Pokémon Platinum Version

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Joe9320: Inserted Korean version name.

:''This article is about the [[main series]] game. For the [[Pokémon Special]] character, see {{Special|Platinum}}. For the Trading Card Game expansion, see [[Platinum (TCG)]].''
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{{Infobox_game |
name = Pokémon Platinum Version |
boxart = [[Image:Platinum-box.png|200px]]|
caption = Pokémon Platinum's logo|

caption = Pokémon Platinum's boxart featuring [[Giratina (Pokémon)|Giratina's]] [[Giratina_(Pokémon)#Physiology|Origin Forme]] |
category = RPG |
players = 1-4 players simultaneous |
platform = [[Nintendo DS]] |
Wi-Fi compatible = Yes |
release_date_ja = September 13, 2008 |
release_date_au = May 14, 2009 |
release_date_eu = May 22, 2009 |
release_date_na = March 22, 2009 |
release_date_kr = July 2, 2009 |
publisher = [[Nintendo]]/[[The Pokémon Company]] |
developer = [[Game Freak]] |
esrb = E for Everyone |
website_en = [http://www.pokemonplatinum.com/ Pokémon Platinum Version]|
website_ja = [http://www.pokemon.co.jp/special/platinum/ ポケットモンスタープラチナ] |
}}
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'''Pokémon Platinum Version''' (Japanese: '''ポケットモンスタープラチナ''' ''Pocket Monsters Platinum'') is a sister game to {{game|Diamond and Pearl|s}}, and is the third [[Generation IV]] [[main series]] game. The game was first seen on May 11, 2008 when a low-resolution cell-phone picture of an upcoming issue of [[CoroCoro]] magazine was leaked around the Internet. On May 15, the magazine was officially released and the game was also officially confirmed by Nintendo. The game was released in Japan on September 13, 2008, in North America on March 22, 2009, in Australia on May 14, 2009 and in Europe on May 22, 2009. It currently awaits release in other regions.

Like previous third versions, the region and starting area remain the same, and the player begins their journey from [[Twinleaf Town]] across all of [[Sinnoh]].

==Changes from Pokémon Diamond and Pearl==
===Aesthetic changes===
* {{ga|Lucas}}, {{ga|Dawn}}, and {{ga|Pearl}} have different outfits designed for colder weather, as the entire Sinnoh region has changed in temperature.
* The template for the [[level]], {{stat|Hit Points|HP}}, and name of Pokémon in battle is a dark gray instead of white, and its shape has changed.
* The [[Pokétch]] has been redesigned. Players can now move up and down between apps instead of having to go through all of them to return to a previous one.
* Some of the [[move]]s have been redesigned and have a different animation, such as {{m|Razor Leaf}} and {{m|Spacial Rend}}.
* When Pokémon are sent out from their [[Poké Ball]]s, their back sprites now animate much like their front sprites have since {{v|Emerald}} (i.e., multiple frames of animation in addition to the various distortions and filters already used). Front sprites for {{cat|Generation IV Pokémon}} and other Pokémon in the [[Sinnoh Dex]] have also changed. Certain Pokémon not in the Sinnoh Dex, like {{p|Meowth}}, also got a change in sprites.
* When battling certain {{pkmn|Trainer}}s such as [[Gym Leader]]s, [[Frontier Brain]]s and {{ga|Pearl}}, their sprites are now animated to move in the same manner as Pokémon.
* Some trainers now use [[seals]] when sending out some of their Pokémon.
* The [[Eterna Gym|Eterna]], [[Hearthome Gym|Hearthome]], and [[Veilstone Gym]]s have all had complete redesigns in the interior.
* Closeups of Gym Leaders, just before a battle, have been changed from enlarged sprites to higher-quality drawings and the terms VS;  the Frontier Brains also have this feature. The Elite Four have this as well, but the animation includes the player on the left side of the "VS." and the Elite Four member on the right side.
* The rooms where the player battle the {{si|Elite Four}} have been redesigned. {{EF|Aaron}} now has logs and foliage in his room. [[Bertha]] now has rocks in her room. {{EF|Flint}} now contains lava pits in his room. [[Lucian]]'s room has only had minor changes to now include four large lights or glowing orbs on the floor. [[Cynthia]]'s room has changed its color scheme and the lift leading up to the [[Hall of Fame]] is now partially contained. The [[Pokémon Center]] at the Elite Four has also been redesigned.
* When entering new areas, the location "labels" on the top-left corner have been redesigned, much like they were between {{game|Ruby and Sapphire|s}} and {{game|Emerald}}.
*All gyms now only have Pokémon of their type specialty.
*{{p|Pikachu}} and {{p|Pachirisu}} are now featured when entering Wi-Fi.
*The [[Pal Pad]] has been given a new design.
*The [[Junichi Masuda|game director]] at [[Hotel Grand Lake]] now has an overhead sprite of his own. The [[Diploma]] also was redesigned.

===Storyline changes===
* The player meets [[Professor Rowan]] and the opposite gender character earlier, and obtains his or her [[starter Pokémon]] on [[Route 201]].
* The first battle is against the player's rival, who, as always, has chosen the starter Pokémon that weakens that of the player.
* The player and the rival now encounter [[Cyrus]] at [[Lake Verity]] at the start of the game. The player can also meet Cyrus at different venues such as the [[Eterna City]] statue.
* Both {{p|Dialga}} and {{p|Palkia}} appear on [[Spear Pillar]]. {{p|Giratina}}, the mascot of Platinum, then phases into [[Pokémon universe|the world]] in front of [[Cyrus]].
* A new area known as the [[Distortion World]] (Japanese: やぶれたせかい ''Torn World'') is playable. It has floor-like sections floating at ninety-degree angles from each other, creating an effect similar to the art of {{wp|M. C. Escher}}. It doesn't follow the {{wp|Laws of Physics}}, making things like {{m|Surf|surfing}} down a waterfall going up possible. The camera angle switches between perspective and isometric views to suit the angle of the player. It also has moving platforms with jumpable gaps between them. Giratina, when here, will be in its Origin Forme and is also the only wild Pokémon located here.
* Two new characters to the main storyline were added. One is [[Charon]], a professor of [[Team Galactic]], and the other is a police officer spying on Team Galactic, using the codename "[[Looker]]".
* A tag battle between the player and his or her {{ga|Pearl|rival}} against {{EF|Flint}} and [[Volkner]] takes place at the entrance to the {{si|Battle Frontier}} when the player first arrives there.
* [[Team Galactic]]'s plans for world domination and the layouts of their HQs, such as the one in Eterna, have been changed. In addition, they openly recognize their goal and are more openly villainous.
* Some of the [[Gym Leader]]s have been reordered: [[Fantina]] is now the third Gym Leader, [[Maylene]] is the fourth and [[Crasher Wake]] is the fifth. The appearance of players' gym badge case stays the same though.
* {{ga|Dawn}}/{{ga|Lucas}} no longer gives the player the [[Dowsing Machine]] or the [[Vs Seeker]] near the [[Route 206]] junction; instead he/she meets the player at the entrance to [[Mt. Coronet]].
*[[Team Galactic]] appears in [[Stark Mountain]] under the command of [[Charon]], who seeks to use the destructive power of the volcano to extort money from the people of Sinnoh. The player, with help from [[Buck]], must defeat them. During this event, [[Mars]] and [[Jupiter]] quit Team Galactic because Charon does not share the same ideals as ex-boss [[Cyrus]]. Ultimately, Charon and his two accompanying grunts are apprehended by [[Looker]] and two policemen.
* After the aforementioned event, the player is able to challenge all the [[Gym Leader]]s of Sinnoh to rematches in the [[Battleground]]. The player's tag battle partners from throughout the game ([[Cheryl]], [[Buck]], [[Marley]], [[Mira]], and [[Riley]]) are also able to be challenged in this place. Each of the 13 characters has a team of five Pokémon, whose levels are between 61 and 66.
* The {{si|Elite Four}} increase their Pokémon's levels after the player has completed the [[Stark Mountain]] event. Their levels are now between 65 and 78.
* When one finishes the [[Stark Mountain]] quest, instead of the [[rival]] appearing at the [[Fight Area]] on weekends, he now appears at the [[Survival Area]] in front of the [[Battleground]]. During the first battle, the levels of the Pokémon in his party range from 59-65, second battle 69-75, and third and beyond 79-85. On his last battle, he is the trainer with the highest-leveled Pokémon in all main series games.
* When first visiting the [[Resort Area]], the player receives a [[villa]]. Inside on a table is a catalog that lists items that can be purchased to furnish the house in the same manner as decorating a secret base. The player will be visited by NPCs such as the Sinnoh Gym Leaders, the player's [[mom]], [[Professor Rowan]], and the rival.

===Gameplay changes===
* Giratina's cry will be heard when "Start" or "A" are pressed at the title screen, unlike in {{game|Diamond and Pearl|s}} which just play a snippet of the title theme's melody. It shares this trait with some games from previous generations.
* The Wi-Fi area has been enhanced with the [[Wi-Fi Plaza]], which supports up to 20 people at a time. The new area seems to focus exclusively on mini-games, which include '' Wobbuffet Pop'', where players hit a {{p|Wobbuffet}}, ''Mime Jr. Top'', where players can balance {{p|Mime Jr.}} on a ball and ''Swalot Plop'' where players throw berries at a {{p|Swalot}} machine.
* There is a new [[key item]] called the [[Vs. Recorder]] (given by [[Looker]] when the player first meets him in [[Jubilife City]]), which allows players to record battles in {{si|Battle Frontier}} and Wi-Fi, and share the records with other players over the [[GTS]]. Players can also take pictures of their [[PC]] boxes and share them with other players in a similar fashion.
* The [[GTS]] has incorporated a Wii message system that allows players to be notified of completed trades. Notification messages are sent to the player's Wii Message Board.
* The Sinnoh starters and their evolutions are now allowed in an expanded [[Amity Square]], making a total of 20 Pokémon allowed in the Square.
* Over local wireless, there is a new feature called ''Spin Trade'' where the player and their friends can put their Pokémon eggs in and randomly swap. Trainers that obtain eggs that land on the ''Bonus Area'', the spotted ones, get a berry too.
* {{HM|05|Defog}} is now located inside the [[Solaceon Ruins]] instead of the [[Pastoria Great Marsh]].
* The player now receives {{HM|04|Strength}} from [[Riley]] on [[Iron Island]] instead of in the [[Lost Tower]].
* The player can now challenge other trainers in certain [[Pokémon Center]]s. The trainer(s) are located in front of the desk. These trainers change location every day.
* In addition to the move tutors in Diamond and Pearl, three new [[move tutors]] are added, in [[Snowpoint City]], on [[Route 212]] and in the [[Survival Area]].
* It is no longer necessary to possess {{HM|07|Waterfall}} to go down waterfalls like it was in Diamond and Pearl, regaining its original behavior.
* The {{stat|Accuracy}} of {{m|Hypnosis}} was changed back to 60.
* The game's speed is faster compared to Diamond and Pearl, especially while {{m|Surf|surfing}} and during {{pkmn|battle}}s. These improvements make the game almost, if not as fast, as the [[Generation III]] games.
* Poffins can be made with others via Wi-Fi.
* A man in the [[Veilstone Game Corner]]'s Prize Exchange House can tell the player the type of [[Hidden Power]] their Pokémon has, and a man in the {{si|Battle Tower}} is able to judge the [[Individual values]] of the player Pokémon.
* When the player starts the battle with the Giratina in the [[Distortion World]], instead of displaying "A wild GIRATINA appeared!", it displays "The Distortion World's GIRATINA appeared!".
* The price of the [[accessory|accessories]] at [[Pick a Peck of Colors Flower Shop]] on [[Floaroma Town]] has been reduced.
* European versions of the game are no longer able to play [[slot machine]]s. These versions of the game replace slot machines with [[game machine]]s, a machine that simply gives coins to the player with little interactivity. The reason this was done is due to recent implementation of stricter legislation against gambling in the European Union. This issue will cause similar changes in future European versions of Pokémon games as well.

====Obtainable Pokémon====
* 59 more Pokémon have been added to the [[List of Pokémon by Sinnoh Pokédex number|Sinnoh Pokédex]] to give it a grand total of 210 entries, with all non-legendary Pokémon introduced in Generation IV now included, along with their pre-evolved forms and several other Pokémon. The added Pokémon, such as {{p|Rotom}} and {{p|Giratina}}, are now available prior to the [[Elite Four]] challenge.
* Giratina can appear both as Altered Forme and Origin Forme in Platinum. It will appear in Origin Forme while in the [[Distortion World]], and in Altered Forme while out of it. A [[Griseous Orb]] is required to transform it to its Origin Forme outside of the Distortion World.
* The [[ability]] of Origin Forme is {{a|Levitate}} and its [[Stat|base stats]] mirror those of Altered Forme in that the offensive stats have been switched with their respective defensive stats.
* Shaymin's new Forme is called ''Sky Forme'' and takes on a canine appearance. Its [[ability]] is {{a|Serene Grace}} and the form is focused on {{stat|Speed}} and {{stat|Special Attack}}. It will be able to learn new moves like {{m|Quick Attack}}, {{m|Air Slash}} and {{m|Leaf Storm}}.
* {{p|Shaymin}} is able to change between its two forms via the use of the {{OBP|Gracidea|flower}} (Japanese: グラシデアのはな ''Gracidea Flower''). This item doesn't work at [[Time#Times of day|night]] or if Shaymin is {{status|Freeze|frozen}}.
* {{p|Rotom}} has new forms as well. Each of the five forms is a Rotom that has possessed an electrical appliance. Despite having visual characteristics of other types, the five forms share the original Rotom's {{t|Electric}} and {{t|Ghost}} types, whereas their [[Stat|base stats]] are far higher. They also share the original Rotom's ability: {{a|Levitate}}. These Pokémon are not normally available and are therefore banned from official tournaments. The item to unlock these Pokémon in the game, the {{OBP|Secret Key|Gen IV}}, is an event-only item.
* {{p|Regirock}}, {{p|Regice}} and {{p|Registeel}} can be caught at level 30 with the help of an event {{p|Regigigas}} that has been distributed in Nintendo events.
* {{p|Regigigas}} is now found at level 1, making it the lowest-[[level]] non-glitch wild Pokémon in a game, along with {{p|Magikarp}}. It's also the lowest-level non-glitch legendary in a game.
* The [[legendary birds]] can be found as roaming Pokémon after the [[National Dex|National Pokédex]] is obtained. They roam Sinnoh much like {{p|Mesprit}} and {{p|Cresselia}} do. The player has to talk to [[Professor Oak]] in [[Eterna City]] to trigger their appearance. They are all at level 60.
* {{p|Dialga}} and {{p|Palkia}} appear on [[Spear Pillar]] one at a time after the player has spoken with Cynthia's grandmother in [[Celestic Town]], and obtained the [[Adamant Orb|Adamant]] and [[Lustrous Orb]]s in [[Mt. Coronet]].
* [[Cynthia]] now gives the player a [[Pokémon egg]] containing {{p|Togepi}} after the player has defeated Team Galactic at the [[Galactic Eterna Building]], replacing the {{p|Happiny}} Egg previously obtainable in [[Hearthome City]].
* [[Bebe]] now gives the player an {{p|Eevee}} before the player receives the [[National Dex]]; Eevee can now be obtained from the first time the player arrives in [[Hearthome City]]. It is at level 20.
* A man in [[Veilstone City]] gives the player a level 25 {{p|Porygon}} as a gift.
* {{p|Manaphy}}, while still uncatchable in-game, is now required to obtain the [[National Dex]]. It can be added to the [[Sinnoh Dex]] from finding its picture in a book in the {{OBP|Pokémon Mansion|Sinnoh}}.

===Map changes===
*Much like the [[Pokémon Emerald Version|third version of the last generation]], a new {{si|Battle Frontier}} takes the place of the {{si|Battle Park}}. It has the {{si|Battle Tower}}, {{si|Battle Factory}}, {{si|Battle Castle}}, {{si|Battle Arcade}} and {{si|Battle Hall}} as venues.
*[[Twinleaf Town]] and nearby routes now have snow patches.
*[[Jubilife City]] has been refurbished with new pathways and some buildings have animated roof lights.
*The [[Global Trade Station]] in [[Jubilife City]] has been redesigned and now includes a bigger global terminal. It has been renamed as the ''Global Terminal''.
*[[Oreburgh Mine]] now has twin coal transporters starting from the entrance and ending at the entrance to the last section of the mine and are now moving.
*An arch now represents the entrances to [[Floaroma Town]].
*The trees in [[Eterna Forest]], as well as [[Fullmoon Island]] and [[Newmoon Island]], cast shadows that cover the ground.
*[[Eterna City]] has been refurbished with new foliage and pathways. Also the [[Galactic Eterna Building]] has had a complete redesign, inside and out. It now contains a secret room where Rotom can switch between its forms.
*[[Route 206|Cycling Road]] has been redesigned and now has tunnel-like shelters in the middle of the Cycle Route, as well as lights along the sides of it.
*[[Hearthome City]] has been refurbished with new pathways.
*[[Amity Square]] has been completely remodeled. It now includes a small pond, more paths and more upper levels. The old buildings that previously inhabited Amity Square now contain Warp Panels which transport the player to the other old buildings within Amity Square.
*[[Lost Tower]] has had its color scheme changed and now has fog on three of its five floors, which can be cleared by {{HM|05|Defog}}.
*[[Solaceon Town]]'s houses have been remodeled and the [[Pokémon Daycare]] now has a trough filled with water and tent-like shelters.
*[[Veilstone City]] has been refurbished with new pathways. The [[Galactic Veilstone Building]] has been redesigned, inside and out. The [[Veilstone Department Store]] now has a basement, in which contest items can be sold and bought. Berries and Lava Cookies can be bought as well.
*The [[Hotel Grand Lake]] has been refurbished with new pathways.
*[[Pastoria City]]'s houses have been remodeled and now also includes a board with a {{p|Croagunk}} on it which is located in front of the [[Great Marsh]].
*The [[Great Marsh]] has had its color scheme changed and has also had foliage changed and added.
*[[Celestic Town]]'s houses have been remodeled.
*[[Canalave City]] has been refurbished with new pathways and its houses and library have also been remodeled.
*The player now needs to use {{HM|08|Rock Climb}} to reach [[Lake Acuity]].
*The area of water to the south of [[Snowpoint City]] where the player can get a boat to the [[Battle Zone]] now contains a small amount of icebergs. These can also be seen in the ocean when the boat is crossing to the Battle Zone. The boat has also been redesigned, most likely due to the icebergs in the sea.
*The back area of [[Spear Pillar]] has been slightly redesigned to allow more room for the [[Dragon Trio]] when they appear.
*[[Sunyshore City]] has been refurbished with new pathways and its houses have been remodeled.
*The entrance and exit of {{si|Victory Road}} have become wider, having a [[Poké Ball]] at the center of the arch.
*The [[Battle Zone]] is now warmer, and palm trees can be found there.
*[[Stark Mountain]] now has more features evocative of a {{wp|volcano}}, such as crags and pits of lava.
*The {{si|Pokémon Mansion}} is surrounded by golden railings.

===Missing Pokémon===
These Pokémon are available in Diamond and Pearl but missing from Platinum and must be traded from the other games of [[Generation IV]] or imported from a game from [[Generation III]].
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==Reception==
Upon its release Pokémon Platinum received very good review scores from critics. Famitsu awarded the game a score of 36 out of 40 with all four reviewers giving it a 9 out of 10. IGN gave the game a "Great" score with an 8.8 out of 10 stating that, "Yes, It's still good. Even two years later".

==Connectivity==
*The game can connect automatically to {{game|Diamond and Pearl|s}} once the player has access to a [[Pokémon Center]]. It retains the same compatibility with [[Generation III]] games and [[Pokémon Battle Revolution]] as its predecessors, but [[My Pokémon Ranch]] requires an update to work with Platinum that is currently only available in Japan. Pokémon Battle Revolution also wasn't programmed to be compatible with Platinum, so new formes will not appear.

==Trivia==
*This is the first game where a [[version mascot]]'s primary color is not the name of the game. However, while no color is especially dominant in {{p|Giratina}}'s color scheme, it has gray elements that the "Platinum" may refer to, and the names ''Giratina'' and ''Platina'' share the same word ending.
* Platinum is the only game thus far to have altered a [[regional Pokédex]].
* Platinum is the first game to be named after a metal since {{game|Gold and Silver|s}}.
** It also makes [[Generation IV]] the first generation in which two game names have the same first initial in English ('''P'''earl and '''P'''latinum). However, other languages have had the same initial in their game names, with Spanish '''A'''zul and '''A'''marillo for Blue and Yellow and German '''S'''aphir and '''S'''maragd for Sapphire and Emerald. Coincidentally, all three of these are the respective second and third versions of their generation.
* According to {{wp|Famitsu}}, Pokémon Platinum is the fastest-selling [[Nintendo DS]] game.
* A small cosmetic mistake was made during the development of Platinum. Normally, when the player picks up an item on the ground, it disappears and the message saying "[PLAYER] received a(n) [item]". However, when the player approaches the Poké Ball containing the [[Griseous Orb]], it displays "[PLAYER] received a Griseous Orb!" ''before'' it disappears. This was corrected in the English version of the game.
**In the [[Turnback Cave]], however, the item in the last room by the portal still has this mistake.
*On occasions at the Pastoria Great Marsh, if the player stands behind the Croagunk Wall with the player's head sticking out of it, a wild Croagunk will come, but it will just cry and walk into the Great Marsh building.
*All of the Pokémon in the Sinnoh Pokédex as well as a few others got new sprite designs, as is customary for third versions. However, the {{2v2|Diamond|Pearl}} sprites are still used when the player dresses up the Pokémon either in [[Super Contest]]s or in the [[Jubilife TV]] station.
*Platinum's PRNG, or pseudorandom number generator, used for determining a Pokémon's [[personality value]], is "broken", leading to the easier breeding of [[Alternate coloration|shiny]] [[Pokémon egg|eggs]] and negligence to reset in-game events such as what Trainers appear in the [[Battleground]]. This also happens with {{game|Emerald}}.

===In other languages===
*'''French:''' ''Version Platine''
*'''Spanish:''' ''Edición Platino''
*'''German:''' ''Platin-Edition''
*'''Italian:''' ''Versione Platino''
*'''Korean:''' 포켓몬스터기라티나Pt ''Pocket Monsters Giratina Pt'' 

==External links==
* [http://www.pokemonplatinum.com/ Official Pokémon Platinum English Website]
* [http://www.pokemon.co.jp/special/platinum/ Official Pokémon Platinum Japanese Website]
* [http://www.pokemonplatinum.net/ More Information on Pokémon Platinum]
* [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgBjbpaMVJw Official Pokémon Platinum Trailer]
* [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_M2ZVFYkaFQ Second Official Pokémon Platinum Trailer]
* [http://purenintendo.com/2008/02/24/rumor-pokemon-platinum-on-its-way-2009/ Rumor: Pokémon Platinum On Its Way 2009?]

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Evolution stone

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An '''evolutionary stone''' (Japanese: '''{{tt|進化の石|しんかのいし}}''' ''Shinka no ishi'') is a type of [[item]] with mysterious properties. It radiates energy that causes some [[Pokémon]] to [[Evolution|evolve]].

A Pokémon whose evolution requires the use of a stone may have it used on them at any time, causing instant evolution which cannot be canceled. The evolutionary stone must be directly used on the Pokémon, rather than being held by it, with the exception of the Oval Stone.

Many Pokémon which evolve by use of a stone no longer learn new moves by leveling up, or have a radically different level-up learnset.

There are eleven types of evolutionary stones.

==List of stones==
===[[Image:FireStoneSprite.png]] Fire Stone===
[[Image:Pyro brother.jpg|thumb|right|Pyro and Flareon with the Fire Stone]]
Fire Stones can be bought at the [[Celadon Dept. Store]] for {{PDollar}}2100, or are given in exchange for a [[Red Shard]] in {{game2|Ruby|Sapphire|Emerald}}. In {{2v2|Gold|Silver}} they are given away only by Bill's Grandpa if he is shown a {{p|Vulpix}} or a {{p|Growlithe}} when requested. In {{game|Crystal}}, they are also given away by [[Schoolboy]] Alan. They can also be found on the ground in certain locations in the wild and [[the Underground|underground]] in [[Sinnoh]].

As the name suggests, it is strongly associated with {{type2|Fire}}s. It is a bright yellow color with a fire pattern depicted.

====Evolves====
* {{p|Vulpix}} → {{p|Ninetales}}
* {{p|Growlithe}} → {{p|Arcanine}}
* {{p|Eevee}} → {{p|Flareon}}

====In the anime====
The Fire Stone played an important role in the episode, ''[[EP190|The Stolen Stones]]''. They were supposed to be delivered to a stadium and used as a prize in a competition held there.

===[[Image:WaterStoneSprite.png]] Water Stone===
[[Image:Waterstone.png|thumb|right|Brock's Lombre holding a Water Stone]]
Water Stones can be bought at the [[Celadon Dept. Store]] for {{PDollar}}2100, or are given in exchange for a [[Blue Shard]] in {{game2|Ruby|Sapphire|Emerald}}. In {{2v2|Gold|Silver}} they are given away only by Bill's Grandpa if he is shown a {{p|Staryu}} when requested. In {{game|Crystal}}, they are also given away by [[Fisher]] Tully. They can also be found on the ground in certain locations in the wild and [[the Underground|underground]] in [[Sinnoh]].

As the name suggests, it is strongly associated with {{type2|Water}}s. It is a blue color with a bubble pattern depicted.

====Evolves====
* {{p|Poliwhirl}} → {{p|Poliwrath}}
* {{p|Shellder}} → {{p|Cloyster}}
* {{p|Staryu}} → {{p|Starmie}}
* {{p|Eevee}} → {{p|Vaporeon}}
* {{p|Lombre}} → {{p|Ludicolo}}

====In the anime====
[[Brock's Ludicolo|Brock's Lombre]] found a Water Stone in [[Samantha]]'s backpack and promptly evolved into a Ludicolo in ''[[AG105|Once In A Mawile]]''.

===[[Image:ThunderstoneSprite.png]] Thunderstone===
[[Image:Thunderstone.png|thumb|right|A Thunderstone]]
Thunderstones can be bought at the [[Celadon Dept. Store]] for {{PDollar}}2100, or are given in exchange for a [[Yellow Shard]] in {{game2|Ruby|Sapphire|Emerald}}. In {{2v2|Gold|Silver}} they are given away only by Bill's Grandpa if he is shown a {{p|Pichu}} when requested. In {{game|Crystal}}, they are also given away by [[Lass]] Dana. They can also be found on the ground in certain locations in the wild and [[the Underground|underground]] in [[Sinnoh]].

As the name suggests, it is strongly associated with {{type2|Electric}}s. It is a green color with a thunderbolt pattern depicted.

====Evolves====
* {{p|Pikachu}} → {{p|Raichu}}
* {{p|Eevee}} → {{p|Jolteon}}

====In the anime====
{{Ash}} was given a Thunderstone that the [[Nurse Joy]] from [[Vermilion City]] found in ''[[EP014|Electric Shock Showdown]]''. He asked Pikachu whether or not it wanted to evolve to compete against [[Lt. Surge's Raichu]]; however, Pikachu decided not to. Ash kept this Thunderstone with him until ''[[DP074|Pika and Goliath!]]'', when Pikachu again denied evolution when offered the chance. [[Jessie]], [[James]], and {{MTR}} stole this Thunderstone when it was sitting on the windowsill of the room Pikachu was sleeping in.

===[[Image:LeafStoneSprite.png]] Leaf Stone===
[[Image:Leafstone.png|thumb|right|A Leaf Stone replica]]
Leaf Stones can be bought at the [[Celadon Dept. Store]] for {{PDollar}}2100, or are given in exchange for a [[Green Shard]] in {{game2|Ruby|Sapphire|Emerald}}. In {{2v2|Gold|Silver}} they are given away only by Bill's Grandpa if he is shown an {{p|Oddish}} when requested. In {{game|Crystal}}, they are also given away by [[Picnicker]] Gina. They can also be found on the ground in certain locations in the wild and [[the Underground|underground]] in [[Sinnoh]].

As the name suggests, it is strongly associated with {{type2|Grass}}s. It is earth colored with a leaf pattern imprinted onto it.

====Evolves====
* {{p|Gloom}} → {{p|Vileplume}}
* {{p|Weepinbell}} → {{p|Victreebel}}
* {{p|Exeggcute}} → {{p|Exeggutor}}
* {{p|Nuzleaf}} → {{p|Shiftry}}

====In the anime====
A fake Leaf Stone appeared in ''[[EP068|Make Room for Gloom!]]'', where it was given to [[Florinda Showers|a woman]] who wanted her {{p|Gloom}} to evolve into a {{p|Vileplume}}. It was later realized this stone was fake, and created by [[Team Rocket]].

===[[Image:MoonStoneSprite.png]] Moon Stone===
[[Image:Moonstone.png|thumb|right|Seymour holding a Moon Stone]]
This is one of five stones which can never be bought at stores. It can be found in a few locations in the wild and [[the Underground|underground]] in [[Sinnoh]]. In [[Generation II]], one can be found in [[Tohjo Falls]], plus one on each [[Monday]] [[night]] in [[Mt. Moon]]'s relaxation square by using {{m|Rock Smash}} on the rock that the {{p|Clefairy}} dance around. Also, the player's mother will give one to the player through the PC after she has saved up a certain amount of money. There is also a small chance of stealing one off of a wild {{p|Lunatone}} or {{p|Clefairy}} in Generations {{gen|III}} or {{gen|IV}} by catching them or with {{m|Thief}} or {{m|Covet}}.

It is related with the moon. Most Pokémon that evolve with the Moon Stone have some connection to it. It was once depicted as grey in color, but it is now depicted as being dark as the night sky. It also sparkles.

Pokémon that evolve using this item have a higher probability of capture with the [[Moon Ball]].

====Evolves====
* {{p|Nidorina}} → {{p|Nidoqueen}}
* {{p|Nidorino}} → {{p|Nidoking}}
* {{p|Clefairy}} → {{p|Clefable}}
* {{p|Jigglypuff}} → {{p|Wigglytuff}}
* {{p|Skitty}} → {{p|Delcatty}}

====In the anime====
The Moon Stone is the first of the evolutionary stones to appear in the anime, in ''[[EP006|Clefairy and the Moon Stone]]''. In this episode, many {{p|Clefairy}} were collecting them from all around [[Mt. Moon]] and bringing them before a larger Moon Stone. After an altercation with Team Rocket, this large Moon Stone exploded, raining shards down on the Clefairy, who, exposed to its radiation, evolved into {{p|Clefable}}.

====Moon Shard====
In [[Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness]], there is a key item that may be related to the Moon Stone called the Moon Shard. It is used only for {{p|Eevee}}.
* {{p|Eevee}} → {{p|Umbreon}}

===[[Image:SunStoneSprite.png]] Sun Stone===
[[Image:Sunstone.png|thumb|right|Ash holding his Sun Stone]]
This stone was first introduced in [[Generation II]].

It is one of the five stones which can never be bought in stores. In {{game2|Gold|Silver|Crystal}} it is the first prize at the [[National Park]]'s [[Bug-Catching Contest]]. In {{game2|Ruby|Sapphire|Emerald}}, a man in [[Mossdeep City]] will give one away. There is also a very small chance of stealing one off of wild {{p|Solrock}} with {{m|Thief}} or {{m|Covet}}. In {{game|FireRed and LeafGreen|s}} one can be found in [[Ruin Valley]] on [[Fortune Island]]. In [[Sinnoh]] it, like the other stones released before [[Generation IV|the fourth generation of games]], can be found [[the Underground|underground]], but there is one hidden near the [[Hotel Grand Lake]] as well.

The stone itself - being orange and spherical, with spikes round the circumference - and the Pokémon which it causes to evolve, not only look like the sun, but have a sort of mystical connection with it.

====Evolves====
* {{p|Gloom}} → {{p|Bellossom}}
* {{p|Sunkern}} → {{p|Sunflora}}

====In the anime====
Ash managed to win a Sun Stone as first prize in a bug-catching competition in ''[[EP161|The Bug Stops Here]]''. He later used this Sun Stone to evolve a {{p|Sunkern}} in ''[[EP187|Moving Pictures]]''.

====Sun Shard====
In [[Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness]], there is a key item that may be related to the Sun Stone called the Sun Shard. It is used only for {{p|Eevee}}.
* {{p|Eevee}} → {{p|Espeon}}

===[[Image:ShinyStoneSprite.png]] Shiny Stone===
This stone was first introduced in [[Generation IV]]. One can be found on [[Iron Island]], and another on [[Route 228]]. They are also readily available with the {{a|Pickup}} ability, or can be [[Mystery Gift]]ed from [[Pokétopia]] for 7200 [[Poké Coupon|Poké Coupons]].

It is imbued with radiant energy. Pokémon that evolve with the Shiny Stone have a connection to the day and light. It has a brilliant white glow to it.

====Evolves====
* {{p|Togetic}} → {{p|Togekiss}}
* {{p|Roselia}} → {{p|Roserade}}

===[[Image:DuskStoneSprite.png]] Dusk Stone===
This stone was first introduced in [[Generation IV]]. One can be found in the [[Team Galactic HQ]], and another in an area of {{si|Victory Road}} that can only be accessed after the defeat of the [[Elite Four]]. They are also readily available with the {{a|Pickup}} ability, or can be [[Mystery Gift]]ed from [[Pokétopia]] for 7200 [[Poké Coupon|Poké Coupons]].

It is imbued with a dark energy. Pokémon that evolve with the Dusk Stone have a connection to the night and darkness. It has an unusual dark purple glow to it.

====Evolves====
* {{p|Murkrow}} → {{p|Honchkrow}}
* {{p|Misdreavus}} → {{p|Mismagius}}

===[[Image:DawnStoneSprite.png]]Dawn Stone===
This stone was first introduced in [[Generation IV]]. One can be found in [[Mt. Coronet]] and another can be found on [[Route 225]]. In {{game|Platinum}}, one more can be found hidden in [[Route 212]]. They are also readily available with the {{a|Pickup}} ability, or can be [[Mystery Gift]]ed from [[Pokétopia]] for 7200 [[Poké Coupon|Poké Coupons]].

It is imbued with a mysterious energy. Pokémon that evolve with the Dawn Stone must be of a specific gender. It is a turquoise color with a starburst pattern onto it and it is said to sparkle like eyes.

====Evolves====
* {{p|Kirlia}} ♂ → {{p|Gallade}}
* {{p|Snorunt}} ♀ → {{p|Froslass}}

===[[Image:OvalStoneSprite.png]] Oval Stone===
This stone was first introduced in [[Generation IV]].

An Oval Stone can be found in the Lost Tower. More can be found [[the Underground|underground]] and there is a good (50%) chance it can be held by a wild {{p|Happiny}} or {{p|Chansey}}. Unlike other stones, it is not used on the Pokémon to evolve it, but instead held by it. It can be selected to be used like the other stones, however, it has no effect on any Pokémon.

It seems like an ordinary rock, but it is shaped like an egg.
====Evolves====
* {{p|Happiny}} → {{p|Chansey}} (level up when [[held item|held]] during the day)

===[[Image:Everstone.png]] Everstone===
[[File:Everstone anime.png|Dawn's Everstone|thumb]]
This stone was first introduced in [[Generation II]].

An Everstone is unlike any of the other stones, as when a Pokémon holds it, they will ''not'' evolve for whatever reason. Furthermore, a Ditto or a female Pokémon that holds an Everstone has a 50% chance of passing its [[nature]] to its offspring when at the [[Pokémon Daycare]]. These can be found [[The Underground|underground]] or held by wild {{p|Geodude}} and {{p|Graveler}} in Generations {{gen|II}} and {{gen|IV}}. An Everstone can also be found in [[Granite Cave]] in [[Hoenn]]

It looks like an ordinary dull grey rock.

====In the anime====

In [[DP122]], {{an|Dawn}} used an Everstone on her [[Dawn's Piplup|Piplup]] to permanantly prevent it from evolving.

==Appearance==

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|- align="center"
| width="160px" style="background: #{{fire color}}; -moz-border-radius-topleft: 5px; -moz-border-radius-topright: 5px;" | [[Image:Mine Fire Stone.png|80px]]
| width="160px" style="background: #{{water color}}; -moz-border-radius-topleft: 5px; -moz-border-radius-topright: 5px;" | [[Image:Mine Water Stone.png|80px]]
| width="160px" style="background: #{{electric color}}; -moz-border-radius-topleft: 5px; -moz-border-radius-topright: 5px;" | [[Image:Mine Thunderstone.png|80px]]
| width="160px" style="background: #{{grass color}}; -moz-border-radius-topleft: 5px; -moz-border-radius-topright: 5px;" | [[Image:Mine Leaf Stone 1.png|80px]]
|- align="center"
| style="background: #{{fire color light}}; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft: 5px; -moz-border-radius-bottomright: 5px;" | {{color|{{fire color dark}}|Fire Stone}}
| style="background: #{{water color light}}; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft: 5px; -moz-border-radius-bottomright: 5px;" | {{color|{{water color dark}}|Water Stone}}
| style="background: #{{electric color light}}; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft: 5px; -moz-border-radius-bottomright: 5px;" | {{color|{{electric color dark}}|Thunderstone}}
| style="background: #{{grass color light}}; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft: 5px; -moz-border-radius-bottomright: 5px;" | {{color|{{grass color dark}}|Leaf Stone}}
|- align="center"
| width="160px" style="background: #{{dark color}}; -moz-border-radius-topleft: 5px; -moz-border-radius-topright: 5px;" | [[Image:Mine Moon Stone 1.png|140px]]
| width="160px" style="background: #{{bug color}}; -moz-border-radius-topleft: 5px; -moz-border-radius-topright: 5px;" | [[Image:Mine Sun Stone.png|80px]]
| width="160px" style="background: #{{normal color}}; -moz-border-radius-topleft: 5px; -moz-border-radius-topright: 5px;" | [[Image:Mine Oval Stone.png|80px]]
| width="160px" style="background: #{{rock color}}; -moz-border-radius-topleft: 5px; -moz-border-radius-topright: 5px;" | [[Image:Mine Everstone.png|140px]]
|- align="center"
| style="background: #{{dark color light}}; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft: 5px; -moz-border-radius-bottomright: 5px;" | {{color|{{dark color dark}}|Moon Stone}}
| style="background: #{{bug color light}}; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft: 5px; -moz-border-radius-bottomright: 5px;" | {{color|{{bug color dark}}|Sun Stone}}
| style="background: #{{normal color light}}; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft: 5px; -moz-border-radius-bottomright: 5px;" | {{color|{{normal color dark}}|Oval Stone}}
| style="background: #{{rock color light}}; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft: 5px; -moz-border-radius-bottomright: 5px;" | {{color|{{rock color dark}}|Everstone}}
|}
{{-}}

==In the Pokémon Special manga==
In the [[Red, Green & Blue chapter (Special)|Red, Green & Blue]] chapter a Moon Stone is first mentioned by [[Professor Oak]] in ''[[PS006|Gyarados Splashes In!]]'' as a rock with a moon shape inscription that boost Pokémon's power immensely, in the next round, ''[[PS007|Raging Rhydon]]'', [[Team Rocket]] search for one in [[Mt. Moon]], however it is {{Special|Red}} who finds it. Later on, Red uses this Moon Stone to evolve {{Special|Blue}}'s {{p|Clefairy}}. Red's [[Poli]] evolves in a {{p|Poliwrath}} with the help of the Water Stone when he falls in the water.

In the [[Yellow chapter (Special)|Yellow]] chapter, {{Special|Yellow}} finds a Leaf Stone in Vermilion Harbor, but the Fire, Thunder and Water Stones are missing. Later, it is revealed [[Giovanni]] gave them to Red so he could evolve his Eevee.

==In the anime==

[[Image:Branched_evolution.png|250px|thumb|Oddish's [[evolution family|evolutionary line]] as demonstrated in the anime]]
The first appearance of evolutionary stones in the anime was that of the Moon Stone in ''[[EP006|Clefairy and the Moon Stone]]''. After a rather large Moon Stone was blown up, its pieces rained down and caused several of the {{p|Clefairy}} gathered around to evolve.

A second appearance in ''[[EP014|The Electric Shock Showdown]]'' introduced the Thunderstone, as well as the first opportunity for one of the main characters' Pokémon to evolve via stone. However, [[Ash's Pikachu]] refused the offer to evolve, knocking away the Thunderstone.

All of the evolutionary stones introduced in [[Generation I]] appeared in ''[[EP040|The Battling Eevee Brothers]]'', where two of the [[Eevee brothers]] offered a Thunderstone and a [[Fire Stone]] to Ash and Brock so that they could evolve their Pikachu and {{TP|Brock|Vulpix}}. Both Ash and Brock declined.

A Leaf Stone appeared in ''[[EP068|Make Room for Gloom]]''.

Another Leaf Stone appeared at the very end of ''[[PK04|Pikachu's Rescue Adventure]]''. With it, the {{p|Exeggcute}} that had been following [[Misty's Togepi]] around evolved into {{p|Exeggutor}}.

Ash wins a Sun Stone in the [[Bug-Catching Contest]] during ''[[EP161|The Bug Stops Here]]''. He later uses it to evolve a {{p|Sunkern}} in ''[[EP187|Moving Pictures]]''.

Both the Leaf Stone and Sun Stone appear in ''[[EP239|Whichever Way the Wind Blows]]'' as a demonstration of the [[list of Pokémon with branched evolutions|branch]] in {{p|Oddish}}'s [[evolution family|evolutionary line]].

The Water Stone appears in ''[[AG105|Once in Mawile]]'' and is used by [[Brock's Ludicolo|Brock's Lombre]] to evolve into Ludicolo. This is the first time that a main character's Pokémon evolves via an evolutionary stone, although it is possible that [[James's Victreebel|James's Weepinbell]] was evolved by way of a Leaf Stone prior to ''[[EP057|The Breeding Center Secret]]''.

In [[DP122]], {{an|Dawn}} used an Everstone on her [[Dawn's Piplup|Piplup]] to prevent it from evolving.

Strangely, evolutionary stones do not seem to be ''required'' for evolution in the anime as they are in the games. [[James's second Victreebel|James's second Weepinbell]] evolved without a Leaf Stone in ''[[EP261|Here's Lookin' At You, Elekid]]'', though this may just be an example of [[anime physics]].

==Trivia==
* So far, only {{cat|Generation I Pokémon}} can use the Fire Stone and Thunderstone, only {{cat|Generation II Pokémon}} can use the Dusk Stone, and only {{cat|Generation III Pokémon}} can use the Dawn Stone.
* The Moon Stone, Leaf Stone, and Water Stone are the only stones introduced in one generation that evolve Pokémon introduced in a later generation.
* Excluding {{cat|Generation III Pokémon}}, only one Pokémon that evolves by each of the stones introduced before that generation is found in the [[Hoenn Dex]].
* Of the original five evolutionary stones, the Thunderstone sees the least use, with only two Pokémon species that evolve using it.
* All evolutionary stones introduced after [[Generation I]] can only evolve two species.
* Of all {{cat|Pokémon that evolve by evolutionary stone}}, only {{p|Eevee}} and {{p|Gloom}} can use multiple ones; together they can use any of the stones introduced before [[Generation IV]] except for the Moon Stone.
* Only four Pokémon that evolve by stone can evolve using another method: {{p|Poliwhirl}}, {{p|Eevee}}, {{p|Kirlia}}, and {{p|Snorunt}}.
* Pokémon that result from a Pokémon evolving via Leaf Stone, Dusk Stone, and Shiny Stone do not have types that differ from their pre-evolutionary forms.
* Only {{type2|Grass}} Pokémon evolve using the Leaf Stone and Sun Stone, and both Pokémon that evolve using the Sun Stone evolve into pure Grass-types.
* The Oval Stone is the only evolutionary stone that must be held by the Pokémon, instead of used directly on it, to induce evolution. Thus, it works more like a {{DL|Evolution-inducing held item|Razor Claw}} or {{DL|Evolution-inducing held item|Razor Fang}} in functionality.
* Of all the Pokémon that evolve by evolutionary stone, only {{p|Happiny}} is able to evolve further. However, Happiny is the only one that must hold its stone to evolve, so she is more like {{p|Gliscor}} and {{p|Weavile}} in evolution.
* In [[National Dex]] [[List of Pokémon by National Dex number|order]], five evolution families in a row that use an evolutionary stone appear: {{p|Nidoran♀}}, {{p|Nidoran♂}}, {{p|Clefairy}}, {{p|Vulpix}}, {{p|Jigglypuff}}. Vulpix uses the Fire Stone; the rest all use the Moon Stone.
* All Pokémon that evolve with the Fire Stone and Thunderstone are in the {{egg3|Ground}}, all the Pokémon that evolve with the Leaf and Sun Stones are in the {{egg3|Plant}}, and all the Pokémon that evolve with the Shiny Stone are in the {{egg3|Fairy}}.
* Both Pokémon that evolve with Shiny Stone evolve into Pokémon with a red right appendage and a blue left appendage.

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List of Chinese Pokémon names

2009-06-19T05:14:32Z

Joe9320: /* #001 - #051 Bulbasaur - Dugtrio */

This list is a record of the official English spellings and Chinese Characters (hanzi) for [[Pokémon]] names. Names are listed by number in the order dictated by the [[National Dex]], meaning that Pokémon from the [[Kanto]] region will appear first, followed by those from [[Johto]], [[Hoenn]], [[Sinnoh]], and subsequent regions.

==Columns==

* '''English''': The official English name as dictated by [[Nintendo of America]] and used in all English-language games and merchandise.
* '''Chinese''': The official hanzi have two different parts: Taiwan/mainland China and Hong Kong. It is romanised in Pinyin and Wades-Giles for informational purposes only.

==How to Search==

To search for a specific Pokémon on the list, press Ctrl+F if using Windows and enter the Pokémon's name or National Dex number into the search field. Searching by name can be accomplished by entering either the Pokémon's English or Chinese name.

Clicking on a Pokémon's English name will lead to a new page with more detailed information about that specific Pokémon.

==List of Chinese Pokémon names==
===#001 - #051 Bulbasaur - Dugtrio ===
{| border="1" cellpadding="2" style="margin: auto; border: 1px solid #88a; border-collapse: collapse;"
|- style="background: #ccf;"
! #
! English
! Chinese(Simplified, CN)
! Chinese(Traditional, TW/CN)
! Pinyin (TW/CN)
! Pinyin (HK)
! Chinese (HK)
! Wades-Giles (TW/CN)
! Wades-Giles (HK)
|-
|001
|{{p|Bulbasaur}}
|妙娃種子
|奇異種子
|Miào Wā Chóng Zí
|Qí Yì Chóng Zí
|-
|002
|{{p|Ivysaur}}
|妙娃草
|奇異草
|Miào Wā Cǎo
|Qí Yì Cǎo
|-
|003
|{{p|Venusaur}}
|妙娃花
|奇異花
|Miào Wā Huā
|Qí Yì Huā
|-
|004
|{{p|Charmander}}
|小火龍
|小火龍
|Xiǎo Hǔo Lóng
|Xiǎo Hǔo Lóng
|-
|005
|{{p|Charmeleon}}
|火恐龍
|火恐龍
|Hǔo Kǒng Lóng
|Hǔo Kǒng Lóng
|-
|006
|{{p|Charizard}}
|噴火龍
|噴火龍
|Pēn Hǔo Lóng
|Pēn Hǔo Lóng
|-
|007
|{{p|Squirtle}}
|傑尼龜
|車厘龜
|Jíe Ní Guī
|Chē Lí Guī
|-
|008
|{{p|Wartortle}}
|卡咪龜
|卡美龜
|Kǎ Mī Gūi
|Kǎ Měi Gūi
|-
|009
|{{p|Blastoise}}
|水箭龜
|水箭龜
|Shǔi Jiàn Gūi
|Shǔi Jiàn Gūi
|-
|010
|{{p|Caterpie}}
|綠毛蟲
|綠毛蟲
|Lü Máo Chóng
|Lü Máo Chóng
|-
|011
|{{p|Metapod}}
|鐵甲蛹
|鐵甲蛹
|Tié Já Yǒng
|Tié Já Yǒng
|-
|012
|{{p|Butterfree}}
|巴大蝴
|巴他蝶
|Bā Dǎ Hú
|Bā Tā Hú
|-
|013
|{{p|Weedle}}
|獨角蟲
|獨角蟲
|Dú Jiǎo Chóng
|Dú Jiǎo Chóng
|-
|014
|{{p|Kakuna}}
|鐵殼昆
|鐵殼蛹
|Tiě Ké Kūn
|Tiě Ké Yǒng
|-
|015
|{{p|Beedrill}}
|大針蜂
|大針蜂
|Dà Zhēn Fēng
|Dà Zhēn Fēng
|-
|016
|{{p|Pidgey}}
|波波
|波波
|Bō Bō
|Bō Bō
|-
|017
|{{p|Pidgeotto}}
|比比鳥
|比比鳥
|Bí Bī Niǎo
|Bí Bī Niǎo
|-
|018
|{{p|Pidgeot}}
|比雕
|大比鳥
|Bí Diāo
|Dà Bí Niǎo
|-
|019
|{{p|Rattata}}
|小拉達
|小哥達
|Xiǎo Lā Dá
|Xiǎo Gē Dá
|-
|020
|{{p|Raticate}}
|拉達
|哥達
|Lā Dá
|Gē Dá
|-
|021
|{{p|Spearow}}
|烈雀
|鬼雀
|Liè Què
|Gǔi Qiè
|-
|022
|{{p|Fearow}}
|大嘴雀
|魔雀
|Dà Zǔi Què
|Mǒ Què
|-
|023
|{{p|Ekans}}
|阿柏蛇
|阿柏蛇
|Ā Bó Shé
|Ā Bó Shé
|-
|024
|{{p|Arbok}}
|阿柏怪
|阿柏怪
|Ā Bó Guài
|Ā Bó Guài
|-
|025
|{{p|Pikachu}}
|皮卡丘
|比卡超
|Pí Kǎ Qīu
|Bí Kǎ Chāo
|-
|026
|{{p|Raichu}}
|雷丘
|雷超
|Léi Qīu
|Léi Chāo
|-
|027
|{{p|Sandshrew}}
|穿山鼠
|穿山鼠
|Chuān Shān Shǔ
|Chuān Shān Shǔ
|-
|028
|{{p|Sandslash}}
|穿山王
|穿山王
|Chuān Shān Wáng
|Chuān Shān Wáng
|-
|029
|{{p|Nidoran♀}}
|尼多蘭
|尼美蘭
|Ní Duō Lán
|Ní Měi Lán
|-
|030
|{{p|Nidorina}}
|尼多娜
|尼美羅
|Ní Duō Nà
|Ní Měi Luó
|-
|031
|{{p|Nidoqueen}}
|尼多后
|尼美后
|Ní Duō Hòu
|Ní Měi Hòu
|-
|032
|{{p|Nidoran♂}}
|尼多朗
|尼多郎
|Ní Duō Láng
|Ní Duō Láng
|-
|033
|{{p|Nidorino}}
|尼多力諾
|尼多利
|Ní Duō Lì Nuò
|Ní Duō Lì
|-
|034
|{{p|Nidoking}}
|尼多王
|尼多王
|Ní Duō Wáng
|Ní Duō Wáng
|-
|035
|{{p|Clefairy}}
|皮皮
|皮皮
|Pǐ Pǐ
|Pǐ Pǐ
|-
|036
|{{p|Clefable}}
|皮可西
|皮可斯
|Pí Kě Sī
|Pí Kě Sī
|-
|037
|{{p|Vulpix}}
|六尾
|六尾
|Liù Wěi
|Liù Wěi
|-
|038
|{{p|Ninetales}}
|九尾
|九尾
|Jiǔ Wěi
|Jiǔ Wěi
|-
|039
|{{p|Jigglypuff}}
|胖丁
|波波球
|Pàng Dīng
|Bō Bō Qiú
|-
|040
|{{p|Wigglytuff}}
|胖可丁
|肥波球
|Pàng Kē Dīng
|Féi Bō Qiú
|-
|041
|{{p|Zubat}}
|超音蝠
|波音蝠
|Chāo Yīn Fú
|Bo Yīn Fú
|-
|042
|{{p|Golbat}}
|大嘴蝠
|大口蝠
|Dà Zǔi Fū
|Dà Kǒu Fū
|-
|043
|{{p|Oddish}}
|走路草
|行路草
|Zǒu Lù Cǎo
|Xíng Lù Cǎo
|-
|044
|{{p|Gloom}}
|臭臭花
|怪味花
|Chòu Chòu Huā
|Guài Wèi Huā
|-
|045
|{{p|Vileplume}}
|霸王花
|霸王花
|Bà Wáng Huā
|Bà Wáng Huā
|-
|046
|{{p|Paras}}
|派拉斯
|蘑菇蟲
|Pài Lā Sī
|Mó Gū Chóng
|-
|047
|{{p|Parasect}}
|派拉斯特
|巨菇蟲
|Pài Lā Sī Tè
|Jù Gū Chóng
|-
|048
|{{p|Venonat}}
|毛球
|毛毛蟲
|Máo Qiú
|Máo Máo Chóng
|-
|049
|{{p|Venomoth}}
|末入蛾
|魔魯風
|Mò Rù Ě
|Mò Lù Fēng
|-
|050
|{{p|Diglett}}
|地鼠
|地鼠
|Dì Shǔ
|Dì Shǔ
|-
|051
|{{p|Dugtrio}}
|三地鼠
|三頭地鼠
|Sān Dì Shǔ
|Sān Tóu Dì Shǔ
|}

===#052 - #101 Meowth - Electrode===
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|052
|{{p|Meowth}}
|喵喵
|喵喵怪
|
|
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|053
|{{p|Persian}}
|貓老大
|高竇貓
|
|
|-
|054
|{{p|Psyduck}}
|可達鴨
|傻鴨
|
|
|-
|055
|{{p|Golduck}}
|可達鴨
|高超鴨
|
|
|-
|056
|{{p|Mankey}}
|猴怪
|猴怪
|
|
|-
|057
|{{p|Primeape}}
|火爆猴
|火爆猴
|
|
|-
|058
|{{p|Growlithe}}
|卡蒂狗
|護主犬
|
|
|-
|059
|{{p|Arcanine}}
|風速狗
|奉神犬
|
|
|-
|060
|{{p|Poliwag}}
|蚊香蝌蚪
|蚊香蝌蚪
|
|
|-
|061
|{{p|Poliwhirl}}
|蚊香蛙
|蚊香蛙
|
|
|-
|062
|{{p|Poliwrath}}
|快泳蛙
|大力蛙
|
|
|-
|063
|{{p|Abra}}
|凱西
|卡斯
|
|
|-
|064
|{{p|Kadabra}}
|勇吉拉
|尤基納
|
|
|-
|065
|{{p|Alakazam}}
|胡地
|富迪
|
|
|-
|066
|{{p|Machop}}
|腕力
|鐵腕
|
|
|-
|067
|{{p|Machoke}}
|豪力
|大力
|
|
|-
|068
|{{p|Machamp}}
|怪力
|怪力
|
|
|-
|069
|{{p|Bellsprout}}
|喇叭芽
|喇叭芽
|
|
|-
|070
|{{p|Weepinbell}}
|口呆花
|口呆花
|
|
|-
|071
|{{p|Victreebel}}
|大食花
|大食花
|
|
|-
|072
|{{p|Tentacool}}
|瑪瑙水母
|大眼水母
|
|
|-
|073
|{{p|Tentacruel}}
|毒刺水母
|多腳水母
|
|
|-
|074
|{{p|Geodude}}
|小拳石
|小拳石
|
|
|-
|075
|{{p|Graveler}}
|隆隆石
|滾動石
|
|
|-
|076
|{{p|Golem}}
|隆隆岩
|滾動岩
|
|
|-
|077
|{{p|Ponyta}}
|小火馬
|小火馬
|
|
|-
|078
|{{p|Rapidash}}
|烈焰馬
|烈焰馬
|
|
|-
|079
|{{p|Slowpoke}}
|呆呆獸
|小呆獸
|
|
|-
|080
|{{p|Slowbro}}
|呆河馬
|大呆獸
|
|
|-
|081
|{{p|Magnemite}}
|小磁怪
|小磁怪
|
|
|-
|082
|{{p|Magneton}}
|三合一磁怪
|三合一磁怪
|
|
|-
|083
|{{p|Farfetch'd}}
|大蔥鴨
|火蔥鴨
|
|
|-
|084
|{{p|Doduo}}
|嘟嘟
|多多
|
|
|-
|085
|{{p|Dodrio}}
|嘟嘟利
|多多利
|
|
|-
|086
|{{p|Seel}}
|小海獅
|小海獅
|
|
|-
|087
|{{p|Dewgong}}
|白海獅
|白海獅
|
|
|-
|088
|{{p|Grimer}}
|臭泥
|爛泥怪
|
|
|-
|089
|{{p|Muk}}
|臭臭泥
|爛泥獸
|
|
|-
|090
|{{p|Shellder}}
|大舌貝
|貝殼怪
|
|
|-
|091
|{{p|Cloyster}}
|鐵甲貝
|鐵甲貝
|
|
|-
|092
|{{p|Gastly}}
|鬼斯
|鬼斯
|
|
|-
|093
|{{p|Haunter}}
|鬼斯通
|鬼斯通
|
|
|-
|094
|{{p|Gengar}}
|耿鬼
|耿鬼
|
|
|-
|095
|{{p|Onix}}
|大岩蛇
|大岩蛇
|
|
|-
|096
|{{p|Drowzee}}
|素利普
|食夢獸
|
|
|-
|097
|{{p|Hypno}}
|素利拍
|催眠師
|
|
|-
|098
|{{p|Krabby}}
|大鉗蟹
|大鉗蟹
|
|
|-
|099
|{{p|Kingler}}
|巨鉗蟹
|巨鉗蟹
|
|
|-
|100
|{{p|Voltorb}}
|雷電球
|霹靂蛋
|
|
|-
|101
|{{p|Electrode}}
|頑皮彈
|雷霆蛋
|
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===#102 - #151 Exeggcute - Mew===
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|102
||{{p|Exeggcute}}
|蛋蛋
|蛋蛋
|-
|103
|{{p|Exeggutor}}
|椰蛋樹
|椰樹獸
|-
|104
|{{p|Cubone}}
|可拉可拉
|卡拉卡拉
|-
|105
|{{p|Marowak}}
|嘎拉嘎拉
|格拉格拉
|-
|106
|{{p|Hitmonlee}}
|沙瓦郎
|沙古拉
|-
|107
|{{p|Hitmonchan}}
|艾比郎
|比華拉
|-
|108
|{{p|Lickitung}}
|大舌頭
|大舌頭
|-
|109
|{{p|Koffing}}
|瓦斯彈
|毒氣丸
|-
|110
|{{p|Weezing}}
|雙彈瓦斯
|毒氣雙子
|-
|111
|{{p|Rhyhorn}}
|鐵甲犀牛
|鐵甲犀牛
|-
|112
|{{p|Rhydon}}
|鐵甲暴龍
|鐵甲暴龍
|-
|113
|{{p|Chansey}}
|吉利蛋
|吉利蛋
|-
|114
|{{p|Tangela}}
|蔓籐怪
|長籐怪
|-
|115
|{{p|Kangaskhan}}
|袋龍
|袋獸
|-
|116
|{{p|Horsea}}
|墨海馬
|噴墨海馬
|-
|117
|{{p|Seadra}}
|海刺龍
|飛刺海馬
|-
|118
|{{p|Goldeen}}
|角金魚
|獨角金魚
|-
|119
|{{p|Seaking}}
|金魚王
|金魚王
|-
|120
|{{p|Staryu}}
|海星星
|海星星
|-
|121
|{{p|Starmie}}
|寶石海星
|寶石海星
|-
|122
|{{p|Mr. Mime}}
|吸盤魔偶
|吸盤小丑
|-
|123
|{{p|Scyther}}
|飛天螳螂
|飛天螳螂
|-
|124
|{{p|Jynx}}
|迷唇姐
|紅唇娃
|-
|125
|{{p|Electabuzz}}
|電擊獸
|電擊獸
|-
|126
|{{p|Magmar}}
|鴨嘴火龍
|鴨嘴火龍
|-
|127
|{{p|Pinsir}}
|大甲
|鉗刀甲蟲
|-
|128
|{{p|Tauros}}
|肯泰羅
|大隻牛
|-
|129
|{{p|Magikarp}}
|鯉魚王
|鯉魚王
|-
|130
|{{p|Gyarados}}
|暴鯉龍
|鯉魚龍
|-
|131
|{{p|Lapras}}
|乘龍
|背背龍
|-
|132
|{{p|Ditto}}
|百變怪
|百變怪
|-
|133
|{{p|Eevee}}
|伊布
|伊貝
|-
|134
|{{p|Vaporeon}}
|水精靈
|水伊貝
|-
|135
|{{p|Jolteon}}
|雷精靈
|雷伊貝
|-
|136
|{{p|Flareon}}
|火精靈
|火伊貝
|-
|137
|{{p|Porygon}}
|3D龍
|立方獸
|-
|138
|{{p|Omanyte}}
|菊石獸
|菊石獸
|-
|139
|{{p|Omastar}}
|多刺菊石獸
|多刺菊石獸
|-
|140
|{{p|Kabuto}}
|化石盔
|萬年蟲
|-
|141
|{{p|Kabutops}}
|鐮刀盔
|鐮刀蟲
|-
|142
|{{p|Aerodactyl}}
|化石翼龍
|化石飛龍
|-
|143
|{{p|Snorlax}}
|卡比獸
|卡比獸
|-
|144
|{{p|Articuno}}
|急凍鳥
|急凍鳥
|-
|145
|{{p|Zapdos}}
|閃電鳥
|雷鳥
|-
|146
|{{p|Moltres}}
|火焰鳥
|火鳥
|-
|147
|{{p|Dratini}}
|迷你龍
|迷你龍
|-
|148
|{{p|Dragonair}}
|哈克龍
|哈古龍
|-
|149
|{{p|Dragonite}}
|快龍
|啟暴龍
|-
|150
|{{p|Mewtwo}}
|超夢
|超夢夢
|-
|151
|{{p|Mew}}
|夢幻
|夢夢
|}

===#152 - #200 Chikorita - Misdreavus===
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|152
|{{p|Chikorita}}
|菊草葉
|菊草葉
|-
|153
|{{p|Bayleef}}
|月桂葉
|月桂葉
|-
|154
|{{p|Meganium}}
|大菊花
|大菊花
|-
|155
|{{p|Cyndaquil}}
|火球鼠
|火球鼠
|-
|156
|{{p|Quilava}}
|火岩鼠
|火岩鼠
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|157
|{{p|Typhlosion}}
|爆風獸
|火暴獸
|-
|158
|{{p|Totodile}}
|小鋸鱷
|小鋸鱷
|-
|159
|{{p|Croconaw}}
|藍鱷
|藍鱷
|-
|160
|{{p|Feraligatr}}
|大力鱷
|大力鱷
|-
|161
|{{p|Sentret}}
|尾立
|尾立
|-
|162
|{{p|Furret}}
|大尾立
|大尾立
|-
|163
|{{p|Hoothoot}}
|咕咕
|咕咕
|-
|164
|{{p|Noctowl}}
|貓頭夜鷹
|貓頭夜鷹
|-
|165
|{{p|Ledyba}}
|芭瓢蟲
|芭瓢蟲
|-
|166
|{{p|Ledian}}
|安瓢蟲
|安瓢蟲
|-
|167
|{{p|Spinarak}}
|線球
|線球
|-
|168
|{{p|Ariados}}
|阿利多斯
|阿利多斯
|-
|169
|{{p|Crobat}}
|叉字蝠
|叉字蝠
|-
|170
|{{p|Chinchou}}
|燈籠魚
|燈籠魚
|-
|171
|{{p|Lanturn}}
|電燈怪
|電燈怪
|-
|172
|{{p|Pichu}}
|皮丘
|比超
|-
|173
|{{p|Cleffa}}
|皮寶寶
|皮寶寶
|-
|174
|{{p|Igglybuff}}
|寶寶丁
|小波球
|-
|175
|{{p|Togepi}}
|波克比
|小刺蛋
|-
|176
|{{p|Togetic}}
|波克基古
|波克基古
|-
|177
|{{p|Natu}}
|天然雀
|天然雀
|-
|178
|{{p|Xatu}}
|天然鳥
|天然鳥
|-
|179
|{{p|Mareep}}
|咩利羊
|咩利羊
|-
|180
|{{p|Flaaffy}}
|綿綿
|綿綿
|-
|181
|{{p|Ampharos}}
|電龍
|電龍
|-
|182
|{{p|Bellossom}}
|美麗花
|美麗花
|-
|183
|{{p|Marill}}
|瑪力露
|馬利露
|-
|184
|{{p|Azumarill}}
|瑪力露麗
|馬利露麗
|-
|185
|{{p|Sudowoodo}}
|胡說樹
|鬍說樹
|-
|186
|{{p|Politoed}}
|牛蛙君
|牛蛙君
|-
|187
|{{p|Hoppip}}
|毽子草
|毽子草
|-
|188
|{{p|Skiploom}}
|毽子花
|毽子花
|-
|189
|{{p|Jumpluff}}
|毽子綿
|毽子綿
|-
|190
|{{p|Aipom}}
|長尾怪手
|長尾怪手
|-
|191
|{{p|Sunkern}}
|向日種子
|嚮日種子
|-
|192
|{{p|Sunflora}}
|向日花怪
|嚮日花怪
|-
|193
|{{p|Yanma}}
|陽陽瑪
|陽陽瑪
|-
|194
|{{p|Wooper}}
|烏波
|烏波
|-
|195
|{{p|Quagsire}}
|沼王
|沼王
|-
|196
|{{p|Espeon}}
|太陽精靈
|太陽伊貝
|-
|197
|{{p|Umbreon}}
|月精靈
|月伊貝
|-
|198
|{{p|Murkrow}}
|黑暗鴉
|黑暗鴉
|-
|199
|{{p|Slowking}}
|河馬王
|河馬王
|-
|200
|{{p|Misdreavus}}
|夢妖
|夢妖
|}

===#201 - #251 Unown - Celebi===
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|201
|{{p|Unown}}
|未知圖騰
|未知圖騰
|-
|202
|{{p|Wobbuffet}}
|果然翁
|果然翁
|-
|203
|{{p|Girafarig}}
|麒麟奇
|麒麟奇
|-
|204
|{{p|Pineco}}
|榛果球
|榛果球
|-
|205
|{{p|Forretress}}
|佛烈託斯
|佛烈託斯
|-
|206
|{{p|Dunsparce}}
|土龍弟弟
|土龍弟弟
|-
|207
|{{p|Gligar}}
|天蠍
|天蠍
|-
|208
|{{p|Steelix}}
|大鋼蛇
|大鋼蛇
|-
|209
|{{p|Snubbull}}
|布盧
|布魯
|-
|210
|{{p|Granbull}}
|布盧皇
|布魯皇
|-
|211
|{{p|Qwilfish}}
|千針魚
|千針魚
|-
|212
|{{p|Scizor}}
|巨鉗螳螂
|巨鉗螳螂
|-
|213
|{{p|Shuckle}}
|壺壺
|壺壺
|-
|214
|{{p|Heracross}}
|赫拉剋羅斯
|赫拉剋羅斯
|-
|215
|{{p|Sneasel}}
|扭拉
|狃拉
|-
|216
|{{p|Teddiursa}}
|熊寶寶
|熊寶寶
|-
|217
|{{p|Ursaring}}
|圈圈熊
|圈圈熊
|-
|218
|{{p|Slugma}}
|熔岩蟲
|熔岩蟲
|-
|219
|{{p|Magcargo}}
|熔岩蝸牛
|熔岩蝸牛
|-
|220
|{{p|Swinub}}
|小山豬
|小山豬
|-
|221
|{{p|Piloswine}}
|長毛豬
|長毛豬
|-
|222
|{{p|Corsola}}
|太陽珊瑚
|太陽珊瑚
|-
|223
|{{p|Remoraid}}
|鐵砲魚
|鐵炮魚
|-
|224
|{{p|Octillery}}
|章魚桶
|章魚桶
|-
|225
|{{p|Delibird}}
|信使鳥
|信使鳥
|-
|226
|{{p|Mantine}}
|巨翅飛魚
|巨翅飛魚
|-
|227
|{{p|Skarmory}}
|盔甲鳥
|盔甲鳥
|-
|228
|{{p|Houndour}}
|戴魯比
|戴魯比
|-
|229
|{{p|Houndoom}}
|黑魯加
|黑魯加
|-
|230
|{{p|Kingdra}}
|刺龍王
|刺龍王
|-
|231
|{{p|Phanpy}}
|小小象
|小小象
|-
|232
|{{p|Donphan}}
|頓甲
|冬凡
|-
|233
|{{p|Porygon2}}
|3D龍2
|立方獸2
|-
|234
|{{p|Stantler}}
|驚角鹿
|驚角鹿
|-
|235
|{{p|Smeargle}}
|圖圖犬
|圖圖犬
|-
|236
|{{p|Tyrogue}}
|巴爾郎
|巴爾郎
|-
|237
|{{p|Hitmontop}}
|柯波朗
|柯波朗
|-
|238
|{{p|Smoochum}}
|迷唇娃
|迷唇娃
|-
|239
|{{p|Elekid}}
|電擊怪
|電擊怪
|-
|240
|{{p|Magby}}
|小鴨嘴龍
|小鴨嘴龍
|-
|241
|{{p|Miltank}}
|大奶罐
|大奶罐
|-
|242
|{{p|Blissey}}
|幸福蛋
|幸福蛋
|-
|243
|{{p|Raikou}}
|雷公
|雷公
|-
|244
|{{p|Entei}}
|炎帝
|炎帝
|-
|245
|{{p|Suicune}}
|水君
|水君
|-
|246
|{{p|Larvitar}}
|由基拉
|由基拉
|-
|247
|{{p|Pupitar}}
|沙基拉
|沙基拉
|-
|248
|{{p|Tyranitar}}
|班吉拉
|班吉拉
|-
|249
|{{p|Lugia}}
|洛基亞
|利基亞
|-
|250
|{{p|Ho-Oh}}
|鳳王
|鳳凰
|-
|251
|{{p|Celebi}}
|雪拉比
|史利比
|}

===#252 - #301 Treecko - Delcatty===
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|252
|{{p|Treecko}}
|木守宮
|木守宮
|Mu Shou Gong
|Mu Shou Gong
|-
|253
|{{p|Grovyle}}
|森林蜥蜴
|森林蜥蜴
|Sen Lin Xi Yi
|Sen Lin Xi Yi
|-
|254
|{{p|Sceptile}}
|蜥蜴王
|蜥蜴王
|Xi Yi Wang
|Xi Yi Wang
|-
|255
|{{p|Torchic}}
|火稚鸡
|火稚雞
|Huo Zhi Ji
|Huo Zhi Ji
|-
|256
|{{p|Combusken}}
|力壮鸡
|力壯雞
|Li Zhuang Ji
|Li Zhuang Ji
|-
|257
|{{p|Blaziken}}
|火焰鸡
|火焰雞
|Huo Yan Ji
|Huo Yan Ji
|-
|258
|{{p|Mudkip}}
|水躍鱼
|水躍魚
|
|
|-
|259
|{{p|Marshtomp}}
|沼躍鱼
|沼躍魚
|
|
|-
|260
|{{p|Swampert}}
|巨沼怪
|巨沼怪
|
|
|-
|261
|{{p|Poochyena}}
|土狼犬
|土狼犬
|Tu Lang Quan
|Tu Lang Quan
|-
|262
|{{p|Mightyena}}
|大狼犬
|大狼犬
|Da Lang Quan
|Da Lang Quan
|-
|263
|{{p|Zigzagoon}}
|蛇纹熊
|蛇紋熊
|She Wen Xiong
|She Wen Xiong
|-
|264
|{{p|Linoone}}
|直冲熊
|直衝熊
|Zhi Chong Xiong
|Zhi Chong Xiong
|-
|265
|{{p|Wurmple}}
|刺尾虫
|刺尾蟲
|Ci Wei Chong
|Ci Wei Chong
|-
|266
|{{p|Silcoon}}
|甲殼蛹
|甲殼蛹
|Jia Ke Yong
|Jia Ke Yong
|-
|267
|{{p|Beautifly}}
|狩猎鳳蝶
|狩獵鳳蝶
|Shou Lie Feng Die
|
|-
|268
|{{p|Cascoon}}
|盾甲繭
|盾甲繭
|Dun Jia Lan
|
|-
|269
|{{p|Dustox}}
|毒粉蝶
|毒粉蝶
|De Fen Die
|Du Fen Die
|-
|270
|{{p|Lotad}}
|莲叶童子
|蓮葉童子
|Lian Ye Tong Zi
|Lian Ye Tong Zi
|-
|271
|{{p|Lombre}}
|莲帽小童
|蓮帽小童
|Lian Mao Xiao Tong
|Lian Mao Xiao Tong
|-
|272
|{{p|Ludicolo}}
|乐天河童
|樂天河童
|Le Tian He Tong
|Le Tian He Tong
|-
|273
|{{p|Seedot}}
|橡實果
|橡實果
|
|
|-
|274
|{{p|Nuzleaf}}
|长鼻叶
|長鼻葉
|Chang Bi Ye
|Chang Bi Ye
|-
|275
|{{p|Shiftry}}
|狡猾天狗
|狡猾天狗
|Jiao Hua Tian Gou
|Jiao Hua Tian Gou
|-
|276
|{{p|Taillow}}
|傲骨燕
|傲骨燕
|Ao Gu Yan
|Ao Gu Yan
|-
|277
|{{p|Swellow}}
|大王燕
|大王燕
|Da Wang Yan
|Da Wang Yan
|-
|278
|{{p|Wingull}}
|长翅鷗
|長翅鷗
|
|
|-
|279
|{{p|Pelipper}}
|大嘴鷗
|大嘴鷗
|
|
|-
|280
|{{p|Ralts}}
|拉魯拉絲
|拉蕾拉絲
|La Lu La Si
|
|-
|281
|{{p|Kirlia}}
|奇魯莉安
|奇魯莉安
|Qi Lu Li An
|Qi Lu Li An
|-
|282
|{{p|Gardevoir}}
|沙奈朵
|沙奈朵
|Sha Nai Duo
|Sha Nai Duo
|-
|283
|{{p|Surskit}}
|溜溜糖球
|溜溜糖球
|Liu Liu Tang Qiu
|Liu Liu Tang Qiu
|-
|284
|{{p|Masquerain}}
|雨翅蛾
|雨翅蛾
|Yu Chi É
|Yu Chi É
|-
|285
|{{p|Shroomish}}
|蘑蘑菇
|蘑蘑菇
|Mo Mo Gu
|Mo Mo Gu
|-
|286
|{{p|Breloom}}
|斗笠菇
|斗笠菇
|
|
|-
|287
|{{p|Slakoth}}
|懒人翁
|懶人翁
|Lan Ren Weng
|Lan Ren Weng
|-
|288
|{{p|Vigoroth}}
|过动猿
|過動猿
|
|
|-
|289
|{{p|Slaking}}
|请假王
|懶惰王
|Qing Jia Wang
|Lan Duo Wang
|-
|290
|{{p|Nincada}}
|土居忍士
|土居忍士
|Tu Ju Ren Shi
|Tu Ju Ren Shi
|-
|291
|{{p|Ninjask}}
|铁面忍者
|鐵面忍者
|Tie Mian Ren Zhe
|Tie Mian Ren Zhe
|-
|292
|{{p|Shedinja}}
|脱殼忍者
|脫殼忍者
|Tuo Ke Ren Zhe
|Tuo Ke Ren Zhe
|-
|293
|{{p|Whismur}}
|咕妞妞
|咕妞妞
|Gu Niu Niu
|Gu Niu Niu
|-
|294
|{{p|Loudred}}
|吼爆弹
|口爆彈
|
|
|-
|295
|{{p|Exploud}}
|爆音怪
|爆音怪
|Bao Yin Guai
|Bao Yin Guai
|-
|296
|{{p|Makuhita}}
|幕下力士
|幕下力士
|Mu Xia Li Shi
|Mu Xia Li Shi
|-
|297
|{{p|Hariyama}}
|超力王
|超力王
|Chao Li Wang
|Chao Li Wang
|-
|298
|{{p|Azurill}}
|露力丽
|露力麗
|Lu Li Li
|Lu Li Li
|-
|299
|{{p|Nosepass}}
|朝北鼻
|朝北鼻
|Chao Bei Bi
|Chao Bei Bi
|-
|300
|{{p|Skitty}}
|向尾喵
|向尾貓
|Xiang Wei Mao
|Xiang Wei Mao
|-
|301
|{{p|Delcatty}}
|优雅猫
|優雅貓
|You Ya Mao
|You Ya Mao
|}

===#302 - #350 Sableye - Milotic===
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|302
|{{p|Sableye}}
|勾魂眼
|勾魂眼
|
|
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|303
|{{p|Mawile}}
|大嘴娃
|大嘴娃
|Da Zui Wa
|Da Zui Wa
|-
|304
|{{p|Aron}}
|可可多拉
|可可多拉
|Ke Ke Duo La
|Ke Ke Duo La
|-
|305
|{{p|Lairon}}
|可多拉
|可多拉
|Ke Duo La
|Ke Duo La
|-
|306
|{{p|Aggron}}
|波士可多拉
|阿士可多拉
|Bo Shi Ke Duo La
|Ā Shi Ke Duo La
|-
|307
|{{p|Meditite}}
|瑪沙那
|瑪沙那
|-
|308
|{{p|Medicham}}
|恰雷姆
|恰雷姆
|-
|309
|{{p|Electrike}}
|落雷獸
|落雷獸
|-
|310
|{{p|Manectric}}
|雷电兽
|雷電獸
|Léi Diàn Shòu
|Léi Diàn Shòu
|-
|311
|{{p|Plusle}}
|正电拍拍
|正電拍拍
|Zheng Dian Pai Pai
|Zheng Dian Pai Pai
|-
|312
|{{p|Minun}}
|負电拍拍
|負電拍拍
|Fu Diàn Pāi Pāi
|Fu Diàn Pāi Pāi
|-
|313
|{{p|Volbeat}}
|电螢蟲
|電螢蟲
|
|
|-
|314
|{{p|Illumise}}
|甜甜螢
|甜甜螢
|Tian Tian Ying
|Tian Tian Ying
|-
|315
|{{p|Roselia}}
|毒薔薇
|毒薔薇
|-
|316
|{{p|Gulpin}}
|溶食獸
|溶食獸
|-
|317
|{{p|Swalot}}
|吞食獸
|吞食獸
|Tūn Shi Shou
|Tūn Shi Shou
|-
|318
|{{p|Carvanha}}
|利牙魚
|利牙魚
|Li Ya Yu
|
|-
|319
|{{p|Sharpedo}}
|巨牙鯊
|巨牙鯊
|
|
|-
|320
|{{p|Wailmer}}
|吼吼鯨
|口口鯨
|
|
|-
|321
|{{p|Wailord}}
|吼鯨王
|口鯨王
|
|
|-
|322
|{{p|Numel}}
|呆火駝
|呆火駝
|
|
|-
|323
|{{p|Camerupt}}
|噴火駝
|噴火駝
|
|
|-
|324
|{{p|Torkoal}}
|煤炭龟
|煤炭龜
|Méi Tàn Gūi
|Méi Tàn Gūi
|-
|325
|{{p|Spoink}}
|跳跳豬
|跳跳豬
|-
|326
|{{p|Grumpig}}
|噗噗豬
|噗噗豬
|-
|327
|{{p|Spinda}}
|晃晃斑
|晃晃斑
|-
|328
|{{p|Trapinch}}
|大顎蟻
|大顎蟻
|-
|329
|{{p|Vibrava}}
|超音波幼虫
|超音波幼蟲
|-
|330
|{{p|Flygon}}
|沙漠蜻蜓
|沙漠蜻蜓
|-
|331
|{{p|Cacnea}}
|沙漠奈亚
|沙漠奈亞
|-
|332
|{{p|Cacturne}}
|梦歌奈亚
|夢歌奈亞
|-
|333
|{{p|Swablu}}
|青綿鸟
|青綿鳥
|-
|334
|{{p|Altaria}}
|七夕青鸟
|七夕青鳥
|-
|335
|{{p|Zangoose}}
|猫鼬斬
|貓又斬
|-
|336
|{{p|Seviper}}
|饭匙蛇
|飯匙蛇
|-
|337
|{{p|Lunatone}}
|月石
|月石
|-
|338
|{{p|Solrock}}
|太阳岩
|太陽岩
|-
|339
|{{p|Barboach}}
|泥泥鰍
|泥泥鰍
|-
|340
|{{p|Whiscash}}
|鯰鱼王
|鯰魚王
|-
|341
|{{p|Corphish}}
|龙蝦小兵
|龍蝦小兵
|-
|342
|{{p|Crawdaunt}}
|铁螯龙蝦
|鐵螯龍蝦
|-
|343
|{{p|Baltoy}}
|天秤偶
|天秤偶
|-
|344
|{{p|Claydol}}
|念力土偶
|念力土偶
|Nian Li Tu Ōu
|Nian Li Tu Ōu
|-
|345
|{{p|Lileep}}
|觸手百合
|觸手百合
|-
|346
|{{p|Cradily}}
|搖籃百合
|搖籃百合
|Yao Lan Bai He
|Yao Lan Bai He
|-
|347
|{{p|Anorith}}
|太古羽蟲
|太古羽蟲
|-
|348
|{{p|Armaldo}}
|太古盔甲
|太古盔甲
|-
|349
|{{p|Feebas}}
|笨笨魚
|笨笨魚
|-
|350
|{{p|Milotic}}
|美納斯
|美納斯
|}

===#351 - #386 Castform - Deoxys===
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|351
|{{p|Castform}}
|漂浮泡泡
|漂浮泡泡
|Piāo Fú Pào Pào
|Piāo Fú Pào Pào
|-
|352
|{{p|Kecleon}}
|变隐龙
|變隱龍
|Biān Yīn Lóng
|Biān Yīn Lóng
|-
|353
|{{p|Shuppet}}
|怨影娃娃
|怨影娃娃
|
|
|-
|354
|{{p|Banette}}
|詛咒娃娃
|詛咒娃娃
|
|
|-
|355
|{{p|Duskull}}
|夜骷顱
|夜骷顱
|
|
|-
|356
|{{p|Dusclops}}
|夜巨人
|夜巨人
|Yè Jù Rén
|Yè Jù Rén
|-
|357
|{{p|Tropius}}
|热带龙
|熱帶龍
|Rè Dài Lóng
|Rè Dài Lóng
|-
|358
|{{p|Chimecho}}
|风玲玲
|風鈴鈴
|Fēng Líng Líng
|Fēng Líng Líng
|-
|359
|{{p|Absol}}
|阿勃梭魯
|阿勃梭魯
|
|
|-
|360
|{{p|Wynaut}}
|小果然
|果然仔
|Xiǎo Guǒ Rán
|Guǒ Rán Zǎi
|-
|361
|{{p|Snorunt}}
|雪童子
|雪童子
|Xuě Tóng Zǐ
|Xuě Tóng Zǐ
|-
|362
|{{p|Glalie}}
|冰鬼護
|冰鬼護
|
|
|-
|363
|{{p|Spheal}}
|海豹球
|海豹球
|Hǎi Bào Qiú
|Hǎi Bào Qiú
|-
|364
|{{p|Sealeo}}
|海魔狮
|海魔獅
|Hǎi Mó Shī
|Hǎi Mó Shī
|-
|365
|{{p|Walrein}}
|帝牙海狮
|帝牙海獅
|Dì Yǎ Hǎi Shī
|Dì Yǎ Hǎi Shī
|-
|366
|{{p|Clamperl}}
|珍珠贝
|珍珠貝
|Zhēn Zhū Bèi
|Zhēn Zhū Bèi
|-
|367
|{{p|Huntail}}
|猎斑鱼
|獵斑魚
|Liè Bān Yú
|Liè Bān Yú
|-
|368
|{{p|Gorebyss}}
|櫻花鱼
|櫻花魚
|Yīng Huā Yú
|Yīng Huā Yú
|-
|369
|{{p|Relicanth}}
|古空棘鱼
|古空棘魚
|
|
|-
|370
|{{p|Luvdisc}}
|爱心鱼
|愛心魚
|Ài Xīn Yú
|Ài Xīn Yú
|-
|371
|{{p|Bagon}}
|宝贝龙
|寶貝龍
|Bǎo Bèi Lóng
|Bǎo Bèi Lóng
|-
|372
|{{p|Shelgon}}
|甲殼龙
|甲殼龍
|Jiá Kē Lóng
|Jiá Kē Lóng
|-
|373
|{{p|Salamence}}
|暴蠑螈
|暴蠑螈
|
|
|-
|374
|{{p|Beldum}}
|铁啞玲
|鐵啞鈴
|Tié Yǎ Líng
|Tié Yǎ Líng
|-
|375
|{{p|Metang}}
|金屬怪
|金屬怪
|Jīn Shǔ Guài
|Jīn Shǔ Guài
|-
|376
|{{p|Metagross}}
|巨金怪
|巨金怪
|Jù Jīn Guài
|Jù Jīn Guài
|-
|377
|{{p|Regirock}}
|雷吉洛克
|雷吉洛克
|Léi Jī Luò Kě
|Léi Jī Luò Kě
|-
|378
|{{p|Regice}}
|雷吉艾斯
|雷吉艾斯
|Léi Jī Ài Sī
|Léi Jī Ài Sī
|-
|379
|{{p|Registeel}}
|雷吉斯奇鲁
|雷吉斯奇魯
|Léi Jī Sī Qí Lù
|Léi Jī Sī Qí Lù
|-
|380
|{{p|Latias}}
|拉帝亚斯
|拉帝亞斯
|Lā Dì Yā Sī
|Lā Dì Yā Sī
|-
|381
|{{p|Latios}}
|拉帝欧斯
|拉帝歐斯
|Lā Dì Ōu Sī
|Lā Dì Ōu Sī
|-
|382
|{{p|Kyogre}}
|蓋欧卡
|蓋歐卡
|Gài Ōu Kǎ
|Gài Ōu Kǎ
|-
|383
|{{p|Groudon}}
|固拉多
|固拉多
|Gū Lā Dūo
|Gū Lā Dūo
|-
|384
|{{p|Rayquaza}}
|裂空坐
|烈空坐
|Liè Kōng Zuò
|Liè Kōng Zuò
|-
|385
|{{p|Jirachi}}
|基拉祈
|基拉祈
|
|
|-
|386
|{{p|Deoxys}}
|代欧奇希斯
|代歐奇希斯
|Dài Ōu Qí Xī Sī
|Dài Ōu Qí Xī Sī
|}

===#387 - #400 Turtwig - Bibarel===
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|387
|{{p|Turtwig}}
|草苗龟
|草苗龜
|-
|388
|{{p|Grotle}}
|树林龟
|樹林龜
|Shù Lí Guī
|Shù Lí Guī
|-
|389
|{{p|Torterra}}
|土台龟
|庭園龜
|-
|390
|{{p|Chimchar}}
|小火焰猴
|小火焰猴
|-
|391
|{{p|Monferno}}
|猛火猿
|猛火猴
|-
|392
|{{p|Infernape}}
|烈焰猴
|業火猴
|-
|393
|{{p|Piplup}}
|波加曼
|波加曼
|-
|394
|{{p|Prinplup}}
|波皇子
|波皇子
|Bō Wáng Zǐ
|Bō Wáng Zǐ
|-
|395
|{{p|Empoleon}}
|帝王拿波
|帝王拿波
|-
|396
|{{p|Starly}}
|姆克兒
|姆克兒
|-
|397
|{{p|Staravia}}
|姆克鳥
|姆克鳥
|-
|398
|{{p|Staraptor}}
|姆克鷹
|姆克鷹
|-
|399
|{{p|Bidoof}}
|大牙狸
|大牙狸
|Dà Yá Lí
|Dà Yá Lí
|-
|400
|{{p|Bibarel}}
|大尾狸
|大尾狸
|Dà Wěi Lí
|Dà Wěi Lí
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===#401 - #450 Kricketot - Hippowdon===
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|{{p|Kricketot}}
|圓法師
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|{{p|Kricketune}}
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|{{p|Budew}}
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|407
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|羅絲雷朵
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|408
|{{p|Cranidos}}
|頭蓋龍
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|409
|{{p|Rampardos}}
|戰槌龍
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|410
|{{p|Shieldon}}
|盾甲龍
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|411
|{{p|Bastiodon}}
|護城龍
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|412
|{{p|Burmy}}
|結草兒
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|413
|{{p|Wormadam}}
|結草貴婦
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|414
|{{p|Mothim}}
|紳士蛾
|紳士蛾
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|415
|{{p|Combee}}
|三蜜蜂
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|416
|{{p|Vespiquen}}
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|417
|{{p|Pachirisu}}
|帕奇利茲
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|418
|{{p|Buizel}}
|泳氣鼬
|泳氣鼬
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|419
|{{p|Floatzel}}
|浮潛鼬
|浮潛鼬
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|420
|{{p|Cherubi}}
|櫻花寶
|櫻花寶
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|421
|{{p|Cherrim}}
|櫻花兒
|櫻花兒
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|422
|{{p|Shellos}}
|無殼海牛
|無殼海牛
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|423
|{{p|Gastrodon}}
|海牛獸
|海牛獸
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|424
|{{p|Ambipom}}
|雙尾怪手
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|425
|{{p|Drifloon}}
|飄飄球
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|426
|{{p|Drifblim}}
|附和氣球
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|427
|{{p|Buneary}}
|捲捲耳
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|428
|{{p|Lopunny}}
|女郎兔
|女郎兔
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|429
|{{p|Mismagius}}
|夢妖魔
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|430
|{{p|Honchkrow}}
|烏鴉頭頭
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|431
|{{p|Glameow}}
|魅力喵
|魅力喵
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|432
|{{p|Purugly}}
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|433
|{{p|Chingling}}
|鈴噹響
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|434
|{{p|Stunky}}
|臭鼬噗
|臭鼬噗
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|435
|{{p|Skuntank}}
|坦克臭鼬
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|436
|{{p|Bronzor}}
|銅鏡怪
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|437
|{{p|Bronzong}}
|青銅鐘
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|438
|{{p|Bonsly}}
|愛哭樹
|愛哭樹
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|439
|{{p|Mime Jr.}}
|魔尼尼
|魔尼尼
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|440
|{{p|Happiny}}
|好運蛋
|好運蛋
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|441
|{{p|Chatot}}
|聒噪鳥
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|442
|{{p|Spiritomb}}
|花岩怪
|花岩怪
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|443
|{{p|Gible}}
|圓陸鯊
|圓陸鯊
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|444
|{{p|Gabite}}
|尖牙陸鯊
|尖牙陸鯊
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|445
|{{p|Garchomp}}
|烈咬陸鯊
|烈咬陸鯊
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|446
|{{p|Munchlax}}
|小卡比獸
|小卡比獸
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|447
|{{p|Riolu}}
|利歐路
|利歐路
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|448
|{{p|Lucario}}
|路卡利歐
|路卡利歐
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|449
|{{p|Hippopotas}}
|怪河馬
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|450
|{{p|Hippowdon}}
|河馬獸
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===#451 - #493 Skorupi - Arceus===

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|{{p|Skorupi}}
|紫天蝎
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|{{p|Croagunk}}
|不良蛙
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|{{p|Toxicroak}}
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|455
|{{p|Carnivine}}
|尖牙笼
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|456
|{{p|Finneon}}
|荧光鱼
|螢光魚
|螢光魚
|Ying Guang Yu
|Ying Guang Yu
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|457
|{{p|Lumineon}}
|霓虹鱼
|霓虹魚
|霓虹魚
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|458
|{{p|Mantyke}}
|小球飞鱼
|小球飛魚
|小球飛魚
|Xiao Qiu Fei Yu
|Xiao Qiu Fei Yu
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|459
|{{p|Snover}}
|雪笠怪
|雪笠怪
|雪笠怪
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|460
|{{p|Abomasnow}}
|暴雪王
|暴雪王
|暴雪王
|Bao Xue Wang
|Bao Xue Wang
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|461
|{{p|Weavile}}
|玛狃拉
|瑪狃拉
|瑪狃拉
|Ma Niu La
|Ma Niu La
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|462
|{{p|Magnezone}}
|自爆磁怪
|自爆磁怪
|自爆磁怪
|Zi Bao Ci Guai
|Zi Bao Ci Guai
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|463
|{{p|Lickilicky}}
|大舌舔
|大舌舔
|大舌舔
|Da She Tian
|Da She Tian
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|464
|{{p|Rhyperior}}
|超铁暴龙
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|Chao Tie Bao Long
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|{{p|Tangrowth}}
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|巨蔓藤
|巨蔓藤
|Ju Man Teng
|Ju Man Teng
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|466
|{{p|Electivire}}
|电击魔兽
|電擊魔獸
|電擊魔獸
|Dian Ji Mo Shou
|Dian Ji Mo Shou
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|467
|{{p|Magmortar}}
|鸭嘴焰龙
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|鴨嘴焰龍
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|Ya Zui Yan Huo
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|468
|{{p|Togekiss}}
|波克基斯
|波克基斯
|波克基斯
|Bo Ke Ji Si
|Bo Ke Ji Si
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|469
|{{p|Yanmega}}
|梅卡阳玛
|梅卡陽瑪
|梅卡陽瑪
|Mei Ka Yang Ma
|Mei Ka Yang Ma
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|470
|{{p|Leafeon}}
|叶精灵
|葉精靈
|葉伊貝
|Ye Jing Ling
|Ye Yi Bei
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|471
|{{p|Glaceon}}
|冰精灵
|冰精靈
|冰伊貝
|Bing Jing Lin
|Bin Yi Bei
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|{{p|Gliscor}}
|天蝎王
|天蠍王
|天蠍王
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|{{p|Mamoswine}}
|象牙猪
|象牙豬
|象牙豬
|Xiang Ya Zhu
|Xiang Ya Zhu
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|474
|{{p|Porygon-Z}}
|3D龙Z
|3D龍Z
|立方獸Z
|3D ''Long'' Z
|''Li Fang Shou'' Z
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|475
|{{p|Gallade}}
|艾路雷朵
|艾路雷朵
|艾路雷朵
|Ai Lu Lei Duo
|Ai Lu Lei Duo
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|476
|{{p|Probopass}}
|大朝北鼻
|大朝北鼻
|大朝北鼻
|Da Chao Bei Bi
|Da Chao Bei Bi
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|477
|{{p|Dusknoir}}
|夜黑魔人
|夜黑魔人
|夜黑魔人
|Ye Hei Mo Ren
|Ye Hei Mo Ren
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|{{p|Froslass}}
|雪妖女
|雪妖女
|雪妖女
|Xue Yao Nǚ
|Xue Yao Nǚ
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|479
|{{p|Rotom}}
|洛托姆
|洛托姆
|洛托姆
|Luo Tuo Mu
|Luo Tuo Mu
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|480
|{{p|Uxie}}
|由克希
|由克希
|由克希
|You Ke Xi
|You Ke Xi
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|481
|{{p|Mesprit}}
|艾姆利多
|艾姆利多
|艾姆利多
|Ai Mu Li Duo
|Ai Mu Li Duo
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|482
|{{p|Azelf}}
|亚克诺姆
|亞克諾姆
|亞古諾姆
|Ya Ke Nuo Mu
|Ya Gu Nuo Mu
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|483
|{{p|Dialga}}
|帝牙卢卡
|帝牙盧卡
|帝牙盧卡
|Dì
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|484
|{{p|Palkia}}
|帕路奇犽
|帕路奇犽
|帕路奇犽
|Pa Lu Qi Ya
|Pa Lu Qi Ya
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|485
|{{p|Heatran}}
|席多蓝恩
|席多藍恩
|席多藍恩
|Xí Duō Lán Ēn
|Xí Duō Lán Ēn
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|486
|{{p|Regigigas}}
|雷吉奇卡斯
|雷吉奇卡斯
|雷吉奇卡斯
|Lei Ji Qi Ka Si
|Lei Ji Qi Ka Si
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|487
|{{p|Giratina}}
|骑拉帝纳
|騎拉帝納
|騎拉帝納
|Qí Lā Dì Nà
|Qí Lā Dì Nà
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|488
|{{p|Cresselia}}
|克雷色利亚
|克雷色利亞
|克雷色利亞
|Ke Lei Se Li Ya
|Ke Lei Se Li Ya
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|489
|{{p|Phione}}
|霏欧纳
|霏歐納
|霏歐納
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|Fei Ōu Na
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|490
|{{p|Manaphy}}
|玛纳霏
|瑪納霏
|瑪納霏
|Ma Na Fei
|Ma Na Fei
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|491
|{{p|Darkrai}}
|达克莱伊
|達克萊伊
|達克萊伊
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|492
|{{p|Shaymin}}
|洁咪
|潔咪
|潔咪
|Lei Mi
|Lei Mi
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|493
|{{p|Arceus}}
|超神兽
|超神獸
|超神獸
|Chāo Shén Shòu
|Chāo Shén Shòu
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Talk:Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver Versions/Archive 1

2009-06-17T07:27:55Z

Joe9320: /* I FOUND SOMETHING AFTER WATCHING STUFF LIKE A HO-OH! */

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| <big><big><big>'''Remember, {{color2|000|Bulbapedia:Talk page|talk pages}} are meant for discussing the article itself, not the content. To post all your wild theories and random questions about the content of the games, see [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/forumdisplay.php?f=368 {{color|1b45c1|this forum section}}].'''</big></big></big>

By the way, everyone's paying attention LIKE A HAWK to any and all information concerning HGSS. Cool it. We will have stuff up and ready as soon as time allows.
|}{{-}}

==Images==
Uh, what's up with the images? I wanna see the covers NOW!!! [[User:Sidnoea|Sidnoea]] 04:15, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
:Request denied. We've just moved over to a new setup so there's a glitch in the thumbnails. No game boxart has yet been released, all we have is the logo. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:18, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

Couldn't we simply use the HeartGold and SoulSilver logos that are currently on the Japanese Nintendo website?
It's the official visual representation of the new games currently, so my opinion is that they are best used until other official images are revealed.
*They're not showing up due to a glitch, as TTEchidna already stated. [[User:Frugali|Frugali]] 06:20, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

== Players ==

Why does it say "2 players simultaneous"? The others say "1-4 players simultaneous", is it a mistake or did Nintendo just changed the whole idea behind the gameplay?[[User:Mr. Charlie|Mr. ]][[User talk:Mr. Charlie|Charlie]] 09:11, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
:I'm guessing that's coz nothing's confirmed, but its fairly obvious that the two-player connection will remain. While it's quite likely the likes of the Union Room will let more than two players connect at once, I'll let TTE make that call. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 09:23, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
::Unless we hear from Nintendo that this game is only possible to play with two people I really think it should at least read "1-2 players simultaneous." Multiplayer-only games exist, but it would be extremely unprecedented if this was one of them--[[User:Barakku|Barakku]] 17:12, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

== Gen V ==

Shouldn't this game be a Generation V game? [[User:AlienX2008|AlienX2008]] 11:06, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
:I don't see why, as long as it's fully compatible with DPP. We'll find out more later, I guess. --[[User:Martonimos|((Marton]] [[User talk:Martonimos|imos))]] 11:07, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
::Generation V would introduce new Pokémon. As this is a remake, we're leaning towards Gen IV. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 11:09, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
:::But didn't the originals open Gen II? This could just be the front cover of the Gen V book. They can program in new Pokémon and not use them if they like. [[User:Gywall|'''Gywall''']] [[User_talk:Gywall|Talk]] 11:11, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
::::But [[FireRed and LeafGreen]] did not start Generation III.--[[User:Purimpopoie|Purimpopoie]] 11:13, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
:::::You're missing the point, as Gen II introduced the [[Time Capsule]] which blocked current generation data entering the previous generation. [[User:Gywall|'''Gywall''']] [[User_talk:Gywall|Talk]] 11:22, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
:::::No Gywall, once again, it is you who is missing the point. Just as FireRed LeafGreen were the same generation, so will be HeartGold and MoonSilver.[[User:Max King|Max King]] 17:11, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
::::::They're Gen IV games. Dammit, everyone quit wishing for Gen V or the end of Pokémon already. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 14:42, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
::::::Hah, Gywall got told. Isn't it obvious they are Gen 4? I really cant understand how people think they could be Gen 5? What has changed between them and Platinum? Nothing is what. [[User:Max King|Max King]] 17:10, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
:::::::I'm going to make one point here ''really'' clear right now. While I have absolutely no authority to do this, if you are wishing for the end of Pokémon, I see no reason why you should be here, and I'm going to have to ask whoever is wishing for the end to leave. Generation V, however, you can wish for all you like, but its not likely to appear until at least 2010, possibly even 2011.--[[User:Tmwps|Thomas Michael William Patrick Sales]] 15:18, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
::::::::Its likely to appear when the next portable Nintendo game system is out.--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 15:27, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

I see even more proof that these are NOT going to be Gen V games (which you guys seem to have missed). What are the only times a new region has been introduced in the main series games? AT THE START OF A GENERATION. HG & SS are NOT '''introducing''' a ''new'' zone, they're '''returning''' to an ''old'' zone. [[User:Diachronos|Diachronos]] 17:16, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
:Yes, and remember that new generations have come out when a new ''GameBoy'' or ''Nintendo'' portable console is introduced. Wish will likely happen in 2011, because of the usual two year gap. I also wanted them to be gen. V, but that would've messed up the two year gap.--[[User talk:AOS|AOS]] 04:06, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
:Don't forget that besides introducing a whole new region, each generation starts with new player characters!--[[User:Pokelova|''I'm Pokelova'']][[User talk:Pokelova|<big>''(Talk)''</big>]] 10:38, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

They can't really be considered Generation V, since they don't introduce a new region, new Pokemon, and new player characters. Nintendo will have probably released the successor to the DS by the time Generation V starts. Besides, FireRed and LeafGreen were remakes of Red and Blue, but they were still considered Generation III because they were released on GBA and could communicate with Ruby and Sapphire. So, HeartGold and SoulSilver should still be considered Generation IV. [[User:Link 486|Link 486]] 15:23, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

Leave off Gywall. He/She is missing a few brain cells.{{u|Laxafett}} 17:05, 10 May 2009(UTC)

I definitely don't consider this Generation V because while Generation III released the re-releases between the first two games and the additional game which in that case is Emerald, for Generation IV it is the same concept except that the re-releases were released last, kind of like doing it backwards and personally the whole Generation V rumor is false. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 15:47, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

== Link for the french article ==
Since there has been no announcement for an european release yet, the french article bears a tentative title :
[[fr:Pokémon versions Coeur d'Or et Âme d'Argent (Noms pressentis)|Pokémon versions Coeur d'Or et Âme d'Argent (Noms pressentis)]]. Godspeed ! --[[User:InvocK|InvocK]] 11:10, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
:Cool, thanks, I've updated the interwiki link. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 11:28, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

==Another Feeble suggestion==
Should we mix in the article about the Gold and Silver Remake rumor into this one. Its good to give an insight to what happened before the games release.--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 11:35, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
:Maybe just a "See also" [[User:Tc26/Anime Predictions|tc]][[User:Tc26|²₆]][[User talk:Tc26|tc]][[User:Tc26/Sandbox|26]] 11:36, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

Yes yes Link the rumer page to this but what of Crystal? Pokémon Crystal Mind? [[User:Random Chaos|Random]] [[User talk:Random Chaos|Chaos]] [[User:Random Chaos/Sandbox|☆]][http://chaos-shepherd.deviantart.com/ ☃] 12:58, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
:Seeing as there may not be a third game remake, Crystal has nothing to do with these gems--[[User:Force Fire|FF]]([[Special:Contributions/Force Fire|edits]]•[[User talk:Force Fire|talk]]) 13:02, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

::Actually, you never really know. They might include some Crystal elements in the G/S remakes, the most obvious of which (aside from gender choice which has since become standard) would probably be the {{jo|Battle Tower}}. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 14:29, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
:::Or another Battle Frontier, bringing the total to 3, reminding that 2 of them are in Gen IV. And the probability is that they include all the elements from Crystal in HG/SS, like they did include all the elements from Blue in FR/LG. Yellow doesn't count as it was the fourth Gen I game and it was a special version rather than a common version, even though it had improvements over Blue and introduced prototypes of game mechanics that would make their real final introduction in G/S. That's why they didn't remake it. [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 17:57, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
::::Erm... There wasn't much to include from Blue. And what elements from Blue do you see in FR/LG? --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 18:03, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
:::::OK, maybe there aren't that much elements (if any) from Blue taken to FR/LG but the only reason I mentioned them was for the sake of comparison. [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 18:22, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
::::::Hmmm... no elements of Blue in FRLG? The cries? The catch rates? The fact that it was translated? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:40, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
:::::::If anything, they'll include from Crystal the legendary gerbils' battle music, Sneasel appearing in the Ice Cave, and Weezing in the Burnt Tower (I hope!), but not much else. [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] wants YOU! [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch/Bulbapedia Branch|Join the Order of the Glitch!]] [[User talk: Missingno. Master|(my talk page)]] 11:01, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
::::::::Well, with the exception of the cries (they're from R/G; Blue didn't change them), you're right, TTE. And as for Missingno. Master, of course they'll include much more from Crystal than that, IMO. =D [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 14:52, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::I do hope they retain at least the Battle Tower, though i don't think a Battle Frontier will happen again as thats in Platinum already, which means if people want a Battle Frontier they will buy Platinum (so Nintendo can make more cash probably). They might do a Trainer Tower-esque thing like in FR/LG. I wonder if the Red Gyarados will be kept?[[User:494alex]]

::::::::::The red Gyarados should return, as it was one of the major plot points. It was also mentioned in the opening TV thing in Diamond and Pearl, another indicator that it will probably return. --[[User:Galladeon|Galladeon]] 06:01, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

== Version-exclusives between Japanese and English versions ==

I'm surprised no one thought on this yet, even though it's all speculation right now. But do you think they'll do the same as in G/S? I mean, for some odd reason, Nintendo of America switched Teddiursa and Ursaring to Gold while Phanpy and Donphan were switched to Silver. In the Japanese versions, it's the opposite. [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 20:48, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
:Most likely, they'll include the English Version-Exclusives as they did with the R/G ->R/B remakes. (FYI, They kept the version-exlusives as they were in Red and Blue, though this doesn't prove anything because of the Japanese R/G/B fiasco.) [[User:Dark_Boye|Da]][[User talk:Dark_Boye|rk Bo]][[User:Dark_Boye|ye]] 00:07, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
::FRLG's exclusives were messed with with regards to RG. RB had the same exclusives as RG, FRLG messed with it. The Psyduck and Slowpoke families weren't originally exclusives, while the Mankey and Meowth families were, nor were Shellder's and Staryu's families. For the most part they remain the same between I and III. I'd bet similarly on this. Plus, we used Red and Green in Gen III, so I'd bet they'll keep with the original exclusives, if both families aren't available in both games. Seeing as we've got new Pokémon to deal with, too, I'd bet Gligar and Aipom become somewhat exclusive. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:08, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
:::I bet the version exclusives are Pokémon that have similar evolution that are Version-exclusives like Sneasel and Gligar. {{u|Laxafett}} 17:14, 10 May 2009(UTC)
::::We should wait until they are released. [[User:Galladeon|Galladeon]] 00:21, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

== Image ==

Follow this link to see a picture of HG SS: http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml [[User:ShinyPikachu|ŚĥîΠŶPî₭₳ĉĥŭ]] 23:51, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

:In which case, should the possibility of the feature seemingly demonstrated in said screen be mentioned in the page itself? --[[User:Turaga Dlakii|Turaga Dlakii]] ([[User talk:Turaga Dlakii|Talk!]]) 00:28, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
::I would say. It should be mentioned, as It incorporates a feature from Yellow. (Walking with your Pokémon)[[User:ShinyPikachu|ŚĥîΠŶPî₭₳ĉĥŭ]] 00:40, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

== New Starter Artwork ==

Hey guys, Serebii.net just got some new shots showing new Ken Sugimori artwork for the Jhoto Starters Chikorita, Cyndaquil, and Totodile. Can someone get the images and put them on the Pokémon's respective pages? Thank you, --[[User:Dialgafan1|Dialgafan1]] 00:57, 10 May 2009 (UTC)Dialgafan1
:Cool it, man. Don't you know how much ''I'm'' paying attention to all matters HGSS? We can only work so fast. And it's "Johto", not "Jhoto". '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:11, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
:::I took care of that (partially)--'''[[User:Prmatt11|''Mew'']] [[User talk:Prmatt11|a.k.a.]] [[Special:Contributions/Prmatt11|Prmatt11]]''' at 02:04, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
:: Hehe, could we add the screenshot and maybe the artworks to a gallery section for this page? {{tt|We're|Hopefully...}} gonna need one by next week anyway. [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 02:00, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
:::New art goes on the Pokémon's page. We don't have 151+ new artworks on FRLG's page. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:43, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

== Screenshot Gallery ==
<gallery>
File:HGSS_NewBark_Serebii.JPG|In New Bark Town
File:NewBark HGSS.jpg|New Bark Town map 
</gallery>
<gallery>
File:152Chikorita.png| {{p|Chikorita}}
File:155Cyndaquil.png| {{p|Cyndaquil}}
File:158Totodile.png| {{p|Totodile}}
</gallery>
Add more, then add-to-page!--'''[[User:Prmatt11|''Mew'']] [[User talk:Prmatt11|a.k.a.]] [[Special:Contributions/Prmatt11|Prmatt11]]''' at 02:04, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
:Tada! The Totodile pic is on the way [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 02:26, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
::Um I can only see cyndaquil! And where did you find these. --[[User:Landfish7| Land]][[User talk:Landfish7|fish]][[User talk:Landfish7|7]] 14:01, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
:::I can see chikoritas on her page but i don't see it here. And I haven't seen Totodile's at all. --[[User:Landfish7| Land]][[User talk:Landfish7|fish]][[User talk:Landfish7|7]] 14:06, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
::::The archive is still a little crazy from what I understand. Totodile's pic is visible at its page as well. With luck, these problems will be fixed today. [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 14:21, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
:::::It's a little early for a gallery, isn't it? On this page, we only need one picture from that little footage of Gold and Chikorita. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 14:26, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
::::::It's because CoroCoro will likely give us more images within a few days. [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 00:04, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

== ESRB - May 09 "Rating" ==

As the game isn't due for release yet and ESRB quite probably hasn't rated it yet. (Tell me where it says E for these games? The offical site doesn't.) Should we remove the Rating or put the word ASSUMED next to the rating? I know it's most likely to get the E Rating, but I don't think we should jump the gun. [[User:Big Nutter|Big Nutter]] 02:57, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
:Noted. Thanks. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 03:01, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
:I don't think it's ''really'' jumping the gun, since apparently they've been meting out E ratings by merit of being Pokémon (Platinum and PMD2 got pretty...heavy for E-rated games) but yes, it still shouldn't be there.—[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 03:02, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
::Nah, with the game corner, we'll obviously have it rated M. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:44, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

:::I don't think game covers really warrant ESRB ratings spikes. Here's my [[$1|2¢]] prediction: The translation goes a bit too far, and one of the new features teased might be expanded gambling, and as a result, HeartGold and SoulSilver get E10+.

:::In any event, regardless of anyone's predictions, we probably shouldn't list any rating unless it's officially listed with one. And not just the ESRB--in the event an infobox might be appended to include other countries' rating systems (Japan's CERO, Europe's PEGI, etc.), we're best waiting for official ratings from those boards too. Just because Pokémon games have followed ratings trends doesn't mean they can't be broken--PEGI usually gives Pokémon games 3+ ratings, but Battle Revolution got slapped with a 7+. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 04:21, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
:::Dude, I totally forgot about the Game Corner. Are they using the same rationale the Japanese government uses for pachinko or something? If you don't redeem your chips in the same building as the casino, it's not gambling? :|—[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 04:45, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
::::...wait seriously? Damn, so that's how they got away with it this whole time! '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 07:56, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
:::::Well TTE, following your idea, then it wouldn't be a M-rated game but rather a T-rated game. Still, I don't think they'll ever give a Pokémon game a rating higher than E or E10+ (if that's ever going to happen =D). It's not like the games have porn or violent contents. [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 11:33, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
::::::So... killling small monsters is not violence? --[[User:Nick.|Nick.]], <sc>[[User talk:Nick.|something to say?]]</sc> 14:51, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
:::::::They don't die, they faint. FAINT. --[[User:Martonimos|((Marton]] [[User talk:Martonimos|imos))]] 14:56, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
:You just beat them up into a coma. Huge difference. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|You enter a poorly lit room...]] 14:58, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
::I think lighting them on fire with Flamethrower would count as violence '''''[[User:Shiny Rayquaza|Shiny]] [[User talk:Shiny Rayquaza|Rayquaza]]''''' 15:01, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
:::It's kidding man, they'll rate it E, or E+10 if they're bored. There's no discussion for that --[[User:Nick.|Nick.]], <sc>[[User talk:Nick.|something to say?]]</sc> 15:02, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
::::If they had something like a Kingdom Hearts style where you go around beating the crap out of people for money and to steal their Pokémon, THEN we're talking T or M. Otherwise, they'll all be E or E10+. Seriously. The Game Corner isn't that bad. All of the games have gambling anyways, and they've always passed it off. And it's not even close to real gambling where you lose your home if you go into debt, which you can't. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 17:45, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
:::::And Nintendo isn't stupid. The won't jump from E to T-M for that reason. They'd lose a lot of money if they do it... and you know, they really don't care even if they're taking the poor children to gambling ---[[User:Nick.|Nick.]], <sc>[[User talk:Nick.|something to say?]]</sc> 18:58, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
::::::A lot of things will get you more into gambling than Pokémon ever could, anyway. Like... your own parents. I'd bet E's where it will be, undoubtedly, and I dare the ESRB to have the balls to prove me wrong. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:24, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

== New gameplay video ==

The new gameplay video reveals the new visual effects. Also aparently your pokemon can now follow you around outside of battle like pikachu in pokemon Yellow. Weather or not this is limited to starter pokemon is unknown. (unless the video states it in japanese, translation of the video is required).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4DDps8bHDo
--[[User:CloudHiro|CloudHiro]] 20:15, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
:That's actually an OLD video. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 06:26, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
::By like two days. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 06:49, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
:::Haha, I was going to say that - this was just shown on Pokémon Sunday, which is an official source, so it is most definitely the most recent update we have, "old" or not. ;) [[User:Jazzmoth|Jazzmoth]] 06:53, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
:::Nothing significant is said during that video, CloudHiro, don't worry. It basically amounts to ''Jesus Christ that Chikorita is following him like Ash's Pikachu kajdbgajkdg''—[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 06:53, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
::::And here I thought they would have intelligent things to say... '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 12:34, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
:::::Apparently not... --[[User:Galladeon|Galladeon]] 05:58, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

==Wind==

The video shows that New Bark Town now has wind, should this be added? --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 03:28, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

"Yeh i saw that too"[[User:Gio12|Gio12]] 03:32, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
:Probably not yet. When we make the "Aesthetic changes" section, then we can add it. And are we even sure it's New Bark Town? That's another reason why. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 03:34, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
::The video clearly shows Silver staring into Elm's lab just like he did in G/S/C. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 03:57, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
:::Remember that they're remakes just like FR and LG, the story-line will not change much, it will perhaps just be an extension of something. And about the wind, I saw it too but lets just wait until further details. We can't just keep on editing useless information that will just confuse the reader. It is New Bark, but all this type of discussions should be discuss on forums.--[[User talk:AOS|AOS]] 06:11, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Yeh i agree, I saw Silver staring at the Big house which they say the Elm`s Lab..You`ve got to learn somthing Hunter Blade kiddo...It is the New Bark Town where Elm`s Lab located....And the [[Chikorita]] thing there, I think that only starters can come out at their Pokéball....[[User:Gio12|Gio12]] 07:58, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Hey, I've just noticed something! The sign in New Bark Town says "The Town where the winds of a new beginning blow". Now there really is wind there! [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 10:47, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

:^<nowiki>*</nowiki>Goes to kill himself* No shit, it's been there from the [[Pokémon Gold and Silver Versions|beginning]]--[[User:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Ho-Oh (Pokémon)|orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Lugia (Pokémon)|ire]] 10:51, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
::<nowiki>*</nowiki>Sarcastically* WIND!!!! Best feature in the entire game!!!!--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 10:55, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
:::ZOMFG PURE FLYING CASTFORM!!!one!eleven... Uh... none of this {{bp|talk page|helps the article}}. Get to the forums for this crap. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 11:13, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
::::And people complain about my behavior... [[User:Galladeon|Galladeon]] 02:26, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

== First gameplay screenshot ==

Shouldn't we delete that. Not only it isn't showing, but what does it have to do with the article? I think that should be on the [[Pokémon Gold and Silver remake speculation]].--[[User talk:AOS|AOS]] 06:18, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
:One image would be enough. It's an official screenshot, so what made you think it would fit on a speculation page? '''[[User:Kevzo8|Kev]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|zo8]]''' 06:41, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
::I agree on the delete part though, get a fresh one, that image is broken. [[User:Pyrix|Pyrix]] 20:46, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
:::EVERYTHING'S BROKEN, if no one's noticed yet. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:59, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
::::So you guys seriously haven't seen every that other page is having this problem? '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 21:51, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

== JPN release date ==

Someone on [http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=15813741&postcount=1164 NeoGAF] reposted what is apparently a 2ch post revealing info from this month's CoroCoro on the game. Anyone with good Japanese translation skills able to confirm? ([http://up2.viploader.net/pic/src/viploader1012351.jpg Also, a picture of the issue's cover.]) [[User:Frugali|Frugali]] 12:22, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
:Is it related to the game's release date? I didn't see something about HGSS. It says the release is on September 11, reservation is July 18, SRP is 4800 yen, NEPichu to appear in HG, and more info about the movie and event PCPichu.. not sure of this though. '''[[User:Kevzo8|Kev]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|zo8]]''' 12:57, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
::[http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=15813741#post15813741 Thread for context.] Yeah, I guess we shouldn't jump the gun, Serebii said that there's several conflicting reports going around right now. [[User:Frugali|Frugali]] 13:00, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
:::This month's CoroCoro magazine will be released few moments by now. I think we should wait for the infos. '''[[User:Kevzo8|Kev]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|zo8]]''' 13:07, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
::::Eh, the first picture has Lugia and Ho-Oh on it, but I can't see anything else Pokémon related on it. As for the rest of everything, what Kev said. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 21:54, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

== CoroCoro Scans ==

Just wondering if/when the info in the new CC should be added to the article, from what I've seen, there is a new girl playable, the notched eared pichu/pikachu colored pichu are involved, and there's a skateboard involved in the game somehow. I'm aware the last 2 are iffy, but something tells me that the new girl would be something to mention. [[User:Myzou|Myzou]] 14:52, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

*I would think that showing the picture or mentioning the new girl would be more of a priority than the Pichu since it notes a significant change between Pokemon Crystal and these games. But I am not going to add this without more discussion.-[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 15:14, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

::I'd say maybe wait to see if slightly better quality scans are created before adding more details. Although they may still be speculative for the time being. Although the fact that there is a new female character does throw a bit of a spanner in the works. First off, we don't know her name or anything else about her other than her look. '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 15:32, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
::PS - Gold = A really young version of the TF2 Scout?
:::I would think the scans he posted below would be good enough to show that it is indeed a new playable female character. [[User:Myzou|Myzou]] 15:58, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
::::It possibly is true. But, we have to what for some better screenshots. Don't add them just yet. Let TTE decide.--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 16:28, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
:::::I'll agree to that and if it can't be posted yet then we'll wait for either offical pictures or a gameplay shot that shows the characters' sprite. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 16:33, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

I agree, I think we should wait for the magazine to actually hit news-stand on the 15th. It is the 15th right? Either way I don't think we should jump the gun.

P.S. $10 says the new girl trainer's name turns out to be Heart.[[User:Zabbethx|Zabbethx]] 16:56, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
:{{ga|Leaf}} implies otherwise. I say Soul. No one create an article until we make some consensus. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 17:16, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

where in the magazine was the skateboard mentioned? [[User:Ultamatecharizard|Ultamate]][[User Talk:Ultamatecharizard|Charizard]] 21:00, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Pokébeach have very recently posted an article with higher-resolution quality scans of CoroCoro. Apparently the Touch Screen how displays the in-game menu, although whether or not it is always there, or you have to press a button to activate it is still unknown.
Also they've confirmed the presence of the location graphic that appears when you enter certain areas, á la FR/LG is back. '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 11:59, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
:You can still press X to access the menu, I assume if you don't want to use the touch screen, (according to the screencap.)I assume they have it setup this way because they might integrate the radio more into the game, so it lets you change stations more easily. [[User:Halogen|Halogen]] 18:52, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

== Kris? ==
Can someone who can read Japanese tell me: Doe the magazine specifically say that it is a new girl? I think it may just be a major overhaul of Kris, but if it says so, then it must be an entirely new character.--[[User:Goukazaru|Gou]] 22:50, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
:The magazine identifies Gold and [Kris] as simply "Protagonist (Boy)" and "Protagonist (Girl)." That's all that's legible for now; let's wait until full scans arrive.—[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 00:11, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
::She really only {{tt|looks like|abstractly...}} Leaf in a version of Kris' clothes and a slightly different hairstyle. And Serebii says that she isn't Kris, although they have been known to get things wrong. They do have a number of Japanese reading users like we do though. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 00:15, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
:::Maybe she is a new character, maybe her name could be Soul (ソウル) or Heart (ハート) just like Leaf in FireRed & LeafGreen. [[User:AlienX2008|AlienX2008]] 03:16, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
::Yeah, nothing is mentioned other than what we know. The description of the girl "An active looking girl. Notice the device hanging from her bag." For the boy, "His cap has a trademarked yellow line. What's that blue device attached to his left hand?" [[User:Halogen|Halogen]] 04:03, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
:::What could it be, [[PokéGear|oh how I wonder]]... Anyone up for emailing Masuda or Sugimori and asking them personally, "okay, is this Kris and you're screwing with us, and when the hell do we get HGSS?" '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 07:51, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
:::: I highly doubt that's Kris, seeing as the two look VERY different. Either Kris will appear redesigned again in a possible Crystal remake, or we will never see her again. Perhaps all the "Marina" hints in the anime were just teasing us, but we never know, right? ...and for the record, I'm with ya, TTE. [[User:Fairy Red|Fairy Red]] 12:31, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
:::::I would personally rather to email them that we want Crys to be included at least as a NPC. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 12:41, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
::::::Uh...lets keep the "She's not Kris" whining on the forums. Save the talk page for the article. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 12:57, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
*Agree with you there Sketch and personally I don't care about this debate personally it was just Nintendo chose to do and it is not that big of a deal. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 15:33, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
:I'd have already e-mailed him if anyone had his e-mail lying around.--[[User:RexRacer|'''Rex]][[User talk:RexRacer|Racer''']] 01:42, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
*on this subject, she isen't replacing kris, since this is a remake of gold and silver, not crystal. and to my recolection, there is no female player in the origanal g&s
[[Water (type)|Water]][[Hydro Cannon (move)|User]] ([[user:WaterUser|page]], [[User talk:WaterUser|talk]]) 12:37, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
never mind
[[Water (type)|Water]][[Hydro Cannon (move)|User]] ([[user:WaterUser|page]], [[User talk:WaterUser|talk]]) 12:37, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
== Starter following ==

I think it had been made known that your Starter Pokémon will follow you in the whole game. Did it?--[[User:Ruixiang95|Ruixiang95]] 09:17, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
:Remember, that video is just demonstration on what the game's gonna be like, it may be scrapped and become beta information.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Ho-Oh (Pokémon)|orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Lugia (Pokémon)|ire]] 09:19, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
::Starters may not be the only ones who can follow, it seems safe to assume that it is possible there are many Pokémon that can follow, I came to this conclusion from the Ilex forest image that has been released, it shows your Pikachu coloured pichu outside of its Poké ball, this could possibly indicate that other Pokémon may be able to follow the player. Basically I don't think we should assume that only the starters can follow (like it says in the article) until we have all the facts. —[[User:Lord mada|Mada-sama]] ([[User talk:Lord mada|Talk to me!]])— 13:18, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
*Yeah after seeing that special Pichu following the trainer I agree until more facts are available to that, if not for that I would have thought only the starters would follow the trainer. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 15:50, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
:Being that PCP can, I do wonder if shiny starters would look different, too. Either way, yes, waiting on this tidbit is a good idea. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:37, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

== Fourth pic ==

How do we know that it shows Kurt's house? Do the CoroCoro scans specifically state that? [[User:Pokéman|Pokéman]] 17:59, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
:There is no mention of it anywhere in the scans or on the website (I read the Japanese.) The text next to the image in the scans simply refers to how your starter will follow you throughout the game. It should be edited. [[User:Halogen|Halogen]] 18:59, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
::Don't. It closely resembles the positioning of Kurt's House in [[Azalea Town]]. The gym can be seen below it, and there is a red streak on the western side of the picture resembling a Pokémon Center.--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 19:04, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
:::Okay, but that is just speculation (and a big stretch.) It doesn't hurt to leave it as is and find out whose house exactly it is later on.[[User:Halogen|Halogen]] 20:49, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
:Its not really THAT big of a stretch. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|You enter a poorly lit room...]] 21:36, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
::[[Burned Tower]]. They just made it more elaborate. Like [[Silph Co.]] in Saffron. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:12, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
:::I still say the place looks like [[Azalea Town]].--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 23:14, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
::::I can't picture Azalea Towns having these kinds of streets, as they would go against its village-ish theme. And the house/tower in the pic seems to have a base of concrete under it with stairs, reminiscent of the towers' bases in the original games (Ok, the bases didn't look like they were made of concrete in GSC, but it still looks reminiscent of them). [[User:Pokéman|Pokéman]] 23:27, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
:::::Ok, maybe. This is getting a bit forumy, you have made your point and fixed it. Anything else goes to forums.--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 23:34, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
::::::It just looks like re-newed Azalea town so there's no way that isn't kurt's house, i think.--[[User:RegiManiac|RegiManiac]] 08:28, 17 May 2009 (UTC)RegiManiaC
:::::::It's not Kurt's house. It's Burned Tower, Kurt's house is not on an elevated platform (and wouldn't be, he's not THAT important). '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:36, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
::::::::It could be either. We should wait and see when the games are released. --[[User:Galladeon|Galladeon]] 05:56, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

== Replacement? ==

The article says that the new girl replaces Kris. But seeing as HGSS are specifically Gold/Silver remakes, instead of a Crystal remake, wouldn't it make more sense to say this new girl is just new, not a replacement? Just like the FRLG heroine didn't replace anyone because no female choice existed in RGYB, the HGSS girl replaces no-one as well. But that's just me...what do you think? --[[User:Fairy Red|Fairy Red]] 23:39, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
:We all have different opinions on the topic; check out the various forum threads. For now, we're proceeding as if it's a different character. We've given her the fan-name {{ga|Soul}} for now. It's hard to say which way we should go. --[[User:Martonimos|((Marton]] [[User talk:Martonimos|imos))]] 00:08, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
::i agree with fairy red. she dosen't replace any character, because there is none to replace.
[[Water (type)|Water]][[Hydro Cannon (move)|User]] ([[user:WaterUser|page]], [[User talk:WaterUser|talk]]) 12:37, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
:::In most people's eyes, Kris was "the Johto girl" like May's "the Hoenn girl", Leaf's "the Kanto girl", and Dawn's "the Sinnoh girl". Sure, Kris didn't actually appear as a choice in Gold and Silver, but most consider her to be as much Gold's female counterpart as May is to Brendan, Leaf is to Red, and Dawn is to Lucas. It's not as much "replaced" as it is "included instead of the more logical choice"... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:15, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
::::Even though these are remakes of G/S rather than Crystal, the one who had the role of Gold's female counterpart in the franchise was Kris. And now we have Soul filling that role. So yes, we can say that Soul is replacing Kris. [[User:Pokéman|Pokéman]] 02:40, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
:::::I would say that it is a matter of how you look at it. Looking at it from the perspective of these being remakes of Gold and Silver, Soul is not replacing Kris. Looking at it from the perspective of Kris being Gold's female counterpart, Soul is replacing Kris. --[[User:Galladeon|Galladeon]] 05:55, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

== All Pokémon NOW Available ==

''As an honorable mention for somewhere on the page'', by now, with the addition of the expected Johto Pokémon in these remakes and the expected time capsule {{tt|to work like the original GS|I remember talking a bit about this on the GS speculation talk page once... FR and LG would take the place of the old Kanto, just remade... Let me explain further... As Gen II was to trade with the old Kanto (Gen I) and back, it is to be expected that this would happen with HGGS, Gen IV, to trade with the old, but remade Kanto (Gen III) and back; the sysytem of the time capsule to be remade itself... (Sorry this is so long)}}, every Pokémon may be now caught in Gen IV main series gameplay as of these GS remakes... Now, I think that it would be an honorable mention... if it could be edited a bit and figured out {{tt|where|I won't do anything with this yet... I'll leave that to TTE or someone in that manner, just so I'm not reckless...}} it would be put on the page... that is, if you decide whether it's really an honorable mention...--[[User:Dragonbeastx/The Aura Spot|X, PEACE TO]][[User:Dragonbeastx|THE DRAGONS AND]][[User talk:Dragonbeastx|THE BEASTS]] 03:04, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

:Well I disagree with you, since I believe there will be a new Johto Dex. But also the point of the matter is that until there is a source to clarify what Nintendo is planning to do, there would be no rumors or speculation about this on the games' page.-[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 03:24, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
::...what? Seriously, I can't tell what you're saying. As far as catching every Pokémon, what about Groudon and Kyogre? Or the Gen III starters? Heck, we don't even know for sure that Celebi is available. --[[User:Martonimos|((Marton]] [[User talk:Martonimos|imos))]] 06:49, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
:::They won't touch the GSDex, like they did with the RBDex.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Ho-Oh (Pokémon)|orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Lugia (Pokémon)|ire]] 07:18, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
::::I'd Like to believe that too, but personally I'd rather wait for a reliable source especially since Nintendo did an expansion of the Sinnoh Dex for Platinum and could easy do the same thing in reverse. Especially with the Kanto Starters, Fossil, and Legendaries near the back of the original Johto Dex. But once further details are released then it would be determined who's right or wrong. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 07:24, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
:::::We should just wait 'til they release it in Japan and see what happens. [[User:galladeon|galladeon]] 14:56, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

== Okay ==

Now it's time for the division between "speculation" and "duh". Honestly, I know we pride ourselves on the veracity and such of our information, but honestly, truly, saying that the Johto Gym Leaders don't even have a 100% chance of reappearing is just ''stupid''. Did Kanto get new Gym Leaders in FRLG? No! HGSS is a remake of GS. Silver appears outside Elm's lab. I'll give Kanto being in the games as speculation, because as much as I hope it is, we've not yet seen the eastern border of New Bark in new graphics, leaving room for doubt. Sure, maybe it was unprogrammed as of the demo, fine, but it does leave room for doubt. But seriously, saying that Johto's leaders aren't gonna be the same is like saying Silver's no longer the rival, just some kid standing outside Elm's lab, and that a new villainous team takes the place of Neo Team Rocket.

HGSS is '''''a remake of Gold and Silver'''''. If you're all so gung-ho about removing "speculation" that Falkner, Bugsy, Whitney, Morty, Chuck, Jasmine, Pryce, and Clair will be in HGSS, I don't know why you've not yet even said "oh just speculation that these are remakes, we won't know for sure until we've compared every plot detail to GS and made sure they're just as similar to them as FRLG are to RG," and label these as "new games set in a mysterious new region".

It's just as much speculation that there are screenshots of Slowpoke Well and Ilex Forest, too, that the Gym Leaders will change. You know, despite them looking like revamped versions of the GS areas, we can ''never'' be sure...

Echidna has spoken. All eight Johto Gym Leaders are part of Gen IV and HGSS as much as the eight Kanto ones are part of FRLG. If you wanna assume Kanto's in HGSS, too, go for it. I mean, honestly, these anti-speculation measures are far too ridiculous at this point if you're "playing it safe" like this. Hell, if BP were around when FRLG were announced as much as it is now, we'd have you guys screaming about how "it's not proven that the Seafoam Islands and Cerulean Cave will appear in FRLG"...

And that's my rant. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:07, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
:I agree. Kanto speculation is one thing, but these are friggin' GS remakes, there is no way in teh fiery pit that the Johto gym leaders aren't there. They'll be keeping all major elements of the region intact. I'll bet they're gonna include Kanto, too, I see no reason why they wouldn't. There's no proof that they're including it, true, but neither is there evidence to the contrary. Plus, what would they do about the Pokemon League? And by the way, that shot of Gold in front of some building that everyone is arguing about, I strongly believe it's the Burned Tower. Honestly, what's more likely to be raised up on a pedestal and look all badass and awesome and junk? An ancient tower with great historical significance that houses the legendary gerbils? Or the house of some old fart who makes Poké Balls? Plus, the roads are paved, which kinda says more of "Ecruteak City" than "Azalea Town" to me. [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] wants YOU! [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch/Bulbapedia Branch|Join the Order of the Glitch!]] [[User talk: Missingno. Master|(my talk page)]] 01:26, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

::I say yes too. I doubt they'll change anything. And if they do, oh well. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 01:31, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

:::They changed the female player. Big deal. Kris is most likely gone forever. So what? Get over it. It's a remake. It's SUPPOSED to have {{tt|minor|not including revamped graphics and stuff}} changes, although this is pretty big for a minor. Nothing spectacular changed for the Kanto remakes, all they did was add a female player, the Sevii Islands, and slightly extend the Team Rocket plot. Deal with it, or just ignore the fact that there are remakes coming out. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 03:19, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
::::Please, stop saying that. We ''have'' gotten over it. It's the people who complain about the complaints who keep complaining.
::::TTE: Who's saying otherwise? --[[User:Martonimos|((Marton]] [[User talk:Martonimos|imos))]] 06:55, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
:::::Check out the revision history on Bugsy. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:01, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
::::::Well R.A., you should've understood (if you haven't yet) that the reason for Kris not supposedly being in HGSS is because they're GS remakes and not Crystal's. And since Kris was introduced in Crystal, it wouldn't make sense to put her where she doesn't fit, don't you think? [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 10:12, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
:::::::That doesn't mean that people aren't spazzing about Kris not being in there, even if they're told she wasn't even IN G/S. People need to learn to grow up and deal with what happens, even if they don't like it. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 12:52, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
::::::::Couldn't agree more with you. [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 15:53, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::Pokemon lover: If it's okay for the R/G remakes to borrow stuff from other games (some GSC Pokémon; many Gen II and III items, including the RSE berries and the HM to learn Waterfall; some GSC music themes), then why would it be so wrong for a G/S remake to borrow stuff from Crystal (such as Kris)?
:::::::::Before anyone tells me to get over it, I'm not complaining about Kris not being included. I'm just questioning the logic in saying "These are GS remakes, so including anything that comes from Crystal would seem out of place". [[User:Spideym|Spideym]] 18:16, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
:Me two cents (A few days late) there's things that are speculation to assume they'll be in, but there's things that are more speculative to assume they're not in. Complicating matters slightly is that Kris was one of those things, but really, still in are: the leaders, team rocket, the starters, kanto, the basic plot. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|You enter a poorly lit room...]] 10:35, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

::The whole thing we've been talking about, Spideym, is that people tried/have/talked about adding crap that won't happen. See the first thing that TTE said to start the section to understand. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 21:02, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

:::I was replying to Pokemon lover, not TTEchidna. And no, I don't think TTE was talking about what you're saying. Read his comment again. He was ranting about how the fact that people seem to believe that we shouldn't assume until confirmation that stuff like the Johto Gym Leaders is going to come back in these remakes, is ridiculous, as common sense tells us that they WILL be there. [[User:Spideym|Spideym]] 06:08, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
::::No, he's right. We shouldn't assume they'll add anything new. They'd never add "crap that won't happen." Pokémon following you around? Ridiculous. That'll never happen in a main series game except for yellow. --[[User:Martonimos|((Marton]] [[User talk:Martonimos|imos))]] 08:27, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

And yet, it was revealed that ALL 493 Pokemon are capable of following you. So, do you STILL think it won't happen, hmm? - ''unsigned comment from {{u|PokemonMasterJamal3}} ([[User talk:PokemonMasterJamal3|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PokemonMasterJamal3|contribs]]) ''
:[[wiktionary:sarcasm|I think you're missing the point.]] I was trying to point out to RAHB the flaw in his argument.--[[User:Martonimos|((Marton]] [[User talk:Martonimos|imos))]] 19:12, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Ah, okay. Sorry about that. {{unsigned|PokemonMasterJamal3}}

== Generation II Pokémon Platinum sprites ==

I don't know if this is being discussed elseware, but I've noticed that in the trivia sections of certain Generation II Pokémon that received updated colours in their Platinum sprites it's not being mentioned that this happened to alot of other Pokémon.

Their colours are changed so that they match their original colours from Gold and Silver as a hint to the fact that the Gold and Silver remakes were going to be released in a few months time.

For example, in Porygon2's trivia section it mentions that Porygon's sprite colours didn't change in Platinum as if no connection had been made to the G/S remakes.

Surely other people have made this connection, or is it just not being mentioned? [[User:Ash zane|Ash zane]] 08:17, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

:No, Just because it's similar too their original sprites, doesn't mean it was a hint.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Ho-Oh (Pokémon)|orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Lugia (Pokémon)|ire]] 08:19, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

::Okay, so your saying that the Generation II Pokémon having the sprite changes to reference their original sprites in G/S and then the G/S remakes being announced a few months after is a complete co-incidence? [[User:Ash zane|Ash zane]] 11:52, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

:::No, but that sort of thing could mean nothing. --[[User:Galladeon|Galladeon]] 05:50, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

== Lugia and Ho-Oh ==

Ho-Oh and Lugia in the 3rd Generation games were only available from the event-exclusive Navel Rock. Before the release of HeartGold and SoulSilver, the only way to them in Diamond, Pearl and Platinum, was through Pal Park. However, with the release of HG and SS, now you can get them by trading with HG/SS.

Should it be added to their Trivia sections that they are the only Pokemon to initially be event-exclusive and then be available normally? [[User:Bttsstewart|Bttsstewart]] 02:51, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

:Generation II they were available normally... ←{'''[[User:Berrymaster|Berrymaster]]|[[User_talk:Berrymaster|Talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Berrymaster|Contrib]]'''}→ 02:58, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I know that, but then should it be said that they are the only ones to be available normally (GEN 2), then event-exclusive (GEN 3), then available normally (GEN 4)? [[User:Bttsstewart|Bttsstewart]] 04:22, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
:When a piece of trivia gets that contrived, no. --[[User:Martonimos|((Marton]] [[User talk:Martonimos|imos))]] 04:33, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
::Pf, event-exclusive? I got my Lugia in XD. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:27, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

==The Release Date Isn't Fall 2009, It's in September==

According to the Japanese website, it's coming out in specifically September, not just "Fall". http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pokemon.co.jp%2Fgame%2Fds%2Fhgss%2F&sl=ja&tl=en&history_state0= [[User:Igglybuff63|Igglybuff63]] 18:52, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
:Well, Google's wrong. "2009年秋" (which Google is calling "September 2009" because it's just an awful thing to use) is "year 2009, autumn".—[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 19:49, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
::I examined the address of the japanese site that Google is translating and this '''www.pokemon.co.jp''' lodged in there and found it is from the official pokemon site in japan so the release month may in fact be legit. Course the exact date still needs released for this game to prove where the real date is. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 20:46, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Are you reading? There ''isn't'' a release month because the site says "autumn" and nothing else.—[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 20:52, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Just so you're aware I even if this page wasn't protected I wouldn't have added the month to this site without further consensus or the exact date to do so since I try to avoid obvious mistakes if possible. Besides there no other sources besides this so I won't do anything beyond this. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 20:56, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
::::I might as well mention that September would be written as 9月 in Japanese (note the use of Arabic numerals for months). --[[User:Evice|Evice]] 20:03, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

:: I know you stoped talking about this long ago but, yeah, it isn't "Fall 2009" the correct date the games are coming out, it is "September 2009". [[User:YukitoOoO|YukitoOoO]] 16:40, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
:::What proof do you have of this {{tt|blasphemy|I just wanted to say the word}}? [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|You enter a poorly lit room...]] 16:45, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
::::What's the 10 on the main page of the new site? Is that a month thing? --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 16:53, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
:: No, I don't know much Japanese just yet, but it think it says so in the special page, Dark! And, Galladeon, no, It think it is the ''day'' so it would like "September 10, 2009" or "10th Semptember, 2009" :P. Now I wish I knew more japanese >.< [[User:YukitoOoO|YukitoOoO]] 17:06, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Without knowing Japanese or seeing it myself, considering 9月 would be September, doesn't that mean 10 would be October? [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|You enter a poorly lit room...]] 17:11, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
::::That's what I was talking about. --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 17:15, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
:Ok wait! Now I'm confused :P. Mmmm go here http://www.pokemon.co.jp/game/ds/hgss/ and then here http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pokemon.co.jp%2Fgame%2Fds%2Fhgss%2F&sl=ja&tl=en&history_state0= Forget the "special" new page that was recently open, this says September 2009 :D :S

No, wait again, you're right, those pages are a lil' old, the new site should be right then, yes, it is October! I think... Awww this is fustrating [[User:YukitoOoO|YukitoOoO]] 18:05, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

:We already know google translate is not to be trusted. Don't give us anymore from google. Google translate=epic fail. --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 20:39, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

== Pedometer a.k.a. PokéWalk ==

Supposedly, there's a pedometer that will come with the game, and you can upload a Pokémon to it. Then, you can walk around, and the Pokémon will supposedly gain experience. I'm not kidding. If you think I'm crazy, then check out these links: [http://gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=84986] [http://pokebeach.com/] Shouldn't this be mentioned here, especially when the first link has a video from Pokémon Sunday (a primary source)? [[User:Blaziken257|Blaziken257]] 05:22, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
:This pedometer is going to be called the PokéWalk. Additionally it was announced on Pokémon Sunday (6/7/09) and is also at Serebii(http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml). Also, I started on it in the [[Sandbox]] but was told to hold off on doing anything with it. Lastly, there is a picture on the Serebii newspost. -[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 05:28, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
::Hmmm, it looks interesting, and given that you have at least one reliable source, then write something up and see what the others think. However, one thing that those pictures on Serebii indicate is that the HG/SS Pokémon might be using the <strike>Platinum</strike> D/P (oops!) sprites, unless that's just a filler. '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 17:06, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Maybe only some of the Pokemon in HGSS use Plat sprites. FR/LG and R/S used the same Pikachu sprite, after all. [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] wants YOU! [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch/Bulbapedia Branch|Join the Order of the Glitch!]] [[User talk: Missingno. Master|(my talk page)]] 18:03, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
::::I already wrote up something and asked two admins. It is located in the [[sandbox]]. I was told by the admins to hold off until more information is available. -[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 18:10, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
:::::I just noticed the [http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/HeartGold%2C_SoulSilver_to_come_with_pedometer Bulbanews article], so I'd say something brief should be added to the article. '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 18:46, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
::::::Don't get your jaws in an uproar, guys. I added the info. --[[User:Martonimos|((Marton]] [[User talk:Martonimos|imos))]] 19:23, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

== More CoroCoro info out ==

So [http://pokebeach.com/2009/06/kyogre-groudon-and-rayquaza-in-heartgold-and-soulsilver apparently more scans are out] with info about the Hoenn legendary trio, and some info about a possible tie-in with the Movie 12 Arceus. Any info that's actually worthwhile to add in? '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 16:14, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

*Well the way I can figure it from my analysis is that the the three Hoenn Legendaries have a better chance of being posted on this page first being that is more notable than the Arceus event. But once an administrator makes the choice it doens't matter to me if it will be full, partial, or no addition to the page. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 16:22, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

::They're both gonna be put up... don't worry about it. The admins would already know about it without people asking. They're like vultures over a dying animal. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 21:31, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
:::It should all be there now. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 22:08, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

== Boxart now revealed==
Firstly I would like to applaud you Sketch for removing the unneeded images since I had the same idea myself about not wanting the section to be too overcrowded.

But now the Boxart has been revealed as CoroCoro scans I am wondering if it should be posted because of its importance or postponed till better images are aquired? Course I am willing to wait over being too hasty. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 16:33, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
:If I can have an opinion, I would say we should hold off as the news article said the Lugia and Ho-Oh on the box are don't match the official Japanese website. The only thing that could actually verify it that I would agree with is if someone compared the Lugia and Ho-Oh with the Lugia and Ho-Oh that were revealed on Pokémon Sunday, if they match then I would say it is a go... -[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 17:40, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

:: *pokes notice at the page's top* '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 18:11, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Last comment has my support since this was intended to affect when the box art should be posted on the page at some point in the near future and this is not supposed to be a forum chat. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 18:30, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

::::I was talking about the "everyone's paying attention LIKE A HAWK" and the "We will have stuff up and ready as soon as time allows" parts. Sorry about the confusion. And I appreciate that you aren't spazzing like some users who would if you were them... '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 18:40, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
:::::It is because I am a patient person who is used to waiting and since this has value I just wanted to know what the game plan was. I may watch over this page, but I only comment when I feel I need to. If this situation had little importance like an average screenshot then I wouldn't have done anything. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 18:54, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
::::::That's fine. I'm making sure you know. A lot of people tend to miss those, even though they're bigger than anything else on the page. xD '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 18:58, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
:::::::My opinion on the boxart: too small at the current time for our purposes. We'll get it up probably in a few weeks when it appears on websites and such in high-res format. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:58, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
::::::::Agree with you there since the boxart is mixed in with the Magazine scan and it is better to wait for pictures that have no magazine scan in them. So this pretty much ends the discussion of the topic of when the should the boxart pictures should be posted on this page. No need to add anything to the discussion at this point -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 03:33, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
:Look on the official site! The boxart is now there! [[Image:HGSS Logos and Boxart.jpg|thumb|HGSS Logos and Boxart from official site]] --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 10:14, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

== New Area ==

I put in a bit about the new area near the National Park, but it was removed a few hours later with the comment "We'll wait until we know what that area is". We don't even know for sure that Soul isn't Kris (and that her name is Soul), yet she has an entire article. Should my thing be put back in? --[[User:Galladeon|Galladeon]] 03:40, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
:I don't see a reason to mention it yet. We don't even know what it is. You weren't supposed to be able to edit the article anyway. The protection expired. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 10:59, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
::On the one hand, it's official information. On the other hand, it's not much information. I guess we'll wait until we know more, although I agree that too many BP users are revert-happy. --[[User:Martonimos|((Marton]] [[User talk:Martonimos|imos))]] 19:12, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
:::The new areas west of Cianwood and National Park have been added to the [[Johto]] page. Should they be added here or deleted there? --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 17:05, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

==Confirmed?==
All 493 Pokemon can follow you? Is that correct? I mean, I can't imagine a Pokemon the size of Regigigas following me into a house. {{User|Team Hyper}}
:Yeppers. --[[User:Martonimos|((Marton]] [[User talk:Martonimos|imos))]] 19:12, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
::The Steelix sprite appears to be no bigger than the player, and we know how big they are. --[[User:Galladeon|Galladeon]] 02:07, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Just because there is a picture with a wobbufett, pichu, cyndaquil, and steelix doesn't necessarily mean all 493 Pokémon can follow you around. -[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 02:39, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
::::Apparently the Japanese text on the scans confirms it. --[[User:Galladeon|Galladeon]] 02:42, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
Perhaps... There's a restriction for certain exotic Pokémon, So if you want to take your Giratina for a walk, you'll probably get a message like, "It's too big!".
The scans may say otherwise, but I can see this happening. Evidence for this is that Rayquasa appears in-game, and his sprite is pretty large, so I really think there'll be restrictions of sort. [[User:Team Hyper|Team Hyper]]
:Do not discuss this here. I only allowed your original comment because it was asking if that was correct. All 493 Pokemon can follow you. There are no restrictions. Period. 493 means 493. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 11:13, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

== New gameplay images ==

Now, there's more gameplay images, someone should put this here but it's protected.

http://www.pokemon.co.jp/special/hgss/introduction/images/img_intro_device01_03.jpg
http://www.pokemon.co.jp/special/hgss/character/images/img_character_main03_01.jpg
http://www.pokemon.co.jp/special/hgss/character/images/img_character_main02_01.jpg
--'''[[User:Lance123|Lance]][[User talk:Lance123|123]]''' 10:18, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
:I'm uploading them all as we speak.--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 10:21, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
::The Poké Balls are upside down apparently?--[[User:RexRacer|'''Rex]][[User talk:RexRacer|Racer''']] 17:34, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

:::Probably not. If I remember right, in DPPt they spin as they come onto the screen. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 17:44, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

== FRLG reference? ==

I don't know if it is a reference or not but is there someone who understands Japanese enough to translate the info from [http://www.pokemon.co.jp/special/hgss/story/images/popup_history.jpg this picture] on the new HGSS site? I'm almost certain that it talks about Team Rocket and not so certain if it mentions anything on "3 years". [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 15:40, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

== New Japanese site ==

So there's a "special" page that's opened on pokemon.co.jp (can be found [http://www.pokemon.co.jp/special/hgss/ here]). Is there any way that we could perhaps translate some of it for use in the article? At the moment, it appears as though there's just the images that are being used in the article, rather than the content itself, which could contain information that would do well to be included. Opinions on this? [[User:Ggled|Ggled]] 16:33, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
:We've been getting material from that site all morning. The link is already in the article itself under official site. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 16:39, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

== New Pikachu sprite ==

I assume by now you've all seen the new pictures, one of which featured Pikachu's new sprite. I took the liberty of cleaning it up, and even making female, shiny, and female shiny versions of it. Anyone want me to upload them? [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] says: The [[User:Missingno. Master/Celebi Glitch|Celebi Glitch]] is real![[User talk: Missingno. Master|(talk page)]] 17:29, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
:Upload them somewhere else first and show them here. --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 17:33, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
::Alright, here ya go;
http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/8803/pikahgss.png

Obviously, if I'm allowed to upload them here, they're all gonna be done separately. [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] says: The [[User:Missingno. Master/Celebi Glitch|Celebi Glitch]] is real![[User talk: Missingno. Master|(talk page)]] 17:46, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
:Making your own custom sprites in an attempt to pass them off as official is kind of...meh. Sure, we can take the male sprite. But not the shiny, or female sprites. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 17:48, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
::Meh, fair enough. I'll upload the male Pika sprite right now, then? [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] says: The [[User:Missingno. Master/Celebi Glitch|Celebi Glitch]] is real![[User talk: Missingno. Master|(talk page)]] 17:50, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
:::...And here it is! [[File:Hgss 025 m.PNG]] [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] says: The [[User:Missingno. Master/Celebi Glitch|Celebi Glitch]] is real![[User talk: Missingno. Master|(talk page)]] 17:53, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

:::: *adds to HGSS Lt. Surge's party* '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 18:05, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
:::::Nevermind... he only has Raichu. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 18:08, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
:::::::What is going on here? I uploaded it as 025.png, so it should be updated on {{tt|everyone's|everyone who has a Pikachu}} page.--[[Bulbapedia:Project Custom Sprite|☆]][[User:Tavisource|Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 18:13, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

:::::::: Hey Missingno. where are those new pictures you're talking about! I haven't seen them :D [[User:YukitoOoO|YukitoOoO]] 18:24, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

::::::::: Please make it 80x80 and transparent so it doesn't need to be fixed by someone else. Gen IV non-animated sprites are 80x80. (IIRC, Spr_4h_025_m.png (I assume that's the naming scheme) should be then replaced with an animated one, when that's possible, but 025.png should stay unanimated.) '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 19:09, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::Yeah, about that.... I don't know how to make the sprites transparent. And since when are there ANY animated Generation IV sprites on this wiki? The only animated ones I see are Crystal and Emerald. [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] says: The [[User:Missingno. Master/Celebi Glitch|Celebi Glitch]] is real![[User talk: Missingno. Master|(talk page)]] 19:22, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
:It's a very slow process, Bulbasaur's animated. I think we're trying to get all animated sprites animated. Not sure though. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|You enter a poorly lit room...]] 19:28, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
::[[a:Image:Spr 4p 001.png|Bulbasaur]]'s and Giratina's ([[a:Image:Spr 4p 487.png|1]], [[a:Image:Spr 4p 487O.png|2]]) are the only ones already animated. Transparency is an easy fix as long as you use something else than MS Pain(t). BTW, damn session amnesia, I've been sending this message for like five minutes. '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 19:29, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
:::That's gonna be something of a problem for me because I don't really have much experience working with sprites in anything other than Paint. [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] says: The [[User:Missingno. Master/Celebi Glitch|Celebi Glitch]] is real![[User talk: Missingno. Master|(talk page)]] 19:51, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
::::Work with Paint.net. It's quite easy to get used to if all you currently use is Paint. As for animated sprites, yes I do believe that all the Gen IV sprites are being changed to be animated, but you probably can't see the animation since they're being saved as animated PNGs which some browsers don't support yet. '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 20:12, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

==Image limit for the Gallery==
I would like to inquire about any possible limits there should be for the gallery on this page since I count about 16 pictures in the Gallery and more pictures will come in as the weeks fly by and only some of them will be notable so I feel I should ask this question now? -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 19:46, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
:Well, since we're not putting every single one on here, and most of them would be on Bulbanews anyways, it's fine as long as we don't go overboard with them. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 20:04, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
::There is such a thing as overdoing it. Four more images. Then no more. Afterwards, just swap out images for other ones. If that time comes. Eventually we'll phase the gallery out. Probably when the game releases. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 20:37, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
*That was one of the options that I thought up earlier to deal with the overcrowding problem and also helped prompted me to create this topic. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 21:02, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
:::I have a suggestion: why don't we just link to the archives page where all the images are stored (ex. For other sprites and images, please see HeartGold and SoulSilver images on Bulbagarden Archives.) -[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 20:54, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
:::(EC) I know the recent change to six images per row does make it look less cluttered but it's not nice on those of us with a 1024x768 screen, and probably even less nice for unregistered people what with all the ads! Maybe just reduce the size of the images as they appear in the gallery instead? '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 20:55, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

== The Pokédex ==

Is it worth mentioning that the New Pokédex (Johto Pokédex) has its own numbering system this time? The numbers weren't displayed in Gen II. --[[User:Evice|Evice]] 03:08, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

We should probably also mention that the Girl PC gets a white and Pink Pokedex. It's a first for the games for it to come in any color other then Red.--[[User:Lego3400|Lego3400]] 04:39, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

== The Japanese box art ==
I have uploaded the box art. [[User:MARXOR|MARXOR]] 04:34, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

[[File:HeartGoldJP-ART.jpg]]
[[File:SoulSilverJP-ART.jpg]]

== Starter sprites ==

Could somebody please get clean sprites of the starters? I'm trying to get the HGSS party templates as finished as I can before it comes out. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 21:45, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

== I FOUND SOMETHING AFTER WATCHING STUFF LIKE A HO-OH! ==

ACCORDING TO PKMN.NET, KANTO MAY OR MAY NOT APPEAR IN HEARTGOLD AND SOULSILVER. BUT IT ISN'T CONFIRMED YET, SO CAN YOU PUT IT IN THE MAIN ARTICLE? DEPENDS ON YOUR VIEW, IT DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU DON'T PUT IT IN. [[User:Joe9320|Giratina Joe]] - [[User talk:Joe9320|Question Giratina Here- DO NOT DISTURB IT]] 07:19, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
:Already on Bulbanews. You're a little late there bucko. --[[User:PsychicRider|PsychicRider]] [[User talk:PsychicRider|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|C]] 07:20, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
::What's with the all caps? That's so irritating... --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 07:24, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
:::HE IS SHOUTING!!!!!!--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 07:27, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
::::::Then why isn't it on the HeartGold and SoulSilver article? And the Main Page is full of capital letters and such. [[User:Joe9320|Giratina Joe]] - [[User talk:Joe9320|Question Giratina Here- DO NOT DISTURB IT]] 07:27, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

2009-05-11T01:23:38Z

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== Latin? ==

You want the Encyclopedia Pokemonis to be in Latin? Nobody speaks it, except for kids who think it's good SAT prep and priests. That's a bit of a limited audience... -- '''[[User:evkl|evkl]]''' [[User_talk:evkl|(need to talk?)]] 06:19, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
:Encyclopedia Pokemonis is Latin, so maybe we can create a Pokemon version of Wikipedia? [[User:Joe9320|Joe9320]] 08:37, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

==Hi==
I noticed you have been editing the <code>User:</code> namespace a lot recently. You may not be aware of this, but Bulbapedia has a {{bp|Userspace policy}} that asks users to try and minimize the number of userspace edits they make in a short period of time. Instead of making multiple edits, why not use the Preview button (Alt + Shift + P) located right next to the edit button to look at your page and see how it is coming? That way, your page can look great while staying within the required amount of edits. Instead of editing the userspace, as a wiki, we encourage users to edit the mainspace. So, if you edit the mainspace more often, you will be allowed to edit the userspace more. Thanks! --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psychic''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]''''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 00:58, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

== Delete? ==

Any reason why we need [[User:Joe9320/Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver Versions|this]]? It's categorized as things it's not, which will be very tediously annoying to get rid of. It appears to be as a circumvent to policy - that being asking for edits to be made on the talk page. So.... one chance to convince me why we need it. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 01:06, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
: It may be tedious and stupid, but I did it just so that I don't need to go to the talk page and add stuff into it. I quit. I'm going to remedy this situation by quitting. [[User:Joe9320|Joe9320]] 01:23, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
== Do not ==

Do not delete talk page comments for no reason. Thank you. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|You enter a poorly lit room...]] 01:22, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

2009-05-03T07:54:50Z

Joe9320:

<center>'''Welcome to Giratina's World'''</center>
[[File:ArtGiratina.png|left|thumb|Altered Forme]]
[[File:GiratinaOriginForme.png|right|thumb|Origin Forme (please adhere to spelling rules)]]

These are the following languages that I wanted the Encyclopedia Pokemonis to be in:
*Spanish
*Italian
*Malaysian
*Korean
*Chinese (Mandarin)
*Latin

[[File:Giratina Altered Forme.png|left|thumb|Yes, I'm with Regigigas in the 11th movie.]]
[[File:Giratina Origin Form.png|right|thumb|Not to mention that I can use [[Fly (move)|the move Fly]].]]
 
Giratina's few trivias:
*The Pokémon anime is classified as a thriller fantasy. It has some comedy elements as well in the original Japanese version. See also: Seattle.
*Giratina can be found in Turnback Cave in Platinum as well as Diamond and Pearl. But that's only if you defeat it in the Distortion World.
*Help Bulbapedia out! Expand some articles!
*There's too many pointless and unfunny puns in every episode title of the Pokémon anime in English.
*[[Giratina (Pokémon)|Giratina]]'s Origin Forme looks like a snake. It looks closely like [[Rayquaza (Pokémon)|Rayquaza]], but Rayquaza has no wings and Giratina's Origin Forme has no arms.
*Everyone can just '''quit using normal, weak Pokémon''' and start using [[legendary Pokémon]]!
*We hate the character Paul!
*Giratina says: What is this [[:File:Spr 4d 379.png|Nazi stuff]] doing in Bulbapedia? Put that away! DELETE IT! NOW! [[:File:Spr 4p 379.png|Phew! This one]] is much better. How about that, [[Registeel (Pokémon)|Registeel]]? You don't need to be sad anymore.
*[[Roserade (Pokémon)|Doserade]] can't drive 55! I, Giratina, will be going to the 12th premiere! Oh well, I quit then.
*Giratina knows that you like [[Mudkip (Pokémon)|Mudkip]]
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