Ok, I have to admit, you really managed to outsmart me with your remarks. But I have one question though, if a person freezes, but gets warmed up, would that count as death? [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 22:51, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
Um, not sure, that's more like suspended animation. Unless ice crystals form in the bloodstream.[[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 22:29, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

== Temporary Pokémon ==

In regards to both this and [[Misty]]'s article, where Togepi is below her temporarily borrowed Pokémon, I don't see why Temporary comes before Given away (or in Misty's case Released) Pokémon - I would have thought it neater to group the Pokémon that have actually been officially acquired, as opposed to separating them with Pokémon that have only been briefly utilised (and, presumably, not added to their Pokédex). -[[User:Damien Nightstar|Damien Nightstar]] 12:07, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

==Turtwig evolved!!!!!!!!!!!!!!==
can some one change the turwig to grotle and update turtwigs page cuz it evolved! lol [[User:Ritchie|Ritchie]]
:No it didn't. That's next week's episode. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 14:55, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

::Besides, there's no guarantee that the change will simply be reflecting an evolution. I sense shades of [[EP081|''Pallet Party Panic'']] here...--[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 15:14, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
:::go to serebii.net [[User:Ritchie|Ritchie]]
::::We have that "Until it airs" policy, so we can't edit anything. Anyway, Merrick =/= 100% Confirmed. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 15:18, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

:::::serebii.net jumped the gun on {{TP|May|Glaceon}}, too.

:::::Besides, Bulbapedia's policy is "when it airs" ("it" refers to the episode itself). Not "when it's previewed". As far as we know, Ash's team at the end of the episode could (and probably will) be Pikachu, Staravia, Buizel, Chimchar, and Gliscor with one empty slot (indicating leaving Grotle with the herd). --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 15:22, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
::::::ooo , aight [[User:Ritchie|Ritchie]]
:::::::ASH ISN'T GOING TO RELEASE GROTLE!
:::::::Anyway, we are in exactly the same situation as we were yesterday. The evolution has been confirmed since the Newtype summary was released. Serebii just updated Ash's bio today because we have a picture of it now. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 15:27, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
:Until it airs police. This is not the first time that a preview spoils something important... is it so diffcult to wait a week? We'll have a Grotle, we know. But wait. Just a week. Serebii is Serebii, it has its own rules, and Bulbapedia is Bulbapedia, we just have to wait --[[User:Nick.|Me]], [[User talk:Nick.|myself]] and [[Special:Contributions/Nick.|I]] 15:32, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
::Do I have to remind everyone that Serbii.net is edited by limited amount of people? We cannot guarantee it's correct, sure it has a lot of correct information, but when you see something you know is wrong, you can't just fix it like you can do on this site. This is why I believe "when it airs" policy exists. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 15:51, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
:::wow u guys are soo serious like why would u wait a week if u know its "confirmed" until it airs?? what a f*cked up rule [[User:Ritchie|Ritchie]]
::::Because the world will end if Bulbapedia is ever wrong. Do you want the world to end, no, then wait till it airs. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]]
:::::Seriously, it's only a week away. Is waiting really that hard? You should see some misleading trailers if you haven't already. If preview and a fansite is all the proof you have, then it can't be confirmed, since fansites can be wrong and previews can be misleading. Just wait a one week, patience is important, especially in this case. It's not like you have to wait a month. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 17:18, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
::::::Exactly, I couldnt have put it better TBM, I think we should get a mod to protect the page till next week. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]]
:::::::Confirmation isn't the issue here. Newtype's summaries are reliable. We have the rule because sometimes it is more vague and Turtwig is still a Turtwig at the end of the latest episode.
:::::::But information on Serebii's front page is usually right. The issue there is that it's a secondary source - he has the info because he got it from the same place as us. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 20:32, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
::::::::We knew about Gliscor and Swinub long before they evolved and were captured, you know. We knew Aipom would be evolving in DP060 at the end of DP059. We aren't moving it because the lists are always '''''AS OF THE MOST RECENT JAPANESE EPISODE'''''. The most recent episode was [[DP099]]. Turtwig didn't evolve in that one, ergo, it's Ash's Turtwig. Don't even think of changing it, Ritchie. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 21:01, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

TTE and Fabu, are you agreeing with me and TBM or with Ritchie, we say it shouldnt be on there yet, he says it should. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]]
:"Because the world will end if Bulbapedia is ever wrong. Do you want the world to end, no, then wait till it airs."- then why is there such a thing called previews. it was there for a reason. seeing that will give us the urge to watch it and it also about wraps up what will happen on that episode. clearly the episode preview for the turwig,grotle,torterra episode was on serebii and i dont know why u wouldnt agree. can you give me a reason BESIDES that bulbapedia has to wait ill it airs..can u??? [[User:Ritchie|Ritchie]]
*Well, If you want another reason, I'll give you a reason. Sometime ago, way before [[DP034|Buizel your way out of this]] Aired in Japan, they had a preview showing Ash and Pikachu battling it for almost the entire preview, whileas Dawn and Piplup were seen battling Buizel in only one frame, thus implying at that time that Ash was the one capturing it. So, that's one reason why we have that rule. Actually, now that I think about it, that preview [or rather, Buizel itself] IS the reason why we even have that rule. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 23:31, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
::They are on your side.--[[Bulbapedia:Project Custom Sprite|☆]][[User:Tavisource|Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 23:47, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
:::Ritchie, I already gave you my reasons, and they are not just about policy. Would you mind telling me why you don't agree with that? Really, I'd love to know since it's so important to you that it stays on this page. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 01:05, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

== Name? ==
Do you think it's possible that the English name 'Ash' could have also come from the word 'rash'? Anabel, when translating for Pikachu, did say that sometimes he can act rash, and wasn't it also mentioned in the Pokélantis episode? [[User:Ayla|Ayla]] 22:10, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
:Ash is short for Ashley --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]]
[[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]]
::"Ashley" isn't a reason for the name, unless you think it was chosen with [[EP026]] in mind. His rash attitude is definately an interesting possibility but the examples where it is explicitly mentioned are far later. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 14:51, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
:::Im not trying to argue with you, but Ash is a shortened version for Ashley. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]]
::::Yes it is. But that fact alone isn't the reason 4Kids chose Ash. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 19:01, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::I agree with FabuVinny. And also, GuardianOfEarth, if Ash IS short for Ashley, then why would they pick that name? Is there some kind of reasoning behind that? [[User:Ayla|Ayla]] 19:02, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
::::::I dont know how reliable the source was but I seem to remember it being s'''A'''to'''SH'''i which when the capital letters are rearranged spells Ash. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]]
:::::::Er, Guardian? That source is Bulbapedia. This page, in fact. It says that on the bottom. [[User:Ayla|Ayla]] 22:12, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
:You guys should take it to the forums...to {{u|Ayla}}, that may not be true, as he may have got it from somewhere else, but realized it was posted later on here. [[User:Ht14|''ht'']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 22:14, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
::I think the idea is to add it to the article. The rash thing isn't anything more than trivia, though. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 19:27, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
:::Ash is also short for Ashton... --[[User:Force Fire|Force]] [[User talk:Force Fire|''Fire'']] 07:09, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
Am I the only one who thought it was a connection to the other characters names being based on trees? Oak tree, Ash tree etc [[User:TheAlmightyChris|TheAlmightyChris]] 23:09, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
:I think that Ash's name came from Sacred Ash --[[User:Kamusioso|Kamusioso]]
::Unlikely. That item wasn't introudced until Gen II. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 19:19, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
But Ash saw Ho-oh in the first episode and Sacred Ash is Ho-oh's held item.-Kevin19980609
:Restating what was said above, the Sacred Ash wasn't introduced till GenII. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 21:52, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
::So 4Kids wouldn't have known about it yet. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 21:53, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

== Togepi ==
OK I jest back and now war over Togepi I jest got two words WHO CARES he had egg and Misty got Togepi END OF STORY![[User:XD007DarkRayquaza|XD007DarkRayquaza]] 22:56, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
:Ash found the egg. But the result of "who gets to keep Togepi" was Misty. Ash won the battle but not the prize. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 09:46, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
::No, he won the prize, but gave it to Misty. A'la Beedrill. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 11:53, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
:::He actually captured Beedrill. He didn't give it to Misty, he didn't have a choice. Togepi went to Misty. Besides this was an unoffical contest. As far as it's really known, no one has captured Togepi. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 12:01, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
::::So what he won that match? He didn't even touch Togepi or do anything with it at any time after it hatched. It went directly to Misty by itself. Ash never gave it to her. [[User:Jmath|'''Jm''']][[User talk:Jmath|'''a''']][[Special:Contributions/Jmath|'''th''']] 13:48, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::I think it's Ash who said that he'd give it to Misty. -[[User:Billy4b2004|Billy4b2004]] 03:08, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
::::::Yeah, he said it. But we all saw what happened. Togepi ran to Misty when Ash tried to touch it. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 04:51, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

== Larvitar's egg ==
Why is it different from Donphan's egg? In Donphan case, the word "egg" , the sign "→" and the word "Phanpy" is linked together, why isn't it the same for Larvitar's? And please add a notice on the page if it's protected.-[[User:Billy4b2004|Billy4b2004]] 13:56, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

== Is this Trivial Worth? ==

Ash has captured or had the first poison,grass,fire,flying,water,bug,fighting,normal and electric type pokemon in the pokedex.[[User:Collol|Collol]] 08:58, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
:Why not?--'''[[User:Diby|Di]][[User talk:Diby|b]][[Special:Contributions/Diby|y]]''' 13:11, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
Not really...I think Ash has enough trivia. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 21:21, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
::- on the Normal too, it's either Rattata or Pidgey, and he never captured either. He has, technically, capture the first Pokémon in every dex, which is more notable in my eyes (even though it just means he caught the starters). --- Aura-Knight 03:59, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

== How do I edit his pokemon template? ==

I need to know, since it's been officially confirmed now that Haunter was, indeed, Ash's Pokemon (both the dub and the original version of Haunter vs. Kadabra had Ash and Sabrina saying that Ash "Got" Haunter, implying that it is, officially, his pokemon, and I needed to move Haunter to "Given Away" due to this fact. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 23:55, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
:[[Template:Ash's Pokémon]]--[[Bulbapedia:Project Custom Sprite|☆]][[User:Tavisource|Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 00:03, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
::He never caught it, so it was never his to give away...so it is unofficial. And we've had discussion over this before... majority ruled unofficial. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 00:13, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
:::Even though Ash and Sabrina explicitly used the word "Get" [or the Japanese equivalent] in regards to Ash capturing Haunter in both the original and the dubbed version? Heck, usually when the word capture (or the japanese word get) is used in regards to it, it implies that it's part of the party, and thus an official member. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 00:23, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
::::Capturing means capturing it in a Pokéball. Same with {{AP|Larvitar}}. [[User:Jmath|'''Jm''']][[User talk:Jmath|'''a''']][[Special:Contributions/Jmath|'''th''']] 15:49, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::Then why is [[Misty's Togetic|Togetic/Togepi]] listed as a released pokémon or even an officially captured pokémon? Besides, there are cases where the pokémon is still not yours, even IF you captured it in a Poké Ball. Take [[Brock's Vulpix|Vulpix]], for example. That Pokémon was captured by Brock with a Poké ball, and yet even he said it wasn't even his to begin with. Basically, Haunter is to stay as a given away pokémon, since if even a Gym Leader in both versions referred to Haunter as being Ash's pokémon, having ownership of it, and saying he "got" it, that pretty much confirms that Haunter is officially his pokémon. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 00:51, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

== Well.... ==

Just want to know if this trivia is notable..
:Out of all the Pokémon that Ash owns, the last Pokémon that he has captured in every [[region]] except [[Kanto]] is part of {{DL|evolution|one-evolution families}}, namely {{p|Noctowl}}, {{p|Snorunt}} and {{p|Gligar}}. If the [[Orange Archipelago]] is also included, {{p|Snorlax}} also falls in this category.
[[User:Jmath|'''Jm''']][[User talk:Jmath|'''a''']][[Special:Contributions/Jmath|'''th''']] 21:12, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
:No. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 22:53, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

== I'm going to get decked by Tavisource for this... ==

...But Ash's Squirtle didn't wear the sunglasses that often. Only in a few episodes. If we are not letting Buneary have the vest for the very same reason, then I don't think we should have that sprite for Squirtle. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 20:57, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

:Buneary has only appeared a few times with the vest (although granted, she has only appeared a few times since getting the vest). Squirtle appeared in several major episodes with the glasses, and is assuredly currently wearing them as leader of the Squirtle Squad. [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 21:34, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
::The glasses are a big part of Squirtle's character and far less random than the vest. I personally put the line right there just because the Squirtle is so synonymous with the glasses. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 13:44, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
:::I agree with Vinny. The appearance of Squirtle's sunglasses are directly related to Squirtle's reaction to events. He takes them out when he's taking charge of a situation ([[EP060|Beach Blank-Out Blastoise]]), when his ego feels threatened ([[EP106|The Pokemon Water War]]), or when he wants to appear more threatening ([[Pikachu's Rescue Adventure]]). [[User:Legionaireb|Legionaireb]] 04:58, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

== Reason why I reverted the sprite edit ==

This is what I don't like about the rollback feature...

Anyway, that Chikorita sprite was just unacceptable. Let's use the DPPt version until we find a better one. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 05:37, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

== Champion ==

Why does it say that Ash is a champion? When did he won a pokemon league?(The orange league and the battle frontier are Campionchips, not Leagues).--[[User:Tomas|Tomas]] 12:54, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
:(The '''orange league''' and the battle frontier are Campionchips, not Leagues)
:There you go.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Ho-Oh (Pokémon)|orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Lugia (Pokémon)|ire]] 08:27, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
::It's called "The Orange League". It is a league. Just not a tournament type. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 08:32, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
It says it's a championchip in the article:Ash challenged the following Pokémon '''championships''' as well: List of battles (heavy spoiler)

'''[[Orange League]]''' (Champion)
'''[[Kanto]] [[Battle Frontier]]''' (Champion)
--[[User:Tomas|Tomas]] 13:15, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

== Propensity for Drowning ==

I'm not sure whether this is worth mentioning in the page, but Ash seems to have a knack for either nearly drowning or getting into situations where drowning is a likely possibility. I can think of about 9 instances off the top of my head. A short list includes [[EP016|Pokemon Shipwreck]] (trapped in a capsized ship), [[EP067|the Pi-Kahuna]] (after wiping out in the surf), [[Pokemon Heroes]] (when Oakley tries to stop him from entering the museum), and in [[Pokemon Ranger and the Temple of the Sea]] (when attempting to fix the crystal lattice in the flooded chamber.) Can some others weigh in, please? [[User:Legionaireb|Legionaireb]] 15:47, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
:There was also ''[[Holiday Hi-Jynx]]'' right when Lapras rescued him. And I guess the journey to New Island in Mewtwo Strikes Back. Oh, and the climax of the Second Movie (after Lawrence nearly killed Lugia), as well as when Ash filled Team Rocket's van with Water in the episode where he battled Ritchie. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 17:03, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

:It's just one of his character traits "courage" wich is probably listed in the article (I don't wanna scan the article to see if I'm right). He will do anything to save his allies and the common scenario he gets into is drowning.[[User:Vhayes1992|Vhayes1992]] 02:43, 28 July 2009 that in(UTC)

== Ash's age: A CLEAR EXPLANATION ==

Before you people come up with your opinions on Ash's age, take the time to wonder... Did it ever occur to any of you that this is a cartoon? Let me remind you of another show. You may have heard of it. It's called {{wp|The Simpsons}}. Bart Simpson, a ten year old boy, is one of the main characters. Now the show has been on for like 20 years and yet Bart is still 10. So stop thinking that it's so damn unbelievable that Ash is still ten years old when Bart Simpson has the same case. It's clear in The Simpsons that many years pass by as the kids go to school, get summer vacation, and go to school again, and still remain in the same grade and never age. The mentioning of passing years are mentioned all the time but no one ages.

In a nutshell this is a freakin cartoon people. Therefore they don't have to make the characters age. They may mention that years go by, but that doesn't mean they age. So I don't want any of you coming up with your theories here. Ash is, and will likely stay 10 until the series is over. If you believe otherwise then go to the forums and discuss it. I know that there are animes that age their characters, but Pokémon is NOT one of them. Learn to accept it. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 00:22, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
:Check out ''[[wp:Case Closed|Detective Conan]]''. It's an anime that's been running for longer than Pokémon, constantly references the time of year (with way too many events happing around New Year to make any sense) and yet none of the characters have aged a day.
:[[Aging in the anime]] states our policy on this. It isn't explicitly stated that anyone is any older (and you'd think Ash would mention if it was his birthday in the third Pikachu short) so we go by the only age that is canon. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 15:44, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
Well if the info on Paul's page is correct, paul has been to 3 regoins, while Ash has also been to the orange islands and in kanto again for the battle frontier, which makes it 5, so if paul is realy 11 then ash is at least older than him.--'''{{wp|Wikipedia|Wiki}}'''[[User:Tomas|''Tomas'']] 09:26, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
:... Region count has NOTHING to do with it. Eternal youth. End of discussion. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 18:47, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
Well, on my opinion, traveling through a region on foot takes some time, so if ash and paul are the same age than ash started eralyer than paul and if they started at around the same time, than ash is at least as old as paul or even older.But, it's only my version.--'''[[wp:Wikipedia|Wiki]]'''[[User:Tomas|''Tomas'']] 15:46, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
::Really. What part of "eternal youth" do you not understand? Don't you think Bart Simpson getting summer vacations every so often means he should get older? But he doesn't. CARTOON. ETERNAL YOUTH. I don't know how much clearer I need to make it. Cartoons =/= real life. If you reply to this with anymore of your theories, I'm giving you a short block. And that goes for the rest of you as well who can't seem to grasp that Pokémon is a cartoon. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 02:46, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

==Question about voice actor==

I have a question concerning an edit I'd might to do. In the box where the English voice actors names are it says "Sarah Natochenny (PUSA)". Should it be "Sarah Natochenny (TCPi)"? It's no longer PUSA anymore. [[User:Vhayes1992|Vhayes1992]] 23:52, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

I know what you are talking about but ash's voice actor is still same "Sarah Natochenny" and other voice actors (most of them) are same.
--♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''niz''']]♪♫ 06:02, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
:I mean, should we change it from PUSA to TPCi?-- [[User:Vhayes1992|Vhayes1992]] 06:55, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

I think firstly you have to get permission from the administrators.
--♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''niz''']]♪♫ 06:56, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

== Protect ==

I suggest someone protect this page. at least until DP146 (or DP145, i cant remember which) airs. my reson, because of the posibility of ash catching a Gible in this episode. [[User talk: ShinyPikachu|Shiny]][[User:ShinyPikachu|'''Pika''']] 23:28, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
:Not only this but Dawn, Brock, Jessie, and James also because they all have possibilities of getting Gible. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] '''''[[Special:Contributions/Turtwig_A|Contributions]]''''' '''''[[User talk:Turtwig A|Talk]]''''' 23:30, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
::If someone tries to add it to any of the main characters pages, I will protect them. For now, it'll remain editable. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 23:37, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
:::Excuse me guys, Ash already have 6 pokemon in his team, exceptions are there but use your common sense. --♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''niz''']]♪♫ 04:44, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
::::I agree with you, just hope there is no release and capture in one episode. Most likely not to happen.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 04:46, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::Ya, i hope so. --♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''niz''']]♪♫ 04:52, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::That doesn't mean he can't capture anymore Pokémon. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 04:54, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::::One word: Krabby!!!!!!!!--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 04:55, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::::I said that exceptions are there. --♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''niz''']]♪♫ 04:56, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::I know I just wanted to say that.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 04:58, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::But when he caught Krabby, he wasn't aware that it would be transferred away.--[[Bulbapedia:Project Custom Sprite|☆]][[User:Tavisource|Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 22:03, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

== ash's dad ==

http://www.serebii.net/anime/pictures/shinou/606ps8.shtml

12th row, 2nd picture.

could someone get this pic and post it? it confirms that his dad is not giovonni, oak, or silver, but an unnamed, never before seen man. {{unsigned|WaterUser}}

:[[Iizō and Kane Iino|Those people]] are from Twinleaf Town and are Dawn's neighbors...not from Pallet Town...--[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 22:51, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
::I believe he's talking about the guy with the Rapidash. That is NOT Ash's father. In fact, that guy looks like he's in his teens. God, why do people always jump to conclusions? This confirms nothing. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 02:40, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

:::Besides, the pictures don't line up the same on all displays. I've recently upgraded my monitor to a flat widescreen (with a new tower to go with it), and I'm currently on a 1300x768 resolution. There isn't even a row 12 in that resolution (only 10 rows of three each). --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 03:27, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

I thin that that man in the picture looks a little like '''[[Silver (anime)|Silver]]''', he is hust a bit younger and has slightly shorter hair and diferent clothes.--'''{{wp|Wikipedia|Wiki}}'''[[User:Tomas|''Tomas'']]09:14, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
:Enough with the speculation. This is now becoming forum content. If you want to discuss about this, take it to the forums. That is not Ash's father. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 18:45, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
Well, we don't know that exactly until it airs.--'''[[wp:Wikipedia|Wiki]]'''[[User:Tomas|''Tomas'']] 15:51, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
:It already aired ages ago. That's why we have pictures. The Rapidash trainer is to Ash what Ash is to that random kid - a random trainer that they look up to. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 18:49, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
I mean in english.--'''[[wp:Wikipedia|Wiki]]'''[[User:Tomas|''Tomas'']] 11:07, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

== Bottom page template ==

The External Links Template seems to be too big.

Can we put in a box that's say

"There are many template. Click "show".

I forgot the link to do that, we should hide it in a box.

--[[User:Ruixiang95|Ruixiang95]] 06:12, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

: Thanks [[User:The dark lord trombonator|The dark lord trombonator]], the template. That's what i mean~ --[[User:Ruixiang95|Ruixiang95]] 15:06, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

== Flying-types ==
Perhaps a good idea for the trivia: All of Ash's Flying-type Pokémon are on their final stage, these include: Pidgeot, Noctowl, Swellow, Staraptor, Gliscor, Charizard and Butterfree. [[User:Bigtukker|Bigtukker]] 08:45, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
:Personally I don't think it's notable. Remember that all types must be treated equally.- the same can be said of his Ground, Bug and Ice types, and If you count Aipom's evolution while it was with Dawn, his Normal types as well. Not to mention that there is too much trivia already. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 08:57, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

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thanks for the advice.--'''[[wp:Wikipedia|Wiki]]'''[[User:Tomas|''Tomas'']] 13:12, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

== Stop ==

Don't post your opinions on Ash's talk page about his age when I specifically asked you not to. There is a huge banner at the top of the page that says NOT to discuss it. If you want to talk about your theories on how old Ash is, go to the forums. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 02:43, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
Ok.--'''[[wp:Wikipedia|Wiki]]'''[[User:Tomas|''Tomas'']] 11:11, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Ash Ketchum/Archive 4

2009-10-05T15:51:10Z

Tomas: /* ash's dad */

<big><big><big>ASH'S AGE IS INDETERMINATE! AS OF EPISODE 1, HE IS 10 AS FAR AS IT'S KNOWN! PLEASE DO NOT POST ABOUT IT!</big></big></big>
== Previous discussions ==
* [[Talk:Ash Ketchum/Archive 1|Archive 1]]
* [[Talk:Ash Ketchum/Archive 2|Archive 2]]
* [[Talk:Ash Ketchum/Archive 3|Archive 3]]

== Trivia ==

In the trivia it says about Ash never catching a Pokemon when he has 6 in his party and then gives many exceptions, hardly a worthy piece of trivia, I would suggest removing it but I am afraid of back-lash from other users, so can anyone give their consensus. [[User:Sailor Earth|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Sailor Earth| of]][[User talk:Sailor Earth| Earth]] 20:27, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
:Krabby was at the beginning, there are 30 of those Tauros and Beedrill went straight to Casey. I think the fact is worth mentioning but I'm not sure how to reword it. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 23:11, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
::If thirty Tauros at once counts as many exceptions... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:59, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

==Ash Sprite==
I made a sprite of Ash: [[Image:Ash_Sprite.png]] I used Lucas (since they are very similar) and changed some features. How is it?--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 20:50, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

I say very good!--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 21:00, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! Kuki, you should talk to my younger brother, [[User:Diamaster|Diamaster]]. Does anyone have anything else for me to make?--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 21:03, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

How about we go through it together? Oh, how about giving [[Mimey]] a broom in its sprite on [[Delia]]'s page?--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 21:05, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

:I'll get to it. Feel free to e-mail me anytime you come with an idea. You are like my manager, or somewhat my boss. This works well.--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 21:07, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Should we start from the beginning?--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 21:14, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

I've just finished [[Mimey|Mimey's]] sprite. I'm ready for the list!--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 21:24, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

: It's good but is there any point of putting that in the Article? --[[User:Force Fire|Force Fire]] 09:37, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
:: Actually, last time we did this to Tyson's Meowth, the Cat got the Boot (Geddit? Geddit? Oh forget it...) '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''10:11 6 Jun 2008'''''
:::I have to agree... the sprites are neat (sort of; I've definitely seen better), but they don't really belong in the articles. Just because a Pokémon dresses differently doesn't mean it's not the same Pokémon. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 05:52, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::::All he was trying to do was give the Pokémon some individuality. I'm not sure I'm for the modified sprites of humans but we should let the Pokémon stay. Especially if they are tweaked just so slightly that it barely makes a difference. Like Ash's Sceptile. You can't say that looked bad. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 06:08, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::I understand that. And I guess the less obtrusive ones are OK (this is all just my opinion, anyway). But don't put "sprite by Taviource" on the pages; that's just advertising, which shouldn't be in the main namespace. It's fine that you put it on the images themselves; that way, people who are interested in the sprites can follow them to you, and people who aren't don't think you're a {{tt|whore|apologies if you find the word offensive}}. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 06:33, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::::::Yeah, that was a little out-of-bounds on his part. Still I think the Pokémon ones are cool.--[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 06:40, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::::I can't say that Sceptile looks bad but I can say that it looks incorrect since it had a different twig to Treecko/Grovyle. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 11:07, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
I'm sorry, but i just dont think that traviource's edits ar good enough.I personally think that they should be put back to normal or if it's allowed, http://pokesho.com/icon.html has really nice personalized sprites.I know there's a copyright rule but if you translate the page it says: Pokemon Icon Collection Freedom to use. Anywway, i dont know, but that was my thought.--Riot464

We want them to b somewhat, actuall mostly based off the games.--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 19:58, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Sweet! Pokemonboy 08:39, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

It looks like you used Red as a scratch, not Lucas. -Metagross72

Remarkable!--adyniz 12:58, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

Yeah it looks like Ash if he were in Pokemon Emerald -Usyflad10

== Sun Stone ==
does anyone know what happened to his sun stone from the bug catching contest? [[User:Mooites|Mooites]] 23:55, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

He used it on a Sunkern in [[EP187]]--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 23:58, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
:Not much of a waste since Misty missed the [[Oddish (Pokémon)|"Water-type"]] she tried to catch in [[EP010]]. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:01, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

== Alternate Sprites ==

Oh, since we're on the subject, let's change the MS sprites too! >.> No, seriously, what difference would it make even if we DID have alternate sprites? The best we could do is {{u|Shiny Noctowl}}, and it's an official sprite. Squirtle appeared mostly without its glasses, thus, GET RID OF THEM. Primape and the belt? Wow! The belt got stuck on him for ten minutes and you already want to put it there??? Seriously, folks, ARE WE USING THE ALTERNATE SPRITES OR WHAT? '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''07:38 7 Jun 2008'''''

: In my opinion, we shouldn't be using these altered sprites. As Optimus35 pointed out, most of these alterations are things that appeared for a few minutes in a few episodes. More importantly, the Bulbapedia is ''not'' a place for fan art. If the artist is trying to showcase their art, the Bulbapedia is not the way to do it. [[User:Trainer-c|Trainer-c]] 12:52, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

:: I concur, sort of. Taivource does seem to be on a "Everyone behold my cool sprites." binge. Kenji-girl seems to like the Treecko-line ones, though (and to be fair, they are good). [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 12:56, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
:::Just because we're an encyclopedia of Pokémon doesn't mean every sprite on every page has to be EXACTLY out of a game, does it? '''[[User:Pachirisulover12|PL]][[User talk:Pachirisulover12|12]]''' 13:00, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::If it was a commonly re-occurring theme, then an alternate sprite singles it out as unique, which could be gathered from what I know about the Treeko and evolutions. [[User:Gywall|Gywall]] 13:01, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

WE ARE USING THE ALTERNATE SPRITES, except for the trainer ones, and I actually might've put the yellow stars on Janina's Onix. And, for example Taisei's Piplup wore the tiara all episode--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 13:05, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

: OH, ARE WE NOW? Thanks for being so open to discussion, Kuki. [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 13:11, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

What's that supposed to mean. And Squirtle's glasses, as leader of the squirtle Squad, he's wearing them all the time probably--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 13:19, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
:''If'' it is a significant part of their character design (eg. Noctowl, Treecko/Grovyle without the flower/Sceptile, maybe Squirtle) it is worth featuring the altered sprites. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 13:30, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Exactly they are not just any ordinary Squirtle, Onix, Piplup, or Dustox, there is a special piece of design that seperates them from the ordinary ones. [[User:Sailor Earth|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Sailor Earth| of]][[User talk:Sailor Earth| Earth]] 17:06, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::Exactly. They each have their own significant and reminds us all about all the good times in the anime.--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 17:10, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Plus, Dustox, Squirtle, Primeape, and Butterfree belong/ed to main characters. And remember how we did an alternate sprite for {{an|May}}'s Venusaur as a Bulbasaur--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 17:16, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::We did?--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 17:19, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Not we, but Bulbapedia as a community. The link is there, hover over Bulbasaur, and voila! PROOF!--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 17:24, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
:For the record, I entirely disagree with the Onix sprite. (She tried cheating one time and then had to wash it off.) But this is Ash's talk page so let's stick to those sprites here. The consensus seems to be to keep the alternate sprites and they don't hurt. Are there any valid reasons to not have them? --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 17:49, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::Also, Grovyle needs to lose the flower and Sceptile's twig needs correcting. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 17:49, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

:::Remember, shortly b4 Grovyle evolved, the flower bloomed? Thus the flower stays!--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 17:53, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

::::It was actually wwhen Meganium used Synthesis--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 17:58, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::But that is the main point against some of the sprites: It was a normal twig for almost the entire time it was on the show. For the character design argument to work, you have to actually show its normal character design. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 18:01, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::::::But what if he changes the twig? Can the sprites stay? '''[[User:Pachirisulover12|PL]][[User talk:Pachirisulover12|12]]''' 18:03, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Yeah, it just needs a little editing. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 18:13, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

::Sceptile can have less attention. But what about Nurse Joy's Chansey with the hat? That also keeps on getting deleted.--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 18:09, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
:::This is not Nurse Joy's page, but that is also a common character design. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 18:13, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::::I fixed Joy's page, and added the Pokémon she gave to Stephanie and her dad in AGO34--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 18:15, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::Alright. Thanks, Fabu-Vinny. Thanks, Kuki....but can I fix the Sceptile sprite?--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 18:29, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Sure, cuz I dunno how--KukiTalk

:This is getting downright ridiculous. What do a few pixels matter? I agree with Squirtle and the Treecko family, but Butterfree with scarf and Primeape with belt? Guys, PLEASE, stop having so many alternate sprites!!!
:And, I thought I removed Grovyle's flower. Please, people. Keep this up and we'll eternally ban you from the archives (and Bulbapedia, I guess...) if you keep reuploading and uploading thesep ics. I know you put much effort into them but...They're putting quite a load on the server. That's why there are 26,570 files in the Archive while we only need 26000. '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''02:16 8 Jun 2008'''''
::I kinda agree, especially because they're low quality sprites. Take it from someone who has been spriting for a long time. They aren't good. tc26 02:20, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

You are totally unfair! The majority of support is for the alternate sprites and then you threaten them with blocking because they don't agree with you. I know we are not the same as Wikipedia but on wiki we have consensus where the majority of support wins, or is this an admin dictatorship. [[User:Sailor Earth|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Sailor Earth| of]][[User talk:Sailor Earth| Earth]] 08:52, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
:You do realise that your 'majority' is completely made out of inexperienced users (Excluding Kuki and PL12, who I consider adequate in MediaWIki skills) who barely know that <nowiki></nowiki> will give you text in Comic Sans. People! In the past year (Let's call it the Jurassic), plenty of things have happened. Several vandal attacks. Several fake vandals (Including this account -anime sweatdrop-). These helped to mature our users. Your 'majority' arrived about the late Cretaceous. You know what would happen if you keep it up? That's right. The {{wp|Cretaceous–Tertiary extinction event}}. Do you want Bulbapedia to overload? Do you want our hard work to fall through the hole? People! If you want to change Bulbapedia's standards, GET YER OWN WIKI!!! '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''06:23 9 Jun 2008'''''
:: Don't be so melodramatic. The community as a whole is keeping a better eye on it than that... [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 11:44, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Kuki is an experienced user???????????????????? [[User:Sailor Earth|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Sailor Earth| of]][[User talk:Sailor Earth| Earth]] 10:03, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Kenji-Girl supports alternate sprites, she is very profesional. [[User:Sailor Earth|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Sailor Earth| of]][[User talk:Sailor Earth| Earth]] 10:04, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

:And your point is? [[User:Crystallucario|~'''Crystal''']][[User talk:Crystallucario|~'''Lucario~''']] 11:21, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

I'd navigated this site before becoming a user--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 14:16, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

My point Crystal, is that earlier the comment was made that only un-experienced users supported these sprites and Kenji-Girl is more profesional than most and has common sense, '''and doesn't jump to conclusions''' which is more than can be said {{tt|for some|Darth Cookie Monster, who I thought was my friend until he started constantly insulting me}} [[User:Sailor Earth|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Sailor Earth| of]][[User talk:Sailor Earth| Earth]] 18:39, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
:I'm an admin and I support some of the sprites...
:But things really need to calm down here. It certainly isn't worth creating a riot over. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 18:58, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
::Thanks and I agree with you now.--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 19:00, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Actually, we should keep the squirtle and butterfree sprites, since that was how they were last seen.--[[User:Starlight the ampharos|Starlight_the_ampharos]] 21:31, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

I concur Ampharos. The squirtle and butterfree sprites should be kept, but not primeape's belt or buneary's vest. We are getting way too far out there..... --[[User:Cat2killer|Catu42]] 22:36, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
:Why is Butterfree more special than Primeape? Also, the argument against the vest has weakened now that Buneary wears it so frequently. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 13:17, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

==That last piece of trivia==

For some reason I can't delete that piece of trivia at he bottom of the list and Ireally need to for one simple reason. Its totally wrong. It can't be a trend of Ash catching a flying type, grass, fire and then water because it happens once! Kanto- bug, flying, grass, fire, water. Thats got bug at the start. Johto- bug, grass, fire, water, flying. Noctowl was caught after cyndaquil and he had heracross. Hoenn- flying, grass, water, fire. Water and fire are the wrong way round. Kanto is a main region and so the battle fronteir arc has only the capture of aipom, a normal tyoe. It can't be a trend if it only happens in 1 region! Because I can't delete it for some reason I implore you to get rid of it. A trend has to happen alot more than once. [[User:TheAlmightyChris|TheAlmightyChris]] 21:55, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

:You can't delete it because Fabu-Vinny protected the page (have a look at the page history). [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 00:34, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. I guessed that was the reason. However that really doesn't stop it being wrong and there [[User:TheAlmightyChris|TheAlmightyChris]] 16:34, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

== Ash dressing up ==

In this article it mentions ash's three times cross dressing and his two time having to dress up as fruit. What it doesn't mention is the number of times he has to dress up as an actual pokemon. I can only remember him being Mr. Mime in 'Mr. Mime Time' and as an Octillery in 'Octillery the Outcast'. Im pretty sure there are a few others, can anyone remember, thnx! I just somehow have feeling there may be a few more beside the one's i have said and the one below {{unsigned|Dragonboy}}
:I remember him dressing up as Seviper to teach Nicolai's Zangoose how to battle with one. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 06:00, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

== Electric Tale of Pikachu - Needed Verification ==

Did ash have a Beedrill in Electric Tale of Pikachu manga? Don't remember it. I think someone spreads fake information. I also don't remember any Mankey traded for a fake map. Can anyone verify these informations? --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 10:43, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

No he did not. However, in the second issue, he caught a Mankey, which he did trade for a map. It wasn't actually fake, just very poorly drawn. [[User:Midnight Celtic|Midnight]][[User talk:Midnight Celtic|Celtic]] 20:36, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

== Agh so close to hitting it... ==

But still under the wondrous 10% of all Pokémon. C'mon, Chimchar, evolve soon! '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:37, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

In the article, it says :
"The most badges Ash has ever gotten in the first thirty-five episodes were five badges in Kanto, which makes sense considering that Kanto was significantly shorter than any other saga (aside from the Orange Island saga and the Battle Frontier saga). In every other region thus far, he has only won two badges in the first thirty-five episodes."
It's wrong : he had 6 badges by EP035, as he won :
Boulder Badge in EP005
Cascade Badge in EP007
Thunder Badge in EP014
Marsh Badge in EP024
Rainbow Badge in EP026
Soul Badge in EP032

== Befriending Movie Pokemon(IMPORTANT) ==

We've discussed this and since May has Manaphy, Max has Jirachi, I think Ash should have Latias and Lucario! Any1 agree?--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 12:36, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
:In none of that discussion has anyone given a decent reason for why the '''list of Pokémon owned by Ash''' should have a section for Pokémon he was simply friendly with. It has to much potential to get out of hand. May's page has had Manaphy removed before and Max is the exception because he doesn't own any Pokémon to begin with. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 18:59, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

:: There should be a befriended part.--[[User:Starlight the ampharos|Starlight_the_ampharos]] 21:36, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
:::No. There should not be a befriended section. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 15:51, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
::::Ash befriends every Pokemon he finds even when it isn't a movie. So no. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 22:01, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::A "'''Pokémon Ash doesn't like'''" section would be more realistic, and that itself certainly wouldn't be worth putting in the article. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 22:52, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

== Matnine Overboard ==
Is it notable that Ash was apparently able to recognize what a Mantine is in "Mantine Overboard" depite having never seen one before? The same thing could be said about Regice in the 8th movie but that could be easily explained; If (off-camera)someone explained Registeel, Regirock, and Regice the only one left was Regice (simple process of elimination). But the Mantine one has me confused. I suppose it's possible Ash saw a Mantine in his past before becoming a trainer. --[[User:Dman dustin|Dman dustin]] 18:27, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Yeah that always happens in the anime. They know Pokemon theyve never mentioned or seen b4. Like James and Carnivine. Whenever they go to a new region Brock already knows all the pokemon and what they evolve into despite never mentioning them in the past. [[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 18:33, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
:Are you two forgetting that Ash saw one in [[EP214]] and another in [[EP256]]? ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 18:34, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

214 is Mantine Overboard, the one Dman Dustin is talking about isnt it? [[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 18:35, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
:Nevermind...That's my fault, (For some reason, I thought he was talking about Steamboat Willies.) ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 18:38, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

::Every time a new batch of Pokémon are created, the anime seems to retcon the fact that they have never existed before. When Gen V Pokémon are revealed, the anime will treat them as if they were there from the beginning. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 18:41, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

:TV, Books, and Pokémon games exist in the pokemon world aswell. Also it's not big brother, things would occur off camera and, chances are, if he did see a Mantine in person, it was being minded by Prof. Oak or something like that.
::No matter how it might look shows never show everything frame-by-frame, and neither do movies. Chances are that Ash could see a lot of Pokémon off-camera. And about Brock, I'd assume that he studies about Pokémon off-camera. Also I have never seen a real-life dragon, but that won't stop me from recognizing one if I ever get the chance of seeing one. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 22:07, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

== 3 of 4 gym leaders thing ==

In the trivia bit it says 3 of the 4 female Gym Leaders have turtle based pokemon like he does. What region are we talking about as there are way more than 4 female Gym Leaders overall. Thankyou for your time. [[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 09:54, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Oh I see, 3 of the 4 gym leaders mentioned in the trivia before. Thankyou for your time. [[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 09:56, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

== Question ==

Do [[Leona]] and [[Nando]] qualify as rivals for Ash? [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 03:44, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
:Nando yes. Leona, no. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 04:43, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

== Hurting a Pokémon ==

I can think of at least two occasions Ash has hurt a Pokémon, Drapion in the Riolu special and Squirtle in EP012 (before he caught it). The Advanced Series/Orange Islands are fuzzy for me, I only remember some of the better episodes, can anyone think of any others? {{unsigned|Aura-Knight}}
:Sign your post please. And why are you talking about the Pokémon he's hurt? Just wondering...[[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 13:25, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
::Also, Aura-Knight, he hurt MEOWTH in EP012, not Squirtle. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 16:41, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

== categorised trivia anyone? ==

maybe an "in universe" and "out of universe" sections to seperate character trivia and behind the scenes trivia. maybe even another section for pokemon owned, there's that many [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 23:08, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

==I hate to open up an old can of worms, but...==
I'm completely against the alternate Primeape and Butterfree sprites. They had the the belt/scarf for less than a whole episode, the episodes they left nonetheless. I think the others are fine since they were frequent parts of their characters (Treecko line's twig, Squirtle's sunglasses somewhat), but the belt and scarf are ridiculous. I'm not going to remove them myself since it's bound to start an edit war, so I'm asking for opinions first. '''~[[User:RR|R]][[User talk:RR|R]]~''' 04:29, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
:What i think it is is that weve got to have the most upto date images. The last time they were seen. So if they came back and didnt have them then the alternate sprites would have to be removed. Its like how on {{an|may}} the pic is of her emerald uniform although she spent loads more time in her Ruby uniform, but the most upto date is Emerald, even if it was only for 3 episodes. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 09:43, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
::And for both, it was a signifigant reason that they left, Brock gave the scarf to Butterfree so it could score a mate, thus triggering its departure. Primeape went away to further its abilities after winning because it only really won by a fluke. Butterfree was seen with the scarf later and Primeape with the belt as well. [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 01:31, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
:::Not quite, Aura Knight. Primeape is seen without the belt in Spurt, which is the most recent appearence of him, which going by Guardian's logic means that the alternate sprite shouldn't be there. '''~[[User:RR|R]][[User talk:RR|R]]~''' 03:53, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
::::I'm going to leave this alone, but Primeape needs to lose <s>some weight</s> that belt. '''[[User:Optimatum|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]]|[[User:Optimatum/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''11:20 27 Aug 2008'''''
:::::Further, the Butterfree in Spurt ''does'' have Brock's scarf. My stance is that it should be a significant part of their character design for it to count. So it looks like Primeape is losing the belt but Butterfree can stay as-is for now. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 13:47, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
::::::i agree with that. thats fair --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 14:00, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

== Manga Clefable ==

While we don't have a befriended section for the anime, we do still list Haunter and Larvitar so precedent can go any way. What is the exact situation for Ash and Clefable in the manga? --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 12:41, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
:{{tt|Well|Responding to clear up any future doubts on this score, and yes, it is an old comment}}, I actually have that section of Electric Tale that I got with the old school VHS tapes. Ash found Clefairy, tried to capture it, met Bill and Oak, then ended up conking it with a Moon Stone in an evolution ceremony. Belongs in the befriended section as Oak and Bill commented that Clefairy taught Ash about something or other. Very metaphorical. --- Aura-Knight 01:24, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

== Protection? ==

Why is this page protected again and why until my birthday (Sept. 30)? --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 22:55, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
:There were multiple reversions over the manga Pokémon list, though none of those involved have actually replied to the above topic... --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 23:32, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
::I'm going to go through with my original plan and unprotect it now. If anyone still wants to put the befriended section in, give your reasons in the section above before editing the article again. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 21:17, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

== Why arent the new sprites for Charmander etc. ==
Why arent the new sprites for Charmander etc used??--[[User:Wowy|Wowy]] 07:13, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
:There aren't any new sprites for Charmander, etc. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 14:48, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
::THere are according to the charmnder page--[[User:Wowy|Wowy]] 06:21, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
:::Then it's just that no one has updated the image yet. [[a:Image:004.png]] is used all over the wiki, not just on this page, you know. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 14:25, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
::::Some butthead uploaded the second frame sprites for a few of the old Pokémon. The Pt sprites for non-Sinnoh dex/non-Gen IV Pokémon did not change. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 17:50, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
:::Who's that nutthead?--[[User:Tavisource/Custom Sprite Project|☆]][[User:Tavisource|Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 22:46, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

{{u|Squirtleman}}--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 22:50, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

== Protect this ==
Please, before the edits ''"OMG Twrtwig evolvezzzz!"'' --[[User:Nick.|Nick.]] 17:07, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

== New thing for trivia ==

Should it be noted that Ash has died at least three times during the series? 1- The episode with the ghost pokemon, "Tower of Terror" I think, the chandelier fell on him and Pikachu. 2- "Mewtwo Strikes Back," he tried to stop the battle between Mew and Mewtwo and was turned to stone by the attacks. 3- "Lucario and the Mystery of Mew," the Tree of Beginning's "immune system" absorbed him. This is worth mentioning![[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 21:16, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
:Not sure if "died" is the right word to use, but I agree, it's worth mentioning. – [[User:RyanCross|'''Ryan'''Cross]] ([[User talk:RyanCross|''talk'']]) 21:17, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
::no, before he was absorbed, Lucario took over. he was fine. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 21:21, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
:::And it was mentioned before, but it was removed a long time ago. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psychic''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]''''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 21:22, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
::::Ash never officially died. He got turned into a ghost temporarily, I don't count that as a death. Turning into stone is not the same thing as dying either. It does sometimes happen in fiction that somebody dies and is recovered back to life by magic, however that did not happen. There was some magic involved when the Pokémon cried at the end of the first movie, but he got turned into stone, that's not the same thing as dying. I have only watched the Lucario movie once, so I'm not sure what to say about that. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 00:48, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::Yeah, technically the tree "removed" him and the humans. It didn't kill them, otherwise Mew wouldn't have been able to revive them, even with the anime physics. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psychic''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]''''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 00:52, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
Um, If you ask me, if you turn into a ghost, you sort of have to be dead. Stone isn't alive, so Ash woldn't be alive if he's turned to stone- hate to tell you, but that's the same as being dead. As for the tree's immune system, that's controversial, just like if Lucario itself died at the end of the movie. I understand that last, but besides that, Ash dies at least a couple of times.[[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 22:40, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
:You make a good point, trolls die when they get turned into stones. (by trolls I mean the creatures, not spammers) Ok, I have to admit, you really managed to outsmart me with your remarks. But I have one question though, if a person freezes, but gets warmed up, would that count as death? [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 22:51, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
Um, not sure, that's more like suspended animation. Unless ice crystals form in the bloodstream.[[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 22:29, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

== Temporary Pokémon ==

In regards to both this and [[Misty]]'s article, where Togepi is below her temporarily borrowed Pokémon, I don't see why Temporary comes before Given away (or in Misty's case Released) Pokémon - I would have thought it neater to group the Pokémon that have actually been officially acquired, as opposed to separating them with Pokémon that have only been briefly utilised (and, presumably, not added to their Pokédex). -[[User:Damien Nightstar|Damien Nightstar]] 12:07, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

==Turtwig evolved!!!!!!!!!!!!!!==
can some one change the turwig to grotle and update turtwigs page cuz it evolved! lol [[User:Ritchie|Ritchie]]
:No it didn't. That's next week's episode. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 14:55, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

::Besides, there's no guarantee that the change will simply be reflecting an evolution. I sense shades of [[EP081|''Pallet Party Panic'']] here...--[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 15:14, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
:::go to serebii.net [[User:Ritchie|Ritchie]]
::::We have that "Until it airs" policy, so we can't edit anything. Anyway, Merrick =/= 100% Confirmed. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 15:18, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

:::::serebii.net jumped the gun on {{TP|May|Glaceon}}, too.

:::::Besides, Bulbapedia's policy is "when it airs" ("it" refers to the episode itself). Not "when it's previewed". As far as we know, Ash's team at the end of the episode could (and probably will) be Pikachu, Staravia, Buizel, Chimchar, and Gliscor with one empty slot (indicating leaving Grotle with the herd). --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 15:22, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
::::::ooo , aight [[User:Ritchie|Ritchie]]
:::::::ASH ISN'T GOING TO RELEASE GROTLE!
:::::::Anyway, we are in exactly the same situation as we were yesterday. The evolution has been confirmed since the Newtype summary was released. Serebii just updated Ash's bio today because we have a picture of it now. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 15:27, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
:Until it airs police. This is not the first time that a preview spoils something important... is it so diffcult to wait a week? We'll have a Grotle, we know. But wait. Just a week. Serebii is Serebii, it has its own rules, and Bulbapedia is Bulbapedia, we just have to wait --[[User:Nick.|Me]], [[User talk:Nick.|myself]] and [[Special:Contributions/Nick.|I]] 15:32, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
::Do I have to remind everyone that Serbii.net is edited by limited amount of people? We cannot guarantee it's correct, sure it has a lot of correct information, but when you see something you know is wrong, you can't just fix it like you can do on this site. This is why I believe "when it airs" policy exists. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 15:51, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
:::wow u guys are soo serious like why would u wait a week if u know its "confirmed" until it airs?? what a f*cked up rule [[User:Ritchie|Ritchie]]
::::Because the world will end if Bulbapedia is ever wrong. Do you want the world to end, no, then wait till it airs. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]]
:::::Seriously, it's only a week away. Is waiting really that hard? You should see some misleading trailers if you haven't already. If preview and a fansite is all the proof you have, then it can't be confirmed, since fansites can be wrong and previews can be misleading. Just wait a one week, patience is important, especially in this case. It's not like you have to wait a month. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 17:18, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
::::::Exactly, I couldnt have put it better TBM, I think we should get a mod to protect the page till next week. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]]
:::::::Confirmation isn't the issue here. Newtype's summaries are reliable. We have the rule because sometimes it is more vague and Turtwig is still a Turtwig at the end of the latest episode.
:::::::But information on Serebii's front page is usually right. The issue there is that it's a secondary source - he has the info because he got it from the same place as us. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 20:32, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
::::::::We knew about Gliscor and Swinub long before they evolved and were captured, you know. We knew Aipom would be evolving in DP060 at the end of DP059. We aren't moving it because the lists are always '''''AS OF THE MOST RECENT JAPANESE EPISODE'''''. The most recent episode was [[DP099]]. Turtwig didn't evolve in that one, ergo, it's Ash's Turtwig. Don't even think of changing it, Ritchie. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 21:01, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

TTE and Fabu, are you agreeing with me and TBM or with Ritchie, we say it shouldnt be on there yet, he says it should. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]]
:"Because the world will end if Bulbapedia is ever wrong. Do you want the world to end, no, then wait till it airs."- then why is there such a thing called previews. it was there for a reason. seeing that will give us the urge to watch it and it also about wraps up what will happen on that episode. clearly the episode preview for the turwig,grotle,torterra episode was on serebii and i dont know why u wouldnt agree. can you give me a reason BESIDES that bulbapedia has to wait ill it airs..can u??? [[User:Ritchie|Ritchie]]
*Well, If you want another reason, I'll give you a reason. Sometime ago, way before [[DP034|Buizel your way out of this]] Aired in Japan, they had a preview showing Ash and Pikachu battling it for almost the entire preview, whileas Dawn and Piplup were seen battling Buizel in only one frame, thus implying at that time that Ash was the one capturing it. So, that's one reason why we have that rule. Actually, now that I think about it, that preview [or rather, Buizel itself] IS the reason why we even have that rule. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 23:31, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
::They are on your side.--[[Bulbapedia:Project Custom Sprite|☆]][[User:Tavisource|Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 23:47, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
:::Ritchie, I already gave you my reasons, and they are not just about policy. Would you mind telling me why you don't agree with that? Really, I'd love to know since it's so important to you that it stays on this page. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 01:05, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

== Name? ==
Do you think it's possible that the English name 'Ash' could have also come from the word 'rash'? Anabel, when translating for Pikachu, did say that sometimes he can act rash, and wasn't it also mentioned in the Pokélantis episode? [[User:Ayla|Ayla]] 22:10, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
:Ash is short for Ashley --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]]
[[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]]
::"Ashley" isn't a reason for the name, unless you think it was chosen with [[EP026]] in mind. His rash attitude is definately an interesting possibility but the examples where it is explicitly mentioned are far later. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 14:51, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
:::Im not trying to argue with you, but Ash is a shortened version for Ashley. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]]
::::Yes it is. But that fact alone isn't the reason 4Kids chose Ash. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 19:01, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::I agree with FabuVinny. And also, GuardianOfEarth, if Ash IS short for Ashley, then why would they pick that name? Is there some kind of reasoning behind that? [[User:Ayla|Ayla]] 19:02, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
::::::I dont know how reliable the source was but I seem to remember it being s'''A'''to'''SH'''i which when the capital letters are rearranged spells Ash. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]]
:::::::Er, Guardian? That source is Bulbapedia. This page, in fact. It says that on the bottom. [[User:Ayla|Ayla]] 22:12, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
:You guys should take it to the forums...to {{u|Ayla}}, that may not be true, as he may have got it from somewhere else, but realized it was posted later on here. [[User:Ht14|''ht'']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 22:14, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
::I think the idea is to add it to the article. The rash thing isn't anything more than trivia, though. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 19:27, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
:::Ash is also short for Ashton... --[[User:Force Fire|Force]] [[User talk:Force Fire|''Fire'']] 07:09, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
Am I the only one who thought it was a connection to the other characters names being based on trees? Oak tree, Ash tree etc [[User:TheAlmightyChris|TheAlmightyChris]] 23:09, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
:I think that Ash's name came from Sacred Ash --[[User:Kamusioso|Kamusioso]]
::Unlikely. That item wasn't introudced until Gen II. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 19:19, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
But Ash saw Ho-oh in the first episode and Sacred Ash is Ho-oh's held item.-Kevin19980609
:Restating what was said above, the Sacred Ash wasn't introduced till GenII. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 21:52, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
::So 4Kids wouldn't have known about it yet. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 21:53, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

== Togepi ==
OK I jest back and now war over Togepi I jest got two words WHO CARES he had egg and Misty got Togepi END OF STORY![[User:XD007DarkRayquaza|XD007DarkRayquaza]] 22:56, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
:Ash found the egg. But the result of "who gets to keep Togepi" was Misty. Ash won the battle but not the prize. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 09:46, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
::No, he won the prize, but gave it to Misty. A'la Beedrill. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 11:53, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
:::He actually captured Beedrill. He didn't give it to Misty, he didn't have a choice. Togepi went to Misty. Besides this was an unoffical contest. As far as it's really known, no one has captured Togepi. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 12:01, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
::::So what he won that match? He didn't even touch Togepi or do anything with it at any time after it hatched. It went directly to Misty by itself. Ash never gave it to her. [[User:Jmath|'''Jm''']][[User talk:Jmath|'''a''']][[Special:Contributions/Jmath|'''th''']] 13:48, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::I think it's Ash who said that he'd give it to Misty. -[[User:Billy4b2004|Billy4b2004]] 03:08, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
::::::Yeah, he said it. But we all saw what happened. Togepi ran to Misty when Ash tried to touch it. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 04:51, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

== Larvitar's egg ==
Why is it different from Donphan's egg? In Donphan case, the word "egg" , the sign "→" and the word "Phanpy" is linked together, why isn't it the same for Larvitar's? And please add a notice on the page if it's protected.-[[User:Billy4b2004|Billy4b2004]] 13:56, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

== Is this Trivial Worth? ==

Ash has captured or had the first poison,grass,fire,flying,water,bug,fighting,normal and electric type pokemon in the pokedex.[[User:Collol|Collol]] 08:58, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
:Why not?--'''[[User:Diby|Di]][[User talk:Diby|b]][[Special:Contributions/Diby|y]]''' 13:11, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
Not really...I think Ash has enough trivia. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 21:21, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
::- on the Normal too, it's either Rattata or Pidgey, and he never captured either. He has, technically, capture the first Pokémon in every dex, which is more notable in my eyes (even though it just means he caught the starters). --- Aura-Knight 03:59, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

== How do I edit his pokemon template? ==

I need to know, since it's been officially confirmed now that Haunter was, indeed, Ash's Pokemon (both the dub and the original version of Haunter vs. Kadabra had Ash and Sabrina saying that Ash "Got" Haunter, implying that it is, officially, his pokemon, and I needed to move Haunter to "Given Away" due to this fact. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 23:55, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
:[[Template:Ash's Pokémon]]--[[Bulbapedia:Project Custom Sprite|☆]][[User:Tavisource|Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 00:03, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
::He never caught it, so it was never his to give away...so it is unofficial. And we've had discussion over this before... majority ruled unofficial. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 00:13, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
:::Even though Ash and Sabrina explicitly used the word "Get" [or the Japanese equivalent] in regards to Ash capturing Haunter in both the original and the dubbed version? Heck, usually when the word capture (or the japanese word get) is used in regards to it, it implies that it's part of the party, and thus an official member. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 00:23, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
::::Capturing means capturing it in a Pokéball. Same with {{AP|Larvitar}}. [[User:Jmath|'''Jm''']][[User talk:Jmath|'''a''']][[Special:Contributions/Jmath|'''th''']] 15:49, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::Then why is [[Misty's Togetic|Togetic/Togepi]] listed as a released pokémon or even an officially captured pokémon? Besides, there are cases where the pokémon is still not yours, even IF you captured it in a Poké Ball. Take [[Brock's Vulpix|Vulpix]], for example. That Pokémon was captured by Brock with a Poké ball, and yet even he said it wasn't even his to begin with. Basically, Haunter is to stay as a given away pokémon, since if even a Gym Leader in both versions referred to Haunter as being Ash's pokémon, having ownership of it, and saying he "got" it, that pretty much confirms that Haunter is officially his pokémon. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 00:51, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

== Well.... ==

Just want to know if this trivia is notable..
:Out of all the Pokémon that Ash owns, the last Pokémon that he has captured in every [[region]] except [[Kanto]] is part of {{DL|evolution|one-evolution families}}, namely {{p|Noctowl}}, {{p|Snorunt}} and {{p|Gligar}}. If the [[Orange Archipelago]] is also included, {{p|Snorlax}} also falls in this category.
[[User:Jmath|'''Jm''']][[User talk:Jmath|'''a''']][[Special:Contributions/Jmath|'''th''']] 21:12, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
:No. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 22:53, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

== I'm going to get decked by Tavisource for this... ==

...But Ash's Squirtle didn't wear the sunglasses that often. Only in a few episodes. If we are not letting Buneary have the vest for the very same reason, then I don't think we should have that sprite for Squirtle. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 20:57, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

:Buneary has only appeared a few times with the vest (although granted, she has only appeared a few times since getting the vest). Squirtle appeared in several major episodes with the glasses, and is assuredly currently wearing them as leader of the Squirtle Squad. [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 21:34, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
::The glasses are a big part of Squirtle's character and far less random than the vest. I personally put the line right there just because the Squirtle is so synonymous with the glasses. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 13:44, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
:::I agree with Vinny. The appearance of Squirtle's sunglasses are directly related to Squirtle's reaction to events. He takes them out when he's taking charge of a situation ([[EP060|Beach Blank-Out Blastoise]]), when his ego feels threatened ([[EP106|The Pokemon Water War]]), or when he wants to appear more threatening ([[Pikachu's Rescue Adventure]]). [[User:Legionaireb|Legionaireb]] 04:58, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

== Reason why I reverted the sprite edit ==

This is what I don't like about the rollback feature...

Anyway, that Chikorita sprite was just unacceptable. Let's use the DPPt version until we find a better one. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 05:37, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

== Champion ==

Why does it say that Ash is a champion? When did he won a pokemon league?(The orange league and the battle frontier are Campionchips, not Leagues).--[[User:Tomas|Tomas]] 12:54, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
:(The '''orange league''' and the battle frontier are Campionchips, not Leagues)
:There you go.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Ho-Oh (Pokémon)|orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Lugia (Pokémon)|ire]] 08:27, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
::It's called "The Orange League". It is a league. Just not a tournament type. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 08:32, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
It says it's a championchip in the article:Ash challenged the following Pokémon '''championships''' as well: List of battles (heavy spoiler)

'''[[Orange League]]''' (Champion)
'''[[Kanto]] [[Battle Frontier]]''' (Champion)
--[[User:Tomas|Tomas]] 13:15, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

== Propensity for Drowning ==

I'm not sure whether this is worth mentioning in the page, but Ash seems to have a knack for either nearly drowning or getting into situations where drowning is a likely possibility. I can think of about 9 instances off the top of my head. A short list includes [[EP016|Pokemon Shipwreck]] (trapped in a capsized ship), [[EP067|the Pi-Kahuna]] (after wiping out in the surf), [[Pokemon Heroes]] (when Oakley tries to stop him from entering the museum), and in [[Pokemon Ranger and the Temple of the Sea]] (when attempting to fix the crystal lattice in the flooded chamber.) Can some others weigh in, please? [[User:Legionaireb|Legionaireb]] 15:47, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
:There was also ''[[Holiday Hi-Jynx]]'' right when Lapras rescued him. And I guess the journey to New Island in Mewtwo Strikes Back. Oh, and the climax of the Second Movie (after Lawrence nearly killed Lugia), as well as when Ash filled Team Rocket's van with Water in the episode where he battled Ritchie. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 17:03, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

:It's just one of his character traits "courage" wich is probably listed in the article (I don't wanna scan the article to see if I'm right). He will do anything to save his allies and the common scenario he gets into is drowning.[[User:Vhayes1992|Vhayes1992]] 02:43, 28 July 2009 that in(UTC)

== Ash's age: A CLEAR EXPLANATION ==

Before you people come up with your opinions on Ash's age, take the time to wonder... Did it ever occur to any of you that this is a cartoon? Let me remind you of another show. You may have heard of it. It's called {{wp|The Simpsons}}. Bart Simpson, a ten year old boy, is one of the main characters. Now the show has been on for like 20 years and yet Bart is still 10. So stop thinking that it's so damn unbelievable that Ash is still ten years old when Bart Simpson has the same case. It's clear in The Simpsons that many years pass by as the kids go to school, get summer vacation, and go to school again, and still remain in the same grade and never age. The mentioning of passing years are mentioned all the time but no one ages.

In a nutshell this is a freakin cartoon people. Therefore they don't have to make the characters age. They may mention that years go by, but that doesn't mean they age. So I don't want any of you coming up with your theories here. Ash is, and will likely stay 10 until the series is over. If you believe otherwise then go to the forums and discuss it. I know that there are animes that age their characters, but Pokémon is NOT one of them. Learn to accept it. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 00:22, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
:Check out ''[[wp:Case Closed|Detective Conan]]''. It's an anime that's been running for longer than Pokémon, constantly references the time of year (with way too many events happing around New Year to make any sense) and yet none of the characters have aged a day.
:[[Aging in the anime]] states our policy on this. It isn't explicitly stated that anyone is any older (and you'd think Ash would mention if it was his birthday in the third Pikachu short) so we go by the only age that is canon. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 15:44, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
Well if the info on Paul's page is correct, paul has been to 3 regoins, while Ash has also been to the orange islands and in kanto again for the battle frontier, which makes it 5, so if paul is realy 11 then ash is at least older than him.--'''{{wp|Wikipedia|Wiki}}'''[[User:Tomas|''Tomas'']] 09:26, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
:... Region count has NOTHING to do with it. Eternal youth. End of discussion. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 18:47, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
Well, on my opinion, traveling through a region on foot takes some time, so if ash and paul are the same age than ash started eralyer than paul and if they started at around the same time, than ash is at least as old as paul or even older.But, it's only my version.--'''[[wp:Wikipedia|Wiki]]'''[[User:Tomas|''Tomas'']] 15:46, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

==Question about voice actor==

I have a question concerning an edit I'd might to do. In the box where the English voice actors names are it says "Sarah Natochenny (PUSA)". Should it be "Sarah Natochenny (TCPi)"? It's no longer PUSA anymore. [[User:Vhayes1992|Vhayes1992]] 23:52, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

I know what you are talking about but ash's voice actor is still same "Sarah Natochenny" and other voice actors (most of them) are same.
--♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''niz''']]♪♫ 06:02, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
:I mean, should we change it from PUSA to TPCi?-- [[User:Vhayes1992|Vhayes1992]] 06:55, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

I think firstly you have to get permission from the administrators.
--♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''niz''']]♪♫ 06:56, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

== Protect ==

I suggest someone protect this page. at least until DP146 (or DP145, i cant remember which) airs. my reson, because of the posibility of ash catching a Gible in this episode. [[User talk: ShinyPikachu|Shiny]][[User:ShinyPikachu|'''Pika''']] 23:28, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
:Not only this but Dawn, Brock, Jessie, and James also because they all have possibilities of getting Gible. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] '''''[[Special:Contributions/Turtwig_A|Contributions]]''''' '''''[[User talk:Turtwig A|Talk]]''''' 23:30, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
::If someone tries to add it to any of the main characters pages, I will protect them. For now, it'll remain editable. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 23:37, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
:::Excuse me guys, Ash already have 6 pokemon in his team, exceptions are there but use your common sense. --♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''niz''']]♪♫ 04:44, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
::::I agree with you, just hope there is no release and capture in one episode. Most likely not to happen.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 04:46, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::Ya, i hope so. --♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''niz''']]♪♫ 04:52, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::That doesn't mean he can't capture anymore Pokémon. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 04:54, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::::One word: Krabby!!!!!!!!--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 04:55, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::::I said that exceptions are there. --♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''niz''']]♪♫ 04:56, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::I know I just wanted to say that.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 04:58, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::But when he caught Krabby, he wasn't aware that it would be transferred away.--[[Bulbapedia:Project Custom Sprite|☆]][[User:Tavisource|Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 22:03, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

== ash's dad ==

http://www.serebii.net/anime/pictures/shinou/606ps8.shtml

12th row, 2nd picture.

could someone get this pic and post it? it confirms that his dad is not giovonni, oak, or silver, but an unnamed, never before seen man. {{unsigned|WaterUser}}

:[[Iizō and Kane Iino|Those people]] are from Twinleaf Town and are Dawn's neighbors...not from Pallet Town...--[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 22:51, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
::I believe he's talking about the guy with the Rapidash. That is NOT Ash's father. In fact, that guy looks like he's in his teens. God, why do people always jump to conclusions? This confirms nothing. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 02:40, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

:::Besides, the pictures don't line up the same on all displays. I've recently upgraded my monitor to a flat widescreen (with a new tower to go with it), and I'm currently on a 1300x768 resolution. There isn't even a row 12 in that resolution (only 10 rows of three each). --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 03:27, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

I thin that that man in the picture looks a little like '''[[Silver (anime)|Silver]]''', he is hust a bit younger and has slightly shorter hair and diferent clothes.--'''{{wp|Wikipedia|Wiki}}'''[[User:Tomas|''Tomas'']]09:14, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
:Enough with the speculation. This is now becoming forum content. If you want to discuss about this, take it to the forums. That is not Ash's father. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 18:45, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
Well, we don't know that exactly until it airs.--'''[[wp:Wikipedia|Wiki]]'''[[User:Tomas|''Tomas'']] 15:51, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

== Bottom page template ==

The External Links Template seems to be too big.

Can we put in a box that's say

"There are many template. Click "show".

I forgot the link to do that, we should hide it in a box.

--[[User:Ruixiang95|Ruixiang95]] 06:12, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

== Flying-types ==
Perhaps a good idea for the trivia: All of Ash's Flying-type Pokémon are on their final stage, these include: Pidgeot, Noctowl, Swellow, Staraptor, Gliscor, Charizard and Butterfree. [[User:Bigtukker|Bigtukker]] 08:45, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
:Personally I don't think it's notable. Remember that all types must be treated equally.- the same can be said of his Ground, Bug and Ice types, and If you count Aipom's evolution while it was with Dawn, his Normal types as well. Not to mention that there is too much trivia already. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 08:57, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Ash Ketchum/Archive 4

2009-10-05T15:46:22Z

Tomas: /* Ash's age: A CLEAR EXPLANATION */

<big><big><big>ASH'S AGE IS INDETERMINATE! AS OF EPISODE 1, HE IS 10 AS FAR AS IT'S KNOWN! PLEASE DO NOT POST ABOUT IT!</big></big></big>
== Previous discussions ==
* [[Talk:Ash Ketchum/Archive 1|Archive 1]]
* [[Talk:Ash Ketchum/Archive 2|Archive 2]]
* [[Talk:Ash Ketchum/Archive 3|Archive 3]]

== Trivia ==

In the trivia it says about Ash never catching a Pokemon when he has 6 in his party and then gives many exceptions, hardly a worthy piece of trivia, I would suggest removing it but I am afraid of back-lash from other users, so can anyone give their consensus. [[User:Sailor Earth|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Sailor Earth| of]][[User talk:Sailor Earth| Earth]] 20:27, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
:Krabby was at the beginning, there are 30 of those Tauros and Beedrill went straight to Casey. I think the fact is worth mentioning but I'm not sure how to reword it. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 23:11, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
::If thirty Tauros at once counts as many exceptions... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:59, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

==Ash Sprite==
I made a sprite of Ash: [[Image:Ash_Sprite.png]] I used Lucas (since they are very similar) and changed some features. How is it?--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 20:50, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

I say very good!--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 21:00, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! Kuki, you should talk to my younger brother, [[User:Diamaster|Diamaster]]. Does anyone have anything else for me to make?--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 21:03, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

How about we go through it together? Oh, how about giving [[Mimey]] a broom in its sprite on [[Delia]]'s page?--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 21:05, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

:I'll get to it. Feel free to e-mail me anytime you come with an idea. You are like my manager, or somewhat my boss. This works well.--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 21:07, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Should we start from the beginning?--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 21:14, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

I've just finished [[Mimey|Mimey's]] sprite. I'm ready for the list!--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 21:24, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

: It's good but is there any point of putting that in the Article? --[[User:Force Fire|Force Fire]] 09:37, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
:: Actually, last time we did this to Tyson's Meowth, the Cat got the Boot (Geddit? Geddit? Oh forget it...) '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''10:11 6 Jun 2008'''''
:::I have to agree... the sprites are neat (sort of; I've definitely seen better), but they don't really belong in the articles. Just because a Pokémon dresses differently doesn't mean it's not the same Pokémon. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 05:52, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::::All he was trying to do was give the Pokémon some individuality. I'm not sure I'm for the modified sprites of humans but we should let the Pokémon stay. Especially if they are tweaked just so slightly that it barely makes a difference. Like Ash's Sceptile. You can't say that looked bad. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 06:08, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::I understand that. And I guess the less obtrusive ones are OK (this is all just my opinion, anyway). But don't put "sprite by Taviource" on the pages; that's just advertising, which shouldn't be in the main namespace. It's fine that you put it on the images themselves; that way, people who are interested in the sprites can follow them to you, and people who aren't don't think you're a {{tt|whore|apologies if you find the word offensive}}. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 06:33, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::::::Yeah, that was a little out-of-bounds on his part. Still I think the Pokémon ones are cool.--[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 06:40, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::::I can't say that Sceptile looks bad but I can say that it looks incorrect since it had a different twig to Treecko/Grovyle. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 11:07, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
I'm sorry, but i just dont think that traviource's edits ar good enough.I personally think that they should be put back to normal or if it's allowed, http://pokesho.com/icon.html has really nice personalized sprites.I know there's a copyright rule but if you translate the page it says: Pokemon Icon Collection Freedom to use. Anywway, i dont know, but that was my thought.--Riot464

We want them to b somewhat, actuall mostly based off the games.--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 19:58, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Sweet! Pokemonboy 08:39, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

It looks like you used Red as a scratch, not Lucas. -Metagross72

Remarkable!--adyniz 12:58, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

Yeah it looks like Ash if he were in Pokemon Emerald -Usyflad10

== Sun Stone ==
does anyone know what happened to his sun stone from the bug catching contest? [[User:Mooites|Mooites]] 23:55, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

He used it on a Sunkern in [[EP187]]--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 23:58, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
:Not much of a waste since Misty missed the [[Oddish (Pokémon)|"Water-type"]] she tried to catch in [[EP010]]. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:01, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

== Alternate Sprites ==

Oh, since we're on the subject, let's change the MS sprites too! >.> No, seriously, what difference would it make even if we DID have alternate sprites? The best we could do is {{u|Shiny Noctowl}}, and it's an official sprite. Squirtle appeared mostly without its glasses, thus, GET RID OF THEM. Primape and the belt? Wow! The belt got stuck on him for ten minutes and you already want to put it there??? Seriously, folks, ARE WE USING THE ALTERNATE SPRITES OR WHAT? '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''07:38 7 Jun 2008'''''

: In my opinion, we shouldn't be using these altered sprites. As Optimus35 pointed out, most of these alterations are things that appeared for a few minutes in a few episodes. More importantly, the Bulbapedia is ''not'' a place for fan art. If the artist is trying to showcase their art, the Bulbapedia is not the way to do it. [[User:Trainer-c|Trainer-c]] 12:52, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

:: I concur, sort of. Taivource does seem to be on a "Everyone behold my cool sprites." binge. Kenji-girl seems to like the Treecko-line ones, though (and to be fair, they are good). [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 12:56, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
:::Just because we're an encyclopedia of Pokémon doesn't mean every sprite on every page has to be EXACTLY out of a game, does it? '''[[User:Pachirisulover12|PL]][[User talk:Pachirisulover12|12]]''' 13:00, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::If it was a commonly re-occurring theme, then an alternate sprite singles it out as unique, which could be gathered from what I know about the Treeko and evolutions. [[User:Gywall|Gywall]] 13:01, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

WE ARE USING THE ALTERNATE SPRITES, except for the trainer ones, and I actually might've put the yellow stars on Janina's Onix. And, for example Taisei's Piplup wore the tiara all episode--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 13:05, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

: OH, ARE WE NOW? Thanks for being so open to discussion, Kuki. [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 13:11, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

What's that supposed to mean. And Squirtle's glasses, as leader of the squirtle Squad, he's wearing them all the time probably--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 13:19, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
:''If'' it is a significant part of their character design (eg. Noctowl, Treecko/Grovyle without the flower/Sceptile, maybe Squirtle) it is worth featuring the altered sprites. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 13:30, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Exactly they are not just any ordinary Squirtle, Onix, Piplup, or Dustox, there is a special piece of design that seperates them from the ordinary ones. [[User:Sailor Earth|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Sailor Earth| of]][[User talk:Sailor Earth| Earth]] 17:06, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::Exactly. They each have their own significant and reminds us all about all the good times in the anime.--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 17:10, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Plus, Dustox, Squirtle, Primeape, and Butterfree belong/ed to main characters. And remember how we did an alternate sprite for {{an|May}}'s Venusaur as a Bulbasaur--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 17:16, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::We did?--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 17:19, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Not we, but Bulbapedia as a community. The link is there, hover over Bulbasaur, and voila! PROOF!--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 17:24, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
:For the record, I entirely disagree with the Onix sprite. (She tried cheating one time and then had to wash it off.) But this is Ash's talk page so let's stick to those sprites here. The consensus seems to be to keep the alternate sprites and they don't hurt. Are there any valid reasons to not have them? --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 17:49, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::Also, Grovyle needs to lose the flower and Sceptile's twig needs correcting. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 17:49, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

:::Remember, shortly b4 Grovyle evolved, the flower bloomed? Thus the flower stays!--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 17:53, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

::::It was actually wwhen Meganium used Synthesis--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 17:58, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::But that is the main point against some of the sprites: It was a normal twig for almost the entire time it was on the show. For the character design argument to work, you have to actually show its normal character design. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 18:01, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::::::But what if he changes the twig? Can the sprites stay? '''[[User:Pachirisulover12|PL]][[User talk:Pachirisulover12|12]]''' 18:03, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Yeah, it just needs a little editing. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 18:13, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

::Sceptile can have less attention. But what about Nurse Joy's Chansey with the hat? That also keeps on getting deleted.--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 18:09, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
:::This is not Nurse Joy's page, but that is also a common character design. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 18:13, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::::I fixed Joy's page, and added the Pokémon she gave to Stephanie and her dad in AGO34--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 18:15, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::Alright. Thanks, Fabu-Vinny. Thanks, Kuki....but can I fix the Sceptile sprite?--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 18:29, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Sure, cuz I dunno how--KukiTalk

:This is getting downright ridiculous. What do a few pixels matter? I agree with Squirtle and the Treecko family, but Butterfree with scarf and Primeape with belt? Guys, PLEASE, stop having so many alternate sprites!!!
:And, I thought I removed Grovyle's flower. Please, people. Keep this up and we'll eternally ban you from the archives (and Bulbapedia, I guess...) if you keep reuploading and uploading thesep ics. I know you put much effort into them but...They're putting quite a load on the server. That's why there are 26,570 files in the Archive while we only need 26000. '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''02:16 8 Jun 2008'''''
::I kinda agree, especially because they're low quality sprites. Take it from someone who has been spriting for a long time. They aren't good. tc26 02:20, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

You are totally unfair! The majority of support is for the alternate sprites and then you threaten them with blocking because they don't agree with you. I know we are not the same as Wikipedia but on wiki we have consensus where the majority of support wins, or is this an admin dictatorship. [[User:Sailor Earth|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Sailor Earth| of]][[User talk:Sailor Earth| Earth]] 08:52, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
:You do realise that your 'majority' is completely made out of inexperienced users (Excluding Kuki and PL12, who I consider adequate in MediaWIki skills) who barely know that <nowiki></nowiki> will give you text in Comic Sans. People! In the past year (Let's call it the Jurassic), plenty of things have happened. Several vandal attacks. Several fake vandals (Including this account -anime sweatdrop-). These helped to mature our users. Your 'majority' arrived about the late Cretaceous. You know what would happen if you keep it up? That's right. The {{wp|Cretaceous–Tertiary extinction event}}. Do you want Bulbapedia to overload? Do you want our hard work to fall through the hole? People! If you want to change Bulbapedia's standards, GET YER OWN WIKI!!! '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''06:23 9 Jun 2008'''''
:: Don't be so melodramatic. The community as a whole is keeping a better eye on it than that... [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 11:44, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Kuki is an experienced user???????????????????? [[User:Sailor Earth|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Sailor Earth| of]][[User talk:Sailor Earth| Earth]] 10:03, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Kenji-Girl supports alternate sprites, she is very profesional. [[User:Sailor Earth|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Sailor Earth| of]][[User talk:Sailor Earth| Earth]] 10:04, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

:And your point is? [[User:Crystallucario|~'''Crystal''']][[User talk:Crystallucario|~'''Lucario~''']] 11:21, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

I'd navigated this site before becoming a user--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 14:16, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

My point Crystal, is that earlier the comment was made that only un-experienced users supported these sprites and Kenji-Girl is more profesional than most and has common sense, '''and doesn't jump to conclusions''' which is more than can be said {{tt|for some|Darth Cookie Monster, who I thought was my friend until he started constantly insulting me}} [[User:Sailor Earth|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Sailor Earth| of]][[User talk:Sailor Earth| Earth]] 18:39, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
:I'm an admin and I support some of the sprites...
:But things really need to calm down here. It certainly isn't worth creating a riot over. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 18:58, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
::Thanks and I agree with you now.--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 19:00, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Actually, we should keep the squirtle and butterfree sprites, since that was how they were last seen.--[[User:Starlight the ampharos|Starlight_the_ampharos]] 21:31, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

I concur Ampharos. The squirtle and butterfree sprites should be kept, but not primeape's belt or buneary's vest. We are getting way too far out there..... --[[User:Cat2killer|Catu42]] 22:36, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
:Why is Butterfree more special than Primeape? Also, the argument against the vest has weakened now that Buneary wears it so frequently. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 13:17, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

==That last piece of trivia==

For some reason I can't delete that piece of trivia at he bottom of the list and Ireally need to for one simple reason. Its totally wrong. It can't be a trend of Ash catching a flying type, grass, fire and then water because it happens once! Kanto- bug, flying, grass, fire, water. Thats got bug at the start. Johto- bug, grass, fire, water, flying. Noctowl was caught after cyndaquil and he had heracross. Hoenn- flying, grass, water, fire. Water and fire are the wrong way round. Kanto is a main region and so the battle fronteir arc has only the capture of aipom, a normal tyoe. It can't be a trend if it only happens in 1 region! Because I can't delete it for some reason I implore you to get rid of it. A trend has to happen alot more than once. [[User:TheAlmightyChris|TheAlmightyChris]] 21:55, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

:You can't delete it because Fabu-Vinny protected the page (have a look at the page history). [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 00:34, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. I guessed that was the reason. However that really doesn't stop it being wrong and there [[User:TheAlmightyChris|TheAlmightyChris]] 16:34, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

== Ash dressing up ==

In this article it mentions ash's three times cross dressing and his two time having to dress up as fruit. What it doesn't mention is the number of times he has to dress up as an actual pokemon. I can only remember him being Mr. Mime in 'Mr. Mime Time' and as an Octillery in 'Octillery the Outcast'. Im pretty sure there are a few others, can anyone remember, thnx! I just somehow have feeling there may be a few more beside the one's i have said and the one below {{unsigned|Dragonboy}}
:I remember him dressing up as Seviper to teach Nicolai's Zangoose how to battle with one. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 06:00, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

== Electric Tale of Pikachu - Needed Verification ==

Did ash have a Beedrill in Electric Tale of Pikachu manga? Don't remember it. I think someone spreads fake information. I also don't remember any Mankey traded for a fake map. Can anyone verify these informations? --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 10:43, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

No he did not. However, in the second issue, he caught a Mankey, which he did trade for a map. It wasn't actually fake, just very poorly drawn. [[User:Midnight Celtic|Midnight]][[User talk:Midnight Celtic|Celtic]] 20:36, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

== Agh so close to hitting it... ==

But still under the wondrous 10% of all Pokémon. C'mon, Chimchar, evolve soon! '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:37, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

In the article, it says :
"The most badges Ash has ever gotten in the first thirty-five episodes were five badges in Kanto, which makes sense considering that Kanto was significantly shorter than any other saga (aside from the Orange Island saga and the Battle Frontier saga). In every other region thus far, he has only won two badges in the first thirty-five episodes."
It's wrong : he had 6 badges by EP035, as he won :
Boulder Badge in EP005
Cascade Badge in EP007
Thunder Badge in EP014
Marsh Badge in EP024
Rainbow Badge in EP026
Soul Badge in EP032

== Befriending Movie Pokemon(IMPORTANT) ==

We've discussed this and since May has Manaphy, Max has Jirachi, I think Ash should have Latias and Lucario! Any1 agree?--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 12:36, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
:In none of that discussion has anyone given a decent reason for why the '''list of Pokémon owned by Ash''' should have a section for Pokémon he was simply friendly with. It has to much potential to get out of hand. May's page has had Manaphy removed before and Max is the exception because he doesn't own any Pokémon to begin with. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 18:59, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

:: There should be a befriended part.--[[User:Starlight the ampharos|Starlight_the_ampharos]] 21:36, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
:::No. There should not be a befriended section. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 15:51, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
::::Ash befriends every Pokemon he finds even when it isn't a movie. So no. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 22:01, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::A "'''Pokémon Ash doesn't like'''" section would be more realistic, and that itself certainly wouldn't be worth putting in the article. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 22:52, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

== Matnine Overboard ==
Is it notable that Ash was apparently able to recognize what a Mantine is in "Mantine Overboard" depite having never seen one before? The same thing could be said about Regice in the 8th movie but that could be easily explained; If (off-camera)someone explained Registeel, Regirock, and Regice the only one left was Regice (simple process of elimination). But the Mantine one has me confused. I suppose it's possible Ash saw a Mantine in his past before becoming a trainer. --[[User:Dman dustin|Dman dustin]] 18:27, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Yeah that always happens in the anime. They know Pokemon theyve never mentioned or seen b4. Like James and Carnivine. Whenever they go to a new region Brock already knows all the pokemon and what they evolve into despite never mentioning them in the past. [[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 18:33, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
:Are you two forgetting that Ash saw one in [[EP214]] and another in [[EP256]]? ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 18:34, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

214 is Mantine Overboard, the one Dman Dustin is talking about isnt it? [[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 18:35, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
:Nevermind...That's my fault, (For some reason, I thought he was talking about Steamboat Willies.) ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 18:38, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

::Every time a new batch of Pokémon are created, the anime seems to retcon the fact that they have never existed before. When Gen V Pokémon are revealed, the anime will treat them as if they were there from the beginning. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 18:41, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

:TV, Books, and Pokémon games exist in the pokemon world aswell. Also it's not big brother, things would occur off camera and, chances are, if he did see a Mantine in person, it was being minded by Prof. Oak or something like that.
::No matter how it might look shows never show everything frame-by-frame, and neither do movies. Chances are that Ash could see a lot of Pokémon off-camera. And about Brock, I'd assume that he studies about Pokémon off-camera. Also I have never seen a real-life dragon, but that won't stop me from recognizing one if I ever get the chance of seeing one. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 22:07, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

== 3 of 4 gym leaders thing ==

In the trivia bit it says 3 of the 4 female Gym Leaders have turtle based pokemon like he does. What region are we talking about as there are way more than 4 female Gym Leaders overall. Thankyou for your time. [[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 09:54, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Oh I see, 3 of the 4 gym leaders mentioned in the trivia before. Thankyou for your time. [[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 09:56, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

== Question ==

Do [[Leona]] and [[Nando]] qualify as rivals for Ash? [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 03:44, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
:Nando yes. Leona, no. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 04:43, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

== Hurting a Pokémon ==

I can think of at least two occasions Ash has hurt a Pokémon, Drapion in the Riolu special and Squirtle in EP012 (before he caught it). The Advanced Series/Orange Islands are fuzzy for me, I only remember some of the better episodes, can anyone think of any others? {{unsigned|Aura-Knight}}
:Sign your post please. And why are you talking about the Pokémon he's hurt? Just wondering...[[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 13:25, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
::Also, Aura-Knight, he hurt MEOWTH in EP012, not Squirtle. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 16:41, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

== categorised trivia anyone? ==

maybe an "in universe" and "out of universe" sections to seperate character trivia and behind the scenes trivia. maybe even another section for pokemon owned, there's that many [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 23:08, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

==I hate to open up an old can of worms, but...==
I'm completely against the alternate Primeape and Butterfree sprites. They had the the belt/scarf for less than a whole episode, the episodes they left nonetheless. I think the others are fine since they were frequent parts of their characters (Treecko line's twig, Squirtle's sunglasses somewhat), but the belt and scarf are ridiculous. I'm not going to remove them myself since it's bound to start an edit war, so I'm asking for opinions first. '''~[[User:RR|R]][[User talk:RR|R]]~''' 04:29, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
:What i think it is is that weve got to have the most upto date images. The last time they were seen. So if they came back and didnt have them then the alternate sprites would have to be removed. Its like how on {{an|may}} the pic is of her emerald uniform although she spent loads more time in her Ruby uniform, but the most upto date is Emerald, even if it was only for 3 episodes. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 09:43, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
::And for both, it was a signifigant reason that they left, Brock gave the scarf to Butterfree so it could score a mate, thus triggering its departure. Primeape went away to further its abilities after winning because it only really won by a fluke. Butterfree was seen with the scarf later and Primeape with the belt as well. [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 01:31, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
:::Not quite, Aura Knight. Primeape is seen without the belt in Spurt, which is the most recent appearence of him, which going by Guardian's logic means that the alternate sprite shouldn't be there. '''~[[User:RR|R]][[User talk:RR|R]]~''' 03:53, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
::::I'm going to leave this alone, but Primeape needs to lose <s>some weight</s> that belt. '''[[User:Optimatum|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]]|[[User:Optimatum/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''11:20 27 Aug 2008'''''
:::::Further, the Butterfree in Spurt ''does'' have Brock's scarf. My stance is that it should be a significant part of their character design for it to count. So it looks like Primeape is losing the belt but Butterfree can stay as-is for now. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 13:47, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
::::::i agree with that. thats fair --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 14:00, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

== Manga Clefable ==

While we don't have a befriended section for the anime, we do still list Haunter and Larvitar so precedent can go any way. What is the exact situation for Ash and Clefable in the manga? --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 12:41, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
:{{tt|Well|Responding to clear up any future doubts on this score, and yes, it is an old comment}}, I actually have that section of Electric Tale that I got with the old school VHS tapes. Ash found Clefairy, tried to capture it, met Bill and Oak, then ended up conking it with a Moon Stone in an evolution ceremony. Belongs in the befriended section as Oak and Bill commented that Clefairy taught Ash about something or other. Very metaphorical. --- Aura-Knight 01:24, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

== Protection? ==

Why is this page protected again and why until my birthday (Sept. 30)? --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 22:55, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
:There were multiple reversions over the manga Pokémon list, though none of those involved have actually replied to the above topic... --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 23:32, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
::I'm going to go through with my original plan and unprotect it now. If anyone still wants to put the befriended section in, give your reasons in the section above before editing the article again. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 21:17, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

== Why arent the new sprites for Charmander etc. ==
Why arent the new sprites for Charmander etc used??--[[User:Wowy|Wowy]] 07:13, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
:There aren't any new sprites for Charmander, etc. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 14:48, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
::THere are according to the charmnder page--[[User:Wowy|Wowy]] 06:21, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
:::Then it's just that no one has updated the image yet. [[a:Image:004.png]] is used all over the wiki, not just on this page, you know. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 14:25, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
::::Some butthead uploaded the second frame sprites for a few of the old Pokémon. The Pt sprites for non-Sinnoh dex/non-Gen IV Pokémon did not change. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 17:50, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
:::Who's that nutthead?--[[User:Tavisource/Custom Sprite Project|☆]][[User:Tavisource|Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 22:46, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

{{u|Squirtleman}}--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 22:50, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

== Protect this ==
Please, before the edits ''"OMG Twrtwig evolvezzzz!"'' --[[User:Nick.|Nick.]] 17:07, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

== New thing for trivia ==

Should it be noted that Ash has died at least three times during the series? 1- The episode with the ghost pokemon, "Tower of Terror" I think, the chandelier fell on him and Pikachu. 2- "Mewtwo Strikes Back," he tried to stop the battle between Mew and Mewtwo and was turned to stone by the attacks. 3- "Lucario and the Mystery of Mew," the Tree of Beginning's "immune system" absorbed him. This is worth mentioning![[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 21:16, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
:Not sure if "died" is the right word to use, but I agree, it's worth mentioning. – [[User:RyanCross|'''Ryan'''Cross]] ([[User talk:RyanCross|''talk'']]) 21:17, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
::no, before he was absorbed, Lucario took over. he was fine. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 21:21, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
:::And it was mentioned before, but it was removed a long time ago. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psychic''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]''''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 21:22, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
::::Ash never officially died. He got turned into a ghost temporarily, I don't count that as a death. Turning into stone is not the same thing as dying either. It does sometimes happen in fiction that somebody dies and is recovered back to life by magic, however that did not happen. There was some magic involved when the Pokémon cried at the end of the first movie, but he got turned into stone, that's not the same thing as dying. I have only watched the Lucario movie once, so I'm not sure what to say about that. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 00:48, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::Yeah, technically the tree "removed" him and the humans. It didn't kill them, otherwise Mew wouldn't have been able to revive them, even with the anime physics. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psychic''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]''''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 00:52, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
Um, If you ask me, if you turn into a ghost, you sort of have to be dead. Stone isn't alive, so Ash woldn't be alive if he's turned to stone- hate to tell you, but that's the same as being dead. As for the tree's immune system, that's controversial, just like if Lucario itself died at the end of the movie. I understand that last, but besides that, Ash dies at least a couple of times.[[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 22:40, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
:You make a good point, trolls die when they get turned into stones. (by trolls I mean the creatures, not spammers) Ok, I have to admit, you really managed to outsmart me with your remarks. But I have one question though, if a person freezes, but gets warmed up, would that count as death? [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 22:51, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
Um, not sure, that's more like suspended animation. Unless ice crystals form in the bloodstream.[[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 22:29, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

== Temporary Pokémon ==

In regards to both this and [[Misty]]'s article, where Togepi is below her temporarily borrowed Pokémon, I don't see why Temporary comes before Given away (or in Misty's case Released) Pokémon - I would have thought it neater to group the Pokémon that have actually been officially acquired, as opposed to separating them with Pokémon that have only been briefly utilised (and, presumably, not added to their Pokédex). -[[User:Damien Nightstar|Damien Nightstar]] 12:07, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

==Turtwig evolved!!!!!!!!!!!!!!==
can some one change the turwig to grotle and update turtwigs page cuz it evolved! lol [[User:Ritchie|Ritchie]]
:No it didn't. That's next week's episode. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 14:55, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

::Besides, there's no guarantee that the change will simply be reflecting an evolution. I sense shades of [[EP081|''Pallet Party Panic'']] here...--[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 15:14, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
:::go to serebii.net [[User:Ritchie|Ritchie]]
::::We have that "Until it airs" policy, so we can't edit anything. Anyway, Merrick =/= 100% Confirmed. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 15:18, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

:::::serebii.net jumped the gun on {{TP|May|Glaceon}}, too.

:::::Besides, Bulbapedia's policy is "when it airs" ("it" refers to the episode itself). Not "when it's previewed". As far as we know, Ash's team at the end of the episode could (and probably will) be Pikachu, Staravia, Buizel, Chimchar, and Gliscor with one empty slot (indicating leaving Grotle with the herd). --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 15:22, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
::::::ooo , aight [[User:Ritchie|Ritchie]]
:::::::ASH ISN'T GOING TO RELEASE GROTLE!
:::::::Anyway, we are in exactly the same situation as we were yesterday. The evolution has been confirmed since the Newtype summary was released. Serebii just updated Ash's bio today because we have a picture of it now. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 15:27, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
:Until it airs police. This is not the first time that a preview spoils something important... is it so diffcult to wait a week? We'll have a Grotle, we know. But wait. Just a week. Serebii is Serebii, it has its own rules, and Bulbapedia is Bulbapedia, we just have to wait --[[User:Nick.|Me]], [[User talk:Nick.|myself]] and [[Special:Contributions/Nick.|I]] 15:32, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
::Do I have to remind everyone that Serbii.net is edited by limited amount of people? We cannot guarantee it's correct, sure it has a lot of correct information, but when you see something you know is wrong, you can't just fix it like you can do on this site. This is why I believe "when it airs" policy exists. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 15:51, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
:::wow u guys are soo serious like why would u wait a week if u know its "confirmed" until it airs?? what a f*cked up rule [[User:Ritchie|Ritchie]]
::::Because the world will end if Bulbapedia is ever wrong. Do you want the world to end, no, then wait till it airs. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]]
:::::Seriously, it's only a week away. Is waiting really that hard? You should see some misleading trailers if you haven't already. If preview and a fansite is all the proof you have, then it can't be confirmed, since fansites can be wrong and previews can be misleading. Just wait a one week, patience is important, especially in this case. It's not like you have to wait a month. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 17:18, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
::::::Exactly, I couldnt have put it better TBM, I think we should get a mod to protect the page till next week. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]]
:::::::Confirmation isn't the issue here. Newtype's summaries are reliable. We have the rule because sometimes it is more vague and Turtwig is still a Turtwig at the end of the latest episode.
:::::::But information on Serebii's front page is usually right. The issue there is that it's a secondary source - he has the info because he got it from the same place as us. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 20:32, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
::::::::We knew about Gliscor and Swinub long before they evolved and were captured, you know. We knew Aipom would be evolving in DP060 at the end of DP059. We aren't moving it because the lists are always '''''AS OF THE MOST RECENT JAPANESE EPISODE'''''. The most recent episode was [[DP099]]. Turtwig didn't evolve in that one, ergo, it's Ash's Turtwig. Don't even think of changing it, Ritchie. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 21:01, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

TTE and Fabu, are you agreeing with me and TBM or with Ritchie, we say it shouldnt be on there yet, he says it should. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]]
:"Because the world will end if Bulbapedia is ever wrong. Do you want the world to end, no, then wait till it airs."- then why is there such a thing called previews. it was there for a reason. seeing that will give us the urge to watch it and it also about wraps up what will happen on that episode. clearly the episode preview for the turwig,grotle,torterra episode was on serebii and i dont know why u wouldnt agree. can you give me a reason BESIDES that bulbapedia has to wait ill it airs..can u??? [[User:Ritchie|Ritchie]]
*Well, If you want another reason, I'll give you a reason. Sometime ago, way before [[DP034|Buizel your way out of this]] Aired in Japan, they had a preview showing Ash and Pikachu battling it for almost the entire preview, whileas Dawn and Piplup were seen battling Buizel in only one frame, thus implying at that time that Ash was the one capturing it. So, that's one reason why we have that rule. Actually, now that I think about it, that preview [or rather, Buizel itself] IS the reason why we even have that rule. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 23:31, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
::They are on your side.--[[Bulbapedia:Project Custom Sprite|☆]][[User:Tavisource|Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 23:47, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
:::Ritchie, I already gave you my reasons, and they are not just about policy. Would you mind telling me why you don't agree with that? Really, I'd love to know since it's so important to you that it stays on this page. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 01:05, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

== Name? ==
Do you think it's possible that the English name 'Ash' could have also come from the word 'rash'? Anabel, when translating for Pikachu, did say that sometimes he can act rash, and wasn't it also mentioned in the Pokélantis episode? [[User:Ayla|Ayla]] 22:10, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
:Ash is short for Ashley --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]]
[[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]]
::"Ashley" isn't a reason for the name, unless you think it was chosen with [[EP026]] in mind. His rash attitude is definately an interesting possibility but the examples where it is explicitly mentioned are far later. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 14:51, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
:::Im not trying to argue with you, but Ash is a shortened version for Ashley. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]]
::::Yes it is. But that fact alone isn't the reason 4Kids chose Ash. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 19:01, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::I agree with FabuVinny. And also, GuardianOfEarth, if Ash IS short for Ashley, then why would they pick that name? Is there some kind of reasoning behind that? [[User:Ayla|Ayla]] 19:02, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
::::::I dont know how reliable the source was but I seem to remember it being s'''A'''to'''SH'''i which when the capital letters are rearranged spells Ash. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]]
:::::::Er, Guardian? That source is Bulbapedia. This page, in fact. It says that on the bottom. [[User:Ayla|Ayla]] 22:12, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
:You guys should take it to the forums...to {{u|Ayla}}, that may not be true, as he may have got it from somewhere else, but realized it was posted later on here. [[User:Ht14|''ht'']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 22:14, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
::I think the idea is to add it to the article. The rash thing isn't anything more than trivia, though. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 19:27, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
:::Ash is also short for Ashton... --[[User:Force Fire|Force]] [[User talk:Force Fire|''Fire'']] 07:09, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
Am I the only one who thought it was a connection to the other characters names being based on trees? Oak tree, Ash tree etc [[User:TheAlmightyChris|TheAlmightyChris]] 23:09, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
:I think that Ash's name came from Sacred Ash --[[User:Kamusioso|Kamusioso]]
::Unlikely. That item wasn't introudced until Gen II. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 19:19, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
But Ash saw Ho-oh in the first episode and Sacred Ash is Ho-oh's held item.-Kevin19980609
:Restating what was said above, the Sacred Ash wasn't introduced till GenII. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 21:52, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
::So 4Kids wouldn't have known about it yet. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 21:53, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

== Togepi ==
OK I jest back and now war over Togepi I jest got two words WHO CARES he had egg and Misty got Togepi END OF STORY![[User:XD007DarkRayquaza|XD007DarkRayquaza]] 22:56, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
:Ash found the egg. But the result of "who gets to keep Togepi" was Misty. Ash won the battle but not the prize. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 09:46, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
::No, he won the prize, but gave it to Misty. A'la Beedrill. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 11:53, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
:::He actually captured Beedrill. He didn't give it to Misty, he didn't have a choice. Togepi went to Misty. Besides this was an unoffical contest. As far as it's really known, no one has captured Togepi. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 12:01, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
::::So what he won that match? He didn't even touch Togepi or do anything with it at any time after it hatched. It went directly to Misty by itself. Ash never gave it to her. [[User:Jmath|'''Jm''']][[User talk:Jmath|'''a''']][[Special:Contributions/Jmath|'''th''']] 13:48, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::I think it's Ash who said that he'd give it to Misty. -[[User:Billy4b2004|Billy4b2004]] 03:08, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
::::::Yeah, he said it. But we all saw what happened. Togepi ran to Misty when Ash tried to touch it. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 04:51, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

== Larvitar's egg ==
Why is it different from Donphan's egg? In Donphan case, the word "egg" , the sign "→" and the word "Phanpy" is linked together, why isn't it the same for Larvitar's? And please add a notice on the page if it's protected.-[[User:Billy4b2004|Billy4b2004]] 13:56, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

== Is this Trivial Worth? ==

Ash has captured or had the first poison,grass,fire,flying,water,bug,fighting,normal and electric type pokemon in the pokedex.[[User:Collol|Collol]] 08:58, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
:Why not?--'''[[User:Diby|Di]][[User talk:Diby|b]][[Special:Contributions/Diby|y]]''' 13:11, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
Not really...I think Ash has enough trivia. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 21:21, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
::- on the Normal too, it's either Rattata or Pidgey, and he never captured either. He has, technically, capture the first Pokémon in every dex, which is more notable in my eyes (even though it just means he caught the starters). --- Aura-Knight 03:59, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

== How do I edit his pokemon template? ==

I need to know, since it's been officially confirmed now that Haunter was, indeed, Ash's Pokemon (both the dub and the original version of Haunter vs. Kadabra had Ash and Sabrina saying that Ash "Got" Haunter, implying that it is, officially, his pokemon, and I needed to move Haunter to "Given Away" due to this fact. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 23:55, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
:[[Template:Ash's Pokémon]]--[[Bulbapedia:Project Custom Sprite|☆]][[User:Tavisource|Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 00:03, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
::He never caught it, so it was never his to give away...so it is unofficial. And we've had discussion over this before... majority ruled unofficial. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 00:13, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
:::Even though Ash and Sabrina explicitly used the word "Get" [or the Japanese equivalent] in regards to Ash capturing Haunter in both the original and the dubbed version? Heck, usually when the word capture (or the japanese word get) is used in regards to it, it implies that it's part of the party, and thus an official member. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 00:23, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
::::Capturing means capturing it in a Pokéball. Same with {{AP|Larvitar}}. [[User:Jmath|'''Jm''']][[User talk:Jmath|'''a''']][[Special:Contributions/Jmath|'''th''']] 15:49, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::Then why is [[Misty's Togetic|Togetic/Togepi]] listed as a released pokémon or even an officially captured pokémon? Besides, there are cases where the pokémon is still not yours, even IF you captured it in a Poké Ball. Take [[Brock's Vulpix|Vulpix]], for example. That Pokémon was captured by Brock with a Poké ball, and yet even he said it wasn't even his to begin with. Basically, Haunter is to stay as a given away pokémon, since if even a Gym Leader in both versions referred to Haunter as being Ash's pokémon, having ownership of it, and saying he "got" it, that pretty much confirms that Haunter is officially his pokémon. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 00:51, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

== Well.... ==

Just want to know if this trivia is notable..
:Out of all the Pokémon that Ash owns, the last Pokémon that he has captured in every [[region]] except [[Kanto]] is part of {{DL|evolution|one-evolution families}}, namely {{p|Noctowl}}, {{p|Snorunt}} and {{p|Gligar}}. If the [[Orange Archipelago]] is also included, {{p|Snorlax}} also falls in this category.
[[User:Jmath|'''Jm''']][[User talk:Jmath|'''a''']][[Special:Contributions/Jmath|'''th''']] 21:12, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
:No. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 22:53, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

== I'm going to get decked by Tavisource for this... ==

...But Ash's Squirtle didn't wear the sunglasses that often. Only in a few episodes. If we are not letting Buneary have the vest for the very same reason, then I don't think we should have that sprite for Squirtle. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 20:57, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

:Buneary has only appeared a few times with the vest (although granted, she has only appeared a few times since getting the vest). Squirtle appeared in several major episodes with the glasses, and is assuredly currently wearing them as leader of the Squirtle Squad. [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 21:34, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
::The glasses are a big part of Squirtle's character and far less random than the vest. I personally put the line right there just because the Squirtle is so synonymous with the glasses. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 13:44, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
:::I agree with Vinny. The appearance of Squirtle's sunglasses are directly related to Squirtle's reaction to events. He takes them out when he's taking charge of a situation ([[EP060|Beach Blank-Out Blastoise]]), when his ego feels threatened ([[EP106|The Pokemon Water War]]), or when he wants to appear more threatening ([[Pikachu's Rescue Adventure]]). [[User:Legionaireb|Legionaireb]] 04:58, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

== Reason why I reverted the sprite edit ==

This is what I don't like about the rollback feature...

Anyway, that Chikorita sprite was just unacceptable. Let's use the DPPt version until we find a better one. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 05:37, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

== Champion ==

Why does it say that Ash is a champion? When did he won a pokemon league?(The orange league and the battle frontier are Campionchips, not Leagues).--[[User:Tomas|Tomas]] 12:54, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
:(The '''orange league''' and the battle frontier are Campionchips, not Leagues)
:There you go.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Ho-Oh (Pokémon)|orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Lugia (Pokémon)|ire]] 08:27, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
::It's called "The Orange League". It is a league. Just not a tournament type. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 08:32, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
It says it's a championchip in the article:Ash challenged the following Pokémon '''championships''' as well: List of battles (heavy spoiler)

'''[[Orange League]]''' (Champion)
'''[[Kanto]] [[Battle Frontier]]''' (Champion)
--[[User:Tomas|Tomas]] 13:15, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

== Propensity for Drowning ==

I'm not sure whether this is worth mentioning in the page, but Ash seems to have a knack for either nearly drowning or getting into situations where drowning is a likely possibility. I can think of about 9 instances off the top of my head. A short list includes [[EP016|Pokemon Shipwreck]] (trapped in a capsized ship), [[EP067|the Pi-Kahuna]] (after wiping out in the surf), [[Pokemon Heroes]] (when Oakley tries to stop him from entering the museum), and in [[Pokemon Ranger and the Temple of the Sea]] (when attempting to fix the crystal lattice in the flooded chamber.) Can some others weigh in, please? [[User:Legionaireb|Legionaireb]] 15:47, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
:There was also ''[[Holiday Hi-Jynx]]'' right when Lapras rescued him. And I guess the journey to New Island in Mewtwo Strikes Back. Oh, and the climax of the Second Movie (after Lawrence nearly killed Lugia), as well as when Ash filled Team Rocket's van with Water in the episode where he battled Ritchie. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 17:03, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

:It's just one of his character traits "courage" wich is probably listed in the article (I don't wanna scan the article to see if I'm right). He will do anything to save his allies and the common scenario he gets into is drowning.[[User:Vhayes1992|Vhayes1992]] 02:43, 28 July 2009 that in(UTC)

== Ash's age: A CLEAR EXPLANATION ==

Before you people come up with your opinions on Ash's age, take the time to wonder... Did it ever occur to any of you that this is a cartoon? Let me remind you of another show. You may have heard of it. It's called {{wp|The Simpsons}}. Bart Simpson, a ten year old boy, is one of the main characters. Now the show has been on for like 20 years and yet Bart is still 10. So stop thinking that it's so damn unbelievable that Ash is still ten years old when Bart Simpson has the same case. It's clear in The Simpsons that many years pass by as the kids go to school, get summer vacation, and go to school again, and still remain in the same grade and never age. The mentioning of passing years are mentioned all the time but no one ages.

In a nutshell this is a freakin cartoon people. Therefore they don't have to make the characters age. They may mention that years go by, but that doesn't mean they age. So I don't want any of you coming up with your theories here. Ash is, and will likely stay 10 until the series is over. If you believe otherwise then go to the forums and discuss it. I know that there are animes that age their characters, but Pokémon is NOT one of them. Learn to accept it. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 00:22, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
:Check out ''[[wp:Case Closed|Detective Conan]]''. It's an anime that's been running for longer than Pokémon, constantly references the time of year (with way too many events happing around New Year to make any sense) and yet none of the characters have aged a day.
:[[Aging in the anime]] states our policy on this. It isn't explicitly stated that anyone is any older (and you'd think Ash would mention if it was his birthday in the third Pikachu short) so we go by the only age that is canon. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 15:44, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
Well if the info on Paul's page is correct, paul has been to 3 regoins, while Ash has also been to the orange islands and in kanto again for the battle frontier, which makes it 5, so if paul is realy 11 then ash is at least older than him.--'''{{wp|Wikipedia|Wiki}}'''[[User:Tomas|''Tomas'']] 09:26, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
:... Region count has NOTHING to do with it. Eternal youth. End of discussion. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 18:47, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
Well, on my opinion, traveling through a region on foot takes some time, so if ash and paul are the same age than ash started eralyer than paul and if they started at around the same time, than ash is at least as old as paul or even older.But, it's only my version.--'''[[wp:Wikipedia|Wiki]]'''[[User:Tomas|''Tomas'']] 15:46, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

==Question about voice actor==

I have a question concerning an edit I'd might to do. In the box where the English voice actors names are it says "Sarah Natochenny (PUSA)". Should it be "Sarah Natochenny (TCPi)"? It's no longer PUSA anymore. [[User:Vhayes1992|Vhayes1992]] 23:52, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

I know what you are talking about but ash's voice actor is still same "Sarah Natochenny" and other voice actors (most of them) are same.
--♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''niz''']]♪♫ 06:02, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
:I mean, should we change it from PUSA to TPCi?-- [[User:Vhayes1992|Vhayes1992]] 06:55, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

I think firstly you have to get permission from the administrators.
--♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''niz''']]♪♫ 06:56, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

== Protect ==

I suggest someone protect this page. at least until DP146 (or DP145, i cant remember which) airs. my reson, because of the posibility of ash catching a Gible in this episode. [[User talk: ShinyPikachu|Shiny]][[User:ShinyPikachu|'''Pika''']] 23:28, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
:Not only this but Dawn, Brock, Jessie, and James also because they all have possibilities of getting Gible. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] '''''[[Special:Contributions/Turtwig_A|Contributions]]''''' '''''[[User talk:Turtwig A|Talk]]''''' 23:30, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
::If someone tries to add it to any of the main characters pages, I will protect them. For now, it'll remain editable. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 23:37, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
:::Excuse me guys, Ash already have 6 pokemon in his team, exceptions are there but use your common sense. --♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''niz''']]♪♫ 04:44, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
::::I agree with you, just hope there is no release and capture in one episode. Most likely not to happen.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 04:46, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::Ya, i hope so. --♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''niz''']]♪♫ 04:52, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::That doesn't mean he can't capture anymore Pokémon. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 04:54, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::::One word: Krabby!!!!!!!!--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 04:55, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::::I said that exceptions are there. --♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''niz''']]♪♫ 04:56, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::I know I just wanted to say that.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 04:58, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::But when he caught Krabby, he wasn't aware that it would be transferred away.--[[Bulbapedia:Project Custom Sprite|☆]][[User:Tavisource|Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 22:03, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

== ash's dad ==

http://www.serebii.net/anime/pictures/shinou/606ps8.shtml

12th row, 2nd picture.

could someone get this pic and post it? it confirms that his dad is not giovonni, oak, or silver, but an unnamed, never before seen man. {{unsigned|WaterUser}}

:[[Iizō and Kane Iino|Those people]] are from Twinleaf Town and are Dawn's neighbors...not from Pallet Town...--[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 22:51, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
::I believe he's talking about the guy with the Rapidash. That is NOT Ash's father. In fact, that guy looks like he's in his teens. God, why do people always jump to conclusions? This confirms nothing. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 02:40, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

:::Besides, the pictures don't line up the same on all displays. I've recently upgraded my monitor to a flat widescreen (with a new tower to go with it), and I'm currently on a 1300x768 resolution. There isn't even a row 12 in that resolution (only 10 rows of three each). --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 03:27, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

I thin that that man in the picture looks a little like '''[[Silver (anime)|Silver]]''', he is hust a bit younger and has slightly shorter hair and diferent clothes.--'''{{wp|Wikipedia|Wiki}}'''[[User:Tomas|''Tomas'']]09:14, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
:Enough with the speculation. This is now becoming forum content. If you want to discuss about this, take it to the forums. That is not Ash's father. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 18:45, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

== Bottom page template ==

The External Links Template seems to be too big.

Can we put in a box that's say

"There are many template. Click "show".

I forgot the link to do that, we should hide it in a box.

--[[User:Ruixiang95|Ruixiang95]] 06:12, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

== Flying-types ==
Perhaps a good idea for the trivia: All of Ash's Flying-type Pokémon are on their final stage, these include: Pidgeot, Noctowl, Swellow, Staraptor, Gliscor, Charizard and Butterfree. [[User:Bigtukker|Bigtukker]] 08:45, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
:Personally I don't think it's notable. Remember that all types must be treated equally.- the same can be said of his Ground, Bug and Ice types, and If you count Aipom's evolution while it was with Dawn, his Normal types as well. Not to mention that there is too much trivia already. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 08:57, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

User talk:Tomas

2009-10-04T13:12:05Z

Tomas: /* Signature */

Talk:Ash Ketchum/Archive 4

2009-10-04T09:27:35Z

Tomas: /* Ash's age: A CLEAR EXPLANATION */

<big><big><big>ASH'S AGE IS INDETERMINATE! AS OF EPISODE 1, HE IS 10 AS FAR AS IT'S KNOWN! PLEASE DO NOT POST ABOUT IT!</big></big></big>
== Previous discussions ==
* [[Talk:Ash Ketchum/Archive 1|Archive 1]]
* [[Talk:Ash Ketchum/Archive 2|Archive 2]]
* [[Talk:Ash Ketchum/Archive 3|Archive 3]]

== Trivia ==

In the trivia it says about Ash never catching a Pokemon when he has 6 in his party and then gives many exceptions, hardly a worthy piece of trivia, I would suggest removing it but I am afraid of back-lash from other users, so can anyone give their consensus. [[User:Sailor Earth|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Sailor Earth| of]][[User talk:Sailor Earth| Earth]] 20:27, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
:Krabby was at the beginning, there are 30 of those Tauros and Beedrill went straight to Casey. I think the fact is worth mentioning but I'm not sure how to reword it. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 23:11, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
::If thirty Tauros at once counts as many exceptions... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:59, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

==Ash Sprite==
I made a sprite of Ash: [[Image:Ash_Sprite.png]] I used Lucas (since they are very similar) and changed some features. How is it?--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 20:50, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

I say very good!--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 21:00, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! Kuki, you should talk to my younger brother, [[User:Diamaster|Diamaster]]. Does anyone have anything else for me to make?--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 21:03, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

How about we go through it together? Oh, how about giving [[Mimey]] a broom in its sprite on [[Delia]]'s page?--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 21:05, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

:I'll get to it. Feel free to e-mail me anytime you come with an idea. You are like my manager, or somewhat my boss. This works well.--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 21:07, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Should we start from the beginning?--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 21:14, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

I've just finished [[Mimey|Mimey's]] sprite. I'm ready for the list!--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 21:24, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

: It's good but is there any point of putting that in the Article? --[[User:Force Fire|Force Fire]] 09:37, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
:: Actually, last time we did this to Tyson's Meowth, the Cat got the Boot (Geddit? Geddit? Oh forget it...) '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''10:11 6 Jun 2008'''''
:::I have to agree... the sprites are neat (sort of; I've definitely seen better), but they don't really belong in the articles. Just because a Pokémon dresses differently doesn't mean it's not the same Pokémon. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 05:52, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::::All he was trying to do was give the Pokémon some individuality. I'm not sure I'm for the modified sprites of humans but we should let the Pokémon stay. Especially if they are tweaked just so slightly that it barely makes a difference. Like Ash's Sceptile. You can't say that looked bad. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 06:08, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::I understand that. And I guess the less obtrusive ones are OK (this is all just my opinion, anyway). But don't put "sprite by Taviource" on the pages; that's just advertising, which shouldn't be in the main namespace. It's fine that you put it on the images themselves; that way, people who are interested in the sprites can follow them to you, and people who aren't don't think you're a {{tt|whore|apologies if you find the word offensive}}. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 06:33, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::::::Yeah, that was a little out-of-bounds on his part. Still I think the Pokémon ones are cool.--[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 06:40, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::::I can't say that Sceptile looks bad but I can say that it looks incorrect since it had a different twig to Treecko/Grovyle. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 11:07, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
I'm sorry, but i just dont think that traviource's edits ar good enough.I personally think that they should be put back to normal or if it's allowed, http://pokesho.com/icon.html has really nice personalized sprites.I know there's a copyright rule but if you translate the page it says: Pokemon Icon Collection Freedom to use. Anywway, i dont know, but that was my thought.--Riot464

We want them to b somewhat, actuall mostly based off the games.--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 19:58, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Sweet! Pokemonboy 08:39, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

It looks like you used Red as a scratch, not Lucas. -Metagross72

Remarkable!--adyniz 12:58, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

Yeah it looks like Ash if he were in Pokemon Emerald -Usyflad10

== Sun Stone ==
does anyone know what happened to his sun stone from the bug catching contest? [[User:Mooites|Mooites]] 23:55, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

He used it on a Sunkern in [[EP187]]--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 23:58, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
:Not much of a waste since Misty missed the [[Oddish (Pokémon)|"Water-type"]] she tried to catch in [[EP010]]. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:01, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

== Alternate Sprites ==

Oh, since we're on the subject, let's change the MS sprites too! >.> No, seriously, what difference would it make even if we DID have alternate sprites? The best we could do is {{u|Shiny Noctowl}}, and it's an official sprite. Squirtle appeared mostly without its glasses, thus, GET RID OF THEM. Primape and the belt? Wow! The belt got stuck on him for ten minutes and you already want to put it there??? Seriously, folks, ARE WE USING THE ALTERNATE SPRITES OR WHAT? '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''07:38 7 Jun 2008'''''

: In my opinion, we shouldn't be using these altered sprites. As Optimus35 pointed out, most of these alterations are things that appeared for a few minutes in a few episodes. More importantly, the Bulbapedia is ''not'' a place for fan art. If the artist is trying to showcase their art, the Bulbapedia is not the way to do it. [[User:Trainer-c|Trainer-c]] 12:52, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

:: I concur, sort of. Taivource does seem to be on a "Everyone behold my cool sprites." binge. Kenji-girl seems to like the Treecko-line ones, though (and to be fair, they are good). [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 12:56, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
:::Just because we're an encyclopedia of Pokémon doesn't mean every sprite on every page has to be EXACTLY out of a game, does it? '''[[User:Pachirisulover12|PL]][[User talk:Pachirisulover12|12]]''' 13:00, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::If it was a commonly re-occurring theme, then an alternate sprite singles it out as unique, which could be gathered from what I know about the Treeko and evolutions. [[User:Gywall|Gywall]] 13:01, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

WE ARE USING THE ALTERNATE SPRITES, except for the trainer ones, and I actually might've put the yellow stars on Janina's Onix. And, for example Taisei's Piplup wore the tiara all episode--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 13:05, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

: OH, ARE WE NOW? Thanks for being so open to discussion, Kuki. [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 13:11, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

What's that supposed to mean. And Squirtle's glasses, as leader of the squirtle Squad, he's wearing them all the time probably--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 13:19, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
:''If'' it is a significant part of their character design (eg. Noctowl, Treecko/Grovyle without the flower/Sceptile, maybe Squirtle) it is worth featuring the altered sprites. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 13:30, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Exactly they are not just any ordinary Squirtle, Onix, Piplup, or Dustox, there is a special piece of design that seperates them from the ordinary ones. [[User:Sailor Earth|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Sailor Earth| of]][[User talk:Sailor Earth| Earth]] 17:06, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::Exactly. They each have their own significant and reminds us all about all the good times in the anime.--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 17:10, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Plus, Dustox, Squirtle, Primeape, and Butterfree belong/ed to main characters. And remember how we did an alternate sprite for {{an|May}}'s Venusaur as a Bulbasaur--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 17:16, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::We did?--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 17:19, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Not we, but Bulbapedia as a community. The link is there, hover over Bulbasaur, and voila! PROOF!--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 17:24, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
:For the record, I entirely disagree with the Onix sprite. (She tried cheating one time and then had to wash it off.) But this is Ash's talk page so let's stick to those sprites here. The consensus seems to be to keep the alternate sprites and they don't hurt. Are there any valid reasons to not have them? --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 17:49, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::Also, Grovyle needs to lose the flower and Sceptile's twig needs correcting. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 17:49, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

:::Remember, shortly b4 Grovyle evolved, the flower bloomed? Thus the flower stays!--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 17:53, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

::::It was actually wwhen Meganium used Synthesis--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 17:58, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::But that is the main point against some of the sprites: It was a normal twig for almost the entire time it was on the show. For the character design argument to work, you have to actually show its normal character design. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 18:01, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::::::But what if he changes the twig? Can the sprites stay? '''[[User:Pachirisulover12|PL]][[User talk:Pachirisulover12|12]]''' 18:03, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Yeah, it just needs a little editing. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 18:13, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

::Sceptile can have less attention. But what about Nurse Joy's Chansey with the hat? That also keeps on getting deleted.--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 18:09, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
:::This is not Nurse Joy's page, but that is also a common character design. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 18:13, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::::I fixed Joy's page, and added the Pokémon she gave to Stephanie and her dad in AGO34--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 18:15, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::Alright. Thanks, Fabu-Vinny. Thanks, Kuki....but can I fix the Sceptile sprite?--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 18:29, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Sure, cuz I dunno how--KukiTalk

:This is getting downright ridiculous. What do a few pixels matter? I agree with Squirtle and the Treecko family, but Butterfree with scarf and Primeape with belt? Guys, PLEASE, stop having so many alternate sprites!!!
:And, I thought I removed Grovyle's flower. Please, people. Keep this up and we'll eternally ban you from the archives (and Bulbapedia, I guess...) if you keep reuploading and uploading thesep ics. I know you put much effort into them but...They're putting quite a load on the server. That's why there are 26,570 files in the Archive while we only need 26000. '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''02:16 8 Jun 2008'''''
::I kinda agree, especially because they're low quality sprites. Take it from someone who has been spriting for a long time. They aren't good. tc26 02:20, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

You are totally unfair! The majority of support is for the alternate sprites and then you threaten them with blocking because they don't agree with you. I know we are not the same as Wikipedia but on wiki we have consensus where the majority of support wins, or is this an admin dictatorship. [[User:Sailor Earth|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Sailor Earth| of]][[User talk:Sailor Earth| Earth]] 08:52, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
:You do realise that your 'majority' is completely made out of inexperienced users (Excluding Kuki and PL12, who I consider adequate in MediaWIki skills) who barely know that <nowiki></nowiki> will give you text in Comic Sans. People! In the past year (Let's call it the Jurassic), plenty of things have happened. Several vandal attacks. Several fake vandals (Including this account -anime sweatdrop-). These helped to mature our users. Your 'majority' arrived about the late Cretaceous. You know what would happen if you keep it up? That's right. The {{wp|Cretaceous–Tertiary extinction event}}. Do you want Bulbapedia to overload? Do you want our hard work to fall through the hole? People! If you want to change Bulbapedia's standards, GET YER OWN WIKI!!! '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''06:23 9 Jun 2008'''''
:: Don't be so melodramatic. The community as a whole is keeping a better eye on it than that... [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 11:44, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Kuki is an experienced user???????????????????? [[User:Sailor Earth|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Sailor Earth| of]][[User talk:Sailor Earth| Earth]] 10:03, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Kenji-Girl supports alternate sprites, she is very profesional. [[User:Sailor Earth|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Sailor Earth| of]][[User talk:Sailor Earth| Earth]] 10:04, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

:And your point is? [[User:Crystallucario|~'''Crystal''']][[User talk:Crystallucario|~'''Lucario~''']] 11:21, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

I'd navigated this site before becoming a user--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 14:16, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

My point Crystal, is that earlier the comment was made that only un-experienced users supported these sprites and Kenji-Girl is more profesional than most and has common sense, '''and doesn't jump to conclusions''' which is more than can be said {{tt|for some|Darth Cookie Monster, who I thought was my friend until he started constantly insulting me}} [[User:Sailor Earth|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Sailor Earth| of]][[User talk:Sailor Earth| Earth]] 18:39, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
:I'm an admin and I support some of the sprites...
:But things really need to calm down here. It certainly isn't worth creating a riot over. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 18:58, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
::Thanks and I agree with you now.--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 19:00, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Actually, we should keep the squirtle and butterfree sprites, since that was how they were last seen.--[[User:Starlight the ampharos|Starlight_the_ampharos]] 21:31, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

I concur Ampharos. The squirtle and butterfree sprites should be kept, but not primeape's belt or buneary's vest. We are getting way too far out there..... --[[User:Cat2killer|Catu42]] 22:36, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
:Why is Butterfree more special than Primeape? Also, the argument against the vest has weakened now that Buneary wears it so frequently. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 13:17, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

==That last piece of trivia==

For some reason I can't delete that piece of trivia at he bottom of the list and Ireally need to for one simple reason. Its totally wrong. It can't be a trend of Ash catching a flying type, grass, fire and then water because it happens once! Kanto- bug, flying, grass, fire, water. Thats got bug at the start. Johto- bug, grass, fire, water, flying. Noctowl was caught after cyndaquil and he had heracross. Hoenn- flying, grass, water, fire. Water and fire are the wrong way round. Kanto is a main region and so the battle fronteir arc has only the capture of aipom, a normal tyoe. It can't be a trend if it only happens in 1 region! Because I can't delete it for some reason I implore you to get rid of it. A trend has to happen alot more than once. [[User:TheAlmightyChris|TheAlmightyChris]] 21:55, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

:You can't delete it because Fabu-Vinny protected the page (have a look at the page history). [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 00:34, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. I guessed that was the reason. However that really doesn't stop it being wrong and there [[User:TheAlmightyChris|TheAlmightyChris]] 16:34, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

== Ash dressing up ==

In this article it mentions ash's three times cross dressing and his two time having to dress up as fruit. What it doesn't mention is the number of times he has to dress up as an actual pokemon. I can only remember him being Mr. Mime in 'Mr. Mime Time' and as an Octillery in 'Octillery the Outcast'. Im pretty sure there are a few others, can anyone remember, thnx! I just somehow have feeling there may be a few more beside the one's i have said and the one below {{unsigned|Dragonboy}}
:I remember him dressing up as Seviper to teach Nicolai's Zangoose how to battle with one. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 06:00, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

== Electric Tale of Pikachu - Needed Verification ==

Did ash have a Beedrill in Electric Tale of Pikachu manga? Don't remember it. I think someone spreads fake information. I also don't remember any Mankey traded for a fake map. Can anyone verify these informations? --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 10:43, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

No he did not. However, in the second issue, he caught a Mankey, which he did trade for a map. It wasn't actually fake, just very poorly drawn. [[User:Midnight Celtic|Midnight]][[User talk:Midnight Celtic|Celtic]] 20:36, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

== Agh so close to hitting it... ==

But still under the wondrous 10% of all Pokémon. C'mon, Chimchar, evolve soon! '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:37, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

In the article, it says :
"The most badges Ash has ever gotten in the first thirty-five episodes were five badges in Kanto, which makes sense considering that Kanto was significantly shorter than any other saga (aside from the Orange Island saga and the Battle Frontier saga). In every other region thus far, he has only won two badges in the first thirty-five episodes."
It's wrong : he had 6 badges by EP035, as he won :
Boulder Badge in EP005
Cascade Badge in EP007
Thunder Badge in EP014
Marsh Badge in EP024
Rainbow Badge in EP026
Soul Badge in EP032

== Befriending Movie Pokemon(IMPORTANT) ==

We've discussed this and since May has Manaphy, Max has Jirachi, I think Ash should have Latias and Lucario! Any1 agree?--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 12:36, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
:In none of that discussion has anyone given a decent reason for why the '''list of Pokémon owned by Ash''' should have a section for Pokémon he was simply friendly with. It has to much potential to get out of hand. May's page has had Manaphy removed before and Max is the exception because he doesn't own any Pokémon to begin with. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 18:59, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

:: There should be a befriended part.--[[User:Starlight the ampharos|Starlight_the_ampharos]] 21:36, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
:::No. There should not be a befriended section. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 15:51, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
::::Ash befriends every Pokemon he finds even when it isn't a movie. So no. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 22:01, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::A "'''Pokémon Ash doesn't like'''" section would be more realistic, and that itself certainly wouldn't be worth putting in the article. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 22:52, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

== Matnine Overboard ==
Is it notable that Ash was apparently able to recognize what a Mantine is in "Mantine Overboard" depite having never seen one before? The same thing could be said about Regice in the 8th movie but that could be easily explained; If (off-camera)someone explained Registeel, Regirock, and Regice the only one left was Regice (simple process of elimination). But the Mantine one has me confused. I suppose it's possible Ash saw a Mantine in his past before becoming a trainer. --[[User:Dman dustin|Dman dustin]] 18:27, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Yeah that always happens in the anime. They know Pokemon theyve never mentioned or seen b4. Like James and Carnivine. Whenever they go to a new region Brock already knows all the pokemon and what they evolve into despite never mentioning them in the past. [[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 18:33, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
:Are you two forgetting that Ash saw one in [[EP214]] and another in [[EP256]]? ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 18:34, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

214 is Mantine Overboard, the one Dman Dustin is talking about isnt it? [[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 18:35, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
:Nevermind...That's my fault, (For some reason, I thought he was talking about Steamboat Willies.) ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 18:38, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

::Every time a new batch of Pokémon are created, the anime seems to retcon the fact that they have never existed before. When Gen V Pokémon are revealed, the anime will treat them as if they were there from the beginning. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 18:41, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

:TV, Books, and Pokémon games exist in the pokemon world aswell. Also it's not big brother, things would occur off camera and, chances are, if he did see a Mantine in person, it was being minded by Prof. Oak or something like that.
::No matter how it might look shows never show everything frame-by-frame, and neither do movies. Chances are that Ash could see a lot of Pokémon off-camera. And about Brock, I'd assume that he studies about Pokémon off-camera. Also I have never seen a real-life dragon, but that won't stop me from recognizing one if I ever get the chance of seeing one. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 22:07, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

== 3 of 4 gym leaders thing ==

In the trivia bit it says 3 of the 4 female Gym Leaders have turtle based pokemon like he does. What region are we talking about as there are way more than 4 female Gym Leaders overall. Thankyou for your time. [[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 09:54, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Oh I see, 3 of the 4 gym leaders mentioned in the trivia before. Thankyou for your time. [[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 09:56, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

== Question ==

Do [[Leona]] and [[Nando]] qualify as rivals for Ash? [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 03:44, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
:Nando yes. Leona, no. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 04:43, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

== Hurting a Pokémon ==

I can think of at least two occasions Ash has hurt a Pokémon, Drapion in the Riolu special and Squirtle in EP012 (before he caught it). The Advanced Series/Orange Islands are fuzzy for me, I only remember some of the better episodes, can anyone think of any others? {{unsigned|Aura-Knight}}
:Sign your post please. And why are you talking about the Pokémon he's hurt? Just wondering...[[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 13:25, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
::Also, Aura-Knight, he hurt MEOWTH in EP012, not Squirtle. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 16:41, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

== categorised trivia anyone? ==

maybe an "in universe" and "out of universe" sections to seperate character trivia and behind the scenes trivia. maybe even another section for pokemon owned, there's that many [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 23:08, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

==I hate to open up an old can of worms, but...==
I'm completely against the alternate Primeape and Butterfree sprites. They had the the belt/scarf for less than a whole episode, the episodes they left nonetheless. I think the others are fine since they were frequent parts of their characters (Treecko line's twig, Squirtle's sunglasses somewhat), but the belt and scarf are ridiculous. I'm not going to remove them myself since it's bound to start an edit war, so I'm asking for opinions first. '''~[[User:RR|R]][[User talk:RR|R]]~''' 04:29, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
:What i think it is is that weve got to have the most upto date images. The last time they were seen. So if they came back and didnt have them then the alternate sprites would have to be removed. Its like how on {{an|may}} the pic is of her emerald uniform although she spent loads more time in her Ruby uniform, but the most upto date is Emerald, even if it was only for 3 episodes. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 09:43, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
::And for both, it was a signifigant reason that they left, Brock gave the scarf to Butterfree so it could score a mate, thus triggering its departure. Primeape went away to further its abilities after winning because it only really won by a fluke. Butterfree was seen with the scarf later and Primeape with the belt as well. [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 01:31, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
:::Not quite, Aura Knight. Primeape is seen without the belt in Spurt, which is the most recent appearence of him, which going by Guardian's logic means that the alternate sprite shouldn't be there. '''~[[User:RR|R]][[User talk:RR|R]]~''' 03:53, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
::::I'm going to leave this alone, but Primeape needs to lose <s>some weight</s> that belt. '''[[User:Optimatum|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]]|[[User:Optimatum/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''11:20 27 Aug 2008'''''
:::::Further, the Butterfree in Spurt ''does'' have Brock's scarf. My stance is that it should be a significant part of their character design for it to count. So it looks like Primeape is losing the belt but Butterfree can stay as-is for now. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 13:47, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
::::::i agree with that. thats fair --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 14:00, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

== Manga Clefable ==

While we don't have a befriended section for the anime, we do still list Haunter and Larvitar so precedent can go any way. What is the exact situation for Ash and Clefable in the manga? --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 12:41, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
:{{tt|Well|Responding to clear up any future doubts on this score, and yes, it is an old comment}}, I actually have that section of Electric Tale that I got with the old school VHS tapes. Ash found Clefairy, tried to capture it, met Bill and Oak, then ended up conking it with a Moon Stone in an evolution ceremony. Belongs in the befriended section as Oak and Bill commented that Clefairy taught Ash about something or other. Very metaphorical. --- Aura-Knight 01:24, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

== Protection? ==

Why is this page protected again and why until my birthday (Sept. 30)? --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 22:55, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
:There were multiple reversions over the manga Pokémon list, though none of those involved have actually replied to the above topic... --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 23:32, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
::I'm going to go through with my original plan and unprotect it now. If anyone still wants to put the befriended section in, give your reasons in the section above before editing the article again. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 21:17, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

== Why arent the new sprites for Charmander etc. ==
Why arent the new sprites for Charmander etc used??--[[User:Wowy|Wowy]] 07:13, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
:There aren't any new sprites for Charmander, etc. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 14:48, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
::THere are according to the charmnder page--[[User:Wowy|Wowy]] 06:21, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
:::Then it's just that no one has updated the image yet. [[a:Image:004.png]] is used all over the wiki, not just on this page, you know. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 14:25, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
::::Some butthead uploaded the second frame sprites for a few of the old Pokémon. The Pt sprites for non-Sinnoh dex/non-Gen IV Pokémon did not change. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 17:50, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
:::Who's that nutthead?--[[User:Tavisource/Custom Sprite Project|☆]][[User:Tavisource|Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 22:46, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

{{u|Squirtleman}}--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 22:50, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

== Protect this ==
Please, before the edits ''"OMG Twrtwig evolvezzzz!"'' --[[User:Nick.|Nick.]] 17:07, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

== New thing for trivia ==

Should it be noted that Ash has died at least three times during the series? 1- The episode with the ghost pokemon, "Tower of Terror" I think, the chandelier fell on him and Pikachu. 2- "Mewtwo Strikes Back," he tried to stop the battle between Mew and Mewtwo and was turned to stone by the attacks. 3- "Lucario and the Mystery of Mew," the Tree of Beginning's "immune system" absorbed him. This is worth mentioning![[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 21:16, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
:Not sure if "died" is the right word to use, but I agree, it's worth mentioning. – [[User:RyanCross|'''Ryan'''Cross]] ([[User talk:RyanCross|''talk'']]) 21:17, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
::no, before he was absorbed, Lucario took over. he was fine. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 21:21, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
:::And it was mentioned before, but it was removed a long time ago. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psychic''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]''''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 21:22, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
::::Ash never officially died. He got turned into a ghost temporarily, I don't count that as a death. Turning into stone is not the same thing as dying either. It does sometimes happen in fiction that somebody dies and is recovered back to life by magic, however that did not happen. There was some magic involved when the Pokémon cried at the end of the first movie, but he got turned into stone, that's not the same thing as dying. I have only watched the Lucario movie once, so I'm not sure what to say about that. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 00:48, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::Yeah, technically the tree "removed" him and the humans. It didn't kill them, otherwise Mew wouldn't have been able to revive them, even with the anime physics. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psychic''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]''''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 00:52, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
Um, If you ask me, if you turn into a ghost, you sort of have to be dead. Stone isn't alive, so Ash woldn't be alive if he's turned to stone- hate to tell you, but that's the same as being dead. As for the tree's immune system, that's controversial, just like if Lucario itself died at the end of the movie. I understand that last, but besides that, Ash dies at least a couple of times.[[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 22:40, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
:You make a good point, trolls die when they get turned into stones. (by trolls I mean the creatures, not spammers) Ok, I have to admit, you really managed to outsmart me with your remarks. But I have one question though, if a person freezes, but gets warmed up, would that count as death? [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 22:51, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
Um, not sure, that's more like suspended animation. Unless ice crystals form in the bloodstream.[[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 22:29, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

== Temporary Pokémon ==

In regards to both this and [[Misty]]'s article, where Togepi is below her temporarily borrowed Pokémon, I don't see why Temporary comes before Given away (or in Misty's case Released) Pokémon - I would have thought it neater to group the Pokémon that have actually been officially acquired, as opposed to separating them with Pokémon that have only been briefly utilised (and, presumably, not added to their Pokédex). -[[User:Damien Nightstar|Damien Nightstar]] 12:07, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

==Turtwig evolved!!!!!!!!!!!!!!==
can some one change the turwig to grotle and update turtwigs page cuz it evolved! lol [[User:Ritchie|Ritchie]]
:No it didn't. That's next week's episode. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 14:55, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

::Besides, there's no guarantee that the change will simply be reflecting an evolution. I sense shades of [[EP081|''Pallet Party Panic'']] here...--[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 15:14, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
:::go to serebii.net [[User:Ritchie|Ritchie]]
::::We have that "Until it airs" policy, so we can't edit anything. Anyway, Merrick =/= 100% Confirmed. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 15:18, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

:::::serebii.net jumped the gun on {{TP|May|Glaceon}}, too.

:::::Besides, Bulbapedia's policy is "when it airs" ("it" refers to the episode itself). Not "when it's previewed". As far as we know, Ash's team at the end of the episode could (and probably will) be Pikachu, Staravia, Buizel, Chimchar, and Gliscor with one empty slot (indicating leaving Grotle with the herd). --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 15:22, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
::::::ooo , aight [[User:Ritchie|Ritchie]]
:::::::ASH ISN'T GOING TO RELEASE GROTLE!
:::::::Anyway, we are in exactly the same situation as we were yesterday. The evolution has been confirmed since the Newtype summary was released. Serebii just updated Ash's bio today because we have a picture of it now. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 15:27, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
:Until it airs police. This is not the first time that a preview spoils something important... is it so diffcult to wait a week? We'll have a Grotle, we know. But wait. Just a week. Serebii is Serebii, it has its own rules, and Bulbapedia is Bulbapedia, we just have to wait --[[User:Nick.|Me]], [[User talk:Nick.|myself]] and [[Special:Contributions/Nick.|I]] 15:32, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
::Do I have to remind everyone that Serbii.net is edited by limited amount of people? We cannot guarantee it's correct, sure it has a lot of correct information, but when you see something you know is wrong, you can't just fix it like you can do on this site. This is why I believe "when it airs" policy exists. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 15:51, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
:::wow u guys are soo serious like why would u wait a week if u know its "confirmed" until it airs?? what a f*cked up rule [[User:Ritchie|Ritchie]]
::::Because the world will end if Bulbapedia is ever wrong. Do you want the world to end, no, then wait till it airs. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]]
:::::Seriously, it's only a week away. Is waiting really that hard? You should see some misleading trailers if you haven't already. If preview and a fansite is all the proof you have, then it can't be confirmed, since fansites can be wrong and previews can be misleading. Just wait a one week, patience is important, especially in this case. It's not like you have to wait a month. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 17:18, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
::::::Exactly, I couldnt have put it better TBM, I think we should get a mod to protect the page till next week. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]]
:::::::Confirmation isn't the issue here. Newtype's summaries are reliable. We have the rule because sometimes it is more vague and Turtwig is still a Turtwig at the end of the latest episode.
:::::::But information on Serebii's front page is usually right. The issue there is that it's a secondary source - he has the info because he got it from the same place as us. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 20:32, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
::::::::We knew about Gliscor and Swinub long before they evolved and were captured, you know. We knew Aipom would be evolving in DP060 at the end of DP059. We aren't moving it because the lists are always '''''AS OF THE MOST RECENT JAPANESE EPISODE'''''. The most recent episode was [[DP099]]. Turtwig didn't evolve in that one, ergo, it's Ash's Turtwig. Don't even think of changing it, Ritchie. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 21:01, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

TTE and Fabu, are you agreeing with me and TBM or with Ritchie, we say it shouldnt be on there yet, he says it should. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]]
:"Because the world will end if Bulbapedia is ever wrong. Do you want the world to end, no, then wait till it airs."- then why is there such a thing called previews. it was there for a reason. seeing that will give us the urge to watch it and it also about wraps up what will happen on that episode. clearly the episode preview for the turwig,grotle,torterra episode was on serebii and i dont know why u wouldnt agree. can you give me a reason BESIDES that bulbapedia has to wait ill it airs..can u??? [[User:Ritchie|Ritchie]]
*Well, If you want another reason, I'll give you a reason. Sometime ago, way before [[DP034|Buizel your way out of this]] Aired in Japan, they had a preview showing Ash and Pikachu battling it for almost the entire preview, whileas Dawn and Piplup were seen battling Buizel in only one frame, thus implying at that time that Ash was the one capturing it. So, that's one reason why we have that rule. Actually, now that I think about it, that preview [or rather, Buizel itself] IS the reason why we even have that rule. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 23:31, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
::They are on your side.--[[Bulbapedia:Project Custom Sprite|☆]][[User:Tavisource|Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 23:47, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
:::Ritchie, I already gave you my reasons, and they are not just about policy. Would you mind telling me why you don't agree with that? Really, I'd love to know since it's so important to you that it stays on this page. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 01:05, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

== Name? ==
Do you think it's possible that the English name 'Ash' could have also come from the word 'rash'? Anabel, when translating for Pikachu, did say that sometimes he can act rash, and wasn't it also mentioned in the Pokélantis episode? [[User:Ayla|Ayla]] 22:10, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
:Ash is short for Ashley --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]]
[[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]]
::"Ashley" isn't a reason for the name, unless you think it was chosen with [[EP026]] in mind. His rash attitude is definately an interesting possibility but the examples where it is explicitly mentioned are far later. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 14:51, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
:::Im not trying to argue with you, but Ash is a shortened version for Ashley. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]]
::::Yes it is. But that fact alone isn't the reason 4Kids chose Ash. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 19:01, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::I agree with FabuVinny. And also, GuardianOfEarth, if Ash IS short for Ashley, then why would they pick that name? Is there some kind of reasoning behind that? [[User:Ayla|Ayla]] 19:02, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
::::::I dont know how reliable the source was but I seem to remember it being s'''A'''to'''SH'''i which when the capital letters are rearranged spells Ash. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]]
:::::::Er, Guardian? That source is Bulbapedia. This page, in fact. It says that on the bottom. [[User:Ayla|Ayla]] 22:12, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
:You guys should take it to the forums...to {{u|Ayla}}, that may not be true, as he may have got it from somewhere else, but realized it was posted later on here. [[User:Ht14|''ht'']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 22:14, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
::I think the idea is to add it to the article. The rash thing isn't anything more than trivia, though. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 19:27, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
:::Ash is also short for Ashton... --[[User:Force Fire|Force]] [[User talk:Force Fire|''Fire'']] 07:09, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
Am I the only one who thought it was a connection to the other characters names being based on trees? Oak tree, Ash tree etc [[User:TheAlmightyChris|TheAlmightyChris]] 23:09, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
:I think that Ash's name came from Sacred Ash --[[User:Kamusioso|Kamusioso]]
::Unlikely. That item wasn't introudced until Gen II. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 19:19, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
But Ash saw Ho-oh in the first episode and Sacred Ash is Ho-oh's held item.-Kevin19980609
:Restating what was said above, the Sacred Ash wasn't introduced till GenII. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 21:52, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
::So 4Kids wouldn't have known about it yet. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 21:53, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

== Togepi ==
OK I jest back and now war over Togepi I jest got two words WHO CARES he had egg and Misty got Togepi END OF STORY![[User:XD007DarkRayquaza|XD007DarkRayquaza]] 22:56, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
:Ash found the egg. But the result of "who gets to keep Togepi" was Misty. Ash won the battle but not the prize. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 09:46, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
::No, he won the prize, but gave it to Misty. A'la Beedrill. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 11:53, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
:::He actually captured Beedrill. He didn't give it to Misty, he didn't have a choice. Togepi went to Misty. Besides this was an unoffical contest. As far as it's really known, no one has captured Togepi. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 12:01, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
::::So what he won that match? He didn't even touch Togepi or do anything with it at any time after it hatched. It went directly to Misty by itself. Ash never gave it to her. [[User:Jmath|'''Jm''']][[User talk:Jmath|'''a''']][[Special:Contributions/Jmath|'''th''']] 13:48, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::I think it's Ash who said that he'd give it to Misty. -[[User:Billy4b2004|Billy4b2004]] 03:08, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
::::::Yeah, he said it. But we all saw what happened. Togepi ran to Misty when Ash tried to touch it. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 04:51, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

== Larvitar's egg ==
Why is it different from Donphan's egg? In Donphan case, the word "egg" , the sign "→" and the word "Phanpy" is linked together, why isn't it the same for Larvitar's? And please add a notice on the page if it's protected.-[[User:Billy4b2004|Billy4b2004]] 13:56, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

== Is this Trivial Worth? ==

Ash has captured or had the first poison,grass,fire,flying,water,bug,fighting,normal and electric type pokemon in the pokedex.[[User:Collol|Collol]] 08:58, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
:Why not?--'''[[User:Diby|Di]][[User talk:Diby|b]][[Special:Contributions/Diby|y]]''' 13:11, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
Not really...I think Ash has enough trivia. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 21:21, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
::- on the Normal too, it's either Rattata or Pidgey, and he never captured either. He has, technically, capture the first Pokémon in every dex, which is more notable in my eyes (even though it just means he caught the starters). --- Aura-Knight 03:59, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

== How do I edit his pokemon template? ==

I need to know, since it's been officially confirmed now that Haunter was, indeed, Ash's Pokemon (both the dub and the original version of Haunter vs. Kadabra had Ash and Sabrina saying that Ash "Got" Haunter, implying that it is, officially, his pokemon, and I needed to move Haunter to "Given Away" due to this fact. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 23:55, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
:[[Template:Ash's Pokémon]]--[[Bulbapedia:Project Custom Sprite|☆]][[User:Tavisource|Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 00:03, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
::He never caught it, so it was never his to give away...so it is unofficial. And we've had discussion over this before... majority ruled unofficial. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 00:13, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
:::Even though Ash and Sabrina explicitly used the word "Get" [or the Japanese equivalent] in regards to Ash capturing Haunter in both the original and the dubbed version? Heck, usually when the word capture (or the japanese word get) is used in regards to it, it implies that it's part of the party, and thus an official member. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 00:23, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
::::Capturing means capturing it in a Pokéball. Same with {{AP|Larvitar}}. [[User:Jmath|'''Jm''']][[User talk:Jmath|'''a''']][[Special:Contributions/Jmath|'''th''']] 15:49, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::Then why is [[Misty's Togetic|Togetic/Togepi]] listed as a released pokémon or even an officially captured pokémon? Besides, there are cases where the pokémon is still not yours, even IF you captured it in a Poké Ball. Take [[Brock's Vulpix|Vulpix]], for example. That Pokémon was captured by Brock with a Poké ball, and yet even he said it wasn't even his to begin with. Basically, Haunter is to stay as a given away pokémon, since if even a Gym Leader in both versions referred to Haunter as being Ash's pokémon, having ownership of it, and saying he "got" it, that pretty much confirms that Haunter is officially his pokémon. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 00:51, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

== Well.... ==

Just want to know if this trivia is notable..
:Out of all the Pokémon that Ash owns, the last Pokémon that he has captured in every [[region]] except [[Kanto]] is part of {{DL|evolution|one-evolution families}}, namely {{p|Noctowl}}, {{p|Snorunt}} and {{p|Gligar}}. If the [[Orange Archipelago]] is also included, {{p|Snorlax}} also falls in this category.
[[User:Jmath|'''Jm''']][[User talk:Jmath|'''a''']][[Special:Contributions/Jmath|'''th''']] 21:12, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
:No. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 22:53, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

== I'm going to get decked by Tavisource for this... ==

...But Ash's Squirtle didn't wear the sunglasses that often. Only in a few episodes. If we are not letting Buneary have the vest for the very same reason, then I don't think we should have that sprite for Squirtle. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 20:57, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

:Buneary has only appeared a few times with the vest (although granted, she has only appeared a few times since getting the vest). Squirtle appeared in several major episodes with the glasses, and is assuredly currently wearing them as leader of the Squirtle Squad. [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 21:34, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
::The glasses are a big part of Squirtle's character and far less random than the vest. I personally put the line right there just because the Squirtle is so synonymous with the glasses. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 13:44, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
:::I agree with Vinny. The appearance of Squirtle's sunglasses are directly related to Squirtle's reaction to events. He takes them out when he's taking charge of a situation ([[EP060|Beach Blank-Out Blastoise]]), when his ego feels threatened ([[EP106|The Pokemon Water War]]), or when he wants to appear more threatening ([[Pikachu's Rescue Adventure]]). [[User:Legionaireb|Legionaireb]] 04:58, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

== Reason why I reverted the sprite edit ==

This is what I don't like about the rollback feature...

Anyway, that Chikorita sprite was just unacceptable. Let's use the DPPt version until we find a better one. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 05:37, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

== Champion ==

Why does it say that Ash is a champion? When did he won a pokemon league?(The orange league and the battle frontier are Campionchips, not Leagues).--[[User:Tomas|Tomas]] 12:54, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
:(The '''orange league''' and the battle frontier are Campionchips, not Leagues)
:There you go.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Ho-Oh (Pokémon)|orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Lugia (Pokémon)|ire]] 08:27, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
::It's called "The Orange League". It is a league. Just not a tournament type. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 08:32, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
It says it's a championchip in the article:Ash challenged the following Pokémon '''championships''' as well: List of battles (heavy spoiler)

'''[[Orange League]]''' (Champion)
'''[[Kanto]] [[Battle Frontier]]''' (Champion)
--[[User:Tomas|Tomas]] 13:15, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

== Propensity for Drowning ==

I'm not sure whether this is worth mentioning in the page, but Ash seems to have a knack for either nearly drowning or getting into situations where drowning is a likely possibility. I can think of about 9 instances off the top of my head. A short list includes [[EP016|Pokemon Shipwreck]] (trapped in a capsized ship), [[EP067|the Pi-Kahuna]] (after wiping out in the surf), [[Pokemon Heroes]] (when Oakley tries to stop him from entering the museum), and in [[Pokemon Ranger and the Temple of the Sea]] (when attempting to fix the crystal lattice in the flooded chamber.) Can some others weigh in, please? [[User:Legionaireb|Legionaireb]] 15:47, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
:There was also ''[[Holiday Hi-Jynx]]'' right when Lapras rescued him. And I guess the journey to New Island in Mewtwo Strikes Back. Oh, and the climax of the Second Movie (after Lawrence nearly killed Lugia), as well as when Ash filled Team Rocket's van with Water in the episode where he battled Ritchie. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 17:03, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

:It's just one of his character traits "courage" wich is probably listed in the article (I don't wanna scan the article to see if I'm right). He will do anything to save his allies and the common scenario he gets into is drowning.[[User:Vhayes1992|Vhayes1992]] 02:43, 28 July 2009 that in(UTC)

== Ash's age: A CLEAR EXPLANATION ==

Before you people come up with your opinions on Ash's age, take the time to wonder... Did it ever occur to any of you that this is a cartoon? Let me remind you of another show. You may have heard of it. It's called {{wp|The Simpsons}}. Bart Simpson, a ten year old boy, is one of the main characters. Now the show has been on for like 20 years and yet Bart is still 10. So stop thinking that it's so damn unbelievable that Ash is still ten years old when Bart Simpson has the same case. It's clear in The Simpsons that many years pass by as the kids go to school, get summer vacation, and go to school again, and still remain in the same grade and never age. The mentioning of passing years are mentioned all the time but no one ages.

In a nutshell this is a freakin cartoon people. Therefore they don't have to make the characters age. They may mention that years go by, but that doesn't mean they age. So I don't want any of you coming up with your theories here. Ash is, and will likely stay 10 until the series is over. If you believe otherwise then go to the forums and discuss it. I know that there are animes that age their characters, but Pokémon is NOT one of them. Learn to accept it. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 00:22, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
:Check out ''[[wp:Case Closed|Detective Conan]]''. It's an anime that's been running for longer than Pokémon, constantly references the time of year (with way too many events happing around New Year to make any sense) and yet none of the characters have aged a day.
:[[Aging in the anime]] states our policy on this. It isn't explicitly stated that anyone is any older (and you'd think Ash would mention if it was his birthday in the third Pikachu short) so we go by the only age that is canon. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 15:44, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
Well if the info on Paul's page is correct, paul has been to 3 regoins, while Ash has also been to the orange islands and in kanto again for the battle frontier, so if paul is realy 11 then ash is at least older than him.--'''{{wp|Wikipedia|Wiki}}'''[[User:Tomas|''Tomas'']] 09:26, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

==Question about voice actor==

I have a question concerning an edit I'd might to do. In the box where the English voice actors names are it says "Sarah Natochenny (PUSA)". Should it be "Sarah Natochenny (TCPi)"? It's no longer PUSA anymore. [[User:Vhayes1992|Vhayes1992]] 23:52, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

I know what you are talking about but ash's voice actor is still same "Sarah Natochenny" and other voice actors (most of them) are same.
--♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''niz''']]♪♫ 06:02, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
:I mean, should we change it from PUSA to TPCi?-- [[User:Vhayes1992|Vhayes1992]] 06:55, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

I think firstly you have to get permission from the administrators.
--♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''niz''']]♪♫ 06:56, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

== Protect ==

I suggest someone protect this page. at least until DP146 (or DP145, i cant remember which) airs. my reson, because of the posibility of ash catching a Gible in this episode. [[User talk: ShinyPikachu|Shiny]][[User:ShinyPikachu|'''Pika''']] 23:28, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
:Not only this but Dawn, Brock, Jessie, and James also because they all have possibilities of getting Gible. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] '''''[[Special:Contributions/Turtwig_A|Contributions]]''''' '''''[[User talk:Turtwig A|Talk]]''''' 23:30, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
::If someone tries to add it to any of the main characters pages, I will protect them. For now, it'll remain editable. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 23:37, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
:::Excuse me guys, Ash already have 6 pokemon in his team, exceptions are there but use your common sense. --♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''niz''']]♪♫ 04:44, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
::::I agree with you, just hope there is no release and capture in one episode. Most likely not to happen.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 04:46, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::Ya, i hope so. --♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''niz''']]♪♫ 04:52, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::That doesn't mean he can't capture anymore Pokémon. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 04:54, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::::One word: Krabby!!!!!!!!--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 04:55, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::::I said that exceptions are there. --♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''niz''']]♪♫ 04:56, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::I know I just wanted to say that.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 04:58, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::But when he caught Krabby, he wasn't aware that it would be transferred away.--[[Bulbapedia:Project Custom Sprite|☆]][[User:Tavisource|Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 22:03, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

== ash's dad ==

http://www.serebii.net/anime/pictures/shinou/606ps8.shtml

12th row, 2nd picture.

could someone get this pic and post it? it confirms that his dad is not giovonni, oak, or silver, but an unnamed, never before seen man. {{unsigned|WaterUser}}

:[[Iizō and Kane Iino|Those people]] are from Twinleaf Town and are Dawn's neighbors...not from Pallet Town...--[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 22:51, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
::I believe he's talking about the guy with the Rapidash. That is NOT Ash's father. In fact, that guy looks like he's in his teens. God, why do people always jump to conclusions? This confirms nothing. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 02:40, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

:::Besides, the pictures don't line up the same on all displays. I've recently upgraded my monitor to a flat widescreen (with a new tower to go with it), and I'm currently on a 1300x768 resolution. There isn't even a row 12 in that resolution (only 10 rows of three each). --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 03:27, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

I thin that that man in the picture looks a little like '''[[Silver (anime)|Silver]]''', he is hust a bit younger and has slightly shorter hair and diferent clothes.--'''{{wp|Wikipedia|Wiki}}'''[[User:Tomas|''Tomas'']]09:14, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

== Bottom page template ==

The External Links Template seems to be too big.

Can we put in a box that's say

"There are many template. Click "show".

I forgot the link to do that, we should hide it in a box.

--[[User:Ruixiang95|Ruixiang95]] 06:12, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

== Flying-types ==
Perhaps a good idea for the trivia: All of Ash's Flying-type Pokémon are on their final stage, these include: Pidgeot, Noctowl, Swellow, Staraptor, Gliscor, Charizard and Butterfree. [[User:Bigtukker|Bigtukker]] 08:45, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
:Personally I don't think it's notable. Remember that all types must be treated equally.- the same can be said of his Ground, Bug and Ice types, and If you count Aipom's evolution while it was with Dawn, his Normal types as well. Not to mention that there is too much trivia already. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 08:57, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Ash Ketchum/Archive 4

2009-10-04T09:26:54Z

Tomas: /* Ash's age: A CLEAR EXPLANATION */

<big><big><big>ASH'S AGE IS INDETERMINATE! AS OF EPISODE 1, HE IS 10 AS FAR AS IT'S KNOWN! PLEASE DO NOT POST ABOUT IT!</big></big></big>
== Previous discussions ==
* [[Talk:Ash Ketchum/Archive 1|Archive 1]]
* [[Talk:Ash Ketchum/Archive 2|Archive 2]]
* [[Talk:Ash Ketchum/Archive 3|Archive 3]]

== Trivia ==

In the trivia it says about Ash never catching a Pokemon when he has 6 in his party and then gives many exceptions, hardly a worthy piece of trivia, I would suggest removing it but I am afraid of back-lash from other users, so can anyone give their consensus. [[User:Sailor Earth|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Sailor Earth| of]][[User talk:Sailor Earth| Earth]] 20:27, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
:Krabby was at the beginning, there are 30 of those Tauros and Beedrill went straight to Casey. I think the fact is worth mentioning but I'm not sure how to reword it. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 23:11, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
::If thirty Tauros at once counts as many exceptions... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:59, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

==Ash Sprite==
I made a sprite of Ash: [[Image:Ash_Sprite.png]] I used Lucas (since they are very similar) and changed some features. How is it?--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 20:50, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

I say very good!--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 21:00, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! Kuki, you should talk to my younger brother, [[User:Diamaster|Diamaster]]. Does anyone have anything else for me to make?--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 21:03, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

How about we go through it together? Oh, how about giving [[Mimey]] a broom in its sprite on [[Delia]]'s page?--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 21:05, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

:I'll get to it. Feel free to e-mail me anytime you come with an idea. You are like my manager, or somewhat my boss. This works well.--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 21:07, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Should we start from the beginning?--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 21:14, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

I've just finished [[Mimey|Mimey's]] sprite. I'm ready for the list!--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 21:24, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

: It's good but is there any point of putting that in the Article? --[[User:Force Fire|Force Fire]] 09:37, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
:: Actually, last time we did this to Tyson's Meowth, the Cat got the Boot (Geddit? Geddit? Oh forget it...) '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''10:11 6 Jun 2008'''''
:::I have to agree... the sprites are neat (sort of; I've definitely seen better), but they don't really belong in the articles. Just because a Pokémon dresses differently doesn't mean it's not the same Pokémon. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 05:52, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::::All he was trying to do was give the Pokémon some individuality. I'm not sure I'm for the modified sprites of humans but we should let the Pokémon stay. Especially if they are tweaked just so slightly that it barely makes a difference. Like Ash's Sceptile. You can't say that looked bad. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 06:08, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::I understand that. And I guess the less obtrusive ones are OK (this is all just my opinion, anyway). But don't put "sprite by Taviource" on the pages; that's just advertising, which shouldn't be in the main namespace. It's fine that you put it on the images themselves; that way, people who are interested in the sprites can follow them to you, and people who aren't don't think you're a {{tt|whore|apologies if you find the word offensive}}. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 06:33, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::::::Yeah, that was a little out-of-bounds on his part. Still I think the Pokémon ones are cool.--[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 06:40, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::::I can't say that Sceptile looks bad but I can say that it looks incorrect since it had a different twig to Treecko/Grovyle. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 11:07, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
I'm sorry, but i just dont think that traviource's edits ar good enough.I personally think that they should be put back to normal or if it's allowed, http://pokesho.com/icon.html has really nice personalized sprites.I know there's a copyright rule but if you translate the page it says: Pokemon Icon Collection Freedom to use. Anywway, i dont know, but that was my thought.--Riot464

We want them to b somewhat, actuall mostly based off the games.--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 19:58, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Sweet! Pokemonboy 08:39, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

It looks like you used Red as a scratch, not Lucas. -Metagross72

Remarkable!--adyniz 12:58, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

Yeah it looks like Ash if he were in Pokemon Emerald -Usyflad10

== Sun Stone ==
does anyone know what happened to his sun stone from the bug catching contest? [[User:Mooites|Mooites]] 23:55, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

He used it on a Sunkern in [[EP187]]--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 23:58, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
:Not much of a waste since Misty missed the [[Oddish (Pokémon)|"Water-type"]] she tried to catch in [[EP010]]. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:01, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

== Alternate Sprites ==

Oh, since we're on the subject, let's change the MS sprites too! >.> No, seriously, what difference would it make even if we DID have alternate sprites? The best we could do is {{u|Shiny Noctowl}}, and it's an official sprite. Squirtle appeared mostly without its glasses, thus, GET RID OF THEM. Primape and the belt? Wow! The belt got stuck on him for ten minutes and you already want to put it there??? Seriously, folks, ARE WE USING THE ALTERNATE SPRITES OR WHAT? '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''07:38 7 Jun 2008'''''

: In my opinion, we shouldn't be using these altered sprites. As Optimus35 pointed out, most of these alterations are things that appeared for a few minutes in a few episodes. More importantly, the Bulbapedia is ''not'' a place for fan art. If the artist is trying to showcase their art, the Bulbapedia is not the way to do it. [[User:Trainer-c|Trainer-c]] 12:52, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

:: I concur, sort of. Taivource does seem to be on a "Everyone behold my cool sprites." binge. Kenji-girl seems to like the Treecko-line ones, though (and to be fair, they are good). [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 12:56, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
:::Just because we're an encyclopedia of Pokémon doesn't mean every sprite on every page has to be EXACTLY out of a game, does it? '''[[User:Pachirisulover12|PL]][[User talk:Pachirisulover12|12]]''' 13:00, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::If it was a commonly re-occurring theme, then an alternate sprite singles it out as unique, which could be gathered from what I know about the Treeko and evolutions. [[User:Gywall|Gywall]] 13:01, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

WE ARE USING THE ALTERNATE SPRITES, except for the trainer ones, and I actually might've put the yellow stars on Janina's Onix. And, for example Taisei's Piplup wore the tiara all episode--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 13:05, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

: OH, ARE WE NOW? Thanks for being so open to discussion, Kuki. [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 13:11, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

What's that supposed to mean. And Squirtle's glasses, as leader of the squirtle Squad, he's wearing them all the time probably--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 13:19, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
:''If'' it is a significant part of their character design (eg. Noctowl, Treecko/Grovyle without the flower/Sceptile, maybe Squirtle) it is worth featuring the altered sprites. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 13:30, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Exactly they are not just any ordinary Squirtle, Onix, Piplup, or Dustox, there is a special piece of design that seperates them from the ordinary ones. [[User:Sailor Earth|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Sailor Earth| of]][[User talk:Sailor Earth| Earth]] 17:06, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::Exactly. They each have their own significant and reminds us all about all the good times in the anime.--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 17:10, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Plus, Dustox, Squirtle, Primeape, and Butterfree belong/ed to main characters. And remember how we did an alternate sprite for {{an|May}}'s Venusaur as a Bulbasaur--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 17:16, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::We did?--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 17:19, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Not we, but Bulbapedia as a community. The link is there, hover over Bulbasaur, and voila! PROOF!--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 17:24, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
:For the record, I entirely disagree with the Onix sprite. (She tried cheating one time and then had to wash it off.) But this is Ash's talk page so let's stick to those sprites here. The consensus seems to be to keep the alternate sprites and they don't hurt. Are there any valid reasons to not have them? --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 17:49, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::Also, Grovyle needs to lose the flower and Sceptile's twig needs correcting. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 17:49, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

:::Remember, shortly b4 Grovyle evolved, the flower bloomed? Thus the flower stays!--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 17:53, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

::::It was actually wwhen Meganium used Synthesis--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 17:58, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::But that is the main point against some of the sprites: It was a normal twig for almost the entire time it was on the show. For the character design argument to work, you have to actually show its normal character design. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 18:01, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::::::But what if he changes the twig? Can the sprites stay? '''[[User:Pachirisulover12|PL]][[User talk:Pachirisulover12|12]]''' 18:03, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Yeah, it just needs a little editing. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 18:13, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

::Sceptile can have less attention. But what about Nurse Joy's Chansey with the hat? That also keeps on getting deleted.--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 18:09, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
:::This is not Nurse Joy's page, but that is also a common character design. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 18:13, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::::I fixed Joy's page, and added the Pokémon she gave to Stephanie and her dad in AGO34--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 18:15, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::Alright. Thanks, Fabu-Vinny. Thanks, Kuki....but can I fix the Sceptile sprite?--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 18:29, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Sure, cuz I dunno how--KukiTalk

:This is getting downright ridiculous. What do a few pixels matter? I agree with Squirtle and the Treecko family, but Butterfree with scarf and Primeape with belt? Guys, PLEASE, stop having so many alternate sprites!!!
:And, I thought I removed Grovyle's flower. Please, people. Keep this up and we'll eternally ban you from the archives (and Bulbapedia, I guess...) if you keep reuploading and uploading thesep ics. I know you put much effort into them but...They're putting quite a load on the server. That's why there are 26,570 files in the Archive while we only need 26000. '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''02:16 8 Jun 2008'''''
::I kinda agree, especially because they're low quality sprites. Take it from someone who has been spriting for a long time. They aren't good. tc26 02:20, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

You are totally unfair! The majority of support is for the alternate sprites and then you threaten them with blocking because they don't agree with you. I know we are not the same as Wikipedia but on wiki we have consensus where the majority of support wins, or is this an admin dictatorship. [[User:Sailor Earth|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Sailor Earth| of]][[User talk:Sailor Earth| Earth]] 08:52, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
:You do realise that your 'majority' is completely made out of inexperienced users (Excluding Kuki and PL12, who I consider adequate in MediaWIki skills) who barely know that <nowiki></nowiki> will give you text in Comic Sans. People! In the past year (Let's call it the Jurassic), plenty of things have happened. Several vandal attacks. Several fake vandals (Including this account -anime sweatdrop-). These helped to mature our users. Your 'majority' arrived about the late Cretaceous. You know what would happen if you keep it up? That's right. The {{wp|Cretaceous–Tertiary extinction event}}. Do you want Bulbapedia to overload? Do you want our hard work to fall through the hole? People! If you want to change Bulbapedia's standards, GET YER OWN WIKI!!! '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''06:23 9 Jun 2008'''''
:: Don't be so melodramatic. The community as a whole is keeping a better eye on it than that... [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 11:44, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Kuki is an experienced user???????????????????? [[User:Sailor Earth|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Sailor Earth| of]][[User talk:Sailor Earth| Earth]] 10:03, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Kenji-Girl supports alternate sprites, she is very profesional. [[User:Sailor Earth|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Sailor Earth| of]][[User talk:Sailor Earth| Earth]] 10:04, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

:And your point is? [[User:Crystallucario|~'''Crystal''']][[User talk:Crystallucario|~'''Lucario~''']] 11:21, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

I'd navigated this site before becoming a user--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 14:16, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

My point Crystal, is that earlier the comment was made that only un-experienced users supported these sprites and Kenji-Girl is more profesional than most and has common sense, '''and doesn't jump to conclusions''' which is more than can be said {{tt|for some|Darth Cookie Monster, who I thought was my friend until he started constantly insulting me}} [[User:Sailor Earth|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Sailor Earth| of]][[User talk:Sailor Earth| Earth]] 18:39, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
:I'm an admin and I support some of the sprites...
:But things really need to calm down here. It certainly isn't worth creating a riot over. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 18:58, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
::Thanks and I agree with you now.--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 19:00, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Actually, we should keep the squirtle and butterfree sprites, since that was how they were last seen.--[[User:Starlight the ampharos|Starlight_the_ampharos]] 21:31, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

I concur Ampharos. The squirtle and butterfree sprites should be kept, but not primeape's belt or buneary's vest. We are getting way too far out there..... --[[User:Cat2killer|Catu42]] 22:36, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
:Why is Butterfree more special than Primeape? Also, the argument against the vest has weakened now that Buneary wears it so frequently. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 13:17, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

==That last piece of trivia==

For some reason I can't delete that piece of trivia at he bottom of the list and Ireally need to for one simple reason. Its totally wrong. It can't be a trend of Ash catching a flying type, grass, fire and then water because it happens once! Kanto- bug, flying, grass, fire, water. Thats got bug at the start. Johto- bug, grass, fire, water, flying. Noctowl was caught after cyndaquil and he had heracross. Hoenn- flying, grass, water, fire. Water and fire are the wrong way round. Kanto is a main region and so the battle fronteir arc has only the capture of aipom, a normal tyoe. It can't be a trend if it only happens in 1 region! Because I can't delete it for some reason I implore you to get rid of it. A trend has to happen alot more than once. [[User:TheAlmightyChris|TheAlmightyChris]] 21:55, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

:You can't delete it because Fabu-Vinny protected the page (have a look at the page history). [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 00:34, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. I guessed that was the reason. However that really doesn't stop it being wrong and there [[User:TheAlmightyChris|TheAlmightyChris]] 16:34, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

== Ash dressing up ==

In this article it mentions ash's three times cross dressing and his two time having to dress up as fruit. What it doesn't mention is the number of times he has to dress up as an actual pokemon. I can only remember him being Mr. Mime in 'Mr. Mime Time' and as an Octillery in 'Octillery the Outcast'. Im pretty sure there are a few others, can anyone remember, thnx! I just somehow have feeling there may be a few more beside the one's i have said and the one below {{unsigned|Dragonboy}}
:I remember him dressing up as Seviper to teach Nicolai's Zangoose how to battle with one. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 06:00, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

== Electric Tale of Pikachu - Needed Verification ==

Did ash have a Beedrill in Electric Tale of Pikachu manga? Don't remember it. I think someone spreads fake information. I also don't remember any Mankey traded for a fake map. Can anyone verify these informations? --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 10:43, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

No he did not. However, in the second issue, he caught a Mankey, which he did trade for a map. It wasn't actually fake, just very poorly drawn. [[User:Midnight Celtic|Midnight]][[User talk:Midnight Celtic|Celtic]] 20:36, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

== Agh so close to hitting it... ==

But still under the wondrous 10% of all Pokémon. C'mon, Chimchar, evolve soon! '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:37, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

In the article, it says :
"The most badges Ash has ever gotten in the first thirty-five episodes were five badges in Kanto, which makes sense considering that Kanto was significantly shorter than any other saga (aside from the Orange Island saga and the Battle Frontier saga). In every other region thus far, he has only won two badges in the first thirty-five episodes."
It's wrong : he had 6 badges by EP035, as he won :
Boulder Badge in EP005
Cascade Badge in EP007
Thunder Badge in EP014
Marsh Badge in EP024
Rainbow Badge in EP026
Soul Badge in EP032

== Befriending Movie Pokemon(IMPORTANT) ==

We've discussed this and since May has Manaphy, Max has Jirachi, I think Ash should have Latias and Lucario! Any1 agree?--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 12:36, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
:In none of that discussion has anyone given a decent reason for why the '''list of Pokémon owned by Ash''' should have a section for Pokémon he was simply friendly with. It has to much potential to get out of hand. May's page has had Manaphy removed before and Max is the exception because he doesn't own any Pokémon to begin with. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 18:59, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

:: There should be a befriended part.--[[User:Starlight the ampharos|Starlight_the_ampharos]] 21:36, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
:::No. There should not be a befriended section. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 15:51, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
::::Ash befriends every Pokemon he finds even when it isn't a movie. So no. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 22:01, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::A "'''Pokémon Ash doesn't like'''" section would be more realistic, and that itself certainly wouldn't be worth putting in the article. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 22:52, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

== Matnine Overboard ==
Is it notable that Ash was apparently able to recognize what a Mantine is in "Mantine Overboard" depite having never seen one before? The same thing could be said about Regice in the 8th movie but that could be easily explained; If (off-camera)someone explained Registeel, Regirock, and Regice the only one left was Regice (simple process of elimination). But the Mantine one has me confused. I suppose it's possible Ash saw a Mantine in his past before becoming a trainer. --[[User:Dman dustin|Dman dustin]] 18:27, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Yeah that always happens in the anime. They know Pokemon theyve never mentioned or seen b4. Like James and Carnivine. Whenever they go to a new region Brock already knows all the pokemon and what they evolve into despite never mentioning them in the past. [[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 18:33, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
:Are you two forgetting that Ash saw one in [[EP214]] and another in [[EP256]]? ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 18:34, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

214 is Mantine Overboard, the one Dman Dustin is talking about isnt it? [[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 18:35, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
:Nevermind...That's my fault, (For some reason, I thought he was talking about Steamboat Willies.) ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 18:38, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

::Every time a new batch of Pokémon are created, the anime seems to retcon the fact that they have never existed before. When Gen V Pokémon are revealed, the anime will treat them as if they were there from the beginning. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 18:41, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

:TV, Books, and Pokémon games exist in the pokemon world aswell. Also it's not big brother, things would occur off camera and, chances are, if he did see a Mantine in person, it was being minded by Prof. Oak or something like that.
::No matter how it might look shows never show everything frame-by-frame, and neither do movies. Chances are that Ash could see a lot of Pokémon off-camera. And about Brock, I'd assume that he studies about Pokémon off-camera. Also I have never seen a real-life dragon, but that won't stop me from recognizing one if I ever get the chance of seeing one. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 22:07, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

== 3 of 4 gym leaders thing ==

In the trivia bit it says 3 of the 4 female Gym Leaders have turtle based pokemon like he does. What region are we talking about as there are way more than 4 female Gym Leaders overall. Thankyou for your time. [[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 09:54, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Oh I see, 3 of the 4 gym leaders mentioned in the trivia before. Thankyou for your time. [[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 09:56, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

== Question ==

Do [[Leona]] and [[Nando]] qualify as rivals for Ash? [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 03:44, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
:Nando yes. Leona, no. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 04:43, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

== Hurting a Pokémon ==

I can think of at least two occasions Ash has hurt a Pokémon, Drapion in the Riolu special and Squirtle in EP012 (before he caught it). The Advanced Series/Orange Islands are fuzzy for me, I only remember some of the better episodes, can anyone think of any others? {{unsigned|Aura-Knight}}
:Sign your post please. And why are you talking about the Pokémon he's hurt? Just wondering...[[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 13:25, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
::Also, Aura-Knight, he hurt MEOWTH in EP012, not Squirtle. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 16:41, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

== categorised trivia anyone? ==

maybe an "in universe" and "out of universe" sections to seperate character trivia and behind the scenes trivia. maybe even another section for pokemon owned, there's that many [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 23:08, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

==I hate to open up an old can of worms, but...==
I'm completely against the alternate Primeape and Butterfree sprites. They had the the belt/scarf for less than a whole episode, the episodes they left nonetheless. I think the others are fine since they were frequent parts of their characters (Treecko line's twig, Squirtle's sunglasses somewhat), but the belt and scarf are ridiculous. I'm not going to remove them myself since it's bound to start an edit war, so I'm asking for opinions first. '''~[[User:RR|R]][[User talk:RR|R]]~''' 04:29, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
:What i think it is is that weve got to have the most upto date images. The last time they were seen. So if they came back and didnt have them then the alternate sprites would have to be removed. Its like how on {{an|may}} the pic is of her emerald uniform although she spent loads more time in her Ruby uniform, but the most upto date is Emerald, even if it was only for 3 episodes. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 09:43, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
::And for both, it was a signifigant reason that they left, Brock gave the scarf to Butterfree so it could score a mate, thus triggering its departure. Primeape went away to further its abilities after winning because it only really won by a fluke. Butterfree was seen with the scarf later and Primeape with the belt as well. [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 01:31, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
:::Not quite, Aura Knight. Primeape is seen without the belt in Spurt, which is the most recent appearence of him, which going by Guardian's logic means that the alternate sprite shouldn't be there. '''~[[User:RR|R]][[User talk:RR|R]]~''' 03:53, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
::::I'm going to leave this alone, but Primeape needs to lose <s>some weight</s> that belt. '''[[User:Optimatum|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]]|[[User:Optimatum/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''11:20 27 Aug 2008'''''
:::::Further, the Butterfree in Spurt ''does'' have Brock's scarf. My stance is that it should be a significant part of their character design for it to count. So it looks like Primeape is losing the belt but Butterfree can stay as-is for now. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 13:47, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
::::::i agree with that. thats fair --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 14:00, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

== Manga Clefable ==

While we don't have a befriended section for the anime, we do still list Haunter and Larvitar so precedent can go any way. What is the exact situation for Ash and Clefable in the manga? --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 12:41, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
:{{tt|Well|Responding to clear up any future doubts on this score, and yes, it is an old comment}}, I actually have that section of Electric Tale that I got with the old school VHS tapes. Ash found Clefairy, tried to capture it, met Bill and Oak, then ended up conking it with a Moon Stone in an evolution ceremony. Belongs in the befriended section as Oak and Bill commented that Clefairy taught Ash about something or other. Very metaphorical. --- Aura-Knight 01:24, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

== Protection? ==

Why is this page protected again and why until my birthday (Sept. 30)? --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 22:55, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
:There were multiple reversions over the manga Pokémon list, though none of those involved have actually replied to the above topic... --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 23:32, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
::I'm going to go through with my original plan and unprotect it now. If anyone still wants to put the befriended section in, give your reasons in the section above before editing the article again. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 21:17, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

== Why arent the new sprites for Charmander etc. ==
Why arent the new sprites for Charmander etc used??--[[User:Wowy|Wowy]] 07:13, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
:There aren't any new sprites for Charmander, etc. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 14:48, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
::THere are according to the charmnder page--[[User:Wowy|Wowy]] 06:21, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
:::Then it's just that no one has updated the image yet. [[a:Image:004.png]] is used all over the wiki, not just on this page, you know. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 14:25, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
::::Some butthead uploaded the second frame sprites for a few of the old Pokémon. The Pt sprites for non-Sinnoh dex/non-Gen IV Pokémon did not change. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 17:50, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
:::Who's that nutthead?--[[User:Tavisource/Custom Sprite Project|☆]][[User:Tavisource|Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 22:46, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

{{u|Squirtleman}}--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 22:50, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

== Protect this ==
Please, before the edits ''"OMG Twrtwig evolvezzzz!"'' --[[User:Nick.|Nick.]] 17:07, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

== New thing for trivia ==

Should it be noted that Ash has died at least three times during the series? 1- The episode with the ghost pokemon, "Tower of Terror" I think, the chandelier fell on him and Pikachu. 2- "Mewtwo Strikes Back," he tried to stop the battle between Mew and Mewtwo and was turned to stone by the attacks. 3- "Lucario and the Mystery of Mew," the Tree of Beginning's "immune system" absorbed him. This is worth mentioning![[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 21:16, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
:Not sure if "died" is the right word to use, but I agree, it's worth mentioning. – [[User:RyanCross|'''Ryan'''Cross]] ([[User talk:RyanCross|''talk'']]) 21:17, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
::no, before he was absorbed, Lucario took over. he was fine. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 21:21, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
:::And it was mentioned before, but it was removed a long time ago. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psychic''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]''''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 21:22, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
::::Ash never officially died. He got turned into a ghost temporarily, I don't count that as a death. Turning into stone is not the same thing as dying either. It does sometimes happen in fiction that somebody dies and is recovered back to life by magic, however that did not happen. There was some magic involved when the Pokémon cried at the end of the first movie, but he got turned into stone, that's not the same thing as dying. I have only watched the Lucario movie once, so I'm not sure what to say about that. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 00:48, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::Yeah, technically the tree "removed" him and the humans. It didn't kill them, otherwise Mew wouldn't have been able to revive them, even with the anime physics. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psychic''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]''''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 00:52, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
Um, If you ask me, if you turn into a ghost, you sort of have to be dead. Stone isn't alive, so Ash woldn't be alive if he's turned to stone- hate to tell you, but that's the same as being dead. As for the tree's immune system, that's controversial, just like if Lucario itself died at the end of the movie. I understand that last, but besides that, Ash dies at least a couple of times.[[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 22:40, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
:You make a good point, trolls die when they get turned into stones. (by trolls I mean the creatures, not spammers) Ok, I have to admit, you really managed to outsmart me with your remarks. But I have one question though, if a person freezes, but gets warmed up, would that count as death? [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 22:51, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
Um, not sure, that's more like suspended animation. Unless ice crystals form in the bloodstream.[[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 22:29, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

== Temporary Pokémon ==

In regards to both this and [[Misty]]'s article, where Togepi is below her temporarily borrowed Pokémon, I don't see why Temporary comes before Given away (or in Misty's case Released) Pokémon - I would have thought it neater to group the Pokémon that have actually been officially acquired, as opposed to separating them with Pokémon that have only been briefly utilised (and, presumably, not added to their Pokédex). -[[User:Damien Nightstar|Damien Nightstar]] 12:07, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

==Turtwig evolved!!!!!!!!!!!!!!==
can some one change the turwig to grotle and update turtwigs page cuz it evolved! lol [[User:Ritchie|Ritchie]]
:No it didn't. That's next week's episode. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 14:55, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

::Besides, there's no guarantee that the change will simply be reflecting an evolution. I sense shades of [[EP081|''Pallet Party Panic'']] here...--[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 15:14, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
:::go to serebii.net [[User:Ritchie|Ritchie]]
::::We have that "Until it airs" policy, so we can't edit anything. Anyway, Merrick =/= 100% Confirmed. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 15:18, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

:::::serebii.net jumped the gun on {{TP|May|Glaceon}}, too.

:::::Besides, Bulbapedia's policy is "when it airs" ("it" refers to the episode itself). Not "when it's previewed". As far as we know, Ash's team at the end of the episode could (and probably will) be Pikachu, Staravia, Buizel, Chimchar, and Gliscor with one empty slot (indicating leaving Grotle with the herd). --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 15:22, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
::::::ooo , aight [[User:Ritchie|Ritchie]]
:::::::ASH ISN'T GOING TO RELEASE GROTLE!
:::::::Anyway, we are in exactly the same situation as we were yesterday. The evolution has been confirmed since the Newtype summary was released. Serebii just updated Ash's bio today because we have a picture of it now. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 15:27, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
:Until it airs police. This is not the first time that a preview spoils something important... is it so diffcult to wait a week? We'll have a Grotle, we know. But wait. Just a week. Serebii is Serebii, it has its own rules, and Bulbapedia is Bulbapedia, we just have to wait --[[User:Nick.|Me]], [[User talk:Nick.|myself]] and [[Special:Contributions/Nick.|I]] 15:32, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
::Do I have to remind everyone that Serbii.net is edited by limited amount of people? We cannot guarantee it's correct, sure it has a lot of correct information, but when you see something you know is wrong, you can't just fix it like you can do on this site. This is why I believe "when it airs" policy exists. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 15:51, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
:::wow u guys are soo serious like why would u wait a week if u know its "confirmed" until it airs?? what a f*cked up rule [[User:Ritchie|Ritchie]]
::::Because the world will end if Bulbapedia is ever wrong. Do you want the world to end, no, then wait till it airs. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]]
:::::Seriously, it's only a week away. Is waiting really that hard? You should see some misleading trailers if you haven't already. If preview and a fansite is all the proof you have, then it can't be confirmed, since fansites can be wrong and previews can be misleading. Just wait a one week, patience is important, especially in this case. It's not like you have to wait a month. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 17:18, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
::::::Exactly, I couldnt have put it better TBM, I think we should get a mod to protect the page till next week. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]]
:::::::Confirmation isn't the issue here. Newtype's summaries are reliable. We have the rule because sometimes it is more vague and Turtwig is still a Turtwig at the end of the latest episode.
:::::::But information on Serebii's front page is usually right. The issue there is that it's a secondary source - he has the info because he got it from the same place as us. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 20:32, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
::::::::We knew about Gliscor and Swinub long before they evolved and were captured, you know. We knew Aipom would be evolving in DP060 at the end of DP059. We aren't moving it because the lists are always '''''AS OF THE MOST RECENT JAPANESE EPISODE'''''. The most recent episode was [[DP099]]. Turtwig didn't evolve in that one, ergo, it's Ash's Turtwig. Don't even think of changing it, Ritchie. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 21:01, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

TTE and Fabu, are you agreeing with me and TBM or with Ritchie, we say it shouldnt be on there yet, he says it should. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]]
:"Because the world will end if Bulbapedia is ever wrong. Do you want the world to end, no, then wait till it airs."- then why is there such a thing called previews. it was there for a reason. seeing that will give us the urge to watch it and it also about wraps up what will happen on that episode. clearly the episode preview for the turwig,grotle,torterra episode was on serebii and i dont know why u wouldnt agree. can you give me a reason BESIDES that bulbapedia has to wait ill it airs..can u??? [[User:Ritchie|Ritchie]]
*Well, If you want another reason, I'll give you a reason. Sometime ago, way before [[DP034|Buizel your way out of this]] Aired in Japan, they had a preview showing Ash and Pikachu battling it for almost the entire preview, whileas Dawn and Piplup were seen battling Buizel in only one frame, thus implying at that time that Ash was the one capturing it. So, that's one reason why we have that rule. Actually, now that I think about it, that preview [or rather, Buizel itself] IS the reason why we even have that rule. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 23:31, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
::They are on your side.--[[Bulbapedia:Project Custom Sprite|☆]][[User:Tavisource|Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 23:47, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
:::Ritchie, I already gave you my reasons, and they are not just about policy. Would you mind telling me why you don't agree with that? Really, I'd love to know since it's so important to you that it stays on this page. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 01:05, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

== Name? ==
Do you think it's possible that the English name 'Ash' could have also come from the word 'rash'? Anabel, when translating for Pikachu, did say that sometimes he can act rash, and wasn't it also mentioned in the Pokélantis episode? [[User:Ayla|Ayla]] 22:10, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
:Ash is short for Ashley --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]]
[[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]]
::"Ashley" isn't a reason for the name, unless you think it was chosen with [[EP026]] in mind. His rash attitude is definately an interesting possibility but the examples where it is explicitly mentioned are far later. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 14:51, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
:::Im not trying to argue with you, but Ash is a shortened version for Ashley. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]]
::::Yes it is. But that fact alone isn't the reason 4Kids chose Ash. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 19:01, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::I agree with FabuVinny. And also, GuardianOfEarth, if Ash IS short for Ashley, then why would they pick that name? Is there some kind of reasoning behind that? [[User:Ayla|Ayla]] 19:02, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
::::::I dont know how reliable the source was but I seem to remember it being s'''A'''to'''SH'''i which when the capital letters are rearranged spells Ash. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]]
:::::::Er, Guardian? That source is Bulbapedia. This page, in fact. It says that on the bottom. [[User:Ayla|Ayla]] 22:12, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
:You guys should take it to the forums...to {{u|Ayla}}, that may not be true, as he may have got it from somewhere else, but realized it was posted later on here. [[User:Ht14|''ht'']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 22:14, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
::I think the idea is to add it to the article. The rash thing isn't anything more than trivia, though. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 19:27, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
:::Ash is also short for Ashton... --[[User:Force Fire|Force]] [[User talk:Force Fire|''Fire'']] 07:09, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
Am I the only one who thought it was a connection to the other characters names being based on trees? Oak tree, Ash tree etc [[User:TheAlmightyChris|TheAlmightyChris]] 23:09, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
:I think that Ash's name came from Sacred Ash --[[User:Kamusioso|Kamusioso]]
::Unlikely. That item wasn't introudced until Gen II. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 19:19, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
But Ash saw Ho-oh in the first episode and Sacred Ash is Ho-oh's held item.-Kevin19980609
:Restating what was said above, the Sacred Ash wasn't introduced till GenII. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 21:52, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
::So 4Kids wouldn't have known about it yet. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 21:53, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

== Togepi ==
OK I jest back and now war over Togepi I jest got two words WHO CARES he had egg and Misty got Togepi END OF STORY![[User:XD007DarkRayquaza|XD007DarkRayquaza]] 22:56, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
:Ash found the egg. But the result of "who gets to keep Togepi" was Misty. Ash won the battle but not the prize. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 09:46, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
::No, he won the prize, but gave it to Misty. A'la Beedrill. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 11:53, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
:::He actually captured Beedrill. He didn't give it to Misty, he didn't have a choice. Togepi went to Misty. Besides this was an unoffical contest. As far as it's really known, no one has captured Togepi. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 12:01, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
::::So what he won that match? He didn't even touch Togepi or do anything with it at any time after it hatched. It went directly to Misty by itself. Ash never gave it to her. [[User:Jmath|'''Jm''']][[User talk:Jmath|'''a''']][[Special:Contributions/Jmath|'''th''']] 13:48, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::I think it's Ash who said that he'd give it to Misty. -[[User:Billy4b2004|Billy4b2004]] 03:08, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
::::::Yeah, he said it. But we all saw what happened. Togepi ran to Misty when Ash tried to touch it. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 04:51, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

== Larvitar's egg ==
Why is it different from Donphan's egg? In Donphan case, the word "egg" , the sign "→" and the word "Phanpy" is linked together, why isn't it the same for Larvitar's? And please add a notice on the page if it's protected.-[[User:Billy4b2004|Billy4b2004]] 13:56, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

== Is this Trivial Worth? ==

Ash has captured or had the first poison,grass,fire,flying,water,bug,fighting,normal and electric type pokemon in the pokedex.[[User:Collol|Collol]] 08:58, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
:Why not?--'''[[User:Diby|Di]][[User talk:Diby|b]][[Special:Contributions/Diby|y]]''' 13:11, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
Not really...I think Ash has enough trivia. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 21:21, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
::- on the Normal too, it's either Rattata or Pidgey, and he never captured either. He has, technically, capture the first Pokémon in every dex, which is more notable in my eyes (even though it just means he caught the starters). --- Aura-Knight 03:59, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

== How do I edit his pokemon template? ==

I need to know, since it's been officially confirmed now that Haunter was, indeed, Ash's Pokemon (both the dub and the original version of Haunter vs. Kadabra had Ash and Sabrina saying that Ash "Got" Haunter, implying that it is, officially, his pokemon, and I needed to move Haunter to "Given Away" due to this fact. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 23:55, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
:[[Template:Ash's Pokémon]]--[[Bulbapedia:Project Custom Sprite|☆]][[User:Tavisource|Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 00:03, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
::He never caught it, so it was never his to give away...so it is unofficial. And we've had discussion over this before... majority ruled unofficial. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 00:13, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
:::Even though Ash and Sabrina explicitly used the word "Get" [or the Japanese equivalent] in regards to Ash capturing Haunter in both the original and the dubbed version? Heck, usually when the word capture (or the japanese word get) is used in regards to it, it implies that it's part of the party, and thus an official member. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 00:23, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
::::Capturing means capturing it in a Pokéball. Same with {{AP|Larvitar}}. [[User:Jmath|'''Jm''']][[User talk:Jmath|'''a''']][[Special:Contributions/Jmath|'''th''']] 15:49, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::Then why is [[Misty's Togetic|Togetic/Togepi]] listed as a released pokémon or even an officially captured pokémon? Besides, there are cases where the pokémon is still not yours, even IF you captured it in a Poké Ball. Take [[Brock's Vulpix|Vulpix]], for example. That Pokémon was captured by Brock with a Poké ball, and yet even he said it wasn't even his to begin with. Basically, Haunter is to stay as a given away pokémon, since if even a Gym Leader in both versions referred to Haunter as being Ash's pokémon, having ownership of it, and saying he "got" it, that pretty much confirms that Haunter is officially his pokémon. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 00:51, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

== Well.... ==

Just want to know if this trivia is notable..
:Out of all the Pokémon that Ash owns, the last Pokémon that he has captured in every [[region]] except [[Kanto]] is part of {{DL|evolution|one-evolution families}}, namely {{p|Noctowl}}, {{p|Snorunt}} and {{p|Gligar}}. If the [[Orange Archipelago]] is also included, {{p|Snorlax}} also falls in this category.
[[User:Jmath|'''Jm''']][[User talk:Jmath|'''a''']][[Special:Contributions/Jmath|'''th''']] 21:12, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
:No. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 22:53, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

== I'm going to get decked by Tavisource for this... ==

...But Ash's Squirtle didn't wear the sunglasses that often. Only in a few episodes. If we are not letting Buneary have the vest for the very same reason, then I don't think we should have that sprite for Squirtle. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 20:57, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

:Buneary has only appeared a few times with the vest (although granted, she has only appeared a few times since getting the vest). Squirtle appeared in several major episodes with the glasses, and is assuredly currently wearing them as leader of the Squirtle Squad. [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 21:34, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
::The glasses are a big part of Squirtle's character and far less random than the vest. I personally put the line right there just because the Squirtle is so synonymous with the glasses. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 13:44, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
:::I agree with Vinny. The appearance of Squirtle's sunglasses are directly related to Squirtle's reaction to events. He takes them out when he's taking charge of a situation ([[EP060|Beach Blank-Out Blastoise]]), when his ego feels threatened ([[EP106|The Pokemon Water War]]), or when he wants to appear more threatening ([[Pikachu's Rescue Adventure]]). [[User:Legionaireb|Legionaireb]] 04:58, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

== Reason why I reverted the sprite edit ==

This is what I don't like about the rollback feature...

Anyway, that Chikorita sprite was just unacceptable. Let's use the DPPt version until we find a better one. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 05:37, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

== Champion ==

Why does it say that Ash is a champion? When did he won a pokemon league?(The orange league and the battle frontier are Campionchips, not Leagues).--[[User:Tomas|Tomas]] 12:54, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
:(The '''orange league''' and the battle frontier are Campionchips, not Leagues)
:There you go.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Ho-Oh (Pokémon)|orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Lugia (Pokémon)|ire]] 08:27, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
::It's called "The Orange League". It is a league. Just not a tournament type. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 08:32, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
It says it's a championchip in the article:Ash challenged the following Pokémon '''championships''' as well: List of battles (heavy spoiler)

'''[[Orange League]]''' (Champion)
'''[[Kanto]] [[Battle Frontier]]''' (Champion)
--[[User:Tomas|Tomas]] 13:15, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

== Propensity for Drowning ==

I'm not sure whether this is worth mentioning in the page, but Ash seems to have a knack for either nearly drowning or getting into situations where drowning is a likely possibility. I can think of about 9 instances off the top of my head. A short list includes [[EP016|Pokemon Shipwreck]] (trapped in a capsized ship), [[EP067|the Pi-Kahuna]] (after wiping out in the surf), [[Pokemon Heroes]] (when Oakley tries to stop him from entering the museum), and in [[Pokemon Ranger and the Temple of the Sea]] (when attempting to fix the crystal lattice in the flooded chamber.) Can some others weigh in, please? [[User:Legionaireb|Legionaireb]] 15:47, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
:There was also ''[[Holiday Hi-Jynx]]'' right when Lapras rescued him. And I guess the journey to New Island in Mewtwo Strikes Back. Oh, and the climax of the Second Movie (after Lawrence nearly killed Lugia), as well as when Ash filled Team Rocket's van with Water in the episode where he battled Ritchie. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 17:03, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

:It's just one of his character traits "courage" wich is probably listed in the article (I don't wanna scan the article to see if I'm right). He will do anything to save his allies and the common scenario he gets into is drowning.[[User:Vhayes1992|Vhayes1992]] 02:43, 28 July 2009 that in(UTC)

== Ash's age: A CLEAR EXPLANATION ==

Before you people come up with your opinions on Ash's age, take the time to wonder... Did it ever occur to any of you that this is a cartoon? Let me remind you of another show. You may have heard of it. It's called {{wp|The Simpsons}}. Bart Simpson, a ten year old boy, is one of the main characters. Now the show has been on for like 20 years and yet Bart is still 10. So stop thinking that it's so damn unbelievable that Ash is still ten years old when Bart Simpson has the same case. It's clear in The Simpsons that many years pass by as the kids go to school, get summer vacation, and go to school again, and still remain in the same grade and never age. The mentioning of passing years are mentioned all the time but no one ages.

In a nutshell this is a freakin cartoon people. Therefore they don't have to make the characters age. They may mention that years go by, but that doesn't mean they age. So I don't want any of you coming up with your theories here. Ash is, and will likely stay 10 until the series is over. If you believe otherwise then go to the forums and discuss it. I know that there are animes that age their characters, but Pokémon is NOT one of them. Learn to accept it. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 00:22, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
:Check out ''[[wp:Case Closed|Detective Conan]]''. It's an anime that's been running for longer than Pokémon, constantly references the time of year (with way too many events happing around New Year to make any sense) and yet none of the characters have aged a day.
:[[Aging in the anime]] states our policy on this. It isn't explicitly stated that anyone is any older (and you'd think Ash would mention if it was his birthday in the third Pikachu short) so we go by the only age that is canon. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 15:44, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
Well if the info on Paul's page is correct, paul has been to 3 regoins, while Ash has also been to the orange islands and in kanto again for the battle frontier, so if paul is realy 11 then ash is at least older than him.--[[User:Tomas|Tomas]] 09:26, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

==Question about voice actor==

I have a question concerning an edit I'd might to do. In the box where the English voice actors names are it says "Sarah Natochenny (PUSA)". Should it be "Sarah Natochenny (TCPi)"? It's no longer PUSA anymore. [[User:Vhayes1992|Vhayes1992]] 23:52, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

I know what you are talking about but ash's voice actor is still same "Sarah Natochenny" and other voice actors (most of them) are same.
--♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''niz''']]♪♫ 06:02, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
:I mean, should we change it from PUSA to TPCi?-- [[User:Vhayes1992|Vhayes1992]] 06:55, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

I think firstly you have to get permission from the administrators.
--♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''niz''']]♪♫ 06:56, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

== Protect ==

I suggest someone protect this page. at least until DP146 (or DP145, i cant remember which) airs. my reson, because of the posibility of ash catching a Gible in this episode. [[User talk: ShinyPikachu|Shiny]][[User:ShinyPikachu|'''Pika''']] 23:28, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
:Not only this but Dawn, Brock, Jessie, and James also because they all have possibilities of getting Gible. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] '''''[[Special:Contributions/Turtwig_A|Contributions]]''''' '''''[[User talk:Turtwig A|Talk]]''''' 23:30, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
::If someone tries to add it to any of the main characters pages, I will protect them. For now, it'll remain editable. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 23:37, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
:::Excuse me guys, Ash already have 6 pokemon in his team, exceptions are there but use your common sense. --♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''niz''']]♪♫ 04:44, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
::::I agree with you, just hope there is no release and capture in one episode. Most likely not to happen.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 04:46, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::Ya, i hope so. --♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''niz''']]♪♫ 04:52, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::That doesn't mean he can't capture anymore Pokémon. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 04:54, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::::One word: Krabby!!!!!!!!--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 04:55, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::::I said that exceptions are there. --♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''niz''']]♪♫ 04:56, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::I know I just wanted to say that.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 04:58, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::But when he caught Krabby, he wasn't aware that it would be transferred away.--[[Bulbapedia:Project Custom Sprite|☆]][[User:Tavisource|Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 22:03, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

== ash's dad ==

http://www.serebii.net/anime/pictures/shinou/606ps8.shtml

12th row, 2nd picture.

could someone get this pic and post it? it confirms that his dad is not giovonni, oak, or silver, but an unnamed, never before seen man. {{unsigned|WaterUser}}

:[[Iizō and Kane Iino|Those people]] are from Twinleaf Town and are Dawn's neighbors...not from Pallet Town...--[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 22:51, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
::I believe he's talking about the guy with the Rapidash. That is NOT Ash's father. In fact, that guy looks like he's in his teens. God, why do people always jump to conclusions? This confirms nothing. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 02:40, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

:::Besides, the pictures don't line up the same on all displays. I've recently upgraded my monitor to a flat widescreen (with a new tower to go with it), and I'm currently on a 1300x768 resolution. There isn't even a row 12 in that resolution (only 10 rows of three each). --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 03:27, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

I thin that that man in the picture looks a little like '''[[Silver (anime)|Silver]]''', he is hust a bit younger and has slightly shorter hair and diferent clothes.--'''{{wp|Wikipedia|Wiki}}'''[[User:Tomas|''Tomas'']]09:14, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

== Bottom page template ==

The External Links Template seems to be too big.

Can we put in a box that's say

"There are many template. Click "show".

I forgot the link to do that, we should hide it in a box.

--[[User:Ruixiang95|Ruixiang95]] 06:12, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

== Flying-types ==
Perhaps a good idea for the trivia: All of Ash's Flying-type Pokémon are on their final stage, these include: Pidgeot, Noctowl, Swellow, Staraptor, Gliscor, Charizard and Butterfree. [[User:Bigtukker|Bigtukker]] 08:45, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
:Personally I don't think it's notable. Remember that all types must be treated equally.- the same can be said of his Ground, Bug and Ice types, and If you count Aipom's evolution while it was with Dawn, his Normal types as well. Not to mention that there is too much trivia already. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 08:57, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Ash Ketchum/Archive 4

2009-10-04T09:17:07Z

Tomas: /* ash's dad */

<big><big><big>ASH'S AGE IS INDETERMINATE! AS OF EPISODE 1, HE IS 10 AS FAR AS IT'S KNOWN! PLEASE DO NOT POST ABOUT IT!</big></big></big>
== Previous discussions ==
* [[Talk:Ash Ketchum/Archive 1|Archive 1]]
* [[Talk:Ash Ketchum/Archive 2|Archive 2]]
* [[Talk:Ash Ketchum/Archive 3|Archive 3]]

== Trivia ==

In the trivia it says about Ash never catching a Pokemon when he has 6 in his party and then gives many exceptions, hardly a worthy piece of trivia, I would suggest removing it but I am afraid of back-lash from other users, so can anyone give their consensus. [[User:Sailor Earth|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Sailor Earth| of]][[User talk:Sailor Earth| Earth]] 20:27, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
:Krabby was at the beginning, there are 30 of those Tauros and Beedrill went straight to Casey. I think the fact is worth mentioning but I'm not sure how to reword it. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 23:11, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
::If thirty Tauros at once counts as many exceptions... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:59, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

==Ash Sprite==
I made a sprite of Ash: [[Image:Ash_Sprite.png]] I used Lucas (since they are very similar) and changed some features. How is it?--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 20:50, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

I say very good!--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 21:00, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! Kuki, you should talk to my younger brother, [[User:Diamaster|Diamaster]]. Does anyone have anything else for me to make?--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 21:03, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

How about we go through it together? Oh, how about giving [[Mimey]] a broom in its sprite on [[Delia]]'s page?--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 21:05, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

:I'll get to it. Feel free to e-mail me anytime you come with an idea. You are like my manager, or somewhat my boss. This works well.--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 21:07, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Should we start from the beginning?--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 21:14, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

I've just finished [[Mimey|Mimey's]] sprite. I'm ready for the list!--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 21:24, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

: It's good but is there any point of putting that in the Article? --[[User:Force Fire|Force Fire]] 09:37, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
:: Actually, last time we did this to Tyson's Meowth, the Cat got the Boot (Geddit? Geddit? Oh forget it...) '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''10:11 6 Jun 2008'''''
:::I have to agree... the sprites are neat (sort of; I've definitely seen better), but they don't really belong in the articles. Just because a Pokémon dresses differently doesn't mean it's not the same Pokémon. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 05:52, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::::All he was trying to do was give the Pokémon some individuality. I'm not sure I'm for the modified sprites of humans but we should let the Pokémon stay. Especially if they are tweaked just so slightly that it barely makes a difference. Like Ash's Sceptile. You can't say that looked bad. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 06:08, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::I understand that. And I guess the less obtrusive ones are OK (this is all just my opinion, anyway). But don't put "sprite by Taviource" on the pages; that's just advertising, which shouldn't be in the main namespace. It's fine that you put it on the images themselves; that way, people who are interested in the sprites can follow them to you, and people who aren't don't think you're a {{tt|whore|apologies if you find the word offensive}}. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 06:33, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::::::Yeah, that was a little out-of-bounds on his part. Still I think the Pokémon ones are cool.--[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 06:40, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::::I can't say that Sceptile looks bad but I can say that it looks incorrect since it had a different twig to Treecko/Grovyle. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 11:07, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
I'm sorry, but i just dont think that traviource's edits ar good enough.I personally think that they should be put back to normal or if it's allowed, http://pokesho.com/icon.html has really nice personalized sprites.I know there's a copyright rule but if you translate the page it says: Pokemon Icon Collection Freedom to use. Anywway, i dont know, but that was my thought.--Riot464

We want them to b somewhat, actuall mostly based off the games.--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 19:58, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Sweet! Pokemonboy 08:39, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

It looks like you used Red as a scratch, not Lucas. -Metagross72

Remarkable!--adyniz 12:58, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

Yeah it looks like Ash if he were in Pokemon Emerald -Usyflad10

== Sun Stone ==
does anyone know what happened to his sun stone from the bug catching contest? [[User:Mooites|Mooites]] 23:55, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

He used it on a Sunkern in [[EP187]]--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 23:58, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
:Not much of a waste since Misty missed the [[Oddish (Pokémon)|"Water-type"]] she tried to catch in [[EP010]]. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:01, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

== Alternate Sprites ==

Oh, since we're on the subject, let's change the MS sprites too! >.> No, seriously, what difference would it make even if we DID have alternate sprites? The best we could do is {{u|Shiny Noctowl}}, and it's an official sprite. Squirtle appeared mostly without its glasses, thus, GET RID OF THEM. Primape and the belt? Wow! The belt got stuck on him for ten minutes and you already want to put it there??? Seriously, folks, ARE WE USING THE ALTERNATE SPRITES OR WHAT? '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''07:38 7 Jun 2008'''''

: In my opinion, we shouldn't be using these altered sprites. As Optimus35 pointed out, most of these alterations are things that appeared for a few minutes in a few episodes. More importantly, the Bulbapedia is ''not'' a place for fan art. If the artist is trying to showcase their art, the Bulbapedia is not the way to do it. [[User:Trainer-c|Trainer-c]] 12:52, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

:: I concur, sort of. Taivource does seem to be on a "Everyone behold my cool sprites." binge. Kenji-girl seems to like the Treecko-line ones, though (and to be fair, they are good). [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 12:56, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
:::Just because we're an encyclopedia of Pokémon doesn't mean every sprite on every page has to be EXACTLY out of a game, does it? '''[[User:Pachirisulover12|PL]][[User talk:Pachirisulover12|12]]''' 13:00, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::If it was a commonly re-occurring theme, then an alternate sprite singles it out as unique, which could be gathered from what I know about the Treeko and evolutions. [[User:Gywall|Gywall]] 13:01, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

WE ARE USING THE ALTERNATE SPRITES, except for the trainer ones, and I actually might've put the yellow stars on Janina's Onix. And, for example Taisei's Piplup wore the tiara all episode--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 13:05, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

: OH, ARE WE NOW? Thanks for being so open to discussion, Kuki. [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 13:11, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

What's that supposed to mean. And Squirtle's glasses, as leader of the squirtle Squad, he's wearing them all the time probably--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 13:19, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
:''If'' it is a significant part of their character design (eg. Noctowl, Treecko/Grovyle without the flower/Sceptile, maybe Squirtle) it is worth featuring the altered sprites. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 13:30, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Exactly they are not just any ordinary Squirtle, Onix, Piplup, or Dustox, there is a special piece of design that seperates them from the ordinary ones. [[User:Sailor Earth|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Sailor Earth| of]][[User talk:Sailor Earth| Earth]] 17:06, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::Exactly. They each have their own significant and reminds us all about all the good times in the anime.--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 17:10, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Plus, Dustox, Squirtle, Primeape, and Butterfree belong/ed to main characters. And remember how we did an alternate sprite for {{an|May}}'s Venusaur as a Bulbasaur--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 17:16, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::We did?--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 17:19, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Not we, but Bulbapedia as a community. The link is there, hover over Bulbasaur, and voila! PROOF!--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 17:24, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
:For the record, I entirely disagree with the Onix sprite. (She tried cheating one time and then had to wash it off.) But this is Ash's talk page so let's stick to those sprites here. The consensus seems to be to keep the alternate sprites and they don't hurt. Are there any valid reasons to not have them? --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 17:49, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::Also, Grovyle needs to lose the flower and Sceptile's twig needs correcting. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 17:49, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

:::Remember, shortly b4 Grovyle evolved, the flower bloomed? Thus the flower stays!--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 17:53, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

::::It was actually wwhen Meganium used Synthesis--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 17:58, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::But that is the main point against some of the sprites: It was a normal twig for almost the entire time it was on the show. For the character design argument to work, you have to actually show its normal character design. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 18:01, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::::::But what if he changes the twig? Can the sprites stay? '''[[User:Pachirisulover12|PL]][[User talk:Pachirisulover12|12]]''' 18:03, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Yeah, it just needs a little editing. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 18:13, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

::Sceptile can have less attention. But what about Nurse Joy's Chansey with the hat? That also keeps on getting deleted.--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 18:09, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
:::This is not Nurse Joy's page, but that is also a common character design. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 18:13, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::::I fixed Joy's page, and added the Pokémon she gave to Stephanie and her dad in AGO34--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 18:15, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::Alright. Thanks, Fabu-Vinny. Thanks, Kuki....but can I fix the Sceptile sprite?--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 18:29, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Sure, cuz I dunno how--KukiTalk

:This is getting downright ridiculous. What do a few pixels matter? I agree with Squirtle and the Treecko family, but Butterfree with scarf and Primeape with belt? Guys, PLEASE, stop having so many alternate sprites!!!
:And, I thought I removed Grovyle's flower. Please, people. Keep this up and we'll eternally ban you from the archives (and Bulbapedia, I guess...) if you keep reuploading and uploading thesep ics. I know you put much effort into them but...They're putting quite a load on the server. That's why there are 26,570 files in the Archive while we only need 26000. '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''02:16 8 Jun 2008'''''
::I kinda agree, especially because they're low quality sprites. Take it from someone who has been spriting for a long time. They aren't good. tc26 02:20, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

You are totally unfair! The majority of support is for the alternate sprites and then you threaten them with blocking because they don't agree with you. I know we are not the same as Wikipedia but on wiki we have consensus where the majority of support wins, or is this an admin dictatorship. [[User:Sailor Earth|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Sailor Earth| of]][[User talk:Sailor Earth| Earth]] 08:52, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
:You do realise that your 'majority' is completely made out of inexperienced users (Excluding Kuki and PL12, who I consider adequate in MediaWIki skills) who barely know that <nowiki></nowiki> will give you text in Comic Sans. People! In the past year (Let's call it the Jurassic), plenty of things have happened. Several vandal attacks. Several fake vandals (Including this account -anime sweatdrop-). These helped to mature our users. Your 'majority' arrived about the late Cretaceous. You know what would happen if you keep it up? That's right. The {{wp|Cretaceous–Tertiary extinction event}}. Do you want Bulbapedia to overload? Do you want our hard work to fall through the hole? People! If you want to change Bulbapedia's standards, GET YER OWN WIKI!!! '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''06:23 9 Jun 2008'''''
:: Don't be so melodramatic. The community as a whole is keeping a better eye on it than that... [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 11:44, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Kuki is an experienced user???????????????????? [[User:Sailor Earth|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Sailor Earth| of]][[User talk:Sailor Earth| Earth]] 10:03, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Kenji-Girl supports alternate sprites, she is very profesional. [[User:Sailor Earth|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Sailor Earth| of]][[User talk:Sailor Earth| Earth]] 10:04, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

:And your point is? [[User:Crystallucario|~'''Crystal''']][[User talk:Crystallucario|~'''Lucario~''']] 11:21, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

I'd navigated this site before becoming a user--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 14:16, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

My point Crystal, is that earlier the comment was made that only un-experienced users supported these sprites and Kenji-Girl is more profesional than most and has common sense, '''and doesn't jump to conclusions''' which is more than can be said {{tt|for some|Darth Cookie Monster, who I thought was my friend until he started constantly insulting me}} [[User:Sailor Earth|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Sailor Earth| of]][[User talk:Sailor Earth| Earth]] 18:39, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
:I'm an admin and I support some of the sprites...
:But things really need to calm down here. It certainly isn't worth creating a riot over. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 18:58, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
::Thanks and I agree with you now.--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 19:00, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Actually, we should keep the squirtle and butterfree sprites, since that was how they were last seen.--[[User:Starlight the ampharos|Starlight_the_ampharos]] 21:31, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

I concur Ampharos. The squirtle and butterfree sprites should be kept, but not primeape's belt or buneary's vest. We are getting way too far out there..... --[[User:Cat2killer|Catu42]] 22:36, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
:Why is Butterfree more special than Primeape? Also, the argument against the vest has weakened now that Buneary wears it so frequently. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 13:17, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

==That last piece of trivia==

For some reason I can't delete that piece of trivia at he bottom of the list and Ireally need to for one simple reason. Its totally wrong. It can't be a trend of Ash catching a flying type, grass, fire and then water because it happens once! Kanto- bug, flying, grass, fire, water. Thats got bug at the start. Johto- bug, grass, fire, water, flying. Noctowl was caught after cyndaquil and he had heracross. Hoenn- flying, grass, water, fire. Water and fire are the wrong way round. Kanto is a main region and so the battle fronteir arc has only the capture of aipom, a normal tyoe. It can't be a trend if it only happens in 1 region! Because I can't delete it for some reason I implore you to get rid of it. A trend has to happen alot more than once. [[User:TheAlmightyChris|TheAlmightyChris]] 21:55, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

:You can't delete it because Fabu-Vinny protected the page (have a look at the page history). [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 00:34, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. I guessed that was the reason. However that really doesn't stop it being wrong and there [[User:TheAlmightyChris|TheAlmightyChris]] 16:34, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

== Ash dressing up ==

In this article it mentions ash's three times cross dressing and his two time having to dress up as fruit. What it doesn't mention is the number of times he has to dress up as an actual pokemon. I can only remember him being Mr. Mime in 'Mr. Mime Time' and as an Octillery in 'Octillery the Outcast'. Im pretty sure there are a few others, can anyone remember, thnx! I just somehow have feeling there may be a few more beside the one's i have said and the one below {{unsigned|Dragonboy}}
:I remember him dressing up as Seviper to teach Nicolai's Zangoose how to battle with one. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 06:00, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

== Electric Tale of Pikachu - Needed Verification ==

Did ash have a Beedrill in Electric Tale of Pikachu manga? Don't remember it. I think someone spreads fake information. I also don't remember any Mankey traded for a fake map. Can anyone verify these informations? --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 10:43, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

No he did not. However, in the second issue, he caught a Mankey, which he did trade for a map. It wasn't actually fake, just very poorly drawn. [[User:Midnight Celtic|Midnight]][[User talk:Midnight Celtic|Celtic]] 20:36, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

== Agh so close to hitting it... ==

But still under the wondrous 10% of all Pokémon. C'mon, Chimchar, evolve soon! '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:37, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

In the article, it says :
"The most badges Ash has ever gotten in the first thirty-five episodes were five badges in Kanto, which makes sense considering that Kanto was significantly shorter than any other saga (aside from the Orange Island saga and the Battle Frontier saga). In every other region thus far, he has only won two badges in the first thirty-five episodes."
It's wrong : he had 6 badges by EP035, as he won :
Boulder Badge in EP005
Cascade Badge in EP007
Thunder Badge in EP014
Marsh Badge in EP024
Rainbow Badge in EP026
Soul Badge in EP032

== Befriending Movie Pokemon(IMPORTANT) ==

We've discussed this and since May has Manaphy, Max has Jirachi, I think Ash should have Latias and Lucario! Any1 agree?--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 12:36, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
:In none of that discussion has anyone given a decent reason for why the '''list of Pokémon owned by Ash''' should have a section for Pokémon he was simply friendly with. It has to much potential to get out of hand. May's page has had Manaphy removed before and Max is the exception because he doesn't own any Pokémon to begin with. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 18:59, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

:: There should be a befriended part.--[[User:Starlight the ampharos|Starlight_the_ampharos]] 21:36, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
:::No. There should not be a befriended section. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 15:51, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
::::Ash befriends every Pokemon he finds even when it isn't a movie. So no. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 22:01, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::A "'''Pokémon Ash doesn't like'''" section would be more realistic, and that itself certainly wouldn't be worth putting in the article. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 22:52, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

== Matnine Overboard ==
Is it notable that Ash was apparently able to recognize what a Mantine is in "Mantine Overboard" depite having never seen one before? The same thing could be said about Regice in the 8th movie but that could be easily explained; If (off-camera)someone explained Registeel, Regirock, and Regice the only one left was Regice (simple process of elimination). But the Mantine one has me confused. I suppose it's possible Ash saw a Mantine in his past before becoming a trainer. --[[User:Dman dustin|Dman dustin]] 18:27, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Yeah that always happens in the anime. They know Pokemon theyve never mentioned or seen b4. Like James and Carnivine. Whenever they go to a new region Brock already knows all the pokemon and what they evolve into despite never mentioning them in the past. [[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 18:33, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
:Are you two forgetting that Ash saw one in [[EP214]] and another in [[EP256]]? ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 18:34, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

214 is Mantine Overboard, the one Dman Dustin is talking about isnt it? [[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 18:35, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
:Nevermind...That's my fault, (For some reason, I thought he was talking about Steamboat Willies.) ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 18:38, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

::Every time a new batch of Pokémon are created, the anime seems to retcon the fact that they have never existed before. When Gen V Pokémon are revealed, the anime will treat them as if they were there from the beginning. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 18:41, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

:TV, Books, and Pokémon games exist in the pokemon world aswell. Also it's not big brother, things would occur off camera and, chances are, if he did see a Mantine in person, it was being minded by Prof. Oak or something like that.
::No matter how it might look shows never show everything frame-by-frame, and neither do movies. Chances are that Ash could see a lot of Pokémon off-camera. And about Brock, I'd assume that he studies about Pokémon off-camera. Also I have never seen a real-life dragon, but that won't stop me from recognizing one if I ever get the chance of seeing one. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 22:07, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

== 3 of 4 gym leaders thing ==

In the trivia bit it says 3 of the 4 female Gym Leaders have turtle based pokemon like he does. What region are we talking about as there are way more than 4 female Gym Leaders overall. Thankyou for your time. [[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 09:54, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Oh I see, 3 of the 4 gym leaders mentioned in the trivia before. Thankyou for your time. [[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 09:56, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

== Question ==

Do [[Leona]] and [[Nando]] qualify as rivals for Ash? [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 03:44, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
:Nando yes. Leona, no. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 04:43, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

== Hurting a Pokémon ==

I can think of at least two occasions Ash has hurt a Pokémon, Drapion in the Riolu special and Squirtle in EP012 (before he caught it). The Advanced Series/Orange Islands are fuzzy for me, I only remember some of the better episodes, can anyone think of any others? {{unsigned|Aura-Knight}}
:Sign your post please. And why are you talking about the Pokémon he's hurt? Just wondering...[[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 13:25, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
::Also, Aura-Knight, he hurt MEOWTH in EP012, not Squirtle. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 16:41, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

== categorised trivia anyone? ==

maybe an "in universe" and "out of universe" sections to seperate character trivia and behind the scenes trivia. maybe even another section for pokemon owned, there's that many [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 23:08, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

==I hate to open up an old can of worms, but...==
I'm completely against the alternate Primeape and Butterfree sprites. They had the the belt/scarf for less than a whole episode, the episodes they left nonetheless. I think the others are fine since they were frequent parts of their characters (Treecko line's twig, Squirtle's sunglasses somewhat), but the belt and scarf are ridiculous. I'm not going to remove them myself since it's bound to start an edit war, so I'm asking for opinions first. '''~[[User:RR|R]][[User talk:RR|R]]~''' 04:29, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
:What i think it is is that weve got to have the most upto date images. The last time they were seen. So if they came back and didnt have them then the alternate sprites would have to be removed. Its like how on {{an|may}} the pic is of her emerald uniform although she spent loads more time in her Ruby uniform, but the most upto date is Emerald, even if it was only for 3 episodes. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 09:43, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
::And for both, it was a signifigant reason that they left, Brock gave the scarf to Butterfree so it could score a mate, thus triggering its departure. Primeape went away to further its abilities after winning because it only really won by a fluke. Butterfree was seen with the scarf later and Primeape with the belt as well. [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 01:31, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
:::Not quite, Aura Knight. Primeape is seen without the belt in Spurt, which is the most recent appearence of him, which going by Guardian's logic means that the alternate sprite shouldn't be there. '''~[[User:RR|R]][[User talk:RR|R]]~''' 03:53, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
::::I'm going to leave this alone, but Primeape needs to lose <s>some weight</s> that belt. '''[[User:Optimatum|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]]|[[User:Optimatum/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''11:20 27 Aug 2008'''''
:::::Further, the Butterfree in Spurt ''does'' have Brock's scarf. My stance is that it should be a significant part of their character design for it to count. So it looks like Primeape is losing the belt but Butterfree can stay as-is for now. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 13:47, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
::::::i agree with that. thats fair --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 14:00, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

== Manga Clefable ==

While we don't have a befriended section for the anime, we do still list Haunter and Larvitar so precedent can go any way. What is the exact situation for Ash and Clefable in the manga? --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 12:41, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
:{{tt|Well|Responding to clear up any future doubts on this score, and yes, it is an old comment}}, I actually have that section of Electric Tale that I got with the old school VHS tapes. Ash found Clefairy, tried to capture it, met Bill and Oak, then ended up conking it with a Moon Stone in an evolution ceremony. Belongs in the befriended section as Oak and Bill commented that Clefairy taught Ash about something or other. Very metaphorical. --- Aura-Knight 01:24, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

== Protection? ==

Why is this page protected again and why until my birthday (Sept. 30)? --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 22:55, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
:There were multiple reversions over the manga Pokémon list, though none of those involved have actually replied to the above topic... --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 23:32, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
::I'm going to go through with my original plan and unprotect it now. If anyone still wants to put the befriended section in, give your reasons in the section above before editing the article again. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 21:17, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

== Why arent the new sprites for Charmander etc. ==
Why arent the new sprites for Charmander etc used??--[[User:Wowy|Wowy]] 07:13, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
:There aren't any new sprites for Charmander, etc. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 14:48, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
::THere are according to the charmnder page--[[User:Wowy|Wowy]] 06:21, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
:::Then it's just that no one has updated the image yet. [[a:Image:004.png]] is used all over the wiki, not just on this page, you know. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 14:25, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
::::Some butthead uploaded the second frame sprites for a few of the old Pokémon. The Pt sprites for non-Sinnoh dex/non-Gen IV Pokémon did not change. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 17:50, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
:::Who's that nutthead?--[[User:Tavisource/Custom Sprite Project|☆]][[User:Tavisource|Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 22:46, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

{{u|Squirtleman}}--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 22:50, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

== Protect this ==
Please, before the edits ''"OMG Twrtwig evolvezzzz!"'' --[[User:Nick.|Nick.]] 17:07, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

== New thing for trivia ==

Should it be noted that Ash has died at least three times during the series? 1- The episode with the ghost pokemon, "Tower of Terror" I think, the chandelier fell on him and Pikachu. 2- "Mewtwo Strikes Back," he tried to stop the battle between Mew and Mewtwo and was turned to stone by the attacks. 3- "Lucario and the Mystery of Mew," the Tree of Beginning's "immune system" absorbed him. This is worth mentioning![[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 21:16, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
:Not sure if "died" is the right word to use, but I agree, it's worth mentioning. – [[User:RyanCross|'''Ryan'''Cross]] ([[User talk:RyanCross|''talk'']]) 21:17, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
::no, before he was absorbed, Lucario took over. he was fine. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 21:21, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
:::And it was mentioned before, but it was removed a long time ago. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psychic''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]''''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 21:22, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
::::Ash never officially died. He got turned into a ghost temporarily, I don't count that as a death. Turning into stone is not the same thing as dying either. It does sometimes happen in fiction that somebody dies and is recovered back to life by magic, however that did not happen. There was some magic involved when the Pokémon cried at the end of the first movie, but he got turned into stone, that's not the same thing as dying. I have only watched the Lucario movie once, so I'm not sure what to say about that. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 00:48, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::Yeah, technically the tree "removed" him and the humans. It didn't kill them, otherwise Mew wouldn't have been able to revive them, even with the anime physics. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psychic''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]''''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 00:52, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
Um, If you ask me, if you turn into a ghost, you sort of have to be dead. Stone isn't alive, so Ash woldn't be alive if he's turned to stone- hate to tell you, but that's the same as being dead. As for the tree's immune system, that's controversial, just like if Lucario itself died at the end of the movie. I understand that last, but besides that, Ash dies at least a couple of times.[[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 22:40, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
:You make a good point, trolls die when they get turned into stones. (by trolls I mean the creatures, not spammers) Ok, I have to admit, you really managed to outsmart me with your remarks. But I have one question though, if a person freezes, but gets warmed up, would that count as death? [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 22:51, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
Um, not sure, that's more like suspended animation. Unless ice crystals form in the bloodstream.[[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 22:29, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

== Temporary Pokémon ==

In regards to both this and [[Misty]]'s article, where Togepi is below her temporarily borrowed Pokémon, I don't see why Temporary comes before Given away (or in Misty's case Released) Pokémon - I would have thought it neater to group the Pokémon that have actually been officially acquired, as opposed to separating them with Pokémon that have only been briefly utilised (and, presumably, not added to their Pokédex). -[[User:Damien Nightstar|Damien Nightstar]] 12:07, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

==Turtwig evolved!!!!!!!!!!!!!!==
can some one change the turwig to grotle and update turtwigs page cuz it evolved! lol [[User:Ritchie|Ritchie]]
:No it didn't. That's next week's episode. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 14:55, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

::Besides, there's no guarantee that the change will simply be reflecting an evolution. I sense shades of [[EP081|''Pallet Party Panic'']] here...--[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 15:14, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
:::go to serebii.net [[User:Ritchie|Ritchie]]
::::We have that "Until it airs" policy, so we can't edit anything. Anyway, Merrick =/= 100% Confirmed. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 15:18, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

:::::serebii.net jumped the gun on {{TP|May|Glaceon}}, too.

:::::Besides, Bulbapedia's policy is "when it airs" ("it" refers to the episode itself). Not "when it's previewed". As far as we know, Ash's team at the end of the episode could (and probably will) be Pikachu, Staravia, Buizel, Chimchar, and Gliscor with one empty slot (indicating leaving Grotle with the herd). --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 15:22, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
::::::ooo , aight [[User:Ritchie|Ritchie]]
:::::::ASH ISN'T GOING TO RELEASE GROTLE!
:::::::Anyway, we are in exactly the same situation as we were yesterday. The evolution has been confirmed since the Newtype summary was released. Serebii just updated Ash's bio today because we have a picture of it now. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 15:27, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
:Until it airs police. This is not the first time that a preview spoils something important... is it so diffcult to wait a week? We'll have a Grotle, we know. But wait. Just a week. Serebii is Serebii, it has its own rules, and Bulbapedia is Bulbapedia, we just have to wait --[[User:Nick.|Me]], [[User talk:Nick.|myself]] and [[Special:Contributions/Nick.|I]] 15:32, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
::Do I have to remind everyone that Serbii.net is edited by limited amount of people? We cannot guarantee it's correct, sure it has a lot of correct information, but when you see something you know is wrong, you can't just fix it like you can do on this site. This is why I believe "when it airs" policy exists. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 15:51, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
:::wow u guys are soo serious like why would u wait a week if u know its "confirmed" until it airs?? what a f*cked up rule [[User:Ritchie|Ritchie]]
::::Because the world will end if Bulbapedia is ever wrong. Do you want the world to end, no, then wait till it airs. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]]
:::::Seriously, it's only a week away. Is waiting really that hard? You should see some misleading trailers if you haven't already. If preview and a fansite is all the proof you have, then it can't be confirmed, since fansites can be wrong and previews can be misleading. Just wait a one week, patience is important, especially in this case. It's not like you have to wait a month. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 17:18, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
::::::Exactly, I couldnt have put it better TBM, I think we should get a mod to protect the page till next week. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]]
:::::::Confirmation isn't the issue here. Newtype's summaries are reliable. We have the rule because sometimes it is more vague and Turtwig is still a Turtwig at the end of the latest episode.
:::::::But information on Serebii's front page is usually right. The issue there is that it's a secondary source - he has the info because he got it from the same place as us. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 20:32, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
::::::::We knew about Gliscor and Swinub long before they evolved and were captured, you know. We knew Aipom would be evolving in DP060 at the end of DP059. We aren't moving it because the lists are always '''''AS OF THE MOST RECENT JAPANESE EPISODE'''''. The most recent episode was [[DP099]]. Turtwig didn't evolve in that one, ergo, it's Ash's Turtwig. Don't even think of changing it, Ritchie. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 21:01, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

TTE and Fabu, are you agreeing with me and TBM or with Ritchie, we say it shouldnt be on there yet, he says it should. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]]
:"Because the world will end if Bulbapedia is ever wrong. Do you want the world to end, no, then wait till it airs."- then why is there such a thing called previews. it was there for a reason. seeing that will give us the urge to watch it and it also about wraps up what will happen on that episode. clearly the episode preview for the turwig,grotle,torterra episode was on serebii and i dont know why u wouldnt agree. can you give me a reason BESIDES that bulbapedia has to wait ill it airs..can u??? [[User:Ritchie|Ritchie]]
*Well, If you want another reason, I'll give you a reason. Sometime ago, way before [[DP034|Buizel your way out of this]] Aired in Japan, they had a preview showing Ash and Pikachu battling it for almost the entire preview, whileas Dawn and Piplup were seen battling Buizel in only one frame, thus implying at that time that Ash was the one capturing it. So, that's one reason why we have that rule. Actually, now that I think about it, that preview [or rather, Buizel itself] IS the reason why we even have that rule. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 23:31, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
::They are on your side.--[[Bulbapedia:Project Custom Sprite|☆]][[User:Tavisource|Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 23:47, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
:::Ritchie, I already gave you my reasons, and they are not just about policy. Would you mind telling me why you don't agree with that? Really, I'd love to know since it's so important to you that it stays on this page. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 01:05, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

== Name? ==
Do you think it's possible that the English name 'Ash' could have also come from the word 'rash'? Anabel, when translating for Pikachu, did say that sometimes he can act rash, and wasn't it also mentioned in the Pokélantis episode? [[User:Ayla|Ayla]] 22:10, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
:Ash is short for Ashley --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]]
[[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]]
::"Ashley" isn't a reason for the name, unless you think it was chosen with [[EP026]] in mind. His rash attitude is definately an interesting possibility but the examples where it is explicitly mentioned are far later. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 14:51, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
:::Im not trying to argue with you, but Ash is a shortened version for Ashley. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]]
::::Yes it is. But that fact alone isn't the reason 4Kids chose Ash. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 19:01, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::I agree with FabuVinny. And also, GuardianOfEarth, if Ash IS short for Ashley, then why would they pick that name? Is there some kind of reasoning behind that? [[User:Ayla|Ayla]] 19:02, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
::::::I dont know how reliable the source was but I seem to remember it being s'''A'''to'''SH'''i which when the capital letters are rearranged spells Ash. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]]
:::::::Er, Guardian? That source is Bulbapedia. This page, in fact. It says that on the bottom. [[User:Ayla|Ayla]] 22:12, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
:You guys should take it to the forums...to {{u|Ayla}}, that may not be true, as he may have got it from somewhere else, but realized it was posted later on here. [[User:Ht14|''ht'']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 22:14, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
::I think the idea is to add it to the article. The rash thing isn't anything more than trivia, though. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 19:27, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
:::Ash is also short for Ashton... --[[User:Force Fire|Force]] [[User talk:Force Fire|''Fire'']] 07:09, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
Am I the only one who thought it was a connection to the other characters names being based on trees? Oak tree, Ash tree etc [[User:TheAlmightyChris|TheAlmightyChris]] 23:09, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
:I think that Ash's name came from Sacred Ash --[[User:Kamusioso|Kamusioso]]
::Unlikely. That item wasn't introudced until Gen II. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 19:19, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
But Ash saw Ho-oh in the first episode and Sacred Ash is Ho-oh's held item.-Kevin19980609
:Restating what was said above, the Sacred Ash wasn't introduced till GenII. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 21:52, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
::So 4Kids wouldn't have known about it yet. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 21:53, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

== Togepi ==
OK I jest back and now war over Togepi I jest got two words WHO CARES he had egg and Misty got Togepi END OF STORY![[User:XD007DarkRayquaza|XD007DarkRayquaza]] 22:56, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
:Ash found the egg. But the result of "who gets to keep Togepi" was Misty. Ash won the battle but not the prize. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 09:46, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
::No, he won the prize, but gave it to Misty. A'la Beedrill. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 11:53, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
:::He actually captured Beedrill. He didn't give it to Misty, he didn't have a choice. Togepi went to Misty. Besides this was an unoffical contest. As far as it's really known, no one has captured Togepi. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 12:01, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
::::So what he won that match? He didn't even touch Togepi or do anything with it at any time after it hatched. It went directly to Misty by itself. Ash never gave it to her. [[User:Jmath|'''Jm''']][[User talk:Jmath|'''a''']][[Special:Contributions/Jmath|'''th''']] 13:48, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::I think it's Ash who said that he'd give it to Misty. -[[User:Billy4b2004|Billy4b2004]] 03:08, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
::::::Yeah, he said it. But we all saw what happened. Togepi ran to Misty when Ash tried to touch it. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 04:51, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

== Larvitar's egg ==
Why is it different from Donphan's egg? In Donphan case, the word "egg" , the sign "→" and the word "Phanpy" is linked together, why isn't it the same for Larvitar's? And please add a notice on the page if it's protected.-[[User:Billy4b2004|Billy4b2004]] 13:56, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

== Is this Trivial Worth? ==

Ash has captured or had the first poison,grass,fire,flying,water,bug,fighting,normal and electric type pokemon in the pokedex.[[User:Collol|Collol]] 08:58, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
:Why not?--'''[[User:Diby|Di]][[User talk:Diby|b]][[Special:Contributions/Diby|y]]''' 13:11, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
Not really...I think Ash has enough trivia. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 21:21, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
::- on the Normal too, it's either Rattata or Pidgey, and he never captured either. He has, technically, capture the first Pokémon in every dex, which is more notable in my eyes (even though it just means he caught the starters). --- Aura-Knight 03:59, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

== How do I edit his pokemon template? ==

I need to know, since it's been officially confirmed now that Haunter was, indeed, Ash's Pokemon (both the dub and the original version of Haunter vs. Kadabra had Ash and Sabrina saying that Ash "Got" Haunter, implying that it is, officially, his pokemon, and I needed to move Haunter to "Given Away" due to this fact. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 23:55, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
:[[Template:Ash's Pokémon]]--[[Bulbapedia:Project Custom Sprite|☆]][[User:Tavisource|Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 00:03, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
::He never caught it, so it was never his to give away...so it is unofficial. And we've had discussion over this before... majority ruled unofficial. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 00:13, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
:::Even though Ash and Sabrina explicitly used the word "Get" [or the Japanese equivalent] in regards to Ash capturing Haunter in both the original and the dubbed version? Heck, usually when the word capture (or the japanese word get) is used in regards to it, it implies that it's part of the party, and thus an official member. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 00:23, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
::::Capturing means capturing it in a Pokéball. Same with {{AP|Larvitar}}. [[User:Jmath|'''Jm''']][[User talk:Jmath|'''a''']][[Special:Contributions/Jmath|'''th''']] 15:49, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::Then why is [[Misty's Togetic|Togetic/Togepi]] listed as a released pokémon or even an officially captured pokémon? Besides, there are cases where the pokémon is still not yours, even IF you captured it in a Poké Ball. Take [[Brock's Vulpix|Vulpix]], for example. That Pokémon was captured by Brock with a Poké ball, and yet even he said it wasn't even his to begin with. Basically, Haunter is to stay as a given away pokémon, since if even a Gym Leader in both versions referred to Haunter as being Ash's pokémon, having ownership of it, and saying he "got" it, that pretty much confirms that Haunter is officially his pokémon. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 00:51, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

== Well.... ==

Just want to know if this trivia is notable..
:Out of all the Pokémon that Ash owns, the last Pokémon that he has captured in every [[region]] except [[Kanto]] is part of {{DL|evolution|one-evolution families}}, namely {{p|Noctowl}}, {{p|Snorunt}} and {{p|Gligar}}. If the [[Orange Archipelago]] is also included, {{p|Snorlax}} also falls in this category.
[[User:Jmath|'''Jm''']][[User talk:Jmath|'''a''']][[Special:Contributions/Jmath|'''th''']] 21:12, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
:No. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 22:53, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

== I'm going to get decked by Tavisource for this... ==

...But Ash's Squirtle didn't wear the sunglasses that often. Only in a few episodes. If we are not letting Buneary have the vest for the very same reason, then I don't think we should have that sprite for Squirtle. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 20:57, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

:Buneary has only appeared a few times with the vest (although granted, she has only appeared a few times since getting the vest). Squirtle appeared in several major episodes with the glasses, and is assuredly currently wearing them as leader of the Squirtle Squad. [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 21:34, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
::The glasses are a big part of Squirtle's character and far less random than the vest. I personally put the line right there just because the Squirtle is so synonymous with the glasses. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 13:44, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
:::I agree with Vinny. The appearance of Squirtle's sunglasses are directly related to Squirtle's reaction to events. He takes them out when he's taking charge of a situation ([[EP060|Beach Blank-Out Blastoise]]), when his ego feels threatened ([[EP106|The Pokemon Water War]]), or when he wants to appear more threatening ([[Pikachu's Rescue Adventure]]). [[User:Legionaireb|Legionaireb]] 04:58, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

== Reason why I reverted the sprite edit ==

This is what I don't like about the rollback feature...

Anyway, that Chikorita sprite was just unacceptable. Let's use the DPPt version until we find a better one. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 05:37, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

== Champion ==

Why does it say that Ash is a champion? When did he won a pokemon league?(The orange league and the battle frontier are Campionchips, not Leagues).--[[User:Tomas|Tomas]] 12:54, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
:(The '''orange league''' and the battle frontier are Campionchips, not Leagues)
:There you go.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Ho-Oh (Pokémon)|orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Lugia (Pokémon)|ire]] 08:27, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
::It's called "The Orange League". It is a league. Just not a tournament type. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 08:32, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
It says it's a championchip in the article:Ash challenged the following Pokémon '''championships''' as well: List of battles (heavy spoiler)

'''[[Orange League]]''' (Champion)
'''[[Kanto]] [[Battle Frontier]]''' (Champion)
--[[User:Tomas|Tomas]] 13:15, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

== Propensity for Drowning ==

I'm not sure whether this is worth mentioning in the page, but Ash seems to have a knack for either nearly drowning or getting into situations where drowning is a likely possibility. I can think of about 9 instances off the top of my head. A short list includes [[EP016|Pokemon Shipwreck]] (trapped in a capsized ship), [[EP067|the Pi-Kahuna]] (after wiping out in the surf), [[Pokemon Heroes]] (when Oakley tries to stop him from entering the museum), and in [[Pokemon Ranger and the Temple of the Sea]] (when attempting to fix the crystal lattice in the flooded chamber.) Can some others weigh in, please? [[User:Legionaireb|Legionaireb]] 15:47, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
:There was also ''[[Holiday Hi-Jynx]]'' right when Lapras rescued him. And I guess the journey to New Island in Mewtwo Strikes Back. Oh, and the climax of the Second Movie (after Lawrence nearly killed Lugia), as well as when Ash filled Team Rocket's van with Water in the episode where he battled Ritchie. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 17:03, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

:It's just one of his character traits "courage" wich is probably listed in the article (I don't wanna scan the article to see if I'm right). He will do anything to save his allies and the common scenario he gets into is drowning.[[User:Vhayes1992|Vhayes1992]] 02:43, 28 July 2009 that in(UTC)

== Ash's age: A CLEAR EXPLANATION ==

Before you people come up with your opinions on Ash's age, take the time to wonder... Did it ever occur to any of you that this is a cartoon? Let me remind you of another show. You may have heard of it. It's called {{wp|The Simpsons}}. Bart Simpson, a ten year old boy, is one of the main characters. Now the show has been on for like 20 years and yet Bart is still 10. So stop thinking that it's so damn unbelievable that Ash is still ten years old when Bart Simpson has the same case. It's clear in The Simpsons that many years pass by as the kids go to school, get summer vacation, and go to school again, and still remain in the same grade and never age. The mentioning of passing years are mentioned all the time but no one ages.

In a nutshell this is a freakin cartoon people. Therefore they don't have to make the characters age. They may mention that years go by, but that doesn't mean they age. So I don't want any of you coming up with your theories here. Ash is, and will likely stay 10 until the series is over. If you believe otherwise then go to the forums and discuss it. I know that there are animes that age their characters, but Pokémon is NOT one of them. Learn to accept it. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 00:22, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
:Check out ''[[wp:Case Closed|Detective Conan]]''. It's an anime that's been running for longer than Pokémon, constantly references the time of year (with way too many events happing around New Year to make any sense) and yet none of the characters have aged a day.
:[[Aging in the anime]] states our policy on this. It isn't explicitly stated that anyone is any older (and you'd think Ash would mention if it was his birthday in the third Pikachu short) so we go by the only age that is canon. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 15:44, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

==Question about voice actor==

I have a question concerning an edit I'd might to do. In the box where the English voice actors names are it says "Sarah Natochenny (PUSA)". Should it be "Sarah Natochenny (TCPi)"? It's no longer PUSA anymore. [[User:Vhayes1992|Vhayes1992]] 23:52, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

I know what you are talking about but ash's voice actor is still same "Sarah Natochenny" and other voice actors (most of them) are same.
--♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''niz''']]♪♫ 06:02, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
:I mean, should we change it from PUSA to TPCi?-- [[User:Vhayes1992|Vhayes1992]] 06:55, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

I think firstly you have to get permission from the administrators.
--♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''niz''']]♪♫ 06:56, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

== Protect ==

I suggest someone protect this page. at least until DP146 (or DP145, i cant remember which) airs. my reson, because of the posibility of ash catching a Gible in this episode. [[User talk: ShinyPikachu|Shiny]][[User:ShinyPikachu|'''Pika''']] 23:28, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
:Not only this but Dawn, Brock, Jessie, and James also because they all have possibilities of getting Gible. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] '''''[[Special:Contributions/Turtwig_A|Contributions]]''''' '''''[[User talk:Turtwig A|Talk]]''''' 23:30, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
::If someone tries to add it to any of the main characters pages, I will protect them. For now, it'll remain editable. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 23:37, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
:::Excuse me guys, Ash already have 6 pokemon in his team, exceptions are there but use your common sense. --♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''niz''']]♪♫ 04:44, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
::::I agree with you, just hope there is no release and capture in one episode. Most likely not to happen.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 04:46, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::Ya, i hope so. --♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''niz''']]♪♫ 04:52, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::That doesn't mean he can't capture anymore Pokémon. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 04:54, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::::One word: Krabby!!!!!!!!--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 04:55, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::::I said that exceptions are there. --♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''niz''']]♪♫ 04:56, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::I know I just wanted to say that.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 04:58, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::But when he caught Krabby, he wasn't aware that it would be transferred away.--[[Bulbapedia:Project Custom Sprite|☆]][[User:Tavisource|Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 22:03, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

== ash's dad ==

http://www.serebii.net/anime/pictures/shinou/606ps8.shtml

12th row, 2nd picture.

could someone get this pic and post it? it confirms that his dad is not giovonni, oak, or silver, but an unnamed, never before seen man. {{unsigned|WaterUser}}

:[[Iizō and Kane Iino|Those people]] are from Twinleaf Town and are Dawn's neighbors...not from Pallet Town...--[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 22:51, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
::I believe he's talking about the guy with the Rapidash. That is NOT Ash's father. In fact, that guy looks like he's in his teens. God, why do people always jump to conclusions? This confirms nothing. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 02:40, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

:::Besides, the pictures don't line up the same on all displays. I've recently upgraded my monitor to a flat widescreen (with a new tower to go with it), and I'm currently on a 1300x768 resolution. There isn't even a row 12 in that resolution (only 10 rows of three each). --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 03:27, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

I thin that that man in the picture looks a little like '''[[Silver (anime)|Silver]]''', he is hust a bit younger and has slightly shorter hair and diferent clothes.--'''{{wp|Wikipedia|Wiki}}'''[[User:Tomas|''Tomas'']]09:14, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

== Bottom page template ==

The External Links Template seems to be too big.

Can we put in a box that's say

"There are many template. Click "show".

I forgot the link to do that, we should hide it in a box.

--[[User:Ruixiang95|Ruixiang95]] 06:12, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

== Flying-types ==
Perhaps a good idea for the trivia: All of Ash's Flying-type Pokémon are on their final stage, these include: Pidgeot, Noctowl, Swellow, Staraptor, Gliscor, Charizard and Butterfree. [[User:Bigtukker|Bigtukker]] 08:45, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
:Personally I don't think it's notable. Remember that all types must be treated equally.- the same can be said of his Ground, Bug and Ice types, and If you count Aipom's evolution while it was with Dawn, his Normal types as well. Not to mention that there is too much trivia already. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 08:57, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Ash Ketchum/Archive 4

2009-10-04T09:14:33Z

Tomas: /* ash's dad */

<big><big><big>ASH'S AGE IS INDETERMINATE! AS OF EPISODE 1, HE IS 10 AS FAR AS IT'S KNOWN! PLEASE DO NOT POST ABOUT IT!</big></big></big>
== Previous discussions ==
* [[Talk:Ash Ketchum/Archive 1|Archive 1]]
* [[Talk:Ash Ketchum/Archive 2|Archive 2]]
* [[Talk:Ash Ketchum/Archive 3|Archive 3]]

== Trivia ==

In the trivia it says about Ash never catching a Pokemon when he has 6 in his party and then gives many exceptions, hardly a worthy piece of trivia, I would suggest removing it but I am afraid of back-lash from other users, so can anyone give their consensus. [[User:Sailor Earth|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Sailor Earth| of]][[User talk:Sailor Earth| Earth]] 20:27, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
:Krabby was at the beginning, there are 30 of those Tauros and Beedrill went straight to Casey. I think the fact is worth mentioning but I'm not sure how to reword it. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 23:11, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
::If thirty Tauros at once counts as many exceptions... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:59, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

==Ash Sprite==
I made a sprite of Ash: [[Image:Ash_Sprite.png]] I used Lucas (since they are very similar) and changed some features. How is it?--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 20:50, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

I say very good!--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 21:00, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! Kuki, you should talk to my younger brother, [[User:Diamaster|Diamaster]]. Does anyone have anything else for me to make?--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 21:03, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

How about we go through it together? Oh, how about giving [[Mimey]] a broom in its sprite on [[Delia]]'s page?--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 21:05, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

:I'll get to it. Feel free to e-mail me anytime you come with an idea. You are like my manager, or somewhat my boss. This works well.--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 21:07, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Should we start from the beginning?--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 21:14, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

I've just finished [[Mimey|Mimey's]] sprite. I'm ready for the list!--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 21:24, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

: It's good but is there any point of putting that in the Article? --[[User:Force Fire|Force Fire]] 09:37, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
:: Actually, last time we did this to Tyson's Meowth, the Cat got the Boot (Geddit? Geddit? Oh forget it...) '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''10:11 6 Jun 2008'''''
:::I have to agree... the sprites are neat (sort of; I've definitely seen better), but they don't really belong in the articles. Just because a Pokémon dresses differently doesn't mean it's not the same Pokémon. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 05:52, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::::All he was trying to do was give the Pokémon some individuality. I'm not sure I'm for the modified sprites of humans but we should let the Pokémon stay. Especially if they are tweaked just so slightly that it barely makes a difference. Like Ash's Sceptile. You can't say that looked bad. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 06:08, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::I understand that. And I guess the less obtrusive ones are OK (this is all just my opinion, anyway). But don't put "sprite by Taviource" on the pages; that's just advertising, which shouldn't be in the main namespace. It's fine that you put it on the images themselves; that way, people who are interested in the sprites can follow them to you, and people who aren't don't think you're a {{tt|whore|apologies if you find the word offensive}}. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 06:33, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::::::Yeah, that was a little out-of-bounds on his part. Still I think the Pokémon ones are cool.--[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 06:40, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::::I can't say that Sceptile looks bad but I can say that it looks incorrect since it had a different twig to Treecko/Grovyle. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 11:07, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
I'm sorry, but i just dont think that traviource's edits ar good enough.I personally think that they should be put back to normal or if it's allowed, http://pokesho.com/icon.html has really nice personalized sprites.I know there's a copyright rule but if you translate the page it says: Pokemon Icon Collection Freedom to use. Anywway, i dont know, but that was my thought.--Riot464

We want them to b somewhat, actuall mostly based off the games.--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 19:58, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Sweet! Pokemonboy 08:39, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

It looks like you used Red as a scratch, not Lucas. -Metagross72

Remarkable!--adyniz 12:58, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

Yeah it looks like Ash if he were in Pokemon Emerald -Usyflad10

== Sun Stone ==
does anyone know what happened to his sun stone from the bug catching contest? [[User:Mooites|Mooites]] 23:55, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

He used it on a Sunkern in [[EP187]]--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 23:58, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
:Not much of a waste since Misty missed the [[Oddish (Pokémon)|"Water-type"]] she tried to catch in [[EP010]]. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:01, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

== Alternate Sprites ==

Oh, since we're on the subject, let's change the MS sprites too! >.> No, seriously, what difference would it make even if we DID have alternate sprites? The best we could do is {{u|Shiny Noctowl}}, and it's an official sprite. Squirtle appeared mostly without its glasses, thus, GET RID OF THEM. Primape and the belt? Wow! The belt got stuck on him for ten minutes and you already want to put it there??? Seriously, folks, ARE WE USING THE ALTERNATE SPRITES OR WHAT? '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''07:38 7 Jun 2008'''''

: In my opinion, we shouldn't be using these altered sprites. As Optimus35 pointed out, most of these alterations are things that appeared for a few minutes in a few episodes. More importantly, the Bulbapedia is ''not'' a place for fan art. If the artist is trying to showcase their art, the Bulbapedia is not the way to do it. [[User:Trainer-c|Trainer-c]] 12:52, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

:: I concur, sort of. Taivource does seem to be on a "Everyone behold my cool sprites." binge. Kenji-girl seems to like the Treecko-line ones, though (and to be fair, they are good). [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 12:56, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
:::Just because we're an encyclopedia of Pokémon doesn't mean every sprite on every page has to be EXACTLY out of a game, does it? '''[[User:Pachirisulover12|PL]][[User talk:Pachirisulover12|12]]''' 13:00, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::If it was a commonly re-occurring theme, then an alternate sprite singles it out as unique, which could be gathered from what I know about the Treeko and evolutions. [[User:Gywall|Gywall]] 13:01, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

WE ARE USING THE ALTERNATE SPRITES, except for the trainer ones, and I actually might've put the yellow stars on Janina's Onix. And, for example Taisei's Piplup wore the tiara all episode--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 13:05, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

: OH, ARE WE NOW? Thanks for being so open to discussion, Kuki. [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 13:11, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

What's that supposed to mean. And Squirtle's glasses, as leader of the squirtle Squad, he's wearing them all the time probably--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 13:19, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
:''If'' it is a significant part of their character design (eg. Noctowl, Treecko/Grovyle without the flower/Sceptile, maybe Squirtle) it is worth featuring the altered sprites. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 13:30, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Exactly they are not just any ordinary Squirtle, Onix, Piplup, or Dustox, there is a special piece of design that seperates them from the ordinary ones. [[User:Sailor Earth|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Sailor Earth| of]][[User talk:Sailor Earth| Earth]] 17:06, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::Exactly. They each have their own significant and reminds us all about all the good times in the anime.--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 17:10, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Plus, Dustox, Squirtle, Primeape, and Butterfree belong/ed to main characters. And remember how we did an alternate sprite for {{an|May}}'s Venusaur as a Bulbasaur--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 17:16, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::We did?--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 17:19, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Not we, but Bulbapedia as a community. The link is there, hover over Bulbasaur, and voila! PROOF!--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 17:24, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
:For the record, I entirely disagree with the Onix sprite. (She tried cheating one time and then had to wash it off.) But this is Ash's talk page so let's stick to those sprites here. The consensus seems to be to keep the alternate sprites and they don't hurt. Are there any valid reasons to not have them? --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 17:49, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::Also, Grovyle needs to lose the flower and Sceptile's twig needs correcting. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 17:49, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

:::Remember, shortly b4 Grovyle evolved, the flower bloomed? Thus the flower stays!--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 17:53, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

::::It was actually wwhen Meganium used Synthesis--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 17:58, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::But that is the main point against some of the sprites: It was a normal twig for almost the entire time it was on the show. For the character design argument to work, you have to actually show its normal character design. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 18:01, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::::::But what if he changes the twig? Can the sprites stay? '''[[User:Pachirisulover12|PL]][[User talk:Pachirisulover12|12]]''' 18:03, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Yeah, it just needs a little editing. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 18:13, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

::Sceptile can have less attention. But what about Nurse Joy's Chansey with the hat? That also keeps on getting deleted.--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 18:09, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
:::This is not Nurse Joy's page, but that is also a common character design. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 18:13, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::::I fixed Joy's page, and added the Pokémon she gave to Stephanie and her dad in AGO34--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 18:15, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::Alright. Thanks, Fabu-Vinny. Thanks, Kuki....but can I fix the Sceptile sprite?--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 18:29, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Sure, cuz I dunno how--KukiTalk

:This is getting downright ridiculous. What do a few pixels matter? I agree with Squirtle and the Treecko family, but Butterfree with scarf and Primeape with belt? Guys, PLEASE, stop having so many alternate sprites!!!
:And, I thought I removed Grovyle's flower. Please, people. Keep this up and we'll eternally ban you from the archives (and Bulbapedia, I guess...) if you keep reuploading and uploading thesep ics. I know you put much effort into them but...They're putting quite a load on the server. That's why there are 26,570 files in the Archive while we only need 26000. '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''02:16 8 Jun 2008'''''
::I kinda agree, especially because they're low quality sprites. Take it from someone who has been spriting for a long time. They aren't good. tc26 02:20, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

You are totally unfair! The majority of support is for the alternate sprites and then you threaten them with blocking because they don't agree with you. I know we are not the same as Wikipedia but on wiki we have consensus where the majority of support wins, or is this an admin dictatorship. [[User:Sailor Earth|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Sailor Earth| of]][[User talk:Sailor Earth| Earth]] 08:52, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
:You do realise that your 'majority' is completely made out of inexperienced users (Excluding Kuki and PL12, who I consider adequate in MediaWIki skills) who barely know that <nowiki></nowiki> will give you text in Comic Sans. People! In the past year (Let's call it the Jurassic), plenty of things have happened. Several vandal attacks. Several fake vandals (Including this account -anime sweatdrop-). These helped to mature our users. Your 'majority' arrived about the late Cretaceous. You know what would happen if you keep it up? That's right. The {{wp|Cretaceous–Tertiary extinction event}}. Do you want Bulbapedia to overload? Do you want our hard work to fall through the hole? People! If you want to change Bulbapedia's standards, GET YER OWN WIKI!!! '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''06:23 9 Jun 2008'''''
:: Don't be so melodramatic. The community as a whole is keeping a better eye on it than that... [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 11:44, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Kuki is an experienced user???????????????????? [[User:Sailor Earth|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Sailor Earth| of]][[User talk:Sailor Earth| Earth]] 10:03, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Kenji-Girl supports alternate sprites, she is very profesional. [[User:Sailor Earth|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Sailor Earth| of]][[User talk:Sailor Earth| Earth]] 10:04, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

:And your point is? [[User:Crystallucario|~'''Crystal''']][[User talk:Crystallucario|~'''Lucario~''']] 11:21, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

I'd navigated this site before becoming a user--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 14:16, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

My point Crystal, is that earlier the comment was made that only un-experienced users supported these sprites and Kenji-Girl is more profesional than most and has common sense, '''and doesn't jump to conclusions''' which is more than can be said {{tt|for some|Darth Cookie Monster, who I thought was my friend until he started constantly insulting me}} [[User:Sailor Earth|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Sailor Earth| of]][[User talk:Sailor Earth| Earth]] 18:39, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
:I'm an admin and I support some of the sprites...
:But things really need to calm down here. It certainly isn't worth creating a riot over. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 18:58, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
::Thanks and I agree with you now.--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 19:00, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Actually, we should keep the squirtle and butterfree sprites, since that was how they were last seen.--[[User:Starlight the ampharos|Starlight_the_ampharos]] 21:31, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

I concur Ampharos. The squirtle and butterfree sprites should be kept, but not primeape's belt or buneary's vest. We are getting way too far out there..... --[[User:Cat2killer|Catu42]] 22:36, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
:Why is Butterfree more special than Primeape? Also, the argument against the vest has weakened now that Buneary wears it so frequently. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 13:17, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

==That last piece of trivia==

For some reason I can't delete that piece of trivia at he bottom of the list and Ireally need to for one simple reason. Its totally wrong. It can't be a trend of Ash catching a flying type, grass, fire and then water because it happens once! Kanto- bug, flying, grass, fire, water. Thats got bug at the start. Johto- bug, grass, fire, water, flying. Noctowl was caught after cyndaquil and he had heracross. Hoenn- flying, grass, water, fire. Water and fire are the wrong way round. Kanto is a main region and so the battle fronteir arc has only the capture of aipom, a normal tyoe. It can't be a trend if it only happens in 1 region! Because I can't delete it for some reason I implore you to get rid of it. A trend has to happen alot more than once. [[User:TheAlmightyChris|TheAlmightyChris]] 21:55, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

:You can't delete it because Fabu-Vinny protected the page (have a look at the page history). [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 00:34, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. I guessed that was the reason. However that really doesn't stop it being wrong and there [[User:TheAlmightyChris|TheAlmightyChris]] 16:34, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

== Ash dressing up ==

In this article it mentions ash's three times cross dressing and his two time having to dress up as fruit. What it doesn't mention is the number of times he has to dress up as an actual pokemon. I can only remember him being Mr. Mime in 'Mr. Mime Time' and as an Octillery in 'Octillery the Outcast'. Im pretty sure there are a few others, can anyone remember, thnx! I just somehow have feeling there may be a few more beside the one's i have said and the one below {{unsigned|Dragonboy}}
:I remember him dressing up as Seviper to teach Nicolai's Zangoose how to battle with one. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 06:00, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

== Electric Tale of Pikachu - Needed Verification ==

Did ash have a Beedrill in Electric Tale of Pikachu manga? Don't remember it. I think someone spreads fake information. I also don't remember any Mankey traded for a fake map. Can anyone verify these informations? --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 10:43, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

No he did not. However, in the second issue, he caught a Mankey, which he did trade for a map. It wasn't actually fake, just very poorly drawn. [[User:Midnight Celtic|Midnight]][[User talk:Midnight Celtic|Celtic]] 20:36, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

== Agh so close to hitting it... ==

But still under the wondrous 10% of all Pokémon. C'mon, Chimchar, evolve soon! '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:37, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

In the article, it says :
"The most badges Ash has ever gotten in the first thirty-five episodes were five badges in Kanto, which makes sense considering that Kanto was significantly shorter than any other saga (aside from the Orange Island saga and the Battle Frontier saga). In every other region thus far, he has only won two badges in the first thirty-five episodes."
It's wrong : he had 6 badges by EP035, as he won :
Boulder Badge in EP005
Cascade Badge in EP007
Thunder Badge in EP014
Marsh Badge in EP024
Rainbow Badge in EP026
Soul Badge in EP032

== Befriending Movie Pokemon(IMPORTANT) ==

We've discussed this and since May has Manaphy, Max has Jirachi, I think Ash should have Latias and Lucario! Any1 agree?--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 12:36, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
:In none of that discussion has anyone given a decent reason for why the '''list of Pokémon owned by Ash''' should have a section for Pokémon he was simply friendly with. It has to much potential to get out of hand. May's page has had Manaphy removed before and Max is the exception because he doesn't own any Pokémon to begin with. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 18:59, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

:: There should be a befriended part.--[[User:Starlight the ampharos|Starlight_the_ampharos]] 21:36, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
:::No. There should not be a befriended section. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 15:51, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
::::Ash befriends every Pokemon he finds even when it isn't a movie. So no. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 22:01, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::A "'''Pokémon Ash doesn't like'''" section would be more realistic, and that itself certainly wouldn't be worth putting in the article. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 22:52, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

== Matnine Overboard ==
Is it notable that Ash was apparently able to recognize what a Mantine is in "Mantine Overboard" depite having never seen one before? The same thing could be said about Regice in the 8th movie but that could be easily explained; If (off-camera)someone explained Registeel, Regirock, and Regice the only one left was Regice (simple process of elimination). But the Mantine one has me confused. I suppose it's possible Ash saw a Mantine in his past before becoming a trainer. --[[User:Dman dustin|Dman dustin]] 18:27, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Yeah that always happens in the anime. They know Pokemon theyve never mentioned or seen b4. Like James and Carnivine. Whenever they go to a new region Brock already knows all the pokemon and what they evolve into despite never mentioning them in the past. [[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 18:33, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
:Are you two forgetting that Ash saw one in [[EP214]] and another in [[EP256]]? ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 18:34, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

214 is Mantine Overboard, the one Dman Dustin is talking about isnt it? [[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 18:35, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
:Nevermind...That's my fault, (For some reason, I thought he was talking about Steamboat Willies.) ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 18:38, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

::Every time a new batch of Pokémon are created, the anime seems to retcon the fact that they have never existed before. When Gen V Pokémon are revealed, the anime will treat them as if they were there from the beginning. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 18:41, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

:TV, Books, and Pokémon games exist in the pokemon world aswell. Also it's not big brother, things would occur off camera and, chances are, if he did see a Mantine in person, it was being minded by Prof. Oak or something like that.
::No matter how it might look shows never show everything frame-by-frame, and neither do movies. Chances are that Ash could see a lot of Pokémon off-camera. And about Brock, I'd assume that he studies about Pokémon off-camera. Also I have never seen a real-life dragon, but that won't stop me from recognizing one if I ever get the chance of seeing one. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 22:07, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

== 3 of 4 gym leaders thing ==

In the trivia bit it says 3 of the 4 female Gym Leaders have turtle based pokemon like he does. What region are we talking about as there are way more than 4 female Gym Leaders overall. Thankyou for your time. [[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 09:54, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Oh I see, 3 of the 4 gym leaders mentioned in the trivia before. Thankyou for your time. [[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 09:56, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

== Question ==

Do [[Leona]] and [[Nando]] qualify as rivals for Ash? [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 03:44, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
:Nando yes. Leona, no. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 04:43, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

== Hurting a Pokémon ==

I can think of at least two occasions Ash has hurt a Pokémon, Drapion in the Riolu special and Squirtle in EP012 (before he caught it). The Advanced Series/Orange Islands are fuzzy for me, I only remember some of the better episodes, can anyone think of any others? {{unsigned|Aura-Knight}}
:Sign your post please. And why are you talking about the Pokémon he's hurt? Just wondering...[[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 13:25, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
::Also, Aura-Knight, he hurt MEOWTH in EP012, not Squirtle. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 16:41, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

== categorised trivia anyone? ==

maybe an "in universe" and "out of universe" sections to seperate character trivia and behind the scenes trivia. maybe even another section for pokemon owned, there's that many [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 23:08, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

==I hate to open up an old can of worms, but...==
I'm completely against the alternate Primeape and Butterfree sprites. They had the the belt/scarf for less than a whole episode, the episodes they left nonetheless. I think the others are fine since they were frequent parts of their characters (Treecko line's twig, Squirtle's sunglasses somewhat), but the belt and scarf are ridiculous. I'm not going to remove them myself since it's bound to start an edit war, so I'm asking for opinions first. '''~[[User:RR|R]][[User talk:RR|R]]~''' 04:29, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
:What i think it is is that weve got to have the most upto date images. The last time they were seen. So if they came back and didnt have them then the alternate sprites would have to be removed. Its like how on {{an|may}} the pic is of her emerald uniform although she spent loads more time in her Ruby uniform, but the most upto date is Emerald, even if it was only for 3 episodes. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 09:43, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
::And for both, it was a signifigant reason that they left, Brock gave the scarf to Butterfree so it could score a mate, thus triggering its departure. Primeape went away to further its abilities after winning because it only really won by a fluke. Butterfree was seen with the scarf later and Primeape with the belt as well. [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 01:31, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
:::Not quite, Aura Knight. Primeape is seen without the belt in Spurt, which is the most recent appearence of him, which going by Guardian's logic means that the alternate sprite shouldn't be there. '''~[[User:RR|R]][[User talk:RR|R]]~''' 03:53, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
::::I'm going to leave this alone, but Primeape needs to lose <s>some weight</s> that belt. '''[[User:Optimatum|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]]|[[User:Optimatum/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''11:20 27 Aug 2008'''''
:::::Further, the Butterfree in Spurt ''does'' have Brock's scarf. My stance is that it should be a significant part of their character design for it to count. So it looks like Primeape is losing the belt but Butterfree can stay as-is for now. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 13:47, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
::::::i agree with that. thats fair --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 14:00, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

== Manga Clefable ==

While we don't have a befriended section for the anime, we do still list Haunter and Larvitar so precedent can go any way. What is the exact situation for Ash and Clefable in the manga? --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 12:41, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
:{{tt|Well|Responding to clear up any future doubts on this score, and yes, it is an old comment}}, I actually have that section of Electric Tale that I got with the old school VHS tapes. Ash found Clefairy, tried to capture it, met Bill and Oak, then ended up conking it with a Moon Stone in an evolution ceremony. Belongs in the befriended section as Oak and Bill commented that Clefairy taught Ash about something or other. Very metaphorical. --- Aura-Knight 01:24, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

== Protection? ==

Why is this page protected again and why until my birthday (Sept. 30)? --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 22:55, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
:There were multiple reversions over the manga Pokémon list, though none of those involved have actually replied to the above topic... --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 23:32, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
::I'm going to go through with my original plan and unprotect it now. If anyone still wants to put the befriended section in, give your reasons in the section above before editing the article again. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 21:17, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

== Why arent the new sprites for Charmander etc. ==
Why arent the new sprites for Charmander etc used??--[[User:Wowy|Wowy]] 07:13, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
:There aren't any new sprites for Charmander, etc. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 14:48, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
::THere are according to the charmnder page--[[User:Wowy|Wowy]] 06:21, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
:::Then it's just that no one has updated the image yet. [[a:Image:004.png]] is used all over the wiki, not just on this page, you know. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 14:25, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
::::Some butthead uploaded the second frame sprites for a few of the old Pokémon. The Pt sprites for non-Sinnoh dex/non-Gen IV Pokémon did not change. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 17:50, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
:::Who's that nutthead?--[[User:Tavisource/Custom Sprite Project|☆]][[User:Tavisource|Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 22:46, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

{{u|Squirtleman}}--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 22:50, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

== Protect this ==
Please, before the edits ''"OMG Twrtwig evolvezzzz!"'' --[[User:Nick.|Nick.]] 17:07, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

== New thing for trivia ==

Should it be noted that Ash has died at least three times during the series? 1- The episode with the ghost pokemon, "Tower of Terror" I think, the chandelier fell on him and Pikachu. 2- "Mewtwo Strikes Back," he tried to stop the battle between Mew and Mewtwo and was turned to stone by the attacks. 3- "Lucario and the Mystery of Mew," the Tree of Beginning's "immune system" absorbed him. This is worth mentioning![[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 21:16, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
:Not sure if "died" is the right word to use, but I agree, it's worth mentioning. – [[User:RyanCross|'''Ryan'''Cross]] ([[User talk:RyanCross|''talk'']]) 21:17, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
::no, before he was absorbed, Lucario took over. he was fine. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 21:21, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
:::And it was mentioned before, but it was removed a long time ago. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psychic''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]''''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 21:22, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
::::Ash never officially died. He got turned into a ghost temporarily, I don't count that as a death. Turning into stone is not the same thing as dying either. It does sometimes happen in fiction that somebody dies and is recovered back to life by magic, however that did not happen. There was some magic involved when the Pokémon cried at the end of the first movie, but he got turned into stone, that's not the same thing as dying. I have only watched the Lucario movie once, so I'm not sure what to say about that. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 00:48, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::Yeah, technically the tree "removed" him and the humans. It didn't kill them, otherwise Mew wouldn't have been able to revive them, even with the anime physics. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psychic''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]''''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 00:52, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
Um, If you ask me, if you turn into a ghost, you sort of have to be dead. Stone isn't alive, so Ash woldn't be alive if he's turned to stone- hate to tell you, but that's the same as being dead. As for the tree's immune system, that's controversial, just like if Lucario itself died at the end of the movie. I understand that last, but besides that, Ash dies at least a couple of times.[[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 22:40, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
:You make a good point, trolls die when they get turned into stones. (by trolls I mean the creatures, not spammers) Ok, I have to admit, you really managed to outsmart me with your remarks. But I have one question though, if a person freezes, but gets warmed up, would that count as death? [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 22:51, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
Um, not sure, that's more like suspended animation. Unless ice crystals form in the bloodstream.[[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 22:29, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

== Temporary Pokémon ==

In regards to both this and [[Misty]]'s article, where Togepi is below her temporarily borrowed Pokémon, I don't see why Temporary comes before Given away (or in Misty's case Released) Pokémon - I would have thought it neater to group the Pokémon that have actually been officially acquired, as opposed to separating them with Pokémon that have only been briefly utilised (and, presumably, not added to their Pokédex). -[[User:Damien Nightstar|Damien Nightstar]] 12:07, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

==Turtwig evolved!!!!!!!!!!!!!!==
can some one change the turwig to grotle and update turtwigs page cuz it evolved! lol [[User:Ritchie|Ritchie]]
:No it didn't. That's next week's episode. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 14:55, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

::Besides, there's no guarantee that the change will simply be reflecting an evolution. I sense shades of [[EP081|''Pallet Party Panic'']] here...--[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 15:14, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
:::go to serebii.net [[User:Ritchie|Ritchie]]
::::We have that "Until it airs" policy, so we can't edit anything. Anyway, Merrick =/= 100% Confirmed. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 15:18, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

:::::serebii.net jumped the gun on {{TP|May|Glaceon}}, too.

:::::Besides, Bulbapedia's policy is "when it airs" ("it" refers to the episode itself). Not "when it's previewed". As far as we know, Ash's team at the end of the episode could (and probably will) be Pikachu, Staravia, Buizel, Chimchar, and Gliscor with one empty slot (indicating leaving Grotle with the herd). --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 15:22, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
::::::ooo , aight [[User:Ritchie|Ritchie]]
:::::::ASH ISN'T GOING TO RELEASE GROTLE!
:::::::Anyway, we are in exactly the same situation as we were yesterday. The evolution has been confirmed since the Newtype summary was released. Serebii just updated Ash's bio today because we have a picture of it now. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 15:27, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
:Until it airs police. This is not the first time that a preview spoils something important... is it so diffcult to wait a week? We'll have a Grotle, we know. But wait. Just a week. Serebii is Serebii, it has its own rules, and Bulbapedia is Bulbapedia, we just have to wait --[[User:Nick.|Me]], [[User talk:Nick.|myself]] and [[Special:Contributions/Nick.|I]] 15:32, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
::Do I have to remind everyone that Serbii.net is edited by limited amount of people? We cannot guarantee it's correct, sure it has a lot of correct information, but when you see something you know is wrong, you can't just fix it like you can do on this site. This is why I believe "when it airs" policy exists. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 15:51, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
:::wow u guys are soo serious like why would u wait a week if u know its "confirmed" until it airs?? what a f*cked up rule [[User:Ritchie|Ritchie]]
::::Because the world will end if Bulbapedia is ever wrong. Do you want the world to end, no, then wait till it airs. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]]
:::::Seriously, it's only a week away. Is waiting really that hard? You should see some misleading trailers if you haven't already. If preview and a fansite is all the proof you have, then it can't be confirmed, since fansites can be wrong and previews can be misleading. Just wait a one week, patience is important, especially in this case. It's not like you have to wait a month. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 17:18, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
::::::Exactly, I couldnt have put it better TBM, I think we should get a mod to protect the page till next week. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]]
:::::::Confirmation isn't the issue here. Newtype's summaries are reliable. We have the rule because sometimes it is more vague and Turtwig is still a Turtwig at the end of the latest episode.
:::::::But information on Serebii's front page is usually right. The issue there is that it's a secondary source - he has the info because he got it from the same place as us. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 20:32, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
::::::::We knew about Gliscor and Swinub long before they evolved and were captured, you know. We knew Aipom would be evolving in DP060 at the end of DP059. We aren't moving it because the lists are always '''''AS OF THE MOST RECENT JAPANESE EPISODE'''''. The most recent episode was [[DP099]]. Turtwig didn't evolve in that one, ergo, it's Ash's Turtwig. Don't even think of changing it, Ritchie. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 21:01, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

TTE and Fabu, are you agreeing with me and TBM or with Ritchie, we say it shouldnt be on there yet, he says it should. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]]
:"Because the world will end if Bulbapedia is ever wrong. Do you want the world to end, no, then wait till it airs."- then why is there such a thing called previews. it was there for a reason. seeing that will give us the urge to watch it and it also about wraps up what will happen on that episode. clearly the episode preview for the turwig,grotle,torterra episode was on serebii and i dont know why u wouldnt agree. can you give me a reason BESIDES that bulbapedia has to wait ill it airs..can u??? [[User:Ritchie|Ritchie]]
*Well, If you want another reason, I'll give you a reason. Sometime ago, way before [[DP034|Buizel your way out of this]] Aired in Japan, they had a preview showing Ash and Pikachu battling it for almost the entire preview, whileas Dawn and Piplup were seen battling Buizel in only one frame, thus implying at that time that Ash was the one capturing it. So, that's one reason why we have that rule. Actually, now that I think about it, that preview [or rather, Buizel itself] IS the reason why we even have that rule. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 23:31, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
::They are on your side.--[[Bulbapedia:Project Custom Sprite|☆]][[User:Tavisource|Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 23:47, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
:::Ritchie, I already gave you my reasons, and they are not just about policy. Would you mind telling me why you don't agree with that? Really, I'd love to know since it's so important to you that it stays on this page. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 01:05, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

== Name? ==
Do you think it's possible that the English name 'Ash' could have also come from the word 'rash'? Anabel, when translating for Pikachu, did say that sometimes he can act rash, and wasn't it also mentioned in the Pokélantis episode? [[User:Ayla|Ayla]] 22:10, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
:Ash is short for Ashley --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]]
[[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]]
::"Ashley" isn't a reason for the name, unless you think it was chosen with [[EP026]] in mind. His rash attitude is definately an interesting possibility but the examples where it is explicitly mentioned are far later. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 14:51, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
:::Im not trying to argue with you, but Ash is a shortened version for Ashley. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]]
::::Yes it is. But that fact alone isn't the reason 4Kids chose Ash. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 19:01, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::I agree with FabuVinny. And also, GuardianOfEarth, if Ash IS short for Ashley, then why would they pick that name? Is there some kind of reasoning behind that? [[User:Ayla|Ayla]] 19:02, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
::::::I dont know how reliable the source was but I seem to remember it being s'''A'''to'''SH'''i which when the capital letters are rearranged spells Ash. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]]
:::::::Er, Guardian? That source is Bulbapedia. This page, in fact. It says that on the bottom. [[User:Ayla|Ayla]] 22:12, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
:You guys should take it to the forums...to {{u|Ayla}}, that may not be true, as he may have got it from somewhere else, but realized it was posted later on here. [[User:Ht14|''ht'']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 22:14, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
::I think the idea is to add it to the article. The rash thing isn't anything more than trivia, though. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 19:27, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
:::Ash is also short for Ashton... --[[User:Force Fire|Force]] [[User talk:Force Fire|''Fire'']] 07:09, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
Am I the only one who thought it was a connection to the other characters names being based on trees? Oak tree, Ash tree etc [[User:TheAlmightyChris|TheAlmightyChris]] 23:09, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
:I think that Ash's name came from Sacred Ash --[[User:Kamusioso|Kamusioso]]
::Unlikely. That item wasn't introudced until Gen II. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 19:19, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
But Ash saw Ho-oh in the first episode and Sacred Ash is Ho-oh's held item.-Kevin19980609
:Restating what was said above, the Sacred Ash wasn't introduced till GenII. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 21:52, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
::So 4Kids wouldn't have known about it yet. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 21:53, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

== Togepi ==
OK I jest back and now war over Togepi I jest got two words WHO CARES he had egg and Misty got Togepi END OF STORY![[User:XD007DarkRayquaza|XD007DarkRayquaza]] 22:56, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
:Ash found the egg. But the result of "who gets to keep Togepi" was Misty. Ash won the battle but not the prize. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 09:46, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
::No, he won the prize, but gave it to Misty. A'la Beedrill. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 11:53, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
:::He actually captured Beedrill. He didn't give it to Misty, he didn't have a choice. Togepi went to Misty. Besides this was an unoffical contest. As far as it's really known, no one has captured Togepi. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 12:01, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
::::So what he won that match? He didn't even touch Togepi or do anything with it at any time after it hatched. It went directly to Misty by itself. Ash never gave it to her. [[User:Jmath|'''Jm''']][[User talk:Jmath|'''a''']][[Special:Contributions/Jmath|'''th''']] 13:48, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::I think it's Ash who said that he'd give it to Misty. -[[User:Billy4b2004|Billy4b2004]] 03:08, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
::::::Yeah, he said it. But we all saw what happened. Togepi ran to Misty when Ash tried to touch it. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 04:51, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

== Larvitar's egg ==
Why is it different from Donphan's egg? In Donphan case, the word "egg" , the sign "→" and the word "Phanpy" is linked together, why isn't it the same for Larvitar's? And please add a notice on the page if it's protected.-[[User:Billy4b2004|Billy4b2004]] 13:56, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

== Is this Trivial Worth? ==

Ash has captured or had the first poison,grass,fire,flying,water,bug,fighting,normal and electric type pokemon in the pokedex.[[User:Collol|Collol]] 08:58, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
:Why not?--'''[[User:Diby|Di]][[User talk:Diby|b]][[Special:Contributions/Diby|y]]''' 13:11, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
Not really...I think Ash has enough trivia. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 21:21, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
::- on the Normal too, it's either Rattata or Pidgey, and he never captured either. He has, technically, capture the first Pokémon in every dex, which is more notable in my eyes (even though it just means he caught the starters). --- Aura-Knight 03:59, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

== How do I edit his pokemon template? ==

I need to know, since it's been officially confirmed now that Haunter was, indeed, Ash's Pokemon (both the dub and the original version of Haunter vs. Kadabra had Ash and Sabrina saying that Ash "Got" Haunter, implying that it is, officially, his pokemon, and I needed to move Haunter to "Given Away" due to this fact. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 23:55, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
:[[Template:Ash's Pokémon]]--[[Bulbapedia:Project Custom Sprite|☆]][[User:Tavisource|Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 00:03, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
::He never caught it, so it was never his to give away...so it is unofficial. And we've had discussion over this before... majority ruled unofficial. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 00:13, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
:::Even though Ash and Sabrina explicitly used the word "Get" [or the Japanese equivalent] in regards to Ash capturing Haunter in both the original and the dubbed version? Heck, usually when the word capture (or the japanese word get) is used in regards to it, it implies that it's part of the party, and thus an official member. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 00:23, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
::::Capturing means capturing it in a Pokéball. Same with {{AP|Larvitar}}. [[User:Jmath|'''Jm''']][[User talk:Jmath|'''a''']][[Special:Contributions/Jmath|'''th''']] 15:49, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::Then why is [[Misty's Togetic|Togetic/Togepi]] listed as a released pokémon or even an officially captured pokémon? Besides, there are cases where the pokémon is still not yours, even IF you captured it in a Poké Ball. Take [[Brock's Vulpix|Vulpix]], for example. That Pokémon was captured by Brock with a Poké ball, and yet even he said it wasn't even his to begin with. Basically, Haunter is to stay as a given away pokémon, since if even a Gym Leader in both versions referred to Haunter as being Ash's pokémon, having ownership of it, and saying he "got" it, that pretty much confirms that Haunter is officially his pokémon. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 00:51, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

== Well.... ==

Just want to know if this trivia is notable..
:Out of all the Pokémon that Ash owns, the last Pokémon that he has captured in every [[region]] except [[Kanto]] is part of {{DL|evolution|one-evolution families}}, namely {{p|Noctowl}}, {{p|Snorunt}} and {{p|Gligar}}. If the [[Orange Archipelago]] is also included, {{p|Snorlax}} also falls in this category.
[[User:Jmath|'''Jm''']][[User talk:Jmath|'''a''']][[Special:Contributions/Jmath|'''th''']] 21:12, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
:No. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 22:53, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

== I'm going to get decked by Tavisource for this... ==

...But Ash's Squirtle didn't wear the sunglasses that often. Only in a few episodes. If we are not letting Buneary have the vest for the very same reason, then I don't think we should have that sprite for Squirtle. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 20:57, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

:Buneary has only appeared a few times with the vest (although granted, she has only appeared a few times since getting the vest). Squirtle appeared in several major episodes with the glasses, and is assuredly currently wearing them as leader of the Squirtle Squad. [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 21:34, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
::The glasses are a big part of Squirtle's character and far less random than the vest. I personally put the line right there just because the Squirtle is so synonymous with the glasses. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 13:44, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
:::I agree with Vinny. The appearance of Squirtle's sunglasses are directly related to Squirtle's reaction to events. He takes them out when he's taking charge of a situation ([[EP060|Beach Blank-Out Blastoise]]), when his ego feels threatened ([[EP106|The Pokemon Water War]]), or when he wants to appear more threatening ([[Pikachu's Rescue Adventure]]). [[User:Legionaireb|Legionaireb]] 04:58, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

== Reason why I reverted the sprite edit ==

This is what I don't like about the rollback feature...

Anyway, that Chikorita sprite was just unacceptable. Let's use the DPPt version until we find a better one. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 05:37, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

== Champion ==

Why does it say that Ash is a champion? When did he won a pokemon league?(The orange league and the battle frontier are Campionchips, not Leagues).--[[User:Tomas|Tomas]] 12:54, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
:(The '''orange league''' and the battle frontier are Campionchips, not Leagues)
:There you go.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Ho-Oh (Pokémon)|orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Lugia (Pokémon)|ire]] 08:27, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
::It's called "The Orange League". It is a league. Just not a tournament type. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 08:32, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
It says it's a championchip in the article:Ash challenged the following Pokémon '''championships''' as well: List of battles (heavy spoiler)

'''[[Orange League]]''' (Champion)
'''[[Kanto]] [[Battle Frontier]]''' (Champion)
--[[User:Tomas|Tomas]] 13:15, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

== Propensity for Drowning ==

I'm not sure whether this is worth mentioning in the page, but Ash seems to have a knack for either nearly drowning or getting into situations where drowning is a likely possibility. I can think of about 9 instances off the top of my head. A short list includes [[EP016|Pokemon Shipwreck]] (trapped in a capsized ship), [[EP067|the Pi-Kahuna]] (after wiping out in the surf), [[Pokemon Heroes]] (when Oakley tries to stop him from entering the museum), and in [[Pokemon Ranger and the Temple of the Sea]] (when attempting to fix the crystal lattice in the flooded chamber.) Can some others weigh in, please? [[User:Legionaireb|Legionaireb]] 15:47, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
:There was also ''[[Holiday Hi-Jynx]]'' right when Lapras rescued him. And I guess the journey to New Island in Mewtwo Strikes Back. Oh, and the climax of the Second Movie (after Lawrence nearly killed Lugia), as well as when Ash filled Team Rocket's van with Water in the episode where he battled Ritchie. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 17:03, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

:It's just one of his character traits "courage" wich is probably listed in the article (I don't wanna scan the article to see if I'm right). He will do anything to save his allies and the common scenario he gets into is drowning.[[User:Vhayes1992|Vhayes1992]] 02:43, 28 July 2009 that in(UTC)

== Ash's age: A CLEAR EXPLANATION ==

Before you people come up with your opinions on Ash's age, take the time to wonder... Did it ever occur to any of you that this is a cartoon? Let me remind you of another show. You may have heard of it. It's called {{wp|The Simpsons}}. Bart Simpson, a ten year old boy, is one of the main characters. Now the show has been on for like 20 years and yet Bart is still 10. So stop thinking that it's so damn unbelievable that Ash is still ten years old when Bart Simpson has the same case. It's clear in The Simpsons that many years pass by as the kids go to school, get summer vacation, and go to school again, and still remain in the same grade and never age. The mentioning of passing years are mentioned all the time but no one ages.

In a nutshell this is a freakin cartoon people. Therefore they don't have to make the characters age. They may mention that years go by, but that doesn't mean they age. So I don't want any of you coming up with your theories here. Ash is, and will likely stay 10 until the series is over. If you believe otherwise then go to the forums and discuss it. I know that there are animes that age their characters, but Pokémon is NOT one of them. Learn to accept it. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 00:22, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
:Check out ''[[wp:Case Closed|Detective Conan]]''. It's an anime that's been running for longer than Pokémon, constantly references the time of year (with way too many events happing around New Year to make any sense) and yet none of the characters have aged a day.
:[[Aging in the anime]] states our policy on this. It isn't explicitly stated that anyone is any older (and you'd think Ash would mention if it was his birthday in the third Pikachu short) so we go by the only age that is canon. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 15:44, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

==Question about voice actor==

I have a question concerning an edit I'd might to do. In the box where the English voice actors names are it says "Sarah Natochenny (PUSA)". Should it be "Sarah Natochenny (TCPi)"? It's no longer PUSA anymore. [[User:Vhayes1992|Vhayes1992]] 23:52, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

I know what you are talking about but ash's voice actor is still same "Sarah Natochenny" and other voice actors (most of them) are same.
--♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''niz''']]♪♫ 06:02, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
:I mean, should we change it from PUSA to TPCi?-- [[User:Vhayes1992|Vhayes1992]] 06:55, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

I think firstly you have to get permission from the administrators.
--♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''niz''']]♪♫ 06:56, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

== Protect ==

I suggest someone protect this page. at least until DP146 (or DP145, i cant remember which) airs. my reson, because of the posibility of ash catching a Gible in this episode. [[User talk: ShinyPikachu|Shiny]][[User:ShinyPikachu|'''Pika''']] 23:28, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
:Not only this but Dawn, Brock, Jessie, and James also because they all have possibilities of getting Gible. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] '''''[[Special:Contributions/Turtwig_A|Contributions]]''''' '''''[[User talk:Turtwig A|Talk]]''''' 23:30, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
::If someone tries to add it to any of the main characters pages, I will protect them. For now, it'll remain editable. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 23:37, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
:::Excuse me guys, Ash already have 6 pokemon in his team, exceptions are there but use your common sense. --♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''niz''']]♪♫ 04:44, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
::::I agree with you, just hope there is no release and capture in one episode. Most likely not to happen.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 04:46, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::Ya, i hope so. --♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''niz''']]♪♫ 04:52, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::That doesn't mean he can't capture anymore Pokémon. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 04:54, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::::One word: Krabby!!!!!!!!--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 04:55, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::::I said that exceptions are there. --♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''niz''']]♪♫ 04:56, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::I know I just wanted to say that.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 04:58, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::But when he caught Krabby, he wasn't aware that it would be transferred away.--[[Bulbapedia:Project Custom Sprite|☆]][[User:Tavisource|Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 22:03, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

== ash's dad ==

http://www.serebii.net/anime/pictures/shinou/606ps8.shtml

12th row, 2nd picture.

could someone get this pic and post it? it confirms that his dad is not giovonni, oak, or silver, but an unnamed, never before seen man. {{unsigned|WaterUser}}

:[[Iizō and Kane Iino|Those people]] are from Twinleaf Town and are Dawn's neighbors...not from Pallet Town...--[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 22:51, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
::I believe he's talking about the guy with the Rapidash. That is NOT Ash's father. In fact, that guy looks like he's in his teens. God, why do people always jump to conclusions? This confirms nothing. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 02:40, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

:::Besides, the pictures don't line up the same on all displays. I've recently upgraded my monitor to a flat widescreen (with a new tower to go with it), and I'm currently on a 1300x768 resolution. There isn't even a row 12 in that resolution (only 10 rows of three each). --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 03:27, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

I thin that that man in the picture looks a little like '''[[Silver (anime)|Silver]]''', he is hust a bit younger, has slightly shorter hair and diferent clothes.--'''{{wp|Wikipedia|Wiki}}'''[[User:Tomas|''Tomas'']]
09:14, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

== Bottom page template ==

The External Links Template seems to be too big.

Can we put in a box that's say

"There are many template. Click "show".

I forgot the link to do that, we should hide it in a box.

--[[User:Ruixiang95|Ruixiang95]] 06:12, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

== Flying-types ==
Perhaps a good idea for the trivia: All of Ash's Flying-type Pokémon are on their final stage, these include: Pidgeot, Noctowl, Swellow, Staraptor, Gliscor, Charizard and Butterfree. [[User:Bigtukker|Bigtukker]] 08:45, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
:Personally I don't think it's notable. Remember that all types must be treated equally.- the same can be said of his Ground, Bug and Ice types, and If you count Aipom's evolution while it was with Dawn, his Normal types as well. Not to mention that there is too much trivia already. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 08:57, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Ash Ketchum/Archive 4

2009-10-04T09:14:03Z

Tomas: /* ash's dad */

<big><big><big>ASH'S AGE IS INDETERMINATE! AS OF EPISODE 1, HE IS 10 AS FAR AS IT'S KNOWN! PLEASE DO NOT POST ABOUT IT!</big></big></big>
== Previous discussions ==
* [[Talk:Ash Ketchum/Archive 1|Archive 1]]
* [[Talk:Ash Ketchum/Archive 2|Archive 2]]
* [[Talk:Ash Ketchum/Archive 3|Archive 3]]

== Trivia ==

In the trivia it says about Ash never catching a Pokemon when he has 6 in his party and then gives many exceptions, hardly a worthy piece of trivia, I would suggest removing it but I am afraid of back-lash from other users, so can anyone give their consensus. [[User:Sailor Earth|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Sailor Earth| of]][[User talk:Sailor Earth| Earth]] 20:27, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
:Krabby was at the beginning, there are 30 of those Tauros and Beedrill went straight to Casey. I think the fact is worth mentioning but I'm not sure how to reword it. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 23:11, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
::If thirty Tauros at once counts as many exceptions... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:59, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

==Ash Sprite==
I made a sprite of Ash: [[Image:Ash_Sprite.png]] I used Lucas (since they are very similar) and changed some features. How is it?--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 20:50, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

I say very good!--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 21:00, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! Kuki, you should talk to my younger brother, [[User:Diamaster|Diamaster]]. Does anyone have anything else for me to make?--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 21:03, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

How about we go through it together? Oh, how about giving [[Mimey]] a broom in its sprite on [[Delia]]'s page?--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 21:05, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

:I'll get to it. Feel free to e-mail me anytime you come with an idea. You are like my manager, or somewhat my boss. This works well.--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 21:07, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Should we start from the beginning?--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 21:14, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

I've just finished [[Mimey|Mimey's]] sprite. I'm ready for the list!--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 21:24, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

: It's good but is there any point of putting that in the Article? --[[User:Force Fire|Force Fire]] 09:37, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
:: Actually, last time we did this to Tyson's Meowth, the Cat got the Boot (Geddit? Geddit? Oh forget it...) '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''10:11 6 Jun 2008'''''
:::I have to agree... the sprites are neat (sort of; I've definitely seen better), but they don't really belong in the articles. Just because a Pokémon dresses differently doesn't mean it's not the same Pokémon. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 05:52, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::::All he was trying to do was give the Pokémon some individuality. I'm not sure I'm for the modified sprites of humans but we should let the Pokémon stay. Especially if they are tweaked just so slightly that it barely makes a difference. Like Ash's Sceptile. You can't say that looked bad. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 06:08, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::I understand that. And I guess the less obtrusive ones are OK (this is all just my opinion, anyway). But don't put "sprite by Taviource" on the pages; that's just advertising, which shouldn't be in the main namespace. It's fine that you put it on the images themselves; that way, people who are interested in the sprites can follow them to you, and people who aren't don't think you're a {{tt|whore|apologies if you find the word offensive}}. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 06:33, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::::::Yeah, that was a little out-of-bounds on his part. Still I think the Pokémon ones are cool.--[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 06:40, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::::I can't say that Sceptile looks bad but I can say that it looks incorrect since it had a different twig to Treecko/Grovyle. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 11:07, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
I'm sorry, but i just dont think that traviource's edits ar good enough.I personally think that they should be put back to normal or if it's allowed, http://pokesho.com/icon.html has really nice personalized sprites.I know there's a copyright rule but if you translate the page it says: Pokemon Icon Collection Freedom to use. Anywway, i dont know, but that was my thought.--Riot464

We want them to b somewhat, actuall mostly based off the games.--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 19:58, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Sweet! Pokemonboy 08:39, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

It looks like you used Red as a scratch, not Lucas. -Metagross72

Remarkable!--adyniz 12:58, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

Yeah it looks like Ash if he were in Pokemon Emerald -Usyflad10

== Sun Stone ==
does anyone know what happened to his sun stone from the bug catching contest? [[User:Mooites|Mooites]] 23:55, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

He used it on a Sunkern in [[EP187]]--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 23:58, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
:Not much of a waste since Misty missed the [[Oddish (Pokémon)|"Water-type"]] she tried to catch in [[EP010]]. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:01, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

== Alternate Sprites ==

Oh, since we're on the subject, let's change the MS sprites too! >.> No, seriously, what difference would it make even if we DID have alternate sprites? The best we could do is {{u|Shiny Noctowl}}, and it's an official sprite. Squirtle appeared mostly without its glasses, thus, GET RID OF THEM. Primape and the belt? Wow! The belt got stuck on him for ten minutes and you already want to put it there??? Seriously, folks, ARE WE USING THE ALTERNATE SPRITES OR WHAT? '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''07:38 7 Jun 2008'''''

: In my opinion, we shouldn't be using these altered sprites. As Optimus35 pointed out, most of these alterations are things that appeared for a few minutes in a few episodes. More importantly, the Bulbapedia is ''not'' a place for fan art. If the artist is trying to showcase their art, the Bulbapedia is not the way to do it. [[User:Trainer-c|Trainer-c]] 12:52, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

:: I concur, sort of. Taivource does seem to be on a "Everyone behold my cool sprites." binge. Kenji-girl seems to like the Treecko-line ones, though (and to be fair, they are good). [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 12:56, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
:::Just because we're an encyclopedia of Pokémon doesn't mean every sprite on every page has to be EXACTLY out of a game, does it? '''[[User:Pachirisulover12|PL]][[User talk:Pachirisulover12|12]]''' 13:00, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::If it was a commonly re-occurring theme, then an alternate sprite singles it out as unique, which could be gathered from what I know about the Treeko and evolutions. [[User:Gywall|Gywall]] 13:01, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

WE ARE USING THE ALTERNATE SPRITES, except for the trainer ones, and I actually might've put the yellow stars on Janina's Onix. And, for example Taisei's Piplup wore the tiara all episode--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 13:05, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

: OH, ARE WE NOW? Thanks for being so open to discussion, Kuki. [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 13:11, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

What's that supposed to mean. And Squirtle's glasses, as leader of the squirtle Squad, he's wearing them all the time probably--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 13:19, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
:''If'' it is a significant part of their character design (eg. Noctowl, Treecko/Grovyle without the flower/Sceptile, maybe Squirtle) it is worth featuring the altered sprites. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 13:30, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Exactly they are not just any ordinary Squirtle, Onix, Piplup, or Dustox, there is a special piece of design that seperates them from the ordinary ones. [[User:Sailor Earth|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Sailor Earth| of]][[User talk:Sailor Earth| Earth]] 17:06, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::Exactly. They each have their own significant and reminds us all about all the good times in the anime.--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 17:10, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Plus, Dustox, Squirtle, Primeape, and Butterfree belong/ed to main characters. And remember how we did an alternate sprite for {{an|May}}'s Venusaur as a Bulbasaur--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 17:16, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::We did?--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 17:19, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Not we, but Bulbapedia as a community. The link is there, hover over Bulbasaur, and voila! PROOF!--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 17:24, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
:For the record, I entirely disagree with the Onix sprite. (She tried cheating one time and then had to wash it off.) But this is Ash's talk page so let's stick to those sprites here. The consensus seems to be to keep the alternate sprites and they don't hurt. Are there any valid reasons to not have them? --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 17:49, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::Also, Grovyle needs to lose the flower and Sceptile's twig needs correcting. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 17:49, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

:::Remember, shortly b4 Grovyle evolved, the flower bloomed? Thus the flower stays!--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 17:53, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

::::It was actually wwhen Meganium used Synthesis--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 17:58, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::But that is the main point against some of the sprites: It was a normal twig for almost the entire time it was on the show. For the character design argument to work, you have to actually show its normal character design. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 18:01, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::::::But what if he changes the twig? Can the sprites stay? '''[[User:Pachirisulover12|PL]][[User talk:Pachirisulover12|12]]''' 18:03, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Yeah, it just needs a little editing. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 18:13, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

::Sceptile can have less attention. But what about Nurse Joy's Chansey with the hat? That also keeps on getting deleted.--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 18:09, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
:::This is not Nurse Joy's page, but that is also a common character design. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 18:13, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::::I fixed Joy's page, and added the Pokémon she gave to Stephanie and her dad in AGO34--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 18:15, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::Alright. Thanks, Fabu-Vinny. Thanks, Kuki....but can I fix the Sceptile sprite?--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 18:29, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Sure, cuz I dunno how--KukiTalk

:This is getting downright ridiculous. What do a few pixels matter? I agree with Squirtle and the Treecko family, but Butterfree with scarf and Primeape with belt? Guys, PLEASE, stop having so many alternate sprites!!!
:And, I thought I removed Grovyle's flower. Please, people. Keep this up and we'll eternally ban you from the archives (and Bulbapedia, I guess...) if you keep reuploading and uploading thesep ics. I know you put much effort into them but...They're putting quite a load on the server. That's why there are 26,570 files in the Archive while we only need 26000. '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''02:16 8 Jun 2008'''''
::I kinda agree, especially because they're low quality sprites. Take it from someone who has been spriting for a long time. They aren't good. tc26 02:20, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

You are totally unfair! The majority of support is for the alternate sprites and then you threaten them with blocking because they don't agree with you. I know we are not the same as Wikipedia but on wiki we have consensus where the majority of support wins, or is this an admin dictatorship. [[User:Sailor Earth|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Sailor Earth| of]][[User talk:Sailor Earth| Earth]] 08:52, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
:You do realise that your 'majority' is completely made out of inexperienced users (Excluding Kuki and PL12, who I consider adequate in MediaWIki skills) who barely know that <nowiki></nowiki> will give you text in Comic Sans. People! In the past year (Let's call it the Jurassic), plenty of things have happened. Several vandal attacks. Several fake vandals (Including this account -anime sweatdrop-). These helped to mature our users. Your 'majority' arrived about the late Cretaceous. You know what would happen if you keep it up? That's right. The {{wp|Cretaceous–Tertiary extinction event}}. Do you want Bulbapedia to overload? Do you want our hard work to fall through the hole? People! If you want to change Bulbapedia's standards, GET YER OWN WIKI!!! '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''06:23 9 Jun 2008'''''
:: Don't be so melodramatic. The community as a whole is keeping a better eye on it than that... [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 11:44, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Kuki is an experienced user???????????????????? [[User:Sailor Earth|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Sailor Earth| of]][[User talk:Sailor Earth| Earth]] 10:03, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Kenji-Girl supports alternate sprites, she is very profesional. [[User:Sailor Earth|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Sailor Earth| of]][[User talk:Sailor Earth| Earth]] 10:04, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

:And your point is? [[User:Crystallucario|~'''Crystal''']][[User talk:Crystallucario|~'''Lucario~''']] 11:21, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

I'd navigated this site before becoming a user--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 14:16, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

My point Crystal, is that earlier the comment was made that only un-experienced users supported these sprites and Kenji-Girl is more profesional than most and has common sense, '''and doesn't jump to conclusions''' which is more than can be said {{tt|for some|Darth Cookie Monster, who I thought was my friend until he started constantly insulting me}} [[User:Sailor Earth|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Sailor Earth| of]][[User talk:Sailor Earth| Earth]] 18:39, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
:I'm an admin and I support some of the sprites...
:But things really need to calm down here. It certainly isn't worth creating a riot over. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 18:58, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
::Thanks and I agree with you now.--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 19:00, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Actually, we should keep the squirtle and butterfree sprites, since that was how they were last seen.--[[User:Starlight the ampharos|Starlight_the_ampharos]] 21:31, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

I concur Ampharos. The squirtle and butterfree sprites should be kept, but not primeape's belt or buneary's vest. We are getting way too far out there..... --[[User:Cat2killer|Catu42]] 22:36, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
:Why is Butterfree more special than Primeape? Also, the argument against the vest has weakened now that Buneary wears it so frequently. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 13:17, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

==That last piece of trivia==

For some reason I can't delete that piece of trivia at he bottom of the list and Ireally need to for one simple reason. Its totally wrong. It can't be a trend of Ash catching a flying type, grass, fire and then water because it happens once! Kanto- bug, flying, grass, fire, water. Thats got bug at the start. Johto- bug, grass, fire, water, flying. Noctowl was caught after cyndaquil and he had heracross. Hoenn- flying, grass, water, fire. Water and fire are the wrong way round. Kanto is a main region and so the battle fronteir arc has only the capture of aipom, a normal tyoe. It can't be a trend if it only happens in 1 region! Because I can't delete it for some reason I implore you to get rid of it. A trend has to happen alot more than once. [[User:TheAlmightyChris|TheAlmightyChris]] 21:55, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

:You can't delete it because Fabu-Vinny protected the page (have a look at the page history). [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 00:34, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. I guessed that was the reason. However that really doesn't stop it being wrong and there [[User:TheAlmightyChris|TheAlmightyChris]] 16:34, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

== Ash dressing up ==

In this article it mentions ash's three times cross dressing and his two time having to dress up as fruit. What it doesn't mention is the number of times he has to dress up as an actual pokemon. I can only remember him being Mr. Mime in 'Mr. Mime Time' and as an Octillery in 'Octillery the Outcast'. Im pretty sure there are a few others, can anyone remember, thnx! I just somehow have feeling there may be a few more beside the one's i have said and the one below {{unsigned|Dragonboy}}
:I remember him dressing up as Seviper to teach Nicolai's Zangoose how to battle with one. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 06:00, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

== Electric Tale of Pikachu - Needed Verification ==

Did ash have a Beedrill in Electric Tale of Pikachu manga? Don't remember it. I think someone spreads fake information. I also don't remember any Mankey traded for a fake map. Can anyone verify these informations? --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 10:43, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

No he did not. However, in the second issue, he caught a Mankey, which he did trade for a map. It wasn't actually fake, just very poorly drawn. [[User:Midnight Celtic|Midnight]][[User talk:Midnight Celtic|Celtic]] 20:36, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

== Agh so close to hitting it... ==

But still under the wondrous 10% of all Pokémon. C'mon, Chimchar, evolve soon! '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:37, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

In the article, it says :
"The most badges Ash has ever gotten in the first thirty-five episodes were five badges in Kanto, which makes sense considering that Kanto was significantly shorter than any other saga (aside from the Orange Island saga and the Battle Frontier saga). In every other region thus far, he has only won two badges in the first thirty-five episodes."
It's wrong : he had 6 badges by EP035, as he won :
Boulder Badge in EP005
Cascade Badge in EP007
Thunder Badge in EP014
Marsh Badge in EP024
Rainbow Badge in EP026
Soul Badge in EP032

== Befriending Movie Pokemon(IMPORTANT) ==

We've discussed this and since May has Manaphy, Max has Jirachi, I think Ash should have Latias and Lucario! Any1 agree?--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 12:36, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
:In none of that discussion has anyone given a decent reason for why the '''list of Pokémon owned by Ash''' should have a section for Pokémon he was simply friendly with. It has to much potential to get out of hand. May's page has had Manaphy removed before and Max is the exception because he doesn't own any Pokémon to begin with. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 18:59, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

:: There should be a befriended part.--[[User:Starlight the ampharos|Starlight_the_ampharos]] 21:36, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
:::No. There should not be a befriended section. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 15:51, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
::::Ash befriends every Pokemon he finds even when it isn't a movie. So no. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 22:01, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::A "'''Pokémon Ash doesn't like'''" section would be more realistic, and that itself certainly wouldn't be worth putting in the article. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 22:52, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

== Matnine Overboard ==
Is it notable that Ash was apparently able to recognize what a Mantine is in "Mantine Overboard" depite having never seen one before? The same thing could be said about Regice in the 8th movie but that could be easily explained; If (off-camera)someone explained Registeel, Regirock, and Regice the only one left was Regice (simple process of elimination). But the Mantine one has me confused. I suppose it's possible Ash saw a Mantine in his past before becoming a trainer. --[[User:Dman dustin|Dman dustin]] 18:27, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Yeah that always happens in the anime. They know Pokemon theyve never mentioned or seen b4. Like James and Carnivine. Whenever they go to a new region Brock already knows all the pokemon and what they evolve into despite never mentioning them in the past. [[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 18:33, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
:Are you two forgetting that Ash saw one in [[EP214]] and another in [[EP256]]? ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 18:34, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

214 is Mantine Overboard, the one Dman Dustin is talking about isnt it? [[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 18:35, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
:Nevermind...That's my fault, (For some reason, I thought he was talking about Steamboat Willies.) ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 18:38, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

::Every time a new batch of Pokémon are created, the anime seems to retcon the fact that they have never existed before. When Gen V Pokémon are revealed, the anime will treat them as if they were there from the beginning. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 18:41, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

:TV, Books, and Pokémon games exist in the pokemon world aswell. Also it's not big brother, things would occur off camera and, chances are, if he did see a Mantine in person, it was being minded by Prof. Oak or something like that.
::No matter how it might look shows never show everything frame-by-frame, and neither do movies. Chances are that Ash could see a lot of Pokémon off-camera. And about Brock, I'd assume that he studies about Pokémon off-camera. Also I have never seen a real-life dragon, but that won't stop me from recognizing one if I ever get the chance of seeing one. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 22:07, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

== 3 of 4 gym leaders thing ==

In the trivia bit it says 3 of the 4 female Gym Leaders have turtle based pokemon like he does. What region are we talking about as there are way more than 4 female Gym Leaders overall. Thankyou for your time. [[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 09:54, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Oh I see, 3 of the 4 gym leaders mentioned in the trivia before. Thankyou for your time. [[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 09:56, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

== Question ==

Do [[Leona]] and [[Nando]] qualify as rivals for Ash? [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 03:44, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
:Nando yes. Leona, no. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 04:43, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

== Hurting a Pokémon ==

I can think of at least two occasions Ash has hurt a Pokémon, Drapion in the Riolu special and Squirtle in EP012 (before he caught it). The Advanced Series/Orange Islands are fuzzy for me, I only remember some of the better episodes, can anyone think of any others? {{unsigned|Aura-Knight}}
:Sign your post please. And why are you talking about the Pokémon he's hurt? Just wondering...[[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 13:25, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
::Also, Aura-Knight, he hurt MEOWTH in EP012, not Squirtle. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 16:41, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

== categorised trivia anyone? ==

maybe an "in universe" and "out of universe" sections to seperate character trivia and behind the scenes trivia. maybe even another section for pokemon owned, there's that many [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 23:08, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

==I hate to open up an old can of worms, but...==
I'm completely against the alternate Primeape and Butterfree sprites. They had the the belt/scarf for less than a whole episode, the episodes they left nonetheless. I think the others are fine since they were frequent parts of their characters (Treecko line's twig, Squirtle's sunglasses somewhat), but the belt and scarf are ridiculous. I'm not going to remove them myself since it's bound to start an edit war, so I'm asking for opinions first. '''~[[User:RR|R]][[User talk:RR|R]]~''' 04:29, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
:What i think it is is that weve got to have the most upto date images. The last time they were seen. So if they came back and didnt have them then the alternate sprites would have to be removed. Its like how on {{an|may}} the pic is of her emerald uniform although she spent loads more time in her Ruby uniform, but the most upto date is Emerald, even if it was only for 3 episodes. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 09:43, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
::And for both, it was a signifigant reason that they left, Brock gave the scarf to Butterfree so it could score a mate, thus triggering its departure. Primeape went away to further its abilities after winning because it only really won by a fluke. Butterfree was seen with the scarf later and Primeape with the belt as well. [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 01:31, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
:::Not quite, Aura Knight. Primeape is seen without the belt in Spurt, which is the most recent appearence of him, which going by Guardian's logic means that the alternate sprite shouldn't be there. '''~[[User:RR|R]][[User talk:RR|R]]~''' 03:53, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
::::I'm going to leave this alone, but Primeape needs to lose <s>some weight</s> that belt. '''[[User:Optimatum|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]]|[[User:Optimatum/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''11:20 27 Aug 2008'''''
:::::Further, the Butterfree in Spurt ''does'' have Brock's scarf. My stance is that it should be a significant part of their character design for it to count. So it looks like Primeape is losing the belt but Butterfree can stay as-is for now. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 13:47, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
::::::i agree with that. thats fair --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 14:00, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

== Manga Clefable ==

While we don't have a befriended section for the anime, we do still list Haunter and Larvitar so precedent can go any way. What is the exact situation for Ash and Clefable in the manga? --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 12:41, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
:{{tt|Well|Responding to clear up any future doubts on this score, and yes, it is an old comment}}, I actually have that section of Electric Tale that I got with the old school VHS tapes. Ash found Clefairy, tried to capture it, met Bill and Oak, then ended up conking it with a Moon Stone in an evolution ceremony. Belongs in the befriended section as Oak and Bill commented that Clefairy taught Ash about something or other. Very metaphorical. --- Aura-Knight 01:24, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

== Protection? ==

Why is this page protected again and why until my birthday (Sept. 30)? --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 22:55, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
:There were multiple reversions over the manga Pokémon list, though none of those involved have actually replied to the above topic... --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 23:32, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
::I'm going to go through with my original plan and unprotect it now. If anyone still wants to put the befriended section in, give your reasons in the section above before editing the article again. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 21:17, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

== Why arent the new sprites for Charmander etc. ==
Why arent the new sprites for Charmander etc used??--[[User:Wowy|Wowy]] 07:13, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
:There aren't any new sprites for Charmander, etc. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 14:48, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
::THere are according to the charmnder page--[[User:Wowy|Wowy]] 06:21, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
:::Then it's just that no one has updated the image yet. [[a:Image:004.png]] is used all over the wiki, not just on this page, you know. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 14:25, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
::::Some butthead uploaded the second frame sprites for a few of the old Pokémon. The Pt sprites for non-Sinnoh dex/non-Gen IV Pokémon did not change. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 17:50, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
:::Who's that nutthead?--[[User:Tavisource/Custom Sprite Project|☆]][[User:Tavisource|Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 22:46, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

{{u|Squirtleman}}--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 22:50, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

== Protect this ==
Please, before the edits ''"OMG Twrtwig evolvezzzz!"'' --[[User:Nick.|Nick.]] 17:07, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

== New thing for trivia ==

Should it be noted that Ash has died at least three times during the series? 1- The episode with the ghost pokemon, "Tower of Terror" I think, the chandelier fell on him and Pikachu. 2- "Mewtwo Strikes Back," he tried to stop the battle between Mew and Mewtwo and was turned to stone by the attacks. 3- "Lucario and the Mystery of Mew," the Tree of Beginning's "immune system" absorbed him. This is worth mentioning![[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 21:16, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
:Not sure if "died" is the right word to use, but I agree, it's worth mentioning. – [[User:RyanCross|'''Ryan'''Cross]] ([[User talk:RyanCross|''talk'']]) 21:17, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
::no, before he was absorbed, Lucario took over. he was fine. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 21:21, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
:::And it was mentioned before, but it was removed a long time ago. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psychic''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]''''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 21:22, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
::::Ash never officially died. He got turned into a ghost temporarily, I don't count that as a death. Turning into stone is not the same thing as dying either. It does sometimes happen in fiction that somebody dies and is recovered back to life by magic, however that did not happen. There was some magic involved when the Pokémon cried at the end of the first movie, but he got turned into stone, that's not the same thing as dying. I have only watched the Lucario movie once, so I'm not sure what to say about that. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 00:48, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::Yeah, technically the tree "removed" him and the humans. It didn't kill them, otherwise Mew wouldn't have been able to revive them, even with the anime physics. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psychic''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]''''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 00:52, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
Um, If you ask me, if you turn into a ghost, you sort of have to be dead. Stone isn't alive, so Ash woldn't be alive if he's turned to stone- hate to tell you, but that's the same as being dead. As for the tree's immune system, that's controversial, just like if Lucario itself died at the end of the movie. I understand that last, but besides that, Ash dies at least a couple of times.[[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 22:40, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
:You make a good point, trolls die when they get turned into stones. (by trolls I mean the creatures, not spammers) Ok, I have to admit, you really managed to outsmart me with your remarks. But I have one question though, if a person freezes, but gets warmed up, would that count as death? [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 22:51, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
Um, not sure, that's more like suspended animation. Unless ice crystals form in the bloodstream.[[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 22:29, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

== Temporary Pokémon ==

In regards to both this and [[Misty]]'s article, where Togepi is below her temporarily borrowed Pokémon, I don't see why Temporary comes before Given away (or in Misty's case Released) Pokémon - I would have thought it neater to group the Pokémon that have actually been officially acquired, as opposed to separating them with Pokémon that have only been briefly utilised (and, presumably, not added to their Pokédex). -[[User:Damien Nightstar|Damien Nightstar]] 12:07, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

==Turtwig evolved!!!!!!!!!!!!!!==
can some one change the turwig to grotle and update turtwigs page cuz it evolved! lol [[User:Ritchie|Ritchie]]
:No it didn't. That's next week's episode. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 14:55, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

::Besides, there's no guarantee that the change will simply be reflecting an evolution. I sense shades of [[EP081|''Pallet Party Panic'']] here...--[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 15:14, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
:::go to serebii.net [[User:Ritchie|Ritchie]]
::::We have that "Until it airs" policy, so we can't edit anything. Anyway, Merrick =/= 100% Confirmed. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 15:18, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

:::::serebii.net jumped the gun on {{TP|May|Glaceon}}, too.

:::::Besides, Bulbapedia's policy is "when it airs" ("it" refers to the episode itself). Not "when it's previewed". As far as we know, Ash's team at the end of the episode could (and probably will) be Pikachu, Staravia, Buizel, Chimchar, and Gliscor with one empty slot (indicating leaving Grotle with the herd). --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 15:22, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
::::::ooo , aight [[User:Ritchie|Ritchie]]
:::::::ASH ISN'T GOING TO RELEASE GROTLE!
:::::::Anyway, we are in exactly the same situation as we were yesterday. The evolution has been confirmed since the Newtype summary was released. Serebii just updated Ash's bio today because we have a picture of it now. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 15:27, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
:Until it airs police. This is not the first time that a preview spoils something important... is it so diffcult to wait a week? We'll have a Grotle, we know. But wait. Just a week. Serebii is Serebii, it has its own rules, and Bulbapedia is Bulbapedia, we just have to wait --[[User:Nick.|Me]], [[User talk:Nick.|myself]] and [[Special:Contributions/Nick.|I]] 15:32, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
::Do I have to remind everyone that Serbii.net is edited by limited amount of people? We cannot guarantee it's correct, sure it has a lot of correct information, but when you see something you know is wrong, you can't just fix it like you can do on this site. This is why I believe "when it airs" policy exists. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 15:51, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
:::wow u guys are soo serious like why would u wait a week if u know its "confirmed" until it airs?? what a f*cked up rule [[User:Ritchie|Ritchie]]
::::Because the world will end if Bulbapedia is ever wrong. Do you want the world to end, no, then wait till it airs. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]]
:::::Seriously, it's only a week away. Is waiting really that hard? You should see some misleading trailers if you haven't already. If preview and a fansite is all the proof you have, then it can't be confirmed, since fansites can be wrong and previews can be misleading. Just wait a one week, patience is important, especially in this case. It's not like you have to wait a month. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 17:18, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
::::::Exactly, I couldnt have put it better TBM, I think we should get a mod to protect the page till next week. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]]
:::::::Confirmation isn't the issue here. Newtype's summaries are reliable. We have the rule because sometimes it is more vague and Turtwig is still a Turtwig at the end of the latest episode.
:::::::But information on Serebii's front page is usually right. The issue there is that it's a secondary source - he has the info because he got it from the same place as us. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 20:32, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
::::::::We knew about Gliscor and Swinub long before they evolved and were captured, you know. We knew Aipom would be evolving in DP060 at the end of DP059. We aren't moving it because the lists are always '''''AS OF THE MOST RECENT JAPANESE EPISODE'''''. The most recent episode was [[DP099]]. Turtwig didn't evolve in that one, ergo, it's Ash's Turtwig. Don't even think of changing it, Ritchie. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 21:01, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

TTE and Fabu, are you agreeing with me and TBM or with Ritchie, we say it shouldnt be on there yet, he says it should. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]]
:"Because the world will end if Bulbapedia is ever wrong. Do you want the world to end, no, then wait till it airs."- then why is there such a thing called previews. it was there for a reason. seeing that will give us the urge to watch it and it also about wraps up what will happen on that episode. clearly the episode preview for the turwig,grotle,torterra episode was on serebii and i dont know why u wouldnt agree. can you give me a reason BESIDES that bulbapedia has to wait ill it airs..can u??? [[User:Ritchie|Ritchie]]
*Well, If you want another reason, I'll give you a reason. Sometime ago, way before [[DP034|Buizel your way out of this]] Aired in Japan, they had a preview showing Ash and Pikachu battling it for almost the entire preview, whileas Dawn and Piplup were seen battling Buizel in only one frame, thus implying at that time that Ash was the one capturing it. So, that's one reason why we have that rule. Actually, now that I think about it, that preview [or rather, Buizel itself] IS the reason why we even have that rule. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 23:31, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
::They are on your side.--[[Bulbapedia:Project Custom Sprite|☆]][[User:Tavisource|Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 23:47, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
:::Ritchie, I already gave you my reasons, and they are not just about policy. Would you mind telling me why you don't agree with that? Really, I'd love to know since it's so important to you that it stays on this page. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 01:05, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

== Name? ==
Do you think it's possible that the English name 'Ash' could have also come from the word 'rash'? Anabel, when translating for Pikachu, did say that sometimes he can act rash, and wasn't it also mentioned in the Pokélantis episode? [[User:Ayla|Ayla]] 22:10, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
:Ash is short for Ashley --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]]
[[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]]
::"Ashley" isn't a reason for the name, unless you think it was chosen with [[EP026]] in mind. His rash attitude is definately an interesting possibility but the examples where it is explicitly mentioned are far later. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 14:51, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
:::Im not trying to argue with you, but Ash is a shortened version for Ashley. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]]
::::Yes it is. But that fact alone isn't the reason 4Kids chose Ash. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 19:01, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::I agree with FabuVinny. And also, GuardianOfEarth, if Ash IS short for Ashley, then why would they pick that name? Is there some kind of reasoning behind that? [[User:Ayla|Ayla]] 19:02, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
::::::I dont know how reliable the source was but I seem to remember it being s'''A'''to'''SH'''i which when the capital letters are rearranged spells Ash. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]]
:::::::Er, Guardian? That source is Bulbapedia. This page, in fact. It says that on the bottom. [[User:Ayla|Ayla]] 22:12, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
:You guys should take it to the forums...to {{u|Ayla}}, that may not be true, as he may have got it from somewhere else, but realized it was posted later on here. [[User:Ht14|''ht'']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 22:14, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
::I think the idea is to add it to the article. The rash thing isn't anything more than trivia, though. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 19:27, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
:::Ash is also short for Ashton... --[[User:Force Fire|Force]] [[User talk:Force Fire|''Fire'']] 07:09, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
Am I the only one who thought it was a connection to the other characters names being based on trees? Oak tree, Ash tree etc [[User:TheAlmightyChris|TheAlmightyChris]] 23:09, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
:I think that Ash's name came from Sacred Ash --[[User:Kamusioso|Kamusioso]]
::Unlikely. That item wasn't introudced until Gen II. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 19:19, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
But Ash saw Ho-oh in the first episode and Sacred Ash is Ho-oh's held item.-Kevin19980609
:Restating what was said above, the Sacred Ash wasn't introduced till GenII. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 21:52, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
::So 4Kids wouldn't have known about it yet. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 21:53, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

== Togepi ==
OK I jest back and now war over Togepi I jest got two words WHO CARES he had egg and Misty got Togepi END OF STORY![[User:XD007DarkRayquaza|XD007DarkRayquaza]] 22:56, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
:Ash found the egg. But the result of "who gets to keep Togepi" was Misty. Ash won the battle but not the prize. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 09:46, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
::No, he won the prize, but gave it to Misty. A'la Beedrill. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 11:53, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
:::He actually captured Beedrill. He didn't give it to Misty, he didn't have a choice. Togepi went to Misty. Besides this was an unoffical contest. As far as it's really known, no one has captured Togepi. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 12:01, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
::::So what he won that match? He didn't even touch Togepi or do anything with it at any time after it hatched. It went directly to Misty by itself. Ash never gave it to her. [[User:Jmath|'''Jm''']][[User talk:Jmath|'''a''']][[Special:Contributions/Jmath|'''th''']] 13:48, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::I think it's Ash who said that he'd give it to Misty. -[[User:Billy4b2004|Billy4b2004]] 03:08, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
::::::Yeah, he said it. But we all saw what happened. Togepi ran to Misty when Ash tried to touch it. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 04:51, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

== Larvitar's egg ==
Why is it different from Donphan's egg? In Donphan case, the word "egg" , the sign "→" and the word "Phanpy" is linked together, why isn't it the same for Larvitar's? And please add a notice on the page if it's protected.-[[User:Billy4b2004|Billy4b2004]] 13:56, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

== Is this Trivial Worth? ==

Ash has captured or had the first poison,grass,fire,flying,water,bug,fighting,normal and electric type pokemon in the pokedex.[[User:Collol|Collol]] 08:58, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
:Why not?--'''[[User:Diby|Di]][[User talk:Diby|b]][[Special:Contributions/Diby|y]]''' 13:11, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
Not really...I think Ash has enough trivia. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 21:21, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
::- on the Normal too, it's either Rattata or Pidgey, and he never captured either. He has, technically, capture the first Pokémon in every dex, which is more notable in my eyes (even though it just means he caught the starters). --- Aura-Knight 03:59, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

== How do I edit his pokemon template? ==

I need to know, since it's been officially confirmed now that Haunter was, indeed, Ash's Pokemon (both the dub and the original version of Haunter vs. Kadabra had Ash and Sabrina saying that Ash "Got" Haunter, implying that it is, officially, his pokemon, and I needed to move Haunter to "Given Away" due to this fact. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 23:55, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
:[[Template:Ash's Pokémon]]--[[Bulbapedia:Project Custom Sprite|☆]][[User:Tavisource|Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 00:03, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
::He never caught it, so it was never his to give away...so it is unofficial. And we've had discussion over this before... majority ruled unofficial. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 00:13, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
:::Even though Ash and Sabrina explicitly used the word "Get" [or the Japanese equivalent] in regards to Ash capturing Haunter in both the original and the dubbed version? Heck, usually when the word capture (or the japanese word get) is used in regards to it, it implies that it's part of the party, and thus an official member. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 00:23, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
::::Capturing means capturing it in a Pokéball. Same with {{AP|Larvitar}}. [[User:Jmath|'''Jm''']][[User talk:Jmath|'''a''']][[Special:Contributions/Jmath|'''th''']] 15:49, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::Then why is [[Misty's Togetic|Togetic/Togepi]] listed as a released pokémon or even an officially captured pokémon? Besides, there are cases where the pokémon is still not yours, even IF you captured it in a Poké Ball. Take [[Brock's Vulpix|Vulpix]], for example. That Pokémon was captured by Brock with a Poké ball, and yet even he said it wasn't even his to begin with. Basically, Haunter is to stay as a given away pokémon, since if even a Gym Leader in both versions referred to Haunter as being Ash's pokémon, having ownership of it, and saying he "got" it, that pretty much confirms that Haunter is officially his pokémon. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 00:51, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

== Well.... ==

Just want to know if this trivia is notable..
:Out of all the Pokémon that Ash owns, the last Pokémon that he has captured in every [[region]] except [[Kanto]] is part of {{DL|evolution|one-evolution families}}, namely {{p|Noctowl}}, {{p|Snorunt}} and {{p|Gligar}}. If the [[Orange Archipelago]] is also included, {{p|Snorlax}} also falls in this category.
[[User:Jmath|'''Jm''']][[User talk:Jmath|'''a''']][[Special:Contributions/Jmath|'''th''']] 21:12, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
:No. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 22:53, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

== I'm going to get decked by Tavisource for this... ==

...But Ash's Squirtle didn't wear the sunglasses that often. Only in a few episodes. If we are not letting Buneary have the vest for the very same reason, then I don't think we should have that sprite for Squirtle. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 20:57, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

:Buneary has only appeared a few times with the vest (although granted, she has only appeared a few times since getting the vest). Squirtle appeared in several major episodes with the glasses, and is assuredly currently wearing them as leader of the Squirtle Squad. [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 21:34, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
::The glasses are a big part of Squirtle's character and far less random than the vest. I personally put the line right there just because the Squirtle is so synonymous with the glasses. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 13:44, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
:::I agree with Vinny. The appearance of Squirtle's sunglasses are directly related to Squirtle's reaction to events. He takes them out when he's taking charge of a situation ([[EP060|Beach Blank-Out Blastoise]]), when his ego feels threatened ([[EP106|The Pokemon Water War]]), or when he wants to appear more threatening ([[Pikachu's Rescue Adventure]]). [[User:Legionaireb|Legionaireb]] 04:58, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

== Reason why I reverted the sprite edit ==

This is what I don't like about the rollback feature...

Anyway, that Chikorita sprite was just unacceptable. Let's use the DPPt version until we find a better one. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 05:37, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

== Champion ==

Why does it say that Ash is a champion? When did he won a pokemon league?(The orange league and the battle frontier are Campionchips, not Leagues).--[[User:Tomas|Tomas]] 12:54, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
:(The '''orange league''' and the battle frontier are Campionchips, not Leagues)
:There you go.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Ho-Oh (Pokémon)|orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Lugia (Pokémon)|ire]] 08:27, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
::It's called "The Orange League". It is a league. Just not a tournament type. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 08:32, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
It says it's a championchip in the article:Ash challenged the following Pokémon '''championships''' as well: List of battles (heavy spoiler)

'''[[Orange League]]''' (Champion)
'''[[Kanto]] [[Battle Frontier]]''' (Champion)
--[[User:Tomas|Tomas]] 13:15, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

== Propensity for Drowning ==

I'm not sure whether this is worth mentioning in the page, but Ash seems to have a knack for either nearly drowning or getting into situations where drowning is a likely possibility. I can think of about 9 instances off the top of my head. A short list includes [[EP016|Pokemon Shipwreck]] (trapped in a capsized ship), [[EP067|the Pi-Kahuna]] (after wiping out in the surf), [[Pokemon Heroes]] (when Oakley tries to stop him from entering the museum), and in [[Pokemon Ranger and the Temple of the Sea]] (when attempting to fix the crystal lattice in the flooded chamber.) Can some others weigh in, please? [[User:Legionaireb|Legionaireb]] 15:47, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
:There was also ''[[Holiday Hi-Jynx]]'' right when Lapras rescued him. And I guess the journey to New Island in Mewtwo Strikes Back. Oh, and the climax of the Second Movie (after Lawrence nearly killed Lugia), as well as when Ash filled Team Rocket's van with Water in the episode where he battled Ritchie. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 17:03, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

:It's just one of his character traits "courage" wich is probably listed in the article (I don't wanna scan the article to see if I'm right). He will do anything to save his allies and the common scenario he gets into is drowning.[[User:Vhayes1992|Vhayes1992]] 02:43, 28 July 2009 that in(UTC)

== Ash's age: A CLEAR EXPLANATION ==

Before you people come up with your opinions on Ash's age, take the time to wonder... Did it ever occur to any of you that this is a cartoon? Let me remind you of another show. You may have heard of it. It's called {{wp|The Simpsons}}. Bart Simpson, a ten year old boy, is one of the main characters. Now the show has been on for like 20 years and yet Bart is still 10. So stop thinking that it's so damn unbelievable that Ash is still ten years old when Bart Simpson has the same case. It's clear in The Simpsons that many years pass by as the kids go to school, get summer vacation, and go to school again, and still remain in the same grade and never age. The mentioning of passing years are mentioned all the time but no one ages.

In a nutshell this is a freakin cartoon people. Therefore they don't have to make the characters age. They may mention that years go by, but that doesn't mean they age. So I don't want any of you coming up with your theories here. Ash is, and will likely stay 10 until the series is over. If you believe otherwise then go to the forums and discuss it. I know that there are animes that age their characters, but Pokémon is NOT one of them. Learn to accept it. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 00:22, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
:Check out ''[[wp:Case Closed|Detective Conan]]''. It's an anime that's been running for longer than Pokémon, constantly references the time of year (with way too many events happing around New Year to make any sense) and yet none of the characters have aged a day.
:[[Aging in the anime]] states our policy on this. It isn't explicitly stated that anyone is any older (and you'd think Ash would mention if it was his birthday in the third Pikachu short) so we go by the only age that is canon. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 15:44, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

==Question about voice actor==

I have a question concerning an edit I'd might to do. In the box where the English voice actors names are it says "Sarah Natochenny (PUSA)". Should it be "Sarah Natochenny (TCPi)"? It's no longer PUSA anymore. [[User:Vhayes1992|Vhayes1992]] 23:52, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

I know what you are talking about but ash's voice actor is still same "Sarah Natochenny" and other voice actors (most of them) are same.
--♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''niz''']]♪♫ 06:02, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
:I mean, should we change it from PUSA to TPCi?-- [[User:Vhayes1992|Vhayes1992]] 06:55, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

I think firstly you have to get permission from the administrators.
--♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''niz''']]♪♫ 06:56, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

== Protect ==

I suggest someone protect this page. at least until DP146 (or DP145, i cant remember which) airs. my reson, because of the posibility of ash catching a Gible in this episode. [[User talk: ShinyPikachu|Shiny]][[User:ShinyPikachu|'''Pika''']] 23:28, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
:Not only this but Dawn, Brock, Jessie, and James also because they all have possibilities of getting Gible. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] '''''[[Special:Contributions/Turtwig_A|Contributions]]''''' '''''[[User talk:Turtwig A|Talk]]''''' 23:30, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
::If someone tries to add it to any of the main characters pages, I will protect them. For now, it'll remain editable. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 23:37, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
:::Excuse me guys, Ash already have 6 pokemon in his team, exceptions are there but use your common sense. --♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''niz''']]♪♫ 04:44, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
::::I agree with you, just hope there is no release and capture in one episode. Most likely not to happen.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 04:46, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::Ya, i hope so. --♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''niz''']]♪♫ 04:52, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::That doesn't mean he can't capture anymore Pokémon. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 04:54, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::::One word: Krabby!!!!!!!!--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 04:55, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::::I said that exceptions are there. --♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''niz''']]♪♫ 04:56, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::I know I just wanted to say that.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 04:58, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::But when he caught Krabby, he wasn't aware that it would be transferred away.--[[Bulbapedia:Project Custom Sprite|☆]][[User:Tavisource|Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 22:03, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

== ash's dad ==

http://www.serebii.net/anime/pictures/shinou/606ps8.shtml

12th row, 2nd picture.

could someone get this pic and post it? it confirms that his dad is not giovonni, oak, or silver, but an unnamed, never before seen man. {{unsigned|WaterUser}}

:[[Iizō and Kane Iino|Those people]] are from Twinleaf Town and are Dawn's neighbors...not from Pallet Town...--[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 22:51, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
::I believe he's talking about the guy with the Rapidash. That is NOT Ash's father. In fact, that guy looks like he's in his teens. God, why do people always jump to conclusions? This confirms nothing. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 02:40, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

:::Besides, the pictures don't line up the same on all displays. I've recently upgraded my monitor to a flat widescreen (with a new tower to go with it), and I'm currently on a 1300x768 resolution. There isn't even a row 12 in that resolution (only 10 rows of three each). --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 03:27, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

I thin that that man in the picture looks a little like '''[[Silver (anime)|Silver]]''', he is hust a bit younger, has slightly shorter hair and diferent clothes.--[[User:Tomas|Tomas]] 09:14, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

== Bottom page template ==

The External Links Template seems to be too big.

Can we put in a box that's say

"There are many template. Click "show".

I forgot the link to do that, we should hide it in a box.

--[[User:Ruixiang95|Ruixiang95]] 06:12, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

== Flying-types ==
Perhaps a good idea for the trivia: All of Ash's Flying-type Pokémon are on their final stage, these include: Pidgeot, Noctowl, Swellow, Staraptor, Gliscor, Charizard and Butterfree. [[User:Bigtukker|Bigtukker]] 08:45, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
:Personally I don't think it's notable. Remember that all types must be treated equally.- the same can be said of his Ground, Bug and Ice types, and If you count Aipom's evolution while it was with Dawn, his Normal types as well. Not to mention that there is too much trivia already. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 08:57, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Talk:AG082

2009-09-23T16:51:50Z

Tomas: /* another error */

== Synposis: TR fruit arguement ==

Wait. I thought James was the one who found some fruit rolling from the bushes and he comments that he is "so delirious that I am seeing imaginary apples".

== another error ==

is it just me, or did max told that fire spin would be an even stronger move than ember?According to the games, ember is stronger than fire spin.Ithink it's another error.--'''{{wp|Wikipedia|Wiki}}'''[[User:Tomas|'''Tomas''']]13:53, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

:Entirely possible, but I'm not sure about this. Sure, Ember is indeed stronger by raw base power, but remember, in the games, Fire Spin is a trapping move that does additional damage over the next several turns. Due to this, it's entirely possible the anime itself could see Fire Spin as the stronger move. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 15:43, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Maybe, but ember has small flames in the anime and fire spin is like a flamethrower just spining. I personally think that (in the anime) the more flame-the stronger the move.--'''{{wp|Wikipedia|Wiki}}'''[[User:Tomas|'''Tomas''']]16:50, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Talk:AG082

2009-09-23T16:50:13Z

Tomas: /* another error */

== Synposis: TR fruit arguement ==

Wait. I thought James was the one who found some fruit rolling from the bushes and he comments that he is "so delirious that I am seeing imaginary apples".

== another error ==

is it just me, or did max told that fire spin would be an even stronger move than ember?According to the games, ember is stronger than fire spin.Ithink it's another error.--'''{{wp|Wikipedia|Wiki}}'''[[User:Tomas|'''Tomas''']]13:53, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

:Entirely possible, but I'm not sure about this. Sure, Ember is indeed stronger by raw base power, but remember, in the games, Fire Spin is a trapping move that does additional damage over the next several turns. Due to this, it's entirely possible the anime itself could see Fire Spin as the stronger move. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 15:43, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Maybe, but ember has small flames in the anime and fire spin is like a flamethrower just spining. I personally think that (in the anime) the more flame-the stronger the move.--[[User:Tomas|Tomas]] 16:50, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Talk:AG082

2009-09-22T13:56:04Z

Tomas: /* another error */

Talk:AG082

2009-09-22T13:53:09Z

Tomas: /* another error */ new section

Talk:Red (game)

2009-09-22T13:37:57Z

Tomas: /* Got a question */

He doesn't look like 11 and especially Leaf doesn't either. Is there any source or official statement for the age? If not, how come there actually is something about the age in the articles if it's not a fact?! --[[User:Nyoo|nYoo]] 08:21, 4 Aug 2005 (CDT)

Well, I do believe both [[Red (Special)|Red]] and [[Ruby (Special)|Ruby]] started their journey at 11 rather than 10 in [[Pokémon Special]], but besides that, I think it might be confused. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]][[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]] 10:52, 4 Aug 2005 (CDT)

Oh, ok. But this would mean, he got older as he appears again in the FR/LG series and certainly looks older. Same applies for Green and Blue. --[[User:Nyoo|nYoo]] 15:18, 4 Aug 2005 (CDT)

[[Pokémon Red and Blue]] take place at the same time as [[Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen]]. It's the exact same storyline (defeating TR, etc.) except with the Sevii Islands added. Oh, and I do think in the American RGB manuals it said that Red is 11, but I don't have any of those lying around anywhere. --[[User:Greengiant|Greengiant]]

I think there may be something wrong with the table of optional names on this page. There are no English names and all of the Japanese names are in the same box--[[user:Shaddow Boy|Shaddow Boy]] 9:00 PM, 3 March 2006

There's nothing wrong, only that no-one has filled in the names. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]][[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]] 22:25, 20 March 2006 (CST)

Red did not become Pokémon Master in Generation II! He became one in Generation I by beating Blue. In Generation II he must have be beaten by Lance and lose this title because he is just "Pokémon Trainer". - [[User:Maxim|Maxim]]

Well, really, there's no clear definition of what a "pokémon master" is. Also, there is no confirmation that Red was actually beaten by Lance, considering that Red leaves the E4 after beating Blue anyway in RBY. The only confirmed trainer to defeat him is Gold. I apologize for changing it though, I copied it to edit before you changed it, then added it later.- Shaddow Boy

The proof: [[Pokémon Master]]. I think it would be more appropriate to change that last line to, "Red is no longer the champion, and Lance has become one." Considering Red's team was much better leveled than Lance's, it seems unlikely that Lance beat him out in a battle. Besides, according to the aforementioned article, whether or not he's the champ, he could still be a master-Shaddow Boy

==Yellow==
Should it be noted that Red's Generation II sprite is the one from Yellow, which, in turn, was inspired by Ash? Maybe note somewhere in the article that Ash's character design is based on Red, even though they are not the same people?

==SSB==
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/n01/n64/software/nus_p_nalj/smash/PostResult2.html
Do you think this bears mention? This was a "poll" of sorts conducted by Sakurai in May 1999, asking players what characters they wanted to see in Super Smash Bros if they ever made a sequel. Tied for number twelve(the middle one) is "Satoshi (Protagonist)" from the "Pocket Monsters" series. While it's true that Red's official Japanese name is actually "Redo" and not "Satoshi", this poll was taken 6 months prior to the release of Pokemon Gold and Silver, so his name hadn't been made official yet. Also, one might note that Red got more votes than did Diddy Kong, who is considered a likely character for Brawl, or Meta-Knight, who is already confirmed. ---Shaddow Boy
:Are you sure that they intended that it be Red, and not Ash? Ash is the protagonist of the Pocket Monsters series, meaning the anime series.

:Though I see that they did take those votes to heart, as Bowser's on top, then there's Peach, Ganondorf, and Mewtwo. Maybe they'll allow Banjo and Kazooie to be in Brawl... [[User:TTEchidna|TTE]] 01:31, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
::The fact that Rare belongs to Microsoft, as well as Banjo's removal from Diddy Kong Racing DS, should answer your question. My quesion is, though, what would Red do if he was put in SSBM? What would his moves be?
:::Still, SSBB is allowing third-party characters, and Sega and Nintendo have been in talks... Plus, Rare did say something about a Banjo game coming for DS as well, so they may have removed Banjo from DKRDS in order to make it more just Diddy Kong racing, and not Rare Character Racing. [[User:TTEchidna|TTE]] 03:01, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

::Pocket Monsters is also the name of the game series, pokemon is just a shortened version. Red was, at the time of the poll, the only protagonist in the video game series. It's also entirely possible that the two(Ash and Red) were not entirely distinguished as separate characters yet. Anyways, as for Red's moves, I'm not entirely sure why that's relevant to whether or not this should be mentioned, but I'll answer, I guess. Red actually has a lot of potential for a moveset if you think about it, a lot more than some characters in SSBM, anyways. Red has all of his items that he uses in the game; poke balls, for capturing opponents; the super rod, as an extended grab; Repel, which could act as a fumy shield; or... well... basically any item in the game could be given an SSB function. In addition, Red could probably pull out a pokemon for a few of his attacks. Not literally "pull out", but, for example, for his third jump, he could quickly open a poke ball, releasing a flying pokemon to use Fly and carry him upwards. For regular attacks, he would probably use a mixture of punches, kicks and various items. --- Shaddow Boy

==PBR Trailer==
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lj2Jqz-rxk8
Red doesn't seem to have any role in Pokemon Battle Revolution... however, the first Pokemon Battle Revolution Trailer specifically featured Red and Leaf, rather than the 4th gen protagonists. Does this merit mention?---Shaddow Boy

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I thought we only mentioned English and Japanese names in the first line. --[[User:Greengiant|Greengiant]] 15:15, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

== Stop! ==

I got enough of this, let's stop this friggin' crap! Red's team does not reference Pokémon Special. Remember for your lives, Special is based on game, never oppositely! Red got Espeon in game first. He also never had all three starters in the manga (he only borrowed them for short time, for the sake of referencing game team). Then, the team does not reference anime. It's just a power-uped team from [[Pokémon Yellow]] (yeah, Yellow references anime, but the team does not). Look, all his Pokémon are derived from events in the GAME, not in anime.
* Pikachu - starter in the game (and the starter is usually the strongest Pokémon)
* Venusaur - Bulbasaur from Cerulean City
* Charizard - Charmander from Route 25
* Blastoise - Squirtle from Vermillion City
* Snorlax - From either Cycling Road or Silence Bridge
* Espeon - Eevee from Celadon Mansion

See it? No anime. Only game. His team is not directly based on the anime. And the thing about Special is a complete crap. See it now? --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 12:10, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

== Voice in Brawl? ==

Okay... hearing it, I'm ''thinking'' it's Sarah, since she does voice his anime counterpart... but I'm not too sure. Anyone else? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]][[Image:Ani155MS.gif|Fire echy]]''' 04:11, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
:It may just be an imitator, since it seems a bit off to me. Also take care that the Japanese Pokémon Trainer doesn't particularly sound like Satoshi, he just generally sounds like a kid.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 05:03, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
::Yea, I hate the voice in Brawl. He sounds like he's 5....--'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 10:54, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

== Got a question ==

After defeating Red once in G/S, can he be battled again?--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 17:46, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
:Yes, but you'll need to fight the Elite Four again before he'll reappear each time. [[User:IIMarckus|IIMarckus]] 18:03, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

K Thanks!
::Is this worth to be mentioned in the text? [[User:Jacce|Jacce]] 13:13, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
Question: Does red have a VS sprite in HG/SS?--'''{{wp|Wikipedia|Wiki}}'''[[User:Tomas|'''Tomas''']] 13:36, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

==counterparts==
alright red seems to be based on two characters ash and ritchie because in red/blue version it looks like ritchie but in the yellow version it looks like ash so im adding 2 people to the counterpart section and also adding this to the trivia section [[User:Ritchie|Ritchie]]
:Actually, you got it all wrong... First of all, Red isn't ''based on'' anyone. It's the other way around. Ash is based on Red. Second of all, yeah, Ritchie looks like him too because Ritchie was designed to look like Ash (who, in turn, was designed to look like Red)... --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzzzz''']] ''([[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|TALK]])'' 17:26, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

::That is correct. The games came first, ''then'' the anime. The only characters to appear in the anime first then the main game series were Jessie and James. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 17:55, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
:::but how do you know that ritchie was based on Ash its just like sayin James is based on gary or something ..just cuz they look the same doesnt mean the one who comes later in the show is based on the one coming earlier. also wheres the proof?????????[[User:Ritchie|Ritchie]]
::::So like the game starting off at 1996 and being out for an entire year, and having already started production on Gen II isn't enough proof which character was based off which? And you yourself are asking for proof, where's your proof that Red is based off of Ash?
--[[User:Outrage DD|Outrage DD]] 00:03, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

==Know the Difference between a FACT and an ASSUMPTION==
This quote right here gives me a lot of issues. A lot of them.
::''When Red is encountered in Mt. Silver during Generation II, he has no speech, merely repeating an ellipsis before beginning the battle. '''This is a reference''' to the fact that during Generation I he is a silent protagonist, answering only "yes" or "no" questions. After he is defeated, the screen blacks out and he vanishes, a reference to the fact that as the player, Red would black out and awake in the last-used Pokémon Center when he ran out of Pokémon.''
...And it most definitely has nothing to do with the fact every player character experiences many yes/no feedback and "black outs" after defeat? That's ridiculous. Red's lack of dialog in GSC might simply be '''the creator's attempt to leave the character up to an individual's perception''', but that too happens to be ''my'' assumption.
:Unless someone can directly reference this to a pamphlet or quote of some sort, I think this trivia is in dire need of revision or deletion. [[User:RWMVG1DC|RWMVG1DC]] 23:09, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
:I consider the silent protagonist/ellipsis thing to be reasonable. I agree that the blacking out makes no sense, though, and should be removed. [[User:IIMarckus|IIMarckus]] 06:20, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
::Yeah... I think the disappearance is Red doing a ninja/Sheik thing. The ellipsis is definitely due to the fact that he was a silent protagonist, although I'm not sure if I'd word it as a "reference." --[[User:Martonimos|((Marton]] [[User talk:Martonimos|imos))]] 06:50, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
:::I can accept that Red doesn't answer with anything but an ellipses in Gold/Silver, because it's very likely it '''is''' a reference to him being a silent protagonist. Him speaking would be completely strange and just not fitting, considering ''you'' were Red in the previous games. Speaking requires personality, and you are supposed to be the personality. This piece of trivia fits.

:::But the second part does '''not'''. There is no evidence to indicate anyone but Red and yourself black out when you lose a battle, so it can't be assumed that this is the case with Red at this point. I always felt that the blackened screen was representative of Red escaping, not blacking out. As clearly shown above, I'm not the only person to think this. And since the opinion can vary, no single one can be presented as fact. [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 22:52, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

== Names ==

Why are his other names in one whole line, unlike others'? Same goes for B/G (Gary). [[User: Tc26|'''tc''']][[User talk: Tc26|'''2''']][[Special: Contributions/Tc26|'''6''']] 01:50, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
:Likely because it'd make the article way too wide, or comparably, RBGY had so few names to choose from, and everyone here chose Ash anyway. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:19, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

== Eye color ==

Shouldn't it be mentioned that his FR/LG sprite has blue eyes,but all the offical art shows him with brown eyes(and maybe it's just me,but his backsprite seems to show him with brown eyes,just like Leaf)? [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 03:23, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

== Red in GSC being based off of Ash? ==

"His team references Pokémon Yellow, which is based on the anime, causing many to call him Ash."
The final boss in GSC, AKA Red, was not based off of [[Ash]]. It was based off of {{special|Red}}, from the Pokemon Adventures manga.
Red's team in GSC is {{p|Pikachu}}, {{p|Espeon}}, {{p|Snorlax}}, {{p|Venusaur}}, {{p|Charizard}}, and {{p|Blastoise}}.

Out of those, Ash has a Pikachu, Snorlax, and Charizard.
Red from the manga has Pikachu, Espeon, Snorlax, Venusar, AND would have Charizard and Blastoise borrowed from Blue and Green while he was training in Mt. Silver. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 16:36, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
:If anything he was based on events that take place in Red, Green, and Blue. Since they didn't wanna canonize and give Red and Green one starter (making Green's team be one of the teams you face with him as champion-- it's actually that minus the starter in GSC), they gave him all three and Pikachu (to represent Red, Green, Blue, and Yellow), Espeon (because you could get an Eevee in RGBY), and Snorlax (because the one that was blocking {{rt|16}} isn't there, but the one blocking {{rt|11}} has moved somewhat). '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 16:51, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
::I am just saying it is silly to have that statement there. The only real reason people would see him as Ash is because he has a Pikachu. :/ and that is because alot of people dont read the manga and only know of the show. But it does actually reference Pokemon Yellow I guess since you can obtain all three starters. I just dont agree with the Ash part. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 01:08, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
:::Well, he has Lapras now, which may or may not be a reference to Ash.--[[User:Ryuutakeshi|Ryuutakeshi]] 05:14, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
::::Also, Pikachu has Iron Tail, Volt Tackle, Quick Attack, and Thunderbolt now. Seems like a blatant reference to me. However, it must be emphasised that even though it's a reference with Lapras and the starter trio, Snorlax and Pikachu, he is STILL not Ash. However, this pretty much nips it in the bud that he was ever a reference to Red (manga) - more so, Red's team in the manga seems moreso based on Red himself in the game, setting up his team to be ready so that it would mimic the game, not the other way around. With them retconning the Espeon out of existence, adding Lapras, making Pikachu even more of a reference, it seems they REALLY didn't want people making the confusion.[[User:Kumori Satosuke|Satosuke]] 23:16, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::Agreed, Red's team is a blatant reference to Ash, especially with the changes made in HGSS. It's not a reference to Special, however; Special got Red's team from the games. [[User:Reign|Reign]] 21:17, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

I've not read the manga, but I always thought the high-powered team lead by a really overleveled Pikachu made it clear it was supposed to be Ash. I just never got where the Espeon came from, but figured maybe sometime it the anime he would get one to contrast Gary's Umbreon. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 21:41, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

:The only reference to the anime is Red's Pikachu. The other Pokémon were chosen because they were somewhat canonical (ie: Red got Lapras from that Silph scientist, Eevee from the guy in Celadon and Snorlax from when he fought and caught the Snorlax that was blocking the path to Fuchsia). Some could argue that they replaced Espeon with Lapras because of Ash, but that is up to debate. Methinks they did it just so that his team would have only Kanto Pokémon, as a reference to the fact that he was the player character during Gen I. - [[User:Crystal Master|Crystal Master]]
::Yes, I believe this is what happened now. Its based on the player from Yellow. Because in Yellow you can get all these Pokemon from NPCs. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 12:44, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
:::Red in GSC is based on the player of Yellow. But player of Yellow was Red, not Ash. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 13:52, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
::::I disagree. Just because Yellow Red can get all the starters it doesn't mean that G/S/C Red is based on him. Like TTE said, they just gave him all the Gen I starters because they didn't want to canonize a single one. Considering that G/S/C Blue is based in R/G/B Blue and that there are hints in G/S/C that it follows the plot of R/G/B rather than Yellow (such as Cerulean City having the house with the old man who trades Pokémon with you in R/G/B, rather than the house's Yellow counterpart that had the girl who gave Yellow his Bulbasaur), G/S/C Red is based on R/G/B(/Y?) Red. - [[User:Crystal Master|Crystal Master]] 18:50, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

== The article image.. ==

It looks too saturated. What happened, someone changed it? [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 17:58, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Red (game)

2009-09-22T13:36:52Z

Tomas: /* Got a question */

He doesn't look like 11 and especially Leaf doesn't either. Is there any source or official statement for the age? If not, how come there actually is something about the age in the articles if it's not a fact?! --[[User:Nyoo|nYoo]] 08:21, 4 Aug 2005 (CDT)

Well, I do believe both [[Red (Special)|Red]] and [[Ruby (Special)|Ruby]] started their journey at 11 rather than 10 in [[Pokémon Special]], but besides that, I think it might be confused. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]][[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]] 10:52, 4 Aug 2005 (CDT)

Oh, ok. But this would mean, he got older as he appears again in the FR/LG series and certainly looks older. Same applies for Green and Blue. --[[User:Nyoo|nYoo]] 15:18, 4 Aug 2005 (CDT)

[[Pokémon Red and Blue]] take place at the same time as [[Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen]]. It's the exact same storyline (defeating TR, etc.) except with the Sevii Islands added. Oh, and I do think in the American RGB manuals it said that Red is 11, but I don't have any of those lying around anywhere. --[[User:Greengiant|Greengiant]]

I think there may be something wrong with the table of optional names on this page. There are no English names and all of the Japanese names are in the same box--[[user:Shaddow Boy|Shaddow Boy]] 9:00 PM, 3 March 2006

There's nothing wrong, only that no-one has filled in the names. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]][[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]] 22:25, 20 March 2006 (CST)

Red did not become Pokémon Master in Generation II! He became one in Generation I by beating Blue. In Generation II he must have be beaten by Lance and lose this title because he is just "Pokémon Trainer". - [[User:Maxim|Maxim]]

Well, really, there's no clear definition of what a "pokémon master" is. Also, there is no confirmation that Red was actually beaten by Lance, considering that Red leaves the E4 after beating Blue anyway in RBY. The only confirmed trainer to defeat him is Gold. I apologize for changing it though, I copied it to edit before you changed it, then added it later.- Shaddow Boy

The proof: [[Pokémon Master]]. I think it would be more appropriate to change that last line to, "Red is no longer the champion, and Lance has become one." Considering Red's team was much better leveled than Lance's, it seems unlikely that Lance beat him out in a battle. Besides, according to the aforementioned article, whether or not he's the champ, he could still be a master-Shaddow Boy

==Yellow==
Should it be noted that Red's Generation II sprite is the one from Yellow, which, in turn, was inspired by Ash? Maybe note somewhere in the article that Ash's character design is based on Red, even though they are not the same people?

==SSB==
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/n01/n64/software/nus_p_nalj/smash/PostResult2.html
Do you think this bears mention? This was a "poll" of sorts conducted by Sakurai in May 1999, asking players what characters they wanted to see in Super Smash Bros if they ever made a sequel. Tied for number twelve(the middle one) is "Satoshi (Protagonist)" from the "Pocket Monsters" series. While it's true that Red's official Japanese name is actually "Redo" and not "Satoshi", this poll was taken 6 months prior to the release of Pokemon Gold and Silver, so his name hadn't been made official yet. Also, one might note that Red got more votes than did Diddy Kong, who is considered a likely character for Brawl, or Meta-Knight, who is already confirmed. ---Shaddow Boy
:Are you sure that they intended that it be Red, and not Ash? Ash is the protagonist of the Pocket Monsters series, meaning the anime series.

:Though I see that they did take those votes to heart, as Bowser's on top, then there's Peach, Ganondorf, and Mewtwo. Maybe they'll allow Banjo and Kazooie to be in Brawl... [[User:TTEchidna|TTE]] 01:31, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
::The fact that Rare belongs to Microsoft, as well as Banjo's removal from Diddy Kong Racing DS, should answer your question. My quesion is, though, what would Red do if he was put in SSBM? What would his moves be?
:::Still, SSBB is allowing third-party characters, and Sega and Nintendo have been in talks... Plus, Rare did say something about a Banjo game coming for DS as well, so they may have removed Banjo from DKRDS in order to make it more just Diddy Kong racing, and not Rare Character Racing. [[User:TTEchidna|TTE]] 03:01, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

::Pocket Monsters is also the name of the game series, pokemon is just a shortened version. Red was, at the time of the poll, the only protagonist in the video game series. It's also entirely possible that the two(Ash and Red) were not entirely distinguished as separate characters yet. Anyways, as for Red's moves, I'm not entirely sure why that's relevant to whether or not this should be mentioned, but I'll answer, I guess. Red actually has a lot of potential for a moveset if you think about it, a lot more than some characters in SSBM, anyways. Red has all of his items that he uses in the game; poke balls, for capturing opponents; the super rod, as an extended grab; Repel, which could act as a fumy shield; or... well... basically any item in the game could be given an SSB function. In addition, Red could probably pull out a pokemon for a few of his attacks. Not literally "pull out", but, for example, for his third jump, he could quickly open a poke ball, releasing a flying pokemon to use Fly and carry him upwards. For regular attacks, he would probably use a mixture of punches, kicks and various items. --- Shaddow Boy

==PBR Trailer==
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lj2Jqz-rxk8
Red doesn't seem to have any role in Pokemon Battle Revolution... however, the first Pokemon Battle Revolution Trailer specifically featured Red and Leaf, rather than the 4th gen protagonists. Does this merit mention?---Shaddow Boy

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I thought we only mentioned English and Japanese names in the first line. --[[User:Greengiant|Greengiant]] 15:15, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

== Stop! ==

I got enough of this, let's stop this friggin' crap! Red's team does not reference Pokémon Special. Remember for your lives, Special is based on game, never oppositely! Red got Espeon in game first. He also never had all three starters in the manga (he only borrowed them for short time, for the sake of referencing game team). Then, the team does not reference anime. It's just a power-uped team from [[Pokémon Yellow]] (yeah, Yellow references anime, but the team does not). Look, all his Pokémon are derived from events in the GAME, not in anime.
* Pikachu - starter in the game (and the starter is usually the strongest Pokémon)
* Venusaur - Bulbasaur from Cerulean City
* Charizard - Charmander from Route 25
* Blastoise - Squirtle from Vermillion City
* Snorlax - From either Cycling Road or Silence Bridge
* Espeon - Eevee from Celadon Mansion

See it? No anime. Only game. His team is not directly based on the anime. And the thing about Special is a complete crap. See it now? --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 12:10, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

== Voice in Brawl? ==

Okay... hearing it, I'm ''thinking'' it's Sarah, since she does voice his anime counterpart... but I'm not too sure. Anyone else? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]][[Image:Ani155MS.gif|Fire echy]]''' 04:11, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
:It may just be an imitator, since it seems a bit off to me. Also take care that the Japanese Pokémon Trainer doesn't particularly sound like Satoshi, he just generally sounds like a kid.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 05:03, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
::Yea, I hate the voice in Brawl. He sounds like he's 5....--'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 10:54, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

== Got a question ==

After defeating Red once in G/S, can he be battled again?--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 17:46, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
:Yes, but you'll need to fight the Elite Four again before he'll reappear each time. [[User:IIMarckus|IIMarckus]] 18:03, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

K Thanks!
::Is this worth to be mentioned in the text? [[User:Jacce|Jacce]] 13:13, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
Question: Does red have a VS sprite in HG/SS?--[[User:Tomas|Tomas]] 13:36, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

==counterparts==
alright red seems to be based on two characters ash and ritchie because in red/blue version it looks like ritchie but in the yellow version it looks like ash so im adding 2 people to the counterpart section and also adding this to the trivia section [[User:Ritchie|Ritchie]]
:Actually, you got it all wrong... First of all, Red isn't ''based on'' anyone. It's the other way around. Ash is based on Red. Second of all, yeah, Ritchie looks like him too because Ritchie was designed to look like Ash (who, in turn, was designed to look like Red)... --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzzzz''']] ''([[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|TALK]])'' 17:26, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

::That is correct. The games came first, ''then'' the anime. The only characters to appear in the anime first then the main game series were Jessie and James. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 17:55, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
:::but how do you know that ritchie was based on Ash its just like sayin James is based on gary or something ..just cuz they look the same doesnt mean the one who comes later in the show is based on the one coming earlier. also wheres the proof?????????[[User:Ritchie|Ritchie]]
::::So like the game starting off at 1996 and being out for an entire year, and having already started production on Gen II isn't enough proof which character was based off which? And you yourself are asking for proof, where's your proof that Red is based off of Ash?
--[[User:Outrage DD|Outrage DD]] 00:03, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

==Know the Difference between a FACT and an ASSUMPTION==
This quote right here gives me a lot of issues. A lot of them.
::''When Red is encountered in Mt. Silver during Generation II, he has no speech, merely repeating an ellipsis before beginning the battle. '''This is a reference''' to the fact that during Generation I he is a silent protagonist, answering only "yes" or "no" questions. After he is defeated, the screen blacks out and he vanishes, a reference to the fact that as the player, Red would black out and awake in the last-used Pokémon Center when he ran out of Pokémon.''
...And it most definitely has nothing to do with the fact every player character experiences many yes/no feedback and "black outs" after defeat? That's ridiculous. Red's lack of dialog in GSC might simply be '''the creator's attempt to leave the character up to an individual's perception''', but that too happens to be ''my'' assumption.
:Unless someone can directly reference this to a pamphlet or quote of some sort, I think this trivia is in dire need of revision or deletion. [[User:RWMVG1DC|RWMVG1DC]] 23:09, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
:I consider the silent protagonist/ellipsis thing to be reasonable. I agree that the blacking out makes no sense, though, and should be removed. [[User:IIMarckus|IIMarckus]] 06:20, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
::Yeah... I think the disappearance is Red doing a ninja/Sheik thing. The ellipsis is definitely due to the fact that he was a silent protagonist, although I'm not sure if I'd word it as a "reference." --[[User:Martonimos|((Marton]] [[User talk:Martonimos|imos))]] 06:50, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
:::I can accept that Red doesn't answer with anything but an ellipses in Gold/Silver, because it's very likely it '''is''' a reference to him being a silent protagonist. Him speaking would be completely strange and just not fitting, considering ''you'' were Red in the previous games. Speaking requires personality, and you are supposed to be the personality. This piece of trivia fits.

:::But the second part does '''not'''. There is no evidence to indicate anyone but Red and yourself black out when you lose a battle, so it can't be assumed that this is the case with Red at this point. I always felt that the blackened screen was representative of Red escaping, not blacking out. As clearly shown above, I'm not the only person to think this. And since the opinion can vary, no single one can be presented as fact. [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 22:52, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

== Names ==

Why are his other names in one whole line, unlike others'? Same goes for B/G (Gary). [[User: Tc26|'''tc''']][[User talk: Tc26|'''2''']][[Special: Contributions/Tc26|'''6''']] 01:50, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
:Likely because it'd make the article way too wide, or comparably, RBGY had so few names to choose from, and everyone here chose Ash anyway. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:19, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

== Eye color ==

Shouldn't it be mentioned that his FR/LG sprite has blue eyes,but all the offical art shows him with brown eyes(and maybe it's just me,but his backsprite seems to show him with brown eyes,just like Leaf)? [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 03:23, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

== Red in GSC being based off of Ash? ==

"His team references Pokémon Yellow, which is based on the anime, causing many to call him Ash."
The final boss in GSC, AKA Red, was not based off of [[Ash]]. It was based off of {{special|Red}}, from the Pokemon Adventures manga.
Red's team in GSC is {{p|Pikachu}}, {{p|Espeon}}, {{p|Snorlax}}, {{p|Venusaur}}, {{p|Charizard}}, and {{p|Blastoise}}.

Out of those, Ash has a Pikachu, Snorlax, and Charizard.
Red from the manga has Pikachu, Espeon, Snorlax, Venusar, AND would have Charizard and Blastoise borrowed from Blue and Green while he was training in Mt. Silver. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 16:36, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
:If anything he was based on events that take place in Red, Green, and Blue. Since they didn't wanna canonize and give Red and Green one starter (making Green's team be one of the teams you face with him as champion-- it's actually that minus the starter in GSC), they gave him all three and Pikachu (to represent Red, Green, Blue, and Yellow), Espeon (because you could get an Eevee in RGBY), and Snorlax (because the one that was blocking {{rt|16}} isn't there, but the one blocking {{rt|11}} has moved somewhat). '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 16:51, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
::I am just saying it is silly to have that statement there. The only real reason people would see him as Ash is because he has a Pikachu. :/ and that is because alot of people dont read the manga and only know of the show. But it does actually reference Pokemon Yellow I guess since you can obtain all three starters. I just dont agree with the Ash part. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 01:08, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
:::Well, he has Lapras now, which may or may not be a reference to Ash.--[[User:Ryuutakeshi|Ryuutakeshi]] 05:14, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
::::Also, Pikachu has Iron Tail, Volt Tackle, Quick Attack, and Thunderbolt now. Seems like a blatant reference to me. However, it must be emphasised that even though it's a reference with Lapras and the starter trio, Snorlax and Pikachu, he is STILL not Ash. However, this pretty much nips it in the bud that he was ever a reference to Red (manga) - more so, Red's team in the manga seems moreso based on Red himself in the game, setting up his team to be ready so that it would mimic the game, not the other way around. With them retconning the Espeon out of existence, adding Lapras, making Pikachu even more of a reference, it seems they REALLY didn't want people making the confusion.[[User:Kumori Satosuke|Satosuke]] 23:16, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::Agreed, Red's team is a blatant reference to Ash, especially with the changes made in HGSS. It's not a reference to Special, however; Special got Red's team from the games. [[User:Reign|Reign]] 21:17, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

I've not read the manga, but I always thought the high-powered team lead by a really overleveled Pikachu made it clear it was supposed to be Ash. I just never got where the Espeon came from, but figured maybe sometime it the anime he would get one to contrast Gary's Umbreon. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 21:41, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

:The only reference to the anime is Red's Pikachu. The other Pokémon were chosen because they were somewhat canonical (ie: Red got Lapras from that Silph scientist, Eevee from the guy in Celadon and Snorlax from when he fought and caught the Snorlax that was blocking the path to Fuchsia). Some could argue that they replaced Espeon with Lapras because of Ash, but that is up to debate. Methinks they did it just so that his team would have only Kanto Pokémon, as a reference to the fact that he was the player character during Gen I. - [[User:Crystal Master|Crystal Master]]
::Yes, I believe this is what happened now. Its based on the player from Yellow. Because in Yellow you can get all these Pokemon from NPCs. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 12:44, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
:::Red in GSC is based on the player of Yellow. But player of Yellow was Red, not Ash. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 13:52, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
::::I disagree. Just because Yellow Red can get all the starters it doesn't mean that G/S/C Red is based on him. Like TTE said, they just gave him all the Gen I starters because they didn't want to canonize a single one. Considering that G/S/C Blue is based in R/G/B Blue and that there are hints in G/S/C that it follows the plot of R/G/B rather than Yellow (such as Cerulean City having the house with the old man who trades Pokémon with you in R/G/B, rather than the house's Yellow counterpart that had the girl who gave Yellow his Bulbasaur), G/S/C Red is based on R/G/B(/Y?) Red. - [[User:Crystal Master|Crystal Master]] 18:50, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

== The article image.. ==

It looks too saturated. What happened, someone changed it? [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 17:58, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Khoury

2009-09-21T11:54:35Z

Tomas: /* protection */

== Based on Gold? ==
The trivia says that he is based on Gold. They look nothing alike. How can they he be based on him. I thought that [[Jimmy]] was. [[User:Solar Dragon|Solar Dragon]] 19:18, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
:I second that, what the heck? [[User:Derian|[[Derian]]]] 19:29, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
::It actually says "Kazunari has the same VA as Jimmy, who (Jimmy) is based on Gold". I guess the wording is kinda funny, though. [[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 19:32, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
:::I did not say he was based on Gold. I said Jimmy is based on Gold. Read more carfully... I just stated that Kazunari shares the same voice actor with Jimmy who is based on Gold. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']]
::::Sorry. Will read more clearly in future before posting comments like that. My eyes are all blurry so that didn't help but sorry again. [[User:Solar Dragon|Solar Dragon]] 19:38, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

== protection ==

why is this protected?and can anyone fix the a a trainer to a trainer?Thank you.--'''{{wp|Wikipedia|Wiki}}'''[[User:Tomas|'''Tomas''']]11:52, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Khoury

2009-09-21T11:52:55Z

Tomas: /* protection */ new section

== Based on Gold? ==
The trivia says that he is based on Gold. They look nothing alike. How can they he be based on him. I thought that [[Jimmy]] was. [[User:Solar Dragon|Solar Dragon]] 19:18, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
:I second that, what the heck? [[User:Derian|[[Derian]]]] 19:29, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
::It actually says "Kazunari has the same VA as Jimmy, who (Jimmy) is based on Gold". I guess the wording is kinda funny, though. [[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 19:32, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
:::I did not say he was based on Gold. I said Jimmy is based on Gold. Read more carfully... I just stated that Kazunari shares the same voice actor with Jimmy who is based on Gold. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']]
::::Sorry. Will read more clearly in future before posting comments like that. My eyes are all blurry so that didn't help but sorry again. [[User:Solar Dragon|Solar Dragon]] 19:38, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

== protection ==

why is this protected?and can anyone fix the a a trainer to a trainer?Thank you.--[[User:Tomas|Tomas]] 11:52, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Ash's friends

2009-09-18T17:28:22Z

Tomas: /* dawn */

... is this page really necessary? --[[User:Pie|Pie]] ~[[User talk:Pie|♪]][[Special:Contributions/Pie|♫]] 23:12, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

:It may serve better transformed into a "main cast" human and Pokémon list for each series. *shrug* --[[User:Argy|Argy]] 23:33, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

::That would work well. I'll begin work on it, with the bare people and Pokémon parts.

== Charts... ==

Think they, or something like them, would be useful on Ash's page, to break down his team over the course of the anime, maybe replacing the current list we have?

Instead of being horizontal, though, it'd be vertical, due to the immense amount of Pokémon he's caught compared to the others. Like below, though I'm going just through Kanto and Orange.
{| {{bluetable2|c}}
|-
! [[Kanto]]
! [[Orange Islands]]
|-
| [[Ash's Pikachu|Pikachu]] (C)
| [[Ash's Lapras|Lapras]] (C)
|-
| [[Ash's Butterfree|Caterpie]] (C)
| [[Ash's Snorlax|Snorlax]] (C)
|-
| [[Ash's Pidgeot|Pidgeotto]] (C)
| [[Ash's Lapras|Lapras]] (R)
|-
| [[Ash's Butterfree|Metapod]] (E)
|-
| [[Ash's Butterfree|Butterfree]] (E)
|-
| [[Ash's Bulbasaur|Bulbasaur]] (C)
|-
| [[Ash's Charizard|Charmander]] (C)
|-
| [[Ash's Squirtle|Squirtle]] (C)
|-
| [[Ash's Kingler|Krabby]] (C)
|-
| [[Ash's Raticate|Raticate]] (T)
|-
| [[Ash's Butterfree|Butterfree]] (R)
|-
| [[Ash's Haunter|Haunter]] (B)
|-
| [[Ash's Haunter|Haunter]] (R)
|-
| [[Ash's Primeape|Primeape]] (C)
|-
| [[Ash's Primeape|Primeape]] (R)
|-
| [[Ash's Muk|Muk]] (C)
|-
| [[Ash's Tauros|Tauros]] (C)
|-
| [[Ash's Charizard|Charmeleon]] (E)
|-
| [[Ash's Charizard|Charizard]] (E)
|-
| [[Ash's Kingler|Kingler]] (E)
|-
| [[Ash's Pidgeot|Pidgeot]] (E, R)
|}

Yeah... Maybe? It'd be nice to have a by-episode breakdown of acquired Pokémon, even, if we could do it, broken up by either anime season or anime series. Opinions? I think it'd be useful for those whowant to see just what Ash's team was as of a particular episode. --'''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 14:39, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
:Er... I don't like it very much, sorry t'say. Though that makes me think; maybe a separate article with a timeline of important anime events... --[[User:Pie|Pie]] ~[[User talk:Pie|♪]][[Special:Contributions/Pie|♫]] 14:43, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
::Yeah, I was thinking we could do that instead, and include all characters' Pokémon. Something like, List of Pokémon owned by main characters in the anime by first appearance? --'''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 04:34, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
:::They're already on the list of anime characters, which goes by order of appearance... I think a timeline of events would be more useful. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] ~[[User talk:Pie|♪]][[Special:Contributions/Pie|♫]] 04:44, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
::::That'd work. --'''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 09:11, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

==The reason why I redirected the page "Team Twerp" to Ash's friends==
The reason why I redirected the page "Team Twerp" to [[Ash's friends]] is because Team Rocket calls Ash and his friends Twerps. Got it-- checked! Noted! Filed! Stored!

User: FREAKAZOID

:Speaking of which... how can you have a main characters page without JJ&M? [[User:Cassius335|Cassius335]] 13:48, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

::Don't ask me. I'm not the one who made the article (not to be rude or anything). [[User: FREAKAZOID]]

== Gary? ==

With DP083's airing, Ash and Gary's rivalry has been resolved for 274 episodes (or a couple more), the same amount of time he was Ash's rival. Shouldn't he be in this article?--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 23:06, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
:No because he never traveled with Ash. This is only for Ash's main friends. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 23:47, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
::How about Jun, as it is confirmed that he is Traveling with Ash(Even though he's a rival)? ~~ [[User Talk:ShinyPikachu|♫☆]][[User:ShinyPikachu|'''ShInYpIkA☆'''''δ'']]~~
:::Todd. If Jun's with Ash for more than ten episodes, we really ought to list him for sure. Less, though, and he's like Todd. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 21:21, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
Thanx and btw, IS wally a rival? I know I shouldn't ask this hear, but no one else will tell me. (Sketch says hes not.) [[User:ShinyPikachu|§hin¥£iΨ@chµ]] 21:36, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

== Rivals ==

Could we make a section(Or page) for Ash and his Friend's rivals(and TTR)? [[User:ShinyPikachu|§hin¥£iΨ@chµ]] 17:40, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
::I've made a sprite of JJM, and I was wondering if it would be of any use in the article. heres the sprite [[Image:Jessie James Meowth.png]] [[User:ShinyPikachu|'ŚĥîΠŶPî₭₳ĉĥŭ']] 02:06, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

== Whopee ==

[[Template:Ashfr|NOW WHAT]]?--[[Flash Fire (ability)|freezing]][[Heat Wave (move)|COLD]] ([[user:Cold|page]], [[User talk:Cold|talk]]) 02:16, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
:Fix it[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((Mock Me]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Edits))]] 02:16, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
::The Template, that is[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((Mock Me]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Edits))]] 02:16, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

== Stuff With The Page ==

Alright, what's happened here, really? One minute, I'm looking at the recent changes to see what got changed and if I could help...... the next minute, the page's title was changed..... the other minute, it was changed back and then protected by {{u|MAGNEDETH}}. What's with all the commotion happening here? In my opinion, "Ash's Friends" was a pretty good title for a pretty good article. So?--[[User:Dragonbeastx|DRAGON]][[User talk:Dragonbeastx|BEAST]][[User:Dragonbeastx/The Aura Spot|X]] 02:35, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
:...isn't it kind of obvious what happened? The page was moved, but MAGNEDETH thought it was fine, moved it back, and protected it from being moved again. End of story. [[Special:Contributions/EspeonA|—]] '''[[User_talk:EspeonA|e]][[User:EspeonA|A]]''' 02:40, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
::pretty much. ill have someone more powerful than me make the final decision however -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 02:44, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
:::That'll solve all of this :) [[User:ShinyPikachu|'ŚĥîΠŶPî₭₳ĉĥŭ']] 02:46, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
::::Every COD that Ash befriends should be on this page based off of the title. What about Conway? What about Ritche? Theyre friends too But their not supproting roles[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((Mock Me]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Edits))]]

Seems like a couple of people thought "Ash's Friends" was too much of a vague title for this article. And, MAG, what do you mean, "someone more powerful"... like, maybe someone like TTE? Right now where TTE stands, '''I''', myself don't know who would be "more powerful" than him, but of course I know about '''all''' the [[Bulbapedia:Administrators|admins]], but right now, he is, "Mr. Super In Charge Guy", we all know. *SIGH* Now, I guess we just wait.......--[[User:Dragonbeastx|DRAGON]][[User talk:Dragonbeastx|BEAST]][[User:Dragonbeastx/The Aura Spot|X]] 03:01, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

== Why do we need the sprites? ==

Misty's is ok, Tracey's just plain hurts my eyes and Max's just has long hair. Why do we need any of the sprites. We can easily just slap in a real picture and it'll serve the same purpose. [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 21:54, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
:I definitely agree with this. The sprites are fanmade, official art or screenshots would work much better. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 22:54, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Should we do that?--[[User:Dragonbeastx|DRAGON]][[User talk:Dragonbeastx|BEAST]][[User:Dragonbeastx/The Aura Spot|X]] 05:33, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

== Jun/Barry ==

Should we add Jun/Barry to this page? [[User:ShinyPikachu|ŚĥîΠŶPî₭₳ĉĥŭ]] 15:59, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
No, he's not a character that has traveled with Ash for at least a generation.--[[User:LatiasGemstone|[[File:Ani419MS.png]]LatiasGemstone[[File:Ani253MS.png]]]] 21:15, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

==Request==

Instead of having the words in the template in present tense like Catch or hatch can it be changed to past tense like caught or hatched? - ''unsigned comment from {{u|Turtwig A}} ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) ''
:That would be advisable. "Given" is already past tense. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 19:27, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
::Ok I changed it [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[Turtwig (Pokémon)|wig]] [[User talk:Turtwig A|A]] '''''[[Special:Contributions/Turtwig_A|Contributions]]''''' 19:44, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

== dawn ==

Why is Dawn's Cyndaquil only "hatched" but not "cought". didn't dawn cought it after it hathed?

Talk:Ash's friends

2009-09-18T17:27:28Z

Tomas: /* dawn */ new section

... is this page really necessary? --[[User:Pie|Pie]] ~[[User talk:Pie|♪]][[Special:Contributions/Pie|♫]] 23:12, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

:It may serve better transformed into a "main cast" human and Pokémon list for each series. *shrug* --[[User:Argy|Argy]] 23:33, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

::That would work well. I'll begin work on it, with the bare people and Pokémon parts.

== Charts... ==

Think they, or something like them, would be useful on Ash's page, to break down his team over the course of the anime, maybe replacing the current list we have?

Instead of being horizontal, though, it'd be vertical, due to the immense amount of Pokémon he's caught compared to the others. Like below, though I'm going just through Kanto and Orange.
{| {{bluetable2|c}}
|-
! [[Kanto]]
! [[Orange Islands]]
|-
| [[Ash's Pikachu|Pikachu]] (C)
| [[Ash's Lapras|Lapras]] (C)
|-
| [[Ash's Butterfree|Caterpie]] (C)
| [[Ash's Snorlax|Snorlax]] (C)
|-
| [[Ash's Pidgeot|Pidgeotto]] (C)
| [[Ash's Lapras|Lapras]] (R)
|-
| [[Ash's Butterfree|Metapod]] (E)
|-
| [[Ash's Butterfree|Butterfree]] (E)
|-
| [[Ash's Bulbasaur|Bulbasaur]] (C)
|-
| [[Ash's Charizard|Charmander]] (C)
|-
| [[Ash's Squirtle|Squirtle]] (C)
|-
| [[Ash's Kingler|Krabby]] (C)
|-
| [[Ash's Raticate|Raticate]] (T)
|-
| [[Ash's Butterfree|Butterfree]] (R)
|-
| [[Ash's Haunter|Haunter]] (B)
|-
| [[Ash's Haunter|Haunter]] (R)
|-
| [[Ash's Primeape|Primeape]] (C)
|-
| [[Ash's Primeape|Primeape]] (R)
|-
| [[Ash's Muk|Muk]] (C)
|-
| [[Ash's Tauros|Tauros]] (C)
|-
| [[Ash's Charizard|Charmeleon]] (E)
|-
| [[Ash's Charizard|Charizard]] (E)
|-
| [[Ash's Kingler|Kingler]] (E)
|-
| [[Ash's Pidgeot|Pidgeot]] (E, R)
|}

Yeah... Maybe? It'd be nice to have a by-episode breakdown of acquired Pokémon, even, if we could do it, broken up by either anime season or anime series. Opinions? I think it'd be useful for those whowant to see just what Ash's team was as of a particular episode. --'''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 14:39, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
:Er... I don't like it very much, sorry t'say. Though that makes me think; maybe a separate article with a timeline of important anime events... --[[User:Pie|Pie]] ~[[User talk:Pie|♪]][[Special:Contributions/Pie|♫]] 14:43, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
::Yeah, I was thinking we could do that instead, and include all characters' Pokémon. Something like, List of Pokémon owned by main characters in the anime by first appearance? --'''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 04:34, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
:::They're already on the list of anime characters, which goes by order of appearance... I think a timeline of events would be more useful. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] ~[[User talk:Pie|♪]][[Special:Contributions/Pie|♫]] 04:44, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
::::That'd work. --'''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 09:11, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

==The reason why I redirected the page "Team Twerp" to Ash's friends==
The reason why I redirected the page "Team Twerp" to [[Ash's friends]] is because Team Rocket calls Ash and his friends Twerps. Got it-- checked! Noted! Filed! Stored!

User: FREAKAZOID

:Speaking of which... how can you have a main characters page without JJ&M? [[User:Cassius335|Cassius335]] 13:48, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

::Don't ask me. I'm not the one who made the article (not to be rude or anything). [[User: FREAKAZOID]]

== Gary? ==

With DP083's airing, Ash and Gary's rivalry has been resolved for 274 episodes (or a couple more), the same amount of time he was Ash's rival. Shouldn't he be in this article?--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 23:06, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
:No because he never traveled with Ash. This is only for Ash's main friends. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 23:47, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
::How about Jun, as it is confirmed that he is Traveling with Ash(Even though he's a rival)? ~~ [[User Talk:ShinyPikachu|♫☆]][[User:ShinyPikachu|'''ShInYpIkA☆'''''δ'']]~~
:::Todd. If Jun's with Ash for more than ten episodes, we really ought to list him for sure. Less, though, and he's like Todd. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 21:21, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
Thanx and btw, IS wally a rival? I know I shouldn't ask this hear, but no one else will tell me. (Sketch says hes not.) [[User:ShinyPikachu|§hin¥£iΨ@chµ]] 21:36, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

== Rivals ==

Could we make a section(Or page) for Ash and his Friend's rivals(and TTR)? [[User:ShinyPikachu|§hin¥£iΨ@chµ]] 17:40, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
::I've made a sprite of JJM, and I was wondering if it would be of any use in the article. heres the sprite [[Image:Jessie James Meowth.png]] [[User:ShinyPikachu|'ŚĥîΠŶPî₭₳ĉĥŭ']] 02:06, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

== Whopee ==

[[Template:Ashfr|NOW WHAT]]?--[[Flash Fire (ability)|freezing]][[Heat Wave (move)|COLD]] ([[user:Cold|page]], [[User talk:Cold|talk]]) 02:16, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
:Fix it[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((Mock Me]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Edits))]] 02:16, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
::The Template, that is[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((Mock Me]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Edits))]] 02:16, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

== Stuff With The Page ==

Alright, what's happened here, really? One minute, I'm looking at the recent changes to see what got changed and if I could help...... the next minute, the page's title was changed..... the other minute, it was changed back and then protected by {{u|MAGNEDETH}}. What's with all the commotion happening here? In my opinion, "Ash's Friends" was a pretty good title for a pretty good article. So?--[[User:Dragonbeastx|DRAGON]][[User talk:Dragonbeastx|BEAST]][[User:Dragonbeastx/The Aura Spot|X]] 02:35, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
:...isn't it kind of obvious what happened? The page was moved, but MAGNEDETH thought it was fine, moved it back, and protected it from being moved again. End of story. [[Special:Contributions/EspeonA|—]] '''[[User_talk:EspeonA|e]][[User:EspeonA|A]]''' 02:40, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
::pretty much. ill have someone more powerful than me make the final decision however -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 02:44, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
:::That'll solve all of this :) [[User:ShinyPikachu|'ŚĥîΠŶPî₭₳ĉĥŭ']] 02:46, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
::::Every COD that Ash befriends should be on this page based off of the title. What about Conway? What about Ritche? Theyre friends too But their not supproting roles[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((Mock Me]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Edits))]]

Seems like a couple of people thought "Ash's Friends" was too much of a vague title for this article. And, MAG, what do you mean, "someone more powerful"... like, maybe someone like TTE? Right now where TTE stands, '''I''', myself don't know who would be "more powerful" than him, but of course I know about '''all''' the [[Bulbapedia:Administrators|admins]], but right now, he is, "Mr. Super In Charge Guy", we all know. *SIGH* Now, I guess we just wait.......--[[User:Dragonbeastx|DRAGON]][[User talk:Dragonbeastx|BEAST]][[User:Dragonbeastx/The Aura Spot|X]] 03:01, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

== Why do we need the sprites? ==

Misty's is ok, Tracey's just plain hurts my eyes and Max's just has long hair. Why do we need any of the sprites. We can easily just slap in a real picture and it'll serve the same purpose. [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 21:54, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
:I definitely agree with this. The sprites are fanmade, official art or screenshots would work much better. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 22:54, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Should we do that?--[[User:Dragonbeastx|DRAGON]][[User talk:Dragonbeastx|BEAST]][[User:Dragonbeastx/The Aura Spot|X]] 05:33, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

== Jun/Barry ==

Should we add Jun/Barry to this page? [[User:ShinyPikachu|ŚĥîΠŶPî₭₳ĉĥŭ]] 15:59, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
No, he's not a character that has traveled with Ash for at least a generation.--[[User:LatiasGemstone|[[File:Ani419MS.png]]LatiasGemstone[[File:Ani253MS.png]]]] 21:15, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

==Request==

Instead of having the words in the template in present tense like Catch or hatch can it be changed to past tense like caught or hatched? - ''unsigned comment from {{u|Turtwig A}} ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) ''
:That would be advisable. "Given" is already past tense. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 19:27, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
::Ok I changed it [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[Turtwig (Pokémon)|wig]] [[User talk:Turtwig A|A]] '''''[[Special:Contributions/Turtwig_A|Contributions]]''''' 19:44, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

== dawn ==

Why is Dawn's Cyndacuil only "hatched" but not "cought". didn't dawn cought it after it hathed?