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2009-08-10T17:50:41Z

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{{User Project Cities and Towns}}
{{User Project Fandom}}
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Bulbapedia:Project Cities and Towns

2009-08-10T17:48:43Z

EpicFail: /* Participants */

Some Bulbapedia members have formed a [[Bulbapedia:Project|project]] to better organize efforts to write and improve articles about '''towns and cities in the Pokémon world'''. If you would like to help, please inquire on the [[{{NAMESPACE}} talk:{{PAGENAME}}|talk page]] or the [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/forumdisplay.php?f=195 Bulbapedia forum] and see the [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{PAGENAME}}/To-do list]]. You can also sign up below.

==Project Cities and Towns==
===Scope and aims===
Project Cities and Towns covers all articles about towns and cities in the Pokémon world.

The ultimate goal is to create and standardize articles for every city and town that has been featured in the Pokémon games. This project covers every town in the regions of Kanto, Johto, Hoenn, and the Sevii Islands. Currently, this does not include anime-exclusive locales.

===Participants===
To join the project, simply add your name to the bottom of this list:

*[[User:TwinsMetsFan|TwinsMetsFan]] - founder and leader of project.
*[[User:TTEchidna|Tom Temprotran]] - The guy who (mostly) GIMPs the newer maps.
*[[User:Mewtwo Ex|Mewtwo Ex]] - I love the cities and towns in the games
*[[User:Pokemonpearlwanter|Pokemonpearlwanter]]
*[[User:Maths|Maths]]-I am a newbie though a good researcher in Pokémon
*{{u|PC_GEEK}}
*{{u|Pterodactal}} - do what i can on Kanto and Sinnoh
*{{u|Manaphy9}} - I'm doing anything and everything.
*{{u|Summer!}} - I am getting the populations of the cities of Sinnoh to add to their pages.
*{{u|Theryguy512}}
*{{u|Sang'gre Habagat}}
*{{u|Moisesmorales}} - I would love to help on [[Johto]] and [[Kanto]]
*{{u|Tina}} - Helping out on Hoenn and Sinnoh.
*[[User:Griff|Griff]] - i can try to help with Sinnoh.
*[[User:Clarky13|Clarky13]] - Helping out with Hoenn
*{{u|Flame alex}} - can help out with Kanto and Sinnoh
*[[User:Totodile trainer|Lilio]] - i will try and find some johto places
*[[User:Coolcatkim22]] - Doing any city in Kanto, Jhoto, Hoenn and Sinnoh.
*[[User:Robbo5002]] - Kanto and Sinnoh are my speciality!
*{{u|Shayminlight58}} - doing the johto stuff
*{{u|Dialga 625}} - Sinnoh and Hoenn. Possibly Kanto.
*[[User:Jammi568|Jammi568]]: Kanto and Johto, definatly.
*[[User:H4r8z0r|H4r8z0r]] - Helping out anywhere in the world, including anime-exclusive locations.
*{{u|Ultamatecharizard}}
*[[User:Russell777|Russell777]]: Everything, but I can't create articles because my computer is not compatible with .php files.
*{{u|Galm}}:Anything Hoenn
*{{u|Lueroi}}:Great knowledge of the all cities/towns in the 4 main regions.
*[[User:S1tHSL4y3r|S1tHSL4y3r]]
*{{u|EspeonA}}
*{{u|DAWN FAN}}
*{{u|ShinjiLover}}
*{{u|Pokemonguy1}}
*{{u|Lazerdude07}}
*[[User:Pikapower1|Pikapower1]]: Memorized every area in Sinnoh and Fiore.:D
*{{U|tandra88}}- I'm your girl for all things Almia and Sinnoh!
*{{u|legendarypokemonjunkie17}}- I have adequate knowledge of all cities/towns in all regions, except Fiore.
*[[User:psyclone2|psyclone2]]- LOOOONG time pokemon expert, first time fan contributor. I'll do my best- I have a lot of guides, sites, references, and knowledge to back me up, so I'll do my best!
*[[User:Mario Man|Mario Man]]- Has pretty much gotten all the cities and towns except for johto memorized. including fun facts.
*{{u|PlatinumAdam}}
*[[User:swampert_rox|Swampert]] [[Swampert (Pokémon)|=]] [[User talk:Swampert_rox|awesome]]
*[[User:Ikey_14]]
*{{u|EpicFail}} I'll help with Kanto, Hoenn, Sinnoh and Orre.

===How you can help===
You can help by opening the [[List of cities and towns by name]] and selecting any location in red (which means that there is no article for it yet) and starting that article, or opening any location that you can provide more information about. Additionally, the list itself needs expanding.

Most of the existing city/town articles need to be modified to comply with the project standard (see below). You can check [[:Category:City and town stubs]] to see which articles need expanding.

{{Bulbapedia:Project Cities and Towns/To-do list}}

===Structure===
====Infobox information====
Articles should use the [[Template:Infobox town|Infobox town template]], and all known info should be supplied. An example is demonstrated [[Bulbapedia:Project Cities and Towns#Infobox|here]].

====Main section====
Untitled section that describes the area. Depending on the area, this section may just describe where it is located in the Pokémon world and basic details regarding the area, or may go into considerable detail. Regardless, most text describing the location should be in this section.

====Places of interest====
Any notable locations in the area should be mentioned and briefly described here. If the location has its own article, a link to that article should be given.

====Poké Mart====
'''Only for areas with a Poké Mart'''

A list of items available at the local Poké Mart with prices should be provided, using the [[Template:Mart|Poké Mart template]].

====Pokémon====
'''Only for areas with wild Pokémon within its limits'''

A list of attainable Pokémon in the city. See [[Route 1]] for an example of how the layout should appear. Game corner Pokémon should not be listed here.

====In the anime====
'''Optional'''

Section for noting differences or other items regarding the area in the anime.

====Notes====
'''Optional'''

Place any notes about the area that are worth noting but are not notable enough for inclusion in the main section.

====References====
Place all references here.

====External links====
Place all external links which are not references here.

====Categories====
All articles should use the following category:
*<nowiki>[[Category:(Region) locations]]</nowiki> where (Region) is either [[Kanto]], [[Johto]], [[Hoenn]], [[Sevii Islands|Sevii]], or [[Sinnoh]]

All articles should use the following categories where applicable:
*<nowiki>[[Category:Red, Blue and Yellow locations]]</nowiki>
*<nowiki>[[Category:Gold, Silver and Crystal locations]]</nowiki>
*<nowiki>[[Category:Ruby and Sapphire locations]]</nowiki>
*<nowiki>[[Category:Emerald locations]]</nowiki>
*<nowiki>[[Category:FireRed and LeafGreen locations]]</nowiki>
*<nowiki>[[Category:Diamond and Pearl locations]]</nowiki>
*<nowiki>[[Category:Towns]]</nowiki> ''for towns''
*<nowiki>[[Category:Cities]]</nowiki> ''for cities''

===Goals===
# To organize, standardize, and expand the articles on cities and towns in the Pokémon world.

===List===
The list page for Project Routes is [[List of cities and towns by name]].

===Infobox===
The Infobox to use for this project is [[Template:Infobox town|Infobox town]].

This is the basic syntax you need to get a complete infobox on the article page, just place this before any other text and fill in the variables.
<pre>
{{Infobox town
|town=
|characters=
|japanese=
|image=
|slogan=
|region=
|routes=
|bottom=
|leader=
|badge=
|type=
|map=
|colordark=
|colorlight=
}}
</pre>
{{Infobox town
|town=Celadon City
|characters=タマムシシティ
|japanese=Tamamushi City
|image=Celdaoncity-frlg.png
|slogan=The City of Rainbow Dreams
|region=Kanto
|routes=[[Route 7]] (East) [[Route 16]] (West)
|bottom=gym
|leader=Erika
|badge=Rainbowbadge
|type=Grass
|map=Celadon City.png
|colordark=ACE1AF
|colorlight=D5EFD6
}}
For the above parameters, here's what you should fill in:
*'''town:''' is the name of the town/city/locale
*'''characters:''' is the city name in Japanese characters
*'''japanese:''' is the city name in Japanese
*'''image:''' is the name of the image file name at Bulbagarden Archives
*'''slogan:''' is the official slogan of the town/city/locale
*'''region:''' is the region that the town/city/locale is in
*'''routes:''' is a list of the routes that lead from this area
*'''bottom:''' is either "Gym" for areas with Gyms or "none" if there is no gym
*'''leader:''' (''For bottom=gym only'') is the name of the area's Gym Leader
*'''badge:''' (''For bottom=gym only'') is the name of the Gym's badge
*'''type:''' (''For bottom=gym only'') is the main type of the Gym
*'''map:''' is the name of the image file name of the overview map at Bulbagarden Archives. If no map is available, leave blank
*'''colordark:''' is the color used for the main header of the infobox. Should reflect the town's name, type, etc.
*'''colorlight:''' is the color used for the subheaders of the infobox. Should be a lighter version of the first color

By completing the infobox as follows, you'll get a routebox like the one to the right.
<pre>
{{Infobox town
|town=Celadon City
|characters=タマムシシティ
|japanese=Tamamushi City
|image=Celdaoncity-frlg.png
|slogan=The City of Rainbow Dreams
|region=Kanto
|routes=[[Route 7]] (East) [[Route 16]] (West)
|bottom=gym
|leader=Erika
|badge=Rainbowbadge
|type=Grass
|map=Celadon City.png
|colordark=ACE1AF
|colorlight=D5EFD6
}}
</pre>

 

===Other templates===
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! What to type !! What it makes !! Notes
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| <nowiki>{{</nowiki>[[Template:Project Cities and Towns notice|Project Cities and Towns notice]]<nowiki>}}</nowiki>
| {{Project Cities and Towns notice}}
| To be placed on the '''bottom''' of all articles covered by this project below the article to designate the article as part of this project.
|-
| <nowiki>{{</nowiki>[[Template:User Project Cities and Towns |User Project Cities and Towns]]<nowiki>}}</nowiki>
| {{User Project Cities and Towns}}
| Userbox for participants of this project.
|-
| <nowiki>{{</nowiki>[[Template:Town stub|Town stub]]<nowiki>}}</nowiki>
| <div class="boilerplate metadata" id="townstub">
{| align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" style="background-color: white; border: 1px solid #ccc; padding: 5px; font-size:100%;" class="noprint"
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| ''This [[List of cities and towns by name|city and town]]-related article is a [[Bulbapedia:Find or fix a stub|stub]]. You can [[Bulbapedia:Find or fix a stub|help]] Bulbapedia by [{{SERVER}}{{localurl:{{NAMESPACE}}:{{PAGENAME}}|action=edit}} expanding it]''.
|}</div>
| Designates this article relating to cities and towns as a stub.
|}
</noinclude>

==Other projects==
===Parent project===
The parent of this project is [[Bulbapedia:Project Locations|Project Locations]].

==Subprojects==
No subprojects have been defined.

==Related projects==
Related projects include:
*[[Bulbapedia:Project Routes|Project Routes]]

[[Category:Bulbapedia projects|Cities and Towns]]

Marriland

2009-08-10T17:39:54Z

EpicFail: /* Current staff */ Moved Yello Mit to Global Moderator list.

{{incomplete}}
'''The Marriland Forums''' are a large group of {{wp|internet forum|forums}} popular in the fandom.

==Server issues==
The Marriland Forums have suffered from server problems ever since {{game|Diamond and Pearl|s}} were released in April 2007. This resulted in the server going down for hours at a time, as it couldn't handle the flood of new users.

Due to Marriland's dire situation, in July 2008 Devin began updating the forums from {{wp|phpBB2}} to {{wp|phpBB3}}. After many hours of updates and downtime, the Marriland Forums finished the transition on November 12th. Problems have been decreasing since the update.

==Staff==
===Current staff===
Administrators:
* Marriland - Devin
* Pokemama - Camille

Junior Administrators:
* Houndour
* Teriki Tora

Senior Moderators:
* AzulKitten
* haymaker
* Mozeta
* HypnosProjectHQ

Global Moderators:
* Aqua13
* BonsaiDude
* Daniel
* Dark Shocktail
* DemonicDratini
* DiarugaDude44
* Entei
* Gunther
* HolyMistress
* III MASTER III
* indigo nightbird
* Johnny
* Kawalski
* LuckyLuke5392
* Motokino
* Mr.Crobat
* Pupitar247
* TheUmbreonMonarchy
* Yello Mit
* Zebi

Junior Moderators:
(Have powers only over their specific boards)
* AndyBananny
- Role Playing Corner + sub-forums
* Asphyxia
- Diamond, Pearl, and Platinum + sub-forums
Technology Discussion + sub-forums
* Chaosflare
- General Chat
* Diamondplayer44
- Diamond, Pearl, and Platinum + sub-forums
* ecksplicit
- Pokémon General
Diamond, Pearl, and Platinum + sub-forums
* Firestorm a.k.a. Arcane9
- General Chat + sub-forums
Games and Other Randomness + sub-forums
Pokémon General + sub-forums
* Harrison101
- General Chat + sub-forums
Diamond, Pearl, and Platinum + sub-forums
* HECTOR
- Diamond, Pearl, and Platinum + sub-forums
* Igloo42
- General Chat
Technology Discussion + sub-forums
* Kajjah
- RuneScape
* KOOLIONESSFULL
- Computer / Video Gaming + sub-forums
* LatiasWindBlast
- General Chat
* SpaceGoo
- Pokémon General + sub-forums
Pokémon Main Series Games + sub-forums
Pokémon Spin-off Games + sub-forums
Pokémon Diamond, Pearl, and Platinum + sub-forums

Devin also serves as the webmaster of the forums.

==Service==
===Adopt-A-Newbie!===
The Marriland Forums have a helpful service called "Adopt-A-Newbie!", where newcomers to the forums can go to get a helpful start and some knowledge about the forums and what to do.

The idea for “Adopt-A-Newbie!” was suggested by Marriland Moderator: Pupitar247 on Sep 29, 2007. The idea started running on the forums on Jun 05, 2008.

“Adopt-A-Newbie!” was created by Marriland Senior Moderator: Azulkitten

The service consists of mentors that assist the newbies that come and ask for help.

Newbies pick their Mentors by looking at each of the Mentors application by seeing how much Newbies he can mentor and what guidance the Mentor provides.

Mentors can only mentor Newbies who are working on their green and yellow rank.

After a month the Newbie turns into a “Graduated Newbie” and is put on the Graduated Newbie list.

The “Adopt-A-Newbie!” service has mentored about 40 Newbies so far.

Mentors:
* Azulkitten – Creator & Co-Admin
- General Forum Guidance

* Phantom4722- Co-Admin
- General Forum Guidance & Pokémon Guidance

* KOOLIONESSFULL
- Overall Forum Guidance & Pokémon Guidance

* Chasze
- General Forum Guidance

* Blazaking123
- General Forum Guidance

The “Adopt-A-Newbie!” Service is located in the in “General Forums” section inside the “Introduce Yourself!” forum

“Adopt-A-Newbie!” is accepting applications to become a mentor as of April 17, 2009

==External link==
* [http://www.marriland.com/phpbb/ Marriland Forums]

* [http://pokemon.marriland.com/ PokémonMarriland.com]

* [http://www.marriland.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=269767 The Marriland Wi-Fi Tier List]

* [http://www.marriland.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=96&t=262842 The Marriland Hall of Fame]

{{Project Fandom notice}}
[[Category:Fan sites]]

Bulbapedia:Project Fandom

2009-08-10T14:18:28Z

EpicFail: /* Participants */

[[File:Project Fandom logo.png|right|200px]]
Some Bulbapedia members have formed a [[Bulbapedia:Project|project]] to better organize efforts to write and improve articles about the '''Pokémon Fandom'''. If you would like to help, please inquire on the [[{{NAMESPACE}} talk:{{PAGENAME}}|talk page]] or the [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/forumdisplay.php?f=195 Bulbapedia forum] and see the [[Bulbapedia:Project Fandom/To-do list]].

==Project Fandom==
===Scope and aims===
To cover '''everything''' notable about the Pokémon fandom.

===Participants===
To enter the project, just add your name to the bottom of this list.
* {{u|Murzon}} - Founder
* {{u|Flame alex}}
* {{u|Diby}}
* {{u|DAWN FAN}}
* {{u|ShinjiLover}} - The only user that contributes. .
* {{u|Clarky13}} - Owwww, I'll help too, ShinjiLover.
* {{u|The Great Butler}} - I'll try to help.
* {{u|LucarioSinnoh}} - I'll try...
* {{u|Magesaye}}
* {{u|CuboneKing}}- Uh......
* {{u|Mclena45}} - I'll try to help!
* {{u|9000punch}} - FALCON PAWNCH!!!
* {{u|swampert_rox}} - I'll do anything possible
* {{u|nobledd11}}
* {{u|link}} - if i have time i'll help
* {{u|Ellie}} - I'll do what I can
* {{u|PokeFanPiplup}} - Seems Cool.
* {{u|Suikunserebii}} - I'll do it (meaning whatever I can)!
* {{u|EpicFail}} - I've already started!

===Structure===
All fanon terminology will be in the following format:

:A(n) '''fanon word here''' is a popular term [[fanon|among fans]] used to . . .

<nowiki>{{Project Fandom notice}}</nowiki>

'''For guidelines, see [[HSOWA|here]].'''

All fansite articles will be in the following format:
:'''Fansite here''' is a site about . . .

<nowiki>== History ==</nowiki>

<nowiki>== Site ==</nowiki>

<nowiki>=== First Section ===</nowiki>

<nowiki>=== Second Section ===</nowiki>

<nowiki>== Staff ==</nowiki>

<nowiki>== External Links ==</nowiki>

<nowiki>{{Project Fandom notice}} </nowiki>

'''For a great example of how to create an article on a fansite (not a forum), please visit [[Pokemopolis|here]].'''

All forum articles will be in the following format:
:'''Forum here''' is a forum about . . .

<nowiki>==Site==</nowiki>

<nowiki>==Topics==</nowiki>

<nowiki>===Topic One===</nowiki>

<nowiki>===Topic Two===</nowiki>

<nowiki>==Staff==</nowiki>

<nowiki>==External Links==</nowiki>

<nowiki>{{Project Fandom notice}}</nowiki>

'''For guidelines, see [[PokéCommunity|here]].'''

===Focus===
Anything that deals with Pokémon fandom. This includes the following: Pokémon fansites, Pokémon fanfiction archives, Pokémon fanon terminology, and Fakemon.

===See also===
Other important links here

===Goals===
# To create comprehensive articles on all known Pokémon fandom.
# To inform the public about fansites and the like.
# To ensure every edit made to the fandom is legitimate.

===Infoboxes===
None.

===Other templates===
To place a notice at the bottom of the page, use this:
{{Template|Project Fandom notice}}

And then you will get this:
{{Project Fandom notice}}

To tell everyone you are a part of this project, use this:
{{Template|User Project Fandom}}

And then you will get this:
{{User Project Fandom}}

==Other projects==
===Parent project===
This project has no parent project. 

===Subprojects===
No subprojects have been defined. 

===Related projects===
No related projects have been named. 

[[Category:Bulbapedia projects|F]]

Marriland

2009-08-10T14:10:17Z

EpicFail: /* Server issues */ Marriland, not Mariland! How can anyone not catch that?

{{incomplete}}
'''The Marriland Forums''' are a large group of {{wp|internet forum|forums}} popular in the fandom.

==Server issues==
The Marriland Forums have suffered from server problems ever since {{game|Diamond and Pearl|s}} were released in April 2007. This resulted in the server going down for hours at a time, as it couldn't handle the flood of new users.

Due to Marriland's dire situation, in July 2008 Devin began updating the forums from {{wp|phpBB2}} to {{wp|phpBB3}}. After many hours of updates and downtime, the Marriland Forums finished the transition on November 12th. Problems have been decreasing since the update.

==Staff==
===Current staff===
Administrators:
* Marriland - Devin
* Pokemama - Camille

Junior Administrators:
* Houndour
* Teriki Tora

Senior Moderators:
* AzulKitten
* haymaker
* Mozeta
* HypnosProjectHQ
* Yello Mit

Global Moderators:
* Aqua13
* BonsaiDude
* Daniel
* Dark Shocktail
* DemonicDratini
* DiarugaDude44
* Entei
* Gunther
* HolyMistress
* III MASTER III
* indigo nightbird
* Johnny
* Kawalski
* LuckyLuke5392
* Motokino
* Mr.Crobat
* Pupitar247
* TheUmbreonMonarchy
* Zebi

Junior Moderators:
(Have powers only over their specific boards)
* AndyBananny
- Role Playing Corner + sub-forums
* Asphyxia
- Diamond, Pearl, and Platinum + sub-forums
Technology Discussion + sub-forums
* Chaosflare
- General Chat
* Diamondplayer44
- Diamond, Pearl, and Platinum + sub-forums
* ecksplicit
- Pokémon General
Diamond, Pearl, and Platinum + sub-forums
* Firestorm a.k.a. Arcane9
- General Chat + sub-forums
Games and Other Randomness + sub-forums
Pokémon General + sub-forums
* Harrison101
- General Chat + sub-forums
Diamond, Pearl, and Platinum + sub-forums
* HECTOR
- Diamond, Pearl, and Platinum + sub-forums
* Igloo42
- General Chat
Technology Discussion + sub-forums
* Kajjah
- RuneScape
* KOOLIONESSFULL
- Computer / Video Gaming + sub-forums
* LatiasWindBlast
- General Chat
* SpaceGoo
- Pokémon General + sub-forums
Pokémon Main Series Games + sub-forums
Pokémon Spin-off Games + sub-forums
Pokémon Diamond, Pearl, and Platinum + sub-forums

Devin also serves as the webmaster of the forums.

==Service==
===Adopt-A-Newbie!===
The Marriland Forums have a helpful service called "Adopt-A-Newbie!", where newcomers to the forums can go to get a helpful start and some knowledge about the forums and what to do.

The idea for “Adopt-A-Newbie!” was suggested by Marriland Moderator: Pupitar247 on Sep 29, 2007. The idea started running on the forums on Jun 05, 2008.

“Adopt-A-Newbie!” was created by Marriland Senior Moderator: Azulkitten

The service consists of mentors that assist the newbies that come and ask for help.

Newbies pick their Mentors by looking at each of the Mentors application by seeing how much Newbies he can mentor and what guidance the Mentor provides.

Mentors can only mentor Newbies who are working on their green and yellow rank.

After a month the Newbie turns into a “Graduated Newbie” and is put on the Graduated Newbie list.

The “Adopt-A-Newbie!” service has mentored about 40 Newbies so far.

Mentors:
* Azulkitten – Creator & Co-Admin
- General Forum Guidance

* Phantom4722- Co-Admin
- General Forum Guidance & Pokémon Guidance

* KOOLIONESSFULL
- Overall Forum Guidance & Pokémon Guidance

* Chasze
- General Forum Guidance

* Blazaking123
- General Forum Guidance

The “Adopt-A-Newbie!” Service is located in the in “General Forums” section inside the “Introduce Yourself!” forum

“Adopt-A-Newbie!” is accepting applications to become a mentor as of April 17, 2009

==External link==
* [http://www.marriland.com/phpbb/ Marriland Forums]

* [http://pokemon.marriland.com/ PokémonMarriland.com]

* [http://www.marriland.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=269767 The Marriland Wi-Fi Tier List]

* [http://www.marriland.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=96&t=262842 The Marriland Hall of Fame]

{{Project Fandom notice}}
[[Category:Fan sites]]

List of cross-generational references

2009-08-10T13:43:26Z

EpicFail: /* To Generation I */

The four [[generation]]s of [[Pokémon games]], taking place in the same {{pkmn|world|universe}}, have had multiple references to each other. Not only do the games reference their same-generation counterparts (with the {{player}}'s default name being the version played and the [[rival]]'s being the counterpart version in the first two generations), but games released later in the series typically will feature references to events of past generations.

Please note, of course, that this does not include Pokémon. While Pokémon released in previous generations will always appear, they are not a reference to the generation itself.

==List of references==
===Generation II===
====To Generation I====
* Not only is the [[Kanto]] region a playable area during the games, but several of the events of [[Generation I]] are spoken of as having happened three years previous. Many characters also reappear because of this, though some of them undergo design changes.
* {{ga|Red}}, the player character of the first games, is found training in [[Mt. Silver]] and can be battled.
* {{ga|Blue}}, the rival character of the first games, has become the [[Gym Leader]] of [[Viridian City]]. His team is based on the Pokémon he used in the final battle in {{game|Red and Blue|s}}.
* A man in the [[Violet City]] Pokémon Center states that the former [[Team Rocket]] was broken up by a "{{ga|Red|young kid}}."
* The parents of the Copycat in [[Saffron City]] mention that her Clefairy Doll was given to her by {{ga|Red|a boy}} three years before.
* The {{DL|In-battle effect item|Berserk Gene}}, a held item, is found near the former entrance of the now-collapsed [[Cerulean Cave]], where {{p|Mewtwo}} once hid.
* There is a [[Pokémon doll]] of a {{m|Surf}}ing {{p|Pikachu}} available to decorate the room, which references the special minigame in {{game|Yellow}}.
* A man in [[Cerulean City]] says there used to be [[Cerulean Cave|a cave near the city with powerful Pokémon]].
* If the player checks the poster in the [[Rocket Game Corner]], the player will be informed that there's nothing there, referring to the secret switch under the poster in Generation I.

===Generation III===
====To Generation I====
* [[Brawly]] is said to have once trained alongside [[Bruno]], who is a member of [[Kanto]]'s [[Elite Four]].
* The Oceanic Museum in [[Slateport City]] has two water samples, one of which is from Kanto. Its background music theme is also an arrangement of the S.S. Anne theme.
* {{game|FireRed and LeafGreen|s}} in their entirety are a reference to Generation I's events, while the credit sequence references the [[version mascot]]s of {{v2|Red}}, {{v2|Green}}, [[Pokémon Blue Version (Japanese)|Blue]], and {{v2|Yellow}}.
* On [[Faraway Island]], a series of smudged messages, which may have been left by [[Mr. Fuji]], appear on a [[signpost]].
* A boy in [[Lilycove City]] says that he and his family came from the [[Kanto]] region before he asks if there are any Pokémon found only in the [[Hoenn]] region.

====To Generation II====
* In {{game|Ruby and Sapphire|s}}, the player-controlled character of {{game2|Ruby|Sapphire|Emerald}} is said to have moved at the beginning of the game with his/her family from the [[Johto]] region, the main setting of the Generation II games. (In {{game|Emerald}} the character who said this instead states that the player character's family moved there from a faraway place.)
* The Oceanic Museum in [[Slateport City]] has two water samples, one of which is from Johto.
* A man in [[Mt. Moon]] says that [[Brock]] sometimes helps excavate [[fossil]]s there. This explains how he acquires the {{p|Kabutops}} and {{p|Omastar}} which he uses in the second generation of games.
* At the [[Cerulean Cape]], a dame says [[Misty]] has high hopes about the location, which is known as a famous dating spot. In the second generation of games, she is first encountered there with an unknown male character.
* [[Janine]], [[Koga]]'s daughter and future [[Gym Leader|Leader]] of [[Fuchsia Gym]], appears in [[Fuchsia City]], and tells the player that she is training to use {{t|Poison}} Pokémon like her father. She is misnamed as Charine in the English translation of FireRed and LeafGreen, however.
* The branch of [[Team Rocket]] in the [[Sevii Islands]] seems to be the same branch which attempted to revive Team Rocket during Generation II, with plans to use magnetic waves to evolve Pokémon. Their lead scientist also tells that [[Giovanni]]'s child has red hair, a possible reference to [[Silver (game)|Silver]]. It could also be a reference to the head admin in Johto, pictured on [[Team Rocket's Evil Deeds (Neo Destiny 103)|Team Rocket's Evil Deeds]].
* One of [[Professor Oak]]'s assistants will state that he is to get a [[Professor Oak's Pokémon Talk|radio show]] sometime in the near future.
* [[Celio]] mentions that some members of [[Bill]]'s family live in [[Goldenrod City]].
* A woman on [[Boon Island]] in [[Bruno]]'s section of the [[Fame Checker]] mentions the [[Ragecandybar]].
* [[Whitney]], [[Jasmine]] and [[Pryce]] lookalikes appear as audience members in {{pkmn|Contest}}s.
* The man who digs [[Three Isle Path]] and gives the player a Nugget says that he'd like to buy a house in [[Kanto]]. He likely is the same person who gives away a Nugget in [[Generation II]] in his house on {{rt|2}}.
* The themes used on the [[Sevii Islands]] are remastered versions of Johto's final five routes as well as remastered versions of [[Olivine City]] and [[Cianwood City]].

===Generation IV===
====To Generation I====
* [[Professor Rowan]] is said to have developed the [[Sinnoh Dex]] with help from [[Professor Oak|a Pokémon professor from Kanto]].
* Professor Oak himself comes to [[Sinnoh]] to give the player the [[National Dex]], and can always be found in a house in [[Eterna City]] thereafter. He gives the player an [[Evolution-inducing held item#Up-Grade|Up-Grade]], which was sent to Oak by his acquaintance from [[Kanto]].
* In the gatehouse east of [[Canalave City]] is a guard who complains that he is thirsty, like the guards in Kanto who will allow the [[player character|player]] to enter [[Saffron City]] if they are brought a drink. Unlike those guards, however, this one does not do anything if brought a drink.
* A [[Ninja Boy]] on [[Route 210]] near [[Celestic Town]] says he wants to train with a [[Koga|ninja]] [[Gym Leader]] in a faraway land.
* One of the [[Elite Four]], [[Bertha]], shares a similar name (in Japanese and English) and design to [[Agatha]]. It is possible they are related, or that Bertha was at least modeled after Agatha.
* {{OBP|Black Belt|trainer class}} Eddie from {{OBP|Victory Road|Sinnoh}} mentions that he trained in [[Fighting Dojo]] at {{Ci|Saffron}}.
* In [[Amity Square]], some Pokémon may be let out out of their [[Poké Ball]] to follow their Trainer around. One of the few available is {{p|Pikachu}}, which did the same (however, throughout the game) in {{game|Yellow}}.
* Much like the [[Viridian Gym]], the [[Hearthome Gym]] isn't accessible when the player first arrives in its home city.
* [[Bebe]]'s buddy [[Bill]] is mentioned to have developed the basic storage system.
* [[Veilstone City]] is many ways like [[Celadon City]] of Kanto, both of which are the largest city in their [[region]]. Both have a Game Corner ([[Rocket Game Corner]] in Celadon and [[Veilstone Game Corner]] in Veilstone), a prize exchange shop to accompany the Game Corner, and a [[Department Store]] ([[Celadon Department Store|Celadon Dept.]] in Celadon and [[Veilstone Department Store|Veilstone Dept.]] in Veilstone). The [[Villainous teams|villainous team]] of the region has two headquarters in the city: [[Team Rocket]] has [[Rocket Game Corner]] and [[Rocket Hideout (Celadon City)|Rocket Hideout]] and [[Team Galactic]] has [[Galactic Veilstone Building]] and [[Galactic Warehouse]].
**Also, part of the Veilstone Game Corner music is a techno remix of the Rocket Game Corner music.
* One of {{ga|Lucas}}'s alternate names was Ash in the English versions of {{game|Diamond and Pearl|s}}. This is one of the default names of {{ga|Red}} in the games {{game2|Red|Blue|Yellow}}, {{2v2|FireRed|LeafGreen}}. It may even be a reference to the {{pkmn|anime}}'s [[Ash Ketchum|main character]].
[[File:Nostalgic Wallpaper.png|thumb|Wallpaper]]
* As a direct tribute to the original games, one of the wallpapers has been designed to resemble the design of the [[route]]s of the first games, complete with the graphics and sprites when the games are played on the [[Game Boy Color]], the [[Game Boy Advance]] or the [[Game Boy Advance SP]]. The wallpaper showcases typical features like both types of fences, low and high [[Tall grass|grass]], normal ground, a [[sign]] and a house.
* In [[Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver]], the lead Pokémon in the player's party will follow the [[Player character|player]], much like in {{g|Yellow}}, where the [[Red's Pikachu (game)|starter Pokémon]] follows the [[Red (game)|player]].

====To Generation II====
* A news report of a [[red Gyarados]] begins the game. The cameraman who filmed the documentary appears at the [[Survival Area]].
** In {{v2|Platinum}}, the game instead begins with a report about Professor Rowan. However, the cameraman from the red Gyarados report is seen blocking the entrance to [[Lake Valor]], hoping to get a shot of the {{p|Azelf|legendary Pokémon}} said to live there.
* A man, who gives the player a {{p|Happiny}} {{pkmn|egg}} in {{2v2|Diamond|Pearl}}, says that [[Professor Elm]] recently announced that eggs kept [[party|with a Trainer]] will eventually hatch.
* [[Jasmine]], one of Johto's [[Gym Leader]]s, appears to give the player {{HM|07|Waterfall}}.
* A man in [[Valor Lakefront]] states that he would like to see a {{p|Lugia|silver-colored Pokémon}} that resides in the [[Whirl Islands]], a {{p|Ho-Oh|rainbow-colored Pokémon}} that resides in the [[Tin Tower]], and {{p|Clefairy}} [[Days of the week#Monday|dancing]] in [[Mt. Moon]] sometime during his life.
* A [[Ninja Boy]] on {{Rt|210}} near [[Celestic Town]] says he wants to train with a [[Janine|ninja]] [[Gym Leader]] in a faraway land.
* [[Dragon Tamer]] Hayden on [[Route 224]] mentions that he left [[Dragon's Den]] several years ago.
* The [[Poké Ball]] design on the floor of the Sinnoh Pokémon Centers is colored {{game|Gold and Silver|s|gold and silver}}. Park Balls are also colored gold and silver, and the normally black stripe in the middle is actually a light blue, {{game|Crystal||crystal}}-like color.
* [[Dragon Tamer]] Geoffrey on [[Route 225]] mentions a [[Lance|Dragon Tamer Champion]].
* The {{p|Eevee}} which [[Bebe]] gives to the player was obtained originally from her [[Bill|friend]] in [[Johto]].
* [[Cynthia]], who somehow was able to obtain it (possibly from Jasmine, since she is in Sinnoh), gives the [[SecretPotion]], the medicine from [[Cianwood City]] that cured [[Amphy]] in [[Generation II]], to the player to cure the group of {{p|Psyduck}} blocking [[Route 210]].
* In Stargazer Colosseum in [[Pokémon Battle Revolution]], some of the Pokémon in the last battle depend on which game is linked to the Wii. If Diamond is linked, one of the Pokémon is {{p|Ho-Oh}}, Gold's [[version mascot]], and if Pearl is linked, one of the Pokémon is {{p|Lugia}}, Silver's version mascot.
* When a {{shiny2}} {{p|Clefairy}} appears during a slot game in [[Veilstone Game Corner]], a remixed version of [[Mt. Moon Square]] music from {{3v2|Gold|Silver|Crystal}} is played.
* [[Maylene]]'s Japanese name, スモモ (''Sumomo''), is coincidentally shared by Kuni, a [[Kimono Girl]].
* In {{game|Platinum}}, the [[legendary birds]] can be found roaming Sinnoh following completion of the Sinnoh Dex. This may explain their absence from Kanto in Gold, Silver, and Crystal.
* In Pokémon Platinum, one of the women in the basement floor of the [[Veilstone Department Store]] mentions that the store is sold out of [[Ragecandybar]]s (written as "Rage Candy Bars"), the local specialty in [[Mahogany Town]].
* There are various similarities between Gyms and Gym Leaders between Sinnoh and Johto, including [[Byron]] and [[Jasmine]] being {{type2|Steel}} Gym Leaders and the sixth Gym Leader of their region, and [[Candice]] and [[Pryce]] being {{type2|Ice}} Gym Leaders and the seventh of their region.
* {{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}} in their entirety are a reference to Generation II's events.

====To Generation III====
* A man in [[Hearthome City]], who says he is from the [[Hoenn]] region, will show the player to the [[Contest Hall]], a feature originally introduced in Hoenn.
* A man in [[Valor Lakefront]] states that he would like to see a rocket launch from the Space Center in [[Mossdeep City]] sometime during his life.
* A woman in Valor Lakefront claims to have lost her Suite Key. If the player finds it near the [[Hotel Grand Lake]] using the [[Dowsing Machine]], she will offer a reward of one {{DL|Status ailment healing item|Lava Cookie}}, a specialty of Hoenn, possibly implying that her home is in that region.
* A [[Swimmer]] south of the Valor Lakefront says she would like to vacation in [[Hoenn]] because it has more routes on which to {{m|Surf}}.
* A woman west of [[Pastoria City]] used to work at the [[Weather Institute]] of Hoenn and will give out [[weather conditions|weather]]-changing [[TMs]] for [[Shard]]s.
* An old woman living at the base of [[Stark Mountain]] acts in the same way that another woman does on [[Route 111]] in Hoenn, insisting that the player keep healing his or her Pokémon with her in a creepy manner. Strangely, they both also live just north of a sandstorm-ridden desert.
* A Swimmer north of [[Sunyshore City]] wishes to visit Hoenn's seas.
* A [[Socialite]] in the Valor Lakefront restaurant will occasionally mention the sauce of her dish was made from spicy [[Cheri Berry|Cheri Berries]] with a Hoenn-style recipe.
* [[Bird Keeper]] Audrey on [[Route 225]] says she was born in [[Hoenn]].
* A woman in the {{Si|Battle Tower}} claims to have been from Hoenn, where another {{Ho|Battle Tower}} presides. In Platinum, her reference could mean either the Battle Tower itself or the [[Battle Frontier (Hoenn)|Battle Frontier]] that resided in Hoenn.
* A catalog in [[Rad Rickshaw]]'s Cycle Shop in [[Eterna City]] advertises the [[Mach Bike]] and [[Acro Bike]].
* In Stargazer Colosseum in {{g|Battle Revolution}}, some of the Pokémon in the last battle depend on which game is linked to the Wii. If Diamond is linked, one of the Pokémon is {{p|Groudon}}, Ruby's [[version mascot]], and if Pearl is linked, one of the Pokémon is {{p|Kyogre}}, Sapphire's version mascot.
* The [[Meister|fourteen foreign Pokédex entries]] are all from the respective translated versions of {{game|LeafGreen}}.

==Related articles==
*[[List of cross-canon references]]
*[[Pokémon Gold and Silver remake speculation]]

[[Category:Pokémon meta]]
[[Category:Games]]
[[Category:Lists]]

List of cross-generational references

2009-08-10T13:35:49Z

EpicFail: /* To Generation I */

The four [[generation]]s of [[Pokémon games]], taking place in the same {{pkmn|world|universe}}, have had multiple references to each other. Not only do the games reference their same-generation counterparts (with the {{player}}'s default name being the version played and the [[rival]]'s being the counterpart version in the first two generations), but games released later in the series typically will feature references to events of past generations.

Please note, of course, that this does not include Pokémon. While Pokémon released in previous generations will always appear, they are not a reference to the generation itself.

==List of references==
===Generation II===
====To Generation I====
* Not only is the [[Kanto]] region a playable area during the games, but several of the events of [[Generation I]] are spoken of as having happened three years previous. Many characters also reappear because of this, though some of them undergo design changes.
* {{ga|Red}}, the player character of the first games, is found training in [[Mt. Silver]] and can be battled.
* {{ga|Blue}}, the rival character of the first games, has become the [[Gym Leader]] of [[Viridian City]]. His team is based on the Pokémon he used in the final battle in {{game|Red and Blue|s}}.
* A man in the [[Violet City]] Pokémon Center states that the former [[Team Rocket]] was broken up by a "{{ga|Red|young kid}}."
* The parents of the Copycat in [[Saffron City]] mention that her Clefairy Doll was given to her by {{ga|Red|a boy}} three years before.
* The {{DL|In-battle effect item|Berserk Gene}}, a held item, is found near the former entrance of the now-collapsed [[Cerulean Cave]], where {{p|Mewtwo}} once hid.
* There is a [[Pokémon doll]] of a {{m|Surf}}ing {{p|Pikachu}} available to decorate the room, which references the special minigame in {{game|Yellow}}.
* A man in [[Cerulean City]] says there used to be [[Cerulean Cave|a cave near the city with powerful Pokémon]].
* If the player checks the poster in the [[Rocket Game Corner]], the player will be informed that there's nothing there, referring to the secret switch under the poster in Generation I.

===Generation III===
====To Generation I====
* [[Brawly]] is said to have once trained alongside [[Bruno]], who is a member of [[Kanto]]'s [[Elite Four]].
* The Oceanic Museum in [[Slateport City]] has two water samples, one of which is from Kanto. Its background music theme is also an arrangement of the S.S. Anne theme.
* {{game|FireRed and LeafGreen|s}} in their entirety are a reference to Generation I's events, while the credit sequence references the [[version mascot]]s of {{v2|Red}}, {{v2|Green}}, [[Pokémon Blue Version (Japanese)|Blue]], and {{v2|Yellow}}.
* On [[Faraway Island]], a series of smudged messages, which may have been left by [[Mr. Fuji]], appear on a [[signpost]].
* A boy in [[Lilycove City]] says that he and his family came from the [[Kanto]] region before he asks if there are any Pokémon found only in the [[Hoenn]] region.

====To Generation II====
* In {{game|Ruby and Sapphire|s}}, the player-controlled character of {{game2|Ruby|Sapphire|Emerald}} is said to have moved at the beginning of the game with his/her family from the [[Johto]] region, the main setting of the Generation II games. (In {{game|Emerald}} the character who said this instead states that the player character's family moved there from a faraway place.)
* The Oceanic Museum in [[Slateport City]] has two water samples, one of which is from Johto.
* A man in [[Mt. Moon]] says that [[Brock]] sometimes helps excavate [[fossil]]s there. This explains how he acquires the {{p|Kabutops}} and {{p|Omastar}} which he uses in the second generation of games.
* At the [[Cerulean Cape]], a dame says [[Misty]] has high hopes about the location, which is known as a famous dating spot. In the second generation of games, she is first encountered there with an unknown male character.
* [[Janine]], [[Koga]]'s daughter and future [[Gym Leader|Leader]] of [[Fuchsia Gym]], appears in [[Fuchsia City]], and tells the player that she is training to use {{t|Poison}} Pokémon like her father. She is misnamed as Charine in the English translation of FireRed and LeafGreen, however.
* The branch of [[Team Rocket]] in the [[Sevii Islands]] seems to be the same branch which attempted to revive Team Rocket during Generation II, with plans to use magnetic waves to evolve Pokémon. Their lead scientist also tells that [[Giovanni]]'s child has red hair, a possible reference to [[Silver (game)|Silver]]. It could also be a reference to the head admin in Johto, pictured on [[Team Rocket's Evil Deeds (Neo Destiny 103)|Team Rocket's Evil Deeds]].
* One of [[Professor Oak]]'s assistants will state that he is to get a [[Professor Oak's Pokémon Talk|radio show]] sometime in the near future.
* [[Celio]] mentions that some members of [[Bill]]'s family live in [[Goldenrod City]].
* A woman on [[Boon Island]] in [[Bruno]]'s section of the [[Fame Checker]] mentions the [[Ragecandybar]].
* [[Whitney]], [[Jasmine]] and [[Pryce]] lookalikes appear as audience members in {{pkmn|Contest}}s.
* The man who digs [[Three Isle Path]] and gives the player a Nugget says that he'd like to buy a house in [[Kanto]]. He likely is the same person who gives away a Nugget in [[Generation II]] in his house on {{rt|2}}.
* The themes used on the [[Sevii Islands]] are remastered versions of Johto's final five routes as well as remastered versions of [[Olivine City]] and [[Cianwood City]].

===Generation IV===
====To Generation I====
* [[Professor Rowan]] is said to have developed the [[Sinnoh Dex]] with help from [[Professor Oak|a Pokémon professor from Kanto]].
* Professor Oak himself comes to Sinnoh to give the player the [[National Dex]], and can always be found in a house in [[Eterna City]] thereafter. He gives the player an [[Evolution-inducing held item#Up-Grade|Up-Grade]], which was sent to Oak by his acquaintance from [[Kanto]].
* In the gatehouse east of [[Canalave City]] is a guard who complains that he is thirsty, like the guards in [[Kanto]] who will allow the [[player character|player]] to enter [[Saffron City]] if they are brought a drink. Unlike those guards, however, this one does not do anything if brought a drink.
* A [[Ninja Boy]] on [[Route 210]] near [[Celestic Town]] says he wants to train with a [[Koga|ninja]] [[Gym Leader]] in a faraway land.
* One of the [[Elite Four]], [[Bertha]], shares a similar name (in Japanese and English) and design to [[Agatha]]. It is possible they are related, or that Bertha was at least modeled after Agatha.
* {{OBP|Black Belt|trainer class}} Eddie from {{OBP|Victory Road|Sinnoh}} mentions that he trained in [[Fighting Dojo]] at {{Ci|Saffron}}.
* In [[Amity Square]], some Pokémon may be let out out of their [[Poké Ball]] to follow their Trainer around. One of the few available is {{p|Pikachu}}, which did the same (however, throughout the game) in {{game|Yellow}}.
* Much like the [[Viridian Gym]], the [[Hearthome Gym]] isn't accessible when the player first arrives in its home city.
* [[Bebe]]'s buddy [[Bill]] is mentioned to have developed the basic storage system.
* [[Veilstone City]] is many ways like [[Celadon City]] of Kanto, both of which are the largest city in their [[region]]. Both have a Game Corner ([[Rocket Game Corner]] in Celadon and [[Veilstone Game Corner]] in Veilstone), a prize exchange shop to accompany the Game Corner, and a [[Department Store]] ([[Celadon Department Store|Celadon Dept.]] in Celadon and [[Veilstone Department Store|Veilstone Dept.]] in Veilstone). The [[Villainous teams|villainous team]] of the region has two headquarters in the city: [[Team Rocket]] has [[Rocket Game Corner]] and [[Rocket Hideout (Celadon City)|Rocket Hideout]] and [[Team Galactic]] has [[Galactic Veilstone Building]] and [[Galactic Warehouse]].
**Also, part of the Veilstone Game Corner music is a techno remix of the Rocket Game Corner music.
* One of {{ga|Lucas}}'s alternate names was Ash in the English versions of {{game|Diamond and Pearl|s}}. This is one of the default names of {{ga|Red}} in the games {{game2|Red|Blue|Yellow}}, {{2v2|FireRed|LeafGreen}}. It may even be a reference to the {{pkmn|anime}}'s [[Ash Ketchum|main character]].
[[File:Nostalgic Wallpaper.png|thumb|Wallpaper]]
* As a direct tribute to the original games, one of the wallpapers has been designed to resemble the design of the [[route]]s of the first games, complete with the graphics and sprites when the games are played on the [[Game Boy Color]], the [[Game Boy Advance]] or the [[Game Boy Advance SP]]. The wallpaper showcases typical features like both types of fences, low and high [[Tall grass|grass]], normal ground, a [[sign]] and a house.
* In [[Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver]], the lead Pokémon in the player's party will follow the [[Player character|player]], much like in {{g|Yellow}}, where the [[Red's Pikachu (game)|starter Pokémon]] follows the [[Red (game)|player]].

====To Generation II====
* A news report of a [[red Gyarados]] begins the game. The cameraman who filmed the documentary appears at the [[Survival Area]].
** In {{v2|Platinum}}, the game instead begins with a report about Professor Rowan. However, the cameraman from the red Gyarados report is seen blocking the entrance to [[Lake Valor]], hoping to get a shot of the {{p|Azelf|legendary Pokémon}} said to live there.
* A man, who gives the player a {{p|Happiny}} {{pkmn|egg}} in {{2v2|Diamond|Pearl}}, says that [[Professor Elm]] recently announced that eggs kept [[party|with a Trainer]] will eventually hatch.
* [[Jasmine]], one of Johto's [[Gym Leader]]s, appears to give the player {{HM|07|Waterfall}}.
* A man in [[Valor Lakefront]] states that he would like to see a {{p|Lugia|silver-colored Pokémon}} that resides in the [[Whirl Islands]], a {{p|Ho-Oh|rainbow-colored Pokémon}} that resides in the [[Tin Tower]], and {{p|Clefairy}} [[Days of the week#Monday|dancing]] in [[Mt. Moon]] sometime during his life.
* A [[Ninja Boy]] on {{Rt|210}} near [[Celestic Town]] says he wants to train with a [[Janine|ninja]] [[Gym Leader]] in a faraway land.
* [[Dragon Tamer]] Hayden on [[Route 224]] mentions that he left [[Dragon's Den]] several years ago.
* The [[Poké Ball]] design on the floor of the Sinnoh Pokémon Centers is colored {{game|Gold and Silver|s|gold and silver}}. Park Balls are also colored gold and silver, and the normally black stripe in the middle is actually a light blue, {{game|Crystal||crystal}}-like color.
* [[Dragon Tamer]] Geoffrey on [[Route 225]] mentions a [[Lance|Dragon Tamer Champion]].
* The {{p|Eevee}} which [[Bebe]] gives to the player was obtained originally from her [[Bill|friend]] in [[Johto]].
* [[Cynthia]], who somehow was able to obtain it (possibly from Jasmine, since she is in Sinnoh), gives the [[SecretPotion]], the medicine from [[Cianwood City]] that cured [[Amphy]] in [[Generation II]], to the player to cure the group of {{p|Psyduck}} blocking [[Route 210]].
* In Stargazer Colosseum in [[Pokémon Battle Revolution]], some of the Pokémon in the last battle depend on which game is linked to the Wii. If Diamond is linked, one of the Pokémon is {{p|Ho-Oh}}, Gold's [[version mascot]], and if Pearl is linked, one of the Pokémon is {{p|Lugia}}, Silver's version mascot.
* When a {{shiny2}} {{p|Clefairy}} appears during a slot game in [[Veilstone Game Corner]], a remixed version of [[Mt. Moon Square]] music from {{3v2|Gold|Silver|Crystal}} is played.
* [[Maylene]]'s Japanese name, スモモ (''Sumomo''), is coincidentally shared by Kuni, a [[Kimono Girl]].
* In {{game|Platinum}}, the [[legendary birds]] can be found roaming Sinnoh following completion of the Sinnoh Dex. This may explain their absence from Kanto in Gold, Silver, and Crystal.
* In Pokémon Platinum, one of the women in the basement floor of the [[Veilstone Department Store]] mentions that the store is sold out of [[Ragecandybar]]s (written as "Rage Candy Bars"), the local specialty in [[Mahogany Town]].
* There are various similarities between Gyms and Gym Leaders between Sinnoh and Johto, including [[Byron]] and [[Jasmine]] being {{type2|Steel}} Gym Leaders and the sixth Gym Leader of their region, and [[Candice]] and [[Pryce]] being {{type2|Ice}} Gym Leaders and the seventh of their region.
* {{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}} in their entirety are a reference to Generation II's events.

====To Generation III====
* A man in [[Hearthome City]], who says he is from the [[Hoenn]] region, will show the player to the [[Contest Hall]], a feature originally introduced in Hoenn.
* A man in [[Valor Lakefront]] states that he would like to see a rocket launch from the Space Center in [[Mossdeep City]] sometime during his life.
* A woman in Valor Lakefront claims to have lost her Suite Key. If the player finds it near the [[Hotel Grand Lake]] using the [[Dowsing Machine]], she will offer a reward of one {{DL|Status ailment healing item|Lava Cookie}}, a specialty of Hoenn, possibly implying that her home is in that region.
* A [[Swimmer]] south of the Valor Lakefront says she would like to vacation in [[Hoenn]] because it has more routes on which to {{m|Surf}}.
* A woman west of [[Pastoria City]] used to work at the [[Weather Institute]] of Hoenn and will give out [[weather conditions|weather]]-changing [[TMs]] for [[Shard]]s.
* An old woman living at the base of [[Stark Mountain]] acts in the same way that another woman does on [[Route 111]] in Hoenn, insisting that the player keep healing his or her Pokémon with her in a creepy manner. Strangely, they both also live just north of a sandstorm-ridden desert.
* A Swimmer north of [[Sunyshore City]] wishes to visit Hoenn's seas.
* A [[Socialite]] in the Valor Lakefront restaurant will occasionally mention the sauce of her dish was made from spicy [[Cheri Berry|Cheri Berries]] with a Hoenn-style recipe.
* [[Bird Keeper]] Audrey on [[Route 225]] says she was born in [[Hoenn]].
* A woman in the {{Si|Battle Tower}} claims to have been from Hoenn, where another {{Ho|Battle Tower}} presides. In Platinum, her reference could mean either the Battle Tower itself or the [[Battle Frontier (Hoenn)|Battle Frontier]] that resided in Hoenn.
* A catalog in [[Rad Rickshaw]]'s Cycle Shop in [[Eterna City]] advertises the [[Mach Bike]] and [[Acro Bike]].
* In Stargazer Colosseum in {{g|Battle Revolution}}, some of the Pokémon in the last battle depend on which game is linked to the Wii. If Diamond is linked, one of the Pokémon is {{p|Groudon}}, Ruby's [[version mascot]], and if Pearl is linked, one of the Pokémon is {{p|Kyogre}}, Sapphire's version mascot.
* The [[Meister|fourteen foreign Pokédex entries]] are all from the respective translated versions of {{game|LeafGreen}}.

==Related articles==
*[[List of cross-canon references]]
*[[Pokémon Gold and Silver remake speculation]]

[[Category:Pokémon meta]]
[[Category:Games]]
[[Category:Lists]]

Talk:Main Page/Archive 8

2009-08-10T13:18:37Z

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* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 4|Archive 4]]
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* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 7|Archive 7]]

== Pokémon PC Master ==

Bulbapedia has [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pokémon_PC_Master this information] about the game and Wikipedia has [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pokémon_PC_Master this information] about the same game. Which one is correct? I'd assume Wikipedia is correct because I've seen the Japanese version of [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/The_Mastermind_of_Mirage_Pokémon ''The Mastermind of Mirage Pokémon''] and in the commercials before the episode started, there was one announcing Pokémon PC Master and it corresponds to what Wikipedia sintectically says about its purpose. It had a [http://www.pokemon-pcmaster.com/ website] but it no longer works -- [http://web.archive.org/web/20071001114406/http://www.pokemon-pcmaster.com/ here] you can find the most recent copy of the website available on the Internet Archive. Please help me figure out so the article can be corrected. [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 16:30, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
:BTW, I've found [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pokémon_games_for_PC this] on Wikipedia. [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 16:43, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

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Can someone help me with this issue, please? [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 14:05, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

== what happened to project overgrow? ==

the next part of it was supposed to be announced yesterday [[User:Ultamatecharizard|Ultamate]][[User Talk:Ultamatecharizard|Charizard]] 14:06, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
:Tomorrow... [[User:MathijsP|MathijsP]] 16:24, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
::Patience is a virtue. And silence is golden. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 09:36, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
:::And we're somewhat behind schedule. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 09:42, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
::::Yeah i didnt get the whole Project Overgrow thing. Is it over? --Usyflad10 23:11, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

==About a New Shipping==
I thought of a new shipping and I don't know how to make it or start it. May somebody help me or work with me to make it?[[User:Tandra88|Tandra88]] 22:11, 27 March 2009 (UTC)tandra88

== 403 Error ==

Not sure where to post this, but usually, and on a daily basis, the first few times I try to load up this Wiki, I get an Access Forbidden & 403 error. Is this a server-related problem? Does the website not work at certain times during the day? [[User:QTR|QTR]] 23:48, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
:That just means that the server is currently down, and is being repaired. Not to worry, it's not uncommon. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User Talk:Theryguy512|512]]''' 23:50, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
::Well it happened about 30 minutes ago or so, not sure exactly how long, that's just a guess-timate. About 5 minutes later, I was able to connect. [[User:QTR|QTR]] 23:50, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
:::Yeah, it's off and on as our webmaster tries to find a permanent fix to the problem. It's been down recently due to the large number of edits you guys have all been making. So, just wait it out. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 02:05, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

== Wait... ==

Why are the tags <sc></sc> visible on the second and bottom headers? -[[User:Jayc|Jayc]] 14:53, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
:Bulbawiki is glitchy at the moment, so you might really see something wrong, and that includes codes that are not working. '''►[[User:Kevzo8|Ҝə]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|υz]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|ø8]]''' 14:55, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

::Just for the record, the tags made visible by the glitch allow text to be displayed in <sc>{{wp|small caps}}</sc>, allowing characters to be inputted in lowercase, but be displayed in uppercase at the same height as a typical lowercase character (i.e. "a" is a typical lowercase character, but "b" isn't due to its height). --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 14:59, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

== Classification? ==

Something came to my mind a few days ago, how do we classify the Pokémon games? RPG, or JRPG? I mean, technically, they'd be JRPG's right, seeing as they're made in Japan, and not only that but are similar in many ways too other JRPG's. Like the battle systems, the only difference is in most JRPG's you play humans, but in Pokémon you play a human, and through them you command the Pokémon. What do you guys think? [[User:Takoto|~~Takoto]] - [[User_talk:Takoto|サソデイ]] 12:19, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

:Either way, they're still RPGs; "JRPG" is sort of a sub-category within that. If you made a duplicate of Pokémon in the 'States, it would just be a RPG, not a JRPG (despite sharing all the styles and gameplay). So I think we can just avoid the confusion and/or debate on that topic right there by simply classifying it as an RPG. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 13:18, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

::Technically it's a console RPG, but that term is now archaic. [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 18:17, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

== I had to cheat it to get me confirmed ==

Why do you have to be email-confirmed and a logged-in user to edit pages here? Other wikis let you edit anonymously or without being email-confirmed. --[[User:HideInTheDark|HideInTheDark]] 02:42, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
:Because we don't want morons coming by and vandalizing. Makes it a lot harder to vandalize if you have to register sock emails, since then only the hardcore trolls go through with it. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:46, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
::Ditto what the Echidna-in-chief said about the socks, but also, because we don't want to be like [http://pokemon.wikia.com/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_Wiki other wikis] and have hordes of badly maintained articles. This way, we know that anyone who wants to contribute is serious about it (or should be serious), and we can have the ''best'' information ever. It also lets us know who says what, and issue punishments and rewards occasionally and accordingly. What have you got to complain about though, you've got your account. Now, go edit the mainspace! *brushes you away with a broom* :P — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 02:50, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

== I want a ==

I want a golden Slowpoke. Can I make a horrible page on purpose to get it? --I [[User:HideInTheDark|hide in the dark]]! 02:37, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

:No! Stop asking.--[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''ュウ!''']] 02:38, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

== Firefox: problem? ==

Why does Bulbapedia look curvy in Firefox? It appears fine in IE and Opera. Here's a [http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/oo102/Satoshi2000/bulbapedia_firefox.png screenshot] that may be helpful to better understand the problem. [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 13:59, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
:You have it backwards, the problem is that it's NOT curvy in IE and Opera. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|You enter a poorly lit room...]] 13:56, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
::That's right. The problem only seems to occur in Firefox. [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 13:59, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
:::OOPS! Sorry, I misread what you said. So it's supposed to look that way (i.e., curvy)? [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 14:03, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
::::Yes. IE and Opera lack the coding to form curved borders, so only Firefox can view it. '''[[User:Optimatum|Θρtιmαtum]][[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]] 14:01, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
:::::OK, now I understand the reason for that behavior. Thanks! ^_^ [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 14:03, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

::::::Different people have different stances on how the corners are best rendered. Just because one browser curves the corners and another doesn't doesn't mean it looks outright horrible in either browser. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 15:18, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

::::::Actually, there is a nifty HTML trick for rounded edges that works in IE. Here's the article: http://www.alistapart.com/articles/customcorners [[User:PhoenixGraphix|Phoenix]] 21:18, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
:::::::We'll need to talk to the people who make MediaWiki for that. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:52, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

== Disambiguation ==

When I typed in Prinplup, I got a disambig page. Should I make that page Prinplup (disambiguation), make [[Prinplup]] a redirect, and put "for other uses, see Prinplup (disambiguation)" on [[Prinplup (Pokémon)]]? [[User:Theininen|Thein]][[User talk:Theininen|inen]] 15:45, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
:No, this has been the system since the beginning, and it will not be changing. We've had polls, discussions, and arguements, and we have decided that the system we have now is the best and it won't ever be changing. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 15:48, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
::OK, thanks, I haven't been around for a while, so I wasn't sure what the policy was. [[User:Theininen|Thein]][[User talk:Theininen|inen]] 15:50, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
:::You should have still known, this has been the policy since the beginning. I even checked for proof for you to read why. [[Bulbapedia talk:Disambiguation poll]] and even the thread on the forums [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/showthread.php?t=30346 here]. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 15:56, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
::::No, I meant I forgot. Thanks though, I'll read those. [[User:Theininen|Thein]][[User talk:Theininen|inen]] 16:01, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

== Wow, no one's asked yet! ==

I'm surprised that no one's questioned ''at all'' why the Main Page is now pink and blue! '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:17, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

:Why is it? --'''[[User:Prongs|Prongs]] '''([[User Talk:Prongs|Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Prongs|Contributions]])''' 08:19, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

:: YOU'RE PREGNANT AND YOU HAD TWINS, A BOY AND A GIRL? --'''[[User:Darkeiya|Darkeiya]]''' ''[[User talk:Darkeiya|talk to me!]]'' 08:19, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
:::I questioned it to myself, but found the answer by looking at the [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Template:Main_Page&curid=63661&diff=740671&oldid=719799 history of the template]. Maybe everyone else is as self-discovering and clever. Or blind? --[[User:DarkfireTaimatsu|DarkfireTaimatsu]] 08:21, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
::::Maybe they know it already, or they go directly to the RC not the Main Page. Happy anniversary DP in US. =] the page's so bright!'''◄[[User:Kevzo8|Kev]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|zo8]]►''' 08:22, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
:::::Well, it'll have a more green theme next Friday, rather than today. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:41, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
::::::The green hurts my eyes. - '''[[User:Flex_S|Flex]][[Special:Contributions/Flex_S|__]][[User_talk:Flex_S|S]]''' 22:27, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
:::::::It's only for a day. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:51, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

== Extending the wiki for the Spanish language ==

Will it possible to create an extension of this wiki for the Spanish language at the international level?. The Spanish used to be that used in [[wp:Hispanic America|Hispanic America]], and the names of characters, places and others are the same as used in United States. --[[User:Toonamimaniacolatino|Toonamimaniacolatino]] 16:59, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

:There is already at least one Spanish Pokémon Wiki already running, [http://poketeca.com/wiki/Portada pokéteca], so for us to create such an extension at this point would just be more work; it's much easier to simply contribute to one of the Spanish Wikis that's already active. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 17:59, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
::The Pokéteca wiki is a wiki in Spanish, but this is not edited by users in Latin America, is edited by users of Spain, so the names of characters (such as May, in Spain is called Aura), and other cities are not the same as used in Latin America. While in Spain they changed the names to the characters, not in Latin America because the Pokémon video games that come to this region come from the United States and remain unchanged. We want a wiki where Spanish is not using the nomenclature given in Spain if not the ones used in Latin America (which are the same as those used in United States). --[[User:Toonamimaniacolatino|Toonamimaniacolatino]] 18:34, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

:::Last I checked, Wikipedia had only one Spanish variation. Trust me, there is no way to completely satisfy Spanish speakers in all parts of the world with just one wiki.

:::Regardless of how Spanish-language affiliation for [[Encyclopaediae Pokémonis]] turns out (unless there's two Spanish wikis, and even then there'd need to be two different inter-wiki prefixes), there's still going to be focus problems. To avoid complete alienation of a group of Spanish-speakers, be it those in Latin America or those on the Iberian Peninsula, there should at least be redirects from other variations of the language as well as slight mentions of them on the pages, be they Latin America-based redirects on a Spain-focused wiki or Spain-based redirects on a Latin America-based wiki. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 18:43, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

::::You know that Wikipedia in Spanish used only one classification, which is the United States? is being implemented policies titles convention and use common sense. The names used in the United States are better known than the names of any other country (including Spain) and why this is being implemented. To redirect and put other things besides just the people of Spain is foolish for them not only is Spain and Latin America. The main idea of a wiki is in Spanish that is targeted for the whole world (not just Latin America and Spain, although the latter always change the names) and nomenclature used is the same as used Bulbapedia, the United States. --[[User:Toonamimaniacolatino|Toonamimaniacolatino]] 19:03, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

:::::Pokéteca besides, there is another wiki in spanish called [http://es.pokemon.wikia.com/wiki/WikiDex Wikidex] , but like the first, is a wiki Wikidex edited by users of Spain, so their contents only revolves around them (apparently they do not know that there Latin America). Bulbapedia that would be good to do a version of yourself in Spanish or even better make another wiki in Spanish but with the same format as the bulbapedia (with the same names of characters, places, etc.) and not use anything that has to do with Spain and forming part of [[Encyclopaediae Pokémonis]]. --[[User:Toonamimaniacolatino|Toonamimaniacolatino]] 21:49, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

::::::Correction '''''there are''''' editors from around Central America (South to be exact) in PokeTeca. And WikiDex is Wikia we do not include Wikia part of EP. Anyways, stop complaining about it being Iberian Spanish if you have a problem '''''make redirects''''' over there or talk to one of their admins. And Wikipedia is not always the best resource for Pokémon infomation.--[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''ュウ!''']] 23:58, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Used vosotros y despues me habled. :D '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:48, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
::::::::Well, whatever, there is no use talking to them that for them there is only Spain and nothing more. If you intend to do a wiki Pokémon in Spanish, this should be neutral and use the international names, ie names used in USA. --[[User:Toonamimaniacolatino|Toonamimaniacolatino]] 17:40, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::I love the irony in that statement. As do the Germans and the French, I'm sure. If you think it's a problem, go and talk to their administrators. We can't do anything about what language they include. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 20:03, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::The same thing would have to been done to the Portuguese wiki, which is more focused on the Brazilian part than the Portuguese part. [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 19:12, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::::That isn't true, Toonamimaniacolatino, there're latinamerican administrators and pokétecarios in Pokéteca working in the wiki, so ... for us there isn't only Spain and nothing more but I think that if the wiki is in spanish we have to use the spanish names (like other wikis in other languages use their languages) because in Latinamerica the game arrives unfortunately from USA whitout translations. However, I understand the problem for LA with the names and we'll see what can we do. --[[User:Habieru|Habieru]] 15:52, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::::Habieru, that's not the point they have not also want to make changes that Pokéteca a wiki is managed by the Pkstation fansite, which is administered by Spanish Do you know what I mean? Better or try to make the effort to talk to the Spaniards is to waste time, plus they do not like the idea of using the names used in the U.S. Is there any objection by the fact that games come fully into English for the Latin American region? I do not see any further dubbing anime in Spanish which is done for the region Latin America Mexico, is based on the games that come in English and that there is any problem in creating a wiki in Spanish that is subject to Bulbapedia. --[[User:Toonamimaniacolatino|Toonamimaniacolatino]] 00:35, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
:(reset indent) Just an FYI, Habieru ''is'' the administration on Pokéteca, more or less. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 07:46, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
::
Well, I do not think this is the solution to the problem. --[[User:Toonamimaniacolatino|Toonamimaniacolatino]] 14:59, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
: I'd love to help with this but... I don't know, I don't think a lot of you mmmm americans (I mean from USA) would like to give us that mmmm I don't know If I know how to explain myself on this...: but this wiki is supposed to be, well... in English, and even though I loooooooooove being mexican{{tt|,|and speak Spanish}} I'm very proud of it, I don't really think it's a good idea to make '''all''' the articles in spanish, too, because the're a lot and besides we don't really need them (well those who doesn't know English would love this page had spanish things too but that's what those other pages well... exist for, right?) even if they aren't as good as Bulbapedia, I'm not trying to offend them, but really, I used to check wikidex long ago but then I found this and sticked to it becuase I thought (and I still think I'm right) this is more complete and better writen and all. But I think I'm missing the point :D. No, If we really needed one Bulbapedia in Spanish hmmmmm well, I think it's a difficult toppic, a lot of people should keep discussing this until we get a conclusion. If the answer is "Yes, lets do a Bulbapedia in Spanish!" then count on me!! But if the answer is not... I wouldn't be sad anyway, cause I don't think it's reaaaaally needed. That's what I think, please lets talk about this more, don't leave it like that![[User:YukitoOoO|YukitoOoO]] 22:26, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

:I may be wrong but, PokéTeca has been slated... so there's on Pokémon Wiki in Spanish. --[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''ュウ!''']] 23:05, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

::I do not think it correct to say that Pokèteca is officially a wiki in Spanish when their information is poor, little, makes a bad use of classifications that are not officers, who are only known within a European country and that their way of disseminated the information is not so neutral, I mean they do not implement or do not know what the [[wp:Wikipedia:Neutral point of view|Neutral point of view]] is that every wiki should have. But in recent days I have been talking to a webmaster of a fansite Pokémon in Latin America and told me he has been working with its friends in the development of a wiki in Spanish in which they can use the nomenclature of USA. This news made me fell so good I decided to be part of this. We are polishing and doing everything necessary to make this wiki its debut next month is in July. We have great hopes with this wiki and can move faster than any other Spanish wiki Pokemon has been seen and if possible, be a part of PE. This wiki is based on Bulbapedia (information from the articles, of course) and use that spirit of seriousness of Wikipedia so we can succeed in this project is to come. --[[User:Toonamimaniacolatino|Toonamimaniacolatino]] 22:49, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
:::I think that if Pokéteca is a spanish wiki we have to use the official spanish nomenclature, in other words, the names used in Spain. We can search a solution but... what solution? If somebody plays the game in english, I think that he can read Bulbapedia. But if somebody plays the game in spanish, he can't read a spanish wiki with english nomenclature, he needs a wiki with spanish nomenclature. Respect to the information of Pokéteca is 'poor and little'... it's logical, Pokéteca has only 8 months online but there're people working hard in Pokéteca... Rome was not built in one day. The only solution that I see is create a Latin America wiki, but as I said, I don't see this logical.--[[User:Habieru|Habieru]] 02:22, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
::::Are the games released in Latin America really that much different from the Spanish counterparts? Or are they just the English games NOA sends to all of North America, saying "screw off, Quebec and Mexico", while Spain gets games in Spanish? Creating a Latin American wiki just for that would be stupid, really, as would it be if we created a Commonwealth English wiki and an American English wiki. Special Defense isn't altered in the UK or Australia to Special Defence, so yeah. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:38, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
:::::No, the games realeased in Latin America, at least in Mexico, are the same from the USA, the thing here is that is someone in mexico needs a little help with his game and knows only a little English -enough- to play a game, but not to finish it, is going to have some a lot of trouble and he's going to need help, but if he goes to Poketeca or Wikidex that info may not be good enough, or different as they change the name of the moves and cities (obviously names of people and others) that may confuse him. What would be good in that case is to have and Spanish-written Encyclopedia, good for visitors form Latin America, that gets things from USA, that is {{tt|"Bulbapedia en español, la enciclopedia de Pokémon mas completa"|"Bulbapedia in Spanish, the most complete Pokémon encyclopedia"}}. THAT is what we're trying to get. See my point? because if he needs help and goes to say, Wikidex and he finds out he needs to go to "{{tt|Ciudad Calagua|Lylicove City}}" he won't know were the heck is taht :D. I '''reaaaaaaaaaaally''' think it's a good idea make another better encyclopedia for Pokémon fans from Latin America. [[User:YukitoOoO|YukitoOoO]] 04:20, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
::::::Yea, the games are in English are all over North America. But there's also redirects you can create. Also, as TTE said do we have a Commonwealth English wiki and an American English wiki? Yeah, English cities and characters are the same in all English versions. The point is a Bulbapedia in Spanish? That's what PokéTeca is. So the idea of a Latin American Spanish Wiki seems really dumb [retarded] as there already is one. Just create redirects to the Spanish names of the cities/characfters or go ask for the pages to also relate to the Latin American names to prevent any other confusion. --[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''ュウ!''']] 04:36, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
:::::::These CoolPikachu wrong. As you are Spanish and you're one of those users who manages Pokéteca, you put in a position of opposition. As I said at Pokéteca not believe in a wiki such as Spanish for the reasons mentioned above in addition to being administered by the Spanish, are closed with that stupid idea that these are the official names, they should be so when it is not correct. Are formal names, but only known within a European country, no other country but also all known names such translations are made by Nintendo Europe misconceptions that many of them are meaningless names that are not consistent with history as it should be. If you want a wiki in Spanish Pokémon, it must be neutral and use a nomenclature which is universally known that in this case are the names of USA. Why is it necessary to use the names of USA? 2 very important reasons. 1. They are the official names are designated by Nintendo and Pokémon USA are disseminated to the rest of the world, especially when it comes to the anime series. However, in Europe in general, as they are accustomed to doing them in wins, is dedicated to changing the names of characters and others is not something that seems right. 2. Latin America a region formed by a broad group of countries that speak Spanish but it handles things better, while Spain is a country which not only share similar customs with any other country. What is preferable? Use familiar names at the universal level, or using names known only within a single country while for a large region such as Latin America are not? Please realize just this question. What is more known, "Dragon Ball" or "Bola de Dragon"? As mentioned, I am part of a wiki, well I'm wrong with the date that this would debut in July but just debuted last week. This wiki is called [http://wiki.pkstadium.com "PkStadium Wiki"] which is managed by [http://www.pkstadium.com/ PkStadium], a Latin American fansite. As mentioned, the wiki using the nomenclature of USA, is subject to several policies that are used on wikis like Wikipedia, and in turn be given the freedom to use the contents of Bulbapedia for further information on the wiki and see if there the opportunity to be part of PE. --[[User:Toonamimaniacolatino|Toonamimaniacolatino]] 02:26, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::::Um. CP's Californian. He lives in the US and is in fact Latino. Like has been said before, what's so hard about using a wiki's internal redirect system? We don't plan on starting a commonwealth English version of BP, just so we can change the names of stuff like Special Defense to [[Special Defence]], or so the [[list of Pokémon by colour]] can have a u. That's just bollocks.
::::::::I know, PUSA severely screwed up when it came to the Spanish translation of the games, but Spanish is Spanish. You may not use vosotros at all in Latin America, but likewise, we don't have internet ''connexions'' in the US. Doesn't mean much of anything.
::::::::Also, as for the names being known more... um. That'd be like commanding Game Freak to start putting the games in English by default, since only Japan speaks Japanese. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 09:37, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

== Pokémon that can learn TMs ==

I've seen on a few move pages, like [[Frustration]], that "'''All''' Pokémon that can learn TMs can learn this move", so wouldn't it be a good idea to have a list or category of all pokémon that can learn TMs, and conversely a list or category of pokémon that can't learn TMs (like Magikarp). [[User:Jmvb|Jmvb]] 08:15, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
:Eh, I dunno. Most people will get it when they try to use Frustration on something useless like the karp. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:50, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
::I believe a "Pokémon that cannot learn any TMs" category could be really nice, for the sake of trivia. It's not hard to put together. [[User:Mr. Charlie|Mr. ]][[User talk:Mr. Charlie|Charlie]] 02:21, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
:::I believe they are Caterpie, Metapod, Weedle, Kakuna, Magikarp, Ditto, Unown, Wobbuffet, Wurmple, Silcoon, Cascoon, Wynaut, Burmy, Combee and Kricketot. Correct me if I'm wrong. [[User:Mr. Charlie|Mr. ]][[User talk:Mr. Charlie|Charlie]] 02:32, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
:::: There's also Beldum [[User:Jmvb|Jmvb]] 14:40, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
::::: There's also Smeargle and Feebas. [[User:EpicFail|EpicFail]] 19:56, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
::::::Smeargle yes. Feebas no. If I've missed anyone else, see [[Talk:TM|here]]. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:18, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
::::::: Whoops. If Feebas didn't know TMs, it would be a Magikarp. [[User:EpicFail|EpicFail]] 13:18, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

==The White Rocks==

I think we should have an article that explains the white rocks shown in different riegons. It could include the confusion over Kanto's white rock, and it could explain that Hoenn has a white rock, but it doesn't seem to be important, etc. [[User:Igglybuff63|Igglybuff63]] 00:36, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
:There are two white rocks... one in Hoenn and one in Sinnoh... so what? That's not only on the GSDS page, but the one in Sinnoh is already explained in multiple articles pertaining to it's event. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 00:41, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
::The one in Hoenn isn't polished and shiny and crap. HGSS will show us what Oak meant... and likely give us the item Rowan's Letter. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:09, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

== Missing articles about the beta stage of games ==

Should articles about the beta of Pokémon Blue, Pokémon Yellow and Pokémon Crystal be made? Besides the beta article about HG/SS, since we only know that the games will be launched and with the first details to come in a few hours, these should be created. I made the question on the main article of the betas discussion page but haven't got an answer yet. I can help with research but first I'll need to know which tools to use. =P [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 17:53, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
:You didn't read it very well did you? R/G is practically the beta of Blue & Yellow, and G/S is basically the R/G for Crystal. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 18:19, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
::So? Emerald got its beta article, hasn't it? Thus, it makes sense to have, at least, an article about the beta of Crystal. [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 18:22, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
:::I realized that after I said that, but unless you know how to get the beta info for Crystal and Yellow, then the pages aren't gonna happen any time soon. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 18:26, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
::::That's the problem. I don't know how to get that information. But I'm interested in knowing, so if somebody can help me, I'll be very grateful. ;) [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 18:29, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
:::::I don't have a Gameshark or even the skills to hack everything out of Yellow. But I still don't think that we need one for them. Yellow was a special game, not really a third version, and Crystal is really not changed much from G/S, except for the storyline tweaks. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 18:32, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
::::::You still got VBA for some reason. Even so, I'm curious to know that. I think people didn't look for it because they considered the games too similar but it's no less interesting to find something about the changes. And I know that Yellow was a special version instead of a third version (although this only counts for Japan; it's considered a third version elsewhere). Still, it'd be thoughtful to at least try to find beta tracks of the mechanics that Game Freak used to make Pikachu the only Pokémon availabe outside of its Poké Ball as well as the basic happiness system. [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 18:45, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
:::::::VBA? And for the beta, somebody else here'll have to do it. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 18:50, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
::::::::Yes, the GBA emulator. And although it seems to be frustrating, I agree with you when it comes to who should make the research. :S [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 18:54, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

== Artwork ==

Should templates for the different artworks be created? I mean, throughout the years and generations, new artwork is made, so it should be good to have them all grouped, since it's more information that is present (and it's relevant, IMO). [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 18:07, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
:Yes, that's a great idea! If each Pokémon has a sprite template then I don't see why they can't have ones for artwork as well. The only problem is I don't really have enough knowledge of wikicode to make something like that just yet. Can someone help make one? [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 15:57, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
::if this wiki use semantic and semantic gallery, you can simple make a gallery of the artwork of one pokemon or something like that .. --[[User:Hanmac|Hanmac]]
:::We have links on each Pokémon infobox "Artwork on Bulbagarden Archives" That is where we show them. It makes it easier for us, because we aren't cramming hundreds of artworks onto the already filled pages. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 17:14, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

== Project Overgrow - Final stage ==

So HG/SS is slowing down the admin team, huh? Just kidding. =P But when we'll know the final step to complete Project Overgrow? [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 20:23, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
:When they feel like it, of course. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|You enter a poorly lit room...]] 20:25, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
::I imagine it'll be reopening the NFAs. --'''[[User:Alpha Totodile|Alpha]] [[Special:Contributions/Alpha Totodile|Totodile]][[User Talk:Alpha Totodile|RWAR!!]]''' 20:33, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
:::OK then. But since it's been a while since the article about it refers that phase V is going to be announced soon, I thought they should've announced it by now. [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 20:36, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
::::Mainly it's server issues that've been messing things up. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 09:01, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

== User Page Disaster!!! ==

What's happened to my user page? It's completely gone! It took ages to put it together and now I've got to start it all over again :( Is it because I went on holiday and didn't edit it for a while? [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 10:43, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
:it's.... fine.... the stuff is still there....--[[User:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Ho-Oh (Pokémon)|orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Lugia (Pokémon)|ire]] 10:45, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
::Yep, true. It's completely fine. Try refreshing the page. Maybe it refused to load. '''[[User:Kevzo8|Kev]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|zo8]]''' 10:46, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
:::Wikis been going crazy for a while. Hit refresh and it will be fine.--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 10:50, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
::::Ah yes, it's back again now! Sorry to bother you! [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 10:43, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

== ?? ==

Is anybody else having a problem with saving pages? I've had to save new users' talk pages to get the welcome on two or three times each, and I can't use preview, or else it goes to the "Editing Page" thing, for when you edit the whole page instead of a section. Just like what it did now, except I used save page... '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 22:02, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
:Yep. And pages with é in the title won't let you edit sometimes either. Obviously someone's playing with the server right now. Nothing major to worry about; it should hopefully be back soon. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 22:04, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
::Alright. My computer has been acting crappy lately, but I didn't think it would do this, so just asking. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 22:07, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
:::Whenever I load a page in Chrome, it alerts me that the page has an infinite redirect. [[User:PhoenixGraphix|Phoenix]][[User_Talk:PhoenixGraphix|Graphix]][[Special:Contributions/PhoenixGraphix|™]] 22:08, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

::::I've been having these problems too. I'm starting to think the system hates us. First the system rejects any notion of allowing any number of question marks in page titles (although it can be tricked into [[Is It Summer?|producing]] [[What Kind of Pokémon Are You?|results]] on certain pages that end with question marks), and now making it so we might have to try multiple times to complete any given action? (I myself had to try twice just to get this comment in!) It's as if the server's trying to revolt against {{u|Archaic}}! --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 03:44, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
:::::At times it's rejecting non-alphanumeric characters, too. Like if I try to search something like "User:Sol", it turns to User%235Sol or something of the sort. And at other times, editing pages with é in them will result in a "bad title" thing. It's really annoying. '''~ [[User:Sol|sol]][[User talk:Sol|ar]][[Special:Contributions/Sol|is]]''' 03:48, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
::::::I noticed that when I had to get to somebody's page yesterday... and yeah. All of the stuff you guys said is exactly what I was asking about. Crap... I just remembered I have to type the tildes now too... '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 12:51, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

== If anyone's wondering about the GS color scheme ==

I'm not planning on changing it back anytime soon. In fact, I'll likely leave it until July, at which time it'll be replaced by the Crystal one to celebrate its anniversary. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 07:42, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

== IE8 ==

I think that after all this server issues are solved and after Project Overgrow is complete, you guys should make Bulbagarden completely IE8-compatible because with the exception of the forums, all the other websites show me the Compatibility View option, meaning that they weren't updated in order to become fully compatible with IE's 8th version yet. [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 15:19, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

: Do you have any problems? Please, specify them. — [[User:Tenno Seremel|Tenno Seremel]] 15:47, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
::Considering IE8 was just released recently, I'd expect not everyone or everything has taken advantage of it yet. Also, keep in mind, we're running off of MediaWiki 1.14 software, and that any IE8 issues likely will be taken care of in 1.15. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:44, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
:::Moreover, considering IE8 is more advanced in terms of CSS than it's previous incarnations I'd say there shouldn't be many problems at all. — [[User:Tenno Seremel|Tenno Seremel]] 22:54, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

== How come all the pages are protected? ==

Doesn't it make more sense to require users to log in to edit?
EDIT: Whoops, double post. Sorry. {{unsigned|Magikarp123193}}
:It's already required for users to log in to edit, but there will still be some users who will do something stupid even when logged in, so pages are protected so not even logged-in users will mess it up. '''~ [[User:Sol|sol]][[User talk:Sol|ar]][[Special:Contributions/Sol|is]]''' 18:28, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
::It's also because of the server problems, users are sometimes logged off randomly, they hope to have it fixed shortly. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psychic''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]''''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 18:30, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
:::Oh, I didn't know he meant ''all'' the pages. '''~ [[User:Sol|sol]][[User talk:Sol|ar]][[Special:Contributions/Sol|is]]''' 18:32, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
::::lol Sol, it's in the title..."How come '''all''' the pages are protected?". I'm pretty sure that's what he meant... --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psychic''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]''''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 18:35, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
:::::I know that, but all can be used as a hyperbole, so that's why I italicized ''all'', to put more emphasis on it so it actually meant ''all''. *going smartical on you* '''~ [[User:Sol|sol]][[User talk:Sol|ar]][[Special:Contributions/Sol|is]]''' 18:38, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
::::::Ah, I see. <s>But being a user of {{p|Roserade}}, I am right in this matter...</s> I think it is referring to the server issues as it says all though as not all pages are protected and this user is a registered user. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psychic''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]''''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 18:41, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
:::::::He means when you get logged off while trying to edit the page, yes. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 19:18, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

== 503 ==

So I know that everyone was hoping that the 503s were fixed, but when I first got on a little bit ago, one of the first pages I went to I got 503'd on. Just throwing that out there if it hasn't been noted already. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 20:04, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
:Which one's the 503 error? The one that loses your changes when you try to edit?--'''[[Johto|☆]][[User:Alpha Totodile|A]][[User talk:Alpha Totodile|T]][[Special:Contributions/Alpha Totodile|♂]]''' 20:05, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

::No. The one where it says that a server is unavailable to recieve your data or something like that. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 20:08, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
:::whoops, I meant "the one that says the server lost your session data after an edit". Is that the one? --'''[[Johto|☆]][[User:Alpha Totodile|A]][[User talk:Alpha Totodile|T]][[Special:Contributions/Alpha Totodile|♂]]''' 20:11, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

== Vandalism? ==
I have noticed random acounts being made and vandalising the site. Anyone might have an idea when this will stop? -- [[User:Vhayes1992|Vhayes1992]] 18:33, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
:We're working on it. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 18:34, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

::Look at the Message From the Editor. Also look at [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/showpost.php?p=854473&postcount=9 this]. --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 18:35, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
It's obvious that the guy will not get anywhere with the vandilism, but is there any guesses on when the person will give up?-- [[User:Vhayes1992|Vhayes1992]] 18:46, 25 May 2009

::The fact that there's been about 300 blocked accounts in May alone is kind of... Almost unsettling in a way. Why would someone go to all that trouble to annoy and vandalize us? Seriously! But it does seem to be picking up at some times so it probably won't stop soon, but I hope it does. --[[User:Hey1031|Hey1031]] 23:35, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

== A question about a "rule"? ==

Alright, I was wondering why do we have the "No Multiple Accounts" rule? I mean, I can understand if a User uses another account to get around a ban or something but... Seriously? Why do we ban someone for having two accounts? Hardly any other websites do it, and I mean heck, [http://www.facepunch.com Facepunch] don't ban you for having alt/multiple accounts unless you're using them to spam or something, and Facepunch has always been a really strict forum. So yeah, why do we have this rule? Is there any '''good''' reason? [[User:Takoto|~~Takoto]] - [[User_talk:Takoto|サソデイ]] 23:39, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
:If someone wants to contribute, then one account surely is enough. If multiple accounts are made and left, then in an instance when the first account is blocked, the second account can be used to get around that block. They can be used in instances of voting; users can try and show a majority opinion for a majority point of view. [[Special:Contributions/Crest|This has been done before]]. Now, when they do have multiple accounts, we don't block them both - just one. They can still edit. Just because other sites do it doesn't mean we should too. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 23:55, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
:: Ditto. If someone just wants to edit then 1 account is good enough. If some one has multiple accounts, they have some reason for it. And it could be a bad one. (Vandalism) --Usyflad10 23:17, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

==About Pictures==
I'm a poster for pictures, I love to post for Shippings, Items, all of that. But, for some reason, I can't see my pictures after I put them in an article. I checked everything to make sure it works and it does, so what's the problem? P.S. Sometimes when I log off, I'm able to see the pictures.[[User:Tandra88|Tandra88]] 01:17, 27 May 2009 (UTC)tandra88
:We're having problems with the server the site is hosted on atm. As a result, some images aren't showing up. There are techs working on this problem; there shouldn't be anything major to worry about. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 01:44, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
:Ok thank you so much. I acually thought it was my computer but now I know. Thanks! :) [[User:Tandra88|Tandra88]] 14:42, 27 May 2009 (UTC)tandra88

==Log In==
I have a problem. Sometimes when I edit an article, I try to save it, but I can't because I get logged out. Also, when I click the log in button to sign back in, I look at the top and it's logged in. Is something wrong?[[User:Tandra88|Tandra88]] 19:28, 27 May 2009 (UTC)tandra88
:New comments to the bottom of the page. And technically 98% of these questions should be directed at the Bulbawiki forum.... but the logout problem is yet another server flaw. We're hoping it won't hang around for too much longer. (Incidentally, I've never been logged out...) — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 19:39, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
::I've been seeing that too. I just keep telling it to save until it does. Sometimes it takes ten tries, sometimes it goes on the first try. --[[User:Galladeon|Galladeon]] 19:41, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
::: A few days ago, I kept getting logged out every 5 minutes, but when I click again, I was logged in again. This hasn't really been a problem since then but it was really frustrating trying to edit articles. --[[User:Hey1031|Hey1031]] 22:07, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
::::This is really annoying when I'm trying to upload sprites. Even making this comment took a while because of this problem.--[[User:Pokelova|''I'm Pokelova'']][[User talk:Pokelova|<big>''(Talk)''</big>]] 04:43, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
:::::Yeah that happened to me. I just enabled cookies for Bulbapedia and my account never got logged out. If you don't know how to enable cookies, look for the help section on your internet browser. --Usyflad 10 23:08, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

== Sockpuppets ==
There have been alot of new users with similiar names in the last few minutes and they seem like sockpuppets. Darkmaster0 17:13, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
:Oh, no. Grawp's at it again. [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] wants YOU! [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch/Bulbapedia Branch|Join the Order of the Glitch!]] [[User talk: Missingno. Master|(my talk page)]] 17:16, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
::Is it possible to just disallow the creation of new accounts for a while? It's rather annoying when I want to make an edit and can't because the admins locked the database because some idiot keeps making sockpuppets. --[[User:Galladeon|Galladeon]] 19:45, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
:::Trust me, that's on the cards. We just have to get in touch with the right person. Locking account creation is, apparently, harder than you think. Also, locking the database is, and always has been, the last resort. Our last goal here is to disadvantage the editors. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 19:50, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
::::That isn't the database, that's the server transition. One of them is locked because that one is only being used for archival purposes and we aren't paying for editing functions there. Until all the info is transferred, there will be locked database glitches and session losses, so please hang tight until things are finished.--[[User:RexRacer|'''Rex]][[User talk:RexRacer|Racer''']] 19:54, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
::::::Dammit... Why can't {{tt|he|grawp}} just leave us alone? --[[User:Galladeon|Galladeon]] 05:08, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Because he's probably a pimpled face nerd who lives in his mother's basement and has nothing to do and gets off on creating sockpuppets on Bulbapedia. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 05:12, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
Don't compliment him like that. --[[User:Galladeon|Galladeon]] 05:16, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
:Shshsh. He can see all because he has no life and wishes to get ****ed.--[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''ュウ!''']] 05:17, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
::Someday (hopefully soon), he'll run out of IPs to use, then there will be a massive party on Bulbapedia. --[[User:Galladeon|Galladeon]] 05:20, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
:::He'll stop when he's 50.--[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''ュウ!''']] 05:21, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
::::Ugh, this is annoying. Another lockdown? '''~ [[User:Sol|sol]][[User talk:Sol|ar]][[Special:Contributions/Sol|is]]''' 05:22, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
:::::He'll never live to be fifty if decent Bulbapedians can track him down... --[[User:Galladeon|Galladeon]] 05:24, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
::::::Okay guys, I'm gonna request that this topic be closed now. Thanks, --[[User:RexRacer|'''Rex]][[User talk:RexRacer|Racer''']] 05:25, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
== Help! ==

Can someone tell me on how to make a user page? I've been trying to find a help page but I can't find any![[User:Kingofun|Kingofun]] 05:25, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
:Calm down. People aren't watcing every page at every instant. This is the internet, and nothing is so urgent that you need to post 3 times in 4 minutes. As a general rule, as the number of people on will depend on your time zone, only start to worry about not getting a response after about 24 hours.

:Anyway, to make a user page click on your sig. It will take you to a page saying that this page does not yet exist, but you can create it. Put the wikicode in the box, just like for this page, and remember to preview it before you save to check that it is working how you want it. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] 05:44, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

== What the fridge?! ==

Lately I've been getting 503 errors, some stuff about no server being available. It's not particularly irksome as it doesn't happen too often, but still, I thought this was supposed to be taken care of with that maintenence the site underwent a few weeks ago? And just now, there's that loss of session data! Just now! Wasn't that supposed to stop after the maintenance? [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] wants YOU! [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch/Bulbapedia Branch|Join the Order of the Glitch!]] [[User talk: Missingno. Master|(my talk page)]] 01:21, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
:Oh, and when is the final thing for Project Overgrow being revealed? I would've thought sometime last month... [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] wants YOU! [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch/Bulbapedia Branch|Join the Order of the Glitch!]] [[User talk: Missingno. Master|(my talk page)]] 01:23, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
::It's taking a little longer to hammer out than we expected. Should be soon. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:24, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Oh, OK, thanks. And the final phase of Project Overgrow? [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] wants YOU! [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch/Bulbapedia Branch|Join the Order of the Glitch!]] [[User talk: Missingno. Master|(my talk page)]] 01:25, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

== Sign Up! ==

This may sound stupid, but my nephew want's to join Bulbapedia but I forgot how! Can someone tell me how to sign up for a account on Bulbapedia???[[User:Kingofun|Kingofun]] 05:40, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
:He can't. Account creation is disabled temporarily. We'll let you know when it comes back online. Until then, he's just going to have to browse. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 06:45, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
::I was wondering why there were no attacks. I didn't even notice that there weren't any new users coming in. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 06:51, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Yep. Grawp's gone global now. Pokéwiki, Wikinezka and even pokemon.wiki have had an introduction to our giant buddy. And of course, 'nezka have no admins online. Ever. Isn't that just grand? — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 07:01, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
Oh, ok thanks for telling me! My nephew's going to be really be bummed out. [[User:Kingofun|Kingofun]] 05:38, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
:Wow. When did this "cut-off" start? I just made an account a couple weeks ago. -Usyflad10

== Help! ==

I keep getting a message saying my edit could not be saved due to loss of session data or something like that. Does anyone know what I can do to fix this? [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 09:48, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
:Three options. Either press F5 and refresh the page, click back and save it again, or start over. Don't worry, you aren't the only person this is happening to. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 10:16, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
::The F5 method worked a treat. Thanks! [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 15:57, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

== -webkit ==

Do you guys know about this? I see you have -moz-border-radius implemented, but there is also -webkit-border-radius, -moz-border-shadow, and -webkit-border-shadow.--'''[[User:Prmatt11|''Mew'']]* [[User talk:Prmatt11|a.k.a.]] [[Special:Contributions/Prmatt11|Prmatt11]]''' was here at 13:28, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

:Yeah. BTW, if we are using -prefixed version of a CSS property it should be used as (I'm using border-radius here as an example): -prefixed1-border-radius, -prefixed2-border-radius, border-radius. i.e. we should include non-prefixed version of the property itself *after* prefixed ones. — [[User:Tenno Seremel|Tenno Seremel]] 14:46, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
::How come?--'''[[User:Prmatt11|''Mew'']]* [[User talk:Prmatt11|a.k.a.]] [[Special:Contributions/Prmatt11|Prmatt11]]''' was here at 20:31, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

:::It's future-proofing. Some time in the future border-radius will became a standard and "border-radius" will work, while prefixed versions will be turned off. — [[User:Tenno Seremel|Tenno Seremel]] 08:37, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

== Pronunciation for pokemon ==

I don't know if this was already suggested but i think adding a pronunciation button or one of those pronunciation keys like: [pruh-nuhn-see-ey-shuhn] could improve Bulbapedia a lot. Just a suggestion. --Usyflad10 20:38, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

:Not really. The anime, Battle Revolution, and other things have differences in how they pronounce the names. There's really no solid pronunciation for some Pokémon. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 03:26, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
::Just look through The Pokemon Sinnoh handbook or any pokemon handbook for official English pronunciations. --[[User:Vhayes1992|Vhayes1992]] 21:36, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
:::The books are known for their errors. For example, how the <s>f*ck</s> heck is Delibird a legendary? --[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/|'''エ'''][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 21:38, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
::::You got me there! --[[User:Vhayes1992|Vhayes1992]] 22:02, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
:::::Pronunciation also changes depending on where you're from.--[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/|'''エ'''][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 23:33, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
Yeah I know that there are books but they make lots of errors. Even if there are multiple pronunciations we could include all of them. --Usyflad10 20:38, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

:No. Because we'd have to find them all. Find how everybody says them. Find the location of where it's said like that (game, book, country/region/state). And THEN add them all to the pages. That would take hours of useless work. Heck, not even Wikipedia, the "We have it all!" encyclopedia has pronunciations for {{tt|most articles|none of the crappy Pokémon ones have it either}}. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 13:53, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

oh okay. --Usyflad10 20:38, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

== Help me please. ==

I'm not sure how to link my user page to my signature. Can somebody tell me how?--Usyflad10 23:30, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
:Do you sign with four tildes? [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|You enter a poorly lit room...]] 23:32, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
Well i press the signature button --Usyflad10 23:34, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
::[[Special:Preferences|here]]. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 23:42, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
Yeah i know you change your signature there but i dont know how to make it my user page. --Usyflad10 23:59, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

[[User:Usyflad10|Usyflad10]] ([[User talk:Usyflad10|talk]])

Copy the coding from the edit window. That should do it. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 00:03, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks i hope it works --Usyflad10 05:53, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

==News==
It may just be me, or it might be intentional but it seems like all of the news articles except the top one aren't there. [[User:STHedgehog|STHedgehog]] 15:15, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
:And now they're all gone. I think someone is deleting the news articles. [[User:STHedgehog|STHedgehog]] 15:16, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
::No, the News Updater on Bulbanews encoutered an error. It should be fixed within the next 15 minutes. Just hang tight until then. --[[User:Landfish7| Land]][[User talk:Landfish7|fish]][[User talk:Landfish7|7]] 17:16, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Will ya look on the forums? It is not on purpose, it will not be fixed in 15 minutes, sadly. However, I will change that notice.--'''[[User:Prmatt11|''Mew'']]* [[User talk:Prmatt11|a.k.a.]] [[Special:Contributions/Prmatt11|Prmatt11]]''' was here at 17:35, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
::::Thank you, the news is back now. [[User:STHedgehog|STHedgehog]] 22:58, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

== Countdown?? ==

I don't know if i missed the news or something but why is there a countdown to september 12 2009. Is it when a game comes out? --[[User:Usyflad10|[[User:Usyflad10|Usyflad10]]]] 02:09, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
:HGSS kid. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psychic''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]''''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 02:11, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
yeah i just looked at the article in BulbaNews. Sorry :( {{unsigned|Usyflad10}}

Do you think the countdown should be a bit smaller? It is rather dominating. [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 16:47, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
:It's the way it's set up. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:01, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

== 503 and 504 errors -_- ==

This is getting annoying. First we have the "lost session data" error. And then we have these things. 503 says that no server was available. 504 says something about not being on time or whatever. It is really messed up. It ended up making me do three edits instead of two on [[Counter]]. Is this just me . . . >:( --[[User:Landfish7| Land]][[User talk:Landfish7|fish]][[User talk:Landfish7|7]] 17:46, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
:Nevermind, it's fixed. --[[User:Landfish7| Land]][[User talk:Landfish7|fish]][[User talk:Landfish7|7]] 17:55, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
::In the future, please direct your techical problems to [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/showthread.php?t=39109 this thread]. Thank you.--[[User:RexRacer|'''Rex]][[User talk:RexRacer|Racer''']] 18:07, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
::: Is it fixed? I had that 503 error thing come up today. --[[image:MD004F.png]] [[User:Usyflad10|Usyflad10]] ([[User talk:Usyflad10|talk]]) [[image:MD004F.png]] 06:04, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
::::Clearly, if the error came up, it is not fixed. We do not know when this will be fixed, but be assured it is being worked on. I'll bump Rex's comment about how we shouldn't be commenting about this here. Thank you. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 07:39, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

== More error driven goodness ==

I keep getting logged out and logged back in and I can't make many edits at all. --[[User:Landfish7| Land]][[User talk:Landfish7|fish]][[User talk:Landfish7|7]] 14:38, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
:Are you talking about the lost session data error that I keep getting? If you are, just continue trying to save the edit until it does. --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 14:44, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
::No I'm not talking about {{tt|that|that crap that is very annoying}}. I'm talking about how it keeps logging me out. I even pressed the "remember me" check-off box and it still logs me off as soon as I press {{tt|show preview|or save page}}. It makes it so I can't edit at all. This isn't just me it is happening to some others too. I was lucky for it to work this time. --[[User:Landfish7| Land]][[User talk:Landfish7|fish]][[User talk:Landfish7|7]] 14:59, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
:::Has anyone said that this is fixed? No. Direct tchical questions to the thread I linked above please. Further disregard of the system will result in consequences.--[[User:RexRacer|'''Rex]][[User talk:RexRacer|Racer''']] 15:01, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
::::The same thing is happening to me, but I had to log in so many times times, because every time I would, it would log me right back out. -_- Its almost a miracle I could get on now. --[[User:Hey1031|Hey1031]] 19:48, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

That happened to me but i fixed it. You have to enable cookies for Bulbapedia to stay logged in. if you hav a windows go to internet options then security then to trusted sites. Add Bulbapedia. --[[User:Usyflad10|Usyflad]] [[User talk:Usyflad10|10]] 23:09, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

== Sorry for my Stupidity ==

I dont quite understand the release date of september 12. Is that when HGSS comes out for Japan? Or America? If Japan, when does it come out in America? Sorry. --[[User:Usyflad10|Usyflad]] [[User talk:Usyflad10|10]] 21:39, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
:JST would likely imply Japan. Why would it come out in the US that soon? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 21:43, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

== I noticed an error on some Supreme Victors/Beat of the Frontier card pages. ==

The thing above the page says the cards won't be released in English. Could you make a new thing like that that says that it was released in Japan and ''will'' be released in English? Pretty please with a Pecha Berry on top? - ''unsigned comment from {{u|Magikarp123193}} ([[User talk:Magikarp123193|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Magikarp123193|contribs]]) ''
:The [[Template:TCG Unreleased|notice in question]] says "'''''may''''' not be released outside of Japan". You're implying it reads "'''''will''''' not be released outside of Japan". We don't switch to [[Template:TCG Pre-prerelease|a notice for impending English release]] until the card is 100% confirmed to come out in English--which is when an English scan of the card comes around. No English scan means no guarantee the card'll come out in English. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 14:33, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

== Wanted articles list ==

I was looking through the wanted articles list and noticed a couple talk pages, and I probably would've seen more if I'd kept looking. Should they be on there? If not, is there a way to make it not display those? --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 14:22, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

:Are those talk pages for Pokémon in the anime? [[Template:Questionable Notability]] links to the talk page of any page that includes the notice tag, done so as a means to encourage discussion to try to make a case either for or against notability. [[Template:Delete]] also links to talk pages as well. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 14:29, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

::I'm talking about [[Special:WantedPages|this list.]] --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 14:33, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

:::So was I. The notice tags in question will add the talk pages to the wanted pages if the talk pages don't exist. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 14:38, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
::::Ah. Okay. --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 14:38, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

BTW, could an admin look at the {{TP|Zoey|Zoey's Misdreavus|Misdreavus}} page and talk page and probably delete them/turn the page into a redirect? --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 20:48, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

== template page?? ==

Is there a page that lists all the templates or at least tells you how to make one? --[[User:Usyflad10|Usyflad]][[User talk:Usyflad10|10]] 00:09, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
:{{cat|Templates}}. Other than that, often you can start with a similar template that already exists and modify it. What did you have in mind?--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 00:51, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

== [[Bulbapedia:Usertag policy]] ==

Could a Userspace Usertag category be created and applied to relevant tags so that users can find them? It would help in the process of getting them approved. --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 05:50, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

== Johto tag? ==

Does anyone know what code I need to type in to add the "This user's favourite region is Johto" user tag to my page? [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 15:59, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
:{{template|User Favorite Region}}: Check the template page, and follow the instructions, - [[User:Kogoro|'''<sc>Kogoro</sc>''']] '''|''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''<sc>Talk to me</sc>''']] - 16:04, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

OK, thanks! [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 16:48, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

== Glichy ==

the Bulbapedia logo vanished.--[[User:Tobytse99|tobytse]] 05:57, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

:I mean, it is like that the Achieve database is down--[[User:Tobytse99|tobytse]] 06:01, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
::Currently being upgraded, don't freak out. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:01, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

== Anyone else experiencing this? ==

I realize that the wiki has probably been undergoing some upgrading. But nearly everytime I try to edit something, it redirects me to the "Page cannot save, try logging out and back in' message or whatever it is. And I have to sit there constantly pressing save page just to get it to save. And yet it's like everyone else can still edit the pages without any trouble. Is anyone else experiencing this? [[User:Mudkipchan|Mudkipchan]] 00:27, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

:It's a known issue, yes, and affects everyone, not just you. The problem generally goes away if you hit save a few times, so until it's fixed, you'll just need to work around it. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 04:34, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

:Yes, I've been getting that problem too, and sometimes it makes me lose everything I've just typed! But here's some advice: paste everything you typed into a document first, then click "Save". That way, if you get the error message, you don't have to type it all out again. [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 09:50, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
::Are both of you using Firefox? I've found that Firefox usually saves things like that, so you don't have to worry about losing what you just typed. --Posted by [[User:Pikamander2|Pikamander2]] [[User Talk:Pikamander2|(Talk)]] at 12:00, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

:::I use Firefox 3.5, yes. And it "holds" entered data like that for you, so if you accidentally leave the page, you can generally hit the back button and still retain your writing. (not on all websites, however.) --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 22:54, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
::::This should have been resolved, though, with the updates to the software. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 23:03, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

I am facing the same problem too.
--♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''niz''']]♪♫ 07:00, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
:What browser are you using Adyniz?--[[User:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Ho-Oh (Pokémon)|orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Lugia (Pokémon)|ire]] 07:02, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

== PNGs ==

I've noticed that a lot of the animated images on Bulbapedia, like the Pokémon game icons, are being replaced with PNG versions. Is this really necessary? It's spoiling all the fun for everyone who can't see PNG animations on their computers. The GIFs looked fine as they were. I know it's an encyclopedia, but sometimes fun is more important than quality isn't it? [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 09:55, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
:On Bulbapedia, quality is more important that "fun". That said, there is no difference between animated GIFs and APNGs, aside from which browsers can see both. --Posted by [[User:Pikamander2|Pikamander2]] [[User Talk:Pikamander2|(Talk)]] at 11:55, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
::Actually, the image quality in AniPNGs is quite a bit higher than that of GIFs. -- '''[[User:evkl|evkl]]''' [[User_talk:evkl|(need to talk?)]] 13:05, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

But my browser can't see PNG animations! It's not fair! [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 12:51, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
:Sorry, but it's kind of the nature of the internet that not everyone will get all features. Stuff that renders "right" in IE is standards-broken and won't render properly in standards compliant browsers. Getting Firefox is generally a Good Idea if you're currently on IE-Firefox 3.5 is a superb browser, the best Mozilla has put out in ages. We can't please everybody, and as I said, the .gif image quality is unacceptably low. -- '''[[User:evkl|evkl]]''' [[User_talk:evkl|(need to talk?)]] 13:19, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
::Even more Opera seems to have support for APNGs too (maybe others can do it too). So there is actually a choice. Going from IE to any other (non-IE-based) browser is a good idea anyway. — [[User:Tenno Seremel|Tenno Seremel]] 22:37, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

== Why? ==

um, why is the main page crystal-themed now? do we have some other info about something else? [[User:Empath-Silvio|Empath-Silvio]] 15:23, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
:Honestly, I have no idea. But please remember to sign your comments with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). Thanks! -- '''[[User:evkl|evkl]]''' [[User_talk:evkl|(need to talk?)]] 13:35, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

::Honestly, there's only [[User:TTEchidna|one person]] I know who'd be able to pull something like this off...--[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 14:13, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
:::Crystal came out in North-America around this time.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 14:53, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

== Humans ==

I can't seem to find an article on humans here. Is there one at all? [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 17:15, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

:it's not really needed [[User:Ultamatecharizard|Ultamate]][[User Talk:Ultamatecharizard|Charizard]] 00:38, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

:You mean like what are humans? no, that's really not needed. [[User:Empath-Silvio|Empath-Silvio]] 14:41, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
::No, I mean an article detailing the cultural and possible religious background of humans in the franchise. I understand that as of this point, the information is rather lax, but a real glimpse into the "Pokemon world" has been increasingly revealing as the generations go on.

::If it's not disagreed on, I think an article detailing the cultural, technological, and religious development of humans in relation to Pokemon would be very interesting to read. Notable examples include the anime episodes The Ghost of Maiden's Peak, which suggests a Japanese-influenced culture and war, and The Ancient Puzzle of Pokémopolis, which suggests Pokemon were once worshiped as gods (this same idea is suggested in the Eletric Tale of Pikachu chapter on Sabrina and the giant haunter, Black Fog).

::From the games themselves, a rich mythological-cultural background can be seen in G/S/C with the Burned and Tin towers, as well as the monks in the Bellsprout Tower. Arceus being a Pokemon and a god in the fourth gen storyline also clearly suggests more for humans as well as Pokemon... Does anyone see what I'm getting at? [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 14:48, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
:::I see what your saying... but... I don't know, it might not be a good idea. You may want to talk to an admin first. I'd say it's a good idea, but yeah... [[User:Takoto|~~Takoto]] - [[User_talk:Takoto|サソデイ]] 15:07, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

::::My main problem with that article is that it would be mostly speculation, and that the different canons constantly contradict each other is those subjects... But here's an idea: how about you create such a page in your userspace (as a subpage), work on it, and if it's good - we'll consider mainspacing it. If you really want to, that is. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 16:40, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::Yes, it would probably be speculation if we made unnecessary leaps... I'm currently playing through Blue, then Silver and so on, so I'll be sure to take any notes relevant. One thing that stands out is the Rocket member in Mt. Moon that says Pokemon came before humans, so that would easily be an interesting point if elaborated on later. (I also think it interesting to note that there's a "timeline" of events in the Pokemon universe somewhere on this encyclopedia, which appears to be speculative in nature. Suggesting cavemen made the Regis is pretty... off) [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 16:46, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

::::::i see where this is going. i agree it would be an interesting article, but it will be very difficult to write. as i understand it, you have to see each and every episode, because you cannot just pick an episode or two, and summarize everything. also, i agree it will be mainly speculation. but i think it will be a great article to read. if you have the patience to write it, that is. i offer my help in the games, i have played them all and have access to them. notify me! [[User:Empath-Silvio|Empath-Silvio]] 23:16, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::::If you, or anyone else, can help I'd be greatly appreciative. I'm mostly concerned with the games, since the anime has become more culturally-neutral following the first three seasons to make it more accessible in other nations where dubbing can't hide "donuts". So I have little issue with that, but with the games it can be a lot harder because of over-looked things.

:::::::The Rocket grunt that says humans came after Pokemon in Mt. Moon is a fine example, though I believe this was confirmed or clarified in other generations. It's the little things we need to look into, such as the Channelers in first gen (suggestive of a cult presence), and the monks in second (suggestive of religious, or philosophical, organizations). Bulbapedia is our obvious resource, with 'Dex entries suggestive of festivals, legends, and areas being a key source of information, so if anyone wants to help we can compile human-related information on my talk page and work towards filling something out. [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 23:30, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

If there are no ordinary animals in the Pokémon world, does that mean the humans evolved from Pokémon? [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 10:10, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
::An interesting theory, which is at least partially backed by the Lake Trio, but if you want to look for hints to fully confirm I'd recommend playing DPPt or waiting until gen V. I imagine gen V will take a look into the history of humans, as fourth has looked into that of Pokemon. [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 18:40, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
This has now gone off-topic. A reminder to all we have a whole [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/index.php forum] for conversations like this. If you wish to continue, please go there. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 19:30, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

== I have a question. ==

Look, I've been wondering this for ages now, and it's starting to annoy me. Why is the official art so... small? In terms of pixels, it's tiny. And it's really annoying when I'm looking for reference on what a Pokémon looks like, I can barely see it. So yeah, why do we use really tiny versions of the official art rather than clearer, bigger versions? And I don't think it's because you can't find a bigger version of the art, seeing as it would be easy too get one of the official books and scan in the official art and upload it. And I'm sure there's bigger versions of the art on the internet. I'm just wondering is there any real reason we use such small versions? [[User:Takoto|~~Takoto]] - [[User_talk:Takoto|サソデイ]] 20:52, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
:The ''art'' were using is from the official dex on pokemon.co.jp. But, since there isn't any ''art'' on the main page, I guess that you're referring to the animated ''sprites'' in the top corner of every box. You see, in-battle sprites would be too big, not to mention the gender differences. So, we're using the smaller sprites used in the [[PC]] and [[party]] instead. [[User:Pokémon Lover King Mario|Pokémon Lover King Mario]] 13:47, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Main Page/Archive 8

2009-08-10T13:18:18Z

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This is the [[Bulbapedia:Talk page|talk page]] for the Bulbapedia's front page. If you have a general comment about the wiki, please consider placing it in [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/forumdisplay.php?f=195 our forum].'''

== Previous discussions ==

* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 1|Archive 1]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 2|Archive 2]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 3|Archive 3]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 4|Archive 4]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 5|Archive 5]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 6|Archive 6]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 7|Archive 7]]

== Pokémon PC Master ==

Bulbapedia has [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pokémon_PC_Master this information] about the game and Wikipedia has [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pokémon_PC_Master this information] about the same game. Which one is correct? I'd assume Wikipedia is correct because I've seen the Japanese version of [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/The_Mastermind_of_Mirage_Pokémon ''The Mastermind of Mirage Pokémon''] and in the commercials before the episode started, there was one announcing Pokémon PC Master and it corresponds to what Wikipedia sintectically says about its purpose. It had a [http://www.pokemon-pcmaster.com/ website] but it no longer works -- [http://web.archive.org/web/20071001114406/http://www.pokemon-pcmaster.com/ here] you can find the most recent copy of the website available on the Internet Archive. Please help me figure out so the article can be corrected. [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 16:30, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
:BTW, I've found [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pokémon_games_for_PC this] on Wikipedia. [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 16:43, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

--

Can someone help me with this issue, please? [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 14:05, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

== what happened to project overgrow? ==

the next part of it was supposed to be announced yesterday [[User:Ultamatecharizard|Ultamate]][[User Talk:Ultamatecharizard|Charizard]] 14:06, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
:Tomorrow... [[User:MathijsP|MathijsP]] 16:24, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
::Patience is a virtue. And silence is golden. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 09:36, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
:::And we're somewhat behind schedule. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 09:42, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
::::Yeah i didnt get the whole Project Overgrow thing. Is it over? --Usyflad10 23:11, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

==About a New Shipping==
I thought of a new shipping and I don't know how to make it or start it. May somebody help me or work with me to make it?[[User:Tandra88|Tandra88]] 22:11, 27 March 2009 (UTC)tandra88

== 403 Error ==

Not sure where to post this, but usually, and on a daily basis, the first few times I try to load up this Wiki, I get an Access Forbidden & 403 error. Is this a server-related problem? Does the website not work at certain times during the day? [[User:QTR|QTR]] 23:48, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
:That just means that the server is currently down, and is being repaired. Not to worry, it's not uncommon. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User Talk:Theryguy512|512]]''' 23:50, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
::Well it happened about 30 minutes ago or so, not sure exactly how long, that's just a guess-timate. About 5 minutes later, I was able to connect. [[User:QTR|QTR]] 23:50, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
:::Yeah, it's off and on as our webmaster tries to find a permanent fix to the problem. It's been down recently due to the large number of edits you guys have all been making. So, just wait it out. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 02:05, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

== Wait... ==

Why are the tags <sc></sc> visible on the second and bottom headers? -[[User:Jayc|Jayc]] 14:53, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
:Bulbawiki is glitchy at the moment, so you might really see something wrong, and that includes codes that are not working. '''►[[User:Kevzo8|Ҝə]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|υz]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|ø8]]''' 14:55, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

::Just for the record, the tags made visible by the glitch allow text to be displayed in <sc>{{wp|small caps}}</sc>, allowing characters to be inputted in lowercase, but be displayed in uppercase at the same height as a typical lowercase character (i.e. "a" is a typical lowercase character, but "b" isn't due to its height). --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 14:59, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

== Classification? ==

Something came to my mind a few days ago, how do we classify the Pokémon games? RPG, or JRPG? I mean, technically, they'd be JRPG's right, seeing as they're made in Japan, and not only that but are similar in many ways too other JRPG's. Like the battle systems, the only difference is in most JRPG's you play humans, but in Pokémon you play a human, and through them you command the Pokémon. What do you guys think? [[User:Takoto|~~Takoto]] - [[User_talk:Takoto|サソデイ]] 12:19, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

:Either way, they're still RPGs; "JRPG" is sort of a sub-category within that. If you made a duplicate of Pokémon in the 'States, it would just be a RPG, not a JRPG (despite sharing all the styles and gameplay). So I think we can just avoid the confusion and/or debate on that topic right there by simply classifying it as an RPG. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 13:18, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

::Technically it's a console RPG, but that term is now archaic. [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 18:17, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

== I had to cheat it to get me confirmed ==

Why do you have to be email-confirmed and a logged-in user to edit pages here? Other wikis let you edit anonymously or without being email-confirmed. --[[User:HideInTheDark|HideInTheDark]] 02:42, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
:Because we don't want morons coming by and vandalizing. Makes it a lot harder to vandalize if you have to register sock emails, since then only the hardcore trolls go through with it. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:46, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
::Ditto what the Echidna-in-chief said about the socks, but also, because we don't want to be like [http://pokemon.wikia.com/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_Wiki other wikis] and have hordes of badly maintained articles. This way, we know that anyone who wants to contribute is serious about it (or should be serious), and we can have the ''best'' information ever. It also lets us know who says what, and issue punishments and rewards occasionally and accordingly. What have you got to complain about though, you've got your account. Now, go edit the mainspace! *brushes you away with a broom* :P — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 02:50, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

== I want a ==

I want a golden Slowpoke. Can I make a horrible page on purpose to get it? --I [[User:HideInTheDark|hide in the dark]]! 02:37, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

:No! Stop asking.--[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''ュウ!''']] 02:38, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

== Firefox: problem? ==

Why does Bulbapedia look curvy in Firefox? It appears fine in IE and Opera. Here's a [http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/oo102/Satoshi2000/bulbapedia_firefox.png screenshot] that may be helpful to better understand the problem. [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 13:59, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
:You have it backwards, the problem is that it's NOT curvy in IE and Opera. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|You enter a poorly lit room...]] 13:56, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
::That's right. The problem only seems to occur in Firefox. [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 13:59, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
:::OOPS! Sorry, I misread what you said. So it's supposed to look that way (i.e., curvy)? [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 14:03, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
::::Yes. IE and Opera lack the coding to form curved borders, so only Firefox can view it. '''[[User:Optimatum|Θρtιmαtum]][[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]] 14:01, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
:::::OK, now I understand the reason for that behavior. Thanks! ^_^ [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 14:03, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

::::::Different people have different stances on how the corners are best rendered. Just because one browser curves the corners and another doesn't doesn't mean it looks outright horrible in either browser. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 15:18, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

::::::Actually, there is a nifty HTML trick for rounded edges that works in IE. Here's the article: http://www.alistapart.com/articles/customcorners [[User:PhoenixGraphix|Phoenix]] 21:18, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
:::::::We'll need to talk to the people who make MediaWiki for that. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:52, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

== Disambiguation ==

When I typed in Prinplup, I got a disambig page. Should I make that page Prinplup (disambiguation), make [[Prinplup]] a redirect, and put "for other uses, see Prinplup (disambiguation)" on [[Prinplup (Pokémon)]]? [[User:Theininen|Thein]][[User talk:Theininen|inen]] 15:45, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
:No, this has been the system since the beginning, and it will not be changing. We've had polls, discussions, and arguements, and we have decided that the system we have now is the best and it won't ever be changing. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 15:48, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
::OK, thanks, I haven't been around for a while, so I wasn't sure what the policy was. [[User:Theininen|Thein]][[User talk:Theininen|inen]] 15:50, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
:::You should have still known, this has been the policy since the beginning. I even checked for proof for you to read why. [[Bulbapedia talk:Disambiguation poll]] and even the thread on the forums [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/showthread.php?t=30346 here]. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 15:56, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
::::No, I meant I forgot. Thanks though, I'll read those. [[User:Theininen|Thein]][[User talk:Theininen|inen]] 16:01, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

== Wow, no one's asked yet! ==

I'm surprised that no one's questioned ''at all'' why the Main Page is now pink and blue! '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:17, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

:Why is it? --'''[[User:Prongs|Prongs]] '''([[User Talk:Prongs|Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Prongs|Contributions]])''' 08:19, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

:: YOU'RE PREGNANT AND YOU HAD TWINS, A BOY AND A GIRL? --'''[[User:Darkeiya|Darkeiya]]''' ''[[User talk:Darkeiya|talk to me!]]'' 08:19, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
:::I questioned it to myself, but found the answer by looking at the [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Template:Main_Page&curid=63661&diff=740671&oldid=719799 history of the template]. Maybe everyone else is as self-discovering and clever. Or blind? --[[User:DarkfireTaimatsu|DarkfireTaimatsu]] 08:21, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
::::Maybe they know it already, or they go directly to the RC not the Main Page. Happy anniversary DP in US. =] the page's so bright!'''◄[[User:Kevzo8|Kev]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|zo8]]►''' 08:22, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
:::::Well, it'll have a more green theme next Friday, rather than today. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:41, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
::::::The green hurts my eyes. - '''[[User:Flex_S|Flex]][[Special:Contributions/Flex_S|__]][[User_talk:Flex_S|S]]''' 22:27, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
:::::::It's only for a day. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:51, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

== Extending the wiki for the Spanish language ==

Will it possible to create an extension of this wiki for the Spanish language at the international level?. The Spanish used to be that used in [[wp:Hispanic America|Hispanic America]], and the names of characters, places and others are the same as used in United States. --[[User:Toonamimaniacolatino|Toonamimaniacolatino]] 16:59, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

:There is already at least one Spanish Pokémon Wiki already running, [http://poketeca.com/wiki/Portada pokéteca], so for us to create such an extension at this point would just be more work; it's much easier to simply contribute to one of the Spanish Wikis that's already active. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 17:59, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
::The Pokéteca wiki is a wiki in Spanish, but this is not edited by users in Latin America, is edited by users of Spain, so the names of characters (such as May, in Spain is called Aura), and other cities are not the same as used in Latin America. While in Spain they changed the names to the characters, not in Latin America because the Pokémon video games that come to this region come from the United States and remain unchanged. We want a wiki where Spanish is not using the nomenclature given in Spain if not the ones used in Latin America (which are the same as those used in United States). --[[User:Toonamimaniacolatino|Toonamimaniacolatino]] 18:34, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

:::Last I checked, Wikipedia had only one Spanish variation. Trust me, there is no way to completely satisfy Spanish speakers in all parts of the world with just one wiki.

:::Regardless of how Spanish-language affiliation for [[Encyclopaediae Pokémonis]] turns out (unless there's two Spanish wikis, and even then there'd need to be two different inter-wiki prefixes), there's still going to be focus problems. To avoid complete alienation of a group of Spanish-speakers, be it those in Latin America or those on the Iberian Peninsula, there should at least be redirects from other variations of the language as well as slight mentions of them on the pages, be they Latin America-based redirects on a Spain-focused wiki or Spain-based redirects on a Latin America-based wiki. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 18:43, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

::::You know that Wikipedia in Spanish used only one classification, which is the United States? is being implemented policies titles convention and use common sense. The names used in the United States are better known than the names of any other country (including Spain) and why this is being implemented. To redirect and put other things besides just the people of Spain is foolish for them not only is Spain and Latin America. The main idea of a wiki is in Spanish that is targeted for the whole world (not just Latin America and Spain, although the latter always change the names) and nomenclature used is the same as used Bulbapedia, the United States. --[[User:Toonamimaniacolatino|Toonamimaniacolatino]] 19:03, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

:::::Pokéteca besides, there is another wiki in spanish called [http://es.pokemon.wikia.com/wiki/WikiDex Wikidex] , but like the first, is a wiki Wikidex edited by users of Spain, so their contents only revolves around them (apparently they do not know that there Latin America). Bulbapedia that would be good to do a version of yourself in Spanish or even better make another wiki in Spanish but with the same format as the bulbapedia (with the same names of characters, places, etc.) and not use anything that has to do with Spain and forming part of [[Encyclopaediae Pokémonis]]. --[[User:Toonamimaniacolatino|Toonamimaniacolatino]] 21:49, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

::::::Correction '''''there are''''' editors from around Central America (South to be exact) in PokeTeca. And WikiDex is Wikia we do not include Wikia part of EP. Anyways, stop complaining about it being Iberian Spanish if you have a problem '''''make redirects''''' over there or talk to one of their admins. And Wikipedia is not always the best resource for Pokémon infomation.--[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''ュウ!''']] 23:58, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Used vosotros y despues me habled. :D '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:48, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
::::::::Well, whatever, there is no use talking to them that for them there is only Spain and nothing more. If you intend to do a wiki Pokémon in Spanish, this should be neutral and use the international names, ie names used in USA. --[[User:Toonamimaniacolatino|Toonamimaniacolatino]] 17:40, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::I love the irony in that statement. As do the Germans and the French, I'm sure. If you think it's a problem, go and talk to their administrators. We can't do anything about what language they include. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 20:03, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::The same thing would have to been done to the Portuguese wiki, which is more focused on the Brazilian part than the Portuguese part. [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 19:12, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::::That isn't true, Toonamimaniacolatino, there're latinamerican administrators and pokétecarios in Pokéteca working in the wiki, so ... for us there isn't only Spain and nothing more but I think that if the wiki is in spanish we have to use the spanish names (like other wikis in other languages use their languages) because in Latinamerica the game arrives unfortunately from USA whitout translations. However, I understand the problem for LA with the names and we'll see what can we do. --[[User:Habieru|Habieru]] 15:52, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::::Habieru, that's not the point they have not also want to make changes that Pokéteca a wiki is managed by the Pkstation fansite, which is administered by Spanish Do you know what I mean? Better or try to make the effort to talk to the Spaniards is to waste time, plus they do not like the idea of using the names used in the U.S. Is there any objection by the fact that games come fully into English for the Latin American region? I do not see any further dubbing anime in Spanish which is done for the region Latin America Mexico, is based on the games that come in English and that there is any problem in creating a wiki in Spanish that is subject to Bulbapedia. --[[User:Toonamimaniacolatino|Toonamimaniacolatino]] 00:35, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
:(reset indent) Just an FYI, Habieru ''is'' the administration on Pokéteca, more or less. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 07:46, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
::
Well, I do not think this is the solution to the problem. --[[User:Toonamimaniacolatino|Toonamimaniacolatino]] 14:59, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
: I'd love to help with this but... I don't know, I don't think a lot of you mmmm americans (I mean from USA) would like to give us that mmmm I don't know If I know how to explain myself on this...: but this wiki is supposed to be, well... in English, and even though I loooooooooove being mexican{{tt|,|and speak Spanish}} I'm very proud of it, I don't really think it's a good idea to make '''all''' the articles in spanish, too, because the're a lot and besides we don't really need them (well those who doesn't know English would love this page had spanish things too but that's what those other pages well... exist for, right?) even if they aren't as good as Bulbapedia, I'm not trying to offend them, but really, I used to check wikidex long ago but then I found this and sticked to it becuase I thought (and I still think I'm right) this is more complete and better writen and all. But I think I'm missing the point :D. No, If we really needed one Bulbapedia in Spanish hmmmmm well, I think it's a difficult toppic, a lot of people should keep discussing this until we get a conclusion. If the answer is "Yes, lets do a Bulbapedia in Spanish!" then count on me!! But if the answer is not... I wouldn't be sad anyway, cause I don't think it's reaaaaally needed. That's what I think, please lets talk about this more, don't leave it like that![[User:YukitoOoO|YukitoOoO]] 22:26, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

:I may be wrong but, PokéTeca has been slated... so there's on Pokémon Wiki in Spanish. --[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''ュウ!''']] 23:05, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

::I do not think it correct to say that Pokèteca is officially a wiki in Spanish when their information is poor, little, makes a bad use of classifications that are not officers, who are only known within a European country and that their way of disseminated the information is not so neutral, I mean they do not implement or do not know what the [[wp:Wikipedia:Neutral point of view|Neutral point of view]] is that every wiki should have. But in recent days I have been talking to a webmaster of a fansite Pokémon in Latin America and told me he has been working with its friends in the development of a wiki in Spanish in which they can use the nomenclature of USA. This news made me fell so good I decided to be part of this. We are polishing and doing everything necessary to make this wiki its debut next month is in July. We have great hopes with this wiki and can move faster than any other Spanish wiki Pokemon has been seen and if possible, be a part of PE. This wiki is based on Bulbapedia (information from the articles, of course) and use that spirit of seriousness of Wikipedia so we can succeed in this project is to come. --[[User:Toonamimaniacolatino|Toonamimaniacolatino]] 22:49, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
:::I think that if Pokéteca is a spanish wiki we have to use the official spanish nomenclature, in other words, the names used in Spain. We can search a solution but... what solution? If somebody plays the game in english, I think that he can read Bulbapedia. But if somebody plays the game in spanish, he can't read a spanish wiki with english nomenclature, he needs a wiki with spanish nomenclature. Respect to the information of Pokéteca is 'poor and little'... it's logical, Pokéteca has only 8 months online but there're people working hard in Pokéteca... Rome was not built in one day. The only solution that I see is create a Latin America wiki, but as I said, I don't see this logical.--[[User:Habieru|Habieru]] 02:22, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
::::Are the games released in Latin America really that much different from the Spanish counterparts? Or are they just the English games NOA sends to all of North America, saying "screw off, Quebec and Mexico", while Spain gets games in Spanish? Creating a Latin American wiki just for that would be stupid, really, as would it be if we created a Commonwealth English wiki and an American English wiki. Special Defense isn't altered in the UK or Australia to Special Defence, so yeah. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:38, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
:::::No, the games realeased in Latin America, at least in Mexico, are the same from the USA, the thing here is that is someone in mexico needs a little help with his game and knows only a little English -enough- to play a game, but not to finish it, is going to have some a lot of trouble and he's going to need help, but if he goes to Poketeca or Wikidex that info may not be good enough, or different as they change the name of the moves and cities (obviously names of people and others) that may confuse him. What would be good in that case is to have and Spanish-written Encyclopedia, good for visitors form Latin America, that gets things from USA, that is {{tt|"Bulbapedia en español, la enciclopedia de Pokémon mas completa"|"Bulbapedia in Spanish, the most complete Pokémon encyclopedia"}}. THAT is what we're trying to get. See my point? because if he needs help and goes to say, Wikidex and he finds out he needs to go to "{{tt|Ciudad Calagua|Lylicove City}}" he won't know were the heck is taht :D. I '''reaaaaaaaaaaally''' think it's a good idea make another better encyclopedia for Pokémon fans from Latin America. [[User:YukitoOoO|YukitoOoO]] 04:20, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
::::::Yea, the games are in English are all over North America. But there's also redirects you can create. Also, as TTE said do we have a Commonwealth English wiki and an American English wiki? Yeah, English cities and characters are the same in all English versions. The point is a Bulbapedia in Spanish? That's what PokéTeca is. So the idea of a Latin American Spanish Wiki seems really dumb [retarded] as there already is one. Just create redirects to the Spanish names of the cities/characfters or go ask for the pages to also relate to the Latin American names to prevent any other confusion. --[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''ュウ!''']] 04:36, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
:::::::These CoolPikachu wrong. As you are Spanish and you're one of those users who manages Pokéteca, you put in a position of opposition. As I said at Pokéteca not believe in a wiki such as Spanish for the reasons mentioned above in addition to being administered by the Spanish, are closed with that stupid idea that these are the official names, they should be so when it is not correct. Are formal names, but only known within a European country, no other country but also all known names such translations are made by Nintendo Europe misconceptions that many of them are meaningless names that are not consistent with history as it should be. If you want a wiki in Spanish Pokémon, it must be neutral and use a nomenclature which is universally known that in this case are the names of USA. Why is it necessary to use the names of USA? 2 very important reasons. 1. They are the official names are designated by Nintendo and Pokémon USA are disseminated to the rest of the world, especially when it comes to the anime series. However, in Europe in general, as they are accustomed to doing them in wins, is dedicated to changing the names of characters and others is not something that seems right. 2. Latin America a region formed by a broad group of countries that speak Spanish but it handles things better, while Spain is a country which not only share similar customs with any other country. What is preferable? Use familiar names at the universal level, or using names known only within a single country while for a large region such as Latin America are not? Please realize just this question. What is more known, "Dragon Ball" or "Bola de Dragon"? As mentioned, I am part of a wiki, well I'm wrong with the date that this would debut in July but just debuted last week. This wiki is called [http://wiki.pkstadium.com "PkStadium Wiki"] which is managed by [http://www.pkstadium.com/ PkStadium], a Latin American fansite. As mentioned, the wiki using the nomenclature of USA, is subject to several policies that are used on wikis like Wikipedia, and in turn be given the freedom to use the contents of Bulbapedia for further information on the wiki and see if there the opportunity to be part of PE. --[[User:Toonamimaniacolatino|Toonamimaniacolatino]] 02:26, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::::Um. CP's Californian. He lives in the US and is in fact Latino. Like has been said before, what's so hard about using a wiki's internal redirect system? We don't plan on starting a commonwealth English version of BP, just so we can change the names of stuff like Special Defense to [[Special Defence]], or so the [[list of Pokémon by colour]] can have a u. That's just bollocks.
::::::::I know, PUSA severely screwed up when it came to the Spanish translation of the games, but Spanish is Spanish. You may not use vosotros at all in Latin America, but likewise, we don't have internet ''connexions'' in the US. Doesn't mean much of anything.
::::::::Also, as for the names being known more... um. That'd be like commanding Game Freak to start putting the games in English by default, since only Japan speaks Japanese. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 09:37, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

== Pokémon that can learn TMs ==

I've seen on a few move pages, like [[Frustration]], that "'''All''' Pokémon that can learn TMs can learn this move", so wouldn't it be a good idea to have a list or category of all pokémon that can learn TMs, and conversely a list or category of pokémon that can't learn TMs (like Magikarp). [[User:Jmvb|Jmvb]] 08:15, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
:Eh, I dunno. Most people will get it when they try to use Frustration on something useless like the karp. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:50, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
::I believe a "Pokémon that cannot learn any TMs" category could be really nice, for the sake of trivia. It's not hard to put together. [[User:Mr. Charlie|Mr. ]][[User talk:Mr. Charlie|Charlie]] 02:21, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
:::I believe they are Caterpie, Metapod, Weedle, Kakuna, Magikarp, Ditto, Unown, Wobbuffet, Wurmple, Silcoon, Cascoon, Wynaut, Burmy, Combee and Kricketot. Correct me if I'm wrong. [[User:Mr. Charlie|Mr. ]][[User talk:Mr. Charlie|Charlie]] 02:32, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
:::: There's also Beldum [[User:Jmvb|Jmvb]] 14:40, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
::::: There's also Smeargle and Feebas. [[User:EpicFail|EpicFail]] 19:56, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
::::::Smeargle yes. Feebas no. If I've missed anyone else, see [[Talk:TM|here]]. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:18, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
::::::: Whoops. If Feebas didn't know TMs, it would be a Magikarp.

==The White Rocks==

I think we should have an article that explains the white rocks shown in different riegons. It could include the confusion over Kanto's white rock, and it could explain that Hoenn has a white rock, but it doesn't seem to be important, etc. [[User:Igglybuff63|Igglybuff63]] 00:36, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
:There are two white rocks... one in Hoenn and one in Sinnoh... so what? That's not only on the GSDS page, but the one in Sinnoh is already explained in multiple articles pertaining to it's event. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 00:41, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
::The one in Hoenn isn't polished and shiny and crap. HGSS will show us what Oak meant... and likely give us the item Rowan's Letter. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:09, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

== Missing articles about the beta stage of games ==

Should articles about the beta of Pokémon Blue, Pokémon Yellow and Pokémon Crystal be made? Besides the beta article about HG/SS, since we only know that the games will be launched and with the first details to come in a few hours, these should be created. I made the question on the main article of the betas discussion page but haven't got an answer yet. I can help with research but first I'll need to know which tools to use. =P [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 17:53, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
:You didn't read it very well did you? R/G is practically the beta of Blue & Yellow, and G/S is basically the R/G for Crystal. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 18:19, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
::So? Emerald got its beta article, hasn't it? Thus, it makes sense to have, at least, an article about the beta of Crystal. [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 18:22, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
:::I realized that after I said that, but unless you know how to get the beta info for Crystal and Yellow, then the pages aren't gonna happen any time soon. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 18:26, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
::::That's the problem. I don't know how to get that information. But I'm interested in knowing, so if somebody can help me, I'll be very grateful. ;) [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 18:29, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
:::::I don't have a Gameshark or even the skills to hack everything out of Yellow. But I still don't think that we need one for them. Yellow was a special game, not really a third version, and Crystal is really not changed much from G/S, except for the storyline tweaks. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 18:32, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
::::::You still got VBA for some reason. Even so, I'm curious to know that. I think people didn't look for it because they considered the games too similar but it's no less interesting to find something about the changes. And I know that Yellow was a special version instead of a third version (although this only counts for Japan; it's considered a third version elsewhere). Still, it'd be thoughtful to at least try to find beta tracks of the mechanics that Game Freak used to make Pikachu the only Pokémon availabe outside of its Poké Ball as well as the basic happiness system. [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 18:45, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
:::::::VBA? And for the beta, somebody else here'll have to do it. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 18:50, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
::::::::Yes, the GBA emulator. And although it seems to be frustrating, I agree with you when it comes to who should make the research. :S [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 18:54, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

== Artwork ==

Should templates for the different artworks be created? I mean, throughout the years and generations, new artwork is made, so it should be good to have them all grouped, since it's more information that is present (and it's relevant, IMO). [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 18:07, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
:Yes, that's a great idea! If each Pokémon has a sprite template then I don't see why they can't have ones for artwork as well. The only problem is I don't really have enough knowledge of wikicode to make something like that just yet. Can someone help make one? [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 15:57, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
::if this wiki use semantic and semantic gallery, you can simple make a gallery of the artwork of one pokemon or something like that .. --[[User:Hanmac|Hanmac]]
:::We have links on each Pokémon infobox "Artwork on Bulbagarden Archives" That is where we show them. It makes it easier for us, because we aren't cramming hundreds of artworks onto the already filled pages. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 17:14, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

== Project Overgrow - Final stage ==

So HG/SS is slowing down the admin team, huh? Just kidding. =P But when we'll know the final step to complete Project Overgrow? [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 20:23, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
:When they feel like it, of course. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|You enter a poorly lit room...]] 20:25, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
::I imagine it'll be reopening the NFAs. --'''[[User:Alpha Totodile|Alpha]] [[Special:Contributions/Alpha Totodile|Totodile]][[User Talk:Alpha Totodile|RWAR!!]]''' 20:33, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
:::OK then. But since it's been a while since the article about it refers that phase V is going to be announced soon, I thought they should've announced it by now. [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 20:36, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
::::Mainly it's server issues that've been messing things up. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 09:01, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

== User Page Disaster!!! ==

What's happened to my user page? It's completely gone! It took ages to put it together and now I've got to start it all over again :( Is it because I went on holiday and didn't edit it for a while? [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 10:43, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
:it's.... fine.... the stuff is still there....--[[User:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Ho-Oh (Pokémon)|orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Lugia (Pokémon)|ire]] 10:45, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
::Yep, true. It's completely fine. Try refreshing the page. Maybe it refused to load. '''[[User:Kevzo8|Kev]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|zo8]]''' 10:46, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
:::Wikis been going crazy for a while. Hit refresh and it will be fine.--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 10:50, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
::::Ah yes, it's back again now! Sorry to bother you! [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 10:43, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

== ?? ==

Is anybody else having a problem with saving pages? I've had to save new users' talk pages to get the welcome on two or three times each, and I can't use preview, or else it goes to the "Editing Page" thing, for when you edit the whole page instead of a section. Just like what it did now, except I used save page... '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 22:02, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
:Yep. And pages with é in the title won't let you edit sometimes either. Obviously someone's playing with the server right now. Nothing major to worry about; it should hopefully be back soon. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 22:04, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
::Alright. My computer has been acting crappy lately, but I didn't think it would do this, so just asking. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 22:07, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
:::Whenever I load a page in Chrome, it alerts me that the page has an infinite redirect. [[User:PhoenixGraphix|Phoenix]][[User_Talk:PhoenixGraphix|Graphix]][[Special:Contributions/PhoenixGraphix|™]] 22:08, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

::::I've been having these problems too. I'm starting to think the system hates us. First the system rejects any notion of allowing any number of question marks in page titles (although it can be tricked into [[Is It Summer?|producing]] [[What Kind of Pokémon Are You?|results]] on certain pages that end with question marks), and now making it so we might have to try multiple times to complete any given action? (I myself had to try twice just to get this comment in!) It's as if the server's trying to revolt against {{u|Archaic}}! --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 03:44, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
:::::At times it's rejecting non-alphanumeric characters, too. Like if I try to search something like "User:Sol", it turns to User%235Sol or something of the sort. And at other times, editing pages with é in them will result in a "bad title" thing. It's really annoying. '''~ [[User:Sol|sol]][[User talk:Sol|ar]][[Special:Contributions/Sol|is]]''' 03:48, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
::::::I noticed that when I had to get to somebody's page yesterday... and yeah. All of the stuff you guys said is exactly what I was asking about. Crap... I just remembered I have to type the tildes now too... '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 12:51, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

== If anyone's wondering about the GS color scheme ==

I'm not planning on changing it back anytime soon. In fact, I'll likely leave it until July, at which time it'll be replaced by the Crystal one to celebrate its anniversary. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 07:42, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

== IE8 ==

I think that after all this server issues are solved and after Project Overgrow is complete, you guys should make Bulbagarden completely IE8-compatible because with the exception of the forums, all the other websites show me the Compatibility View option, meaning that they weren't updated in order to become fully compatible with IE's 8th version yet. [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 15:19, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

: Do you have any problems? Please, specify them. — [[User:Tenno Seremel|Tenno Seremel]] 15:47, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
::Considering IE8 was just released recently, I'd expect not everyone or everything has taken advantage of it yet. Also, keep in mind, we're running off of MediaWiki 1.14 software, and that any IE8 issues likely will be taken care of in 1.15. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:44, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
:::Moreover, considering IE8 is more advanced in terms of CSS than it's previous incarnations I'd say there shouldn't be many problems at all. — [[User:Tenno Seremel|Tenno Seremel]] 22:54, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

== How come all the pages are protected? ==

Doesn't it make more sense to require users to log in to edit?
EDIT: Whoops, double post. Sorry. {{unsigned|Magikarp123193}}
:It's already required for users to log in to edit, but there will still be some users who will do something stupid even when logged in, so pages are protected so not even logged-in users will mess it up. '''~ [[User:Sol|sol]][[User talk:Sol|ar]][[Special:Contributions/Sol|is]]''' 18:28, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
::It's also because of the server problems, users are sometimes logged off randomly, they hope to have it fixed shortly. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psychic''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]''''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 18:30, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
:::Oh, I didn't know he meant ''all'' the pages. '''~ [[User:Sol|sol]][[User talk:Sol|ar]][[Special:Contributions/Sol|is]]''' 18:32, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
::::lol Sol, it's in the title..."How come '''all''' the pages are protected?". I'm pretty sure that's what he meant... --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psychic''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]''''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 18:35, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
:::::I know that, but all can be used as a hyperbole, so that's why I italicized ''all'', to put more emphasis on it so it actually meant ''all''. *going smartical on you* '''~ [[User:Sol|sol]][[User talk:Sol|ar]][[Special:Contributions/Sol|is]]''' 18:38, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
::::::Ah, I see. <s>But being a user of {{p|Roserade}}, I am right in this matter...</s> I think it is referring to the server issues as it says all though as not all pages are protected and this user is a registered user. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psychic''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]''''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 18:41, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
:::::::He means when you get logged off while trying to edit the page, yes. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 19:18, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

== 503 ==

So I know that everyone was hoping that the 503s were fixed, but when I first got on a little bit ago, one of the first pages I went to I got 503'd on. Just throwing that out there if it hasn't been noted already. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 20:04, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
:Which one's the 503 error? The one that loses your changes when you try to edit?--'''[[Johto|☆]][[User:Alpha Totodile|A]][[User talk:Alpha Totodile|T]][[Special:Contributions/Alpha Totodile|♂]]''' 20:05, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

::No. The one where it says that a server is unavailable to recieve your data or something like that. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 20:08, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
:::whoops, I meant "the one that says the server lost your session data after an edit". Is that the one? --'''[[Johto|☆]][[User:Alpha Totodile|A]][[User talk:Alpha Totodile|T]][[Special:Contributions/Alpha Totodile|♂]]''' 20:11, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

== Vandalism? ==
I have noticed random acounts being made and vandalising the site. Anyone might have an idea when this will stop? -- [[User:Vhayes1992|Vhayes1992]] 18:33, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
:We're working on it. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 18:34, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

::Look at the Message From the Editor. Also look at [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/showpost.php?p=854473&postcount=9 this]. --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 18:35, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
It's obvious that the guy will not get anywhere with the vandilism, but is there any guesses on when the person will give up?-- [[User:Vhayes1992|Vhayes1992]] 18:46, 25 May 2009

::The fact that there's been about 300 blocked accounts in May alone is kind of... Almost unsettling in a way. Why would someone go to all that trouble to annoy and vandalize us? Seriously! But it does seem to be picking up at some times so it probably won't stop soon, but I hope it does. --[[User:Hey1031|Hey1031]] 23:35, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

== A question about a "rule"? ==

Alright, I was wondering why do we have the "No Multiple Accounts" rule? I mean, I can understand if a User uses another account to get around a ban or something but... Seriously? Why do we ban someone for having two accounts? Hardly any other websites do it, and I mean heck, [http://www.facepunch.com Facepunch] don't ban you for having alt/multiple accounts unless you're using them to spam or something, and Facepunch has always been a really strict forum. So yeah, why do we have this rule? Is there any '''good''' reason? [[User:Takoto|~~Takoto]] - [[User_talk:Takoto|サソデイ]] 23:39, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
:If someone wants to contribute, then one account surely is enough. If multiple accounts are made and left, then in an instance when the first account is blocked, the second account can be used to get around that block. They can be used in instances of voting; users can try and show a majority opinion for a majority point of view. [[Special:Contributions/Crest|This has been done before]]. Now, when they do have multiple accounts, we don't block them both - just one. They can still edit. Just because other sites do it doesn't mean we should too. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 23:55, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
:: Ditto. If someone just wants to edit then 1 account is good enough. If some one has multiple accounts, they have some reason for it. And it could be a bad one. (Vandalism) --Usyflad10 23:17, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

==About Pictures==
I'm a poster for pictures, I love to post for Shippings, Items, all of that. But, for some reason, I can't see my pictures after I put them in an article. I checked everything to make sure it works and it does, so what's the problem? P.S. Sometimes when I log off, I'm able to see the pictures.[[User:Tandra88|Tandra88]] 01:17, 27 May 2009 (UTC)tandra88
:We're having problems with the server the site is hosted on atm. As a result, some images aren't showing up. There are techs working on this problem; there shouldn't be anything major to worry about. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 01:44, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
:Ok thank you so much. I acually thought it was my computer but now I know. Thanks! :) [[User:Tandra88|Tandra88]] 14:42, 27 May 2009 (UTC)tandra88

==Log In==
I have a problem. Sometimes when I edit an article, I try to save it, but I can't because I get logged out. Also, when I click the log in button to sign back in, I look at the top and it's logged in. Is something wrong?[[User:Tandra88|Tandra88]] 19:28, 27 May 2009 (UTC)tandra88
:New comments to the bottom of the page. And technically 98% of these questions should be directed at the Bulbawiki forum.... but the logout problem is yet another server flaw. We're hoping it won't hang around for too much longer. (Incidentally, I've never been logged out...) — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 19:39, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
::I've been seeing that too. I just keep telling it to save until it does. Sometimes it takes ten tries, sometimes it goes on the first try. --[[User:Galladeon|Galladeon]] 19:41, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
::: A few days ago, I kept getting logged out every 5 minutes, but when I click again, I was logged in again. This hasn't really been a problem since then but it was really frustrating trying to edit articles. --[[User:Hey1031|Hey1031]] 22:07, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
::::This is really annoying when I'm trying to upload sprites. Even making this comment took a while because of this problem.--[[User:Pokelova|''I'm Pokelova'']][[User talk:Pokelova|<big>''(Talk)''</big>]] 04:43, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
:::::Yeah that happened to me. I just enabled cookies for Bulbapedia and my account never got logged out. If you don't know how to enable cookies, look for the help section on your internet browser. --Usyflad 10 23:08, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

== Sockpuppets ==
There have been alot of new users with similiar names in the last few minutes and they seem like sockpuppets. Darkmaster0 17:13, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
:Oh, no. Grawp's at it again. [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] wants YOU! [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch/Bulbapedia Branch|Join the Order of the Glitch!]] [[User talk: Missingno. Master|(my talk page)]] 17:16, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
::Is it possible to just disallow the creation of new accounts for a while? It's rather annoying when I want to make an edit and can't because the admins locked the database because some idiot keeps making sockpuppets. --[[User:Galladeon|Galladeon]] 19:45, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
:::Trust me, that's on the cards. We just have to get in touch with the right person. Locking account creation is, apparently, harder than you think. Also, locking the database is, and always has been, the last resort. Our last goal here is to disadvantage the editors. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 19:50, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
::::That isn't the database, that's the server transition. One of them is locked because that one is only being used for archival purposes and we aren't paying for editing functions there. Until all the info is transferred, there will be locked database glitches and session losses, so please hang tight until things are finished.--[[User:RexRacer|'''Rex]][[User talk:RexRacer|Racer''']] 19:54, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
::::::Dammit... Why can't {{tt|he|grawp}} just leave us alone? --[[User:Galladeon|Galladeon]] 05:08, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Because he's probably a pimpled face nerd who lives in his mother's basement and has nothing to do and gets off on creating sockpuppets on Bulbapedia. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 05:12, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
Don't compliment him like that. --[[User:Galladeon|Galladeon]] 05:16, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
:Shshsh. He can see all because he has no life and wishes to get ****ed.--[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''ュウ!''']] 05:17, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
::Someday (hopefully soon), he'll run out of IPs to use, then there will be a massive party on Bulbapedia. --[[User:Galladeon|Galladeon]] 05:20, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
:::He'll stop when he's 50.--[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''ュウ!''']] 05:21, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
::::Ugh, this is annoying. Another lockdown? '''~ [[User:Sol|sol]][[User talk:Sol|ar]][[Special:Contributions/Sol|is]]''' 05:22, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
:::::He'll never live to be fifty if decent Bulbapedians can track him down... --[[User:Galladeon|Galladeon]] 05:24, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
::::::Okay guys, I'm gonna request that this topic be closed now. Thanks, --[[User:RexRacer|'''Rex]][[User talk:RexRacer|Racer''']] 05:25, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
== Help! ==

Can someone tell me on how to make a user page? I've been trying to find a help page but I can't find any![[User:Kingofun|Kingofun]] 05:25, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
:Calm down. People aren't watcing every page at every instant. This is the internet, and nothing is so urgent that you need to post 3 times in 4 minutes. As a general rule, as the number of people on will depend on your time zone, only start to worry about not getting a response after about 24 hours.

:Anyway, to make a user page click on your sig. It will take you to a page saying that this page does not yet exist, but you can create it. Put the wikicode in the box, just like for this page, and remember to preview it before you save to check that it is working how you want it. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] 05:44, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

== What the fridge?! ==

Lately I've been getting 503 errors, some stuff about no server being available. It's not particularly irksome as it doesn't happen too often, but still, I thought this was supposed to be taken care of with that maintenence the site underwent a few weeks ago? And just now, there's that loss of session data! Just now! Wasn't that supposed to stop after the maintenance? [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] wants YOU! [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch/Bulbapedia Branch|Join the Order of the Glitch!]] [[User talk: Missingno. Master|(my talk page)]] 01:21, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
:Oh, and when is the final thing for Project Overgrow being revealed? I would've thought sometime last month... [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] wants YOU! [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch/Bulbapedia Branch|Join the Order of the Glitch!]] [[User talk: Missingno. Master|(my talk page)]] 01:23, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
::It's taking a little longer to hammer out than we expected. Should be soon. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:24, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Oh, OK, thanks. And the final phase of Project Overgrow? [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] wants YOU! [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch/Bulbapedia Branch|Join the Order of the Glitch!]] [[User talk: Missingno. Master|(my talk page)]] 01:25, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

== Sign Up! ==

This may sound stupid, but my nephew want's to join Bulbapedia but I forgot how! Can someone tell me how to sign up for a account on Bulbapedia???[[User:Kingofun|Kingofun]] 05:40, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
:He can't. Account creation is disabled temporarily. We'll let you know when it comes back online. Until then, he's just going to have to browse. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 06:45, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
::I was wondering why there were no attacks. I didn't even notice that there weren't any new users coming in. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 06:51, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Yep. Grawp's gone global now. Pokéwiki, Wikinezka and even pokemon.wiki have had an introduction to our giant buddy. And of course, 'nezka have no admins online. Ever. Isn't that just grand? — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 07:01, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
Oh, ok thanks for telling me! My nephew's going to be really be bummed out. [[User:Kingofun|Kingofun]] 05:38, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
:Wow. When did this "cut-off" start? I just made an account a couple weeks ago. -Usyflad10

== Help! ==

I keep getting a message saying my edit could not be saved due to loss of session data or something like that. Does anyone know what I can do to fix this? [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 09:48, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
:Three options. Either press F5 and refresh the page, click back and save it again, or start over. Don't worry, you aren't the only person this is happening to. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 10:16, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
::The F5 method worked a treat. Thanks! [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 15:57, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

== -webkit ==

Do you guys know about this? I see you have -moz-border-radius implemented, but there is also -webkit-border-radius, -moz-border-shadow, and -webkit-border-shadow.--'''[[User:Prmatt11|''Mew'']]* [[User talk:Prmatt11|a.k.a.]] [[Special:Contributions/Prmatt11|Prmatt11]]''' was here at 13:28, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

:Yeah. BTW, if we are using -prefixed version of a CSS property it should be used as (I'm using border-radius here as an example): -prefixed1-border-radius, -prefixed2-border-radius, border-radius. i.e. we should include non-prefixed version of the property itself *after* prefixed ones. — [[User:Tenno Seremel|Tenno Seremel]] 14:46, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
::How come?--'''[[User:Prmatt11|''Mew'']]* [[User talk:Prmatt11|a.k.a.]] [[Special:Contributions/Prmatt11|Prmatt11]]''' was here at 20:31, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

:::It's future-proofing. Some time in the future border-radius will became a standard and "border-radius" will work, while prefixed versions will be turned off. — [[User:Tenno Seremel|Tenno Seremel]] 08:37, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

== Pronunciation for pokemon ==

I don't know if this was already suggested but i think adding a pronunciation button or one of those pronunciation keys like: [pruh-nuhn-see-ey-shuhn] could improve Bulbapedia a lot. Just a suggestion. --Usyflad10 20:38, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

:Not really. The anime, Battle Revolution, and other things have differences in how they pronounce the names. There's really no solid pronunciation for some Pokémon. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 03:26, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
::Just look through The Pokemon Sinnoh handbook or any pokemon handbook for official English pronunciations. --[[User:Vhayes1992|Vhayes1992]] 21:36, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
:::The books are known for their errors. For example, how the <s>f*ck</s> heck is Delibird a legendary? --[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/|'''エ'''][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 21:38, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
::::You got me there! --[[User:Vhayes1992|Vhayes1992]] 22:02, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
:::::Pronunciation also changes depending on where you're from.--[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/|'''エ'''][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 23:33, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
Yeah I know that there are books but they make lots of errors. Even if there are multiple pronunciations we could include all of them. --Usyflad10 20:38, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

:No. Because we'd have to find them all. Find how everybody says them. Find the location of where it's said like that (game, book, country/region/state). And THEN add them all to the pages. That would take hours of useless work. Heck, not even Wikipedia, the "We have it all!" encyclopedia has pronunciations for {{tt|most articles|none of the crappy Pokémon ones have it either}}. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 13:53, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

oh okay. --Usyflad10 20:38, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

== Help me please. ==

I'm not sure how to link my user page to my signature. Can somebody tell me how?--Usyflad10 23:30, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
:Do you sign with four tildes? [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|You enter a poorly lit room...]] 23:32, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
Well i press the signature button --Usyflad10 23:34, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
::[[Special:Preferences|here]]. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 23:42, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
Yeah i know you change your signature there but i dont know how to make it my user page. --Usyflad10 23:59, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

[[User:Usyflad10|Usyflad10]] ([[User talk:Usyflad10|talk]])

Copy the coding from the edit window. That should do it. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 00:03, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks i hope it works --Usyflad10 05:53, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

==News==
It may just be me, or it might be intentional but it seems like all of the news articles except the top one aren't there. [[User:STHedgehog|STHedgehog]] 15:15, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
:And now they're all gone. I think someone is deleting the news articles. [[User:STHedgehog|STHedgehog]] 15:16, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
::No, the News Updater on Bulbanews encoutered an error. It should be fixed within the next 15 minutes. Just hang tight until then. --[[User:Landfish7| Land]][[User talk:Landfish7|fish]][[User talk:Landfish7|7]] 17:16, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Will ya look on the forums? It is not on purpose, it will not be fixed in 15 minutes, sadly. However, I will change that notice.--'''[[User:Prmatt11|''Mew'']]* [[User talk:Prmatt11|a.k.a.]] [[Special:Contributions/Prmatt11|Prmatt11]]''' was here at 17:35, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
::::Thank you, the news is back now. [[User:STHedgehog|STHedgehog]] 22:58, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

== Countdown?? ==

I don't know if i missed the news or something but why is there a countdown to september 12 2009. Is it when a game comes out? --[[User:Usyflad10|[[User:Usyflad10|Usyflad10]]]] 02:09, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
:HGSS kid. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psychic''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]''''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 02:11, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
yeah i just looked at the article in BulbaNews. Sorry :( {{unsigned|Usyflad10}}

Do you think the countdown should be a bit smaller? It is rather dominating. [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 16:47, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
:It's the way it's set up. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:01, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

== 503 and 504 errors -_- ==

This is getting annoying. First we have the "lost session data" error. And then we have these things. 503 says that no server was available. 504 says something about not being on time or whatever. It is really messed up. It ended up making me do three edits instead of two on [[Counter]]. Is this just me . . . >:( --[[User:Landfish7| Land]][[User talk:Landfish7|fish]][[User talk:Landfish7|7]] 17:46, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
:Nevermind, it's fixed. --[[User:Landfish7| Land]][[User talk:Landfish7|fish]][[User talk:Landfish7|7]] 17:55, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
::In the future, please direct your techical problems to [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/showthread.php?t=39109 this thread]. Thank you.--[[User:RexRacer|'''Rex]][[User talk:RexRacer|Racer''']] 18:07, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
::: Is it fixed? I had that 503 error thing come up today. --[[image:MD004F.png]] [[User:Usyflad10|Usyflad10]] ([[User talk:Usyflad10|talk]]) [[image:MD004F.png]] 06:04, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
::::Clearly, if the error came up, it is not fixed. We do not know when this will be fixed, but be assured it is being worked on. I'll bump Rex's comment about how we shouldn't be commenting about this here. Thank you. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 07:39, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

== More error driven goodness ==

I keep getting logged out and logged back in and I can't make many edits at all. --[[User:Landfish7| Land]][[User talk:Landfish7|fish]][[User talk:Landfish7|7]] 14:38, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
:Are you talking about the lost session data error that I keep getting? If you are, just continue trying to save the edit until it does. --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 14:44, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
::No I'm not talking about {{tt|that|that crap that is very annoying}}. I'm talking about how it keeps logging me out. I even pressed the "remember me" check-off box and it still logs me off as soon as I press {{tt|show preview|or save page}}. It makes it so I can't edit at all. This isn't just me it is happening to some others too. I was lucky for it to work this time. --[[User:Landfish7| Land]][[User talk:Landfish7|fish]][[User talk:Landfish7|7]] 14:59, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
:::Has anyone said that this is fixed? No. Direct tchical questions to the thread I linked above please. Further disregard of the system will result in consequences.--[[User:RexRacer|'''Rex]][[User talk:RexRacer|Racer''']] 15:01, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
::::The same thing is happening to me, but I had to log in so many times times, because every time I would, it would log me right back out. -_- Its almost a miracle I could get on now. --[[User:Hey1031|Hey1031]] 19:48, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

That happened to me but i fixed it. You have to enable cookies for Bulbapedia to stay logged in. if you hav a windows go to internet options then security then to trusted sites. Add Bulbapedia. --[[User:Usyflad10|Usyflad]] [[User talk:Usyflad10|10]] 23:09, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

== Sorry for my Stupidity ==

I dont quite understand the release date of september 12. Is that when HGSS comes out for Japan? Or America? If Japan, when does it come out in America? Sorry. --[[User:Usyflad10|Usyflad]] [[User talk:Usyflad10|10]] 21:39, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
:JST would likely imply Japan. Why would it come out in the US that soon? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 21:43, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

== I noticed an error on some Supreme Victors/Beat of the Frontier card pages. ==

The thing above the page says the cards won't be released in English. Could you make a new thing like that that says that it was released in Japan and ''will'' be released in English? Pretty please with a Pecha Berry on top? - ''unsigned comment from {{u|Magikarp123193}} ([[User talk:Magikarp123193|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Magikarp123193|contribs]]) ''
:The [[Template:TCG Unreleased|notice in question]] says "'''''may''''' not be released outside of Japan". You're implying it reads "'''''will''''' not be released outside of Japan". We don't switch to [[Template:TCG Pre-prerelease|a notice for impending English release]] until the card is 100% confirmed to come out in English--which is when an English scan of the card comes around. No English scan means no guarantee the card'll come out in English. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 14:33, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

== Wanted articles list ==

I was looking through the wanted articles list and noticed a couple talk pages, and I probably would've seen more if I'd kept looking. Should they be on there? If not, is there a way to make it not display those? --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 14:22, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

:Are those talk pages for Pokémon in the anime? [[Template:Questionable Notability]] links to the talk page of any page that includes the notice tag, done so as a means to encourage discussion to try to make a case either for or against notability. [[Template:Delete]] also links to talk pages as well. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 14:29, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

::I'm talking about [[Special:WantedPages|this list.]] --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 14:33, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

:::So was I. The notice tags in question will add the talk pages to the wanted pages if the talk pages don't exist. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 14:38, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
::::Ah. Okay. --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 14:38, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

BTW, could an admin look at the {{TP|Zoey|Zoey's Misdreavus|Misdreavus}} page and talk page and probably delete them/turn the page into a redirect? --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 20:48, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

== template page?? ==

Is there a page that lists all the templates or at least tells you how to make one? --[[User:Usyflad10|Usyflad]][[User talk:Usyflad10|10]] 00:09, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
:{{cat|Templates}}. Other than that, often you can start with a similar template that already exists and modify it. What did you have in mind?--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 00:51, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

== [[Bulbapedia:Usertag policy]] ==

Could a Userspace Usertag category be created and applied to relevant tags so that users can find them? It would help in the process of getting them approved. --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 05:50, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

== Johto tag? ==

Does anyone know what code I need to type in to add the "This user's favourite region is Johto" user tag to my page? [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 15:59, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
:{{template|User Favorite Region}}: Check the template page, and follow the instructions, - [[User:Kogoro|'''<sc>Kogoro</sc>''']] '''|''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''<sc>Talk to me</sc>''']] - 16:04, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

OK, thanks! [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 16:48, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

== Glichy ==

the Bulbapedia logo vanished.--[[User:Tobytse99|tobytse]] 05:57, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

:I mean, it is like that the Achieve database is down--[[User:Tobytse99|tobytse]] 06:01, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
::Currently being upgraded, don't freak out. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:01, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

== Anyone else experiencing this? ==

I realize that the wiki has probably been undergoing some upgrading. But nearly everytime I try to edit something, it redirects me to the "Page cannot save, try logging out and back in' message or whatever it is. And I have to sit there constantly pressing save page just to get it to save. And yet it's like everyone else can still edit the pages without any trouble. Is anyone else experiencing this? [[User:Mudkipchan|Mudkipchan]] 00:27, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

:It's a known issue, yes, and affects everyone, not just you. The problem generally goes away if you hit save a few times, so until it's fixed, you'll just need to work around it. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 04:34, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

:Yes, I've been getting that problem too, and sometimes it makes me lose everything I've just typed! But here's some advice: paste everything you typed into a document first, then click "Save". That way, if you get the error message, you don't have to type it all out again. [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 09:50, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
::Are both of you using Firefox? I've found that Firefox usually saves things like that, so you don't have to worry about losing what you just typed. --Posted by [[User:Pikamander2|Pikamander2]] [[User Talk:Pikamander2|(Talk)]] at 12:00, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

:::I use Firefox 3.5, yes. And it "holds" entered data like that for you, so if you accidentally leave the page, you can generally hit the back button and still retain your writing. (not on all websites, however.) --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 22:54, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
::::This should have been resolved, though, with the updates to the software. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 23:03, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

I am facing the same problem too.
--♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''niz''']]♪♫ 07:00, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
:What browser are you using Adyniz?--[[User:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Ho-Oh (Pokémon)|orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Lugia (Pokémon)|ire]] 07:02, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

== PNGs ==

I've noticed that a lot of the animated images on Bulbapedia, like the Pokémon game icons, are being replaced with PNG versions. Is this really necessary? It's spoiling all the fun for everyone who can't see PNG animations on their computers. The GIFs looked fine as they were. I know it's an encyclopedia, but sometimes fun is more important than quality isn't it? [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 09:55, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
:On Bulbapedia, quality is more important that "fun". That said, there is no difference between animated GIFs and APNGs, aside from which browsers can see both. --Posted by [[User:Pikamander2|Pikamander2]] [[User Talk:Pikamander2|(Talk)]] at 11:55, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
::Actually, the image quality in AniPNGs is quite a bit higher than that of GIFs. -- '''[[User:evkl|evkl]]''' [[User_talk:evkl|(need to talk?)]] 13:05, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

But my browser can't see PNG animations! It's not fair! [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 12:51, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
:Sorry, but it's kind of the nature of the internet that not everyone will get all features. Stuff that renders "right" in IE is standards-broken and won't render properly in standards compliant browsers. Getting Firefox is generally a Good Idea if you're currently on IE-Firefox 3.5 is a superb browser, the best Mozilla has put out in ages. We can't please everybody, and as I said, the .gif image quality is unacceptably low. -- '''[[User:evkl|evkl]]''' [[User_talk:evkl|(need to talk?)]] 13:19, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
::Even more Opera seems to have support for APNGs too (maybe others can do it too). So there is actually a choice. Going from IE to any other (non-IE-based) browser is a good idea anyway. — [[User:Tenno Seremel|Tenno Seremel]] 22:37, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

== Why? ==

um, why is the main page crystal-themed now? do we have some other info about something else? [[User:Empath-Silvio|Empath-Silvio]] 15:23, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
:Honestly, I have no idea. But please remember to sign your comments with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). Thanks! -- '''[[User:evkl|evkl]]''' [[User_talk:evkl|(need to talk?)]] 13:35, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

::Honestly, there's only [[User:TTEchidna|one person]] I know who'd be able to pull something like this off...--[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 14:13, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
:::Crystal came out in North-America around this time.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 14:53, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

== Humans ==

I can't seem to find an article on humans here. Is there one at all? [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 17:15, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

:it's not really needed [[User:Ultamatecharizard|Ultamate]][[User Talk:Ultamatecharizard|Charizard]] 00:38, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

:You mean like what are humans? no, that's really not needed. [[User:Empath-Silvio|Empath-Silvio]] 14:41, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
::No, I mean an article detailing the cultural and possible religious background of humans in the franchise. I understand that as of this point, the information is rather lax, but a real glimpse into the "Pokemon world" has been increasingly revealing as the generations go on.

::If it's not disagreed on, I think an article detailing the cultural, technological, and religious development of humans in relation to Pokemon would be very interesting to read. Notable examples include the anime episodes The Ghost of Maiden's Peak, which suggests a Japanese-influenced culture and war, and The Ancient Puzzle of Pokémopolis, which suggests Pokemon were once worshiped as gods (this same idea is suggested in the Eletric Tale of Pikachu chapter on Sabrina and the giant haunter, Black Fog).

::From the games themselves, a rich mythological-cultural background can be seen in G/S/C with the Burned and Tin towers, as well as the monks in the Bellsprout Tower. Arceus being a Pokemon and a god in the fourth gen storyline also clearly suggests more for humans as well as Pokemon... Does anyone see what I'm getting at? [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 14:48, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
:::I see what your saying... but... I don't know, it might not be a good idea. You may want to talk to an admin first. I'd say it's a good idea, but yeah... [[User:Takoto|~~Takoto]] - [[User_talk:Takoto|サソデイ]] 15:07, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

::::My main problem with that article is that it would be mostly speculation, and that the different canons constantly contradict each other is those subjects... But here's an idea: how about you create such a page in your userspace (as a subpage), work on it, and if it's good - we'll consider mainspacing it. If you really want to, that is. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 16:40, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::Yes, it would probably be speculation if we made unnecessary leaps... I'm currently playing through Blue, then Silver and so on, so I'll be sure to take any notes relevant. One thing that stands out is the Rocket member in Mt. Moon that says Pokemon came before humans, so that would easily be an interesting point if elaborated on later. (I also think it interesting to note that there's a "timeline" of events in the Pokemon universe somewhere on this encyclopedia, which appears to be speculative in nature. Suggesting cavemen made the Regis is pretty... off) [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 16:46, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

::::::i see where this is going. i agree it would be an interesting article, but it will be very difficult to write. as i understand it, you have to see each and every episode, because you cannot just pick an episode or two, and summarize everything. also, i agree it will be mainly speculation. but i think it will be a great article to read. if you have the patience to write it, that is. i offer my help in the games, i have played them all and have access to them. notify me! [[User:Empath-Silvio|Empath-Silvio]] 23:16, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::::If you, or anyone else, can help I'd be greatly appreciative. I'm mostly concerned with the games, since the anime has become more culturally-neutral following the first three seasons to make it more accessible in other nations where dubbing can't hide "donuts". So I have little issue with that, but with the games it can be a lot harder because of over-looked things.

:::::::The Rocket grunt that says humans came after Pokemon in Mt. Moon is a fine example, though I believe this was confirmed or clarified in other generations. It's the little things we need to look into, such as the Channelers in first gen (suggestive of a cult presence), and the monks in second (suggestive of religious, or philosophical, organizations). Bulbapedia is our obvious resource, with 'Dex entries suggestive of festivals, legends, and areas being a key source of information, so if anyone wants to help we can compile human-related information on my talk page and work towards filling something out. [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 23:30, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

If there are no ordinary animals in the Pokémon world, does that mean the humans evolved from Pokémon? [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 10:10, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
::An interesting theory, which is at least partially backed by the Lake Trio, but if you want to look for hints to fully confirm I'd recommend playing DPPt or waiting until gen V. I imagine gen V will take a look into the history of humans, as fourth has looked into that of Pokemon. [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 18:40, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
This has now gone off-topic. A reminder to all we have a whole [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/index.php forum] for conversations like this. If you wish to continue, please go there. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 19:30, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

== I have a question. ==

Look, I've been wondering this for ages now, and it's starting to annoy me. Why is the official art so... small? In terms of pixels, it's tiny. And it's really annoying when I'm looking for reference on what a Pokémon looks like, I can barely see it. So yeah, why do we use really tiny versions of the official art rather than clearer, bigger versions? And I don't think it's because you can't find a bigger version of the art, seeing as it would be easy too get one of the official books and scan in the official art and upload it. And I'm sure there's bigger versions of the art on the internet. I'm just wondering is there any real reason we use such small versions? [[User:Takoto|~~Takoto]] - [[User_talk:Takoto|サソデイ]] 20:52, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
:The ''art'' were using is from the official dex on pokemon.co.jp. But, since there isn't any ''art'' on the main page, I guess that you're referring to the animated ''sprites'' in the top corner of every box. You see, in-battle sprites would be too big, not to mention the gender differences. So, we're using the smaller sprites used in the [[PC]] and [[party]] instead. [[User:Pokémon Lover King Mario|Pokémon Lover King Mario]] 13:47, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Bulbapedia:Project TCG

2009-08-09T20:03:32Z

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{{Project leader|{{u|Maverick Nate}}}}
[[Image:Project TCGDex logo.png|right|200px]]
Some Bulbapedia members have formed a [[Bulbapedia:Project|project]] to better organize efforts to write and improve articles about '''Pokémon Trading Cards'''. If you would like to help, please inquire on the [[{{NAMESPACE}} talk:{{PAGENAME}}|talk page]] or the [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/forumdisplay.php?f=195 Bulbapedia forum].

==Project TCGdex==
===Scope and aims===
'''Project TCGDex''' covers all entries and articles about every Pokémon cards, Trainer cards and Energy Cards from the Pokémon Trading Card Game. Its goal is to produce the most comprehensive database on all Pokémon Trading Cards, from basic information on to the most technical aspects possible.

===Participants===
To join the project, simply add your name to the bottom of this list:
:A name in italics is for an active admin; a name in bold is for an active user. Also, active users who know a lot about the project are at the top under the founder.
* '''{{U|Plau}}''' - Founder; return from the dead, quite a few old cards. Adding anything that's missing.
* '''''{{U|Maverick Nate}}''''' - Various things that will hopefully get done soon. {{bp|Project Leaders|Project Leader}}.
* '''''{{U|Cipher}}''''' - Preparing articles for the release of {{TCG|Bonds to the End of Time}} in May 2009. PUI caught me out with Platinum.
* ''{{U|shiningpikablu252}}'' - Working on various odds and ends. Will hopefully work on card articles for future English sets when the time comes. Also does some of TTEchidna's dirty work. Given that most of my physical card collection consists of cards whose articles already have images, you won't be seeing many images from me...
* ''{{U|Politoed666}}'' - Working on occasional needed scans, occasionally writing articles.
* ''{{U|TTEchidna}}'' - Making sure everything runs smoothly.
* ''{{U|Kogoro}}'' - Tons of cards from {{TCG|Base Set}} to {{TCG|Stormfront}}, planning to scan as many as possible!
* '''{{U|JessTehSkox}}''' - Been working on a lot of older card articles....mostly the Origins sections, since it seemed odd to have such a section on all the TCG articles that's completely empty on 95% of them!
* '''{{U|Ultamatecharizard}}''' - I got a big drawer of cards and I'll help out little by little.
* {{U|Jason}}
* {{U|PhoenixZero}}
* {{U|Punkrockrevel}}
* {{U|Arri}} - If there's anything specific that you want me to do, just write. So far, Im just adding where I see.
* {{U|Jts21}}
* {{U|Netto-kun}}
* {{U|Groudon465}}
* {{U|Tina}}
* {{U|Pachirisulover12}}
* {{U|Berrymaster}}
* {{U|thevictor390}}
* {{U|Drapion}}
* {{U|PokePal}}
* {{U|KriZ}}
* {{U|Puff}} - Trying to help with Typo's and older cards.
* {{U|Xaigon paladin}}
* {{U|Christiangamer7}}
* {{U|Lemonnlime}}
* {{U|Lavacrust}}
* {{U|SupremeBlisseyFan}}
* {{U|Charmander234}}
* {{U|Icelilly}}
* {{U|H4r8z0r}}
* {{U|** LV X **}} - I've got loads of old cards, so am putting in some missing images
* {{U|emo-fairy}} -i have a few cards
* {{U|ShinjiLover}}: Whenever I can work, I'll see what I got!
* {{U|Runey676}}: Have some cards to upload, every little helps I guess.
* {{U|Salmesectra}}: Have a bunch of old and new cards. Can't wait to start!
* {{u|DAWN FAN}}
* {{u|Darkrai Master}} sorry if my pics are too small and crooked
* {{U|Xihtro}}
* {{U|Pikawitchu}} I'm adding images that are needed.
* {{U|Cold}}
* {{U|Substy}}
* {{U|Akivalevi}}
* {{U|Sivart345}} --Been fixing the templates.
* {{U|Zedbill}} Adding Pictures where I can.
* {{U|Water555}} Doing what I can
* {{U|BumpyBuddy}} - Got some rare cards. Going to a prerelease tournament soon.
* {{U|Yankee217}}- no promises but I'll try!
* {{U|EpicFail}}- Got a bunch of Hoenn cards and some odds and ends. Fixing some gaps.

===Structure===

===Goals===
# Create Pokémon Trading Card pages. The [[Dark Metal Energy (TCG)]] and [[Charizard (Base Set 4)]] page are good examples.

===Infoboxes===
* {{Template|PokémoncardInfobox}}
** {{Template|PokémoncardInfobox/Expansion}}
** {{Template|PokémoncardInfobox/Footer}}

* {{Template|TrainercardInfobox}}
** {{Template|TrainercardInfobox/ReleaseInfo}}
** {{Template|TrainercardInfobox/Expansion}}
** {{Template|TrainercardInfobox/Footer}}

* {{Template|EnergyCardInfobox}}
** {{Template|EnergyCardInfobox/Expansion}}
** {{Template|EnergyCardInfobox/Footer}}

===Other templates===
* {{Template|Project TCG notice}} - to be used at the bottom of every Pokémon article.
{{Project TCGDex notice}}

* {{Template|User Project TCGDex}} - for project participants to place in their user profile.
{{User Project TCGDex}}
 

====Link templates====
These link templates are particularly useful for making lists of the cards available in the different sets or theme decks.
* {{Template|TCG}} - This link template is for cards which appear widely in the game, such as energy cards. To use this link template, type in <nowiki>{{TCG|Card Name}}</nowiki>. For example, <nowiki>{{TCG|Dark Metal Energy}}</nowiki> would result in {{TCG|Dark Metal Energy}}.
* {{Template|TCG ID}} - This link template is for cards which appear in only certain sets, such as Pokémon cards and trainer cards. To use this link template, type in <nowiki>{{TCG ID|Set Name|Card Name|Number}}</nowiki>. For example, <nowiki>{{TCG ID|Base Set|Charizard|4}}</nowiki> would result in {{TCG ID|Base Set|Charizard|4}}.
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== Pokémon PC Master ==

Bulbapedia has [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pokémon_PC_Master this information] about the game and Wikipedia has [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pokémon_PC_Master this information] about the same game. Which one is correct? I'd assume Wikipedia is correct because I've seen the Japanese version of [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/The_Mastermind_of_Mirage_Pokémon ''The Mastermind of Mirage Pokémon''] and in the commercials before the episode started, there was one announcing Pokémon PC Master and it corresponds to what Wikipedia sintectically says about its purpose. It had a [http://www.pokemon-pcmaster.com/ website] but it no longer works -- [http://web.archive.org/web/20071001114406/http://www.pokemon-pcmaster.com/ here] you can find the most recent copy of the website available on the Internet Archive. Please help me figure out so the article can be corrected. [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 16:30, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
:BTW, I've found [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pokémon_games_for_PC this] on Wikipedia. [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 16:43, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

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Can someone help me with this issue, please? [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 14:05, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

== what happened to project overgrow? ==

the next part of it was supposed to be announced yesterday [[User:Ultamatecharizard|Ultamate]][[User Talk:Ultamatecharizard|Charizard]] 14:06, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
:Tomorrow... [[User:MathijsP|MathijsP]] 16:24, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
::Patience is a virtue. And silence is golden. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 09:36, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
:::And we're somewhat behind schedule. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 09:42, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
::::Yeah i didnt get the whole Project Overgrow thing. Is it over? --Usyflad10 23:11, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

==About a New Shipping==
I thought of a new shipping and I don't know how to make it or start it. May somebody help me or work with me to make it?[[User:Tandra88|Tandra88]] 22:11, 27 March 2009 (UTC)tandra88

== 403 Error ==

Not sure where to post this, but usually, and on a daily basis, the first few times I try to load up this Wiki, I get an Access Forbidden & 403 error. Is this a server-related problem? Does the website not work at certain times during the day? [[User:QTR|QTR]] 23:48, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
:That just means that the server is currently down, and is being repaired. Not to worry, it's not uncommon. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User Talk:Theryguy512|512]]''' 23:50, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
::Well it happened about 30 minutes ago or so, not sure exactly how long, that's just a guess-timate. About 5 minutes later, I was able to connect. [[User:QTR|QTR]] 23:50, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
:::Yeah, it's off and on as our webmaster tries to find a permanent fix to the problem. It's been down recently due to the large number of edits you guys have all been making. So, just wait it out. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 02:05, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

== Wait... ==

Why are the tags <sc></sc> visible on the second and bottom headers? -[[User:Jayc|Jayc]] 14:53, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
:Bulbawiki is glitchy at the moment, so you might really see something wrong, and that includes codes that are not working. '''►[[User:Kevzo8|Ҝə]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|υz]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|ø8]]''' 14:55, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

::Just for the record, the tags made visible by the glitch allow text to be displayed in <sc>{{wp|small caps}}</sc>, allowing characters to be inputted in lowercase, but be displayed in uppercase at the same height as a typical lowercase character (i.e. "a" is a typical lowercase character, but "b" isn't due to its height). --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 14:59, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

== Classification? ==

Something came to my mind a few days ago, how do we classify the Pokémon games? RPG, or JRPG? I mean, technically, they'd be JRPG's right, seeing as they're made in Japan, and not only that but are similar in many ways too other JRPG's. Like the battle systems, the only difference is in most JRPG's you play humans, but in Pokémon you play a human, and through them you command the Pokémon. What do you guys think? [[User:Takoto|~~Takoto]] - [[User_talk:Takoto|サソデイ]] 12:19, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

:Either way, they're still RPGs; "JRPG" is sort of a sub-category within that. If you made a duplicate of Pokémon in the 'States, it would just be a RPG, not a JRPG (despite sharing all the styles and gameplay). So I think we can just avoid the confusion and/or debate on that topic right there by simply classifying it as an RPG. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 13:18, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

::Technically it's a console RPG, but that term is now archaic. [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 18:17, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

== I had to cheat it to get me confirmed ==

Why do you have to be email-confirmed and a logged-in user to edit pages here? Other wikis let you edit anonymously or without being email-confirmed. --[[User:HideInTheDark|HideInTheDark]] 02:42, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
:Because we don't want morons coming by and vandalizing. Makes it a lot harder to vandalize if you have to register sock emails, since then only the hardcore trolls go through with it. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:46, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
::Ditto what the Echidna-in-chief said about the socks, but also, because we don't want to be like [http://pokemon.wikia.com/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_Wiki other wikis] and have hordes of badly maintained articles. This way, we know that anyone who wants to contribute is serious about it (or should be serious), and we can have the ''best'' information ever. It also lets us know who says what, and issue punishments and rewards occasionally and accordingly. What have you got to complain about though, you've got your account. Now, go edit the mainspace! *brushes you away with a broom* :P — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 02:50, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

== I want a ==

I want a golden Slowpoke. Can I make a horrible page on purpose to get it? --I [[User:HideInTheDark|hide in the dark]]! 02:37, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

:No! Stop asking.--[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''ュウ!''']] 02:38, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

== Firefox: problem? ==

Why does Bulbapedia look curvy in Firefox? It appears fine in IE and Opera. Here's a [http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/oo102/Satoshi2000/bulbapedia_firefox.png screenshot] that may be helpful to better understand the problem. [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 13:59, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
:You have it backwards, the problem is that it's NOT curvy in IE and Opera. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|You enter a poorly lit room...]] 13:56, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
::That's right. The problem only seems to occur in Firefox. [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 13:59, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
:::OOPS! Sorry, I misread what you said. So it's supposed to look that way (i.e., curvy)? [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 14:03, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
::::Yes. IE and Opera lack the coding to form curved borders, so only Firefox can view it. '''[[User:Optimatum|Θρtιmαtum]][[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]] 14:01, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
:::::OK, now I understand the reason for that behavior. Thanks! ^_^ [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 14:03, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

::::::Different people have different stances on how the corners are best rendered. Just because one browser curves the corners and another doesn't doesn't mean it looks outright horrible in either browser. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 15:18, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

::::::Actually, there is a nifty HTML trick for rounded edges that works in IE. Here's the article: http://www.alistapart.com/articles/customcorners [[User:PhoenixGraphix|Phoenix]] 21:18, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
:::::::We'll need to talk to the people who make MediaWiki for that. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:52, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

== Disambiguation ==

When I typed in Prinplup, I got a disambig page. Should I make that page Prinplup (disambiguation), make [[Prinplup]] a redirect, and put "for other uses, see Prinplup (disambiguation)" on [[Prinplup (Pokémon)]]? [[User:Theininen|Thein]][[User talk:Theininen|inen]] 15:45, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
:No, this has been the system since the beginning, and it will not be changing. We've had polls, discussions, and arguements, and we have decided that the system we have now is the best and it won't ever be changing. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 15:48, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
::OK, thanks, I haven't been around for a while, so I wasn't sure what the policy was. [[User:Theininen|Thein]][[User talk:Theininen|inen]] 15:50, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
:::You should have still known, this has been the policy since the beginning. I even checked for proof for you to read why. [[Bulbapedia talk:Disambiguation poll]] and even the thread on the forums [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/showthread.php?t=30346 here]. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 15:56, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
::::No, I meant I forgot. Thanks though, I'll read those. [[User:Theininen|Thein]][[User talk:Theininen|inen]] 16:01, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

== Wow, no one's asked yet! ==

I'm surprised that no one's questioned ''at all'' why the Main Page is now pink and blue! '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:17, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

:Why is it? --'''[[User:Prongs|Prongs]] '''([[User Talk:Prongs|Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Prongs|Contributions]])''' 08:19, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

:: YOU'RE PREGNANT AND YOU HAD TWINS, A BOY AND A GIRL? --'''[[User:Darkeiya|Darkeiya]]''' ''[[User talk:Darkeiya|talk to me!]]'' 08:19, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
:::I questioned it to myself, but found the answer by looking at the [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Template:Main_Page&curid=63661&diff=740671&oldid=719799 history of the template]. Maybe everyone else is as self-discovering and clever. Or blind? --[[User:DarkfireTaimatsu|DarkfireTaimatsu]] 08:21, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
::::Maybe they know it already, or they go directly to the RC not the Main Page. Happy anniversary DP in US. =] the page's so bright!'''◄[[User:Kevzo8|Kev]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|zo8]]►''' 08:22, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
:::::Well, it'll have a more green theme next Friday, rather than today. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:41, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
::::::The green hurts my eyes. - '''[[User:Flex_S|Flex]][[Special:Contributions/Flex_S|__]][[User_talk:Flex_S|S]]''' 22:27, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
:::::::It's only for a day. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:51, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

== Extending the wiki for the Spanish language ==

Will it possible to create an extension of this wiki for the Spanish language at the international level?. The Spanish used to be that used in [[wp:Hispanic America|Hispanic America]], and the names of characters, places and others are the same as used in United States. --[[User:Toonamimaniacolatino|Toonamimaniacolatino]] 16:59, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

:There is already at least one Spanish Pokémon Wiki already running, [http://poketeca.com/wiki/Portada pokéteca], so for us to create such an extension at this point would just be more work; it's much easier to simply contribute to one of the Spanish Wikis that's already active. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 17:59, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
::The Pokéteca wiki is a wiki in Spanish, but this is not edited by users in Latin America, is edited by users of Spain, so the names of characters (such as May, in Spain is called Aura), and other cities are not the same as used in Latin America. While in Spain they changed the names to the characters, not in Latin America because the Pokémon video games that come to this region come from the United States and remain unchanged. We want a wiki where Spanish is not using the nomenclature given in Spain if not the ones used in Latin America (which are the same as those used in United States). --[[User:Toonamimaniacolatino|Toonamimaniacolatino]] 18:34, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

:::Last I checked, Wikipedia had only one Spanish variation. Trust me, there is no way to completely satisfy Spanish speakers in all parts of the world with just one wiki.

:::Regardless of how Spanish-language affiliation for [[Encyclopaediae Pokémonis]] turns out (unless there's two Spanish wikis, and even then there'd need to be two different inter-wiki prefixes), there's still going to be focus problems. To avoid complete alienation of a group of Spanish-speakers, be it those in Latin America or those on the Iberian Peninsula, there should at least be redirects from other variations of the language as well as slight mentions of them on the pages, be they Latin America-based redirects on a Spain-focused wiki or Spain-based redirects on a Latin America-based wiki. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 18:43, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

::::You know that Wikipedia in Spanish used only one classification, which is the United States? is being implemented policies titles convention and use common sense. The names used in the United States are better known than the names of any other country (including Spain) and why this is being implemented. To redirect and put other things besides just the people of Spain is foolish for them not only is Spain and Latin America. The main idea of a wiki is in Spanish that is targeted for the whole world (not just Latin America and Spain, although the latter always change the names) and nomenclature used is the same as used Bulbapedia, the United States. --[[User:Toonamimaniacolatino|Toonamimaniacolatino]] 19:03, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

:::::Pokéteca besides, there is another wiki in spanish called [http://es.pokemon.wikia.com/wiki/WikiDex Wikidex] , but like the first, is a wiki Wikidex edited by users of Spain, so their contents only revolves around them (apparently they do not know that there Latin America). Bulbapedia that would be good to do a version of yourself in Spanish or even better make another wiki in Spanish but with the same format as the bulbapedia (with the same names of characters, places, etc.) and not use anything that has to do with Spain and forming part of [[Encyclopaediae Pokémonis]]. --[[User:Toonamimaniacolatino|Toonamimaniacolatino]] 21:49, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

::::::Correction '''''there are''''' editors from around Central America (South to be exact) in PokeTeca. And WikiDex is Wikia we do not include Wikia part of EP. Anyways, stop complaining about it being Iberian Spanish if you have a problem '''''make redirects''''' over there or talk to one of their admins. And Wikipedia is not always the best resource for Pokémon infomation.--[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''ュウ!''']] 23:58, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Used vosotros y despues me habled. :D '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:48, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
::::::::Well, whatever, there is no use talking to them that for them there is only Spain and nothing more. If you intend to do a wiki Pokémon in Spanish, this should be neutral and use the international names, ie names used in USA. --[[User:Toonamimaniacolatino|Toonamimaniacolatino]] 17:40, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::I love the irony in that statement. As do the Germans and the French, I'm sure. If you think it's a problem, go and talk to their administrators. We can't do anything about what language they include. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 20:03, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::The same thing would have to been done to the Portuguese wiki, which is more focused on the Brazilian part than the Portuguese part. [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 19:12, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::::That isn't true, Toonamimaniacolatino, there're latinamerican administrators and pokétecarios in Pokéteca working in the wiki, so ... for us there isn't only Spain and nothing more but I think that if the wiki is in spanish we have to use the spanish names (like other wikis in other languages use their languages) because in Latinamerica the game arrives unfortunately from USA whitout translations. However, I understand the problem for LA with the names and we'll see what can we do. --[[User:Habieru|Habieru]] 15:52, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::::Habieru, that's not the point they have not also want to make changes that Pokéteca a wiki is managed by the Pkstation fansite, which is administered by Spanish Do you know what I mean? Better or try to make the effort to talk to the Spaniards is to waste time, plus they do not like the idea of using the names used in the U.S. Is there any objection by the fact that games come fully into English for the Latin American region? I do not see any further dubbing anime in Spanish which is done for the region Latin America Mexico, is based on the games that come in English and that there is any problem in creating a wiki in Spanish that is subject to Bulbapedia. --[[User:Toonamimaniacolatino|Toonamimaniacolatino]] 00:35, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
:(reset indent) Just an FYI, Habieru ''is'' the administration on Pokéteca, more or less. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 07:46, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
::
Well, I do not think this is the solution to the problem. --[[User:Toonamimaniacolatino|Toonamimaniacolatino]] 14:59, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
: I'd love to help with this but... I don't know, I don't think a lot of you mmmm americans (I mean from USA) would like to give us that mmmm I don't know If I know how to explain myself on this...: but this wiki is supposed to be, well... in English, and even though I loooooooooove being mexican{{tt|,|and speak Spanish}} I'm very proud of it, I don't really think it's a good idea to make '''all''' the articles in spanish, too, because the're a lot and besides we don't really need them (well those who doesn't know English would love this page had spanish things too but that's what those other pages well... exist for, right?) even if they aren't as good as Bulbapedia, I'm not trying to offend them, but really, I used to check wikidex long ago but then I found this and sticked to it becuase I thought (and I still think I'm right) this is more complete and better writen and all. But I think I'm missing the point :D. No, If we really needed one Bulbapedia in Spanish hmmmmm well, I think it's a difficult toppic, a lot of people should keep discussing this until we get a conclusion. If the answer is "Yes, lets do a Bulbapedia in Spanish!" then count on me!! But if the answer is not... I wouldn't be sad anyway, cause I don't think it's reaaaaally needed. That's what I think, please lets talk about this more, don't leave it like that![[User:YukitoOoO|YukitoOoO]] 22:26, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

:I may be wrong but, PokéTeca has been slated... so there's on Pokémon Wiki in Spanish. --[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''ュウ!''']] 23:05, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

::I do not think it correct to say that Pokèteca is officially a wiki in Spanish when their information is poor, little, makes a bad use of classifications that are not officers, who are only known within a European country and that their way of disseminated the information is not so neutral, I mean they do not implement or do not know what the [[wp:Wikipedia:Neutral point of view|Neutral point of view]] is that every wiki should have. But in recent days I have been talking to a webmaster of a fansite Pokémon in Latin America and told me he has been working with its friends in the development of a wiki in Spanish in which they can use the nomenclature of USA. This news made me fell so good I decided to be part of this. We are polishing and doing everything necessary to make this wiki its debut next month is in July. We have great hopes with this wiki and can move faster than any other Spanish wiki Pokemon has been seen and if possible, be a part of PE. This wiki is based on Bulbapedia (information from the articles, of course) and use that spirit of seriousness of Wikipedia so we can succeed in this project is to come. --[[User:Toonamimaniacolatino|Toonamimaniacolatino]] 22:49, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
:::I think that if Pokéteca is a spanish wiki we have to use the official spanish nomenclature, in other words, the names used in Spain. We can search a solution but... what solution? If somebody plays the game in english, I think that he can read Bulbapedia. But if somebody plays the game in spanish, he can't read a spanish wiki with english nomenclature, he needs a wiki with spanish nomenclature. Respect to the information of Pokéteca is 'poor and little'... it's logical, Pokéteca has only 8 months online but there're people working hard in Pokéteca... Rome was not built in one day. The only solution that I see is create a Latin America wiki, but as I said, I don't see this logical.--[[User:Habieru|Habieru]] 02:22, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
::::Are the games released in Latin America really that much different from the Spanish counterparts? Or are they just the English games NOA sends to all of North America, saying "screw off, Quebec and Mexico", while Spain gets games in Spanish? Creating a Latin American wiki just for that would be stupid, really, as would it be if we created a Commonwealth English wiki and an American English wiki. Special Defense isn't altered in the UK or Australia to Special Defence, so yeah. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:38, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
:::::No, the games realeased in Latin America, at least in Mexico, are the same from the USA, the thing here is that is someone in mexico needs a little help with his game and knows only a little English -enough- to play a game, but not to finish it, is going to have some a lot of trouble and he's going to need help, but if he goes to Poketeca or Wikidex that info may not be good enough, or different as they change the name of the moves and cities (obviously names of people and others) that may confuse him. What would be good in that case is to have and Spanish-written Encyclopedia, good for visitors form Latin America, that gets things from USA, that is {{tt|"Bulbapedia en español, la enciclopedia de Pokémon mas completa"|"Bulbapedia in Spanish, the most complete Pokémon encyclopedia"}}. THAT is what we're trying to get. See my point? because if he needs help and goes to say, Wikidex and he finds out he needs to go to "{{tt|Ciudad Calagua|Lylicove City}}" he won't know were the heck is taht :D. I '''reaaaaaaaaaaally''' think it's a good idea make another better encyclopedia for Pokémon fans from Latin America. [[User:YukitoOoO|YukitoOoO]] 04:20, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
::::::Yea, the games are in English are all over North America. But there's also redirects you can create. Also, as TTE said do we have a Commonwealth English wiki and an American English wiki? Yeah, English cities and characters are the same in all English versions. The point is a Bulbapedia in Spanish? That's what PokéTeca is. So the idea of a Latin American Spanish Wiki seems really dumb [retarded] as there already is one. Just create redirects to the Spanish names of the cities/characfters or go ask for the pages to also relate to the Latin American names to prevent any other confusion. --[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''ュウ!''']] 04:36, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
:::::::These CoolPikachu wrong. As you are Spanish and you're one of those users who manages Pokéteca, you put in a position of opposition. As I said at Pokéteca not believe in a wiki such as Spanish for the reasons mentioned above in addition to being administered by the Spanish, are closed with that stupid idea that these are the official names, they should be so when it is not correct. Are formal names, but only known within a European country, no other country but also all known names such translations are made by Nintendo Europe misconceptions that many of them are meaningless names that are not consistent with history as it should be. If you want a wiki in Spanish Pokémon, it must be neutral and use a nomenclature which is universally known that in this case are the names of USA. Why is it necessary to use the names of USA? 2 very important reasons. 1. They are the official names are designated by Nintendo and Pokémon USA are disseminated to the rest of the world, especially when it comes to the anime series. However, in Europe in general, as they are accustomed to doing them in wins, is dedicated to changing the names of characters and others is not something that seems right. 2. Latin America a region formed by a broad group of countries that speak Spanish but it handles things better, while Spain is a country which not only share similar customs with any other country. What is preferable? Use familiar names at the universal level, or using names known only within a single country while for a large region such as Latin America are not? Please realize just this question. What is more known, "Dragon Ball" or "Bola de Dragon"? As mentioned, I am part of a wiki, well I'm wrong with the date that this would debut in July but just debuted last week. This wiki is called [http://wiki.pkstadium.com "PkStadium Wiki"] which is managed by [http://www.pkstadium.com/ PkStadium], a Latin American fansite. As mentioned, the wiki using the nomenclature of USA, is subject to several policies that are used on wikis like Wikipedia, and in turn be given the freedom to use the contents of Bulbapedia for further information on the wiki and see if there the opportunity to be part of PE. --[[User:Toonamimaniacolatino|Toonamimaniacolatino]] 02:26, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::::Um. CP's Californian. He lives in the US and is in fact Latino. Like has been said before, what's so hard about using a wiki's internal redirect system? We don't plan on starting a commonwealth English version of BP, just so we can change the names of stuff like Special Defense to [[Special Defence]], or so the [[list of Pokémon by colour]] can have a u. That's just bollocks.
::::::::I know, PUSA severely screwed up when it came to the Spanish translation of the games, but Spanish is Spanish. You may not use vosotros at all in Latin America, but likewise, we don't have internet ''connexions'' in the US. Doesn't mean much of anything.
::::::::Also, as for the names being known more... um. That'd be like commanding Game Freak to start putting the games in English by default, since only Japan speaks Japanese. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 09:37, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

== Pokémon that can learn TMs ==

I've seen on a few move pages, like [[Frustration]], that "'''All''' Pokémon that can learn TMs can learn this move", so wouldn't it be a good idea to have a list or category of all pokémon that can learn TMs, and conversely a list or category of pokémon that can't learn TMs (like Magikarp). [[User:Jmvb|Jmvb]] 08:15, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
:Eh, I dunno. Most people will get it when they try to use Frustration on something useless like the karp. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:50, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
::I believe a "Pokémon that cannot learn any TMs" category could be really nice, for the sake of trivia. It's not hard to put together. [[User:Mr. Charlie|Mr. ]][[User talk:Mr. Charlie|Charlie]] 02:21, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
:::I believe they are Caterpie, Metapod, Weedle, Kakuna, Magikarp, Ditto, Unown, Wobbuffet, Wurmple, Silcoon, Cascoon, Wynaut, Burmy, Combee and Kricketot. Correct me if I'm wrong. [[User:Mr. Charlie|Mr. ]][[User talk:Mr. Charlie|Charlie]] 02:32, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
:::: There's also Beldum [[User:Jmvb|Jmvb]] 14:40, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
::::: There's also Smeargle and Feebas. [[User:EpicFail|EpicFail]] 19:56, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

==The White Rocks==

I think we should have an article that explains the white rocks shown in different riegons. It could include the confusion over Kanto's white rock, and it could explain that Hoenn has a white rock, but it doesn't seem to be important, etc. [[User:Igglybuff63|Igglybuff63]] 00:36, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
:There are two white rocks... one in Hoenn and one in Sinnoh... so what? That's not only on the GSDS page, but the one in Sinnoh is already explained in multiple articles pertaining to it's event. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 00:41, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
::The one in Hoenn isn't polished and shiny and crap. HGSS will show us what Oak meant... and likely give us the item Rowan's Letter. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:09, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

== Missing articles about the beta stage of games ==

Should articles about the beta of Pokémon Blue, Pokémon Yellow and Pokémon Crystal be made? Besides the beta article about HG/SS, since we only know that the games will be launched and with the first details to come in a few hours, these should be created. I made the question on the main article of the betas discussion page but haven't got an answer yet. I can help with research but first I'll need to know which tools to use. =P [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 17:53, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
:You didn't read it very well did you? R/G is practically the beta of Blue & Yellow, and G/S is basically the R/G for Crystal. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 18:19, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
::So? Emerald got its beta article, hasn't it? Thus, it makes sense to have, at least, an article about the beta of Crystal. [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 18:22, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
:::I realized that after I said that, but unless you know how to get the beta info for Crystal and Yellow, then the pages aren't gonna happen any time soon. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 18:26, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
::::That's the problem. I don't know how to get that information. But I'm interested in knowing, so if somebody can help me, I'll be very grateful. ;) [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 18:29, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
:::::I don't have a Gameshark or even the skills to hack everything out of Yellow. But I still don't think that we need one for them. Yellow was a special game, not really a third version, and Crystal is really not changed much from G/S, except for the storyline tweaks. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 18:32, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
::::::You still got VBA for some reason. Even so, I'm curious to know that. I think people didn't look for it because they considered the games too similar but it's no less interesting to find something about the changes. And I know that Yellow was a special version instead of a third version (although this only counts for Japan; it's considered a third version elsewhere). Still, it'd be thoughtful to at least try to find beta tracks of the mechanics that Game Freak used to make Pikachu the only Pokémon availabe outside of its Poké Ball as well as the basic happiness system. [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 18:45, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
:::::::VBA? And for the beta, somebody else here'll have to do it. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 18:50, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
::::::::Yes, the GBA emulator. And although it seems to be frustrating, I agree with you when it comes to who should make the research. :S [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 18:54, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

== Artwork ==

Should templates for the different artworks be created? I mean, throughout the years and generations, new artwork is made, so it should be good to have them all grouped, since it's more information that is present (and it's relevant, IMO). [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 18:07, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
:Yes, that's a great idea! If each Pokémon has a sprite template then I don't see why they can't have ones for artwork as well. The only problem is I don't really have enough knowledge of wikicode to make something like that just yet. Can someone help make one? [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 15:57, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
::if this wiki use semantic and semantic gallery, you can simple make a gallery of the artwork of one pokemon or something like that .. --[[User:Hanmac|Hanmac]]
:::We have links on each Pokémon infobox "Artwork on Bulbagarden Archives" That is where we show them. It makes it easier for us, because we aren't cramming hundreds of artworks onto the already filled pages. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 17:14, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

== Project Overgrow - Final stage ==

So HG/SS is slowing down the admin team, huh? Just kidding. =P But when we'll know the final step to complete Project Overgrow? [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 20:23, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
:When they feel like it, of course. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|You enter a poorly lit room...]] 20:25, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
::I imagine it'll be reopening the NFAs. --'''[[User:Alpha Totodile|Alpha]] [[Special:Contributions/Alpha Totodile|Totodile]][[User Talk:Alpha Totodile|RWAR!!]]''' 20:33, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
:::OK then. But since it's been a while since the article about it refers that phase V is going to be announced soon, I thought they should've announced it by now. [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 20:36, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
::::Mainly it's server issues that've been messing things up. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 09:01, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

== User Page Disaster!!! ==

What's happened to my user page? It's completely gone! It took ages to put it together and now I've got to start it all over again :( Is it because I went on holiday and didn't edit it for a while? [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 10:43, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
:it's.... fine.... the stuff is still there....--[[User:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Ho-Oh (Pokémon)|orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Lugia (Pokémon)|ire]] 10:45, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
::Yep, true. It's completely fine. Try refreshing the page. Maybe it refused to load. '''[[User:Kevzo8|Kev]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|zo8]]''' 10:46, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
:::Wikis been going crazy for a while. Hit refresh and it will be fine.--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 10:50, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
::::Ah yes, it's back again now! Sorry to bother you! [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 10:43, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

== ?? ==

Is anybody else having a problem with saving pages? I've had to save new users' talk pages to get the welcome on two or three times each, and I can't use preview, or else it goes to the "Editing Page" thing, for when you edit the whole page instead of a section. Just like what it did now, except I used save page... '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 22:02, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
:Yep. And pages with é in the title won't let you edit sometimes either. Obviously someone's playing with the server right now. Nothing major to worry about; it should hopefully be back soon. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 22:04, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
::Alright. My computer has been acting crappy lately, but I didn't think it would do this, so just asking. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 22:07, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
:::Whenever I load a page in Chrome, it alerts me that the page has an infinite redirect. [[User:PhoenixGraphix|Phoenix]][[User_Talk:PhoenixGraphix|Graphix]][[Special:Contributions/PhoenixGraphix|™]] 22:08, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

::::I've been having these problems too. I'm starting to think the system hates us. First the system rejects any notion of allowing any number of question marks in page titles (although it can be tricked into [[Is It Summer?|producing]] [[What Kind of Pokémon Are You?|results]] on certain pages that end with question marks), and now making it so we might have to try multiple times to complete any given action? (I myself had to try twice just to get this comment in!) It's as if the server's trying to revolt against {{u|Archaic}}! --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 03:44, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
:::::At times it's rejecting non-alphanumeric characters, too. Like if I try to search something like "User:Sol", it turns to User%235Sol or something of the sort. And at other times, editing pages with é in them will result in a "bad title" thing. It's really annoying. '''~ [[User:Sol|sol]][[User talk:Sol|ar]][[Special:Contributions/Sol|is]]''' 03:48, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
::::::I noticed that when I had to get to somebody's page yesterday... and yeah. All of the stuff you guys said is exactly what I was asking about. Crap... I just remembered I have to type the tildes now too... '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 12:51, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

== If anyone's wondering about the GS color scheme ==

I'm not planning on changing it back anytime soon. In fact, I'll likely leave it until July, at which time it'll be replaced by the Crystal one to celebrate its anniversary. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 07:42, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

== IE8 ==

I think that after all this server issues are solved and after Project Overgrow is complete, you guys should make Bulbagarden completely IE8-compatible because with the exception of the forums, all the other websites show me the Compatibility View option, meaning that they weren't updated in order to become fully compatible with IE's 8th version yet. [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 15:19, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

: Do you have any problems? Please, specify them. — [[User:Tenno Seremel|Tenno Seremel]] 15:47, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
::Considering IE8 was just released recently, I'd expect not everyone or everything has taken advantage of it yet. Also, keep in mind, we're running off of MediaWiki 1.14 software, and that any IE8 issues likely will be taken care of in 1.15. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:44, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
:::Moreover, considering IE8 is more advanced in terms of CSS than it's previous incarnations I'd say there shouldn't be many problems at all. — [[User:Tenno Seremel|Tenno Seremel]] 22:54, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

== How come all the pages are protected? ==

Doesn't it make more sense to require users to log in to edit?
EDIT: Whoops, double post. Sorry. {{unsigned|Magikarp123193}}
:It's already required for users to log in to edit, but there will still be some users who will do something stupid even when logged in, so pages are protected so not even logged-in users will mess it up. '''~ [[User:Sol|sol]][[User talk:Sol|ar]][[Special:Contributions/Sol|is]]''' 18:28, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
::It's also because of the server problems, users are sometimes logged off randomly, they hope to have it fixed shortly. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psychic''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]''''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 18:30, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
:::Oh, I didn't know he meant ''all'' the pages. '''~ [[User:Sol|sol]][[User talk:Sol|ar]][[Special:Contributions/Sol|is]]''' 18:32, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
::::lol Sol, it's in the title..."How come '''all''' the pages are protected?". I'm pretty sure that's what he meant... --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psychic''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]''''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 18:35, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
:::::I know that, but all can be used as a hyperbole, so that's why I italicized ''all'', to put more emphasis on it so it actually meant ''all''. *going smartical on you* '''~ [[User:Sol|sol]][[User talk:Sol|ar]][[Special:Contributions/Sol|is]]''' 18:38, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
::::::Ah, I see. <s>But being a user of {{p|Roserade}}, I am right in this matter...</s> I think it is referring to the server issues as it says all though as not all pages are protected and this user is a registered user. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psychic''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]''''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 18:41, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
:::::::He means when you get logged off while trying to edit the page, yes. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 19:18, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

== 503 ==

So I know that everyone was hoping that the 503s were fixed, but when I first got on a little bit ago, one of the first pages I went to I got 503'd on. Just throwing that out there if it hasn't been noted already. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 20:04, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
:Which one's the 503 error? The one that loses your changes when you try to edit?--'''[[Johto|☆]][[User:Alpha Totodile|A]][[User talk:Alpha Totodile|T]][[Special:Contributions/Alpha Totodile|♂]]''' 20:05, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

::No. The one where it says that a server is unavailable to recieve your data or something like that. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 20:08, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
:::whoops, I meant "the one that says the server lost your session data after an edit". Is that the one? --'''[[Johto|☆]][[User:Alpha Totodile|A]][[User talk:Alpha Totodile|T]][[Special:Contributions/Alpha Totodile|♂]]''' 20:11, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

== Vandalism? ==
I have noticed random acounts being made and vandalising the site. Anyone might have an idea when this will stop? -- [[User:Vhayes1992|Vhayes1992]] 18:33, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
:We're working on it. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 18:34, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

::Look at the Message From the Editor. Also look at [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/showpost.php?p=854473&postcount=9 this]. --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 18:35, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
It's obvious that the guy will not get anywhere with the vandilism, but is there any guesses on when the person will give up?-- [[User:Vhayes1992|Vhayes1992]] 18:46, 25 May 2009

::The fact that there's been about 300 blocked accounts in May alone is kind of... Almost unsettling in a way. Why would someone go to all that trouble to annoy and vandalize us? Seriously! But it does seem to be picking up at some times so it probably won't stop soon, but I hope it does. --[[User:Hey1031|Hey1031]] 23:35, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

== A question about a "rule"? ==

Alright, I was wondering why do we have the "No Multiple Accounts" rule? I mean, I can understand if a User uses another account to get around a ban or something but... Seriously? Why do we ban someone for having two accounts? Hardly any other websites do it, and I mean heck, [http://www.facepunch.com Facepunch] don't ban you for having alt/multiple accounts unless you're using them to spam or something, and Facepunch has always been a really strict forum. So yeah, why do we have this rule? Is there any '''good''' reason? [[User:Takoto|~~Takoto]] - [[User_talk:Takoto|サソデイ]] 23:39, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
:If someone wants to contribute, then one account surely is enough. If multiple accounts are made and left, then in an instance when the first account is blocked, the second account can be used to get around that block. They can be used in instances of voting; users can try and show a majority opinion for a majority point of view. [[Special:Contributions/Crest|This has been done before]]. Now, when they do have multiple accounts, we don't block them both - just one. They can still edit. Just because other sites do it doesn't mean we should too. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 23:55, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
:: Ditto. If someone just wants to edit then 1 account is good enough. If some one has multiple accounts, they have some reason for it. And it could be a bad one. (Vandalism) --Usyflad10 23:17, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

==About Pictures==
I'm a poster for pictures, I love to post for Shippings, Items, all of that. But, for some reason, I can't see my pictures after I put them in an article. I checked everything to make sure it works and it does, so what's the problem? P.S. Sometimes when I log off, I'm able to see the pictures.[[User:Tandra88|Tandra88]] 01:17, 27 May 2009 (UTC)tandra88
:We're having problems with the server the site is hosted on atm. As a result, some images aren't showing up. There are techs working on this problem; there shouldn't be anything major to worry about. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 01:44, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
:Ok thank you so much. I acually thought it was my computer but now I know. Thanks! :) [[User:Tandra88|Tandra88]] 14:42, 27 May 2009 (UTC)tandra88

==Log In==
I have a problem. Sometimes when I edit an article, I try to save it, but I can't because I get logged out. Also, when I click the log in button to sign back in, I look at the top and it's logged in. Is something wrong?[[User:Tandra88|Tandra88]] 19:28, 27 May 2009 (UTC)tandra88
:New comments to the bottom of the page. And technically 98% of these questions should be directed at the Bulbawiki forum.... but the logout problem is yet another server flaw. We're hoping it won't hang around for too much longer. (Incidentally, I've never been logged out...) — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 19:39, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
::I've been seeing that too. I just keep telling it to save until it does. Sometimes it takes ten tries, sometimes it goes on the first try. --[[User:Galladeon|Galladeon]] 19:41, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
::: A few days ago, I kept getting logged out every 5 minutes, but when I click again, I was logged in again. This hasn't really been a problem since then but it was really frustrating trying to edit articles. --[[User:Hey1031|Hey1031]] 22:07, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
::::This is really annoying when I'm trying to upload sprites. Even making this comment took a while because of this problem.--[[User:Pokelova|''I'm Pokelova'']][[User talk:Pokelova|<big>''(Talk)''</big>]] 04:43, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
:::::Yeah that happened to me. I just enabled cookies for Bulbapedia and my account never got logged out. If you don't know how to enable cookies, look for the help section on your internet browser. --Usyflad 10 23:08, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

== Sockpuppets ==
There have been alot of new users with similiar names in the last few minutes and they seem like sockpuppets. Darkmaster0 17:13, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
:Oh, no. Grawp's at it again. [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] wants YOU! [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch/Bulbapedia Branch|Join the Order of the Glitch!]] [[User talk: Missingno. Master|(my talk page)]] 17:16, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
::Is it possible to just disallow the creation of new accounts for a while? It's rather annoying when I want to make an edit and can't because the admins locked the database because some idiot keeps making sockpuppets. --[[User:Galladeon|Galladeon]] 19:45, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
:::Trust me, that's on the cards. We just have to get in touch with the right person. Locking account creation is, apparently, harder than you think. Also, locking the database is, and always has been, the last resort. Our last goal here is to disadvantage the editors. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 19:50, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
::::That isn't the database, that's the server transition. One of them is locked because that one is only being used for archival purposes and we aren't paying for editing functions there. Until all the info is transferred, there will be locked database glitches and session losses, so please hang tight until things are finished.--[[User:RexRacer|'''Rex]][[User talk:RexRacer|Racer''']] 19:54, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
::::::Dammit... Why can't {{tt|he|grawp}} just leave us alone? --[[User:Galladeon|Galladeon]] 05:08, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Because he's probably a pimpled face nerd who lives in his mother's basement and has nothing to do and gets off on creating sockpuppets on Bulbapedia. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 05:12, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
Don't compliment him like that. --[[User:Galladeon|Galladeon]] 05:16, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
:Shshsh. He can see all because he has no life and wishes to get ****ed.--[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''ュウ!''']] 05:17, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
::Someday (hopefully soon), he'll run out of IPs to use, then there will be a massive party on Bulbapedia. --[[User:Galladeon|Galladeon]] 05:20, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
:::He'll stop when he's 50.--[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''ュウ!''']] 05:21, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
::::Ugh, this is annoying. Another lockdown? '''~ [[User:Sol|sol]][[User talk:Sol|ar]][[Special:Contributions/Sol|is]]''' 05:22, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
:::::He'll never live to be fifty if decent Bulbapedians can track him down... --[[User:Galladeon|Galladeon]] 05:24, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
::::::Okay guys, I'm gonna request that this topic be closed now. Thanks, --[[User:RexRacer|'''Rex]][[User talk:RexRacer|Racer''']] 05:25, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
== Help! ==

Can someone tell me on how to make a user page? I've been trying to find a help page but I can't find any![[User:Kingofun|Kingofun]] 05:25, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
:Calm down. People aren't watcing every page at every instant. This is the internet, and nothing is so urgent that you need to post 3 times in 4 minutes. As a general rule, as the number of people on will depend on your time zone, only start to worry about not getting a response after about 24 hours.

:Anyway, to make a user page click on your sig. It will take you to a page saying that this page does not yet exist, but you can create it. Put the wikicode in the box, just like for this page, and remember to preview it before you save to check that it is working how you want it. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] 05:44, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

== What the fridge?! ==

Lately I've been getting 503 errors, some stuff about no server being available. It's not particularly irksome as it doesn't happen too often, but still, I thought this was supposed to be taken care of with that maintenence the site underwent a few weeks ago? And just now, there's that loss of session data! Just now! Wasn't that supposed to stop after the maintenance? [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] wants YOU! [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch/Bulbapedia Branch|Join the Order of the Glitch!]] [[User talk: Missingno. Master|(my talk page)]] 01:21, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
:Oh, and when is the final thing for Project Overgrow being revealed? I would've thought sometime last month... [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] wants YOU! [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch/Bulbapedia Branch|Join the Order of the Glitch!]] [[User talk: Missingno. Master|(my talk page)]] 01:23, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
::It's taking a little longer to hammer out than we expected. Should be soon. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:24, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Oh, OK, thanks. And the final phase of Project Overgrow? [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] wants YOU! [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch/Bulbapedia Branch|Join the Order of the Glitch!]] [[User talk: Missingno. Master|(my talk page)]] 01:25, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

== Sign Up! ==

This may sound stupid, but my nephew want's to join Bulbapedia but I forgot how! Can someone tell me how to sign up for a account on Bulbapedia???[[User:Kingofun|Kingofun]] 05:40, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
:He can't. Account creation is disabled temporarily. We'll let you know when it comes back online. Until then, he's just going to have to browse. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 06:45, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
::I was wondering why there were no attacks. I didn't even notice that there weren't any new users coming in. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 06:51, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Yep. Grawp's gone global now. Pokéwiki, Wikinezka and even pokemon.wiki have had an introduction to our giant buddy. And of course, 'nezka have no admins online. Ever. Isn't that just grand? — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 07:01, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
Oh, ok thanks for telling me! My nephew's going to be really be bummed out. [[User:Kingofun|Kingofun]] 05:38, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
:Wow. When did this "cut-off" start? I just made an account a couple weeks ago. -Usyflad10

== Help! ==

I keep getting a message saying my edit could not be saved due to loss of session data or something like that. Does anyone know what I can do to fix this? [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 09:48, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
:Three options. Either press F5 and refresh the page, click back and save it again, or start over. Don't worry, you aren't the only person this is happening to. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 10:16, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
::The F5 method worked a treat. Thanks! [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 15:57, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

== -webkit ==

Do you guys know about this? I see you have -moz-border-radius implemented, but there is also -webkit-border-radius, -moz-border-shadow, and -webkit-border-shadow.--'''[[User:Prmatt11|''Mew'']]* [[User talk:Prmatt11|a.k.a.]] [[Special:Contributions/Prmatt11|Prmatt11]]''' was here at 13:28, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

:Yeah. BTW, if we are using -prefixed version of a CSS property it should be used as (I'm using border-radius here as an example): -prefixed1-border-radius, -prefixed2-border-radius, border-radius. i.e. we should include non-prefixed version of the property itself *after* prefixed ones. — [[User:Tenno Seremel|Tenno Seremel]] 14:46, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
::How come?--'''[[User:Prmatt11|''Mew'']]* [[User talk:Prmatt11|a.k.a.]] [[Special:Contributions/Prmatt11|Prmatt11]]''' was here at 20:31, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

:::It's future-proofing. Some time in the future border-radius will became a standard and "border-radius" will work, while prefixed versions will be turned off. — [[User:Tenno Seremel|Tenno Seremel]] 08:37, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

== Pronunciation for pokemon ==

I don't know if this was already suggested but i think adding a pronunciation button or one of those pronunciation keys like: [pruh-nuhn-see-ey-shuhn] could improve Bulbapedia a lot. Just a suggestion. --Usyflad10 20:38, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

:Not really. The anime, Battle Revolution, and other things have differences in how they pronounce the names. There's really no solid pronunciation for some Pokémon. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 03:26, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
::Just look through The Pokemon Sinnoh handbook or any pokemon handbook for official English pronunciations. --[[User:Vhayes1992|Vhayes1992]] 21:36, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
:::The books are known for their errors. For example, how the <s>f*ck</s> heck is Delibird a legendary? --[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/|'''エ'''][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 21:38, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
::::You got me there! --[[User:Vhayes1992|Vhayes1992]] 22:02, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
:::::Pronunciation also changes depending on where you're from.--[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/|'''エ'''][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 23:33, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
Yeah I know that there are books but they make lots of errors. Even if there are multiple pronunciations we could include all of them. --Usyflad10 20:38, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

:No. Because we'd have to find them all. Find how everybody says them. Find the location of where it's said like that (game, book, country/region/state). And THEN add them all to the pages. That would take hours of useless work. Heck, not even Wikipedia, the "We have it all!" encyclopedia has pronunciations for {{tt|most articles|none of the crappy Pokémon ones have it either}}. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 13:53, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

oh okay. --Usyflad10 20:38, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

== Help me please. ==

I'm not sure how to link my user page to my signature. Can somebody tell me how?--Usyflad10 23:30, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
:Do you sign with four tildes? [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|You enter a poorly lit room...]] 23:32, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
Well i press the signature button --Usyflad10 23:34, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
::[[Special:Preferences|here]]. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 23:42, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
Yeah i know you change your signature there but i dont know how to make it my user page. --Usyflad10 23:59, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

[[User:Usyflad10|Usyflad10]] ([[User talk:Usyflad10|talk]])

Copy the coding from the edit window. That should do it. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 00:03, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks i hope it works --Usyflad10 05:53, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

==News==
It may just be me, or it might be intentional but it seems like all of the news articles except the top one aren't there. [[User:STHedgehog|STHedgehog]] 15:15, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
:And now they're all gone. I think someone is deleting the news articles. [[User:STHedgehog|STHedgehog]] 15:16, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
::No, the News Updater on Bulbanews encoutered an error. It should be fixed within the next 15 minutes. Just hang tight until then. --[[User:Landfish7| Land]][[User talk:Landfish7|fish]][[User talk:Landfish7|7]] 17:16, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Will ya look on the forums? It is not on purpose, it will not be fixed in 15 minutes, sadly. However, I will change that notice.--'''[[User:Prmatt11|''Mew'']]* [[User talk:Prmatt11|a.k.a.]] [[Special:Contributions/Prmatt11|Prmatt11]]''' was here at 17:35, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
::::Thank you, the news is back now. [[User:STHedgehog|STHedgehog]] 22:58, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

== Countdown?? ==

I don't know if i missed the news or something but why is there a countdown to september 12 2009. Is it when a game comes out? --[[User:Usyflad10|[[User:Usyflad10|Usyflad10]]]] 02:09, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
:HGSS kid. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psychic''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]''''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 02:11, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
yeah i just looked at the article in BulbaNews. Sorry :( {{unsigned|Usyflad10}}

Do you think the countdown should be a bit smaller? It is rather dominating. [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 16:47, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
:It's the way it's set up. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:01, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

== 503 and 504 errors -_- ==

This is getting annoying. First we have the "lost session data" error. And then we have these things. 503 says that no server was available. 504 says something about not being on time or whatever. It is really messed up. It ended up making me do three edits instead of two on [[Counter]]. Is this just me . . . >:( --[[User:Landfish7| Land]][[User talk:Landfish7|fish]][[User talk:Landfish7|7]] 17:46, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
:Nevermind, it's fixed. --[[User:Landfish7| Land]][[User talk:Landfish7|fish]][[User talk:Landfish7|7]] 17:55, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
::In the future, please direct your techical problems to [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/showthread.php?t=39109 this thread]. Thank you.--[[User:RexRacer|'''Rex]][[User talk:RexRacer|Racer''']] 18:07, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
::: Is it fixed? I had that 503 error thing come up today. --[[image:MD004F.png]] [[User:Usyflad10|Usyflad10]] ([[User talk:Usyflad10|talk]]) [[image:MD004F.png]] 06:04, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
::::Clearly, if the error came up, it is not fixed. We do not know when this will be fixed, but be assured it is being worked on. I'll bump Rex's comment about how we shouldn't be commenting about this here. Thank you. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 07:39, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

== More error driven goodness ==

I keep getting logged out and logged back in and I can't make many edits at all. --[[User:Landfish7| Land]][[User talk:Landfish7|fish]][[User talk:Landfish7|7]] 14:38, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
:Are you talking about the lost session data error that I keep getting? If you are, just continue trying to save the edit until it does. --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 14:44, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
::No I'm not talking about {{tt|that|that crap that is very annoying}}. I'm talking about how it keeps logging me out. I even pressed the "remember me" check-off box and it still logs me off as soon as I press {{tt|show preview|or save page}}. It makes it so I can't edit at all. This isn't just me it is happening to some others too. I was lucky for it to work this time. --[[User:Landfish7| Land]][[User talk:Landfish7|fish]][[User talk:Landfish7|7]] 14:59, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
:::Has anyone said that this is fixed? No. Direct tchical questions to the thread I linked above please. Further disregard of the system will result in consequences.--[[User:RexRacer|'''Rex]][[User talk:RexRacer|Racer''']] 15:01, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
::::The same thing is happening to me, but I had to log in so many times times, because every time I would, it would log me right back out. -_- Its almost a miracle I could get on now. --[[User:Hey1031|Hey1031]] 19:48, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

That happened to me but i fixed it. You have to enable cookies for Bulbapedia to stay logged in. if you hav a windows go to internet options then security then to trusted sites. Add Bulbapedia. --[[User:Usyflad10|Usyflad]] [[User talk:Usyflad10|10]] 23:09, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

== Sorry for my Stupidity ==

I dont quite understand the release date of september 12. Is that when HGSS comes out for Japan? Or America? If Japan, when does it come out in America? Sorry. --[[User:Usyflad10|Usyflad]] [[User talk:Usyflad10|10]] 21:39, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
:JST would likely imply Japan. Why would it come out in the US that soon? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 21:43, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

== I noticed an error on some Supreme Victors/Beat of the Frontier card pages. ==

The thing above the page says the cards won't be released in English. Could you make a new thing like that that says that it was released in Japan and ''will'' be released in English? Pretty please with a Pecha Berry on top? - ''unsigned comment from {{u|Magikarp123193}} ([[User talk:Magikarp123193|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Magikarp123193|contribs]]) ''
:The [[Template:TCG Unreleased|notice in question]] says "'''''may''''' not be released outside of Japan". You're implying it reads "'''''will''''' not be released outside of Japan". We don't switch to [[Template:TCG Pre-prerelease|a notice for impending English release]] until the card is 100% confirmed to come out in English--which is when an English scan of the card comes around. No English scan means no guarantee the card'll come out in English. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 14:33, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

== Wanted articles list ==

I was looking through the wanted articles list and noticed a couple talk pages, and I probably would've seen more if I'd kept looking. Should they be on there? If not, is there a way to make it not display those? --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 14:22, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

:Are those talk pages for Pokémon in the anime? [[Template:Questionable Notability]] links to the talk page of any page that includes the notice tag, done so as a means to encourage discussion to try to make a case either for or against notability. [[Template:Delete]] also links to talk pages as well. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 14:29, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

::I'm talking about [[Special:WantedPages|this list.]] --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 14:33, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

:::So was I. The notice tags in question will add the talk pages to the wanted pages if the talk pages don't exist. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 14:38, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
::::Ah. Okay. --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 14:38, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

BTW, could an admin look at the {{TP|Zoey|Zoey's Misdreavus|Misdreavus}} page and talk page and probably delete them/turn the page into a redirect? --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 20:48, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

== template page?? ==

Is there a page that lists all the templates or at least tells you how to make one? --[[User:Usyflad10|Usyflad]][[User talk:Usyflad10|10]] 00:09, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
:{{cat|Templates}}. Other than that, often you can start with a similar template that already exists and modify it. What did you have in mind?--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 00:51, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

== [[Bulbapedia:Usertag policy]] ==

Could a Userspace Usertag category be created and applied to relevant tags so that users can find them? It would help in the process of getting them approved. --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 05:50, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

== Johto tag? ==

Does anyone know what code I need to type in to add the "This user's favourite region is Johto" user tag to my page? [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 15:59, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
:{{template|User Favorite Region}}: Check the template page, and follow the instructions, - [[User:Kogoro|'''<sc>Kogoro</sc>''']] '''|''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''<sc>Talk to me</sc>''']] - 16:04, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

OK, thanks! [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 16:48, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

== Glichy ==

the Bulbapedia logo vanished.--[[User:Tobytse99|tobytse]] 05:57, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

:I mean, it is like that the Achieve database is down--[[User:Tobytse99|tobytse]] 06:01, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
::Currently being upgraded, don't freak out. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:01, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

== Anyone else experiencing this? ==

I realize that the wiki has probably been undergoing some upgrading. But nearly everytime I try to edit something, it redirects me to the "Page cannot save, try logging out and back in' message or whatever it is. And I have to sit there constantly pressing save page just to get it to save. And yet it's like everyone else can still edit the pages without any trouble. Is anyone else experiencing this? [[User:Mudkipchan|Mudkipchan]] 00:27, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

:It's a known issue, yes, and affects everyone, not just you. The problem generally goes away if you hit save a few times, so until it's fixed, you'll just need to work around it. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 04:34, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

:Yes, I've been getting that problem too, and sometimes it makes me lose everything I've just typed! But here's some advice: paste everything you typed into a document first, then click "Save". That way, if you get the error message, you don't have to type it all out again. [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 09:50, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
::Are both of you using Firefox? I've found that Firefox usually saves things like that, so you don't have to worry about losing what you just typed. --Posted by [[User:Pikamander2|Pikamander2]] [[User Talk:Pikamander2|(Talk)]] at 12:00, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

:::I use Firefox 3.5, yes. And it "holds" entered data like that for you, so if you accidentally leave the page, you can generally hit the back button and still retain your writing. (not on all websites, however.) --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 22:54, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
::::This should have been resolved, though, with the updates to the software. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 23:03, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

I am facing the same problem too.
--♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''niz''']]♪♫ 07:00, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
:What browser are you using Adyniz?--[[User:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Ho-Oh (Pokémon)|orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Lugia (Pokémon)|ire]] 07:02, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

== PNGs ==

I've noticed that a lot of the animated images on Bulbapedia, like the Pokémon game icons, are being replaced with PNG versions. Is this really necessary? It's spoiling all the fun for everyone who can't see PNG animations on their computers. The GIFs looked fine as they were. I know it's an encyclopedia, but sometimes fun is more important than quality isn't it? [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 09:55, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
:On Bulbapedia, quality is more important that "fun". That said, there is no difference between animated GIFs and APNGs, aside from which browsers can see both. --Posted by [[User:Pikamander2|Pikamander2]] [[User Talk:Pikamander2|(Talk)]] at 11:55, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
::Actually, the image quality in AniPNGs is quite a bit higher than that of GIFs. -- '''[[User:evkl|evkl]]''' [[User_talk:evkl|(need to talk?)]] 13:05, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

But my browser can't see PNG animations! It's not fair! [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 12:51, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
:Sorry, but it's kind of the nature of the internet that not everyone will get all features. Stuff that renders "right" in IE is standards-broken and won't render properly in standards compliant browsers. Getting Firefox is generally a Good Idea if you're currently on IE-Firefox 3.5 is a superb browser, the best Mozilla has put out in ages. We can't please everybody, and as I said, the .gif image quality is unacceptably low. -- '''[[User:evkl|evkl]]''' [[User_talk:evkl|(need to talk?)]] 13:19, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
::Even more Opera seems to have support for APNGs too (maybe others can do it too). So there is actually a choice. Going from IE to any other (non-IE-based) browser is a good idea anyway. — [[User:Tenno Seremel|Tenno Seremel]] 22:37, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

== Why? ==

um, why is the main page crystal-themed now? do we have some other info about something else? [[User:Empath-Silvio|Empath-Silvio]] 15:23, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
:Honestly, I have no idea. But please remember to sign your comments with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). Thanks! -- '''[[User:evkl|evkl]]''' [[User_talk:evkl|(need to talk?)]] 13:35, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

::Honestly, there's only [[User:TTEchidna|one person]] I know who'd be able to pull something like this off...--[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 14:13, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
:::Crystal came out in North-America around this time.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 14:53, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

== Humans ==

I can't seem to find an article on humans here. Is there one at all? [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 17:15, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

:it's not really needed [[User:Ultamatecharizard|Ultamate]][[User Talk:Ultamatecharizard|Charizard]] 00:38, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

:You mean like what are humans? no, that's really not needed. [[User:Empath-Silvio|Empath-Silvio]] 14:41, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
::No, I mean an article detailing the cultural and possible religious background of humans in the franchise. I understand that as of this point, the information is rather lax, but a real glimpse into the "Pokemon world" has been increasingly revealing as the generations go on.

::If it's not disagreed on, I think an article detailing the cultural, technological, and religious development of humans in relation to Pokemon would be very interesting to read. Notable examples include the anime episodes The Ghost of Maiden's Peak, which suggests a Japanese-influenced culture and war, and The Ancient Puzzle of Pokémopolis, which suggests Pokemon were once worshiped as gods (this same idea is suggested in the Eletric Tale of Pikachu chapter on Sabrina and the giant haunter, Black Fog).

::From the games themselves, a rich mythological-cultural background can be seen in G/S/C with the Burned and Tin towers, as well as the monks in the Bellsprout Tower. Arceus being a Pokemon and a god in the fourth gen storyline also clearly suggests more for humans as well as Pokemon... Does anyone see what I'm getting at? [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 14:48, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
:::I see what your saying... but... I don't know, it might not be a good idea. You may want to talk to an admin first. I'd say it's a good idea, but yeah... [[User:Takoto|~~Takoto]] - [[User_talk:Takoto|サソデイ]] 15:07, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

::::My main problem with that article is that it would be mostly speculation, and that the different canons constantly contradict each other is those subjects... But here's an idea: how about you create such a page in your userspace (as a subpage), work on it, and if it's good - we'll consider mainspacing it. If you really want to, that is. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 16:40, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::Yes, it would probably be speculation if we made unnecessary leaps... I'm currently playing through Blue, then Silver and so on, so I'll be sure to take any notes relevant. One thing that stands out is the Rocket member in Mt. Moon that says Pokemon came before humans, so that would easily be an interesting point if elaborated on later. (I also think it interesting to note that there's a "timeline" of events in the Pokemon universe somewhere on this encyclopedia, which appears to be speculative in nature. Suggesting cavemen made the Regis is pretty... off) [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 16:46, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

::::::i see where this is going. i agree it would be an interesting article, but it will be very difficult to write. as i understand it, you have to see each and every episode, because you cannot just pick an episode or two, and summarize everything. also, i agree it will be mainly speculation. but i think it will be a great article to read. if you have the patience to write it, that is. i offer my help in the games, i have played them all and have access to them. notify me! [[User:Empath-Silvio|Empath-Silvio]] 23:16, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::::If you, or anyone else, can help I'd be greatly appreciative. I'm mostly concerned with the games, since the anime has become more culturally-neutral following the first three seasons to make it more accessible in other nations where dubbing can't hide "donuts". So I have little issue with that, but with the games it can be a lot harder because of over-looked things.

:::::::The Rocket grunt that says humans came after Pokemon in Mt. Moon is a fine example, though I believe this was confirmed or clarified in other generations. It's the little things we need to look into, such as the Channelers in first gen (suggestive of a cult presence), and the monks in second (suggestive of religious, or philosophical, organizations). Bulbapedia is our obvious resource, with 'Dex entries suggestive of festivals, legends, and areas being a key source of information, so if anyone wants to help we can compile human-related information on my talk page and work towards filling something out. [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 23:30, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

If there are no ordinary animals in the Pokémon world, does that mean the humans evolved from Pokémon? [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 10:10, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
::An interesting theory, which is at least partially backed by the Lake Trio, but if you want to look for hints to fully confirm I'd recommend playing DPPt or waiting until gen V. I imagine gen V will take a look into the history of humans, as fourth has looked into that of Pokemon. [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 18:40, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
This has now gone off-topic. A reminder to all we have a whole [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/index.php forum] for conversations like this. If you wish to continue, please go there. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 19:30, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

== I have a question. ==

Look, I've been wondering this for ages now, and it's starting to annoy me. Why is the official art so... small? In terms of pixels, it's tiny. And it's really annoying when I'm looking for reference on what a Pokémon looks like, I can barely see it. So yeah, why do we use really tiny versions of the official art rather than clearer, bigger versions? And I don't think it's because you can't find a bigger version of the art, seeing as it would be easy too get one of the official books and scan in the official art and upload it. And I'm sure there's bigger versions of the art on the internet. I'm just wondering is there any real reason we use such small versions? [[User:Takoto|~~Takoto]] - [[User_talk:Takoto|サソデイ]] 20:52, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
:The ''art'' were using is from the official dex on pokemon.co.jp. But, since there isn't any ''art'' on the main page, I guess that you're referring to the animated ''sprites'' in the top corner of every box. You see, in-battle sprites would be too big, not to mention the gender differences. So, we're using the smaller sprites used in the [[PC]] and [[party]] instead. [[User:Pokémon Lover King Mario|Pokémon Lover King Mario]] 13:47, 6 August 2009 (UTC)