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Talk:Alola Route 8

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== Route 5 entrance Zygarde cell ==

I'm not 100% sure, but I believe it only shows up in the day. I've already collected it, and don't have two copies of the game, though, so further testing is required.

--[[User:Omega Metroid|Omega Metroid]] ([[User talk:Omega Metroid|talk]]) 19:12, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

Talk:Lilligant (Pokémon)

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== Arabian/Belly Dancer ==

Does anybody else get a sort of Arabian/Belly Dancer vibe off Doredia/Liligant? It might be because the leaves on her legs remind me of the sort of attire Arabian dancers wear...plus her feet look like those Arabian style shoes. (I have no name for them unfortunately)

Not all arabian dancers wear puffed dresses like that though...maybe I'm thinking of some other oriental dance wear? Sort of like genie pants?

[[User:Sabrewulf238|Sabrewulf238]] 22:18, 24 February 2011 (UTC) Sean (Sabrewulf238)

:I think you might be on to something. It's the exposed midriff that makes me think that, but I believe you're right about the pants. --[[User:Element03|Element03]] 15:59, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

== By a prior evolution? ==

What? Sinse when has that been there? They're not even moves that Lilligant learns, its pre-evo does. [[User:Takharii|'''たか''']][[User talk:Takharii|'''はり''']][[Special:Contributions/Takharii|'''い''']] 04:30, 13 March 2011 (UTC)
::Okay then? Nevermind. I though it was just some noob adding something that doesn't need to be there, but maybe not. Forgive me :P [[User:Takharii|'''たか''']][[User talk:Takharii|'''はり''']][[Special:Contributions/Takharii|'''い''']] 05:02, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

==Breeders==
How is Lilligant popular with Breeders? [[User:RedYoshi|RedYoshi]] 18:19, 6 August 2011 (UTC)
:I don't know how that got in there. Removed. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 14:03, 7 August 2011 (UTC)
==Exclusive==
Eh? Why Lilligant is said to be exclusive to White? You still can evolve Petilil from a trade, can't you? [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] 19:08, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
:I've fixed this and the one on Whimsicott's page. '''X'''[[User:Vuvuzela2010|'''Vuvuzela2010''']]'''X''' 19:20, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

==Fake Tears?==
What's up with Fake Tears being listed as an egg move? I tried to breed it onto her today and it didn't work. She didn't even make eggs.[[User:Rimas lxbya|Rimas lxbya]] 00:29, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
:She has to be bred with a male Mawile, Plusle, or Minun that already knows Fake Tears. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 00:34, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
::I tried it with a male Mawhile and a male Plusle and neither of them even made eggs with the Lilligant. They both knew Fake Tears too. [[User:Rimas lxbya|Rimas lxbya]] 17:01, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
:::There are two promblems: Lilligant isn't in the Fairy Egg group and Fake Tears isn't actually its Egg move. Somebody just confused Cottonee with Petilil.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|電禅]][[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|Den Zen]]''' 17:16, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

== Gen VI move list. ==

So, here's all the information I have (so far) about the changes Gen VI brought to its move list. Anyone else is free to contribute, and the list can be moved to the main article by anyone who knows the correct markup for doing so. I might not be able to check the moves from Lv.45 or earlier, depending on if I have another Sun Stone. Tilde Tilde Tilde Tilde [[User:Omega Metroid|Omega Metroid]] ([[User talk:Omega Metroid|talk]]) 23:26, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

* Learns [[Petal Dance]] at Lv.46 (added by [[User:Omega Metroid|Omega Metroid]] ([[User talk:Omega Metroid|talk]]) 23:26, 20 January 2014 (UTC)).
* Learns [[Petal Blizzard]] at Lv.50 (added by [[User:Omega Metroid|Omega Metroid]] ([[User talk:Omega Metroid|talk]]) 23:26, 20 January 2014 (UTC)).

Talk:Porygon2 (Pokémon)

2014-01-18T03:20:45Z

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==Body type==
I think Porygon2 looks more like [[Image:Body05.png]][[User:Yami Takashi|Yami]] 19:18, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
==Trivia==
"Only in Generation II, this pokémon can use both effects of curse" What happened in Gen III to keep this from happening? Me and my fellow torchics agree on this - Sk8torchic 20:10, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
:Curse is learnt via a TM in Generation II. Porygon/2 can no longer obtain Curse in Generation III and later. [[User:Gywall|'''Gywall''']]([[User_talk:Gywall|Talk]]) 20:12, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

::Although it is technically still possible to use both effects of Curse on the same Pokémon, even as of [[Generation IV]]. Have a {{p|Smeargle}} get Curse, Conversion, and a Ghost-type move through Sketch. Use Curse to get the stat-altering effect, then use Conversion to switch Smeargle's type to Ghost, then use Curse again to get the HP-cutting effect. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 20:29, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

:::What if that fails miserably and Smeargle turns into a ???-type? Me and my fellow torchics agree on this - Sk8torchic 21:02, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
::::Conversion won't work if you only have Curse. They thought of it. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:55, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

== Gen VI move list ==

So, Porygon2 can learn the following moves by leveling up. Update the list as you find more, so whoever edits the main article has a full list ready. Tilde Tilde Tilde Tilde [[User:Omega Metroid|Omega Metroid]] ([[User talk:Omega Metroid|talk]]) 03:20, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

* [[Conversion]] is learned at Lv.1 (added by [[User:Omega Metroid|Omega Metroid]] ([[User talk:Omega Metroid|talk]]) 03:20, 18 January 2014 (UTC)).
* [[Conversion 2]] is learned at Lv.1 (added by [[User:Omega Metroid|Omega Metroid]] ([[User talk:Omega Metroid|talk]]) 03:20, 18 January 2014 (UTC)).
* [[Defense Curl]] is learned at Lv.1 (added by [[User:Omega Metroid|Omega Metroid]] ([[User talk:Omega Metroid|talk]]) 03:20, 18 January 2014 (UTC)).
* [[Magic Coat]] is learned at Lv.1 (added by [[User:Omega Metroid|Omega Metroid]] ([[User talk:Omega Metroid|talk]]) 03:20, 18 January 2014 (UTC)).
* [[Tackle]] is learned at Lv.1 (added by [[User:Omega Metroid|Omega Metroid]] ([[User talk:Omega Metroid|talk]]) 03:20, 18 January 2014 (UTC)).
* [[Zap Cannon]] is learned at Lv.1 (added by [[User:Omega Metroid|Omega Metroid]] ([[User talk:Omega Metroid|talk]]) 03:20, 18 January 2014 (UTC)).

It can also relearn [[Sharpen]] from the move relearner, due to Porygon now learning it at Lv.1 (added by [[User:Omega Metroid|Omega Metroid]] ([[User talk:Omega Metroid|talk]]) 03:20, 18 January 2014 (UTC)).

Talk:Porygon (Pokémon)

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== Bred moves ==

How come there's no section on Porygon's bred moves?? [[User:Count Caterpie|Count]] [[User talk:Count Caterpie|Caterpie]] 13:05, 21 November 2007
:That's because Porygon can only breed with Ditto... '''[[User:Optimus35|Agent]] [[User talk:Optimus35|#448]]''' [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?limit=50&title=Special%3AContributions&contribs=user&target=Optimus35&namespace=0&year=&month=-1 ☆] | [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZPMmUEHFIU ♥] 08:33, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

== Paper Crane ==

is it just me or does Porygon look like a paper crane

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z261/Dakclaw/PaperCrane.jpg- ''unsigned comment from [[User:Dakclaw|Dakclaw]] ([[User talk:Dakclaw|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Dakclaw|contribs]]){{ #if: | {{{2}}} |}}''

Well...sort of, in the sense they're both 'squarey'. If Pokemon in My Pokemon Ranch look like origami, does that mean Porygon will look normal? [[User:Bttsstewart|Bttsstewart]] 13:54, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Is there actually any support for this paper crane theory? As far as I can see, the similarities are marginal, at best. The Japanese sources I've checked make no mention of a connection to a paper crane, and just talk about the English word "polygon". Unless someone has a reference for this, I'm changing the Origin section back. --[[User:Sensei Hanzo|Sensei Hanzo]] ([[User talk:Sensei Hanzo|talk]]) 15:16, 16 December 2013 (UTC)

== Porygon and Team Rocket ==

Doesn't it strike all of you as suspicious that initially, Porygon is ONLY obtainable through a Team Rocket-run establishment? Not to mention, Porygon was developed in Pokémon Lab, which presumably has some connection to the Pokémon Mansion, where Mewtwo was supposedly created in the games? And as we all know, anime-wise anyway, Team Rocket was responsible for Mewtwo. AND, the only in-game trainers that use Porygon are in league with Team Rocket! So, is it possible that Porygon was, in fact, created by [[Team Rocket scientists]]? I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 13:43, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
:Hmm. This is a kind of cross-canon analysis. Maybe note this? Just don't get too into "OMGZ PORYGON IZ TR'S!!" '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 16:52, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

::Jessie and James also used a Porygon in [[EP038|that infamous episode]]. I'm not sure where they got it, though. I think they stole it. I only saw the episode once. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 20:22, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

== Intro of the movies ==

The trivia section states that Porygon's been in the intro of one movie - however, I think several movie sections state that "like the other movie, Porygon is shown in the intro yada yada".. I think I've seen this mentioned in at least four movies, but to be honest, I've never paid attention to whether or not Porygon is in a movie, so could someone please clarify this? [[User:Sipulichu|Sipulichu]] 18:22, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

:The trivia links to [[Pokémon Heroes]]. The movie's trivia section states that the intro for this movie was the same as the ones before it. I do remember seeing a Porygon in at least one movie, it was peering from behind a fence. I think that was the fifth movie, but I don't remember the intro of the first four. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 18:50, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
:: The "Pokémon World" opening was only used for the fourth and fifth movies. In the appearances section of the article it stated it was used for "the first five movies" and the trivia section stated it was used for only "one of the movies". I changed both statements XD [[User:Moltres93|Moltres93]] 12:06, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

== Platinum ==

Any truth to the rumors that you can get one pre-national dex on pokemon platinum? That's what it says [http://www.pokemonplatinum.net/ here] (you have to scroll a bit down). It'd be stunning news if it were true... But I havn't seen anyone talk about it, even to say it's fake. [[User:Noname|Noname]]

Yes you get it in Veilstone City from a guy in the house just above the PokeCenter.
25th level given free.
And of course as an event based pokemon save and reset until you get what you like.
( Mine has IVs of 30HP-25ATT-29DEF-23SA-15SD-29SP give or take one on each stat ) {{unsigned|Chromehawk}}

== '''''4''''' Signature Moves!? ==

I thought there were only '''''3''''': {{m|Sharpen}}, {{m|Conversion}}, and {{m|Conversion 2}}. If there ''is'' a 4th one (and I doubt there is), what is it? I really don't think there is one, though, because the trivia says that Porygon is tied with {{p|Vespiquen}} for having the most signature moves, and she only has 3: {{m|Attack Order}}, {{m|Defend Order}}, and {{m|Heal Order}}. {{unsigned|SharKing}}

:In the case for the first Generation, I believe that said Signature Move would be Tri-Attack. Though it has changed in later generations, it did not change the fact that only a handful of Pokemon can learn this move. [[User:HechEff|HechEff]] 03:02, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
::Dodrio could learn it. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Nos hablamos?]] 03:05, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

:True... But Tri-Attack was still pretty 'rare' in terms of who can learn it back then, no? [[User:HechEff|HechEff]] 14:34, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
::It was a TM. [[User:IIMarckus|IIMarckus]] 00:27, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

:::{{m|Zap Cannon}}, {{m|Sharpen}}, {{m|Conversion}}, and {{m|Conversion 2}}. Tri attack was naturally learned by {{p|Magneton}}, {{p|Dodrio}}, and {{p|Dugtrio}} anyway. Zap Cannon expanded after Gen I. --- Aura-Knight 00:31, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
::::Zap Cannon did not exist in Gen I. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Nos hablamos?]] 00:35, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::Darn it, checked that myself just now. Then the article is wrong, while Porygon is one of the few to naturally learn Zap Cannon, it was a TM in [[Gen II]]. --- Aura-Knight 00:38, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

== Porygon fits body style 5 better then 7 ==

I changed the body style to 5 because it fits Porygon better. I did the same with Porygon2 (which had nothing on the talk page) and changed Porygon-Z to body type 9. [[User:Yami Takashi|Yami]] 19:23, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

==LEGO==

I was on LEGO.com one day and I noticed that one of the creations was a Porygon!
From your friendly neighborhood Charizard--[[User:Ultamatecharizard]]

==Number 1337==
Did anyone notice that Porygon's Kanto/National number (#137) is very close to "[[Wikipedia:leet|1337]]" which is Internet Speak for "leet"? It references the fact that it is a Pokémon made entirely out of coding. Even if it were an unlikely coincidence, it still is pretty cool! -- [[User:Zedd|Zedd]] 20:10, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
:If it's a coincidence, that's a very good one. Thanks for pointing it out! [[User:HechEff|HechEff]] 23:41, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
::While it wasn't before the creation of 1337, I'd doubt that the (at the time) underground American Hacker culture was relevant to the dex number to Japanese makers. --- Aura-Knight 00:38, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

== "Wild" Porygon in the Trophy Garden ==

While technically true, isn't it because they were 'released' into the garden by Urayama/Mr.Backlot? [[User:HechEff|HechEff]] 23:40, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
:Indeed, that is why. Well, it's because they were placed by his SERVANT, actually, but, close enough. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Nos hablamos?]] 23:45, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
::Really depends. Ive always thought of them as being wild in the garden, and when it was mowed over for a building, they were captured, and were released back into captivity when told to.[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]] 01:46, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
Which got me curious; considering the fact that Porygon has both states of being either data (energy?) and material (as a Pokémon) at a given time. Though they will be considered "wild" when released, it is certainly not in the same sense as wild Pidgey or even "naturally occured" Legendary Pokemon... [[User:HechEff|HechEff]] 02:55, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

== Anyone notice ==

Everyone is talking about how it wasn't Porygon who caused the seizures but yet Porygon is banned. Well, I think I have a good reason why, but i need some aproval. Does anyone think that Porygon could be banned because of itself being both blue nad red. It should only be put in trivia because it is pure speculation. --[[User:Landfish7| Land]][[User talk:Landfish7|fish]][[User talk:Landfish7|7]] 01:19, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
:What? Its banned because of the colors it is? WRONG[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((Mock Me]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Edits))]] 01:23, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

== Edit request ==

→Pokedex entries
:<nowiki>|heartgolddex=It is a manmade Pokémon. Since it doesn't breathe, people are eager to try it in any environment.</nowiki>
♥ [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 02:46, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Why is Porygon-Z in the "Curse" section of the Trivia?--[[User:Makupe|Makupe]] 22:05, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

== Old picture. ==

Why does the picture of Porygon come from Pokemon ''Red and Green''? Can someone tell me if I've done something wrong with this (i'm relatively new). 20:55, 1 September 2010. [[User:Pikabuddy II|Pikabuddy II]] 08:55, 1 September 2010 (UTC) [[User: Pikabuddy II]]
:TTE's introduced some coding that makes it show the older art on the anniversaries of release of certain games. Today's the anniversary of RB, so the Gen I Pokémon get their Gen I art. Note that the Main Page is also red and blue for the same reason. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 09:21, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

== #137 ==

Zedd already brought up the possible reference to 1337, but I think the more likely alternative is that is was based on the {{wp|Fine-Structure Constant}} since it is a scientific Pokémon. [[User:Frankjohnson123|Frankjohnson123]] 21:22, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

==Not first man-made Pokémon?==

According to Golurks Pokédex entry: "It is said that Golurk were ordered to protect people and Pokémon by the ancient people who made them." Does that mean that Golurk were actually the first Pokémon that were man-made? [[User:Pikiwyn|'''Pikiwyn''']] [[User talk:Pikiwyn|<tt>'''''talk'''''</tt>]] 16:09, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
:Hmmm, I don't know... May be the first in the overall timeline, but Porygon was released first. [[User:Questioner|Questioner]] 21:15, 3 November 2011 (UTC)

== Irony ==

Isn't it ironic that when transfered to Gold and Silver that Porygon is holding a bitter berry? [[User:Ordelore|Ordelore]] ([[User talk:Ordelore|talk]]) 16:09, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
:Do you care to explain your reasoning? I don't see how this is [http://thatsnotironic.com/ ironic] at all. Do you mean because it's electronic and therefore can't taste? Because I'd say (a) that's really more coincidental than ironic, and (b) it's also completely trivial and isn't worth adding to the article. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 18:44, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

== Learnable moves ==

So... Porygon's moveset, as of gen VI, is...
Tilde Tilde Tilde Tilde [[User:Omega Metroid|Omega Metroid]] ([[User talk:Omega Metroid|talk]]) 02:50, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

Level-up moves:
* [[Conversion]] learned at Lv.1.
* [[Tackle]] learned at Lv.1.
* [[Conversion 2]] learned at Lv.1.
* [[Sharpen]] learned at Lv.1.

Talk:Snivy (Pokémon)

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I can't edit for some reason, but
-Snivy is listed as the Japanese name
-In the name origin section, the "Sni" may also refer to snide.[[User:Chiramii|Chiramii]] 00:05, 23 November 2010 (UTC)Chiramii

== origin ==
Given that the "ja" means "snake" (acording to Pokebeach), I think it is safe to assume that Tsutaaja is based on a snake. Mind putting that in the page? --[[User:Deuxhero|Deuxhero]] 00:54, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

The same post that told us these names on 2ch, said Tsutaaja is the くさへびポケモン (Grass Snake Pokémon).
Tsuta (蔦) means ivy and Ja is another reading for hebi (蛇), which means snake.--[[User:KurowaSan|KurowaSan]] 01:02, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
:How many snakes do you know have feet? I doubt that is a correct translation. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 01:34, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
::The translation is pretty accurate, the source may be not. But the source has nailed the description of the protagonists, the region name, the fact that the other starters were a fire pig and a sea otter before the scans leaked... And I have seen freaky snakes with legs.. XD Mutations nonetheless. And that would be "Grass Snake" as in a snake of/from grass, not as in the real world species "Grass Snake".--[[User:KurowaSan|KurowaSan]] 01:41, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
:::There actually is a type of snake with legs, albeit really small ones. It's native to Australia, if I remember right. I know they have one at the Cairns Zoo, anyway. [[User:Reign|Reign]] 02:13, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
:::: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opheodrys_aestivus this doesn't have feet, but it looks like tsutaaja [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 12:38, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
::::: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxybelis_fulgidus I would sooner assume Tsutaaja is based off of a Vine Snake. In fact, I'd say it's fairly definite. [[User:Flint|Flint]] 20:50, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::: I think Origin should just mention grass snakes (green kind mostly) instead of getting very technical with species, seeing as there is far too many snakes that Tsutaaja may be based on. And maybe that early tidbit of a very few snakes having legs could also be mentioned. And is it just me, or does the collar it has kinda makes it resemble an unripened banana? [[User:Mudkipchan|Mudkipchan]] 21:07, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
::::::: It looks to me as though Tsutaaja may have been based off of a skink of sort, however skinks are closer related to lisards than snakes. I also think because this is a Pokémon that the collaring may have just as likely come from the fact that it is a grass type species. [[User:EpicShadow|EpicShadow]] 9:12, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

I feel there is a strong South and Central Americas theme in the starter lineup for this generation, but I seem to be running into a lot of opposition to my findings. Each thing that I have added to the Origin and Name Origin sections to the 3 starters to support my theory has been undone not less than 20 minutes after adding it despite my efforts to keep it a neutral "possibility" instead of hard fact.

Please look into these ideas and help me:
Snivy's decided snake of origin is listed as the Green Vine Snake which is native to the South and Central Americas.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Vine_Snake

Tepig's name sounds like Tapir which is a browsing mammal similar to a pig. There is a South American Tapir. Tepig's coloring is similar to the Asian Malayan Tapir, though I realize this may be coincidence as Asia is not in South America. ;)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_American_Tapir
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malayan_Tapir

Oshawott may be based on the Marine Otter if my theory is correct; not the Sea Otter. The Marine Otter is native to South American shores and is the most marine of all South American otter types. Its name also sounds ''an awful lot'' like "Ocelot" (native to South/Central Americas), which I found odd because it is obviously based on the otter. But Wikipedia states that the Marine Otter's colloquial nickname is "Gato Marino" which means "marine cat". Coincidence? I think Oshanott!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marine_otter
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ocelot

Just sayin'.
--[[User:GrowlitheandEkans|GrowlitheandEkans]] 03:05, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

== bad grammar in the Origin section ==

Can we fix this?: "Tsutaaja may be based off a lizard or a snake. Its shared traits with boths make it similar to skinks."
It should be "... with both makes it similar...". my dictionary and i are fairly sure "boths" isn't a word and the grammar in that sentence is atrocious anyway. --[[User:Lulu chan126|Lulu chan126]] 22:26, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

== images ==

Uhh, I have the three guys images saved, to upload, if a mod can do that...
[http://img24.imageshack.us/i/497pokabu.png/][http://img219.imageshack.us/i/500mijumaru.png/][http://img10.imageshack.us/i/494tsutaaja.png/] [[User:Megadog|Megadog]] 05:12, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

:As do I, but I Beilieve the Admin isn't allowing editing for those Images . . . not that any are even there. --[[User:Lordrogersmith6485|Lordrogersmith6485]] 07:58, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
::I've seen them on Legendary Pokémon fan site. Not sure if it is okay to use them. '''[[User:Kevzo8|Kev]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|zo8]]''' 13:27, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
:::sprites too, along with zoroark's...[http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/1666/spritesu.png] {{unsigned|Megadog}}

== height ==

the height and weight of it is 0.6 m and 8.1 kg {{unsigned|Pokemonemerfan1954}}
:Got a source that isn't Serebii? —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 10:57, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
::Filb.de, trom. '''[[User:Kevzo8|Kev]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|zo8]]''' 13:36, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

== Acceptable Speculation? ==
Is it alright to add in details that have been present for all of the Pokemon starters so far; such as EXP At Level 100, EXP Yield, and Gender Ratio? After four generations of Pokemon games having them identical, it's highly unlikely to be different this time. [[User:Plasma|Plasma]] 11:36, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
:Passing off unsourced speculation as fact is bad. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 11:45, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
:: You say that, but the starters all have National Dex numbers (494, etc.). Where does ''that'' information come from? I know it's an educated guess, but at the moment it's still just a guess. The same goes for the types - do we know they're all pure types? ~ [[User:Serial Colour|Serial Colour]] 13:46, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
:::We know at least one of their types. So we put that. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 18:28, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
::::Should we at least list their secondary types as {{type|???}} to indicate that we only know their primary types? -[[User:KinCryos|KinCryos]] 07:19, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

== Name romanization ==

Why are we romanizing the name as "Tsutaaja"? {{bp|Manual of style/Romanization}} states that macrons should be used instead of doubling letters, unless the trademarked romanization begs to differ. And there is no trademarked romanization (I scoured the trademark database last night) - we don't even have official confirmation that these ''are'' the starters' names.

I mean, I personally don't like macrons, but shouldn't we romanize it as "Tsutāja," as per the MoS? [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 17:45, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
:Most people would link to the redirect anyway... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 17:57, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
::Shouldn't we just call it Tsutaja? When {{p|Piplup|Pocchama}} was first revealed it was just romanized as Pochama on this site. [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 21:47, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
:::It's not going to stick this way anyway, I'd just leave it. Unless we rename the page [http://kotaku.com/5538319/pokemons-smugleaf-a-meme-in-the-making/ Smugleaf]. - [[User:DanPMK|MK]] ([[User Talk:DanPMK|t]]/[[Special:contributions/DanPMK|c]]) 03:22, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

::::No, we should use this name 'tsutaaja' till we don't gate its official English name..! -{{u|Amitrc7th}}

:::::FYI, this site would prefer to use trademarked romaji if it's available. We never romanized ポッチャマ as Potchama or Pocchama because we were given both the official katakana and the official romaji (Pochama) on the same day. We should have official romaji soon, and I'm pretty sure that no official romaji has ever used a macron, so this whole issue should be a moot point soon. [[User:Drapion|Drapion]] 06:59, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

== Height and Weight ==

Got this from Pokebeach:

Height: 0.6m (2ft)

Weight: 8.1kg (17.9Ibs) --[[User:Dialgafan1|Dialgafan1]] 00:02, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

:Well, you don't really have to look at pokebeach for that one. You can just look at the scans. XD
:But yeah, those (in metric system) are accurate. And I don't really understand why haven't anyone added those. o_O They added the ability and species, but those are on the very same scan as height and weight. Also, the name origin is pretty much a given already. Can someone add all those, please?--[[User:KurowaSan|KurowaSan]] 04:56, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

== In the anime ==
Tsutarja, is a reptile-based [[Grass-type]] [[starter]] Pokémon. Since [[Ash Ketchum]] (Satoshi) has captured all the Grass-type starters and most of reptile-like Pokémons, it is highly possible that he will get this Pokémon somehow in Black and White saga (if he is going to appear in this anime saga). -{{u|Amitrc7th}}
:That's speculation. Bulbapedia has rules against speculation, so it won't be added to the page until he catches it (if he does). By the way, please put new comments at the bottom of the page. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 08:47, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
::Please bring these conversation to the forums.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Ho-Oh (Pokémon)|orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Lugia (Pokémon)|ire]] 10:24, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

== Sprite ==

Here's the sprite I uploaded onto Bulbagarden Archives from CoroCoro: [[User:Dialgafan1|Dialgafan1]] 18:44, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

== This needs to be moved. ==

To Tsutāja. You know, long a's and stuff. [[User:Vik0z0z|vik0z0z]] 19:45, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

:I believe that the reason the article is at Tsutaaja for the time being is that we want to avoid using extraneous characters whenever possible in page titles. For some reason, it puts a strain on the server. At least, that's what I recall us deciding awhile back... I could be wrong, though. Either way, the double "a" indicates the same sound without the special character. --[[User:Politoed666|''P'' ''o'']] [[User talk:Politoed666|''L'' ''i'']] 19:48, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

==Origin==
Haven't you noted Tsutaaja's striking resemblance to {{wp|Uroplatus phantasticus|this gecko}}? A reptile with a tail that looks like a leaf. It has rather huge eyes, too, just like Tsutaaja. - [[User:D-Wheel|D-Wheel]] 21:34, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
:Eh it's a possibility, but since it's a "snake" Pokémon I doubt it...[[User:.insomniac.|«ιɴsσ]]м[[User_talk:.insomniac.|ɴιαc»]] 07:35, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
::But do we have any snakes that also have a leaf-like tail? Sure snakes with legs exist, but Tsutaaja does seem to have characteristics of both snakes and lizards. I don't think this debate will ever end... [[User:Mudkipchan|Mudkipchan]] 16:33, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
:::Hey look, it's a {{p|Treecko}}. [[User:M190049|'''''~m190049''''']][[User talk:M190049|'''''~talk''''']] 00:42, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
:::I really think this might be a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass_Snake glass snake]. They're actually lizards, but they resemble snakes. The leafy tail must be just decoration. :P -- [[User:Pro-mole|Professional Mole]] ([[User talk:Pro-mole|Talk here]]) 14:04, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
:We will know more about this Pokémon come the English-language release (or, if we're lucky, the Jp release). Until then we will go on the most vague sort of information we've got. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 06:46, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

== Physiology ==

"Tsutaaja is a Grass-type lizard-like Pokémon. "
That should read "Tsutaaja is a Grass-type Snake Pokemon" or "snake-like Pokemon"

It's Japanese name and species name clearly define it as a snake, regardless of whether or not it has legs, officially, it is a snake. -Daisuke
:Appearance wise, it's a lizard.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Ho-Oh (Pokémon)|orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Lugia (Pokémon)|ire]] 04:16, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
::Not necesarilly. There ''are'' types of snakes with legs. If anyone has a list of animals at Cairns Zoo in Queensland, Australia, they have them there. [[User:Reign|Reign]] 08:05, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

== Name dispute ==

As stated [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/showthread.php?t=63621 here], http://www.pokabu.com/ and http://www.mijumaru.com/ are both correctly registered by TPCi, but there's no tsutaaja.com. There is a correctly registered http://www.tsutarja.com/ though. This is the closest we'll get right now to a trademarked name, and this romanization has been used on other sites before. Should this be changed?--'''[[User:Immewnity|''immewnity'']][[User talk:Immewnity|the]][[Special:Contributions/Immewnity|mew]]''' 18:21, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
:Meh, I say keep it as it is, and create Tsutarja as a redirect. [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 18:25, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
::How come? That was a fandone romanization, while this one's official.--'''[[User:Immewnity|''immewnity'']][[User talk:Immewnity|the]][[Special:Contributions/Immewnity|mew]]''' 18:39, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
:::Aren't all romanizations fandone at heart? [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 18:56, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
::::...no... It's called [[List of Japanese Pokémon names|trademarked romaji]].--'''[[User:Immewnity|''immewnity'']][[User talk:Immewnity|the]][[Special:Contributions/Immewnity|mew]]''' 19:00, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::Hm, it seems then that it is Tsutarja. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:00, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
As well, Filb is calling the Pokémon Tsutāja. Is this just another romanization of the name? –'''[[User:MasterKenobi|Master]][[User talk:MasterKenobi|Kenobi]]''' 05:52, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
:Yes. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 05:57, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
::I still don't understand. It's written Tsutaaja, on the show they pronounce it Tsutaaja, there's no other way to read it than Tsutaaja...But they call its Tsutarja? There's a big difference. If it was Tsutarja, it would probably be ツタアルジャ, not　ツタアージャ. --[[User:Raktoner|Raktoner]] 19:45, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
:::No, that is not how it works. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 19:46, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
::::They ''did'' pronounce it as "tah-jah" on Pokemon Sunday though. If that means anything. [[User:M190049|'''''~m190049''''']][[User talk:M190049|'''''~talk''''']] 23:49, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::Five char limit in Pokemon, even if they changed the limit for JP games... it wouldn't be ツタアージャ (romanized as "Tsutaa'aja", I believe?), and "アー" can be romanized as an "ar" sometimes. Also... I'm pretty sure they also pronounced "Pocket Monsters" as "poketto monsutaa" on Pokesun (from what I can hear anyway, they talk too faaaaaast). So yeah. D: ▫▫'''[[User:Tina|ティナ]]'''[[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|★]] 00:03, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
:::Actually there isn't a big difference between Tsutaaja and Tsutarja. It's called a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhotic_and_non-rhotic_accents non-rhotic] r. You may have noticed that people from London or Boston tend to not pronounce the letter r when it's and the end of a word or before a consonant. Well, in Japanese the r sound can only ever come before a vowel, so when the letter r is at the end of a word or before a consonant they tend to approximate the sound with a long a, sometimes written aa. Take my name, Peter, for example. Someone from London or Boston would probably drop the r sound at the end, and likewise the Japanese approximate it as ピーター and pronounce it Piitaa. R's before consonants or at the ends of words are almost always approximated by a long a and not a ル. {{unsigned|Drapion}}
::::Exactly, what Drapion said! I still pronounce it the same!--[[User:Pokelova|''Poké'']][[User talk:Pokelova|lova!]] 07:51, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::Actually, that's really interesting. And to think I put a rant about this on pokecharms the other day... But you're right. I just think it's a little on the odd side is all, I guess. --[[User:Raktoner|Raktoner]] 22:35, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
::::::Heh yeah the whole thing is sort of strange. Basically they're using an english-ish pronunciation and putting that into Japanese. Using ā for ar/er is common for this. Hamburger is ハンバーガー (hanbāgā), Earnest is アーネスト (ānesuto), Schumaker is シュメイカー (shumeikā), etc. - [[User:DanPMK|MK]] ([[User Talk:DanPMK|t]]/[[Special:contributions/DanPMK|c]]) 03:10, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

== Bird of Paradise Flower ==

I know that the new pokemon is based on a grass snake, but if you look at it's snout and it's tail, it reminds me of a {{wp|Strelitzia}} a.k.a. the Bird of Paradise Flower. I know that this is a foolish question, but I suggest that you should put that in to what the new pokemon is based of in Origin? - [[User:Cynthia149]] 09:12, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
:I believe this got a "no" when you suggested it before... [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 18:56, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
:: I contacted that question to [[User:TTEchidna]] weeks ago, and he said that the origin will be changed when more info is unleashed. You have a look at the flower when the pod is closed, and then you will see the resembelence to this new Pokemon. - [[User:Cynthia149]] 20:46, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
:::If that's what he said, then that's what we're going by. We have not gotten any more information on the starters since then. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 19:51, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
::::When the information is ''unleashed''? Is it going to turn into a [[wp:Sonic Unleashed|werewolf?]] -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 23:58, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

==Moves==

According to a video, This pokemon either used Razor Leaf or Leaf Storm, I am not sure which...[[User:Chomi|Chomi]] 09:22, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
:It's Leaf Storm, to clarify. ▫▫'''[[User:Tina|ティナ]]'''[[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|★]] 14:38, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
:But we don't know what level it learns it at, so there's not really anywhere we can put it in the article.--[[User:Pokelova|''Poké'']][[User talk:Pokelova|lova!]] 15:03, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

== Physiology to be added by admins ==

I wrote up a physical description of Tsutarja for the Physiology section, since as of now it's pretty sparce. I know there's certain info that can't be added as of now, but I don't see why we can't have basic appearance descriptions. Besides, Pokabu has a much more extensive Physiology section. It's up for use if someone wants to add it.

"Tsutarja is a reptilian Grass-type Pokémon. Most of its body is green in coloration, while it has a cream-colored underside. A yellow stripe runs down the length of its back and tail, and it also has yellow markings around its large eyes. Yellow, curved structures protrude from its shoulders and bend backwards. These structures resemble leaves or small wings and give Tsutarja the appearance of wearing a collar. In spite of being snake-like in appearance, it has fully-developed limbs. Its slender arms are the same green color as the rest of its body and have three fingers, while its tiny feet match its underside in coloration and have no digits whatsoever. It has large, palmate leaf with three prongs on the end of its tail.

[[User:Togeknight|~Destruction on Wings~]] 02:21, 25 June 2010 (UTC)Togeknight

== First Evolution? ==

In the recent Black/White Anime series leak on [http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Anime_season_title_revealed Bulbanews], an image was released that includes what looks to be first evolutions for, at the very least, Tsutarja and Mijumaru. I think Pokabu's first evolution is there as well next to the new female character. Either way, is there any way to crop down those images and place them in the articles, or is this a case of "wait for clearer images?" --[[User:Phantomjunkie|Phantomjunkie]] 17:27, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

that thing looks nothing like pokabu...even more so than the whole remoraid octillery thing ([[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 17:30, 1 July 2010 (UTC))
:This is both a case of clearer images. Anything like that would be speculation. It may look the same, but may not be related. We'd need further confirmation. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 17:31, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

Tsutarja's evolution's name is Kenayake (ケナャーケ) [[User:Vkickass|Vkickass]] 21:05, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

:Even the biggest scans I can find of them are too small for them to be sharpened and still be readable, but the katakana would be ケナヤーケ, not ケナャーケ, which is Kenayaake, but if it follows Tsutarja, it's probably gonna be Kenayarke. --[[User:Goldenpelt|Goldenpelt]] 23:38, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
::I'm pretty sure it says Tsutakake (ツタケーク), but even if that what it says, we have absolutely no idea if that's the final name for it. (I say this because, on the character sheet in question, Tsutarja is called "Ivy" and Mijumaru is called something like "Rakkomaru." Uhh...?) [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 00:04, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
:::I suggest we leave the matter alone until something official pops up. The character sheet's names are small, and up to interpretation. And even if we manage to find which translation is correct, the name could change at any time. And to that point, the design itself could change since it appeared on beta artwork.--[[User:Element03|Element03]] 00:56, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
::::Yes, but this was beta artwork for the ''animé'', not the games. I'm sure the finalized versions of the Pokémon were set long before that beta artwork was released.--[[User:Phantomjunkie|Phantom]][[User talk:Phantomjunkie|junkie]] 01:19, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Now that there are actually pages for the (first) evolutions of the starters, shouldn't that be mentioned on the basic Pokémon pages? At the very least, that would be consistent, since it is stated that, for example, Janoby '''does''' evolve from Tsutarja. If we are that sure, it should be included here too. [[User:Turkadactyl|Turkadactyl]] 21:10, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
:Those pages are currently in the userspace. They aren't totally confirmed. [[User:Turtwig A|Turtwig's]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A-B-Cs]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 21:16, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
::But considering that they are included in {{redlink|Category:New Pokémon}}, as opposed to their own article (that says they are speculative) like the possible Stage 2s, wouldn't that assume that Bulbapedia is recognizing them as official? I guess I feel like it's still a consistency issue. At the very least if they're going to be included as "New Pokémon then it should be said on the basic page that it's speculated that they evolve into the higher forms. [[User:Turkadactyl|Turkadactyl]] 23:45, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
:::I forgot to mention that they are now confirmed, didn't I? [[User:Turtwig A|Turtwig's]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A-B-Cs]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 23:59, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

== Smugleaf ==

Since we mentioned the "so i herd u liek mudkipz" internet meme in the trivia section on Mudkip's page, should we mention the "Smugleaf" internet meme in the trivia page for this article? - [[User:Gold Dialga|Gold Dialga]]
:Because "so i herd u like mudkipz" was added to Mudkips trivia it would make sens to put it in there. But do the admins realy want information on something as unofficial as memes? I think it would be best to wait for a response from a member of the Bulbagarden staff. [[User:EpicShadow|EpicShadow]] 2:36, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
::How far has this new meme spread? "so i herd u liek mudkipz" was a well established meme by the time we added it. Does this even come close? --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 19:47, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
:::I beleve it was created by a youtuber calld IAMTHEOBNXIOUSDOUCHE. It has three vidios making it a small series, all three vidios currantly have together have 8188 veiws. The first vidio was posted two months ago. The only article I've seen about it anywher els (there may be more outside of this) is KOTAKU who apparently claimed it as there own creation. In short it is not very well known but it is growing.[[User:EpicShadow|EpicShadow]] 3:21, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
::::It's spread to a forum populated almost entirely by Sonic fans, and the users of that forum will probably be referring to it as Smugleaf until the English name is revealed. I think that's pretty far for a Pokémon-related internet meme. - [[User:Gold Dialga|Gold Dialga]]
:::::If thats true would it be right to say that the meme had earnd it the nickname Smugleaf, because that may be a piece of trivia to mention in the future. (assuming that the official name does not actualy become Smugleaf wich it most likely will not) [[User:EpicShadow|EpicShadow]] 3:59, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
::::::Basically, most people know Tsutarja as Smugleaf. Its far easier to say/type, and has become widespread. It started literally the first day the starters were announced. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 23:15, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
:::::::But that still makes it a fan-made nickname, should we mention it in the trivia section or leave it alone?[[User:EpicShadow|EpicShadow]] 7:52, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
::::::::I say we mention it in trivia - [[User:Gold Dialga|Gold Dialga]]
:::::::::So hey, who remembers the fan nicknames that were given to the fourth-gen starters before their English names were revealed?
:::::::::...Yeah, that's right, neither do I. And four years from now, I'll bet no one will remember "Smugleaf" either. So, I say not notable. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 02:43, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/smugleaf --[[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 02:56, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Maybe we should wait until this nickname becomes a little more widespread. The point at which it would be considered widespread enough to add to the page could be decided by the Bulbapedia staff. [[User:Steph|Steph]] 03:06, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
::::::::: The nickname isn't the real dispute its the meme based on a youtube vidio that we thougt should be put in. [[User:EpicShadow|EpicShadow]] 10:11, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
:Can we please just drop it until, as {{u|Steph}} says, things are handled a bit better in the sense we wait? [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 03:13, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
::::::::::Everywhere I looked when the Gen4 starters were released, they were referred to by their Japanese name. Tsutarja, however, seems to carry the name Smugleaf with it everywhere it goes. It's a very widespread nickname from what I can tell. I've yet to meet any Pokémon fan who doesn't refere to it by this nickname so I see no reason for it to be exluded from the trivia section. Less significant things have made it into articals before and stuck. However, this so-called youtube meme... I've never heard of it.[[User:Me, Hurray!|Me, Hurray!]] 02:08, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
::If it's name does turn out to be Smugleaf, it'll go down. Just wait. [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 02:53, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
:::I think it could be added after we get an English name. Also, I think it should be noted that the name was mentioned in my Official Nintendo Magazine Australia and New Zealand as a popular fan name. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 07:17, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
::::Pics or it didn't happen. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 07:22, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
:::::[http://i523.photobucket.com/albums/w355/SnorlaxMonster/IMG.jpg] It's too big for the archives, so I uploaded it to Photobucket. Pics prove it. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 12:55, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
::::::No idea that magazine even existed. I really only wanted the pics for the proof of the magazine :D Can you write an article on it? Also... [[a:File:NZAU Magazine Scan.jpg|I think I might just be awesome. Or something]] :D —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 07:53, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

===English name===
I bet it's "Snivy" or something, like all other Pokémon have similar English and Japanese name meanings. And you all are getting worked up over nothing. When stuff becomes notable, they will acknowledge it. After all, remember that hype in May of 2009? They picked up on it. They knew we wanted it. And then they announced it. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:11, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
:<strike>inb4 he starts wanting royalties for this too</strike> —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 10:44, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

== About its National number ==

Yes. We know. {{p|Victini}} is #000 in the Isshu dex. This means nothing right now about its National number. Think of it this way: they put Victini at #000 so that you'd not know right off the bat getting it how many other Pokémon there are to find, especially given that it's gonna be an early event, like Manaphy. If you got Mew just after you got your starter in RBY, you'd know there's 151 Pokémon in Kanto. Same with Celebi in GSC, Deoxys in RSE, and so on. This is a failsafe to make Pokémon feel less like "let's see how many they added" and more like "oh, there's so many of these things, I wonder what they all are...". Sure, futile anyway, given that we'll likely have access to the games and have figured out everything by the day after it comes out... but still. An admirable solution to that huge-empty-Pokédex problem we've had since Gen I.

Tsutarja, until further notice, is staying at #494. We cannot assume anything different than it directly following Arceus, just as Chikorita followed Mew, Treecko followed Celebi, and Turtwig followed Deoxys. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:55, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
:I completely agree.--[[User:Pokelova|''Poké'']][[User talk:Pokelova|lova!]] 01:07, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

== Poor Origin Species Choice ==

The Origin Section on Tsutarja's page lables it as "[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opheodrys_aestivus Opheodrys aestivus], more commonly known as the rough green snake or green grass snake". I honsetly STRONGLY disagree with this noition. Other than the somewhat-similar color scheme, there's not TOO much in common- the face is WAY too different. I think that Tsutarja is MUCH more likely based on a somewhat-popular species [http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/03/Oxybelis_fulgidus_4.jpg known] [http://www.naturfoto-cz.de/photos/sevcik/green-vine-snake--oxybelis-fulgidus.jpg as the] [http://travel.mongabay.com/animals/080923/600/brnxz_711.jpg Vine] [http://www.jmg-galleries.com/blog_images/best_photos_2009/9_TRAVEL_COSTARICA_JMG9804_c.jpeg Snake]. The Vine Snake is a snake species found all throughout the Americas. Specifically notice the very similar ''pointed nose'', that the Rough Green Snake notably lacks. Also note the similar nostril and the very sharp line that passes straight through it's eye. ...Thoughts? [[User:M190049|'''''~m190049''''']][[User talk:M190049|'''''~talk''''']] 04:25, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
:I think you may be right.--[[User:Pokelova|''Poké'']][[User talk:Pokelova|lova!]] 04:29, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

== evolutionary lvls ==

Shouldn't we write evolves at lvl 16 and will evolve a second time at 36. or somthing along thoes lines. Becasue we all know thoes are the evolutionary levles for all starters.--[[User:Megamaxxor|'''''Mega''''']][[User talk:Megamaxxor|'''maxxor''']]-- 00:07, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
:Confirmation. We need it before we add anything to the articles.--[[User:Phantomjunkie|Phantom]][[User talk:Phantomjunkie|Junkie]] 00:09, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
::Monferno: evolves from Chimchar at 14. Grotle: evolves from Turtwig at 18 and into Torterra at 32. So yeah, it isn't confirmed without confirmation. [[User:Turtwig A|Turtwig's]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A-B-Cs]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 00:16, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

NO! Turtwig evolvs at 16 i already checked [[User:Megamaxxor|'''''Mega''''']][[User talk:Megamaxxor|'''maxxor''']]-- 00:18, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
:Turtwig is my favorite Pokémon, I should know. Because that isn't proof, see {{p|Turtwig|this article}}. It says Turtwig evolves at 18. I also know because I have a level 17 Turtwig and it never once said it was going to evolve. [[User:Turtwig A|Turtwig's]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A-B-Cs]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 00:26, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
::{{u|Turtwig A|TA}}'s right. We won't know for sure until its officially revealed. There's nothing wrong with waiting. [[User:Takharii|'''たか''']][[User talk:Takharii|'''はり''']][[Special:Contributions/Takharii|'''い''']] 00:29, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

:::Trust me, they could break entirely with tradition here. For all we know, all three of this new [[country]]'s starters could evolve for the first time at level 30 and the second time at level 55. Yes, if the previous countries' patterns actually counted for anything, this would suggest that all three starters would evolve first at level 16 and the second time around level 36, but there's no guarantee that the country of Isshu has to adhere to any odd-numbered-generation patterns that the countries of Kanto and Hoenn might have otherwise implied...--[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 00:53, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
::::Anyway, there is no pattern. Currently the starters evolve from level 14-18, then 30-36. There isn't very much consistency, especially not enough for us to assume anything. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 08:10, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

== Head shaped like Cyndaquil's ==

I noticed Tsutarja's head is shaped alot like Cyndaquil's head. Would this be worth mentioning in the physiology section? After all, it is also mentioned that Piplup looks a little like Torchic and Pachirisu resembling Pikachu. Also worth mentioning its resemblance to Treecko and all grass starters so far being reptilian? --[[User:Brats817|Brats817]] 10:10, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
:Uh... no. First of all, I don't see the resemblance. Secondly, in the two cases you cited, the resemblance is far more than superficial. Piplup and Torchic are both small bird Pokémon with ovoid heads, tiny beaks, etc. When you consider that they're the only bird-based starter Pokémon, that can make for worthwhile trivia. Pachirisu and Pikachu are obviously similar—both are electric-type, small rodent Pokémon which store electricity in their cheeks... but Tsutarja is snake-or-lizard-like, while Cyndaquil is like a shrew; their eyes are noticably different... You need a little more to go on than "their heads are vaguely similar in shape (if you squint)." {{unsigned|AndyPKMN}}

Well the only reason I mentioned it is only because their heads were similar, and that was the only similarity they have and I thought it would be worth mentioning that one similarity. They don't have to be based on the same animal in order to have a similarity somewhere. (Well of course except for color, that isn't enough of a similarity) Tsutarja's head IS similar shaped to Cyndaquil's head, but only the facial features are different, apart from the nose and mouth being in a similar location on their face. If Piplup's head was differently shaped and had different facial features, it probably wouldn't have been compared to Torchic, and if Pachirisu had no cheek pouches, it probably wouldn't be compared with Pikachu. The only other similarity is that they are birds and rodents, but different species. It's like comparing Taillow to Spearow. But if Cyndaquil and Tsutarja's head shape is not enough to mention as it's their one and only similarity, would it still be enough to mention that all grass type starters so far are reptilian? (Probably best to put it in the starter Pokémon section) Oh and you forgot to sign your comment. --[[User:Brats817|Brats817]] 21:51, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
:I don't see any resemblance at all. I think those other resemblance points should be removed too, save for Lapras/Shellos, as many people did believe they were related by evolution before Gastrodon was revealed. [[User:Turtwig A|Turtwig's]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A-B-Cs]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 22:04, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

== Learnset ==

We have a beggining of Learnset by levelling-up about Tsutarja (as well as [[Pokabu]], [[Mijumaru]], [[Zorua]], [[Zoroark]], [[Reshiram]], [[Zekrom]], [[Moguryu]] and all the other ones) in German at [http://www.pokewiki.de http://www.pokewiki.de] {{unsigned|Wolfy Harfleur 76700}}

== Chlorophyll ==

Is it worth noting that even though it's Pokédex entry states that it's movements sharpen in sunlight, it cannot have the ability [[Chlorophyll_(ability)|Chlorophyll]]? {{unsigned|Pawsrent}}
:I don't know. With that new Dream World feature, which gives Pokémon new abilities, Tsutarja could be able to get Chlorophyll as a second ability. [[User:Turtwig A|Turtwig's]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A-B-Cs]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 20:50, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

== Updated origin ==

Tsutarja is most likely based on ''{{wp|Oxybelis fulgidus}}'', a slender snake with a pointed head that inhabits {{wp|Central America}} and {{wp|South America}}. The Pokémon's combination of snake- and lizard-like features is also similar to that of the {{wp|skink}}, more specifically the {{wp|Neoseps}}. Neoseps heavilly resemble snakes but have small, stubby legs. Its head and general body shape, as well as its protrusions on its shoulders, are most likely based on the {{wp|Strelitzia|birds of paradise flowers}} and possibly the {{wp|Heliconia|false birds of paradise}}.

[[User:050294|050294]] 00:06, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

==National Pokedex # ==

Won't Victini come before it on the national pokedex making it #455?[[User:Captian Obvious|Captian Obvious]] 18:05, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
:No, it's {{p|Carnivine}}.--[[User:Dennou Zenshi|でんのう]] ☢ [[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|'''Z'''えんし]] 18:06, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
::He means 495, and actually, all we know is that Victini is before Tsutarja in the Isshu Dex, we don't know if they may give Victini a number with the legends since Victini is a legend itself. D: --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 18:08, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
:::The National Dex order doesn't always follow the Region Dex order. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 18:44, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
::::I'm personally of the theory that Victini may even be #000 (inter)nationally. Of course, you could've just scrolled up, since I addressed this when we were told Victini is #000. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:11, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

== A little more on origin ==

I know it's a bit early to say this, but after seeing the leaked evolutions, I've noticed that the middle evolution seems to have much smaller, deformed limbs, as if it was transitioning to losing its limbs for the final evolution which is more snake-like. Thinking a bit, according to the fossil record, some snakes are descendants of lizards. Meaning it was likely that snakes used to have limbs and eventually lost them as the populations evolved. Tsutarja's evolutions seems to reference that.

Would this be notable to mention in the evolutions' articles? [[User:Rai Marshall|Rai Marshall]] 01:19, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

Oh look, someone agrees with me. I, too, believe that that Tsutarja is based of off actual evolution, considering that Janoby has smaller limbs than Tsutarja, and the final evo shall have even smaller limbs, if any at all. Most starter evos appear to based on them growing up than real evolution. Tsutarja's doesn't. [[User:Phoen|Black, White, and.... Purple?!? (Phoen!)]] 18:51, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

:Losing limbs can happen during a creatures life-cycle. Some species of skinks do lose their arms and legs once they reach adulthood and even more familiar; catterpiler(12 limbs) >> Buterfly(6 limbs). Just thaught I should point that out. [[User:EpicShadow|EpicShadow]] 19:09, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

== Tsutarja and the evolution were made from the image of the Europe and America. ==

It is described to the developer interview of the magazine named pokemon pia. [[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 17:58, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

It supplements. It is described by the developer, it is "和洋中(wayouchuu)".

Mijumaru 和(Japan).　Tsutarja 洋(Europe and America).　Pokabu 中(China).

"洋" has a hard time translating because it is vague. It is explained, "Foreign country" and "Europe and America" in wiktionary. [[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 19:25, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

:On this topic, I noticed something just now. Looking at [http://pokebeach.com/news/0910/bwpia_draw06.jpg this image] from Pokébeach, it seems Tsutarja has got a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fleur-de-lis Fleur-de-lis] design on the back of his neck/collar. Just reading the Wiki article reminds me of Tsutarja. Anyone else agree? [[User:Jo The Marten|Jo The Marten]] 04:07, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
::I think you may be on to somthing, it was stated that Tsutarja's persanality was based on French royalty so that is most lkely what it is supposed to be. I would put that under apperance, somthing like (The Yellow markings on Tsutarja's back are reminiscent of the Fleur-de-lis). {{unsigned|EpicShadow}}
::洋 means "western" (as used from a Japanese/Asian perspective), at least in this case it definitely does. (和食 means "Japanese food", 洋食 means "Western food") [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 13:52, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

== Anime ==

Does this deserve to be added to the anime section of the page? I think it would definetly be an improvement from having nothing. Maybe also adding that Shooti owns one that battles Ash's Pikachu in the first episode. [[User:Shokuwarrior|Shokuwarrior]] 13:01, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
:Did you have to add a picture that looks exactly like the one I use on my profile? (cept png) [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 13:04, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
:: well this one is better quality which, I thought, is always better. [[User:Shokuwarrior|Shokuwarrior]] 13:09, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

== Evolution... ==

Uh.....///... I'm probably late with this, (epicly :O) but... his evo was announced, Janobii, and it hasn't been added to his evolutionary line, nor has a page been created.... I think. >.> --[[User:Weruioh Star|Weruioh Star]] 21:14, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
:They aren't totally confirmed. By the way, its called Janoby here. The page can be found [[User:SnorlaxMonster/Janoby (Pokémon)|here]][[User:Turtwig A|Turtwig's]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A-B-Cs]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 21:16, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
::http://shellspider.blog101.fc2.com/blog-entry-253.html Actually it has been proven [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 21:21, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
IT HASH BEN PROVEN!!! ...See? :D *shot* --[[User:Weruioh Star|Weruioh]] ★ [[User talk:Weruioh Star|Star]] 21:24, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
:I really didn't see that. Doesn't really matter though. I don't have authority here. [[User:Turtwig A|Turtwig's]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A-B-Cs]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 21:26, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
::One's sitting in the userspace. We'll put it in as soon as we're significantly convinced. Remember Aobasu? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:17, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

:::The evolutions were even shown on Oha Suta today when they showcased the CoroCoro issue. Why is Bulbapedia so reluctant on posting them after THIS much confirmation? Surely you don't despise the starter evos to this extent? [[User:Marlowe|Marlowe]] 23:29, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
:::: It was? if that doesnt confirm it I don't know what will...[[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 23:30, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::It isn't because we hate it. It's because Bulbapedia has seen a previous generation go by, as well as the CoroCoro fake, which made Giruja {{tt|fake|sadly}}. I do believe this is enough confirmation now.[[User:Turtwig A|Turtwig's]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A-B-Cs]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 23:36, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
::::::I think what we’re all forgetting is that Janoby, and Futachimaru, both appeared in the concept art for the anime. I would say that is more than enough proof for those two. Chaobu however… well we’ll have to wait for that one, but it is still very likely to be real. [[User:EpicShadow|EpicShadow]] 23:47, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::::It's...already...been confirmed to be real [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 23:57, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Since they're confirmed beyond all doubts at this point, I'd say we go ahead and give them pages. [[User:Marlowe|Marlowe]] 00:15, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
:I'm saying we mainspace them now. They're confirmed. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 08:33, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

http://www.pokemon.jp/portal/member/bw/pokemon/img/p30.jpg
http://www.pokemon.jp/portal/member/bw/pokemon/img/p31.jpg
http://www.pokemon.jp/portal/member/bw/pokemon/img/p32.jpg

Taken from the official site itself. They're as real as real can be. [[User:Marlowe|Marlowe]] 11:39, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

== Trivia ==

Should be noted that Tsutarja is the first grass starter that is not in the first Pokémon in the regional Pokédex? [[User:Masatoshi|'''Masatoshi: Gen. II>All.''']] [[User talk:Masatoshi|'''''Discuss.''''']] 19:57, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
:Done. --'''[[User:EpicShadow|Epic]][[User talk:EpicShadow|Shadow]]''' 20:36, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

== Starters.. ==

Hi (:. Weren't the Isshu startes a gift from the player's mum or something? I was almost totally sure.. I'd add it but I don't want to mess up with info that I don't know for sure.. Please answer :D. Thank you![[User:YukitoOoO|YukitoOoO]] 05:00, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
:The letter on the box is signed by Araragi. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 06:35, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
::I see, cool. Thanks :D. [[User:YukitoOoO|YukitoOoO]] 06:48, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

== On the origin (again) ==

The article states that "Tsutarja may be based on Oxybelis fulgidus, a slender snake with a pointed head that inhabits Central America and South America." It may be so, but in my opinion it more closely resembles an Asian snake {{wp|Ahaetulla nasuta}} especially at the head. Both have same "sharp", pointed nose and the eyes are also quite similar, at least in my opinion. --[[User:Lorem of ipsums|Lorem of ipsums]] 16:05, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

== Possible Origin? ==

I was thinking that Tsutarja and its evolutionary line may be based off of the serpent from the Garden of Eden story. Seeing as God cursed the serpent to crawl on its belly and lose its legs, I figure that Tsutarja's progression throughout its evolution might reflect upon this. It's just an opinion, but I think it might be interesting to add. [[User:Omnis|Omnis]] 21:39, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
: It has a confirmed origin already..and I don't think that they would base it on that..[[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 21:58, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
::Just because it has one confirmed origin doesn't mean that it has to ONLY be based on one. This actually seems like a plausible origin. - [[User:050294|050294]] 22:05, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
:::No it doesn't... Where in any of the information we have on this or its evolutions does it imply that it's satanic or has been '''cursed''' to lose limbs? Real snakes lost their limbs through evolution. Snivy loses its through evolution. This is a no-brainer. -_-; And the name of the hidden ability is not evidence for being satanic, seriously. The other Pokémon who get it are {{p|Shuckle}} and {{p|Spinda}}. I'm removing this because I can't believe it's been up this long... [[User:Dragoness|Dragoness]] 22:58, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

== Resemblance to this snake! ==
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahaetulla_nasuta Look here at this long nosed whip snake. Doesn't Tsutarja's family have a similar head shape? Would this be worth mentioning in their origin sections? Be sure to look at all pictures of that snake in the section. Has a thin head and long skinny snout. --[[User:Brats817|Brats817]] 04:35, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

== Protection ==
I know that the English names will be revealed today, but for how long will it be protected? ♢ [[User:DeadUniverse|DeadUniverse]] [[User talk:DeadUniverse|Hello!]] ♢ 16:50, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
:Speaking of which, the name is Snivy, as said [http://www.pokemonblackwhite.com/en-us/the-starter-pokemon/ on the official site]. It's [[User:Turtwig A|Turtwig A]]! [[User talk:Turtwig A|My talk]] or [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|wiki edits]] 23:01, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

== Small addition to name origin ==

I know it says that Snivy is a mix between "snake" and "ivy", but couldn't the word "snide" be part of it as well? [[User:Omnis|Omnis]] 23:57, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
:It could also come from "snob" given Snivy's calm, and smug (XD), nature. --[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 03:54, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
::Yes, its name made me think of snide also. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 04:09, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

==Very Hasty Editor==

They changed the link to the Tsutarja picture to say Snivy, breaking the link. they also changed the Japanese name in the info box to also say snivy. [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] ([[User_talk:TorchicBlaziken|talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/TorchicBlaziken|edits]]) 00:20, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
: Also, I'm sure that the romanization of "tsutaaja" is not Snivy. That's a pretty big stretch, even for Game Freak. [[User:Ztobor|Ztobor]] 01:03, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
:: Wait, crap, TorchicBlaziken already said that. T_T [[User:Ztobor|Ztobor]] 01:04, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
::snivy is the rominization for tsujujo. wow, i'm fergatin hs nme lrde.--[[User:Ethan brendan lucas|Ethan brendan lucas]] 01:24, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
::: They fixed it, but to "Tsu'''j'''arja." [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] ([[User_talk:TorchicBlaziken|talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/TorchicBlaziken|edits]]) 01:32, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
:::: Finally fixed. [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] ([[User_talk:TorchicBlaziken|talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/TorchicBlaziken|edits]]) 02:02, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

== Smugleaf In The Trivia Section? ==

Why is the internet memme name Smugleaf in Snivy's Trivia?

It's not official trivia since it's in no way part of the official Pokemon franchise, it was just made by fans.

Why does it qualify though? {{unsigned|Bellsprout}}
: Check here http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Talk:Snivy_(Pok%C3%A9mon)#Smugleaf [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 22:04, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

==Plurals==

I'm sorry but why the heck are all the gen V Pokemon's physiology descriptions not pluralized? I've changed a few already but the rest of them should be done too, including Snivy. The only Pokemon that should not have pluralized descriptions are a hand full of legendaries. Refer to Skuntank's discussion page if you are not aware. --'''[[User:InuMimi|いぬ]][[User talk:InuMimi|みみ]]''' 22:00, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

==It's chinese name is 叶藤蛇,not 藤藤蛇.==

Guys,we need to change it's chinese name. Why? Because I googled 藤藤蛇. But,there aren't many result of Tsutarja. So I googled 叶藤蛇,there are even more result than 藤藤蛇. Also,I'm not lying. Goggle it yourself. [[User:Flamemario12|flamemario12]]
:We do not use the number of Google results as a source for the name. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 13:27, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
::Yes. We use [http://www.my-cartoon.com.tw/pokemon/bw/character.htm official sources]. Don't take those Google results too seriously. Chinese fans LOVE using fan-assumed names. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 13:32, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
:::Chinese fans have already been using the name 叶藤蛇 since Snivy's design was revealed. The official name 藤藤蛇 was just released last month. Of course 叶藤蛇 would have more results than 藤藤蛇. Same thing with [[Oshawott]], it's 水水獺 (not 小球獺). For [[Tepig]], the official name (暖暖豬) is the same as its fan name anyway. The reason those fan names are still being used is because the fans are either unsatisfied with the official names or they think those names are better than the official ones. '''神智の[[User:神奇超龍|超龍]]'''「[[User talk:神奇超龍|對話]]」 16:41, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

==Trivia==

D oyou think that tge little orgi nthing in the trivia section should go in the orgin or intro? If you don't get what im saying check out the first trivia. http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Snivy_(Pok%C3%A9mon)#Trivia [[User:DrBrock|DrBrock]] 18:01, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

:If by this you mean that part about it being revealed through silhouette, all information like that tends to go in that spot, its consistent with other articles. '''[[User:Toon Ganondorf|Toon Ganondorf ]] [[User Talk:Toon Ganondorf|(t]] [[Special:Contributions/Toon Ganondorf|c)]]''' 22:01, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

== Large sprites ==

Snivy, Tepig, and Oshawott have special large sprites at the beginning of the game, used only when selecting the new starter Pokémon. This is a feature unprecedented in previous games (which all used the battle sprites in selection). I think these large sprites have encyclopaedic value here, and I'd be glad to rip and upload them, but where to, if others are in agreement? 
Note: Let me emphasize that this question applies to all three starters and that I am posting here strictly because Snivy comes before the other two in National Pokédex order. 
Alternatively, here's a minor suggestion of my own. Could one possibly say in the trivia pages of each of these three Pokémon that they are the only starter Pokémon to have special large sprites for their selection at the beginning of the game, and provide the images next to the sections for illustration? --Cheers, [[User:Haxorus|'''Hax''']][[User talk:Haxorus|'''or''']][[Special:MyContributions|'''us''']] 10:21, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

== Base Exp. ==

It's changed in Black 2 and White 2, along with Tepig's and Oshawott's. Could somebody with hacking abilities find out what it's changed to? - [[User:Blazios|Blazios]] [[User Talk:Blazios|talk]] 14:08, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

== Conniving ==

Could Snivy also involve conniving? I know saying conniving usually involves this sentence "That snide, conniving little -----!" so snide and conniving do seem to be two sides of the same coin.

I know the snide part of Snivy is a obvious one, so don't let the spelling of conniving cloud judgement in its legitimacy of possibly being involved in snivy's name. I know people tend to see words that don't start with the same letter and immediately condemn them without further thought or reasoning. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 22:02, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
:It's only got two letters / one syllable in common, and I think just plain ''ivy'' is a more reasonable hypothesis than ''conniving + ivy''. That's not to say it's impossible, but I'd definitely err on the side of not including it on the page. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 22:14, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

== Gen VI egg moves ==

So, for anyone who wants to test what Snivy can or can't learn by breeding in gen VI, I figured we can use a section here. Not sure if there's any other way to check, since 3DS games can't really be hacked yet, so some information's better than no information, right? For anyone else interested in testing, please add any move you test to the appropriate list (and sign it). Tilde Tilde Tilde Tilde [[User:Omega Metroid|Omega Metroid]] ([[User talk:Omega Metroid|talk]]) 20:14, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

Moves that cannot be learned by breeding:
* [[Aqua Tail]] (tested by [[User:Omega Metroid|Omega Metroid]] ([[User talk:Omega Metroid|talk]]) 20:14, 17 January 2014 (UTC))
* [[Disable]] (tested by [[User:Omega Metroid|Omega Metroid]] ([[User talk:Omega Metroid|talk]]) 20:14, 17 January 2014 (UTC))
* [[Fury Swipes]] (tested by [[User:Omega Metroid|Omega Metroid]] ([[User talk:Omega Metroid|talk]]) 20:14, 17 January 2014 (UTC))
* [[Zen Headbutt]] (tested by [[User:Omega Metroid|Omega Metroid]] ([[User talk:Omega Metroid|talk]]) 20:14, 17 January 2014 (UTC))

Moves that can be learned by breeding:

Shalour City

2013-11-11T22:34:52Z

Omega Metroid: /* Pokémon */

{{Town infobox
|name=Shalour City
|jpname=シャラシティ
|jptrans=Shara City
|image=XY Prerelease Tower of Mastery.png
|size=250
|region=Kalos
|generation=6
|slogan=A city of awakening.
|mapdesc=The seaside home of the Tower of Mastery, where the legend of mysterious stones lives on.
|east=Route 12
|regioneast=Kalos
|south=Reflection Cave
|gym=Shalour Gym
|gymno=3
|leader=Korrina
|leadersprite=VSKorrina.png{{!}}150px
|badge=Rumble
|gymtype=Fighting
|colordark=2E8B57
|colormed=B4B400
|colorlight=F8DE7E}}

'''Shalour City''' (Japanese: '''シャラシティ''' ''Shara City'') is a city located in the [[Kalos]] [[region]]. It is the hometown of the [[Gym Leader]] [[Korrina]]. This city is a seaside location, known for its amazing views.

==Places of interest==
===Shalour Gym===
{{main|Shalour Gym}}
The Shalour Gym is the official [[Gym]] of Shalour City, whose Gym Leader is [[Korrina]].

===Tower of Mastery===
{{main|Tower of Mastery}}
The Tower of Mastery is a location in Shalour City that is related to [[Mega Evolution]].

==Items==
{{Itlisth|road}}
{{Itemlist|Eviolite|From a man inside the house East of the Pokémon Center after obtaining a certain number of Pokémon in the Coastal Dex|X=yes|y=yes}}
{{Itemlist|Soothe Bell|From elderly woman inside building West of the Pokémon Center for showing her a Pokémon with high happiness.|X=yes|y=yes}}
{{Itemlist|Stardust|
* From a woman inside a building West of the Pokémon Center after bringing her a Flying or Psychic-type Pokémon (×3)
* on the rock in the large sandy area on the west side ''(hidden)''|X=yes|y=yes|display={{DL|Valuable item|Stardust}} ×4}}
{{Itemlist|Sun Stone|From a Hiker after giving him the Intriguing Stone|X=yes|y=yes}}
{{Itemlist|None||X=yes|y=yes|display={{DL|List of Ribbons in the games|Footprint Ribbon}}}}
{{Itemlist|None|From Tierno|X=yes|y=yes|display={{key|VI|Intriguing Stone}}}}
{{Itemlist|Max Ether||X=yes|y=yes|display={{DL|Ether|Max Ether}}}}
{{Itemlist|HM Water|From Calem/Serena by the Route 12 gate|X=yes|y=yes|display={{HM|03|Surf}}}}
{{Itemlist|Max Repel|in front of the [[Tower of Mastery]] ''(hidden)''|X=yes|y=yes|display={{DL|Repel|Max Repel}}}}
{{Itemlist|X Sp. Atk|In front of the Gym behind the bench ''(hidden)''|X=yes|y=yes|display={{DL|Battle item|X Sp. Atk}}}}
{{Itemlist|Leppa Berry|Trade with [[Sitrus Berry]]|X=yes|y=yes}}
{{Itlistfoot|road}}

==Pokémon==
{{catch/header|road|2}}
{{catch/div|water|Surfing}}
{{catch/entry6|072|Tentacool|yes|yes|Surf||all=Common|type1=water|type2=poison}}
{{catch/entry6|458|Mantyke|yes|yes|Surf|27|all=Rare|type1=water|type2=flying}}
{{catch/div|water|Fishing}}
{{catch/entry6|370|Luvdisc|yes|yes|Fish Old||all=Common|type1=water}}
{{catch/entry6|170|Chinchou|yes|yes|Fish Good|25|all=Average|type1=water|type2=electric}}
{{catch/entry6|223|Remoraid|yes|yes|Fish Good|25|all=Frequent|type1=water}}
{{catch/entry6|171|Lanturn|yes|yes|Fish Super|35|all=Very Rare|type1=water|type2=electric}}
{{catch/entry6|224|Octillery|yes|yes|Fish Super|35|all=Average|type1=water}}
{{catch/entry6|594|Alomomola|yes|yes|Fish Super|35|all=Common|type1=water}}
{{catch/footer|road}}

==Trivia==
* Shalour's Japanese motto is {{tt|目覚めの　街|A city of awakening}}.
* A Punk in Shalour City's Pokémon Center references [[HarmoKnight]].

==Name origin==
{| class="roundy" style="background: #F8DE7E; border: 3px solid #2E8B57"
|-
! style="{{roundytl}}" | Language
! Name
! style="{{roundytr}}" | Origin
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Japanese
| シャラシティ ''Shara City''
| From 娑羅 ''shara'', {{wp|Shorea robusta|shala tree}}
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| English
| Shalour City
| From ''shala''
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| French
| Yantreizh
| From ''{{wp|yantra}}'' and possibly ''Breizh'' (Breton for {{wp|Brittany}})
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| German
| Yantara City
| From ''yantra''
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Italian
| Yantaropoli
| From ''yantra''
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Spanish
| Ciudad Yantra
| From ''yantra''
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Korean
| 사라시티 ''Sara City''
| From 사라 (娑羅) ''sara'', shala tree
|}

{{-}}
{{stub|Location}}
{{Kalos}} 
{{Project Cities and Towns notice}}

[[Category:Kalos locations]]
[[Category:X and Y locations]]
[[Category:Cities]]

[[de:Yantara City]]
[[fr:Tour Maîtrise]]
[[it:Yantaropoli]]
[[zh:娑羅市]]

Kalos Route 8

2013-11-10T19:29:37Z

Omega Metroid: /* Pokémon */

{{incomplete}}
{{Route infobox
|number=8
|size=250
|generation=6
|rock smash=yes
|surf=yes
|strength=yes
|image=Kalos Route 8 XY.png
|type=land
|mapdesc=This is a road of great contrasts, from the harsh rock of the cliffs to the soft sands of the beach.
|north=Cyllage City
|east=Connecting Cave
|south=Ambrette Town
|region=Kalos
}}
'''Route 8''' (Japanese: '''８ばんどうろ''' ''Route 8'') is a route in western [[Kalos]]. It consists of two different paths. The upper cliffside path connects [[Ambrette Town]] and [[Connecting Cave]], while the lower seaside path connects Ambrette Town and [[Cyllage City]]. The route is also known as '''Muraille Coast''' (Japanese: '''ミュライユかいがん''' ''Muraille Coast'').

==Items==
{{Itlisth|land}}
{{Itemlist|Super Potion|Mountain Level; North of [[Connecting Cave]] entrance, in the rock ''(hidden)''|X=yes|y=yes|display={{dl|Potion|Super Potion}}}}
{{Itemlist|HP Up|Mountain Level; Straight out of [[Connecting Cave]] to the cliff's edge, between two ledges facing eastward.|X=yes|y=yes|display={{dl|Vitamin|HP Up}}}}
{{Itemlist|Water Stone|South of Rising Star Paulette (requires {{m|Strength}})|X=yes|y=yes|display={{dl|Evolutionary stone|Water Stone}}}}
{{Itemlist|Escape Rope|West of Black Belt Cadoc; from the edge of the cliff, take one step east and look south ''(hidden)''|X=yes|y=yes}}
{{Itemlist|Leaf Stone|Across the mud pit via jumping stones|X=yes|y=yes|display={{dl|Evolutionary stone|Leaf Stone}}}}
{{Itemlist|Mago Berry|From the berry tree north of the aquarium|X=yes|y=yes}}
{{Itemlist|None|From the Swimmer ♀ north of the aquarium|X=yes|y=yes|display={{key|VI|Dowsing Machine}}}}
{{Itemlist|Pearl|Southwest of Swimmer ♀ that gives the player the Dowsing Machine ''(hidden, [[Item#Recurring items|reappears occasionally]])''|X=yes|y=yes|display={{DL|Valuable item|Pearl}}}}
{{Itemlist|Stardust|Southwest of the berry tree ''(hidden, , reappears occasionally)''|X=yes|y=yes|display={{DL|Valuable item|Stardust}}}}
{{Itemlist|Ultra Ball|Directly north of the stairs leading to the coastal level, inside of the smaller boulder on the left ''(hidden)''|X=yes|y=yes|display={{ball|Ultra}}}}
{{Itemlist|Heart Scale|
* Coastal level; west of the stairs, buried in the sand ''(hidden, , reappears occasionally)''
* In a rock south of [[TM19]] ''(hidden)''|X=yes|y=yes|display={{dl|Exchangeable item|Heart Scale}} ×2}}
{{Itemlist|TM Flying|Shallow area north of where Estaban swims (requires {{m|Surf}})|X=yes|y=yes|display={{TM|19|Roost}}}}
{{Itlistfoot|land}}

==Pokémon==
{{catch/header|land|2}}
{{catch/entry6|325|Spoink|yes|yes|Grass|14|all=Average|type1=psychic}}
{{catch/entry6|335|Zangoose|yes|no|Grass|14-15|all=Rare|type1=normal}}
{{catch/entry6|336|Seviper|no|yes|Grass|14|all=Rare|type1=poison}}
{{catch/entry6|359|Absol|yes|yes|Grass|15|all=Rare|type1=dark}}
{{catch/entry6|371|Bagon|yes|yes|Grass|14|all=Very Rare|type1=dragon}}
{{catch/entry6|425|Drifloon|yes|yes|Grass|13-15|all=Average|type1=ghost|type2=flying}}
{{catch/entry6|619|Mienfoo|yes|yes|Grass|15|all=Rare|type1=Fighting}}
{{catch/entry6|686|Inkay|yes|yes|Grass|14-15|all=Rare|type1=dark|type2=psychic}}
{{catch/div|land|Yellow Flowers}}
{{catch/entry6|325|Spoink|yes|yes|Yellow Flowers|14|all=Rare|type1=psychic}}
{{catch/entry6|335|Zangoose|yes|no|Yellow Flowers|14-15|all=Rare|type1=Normal}}
{{catch/entry6|336|Seviper|no|yes|Yellow Flowers|14|all=Rare|type1=poison}}
{{catch/entry6|359|Absol|yes|yes|Yellow Flowers|15|all=Average|type1=dark}}
{{catch/entry6|371|Bagon|yes|yes|Yellow Flowers|14|all=Very Rare|type1=dragon}}
{{catch/entry6|425|Drifloon|yes|yes|Yellow Flowers|13-15|all=Rare|type1=ghost|type2=flying}}
{{catch/entry6|619|Mienfoo|yes|yes|Yellow Flowers|15|all=Average|type1=Fighting}}
{{catch/entry6|686|Inkay|yes|yes|Yellow Flowers|14|all=Rare|type1=dark|type2=psychic}}
{{catch/div|land|Horde Encounter}}
{{catch/entry6|276|Taillow|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|7|all=Rare|type1=normal|type2=flying}}
{{catch/entry6|278|Wingull|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|7|all=Common|type1=water|type2=flying}}
{{catch/entry6|335|Zangoose|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|8|all={{tt|Average|4 in X and 1 in Y}} with Seviper|type1=normal}}
{{catch/entry6|336|Seviper|yes|yes|Horde Encounter|8|all={{tt|Average|1 in X and 4 in Y}} with Zangoose|type1=poison}}
{{catch/div|sand|Rock Smash}}
{{catch/entry6|557|Dwebble|yes|yes|Rock Smash|14|all=Common|type1=Bug|Rock}}
{{catch/entry6|688|Binacle|yes|yes|Rock Smash|14|all=Average|type1=Rock|type2=Water}}
{{catch/div|ocean|Surfing}}
{{catch/entry6|072|Tentacool|yes|yes|Surf|25-26|all=Common|type1=water|type2=poison}}
{{catch/entry6|320|Wailmer|yes|yes|Surf|25|all=Average|type1=water}}
{{catch/div|ocean|Fishing}}
{{catch/entry6|370|Luvdisc|yes|yes|Fish Old|15|all=100%|type1=water}}
{{catch/entry6|090|Shellder|no|yes|Fish Good|25|all=Average|type1=water}}
{{catch/entry6|120|Staryu|yes|no|Fish Good|25|all=Average|type1=water}}
{{catch/entry6|690|Skrelp|no|yes|Fish Good|25|all=Common|type1=Poison|type2=water}}
{{catch/entry6|692|Clauncher|yes|no|Fish Good|25|all=Common|type1=water}}
{{catch/entry6|091|Cloyster|no|yes|Fish Super|35|all=Very Rare|type1=water}}
{{catch/entry6|121|Starmie|yes|no|Fish Super|35|all=Very Rare|type1=water}}
{{catch/entry6|211|Qwilfish|yes|yes|Fish Super|35|all=Common|type1=water|type2=poison}}
{{catch/entry6|691|Dragalge|no|yes|Fish Super|35|all=Average|type1=Poison|type2=dragon}}
{{catch/entry6|693|Clawitzer|yes|no|Fish Super|35|all=Average|type1=water}}
{{catch/footer|land}}

==Trainers==
{{trainerheader|land}}
{{Trainerdiv|land|Mountain level}}
{{Trainerentry|Spr XY Rising Star f.png|Rising Star|Paulette|1140|1|610|Axew|♀|19|None|36=アオイ|37=Aoi}}
{{Trainerentry|Spr XY Rising Star m.png|Rising Star|Rhys|1020|3|674|Pancham|♂|15|None|672|Skiddo|♂|16|None|118|Goldeen|♂|17|None|36=ニース|37=Nice}}
{{Trainerentry|Spr XY Sky Trainer m.png|Sky Trainer|Howe|1800|2|425|Drifloon|♂|15|None|017|Pidgeotto|♂|18|None|36=シュン|37=Shun}}
{{Trainerentry|Spr XY Black Belt.png|Black Belt|Cadoc|960|1|066|Machop|♂|20|None|36=ツヨシ|37=Tsuyoshi}}
{{Trainerdiv|land|Coastal level}}
{{Trainerentry|Spr XY Swimmer F.png|Swimmer ♀|Genevieve|336|2|278|Wingull|♀|19|None|054|Psyduck|♀|21|None|36=シモーヌ|37=Simone}}
{{Trainerentry|Spr XY Fisherman.png|Fisherman|Wharton|1064|3|072|Tentacool|♂|19|None|072|Tentacool|♂|19|None|072|Tentacool|♂|19|None|36=タクロウ|37=Takurō}}
{{Trainerentry|Spr XY Fisherman.png|Fisherman|Shad|1120|2|090|Shellder|♂|20|None|120|Staryu||20|None|36=トシアキ|37=Toshiaki}}
{{Trainerentry|Spr XY Swimmer F.png|Swimmer ♀|Marissa|352|1|284|Masquerain|♀|22|None|36=ナツキ|37=Natsuki}}
{{Trainerentry|Spr XY Swimmer M.png|Swimmer ♂|Estaban|448|2|690|Skrelp|♂|28|None|116|Horsea|♂|28|None|36=ヨウヘイ|37=Youhei}}
{{Trainerentry|Spr XY Swimmer M.png|Swimmer ♂|Ramses|480|1|072|Tentacool|♂|30|None|36=ウシオ|37=Ushio}}
{{Trainerentry|Spr XY Sky Trainer f.png|Sky Trainer|Aveza|2200|2|188|Skiploom|♀|19|None|528|Swoobat|♀|22|None|36=マイ|37=Mai}}
{{Trainerentry|Spr XY Sky Trainer m.png|Sky Trainer|Colm|2900|2|458|Mantyke|♂|28|None|189|Jumpluff|♂|29|None|36=ツバサ|37=Tsubasa}}
{{trainerfooter|land|6}}

==Trivia==
* While wild Seviper and Zangoose are version exclusive in single encounters, they can be found within [[Horde Encounter|hordes]] in both versions. However, in the version where they can only be found in a horde, only one is present in that horde and can be targeted by the other members of the horde. This is because both Pokémon are natural enemies.

==In other languages==
{{langtable|color={{locationcolor/light|land}}|bordercolor={{locationcolor/dark|land}}
|fr=Falaise Muraille
|de=Muraille-Küstenpfad
|it=Muraglia Costiera
|es=Muralla Costera
|ko=
}}
{{-}}
{{Kalos}} 
{{Project Routes notice}}

[[Category:Kalos locations]]
[[Category:Routes]]

[[de:Route 8 (Kalos)]]
[[fr:Route 8 (Kalos)]]
[[it:Percorso 8 (Kalos)]]
[[zh:8号道路（卡洛斯）]]

Razor Wind (move)

2013-10-31T21:19:45Z

Omega Metroid: /* By leveling up */

{{MoveInfobox|
n=13 |
name=Razor Wind |
jname=かまいたち |
jtranslit=Kamaitachi |
jtrans=Razor Wind |
gameimage=Razor Wind.png |
type=Normal |
damagecategory=Special |
basepp=10 |
maxpp=16 |
power=80 |
accuracy={{tt|100|75 prior to Generation III}} |
gen=I |
tm1=yes |
tm#1=02 |
na=no |
category=Cool |
appeal=3 |
jam=0 |
cdesc=Affected by how well the appeal in front goes. |
appealsc=1 |
scdesc=Earn +3 if no other Pokémon has chosen the same Judge. |
pokefordex=Razor%20Wind |
touches=no |
protect=yes |
magiccoat=no |
snatch=no |
brightpowder=yes |
kingsrock=yes |
flag7=no |
flag8=no |
sound=no |
target=adjacentfoes|
footnotes= }}
'''Razor Wind''' (Japanese: '''{{tt|かまいたち|Kamaitachi}}''' ''Razor Wind'') is a damage-dealing {{type|Normal}} [[move]] introduced in [[Generation I]]. It was [[TM02]] in said generation.

==Effect==
===Generation I===
Razor Wind does nothing on the turn it is selected, other than saying ''"<Pokémon> made a whirlwind!"''. On the following turn, Razor Wind inflicts damage, PP is deducted, and it will count as the last move used. Once Razor Wind is selected, the user will be unable to switch out until Razor Wind has been disrupted or fully executed. Accuracy in this Generation is 75%.

If Razor Wind is not fully executed, PP will not be deducted, and it will not count as the last move used. If the target uses {{m|Mirror Move}} during the turn that the user creates a whirlwind, Mirror Move will copy the move that the user executed immediately before using Razor Wind (or fail if it cannot).

{{status|Sleep}}, {{status|freeze}}, partial trapping, and {{status|flinch}}ing will pause but not disrupt the duration of Razor Wind.

In {{Eng|Pokémon Stadium}}, Mirror Move will copy Razor Wind on either of the turns it takes to execute.

===Generation II===
Razor Wind now has an increased [[critical hit]] ratio.

===Generation III===
Razor Wind now has an accuracy of 100%. Charging turn now says ''"<Pokémon> whipped up a whirlwind!"''

===Generation IV and on===
If a [[Power Herb]] is held by the user, Razor Wind can be executed in one turn.

Razor Wind hits both opponents in a [[Double Battle]]. In a [[Triple Battle]], Razor Wind will only hit opposing adjacent Pokémon.

==Description==
{{movedesc|normal}}
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrev3|Stad}}|A two-turn attack with the wind attack in the second turn. Learned by many <sc>Flying</sc>-type Pokémon.}}
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrev3|Stad2}}|A two-turn attack with the wind attack in the second turn. Learned by many <sc>Flying</sc> types.}}
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrev3|GSC}}|1st turn: Prepare 2nd turn: Attack}}
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrev3|RSE}}|A 2-turn move that strikes the foe on the 2nd turn.}}
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrev3|FRLG}}|Blades of wind hit the foe on the 2nd turn. It has a high critical-hit ratio.}}
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrev3|Colo}}{{gameabbrev3|XD}}|A 2-turn move that strikes the target on the 2nd turn.}}
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrev3|DPPt}}{{gameabbrev3|HGSS}}|A two-turn attack. Blades of wind hit the foe on the second turn. It has a high critical-hit ratio.}}
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrev3|BWB2W2}}{{gameabbrev3|XY}}|A two-turn attack. Blades of wind hit opposing Pokémon on the second turn. Critical hits land more easily.}}
|}
|}{{left clear}}

==Learnset==
===By [[Level|leveling up]]===
{{Moveheader/Level|Normal|1}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|123|Scyther|2|Bug|Flying|no|no|no|33|33}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|212|Scizor|2|Bug|Steel|no|no|no|33|33}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|274|Nuzleaf|2|Grass|Dark|no|no|37|37|37}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|359|Absol|1|Dark|Dark|no|no|17|17|17|B2W2=57}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|418|Buizel|1|Water|Water|no|no|no|45|45|B2W2=35}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|419|Floatzel|1|Water|Water|no|no|no|50|50|B2W2=41}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|519|Pidove|2|Normal|Flying|no|no|no|no|32|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|520|Tranquill|2|Normal|Flying|no|no|no|no|36|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|521|Unfezant|2|Normal|Flying|no|no|no|no|38|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|661|Fletchling|2|Normal|Flying|no|no|no|no|no|25|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|662|Fletchinder|2|Fire|Flying|no|no|no|no|no|27}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|663|Talonflame|2|Fire|Flying|no|no|no|no|no|27}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|694|Helioptile|2|Electric|Normal|no|no|no|no|no|22|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|714|Noibat|2|Flying|Dragon|no|no|no|no|no|31}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|715|Noivern|2|Flying|Dragon|no|no|no|no|no|31}}
{{Movefooter|Normal|1}}

===By {{pkmn|breeding}}===
{{Moveheader/Breed|Normal|2}}
{{Moveentry/Breed2|001|Bulbasaur|2|Grass|Poison|{{MSP|158|Totodile}}{{MSP|159|Croconaw}}{{MSP|160|Feraligatr}}|no|no|no|note=Chain breed}}
{{Moveentry/Breed2|021|Spearow|2|Normal|Flying|no|no|no|{{MSP|519|Pidove}}{{MSP|520|Tranquill}}{{MSP|521|Unfezant}}|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/Breed2|116|Horsea|1|Water|Water|no|no|no|HGSS={{MSP|418|Buizel}}{{MSP|419|Floatzel}}|{{MSP|418|Buizel}}{{MSP|419|Floatzel}}}}
{{Moveentry/Breed2|123|Scyther|2|Bug|Flying|{{MSP|012|Butterfree}}{{MSP|049|Venomoth}}|{{MSP|123|Scyther}}|{{MSP|123|Scyther}}{{MSP|212|Scizor}}|{{MSP|123|Scyther}}{{MSP|212|Scizor}}|note=Breed from TM in Gen II; Breed from purified Scyther in Gen III}}
{{Moveentry/Breed2|158|Totodile|1|Water|Water|{{MSP|141|Kabutops}}|no|no|no|note=Breed from TM in Gen II}}
{{Moveentry/Breed2|203|Girafarig|2|Normal|Psychic|no|no|no|HGSS={{MSP|274|Nuzleaf}}{{MSP|359|Absol}}{{MSP|418|Buizel}}{{MSP|419|Floatzel}}|{{MSP|274|Nuzleaf}}{{MSP|359|Absol}}{{MSP|418|Buizel}}{{MSP|419|Floatzel}}|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/Breed2|207|Gligar|2|Ground|Flying|{{MSP|012|Butterfree}}{{MSP|049|Venomoth}}|{{MSP|123|Scyther}}|{{MSP|123|Scyther}}{{MSP|212|Scizor}}|{{MSP|123|Scyther}}{{MSP|212|Scizor}}|note=Breed from TM in Gen II; Breed from purified Scyther in Gen III}}
{{Moveentry/Breed2|252|Treecko|1|Grass|Grass|no|no|no|HGSS={{MSP|116|Horsea}}{{MSP|357|Tropius}}|{{MSP|116|Horsea}}{{MSP|357|Tropius}}|note=Chain breed}}
{{Moveentry/Breed2|273|Seedot|1|Grass|Grass|no|{{MSP|274|Nuzleaf}}{{MSP|359|Absol}}|{{MSP|274|Nuzleaf}}{{MSP|359|Absol}}{{MSP|418|Buizel}}{{MSP|419|Floatzel}}|{{MSP|274|Nuzleaf}}{{MSP|359|Absol}}{{MSP|418|Buizel}}{{MSP|419|Floatzel}}}}
{{Moveentry/Breed2|335|Zangoose|1|Normal|Normal|no|{{MSP|274|Nuzleaf}}{{MSP|359|Absol}}|{{MSP|274|Nuzleaf}}{{MSP|359|Absol}}{{MSP|418|Buizel}}{{MSP|419|Floatzel}}|{{MSP|274|Nuzleaf}}{{MSP|359|Absol}}{{MSP|418|Buizel}}{{MSP|419|Floatzel}}|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/Breed2|357|Tropius|2|Grass|Flying|no|{{MSP|274|Nuzleaf}}|{{MSP|274|Nuzleaf}}|{{MSP|274|Nuzleaf}}}}
{{Moveentry/Breed2|540|Sewaddle|2|Bug|Grass|no|no|no|{{MSP|123|Scyther}}{{MSP|212|Scizor}}}}
{{Moveentry/Breed2|610|Axew|1|Dragon|Dragon|no|no|no|{{MSP|116|Horsea}}{{MSP|357|Tropius}}|note=Chain breed}}
{{Movefooter|Normal|2}}

===By [[TM]]===
{{Moveheader/TM|Normal|1|TM02|no|no|no|no|no}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|012|Butterfree|2|Bug|Flying|yes|no|no|no|no}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|016|Pidgey|2|Normal|Flying|yes|no|no|no|no|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|017|Pidgeotto|2|Normal|Flying|yes|no|no|no|no|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|018|Pidgeot|2|Normal|Flying|yes|no|no|no|no|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|021|Spearow|2|Normal|Flying|yes|no|no|no|no|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|022|Fearow|2|Normal|Flying|yes|no|no|no|no|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|041|Zubat|2|Poison|Flying|yes|no|no|no|no}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|042|Golbat|2|Poison|Flying|yes|no|no|no|no}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|049|Venomoth|2|Bug|Poison|yes|no|no|no|no}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|083|Farfetch'd|2|Normal|Flying|yes|no|no|no|no|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|141|Kabutops|2|Rock|Water|yes|no|no|no|no}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|142|Aerodactyl|2|Rock|Flying|yes|no|no|no|no}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|144|Articuno|2|Ice|Flying|yes|no|no|no|no}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|145|Zapdos|2|Electric|Flying|yes|no|no|no|no}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|146|Moltres|2|Fire|Flying|yes|no|no|no|no}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|149|Dragonite|2|Dragon|Flying|yes|no|no|no|no}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|151|Mew|1|Psychic|Psychic|yes|no|no|no|no}}
{{Movefooter|Normal|1}}

===Special move===
====[[Generation III]]====
{{Learnlistspecial|Normal}}
{{Moveentry|123|Scyther|2|Bug|Flying|[[Purification|Purified]] in {{pkmn|XD: Gale of Darkness}}}}
{{Learnlist/footer}}

==In the anime==
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{{movep|type=normal|ms=042|pkmn=Golbat|method=Golbat flaps its wings and a wind is created with sharp white energy inside it.}}
{{movemid|type=normal|user=Mandi|user1=Mandi's Golbat|startcode=EP075|startname=Round One - Begin!|notes=Debut}}
{{movep|type=normal|ms=359|pkmn=Absol|method=The scythe on Absol's head glows white and it swings its head, sending out a white crescent blade of energy at the opponent.}}
{{movemid|type=normal|user=Absol (Pokémon)|user1=A wild Absol|startcode=M06|startname=Jirachi: Wish Maker}}
{{movemid|type=normal|user=Absol (Pokémon)|user1=A wild Absol|startcode=AG107|startname=Absol-ute Disaster}}
{{movemid|type=normal|user=Mollie|user1=Mollie's Absol|startcode=AG167|startname=What I Did For Love!}}
{{movemid|type=normal|user=Drew|user1=Drew's Absol|startcode=AG181|startname=Thinning the Hoard!}}
{{movep|type=normal|ms=275|pkmn=Shiftry|method=Shiftry waves its fan-like hands and it creates a strong wind which forms into a tornado around the opponent, or Shiftry's fan-like hands glow white and it swings them, releasing a white crescent blade energy at the opponent.}}
{{movemid|type=normal|user=Angela|user1=Angela's Shiftry|startcode=AG156|startname=From Cradle to Save}}
{{movemid|type=normal|user=Shiftry (Pokémon)|user1=A wild Shiftry|startcode=DP014|startname=Leave it to Brocko!}}
{{movep|type=normal|ms=418|pkmn=Buizel|method=Buizel's tail glows white and it whips its body around, releasing a white crescent-shaped energy blade from its tail at the opponent.}}
{{movemid|type=normal|user=Buizel (Pokémon)|user1=A wild Buizel|startcode=PK17|startname=Pikachu's Island Adventure}}
{{movep|type=normal|ms=274|pkmn=Nuzleaf|method=The leaf on Nuzleaf's head glows white and it swings it, releasing multiple white crescent blades of energy at the opponent.}}
{{movemid|type=normal|user=Nuzleaf (Pokémon)|user1=A wild Nuzleaf|startcode=DP014|startname=Leave it to Brocko!}}
{{movep|type=normal|ms=123|pkmn=Scyther|method=Scyther crosses its scythes and they start to glow white. It then brings them forward and multiple white crescent shaped energy beams come out and hit the opponent.}}
{{movemid|type=normal|user=Scyther (Pokémon)|user1=Unknown Trainer's Scyther|startcode=DP050|startname=Tag! We're It...!}}
{{movep|type=normal|ms=335|pkmn=Zangoose|method=Zangoose waves its claw and releases a white, crescent-shaped energy from its claw at the opponent.}}
{{movemid|type=normal|user=Zangoose (Pokémon)|user1=A wild Zangoose|startcode=DP051|startname=Glory Blaze!}}
{{movep|type=normal|ms=419|pkmn=Floatzel|method=The two fins on Floatzel's arms glow white and it swings them, firing two or multiple white, crescent-shaped energy disks from them at the opponent.}}
{{movemid|type=normal|user=Crasher Wake|user1=Crasher Wake's Floatzel|startcode=DP083|startname=A Crasher Course in Power!}}
{{movemid|type=normal|user=Kenny (Sinnoh)|user1=Kenny's Floatzel|startcode=DP174|startname=Last Call - First Round!}}
{{movep|type=normal|ms=212|pkmn=Scizor|method=Scizor crosses its arms and both of its claws glow white. It then slashes the air in front of it, causing a powerful wind to appear and blow the opponent away. As it slashes, it leaves behind a white trail of energy.}}
{{movebtm|type=normal|user=Goone|user1=Goone's Scizor|startcode=M13|startname=Zoroark: Master of Illusions}}

==In the manga==
===In the Pokémon Adventures manga===
{{movemanga|type=normal|exp=yes|gen=The user slashes the opponent.|image1=Koga Golbat Razor Wind Adventures.png|image1p=Golbat|image2=Skyla Unfezant Razor Wind Adventures.png|image2p=Unfezant}}
{{movep|type=normal|ms=042|pkmn=Golbat|method=Golbat slashes the opponent with one of its wings.}}
{{movemid|type=normal|user=Koga's Golbat|startcode=PS029|startname=Go for the Golbat!|notes=Debut}}
{{movep|type=normal|ms=521F|pkmn=Unfezant|method=Unfezant fires a blade of razor sharp air from its wing at the opponent.}}
{{movebtm|type=normal|user=Skyla|user1=Skyla's Unfezant|startcode=ABW36|startname=Museum Showdown}}

==In other generations==
{{Movegen|
type=normal|
genI=Razor Wind I|
genII=Razor Wind II|
genIII=Razor Wind III|
genIV=Razor Wind IV|
}}

==Trivia==
* Despite being introduced in [[Generation I]], no Pokémon could learn it by leveling up until [[Generation III]].
** [[Version-exclusive moves|No Pokémon are able to learn]] Razor Wind in [[Generation II]] without the player trading with a Generation I game first.
* Razor Wind has the lowest [[index number]] of all [[special move]]s.
* The Japanese name of the move, {{wp|Kamaitachi}}, is a direct reference to the Japanese {{wp|yōkai}} of the same name. Kamaitachi is a weasel that depicted with sharp claws, riding on a gust of wind and cutting people's skin on the legs.

==In other languages==
{{Langtable|color={{normal color}}|bordercolor={{normal color dark}}
|zh_cmn=旋風刀 ''{{tt|Xuànfēngdāo|Whirlwind Blade}}''
|nl=Messenstorm
|fi=Viiltotuuli
|fr=Coupe-Vent
|de=Klingensturm
|el=Άνεμος Θεριστής
|hi=तेज़ धार हवाए ''Tez Dhaar Havaae''
|it=Ventagliente
|ko=칼바람 ''Kalbaram''
|pt_eu=Lâmina de Vento
|pt_br=Lâmina de Vento
|sr=Razorni Vetar
|es=Viento Cortante {{tt|(Gen. VI)|"Normalized" name, without abbreviations.}} ''V. Cortante'' {{tt|(Prior to Gen. VI)|Modified due to the twelve-character limit for move names.}}
|ro=Razor Wind
|tr=Jilet Rüzgâr
}}

{{Generation I TMs}}
{{-}}
{{Project Moves and Abilities notice}}
[[Category:Moves with a high critical-hit ratio]]

[[de:Klingensturm]]
[[es:Viento Cortante]]
[[fr:Coupe-Vent]]
[[it:Ventagliente (mossa)]]
[[ja:かまいたち]]
[[pl:Razor Wind]]
[[pt:Razor Wind]]
[[zh:旋风刀（技能）]]

Talk:Bidoof (Pokémon)

2013-10-31T03:42:58Z

Omega Metroid: /* Gen VI Move List */

==VGCats Trivia==
Is the trivia about bidoof being called the vendor trash Pokémon on VGCats really notable? [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] '''''[[Special:Contributions/Turtwig_A|Contributions]]''''' '''''[[User talk:Turtwig A|Talk]]''''' 22:25, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
:It's interesting enough for me. It gives a view of Bidoof in the fanbase. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 01:10, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

== Edit request ==

→Pokedex entries
:<nowiki>|heartgolddex={{tt|みずべで　むれを　つくって　くらす。まえばで　かじるため　すの　まわりの　いわや　きが　けずられている。|It forms herds and lives by the waterside. The rocks and trees by their nests become whittled down in order to knaw with their front teeth.}}</nowiki>
♥ [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 17:56, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

==Trivia==
Would it be notable trivia to say that all of the abilities of Bidoof and it's evolution have to do with stat changes?{{unsigned|Poisson14}}

== Trivia ==

Is it notable enough that Moody almost got Bidoofs banned from tournaments? [[User:TeamPlasmaN1212|TeamPlasmaN1212]] ([[User talk:TeamPlasmaN1212|talk]]) 20:07, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

==X & Y Location==
According to the Pokedex, it's on route 3 and 22. It's a field pokemon.

I would add it to the page but, for the life of me, can't figure out how to edit the table.

[[User:Lebon14|Lebon14]] ([[User talk:Lebon14|talk]]) 03:50, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

== Gen VI Move List ==

So, as I've done on the discussion pages for a few Pokémon, I think we should make a list of what moves it learns at what level, to make the new list for the main page. If anyone agrees, contribute anything that you know.
Tilde Tilde Tilde Tilde [[User:Omega Metroid|Omega Metroid]] ([[User talk:Omega Metroid|talk]]) 05:37, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

* A Lv.3 Bidoof starts with [[Tackle]], so it's learned at 1-3 (added by [[User:Omega Metroid|Omega Metroid]] ([[User talk:Omega Metroid|talk]]) 05:37, 29 October 2013 (UTC)).
* Learns [[Growl]] at Lv.5 (added by [[User:Omega Metroid|Omega Metroid]] ([[User talk:Omega Metroid|talk]]) 05:37, 29 October 2013 (UTC)).
* Learns [[Defense Curl]] at Lv.9 (added by [[User:Omega Metroid|Omega Metroid]] ([[User talk:Omega Metroid|talk]]) 05:55, 29 October 2013 (UTC)).
* Learns [[Rollout]] at Lv.13 (added by [[User:Omega Metroid|Omega Metroid]] ([[User talk:Omega Metroid|talk]]) 18:00, 29 October 2013 (UTC)).
* Learns [[Headbutt]] at Lv.17 (added by [[User:Omega Metroid|Omega Metroid]] ([[User talk:Omega Metroid|talk]]) 19:08, 29 October 2013 (UTC)).
* Learns [[Hyper Fang]] at Lv.21 (added by [[User:Omega Metroid|Omega Metroid]] ([[User talk:Omega Metroid|talk]]) 21:58, 29 October 2013 (UTC)).
* Learns [[Yawn]] at Lv.25 (added by [[User:Omega Metroid|Omega Metroid]] ([[User talk:Omega Metroid|talk]]) 03:42, 31 October 2013 (UTC)). I would appreciate it if someone else would finish the list, I'm evolving mine because I need an HM slave.

It can learn the following moves from TMs:
* [[Protect]] (TM17)
* [[Frustration]] (TM21)
* [[Return]] (TM27)
* [[Rest]] (TM44)
* [[Thief]] (TM46)
* [[Sleep Talk]] (TM88)
* [[Rock Smash]] (TM94)
I don't have TMs 2-8, 10-16, 18-20, 22-26, 28-38, 40-43, 45, 47-53, 55-64, 66-82, 84-87, 89-93, 95, or 97+ yet, so it would be appreciated if anyone else could confirm whether or not Bidoof can learn those ones.
[[User:Omega Metroid|Omega Metroid]] ([[User talk:Omega Metroid|talk]]) 20:26, 30 October 2013 (UTC)

It can learn the following moves from HMs:
* [[Cut]] (HM01)
I don't have any HMs other than Cut or [[Strength]] yet, so I can't confirm if it can learn those. It can NOT learn Strength from the HM.
[[User:Omega Metroid|Omega Metroid]] ([[User talk:Omega Metroid|talk]]) 20:26, 30 October 2013 (UTC)

Talk:Bidoof (Pokémon)

2013-10-30T20:26:59Z

Omega Metroid: /* Gen VI Move List */

==VGCats Trivia==
Is the trivia about bidoof being called the vendor trash Pokémon on VGCats really notable? [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] '''''[[Special:Contributions/Turtwig_A|Contributions]]''''' '''''[[User talk:Turtwig A|Talk]]''''' 22:25, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
:It's interesting enough for me. It gives a view of Bidoof in the fanbase. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 01:10, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

== Edit request ==

→Pokedex entries
:<nowiki>|heartgolddex={{tt|みずべで　むれを　つくって　くらす。まえばで　かじるため　すの　まわりの　いわや　きが　けずられている。|It forms herds and lives by the waterside. The rocks and trees by their nests become whittled down in order to knaw with their front teeth.}}</nowiki>
♥ [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 17:56, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

==Trivia==
Would it be notable trivia to say that all of the abilities of Bidoof and it's evolution have to do with stat changes?{{unsigned|Poisson14}}

== Trivia ==

Is it notable enough that Moody almost got Bidoofs banned from tournaments? [[User:TeamPlasmaN1212|TeamPlasmaN1212]] ([[User talk:TeamPlasmaN1212|talk]]) 20:07, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

==X & Y Location==
According to the Pokedex, it's on route 3 and 22. It's a field pokemon.

I would add it to the page but, for the life of me, can't figure out how to edit the table.

[[User:Lebon14|Lebon14]] ([[User talk:Lebon14|talk]]) 03:50, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

== Gen VI Move List ==

So, as I've done on the discussion pages for a few Pokémon, I think we should make a list of what moves it learns at what level, to make the new list for the main page. If anyone agrees, contribute anything that you know.
Tilde Tilde Tilde Tilde [[User:Omega Metroid|Omega Metroid]] ([[User talk:Omega Metroid|talk]]) 05:37, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

* A Lv.3 Bidoof starts with [[Tackle]], so it's learned at 1-3 (added by [[User:Omega Metroid|Omega Metroid]] ([[User talk:Omega Metroid|talk]]) 05:37, 29 October 2013 (UTC)).
* Learns [[Growl]] at Lv.5 (added by [[User:Omega Metroid|Omega Metroid]] ([[User talk:Omega Metroid|talk]]) 05:37, 29 October 2013 (UTC)).
* Learns [[Defense Curl]] at Lv.9 (added by [[User:Omega Metroid|Omega Metroid]] ([[User talk:Omega Metroid|talk]]) 05:55, 29 October 2013 (UTC)).
* Learns [[Rollout]] at Lv.13 (added by [[User:Omega Metroid|Omega Metroid]] ([[User talk:Omega Metroid|talk]]) 18:00, 29 October 2013 (UTC)).
* Learns [[Headbutt]] at Lv.17 (added by [[User:Omega Metroid|Omega Metroid]] ([[User talk:Omega Metroid|talk]]) 19:08, 29 October 2013 (UTC)).
* Learns [[Hyper Fang]] at Lv.21 (added by [[User:Omega Metroid|Omega Metroid]] ([[User talk:Omega Metroid|talk]]) 21:58, 29 October 2013 (UTC)).

It can learn the following moves from TMs:
* [[Protect]] (TM17)
* [[Frustration]] (TM21)
* [[Return]] (TM27)
* [[Rest]] (TM44)
* [[Thief]] (TM46)
* [[Sleep Talk]] (TM88)
* [[Rock Smash]] (TM94)
I don't have TMs 2-8, 10-16, 18-20, 22-26, 28-38, 40-43, 45, 47-53, 55-64, 66-82, 84-87, 89-93, 95, or 97+ yet, so it would be appreciated if anyone else could confirm whether or not Bidoof can learn those ones.
[[User:Omega Metroid|Omega Metroid]] ([[User talk:Omega Metroid|talk]]) 20:26, 30 October 2013 (UTC)

It can learn the following moves from HMs:
* [[Cut]] (HM01)
I don't have any HMs other than Cut or [[Strength]] yet, so I can't confirm if it can learn those. It can NOT learn Strength from the HM.
[[User:Omega Metroid|Omega Metroid]] ([[User talk:Omega Metroid|talk]]) 20:26, 30 October 2013 (UTC)

Talk:Kalos Route 8

2013-10-29T23:09:26Z

Omega Metroid: /* Intro */

I'm pretty sure I encountered a [[Skrelp]] in the upper path, but I'm not sure if it was in the grass or the yellow flowers.
Tilde Tilde Tilde Tilde [[User:Omega Metroid|Omega Metroid]] ([[User talk:Omega Metroid|talk]]) 23:09, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

Talk:Kalos Route 8

2013-10-29T23:09:09Z

Omega Metroid: Created page with "I'm pretty sure I encountered a Skrelp in the upper path, but I'm not sure if it was in the grass or the yellow flowers."

I'm pretty sure I encountered a [[Skrelp]] in the upper path, but I'm not sure if it was in the grass or the yellow flowers.

Talk:Bidoof (Pokémon)

2013-10-29T21:58:27Z

Omega Metroid: /* Gen VI Move List */

Talk:Phenomenon

2013-10-29T21:08:39Z

Omega Metroid: /* Gen VI Phenomena */ new section

==Names==
I've seen various iterations throughout the wiki, so let's decide once and for all: is it "Shaking Spots" or "Shaking Patches"? [[User:Sidnoea|Sidnoea]] 21:36, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
:From what we had seen, it was Shaking '''spots''', it's more general, but I'm not really sure. [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|''talk'']] 21:43, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
::Actually, these are the confirmed ones: '''Rustling Grass''', '''Dust Cloud''', '''Flying Pokémon's Shadow''', and '''Rippling Water'''. [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|''talk'']] 21:58, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
:::Just make sure that they are lowercase, so '''rustling grass''', '''dust cloud''', '''flying Pokémon's shadow''', and '''rippling water'''. But yes, these are the names w got from a magazine. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 01:01, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

==Occurrence==
Has anyone looked into how phenomena occurs? All I've been able to gather so far is that it's step based and has some random element, like normal wild encounters. I don't know if the probability of phenomena occurring increases with more steps or if it's just entirely random though. I'm somewhat wiki retarded, so sorry if the talk page isn't the right place for this, or if it's not formatted well (and if it doesn't belong here, sorry, and certainly delete it). [[User:Omfgzergrush|Omfgzergrush]] 09:14, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
:As far as I've experienced, it's entirely random. Sometimes it occurs within a handful of steps, sometimes it occurs after running around for a minute or two. --[[User:Zoen|Zoen]] 22:04, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
::I'm actually fairly sure you don't even need to be moving to trigger it. I left my game sitting for about five minutes only to notice that a patch of grass had started shaking.--[[User:Skaisdead|Skaisdead]] ([[User talk:Skaisdead|talk]]) 09:54, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

== Encounter List ==

I noticed somebody's just copied the horribly incomplete encounter list from the beginning of the guide. I don't know how to insert it in the article, but here's a full one: [[User:Bluesun|Bluesun]] 17:01, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

Method 
Found in pre-credits areas
--
Found only in post-credits areas

Walk 
Audino Musharna
Panpour Pansage
Pansear Cincinno
Emonga Leafanny
Unfheasant Stoutland
Sock W/Throw B
LilligantW/WhimsicottB
Runiclus W/GothitelleB
--
Gliscor Tyranitar
Wigglytuff Ninetales
Crobat Tangrowth
Clefable Mamoswine
Metagross Sunflora
Vespiquen
MismagiusW/HonchkrowB
ButterfreeW/BeedrillB

Surf 
Basculin W/Basculin B
Alomolola Jellicent
Seismitoad Stunfisk
--
Buoysel Flowsel
Slowpoke Slowbro
Slowking Corsola
Mantine Lapras
Wailmer Wailord
Sealeo Walrein
Staryu Starmie
Seel Dewgong

Fish 
Basculin W/Basculin B
Feebas Milotic
Goldeen Seaking
Poliwhirl Poliwrath
Politoed Relicanth
Gorebyss W/Huntail B
Kingler Luvdisc
Chinchou Lanturn
Seadra Kingdra
Lumineon Qwilfish
Barboach Whiscash
Dratini Dragonair
Dragonite Stunfisk
--
Shellder Cloyster
Carvanha Sharpedo
Octillery

== Item Encounters ==

Do the items that you get from the dust clouds differ from cave to cave? Because I've been burning through 450+ Super Repels trying to find one Fire Stone in the Giant Chasm and I've found more than one of every other stone except the Thunderstone and the aforementioned Fire Stone. I've also noticed I've been getting more Leaf Stones and Dusk Stones than the other stones. [[User:Porygon-man|Porygon-man]] 22:50, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
:That'd be an interesting thing to look into. I've gotten a Sun Stone in Wellspring Cave. I wouldn't be surprised about your theory considering the Pokémon depends on the cave. This'll require some investigating! :P [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 22:53, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
I've found every item in dust clouds in every cave, so this discussion is futile. I'm checking per cave right now, but I'm sure that I'm not mistaken here.--[[User:Muk-a-matic|Muk-a-matic-Maketh the Muk go round...]] 23:08, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
:Okay, I was running through Giant Chasm just now, and it gave me a Fire Stone in a dust cloud, and a Thunderstone in the next one. >_> Still, I wonder if the chances of getting an item vary from cave to cave or I'm just having bad luck. [[User:Porygon-man|Porygon-man]] 23:26, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
I don't know how to add some to the list for dust clouds but they have oval stones in them as well--[[User:Ovidkid|Ovidkid]] 05:45, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
:Regarding stone appearance rates, I just ran a little experiment. In Wellspring Cave, out of 100 dust clouds, I got 9 stones. However, 6 of these were Everstones, which seems a disproportionately high number (I also got a Sun Stone, Shiny Stone and Moon Stone). So I would suspect that appearance rate does vary between caves. We really need to look at the game data to prove this, though. [[User:Bikini Miltank|Bikini Miltank]] 14:26, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

== Could someone add the Moon Stone to the list of Dust Cloud Items? ==
Because I just got 2 in a row from them.(I'm bad at templating)K THNX BI.--[[User:Muk-a-matic|Muk-a-matic-Maketh the Muk go round...]] 21:16, 27 July 2011 (UTC)
:I was reorganizing the table to look like it does on the [[Cave tile]] page, and I didn't realize I had removed it. I've fixed my mistake though. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 21:27, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

== A question ==

Does the "possible encounter" of rippling water means it's not fixed that one will face them or does that means that we can only face them on rare chances? [[User:Flygonfanno1|Flygonfanno1]]
:Pokémon that are listed are the only ones that appear in rippling water; for example, Frillish is never encountered.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|電禅]][[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|Den Zen]]''' 13:39, 2 September 2011 (UTC)
::I know that too. My question was what does "Possible encounter" means? Does it mean we may or may not face it at all? [[User:Flygonfanno1|Flygonfanno1]]
:::Well, when you encounter a Pokémon by any means, unless only one is available, you will encounter one from a list of several Pokémon, hence "possible". However, the Pokémon found by each phenomenon are different in each location (although often some are the same, such as Audino and Basculin). You can see which Pokémon can be found in each location on those location's pages. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 04:53, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

== Phenomena distance ==

From moving around for ages and going through dozens of these, I think it's safe to say that phenomena occur inside of a 9x9 grid around your character, or anywhere within 4 steps horizontally and vertically. This means if you want to get a guaranteed phenomena in grass without having to run through additional grass and risk losing it to an encounter, take 4 steps away from the grass and run parallel to it. This is how I typically level up on Audinos on Route 13. --[[User:Zoen|Zoen]] 19:21, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

==Dust Cloud split for B2W2==
Since the shards and the other items are found in separate locations I am thinking of splitting the shards into their own section since they are only found in places like Relic Passage and Reverse Mountain, while the rest are found at other caves.-[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] ([[User talk:Tyler53841|talk]]) 14:44, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

== Steelix ==

I added Steelix but the BW2 list edge is messed up. Someone please fix it. [[User:Shepeedy|Shepeedy]] ([[User talk:Shepeedy|talk]]) 17:22, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

== Walking with a partner ==

I've noticed that entering a phenomenon spot when an NPC is following you will trigger a double battle with Pokemon that are exclusive to the phenomenon. In Black 2, I encountered a wild double battle with two Excadrill as Bianca was following me. They very well could have been the exact same Pokemon, as they were both level 34 male. I'm not sure if this happens in BW. Is this worth noting anywhere? --[[User:Skaisdead|Skaisdead]] ([[User talk:Skaisdead|talk]]) 09:47, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

== Mistake in Dust Clouds BW2 list ==

The list of available items in "Dust Clouds" for BW2 shows that only 14 out of 17 gems (missing bug, fighting and ice) and 9 out of 10 evolution stones (missing water stone) are possible to find. This is incorrect, after "hunting" for an hour to check it I have found all of the missing gems (bug, ice, fighting) but I couldn't find water stone so I am not sure about this one.
I will change the list right now but without adding water stone, I would be very glad if somebody confirm if water stone is available or not. --[[User:Jasza676|Jasza676]] ([[User talk:Jasza676|talk]]) 16:20, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

== Phenomena occurences ==

Can we get someone to confirm for sure whether Phenomena spawns are time-based or step-based? I've seen both opinions and it would be useful infomation for people who need dust clouds, because if it is time based then there is no reason to spend cash on repels. [[User:Whitsoxrule|Whitsoxrule]] ([[User talk:Whitsoxrule|talk]]) 20:26, 24 March 2013 (UTC)
:They're step based. --[[User:Funktastic~!|'''It's''' '''Funktastic~!''']][[User talk:Funktastic~!|''話してください'']] 20:29, 24 March 2013 (UTC)
::I know this was a couple months ago, but I just wanted to confirm it. I proced a Phenomena (using steps) and then left the game running for about 24 hours, it didn't go away. Walking back and forth in front of a couple patches of grass I can create one about every 120 secs or so. With no Phenomena nearby, I stood in the middle of a bunch of grass and left the game running for another 24 hours, when I came back there was no new Phenomena. Thus, can't be just time based as if they had appeared they wouldn't have gone away. Also, after creating almost 50x Phenomena over a couple hours, I can also confirm that they appear within an 11x11 grid around you. I think that this kind of information should be included on the main page, rather than people having to dig through the discussion section for it. [[User:Degrelecence|Degrelecence]] ([[User talk:Degrelecence|talk]]) 04:39, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
::EDIT: I also forgot to mention, that using an emulator I proved (using save states) that the encounter is determined when the Phenomena is created, not once it is entered (not that it matters). [[User:Degrelecence|Degrelecence]] ([[User talk:Degrelecence|talk]]) 04:43, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

== I thought rippling water Pokemon only appeared with the fishing rod? ==

But it says it works with surfing too? --[[User:Phoenixon|Phoenixon]] ([[User talk:Phoenixon|talk]]) 15:25, 24 June 2013 (UTC)
:When the ripples appear, you can surf into them, or fish in them. --[[User:Funktastic~!|'''It's''' '''Funktastic~!''']][[User talk:Funktastic~!|''話してください'']] 15:50, 24 June 2013 (UTC)

== Gen VI Phenomena ==

So, since there's no mention on the main page, I figured I'd put some info here for whoever updates it.
Tilde Tilde Tilde Tilde [[User:Omega Metroid|Omega Metroid]] ([[User talk:Omega Metroid|talk]]) 21:08, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

* [[Kalos Route 6]]: Rustling bushes, where you can encounter either [[Venipede]] or [[Audino]]. Personally, I have yet to see this, but it's mentioned on the three linked pages.
* [[Glittering Cave]]: In the second room, the one where you meet Team Flare for the first time, Pokémon can drop down from the ceiling. So far, I've encountered [[Woobat]] and [[Ferroseed]] this way.

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== HP ==

Does the HP of Shedinja ever raise above one with leveling? {{unsigned|Viridis.net@gmail.com}}

Nope. It stays 1 forever. --[[User:Zeta|Zeta]] 19:07, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

The article says the only way to know Shedinja's HP IV is finding out its "brother" Ninjask IV, but couldn't we figure it out by knowing Hidden Power type and power? [[User:Diby esp|Gabriel Rocha (Diby esp)]] 23:49, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
:I think you are confusing {{stat|HP}} and {{m|Hidden Power|HP}}. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 23:52, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
::But isn't {{m|Hidden Power|HP}} determined by IVs such as {{stat|HP}}'s? [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|You enter a poorly lit room...]] 23:57, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
:::{{m|Hidden Power}}'s type and power depend on every stat IV. If you know the Attack, Defense, Special Attack, Special Defense and Speed IV, then knowing our Shedinja's Hidden Power type and power would take us to an obvious conclusion of its HP IV, wouldn't it? [[User:Diby esp|Gabriel Rocha (Diby esp)]] 00:43, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
::::No, it wouldn't. The formula for calculating the strength and type of Hidden Power relies only on the IVs modulo 2 and modulo 4. For example, if you could change a Shedinja's HP IV from 1 to 29, the type and power of Hidden Power would not change. This is because 1 and 29 are congruent modulo 2 and modulo 4. For more information, see the "Number of possible Hidden Powers" section of the Hidden Power calculation article. [[User:Ali 247|Ali 247]] 17:53, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

== Best type? ==

Due to Shedinja's ability, Wonder Guard, is there any combined set of types that would leave it immune to damage (not counting status-affecting moves and weather)? [[User:Casmith 789|Casmith 789]] 15:18, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
:Dark/Ghost and Ghost/Dark, the types of {{p|Spiritomb}} and {{p|Sableye}}, combine to have no weakness (except when Foresight, Odor Sleuth, and/or Miracle Eye are used). Neither of them have Wonder Guard, though. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 03:09, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
::Thanks, after finally catching a Spiritomb I figured this out for myself! [[User:Casmith 789|Casmith 789]] 08:46, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
maybe it would be more usable with the Focus Sash?- ''unsigned comment from [[User:Logicalfighter666|Logicalfighter666]] ([[User talk:Logicalfighter666|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Logicalfighter666|contribs]]){{ #if: | {{{2}}} |}}''
there would be no such thing as a super effective attack.
:::It's completely impossible to be immune from damage, no matter what one does. Even a (hacked, let's say) Dark/Ghost-type with Wonder Guard would be hurt by weather attacks. Since you can't combine Air Lock and Wonder Guard, it is impossible to not take any damage. [[User:LordArceus|'''Lord''']][[User talk:LordArceus|'''Arc''']][[Special:Contributions/LordArceus|'''eus''']] 14:40, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
::::Double Battle. But you are right that it is impossible to be immune from damage: status damage. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Nos hablamos?]] 14:43, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

== Poke ball ==

Ive tried evolving a nincada twice in my diamond game and it only gave me a shedinja the second time after id bought a poke ball, in both instances i had a spare space in my party.
Perhaps you only need a poke ball in diamond/pearl?- ''unsigned comment from [[User:Itxi|Itxi]] ([[User talk:Itxi|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Itxi|contribs]]){{ #if: | {{{2}}} |}}''
:I've always done it with an extra Pokéball. --[[User:DarkfireTaimatsu|DarkfireTaimatsu]] 08:59, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
::I was wondering because in the trivia section it states that one isnt needed. --[[User:Itxi|Itxi]] 09:02, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
:::Then where does the Pokéball in my inventory go once I've obtained Shedinja, hmm? --[[User:DarkfireTaimatsu|DarkfireTaimatsu]] 09:09, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
::::Presicely, I just thought it might be better to start a discussion on it first than just deleting the text. --[[User:Itxi|Itxi]] 09:11, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
:::::You're wrong. I just tested it out. I got a Nincada in my party with an extra slot. I didn't have any Poké balls. When it evolved, I still got a Shedinja. If a Poké ball dissapears when you get a Shedinja then you're being ripped off. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|ケンジ]][[User:Kenji-girl|ガール]] 09:20, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
::::::What game are you playing? I said that i tried it with a pokeball and without and it only works with. This is on Diamond --[[User:Itxi|Itxi]] 09:28, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
:::::::This is Emerald. I don't know. Maybe the mechanics are different in in Diamond. But you definetly don't need a Poké Ball in Emerald.
::::::::Hopefully that edit covers it all :) --[[User:Itxi|Itxi]] 09:36, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::We may want to clarify that the Poké Ball needed must be an actual Poké Ball and not any other type of Ball, eg. Great Ball, Net Ball, or Dusk Ball. [[User:ESeamus|ESeamus]] 07:41, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::: I was bold and edited it. [[User:Lady BlahDeBlah|Lady BlahDeBlah]] 11:29, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::::I think that maybe Eseamus was right, because a friend of mine tried it with a great ball, and it didn't work. [[User talk:Dolphin2|Dolphins]] [[User:Dolphin2|are]] [[Special:Contributions/Dolphin2|awesome]] (and [[Vulpix (Pokémon)|Vulpix]] are too) 19:16, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

== Recent Edit ==

Is the whole thing about the hole in the back being visible needed? I mean, of course it's going to be visible, your looking at it from a behind perspective, AND it is a video game, they don't steal your soul. --[[User:Midnight Celtic|Midnight Celtic]] 18:39, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
:Well, how it appears in the anime would be way more realistic. You're right, if you die in a bloody video for example, or get hurt, you're perfectly fine in real life. So I think that trivia is pretty pointless, it's not like it's a goof. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 11:20, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
::I think it's wrong because you have to look insde the hole, not look at it from afar. the back sprite shows it from afar, whereas if you wanted your soul to be stolen, you would have to put your eye up close to Shedinja... XD. I'll remove it. [[User:Tesh|'''TESH''']][[User_talk:Tesh|'''IGIGAS''']] 11:34, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
:::I removed it weeks ago... somebody must have added it again...[[User:Crystallucario|'''''Crystal''''']] [[User talk:Crystallucario|'''''Lucario''''']] 11:50, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

== Breeding ==

If you breed a Shedinja with a Ditto, will you get a Nincada or another Shedinja? It doesn't say anywhere on the page. Since Shedinja is just Nincada's old exoskeleton brought to life, it would be weird if it could produce a whole new Nincada on its own. - [[User:Buddy Christ|Buddy Christ]] 22:44, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
:Last time I checked Shedinja doesn't have a gender, and I somehow doubt that a Ditto can breed the genderless as it has gender last time I remember. You can prove me wrong, it has been a long time since I last checked. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 22:32, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
::Ditto can breed with the genderless, otherwise we'd have no {{p|Phione}}, no baby {{p|Porygon}}, and a heck of a lot of problems. It's the genderless that can't interbreed. Ditto makes it all possible (unless you're in the {{egg2|No eggs}}). It results in a Nincada, same as if you bred the Ninjask. The only odd thing is... Shedinja is in the {{egg2|Mineral}}... Nincada and Ninjask are in the {{egg|Bug}}... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:47, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
:::Ditto is genderless(random comment).[[User:Kkllnn|Blastoise RULZ]] 21:07, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

== Scrappy or Foresight will onlywork with Mold Breaker ==
As they aren't super-effective even after Foresight (and Fighting wouid even be "resisted"). --[[User:Gorebyss|Gorebyss]] 08:21, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

== Focus Sash ==

what would happen when focus sash is equipped to shedy? [[User:Atomix26|Atomix26]] 19:08, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
:It can withstand one hit that would otherwise faint it. — [[User:Laoris|Laoris]] ([[User_Talk:Laoris|Blah]]) 19:17, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
::Yes, since Focus Sash is only one use. But if you equip Focus Band, then it's possible it could survive for a lot longer. Of course, it's equally possible it'll die on the first hit.--[[User:Celebi96|Celebi96]] 00:40, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

== Gender ==
When I use the name rater, despite being genderless, Shedinja will have a gender when we write a new nickname. Wouldn't that be a nice information for trivia? [[User:Diby esp|Gabriel Rocha (Diby esp)]] 02:19, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
:I have confirmation of this... If someone can determine where the gender comes from this would be great. At the moment I'm picking the same gender as your Nijask. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 03:24, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

== Flail and Reversal ==
I know it's impossible for a Shedinja to have either of these moves without hacking, but supposed one was hacked to have either of these moves... would it have 20 Power because it's at max HP, or would it have 200 power because it only has 1 HP? --[[User:Derian|Derian]] 16:36, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
:That's probably the reason why it's impossible. [[User:Valorum27|Valorum27]] 00:04, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

== Edit request ==

→Pokedex entries
:<nowiki>|heartgolddex={{tt|ハネを　うごかさずに　とびまわる。からだの　なかは　からっぽで　いきを　しない　ふしぎな　ポケモン。|It flies around without moving its wings. A strange Pokémon that doesn't breathe and has an empty body.}}</nowiki>
♥ [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 17:54, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

Small edit requests. First, can you make a ==Pokedex entries== thing over the anime Pokedex entries, and second, can you put a comma in between body and giving? Please and thank you. [[User:Littlmiget123|Littlmiget123]] 17:27, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

== Breeding generation 4 ==

I've managed to teach my nincada/ shedinja toxic by breeding from a dustox in emerald. if someone wants to verify this works of generation 4 games, too and add it to the page it'd be nice.
:Nincada can learn Toxic by TM. TM moves known by the father are passed down to the egg if the egg's species is capable of learning the TM, regardless of whether the father learned it by TM or not. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 20:16, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

==HP Up==
What about with an HP Up?--[[User:Dratini Egg|Dratini Egg]] 20:18, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
:It's HP is ''always'' 1, regardless of IV and EVs. HP Ups just add EVs, which are completely ignored for Shedinja's HP. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 02:43, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

== Shinyness ==

If this is already in the article, i must not have noticed, but...

-Will a shiny Nincada always produce a shiny Shedinja when it evolves?
-If the Nincada is not shiny, is there a chance the Shedinja will be anyway? [[User:Flyingtypefan|Flyingtypefan]] 05:27, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
:To answer your first question, yes. A shiny Nincada will produce a shiny Shedinja. It also answers your second question. No. A normal Nincada will never make a shiny Shedinja. Because of identical values and such. I'm not good with that stuff. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 05:22, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. It may seem kind of obvious, but i was just checking, because if it were different, it might have been trivia worthy. [[User:Flyingtypefan|Flyingtypefan]] 05:27, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

Can't this fact be put under Trivia? {{unsigned|Gideon Kreeter}}
:Why? The Shedinja will always have the same personality value (therefore same IVs, Nature, Shinyness, etc.) as the Nincada it (sort of) evolves from. Just like any other Pokémon. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 04:00, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

== Gen IV Poison? ==

Is Shedinja really immune to Poison damage in Gen IV? [[User:Diachronos|Diachronos]] 18:04, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
:Yes, due to its ability. Why? [[User:Turtwig A|Turtwig's]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A-B-Cs]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 18:05, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
::I think he means Poison status condition. I often use Shedinja and it can be poisoned.--[[User:Dennou Zenshi|でんのう]] ☢ [[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|'''Z'''えんし]] 18:36, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

I don't mean immune to being Poisoned, I mean immune to taking damage after being Poisoned. I was curious because it seems kind of weird for it to be immune to Poison damage without being immune to any other non-super-effective damage. [[User:Diachronos|Diachronos]] 19:20, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
:Actually, Poison hasn't been super effective to Bug since Gen I. And furthermore, Shedinja's Ghost type would made it '''resist''' Poison.--[[User:Dennou Zenshi|でんのう]] ☢ [[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|'''Z'''えんし]] 19:27, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
::{{a|Wonder Guard}} will only protect Shedinja from direct damage. [[Status ailment]]s (like {{status|Poison}}) and [[weather conditions]] will still affect it. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 03:35, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

== Halo ==

Is it me, or in gen III's back sprite, the gap is at the front, and in the gen IV back sprite, the gap is at the back? Shouldn't this belong in the trivia? [[User:FrozenStrategy|FrozenStrategy]] 20:51, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
:The gap is actually in the back in both generations, but perspective makes the Generation III halo look wonky. '''~ [[User:Sol|sol]][[User talk:Sol|ar]][[Special:Contributions/Sol|is]]''' 20:56, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

== How does Shedinja learn egg moves? ==

There are several egg moves listed for Shedinja...but since it is genderless, how can it learn those moves? [[User:DisgruntledGoat|DisgruntledGoat]] 23:25, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
:Evolve a Nincada that has them.--[[User:Cold|Cold]] ([[User talk:Cold|talk]]) 23:49, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

== Question ==

Under the Type effectiveness section, it says that Future Sight and Doom Desire can still hit Shedinja. With said moves now taking type into account, is this still true?--[[User:Cold|Cold]] ([[User talk:Cold|talk]]) 23:24, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
:No, Wonder Guard blocks it now. [[User:Pikiwyn|'''''Pikiwyn''''']] [[User talk:Pikiwyn|<tt>'''''talk'''''</tt>]] 17:23, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

== Shedsturdy ==

Will a shedinja take no damage if it has sturdy as it's ability?
:It ''will'' still take damage; the term "OHKO" specifically refers to four moves (Fissure, Guillotine, Horn Drill, and Sheer Cold), not "moves that KO with one hit". (Also, it's "its". : P) —'''[[User:Hexagon Theory|hexagon]][[User_talk:Hexagon Theory|THEORY]]''' 08:44, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
::In Generation V Sturdy protects from all moves that would OHKO the pokemon not just those four. But Shedinja would still be knocked out by status damage, weather, recoil, spikes and stealth rock. [[User:Pikiwyn|'''''Pikiwyn''''']] [[User talk:Pikiwyn|<tt>'''''talk'''''</tt>]] 08:56, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

== Guardian Angel ==
How does the ability Wonder Guard lend to the concept of a 'Guardian Angel'? I see both have 'Guard' but Wonder Guard refers more to guarding Shedinja, whilst the Angel is a protector of somebody else, yes? [[User:Colintron|Colintron]] 20:11, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
:I agree. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 01:06, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
::Well there is still its halo...--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 01:07, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

== Belly Drum ==

There is a website where you can "hack" certain moves onto a Pokémon that couldn't normally learn it. I was wondering what would happen if you hack Belly Drum on to Shedinja and then try to use it. My guess is that it would fail, but i want to be sure. {{unsigned|Benboy803}}
:You could have Shedinja mimic Belly Drum without hacking but it would fail, same thing for Substitute. [[User:Pikiwyn|'''Pikiwyn''']] [[User talk:Pikiwyn|<tt>'''''talk'''''</tt>]] 21:27, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
::Ok thank you. {{unsigned|Benboy803}}

== Trivia ==

When adding trivia is allowed, shouldn't it be noted that it is (theoretically) possible to make a Shedinja immune to all forms of direct damage? This can be done by done by entering a [[double battle]]/[[triple battle]] with {{p|Staryu}} knowing {{m|Reflect Type}} and a Shedinja knowing {{m|Mimic}}.
*Staryu uses Reflect Type. Shedinja, who is slower than Staryu, uses Mimic on Staryu. The foes do anything but [[faint]] Shedinja
*Staryu switches out into {{p|Sableye}}/{{p|Spiritomb}}. Shedinja uses Mimic-Reflect Type on Spiritomb. The foes do anything but faint Shedinja before it uses Mimic-Reflect Type
*Shedinja is now invincible to any means of direct damage.
And then, Shedinja starts destroying the entire world during the battle. --[[User:Enervation|Enervation]] 00:07, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
:It could be done with any Pokemon. Have a Pokemon use Skill Swap to obtain Wonder Guard, then dothe res. I dont think its notable. '''X'''[[User:Vuvuzela2010|'''Vuvuzela2010''']]'''X''' 08:16, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
::Actually, you can only Skill Swap Wonder Guard in Generation III. However, you can still {{a|Trace}} it and get similar results. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 10:44, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

== 1 HP trivia: composed of assumptions? ==

''"If Shedinja obtains Sturdy in Generation V, it can survive any direct attack"''

Impossible because:
* A Pokemon can only have one ability. It cannot have two. For this to happen you would need both Wonder Guard and Sturdy.
* Trivia implies that this will only be possible if the game introduces two abilities for a single Pokemon.

This is an assumption based on personal thoughts. Its like saying that "if GameFreak introduced this feature, this Pokemon would be the most strongest one in the entire world". Trivia implies that maybe if GameFreak changes its game-engines this is possible. Can Trivia's be composed of assumptions? [[User:Blueknightex|Blueknightex]] 11:15, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
:You're wrong; Shedinja doesn't need Wonder Guard anymore if it gets Sturdy.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|電禅]][[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|Den Zen]]''' 11:22, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
::Also, it is actually possible: change Shedinja's Ability with Simple Beam, Entrainment, or Worry Seed, then Skill Swap Sturdy on. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 11:25, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

::: I interpreted it wrong when I first read the statement. Before Gen V, sturdy only blocks [[One-hit knockout move]]s which is not just 'any' attack. However on Gen V, when a Pokemon is brought from full HP to 0 HP, instead of being KO'd it has 1HP remaining instead. In a way it acts like an auto-[[Endure]] that is immediately in effect when the Pokemon is brought to battle and has a 100% of working :-) [[User:Blueknightex|Blueknightex]] 11:37, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
::::It would help if that trivia entry was a bit more clearer. Maybe you should put what you explained to me on the article? I can't seem to understand before when I first read it. It might help others understand it better. [[User:Blueknightex|Blueknightex]] 11:42, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
:::::Like add to the article what you explained to me here? [[User:Blueknightex|Blueknightex]] 11:52, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

== Pokeball ==

Is a pokeball not required in gen 3 or starting in gen 3?
[[User:Mpcamel1729|^^I^ rides camels… | love 'em. ]] ''([[User talk:Mpcamel1729|T^LK]])'' 00:28, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
:It didn't exist prior to Generation III, so only in Generation III. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 15:41, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

== Struggle ==

If Shedinja can still take damage from Struggle, is it the only Pokémon that will always one-hit KO themselves with it? [[User:Dimenticare|Dimenticare]] ([[User talk:Dimenticare|talk]]) 18:33, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

== Hidden Ability? ==

I noticed that, when shedninja is attacked by a ground type move, that it says both wonder guard and levitate protected him. Would that make Levitate be his hidden ability? --[[User:Kajoman|Kajoman]] ([[User talk:Kajoman|talk]]) 16:07, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
:That's not what Hidden Ability means. Hidden Ability is an Ability only obtainable in special ways, such as [[Hidden Hollow]]s and the {{pkmn|Dream World}}. A Pokémon cannot have two Abilities anyway. And the game does not say anything about Levitate when I use it. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 16:22, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

== Dragon Rage? ==

Is the Drgaon Rage trivia correct? Wonder Guard's page says it doesn't block moves "whose types do not come into play for damage calculation".[[User:Flicky|Fli]][[User talk:Flicky|cky]][[Special:Contributions/Flicky|1991]] 10:50, 24 November 2012 (UTC)

==Hp ups==

I just added a trivia that says HP ups have no effect on Shedinja. I don't know how to create a link to a section of a page, so could someone link it to that part of whatever page it's on? [[User:Aggron989|Aggron989]] ([[User talk:Aggron989|talk]]) 23:05, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

:Just curious: Why did someone remove the aforementioned edit? [[User:Aggron989|Aggron989]] ([[User talk:Aggron989|talk]]) 23:09, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
::Because it's already mentioned that Shedinja doesn't gain HP EVs. That includes defeating wild Pokémon and using certain items or Join Avenue services.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|電禅]][[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|Den Zen]]''' 23:15, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
:::Sorry about that. I can never remember how stat-raising items actually work. I forgot that they just raise the EV count. [[User:Aggron989|Aggron989]] ([[User talk:Aggron989|talk]]) 23:17, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
::::Would this be something to put as an add-on to the fact that Shedinja cannot gain HP EVs? I feel like it's worth mentioning one way or another because it's not always that obvious to other people. [[User:Aggron989|Aggron989]] ([[User talk:Aggron989|talk]]) 00:07, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

==Recent Image Update Needs Undoing==
The image/animation of Shedinja sprite from Emerald needs to be reverted to an older edit, since the one recently upped is all stretched out horizontally out of proportion. See the page for details.
[[User:Exclusiveboi|Exclusiveboi]] ([[User talk:Exclusiveboi|talk]]) 20:18, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
: I agree, and please use the "+" sign on the top of the page when adding a new section to talk pages. [[User:Nepse|Nepse]] ([[User talk:Nepse|talk]]) 20:37, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

== Final Gambit ==

Is the trivia that {{m|Final Gambit}} does 1 damage when used by Shedinja necessary? Based on the description, it seems kind of obvious. The same thing would happen if a totally random Pokémon had 1 HP left. [[User:Aggron989|''AGG'']][[User talk:Aggron989|''RON'']][[Special:Contributions/Aggron989|''989'']] 12:47, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

== Gen VI Move List ==

So, here's a section where we can compile the movelist before editing the main page. Just add any move you know and when it learns it. So far, it appears its low-level moves are the same, but it doesn't learn Mind Reader before Lv.20 anymore. Then again, it's possible that it just copied my Nincada's moveset (Fury Swipes, Harden, Leech Life, Sand Attack), I really don't know how move inheritance works with Sheddy.
Tilde Tilde Tilde Tilde [[User:Omega Metroid|Omega Metroid]] ([[User talk:Omega Metroid|talk]]) 05:15, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

* Starts with Fury Swipes, so it learns it somewhere from Lv.1-20 (added by [[User:Omega Metroid|Omega Metroid]] ([[User talk:Omega Metroid|talk]]) 05:15, 29 October 2013 (UTC))
* Starts with Harden, so it learns it somewhere from Lv.1-20 (added by [[User:Omega Metroid|Omega Metroid]] ([[User talk:Omega Metroid|talk]]) 05:15, 29 October 2013 (UTC))
* Starts with Leech Life, so it learns it somewhere from Lv.1-20 (added by [[User:Omega Metroid|Omega Metroid]] ([[User talk:Omega Metroid|talk]]) 05:15, 29 October 2013 (UTC))
* Starts with Sand Attack, so it learns it somewhere from Lv.1-20 (added by [[User:Omega Metroid|Omega Metroid]] ([[User talk:Omega Metroid|talk]]) 05:15, 29 October 2013 (UTC))

Talk:Shedinja (Pokémon)

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== HP ==

Does the HP of Shedinja ever raise above one with leveling? {{unsigned|Viridis.net@gmail.com}}

Nope. It stays 1 forever. --[[User:Zeta|Zeta]] 19:07, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

The article says the only way to know Shedinja's HP IV is finding out its "brother" Ninjask IV, but couldn't we figure it out by knowing Hidden Power type and power? [[User:Diby esp|Gabriel Rocha (Diby esp)]] 23:49, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
:I think you are confusing {{stat|HP}} and {{m|Hidden Power|HP}}. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 23:52, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
::But isn't {{m|Hidden Power|HP}} determined by IVs such as {{stat|HP}}'s? [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|You enter a poorly lit room...]] 23:57, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
:::{{m|Hidden Power}}'s type and power depend on every stat IV. If you know the Attack, Defense, Special Attack, Special Defense and Speed IV, then knowing our Shedinja's Hidden Power type and power would take us to an obvious conclusion of its HP IV, wouldn't it? [[User:Diby esp|Gabriel Rocha (Diby esp)]] 00:43, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
::::No, it wouldn't. The formula for calculating the strength and type of Hidden Power relies only on the IVs modulo 2 and modulo 4. For example, if you could change a Shedinja's HP IV from 1 to 29, the type and power of Hidden Power would not change. This is because 1 and 29 are congruent modulo 2 and modulo 4. For more information, see the "Number of possible Hidden Powers" section of the Hidden Power calculation article. [[User:Ali 247|Ali 247]] 17:53, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

== Best type? ==

Due to Shedinja's ability, Wonder Guard, is there any combined set of types that would leave it immune to damage (not counting status-affecting moves and weather)? [[User:Casmith 789|Casmith 789]] 15:18, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
:Dark/Ghost and Ghost/Dark, the types of {{p|Spiritomb}} and {{p|Sableye}}, combine to have no weakness (except when Foresight, Odor Sleuth, and/or Miracle Eye are used). Neither of them have Wonder Guard, though. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 03:09, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
::Thanks, after finally catching a Spiritomb I figured this out for myself! [[User:Casmith 789|Casmith 789]] 08:46, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
maybe it would be more usable with the Focus Sash?- ''unsigned comment from [[User:Logicalfighter666|Logicalfighter666]] ([[User talk:Logicalfighter666|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Logicalfighter666|contribs]]){{ #if: | {{{2}}} |}}''
there would be no such thing as a super effective attack.
:::It's completely impossible to be immune from damage, no matter what one does. Even a (hacked, let's say) Dark/Ghost-type with Wonder Guard would be hurt by weather attacks. Since you can't combine Air Lock and Wonder Guard, it is impossible to not take any damage. [[User:LordArceus|'''Lord''']][[User talk:LordArceus|'''Arc''']][[Special:Contributions/LordArceus|'''eus''']] 14:40, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
::::Double Battle. But you are right that it is impossible to be immune from damage: status damage. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Nos hablamos?]] 14:43, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

== Poke ball ==

Ive tried evolving a nincada twice in my diamond game and it only gave me a shedinja the second time after id bought a poke ball, in both instances i had a spare space in my party.
Perhaps you only need a poke ball in diamond/pearl?- ''unsigned comment from [[User:Itxi|Itxi]] ([[User talk:Itxi|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Itxi|contribs]]){{ #if: | {{{2}}} |}}''
:I've always done it with an extra Pokéball. --[[User:DarkfireTaimatsu|DarkfireTaimatsu]] 08:59, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
::I was wondering because in the trivia section it states that one isnt needed. --[[User:Itxi|Itxi]] 09:02, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
:::Then where does the Pokéball in my inventory go once I've obtained Shedinja, hmm? --[[User:DarkfireTaimatsu|DarkfireTaimatsu]] 09:09, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
::::Presicely, I just thought it might be better to start a discussion on it first than just deleting the text. --[[User:Itxi|Itxi]] 09:11, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
:::::You're wrong. I just tested it out. I got a Nincada in my party with an extra slot. I didn't have any Poké balls. When it evolved, I still got a Shedinja. If a Poké ball dissapears when you get a Shedinja then you're being ripped off. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|ケンジ]][[User:Kenji-girl|ガール]] 09:20, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
::::::What game are you playing? I said that i tried it with a pokeball and without and it only works with. This is on Diamond --[[User:Itxi|Itxi]] 09:28, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
:::::::This is Emerald. I don't know. Maybe the mechanics are different in in Diamond. But you definetly don't need a Poké Ball in Emerald.
::::::::Hopefully that edit covers it all :) --[[User:Itxi|Itxi]] 09:36, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::We may want to clarify that the Poké Ball needed must be an actual Poké Ball and not any other type of Ball, eg. Great Ball, Net Ball, or Dusk Ball. [[User:ESeamus|ESeamus]] 07:41, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::: I was bold and edited it. [[User:Lady BlahDeBlah|Lady BlahDeBlah]] 11:29, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::::I think that maybe Eseamus was right, because a friend of mine tried it with a great ball, and it didn't work. [[User talk:Dolphin2|Dolphins]] [[User:Dolphin2|are]] [[Special:Contributions/Dolphin2|awesome]] (and [[Vulpix (Pokémon)|Vulpix]] are too) 19:16, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

== Recent Edit ==

Is the whole thing about the hole in the back being visible needed? I mean, of course it's going to be visible, your looking at it from a behind perspective, AND it is a video game, they don't steal your soul. --[[User:Midnight Celtic|Midnight Celtic]] 18:39, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
:Well, how it appears in the anime would be way more realistic. You're right, if you die in a bloody video for example, or get hurt, you're perfectly fine in real life. So I think that trivia is pretty pointless, it's not like it's a goof. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 11:20, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
::I think it's wrong because you have to look insde the hole, not look at it from afar. the back sprite shows it from afar, whereas if you wanted your soul to be stolen, you would have to put your eye up close to Shedinja... XD. I'll remove it. [[User:Tesh|'''TESH''']][[User_talk:Tesh|'''IGIGAS''']] 11:34, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
:::I removed it weeks ago... somebody must have added it again...[[User:Crystallucario|'''''Crystal''''']] [[User talk:Crystallucario|'''''Lucario''''']] 11:50, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

== Breeding ==

If you breed a Shedinja with a Ditto, will you get a Nincada or another Shedinja? It doesn't say anywhere on the page. Since Shedinja is just Nincada's old exoskeleton brought to life, it would be weird if it could produce a whole new Nincada on its own. - [[User:Buddy Christ|Buddy Christ]] 22:44, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
:Last time I checked Shedinja doesn't have a gender, and I somehow doubt that a Ditto can breed the genderless as it has gender last time I remember. You can prove me wrong, it has been a long time since I last checked. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 22:32, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
::Ditto can breed with the genderless, otherwise we'd have no {{p|Phione}}, no baby {{p|Porygon}}, and a heck of a lot of problems. It's the genderless that can't interbreed. Ditto makes it all possible (unless you're in the {{egg2|No eggs}}). It results in a Nincada, same as if you bred the Ninjask. The only odd thing is... Shedinja is in the {{egg2|Mineral}}... Nincada and Ninjask are in the {{egg|Bug}}... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:47, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
:::Ditto is genderless(random comment).[[User:Kkllnn|Blastoise RULZ]] 21:07, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

== Scrappy or Foresight will onlywork with Mold Breaker ==
As they aren't super-effective even after Foresight (and Fighting wouid even be "resisted"). --[[User:Gorebyss|Gorebyss]] 08:21, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

== Focus Sash ==

what would happen when focus sash is equipped to shedy? [[User:Atomix26|Atomix26]] 19:08, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
:It can withstand one hit that would otherwise faint it. — [[User:Laoris|Laoris]] ([[User_Talk:Laoris|Blah]]) 19:17, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
::Yes, since Focus Sash is only one use. But if you equip Focus Band, then it's possible it could survive for a lot longer. Of course, it's equally possible it'll die on the first hit.--[[User:Celebi96|Celebi96]] 00:40, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

== Gender ==
When I use the name rater, despite being genderless, Shedinja will have a gender when we write a new nickname. Wouldn't that be a nice information for trivia? [[User:Diby esp|Gabriel Rocha (Diby esp)]] 02:19, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
:I have confirmation of this... If someone can determine where the gender comes from this would be great. At the moment I'm picking the same gender as your Nijask. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 03:24, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

== Flail and Reversal ==
I know it's impossible for a Shedinja to have either of these moves without hacking, but supposed one was hacked to have either of these moves... would it have 20 Power because it's at max HP, or would it have 200 power because it only has 1 HP? --[[User:Derian|Derian]] 16:36, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
:That's probably the reason why it's impossible. [[User:Valorum27|Valorum27]] 00:04, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

== Edit request ==

→Pokedex entries
:<nowiki>|heartgolddex={{tt|ハネを　うごかさずに　とびまわる。からだの　なかは　からっぽで　いきを　しない　ふしぎな　ポケモン。|It flies around without moving its wings. A strange Pokémon that doesn't breathe and has an empty body.}}</nowiki>
♥ [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 17:54, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

Small edit requests. First, can you make a ==Pokedex entries== thing over the anime Pokedex entries, and second, can you put a comma in between body and giving? Please and thank you. [[User:Littlmiget123|Littlmiget123]] 17:27, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

== Breeding generation 4 ==

I've managed to teach my nincada/ shedinja toxic by breeding from a dustox in emerald. if someone wants to verify this works of generation 4 games, too and add it to the page it'd be nice.
:Nincada can learn Toxic by TM. TM moves known by the father are passed down to the egg if the egg's species is capable of learning the TM, regardless of whether the father learned it by TM or not. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 20:16, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

==HP Up==
What about with an HP Up?--[[User:Dratini Egg|Dratini Egg]] 20:18, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
:It's HP is ''always'' 1, regardless of IV and EVs. HP Ups just add EVs, which are completely ignored for Shedinja's HP. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 02:43, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

== Shinyness ==

If this is already in the article, i must not have noticed, but...

-Will a shiny Nincada always produce a shiny Shedinja when it evolves?
-If the Nincada is not shiny, is there a chance the Shedinja will be anyway? [[User:Flyingtypefan|Flyingtypefan]] 05:27, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
:To answer your first question, yes. A shiny Nincada will produce a shiny Shedinja. It also answers your second question. No. A normal Nincada will never make a shiny Shedinja. Because of identical values and such. I'm not good with that stuff. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 05:22, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. It may seem kind of obvious, but i was just checking, because if it were different, it might have been trivia worthy. [[User:Flyingtypefan|Flyingtypefan]] 05:27, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

Can't this fact be put under Trivia? {{unsigned|Gideon Kreeter}}
:Why? The Shedinja will always have the same personality value (therefore same IVs, Nature, Shinyness, etc.) as the Nincada it (sort of) evolves from. Just like any other Pokémon. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 04:00, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

== Gen IV Poison? ==

Is Shedinja really immune to Poison damage in Gen IV? [[User:Diachronos|Diachronos]] 18:04, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
:Yes, due to its ability. Why? [[User:Turtwig A|Turtwig's]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A-B-Cs]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 18:05, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
::I think he means Poison status condition. I often use Shedinja and it can be poisoned.--[[User:Dennou Zenshi|でんのう]] ☢ [[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|'''Z'''えんし]] 18:36, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

I don't mean immune to being Poisoned, I mean immune to taking damage after being Poisoned. I was curious because it seems kind of weird for it to be immune to Poison damage without being immune to any other non-super-effective damage. [[User:Diachronos|Diachronos]] 19:20, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
:Actually, Poison hasn't been super effective to Bug since Gen I. And furthermore, Shedinja's Ghost type would made it '''resist''' Poison.--[[User:Dennou Zenshi|でんのう]] ☢ [[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|'''Z'''えんし]] 19:27, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
::{{a|Wonder Guard}} will only protect Shedinja from direct damage. [[Status ailment]]s (like {{status|Poison}}) and [[weather conditions]] will still affect it. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 03:35, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

== Halo ==

Is it me, or in gen III's back sprite, the gap is at the front, and in the gen IV back sprite, the gap is at the back? Shouldn't this belong in the trivia? [[User:FrozenStrategy|FrozenStrategy]] 20:51, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
:The gap is actually in the back in both generations, but perspective makes the Generation III halo look wonky. '''~ [[User:Sol|sol]][[User talk:Sol|ar]][[Special:Contributions/Sol|is]]''' 20:56, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

== How does Shedinja learn egg moves? ==

There are several egg moves listed for Shedinja...but since it is genderless, how can it learn those moves? [[User:DisgruntledGoat|DisgruntledGoat]] 23:25, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
:Evolve a Nincada that has them.--[[User:Cold|Cold]] ([[User talk:Cold|talk]]) 23:49, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

== Question ==

Under the Type effectiveness section, it says that Future Sight and Doom Desire can still hit Shedinja. With said moves now taking type into account, is this still true?--[[User:Cold|Cold]] ([[User talk:Cold|talk]]) 23:24, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
:No, Wonder Guard blocks it now. [[User:Pikiwyn|'''''Pikiwyn''''']] [[User talk:Pikiwyn|<tt>'''''talk'''''</tt>]] 17:23, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

== Shedsturdy ==

Will a shedinja take no damage if it has sturdy as it's ability?
:It ''will'' still take damage; the term "OHKO" specifically refers to four moves (Fissure, Guillotine, Horn Drill, and Sheer Cold), not "moves that KO with one hit". (Also, it's "its". : P) —'''[[User:Hexagon Theory|hexagon]][[User_talk:Hexagon Theory|THEORY]]''' 08:44, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
::In Generation V Sturdy protects from all moves that would OHKO the pokemon not just those four. But Shedinja would still be knocked out by status damage, weather, recoil, spikes and stealth rock. [[User:Pikiwyn|'''''Pikiwyn''''']] [[User talk:Pikiwyn|<tt>'''''talk'''''</tt>]] 08:56, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

== Guardian Angel ==
How does the ability Wonder Guard lend to the concept of a 'Guardian Angel'? I see both have 'Guard' but Wonder Guard refers more to guarding Shedinja, whilst the Angel is a protector of somebody else, yes? [[User:Colintron|Colintron]] 20:11, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
:I agree. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 01:06, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
::Well there is still its halo...--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 01:07, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

== Belly Drum ==

There is a website where you can "hack" certain moves onto a Pokémon that couldn't normally learn it. I was wondering what would happen if you hack Belly Drum on to Shedinja and then try to use it. My guess is that it would fail, but i want to be sure. {{unsigned|Benboy803}}
:You could have Shedinja mimic Belly Drum without hacking but it would fail, same thing for Substitute. [[User:Pikiwyn|'''Pikiwyn''']] [[User talk:Pikiwyn|<tt>'''''talk'''''</tt>]] 21:27, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
::Ok thank you. {{unsigned|Benboy803}}

== Trivia ==

When adding trivia is allowed, shouldn't it be noted that it is (theoretically) possible to make a Shedinja immune to all forms of direct damage? This can be done by done by entering a [[double battle]]/[[triple battle]] with {{p|Staryu}} knowing {{m|Reflect Type}} and a Shedinja knowing {{m|Mimic}}.
*Staryu uses Reflect Type. Shedinja, who is slower than Staryu, uses Mimic on Staryu. The foes do anything but [[faint]] Shedinja
*Staryu switches out into {{p|Sableye}}/{{p|Spiritomb}}. Shedinja uses Mimic-Reflect Type on Spiritomb. The foes do anything but faint Shedinja before it uses Mimic-Reflect Type
*Shedinja is now invincible to any means of direct damage.
And then, Shedinja starts destroying the entire world during the battle. --[[User:Enervation|Enervation]] 00:07, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
:It could be done with any Pokemon. Have a Pokemon use Skill Swap to obtain Wonder Guard, then dothe res. I dont think its notable. '''X'''[[User:Vuvuzela2010|'''Vuvuzela2010''']]'''X''' 08:16, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
::Actually, you can only Skill Swap Wonder Guard in Generation III. However, you can still {{a|Trace}} it and get similar results. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 10:44, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

== 1 HP trivia: composed of assumptions? ==

''"If Shedinja obtains Sturdy in Generation V, it can survive any direct attack"''

Impossible because:
* A Pokemon can only have one ability. It cannot have two. For this to happen you would need both Wonder Guard and Sturdy.
* Trivia implies that this will only be possible if the game introduces two abilities for a single Pokemon.

This is an assumption based on personal thoughts. Its like saying that "if GameFreak introduced this feature, this Pokemon would be the most strongest one in the entire world". Trivia implies that maybe if GameFreak changes its game-engines this is possible. Can Trivia's be composed of assumptions? [[User:Blueknightex|Blueknightex]] 11:15, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
:You're wrong; Shedinja doesn't need Wonder Guard anymore if it gets Sturdy.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|電禅]][[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|Den Zen]]''' 11:22, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
::Also, it is actually possible: change Shedinja's Ability with Simple Beam, Entrainment, or Worry Seed, then Skill Swap Sturdy on. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 11:25, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

::: I interpreted it wrong when I first read the statement. Before Gen V, sturdy only blocks [[One-hit knockout move]]s which is not just 'any' attack. However on Gen V, when a Pokemon is brought from full HP to 0 HP, instead of being KO'd it has 1HP remaining instead. In a way it acts like an auto-[[Endure]] that is immediately in effect when the Pokemon is brought to battle and has a 100% of working :-) [[User:Blueknightex|Blueknightex]] 11:37, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
::::It would help if that trivia entry was a bit more clearer. Maybe you should put what you explained to me on the article? I can't seem to understand before when I first read it. It might help others understand it better. [[User:Blueknightex|Blueknightex]] 11:42, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
:::::Like add to the article what you explained to me here? [[User:Blueknightex|Blueknightex]] 11:52, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

== Pokeball ==

Is a pokeball not required in gen 3 or starting in gen 3?
[[User:Mpcamel1729|^^I^ rides camels… | love 'em. ]] ''([[User talk:Mpcamel1729|T^LK]])'' 00:28, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
:It didn't exist prior to Generation III, so only in Generation III. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 15:41, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

== Struggle ==

If Shedinja can still take damage from Struggle, is it the only Pokémon that will always one-hit KO themselves with it? [[User:Dimenticare|Dimenticare]] ([[User talk:Dimenticare|talk]]) 18:33, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

== Hidden Ability? ==

I noticed that, when shedninja is attacked by a ground type move, that it says both wonder guard and levitate protected him. Would that make Levitate be his hidden ability? --[[User:Kajoman|Kajoman]] ([[User talk:Kajoman|talk]]) 16:07, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
:That's not what Hidden Ability means. Hidden Ability is an Ability only obtainable in special ways, such as [[Hidden Hollow]]s and the {{pkmn|Dream World}}. A Pokémon cannot have two Abilities anyway. And the game does not say anything about Levitate when I use it. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 16:22, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

== Dragon Rage? ==

Is the Drgaon Rage trivia correct? Wonder Guard's page says it doesn't block moves "whose types do not come into play for damage calculation".[[User:Flicky|Fli]][[User talk:Flicky|cky]][[Special:Contributions/Flicky|1991]] 10:50, 24 November 2012 (UTC)

==Hp ups==

I just added a trivia that says HP ups have no effect on Shedinja. I don't know how to create a link to a section of a page, so could someone link it to that part of whatever page it's on? [[User:Aggron989|Aggron989]] ([[User talk:Aggron989|talk]]) 23:05, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

:Just curious: Why did someone remove the aforementioned edit? [[User:Aggron989|Aggron989]] ([[User talk:Aggron989|talk]]) 23:09, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
::Because it's already mentioned that Shedinja doesn't gain HP EVs. That includes defeating wild Pokémon and using certain items or Join Avenue services.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|電禅]][[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|Den Zen]]''' 23:15, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
:::Sorry about that. I can never remember how stat-raising items actually work. I forgot that they just raise the EV count. [[User:Aggron989|Aggron989]] ([[User talk:Aggron989|talk]]) 23:17, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
::::Would this be something to put as an add-on to the fact that Shedinja cannot gain HP EVs? I feel like it's worth mentioning one way or another because it's not always that obvious to other people. [[User:Aggron989|Aggron989]] ([[User talk:Aggron989|talk]]) 00:07, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

==Recent Image Update Needs Undoing==
The image/animation of Shedinja sprite from Emerald needs to be reverted to an older edit, since the one recently upped is all stretched out horizontally out of proportion. See the page for details.
[[User:Exclusiveboi|Exclusiveboi]] ([[User talk:Exclusiveboi|talk]]) 20:18, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
: I agree, and please use the "+" sign on the top of the page when adding a new section to talk pages. [[User:Nepse|Nepse]] ([[User talk:Nepse|talk]]) 20:37, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

== Final Gambit ==

Is the trivia that {{m|Final Gambit}} does 1 damage when used by Shedinja necessary? Based on the description, it seems kind of obvious. The same thing would happen if a totally random Pokémon had 1 HP left. [[User:Aggron989|''AGG'']][[User talk:Aggron989|''RON'']][[Special:Contributions/Aggron989|''989'']] 12:47, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

== Gen VI Move List ==

So, here's a section where we can compile the movelist before editing the main page. Just add any move you know and when it learns it. So far, it appears its low-level moves are the same, but it doesn't learn Mind Reader before Lv.20 anymore.
Tilde Tilde Tilde Tilde [[User:Omega Metroid|Omega Metroid]] ([[User talk:Omega Metroid|talk]]) 05:15, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

* Starts with Fury Swipes, so it learns it somewhere from Lv.1-20 (added by [[User:Omega Metroid|Omega Metroid]] ([[User talk:Omega Metroid|talk]]) 05:15, 29 October 2013 (UTC))
* Starts with Harden, so it learns it somewhere from Lv.1-20 (added by [[User:Omega Metroid|Omega Metroid]] ([[User talk:Omega Metroid|talk]]) 05:15, 29 October 2013 (UTC))
* Starts with Leech Life, so it learns it somewhere from Lv.1-20 (added by [[User:Omega Metroid|Omega Metroid]] ([[User talk:Omega Metroid|talk]]) 05:15, 29 October 2013 (UTC))
* Starts with Sand Attack, so it learns it somewhere from Lv.1-20 (added by [[User:Omega Metroid|Omega Metroid]] ([[User talk:Omega Metroid|talk]]) 05:15, 29 October 2013 (UTC))

Talk:Kirlia (Pokémon)

2013-10-28T18:37:33Z

Omega Metroid: /* Gen VI Move List */

=question=
I'm newish here, but it doesn't make much sense to me that while the gender determines how it can evolve, but under gender differences, it says "none". [[User:Silvermoonstar3|Silvermoonstar3]] 01:06, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
:What that means like if male Kirlia had like a skirt or so, while females had a dress. That's what that is. Not something like that. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psychic''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]''''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 01:08, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
::(EC)That section relates to physical differences, not evolutionary differences. You raise a fair point though, and I'll add somewhat of a disclaimer. Thanks! — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 01:09, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
=Gardevoir=
Shouldn't Gardevoir's tpe be changed on the evolution line?--[[User:Togekiss4ever|Togekiss4ever]] ([[User talk:Togekiss4ever|talk]]) 06:34, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

== Gen VI Move List ==

Not sure how you're doing it for everyone other Pokémon, so I figured I'd make a section where everyone can list any moves they know that it learns, and what level it learns them at, to help whoever makes the new move list entry for the main page.
Tilde Tilde Tilde Tilde [[User:Omega Metroid|Omega Metroid]] ([[User talk:Omega Metroid|talk]]) 18:36, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

So, without further adieu, here we go:
* Lv. 25: [[Heal Pulse]]. (Added by [[User:Omega Metroid|Omega Metroid]] ([[User talk:Omega Metroid|talk]]) 18:36, 28 October 2013 (UTC))

Talk:Kirlia (Pokémon)

2013-10-28T18:36:45Z

Omega Metroid: /* Gen VI Move List */ new section

=question=
I'm newish here, but it doesn't make much sense to me that while the gender determines how it can evolve, but under gender differences, it says "none". [[User:Silvermoonstar3|Silvermoonstar3]] 01:06, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
:What that means like if male Kirlia had like a skirt or so, while females had a dress. That's what that is. Not something like that. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psychic''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]''''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 01:08, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
::(EC)That section relates to physical differences, not evolutionary differences. You raise a fair point though, and I'll add somewhat of a disclaimer. Thanks! — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 01:09, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
=Gardevoir=
Shouldn't Gardevoir's tpe be changed on the evolution line?--[[User:Togekiss4ever|Togekiss4ever]] ([[User talk:Togekiss4ever|talk]]) 06:34, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

== Gen VI Move List ==

Not sure how you're doing it for everyone else, so I figured I'd make a section where everyone can list any moves they know that it learns, and what level it learns them at, to help whoever makes the new move list entry for the main page.
Tilde Tilde Tilde Tilde [[User:Omega Metroid|Omega Metroid]] ([[User talk:Omega Metroid|talk]]) 18:36, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

So, without further adieu, here we go:
* Lv. 25: [[Heal Pulse]]. (Added by [[User:Omega Metroid|Omega Metroid]] ([[User talk:Omega Metroid|talk]]) 18:36, 28 October 2013 (UTC))

Talk:Heal Pulse (move)

2013-10-28T18:29:05Z

Omega Metroid: Created page with "Just leveled up my Kirlia, it still learns the move at Lv.25, just like in Gen V. Haven't tested any of the others yet, though. Tilde Tilde Tilde Tilde ~~~~"

Just leveled up my Kirlia, it still learns the move at Lv.25, just like in Gen V. Haven't tested any of the others yet, though.
Tilde Tilde Tilde Tilde [[User:Omega Metroid|Omega Metroid]] ([[User talk:Omega Metroid|talk]]) 18:29, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

Heal Pulse (move)

2013-10-28T18:25:46Z

Omega Metroid: /* By leveling up */

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jname=いやしのはどう |
jtrans=Healing Wave |
jtranslit=Iyashi no Hadō|
gameimage=Heal Pulse.png|
type=Psychic |
damagecategory=Status |
basepp=10 |
maxpp=16 |
power=— |
accuracy=— |
bdesc=|
gen=V |
pokefordex=Heal%20Pulse|
touches=no |
protect=yes |
magiccoat=yes |
snatch=no |
brightpowder=no |
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flag7=yes |
flag8=no |
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target=any |
footnotes= }}
'''Heal Pulse''' (Japanese: '''いやしのはどう''' ''Healing Wave'') is a non-damaging {{type|Psychic}} [[move]] introduced in [[Generation V]].

==Effect==
Heal Pulse restores up to 50% of the target's current {{stat|HP}}. It will fail if the target's HP stat is already full or if it is behind a Substitute. Heal Pulse can hit non-adjacent targets in [[Triple Battle]]s.

==Description==
{{movedesc|psychic}}
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrev3|BWB2W2}}|The user emits a healing pulse which restores the target's HP by up to half of its max HP.}}
|}
|}{{left clear}}

==Learnset==
===By [[Level|leveling up]]===
{{Moveheader/Level|Psychic|5}}
{{Moveentry/Level5|079|Slowpoke|2|Water|Psychic|58}}
{{Moveentry/Level5|080|Slowbro|2|Water|Psychic|68}}
{{Moveentry/Level5|113|Chansey|1|Normal|Normal|38}}
{{Moveentry/Level5|199|Slowking|2|Water|Psychic|58}}
{{Moveentry/Level5|242|Blissey|1|Normal|Normal|38}}
{{Moveentry/Level5|280|Ralts|1|Psychic|Psychic|23}}
{{Moveentry/Level5|281|Kirlia|1|Psychic|Psychic|25|25}}
{{Moveentry/Level5|282|Gardevoir|1|Psychic|Psychic|25}}
{{Moveentry/Level5|358|Chimecho|1|Psychic|Psychic|49}}
{{Moveentry/Level5|380|Latias|2|Dragon|Psychic|65}}
{{Moveentry/Level5|381|Latios|2|Dragon|Psychic|65}}
{{Moveentry/Level5|448|Lucario|2|Fighting|Steel|42}}
{{Moveentry/Level5|475|Gallade|2|Psychic|Fighting|25}}
{{Moveentry/Level5|531|Audino|1|Normal|Normal|35}}
{{Moveentry/Level5|594|Alomomola|1|Water|Water|17}}
{{Movefooter|Psychic|5}}

===By {{pkmn|breeding}}===
{{Moveheader/Breed|Psychic|5}}
{{Moveentry/Breed5|152|Chikorita|1|Grass|Grass|{{MSP|079|Slowpoke}}{{MSP|080|Slowbro}}{{MSP|199|Slowking}}}}
{{Moveentry/Breed5|370|Luvdisc|1|Water|Water|{{MSP|594|Alomomola}}}}
{{Moveentry/Breed5|420|Cherubi|1|Grass|Grass|{{MSP|531|Audino}}}}
{{Movefooter|Psychic|5}}

===By {{pkmn2|event}}===
====[[Generation V]]====
{{Learnlistspecial|Psychic}}
{{Moveentryspecial|420|Cherubi|1|Grass|Grass|{{pkmn|Dream World}} - {{dwa|Dream Park}}}}
{{Moveentryspecial|150|Mewtwo|1|Psychic|Psychic|{{DL|List of local Japanese event Pokémon distributions in Generation V|Pokémon Hills Mewtwo}}}}
{{Learnlist/footer}}

==In the anime==
{{moveanime|type=psychic|gen=The user unleashes a healing pulse of energy.|image1=Nurse Joy Audino Heal Pulse.png|image1p=Audino}}
{{movep|type=psychic|ms=531|pkmn=Audino|method=Audino puts its hands in front of its body and a light pink ball of energy appears in between them. Audino then opens its arms and the orb breaks apart into multiple light pink sparkles, releasing waves of light pink energy with light pink sparkles in it that expand outward, causing the opponent to relax.}}
{{movebtm|type=psychic|user=Nurse Joy's Audino|startcode=BW022|startname=A Venipede Stampede!|notes=Debut}}

==Trivia==
* Along with {{m|Present}} and {{m|Pain Split}}, Heal Pulse is one of three moves that can heal the opponent.
** However, this is the only one of the three that is guaranteed to heal the opponent.

==In other languages==
{{Langtable|color={{psychic color}}|bordercolor={{psychic color dark}}
|zh_cmn=治癒波動 ''{{tt|Zhìyù Bōdòng|Healing Wave}}''
|fr_eu=Vibra Soin
|de=Heilwoge
|pt_br=Pulsação de Cura
|id=Gelombang Menenangkan
|it=Ondasana
|ko=치유파동 ''Chiyu Padong''
|es_la=Pulso Sanador
|es_eu=Pulso Cura}}
{{-}}

{{Project Moves and Abilities notice}}

[[Category:Aura and pulse moves]]

[[de:Heilwoge]]
[[es:Pulso Cura]]
[[fr:Vibra Soin]]
[[it:Ondasana (mossa)]]
[[ja:いやしのはどう]]
[[zh:治愈波动（技能）]]

Experience

2012-12-12T20:52:39Z

Omega Metroid: /* Relation to level */

{{redirect|Slow|the move whose Japanese name means Slow|Curse (move)}}
[[File:ExpGraphLv100.png|300px|thumb|right|A graph of the experience required for Pokémon to level up, color-coded by experience types. Erratic is '''black''', Fast is '''{{color|008000|green}}''', Medium Fast is '''{{color|FFD700|yellow}}''', Medium Slow is '''{{color|660099|purple}}''', Slow is '''{{color|774400|brown}}''', and Fluctuating is '''{{color|0000FF|blue}}'''.]]
[[File:ExpGraphLv50.png|300px|thumb|right|A graph only to level 50 for the experience required for level up. Colors are the same as above.]]

The amount of '''experience''' an individual Pokémon has is an indication of how much it has battled. In the games, it is quantified as '''experience points''', which a Pokémon can gain in {{pkmn|battle}} by defeating an opponent without fainting first. After a certain amount of experience points have been gained, a Pokémon will grow a [[level]], with each subsequent level requiring more experience to gain, all the way up to level 100, where a Pokémon will no longer gain experience.

==In the main series==
In the [[main series]] games, experience is normally gained by all Pokémon who have been sent out against an opponent's Pokémon, divided evenly among them. Experience is gained upon the opponent Pokémon [[fainting]], and its amount is calculated as a function of the fainted Pokémon's level as well as species. [[Experience-affecting item|Certain items]] can affect the distribution and amount of experience gained, as can other conditions, such as whether or not the Pokémon was caught by another person or in another language of the game.

===Relation to level===
[[File:ExpToLevelCubed.png|thumb|right|300px|A graph of the ratio of the cumulative experience required to reach a certain level, to that level's numeral cubed]]

The amount of experience points a Pokémon has is tied directly to its level. Though the amount varies depending on species, always remaining consistent throughout an [[evolutionary family]], a given amount of experience points will always set a Pokémon at the corresponding level. [[Wild Pokémon]] of any level will always have the base amount of experience required to reach that level when caught, as will Pokémon hatched from Eggs.

All Pokémon fall into one of six experience groups, four of which were introduced in [[Generation I]] and two of which were introduced in [[Generation III]]. The main difference between these experience groups is the amount of experience points required to reach level 100, and thus, the amount required to reach each level. All those introduced in Generation I are only {{wp|polynomial}} {{wp|Function (mathematics)|functions}} of the level, while the two introduced in Generation III operate as {{wp|piecewise}} functions, changing the equation depending on the level range.

All six functions are {{wp|cubic}} functions of the level, but Erratic and Fluctuating are designed to have a constantly changing multiplier of this cube. Erratic has this multiplier go from high (2.0) to low (0.6), while Fluctuating has this multiplier go from low (0.48) to high (1.64).

The cubic nature of these formulas implies that the amount of experience points required to go from one level to the next is a {{wp|quadratic}} function.

Though the various experience groups' level-up rates can be calculated using an equation, a {{wp|lookup table}} is used in the games after Generation II, to prevent game slowdown and a glitch associated with the Medium Slow formula.

In [[Generation V]] the amount of experience gained is dependent on both Pokémon's levels: the lower the victor's level is compared to the defeated Pokémon, the more experience points the victor will gain.

====Erratic====
[[File:Expcalc erratic.png|thumb|right|390px|The equation for the Erratic experience group. At levels 50, 68, and 98, both formulas return equal values.]]
The Erratic experience group, one of the two groups introduced in Generation III, features the lowest level 100 value for experience, at only 600,000 points. Aside from {{p|Shieldon}}, {{p|Cranidos}}, and {{p|Finneon}}'s families, all Pokémon in this experience group were introduced in Generation III as well, with most of them being {{t|Bug}} or {{t|Water}} types.

Receiving its name due to the highly erratic experience point requirement to reach the next level from level 68 to level 98, Pokémon in this group level up rather slowly in their lower levels, requiring the most experience to grow from level 1 to level 10 (1800 as compared to 1250 for Slow, the next highest requirement), and increase the rate of their growth at higher levels, requiring the least experience to grow from level 90 to level 100 (108654 points as compared to 216800 for Fast, the next lowest requirement).

Due to the erraticness of this function, it actually takes fewer experience points to go from level 99 to 100 than it does to go from level 69 to 70.

For a list of all Pokémon in this group, see {{cat|Pokémon in the Erratic experience group}}.



====Fast====
[[File:Expcalc fast.png|thumb|right|134px|The equation for the Fast experience group]]
The Fast experience group is one of the four experience groups introduced in Generation I, with 800,000 experience points making for a level 100 Pokémon. Many common {{type|Normal}} Pokémon are in this group, among them the {{p|Chansey}}, {{p|Clefairy}}, and {{p|Jigglypuff}} families.

For a list of all Pokémon in this group, see {{cat|Pokémon in the Fast experience group}}.

====Medium Fast====
[[File:Expcalc mfast.png|thumb|right|117px|The equation for the Medium Fast experience group]]
Among all Pokémon, the most plentiful experience group is the Medium Fast group, which was also introduced in Generation I. Requiring Pokémon to have an even 1,000,000 experience points to be at level 100, it is by far the most average of the experience groups, and the one with the simplest equation: to be at a given level, any Pokémon in this group requires experience equal to that level {{wp|cube (algebra)|cubed}}. This group is also often called "cubic", due to its function being a simple cube of the level.

This experience group actually grows more slowly than the Medium Slow group up until about level 68 (level 47, if considering amount of experience required to reach the next level).

For a list of all Pokémon in this group, see {{cat|Pokémon in the Medium Fast experience group}}.

====Medium Slow====
[[File:Expcalc mslow.png|thumb|right|358px|The equation for the Medium Slow experience group]]
The Medium Slow experience group, like the Medium Fast group, accounts for many Pokémon, containing the second largest amount of them. All normal [[starter Pokémon]] are in this group, as are several smaller legendaries, such as {{p|Mew}} and {{p|Shaymin}}. Requiring 1,059,860 experience points for a Pokémon to reach level 100, it is the only experience group whose level 100 experience is not evenly divisible by 10,000.

The {{wp|inflection point}} for this polynomial function is actually at level 4, not level 0. Thus, it actually takes more experience points to go from level 2 to 3 than it does to go from 4 to 5. In Generations I and II, this mislocation of the inflection point causes the experience underflow glitch.

The starter Pokémon are all at level 5 at the start, and are all in the Medium Slow group, so it appears that the Medium Slow group's experience formula was calculated with the starter Pokémon in mind. It is the only function to do so - all the other functions, being simple multiples of the cube of the level, have inflection points at Level 0, meaning that the number of experience points required to advance one level will always increase as the level increases because the level is positive. 

For a list of all Pokémon in this group, see {{cat|Pokémon in the Medium Slow experience group}}.

====Slow====
[[File:Expcalc slow.png|thumb|right|134px|The equation for the Slow experience group.]]
The final of the four Generation I experience groups, the Slow group features the highest amount of experience required for a Pokémon to reach level 100 in Generations I and II, and the second highest amount since then. Containing many rare, powerful, and [[legendary Pokémon]], Pokémon in this group are typically very hard to raise. At level 100, a Pokémon in this experience group will have 1,250,000 experience points.

For a list of all Pokémon in this group, see {{cat|Pokémon in the Slow experience group}}.

====Fluctuating====
[[File:Expcalc fluctuating.png|thumb|right|422px|The equation for the Fluctuating experience group. At levels 15 and 36, both formulas return equal values.]]
The second experience group introduced in Generation III, and a direct opposite to the Erratic group, the Fluctuating experience group contains the Pokémon which grow the slowest of all, reaching level 100 with a whopping 1,640,000 experience points. It is also, unsurprisingly, the smallest of the experience groups, containing only 14 species. Pokémon within this group require the least amount of experience to grow from level 1, needing only 540 points to reach level 10, as compared to 560 for Medium Slow, the next lowest requirement. They also require the most experience points to go from level 90 to 100 - 517340 as compared to 338750 for Slow, the next highest. Like the Erratic function, the Fluctuating group's level-up equation is calculated in a {{wp|piecewise}} fashion.

Also like the Erratic experience group, the Fluctuating group gets its name from the wildly fluctuating requirement for each level to go to the next level, from Level 36 to Level 100.

For a list of all Pokémon in this group, see {{cat|Pokémon in the Fluctuating experience group}}.

===Table===
Below is a table. On the left side of the level is the minimum number of experience points required for a Pokémon to be at that level, and the amount of experience points a Pokémon of that level will have when caught from the wild. On the right is the number of experience points required to advance from the respective level to the next level.

{| class="expandable"
|- class="expandable"
|  
|-
|
{| class="roundy" align="left" style="border: 2px solid #{{soulsilver color dark}}; background: #{{soulsilver color}}; margin-right: 5px; margin-bottom: 5px;"
|- align="center"
| class="roundytl" colspan="6" align="center" | Total Experience
|
| class="roundytr" colspan="6" align="center" | To Next Level
|-
! width="60px" style="background: #000000; color:#FFFFFF;" | Erratic
! width="60px" style="background: #008000; color:#FFFFFF;" | Fast
! width="60px" style="background: #FFFF00; color:#000000;" | Medium Fast
! width="60px" style="background: #660099; color:#FFFFFF;" | Medium Slow
! width="60px" style="background: #774400; color:#FFFFFF;" | Slow
! width="60px" style="background: #0000FF; color:#FFFFFF;" | Fluctu- ating
! width="40px" style="background: #FFFFFF; color:#000000;" | Level
! width="60px" style="background: #000000; color:#FFFFFF;" | Erratic
! width="60px" style="background: #008000; color:#FFFFFF;" | Fast
! width="60px" style="background: #FFFF00; color:#000000;" | Medium Fast
! width="60px" style="background: #660099; color:#FFFFFF;" | Medium Slow
! width="60px" style="background: #774400; color:#FFFFFF;" | Slow
! width="60px" style="background: #0000FF; color:#FFFFFF;" | Fluctu- ating
|-
| align="right" style="background: #595959; color:#FFFFFF;" | 0
| align="right" style="background: #59ac59; color:#FFFFFF;" | 0
| align="right" style="background: #ffff59; color:#000000;" | 0
| align="right" style="background: #9b59bc; color:#FFFFFF;" | 0
| align="right" style="background: #a68559; color:#FFFFFF;" | 0
| align="right" style="background: #5959ff; color:#FFFFFF;" | 0
| align="center" style="background: #ffffff; color:#000000;" | 1
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| align="left" style="background: #59ac59; color:#FFFFFF;" | 6
| align="left" style="background: #ffff59; color:#000000;" | 8
| align="left" style="background: #9b59bc; color:#FFFFFF;" | 9
| align="left" style="background: #a68559; color:#FFFFFF;" | 10
| align="left" style="background: #5959ff; color:#FFFFFF;" | 4
|-
| align="right" style="background: #595959; color:#FFFFFF;" | 15
| align="right" style="background: #59ac59; color:#FFFFFF;" | 6
| align="right" style="background: #ffff59; color:#000000;" | 8
| align="right" style="background: #9b59bc; color:#FFFFFF;" | 9
| align="right" style="background: #a68559; color:#FFFFFF;" | 10
| align="right" style="background: #5959ff; color:#FFFFFF;" | 4
| align="center" style="background: #ffffff; color:#000000;" | 2
| align="left" style="background: #595959; color:#FFFFFF;" | 37
| align="left" style="background: #59ac59; color:#FFFFFF;" | 15
| align="left" style="background: #ffff59; color:#000000;" | 19
| align="left" style="background: #9b59bc; color:#FFFFFF;" | 48
| align="left" style="background: #a68559; color:#FFFFFF;" | 23
| align="left" style="background: #5959ff; color:#FFFFFF;" | 9
|-
| align="right" style="background: #595959; color:#FFFFFF;" | 52
| align="right" style="background: #59ac59; color:#FFFFFF;" | 21
| align="right" style="background: #ffff59; color:#000000;" | 27
| align="right" style="background: #9b59bc; color:#FFFFFF;" | 57
| align="right" style="background: #a68559; color:#FFFFFF;" | 33
| align="right" style="background: #5959ff; color:#FFFFFF;" | 13
| align="center" style="background: #ffffff; color:#000000;" | 3
| align="left" style="background: #595959; color:#FFFFFF;" | 70
| align="left" style="background: #59ac59; color:#FFFFFF;" | 30
| align="left" style="background: #ffff59; color:#000000;" | 37
| align="left" style="background: #9b59bc; color:#FFFFFF;" | 39
| align="left" style="background: #a68559; color:#FFFFFF;" | 47
| align="left" style="background: #5959ff; color:#FFFFFF;" | 19
|-
| align="right" style="background: #595959; color:#FFFFFF;" | 122
| align="right" style="background: #59ac59; color:#FFFFFF;" | 51
| align="right" style="background: #ffff59; color:#000000;" | 64
| align="right" style="background: #9b59bc; color:#FFFFFF;" | 96
| align="right" style="background: #a68559; color:#FFFFFF;" | 80
| align="right" style="background: #5959ff; color:#FFFFFF;" | 32
| align="center" style="background: #ffffff; color:#000000;" | 4
| align="left" style="background: #595959; color:#FFFFFF;" | 115
| align="left" style="background: #59ac59; color:#FFFFFF;" | 49
| align="left" style="background: #ffff59; color:#000000;" | 61
| align="left" style="background: #9b59bc; color:#FFFFFF;" | 39
| align="left" style="background: #a68559; color:#FFFFFF;" | 76
| align="left" style="background: #5959ff; color:#FFFFFF;" | 33
|-
| align="right" style="background: #595959; color:#FFFFFF;" | 237
| align="right" style="background: #59ac59; color:#FFFFFF;" | 100
| align="right" style="background: #ffff59; color:#000000;" | 125
| align="right" style="background: #9b59bc; color:#FFFFFF;" | 135
| align="right" style="background: #a68559; color:#FFFFFF;" | 156
| align="right" style="background: #5959ff; color:#FFFFFF;" | 65
| align="center" style="background: #ffffff; color:#000000;" | 5
| align="left" style="background: #595959; color:#FFFFFF;" | 169
| align="left" style="background: #59ac59; color:#FFFFFF;" | 72
| align="left" style="background: #ffff59; color:#000000;" | 91
| align="left" style="background: #9b59bc; color:#FFFFFF;" | 44
| align="left" style="background: #a68559; color:#FFFFFF;" | 114
| align="left" style="background: #5959ff; color:#FFFFFF;" | 47
|-
| align="right" style="background: #595959; color:#FFFFFF;" | 406
| align="right" style="background: #59ac59; color:#FFFFFF;" | 172
| align="right" style="background: #ffff59; color:#000000;" | 216
| align="right" style="background: #9b59bc; color:#FFFFFF;" | 179
| align="right" style="background: #a68559; color:#FFFFFF;" | 270
| align="right" style="background: #5959ff; color:#FFFFFF;" | 112
| align="center" style="background: #ffffff; color:#000000;" | 6
| align="left" style="background: #595959; color:#FFFFFF;" | 231
| align="left" style="background: #59ac59; color:#FFFFFF;" | 102
| align="left" style="background: #ffff59; color:#000000;" | 127
| align="left" style="background: #9b59bc; color:#FFFFFF;" | 57
| align="left" style="background: #a68559; color:#FFFFFF;" | 158
| align="left" style="background: #5959ff; color:#FFFFFF;" | 66
|-
| align="right" style="background: #595959; color:#FFFFFF;" | 637
| align="right" style="background: #59ac59; color:#FFFFFF;" | 274
| align="right" style="background: #ffff59; color:#000000;" | 343
| align="right" style="background: #9b59bc; color:#FFFFFF;" | 236
| align="right" style="background: #a68559; color:#FFFFFF;" | 428
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===Experience gain in battle===

Gaining experience in battle depends on the level and species of the Pokémon that was defeated in battle. The higher the level a Pokémon is, the more experience points it yields. In [[Generation V]] the amount of experience gained is dependent on both Pokémon's levels: the higher the defeated opponent's level is compared to the user, the more experience points the user will gain.

Several other things can affect the gain of experience. If more than one Pokémon is sent into battle, the gained experience calculated by the above calculation will be divided by how many were sent into battle. Note that in Generation V the Pokémon's own level is taken into account ''after'' dividing experience, meaning lower level Pokémon will get more experience than higher level Pokémon.

The [[Lucky Egg]], [[Exp. All]] and [[Exp. Share]] can also further affect the gain of experience. If the Exp. All is in the [[bag]] in [[Generation I]], all members of the player's party will gain experience based on how many there are, as if all had been sent into battle. The Exp. Share and Lucky Egg, however, activate if held, with the Lucky Egg further multiplying experience gained by 1.5×, and the Exp. Share automatically giving half of the experience from a battle to the holder, leaving the rest to be distributed among those that ''actually'' participated (this can be exploited to give a Pokémon 3/4 of the battle's experience).

Finally, in Generation V the [[Entralink|Pass Powers]] Exp. Point Power affects the amount of experience earned if it is active, by between 0.5× and 2× depending on the strength of the power.

Pokémon that faint do not gain any experience; however, if they are revived before the Pokémon they fought is defeated or switches out, they will still gain experience.

===Gain formula===
[[File:ExpGainFormula.png|frame|right|Formula for experience gain from battle (Generation I to IV)]]
[[File:Delta exp gen5.png|frame|right|Formula for experience gain from battle (Generation V)]]
Unlike the great variation in formulas among the six experience groups, there is only a single formula used to determine how much experience a Pokémon will gain from battle, to the right. In this formula:
*''a'' is equal to 1 if the fainted Pokémon is wild, and 1.5 if the fainted Pokémon is owned by a Trainer.
*''t'' is equal to 1 if the winning Pokémon's OT is its current owner, 1.5 if the Pokémon was gained in a domestic trade, and (from Generation IV onwards) 1.7 if the Pokémon was gained in an international trade.
*''b'' is the base experience yield of the fainted Pokémon's species, listed [[List of Pokémon by effort value yield|here]].
*''e'' is equal to 1.5 if the winning Pokémon is holding a [[Lucky Egg]], and 1 otherwise.
*''L'' is the [[level]] of the fainted Pokémon.
** In [[Generation V]], ''Lp'' is the level of the victorious Pokémon.
*''s'' is the number of Pokémon that participated in the battle and have not fainted. If any Pokémon in the party is holding an [[Exp. Share]], ''s'' is equal to 2, and for the rest of the Pokémon, ''s'' is equal to twice the number of Pokémon that participated instead.
** If more than one Pokémon is holding an Exp. Share, ''s'' is equal to twice the number of Pokémon holding the Exp. Share for each Pokémon holding one.
*''p'' is equal to 1 if no [[Entralink#List of Pass Powers|Exp. Point Power]] is active, or else equal to the following depending on the power: Power ↓↓↓: 0.5; Power ↓↓: 0.66; Power ↓: 0.8; Power ↑: 1.2; Power ↑↑: 1.5; Power ↑↑↑, Power S, Power MAX: 2.

In [[Generation V]], the experience gain formula was revamped. The constant divisor of 7 was changed to 5, and a factor was added that took the battling Pokémon's level into account.

Also, a constant of 1 was added to each battle, presumably to prevent a defeated Pokémon from yielding no experience due to a very low ratio between levels.

====Example (Generation I to IV)====
An originally owned {{p|Skitty}} holding a [[Lucky Egg]] and an internationally traded {{p|Meowth}} have just defeated a Level 78 Trainer-owned {{p|Garchomp}}, with an originally owned {{p|Salamence}} in the winner's [[party]] holding an [[Exp. Share]].

The base experience yield of a Garchomp is 218, meaning that a Level 78 Garchomp will normally yield 2429 experience points. Because the battle is a Trainer battle, this is multiplied by 1.5 to give 3643.

The Exp. Share will automatically give half the experience points to the Salamence, giving it 1821 experience points.
The Skitty gets half of the remaining experience points, with a 1.5 multiplier because of the Lucky Egg. This means that the Skitty earns 1366 experience points.

The Meowth gets half of the remaining experience points, with a 1.7 multiplier because it was internationally traded. This means that the Meowth earns 1548 experience points.

====Example (Generation V)====
An internationally traded, level 55 {{p|Venusaur}} has just defeated a wild, level 62 {{p|Zekrom}}.

The base experience yield of Zekrom is 306, meaning that a level 62 Zekrom will normally yield 3794 experience points, when defeated by another Pokémon at level 62. However, this Venusaur is at level 55, meaning that it will yield 4338 experience points. The constant of 1 is added, giving 4339, and the international trade multiplies this by 1.7, meaning that this Zekrom will yield a total of 7376 experience points.

===Experience underflow glitch===
In [[Generation I]] and [[Generation II]], level 1 Pokémon in the medium slow group were calculated to have -54 experience points. However, due to the use of {{wp|unsigned integer}}s, the program took this to be 16,777,162 experience points, and if a Pokémon did not gain enough experience points to wrap this number back down to zero, it would be considered to be at level 100 (having gone over the amount required to be level 100 by over 15 million experience points), and instantaneously jump to this level.

It is due to this bug that no level 1 Pokémon can be found in the wild without abusing a glitch or hacking the game. It is also for this reason that although level 2-4 Pokémon can be found wild, Pokémon hatched from Eggs at level 5 when Eggs were introduced in Generation II.

This glitch was finally addressed in Generation III, which uses a lookup table, rather than an actual formula, to determine level-up experience (this is also why the two new functions introduced in that generation are able to be piecewise functions). Despite this, Pokémon still hatched at level 5 in that generation. Level 1 Pokémon were not "legitimate" until Generation IV, the first generation in which level 1 Pokémon can be found in the wild and {{pkmn|Egg}}s hatch into level 1 Pokémon.

====In Generation I====
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====In Generation II====
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==In the spin-off games==
===In the Pokémon Mystery Dungeon series===
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Pokémon may also gain experience in the Mystery Dungeon series. After a Pokémon is defeated, each member of the team will gain the full share of experience points. The base amount of experience earned is floor((Base Experience) * (Level - 1) / 10) + (Base Experience).

If a Pokémon with experience is defeated using only regular attacks, the experience gain is only 50% (rounded down) of the base value. If at least one move was used against the foe (and, if it is an attack that deals damage, must deal at least 1 damage), or if the foe uses a move that targets itself or other enemy Pokémon, the experience gain is the full base value. If the qualifying attack is part of a linked move, the experience gain is 150% of the base value.

As with the main series of games, Pokémon acquiring enough experience points will level up. The amount needed differs from the main series games, and is defined differently for each Pokémon. It is not known if Pokémon can be grouped by experience growth as in the main games.

Unlike in the main games, Pokémon cannot evolve upon level up (or while in a dungeon in general), although level is a factor in determining whether or not they can evolve.

===In the Pokémon Ranger series===
In the Pokémon Ranger games, experience is acquired in an entirely different way from in the main Pokémon games. When a Pokémon is successfully captured using the Styler, the Styler will gain experience points, and a certain number of experience points will cause the Styler to level up. However, each Pokémon of the same species will yield the exact same amount of experience points, as there is no concept of level in the Ranger games.

In ''Shadows of Almia'', certain bonuses can be applied to the experience points gained under certain conditions, such as if the capture was made using only one line, or multiple Pokémon were captured at once.

==Trivia==
* The Pokémon with the highest base experience yield is {{p|Blissey}}, with a base yield of 608. The Pokémon with the lowest base experience yield are {{p|Snivy}}, {{p|Tepig}}, and {{p|Oshawott}}, with a base yield of 28.
** Before [[Generation V]], the Pokémon with the lowest base experience yield was {{p|Magikarp}} with a yield of 20, and the Pokémon with the highest base experience yields were {{p|Arceus}}, {{p|Happiny}}, {{p|Chansey}}, and {{p|Blissey}}, with a yield of 255.
* The highest possible amount of experience points that can be gained in a Single Battle is 457,970. This can be done by defeating a level 100 {{p|Blissey}} in a Trainer battle, using an internationally traded Pokémon at level 1 that is holding a {{DL|Experience-affecting item|Lucky Egg}}, with Exp. Point Power ↑↑↑, S or MAX active. This means that given these conditions, a Pokémon could technically advance from level 1 all the way to level 87 in a Single Battle, provided that it was in the Erratic experience group. 
** A Pokémon in the Fast experience group would advance to level 83.
** A Pokémon in the Medium Fast experience group would advance to level 77.
** A Pokémon in the Medium Slow experience group would advance to level 76.
** A Pokémon in the Slow experience group would advance to level 71.
** A Pokémon in the Fluctuating experience group would advance to level 69.
** Before [[Generation V]], the highest number of experience points it was possible to gain was 13,933. This could be done by defeating a level 100 {{p|Arceus}}, {{p|Happiny}}, {{p|Chansey}}, or {{p|Blissey}} in a Trainer battle, using an internationally traded Pokémon that is holding a Lucky Egg. This means that the most levels that a Pokémon could advance in a Single Battle is 25, if a level 1 Pokémon in the Medium Slow experience group defeated the level 100 Pokémon as mentioned above.
* The lowest possible number of experience points for a single Pokémon to obtain in a Single Battle is one. This can be done by defeating a {{pkmn2|wild}} level 1 {{p|Patrat}}, {{p|Purrloin}}, or any other Pokémon with a base experience yield lower than 100, using a level 99 Pokémon.
** Before [[Generation V]], this could be done by defeating a {{pkmn2|wild}} level 1 {{p|Magikarp}} and splitting the experience points between three battling Pokémon.
* The Medium Fast experience group is the only group not to have either the highest or the lowest total experience requirement at any level, being bounded by the Slow and Fast functions. The Medium Slow group is the only one to have both the highest and the lowest total experience requirement in at least one level before level 50.
* There are no [[Generation V]] Pokémon in the Erratic or Fluctuating experience groups. Coincidentally, both groups were introduced in [[Generation III]].
* The [[tao trio]] member the player has to catch, {{p|Reshiram}}{{sup/5|Bl}} or {{p|Zekrom}}{{sup/5|W}}, does not yield experience points, even if it is knocked out at [[Dragonspiral Tower]] due to having a full party and boxes upon initial encounter.

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[[ja:経験値]]
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Dragonspiral Tower

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Omega Metroid: /* Entrance */

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|image=Dragonspiral Tower.png
|image_size=256
|location_name=Dragonspiral Tower
|japanese_name={{tt|リュウラセンの塔|Ryūrasen no Tō}}
|translated_name=Dragonspiral Tower
|location=North of [[Icirrus City]]
|type=ruins
|mapdesc=The oldest tower in the Unova region. No one knows its history.
|region=Unova
|generation={{Gen|V}}
}}

'''Dragonspiral Tower''' (Japanese: '''{{tt|リュウラセンの塔|リュウラセンのとう}}''' ''Dragonspiral Tower'') is an old tower where {{p|Zekrom}}{{sup/5|Bl}}{{sup/5|B2}}/{{p|Reshiram}}{{sup/5|W}}{{sup/5|W2}} was sealed in the [[Dragon Stones|Dark Stone]]{{sup/5|Bl}}{{sup/5|B2}}/[[Dragon Stones|Light Stone]]{{sup/5|W}}{{sup/5|W2}} after the war thousands of years ago, until it was awoken by [[N]]. It is located in the western part of Unova, just above [[Icirrus City]]. Though it is not known who built it or when it was built, it is the oldest structure in Unova. It is said this is where [[legendary Pokémon]] are created and slumber.

{{p|Reshiram}}{{sup/5|Bl}}/{{p|Zekrom}}{{sup/5|W}} can be found here after the credits if the player had a full party and PC when prompted to catch them at [[N's Castle]], because players are not forced to catch them under these circumstances.

In Pokémon Black 2 and White 2, if the player brings the Dark Stone{{sup/5|B2}}/Light Stone{{sup/5|W2}} to the top of the tower after receiving it from [[N]], {{p|Zekrom}}{{sup/5|B2}}/{{p|Reshiram}}{{sup/5|W2}} will turn back into its regular form from its Dragon Stone form, allowing the player to capture it.

==Items==
{{Itlisth|ruins}}
{{Itemlist|Old Gateau|Entrance, gift from [[Cedric Juniper]]|Bl=yes|W=yes|B2=yes|W2=yes|display={{DL|Status ailment healing item|Old Gateau}}}}
{{Itemlist|Nugget|Entrance, slope at exit of [[Icirrus City]] {{sup/s|W}}|Bl=yes|W=yes|display={{DL|Valuable item|Nugget}}}}
{{Itemlist|TM Dark|Eastern edge of outside area (requires {{m|Surf}})|Bl=yes|W=yes|display={{TM|63|Embargo}}}}
{{Itemlist|Heart Scale|On the eastern outer wall of the Tower (requires {{m|Surf}}) ''(hidden)''|Bl=yes|W=yes|display={{DL|Exchangeable item|Heart Scale}}}}
{{Itemlist|Hyper Potion|2F, north-east corner|Bl=yes|W=yes|display={{DL|Potion|Hyper Potion}}}}
{{Itemlist|Stardust|2F, on top of a pillar|Bl=yes|W=yes|display={{DL|Valuable item|Stardust}}}}
{{Itemlist|Shiny Stone|3F, north-east corner|Bl=yes|W=yes|display={{evostone|Shiny Stone}}}}
{{Itemlist|Dragon Fang|4F, north-east corner|Bl=yes|W=yes|display={{DL|Type-enhancing item|Dragon Fang}}}}
{{Itemlist|Star Piece|5F, third ring|Bl=yes|W=yes|display={{DL|Valuable item|Star Piece}}}}
{{Itemlist|Stardust|5F, first ring|Bl=yes|W=yes|display={{DL|Valuable item|Stardust}}}}
{{Itemlist|Revive|5F, second ring|Bl=yes|W=yes|display={{DL|Revive|Revive}}}}
{{Itemlist|Max Elixir|6F, north-east corner|Bl=yes|W=yes|display={{DL|Ether|Max Elixir}}}}
{{Itemlist|NeverMeltIce|Entrance, slope at exit of [[Icirrus City]] {{sup/s|W}}|B2=yes|W2=yes|display={{DL|Type-enhancing item|NeverMeltIce}}}}
{{Itemlist|Red Shard|2F; in a lone rock at the northern part ''(hidden)''|B2=yes|W2=yes}}
{{Itemlist|Elixir|2F; eastern part|B2=yes|W2=yes}}
{{Itemlist|Ultra Ball|2F; western part|B2=yes|W2=yes}}
{{Itemlist|Shiny Stone|3F|B2=yes|W2=yes}}
{{Itemlist|Protein|3F|B2=yes|W2=yes}}
{{Itemlist|Adamant Orb|4F; near the other two orbs|B2=yes|W2=yes|display=[[Timespace orbs|Adamant Orb]]}}
{{Itemlist|Lustrous Orb|4F; near the other two orbs|B2=yes|W2=yes|display=[[Timespace orbs|Lustrous Orb]]}}
{{Itemlist|Griseous Orb|4F; near the other two orbs|B2=yes|W2=yes|display=[[Timespace orbs|Griseous Orb]]}}
{{Itemlist|TM Dragon|5F|B2=yes|W2=yes|display={{TM|02|Dragon Claw}}}}
{{Itemlist|Max Revive|5F|B2=yes|W2=yes}}
{{Itemlist|PP Max|5F|B2=yes|W2=yes}}
{{Itemlist|Comet Shard|
*6F
*7F, northeastern corner, after summoning {{p|Zekrom}}{{sup/5|B2}}/{{p|Reshiram}}{{sup/5|W2}} ''(hidden)''|B2=yes|W2=yes}}
{{Itlistfoot|ruins}}

==Pokémon==
===Pokémon Black and White===
====Entrance====
{{Catch/header|{{#switch: {{#time: F}}|April|August|December=snow|forest}}|seasons=yes}}
{{catch/entry5|520|Tranquill|yes|yes|N/A|Grass|30,32|30%|30%|30%|-|type1=Normal|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entry5|582|Vanillite|yes|yes|N/A|Grass|31-33|-|-|-|30%|type1=Ice}}
{{catch/entry5|585|Deerling|yes|yes|N/A|Grass|31-32|30%|-|-|-|type1=Normal|type2=Grass}}
{{catch/entry5|585S|Deerling|yes|yes|N/A|Grass|31-32|-|30%|-|-|type1=Normal|type2=Grass}}
{{catch/entry5|585A|Deerling|yes|yes|N/A|Grass|31-32|-|-|30%|-|type1=Normal|type2=Grass}}
{{catch/entry5|585W|Deerling|yes|yes|N/A|Grass|30-32|-|-|-|30%|type1=Normal|type2=Grass}}
{{catch/entry5|619|Mienfoo|yes|yes|N/A|Grass|30-33|all=30%|type1=Fighting}}
{{catch/entry5|621|Druddigon|yes|yes|N/A|Grass|31-33|10%|10%|10%|-|type1=Dragon}}
{{catch/entry5|613|Cubchoo|yes|yes|N/A|Grass|33|-|-|-|10%|type1=ice}}
{{catch/div|snow|Dark grass (winter only)}}
{{catch/entry5|583|Vanillish|yes|yes|N/A|Dark|35-37|-|-|-|30%|type1=Ice}}
{{catch/entry5|586W|Sawsbuck|yes|yes|N/A|Dark|34,36|-|-|-|30%|type1=Normal|type2=Grass}}
{{catch/entry5|619|Mienfoo|yes|yes|N/A|Dark|34-37|-|-|-|30%|type1=Fighting}}
{{catch/entry5|614|Beartic|yes|yes|N/A|Dark|37|-|-|-|10%|type1=Ice}}
{{catch/div|{{#switch: {{#time: F}}|April|August|December=snow|forest}}|Rustling grass}}
{{catch/entry5|531|Audino|yes|yes|N/A|Rustling|30-33|85%|85%|85%|90%|type1=Normal}}
{{catch/entry5|587|Emolga|yes|yes|N/A|Rustling|31|all=10%|type1=Electric|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entry5|{{#ifexpr: ({{#time: H}} mod 2) = 0|521|521F}}|Unfezant|yes|yes|N/A|Rustling|33|5%|5%|5%|-|type1=Normal|type2=Flying}}
{{Catch/footer|{{#switch: {{#time: F}}|April|August|December=snow|forest}}|seasons=yes}}


====Outside====
{{Catch/header|{{#switch: {{#time: F}}|April|August|December=snow|forest}}|seasons=yes}}
{{catch/entry5|520|Tranquill|yes|yes|N/A|Grass|30,32|30%|30%|30%|-|type1=Normal|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entry5|582|Vanillite|yes|yes|N/A|Grass|31-33|-|-|-|30%|type1=Ice}}
{{catch/entry5|585|Deerling|yes|yes|N/A|Grass|31-32|30%|-|-|-|type1=Normal|type2=Grass}}
{{catch/entry5|585S|Deerling|yes|yes|N/A|Grass|31-32|-|30%|-|-|type1=Normal|type2=Grass}}
{{catch/entry5|585A|Deerling|yes|yes|N/A|Grass|31-32|-|-|30%|-|type1=Normal|type2=Grass}}
{{catch/entry5|585W|Deerling|yes|yes|N/A|Grass|31-32|-|-|-|30%|type1=Normal|type2=Grass}}
{{catch/entry5|619|Mienfoo|yes|yes|N/A|Grass|30-33|all=30%|type1=Fighting}}
{{catch/entry5|621|Druddigon|yes|yes|N/A|Grass|31-33|10%|10%|10%|-|type1=Dragon}}
{{catch/entry5|613|Cubchoo|yes|yes|N/A|Grass|33|-|-|-|10%|type1=ice}}
{{catch/div|{{#switch: {{#time: F}}|April|August|December=snow|forest}}|Dark grass}}
{{catch/entry5|520|Tranquill|yes|yes|N/A|Dark|35-36|30%|30%|30%|-|type1=Normal|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entry5|583|Vanillish|yes|yes|N/A|Dark|35-37|-|-|-|30%|type1=Ice}}
{{catch/entry5|586|Sawsbuck|yes|yes|N/A|Dark|34-36|30%|-|-|-|type1=Normal|type2=Grass}}
{{catch/entry5|586S|Sawsbuck|yes|yes|N/A|Dark|34-36|-|30%|-|-|type1=Normal|type2=Grass}}
{{catch/entry5|586A|Sawsbuck|yes|yes|N/A|Dark|34-36|-|-|30%|-|type1=Normal|type2=Grass}}
{{catch/entry5|586W|Sawsbuck|yes|yes|N/A|Dark|34-36|-|-|-|30%|type1=Normal|type2=Grass}}
{{catch/entry5|619|Mienfoo|yes|yes|N/A|Dark|33-36|all=30%|type1=Fighting}}
{{catch/entry5|621|Druddigon|yes|yes|N/A|Dark|31-33|10%|10%|10%|-|type1=Dragon}}
{{catch/entry5|614|Beartic|yes|yes|N/A|Dark|33, 37|-|-|-|10%|type1=Ice}}
{{catch/div|{{#switch: {{#time: F}}|April|August|December=snow|forest}}|Rustling grass}}
{{catch/entry5|531|Audino|yes|yes|N/A|Rustling|30-33|85%|85%|85%|90% |type1=Normal}}
{{catch/entry5|587|Emolga|yes|yes|N/A|Rustling|31|all=10%|type1=Electric|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entry5|{{#ifexpr: ({{#time: H}} mod 2) = 0|521|521F}}|Unfezant|yes|yes|N/A|Rustling|33|5%|5%|5%|-|type1=Normal|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/div|water|Surfing}}
{{catch/entry5|550|Basculin|yes|no|N/A|Surf|15-35|all=100%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/entry5|550B|Basculin|no|yes|N/A|Surf|15-35|all=100%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/div|water|Rippling water}}
{{catch/entry5|550|Basculin|no|yes|N/A|Rippling|15-40|all=100%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/entry5|550B|Basculin|yes|no|N/A|Rippling|15-40|all=100%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/div|water|Fishing}}
{{catch/entry5|147|Dratini|yes|yes|N/A|Fishing|35-55|all=65%|type1=Dragon}}
{{catch/entry5|550|Basculin|yes|no|N/A|Fishing|35-55|all=30%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/entry5|550B|Basculin|no|yes|N/A|Fishing|35-55|all=30%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/entry5|148|Dragonair|yes|yes|N/A|Fishing|35-55|all=5%|type1=Dragon}}
{{catch/div|water|Rippling water}}
{{catch/entry5|147|Dratini|yes|yes|N/A|Rippling|35-60|all=60%|type1=Dragon}}
{{catch/entry5|550|Basculin|no|yes|N/A|Rippling|35-60|all=30%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/entry5|550B|Basculin|yes|no|N/A|Rippling|35-60|all=30%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/entry5|148|Dragonair|yes|yes|N/A|Rippling|35-70|all=9%|type1=Dragon}}
{{catch/entry5|149|Dragonite|yes|yes|N/A|Rippling|50-70|all=1%|type1=Dragon|type2=Flying}}
{{Catch/footer|{{#switch: {{#time: F}}|April|August|December=snow|forest}}|seasons=yes}}

====Inside====
{{Catch/header|ruins|4}}
{{catch/div|ruins|1F}}
{{catch/entry5|622|Golett|yes|yes|N/A|1F|30-33|all=50%|type1=Ground|type2=Ghost}}
{{catch/entry5|621|Druddigon|yes|yes|N/A|1F|30-33|all=30%|type1=Dragon}}
{{catch/entry5|619|Mienfoo|yes|yes|N/A|1F|33|all=20%|type1=Fighting}}
{{catch/div|ruins|2F}}
{{catch/entry5|622|Golett|yes|yes|N/A|2F|30-33|all=100%|type1=Ground|type2=Ghost}}
{{catch/div|ruins|Special}}
{{catch/entry5|643|Reshiram|yes|no|N/A|Special|50|all={{tt|One|Appears after the credits, if the player had a full party and PC when prompted to catch it at N's Castle}}|type1=dragon|type2=fire}}
{{catch/entry5|644|Zekrom|no|yes|N/A|Special|50|all={{tt|One|Appears after the credits, if the player had a full party and PC when prompted to catch it at N's Castle}}|type1=dragon|type2=electric}}
{{Catch/footer|ruins|seasons=yes}}

===Pokémon Black 2 and White 2===
====Entrance====
{{Catch/header|{{#switch: {{#time: F}}|April|August|December=snow|forest}}|seasons=yes}}
{{catch/entry5-2|520|Tranquill|yes|yes|Grass|55, 57-58|%|%|%|-|type1=Normal|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entry5-2|583|Vanillish|yes|yes|Grass|55, 57|-|-|-|%|type1=Ice}}
{{catch/entry5-2|586|Sawsbuck|yes|yes|Grass|55, 57-58|%|-|-|-|type1=Normal|type2=Grass}}
{{catch/entry5-2|586S|Sawsbuck|yes|yes|Grass|55, 57-58|-|%|-|-|type1=Normal|type2=Grass}}
{{catch/entry5-2|586A|Sawsbuck|yes|yes|Grass|55, 57-58|-|-|%|-|type1=Normal|type2=Grass}}
{{catch/entry5-2|586W|Sawsbuck|yes|yes|Grass|55, 57-58|-|-|-|%|type1=Normal|type2=Grass}}
{{catch/entry5-2|614|Beartic|yes|yes|Grass|57-58|-|-|-|%|type1=Ice}}
{{catch/entry5-2|620|Mienshao|yes|yes|Grass|56, 58|all=%|type1=Fighting}}
{{catch/div|snow|Dark grass (winter only)}}
{{catch/entry5-2|583|Vanillish|yes|yes|Dark|63, 65|-|-|-|%|type1=Ice}}
{{catch/entry5-2|586W|Sawsbuck|yes|yes|Dark|63, 65|-|-|-|%|type1=Normal|type2=Grass}}
{{catch/entry5-2|614|Beartic|yes|yes|Dark|65-66|-|-|-|%|type1=Ice}}
{{catch/entry5-2|620|Mienshao|yes|yes|Dark|64-66|-|-|-|%|type1=Fighting}}
{{catch/div|{{#switch: {{#time: F}}|April|August|December=snow|forest}}|Rustling grass}}
{{catch/entry5-2|531|Audino|yes|yes|Rustling|55|all=%|type1=Normal}}
{{catch/entry5-2|587|Emolga|yes|yes|Rustling|56|all=%|type1=Electric|type2=Flying}}
{{Catch/footer|{{#switch: {{#time: F}}|April|August|December=snow|forest}}|seasons=yes}}

====Outside====
{{Catch/header|{{#switch: {{#time: F}}|April|August|December=snow|forest}}|seasons=yes}}
{{catch/entry5-2|520|Tranquill|yes|yes|Grass|55, 57-58|%|%|%|-|type1=Normal|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entry5-2|583|Vanillish|yes|yes|Grass|55|-|-|-|%|type1=Ice}}
{{catch/entry5-2|586|Sawsbuck|yes|yes|Grass|55, 57|%|-|-|-|type1=Normal|type2=Grass}}
{{catch/entry5-2|586S|Sawsbuck|yes|yes|Grass|55, 57|-|%|-|-|type1=Normal|type2=Grass}}
{{catch/entry5-2|586A|Sawsbuck|yes|yes|Grass|55, 57|-|-|%|-|type1=Normal|type2=Grass}}
{{catch/entry5-2|586W|Sawsbuck|yes|yes|Grass|55, 57|-|-|-|%|type1=Normal|type2=Grass}}
{{catch/entry5-2|614|Beartic|yes|yes|Grass|58|-|-|-|%|type1=Ice}}
{{catch/entry5-2|620|Mienshao|yes|yes|Grass|56-58|all=%|type1=Fighting}}
{{catch/entry5-2|621|Druddigon|yes|yes|Grass|58|all=%|type1=Dragon}}
{{catch/div|{{#switch: {{#time: F}}|April|August|December=snow|forest}}|Dark grass}}
{{catch/entry5-2|520|Tranquill|yes|yes|Dark|65|%|%|%|-|type1=Normal|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entry5-2|583|Vanillish|yes|yes|Dark|63|-|-|-|%|type1=Ice}}
{{catch/entry5-2|586|Sawsbuck|yes|yes|Dark|63, 65|%|-|-|-|type1=Normal|type2=Grass}}
{{catch/entry5-2|586S|Sawsbuck|yes|yes|Dark|63, 65|-|%|-|-|type1=Normal|type2=Grass}}
{{catch/entry5-2|586A|Sawsbuck|yes|yes|Dark|63, 65|-|-|%|-|type1=Normal|type2=Grass}}
{{catch/entry5-2|586W|Sawsbuck|yes|yes|Dark|63, 65|-|-|-|%|type1=Normal|type2=Grass}}
{{catch/entry5-2|614|Beartic|yes|yes|Dark|64-65|-|-|-|%|type1=Ice}}
{{catch/entry5-2|620|Mienshao|yes|yes|Dark|64-65|all=%|type1=Fighting}}
{{catch/entry5-2|621|Druddigon|yes|yes|Dark|66|all=%|type1=Dragon}}
{{catch/div|{{#switch: {{#time: F}}|April|August|December=snow|forest}}|Rustling grass}}
{{catch/entry5-2|531|Audino|yes|yes|Rustling|55|%|%|%|%|type1=Normal}}
{{catch/entry5-2|{{#ifexpr: ({{#time: H}} mod 2) = 0|521|521F}}|Unfezant|yes|yes|Rustling||%|%|%|-|type1=Normal|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/div|water|Surfing}}
{{catch/entry5-2|550|Basculin|yes|no|Surf|50, 53, 55|all=%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/entry5-2|550B|Basculin|no|yes|Surf|50, 53, 55|all=%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/div|water|Rippling water}}
{{catch/entry5-2|550B|Basculin|yes|no|Rippling|46|all=%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/entry5-2|550|Basculin|no|yes|Rippling|46|all=%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/div|water|Fishing}}
{{catch/entry5-2|147|Dratini|yes|yes|Fish Super|43-44, 63, 68|all=%|type1=Dragon}}
{{catch/entry5-2|550|Basculin|yes|no|Fish Super|40, 43, 50, 58|all=%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/entry5-2|550B|Basculin|no|yes|Fish Super|40, 43, 50, 58|all=%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/div|water|Rippling water}}
{{catch/entry5-2|550|Basculin|no|yes|Rippling|45, 53|all=%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/entry5-2|550B|Basculin|yes|no|Rippling|45, 53|all=%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/entry5-2|147|Dratini|yes|yes|Rippling|47-49, 54, 57-60|all=%|type1=Dragon}}
{{catch/entry5-2|148|Dragonair|yes|yes|Rippling|50, 53, 59-60, 65|all=%|type1=Dragon}}
{{catch/entry5-2|149|Dragonite|yes|yes|Rippling|67|all=%|type1=Dragon}}
{{Catch/footer|{{#switch: {{#time: F}}|April|August|December=snow|forest}}|seasons=yes}}

====Inside====
{{Catch/header|ruins|4}}
{{catch/div|ruins|1F}}
{{catch/entry5-2|620|Mienshao|yes|yes|1F|55|all=%|type1=Fighting}}
{{catch/entry5-2|621|Druddigon|yes|yes|1F|58|all=%|type1=Dragon}}
{{catch/entry5-2|623|Golurk|yes|yes|1F|55-58|all=%|type1=Ground|type2=Ghost}}
{{catch/div|ruins|2F}}
{{catch/entry5-2|623|Golurk|yes|yes|2F|55-58|all=100%|type1=Ground|type2=Ghost}}
{{catch/div|ruins|Special}}
{{catch/entry5-2|643|Reshiram|no|yes|Special|70|all={{tt|One|Appears after obtaining the Light Stone}}|type1=dragon|type2=fire}}
{{catch/entry5-2|644|Zekrom|yes|no|Special|70|all={{tt|One|Appears after obtaining the Dark Stone}}|type1=dragon|type2=electric}}
{{Catch/footer|ruins|seasons=yes}}

==Trainers==
===Pokémon Black and White===
====Outside====
{{Trainerheader|{{#switch: {{#time: F}}|April|August|December=snow|forest}}}}
{{Trainerentry|Spr BW Ace Trainer M.png|Ace Trainer|Jesse|2160|2|583|Vanillish|♂|36|None|596|Galvantula|♂|36|None|36=リュウヘイ|37=Ryūhei}}
{{Trainerdiv|{{#switch: {{#time: F}}|April|August|December=snow|forest}}}}
{{Trainerentry|Spr BW Ace Trainer F.png|Ace Trainer|Jamie|2100|3|613|Cubchoo|♀|35|None|555|Darmanitan|♀|35|None|542|Leavanny|♀|35|None|36=ヒトミ|37=Hitomi}}
{{Trainerfooter|{{#switch: {{#time: F}}|April|August|December=snow|forest}}|5}}

====4F====
{{Trainerheader|ruins}}
{{Trainerentry|Spr BW Plasma Grunt M.png|Team Plasma Grunt||1360|1|505|Watchog|♂|34|None}}
{{Trainerdiv|ruins}}
{{Trainerentry|Spr BW Plasma Grunt F.png|Team Plasma Grunt||1360|1|510|Liepard|♀|34|None}}
{{Trainerdiv|ruins}}
{{Trainerentry|Spr BW Plasma Grunt M.png|Team Plasma Grunt||1360|1|559|Scraggy|♂|34|None}}
{{Trainerdiv|ruins}}
{{Trainerentry|Spr BW Plasma Grunt F.png|Team Plasma Grunt||1320|2|510|Liepard|♀|33|None|510|Liepard|♀|33|None}}
{{Trainerdiv|ruins}}
{{Trainerentry|Spr BW Plasma Grunt M.png|Team Plasma Grunt||1280|3|505|Watchog|♂|32|None|552|Krokorok|♂|32|None|559|Scraggy|♂|32|None}}
{{Trainerfooter|ruins|5}}

====6F====
{{Trainerheader|ruins}}
{{Trainerentry|Spr BW Plasma Grunt M.png|Team Plasma Grunt||1320|2|505|Watchog|♂|33|None|552|Krokorok|♂|33|None}}
{{Trainerdiv|ruins}}
{{Trainerentry|Spr BW Plasma Grunt M.png|Team Plasma Grunt||1360|1|552|Krokorok|♂|34|None}}
{{Trainerdiv|ruins}}
{{Trainerentry|Spr BW Plasma Grunt F.png|Team Plasma Grunt||1320|2|568|Trubbish|♀|33|None|510|Liepard|♀|33|None}}
{{Trainerdiv|ruins}}
{{Trainerentry|Spr BW Plasma Grunt M.png|Team Plasma Grunt||1360|1|505|Watchog|♂|34|None}}
{{Trainerfooter|ruins|5}}

==Trivia==
* The [[Bicycle|cycling]] and {{m|surf}}ing themes aren't used outside the tower. It is not possible to use the Bicycle inside the tower.

==In other languages==
{{Langtable|color={{locationcolor/light|ruins}}|bordercolor={{locationcolor/dark|ruins}}
|fr=Tour Dragospire
|de=Drachenstiege
|it=Torre Dragospira
|ko=용나선탑
|es=Torre Duodraco}}
{{-}}

{{Unova}} 
{{legendarylocations|unova}} 
{{Project Locations notice}}

[[Category:Black and White locations]]
[[Category:Black 2 and White 2 locations]]
[[Category:Towers]]
[[Category:Ruins]]

[[de:Drachenstiege]]
[[es:Torre Duodraco]]
[[fr:Tour Dragospire]]
[[it:Torre Dragospira]]
[[ja:リュウラセンのとう]]
[[pl:Dragonspiral Tower]]

Dragonspiral Tower

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{{Infobox location
|image=Dragonspiral Tower.png
|image_size=256
|location_name=Dragonspiral Tower
|japanese_name={{tt|リュウラセンの塔|Ryūrasen no Tō}}
|translated_name=Dragonspiral Tower
|location=North of [[Icirrus City]]
|type=ruins
|mapdesc=The oldest tower in the Unova region. No one knows its history.
|region=Unova
|generation={{Gen|V}}
}}

'''Dragonspiral Tower''' (Japanese: '''{{tt|リュウラセンの塔|リュウラセンのとう}}''' ''Dragonspiral Tower'') is an old tower where {{p|Zekrom}}{{sup/5|Bl}}{{sup/5|B2}}/{{p|Reshiram}}{{sup/5|W}}{{sup/5|W2}} was sealed in the [[Dragon Stones|Dark Stone]]{{sup/5|Bl}}{{sup/5|B2}}/[[Dragon Stones|Light Stone]]{{sup/5|W}}{{sup/5|W2}} after the war thousands of years ago, until it was awoken by [[N]]. It is located in the western part of Unova, just above [[Icirrus City]]. Though it is not known who built it or when it was built, it is the oldest structure in Unova. It is said this is where [[legendary Pokémon]] are created and slumber.

{{p|Reshiram}}{{sup/5|Bl}}/{{p|Zekrom}}{{sup/5|W}} can be found here after the credits if the player had a full party and PC when prompted to catch them at [[N's Castle]], because players are not forced to catch them under these circumstances.

In Pokémon Black 2 and White 2, if the player brings the Dark Stone{{sup/5|B2}}/Light Stone{{sup/5|W2}} to the top of the tower after receiving it from [[N]], {{p|Zekrom}}{{sup/5|B2}}/{{p|Reshiram}}{{sup/5|W2}} will turn back into its regular form from its Dragon Stone form, allowing the player to capture it.

==Items==
{{Itlisth|ruins}}
{{Itemlist|Old Gateau|Entrance, gift from [[Cedric Juniper]]|Bl=yes|W=yes|B2=yes|W2=yes|display={{DL|Status ailment healing item|Old Gateau}}}}
{{Itemlist|Nugget|Entrance, slope at exit of [[Icirrus City]] {{sup/s|W}}|Bl=yes|W=yes|display={{DL|Valuable item|Nugget}}}}
{{Itemlist|TM Dark|Eastern edge of outside area (requires {{m|Surf}})|Bl=yes|W=yes|display={{TM|63|Embargo}}}}
{{Itemlist|Heart Scale|On the eastern outer wall of the Tower (requires {{m|Surf}}) ''(hidden)''|Bl=yes|W=yes|display={{DL|Exchangeable item|Heart Scale}}}}
{{Itemlist|Hyper Potion|2F, north-east corner|Bl=yes|W=yes|display={{DL|Potion|Hyper Potion}}}}
{{Itemlist|Stardust|2F, on top of a pillar|Bl=yes|W=yes|display={{DL|Valuable item|Stardust}}}}
{{Itemlist|Shiny Stone|3F, north-east corner|Bl=yes|W=yes|display={{evostone|Shiny Stone}}}}
{{Itemlist|Dragon Fang|4F, north-east corner|Bl=yes|W=yes|display={{DL|Type-enhancing item|Dragon Fang}}}}
{{Itemlist|Star Piece|5F, third ring|Bl=yes|W=yes|display={{DL|Valuable item|Star Piece}}}}
{{Itemlist|Stardust|5F, first ring|Bl=yes|W=yes|display={{DL|Valuable item|Stardust}}}}
{{Itemlist|Revive|5F, second ring|Bl=yes|W=yes|display={{DL|Revive|Revive}}}}
{{Itemlist|Max Elixir|6F, north-east corner|Bl=yes|W=yes|display={{DL|Ether|Max Elixir}}}}
{{Itemlist|NeverMeltIce|Entrance, slope at exit of [[Icirrus City]] {{sup/s|W}}|B2=yes|W2=yes|display={{DL|Type-enhancing item|NeverMeltIce}}}}
{{Itemlist|Red Shard|2F; in a lone rock at the northern part ''(hidden)''|B2=yes|W2=yes}}
{{Itemlist|Elixir|2F; eastern part|B2=yes|W2=yes}}
{{Itemlist|Ultra Ball|2F; western part|B2=yes|W2=yes}}
{{Itemlist|Shiny Stone|3F|B2=yes|W2=yes}}
{{Itemlist|Protein|3F|B2=yes|W2=yes}}
{{Itemlist|Adamant Orb|4F; near the other two orbs|B2=yes|W2=yes|display=[[Timespace orbs|Adamant Orb]]}}
{{Itemlist|Lustrous Orb|4F; near the other two orbs|B2=yes|W2=yes|display=[[Timespace orbs|Lustrous Orb]]}}
{{Itemlist|Griseous Orb|4F; near the other two orbs|B2=yes|W2=yes|display=[[Timespace orbs|Griseous Orb]]}}
{{Itemlist|TM Dragon|5F|B2=yes|W2=yes|display={{TM|02|Dragon Claw}}}}
{{Itemlist|Max Revive|5F|B2=yes|W2=yes}}
{{Itemlist|PP Max|5F|B2=yes|W2=yes}}
{{Itemlist|Comet Shard|
*6F
*7F, northeastern corner, after summoning {{p|Zekrom}}{{sup/5|B2}}/{{p|Reshiram}}{{sup/5|W2}} ''(hidden)''|B2=yes|W2=yes}}
{{Itlistfoot|ruins}}

==Pokémon==
===Pokémon Black and White===
====Entrance====
{{Catch/header|{{#switch: {{#time: F}}|April|August|December=snow|forest}}|seasons=yes}}
{{catch/entry5|520|Tranquill|yes|yes|N/A|Grass|30,32|30%|30%|30%|-|type1=Normal|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entry5|582|Vanillite|yes|yes|N/A|Grass|31-33|-|-|-|30%|type1=Ice}}
{{catch/entry5|585|Deerling|yes|yes|N/A|Grass|31-32|30%|-|-|-|type1=Normal|type2=Grass}}
{{catch/entry5|585S|Deerling|yes|yes|N/A|Grass|31-32|-|30%|-|-|type1=Normal|type2=Grass}}
{{catch/entry5|585A|Deerling|yes|yes|N/A|Grass|31-32|-|-|30%|-|type1=Normal|type2=Grass}}
{{catch/entry5|585W|Deerling|yes|yes|N/A|Grass|31-32|-|-|-|30%|type1=Normal|type2=Grass}}
{{catch/entry5|619|Mienfoo|yes|yes|N/A|Grass|30-33|all=30%|type1=Fighting}}
{{catch/entry5|621|Druddigon|yes|yes|N/A|Grass|31-33|10%|10%|10%|-|type1=Dragon}}
{{catch/entry5|613|Cubchoo|yes|yes|N/A|Grass|33|-|-|-|10%|type1=ice}}
{{catch/div|snow|Dark grass (winter only)}}
{{catch/entry5|583|Vanillish|yes|yes|N/A|Dark|35-37|-|-|-|30%|type1=Ice}}
{{catch/entry5|586W|Sawsbuck|yes|yes|N/A|Dark|34,36|-|-|-|30%|type1=Normal|type2=Grass}}
{{catch/entry5|619|Mienfoo|yes|yes|N/A|Dark|34-37|-|-|-|30%|type1=Fighting}}
{{catch/entry5|614|Beartic|yes|yes|N/A|Dark|37|-|-|-|10%|type1=Ice}}
{{catch/div|{{#switch: {{#time: F}}|April|August|December=snow|forest}}|Rustling grass}}
{{catch/entry5|531|Audino|yes|yes|N/A|Rustling|30-33|85%|85%|85%|90%|type1=Normal}}
{{catch/entry5|587|Emolga|yes|yes|N/A|Rustling|31|all=10%|type1=Electric|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entry5|{{#ifexpr: ({{#time: H}} mod 2) = 0|521|521F}}|Unfezant|yes|yes|N/A|Rustling|33|5%|5%|5%|-|type1=Normal|type2=Flying}}
{{Catch/footer|{{#switch: {{#time: F}}|April|August|December=snow|forest}}|seasons=yes}}


====Outside====
{{Catch/header|{{#switch: {{#time: F}}|April|August|December=snow|forest}}|seasons=yes}}
{{catch/entry5|520|Tranquill|yes|yes|N/A|Grass|30,32|30%|30%|30%|-|type1=Normal|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entry5|582|Vanillite|yes|yes|N/A|Grass|31-33|-|-|-|30%|type1=Ice}}
{{catch/entry5|585|Deerling|yes|yes|N/A|Grass|31-32|30%|-|-|-|type1=Normal|type2=Grass}}
{{catch/entry5|585S|Deerling|yes|yes|N/A|Grass|31-32|-|30%|-|-|type1=Normal|type2=Grass}}
{{catch/entry5|585A|Deerling|yes|yes|N/A|Grass|31-32|-|-|30%|-|type1=Normal|type2=Grass}}
{{catch/entry5|585W|Deerling|yes|yes|N/A|Grass|31-32|-|-|-|30%|type1=Normal|type2=Grass}}
{{catch/entry5|619|Mienfoo|yes|yes|N/A|Grass|30-33|all=30%|type1=Fighting}}
{{catch/entry5|621|Druddigon|yes|yes|N/A|Grass|31-33|10%|10%|10%|-|type1=Dragon}}
{{catch/entry5|613|Cubchoo|yes|yes|N/A|Grass|33|-|-|-|10%|type1=ice}}
{{catch/div|{{#switch: {{#time: F}}|April|August|December=snow|forest}}|Dark grass}}
{{catch/entry5|520|Tranquill|yes|yes|N/A|Dark|35-36|30%|30%|30%|-|type1=Normal|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entry5|583|Vanillish|yes|yes|N/A|Dark|35-37|-|-|-|30%|type1=Ice}}
{{catch/entry5|586|Sawsbuck|yes|yes|N/A|Dark|34-36|30%|-|-|-|type1=Normal|type2=Grass}}
{{catch/entry5|586S|Sawsbuck|yes|yes|N/A|Dark|34-36|-|30%|-|-|type1=Normal|type2=Grass}}
{{catch/entry5|586A|Sawsbuck|yes|yes|N/A|Dark|34-36|-|-|30%|-|type1=Normal|type2=Grass}}
{{catch/entry5|586W|Sawsbuck|yes|yes|N/A|Dark|34-36|-|-|-|30%|type1=Normal|type2=Grass}}
{{catch/entry5|619|Mienfoo|yes|yes|N/A|Dark|33-36|all=30%|type1=Fighting}}
{{catch/entry5|621|Druddigon|yes|yes|N/A|Dark|31-33|10%|10%|10%|-|type1=Dragon}}
{{catch/entry5|614|Beartic|yes|yes|N/A|Dark|33, 37|-|-|-|10%|type1=Ice}}
{{catch/div|{{#switch: {{#time: F}}|April|August|December=snow|forest}}|Rustling grass}}
{{catch/entry5|531|Audino|yes|yes|N/A|Rustling|30-33|85%|85%|85%|90% |type1=Normal}}
{{catch/entry5|587|Emolga|yes|yes|N/A|Rustling|31|all=10%|type1=Electric|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entry5|{{#ifexpr: ({{#time: H}} mod 2) = 0|521|521F}}|Unfezant|yes|yes|N/A|Rustling|33|5%|5%|5%|-|type1=Normal|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/div|water|Surfing}}
{{catch/entry5|550|Basculin|yes|no|N/A|Surf|15-35|all=100%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/entry5|550B|Basculin|no|yes|N/A|Surf|15-35|all=100%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/div|water|Rippling water}}
{{catch/entry5|550|Basculin|no|yes|N/A|Rippling|15-40|all=100%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/entry5|550B|Basculin|yes|no|N/A|Rippling|15-40|all=100%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/div|water|Fishing}}
{{catch/entry5|147|Dratini|yes|yes|N/A|Fishing|35-55|all=65%|type1=Dragon}}
{{catch/entry5|550|Basculin|yes|no|N/A|Fishing|35-55|all=30%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/entry5|550B|Basculin|no|yes|N/A|Fishing|35-55|all=30%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/entry5|148|Dragonair|yes|yes|N/A|Fishing|35-55|all=5%|type1=Dragon}}
{{catch/div|water|Rippling water}}
{{catch/entry5|147|Dratini|yes|yes|N/A|Rippling|35-60|all=60%|type1=Dragon}}
{{catch/entry5|550|Basculin|no|yes|N/A|Rippling|35-60|all=30%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/entry5|550B|Basculin|yes|no|N/A|Rippling|35-60|all=30%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/entry5|148|Dragonair|yes|yes|N/A|Rippling|35-70|all=9%|type1=Dragon}}
{{catch/entry5|149|Dragonite|yes|yes|N/A|Rippling|50-70|all=1%|type1=Dragon|type2=Flying}}
{{Catch/footer|{{#switch: {{#time: F}}|April|August|December=snow|forest}}|seasons=yes}}

====Inside====
{{Catch/header|ruins|4}}
{{catch/div|ruins|1F}}
{{catch/entry5|622|Golett|yes|yes|N/A|1F|30-33|all=50%|type1=Ground|type2=Ghost}}
{{catch/entry5|621|Druddigon|yes|yes|N/A|1F|30-33|all=30%|type1=Dragon}}
{{catch/entry5|619|Mienfoo|yes|yes|N/A|1F|33|all=20%|type1=Fighting}}
{{catch/div|ruins|2F}}
{{catch/entry5|622|Golett|yes|yes|N/A|2F|30-33|all=100%|type1=Ground|type2=Ghost}}
{{catch/div|ruins|Special}}
{{catch/entry5|643|Reshiram|yes|no|N/A|Special|50|all={{tt|One|Appears after the credits, if the player had a full party and PC when prompted to catch it at N's Castle}}|type1=dragon|type2=fire}}
{{catch/entry5|644|Zekrom|no|yes|N/A|Special|50|all={{tt|One|Appears after the credits, if the player had a full party and PC when prompted to catch it at N's Castle}}|type1=dragon|type2=electric}}
{{Catch/footer|ruins|seasons=yes}}

===Pokémon Black 2 and White 2===
====Entrance====
{{Catch/header|{{#switch: {{#time: F}}|April|August|December=snow|forest}}|seasons=yes}}
{{catch/entry5-2|520|Tranquill|yes|yes|Grass|55, 57-58|%|%|%|-|type1=Normal|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entry5-2|583|Vanillish|yes|yes|Grass|55, 57|-|-|-|%|type1=Ice}}
{{catch/entry5-2|586|Sawsbuck|yes|yes|Grass|55, 57-58|%|-|-|-|type1=Normal|type2=Grass}}
{{catch/entry5-2|586S|Sawsbuck|yes|yes|Grass|55, 57-58|-|%|-|-|type1=Normal|type2=Grass}}
{{catch/entry5-2|586A|Sawsbuck|yes|yes|Grass|55, 57-58|-|-|%|-|type1=Normal|type2=Grass}}
{{catch/entry5-2|586W|Sawsbuck|yes|yes|Grass|55, 57-58|-|-|-|%|type1=Normal|type2=Grass}}
{{catch/entry5-2|614|Beartic|yes|yes|Grass|57-58|-|-|-|%|type1=Ice}}
{{catch/entry5-2|620|Mienshao|yes|yes|Grass|56, 58|all=%|type1=Fighting}}
{{catch/div|snow|Dark grass (winter only)}}
{{catch/entry5-2|583|Vanillish|yes|yes|Dark|63, 65|-|-|-|%|type1=Ice}}
{{catch/entry5-2|586W|Sawsbuck|yes|yes|Dark|63, 65|-|-|-|%|type1=Normal|type2=Grass}}
{{catch/entry5-2|614|Beartic|yes|yes|Dark|65-66|-|-|-|%|type1=Ice}}
{{catch/entry5-2|620|Mienshao|yes|yes|Dark|64-66|-|-|-|%|type1=Fighting}}
{{catch/div|{{#switch: {{#time: F}}|April|August|December=snow|forest}}|Rustling grass}}
{{catch/entry5-2|531|Audino|yes|yes|Rustling|55|all=%|type1=Normal}}
{{catch/entry5-2|587|Emolga|yes|yes|Rustling|56|all=%|type1=Electric|type2=Flying}}
{{Catch/footer|{{#switch: {{#time: F}}|April|August|December=snow|forest}}|seasons=yes}}

====Outside====
{{Catch/header|{{#switch: {{#time: F}}|April|August|December=snow|forest}}|seasons=yes}}
{{catch/entry5-2|520|Tranquill|yes|yes|Grass|55, 57-58|%|%|%|-|type1=Normal|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entry5-2|583|Vanillish|yes|yes|Grass|55|-|-|-|%|type1=Ice}}
{{catch/entry5-2|586|Sawsbuck|yes|yes|Grass|55, 57|%|-|-|-|type1=Normal|type2=Grass}}
{{catch/entry5-2|586S|Sawsbuck|yes|yes|Grass|55, 57|-|%|-|-|type1=Normal|type2=Grass}}
{{catch/entry5-2|586A|Sawsbuck|yes|yes|Grass|55, 57|-|-|%|-|type1=Normal|type2=Grass}}
{{catch/entry5-2|586W|Sawsbuck|yes|yes|Grass|55, 57|-|-|-|%|type1=Normal|type2=Grass}}
{{catch/entry5-2|614|Beartic|yes|yes|Grass|58|-|-|-|%|type1=Ice}}
{{catch/entry5-2|620|Mienshao|yes|yes|Grass|56-58|all=%|type1=Fighting}}
{{catch/entry5-2|621|Druddigon|yes|yes|Grass|58|all=%|type1=Dragon}}
{{catch/div|{{#switch: {{#time: F}}|April|August|December=snow|forest}}|Dark grass}}
{{catch/entry5-2|520|Tranquill|yes|yes|Dark|65|%|%|%|-|type1=Normal|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entry5-2|583|Vanillish|yes|yes|Dark|63|-|-|-|%|type1=Ice}}
{{catch/entry5-2|586|Sawsbuck|yes|yes|Dark|63, 65|%|-|-|-|type1=Normal|type2=Grass}}
{{catch/entry5-2|586S|Sawsbuck|yes|yes|Dark|63, 65|-|%|-|-|type1=Normal|type2=Grass}}
{{catch/entry5-2|586A|Sawsbuck|yes|yes|Dark|63, 65|-|-|%|-|type1=Normal|type2=Grass}}
{{catch/entry5-2|586W|Sawsbuck|yes|yes|Dark|63, 65|-|-|-|%|type1=Normal|type2=Grass}}
{{catch/entry5-2|614|Beartic|yes|yes|Dark|64-65|-|-|-|%|type1=Ice}}
{{catch/entry5-2|620|Mienshao|yes|yes|Dark|64-65|all=%|type1=Fighting}}
{{catch/entry5-2|621|Druddigon|yes|yes|Dark|66|all=%|type1=Dragon}}
{{catch/div|{{#switch: {{#time: F}}|April|August|December=snow|forest}}|Rustling grass}}
{{catch/entry5-2|531|Audino|yes|yes|Rustling|55|%|%|%|%|type1=Normal}}
{{catch/entry5-2|{{#ifexpr: ({{#time: H}} mod 2) = 0|521|521F}}|Unfezant|yes|yes|Rustling||%|%|%|-|type1=Normal|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/div|water|Surfing}}
{{catch/entry5-2|550|Basculin|yes|no|Surf|50, 53, 55|all=%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/entry5-2|550B|Basculin|no|yes|Surf|50, 53, 55|all=%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/div|water|Rippling water}}
{{catch/entry5-2|550B|Basculin|yes|no|Rippling|46|all=%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/entry5-2|550|Basculin|no|yes|Rippling|46|all=%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/div|water|Fishing}}
{{catch/entry5-2|147|Dratini|yes|yes|Fish Super|43-44, 63, 68|all=%|type1=Dragon}}
{{catch/entry5-2|550|Basculin|yes|no|Fish Super|40, 43, 50, 58|all=%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/entry5-2|550B|Basculin|no|yes|Fish Super|40, 43, 50, 58|all=%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/div|water|Rippling water}}
{{catch/entry5-2|550|Basculin|no|yes|Rippling|45, 53|all=%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/entry5-2|550B|Basculin|yes|no|Rippling|45, 53|all=%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/entry5-2|147|Dratini|yes|yes|Rippling|47-49, 54, 57-60|all=%|type1=Dragon}}
{{catch/entry5-2|148|Dragonair|yes|yes|Rippling|50, 53, 59-60, 65|all=%|type1=Dragon}}
{{catch/entry5-2|149|Dragonite|yes|yes|Rippling|67|all=%|type1=Dragon}}
{{Catch/footer|{{#switch: {{#time: F}}|April|August|December=snow|forest}}|seasons=yes}}

====Inside====
{{Catch/header|ruins|4}}
{{catch/div|ruins|1F}}
{{catch/entry5-2|620|Mienshao|yes|yes|1F|55|all=%|type1=Fighting}}
{{catch/entry5-2|621|Druddigon|yes|yes|1F|58|all=%|type1=Dragon}}
{{catch/entry5-2|623|Golurk|yes|yes|1F|55-58|all=%|type1=Ground|type2=Ghost}}
{{catch/div|ruins|2F}}
{{catch/entry5-2|623|Golurk|yes|yes|2F|55-58|all=100%|type1=Ground|type2=Ghost}}
{{catch/div|ruins|Special}}
{{catch/entry5-2|643|Reshiram|no|yes|Special|70|all={{tt|One|Appears after obtaining the Light Stone}}|type1=dragon|type2=fire}}
{{catch/entry5-2|644|Zekrom|yes|no|Special|70|all={{tt|One|Appears after obtaining the Dark Stone}}|type1=dragon|type2=electric}}
{{Catch/footer|ruins|seasons=yes}}

==Trainers==
===Pokémon Black and White===
====Outside====
{{Trainerheader|{{#switch: {{#time: F}}|April|August|December=snow|forest}}}}
{{Trainerentry|Spr BW Ace Trainer M.png|Ace Trainer|Jesse|2160|2|583|Vanillish|♂|36|None|596|Galvantula|♂|36|None|36=リュウヘイ|37=Ryūhei}}
{{Trainerdiv|{{#switch: {{#time: F}}|April|August|December=snow|forest}}}}
{{Trainerentry|Spr BW Ace Trainer F.png|Ace Trainer|Jamie|2100|3|613|Cubchoo|♀|35|None|555|Darmanitan|♀|35|None|542|Leavanny|♀|35|None|36=ヒトミ|37=Hitomi}}
{{Trainerfooter|{{#switch: {{#time: F}}|April|August|December=snow|forest}}|5}}

====4F====
{{Trainerheader|ruins}}
{{Trainerentry|Spr BW Plasma Grunt M.png|Team Plasma Grunt||1360|1|505|Watchog|♂|34|None}}
{{Trainerdiv|ruins}}
{{Trainerentry|Spr BW Plasma Grunt F.png|Team Plasma Grunt||1360|1|510|Liepard|♀|34|None}}
{{Trainerdiv|ruins}}
{{Trainerentry|Spr BW Plasma Grunt M.png|Team Plasma Grunt||1360|1|559|Scraggy|♂|34|None}}
{{Trainerdiv|ruins}}
{{Trainerentry|Spr BW Plasma Grunt F.png|Team Plasma Grunt||1320|2|510|Liepard|♀|33|None|510|Liepard|♀|33|None}}
{{Trainerdiv|ruins}}
{{Trainerentry|Spr BW Plasma Grunt M.png|Team Plasma Grunt||1280|3|505|Watchog|♂|32|None|552|Krokorok|♂|32|None|559|Scraggy|♂|32|None}}
{{Trainerfooter|ruins|5}}

====6F====
{{Trainerheader|ruins}}
{{Trainerentry|Spr BW Plasma Grunt M.png|Team Plasma Grunt||1320|2|505|Watchog|♂|33|None|552|Krokorok|♂|33|None}}
{{Trainerdiv|ruins}}
{{Trainerentry|Spr BW Plasma Grunt M.png|Team Plasma Grunt||1360|1|552|Krokorok|♂|34|None}}
{{Trainerdiv|ruins}}
{{Trainerentry|Spr BW Plasma Grunt F.png|Team Plasma Grunt||1320|2|568|Trubbish|♀|33|None|510|Liepard|♀|33|None}}
{{Trainerdiv|ruins}}
{{Trainerentry|Spr BW Plasma Grunt M.png|Team Plasma Grunt||1360|1|505|Watchog|♂|34|None}}
{{Trainerfooter|ruins|5}}

==Trivia==
* The [[Bicycle|cycling]] and {{m|surf}}ing themes aren't used outside the tower. It is not possible to use the Bicycle inside the tower.

==In other languages==
{{Langtable|color={{locationcolor/light|ruins}}|bordercolor={{locationcolor/dark|ruins}}
|fr=Tour Dragospire
|de=Drachenstiege
|it=Torre Dragospira
|ko=용나선탑
|es=Torre Duodraco}}
{{-}}

{{Unova}} 
{{legendarylocations|unova}} 
{{Project Locations notice}}

[[Category:Black and White locations]]
[[Category:Black 2 and White 2 locations]]
[[Category:Towers]]
[[Category:Ruins]]

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[[fr:Tour Dragospire]]
[[it:Torre Dragospira]]
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[[pl:Dragonspiral Tower]]

Talk:Dragonspiral Tower

2012-12-12T04:44:54Z

Omega Metroid: /* Encounter list might be a bit off */

== Stairs? ==
Why is there a picture of stairs next to the word fishing in the pokemon area? [[User:Gliscorguy54|Gliscorguy54]] 20:37, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
:Table was miscoded. Fixed now. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:07, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

== Crimgan in Winter ==

Are you sure that you can encounter Crimgan outsite the tower in Winter? Because I've been looking at lot now, yet I haven't met it yet. Kumasyun, that is also at 10%, have I met many times now... so maybe you can't meet it at Winter outsite? --[[User:Mattii|Mattii]] 16:37, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

== Question ==

By having a full Party and the PC boxes filled up for Reshiram and Zekrom to be seen there after beating the game, does it mean every single one of the 24 boxes be filled up or just the initial 8 boxes at the start of the game? [[User:Shiramu Kuromu|Shiramu Kuromu]] 22:12, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
:According to [[PC storage system]], having at least one Pokémon in every box will cause the number of boxes to increase until you get to 24, so you can't fill the first eight without sixteen more boxes being added. —[[User:Minimiscience|Minimiscience]] 22:19, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

== When the 'Pedia says "full PC"... ==

...does that mean that EVERY LAST BOX has to be full to encounter Reshiram/Zekrom? '''[[User:SharKing|SharKing]] [[User talk:SharKing|Productions]]''' 03:57, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
:Yes. There has to be absolutely no room for Zekrom/Reshiram in the PC and party. See the section above for a little more detail. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 04:01, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
Every last spot in every box and the party have to be full when facing N. Otherwise you are forced to catch Reshiram/Zekrom before you battle N. Note that at that point you are limited to 8 boxes. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 04:22, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

Well, it's likely because I've imported Celebi and Entei through the Relocator, but the Boxes seem to expand when nearly full; they expanded as far as 24! I'm getting a little dispirited... '''[[User:SharKing|SharKing]] [[User talk:SharKing|Productions]]''' 13:36, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
:Yes, you can have up to 24 boxes (so yours won't expand any further). You get more when you have at least one Pokémon in each of your boxes. See [[Pokémon Storage System]]. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 13:40, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

== Dark Grass (Winter only) ==

Wouldn't it be possible to save the game in the dark grass during Winter and load it during Spring (or Summer or Autumn) ? If so, including the ability to catch non-Winter Sawsbuck, would Vanillish and Beartic be replaced by other things? - [[User:Miraglyth|Miraglyth]] 18:00, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
:No the season does not change until you enter a building and exit again. So that would not be possible. [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 18:04, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
::But does it have any wild Pokemon data for the other seasons? Or Just Kojofu and Mebukijika (A walk through walls code would be needed)? In Gen II, Krabby can be fished up in the unacessible pond in the National Park. '''X'''[[User:Vuvuzela2010|'''Vuvuzela2010''']]'''X''' 14:25, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

==Dragon''spiral'' Tower==
Can we add something about the fact that Dragonspiral Tower has no spiral features while Celestial Tower is shaped like one on the outside and has a spiral staircase?
[[User:Professor Oaf|Professor Oaf]] 07:56, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

== Possible Zelda Reference Trivia ==

At about 15 seconds into this area's music it sounds a lot like the music played in A Link to the Past's Light World dungeons. Do you think this is an intentional reference or just coincidence? [[User:Wexdarn|Wexdarn]] ([[User talk:Wexdarn|talk]]) 11:32, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

I think it's intentional! I picked up on it the first time I ever set foot in the place --[[User:ANinyMouse|Aniny]] ([[User talk:ANinyMouse|talk]]) 01:15, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

== Encounter list might be a bit off ==

I encountered two Lv.30 Deerling (Winter Form)s in the light grass in the Entrance area (the area with the Winter-only dark grass on the high section, but in the lower light grass patch). However, the article says you can only encounter Lv.31-32 Deerlings here. Is my game glitching, or is the article off?

[[User:Omega Metroid|Omega Metroid]] ([[User talk:Omega Metroid|talk]]) 23:19, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
:Levels are added from personal experience, the game guide doesn't list them. If you encounter levels that aren't on our list, please add them. It'll be the lists here that are wrong, not your game. Also, please sign your comments on the same line as the comment, not on a new line. Thanks. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 03:39, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
::Got it. [[User:Omega Metroid|Omega Metroid]] ([[User talk:Omega Metroid|talk]]) 04:44, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

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