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List of Berries by growth time

2014-03-20T21:47:38Z

ILOVETOGETIC: growth times of Wiki and Colbur Berries

This is a list of all of the {{Berries}} available from [[Generation III]] onwards by their growth time. [[Generation II]] Berries do not appear because all their growth times is the length of time remaining until the in-game clock strikes midnight.

It should be noted that two of the types of [[mulch]] will alter these times, with Growth Mulch making the plants grow in 75% of the time listed, and Damp Mulch making the plants grow in 125% of the time.

==List of Berries by growth time==
{| class="roundy sortable" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; border: 1px solid #{{ruby color}}; background: #{{sapphire color}};"
|-
! style="background: #{{sapphire color light}}; {{roundytl}};" | No.
! style="background: #{{sapphire color light}};" | Spr
! style="background: #{{sapphire color light}};" | Berry
! style="background: #{{sapphire color light}};" | {{gen|III}}
! style="background: #{{sapphire color light}};" | {{gen|IV}}
! style="background: #{{sapphire color light}};" | {{gen|V}}
! style="background: #{{sapphire color light}}; {{roundytr}};" | {{gen|VI}}
|- style="background: #FFF;"
!01
| {{Bag|Cheri Berry}}
|[[Cheri Berry]]
|12
|12
|18
|24
|- style="background: #FFF;"
!02
| {{Bag|Chesto Berry}}
|[[Chesto Berry]]
|12
|12
|18
|24
|- style="background: #FFF;"
!03
| {{Bag|Pecha Berry}}
|[[Pecha Berry]]
|12
|12
|18
|24
|- style="background: #FFF;"
!04
| {{Bag|Rawst Berry}}
|[[Rawst Berry]]
|12
|12
|18
|24
|- style="background: #FFF;"
!05
| {{Bag|Aspear Berry}}
|[[Aspear Berry]]
|12
|12
|18
|24
|- style="background: #FFF;"
!06
| {{Bag|Leppa Berry}}
|[[Leppa Berry]]
|16
|16
|24
|24
|- style="background: #FFF;"
!07
| {{Bag|Oran Berry}}
|[[Oran Berry]]
|12
|16
|24
|24
|- style="background: #FFF;"
!08
| {{Bag|Persim Berry}}
|[[Persim Berry]]
|12
|16
|24
|24
|- style="background: #FFF;"
!09
| {{Bag|Lum Berry}}
|[[Lum Berry]]
|48
|48
|72
|48
|- style="background: #FFF;"
!10
| {{Bag|Sitrus Berry}}
|[[Sitrus Berry]]
|24
|32
|48
|48
|- style="background: #FFF;"
!11
| {{Bag|Figy Berry}}
|[[Figy Berry]]
|24
|20
|30
|24
|- style="background: #FFF;"
!12
| {{Bag|Wiki Berry}}
|[[Wiki Berry]]
|24
|20
|30
|24
|- style="background: #FFF;"
!13
| {{Bag|Mago Berry}}
|[[Mago Berry]]
|24
|20
|30
|24
|- style="background: #FFF;"
!14
| {{Bag|Aguav Berry}}
|[[Aguav Berry]]
|24
|20
|30
|24
|- style="background: #FFF;"
!15
| {{Bag|Iapapa Berry}}
|[[Iapapa Berry]]
|24
|20
|30
|24
|- style="background: #FFF;"
!16
| {{Bag|Razz Berry}}
|[[Razz Berry]]
|4
|8
|12
|''?''
|- style="background: #FFF;"
!17
| {{Bag|Bluk Berry}}
|[[Bluk Berry]]
|4
|8
|12
|''?''
|- style="background: #FFF;"
!18
| {{Bag|Nanab Berry}}
|[[Nanab Berry]]
|4
|8
|12
|''?''
|- style="background: #FFF;"
!19
| {{Bag|Wepear Berry}}
|[[Wepear Berry]]
|4
|8
|12
|''?''
|- style="background: #FFF;"
!20
| {{Bag|Pinap Berry}}
|[[Pinap Berry]]
|4
|8
|12
|''?''
|- style="background: #FFF;"
!21
| {{Bag|Pomeg Berry}}
|[[Pomeg Berry]]
|12
|32
|48
|48
|- style="background: #FFF;"
!22
| {{Bag|Kelpsy Berry}}
|[[Kelpsy Berry]]
|12
|32
|48
|48
|- style="background: #FFF;"
!23
| {{Bag|Qualot Berry}}
|[[Qualot Berry]]
|12
|32
|48
|48
|- style="background: #FFF;"
!24
| {{Bag|Hondew Berry}}
|[[Hondew Berry]]
|12
|32
|48
|48
|- style="background: #FFF;"
!25
| {{Bag|Grepa Berry}}
|[[Grepa Berry]]
|12
|32
|48
|48
|- style="background: #FFF;"
!26
| {{Bag|Tamato Berry}}
|[[Tamato Berry]]
|24
|32
|48
|48
|- style="background: #FFF;"
!27
| {{Bag|Cornn Berry}}
|[[Cornn Berry]]
|24
|24
|36
|''?''
|- style="background: #FFF;"
!28
| {{Bag|Magost Berry}}
|[[Magost Berry]]
|24
|24
|36
|''?''
|- style="background: #FFF;"
!29
| {{Bag|Rabuta Berry}}
|[[Rabuta Berry]]
|24
|24
|36
|''?''
|- style="background: #FFF;"
!30
| {{Bag|Nomel Berry}}
|[[Nomel Berry]]
|24
|24
|36
|''?''
|- style="background: #FFF;"
!31
| {{Bag|Spelon Berry}}
|[[Spelon Berry]]
|72
|60
|90
|''?''
|- style="background: #FFF;"
!32
| {{Bag|Pamtre Berry}}
|[[Pamtre Berry]]
|72
|60
|90
|''?''
|- style="background: #FFF;"
!33
| {{Bag|Watmel Berry}}
|[[Watmel Berry]]
|72
|60
|90
|''?''
|- style="background: #FFF;"
!34
| {{Bag|Durin Berry}}
|[[Durin Berry]]
|72
|60
|90
|''?''
|- style="background: #FFF;"
!35
| {{Bag|Belue Berry}}
|[[Belue Berry]]
|72
|60
|90
|''?''
|- style="background: #FFF;"
!36
| {{Bag|Occa Berry}}
|[[Occa Berry]]
|—
|72
|108
|''?''
|- style="background: #FFF;"
!37
| {{Bag|Passho Berry}}
|[[Passho Berry]]
|—
|72
|108
|''?''
|- style="background: #FFF;"
!38
| {{Bag|Wacan Berry}}
|[[Wacan Berry]]
|—
|72
|108
|48
|- style="background: #FFF;"
!39
| {{Bag|Rindo Berry}}
|[[Rindo Berry]]
|—
|72
|108
|''?''
|- style="background: #FFF;"
!40
| {{Bag|Yache Berry}}
|[[Yache Berry]]
|—
|72
|108
|48
|- style="background: #FFF;"
!41
| {{Bag|Chople Berry}}
|[[Chople Berry]]
|—
|72
|108
|48
|- style="background: #FFF;"
!42
| {{Bag|Kebia Berry}}
|[[Kebia Berry]]
|—
|72
|108
|''?''
|- style="background: #FFF;"
!43
| {{Bag|Shuca Berry}}
|[[Shuca Berry]]
|—
|72
|108
|48
|- style="background: #FFF;"
!44
| {{Bag|Coba Berry}}
|[[Coba Berry]]
|—
|72
|108
|''?''
|- style="background: #FFF;"
!45
| {{Bag|Payapa Berry}}
|[[Payapa Berry]]
|—
|72
|108
|48
|- style="background: #FFF;"
!46
| {{Bag|Tanga Berry}}
|[[Tanga Berry]]
|—
|72
|108
|48
|- style="background: #FFF;"
!47
| {{Bag|Charti Berry}}
|[[Charti Berry]]
|—
|72
|108
|48
|- style="background: #FFF;"
!48
| {{Bag|Kasib Berry}}
|[[Kasib Berry]]
|—
|72
|108
|48
|- style="background: #FFF;"
!49
| {{Bag|Haban Berry}}
|[[Haban Berry]]
|—
|72
|108
|''?''
|- style="background: #FFF;"
!50
| {{Bag|Colbur Berry}}
|[[Colbur Berry]]
|—
|72
|108
|48
|- style="background: #FFF;"
!51
| {{Bag|Babiri Berry}}
|[[Babiri Berry]]
|—
|72
|108
|48
|- style="background: #FFF;"
!52
| {{Bag|Chilan Berry}}
|[[Chilan Berry]]
|—
|72
|108
|''?''
|- style="background: #FFF;"
!53
| {{Bag|Liechi Berry}}
|[[Liechi Berry]]
|96
|96
|144
|96
|- style="background: #FFF;"
!54
| {{Bag|Ganlon Berry}}
|[[Ganlon Berry]]
|96
|96
|144
|96
|- style="background: #FFF;"
!55
| {{Bag|Salac Berry}}
|[[Salac Berry]]
|96
|96
|144
|96
|- style="background: #FFF;"
!56
| {{Bag|Petaya Berry}}
|[[Petaya Berry]]
|96
|96
|144
|96
|- style="background: #FFF;"
!57
| {{Bag|Apicot Berry}}
|[[Apicot Berry]]
|96
|96
|144
|96
|- style="background: #FFF;"
!58
| {{Bag|Lansat Berry}}
|[[Lansat Berry]]
|96
|96
|144
|''?''
|- style="background: #FFF;"
!59
| {{Bag|Starf Berry}}
|[[Starf Berry]]
|96
|96
|144
|''?''
|- style="background: #FFF;"
!60
| {{Bag|Enigma Berry}}
|[[Enigma Berry]]
|96
|96
|144
|''?''
|- style="background: #FFF;"
!61
| {{Bag|Micle Berry}}
|[[Micle Berry]]
|—
|96
|144
|''?''
|- style="background: #FFF;"
!62
| {{Bag|Custap Berry}}
|[[Custap Berry]]
|—
|96
|144
|''?''
|- style="background: #FFF;"
!63
| {{Bag|Jaboca Berry}}
|[[Jaboca Berry]]
|—
|96
|144
|''?''
|- style="background: #FFF;"
!64
| {{Bag|Rowap Berry}}
|[[Rowap Berry]]
|—
|96
|144
|''?''
|- style="background: #FFF;"
!''?''
| {{Bag|Roseli Berry}}
|[[Roseli Berry]]
|—
|—
|—
|48
|- style="background: #FFF;"
!''?''
| {{Bag|Kee Berry}}
|[[Kee Berry]]
|—
|—
|—
|96
|- style="background: #FFF;"
!''?''
| {{Bag|Maranga Berry}}
|[[Maranga Berry]]
|—
|—
|—
|96
|}
{{-}}
===[[e-Reader]] Berries===
{| class="roundy sortable" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; border: 1px solid #{{ruby color}}; background: #{{sapphire color}};"
|-
! style="background: #{{sapphire color light}}; {{roundytl}};" | No.
! style="background: #{{sapphire color light}};" | Spr
! style="background: #{{sapphire color light}};" | Berry
! style="background: #{{sapphire color light}}; {{roundytr}};" | {{gen|III}}
|- style="background: #FFF;"
! 43
| [[File:TagPumkin.png]]
| [[Pumkin Berry]]
| 72
|- style="background: #FFF;"
! 43
| [[File:TagDrash.png]]
| [[Drash Berry]]
| 72
|- style="background: #FFF;"
! 43
| [[File:TagEggant.png]]
| [[Eggant Berry]]
| 72
|- style="background: #FFF;"
! 43
| [[File:TagStrib.png]]
| [[Strib Berry]]
| 96
|- style="background: #FFF;"
! 43
| [[File:TagChilanIII.png]]
| [[Chilan Berry (Generation III)|Chilan Berry]]
| 4
|- style="background: #FFF;"
! 43
| [[File:TagNutpea.png]]
| [[Nutpea Berry]]
| 72
|- style="background: #FFF;"
! 43
| [[File:TagGinema.png]]
| [[Ginema Berry]]
| 56
|- style="background: #FFF;"
! 43
| [[File:TagKuo.png]]
| [[Kuo Berry]]
| 56
|- style="background: #FFF;"
! 43
| [[File:TagYago.png]]
| [[Yago Berry]]
| 72
|- style="background: #FFF;"
! 43
| [[File:TagTouga.png]]
| [[Touga Berry]]
| 72
|- style="background: #FFF;"
! 43
| [[File:TagNiniku.png]]
| [[Niniku Berry]]
| 72
|- style="background: #FFF;"
! class="roundybl" | 43
| [[File:TagTopo.png]]
| [[Topo Berry]]
| class="roundybr" | 96
|}

==See also==
* [[List of Berries by flavor]]
{{-}}
{{Project BerryDex notice}}

[[Category:Lists]]
[[Category:Berries|*]]

Talk:Eevee (Pokémon)

2013-11-08T09:31:42Z

ILOVETOGETIC: /* Evolution precedence */ new section

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== [[Same-type attack bonus|STAB]] status of [[Bite (move)|Bite]] ==

Please note that in RBY, {{M|Bite}} is {{T|Normal}}, so it is marked as a STAB move, while in later games it is {{T|Dark}}, so it's marked as STAB for an evolution (in this case - {{P|Umbreon}}). [[User:User142|User142]] ([[User talk:User142|Talk]]) 16:27, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

== Pokémon XD ==

Hey, does anyone have XD? There are evolution items for Umbreon and Espeon in that game instead of Happiness evolutions. Does anyone know what they are? They should problably be listed here. --[[User:Zeta|Zeta]] 19:06, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

I think they were Sun Shard (Espeon) and Moon Shard (Umbreon) [[User:Xanhawk|Xanhawk]]

== [[Generation II]] evolutions ==

Say, in XD, does Eevee need to hold the Sun/Moon shard and level up to evolve? or simply be exposed to them like a stone? [[User:DanPMK|MK]] 15:34, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
:Hold and level up. [[User:TTEchidna|Tom Temprotran]] 09:36, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
::Does it also require happiness to be maxed? So many sites have conflicting information regarding them in XD. [[User:DanPMK|MK]] 13:07, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
:::No, just stick it on and level up. --[[User:Argy|Argy]] 18:46, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
::::All you need is to have the shard with you. Eevee doesn't have to be holding it. -[[User:Happy Mask Man|Happy Mask Man]] 19:18, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
:::::Wrong, Eevee does have to be holding the shard to evolve. [[User:Jake30502|Jake30502]] 15:03, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
::::::Is the items Sun and Moon Shard capable of veing transferred into R/S/FR/LG/E? [[User:Ht14|ht14]] 03:15, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
:::::::No. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 03:16, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
::::::::Have you tried it though? I wonder why not though...do you have to evolve your Eevee when you get the item? [[User:Ht14|ht14]] 02:07, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
The shards are Key Items. Eevee can't hold it. About the happiness, yes it needs to be maxed; but it's ''already'' maxed at the beginning of the game.--[[User:Goukazaru|Nostalgia]] 00:52, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

== Do The Eeveelutions Still Have A High Stat? ==

Are The Eeveelutions Still Following The Stats Where A Certain Evolution Has The Highest Stat Compared To The Family?
For Example, Vapoureon Has The Highest HP Stat Tha All Of The Rest; Jolteon Has The Highest Speed Stat Than The Others.
- Tesh -
:Look at their base stats. They're the same totals, they're just different as far as focus, so yes, all of them have one stat higher than the rest. --'''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 04:35, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
:... except there's six stats and seven Eeveelutions, meaning two had to specialize in the same thing. Apparently, it's the Special Attack ones. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] ~[[User talk:Pie|♪]][[Special:Contributions/Pie|♫]] 05:26, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
::Which is what I meant by focus, since although Espeon and Glaceon both have the 130 in Special Attack, 95 in Special Defense, and 65 in HP, Attack, Defense, and Speed does differ. So really, if they do make nine more Eeveelutions, many will share the strongest stats, but there'd still be room for base stat variance. --'''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 00:48, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

==help==
dos anybody know if i beat collaseum and trade umbrion and espieon can i mat one of the with a nother pokemon a couple times and get the othe evvealoution {{unsigned|Shiny evvee}}

No, since they're both male. Also, if you want help, try typing like someone over the age of 3. {{unsigned|Fishman}}
:{{p|Ditto}}. And I agree, try typing like you know English. Dammit, you people are the reason that the school systems are failing. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 05:47, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

::I'm not sure, maybe he's a kid who learnt the internet at age 4...Or he's just plain inattentive, impossibly inaccurate and unintelligent. '''[[User:Optimus35|Optimus35]][[User talk:Optimus35|Talk]] | [[User:Optimus35/Diamond&Pearl|DP]]''' 10:21, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
:::This is also meant for the forums.... [[User:Ht14|ht14]] 00:50, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

== Name origin - Eon ==

:"''Eon also means a very long time, which is how long it takes for Eevee to evolve without the aid of an evolutionary stone''"
but in [[Generation I]] Eevee cannot evolve without stones! can I remove this sentence? --[[User:Valepert|Valepert]] 21:02, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
:But that's ONLY in GenI. Why remove it? Don't remove it, as it explains why it's called "Eon". >< [[User:TinaTheKirlia|Tina]][[User:TinaTheKirlia/Sandbox|☆]][[User:TinaTheKirlia/Favorites|♥]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|♫]] 21:05, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
::Even then, it doesn't take an eon to evolve without a stone. You can have a level 2 Espeon or Umbreon. '''[[User:TTEchidna|TTE]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:54, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

:Thinking about it eon could refer to the amount of time it takes a regular species to evolve, and since Eevee is so adaptable it could be that it represents eons of evolution (as it has mastered in some way). If you can make sense of that it may help. --☆[[User:Woodland Mudkip|Woodland:M]] ☆ 20:29, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

:Don't forget that Pokemon in the games have a level cap. Theoretically, if there were no level caps Eevee would evolve eventually. [[User: Kyle95]] December 20, 2008 (UTC)

== Palindromes ==

How many palindrome pokémon are there? I only know of two, Eevee and Girafarig. If those are the only two, might their trivia take note of the other?

Also, I joined just to ask the above question. Why doesn't bulbapedia allow anon to edit? [[User:Zeek Aran|Zeek Aran]] 05:41, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Also also, can someone post in my user page so my name turns blue? It bothers me. Another question, why doesn't bulbapedia allow User page edits? I get "You do not have permission to edit pages in the User namespace." [[User:Zeek Aran|Zeek Aran]] 05:44, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

1. 3 Pokémon names are palindromes (Eevee, Girafarig and Ho-oh)

2. Use Proper GrAmmAr.

3. It's been answer 4,000,000,000,000 time, And I can't be bothered making it the 4,000,000,000,001'th time.

--[[User:Force Fire|Force Fire]] 05:47, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Hm. Good greeting. Please tell me how my grammar is improper. I see I could have put a colon or semicolon on my second sentence instead of a comma, but what else? [[User:Zeek Aran|Zeek Aran]] 05:50, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

:Pokémon. Not pokémon. Capitalize. Bulbapedia. Not bulbapedia.'''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''05:52 4 Jun 2008'''''

::Is that all? Do you get on to everyone who doesn't capitalize pokémon or site names? [[User:Zeek Aran|Zeek Aran]] 05:55, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

::: It just makes it proper, Pokémon is a name of a Tv show (Or something), and Bulbapedia is a name of a site, Both being N-O-U-N-S (Nouns). --[[User:Force Fire|Force Fire]] 05:57, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

:::: Pokémon is the name of a manga, series of video games, and anime. It's also the type of creatures in those. One doesn't call a scarab a type of Beetle, but a beetle, so I thought pokémon would sound proper enough. You don't capitalize nouns. You capitalize PROPER nouns. [[User:Zeek Aran|Zeek Aran]] 06:02, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::I don't really get it, either... but it's official policy that Pokémon is capitalized. It doesn't matter as much on talk pages as in the main namespace, but like with other sorts of proper grammar, it makes it look more like you know what you're doing. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Talk))]] 06:26, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
::::::It's Pokémon because it IS a proper noun. Why? It's a species of imaginary creatures. Imaginary. Name. Name. Proper Noun. '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''07:05 4 Jun 2008'''''

:::::::Why is everyone talking about grammar? I thought this was about palindromes! [[User:Thermorules123]] 02:57, 26 Dec 2008

:::::::: I see, I now have the power to make people go of-topic..... And by the way, Nouns do need to be capital too, A noun is A place (London), a name (Andrew) and A thing (Ball, Not really {{tt|necessary|Correct Spelling?}} to capitilize though) --[[Charizard (Pokémon)|Force]] [[User:Force Fire|''Fire'']] [[User talk:Force Fire|''talk'']] 15:07, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

:::::::::You only need to capitalize names. [[User:Thermorules123]] 03:35, 26 Dec 2008

== Super Smash Bros. Brawl ==

I removed the bit about Eevee appearing in ''Brawl'' and evolving into one of its seven evolutions. Simply put, Eevee does not appear out of a Poké Ball in that game. Nor do its evolutions. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 15:02, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

== Interesting Fact ==

Should it be noted somewhere that eevee's original evolutions (vaporeon, jolteon, flareon) are immune from damage by their own type because of their special abilities. Vaporeon=water absorb, jolteon=volt absorb, flareon=flash fire[[User:Darkcloud1111|Darkcloud1111]] 07:20, 7 September 2008 (UTC)Darkcloud1111
:No. [[User:Ht14|''ht'']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 13:36, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

== Evolving into Leafeon and Glaceon ==

I thought when an you want to evolve Eevee into Leafeon or Glaceon, you had to be in the same patch of grass as the Mossy Rock or Frosty Rock. The information on doing so, at least in Eevee's article, says you just have to be in Eterna Forest or Route 217 to do it. So, which one is true? [[User:Superbreeder|Superbreeder]] [[User talk:Superbreeder|What's up?]] 00:09, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
:You just need to be on the route. [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * [[User talk:ArcToraphim|the Arc Toraph]] 01:11, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

== Level Up Evolutions ==

Does anyone know what happens if you level up a [[happiness|happy]] Eevee in (say) [[Eterna Forest]] during the [[time|day]]? Does the location or happiness evolution take precidence? In this example, would you get a {{p|Leafeon}} or an {{p|Espeon}}? I don't have the games so I can't test it. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] 02:49, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

:That is a pickle. I guess it would make sense to say the evolutionary path would be chosen at random with a 50/50 chance of getting Leafeon or Espeon.[[User:Bttsstewart|Bttsstewart]] 04:55, 8 December 2008 (UTC)Bttsstewart

::Hey, that sounds like a fun theory to test. I'll get back to you. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 05:04, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
:::Location takes precedence. I tested it. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:08, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
::::Aw man! TTE spoiled my fun. Maybe I'll just do it anyway{{tt|.|wouldn't want your game to be a fluke now, would we? :D}} — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 05:12, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::However, what if you evolved two happy Eevee right on the border between day and night, at the same time through the same battle. One initiates evolution sequence before the time period switches, the other initiates after (DS closing may be involved). '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:13, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
::::::<nowiki>*</nowiki>rushes to daycare* — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 05:15, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Before 4 AM? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:38, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
::::::::Er, not likely mate. If you can do it faster feel free. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 08:21, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::::: Eterna Forest has a sign inside it claiming that it is "The place where time stands still". I think this is trying to hint that Umbreon/Espeon aren't possible to obtain inside it. Not sure about the conditions for Glaceon though, just thought it was interesting to note =) --[[User:Improv|Improv.]] ''([[User talk:Improv|talk]])'' 22:16, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
:Where is siad sign?[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]] 22:19, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
::As soon as you step inside, you can see the sign. Sorry about my signiature =/ --[[User:Improv|Improv.]] ''([[User talk:Improv|talk]])'' 01:11, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
:::I'd always taken this to mean that it referred to it being an '''eterna'''l forest, but this is also promising... As much as I hate trivia, this is kind of ok! I'll add it to the Eterna Forest article if it isn't already there. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 08:19, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
:So does this mean that the same rule applies to [[Route 217]], where {{p|Glaceon}} evolves? [[User:XxXcharmanderXxX|--Charmander]] ''[[User_talk:XxXcharmanderXxX|-(talk]] or [[Special:Contributions/XxXcharmanderXxX|stalk!)]]'' 03:43, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
::Because if it is, that information should be added to [[Route 217|the page]]. [[User:XxXcharmanderXxX|--Charmander]] ''[[User_talk:XxXcharmanderXxX|-(talk]] or [[Special:Contributions/XxXcharmanderXxX|stalk!)]]'' 03:47, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
:::Yeah, if you evolve your Eevee OUTSIDE on Route 217, it will become a Glaceon. Indoors (Rare Candy inside a house when happiness is max'd) it takes the Espeon/Umbreon route. Same with Eterna Forest (the forest area where Moss Rock is) vs the exterior area accessed via Cut. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 18:33, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
But this dosn't awnser what will happen if said eevee was also holding a evolutionary stone. We will test this.--[[user:Mtn otter|Mtn otter]] We are the Void 01:28, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
:It will evolve into Leafeon/Glaceon, because holding an evolutionary stone DOES NOT activate the stone when battling.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Ho-Oh (Pokémon)|orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Lugia (Pokémon)|ire]] 01:32, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
::Yes. But they do activate upon level up, which two types of it's evolution require, and the other one can be done with or with out it.--[[user:Mtn otter|Mtn otter]] We are the Void 01:48, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
:::Leveling up doesn't activate a held evo stone - I just tested with a fire stone on an Eevee in Pt. Because of this it will take the location/time evolution upon level up, even if an Evo stone is held. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 04:51, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

== Catchable, but no attacking moves... ==

Is Eevee the only one that does this? When you catch it in DP from the Trophy Garden, all four moves it has are status moves. Does anything but the four cocoons and Abra have this... hindrance? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 18:34, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
:Ralts in DP only has Growl when chained. — [[User:Laoris|Laoris]] ([[User_Talk:Laoris|Blah]]) 18:45, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
::That is, if you get a chain of level 4 or level 5 Ralts. Level 6 would know Confusion. — [[User:Laoris|Laoris]] ([[User_Talk:Laoris|Blah]]) 18:48, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
:::...{{p|Ditto}}... [[User:Ht14|''ht'']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 03:35, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
::::Not so sure how much Ditto would count, as Transform could potentially gain it attacking moves. Eevee and Ralts, though, sure. I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]]. Come see my new and improved user page, and [[User talk:Missingno. Master|tell me what you think!]] 03:37, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::Good point...that means {{p|Smeargle}} could be scratched out as well... [[User:Ht14|''ht'']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 03:41, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
::::::Oh, yeah, forgot about Smeargle! Yeah, Smeargle's out. I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]]. Come see my new and improved user page, and [[User talk:Missingno. Master|tell me what you think!]] 03:47, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::::There's also {{p|Magikarp}}, which you can find knowing only {{m|Splash}} if you use an Old Rod near just about any body of water. That one could be questionable though. [[User:Superbreeder|Super]][[User talk:Superbreeder|breeder]] 17:29, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
::::::::eevee may be the only one with a full attack set with no offensive moves. abra, ditto, and smeargle only learn one move, but thats only because ditto and smeagle and designed that way and abra doesnt learn any attacks until after it evolves[[User:Darkcloud1111|darkcloud1111]] 18:00, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

== Pokémon Yellow ==

Is there a condition(s) which determine which of the three possible evolutions that Blue's Eevee has? If so, what are they, and should they be added into the article?--[[User:Ggled|Ggled]] 21:43, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
:They're listed on {{ga|Blue}}'s article, and no, it should not be added to this article. - [[User:Kogoro|'''<sc>Kogoro</sc>''']] '''|''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''<sc>Talk to me</sc>''']] - 21:48, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

== Information that I'm sure if it is true or not, need confirmation ==

I think that it may be possible to breed one with one of the moves that has the same move type as one of it's evolutions by raising two Flareon's with Flamethrower, or something. Two Jolteon's with Thunderbolt, etc.--[[User:Tmwps|Tmwps]] 11:06, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
:Only if the Eevee can learn those attacks too. And we don't list moves that can be indirectly passed down by TM unless they are in the internal coding of the game. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 11:08, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

== Steps listed incorrect? ==

I've been breeding Eevee in Platinum, and my eggs have been taking 10,200 steps to hatch, where the article lists 9180. Can anyone else test this? [[User:Seraph|Seraph]]

== Day & Night ==

The article mentions that Eevee evolved into Espeon during the day, and Umbreon at night time...
Though it doesn't mention what happens if it evolves during the morning...
...Personally, I'm not 100% sure what actually happens (I believe it was Espeon?)...
But regardless, I think it should be confirmed and added to the article. {{unsigned|M190049}}

:{{pkmn|Stadium 2}}'s library stated the result was Espeon when done in the morning. Sure, Stadium 2's data is fully accurate only up to [[Generation II]], but I'm pretty sure something like this would hold true in [[Generation IV]] as well...--[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 21:10, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

== Multiple requirements met ==

What would happen in the event eevee has reached the level of happiness necessary to evolve into either espeon or umbreon, but was leveld up in eternia forest or route 217?--[[User:Skaisdead|Skaisdead]] 21:44, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
:As discussed in various other places, the '''location''' evolution takes precedence over the straight happiness one. This should be in the article somewhere though... —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:57, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

== Can Eevee learn Endure by breeding? ==

I stuck an Eevee in the Daycare with a Buneary that knew Endure and the Eevee that hatched from the eggs knew Endure too. When I swapped the Buneary for a Monferno and hatched more Eevee, they didn't know Endure anymore. Does that mean Endure is an egg move for Eevee? [[User:Avalanche lily|Avalanche lily]] 19:11, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
:[New comments to bottom plz]. Endure is a TM move. Any move that can be learned by TM will be passed down. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:46, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

== There's no ring around its tail, right? ==

[http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/6185/6125.jpg This] Sugimori art shows an Eevee with a ring around its tail. Maybe it's just that Eevee, but no other Eevee has been shown with a ring, right? [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 00:50, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
:Light reflection.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Ho-Oh (Pokémon)|orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Lugia (Pokémon)|ire]] 01:31, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
==Ok...==
Please fix the egg hatch time. It's really 10,200 steps, not 9,400--[[User:Skymin23|FlyingSkymin23]] 02:12, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

== Leaf/Glace in HGSS ==
Do you have to trade Eevee to DPPt to evolve or is there a place in HGSS?
I can't really trade cos I'm not always around someone with a DS. (Although, I can always trade over WiFi.) [[User:SallieEspeon|Hullo! My name is Sallie and I am a Cloud fangirl. w00t!]] 22:06, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
:Yup, same goes for Magneton, and Eevee from FRLG to RSECXD in order to evolve into Espeon/Umbreon. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 22:07, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

== Eeveelutions To Be Created ==
I think it should be mentiond in the trivia that Eevee has yet to gain evolutions of normal, fighting, dragon, poison, ground, rock, steel, flying, bug, and ghost types. Is it okay if i put this in there? [[User:EpicShadow|EpicShadow]] 10:07, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
:Um... no. It can be assumed that it doesn't have evolutions of those types by reading which types it CAN evolve into. Including that as trivia would be like including that that Wormadam doesn't have a fire/water/ice/etc. cloak. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 20:05, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
::Eevee already has Normal type evolution, itself. [[User:Ruberduck0123|Ruberduck0123]] 04:49, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

== RSE Pokédex ==

I noticed that in the Pokédex area, it doesn't include it's RSE entries. I would add the information, but I don't know if it's correct, and I didn't want to make a huge change. [[User:Pawsrent|Pawsrent]] 18:31, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

== First appearance of evolutions in the anime ==

In the trivia section, one of the items states that the first onscreen appearance of an Eevee evolution was in DP, "thirteen years" into the series (the item begins, "Despite the fact..."). Am I interpreting this incorrectly? All three of the original evolutions are in [[The Battling Eevee Brothers]], and appear again in [[The Ultimate Test]]. Am I insane?

[[User:Bobbadagirl|Bobbadagirl]] 02:23, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
:Yes, you are. and by evolution it means the act of evolution not the evolved form [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 02:46, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

== Eevee's Gender Ratio ==

It used to be 12.5% male and 82.5% female... I can't find the edit that it changed but it was.. I know it was because I spent an entire night breeding to get the eeveelutions with the perfect characteristics for each one.. Ended up with two and a half boxes of eevees and only about 9 of them were male.. Can someone else varify this and/or fix it? I can't find the edit to revert it myself. [[User:F1SH13|F1SH13]] 02:05, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
:The information was taken from the game data itself. It isn't wrong and it was never any different. You just got lucky. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 03:15, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

== Could somebody add this to the Moves obtained by Breeding templaye? ==

eevee (and, by extension, all evo's) can gain the Move Shadow Ball by breeding. HOWEVER, i do not know what the espeon i got from a random Japanese guy was bred with, sooooooo...
(It may just be Espeon's move!) [[User:Sartharis|Sartharis, God of Twilight]] 01:33, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
:[[Breeding#Passing moves down|Any move that the father knows that the baby can learn by TM will be passed down.]] It doesn't need to be added separately, as it would be a redundant waste of space. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 02:26, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

== Espeon and Umbreon obtainable in RSE? ==

Ruby, Sapphire, and Emerald all have internal clocks. Does this mean Espeon and Umbreon can evolve from Eevee in these games?
If the answer's "no", then is there any way to obtain Espeon and Umbreon (in Generation III) without owning XD? [[User:SoItBegins|SoItBegins]] 09:03, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
:Yes, it can evolve in RSE. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 09:18, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
==What would happen if...==
What would happen if Eevee was evolving via friendship at 7:59 PM, and while it was evolving it became 8:00 PM? (Isn't 8:00 when most night-based evolutions happen? If it isn't, let me know and I'll facepalm myself....) Would Eevee become Espeon or Umbreon???[[User:Eeveewithwings123|Eeveewithwings123]] ([[User talk:Eeveewithwings123|talk]]) 00:36, 23 December 2012 (UTC)
:If it's in the middle of the actual evolve sequence when the time changes, then won't switch once the animation's started, it'll use the former time. I'd be interested to know precisely where in the sequence it actually checks the time, I'd guess it's when the battle ends and it checks to see whether any Pokémon have met the conditions to evolve. Which would mean that once it's in the evolve screen, it's already decided.

:Also, the change between day and night is different depending on what Generation game you're playing and what season it is (for Gen V). Full details can be found on our [[time]] page. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 03:03, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

==New Eevee-lutions?==

I found this picture on another website. I didn't see information on this site or Serebii. Any truth to it?

Picture: [http://pokebot.everyboty.net/pix/1179.jpg See Here]. [[User:Darkcloud1111|Darkcloud1111]] ([[User talk:Darkcloud1111|talk]]) 21:28, 13 January 2013 (UTC)
:It's a fanmade picture. I think I've seen it around a few time. --[[User:Funktastic~!|'''It's''' '''Funktastic~!''']][[User talk:Funktastic~!|''話してください'']] 21:35, 13 January 2013 (UTC)
::I thought so. With G6 coming out however, I wanted to be sure as the person that sent me the picture was very convinced. [[User:Darkcloud1111|'''''Darkcloud1111''''']][[User talk:Darkcloud1111|'''~Fastest Hero Alive''']] 22:13, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

== Ninfia ==

Is a real new Eeveeloshon.http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml [[User:Random Chaos|Random Chaos]] ([[User talk:Random Chaos|talk]]) 12:40, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

Also can we add something like this to the top:
Ninfia through an unknown method (Generation VI onward).
and the number has to be changed from seven to eight.
--[[User:CoolDudeAl|CoolDudeAl]] ([[User talk:CoolDudeAl|talk]]) 23:48, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

Can Sylveon (Ninfia's English name) be added to the evolution chart? [[User:SeanWheeler|SeanWheeler]] ([[User talk:SeanWheeler|talk]]) 02:22, 15 February 2013 (UTC)
:Not yet, we know barely nothing about it, such as the evolution method or the type Sylveon belongs to. We should wait. [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|''talk'']] 02:57, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

== "Eievui" - what on earth?! ==

Um, for the Japanese name of Eevee to be romanized as "Eievui" it would literally have to be エイエヴイ; last time I checked it was イーブイ, which romanizes as "iivui" (or "īvui", as Wikipedia standards would like for us to believe). Can anyone explain to me why it's so incredibly, blatantly wrong? -[[User:Wohdin|Wohdin]] ([[User talk:Wohdin|talk]]) 02:12, 26 February 2013 (UTC)
:That is the romanization they use in the official merchandise. So that's what we use here. You can see it used [http://www.pokemon.co.jp/info/2012/11/121122_p01.html here]. [[User:Crystal Talian|Crystal]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|Talian]] 03:16, 26 February 2013 (UTC)
::Also, that's Hepburn standards, not Wikipedia standards. Hepburn is the typical way of phonetic romanization. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 06:17, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

== Evolution precedence ==

It has been established that location-based Eeveelutions take precedence over those with other level-up requirements. My question is: would an Eevee with high friendship as well as 2 Affection hearts and a Fairy-type move always only attempt to evolve into Sylveon upon leveling up, or is there maybe a 50-50 chance that it might instead become Espeon or Umbreon (depending on time of day)? My guess is that it might only become Espeon or Umbreon if the criteria for Eevee to become Sylveon are not present because it would be the more readily changeable condition; making a Pokémon forget a move is easier to accomplish than dragging down its friendship rating, right? [[User:ILOVETOGETIC|I♥Togetic]] ([[User talk:ILOVETOGETIC|talk]]) 09:31, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

Talk:Status condition/Archive 1

2013-11-08T07:28:07Z

ILOVETOGETIC: /* Badly Poisoned Counter + Baton Pass */ request for clarification

==Damage==
"Check damage values 4 poison and burn, I think toxic keeps doubling and poison (and/or burn) does 1/16."
No, except for poison's 1/16 in RBY.
--[[User:Jshadias|Jshadias]] 04:48, 24 Feb 2005 (UTC)

== Non-volatile battle status ==

[[Status ailment#Non-volatile battle status]] makes no sense. --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 07:26, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

== Confusion ==

What's the damage for confused hits? --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 23:09, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
:There's nothing specific, to my knowledge. It depends on the attack and defense of the confused Pokémon, and it seems that's it. --[[User:Juunannio|Juunannio]] 4:46, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
::Which is why {{m|Swagger}} can make things get ugly pretty quick. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 22:25, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
:::I meant the base power. --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 19:38, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
::::He just said there was nothing specific about the base power. --[[User:Phred|Phred]] 05:31, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::Having a fixed base power can still let the damage depend on attack and defense. --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 06:21, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
::::::According to [http://www.smogon.com/dp/articles/status#pseudo-status Smogon], confusion causes a 40 power typeless physical hit. --[[User:Laoris|Laoris]] 05:53, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

== Miracle Eye and Mist. ==

First off, if Foresight and Odor Sleuth are listed, why isn't Miracle Eye? (Miracle Eye is an attack which is similar to Foresight/Odor Sleuth, but instead of allowing Normal/Fighting moves to hit Ghost-types, it allows Psychic attacks to hit Dark-types).

Also, Mist can be erased by Defog which I have added. {{unsigned|Nebula}}

== Poison ==
Can steel types become poisoned when eg. a steelix uses toxic on alakazam with synchronize?????--[[User:Wowy|Wowy]] 06:05, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
:Steel-types can ''be'' poisoned, for certain. I once had a Pineco that was poisoned, then evolved. I'd try to test that myself, but I half wonder if Synchronize works with a partner's attack, too. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:27, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
::Synchronize is programmed not to poison a Steel-type. Given that ability is programmed not to reflect all status conditions, however, it might just be the ability's effect.

::However, it is still possible to poison a Steel-type directly; the added effects of the moves {{m|Twineedle}} or, if used in standard grass in [[Generation III]], {{m|Secret Power}} can indeed poison a Steel-type. {{m|Psycho Shift}} should also be able to do the job. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 20:32, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

== {{m|Ice Ball}} ==

Does Ice Ball get doubled by {{m|Defense Curl}}? --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 08:47, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
:Okay, my testing suggests that it does. I used a level 100 {{p|Spheal}} against a level 100 {{p|Nidoking}}. Using Ice Ball on Nidoking in the first round, it did 42 damage. When I used Defense Curl first, it did 90 damage. One time, it crit the first round and did 98 damage. It appears that Defense Curl does double Ice Ball's initial damage. — [[User:Laoris|Laoris]] ([[User_Talk:Laoris|Blah]]) 19:20, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
::How do you know the damage? [[User:Ht14|''ht'']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 20:03, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
:::I used two DSes. — [[User:Laoris|Laoris]] ([[User_Talk:Laoris|Blah]]) 20:16, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

==?==
why are status ailments such as sleep and paralyzation called non-volatile? they seem pretty volatile to me [[User:Happizelpom|Happi]][[User talk:Happizelpom|zel]][[Special:Contributions/Happizelpom|pom]] 01:59, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
: Because they don't damage the affected Pokemon, unlike Poisoning and Burn [[User:Gastlys mama|Gastlys mama]] 18:08, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
::I think it's because they don't go away automatically after battle. See the [http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/volatile fifth dictionary entry]. We're using the word volatile to describe status ailments that are inherently temporary. There are better words, in my opinion. — [[User:Laoris|Laoris]] ([[User_Talk:Laoris|Blah]]) 18:25, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
::: But sleep doesn't go away automatically after battle (though it does go away during battle) and paralysis doesn't go away automatically, after or during battle. [[User:Gastlys mama|Gastlys mama]] 19:00, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
:::: I know. I'm saying that sleep and paralyzation don't go away automatically after battle, which is why they are described as ''non''-volatile. — [[User:Laoris|Laoris]] ([[User_Talk:Laoris|Blah]]) 19:48, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
::::: Oh, I see, I thought it meant volatile as in potentially dangerous or harmful, but it rather means the other (surely less used) meaning of likely to change. Faaaaaaaaair enough. PokéPokéPokéPokéPoké[[User:Gastlys mama|Gastlys mama]] 20:38, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
::::::I've never heard "volatile" used as "harmful". "Explosive", yes. --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 11:17, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Personally, I prefer the terms persistent and nonpersistent. I just think it's a more clear and accurate desriptor for that. But either way works. Whatever the consensus is works just fine. --[[User:Abra|Abra]] 04:37, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

== Poisoning ==

Would it be worthwhile noting that your last Pokemon dying of poison is the only way to black out outside of battle? Also, it could be added that the reason a poisoned Pokemon with one HP loses this status in Gen IV is probably to prevent that from happening.[[User:Gastlys mama|Gastlys mama]] 18:08, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
: Acutally, there was a glitch with the [[Pomeg Berry]] about that, that's the reason, more than the black out, because you'll still easily faint against a wild Pokémon. [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 23:12, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

== [[Pokérus]]? ==

I know it has its own article, but it can technically be considered a status ailment. If a Pokémon has it and no other status ailment it will display PKRS on the status bar in the summary...My point is, should we add a small section to this article and have it link to the Pokérus article? [[User:Beta Zero|'''β'''''etA'']] [[User talk:Beta Zero|''Zer'''''Ø''']] 02:51, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
:Pokerus is not a status ailment that causes a '''problem''' in battle. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 02:52, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
::Ailment is a negative word, therefore the Pokerus virus would not be counted as an ailment, although since every is willing to kill to get it, it might be an IRL ailment? Haha! --[[User:Lustre|Lustre]] 07:34, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

== Freezing ==

In the freeze section it mentions that sunny weather can reduce the chance of freezing, but no mention is made of the difference on the [[weather effects]] page. Does sunny weather actually reduce the chance of freezing, or should it be removed from this page? [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] 05:47, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
:I seem to remember, on [[Pokémon Stadium 2]]'s Pokémon Academy, it mentions that sunny weather reduces freezing chance - so this was true at least in Generation II. I would assume that they haven't removed or changed this feature... though why this isn't included in the weather page I don't know - I'm not sure whether to add it or not, since I don't know how much the percentage actually changes (halves, reduces to 2%, etc). It's certainly worth mentioning on the weather effects page, I'll do that now. [[User:NLawson|NLawson]] 13:29, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

Also in the freeze section, it is noted that no move has higher than 10% chance of freezing the enemy. On the [[List of moves that freeze]], however, secret power (in snow) is said to have a 30% chance of freezing. Which is correct? [[User:NLawson|NLawson]] 01:01, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

== Why are "battle statuses" listed as non-volatile? ==

Why are "battle statuses" listed as non-volatile? I'm pretty sure they go away after battle or I'd be using them more often ;)--[[User:MoonKing|MoonKing]] 02:20, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

== Paralysis ==

I believe I have conclusive testing that Ground-types cannot be paralyzed. I recently played multiple matches in Platinum's Battle Arcade in which the roulette landed on paralysis for my Pokémon. In all of these matches, my Porygon-Z was paralyzed, but my Garchomp and Torterra were not. This, combined with other articles off Bulbapedia that have listed this, leads me to find my evidence conclusive. If I am wrong, please correct me.
[[User:Ninjask|Ninjask]] 26 May 02:30:12 UTC

:Then odds are it's a glitch. Moves like {{m|Body Slam}} are supposed to be able to paralyze Ground-types. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 03:13, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
::Ground types can be paralyzed. The Battle Arcade paralyzes via electricity, noted by the lightning bolt, which Ground types aren't effected by. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 03:15, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

:::OK, so perhaps I didn't quite know that exact tidbit. But trust me, if they did paralysis by {{m|Stun Spore}} instead of {{t|electric}}ity, then odds are it would affect the Ground-types. Honestly, why would someone believe Ground-types can't be affected by paralysis as a whole based on that one Battle Arcade effect? That would be like saying that {{t|Steel}}-types can't be poisoned simply because the vast majority of poisoning moves are {{t|Poison}}-type; do keep in mind that {{m|Twineedle}} and, in certain areas in [[Generation III]], {{m|Secret Power}}, are non-Poison-type moves capable of poisoning and thus capable of poisoning Steel-types. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 03:23, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

== Badly Poisoned ==

Can Poison-Types be Badly Poisoned? It says they can't be normally poisoned, but I want to check. {{unsigned|SilverMetelthatisGold}}

:They can't be poisoned. Period. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 02:44, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

== Paralysis bug ==

In Gen 3, I'm pretty certain that the speed-reducing effect of paralysis does not come into effect until the turn after the target is paralysed. This is most commonly seen in Double Battles (at first I believed it was an XD bug until I recently noticed it in Emerald). That is, if a faster Pokémon paralyses a target who isn't the slowest on the field, they'll still attack second or third, even though their reduced speed from paralysis should make them the slowest on the field. In subsequent turns, the paralysed 'mon will be the last to attack as it should do. I should point out that it only seems to be the speed cut that doesn't apply to the infliction turn - move fail due to paralysis does sometimes kick in on this turn as per usual. In Gen 4, this 'bug' does not seem to occur. Is this something worth listing on the page? Is there a known explanation for this? My personal theory is that the move order of the Pokémon on the field is calculated before the attacks are performed, but I'm just guessing. [[User:Raylax|Raylax]] 00:53, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
:As far as I know (and this is partly what I've read and partly a guess - I could well be wrong) your personal theory is correct: move order is determined at the start of the round (before any attacks) and the "roll" (for lack of a better term) to see if a move fails due to paralysis is performed immediately before the move is launched. I would assume that rolls for defrosting, failure due to attraction and confusion, and waking up are all checked directly before the suffering Pokémon acts as well. [[User:NLawson|NLawson]] 01:10, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
::So, this would probably mean that if the speed is lowered with a move rather than Paralysis, like String Shot, then the same thing would happen. So it is probably not a bug, but the way it's meant to happen. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 02:36, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

== Damage of Burn and Poison Rounded? ==

The stated damage for these two is 1/8 of the Pokémon's max HP. When that damage is calculated, it would have to be a whole number. So is it rounded up or down? {{unsigned|Cheshy458}}
: Like all calculations in Pokémon, it's rounded down. [[User:Starscream|Starscream]] 13:03, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

== Hang on... ==

We've established that confusion self-damage is a 40-base power physical typeless move. But, is it typeless, or is it {{type|???}}? And if so, if a Pokemon becomes the ???-type, and hurts itself in its confusion, does it gain STAB on the confusion damage? Because if it does, that might be something to note in the article! [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] wants YOU! [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch/Bulbapedia Branch|Join the Order of the Glitch!]] [[User talk: Missingno. Master|(my talk page)]] 18:50, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
:There is no type. It's just like recoil damage, except it's not based on how much damage you do to the opponent. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 21:36, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

==Attraction==
Instead, shouldn't we be calling it infatuation like the games do? I would change it, but I know how many links that would break.--[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 11:53, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
:Done anyway. If links break, we can fix them. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 12:04, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
::I tried {{template|anchor}}ing it. I hope that stops those links from breaking. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 12:08, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
:::You, sir, get six points and a fancy hat. (That is, of course, assuming the links lead to your anchor...) ;) —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 08:12, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
::::From what I'd seen, most linked to Attraction (which if spotted, should be changed). I'm surprised it took so long before someone noticed that it was infatuation. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 09:43, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

==Infatuation in Double Battles==

If a Pokémon becomes infatuated in a double battle, is it only affected by infatuation if it tries to attack the Pokémon that used Attract on it/affected it with Cute Charm, or could it be immobilized attacking either foe? {{unsigned|HerbieHero}}
:Pretty sure it's immobilized entirely, ie attacking either foe. [[User:Smythe|Smythe]] 12:02, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

== Are you sure ice types can be frozen in gen I games? ==

It says on here that ice types can be frozen only in gen I. Most people are saying that's not true and I tested it on the yellow version and couldn't do it. Are you guys sure? [[User:Subsmoke|Subsmoke]] 17:30, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
:For the record: after further evidence in {{bmgf|60447|this thread}}, the ''except for Generation I'' has been removed from the page. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 08:00, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

== Staraptor? ==

The picture next to "Poison" is of Gliscor being affected by poison, but the caption underneath it says that Staraptor is being affected by poison instead. I'd fix it but I don't know how to edit picture captions. Could someone tell me how or fix it for me?--[[User:Celebi96|Celebi96]] 11:28, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
:The file was updated without being checked. [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Status_ailment&diff=prev&oldid=1156649 Here's how I fixed it]. File embedding is quite straightforward on a wiki: simply type something like <nowiki>[[</nowiki>File:Imagename.{{tt|ext|extension i.e. jpg, png}}|{{tt|displaytype|thumb, or frame, or nothing}}|{{tt|size|i.e. 220px}}|{{tt|alignment|left, right, center}}|Caption]]. Easy when you get the hang of it. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 11:34, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

== Status problems in Rumble ==

Someone mentioned that Poison-types cannot be poisoned, but in Pokémon Rumble they can. Also in Rumble, status problems are removed when moving to the next floor in an area (I believe this is also true in Mystery Dungeon, but I'm not 100% sure). Additionally, moves that restore health in Rumble do so over time, an effect which is removed by going to the next floor as well. I don't know if any of this is worth mentioning here, but I figured I would bring it up.
[[User:ILOVETOGETIC|Pokémaniac]] 21:52, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

==Infatuation==

Under infatuation can someone remove that Mew can infatuate other genderless pokemon, I tested it and it doesn't work. And I can't remove it because it won't let me edit the page. [[User:Pikiwyn|Pikiwyn]] 19:41, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
:Removed. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 20:32, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
::Thanks [[User:Pikiwyn|Pikiwyn]] 23:57, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

== Badly Poisoned Counter + Baton Pass ==
If a Pokémon is badly poisoned and it is Baton Passed to another Pokémon that is badly poisoned, does the badly poison counter reset, or is it kept from the Baton Passer? e.g. A Pokémon is badly poisoned for three turns and then uses Baton Pass to a Pokémon that is also badly poisoned. Does the new Pokémon lose a quarter of its health (1/16, 1/8, 3rd turn = 1/4) or does it start over and only lose 1/16th? —[[User:Naokohiro|Naokohiro]] 21:45, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
:The counter gets reset, I tested it. [[User:Pikiwyn|Pikiwyn]] 16:34, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
::I thought a badly poisoned Pokémon that rejoins a battle after being switched out would have its counter reset anyway? That means bad poison ''isn't'' Baton Passable and the counter is reset simply because the counter gets reset when the Pokémon is switched out, right? But then, what if a badly poisoned Pokémon Baton Passes to a Pokémon that is afflicted with ''regular'' poisoning? Does that Pokémon then become badly poisoned '''as well''' or is the "bad" '''transferred''' to the new one, leaving the Baton Passer who was badly poisoned with just regular poisoning if it reenters the battle? [[User:ILOVETOGETIC|I♥Togetic]] ([[User talk:ILOVETOGETIC|talk]]) 07:28, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

== Each major status ailment in its own article? ==

As it stands now, all status ailments, including the five major ones, share this article. I think there is much more that can be said about each of the major ones (plus the most common minor ones like flinch and confuse), enough so that they would merit their own article. This includes detailed effect descriptions, a list of moves (which already exist, they would just be integrated into the article), and related abilities and items (such as Flame Body or Flame Orb for burn).

I've made an [[User:Memo326/Burn|example page for a stand-alone Burn article]], made from the info in this article, the [[list of moves that burn]], the [http://dragonflycave.com/status.aspx status effect resource over at The Cave of Dragonflies], and common knowledge; it was pretty simple to create. (If this ever comes to the mainspace, the List of moves that burn article would then redirect to the moves section in the new page). So, do you agree that the most important status ailments deserve their own articles? '''[[User:Memo326|Memo]]'''[[User talk:Memo326|326]] 04:25, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
:I would say that burn, freeze, paralysis, poison, sleep, confusion, flinch and possibly infatuation deserve their own pages. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 07:37, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
::I like your Burn page. If we can enough information about each status that SnorlaxMonster listed, then I'm fine with separate pages for each status condition. I.e. enough info so that none of them are stubs. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 08:21, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
:::I like your article, my only comment would be to recommend removing the "Advantages" section. Bulbapedia is not here to provide strategy (beyond the empirical details of a given move) and this would be very subjective.--[[User:Beligaronia|Beligaronia]] ([[User talk:Beligaronia|talk]]) 08:28, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
::::Would we have to locate them all at '''NAME (status ailment)''' due to poison? Also, if these pages were to be created, a lot of switch statements would need to be made in {{template|Status}}. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 09:02, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
:::::I think it would just take one. <nowiki>[[{{#switch: {{{1|poison}}}|poison|burn|sleep|etc.={{{1}}} (status ailment)|Status ailment#{{{1}}}}}]]</nowiki> should do it. Since consistency is good, they would need to be at ''Name (status ailment)'' or ''Name (status)'' <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 09:44, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
::::::I was expecting we would have to compensate for all those different ways of saying it, like burn, burnt, burned, burning. I was expecting more of this:
<code><nowiki>[[{{#switch: {{{1|}}}
|poisoning|poisoned|poison=Poison (status ailment)|badly poisoned|badly poison|bad poison=Poison (status ailment)#Bad Poison|burning|burned|burnt|burn=Burn (status ailment)|asleep|sleeping|sleep=Sleep (status ailment)|freezing|frozen|freeze=Freeze (status ailment)|Paralyze|Paralyzed|Paralysis=Paralysis (status ailment)|confuse|confused|confusion=Confusion (status ailment)|cringe|cringed|cringing|flinched|flinching|flinch=Flinch (status ailment)|attraction|attracted|attracting|attract|infatuated|infatuate|infatuation=Infatuation (status ailment)|Status ailment#{{ucfirst:{{{1}}}}}}|{{{2|{{{1}}}}}}]]</nowiki></code>
::::::However, it shouldn't matter too much --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 12:52, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
:::::::To Beligaronia, I made the Advantages section so that I could logically include abilities or moves from which a Pokémon would benefit with a status ailment, such as {{a|Guts}} or {{m|Facade}} from burn, paralysis and poison, {{a|Steadfast}} from flinch and {{a|Tangled Feet}} from confuse, which don't fit under "causes" or "prevention and cure". I didn't want to separate by moves/abilities/items since in the same way that a move that may paralyze should be distinct from {{m|SmellingSalt}} (which would fit under "prevention and curing"), an ability which makes a Pokémon immune to paralysis ({{a|Limber}}) should be separated from an ability that causes it on contact ({{a|Static}}). Perhaps there is a better name/better way to organize it to remove the subjectiveness, but moves/abilities like Guts, Facade, Steadfast need to stay as they're related to the status ailment. '''[[User:Memo326|Memo]]'''[[User talk:Memo326|326]] 20:56, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
::::::::@SnorlaxMonster: We could also have a second parameter for display text.
::::::::@Memo: I see where you're going but your advantages section would need to be rewritten because it makes hints and suggestions (''being poisoned works more effectively''). Would "benefits" be a better retitle or is that going in circles? —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:51, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::Actually, in what I suggested, there is a second "display" parameter. As for "benefits", that still sounds a bit subjective. After "causes" and "prevention and cure" we should have "other effects" or "dependencies". --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 12:10, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::I like the idea of major status ailments having their own articles. This page is too cluttered, and doesn't even have all the information one might be looking for when they want to find out about a specific status ailment. I might also suggest that these pages have "In the anime" sections where they can detail occurrences from the show, such as when Ash's Charizard was frozen solid in the Orange Islands. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 12:17, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

== Constriction ==

Should we include this. Examples: whirlpool, wrap, and bind {{unsigned|Sudowooper}}
:Added. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 08:20, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

== WTF Err ==

I believe the image of Turtwig being harmed by Leech Seed should be removed from this page and instead put in a trivia section of the Leech Seed page. It is an inaccurate depiction of Leech Seed... its a grass-type... if I'm unmistaken...
[[User:Feng277394|Feng277394]] 07:40, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
:Leech Seed doesn't affect Grass-types... but until we have a better image, we'll keep using this one. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 11:20, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
::There are many better examples of leech seed that are already located on the Leech Seed page. Although no changes may be made to this page yet. We could atleast add this image to the errors/trivia section of the Leech Seed page or of the episode this originated from.[[User:Feng277394|Feng277394]] 23:44, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
:::Why the heck is this page populated by screens from the anime anyway? Even aside from this hysterical display of the show's blatant disregard for how the games work, they don't do an especially great job of showing what the status problems really do. Beyond aesthetics, at least. [[User:BP|BP]] 04:10, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
::::If you have an issue with it, the page isn't protected. Rather than just complaining about it, why don't you try and get some good images from other media and add them? [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 07:47, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
:::::I could. I may. Who knows. [[User:BP|BP]] 07:40, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
::::::Well, we could use [[a:File:Bulbasaur Leech Seed 4.png]]; however, a recent image is preferred to an older one. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 13:56, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

== Confusing Ducks? ==

This is something that's been bugging me for a long time. I realize it's not too relevant to this article itself, but I don't know where else to ask.

Does anyone here know why confusion makes ducks spin around the Pokemon's head, from Gen III onward? (Maybe II if I recall wrong) --[[User:Aescula|Aescula]] 05:58, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
:[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CirclingBirdies Typing cartoon thing]. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 07:11, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

== Animation ==

Does animation starts in Generation II or III (not in I. In I, it just shakes and there is text)? I can provide screenshots for both (as they are not present in articles) [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] 14:39, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

== Confusion turns ==

I have a question about
* the turns of being confused, says that 'Confusion wears off after 1-4 attacking turns', does it means when the random confused turn is 4, so that in fourth turn, the pokemon will out of confusion? Same question to the other status like sleep / taunt / disabled etc..
* when does the confusion turn counter decreases? also the other turn counters? [[User:Kolu|Kolu]] ([[User talk:Kolu|talk]]) 13:05, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

== King's Rock with multiple hits in one move. ==

Does the chance for Flinch apply once per move or once per hit? [[User:PLA|PLA]] ([[User talk:PLA|talk]]) 10:38, 19 October 2012 (UTC)
:Yes [[User:Kolu|Kolu]] ([[User talk:Kolu|talk]]) 00:08, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
::That wasn't a yes or no question. Did you mean "yes, it applies once per move," or "yes, it applies once per hit"? --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] [[User talk:AndyPKMN|(talk)]] 17:13, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

== Charge? ==

Does Charge's Electric-type attack boosting effect count as a volatile battle status? Defense Curl boosting the power of Rollout and Ice Ball applies, so I would assume Charge counts as well. [[User:Hyper Turtwig|Hyper Turtwig]] ([[User talk:Hyper Turtwig|talk]]) 20:25, 17 May 2013 (UTC)

Talk:Autotomize (move)

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ILOVETOGETIC: /* About the weight decrease... */ new section

== Really a variation of acid armor? ==

I mean, it also decreases the user's weight. --[[User:Joeshie|+ Joeshie +]] ''([[User talk:Joeshie|is Mæ!]])'' 21:17, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

== Really-ier? ==

Now it is related to Iron Defense? Other than being Steel and affecting stats, they seem nothing alike.
Shouldn't this be in its own category, especially since [to my knowledge] it is the only weight-lowering move?
[[User:DwarfWoot|DwarfWoot]] 19:55, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
: Well, it's certainly more like Iron Defense than Acid Armor, PP considered. Keep in mind also that they don't affect stats in just any way, but raise one stat two stages. [[User:PLA|PLA]] 23:11, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

== Also ==

Wouldn't this increase damage taken from [[Heat Crash]] and other moves like it?--[[User:Black Yin Zekrom|Black Yin Zekrom]] 23:32, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

Yep. [[User:PLA|PLA]] 23:59, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

== About the weight decrease... ==

What if, when this move is used, the user's weight is less than 100kg? Does it become 0kg or will it have a negative weight value? Also, it's not clear on this page and I'm not sure if it's defined elsewhere: how much can it decrease the Pokémon's weight by in total? I mean, does it do nothing after three uses of the move since (if the user's speed is unchanged to begin with) it can only be used three times to affect the user's speed because of the cap of +/-6 for any given stat and this move increases speed by 2 on each use? Or, does it only lighten the Pokémon on its first use and then just affect the speed afterward? Is there a cap on how much a Pokémon can change its weight by during a battle — like maybe +/-300, i.e., three uses of this move? [[User:ILOVETOGETIC|I♥Togetic]] ([[User talk:ILOVETOGETIC|talk]]) 06:18, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

Sleep (status condition)

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ILOVETOGETIC: /* In the {{pkmn|anime}} */ formerly claimed May's Combusken used Metronome; changed to Munchlax

[[File:Sleeping Pokémon.png|right|thumb|250px|{{AP|Heracross}} sleeping]]
The '''sleep''' condition (SLP) (Japanese: '''ねむり''' ''Sleeping'') causes a Pokémon to be unable to make a move. In [[Generation V]], Pokémon close their eyes when they are asleep, and their movement slows down.

==Effect==
Sleep causes a Pokémon to be unable to make a move for an indeterminate number of moves. The specifics vary between generations.

===Generation I===
Sleep lasts for a randomly chosen duration of 1 to 7 turns (1 to 3 in Stadium). A Pokémon cannot move on the turn it wakes up. A Pokémon can inflict self-induced sleep using the move {{m|Rest}}, which will restore all of the Pokémon's health and remove any other non-volatile status ailment. A {{DL|Level|Disobedience|disobedient}} Pokémon may also nap during battle.

Sleeping Pokémon are vulnerable to {{m|Dream Eater}}.

===Generation II onwards===
A Pokémon can move on the turn it woke up.

In addition to Dream Eater, sleeping Pokémon are now vulnerable to {{m|Nightmare}}.

[[Roaming Pokémon]] do not [[escape#Wild Pokémon|flee]] while asleep.

===Generation III===
Sleep lasts for a random duration from 1 to 6 turns.

[[Roaming Pokémon]] now attempt to flee in the usual way while asleep.

===Generation IV===
Sleep lasts for a random duration from 1 to 4 turns.

In the Japanese version of {{2v2|Diamond|Pearl}}, the minimum and maximum sleep count are 1 turn higher.<ref>[http://www.smogon.com/forums/showpost.php?p=648215&postcount=24 DP Battle Tower Records]</ref>

In addition to Dream Eater and Nightmare, sleeping Pokémon are now vulnerable to {{p|Darkrai}}'s Ability, {{a|Bad Dreams}}.

===Generation V===
Sleep lasts for a random duration from 1 to 3 turns. In addition, a Pokémon's sleep counter is reset to its original amount when switched out; this also applies for self-induced sleep. Also in Generation V, most Pokémon close their eyes while sleeping, and their animation moves more slowly as well.

===Appearance===
{{movegen
|type=status
|genI=Sleep I
|genII=Sleep II
|genIII=Sleep III
}}
{{movegen
|type=status
|genIV=Sleep IV
|genV=Sleep
}}
{{movegen
|type=status
|Stad=Sleep Stad|
}}

==Causes==
===Moves===
{| align="center" width="100%" style="background: #{{status color}}; {{roundy}}; border: 5px solid #{{status color light}};"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" align="center" class="sortable roundy" style="background: #FFFFFF; border:1px solid #{{status color}}; border-collapse:collapse;"
|-
! Move
! width="15%" | [[Type]]
! width="15%" | [[Damage category|Category]]
! Probability
! [[Power]]
! [[Accuracy]]
! width="40%" | Notes
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Dark Void}}
{{typetable|Dark}}
{{statustable|Status}}
| 100%
| class="c" | —
| 80%
| align="left" | Causes Sleep on both opponents in a Double Battle.
|-
| class="l" | {{m|GrassWhistle}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
{{statustable|Status}}
| 100%
| class="c" | —
| 55%
|
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Hypnosis}}
{{typetable|Psychic}}
{{statustable|Status}}
| 100%
| class="c" | —
| {{tt|60%|70% in Diamond and Pearl only}}
|
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Lovely Kiss}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
{{statustable|Status}}
| 100%
| class="c" | —
| 75%
|
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Relic Song}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
{{statustable|Special}}
| 10%
| 75
| 100%
| align="left" | Hits all opponents in Double Battles and all adjacent opponents in Triple Battles. Causes {{p|Meloetta}} to change [[Form differences#Meloetta|Forme]].
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Rest}}
{{typetable|Psychic}}
{{statustable|Status}}
| 100%
| class="c" | —
| class="c" | —
| class="l" | Puts user to sleep, restoring HP to 100% and removing any other non-volatile [[status ailment]]. Sleep will only last 2 turns.
|-
| align="left" | {{m|Secret Power}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
{{statustable|Physical}}
| 30%
| 70
| 100%
| align="left" | Causes Sleep when used in tall grass (Generation {{gen|IV}} and {{gen|V}}) and very tall grass ([[Generation III]]).
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Sing}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
{{statustable|Status}}
| 100%
| class="c" | —
| 55%
|
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Sleep Powder}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
{{statustable|Status}}
| 100%
| class="c" | —
| 75%
|
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Spore}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
{{statustable|Status}}
| 100%
| class="c" | —
| 100%
|
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Yawn}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
{{statustable|Status}}
| 100%
| class="c" | —
| 100%
| class="l" | Takes effect at end of the next turn after use. If the afflicted switches, the move does not take effect.
|}
|}

===Other causes===
The [[Ability]] {{a|Effect Spore}} can cause sleep, {{status|poison}}, or {{status|paralysis}}. A disobedient [[outsider Pokémon]] may take a nap instead of obeying commands.

==Prevention and curing==
===Items===
Being put to sleep can be cured with the use of an {{DL|Status ailment healing item|Awakening}} or a [[Chesto Berry]] ([[Mint Berry]] in [[Generation II]]). In addition, like all other major [[status ailment]]s, it can be cured by the items {{DL|Status ailment healing item|Full Heal}}, {{DL|Status ailment healing item|Lava Cookie}}, {{DL|Potion|Full Restore}}, {{DL|Status ailment healing item|Old Gateau}}, {{DL|Herbal medicine|Heal Powder}}, [[Lum Berry]], {{DL|Status ailment healing item|Casteliacone}}, and [[Sacred Ash]]. In [[Generation I]] games and its {{game|FireRed and LeafGreen|s|remakes}}, [[Poké Flute]] can be reused indefinitely, while {{DL|Flute|Blue Flute}} can be used in [[Generation III]] and {{gen|IV}} games.

===Moves===
{{m|Heal Bell}} and {{m|Aromatherapy}} also removes it from all Pokémon in the party. {{m|Safeguard}} will prevent the user's team from being afflicted by any status ailment for five turns and a Pokémon behind a {{m|substitute}} cannot be put to sleep (other than using Rest). {{m|Wake-Up Slap}}'s [[base power]] increases when used on sleeping targets, but wakes them up. Pokémon hit with {{m|Worry Seed}} have their Ability temporarily changed to {{a|Insomnia}}, effectively preventing them from sleeping, and waking already asleep targets. It can target both friends and foes, but not the user, or Pokémon with the Abilities {{a|Truant}} or {{a|Multitype}}. No Pokémon can sleep while one of them is using the continuous move {{m|Uproar}}.

===Abilities===
Pokémon with the Abilities {{a|Vital Spirit}} and {{a|Insomnia}} cannot be put to sleep. In a similar vein, Pokémon with the Ability {{a|Leaf Guard}} cannot be put to sleep if the weather is [[weather conditions|intensely sunny]]. A Pokémon with {{a|Natural Cure}} will be cured upon switching out, one with the {{a|Hydration}} Ability will be cured while it is [[weather conditions|raining]] (even if {{m|Rest|self-afflicted}}), one with {{a|Early Bird}} halves the amount of turns it is asleep, one with {{a|Shed Skin}} has a 1/3 chance of being cured every turn, and an ally with {{a|Healer}} has a 1/3 chance of curing an ally's ailment every turn during [[Double battles|double]] and [[Triple Battle]]s.

===Miscellaneous===
In [[Pokémon Colosseum]] and {{XD}}, the Call option replaces the usual [[escape|Run]] option, as most battles in Orre are {{pkmn|battle|Trainer battles}}. The Call option is mainly used to snap [[Shadow Pokémon]] out of [[Hyper Mode]] or [[Reverse Mode]], but it can also awaken sleeping Pokémon.

==Benefits==
The moves {{m|Snore}} and {{m|Sleep Talk}} can only be used while asleep. Pokémon with {{a|Guts}} and {{a|Quick Feet}} will have their {{stat|Attack}} or {{stat|Speed}} boosted respectively while they are asleep, but must use the aforementioned moves to completely reap their benefits. On the other hand, Pokémon with the Ability {{a|Marvel Scale}} will have their {{stat|Defense}} boosted, and do not need to use these moves.

==In other media==
==={{pkmn|Mystery Dungeon}}===
{{main|Status ailments in Mystery Dungeon#Sleep-related conditions|Sleep-related conditions in Mystery Dungeon}}
In the Pokémon Mystery Dungeon series, there are several different varieties on the sleeping ailment. The standard, '''Asleep''', functions similarly to how Sleep does in the main games. When a Pokémon is asleep, he or she cannot act for 3 to 6 turns. The sleeping Pokémon can use {{m|Snore}} and {{m|Sleep Talk}}, and is vulnerable to {{m|Dream Eater}} and {{a|Bad Dreams}}.

{{m|Rest}} in Mystery Dungeon is turned into a move that causes a variety of Asleep on the user, named '''Napping'''. Napping is similar to Asleep, but when the user wakes, all their negative [[Status ailments in Mystery Dungeon|status ailments]] will be gone.

{{m|Nightmare}} in Mystery Dungeon is turned into a move that causes a variation of Asleep, named after itself, although it can override a Pokémon that's already Asleep or Napping. When a Pokémon is inflicted with '''Nightmare''', he or she cannot act for 4 to 7 turns, and takes 8 HP of damage when he or she awakens.

Other sleep aliments include '''{{m|Yawn}}ing''', which causes Asleep after 3 turns, and '''Sleepless''', which prevent the previous four ailments from occurring for 11 to 12 turns. Like in the main games, Sleeping can be cured early using a [[Chesto Berry]].

===In the {{pkmn|anime}}===
[[File:Dawn Ambipom Sleep.png|right|thumb|{{TP|Dawn|Ambipom}} is asleep|200px]]
Sleeping is a status ailment that has been present since the early days of the anime. When used in battle, it often forces the afflicted Pokémon to be [[recall]]ed. Uses of sleep in major episodes and movies include:

* Sleeping was first used in battle in ''[[EP001|Pokémon! I Choose You!]]'' by a Trainer's {{P|Gengar}} in the [[Pokémon League]]. Gengar's {{m|Hypnosis}} put the opponent's {{p|Nidorino}} to sleep, forcing the Nidorino's Trainer to switch.
* In ''[[EP003|Challenge of the Samurai]]'', [[Ash's Butterfree]] used {{m|Sleep Powder}} to calm a swarm of {{p|Beedrill}}. He later tried to use Sleep Powder on [[Misty's Staryu]] in ''[[EP007|The Water Flowers of Cerulean City]]'', but Staryu avoided its effects by diving underwater.
* In ''[[EP027|Hypno's Naptime]]'', the abuse of {{p|Hypno}}'s {{m|Hypnosis}} had been causing the Pokémon of [[HopHopHop Town]] to fall asleep without warning. It put the town's children, as well as {{an|Misty}} under a trance, in which they would run away to a pond and start acting like Pokémon.
* In ''[[EP032|The Ninja Poké-Showdown]]'', [[Koga]]'s Venomoth used Sleep Powder on [[Ash's Pidgeot]]to during their [[Gym]] battle, forcing Ash to switch.
* A {{an|Jigglypuff}} that followed {{Ash}} and {{ashfr}} almost always used {{m|Sing}} whenever it appeared. When it discovered that its "audience" slept through its song, the balloon Pokémon doodled on the sleeping Pokémon, and people, before leaving in a huff. However, its songs have still helped out Ash and the people he has met from time to time. In [[EP045|its debut episode]], its song helped the cranky people of [[Neon Town]] finally fall asleep, after which, they woke up much more agreeable and friendly. In [[EP046|the following episode]], Jigglypuff's song was able to put back to sleep the angry [[Fossil|ancient Pokémon]] that slept there.
* In ''[[EP072|The Ancient Puzzle of Pokémopolis]]'', a {{pkmn2|giant}} {{p|Jigglypuff}} puts giant battling {{p|Alakazam}} and {{p|Gengar}} asleep with Sing.
* In ''[[EP079|Friend and Foe Alike]]'', [[Ritchie]]'s {{p|Butterfree}}, Happy, used Sleep Powder on [[Ash's Squirtle]] during their league battle. Squirtle, already tired from a previous attack by [[Jessie]], [[James]], and {{MTR}}, was declared {{DL|Fainting|In the anime|unable to battle}}.
* In ''[[EP097|Tracey Gets Bugged]]'', [[Tracey's Venonat]] used Sleep Powder to put a wild {{TP|Tracey|Scyther}} asleep so it could be caught an taken to a [[Pokémon Center]].
* In ''[[EP105|Charizard Chills]]'', [[Tad]]'s {{p|Poliwrath}} put [[Ash's Pikachu]] asleep with Hypnosis.
* In ''[[EP129|Ignorance is Blissey]]'', multiple [[Nurse Joy's Chansey]] put various Pokémon (plus Jessie) asleep with Sing at the [[Pokémon Nurse School]].
* In ''[[EP137|Ariados, Amigos]]'', {{an|Aya}}'s {{p|Venonat}} put itself asleep with {{m|Rest}} during a battle with [[Jessie's Arbok]].
* In ''[[EP237|As Cold as Pryce]]'', [[Pryce]] had his {{TP|Pryce|Piloswine}} use Rest to put itself to sleep.
* In ''[[M06|Jirachi: Wish Maker]]'', [[Butler]] used his {{p|Kirlia}}'s Hypnosis to put {{p|Absol}} to sleep.
* In ''[[AG056|Going, Going, Yawn]]'', [[Flannery]]'s {{p|Slugma|Meg}} put [[Ash's Corphish]] asleep with {{m|Yawn}}.
* In ''[[AG057|Going for a Spinda]]'', [[Claire]]'s {{p|Spinda}} put {{TRT}} asleep with Hypnosis.
* In ''[[AG088|The Garden of Eatin']]'', a wild {{p|Snorlax}} used Yawn to put various people and Pokémon asleep, including Ash and his friends, while using Rest to heal itself. This move was finally countered when [[Marcel]] used a {{p|Vigoroth}} against Snorlax. With its {{a|Vital Spirit}} protecting it from sleep, Vigoroth was able to defeat Snorlax, allowing Marcel to catch it.
* In ''[[AG138|Rough, Tough Jigglypuff]]'', a wild Jigglypuff put Ash, his friends, Team Rocket, [[Mitch Mitchum]], and several Pokémon, including Ash's Pikachu, asleep with its Sing.
* In ''[[AG149|Wheel of Frontier]]'', [[Ash's Snorlax]] used Rest and went to sleep while being {{status|freeze|frozen}} by {{FB|Arena Tycoon|Greta}}'s {{p|Medicham}}'s {{m|Ice Punch}}.
* In ''[[AG160|Harley Rides Again]]'', {{an|May}}'s {{TP|May|Munchlax}}'s {{m|Metronome}} landed on Rest during a {{pkmn|Contest}} [[Appeals round]]. She was able to wake Munchlax up by throwing it a [[Pokéblock]].
* In ''[[AG182|Channeling the Battle Zone!]]'', [[Solidad]] used her {{p|Slowbro}}'s Yawn to put [[May's Combusken]] asleep.
* In ''[[AG190|Pace - The Final Frontier!]]'', {{FB|Pyramid King|Brandon}}'s {{TP|Brandon|Regice|Regis}} went to sleep twice by using Rest in order to recover from the damage taken while battling with Ash's Pikachu.
* A wild {{DL|Recurring wild Pokémon in the anime|Hippopotas}}, which appeared in ''[[DP044|Mass Hip-Po-Sis!]]'' and ''[[DP065|Sleight of Sand!]]'', used Yawn several times, putting several characters, including Ash and Jessie, asleep a couple of times.
* In ''[[M10|The Rise of Darkrai]]'', {{OBP|Darkrai|M10}} used its {{m|Dark Void}} in order to warn the people of [[Alamos Town]] about the coming attack of {{mov|Dialga}} and {{mov|Palkia}}. Unfortunately, the {{a|Bad Dreams}} that it caused led [[Baron Alberto]] to see Darkrai as a threat.
* In ''[[DP066|Lost Leader Strategy!]]'', [[Reggie]]'s {{p|Bibarel}} put [[Ash's Turtwig]] to sleep using {{m|Secret Power}}.
* In ''[[DP093|Playing the Leveling Field!]]'', [[Fantina]]'s {{p|Drifloon}}, later {{TP|Fantina|Drifblim}}, used Hypnosis to put [[Ash's Buizel]], {{AP|Chimchar}} and Pikachu asleep during Ash's unofficial battle with her. Pikachu and Buizel got affected by Drifblim's Hypnosis again during Ash's Gym battle with Fantina in ''[[DP102|Shield with a Twist!]]''.
* In ''[[DP095|Battling The Generation Gap!]]'', [[Lila]]'s {{p|Delcatty}} put {{an|Dawn}}'s {{TP|Dawn|Ambipom}} to sleep using Sing.
* In ''[[DP183|League Unleashed!]]'', [[Nando]]'s {{TP|Nando|Kricketune}} used {{m|Sing}} to put [[Ash's Heracross]] to sleep. However, Heracross was able to counter it with {{m|Sleep Talk}}.
* In ''[[M13|Zoroark: Master of Illusions]]'', {{mov|Tammy}}'s {{p|Tangrowth}} used Sleep Powder to put {{OBP|Zorua|M13}} asleep.
* In ''[[DP189|The Semi-Final Frontier!]]'', {{si|Tobias}}'s {{p|Darkrai}} used a combination of Dark Void and {{m|Dream Eater}} against Ash's Heracross, quickly knocking it out. Darkrai also put {{AP|Sceptile}} to sleep, but it managed to wake up just in time to take it out with {{m|Leaf Blade}}.

===In the {{pkmn|manga}}===
[[File:Wally Roselia GrassWhistle Adventures.png|thumb|[[Emerald's Sceptile|Treecko]] sleeping in Pokémon Adventures]]
====[[Pokémon Adventures]]====
In Pokémon Adventures, every move that can induce Pokémon to sleep have caused this status ailment.

====[[The Electric Tale of Pikachu]]====
In ''[[ET02|Play Misty for Me]]'', {{Ash}}'s {{p|Metapod}} evolves into {{AP|Butterfree}} during his Gym battle with {{an|Misty}}. Butterfree uses {{m|Sleep Powder}} to stop Misty's vicious {{TP|Misty|Gyarados}}, which is the decisive move Ash needs to take back his stolen {{AP|hat}} and win the {{badge|Cascade}}.

====[[Phantom Thief Pokémon 7]]====
The titular Phantom Thief, [[Hiori]], uses his {{p|Tangrowth}}'s {{m|Sleep Powder}} to sneak past the {{tc|Galactic Grunt}}s that guard [[Team Galactic]]'s [[Team Galactic HQ|base]]. 

===In the {{pkmn|Trading Card Game}}===
In the Trading Card Game, Sleep, called Asleep, is one of the five [[Special Condition]]s along with Poisoned, Burned, Confused, and Paralyzed. If a Pokémon is Asleep, it cannot attack or retreat by itself. It must also be turned sideways (usually counterclockwise). After each turn, if a player's Pokémon is Asleep, the player must flip a coin: if heads, the Asleep Pokémon "wakes up" and is no longer affected by the Special Condition. However, if the coin lands on tails, the Pokémon is still asleep. Unlike the Pokémon games, a Pokémon can be afflicted with more than one Special Condition at once; however, some special conditions will erase ones already present.

==Trivia==
* Sleep is the status ailment with the most moves that always cause it when they hit.

==References==
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Talk:Poké Ball/Archive 1

2011-12-31T20:29:46Z

ILOVETOGETIC: /* Inconsistency: Premier Ball Location */ new section

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==Fast Ball==
Just wondering where Abra and Phanpy are coming from, as [http://pokefor.greenchu.de/meowth346/gbc/poke-balls/ Pokémon Forever states] "If the wild Pokémon is Magnemite, Grimer, Tangela, Mr.Mime, Eevee, Porygon, Dratini, or Dragonair, then Catch Rate = Catch Rate * 4.0. Please note that while these Pokémon have a greater chance to catch, not all of them can be found in the wild."
[[User:Jshadias|Jshadias]] 09:53, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)

I'm curious, too. I see various sites that say things like "Pokemon who can run away, like Teddiursa, Tangela, or Raikou", but the game stores a list of Pokemon whom the ball works better on, and that's what I used on PokéFor. --[[User:Meowth346|Meowth346]] 21:09, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)

In that case, somebody remove the two offending, untrue Pogeys?

And Abra really shouldn't be on that list, as it uses Teleport; it doesn't actually run away... [[User:Evkl|Evkl]] 21:45, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Teleport counts, though. The quick ball worked on Abra.[[User:Nintendofan146B|Nintendofan146B]] 20:17, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Should Anime-only Balls be included in this? I'm thinking of the Dark Balls and whatever it was that Sammy used from movie 4--BJG

There was the Dark Ball and the GS Ball. That's all there have been. I think they would make a useful addition, though. [[User:Fabu-Vinny|Fabu-Vinny]] 19:22, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

==TCG sections==
Shouldn't the page give hyper links to all of the Poké Balls featured in the cards? [[User:Mr. bell|Mr. Bell]] 08:49, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

== Hyper Ball in manga ==

Do you think it's worth mentioning in the "in the manga" section about the existance of the Hyper Ball? Ash attempts to use it in the EToP manga at the end of issue 4, and is apparently very expensive. [[User:Fsilone|Fsilone]] 02:48, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
:Isn't the Hyper Ball just the Japanese name of the Ultra Ball? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 03:00, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
::...yeah. It is. And it's rather expensive, too... [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 03:03, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

== Happiness Balls ==

Shouldn't there be a note about the increased Happiness rating that Luxury Balls and Friend Balls produce on captured Pokemon? Or is that just a myth that has no bearing on the game data?
:This is a good question, how come it wasn't answered? [[User:Felinoel|Felinoel]] 21:45, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

== Main Picture ==

Is an SSBM trophy really appropriate for the main picture on this article? I think it should be a plain Pokéball without the trophy base at the bottom - [[User:MTC|MTC]]

I think it looks a lot better, just a sharper image if you know what I mean. And it doesn't matter the source, a Poké Ball is a Poké Ball. [[User:Evkl|evkl]] 19:25, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I think the Same as MTC. It could be the picture of a Poké ball that is in the first opening possibly. [[user:David aipom|David aipom]]

As long as the picture illustrates on how the ball looks like in the anime and games (which it does), the it is acceptable. - [[User:Vhayes1992|Vhayes1992]] 18:17, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

== Team Rocket Balls... ==

I clearly remember seeing black balls thrown by the head of Team Rocket in "Mewtwo's Return" feature length episode. Now it's a bit sad since I juest returned the darn video to the rental store and check on this which I saw just moments ago! From my poor memeory I think they were just black pokeballs with the typicial Team Rocket red R instead of red dot.

They were used to capture the running pokemon (Meoth, Pikachu and the cloned pokemons), though Mewtwo used it's psychich powers to release them, making them somewhat uninteresting...

Actually, I think you're thinking of the PokéBalls being thrown by the Team Rocket grunts at the herd of Tauros that Mewtwo was lifting with Psychic.[[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] 02:00, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

== Ball Images ==

The large images are nice, I admit, but perhaps using sprites would make the tables look neater and, by having ones for the Safari, Ultra and Master Balls, more complete? Given time, I could even make modifications of the sprites for the Generation II Balls. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] 20:08, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

== Replacing Images ==

I don't think that the current images for Hoenn Balls and Poke and Great Ball are nice. I think they're ugly imitations of Sugimori Artwork. I have a Sugimori Artworks for almost all PokeBalls (the Johto ones are bad-qualited, though) and I think they're much better. I think we should replace the current images with the Sugimori's ones.
:I dunno, I don't think the current ones look bad at all - just big, given how much they stretch the rows of the table. And how bad quality are you talking for the Johto ones? Call me a sprite fanatic, but I think the third generation item sprites would look best in the tables. The second generation ones would be missing, but, as I said, I could make some custom ones. Also, I'm not particularly fond of the anime Pokéball image, since it's so heavily pixelated... --[[User:Pie|Pie]] 01:36, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
:Actually... now that I think of it, perhaps both of our concerns can be dealt with more easily than I thought. Hold on just a little bit... --[[User:Pie|Pie]] 18:50, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

== One big vs. many small ==
I've been talking with TTE. The idea of breaking some of the meat of this article up still bugs me on some level, but... well, might as well bring the idea to everyone.

The idea, basically, is to start having articles for groups of items as well as individual. This one, for example, would be moved to "Ball", and the lower section would link to the different articles on individual item types. If we do this for this one, we do it for all item groups...

Thoughts? --[[User:Pie|Pie]] ~[[User talk:Pie|♪]][[Special:Contributions/Pie|♫]] 02:58, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
:I think it'd be a good idea. After all, we have separate articles for every berry, why shouldn't we for Poké Balls and held items as well? Then, we could categorize them better, without having a gigantic page (which is what the page on [[held items]] is quickly becoming...).

:C'mon, anyone else? --'''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 21:55, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

::Ooh, just had an idea. How about dividing the page into individual sections for each type of ball, going into detail about its catch rate, where it's able to be purchased, and so on? --'''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 15:59, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

::: Thats a GREAT idea. We could have another template for all the balls. --[[User:Usyflad10|Usyflad]] [[User talk:Usyflad10|10''']] 23:21, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

== Green Pokeball ==

I uploaded this image i took from the first pokemon episode, but i cant get the sizeing right...Someone should take a look and stick it in the Anime section --[[User:Britannia's Blade|Britannia's Blade]] 19:33, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
:Handled. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] ~[[User talk:Pie|♪]][[Special:Contributions/Pie|♫]] 19:53, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

== Dive Ball ==
What is the increase of efficiency for a dive ball when you are capturing a water/bug hybrid?
:That's the Net Ball that raises the multiplier for Water or Bug Pokémon. Dive Ball in Gen III works better on Pokémon underwater, and in Gen IV works better on Pokémon you encounter while Surfing. Anyway, I think it doesn't stack, but I dunno. If it doesn't stack, it's as listed, but if it does, it's 9x. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 00:19, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
:Does the Dive Ball really have an increased effect while Surfing in D/P? [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] 02:00, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
::I Belive it does. It's text says so. I don't know the rate though.

== Sir Aaron's Staff and the passage of time within the ball. ==

Should Sir Aaron's Staff be considered a pre-pokéball object as well? Also, should it be noted about how time passes for pokémon contained within pokéballs? There have been a few instances where pokémon have spent of years, centuries even, within a pokéball/pokéball like object and not aging or feeling any sort of passage of time.

I think so, it is a method of capturing a Pokémon. <big>[[Image:Ani137MS.gif]][[User:Tesh|'''TESH''']][[Image:Ani233MS.gif]][[User Talk:Tesh|'''TALK''']] [[Image:Ani474MS.gif]][[User:Tesh/Other|'''FUN''']]</big> 16:41, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

This is my fist post (or edit, I'm new)
The passage of time seems to vary between pokéball and pokéball like objects, when in pokéballs, pokémon seem to be conscious (as trainers give commands before releasing them) but don't physically age, but in some other pokéball like object, time passes as if there sleeping while there in the object. amaster6000 11:12, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
:There is obviously very little passage of time in Aaron's staff; long enough for Lucario to stew in his rage, but quick enough apparently for him to still be blind. Also remember that most of those centuries-old Pokémon are usually special specimens--often a Psychic-type or something like [[Lokoko]].--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 14:58, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

== Lv 2 wurmple breaks master ball ==

i know the copy is hacked, but how did this happen <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yqw7bL2HK3E&feature=related>
its supposed that a master ball never breaks
:That's a Great Ball. Dur. {{ani|281}}[[User:TinaTheKirlia|Tina]][[User:TinaTheKirlia/Sandbox|☆]][[User:TinaTheKirlia/Favorites|♥]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|♫]][http://freewebs.com/thepixelcafe δ]{{ani|282}} 19:56, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

== Gen IV Park Ball ==
Are the links to the Gen II games really necessary? I know that some people have been using it's resemblance to the GS Ball to support the idea of a Gen IV remake of Gold and Silver, but without an actual statement from Nintendo or Game Freak, should we really make it seem like such speculation is factual? --[[User:Dual|Dual]] 13:25, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
== Hey, look what I found! ==
Hey, I was surfing through Youtube the other day, and look what I found! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAfAKDFPw0o There's a planet in the "Bouy Base Galaxy" in Super Mario Galaxy that looks like a Poké Ball! --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 00:33, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

The videos been removed :( But i found a new link http://youtube.com/watch?v=MweOaEzAesw [[user:David aipom|David aipom]]

== Jelly Donuts? ==
Umm, in the anime section of the article, someone links to a Rice Ball as a Jelly Donut. I don't think it should be referred to as this, regardless of what 4Kids calls it. [[User:Shonen Jump Master|Shonen Jump Master]] 15:45, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

== Ball capsulses ==

Should we mention ball capsules in this article?[[User:Darkmaster0|Darkmaster]][[User talk:Darkmaster0|0]]15:48, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
:Not really, they are not significant to the pokeball at all[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|'''C ''']] [[User talk:Darth Cookie Monster|'''Is''']] [[User:Darth Cookie Monster/My Story|'''for Cookie''']]
::What do you mean they have nothing to do with the Poké Ball? I think they should be mentioned somewhere in the article. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 22:46, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
:::Same here, I think so too. With a (brief) list of the Seals, maybe? [[User:TinaTheKirlia|Tina]][[Special:Contributions/TinaTheKirlia|☆]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|♫]]{{ani|281}} 22:49, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

== "You missed the Pokémon!" ==

I'm not sure where to include this, but it was possible to see ^that message^ when throwing a Pokéball in Generation I. --'''''Posted by''''' [[User:Deadlymethane|'''''Deadly''''']][[User talk:Deadlymethane|'''''methane''''']] '''at''' 21:12, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
:I remember... Stupid Safari Zone... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:21, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
I took the liberty of adding it myself. I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 13:16, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

== Heavy Ball? ==

It says that heavy ball is "+20 +30 -10"
What does that mean? +X to the catch rate? or what?
--[[User:MewUser|MewUser]] 17:16, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
:Heavy Ball added to the catch rate, So a +30 on a catch rate of 3 would make it catch rate 33. [[User:Gywall|Gywall]] 17:24, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
From the information given on the page, Snorlax would be the only Gen II pokemon to get the +30 and the +20 would rare as well e.g. Graveler is only 105Kg and HO-OH is only 199Kg [[User:Tzion|Tzion]] 22:35, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

== the old ball ==

did you put in that old ball from pokemon 4 ever the movie. the picture is at http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/90/Old_Poké_Ball_from_Pokémon_4Ever.png/180px-Old_Poké_Ball_from_Pokémon_4Ever.png {{unsigned|Talvin7111}}
 
We need a better quality picture than that, surely? [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 00:33, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
:The only image I could find was Wiipedia's: [[:Wikipedia:Image:Old Poké Ball from Pokémon 4Ever.png]]. Isn't there a better screenshot? → [[User:C Teng|C Teng]] [[User talk:C Teng|[talk]]] 13:10, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
::I don't know how to replace an existing image so could someone do it for me? [http://img178.yfrog.com/gal.php?g=48637373.jpg Old Poké_Ball] I took these screenshots from the DVD at 16:9. Click on the image for their full size. [[User:Coololz352|Coololz352]] 00:21, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
:::The image needs to be uploaded to the archives, then the image can be replaced. Preferably the image would be retaken as a png, rather than a jpg though, as they are better quality (although with the current image I'm sure it can be overlooked). To upload images, go to the archives (in the side bar) and log in with your Bulbapedia username and password, then upload the image, e.g. to ''Sammy's_Old_Poké_Ball.png'' or something similar. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 06:25, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

== Poké Ball Images ==

The larger images for the "Generation II Poké Balls" are not showing up. It is just showing the name of the images. Is this just me?--[[User:Mjr162006|Mjr162006]] 03:47, 24 August 2008 (UTC) Yeah, I'm new here.
:Never mind.I cant see them either[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|DCM]]

::It looks like the images were either deleted, or never existed in the first place.--[[User:Mjr162006|Mjr162006]] 04:03, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
:::They were there.I remember seeing them.......A MYSTERY![[User:Darth Cookie Monster|DCM]]

::::It is just a wild guess, but could this have anything to do with the recent upgrade to MediaWiki 1.13.0? Sometimes things can accidentally get lost when the wiki software is updated. I know that has happened more than once at Zelda Wiki.org (my main wiki).--[[User:Mjr162006|Mjr162006]] 04:17, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

== Generation II ==

Generation II has no Poké Ball sprites?~[[User:Pokemaniac102|Ποκεμανιακα0β]] 17:21, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
*There were no pokéball sprites. [[User:Phocks|Phocks ~ Come dance with me!]] 09:15, 30 October 2008.

== Origin of the Concept? ==

"In the series, Ultraseven, when unable to fight (usually because his Ultra Eye has been stolen), Dan will often produce a small capsule that releases a giant-sized monster to fight in his place."

Now I'm not sure if this is true or not, but I believe the concept of "Keeping Pokémon inside Pokéballs" originated from Ultraseven. --[[User:Arima|Arima]] 00:52, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
:"Originate" seems to strong a word. Inspired by, possibly. Worth a mention on the page, maybe. State as fact a connection that's at best speculation, unless we hear that Satoshi Tajiri said something in an interview confirming that Ultraseven is where he got the concept...not such a good idea. [[User:Lucentas|Lucentas]] 01:48, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
::GASP! OR MAYBE ITS INSPIRED BY THE TALE OF GENIES! MYSTICAL BEINGS BEING KEPT IN CONTAINERS AND FORCED TO DO BATTLE WITH EACH OTHER.
:::Dont put that nonsense on the page. Their are so many other references its not worth it--[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((Shut the **** up]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]
::::Genies don't even battle. They grant wishes. Besides, that sounds ridiculous.--[[User:Starlight the ampharos|Starlight_the_ampharos]] 21:51, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::Exactly why he said don't put that stuff in there. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 04:13, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

== About the Master Ball... ==
Should we include the locations of the master balls from games? Or is that off-topic. And if yes, where shall we put it? --[[User:Metagross72|Metagross72]] 04:45, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
:Thats a valid point, but no, that would seem like overkill[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]
::I Think that this article should tell about the locations of the Poké Ball kinds, or at least where to buy them because I'm getting agravated from having to run all over Sinnoh just to buy a Dusk Ball. [[User:Dolphin2|Dolphins_are_awesome!]] 16:45, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
:::No. We are an encyclopedia, not a strategy guide.[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]

::::I know! I'll make a page called Locations of Master Balls! I got this idea from [[Locations of TMs]]. I'll do that right now! --[[User:Metagross72|Metagross72]] 23:58, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
::::: That'll get everyone getting Masterballs, But no, we don't need another article which is highly likely to get deleted in less then 0.11111111111111111111 seconds.--[[User:Force Fire|FF]]([[Special:Contributions/Force Fire|edits]]-[[User talk:Force Fire|talk]]) 00:12, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
:Maybe Locations of limited availibilty Poké Balls? [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|¿Nos hablamos?]] 00:16, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
::Such as? [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 04:34, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
:::Reviving something old here, but really. The Master Ball is an important part of the game, just because we list where you can obtain one doesn't make us a "strategy guide", in my opinion it makes us more like an encyclopedia as an encyclopedia tries to have '''all''' the information on something, including the locations of things. Making a new article is taking it a little too far, but if it hasn't been done already (and I skimmed through the article and it seems to not have been done) we should list the locations of the Master Balls. That and a lot of people are probably going to want to know where too find them. [[User:Takoto|~~Takoto]] - [[User_talk:Takoto|サソデイ]] 21:28, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

::::I agree with that. In Kanto it was a gift from the Silph president, Johto I don't know because I never bought the games, Hoenn in the Aqua/Magma hideout in R/S and then Aqua hideout in E, and then Cyrus gives it to you in D/P/Pt. Unless that's only in Pt. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 21:54, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
:::::Elm gives you the Master Ball in GSC. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 22:01, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
::::::And now someone just needs to figure out a neat (as in, tidy) was of adding the information onto the article... I recommend in a table/box kinda thing, I'd do it myself but I'm both busy, and I have no idea how too. xD Sorry I'm not much help. [[User:Takoto|~~Takoto]] - [[User_talk:Takoto|サソデイ]] 22:25, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
:::::::How about this?
{| {{bluetable2|c sortable}} align="center"
|- style="background: #ccf;"
! Generation
! Game(s)
! Location
! Requirements
! Notes
|-
| [[Generation I|I]]
| {{game|Green}}, {{2v|Red|Blue}}, {{game|Yellow}}
| [[Silph Co.]]
| Talk to the president after defeating [[Giovanni]].
|
|-
| [[Generation II|II]]
| {{3v|Gold|Silver|Crystal}}
| [[Professor Elm]]'s laboratory
| Talk to Professor Elm after earning all eight badges.
|
|-
| [[Generation II|II]]
| {{3v|Gold|Silver|Crystal}}
| [[Johto Radio Tower]]
| Match all 5 numbers in the [[Lucky Number Show]].
|
|-
| [[Generation III|III]]
| {{game|Ruby}}
| [[Magma Hideout]], [[Maxie]]'s office
| None
| Entrance is blocked off after battling {{p|Groudon}}.
|-
| [[Generation III|III]]
| {{game|Sapphire}}, {{game|Emerald}}
| [[Aqua Hideout]], [[Archie]]'s office
| None
| Entrance is blocked off after battling {{p|Kyogre}}. (Sapphire only)
|-
| [[Generation III|III]]
| {{3v|Ruby|Sapphire|Emerald}}
| [[Lilycove Department Store]]
| Defeat your rival in front of the store, match all 5 numbers in the lottery.
|
|-
| [[Generation III|III]]
| {{g|Colosseum}}
| [[Agate Village]]
| Recieve incomplete email from [[Eagun]] in [[Realgam Tower]]
| Eagun's email is cut off before it can mention the Master Ball.
|-
| [[Generation III|III]]
| {{g|XD}}
| [[Pokémon HQ Lab]]
| Talk to [[Professor Krane]] before heading to [[Citadark Isle]]
|
|-
| [[Generation III|III]]
| {{2v|FireRed|LeafGreen}}
| [[Silph Co.]]
| Talk to the president after defeating [[Giovanni]]
|
|-
| [[Generation IV|IV]]
| {{3v|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}}
| [[Galactic Veilstone Building]]
| Defeat [[Cyrus]]
|
|-
| [[Generation IV|IV]]
| {{3v|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}}
| [[Jubilife TV]]
| Earn the {{badge|Coal}}, defeat the [[Galactic Grunt]]s near the northern exit of [[Jubilife City]], match all 5 numbers in the lottery.
|
|-

|}

Is this any good? [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] wants YOU! [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch/Bulbapedia Branch|Join the Order of the Glitch!]] [[User talk: Missingno. Master|(my talk page)]] 23:07, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
:Yeah I think that looks pretty good. :D Anyone have any objections? [[User:Takoto|~~Takoto]] - [[User_talk:Takoto|サソデイ]] 23:57, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
::If there are no objections, and I don't think there are any, I'll just go ahead and put this on the page now. [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] wants YOU! [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch/Bulbapedia Branch|Join the Order of the Glitch!]] [[User talk: Missingno. Master|(my talk page)]] 00:41, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
::It doesn't really look like it fits at its current place. Maybe would could make a page exclusive to masterballs as we could do some in the anime stuff and put this table there... we could also add screenshots of where the masterballs are found. Additionally the table isn't quite consistent as it says after battling Kyogre (Sapphire only) it should also say after battling Groudon (Ruby only). Otherwise, everything is great. -[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 00:49, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

:::The (Sapphire only) part is because Sapphire&Emerald have the Aqua hideout. It's only blocked in Sapphire, not Emerald. That's why it's there. As for the chart, if it could be made a bit smaller and collapsible, or at least smaller, then it would be a bit better. And if it can't be made smaller, then collapsible would probably be fine. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 14:26, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
::::Making it collapsible is a better option than making a whole page dedicated too the Master Balls I guess. [[User:Takoto|~~Takoto]] - [[User_talk:Takoto|サソデイ]] 14:33, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

:::::It's way better than a separate page, because then we'd have to make one for every single Poké Ball. The only real significance between it and the others is that it never fails, and there's only one per game unless you get extremely lucky at the lottery. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 14:38, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
::::::Yeah, I mean, I'm actually neutral too the idea of a separate page for the Master Balls, as in my opinion there's kinda important, but meh. [[User:Takoto|~~Takoto]] - [[User_talk:Takoto|サソデイ]] 14:57, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

== Opponent's only keep Pokémon in Poké Balls? ==

"In the games, all opponents keep their Pokémon in Poké Balls. The reason for this is unknown."

Whoever put this up, what is this supposed to mean? If you mean they always keep them in Balls, then it's false, because there are countless trainers in-game that let their Pokémon wander around, and in Colosseum and XD you can even battle them, but they'll go back into their Ball pre-battle.

I interpreted as the type of Ball, since it's true all opponents keep them in Poké Balls, not Ultra Balls or whatever, but since there's contention, I think some real clarification would be nice. [[User:Dragoness|Dragoness]] 04:39, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
:I sure of seen some other ball somewhere, but thats besides the point. I interpreted it as in the case of Ash's Pikachu, not being in the pokeball, but battling in the anime, while the jigglypuff in yellow version and a machop in gold couldnt battle, but you could see the walking around[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]
::Then it's not true that all opponents keep their Pokémon in their Balls. Best example is the Shadow Lugia in XD, who was definitely not kept in a Ball.[[User:Dragoness|Dragoness]] 04:46, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
:::Did an opponent use it? Was it ever "captured" in anyway?[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]
::::Yes, Greevil clearly commanded it to attack and it did, not to mention you had to use a Snag Ball to catch it, not a regular Ball like the wild Pokémon. There are other examples in that game. In Phenac, a Peon is talking to his Absol before you battle him, and he uses the Absol in battle. In Agate Village, there is an old woman standing with a Mightyena and if you choose to battle her, she uses the Mightyena. Eagun also keeps his Pikachu out but still uses it to battle. [[User:Dragoness|Dragoness]] 04:55, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
:Non main game but ok. Im gonna go locate that trainer with the safari zone. Keep it the way you have it[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]] 04:57, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

:: You're all missing the point, I think that who first posted this was trying to say that when you battle another trainer they always send out their Pokémon in normal Poké Balls, you know, because I've never seen an in-game opponent sending out any Pokémon in a, say, Master Ball. However, why is this important, I mean, yeah it's true, but I don't think is something we should see in the article, or is it important? I may be wrong.--[[User:YukitoOoO|YukitoOoO]] 18:03, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

== Apricorn Balls ==

There is what looks to be official images of the Apricorn Balls at this photobucket account [http://s280.photobucket.com/albums/kk200/sexton_06/Weapons/] as well as some better quality images of the Hoenn balls here [http://s113.photobucket.com/albums/n226/Sckar_2006/Animes/Pokemon/Pokebolas/?start=0] There is also better quality images of the [http://media.photobucket.com/image/dusk%20ball/CL4M9/DuskBall.png?o=3] Dusk Ball, [http://s217.photobucket.com/albums/cc32/Marcos98/?action=view&current=heal.jpg] Heal Ball and [http://s265.photobucket.com/albums/ii239/CL4M9/?action=view&current=CherishBall.png] Cherish Ball. Just throwing them out there to see if you want to use them. --[[User:Spriteit|Spriteit]] 13:00, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

== Question about quick ball and timer ball ==

What classes as a turn? Is it every one of YOUR turns, or the total amount of turns in battle?
ie
You use false swipe,
Pokemon uses hyper beam,
Would this be counted by the game as 1 turn or 2? --[[User:Jmvb|Jmvb]] 22:34, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
:one turn.--[[Flash Fire (ability)|freezing]][[Heat Wave (move)|COLD]] ([[user:Cold|page]], [[User talk:Cold|talk]]) 22:35, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

== Dusk Ball ==

Dusk Ball is in effect while in a forest? I mean... do forests like Eterna activate the ''night'' effect of the Dusk Ball? Or is it in effect at night only? '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 20:05, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
:Good question. I know it works everywhere at night and in caves 24/7... But in forests? That's a good question. [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]].....[[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch|IT IS TIME!]] 20:15, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

== 3D Picture ==

Don't you think it would be better to have Ken Sugimori's artwork for the Poké Ball instead of that 3D Picture? It's not really official artwork and looks nothing like the balls in the anime! I think if we used Ken Sugimori's artwork it would give people more of a general idea of what Poké Balls actually look like. Just an idea! [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 12:09, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
:Do you have one? --☆'''[[User:Kevzo8|Ke]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|vz]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|o8]]''' 12:18, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
Why don't you just use the Pokeball pic from the chart down the page. I believe that it's a Sugimori.--[[User:Usyflad10|Usyflad10]] 01:28, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

== Anime Pokeballs ==

Half the anime pokeballs are actully just customized pokeballs painted to look unique, namely the Lake Ball, Chansey ball, Green Pokeball and Rocket Ball. The game series also suggest that custom poke balls exist in this manner; when you deliver Oak's Parcel he states it's a custom ordered Poke Ball. By listeing these under the heading "Customized Pokeballs" we can save some space.--[[User:Lego3400|Lego3400]] 23:49, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

== Rich lady expensive custom ball ==

I remember a episode where a rich lady gets a custom ball from a jewelry store (like you would get a watch.) I can't remember if the woman had a snubull or if it was that female meowth that inspired TR Meowth to learn to talk. [[User:Yami Takashi|Yami]] 21:43, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

:Probably {{TP|Madame Muchmoney|Snubbull}}. It sounds about right. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 21:51, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

::but why is there no mention of these novelty or should i say costume (like fake jewelry) balls? [[User:Yami Takashi|Yami]] 22:34, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

:::No, no no, Hunter Blade. It was Meowzee (spelling?) the Meowth whose Poké Ball had loads off jewelry on it. If my memory serves right. [[User:Takoto|~~Takoto]] - [[User_talk:Takoto|サソデイ]] 23:03, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

:::: I think I'm going just add something about the option of buying custom balls for pets. ^_^;; [[User:Yami Takashi|Yami]] 23:22, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

::::: Added. geez.... I'd Marry a Wobbufet or become a Mormon and marry Jessie and Jessiebelle before Meowzie's owner. Woman had me pulling a Fred G. Sanford.

::::: It seems that the basic outer appearance is the same, just the ball Meowzie's owner bought was diamond studded. [[User:Yami Takashi|Yami]] 00:05, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

== Brock, Ninetales and breaking the ball? ==

In the last part of the mechanics section it says Brock breaks his ball after releasing Ninetales ? that can't be right, his article says noting about a Ninetales being in his procession and i don't remember him having one or breaking a ball [[User:Yami Takashi|Yami]] 00:58, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
:[[EP232]]. Last paragraph of the synopsis. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 01:04, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

:: It needs rewording, it makes it sound like brock was the one who broke the ball. [[User:Yami Takashi|Yami]] 01:17, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

== Green Poké Ball ==

Does Gold's Gold and Silver pic have one, just to mention?--[[User:Pokéboy93|Pokéboy93]] 23:53, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

== TCG ==

Where's the link to the regular Poké Ball card? Nowhere. Off to link it.--'''[[User:Prmatt11|''Mew'']]* [[User talk:Prmatt11|a.k.a.]] [[Special:Contributions/Prmatt11|Prmatt11]]''' was here at 11:39, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

I agree, they really need to put the Pokémon card!--[[User:The Bulb's Master|The Bulb's Master]] 02:06, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

== Timer Ball... ==

Does the Timer Ball increase in...
:a) turns after start
:b) turns after last Poké Ball (from start if none)
:c) turns after last Timer Ball (from start if none)

...? - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Giratina's Embodiment|Giratina's Embodiment]] ([[User talk:Giratina's Embodiment|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Giratina's_Embodiment|contribs]])'' 18:44, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
:After the start of the battle. You can alternatively think of this as 'since the wild Pokémon appeared'. This has been noted in the article. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:15, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

== New Johto ball art ==

YAY

Okay so how soon can we get that in here? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:55, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

== the heavy ball ==

So the heavy ball takes 30 away from the catch rate if the pokemon is under 100kg, what if a pokemon already has a catch rate lower than 30 and is under 100kg? ie the [[lake trio]] and [[cresselia]], would their catch rate be a negative value? Would it be even possible to catch them in a heavy ball? [[User:Jmvb|Jmvb]] 12:10, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

:Well I managed to get Raikou in a heavy ball which, according to this page, would have meant Raikou had a catch rate of -17 because his weight is lower than 451.5 lbs (it's 392.4 lbs). So it either doesn't take any more off the catch rate when it's 3 or I got very very lucky. [[User:Jmvb|Jmvb]] 00:50, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

== safari ball art ==

in the platinum guidebook, there is a picture of safarai ball. why is the picture of the safari ball here fanmade? -[[User:Pokeant|Pokeant]] 09:44, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
:Because no one's uploaded it. Feel free to tidy it up and upload it yourself. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 09:59, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

== HGSS/DPPt? ==

Since the balls in HG and SS are not programmed into DP and Pt, will trading between the two games be possible if using an apricorn ball? I don't know how they'd make that work. [[User:Dexington|Dexington]] 19:35, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
:No one does at this stage. There are plenty of speculations on the Bulbagarden Forums, if you'd like to discuss this further. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 19:58, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
::Has this been explored any further yet?--[[User:Skaisdead|Skaisdead]] 22:38, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
:::Gen II balls become Poké Balls. They cannot be held. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:18, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
::::What happens if they are traded back? Does stay a PokéBall, or does it change back to what they were caught in? This sort of thing should go in the page. (Or was it already?)[[User:Poisson14|Poisson14]] 02:56, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
::::Are you sure? If I try to view a pokemon that was caught in a HGSS-only ball on my pearl cart (via the trade screen), it crashes. Any pokemon in HGSS-only balls also appear as bad eggs in PBR. --[[User:Pyritie|Pyritie]] 11:23, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
:::::HGSS Balls -> plain Poké Balls. Just tested it. I don't have PBR, so I can't test that. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 11:47, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
::::::Hmm, odd... no idea what's causing the problem then. --[[User:Pyritie|Pyritie]] 12:14, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Could be because of a hacking code gone wrong. If you didn't hack, it could be some sort of hardware glitch or someone else might have hacked it (if lent to somebody for some time or bought as a used game). [[User:Turtwig A|Turtwig's]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A-B-Cs]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 00:29, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

==Possibly trivia ==

I have noticed in the anime, NO one throws the ball with their left hand ever (Excluding throwing 2 or more balls at the same time) --[[User:Vhayes1992|Vhayes1992]] 18:12, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

== Other manga? ==

What are Pokeballs like in other manga? I know in D&P Adventures, they're similar to Special's view on Pokeballs. [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 00:24, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

== Fast Ball ==

according to serebii the fast ball works on pokemon with a "high speed" in HGSS instead of pokemon that flee. The rest look the same as GSC. Does anyone know what/can find out what the threshold for the pokemon's speed is for it work. And is based on a pokemon's base stats, it's actual stats, or their nature? http://www.serebii.net/heartgoldsoulsilver/apricorns.shtml [[User:Jmvb|Jmvb]] 16:38, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

== Compé? ==

Why on the Earth is "Compe Ball" spell as "Compé"? That makes no sense. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 13:51, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
:And why is it called Compe or Compé anyway? It's Park Ball. Anyone who played GSC knows that. [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] wants YOU! [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch/Bulbapedia Branch|Join the Order of the Glitch!]] [[User talk: Missingno. Master|(my talk page)]] 16:05, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
::Thing is, that's how it was in GSC. They changed the name of the Park Ball in HGSS to the "Compe Ball" as to avoid confusion with the ball used in Pal Park. I don't see why we can't add some alt-text saying "Park Ball in Generation II", though... →''[[User:Tina|'''T'''inā]]'' [[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|★]] 16:25, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
:::Good idea, Tina. I've done that. And if anyone else is really confused about the naming like I was (although it may seem obvious), it's the '''compe'''tition ball :D —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 07:06, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
: A Poké Ball for the Bug-Catching Compe-tition? --[[User:Phred|Phred]] 01:45, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

== Master Ball locations section ==

Uh...shouldn't we use a new template for the '''List of Master Ball locations in the games''' section of this page?

Since, you know, it looks kinda bland compared to the rest of the lists, which use the new ones...thoughts about this? --[[User:InfinityByZero|InfinityByZero]] 23:05, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

==Master Ball Should Have Own Page==

Maybe it should have it's own page. Because it is way more important than a Poke Ball. Or maybe all the balls should have their own page, the exception being the Gen II balls, which should have a collective page. I could do this with some help. [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch]] 14:35, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
:Nah. The new item template will make it perfect. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:17, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

== Three days ==

I should finish it tomorrow, though.　Major major major edit. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 10:02, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

== The Safari and Park Balls ==

So I'm a bit confused here. In every generation there have been Safari Balls or Park Balls, yet we only have three images for Safari/Park Balls and no mention of their different appearances. There should exist:
Gen. 1: Safari Balls (no sprites exist but should have official artwork);
Gen. 2: Park Balls (GSC);
Gen. 3: Safari Balls (for Emerald and FRLG);
Gen. 4: Park Balls (DPP)*, Safari Balls (DP&P)*, Compé Balls (HGSS)*, plus possibly HGSS Safari Balls. (*We have these.)
I'd personally like to see a note on the page mentioning that there have been several different forms for Safari Ball, with pics if possible. (I seem to remember that Gen. 1 Safari Balls were green with a black "S" on them and that Gen. 3 had spikey orange designs on lime green.)
Also, this might help when looking for refs... and inconsistencies: http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:Safari_ball_issues.jpg
[[User:Norle|Norle]]
:Um... we don't need Gen I ones, because it's stricly game sprites only. I have emerald, but need help getting screenshots. I COULD ALSO PROVE THE CELEBI GLITCH WITH SCREENSHOTS! [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch]] 17:25, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
::Norle has some very good points. Unfortunently this is the Pokémon fandom, where good points are ignored and wild speculation is ripe. These variations on the Safari Balls sound interesting. [[User:Me, Hurray!|Me, Hurray!]] 15:01, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

== Lucian's Comments ==

Well I was playing my Pokemon Platinum game one day and I saw Lucian in the Canalave Library, which surprised me. He told me that Pokemon instinctively curl into a ball to recuperate and that is why they'll be caught by a Pokeball. Unfortunately, I don't have his exact words. This event happened on a Thursday between 5 and 6pm and I had already beaten the Elite Four once. I didn't see anything about what he said on the Pokeball page and I didn't know if anyone else here has gotten to talk to Lucian at the library. It was interesting information but I didn't know if that should be added to the page or not. {{unsigned|Kitty}}
:Lucian appears at the library after beating the E4. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 20:51, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

== Fiore ==

Someone should add the fact that there are no Poke Balls in Fiore. Maybe in Almia, too, but I don't know for sure whether Poke Balls are used there. [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] ([[User_talk:TorchicBlaziken|talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/TorchicBlaziken|edits]]) 15:54, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

== Moon Ball? ==
Does this ball give the multiplier for just Nidorina, Nidorino, Jigglypuff, Clefairy, and Skitty, or to everyone in their respective families? Also, does it even give the multiplier to Skitty?--[[User:Bulbafreak9000|Bulbafreak9000]] 04:30, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
:Skitty evolves with the Moon Stone, so yes. It's not available in the wild, though, so the only way to ''legitimately'' get that bonus is to have a Ditto transform into one. And personally I always wondered if it gave the multiplier to the whole family... Doubt it in Gen II, stuff was primitive then, but in IV, I'd imagine so. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:48, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

== Premier Ball sell price ==
As far as I can tell, Premier Balls sell for 100, not 500. (Checked in my copies of Sapphire and Platinum.) [[User:Glass Coyote|Glass Coyote]] 00:19, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
:I'll change it when it's unprotected. Or an admin might change it. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 04:43, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

== g template ==

We have a few of them floating around on this page. Colosseum and XD under [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pok%C3%A9_Ball#Pok.C3.A9_Ball_accuracy here] and Snap under [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pok%C3%A9_Ball#In_the_games here]. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 19:35, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

:''Those'' G's are supposed to be there. We don't frown upon that template's usage when it's used for the names of video games--in fact, that's the intended purpose of the template. It's the "lazy" usages, those that aren't names of video games, that we frown upon--simply put, anything that read stuff such as <nowiki>{{g|anime}}</nowiki>, <nowiki>{{g|Center}}</nowiki>, <nowiki>{{g|Sunday}}</nowiki>, <nowiki>{{g|Special}}</nowiki> (this was before the big to-Adventures move that happened early November 2009), and the like were bound to get relinked. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 22:45, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

::Oooh, ok. That makes sense, although I'm pretty sure this is the only page that has them still on it. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 05:10, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
:::[[Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:G|Not even close]]. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 12:31, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
::::Well then search was being a butt yesterday. .___. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 19:06, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

==Pikachu==
'''Even Ash's Pikachu, the most prominent Pokémon in the anime which spends all its time outside with Ash, has a plain Poké Ball that differs from others only by the small yellow lightning bolt symbol on it, as seen in Pokémon - I Choose You!.'''

I don't think this is even relevant - and it isn't proven that that Poké Ball is the Poké Ball Ash carries around, since Bulbasaur, Charmander, and Gary's Blastoise left their Poké Balls (which had Japanese writing on them a few times I've seen it, although they may have retconned it because I think I also saw an episode without it) on that podium in Oak's Lab. Also Gary's Blastoise is now held in a regular Poké Ball as seen when he battles Ash at the end of the Master Quest series.

I hope we're allowed to put up YouTube links in talk pages, but just to show you, here is EP001 where in the shot of the glass case opening, it shows on the empty Poké Balls of Bulbasaur, Charmander and Squirtle that there is writing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMNw7cPDYv8

Anyway, my point is that we shouldn't take it for face value that Ash uses that lightning-bolt marked Poké Ball, and also to ask if someone who is able can delete that comment in the beginning of the Anime section. Thank you! :D [[User:Lucadan|'''''Lucadan''''']] [[User talk:Lucadan|'''''(Talk)''''']] 21:23, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

== New data from DFC ==

Apparently a user from the [http://www.dragonflycave.com/pokesite.aspx Cave of Dragonflies] hacked into the assembly data and decoded it (?? I don't know how that works, but whatever) and found that the actual [http://www.dragonflycave.com/capture.aspx catch rates] for some Balls (Dusk, Quick, Nest, Timer) are different to what the fandom has been parroting around. I've updated Dusk and Quick to match, but I've no idea how to fix the Nest and Timer catch rates. [[User:Frugali|Frugali]] 02:57, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

:Updated HG/SS Apricorn ball data has also been added there and I have edited the page to match; however, some sort of consensus must be reached on how to show the Nest and Timer Ball catch rates before they can be corrected, since they clearly can't be done the current way. --[[User:Dragonfree|Dragonfree]] 06:28, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

::The timer ball catch rates are correct according to the website, "int(number of turns passed in battle + 10) / 10, maximum 4", using this you get the same catch rates described in this article when you mess about with number of turns in battle. Bear in mind "int" takes off the stuff after the decimal point from the number. So for example after 27 turns the calculation is int(27+10)/10 = 3.7 - take the point .7 and you're left with 3 - Just as the article says, you can try with other amounts of turns and it doesn't contradict what the article says.
::The nest ball is a bit of a problem though, "int(40 - Pokémon's level) / 10", the article says for pokemon under 19 it's x3 - but (40-19)/10 = 2.1 - int(2.1) is 2... The article also says that between and 20 29 it's x2, but int((40-25)/10) =1 This would imply that when the level is 10 and under it's x3, between 11 and 20 x2, and 21 and over x1 [[User:Jmvb|Jmvb]] 01:17, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
:::No; it can take on decimal values. Note that the division by 10 is not inside the parentheses. (...which means the int() is actually redundant since what's inside the parentheses is always an integer anyway; it was just a leftover from the old formulas and I just removed it.)

== Love Ball and non/neutral-gender pokemon? ==

so apparently [[Mew]] learns [[Attract]] at some level and it only works on other non-gender pokemon, would the same kind of thing apply where you have a non-gender pokemon out and use a love ball on another non-gender pokemon? --[[User:Shadofrak|Shadofrak]] 00:47, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
:Mew can learn attract by TM45. It always fails. Now use the link templates. {{p|Mew}}, {{m|Attract}}. As for Love Balls, 1× catch rate. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:50, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
::This trivia suggests otherwise, so one of us (as in Bulbapedia members) is wrong. "Mew is the only genderless Pokémon able to learn Attract and Captivate; however, when used by Mew, they will fail ''unless'' the opposing Pokémon is also genderless."

== Variants in Electric Tale/Dengeki Pikachu ==

Though the article claims that there are no ball variants in this series, two of then have been seen (one original to the series, and one based on the games) in the chapter when Ash/Satoshi fought the Haunter to avenge Sabrina who fell victim to it:

The first one shown is the giant Poké Ball intended to capture the giant Haunter, first suggested by Ash (along the lines of "It's a giant Pokémon, right? So we need a giant Poké Ball to capture it!"). In the same chapter, he attempted to capture the weakened Haunter using a Hyper (Ultra) Ball, only to lose it when the Haunter self-destructed before the ball hit it. [[User:HechEff|HechEff]] 15:27, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

==Net Ball x6 on wild Surskit?==
Bringing up the topic of Net Ball, which works 3x on Water and Bug types, and Surskit fits such description... [[User:Dry Bones|DB]] 21:52, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
:If anything, it would be x9, as it would be x1, then x3, and multiplying that again with 3, is x9. [[User:Turtwig A|Turtwig's]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A-B-Cs]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 22:32, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
::No. It only does x3. Like the Dusk Ball triggers its higher catch rate if used in a cave OR at night, the Net Ball triggers if used on a Bug type OR a Water type. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 07:04, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

== Green Poke Ball ==

In the first episode, in the tournament, a trainer sends out an Onix in a green Poke Ball. Should I add that? {{unsigned|LoadOfMentos}}
:I could've sworn that was already in the article... anyways, yeah, go for it. Add it to the "in the anime" section. --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 15:40, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
::At one point in time I am sure it was already in there, it is my fav one. [[User:Felinoel|felinoel]] 21:55, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

== Gen II balls in Gen V? ==
Wait a minute... why is the only way to get gen II balls in gen V through hacking? Why not trading? [[User:Felinoel|felinoel]] 21:55, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
:Because 1. Pokemon can't hold items when transfered from Gen IV to Gen V, and 2. The Gen II balls can't be held, to prevent trading to DPP – [[Water (type)|Water]][[Hydro Cannon (move)|User]] ([[user:WaterUser|page]], [[User talk:WaterUser|talk]]) 22:34, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
::Ah I see, k thanks, can't wait til April when I can get it [[User:Felinoel|felinoel]] 01:54, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

== Mistake in the Trivia section ==

In the trivia section it says that in all other languages the names of the poké balls are always related to the term "ball", but it's not true: in italian, infact, even though the name of the item in the videogames is poké ball, they're also called "sfere poké" (poké spheres). This second name is so widespread that it is used even in the opening theme of the first season's anime. Since I'm not an expert in the site's guidelines, I didn't change the section because I'm not sure whether or not this can be added to the page. Can anybody who is a little bit more experienced than me do this correction, if it's a proper one??? --[[User:Melograno|Melograno]] 14:15, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
:You are welcome to remove any information that is factually incorrect :) I've got this one. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 18:47, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
::So is it that there are just two interchangeable names, or is there a distinction between the individual item and the group of items? --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 07:05, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

== Premier Ball ==

Just asking; is there really any point to the premier ball other than to remember an event of some sort? - [[User:PikaThunder|PikaThunder]] • [[User Talk:PikaThunder|PT's Talk]] - 21:51, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
:It looks different than a regular Poké Ball. That's it. Players can use it for whatever they want. For instance, on my HeartGold Version, I tried to catch all event Pokémon (for example, Sudowoodo and Shiny Gyarados) in Premier Balls. So the point of them is whatever you make of it. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 01:26, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
::Oh, okay. Thanks! - [[User:PikaThunder|PikaThunder]] • [[User Talk:PikaThunder|PT's Talk]] - 10:25, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

== Sport Ball ==

Click the show button on the Sport Ball section and you'll know what I mean. — [[File:Ani644MS.png]][[User:Zekasaur|Ze]][[User talk:Zekasaur|kas]][[Special:Contributions/Zekasaur|aur]][[File:Ani001MS.png]] 06:14, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
:I see nothing? Could you elaborate? [[User:Felinoel|felinoel]] 11:49, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
::Yeah, there is nothing wrong. Or is it your computer maybe? - [[User:PikaThunder|PikaThunder]] • [[User Talk:PikaThunder|PT's Talk]] - 22:02, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

== BLUE pokeball ==

I've seen Ethan's Gold and Silver artwork and, surprise, he has a blue pokeball in his belt. Worth noting? --[[User:EzekielMaple|EzekielMaple]] 21:36, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
:You mean it is blue like the green ball or is it like one of the several blue pokeballs like the great ball? [[User:Felinoel|felinoel]] 23:16, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
::I looked at the image in question, and it does indeed look like a regular Poké Ball, just with a blue top half instead of red. Great Balls have those red stripes on them. Might be worth adding, but I don't think I'll add it just yet, in case any admins happen to have differing opinions to mine. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 23:29, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
:::I only used the great ball as an example? You should add it since the green ball from the first thirty seconds of the anime is added. [[User:Felinoel|felinoel]] 23:57, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
::::I found another! In the ruins of alph artwork, also from gen ii--[[User:EzekielMaple|EzekielMaple]] 01:03, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
:::::Did you upload a picture or could you be a bit more specific? [[User:Felinoel|felinoel]] 10:29, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

== Apricorn Balls ==

If you send a Pokémon to Black and White from Johto that's been caught in an Apricorn Ball, will the Ball show on the Pokémon's..."stat page" and when u send it out? or will it become a Normal Poké Ball?--[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] 07:48, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
:I can't remember for the stats section but, it does retain its ball when a Pokémon is sent out for battle. --[[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''☆''']][[User:CoolPikachu!|'''Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''Pikachu!''']] 08:30, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
::hallelujah--[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] 08:33, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

== Park Ball ==
Should we say something about the Park Ball's sprite [[File:Bag_Park_Ball_Sprite.png]] differing from its artwork ?--[[User:WenGobou|WenGobou]] 19:03, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

Just found this on Poképedia- does it mean that the archives' sprite is of the wrong animation frame ?
http://www.pokepedia.fr/images/a/ad/Miniat_park_ball_dp.png
--[[User:WenGobou|WenGobou]] 21:41, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

:What are you talking about? Can you link to the differing image? [[User:Felinoel|felinoel]] 22:40, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
:Sprite trivia isn't allowed on bulbapedia anyway. You can ask an admin though. [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 22:44, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

'Kay, I'll also make a little comparison: artwork(bottom-right Ball)[[File:Allballs2.png‎]];

Bulbapedia sprite:[[File:Bag_Park_Ball_Sprite.png]]; other Bulbapedia sprite:[[File:BallPalParkstatus.png‎]]; Poképédia sprite:http://www.pokepedia.fr/images/a/ad/Miniat_park_ball_dp.png.
So, can we upload Poképédia's sprite then ?
::Which one is correct? I think the sprite is the correct one though? [[User:Felinoel|felinoel]] 23:42, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
:::I have noticed that image. In fact, my HGSS guide (the official one) uses that sprite. It looks twisted, but none of those other images look right. --[[User:Nathan2055|Nathan2055]][[User Talk:Nathan2055|talk]] 19:03, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
::::Yeah, I believe the current one comes from data in HGSS. The small one is fanmade and that Poképédia one seems to have been taken from a screenshot of one being used. Also, I think the sprite trivia policy only applies to Pokémon. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 14:23, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
:::::To be honest, the Poképédia one looks fanmade as well. --[[User:Nathan2055|Nathan2055]][[User Talk:Nathan2055|talk]] 17:26, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
:::::: what about the dark ball used by that masked team rocket member in 'pokemon 4 ever' {{unsigned|Yoster10 }}
:::::::It doesn't have artwork because it is not in the games. See the [[Poké Ball#In the anime 2|Other varients section]]. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 04:03, 29 October 2011 (UTC)

== Archive ==

Can we archive this page? It's getting really long, about 65 kilobytes. [[User:Gliscorguy54|Gliscorguy54]] 23:01, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
:Ha, was just thinking this, yea what is the process done here with archiving? This page really needs it [[User:Felinoel|felinoel]] 23:43, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
::Do you mean the talk page or the article? --[[User:Nathan2055|Nathan2055]][[User Talk:Nathan2055|talk]] 20:02, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
:::By this page I am moderately sure Glisc meant the talk page [[User:Felinoel|felinoel]] 04:20, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

== Generation III and IV ball locations in Unova ==

In the "Types of Poké Balls" section, there is data on the location of the Generation I balls and Generation V ball in Unova, but no data on the locations of Generation III and IV balls. I don't have the games yet, but I've seen videos showing they are available. Could someone add them? --[[User:Nathan2055|Nathan2055]][[User Talk:Nathan2055|talk]] 19:10, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
:From what I have heard they are not available, but pokemon transferred from previous gens in those pokeballs stay in them which is possibly what you saw [[User:Felinoel|felinoel]] 04:20, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
::I saw someone in a video ([http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=iv&v=aEfpTPthbMw&annotation_id=annotation_944881 here]) use a Timer Ball. Also, in Castelia City, I'm not sure how (I didn't buy a Japanese copy), but Timer Balls and Quick Balls are certainly obtainable.
:::When linking a video that long and boring please tell us when what you are referencing happens... [[User:Felinoel|felinoel]] 21:32, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
::::He uses one against Zekrom. Items can't be transferred, to Gen. V and I can see on here that there are Timer Balls and Quick Balls obtainable in [[Castelia City]] --[[User:Nathan2055|Nathan2055]][[User Talk:Nathan2055|talk]] 17:46, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
:::::So those two balls are available but not the rest is what you are saying? [[User:Felinoel|felinoel]] 03:44, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
::::::No. I'm almost certain that they brought back all of the Generation III and IV Poké Balls. --[[User:Nathan2055|Nathan2055]][[User Talk:Nathan2055|talk]] 19:22, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
::::::I just noticed that there is a Dive Ball on the ground in [[Underground Waterway Opening]]. This proves that they are accessible but we need to know what Poké Marts they can be found at. --[[User:Nathan2055|Nathan2055]][[User Talk:Nathan2055|talk]] 19:55, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
:::::::All the balls except Apricorn Balls, Sport Balls, Park Balls and Safari Balls can be obtained. We just don't have the locations yet. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 14:23, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
::::::::The Dive Balls can be bought in Undella Town in Gen. 5 ($1000) from the Poke Mart bottom clerk. {{unsigned|Legendseeker}}

== Generation II balls in Diamond Pearl and platinum ==

I looked every where for information about the Johto balls appearing in dpp, so I tested it and added this information under the pokeballs introduced in gen II

"They cannot be traded to Pokémon Diamond, Pearl, and Platinum as they cannot be held by Pokémon. Also, if a Pokémon is caught in any of these balls and traded to Pokémon Diamond, Pearl, and Platinum they will appear to be caught in a regular Pokéball. They will retain there original ball if traded back to Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver."

Can someone test and see if pokemon that were caught in johto balls on dpp can be migrated to gen V and retain there original ball?
(I hope Im doing this right, this is my first time trying to edit this page and the talk page.) [[User:Metafruit|metafruit]] 05:44, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

== Any pokeball 100% capture rate in Entree Forest ==

Can someone confirm that you can use any pokeball to capture Dream World pokemon. I've tried it a few times (SR) and my balls have not failed but I could have just gotten very lucky... It seems odd that they'd program the dream ball in yet allow you to use any pokeball, maybe it wasn't originally their intention to do it like this. The only advantage the dream ball gives you is that you don't have to buy extra balls to capture dream world pokemon [[User:Jmvb|Jmvb]] 23:50, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
:To answer your comment about why Dream Balls exist, I think the Dream Ball is for if you go into a battle with a dream Pokémon without any Poké Balls. But if you do have Poké Balls, then by all means use them. That's just my thought, and it seems logical enough. [[Typhlosion|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon|★]] [[User_talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]] 23:55, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

== Dive Balls in Unova? ==

Exactly how do Dive Balls work in [[Generation V]]? The current description says "underwater", but the only diveable location in Unova is the [[Abyssal Ruins]], which contains no [[wild Pokémon]]. --''[[User:Stratelier|Stratelier]] 18:16, 15 April 2011 (UTC)''
:While the page says it only works underwater, that makes no since. My guess is that it works the same way as in [[Generation IV]]. Someone else might know more though. --[[User:Nathan2055|Nathan2055]][[User Talk:Nathan2055|talk]] 19:12, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
It says underwater as in pokemon that live in the water so pretty much most water pokemon.[[User:ZMT123|ZMT123]] 14:20, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

==Cherish Balls==
I was wondering, how can we know the cherish ball sells for 500 Pokedollers when you can't ever have it in any other way besides having an event Pokemon in it? You can't sell it with a Pokemon in it, and can't swap a Pokemon out into a different ball as far as I know... --[[User:Spongeenthusiast|Spongeenthusiast]] 15:05, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
:Most likely from examining the game code itself. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 15:25, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

== Dream Ball ==

I brought a Sunkern from the Dream World to the Entralink place, and I caught it with a Luxury Ball. I also noticed that it did not know Earth Power, like it was supposed to. Does the Dream Ball have anything to do with the moves that a Pokémon from the Dream World knows? --[[User:Fimbulwinter2012|☆'''FiMbUlWiNtEr2O|2'''☆]] 21:37, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
:That Sunkern obviously wasn't supposed to know Earth Power, period. When you befriend Pokémon in the Dream World, pay attention, because after you complete the minigame, it displays its gender, and the special attack it comes with, or a regular level-up move if it doesn't come with any special attacks. Not all Dream World Sunkern know Earth Power. The Dream Ball has nothing to do with it. I caught my Dream World Tangela in a Heal Ball today by accident, and it still knew Leech Seed. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 22:37, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

== Should something be said in the article about the anime (Unova)and the balls sealing themselves? ==
I just watched the dubbed episode where Ash caught Sewaddle. The pokeball sealed itself and the button on the ball stayed red instead of going white. Cilan then told Ash that he had to go to a pokemon center to switch out a pokemon if he wanted Sewaddle on his team. Should this be mentioned in the article?--[[User:Pokemon26|Pokemon26]] 17:18, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
:I agree. I think something should be said in the article about how, in the anime, as opposed to how it used to be (Poké Ball automatically transported to the Professor, as seen when {{Ash}} captured {{AP|Krabby}} in the Original Series) that the Poké Balls now seal themselves, making the Pokémon inside them unusable until the Trainer visits a Pokémon Center and swaps out Pokémon in storage with the Professor. This has been seen [[Ash's Swadloon|multiple]] [[Ash's Palpitoad|times]] [[Ash's Roggenrola|already]] in the Black and White/Best Wishes series of the anime, and since Ash shows no signs of slowing down his rate of catching Pokémon, I think that this is important, and should be mentioned.--[[User:Jediknightdtv|ジェダイの騎士]][[User talk:Jediknightdtv|デジタルテレビ]] 18:52, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

== Park Ball in Gen V ==

''The Safari Ball has a catching animation programmed into Black and White despite not being legitimately able to be used, as there is no Safari Zone. ''

What about the Park Ball? '''X'''[[User:Vuvuzela2010|'''Vuvuzela2010''']]'''X''' 23:41, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

== Poke Ball Accuracy ==

There is a point in that section stating that "Pokemon until Platinum could be caught in a semi vulnerable state...", then the point below it says that "it is likely due to the fact that, traditionally when a Pokemon is caught, the battle ends..."

It doesn't make sense to me. Isn't it because the Pokemon is out of sight and you can't aim?[[User:Blitzamirin|Blitzamirin]] 14:13, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

== Fast Ball ==

The description on the catch rate has a link to a page listing pokemon with a base speed stat greater than 100, but since it is described as having a "4× if used on a Pokémon with a base Speed of at least 100." The page should include pokemon with a base speed stat of greater than or equal to 100 such as zapdos, or pokemon with a base speed stat greater than 99.
--[[User:Xhainingx|Xhainingx]] 18:35, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

== Dark Ball ==
Can someone please add the Dark Ball in the anime part of the article. I would but I don't know much about it. [[User:ZMT123|ZMT123]] 01:38, 4 August 2011 (UTC)
:[[Poké_Ball#In_the_anime_2|It's already there]]. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 01:44, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Oh. I did'nt see it. Thanks. [[User:ZMT123|ZMT123]] 02:13, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

== Cherish Balls ==

you use the action replay pokeball cheat and then you can use the Cherish Balls to capture pokemon--Rise My Yanmegas 00:31, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
:Is this a fancy way of saying "Why did you revert my edit?" [[User:Truthseeker4449|Truth]][[User talk:Truthseeker4449|seeker]][[Special:Contributions/Truthseeker4449|4449]] 00:51, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
kind of yes, kind of no but i fully understand you reedited it "no Cheating allowed on this wiki"--Rise My Yanmegas 00:58, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
:Thats not why I removed it. I removed it because you put it in the wrong spot. After your edit the setence didn't make sense anymore. [[User:Truthseeker4449|Truth]][[User talk:Truthseeker4449|seeker]][[Special:Contributions/Truthseeker4449|4449]] 01:04, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
O.K sorry--Rise My Yanmegas 01:16, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

== Formatting Issues ==

In Chrome (haven't checked any other browsers), it seems as though the version tags ({{sup|HGSS}} and the like) mess with the height of the line they're on; for example, in the Level Ball '''Secondary effect''' area, "held" is lower than the "Cannot be" that precedes it. [[User:Hezekiah|Hezekiah]] 00:10, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

== Quick Ball and Wandering Legends ==

Does a quick ball continually work every time these things start a fight, or does it only count in the VERY FIRST fight? I cant tell at this point, and it seems something really important to make clear on the page! [[User:PowerPlantRaichu|PowerPlantRaichu]] 12:55, 22 October 2011 (UTC)
:It's obvious they work fully in every encounter, just like those roaming Pokémon lose all {{DL|Status ailment|volatile status}}es after they flee.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|電禅]][[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|Den Zen]]''' 13:00, 22 October 2011 (UTC)

== Capturing two Pokemon in one ball ==
I've noticed that Pokemon that consist of more than one organism, but are technically one Pokemon in terms of gameplay and mechanics, can still be captured in a Pokeball. Examples I'm thinking of are Kangaskhan (mother creature and baby, not physically linked in terms of biology), Dugtrio (three creatures without any visible physical link), etc. I'm sure there are others but I can't think of them at this time. So would this suggest that a Pokeball can contain and sustain more than one occupant? [[User:Soma K.|Soma K.]] 13:26, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
:You're not putting two '''''separate Pokémon''''' in one Poké Ball. Even though they do have other parts of them that seem to be more than one, it's still only one Pokémon. Actually, though, I'm only thinking of that with Kangaskhan--I have no idea about Dugtrio. Maybe they're attached under the ground. --[[User:YoshisWorld|'''☆ヨッシ''']] [[Special:Contributions/YoshisWorld|'''ー''']] [[User talk:YoshisWorld|'''の世界☆''']] 13:34, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
I see where you're coming from. It's just something that could be considered. [[User:Soma K.|Soma K.]] 13:46, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
:That would apply to all of [[User:Taromon777/Multiple entity Pokémon|these]]. To be fair, we don't know what is under Dugtrio, so we can't assume they aren't connected (if you go with th 3D games and Seismic Toss, it is just the dirt that you see, so they would be connected). The idea is that things like Kangaskhan are treated as a single Pokémon. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 13:56, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

== Inconsistency: Premier Ball Location ==

At [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Poké_Ball#Premier_Ball this point] it claims that Premier Balls can be obtained at the Pokémon News Press, but [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_News_Press#News_reporter over here] it lists Premier Balls as one of the five types of Balls that are not available there. I'm confused now as to which is right, so could someone who knows for sure fix it?
[[User:ILOVETOGETIC|I♥Togetic]] 20:29, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

Talk:Substitute (move)

2011-06-08T03:45:13Z

ILOVETOGETIC: /* Pokemon Stadium's Substitute */ new section

should we get sprites for the decoy pokemon? '''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|ff8000|Lord}} of {{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|ff8000|Ori}}{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|ff8000|gami}}''' 11:44, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

I say so. Definitely--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 11:55, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Yeah! We need sprites of Substitute from all Generations from back and front. Is it possible? --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 12:05, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

It is possible for that to be possible!--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 12:08, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Is it? I can't even find sprites of the Substitute from Diamond/Pearl... It'd be cool if you could do it up with the template for the Pokémon Sprites. --[[User:Phred|Phred]] 06:31, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
:It should be in the games' data... the question is... hrm. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:40, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
::You mean this?
::'''Generation I and II:'''
::[[Image:SubstituteG12f.png]][[Image:SubstituteG12b.png]]
::'''Generation III:'''
::[[Image:SubstituteG3f.png]][[Image:SubstituteG3b.png]]
::'''Generation IV:'''
::[[Image:SubstituteG4f.png]][[Image:SubstituteG4b.png]] '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 21:53, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
:::Holy shit, that's it in Gen I? In battle!? WHAT. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:15, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

== With Kecleon ==

Well, since it has Color Change... when something hits it, does it change its type? I'd assume not... but... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:13, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
:Not in Generation IV, haha too lazy to check III

== Outdated information ==

The information in this article is either wrong or from the first generation of Pokémon. Substitute, for instance, WILL protect against sleep moves such as Hypnosis, and a Pokémon using Explosion against a substitute WILL faint. This article needs a full revamp. --[[User:Kefkafreak|Kefkafreak]] 22:05, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

== By breeding ==

This doesn't apply to the Substitute page itself, but to quite a number of Pokémon pages that list Substitute as an egg move. For example, see [[Furret (Pokémon)#By breeding]]. While Substitute can be bred, in Generation IV, this is simply because it is a TM. In Generation III, it was an egg move, and I suspect it has been carried over in many of the breeding move lists for Pokémon. I don't think it belongs in the primary 'by breeding' for Pokémon, though. In the Generation III breeding moves for sure, but not the Generation IV ones. Are there any reasons to keep Substitute in the breeding move lists on main Pokémon pages? — [[User:Laoris|Laoris]] ([[User_Talk:Laoris|Blah]]) 16:45, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

:Because it's programmed that way into the game coding. Just because a move can be taught through a TM doesn't mean it can't be programmed into a breeding list. Another example is {{p|Remoraid}} and {{m|Thunder Wave}}, where Thunder Wave is still on Remoraid's breeding list despite Thunder Wave becoming [[TM73]] in [[Generation IV]] and Remoraid being compatible with said TM. If the game code says it, we list it. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 19:08, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

== '''''Two''''' moves named 'Substitute' in Japanese??? ==
Wha--??? Both {{m|Substitute}} and {{m|Switcheroo}} are called 'Substitute' in Japanese??? --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User Talk:Theryguy512|512]]''' 22:07, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
:If you'll notice the kanji, they're spelled different. It just translates the same. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:42, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
::I went ahead and changed both translations, to avoid confusion.—[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 06:20, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
:::Thanks! --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User Talk:Theryguy512|512]]''' 11:06, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

== Gen III ==

Al that know TMs can learn it, right? Or are there specifics that also can't? [[User:Ht14|''ht'']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 03:49, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
:Beldum can't. That's all I noticed.[[User:Alec9|''alec'''9''''']] [[Special:Contributions/Alec9|*]] [[User talk:Alec9|-]] [[Gallade (Pokémon)|*]] 02:02, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
:: -_- Beldum cannot learn TMs... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 02:06, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

== how to get the TM ==

sorry about asking such a simple question, but where to you get the TM?
:As a general rule, for directions on where to find a TM, you should go to the page for that TM (it's actually a separate page from the page for the move itself, since some TMs change their moves between generations; that threw me off for a while also). If a move can be learned by TM, there will be a link to that TM's page in the article, and that will list locations for that TM in each game it's available in. (Also, on talk pages, sign your messages with four tilde's (~), and you'll get a nice little name tag/time stamp just like this.) [[User:HerbieHero|HerbieHero]] 03:59, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

== BW ==

Substitute doll sprite from BW, anyone? --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 15:33, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

== Mr. Mime ==

Wouldn't it be fair to say that Substitute was the signature move of Mr. Mime in Generation 1 and 2? Considering it was the only pokemon to learn it apart from event? [[User:Buizel1991|Buizel1991]] 13:49, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

== Breaking the Substitute ==

I'm surprised this wasn't on the page, but is there some sort of system that decides how much damage a substitute can take before it breaks? --[[User:Fimbulwinter2012|☆'''FiMbUlWiNtEr2O|2'''☆]] 23:40, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
:It does say, under Generation I: The substitute has the amount of HP the user of the move sacrificed to create it, plus one additional hit point. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] [[User talk:AndyPKMN|(talk)]] 01:42, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

== Pokemon Stadium's Substitute ==

I was just playing the original Pokémon Stadium, and something strange happened... I had had my Rhyhorn use Substitute while battling the opponent's last Pokémon; a Sandshrew that was Poisoned. The battle ended when Sandshrew took Poison damage after his attack and before mine on that turn. What's weird is that when it zoomed in on my side of the field to declare my victory, the Substitute was still showing - for a moment - then it disappeared and my Rhyhorn didn't come back. Should this be mentioned (either in the section on its effects in Stadium/Generation I or under trivia)?

Also, it seems there isn't a sprite here for Substitute in Pokémon Stadium... unless it's the same as it is in Pokémon Stadium 2, in which case it should say that, right?
[[User:ILOVETOGETIC|I♥Togetic]] 03:45, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

Cover Fossil

2011-04-24T04:11:01Z

ILOVETOGETIC: /* Intro */ the description of the Cover Fossil was labeled as Plume. error fixed.

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[[File:Bag Plume Fossil Sprite.png|frame]]
The '''Cover Fossil''' (Japanese: '''ふたのカセキ''' ''Lid Fossil'') and '''Plume Fossil''' (Japanese: '''はねのカセキ''' ''Wing Fossil'') are [[fossil]]s from the [[Generation V]] games, {{game|Black and White|s}}.

Like Generations I and III, the player can once again choose which fossil they want to get in each game. The fossils are found in [[Relic Castle]], where they will be offered by one of the {{tc|Backpacker}}s in the first floor of the ruins. One can be chosen, and the other will be kept by the Backpacker.

The fossils can be revived with the Pokémon being at level 25 by being given to one of the receptionists in the [[Nacrene City]] Museum. The Cover Fossil is able to be regenerated into {{p|Tirtouga}} and the Plume Fossil is able to be regenerated into {{p|Archen}}.

The item description for the Plume Fossil states "A fossil of an ancient Pokémon that flew in the sky in ancient times. It appears to be part of its wing." The backpacker who gives the fossils mentions that the Plume Fossil is of a Pokémon that lived in an ancient forest, but it couldn't fly.

The item description for the Cover Fossil states "A fossil of an ancient Pokémon that freely swam the seas!"
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{{Project ItemDex notice}}

[[Category:Fossils]]
[[Category:Items]]

List of alternately colored Pokémon in animation

2011-02-26T09:36:23Z

ILOVETOGETIC: fixed a couple of grammatical errors

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Even before the games, '''alternately colored Pokémon''' have made occasional appearances in the {{pkmn|anime}}, with a [[pink Butterfree]] being one of the first to appear in ''[[EP021|Bye Bye Butterfree]]''. Many alternately colored Pokémon appear in the [[Orange Archipelago]] due to the tropical climate. [[Shiny Pokémon]] began to make appearances in the anime during the Johto saga after {{2v2|Gold|Silver}} were released. What follows is a chronological list of alternately colored Pokémon that have appeared in the anime.

==List of Pokémon==
===Non-standard alternate coloration===
{{TrainerPoké
|main=yes
|pkmn=Butterfree
|nick=Pink Butterfree
|gender=female
|type1=Bug
|type2=Flying
|img=Pink Butterfree.png
|epnum=EP021
|epname=Bye Bye Butterfree
|desc={{p|Butterfree}} made her appearance in ''[[EP021|Bye Bye Butterfree]]''. {{Ash}}'s {{AP|Butterfree}} fell in love and attempted to woo her with a courtship dance. Despite this, the pink Butterfree was not impressed by his attempts and rejected him. She eventually changed her mind when Ash's Butterfree saved her from [[Team Rocket]], choosing him to be her mate.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|nick=Squirtletwo, Bulbasaurtwo, and Charmandertwo
|type1=Kanto
|img=Kanto Starter Clones.png
|epnum=The Birth of Mewtwo
|epname=The Birth of Mewtwo
|desc={{p|Squirtle}}two, {{p|Bulbasaur}}two, and {{p|Charmander}}two are three of the original cloning attempts made by [[Dr. Fuji]], along with {{an|Amber}}two and {{an|Mewtwo}}. They have blue, dark taupe, and crimson colored birth markings respectively, possibly defects due to their origin.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Mewtwo
|pkmn=Venusaurtwo
|type1=Grass
|type2=Poison
|img=Venusaur Clone.png
|epnum=M01
|epname=Mewtwo Strikes Back
|desc=Venusaurtwo battled against [[Corey]]'s {{p|Venusaur}}, Bruteroot, in [[M01|Mewtwo Strikes Back]]. It has white colored birthmarks, possibly a defect due to its origin.

Venusaurtwo's only known move is {{m|Vine Whip}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Mewtwo
|pkmn=Charizardtwo
|type1=Fire
|type2=Flying
|img=Charizard Clone.png
|epnum=M01
|epname=Mewtwo Strikes Back
|desc=Charizardtwo battled against [[Ash's Charizard]] in [[M01|Mewtwo Strikes Back]]. It has crimson colored birthmarks, possibly a defect due to its origin.

Charizardtwo's known moves are {{m|Flamethrower}} and {{m|Seismic Toss}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Mewtwo
|pkmn=Blastoisetwo
|type1=Water
|img=Blastoise Clone.png
|epnum=M01
|epname=Mewtwo Strikes Back
|desc=Blastoisetwo battled against [[Neesha]]'s {{p|Blastoise}}, Shellshocker, in [[M01|Mewtwo Strikes Back]]. It easily defeated Shellshocker with a {{m|Rapid Spin}} attack. It has bistre colored birthmarks, possibly a defect due to its origin.

Blastoisetwo's only known move is {{m|Rapid Spin}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Mewtwo
|pkmn=Pikachutwo
|type1=Electric
|img=Pikachu Clone.png
|epnum=M01
|epname=Mewtwo Strikes Back
|desc=Pikachutwo was cloned from [[Ash's Pikachu]], and battled against it in [[M01|Mewtwo Strikes Back]]. Pikachutwo was also central to the plot of ''[[Mewtwo Returns]]''. The fur on Pikachutwo's ears are colored similar to a {{p|Pichu}}'s.

Pikachutwo's only known move is {{m|Thunderbolt}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|main=yes
|nick=Puka
|gender=male
|type1=Electric
|img=EP067.png
|epnum=EP067
|epname=The Pi-Kahuna
|desc=Puka (Japanese: '''マイケル''' ''Michael'') is a [[Pikachu variants|surfing Pikachu]] that appeared in ''[[EP067|The Pi-Kahuna]]''. Puka is at least twenty years old, having been first found on a beach on the [[Seafoam Islands]] by surfing enthusiast {{Ka|Victor}} shortly after he failed to conquer a large wave, "Humunga-Dunga" (Japanese: '''ビッグ・チューズデー''' ''Big Tuesday''). Puka is noticeably older than any other {{p|Pikachu}} seen in the anime, and has blue eyes rather than dark brown.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|nick=Gengar
|type1=Ghost
|type2=Poison
|img=Giant Gengar.png
|epnum=EP072
|epname=The Ancient Puzzle of Pokémopolis
|desc=A {{p|Gengar}} god with numerous tattoo-like markings appeared in the ''[[EP072|The Ancient Puzzle of Pokémopolis]]''. Gengar emerged from a black dumbbell-like artifact and proceed to absorb everyone in sight, before battling with Alakazam. The two Pokémon were eventually quelled by a Jigglypuff.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|nick=Alakazam
|type1=Psychic
|img=Giant Alakazam.png
|epnum=EP072
|epname=The Ancient Puzzle of Pokémopolis
|desc=An {{p|Alakazam}} god with numerous tattoo-like markings appeared in the ''[[EP072|The Ancient Puzzle of Pokémopolis]]''. Alakazam emerged from a spoon-like artifact to fight against Gengar. The two Pokémon were eventually quelled by a Jigglypuff.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|nick=Jigglypuff
|type1=Normal
|img=Bigglypuff.png
|epnum=EP072
|epname=The Ancient Puzzle of Pokémopolis
|desc=A {{p|Jigglypuff}} god with numerous tattoo-like markings appeared in the ''[[EP072|The Ancient Puzzle of Pokémopolis]]''. Jigglypuff emerged from an ancient bell to quell Gengar & Alakazam with its song.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|nick=Vileplume
|type1=Grass
|type2=Poison
|img=Valencia Vileplume.png
|epnum=EP083
|epname=Poké Ball Peril
|desc={{p|Vileplume}} was one of the many alternately colored Pokémon that lived near Professor Ivy's lab. In ''[[EP083|Poké Ball Peril]]'', a group of Vileplume went out in the night to bask in the moonlight.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|nick=Raticate
|type1=Normal
|img=OI Radicate.png
|epnum=EP083
|epname=Poké Ball Peril
|desc={{p|Raticate}} was one of the many alternately colored Pokémon that lived near Professor Ivy's lab. In ''[[EP083|Poké Ball Peril]]'', it wandered too close to a group of {{p|Vileplume}} spreading {{m|Stun Spore}} and ended up getting paralyzed. Professor Ivy saved it before any serious damage could occur.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|nick=Butterfree
|type1=Bug
|type2=Flying
|img=Orange Islands Butterfree.png
|epnum=EP083
|epname=Poké Ball Peril
|desc={{p|Butterfree}} in the [[Orange Archipelago|Orange Islands]] have differently colored wings as well as a different wing pattern as those seen in the mainland. The first one appeared in ''[[EP083|Poké Ball Peril]]''. It had not eaten for days despite [[Professor Ivy]]'s effort to make different kinds of food for it. It took a liking to [[Brock]]'s food, however, and was one of the reasons he stayed behind.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|main=Crystal Onix
|nick=Crystal Onix
|type1=Crystal
|img=Crystal Onix.png
|epnum=EP087
|epname=The Crystal Onix
|desc=In ''[[EP087|The Crystal Onix]]'' a special {{p|Onix}} made of glass crystal appeared. It lived in a cave on [[Sunburst Island]] away from civilization. [[Mateo]] wanted to capture the Onix so that it could give him inspiration to create glass Pokémon sculptures. However, just seeing it gave him the inspiration he needed.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|nick=Pink Pokémon
|type1=Hall
|img=Pink Pokemon.jpg
|epnum=EP088
|epname=In The Pink
|desc=In the episode ''[[EP088|In The Pink]]'', while wandering around [[Pinkan Island]] [[Team Rocket]] encountered a series of pink Pokémon including a pink {{p|Primeape}}, {{p|Mankey}}, {{p|Venonat}}, {{p|Caterpie}}, {{p|Parasect}}, {{p|Nidoran♂}},{{p|Nidoran♀}}, {{p|Rhyhorn}}, {{p|Nidoking}}, and {{p|Weedle}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|nick=Rhyhorn
|type1=Ground
|type2=Rock
|img=EP088.png
|epnum=EP088
|epname=In The Pink
|desc={{p|Rhyhorn}} was one of many pink Pokémon that lived on [[Pinkan Island]] were the special [[Pinkan Berry]] grew. In the episode ''[[EP088|In The Pink]]'', {{Tracey}} took the time to observe this rare Rhyhorn and drew pictures of it. Ash upset it by approaching it and it ended up charging off a cliff. They eventually saved it with the help of [[Officer Jenny]].}}

{{TrainerPoké
|nick=Nidoking
|type1=Poison
|type2=Ground
|gender=male
|img=Pink Nidoking.png
|epnum=EP088
|epname=In The Pink
|desc={{p|Nidoking}} was one of many pink Pokémon that lived on [[Pinkan Island]]. In the episode ''[[EP088|In The Pink]]'', Nidoking attacked [[Team Rocket]] after they tried to capture a pink {{p|Nidoran♂}} and {{p|Nidoran♀}}. Officer Jenny was able to subdue him by wrangling it with her jeep and tying him up with a rope.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|nick=Lapras
|type1=Water
|type2=Ice
|gender=female
|img=EP113.png
|epnum=EP113
|epname=Viva Las Lapras
|desc=The mother of [[Ash's Lapras]] appeared with the rest of its herd in ''[[EP113|Viva Las Lapras]]'' & ''[[EP257|Lapras of Luxury]]''. This {{p|Lapras}} was a lighter blue with dark blue spots, and had a darker back.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|pkmn=Snorlax
|nick=Snowmen Snorlax
|type1=Ice
|img=Snowman Snorlax.png
|epnum=PK09
|epname=Snorlax Snowman
|desc=A number of {{p|Snorlax}} adapted to more frigid climates were seen in the episode, one in particular was befriended by Pikachu and friends.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|nick=Smeargle
|type1=Normal
|img=EP197.png
|epnum=EP197
|epname=The Art Of Pokémon
|desc=Two of the {{p|Smeargle}} in ''[[EP197|The Art Of Pokémon]]'' had different colored tails. It has been mentioned in the episode that a Smeargle's tail color changes depending upon its mood.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|nick=Purple Kecleon
|type1=Tcg psychic
|img=EP205.png
|epnum=EP205
|epname=The Kecleon Caper
|desc=In ''[[EP205|The Kecleon Caper]]'', a purple {{p|Kecleon}} nicknamed Reddy appeared under the owneship of [[Madison]].
Purple Kecleon have also appeared in ''[[SS019| Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Team Go-Getters out of the Gate!]]'' and ''[[SS020| Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time & Darkness]]''.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|nick=Marill, Breloom, and Shroomish
|type1=Grass
|type2=Water
|img=AG151 error.png
|epnum=AG151
|epname=Weekend Warrior
|desc=In the episode ''[[AG151|Weekend Warrior]]'' a light-blue {{p|Marill}}, a blue {{p|Breloom}} and a {{p|Shroomish}} with white spots were seen under the ownership of three unknown trainers.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|nick=Mismagius (Rayquaza Illusion)
|type1=Ghost
|type2=Dragon
|img=Magquaza.png
|epnum=DP043
|epname=Malice in Wonderland
|desc=In the episode ''[[DP043|Malice in Wonderland]]'' a {{p|Mismagius}} merged with a {{p|Rayquaza}} illusion to create this Pokémon. The Rayquaza had Mismagius coloring, including three red spots like Mismagius's necklace. Rayquaza's tail and the appendages on its face appear worn, similar to Mismagius, making it appear more like a [[form difference]].}}

===Shiny Pokémon===
{{TrainerPoké
|main=yes
|trainer=Ash
|pkmn=Noctowl
|type1=Normal
|type2=Flying
|img=Ash Noctowl.png
|epnum=EP154
|epname=Fowl Play!
|desc={{AP|Noctowl}} was the very first Shiny Pokémon to appear in the anime. In ''[[EP154|Fowl Play!]]'', [[Dr. Wiseman]] was trying to capture this {{p|Noctowl}} using traps rather than [[Poké Ball]]s, but each time Noctowl outwitted him and escaped the traps — usually leaving him hypnotized in the process. After {{Ash}} rescued it from [[Team Rocket]], Ash had {{AP|Pikachu}} battle it and he captured it, adding it to his team.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|nick=Shuckle
|type1=Bug
|type2=Rock
|img=JessieWithShinyShuckle.png
|epnum=EP170
|epname=A Better Pill to Swallow
|desc=In ''[[EP170|A Better Pill to Swallow]]'', [[Old Man Shuckle]] sought out this {{p|Shuckle}} for its ability to create a special juice that was necessary for a special medicine to ensure Pokémon obedience. However, [[Team Rocket]] got hold of the Shuckle and drank its juice pure, which had the effect of making all nearby Pokémon obsessed with them. Old Man Shuckle was able to cure this by throwing a powder at them that apparently acted as an antidote.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|main=yes
|nick=Red Gyarados
|type1=Water
|type2=Flying
|img=Red Gyarados.png
|epnum=EP235
|epname=Talkin' 'Bout an Evolution
|desc=The [[Red Gyarados]] was first seen in ''[[EP235|Talkin' 'Bout an Evolution]]'' and ''[[EP236|Rage of Innocence]]''. It was the result of a [[Team Rocket]] plot to induce evolution. The process was successful, but as the evolution was forced, it kept the red coloration it had as a {{p|Magikarp}}. It went on a rampage down a river towards [[Mahogany Town]], but [[Lance]] eventually captured and calmed it.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Jackson
|pkmn=Magneton
|type1=Electric
|type2=Steel
|img=Magneton1.png
|epnum=EP268
|epname=Tie One On!
|desc={{p|Magneton}} made its sole appearance under [[Vincent|Jackson]]'s ownership in ''[[EP268|Tie One On!]]''. It proved to be very powerful and strategic. Jackson sent it out to battle [[Ash's Pikachu]]. After a long battle, Magneton finished Pikachu off with a {{m|Tri Attack}}, then went on to defeat {{AP|Cyndaquil}} without a problem, before finally falling to {{AP|Bulbasaur}}.

Magneton's known moves are {{m|Tri Attack}}, {{m|Thunder Wave}}, {{m|Thunderbolt}}, and {{m|Double Team}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Winona
|pkmn=Swellow
|type1=Normal
|type2=Flying
|img=Winona Swellow.png
|epnum=AG085
|epname=Sky High Gym Battle!
|desc=[[Winona]]'s {{p|Swellow}} made its sole appearance in ''[[AG085|Sky High Gym Battle!]]''. With powerful attacks such as {{m|Aerial Ace}} and {{m|Hyper Beam}}, it defeated [[Ash's Grovyle]] easily and almost beat [[Ash's Swellow]]. But with a little quick thinking on Ash's part, his Swellow was victorious, winning Ash the {{badge|Feather}}.

Swellow's known moves are {{m|Peck}}, {{m|Aerial Ace}}, {{m|Wing Attack}}, and {{m|Hyper Beam}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Jimmy
|pkmn=Magikarp
|type1=Water
|img=Shiny Magikarp.png
|epnum=AG092
|epname=Judgment Day!
|desc=This {{p|Magikarp}} made its sole appearance in a flashback occurring in ''[[AG092|Judgment Day!]]'' In it, {{ho|Jimmy}} found himself briefly in possession of the Magikarp, before someone who suspiciously resembled the [[Magikarp salesman]] offered to trade his {{p|Charmeleon}} for the Magikarp, a trade Jimmy accepted.

Magikarp's only known move is {{m|Splash}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|nick=Donphan
|gender=female
|type1=Ground
|img=AG114.png
|epnum=AG114
|epname=Date Expectations
|desc={{p|Donphan}} made her appearance in ''[[AG114|Date Expectations]]'', which took place during the Donphan mating season. She was the target of the attention of a number of male Donphan, who all attempted to impress her by using {{m|Rollout}}. However, it was an injured Donphan who won her over, with a little help from {{Ash}} and his {{ashfr|friends}}.

Donphan's only known move is {{m|Rollout}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Austin
|pkmn=Dustox
|gender=male
|type1=Bug
|type2=Poison
|img=Shiny Dustox.png
|epnum=DP073
|epname=Crossing Paths
|desc=[[Austin]]'s {{p|Dustox}} made its appearance in ''[[DP073|Crossing Paths]]'', where it and [[Jessie's Dustox]] fell in love. Ultimately, and in [[EP021|an oddly familiar]] situation, Jessie released her Dustox to allow the two to start a family.

Dustox's only known move is {{m|Confusion}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|nick=Metagross
|type1=Steel
|type2=Psychic
|img=Shinymetagross.png
|epnum=DP117
|epname=Noodles! Roamin' Off!
|desc={{p|Metagross}} made its sole appearance in ''[[DP117|Noodles! Roamin' Off!]]''. After [[Jessie]], [[James]], and {{MTR}} had disbanded, James went after this Metagross, with the intention of presenting it to the boss and crediting the whole trio, believing the promise of success to be enough to bring Jessie and Meowth back. However, James was unaware that this particular Metagross was notorious for its vicious temperament and its reputation for injuring all challengers. Once Jessie learned that James was going after the Metagross, she and Meowth rushed to his aid. This was well-timed, as James, {{TP|James|Mime Jr.}}, and {{TP|James|Carnivine}} were all tied up by Carnivine's own vines, and about to be finished off, {{TP|Jessie|Seviper}} and {{TP|Jessie|Yanmega}} came to the rescue, knocking Metagross into a canyon. Ultimately though, Metagross sent Team Rocket blasting off with a powerful {{m|Gyro Ball}}.

Metagross's known moves are {{m|Psychic}}, {{m|Lock-On}}, {{m|Hyper Beam}}, {{m|Magnet Rise}}, and {{m|Gyro Ball}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|nick=Pichu
|gender=male
|type1=Electric
|img=Notched-ear Pichu ending.png
|epnum=Get Fired up, Spiky-eared Pichu!
|epname=Get Fired up, Spiky-Eared Pichu!
|desc=[[Pikachu-colored Pichu]] is featured along with [[Spiky-eared Pichu]] in [[Get Fired up, Spiky-eared Pichu!|the fourth ''Diamond & Pearl'' series ending]].}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Makina
|pkmn=Ditto
|nick=Ditto 2
|type1=Normal
|img=Ditto Number 2.png
|epnum=DP173
|epname=Dealing With a Fierce Double Ditto Drama!
|vajp=Kiyotaka Furushima
|vaen=Michele Knotz
|desc=A Shiny {{p|Ditto}} appeared in ''[[DP173|Dealing With a Fierce Double Ditto Drama!]]'' under the ownership of [[Narissa]]. After joining its regular counterpart in causing mischief, Ash battled the Shiny Ditto with {{AP|Infernape}}. In turn, Ditto {{m|transform}}ed into an {{p|Infernape}} itself. After trading a series of {{m|Mach Punch}}es, the round ended in Ash's favor. Later, the Shiny Ditto helped Ash {{ashfr|and company}} foil another Team Rocket scheme.

Ditto's only move is {{m|Transform}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|nick=Entei, Raikou, and Suicune
|type1=Johto
|img=Legendary Beasts M13.png
|epnum=M13
|epname=Zoroark: Master of Illusions
|desc={{Main|Legendary beasts (movie 13)}}
The [[legendary beasts]] appeared in Shiny form as the protectors of [[Crown City]]. They came when Zoroark was terrorizing the town.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|nick=Ariados
|type1=Bug
|type2=Poison
|img=Shiny Ariados anime.png
|epnum=SS024
|epname=
|desc=This Shiny {{p|Ariados}} appeared in [[SS024]] as a leader of an Ariados swarm. It was defeated by [[Dawn's Quilava]] and its {{m|Eruption}}.

Ariados's known moves are {{m|Psychic}}, {{m|Poison Sting}}, and {{m|String Shot}}.}}

==See also==
* [[Shiny Pokémon]]

{{Project Anime notice|no}}
[[Category:Lists]]
[[Category:Alternate color Pokémon in the anime|*]]

Talk:List of notable ID numbers

2011-02-26T08:38:44Z

ILOVETOGETIC: /* Reserved? */ new section

== About the general idea ==
Right now the list is filled with event/special condition obtained Pokémon ID numbers. The lead does, however, state that the page could also have the ID numbers of in-game trainers. If we add them too, would it be better to make a separate list of them or to put them among the event Pokémon? Third option would be that we don't list them. What do you think? '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 11:45, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
:Same list, by number. Trainers like Hordel are already there. I think that the in-game trades should be placed too. *[[User:Tc26|tc]][[User talk:Tc26|26]]* 12:13, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

== PBR ID Numbers ==

Hm, this page states that European PBR Pokémon have the ID 12077, though I got my event PBR Pokémon with the ID 06257 (which is for the American ones; I got the Pokémon from a PAL one). Is there an error or what is this? Also, {{u|tc26|someone}} removed the spaces and slashes from the tags - while works exactly the same way, it is the HTML style to create a linefeed. MediaWiki uses the XHTML doctype, so the HTML-style tags cause pages to fail a validation. It's maybe not a big deal to you, but I find it important to use the correct markup. '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 21:12, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

== About Ho-Oh ==

Shouldn't it say how the OT is a portmanteau of Mt. and Battle, and how the ID represents the 48 purified shadow Pokémon and the 100 trainers you have to battle on Mt. Battle? I would think that that is something notable --[[User:Shadowater|Icalasari]] 07:35, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

== Reserved? ==

I was just wondering, are these ID numbers specifically ''reserved'' for the Pokémon in these giveaways, or is it still possible for a player to have an ID number that matches one on this list? Just curious. [[User:ILOVETOGETIC|I♥Togetic]] 08:38, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

Talk:Trainer ID number

2011-02-26T08:23:23Z

ILOVETOGETIC: /* 1 in 4,294,967,296 */ new section

Is the ID of the Electrivire you get thorugh PBR (The coded one) different from your Trainer ID? [[Image:Psychic-attack.png|Psychic]][[Image:Ani475MS.gif]] '''[[User:Optimus35|Agent]] [[User:Optimus35/Mission|4]][[User:Optimus35/Emerald|4]][[Gallade (Pokémon)|8]][[User talk:Optimus35|Talk]] | [[User:Optimus35/Diamond&Pearl|DP]]''' [[Image:Fighting-attack.png|Fighting]] 10:50, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
:Yes however there are 2 possible ID's for it, 1 being the US relase and 1 being the Euro release. {{ani|487}}[[User:Keirou|''''' Keirou ''''']]{{ani|491}} 01:27, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
And presumably there'll be another one for the UK woolworths Darkrais. '''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|ff8000|Lord}} of {{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|ff8000|Ori}}{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|ff8000|gami}}''' 09:41, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
==00000?==
My shiny Charizard that I got from a Japanese game and traded to my English Emerald game, then later migrated to my Pearl game, has an ID number of 00000. Is that extremely rare? or was this pokemon gotten by cheating??[[User:Shadow lucario|Shadow lucario]] 19:59, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
* It's almost impossible to start with both a shiny Charmander and a Trainer ID of 00000 (the odds are about one in 537 million). He could have gotten that ID by chance and bred a shiny Charmander, but on average he'd need to hatch 864 for even a 10% chance of one shiny. A quick Google suggests that some popular Gameshark codes produced an ID of 00000, so there's a good chance that this is hacked. --[[User:JDigital|JDigital]] 23:38, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

== Do in-game trainers have IDs? ==
Do in-game trainers, such as gym leaders, have ID numbers, secret ID numbers, and OT data? --[[User:JDigital|JDigital]] 00:59, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
:Yes, yes, yes.--[[User:RexRacer|'''Rex]][[User talk:RexRacer|Racer''']] 01:18, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
:: Interesting! Is there a list? Is there a way to find these out? --[[User:JDigital|JDigital]] 22:06, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
:::You'd need to utilise a cheating device such as an Action Replay to capture the other Trainer's Pokémon to check the ID. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 22:17, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
::::See the [[list of in-game trades]] for more information, NPCs that trade all have ID, SID and OT in their Pokémon. Gym leaders I am not so sure. I can check later tonight if you don't have an AR.--[[User:RexRacer|'''Rex]][[User talk:RexRacer|Racer''']] 22:38, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
:::::If they didn't have their own ID/OT/SID, then there'd be that 1/8192 chance of any opponent's Pokémon being shiny. Even if it's defaulted to 00000/Satoshi/00000, that prevents the game from having any opponets with shinies they don't want you to see. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:04, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
* RexRacer: I'd be very interested to see your findings! I'd test out myself with Pokémon Red/Blue with NO$GMB, but I'm not quite certain where to look. --[[User:JDigital|JDigital]] 05:57, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
::Special thanks go out to {{u|PsychicRider}} for finding this out. Apparently Pokémon that aren't there to trade (i.e. captured from another trainer/gym leader) automatically resort to your ID, SID, OT, as if you had caught them in a legitimate fashion.--[[User:RexRacer|'''Rex]][[User talk:RexRacer|Racer''']] 02:03, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
:::I did some research using VBA, and discovered some interesting results:
:::* In Pokémon Red, the Pokémon of both your rival and the first bug catcher share your OT name and Trainer ID. I think it's a reasonable assumption that this is the case for all trainers you battle in Generation I and II.
:::* In Pokémon Emerald, wild Pokémon share your trainer ID and OT name even before capture. However, it appears that trainer Pokémon use a random trainer ID, which is different even between Pokémon of the same trainer, and re-loading from save to fight the same trainer gives different trainer IDs each time. Their Trainer OT name is your name. Again, I think it's reasonable to assume that this is the case in for all trainers you battle in Generation III. Each trainer Pokémon's Personality value is consistent. --[[User:JDigital|JDigital]] 16:04, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

== Multiple trades ==
Is the trainer ID reset when a Pokémon is traded again? That is, if I received a Pokémon in a trade, then trade it again, will it have my ID number now? I don't think this is how it works, but I can't seem to figure it out on my own. [[User:Jazzmoth|Jazzmoth]] 21:33, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
:Nope. It's locked to the game it originated from. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 09:06, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

== 1 in 4,294,967,296 ==

"If two different Trainers have the same Trainer name, identical ID numbers and identical hidden ID numbers (a 1 in 4,294,967,296 chance if the names do not differ), the game will recognize the two Trainers as the same..." This is the same as the chances of finding two Spinda with the same spot pattern. Should this be mentioned? [[User:ILOVETOGETIC|I♥Togetic]] 08:23, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

Talk:Crystal Onix

2011-02-12T19:11:42Z

ILOVETOGETIC: /* Typing */ GPX+ trivia

== Alternate Coloration ==

Since it seems like it's been debated, rather than reverting an edit I'd prefer it discussed here. Since being made of crystal isn't the official alternate colour of Onix, I don't think it should be listed. Also, alternate coloration was not officially introduced yet ([[Pokémon Gold and Silver|Gold/Silver]] wasn't released, and the concept wasn't formally introduced into the anime until [[EP154]]. Could a compromise be made by putting a link in the 'see also' section? ←{'''[[User:Berrymaster|Berrymaster]]|[[User_talk:Berrymaster|Talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Berrymaster|Contrib]]'''}→ 01:31, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

You make a good point, but I accept the revert--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 01:32, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

Don't forget that a crystal Onix is alternate '''materialization'''--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 01:33, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
:Well we say the [[Pink Butterfree]] is an alternate colored Pokémon, matter of fact the first to appear in the anime, yet it's not what the shiny version looks like. And that was way before the Crystal Onix. The meaning of alternate coloration doesn't mean it's "Shiny". It just simply means it's a different color then the norm of its species. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 01:34, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
::The Pink Butterfree appeared in the anime before Shiny Pokémon had even been invented, and they just made the Butterfree pink to show that it was female. Still, I think it should still be on the list of Shiny Pokémon. But maybe the Crystal Onix should be in a sub-category called "Other Special Pokémon" or something like that. [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 09:40, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

== Typing ==

Crystal Onix is still Rock/Ground typing isn't it? It was able to repel and even live in water, which rock and ground type cannot do.--[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] 05:00, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
:Filler season of the anime from ten years ago. It's made of glass. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:20, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
::Oh alright. Thanks. And in my opinion, ''all'' of the anime is filler--[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] 07:28, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
:Concerning the typing of the Crystal Onix... I realize that fan-created sites are not canon, but can it be mentioned as trivia that on '''Global PokedeX Plus''' the Crystal Onix is a 'Novelty' Pokemon whose type is Rock/Ice? [[User:ILOVETOGETIC|I♥Togetic]] 19:11, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

Talk:MissingNo.

2011-02-04T05:33:21Z

ILOVETOGETIC: Move it to MissingNo.

{{Forme info|{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: z}} mod 5}}|0=Missingno RB|1=Spr 1b 141 f|2=Spr 1b 142 f|3=Ghost I|4=Missingno Y}}.png|{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: z}} mod 5}}|4=Normal|Bird}}|{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: z}} mod 5}}|4=999|Normal}}|Missingno.'s forms|Missingno. as though it {{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: z}} mod 5}}|0=has an index number of 1F, 20, 32, 34, 38, 3D, 3E, 43, 44, 45, 4F, 50, 51, 56, 57, 5E, 5F, 73, 79, 7A, 7F, 86, 87, 89, 8C, 92, 9C, 9F, A0, A1, A2, AC, AE, AF or B5 and is in Red or Blue version|1=has an index number of B6 and is in Red or Blue version|2=has an index number of B7 and is in Red or Blue version|3=has an index number of B8 and is in Red or Blue version|4=is in Yellow Version}}, therefore being a {{T|{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: z}} mod 5}}|4=Normal|Bird}}}}/{{Type2|{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: z}} mod 5}}|4=999|Normal}}}} Pokémon, in its {{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: z}} mod 5}}|0=Normal|1=Kabutops fossil|2=Aerodactyl fossil|3=Ghost|4=Yellow}} form|the sprite shown in the infobox, the type showed in the infobox, the type-themed color displays, the base stats entry which is unhidden, the type effectiveness entry which is unhidden, the learnset entries which are unhidden, and the evolution (form change) which is unhidden|day}}

==Previous discussion==
[[Talk:Missingno./Archive 1|Archive 1]] (2 October 2005 - 25 October 2009)

==Split==
Missingno. (Red/Blue) and Missingno. (Yellow) are very different from each other. They should be separate pages. Compare [http://www.trsrockin.com/dex_mn.html] and [http://www.trsrockin.com/dex_yellow.html]. Also compare [http://glitchcity.info/glitchdex/RB:115] and [http://glitchcity.info/glitchdex/Y:115]. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|SnorlaxMonster]] 11:17, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

Is there a tag for this? Because I can't find one. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|SnorlaxMonster]] 05:58, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
:No. It's still the same glitch, it just manifests different effects in different games. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 06:16, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
::It's really as different as {{p|'M}} and {{p|3TrainerPoké}}, other than the fact that they have the same name. The stats are completely different, Yellow's types are Normal/Glitch whereas RB's types are Bird/Normal, Yellow's Starting moves are Water Gun, Bind, Pay Day whereas RB's starting moves are Water Gun, Water Gun, Sky Attack.--[[User:SnorlaxMonster|SnorlaxMonster]] 07:12, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
:::We count Missingno.'s Yellow version counterpart as an alternate form here. It's the same species. [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] wants YOU! [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch/Bulbapedia Branch|Join the Order of the Glitch!]] [[User talk: Missingno. Master|(my talk page)]] 14:00, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
::::But that would make {{p|3TrainerPoké}} an alternate form of {{p|'M}}. The only difference between the relationship of those two, and the relationship of the two Missingno.s is that the Missingno.s have the same name. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|Snorlax]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|Monster]] 06:07, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
:::::And that difference makes all the difference. They're the same species, just as Sandy Cloak and Trash Cloak Wormadam are the same species, or Normal and Defense Deoxys. [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] wants YOU! [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch/Bulbapedia Branch|Join the Order of the Glitch!]] [[User talk: Missingno. Master|(my talk page)]] 12:12, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
::::::OK fine, but is there any way to have both Bird/Normal and Normal/999 in the top box? [[User:SnorlaxMonster|Snorlax]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|Monster]]

==More rumours==
Not mentioned on the rumours page is a theory about missingo's origin and why cubone and marowak seem so similar to kangaskhan. The theory is easy to believe even if it comes from a 4chan post. see [http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs043.snc3/13067_211106843303_637453303_3035423_5482389_n.jpg] for a screencap of the argument. --[[User:Iain7|Iain7]] 23:45, 17 December 2009 (GMT)
:There are quite a few problems with that theory, the first being that its speculation and does not belong on the article. Secondly, I don't think it is that complex or time consuming to delete an evolution. Also, Missingno. is completely unrelated to both Kangaskhan and Cubone. Also, if you look at [[List of Pokémon by index number (Generation I)|the Hex list]], you'll see that Missingno. has multiple index numbers.--[[User:SnorlaxMonster|Snorlax]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|Monster]]. Help [[User:SnorlaxMonster/GlitchEvobox|here]] 00:21, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

== Can Yellow Missingno. replicate 128 of an item? ==

I read somewhere that Missingno. in Yellow can replicate 128 of an item, but elsewhere that it cannot. Which is true? [[User:Blueapple128|Blueapple128]] 17:46, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
:First another question, can Missingno. (in either game) replicate items when encountered using the [[Mew glitch]]? If no, then it cannot. If yes it might be able to. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 06:40, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
::Never mind, found the answer here: http://forums.glitchcity.info/index.php/topic,5904.0.html. When encountered through the Mew glitch in any of RBY, it will still duplicate items. However, it will only do so in Yellow if the game doesn't freeze. Apparently it will ''always'' freeze in an emulator since it can't detect the glitchy game code properly, unlike a cartridge which has a small chance of not freezing. [[User:Blueapple128|Blueapple128]] 03:38, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

== Name Capitalization ==

Just wondering, why is MissingNo. spelled with a lowercase N in the article? It doesn't make sense. The "No." is obviously meant to be a separate word from "Missing", so it should be capitalized, just like what has been done to many names of moves and items in Generation IV. Now, before you say ''"But it's never been officially spelled like that!"'', it's ''also'' never been officially spelled with ''any'' lowercase letters, just in all capitals, so the current capitalization that you're using can't be considered officially correct, either. "MissingNo." with a capital N is the most logical capitalization, so why not use it? Also, using the current article's capitalization is just encouraging the common mispronunciation ''"Missing-No"'' instead of ''"Missing-Number"'', how it ''should'' be pronounced.
—[[User:Tyeforce|Tyeforce]] 07:36, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
:Based on what you just said, your version of the capitalization is no more correct or incorrect than this one. This one just looks better. And based on the fact that nobody's changed it back in the months since I moved the page to this name indicates that the vast majority of Bulbapedia would agree with me. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 12:14, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
::Perhaps even MISSINGNO. would be a better location. But for now, this location is fine. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 12:24, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
:::But although the game refers to the 30 odd variations of these glitches as just "MISSINGNO." that doesn't mean we need to change the article names of Pikachu, Bulbasaur and Mewtwo to PIKACHU, BULBASAUR and MEWTWO either. We are a Pokémon encyclopaedia, not a Pokémon mechanics encyclopaedia. I can confirm though that Nintendo does refer to these glitches as "MissingNO" here [http://www.nintendo.com/consumer/systems/gameboy/trouble_specificgame.jsp] --[[User:Chickasaurus|Chickasaurus]] 12:31, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
::::We don't capitalize the Pokémon names because that's not the right way to spell them. They're in all capitals in the main games, but that's just because that's always how been. I'm sure they would have changed the capitalization format for Pokémon names in Generation IV if it weren't the Generation III compatibility (because that would look extremely weird if all the Pokémon you caught in your DS game had proper capitalization, while any Pokémon you migrated from your GBA games would be in all caps). We've seen Pokémon names spelled with correct capitalization in official places outside of the main games themselves, so it's safe to assume that the correct spelling of Pokémon names isn't in all caps. And you could take Nintendo's quotes as evidence, but they contradict themselves in the spelling. First they call it "MissngNO" with a capital "NO" and no period, and then they call "MissingNo", with the O being lowercase and still no period. Obviously, there's supposed to be a period in its name, so Nintendo's spellings of the name in that particular instance can't be correct. But even if it's not 100% correct, it does provide evidence that "Missing" is separate from "No." and should be capitalized to show that. Think of how some items and moves are spelled in Generation IV that were previously in all caps. SquirtBottle, SolarBeam, DynamicPunch, etc. It's just the most logical way to spell the name. —[[User:Tyeforce|Tyeforce]] 15:59, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
:::::Yes, a lot of things do use the camelcase to separate two words, but then [[Pokéwalker]] and [[Pokédex]] come up (there are other examples, but that's off the top of my head). Anyway, we won't be calling it MissingNO., but the rule here is that allcaps in the games goes to Proper noun. But when we're quoting the game we keep the original case (as seen in the Pokédex entries). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 06:07, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
::::::Pokéwalker and Pokédex are made up words, though. They're not two separate words fused together, like Missing and Number. "Missingno." just looks plain weird. It just looks better when written as "MissingNo.", and it implies that it's "Missing Number", ''not'' "Missingno". —[[User:Tyeforce|Tyeforce]] 05:19, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Pokéwalker is more two words than Pokédex, but you also have [[Pokégear]]. Anyway, allcaps in the games goes to Proper noun unless otherwise specified. And to me, MissingNo. looks much weirder than Missingno., plus saying that a word looks funny is no excuse. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 08:28, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
(resetting indent) But the "Poké" in those words isn't a ''real'' word. Typically, words that being with "Poké" just flow together as a brand new word, without any capitalization other than the "P", like ''Pokémon'', ''Pokédex'', etc. Either that, or the "Poké" is a separate word and is followed by a space, in the case of ''Poké Ball'', etc. But anyway, yes, I know that we can't change the spelling based on opinion, which is why I gave another reason; spelling it "MissingNo." implies that it's "Missing Number", ''not'' "Missingno", as many people think it is. That, and the fact that Nintendo has spelled it "MissingNO" and "MissingNo", in both cases capitalizing the "No." part. —[[User:Tyeforce|Tyeforce]] 14:24, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
:The Nintendo part does however seem unreliable due to the inconsistencies as well as lack of period after MissingNO and MissingNo. This discussion will not be enough to move a page on such a well known topic, especially a featured article, but since an official source decided to separate the two with camelcase, it should be moved. I suggest you take it to the editorial board to see what they think about it. But I do agree with you that "MISSING" and "NO." are separate and that "NO." clearly stands for number, it may not be appropriate to assume that it should be separated by camelcase. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 00:06, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
::Maybe we could have some sort of community poll? —[[User:Tyeforce|Tyeforce]] 01:23, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
:::Bulbapedia is not a democracy. It's a policy somewhere. Anyway, you can make a poll and have people say why they think so, then the EB will review it and decide from their. I have made one below --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 01:46, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

==Moving==
Sign and say why you think it should be moved, kept here. If you vote "move it somewhere else" say where you want it moved to.
===Keep it at [[Missingno.]]===
*Nintendo hates Missingno., so their capitalization of it can hardly be called official. Besides, I think they just spell it "MissingNO." to emphasize the word "no" to subconsciously deter us from abusing the glitch. Plus, it'd look really weird that way. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 19:31, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
*Yeah, I agree, Nintendo can't be trusted in this case. [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 23:48, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
*Me too. - ''unsigned comment from {{u|TORTERRA}} ([[User talk:TORTERRA|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/TORTERRA|contribs]]) ''
*I agree. Nintendo didn't intend for it to be there, so it isn't really an official source. It just wants to get rid of it. Also, I've seen Missingno. used way more. Another thing, please sign your comments with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>.[[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 14:51, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
*the no stands for number[[User:ArceusLX|arceusLX leveled up!]] 01:17, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
*Agreed --[[User:Veggieman|veggieman]] [[User talk:Veggieman|(leave a message after the click?)]] 22:51, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

===Move it to [[MissingNo.]]===
[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 01:46, 8 April 2010 (UTC) - Nintendo has officially referred to it with a capital "n" in every case, despite other inconsistencies, also stands for Missing Number.

I agree with what many others have said: MissingNo. is a reference to "Missing Number." To have it written in the current format of Missingno. suggests that it is a word of its own or a single word, rather than a contraction of the two words, "Missing Number." Also, Nintendo has officially referred to it as MissingNO. Besides, it's a matter of basic English more than anything else; considering the fact that Nintendo doesn't really consider this an official Pokemon, we can't really go to them for the way it should be written, nor can we competently search for sources on the matter.--[[User:Aureol|Aureol]] 07:42, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

[[User:Tyeforce|Tyeforce]] 22:41, 10 April 2010 (UTC) - I'm all for the move, as I have stated [[Talk:Missingno.#Name_Capitalization|here]].

I agree with Aureol. What else is No. supposed to be? --[[User:Valorum27|Valorum27]] 22:00, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
:But Missingno. IS a word of its own- the name of a Pokémon. Beedrill is made up of the words bee and drill, and yet we don't spell it BeeDrill. Besides, how do we do this with anything else? We spell it with just the first letter capitalized until OFFICIAL AND RELIABLE sources contradict this! The garbage source SnorlaxMonster gives us means nothing, as it also says that capturing Missingno. is harmful to your game and to fix the graphic scrambling, you have to release Missingno., and if that doesn't work, to restart your game! Bull****! - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 22:46, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
::Beedrill is a name that is always spelt Beedrill by official sources (or BEEDRILL on other occasions). Some Pokémon like Ho-Oh are capitalised mid-name, because that's what their names are. All official sources use a capital N; there are NO official sources that use "Missingno.", or anything that is closer to "Missingno." than to "MissingNo.". Regardless of reliability, it is all we have, so it's what we use. If Nintendo/Game Freak/The Pokémon Company International came out and spelled MISSINGNO. differently, we would use that.--[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 14:35, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
I agree it should be moved to MissingNo. based on spellings from official sources.--[[User:Nintenfreak|Nintenfreak]] 02:21, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
:Have you not been paying attention? There IS no official source. Closest thing we have is one page where it's capitalized 2 different ways! - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 10:54, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
::Maybe you haven't been paying attention. It's OFFICIAL, but not overly RELIABLE; however, more reliable than nothing at all (which is the official sources for its current location).--[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 12:30, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
:::"Not overly reliable" is an understatement. It has two different capitalizations on the same friggin' page! And which of those are you considering for this page, anyway? MissingNo or MissingNO? They don't even add the period at the end, which is undeniably part of the name, in either instance. They don't even spell the name correctly, and you want to use one of their two contradiction capitalizations as Missingno.'s official name? I don't think so. And SnorlaxMonster, why are you all of a sudden so for the move? In the section above, you spoke ''against'' the move. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 13:27, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
::::I was against the move before, but I changed my mind and saw that it was more reasonable to go by official sources than to assume. Sure they don't use the period at the end of the name, but I'm not suggesting we move it. I suggesting that we go by the ONLY official source there is. There is no reason to leave it at Missingno. when we have a source (and Wikipedia) spelling it MissingNo. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 08:38, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
::::::We're going by a source that contradicts itself by using two different capitalizations.... and Wikipedia? The same Wikipedia that decided that not all Pokémon were notable enough for their own articles? The same Wikipedia that some bum off the street can edit? The same Wikipedia that once claimed that Woodrow Wilson invented dental floss, for several consecutive months? ''THAT'' Wikipedia??? Not to mention, your source also claims that the only way to fix the glitched graphics Missingno. sometimes causes is to release it, and if that fails, to restart the game. Says absolutely nothing about looking at another Pokémon's stats. So let's see... Your basis for moving the page is, number one, a source that offers two different capitalizations of the name, which are, for all intents and purposes, misspelled in every instance, and gives false information on how to fix the glitched graphics, and number two, an online encyclopedia that any old bum off the street can come in and edit. When I was in high school, they NEVER allowed us to use Wikipedia as a source for reports. They were always very specific about that. And that source? It's like trusting a small-time fansite that's "revealing" a trick to obtain Pikablu or some PokéGod. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 11:29, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
:Per nom [[User:Missingno000|欠]][[User talk:Missingno000|番]] 14:28, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
:I agree that "Missingno." should be moved to "MissingNo.". A lot of things about this issue were talked, in addition to those things I'd like to add this: some people would said it should be better to move it to "Missing No." because the name doesn't has separation because of the 10 chars space... But... Nintendo wrote MissingNo and MissingNO without the dot, what gave them the chance to write it with the space between Missing and No, but they choose not to do this, that is clearly a way to show us there's no such space separation. They predicted we would discuss MissingNo. name right now and left a hidden message to us: "there's no separation, look here, even with the space left of the dot we haven't wrote it separated!" ;) AND MORE: one time they wrote it MissingNo and just after it they wrote it MissingNO, which was a mental pulse of the writer, a way to mask us that Nintendo doesn't cares about MissingNo.: by leaving the last character of what they wrote one time uppercase and in the other time lowercase they meant "we don't really care about MissingNo. we just write it like we don't care if the o turned out uppercase or lowercase". The uppercase N doesn't changes in the two writings. And my conclusion is that's why it should be called "MissingNo." and no other thing. ^^ From someone who doesn't cares about this discussion but UnderstaND --[[User:Rafaelluik|Rafaelluik]] 06:44, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
:I agree. Or they should call it Missing#!--[[User:Ethan brendan lucas|Ethan brendan lucas]] 19:46, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

I think it should be moved to MissingNo. because that's how I've always thought of it. In fact, before coming to the Missingno. page today I had ''never'' seen it written any way except "MissingNo." [[User:ILOVETOGETIC|I♥Togetic]] 05:33, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

===Move it somewhere else===
Obviously it should be moved to MISSI░░N░▒▒FU▒▒▓▓▓▓ [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 01:57, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
:No, it shouldn't be MissingNo, that's too depressing. MissingYes, however, is definitely better, don't you all agree? {{u|LocoforLudicolo}} 22:11, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
:The 'no.' in MissingNo. means 'number'. Missingno. should be moved to MissingNo..

===While we're at it===
Let's move [[Ash's Pikachu]] to Ash's PIKACHU. After all, all instances of species names are in all-caps. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:50, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
:I have official merchandise which refers to them as Proper nouns rather than allcaps. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 02:10, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

===Don't move this page===

What is the point of it? It's just one letter turned to caps, isn't it? Why don't we just make the 8th letter in every article capital? [[User:Breawycker|Breawycker]] 17:14, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
:Because MISSING and NO. are separate words. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 07:38, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
::Unless official sources that care back you up on this, no they're not, not in this case. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 12:02, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
:::[http://www.nintendo.com/consumer/systems/gameboy/trouble_specificgame.jsp#missingno This] is the official source that specifically separates the two words. Also, while not an official source, Wikipedia is generally tough on accuracy and verifiability and look at their article on {{wp|MissingNo.}}.--[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 09:53, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

:::Also, why is this a special case assuming there is no source? If there is no source, shouldn't we go to the format that clearly states its meaning as "Missing Number," rather than go to a name that suggests it means something else entirely? According to the way we write, MissingNo. = Missing Number, while Missingno. = some other abbreviation, where "Missingno" is a part of that abbreviation. While, if we wanted to be perfectly correct, we would go and write it out as "Missing No." or "Missing Number," but MissingNo. is far more correct than Missingno., and MissingNo. is recognizable enough. While most of us would see Missingno. as the glitch we're discussing, someone who wasn't aware of Missingno. would look at the name and might not be able to find what it means, while it'd be much easier to deduce that MissingNo. is actually two words instead of one.--[[User:Aureol|Aureol]] 22:45, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
::::It's name is one word, if only due to the 10char limit for names. Same reason {{p|Feraligatr}} and {{p|Victreebel}} aren't spelled "Feraligator" or "Victreebell" anywhere, least of all here. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 20:31, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
:::::Exactly. Its name is Missing + Number, as confirmed by the Japanese name. MissingNo. is the two words forced together to fit the 10 character limit. Nintendo illustrated this fact by capitalizing the N in No. every time that they referred to it. For the same reason, we should too. {{p|Feraligatr}} and {{p|Victreebel}} are spelt like that everywhere, and Nintendo has always referred to them as such (anime, manga, games, TCG, TFG). MissingNo. has only ever been referred to with a capital N. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 11:58, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
::::::But there's a difference. Nintendo doesn't care about Missingno., so they wouldn't care about how they spelled it, would they? Besides, they spell it "MissingNO.", which I think is their not-so-subtle way of trying to dissuade people from going after it. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 18:59, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
:::::::That is some terrible speculation. Capitalizing NO is MISSINGNO. does not mean that they are trying to say "No" subliminally to discourage the use of the glitch (if that's what you're trying to say, without ever actually saying it). As for "Nintendo doesn't care about Missingno.", if they did not care about it then they would never have mentioned it. And even if they did not care about it, that would not impact on whether or not they choose to capitalize it in a certain way. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 12:06, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Well, as it turns out, your "official source" is unreliable, so why should we trust it? First paragraph spells it "MissingNO", second paragraph spells it "MissingNo". Neither one adds the period at the end of Missingno.'s name. Unless we get something consistant and different from a '''''reliable''''' source, the article should stay as is. And as if that weren't enough, this same so-called "reliable" source also says that restarting the game is the only way to fix the scrambled graphics Missingno. causes sometimes. And that the flashing screen happens with burns and freezing as well as poison. Yeah, I don't think so. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 23:04, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::While it is true that it inconsistent, does not use a period and is not very reliable, it is much more reliable that assuming. The "O" changes, but there is always a capital "N". Unless we find a reliable source that uses something other than a capital "N" in "NO.", then the article should stay at the more accurate, logical and official location. Nintendo most likely didn't bother doing a large amount of research into solving the glitch (due to the age of the game), and simply told people to do the obvious approach. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 02:03, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
::::::::::Just leave it here, that is the easiest thing to do. Besides it is just a letter.--[[User:Spysrg|theMEWTHREEspy]] 16:41, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
We don't work on ease, we work on accuracy. It would be easier to just read Bulbapedia, but we choose to edit. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 13:16, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
:Yes I agree, we should move it if it's needed, but is it really needed?If something else is more accurate than Missingno,move it, otherwise leave it.--[[User:Spysrg|theMEWTHREEspy]] 20:03, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

== The article tends to focus too much on one index number of Missingno. in Pokémon Yellow ==

Although variations of glitch Pokémon which use the name "Missingno." do indeed exist in Pokémon Yellow, this does not mean that there is just one [[index number]] of Missingno. in Pokémon Yellow. Different Missingno. in Pokémon Yellow commonly use different sprites, different base stats, different cries and have completely different movesets. Not all "yellow Missingno." are of the 999 type either, I think this article needs rewording to address that problem, its not as if there are 5 distinctive forms of Missingno. there are in fact (39*2) in Red/Blue and Yellow alone, not including different language games. --[[User:Chickasaurus|Chickasaurus]] 12:33, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
:You raise a valid point. However, new comments go at the bottom of talk pages. That said, you are right. We do need information on the other Yellow Missingno. formes... - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 13:15, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
::OK thanks. --[[User:Chickasaurus|Chickasaurus]] 13:24, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

i dont know how to make a new section but when used a gameshark code to make it appear in the wild i caught it then it turned into a rhydon why??[[User:ArceusLX|arceusLX leveled up!]] 01:23, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
:Its the internal error trap (as Rhydon has an index number of 01) for when the game brings up a new Pokédex entry for an invalid Pokémon. Try capturing it again, so that the "New Pokédex entry" interface doesn't pop up again. --[[User:Chickasaurus|Chickasaurus]] 14:24, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

== Some possibly helpful questions ==

1. It seems the list of characters in a player's name that can trigger Missingno.'s various forms is not exhaustive. Does anyone know what Pokemon would appear when one of those characters is used in the appropriate spot? It might be useful to have this information in the article, even if it's just a simple "having other characters in these positions will not produce Missingno. but, instead, some other Pokemon to appear".

2. The next one is more of a general programming question regarding this comment: ''Due to the limited space in the Game Boy memory, the programmers decided to use the space where data for wild Pokémon found in the grass is stored (which is completely blank in Viridian City; only Surfing and Fishing data is used) to save the player's name temporarily.'' Are there any other circumstances where a player's name has to be stored into this space? [[User:Starscream|Starscream]] 17:06, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
:1. This page should actually list less of that. That is the [[old man glitch]]. Missingno. is one possible result, so most of this info should be moved there and this to link there as a main article. In addition, Missingno. can be found via the [[Mew glitch]], but this section only explains how it works via the old man glitch. I will fix this after replying.
:2. No, not in Generation I. If there was, that would have been exploited a long time ago. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 06:52, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
::2. Regarding surfing on land strips, there is another process which could be exploited legitimately, although it is less practical than entering an Old Man battle. It is possible to make a trade within Cinnibar's Lab (as name data is stored within the RAM and recalled after trading) and then surf along any 'coast'. There are several other processes, but realistically unless messing with the RAM itself (e.g. save corruption, select bugs) they would require an external device, e.g. Professor Oak's battle mode used for catching the starter Pikachu and then surfing along a coast without encountering another Pokémon. --[[User:Chickasaurus|Chickasaurus]] 16:31, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

== Missingno.'s exp. group? ==

For such a well-known glitch, I'd think that there would be some sort of investigation on this. Is there such a levelling formula? [[User:Ztobor|Ztobor]] 03:35, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
:It's not a topic of focus when discussion glitches, but from screenshots that I've seen, it appears to be the formula that yields 1000000 at level 100 (like with most Pokémon). [[User:Ultraflame|Ultraflame]] 04:00, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

== Name ==

This page should be moved to its redirect page. {{unsigned|Ethan brendan lucas}}
:We've been discussing it [[Talk:Missingno.#Moving|here]]. --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 15:16, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

== Make a verdict already! ==

Okay. If you want to move it, put your name on 11.1. if you don't, add your name on 11.2. I'll count up the votes and see if we should move it. Finally.--[[User:Ethan brendan lucas|Ethan brendan lucas]] 23:59, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
:Umm... that's not how it works. Regular users can't just put an article's future status up to a vote. It'd need to be staff if the vote is to have any real authority. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 01:12, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
::oh.--[[User:Ethan brendan lucas|Ethan brendan lucas]] 19:10, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
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== Aerodactyl fossil MissingNo. ==

When I caught this version in Yellow, it has Normal/Flying type. Tried Thunder at another Aerodactyl fossil MissingNo. and it was super effective. Caugh another one and... wtf it was Grass/Poison O.o Another one and... Rock/Water (lol). Too bad that I took picture of only Grass/Poison [http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/4414/yellow01.png version] [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] 17:52, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
:IIRC the non-000 dex [[hybrid glitch Pokémon#family|family]] MISSINGNO. will derive their types and base stats depending on what was the last Pokémon loaded in memory, though its a ''very'' long time since I've messed with them. --[[User:Chickasaurus|Chickasaurus]] 22:53, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

== Alternate sprite ==

While playing on Pokémon Blue, I ran into Missingno. using the old man glitch. When the battle started it appeared flipped around (facing the other way and to the left) after I attacked it flipped back around like a normal Missingno. but I noticed that this one looked different. I have a picture if it and was wanting to know if it was worth doing anything with it, or giving it to some one. It had the same shape as a normal Missingno. but has a different glitchy pattern.[[User:SchattenMajora|SchattenMajora]] 05:22, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
:This sounds contrived; surely ''somebody'' would have noticed this by now... '''[[User:Hexagon Theory|«hexagon]][[User_talk:Hexagon Theory|THEORY»]]''' 05:25, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
::The Mew glitch went unproven for years. There's no real reason this ''can't'' be true...—[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 01:21, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

== MissingNo ==

I ink this article and Missingno are the same thing
[[User:4Jmaster|4Jmaster]] 21:35, 24 November 2010 (UTC) 4Jmaster
:They are. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 13:10, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

== Why don't we move it? ==

I mean, MissingNo.'s in-game name really means "Missing Number," it's as if the game's trying to tell you that the Pokémon you're encountering is missing, and it's index number is 0.
All a Pokémon name is is a permanently nicknamed number, for example, [[Mew]]'s index equivalent is 21. The game thinks "21 used (index number of a move)! It's super effective!" but the game translates it to "[[Mew]] used [[Psychic]]! It's super effective!" To recap what I have just said, as you are probably thinking "What is this kid getting at?" what I mean is, MissingNo.'s name is an abbreviated message, not an actual name.
Cheers!
[[User:Alex128|Alex128]] 18:47, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
:Wouldn't that be like moving Mew's page to 21 then? →'''[[User:Axxonn|ΑΧΧΟΝΝ]][[User talk:Axxonn|fi]][[Special:Contributions/Axxonn|re]]''' 18:54, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
@Axxonn: Not really. It's like the game knows 21=[[Mew]], or 000=[[Missingno.]] (Or in this case, MissingNo.)
[[User:Alex128|Alex128]] 01:36, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
:Missingno. is not index number 000, that is [['M]]. Missingno. has a Pokédex number of 000 ('M does too), but has a large number of different index numbers (see the infobox). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 01:42, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
@SnorlaxMonster: Enlighten me. Why does MissingNo. revert to Rhydon when certain forms are caught? If Rhydon's index number is 001, MissingNo. has to revert to the next valid index number, 001. That means MissingNo. has to be 000. It's Pokédex number is also 000. 'M could possibly share index 000 with MissingNo. [[User:Alex128|Alex128]] 00:27, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
::Its only if a glitch Pokémon displays its Pokédex entry upon capture and has an invalid Pokédex number that it reverts to {{p|Rhydon}} (see new [[Rhydon glitch]] article). This is not specific to Yellow Missingno. as many glitch Pokémon have high Pokédex numbers and revert back to Rhydon after their Pokédex entry is registered. Its not possible to have more than one Pokémon with the same index number in the same game. You can have multiple glitch Pokémon with the same Pokédex number or 'family', but not index number. --[[User:Chickasaurus|Chickasaurus]] 02:44, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
::::(conflicted)It is impossible for two Pokémon to be at the same index number in the same game (Pokédex numbers are different). All non-[[hybrid glitch Pokémon]] revert to Rhydon when their Pokédex entry is viewed after being caught, because it has the first valid index number. [[p T]] would also revert to Rhydon, despite clearly not being 00 in any aspect. It's called the [[Rhydon glitch]]. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 02:49, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
Okay, I'll admit I'm wrong. I had forgotten that MissingNo. takes up multiple index numbers, and one of them was Index 000. I apologize for my mistake, but let it be known that I support its movement. Go MissingNo.! [[User:Alex128|Alex128]] 17:48, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

== GBA Missingno ==

I've seen videos on youtube demonstrating how to catch missingno in the GBA Pokemon games.
 
 
Here's one of them just to clarify.
http://www.youtube.com/embed/ZTvJWlpfV3s
 [[User:Pgj1997|Pgj1997]]
:We know about them but refer to them here as [[glitch Pokémon]] rather than Missingno. here please. The name "Missingno." is the error handler used for placeholder/formatted species and only 39 instances used this in the GB/C games (with the other 107 being generic invalid Pokémon). [[? (glitch Pokémon)|?]] is the closest approximation to its function (25 empty spaces), though we still call it ? because that's what the game calls it. [[??????????]] and others are essentially invalid Pokémon (like the past 107 generic glitch Pokémon) but improved error handling techniques dummy out their names. Thanks. --[[User:Chickasaurus|Chickasaurus]] 16:56, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

Talk:Pokémon Center Ladies

2011-01-14T12:54:52Z

ILOVETOGETIC: /* Ghost is weak to which type? */ side note?

==Ghost is weak to which type?==
Why is the answer Psychic? Ghost isn't weak to Psychic, but vice versa. Is this an error that occurs within the game, or did someone make a mistake when writing it? If the former, should it be noted that it is, in fact, not true? [[User:GigaMetroid99|GigaMetroid99]] 12:09, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
:Perhaps They were thinking of Gen I? :P[[User:Flint A|Flint A]] 23:54, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
::If that's the case, it probably should say as a side note that the answer she wants is inaccurate for the current Generation. I'd change it myself, but I don't know for a fact that it isn't a typo here... ^.^; [[User:ILOVETOGETIC|I♥Togetic]] 12:54, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

==Mixing records==
The page says "The Quiz Lady only appears after mixing records with a friend"...I haven't done that, but I got her anyway. Are we sure about this?[[User:Flint A|Flint A]] 23:54, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

==Pokéball==
I gave the favor lady a Pokéball and didn't recive anything. Why?--[[User:Sorou|sorou]] 23:52, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

==Which will goes with center?==
Is this badly worded in-game or is it a typo by who added it to the page? [[User:Puceron|Puceron]] 04:49, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
:Likely badly worded in-game. It means, more or less, "Which one of these words goes with the word, 'center'?" Which is why the answer is "Pokémon." [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * [[User talk:ArcToraphim|the Arc Toraph]] 05:03, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
:Or typo. On 'will.' *huh* *shrug* [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * [[User talk:ArcToraphim|the Arc Toraph]] 05:06, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
::Or a typo on "goes" (goes → go), as "Which will go with CENTER?" sounds like it would fit.. I think I might have this lady on Emerald, though, so I'll check in a bit. ▫▪''[[User:Tina|Ťïňắ]]'' [[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|♥]] 05:13, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

Global Trade Station Plus

2010-10-15T05:00:51Z

ILOVETOGETIC: updated information about events and explorations

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'''Global Trade Station Plus''', commonly known as '''GTSPlus''' or simply '''GTS+''', is an English Pokémon community. It is well known for its Trade Station, as well as its sister site, Global PokédeX Plus. The website was co-founded by three members of a {{wp|Fire Emblem (video game)|Fire Emblem}} fan-site, created on the 11th June 2007, and later opened to the public on the 1st July 2007.

==History==
GTSPlus, along with its trade station, was first launched in July 2007 with high hopes of becoming a Wi-Fi staple. Despite offering a range of interactive features, activity stayed fairly low in its opening months. The site continued to grow however, further developing its Gallery and Pokédex in mid-2008 which garnered a rise in activity. Partly due to word of mouth, the forums became a commonplace for website and general Pokémon discussion at which point the total recorded trade-count had reached 100. Around late 2008 the website was upgraded to its current V2.0. Along with the upgrade came the ''interactive tab'', bringing about mass speculation as to what this button was for.

It was only until 2009 that activity really took off. Valentine's Day 2009, Febuary 14th, saw the launch of its sister site, Global Pokédex Plus. More casually referred to as GPXPlus or GPX+, the unique adoptables website allowed users to adopt Pokémon Eggs to hatch, raise, and evolve them through "clicking" other members' parties. This feature attracted a surprising amount of new members, and in just a few months the website garnered thousands of active members. With its continually growing member base, most of the website's updates are concentrated on GPXPlus.

Special events were once held monthly, allowing members to obtain rare Legendary and Novelty Pokémon that are otherwise unobtainable; however, they have now been replaced by "Explorations". There are two types of Explorations with varied difficulty: "Special Explorations" can be very difficult and have higher requirements to start, while "Normal Explorations" will be more easily accessible. Different Explorations will be cycled in and out on a monthly basis, so if a member is unable to complete an exploration within the month that it is available they can try again the next time it comes around.

==Global Pokédex Plus==
The gameplay mechanics are simple. Most users are trying to attain one or more of three main goals:

*Rank highly on the statistics boards
*Obtain Eggdex and Pokedex entries for every Pokémon known
*Obtain all of the achievements possible on the site

There are also eight main sections/functions of GPX+, with each being linked at the top of the page.

*'''Lab''' - The Lab displays a list of Pokémon eggs that may be claimed through "egg descriptions". Several legendaries may also be summoned through "summoning items" in the Lab.
*'''Shelter''' - The Shelter is split into two categories - the Egg Shelter and the Safari Zone. The Egg shelter shows all eggs bred or released by other users, and the Safari Zone shows all Pokémon released by other users.
*'''Pokétch''' - The Pokétch provides a variety of functions, including access to the user's Party, Daycare, and various other functions. Access to the underground, initiating "shiny hunts" through the Shine Recorder, Daycare, user statistics, interactions, Pokéwalker, achievements, inventory, journal, released Pokémon, bred Pokémon, signature image codes, Pal Pad, friend recorder, and Vs. Seeker is located here. Some functions such as the Vs. Seeker and the Shine Recorder must be bought in the shop before they can be used.
*'''Dex''' - The Pokédex shows a list of all Pokémon the user has obtained data for. This includes Egg Data, which is obtained through hatching an egg of a certain species, and Pokémon Data, which can be obtained through the same process, or adopting a Pokémon from the shelter. The Dex also lists Dex completion stats, evolution information, and also features an in-depth sorting system.
*'''PC''' - Pokémon that aren't in a user's party are stored here. The default PC has 25 boxes, with each storing up to 24 Pokémon, but an additional 15 extra PC boxes may be bought in the store.
*'''Shop''' - Items such as battle equipment for the Vs. Seeker (Black Belt, Dragon Fang, etc.), accounts upgrades, miscellaneous items and evolution items can be found in the shop. The shop's stock changes every 12 hours at 6:00am and 6:00pm. The shop also contains a section for accessories and a backroom section which may be unlocked after obtaining a Secret Key. Accessories may be used to dress up Pokémon, and the Backroom displays items sold off by other members.
*'''Stats''' - The statistics page is a detailed list of site totals, daily totals, and various "top tens". Many users compete to earn a spot on these lists.
*'''Help''' - The help section and FAQ.

Points (the currency used in game) can be gathered through clicking and interacting with other Pokémon and eggs to give them maturity. They are awarded when achievements are unlocked, and every time a Pokémon is leveled to 100, or a new egg is adopted.

==Staff==
===Administrators===
*Zerxer - One of the coders for GPX+
*Big Bidoof - One of the coders for GPX+
*Wymsy - Handles art and monthly events

===Global Moderators===
*Black Ice
*Lord Raven
*Pokii
*Letan
*ChroniclerC
*Icicle
{{Project Fandom notice}}
[[Category:Fan sites]]

Talk:Pokémon Trading Card Game 2: The Invasion of Team GR!

2010-10-09T07:08:13Z

ILOVETOGETIC: /* Wouldn't it be nice? */ new section

==The reason?==
Does anyone know the reason why this was a Japan-only release and why it was never translated into English and put out on the American and European markets? [[User:Takoto|~~Takoto]] - [[User_talk:Takoto|サソデイ]] 16:33, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
:It didn't sell too well in the states.--'''[[User:Prmatt11|''Mew'']] [[User talk:Prmatt11|a.k.a.]] [[Special:Contributions/Prmatt11|Prmatt11]]''' at 17:38, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

::Part of it may also have to do with the fact that the card selection in the game was horribly out of date, even in the Japanese release. The selection of cards extends from the {{TCG|Base Set}} to the {{TCG|Team Rocket}} expansion. By the time this game came out in Japan, {{TCG|Neo Genesis}} had come out in America, who was about two months away from {{TCG|Neo Discovery}}; Japan, on the other hand, had {{TCG|Neo Destiny}} released in their country not even three weeks before this video game and were a few months away from the critically-panned {{TCG|Pokémon VS|VS}} set.

::My [[$1|2¢]]: The right decision was made to leave it Japan-only. And not just for the card selection, but also for needing to translate quite a good chunk of the {{TCG|Vending Machine cards|Vending collection}} which was never printed as actual cards in English (although [[Wizards of the Coast|Wizards]] had wanted to bring that collection stateside...) --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 00:18, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

== It been 2 years... ==

What have I missed?

Just wanted to finish what I have started... :(

== Wouldn't it be nice? ==

I really hope they translate this game for the 3DS Virtual Console! That would be so ''awesome''! [[User:ILOVETOGETIC|I♥Togetic]] 07:08, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

Draft:Pokémon by release date

2010-09-06T03:08:10Z

ILOVETOGETIC: fixed mix-up of the positions of Doryuuzu and Ononokusu

{{User:SnorlaxMonster/nav}}

This is a list of Pokémon by their date of revelation. Whether or not it is mainspace material I don't know. I want to keep it, even if it's not mainspace material.

The first column is when a silhouette is given, it is supported by a non-official but semi-reliable source, or it is seen in a battle screenshot with no other elaboration. The second column is the official release, which includes leaks of official sources, [[Pokémon Sunday]], [[Corocoro]], etc. There are two columns because often multiple Pokémon are revealed at once, so this column can further break it down.

Eventually I hope to go back through the Bulbanews archives and do something similar for the Generation IV Pokémon. I'm not sure if I will yet, but I probably will wait until all Isshu Pokémon are released before I start this. Or I'll start with the alternate forms, like [[Spiky-eared Pichu]] and Sky {{p|Shaymin}}. I highly doubt that I would go back to Generation III or before, as these releases are less clear. It might be nice if we were to include a "release" section on the Pokémon pages.

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|- style="height:29px"
!Officially released
!Not officially released yet
|-valign="top"
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! style="background: #{{black color light}}" | Image
! style="background: #{{black color light}}" | Pre-release
! class="roundytr" style="padding:2px; background: #{{black color light}}" | Release
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|{{p|Zoroark}}
|[[File:Zoroark.png|80px]]
|[[n:First Gen V Pokémon revealed in Pokémon Sunday|6 Feb 2010]]{{tt|*|Silhouette}}
|[[n:March 2010 CoroCoro features new Pokémon, Ranger game|10 Feb 2010]]
|- style="background:#FFFFFF;"
|{{p|Zorua}}
|[[File:Zorua.png|70px]]
|
|[[n:March 2010 CoroCoro features new Pokémon, Ranger game|10 Feb 2010]]
|- style="background:#FFFFFF;"
|{{p|Tsutarja}}
|[[File:494Tsutarja.png|80px]]
|[[n:Black, White Starter Pokémon silhouettes unveiled on Pokémon Sunday|8 May 2010]]{{tt|*|Silhouette}}
|[[n:CoroCoro scan reveals Generation V information|12 May 2010]]
|- style="background:#FFFFFF;"
|{{p|Pokabu}}
|[[File:497Pokabu.png|80px]]
|[[n:Black, White Starter Pokémon silhouettes unveiled on Pokémon Sunday|8 May 2010]]{{tt|*|Silhouette}}
|[[n:CoroCoro scan reveals Generation V information|12 May 2010]]
|- style="background:#FFFFFF;"
|{{p|Mijumaru}}
|[[File:500Mijumaru.png|60px]]
|[[n:Black, White Starter Pokémon silhouettes unveiled on Pokémon Sunday|8 May 2010]]{{tt|*|Silhouette}}
|[[n:CoroCoro scan reveals Generation V information|12 May 2010]]
|- style="background:#FFFFFF;"
|{{p|Reshiram}}
|[[File:Reshiram.png|80px]]
|
|[[n:Black and White legendaries revealed|28 May 2010]]
|- style="background:#FFFFFF;"
|{{p|Zekrom}}
|[[File:Zekrom.png|80px]]
|
|[[n:Black and White legendaries revealed|28 May 2010]]
|- style="background:#FFFFFF;"
|{{p|Giaru}}
|[[File:Giaru.png|80px]]
|
|[[n:More Black and White information surfacing|11 June 2010]]
|- style="background:#FFFFFF;"
|{{p|Munna}}
|[[File:Munna.png|80px]]
|
|[[n:More Black and White information surfacing|11 June 2010]]
|- style="background:#FFFFFF;"
|{{p|Mamepato}}
|[[File:Mamepato.png|80px]]
|
|[[n:More Black and White information surfacing|11 June 2010]]
|- style="background:#FFFFFF;"
|{{p|Chillarmy}}
|[[File:Chillarmy.png|80px]]
|
|[[n:More Black and White information surfacing|11 June 2010]]
|- style="background:#FFFFFF;"
|{{p|Hihidaruma}}
|[[File:Hihidaruma.png|80px]]
|
|[[n:More Black and White information surfacing|11 June 2010]]
|- style="background:#FFFFFF;"
|{{p|Shimama}}
|[[File:Shimama.png|70px]]
|
|[[n:More Black and White information surfacing|11 June 2010]]
|- style="background:#FFFFFF;"
|{{p|Meguroko}}
|[[File:Meguroko.png|80px]]
|
|[[n:More Black and White information surfacing|11 June 2010]]
|- style="background:#FFFFFF;"
|{{p|Koromori}}
|[[File:Koromori.png|80px]]
|[[n:Fourth anime series title revealed|1 July 2010]]
|[[n:Oha Suta confirms another Pokémon from anime leak|6 July 2010]]
|- style="background:#FFFFFF;"
|{{p|Gochiruzeru}}
|[[File:Gochiruzeru.png|60px]]
|[[n:New Pokémon, gameplay shown on Oha Suta|27 June 2010]]
|[[n:More new Pokémon seen during demo|9 July 2010]]
|- style="background:#FFFFFF;"
|{{p|Rankurusu}}
|[[File:Rankurusu.png|100px]]
|[[n:New Pokémon, gameplay shown on Oha Suta|27 June 2010]]
|[[n:More new Pokémon seen during demo|9 July 2010]]
|- style="background:#FFFFFF;"
|{{p|Kibago}}
|[[File:Kibago.png|70px]]
|[[n:Fourth anime series title revealed|1 July 2010]]
|[[n:More new Pokémon seen during demo|9 July 2010]]
|- style="background:#FFFFFF;"
|{{p|Minezumi}}
|[[File:Minezumi.png|80px]]
|[[n:Movie 13, Bandai possibly reveal new Pokémon|5 July 2010]]{{tt|*|Name thought to be Nezumimi}}
|[[n:More new Pokémon appear|12 July 2010]]
|- style="background:#FFFFFF;"
|{{p|Wargle}}
|[[File:Wargle.png|80px]]
|[[n:Silhouette of new Pokémon shown on Pokémon Sunday|11 July 2010]]{{tt|*|Silhouette}}
|[[n:More new Pokémon appear|12 July 2010]]
|- style="background:#FFFFFF;"
|{{p|Musharna}}
|[[File:Musharna.png|80px]]
|
|[[n:More new Pokémon appear|12 July 2010]]
|- style="background:#FFFFFF;"
|{{p|Victini}}
|[[File:Victini.png|80px]]
|[[n:Movie 13, Bandai possibly reveal new Pokémon|5 July 2010]]
|[[n:Pokémon Sunday reveals new legendary Pokémon|24 July 2010]]
|- style="background:#FFFFFF;"
|{{p|Gigaiasu}}
|[[File:Gigaiasu.png|80px]]
|[[n:New Pokémon, gameplay shown on Oha Suta|27 June 2010]]
|[[n:Leaked images from Black and White tour reveals new Pokémon|7 August 2010]]
|- style="background:#FFFFFF;"
|{{p|Shikijika}}
|[[File:Shikijika-Spring.png|80px]]
|[[n:New Black and White info revealed|30 July 2010]]
|[[n:Leaked images from Black and White tour reveals new Pokémon|7 August 2010]]
|- style="background:#FFFFFF;"
|{{p|Emonga}}
|[[File:Emonga.png|80px]]
|
|[[n:Leaked images from Black and White tour reveals new Pokémon|7 August 2010]]
|- style="background:#FFFFFF;"
|{{p|Moguryuu}}
|[[File:Moguryuu.png|80px]]
|[[n:New Pokémon, gameplay shown on Oha Suta|27 June 2010]]
|[[n:September CoroCoro begins to leak|7 August 2010]]
|- style="background:#FFFFFF;"
|{{p|Mamanbou}}
|[[File:Mamanbou.png|80px]]
|[[n:Oha Suta reveals new Pokémon|21 July 2010]]
|[[n:September CoroCoro begins to leak|7 August 2010]]
|- style="background:#FFFFFF;"
|{{p|Swanna}}
|[[File:Swanna.png|80px]]
|[[n:New Black and White info revealed|30 July 2010]]
|[[n:September CoroCoro begins to leak|7 August 2010]]
|- style="background:#FFFFFF;"
|{{p|Miruhoggu}}
|[[File:Miruhoggu.png|80px]]
|[[n:New Black and White info revealed|30 July 2010]]
|[[n:September CoroCoro begins to leak|7 August 2010]]
|- style="background:#FFFFFF;"
|{{p|Kurumiru}}
|[[File:Kurumiru.png|80px]]
|[[n:New information leaked through Yahoo! website|4 August 2010]]
|[[n:September CoroCoro begins to leak|7 August 2010]]
|- style="background:#FFFFFF;"
|{{p|Yanappu}}
|[[File:Yanappu.png|80px]]
|[[n:Movie 13, Bandai possibly reveal new Pokémon|5 July 2010]]
|[[n:Pokémon Sunday reveals new Pokémon Yanappu|21 August 2010]]
|}
|
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! class="roundytl" style="padding:2px; background: #{{black color light}}" | Name
! style="background: #{{black color light}}" | Image
! class="roundytr" style="padding:2px; background: #{{black color light}}" | Pre-release
|- style="background:#FFFFFF;"
|{{p|User:S2daam/Ononokusu|Ononokusu}}{{tt|*|top right}}
|[[File:BW Prerelease double battle.png|80px]]
|[[n:New Pokémon, gameplay shown on Oha Suta|27 June 2010]]
|- style="background:#FFFFFF;"
|{{p|User:Axxonn/Doryuuzu|Doryuuzu}}{{tt|*|top left}}
|[[File:BW Prerelease double battle.png|80px]]
|[[n:New Pokémon, gameplay shown on Oha Suta|27 June 2010]]
|- style="background:#FFFFFF;"
|{{p|User:Turtwig A/Desukaan|Desukaan}}{{tt|*|back left}}
|[[File:BW Prerelease double battle.png|80px]]
|[[n:New Pokémon, gameplay shown on Oha Suta|27 June 2010]]
|- style="background:#FFFFFF;"
|{{p|User:Turtwig A/Denchura|Denchura}}{{tt|*|back right}}
|[[File:BW Prerelease double battle.png|80px]]
|[[n:New Pokémon, gameplay shown on Oha Suta|27 June 2010]]
|- style="background:#FFFFFF;"
|{{tt|Rakonosuke|Approximation from distorted text}}{{tt|*|left}}
|[[File:Mijumaru evolutions.jpg|80px]]
|[[n:Fourth anime series title revealed|1 July 2010]]
|- style="background:#FFFFFF;"
|{{tt|Tsutakake|Approximation from distorted text}}{{tt|*|left}}
|[[File:Tsutarja evolutions.jpg|80px]]
|[[n:Fourth anime series title revealed|1 July 2010]]
|- style="background:#FFFFFF;"
|[[User:Sol/Hatoopoo|Hatoopoo]]{{tt|*|opponent}}
|[[File:BW Demo 1.jpg|80px]]
|[[n:More new Pokémon seen during demo|9 July 2010]]
|- style="background:#FFFFFF;"
|{{p|User:Ataro/Darumakka|Darumakka}}{{tt|*|Opponent}}
|[[File:Darumakka battle.png|80px]]
|[[n:Leaked images from Black and White tour reveals new Pokémon|7 August 2010]]
|- style="background:#FFFFFF;"
|{{p|User:Turtwig A/Basurao|Basurao}}{{tt|*|Opponent}}
|[[File:Basurao battle.png|80px]]
|[[n:Leaked images from Black and White tour reveals new Pokémon|7 August 2010]]
|- style="background:#FFFFFF;"
|{{p|User:SnorlaxMonster/Tabunne|Tabunne}}{{tt|*|Right opponent}}
|[[File:Tabunne battle.png|80px]]
|[http://spmb.blog133.fc2.com/blog-entry-95.html 10 August 2010]
|- style="background:#FFFFFF;"
|???{{tt|*|Left}}
|[[File:BW Yokohama Advertisement 1.png|80px]]
|[[n:Japanese blog reveals new Pokémon|18 August 2010]]
|- style="background:#FFFFFF;"
|???{{tt|*|Right}}
|[[File:BW Yokohama Advertisement 2.png|80px]]
|[[n:Japanese blog reveals new Pokémon|18 August 2010]]
|- style="background:#FFFFFF;"
|???{{tt|*|Right}}
|[[File:BW Prerelease Daycare.jpg|80px]]
|[[n:Ads for Pokémon Black and White feature unseen footage|1 September 2010]]
|- style="background:#FFFFFF;"
|???{{tt|*|Right; unconfirmed}}
|[[File:Tsutarja evolutions.jpg|80px]]
|[[n:2ch, others leak heap of Black and White info|1 September 2010]]
|- style="background:#FFFFFF;"
|???{{tt|*|Left; unconfirmed}}
|[[File:Pokabu evolutions.jpg|80px]]
|[[n:2ch, others leak heap of Black and White info|1 September 2010]]
|- style="background:#FFFFFF;"
|???{{tt|*|Right; unconfirmed}}
|[[File:Pokabu evolutions.jpg|80px]]
|[[n:2ch, others leak heap of Black and White info|1 September 2010]]
|- style="background:#FFFFFF;"
|???{{tt|*|Right; unconfirmed}}
|[[File:Mijumaru evolutions.jpg|80px]]
|[[n:2ch, others leak heap of Black and White info|1 September 2010]]
|- style="background:#FFFFFF;"
|{{p|User:PsychicRider/Hiyappu|Hiyappu}}{{tt|*|Back right; unconfirmed}}
|[[File:Prerelease Hiyappu.png|80px]]
|[[n:2ch, others leak heap of Black and White info|4 September 2010]]
|- style="background:#FFFFFF;"
|{{p|User:PsychicRider/Baoppu|Baoppu}}{{tt|*|Name only; unconfirmed}}
|
|[[n:2ch, others leak heap of Black and White info|4 September 2010]]
|}
|}

{{User:Maverick Nate/Mainspace}}

Draft talk:Pokémon by release date

2010-09-06T03:02:36Z

ILOVETOGETIC: /* Daycare Pokémon */ Exeggutor look-alike

== Unnamed recently-revealed new Pokémon ==

[http://spmb.blog133.fc2.com/blog-entry-110.html A link] from [http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Japanese_blog_reveals_new_Pok%C3%A9mon a recent Bulbanews article] contains images of 2 new Pokémon; I figured you might want to add them to your "Pokémon by release date" page (which I love, by the way). P.S. The second one there is kinda dark, but the video on that page includes a shot of it that is brighter, so if you take a screen capture of that scene the Pokémon will be more visible. ;D [[User:ILOVETOGETIC|Pokémaniac]] 22:33, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
:Thanks. I read that article, but kind of ignored it (I don't know why). I just read the article on Yanappu. You're free to edit this if you want to add to it or fix it. Also, I'm glad that you like it. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 13:39, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

== nezumimi ==

actually it's already been confirmed that Nezumimi is Minezumi so it should be removed [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 07:58, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
:Thanks. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 08:29, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
:: :D no prob [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 08:36, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

== Daycare Pokémon ==
Aren't those a Butterfree and Kurumiru? [[User:Turtwig A|Turtwig's]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A-B-Cs]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 19:59, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
:Butterfree isn't in Isshu, and Kurumiru's sprites doesn't match up ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 20:03, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
:I actually thought the one on the right looked like Exeggutor, but I know the older Pokémon aren't in Isshu so I have no idea what it really is. I guess we're just going to have to wait to find out. [[User:ILOVETOGETIC|I♥Togetic]] 03:02, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

User talk:ILOVETOGETIC

2010-08-22T03:07:03Z

ILOVETOGETIC: /* Signature */

Please read over the {{bp|manual of style}}. Thanks. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 21:58, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

== Signature ==
According to the [[Bulbapedia:Signature policy|signature policy]], ''Signatures must reflect a user's actual username, in part or in whole.'' However, your current signature does not reflect your username. Please fix this as soon as possible. Thank you. --[[User:Phantomjunkie|Phantom]]♫[[User talk:Phantomjunkie|Junkie]] 02:47, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
:Oh... Oops, sorry! ^.^; [[User:ILOVETOGETIC|I♥Togetic]] 03:00, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
::I like your new signature =D It's cute! --[[User:Phantomjunkie|Phantom]]♫[[User talk:Phantomjunkie|Junkie]] 03:00, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
:::Thanks... It was actually because I saw the "♫" in your signature that I decided to put a heart in mine. ;) [[User:ILOVETOGETIC|I♥Togetic]] 03:07, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

2007-09-24T08:22:13Z

ILOVETOGETIC: /* Fight */

'''Pokémon battles''' are a form of competition between [[Pokémon]]. In these battles, one or more of the battling Pokémon is typically owned and [[Pokémon training|trained]] by a [[Pokémon trainer]]. As many as four Pokémon trainers and four Pokémon may complete at once in a Pokémon battle. Trainers battle their Pokémon against wild Pokémon to weaken them for capture.

If a Pokémon battle is won, any Pokémon who participated gains experience, unless they fainted, or if they are level 100.

=Progression of Battle=

==Fight==
If Fight is selected, the menu of moves the Pokémon knows will appear. The trainer may select one of up to four [[move]]s his or her Pokémon knows, and command the Pokémon to use it. The Pokémon may or may not obey, depending on the trainer's [[Badge|Badges]] and any [[status ailment]]s (e.g. sleep).

Pokémon may learn up to four different moves. There is a great variety of moves, including attacks, and those with special effects. The kinds of moves that can be learned vary for each [[Pokémon#Species|Pokémon species]]. Moves may be effective against, super effective against, not very effective against, or not affective at all against certain Pokémon depending on both of their [[elemental types]]. Also, moves may land a ''[[critical hit]]'' on the foe; when this happens, its damage is doubled.

==Pokémon==
If Pokémon is selected, the menu of Pokémon in the trainer's [[party]] will appear. The trainer may check summaries of information of the Pokémon, or withdraw his active Pokémon and shift it for another.

==Pack==
If Pack is selected, the menu of [[item]]s that the trainer has in their [[bag]] will appear. The trainer may use one of them on his Pokémon.

==Run==
If Run is selected, the trainer will attempt to flee from the battle. Trainers cannot flee from battles against other trainers.

==Call==
This option appears only in [[Pokémon Colosseum]] and [[Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness]], in place of the Run option (since there are few wild Pokémon, and those that do exist are easy to beat, and the battles are entered into willingly). Using this option, the trainer calls out the Pokémon's name. This snaps out a [[Shadow Pokémon]] from [[Hyper Mode]] or [[Reverse Mode]], contributing to its purification. It can also be used simply to pass a turn without making a move. This will also wake a Pokémon from sleep. Additionally, in Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness, calling a Pokémon will raise its accuracy by one level if it's not asleep.

= Battling wild Pokémon =
Pokémon live in many places such as caves and forests, so when a trainer passes through such places, Wild Pokémon may attack them. When they do, they can use a [[Poké Ball]] to catch them. A trainer can also have their Pokémon fight wild ones to become stronger.

If a trainer causes the wild Pokémon to faint, it cannot be captured.

The [[Pokémon anime]], trainers don't generally seek out battles against wild Pokémon unless they want to capture one or are defending themselves against an aggressive attack from a wild Pokémon.

= Battling trainers =
A Pokémon battle between trainers is different. In the [[Pokémon games]], when eye contact is made between trainers, they will battle. Trainers cannot run from battles against other Pokémon Trainers. The battle will continue until a winner is decided. The victor is awarded with prize money.

There are two kinds of battles between trainers: single battles and double battles.

==Single battles==

In single battles, a trainer is against another, and both may send out one Pokémon each who battle head to head.

===Strategy===
(to be added)

==Double battles==
In double battles, a trainer may be against two other trainers, or two trainers may be against two other trainers; and depending on if he or she has a allying trainer or not, he or she may send out either one or two Pokémon. In competitive double battles in places like the [[Battle Tower]], or in [[Orre]], individual trainers send out two Pokémon each.

===Strategy===
Some attacks can affect both opponent Pokémon, while others affect all Pokémon other than the user.

{{main|Double battle}}

= Battles in the video games =
In Pokémon video games, battles are conducted in a strictly turn-based manner. Before a turn starts, trainers select their action, be it an attack, utilizing an item or switching another Pokémon to battle. Once both trainers have chosen their actions, the turn begins and the actions are carried out, depending on the kind of action and/or the speed of the Pokémon. There are many situations that can contribute to the order actions go in during a turn, or if the action happens at all.

A trainer wins when all of the opponent's Pokémon are defeated. When a Pokémon faints, a trainer may send out another Pokémon. If he or she does not have any more Pokémon who can battle, he or she loses some money, and is returned home or to a [[Pokémon Center]].

= Battles in the anime =
In the Pokémon anime battles are conducted in a sort of pesudo-turn-based manner. Trainers bark orders to their Pokémon one after the other, there are no concerns about waiting for Pokémon to finish their attacks (allowing for trainers to request immediate defense against attacks), however most, if not all trainers wait for the other to finish talking before telling their Pokémon what to do next.

Official trainer battles are watched over by a referee or judge of sorts, who declares when a Pokémon is unable to battle. Some battles, such as [[Pokémon League]] battles, require a trained referee for the matches, but informal battles can be conducted with anyone who is overall knowledgeable about battles serving as the referee or even with no referee at all. Many of [[Ash Ketchum|Ash's]] battles have been conducted with [[Brock]] serving as the referee.

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[[ja:バトル]]

Legendary beasts

2007-09-24T08:11:54Z

ILOVETOGETIC: extra info on appearance of pokemon

[[Image:3_beasts.jpg|thumb|right|Suicune, Entei, and Raikou.]]The '''legendary beasts''' is the collective term used to refer to the [[Legendary trio|trio]] of {{p|Entei}}, {{p|Raikou}}, and {{p|Suicune}}. However, many still refer to them as '''legendary cats''' or '''legendary dogs''', depending on if they personally see feline or canine features in the individual Pokémon.

The beasts are available in several of the Pokémon games, as opposed to their other legendary trio counterparts. The three (reduced to just Raikou and Entei in [[Pokémon Crystal|Crystal]]) are available [[roaming Pokémon|roaming]] the wilds of [[Johto]] in [[Generation II]], and appear in [[Generation III]] in [[Pokémon Colosseum]], where they are transformed into [[Shadow Pokémon]] by [[Cipher]] and owned by the admins [[Dakim]], [[Venus]], and [[Ein]]. They are also found in [[Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen|FireRed and LeafGreen]], where one of the trio is roaming the [[Kanto]] region. The one that happens to roam Kanto is affected by the player's choice of a [[starter Pokémon]] at the beginning of the game, with Raikou appearing to trainers who chose {{p|Squirtle}}, Entei to those who took {{p|Bulbasaur}}, and Suicune to those who chose to go with {{p|Charmander}}.

A direct counterpart to the [[legendary birds|Generation I trio]], the beasts find their [[trio master|master]] in {{p|Ho-Oh}}, who revived them when [[Ecruteak City]]'s [[Brass Tower]] burned. They are said to embody the three events that happened to the tower: the [[Electric (type)|lightning]] that struck the tower, the [[Fire (type)|fire]] that burned in the tower, and the [[Water (type)|water]] that put it out. It is speculated, however, that the three that Ho-Oh created are not the only members of their respective species. In [[Pokémon 4Ever]], [[Professor Oak]] speaks about the Suicune in question as if the Pokémon was only part of a species. Pokédex entries also state that an Entei is born every time a volcano erupts.

Of the three beasts, Suicune finds the most independence, appearing as a [[version mascot]] on the box art of [[Pokémon Crystal]], and taking an expanded role in that game. Suicune also appears in Pokémon 4Ever as a protagonist, while Entei was the first of the three to have a movie appearance, in [[Spell of the Unown]]. Raikou was delegated to a more minor role, appearing as the central character in [[The Legend of Thunder!]], where [[Jimmy (Legend of Thunder)|Jimmy]], not [[Ash]], encountered it. However, Misty's Togepi and a Houndoom did see the silhuette of a Raikou in episode 23 of the 4th season (Pokemon: Johto League Champions) of the TV show: Houndoom's Special Delivery.

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