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2016-12-14T22:25:08Z

Moretacos: /* Items in Isle Aphun */ new section

== Name Origin ==

Most of this is obvious but I figure we should add it anyway-

Poké Pelago comes from archipelago

Isle Abeens, when said aloud, is identical to "Isle o' Beans" which is what it is, Isle Aphun is the same case as Abeens but it is "Isle o' Fun", and Isle Evelup is also the same but "I'll Level Up" or "Isle Level Up"

--[[User:Celadonkey|Celadonkey]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 15:46, 6 October 2016 (UTC)

== Hot Spring Isle function revealed ==

In this official [https://youtu.be/ZbUtFZ55qew?t=429 video from Nintendo] where Junichi Masuda and Shigeru Ohmori talked about their Top 5 favorite things from Alola, Junichi Masuda revealed that the final unknown island (the hot spring island) can be used to hatch Pokemon eggs. {{unsigned|Aozora210}}

== Items in Isle Aphun ==

Items/rewards available from each mission:

Odd-Shard Hunting
Blue Shard, Green Shard, Red Shard, Yellow Shard, Hard Stone, Revive, Star Piece

Brilliant Stone Hunting
Dawn Stone, Dusk Stone, Fire Stone, Float Stone, Hard Stone, Ice Stone, Leaf Stone, Moon Stone, Oval Stone, Shiny Stone, Sun Stone, Thunder Stone, Water Stone

Rare-Treasure Hunting
Big Pearl, Pearl, Pearl String, Hard Stone, Rare Bone, Big Nugget, Gold Bottle Cap, Comet Shard

Interesting-Item Hunting
Blue Shard, Green Shard, Red Shard, Yellow Shard, Revive, Star Piece, Dawn Stone, Dusk Stone, Fire Stone, Float Stone, Hard Stone, Ice Stone, Leaf Stone, Moon Stone, Oval Stone, Shiny Stone, Sun Stone, Thunder Stone, Water Stone, Big Pearl, Pearl, Pearl String, Rare Bone, Big Nugget, Gold Bottle Cap, Comet Shard

Suicune (Pokémon)

2010-05-24T18:13:21Z

Moretacos: /* NPC appearances */

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jname=スイクン |
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'''Suicune''' (Japanese: '''スイクン''' ''Suicune'') is a {{type2|Water}} [[legendary Pokémon]].

It is not known to evolve into or from any other Pokémon.

It is, along with {{p|Raikou}} and {{p|Entei}}, one of the [[legendary beasts]] created by {{p|Ho-Oh}} after the burning of the [[Burned Tower|Brass Tower]]. Of the three legendary beasts, Suicune is said to represent the rains that quenched the flames of the burning Brass Tower.

{{an|Suicune}} is pursued in the {{pkmn|anime}}, {{game|Crystal}}, and {{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}} by [[Eusine]].

Suicune is the [[version mascot]] of {{game|Crystal}}, appearing on the boxart.

{{mo|Suicune|Suicune|4}} was a major character in the movie ''[[M04|Celebi: Voice of the Forest]]''.

==Biology==
Suicune once resided within the Brass Tower, now renamed Burned Tower. Unfortunately Suicune, Entei, and Raikou perished in the burning of the Brass Tower. Then Ho-Oh used its abilities and revived Suicune and the others. Now Suicune searches for bodies pure water while purifying those contaminated and speeds across the Johto region.

===Physiology===
Suicune is a blue wolf or leopard-like creature, with white diamond-shaped spots and a white underside. Suicune has a purple, cape-like mane that resembles a northern aurora ({{wp|Aurora Borealis}}) or a flowing river and two white streamer-like tails. Strangely, these tails are never seen flowing behind Suicune, a possible effect from the Northern wind blowing from behind it. It has a hexagonal, aquamarine-colored crest on its forehead, red irises, a protrusion on the underside of its chin and small paws. Its paws have a small white oval on their underside.

====Gender differences====
Suicune is a genderless species.

===Special abilities===
Suicune has the power to purify dirty water and can walk across water. Northern winds always seem to blow wherever it shows up. Because Suicune is the embodiment of the northern winds, it is able to learn and use almost every attack with relation to the wind (such as {{m|Gust}}, {{m|Icy Wind}}, {{m|Blizzard}}, and even {{m|Tailwind}}, making it the only non-[[Flying-type]] Pokémon to do so). Suicune, like the other [[Legendary Beasts]], is also extremely fast; interestingly enough, however, it does not learn {{m|ExtremeSpeed}} naturally. It also sports limited mental powers.

As noted in {{game|Crystal}}, Suicune is said to be the closest of the [[Legendary Beasts]] to {{p|Ho-Oh}}. It is also said to have a link to the {{p|Unown}}.

===Behavior===
* In the anime, Suicune has shown a heroic, serious and calm nature to dangerous situations and has appeared just in time to save the main character or [[character of the day]], as shown in ''[[Drifloon on the Wind!]]'' when it races to save Ash and Paige.
* In [[Pokémon Adventures]], it was thought to be searching for a trainer strong enough to master him, but was however looking for allies in the battle against the [[Masked Man]] to save its creator, {{p|Ho-Oh}}.
* It's sometimes seen "howling" off sides of cliffs.

===Habitat===
[[Image:Grassland.gif|right|frame|{{DL|List of Pokémon by habitat|Grassland Pokémon}}]]
Since Suicune is a member of the Legendary Beast Trio, Suicune races around the land. Some say it searches for a pure reservoir. Many speculate that Suicune and the rest of the Legendary Beasts are indeed not unique species because in ''[[M04|Celebi: Voice of the Forest]]'', [[Professor Oak]] speaks as if the Suicune in question was a specific Pokémon of that species.

===Diet===
{{main|Pokémon food}}

==In the anime==
[[Image:For Ho-oh the Bells Toll.jpg|thumb|right|Suicune in the anime]]
===Major appearances===
====[[Suicune (anime)]]====
Its first appearance is in the episode ''[[EP117|Don't Touch That 'dile]]'' when {{Ash}}, {{an|Misty}}, and {{an|Brock}} spot Suicune in the middle of a lake near [[New Bark Town]]. When it spots the group, it runs off.

Its first significant appearance is in the episode ''[[EP227|For Ho-Oh the Bells Toll]]'', where it appeared in [[Ecruteak City]] after one of the [[Clear Bells|Crystal Bells]] from the [[Bell Tower]] was destroyed.

====[[Suicune (movie 4)]]====
The first lengthy appearance of Suicune is in ''[[M04|Celebi: Voice of the Forest]]''. In the course of the movie, it demonstrated its ability to purify water, as well as doing battle with Dark {{mov|Celebi|Celebi|4}}.

====Other====
[[File:Suicune anime.png|thumb|right|Suicune in Ruler of Illusions: Zoroark]]
Suicune also appears in [[Sinnoh]] in ''[[DP028|Drifloon on the Wind!]]''. It was a friend to two young [[Nurse Joy|Joys]] named [[Marnie and Paige]]. Suicune saved {{Ash}} and Paige's lives.

Suicune will be appearing alongside {{p|Celebi}} and the other members of its [[Legendary beasts|trio]] in the thirteenth Pokémon movie, [[M13|Ruler of Illusions: Zoroark]]. It is currently unknown what bearing its role will have on the plot.

===Minor appearances===
Suicune also has a small cameo at the opening of ''[[M12|Arceus and the Jewel of Life]]''.

===Pokédex entries===
{{Animedexheader|Sinnoh}}
{{Animedexbody|DP028|Suicune|Ash's Pokédex|Suicune, the Aurora Pokémon. It travels the [[Pokémon world|world]] and and purifies water wherever it goes, sailing on the North Wind.}}
{{Animedexfooter/Pokémon|''Diamond & Pearl''|Sinnoh}}

==In the manga==
===[[Pokémon Adventures]]===
[[File:PS151.png|thumb|right|Suicune in Pokémon Adventures]]
Suicune was awakened by {{adv|Yellow}} along with its two counterparts, and the three raced around [[Kanto]] and [[Johto]] looking for {{pkmn|Trainer}}s to help them defeat the [[Masked Man]] to free {{p|Ho-Oh}}. Suicune, in particular, personally challenges nearly every single [[Gym Leader]] in the two [[region]]s. During its travels, it encounters both [[Eusine]] and {{adv|Crystal}}, both of which become obsessed with capturing it. Crystal acquires the [[Clear Bell|Crystal Bell]], but is still unable to capture Suicune. She has her confidence shattered by this and has to retreat back to her old training grounds to regain her confidence. Suicune later chooses [[Misty]] as its partner, but then pairs up with Crystal anyway after Misty becomes injured.

Suicune can communicate with {{p|Raikou}} and {{p|Entei}} {{m|Extrasensory|telepathically}}.

==In the TCG==
{{main|Suicune (TCG)}}

==Other appearances==
[[Image:Suicune Brawl.jpg|right|thumb|Suicune in [[Super Smash Bros. Brawl]]]]
===[[Super Smash Bros. Melee]]/[[Super Smash Bros. Brawl|Brawl]]===
When released from a [[Poké Ball]], Suicune unleashes a blast of {{m|Icy Wind}} that causes high levels of damage. Suicune returns in Brawl but with a different [[move|attack]], {{m|Aurora Beam}}.

==Game data==
===NPC appearances===
{{game|Crystal}}: It is possible to see Suicune multiple times on the overworld before the actual battle in [[Bell Tower]]. In these occasions, it will always hop away on being spotted.

{{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}}: As in Crystal, Suicune will roam Johto and Kanto before finally battling the player. After being first seen in the [[Burned Tower]], it runs to [[Cianwood City]], [[Mt. Mortar]], [[Vermilion Harbor]], and [[Route 14]] before giving itself up at the end of [[Route 25]] after defeating [[Misty]]. If it gets defeated or you flee from battle, Suicune can be found in the Burned Tower after defeating the Elite Four again.

===Pokédex entries===
{{Dex
|type=water
|gen=2
|golddex=Said to be the reincarnation of north winds, it can instantly purify filthy, murky water.
|silverdex=This Pokémon races across the land. It is said that north winds will somehow blow whenever it appears.
|crystaldex=This divine Pokémon blows around the world, always in search of a pure reservoir.
|rubydex=Suicune embodies the compassion of a pure spring of water. It runs across the land with gracefulness. This Pokémon has the power to purify dirty water.
|sapphiredex=Suicune embodies the compassion of a pure spring of water. It runs across the land with gracefulness. This Pokémon has the power to purify dirty water.
|emeralddex=Suicune embodies the compassion of a pure spring of water. It runs across the land with gliding elegance. It has the power to purify dirty water.
|firereddex=This Pokémon races across the land. It is said that north winds will somehow blow whenever it appears.
|leafgreendex=Said to be the reincarnation of north winds, it can instantly purify filthy, murky water.
|stadium2dex=Said to be the reincarnation of north winds, it can instantly purify filthy, murky water.
|diamonddex=It travels across the world to purify polluted water. It moves together with the north wind.
|pearldex=It travels around the world to purify fouled water. It dashes away with the north wind.
|platinumdex=It travels across the world to purify polluted water. It moves together with the north wind.
|heartgolddex=Said to be the reincarnation of north winds, it can instantly purify filthy, murky water.
|soulsilverdex=This Pokémon races across the land. It is said that north winds will somehow blow whenever it appears.
|}}

===Game locations===
{{Availability|
type=water |
gen=2 |
gsrarity=One |
gsarea={{pkmn2|Roaming}} [[Johto]] |
crarity=One |
carea=[[Bell Tower]] |
gen3ex=frlg|
frlgrarity=One |
frlgarea={{pkmn2|Roaming}} [[Kanto]] (with {{p|Charmander}} as {{pkmn2|starter}}) |
colorarity=One |
coloarea=[[The Under]] |
coloshadow=yes |
gen4ex=hgss |
hgssrarity=One |
hgssarea=[[Route 25]] [[Burned Tower]]{{tt|*|Only appears if not caught at Route 25}}||
palarea=Mountain |
}}
====In side games====
{{SidegameAvail
|type=water
|trozei=Random Agent Cards [[Mr. Who's Den]]
|md=[[Northwind Field]] (30F)
|ranger=[[Fiore Temple]]
|md2=[[Final Maze]] (B29F)
|md3=[[Treacherous Waters]] (B10F-B19F; appears on random floor after accepting challenge letter)
|ranger3=[[Canal Ruins]] [[Talga's House]]
}}

====In events====
{{eventAvail/h|type=Water}}
{{eventAvail|M13|13th Movie Premiere|Japan|2010|30}}
|}

===Held items===
{{HeldItems|type=water
|event1=Rowap Berry|event1type=Berry|event1rar=100
}}

===Stats===
====Base stats====
{{BaseStats|
type=water|
HP= 100 |
Attack= 75 |
Defense=115 |
SpAtk= 90 |
SpDef= 115 |
Speed= 85 }}

====Pokéathlon stats====
{{Pokéthlon
|type=Water
|Speed=4
|SpeedMax=5
|Power=3
|PowerMax=4
|Technique=4
|TechniqueMax=5
|Stamina=3
|StaminaMax=3
|Jump=4
|JumpMax=4
}}

===Type effectiveness===
{{DP Type effectiveness|
type1=Water|
Normal= 100 |
Fighting=100 |
Flying= 100 |
Poison= 100 |
Ground= 100 |
Rock= 100 |
Bug= 100 |
Ghost= 100 |
Steel= 50 |

Fire= 50 |
Water= 50 |
Grass= 200 |
Electric=200 |
Psychic= 100 |
Ice= 50 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 100 }}

===Learnset===
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====
{{movelist|water|water|4|2|Suicune}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Bite|Dark|Physical|60|100|25|Tough|3}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Leer|Normal|Status|—|100|30|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|8|BubbleBeam|Water|Special|65|100|25|Beauty|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|15|Rain Dance|Water|Status|—|—|5|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|22|Gust|Flying|Special|40|100|35|Smart|3}}
{{mlentry4|29|Aurora Beam|Ice|Special|65|100|20|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|36|Mist|Ice|Status|—|—|30|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|43|Mirror Coat|Psychic|Special|—|100|20|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|50|Ice Fang|Ice|Physical|65|95|15|Cool|3}}
{{mlentry4|57|Tailwind|Flying|Status|—|—|30|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|64|Extrasensory|Psychic|Special|80|100|30|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|71|Hydro Pump|Water|Special|120|80|5|Beauty|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|78|Calm Mind|Psychic|Status|—|—|20|Smart|0}}
{{mlentry4|85|Blizzard|Ice|Special|120|70|5|Beauty|2|||PtHGSS}}
{{movelist/note|3|water}}

====By [[TM]]/[[HM]]====
{{movelisttm|water|water|4|2|Suicune}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM03]]|Water Pulse|Water|Special|60|100|20|Beauty|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM04]]|Calm Mind|Psychic|Status|—|—|20|Smart|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM05]]|Roar|Normal|Status|—|100|20|Cool|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM06]]|Toxic|Poison|Status|—|85|10|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM07]]|Hail|Ice|Status|—|—|10|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM11]]|Sunny Day|Fire|Status|—|—|5|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM13]]|Ice Beam|Ice|Special|95|100|10|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM14]]|Blizzard|Ice|Special|120|70|5|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM15]]|Hyper Beam|Normal|Special|150|90|5|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM17]]|Protect|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM18]]|Rain Dance|Water|Status|—|—|5|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM21]]|Frustration|Normal|Physical|—|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM23]]|Iron Tail|Steel|Physical|100|75|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM27]]|Return|Normal|Physical|—|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM28]]|Dig|Ground|Physical|80|100|10|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM30]]|Shadow Ball|Ghost|Special|80|100|15|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM32]]|Double Team|Normal|Status|—|—|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM33]]|Reflect|Psychic|Status|—|—|20|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM37]]|Sandstorm|Rock|Status|—|—|10|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM42]]|Facade|Normal|Physical|70|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM43]]|Secret Power|Normal|Physical|70|100|20|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM44]]|Rest|Psychic|Status|—|—|10|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM55]]|Brine|Water|Special|65|100|10|Smart|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM58]]|Endure|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM68]]|Giga Impact|Normal|Physical|150|90|15|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM72]]|Avalanche|Ice|Physical|60|100|10|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM77]]|Psych Up|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Smart|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM82]]|Sleep Talk|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Cute|3}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM83]]|Natural Gift|Normal|Physical|—|100|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM87]]|Swagger|Normal|Status|—|90|15|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM90]]|Substitute|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM01]]|Cut|Normal|Physical|50|95|30|Cool|3}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM03]]|Surf|Water|Special|95|100|15|Beauty|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM05]]|Whirlpool|Water|Special|15|70|15|Beauty|0||'''|HGSS}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM06]]|Rock Smash|Fighting|Physical|40|100|15|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM07]]|Waterfall|Water|Physical|80|100|15|Tough|3||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM08]]|Rock Climb|Normal|Physical|90|85|20|Cool|2}}
{{movelist/note|4|water}}

====By breeding====
None.

====By [[Move tutor|tutoring]]====
{{tutor|water|water|4|2|Suicune}}
{{mtentry4|Dive|Water|Physical|80|100|10|Beauty|1||'''|no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Headbutt|Normal|Physical|70|100|15|Tough|3|||no|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Icy Wind|Ice|Special|55|95|15|Beauty|2|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Iron Head|Steel|Physical|80|100|15|Tough|2|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Mud-Slap|Ground|Special|20|100|10|Cute|3|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Ominous Wind|Ghost|Special|60|100|5|Smart|0|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Signal Beam|Bug|Special|75|100|15|Beauty|2|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Snore|Normal|Special|40|100|15|Cute|3|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Swift|Normal|Special|60|—|20|Cool|2|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Tailwind|Flying|Status|—|—|30|Smart|2|||no|no|yes}}
{{tutor/note|4|water}}

====By {{pkmn2|event}}s====
{{movelistspecial|water|water|4|2|Suicune}}
{{mlentry4|[[M13|13th Movie Premiere]] {{pkmn2|Event}}|Sheer Cold|Ice|Special|—|30|5|Beauty|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[M13|13th Movie Premiere]] {{pkmn2|Event}}|Air Slash|Flying|Special|75|95|20|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[M13|13th Movie Premiere]] {{pkmn2|Event}}|Aqua Ring|Water|Status|—|—|20|Beauty|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[M13|13th Movie Premiere]] {{pkmn2|Event}}|ExtremeSpeed|Normal|Physical|80|100|5|Cool|2}}
{{movelist/note|4|water}}

====Special moves====
{{Shadow moves|245|40|Shadow Rush|--|--|--|Rain Dance|Water|Leer|Normal|Gust|Flying|Surf|Water|colo|water}}

===Side game data===
{{Sidegame|
type=water |
ndex=245 |
Trozei=yes |
rarity=Rare |
Dungeon=yes |
body=1 |
rate=0.1 |
area=Sacred Field |
P1=Let us go! The north wind will be our ally! |
P2=This is serious... Half my HP has been expended already... |
P3=This is it... The power of the north wind fails to reach me... |
PL=I've leveled up! May the north wind empower me! |
Ranger=yes |
group=Water |
assist=Water |
field=Soak |
fieldpower=3 |
loop=17 |
MinEXP=550 |
MaxEXP=600 |
browser=Suicune moves so fast it leaves images of itself. Its real form is said to be unseen. |
Dungeon2=yes |
body2=2 |
rate2=6.4 |
iq=D |
Ranger3=yes |
group3=Water |
assist3=Water |
field3=None |
field3power=- |
}}

===Evolution===
{{evobox
|sprite1=245
|name1=Suicune
|type1-1=Water}}

===Sprites===
{{Sprite|
type=water|
gen=2|
gender=none|
ndex=245|
name=Suicune|
}}

==Trivia==

* Suicune is the only pure {{type2|Water}} Pokémon to learn {{m|Blizzard}} via level-up.
* Suicune is the only member of the legendary beast trio that does not require the [[Mystery Part and Secret Slab|Mystery Part or Secret Slab]] to appear to the player in [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time and Explorers of Darkness]] as items cannot be taken into the [[Final Maze]].
* Suicune's moveset was changed between {{2v|Gold|Silver|s}} and {{v|Crystal}} to remove {{m|Roar}}, as it became a stationary Pokémon. This change carried over into later games, making Suicune the only one of [[Legendary beasts|the roaming trio]] that cannot Roar its opponent away in {{2v2|FireRed|LeafGreen}}. It returned to its Crystal status as a stationary Pokémon in {{2v2|HeartGold|SoulSilver}}.
* Although Suicune is part of Johto's [[legendary trio]], it is battled in Kanto in {{2v2|HeartGold|SoulSilver}}. {{p|Moltres}} has a similar situation, but in reverse.
* Suicune can be rebattled at the [[Burned Tower]] if it is knocked out or fled from in [[Route 25]].

===Origin===
Suicune resembles a {{wp|maned wolf}}, or {{wp|leopard}} in its body type as well as some of its habits, or a {{wp|cheetah}} in the way it runs. Its ability to purify water is also reminiscent of a {{wp|unicorn}}. Suicune may also resemble {{wp|Fujin}}, the Shinto god of wind, who wears leopard skin. A Pokémon that represents the wind and rain, Suicune may also be based on Anitong Tabo, who according to the {{wp|Deities of Philippine mythology|Philippine mythology}}, was the goddess of winds and rains.

====Name origin====
Suicune's name is probably based off its Japanese name, Suikun. Suikun is likely a combination of 水 ''sui'', water, and 君 ''kun'', monarch. However, the [[Pokémon Crystal Version|game title]] it is the mascot of suggests that it may be derived from 水晶 ''suishō'', crystal.

==In other languages==
*[[List of German Pokémon names|German]]: Suicune
*[[List of French Pokémon names|French]]: Suicune
*[[List of Korean Pokémon names|Korean]]: 스이쿤 ''Suikun''
*[[List of Chinese Pokémon names|Chinese (Taiwan)]]: 水君 ''Shuǐ Jūn'' - From its Japanese name. Literally means "Water monarch".

==Related articles==
* [[Suicune (movie 4)]]
* [[Suicune (anime)]]
* [[Legendary beasts]]

==External links==

==Notes==
{{Legendary Pokémon}}
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{{PokémonPrevNext | prev=Entei | next=Larvitar|type=water|| prevnum=244| nextnum=246}}
{{Project Pokédex notice}}
[[Category:Legendary Pokémon]]
[[Category:Version mascots]]
[[Category:Legendary Trio Pokémon]]
[[Category:Legendary Pokémon obtainable before the Elite Four]]
[[Category:Kanto Legendary Pokémon]]
[[Category:Johto Legendary Pokémon]]
[[Category:Orre Legendary Pokémon]]
[[Category:Roaming Pokémon]]

[[pl:Suicune]]

[[de:Suicune]]
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[[fr:Suicune]]
[[ja:スイクン]]
[[pt:Suicune (pokémon)]]

Talk:Suicune (Pokémon)

2010-05-24T06:11:59Z

Moretacos: /* Finding Suicune in HGSS */

I argue that the "kun" in Suikun is in fact the kanji for "river." It's ON-reading is also "kun."

Gaa, the etymology they gave makes no sense at all. That said, the two major words for river, 川 and 河, do not have ''kun'' as a possible reading:
* 川
** '''sen'''
** ''kawa''
** ''ka'' (name-reading)
** ''ko'' (name-reading)
** ''sawa'' (name-reading)
* 河
** '''ka'''
** ''kawa''
** ''kaQ'' (name-reading)
** ''ko'' (name-reading)
** ''kō'' (name-reading)
That said... there may be rarer readings not in the dictionary, and less common words for river. I note a very similar looking character is in fact read ''kun'', 訓 -- instruction. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]][[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]] 08:19, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Why is this at "Suicune (Pokémon)"? Isn't it established that this is a Pokemon? [[User:WhisperToMe|WhisperToMe]] 19:46, 14 January 2006 (CST)
:Have you, perchance, not seen [[Bulbasaur (Pokémon)]] or [[Ivysaur (Pokémon)]] and so-on? This is the way things are done here. Get used to it. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]][[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]] 22:01, 14 January 2006 (CST)

== Template ==

Shouldn't this be listed in the Legendary Pokémon template as a Version mascot, as well as a member of a Legendary trio? I realize it may seem odd to have it listed twice in the table, but it seems just as odd not to be consistent and list it under Version mascots, since it is one, after all. [[User:Dansiman|Dansiman]] 10:54, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

== Trivia? ==

I don't understand the trivia... it says shiny has a blue head piece in crystal? but I see it's brownish purple. maybe it is the normal coloration, not the shiny.
:No, it says that it has a purple headpeice in Gold and Silver. It was CHANGED in Crystal. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 21:05, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

== Individual Values? ==

My brother has been playing LeafGreen for a while and he saved the game just BEFORE handling the sapphire to Celio (so Suicune's Nature and IVs can be random). He has caught Suicune many times now and it has different natures BUT its IVs are always 0, and they're always the same. Anyone can explain why does this happen? Or Suicune's IVs will always be 0? '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 17:47, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

== Picture? ==

Is there a reason for using the ranger artwork? I don't have a problem with it but I just think that the pictures for the pokédex entrys should all be by Ken Sugimori, save for arceus for obvious reasons.[[User:Rucario64|Rucario]][[User Talk:Rucario64|64]] 00:39, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
:Somehow it was decided (I think?) that Bulbapedia should use the most recent artwork for monsters. Eh. See [[Talk:Celebi (Pokémon)#Artwork|Talk:Celebi (Pokémon)]]. [[User:IIMarckus|IIMarckus]] 02:15, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

== Edit request ==

→Pokedex entries
:<nowiki>|heartgolddex=Said to be the reincarnation of north winds, it can instantly purify filthy, murky water.</nowiki>
♥ [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 17:49, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

== Finding Suicune in HGSS ==

Thought this should be included somewhere, since it took me a while to track down suicune in it's different locations:
After it runs from Burnt Tower, it's found next to a house at the north of Cianwood (when Eusine battles you). It can then be found near the middle entrance to Mt Mortar. Then it's on the pathway (dock) leading to the SS Aqua in Viridian, and finally on route 14, before it appears on route 25 (next to Bill's house) where it can be battled and caught. --[[User:Oatzy|Oatzy]] 13:00, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
:Yes... This list should be incorperated. [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK]] [[Mudkip (Pokémon)|Leiks]] [[Lucario (Pokémon)|Lucario]] [[User talk:SpecialK|and the]] [[User:Missingno. Master/Celebi Glitch|Celebi Glitch]] 10:37, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
::Done. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 11:30, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

Also, it can be found in the Burnt Tower AFTER defeating the Elite Four (according to serebii.net I dont know if this is true so it would be great if someone would confirm) --[[User:Moretacos|Moretacos]] 06:11, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Battle Frontier (Generation IV)

2010-05-14T02:19:37Z

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==Battle Arcade Game Board Pictures==

It would be nice to see what the effect's pictures are. Can someone upload them. that would help greatly. Thanks!! --[[User:Moretacos|Moretacos]] 02:19, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

==Previous discussion==
* [[/Sinnoh|Sinnoh]] - pre-merge discussion while this page was '''Battle Frontier (Sinnoh)'''
* [[/Johto|Johto]] - pre-merge discussion from '''Battle Frontier (Johto)''' (including the vote to merge)

== Map Picture of where the Frontier is in Johto ==

the picture to side where it says Location in Sinnoh and Johto is untrue, it only shows its location in Sinnoh we that line changed until we have a map picture of the location in Johto. --DSDark 20:52, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

== Battle Frontier artwork ==

The artwork of the Battle Frontier appears twice in this article, and they state two different illustrators.
Which one is the real illustrator, and is it necessary to have two? --[[User:Angela-Samshi|Angela-Samshi]] 20:40, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
:It's not necessary. And the pic is by [[Midori Harada]]. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:43, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

== Battle Hall Fans ==

Just wondering if anyone else playing the main male character in Platinum has Serena. The article says that guys get Winston. Has someone got the genders the wrong way around?--[[User:Dion24|D i]] [[Special:Contributions/Dion24|o n]] [[User talk:Dion24|2 4]] 04:28, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

== something's up ==

for some reason, even after defeating 21 trainers in the battle arcade i didn't get a silver print or get challenged by the arcade brain. why?--[[User:Fern 24|Fern]] [[User talk:Fern 24|24]] 15:45, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
:Did you battle them without stoping? if not, she won't challenge you. [[User:ShinyPikachu|Shiny]] [[User:ShinyPikachu|'''Pika''']] 23:10, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
::Actually, it doesn't matter if you stop. You can stop and take a rest. It matters if you won them consecutively, as in did you win them in a row or did you lose some in between? [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 23:14, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

== shnies in the factory ==

today i went to challenge the battle factory, defeated this one trainer who had a regular cubone. i decided that i was going to trade for it but i had to rest because i had to go somewhere. i came back, traded for the cubone and found out it was SHINY! so does this mean that the factory gives you different pokemon from those that you battled? heres the battle video number for one of the battles i used the cubone: 78-50402-72221. i lost though so i dont have the cubone any more : ( [[User:Fudgenuggets|Fudgenuggets]] 07:18, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

Pokémon can appear Shiny in the Battle Frontier as well as in the wild, so you aren't very lucky you saw one there. Your Cubone was shiny because when you continued from your Save, the RNG (Random Number Generator) made the [[Cubone (Pokémon)|Cubone]] shiny. [[User:Shinytwo|Shinytwo]] 16:44, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

:I don't see how he's not lucky, that seems very lucky to me, how many random shinies do you see? [[User:Malake256|Malake256]] 19:07, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
::Shinies are rare, nothing more. They're not stronger or anything. And yes, you can find them in the Battle Frontier. It's rare, but it happens. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 19:14, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

== Stat Judge Needs More Info ==

(I actually edited the page, but changed it back after I realized this was a Featured Article...)

The Stat Judge section is dangerously empty. He is extremely useful for breeding for IVs, and the section should have a table of the things he says - maybe even a page of his own. This is the only mention of him. Here's what the Platinum Player's Guide says (so far, it seems correct).

{|
|'''Overall Stats'''
|'''Highest Stat'''
|-
|Decent
|Rather Decent
|-
|Above Average
|Very Good
|-
|Outstanding
|Fantastic
|-
|Relatively Superior
|Can't Be Better
|}

Sorry, I'm a newb to editing Bulbapedia. Does my name get attached to this??

--[[User:Dsaerno]]

Actually, If the highest stats have the same number, the stats judge will say them according to this order: HP, Atk, Def, Sp.Atk, Sp.Def and Spe. E.g. 31 IVs in Atk and Speed would mean that he would say "It can't be better" for Atk first then Spe second, also by the looks of it, the stats judge seems to be a legit checker considering the fact that a hacked "flawless" Pokemon will have an outstanding rating but the stats judge will only say "It can't be better" for one stat, not all of them, whereas for a legit Pokemon, that stats judge will actually mention all of them.
--[[User:Animecheck|Animecheck]] 06:09, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

== Battle Factory etc.. in Diamond? ==

Hi there. 
I'm looking for the Battle Factory in Diamond, however I can only see the Battle Tower in the Battle Park.. 
Is the Battle Factory actually in Diamond, or is it Platinum only? 
Cheers. 
[[User:Smashman|Smashman]] 12:33, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
:This isn't the place to ask those type of questions, also please read the article. [[User:.insomniac.|insomniac]]
::It seems like a perfectly good place to ask.. I also read the article, it didn't seem clear to me. [[User:Smashman|Smashman]] 10:33, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
:::It's only in Platinum.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Ho-Oh (Pokémon)|orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Lugia (Pokémon)|ire]] 10:57, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
::::I don't believe this "it didn't seem clear". It says right at the top of the article. "'''The Battle Frontier is a special post-league area featured in the Generation IV games, ''Pokémon Platinum'' and ''HeartGold and SoulSilver''.'''" -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 11:50, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::I see. Thanks. Seems a shame.. [[User:Smashman|Smashman]] 12:58, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

== Battle Arcade error? ==
Is there any reason to actually believe the BP spaces on the board allow you to skip battles? I just did 28 rounds of Battle Arcade today and every time I hit the BP space, I still had to battle. --[[User:The Great Butler|The Great Butler]] 03:59, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

== Gaining fans ==

In Battle Hall, what fans are gained in HGSS? [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 01:07, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

== BP ==

For amount of BP gained, could we say "Plenty" instead of "Lots." It just sounds more educated. [[User:Malake256|WeavilePwns]] 00:29, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
: "Plenty" connotes "enough". Ambiguity is the poor man's eloquence. --[[User:PLA|PLA]] 16:40, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

== Shedinja in Battle Arcade ==

If you're in the Battle Arcade with a Shedinja, and hit the button which causes your team to lose some HP, will Shedinja faint before it is sent out, or right after? [[User:Shinytwo|Shinytwo]] 20:15, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

:That event lowers HP by 20%. 20% of 1HP is less than 1HP, so Shedinja shouldn't lose anything at all. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 23:38, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

== Tauros in Battle Tower ==

Just tried to enter Johto Battle Tower with Tauros, was notified it was banned. No info here, looking for confirmation.
[[User:CommanderRook|CommanderRook]] 19:09, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

:You probably had a repeated item on it. You can't use the same item on more than one Pokemon

Talk:Mass outbreak

2010-04-26T17:46:29Z

Moretacos: /* Intro */

I'm under the impression that people in the same group will have swarms on the same day.
Can anyone confirm this?
:Well, um, one of my friends and I had superheavy rain on {{rt|212}} on the same day, and we're in the same group. '''[[User:TTEchidna|TTE]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 13:14, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
::Superheavy rain? Same group? What do you mean? [[Image:Ani164MS.gif]][[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny]][[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|?]][[Special:Contributions/Shiny Noctowl|!]] 13:17, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
::: Yes, people in the same group experience the same Swarms. We've taken advantage of this several time to let each other know if we run into a swarm the other might be interested in. --[[User:Phred|Phred]] 04:01, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

I was going crazy looking for something that would tell me how to get the swarms in HeartGold and SoulSilver... Finally, I went to Serebii.net where it said that by going to Pokemon Talk radio channel it would tell me what swarms were happening and where. Is this correct? shouldn't it have this info on here..?--[[User:Moretacos|Moretacos]] 17:46, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

== Okay, this is enough... ==

Is Tangela a swarmer or not? Is Tropius in the Safari Zone or not? Seriously. '''[[User:TTEchidna|TTE]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 13:15, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
:No they aren't. Check [http://veekun.com veekun]. Veekun's data is taken straight from the games, so it's guaranteed to be correct. [[Image:Ani164MS.gif]][[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny]][[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|?]][[Special:Contributions/Shiny Noctowl|!]] 13:17, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

== Um... ==

Shouldn't this article also cover swarming in the GSC games and the RSE games as well? Because I distinctly remember getting calls of certain Pokémon from certain people in GSC and seeing news coverages in RSE. - PDL

:Yeah, I think the same... swarms DO exist in previous games, althought not in the same way they do in D/P. My cousin, who has Sapphire mixed records with my brother (who has Ruby) and then a TV report was saying that there was a {{p|Seedot}} swarm on {{rt|114}}, which obviously was strange, cause Seedot can't be caught in Sapphire. I think there should be info added on this too. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 20:28, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

::Actually, this happened to me too. You're the first one, excluding me of course, who I know having a Seedot swarm. This happened to me, though, without any recent link cable activity. [[User:UltimateSephiroth|UltimateSephiroth]] 12:35, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

:::Should this article have the information on swarms from HGSS? --DSDark 15:49, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
::::Yes, of course it should. If you have the information put it on the page. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:04, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

== Mass Outbreak ==

Hayley refers to Swarms as a "Mass Outbreak". Should the article be moved to this? -[[User:Sketchies|Sketchies]] 12:44, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

:My official player's guide also refers to this as "Mass Outbreak". ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 18:20, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
::Ought it be capitalized... like that? The o's not very important... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:18, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
:::I dunno, tell GameFreak/Nintendo/whoever. It's not like we made up the capitalization.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 07:17, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

== Wrong! ==

It says that you can only find Dunsparce lv 16 but i recently captured one on platinum that was a lv 18! Is this a typo?--[[User:Sorou|sorou]] 01:03, 30 December 2009 (UTC) I've caught 4 so far, 2 male and 2 female, all lv 18!!!--[[User:Sorou|sorou]] 01:03, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

Talk:EP036

2010-04-22T21:46:47Z

Moretacos: /* Intro */

weren't jessie and James from sunny town.I do recall them saying something about bring back old memeories.
And the members of the bike gang call them little jess and little james i recall.Ive seen somewhere that Jessie and james
were born in sunny town.--[[User:Solidstate|Solid!]] 09:32, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

:The "old memories" were very likely of their time in that bike gang. Just because that gang's been known to terrorize [[Sunny Town]] doesn't prove a single one of its members, past or presnet, actually came from there. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 16:57, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

:Wasn't it "Big Jess" and "Little Jim" or at least thats what i kept hearing. --[[User:Moretacos|Moretacos]] 21:45, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

Talk:EP036

2010-04-22T21:45:32Z

Moretacos: /* Intro */

weren't jessie and James from sunny town.I do recall them saying something about bring back old memeories.
And the members of the bike gang call them little jess and little james i recall.Ive seen somewhere that Jessie and james
were born in sunny town.--[[User:Solidstate|Solid!]] 09:32, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

:The "old memories" were very likely of their time in that bike gang. Just because that gang's been known to terrorize [[Sunny Town]] doesn't prove a single one of its members, past or presnet, actually came from there. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 16:57, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

Wasn't it "Big Jess" and "Little Jim" or at least thats what i kept hearing. --[[User:Moretacos|Moretacos]] 21:45, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Weedle (Pokémon)

2010-01-20T00:32:09Z

Moretacos: /* Intro */

Just so you all know, Weedle's platinum sprite is different than his DP sprite.

http://ds.rothion.com/images/plat/weedle.png
--[[User:WeedleMaster|WeedleMaster]] 04:13, 18 November 2009 (UTC)User:WeedleMaster

----Weedle's "feet" in Generation I are on its back instead of the Bottom in the artwork. --[[User:Moretacos|Moretacos]] 00:31, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Weedle (Pokémon)

2010-01-20T00:31:38Z

Moretacos: /* Intro */

Just so you all know, Weedle's platinum sprite is different than his DP sprite.

http://ds.rothion.com/images/plat/weedle.png
--[[User:WeedleMaster|WeedleMaster]] 04:13, 18 November 2009 (UTC)User:WeedleMaster

----Weedle's "feet" in Generation I are on its back instead of the Bottom. --[[User:Moretacos|Moretacos]] 00:31, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Pikachu (Pokémon)

2010-01-17T22:30:26Z

Moretacos: /* Soothe Bell? */

==Pika Pika ==

Dude, Pikachu looks *nothing* like a pika. Seriously.

It does in pictures I saw in National Geographic...[[User:LedianX|LedianX]] 05:46, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Not in any pictures I've ever seen. Pikas look more like nutrias to me.

I don't now what nutrias are, but I ''do'' know that Pikachu looks like a rabbit.

Regarding the name origin, I've been told that pikapika is an "expression for the brightness of gold", not simply just meaning sparkle. Can someone confirm? --[[User:Archaic|Archaic]] 13:26, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

It is a very broad sound symbolism for sparkle - from ''daiya-ga pikapika hikaru'' (diamonds sparkle) to ''pikapika-no kagu'' (well-polished furniture), from ''hoshi-ga pikapika hikaru'' (stars twinkle) to ''pikapika-no ichinensei'' (not even going to try to figure this one out). I suppose it wouldn't be too far of a stretch to say "gold shines" using ''pikapika''. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]][[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]] 14:48, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

''pikapika-no ichinensei''. Gah, I never wanted to hear that again. One company uses that almost like a motto in every one of their rather annoying ads. They're probably in some of the old encodes I did. --[[User:Archaic|Archaic]] 01:13, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Is there any ''official'' source that states that its name comes from pikapika and not from the pika? [[Image:Ani164MS.gif]][[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny]][[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Shiny Noctowl|Contribs]][[Image:Ani408MS.gif]][[Image:Ani410MS.gif]] 00:33, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Honestly, Pikachu has the best name in my opinion, as it can have obvious meanings in both Japanese and English. As stated, Japanese has pikapika (sparkle) + chuchu (squeak). PLUS Pika (animal related to rabbit) and chu being homophonous to the English word "chew", like gnaw, as a rodent does. ^^ Official evidence or no, you have to admit it'd be some coincidence if the world's most popular Pokémon just happened to be the only one with such a perfectly suited name, neh? :3 [[User:Heart of Thorns|Heart of Thorns]] 23:34, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

==Location Table==

Pleae give feedback to the [[Bulbapedia:Project Pokédex]] discussion. [[User:Fabu-Vinny|Fabu-Vinny]] 12:49, 22 May 2005 (UTC)

== Bio ==

I added a whole Biology section! Feedback, please. [[User:Supermariorobot|Supermariorobot]] 05:00, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
: Try not to write as if the subject were in the real world - comparisons to real domestic pets are simply unnecessary; instead, compare to other Pokémon. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]][[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]] 08:10, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

==Kanto Native?==
I noticed that in the games, Pikachu can only be found "in the wild" in the Kanto Region. In GSC, Pikachu was only on Route 2 in Kanto, in RSE, it was only in the Safari Zone, which contained only "imported" Pokemon (that is, no Generation III Pokemon), and in DP, it's only in the Trophy Garden, a place that's basically confirmed to be importing Pokemon from other regions.

These "coincidences" lead me to believe that Pikachu is native to the Kanto Region, and its appearance everywhere else is due to humans bringing them to other locals.

Ignoring anamonlies like Pokemon Ranger, would it be a stretch to say that Pikachu are normally found only in Kanto as a piece of Trivia?--[[User:PikamasterADV|PikamasterADV]] 19:37, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
:What is your reason for ignoring Fiore? --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 18:44, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
::I'd think it's Kanto-native, too, but yeah, Fiore brings up a problem. I do agree, though, that they plopped in in the Hoenn Safari Zone so that they could have an excuse to have it in the Hoenn Dex. --'''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 19:25, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
:::Because it's a "Side Game". And then you include the "wild" Pikachu in Mystery Dungeon, the Pikachu in Trozei!, and the "gift" Pikachu in PBR and Japanese Colosseum. Ranger also has Wild Starter Pokemon, Wild Fossils, and other anomolies, so I didn't include it. It was mostly a thought about the core RPGs. --[[User:PikamasterADV|PikamasterADV]] 20:34, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
::::Your anomolies don't mean much. The Trozei Pokémon are not wild, nor are the gift Pokémon. Orre only has nine wild Pokémon, none of which cause issues. Mystery Dungeon is set in a different dimension. However, Fiore is an established region with links to the world of the main RPGs. Starter Pokémon have to be found wild somewhere so being specific to Fiore where trainers are not found makes a lot of sense. The only fossil there is Aerodactyl, which is suitably found in an ancient area, not that fossils are that special any more.
::::You can mention that it is the case in the handheld main series but the side games still count in the canon. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 00:31, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

== Vandal Alert! ==

This page has been vandalised and I don't know how to revert it! Please help!

;Don't worry, I reverted back to normal. I also told the admins to ban User:Deanpeps. --[[Image:Spr 3e 115.gif]][[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy512]][[Image:Spr 3e 202.gif]][[Image:Spr 3e 327.gif]] 11:07, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

== TCG ==

Where is the '''In the TCG''' section? -[[Image:Spr 3e 186.gif|30px]][[User:Politoed666|Politoed]][[User talk:Politoed666|666]][[Image:Spr 3e 186.gif|30px]]

==Fly and Surf==

How can Pikachu learn fly and surf? I know Gameshark can but can anyone write something to show really how? [[User:Kiewzhenyi|Kiewzhenyi]] 15:16, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

IT CAN'T! --[[Image:Spr 3e 115.gif]][[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy512]][[Image:Spr 3e 202.gif]][[Image:Spr 3e 327.gif]] 17:30, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
:There are special promo Pikachu that learn these moves, but there is no way to teach a Pikachu these on its own. --[[User:DarkfireTaimatsu|DarkfireTaimatsu]] 18:54, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

I know that it can only be obtained through promos. I think writing in a more detailed way, exactly how it is being obtained and events to obtain it in the article would be more helpful. [[User:Kiewzhenyi|Kiewzhenyi]] 13:02, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

The TCG has a card called Flying Pikachu. The Pikachu has balloons tied around it, so that it could fly. Its attacks are Thundershock and Fly.

Old Glitch with the Yellow Pikachu. Use it in one of the two Stadiums through all eight battles in one of the cups and it can learn Surf. I personally have never been able to do it because I could never get my pika high enough to battle in the Cup, but I hear it can be done. Only method I know of. [[User:Xanhawk|Xanhawk]]22:51 Dec. 21, 2008
:That wasn’t a glitch, it only occurred in Stadium 1, it specifically had to be a Master Ball round, and any Pikachu would work… [[User:IIMarckus|IIMarckus]] 04:55, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

== GSC Tail ==

How is Pikachu's tail backwards in GSC? Could someone show me? I can't tell!--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 18:51, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
:Look at the two backsprites, and compare it to those of RSE and DP. [[User:Tina|Tina]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|☆]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 18:54, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, but doesn't [[Ash's Pikachu|Pikachu]]'s tail move around to different positions? Couldn't the staff use the excuse that the Pikachu turned its tail?--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 19:01, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
:Of course. Same as the excuse to have Ash leave all of his Johto team at home before Hoenn. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:36, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

:U don't need to be so rude about it!--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 20:45, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Huh. In any case, it is quite apparent that they were trying to make the tail look more like a thunderbolt. ~ [[User:Zeofar|Zeofar]] 03:41, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

== Sexist!? ==

The heart-shaped tail of the female Pikachu is criticized as being sexist? At least that's what a user put in the trivia section. I haven't heard of such a thing. Anyone else? ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 16:15, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
:Don't you know? Heart-shaped ''anything'' is sexist. BAN LUVDISC UNTIL THEY TURN IT INO A CD-ROM! '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 17:34, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

::Now that you mention it... How could I have ever forgotten? ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 18:36, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Indeed, I would have to agree with that sexist theory, using this spectrum of thought; what do we associate hearts with? Love and cuteness. Not all females are cut and love-obsessed, I can assure you that... ((Forgive me if that argument sounds somewhat incoherent, as I am somewhat sleep-deprived.)) --Deoxys Ribonuke
:Well, then I guess Heracross is sexist too then? As well as May's Bulbasaur. This is stupid, who ever brought that up? --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 00:43, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

I LUV PIKACHU - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Uiii|Uiii]] ([[User talk:Uiii|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Uiii|contribs]]){{ #if: | {{{2}}} |}}''
:...that's nice, but how does this have to do with this topic or the main article? - [[User talk:SpontaneousCombusken|s.]][[User:SpontaneousCombusken|'''Combusken''']] 02:11, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
You know, I was rather concerned at first because I though the heading said "sexiest"... [[User:GlinnMgraw|Glinn]] [[User_talk:GlinnMgraw|Mgraw]] 10:43, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
:Lol.Sexist is too harsh of a word for it[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|DCM]]

I really don't think its that much of an issue.....--Pokelova 01:20, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

:Right. Who cares? [[User:FireHazard|Slash!!]] 01:48, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
::There are mad little kids who go on though... [[User:Ht14|''ht'']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 03:47, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
:::I'm just compelled to point out the irony of posting in this topic two months later.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 04:28, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
::::Ok...so? What do you think though?{{unsigned|Ht14}}
:::::The point is that it makes no sense to point out that sometimes people stay angry after the topic was dropped for two months.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 07:04, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

== Pikachu hasn't .... ==

Appeared at every movies.
How about the Legend of Thunder Pikachu didn't appear. {{unsigned|Justine53}}
: That is not a movie, that is a Pokémon Special for T.V only--[[Charizard (Pokémon)|Force]] [[User:Force Fire|''Fire'']] [[User talk:Force Fire|''talk'']] 06:10, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
:: The Legend of Thunder! (Japanese: ポケットモンスタークリスタル・ライコウ　雷の伝説 Pocket Monsters Crystal: Raikou - Legend of Thunder) is a made-for-TV anime movie. it has movie in it.{{unsigned|Justine53}}
::: It's not really a movie seeing as it was only seen on T.V and/or DVD, Not in Cinemas (I think). --[[Charizard (Pokémon)|Force]] [[User:Force Fire|''Fire'']] [[User talk:Force Fire|''talk'']] 06:53, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
::::There are currently 11 (to be 12) Pokémon movies. ''[[Mewtwo Strikes Back]]'', ''[[The Power of One]]'', ''[[Spell of the Unown]]'', ''[[Pokémon 4Ever]]'', ''[[Pokémon Heroes]]'', ''[[Jirachi: Wish Maker]]'', ''[[Destiny Deoxys]]'', ''[[Lucario and the Mystery of Mew]]'', ''[[Pokémon Ranger and the Temple of the Sea]]'', ''[[The Rise of Darkrai]]'', and ''[[Giratina and the Sky Warrior]]''. ''[[To the Conquering of Space-Time]]'' isn't yet released, but when it is in July it will be #12. ''[[Mewtwo Returns]]'' and ''[[The Legend of Thunder]]'' aren't movies. They're special episodes. In Japan, LOT and MR were covered in an hour, since LOT wasn't broken up by the morons at 4Kids over there. They were released in ''DECEMBER'', not ''JULY'', and DID NOT APPEAR IN JAPANESE MOVIE THEATERS. They aired on Thursday night at 7 like ''regular anime episodes'' for their debut. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:01, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

== How often has the species appeared in the anime... ==

...when it wasn't owned by Ash. In fact, was Sparky the most recent live Pikachu to appear? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 10:16, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
:Uh...wasn't there a Pikachu named Sugar in [[DP024]]? ...but I think it was only a Pikachu in flashbacks. When it finally showed up it was a Raichu. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 12:21, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
::No, it wasn't seen in flashback, and did not appeared in the episode at all, as I recall. TTE's right, if we are to count only the live Pikachu. --×'''[[User:Kevzo8|Ke]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|vz]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|o8]]''' 13:22, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
:::Well that's an interesting thing then. Another one's not been in the main anime since JOHTO. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:03, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

== Pikachu's clones slurred speech ==

It doesn't sound slurred to me. A little different from Ash's Pikachu's but not slurred [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 00:50, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

== Egg Moves ==

As for Pikachu with special moves (like Nintendo Power's Surfing Pikachu), can the event move be passed down to offspring? [[User:Recalcitrancy|Recalcitrancy]] 15:45, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
:Interesting question. I guess no. --'''[[User:Prongs|Prongs]] '''([[User Talk:Prongs|Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Prongs|Contributions]])''' 15:58, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

== What!?? ==
What the heck is the "Codec Information" thing on there?? It is not useful at all. Like the one on the page for Red (game). --[[User:FlamingStop|FlamingStop]] 13:15, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
:In Super Smash Bros Brawl, Solid Snake has a taunt only available on Shadow Moses island where he contacts a friend and they talk about someone he is fighting. Pikachu, Jigglypuff, Lucario, and Pokémon Trainer, being in Brawl, all have Codec Discussions centering on them. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|You enter a poorly lit room...]] 13:17, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
::Yup. Thats true. Althought I never have got that thing to work. [[User:Glitchym1|Glitchym1]] 22:11, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

== Pikachu replacing Clefairy... ==

"Pikachu was not the original Pokémon mascot. It was supposed to be Clefairy, but this was changed because of the popularity of Ash's Pikachu."

This was stated in a interview? If someone has the source, I would like to see it.

And I wish that statement would be more specific. When was decided that Clefairy would be the mascot? Was it when that [[Pocket Monsters (manga)|crappy Pokémon manga]] proved successful in Japan? Or it was decided from the start, and the manga used Clefairy because of that? [[User:Spideym|Spideym]] 22:54, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

== Sprite ==

How come the page has: [[File:Spr_4p_025_m.png]]

But <nowiki>025.png</nowiki> is:[[File:025.png]]

Who did dis?----'''[[User:Missingyes| |\/| | Z]] [[User talk:Missingyes|Z | |\| G]] [[User:Missingyes/Sprites|Y E Z]]''' 17:57, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
:I beat you to it...I did it while I was uploading the new custom sprites.--[[Bulbapedia:Project Custom Sprite|☆]][[User:Tavisource|Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 18:01, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
::CUSTOM? There supposed to be the real sprites!----'''[[User:Missingyes| |\/| | Z]] [[User talk:Missingyes|Z | |\| G]] [[User:Missingyes/Sprites|Y E Z]]''' 14:43, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
:::No...I meant I uploaded the Pikachu Sprite while I was uploading other custom sprites.--[[Bulbapedia:Project Custom Sprite|☆]][[User:Tavisource|Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 18:34, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
::::At least it's fixed now, that wasn't even the second sprite! It has to be FROM THE GAME!----'''[[User:Missingyes| |\/| | Z]] [[User talk:Missingyes|Z | |\| G]] [[User:Missingyes/Sprites|Y E Z]]''' 14:16, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

== HGSS Sprite in wrong place ==

The HGSS sprites are under DPPt. Why? --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 05:23, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
:The bottom row is the female version. // [[User talk:Szayel Aporro|'''''SzayelAporroGranz''''']][[Image:Ani282MS.gif]] 18:15, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

== Pokémon Pikachu? ==

I've herd that in a Wario World game, Wario had a treasure called the Pokémon Pikachu. Is this true? The game was for GameBoy Colour. [[User:Glitchym1|Glitchym1]] 22:06, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

Uh, it's Wario ''Land''. Wario ''World'' has no such treasure. [[User:Magikarp123193|magikarp123193]] 17:13, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Talk:AG114

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Moretacos: /* Chimecho's face */

== Chimecho's face ==

I don't think so that Chimecho's face can to be a error, maybe can be a expressiuon funny tipicla of japanese animation --Ash 18:26, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
:Yeah, I agree. '''[[User:CuboneKing|Cubone]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]]''' ([[User talk:CuboneKing|Planet Cubone]] • [[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|Bone Club]]) 18:27, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
::I think it should be kept, but moved to trivia. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 18:32, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
:::That was exactly what i was thinking when I was viewing this... I think it should be changed. --[[User:Moretacos|Moretacos]] 18:08, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Dawn's Mamoswine

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Moretacos: /* Mamoswine...? */ new section

== Picture ==
Can someone please get a picture without the text and the logo on it? --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 00:00, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
:I can--[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''Pika''']][[User Talk:CoolPikachu!/Archive 1|'''chu!''']] 00:01, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

== Trivia ==

If and When Swinub evolves all the way (Mamoswine) I think it should be noted that it is the second Pokemon of hers that evolved by learning a move. The first was when Aipom learned double hit and evolved, which I'm sure they'll do with (Piloswine) and ancientpower. --[[User:Dman dustin|Dman dustin]] 05:38, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Ok...it would have been noted anyway.

--[[User:HoennMaster|--HoennMaster]] 06:41, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
:Yeah, wait until it ''actually'' does so, undoubtedly sometime between here and Sunyshore. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:15, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

::It will also be the second Pokémon of the main characters that evolve by learning the move {{m|AncientPower}}, the first being [[Jessie's Yanmega]].-[[User:Billy4b2004|Billy4b2004]] 11:17, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

== Take Down??? ==

Swinub used Take Down? It looked more like Double-Edge if you ask me. Remember when Brock's Sudowoodo used Double-Edge, it was surrounded (or followed) by a yellow trail?

I'd say it's Double-Edge, not Take Down. [[User: Dilophosaurus Rex|Dilophosaurus Rex]]
:You say look, but watch the episode and take down the name. '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''11:06 4 Jul 2008'''''

Take Down??
Double-edge?
I only knows that Swinub glows yellow/white only when it tackles the target, but Sudowoodo tackles the foe and beam appears behind it. [[User:Dong|Dong]] 13:35, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

== English Voice Actor ==

[[Kayzie Rogers]] will voice her Swinub since she did in both [[4Kids Entertainment]] and [[Pokémon USA]] dubs [[User:Livinlarge18|Livinlarge18]] 01:26, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
:Since it's not confirmed for sure, I don't think it should be put on the article until the dub airs.- [[User:SpontaneousCombusken|spontaneous'''Combusken''']] 01:35, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

IT IS 17 EPPYS AWAY!! Y R WE TALKIN ABOUT IT NOW???--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 01:39, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

== Japanese voice? ==

who Dawn's Swinub Japanese voice?
:We don't know as Swinub wasn't listed in the credits. Yet they can list other Pokémon voices that we already freakin know about... Stupid directors. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 02:07, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
::But truly, they're not stupid are they...~[[User:Pokemaniac102|Pokemaniac102]] 02:09, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
:::Nah. I'm just venting... --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 02:15, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

== Kenta Miyake? ==

To me it doesn't sound like it's voiced by a man. Was there a source that said this? Cause it sure wasn't PokeAni. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 18:41, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

== help ==

This is the third time a main character captures a Pokémon to stop them from continuously eating food. First, Ash captured his Snorlax to stop it from eating all the grapefruit in a small island range in the Orange Islands, and second, May captures a Munchlax to take responsibility for its constant eating of trainer's Pokéblocks and berries. i want to add this to Dawn's Swinub trivia tell me how?[[User:Kikibabygirl28|Kikibabygirl28]] 20:45, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

::Well, this might not be really needed. Swinub is already compared to Munchlax. And what do you mean by how?--[[User:Taviource|Tavis]][[User talk:Taviource|ource]] 21:04, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
:::May and Dawn didn't catch Munchlax and Swinub, respectively, to get them to stop eating. Only Ash did that with Snorlax. May and Dawn just wanted a new Pokémon. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガー
ル''']] 21:22, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

==When?==
did swinub use Ice Beam? [[User:Happizelpom|Happizelpom]] 04:40, 25 July 2008 (UTC)Happizelpom
:Several sources say it was used in the 11th movie. Personally, I think it should be left out until the movie's DVD release in December. '''~[[User:RR|R]][[User talk:RR|R]]~''' 23:17, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
IT CHECK and it id not use ice beam. [[User:Lindsayoris15|Lindsayoris15]] 19:19, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

== Wait... What? ==

When did that happen? I don't think the episode aired yet. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 10:29, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
:So it aired one hour earlier? And DP106 can also be unprotected now!-[[User:Billy4b2004|Billy4b2004]] 10:33, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
::It should have, I think, judging by the time differences. I think it's almost NZ time and we're onto December 5 (in 23 minutes). — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 10:38, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
:::Normally, the ep should air in in around 10:30/11:00 if I'm not mistaken but since it's a one-hour special. I think it is normal for it to air earlier.-[[User:Billy4b2004|Billy4b2004]] 10:40, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
::::It always airs at 7PM JST... It's Naruto that is being pushed back to 8PM. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 10:41, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::Oh, I see.-[[User:Billy4b2004|Billy4b2004]] 10:43, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
Which ep did it evolve in? 104 or 105? --[[Charizard (Pokémon)|Force]] [[User:Force Fire|''Fire'']] [[User talk:Force Fire|''talk'']] 10:44, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
:I want to ask this question too! The same statement appear in the two ep pages! Things are in a mess now. According to PKMN Veteran in the forums, it evolve in DP104, but it says it evolve into Mamoswine while FabuVinny said Piloswine. Who are we going to trust? By the way, when will DP106 be unprotected?-[[User:Billy4b2004|Billy4b2004]] 10:48, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
:: Well if we trust PKMN Veteran, There's a high chance Vabu-Vinny may kill us, So we stick with what F-V said. (P.S. It can't evolve into a Mammoswine in one click) --[[Charizard (Pokémon)|Force]] [[User:Force Fire|''Fire'']] [[User talk:Force Fire|''talk'']] 10:54, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
:::Even for those who haven't seen DP104 yet, we know from the summary of next week's episode that it is still Piloswine then anyway. It's just the opening that has already switched to Mamoswine. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 11:08, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
:::: They'll probably change it into a piloswine in the [[DP106|next]] [[DP107|episode]] [[DP108|or]] [[DP109|so]].--[[Charizard (Pokémon)|Force]] [[User:Force Fire|''Fire'']] [[User talk:Force Fire|''talk'']] 11:10, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::Or they'll simply keep it unchanged.-[[User:Billy4b2004|Billy4b2004]] 11:12, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
::::::PKMN Veteran does refer to it as a Piloswine in his DP105 summary. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 11:14, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
: I still think it should be protected, updated with new information but again there's evidence that it's going to evolve again. The mistake in the opening. --[[User:Dman dustin|Dman dustin]] 11:17, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
:: I hope not, Then we have to edit all this junk again. Just wait 'till DP106 airs (Which is next week) --[[Charizard (Pokémon)|Force]] [[User:Force Fire|''Fire'']] [[User talk:Force Fire|''talk'']] 11:20, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

== Image ==

Mind if I change the image to this:

Image:Dawn's Piloswine.jpg

It's in jpg tho...--[[Charizard (Pokémon)|Force]] [[User:Force Fire|''Fire'']] [[User talk:Force Fire|''talk'']] 11:05, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
::I think it's OK, but we should keep the img of it as a Swinub at the same time. {{unsigned| Billy4b2004}}
::: Yeah me too, But You guys can change it if you want--[[Charizard (Pokémon)|Force]] [[User:Force Fire|''Fire'']] [[User talk:Force Fire|''talk'']] 11:08, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
::::I'm pretty sure that picture isn't of Dawn's Piloswine so no, wait until we have a screenshot from this week's episodes. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 11:09, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::That's just a photoshop edit made by Serebii. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 11:13, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

== WE should be protected this again for DP106 ==

becasue in the next episode 106 Dawn's Piloswine has learn ancient power which mean that it may evolve again but maybe not this episode.[[User:Lindsayoris15|Lindsayoris15]] 11:22, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
:Where do you learn that Piloswine will learn AncientPower in DP106?-[[User:Billy4b2004|Billy4b2004]] 11:23, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
IN DP 106 preview.[[User:Lindsayoris15|Lindsayoris15]] 11:24, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
:: Wait 'till someone confirms this, maybe in 4 days time for a preview, But wait till next week for the episode. If theres a sign of Piloswine evolving in the preview, then we protect. --[[Charizard (Pokémon)|Force]] [[User:Force Fire|''Fire'']] [[User talk:Force Fire|''talk'']] 11:25, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
::: The Opening also made a mistake and put Mamoswine, and I don't think we protect simply when a Pokemon is glowing, but when there's evidence towards it. The opening and the ancient power in DP 106 thanks to the preview of it seems like good evidence that it's evolving again. --[[User:Dman dustin|Dman dustin]] 11:28, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
::::Learning doesn't mean evolving, Bonsly evolve in the '''next''' ep after learning Mimic.-[[User:Billy4b2004|Billy4b2004]] 11:30, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
::::: And Aipom and Yanma evolved in the same episode as the move they learned that helps them evolve. I know Bonsly evolved in the next episode after learning mimic. I think it's better to be safe than sorry. --[[User:Dman dustin|Dman dustin]] 11:34, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

::::::On the counter side, [[James's Mime Jr.]] already knows {{m|Mimic}} and still has yet to evolve into {{p|Mr. Mime}}. For all we know, this might be the episode Mime Jr. finally evolves. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 16:15, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

:::::::But maybe he gave Mime Jr. an everstone... [[User:Juan Sanfiel|JS]] 02:30, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
::::::::If Jr. evolves and leaves he'll have room for a Snover on Route 216. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:36, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

:::::::::James already has room for a Snover, if he gets one (I personally think Ash'll get Snover, sometime after Grotle's gone--if the Grass starter were meant to be Ash's signature for the fourth generation, they wouldn't have given him Chimchar in the first place unless he was to also get a Piplup--if Ash doesn't opt for a Tangela instead around Mt. Coronet). Even if we assumed James only has room for three, he's not full up (right now, his slots are Mime Jr., Carnivine, and empty; I have doubts that Cacnea's returning). And there's no guarantee that James'll get rid of Mr. Mime after it finishes evolving. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 03:20, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

well for one thing the preview is already there. second piloswine didnt use ancient power. i think your thinking of ice shard[[User:Happizelpom|Happi]][[User talk:Happizelpom|zel]][[Special:Contributions/Happizelpom|pom]] 03:28, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

No, it is Ancientpower, it looks EXACTLY the same as when Yanmega uses it. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 03:34, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
: Not to mention Ice Shard was used earlier in the preview and looks different than the attack used at the end of the preview. --[[User:Dman dustin|Dman dustin]] 04:57, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

: Why should we protect it if the anime itself has already confirmed it will shortly be Mamoswine in the opening? --[[User:Zeta|Zeta]] 05:04, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
: Because some Noob might speculate it, I mean, It probably won't evolve. --[[Charizard (Pokémon)|Force]] [[User:Force Fire|''Fire'']] [[User talk:Force Fire|''talk'']] 05:07, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

:: But if the opening already has Mamoswine, that means it WILL evolve. And very shortly. So shortly they didn't even feel the need to put Piloswine in the opening. --[[User:Zeta|Zeta]] 08:35, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
:::Before I comment further, how often around here are pages sporadically moved by people that think a Pokémon is going to evolve? And when was the last time this happened and was wrong? (serious questions; I have no idea). — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 08:42, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
::::Actually, no one has done anything like this in a long time. The pages are only protected ''in case'' something like this happen (which I seriously doubt). [[User:Jmath|'''Jm''']][[User talk:Jmath|'''a''']][[Special:Contributions/Jmath|'''th''']] 09:27, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::Then why bother protecting if the precedent was years (possibly figurative years) ago? After all, this is just speculation. If someone does it before it's official, just chuck them a warning and move it back. If they persist, then follow up using standard anti-vandal protocol. It makes sense. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 09:18, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
::::::Possibly saves them the work of doing all this. Anyway, protecting pages like this gets really annoying, since you can't fix ''anything'' on the page until the protection expires. [[User:Jmath|'''Jm''']][[User talk:Jmath|'''a''']][[Special:Contributions/Jmath|'''th''']] 09:27, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Which is probably necessary seeing as it just got half a rewrite. Admins reading this, don't protect plz. Just let it run its course and we'll see if anyone tries to make a stuffup. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 09:32, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
::::::::The opening can merely mean to be an error. A Pokémon site also have a magmar image with the name Magmortar, it could be the same for Piloswine. For all we know, not all the Pokémon who have learn the move required for evolution will evolve. Mime Jr. didn't evolve after the battle in the chingling ep so we can only assume that cases are different to every Pokémon. -[[User:Billy4b2004|Billy4b2004]] 15:33, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
::::::::: There's a big difference between a fansite mislabeling a Pokemon and '''THE ANIME PUTTING THE WRONG POKEMON IN AN OPENING.''' In fact, I'd say that doubting the opening is itself speculation. And foolish speculation at that. I'm pretty sure the anime you know, pays people for that not to happen and have been doing this for 10 years to make sure mistakes like that don't happen. Silly me. I thought we agreed on the forums that reliable sources would be just as good to confirm evolutions as the episode's airing? And what more reliable source can you get than the freaking anime itself?! --[[User:Zeta|Zeta]] 18:04, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::That's not a fansite, that is jetix! And I doubt that they are that lazy. If they are lazy, why didn't they keep it as a Swinub and change it to Mamoswine directly when it evolve? If they are lazy, why do they do it so early! They wouldn't do it until the last minute if they are lazy. I mean, why bother doing it so early if it is to be done later. This surely is a mistake! Why would they spoil the evolution? Can you give me any reason for this?-[[User:Billy4b2004|Billy4b2004]] 10:51, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
It will evolve, that is fairly obvious. Also, I re-watced the preview and Piloswine uses both Ice Shard and Ancientpower in it. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 16:10, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
:But it has not evolved yet. Just wait, guys, until next week and we'll see if it does or not (although it sure seems likely that it will, but that doesn't mean we move the page now or protect it so it doesn't get moved. Like I said above, use this to establish a new precedent about moving pages; like Jmath said, the move-revert war hasn't happened for yonks). — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 19:51, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
::It should be protected. And Jessie and James have room for 6 each, I thought. Take Grating Spaces, for instance. Jessie had Seviper, Dustox, Wobbuffet, and Charizard, and James had Cacnea, Mime Jr., and Aggron. More than six altogether, I believe. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 15:58, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

== Disobedience? ==

Is it showing any signs of disobedience like Serebii said it would? --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 03:39, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Not yet, but the summary said they started in [[DP106]]. Although it does look like it will be that bad. At the beginning of [[DP105]] Piloswine was quite affectionate with Dawn. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 03:45, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

== Tusks ==
Piloswine's tusk size is consistent with that of a female. Should we put that in the infobox, or should we wait until it evolves to see Mamoswine's tusk size? These two have gender differences, although if it's anything like Ash's Staravia, some admin is going to say 'no' because no character officially said it -_- '''~[[User:RR|R]][[User talk:RR|R]]~''' 21:54, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

How can we possibly say they look like a female's when we don't even have another one to compare it too? --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 04:02, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

We do have other Mamoswine to compare it to. Remember the Mamoswines in Movie 11? [[User:Dilophosaurus Rex|Dilophosaurus Rex]] 12:11, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Considering no site has a picture of those Mamoswine, we don't. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 14:01, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Now we do. Serebii has the pictures of Movie 11, and the Mamoswine on those pictures have larger tusks than Dawn's Mamoswine. So it's female after all. [[User:Dilophosaurus Rex|Dilophosaurus Rex]] 11:43, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

== Similarities to Misty Togetic ==
Swinub has some similarities to Misty Togepi . They were both the six pokemon obtained by their trainers and are both gen 2 pokemon. They both willingly went with their trainers without requiring their trainers to battle them. They also evolved in similar situations. They were both being badly beaten and refused to give up causing their trainers to worry about their safety. Togepi was being beaten by Hanson’s Ninjask and evolved, while Swinub was being beaten by team rocket’s Magikarp sub and evolved. Both were the second pokemon of each trainer to be seen evolving on screen. Both are gen 2 pokemon that have gen 4 evolutions. Voit
:Swinub was Dawn's fifth party member (Aipom counts as traded, not caught). Plus, Dawn didn't hold Swinub in her arms for 300 episodes and not let it do anything until that arc. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 09:09, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

:I get what you are saying, but in Piloswines's article it was dawns sixth pokemon in all and togepi's article says that it was misty 's sixth pokemon in all. and both pokemon were badly beaten before evolving, and both trainers had the same reaction. Also both pokemon were the second pokemon of both trainers to be seen evolving on screenand are both gen 2 pokemon. I just thought it would make good trivia for Piloswine but if its inaccurate just let me know, because I don't want to mess anything up. Voit

==why==
did you change it to mamoswine already?[[User:Happizelpom|Happi]][[User talk:Happizelpom|zel]][[Special:Contributions/Happizelpom|pom]] 11:22, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
:[[DP106]] has just aired in Japan...--[[Charizard (Pokémon)|Force]] [[User:Force Fire|''Fire'']] [[User talk:Force Fire|''talk'']] 11:23, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

==Not sure about the rule==
I'm not sure what the rules are about it but I gave it a shot. Piloswine didn't evolve exactly after using Ancientpower, nor was it used right before evolving. I don't know if it's proper to say it evolved after using Ancientpower or not. But Piloswine evolved after being attacked by Team Rocket. Ancientpower just explains why it evolved not how it evolved.--[[User:Dman dustin|Dman dustin]] 11:35, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

== Similarity to Charizard? ==

Okay, I know it can't be just me, but this thing evolved after a while into its second form, which was a jerk, and very soon after into its third form, which is an even bigger jerk. Chance of Charizard's appearance during Movie 12 or before, in an Ashback? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:26, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
:In the episode it finally gets tamed in, which'll probably be around Sunyshore. [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 00:14, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
::The similarity may be partially unintentional. It's obvious that the main characters' Pokémon are getting a lot more character development in DP than in the previous two series--it may just be that the writers were running short on Pokemon personality ideas and wanted to (whether consciously or otherwise) reuse the "evolves, then acts rebellious" archetype. Maybe they even wanted to purposely revisit that kind of scenario with their improved writing--a redux, of sorts. Also, from what's been said about Piloswine/Mamoswine, it seems that its personality isn't directly analogous to Charizard's; it has little self-control, but still acts affectionate towards Dawn, unlike Charizard who seemed bent on burning Ash to cinders. (Apologies if that's inaccurate, I actually haven't watched the anime past the beginning of Johto, but that doesn't mean I can't have opinions or speculate...right?) [[User:Lucentas|Lucentas]] 05:35, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

==I==
dont think ice beam should be italicized. it hasnt been seen using it in the anime, and there is only speculation that it used it in the 11th movie. [[User:Happizelpom|Happi]][[User talk:Happizelpom|zel]][[Special:Contributions/Happizelpom|pom]] 06:47, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

:Speculation or real? Can anyone confirm this?-[[User:Billy4b2004|Billy4b2004]] 10:02, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

==Ice Beam rumor wrong==
I saw the pictures [http://serebii.net/movies/giratina/pics24.shtml here] and swinub was using ice shard not ice beam, i think people were confused because there were many other pokemon using ice beam in the background. also at first you see buneary and swinub about to attack and the next pic you see an ice beam and some ice projectiles being shot. so can we delete ice beam? [[User:Happizelpom|Happi]][[User talk:Happizelpom|zel]][[Special:Contributions/Happizelpom|pom]] 10:50, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

:Looks like Ice Shard, since it's nothing like a bolt of electricity. '''[[User:Optimatum|Θρtιmαtum]][[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]] 12:37, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
::But it sure looks like Ice Beam.--[[Bulbapedia:Project Custom Sprite|☆]][[User:Tavisource|Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 03:03, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
:::It is Ice Shard. I just checked the movie. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 03:07, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

== Picture ==

Some time ago(the episode when it evolves into mamoswine already aired), I checked out the page and saw the picture was..... uhm...... "quite blurry", since, '''for some reason''', I didn't find any other picture on the archives to replace it when I tried to....... well whoever replaced the picture, good job, way better than the "quite blurry" one, so, good job.--[[User:Dragonbeastx|DRAGON]][[User talk:Dragonbeastx|BEAST]][[User:Dragonbeastx/Secret Page|X]] 04:18, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
:To find the user who replaced the image, try using the history tab. Look for the revision for between the old and new pic.--[[User:Kevzo8|Ke]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|vz]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|o8]] 04:22, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

== Gender Differences: Mamowine's clearly female ==

[[Image:Mamoswine movie.jpg|thumb|right|210px|Mamoswine in [[Giratina and the Sky Warrior]]]]
[[Image:Mamoswine.png|thumb|left|240px|Dawn's Mamoswine in the anime]]
Looking at the two, I can see a clear difference. Of course, this same thing happened {{AP|with another Pokémon|Staravia}} but surely this proves that Mamoswine is female. [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 19:35, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
:Could just be differnces in animation between movies and anime. But I'm just playing devil's advocate now. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Nos hablamos?]] 19:37, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
:: I noticed that when I looked at the "beard" around their noses, but the tusks length are seemingly different. Although, they are at different lengths, and angles, Dawn is standing next to Mamoswine's movie debut and that helped with the scale. [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 19:45, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
:::It would be more clear if another Mamoswine appeared and interacted with Dawn's. Size differences really are a pain in the ****. [[User:Jmath|'''Jm''']][[User talk:Jmath|'''a''']][[Special:Contributions/Jmath|'''th''']] 19:47, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
::::As said before, movies are animated a little differently so this is not proof that we can use. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 04:05, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

== Opposite types ==

Should we add that Charizard and Mamoswine are of opposite types; Fire/Flying and Ice/Ground, respectively? [[User:Master Lucario|Master Lucario]]

:Nope, that is ''too'' coincidental. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 07:49, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

== Mamoswine...? ==

Sorry to ask but why does Dawn have a Mamoswine... I don't think it goes with her... but it's just me. What do you all think?

Talk:Animated series move errors

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There has to be a way to make it so that EP goes before AG and DP... '''[[User:TTEchidna|TTE]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:32, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

== Roark's Onix ==

Did Roark's Onix use Zap cannon in DP017 or DP018?[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|Maniac]][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|102]] 04:08, 22 January 2008 (UTC)\

neither but it did use screech
[[User: ShinyMedicham]]

== Order? ==

Are the anime moves supposed to be in order and if so, order by what? [[User:Cassius335|Cassius335]] 13:22, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

:Order by episode. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 10:33, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

And what about the combees and psybeam in DP...errrr...Ok I dont rember which.... - [[User:Crystallucario|CrystalLucario]] 14:11, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

I was under the impression that that was Vespiquin's Attack Order. - [[User:Cassius335|Cassius335]] 01:24, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Attack order.... I could swore brock said psybeam...but attack order make sense... - [[User:Crystallucario|CrystalLucario]] 12:03, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

==Some of these attacks==
Some of these attack seem like Physical Attributes and are they really that notable? Like Marnie's Drifloon knowing Fly. Are we sure we can consider that its actually using the game move Fly? The pokedex does say they try to carry children away, and Drifloon can float. I know she says fly but fly itself doesn't mean its actually the move. Here about this for an example, suppose there is a large flying Pokemon with wings, but it can't learn fly in the games, when it carries someone, is it really considered to be using the actual game move Fly? --[[User:Dman dustin|Dman dustin]] 11:50, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
:I was wondering that, too. I suppose if a trainer tells their Pokémon to use (move), then it counts. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]][[Image:Ani155MS.gif|Fire echy]]''' 20:14, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
:: But is saying "Pokemon, move!" the same thing as "Pokemon, use move!"? [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 13:23, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
:::Almost all Pokémon with wings can fly, but it isn't always the attack Fly. If it was the move {{m|Fly}}, they would have to hit the Pokémon not just fly away. [[Image:Ani448MS.gif]][[User:Jmath|'''Jmath''']][[Image:Ani447MS.gif]][[User talk:Jmath|'''Talk''']][[Image:Ani448MS.gif]] 18:08, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

Riolu is a similar issue. It's knowledge of {{m|Aura Sphere}} is due to it being able to manipulate [[aura]], which its species normally can't do until after evolution. In fact, for all we know, it might use that move in the game anyway. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 19:46, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

:I'd say Take Riolu off the list, In [[Pokémon Ranger Batonnage]] There is a Bonus mission to get a Riolu and if you beat it, you can transfer it to D/P and It will know Aura Sphere--[[User:Quick Man|Quick Man]] 19:57, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

::That's an abnormal method of learning it, though. Riolu can't learn Aura Sphere in the main games, anymore than Pikachu can learn Surf. [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 21:54, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

:::Since the episode was specifically based on the Battonage mission, that argument is invalid.
:::I'm also seriously questioning Bulbasaur tickling Togepi being an error, especially given that the move known as {{m|Tickle}} didn't even exist back then. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 00:45, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
::::I don't even think the move Tickle was PLANNED. Seriously, Ash didn't say 'Bulbasaur, use Tickle!' Instead, he said 'Bulbasaur, tickle Psyduck!' Posted by the '''[[User:Optimus35|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''02:46 11 May 2008'''''

Also, James Hoppip using Fly is Invald, too. it Just flew with the Air current's, which is on it's Pokédex entries.--[[User:Quick Man|Quick Man]] 20:52, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

== [[Drew's Butterfree]] ==

We should include Drew's Butterfree using Protect [[User:Livinlarge18|Livinlarge18]] 22:39, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

: No....Butterfree can learn protect through TM. [[User:Mr.lol|Dean]]

== Ash's Pikachu ==

Should Ash's Pikachu using Volt Tackle be added? I know it's an egg move from Pichu, but Ash's Pikachu learned it through a different way.{{unsigned|Strawhat luffy}}
:The only issue there is the method of learning, which the writers had no choice but to cheat on. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 00:50, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
::You know, it could of known it all along and may have been born with the tequnique. It may have just taken it a while to figure out how to use it. Remember, games doesn't always equal anime. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 01:12, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
:::The problem is that games =/= anime is the whole point of this article. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 01:15, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

::::We include Volt Tackle, we include [[Misty's Azurill]]'s {{m|Refresh}}. Trust me, Pokémon in the anime can learn moves through bull**** methods without a moment's notice. For example, if {{an|Dawn}}'s newly-evolved [[Dawn's Piplup|Prinplup]] starts sparring against [[Ash's Chimchar|Ash's Monferno]] working on a bull**** method to learn {{m|Stealth Rock}} in [[DP085]], would we include that? No.

::::(For the record, the example is not indicative of any actual DP085 plot.) --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 02:16, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

: I think the difference though is some Pokemon can't learn/know a specific move period. And TMs don't really exist in the anime, and so most of the time a Pokemon has to learn a move by watching someone else. (Ash's Turtwig with Energy Ball). And with the case of Pikachu, all it was required to do is store it's electricity and use Quick attack, which is probably how all Pichu/Pikachu/Raichu are capable of using Volt Tackle. The anime puts more realism in the show, since the games are limited. I would be surprised if the games had a system where if you used two attacks in a row and leveled up, it would learn a move that way. And I think the point of this article is for moves that a Pokemon cannot know a move for any reason. Like if a Caterpie started using Flamethrower. It cannot know it period. But Pikachu can know Volt Tackle --[[User:Dman dustin|Dman dustin]] 18:57, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

== "the games" ==

Riolu's Aura Sphere seems to have exposed an issue. What are we counting as "the games"? Just the main set (RBY,GSC,RSE,FRLG & DP) or the various side games as well? For that matter, what counts as "learned"? [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 10:34, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

I believe it counts any move that a Pokemon can learn through any method, as long as that Pokemon with that move can be brought over to a main game. I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 11:00, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Actually, because the Riolu is transferred to D/P, Riolu does learn Aura Sphere in D/P.--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 13:23, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

That's not what "learn" means, Kuki. It can "know" Aura Sphere in D/P, but there's no way ''within D/P themselves'' for Riolu to acquire Aura Sphere; not by level-up, not by TM, not by egg-move or Heart Scale, not even by Move tutor. Even in Baatonage, the Riolu doesn't "learn" Aura Sphere as such; it shows up already knowing the move, without any indication of how it got the move. That's sort of it's whole point: it's an abberation, an anomaly; A Pokemon which knows a move it shouldn't know until it evolves. As such, Riolu's Aura Sphere belongs on the list. [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 12:01, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
:If that is the case, Ash using Aura Sphere in movie 8 should also be on the list. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 12:06, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
:: *laughs* Don't tempt me. I don't think that was supposed to be Aura Sphere, though. [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 12:13, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

== Anime errors? ==

I couldn't find an article on this, but I remember general anime errors in the cartoon that weren't move related. Like Jenny commanding a Growlithe (by calling it Arcanine) to take down Team Rocket's balloon, and Pikachu's electric attack taking out Marowak, which is equally as bad as a move error. I know there's other examples out there too..
Would it be a good idea if there be a general Anime Errors article, with the move errors being a subset of it? Or am I just crazy? Toastypk 19:25, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

We have an errors section in every anime episode's page!--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 19:27, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Well we have all the move related ones here, so just a thought. Toastypk 19:29, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

== Bronzor and Teleport ==

There was really no proof that it used Teleport. All that I saw was Bronzor using Confusion on the Unown and then they were gone. Maybe Saturn as a teleportation device. Unlikely but it could happen. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 22:38, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

== Jynx Ice Punch/Beam ==

I don't know if this is the right place to place this but in ''The Manarin Island Miss Match'' Loreli/Prima commands her Jynx to use Ice Beam and to me it looks a lot more like Ice Punch.

Jynx (Pokémon)

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Moretacos: /* Trivia */

{{PokémonPrevNext | prev=Scyther | next=Electabuzz }}
{{PokémonInfobox|
name=Jynx |
jname=ルージュラ |
tmname=Rougela |
image=124Jynx.png |
caption=Artwork from FR/LG |
ndex=124 |
jdex=153 |
hdex=282 |
fdex=168 |
adex=210 |
typen=2 |
type1=Ice |
type2=Psychic |
species=Human Shape |
height-ftin=4′07″ |
height-m=1.4 |
weight-lbs=89.5 |
weight-kg=40.6 |
abilityn=2 |
ability1=Oblivious |
ability2=Forewarn |
egggroupn=1 |
egggroup1=Humanshape |
egggroup2= |
hatchsteps=6,400 |
effortyield=2 SpA |
expyield=137 |
lv100exp=1,000,000 |
gender=allfemale |
female=100 |
male=0 |
color=Red |
catchrate=45 |
body=12 |
pokefordex=jynx |
generation=1 |
footnotes=}}
'''Jynx''' ([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese]]: '''ルージュラ''' ''Rougela'') is an {{2t|Ice|Psychic}}-type Pokémon.

==Biology==
===Physiology===
Jynx is a humanoid Pokémon that resembles a bulky woman. Jynx wears a red gown, has white arms and purple hands. Jynx has a purple face, pink lips, saucer-like eyes and long blond hair. It seems to resemble a Nordic princess, as seen in various operas. Originally, its face was colored black, causing many to think of it as racist.
====Gender differences====
Jynx is a female-only species with no male counterpart.

====Special abilities====
Jynx can use telepathy to transfer visions of what they've seen into a another being's mind. In battle, Jynx have the power to control ice and snow and can also use (not that greatly) physical combat.

Jynx is the [[Signature move|only known Pokémon]] that learns {{m|Lovely Kiss}}.

===Behavior===
===Habitat===
[[Image:Urban.gif|right|frame|[[List of Pokémon by habitat#Urban Pokémon|Urban Pokémon]]]]
Jynx tend to prefer icy climates, such as caves in snowy mountains. In [[Holiday Hi-Jynx]], various Jynx are seen in [[Santa Claus|Santa]]'s toy factory.

===Diet===
''Main article: [[Pokémon food]]''

==In the anime==
[[Image:Jynx anime.jpg|right|thumb|Jynx in the anime]]
Jynx first appeared in ''[[Holiday Hi-Jynx]]''. One of [[Santa Claus]]'s Jynx was separated from him. [[Ash Ketchum|Ash]] and [[Ash's friends|co.]] helped to return the Jynx to her owner.

Jynx was also in a Pokémon stage show for ''[[EP090|Stage Fight]]''.

[[Lorelei|Prima]] owns a Jynx. She used it to send [[Team Rocket]] flying in ''[[EP099|The Mandarin Island Miss Match]]''.

A [[Nurse Joy]] from the unaired episode, ''[[EP250|The Ice Cave!]]'', owned a Jynx. [[Brock]] almost kissed this Human-Shaped Pokémon during his sickly state.

A Jynx was also used by a girl named [[Erica]] in the [[Pacifidlog Town]] Contest in ''[[AG115|Mean With Envy]]'' and ''[[AG116|Pacifidlog Jam]]''.

A trio of Jynx sisters were in ''[[AG168|Three Jynx and a Baby]]''. These three Jynx were overly-protective towards a Smoochum that was their sister. The Smoochum evolved into a Jynx at the end of the episode.

==In the manga==
Jynx's most notable role is being under the ownership of [[Lorelei]] in [[Pokémon Special]]. Lorelei's Jynx is noted for having the ability to generate voodoo dolls out of ice using its {{m|Ice Beam}}. When Lorelei draws crosses on any part of the dolls using her lipstick, ice shackles form on the specified body parts of her targets, eventually freezing the victim over completely. Even after the victims are broken free, the freeze induces lasting numbness in the areas where it was applied. Both {{Special|Red}} and [[Sabrina]] suffered this condition and had to seek a cure atop [[Mt. Silver]] by bathing in the hotsprings there.

Another ability of Lorelei's Jynx is revealed in the [[Sevii Islands]] saga: it can create a wispy band of ice around targets, with which Lorelei can use to track down using her powder case.

==In the TCG==
{{main|Jynx (TCG)}}

==Game data==
===Pokédex entries===
{{Dex
|type=ice
|gen=1
|redbluedex=It seductively wiggles its hips as it walks. It can cause people to dance in unison with it.
|yellowdex=Appears to move to a rhythm of its own, as if it were dancing. It wiggles its hips as it walks.
|stadiumdex=Talks in a strange, incomprehensible language. It is known for its weird wiggling that causes people to dance.
|golddex=It rocks its body rhythmically. It appears to alter the rhythm depending on how it is feeling.
|silverdex=It speaks a language similar to that of humans. However, it seems to use dancing to communicate.
|crystaldex=It has several different cry patterns, each of which seems to have its own meaning.
|stadium2dex=It rocks its body rhythmically. It appears to alter the rhythm depending on how it is feeling.
|rubydex=Jynx walks rhythmically, swaying and shaking its hips as if it were dancing. Its motions are so bouncingly alluring, people seeing it are compelled to shake their hips without giving any thought to what they are doing
|sapphiredex=Jynx walks rhythmically, swaying and shaking its hips as if it were dancing. Its motions are so bouncingly alluring, people seeing it are compelled to shake their hips without giving any thought to what they are doing
|emeralddex=A Jynx sashays rhythmically as if it were dancing. Its motions are so bouncingly alluring, people seeing it are compelled to shake their hips without noticing.
|firereddex=It speaks using a language that sounds human. Research is under way to determine what is being said.
|leafgreendex=It seductively wiggles its hips as it walks. It can cause people to dance in unison with it.
|diamonddex=It cries sound like human speech. However, it is impossible to tell what it is trying to say.
|pearldex=It cries sound like human speech. However, it is impossible to tell what it is trying to say.
|}}

===Game locations===
{{Availability|
type=ice |
gen=1 |
rbrarity=One |
rbarea=[[Trade]] {{p|Poliwhirl}} in [[Cerulean City]] |
gsrarity=Rare |
gsarea=[[Ice Path]] |
crarity=Rare |
carea=[[Ice Path]] |
frlgrarity=One |
frlgarea=[[Trade]] {{p|Poliwhirl}} in [[Cerulean City]] |
dparea=[[Evolve]] {{p|Smoochum}} |
palarea=Field |
}}
====In side games====

{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #{{ice color}};"
! Game
! Location
|-
| [[Pokémon Snap]]
| [[Pokémon Island Cave|Cave]]
|-
| [[Pokémon Trozei!]]
| Endless Level 62 Endless Level 79 Forever Level 12 Mr. Who's Den
|-
| [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon]]
| Evolve from {{p|Smoochum}}
|-
| [[Pokémon Ranger]]
| [[Panula Cave]]
|-
| [[Pokémon Ranger Batonnage]]
| [[The Ice Lake]] [[Almia Castle]]
|}

===Base stats===
{{BaseStats with RBY|
HP=65 |
Attack=50 |
Defense=35 |
SpAtk=115 |
SpDef=95 |
Special=95 |
Speed=95 }}

===Type effectiveness===
{{DP Type effectiveness|
Normal= 100 |
Flying= 100 |
Fighting=100 |
Ground= 100 |
Rock= 200 |
Bug= 200 |
Poison= 100 |
Ghost= 200 |
Steel= 200 |

Fire= 200 |
Water= 100 |
Grass= 100 |
Electric=100 |
Psychic= 50 |
Ice= 50 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 200 }}

In [[Generation I]], the effectiveness of {{t|Ghost}}-type moves is 0.

===Learnset===
{{Learnset intro|Jynx}}
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====
{| align="center"
|-
| valign="top" |
{| border=1 align="center" style="background: #f8f8f8; border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #{{ice color}};"
! colspan="3" | [[Generation I]]
|- style="background: #{{psychic color}};"
! [[Level]]
! [[Move]]
! [[Type]]
|-
| rowspan="3" | Start || {{M|Pound}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| {{M|Lick}} || {{ic|Ghost}}
|-
| {{M|Lovely Kiss}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| 15 || {{M|Sing}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| 23 || {{M|DoubleSlap}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| 31 || '''{{M|Ice Punch}}''' || {{ic|ice}}
|-
| 39 || {{M|Body Slam}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| 47 || {{M|Thrash}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| 58 || '''{{M|Blizzard}}''' || {{ic|ice}}
|}

| valign="top" |
{| border=1 align="center" style="background: #f8f8f8; border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #{{ice color}};"
! colspan="3" | [[Generation II]]
|- style="background: #{{psychic color}};"
! [[Level]]
! [[Move]]
! [[Type]]
|-
| rowspan="4" | Start || {{M|Pound}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| {{M|Lick}} || {{ic|Ghost}}
|-
| {{M|Lovely Kiss}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| '''{{M|Powder Snow}}''' || {{ic|ice}}
|-
| 21 || {{M|DoubleSlap}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| 25 || '''{{M|Ice Punch}}''' || {{ic|ice}}
|-
| 35 || {{M|Mean Look}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| 41 || {{M|Body Slam}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| 51 || {{M|Perish Song}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| 57 || '''{{M|Blizzard}}''' || {{ic|ice}}
|}

| valign="top" |
{| border=1 align="center" style="background: #f8f8f8; border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #{{ice color}};"
! colspan="3" | [[Generation III]]
|- style="background: #{{psychic color}};"
! [[Level]]
! [[Move]]
! [[Type]]
|-
| rowspan="4" | Start || {{M|Pound}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| {{M|Lick}} || {{ic|Ghost}}
|-
| {{M|Lovely Kiss}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| '''{{M|Powder Snow}}''' || {{ic|ice}}
|-
| 9 || {{M|Lovely Kiss}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| 13 || '''{{M|Powder Snow}}''' || {{ic|ice}}
|-
| 21 || {{M|DoubleSlap}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| 25 || '''{{M|Ice Punch}}''' || {{ic|ice}}
|-
| 35 || {{M|Mean Look}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| 41 || {{M|Fake Tears}} || {{ic|dark}}
|-
| 51 || {{M|Body Slam}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| 57 || {{M|Perish Song}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| 67 || '''{{M|Blizzard}}''' || {{ic|ice}}
|}

| valign="top" |
{| border=1 align="center" style="background: #f8f8f8; border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #{{ice color}};"
! colspan="4" | [[Generation IV]]
|- style="background: #{{psychic color}};"
! [[Level]]
! [[Move]]
! [[Type]]
! [[Damage category|Cat.]]
|-
| rowspan="4" | Start || {{M|Pound}} || {{ic|Normal}} || {{ic|Physical}}
|-
| {{M|Lick}} || {{ic|Ghost}} || {{ic|Physical}}
|-
| {{M|Lovely Kiss}} || {{ic|Normal}} || {{ic|Status}}
|-
| '''{{M|Powder Snow}}''' || {{ic|ice}} || {{ic|Special}}
|-
| 5 || {{M|Lick}} || {{ic|Ghost}} || {{ic|Physical}}
|-
| 8 || {{M|Lovely Kiss}} || {{ic|Normal}} || {{ic|Status}}
|-
| 11 || '''{{M|Powder Snow}}''' || {{ic|ice}} || {{ic|Special}}
|-
| 15 || {{M|DoubleSlap}} || {{ic|Normal}} || {{ic|Physical}}
|-
| 18 || '''{{M|Ice Punch}}''' || {{ic|ice}} || {{ic|Physical}}
|-
| 21 || {{M|Mean Look}} || {{ic|Normal}} || {{ic|Status}}
|-
| 25 || {{M|Fake Tears}} || {{ic|dark}} || {{ic|Status}}
|-
| 28 || {{M|Wake-Up Slap}} || {{ic|Fighting}} || {{ic|Physical}}
|-
| 33 || '''{{M|Avalanche}}''' || {{ic|ice}} || {{ic|Physical}}
|-
| 39 || {{M|Body Slam}} || {{ic|Normal}} || {{ic|Physical}}
|-
| 41 || {{M|Wring Out}} || {{ic|Normal}} || {{ic|Special}}
|-
| 49 || {{M|Perish Song}} || {{ic|Normal}} || {{ic|Status}}
|-
| 55 || '''{{M|Blizzard}}''' || {{ic|ice}} || {{ic|Special}}
|}
|}

====By [[TM]]/[[HM]]====
{| align="center"
|-
| valign="top" |
{| border=1 align="center" style="background: #f8f8f8; border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #{{ice color}};"
! colspan="3" | [[Generation I]]
|- style="background: #{{psychic color}};"
! [[TM|#]]
! [[Move]]
! [[Type]]
|-
| TM01 || {{m|Mega Punch}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| TM05 || {{m|Mega Kick}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| TM06 || {{m|Toxic}} || {{ic|Poison}}
|-
| TM08 || {{m|Body Slam}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| TM09 || {{m|Take Down}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| TM10 || {{m|Double-Edge}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| TM11 || {{m|BubbleBeam}} || {{ic|Water}}
|-
| TM12 || {{m|Water Gun}} || {{ic|Water}}
|-
| TM13 || '''{{m|Ice Beam}}''' || {{ic|Ice}}
|-
| TM14 || '''{{m|Blizzard}}''' || {{ic|Ice}}
|-
| TM15 || {{m|Hyper Beam}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| TM17 || {{m|Submission}} || {{ic|Fighting}}
|-
| TM18 || {{m|Counter}} || {{ic|Fighting}}
|-
| TM19 || {{m|Seismic Toss}} || {{ic|Fighting}}
|-
| TM20 || {{m|Rage}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| TM29 || '''{{m|Psychic}}''' || {{ic|Psychic}}
|-
| TM30 || {{m|Teleport}} || {{ic|Psychic}}
|-
| TM31 || {{m|Mimic}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| TM32 || {{m|Double Team}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| TM33 || {{m|Reflect}} || {{ic|Psychic}}
|-
| TM34 || {{m|Bide}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| TM35 || {{m|Metronome}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| TM40 || {{m|Skull Bash}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| TM44 || {{m|Rest}} || {{ic|Psychic}}
|-
| TM46 || '''{{m|Psywave}}''' || {{ic|Psychic}}
|-
| TM50 || {{m|Substitute}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|}

| valign="top" |
{| border=1 align="center" style="background: #f8f8f8; border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #{{ice color}};"
! colspan="3" | [[Generation II]]
|- style="background: #{{psychic color}};"
! [[TM|#]]
! [[Move]]
! [[Type]]
|-
| TM01 || {{m|DynamicPunch}} || {{ic|Fighting}}
|-
| TM02 || {{m|Headbutt}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| TM03 || {{m|Curse}} || {{ic|Unknown}}
|-
| TM06 || {{m|Toxic}} || {{ic|Poison}}
|-
| TM09 || {{m|Psych Up}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| TM10 || {{m|Hidden Power}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| TM12 || {{m|Sweet Scent}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| TM13 || {{m|Snore}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| TM14 || '''{{m|Blizzard}}''' || {{ic|Ice}}
|-
| TM15 || {{m|Hyper Beam}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| TM16 || '''{{m|Icy Wind}}''' || {{ic|Ice}}
|-
| TM17 || {{m|Protect}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| TM18 || {{m|Rain Dance}} || {{ic|Water}}
|-
| TM20 || {{m|Endure}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| TM21 || {{m|Frustration}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| TM27 || {{m|Return}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| TM29 || '''{{m|Psychic}}''' || {{ic|Psychic}}
|-
| TM30 || {{m|Shadow Ball}} || {{ic|Ghost}}
|-
| TM31 || {{m|Mud-Slap}} || {{ic|Ground}}
|-
| TM32 || {{m|Double Team}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| TM33 || '''{{m|Ice Punch}}''' || {{ic|Ice}}
|-
| TM34 || {{m|Swagger}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| TM35 || {{m|Sleep Talk}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| TM41 || {{m|ThunderPunch}} || {{ic|Electric}}
|-
| TM42 || '''{{m|Dream Eater}}''' || {{ic|Psychic}}
|-
| TM44 || {{m|Rest}} || {{ic|Psychic}}
|-
| TM45 || {{m|Attract}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| TM46 || {{m|Thief}} || {{ic|Dark}}
|-
| TM50 || {{m|Nightmare}} || {{ic|Ghost}}
|}

| valign="top" |
{| border=1 align="center" style="background: #f8f8f8; border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #{{ice color}};"
! colspan="3" | [[Generation III]]
|- style="background: #{{psychic color}};"
! [[TM|#]]
! [[Move]]
! [[Type]]
|-
| TM01 || {{m|Focus Punch}} || {{ic|Fighting}}
|-
| TM03 || {{m|Water Pulse}} || {{ic|Water}}
|-
| TM04 || {{m|Calm Mind}} || {{ic|Psychic}}
|-
| TM06 || {{m|Toxic}} || {{ic|Poison}}
|-
| TM07 || {{m|Hail}} || {{ic|Ice}}
|-
| TM10 || {{m|Hidden Power}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| TM12 || {{m|Taunt}} || {{ic|Dark}}
|-
| TM13 || '''{{m|Ice Beam}}''' || {{ic|Ice}}
|-
| TM14 || '''{{m|Blizzard}}''' || {{ic|Ice}}
|-
| TM15 || {{m|Hyper Beam}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| TM16 || {{m|Light Screen}} || {{ic|Psychic}}
|-
| TM17 || {{m|Protect}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| TM18 || {{m|Rain Dance}} || {{ic|Water}}
|-
| TM21 || {{m|Frustration}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| TM27 || {{m|Return}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| TM29 || '''{{m|Psychic}}''' || {{ic|Psychic}}
|-
| TM30 || {{m|Shadow Ball}} || {{ic|Ghost}}
|-
| TM31 || {{m|Brick Break}} || {{ic|Fighting}}
|-
| TM32 || {{m|Double Team}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| TM33 || {{m|Reflect}} || {{ic|Psychic}}
|-
| TM41 || {{m|Torment}} || {{ic|Dark}}
|-
| TM42 || {{m|Facade}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| TM43 || {{m|Secret Power}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| TM44 || {{m|Rest}} || {{ic|Psychic}}
|-
| TM45 || {{m|Attract}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| TM46 || {{m|Thief}} || {{ic|Dark}}
|-
| TM48 || {{m|Skill Swap}} || {{ic|Psychic}}
|-
| HM05 || {{m|Flash}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|}

| valign="top" |
{| border=1 align="center" style="background: #f8f8f8; border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #{{ice color}};"
! colspan="4" | [[Generation IV]]
|- style="background: #{{psychic color}};"
! [[TM|#]]
! [[Move]]
! [[Type]]
! [[Damage category|Cat.]]
|-
| TM01 || {{m|Focus Punch}} || {{ic|Fighting}} || {{ic|Physical}}
|-
| TM03 || {{m|Water Pulse}} || {{ic|Water}} || {{ic|Special}}
|-
| TM04 || {{m|Calm Mind}} || {{ic|Psychic}} || {{ic|Status}}
|-
| TM06 || {{m|Toxic}} || {{ic|Poison}} || {{ic|Status}}
|-
| TM07 || {{m|Hail}} || {{ic|Ice}} || {{ic|Status}}
|-
| TM10 || {{m|Hidden Power}} || {{ic|Normal}} || {{ic|Special}}
|-
| TM12 || {{m|Taunt}} || {{ic|Dark}} || {{ic|Status}}
|-
| TM13 || '''{{m|Ice Beam}}''' || {{ic|Ice}} || {{ic|Special}}
|-
| TM14 || '''{{m|Blizzard}}''' || {{ic|Ice}} || {{ic|Special}}
|-
| TM15 || {{m|Hyper Beam}} || {{ic|Normal}} || {{ic|Special}}
|-
| TM16 || {{m|Light Screen}} || {{ic|Psychic}} || {{ic|Status}}
|-
| TM17 || {{m|Protect}} || {{ic|Normal}} || {{ic|Status}}
|-
| TM18 || {{m|Rain Dance}} || {{ic|Water}} || {{ic|Status}}
|-
| TM21 || {{m|Frustration}} || {{ic|Normal}} || {{ic|Physical}}
|-
| TM27 || {{m|Return}} || {{ic|Normal}} || {{ic|Physical}}
|-
| TM29 || '''{{m|Psychic}}''' || {{ic|Psychic}} || {{ic|Special}}
|-
| TM30 || {{m|Shadow Ball}} || {{ic|Ghost}} || {{ic|Special}}
|-
| TM31 || {{m|Brick Break}} || {{ic|Fighting}} || {{ic|Physical}}
|-
| TM32 || {{m|Double Team}} || {{ic|Normal}} || {{ic|Status}}
|-
| TM33 || {{m|Reflect}} || {{ic|Psychic}} || {{ic|Status}}
|-
| TM41 || {{m|Torment}} || {{ic|Dark}} || {{ic|Status}}
|-
| TM42 || {{m|Facade}} || {{ic|Normal}} || {{ic|Physical}}
|-
| TM43 || {{m|Secret Power}} || {{ic|Normal}} || {{ic|Physical}}
|-
| TM44 || {{m|Rest}} || {{ic|Psychic}} || {{ic|Status}}
|-
| TM45 || {{m|Attract}} || {{ic|Normal}} || {{ic|Status}}
|-
| TM46 || {{m|Thief}} || {{ic|Dark}} || {{ic|Physical}}
|-
| TM48 || {{m|Skill Swap}} || {{ic|Psychic}} || {{ic|Status}}
|-
| TM52 || {{m|Focus Blast}} || {{ic|Fighting}} || {{ic|Special}}
|-
| TM53 || {{m|Energy Ball}} || {{ic|Grass}} || {{ic|Special}}
|-
| TM56 || {{m|Fling}} || {{ic|Dark}} || {{ic|Physical}}
|-
| TM58 || {{m|Endure}} || {{ic|Normal}} || {{ic|Status}}
|-
| TM60 || {{m|Drain Punch}} || {{ic|Fighting}} || {{ic|Physical}}
|-
| TM66 || {{m|Payback}} || {{ic|Dark}} || {{ic|Physical}}
|-
| TM67 || {{m|Recycle}} || {{ic|Normal}} || {{ic|Status}}
|-
| TM68 || {{m|Giga Impact}} || {{ic|Normal}} || {{ic|Physical}}
|-
| TM70 || {{m|Flash}} || {{ic|Normal}} || {{ic|Status}}
|-
| TM72 || '''{{m|Avalanche}}''' || {{ic|Ice}} || {{ic|Special}}
|-
| TM77 || {{m|Psych Up}} || {{ic|Normal}} || {{ic|Status}}
|-
| TM78 || {{m|Captivate}} || {{ic|Normal}} || {{ic|Status}}
|-
| TM82 || {{m|Sleep Talk}} || {{ic|Normal}} || {{ic|Status}}
|-
| TM83 || {{m|Natural Gift}} || {{ic|Normal}} || {{ic|Physical}}
|-
| TM85 || '''{{m|Dream Eater}}''' || {{ic|Psychic}} || {{ic|Special}}
|-
| TM86 || {{m|Grass Knot}} || {{ic|Grass}} || {{ic|Special}}
|-
| TM87 || {{m|Swagger}} || {{ic|Normal}} || {{ic|Status}}
|-
| TM90 || {{m|Substitute}} || {{ic|Normal}} || {{ic|Status}}
|-
| TM92 || {{m|Trick Room}} || {{ic|Psychic}} || {{ic|Status}}
|}
|}

====By [[breeding]]====
*{{m|Fake Out}}
*'''{{m|Ice Punch}}'''
*{{m|Meditate}}
*{{m|Miracle Eye}}
*{{m|Psych Up}}
*{{m|Wish}}

====[[TCG|TCG]]-only Moves====
*{{m|Helping Hand}} {{ic|Normal}}
*{{m|Fire Punch}} {{ic|Fire}}
*{{m|Confuse Ray}} {{ic|Ghost}}

===Side game data===

{{Side game|
type=ice |
ndex=124 |
Pincatch=yes |
Trozei=yes |
rarity=Rare |
Dungeon=yes |
body=1 |
rate=Evolve |
area=Frigid Cavern |
P1= ∞XO@#*~♪ ∞XO@#*~♪ |
P2= !!O@#*~! !!O@#*~! |
P3= !!!!!!~! !!!!!!~! |
PL= ∞XO@#*~♪♪♪ ∞XO@#*~♪♪♪ |
Partner=no |
Ranger=yes |
typeG= Psychic |
typeA= Psychic |
field= None |
loop=9 |
MinEXP=68 |
MaxEXP=82 |
browser= Jynx swings its hips as if it's dancing while walking. Beware of its kiss attack! |
Ranger2=yes |
typeG2= Psychic |
typeA2= Psychic |
field2= Teleport |
}}

===Evolution===
{| border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="margin: auto;"
|-
| rowspan="2" |
{{EvoChart Box|
text=Baby |
image=238.png |
name=Smoochum }}
|
| rowspan="2" |
{{EvoChart Box|
text=Level 30 |
image=124.png |
name=Jynx }}
|}

===Sprites===
{{Sprite|
type=psychic|
gen=1|
gender=none|
ndex=124|
name=Jynx|
}}

==Trivia==
* Before Generation IV, Jynx was the only Ice-type Pokémon that was able to learn {{m|Ice Punch}} by leveling up.
* Jynx is one of the few Pokémon who naturally learn a [[move]] in a game in one generation, but then never learn it in again in another generation, in this case the move is {{m|Thrash}}.
*For a time it was believed that the black representing Jynx's face in the original [[Generation I]] version was actually a nothingness, a lack of form instead of Jynx's actual body (kind of like {{P|Gastly}} and {{P|Cloyster}} in its main body being composed of only a rather featureless black orb with various decoration on it, in this case, a dress, wig, and possibly gloves held up by Jynx's psychic power). This is more apparent in the original [[Pokémon Stadium]] when after being defeated, Jynx's body would suddenly disappear leaving only a empty dress and blond wig to fall to the floor in a pile.
*In The Mandarin Island Miss Match episode Loreli commands her Jynx to use Ice Beam but the moves looks more like Ice Punch.

===Controversy===
[[Image:Controversial Jynx.jpg|thumb|right|The original design of Jynx, that is considered to be a racist stereotype of African-Americans.]]
The original design of the Pokémon Jynx bore a striking, but possibly coincidental, resemblance to entertainers in [[wp:blackface|blackface]]. A strong case can be made for Jynx being a parody of or homage to the Japanese [[wp:Ganguro|Ganguro]] and Yamanba fashion trends, which were extremely popular when Pokémon was first released, but it can't be denied that blackface-influenced characters have appeared elsewhere in anime and manga - examples can be found near the beginning of Osamu Tezuka's early graphic novel, [[wp:Metropolis (manga)|Metropolis]] and also can be found with Dragon Ball Z's Mr. Popo.

As Pokémon became more popular in the US, this perceived similarity to a racist image from America's past offended some. In particular, it had offended children's book author Carole Boston Weatherford, who accused Jynx of being a racist stereotype in an article titled Politically Incorrect Pokémon in the magazine Black World Today, shortly after the anime episode [[Holiday Hi-Jynx]] aired. Episodes later on are also either banned or cut in USA.

In response to this controversy, in 2002, [[Nintendo]] changed Jynx's face from black to purple and its hands from blue to purple in Pokémon games, a change which would be reflected in the anime three years later in Advanced Generation.

===Origin===
What Jynx is based on is a controversial topic within the fandom, although common interpretations are a Nordic woman (possibly [[wp:Hel (goddess)|Hel]], goddess of the underworld), or ガン黒 ''[[wp:Ganguro|ganguro]]'', ''face-black''. Also, the fact that Jynx are depicted as Santa's helpers in the anime can be a proof that Jynx is based on [[wp:Zwarte Piet|Zwarte Piet]].

Jynx may also have origins in the Japanese spirits known as [[wp:Yuki Onna|Yuki Onna]] (who has no feet like Jynx) or [[wp:Yama Uba|Yama Uba]], the latter of which is described as always wearing a tattered red kimono and having whitish-blonde hair (all traits shared by Jynx).
====Name origin====
A ''[[wp:Jinx|jinx]]'' is a curse or hex of bad luck. ''Rougela'' appears to be a feminized version of ''[[wp:Rouge|rouge]]'', a type of makeup.

==In other languages==
*[[List of German Pokémon names|German]]: Rossana
*[[List of French Pokémon names|French]]: Lippoutou
*[[List of Korean Pokémon names|Korean]]: 루주라 ''Rujura''

==External links==
*[[wp:Jynx (Pokémon)|Article on Wikipedia]]

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