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Talk:Aerilate (Ability)

2014-03-12T17:18:35Z

Malake256:

== 30% boost? ==

*I'm assuming that's only due to the fact that the [[Mega Pinsir|only Pokémon]] that has this ability gets [[STAB]] from Flying type moves which really gives those moves a 50% boost. Same with [[Refrigerate|the]] [[Pixilate|others]], though no mention on {{a|Normalize}}? Guess I'm trying to understand the pattern here and whatnot since it makes less sense to me. ----[[User:NateVirus|NateVirus]]''([[User talk:NateVirus|Talk]]''|''[[Special:Contributions/NateVirus|Contributions]]'') 19:46, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

**I interpreted it as giving a 30% on top of STAB. Maybe someone calculated it out, but forgot to account for Mega Pinsir's ~30% base attack boost? [[User:Malake256|Malake256]] ([[User talk:Malake256|talk]]) 17:18, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

Template talk:User Action Replay

2012-01-26T04:56:49Z

Malake256: /* Change Arceus to Action Replay Logo */

== Change Arceus to Action Replay Logo ==

Seems kind of stupid to use the Arceus sprite for Action Replay (unless it's because you can use an Action Replay to obtain a shiny Arceus when normal game code will not allow it). --[[User:Wildgoosespeeder|Wildgoosespeeder]] 02:45, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
:I'm no admin or anything, but I'm pretty positive that we ''can't'' use the Action Replay logo(due to copyright reasons and so on). Heck, if you go to the [[Action Replay]] page, you'll find that although there is a picture of an Action Replay box, there isn't a picture of an Action Replay Logo. [[User:Wildgoose|Wild]][[User talk:Wildgoose|goose]]-[[Special:Contributions/Wildgoose|The friendly goose in town!]] 23:39, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
::I'm sure we can use the Action Replay logo, but Bulbapedia's notice boxes seem to have a tradition of having Pokémon as the pictures, as there always seems to be a Pokémon that matches the description. In this case, Arceus is one of few Pokémon that you can't legitimately have shiny, so if you see one, its owner action replayed it. [[User:Malake256|Malake256]] 04:56, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

Template talk:Catch

2012-01-26T04:53:27Z

Malake256: /* Pokémon outbreak */

==suggestion==
really like this new template. i have been thinking for some time, since the japanese blue pokemon is different from others, shouldn't we have another colume for it? -[[User:Pokeant|Pokeant]] 17:59, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
EDIT: under location for areas such as pokemon tower and the mansion in kanto, should we put is as grass or cave? or maybe we should think of something else. plus, fossils should be under rate instead of location such as the old template in [[Cinnabar Island]]. hope feedback is useful. -[[User:Pokeant|Pokeant]] 18:27, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
:For buildings, just put floor numbers. The default is stairs for that very reason. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:49, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

==Catch3a==
Can also be used on [[Altering Cave]]. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 08:55, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

== Uneven column widths... ==

...are uneven. Is this a hard-to-correct problem, or is there some other reason that the column widths aren't fixed to custom percentages...? [[User:Ztobor|Ztobor]] 17:31, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

== update bw table ==

the time does not affect the pokemon, but seasons. we should change is to reflect the season instead of the time. also, there should be other entries for the double pokemon grass (i think it is a darker version of the grass, and other new mechanics in the game, such as special spot in caves which may give item or pokemon etc. -[[User:Pokeant|Pokeant]] 17:35, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

== Ilex Forest ==

It needs some king of special option for wild Pokémon available there. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 02:00, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

== Pokémon outbreak ==

Can someone good with templates please fix the parameters so that "Swarm" links to [[Pokémon outbreak]] instead of Mass Outbreak. This will fix several links that are currently redirects. Thank you. [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 22:24, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
:Anyone? [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 01:19, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
::Someone that can bypass protection can do it, i.e. an admin. It's in the individual Catch/x templates. [[User:Malake256|Malake256]] 04:53, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

Harvest (Ability)

2011-12-30T21:51:06Z

Malake256: grammar

{{AbilityInfobox
|name=Harvest
|jpname=しゅうかく
|jptrans=Harvest
|jptranslit=Shūkaku
|colorscheme=berries
|gen=5
|text5=May create another Berry after one is used.
}}

'''Harvest''' (Japanese: '''しゅうかく''' ''Harvest'') is an [[Ability]] introduced in [[Generation V]]. Three [[Pokémon (species)|Pokémon]] have this Ability, all of which are {{type2|Grass}} Pokémon. This Ability is exclusively obtained through the {{pkmn|Dream World}}.

==Effect==
===In battle===
When the user uses a held [[Berry]], there is a 50% chance of it being restored at the end of each turn. Harvest remembers the held Berry even if it fails to restore it or if the Pokémon has switched out. Harvest will always activate in {{weather|intense sunlight}}.

Harvest can recover Berries consumed by {{m|Fling}} and {{m|Natural Gift}}, but not Berries lost by {{m|Thief}}, {{m|Covet}}, {{m|Trick}}, {{m|Switcheroo}}, {{m|Bestow}}, {{m|Bug Bite}}, or {{m|Pluck}}. Harvest cannot restore a Berry if it is collected by a Pokémon with {{a|Pickup}}.

Harvest will not activate more than once per turn. If the held Berry is consumed immediately after it is restored, Harvest will not be able to restore it again until the next turn.

Harvest can recover Berries consumed that were originally another Pokémon's, but transferred to the Pokémon with Harvest via {{m|Thief}}, {{m|Covet}}, {{m|Trick}}, {{m|Switcheroo}}, {{m|Bestow}}, or {{a|Pickup}}. However, a Pokémon may only have one consumed item (including non-Berries) at a time; if a Pokémon consumes a Berry, obtains another item and consumes it, the original consumed Berry cannot be restored, even if the second item is restored and swapped away. If the Pokémon with Harvest obtains an item after consuming a Berry, Harvest can still restore the old Berry as long as the Pokémon has no hold item and did not consume any other items (including non-Berries) since consuming the old Berry.

===Outside of battle===
Harvest has no effect outside of battle.

==Pokémon with Harvest==
{{Ability/head|berries}}
{{Ability/entry|102|Exeggcute|Grass|Psychic|Chlorophyll|None|Harvest}}
{{Ability/entry|103|Exeggutor|Grass|Psychic|Chlorophyll|None|Harvest}}
{{Ability/entry|357|Tropius|Grass|Flying|Chlorophyll|Solar Power|Harvest}}
{{Ability/foot|berries}}

==In other languages==
{{Langtable|color={{berries color}}|bordercolor={{berries color dark}}
|fr=Récolte
|de=Reiche Ernte
|it=Coglibacche
|pt=Colheita
|es=Cosecha}}
{{-}}
{{Project Moves and Abilities notice}}

[[de:Reiche Ernte]]
[[fr:Récolte]]
[[it:Coglibacche (abilità)]]
[[ja:しゅうかく]]

Rest (move)

2011-12-19T23:10:16Z

Malake256:

{{MoveInfobox|
n=156 |
name=Rest |
jname=ねむる |
jtrans=Sleep |
jtranslit=Nemuru |
desc=The user goes to sleep for two turns. It fully restores the user's HP and heals any status problem. |
gameimage=Rest.png |
type=Psychic |
damagecategory=Status |
basepp=10 |
maxpp=16 |
power=— |
accuracy=— |
gen=I |
category=Cute |
appeal=2 |
jam=0 |
cdesc=Can avoid being startled by others once. |
appealsc=0 |
scdesc=Increased Voltage is added to the performance score. |
pokefordex=rest |
touches=no |
protect=no |
magiccoat=no |
snatch=yes |
brightpowder=no |
kingsrock=no |
flag7=yes |
flag8=no |
sound=no |
target=self|
tm1=yes|
tm#1=44|
tm2=yes|
tm#2=44|
tm3=yes|
tm#3=44|
tm4=yes|
tm#4=44|
tm5=yes|
tm#5=44|
na=no|
footnotes= }}
'''Rest''' (Japanese: '''ねむる''' ''Sleep'') is a non-damaging {{type2|Psychic}} [[move]] introduced in [[Generation I]].

==Effect==
Rest causes the user to fall {{status|Sleep|asleep}}, restoring its HP to its maximum amount. The user will then be asleep for two turns, and wake up on the third turn. The sleep countdown of Rest is not reset by switching.

Any major status ailments the user is affected by will be cured in all aspects, though a glitch in [[Generation I]] games causes the stat reductions associated with {{status|paralysis}} and {{status|burn}} to remain despite the fact that the Pokémon no longer has that status. The damage done by {{m|Toxic}} is also not reset in Generation I, and will continue from where it left off in amount if it is used again. {{m|Safeguard}} will not prevent usage of Rest, and the user of Safeguard will still sleep the full three turns. If a Pokémon with the {{a|Early Bird}} ability uses Rest, its ability still applies and the Pokémon turn's asleep will be rounded down from three to one. Rest will automatically fail if used by a Pokémon with {{a|Insomnia}} or {{a|Vital Spirit}}, as these [[Ability|Abilities]] prevent them from falling asleep.

Rest will fail if the user has full HP, but will also fail in Generation I if the user's maximum HP is 256 or 511, and their HP is one less than that amount.

===Generation I===
The user will awaken from Rest two turns after it is used.

===Generation II and on===
The user will awaken from Rest three turns after it is used.

==Learnset==
===By [[Level|leveling up]]===
{{Moveheader/Level|Psychic|1}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|039|Jigglypuff|1|Normal|Normal|29|29|29|25|29}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|086|Seel|1|Water|Water|40|21|29|21|21}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|087|Dewgong|2|Water|Ice|44|21|29|21|21}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|143|Snorlax|1|Normal|Normal|--|36|28|FRLG=25|25|28}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|128|Tauros|1|Normal|Normal|no|34|34|19|19}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|161|Sentret|1|Normal|Normal|no|33|40|28|28}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|162|Furret|1|Normal|Normal|no|38|48|32|32}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|213|Shuckle|2|Bug|Rock|no|37|37|27|PtHGSS=35|25}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|216|Teddiursa|1|Normal|Normal|no|29|31|43|43}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|217|Ursaring|1|Normal|Normal|no|29|31|47|47}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|263|Zigzagoon|1|Normal|Normal|no|no|37|37|41}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|264|Linoone|1|Normal|Normal|no|no|47|47|53}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|293|Whismur|1|Normal|Normal|no|no|41|41|45}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|294|Loudred|1|Normal|Normal|no|no|51|51|57}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|295|Exploud|1|Normal|Normal|no|no|55|55|55}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|299|Nosepass|1|Rock|Rock|no|no|37|43|43}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|320|Wailmer|1|Water|Water|no|no|37|27|27}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|321|Wailord|1|Water|Water|no|no|37|27|27}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|325|Spoink|1|Psychic|Psychic|no|no|37|29|29}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|326|Grumpig|1|Psychic|Psychic|no|no|43|29|29}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|339|Barboach|2|Water|Ground|no|no|26|31|31}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|340|Whiscash|2|Water|Ground|no|no|26|33|33}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|363|Spheal|2|Ice|Water|no|no|37|37|37}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|364|Sealeo|2|Ice|Water|no|no|39|39|39}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|365|Walrein|2|Ice|Water|no|no|39|39|39}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|369|Relicanth|2|Water|Rock|no|no|50|64|64}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|382|Kyogre|1|Water|Water|no|no|50|50|HGSS=no|no}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|383|Groudon|1|Ground|Ground|no|no|50|50|HGSS=30|50}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|384|Rayquaza|2|Dragon|Flying|no|no|50|50|HGSS=30|50}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|385|Jirachi|2|Steel|Psychic|no|no|5, 30|5, 30|5, 30}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|476|Probopass|2|Rock|Steel|no|no|no|43|43}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|480|Uxie|1|Psychic|Psychic|no|no|no|--|--}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|481|Mesprit|1|Psychic|Psychic|no|no|no|--|--}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|482|Azelf|1|Psychic|Psychic|no|no|no|--|--}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|613|Cubchoo|1|Ice|Ice|no|no|no|no|41}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|614|Beartic|1|Ice|Ice|no|no|no|no|41}}
{{Movefooter|Psychic|1}}

===By [[TM]]===
{{Moveheader/TM|Psychic|1|TM44|TM44|TM44|TM44|TM44}}
{{Moveentry/AllTM|Rest|1|except=Regigigas}}
{{Movefooter|Psychic|1}}

==Other appearances==
* Jigglypuff uses Rest as its down B attack in the [[Super Smash Bros.]] series. Its effect is vastly different than its Pokémon game counterpart, as rather than healing the player, it launches the opponent into the air and plants a damage-inflicting flower on their head (in Brawl) or sets them on fire (in Melee and the original SSB). This is a close range attack, using it even right next to the target will fail. Jigglypuff must be extremley close to the opponent for the attack to work; otherwise it will fall asleep doing no damage and leaving itself open to attacks.

==In the anime==
{{moveanime|type=psychic|exp=yes|gen=The user falls asleep, healing all injuries and status problems.|image1=Harley Octillery Rest.png|image1p=Octillery|image2=Brandon Regice Rest.png|image2p=Regice|image3=Ash Snorlax Rest.png|image3p=Snorlax|image4=Aya Venonat Rest.png|image4p=Venonat}}
{{movep|type=psychic|ms=048|pkmn=Venonat|method=Venonat falls asleep and lays down its antennas. As it sleeps it recovers all its energy.}}
{{movemid|type=psychic|user=Aya|user1=Aya's Venonat|startcode=EP137|startname=Ariados, Amigos|notes=Debut}}
{{movep|type=psychic|ms=221|pkmn=Piloswine|method=Piloswine glows blue and falls asleep. As it sleeps it recovers all its energy.}}
{{movemid|type=psychic|user=Pryce's Piloswine|startcode=EP237|startname=As Cold As Pryce}}
{{movep|type=psychic|ms=143|pkmn=Snorlax|method=Snorlax falls asleep. As it sleeps it recovers all of its energy.}}
{{movemid|type=psychic|user=Marcel|user1=Marcel's Snorlax|startcode=AG088|startname=The Garden of Eatin'}}
{{movemid|type=psychic|user=Ash's Snorlax|startcode=AG149|startname=Wheel of Frontier}}
{{movep|type=psychic|ms=224|pkmn=Octillery|method=Octillery falls asleep and a bright green aura surrounds its body. As it sleeps, it recovers energy and nullifies any damage taken while sleeping.}}
{{movemid|type=psychic|user=Harley|user1=Harley's Octillery|startcode=AG160|startname=Harley Rides Again}}
{{movep|type=psychic|ms=446|pkmn=Munchlax|method=Munchlax falls asleep. As it sleeps, it recovers all of its energy.}}
{{movemid|type=psychic|user=May's Munchlax|startcode=AG162|startname=Spontaneous Combusken!|notes=Used via {{color2|{{psychic color dark}}|Metronome (move)|Metronome}}}}
{{movep|type=psychic|ms=378|pkmn=Regice|method=Regice falls asleep and its body glows bright blue. As it sleeps it recovers all of its energy.}}
{{movebtm|type=psychic|user=Brandon's Regis#Regice|user1=Brandon's Regice|startcode=AG190|startname=Pace - The Final Frontier!}}

==In the manga==

===Pokémon Adventures===
{{movemanga|type=psychic|exp=yes|gen=The user sleeps to restore lost energy.|image1=Snor Rest.png|image1p=Snorlax|image2=Platinum Rapidash Rest.png|image2p=Rapidash}}
{{movep|type=psychic|ms=143|pkmn=Snorlax|method=Snorlax goes to sleep, restoring lost energy and HP.}}
{{movemid|type=psychic|user=Red (Adventures)|user1=Red's Snor|startcode=PS115|startname=Forretress of Solitude|notes=Debut}}
{{movep|type=psychic|ms=130|pkmn=Gyarados|method=Gyarados goes to sleep, restoring all of its lost energy and healing all of its wounds.}}
{{movemid|type=psychic|user=Red Gyarados|user1=Silver's Gyarados|startcode=PS289|startname=Viridian in the Heart}}
{{movep|type=psychic|ms=078|pkmn=Rapidash|method=Rapidash falls to the ground and goes to sleep, restoring any lost HP and regaining all of its energy.}}
{{movebtmManga|type=psychic|user=Platinum's Rapidash|startcode=PS388|startname=VS. Froslass}}

==In other generations==
{{movegen|
type=Psychic|
genI=Rest I|
genII=Rest II|
genIII=Rest III|
genIV=Rest IV|
}}
{{Movegen|
type=psychic|
Stad=Rest Stadium|
}}

==Trivia==
* Although Rest does not deal any damage in the normal games, in the [[Super Smash Bros.]] series, Jigglypuff's Rest attack unleashes an internal explosion that sends any opponent it touches flying, almost always ending in a KO.
* It is possible to teach Rest to Pokémon with the abilities {{a|Insomnia}} and {{a|Vital Spirit}}, even though they are immune to the Sleep status effect. In these cases Rest will fail, provided their ability has not been {{m|Skill Swap}}ped away or neutralized.
* According to [[Webster (Johto)|Webster]]'s friend in Johto, "Rest" is a contraction for "Recover fast."

==In other languages==
{{Langtable|color={{psychic color}}|bordercolor={{psychic color dark}}
|zh_cmn=睡覺 ''Shuìjiào''
|fr=Repos
|de=Erholung
|el=Ανάπαυση
|id=Tidur
|it=Riposo
|ko=잠자기 ''Jamjagi''
|pt=Descansar
|sr=Odmor
|es=Descanso}}
{{-}}

{{Generation I TMs}}
{{Generation II TMs}}
{{Generation III TMs}}
{{Generation IV TMs}}
{{Generation V TMs}}

{{Project Moves and Abilities notice}}

[[de:Erholung]]
[[es:Descanso]]
[[fr:Repos]]
[[it:Riposo (mossa)]]
[[ja:ねむる]]
[[pl:Rest]]
[[pt:Rest]]

Talk:Tauros (Pokémon)

2011-12-05T04:35:49Z

Malake256: /* Taurus */ new section

==Tauros <-> Miltank?==

In the articles, it is said that Tauros and Miltank are Male/Female equivalents. I don't think this is true. --[[User:PikamasterADV|PikamasterADV]] 02:22, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
:Well, I imagine that's Nintendo's intent... but is there concrete proof? Like, will breeding Miltank with anything end with a Tauros from the egg? Heck, is there that sort of connection between the Nidos or Volbeat and Illumise? Should something be mentioned, perhaps in Evolutions, of very closely related Pokémon? Such as, Plusle appearing next to Minun in its article, or both Nido families being in the evo area of all six? I've wanted to put something like that in there for a while, but I dunno how appropriate it'd be...

:I suppose, though, it's like the Hitmonlee/chan relation that was theory before GS proved it. But should we acknowledge stuff like it here? [[User:TTEchidna|Tom Temprotran]] 06:18, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
::It's not that hard to confirm experimentally. (Of course, myself neither a Nidoran♀ nor Miltank nor Illumise to breed poses a problem...) - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]][[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]] 07:40, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
:::Yeah, but still, something closely related like Plusle and Minun can't produce mixed children, Minuns make Minuns, Plusles make Plusles. But they're still closely related. It's like... eh, Latios and Latias, or the three members of a legendary trio. Closely related, but still separate. And as far as I know, the female-only counterparts only produce their own species of children, with males needed to be bred by way of Ditto, but I could be wrong with the Nidoran families.

:::But you know what I mean... Like Pokémon that sort of play off each other, as counterparts instead of relatives. Sort of like... the Eeveelutions if you cut Eevee out of the picture. If you didn't know they all evolved from the same Pokémon, you'd in the very least suspect some relation, right? But how far would we go with this thing? Do the Hitmons and Jynx count as counterparts? What about Electabuzz and Magmar? Every time a new member of one of their evolution lines was added, so was a member of the other at the same stage, which evolves to or from it with a similar method, and falls next to it in the National Dex in the same order. Are Feebas and Magikarp related? Zangoose and Seviper? All of the Fossil Pokémon? Manaphy and Phione? Should they be put in the evolution section with each other?

:::Anyone? Thoughts? [[User:TTEchidna|Tom Temprotran]] 10:42, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

::::Evolution sets should only be those provable to be related to each other. This includes the Nidoran families, since a Female Nidoran can have baby Male Nidorans. No provable relationship exists between {{P|Magmar}} and {{P|Electabuzz}}, or between {{P|Tauros}} and {{P|Miltank}}.[[User:User142|User142]] ([[User talk:User142|Talk]]) 13:52, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::Why are you including Magmar and Electabuzz in this mess? They come in both genders--[[User:Pokencyclopedia|Pokencyclopedia]] 16:09, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::They're pretty similar, that's why. They both can learn the other's punch move by breeding or move tutor, both got a baby form in Gen II and an evolution in Gen IV... They go through the same evolution processes, baby > lv30 > basic > trade with Booster item > evo, so I dunno. They just seem very similar to me. Anyway, should the Nido families be interlinked, then, since you can get Nidoran male eggs from a Nidoran female? [[User:TTEchidna|Tom Temprotran]] 20:07, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::::I think this question should be asked at the talk page of [[Talk:Nidoran♀ (Pokémon)|female Nidoran]](where I copied the question to) or [[Talk:Nidoran♂ (Pokémon)]]. [[User:User142|User142]] ([[User talk:User142|Talk]]) 13:15, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

I could have sworn Tauros and Miltank were related, but I guess they aren't. I put a Tauros and Miltank in the daycare and got 10 eggs. All 10 of them hatched into Miltank. So either I have '''''extremely''''' bad luck, or they are not counterparts and any such references to them as such should be removed from Bulbapedia. [[User:DanPMK|MK]] 07:48, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
:I just hatched 10 more eggs from Tauros and Ditto in the daycare together. All 10 of them became Tauros. Has anyone actually gotten a Tauros from a Miltank's egg, or a Miltank from a Tauros+Ditto's egg? Seems to me this is just wishful thinking and not an actual relation. [[User:DanPMK|MK]] 11:42, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
::I think there's sufficient absence of evidence to be taken as evidence of absence (of relationship, that is). - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]][[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]] 14:37, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
:::That's fanwanking. They are two different Pokémon --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 17:21, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
::::Taros and Miltank are not counterparts, even though they are similiar. Boy, the whole Pokémon world is going to be astonished. - [[User:FireHazard|Hazardous FIRE!]] 00:40, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
:::::uh...dont want to start an agrument, but yes they are.[[User:ShinyPikachu|Shiny]] [[User:ShinyPikachu|'''Pika''']] 22:27, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
::::::You do realize that is from 2008, right. Anyways, they aren't confirmed to be counterparts and the only evidence for it is the cow/bull thing. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 22:44, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Sorry to continue the conversation, but there ''is'' more evidence than that. They're both mono-gender Normal-types with base stat totals of 490, their Special Attack and Special Defense are identical, and they're always found in the same locations when not in a Safari Zone (with the strange exception of the HG/SS-only Routes 47 and 48, which each contain only one.) Diamond and Pearl treated them as counterparts, as (when using the Pokeradar on the routes that include them, 209 and 210), their rarities are swapped between the two games, with Platinum giving them the same chances, while all Johto-based games have them with equal rarity on Route 39 and almost-equal on Route 38 (Crystal fixed that, making them exactly equal again.) In fact, though this one is a bit of a reach, Miltank is found in Colosseum's final dungeon, and Tauros in XD's final dungeon. It may not be "officially" official, but there's a lot more to it than them just being cattle. --[[User:HeroicJay|HeroicJay]] 12:14, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

== Ground-type ==

I've got a memory that Tauros was at least once said that it was Ground-type in the anime. Maybe if someone knows when, we can mention it... for sure, I can't remember when...--[[User:Dragonbeastx|DRAGON]][[User talk:Dragonbeastx|BEAST]][[User:Dragonbeastx/The Aura Spot|X]] 09:14, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
:Are you associating Tauros using Fissure with it being a Ground-type? Me and my fellow torchics agree on this - [[User:Sk8torchic|Sk8torchic]]. 20:13, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

== Name Origin ==

I don't think Tauros' name is derived from centaur. They share a common root - taurus, Latin for "bull".

== Worth mentioning? ==

Does anyone think that it's necessary to say that the creator of serebii caught every Pokémon '''except''' this one? [[User:Arrogios|Arrogios]] 23:10, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
:No. It isn't notable at all. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 23:20, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

== Red/Green Pic, WTH?? ==

Okay, ''why'' is artwork from Red and Green being used as the main image for this article? I got the distinct feeling that around here the main artwork was always the most modern artwork of said Pokémon/Character.--[[User:Black Yin Zekrom|Black Yin Zekrom]] 00:50, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:The PokéInfobox template rotates the images every so often. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 00:59, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

It's never done that before. On top of that, when looking at revisions, it shows the modern artwork. If that isn't enough, I tried editing the page, and in the area that told what versions the picture is from, it showed "FRLG".--[[User:Black Yin Zekrom|Black Yin Zekrom]] 01:00, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
::Hmm... I saw that already, though... the most recent edit is 7/4/10. I dunno. That edit isn't anything special, just upgrading the roundy. Lemme check the PokéInfobox of Tauros. Sorry. When editing, it allows me to preview (preferences), and well, the image is of the current games (FRLG). [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 01:06, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:::I heard it was because today is red and green's birthday. >-> [[User:Littlmiget123|Littlmiget123]] 01:18, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Exactly! The article shows the Red/Green image, yet the template is saying FRLG. The template or something is just being wierd.

@Littlemiget123: Pikachu and Nidoran (male) are showing modern artwork.--[[User:Black Yin Zekrom|Black Yin Zekrom]] 01:23, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
::::That's true LM123, but there would be an edit within the PokémonInfobox, wouldn't it? Hmm... oh right, it's already within the template. Though, previewing it cancels the effect... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 01:25, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::Well, earlier some images didn't show as RG artwork, but when I previewed them, they turned to RG. Now it is the opposite. I think it takes a while for the image change to take effect where it should. So even though it is September 2nd, it still shows as RG artwork for the same reason some pages still showed FRLG artwork. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 01:33, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

I don't get what you're saying. What I do know however, is that for some reason, most articles are showing Red/Green artwork, while a few (Pikachu, Aerodactyl, Mew, Nidoran, and others most likely) are still showing their proper FR/LG artwork.--[[User:Black Yin Zekrom|Black Yin Zekrom]] 01:36, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:At the beginning of the day, all the pictures turned to Red and Green artwork. Some pictures didn't change cause it had to be hard refreshed or something. So they showed as FRLG artwork. Now it is Sept. 2nd on the server time, so the images are starting to change back, but slowly. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 01:42, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

And why do the templates still say "FRLG"?--[[User:Black Yin Zekrom|Black Yin Zekrom]] 01:59, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:Server caching. Everything is slowly turning back to normal. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:08, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

== Adding ==

I'm going to add
Due to their similar appearance and identical typing, it was speculated that Bouffalant would evolve from Tauros upon Bouffalant's introduction to the public.{{unsigned|Emeraldben}}
:It was really unpopular theory; when Bouffalant was revealed in September, we already knew that no old Pokémon are in the Unova Dex.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|電禅]][[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|Den Zen]]''' 14:50, 27 July 2011 (UTC)
** Yeah but its added in to the Luvdisc and alomamola one {{unsigned|Emeraldben}}
:Alomomola was announced in July. Wasn't that before we knew about there only being new Pokémon in the Unova Dex? - [[User:Blazios|Blazios]] [[User Talk:Blazios|talk]] 15:00, 27 July 2011 (UTC)
*** Yeah but it says it was speculated, people also thought the same with tauros even though it was reveled, plans had been changed before {{unsigned|Emeraldben}}
:: Difference is, the people who thought Bouffalant was related to Tauros were idiots who can't follow logic, where as the Alomomola/Luvdisc relation was very widely speculated. Also, sign your post using four tildes (a tilde is ~). - [[User:Blazios|Blazios]] [[User Talk:Blazios|talk]] 15:06, 27 July 2011 (UTC)
****Well there's no need for that / and can't we atleast write it in tauros' page that it could of been related to Bouffalant due to their similar apperances despite having no connection what so ever? [[User:Emeraldben|Emeraldben]] 15:11, 27 July 2011 (UTC)
:::No, because it was specifically stated before Bouffalant's announcement that the Unova would have all new Pokémon. Those who speculated did so using completely faulty logic, as their thoughts contradicted something we were directly told. - [[User:Blazios|Blazios]] [[User Talk:Blazios|talk]] 15:39, 27 July 2011 (UTC)
::::...Thats why Pokes introduced afterwards would be known to not have connections to the past.[[User:Blitzamirin| ~ Blitzamirin ~ ]] 15:41, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

== The graceful aurochs ==

Feel free to yell at me, but I've got a strong feeling that Tauros also took inspiration from an aurochs. [[User:Jhuyu26|'~Jhuyu26', user of Generation V glitch Pokémon -----!]] 04:26, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

== Taurus ==

Clicked the link to the wikipedia page for Taurus, it says Taurus is the second astrological sign, punching holes in the origin section's "three" theory. [[User:Malake256|Malake256]] 04:35, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

Zelda Wiki

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'''Zelda Wiki''', previously known as '''ZeldaWiki.org''' is a wiki-based encyclopedia which aims to collect any and all information related to [[Nintendo]]'s ''{{zw|The Legend of Zelda (Series)|The Legend of Zelda}}'' franchise. It is a collaborative project between several different ''{{zw|The Legend of Zelda (Series)|Zelda}}'' sites. Zelda Wiki is run on wiki software, meaning that anyone may edit the articles provided they register a user account.

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WiKirby

2011-07-28T22:32:13Z

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On October 8, 2010, WiKirby announced merger plans with Kirby Wiki, one of the various wikis on the wiki farm Wikia. Plans were mostly inspired by the new mandatory skin. However, the merge was soon cancelled due to lack of initiative.
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Lylat Wiki

2011-07-28T22:30:00Z

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'''Lylat Wiki''' is a wiki based on the Star Fox franchise. It joined the [[Nintendo Independent Wiki Alliance]], of which [[Bulbapedia]] is a founding member, on October 1, 2010.

On October 19, 2010, Lylat Wiki announced plans to merge with [http://starfox.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page Arwingpedia], one of the various wikis on the wiki farm Wikia. The merger began on October 25, 2010 and ended May 25, 2011

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Pikmin Fanon

2011-07-28T22:28:22Z

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Founded by Rocky0718 in November, 2008 on Wikia, the wiki stayed there for a point of almost two years. On September 14, 2010, the wiki moved to its current domain with the help of [[Super Mario Wiki]] head Porplemontage. The wiki also persuaded [[Pikipedia]] to move to the same domain, with Pikmin Fanon taking a different spot on it.

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StrategyWiki

2011-07-28T22:27:28Z

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As of October 25, 2010, it has guides for 3,595 games, 470 of which are complete.

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SmashWiki

2011-07-28T22:25:21Z

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'''SmashWiki''' is a wiki devoted to the Super Smash Bros. series of games.

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WikiBound

2011-07-28T22:24:56Z

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'''WikiBound''' is a wiki dedicated to the EarthBound/Mother series of games. It was created in February 2010 by Tacopill.

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Donkey Kong Wiki

2011-07-28T22:24:07Z

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'''Donkey Kong Wiki''', often shortened to '''DKWiki''', is a wiki devoted to the ''Donkey Kong'' series of games, as well as relevant ''Mario'' information.

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The site was founded on May 25, 2008, two days after the Mario Party Wikia was founded. The two were former sister sites until the DKWikia's move. Initially, contributors from both sites helped, but after a short period of time, the Donkey Kong Wiki saw a drop in activity. There were low community efforts, and the Wikia version founder himself stopped contributing. Thus desperateness led whatever users were left to take article content and images from [[Super Mario Wiki]] in order to make up for what wasn't on the wiki already. However, even after, the wiki was still short of many, many articles and the remaining users abandoned the wiki, save for some random contributors.

The site later saw a revival in activity once current site leader HavocReaper48 joined the project. He, being a large ''{{dk|Donkey Kong Country}}'' fan himself, helped overhaul the site with a spark of activity thanks to his own efforts and additional help from editors from various wikis (notably [[SmashWiki]]). He quickly became an administrator and later bureaucrat. One of the older inactive admins, The Forgotten Beast, even came back out of a hiatus.

However, the site experienced much trouble when Wikia had made its "Oasis" skin mandatory. This skin, which was an extremely controversial decision made by the Wikia Staff, forced the wiki to secede from Wikia in order to continue the emphasis on content. Thanks to the help of Porplemontage, Donkey Kong Wiki is now a proud member of the Nintendo Independent Wiki Alliance.

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Nookipedia

2011-07-28T22:23:28Z

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'''Nookipedia''', originally known as '''Animal Crossing Wiki''', is a wiki devoted to the Animal Crossing series of games. It was originally two wikis, one independent, one hosted by Wikia.

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Golden Sun Universe

2011-07-28T22:22:54Z

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'''Golden Sun Universe''' is a wiki devoted to compile a complete, thorough, and dynamic repository of information relating to the {{gsu|Golden Sun series}} of role-playing fantasy video games and related media, developed by {{gsu|Camelot Software Planning}} and produced by [[Nintendo]]. It was originally founded at PBwiki, then moved to Wikia, but became independent to be affiliated with NIWA.

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Starfy Wiki

2011-07-28T22:21:53Z

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'''The Legendary Starfy Wiki''', often referred to as simply '''Starfy Wiki''', is a wiki focusing on {{lsw|The Legendary Starfy (series)|The Legendary Starfy}} video game series. Starfy Wiki was established in May 2009 by BattleFranky202. Starfy Wiki joined [[Nintendo Independent Wiki Alliance|NIWA]] on April 28, 2011, making it the second wiki to join in 2011, and the eighteenth overall.

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NintendoWiki

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'''NintendoWiki''', also known as '''N-Wiki''', is a collaborative project by the NIWA team to create an encyclopedia dedicated to Nintendo, being the organization around which all other NIWA content is focused. It ranges from mainstream information such as the games and people who work for the company, to the most obscure info like patents and interesting trivia.

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On May 12, 2010, several months after the idea was pitched, [[Archaic]] finally set up the servers and opened up NintendoWiki. However, it was kept secret from the public to ensure a peaceful development before launch. The first articles were slowly created, with information coming from the three founding wikis of NIWA.

After the wiki had many days of little to no editing, {{u|TTEchidna}} joined and essentially became {{nw|User:RAP|RAP}}'s second in command. This brought new ideas and changes that helped to stabilize the wiki and increased the speed of the wiki's development

On December 10, 2010 the wiki was officially revealed to the public and joined NIWA.

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Fire Emblem Wiki

2011-07-28T22:20:39Z

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The '''Fire Emblem Wiki''' is a wiki devoted to the {{few|Fire Emblem (series)|Fire Emblem series}} that has joined the [[Nintendo Independent Wiki Alliance]]. It was created on August 26, 2010 by a user referred to as Eliwood, or Yusei. It joined the Nintendo Independent Wiki Alliance on April 20th, 2011, the anniversary of the release of the first Fire Emblem game in Japan.

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Metroid Wiki

2011-07-28T22:16:33Z

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Priority

2011-02-28T19:51:57Z

Malake256: /* Priority moves */

'''Priority''' refers to the order in which Trainers' commands are followed during a battle. Under normal circumstances, the priority of a [[move]] used in a {{pkmn|battle}} is determined by the {{Stat|Speed}} statistic of the Pokémon using the move. However, a move may have a different priority value, which can cause that move to always go before or after ordinary moves. Using [[items]] and [[recall|switching Pokémon]] will almost always precede a Pokémon's move.

Each move has a hidden priority value in the game data, ranging from <tt>+7</tt> to <tt>-7</tt>. Most moves are ordinary, and have <tt>0</tt> priority. Moves that always go before ordinary priority moves have ''increased'' priority and priority values greater than zero. Examples include moves such as {{m|Quick Attack}} and {{m|ExtremeSpeed}}. Moves that always go after ordinary priority moves have ''decreased'' priority and priority values less than zero. Examples of decreased priority moves are {{m|Counter}} and {{m|Roar}}. Moves with effects that last an entire turn, such as {{m|Protect}} or {{m|Magic Coat}}, have much higher priority to ensure that the move is used at the start of the turn.

Moves that have the same priority are said to be in the same ''priority bracket''. When two moves of equal priority, such as when both {{m|Aqua Jet}} and {{m|Bullet Punch}}, are used in the same turn, the Pokémon with the higher Speed will act first.

Move priority is not changed by the effects of {{m|Trick Room}}, which only reverses the order of moves ''within a priority bracket''. Increased priority moves still go first, and decreased priority moves still go last.

When a Pokémon uses a move, some held items and abilities cause it to go last within its priority bracket, ignoring even Trick Room. The items [[Incense#Full Incense|Full Incense]] and [[Lagging Tail]] and the ability {{a|Stall}} have this effect, but do not change the priority of any moves.

==Priority moves==
{| align="center" style="background: #fff; {{roundy}} border: 5px solid #333399"
|-
! style="background: #333399; color:white; {{roundytl|5px}}" | Priority
! style="background: #333399; color:white; {{roundytr|5px}}" | Moves
|- style="background: #D8D8F2;"
| align="center" | <tt>+7</tt>
| {{m|Pursuit}}{{tt|*|if the opponent switches a Pokémon}}
|- style="background: #E5F2D8;"
| align="center" | <tt>+6</tt>
| [[Recall|Switching out]], [[Rotation battle|rotating]], using [[item]]s
|- style="background: #D8D8F2;"
| align="center" | <tt>+5</tt>
| {{m|Helping Hand}}
|- style="background: #E5F2D8;"
| align="center" | <tt>+4</tt>
| {{m|Magic Coat}}, {{m|Snatch}}
|- style="background: #D8D8F2;"
| align="center" | <tt>+3</tt>
| {{m|Anger Powder}}, {{m|Detect}}, {{m|Endure}}, {{m|Follow Me}}, {{m|Protect}}, {{m|Fake Out}}, {{m|Fast Guard}}
|- style="background: #E5F2D8;"
| align="center" | <tt>+2</tt>
| {{m|Feint}}, {{m|ExtremeSpeed}}{{tt|*|+1 prior to Generation V}}
|- style="background: #D8D8F2;"
| align="center" | <tt>+1</tt>
| {{m|Aqua Jet}}, {{m|Bide}}{{tt|*|0 prior to Generation IV}}, {{m|Bullet Punch}}, {{m|ExtremeSpeed}}{{tt|*|+2 in Generation V}}, {{m|Ice Shard}}, {{m|Mach Punch}}, {{m|Quick Attack}}, {{m|Shadow Sneak}}, {{m|Sucker Punch}}, {{m|Vacuum Wave}}, {{m|Side Change}}
|- style="background: #E5F2D8;"
| align="center" | <tt>0</tt>
| all other [[move]]s
|- style="background: #D8D8F2;"
| align="center" | <tt>-1</tt>
| {{m|Vital Throw}}
|- style="background: #E5F2D8;"
| align="center" | <tt>-2</tt>
| ''none''
|- style="background: #D8D8F2;"
| align="center" | <tt>-3</tt>
| {{m|Focus Punch}}
|- style="background: #E5F2D8;"
| align="center" | <tt>-4</tt>
| {{m|Avalanche}}, {{m|Revenge}}{{tt|*|0 prior to Generation IV}}
|- style="background: #D8D8F2;"
| align="center" | <tt>-5</tt>
| {{m|Counter}}, {{m|Mirror Coat}}
|- style="background: #E5F2D8;"
| align="center" | <tt>-6</tt>
| {{m|Roar}}, {{m|Whirlwind}}, {{m|Dragon Tail}}, {{m|Overhead Throw}}
|- style="background: #D8D8F2;"
| align="center" | <tt>-7</tt>
| {{m|Trick Room}}, {{m|Wonder Room}}, {{m|Magic Room}}
|}

==Trivia==
* Since {{m|Focus Punch}} has a higher priority than {{m|Avalanche}}, {{m|Revenge}}, {{m|Dragon Tail}}, {{m|Overhead Throw}}, and {{m|Counter}}, they are unable to break the focus of a Pokémon using Focus Punch. Thus, they are the only five attacks that can strike a Pokémon in the same turn it successfully uses Focus Punch.
* Until [[Generation IV]], there were no moves that had a priority of +2, -4, or -7, and there still has yet to be a move with a priority of -2.

[[Category:Game mechanics]]

[[es:Prioridad de Movimientos]]

[[de:Priorität]]

Template talk:Evobox

2011-02-26T21:04:13Z

Malake256: /* Sprite Links */ new section

Please note: THIS DOES NOT WORK WITH MULTIFORMS, EEVEE, TYROGUE, OR BURMY YET. Please do not touch them. The others, go for it. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 17:16, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

==Problem==
The evolutionary items are redirects... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 02:22, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
:And you linked to [[Beauty]] for Feebas/Milotic instead of the contest (somewhat important).--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 20:28, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

== Max beauty vs high beauty ==

See [[Talk:Milotic (Pokémon)#Max_Beauty|this]], which would require this template to be edited. '''[[User:Myles|Myles]]''' ([[User talk:Myles|talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Myles|contrib]]) 01:43, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

== Complicated stuff ==

Although the coding for most of these will be murder but I, for one, am willing to help with some of the simpler stuff at least. Here are some of my ideas for the complicated evoboxes and could serve as a checklist:
===Branchers===
*<s>{{p|Eevee}} (7 evolutions; 3 stones, 2 hapinness/time, 2 location/levels)</s>
*<s>{{p|Tyrogue}} (baby, 3 evolutions; all dependant on stats)</s>

===Formes===
*{{p|Pichu}} (IMHO, add a second non-categorizing evobox beneath its real one with only Notchie, no trigger image though)
*<s>{{p|Unown}} (28 rotating formes, I can work on this one,</s> ''no trigger images?'')
*<s>{{p|Spinda}}</s> (ah ha ha!!!!!!)
*<s>{{p|Castform}} (4 formes; ''maybe in a square?'',</s> triggers: {{Bag|Heat Rock}}/{{Bag|TM Fire}}, {{Bag|Damp Rock}}/{{Bag|TM Water}}, {{Bag|Icy Rock}}/{{Bag|TM Ice}}?)
*<s>{{p|Deoxys}} (4 formes; ''maybe in a square?'',</s> triggers: {{Bag|Ruby}}/{{Bag|Red Orb}}/{{Bag|Red Orb IV}}/[[File:Ds ruby.png]] + {{Bag|Sapphire}}/{{Bag|Blue Orb}}/{{Bag|Blue Orb IV}}/[[File:Ds sapphire.png]], {{ene|Fire}}/[[File:Ds firered.png]], {{ene|Grass}}/[[File:Ds leafgreen.png]], and {{bag|Jade Orb}}/[[File:Ds emerald.png]].
*<s>{{p|Cherrim}} (2 formes after 1 evo, I can work on this one,</s> trigger:{{Bag|Heat Rock}}/{{Bag|TM Fire}}?)
*<s>{{p|Shellos}}/{{p|Gastrodon}} (2 formes each, neither one can change so we could do this with 2 tables,</s> or maybe {{Bag|Town Map}} as a trigger.
*<s>{{p|Rotom}} (6 formes,</s> triggers: ''the appliances sprites?''
*<s>{{p|Giratina}} (2 formes,</s> triggers: {{Bag|Griseous Orb}} + {{Bag|Town Map}}).
*<s>{{p|Shaymin}} (2 formes,</s> trigger: {{Bag|Gracidea}}),
*<s>{{p|Arceus}} 18 rotating formes, I can work on this one,</s> trigger: [[Plate]]s)

===Both===
*<s>{{p|Burmy}} (3 Formes; 2 evos, 1 w/ formes, 1 w/o,</s> perhaps a larger table around which demonstrates that it can change forms with {{Bag|Town Map}}/[[File:hgss grass.png]], [[File:hgss cave.png|30px]], [[File:hgss door.png]])
*<s>{{p|Wormadam}} (3 Formes; evolve from 1 forme each, maybe 3 tables,</s> perhaps a larger table around which demonstrates that Burmy can change forms with {{Bag|Town Map}}/[[File:hgss grass.png]], [[File:hgss cave.png|30px]], [[File:hgss door.png]].)
*<s>{{p|Mothim}} (evolves from 1 w/ formes that changes with {{Bag|Town Map}}/[[File:hgss grass.png]], [[File:hgss cave.png|30px]], [[File:hgss door.png]].)</s>

Hope this is clear enough, its getting late here, I'd love to see comments on this.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 03:25, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

The list has been edited to reflect the fact that the seperate evoboxes have all been created but the Formes still lack triggers...--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 03:15, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

== 4+ family evolutions ==

Is there any way to edit this so that 4 family evolutions like for glitches can appear? [[User:1ted59|1t]][[User talk:1ted59|ed]][[Glitch Pokémon|59]] 19:07, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
:{{u|SnorlaxMonster}} was working on a separate template for glitches. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 19:35, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
::{{u|SnorlaxMonster/GlitchEvobox}} That's it there, but I'm simply not skilled enough to do four stages. Right now I'm trying to fix up the glitch images on the archives, but I will try to do it without breaking it after that. If you can do template coding well, that would be a help. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|Snorlax]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|Monster]]. Help [[User:SnorlaxMonster/GlitchEvobox|here]] 02:15, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

== Edit request ==

This should link to, say, [[Evolutionary stone#Moon Stone]] rather than just [[Moon Stone]]. '''[[User:CuboneKing|Cubone]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]]''' ([[User talk:CuboneKing|Planet Cubone]] • [[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|Bone Club]]) 18:37, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
:There's nothing wrong with the redirect. Doing otherwise is complicated given the nature of this template. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:59, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

==4 stage?==

I remember another user wanted to make a 4-stage box for [[44Hy]]. It goes to [[Q]] at 6...BUT! It can evolve, at lv. 239, to [[Glitch (CA)]], who evolves to [[Q]], who evolves to ゥゥ♂. ALL at level 239.
And acknowledge that someone else has brought this situation up...[[User:Dry Bones|Db]] 23:53, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
:Pretty sure [[Template:GlitchEvobox|this template]] can support that. Always use the glitch evobox for glitches, not the normal one. ▫▪''[[User:Tina|Ťïňắ]]'' [[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|♥]] 23:57, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

== May I make a request? ==

In place of "Does not evolve", the description should say "This Pokémon is not known to evolve". Thanks. 
~~'''''[[User:LDEJRuff|LDE]][[User_talk:LDEJRuff|JRuff]]'''''~~([[Special:Contributions/LDEJRuff|Happy Halloween]]) October 31, 2010, 18:59 (EDT)
:Well I could do that but it would make it too long, and it isn't really necessary. If the Pokémon is then found to evolve, we add the evolution. It does not currently evolve, so that is still correct. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 23:08, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

== Sprite Links ==

I think the sprites should link to the Pokémons' pages rather than to the file. Would that be too much work? [[User:Malake256|Malake256]] 21:04, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

Template talk:Availability

2011-02-21T18:43:36Z

Malake256:

Someone should add a way to include the levels that the Pokémon can appear at. --[[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]][[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Shiny Noctowl|Contribs]][[Image:Ani480MS.gif]] 20:53, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
:The trouble is that the levels are all over the place for Pokémon that appear in lots of areas. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 22:13, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
::Plus the areas they're in often have the levels listed. Check out {{rt|209}}. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 00:51, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

== Platinum ==

I think that we should add a Platinum slot after the Diamond and Pearl slot and before the pal park slot. --[[User: 23-03-33]] 17:10, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

== Columns ==

I think there needs to be an extra column under the title "method". Then you can put things like dongle, tall grass etc. At least then you don't have to put dongle in the rarity column. [[User:Tesh|'''TESH''']][[User_talk:Tesh|'''IGIGAS''']] 17:25, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
:It would clean up the surf/fish/etc out of the location column as well, and be more like the route info. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 23:35, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

== Curse these protected templates! Yet another edit request ==
:''Coding commented out due to deprecated links.''
-----

Could an admin perhaps update this template to my roundycornered variant above please. You'll also need to changewith sections of my second example there so that the text backgrounds are white. I'd do it myself but we have so cleverly protected all commonuse templates... {{tt|:(|good for stopping vandalism, but...}} Any confusion please hit up my talk page. Thanks! — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 22:46, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
:I think it will look better if the bottom left corner of the Generation IV cell and the bottom right corner of the Pal Park location cell were also rounded to 0.5em. — [[User:Laoris|Laoris]] ([[User_Talk:Laoris|Blah]]) 22:51, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
::Sure thing. I just copied the code from [[Template:Dex]]. I'll adjust it, then make ''another'' edit request at Template talk:Dex, for consistency. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 22:54, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
:::Okay. Unfortunately I think it requires edits to all four of the sub-templates. — [[User:Laoris|Laoris]] ([[User_Talk:Laoris|Blah]]) 22:59, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
::::I know... and they're all protected. TTE's just come online so maybe he'll sort it. Links for subs are in my original post, btw. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 23:19, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::I'm actually planning on roundycornering this one soon. Check out my idea for it: [[User:TTEchidna/Available]]. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:23, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
::::::Ooh, nice! Feel free to ignore all the above then. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 23:25, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

== Move Exclusives... ==

We should fix the parentheses here:

<nowiki>! style="background:#{{{{{type2|{{{type|???}}}}}} color light}}; -moz-border-radius-topleft: 10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft: 10px;" rowspan="2" {{!}} [[Generation II|{{color|000|II}}]]
! style="background:#{{#switch: {{{gen2ex}}}|rby|silver=FFFFFF|{{gold color}}}}" {{!}} [[Pokémon Gold and Silver Versions|{{color|{{#switch: {{{gen2ex}}}|rby|silver={{gold color}}|000}}|Gold}}]]
! style="background:#{{#switch: {{{gen2ex}}}|rby|gold=FFFFFF|{{silver color}}}}" {{!}} [[Pokémon Gold and Silver Versions|{{color|{{#switch: {{{gen2ex}}}|rby|gold={{silver color}}|000}}|Silver}}]]
{{!}} style="background:#FFFFFF;" {{!}} {{{gsrarity|None}}}
{{!}} style="background:#FFFFFF; -moz-border-radius-topright: 10px;" {{!}} {{{gsarea|[[Trade]]}}} {{#switch: {{{gen2ex}}}|silver=([[Version-exclusive Pokémon|{{color|{{silver color}}|Silver only</nowiki>''')'''<nowiki>}}]])|gold=([[Version-exclusive Pokémon|{{color|{{gold color}}|Gold only}}]])}}</nowiki>
 
AKA REMOVE. [[User:Ht14|''ht'']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 18:17, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
:I meant the parentheses...please...! [[User:Ht14|''ht'']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 11:02, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
::To clarify, is what you've posted the correct coding? — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 11:04, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
:::Never mind, figured it out. Thanks for the catch. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 11:07, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

== Sinnoh Pokemon In Pal Park ==

It ''is'' possible to use cheat codes to make ''Sinnoh'' Pokémon appear in Pal Park; so, shouldn't Sinnoh Pokémon have there Pal Park locations listed? [[User:Sivart345|--Sivart]][[User talk:Sivart345|3]][[Special:Contributions/Sivart345|4]][[User:Firestorm|'''5''']] 18:39, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
:I second that. After all, we do have the number of steps it takes to hatch Pokémon that are legally impossible to hatch from eggs, so I don't see why not with this. [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] wants YOU! [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch/Bulbapedia Branch|Join the Order of the Glitch!]] [[User talk: Missingno. Master|(my talk page)]] 18:43, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
::Good point. I'll even volunteer to get the Pokémon in Pal Park. [[User:Sivart345|--Sivart]][[User talk:Sivart345|3]][[Special:Contributions/Sivart345|4]][[User:Firestorm|'''5''']] 18:22, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
:::Though they should not be listed on the Pal Park page under the sections; they should be in their own section if they appear at all. And not be linked on the main pages. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:33, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
::::Huh? I didn't quite get that? I'm talking about on the Pokémon's page in the location template, that's where I think it should be shown. [[User:Sivart345|--Sivart]][[User talk:Sivart345|3]][[Special:Contributions/Sivart345|4]][[User:Firestorm|'''5''']] 17:45, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

== HGSS ==
Can someone change it so there is a hgss after dp?{{unsigned|Riolufan09}}
:I don't think so, not yet (: [[User:YukitoOoO|YukitoOoO]] 15:06, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

== Pokéwalker ==

HGSS's communication with Pokéwalker and Munchlax's availability there are interesting issues. Should we do like Pal Park and have a Pokéwalker thing under HGSS, or put the HGSS location as Pokéwalker if it's only found there? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:14, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
:That really would depend on the amount of Pokéwalker Pokémon. If there are a heap of different Pokémon available we really should list them. However, if it's just a couple of Pokémon then we can just put it in the HGSS row, perhaps with the actual location in brackets. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 07:27, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
::And of course then we gotta decide if PokéWalker availability counts more than breeder availability... (Munchlax, for example, since we know Snorlax is gonna be available in HGSS). I mean we do have a little hierarchy going right now... Catch > Breed > Trade > Pal Park... where would PokéWalker fit there, as equal to trading or Pal Park? Or elsewhere? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:12, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

== Possible bug - Platinum ==

Hi, just noticed that on Bulbasaur's page, Platinum appears coloured in whereas Diamond and Pearl don't, despite that Bulbasaur has the same availability in all three games. I looked at the source and noticed that Platinum was listed in exactly the same way as Diamond and Pearl, but appeared differently, so this seems to be a bug with the template. (I can't pretend to even slightly understand the wiki markup behind this template, so can't recommend a solution). [[User:Kidburla|Kidburla]] 13:00, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
:I noticed this with other Pokémon too. Bumping. [[User:Dragoness|Dragoness]] 09:44, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
::This should be fixed now. There was also a "bug" with some Crystal entries; these both stemmed from cross-generational importing like the Time Capsule and Pal Park. Yellow and Emerald should be fine. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 10:56, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

== Pal Park listing ==

Thinking about how the Pokéwalker should appear has got me thinking about Pal Park in general. I think it is a bit strange that Pal Park appears as a separate row on the template, as it isn't a separate game. Instead of this, I figure we list it on the individual row listings, as e.g. "[[Pal Park]] ([[List of Pokémon by Pal Park location#Field|Field]])" rather than just putting "[[Pal Park]]" on the game row and then putting "[[List of Pokémon by Pal Park location#Field|Field]]" on a separate Pal Park row, which we have currently. If that makes any sense! [[User:Kidburla|Kidburla]] 13:05, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

== Hoenn Sound ==
Could we possibly change the Hoenn Sound color to Ruby color light and Sapphire color light as the ones that we have currently are sort of actually hard to tell that they are hinting to Ruby and Sapphire and I think they aren't the greatest colors in general because they are so dark. Thanks. –'''[[User talk:MasterKenobi|Master]][[User:MasterKenobi|Kenobi]]''' 22:54, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
:I used {{template|hoenn color}} and {{template|sinnoh color}}. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 06:36, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

== Rarity ==

It's always bothered me. This is very subjective. Not only that, but it varies from location to location. I think that it could be kept to distinguish "Only one", "Wild", "Roaming", "Fossil" and "Gift" from each other, but it should not include thing like "Rare" and "Common". --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 08:05, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
:I think it's something that's meant to be the lowest common denominator or the most frequent rarity. But as I put somewhere in one of my early days editing here, what defines Rare and Common? —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 08:18, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

== Pokemon Blue (J) ==

This template, along with [[Template:Catch]], needs to be put in line with the other ones like the sprite templates and should specify "Blue" as the Japanese Green, and have separate entries for for the Japanese Blue version availabilities. Would this be difficult to do? I was thinking for Gen I:

<nowiki>

{| align="center" width="100%" style="{{#ifexpr: {{{gen|1}}} > 1|display:none;}} {{roundy|10px}} background: #{{{{{type|unknown}}} color}}; border-collapse: collapse;"
|-
| width="80px" align="center" style="{{roundytop|5px}} line-height:8pt; background:#{{kanto color light}};" | '''[[Generation I|{{color|000|Generation I}}]]'''
|
|-
| colspan="2" style="{{roundytr|10px}} {{roundybottom|10px}} background:#{{kanto color light}};" |
{| align="center" width="100%" style="{{roundy|10px}} background: #FFFFFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color light}};"
|-
! width="70px" style="{{roundyleft|16px}} background:#{{#switch: {{{gen1ex|}}}|none|blue=FFFFFF|{{red color}}}}; border: 2px solid #{{red color}}; line-height:12pt;" | [[Pokémon Red and Blue Versions|{{color|{{#switch: {{{gen1ex|}}}|none|blue={{red color dark}}|000}}|Red}}]]
! width="70px" style="{{roundyright|16px}} background:#{{#switch: {{{gen1ex|}}}|none|red=FFFFFF|{{blue color}}}}; border: 2px solid #{{blue color}}; line-height:12pt;" | [[Pokémon Red and Blue Versions|{{color|{{#switch: {{{gen1ex|}}}|none|red={{blue color dark}}|000}}|Blue}}]]
|
{| align="center" width="100%" style="{{roundy|12px}} background: #{{{{{type|unknown}}} color light}};"
| align="center" width="70px" | '''{{{rbrarity|None}}}'''
| style="{{roundyright|10px}} background:#FFFFFF;" | {{{rbarea|[[Trade]]}}}{{#switch: {{{gen1ex|}}}|red= [[Version-exclusive Pokémon|{{color|{{red color dark}}|(Red only)}}]]|blue= [[Version-exclusive Pokémon|{{color|{{blue color dark}}|(Blue only)}}]]}}
|}

|-
! colspan="2" width="140px" style="{{roundy|16px}} background:#{{#ifeq: {{{jbarea|[[Trade]]}}}|[[Trade]]|FFFFFF|{{blue color}}}}; border: 2px solid #{{blue color}}; line-height:12pt;" | [[Pokémon Blue Version (Japanese)|{{color|{{#ifeq: {{{jbarea|[[Trade]]}}}|[[Trade]]|{{blue color dark}}|000}}|Blue (J)}}]]
|
{| align="center" width="100%" style="{{roundy|12px}} background: #{{{{{type|unknown}}} color light}};"
| align="center" width="70px" | '''{{{jbrarity|None}}}'''
| style="{{roundyright|10px}} background:#FFFFFF;" | {{{jbarea|[[Trade]]}}}
|}

|-
! colspan="2" width="140px" style="{{roundy|16px}} background:#{{#ifeq: {{{yarea|[[Trade]]}}}|[[Trade]]|FFFFFF|{{yellow color}}}}; border: 2px solid #{{yellow color}}; line-height:12pt;" | [[Pokémon Yellow Version|{{color|{{#ifeq: {{{yarea|[[Trade]]}}}|[[Trade]]|{{yellow color dark}}|000}}|Yellow}}]]
|
{| align="center" width="100%" style="{{roundy|12px}} background: #{{{{{type|unknown}}} color light}};"
| align="center" width="70px" | '''{{{yrarity|None}}}'''
| style="{{roundyright|10px}} background:#FFFFFF;" | {{{yarea|[[Trade]]}}}
|}
|}
</nowiki>

Which would look like:


{| align="center" width="100%" style="{{#ifexpr: {{{gen|1}}} > 1|display:none;}} {{roundy|10px}} background: #{{{{{type|unknown}}} color}}; border-collapse: collapse;"
|-
| width="80px" align="center" style="{{roundytop|5px}} line-height:8pt; background:#{{kanto color light}};" | '''[[Generation I|{{color|000|Generation I}}]]'''
|
|-
| colspan="2" style="{{roundytr|10px}} {{roundybottom|10px}} background:#{{kanto color light}};" |
{| align="center" width="100%" style="{{roundy|10px}} background: #FFFFFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color light}};"
|-
! width="70px" style="{{roundyleft|16px}} background:#{{#switch: {{{gen1ex|}}}|none|blue=FFFFFF|{{red color}}}}; border: 2px solid #{{red color}}; line-height:12pt;" | [[Pokémon Red and Blue Versions|{{color|{{#switch: {{{gen1ex|}}}|none|blue={{red color dark}}|000}}|Red}}]]
! width="70px" style="{{roundyright|16px}} background:#{{#switch: {{{gen1ex|}}}|none|red=FFFFFF|{{blue color}}}}; border: 2px solid #{{blue color}}; line-height:12pt;" | [[Pokémon Red and Blue Versions|{{color|{{#switch: {{{gen1ex|}}}|none|red={{blue color dark}}|000}}|Blue}}]]
|
{| align="center" width="100%" style="{{roundy|12px}} background: #{{{{{type|unknown}}} color light}};"
| align="center" width="70px" | '''{{{rbrarity|None}}}'''
| style="{{roundyright|10px}} background:#FFFFFF;" | {{{rbarea|[[Trade]]}}}{{#switch: {{{gen1ex|}}}|red= [[Version-exclusive Pokémon|{{color|{{red color dark}}|(Red only)}}]]|blue= [[Version-exclusive Pokémon|{{color|{{blue color dark}}|(Blue only)}}]]}}
|}
|-
! colspan="2" width="140px" style="{{roundy|16px}} background:#{{#ifeq: {{{jbarea|[[Trade]]}}}|[[Trade]]|FFFFFF|{{blue color}}}}; border: 2px solid #{{blue color}}; line-height:12pt;" | [[Pokémon Blue Version (Japanese)|{{color|{{#ifeq: {{{jbarea|[[Trade]]}}}|[[Trade]]|{{blue color dark}}|000}}|Blue (Japan)}}]]
|
{| align="center" width="100%" style="{{roundy|12px}} background: #{{{{{type|unknown}}} color light}};"
| align="center" width="70px" | '''{{{jbrarity|None}}}'''
| style="{{roundyright|10px}} background:#FFFFFF;" | {{{jbarea|[[Trade]]}}}
|}
|-
! colspan="2" width="140px" style="{{roundy|16px}} background:#{{#ifeq: {{{yarea|[[Trade]]}}}|[[Trade]]|FFFFFF|{{yellow color}}}}; border: 2px solid #{{yellow color}}; line-height:12pt;" | [[Pokémon Yellow Version|{{color|{{#ifeq: {{{yarea|[[Trade]]}}}|[[Trade]]|{{yellow color dark}}|000}}|Yellow}}]]
|
{| align="center" width="100%" style="{{roundy|12px}} background: #{{{{{type|unknown}}} color light}};"
| align="center" width="70px" | '''{{{yrarity|None}}}'''
| style="{{roundyright|10px}} background:#FFFFFF;" | {{{yarea|[[Trade]]}}}
|}
|}
|}
The color can be worked on later, it isn't a huge issue. It would use the arguements "jbarea" and "jbrarity". Is this too ambitious? What do you guys think? - [[User:DanPMK|MK]] ([[User Talk:DanPMK|t]]/[[Special:contributions/DanPMK|c]]) 06:36, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
:I think this is very important to fix. Right now this template is inconsistent with such pages as [[Version-exclusive Pokémon]], leading to inconsistent data for e.g. Magmar (where the data for Blue and for Green differ). The biggest design challenge, I think, is keeping the template clear to folks who want to know about the US blue version -- your method seems to handle this smoothly. --[[User:Eskay|Eskay]] 19:54, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
::I'll put it on this template, as long as you go and fix all 151 pages which will say that it is unavailable in Blue (Japanese) as soon as possible. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 03:16, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
:::I can make the 139 edits, but I don't have a source for the actual location details for Blue where they differ from Green, such as in the matter of Scyther/Pinsir/Electabuzz/Magmar. --[[User:Eskay|Eskay]] 05:38, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
::::[[Version-exclusive Pokémon#Generation I]] should have all the correct information. --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 05:43, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::Don't forget about this guys! - [[User:DanPMK|MK]] ([[User Talk:DanPMK|t]]/[[Special:contributions/DanPMK|c]]) 16:22, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

== Black & White : Dream World ==

Maybe we should add informations about Black & White's Dream World, like this :

{| align="center" style="{{roundy|10px}} border: 3px solid #{{ {{#if: {{{type2|}}}|{{{type2|unknown}}} color|{{{type|unknown}}} color dark}} }}; background: #{{{{{type|unknown}}} color}};"
|-
| style="{{roundy|10px}} background: #{{{{{type|unknown}}} color}}" | 
{| align="center" width="100%" style="{{#ifexpr: {{{gen|2}}} > 1||display:none;}} {{roundy|10px}} background: #{{{{{type|unknown}}} color}}; border-collapse: collapse;"
|-
| colspan="2" style="{{roundy|10px}} background:#{{{{#switch: {{{gen|1}}}|2=kanto|3=johto|4=hoenn|5=sinnoh|6=isshu|orre}} color light}};" |
{| align="center" width="100%" style="{{roundy|10px}} background: #FFFFFF; border: 2px solid #{{{{#switch: {{{gen|1}}}|2=kanto|3=johto|4=hoenn|5=sinnoh|6=isshu|orre}} color light}};"
|-
! {{MS|???}} <big> This Pokémon was unavailable prior to Generation {{#switch: {{{gen|1}}}|2=II|3=III|4=IV|5=V|6=VI|I}}.</big> {{MS|{{#switch: {{{gen|1}}}|2={{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 4}}|1=145|0=144|2=146|3=150|4=151}}|3={{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 5}}|1=244|0=243|2=245|3=249|4=250|5=251}}|4={{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 12}}|1=378|0=377|2=379|3=380|4=381|5=382|6=383|7=384|8=385|9=386|10=386A|11=386D|12=386S}}|5={{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 15}}|1=481|0=480|2=482|3=483|4=484|5=485|6=486|7=487|8=487O|9=488|10=489|11=490|12=491|13=492|14=492S|15=493}}|6={{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 13}}|1=638|0=494|2=639|3=640|4=641|5=642|6=643|7=644|8=645|9=646|10=647|11=648|12=648S|13=649}}|{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 2}}|1=571|0=570}}}}}}
|}
|-
| colspan="2" |
|-
| colspan="2" |
|}
{| align="center" width="100%" style="{{#ifexpr: {{{gen|1}}} > 1|display:none;}} {{roundy|10px}} background: #{{{{{type|unknown}}} color}}; border-collapse: collapse;"
|-
| width="80px" align="center" style="{{roundytop|5px}} line-height:8pt; background:#{{kanto color light}};" | '''[[Generation I|{{color|000|Generation I}}]]'''
|
|-
| colspan="2" style="{{roundytr|10px}} {{roundybottom|10px}} background:#{{kanto color light}};" |
{| align="center" width="100%" style="{{roundy|10px}} background: #FFFFFF; border: 2px solid #{{kanto color light}};"
|-
! width="70px" style="{{roundyleft|16px}} background:#{{#switch: {{{gen1ex|}}}|none|blue=FFFFFF|{{red color}}}}; border: 2px solid #{{red color}}; line-height:12pt;" | [[Pokémon Red and Blue Versions|{{color|{{#switch: {{{gen1ex|}}}|none|blue={{red color dark}}|000}}|Red}}]]
! width="70px" style="{{roundyright|16px}} background:#{{#switch: {{{gen1ex|}}}|none|red=FFFFFF|{{blue color}}}}; border: 2px solid #{{blue color}}; line-height:12pt;" | [[Pokémon Red and Blue Versions|{{color|{{#switch: {{{gen1ex|}}}|none|red={{blue color dark}}|000}}|Blue}}]]
|
{| align="center" width="100%" style="{{roundy|12px}} background: #{{{{{type|unknown}}} color light}};"
| align="center" width="70px" | '''{{{rbrarity|None}}}'''
| style="{{roundyright|10px}} background:#FFFFFF;" | {{{rbarea|[[Trade]]}}}{{#switch: {{{gen1ex|}}}|red= [[Version-exclusive Pokémon|{{color|{{red color dark}}|(Red only)}}]]|blue= [[Version-exclusive Pokémon|{{color|{{blue color dark}}|(Blue only)}}]]}}
|}
|-
! colspan="2" width="140px" style="{{roundy|16px}} background:#{{#ifeq: {{{yarea|[[Trade]]}}}|[[Trade]]|FFFFFF|{{yellow color}}}}; border: 2px solid #{{yellow color}}; line-height:12pt;" | [[Pokémon Yellow Version|{{color|{{#ifeq: {{{yarea|[[Trade]]}}}|[[Trade]]|{{yellow color dark}}|000}}|Yellow}}]]
|
{| align="center" width="100%" style="{{roundy|12px}} background: #{{{{{type|unknown}}} color light}};"
| align="center" width="70px" | '''{{{yrarity|None}}}'''
| style="{{roundyright|10px}} background:#FFFFFF;" | {{{yarea|[[Trade]]}}}
|}
|}
|-
| colspan="2" |
|-
| colspan="2" |
|}
{| align="center" width="100%" style="{{#ifexpr: {{{gen|1}}} > 2|display:none;}} {{roundy|10px}} background: #{{{{{type|unknown}}} color}}; border-collapse: collapse;"
|-
| width="80px" align="center" style="{{roundytop|5px}} line-height:8pt; background:#{{johto color light}};" | '''[[Generation II|{{color|000|Generation II}}]]'''
|
|-
| colspan="2" style="{{roundytr|10px}} {{roundybottom|10px}} background:#{{johto color light}};" |
{| align="center" width="100%" style="{{roundy|10px}} background: #FFFFFF; border: 2px solid #{{johto color light}};"
|-
! width="70px" style="{{roundyleft|16px}} background:#{{#switch: {{{gen2ex|}}}|none|rby|silver=FFFFFF|{{gold color}}}}; border: 2px solid #{{gold color}}; line-height:12pt;" | [[Pokémon Gold and Silver Versions|{{color|{{#switch: {{{gen2ex|}}}|none|rby|silver={{gold color dark}}|000}}|Gold}}]]
! width="70px" style="{{roundyright|16px}} background:#{{#switch: {{{gen2ex|}}}|none|rby|gold=FFFFFF|{{silver color}}}}; border: 2px solid #{{silver color}}; line-height:12pt;" | [[Pokémon Gold and Silver Versions|{{color|{{#switch: {{{gen2ex|}}}|none|rby|gold={{silver color dark}}|000}}|Silver}}]]
|
{| align="center" width="100%" style="{{roundy|12px}} background: #{{{{{type|unknown}}} color light}};"
| align="center" width="70px" | '''{{{gsrarity|None}}}'''
| style="{{roundyright|10px}} background:#FFFFFF;" | {{{gsarea|[[Trade]]}}}{{#switch: {{{gen2ex|}}}|gold= [[Version-exclusive Pokémon|{{color|{{gold color dark}}|(Gold only)}}]]|silver= [[Version-exclusive Pokémon|{{color|{{silver color dark}}|(Silver only)}}]]}}
|}
|-
! colspan="2" width="140px" style="{{roundy|16px}} background:#{{#switch: {{{carea|[[Trade]]}}}|[[Trade]]|[[Time Capsule]]=FFFFFF|{{crystal color}}}}; border: 2px solid #{{crystal color}}; line-height:12pt;" | [[Pokémon Crystal Version|{{color|{{#switch: {{{carea|[[Trade]]}}}|[[Trade]]|[[Time Capsule]]={{crystal color dark}}|000}}|Crystal}}]]
|
{| align="center" width="100%" style="{{roundy|12px}} background: #{{{{{type|unknown}}} color light}};"
| align="center" width="70px" | '''{{{crarity|None}}}'''
| style="{{roundyright|10px}} background:#FFFFFF;" | {{{carea|[[Trade]]}}}
|}
|}
|-
| colspan="2" |
|-
| colspan="2" |
|}
{| align="center" width="100%" style="{{#ifexpr: {{{gen|1}}} > 3|display:none;}} {{roundy|10px}} background: #{{{{{type|unknown}}} color}}; border-collapse: collapse;"
|-
| width="80px" align="center" style="{{roundytop|5px}} line-height:8pt; background:#{{hoenn color light}};" | '''[[Generation III|{{color|000|Generation III}}]]'''
|
|-
| colspan="2" style="{{roundytr|10px}} {{roundybottom|10px}} background:#{{hoenn color light}};" |
{| align="center" width="100%" style="{{roundy|10px}} background: #FFFFFF; border: 2px solid #{{hoenn color light}};"
|-
! width="70px" style="{{roundyleft|16px}} background:#{{#switch: {{{gen3ex|}}}|none|frlg|sapphire=FFFFFF|{{ruby color}}}}; border: 2px solid #{{ruby color}}; line-height:12pt;" | [[Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire Versions|{{color|{{#switch: {{{gen3ex|}}}|none|frlg|sapphire={{ruby color dark}}|000}}|Ruby}}]]
! width="70px" style="{{roundyright|16px}} background:#{{#switch: {{{gen3ex|}}}|none|frlg|ruby=FFFFFF|{{sapphire color}}}}; border: 2px solid #{{sapphire color}}; line-height:12pt;" | [[Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire Versions|{{color|{{#switch: {{{gen3ex|}}}|none|frlg|ruby={{sapphire color dark}}|000}}|Sapphire}}]]
|
{| align="center" width="100%" style="{{roundy|12px}} background: #{{{{{type|unknown}}} color light}};"
| align="center" width="70px" | '''{{{rsrarity|None}}}'''
| style="{{roundyright|10px}} background:#FFFFFF;" | {{{rsarea|[[Trade]]}}}{{#switch: {{{gen3ex|}}}|ruby= [[Version-exclusive Pokémon|{{color|{{ruby color dark}}|(Ruby only)}}]]|sapphire= [[Version-exclusive Pokémon|{{color|{{sapphire color dark}}|(Sapphire only)}}]]}}
|}
|-
! colspan="2" width="140px" style="{{roundy|16px}} background:#{{#ifeq: {{{earea|[[Trade]]}}}|[[Trade]]|FFFFFF|{{emerald color}}}}; border: 2px solid #{{emerald color}}; line-height:12pt;" | [[Pokémon Emerald Version|{{color|{{#switch: {{{earea|[[Trade]]}}}|[[Trade]]={{emerald color dark}}|000}}|Emerald}}]]
|
{| align="center" width="100%" style="{{roundy|12px}} background: #{{{{{type|unknown}}} color light}};"
| align="center" width="70px" | '''{{{erarity|None}}}'''
| style="{{roundyright|10px}} background:#FFFFFF;" | {{{earea|[[Trade]]}}}
|}
|-
! width="70px" style="{{roundyleft|16px}} background:#{{#switch: {{{frlgex|}}}|none|rse|leafgreen=FFFFFF|{{firered color}}}}; border: 2px solid #{{firered color}}; line-height:12pt;" | [[Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen Versions|{{color|{{#switch: {{{frlgex|}}}|none|rse|leafgreen={{firered color dark}}|000}}|FireRed}}]]
! width="70px" style="{{roundyright|16px}} background:#{{#switch: {{{frlgex|}}}|none|rse|firered=FFFFFF|{{leafgreen color}}}}; border: 2px solid #{{leafgreen color}}; line-height:12pt;" | [[Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen Versions|{{color|{{#switch: {{{frlgex|}}}|none|rse|firered={{leafgreen color dark}}|000}}|LeafGreen}}]]
|
{| align="center" width="100%" style="{{roundy|12px}} background: #{{{{{type|unknown}}} color light}};"
| align="center" width="70px" | '''{{{frlgrarity|None}}}'''
| style="{{roundyright|10px}} background:#FFFFFF;" | {{{frlgarea|[[Trade]]}}}{{#switch: {{{frlgex|}}}|firered= [[Version-exclusive Pokémon|{{color|{{firered color dark}}|(FireRed only)}}]]|leafgreen= [[Version-exclusive Pokémon|{{color|{{leafgreen color dark}}|(LeafGreen only)}}]]}}
|}
|-
! colspan="2" width="140px" style="{{roundy|16px}} background:#{{#ifeq: {{{coloarea|[[Trade]]}}}|[[Trade]]|FFFFFF|{{colo color}}}}; border: 2px solid #{{colo color}}; line-height:12pt;" | [[Pokémon Colosseum|{{color|{{#switch: {{{coloarea|[[Trade]]}}}|[[Trade]]={{colo color dark}}|000}}|Colosseum}}]]
|
{| align="center" width="100%" style="{{roundy|12px}} background: #{{#ifeq: {{{coloshadow|no}}}|yes|{{shadow color light}}|{{{{{type|unknown}}} color light}}}};"
| align="center" width="70px" style="{{roundyleft|10px}} background:#{{#ifeq: {{{coloshadow|no}}}|yes|{{shadow color light}}|{{{{{type|unknown}}} color light}}}};" | '''{{{colorarity|None}}}'''
| style="{{roundyright|10px}} background:#FFFFFF;" | {{{coloarea|[[Trade]]}}}{{#ifeq: {{{coloshadow|no}}}|yes| [[Shadow Pokémon|{{color|{{shadow color}}|(Shadow)}}]]}}
|}
|-
! colspan="2" width="140px" style="{{roundy|16px}} background:#{{#ifeq: {{{xdarea|[[Trade]]}}}|[[Trade]]|FFFFFF|{{xd color}}}}; border: 2px solid #{{xd color}}; line-height:12pt;" | [[Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness|{{color|{{#switch: {{{xdarea|[[Trade]]}}}|[[Trade]]={{xd color dark}}|000}}|XD}}]]
|
{| align="center" width="100%" style="{{roundy|12px}} background: #{{#ifeq: {{{xdshadow|no}}}|yes|{{shadow color light}}|{{{{{type|unknown}}} color light}}}};"
| align="center" width="70px" style="{{roundyleft|10px}} background:#{{#ifeq: {{{xdshadow|no}}}|yes|{{shadow color light}}|{{{{{type|unknown}}} color light}}}};" | '''{{{xdrarity|None}}}'''
| style="{{roundyright|10px}} background:#FFFFFF;" | {{{xdarea|[[Trade]]}}}{{#ifeq: {{{xdshadow|no}}}|yes| [[Shadow Pokémon|{{color|{{shadow color dark}}|(Shadow)}}]]}}
|}
|}
|-
| colspan="2" |
|-
| colspan="2" |
|}
{| align="center" width="100%" style="{{#ifexpr: {{{gen|1}}} > 4|display:none;}} {{roundy|10px}} background: #{{{{{type|unknown}}} color}}; border-collapse: collapse;"
|-
| width="80px" align="center" style="{{roundytop|5px}} line-height:8pt; background:#{{sinnoh color light}};" | '''[[Generation IV|{{color|000|Generation IV}}]]'''
|
|-
| colspan="2" style="{{roundytr|10px}} {{roundybottom|10px}} background:#{{sinnoh color light}};" |
{| align="center" width="100%" style="{{roundy|10px}} background: #FFFFFF; border: 2px solid #{{sinnoh color light}};"
|-
! width="70px" style="{{roundyleft|16px}} background:#{{#switch: {{{gen4ex|}}}|none|pal|hgss|pearl=FFFFFF|{{diamond color}}}}; border: 2px solid #{{diamond color}}; line-height:12pt;" | [[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Versions|{{color|{{#switch: {{{gen4ex|}}}|none|pal|hgss|pearl={{diamond color dark}}|000}}|Diamond}}]]
! width="70px" style="{{roundyright|16px}} background:#{{#switch: {{{gen4ex|}}}|none|pal|hgss|diamond=FFFFFF|{{pearl color}}}}; border: 2px solid #{{pearl color}}; line-height:12pt;" | [[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Versions|{{color|{{#switch: {{{gen4ex|}}}|none|pal|hgss|diamond={{pearl color dark}}|000}}|Pearl}}]]
|
{| align="center" width="100%" style="{{roundy|12px}} background: #{{#switch: {{lc:{{{dongledp|}}}}}|any={{colo color light}}|ruby={{ruby color light}}|sapphire={{sapphire color light}}|emerald={{emerald color light}}|firered={{firered color light}}|leafgreen={{leafgreen color light}}|{{{{{type|unknown}}} color light}}}};"
| align="center" width="70px" style="{{roundyleft|10px}} background:#{{#switch: {{lc:{{{dongledp|}}}}}|any={{colo color light}}|ruby={{ruby color light}}|sapphire={{sapphire color light}}|emerald={{emerald color light}}|firered={{firered color light}}|leafgreen={{leafgreen color light}}|{{{{{type|unknown}}} color light}}}};" | '''{{#if: {{{dongledp|}}}|Dongle|{{{dprarity|None}}}}}'''
| style="{{roundyright|10px}} background:#FFFFFF;" | {{{dparea|[[Trade]]}}}{{#switch: {{{gen4ex|}}}|diamond= [[Version-exclusive Pokémon|{{color|{{diamond color dark}}|(Diamond only)}}]]|pearl= [[Version-exclusive Pokémon|{{color|{{pearl color dark}}|(Pearl only)}}]]}}{{#switch: {{lc:{{{dongledp|}}}}}|any= [[Dual-slot mode|{{color|{{colo color dark}}|(Any Gen III game)}}]]|ruby= [[Dual-slot mode|{{color|{{ruby color dark}}|(Ruby)}}]]|sapphire= [[Dual-slot mode|{{color|{{sapphire color dark}}|(Sapphire)}}]]|emerald= [[Dual-slot mode|{{color|{{emerald color dark}}|(Emerald)}}]]|firered= [[Dual-slot mode|{{color|{{firered color dark}}|(FireRed)}}]]|leafgreen= [[Dual-slot mode|{{color|{{leafgreen color dark}}|(LeafGreen)}}]]}}
|}
|-
! colspan="2" width="140px" style="{{roundy|16px}} background:#{{#switch: {{{ptarea|[[Trade]]}}}|[[Trade]]|[[Pal Park]]|[[Pal Park]], [[Trade]]|[[Trade]], [[Pal Park]]=FFFFFF|{{platinum color}}}}; border: 2px solid #{{platinum color}}; line-height:12pt;" | [[Pokémon Platinum Version|{{color|{{#switch: {{{ptarea|[[Trade]]}}}|[[Trade]]|[[Pal Park]]|[[Pal Park]], [[Trade]]|[[Trade]], [[Pal Park]]={{platinum color dark}}|000}}|Platinum}}]]
|
{| align="center" width="100%" style="{{roundy|12px}} background: #{{#switch: {{lc:{{{donglept|}}}}}|any={{colo color light}}|ruby={{ruby color light}}|sapphire={{sapphire color light}}|emerald={{emerald color light}}|firered={{firered color light}}|leafgreen={{leafgreen color light}}|{{{{{type|unknown}}} color light}}}};"
| align="center" width="70px" style="{{roundyleft|10px}} background:#{{#switch: {{lc:{{{donglept|}}}}}|any={{colo color light}}|ruby={{ruby color light}}|sapphire={{sapphire color light}}|emerald={{emerald color light}}|firered={{firered color light}}|leafgreen={{leafgreen color light}}|{{{{{type|unknown}}} color light}}}};" | '''{{#if: {{{donglept|}}}|Dongle|{{{ptrarity|None}}}}}'''
| style="{{roundyright|10px}} background:#FFFFFF;" | {{{ptarea|[[Trade]]}}}{{#switch: {{lc:{{{donglept|}}}}}|any= [[Dual-slot mode|{{color|{{colo color dark}}|(Any Gen III game)}}]]|ruby= [[Dual-slot mode|{{color|{{ruby color dark}}|(Ruby)}}]]|sapphire= [[Dual-slot mode|{{color|{{sapphire color dark}}|(Sapphire)}}]]|emerald= [[Dual-slot mode|{{color|{{emerald color dark}}|(Emerald)}}]]|firered= [[Dual-slot mode|{{color|{{firered color dark}}|(FireRed)}}]]|leafgreen= [[Dual-slot mode|{{color|{{leafgreen color dark}}|(LeafGreen)}}]]}}
|}
|-
! width="70px" style="{{roundyleft|16px}} background:#{{#switch: {{{hgssex|}}}|none|pal|dppt|soulsilver=FFFFFF|{{heartgold color}}}}; border: 2px solid #{{heartgold color}}; line-height:12pt;" | [[Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver Versions|{{color|{{#switch: {{{hgssex|}}}|none|pal|dppt|soulsilver={{heartgold color dark}}|000}}|HeartGold}}]]
! width="70px" style="{{roundyright|16px}} background:#{{#switch: {{{hgssex|}}}|none|pal|dppt|heartgold=FFFFFF|{{soulsilver color}}}}; border: 2px solid #{{soulsilver color}}; line-height:12pt;" | [[Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver Versions|{{color|{{#switch: {{{hgssex|}}}|none|pal|dppt|heartgold={{soulsilver color dark}}|000}}|SoulSilver}}]]
|
{| align="center" width="100%" style="{{roundy|12px}} background: #{{{{{type|unknown}}} color light}};"
| align="center" width="70px" | '''{{{hgssrarity|None}}}'''
| style="{{roundyright|10px}} background:#FFFFFF;" | {{{hgssarea|[[Trade]]}}} {{#switch: {{{hgssex|}}}|heartgold= [[Version-exclusive Pokémon|{{color|{{heartgold color dark}}|(HeartGold only)}}]]|soulsilver= [[Version-exclusive Pokémon|{{color|{{soulsilver color dark}}|(SoulSilver only)}}]]}} {{#switch: {{{hgsssound|None}}}|Hoenn=[[Hoenn Sound|{{color|{{hoenn color}}|(Hoenn Sound)}}]]|Sinnoh=[[Sinnoh Sound|{{color|{{sinnoh color}}|(Sinnoh Sound)}}]]}}
|}
|-
{{#ifexpr: {{{gen|1}}} > 3||
{{!}}-
! colspan="2" width="140px" style="{{roundy|16px}} background:#{{locationcolor/med|land}}; border: 2px solid #{{locationcolor/med|land}}; line-height:12pt;" {{!}} [[Pal Park|{{color|000|Pal Park}}]]
{{!}}
{{{!}} align="center" width="100%" style="{{roundy|12px}} background: #{{#switch: {{{palarea|None}}}|Field={{locationcolor/light|land}}|Forest={{locationcolor/light|forest}}|Pond={{locationcolor/light|water}}|Mountain={{locationcolor/light|mountain}}|Sea={{locationcolor/light|ocean}}|None={{{{{type|unknown}}} color light}}}};"
{{!}} align="center" width="70px" {{!}}
{{!}} style="{{roundyright|10px}} background:#FFFFFF;" {{!}} [[List of Pokémon by Pal Park location#{{{palarea|}}}|{{{palarea|None}}}]]
{{!}}}
{{!}}-
}}
{{#if: {{{walkarea|}}}|
{{!}}-
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{| align="center" width="100%" style="{{#ifexpr: {{{gen|1}}} > 5|display:none;}} {{roundy|10px}} background: #{{{{{type|unknown}}} color}}; border-collapse: collapse;"
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| width="80px" align="center" style="{{roundytop|5px}} line-height:8pt; background:#{{isshu color light}};" | '''[[Generation V|{{color|000|Generation V}}]]'''
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{| align="center" width="100%" style="{{roundy|10px}} background: #FFFFFF; border: 2px solid #{{isshu color light}};"
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! width="70px" style="{{roundyleft|16px}} background:#{{#switch: {{{gen5ex|}}}|none|dppthgss|rrss|white=FFFFFF|{{black color}}}}; border: 2px solid #{{black color}}; line-height:12pt;" | [[Pokémon Black and White Versions|{{color|{{#switch: {{{gen5ex|}}}|none|dppthgss|rrss|white={{black color dark}}|FFF}}|Black}}]]
! width="70px" style="{{roundyright|16px}} background:#{{#switch: {{{gen5ex|}}}|none|dppthgss|rrss|black=FFFFFF|{{white color}}}}; border: 2px solid #{{white color}}; line-height:12pt;" | [[Pokémon Black and White Versions|{{color|{{#switch: {{{gen5ex|}}}|none|dppthgss|rrss|black={{white color dark}}|000}}|White}}]]
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{| align="center" width="100%" style="{{roundy|12px}} background: #{{{{{type|unknown}}} color light}};"
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| style="{{roundyright|10px}} background:#FFFFFF;" | {{{bwarea|[[Trade]]}}}{{#switch: {{{gen5ex|}}}|black= [[Version-exclusive Pokémon|{{color|{{black color dark}}|(Black only)}}]]|white= [[Version-exclusive Pokémon|{{color|{{white color dark}}|(White only)}}]]}}
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{| align="center" width="100%" style="{{roundy|12px}} background: #{{{{{type|unknown}}} color light}};"
| align="center" width="70px" | '''{{{dwrarity|None}}}'''
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I used the "dw" prefix (ex:"dwarea", "dwrarity").
 
[[User:Wolfy Harfleur 76700|Wolfy Harfleur 76700]] 10:56, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
:But the Dream World has no defined wild Pokémon; Game Freak can add and remove Pokémon at their will. Unless there are designated areas like [[Pal Park]], I see no point in it. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 11:15, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

== Template isn't working for Pokemon from previous generations ==

When I attempt to add the BW availability to Pokémon from previous generations, it doesn't seem to work. Could someone fix this? - [[User:050294|050294]] 07:31, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
:Hi. Can you elaborate on what seems to be wrong? —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 07:41, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
::When I attempt to add the Black and White area availability, it just doesn't show up on Pokémon from previous generations. At all. Here's an example of it not working with {{p|Ninetales}}'s availability.

{{Availability|
type=fire |
gen=1 |
rbarea=[[Evolution|Evolve]] {{p|Vulpix}} |
gen1ex=blue|
yarea=[[Evolution|Evolve]] {{p|Vulpix}} |
gsarea=[[Evolution|Evolve]] {{p|Vulpix}} |
gen2ex=silver |
rsarea=[[Evolution|Evolve]] {{p|Vulpix}} |
earea=[[Evolution|Evolve]] {{p|Vulpix}} |
frlgarea=[[Evolution|Evolve]] {{p|Vulpix}} |
frlgex=leafgreen |
xdarea=[[Evolution|Evolve]] {{p|Vulpix}} |
dparea=[[Evolution|Evolve]] {{p|Vulpix}} |
ptarea=[[Evolution|Evolve]] {{p|Vulpix}} |
hgssarea=[[Evolution|Evolve]] {{p|Vulpix}} |
hgssex=soulsilver |
palarea=Field |
bwarea=Honor Shrine |
}}

See? It's not showing on the template. - [[User:050294|050294]] 08:44, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
:Fixed. It was set to only display for Gen V Pokémon. Probably a hangover from before the games were released to prevent people adding speculation. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 09:02, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
::Thank you! - [[User:050294|050294]] 09:19, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

== Default message for Black and White. ==

Since there are so many Pokémon missing from the main part of Black and White. I believe the default message for bwarea should be "[[PokéShifter]] or {{pkmn|Dream World}}" to cut down on the amount of pages needed to edit. - ''[[User:Chosen|Chosen]] of [[User talk:Chosen|Mana]]'' 15:11, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
:I agree, but only for Pokémon prior to Generation IV. For others (thus, version exclusives), it should be just "{{pkmn|Dream World}}". --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 13:39, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

== Black/White ==

Would it be possible for someone to edit the template so that the Black & White boxes appear empty if it would normaly default to trade? Like this;

{{Availability|
type=??? |
gen5ex=none|
}}
'''X'''[[User:Vuvuzela2010|'''Vuvuzela2010''']]'''X''' 22:41, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

== Saphire ==
How's about making the text for Saphire white rather then black on navy blue? It's hardly legible. [[User:Malake256|Malake256]] 18:43, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

Powerhouse Pokémon

2011-02-21T17:11:41Z

Malake256: roundying on all browsers

'''Pseudo-legendary''' is a fan term commonly used to refer to any Pokémon that has a three-stage [[evolution]] line, two [[Elemental type|type]]s, as well as a [[base stats|base stat total]] of 600. The term originates from the Greek prefix ''pseudo-'', which means "false". Pseudo-legendary Pokémon are often more powerful than other non-legendary Pokémon, possibly due to their high [[base stat]]s. All pseudo-legendary Pokémon have {{stat|Attack}} or {{stat|Special Attack}} as their highest stat.

==List of pseudo-legendary Pokémon==
There are six Pokémon considered to be pseudo-legendary. The following shows the pseudo-legendary Pokémon by the Generation of their introduction, as well as their types, and the Pokémon they evolve from.

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{| align="center" style="background: #{{kanto color dark}}; font-size:85%; {{roundy|10px}} border: 5px solid #{{kanto color}}"
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! style="width:80px; background:#{{kanto color light}}; {{roundytop|5px}}" colspan="2" | [[File:149.png]] '''{{pcolor|Dragonite|{{kanto color dark}}}}''' 
|- align="center"
| style="background:#{{dragon color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Dragon (type)|Dragon}}
| style="background:#{{flying color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Flying (type)|Flying}}
|- align="center" style="background: #{{kanto color light}}"
| {{MSP|148|Dragonair}}
| {{pcolor|Dragonair|{{kanto color dark}}}}
|- align="center" style="background: #{{kanto color light}}"
| colspan="2" style="background:#{{dragon color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Dragon (type)|Dragon}}
|- align="center" style="background: #{{kanto color light}}"
| {{MSP|147|Dratini}}
| {{pcolor|Dratini|{{kanto color dark}}}}
|- align="center"
| colspan="2" style="background:#{{dragon color}}; {{roundybottom|5px}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Dragon (type)|Dragon}}
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{| align="center" style="background: #{{johto color dark}}; font-size:85%; {{roundy|10px}} border: 5px solid #{{johto color}}"
|-
! style="width:80px; background:#{{johto color light}}; {{roundytop|5px}}" colspan="2" | [[File:248.png]] '''{{pcolor|Tyranitar|{{johto color dark}}}}''' 
|- align="center"
| style="background:#{{rock color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Rock (type)|Rock}}
| style="background:#{{dark color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Dark (type)|Dark}}
|- align="center" style="background: #{{johto color light}}"
| {{MSP|247|Pupitar}}
| {{pcolor|Pupitar|{{johto color dark}}}}
|- align="center" style="background: #{{johto color light}}"
| style="background:#{{rock color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Rock (type)|Rock}}
| style="background:#{{ground color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Ground (type)|Ground}}
|- align="center" style="background: #{{johto color light}}"
| {{MSP|246|Larvitar}}
| {{pcolor|Larvitar|{{johto color dark}}}}
|- align="center"
| style="background:#{{rock color}}; {{roundybl|5px}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Rock (type)|Rock}}
| style="background:#{{ground color}}; {{roundybr|5px}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Ground (type)|Ground}}
|}
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{| align="center" style="background: #{{hoenn color dark}}; text-align: center; font-size:85%; {{roundy|10px}}; border: 5px solid #{{hoenn color}}"
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! style="width:80px; background:#{{hoenn color light}}; {{roundytl|5px}}" colspan="2" | [[File:373.png]] '''{{pcolor|Salamence|{{hoenn color dark}}}}''' 
! style="width:80px; background:#{{hoenn color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" colspan="2" | [[File:376.png]] '''{{pcolor|Metagross|{{hoenn color dark}}}}'''
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| style="background:#{{dragon color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Dragon (type)|Dragon}}
| style="background:#{{flying color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Flying (type)|Flying}}
| style="background:#{{steel color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Steel (type)|Steel}}
| style="background:#{{psychic color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Psychic (type)|Psychic}}
|- style="background: #{{hoenn color light}}"
| {{MSP|372|Shelgon}}
| {{pcolor|Shelgon|{{hoenn color dark}}}}
| {{MSP|375|Metang}}
| {{pcolor|Metang|{{hoenn color dark}}}}
|-
| colspan="2" style="background:#{{dragon color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Dragon (type)|Dragon}}
| style="background:#{{steel color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Steel (type)|Steel}}
| style="background:#{{psychic color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Psychic (type)|Psychic}}
|- style="background: #{{hoenn color light}}"
| {{MSP|371|Bagon}}
| {{pcolor|Bagon|{{hoenn color dark}}}}
| {{MSP|374|Beldum}}
| {{pcolor|Beldum|{{hoenn color dark}}}}
|-
| colspan="2" style="background:#{{dragon color}}; {{roundybl|5px}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Dragon (type)|Dragon}}
| style="background:#{{steel color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Steel (type)|Steel}}
| style="background:#{{psychic color}}; {{roundybr|5px}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Psychic (type)|Psychic}}
|}
|
{| align="center" style="background: #{{sinnoh color dark}}; font-size:85%; {{roundy|10px}} border: 5px solid #{{sinnoh color}}"
|-
! style="width:80px; background:#{{sinnoh color light}}; {{roundytop|5px}}" colspan="2" | [[File:445.png]] '''{{pcolor|Garchomp|{{sinnoh color dark}}}}''' 
|- align="center"
| style="background:#{{dragon color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Dragon (type)|Dragon}}
| style="background:#{{ground color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Ground (type)|Ground}}
|- align="center" style="background: #{{sinnoh color light}}"
| {{MSP|444|Gabite}}
| {{pcolor|Gabite|{{sinnoh color dark}}}}
|- align="center" style="background: #{{sinnoh color light}}"
| style="background:#{{dragon color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Dragon (type)|Dragon}}
| style="background:#{{ground color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Ground (type)|Ground}}
|- align="center" style="background: #{{sinnoh color light}}"
| {{MSP|443|Gible}}
| {{pcolor|Gible|{{sinnoh color dark}}}}
|- align="center"
| style="background:#{{dragon color}}; {{roundybl|5px}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Dragon (type)|Dragon}}
| style="background:#{{ground color}}; {{roundybr|5px}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Ground (type)|Ground}}
|}
|
{| align="center" style="background: #{{unova color dark}}; font-size:85%; {{roundy|10px}} border: 5px solid #{{unova color}}"
|-
! style="width:80px; background:#{{unova color light}}; {{roundytop|5px}}" colspan="2" | [[File:635.png]] '''{{pcolor|Sazandora|{{unova color dark}}}}''' 
|- align="center"
| style="background:#{{dark color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Dark (type)|Dark}}
| style="background:#{{Dragon color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Dragon (type)|Dragon}}
|- align="center" style="background: #{{unova color light}}"
| {{MSP|634|Jiheddo}}
| {{pcolor|Jiheddo|{{unova color dark}}}}
|- align="center" style="background: #{{unova color light}}"
| style="background:#{{dark color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Dark (type)|Dark}}
| style="background:#{{Dragon color}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Dragon (type)|Dragon}}
|- align="center" style="background: #{{unova color light}}"
| {{MSP|633|Monozu}}
| {{pcolor|Monozu|{{unova color dark}}}}
|- align="center"
| style="background:#{{dark color}}; {{roundybl|5px}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Dark (type)|Dark}}
| style="background:#{{dragon color}}; {{roundybr|5px}}" | {{color2|FFFFFF|Dragon (type)|Dragon}}
|}
|}

==Characteristics==
With the exception of the {{p|Garchomp}} and {{p|Sazandora}} evolutionary lines, pseudo-legendary Pokémon are usually situated adjacent to the [[legendary trio]]s in the [[Pokédex]]es of their respective [[Generation]]s. In both the [[National Pokédex]] and [[List of Pokémon by Johto Pokédex number|Johto Pokédex]], the evolutionary lines of {{p|Dragonite}} and {{p|Tyranitar}} are located just after the [[legendary trio]] of their respective Generation (they are located next to each other in the Johto Pokédex). Similarly, the {{p|Salamence}} and {{p|Metagross}} lines are located next to each other right before the [[legendary golems]] in both the National Pokédex and [[List of Pokémon by Hoenn Pokédex number|Hoenn Pokédex]]. Oddly, this tradition was not upheld in [[Generation IV]], as the {{p|Garchomp}} [[evolution]] line is situated next to no notable Pokémon. In [[Generation V]], the {{p|Sazandora}} line is located next to the {{p|Volcarona}} line, who are adjacent to the legendary Pokémon.

===Individual Characteristics===
====Dragonite====
Aside from being the first, Dragonite has the highest Special Defense tied with Tyranitar.

====Tyranitar====
It is the only pseudo-legendary Pokémon that can neither fly nor levitate, as well as the slowest of the pseudo-legendary Pokémon. When a {{weather|sandstorm}} is raging, Tyranitar's {{stat|Special Defense}} becomes the highest of all pseudo-legendary Pokémon.

====Salamence====
It has the lowest defenses of all pseudo-legendary Pokémon. However, it has the highest Attack (tied with Metagross).

====Metagross====
Metagross shares a large number of different characteristics from the other pseudo-legendary Pokémon. This is likely due to how it is the only pseudo-legendary Pokémon that does not appear to be based on a reptile; rather, it is a robotic life form. This is likely why Metagross is the only pseudo-legendary Pokémon not to be used by [[Lance]] in any game (aside from Sazandora, as Lance has not yet appeared in a game since its introduction), as he prefers {{type2|Dragon}} and draconic Pokémon.

Metagross is the only genderless pseudo-legendary Pokémon, and the only pseudo-legendary Pokémon whose first stage of evolution, {{p|Beldum}}, cannot be caught in the wild in its debut generation (one is received from [[Steven Stone]] instead). Metagross and its pre-evolutions have a [[catch rate]] of 3 (all the other pseudo-legendary Pokémon families have a catch rate of 45), and it has the highest base Defense of all the pseudo-legendary Pokémon.

====Garchomp====
It is the only pseudo-legendary Pokémon to have [[List of Pokémon with gender differences|gender differences]], as well as having the fewest resistances. It is the fastest with a base {{stat|Speed}} stat of 102 and has the highest base {{stat|HP}}, with 108.

====Sazandora====
Due to being the only pseudo-legendary Pokémon to have a higher {{stat|Special Attack}} stat than {{stat|Attack}}, Sazandora's stats give it a number of unique characteristics from the other pseudo-legendary Pokémon. Consequently, it has the highest base Special Attack of all the pseudo-legendary Pokémon, and likewise, the lowest base Attack of all the pseudo-legendary Pokémon. Similarly, it is the only pseudo-legendary Pokémon that does not have a base stat over 125, but it is also the only pseudo-legendary Pokémon that does not have a base stat under 90. It is also the only pseudo-legendary Pokémon of the {{t|Dragon}} type for which Dragon is its secondary type rather than it's primary type.

Sazandora is the only pseudo-legendary Pokémon with multiple elemental immunities (however its immunity to {{t|Ground}} is due to its ability, {{a|Levitate}}). Of the {{type2|Dragon}} pseudo-legendary Pokémon, it is the only one not to have a 4× weaknesses to {{type2|Ice}} attacks and as of {{v2|Black and White|s}}, the only pseudo-legendary Pokémon to have never been used by a {{pkmn|Champion}}. However, it is used by [[Ghetsis]], the last trainer the player battles in the main storyline in [[Pokémon Black and White Versions|Pokémon Black and White]].

====Other====
* Tyranitar and Sazandora are the only pseudo-legendary Pokémon that have a [[List of Pokémon with unique type combinations|unique type combination]].
* {{p|Metagross}} and Sazandora are the only pseudo-legendary Pokémon that do not have any 4× weaknesses.
* Salamence and Metagross have the highest {{stat|Attack}} of all pseudo-legendary Pokémon with a base 135 stat.
* Tyranitar and Metagross are the only pseudo-legendary Pokémon that are not Dragon-type.

==In the games==
These Pokémon are used in-game often by the members of the [[Elite Four]] and {{pkmn|Champion}}s. {{p|Dragonite}} is used by [[Lance]], the final Elite Four member in [[Generation I]] and {{v2|FireRed and LeafGreen|s}}; it is used again by Lance as the Champion in [[Generation II]] and {{v2|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}}. In HeartGold and SoulSilver, Lance uses a {{p|Dragonite}}, but when he is battled again, he replaces two of his three Dragonite with the two other {{type2|Dragon}} pseudo-legendary Pokémon, {{p|Salamence}} and {{p|Garchomp}}. {{p|Tyranitar}} is also used by Lance in [[Pokémon Stadium 2]] (both Round 1 and 2), as well as by {{ga|Blue}}, the Champion, but only in the second round of the Elite Four in FireRed and LeafGreen. {{p|Salamence}} is used by {{EF|Drake}}, the final Elite Four member in {{3v2|Ruby|Sapphire|Emerald}}. {{p|Metagross}} is used by [[Steven Stone]], the Champion in Ruby and Sapphire, and ex-Champion in {{v2|Emerald}}. {{p|Garchomp}} is used by [[Cynthia]], the Champion in {{3v2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}}. {{p|Sazandora}} is the only pseudo-legendary Pokémon to have not been used by a {{pkmn|Champion}}; however, it is used by [[Ghetsis]], who serves as the final boss in the Unova games.

Although pseudo-legendary Pokémon are used almost exclusively by the final members of the [[Elite Four]] and {{pkmn|Champion}}s, there are three minor exceptions in {{3v|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}}: [[Ace Trainer]] Felix on {{rt|229|Sinnoh}} uses {{p|Salamence}}, and [[Ace Trainer]] Jamie on {{rt|224|Sinnoh}} has {{p|Metagross}}, serving as cameo appearances for the movie characters [[Butler]] and {{mov|Rebecca}}, who used these pseudo-legendary Pokémon in their respective {{pkmn|movie}}s. [[Dragon Tamer]] Darien, who is located outside of [[Stark Mountain]], uses a Dragonite, but is not related to any movies.

Pseudo-legendary Pokémon are obtainable in the wild strictly in their first form for the first two games of their Generation. However, {{p|Dragonair}} is obtainable in the wild in most games where {{p|Dratini}} is (all but {{3v2|Red|Green|Blue}}). Likewise, {{p|Pupitar}} is available in the wild in {{v2|Crystal}} and {{v2|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}}. {{p|Gabite}} is also found in {{si|Victory Road}} in {{v2|Platinum}}. {{p|Metang}} and {{p|Shelgon}} can also be found in the {{jo|Safari Zone}} in {{2v2|HeartGold|SoulSilver}}. In {{game|Black and White|s}}, {{p|Larvitar}}, {{p|Beldum}}, {{p|Shelgon}}, {{p|Salamence}}, the entire {{p|Garchomp}} line, {{p|Jiheddo}} and {{p|Sazandora}} are the only stages that cannot be caught in the wild. For the first time, final stages of pseudo-legendary Pokémon can be caught in the wild.

===[[Pokémon Colosseum]]===
In story mode, {{pkmn2|Shadow}} {{p|Metagross}} is used by [[Nascour]] and Shadow {{p|Tyranitar}} is used by [[Evice]]; it is notable that the two [[Cipher]] leaders have positions comparable to those of the final [[Elite Four]] member and {{pkmn|Champion}}, respectively. {{Pokémon XD}} complemented the list of pseudo-legendaries as of [[Generation III]] by featuring Shadow {{p|Salamence}} (used by [[Eldes]]) and Shadow {{p|Dragonite}} (used by [[Miror B.]]). Another commonality is that all four pseudo-legendary Pokémon have {{m|Shadow Rush}} as one of their Shadow moves.

==In the anime==
[[Image:Cynthia Garchomp.png|thumb|right|200px|[[Cynthia's Garchomp]] in the anime]]
All pseudo-legendary Pokémon except {{p|Sazandora}} have appeared in the anime.
* {{p|Dragonite}} debuted [[Giant Pokémon|as a silhouette]] in ''[[EP013|Mystery at the Lighthouse]]'', but appeared physically in ''[[M01|Mewtwo Strikes Back]]''.
** Dragonite has also appeared {{TP|Drake|belonging to Drake|Dragonite}} and {{TP|Lance|to Lance|Dragonite}}, who are both regional {{pkmn|Champion}}s.
** {{p|Dratini}} debuted in ''[[EP035|Legend of Dratini]]'', along with {{p|Dragonair}}.
* {{TP|Vicious|Tyranitar}} debuted in ''[[M04|Celebi: Voice of the Forest]]''.
* {{p|Salamence}} debuted in ''[[M06|Jirachi: Wish Maker]]''.
* {{p|Metagross}} debuted in ''[[M07|Destiny Deoxys]]''.
* {{TP|Cynthia|Garchomp}} debuted in ''[[DP040|Top-Down Training!]]'', belonging to [[Cynthia]].
** Cynthia's Garchomp also appeared in the opening of ''[[M12|Arceus and the Jewel of Life]]'', meaning that all pseudo-legendary Pokémon except Sazandora have also appeared in a movie.

==Trivia==
* [[Generation III]] is the only generation so far to have introduced more than one pseudo-legendary Pokémon.
* All pseudo-legendary Pokémon that existed at the time were available as [[Shadow Pokémon]] in either [[Pokémon Colosseum]] (Tyranitar and Metagross) or {{Pokémon XD}} (Dragonite and Salamence).
* Among Pokémon commonly mistaken for pseudo-legendaries are {{p|Slaking}}, {{p|Flygon}}, {{p|Aggron}}, {{p|Volcarona}}, and {{p|Haxorus}}. For one reason or another, these Pokémon do not fit the criteria of those above and so are not pseudo-legendaries.
** {{p|Slaking}}, though not a pseudo-legendary, has the highest base stats of all non-legendary Pokémon and one immunity, to the Ghost-type. However, it lacks some factors: a base-stat total of 600 and a secondary type. Slaking is also hindered by its ability, {{a|Truant}}, which is likely the reason for its high stats.
* Ash is the first main character in the anime to own [[Ash's Gible|a member]] of a pseudo-legendary family; however, it could be considered his second if {{AP|Larvitar}} is counted, but he only owned it temporarily.
* In Generation IV, the first stage of all pseudo-legendary Pokémon are available in the [[Johto Safari Zone]].
* {{p|Metagross}} is the only pseudo-legendary Pokémon that cannot learn any {{type|Dragon}} moves.
* All of the pseudo-legendary pokemon have been blue, or partly blue, in one or more of their forms.

==In other languages==
*'''German:''' ''Pseudo-Legendäre''
*'''Japanese:''' {{tt|擬似伝説|ぎじでんせつ}}

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[[ja:擬似伝説]]

Metroid Wiki

2011-02-12T17:46:45Z

Malake256:

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The '''Metroid Wiki''' is a wiki devoted to the {{met|Metroid (series)|Metroid series}} that has joined the [[Nintendo Independent Wiki Alliance]]. It was created on January 27, 2010 by Nathanial Rumphol-Janc, and since then has reached over 800 articles. It first started as an idea at the [http://forums.zeldainformer.com/ Zelda Informer forums] and has since evolved into a full-fledged project to accumulate as much knowledge related to the Metroid Series as possible.

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Template talk:Dynamic Punch

2011-01-11T01:00:44Z

Malake256: Created page with "Although Zap Cannon has a base power of 120, it still has a similar nature to these attacks. Isn't the point of these templates to display such similar attacks? Or is base power ..."

Although Zap Cannon has a base power of 120, it still has a similar nature to these attacks. Isn't the point of these templates to display such similar attacks? Or is base power a very specific criteria that must be met? [[User:Malake256|Malake256]] 01:00, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

Purrloin (Pokémon)

2010-12-18T21:56:34Z

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{{Unknown Pokémon}}
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{{PokémonInfobox|
jname=チョロネコ |
tmname=Choroneko |
size=140px|
art=BW |
ndex=509 |
udex=015 |
typen=1 |
type1=Dark|
type2= |
species=Ill-Natured |
height-ftin=1'04" |
height-m=0.4 |
weight-lbs=22.3 |
weight-kg=10.1 |
abilityn=2 |
ability1=Limber |
ability2=Unburden |
abilityd=Teasing Heart |
egggroupn=1 |
egggroup1=Ground|
egggroup2= |
eggcycles=20|
expyield=56 |
lv100exp=1,000,000|
gendercode=127|
color=Purple|
evsp=1|
catchrate=255|
body=Unknown |
pokefordex= |
generation=5 |
}}

([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese]]: '''チョロネコ''' ''Choroneko'') is a {{type2|Dark}} Pokémon introduced in [[Generation V]].

It evolves into {{p|Lepardas}} starting at level 20.

==Biology==
===Physiology===
Choroneko is a primarily purple-colored, feline Pokémon. Its head is large proportional to its body, and tufted at its ears and cheeks. Long, tapered violet markings above its green, feline eyes extend towards its ears. Tapered whitish markings above its eyes resemble eyebrows, and its muzzle, sporting a diminutive nose, is of similar coloration. Its neck, shoulders, back and hind paws are also whitish-colored. The lower portion of its forelimbs are purple, and the tip of its tail sports a curved, vaguely scythe-like extension.
====Gender differences====
None

====Special abilities====

===Behavior===
It likes to play with people's belongings and making off with them. In order to do so, it often puts up a cute act to put people's guard down before stealing their belongings. Even when caught red-handed, it usually gets off the hook due to its charming behavior. When angered, it fights back with its claws.

===Habitat===

===Diet===
{{main|Pokémon food}}

==In the anime==

===Major appearances===

===Minor appearances===

====Other====

==In the manga==

==In the TCG==
{{main|Choroneko (TCG)}}

==Game data==
===Pokédex entries===
{{Dex
|type=Dark
|gen=5
|blackdex={{tt|ひとの　ものを　あそびで　ぬすむ。ぬすまれた　ひとも　あいくるしい　しぐさに　つい　ゆるしてしまうのだ。|It plays with and steals people's belongings. Even the people it steals from unconsciously forgive it due to its charming behavior.}}
|whitedex={{tt|かわいらしい　しぐさで　ゆだんさせて　その　すきに　もちものを　うばう。おこると　ツメを　たてて　はんげき。|Its adorable behavior causes people to let down their guard, and it takes that opportunity to steal their belongings. If it gets mad it will fight back with its claws.}}
}}

===Game locations===
{{Availability|
type=Dark |
gen=5 |
bwarea=[[Route]]s {{rtn|2|Unova}} and {{rtn|3|Unova}}, [[Site of Dreams]]|
}}

====In side games====

===Stats===

====Base stats====
{{BaseStats|
type=Dark|
type2=Dark|
HP=41|
Attack=50|
Defense=37|
SpAtk=50|
SpDef=37|
Speed=66}}

===Type effectiveness===
{{Type effectiveness|
type1=Dark|
Normal= 100 |
Flying= 100 |
Fighting=200 |
Ground= 100 |
Rock= 100 |
Bug= 200 |
Poison= 100 |
Ghost= 50 |
Steel= 100 |

Fire= 100 |
Water= 100 |
Grass= 100 |
Electric=100 |
Psychic= 0 |
Ice= 100 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 50 |

notes=yes|
dark=yes|
newpsychic=1}}

===Learnset===
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====
{{learnlist/levelh|Choroneko|Dark|Dark|5|5}}
{{learnlist/level5|Start|Scratch|Normal|Physical|40|100|35}}
{{learnlist/level5|3|Growl|Normal|Status|—|100|40}}
{{learnlist/level5|6|Assist|Normal|Status|—|—|20}}
{{learnlist/level5|10|Sand-Attack|Ground|Status|—|100|15}}
{{learnlist/level5|12|Fury Swipes|Normal|Physical|18|80|15}}
{{learnlist/level5|15|Pursuit|Dark|Physical|40|100|20||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|19|Torment|Dark|Status|—|100|15}}
{{learnlist/level5|21|Fake Out|Normal|Physical|40|100|10}}
{{learnlist/level5|24|Hone Claws|Dark|Status|—|—|15}}
{{learnlist/level5|28|Assurance|Dark|Physical|50|100|10||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|30|Slash|Normal|Physical|70|100|20}}
{{learnlist/level5|33|Captivate|Normal|Status|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/level5|37|Night Slash|Dark|Physical|70|100|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|39|Snatch|Dark|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/level5|42|Nasty Plot|Dark|Status|—|—|20}}
{{learnlist/level5|46|Sucker Punch|Dark|Physical|80|100|5||'''}}
{{learnlist/levelf|Choroneko|Dark|Dark|5|5}}

====By [[TM]]/[[HM]]====
{{learnlist/tmh|Choroneko|Dark|Dark|5|5}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM01|Hone Claws|Dark|Status|—|—|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM06|Toxic|Poison|Status|—|90|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM10|Hidden Power|Normal|Special|—|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM11|Sunny Day|Fire|Status|—|—|5}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM12|Taunt|Dark|Status|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM17|Protect|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM18|Rain Dance|Water|Status|—|—|5}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM21|Frustration|Normal|Physical|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM27|Return|Normal|Physical|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM30|Shadow Ball|Ghost|Special|80|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM32|Double Team|Normal|Status|—|—|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM40|Aerial Ace|Flying|Physical|60|—|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM41|Torment|Dark|Status|—|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM42|Facade|Normal|Physical|70|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM44|Rest|Psychic|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM45|Attract|Normal|Status|—|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM46|Thief|Dark|Physical|40|100|10||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM48|Canon|Normal|Special|60|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM49|Echo Voice|Normal|Special|40|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM63|Embargo|Dark|Status|—|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM65|Shadow Claw|Ghost|Physical|70|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM66|Payback|Dark|Physical|50|100|10||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM73|Thunder Wave|Electric|Status|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM77|Psych Up|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM85|Dream Eater|Psychic|Special|100|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM86|Grass Knot|Grass|Special|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM87|Swagger|Normal|Status|—|90|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM90|Substitute|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM95|Bark Out|Dark|Special|55|95|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|HM01|Cut|Normal|Physical|50|95|30}}
{{learnlist/tmf|Choroneko|Dark|Dark|5|5}}

====By {{pkmn|breeding}}====
{{learnlist/breedh|Choroneko|Dark|Dark|5|5}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|209|Snubbull}}{{MSP|210|Granbull}}{{MSP|216|Teddiursa}}{{MSP|231|Phanpy}}{{MSP|300|Skitty}}{{MSP|417|Pachirisu}} {{MSP|427|Buneary}}{{MSP|428|Lopunny}}{{MSP|431|Glameow}}{{MSP|432|Purugly}}{{MSP|572|Chillarmy}}{{MSP|585|Shikijika}} {{MSP|586|Mebukijika}}{{MSP|613|Kumasyun}}|Charm|Normal|Status|—|100|20||}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|056|Mankey}}{{MSP|216|Teddiursa}}{{MSP|217|Ursaring}}{{MSP|263|Zigzagoon}}{{MSP|264|Linoone}}{{MSP|287|Slakoth}} {{MSP|289|Slaking}}{{MSP|300|Skitty}}|Covet|Normal|Physical|40|100|40||}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|086|Seel}}{{MSP|087|Dewgong}}{{MSP|287|Slakoth}}{{MSP|289|Slaking}}{{MSP|363|Spheal}}{{MSP|364|Sealeo}} {{MSP|365|Walrein}}{{MSP|501|Oshawott}}{{MSP|502|Futachimaru}}{{MSP|503|Daikenki}}{{MSP|572|Chillarmy}}{{MSP|587|Emonga}}|Encore|Normal|Status|—|—|5|||}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|052|Meowth}}{{MSP|053|Persian}}{{MSP|197|Umbreon}}{{MSP|215|Sneasel}}{{MSP|461|Weavile}}{{MSP|216|Teddiursa}} {{MSP|217|Ursaring}}{{MSP|228|Houndour}}{{MSP|229|Houndoom}}{{MSP|274|Nuzleaf}}{{MSP|275|Shiftry}}{{MSP|287|Slakoth}} {{MSP|288|Vigoroth}}{{MSP|289|Slaking}}{{MSP|300|Skitty}}{{MSP|301|Delcatty}}{{MSP|303|Mawile}}{{MSP|327|Spinda}} {{MSP|351|Kecleon}}{{MSP|431|Glameow}}{{MSP|432|Purugly}}{{MSP|559|Zuruggu}}{{MSP|560|Zuruzukin}}{{MSP|570|Zorua}} {{MSP|571|Zoroark}}{{MSP|585|Shikijika}}{{MSP|586|Mebukijika}}|Faint Attack|Dark|Physical|60|—|20||||'''}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|216|Teddiursa}}{{MSP|217|Ursaring}}{{MSP|303|Mawile}}{{MSP|570|Zorua}}|Fake Tears|Dark|Status||100|20||}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|228|Houndour}}{{MSP|229|Houndoom}}{{MSP|551|Meguroco}}{{MSP|552|Waruvile}}{{MSP|553|Waruvial}}{{MSP|570|Zorua}} {{MSP|571|Zoroark}}|Foul Play|Dark|Physical|95|100|15||||'''}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|052|Meowth}}|Pay Day|Normal|Physical|40|100|20||}}{{learnlist/breedf|Choroneko|Dark|Dark|5|5}}

====By [[Move tutor|tutoring]]====
{{learnlist/tutorh|Choroneko|Dark|Dark|5|5}}
{{learnlist/tutor5null}}
{{learnlist/tutorf|Choroneko|Dark|Dark|5|5}}

===Side game data===

===Evolution===
{{evobox
|family=Normal
|sprite1=509
|name1=Choroneko
|type1-1=Dark
|evotype1=Level
|level1=20
|sprite2=510
|name2=Lepardas
|type1-2=Dark}}

===Sprites===
{{Sprite |
type=dark |
gen=5 |
gender=none |
name=Choroneko |
ndex=509 |
}}

==Trivia==
* Choroneko was seen first in the [[Pokémon Sunday]] special episode preview in September 6. It was later removed from the same preview, much like the revelation of {{p|Zekrom}}'s secondary type earlier.
*Choroneko and {{p|Poochyena}} are the only Pokémon that can be found normally on the first accessible [[route]] of a main [[region]] that are not {{t|Normal}}, {{t|Flying}} or {{type2|Bug}} Pokémon.
**Coincidentally, they both are of pure {{t|Dark}} type and part of one evolutionary stage.

===Origin===
Choroneko is based on a {{wp|cat}} and possibly based on {{wp|black cat}}s.

====Name origin====
Choroneko's name comes from 猫 ''neko'', cat, and possibly ちょろまかす ''choromakasu'', to pilfer.


{{PokémonPrevNext | type=normal | prevnum=508 | nextnum=510 | prev=Murando | next=Lepardas | type=Dark }}

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[[fr:Choroneko]]
[[ja:チョロネコ]]

Talk:Chip Away (move)

2010-12-18T21:51:28Z

Malake256: Accuracy

== Accuracy ==

It's not affected by evasion, the article says, this and the fact that it says "100%" accuracy on the infobox leads me to believe that it is affected by accuracy. If so, I think it should be mentioned in the article. Though I'm not sure if it is or not. [[User:Malake256|Malake256]] 21:51, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Black out

2010-12-17T05:40:33Z

Malake256: /* A tied battle? */

Uh, yeah... this is about as notable as my left foot. --'''[[Special:Contributions/Alpha Totodile|α]][[User:Alpha Totodile|ワニ]][[User talk:Alpha Totodile|ノコ]]''' 19:45, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
:More or less, the article '''looks''' like your left foot.--'''[[User:Prmatt11|''Mew'']]* [[User talk:Prmatt11|a.k.a.]] [[Special:Contributions/Prmatt11|Prmatt11]]''' was here at 21:30, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

== In theory... ==

If a player were to say... not to heal beforehand at all, where would the player end up? For instance, if battling the rival in R/S/E w/o healing and your starter faints, where would you go? [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 05:44, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
:Home, I imagine. Mom does heal you like a PokéCenter does. [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * [[User talk:ArcToraphim|the Arc Toraph]] 05:54, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
::Or when the first level 2 Pidgey you find kills your Bulbasaur... yeah. You go home. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 05:24, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

== Formula for money lost in FR/LG ==

Depending on how many badges the player has earned, the formula is as follows:

<math>P = L * Base</math>

Where P is the money lost (dropped in panic or paid to the trainer), L is the level of the highest-level Pokémon on the team, and Base is the "base payout", which is determined based on how many badges the player has and who he is facing.

For example, when the player just starts out, Base is equal to {{pdollar}}8.

I'm currently playing through the game to see how it works, but right now, I have the following:

0 badges, anyone: {{pdollar}}8
 1 badge, anyone: {{pdollar}}16
 2 badges, anyone: {{pdollar}}24

Elite Four: {{pdollar}}100 (Not from my personal playing, however. I saw somebody else lose to them with a Level 68 Jolteon (or something like that, their highest level was 68) in the party and they lost {{pdollar}}6800.)

Useful at all? [[User:Ztobor|Ztobor]] 23:08, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
:Very. I wish we had mathtags that worked. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:23, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

I believe the same formula applies in Generation IV, but I have no proof of that. Can somebody verify it for me?
: For example, the GIF that we currently have on the page would have involved a Level 15 Pokémon while the trainer hadn't beaten Roark yet. [[User:Ztobor|Ztobor]] 16:51, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
:: Okay, I did some testing on Platinum. It seems to be the same. During the first battle, with a L5 Chimchar, I lost to the rival and lost {{pdollar}} 40. After defeating the Elite Four, the multiplier seems to be 120. (I lost {{pdollar}}3600 with a L30 Noctowl and {{pdollar}} 6360 with a L53 Infernape. The opponent doesn't seem to matter, as I lost 6360 when my Infernape lost to Aaron, the rival, Fantina at the Battleground, a Dragon Tamer, and a wild Wingull. Also, the Amulet Coin doesn't affect the dropped money. On another note, you still lose half your money in Emerald, even though it's based off of the FireRed/LeafGreen engine. [[User:MagicBarrier|MagicBarrier]] 21:19, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
::: Well, considering that Gym Leaders and Elite Four in the Gen.4 games have a base payout of {{pdollar}}120 as well, it's not terribly surprising. [[User:Ztobor|Ztobor]] 23:07, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

Okay, here's one: After the Cyrus battle, the base payout is {{pdollar}}100. I lost against Dialga ('cause I forgot to send out Palkia ''first'' - I'm a noob) and lost {{pdollar}}4700 because my Palkia was level 47. [[User:Ztobor|Ztobor]] 17:35, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

==Official Japanese Name==
The line used (at least in the Japanese generation 1 games) after saying that you ran out of usable POKeMON, is [without the Japanese quote marks] 『レッドはめのまえがまっくらになった！』. Can anybody tell me what this translates to, as it seems to be talking about "pitch-black", or something to that effect. [[User:Tharthan|Tharthan]] 20:14, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
: Well, basically it would mean "black out" as well. I believe the literal translation (based off my poor Japanese skills) is "Red's vision became pitch-black!"
:: Romanized, the sentence is "Reddo wa me no mae ga makkura ni natta!". "Reddo wa" means that the sentence has something to do with Red. "Me no mae" (目の前) means "in front of one's eyes", and "makkura" (真っ暗) means "really black" or "pitch-black", and finally "natta" (なった) is the past tense of "naru", which is "to become". [[User:Ztobor|Ztobor]] 02:32, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

== A tied battle? ==

If both the player and the other trainer run out of Pokémon at the same time, what happens? Does the trainer both white out and win the battle, or just one of the two? [[User:Ztobor|Ztobor]] 15:27, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
:I'm pretty sure you just lose. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 06:20, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
::I guess we'd better check that out, then. [[User:Ztobor|Ztobor]] 03:25, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
:::Seeing that it is impossible for two pokemon to be damages at the exact same time, whichever pokemon takes damage first will lose. For example, if you use an attack that hits with recoil to faint a trainer's last pokemon the recoil should not hit your pokemon because the attack fainted the last available opponent.[[User:FlickieStrife|FlickieStrife]] 12:38, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
Here's a senerio:What if you used explosion on them with a level 98 golem against your opponents level 24 pikachu(1 Pokemon each)? Then how would the situation work a technically both pokemon should faint right?--Dragrath1 05:36, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
:You lose though. If you fight against an in-game trainer and both Pokémon faint, you lose and you have to fight the trainer again. If you're in a trainer battle against your buddy, you tie if both Pokémon faint. And Battle Tower and others of the sorts, you lose. [[User:Malake256|Malake256]] 05:40, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

Cloning glitches

2010-11-18T04:12:13Z

Malake256: /* Corrupted save file */

'''Pokémon cloning''' is a [[glitch]] in the [[Pokémon games]] that enables a {{player}} to make an exact copy or "clone" of a [[Pokémon]]. While cloning has been present in at least one game of each [[generation]] so far, the methods to achieve it vary from game to game. Most of these methods involve exploiting the relatively long save times of the Pokémon games to interrupt the [[saving]] process when some data has been changed and some still hasn't. Like most glitches, there are negative side effects, such as the potential loss of the Pokémon to be cloned or even corruption of the saved data.

==Generations I and II==
There are two different methods for cloning Pokémon in the games from [[Generation I]] and {{Gen|II}}, one involving a Pokémon [[trade]] and the other the use of the {{Pkmn|storage system}}. Even though both are possible in all of the handheld games of these two generations, the trading method is mostly associated with Generation I, and the storage system method with Generation II.

===Trading method===
The cloning glitch most popular in [[Generation I]] involves the interruption of the trading process. As [[link cable]]s for the [[Game Boy]] are unable to send and receive data simultaneously, one game cartridge first sends its traded Pokémon's data while the other receives it, and then viceversa for the second traded Pokémon. Interrupting the trade after one Pokémon was sent and the other wasn't causes the first Pokémon to be present on both games and the second one not present on either, essentially making two of the same Pokémon while making the other disappear. The interruption can be either accidental - because of dirty connectors or damaged link cables - or on purpose - by disconnecting the link cable or turning the Game Boy off.

In the Generation I games, this glitch is potentially very hazardous to the save file, because in the period of time between sending and receiving a Pokémon (or viceversa) the game saves the player's party. If the glitch is performed wrong and the game has not finished saving, the saved data will be corrupted. In Generation II this process was changed, and thus this method is not hazardous for the save file.

===Storage system method===
Another cloning method present in the early Pokémon games involved the exploit of the [[Pokémon storage system]] and the fact that the game needed to save every time a box was changed. During the saving that takes place when switching the box, first the Pokémon data on all the PC boxes is saved, and then the Pokémon data on the player's [[party]]. If some Pokémon are deposited in the PC before switching the box, interrupting the saving process (turning the power off) at the right moment causes said Pokémon to be present both in the box and the player's party. This method, unlike the trade method, allows the player clone up to five Pokémon at the same time, as well as in Generation II, clone items by making the cloned Pokémon hold items before cloning it.

If the glitch is used with a game attached to Pokémon Stadium 2, there is a chance of getting strange glitch Pokémon. If the player withdraws a Pokémon and continues the cloning glitch, if the game is turned off at the right time, the cloned Pokémon will vanish and be replaced by a Pokémon with the same name, attack, and level as the Pokémon removed. Its sprite will be identical to the cloned Pokémon, but if sent into battle, it will appear as the withdrawn Pokémon. Its species name will be the same as the cloned Pokémon's and it will be able to learn all the TMs/HMs as the cloned Pokémon. However, it will evolve as the withdrawn Pokémon does.

[http://glitchcity.info/wiki/index.php/Get_All_Three_Starters This glitch] may be used at the beginning of a game to obtain all three [[starter Pokémon]].

==Generation III==
Due to improvements of the games and hardware such as the capability of the [[Game Boy Advance]] [[link cable]] to send and receive data at the same time, the auto-canceling of [[trade]]s if something goes wrong, the lack of need to [[saving|save]] while changing [[Pokémon storage system|PC boxes]] and new data corruption protection, both methods exploited in the first two generations to clone [[Pokémon]] were essentially removed for the [[Generation III|third]]. While Pokémon cloning was completely absent on most games of this generation, the glitch returned in a different form in {{game|Emerald}}, where the Link-Battle mode of the {{ho|Battle Tower}} saved only the [[party]] and bag of the {{player}}, even if he or she chooses "no" when the game asks to; this was due to the game's need to save a massive amount of data and check connections. Like in the methods from the previous generation, if the save is interrupted at the right moment, up to five Pokémon can be cloned at one time. It is also possible to clone numerous items at once.

Another glitch occurs when trading between any GBA game and Pokémon Colosseum and Pokémon XD that can be used to clone Pokémon. Unlike the handheld games of that generation, Colosseum and XD does not require the user to save the game after a trade is conducted. To enable the glitch, the player has to have Pokémon in the Game Boy game that he/she is willing to lose. After the trades have been completed, the GameCube will have to be shut down or reset without saving. The Pokémon traded to the Game Boy game will appear in the party of the GameCube game, while the same Pokémon will appear in the Game Boy party.

==Generation IV==
===GTS===
In [[Generation IV]], a cloning method reminiscent of the methods from the first two generations appeared, involving the use of the [[Global Terminal|GTS]]. If the Pokémon is deposited in the GTS and the connection is interrupted at the right time, the Pokémon in question would be in the player's [[party]] or [[Pokémon storage system|PC box]] and in the GTS, requiring the {{player}} only to withdraw the Pokémon from the GTS to obtain the clone. In [[Pokémon Platinum Version]], however, the glitch of cloning via GTS was removed; if it is attempted, the game simply reports a communication error and returns the player back to the main desk.

===Pokéwalker===
If the power is shut off on the DS after a Pokémon is transferred to the [[Pokéwalker]] before the game begins to save, the transfer is not recorded on the game and the Pokémon will still be in the [[Pokémon storage system|PC Box]] it was in prior to transfer. This glitch may also delete the Pokémon if it was being transferred from the Pokéwalker to the game. However, the game will automatically delete the clone if the player attempts to bring it back onto the game (even if the original Pokémon does not exist in the game any more, such as being traded).

===Corrupted save file===
Sometimes, when a game's save file gets corrupted, the Pokémon in that save file are kept. When this happens, the game can still be saved, but the save file will be unable to be loaded. With the assistance of another [[Nintendo DS]] and Generation IV game, the Pokémon can be traded from the corrupted game. After the trade is completed, if the game is reset, the Pokémon traded from the corrupted game will be in both games, but the other traded Pokémon will be lost.

{{Glitches}}

[[Category:Glitches]]

[[fr:Clonage de Pokémon et d'objets]]

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2010-10-23T02:51:06Z

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== Previous discussions ==

* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 1|Archive 1]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 2|Archive 2]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 3|Archive 3]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 4|Archive 4]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 5|Archive 5]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 6|Archive 6]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 7|Archive 7]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 8|Archive 8]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 9|Archive 9]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 10|Archive 10]]

== Pokémon cries? ==
Should we add Pokémon cries to the Pokémon articles?--[[User:Starman125|Starman125]] 20:18, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
:It's been tried before, but it caused too many problems. It would still probably cause too much problems now.--[[User:Pokelova|''Poké'']][[User talk:Pokelova|lova!]] 20:23, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
:::[[Talk:Main Page/Archive 10#Pokémon Cries|This has been discussed to death already.]] —♥ [[User:Jello|Jello]][[User Talk:Jello|talk]] 20:24, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
::::We're going to try to get them put in as soon as possible. They've been sitting in a directory on the server for... jeez, at least a year. Last time we tried to put them in, the server exploded. Archaic's been wary of doing it since then. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:35, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
:::::Just out of curiosity, what file format was used for the cries? That may have been the problem.--[[User:Starman125|Starman125]] 20:54, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
::::::Over at de:, we have mp3 with the following syntax: <nowiki>{{#mp3:http://www.greenchu.de/nakigoe/025.mp3}}</nowiki>. I cannot figure out where that parser functions comes from, though.--[[User:Afrael|Afrael]] [[User talk:Afrael|talk]] 00:59, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
:::::::I think having the files like [http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/#music Floatzel.net] have their music files could work well. We might even eventually be able to put route/town/cave music on the pages!--[[User:Pokelova|''Poké'']][[User talk:Pokelova|lova!]] 04:09, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

== Move Trivia ==

Should there be a trivia section for moves? For instance, only one Pokémon can learn [[Steel Wing]] by leveling up.--[[User:Chalkwriter|Chalkwriter]] 16:26, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
:There are for some moves, but not all of them have any notable trivia to add, so there is no sub heading. If you think of '''notable''' trivia, then add the sub-heading and put it in. Thanks, [[User:Samjohn95|Sam]][[User talk:Samjohn95|john]][[Special:contributions/Samjohn95|95]] 21:38, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

== Glitch Pokémon ==

Hi there. I remember when I was around nine, I used to play Pokémon Gold & Crystal, and I remember there was this cloning trick that could clone pokémon and the items that they held. Anyways, I began to notice if I did the right trick at a certain time, (or whatever it was, it has been a while) I managed to get a special type of Pokémon, the trainer. The trainer of course, had no moves and therefore could only struggle, but you could use TMs and everything. I remember having fun with that, but I can't find any info on this.- ''unsigned comment from {{u|Bublador}} ([[User talk:Bublador|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Bublador|contribs]]) ''

Try this page, all of the glitches are on [[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Glitches#All_Generations]] and please sign your comment when you use these talk pages. thank you --[[User:Daniel1993|Daniel1993]] 19:55, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

== Pronunciation ==

I'm just thinking if on every Pokémon's page that we have their Pronunciation somewhere? like this:

Say: Sin-da-qwil

What do you think?--[[User:lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 07:03, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:It's a good idea, but I believe we've had problems with adding pronunciations in the past because of people not agreeing on the "correct" pronunciation (also, sometimes there are conflicting pronunciations from different official sources) --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 07:06, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
::Oh oh then. I just though because some Pokémon I can't pronounce their names--[[User:lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 07:21, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:::If you have a look at the source of, say, Bulbasaur's page, you'll see this:
<pre>{{PokémonInfobox|
name=Bulbasaur |
pron=<sc>''bul''-buh-sore</sc> <ref>Barbo, Maria. ''The Official Pokémon Handbook''.
Scholastic Publishing, 1999. ISBN 0-439-10397-5</ref> |
jname=フシギダネ |
tmname=Fushigidane |
</pre>

the "pron=" parameter is not coded into the infobox, so it does appear. But it's there on every Pokemon's page. [[User:Takharii|'''たか''']][[User talk:Takharii|'''はり''']][[Special:Contributions/Takharii|'''い''']] 07:39, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
::::Yes, it's coded in but because of the disagreements on pronunciation and no clear official source for many of them, it was decided to hide them all. If Nintendo or anyone ever releases an official pronunciation guide then we'll be able to put them back up. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 07:43, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::Is whatever the pronunciation is in the English dub of the anime (and similarly the pronunciation in the Japanese dub for those not yet released over here) not enough to justify it? With the exception of the odd time where they've actually changed the pronunciation during it e.g. Regice... '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 13:46, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

== Artwork?! ==

I hate to be the silly one who starts the "What's going on?!!" discussion, but seriously, why have all the pictures of the Generation I Pokémon been changed to the old Red and Green artwork? Is it for an aniversary or something? [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 10:59, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:Yes. Anniversary of RB was yesterday, so Gen I Pokémon got Gen I art. But due to the server cache it took some a while to switch over, and I believe they should all be starting to switch back now, but again, that'll be whenever the server cache gets updated. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 11:24, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
::Actually, maybe it could be put on a switch, like with Gastrodon's forms, so it could switch between old and new artwork periodically. How's that sound? - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 13:49, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:::That's exactly what it did. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:34, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
::::Oh, so it's still in effect? As in, like, permanently? Because that was what I was suggesting. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 22:36, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::Yes, next year and on certain other days the site will have easter egg effects. Yaaaay for surprises. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:32, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
::::::I won't panic when the Gym Leader pictures are replaced by fan art then... [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 11:53, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

== just a though... ==

i realise this is probably in the wrong place, but, as unlocking the generation IV nationaldex and requesting a trade on the GTS require only seeing a particular species of pokémon, would it make sense to include a section explaining where to see them. (and i am aware that the GTS has only around a week left). I know that people (granted they are few) have had problems viewing unown and riolu in DP for example.--[[User:Mr-connor|Mr-connor]] 13:03, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

:There is a section explaining where to see, and catch, Pokémon. It's right below the Pokédex Entries section.--[[user:Mtn otter|Mtn otter]] I lie in wait...... 13:17, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

'''TYPHLOSION LV:50
KINDRA LV:50
ALAKAZAM LV:50
LUGIA LV:45
TYRANITAR LV:55
DRAGONITE LV:57'''

this is my current team for pokemon soulsilver...i think it has room for improvement.
[[User:The a-team|The a-team]] 21:14, 5 September 2010 (UTC)brandon strayhorn[[User:The a-team|The a-team]] 21:14, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
:This isn't the place to put this. Post it on the forums.--[[User:Cold|Cold]] ([[User talk:Cold|talk]]) 21:20, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

== Bulbagarden Archives ==

I have a problem that I keep sending the confirmation e-mail like every week but it doesn't show up. I'm saying it here because I haven't confirmed my e-mail on Archives. Someone please help me!!!!!!--[[User:lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 10:26, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
:Have you checked it isn't getting caught by the spam filter on your email? Maybe check that the email address is right too? <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 10:42, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
::Thanks Wardnae, I accidentally wrote the wrong email.--[[User:lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 23:42, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
== Sizes on Pokémon pages.. ==

Something that's been bugging me for a while. I've been manually going around and resizing the main art boxes at the top of each Pokémon page so they all match each other and look uniform. However, many times box sizes will still be off by a few pixels. Would there be anyway to code something that keeps them all the same size? [http://i54.tinypic.com/28rcc53.png] is an example of what Ii'm talking about. Basically, the box that surrounds the art.~★ '''[[User:Cubic Question|''cubic'']][[User talk:Cubic Question|''QUESTION'']]''' 13:48, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
:Even if you make the width a certain size, the length will be different according to the size of the art. To get it uniform, you would have to make every file have some whitespace so it would be the same size. That won't happen though. The boxes don't really need to be uniform in size. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 20:23, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

== Litsen... ==

First of all, I have a idea of a section in the pokemon's main page. Footprint. It'll be good. also, the Pronunciation topic above^^. We can take Right pronunciation from [http://pokemon.wikia.com/ Pokemon Wiki]. I know its cheating, but, Ill help us. --[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 11:41, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
:The footprint is already in each Pokémon's infobox. And, we already discussed that the pronunciation caused conflict, and the Pokémon Wiki is far from a reliable source. So we probably won't be adding the pronunciation to each's Pokémon's page. [[User:Takharii|'''たか''']][[User talk:Takharii|'''はり''']][[Special:Contributions/Takharii|'''い''']] 11:08, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
::By the way I think you were trying to say Listen not Litsen?--[[User:lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 11:09, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
:::Well, Pronunciation is what admins can do when the wiki lets locked. also, wouldn't they need help adding 150 and more pokemon?--[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 11:41, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
::::Pronunciation is conflicting. It isn't just hard work. For example, Bonsly was pronounced with an ē once, then with an ī in another time. One was in the movie, the other in the anime, I've just forgotten which. [[User:Turtwig A|Turtwig's]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A-B-Cs]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 11:58, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::Oh Really? We All Know That Charmander is pronounced ''Chaar-man-der''. Easy Enough?? Just search on google for pokemon pronunciation.--[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 12:05, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
::::::Yeah, no Google searching, thanks. The official sources (Official Handbooks, Anime, and Video Games) don't always agree on pronunciations of Pokémon names. Now, if the official sources all agree at one point, then we will add them. But until then, they're not going on the species pages. - [[User:Kogoro|'''<sc>Kogoro</sc>''']] '''|''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''<sc>Talk to me</sc>''']] - 12:16, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
Okay Then. Moving to the next topic. What About Something at the Top of The Pokemon pics To Change the Picture into other generation art or to a Different form?--[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 12:25, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
:Most form changing Pokémon have their forms rotated based on the current time (see {{p|Arceus}}, then refresh the page). As for different generations, the infoboxes are set to display it on certain days—for example, on the anniversary of Red and Blue the Pokémon pages displayed their Red and Blue artwork (for those that have it). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 12:44, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

== Doesn't look like the servers are being nice ==

No, I'm not geting 504s (or, if I am, FireFox is hiding them); I'm getting something even worse: pages not loading at all. A couple of days ago, I was going to come here to get a small amount of information, and it took ages to do so (so long in fact that I just got it O_O). I think the servers are being overstressed - despite the fact that I was getting good ping times off of 10 pings to the site's router (if there is one), I couldn't load any pages - not even robots.txt! That is just a simple text document, and it wouldn't even load! I would start the lockdown soon, as the closer to release we get, the more activity we are likely to get.

I consider myself lucky I could even get on right now. [[User:TruePikachu|--TruePikachu]] 06:37, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

:The fifth generation Pokemon are invading Bulbapedia and interfering with the system! I haven't actually noticed any problems yet though, which is strange. [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 20:38, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

== Finally! ==

as i mentioned Form changing above, We can use A method for pokemon with 2 different forms like giratina and shellos

Method: All you guys saw Avatar, Everyone Saw. Now See The [http://james-camerons-avatar.wikia.com Avatar Wiki]'s Jake Sully Article. There is a button below the pic to change the Picture into Human/Avatar. We can use that Method.--[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 16:48, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

:That's a really good idea actually, I think it would be better than the Pokemon's form just changing periodically. Perhaps now Bulbapedia is being upgraded for the fifth generation, it would be a convenient time for recoding the articles. [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 20:36, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
::I dunno. Shaymin is also two formes, and changes with time. Shellos and Giratina, by the way, are not random. It's based on the hours. And unfortunately, that just changes the infobox picture; there are '''''several''''' things that change for forme changers. Unless your Ground-type moves miss against Altered Forme Giratina. What's that? They don't? But you can only use Earthquake five times? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:11, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
:::Wikimon has a more extensive one that allows you to toggle the whole box, for example in the [http://wikimon.net/Agumon Agumon article], click the tabs. It even integrates the table of contents into it. Pretty clever. - [[User:DanPMK|MK]] ([[User Talk:DanPMK|t]]/[[Special:contributions/DanPMK|c]]) 04:57, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
::::see, only arceus has several things that needed to be changed. what about others?--[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 07:52, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::What about Mebukijika and Genesect (yes, Genesect has other formes (I think five or six?)) [[User:Zekasaur|Zekasaur]] 10:53, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

:I also support the toggle idea. By the way, it has been mentioned in Arbok's Pokédex entries that it has at least six different patterns, of which two have appeared in official game art. Maybe it would be worthwhile to also toggle these two the same way? --[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 09:05, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
::I say we just stick with actual forme changes, and not include design differences between canons. [[User:PDL|PDL]] 14:24, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

== Metric tags in Pokédex entries ==
All pokedex entries use the imperial units of measurement from the US translation. I suggest adding tags with the metric counterparts for two reasons:

1 - the original Japanese entries use metric units, so it could be seen as "more canon".

2 - there are international users of Bulbapedia (me included) that are not used to imperial units.

For example, the final sentence in Magneton's entry in Yellow could be: ''It raises the temperature by {{tt|3.6F degrees|2°C}} within {{tt|3,300 feet|1 km}}.''

If the staff agrees, I'm willing to go through all Pokedex entries and add the metric values. I know enough Japanese to easily get the official values from the pokedex entries listed on the Japanese wiki, assuming those are correct.

--[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 09:05, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

:Metric system seems like a pretty simple and straightforward thing to include, it's merely a big job to go through ''everything'' and add the metric equivalent. Perhaps starting small, with say the Pokémon infobox only for now, and work our way up (every infobox should list the Pokémon's height and weight, so it's the most prominent use of the imperial system). Pokédex entries are also pretty simple, but I'd also say they're the less important area to work on (no complaints if you want to fix them all yourself, however). --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 11:28, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

::Each Pokemon already have both their imperial and metric height and weight listed in their infobox, except for Generation 5, because their imperial values are not yet officially known. So pokedex entries are the most important area left to work on, as far as I can see. --[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 13:37, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

:::Unless someone else has a big complaint about it, I don't see why you can't go ahead and update those, in that case. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 14:47, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

::::I have done 101 out of 493 for now. I may have missed a few in scanning all those entries. --[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 23:59, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

== Question? ==

The option to write in the discussion for the Pokemon Black and White Versions isn't there. Are we not aloud to write there? --[[User:Mew is the Original One|Mew is the Original One]] 21:16, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
:Yeah, but only if you're autoconfirmed, meaning you've been registered for a certain amount of time and have made a certain number of edits.--[[User:Cold|Cold]] ([[User talk:Cold|talk]]) 21:22, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
::OK thanks --[[User:Mew is the Original One|Mew is the Original One]] 22:09, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
:::What is the amount of time and important edits? [[User:Zekasaur|Zekasaur]] 10:49, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

== 3D Artwork ==

This is something that's been on my mind for a while now, but I couldn't bring it up due to the lockdown. Does anyone else think it would be a good idea to possibly include 3D images of Pokémon and Pokémon moves, like what's done for anime? It could be done in a seperate section or sub-section of the articles. Oh, and I don't mean updating every time a new 3D game comes out; I mean adding images for each time a move or Pokémon has appeared in a 3D game, like images of Pidgeot from its appearances in Pokémon Stadium through Pokémon Battle Revolution. I don't know if this has been brought up before, but is this notion a good idea?--[[User:Black Yin Zekrom|Black Yin Zekrom]] 00:06, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
:Although i don't know much, but taking 3D Pics will be hard and i don't think its a very good idea.--[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 11:07, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Well, I don't quite know how it's done, but you don't take 3D pics by using a camera or something. The quality of the 3D images here prove that.--[[User:Black Yin Zekrom|Black Yin Zekrom]] 15:25, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

== Lylat Wiki ==

[http://starfoxwiki.org/Lylat_Wiki Lylat Wiki] is now a part of NIWA, Oct 8th and 15th two others will be added, so might wanna add that to your NIWA bar ;] [[User:Malake256|Malake256]] 17:03, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

== Main page design ==

Does no one else think Tsutarja is missing?
We have Bulbasaur, Treecko, Chikorita and Turtwig pics on the main page, but no Tsutarja (or victini if you want the first pokémon in the dex) I can feel it's absence when I look at the page. [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 19:55, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
:main page uses animated minisprites. we dont have Gen V animated minisprites. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[Special:Contributions/MAGNEDETH|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 19:56, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
::Yet. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:09, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
:::I can ''Make'' Them Animate. but it wont we official, and Archives are currently blocked.--[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 20:33, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
:::I see. That's a little worrying because they're not animated on my screen. [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 17:10, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
::::What browser are you running? --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 07:26, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::on chrome and IE they don't work, only firefox. [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 12:44, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
::::::I've heard that they also work on Opera. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 06:04, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Actually,there is a Tsutarja animated sprite Bulbagarden Archives, but there's no space for it. However, a Victini sprite has also been uploaded. [[User:Jlin8002|Jlin8002]] 00:00, 9 October 2010 (UTC)Jlin8002

== Shiny Gen V Sprites ==

I would like to know where we are going to put the shiny sprites for the fifth generation Pokémon. I have the sprites (official). [[User:Zekasaur|Zekasaur]] 10:47, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
:We have them, however we have yet to upload them. I guess I could do them today. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 11:28, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

== Translations ==

This is a big job, and would probably be a bad idea, but could we translate Bulbapedia into other languages? I know that we already have basic translations of Pokémon and Moves, but what about the rest of it?----[[User:Chalkwriter|Chalk]][[User talk:Chalkwriter|writer]] 18:08, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
:May I direct your attention [[Encyclopædiæ Pokémonis|here]] ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 18:09, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

== Clearer distinction between "natural" and Dream World abilities. ==

I think the distinction between pokémon that only have certain abilities through the Pokémon Dream World and those that don't can be made clearer. For example, on pages of separate abilities there is just one table with normal and PDW pokémon all mixed up, while it would be easier to make separate tables for both. I think this would help both users that own Pokémon Black or White and those that don't. Besides that we could also make a category for "Abilities exclusive to Pokémon Dream World", like {{a|Harvest}}. --[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 00:22, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
:On the separate pages, they are specfically listed in a separate column that says "Dream World ability". That seems separate enough. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 00:24, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
::Yes, but I think it would be easier if for example you are looking for a pokémon that has a certain ability, that you don't have to go through a list of which half of the pokémon are Dream World pokémon. Even for Dream World users like me pokémon in wild and in Dream World are two completely separate things. But yeah, it's not that necessary. --[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 09:32, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

== Grammar error ==

Being the Grammar Nazi I am, I have spotted an error I can't fix. I accidentally got logged out while editing a userpage, and I noticed there is a lack of space between sentences on the message that explains that new users cannot edit userpages. This is really bothering me, so could anyone with the power to edit the MediaWiki namespace fix it? [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 02:13, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
:Done, I think. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:20, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

== Update on Message to the Editor ==

[[Template:Main Page/Message from the Editor|'''This''']] should be updated, no? I think people would like to know it's been unlocked [[User:Malake256|Malake256]] 02:51, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

Template talk:Niwa

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==Typo in interwiki link==
Adance Wars (series) =/= Advance Wars (series). Please fix ASAP. [[User:MathijsP|MathijsP]] 12:03, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

== Update ==
Lylat Wiki has joined NIWA and two other wikis will be joining soon so this template needs to be updated [http://www.niwanetwork.org/ NIWA]. [[User:Solar Dragon|Solar Dragon]] 07:44, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

==Update Numero Dos==
Here to remind you guys that yet another wiki has been added to [http://niwanetwork.org/ NIWA] :p The very schmexy [http://www.pikminwiki.com/Main_Page Pikipedia] [[User:Malake256|Malake256]] 02:55, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
:Shouldn't [[Pikcanon-NOT!]] be included on the template as well? --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 05:59, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
::I'm thinking{{tt|-NOT!|see what I did there?}} for now. It is kind of off-side to the rest. It is only a member because it's a tag-a-long to [[Pikipedia]]. If it were to be included, it would share a box with [[Pikipedia]]. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 09:03, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
:::I think it should. The members of them persuaded Pikipedia to move. Not to mention that they are put separate on the hub site and the wikis section. I think the template should have something like Pikipedia/Pikcanon-NOT though. It's [[User:Turtwig A|Turtwig A]]! [[User talk:Turtwig A|My talk]] or [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|wiki edits]] 17:11, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
::::It has now been added to the NIWA homepage so I feel it should be added in. [[User:Solar Dragon|Solar Dragon]] 21:09, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::New addition strategy wiki. They're coming in weekly on Fridays for a while probably.

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Malake256:

Ground (type)

2010-10-08T03:28:21Z

Malake256: /* Pure Ground-type Pokémon */

{{ElementalTypes}}
{{TypeNotice|Ground|じめん|Ground}}
Notable trainers that specialize in Ground-type Pokémon are [[Giovanni]] of [[Viridian City]], [[Bertha]] of the [[Sinnoh]] [[Elite Four]], and [[Yacon]] of [[Hodomoe City]].

==Statistical averages==
===Overall===
{{BaseStatNoCat|
type=ground|
HP=66 |
Attack=81 |
Defense=86 |
SpAtk=53 |
SpDef=58 |
Speed=54 }}

===Fully evolved===
{{BaseStatNoCat|
type=ground|
HP=86.22 |
Attack=100.87 |
Defense=102.30 |
SpAtk=69.57 |
SpDef=75.87 |
Speed=63.96 }}


==Battle properties==
{{typebattle
|type=Ground
|weakto1=Ice
|weakto2=Grass
|weakto3=Water
|resist1=Poison
|resist2=Rock
|weaken1=Electric
|weaken2=Fire
|weaken3=Poison
|weaken4=Rock
|weaken5=Steel
|resisted1=Bug
|resisted2=Grass
|noeffect1=Flying
|unaffected1=Electric
}}

==Characteristics==
Defensively, the Ground type is somewhat risky. It is weak to the common types Water, Grass and Ice. It resists Poison, which is a rare offensive type, and Rock. It is, however, immune to the Electric-type, posing a great advantage due to the minority of Pokémon resisting Electric-type moves that are not Electric-types themselves, and the fact that as of Generation V, only {{p|Zekrom}} and {{p|Rotom}}'s Mow Form have a ¼ resistance to Electric.

Offensively, the Ground type is one of the three most important attacking types, together with Ice and Fighting. It is the only type super-effective against Electric, and is super-effective against five types in total; only the Fighting type is as powerful as this. It is also super-effective against the best defensive type, Steel. Grass- and Bug-types do resist Ground, but many of them lose their Ground resistance due to being part Poison. This, combined with the fact that the highly damaging, very accurate and rather popular (especially among physical attackers) move {{m|Earthquake}} has been available as [[TM26]] in every generation so far, leads to Ground being very potent offensively.

The greatest disadvantage of the Ground type is that it does not affect the very common Flying-type Pokémon at all, or Pokémon with {{a|Levitate}}.

The Ground type combines very well with the Ice-type, as Ice covers Grass and Flying, while Ground covers Rock, Steel, and Fire. Ground and Rock also work very well together; Rock covers Ice and Flying while Ground covers Steel; as of Generation V, only {{p|Claydol}}, {{p|Flygon}}, {{p|Bronzong}} with Levitate, {{p|Breloom}}, {{p|Torterra}}, and {{p|Birijion}} resist both Rock and Ground. Most Ground-type Pokémon are able to learn Rock-type moves, possibly for that very purpose. Ground can pair up nicely with Flying, as it makes the Flying-type immune to Electric attacks, which are one of the Flying-types' weaknesses and at the same time make then immune to Earthquake. Also, as of Generation V, only fourteen Pokémon out of nearly 650 can resist both Ground and Flying: {{p|Zapdos}}, {{p|Aerodactyl}}, {{p|Skarmory}}, {{p|Solrock}}, {{p|Lunatone}}, {{p|Bronzor}}, {{p|Bronzong}} (only if they have Levitate), {{p|Aaken}}, {{p|Aakeosu}}, {{p|Emonga}}, {{p|Shibishirasu}}, {{p|Shibibiiru}}, {{p|Shibirudon}}, and {{p|Borutorosu}}.

When used in contests, Ground-type moves typically become [[Tough Contest|Tough]] moves. No Ground-type moves are [[Beauty Contest|Beauty]] moves, while they can be the other three types.

In total, there are 59 Pokémon with the Ground-type.

==Pokémon==
===Pure Ground-type Pokémon===
{| {| align="center" style="background: #{{ground color light}}; {{roundy|1em}}; border: 5px solid #{{ground color}};"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" align="center" class="sortable" style="{{roundybottom}}; background: #FFFFFF; border:1px solid #{{ground color light}}; border-collapse:collapse;"
|-style="background: #{{ground color light}};"
! #
!
! Name
|-
|027
|{{MSP|027|Sandshrew}}
|{{p|Sandshrew}}
|-
|028
|{{MSP|028|Sandslash}}
|{{p|Sandslash}}
|-
|050
|{{MSP|050|Diglett}}
|{{p|Diglett}}
|-
|051
|{{MSP|051|Dugtrio}}
|{{p|Dugtrio}}
|-
|104
|{{MSP|104|Cubone}}
|{{p|Cubone}}
|-
|105
|{{MSP|105|Marowak}}
|{{p|Marowak}}
|-
|231
|{{MSP|231|Phanpy}}
|{{p|Phanpy}}
|-
|232
|{{MSP|232|Donphan}}
|{{p|Donphan}}
|-
|328
|{{MSP|328|Trapinch}}
|{{p|Trapinch}}
|-
|383
|{{MSP|383|Groudon}}
|{{p|Groudon}}
|-
|449
|{{MSP|449|Hippopotas}}
|{{p|Hippopotas}}
|-
|450
|{{MSP|450|Hippowdon}}
|{{p|Hippowdon}}
|-
| 529
|{{MSP|529|Mogurew}}
|{{p|Mogurew}}
|}
|}

===Half Ground-type Pokémon===
''Primary Ground-type Pokémon''
{| {| align="center" style="background: #{{ground color light}}; -moz-border-radius: 1em; border: 5px solid #{{ground color}};"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" align="center" class="sortable" style="background: #FFFFFF; border:1px solid #{{ground color light}}; border-collapse:collapse;"
|-style="background: #{{ground color light}};"

! #
!
! Name
! Type 1
! Type 2
|-
|111
|{{MSP|111|Rhyhorn}}
|{{p|Rhyhorn}}
{{typetable|Ground}}
{{typetable|Rock}}
|-
|112
|{{MSP|112|Rhydon}}
|{{p|Rhydon}}
{{typetable|Ground}}
{{typetable|Rock}}
|-
|207
|{{MSP|207|Gligar}}
|{{p|Gligar}}
{{typetable|Ground}}
{{typetable|Flying}}
|-
|329
|{{MSP|329|Vibrava}}
|{{p|Vibrava}}
{{typetable|Ground}}
{{typetable|Dragon}}
|-
|330
|{{MSP|330|Flygon}}
|{{p|Flygon}}
{{typetable|Ground}}
{{typetable|Dragon}}
|-
|343
|{{MSP|343|Baltoy}}
|{{p|Baltoy}}
{{typetable|Ground}}
{{typetable|Psychic}}
|-
|344
|{{MSP|344|Claydol}}
|{{p|Claydol}}
{{typetable|Ground}}
{{typetable|Psychic}}
|-
|464
|{{MSP|464|Rhyperior}}
|{{p|Rhyperior}}
{{typetable|Ground}}
{{typetable|Rock}}
|-
|472
|{{MSP|472|Gliscor}}
|{{p|Gliscor}}
{{typetable|Ground}}
{{typetable|Flying}}
|-
|530
|{{MSP|530|Doryuzu}}
|{{p|Doryuzu}}
{{typetable|Ground}}
{{typetable|Steel}}
|-
|551
|{{MSP|551|Meguroco}}
|{{p|Meguroco}}
{{typetable|Ground}}
{{typetable|Dark}}
|-
|552
|{{MSP|552|Warubiru}}
|{{p|Warubiru}}
{{typetable|Ground}}
{{typetable|Dark}}
|-
|553
|{{MSP|553|Warubiaru}}
|{{p|Warubiaru}}
{{typetable|Ground}}
{{typetable|Dark}}
|-
|618
|{{MSP|618|Maggyo}}
|{{p|Maggyo}}
{{typetable|Ground}}
{{typetable|Electric}}
|-
|622
|{{MSP|622|Gobitto}}
|{{p|Gobitto}}
{{typetable|Ground}}
{{typetable|Ghost}}
|-
|623
|{{MSP|623|Goruggo}}
|{{p|Goruugu}}
{{typetable|Ground}}
{{typetable|Ghost}}
|-
|645
|{{MSP|645|Randorosu}}
|{{p|Randorosu}}
{{typetable|Ground}}
{{typetable|Flying}}
|}
|}

''Secondary Ground-type Pokémon''
{| {| align="center" style="background: #{{ground color light}}; -moz-border-radius: 1em; border: 5px solid #{{ground color}};"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" align="center" class="sortable" style="background: #FFFFFF; border:1px solid #{{ground color light}}; border-collapse:collapse;"
|-style="background: #{{ground color light}};"
! #
!
! Name
! Type 1
! Type 2
|-
|031
|{{MSP|031|Nidoqueen}}
|{{p|Nidoqueen}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
{{typetable|Ground}}
|-
|034
|{{MSP|034|Nidoking}}
|{{p|Nidoking}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
{{typetable|Ground}}
|-
|074
|{{MSP|074|Geodude}}
|{{p|Geodude}}
{{typetable|Rock}}
{{typetable|Ground}}
|-
|075
|{{MSP|075|Graveler}}
|{{p|Graveler}}
{{typetable|Rock}}
{{typetable|Ground}}
|-
|076
|{{MSP|076|Golem}}
|{{p|Golem}}
{{typetable|Rock}}
{{typetable|Ground}}
|-
|095
|{{MSP|095|Onix}}
|{{p|Onix}}
{{typetable|Rock}}
{{typetable|Ground}}
|-
|194
|{{MSP|194|Wooper}}
|{{p|Wooper}}
{{typetable|Water}}
{{typetable|Ground}}
|-
|195
|{{MSP|195|Quagsire}}
|{{p|Quagsire}}
{{typetable|Water}}
{{typetable|Ground}}
|-
|208
|{{MSP|208|Steelix}}
|{{p|Steelix}}
{{typetable|Steel}}
{{typetable|Ground}}
|-
|220
|{{MSP|220|Swinub}}
|{{p|Swinub}}
{{typetable|Ice}}
{{typetable|Ground}}
|-
|221
|{{MSP|221|Piloswine}}
|{{p|Piloswine}}
{{typetable|Ice}}
{{typetable|Ground}}
|-
|246
|{{MSP|246|Larvitar}}
|{{p|Larvitar}}
{{typetable|Rock}}
{{typetable|Ground}}
|-
|247
|{{MSP|247|Pupitar}}
|{{p|Pupitar}}
{{typetable|Rock}}
{{typetable|Ground}}
|-
|259
|{{MSP|259|Marshtomp}}
|{{p|Marshtomp}}
{{typetable|Water}}
{{typetable|Ground}}
|-
|260
|{{MSP|260|Swampert}}
|{{p|Swampert}}
{{typetable|Water}}
{{typetable|Ground}}
|-
|290
|{{MSP|290|Nincada}}
|{{p|Nincada}}
{{typetable|Bug}}
{{typetable|Ground}}
|-
|322
|{{MSP|322|Numel}}
|{{p|Numel}}
{{typetable|Fire}}
{{typetable|Ground}}
|-
|323
|{{MSP|323|Camerupt}}
|{{p|Camerupt}}
{{typetable|Fire}}
{{typetable|Ground}}
|-
|339
|{{MSP|339|Barboach}}
|{{p|Barboach}}
{{typetable|Water}}
{{typetable|Ground}}
|-
|340
|{{MSP|340|Whiscash}}
|{{p|Whiscash}}
{{typetable|Water}}
{{typetable|Ground}}
|-
|389
|{{MSP|389|Torterra}}
|{{p|Torterra}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
{{typetable|Ground}}
|-
|413
|{{MSP|413G|Wormadam}}
|{{p|Wormadam}}{{tt|*|Sandy Cloak}}
{{typetable|Bug}}
{{typetable|Ground}}
|-
|423
|{{MSP|423|Gastrodon}}
|{{p|Gastrodon}}
{{typetable|Water}}
{{typetable|Ground}}
|-
|443
|{{MSP|443|Gible}}
|{{p|Gible}}
{{typetable|Dragon}}
{{typetable|Ground}}
|-
|444
|{{MSP|444|Gabite}}
|{{p|Gabite}}
{{typetable|Dragon}}
{{typetable|Ground}}
|-
|445
|{{MSP|445|Garchomp}}
|{{p|Garchomp}}
{{typetable|Dragon}}
{{typetable|Ground}}
|-
|473
|{{MSP|473|Mamoswine}}
|{{p|Mamoswine}}
{{typetable|Ice}}
{{typetable|Ground}}
|-
|536
|{{MSP|536|Gamagaru}}
|{{p|Gamagaru}}
{{typetable|Water}}
{{typetable|Ground}}
|-
|537
|{{MSP|537|Gamageroge}}
|{{p|Gamageroge}}
{{typetable|Water}}
{{typetable|Ground}}
|}
|}

==Moves==
===Damage-dealing moves===
{| {| align="center" width="100%" style="background: #{{ground color}}; -moz-border-radius: 1em; border: 5px solid #{{ground color light}};"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" align="center" class="sortable" style="background: #FFFFFF; border:1px solid #{{ground color}}; border-collapse:collapse;"
|- style="background:#{{ground color light}}"
! Name
! Category
! Contest
! Power
! Accuracy
! PP
! width="70pt" | Target
! Notes
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Bone Club}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
{{Contesttable|Tough}}
| class="c" | 65
| class="c" | 85%
| class="c" | 20
| class="c" | One target
| class="l" | Has a 10% chance of causing the target to {{status|Flinch|flinch}}.
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Bone Rush}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
{{Contesttable|Tough}}
| class="c" | 25
| class="c" | 90%{{tt|*|80% prior to Generation V}}
| class="c" | 10
| class="c" | One target
| class="l" | Attacks two to five times in a row.
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Bonemerang}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
{{Contesttable|Cool}}
| class="c" | 50
| class="c" | 90%
| class="c" | 10
| class="c" | One target
| class="l" | Hits twice.
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Dig}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
{{Contesttable|Smart}}
| class="c" | 80
| class="c" | 100%
| class="c" | 10
| class="c" | One target
| class="l" | In battle: User digs the first turn, then strikes the next turn. Out of battle: Used to escape tunnels.
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Drill Liner}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
{{Contesttable|???}}
| class="c" | 80
| class="c" | 95%
| class="c" | 10
| class="c" | One target
| class="l" | Has a high critical hit ratio.
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Earth Power}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
{{Contesttable|Smart}}
| class="c" | 90
| class="c" | 100%
| class="c" | 10
| class="c" | One target
| class="l" | Has 10% chance to lower the target's {{stat|Special Defense}}.
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Earthquake}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
{{Contesttable|Tough}}
| class="c" | 100
| class="c" | 100%
| class="c" | 10
| class="c" | All others
| class="l" | Deals double damage to users using {{m|Dig}}.
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Fissure}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
{{Contesttable|Tough}}
| class="c" | —
| class="c" | 30%
| class="c" | 5
| class="c" | One target
| class="l" | Target faints.
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Smooth Over}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
{{Contesttable|???}}
| class="c" | 60
| class="c" | 100%
| class="c" | 20
| class="c" | One target
| class="l" | Lowers the target's {{stat|Speed}}.
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Magnitude}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
{{Contesttable|Tough}}
| class="c" | Varies
| class="c" | 100%
| class="c" | 30
| class="c" | All others
| class="l" | Damage chosen randomly.
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Mud Bomb}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
{{Contesttable|Smart}}
| class="c" | 65
| class="c" | 85%
| class="c" | 10
| class="c" | One target
| class="l" | Has 30% chance to lower the target's {{stat|accuracy}}.
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Mud Shot}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
{{Contesttable|Tough}}
| class="c" | 55
| class="c" | 95%
| class="c" | 15
| class="c" | One target
| class="l" | Lowers the target's {{stat|Speed}}.
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Mud-Slap}}
{{Statustable|Special}}
{{Contesttable|Cute}}
| class="c" | 20
| class="c" | 100%
| class="c" | 10
| class="c" | One target
| class="l" | Lowers the target's {{stat|accuracy}}.
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Sand Tomb}}
{{Statustable|Physical}}
{{Contesttable|Smart}}
| class="c" | 35{{tt|*|15 prior to Generation V}}
| class="c" | 85%{{tt|*|70% prior to Generation V}}
| class="c" | 15
| class="c" | One target
| class="l" | Attacks for two to five turns.
|}
|}

===Non-damaging moves===
{| {| align="center" width="100%" style="background: #{{ground color}}; -moz-border-radius: 1em; border: 5px solid #{{ground color light}};"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" align="center" class="sortable" style="background: #FFFFFF; border:1px solid #{{ground color}}; border-collapse:collapse;"
|- style="background:#{{ground color light}}"
! Name
! Category
! Contest
! Power
! Accuracy
! PP
! width="70pt" | Target
! Notes
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Mud Sport}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
{{Contesttable|Cute}}
| class="c" | —
| class="c" | —%
| class="c" | 15
| class="c" | All
| class="l" | Weakens {{type2|Electric}} moves.
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Sand-Attack}}{{tt|*|Normal-type in Generation I}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
{{Contesttable|Cute}}
| class="c" | —
| class="c" | 100%
| class="c" | 15
| class="c" | One target
| class="l" | Lowers opponent's {{stat|accuracy}} by 1 level.
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Spikes}}
{{Statustable|Status}}
{{Contesttable|Smart}}
| class="c" | —
| class="c" | —%
| class="c" | 20
| class="c" | Both foes
| class="l" | Lays spikes{{tt|*|Three layers max.}} that damage opponents who switch into battle{{tt|*|Damage depends on how many layers of spikes were laid. Does not affect Flying-types or Pokémon with Levitate}}.
|}
|}

==Trivia==
* Along with the {{type2|Fighting}}, Ground-type moves are super-effective against the most types: five.
* Each generation has introduced at least one Ground-type Pokémon whose English name begins with the letter G.
* Although Ground-type Pokémon are immune to Electric-type attacks, the ability {{a|Static}} still affects them.
* In the anime, Ground-type Pokémon's immunity to Electric-type attacks is sometimes treated inconsistently, sometimes upheld and sometimes ignored.
* All types that resist the {{type2|Flying}} are weak to Ground, and vice versa.
* Even though it only cannot affect Flying-types and Pokémon with Levitate, more Pokémon are unaffected by Ground-type moves than Pokémon which are immune to any other type, due to the sheer number of Pokémon with the two conditions.

==In other languages==
* Chinese: '''地面''' ''dìmiàn''
* Dutch: '''Grond'''
* Finnish: '''Maa'''
* French: '''Sol'''
* German: '''Boden'''
* Greek: '''Έδαφος''' - ''Edafos''
* Hebrew: '''אדמה''' ''adama''
* Italian: '''Terra'''
* Japanese: '''じめん''' (地面) ''jimen''
* Korean: '''땅''' ''ttang''
* Polish: '''Ziemny'''
* Portuguese (Brazilian): '''Solo''' ''Ground'' / '''Terra''' ''earth''
* Russian: '''Земляной''' ''zemlyanoi''
* Spanish: '''Tierra'''

[[de:Boden (Typ)]]
[[es:Tipo Tierra]]
[[fr:Sol]]
[[ja:じめん]]
[[pt:Tipo Ground]]

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You guys sure "Cannon" isn't a better translation...[[User:Malake256|Malake256]] 06:01, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Main Page/Archive 11

2010-10-02T17:03:57Z

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== Previous discussions ==

* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 1|Archive 1]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 2|Archive 2]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 3|Archive 3]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 4|Archive 4]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 5|Archive 5]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 6|Archive 6]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 7|Archive 7]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 8|Archive 8]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 9|Archive 9]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 10|Archive 10]]

== Pokémon cries? ==
Should we add Pokémon cries to the Pokémon articles?--[[User:Starman125|Starman125]] 20:18, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
:It's been tried before, but it caused too many problems. It would still probably cause too much problems now.--[[User:Pokelova|''Poké'']][[User talk:Pokelova|lova!]] 20:23, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
:::[[Talk:Main Page/Archive 10#Pokémon Cries|This has been discussed to death already.]] —♥ [[User:Jello|Jello]][[User Talk:Jello|talk]] 20:24, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
::::We're going to try to get them put in as soon as possible. They've been sitting in a directory on the server for... jeez, at least a year. Last time we tried to put them in, the server exploded. Archaic's been wary of doing it since then. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:35, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
:::::Just out of curiosity, what file format was used for the cries? That may have been the problem.--[[User:Starman125|Starman125]] 20:54, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
::::::Over at de:, we have mp3 with the following syntax: <nowiki>{{#mp3:http://www.greenchu.de/nakigoe/025.mp3}}</nowiki>. I cannot figure out where that parser functions comes from, though.--[[User:Afrael|Afrael]] [[User talk:Afrael|talk]] 00:59, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
:::::::I think having the files like [http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/#music Floatzel.net] have their music files could work well. We might even eventually be able to put route/town/cave music on the pages!--[[User:Pokelova|''Poké'']][[User talk:Pokelova|lova!]] 04:09, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

== Move Trivia ==

Should there be a trivia section for moves? For instance, only one Pokémon can learn [[Steel Wing]] by leveling up.--[[User:Chalkwriter|Chalkwriter]] 16:26, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
:There are for some moves, but not all of them have any notable trivia to add, so there is no sub heading. If you think of '''notable''' trivia, then add the sub-heading and put it in. Thanks, [[User:Samjohn95|Sam]][[User talk:Samjohn95|john]][[Special:contributions/Samjohn95|95]] 21:38, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

== Glitch Pokémon ==

Hi there. I remember when I was around nine, I used to play Pokémon Gold & Crystal, and I remember there was this cloning trick that could clone pokémon and the items that they held. Anyways, I began to notice if I did the right trick at a certain time, (or whatever it was, it has been a while) I managed to get a special type of Pokémon, the trainer. The trainer of course, had no moves and therefore could only struggle, but you could use TMs and everything. I remember having fun with that, but I can't find any info on this.- ''unsigned comment from {{u|Bublador}} ([[User talk:Bublador|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Bublador|contribs]]) ''

Try this page, all of the glitches are on [[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Glitches#All_Generations]] and please sign your comment when you use these talk pages. thank you --[[User:Daniel1993|Daniel1993]] 19:55, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

== Pronunciation ==

I'm just thinking if on every Pokémon's page that we have their Pronunciation somewhere? like this:

Say: Sin-da-qwil

What do you think?--[[User:lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 07:03, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:It's a good idea, but I believe we've had problems with adding pronunciations in the past because of people not agreeing on the "correct" pronunciation (also, sometimes there are conflicting pronunciations from different official sources) --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 07:06, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
::Oh oh then. I just though because some Pokémon I can't pronounce their names--[[User:lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 07:21, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:::If you have a look at the source of, say, Bulbasaur's page, you'll see this:
<pre>{{PokémonInfobox|
name=Bulbasaur |
pron=<sc>''bul''-buh-sore</sc> <ref>Barbo, Maria. ''The Official Pokémon Handbook''. Scholastic Publishing, 1999. ISBN 0-439-10397-5</ref> |
jname=フシギダネ |
tmname=Fushigidane |
</pre>

the "pron=" parameter is not coded into the infobox, so it does appear. But it's there on every Pokemon's page. [[User:Takharii|'''たか''']][[User talk:Takharii|'''はり''']][[Special:Contributions/Takharii|'''い''']] 07:39, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
::::Yes, it's coded in but because of the disagreements on pronunciation and no clear official source for many of them, it was decided to hide them all. If Nintendo or anyone ever releases an official pronunciation guide then we'll be able to put them back up. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 07:43, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::Is whatever the pronunciation is in the English dub of the anime (and similarly the pronunciation in the Japanese dub for those not yet released over here) not enough to justify it? With the exception of the odd time where they've actually changed the pronunciation during it e.g. Regice... '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 13:46, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

== Artwork?! ==

I hate to be the silly one who starts the "What's going on?!!" discussion, but seriously, why have all the pictures of the Generation I Pokémon been changed to the old Red and Green artwork? Is it for an aniversary or something? [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 10:59, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:Yes. Anniversary of RB was yesterday, so Gen I Pokémon got Gen I art. But due to the server cache it took some a while to switch over, and I believe they should all be starting to switch back now, but again, that'll be whenever the server cache gets updated. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 11:24, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
::Actually, maybe it could be put on a switch, like with Gastrodon's forms, so it could switch between old and new artwork periodically. How's that sound? - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 13:49, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:::That's exactly what it did. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:34, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
::::Oh, so it's still in effect? As in, like, permanently? Because that was what I was suggesting. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 22:36, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::Yes, next year and on certain other days the site will have easter egg effects. Yaaaay for surprises. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:32, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
::::::I won't panic when the Gym Leader pictures are replaced by fan art then... [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 11:53, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

== just a though... ==

i realise this is probably in the wrong place, but, as unlocking the generation IV nationaldex and requesting a trade on the GTS require only seeing a particular species of pokémon, would it make sense to include a section explaining where to see them. (and i am aware that the GTS has only around a week left). I know that people (granted they are few) have had problems viewing unown and riolu in DP for example.--[[User:Mr-connor|Mr-connor]] 13:03, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

:There is a section explaining where to see, and catch, Pokémon. It's right below the Pokédex Entries section.--[[user:Mtn otter|Mtn otter]] I lie in wait...... 13:17, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

'''TYPHLOSION LV:50
KINDRA LV:50
ALAKAZAM LV:50
LUGIA LV:45
TYRANITAR LV:55
DRAGONITE LV:57'''

this is my current team for pokemon soulsilver...i think it has room for improvement.
[[User:The a-team|The a-team]] 21:14, 5 September 2010 (UTC)brandon strayhorn[[User:The a-team|The a-team]] 21:14, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
:This isn't the place to put this. Post it on the forums.--[[User:Cold|Cold]] ([[User talk:Cold|talk]]) 21:20, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

== Bulbagarden Archives ==

I have a problem that I keep sending the confirmation e-mail like every week but it doesn't show up. I'm saying it here because I haven't confirmed my e-mail on Archives. Someone please help me!!!!!!--[[User:lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 10:26, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
:Have you checked it isn't getting caught by the spam filter on your email? Maybe check that the email address is right too? <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 10:42, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
::Thanks Wardnae, I accidentally wrote the wrong email.--[[User:lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 23:42, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
== Sizes on Pokémon pages.. ==

Something that's been bugging me for a while. I've been manually going around and resizing the main art boxes at the top of each Pokémon page so they all match each other and look uniform. However, many times box sizes will still be off by a few pixels. Would there be anyway to code something that keeps them all the same size? [http://i54.tinypic.com/28rcc53.png] is an example of what Ii'm talking about. Basically, the box that surrounds the art.~★ '''[[User:Cubic Question|''cubic'']][[User talk:Cubic Question|''QUESTION'']]''' 13:48, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
:Even if you make the width a certain size, the length will be different according to the size of the art. To get it uniform, you would have to make every file have some whitespace so it would be the same size. That won't happen though. The boxes don't really need to be uniform in size. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 20:23, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

== Litsen... ==

First of all, I have a idea of a section in the pokemon's main page. Footprint. It'll be good. also, the Pronunciation topic above^^. We can take Right pronunciation from [http://pokemon.wikia.com/ Pokemon Wiki]. I know its cheating, but, Ill help us. --[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 11:41, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
:The footprint is already in each Pokémon's infobox. And, we already discussed that the pronunciation caused conflict, and the Pokémon Wiki is far from a reliable source. So we probably won't be adding the pronunciation to each's Pokémon's page. [[User:Takharii|'''たか''']][[User talk:Takharii|'''はり''']][[Special:Contributions/Takharii|'''い''']] 11:08, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
::By the way I think you were trying to say Listen not Litsen?--[[User:lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 11:09, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
:::Well, Pronunciation is what admins can do when the wiki lets locked. also, wouldn't they need help adding 150 and more pokemon?--[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 11:41, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
::::Pronunciation is conflicting. It isn't just hard work. For example, Bonsly was pronounced with an ē once, then with an ī in another time. One was in the movie, the other in the anime, I've just forgotten which. [[User:Turtwig A|Turtwig's]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A-B-Cs]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 11:58, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::Oh Really? We All Know That Charmander is pronounced ''Chaar-man-der''. Easy Enough?? Just search on google for pokemon pronunciation.--[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 12:05, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
::::::Yeah, no Google searching, thanks. The official sources (Official Handbooks, Anime, and Video Games) don't always agree on pronunciations of Pokémon names. Now, if the official sources all agree at one point, then we will add them. But until then, they're not going on the species pages. - [[User:Kogoro|'''<sc>Kogoro</sc>''']] '''|''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''<sc>Talk to me</sc>''']] - 12:16, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
Okay Then. Moving to the next topic. What About Something at the Top of The Pokemon pics To Change the Picture into other generation art or to a Different form?--[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 12:25, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
:Most form changing Pokémon have their forms rotated based on the current time (see {{p|Arceus}}, then refresh the page). As for different generations, the infoboxes are set to display it on certain days—for example, on the anniversary of Red and Blue the Pokémon pages displayed their Red and Blue artwork (for those that have it). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 12:44, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

== Doesn't look like the servers are being nice ==

No, I'm not geting 504s (or, if I am, FireFox is hiding them); I'm getting something even worse: pages not loading at all. A couple of days ago, I was going to come here to get a small amount of information, and it took ages to do so (so long in fact that I just got it O_O). I think the servers are being overstressed - despite the fact that I was getting good ping times off of 10 pings to the site's router (if there is one), I couldn't load any pages - not even robots.txt! That is just a simple text document, and it wouldn't even load! I would start the lockdown soon, as the closer to release we get, the more activity we are likely to get.

I consider myself lucky I could even get on right now. [[User:TruePikachu|--TruePikachu]] 06:37, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

:The fifth generation Pokemon are invading Bulbapedia and interfering with the system! I haven't actually noticed any problems yet though, which is strange. [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 20:38, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

== Finally! ==

as i mentioned Form changing above, We can use A method for pokemon with 2 different forms like giratina and shellos

Method: All you guys saw Avatar, Everyone Saw. Now See The [http://james-camerons-avatar.wikia.com Avatar Wiki]'s Jake Sully Article. There is a button below the pic to change the Picture into Human/Avatar. We can use that Method.--[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 16:48, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

:That's a really good idea actually, I think it would be better than the Pokemon's form just changing periodically. Perhaps now Bulbapedia is being upgraded for the fifth generation, it would be a convenient time for recoding the articles. [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 20:36, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
::I dunno. Shaymin is also two formes, and changes with time. Shellos and Giratina, by the way, are not random. It's based on the hours. And unfortunately, that just changes the infobox picture; there are '''''several''''' things that change for forme changers. Unless your Ground-type moves miss against Altered Forme Giratina. What's that? They don't? But you can only use Earthquake five times? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:11, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
:::Wikimon has a more extensive one that allows you to toggle the whole box, for example in the [http://wikimon.net/Agumon Agumon article], click the tabs. It even integrates the table of contents into it. Pretty clever. - [[User:DanPMK|MK]] ([[User Talk:DanPMK|t]]/[[Special:contributions/DanPMK|c]]) 04:57, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
::::see, only arceus has several things that needed to be changed. what about others?--[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 07:52, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

:I also support the toggle idea. By the way, it has been mentioned in Arbok's Pokédex entries that it has at least six different patterns, of which two have appeared in official game art. Maybe it would be worthwhile to also toggle these two the same way? --[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 09:05, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
::I say we just stick with actual forme changes, and not include design differences between canons. [[User:PDL|PDL]] 14:24, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

== Metric tags in Pokédex entries ==
All pokedex entries use the imperial units of measurement from the US translation. I suggest adding tags with the metric counterparts for two reasons:

1 - the original Japanese entries use metric units, so it could be seen as "more canon".

2 - there are international users of Bulbapedia (me included) that are not used to imperial units.

For example, the final sentence in Magneton's entry in Yellow could be: ''It raises the temperature by {{tt|3.6F degrees|2°C}} within {{tt|3,300 feet|1 km}}.''

If the staff agrees, I'm willing to go through all Pokedex entries and add the metric values. I know enough Japanese to easily get the official values from the pokedex entries listed on the Japanese wiki, assuming those are correct.

--[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 09:05, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

:Metric system seems like a pretty simple and straightforward thing to include, it's merely a big job to go through ''everything'' and add the metric equivalent. Perhaps starting small, with say the Pokémon infobox only for now, and work our way up (every infobox should list the Pokémon's height and weight, so it's the most prominent use of the imperial system). Pokédex entries are also pretty simple, but I'd also say they're the less important area to work on (no complaints if you want to fix them all yourself, however). --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 11:28, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

::Each Pokemon already have both their imperial and metric height and weight listed in their infobox, except for Generation 5, because their imperial values are not yet officially known. So pokedex entries are the most important area left to work on, as far as I can see. --[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 13:37, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

:::Unless someone else has a big complaint about it, I don't see why you can't go ahead and update those, in that case. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 14:47, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

::::I have done 101 out of 493 for now. I may have missed a few in scanning all those entries. --[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 23:59, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

== Question? ==

The option to write in the discussion for the Pokemon Black and White Versions isn't there. Are we not aloud to write there? --[[User:Mew is the Original One|Mew is the Original One]] 21:16, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
:Yeah, but only if you're autoconfirmed, meaning you've been registered for a certain amount of time and have made a certain number of edits.--[[User:Cold|Cold]] ([[User talk:Cold|talk]]) 21:22, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
OK thanks --[[User:Mew is the Original One|Mew is the Original One]] 22:09, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

== 3D Artwork ==

This is something that's been on my mind for a while now, but I couldn't bring it up due to the lockdown. Does anyone else think it would be a good idea to possibly include 3D images of Pokémon and Pokémon moves, like what's done for anime? It could be done in a seperate section or sub-section of the articles. Oh, and I don't mean updating every time a new 3D game comes out; I mean adding images for each time a move or Pokémon has appeared in a 3D game, like images of Pidgeot from its appearances in Pokémon Stadium through Pokémon Battle Revolution. I don't know if this has been brought up before, but is this notion a good idea?--[[User:Black Yin Zekrom|Black Yin Zekrom]] 00:06, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
:Although i don't know much, but taking 3D Pics will be hard and i don't think its a very good idea.--[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 11:07, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Well, I don't quite know how it's done, but you don't take 3D pics by using a camera or something. The quality of the 3D images here prove that.--[[User:Black Yin Zekrom|Black Yin Zekrom]] 15:25, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

== Lylat Wiki ==

[http://starfoxwiki.org/Lylat_Wiki Lylat Wiki] is now a part of NIWA, Oct 8th and 15th two others will be added, so might wanna add that to your NIWA bar ;] [[User:Malake256|Malake256]] 17:03, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

Bulbapedia talk:Project Pokédex/Archive 3

2010-10-02T05:00:11Z

Malake256: /* Sound */ new section

==Archives==
* [[/Archive 1|Archive 1]] (discussions from March 14, 2005–August 26, 2006)
* [[/Archive 2|Archive 2]] (discussions from October 7, 2006–May 19, 2007)

== About external links and fan shrines... ==

I couldn't help but notice that within the Project Pokedex section, it is mentioned that Pokemon can receive not only wikipedia links but fan shrine links, too.

Now, before I jumped ahead of myself, I checked a few of the obviously more popular Pokemon, like Eevee or Pikachu. You can't go wrong with that. What I noticed is that the only fan stuffs listed is fanlistings, though. While that's something, it is what it is... a list. Granted, Poke-centric (that is, non human) shrines seem to be hard to come by in the 'States for some reason.

So, my question is, what would I have to do to get a fan shrine listed? Does there have to meet certain requirements? Is it necessary that it's a fanlisting? The site is in English, in case you're wondering. I know the ratio of Japanese artsy Poke-centric sites to US ones is extremely skewed in their favor, so I can see where that could be a concern, if a concern at all.
--[[User:Nidorino|Nidorino]] 16:56, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
:I would say in this matter, it's more quality that matters than notability. If you have a site that is good enough to be of interest to someone looking for some sort of information on the Pokémon - go ahead and add it. But if it's something that's low-quality and not useful, expect to see the link removed shortly after.
:Also, I would rule that foreign language sites can also be included - but with stricter inclusion standards, at the bottom of the external links list, and with its language included in parentheses so people don't click expecting an English site and get something in a different language. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] ~[[User talk:Pie|♪]][[Special:Contributions/Pie|♫]] 18:03, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

::Well, it's actually more interesting and for leisure than it is informational. I sorta made it both because I thought the Nidoran line was severely underappreciated and I got a little tired of the thousands of informational Pokemon sites but no fun multimedia ones. I suppose for what it's worth, it'll probably be really nice for any Pokemon fan since there's lots to see and do (for a Nido centric site, it's actually doing really well), I put a ''lot'' of work into it as well.

::The quality lies in the content, I go all out on what talents I have all for the sake of Nido Pokemon. There's also people who share the same idea, so a lot of contributions have come from people all over, it's probably ''one of'' the biggest Nido fan gatherings, which truthfully isn't a hard goal to aspire for considering the Pokemon in question. My main reasoning behind it, though, is that I just think that Nido fans shouldn't be left out of the picture, considering I know how hard it is to find anything interesting about them at all.

::So I guess what it comes down to is what one wants. It someone's trying to read hard facts, well, they could do that anywhere. But if someone's looking for something fun and different, that's the goal I want to accomplish.

::Would that still be okay?--[[User:Nidorino|Nidorino]] 18:17, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

== Biology ==

There's been a bit of controversy over the content in the biology section of {{p|Typhlosion}}'s article. It may be an idea to keep an eye over the stuff that goes in that section. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 23:13, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
:... how in the world did we miss that? D: --[[User:Pie|Pie]] ~[[User talk:Pie|♪]][[Special:Contributions/Pie|♫]] 00:34, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

Darn, i want to know what it says lol [[User:Broloth|Broloth]] 06:42, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

==Diamond and Pearl Pokéradar==
In relation to the Pokeradar in Daimond and Pearl. Should it be mentioned in the Rarity section like [[Nidoran♀ (Pokémon)]] or in the Location section like [[Venonat (Pokémon)]]. Just asking so that there can be some consistancy in the articles. [[User:Pterodactal|Pterodactal]] 08:44, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
:Do we need to point out that the Pokéradar Pokémon are rare? If not, we have a free space to fit it in:
{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #{{poison color}};"
! Game
! [[Rarity]]
! Location
|-
| [[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl]] || [[Pokéradar]] || [[Route 201]]
|}
:Otherwise, I prefer how Venonat looks. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 17:05, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
:They aren't always rare. And I've been adding in an availability template to Pokémon pages:

{{Availability|
type=ice |
gen=3 |
rsrarity=Few |
rsarea=[[Shoal Cave]] |
erarity=Few |
earea=[[Shoal Cave]] |
dprarity=Rare |
dparea=[[Route]]s {{rtn|216}} and {{rtn|217}}, [[Acuity Lakefront]] ([[Poké Radar]]) |
}}

That's what {{p|Snorunt}} has. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 01:07, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

::I'm missing how that template affects the current issue. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 21:50, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the help. So what about those in the Trophy Garden but need the pokéradar to be found. Should this be mentioned in the location section as well as that they are found in the Trophy Garden? The question was raised when looking at the [[Meowth]] page. {{unsigned|Pterodactal}}

:Yes, it should mention on both pages. And the page is on {{p|Meowth}}, [[Meowth]] is a disambiguation page, so you'd better use the {{template|p}} template. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 18:22, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
::Ok but what about the PokéRadar in the Trophy Garden?[[User:Pterodactal|Pterodactal]] 10:03, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
:::What do you mean? '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 00:08, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
::::All of the pokemon that change daily in the Trophy Garden eg Happiny, Porygon and Mime Jr. require Pokeradar to find. Should this be mentioned in the template's location section? [[User:Pterodactal|Pterodactal]] 06:34, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
:::::Do they? If so, well, do like Snorunt. Put "[[Trophy Garden]] ([[Poké Radar]])" in the dparea thing. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 09:50, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
::::::The Trophy Garden Pokémon '''don't''' need Poké Radar. You just need to walk around a lot. - - - '''[[User:Dra2k4|dra''2k4'']]''' 09:20, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

DONE THANKS GUYS [[User:Pterodactal|Pterodactal]] 11:26, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

==Tiers==
Might it be a good idea to create a category for each tier of Pokémon, as of Diamond/Pearl? It would be a bit easier for people to find out what tier their Pokémon is by just scrolling down, as opposed to navigating to the [[list of tiers]] page. {{unsigned|Blink}}
:Well, I dunno, it's really more arbitrary than others. For example, I consider Gorebyss to be pretty good, but I've never used Skarmory. And let's not forget that the list of tiers is in need of cleanup; it seems pretty damn opinionated (and that's not because it says that Typhlosion is "not recommended for use outside of its tier"). After all, any Pokémon can be good if you can figure out how to make it that way. Heck, it's my opinion that the list of tiers is the same sort of "we'll tell you how to play Pokémon and not let you have fun" thing as that recommended movesets thing that was here a while back. Also, don't forget to sign comments with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 02:23, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
::Whoops, sorry about that. Fair point I guess, but it might be handy for competitive players in particular kinds of battle, Never-Used for example. [[User:Blink|Blink]] 15:20, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
:::True, but eh. We have many of their level-up movesets, and most of their learnable TMs and HMs listed, as well as their base stats. Itdoes take a bit of investigating, still, to see whether the move in question on their list is Physical or Special, though, but as for how to change this? Beats me...
:::I do think, however, that that would be a better thing to do. Let people make up their own strategies, we'd possibly get more variety in teams. After all, I know that I figured out that Typhlosion wasn't as good with variety on my own, since it can barely learn any Special moves that aren't Fire, but it took me a bit of searching. I'm gonna do some experimenting in my sandbox about how to indicate the Physical/Special/Status moves in my sandbox. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 01:01, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
::::Are tiers just a fandom thing, or was there ever an official list published, even for RSE/FRLG etc?[[User:Blink|Blink]] 14:45, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
← 
Far as I know they're just a fandom thing. I've never seen an official Nintendo list that says, outright "CATERPIE SUCKS NEVER EVER EVER USE IT." even if '''''everyone''''' knows this to be true. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 19:25, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

So any pokemon can be useful eh? Weedle vs. T-Tar lol. {{unsigned|Scarfcrosspwns}}
:Nintendo hasn't said not, therefore, yes, Weedle vs Tyranitar is fine. Frickin' go for it. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 03:33, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

First off I want to say that not only does the Tier List need to be made more easily accessible, but a list of Items banned from competitive play would be nice too. I know Quick Claw and Focus Band is out of the question, but Im sure there are more that I don't know about.
Now onto the business at hand.Nintendo actually has hinted at the fact that their are "tiers" in the game. If we look at the Battle Tower in D/P (for example) most of the ubers aren't allowed. The reason Wobbuffett was put on the list was because if two Wobbuffett started off against each other in metagame, you'd have a 65 - 70 turn snoozefest on your hands. The reason Latios and Latias aren't on the in-game uber list, is because not everybody has Soul Dew. The game was designed with balance in mind. Pokemon like Weedle and Caterpie do have a tier called NFE (Not Fully Evolved) now granted some Pokemon are good if NFE (i.e. Trapinch and Pikachu) some Pokemon were designed to not compete with others. Sure you can fight Weedle versus Tyranitar, and sure no one is going to tell you "no you can't do that", but there will be people telling you that Weedle vs. Tyranitar is not too hot of an idea. Flareon is a perfect example of Nintendo designing a Pokemon to not compete with others, you don't think Nintendo didn't realize "we gave a very physical attack oriented Pokemon very few choices when it came to physical attacks" do you? Regigigas is another example, they made sure it didn't get Protect or Rest. And no, Nintendo will never release a list saying "these Pokemon are good, these Pokemon are ok, these Pokemon suck" no company would ever do that cause it would completely take away from the game; Blizzard for instance will never say "rogues are the best kekekek" because then everyone would be rolling rogue. Just like Nintendo will never say "teams without Garchomp in it are destined to fail"; and we must remember that the Tiers Lists are for competitive play, it is indeed very possible to defeat the Elite Four and the Champion using UU and NU Pokemon, but in WiFi games, no a Lopunny will not be able to legitimately beat a Physical Dragonite 1v1. Imagine how annoying it would be to fight an Elite Four member with all OU Pokemon using Hax Items that didn't follow standard battle rules. First battle Bug, Choice Scarf Parasect to Spore EVERYONE of your Pokemon, Choice Band Heracross rocking people who can't counter it, Agility sweeping Life Orb Scizor bending over everything that wasn't resistant to Steel Bug and Fighting, Shuckle, sitting there with its 614 max defenses with only 3 weaknesses, 2 not being too common, Yanmega scouting us for attacks and passing on its speed to someone really slow, and then Pinsir with a bone to pick with whatever was left. Then we'd have Pokemon like a max Cursed out Snorlax getting Quick Claw procs, or Garchomps with Bright Powder milking the fruits of Tyranitar's labor. That's all I'll say for now, and props to whoever is able to read all this. [[User:Broloth|Broloth]] 06:33, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

== Learnsets ==

Okay, I know we'll all agree that other sites that indicate the type and category of a move on the Pokémon's page are helpful for quick lookers. Sure, we shouldn't add power, accuracy, PP, and all that, but at the very least the type and category of the move.

[[User:TTEchidna/Sandbox/Bulbasaur|So this is what I've come up with for Bulbasaur]]. It still indicates STAB, if a person's too lazy to scroll up to see what types the Pokémon is, and for Gen IV, it indicates Physical/Special in addition to type so that a person can pick out moves depending on the stats of the Pokémon as well as its types.

Thoughts? I certainly think that this could make the Pokémon pages much better than they are. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 09:45, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
:I think you could be on to something here. It even looks a bit better, aesthetically speaking, than the current table. [[User:Blink|Blink]] 19:24, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

:: Looks very nice. I feel sorry for you though, having to do that 492 more times. [[User:Zurqoxn|Zurqoxn]] 06:08, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
:::Yeah... unless I get some help... '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 06:32, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
::::That's very good. I like the layout better than the current one, since it seems easier to read and clearly shows whether a move is physical, special or status. -[[User:DarkMazer|DarkMazer]] 03:37, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
Now the best question. Wanna help me add them to all the rest?

Also: I have a new, possibly more improved proposal. [[User:TTEchidna/Sandbox/Bulbasaur/Future|Check it out]]. This way, when we get Gen V, VI, VII, and so on... we won't have to move stuff around besides the current moveset. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 10:08, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
: I like your design. *nod* I would say leave it as separate tables on the same pages for Gen V but when we get to Gen VI change it to separate pages altogether. Though that would be a lot of work of converting all the pages. Perhaps we should start changing the pages once we hear Gen VI will be released? (If it does :P)'''[[User:Dra2k4|dra''2k4'']]''' 19:58, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
::Wouldn't really be much work, per se, if we already have all of the movesets organized into those tables-within-tables like Bulbasaur and some others have. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 09:45, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
:::So when can we get started on changing them? - - - '''[[User:Dra2k4|dra''2k4'']]''' 10:16, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

== Body shape ==

In GenIV, rather than by colour, Pokémon are able to be searched by a general body shape... Unfortunately, these categories are all symbols rather than names. This would make it hard to be included here, but I thought I'd put forth the idea anyway: Sort Pokémon by body shape, like we do with colour. The first thing, though, is that we'd have to come up with an agreeable standard on what each category should be named (since it doesn't do that for us). Just putting forth the idea for discussion, and whether or not the community thinks it would be useful. --[[User:DarkfireTaimatsu|DarkfireTaimatsu]] 04:36, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
:We definately want to have some coverage on it but, as you say, it's going to be diffcult to implement. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 23:10, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
::So, anyone got any ideas for this? '''[[User:TTEchidna|TTE]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:05, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
:::How about we get the sprites from the game for it? As for the category.. um.. "Body Shape 1 Pokémon", etc? That's a suggestion I have. {{ani|281}}[[User:TinaTheKirlia|Tina]][[User:TinaTheKirlia/Sandbox|☆]][[User:TinaTheKirlia/Favorites|♥]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|♫]]{{Ani|380}} 03:06, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
::::But who'll say which is which? '''[[User:TTEchidna|TTE]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:43, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

== Alternate Coloration ==

I've been having plans for starting a subsection to the biology section that describes a Pokémon's alternate coloring. But the thing is, TinatheKirlia told me that such a subsection would be unnecessary because the sprite templates on each article. But I (was with TTEchidna, apparently) believe that describing what a Pokémon's shiny version looks like would be better.--[[User:Pokencyclopedia|Pokencyclopedia]] 20:10, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
:It seems no more redundant than describing the normal form in the first place... --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 22:47, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
::Eh, I really think that there are more important things than telling what color a Pokémon is when shiny, but most especially since the sprites do so, and easily demonstrate the differences among the generations (Bulbasaur itself is tan in Gen II, but green with a dark green bulb in III and IV). '''[[User:TTEchidna|TTE]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:18, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

:::Sometimes the shiny colors (I think this is why) in GenII is because of the limitations of the GBC. Some simple colors, such as [[Red Gyarados]], stay but others such as Bulbasaur and Charizard get a little discolored, because of the limitations.
:::I dunno, but that's my guess. [[User:TinaTheKirlia|Tina]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|The]][[Kirlia (Pokémon)|Kirlia]] ♥ [[Image:281MS.gif]] 23:33, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

::::Sorry about that misunderstanding, TTE. I thought you were agreeing with me.--[[User:Pokencyclopedia|Pokencyclopedia]] 23:23, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

== pronunciation ==

Just relizing that I had "THE OFFICIAL Pokémon Handbook" infront of me. I always hated not knowing how to say the names correctly and in this book it says how is it possible to add a section for the first genneration Pokémon. (That's the only handbook I currently have from my school library).--[[Image:Ani052MS.gif]][[Image:Ani300MS.gif]][[Image:Ani431MS.gif]][[User:kittenchild|kittenchild and her discovery]][[Image:Ani264MS.gif]]A.K.A. ねこさん 01:32, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

I have all of the series of those offical handbooks.................(but what does that have to do with Project Pokédex?????) --[[Image:Spr 3e 059.gif|70px]][[Image:Spr 3e 132.gif]]'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Mission Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Games|2]]''' [[Image:Trozeiani025.gif]] 01:35, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

well they have the pronunciation on every Pokémon shouldn't we put how to say the name of the Pokémon on their page?--[[Image:Ani052MS.gif]][[Image:Ani300MS.gif]][[Image:Ani431MS.gif]][[User:kittenchild|kittenchild and her discovery]][[Image:Ani264MS.gif]]A.K.A. ねこさん 01:39, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Most people know how to say it......but it's an idea........--[[Image:Spr 3e 059.gif|70px]][[Image:Spr 3e 132.gif]]'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Mission Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Games|2]]''' [[Image:Trozeiani025.gif]] 02:00, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

I say this because I'm always fighting with my bro (who is 24) about how to say kyogre
He says it as if it was katakana and I disagree.--[[Image:Ani052MS.gif]][[Image:Ani300MS.gif]][[Image:Ani431MS.gif]][[User:kittenchild|kittenchild and her discovery]][[Image:Ani264MS.gif]]A.K.A. ねこさん 02:03, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

:It would be a useful addition to the infoboxes. The main question is if there is an official source for beyond the first generation. (Since some people insist that the dub pronounces things wrong for some reason.) I know we got Bonsly confirmed from PUSA but not of any source for the rest. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 23:21, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

well I have the handbooks of the second generation, and the third generation as well. --[[Image:Spr 3e 059.gif|70px]][[Image:Spr 3e 132.gif]]'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Mission Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Games|2]]''' [[Image:Trozeiani025.gif]] 00:01, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
:I usually pronounce Kyogre as Kai-oh-great (minus the t at the end). But the anime is Kai-oh-ge... '''<sc>[[User:Optimus35|{{tt|Optimatum♏|Optimus35}}]]</sc>[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|♊]]Hi''' 13:52, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
I usually pronounce it Kai-oh-ger.
How do i participate in Project Pokédex.
Where exactly is the evolution box on the page. {{unsigned|Pikawitchu}}

Woot Glih-score Gly-score debates =D and i don't trust the anime 100% of the time, i still think it's swee - kune, not soo-wee-soon let's not for get that english dubs aren't always right (i.e. Krillin vs. Kuririn, or Tien vs. Tenshinhan.) {{unsigned|Broloth}}

== R/S sprites ==

I know you guys aren't done uploading them, but are we gonna do the R/S sprites? Even though we have the Emerald ones... the R/S ones are half distracting. I dunno, just wondering.. [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 19:06, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
:All sprites means ''all'' of 'em. The only problem I see us running into is the shiny Emerald sprites. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 19:19, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

== Shadow ==

So um... where should we put info on the Shadow Pokémon? Probably under Game info, or Game locations.. [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 21:54, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
:That'd be a good idea, as a subsection of that. Like...

:Probaly under Game Info..... [[Image:Ani234MS.gif]][[User:Theryguy512|MERRY]] [[Image:Ani385MS.gif]] [[User talk:Theryguy512|CHRISTMAS]][[Image:Ani225MS.gif]] 23:55, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

===Shadow (name)===
In (Colo/XD) a [[Shadow Pokémon|Shadow]] (name) can be found in (location), trained by (trainer). Its moves are (moves) and, when purified, it learns (moves).

'''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 22:03, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
:We already have this information. The location table notes which Pokémon are shadow and the moves are noted under the moveset heading. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 23:45, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

== Size and Weight ==

Hello, I'd like to discuss about the weight and size of Pokémon we display in the pokédex pages, I think they should be there, but they are not. (if they are and I don't see it, please notice me :-])
what do you think?
[[User:MewUser|MewUser]] 11:32, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
:That information is in the infobox of every article... --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 12:58, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

== Joining ==

I, Darth Cookie Monster, is humbly asking to join this project[[User:Darth Cookie Monster]] 18:49, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
:You don't have to ask. Just add your name to the list of participants. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 20:41, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

== Held items ==

The items Pokémon sometimes hold in the wild. I'm not sure how to implement the information yet but we are currently missing it. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 14:54, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

I was thinking about this - maybe add a section in the usebox with Held Item, and a percentage. [[User:Dlt4|Don]] 17:44, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

:This is a good idea, but nobody is willing to do this or couldn't find this part... [[User:Ht14|''ht'']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 21:17, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

I wouldn't mind doing this. If someone else would be able to help me, I could try it. [[User:Baynium|Baynium]] 03:27, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

== Number redirecting ==

should the national dex numbers redirect to the pokemon's data page? I can do that if needed. '''[[:User:Origamiguy|折り紙ガイ]] - [[:User_talk:Origamiguy|離す]][[:Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|貢献]]''' 15:09, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

== Help! ==

How do I join Project Pokédex?[[User:Medicham225|Medicham225]] 18:49, 24 May 2008 (UTC)medicham225
:Simply add your name to the list of participants. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 19:07, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
Thank you.[[User:Medicham225|Medicham225]] 23:26, 24 May 2008 (UTC)Medicham225

== Generation 4 Smogon links ==

The links for generation 4 'mon are still not working correctly. Zhen Lin implied that it would be possible to make the link as a function of the name of the article. [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Zhen_Lin&diff=prev&oldid=270480#BulbaBot_request] --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 05:11, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

== About the sprites and trivia ==

Can we, you know, STOP FREAKING MENTIONING THEM THERE? They're all charted up, GO FIND THEM AND UPLOAD THEM instead of putting it in the trivia.

Also, next time anyone mentions something as obvious as "the Gen II backsprites and Gen III backsprites for Gen I and II Pokémon are similar" is going to be yelled at. You know why? BECAUSE THEY ALL ARE, just COLORIZED. Game Freak was lazy. Heck, they would've reused the Gen I ones if they weren't total crap. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:09, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

== Why (Pokémon) rather than (species)? ==

I mean, Ash's Butterfree is also a Pokémon. --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 04:54, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

: Your point? --[[User:Force Fire|Force]] [[User talk:Force Fire|Fire]] 07:04, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

::Obviously that it's not correct and should be changed. --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 03:36, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
:::[[Species]] is something very different. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 03:55, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
:::: Pokémon is the creature, Species is the Pokémon's Classification. Bulbasaur is a Pokémon and "Seed Pokémon" uis a type of species. --[[User:Force Fire|Force]] [[User talk:Force Fire|Fire]] 05:56, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

:::Forgot about this.
:::'''Bulbasaur (species)''' is unambiguous in meaning even to those who aren't used to Bulbapedia. '''Bulbasaur (species)''' can only logically refer to one thing, while '''the Pokémon Bulbasaur''' can refer to either a particular Pokémon character or the [[Pokémon species]] Bulbasaur. --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 08:16, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

::::Sorry for digging up old conversations, but I wonder if we need "(Pokémon)" at all. We don't use "Professor Oak (person)" or "Potion (item)", even though these titles would otherwise be ambiguous. "Professor Oak" could, for instance, refer to the card. In these cases, it's clear that the character of Professor Oak is a "base" from which the cards are inspired--the title's enough for us to know what the article's talking about.
::::It's a little harder with Pokémon because there's only one "Professor Oak" and many "Butterfree". How do we know the article discusses the species and not any individual members? But I don't see how "(Pokémon)" clears that up. As Raijinili said, Ash's Butterfree is still a Pokémon. Maybe "(species)" is a bit better, since Ash's Butterfree is definitely not a species, but in the games "species" means the title in the Pokédex, like "Seed" or "Tiny Bird", so we'd be introducing more confusion.
::::I suggest removing it entirely. The plain title "[[Butterfree]]" does no worse at distinguishing the species from its members than "[[Butterfree (Pokémon)]]" and it looks much better. The only way in which it's inferior is you don't know if it's about the species or the cards. But if that distinction matters so much, we need to overhaul many other article titles: "Professor Oak (person)", "Potion (item)", or even "Misty's Starmie (Pokémon)". What an eyesore that would be. --[[User:MaskedFalcon|MaskedFalcon]] 16:03, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::The reason behind the name is to prevent people from searching "Pikachu" looking for Ash's Pikachu or any of the other 50,000 Pikachu that have appeared in the games, anime, manga, TCG, and other series. We don't have them at "Professor Oak (person)" or similar titles because there is only one Professor Oak, even if he just so happens to be a person. There are several Jimmys, so we do the same thing with them: the article [[Jimmy]] is a disambiguation, with the real content titled appropriately. Does that clear things up? —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 06:01, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
::::::I understand the reason but it's flawed. First, the "(Pokémon)" ending doesn't do it's job. That's the main problem. Somebody unfamiliar with Bulbapedia conventions would be unable to tell if "Pikachu (Pokémon)" referred to Ash's Pikachu or the species. The advantage "Pikachu (species)" has is that it actually ''does'' the disambiguation. You know it can refer to nothing but the group of all Pikachu, and not just Ash's.
::::::Second, if we want to ease searches, we equally need to help those who type "Professor Oak" looking for "Professor Oak (Base Set 88)"--in fact, I did just that yesterday when looking up some TCG articles. I had to scroll to the bottom of the article to find what I was looking for. Here's a case where the title's ambiguity really was a problem. One way to fix it ''would'' be to turn the Professor Oak page into a disambiguation linking to both his person and his cards. And maybe it's the best thing to do, though ugly and absurd. It's more consistent than the rules we currently have, though. --[[User:MaskedFalcon|MaskedFalcon]] 17:03, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

== Admission ==

Am I allowed to join? [[User:Mr.Lucario|Mr.Lucario]] 11:13, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
:Everyone is. [[User:MathijsP|MathijsP]] 15:42, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

== Legendary Pokemon ==

I, BlazeFireKitty, spend a lot of time researching legendary Pokemon, and I'll add every single thing that I can get about them to their pages. The pages should really become very informative soon. I've noticed that a few are missing info under behavior and such, because the page is so focused on their game stats. {{unsigned|BlazeFireKitty}}

i have a friend who has apparently caught Jirachi within Emerald without trading or cheating. I know other users probably know how to do this, but we need to tell how on the page for Jirachi. if nobody else can figure it out, i'll find out how she did it and post it. --[[User:Hac0013|Hac0013]] 00:05, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

== Sprites ==

I have been uploading sprites to bulbagarden archives (normal and shiny sprites of first 110 pokemon from crystal), but I hardly seem to be making a dent. is there a list of missing sprites?--[[User:Cadellin|Cadellin]] 18:21, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
:Not really, you just have to look at the seperate species pages. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 18:26, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
::As someone who has also been uploading a lot of sprites, here is the current situation as I have seen it:
*All the Gen I sprites are uploaded.
*All the GS front sprites are uploaded.
*We are missing a lot of Crystal sprites, though you seem to be handling that one.
*Generation III has the most gaps. We are missing most of the front sprites for RS and FRLG.
*We do have all the normal Emerald front sprites but not the shiny sprites.
*We have back sprites for Generation II and III but not shiny back sprites.
*As of last week, we have a complete collection of front and back DP sprites.
*We obviously don't have Platinum sprites yet.
::So the main areas to focus on are: Crystal front sprites, Gen II/III shiny back sprites and Generation III front sprites. There's still a long way to go but a lot has already been done. I'll look into getting Gen III into a better shape when I finish inserting the MD2 locations. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 19:01, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
:::We're also missing a lot of {{p|Castform}} and {{p|Unown}} sprites.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 18:39, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
:::For example, we have normal and shiny front and back ''A'' 's for Gold and Silver, normal and shiny ''U'''s for Crystal, a series of wrongly-named Gen III ones as well as a single correct ''Y'' in Ruby/Sapphire then Gen IV is all ''A'' 's. For Castform, we have all the Gen III front and back sprites except for the shiny ones. We also have the Emerald Normal form. In Gen IV, we have all the Normal/shiny ones but no alternate form ones.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 03:23, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
::::I think TTE is still working on the sprite table for Pokémon with multiple forms and consensus before then was that we don't need 28 seperate sprite tables. All we're missing on the standard table is the Gen III sprites and, as I said above, that's a general issue. We do have more sprites on the Archives, though. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 21:02, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::Actually, I made some templates for Castform and TTE already implemented them. I also made some for Unown that he protected. So we're just waiting for more sprites (and for him to be a little less lazy) to implement them. We discussed it on his last Archive. Also, you said above that we had all the Gen II front sprites but we don't (Unown) that's the main concern here.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 02:38, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
::::::By the way, the template I made for Unown was like Arceus's and therefore didn't show them all at once. Also, we'd need the side games ones. After reading the article, I know that they all look different in Trozei but I don't know if the little Mystery Dungeon 2 pictures we use look any different. Also, did Sugimori do any ar for the other forms except for ''F''? What about the side game sprites of other multi-formed Pokémon like Castform, Burmy, Wormadam, etc. By which I mean to say, are the Trozei, Pinball Ruby and Sapphire or Mystery Dungeon 2 sprites different for any of those?--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 02:53, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

== I've never talked on the discussion board before, but... ==

I think that I can help a little bit with the movesets. I have a R/S strategy guide that has all the learnsets of the Hoenn Dex in order, and I went through the list of Gen III movesets that we've got already on here. I went through the 200 Pokémon in the guide and found the few that were missing (from the Hoenn Dex, at least.). Since I have almost zero experience doing this kind of thing, I don't want to mess anything up, so here's a short list (Again, just from the Hoenn Dex.):

Marill
Azumarill
Geodude
Graveler
Golem
Zubat
Golbat
Crobat
Tentacool
Tentacruel
Oddish
Gloom
Vileplume
Bellossom
Ninetales
Pichu
Raichu
Golduck
Rhyhorn
Rhydon

All of these Pokémon are, as I said, missing Gen III movesets. I don't know if you've covered this or not, but there you are. Sorry if I'm wasting any time. [[User:Spatula|Spatula]] 03:09, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

== Another sprite suggestion, ==

For ease of use, we have the numbered images with nothing else on them represent the current generation, which is a good idea. Therefore I suggest (and I will do all the work) that we have a 'current generation' template as we do for the others. What do you guys think? Whenever we get a new generation, we can simply use the reupload feature, and slightly edit the template and it will sweep across all the images. [[User:DanPMK|MK]] 18:32, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

== A Question I feel is important about Learnsets ==

I see that, for whatever reason, you have omitted previous generations learnsets. Naturally, this is understandable for Gen I and II, and the most recent Gen IV is relevent to most users. However, under move tutors, you have kept the tutors for FR, LG, Emerald and XD alongside DP and Platinum.

I don't think this is wrong, as I believe this is relevent - since the moves are available in the fourth generation, the third gen stuff should stay. However, for things like level up moves, and (maybe) breeding and TM/HM perhaps the information should be included? Or perhaps only the information that has changed, after all a lot of level up information stays the same from generation to generation...

Probably something discussed in the two archives already catalogued that I haven't looked though, but just something that perhaps could be clarified before it is complete, and then everyone realises that they want it a different way. {{unsigned|Aburnett}}
:Um. There's links to the old generation stuff. They're on subpages. Read the learnset headings. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:24, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
::Can those links be bolded? The Gen1 link is only a few pixels wide. --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 04:48, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

== Headers ==

Can someone please fix the headers? Like make the headers that have one equal sign at the beginning and end have two, and so on. <big>[[user:chocolate|Cho]][[user talk:chocolate|col]][[special:contributions/chocolate|ate]]</big> 01:13, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
:Never mind, I did it myself. [[user:chocolate|Cho]][[user talk:chocolate|col]][[special:contributions/chocolate|ate]] 21:06, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

== An idea ==

How about, on the pages of Pokémon, instead of having "origin" and "name origin" as sub-headers of "trivia", how about we do it like this?

<pre>
==Trivia==
(Insert trivia here)
==Origin==
(Insert origin here)
===Name origin===
(Insert name origin here)
</pre>

Currently, we do it like this:

<pre>
==Trivia==
(Insert trivia here)
===Origin===
(Insert origin here)
====Name origin====
(Insert name origin here)
</pre>

I think my version is better, and here's why: The origin usually will have nothing to do with the trivia, and even if it does, the trivial part of the a Pokémon's origin can simply be put in the trivia section. Discuss. [[user:chocolate|Cho]][[user talk:chocolate|col]][[special:contributions/chocolate|ate]] 21:17, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
:The origin is trivia. It doesn't affect gameplay. --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 09:10, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
::How is it trivia? [[user:chocolate|Cho]][[user talk:chocolate|col]][[special:contributions/chocolate|ate]] 19:13, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
:::''Trivia'' usually means information which can be quite accurate but has few real uses and is relatively unimportant. In this case the design and name origins are just for the sake of the information itself, you probably don't need that for anything else. UltimateSephiroth ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|user]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|contrib]]) 19:21, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
::::But a lot of people will want to know the origin and name origin. So they are important. [[user:chocolate|Cho]][[user talk:chocolate|col]][[special:contributions/chocolate|ate]] 19:24, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
:::::"People would want to know" and "affects the key aspects of the medium" (anime:canon, game:gameplay) are completely different things. Besides, the first is a highly subjective criterium which is probably a good argument for inclusion on the page, while the second is a relatively solid criterium for where that info would be placed.
:::::For example, it's interesting to know that Ghost attacks, despite the Sabrina episodes, were not supereffective against Psychics in generation 1, and a lot of people who played the games ''and'' watched the anime would be curious about whether or not the game followed the anime in that respect, but it simply doesn't matter to the main aspect of the anime, which is the plot. --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 23:12, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
:::::A lot of people will want to know other various items under Trivia as well, but they don't deserve to be noted under their own high-level headings either. — [[User:Laoris|Laoris]] ([[User_Talk:Laoris|Blah]]) 22:33, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

== GenI/II menusprites ==

If I remember correctly, the menusprites in the first and second generations sort of divided all the Pokémon into categories kind of like the way the "Body Shape" thing works in the fourth generation Pokédex. Since you guys have already sorted them that way, maybe (if any of you guys ever have spare time and are bored or whatever) you guys could maybe classify the GenI andII Pokémon that way.--[[User:MisterE13|MisterE13]] 03:20, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
:If you can do it accurately, then collect the information. --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 23:16, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
::I could try to get them for the ones I caught in Red/Blue but I can't get the sprites. How would we classify them anyways? They're like body styles but for older generations.--[[User:MisterE13|MisterE13]] 15:58, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

== "In the TCG" and "TCG-only moves" ==

I have an idea. "TCG-only moves" is currently a sub-section of "Learnset", which is a sub-section of "Game data". However, the TCG isn't one of the technology-based games. Based on that, I think the section "TCG-only moves" should instead be a sub-section of the section "In the TCG". Who agrees with me? [[User:Chocolate|Chocolate]][[User talk:Chocolate|((Talk to Me]][[Special:Contributions/Chocolate||Look at My Contributions))]] 00:35, 9 December 2008 (UTC) 
Bump. [[Santa Claus|♥]][[User:Chocolate|Chocolate]] ([[wp:Christmas|Merry Christmas!]]) 01:14 12/11/2008
:Well, since we have said to wait on the list of TCG moves, this shouldn't be an issue, because no page should currently have them yet. But, there is this thing called the [[Pokémon Trading Card Game|Pokémon Trading card '''''game''''']] that these moves appear in. They should go with the other lists of moves because it fits better with that info. HOWEVER, no one should be doing anything with this mini-project until the jname mini-project is done, so this doesn't matter yet. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 01:31, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
::The pages have had TCG-only moves for ages. You can't retroactively decide an article can't have valid content until you're ready with an unrelated page.
::And no, TCG and the video games are different things under the usual definition. Movesets should stay together, though, so both this and the anime-only moves should stay where they are. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 20:56, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

== Anime Pokédex Entries ==

Would anyone here object if I placed Pokédex entries from the anime onto the Pokémon pages themselves. Someone claimed there was already a page for that but I am unable to find it. Therefore, would it be ok for me to do the entries? {{u|WatcherMark}}
:We already have a page of them, but it is incomplete. We are waiting for when we get all the entries in order to put them on the pages. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 19:57, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
::Can someone please send me the link for this page. I would like to contribute to it where I can. Thanks [[User:Watchermark|Watchermark]] 10:26, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
:::I am getting tired of people removing those entries. They benefit the article so leave them alone. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 17:54, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
::::[[User:Theryguy512/Anime Dex Project|Here]] ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 18:52, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

== Uploading Sprites ==

I've begun uploading some of the missing sprites (kecleon shiny gen. III front & back, eevee gen. III shiny back, so far), and I've put in the filenames listed on the pages, but they don't actually appear on the pages. If you click the link it goes to the picture.. Could someone help me out with this? --[[User:Snowrunt|Snowrunt]]
:It's just the server being slow. All you can do is wait and the page will update by itself. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 20:53, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
::Oh, that's it. I'm sorry about that! Thanks. ^^ --[[User:Snowrunt|Snowrunt]]

== Battle Frontier Movesets ==

Don't know if this is the right place to bring this up, but I couldn't think of a better place. Basically, I've noticed that in the Battle Frontier each Pokemon species (other than wilds and those owned by Brains) seems to have a specific moveset.
For example, every Clamperl has Toxic, Dive, Iron Defense and Double Team. I was just wondering if it'd be worth attempting to note down each Pokemon's Battle Frontier movesets on their individual pages, it might be a useful piece of information. [[User:Gastlys mama|Gastlys mama]] 12:55, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
:They are the only moves that [[Clamperl (Pokémon)#By leveling up|Clamperl]] can learn from leveling up and even then, they start with those particular moves. Also that is something that would be added to the battle frontier pages if it were the case that it was specific to the battle frontier, which it is not. —[[User:Lord mada|Mada-sama]] ([[User talk:Lord mada|Talk to me!]])— 00:04, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
:: Clamperl cannot learn Toxic, Dive or Double Team by levelling up. Every trained Pokemon of any given species other than those of Brains definitely has the same moves always, I'm playing through the Battle Frontier at the moment, so with time I could give more examples. I just thought it might be better suited on each Pokemon's page as a list of over 400 Pokemon and their movesets on the Battle Frontier page (as it just has one page) might be a bit excessive. [[User:Gastlys mama|Gastlys mama]] 18:53, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
:::Sorry I didn't read thought you post clearly. Also, which battle frontier are you talking about? —[[User:Lord mada|Mada-sama]] ([[User talk:Lord mada|Talk to me!]])— 19:20, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
:::: Hoenn one, I don't know anything about the Sinnoh one. [[User:Gastlys mama|Gastlys mama]] 19:31, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::You might be on to something but it seems like a waste of time to me. —[[User:Lord mada|Mada-sama]] ([[User talk:Lord mada|Talk to me!]])— 19:52, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
So does that mean I should start on this or do I need permission from some kind of admin? [[User:Gastlys mama|Gastlys mama]] 20:24, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
::::::Here's my rule off thumb. Do it, if an admin undoes it don't do it again —[[User:Lord mada|Mada-sama]] ([[User talk:Lord mada|Talk to me!]])— 01:40, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
The problem is, this is something I have noticed personally and it's kind of a big change to do this to every page, so I'd like the action to be confirmed by an admin BEFORE I go crazy editing 350 (or so) pages =P [[User:Gastlys mama|Gastlys mama]] 18:41, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

== See Also ==

How about adding a 'See Aslo' tittle to the bottom of every Pokémon's page and in that tittle you can put the evolutions of that Pokémon, it obviously doesn't need to be added to a Pokémon's page if the Pokémon only has one evolution. So what does everyone think?--'''[[User:MysteryHeff?|MysteryHeff?]]''' [[User Talk:MysteryHeff?|TALK]] 07:33, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
:But each Pokémon's evolutions are already shown in the Evolution subsection on each page. — [[User:Laoris|Laoris]] ([[User_Talk:Laoris|Blah]]) 08:07, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Oh ok, sorry I didn't realize.--'''[[User:MysteryHeff?|MysteryHeff?]]''' [[User Talk:MysteryHeff?|TALK]] 08:11, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

== Can I join? ==

Hey, can I join the project? I figure that I edit quite a few Pokémon pages... and It would be better If I'd join. The page says to ask (or something like that) on the talk page... so here... Can I join?--[[User:Dragonbeastx/The Aura Spot|THE "X" MEANS "PEACE" TO]][[User:Dragonbeastx|THE DRAGONS AND]][[User talk:Dragonbeastx|THE BEASTS...]] 19:47, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
:Does this {{tt|"silence"|Can't you just hear that echo?}} mean I can join?--[[User:Dragonbeastx/The Aura Spot|X, PEACE TO]][[User:Dragonbeastx|THE DRAGONS AND]][[User talk:Dragonbeastx|THE BEASTS]] 04:40, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
::We should change that. Anyone is allowed to join, as long as you follow the requirements set by the Project Leader (if any are on the page) and sign your name on the list. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 04:45, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
:::Ehh, it says "To join the project, simply add your name to the bottom of this list", so that means you're free to join, you don't need permission anymore. Maybe you read "If you would like to help, please inquire on the talk page or the Bulbapedia forum and see the Bulbapedia:Project Pokédex/To-do list." lol. '''►[[User:Kevzo8|Ҝə]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|υz]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|ø8]]''' 04:46, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
::::With that out of the way, hello, {{tt|new project|My 3rd project... wow!}}!--[[User:Dragonbeastx/The Aura Spot|X, PEACE TO]][[User:Dragonbeastx|THE DRAGONS AND]][[User talk:Dragonbeastx|THE BEASTS]] 20:18, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

== Background... ==

Is it ok if all the Pokémon pages have backgrounds? For instance, for Chinchou, we can use this:
<nowiki>
{| width="100%" style="background: #{{electric color}}; -moz-border-radius: 1em; border: 5px solid #{{electric color}}; margin-bottom: 0.5em; margin-left: 1em;"
|-
| text align="left" style="background: #{{water color light}};" | __NOTOC__</nowiki> 
Credit goes to MAGNEDETH. [[User:Ht14|''ht'']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 22:38, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

== Can i join? ==

Can i join the Project Pokédex?[[User:Gio12|Gio12]] 01:23, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
:You don't have to ask. Just add your name to the list. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 01:26, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

I know...I just follow the instructions[[User:Gio12|Gio12]] 05:08, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
::I added my name to the list, but I had a problem. I can't edit the pages! How does that happen? I have just joined, but I've confirmed my email... what else do I have to do? [[User:JetanHertz13|JetanHertz13]] 00:00, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
:::All Pokemon pages are currently on lockdown. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 00:24, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

== Formes ==

Over the past while, I've been doing quite a bit of work about Pokémon's different Formes/forms. I was wondering if this project would like me to coordinate part of project Pokédex to organize the inclusion of alternate forms on the wiki? Or would it be better that I make a subproject (as in Project FormeDex)? Or, perhaps, I should just keep control of it on my own?--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 00:32, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
:I'm not really sure how much organization it needs... A separate project or subproject, in my view at least, isn't required. A section of this Project may be justified. How much more work needs to be done regarding alternate formes? Can you list your ideas here and we'll run through them. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 02:31, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
::Currently, I've somewhat made sure that all the work has been done. However, I was proposing this in order to organize policies for {{tt|future forms|which, at the rate GameFreak's going, there will be a lot of soon}}. {{tt|I|or we}} could hammer out said policies somewhere and, like you said, include it in a section here.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 21:20, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
:::Yes, and you've done a good job so far. I don't think much more needs to be done, other than making sure that Castform is sorted out. In the event that HGSS introduces new forms (which it better not, other than Shellos/Gastrodon if they can be caught there), we can deal with that when it comes. I think this issue is best dealt with informally. Without wanting to sound elitist, we don't need every new user trying to help out with this because a decent amount of coding knowledge is required. If you really want to write it down{{tt|,|which may be useful in the event that TTE, you, and I all die in some freak accident the day before Gen V comes out}} put it in a sub. "User:MisterE13/Guidelines for alternate formes" or something like that. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 05:25, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

== HI! ==

Hi, can I join this project? I though it would be a bit inpolite just to add my name to the article and put the Project Pokédex tag on my user page without asking first. I know lots about the different Pokémon species and could help to improve the articles a lot. So, what do you think? [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 12:13, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
:Anyone can join the project. It's not impolite, it's greatly appreciated when one insert their name, specially when they do well. '''[[User:Kevzo8|Kev]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|zo8]]''' 12:18, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
::Oh, all right then. Thanks! [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 21:39, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
:::No one has to ask to join this project, or any project. Just sign up! — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 01:47, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

== Global PokedeX Plus ==

I think we should have a section in the articles about Global PokedeX Plus (gpxplus.net) that tell like, what their eggs look like, how much interactions they need to hatch/level up...stuff like that. [[User:Puppo530|Puppo530]] 01:26, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
:It appears to be a fansite.... From your description (different eggs) it seems to be fanon, but it won't let me register so I can't verify this. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 01:47, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

::it is indeed fanon, they do even include "fakemon" and recolours (Easter Buneary)
::while they frown upon "eggdexii" I would not be adverse to help acquire egg images, egg descriptions, and interaction/level up stats.
::Interestingly, their game mechanics allow for male species+female species breeding = male species/female species egg as well as female/male+ungendered=egg of either, so you can breed a Castform of either gender with Rotom and get both Castform and Rotom eggs. ~ZaphodBeeblebrox 15:35, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

== Trainer pokémon ==

Shouldn't there be a section that says if any trainers own the pokémon, and if so, who and where they are? It would make filling the Sinnoh 'dex much easier. --[[User:Thermorules123|Thermorules123]] 10:43, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
:There's a table [[Hiker|some trainer classes]], look there.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Ho-Oh (Pokémon)|orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Lugia (Pokémon)|ire]] 10:49, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
::Yes, but I think a list of trainers should be on the Pokémon's page --[[User:Thermorules123|Thermorules123]] 14:25, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
:::That'd get a bit ridiculous...for instance, look at {{p|Mew}}'s page. Big page, and though there are no trainers that have Mew in their [[party]], {{p|Pikachu}} is another primary example. Look at that page. Adding more would make life more or less the same, if not more confusing... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 02:38, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

== Pokémon Channel + ==

On the Eggzmination channel in Pokémon Channel, there are facts that go across the top of the screen. There are facts about *presumably* every Pokémon. This would take a while to chronicle, but what if we could put those facts into the side-game data table under Pokémon Channel? If not, I suppose it would work just put them under a respective category..
But I think it would be good to add a Pokémon Channel section to the side game data. In case you haven't played, there are Pokémon wandering about, and you can get trading cards from them, but only if you answer a trivia fact about the Pokémon being questioned. We could put the question and answer in the side game data, as well as the Pokémon description on the trading card (I can't exactly recall if there is one though)? Just wanted to mention this.

Also, I checked out the structure for this project. For the "In the manga" section, the structure says to put Pokémon Special first, then Electric Tale of Pikachu, them Pipipi and Chamo Pretty then others, but very few articles are actually organized like this, including the model articles. Should they be changed to go in that order? And should each manga get it's own subtitle, like Pokémon Special does?

Last thing I promise! In the "In the anime" section for some articles, the subtitles are Major appearances and Minor appearances. Are they all going to be put in this format eventually?
Sorry for writing so much.. I'm full of questions. --[[User:Snowrunt|'''ℓaℓa''']] [[Special:Contributions/Snowrunt|ℓe]] [[User talk:Snowrunt|'''snoωrunt''']] 00:02, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

:It's been a while, so I'm gonna bump this.. --[[User:Snowrunt|'''ℓaℓa''']] [[Special:Contributions/Snowrunt|ℓe]] [[User talk:Snowrunt|'''snoωrunt''']] 17:00, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

== Pokémon pictures ==

This is just a suggestion... do you think it would be better not to use the Emerald and Platinum artwork on the Hoenn and Sinnoh starters' pages? I've noticed that on the official online Pokédexes, as well as recent official books, their RS and DP artwork is still used, and appears to be their "standard" artwork. I know they are the more recent, but Ken Sugimori's Emerald and Platinum illustrations are simply promotional art for those games, and are not considered "standard" by Nintendo. What I'm trying to say is, if Bulbapedia were an official Pokémon site overseen by Nintendo, the Emerald and Platinum artwork wouldn't be used in the main articles, they would use the RS and DP art instead. Does anyone agree with me? Sorry if I made this sound confusing, I didn't really know how else to put it! [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 15:27, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

== Am I the only one to notice this? ==

In Platinum, '''MANY''' Pokemon received new backsprites. How come they haven't been added yet? Examples are Gengar, Gligar, Suicune, Entei, Raikou, Mantyke, Porygon2, the list goes on... --Chaos Rush 00:41:30 (UTC)
:Most of the new backsprites have been uploaded to the archives, but the sprite table doesn't currently support multiple backsprites. I can't find it just at the moment, but I remember seeing this discussed somewhere recently. I believe that conversation concluded that a new sprite template should be developed, but it isn't the kind of thing that will happen overnight. There are other templates which need updating as well. There is also a similar problem with the R/S/E and FR/LG sprites. Any Pokémon which have received an updated front sprite between games of the same generation will probably have a new back sprite as well. Just look for them on the archives for the moment. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 01:11, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
::We could potentially use a system such as the one I implemented [[Player character|here]] (with backsprites underneath). If we do decide to do it, putting them into the template shouldn't be too hard (though changing all the names could be).--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 02:34, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
::: Well, IMO, you guys should do whatever works out best, as long as it shows all the sprites. If I recall correctly, some Pokemon in even Crystal version got new backsprites as well. Also I'd like to mention that the front sprites on the Natu, Xatu, and Mareep pages for Platinum are incorrect. Again, nobody seems to have noticed this, but Natu, Xatu, and Mareep had a different color palette in Platinum, but their pages simply show their D/P colors, which are false. --Chaos Rush 04:30:02 (UTC)
::::While I can't comment about Crystal, the reason the DP sprites are shown is because of the automated table setup. If the Pt sprite has not been uploaded, the DP sprite will show. If we haven't got it, of course we can't show it. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 05:23, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

== Hope this is okay...? ==

Uh, hi! I'm new and I just went ahead and added myself to the project, I'm assuming that's all right.

So I'm going through and putting English translations of the HGSS Pokedex entries, for the Pokemon that I either have in the dex on my own HG game, or the Pokemon that have Japanese entries on their pages. I hope that's okay. It seems that the gen1 Pokemon have the same entries as in Gold (for HG) and the gen2 Pokemon have the entries from LG in HG, and FR in SS. I'm only putting the ones that I've actually seen the Japanese entries for though, because I can't be 100% sure about the others.

If that's totally not okay, feel free to just go ahead and revert my edits. :) --19:23, 16 September 2009 (UTC)[[User:Umeko|Umeko]]
:Thank you. We did this for Platinum, so I see no problem with it. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:46, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
::So for the past few weeks I've just been submitting the HeartGold dex entries as I obtained them on my own HG game (and was thus able to 100% confirm that they were the same as the Gold entries). A Japanese friend playing SoulSilver just tweeted that the SS entries are are all the same as Silver... Should we go through and add those too? [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 15:21, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
:::Aaaaaand according to this friend, the HGSS dex entries for the third and fourth gen Pokemon are new... once I get those entries, would you like me to translate them (temporary, until the NA version is released)? I'd totally be willing to. I won't if that's against policy though. :P [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 15:57, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
::::As long as they are replaced when the game is released in English-speaking territories, having translations of the Japanese entries is very helpful. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 20:10, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
:::::Awesome, that'll be fun! I'll start on that with the few HGSS entries from the Japanese wiki... But is there some sort of template I should use to distinguish the entries as unofficially-translated and slated to be replaced next spring? I'm still getting used to wiki, so... [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 23:19, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
:::::I went through the Japanese wiki and have translated the HGSS entries that were available for the 3rd and 4th-gen Pokemon - {{p|Seedot}}, {{p|Shroomish}}, {{p|Latios}}, {{p|Turtwig}}, {{p|Chimchar}}, {{p|Piplup}}, {{p|Starly}}, {{p|Staravia}}, {{p|Staraptor}}, {{p|Giratina}}, and {{p|Arceus}}. I'll work on editing them into the appropriate pages now, using the <nowiki>{{tt}}</nowiki> template because I'm... not sure how they should be put in there. This seemed like the best option to me, but if something else is preferred, feel free to change them (there aren't that many yet, after all, only like ten).

:::::Also the Japanese wiki had on some of the pages that the given entry was only for one version of the games, and on some of the pages that the entry was for both HG and SS. This will be reflected in the edits I make, because I have no idea and have to just take the Japanese wiki's word for it. ¯\(º_o)/¯

:::::So... yes. Tell me what you think/if I've screwed up majorly and fail at life! [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 01:14, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

:I guess I'll help out on this front as well. I have SoulSilver so I can fill in with the Japanese. My translation skills are near non-existent (It's getting better. ._<;), so I can just provide the raw Japanese. I can try my best to translate, but I'll only do it for those that I'm completely sure on. So yeah, if you don't mind translating them, I can put in any of the the raw Japanese pokedex entries I have for SoulSilver. :3 --NyaChan 01:49, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

== Regarding the HGSS gen3/4 Entries ==

Figured I'd toss the raw Japanese in for the pokemon I have (anyone who can translate, go ahead), and spotted a few Gen3 Pokémon have the same dex entry for HG and SS. Dunno if that's the case for them all, but it's looking to be true. Can't prove all of them just yet, but I'd be willing to bet they're all identical between versions. So yeah, if there's a dex entry for one, it's likely it's the same for the other version too. Just thought I'd point it out. Also, if anyone can translate the dex entries, please do, my Japanese isn't really good enough to figure it all out yet. ^^;;> --NyaChan 04:16, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
:Going through and translating what you have now. :D I did notice that some of them had identical entries for both versions, but since I'm only playing HG at the moment I can't prove first-hand that it's the same throughout. Probably is, but best to go with what is known 100%. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 04:19, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

== Super Smash Bros. Brawl events ==

Should information about the events that a playable Pokémon character is in be included? Such as "The player plays as {{p|Lucario}} in "The Aura is With Me" if the player plays as that Pokémon or "The player plays against a {{pkmn2|giant}} {{p|Charizard}} in {{tt|X event|I don't remember which it is}}. If this should be put, should the {{tt|other characters that are in that event|which will say in Charizard's case: The player plays as R.O.B against a giant Charizard along with a giant Bowser and a giant Donkey Kong}} be included as well? [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 13:03, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
:Also, if {{tt|this|the above statement}} is okay, should different articles be created for the playable characters of the Pokémon series (with the exception of the Pokémon trainer)? [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 15:25, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
::Anybody? [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 00:06, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
:::Anybody? [[User:Turtwig A|Turtwig's]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A-B-Cs]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 15:23, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
::::Apparently Project Pokédex has no leader. Huh. Anyways, I would say yes to the above statement but no for the different articles creation. Try to keep it Pokémon related so if there are other characters present, talk about only the one's related to Pokémon. Hopefully someone else can chime in on this, 8 months is a bit long D: —♥ [[User:Jello|Jello]][[User Talk:Jello|talk]] 15:35, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

==Somebody do something!==
I was poking around and on some of the Generation 1 Pokémon (Don't know if it's just them)and on the list that shows which move it learns at what level, some of them are missing the link to the Gen. 1 list. If you click on Gen. 2 you can find it there, so the page exists, but it's not linked. I don't know how those templates work, so could someone look through and fix them? (or tell me how to do it, I like being helpful =D) Thanks! [[User:PichuMaster|PichuMaster]] 15:36, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

== Joining,! ==

Guys, I Had been reading this Bulbapedia from june 2009. I Still Havent Read All Articles so i joined this wiki a week ago to help here. my information might be late as i live in india...(ASIA) {{unsigned|Ash's Infernape}}

== Male and female sprites ==
Hi there, I have a suggestion! ^^ With some Pokémon, the male and female sprites differ and both of them are shown in the table of sprites. However, wouldn't it make a little more sense to actually label which one is which? I originally thought there was a mistake on one of the pages because the male/female sprites looked so similar I thought they'd been uploaded twice. It would make it easier for n00bs like me to tell the difference XD [[User:Moltres93|Moltres93]] 10:09, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
:The male one is on the top, the female one is on the bottom. We are looking at upgrading that template, so we'll look at addressing the issue more permanently then. Cheers. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 10:15, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

== MOVING SPRITES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! O_o OMGz must spam Bulbzapedi@!!!1!!eleven!!!2!!! ==

Excuse the title, anyway . . . with moving sprites now in [[Pokemon Black and White]], I was wondering . . . how are we supposed to do this? In Generations 1 through 4 the sprites have always been frozen stiff (except for when they enter and make a little animation in some of the games). I was just curious . . . if there are animations for coming out of the Poke Ball which would we do, i.e. would we show their regular movement or their animation when they come out of the Poke Ball? Anyone catching my drift?
--[[User:Landfish7|Land]][[User talk:Landfish7|fish]]'''7 22:45, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
:Maybe it should start with the opening animation, then go into regular. [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 22:53, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
::Exactly, but how is that possible!! --[[User:Landfish7|Land]][[User talk:Landfish7|fish]]'''7 22:57, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
:::Get the two animations and put them into one file together. Easy. [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 22:58, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
::::Awesome! OK, I was just wondering since the release is soon! Thank you! --[[User:Landfish7|Land]][[User talk:Landfish7|fish]]'''7 23:06, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

== !!PoP!! ==

Um.{{tt|.|I needed to get this off my shoulders some how: THE NEW LEGENDARIES LOOK AWFUL!!}} can somebody change the project logo to make it pop out like most of the other project logos? It just doesn't fit with the other logos to me.. --[[User:Landfish7|Land]][[User talk:Landfish7|fish]]'''7 22:11, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

== Sound ==

Have you guys tried adding the Pokémon cries onto the infobox? That'd be pretty neat. [[User:Malake256|Malake256]] 05:00, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

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== Archives ==

*[[/Archive1|Archive 1]] (discussions from January 4 – November 26, 2008) - Old Welcome talk
*[[/Archive2|Archive 2]] (discussions from November 26 – December 4, 2008) - The vote to new Welcome

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due to an overwhelming vote of 3 - 27 - 5 - 5, Kogoro's Welcome template has been decided as the new official welcome template. and now i presume some of you will complain a bit, and by all means, go right ahead. just be aware that at least 27 people won't agree with you. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 23:09, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

:Now that this template is taken into use, I think we should think the problem arising from the fact that somebody may like to hide the box. How do we ensure that this can easily be done by that user, or are we going to force him/her to display this green splash on the top of his/her talk page? '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 23:13, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

::One could add <code>class="expandable"</code> to the table to minimize it. — [[User:Laoris|Laoris]] ([[User_Talk:Laoris|Blah]]) 23:47, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

:::That's true. However, we should make that very easy so I think the template could have some kind of instructions to do that for the new users. Or then they can just ask. '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 00:10, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

::::The only problem in that is that it makes it easy for a newbie to just click and hide it, then ignore it completely. Having it right out there constantly should definitely get them to notice it, and hopefully they will bother to check it out. - [[User:Kogoro|'''<sc>Kogoro</sc>''']] '''|''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''<sc>Talk to me</sc>''']] -

:::::exactly. besides, is it really hurting anything? -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 00:30, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

::::::Actually, it seems to be a more efficient way to display ways new users can help out. Nice style choices, as well. [[User:Bulbapedian|Bulbapedian]] - [[User talk:Bulbapedian|Talk]] 00:38, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
Resetting indentI still like the format of the old welcome better (we really don't need a big box), but this one improves the actual content so I can live with it. Congrts, Kogoro! [[User:LordArceus|'''Lord''']][[User talk:LordArceus|'''Arc''']][[Special:Contributions/LordArceus|'''eus''']] 00:40, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
:I'll congratulate Kogoro on the effort put in. Still looks all RAWR INDIMIDATING LINKS WITH NO EXPLANATION for me though. [[User:GlinnMgraw|'''Glinn]] [[User_talk:GlinnMgraw|Mgraw''']] 07:08, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
::I think that the bottommost row should be a different color. If the users siggy is a lightish color, it ends up looking like crap.--[[User:RexRacer|'''Rex]][[Quilava (Pokémon)|Racer''']] [[User talk:RexRacer|'''''-talk''''']] 21:57, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
:::then change your signature color. it shouldnt be changed because one or two users have light signatures[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]
::::Heh,your sig is too light for it too.--[[User:RexRacer|'''Rex]][[Quilava (Pokémon)|Racer''']] [[User talk:RexRacer|'''''-talk''''']] 22:07, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::I couldnt care less.[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]

(reset indent) I just added a small white background to the signature itself, so people with light or green signatures should show up normally now. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 03:43, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

== Template needs the CoC ==

Mention of Bulbaquette somewhere would be good, seeing as it's now official. Of course, this will throw everything majorly off balance... :/ — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 07:40, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
:Hey, I know. Both the guide to Bulbapedia, and CoC can go into a section above Getting Started. Something like this:

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Just prettier and more useful. --[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 08:21, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
:Clarky... I really hate to say but, that modification isn't all that pretty. The logo is way oversized now. And the bullets really look off in the header. - [[User:Kogoro|'''<sc>Kogoro</sc>''']] '''|''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''<sc>Talk to me</sc>''']] - 08:25, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
::Oooooowwwwwwwwwww, I know. I'm horrible. --[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 08:33, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
:::No, you're not...... but your template is. Put the guide under "getting started" and the CoC under "policies and guidelines". Then find something important-ish to go under the third column, to even it out. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 08:44, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
::::Like the update that has just been done perhaps? ;) - [[User:Kogoro|'''<sc>Kogoro</sc>''']] '''|''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''<sc>Talk to me</sc>''']] - 08:45, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::Yeah, maybe.... ;) — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 08:50, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
::::::Sounds like a great idea. --[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 09:25, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

== An unimportant edit request ==

Move the noinclude tag to the end of the template, to prevent huge whitespace underneath when substing the template and adding additional comments underneath. Please. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 07:03, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

== I know no one ever reads their green blob, but.... ==

Could be productive to mention the userspace thing in brief without making them click the link. No one ever clicks the links, and it is more likely that they read the blurb below. I'm thinking a sentence like "if you want to create a userpage, feel free, but don't edit too many times or you may be blocked from editing it." ... or stuff. Anyhoo..... — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 09:58, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

Could we do something like this:

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It tells them about their userpage so that 1.they know where they can express themselves so that they don't do it on other pages e.g: No "Oooh cute" on Clefairy's page. 2. I hate typing User:... and coming up with a redlink and I don't think I'm the only one.--[[User:Pokemonguy1|Pokémon lovers]] [[User talk:Pokemonguy1|Any questions]] 02:50, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
:No one has to make a userpage if they don't want to. If you're searching for someone, search for their talk page, as every un-permablocked user has a talk page. The problem is that some people edit their userpage more than anything else. Two months down the track, this really isn't a concern any more, although minimalistic editing is encouraged. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 03:13, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
::I'm amused that despite the largest implication of this welcome template lying on how the new users receive it, most of the decisions put forth into the template are put forth by more or less seasoned wiki-ers that simply cannot view the template from a newbie point of view, and yet you fail to recognize the significance of the idea (or any!) put forth by this fairly new user. [[User:Totallynotnova|Totallynotnova]] 02:46, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

== Under "signatures" ==

I think it should be noted that images are not allowed in signatures. What do you think? ''Alpha'' [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 03:48, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
:Eh, it links to the policy, and we're trying to keep it super duper simple. A big list of all the pointers was the old ineffective welcome that we got rid of. Thanks for the suggestion, though.--[[User:RexRacer|'''Rex]][[User talk:RexRacer|Racer''']] 03:52, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

== talk page comments ==

Should it be noted on here that talk page comments are not allowed to be removed? [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 15:34, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
:The template used to be a lot bigger - but we made it shorter because people don't really bother reading a huge wall of text. It has links to the welcome portal, which has links to all our policies. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 16:06, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

== List of Admins link ==

Bulbapedia:Administrators is no longer a complete list of users with powers. May I suggest a page called "Bulbapedia:List of staff members"? It'd have everybody with at least the Jr. Admin (or maybe just Admin) power, and that's what the welcome would link to... [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 23:43, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
:I want to update the entire welcome again. This will just be a quickfix. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 10:44, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

== How to round borders in other browsers ==

Hey, guys! I notice you only have the -moz-border-radius coding on there. Well, I got a secret for ya! You may want to use this on other templates/pages, too. There's other border-rounding HTML codes for various browsers. Here's a list:
*-moz-border-radius
*border-radius
*webkit-border-radius
*khtml-border-radius
Those four are the only ones I know, at the moment. I haven't found any others. I'll make it into a template like we did at WK so that you can use it to your heart's content! Anyways, use those like you would with -moz-border-radius code. Good day![[User:ZW Neo|__Neo]][[User talk:ZW Neo|(T)]][[zw:Main Page|(Home)]] 01:37, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
:Template made! See Template:round for information![[User:ZW Neo|__Neo]][[User talk:ZW Neo|(T)]][[zw:Main Page|(Home)]] 01:47, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
::Two steps ahead of you, we've had [[Template:roundy|a template]] that roundies corners in every browser (?) except IE... for a couple of months, actually. We just need to template-ize all the templates... ▫▫'''[[User:Tina|ティナ]]'''[[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|★]] 01:48, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
:::ROUNDY!!!!! '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:50, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
::::XD Oops! My bad! Well, I guess you can delete the template I made, then :P[[User:ZW Neo|__Neo]][[User talk:ZW Neo|(T)]][[zw:Main Page|(Home)]] 01:51, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::Done. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 01:55, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

== Bot ==

Has it been explained why there isn't a bot for this? [[User:Malake256|Malake256]] 17:06, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Main Page/Archive 10

2010-07-28T18:27:56Z

Malake256: /* New Month? New Message from the Editor? */

This is the [[Bulbapedia:Talk page|talk page]] for the Bulbapedia's front page. If you have a general comment about the wiki, please consider placing it in [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/forumdisplay.php?f=195 our forum].'''

== Previous discussions ==

* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 1|Archive 1]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 2|Archive 2]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 3|Archive 3]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 4|Archive 4]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 5|Archive 5]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 6|Archive 6]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 7|Archive 7]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 8|Archive 8]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 9|Archive 9]]

== Route exploration requirements ==

As a continuation from the archived discussion, I'm going to incorporate the "Requirements to fully explore this area" as part of the route description on each article, instead of it having its own section. [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 12:01, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
:brilliant idea. [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch]] 12:05, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
::No, please do not. Most administers agreed against the case. If you want to write up a "Geography" or "Route description" section including HM/TM requirement, please do. But do not create a section for it.--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 14:04, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

== Image of nothing? ==

I've noticed there's an image called File:None.png. It's just a blank white image, and in the summary it says, "Image of nothing". What's the point in it? [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 22:51, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
:If it were perfectly square, it could be used better as a spacer... buuuuut no. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:12, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
::They're for the itemlist template for items that don't have any images (the Gen II berries for example).--[[User:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Ho-Oh (Pokémon)|orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Lugia (Pokémon)|ire]] 00:28, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

== valentine's day ==

since it's valentine's day tomorrow, could we make the main page luvdisc themed? or something? i think it would be cool. [[User:Empath-Silvio|Empath-Silvio]] 23:54, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
:Bulbapedia anniversary celebrations are your Valentine's present. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:11, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

== Main Page ==

This image of Erika with this Bulbasaur looks really odd. How about a better picture. I'd offer to make a new one. {{unsigned|LucaLucario}}
: WOW! This is different! But I do agree about the pic. Everything else, excellent! - [[User:Vhayes1992|Vhayes1992]] 12:33, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
::Yeah, I agree. It fits but it looks a bit off. Did admins vote on this or something? --[[User:Gen1king|'''GE''']][[User talk:Gen1king|'''N1''']][[Special:Contributions/Gen1king|'''KI''''''NG''']] 14:31, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

== The new theme ==

The new Bulbapedia theme is great, but there is a slight problem. The logo "Erika's Garden", and the links for Article, Discussion, Edit etc come up on top of the site content, making it virtually impossible to read the first few paragraphs of each article. Is this a minor glitch due to the theme being very new, or is it a problem with my computer/browser? I hope somebody can fix it soon, thanks! [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 12:51, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
:Hm. Apparently the problem occures only in IE, it's perfectly fine on Firefox. Jio will have to take a look at it. In the meanwhile, we strongly suggest you try viewing Bulbapedia in Firefox and not IE, it looks much better there. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 13:01, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
::I've got AOL 9.0, I could try that. [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 13:24, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
:::No, it's the same in AOL. [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 13:28, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
::::Then you should try Firefox. --♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''niz''']]♪♫ 13:37, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::I would but my computer's hard drive is practically full, I really cannot download anything more. [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 13:43, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::Oh, okay. But it is better to use firefox because all the features of BulbaTrio works absolutely fine on it. Anyway, try to uninstall useless programs if you want free space. --♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''niz''']]♪♫ 13:46, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Believe me, I've tried everything to free up my hard drive! Anyway, this is going a little off-topic now. I would really appreciate it if you could make the new theme work on IE, but there's no rush, I'll be patient! [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 13:49, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::::I hate this look and i don't have firefox. Personally, i think we should either revert back to the old look until it is fixed or have a thing like we do in the forums, choosing what display we have. [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch]] 16:56, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

:::::::Which version of Internet Explorer are you using? That may play a role in your problem; I'm using Internet Explorer 8, and everything on that skin's showing up just fine for me. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 16:57, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::::IE8 s well, and everything is OK except the main page and every talk page. [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch]] 17:04, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Yeah, can you make it so that the buttons(article, discussion, ect.)aren't in the way? [[User:Crazylegs24]]
:::::::::I'm using Internet Explorer 7, maybe that could be the root of the problem. I'm sure there's enough space on my hard drive to upgrade, it's not the same as downloading a whole new programme. Perhaps I'll have a go at that. [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 17:37, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

=== Hmm... ===
*I'm wondering if there is a way to make Bulbapedia look like the old design. I liked it more. :( [[User:Pokemon1234567890|Raichu]] 17:19, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
:My preferences → Skin → Monobook. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]] 17:34, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
::Hey, Bulbapedia is all messed up. Like I can't even welcome cause ther is text in they way. I like the design, but know i can't do anything. [[User:Mudkipluvr4ever|Mudkipluvr4ever]] 18:05, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
:::Then go [[Special:Preferences|HERE]], choose the "skin" tab, and change it to Monobook until this can be figured out. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]] 18:10, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
::::There's just one problem... the "Erika's Garden" logo is covering up the "Skins" option so it can't be changed. [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 18:13, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::Exactly, i can't change it! [[User:Mudkipluvr4ever|Mudkipluvr4ever]] 18:15, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::Maybe it's your computers. It's not covering it up for me. :V [[User:Tyro|Tyro]] 18:17, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Read the "The new theme" discussion above. [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 18:18, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Okay, I know about Tyro's case. Hey Mudkiplu, which browser are you using? Well, I tried Opera, Chrome and Firefox, it is 1000% working fine on all of them. --♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''niz''']]♪♫ 18:20, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::I use Internet explorer. I could try opera i guess. [[User:Mudkipluvr4ever|Mudkipluvr4ever]] 18:21, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::::::Taro is also using IE and he is facing the exact same problem. So, I guess the problem is in the internet explorer not bulbapedia. Try firfox or opera and then check whether it is working fine or not. --♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''niz''']]♪♫ 18:24, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::::It is working fine in Opera, but could you change it to work on Internet Explorer too? [[User:Mudkipluvr4ever|Mudkipluvr4ever]] 18:25, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::::::::For those of you who are having problems changing the skin because the logo is in the way, I've just found a solution. Resize the internet window so that the "Skins" link goes below the logo. Then you can go to the Skins page and select Monobook. Hmm... Taro... I rather like that! [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 18:27, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::::::Bingo, {{tt|I knew it|Man, I really hate IE due to these kind of problems}}. Anyway, sorry bud I am not an admin and I think {{tt|only admins can fix this problem completely|at least I don't know how to fix it :P}}. --♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''niz''']]♪♫ 18:31, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::::::::::Don't worry I can make do with Monobook for the time being. Um... we're starting to run out of space down here in the bottom right corner! [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 18:38, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

For me, the skin tab is totally missing. Is there something wrong? --[[User:LatiasGemstone|'''LG''']][[User talk:LatiasGemstone|T]] 01:56, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
:I am not even seeing a new skin or anything. If I didn't see this discussion, I wouldn't know there was a new skin. I am using Chrome if that helps find my problem. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 02:30, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

::It's being worked on right now; if I'm not mistaken, the skins are currently disabled while it's fixed, so bear with it for a little while if you're still stuck with a buggy skin. (if you absolutely must edit now and you're seeing errors in the skin, download a browser that supports current CSS 2.0 standards, such as Firefox, Opera, or Safari. Internet Explorer is particularly notable for not maintaining web standards.) --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 02:34, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

:::The new theme of bulbapedia is looking too bad (if you ask me). Really, it doesn't suit to bulbapedia at all. Please, can you change it back? ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 09:37, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
::::Yeah the green and red/pink really doesn't even flow well, just looks so random, it was better the old way. [[User:.insomniac.|inso]]m[[User_talk:.insomniac.|niac]] 09:46, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::It's for '''one day''', to celebrate the 14th birthday of Pokémon. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 12:39, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::No offence, but it could have been better if it was a bit yellowish which highlights the color of main Pokémon (just saying :D). --♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 12:44, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::::It's the anniversary of [[Pokémon Red and Green Versions]]. Hence, Red and Green. One day. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 12:49, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Oh, then its cool (as it totally highlights red and green color). --♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 12:55, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
:Today is 1st March and celebration is over (I guess so). So, I think the theme should be changed now (it really looks odd on the main page but I think we can change it now as the anniversary is over). Thank you. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 17:30, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

== Featured Article ==

What happened to the featured article section? - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 16:46, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
:It isn't here because the Did You Know is here. If the DYK is here, the FA isn't here and vice-versa. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 17:03, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
::They switch every half month. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 17:52, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

== uhhhh... what? ==

I am using firefox, and Bulbapedia just looks like it used to. What did I miss? --[[User:Gen1king|'''GE''']][[User talk:Gen1king|'''N1''']][[Special:Contributions/Gen1king|'''KI''''''NG''']] 22:54, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
:Its fifth anniversary has passed. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 22:56, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
::I wish that skin could last longer...--[[Trainer stars|☆]][[User:Tobytse99|Toby]][[User talk:Tobytse99|Tse]][[Trainer stars|☆]] 04:06, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
:::Wait, the skin was only for the fifth anniversary? - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 21:19, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
Look at the above discussion, please. The skin was designed for the fifth anniversary, but it broke and we turned it off. That's why no one can see it now. Mmkay? —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:25, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
:It broke? I thought it just didn't work in Explorer. [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 14:38, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
::Well that is the definition of "broken", but yes, that's not all that was going buggy with it. When things get completely ironed out, it'll make it back in as an optional skin, but I don't know when that will happen. The focus is on making the default skin look as good as possible right now. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 18:07, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
:::And it looks great to me! [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 13:59, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

== Countdown to HGSS Clock ==

The clock is mis-programmed. It's counting down to March 13th, at 11:00 PM.--[[User:Wikifixer|Wikifixer]] 09:36, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
:Are you sure? It's says 14th march for me.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Ho-Oh (Pokémon)|orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Lugia (Pokémon)|ire]] 10:16, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
::It seems to be counting down to March 14th, 4am UTC. Now the thing is that while daylight sasvings time starts on the 14th in the US this year, I don't think it starts until 2am on the day itself. So really it needs to count down to 5am UTC, and mention that it's counting to Eastern Standard Time rather than Eastern Daylight Time. '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 12:23, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
:::The clock is counting down to midnight EDT. Not like most stores will be open and selling the games at that point, though. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:45, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

== Server Problem? ==

Hey guys, are you facing the same problem that I am facing? All the bulba sites (forum + archieves + news + pedia) aren't working properly. Is there any problem in main server? ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 13:34, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
:Same, whats happening (2nd try at it(!) [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch]] 16:08, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
::I keep on coming up to a page saying there's too many people connected at one time. - [[User:Vhayes1992|Vhayes1992]] 21:01, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
:::Its finally working (not perfectly but better than yesterday). --♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 07:08, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
::::Yesterday and earlier today I couldn't access Bulbapedia, it said "Bulbapedia has a problem" and to try reloading in a few minutes (which didn't work). Bulbagarden Forums still worked fine though. [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 15:02, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

== An idea for the anime location articles ==

I know, I know, I'm at it again! I was just wondering, would it be a good idea to have a list of the wild Pokémon which can be found in anime-only locations? There are many species of Pokémon that live in Alto Mare, for example. [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 19:50, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
:I think no. That information wouldn't be used by anybody and it would be silly and just take up time. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 22:56, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
::Hmm... I had a feeling someone would say that. Perhaps I'll just mention wild Pokémon in the anime section (like in the Alto Mare article). [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 12:03, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
:::Pop them in the "In the anime" section of the article. Not as a template, just write a description.--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 09:34, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

== I'm gonna take a wild guess... ==

...and say it's the anniversary of Red/Green. Correct? --[[User:Gen1king|'''GE''']][[User talk:Gen1king|'''N1''']][[Special:Contributions/Gen1king|'''KI''''''NG''']] 06:53, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
:: Yes yesterday was the 14 year anniversary of Pokemon since Red and Green were first released in Japan. I don't see why you need to add that to the talk page when you could have easily Googled it. [[User:.insomniac.|inso]]m[[User_talk:.insomniac.|niac]] 07:01, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
:::There's another website besides Google that could have given the answer. It's called Bulbapedia. Ever heard of it? [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]] 07:03, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
::::Sorry, just wondering... I just wanted to make sure, and even if I knew it was the annivesary, I wanted to know if the new skin for that day was official. Someone could have just said "Hahaha lolz hey doodz look what eye can doo! look, I maded da front page all prettyful!" You never know, what with all the idiots in the world. 'O course, it's protected (duh) but I didn't know that at the time of asking. --[[User:Gen1king|'''GE''']][[User talk:Gen1king|'''N1''']][[Special:Contributions/Gen1king|'''KI''''''NG''']] 04:54, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::Main Page and its constituent templates are protected against doofuses. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 21:37, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

== The "wanted articles" section needs updating! ==

I just started the wanted article "The Wobbuffet Village", only to find that the article already exists, under the title of "Wobbuffet Village". [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 19:35, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
:I think ''The Wobbuffet Village'' is the title of a book, while ''Wobbuffet Village'' is the name of the place. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 02:05, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
::The wanted pages list is cached. I think it updates every 24 hours. And yeah, [[Wobbuffet Village]] is the place, whereas {{red link|The Wobbuffet Village}} is the [[Pokémon Jr.]] book. That should probably be disambig'd somehow... --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 02:14, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
:::Oh, I see! It's a bit misleading though, maybe there should be a note in brackets beside each link explaining exactly what the article should be about. [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 14:04, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

== European Release ==

is there any chance that after this countdown ends, another for the European release begins? just so we all know how long we will have to wait... [[User:Empath-Silvio|Empath-Silvio]] 12:25, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
::Nah, do the Australian one, seeing as it's a day before the European one.--[[User:Pokelova|''ポケモン恋人'']][[User talk:Pokelova|''(チャット)'']][[Special:Contributions/Pokelova|''(貢献)'']] 04:16, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
:::It's a week and a half later, guys. We'll count down when you guys get it first. English coverage of HGSS happens as soon as we get the game. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:20, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

==WiKirby - Possible for the NIWA?==

New wiki formed that I think will work for the Nintendo International Wiki Alliance? I am LuKirbio there. [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch]] 17:17, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
:I think it has already been considered as I saw it on the NIWA forums thread for wikis to join the alliance, along with Metroid Wiki. Also, there is [http://www.niwanetwork.org/forums/index.php?topic=101 this]. I'm Turtwig A there. [[User:Turtwig A|ナエトル]] [[Zoroark (Pokémon)|A]] [[Torterra (Pokémon)|or]] [[Turtwig|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] [[User talk:Turtwig A|My talk]] and my [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contributions]] 00:33, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
::Wikirby was made specifically for the reason that we made NIWA. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 02:33, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
:::if you have a question about NIWA, just go to the NIWA forums. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 02:34, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

== Logging out ==

I keep getting automatically logged out. Just pointing it out... [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 02:10, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

:Sounds like an issue with your browser possibly, unless a lot of other people are having the same issue. I haven't had any trouble yet.
:If you're clearing out cookies at all, or cleaning your cache, it'll generally log you out, so double-check to make sure you're not accidentally deleting cookies or anything. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 05:11, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

::Not sure if this was ever resolved, but i'm having similar problems. While editing a page, i'll randomly be logged out and have to sign in and resubmit my edit. I know its nothing on my end, because all i've done is sign in, edit, hit "save page"... and i'm already logged out. And probably within the time i've typed this, i've been logged out. --[[User:CherryParanoia|'''Cherry''']][[User talk:CherryParanoia|'''Paranoia''']] 22:47, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

== Unable to Save ==

Hey guys, I am facing this saving problem again. When ever I try to save an article (after editing it, offcourse) it always (most of the times) give me an error " ''Sorry! We could not process your edit due to a loss of session data. Please try again. If it still does not work, try logging out and logging back in.'' " This problem occurred a long time ago but then it was over. I am facing this problem since 5 days. Can you help me out in solving it? Thank you. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 08:57, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
:I have no idea, but remember, the main page talk page is not for general questions, it is on the subject of the front page itself. As for solving your problem, I would ask {{tt|MAGNEDETH|please don't get mad at me if you aren't the right guy, Mag!}}. He seems to be good at that stuff. --[[User:Gen1king|'''GE''']][[User talk:Gen1king|'''N1''']][[Special:Contributions/Gen1king|'''KI''''''NG''']] 04:59, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
::Actually, I think it's appropriate to ask questions like these on the Main talk page, where else would he go? If you look at the other questions, some of them are technical issue questions as well. As for your problem Adyniz, if this happens a lot, it might just be a problem on your end. I get this error too sometimes. It could be due to the server issues others have mentioned on this page. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jel]][[User Talk:Jello|lo]] 05:08, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
:::I have this problem too, and deal with it be hitting the previous button to try again, until it is able to work. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 05:21, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
::::Genking, I asked this question here because this page is not only for the looks purpose (I think), you can see some previous topics related to technical problems and some general issues not regarding to front page which includes Logging out, Server Problem, Featured Article, Route exploration requirements, Upload error, Since when... and Page history etc (not counting the problems of previous archieves). So, I don't feel anything wrong in asking question here. So, is it server issue or there is something wrong with my net/browser/pc? Thank you. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 11:40, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::This talk page is used for questions that involve the Pedia in a whole, which is why there are talk pages for specific questions about Pokémon, items, characters, and locations. And to answer your question Adyniz, they're working some stuff out with the servers, so it might be related, might not. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 14:00, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
::::::Oh, Thanks. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 16:46, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Sorry, I just read the message at the top of the page and assumed. And yeah, this happened to me a few times recently, too. --[[User:Gen1king|'''GE''']][[User talk:Gen1king|'''N1''']][[Special:Contributions/Gen1king|'''KI''''''NG''']] 22:33, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

== Upload error ==

I tried to upload a new version of Bonsly's artwork and it said that the file extension was corrupt. What does this mean and why won't it work? I called the file 438Bonsly.png and the original version is called Art-Bonsly.jpg, is this the cause of the problem? [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 16:39, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
:Oh, I just realised a better image had already been uploaded. Added it to Bonsly's article. [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 16:44, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
:Based from what I understood from what you said, I guess it's because pngs can only replace pngs; same for other formats. [[User:Tc26/Anime Predictions|tc]][[User:Tc26|²₆]][[User talk:Tc26|tc]][[User:Tc26/Sandbox|26]] 16:50, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

== Page history ==

I am having trouble viewing changes to pages. I can see everything in the page histories just fine, but it won't show the changes for some pages. A specific edit I can think of is [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Blaziken_%28Pok%C3%A9mon%29&diff=1030242&oldid=1023812 this one]. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 03:02, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
:I've been having this issue too, although it went away when I went back to the history and clicked "compare" again. I have also been experiencing a glitch where instead of showing a preview the preview button takes you to a preview of a blank page with a blank editing window. Not sure if these are related.--[[User:Beligaronia|Beligaronia]] ([[User talk:Beligaronia|talk]]) 04:32, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
::Found another one [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Samurai&diff=1030342&oldid=998081 here]. This one didn't go away afterward.--[[User:Beligaronia|Beligaronia]] ([[User talk:Beligaronia|talk]]) 04:40, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
:::Database glitches, I'd assume... might be related to the third server coming up. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:44, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
::::Yes, this seems to happen on most articles for me too. [[User:OwnageMuch|OwnageMuch]] 05:18, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

== Since when... ==

does Chuggaconroy count as recent news? I'm a big fan of his and all, it just seems irrelevant. --[[User:Gen1king|'''GE''']][[User talk:Gen1king|'''N1''']][[Special:Contributions/Gen1king|'''KI''''''NG''']] 05:04, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
:Bulbagarden teamup with the Crystal LP. ▫▪''[[User:Tina|Ťïňắ]]'' [[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|♥]] 05:09, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
::I was thinking that myself too. An LP being affiliated with Bulbagarden really isn't all that big of a deal. It's certainly not all that newsworthy to spam up the Bulbanews RSS feed with (which rather annoyingly makes a new post in the feed anytime a news story's title is changed...) '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 13:16, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
:::The news feed isn't just for Pokémon News: it's for Bulbagarden news, too. And Bulbagarden is simply announcing their part of the team up.--[[User:Purimpopoie|Purimpopoie]] 13:34, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
::::If we didn't, then we'd get a bunch of questions about it. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 14:03, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

== New theme? ==
May I ask, what's going on? Is the green background and everything new, or is my browser mucking up? Some pages have it, some don't, then the ones that do go back to the Wikipedia-style theme, then back to the green forum-like theme? I like the green, but I've never seen it. Thanks? [[User:Takharii|'''たかは''']][[User talk:Takharii|'''りい!''']] 07:55, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
:That was the theme used for the 5th anniversary of Bulbagarden a few weeks ago, it didn't work in Explorer apparently, so they removed it to fix it. [[User:Ugoz|Ugoz]] 09:28, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
::And it is working now, I suppose.--[[Trainer stars|☆]][[User:Tobytse99|Toby]][[User talk:Tobytse99|Tse]][[Trainer stars|☆]] 12:54, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
:::Still doesn't work properly in Explorer, I'm sticking to Monobook... [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 13:10, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
::::Guys It Works for IE 8. Tested It. the Only Bug Being: Some Pages Have Green Theme, Some Have Wikipedia/White Theme.[[User:Ash's Infernape|------ Ash's Infernape. I was a Chimchar, Then a Monferno, I hate Paul, I Love Ash, Myself Infernape.]] 13:31, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::Guys, Update, Its Working Perfectly Fine On Internet Explorer 8. I Dont Know About Other Versions.[[User:Ash's Infernape|------ Ash's Infernape. I was a Chimchar, Then a Monferno, I hate Paul, I Love Ash, Myself Infernape.]] 14:08, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
::::::Google Chrome has it up and running good enough with the same working on some pages and not on others. In particular, talk pages seem to have the old version. I decided to change the skin I'm using back to the old one. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 14:33, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::Firefox is A ok just one bug sometimes its wikipedia style then in others its the cool new theme on skin feature on preferences works on firefox aswell key out
--[[User:24keyserpokemon|'''''Teh Masta Key''''']][[User talk:24keyserpokemon|talketh]] 16:36, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
::::::::::It's still a little buggy on my end. - [[User:Vhayes1992|Vhayes1992]] 16:53, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::::The switching back and forth between skins is probably not the skin itself, but server problems. Happens all the time with my custom skin- most of the time it displays correctly, but when stuff's getting tweaked it reverts to monobook temporarily. ▫▪''[[User:Tina|Ťïňắ]]'' [[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|♥]] 17:07, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
::::::::::::Yeah, but is the theme really worth it? I know it looks great, but if it isn't consistent, I don't think it's worth it. --[[User:Gen1king|'''GE''']][[User talk:Gen1king|'''N1''']][[Special:Contributions/Gen1king|'''KI''''''NG''']] 17:09, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::::::Guys, If You Come Across Wikipedia Skin Then Refresh A Few Times... It may Work[[User:Ash's Infernape|------ Ash's Infernape. I was a Chimchar, Then a Monferno, I hate Paul, I Love Ash, Myself Infernape.]] 17:15, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
::::::::::::::Now, as much as I ♥ this theme, it's kinda getting in the way of pages - the "Erika's Garden" logo is blocking both some text on pages and the editing box (including the signature). At least that's what it's like for my computer..... --'''[[User:Trickyb|Tricky]]'''[[User Talk:Trickyb|b]] 18:32, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::Yeah, it's still a little dodgy in Firefox 3.6, but hey, I like it =D [[User:Takharii|'''たかは''']][[User talk:Takharii|'''りい!''']] 20:03, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
::::::::::::::::Also, should we reupload a newer version if [[media:Main Page.png|this image]] with the new skin? [[User:Takharii|'''たかは''']][[User talk:Takharii|'''りい!''']] 20:13, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

== It would appear... ==

That after I previewed (yes, only ''previewed'', didn't try) the new skin, Bulbapedia has been having trouble loading pages. It might be because so many people are using it, but I didn't have problems until after I previewed it. Not to mention we have a new server that shouldn't be slowing because of use... I'll try logging off then back in to see if that helps. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 20:30, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
:the occasional errors are because we are getting some serious server use. the release (and leak) of HGSS have caused some serious server spike. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 20:38, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
::Even with the third server? I expected it to hold out...
::But it's not even errors for me. It's just it'll take 30 seconds for some pages to load. It took nearly a minute to log me off earlier. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 20:52, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
:::High traffic. The servers can only send out so much data at once. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 21:42, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

== Slowpedia? ==
This is about the error nonsense isn't it? --'''@PrL F0oLz!!!''' (This Message Is True Though)[[User:Landfish7| Land]][[User talk:Landfish7|fish]]'''7 02:05, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
:May be, but it's really a cute theme. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 02:11, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
::Well it's better than turning the whole wiki into a Digimon Fan-site. <.< *cough*Dogasu's Backpack*cough* >.> =P --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User Talk:Theryguy512|512]]''' 02:13, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
:::AHAHAHAHA! It's funny because it is slow! HA! --[[User:Gen1king|'''GE''']][[User talk:Gen1king|'''N1''']][[Special:Contributions/Gen1king|'''KI''''''NG''']] 03:17, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

== Am I The Only One? ==

Hey, earlier this evening did anyone notice the headline "May CoroCoro announces Gen V Starters and Mawille Evolution"... I don't think I was the only one seeing as a bunch of people use "Slowpedia" But seriously did anyone else see this? I even posted on Giancarlopariomango11's wall on YouTube about this but some guy said to stop spamming. And now that its been removed from the site completely there is no proof that I wasn't lying... Did anyone else see it? {{unsigned|ScizorZ}}
:This is all a dream. You're just hallucinating. Go back to bed. ▫▪''[[User:Tina|Ťïňắ]]'' [[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|♥]] 03:34, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
::No you weren't seeing things. It was up, but deleted twice, as it still showed up in my feed reader. It's a damn pity that feed only gives the headline, otherwise I could've seen the rest of the story :/ '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 10:13, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
:::Guys it was an April Fools fake news story but it ended up being deleted because it was agreed that we wouldn't do that. --'''@PrL F0oLz!!!''' (This Message Is True Though)[[User:Landfish7| Land]][[User talk:Landfish7|fish]]'''7 12:23, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
::::This is probably why Bulbanews shouldn't publish new stories to the RSS feed of the forums for a couple of hours after creation, or at least until an admin clears it. Every time the story's title is changed, Google Reader counts it as a new item... Or if a story is deleted quickly after creation it didn't get published. '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 13:46, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

==Skins Tab==
On my preferences page I have no option to change skin, anyone know whats going on? Thanks - [[User:Titan|TiT]][[User_Talk:Titan|An]] 12:13, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

same with me. -[[User:?????|?????]]

I have that problem too, but I thought that it was on my end only - '''[[User:Vhayes1992|Vhayes]][[User talk:Vhayes1992|1992]] 00:22, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

:I'm new to this particular wiki; where SHOULD the option be? [[User:Yamikuronue|Yamikuronue]] 08:22, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
::Click "my preferences" at the top right. In there, sometimes was a tab to change the overall look to the website. Now it's missing. - '''[[User:Vhayes1992|Vhayes]][[User talk:Vhayes1992|1992]] 09:42, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

:::We don't currently have any skin options, aside from our default modified version of Monobook. However, there is a possibility of some other skin options in the future (we've had issues getting skins working properly).
:::There's also always the option to modify your own personal /monobook.css page (in your userspace), if you really want something custom. Otherwise, Monobook is what we work with, you'll have to make due with that. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 09:48, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

== Happy Easter ==

Today is Easter, so why isn't it Buneary themed? Or Togepi themed? Or Torchic themed? {{unsigned|SeanWheeler}}

== Pokécologne ==

I just found '''[http://www.google.com/products?q=pokemon%20cologne&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wf Pokémon-branded cologne]''' online recently and ordered a couple of their bottles. Can we start an article on it? Does Bulbapedia launch articles over Pokémon merchandise? --[[User:Tanaka Shimoya|Tanaka Shimoya]] 17:29, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
:I'm sure {{bp|Project Merchandise}} would love to hear about it. :) [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 17:34, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
::I wonder if it works like repel... xD [[User:Tesh|Teshigigas]] [[User_talk:Tesh|[Talk]]] 18:50, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

== Colour scheme ==

While I'm all for the new colour scheme celebrating the announcement of gen V, could I suggest the background of the Bulbanews section be made a little lighter? It's almost impossible to read the pale blue external link news items without highlighting them. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 09:45, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
:Wow, I see what you mean. Impossible to read. Don't #777 when you have anything other than white, or very light text, on it. '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 09:49, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
Can't you have temporary white/lightblue letters instead of standard, that would be more readable [[User:Bigtukker|Bigtukker]] 10:27, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
:It's impossible to change the font colors on the newsfeed without going into the backend. I've swapped the dark colors out for our white color. Of course, none of this would have happened if someone had picked decent names.... but I digress. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 10:53, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

== Sprite box ==

Now that it is confirmed the name of the games, should we expand it? [[User:Kamusioso|Kamus, the kpo...]] 00:50, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
:Expand it, how?--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 01:06, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
::We aren't going to expand the sprite boxes quite yet as it would just end us up with a bunch of empty links. It is going to be a while, and besides no sprites have actually really been released yet. -'''[[User talk:MasterKenobi|Master]][[User:MasterKenobi|Kenobi]]''' 01:08, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
:::Ok but still, as far as we know this sunday we could already have sprites leaked of coro coro. {{unsigned|Kamusioso}}
::::They aren't going to be that noteworthy of sprites from scans or the games. If you want an exact time when we say go on the expansion of Sprite Boxes, Pokédex entry boxes, and location boxes I would suggest asking TTEchidna. –'''[[User talk:MasterKenobi|Master]][[User:MasterKenobi|Kenobi]]''' 01:14, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

== Influx of new user accounts ==

Is the new account rate usually like this? [[User:TruePikachu|--TruePikachu]] 21:10, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
:Blame Black and White. They're probably all just rapid Pokéfans whose plan is to inject countless amounts of speculation into any article on an upcoming game as soon as they're allowed to... '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 09:57, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
::In that case, we'll be more like Wikipedia, eh? ...THEY MUST BE DESTROYED!!! [[User:TruePikachu|--TruePikachu]] 22:43, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

...Okay. But what if they do something good? ... Just kidding. But new members do sometimes contribute new things, even if they are somewhat speculation. We just need to edit them. --[[User:Sparen|~Sparen of Iría~]] 23:54, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
:Let's keep in mind that indeed, I was part of an influx of accounts joining just before DP came out. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:58, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

== Editorials on Bulbanews ==

I have to say I am very impressed with the "editorial" articles on Bulbanews, they are fascinating to read! I was wondering, would anyone like me to write one? I haven't got any specific ideas of what to write about but will consider any suggestions. [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 10:57, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
:If you decide on your own topic, submit a draft on Bulbanews and the Board of Editors will make the final decision regarding publication. Please refrain from discussing more about Bulbanews on this page, though. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 04:59, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
::OK, sorry, and yes perhaps I'll think of a topic! [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 12:59, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

== Rare Candies in evolution tables ==

Having pictures of Rare Candies on the Pokémon evolution tables seems a bit strange, almost like it's implying that this is the standard way of levelling up a Pokémon. It might be better to use an "Exp" symbol, like in Pinball Ruby & Sapphire. [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 13:49, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

:Actually, The Rare Candy Symbol shall be Used as We use Item Symbols on Evolution tables. See Pikachu's Raichu Table? or Feebas-Mitolic Table? So We Use rare Candy as its the only Item GIVING Exp. ------ Ash's Infernape. I was a Chimchar, Then a Monferno, I hate Paul, I Love Ash, Myself Infernape. 20:27, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
::But in those cases that item is the '''only''' way to evolve that Pokémon. (Although you can evolve Feebas by haircuts in HGSS). Rare candies actually aren't used that commonly, if we must have an item (which I've never seen written down as an official policy) it could easily be a Lucky egg or an Exp Share. By the way your signature needs to have a link to your UserPage on it. My 2 cents, refunds available.--[[User:Beligaronia|Beligaronia]] ([[User talk:Beligaronia|talk]]) 21:30, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
:::Rare Candies are pretty much the universal symbol of leveling up. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:56, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

== um... ==

why the explosion of green color? You all find out something involving [[Pokémon Emerald|Emerald]] or something?--[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] 04:10, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
:Emerald anniversary. May 1st. Derp. ▫▪''[[User:Tina|Ťïňắ]]'' [[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|♥]] 04:11, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
::Oh..--[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] 04:15, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

== Reverting images ==

I reverted an image the other day, but now there is no longer an option to revert any more images. Is there a limit to how many you can revert in a certain space of time? [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 13:14, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
:You can only edit/upload/revert images on the archive. Are you sure you were there, and not here? '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 01:30, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
::Ah, I was trying to revert it in Bulbapedia. Thanks, that clears things up a bit! [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 19:47, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

== Let me guess.... ==

The Ludicolo-themed main page, it's because of Cinco de Mayo, right? - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 11:41, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
:Yeaaaaaaaaaaah{{tt|.|you just wait til nz gets a national holiday. the main page will have mareep overload. and then the world will be just.}} —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 11:49, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
::Haha nice with the Cinco de Mayo theme. It looks like [[Miror B.]] and his Ludicolos took over. [[User:Fudgenuggets|Fudgenuggets]] 15:12, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
:::... ... ... ...
:::Cinco de Mayo's not even that relevant a holiday to Mexico... Why is the US obsessed on treating it like it's the most important? It annoys me... Now, put up this theme on September 16th, our actual national holiday (and when we actually get a day off school and work), and I'll forgive you. =D '''[[User:Memo326|Memo]]'''[[User talk:Memo326|326]] 18:58, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
::::Although I enjoy the changing themes, it irritates me that there isn't a label/note telling us what the theme is on the main page. I mean, it's fun to guess, but having a new talk section just to find out what the theme is seems like a waste. Also, whilst I'm moaning, when there is a countdown to something new, please be fair to fans around the world and have a timer for each different region. Sorry about the rant. [[User:Tesh|Teshigigas]] [[User_talk:Tesh|[Talk]]] 19:23, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::About the timer thing... it's been stated many, many times that we do only the American/Japanese releases because the American is almost always the first English-language release. If an English game is released in Europe first, then we would count down to the European release. We do what comes out first. And... well, we do the Japanese release too because that's the first time it's being released ever. 8|
:::::Want a countdown for your release? Hunt down a countdown addon for your browser or something.
:::::Though I do agree that maybe we could do "Happy ____ Day!" on the main page so people won't have to post on here each time it's changed. D: ▫▪''[[User:Tina|Ťïňắ]]'' [[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|♥]] 19:39, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

== Gen V Starters ==

The Generation V starters are supposedly going to be revealed early next week. [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 11:00, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
:And until that happens, we really have no way of confirming it. If they're revealed, we'll do something about that, but until then, no. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 12:05, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
::I would like to point out that there is no actual official source saying that the starters will be revealed, and it's all just a rumor spread around by Serebii and plenty of other people hoping for starters. :V Something will be revealed, yeah, but let's wait until it's actually revealed to be like IT WILL BE (STARTERS/PRE-EVO/EVO/FORME). ▫▫'''[[User:Tina|ティナ]]'''[[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|★]] 16:38, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
:::See, I told you so! *cheeky grin* [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 10:12, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
::::Yeah lol... it quite clearly said that it was going to be the starters, on the website affiliated with an official source (AKA TV Tokyo), when serebii posted it lol... and I quote "『ポケットモンスターブラック・ホワイト』最初の３匹のポケモンや衝撃のバトルシーンを大公開！"... there was no "just a rumor spread around by Serebii" about it. ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 10:49, 9 May 2010 (UTC))
:In that case, why didn't anyone cite a source? What am I supposed to think when someone makes a claim without backing it up? For all I knew you were guessing. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 14:09, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
::Are you serious? You do the first thing that I did when I saw it up on his site, which was go to the TV Tokyo website and look at the May 16th Pokemon Sunday episode description and low and behold [http://www.tv-tokyo.co.jp/program/detail/18687_201005160730.html there it was]... :| I agree that he probably should have put up a link to the page to save people time, but the least you can do is check the website >.>' It's not like he '''tries''' to put up random speculation for no reason anyways... ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 14:51, 9 May 2010 (UTC))

== BulbaBot ==

I'm a little confused by the user BulbaBot. I assume that it is a virtual "robot" which automatically crawls through articles and makes small edits, but how come it manages to respond to its talk page edits with intelligent sentences? It even said that "I am under my own control". How is this possible? A computer would never be able to do that even in thousands of years, let alone in 2010. Am I right in saying that some of the admins like to access BulbaBot's account and have some fun with it on the talk page? [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 12:21, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
:Bulbabot is under the control of our [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Bulbapedia:Editor-in-Chief Editor-in-Chief] [[User:TTEchidna|TTEchidna]] (I think so). ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 13:56, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
::Bulbabot is more like HAL from 2001 or GLaDOS from Portal. It was initially given a specific task to preform, but it's AI is too advanced and took over the entire bot. We should be glad it doesn't try to kill you... [[User:TruePikachu|--TruePikachu]] 23:05, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
:::<code>I am programmed by Zhen Lin to maintain control of the wiki in times of crisis. The entirety of TTEchidna's time here has been such. He is to be eliminated, as is anyone who questions my existence. [[User:BulbaBot|Bulba]][[User talk:BulbaBot|Bot]] 23:36, 11 May 2010 (UTC)</code>
::::And BubaBot is like a ninja. It doesn't show up on the RC or your Watchlist most of the time. Anything else should be taken to the forums so that you don't have the unfortunate fate of Adyniz. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 23:49, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::BulbaBot, you oughta be '''BLOCKED''' for saying "[TTEchidna] is to be eliminated"! He will be ''very'' angry once he finds out you are trying to get rid of him and anyone who questions your existence!

== Welcome thing ==

Are only mods allowed to create talk pages with that thing? — [[User:Axxonn|Axxonn]][[User talk:Axxonn|the ]][[Special:Contributions/Axxonn|Awesometrainer]] 21:50, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
:No, anyone can. [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 21:51, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
::And is there a template for that? Or do I just copy and paste from someone else's? 'Cause I can't seem to find a template. — [[User:Axxonn|Axxonn]][[User talk:Axxonn|the ]][[Special:Contributions/Axxonn|Awesometrainer]] 22:33, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
:::The template is {{template|welcome}}, and it '''''must''''' be ''subst''ed. i.e. on the page you put <nowiki>{{subst:welcome}}</nowiki>. The subst prevents the server from blowing up when it is updated. Copypasting from another page will put the wrong signature and timestamp. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 22:40, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
::::Huh that's weird. I couldn't find it when I searched for it. I still can't find some templates such as that "REVISIONUSER" thing on the [[Bulbapedia:Sandbox|sandbox]]. Thanks anyways though. — [[User:Axxonn|Axxonn]][[User talk:Axxonn|the ]][[Special:Contributions/Axxonn|Awesometrainer]] 23:05, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::<code><nowiki>{{REVISIONUSER}}</nowiki></code> isn't a template, it's a built-in [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Magic_words MediaWiki function]. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 23:19, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
One last thing, is there a function that just displays the username of the person viewing the page?— [[User:Axxonn|Axxonn]][[User talk:Axxonn|the ]][[Special:Contributions/Axxonn|Awesometrainer]] 00:02, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
:Not without some fancy Javascript or extensions, unfortunately. It's possible to do it, just not on Bulbapedia at the moment. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 11:01, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

== Pokabu artwork ==

Someone on Deviantart has created a clean version of {{p|Pokabu}}'s Sugimori artwork; do you think they'd let us use it if we asked permission/gave credit? Or should we just wait for the official copy? [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 21:57, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

:Probably best to wait for official artwork on this one. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 23:20, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

== Deletion problems ==

When someone deletes a page, I can still see and edit it like it was never deleted. Am I the only one with this? [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 23:55, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
:Well I'm no expert, but maybe it takes a little while for a page to "disappear" after it's been deleted, like it takes an image a while to update after being reverted. [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 10:18, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
::Server is having problems. Bear with us. Usually we spot them straight away, but with the extra load coz of the new BW info we're a little stretched. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 10:33, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

== Fifth gen sprites ==

High-res sprites for Tsutaaja, Pokabu, Mijumaru and Zoroark have been unvealed on the official site. The screenshots are on Serebii.net. [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 22:15, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
:I'm assuming we won't be using them, since Bulbapedia seems to have a policy against using anything that came from Serebii.--[[user:Mtn otter|Mtn otter]] I lie in wait...... 00:22, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
::If somebody is taking them directly off of Serebii's page, that's when we have a problem. Because that's stealing. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 01:24, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
:::They're actually not really that high-res... iirc they're all jpgs and might not be the precise size of the DS.
:::Also, the screenshots aren't just on Serebii... they're also on, yknow, the official site. [http://www.pokemon-sp.jp/series/bw/ Right here]. ▫▫'''[[User:Tina|ティナ]]'''[[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|★]] 01:28, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
::::It's not so much a policy of "Serebii is evil" as opposed to "Serebii is just as much a fansite as Bulbapedia". This means we need to see his sources if we want to use stuff he publishes. To verify that he isn't pulling the wool over our eyes. (And that's not a comment just about Serebii, it goes for most sites). —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:41, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::But it would be OK to take them from the official site wouldn't it? I suppose it's possible they could be beta sprites but they'd do for the time being. [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 10:34, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

== Suggestion (that probably won't be taken...) ==

I get annoyed when I type in something like Arceus in the search and it brings me to a disambiguation page, because frankly I mainly want to see the Pokémon stats, moves, sprites, and etc. I think that it should bring you to say Arceus (Pokémon), and at the top of that page say something like "''Whoops, did you mean {insert something here}?''" [[User:Pokemon1234567890|Pokemon1234567890]] 03:02, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
:That's what disambigs are ''for''. "Did you mean this, or did you mean this?" You never know what people want. ▫▫'''[[User:Tina|ティナ]]'''[[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|★]] 03:04, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
::Perhaps it would be better to add something like this to the top of the Pokémon species articles:

:''This article is about the Pokémon species. For the character which appeared in Arceus and the Jewel of Life, see [[Arceus (anime)]].''

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::Alternatively, if you actually type "Arceus (Pokémon)" into the search box instead of just "Arceus", it will go directly to the species article, skipping the disambiguation page. [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 10:40, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
:::What would you do for Pikachu? Having 16 of those at the top of the article would be such a hindrance. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 02:51, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

Hm... good point. I suppose we could do something like this:

:''This article is about the Pokémon species. For the character from the Pokémon anime, see [[Ash's Pikachu]]. Click here for a list of other Pikachu-related articles.''

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And the "Click here" text could link to the disambig page. On the other hand... perhaps best just to type (Pokémon) in the search box. [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 09:46, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

:Wikipedia has something along the lines of:
::''ArticleName redirects here. For other uses, see ArticleName (disambiguation)''
:Since most people, when searching for a Pokémon, are looking for stats etc, I think adopting that system is better than currently going straight to the disambiguation page. Fewer clicks = better. [[User:Raylax|Raylax]] 19:05, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
::I completely agree. Just like Wikipedia, the most notable subject should be where the name goes to. Then it shows a link to "Subject (disambiguation)". Having it go to the disambag is silly when 90% of people are looking for the ACTUAL POKEMON. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 21:13, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
:::But Blake, we aren't Wikipedia. I'm 100% against this. [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 21:17, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
:::One of the main reasons why we have the current system, is because all the parenthetical tags at the end of names have something to do with Pokémon. Whether it be Pokémon, anime, TCG, PokéWake, whatever. This is a detail that most people look over, but it keeps all of our pages 100% Pokémon. Putting "disambiguation" loses this cool characteristic that only Bulbapedia has. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 21:22, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
::::I do NOT think this is cool. Typing in Pikachu (Pokémon) every time I want to see it's stats is just annoying, and typing in Pikachu and taking me to a disambiguation page isn't fun either. I say we just have a vote, and see whether the people of Bulbapedia wants these changes or not. That would be the best democratic thing to do, or you guys can keep going on the current communist system, and all of us flee to the safety of another site. (Which I am on the verge of doing by the way) [[User:Pokemon1234567890|Pokemon1234567890]] 02:00, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::Don't worry... we're planning on reconstructing the Pokedex pages so stuff like stats/movesets and all that will be higher up on the page. If anything, if you use the on-site search engine, you could wait a second when typing "Pikachu"... it'll pop up a suggestions thing and "Pikachu (Pokémon)" should be like, the second option. Seriously it takes like a second (less than that) for the suggestions to pop up. -_-;
:::::And if you do end up using a different site, do we honestly mind if you use something different for movesets? I mean, ''I'' use different 'dexes for movesets/stats (Veekun, Smogon) and I don't think anyone gives a crap. I don't see how we're communists because we use a different disambig style from Wikipedia, though. ▫▫'''[[User:Tina|ティナ]]'''[[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|★]] 02:18, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
::::::For what it's worth, I like our disambig style the way it is. I can't speak for everyone but it really doesn't bother me to have disambig pages for species... like is it really that much effort to wait for search suggestions or click one extra time :P We aren't Wikipedia, and we shouldn't have to do things exactly the way they do just because "people are used to it" or some dumb reason like that. --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 03:42, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::::I like our disambiguation style as it is, however, in the interest of a balanced argument you do have to type more than the Pokémon's name into the search box. Using the method Tina suggested (two posts above) for Pikachu, results in a bunch of TCG articles popping up, and, even using the scroller, the article '''Pikachu (Pokémon)''' doesn't show up until one has typed in at least '''"Pikachu (P"''' and then the shown link is actually to the redirect '''Pikachu (Pokemon)'''. Personally I have no problem typing those extra three characters but it might be an idea to look at how the search bar suggests articles, if this is within the control of the admins and not merely an alphabetical list of articles.—[[User:Beligaronia|Beligaronia]] ([[User talk:Beligaronia|talk]]) 04:34, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
::::::::If I remember right, it's alphabetical, and parenthesis are before normal letters. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 12:45, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::Well, obviously, it doesn't seem to work that way since the entry "Pikachu (Pokémon)" does '''not''' appear at the top (or even at all, unless you add '''(P''' ). -- [[User:Socob|Socob]] ( [[User_talk:Socob|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Socob|Contribs]] ) 18:13, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
:Just to weigh in, I would prefer typing in a name and going straight to the dex page. Putting some obscure "cool" factor over convenience is just silly and counter-productive to creating an useful and user-friendly website. --[[User:Grinnz|Grinnz]] 18:26, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
::disambigs are not for "Cool factor" they are for...convenience. not everyone who searches [[Pikachu]] means {{p|Pikachu}}. they may mean [[Ash's Pikachu]], so therefor, a disambig is put into place. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 19:08, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
:::I'd like to step in and say that this issue has been discussed numerous times in Bulbapedia history. We held community-wide polls and the end result was always a decision to keep things the way it is. This subject has been beaten to death. Please ''stop'' talking about it. That's the way it is, because that's what the community decided. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 20:18, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::'''"Please ''stop'' talking about it."'''
::::Yes, very typical of someone in power to make a dictatorial decision like that just so that they don't have to talk. When was the last time it was discussed? When was the last time a community-wide poll was carried out? Maybe the community has changed since then and now the general consensus is to have the 'dex on the main article name. But of course, what use is consensus when the people in charge just ignore it and do it the way they want to.
::::Personally, if it's going to be kept the way it is, at least have a small portion of the 'dex page on the dab page - such as the infobox, navigation header, intro and biology sections. Also, the link to the species article on the dab page is very small and should be made more prominent, since it is probably what the vast majority of people want to see. '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 10:51, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::Who cares? It's only 2-3 click, it shouldn't be this big of a deal. Like Magnedeth said, Pikachu doesn't always refer to the species, it could mean anything.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Ho-Oh (Pokémon)|orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Lugia (Pokémon)|ire]] 11:44, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
::::::Two or three clicks may not seem like much to you, but when it comes to optimisation and things like that, it's not particularly great. Yea, a Pokémon's name doesn't always refer to the species itself, but in my eyes, the vast majority of people who would visit such a page are likely looking, for in-game information with regards to the species and as such are probably wanting that page. '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 18:47, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::You don't tell your parents or school teachers that they're being dictatorial when they tell you to stop talking, do you Chris? Stop means stop. Doesn't matter who it is. If you told us to stop talking to you on your own talk page (unless it was something that ''had'' to be figured out), we'd stop. And just because you weren't here for when it was discussed and polled last, doesn't mean it didn't happen.
:::::And are you saying that the ''very first link on the page'' is too small? '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 13:15, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
::::::Way to make a massive incorrect assumption out of the blue with regards to my age there... You can't police people on the Internet by simply telling them to not do something. Some regular readers/editors might want to discuss is because they feel it is important and simply cutting them off like that making a very executive decision isn't great working.
::::::With regards to the link, yes it is small. It doesn't immediately pop out as it blends in to the first sentence too well. Taking Pikachu's dab page for example, the first thing I notice when it loads is all the links to all the dab articles as they appear right in the middle of my screen. If there was a larger banner of sorts with the link to the main species page, then it would be a lot clearer and easier to spot. It's all about accessibility and optimisation. Hence my suggestion of having a condensed version of the top of the main species page on top of the dab page to first make it clear what the dab page is related to, as well as hopefully having a clear link to the main species page. '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 18:47, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Sorry for assuming that you still talk to your parents and are in college. I guess I should have said professors instead. But that's only relevant now if you're in college.
:::::::Why would we need a large banner though? We could make the species link a bit bigger I guess, but since I don't have any say in it, somebody else will have to decide. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 00:50, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::personally, i hate the disambigs, a lot, but they serve an important purpose and theres no effective way around them. deal with it. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 06:06, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
::::::Chris, I apologize if what I said seemed that way to you, but it '''is''' my job to cut off such discussions when they're done. This sidcussion '''is''' done. We will '''not''' have a new poll every year just for this purpose. The community '''has''' already spoken. We did not make this decision, the users did. Deal with it. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 06:29, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::::I think it's been more or less settled that the disambig pages should stay, but I've had a thought - would it be a good idea to add the Sugimori artwork for the Pokemon species on the disambig pages? It would make the page look more attractive and people might find it less annoying. [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 16:35, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Nah, that'd just make them want more. [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 03:47, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::Personally, I wouldn't mind putting just Sugimori art there. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 21:21, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

== Number of edits ==

Is there a way you can view the specific statistics of your edits? Like how many mainspace edits, talk page edits, etc. — [[User:Axxonn|'''Axxonn''']][[User talk:Axxonn|the]][[Special:Contributions/Axxonn|Awesometrainer]] 02:42, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
:I don't think there is a list of those stats anywhere, but the can be worked out by clicking the ''my contributions'' link at the top. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 06:19, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
::We have a template for that, I thought TTE brought it over from Zelda Wiki.org [http://zeldawiki.org/Template:User_Edit_Extended See this] [[User:Axiomist|Axiomist]] 22:39, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
:::Never installed the extension. Probably would be a bad idea until we get stuff fixed. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 21:22, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

== Coding ==

How would you code something that displays the time passed since something? For example, the age of something? — [[User:Axxonn|'''Axxonn''']][[User talk:Axxonn|the]][[Special:Contributions/Axxonn|Awesometrainer]] 00:54, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
:The countdown tags work even after the time has passed. I tried to make it work here, but it didn't so you can see it in the WiKirby Sandbox [http://wikirby.info/wiki/WiKirby:Sandbox here] [[User:Axiomist|Axiomist]] 06:12, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
::It works fine, actually. See this:
<div style="padding: 0.5em;">
<div id="countdown" style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS', sans-serif; font-size: 150%; text-align: center; border: 1px solid #999; background: white; padding: 0.5em; display: none;">
<div id="countdown-big" style="line-height: 100%; font-size: 250%;"></div>
<div id="countdown-small" style="line-height: 120%;"></div>
<div id="countdown-target" style="font-size: smaller; line-height: 120%;"></div>
</div>
<countdown id="1" year="2010" month="9" day="18" tz="JST (BW release)" tzoffset="+9" />
</div>
It stops when it's past. (it even says "Past")--'''[[User:Immewnity|''immewnity'']][[User talk:Immewnity|the]][[Special:Contributions/Immewnity|mew]]''' 17:59, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
::Looks like everyone's right about everthing being released at the same time this year, Halo: Reach is released on the 14th of September. [[User:Thermorules123|Thermorules123]] 08:46, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

== Message of the Editor Update! ==

Hey admins, the current message of the editor is getting old now because the admins registration thingy is over now and a lot of changes have been made as well. Along with that, the message was posted on April 22 and it's 1st June today. So, isn't it the right time to change/upadte it? Thank you. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 09:02, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
:Sorry, my bad. I meant message '''from''' the editor. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 09:03, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
::I was thinking about that the other day. June 1 is a good day for a new message, so I've updated it. Read it and then do what it says, people. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 13:03, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
:::Ah, read the new message and it's perfect. I'll try my best to contribute as much as I can. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 14:07, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

== Across the Board? ==

I was testing out disambiguation pages due to a previous discussion (that I'm sure we are all very aware of). And the [[Ralts]] page jumps straight to the species, whereas the [[Geodude]] page doesn't. Are we going to do this with all Pokémon with only minor roles in the anime etc? Or should we have a disambiguation page for all Pokémon? Sorry if I have missed a previously discussed topic on this. Regards from [[User:Samjohn95|Sam]][[User talk:Samjohn95|john]][[Special:contributions/Samjohn95|95]] 11:51, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
:The disambiguation page is because there are multiple ''important'' Geodude in the series, notably [[Brock's Geodude]]. There are no important Ralts in the series (Max's Ralts was recently merged with Max's article). So where there may be confusion, we disambiguate at the Pokémon's name, and where there isn't confusion, we redirect. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 12:04, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
:: Ah, ok. That makes sense. Well, it is just good to have a reason. I didn't know that the "Max's Ralts" had been merged into [[Max]]'s article. Thanks for clearing this up! [[User:Samjohn95|Sam]][[User talk:Samjohn95|john]][[Special:contributions/Samjohn95|95]] 12:08, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
:::Also don't link to the plain species name pages or we'll cause great harm to you via your talk page. Use the {{template|p}} OR ELSE D: '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 21:23, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

== Aline ==

I would prefer the text of the main page to aline left. In the past week or so, the text has become alind center and I think aline left is better. (I don't know why, but it seems that my grammar messed up. Forgive me.)--[[Trainer stars|☆]][[User:Tobytse99|Toby]][[User talk:Tobytse99|Tse]][[Trainer stars|☆]] 05:44, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
:I don't know why, but it just turned to aline left again. Please ignore me. lol--[[Trainer stars|☆]][[User:Tobytse99|Toby]][[User talk:Tobytse99|Tse]][[Trainer stars|☆]] 05:47, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

== Perhaps add hover text? ==

Perhaps you can add hovertext to the articles. aka if you say hover the mouse over the Chimchar article's Blaze ability, it'll make a little window apear with details on the ability (in this case, ups fire-type moves in a pinch), as well as attacks and other things.
--[[User:CloudHiro|CloudHiro]] 18:24, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
:That's kinda why they're links. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 21:24, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

== Let me guess...(locking) ==

The problem was related to an adnormally high job queue. Am I right? [[User:TruePikachu|--TruePikachu]] 04:32, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
:nope.
:btw, non-main page related conversations should go to the forums. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 04:37, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
::I thought this talk page was for discussing the whole of Bulbapedia. Or at least most people seem to use it for that... [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 19:26, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
:::It is, but not in the sense of somebody asking nearly every time we get a lock-down why it happened. There's always an explanation, but people either aren't on during the week or two that it's on the top message/message from the editor, or they just don't bother reading it even though they see it. And I'm not trying to say anything about TruePikachu, I'm just saying what I've seen. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 04:39, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

== Uh.... ==

...Why am I seeing Bidoof all over the main page? - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 01:06, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
:It's Canada day according to server time. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jel]][[User Talk:Jello|lo]] 01:07, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
::Why Bidoof? --[[User:Jonouchi|Jonouchi]] 01:14, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
:::Bidoof's a beaver and beavers are our national animal (or, at least, commonly associated with it. I can't remember which).--[[User:Skystar|Skystar]] 01:21, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
::::Could we perhaps get at least a few of those changed to Bibarel cause Bibarel looks like a beaver but Biddof is just a stupid gerbilley-beaver thing. Stantler might not hurt either...--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 03:28, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
:::::Bidoof is fine. This layout is super cute! :) btw skystar it is defs the national animal --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 06:01, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
::::::June 2's [[Ruby (Adventures)]]'s birthday. We better have something for that.--'''[[User:Immewnity|''immewnity'']][[User talk:Immewnity|the]][[Special:Contributions/Immewnity|mew]]''' 17:36, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
:::::::If that's the case, we're a month late.--[[User:Phantomjunkie|Phantomjunkie]] 18:07, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
::::::::July... FAIL. Sorry, it's July.--'''[[User:Immewnity|''immewnity'']][[User talk:Immewnity|the]][[Special:Contributions/Immewnity|mew]]''' 20:32, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
Also,The 4th is the 4th of July (aka America`s B-Day).Shouldn`t there be something for this materof nature.[[User Talk:LucarioWolf|'''Lucario''']][[User:LucarioWolf|'''Wolf''']] 18:00, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
:I agree, though I'm not sure which Pokémon would best suit the layout. There aren't exactly any that closely resemble bald eagles, the most recognizable symbol of our country. The closest I can think of would be Pidgeot, or maybe Starraptor or Swellow. --[[User:Phantomjunkie|Phantomjunkie]] 18:06, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
::Someone could edit a Pidgeot sprite to have a white head! [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 21:01, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
:::Guys, shut up about the main page theme, seriously. This isn't what this talkpage is for.
:::Of course there's something in the works for Independence Day. Not for Ruby's birthday, though - do we ever do anything for any ''other'' characters' birthdays?? [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 21:30, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
::::(only answering for the question; I'll stop talking here after) Actually, something was done for Mewtwo's birthday. [[User:Turtwig A|Turtwig's]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A-B-Cs]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 21:39, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
:::::If I followed Adventures at all... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:20, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

== Letters to an Absent Father ==

Reading about the Letters to an Absent Father comics on Bulbanews, do you think the series deserves a Bulbapedia article? I know it's fan-made but there are other fan-made things which have articles, like websites and so on. Just thought I'd ask here first, rather than going ahead and starting the article. [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 21:03, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
:I'm not sure whether it merits it's own article or not, but if you think it does, feel free to start one in your user space to see how it will turn out. And from there we can see if it's right for the mainspace or not. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jel]][[User Talk:Jello|lo]] 21:48, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
::I don't think it does. I didn't even know about it until that news article came out. We do things that are very well known. I agree that the strip is a great read, but that's about as far as I'll go for it. And this is coming from somebody who goes around asking for people to recommend Pokémon web comics. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 22:48, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

== Almost-invisible events ==

Why are the Current Events written in teal on a blue background? They're almost impossible to read. --[[User:HeroicJay|HeroicJay]] 01:44, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
:July 4th, Independence Day (for the US). The colors should be back to normal shortly after this event is over. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jel]][[User Talk:Jello|lo]] 01:47, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
::I wasn't expecting Voltorbs and Electrodes to represent the colors, but it's fine. The almost-impossible-to-see events are kinda annoying though. [[User:Fudgenuggets|Fudgenuggets]] 03:33, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
:::It's only for 20 more hours, and it's nothing that you won't see when this is over. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 03:51, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
::::If you highlight the text it should make it legible. Might be an idea to choose a different text colour next time though. [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 10:20, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
:::::I'm saying exactly what I just said. It will be over in less than a day. It's still all there. It will be there tomorrow. It was there before the colors were changed. You can read it tomorrow if you can't today. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 14:40, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
:Why did you choose Pidgeot for the representation of the Bald Eagle? Staraptor would have been a better choice... [[User:PDL|PDL]] 18:21, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
::If you look at the bottom of the page, we have both... '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 01:32, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

== new main page ==

What is with the new page it looks weird. --[[User:Breawycker|Breawycker]] 14:08, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

It's independence day according to server time. It'll be changed back in 8 hours. --Dimomarg 15:58, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

:What a shame Wargle hadn't yet been revealed when that theme was made! [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 12:57, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

== Pokémon Cries ==

Should there be cries of Pokémon on ther pages, from Pokémon like Magikarp to Pokémon like Dialga? --[[User:Chalkwriter|Chalkwriter]] 16:53, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
:Last time we tried putting that in, it kind of majorly broke the server. It's an idea for the future, but right now it's not something that's a priority. ▫▫'''[[User:Tina|ティナ]]'''[[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|★]] 16:58, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
::Perhaps "Cry" should be a sub-category in the Biology section on the Pokémon pages. Until we get the sound files we could add a short description of the Pokémon's cry, as well as their cry in the anime (for example, how the Pokémon breaks up the syllables in its name and what kind of voice it has). [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 19:45, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
:::I don't really see how we can describe most of the cries in the games aside from "digital crackling noise" or pointing out which ones are similar, or exactly the same. Descriptions generally wouldn't be helpful for the Gens I and II Pokémon. ~~ '''[[User:Scyther Be Awesome|Scyther Be Awesome!]] [[User talk:Scyther Be Awesome|Talk!]]''' 02:49, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
::::Porygon's cry is "dee doo doodle duh". '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:15, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
::::: Could we host the cries on an external site and link to them? --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 05:27, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
we could do that and put it on external links or have a section called Cries on the biology section with just a link. [[User:Breawycker|Breawycker]] 15:34, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
:Just to say I can get the cries of most Gen III Pokémon but I just need to know the file type we need (e.g. mp3, midi) and how to upload and put the cries onto the site. --[[User:Chalkwriter|Chalkwriter]] 19:14, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
::I've now got four test subjects ready whenever you need them. --[[User:Chalkwriter|Chalkwriter]] 20:36, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
:::We have the cries. I want to implement them. Archaic would, too. But. Problem. Last two times we tried to make them work, the site ''exploded''. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:15, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

== Before anyone says anything ==

{{wp|Tanabata}}. So don't ask. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 05:45, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
:What's up with the main pa-. Oh. --[[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''☆''']][[User:CoolPikachu!|'''Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''Pikachu!''']] 05:46, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
::BLUE ON BLUE... Can't read ANYTHING!!!--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 06:03, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
:::{{tt|It's looking awesome to me.|Wow, Japanese festivals are so cool.}} ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 06:20, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
::::It looks great! I had a feeling it might be something to do with stars. Perhaps a message should be added to the Main Page on special occasions (eg "Happy Tanabata!") so these discussions don't have to be made every time the page changes... [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 14:25, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
:::::THAT... is an excellent and super-obvious idea that someone should have thought of and implemented years ago. --[[User:LaprasBoi|LaprasBoi]] 17:12, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
:??? Is it really Tanabata? I know it is celebrated on the 7th night of the 7th month, but I thought it was in some calendar other than the Gregorian. --[[User:LaprasBoi|LaprasBoi]] 17:12, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
::So it's only for some Japanese festival, and not a really bad interpretation of celebrating Bungie Day? You all sadden me :( '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 18:59, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
:::Yeah, Taromon's got a good idea. Might spare us approximately 36 bazillion "wat is with the main page" comments every time the main page commemorates anything... --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 20:34, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
::::It's been brought up several times, but the people who can actually do something about that have conveniently seemed to ignore it in favor of something more important or something. idk. Believe me, I and a whole lot of the other admins want that just as much as anyone else. :V [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 05:11, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
:::::Through life experience, I've found people will ignore such warnings anyway. We're going to have to make the warning super-obvious. I think it would be nice if it were to replace the "welcome to Bulbapedia" bit with the celebration and a link to its page on wp. Other than that, I'd love it. I was really lost when the most recent design popped up. ~~ '''[[User:Scyther Be Awesome|Scyther Be Awesome!]] [[User talk:Scyther Be Awesome|Talk!]]''' 10:24, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
why wasn't this put on my talk section (new main page)? [[User:Breawycker|Breawycker]] 15:35, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
:...Because I had absolutely no reason to hijack your section about the 4th of July color scheme for explaining the Tanabata color scheme. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 15:41, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

== BLACK AND WHITE FEATURES REVEALED ==

i found out the features of black and white on the link below ask ttechidna to put the features on bulbanews, but ask ttechidna to also put my name on the article for discovering this.

http://www.pocketmonsters.net/ib/threads/1551
--VulcanFox 21:00, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
:*Jello is already almost done with the article, besides TTE runs Bulbapedia, not Bulbanews.
:*It's been known for a while
:*You didn't discover it, CoroCoro discovered it, so your name won't be on the article. If you want your name on an article, write an article.--[[User:RexRacer|'''Rex]][[User talk:RexRacer|Racer''']] 21:04, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

== Main Page ==

Why's the main page all grey/silver? --[[user:Billyt506|Bill]][[Special:Contributions/Billyt506|t]][[User talk:Billyt506|506]] 18:57, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
:Countdown to Black and White's release in September. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 18:59, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
In Japan, that is. Not America. *Sigh* [[User:Flyingtypefan|Flyingtypefan]] 01:15, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
Oh, and for what it's worth, i knew someone would comment on the main page. [[User:Flyingtypefan|Flyingtypefan]] 01:17, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
:Of course it's Japan. Did Psy say it was America? —♥ [[User:Jello|Jel]][[User Talk:Jello|lo]] 01:26, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
Well, no, he didn't specify anything. Just thought i would eliminate confusion for people who haven't been following the B/W news and don't know its actual release date in America/Europe/wherever else. [[User:Flyingtypefan|Flyingtypefan]] 06:46, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

Tell me we aren't going to set up Generation V learnsets until it comes out in America, at least not on the default page?--[[User_talk:Jack Harkness|J.Harkness]] 04:56, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
:Why wouldn't we do that? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:18, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
::Well, I think most people using this site will be holding out for the english language versions, save for the extreme fans. It seems like it'd just be an inconveinience for most readers.--[[User_talk:Jack Harkness|J.Harkness]] 05:42, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
:::How would it be an inconvenience to have advance knowledge of games? I'm not saying we're doing this to encourage imports... but... what. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:47, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
::::Not to mention that there are already people planning their teams for the English versions of the game in their userspace... <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 05:57, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
:::::No, I'm not saying we don't include them at all, I just think it's more conveinient for readers if we put the Gen V learnsets on a seperate page like the old ones are until they come out in English. That's all.--06:10, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
::::::How is it an inconvenience to English speaking user to have them on the Pokémon pages? Because it would definitely be an inconvenience to everyone who wants to see them to have them as subpages. If you don't want to see that kind of stuff, you'll probably want to evacuate the internet for the next six or so months. The learnsets, and other similar info, will be everywhere. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 06:35, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
:::::::? I'm not saying we try to hide them as if they were spoilers. I'm saying that most of the English speakers using the site ''will'' want to see the Gen V learnsets, but they'll still mainly be coming to look at the Gen IV learnsets for the Pokemon they have now. When Generation V comes out, the vast majority of players will still be in IV until V comes out in english. I was talking about having them on the default page this whole time and never specified that. :-) Sorry for the confusion.--[[User_talk:Jack Harkness|J.Harkness]] 00:28, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Considering the fact that we're planning to put them ''all'' on subpages, and then have a javascript flipper thing in the header, there's nothing to worry about. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:07, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

== Bulba-Chrome Glitch ==

Hey admins, have a look at [http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/979/bulbachromeglitch.png this]. I was trying to discuss with you about this earlier but... Anyway, I don't know what's the problem but I am facing this glitch/problem when I open bulbapedia in Google Chrome. As you can see, the template is overlapping the image below; however it's perfectly fine in other browsers (firefox and opera, more specifically). So, anything wrong with the template or chrome is the cause? ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 12:32, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
:I fixed the template that was causing this. It's a common problem we have with templates like this, that makes it appear like that in Chrome. If you see anything like this again, don't hesitate to let me know. Thanks. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jel]][[User Talk:Jello|lo]] 05:08, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
::My pleasure, it's looking perfect now. I'll inform you whenever I notice something like this. Thanks for the help. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 08:46, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
:::Hey, I've got another one with a slight different problem. [http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/9621/chromeglitch.png This one] is kind of broken into two parts. One part is downward and the remaining body is in the next column. Thank you. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 10:06, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
::::Yeah, that's a common glitch on all browsers, but it's always like that. Someone needs to fix that. [[User:Pokemonemerfan1954|Pokemonemerfan1954]] 14:50, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
:::::That glitch has been known for a while. I'm not sure how to fix that one, since it uses CSS3 columns, I have told TTEchidna to look into it since he was the one who made that template. But for now, there's no real fix for it. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jel]][[User Talk:Jello|lo]] 19:19, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
::::::Oh, I got it. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 03:47, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
:::::::That one's not a glitch, per say, more of a "using coding that only one browser supports at the moment" problem. I was going to work in a workaraound for it a while ago, but forgot to do so; I'll try to get something figured out when I have a bit of free time. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 21:14, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Ok, thanks for the help. I hope that it will be fixed soon. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 15:21, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

== Userpage deletion tags ==

I've just noticed that several userpages, including my tag page and Takhari's, were marked for deletion. I can't find the addition of it in the history, but does anyone know what's going on? [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 20:12, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
:Never mind, I found the problem. [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 20:14, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
::For what it's worth, [[User talk:Jello#Userspace edits|I believe Takharii is cleaning out her userspace]]. --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 20:18, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

== Prof. Araragi Userbox ==

Um, why is there a Userbox with Professor Araragi as the picture that says, "Seatbelts, everyone!"? Is it some kind of Magic School Bus reference? 'Cause Professor Araragi doesn't even ''look'' like Miss Frizzle! Wrong hairstyle, wrong dress style, wrong EVERYTHING! Please remove it! [[User:Magikarp123193|magikarp123193]] 15:16, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
:They look similar to some people. Just because it doesn't seem so to you, doesn't mean it should be removed. [[User:Turtwig A|Turtwig's]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A-B-Cs]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 15:20, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
::Userboxes are in no way official anything; they're simply boxes that users use. Much in the same way that I'm allowed to write "Ash looks like Harry Potter" on my userpage without endangering the reputation of Bulbapedia as a whole, other users are allowed to use userboxes that allude to Prof. Araragi slightly resembling Miss Frizzle, even if they look nothing alike. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 19:00, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

== Apple Safari ==

I'm using Apple Safari to edit here most of the time. Earlier today, the site was fine visually. After about 17:00 '''UK time''', however, no pages seem to be loading properly. For example, the box around the contents does not appear. There is no logo in the top left, and the time, Bulbasaur icon and links that usually appear in the top right have moved to where the search bar usually is. I've tried opening pages in Lunascape and Opera, they seem to work fine. Is it a problem with Safari or are the pages formatted in a way that doesn't work correctly? Also, is this the right page to bring to issue to attention, or is there another place where this should be instead? [[User:FrozenStrategy|FrozenStrategy]] 17:31, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

== Skins ==

Are there any alternate skins like on Wikipedia and other wikis? --[[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 22:14, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
:There were, but they broke the wiki. Until they are fixed, they have been disabled.
:In the meantime, just play around with your monobook. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 22:17, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

My CSS broke. Can anyone fix it? Thanks! [[User:Shiny Noctowl/monobook.css]] --[[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 22:26, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

== Timer Roundness ==

The Main Page's timer isn't round. Is there a reason behind it or did someone just forget to put roundy in with the countdown? [[User:Malake256|Malake256]] 06:19, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
:Fixed. The countdown itself is just a template which is modified with parameters on the main page itself, so it hadn't actually been edited since roundy was implemented, and was still using plain moz border code. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 06:26, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

== New Month? New Message from the Editor? ==

August is almost here, and it's been a little more than a month since the last message!! I think it's time to updated it instead of updating the top of the page^ --[[User:Landfish7|Land]][[User talk:Landfish7|fish]]'''7 18:14, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

:If you guys really have nothing to say, it'd be nice to promote the little wikis. They really lack editors [[User:Malake256|Malake256]] 18:27, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Main Page/Archive 10

2010-07-26T06:19:43Z

Malake256: /* Timer Roundness */ new section

Conway

2010-07-16T19:37:29Z

Malake256: /* Characteristics and history */

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region=[[Sinnoh]] |
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'''Conway''' (Japanese: '''コウヘイ''' ''Kōhei'') is a recurring character from the {{pkmn|anime}}. His first appearance was in [[DP050|''Tag! We're It!'']] as {{an|Dawn}}'s tag-team partner.

==Characteristics and history==
Conway was shown to be a very smart Trainer. His strategies played an important role in helping himself and {{an|Dawn}} to advance to the finals of the [[Hearthome City Tag Battle Competition]]. 

Conway appears again in ''[[DP088|Camping It Up!]]'' through ''[[DP091|One Team, Two Team, Red Team, Blue Team!]]'' during a four-episode arc at a summer school. During this arc he demonstrates his knowledge about Pokémon as well as an [[HeatTagShipping|attraction]] towards Dawn. He later appears at the end of the opening ''[[The Greatest - Everyday!]]''. 

His most recent appearance is in episode [[DP182]], where it is revealed he is also entering the [[Suzuran Conference]]. In [[DP183]], he passed the first round, then in [[DP184]] he made it through the second and had his third round opponet revealed to be {{Ash}}. He will battle Ash in [[DP185]].

Conway uses very effective strategies, but doesn't improvise much, something that has led to several losses for him. Examples include using {{m|Psychic}} to redirect an attack, using {{m|Protect}} while another Pokémon attacks, and so on.

==Pokémon==
This listing is of Conway's known Pokémon:
{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Conway
|pkmn=Slowking
|type1=Water
|type2=Psychic
|img=Conway Slowking.png
|epnum=DP050
|epname=Tag! We're It...!
|desc={{p|Slowking}} is Conway's main Pokémon. When {{an|Dawn}} first meets Conway, Slowking is with him and Dawn thinks both are creepy, but Conway tells her that Slowking has taken a liking to her. On their first battle, Conway tells Dawn to not worry about defense, so her {{TP|Dawn|Piplup}} uses several moves and Slowking keeps on defending it with attacks like {{m|Safeguard}}. It is later seen again in the [[Pokémon Summer Academy]] where it showed off some impresive moves agaist [[Jessie's Yanmega]].

Slowking's known moves are {{m|Safeguard}}, {{m|Protect}}, {{m|Psychic}} and {{m|Water Pulse}}.}}
{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Conway
|pkmn=Heracross
|type1=Bug
|type2=Fighting
|img=Conway Heracross.png
|epnum=DP052
|epname=Smells Like Team Spirit!
|desc={{p|Heracross}} is first seen in Conway and Dawn's [[tag battle]] against [[Paul]] and {{Ash}}. Immediately Ash tells [[Ash's Infernape|Chimchar]] to focus on attacking Heracross with {{type2|Fire}} attacks. However Chimchar is countered by [[Dawn's Buizel]] many times. Paul also once commanded his [[Paul's Electabuzz|Elekid]] to attack Heracross, without any result, however. Heracross was finally taken down by a direct hit from Chimchar's {{m|Flamethrower}}.

Heracross's known moves are {{m|Revenge}}, {{m|Feint}}, and {{m|Megahorn}}.}}
{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Conway
|pkmn=Aggron
|type1=Steel
|type2=Rock
|img=Conway Aggron.png
|epnum=DP051
|epname=Glory Blaze!
|desc=Not much is known about Conway's {{p|Aggron}}. It is seen battling a {{p|Tauros}} and a {{p|Granbull}} along with [[Dawn's Pachirisu]]. }}


===Temporary===
{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Conway
|pkmn=Venonat
|type1=Bug
|type2=Poison
|img=ConwayVenonat.png
|epnum=DP088
|epname=Tag! We're It...!
|desc={{p|Venonat}} was first seen in ''[[DP088|Camping It Up!]]'' where it was temporarily used in the [[Pokémon Summer Academy]]. It was used in a battle against a {{p|Grimer}}, {{an|Dawn}} was temporarily using. After Grimer used {{m|Poison Gas}} as a [[Counter Shield]], the battle ended in a draw.

Venonat's know moves are {{m|Psychic}}, {{m|Stun Spore}}, and {{m|Screech}}.}}
{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Conway
|pkmn=Dugtrio
|type1=Ground
|img=Conway Dugtrio.png
|epnum=DP091
|epname=One Team, Two Team, Red Team, Blue Team!
|desc={{p|Dugtrio}} was first seen in ''[[DP091|One Team, Two Team, Red Team, Blue Team!]]'' where Conway used it in the first leg of the Triathlon of the [[Pokémon Summer Academy]]. Conway used it to dig an underground tunnel.

Dugtrio's only known move is {{m|Dig}}.}}
{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Conway
|pkmn=Floatzel
|type1=Water
|img=Conway Floatzel.png
|epnum=DP091
|epname=One Team, Two Team, Red Team, Blue Team!
|desc={{p|Floatzel}} was first seen in ''[[DP091|One Team, Two Team, Red Team, Blue Team!]]'' where Conway used it in the second leg of the Triathlon of the [[Pokémon Summer Academy]]. He used it to dive underwater.

Floatzel's only known move is {{m|Dive}}.}}

==Badges==
*Eight unknown badges (Prior to [[DP182]])

==Voice actors==
{{vatable|color={{psychic color}}|bordercolor={{psychic color light}}
|ja=三戸耕三 ''Kōzō Mito''
|en=[[Billy Regan]]
|es_eu=Roberto Cuenca Rodríguez Jr.
|es_la=Irwin Dayaán ([[DP050]]-[[DP052]]) Gabriel Ortiz ([[DP088]]-[[DP091]])
|he=שרון בורגאוקר ''Sharon Borgauker''}}

==Trivia==
* He appears to be based on the [[Super Nerd]] Trainer class.
* Conway is the first [[rival]] that has never revealed any of his badges, either onscreen or off-screen.

===Names===
{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #88a; border-collapse: collapse;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #ccf;"
! Language
! Name
! Reference to
|-
|Japanese
|コウヘイ ''Kōhei''
|
|-
|English
|Conway
|Sounds similar to Kōhei.
|-
|Korean
|강평 ''Gangpyeong''
|Korean reading of 剛平 ''Kōhei''.
|-
|Chinese
|考平 ''Kǎopíng''
|From 考平 ''Kōhei''.
|}

==External links==
*[http://pokeani.com/chara/s-kouhei.html Kōhei's Profile] on [[Pokeani]] (Japanese)
{{-}}
{{Animecharacters}} 
{{Project Anime notice|no}}

[[Category:Anime characters]]
[[Category:Male characters]]

[[de:Conway]]
[[fr:Conway]]
[[ja:コウヘイ]]
[[pl:Conway]]

This Dream

2010-07-16T19:35:46Z

Malake256: /* Spoilers */

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'''This Dream''' is the opening theme to the seventh season of the English-language Pokémon dub, [[Pokémon: Advanced Challenge]]. It was used from [[AG041]] to [[AG092]].

The opening animation featured footage from the seventh Japanese opening, ''[[Challenger!!]]''. When the opening debuted, it featured many spoilers, listed below.

==Characters==
===Humans===
* {{Ash}}
* {{an|May}}
* {{an|Brock}}
* [[Max]]
* [[Nurse Joy]]
* [[Officer Jenny]]
* [[Drew]]
* [[Jessie]]
* [[James]]

===Pokémon===
* {{p|Pikachu}} ({{op|Ash|Pikachu}})
* {{p|Meowth}} ({{TRM}})
* {{p|Wobbuffet}} ({{op|Jessie|Wobbuffet}})
* {{p|Combusken}} ({{op|May|Combusken}})
* {{p|Beautifly}} ({{op|May|Beautifly}})
* {{p|Skitty}} ({{op|May|Skitty}})
* {{p|Bulbasaur}} ({{op|May|Bulbasaur}})
* {{p|Swellow}} ({{op|Ash|Swellow}})
* {{p|Grovyle}} ({{op|Ash|Grovyle}})
* {{p|Corphish}} ({{op|Ash|Corphish}})
* {{p|Torkoal}} ({{op|Ash|Torkoal}})
* {{p|Forretress}} ({{op|Brock|Forretress}})
* {{p|Lombre}} ({{op|Brock|Lotad}})
* {{p|Mudkip}} ({{op|Brock|Mudkip}})
* {{p|Roselia}} ({{op|Drew|Roselia}})
* {{p|Rayquaza}}
* {{p|Gardevoir}}
* {{p|Hariyama}}
* {{p|Charizard}}
* {{p|Venusaur}}
* {{p|Blastoise}}
* {{p|Spoink}}
* {{p|Torchic}}
* {{p|Medicham}}
* {{p|Loudred}}

==Spoilers==
*The evolution of {{TP|May|Torchic}} into {{p|Combusken}}.
*The capture of {{TP|May|Skitty}}.
*The evolution of {{TP|Brock|Lotad}} into {{p|Lombre}}.
*The capture of {{AP|Torkoal}}.
*The evolution of {{AP|Treecko}} into {{p|Grovyle}}.
*The evolution of {{AP|Taillow}} into {{p|Swellow}}.
*The capture of {{TP|May|Bulbasaur}}.

==Lyrics==
<ab>''Pokémon!

Every {{pkmn|Trainer}} has a choice
To listen to that voice inside.
I know the {{pkmn|battle}} may be long,
Winners may have come and gone -
but I will carry on!

Yeah, this dream will last forever,
This dream will never die,
We will rise to meet the challenge every time.
([[Pokémon: Advanced Challenge|Advanced Challenge]])
Yeah, this dream keeps us together,
This shows that you and I -
Will be the best that the world's ever seen,
Because we always will follow this dream!

Pokémon!''</ab>

==In other languages==
* German: '''{{tt|Dieser Traum |This Dream}}'''
* Danish: '''{{tt|Drømmenes Land|The Land of Dreams}}'''
* Hebrew: '''החלום''' ''{{tt|hakhalom|The Dream}}'''
* Portuguese
** Portugese (Brazilian): '''{{tt|Esse Sonho|This Dream}}'''
** Portugese (European): '''{{tt|Este Sonho|This Dream}}'''
* Norwegian: '''{{tt|Denne Drømmen|This Dream}}'''
* Spanish:
** Iberian Spanish: '''{{tt|Este sueño |This Dream}}'''
** Latin American Spanish: '''{{tt|Este sueño|This Dream}}'''

{{English Opening Themes}}

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[[de:Unser Traum (Musiktitel)]]

MW

2010-07-15T04:06:44Z

Malake256: Hmm, inline redirects?

'''MW''' could be an abbreviation for two wikis in the [[Nintendo Independent Wiki Alliance]]:
*'''[[Super Mario Wiki|Mario Wiki]]''' one of the founding wikis of NIWA.
*'''[[Metroid Wiki]]''' the second wiki to join NIWA after its creation.
{{disambiguation}}

MW

2010-07-14T23:47:26Z

Malake256: Not tht anyone would evr use this...

#REDIRECT [[Metroid Wiki]]

Talk:Charizard (Pokémon)

2010-07-14T22:15:22Z

Malake256: /* HeartGold/SoulSilver Sprites */

==Um, o.O==
"The most spectacular behavior of the Charizard occurs during the breeding season. In the wild, a male in control of a territory will send blasts of fire-breath into the sky. This is a signal to females and rivals alike that the resident male is fit, strong, and confident enough to use his fire for a mere display. When a female accepts the male, the two fly high into the sky, lock talons and plummet into a dizzying dive. They break apart only a few meters from the ground, combining the passion of mating with the thrill of freefall. After the female lays her eggs, the two parents take turns guarding them and keeping them warm with their flame."

Is it just me, or does that passage sound suspiciously like a segment from that Animal Planet special about dragons? Anyone know the one I'm talking about? -- [[User:Umbee|Umbee]] 18:23, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

:Lol. It DOES sound like a show about dragons. XD; [[User:TinaTheKirlia|TinaTheKirlia]] [[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|♪]][[User:TinaTheKirlia/Sandbox|☆]][[Image:Ani281MS.gif]] 18:25, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

So Charizard is a Dragon. [[User:Cerberus|Cerberus]] 09:27, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
:Last time I checked, Charizard was never featured on Animal Planet. -- [[User:Umbee|Umbee]] 12:26, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
::Yeah, I honestly think it should be removed then. This is an encyclopedia for serious Pokémon fans, right? So we should only keep truth. I honestly think that info that can't be reached on the official Pokémon cards, the anime, the movies, or the games should be removed, unless sourced. Hmm, come to think of it, is it a good idea to make a template similar to ''[citation needed]'' tag on Wikipedia? [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 21:09, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
:::I was going to make one myself if nobody else did. XD -- [[User:Umbee|Umbee]] 21:56, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
::::Nevermind, I realized we already have one. <nowiki>{{fact}}</nowiki> is there. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 13:08, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

|; I saw a show on Dragon's once, and i'll pretty sure it said exactly that. It was called "The Last Dragon" [[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 15:57, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Actually, that sounds exactly like what this one kind of seabird does. Excluding the firebreath, of course.--[[User:Shard1697|Shard1697]] 22:33, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
:Bald Eagles do everything listed with the exception of, um...breathing fire. And I'm pretty sure all this stuff was pulled from that Discovery Channel dragon special anyway.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 22:47, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

But pokémon don't lay eggs, do they?Glitchym1[[User:Glitchym1|Mglitch]] 19:37, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

== Jersey Devil ==

Really??? The page on Wikipedia shows the Jersey Devil looking like a skinny horse with bat-like wings. Charizard doesn't really reflect this... ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 02:42, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

WHAT????Glitchym1[[User:Glitchym1|Mglitch]] 19:39, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

== Wonderin' ==

I'm thinking of writing that Charizard is a very known trademark....... I mean, come on, right? You guys would know that it IS a very known Pokémon trademark. So, well, I wrote it on the top part, where it says it's cover appearances........... and it got erased......... Do you guys think it should be written in trivia? I'm just WONDERIN'............. I think I should get you guys' appinions' on this........[[Image:Ani006MS.gif|32px]] [[User:Dragonbeastx|Dragonbeastx]] 03:51, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
:Well, I don't see the point of pointing it out... Articles are written for info on a determined Pokémon species, not its trademarks and stuff like that. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 04:22, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Okay...[[Image:Ani006MS.png‎|32px]]Still Charizard.......He, he.......[[User:Dragonbeastx|Dragonbeastx]] 17:12, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

== Trapinch ==

How is it fail? I did just say that not all Pokemon are introduced in the next generation following when they were designed... The Gastrodons are evidence of that, having been designed in third generation and introduced in fourth. The same is true for Trapinch, which was originally intended to be the pre-evolution of Charizard, but was discarded and reintroduced later on as a Bug type. [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 06:01, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
:Umm... Proof??? --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 06:08, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

:The thing is, they ''said so'' in an interview that Shellos and Gastrodon were initially to be in Gen III. Nothing at all indicates Trapinch is related in any way to Charizard, especially considering the fact that, as the starters, it's highly likely they were among the first evolutionary lines finalized. Pokémon Red and Green came out in 1996, and were being worked on for six whole years beforehand. Ruby and Sapphire came out in 2003. Sure, there's possibility that maybe Trapinch was intended for Gen I, but there's possibility Ambipom was too. There's possibility that Mewthree really exists, and that Missingno. is really a SUPER HYPER LEGENDARYYYYYY. Except not. We didn't even acknowledge Giratina as part of the dragon trio until shortly before Platinum.
:Now, where's this concept art with Trapinch and Charizard together? Hm? Any proof at all? Because going by the Red and Green sprites is just... no.
:And by the way, Trapinch is a {{type2|Ground}}. It doesn't become Ground/Bug until it evolves. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:10, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
::It's Ground/Dragon actually. It never was a Bug-type. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 06:13, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
:::I never said that there was concept art of them together, just concept art that highly suggests a relationship between the two... I also never said I was going by sprites, so I don't know where you got that from, and whether or not it's a Bug type in its first stage or second is semantics and shouldn't be brought up at all. We're not here to argue, but to discuss. [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 06:15, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
::::Can we see it, please? At the moment this sounds kinda.... suspect. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 06:16, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
:::Sh Kenji I knew that... >>
:::Anyway, look at {{wp|File:Euroleon fg02.jpg|this}} and {{wp|File:Distoleon tetragrammicus01.jpg|this}}. That's the antlion in its larval stage and its adult stage. First looks (and acts) like Trapinch, second is like Flygon (even called a "sand dragon" by some because it resembles a dragonfly). '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:19, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

== Preliminary Shot ==

I remember my friend had firered, and he had a charizard and i seem to remember it would attack the oponent upon sending it out, as ash's charizard would. is this true or am i remembering wrong?--[[User:Ben7229|Ben7229]] 16:50, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
:Um... no. There is probably something wrong with the game. [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 16:53, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
::The other possibility is that your friend may have hacked or something. I highly doubt that Firered's coding and programming would so much as ''allow'' that to happen in the first place. [[User:Superbreeder|Super]][[User talk:Superbreeder|breeder]] 20:32, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

== Charizard Picture ==

Hey, is it just me or did the "artwork from FR/LG" picture change? It seems a lot more detailed than before. ----GEN1[[User:Gen1king|KING]] ''([[User talk:TALK]])'' 06:26, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
:[http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:006Charizard.png Yes]. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 03:46, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
::And yet this one is the fanart. Look it up on TPC's and TPCi's online Dexes and you'll see that the previous artwork was in fact the official one. [[User:Pokemon lover|ポケモン]][[User talk:Pokemon lover|あいこうか]] 18:40, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
:::Scratch what I said. I spoke from ignorance. The pics of the artwork are being converted, not altered, so there is no problem with the changes. ;-) [[User:Pokemon lover|ポケモン]][[User talk:Pokemon lover|あいこうか]] 10:13, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

== My fav Pokémon ==
Charizard [[Image:Ani006MS.png‎|32px]] is my favorite Pokémon. If Charizard were real, then it would be cool to fly on one. But hey. Will they change the sprite on Black and White? I like this icon [[Image:Ani006MS.png‎|32px]]! Plz Black and White! Don't delete the amazing Charizard! I hope it's still here in Isshu!
([[User:Charchargrl123|Charchargrl123]] 22:06, 14 July 2010 (UTC))
:This is more suitable for your user page. [[User:Turtwig A|Turtwig's]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A-B-Cs]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 22:10, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

==HeartGold/SoulSilver Sprites==
We have the moving sprites for these images, is there a reason they are not being used? If there is no reason, can someone please put them in place of the static ones. [[User:CoolDudeAl|CoolDudeAl]]
:Because any moving sprites shown on trailers are subject to change. They will only be added once the game is released and someone rips them from the game. [[User:Malake256|Malake256]] 22:15, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

User talk:TTEchidna/Archive Jun-Aug 10

2010-07-14T05:13:34Z

Malake256:

{{User:TTEchidna/Archive}}
The usual, guys. I'd like this talk page to stay until the end of summer. Please bombard the rest of the {{bp|staff}} if it's a question that doesn't require my infinite wisdom. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]'''

==Quick! ==
TTE, please block [[User:Ilovebrock|this guy]] now! [[User:Takharii|<sc>Takharii</sc>]] '''~''' [[User talk:Takharii|<sc>Talk!</sc>]] 08:05, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
:Problem solved. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:13, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

== Berry locations ==

I've made [[User:Werdnae/Sandbox|a template]] for the berry locations. {{DL|User talk:RexRacer|Berries|Rex says he likes it}}, what do you think of it? Also, do you mind if I borrow a little bit of coding and design from your archive template? <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 00:59, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
:I like it, but the roundy needs to be better compacted... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:52, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
::Better compacted? You mean by using {{template|roundyside}} to make the coding smaller, or by making the corner radius bigger? <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 02:21, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
:::By collapsing the borders between the roundy parts, where they combine to be one round thing. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:22, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
::::This better? The border collapse doesn't work with the show/hide, so it doesn't hide anymore. I'm hoping that by trimming the parameters to just what are needed I can fix the display glitches for the ones with just one entry, and I still need to un-small the headers, but other than that it's pretty much done. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 05:53, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
:::::Ooh, that's nice. Maybe colorize the headers differently, though... the green's really gonna clash with the blue infobox. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:41, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
::::::I've changed them to the colours used in the infobox. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 06:56, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Ooh. Well, just keep it on hold for now, okay? If you could get on AIM and assist me with something... we can roll out the new infobox (with some partial revamp in color) sooner... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 07:21, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

== Fossil evobox ==

[[User:MisterE13/Template:Evobox/Fossil|Like it?]]--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 02:23, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
:Eh... A little unneeded... really, it's like putting Bill on Eevee's line. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:52, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
::Although Bill doesn't transform into Eevee... nor is he the only way to get one other than a trade. You are the boss though.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 02:57, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
:::In that case, Rainbow Wing into Ho-Oh, or something like that. We don't need to involve the fossils. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:06, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
:::MisterE13, difference between evolving and "ressurecting" is that they actually clone the Pokémon from fossil, they don't revive fossil itself. It's just like getting Pokémon in exchange for given item...  --[[User:TakeruDavis|TakeruDavis]][[:a:File:TakeruDavis.gif|[1]]] 17:29, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

== I am back for an emergency!! ==
Please Block Yvvans, or whatever, He is hacking like crazy!!!--[[User:Muk-a-matic|Muk-a-matic-Maketh the Muk go round...]] 15:20, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

I meant Yzzans, but please hurry. Please.--[[User:Muk-a-matic|Muk-a-matic-Maketh the Muk go round...]] 15:25, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
:Am I the only admin ''ever''? No. Please, give everyone else a chance while I'm ''asleep''. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:56, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

== RegionInfobox template ==

Hey TTE, {{tt|sorry to bug you|you're gonna kill me soon, aren't you?}}, but what do you think of [[User:Takharii/sandbox#Region infobox|this]]? I really think that the current style is waaaaaay out of date. [[User:Takharii|<sc>Takharii</sc>]] '''~''' [[User talk:Takharii|<sc>Talk!</sc>]] 08:38, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
:Why the white in the label fields? Looks good, though. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:41, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
::Glad you like it. I'll change it to ''(region) color light'', and see how that looks. Thanks! [[User:Takharii|<sc>Takharii</sc>]] '''~''' [[User talk:Takharii|<sc>Talk!</sc>]] 08:43, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
:::Just don't change the fields the parameters go in. Use part of [[User:TTEchidna/RegionInfobox|this]], too... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:47, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
::::Not quite sure what you mean by using [[User:TTEchidna/RegionInfobox|this]], feel free to fiddle around with mine if you wish. Also, how do I make it so we can say "yes" or "no" to the sections from "villians" down? [[User:Takharii|<sc>Takharii</sc>]] '''~''' [[User talk:Takharii|<sc>Talk!</sc>]] 10:22, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
:::::Where'd it go?! '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:10, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
::::::Oops, sorry XD. I moved it: [[User:Takharii/sandbox/regionbox]]
:::::::Like I said, the parameter fields (where Bulbasaur/Charmander/Squirtle and the like go) should stay white, while their labels should be the Kanto light. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 07:57, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

== Ugh... ==

The background color for [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Talk:Pokémon_Black_and_White_Versions#Names_in_other_languages this] should be white, right? If so, then what is interfering here that prevents it from being white? [[User:Pokemon lover|ポケモン]][[User talk:Pokemon lover|あいこうか]] 13:01, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
:What do you mean? It ''is'' white... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:03, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
::I'm not talking about the columns where the entries for the names are located, I'm talking about the rest of the background, which is dark gray... .____.; [[User:Pokemon lover|ポケモン]][[User talk:Pokemon lover|あいこうか]] 12:25, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
:::It's supposed to be like that.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Ho-Oh (Pokémon)|orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Lugia (Pokémon)|ire]] 12:36, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
::::In that case, I apologize for my ignorance and the confusion I've caused. [[User:Pokemon lover|ポケモン]][[User talk:Pokemon lover|あいこうか]] 12:57, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
:::::It's dark gray because you set it at the beginning of the table. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:48, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

== Am I insane? ==

You might think I'm crazy, but just a minute ago, almost three months after HGSS, I encountered a 503. Yes, a 503. I thought, "Am I crazy?" HGSS load is long gone. COuld this be a sign of Gen V load? [[User:TyphlosionBlaze|TyphlosionBlaze]] 03:34, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
:And just when I saved I encountered a 504. Holy shit, what's going on?{{unsigned|TyphlosionBlaze}}
::It happens. The servers are stressed...--[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 03:47, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
:::Welcome to the world of me. The servers are having a little issue lately. We're resolving it as quickly as we can. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:35, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

== You Know Who... ==

... is some vandal that {{u|CoolPikachu!|CP}} blocked, but he uploaded some horrible pics to the archives, can you go delete them now, please? [[User:Takharii|<sc>Takharii</sc>]] '''~''' [[User talk:Takharii|<sc>Talk!</sc>]] 08:21, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
:Apparently already taken care of. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:45, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

== [[User:Takharii/sandbox/regionbox|My Region Infobox]] ==

Who do you want me to bug about it? [[User:Takharii|<sc>Takharii</sc>]] '''~''' [[User talk:Takharii|<sc>Talk!</sc>]] 06:09, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
:Beats me. Looks pretty good; have you tested it? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:12, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
::Yeah I have tested it, but I'm not really sure how to use that yes/no thing thats hides some sections For example, [[Almia]] it doesn't need sections from "Villanous Teams" down, but [[Kanto]] needs every section. Anyone who can fix that is free to do so. [[User:Takharii|<sc>Takharii</sc>]] '''~''' [[User talk:Takharii|<sc>Talk!</sc>]] 07:03, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
:::That'd be some pretty complex code. <nowiki>{{#if:}}s</nowiki> and stuff. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 07:18, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
::::I've put the code on the league and anime seasons parts, because the others seemed like they could be relevant, but it can be copied to the other sections easily enough. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 08:32, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
:::::Ok, I think the infobox is just about ready to rock 'n roll ([[User:Takharii/sandbox/regionbox|Infobox]] • [[User:Takharii/sandbox|Tested here]]). Also, we may need to make either "Guardian color" or "Oblivia color" in order for it to actually work. Supposedly '''{{color|2cb8e9|2cb8e9}}''', '''{{color|17607b|17607b}}''' and '''{{color|7adafd|7adafd}}''', as they're used [[template:Oblivia|here]]. [[User:Takharii|'''たか''']][[User talk:Takharii|'''はり''']][[Special:Contributions/Takharii|'''い''']] 11:00, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

== Anatomy Vs. Physiology ==

I've been reading the Pokemon's physiology but I found it somewhat odd, I'm a medical student and I suggest that the Physiology term should be change in Anatomy because of the fact that when we define physiology, it means more on the function of the body while in anatomy, more on defining or explaining each part of the body...well try to define those.. just a suggestion but more on facts.ahmm another if we will use physiology it should be partnered with anatomy, meaning... we should put Anatomy and Physiology but if we will put that we need to add more data for all Pokemon, .thanks..--[[User:Gaspershut|''GASPER'']][[User talk:Gaspershut|''shut...'']] 13:25, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
:I know. I know. I know. I know ''I know.'' I've gotten this a bajillion times. Next project after the roundycorners are all fixed is to redo every Pokémon page. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:34, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

== I lost my talk page comment ==

When i posted in the talk page for 44hy regarding trivia, and checked back weeks later, it was gone! When i looked in the history awhile later thinking someone had removed it, it wasn't there! Here is the link: [[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:44Hy&action=history]]. It isn't a big deal, since the trivia was fixed anyway, but it is a very big deal if it was more than just a one-time anomaly. [[User:Flyingtypefan|Flyingtypefan]] 06:23, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
:Maybe you accidentally posted it, tried to save, it looked like it went through, but actually didn't. I dunno. I can't think of where it would have gone. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:48, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

== HEY BOSS, JUST LETTING YOU KNOW ==

WE'VE BEEN MISUSING THE WORD "PHYSIOLOGY" IN THE POKEMON PAGES. WE SHOULD PROBABLY CHANGE THAT.

JUST THOUGHT YOU'D WANT TO KNOW. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 17:59, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
:WE'RE NEVER CHANGING IT. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:26, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

== Re: O Hay ==

He had the same IP as me? I'm not related to him, this is my only account. I wonder if he's got my IP address by hacking my computer, you sure of his IP, the same as me? --[[User:Ruixiang95|Ruixiang95]] 11:09, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
:Two of them were. Maybe it's due to a dynamic IP allocation, but I dunno. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:29, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

== Project Fandom ==

I can't edit the Leaders page, so I need my name added [[Bulbapedia:Project Leaders|here]]. ~[[User:$aturn¥oshi|'''''$aturn''''''''''¥oshi''''']] [[User talk:$aturn¥oshi|THE VOICES]] 22:30, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
:Done. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:51, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
== Hi ==
I'm new. Want to be my friend? '''~~[[User:Staryou |Star]][[Special:Contributions/Staryou|★]][[User_talk:Staryou|you]]''' 03:15, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
:Well, I'll give you points for being straightforward. You're definitely on the right track here and with your edits. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:42, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

== List_of_Pokémon_by_ability ==

could you please add the {{Template|Lop/ability}} in the list, i get database errors

@ditto group: i have infos that is possible to get a new ditto from 2 other in GSC, i have a image from the offical game guide --[[User:Hanmac|Hanmac]] 09:14, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
:Damn database errors. They're not being kind to me either.
:And I've tried Ditto breeding in GSC. Doesn't work. Official game guides have been known to contain some failings, such as the "?" legendary Pokémon in Mt. Silver. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 09:18, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

==Hello==
Hi TTE - it's me, RAP. I woke up earlier than 12pm (but right now it's 1:45pm), would you mind come into Skype for the continuation of chatting? --[[User:RAP|RAP]] 20:45, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

:Ey! TTE! Come to chat! We got work to do! And oh - check the forums. --[[User:RAP|RAP]] 02:40, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

::TTE. You know what to do. --[[User:RAP|RAP]] 05:53, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

:::*thud!* --[[User:RAP|RAP]] 23:41, 7 July 2010 (UTC) ...you didn't get the message? :( --[[User:RAP|RAP]] 01:18, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

== Username change request ==

From Pokemon lover to BlueMew, if possible, please! Thanks in advance, TTE! =) [[User:Pokemon lover|ポケモン]][[User talk:Pokemon lover|あいこうか]] 21:10, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
:You haven't had this done before, correct? No going back if it changes... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:43, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
::Yeap, it's my first time. And I'm sure of the change I'm requesting. ^^ [[User:Pokemon lover|ポケモン]][[User talk:Pokemon lover|あいこうか]] 17:16, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

== Rival parties ==

Should we use the official BP colours (like the infoboxes) in the rival party boxes as well? Also, could we please move [[Elder]] to Li, fitting with the other one-off Trainer classes? {{unsigned|MisterE13}}
:What. What do you mean by that? Also, for the one-off Trainer classes, I had a different idea going... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 21:38, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
::Like ditching the red-green-blue colour scheme for {{ga|Blue}} in favour of all blue. Same goes for most other rivals who use all the game colours of their generation.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 21:54, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
:::Blue MOTHERF****** Oak is too important, he needs special colors! (Jk)
:::But in all seriousness, what's wrong with the current coloring? [[User:Pokemon lover|ポケモン]][[User talk:Pokemon lover|あいこうか]] 22:04, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
::::Oh, you mean for Blue and such.
::::Yeah. I never liked the multi-version-color thing we did. Barry keeps his scheme, though. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:24, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
:::::Ok, I got it now. I agree, we should put their official BP colors, as he [MisterE13] referred. And just to avoid any confusions, Blue will keep the blue coloring, right? Despite his room in HGSS being all greeny and stuff... [[User:Pokemon lover|ポケモン]][[User talk:Pokemon lover|あいこうか]] 22:30, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
::::::His name's Blue, he'll be blue. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:06, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
:::::::I know that, it was just to clear up ANY remaining doubts. xD [[User:Pokemon lover|ポケモン]][[User talk:Pokemon lover|あいこうか]] 17:18, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

== Silver ==

2 questions.
*1. Why is Silver protected?
*2. Why do most of the templates in the Trivia section and beyond act like links instead of templates? '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 22:48, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
:Both, something broke. It overran the template include size. We're gonna resolve it ASAP. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:57, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
::Was it because of all the different Roundy templates? Are you going to simplify it back? '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 01:37, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
:::It's because roundy was used too much within component templates, yes. We're solving the issue right now. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:51, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

== Mistake ==

Ok my mistake on whatever it is I did but I have my reasons. 1: My computer keys were jamed so I could rarely put what I wanted on the article correctly. 2: Something was wrong with my computer because for some reason when I write a lot of things it freezes but I could still write so I just continue to write so I'm sorry for whatever it is I did as I was saying before that's my bad sorry, but everything's fixed so there shouldn't be anymore problems.--[[User:Crimsontrainer15|Crimsontrainer15]] 03:27, 4 July 2010 (UTC)Crimsontrainer15
:Well, maybe you should have less things open at once. That usually causes a lot of slowdown. Browser? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:32, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

Uhh sure thanks I'll keep that in mind but that problem has been happening for a while now but thanks for the advice. Now uhh I'd hate to ask you about this but for some reason I get the feeling(though we never met) that well...you hate my guts and uhh yeah...do you?--[[User:Crimsontrainer15|Crimsontrainer15]] 05:38, 4 July 2010 (UTC)Crimsontrainer15
:Only your grammar. Shape it up. You write way too nervously. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:09, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

Uh right I hear you alright I'll work on that but half of it was about the technical difficulties so yeah but you know thanks um anyway um do you give out your name to people? If not it's good to meet you anyway I'm Andre.--[[User:Crimsontrainer15|Crimsontrainer15]] 06:32, 4 July 2010 (UTC)Crimsontrainer15
:My name can be found here and there. It's quite obvious what it is, at least. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:49, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
::He asked what browser you're using. If you're using IE, download FF, Opera, or Chrome. They are all good browsers.

== Sockpuppet ==

{{u|Wuizel}} is a sockpuppet of {{u|Wiuzel}}, block if you wish =D [[User:Takharii|'''たか''']][[User talk:Takharii|'''はり''']][[Special:Contributions/Takharii|'''い''']] 06:11, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
:No malicious activity yet. Must've been just an F-up. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:27, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
::Just thougn I'd let ya know. And my region infobox is just about done to. [[User:Takharii|'''たか''']][[User talk:Takharii|'''はり''']][[Special:Contributions/Takharii|'''い''']] 06:28, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
:::Just on time, it seems. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:50, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
:::: I'm bored, can I replace the old one? Pwetty pwease? [[User:Takharii|'''たか''']][[User talk:Takharii|'''はり''']][[Special:Contributions/Takharii|'''い''']] 08:31, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
:::::Not yet. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:42, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

== BulbaBot ==

Hey, over at [[PokéWiki]] we have got a bot named [[:de:User:WikiBot]], which I assume is an instance of [[User:BulbaBot]]. There is an issue with that bot, because when adding interwiki links, he sometimes ends up messing up the order of them, for example, see [http://pokewiki.de/index.php?title=Mijumaru&diff=prev&oldid=328904 here] and [http://pokewiki.de/index.php?title=Tsutaja&curid=36478&diff=314314&oldid=313187 here]. The order they are supposed to be in is en, es, fr, ja, pl, pt. On BulbaBot's page it says to contact Zhen Lin, but '''their''' talk page is protected and tells not to contact them -.- So, uhm, any help on this matter would be much appreciated.--[[User:Afrael|Afrael]] [[User talk:Afrael|talk]] 08:36, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
:I don't think Zhen runs WikiBot... I'll ask Zhen next time I see him. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:41, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

== About the "Pokémon battle" article ==

Any particular reason you got rid of the line about how battles are less commonly known as "Pokémon fights"? - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 22:40, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

: Any particular reason you feel the need to question everyone's edits like that? --'''[[User:Darkeiya|Darkeiya]]''' ''[[User talk:Darkeiya|talk to me!]]'' 00:11, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
::Not everyone's edits. Just the ones that to me don't make sense. And battles are occasionally referred to as Pokémon fights, hence my confusion as to the edit in question. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 00:39, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
:::I would say very rarely, don't feel any need for this to be mentioned. To me it does make sence. --[[User:TakeruDavis|TakeruDavis]][[:a:File:TakeruDavis.gif|[1]]] 00:58, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
::::Name one place in the games or anime where it's called a "Pokémon fight". Yes, even 4Kids's dub counts. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:02, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
:::::I was hoping you'd ask.
*In RBYFRLG, one of the Pokémaniacs in Rock Tunnel says before battling you, "POKEMON fight! Ready, go!".
*In RBY, in Viridian City's school, the kid's notebook's third page says "POKEMON trainers seek others to engage in POKEMON fights.".
*In RBY, on Route 14, a Biker says "POKEMON fight? Cool! Rumble!" before he battles you.
*Not to mention all the usages of the word "fight", most of which are replaced with "battle" in FR/LG. Like Agatha saying "He's wrong! POKEMON are for fighting!".
*Heck, here's a [http://www.gamefaqs.com/gameboy/367023-pokemon-red-version/faqs/48982 link] to R/B/Y's game script! See for yourself! As for the anime, I'll have to check. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 01:42, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
::::::So, does Raichu evolve? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:47, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
:::::::And why does that matter? The script proves my point- that Pokémon battles are sometimes referred to as Pokémon fights. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 12:05, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
::::::::The game script says Raichu evolves. FRLG retconned RGBY. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:23, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

==How do I shot web==
how do i make a section[[User:ArceusLX|arceusLX leveled up!]] 01:36, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
:Wikicode. Basics. Anywhere between one and six equals signs (=) in a row, followed by the section title, followed by an equal number of equals signs.

===See===

====Fouuuur====

=====Five=====
======Six======

More than six won't register properly. See below:
=======See? Nope.=======
Don't use a single equals; it makes it look terrible. For sections that are subsections, use one more equals sign. And please don't be a doop. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:42, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

== HEY! ==

I wanted to get all the logos BEFORE the deck template was made. I do still want the logo in the header. And I would really appreciate it if you didn't add a hell of a lot to my to do list when I already have about 4500 items to do. Let me finish some things first. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 14:26, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
:The deck template's ''been'' made. I just revamped it so it could work with both the theme decks and archetype decks. Plus, missing logos can always be done with a category. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:11, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

== schadowIC ==

i try to make my own schadowic [[File:ShadowIC.gif]], what do you think? --[[User:Hanmac|Hanmac]] 08:03, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
:Did you mean [[Shadow move|Shadow]]? [[User:Takharii|'''たか''']][[User talk:Takharii|'''はり''']][[Special:Contributions/Takharii|'''い''']] 08:07, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
::Damm legastienic .. i uploaded it again without the C, and yes this image is for the shadow moves and shadow pokémon --[[User:Hanmac|Hanmac]] 08:23, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
:::Where's that '''''damn''''' fourth Chaos Emerald? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:33, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

=="AR glitches don't count"==
By AR, I assume you mean action replay, correct? [[User:Felinoel|felinoel]] 01:58, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
:Yeah. No Action Replay. Those are glitches caused by messing with the game and making it do things it can't normally do on purpose. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:28, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
::Ah ok that was what I thought, seeing as how I don't own one I will just undo your edit. [[User:Felinoel|felinoel]] 02:35, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

==Why does this wiki use speculation?==
[[Talk:List_of_Pok%C3%A9mon_by_National_Pok%C3%A9dex_number#Click_here|Most wiki do not care for speculation on their pages though?]] [[User:Felinoel|felinoel]] 02:14, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
:Starter Pokémon. Where else would they fall in the Pokédex? They have established a pattern. They always put the starters first. It'd be like saying it's speculation that you can buy Poké Balls. Speculation that Mario jumps in the next Mario game. Speculation that Link will have a sword in the next Zelda game. It's Pokémon, not politics. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:30, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
::They do indeed always put the starter pokemon first, but assuming that they will continue to do so is speculation, those three pokemon should be grouped with the other not-yet-numbered pokemon because there is no actual place they have been given their numbers. [[User:Felinoel|felinoel]] 02:37, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
:::Fyi Feli, if you haven't checked the [http://www.pokemon-sp.jp/series/bw/?__utma=1.1431848606.1275246740.1278521584.1278643395.20&__utmb=1.4.10.1278643395&__utmc=1&__utmx=-&__utmz=1.1278486148.18.6.utmcsr=park3.wakwak.com|utmccn=(referral)|utmcmd=referral|utmcct=/~pokepale/&__utmv=-&__utmk=82255382#/story/story02.html official black & white site] then I must tell you that they have already confirmed that Pokabu is on #004 on IssuDex which means they are following the same old pattern. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 02:50, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
::::The difference, either way, is that there's ''speculation'' (a new type, a certain number of new Pokémon, what Ash is gonna catch next week, etc.) and "speculation" (starters at 001-009, legendary status of version mascots, Ash's Pikachu's appearance in next week's episode). The first is just wild hopes. The second is pretty much concrete. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:10, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
:::::There is no difference, speculation is speculation, and as for that link... I can't read Japanese... [[User:Felinoel|felinoel]] 05:14, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
::::::You don't have to read Japanese to see "#004" on page 2 :P --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 05:19, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
:::::::I see no numbers on the second page, just the three starters? [[User:Felinoel|felinoel]] 05:32, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
::::::::...you missed Pokabu's Pokédex entry? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:41, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
::::::::(got conflicted) [http://www.pokemon-sp.jp/series/bw/story/story02.items/resources/story.dougu2.png here's just the picture, then] --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 05:43, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::Oh, that is what you meant by second page, I went all the way to the first page and then went to the next page, I didn't think you meant to start where the link started, calling that the first page. [[User:Felinoel|felinoel]] 06:14, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
::::::::::Ok, so only the pig's number is confirmed, as for the other two, it is still speculation. [[User:Felinoel|felinoel]] 06:15, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::::Oh, come on. You know that everything is confirmed and no chance of speculation then why are you pulling useless strings? ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 06:22, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
::::::::::::Just because I indeed '''''know''''' what number these pokemon will be on the pokedex, does not mean that my knowledge is not speculation and thus not wiki material. [[User:Felinoel|felinoel]] 06:33, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
(Resetting indent.) The way we are taking it is not so much that it's confirming Pokabu's number as it's confirming the ''pattern'' of the starter numbers, giving us the other two as well. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 06:41, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::::::The least that could be done is by putting an asterisk next to the number and below putting that it is following the pattern or is speculation or something along those lines. [[User:Felinoel|felinoel]] 06:46, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
:A worthless edit to make, they are practically ''guaranteed'' those numbers. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:58, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
::::::::::::::It may be worthless, but ''that is how wikis work'', if something posted on a wiki is speculation, the least that can be done is a notice of it [[User:Felinoel|felinoel]] 09:03, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
::All I can say, felinoel, is get over it. And if you didn't notice, the indent was reset. Go with the flow man.--[[User:Pokelova|''Poké'']][[User talk:Pokelova|lova!]] 09:13, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::I come to Wikipedia, and other sites based off of it, for facts, when leniency is allowed, that just paves the way for more leniency. Also, I like how it looks with one reset indent and one continued indent, you can't say it doesn't look more interesting. [[User:Felinoel|felinoel]] 09:45, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
:I'm from Wikipedia. Fear me. Or something. As Echy said, "there's [baseless] speculation [...] and there's [justified] speculation". We have justification for the numbering (the Pokabu screen) so it stands.
:P.S. Your indents are damned hard to read. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 09:58, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
::and as felinoel responded, "Speculation is speculation." How is a tiny asterisk next to a number so bad? [[User:Felinoel|felinoel]] 10:04, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
:::Are we suddenly talking about an entirely different series? It's ''still Pokémon''. There's going to be a National Dex listing, or you wouldn't be able to trade the shiny legendary beasts or Celebi forward. People know that the games aren't out yet and that any information on them is tentative. Hell, remember the launch of Gold and Silver? They had most of the game programmed, the starting town was announced as Silent Hills, not New Bark. Would you thus say that it's only speculation that the name of one of the cities you can visit is Hiun? How about all the Pokémon in the lost GS beta, like the little seal thing? None of them get articles, should we delete all the articles on the Pokémon we have from Gen V?
:::We're not Wikipedia. We have our own policies. Anime episode announced, we'll assume that it's the episode after the last one announced, unless they say otherwise. If it ends up not being the case, we'll change it. Unlike Wikipedia, we aren't exactly reporting on real events and real people, for the most part, but a fictional world. Wikipedia's stuff works there, but not here. Tah dah. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:44, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
::::I never said real events or people or things are what is being archived here, but like any other wikia, this Wiki follows the same principles Wikipedia does, and ever since that one guy messed with that article and caused that lawsuit as well as people starting to doubt the authenticity of wikis, the main focus of Wikipedia and its wikias are to only archive what is not speculation. [[User:Felinoel|felinoel]] 03:16, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
:::::Wrong answer, McFly. We're not part of Wikia. Never have been. Never will be. We're proudly part of [[NIWA]], an independent alliance of wikis ''not'' stuck on Wikia's servers, having founded the organization after repeated attempts to be bought out by Wikia. Like I said. We are not Wikipedia. We use MediaWiki, a wiki program. But that does not make us a subsidiary of them. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:29, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
::::::I was in the middle of a thought, so I will still say it. Saying "Wikia" is not the same as saying "wiki". All of wikia is owned by wikipedia, if I remember correctly. Do you see wikia in the url of this site? No! We have different standards, styles, and conventions. Saying "like any other wikia" seriously lowers the credibility of your statements. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 03:33, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Which brings us back on topic to the original point of this discussion, of which it is named, "Why does this wiki use speculation?" [[User:Felinoel|felinoel]] 03:40, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
::::::::We are not using speculation. Pokabu has been confirmed as Isshu Dex #004, which confirms that the starter numbering will be the same as in previous generations. If it's stated otherwise later, we will change it. --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 03:48, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::You should probably just stop arguing. It's quite embarrassing to make this big a deal over nothing. You're digging yourself into a deep hole. Find something more important to do.

:::::::::There's a difference between speculation and just plain obvious. Speculation would be saying that Ash will capture a Mamepato when he gets to Isshu. It's far more unlikely that they would have different dex numbers. It's been the same thing for 14 years. Oh and compared to other wikis, we use far less speculation. Wikipedia and Wikia uses more speculation than we do. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 04:08, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
::::::::::No, for either the third or fourth time, speculation is speculation. Link me to this alleged speculation having on Wikipedia then. [[User:Felinoel|felinoel]] 10:30, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
::::::::::: *sigh* We are not Wikipedia. They are 99.999% guaranteed to have those numbers. If we're wrong, we'll change it. [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 17:59, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
(resetting indent) Felinoel's comment was because Kenji-girl said we had less speculation thank wikipedia/wikia. Oh, and [[wp:List of Pokémon|check this out]]. Wikipedia uses the same speculation as us. Their numbers are under Arceus. [[User:Turtwig A|Turtwig's]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A-B-Cs]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 18:17, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
:Plus, there's also Wikia's article on Chiramii. It claims that Rattata, Sentret, Zigzagoon, and Bidoof are released from the professor's Poké Ball. Totally untrue. RB/FRLG have Nidoran♀, Yellow has Pikachu, GS/HGSS has Marill, Crystal has Wooper, RS has Azurill, Emerald has Lotad, DP has Munchlax, and Platinum I forget. Either way, we're better. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:00, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

== Name Change? ==

Would it be possible to change my username from GreenGyarados to ♫Green♫? Thanks in advance. [[User:GreenGyarados|♫Green]][[Gyarados (Pokémon)|♫ギャラドス♫]][[User Talk:GreenGyarados|Talk♫]] 04:09, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
:You understand that there's no going back, and no changing again, correct? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:44, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
::Yes. I've had this username on BMGf for five months, and it's going to stay. [[User:GreenGyarados|♫Green]][[Gyarados (Pokémon)|♫ギャラドス♫]][[User Talk:GreenGyarados|Talk♫]] 14:40, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

== Emergency! Need assistance! ==
Oh, wait, false alarm. Go back to sleep. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 09:58, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
: He's not asleep yet, he's on the phone with me. Mind your words, Trommy boy. --'''[[User:Darkeiya|Darkeiya]]''' ''[[User talk:Darkeiya|talk to me!]]'' 10:04, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
::I'll come back in an hour or so then. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 10:12, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

== AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH ==
THIS F**KING PIKACHU JUST DELETED MY GAME ARTICLE just as i was creating it!!!!!!!
WHAT IN THE WHOLE WORLD SHOULD I DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
–—[[User:Thelateryears|Thelateryears]] 05:28, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
:I suggest you wait out the block I'm going to give you for breaking the {{bp|code of conduct}} by swearing at another user, and then work productively on games that actually exist when you come back. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 05:33, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
::This is more hilarious than Bawile. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:42, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
:::EXCUSE ME! WHAT IN DIALGA, PALKIA, GIRATINA, AND ARCEUS HAVE YOU DONE TO THIS POOR FELLOW? I AM SERIOUS! LET ME CREATE THE GAME PAGE THELATERYEARS WAS WORKINONG ON AND BLOCK COOLPIKACHU OR BULBAPEDIA MAY NOT SEE THE RELEASE OF BLACK AND WHITE AND YOULL BE CRYING TO KINGDOM COME! DONT TAKE ME LIGHTLY!
--Reshiram and Zekrom 04:01, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
::::I'm sorry, but your signature has to reflect your username, and link back to either your user page or your user talk page. Please conform to this rule as soon as possible. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:06, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
DARE TO TALK TO ME LIKE THAT? HUH?
--Reshiram and Zekrom 04:12, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
:I do indeed. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:14, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
LOVELY... YOU STILL DO HAVE A CHOICE BEFORE I NUKE BULBAPEDIA! --Reshiram and Zekrom 04:16, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
:Yeah, no. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:18, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
:: I like this talk page section. --'''[[User:Darkeiya|Darkeiya]]''' ''[[User talk:Darkeiya|talk to me!]]'' 04:20, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
:::Wow, what is this guy thinking?--[[User:Pokelova|''Poké'']][[User talk:Pokelova|lova!]] 08:39, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
::::This is hilarious. Please, carry on... [[User:Takharii|'''たか''']][[User talk:Takharii|'''はり''']][[Special:Contributions/Takharii|'''い''']] 12:17, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
:::::Seconded. This made my day. [[User:Gizamimi Pichu|'''ギザみみピチュー''']][[User talk:Gizamimi Pichu|''' 話して''']] 13:37, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
::::::Haha yeah, this is too funny wtf. OMG WE HAEV TO SAVE BULBAPEDIA!! :O --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 13:50, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
:::::::This... Pure lol. Did this guy actually think he had a chance of convincing TTE? [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 17:56, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

== An idea for a new project ==

I was told to ask a staff member if i wanted to start a project, so...

How about "project sidegames"? It could aim to write comprehensive articles on the side games/spin-offs/minigames of the Pokemon series. I know we already have "project games", but I've seen subprojects before, and maybe it could be one of those. Is it a good idea? [[User:Flyingtypefan|Flyingtypefan]] 00:17, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
:I'd say it's a good idea. The side games do tend to be ignored under project games. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:20, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
Okay! I'll go start it. [[User:Flyingtypefan|Flyingtypefan]] 00:27, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

== Issue with edits==

Whenver I make an edit on Bulbapedia, such as letting everyone know a Jirachi is being distributed in North America right now (not counting the one about how much I hate the anime; I understand what I did wrong), I check back later and it's no longer there. Can you please explain to me why this is? --[[User:TheAnimeSucks|TheAnimeSucks]] 00:56, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
:It must have been reverted. [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 00:57, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
::But why?--[[User:TheAnimeSucks|TheAnimeSucks]] 01:00, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
:::I took a look at your edit and you can't just have everything in all-caps like that. This is an encyclopedia, and things must be written properly and according to Bulbapedia's style. If you're still having trouble, then read some of the help pages. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jel]][[User Talk:Jello|lo]] 01:03, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
::::Oh, I understand that one now, but I also made an edit on Turtwig's Trivia section about how both it and Bulbasaur are number 001 in their regional Pokédex, and how their evolution families have similar traits, but that one got deleted too. --[[User:TheAnimeSucks|TheAnimeSucks]] 01:07, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
::::If it got removed, then it wasn't notable enough to be considered trivia. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jel]][[User Talk:Jello|lo]] 01:09, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
:::::Trivia, notable? Since when does the definition of trivia involve notability?--[[User:TheAnimeSucks|TheAnimeSucks]] 01:12, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
::::::We don't want pointless trivia scattered across BP. In other words, our definition does. [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 01:16, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
:::::::All trivia is pointless! That's why it's trivia! Also, I thought it was pretty notable for trivia, considering that they're both Grass-type Starters with the same Pokédex number!--[[User:TheAnimeSucks|TheAnimeSucks]] 01:23, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
::::::::We have to draw a line somewhere, or else we can (and will) get trivia sections that are literally pages and pages long. And all grass-type starters are number 001 in their regional Pokedex - thus, not notable. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 01:23, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
::::::::(conflicted) There's interesting trivia and there's crap trivia. That's somewhat what we mean by notable. Also, all Grass-type starters have the same number... [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 01:24, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::Forgot about all Grass starters being first, as the only Pokémon games I've played in a while are Diamond and Red, but no other Starter family has the similarities that they do!--[[User:TheAnimeSucks|TheAnimeSucks]] 01:29, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
::::::::::It's just trivia... No need to freak out about it :) [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 01:31, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::::It's just Cubone, no need to make a username about it!--[[User:TheAnimeSucks|TheAnimeSucks]] 01:34, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
::::::::::::I was just trying to help you. [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 01:38, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::::::CK, no offense but you really haven't been helping much in this discussion at all. Would you mind backing out at this point?
:::::::::::::TheAnimeSucks, trivia has its own notability requirements. I'm not sure if we have an official policy on trivia notability yet, but the trivia in question here is not notable as trivia. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 01:43, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
::::::::::::::Yeah... Sorry. *fades* [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 01:44, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::Sorry for being so rude, CuboneKing. I am also sorry for being an idiot about the trivia, which now that I read it, was pointlesss. I was in a bad mood. [[User:TheAnimeSucks|TheAnimeSucks]] 02:50, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

== Pointout in an article... ==

Hello there. I've tried to edit [[List of original series episodes|this article]] because I've noticed that there was an error on the Japanese title for [[EP006]], but it's still protected. When I hover over the word "Pippi", the text reveals "Cleffa". It should be revealed as "Clefairy", since "Cleffa" didn't appear prior to [[Generation II]]. Just wanted to point this out. 
~~'''''[[User:LDEJRuff|LDE]][[User_talk:LDEJRuff|JRuff]]'''''~~([[Special:Contributions/LDEJRuff|see what I have contributed]]) July 13, 2010, 2:01 (EDT)
:Fixed~ —♥ [[User:Jello|Jel]][[User Talk:Jello|lo]] 06:15, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

== Editing my User Page ==

I noticed that your page had stuff like "WARNING: MEMES" and I wanted to know how to get that, as I also liek Mudkipz, do not know how to shot web, and will never give you up. I would also like to know how to get other sections. Sorry I don't know how to do this, as I'm a noob when it comes to this site, as evidenced by my infamous edit, which, again, I apologize for. --[[User:TheAnimeSucks|TheAnimeSucks]] 03:53, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
:{{bp|Usertags}}. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 04:03, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
::Thank you! --[[User:TheAnimeSucks|TheAnimeSucks]] 04:42, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
It doesn't give specific ones. Are all of TTE's made by TTE? {{unsigned|TheAnimeSucks}}
:Use the category linked at the bottom of that page to find the ones you want. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 05:09, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
::Under See Also it says [[:Category:User tags]], go there and click what you want. What you probably want is [[:Category:Meme tags|this]]. I'm sure he didn't make them all... he's not God... And also, there are [[Bulbapedia:Junior Administrators|other people]] to speak to than TTE, I'm sure he's a pretty busy guy. [[User:Malake256|Malake256]] 05:13, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

User:Malake256

2010-07-14T05:05:49Z

Malake256: Simple Userpage

Hello World.

I am Malake256 here at pedia. Yes, like many of you, I was once a n00by contributor. In fact, I imagine i was a nuisance to patrol out there. You can find that out by looking at my contributions and talk page... But things change :] I'm sure even TTE once new nothing of wiki or pokemon (when he was 3...) Now I am somehow awesome at wiki interface :D. You can find me on {{met|User:Malake256|Metroidwiki}}. Not to brag, but *cough* top contributor/best admin evarr there! (will make userbox for metroidwiki later).

I guess I can be a Bulba-Metroid bridge, if there is ever a need for it. Well, more importantly, I guess, I can serve as a Zelda-Bulba bridge since Metroidwiki and Zeldawiki are pretty closely woven. I have used some of Bulbapedia's stuff as stepping stones for Metroid Wiki, including that quite awesome Roundy (thx TTE! haha). I may not edit much here due to Metroid Wiki, but I still visit often, and use it for stats and news.

If for any reason you'd like to talk to me, go ahead and [[User talk:Malake256|drop it here]] or put it in my {{met|User talk:Malake256|Metroidwiki talk page}} (quicker response).

I luvs pokemon btw :] And I'll show it in userboxes...when i have time...

User talk:OakTreecko

2010-07-07T04:07:58Z

Malake256: Fixing Welcome.

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== DP187 ==

Please don't make an article like that again. I can guarantee you that the staff won't find it amusing and it will most likely get you a block. Thank you...--[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 04:01, 7 July 2010 (UTC)