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User:DarkMazer

2007-11-05T05:33:19Z

DarkMazer:

Welcome to my user page.

==Current Projects==
I will store incomplete projects on this page as the need arises.

To-do list:
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(will add tasks as I think of/remember them)

==DarkMazer==
To keep it short, I've played the games since Red and Blue, I'll watch the anime when it's on, and I, well, kinda play the TCG. I have the old cards and some new ones, but I'm not sure how new.

-[[User:DarkMazer|DarkMazer]]

Bulbapedia talk:Project Pokédex/Archive 3

2007-09-17T03:37:56Z

DarkMazer: /* Learnsets */

==Movesets==
Just a thought, should we add movesets to each Pokémon page? Maybe it could be a subproject. Also, should would add the Serebii.net Pokédex to the infobox? Should Move Tutor moves be on each Pokémon? -coppro

To Move List, we're getting there. But that's not a critical project yet, we have bigger things to do.

To Serebii dex, no, we only link to our affiliates. Serebii is not one of them, nor is his Dex all that accurate from personal experience.

To Move Tutor, yep. It counts as a learnable move. [[User:Evkl|Evkl]] 00:37, 15 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Why don't we have Serebii as an affiliate? They've greatly improved their Dex recently, too. - hey-nahny-nahny-and-a-hey-ha-ha

If you knew about all the bad blood between myself (and by association, this site) and Joe (and by association, his site, Serebii.net), you wouldn't be asking that question. ^^; --[[User:Archaic|Archaic]] 07:18, 4 October 2005 (CDT)

I'm new to bulbapedia, very interested in helping out, and have a ton of time to kill coming up soon. I was thinking of starting to mass update Pokemon Movelists. I'm planning on effectively copying over the moveset list of Bulbasaur and correcting the fields.

I'd also like to add a section of "ways to acquire move" for moves other than leveling up such as breeding or TM/Tutor only. Is there a sample pokemon I can show my potential designs for this on? --- [[User:Bouldersnap|Bouldersnap]] 04:44, 12 December 2006 (EST)

:We'd be glad to have your help. Generally, we like to avoid having people experiment on main articles; it would be for the best if you could demonstrate your idea here, or in the [[Bulbapedia:Sandbox]]. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] ~[[User talk:Pie|♪]][[Special:Contributions/Pie|♫]] 22:02, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

I want to become a participant also [[User:Ivysaur|Ivysaur]] 18:07, 15 Januari 2007 (GMT)

== My mistake ==

Thanks for that!
About the move tutor, I didn't see it on the bulba page the first time, but I see it now. My mistake! [[User:Coppro|Coppro]] 00:42, 15 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I can help with card text, if anyone needs. Mostly the older sets.--BJ

==Pokémon Information==

The Pokémon pages would benefit from information as a species. I am unsure how would be best to go about this. It's no secret that the best place to get information on a Pokémon from would be the game Pokédexes, now we could do a few things:

*Have subheadings for each Pokédex entry from games.
*Have a single long paragraph with the text from all the Pokédexes mushed together.
*Have a single long paragraph, totally re-written but taking bits of information from Pokédex entries.

I personally would go for the last one. What do you lot think? - [[User:Ferret|Ferret]] 03:56, 3 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Why is no one replying to this to give their opinion? I believe individual species background is a very important part of Pokémon and what makes it special from other creature-training games. I did not want to go ahead and add things when it's not what is wanted or required. - [[User:Ferret|Ferret]] 03:20, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Having no clue what you mean by it, I suggest you make a sample set of edits and see how people respond to it. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]][[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]] 04:09, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

First one should be included anyways, maybe third as well. Definitely not the second. - [[User:Jshadias|Jshadias]] 04:18, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Zhen Lin: It should be obvious really, the Pokémon pages do not cover information about species themseleves yet, only statistical stuff and name origins, the first goal for the Pokédex Project is "'''Expand Pokémon pages to have at least a paragraph of information about a Pokémon, preferably background information on that Pokémon.'''" I'm trying to bring up some ideas to help achieve this goal. - [[User:Ferret|Ferret]] 04:41, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

== Movelists ==

''Add all Generation III movelists to both /GenIII pages and the main page of a Pokémon.''
:Why put the same information in two places, especially when it is just going to be moved when Generation IV is released? - [[User:Jshadias|Jshadias]] 04:04, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Ease of deletion--you don't need to move everything over with the advent of GenIV. [[User:Evkl|evkl]] 10:34, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

== The Infobox ==

Shouldn't Pokémon heights and weights from the game Pokédex be added to the InfoBox - [[User:MTC|MTC]]
:I think you're right... hoo, boy, it's going to be ''fun'' adding all those heights and weights, though. Especially since there's the English feet-inches-pounds versus (what I believe is originally used) the good ol' metric system. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] 23:26, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

==Locations==

Would you like me to add game locations to each Pokémon's page? Please tell me what you think of the table on the [[Pikachu (Pokémon)|Pikachu]] page. [[User:Fabu-Vinny|Fabu-Vinny]] 12:51, 22 May 2005 (UTC)

== Anime information and Manga information ==

These headings should be something like "In the anime" and "In manga", similar to the current "In the TCG" header. - [[User:Jshadias|Jshadias]] 07:34, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

While on the topic of Anime Information, I'd like to see someone else besides me adding Anime Information more often. Please?--[[User:Pokencyclopedia|Pokencyclopedia]] 00:30, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

==Pokédex Data and TCG Pages==

Already on it. Go check out my [[User:Doug_teh_H-Nut|user page]] and see what all I've added in. I'd appreciate it if someone could put in the data that I haven't.

I think that each card should have its own page. I just want to know, how should we go about it? What should we name the pages, say something like [[Beedrill #17 (TCG)]] for the Base One Beedrill? --[[User:Doug_teh_H-Nut|Doug teh H-Nut]]

I see that the Pokédex Data from Stadium 2 needs to be added, but I believe it's the same data as in Gold. Anyone with the game with them wanna check? --[[User:PikamasterADV|PikamasterADV]] 22:22, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Is there even Pokédex data in Colosseum and XD? I don't think there is (not 100% sure) but if not, it should be deleted from the Pokédex template. --[[User:Mudkiplover56|Mudkiplover56]] 23:36, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

===TCG Pokédex entries?===
Should they be just part of {{bp|Project TCGDex}}, or be included in the data here? '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 00:08, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

== As a Species? ==

What gives? If this project is meant to classify Pokemon as a species, then why doesn't it? There are stats, yes, but the Wikipedia page on Pikas doesn't list those facts, does it? Listen, I worked hard on a Pikachu entry for Wikipedia, as follows:

<nowiki>
==Biology== A Pikachu (plural also Pikachu) is a ground-dwelling mammal belonging to a subspecies of [[rodent]]s including itself, it's evolutions, [[Plusle]], [[Minun]], and possibly undiscovered others, although pikachu are by far the most well known. Pikachu have short, yellow fur with brown stripes on its back, black-tipped ears, along with an unusually shaped tail, resembling a lightning bolt. They are often found in forests, plains, and occasionally near electrical sources, on most continents throughout the world. It is also a popular pet, and relatively easy to maintain, with little exercise necessary for it's well being, although periodic electric discharge is extremely important. Pikachu are known to have acute senses of hearing, thanks to its large ears. Most domestic pikachu are very intelligent, understanding and interpreting human [[speech]] at levels far surpassing those of any pet [[dog]]. Pikachu can be harmful [[pests]], eating and sometimes destroying telephone poles, wires, and other electronic equipment. In communities found near wooded areas, it is not uncommon for a pikachu to sometimes show up under or near houses, presumably attracted by the electrical output generated by the dwellers' appliances.

===Diet=== Living in wooded areas, pikachu often are found foraging for berries. Instead of climbing trees, they use small electrical shocks to release the berries from the tree, roasting them at the same time. As pets, they can be fed a variety of processed food, available at many pet stores. Alternatively, pikachu are tolerant to most "human" food, and sometimes enjoy it more then the more nutritional food designed for their biology.

===Electrical Abilities=== Exclusive to the Pikachu's subspecies is the obvious ability to release electric discharges of varying intensity, at will, through glandular pouches residing in its cheeks. These glands allow it to store and release a unique form of chemical energy, which can be released in bolts of lightning or [[ball lightning]] to defend itself from attackers, to cook food, to be used in battle, at the command from it's trainer, or in self-defense in the wild. Pikachu are rarely known to purposefully attack others besides the aforementioned, but particularly aggressive pikachu have been recorded. Pikachu often travel in packs, and are rarely territorial. However, when threatened, a group can generate an intense electrical offensive, and the electro-magnetic forces exerted by the resulting field can even produce a short lived, localized thunderstorm. As pikachu build up energy in their electricity glands, it is often needed to discharge, as to not result in a short, or worse, which can lead to physical [[Paralysis ]], or in severe cases, death. Pikachu release the built-up energy through their tail, which acts as a grounding rod, to safely remove unneeded energy. A sure sign to tell if a location is inhabited by pikachu (or a member of its subspecies) is to look for patches of burnt grass, which is the result of the discharge. Through an inability to release a buildup of electricity, a pikachu may develop a rare condition, very similar to the human [[flu]]. This illness is most often caused by strong nearby electro-magnetic forces, which severely impact the electric glands. If a pikachu is introduced to a magnet, it will be attracted towards its cheeks, and display other common attributes of [[magnetism]].</nowiki>

Good, no? I'd be willing to write comprehensive facts on ''every'' pokemon, but first, I must ask, is this acceptable, or are you fine with figures and charts? A disgrace, I say! Pokemon as a species means treating them as real, living creatures!

Again, I would be fine with writing articles like this on ''all'' pokemon, even if I was the ''only'' one writing them. Hell, I think I'd prefer it that way. So, would everyone be fine with that? I'm gonna go ahead and add this to Pikachu's Page, ok?

[[User:Supermariorobot|Supermariorobot]] 04:15, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
:I'm fine with it, and think it's great. The more the better, not everything has to be hard mechanical game information. It's the fluff that makes the Pokemon universe go 'round anyway. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 04:20, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

::Nice. So, I guess I'm in charge of this? Or would I need to ralk to an Admin? [[User:Supermariorobot|Supermariorobot]] 04:21, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

:::Like it's said on Wikipedia: be bold. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 04:27, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

::::LET ALL KNOW THIS!!!! I, Supermariorobot, am in charge of writing Biological discription of Pokemon as a species! w007! [[User:Supermariorobot|Supermariorobot]] 04:32, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

::::Is there somewhere I should put this on the site, besides here? [[User:Supermariorobot|Supermariorobot]] 04:38, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

:Not the worst idea we've ever had, but take note of some of the edits I've made on the Pikachu article itself. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] 05:42, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

::Supermariobot, you have come up with an excellent idea. The articles for other well-known Pokémon like Bulbasaur will be easy to update. However, I wish you good luck in trying to find such comprehensive information for the newer, lesser-known Pokémon, such as Vespiquen or Pachirisu. And the legendaries will be even harder to produce information for. :) [[User:Pokéball|Pokéball]] 15:53, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

== Type effectiveness ==

All Pokémon pages have a section called, "Type effectiveness". Currently the [[Template:Type effectiveness|Template]] used for "Later versions" reflects "the average physical/special ratio". For [[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl|Diamond and Pearl]] it has already been revealed that whether an attack is physical or special will be determined individually for each attack instead of based on what attack type it is. This means that the physical/special ratio no longer applies to type effectiveness. There needs to be another section that does not reflect the physical/special ratio. I would like to know how we should go about doing this. [[User:Drapion|Drapion]] 00:33, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

:I was working on this but got confused. Can someone explain this? At first I thought that the bar meant how well an attack from other PKMN with that type would do, but it turns out that it's a measure of STAB as if this PKMN were using an attack of that type or what? [[User:Gambler|Gambler]] 06:30, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
::The type effectiveness is how effective a type of that element would be against the Pokémon. For example, against Onix, Water is x4 (400 on the graph), Ground is x2 (200 on the graph), Psychic is x1 (100 on the graph), Flying is x0.5 (50 on the graph), Poison is x0.25 (25 on the graph). But the system we have was designed for when the Defense and Special Defense also came into play for this. Even before the DP changes, the section was badly explained and the visuals were unuseful and caused page stretching problems (though this problem has been reduced in the new system, it still exists for screens with low resolutions). I think a better system needs to be designed and implemented. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] 06:44, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
:::Oh, I see. Let me give it a thing over the night and I'll try something in the Sanbox tomorrow. Thanks Pie! [[User:Gambler|Gambler]] 06:50, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
::::Idea! Now that was quick! How about replaceing it for a "Damage Ratio" table? it should have a column for every type and 2 rows, one for Physical and other for Special. Inside each cell goes the effect of that type of attack with that kind of interaction. Onix Ex.

{| border=1
| ||PKMN Def || Normal || Grass || Rock ||
|-
|Physical || 160 ||
|-
|Special || 45 ||
|}

== Style issues ==
Or Bulbapedia feng shui. Believe it or not, Bulbapedia was discussed in the #bulbagarden chat. Wow. Anyway, besides a general consensus that more useful information should be added than the Name origin information and the articles really need fleshing out in a lot of ways, some thoughts about the style of the Pokémon species articles came up, and since I have a backbone, I'm the one who's sharing what those thoughts were.
* Apparently, the Type effectiveness is not being well received. Others have told me it's ugly and not particularly informative. Why was it added? Does it need to be kept, or could it be removed, or replaced with a more stylish alternative?
* The Name origins are not being considered particularly factual, interesting, useful information either. These may be better moved down to the Other information section, perhaps even as two subsections under Trivia (since, despite the fact that it's unrelated to the name, speculation on design inspirations are usually included under Name origin).
* Appearances may fit better before the Game information, rather than after. In general, it will help the flow of articles if sections with tables are moved below sections with text.
The majority of these are not my own suggestions, though I understand the thought process behind each point and think that this major reorganizing is worth consideration, particularly since I've just started working to organize the articles anyway. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] 08:57, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

:Here's what I think should be done: The RBY Type Effectiveness section should be removed, because the information is only useful to a small number of people. If that's too extreme for some people, then a small section detailing the differences in RBY should be added as part of the current Type Effectiveness section. Secondly, the Type Effectiveness sections should not take into account the physical/special ratio because it won't apply in Diamond/Pearl, and because Pokémon with lower special defense have bars that extend far beyond the edge of the page. [[User:Drapion|Drapion]] 15:03, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
::That's certainly true. I mean, one only has to take a look at {{p|Rhyhorn}}'s type effectiveness section to see the problem with the current style. Perhaps we should only indicate x1/4, x1/2, x2, and x4 type effectivenesses, and then how more or less effective a physical attack is compared to a special attack - if anyone still can't figure out which attacks would be best for them to use, then clearly they need to start using a calculator more frequently. (Which, conveniently enough, will be part of the Pokétchi or whatever it's called.) --[[User:Pie|Pie]] 19:52, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

===Style issues take 2===
All right, the revised layout has been up on the project page for a while. Now, '''does anyone have any questions, comments, or concerns regarding this layout?''' If no one has any changes they'd like to see to this layout, I think it's about time we set to work organizing all the articles and adding in the appropriate sections. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] 23:52, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
:Last call for comments. Otherwise, reorganization will begin. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] 23:26, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

== Evo boxes ==

I think we should standardize the sprites that we put there, perhaps changing all of them to ###.png, since we know the National Dex numbers to them all now. Then, it'd be easier to do, or even to use the images on userpages for the teams, like I do. Plus, I've noticed we need to get images for all 493 of them now. I've set up a template, [[Template:sp]], which sets a sprite at (whatever is linked after the vertical pipe).png. For example, you could do <nowiki>{{</nowiki>sp|001<nowiki>}}</nowiki>, and you'd come up with the sprite for Bulbasaur, {{sp|001}}.

It'd work well, too, for Pokémon we haven't got numbers for yet, when Generation V comes around... All you'd need to do is input the name instead, then change the sprite to a number-based one when the National numbers were revealed.

Also, are we going to change all of the sprites that we have for RSE to DP ones now for all of the oldies as well as having DP sprites for the new guys? [[User:TTEchidna|Tom Temprotran]] 08:49, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

Personally, I don't think there's that much of a graphical difference between the GBA and DS sprites, but if anyone wants to take the time doing it - feel free. A lot of Pokemon are actually missing evo boxes and sprites, actually. That and level-up moves seem to be the things missing from the most pages. --[[User:Zeta|Zeta]] 08:52, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

I personally would like that entire archive revamped. Every single DS Pokemon sprite, both genders (where applicable, if not, then all the females mostly), all in PNG format. Right now, it's incomplete... I'd be glad to help if we undertake such a little image project. [[User:DanPMK|MK]] 10:34, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

:I think we should go for the DS sprites. There is a difference, and you can see it when you compare the sprites of the larger ones - the GBA sprites are 64x64, while the DS sprites are 80x80. The larger sprites means an improved quality. (Changing the evo-chart boxes might be a good idea, though, since they're constructed with the smaller 64x64 sprites in mind.)
:Also, standardization and templates are good. The less sloppy Bulbapedia is, the better. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] 18:09, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

I put up the Houndour and Houndoom sprites from pearl/ diamond if you want to see how it looks in the boxes. --[[User:Link3710|Link3710]] October 8 0:50

Now, the real issue: do we take the animated versions? Do we do the second or first frame? I noticed that for most of the sprites we take the second frame of the Emerald ones.

Also, we'll need to take a roll call of those still in need of the evoboxes, then those still in need of sprites, and some of the Shin'ō natives still don't have their National number, or Shin'ō number (if it's applicable) in their box.

...I also have to wonder, is it possible to introduce past sprites to the articles? Like, for Charizard's article, having all of the sprites so far, including animated ones for Crystal, Emerald, and D/P? That way, when a new version comes out, we can just move the previous sprites to that old sprite section. [[User:TTEchidna|Tom Temprotran]] 02:00, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
:We've considered having sprite sections before, I think, but never decided on the best way to do it. As for finding out who needs what, there's only one easy way to do it - go through each article one by one... --[[User:Pie|Pie]] 02:14, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

For the record, I fully support having a "Sprites and Other Artwork" section on every Pokemon's page near the bottom featuring a collection of Sugimori artwork from every gen they've been in, all the sprites, and line-art or screen-caps from the anime where applicable. --[[User:Zeta|Zeta]] 05:52, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

===Sprite suggestion===
I don't know WHY we used the second frame/Emerald's, as some of them look pretty bad intermediate sprites. What we should do is make a sprite archive, separate them into 4 subpages by Generation, and get every single sprite, the GBC versions for the old ones, and name them as follows:
*The first 2 letters could be the generation and version, the next 3 the number, then a 'b' if a back sprite, if we have those, and an 's' at the end if shiny Example:
**Japanese Red/Green would be '1g'
**Japanese Blue/English Red/Blue would be '1b'
**Yellow version's sprites would be '1y'
**Gold would be '2g', Silver '2s', Crystal's animations '2c'
***A Charmander from Japanese Red would be '1g004'
***A Bulbaaur from Gold would be '2g001'
***A Shiny Squirtle from Silver would be '2s007s'
***An Unown from Crystal in the form of B would be '2c201-B'
*For Gen III:
**Ruby and Sapphire's 'rs'
**FireRed and LeafGreen's 'fl'
**Emerald's animations: 'em'
***A Shiny Unown from Emerald in the from of a '?' (_ for the ?) would be 'em201-_s'
***An Attack Deoxys from FireRed would be 'fl386-A'
*And for Diamond and Pearl:
**First 2 letters would be 'dp', then the next 3 the number '###', then an 'm', 'f', or 'g' for the gender, a 'b' if a back, and an 's' if it's shiny.
***Male Venusaur: 'dp003m'
***Female Shiny Mr. Mime: 'dp122fs'

If this sounds too complicated, or just stupid, please comment XP. Note that I will help this project if it's decided we do it, I'm good at wiki-formatting, and can really help with the sprites. Oh, and by the way, the animated sprites are going to be ripped soon. Cheers. [[User:DanPMK|MK]] 07:51, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
:It is a complex code, but a comprehendable one, assuming we type up a guide for it and add it to some sub-page of the Project Pokédex page - even I had a bit of trouble following it as a list. ^^o Also, I think perhaps "sprite" or even just "spr" should be added to the front of the names, just in case someone looking over the filenames such as in the Recent Changes doesn't look over the list and just think "Bzuh?" Descriptive filenames are usually good. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] 18:57, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

What about all the pokemon that don't get new sprites in Fire Red/Leaf Green? Also Gold and Silver backs are the same so you only need to have one. --[[User:Link3710|Link3710]] 22:53, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

:I agree with 'spr', Pie. Link3710: The Gold and Silver sprites were indeed different, and we wouldn't add duplicates for the sprites that are the same in FireRed/LeafGreen. Only the first 151 and Teddiursa (for some reason) were changed from R/S/E. [[User:DanPMK|MK]] 23:59, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

:The fronts were different for Gold and silver sprites but not the backs just check it out if you have both. So is the code going to be sprgg###esb-x where g=game #=national dex number e=gender s=shiny b=back and x=anything else?

::Yes, and I believe Crystal used the same back sprites as well.
::*spr(gg)(###)[e][-x][b][s].png
::[[User:DanPMK|MK]] 16:19, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

:::so for gsc back sprites should we use gsc instead of 2g 2s and 2c? Anyhow if noone disagrees with this I already have bulbasaur through blastoise ready and named according to this.--[[User:Link3710|Link3710]] 16:46, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
::I realized all generations have the same back sprites so we might as well just use the generation number for back sprites. Anyhow if anyone has any suggestions please make them now.--[[User:Link3710|Link]] 20:16, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

:::We need underscores, as I just renamed the bulk of my sprites to this formula and they look better. How's this?
:::{| border=1
! Game/Gen
! Sprite
! Status
|-
|Red/Green (J)
|'''spr_1g_###'''
|[http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Category:Pok%C3%A9mon_Red_and_Green_sprites Complete]
|-
|Blue (J) & Red/Blue (E)
|'''spr_1b_###'''
|[http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Category:Pok%C3%A9mon_Red_and_Blue_sprites Complete]
|-
|Yellow
|'''spr_1y_###'''
|[http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Category:Pok%C3%A9mon_Yellow_sprites Complete]
|-
|Gen I back
|'''spr_b_g1_###'''
|[http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Category:Generation_I_back_sprites Complete]
|-
| colspan=3 | <hr>
|-
|Gold
|'''spr_2g_###[_s]'''
|?
|-
|Silver
|'''spr_2s_###[_s]'''
|?
|-
|Crystal (anim)
|'''spr_2c_###[_s]'''
|?
|-
|Gen II back
|'''spr_b_g2_###[_s]'''
|?
|-
| colspan=3 | <hr>
|-
|<s>Ruby/Sapphire</s>
|<s>'''spr_3r_###[_s]'''</s>
|<s>?</s>
|-
|Fire/Red (1-151 + 216)
|'''spr_3f_###[_s]'''
|?
|-
|Emerald (anim)
|'''spr_3e_###[_s]'''
|[http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Category:Pokémon_Emerald_sprites Missing 28]
|-
|Gen III back
|'''spr_b_g3_###[_s]'''
|[http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Category:Generation_3_back_sprites Missing 3]
|-
| colspan=3 | <hr>
|-
|Diamond/Pearl
|'''spr_4d_###[_g][_s]'''
|?
|-
|Gen IV back
|'''spr_b_g4_###[_g][_s]'''
|?
|-
| colspan=3 | <hr>
|-
| colspan=3 | [_g] is gender for 4th gen sprites [_s] is shiny for 2nd+ gen sprites
|-
| colspan=3 | <hr>
|-
| colspan=3 | -a at the end (but before _s) for Unown's letter <s>-# at the end (but before _s) for Spinda's variant</s> Scrath that, too many variants -[weather] (sun/rain/hail) at the end (but before _s) for Castform's forms -[form] at the end (but before _s) for Deoxys's form -[type] at the end (but before _s) for Minomutchi/madam's 2nd type -[region] at the end (but before _s) for Karanakushi/Toritodon's region -[type] at the end (but before _s) for Arseus's type
|} [[User:DanPMK|MK]] 07:49, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Now here's the thing: do we animate the sprites as they are in the game, or do we just use the second frame? It'd be weird just to have them flash between the two frames, since most of them do something else as well... Should we just use the second frame?

I do like the system for naming the images, though. And they are all going to be .png, right? Except for the animated ones, if we do that. Would we have to make a .swf if we were to animate the Emerald ones? COULD we imbed a .swf into the page? I know the Crystal ones don't do much besides frame changes, but Emerald ones rotate, bounce... all sorts of things.

Also, for Unown's letter, for ? and !, can we use those in the filename? Maybe for ? it could be qm and ! it can be em, so it doesn't interfere with the letters. Then if there's any more in future generations, they can be at things like pe for a period, co for a comma... and so on.

Of course, to make things easier for the sprite boxes, should we keep them as ###.png, for the latest-generation sprites, and have those as well be at the other thing for when they're replaced with whatever comes next? I think it'd make things a lot easier, and we'd not have to change the evo boxes every generation. Because, really, when Gen V comes along, we'll have 493 to change, and then at least 100 more to add. [[User:TTEchidna|Tom Temprotran]] 19:03, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

I THINK we could do the animations as gif, and that could work. Also the full Crystal sprites have more than two frames, Venasaur has 27 frames if captured fully. About the evo boxes they take about two seconds if all we have to change is the number so we don't neccessarily need double images. --[[User:Link3710|Link]] 19:39, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

:Still images would be PNG, animated images would be GIF. For Unown's ! form, '!' can be used in a file name, but ? cannot, so 'em' is fine. For Gen V, they might end up using the same sprites. If so, we'll just add the new ones. As for Emerald's animations, they have been ripped in .gif format perfectly. Example: [[Image:Spr_3e_001.gif]] [[User:DanPMK|MK]] 21:07, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

::For backs do we even need the _b since the generation part is different.--[[User:Link3710|Link]] 19:20, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
:::You're right, we should use a different thing for backs, like '''spr_b_g#_###[_s]'''. That way, all the backs are near eachother on the list. Oh, and with the emerald animations, the Ruby/Sapphire sprites are unecessary. [[User:DanPMK|MK]] 10:26, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
::Even if its just '''spr_g#_###[_s]''' they'll be together because the others will be #g instead of g#. Where should we put the sprite section under evolution?--[[User:Link3710|Link]] 21:17, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
:::Just wanna make sure you can tell it's a back sprite from it's name. I started the Emerald ones, got many up so far [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Category:Pok%C3%A9mon_Emerald_sprites here]. [[User:DanPMK|MK]] 02:47, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
::Less confusing the better though. I'll do green sprites. --[[User:Link3710|Link]] 19:50, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
:::Emerald sprites done. Gonna work on the FireRed/LeafGreen ones soon. I'll volunteer for all the Gen III and Gen IV animated ones as well. [[User:DanPMK|MK]] 10:16, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
::::Please do NOT put the animated Emerald sprites in the evolution boxes. The animation in that part looks tacky, and the DP sprites are preferred anyway. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] 13:26, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::I only put them there temporarily waiting for the D/P sprites to be uploaded (since we obviously don't don't have Emerald sprites for the D/P's) Also finished the Gen 3 back sprites. [[User:DanPMK|MK]] 15:17, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::Ah, okay. I'd avoid doing things like that in the future, however - animated sprites have their uses, but they're not particularly good placeholders. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] 16:51, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Yup, I wasn't sure if they were going to upload the D/P sprites anyway...the ones now don't follow the pattern above, but we can simply use ###.png for the static images of the most recent generation. Also: Does anyone have the animated Emerald sprites for Unown and Castform's alts? As well as the back sprites for Deoxys in Emerald, FireRed, and LeafGreen? Those are the only ones missing for the 3rd gen so far... [[User:DanPMK|MK]] 19:48, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Update: Yellow sprites done. Check the chart above for updates. [[User:DanPMK|MK]] 15:37, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Red/Green done [[User:DanPMK|MK]] 19:36, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::::All generation I sprites done (Blue and back since last time). I think by now I know all the first 151 numbers and positions by heart. My fingers hurt. [[User:DanPMK|MK]] 23:08, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::::As I've seen them needed, I've put the D/P sprites at ###.png, for easier access in Pokédex pages and such. Any luck finding the alternate versions of the Unowns? And how about the mini, Party-screen sprites of them all? Should they be here, too? They don't seem to have ANY difference between gen III and IV, so we have that going for us if we do them, at least... [[User:TTEchidna|Tom Temprotran]] 12:38, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::You guys are all lucky. I can't even see the sprites on my computer screen. Wherever they are supposed to be on the page, nothing is there. Does anyone know why? I know it's not my browser, because I can see images perfectly on Wikipedia, and the Bulbapedia logo even shows up. Can someone help me? [[User:Pokéball|Pokéball]] 15:59, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

== Categories ==

Recently, I've been categorizing some Pokémon's pages like nuts, organizing them by how they evolve, and stuff like that. What does everytone think of it? I know it's kinda overloaded on Eevee's and some others' pages, like Poliwhirl, but can't we remedy that somehow?

Also, should we categorize Pokémon that don't evolve at all, legendaries, and Pokémon that evolve only by level? Or just leave off the level-evolvers, since that's pretty much everyone? Also, should the Pokémon be categorized under Pokémon that don't evolve, and bring all of the final forms in, or under Pokémon that are not part of an evolution chain, to prevent that? [[User:TTEchidna|Tom Temprotran]] 02:15, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

== Wobbuffet and Wynaut: Other appearances ==

[http://youtube.com/watch?v=iizKu2J1G7w See here] for Mystery Dungeon appearance. It should be noted when you watch this that Wobbuffet's Japanese name means something like "That's the way it is" in Japanese, and the joke was lost in translation, but Wynaut is so cute! --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 16:19, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

==Joining?==
How do I join this project? I would like to. [[User:Carnivine|Carnivine]]

I would also like to join. I would like to help in any way possible. [[User:Djensen1992|Djensen1992]]

I also am interested in joining the project.--[[User:Durgle|Durgle]] 21:07, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

I, also, would very much like to join this project. - [[User:C.Olimar788|C.Olimar788]] 00:34, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Funny how people ask if they could join in this section, but they are never answered. I would also like to help. [[User:Pokéball|Pokéball]] 16:35, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

I would like to join the project. -[[User:DarkMazer|DarkMazer]] 20:12, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Can i Join? --[[User:Bearfan121|Bearfan121]] 17:26, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
:Everyone, sign your name on the project page to join. And only do so if you're prepared to get your grammar scrutinized, all according to the good ol' {{bp|manual of style}}. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 02:52, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

==Screenshots from the anime==
I've noticed in a few articles, there are pictures of the Pokémon under the '''In the anime''' heading. Should there be screenshots of all Pokémon in the anime? I'd be more than happy to help with that if it's needed. --[[User:PAK Man|PAK Man]] 16:00, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

== Basic Stats Radar Graph ==

Yeah, I'm kinda posting this topic to vent some of my ideas on how to display information. In this one I'll focus on displaying the basic stats. The current system is the values, along with the horizontal bars. I personally thought of replacing it with a slightly more graphic way of displaying it: namely using radar-graphs. I've prepared some samples: [http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v254/Democalyps/Misc/Bulbasaur.png Bulbasaur], [http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v254/Democalyps/Misc/Ivysaur.png Ivysaur], [http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v254/Democalyps/Misc/Venusaur.png Venusaur], [http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v254/Democalyps/Misc/Charizard.png Charizard] and [http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v254/Democalyps/Misc/Weedle.png Weedle]

I personally am willing to create all the needed graphs, it's quite a quick process so I can get them all done on reasonably short term. Next to these would be a small table stating the exact values. The shapes of these, along with the size give a more visual indication of what kind of pokemon it is, status-wise. I've sorted them so, that the top half is defence/health, the bottom is speed and offensive power, left is special and the right is physical. Along with these graphs I suggest adding a bar, similar to those currently displayed on the pages, displaying the total of basic stats (i.e. all values added up); again along with the numeric value. The latter gives a good indication of the overall strength of that specific pokemon. I'm still working on how to properly format that one though; the maximum total can run up to 720 (Arceus); a width or height of 720px is a bit too much. ^^;

As for the base-stats of the Red, Blue and Yellow games (where Sp.Atk and Sp. Def haven't been seperated yet); since it's only 151 extra graphs, I wouldn't mind creating and adding a secondary graph for those pokemon.

As for the format of the images; The ones I made are just proto-types, but I reckoned this size and colour would make a nice, neat and neutral-looking graph. This is, however, open to discussion. =3

On a final, slightly unrelated note, I personally feel the type advantage thing could just as well be taken away. Since the special/physical deviations of the types have been taken out, the current information is pretty much stating the obvious. A quick glance at a type-chart can give you the exact same information. Clearing them out will remove the in my humble opinion rather annoying page-stretching.

So... Yeah ^^ I'd like to become a part of this Pokedex project and would like to hear how you all feel about this and whether or not you want me to start implementing the graphs.

--[[User:Democalypse|Democalypse]] 23:11, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

...I dunno, we already have them in bar form... And just looking at the type chart might cause someone to miss a double weakness or a double resistance, or a neutralization effect. --'''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 00:09, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, but the bars don't really show how the values relate to eachother on the whole. Plus, the bars tend to take up a lot of space and stretch the page (which really damages the neatness of the page as a whole). The solution to the latter you addressed is simple: creating a third type chart along with the two we already have, in which we'll also include all presently existing dual-types. Basically what we have now is just stating the obvious, taking up space and stretching the page. X__x --[[User:Democalypse|Democalypse]] 22:56, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

:Please keep the weaknesses/resistances on the individual Pokémon's pages. When deciding what to use against a particular opposing Pokémon, I go to that Pokémon's page and check the type effectiveness there. That's a lot easier than checking a type chart, and maybe forgetting 1 of the Pokémon's 2 types. [[User:Zurqoxn|Zurqoxn]] 23:05, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

== Game data structure ==

Since we have headings for the other formats, I suggest that the sections of game data we have go under a broad "games" heading. I'm particularly proposing that "NPC appearances" is a subheading of this and not locations, since an appearance isn't the same as a location.

See this version of Bulbasaur's page: [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Bulbasaur_%28Pok%C3%A9mon%29&oldid=124619] --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 15:10, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
:Sounds reasonable to me. Go right ahead. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] ~[[User talk:Pie|♪]][[Special:Contributions/Pie|♫]] 16:08, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

== Wild levels ==

I got this request on my talk page:
:''Can you make a new template for Pokédex. It involves the use of telling users levels of which Pokémon are caught at e.g. Dialga. --[[User:Pokemongeniusscientist|Zywxn]]''
I'm bringing it up here because, while it's an interesting idea, I'm not sure how it would work. It would certainly be easy to add to the Pokédex template for Dialga but some of the common wild Pokémon have levels all over the place. And even in the case of the legendaries, levels aren't consistent. For example, Ho-Oh is level 40 in Gold and level 70 in Silver.

More importantly, is this a worthwhile venture? --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 23:41, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
:I could see it as a possible extra column on the Game locations table. It can already be found on location articles, which the tables link to, but I suppose there's no good reason to keep it off the species articles. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] ~[[User talk:Pie|♪]][[Special:Contributions/Pie|♫]] 00:58, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

== Hoenn numbers? ==

I know they're in the data, but honestly, should we have the Hoenn Dex numbers for Pokémon like Bulbasaur, who aren't in the Hoenn Dex proper? After all, we don't have Bulbasaur's Sinnoh Dex number as 152... --'''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 23:57, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

:The Sinnoh Dex numbers for Bulbasaur etc. ''do not exist'', whereas the Hoenn Dex numbers do. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]][[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]] 06:00, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

::I know, but still. Bulbasaur may be 203 technically, but you can't see them, except when you cheat to catch them in-game. --'''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 06:03, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

== About external links and fan shrines... ==

I couldn't help but notice that within the Project Pokedex section, it is mentioned that Pokemon can receive not only wikipedia links but fan shrine links, too.

Now, before I jumped ahead of myself, I checked a few of the obviously more popular Pokemon, like Eevee or Pikachu. You can't go wrong with that. What I noticed is that the only fan stuffs listed is fanlistings, though. While that's something, it is what it is... a list. Granted, Poke-centric (that is, non human) shrines seem to be hard to come by in the 'States for some reason.

So, my question is, what would I have to do to get a fan shrine listed? Does there have to meet certain requirements? Is it necessary that it's a fanlisting? The site is in English, in case you're wondering. I know the ratio of Japanese artsy Poke-centric sites to US ones is extremely skewed in their favor, so I can see where that could be a concern, if a concern at all.
--[[User:Nidorino|Nidorino]] 16:56, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
:I would say in this matter, it's more quality that matters than notability. If you have a site that is good enough to be of interest to someone looking for some sort of information on the Pokémon - go ahead and add it. But if it's something that's low-quality and not useful, expect to see the link removed shortly after.
:Also, I would rule that foreign language sites can also be included - but with stricter inclusion standards, at the bottom of the external links list, and with its language included in parentheses so people don't click expecting an English site and get something in a different language. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] ~[[User talk:Pie|♪]][[Special:Contributions/Pie|♫]] 18:03, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

::Well, it's actually more interesting and for leisure than it is informational. I sorta made it both because I thought the Nidoran line was severely underappreciated and I got a little tired of the thousands of informational Pokemon sites but no fun multimedia ones. I suppose for what it's worth, it'll probably be really nice for any Pokemon fan since there's lots to see and do (for a Nido centric site, it's actually doing really well), I put a ''lot'' of work into it as well.

::The quality lies in the content, I go all out on what talents I have all for the sake of Nido Pokemon. There's also people who share the same idea, so a lot of contributions have come from people all over, it's probably ''one of'' the biggest Nido fan gatherings, which truthfully isn't a hard goal to aspire for considering the Pokemon in question. My main reasoning behind it, though, is that I just think that Nido fans shouldn't be left out of the picture, considering I know how hard it is to find anything interesting about them at all.

::So I guess what it comes down to is what one wants. It someone's trying to read hard facts, well, they could do that anywhere. But if someone's looking for something fun and different, that's the goal I want to accomplish.

::Would that still be okay?--[[User:Nidorino|Nidorino]] 18:17, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

== Biology ==

There's been a bit of controversy over the content in the biology section of {{p|Typhlosion}}'s article. It may be an idea to keep an eye over the stuff that goes in that section. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 23:13, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
:... how in the world did we miss that? D: --[[User:Pie|Pie]] ~[[User talk:Pie|♪]][[Special:Contributions/Pie|♫]] 00:34, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

==Diamond and Pearl Pokéradar==
In relation to the Pokeradar in Daimond and Pearl. Should it be mentioned in the Rarity section like [[Nidoran♀ (Pokémon)]] or in the Location section like [[Venonat (Pokémon)]]. Just asking so that there can be some consistancy in the articles. [[User:Pterodactal|Pterodactal]] 08:44, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
:Do we need to point out that the Pokéradar Pokémon are rare? If not, we have a free space to fit it in:
{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #{{poison color}};"
! Game
! [[Rarity]]
! Location
|-
| [[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl]] || [[Pokéradar]] || [[Route 201]]
|}
:Otherwise, I prefer how Venonat looks. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 17:05, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
:They aren't always rare. And I've been adding in an availability template to Pokémon pages:

{{Availability|
type=ice |
gen=3 |
rsrarity=Few |
rsarea=[[Shoal Cave]] |
erarity=Few |
earea=[[Shoal Cave]] |
dprarity=Rare |
dparea=[[Route]]s {{rtn|216}} and {{rtn|217}}, [[Acuity Lakefront]] ([[Poké Radar]]) |
}}

That's what {{p|Snorunt}} has. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 01:07, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

::I'm missing how that template affects the current issue. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 21:50, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the help. So what about those in the Trophy Garden but need the pokéradar to be found. Should this be mentioned in the location section as well as that they are found in the Trophy Garden? The question was raised when looking at the [[Meowth]] page.

:Yes, it should mention on both pages. And the page is on {{p|Meowth}}, [[Meowth]] is a disambiguation page, so you'd better use the {{template|p}} template. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 18:22, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
::Ok but what about the PokéRadar in the Trophy Garden?[[User:Pterodactal|Pterodactal]] 10:03, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
:::What do you mean? '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 00:08, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
::::All of the pokemon that change daily in the Trophy Garden eg Happiny, Porygon and Mime Jr. require Pokeradar to find. Should this be mentioned in the template's location section? [[User:Pterodactal|Pterodactal]] 06:34, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
:::::Do they? If so, well, do like Snorunt. Put "[[Trophy Garden]] ([[Poké Radar]])" in the dparea thing. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 09:50, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

DONE THANKS GUYS [[User:Pterodactal|Pterodactal]] 11:26, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

==Tiers==
Might it be a good idea to create a category for each tier of Pokémon, as of Diamond/Pearl? It would be a bit easier for people to find out what tier their Pokémon is by just scrolling down, as opposed to navigating to the [[list of tiers]] page.
:Well, I dunno, it's really more arbitrary than others. For example, I consider Gorebyss to be pretty good, but I've never used Skarmory. And let's not forget that the list of tiers is in need of cleanup; it seems pretty damn opinionated (and that's not because it says that Typhlosion is "not recommended for use outside of its tier"). After all, any Pokémon can be good if you can figure out how to make it that way. Heck, it's my opinion that the list of tiers is the same sort of "we'll tell you how to play Pokémon and not let you have fun" thing as that recommended movesets thing that was here a while back. Also, don't forget to sign comments with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 02:23, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
::Whoops, sorry about that. Fair point I guess, but it might be handy for competitive players in particular kinds of battle, Never-Used for example. [[User:Blink|Blink]] 15:20, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
:::True, but eh. We have many of their level-up movesets, and most of their learnable TMs and HMs listed, as well as their base stats. Itdoes take a bit of investigating, still, to see whether the move in question on their list is Physical or Special, though, but as for how to change this? Beats me...
:::I do think, however, that that would be a better thing to do. Let people make up their own strategies, we'd possibly get more variety in teams. After all, I know that I figured out that Typhlosion wasn't as good with variety on my own, since it can barely learn any Special moves that aren't Fire, but it took me a bit of searching. I'm gonna do some experimenting in my sandbox about how to indicate the Physical/Special/Status moves in my sandbox. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 01:01, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
::::Are tiers just a fandom thing, or was there ever an official list published, even for RSE/FRLG etc?[[User:Blink|Blink]] 14:45, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
← 
Far as I know they're just a fandom thing. I've never seen an official Nintendo list that says, outright "CATERPIE SUCKS NEVER EVER EVER USE IT." even if '''''everyone''''' knows this to be true. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 19:25, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

== Learnsets ==

Okay, I know we'll all agree that other sites that indicate the type and category of a move on the Pokémon's page are helpful for quick lookers. Sure, we shouldn't add power, accuracy, PP, and all that, but at the very least the type and category of the move.

[[User:TTEchidna/Sandbox/Bulbasaur|So this is what I've come up with for Bulbasaur]]. It still indicates STAB, if a person's too lazy to scroll up to see what types the Pokémon is, and for Gen IV, it indicates Physical/Special in addition to type so that a person can pick out moves depending on the stats of the Pokémon as well as its types.

Thoughts? I certainly think that this could make the Pokémon pages much better than they are. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 09:45, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
:I think you could be on to something here. It even looks a bit better, aesthetically speaking, than the current table. [[User:Blink|Blink]] 19:24, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

:: Looks very nice. I feel sorry for you though, having to do that 492 more times. [[User:Zurqoxn|Zurqoxn]] 06:08, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
:::Yeah... unless I get some help... '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 06:32, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
::::That's very good. I like the layout better than the current one, since it seems easier to read and clearly shows whether a move is physical, special or status. -[[User:DarkMazer|DarkMazer]] 03:37, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

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DarkMazer:

:Not a good way to begin the page...--[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 00:42, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
Oh, well. (That was unexpected...) -[[User:DarkMazer|DarkMazer]] 03:16, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

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DarkMazer: /* Are you sure about this? */

Does this even belong? I mean, sure, it's a good idea to have it, but... eh, I dunno. Either way, in the current state, the article is pretty crappy. --'''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 03:01, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

== Are you sure about this? ==

As far as I can tell, by watching YouTube videos of Wi-Fi PBR battles, there are not this many tiers, and some Pokémon seem to be placed wrong. I've watched hundreds of battles, and not once have I seen an Aggron or Victreebel, both of which are listed as moderately used. On the other hand, I've seen lots of Pidgeot and Pachirisu, which are both in the never-used category according to this page. Who determined this list, and how did they determine it? [[User:Zurqoxn|Zurqoxn]] 01:51, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

* I believe it was based off some list posted at some website. I don't know which one. But at any rate, there are three things to consider. One, the rate at which things are used are not equal to how high something is on the tier list. Two, opinions of what goes into what tier vary. For instance, Smogon generally agrees Manaphy is uber tier. Third, technically, it is too early in the competitive battling scene to make a proper, full, tier list. In fact, for that reason alone, I believe this article should be deleted or at least changed to descriptions of each tier only until that time comes. [[User:System Error|System Error]] <nowiki></nowiki> 06:22, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

::The site was probably Smogon, if you're wondering. Tiers are based mostly off of base stats, types and move pools for each Pokémon. For example, Skarmory is placed in Over Used because of its ability to take a hit and stay standing, due to high Defense and the Steel/Flying types, and its varied move pool. Also, I've never really seen a moderately used tier before, but it makes sense, especially after the changes to game play Diamond and Pearl have made. As a final note, I have also noticed that tiers change rapidly, based on current trends, play styles, and new discoveries. To make the article more accurate and appropriate, we could add a section on controversies, noting such debates as whether Manaphy, Celebi or Tyranitar qualify as Uber or not, and which Pokémon seem to hover between Overused and Borderline. -[[User:DarkMazer|DarkMazer]] 00:26, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

* Also in the recent rush of Trick-Disable pokemon, pokemon such as Kecleon and Mr. Mime have gained a significant boost. I would say MU is fitting for these pokemon. And Sceptile could easily be BL since Worry Seed on Slaking was discovered. These two examples show how in the time between the creation of this list, and now, the metagame has already changed. Also from my personal standpoint, I have seen hundreds of Castforms being used efficiently
User: KarpiFloodcheck 11:55 26 August 2007

User:DarkMazer

2007-09-16T23:40:34Z

DarkMazer: update, overhaul

Welcome to my user page.

==Current Projects==
I will store incomplete projects on this page as the need arises.

==DarkMazer==
As far as Pokémon goes, I've been playing since Red and Blue were released. I own all of the main games, except a few, and some of the offshoot games. My favorite games are Pokémon Pearl Version and Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Blue Rescue Team. My friends and I consider me to be somewhat of a master of Pokèmon, at least regarding knowledge. If you want to know more about me in general, look me up in [[wp:User:DarkMazer|Wikipedia.]]

Current favorite Pokémon:

[[Image:Spr 3e 227.gif|Skarmory]]
[[Image:Spr 3e 065.gif|Alakazam]]

-[[User:DarkMazer|DarkMazer]]

Bulbapedia talk:Project Pokédex/Archive 3

2007-08-13T20:12:12Z

DarkMazer: /* Joining? */

==Movesets==
Just a thought, should we add movesets to each Pokémon page? Maybe it could be a subproject. Also, should would add the Serebii.net Pokédex to the infobox? Should Move Tutor moves be on each Pokémon? -coppro

To Move List, we're getting there. But that's not a critical project yet, we have bigger things to do.

To Serebii dex, no, we only link to our affiliates. Serebii is not one of them, nor is his Dex all that accurate from personal experience.

To Move Tutor, yep. It counts as a learnable move. [[User:Evkl|Evkl]] 00:37, 15 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Why don't we have Serebii as an affiliate? They've greatly improved their Dex recently, too. - hey-nahny-nahny-and-a-hey-ha-ha

If you knew about all the bad blood between myself (and by association, this site) and Joe (and by association, his site, Serebii.net), you wouldn't be asking that question. ^^; --[[User:Archaic|Archaic]] 07:18, 4 October 2005 (CDT)

I'm new to bulbapedia, very interested in helping out, and have a ton of time to kill coming up soon. I was thinking of starting to mass update Pokemon Movelists. I'm planning on effectively copying over the moveset list of Bulbasaur and correcting the fields.

I'd also like to add a section of "ways to acquire move" for moves other than leveling up such as breeding or TM/Tutor only. Is there a sample pokemon I can show my potential designs for this on? --- [[User:Bouldersnap|Bouldersnap]] 04:44, 12 December 2006 (EST)

:We'd be glad to have your help. Generally, we like to avoid having people experiment on main articles; it would be for the best if you could demonstrate your idea here, or in the [[Bulbapedia:Sandbox]]. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] ~[[User talk:Pie|♪]][[Special:Contributions/Pie|♫]] 22:02, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

I want to become a participant also [[User:Ivysaur|Ivysaur]] 18:07, 15 Januari 2007 (GMT)

== My mistake ==

Thanks for that!
About the move tutor, I didn't see it on the bulba page the first time, but I see it now. My mistake! [[User:Coppro|Coppro]] 00:42, 15 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I can help with card text, if anyone needs. Mostly the older sets.--BJ

==Pokémon Information==

The Pokémon pages would benefit from information as a species. I am unsure how would be best to go about this. It's no secret that the best place to get information on a Pokémon from would be the game Pokédexes, now we could do a few things:

*Have subheadings for each Pokédex entry from games.
*Have a single long paragraph with the text from all the Pokédexes mushed together.
*Have a single long paragraph, totally re-written but taking bits of information from Pokédex entries.

I personally would go for the last one. What do you lot think? - [[User:Ferret|Ferret]] 03:56, 3 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Why is no one replying to this to give their opinion? I believe individual species background is a very important part of Pokémon and what makes it special from other creature-training games. I did not want to go ahead and add things when it's not what is wanted or required. - [[User:Ferret|Ferret]] 03:20, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Having no clue what you mean by it, I suggest you make a sample set of edits and see how people respond to it. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]][[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]] 04:09, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

First one should be included anyways, maybe third as well. Definitely not the second. - [[User:Jshadias|Jshadias]] 04:18, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Zhen Lin: It should be obvious really, the Pokémon pages do not cover information about species themseleves yet, only statistical stuff and name origins, the first goal for the Pokédex Project is "'''Expand Pokémon pages to have at least a paragraph of information about a Pokémon, preferably background information on that Pokémon.'''" I'm trying to bring up some ideas to help achieve this goal. - [[User:Ferret|Ferret]] 04:41, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

== Movelists ==

''Add all Generation III movelists to both /GenIII pages and the main page of a Pokémon.''
:Why put the same information in two places, especially when it is just going to be moved when Generation IV is released? - [[User:Jshadias|Jshadias]] 04:04, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Ease of deletion--you don't need to move everything over with the advent of GenIV. [[User:Evkl|evkl]] 10:34, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

== The Infobox ==

Shouldn't Pokémon heights and weights from the game Pokédex be added to the InfoBox - [[User:MTC|MTC]]
:I think you're right... hoo, boy, it's going to be ''fun'' adding all those heights and weights, though. Especially since there's the English feet-inches-pounds versus (what I believe is originally used) the good ol' metric system. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] 23:26, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

==Locations==

Would you like me to add game locations to each Pokémon's page? Please tell me what you think of the table on the [[Pikachu (Pokémon)|Pikachu]] page. [[User:Fabu-Vinny|Fabu-Vinny]] 12:51, 22 May 2005 (UTC)

== Anime information and Manga information ==

These headings should be something like "In the anime" and "In manga", similar to the current "In the TCG" header. - [[User:Jshadias|Jshadias]] 07:34, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

While on the topic of Anime Information, I'd like to see someone else besides me adding Anime Information more often. Please?--[[User:Pokencyclopedia|Pokencyclopedia]] 00:30, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

==Pokédex Data and TCG Pages==

Already on it. Go check out my [[User:Doug_teh_H-Nut|user page]] and see what all I've added in. I'd appreciate it if someone could put in the data that I haven't.

I think that each card should have its own page. I just want to know, how should we go about it? What should we name the pages, say something like [[Beedrill #17 (TCG)]] for the Base One Beedrill? --[[User:Doug_teh_H-Nut|Doug teh H-Nut]]

I see that the Pokédex Data from Stadium 2 needs to be added, but I believe it's the same data as in Gold. Anyone with the game with them wanna check? --[[User:PikamasterADV|PikamasterADV]] 22:22, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Is there even Pokédex data in Colosseum and XD? I don't think there is (not 100% sure) but if not, it should be deleted from the Pokédex template. --[[User:Mudkiplover56|Mudkiplover56]] 23:36, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

===TCG Pokédex entries?===
Should they be just part of {{bp|Project TCGDex}}, or be included in the data here? '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 00:08, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

== As a Species? ==

What gives? If this project is meant to classify Pokemon as a species, then why doesn't it? There are stats, yes, but the Wikipedia page on Pikas doesn't list those facts, does it? Listen, I worked hard on a Pikachu entry for Wikipedia, as follows:

<nowiki>
==Biology== A Pikachu (plural also Pikachu) is a ground-dwelling mammal belonging to a subspecies of [[rodent]]s including itself, it's evolutions, [[Plusle]], [[Minun]], and possibly undiscovered others, although pikachu are by far the most well known. Pikachu have short, yellow fur with brown stripes on its back, black-tipped ears, along with an unusually shaped tail, resembling a lightning bolt. They are often found in forests, plains, and occasionally near electrical sources, on most continents throughout the world. It is also a popular pet, and relatively easy to maintain, with little exercise necessary for it's well being, although periodic electric discharge is extremely important. Pikachu are known to have acute senses of hearing, thanks to its large ears. Most domestic pikachu are very intelligent, understanding and interpreting human [[speech]] at levels far surpassing those of any pet [[dog]]. Pikachu can be harmful [[pests]], eating and sometimes destroying telephone poles, wires, and other electronic equipment. In communities found near wooded areas, it is not uncommon for a pikachu to sometimes show up under or near houses, presumably attracted by the electrical output generated by the dwellers' appliances.

===Diet=== Living in wooded areas, pikachu often are found foraging for berries. Instead of climbing trees, they use small electrical shocks to release the berries from the tree, roasting them at the same time. As pets, they can be fed a variety of processed food, available at many pet stores. Alternatively, pikachu are tolerant to most "human" food, and sometimes enjoy it more then the more nutritional food designed for their biology.

===Electrical Abilities=== Exclusive to the Pikachu's subspecies is the obvious ability to release electric discharges of varying intensity, at will, through glandular pouches residing in its cheeks. These glands allow it to store and release a unique form of chemical energy, which can be released in bolts of lightning or [[ball lightning]] to defend itself from attackers, to cook food, to be used in battle, at the command from it's trainer, or in self-defense in the wild. Pikachu are rarely known to purposefully attack others besides the aforementioned, but particularly aggressive pikachu have been recorded. Pikachu often travel in packs, and are rarely territorial. However, when threatened, a group can generate an intense electrical offensive, and the electro-magnetic forces exerted by the resulting field can even produce a short lived, localized thunderstorm. As pikachu build up energy in their electricity glands, it is often needed to discharge, as to not result in a short, or worse, which can lead to physical [[Paralysis ]], or in severe cases, death. Pikachu release the built-up energy through their tail, which acts as a grounding rod, to safely remove unneeded energy. A sure sign to tell if a location is inhabited by pikachu (or a member of its subspecies) is to look for patches of burnt grass, which is the result of the discharge. Through an inability to release a buildup of electricity, a pikachu may develop a rare condition, very similar to the human [[flu]]. This illness is most often caused by strong nearby electro-magnetic forces, which severely impact the electric glands. If a pikachu is introduced to a magnet, it will be attracted towards its cheeks, and display other common attributes of [[magnetism]].</nowiki>

Good, no? I'd be willing to write comprehensive facts on ''every'' pokemon, but first, I must ask, is this acceptable, or are you fine with figures and charts? A disgrace, I say! Pokemon as a species means treating them as real, living creatures!

Again, I would be fine with writing articles like this on ''all'' pokemon, even if I was the ''only'' one writing them. Hell, I think I'd prefer it that way. So, would everyone be fine with that? I'm gonna go ahead and add this to Pikachu's Page, ok?

[[User:Supermariorobot|Supermariorobot]] 04:15, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
:I'm fine with it, and think it's great. The more the better, not everything has to be hard mechanical game information. It's the fluff that makes the Pokemon universe go 'round anyway. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 04:20, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

::Nice. So, I guess I'm in charge of this? Or would I need to ralk to an Admin? [[User:Supermariorobot|Supermariorobot]] 04:21, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

:::Like it's said on Wikipedia: be bold. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 04:27, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

::::LET ALL KNOW THIS!!!! I, Supermariorobot, am in charge of writing Biological discription of Pokemon as a species! w007! [[User:Supermariorobot|Supermariorobot]] 04:32, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

::::Is there somewhere I should put this on the site, besides here? [[User:Supermariorobot|Supermariorobot]] 04:38, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

:Not the worst idea we've ever had, but take note of some of the edits I've made on the Pikachu article itself. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] 05:42, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

::Supermariobot, you have come up with an excellent idea. The articles for other well-known Pokémon like Bulbasaur will be easy to update. However, I wish you good luck in trying to find such comprehensive information for the newer, lesser-known Pokémon, such as Vespiquen or Pachirisu. And the legendaries will be even harder to produce information for. :) [[User:Pokéball|Pokéball]] 15:53, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

== Type effectiveness ==

All Pokémon pages have a section called, "Type effectiveness". Currently the [[Template:Type effectiveness|Template]] used for "Later versions" reflects "the average physical/special ratio". For [[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl|Diamond and Pearl]] it has already been revealed that whether an attack is physical or special will be determined individually for each attack instead of based on what attack type it is. This means that the physical/special ratio no longer applies to type effectiveness. There needs to be another section that does not reflect the physical/special ratio. I would like to know how we should go about doing this. [[User:Drapion|Drapion]] 00:33, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

:I was working on this but got confused. Can someone explain this? At first I thought that the bar meant how well an attack from other PKMN with that type would do, but it turns out that it's a measure of STAB as if this PKMN were using an attack of that type or what? [[User:Gambler|Gambler]] 06:30, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
::The type effectiveness is how effective a type of that element would be against the Pokémon. For example, against Onix, Water is x4 (400 on the graph), Ground is x2 (200 on the graph), Psychic is x1 (100 on the graph), Flying is x0.5 (50 on the graph), Poison is x0.25 (25 on the graph). But the system we have was designed for when the Defense and Special Defense also came into play for this. Even before the DP changes, the section was badly explained and the visuals were unuseful and caused page stretching problems (though this problem has been reduced in the new system, it still exists for screens with low resolutions). I think a better system needs to be designed and implemented. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] 06:44, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
:::Oh, I see. Let me give it a thing over the night and I'll try something in the Sanbox tomorrow. Thanks Pie! [[User:Gambler|Gambler]] 06:50, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
::::Idea! Now that was quick! How about replaceing it for a "Damage Ratio" table? it should have a column for every type and 2 rows, one for Physical and other for Special. Inside each cell goes the effect of that type of attack with that kind of interaction. Onix Ex.

{| border=1
| ||PKMN Def || Normal || Grass || Rock ||
|-
|Physical || 160 ||
|-
|Special || 45 ||
|}

== Style issues ==
Or Bulbapedia feng shui. Believe it or not, Bulbapedia was discussed in the #bulbagarden chat. Wow. Anyway, besides a general consensus that more useful information should be added than the Name origin information and the articles really need fleshing out in a lot of ways, some thoughts about the style of the Pokémon species articles came up, and since I have a backbone, I'm the one who's sharing what those thoughts were.
* Apparently, the Type effectiveness is not being well received. Others have told me it's ugly and not particularly informative. Why was it added? Does it need to be kept, or could it be removed, or replaced with a more stylish alternative?
* The Name origins are not being considered particularly factual, interesting, useful information either. These may be better moved down to the Other information section, perhaps even as two subsections under Trivia (since, despite the fact that it's unrelated to the name, speculation on design inspirations are usually included under Name origin).
* Appearances may fit better before the Game information, rather than after. In general, it will help the flow of articles if sections with tables are moved below sections with text.
The majority of these are not my own suggestions, though I understand the thought process behind each point and think that this major reorganizing is worth consideration, particularly since I've just started working to organize the articles anyway. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] 08:57, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

:Here's what I think should be done: The RBY Type Effectiveness section should be removed, because the information is only useful to a small number of people. If that's too extreme for some people, then a small section detailing the differences in RBY should be added as part of the current Type Effectiveness section. Secondly, the Type Effectiveness sections should not take into account the physical/special ratio because it won't apply in Diamond/Pearl, and because Pokémon with lower special defense have bars that extend far beyond the edge of the page. [[User:Drapion|Drapion]] 15:03, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
::That's certainly true. I mean, one only has to take a look at {{p|Rhyhorn}}'s type effectiveness section to see the problem with the current style. Perhaps we should only indicate x1/4, x1/2, x2, and x4 type effectivenesses, and then how more or less effective a physical attack is compared to a special attack - if anyone still can't figure out which attacks would be best for them to use, then clearly they need to start using a calculator more frequently. (Which, conveniently enough, will be part of the Pokétchi or whatever it's called.) --[[User:Pie|Pie]] 19:52, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

===Style issues take 2===
All right, the revised layout has been up on the project page for a while. Now, '''does anyone have any questions, comments, or concerns regarding this layout?''' If no one has any changes they'd like to see to this layout, I think it's about time we set to work organizing all the articles and adding in the appropriate sections. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] 23:52, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
:Last call for comments. Otherwise, reorganization will begin. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] 23:26, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

== Evo boxes ==

I think we should standardize the sprites that we put there, perhaps changing all of them to ###.png, since we know the National Dex numbers to them all now. Then, it'd be easier to do, or even to use the images on userpages for the teams, like I do. Plus, I've noticed we need to get images for all 493 of them now. I've set up a template, [[Template:sp]], which sets a sprite at (whatever is linked after the vertical pipe).png. For example, you could do <nowiki>{{</nowiki>sp|001<nowiki>}}</nowiki>, and you'd come up with the sprite for Bulbasaur, {{sp|001}}.

It'd work well, too, for Pokémon we haven't got numbers for yet, when Generation V comes around... All you'd need to do is input the name instead, then change the sprite to a number-based one when the National numbers were revealed.

Also, are we going to change all of the sprites that we have for RSE to DP ones now for all of the oldies as well as having DP sprites for the new guys? [[User:TTEchidna|Tom Temprotran]] 08:49, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

Personally, I don't think there's that much of a graphical difference between the GBA and DS sprites, but if anyone wants to take the time doing it - feel free. A lot of Pokemon are actually missing evo boxes and sprites, actually. That and level-up moves seem to be the things missing from the most pages. --[[User:Zeta|Zeta]] 08:52, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

I personally would like that entire archive revamped. Every single DS Pokemon sprite, both genders (where applicable, if not, then all the females mostly), all in PNG format. Right now, it's incomplete... I'd be glad to help if we undertake such a little image project. [[User:DanPMK|MK]] 10:34, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

:I think we should go for the DS sprites. There is a difference, and you can see it when you compare the sprites of the larger ones - the GBA sprites are 64x64, while the DS sprites are 80x80. The larger sprites means an improved quality. (Changing the evo-chart boxes might be a good idea, though, since they're constructed with the smaller 64x64 sprites in mind.)
:Also, standardization and templates are good. The less sloppy Bulbapedia is, the better. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] 18:09, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

I put up the Houndour and Houndoom sprites from pearl/ diamond if you want to see how it looks in the boxes. --[[User:Link3710|Link3710]] October 8 0:50

Now, the real issue: do we take the animated versions? Do we do the second or first frame? I noticed that for most of the sprites we take the second frame of the Emerald ones.

Also, we'll need to take a roll call of those still in need of the evoboxes, then those still in need of sprites, and some of the Shin'ō natives still don't have their National number, or Shin'ō number (if it's applicable) in their box.

...I also have to wonder, is it possible to introduce past sprites to the articles? Like, for Charizard's article, having all of the sprites so far, including animated ones for Crystal, Emerald, and D/P? That way, when a new version comes out, we can just move the previous sprites to that old sprite section. [[User:TTEchidna|Tom Temprotran]] 02:00, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
:We've considered having sprite sections before, I think, but never decided on the best way to do it. As for finding out who needs what, there's only one easy way to do it - go through each article one by one... --[[User:Pie|Pie]] 02:14, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

For the record, I fully support having a "Sprites and Other Artwork" section on every Pokemon's page near the bottom featuring a collection of Sugimori artwork from every gen they've been in, all the sprites, and line-art or screen-caps from the anime where applicable. --[[User:Zeta|Zeta]] 05:52, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

===Sprite suggestion===
I don't know WHY we used the second frame/Emerald's, as some of them look pretty bad intermediate sprites. What we should do is make a sprite archive, separate them into 4 subpages by Generation, and get every single sprite, the GBC versions for the old ones, and name them as follows:
*The first 2 letters could be the generation and version, the next 3 the number, then a 'b' if a back sprite, if we have those, and an 's' at the end if shiny Example:
**Japanese Red/Green would be '1g'
**Japanese Blue/English Red/Blue would be '1b'
**Yellow version's sprites would be '1y'
**Gold would be '2g', Silver '2s', Crystal's animations '2c'
***A Charmander from Japanese Red would be '1g004'
***A Bulbaaur from Gold would be '2g001'
***A Shiny Squirtle from Silver would be '2s007s'
***An Unown from Crystal in the form of B would be '2c201-B'
*For Gen III:
**Ruby and Sapphire's 'rs'
**FireRed and LeafGreen's 'fl'
**Emerald's animations: 'em'
***A Shiny Unown from Emerald in the from of a '?' (_ for the ?) would be 'em201-_s'
***An Attack Deoxys from FireRed would be 'fl386-A'
*And for Diamond and Pearl:
**First 2 letters would be 'dp', then the next 3 the number '###', then an 'm', 'f', or 'g' for the gender, a 'b' if a back, and an 's' if it's shiny.
***Male Venusaur: 'dp003m'
***Female Shiny Mr. Mime: 'dp122fs'

If this sounds too complicated, or just stupid, please comment XP. Note that I will help this project if it's decided we do it, I'm good at wiki-formatting, and can really help with the sprites. Oh, and by the way, the animated sprites are going to be ripped soon. Cheers. [[User:DanPMK|MK]] 07:51, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
:It is a complex code, but a comprehendable one, assuming we type up a guide for it and add it to some sub-page of the Project Pokédex page - even I had a bit of trouble following it as a list. ^^o Also, I think perhaps "sprite" or even just "spr" should be added to the front of the names, just in case someone looking over the filenames such as in the Recent Changes doesn't look over the list and just think "Bzuh?" Descriptive filenames are usually good. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] 18:57, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

What about all the pokemon that don't get new sprites in Fire Red/Leaf Green? Also Gold and Silver backs are the same so you only need to have one. --[[User:Link3710|Link3710]] 22:53, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

:I agree with 'spr', Pie. Link3710: The Gold and Silver sprites were indeed different, and we wouldn't add duplicates for the sprites that are the same in FireRed/LeafGreen. Only the first 151 and Teddiursa (for some reason) were changed from R/S/E. [[User:DanPMK|MK]] 23:59, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

:The fronts were different for Gold and silver sprites but not the backs just check it out if you have both. So is the code going to be sprgg###esb-x where g=game #=national dex number e=gender s=shiny b=back and x=anything else?

::Yes, and I believe Crystal used the same back sprites as well.
::*spr(gg)(###)[e][-x][b][s].png
::[[User:DanPMK|MK]] 16:19, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

:::so for gsc back sprites should we use gsc instead of 2g 2s and 2c? Anyhow if noone disagrees with this I already have bulbasaur through blastoise ready and named according to this.--[[User:Link3710|Link3710]] 16:46, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
::I realized all generations have the same back sprites so we might as well just use the generation number for back sprites. Anyhow if anyone has any suggestions please make them now.--[[User:Link3710|Link]] 20:16, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

:::We need underscores, as I just renamed the bulk of my sprites to this formula and they look better. How's this?
:::{| border=1
! Game/Gen
! Sprite
! Status
|-
|Red/Green (J)
|'''spr_1g_###'''
|[http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Category:Pok%C3%A9mon_Red_and_Green_sprites Complete]
|-
|Blue (J) & Red/Blue (E)
|'''spr_1b_###'''
|[http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Category:Pok%C3%A9mon_Red_and_Blue_sprites Complete]
|-
|Yellow
|'''spr_1y_###'''
|[http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Category:Pok%C3%A9mon_Yellow_sprites Complete]
|-
|Gen I back
|'''spr_b_g1_###'''
|[http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Category:Generation_I_back_sprites Complete]
|-
| colspan=3 | <hr>
|-
|Gold
|'''spr_2g_###[_s]'''
|?
|-
|Silver
|'''spr_2s_###[_s]'''
|?
|-
|Crystal (anim)
|'''spr_2c_###[_s]'''
|?
|-
|Gen II back
|'''spr_b_g2_###[_s]'''
|?
|-
| colspan=3 | <hr>
|-
|<s>Ruby/Sapphire</s>
|<s>'''spr_3r_###[_s]'''</s>
|<s>?</s>
|-
|Fire/Red (1-151 + 216)
|'''spr_3f_###[_s]'''
|?
|-
|Emerald (anim)
|'''spr_3e_###[_s]'''
|[http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Category:Pokémon_Emerald_sprites Missing 28]
|-
|Gen III back
|'''spr_b_g3_###[_s]'''
|[http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Category:Generation_3_back_sprites Missing 3]
|-
| colspan=3 | <hr>
|-
|Diamond/Pearl
|'''spr_4d_###[_g][_s]'''
|?
|-
|Gen IV back
|'''spr_b_g4_###[_g][_s]'''
|?
|-
| colspan=3 | <hr>
|-
| colspan=3 | [_g] is gender for 4th gen sprites [_s] is shiny for 2nd+ gen sprites
|-
| colspan=3 | <hr>
|-
| colspan=3 | -a at the end (but before _s) for Unown's letter <s>-# at the end (but before _s) for Spinda's variant</s> Scrath that, too many variants -[weather] (sun/rain/hail) at the end (but before _s) for Castform's forms -[form] at the end (but before _s) for Deoxys's form -[type] at the end (but before _s) for Minomutchi/madam's 2nd type -[region] at the end (but before _s) for Karanakushi/Toritodon's region -[type] at the end (but before _s) for Arseus's type
|} [[User:DanPMK|MK]] 07:49, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Now here's the thing: do we animate the sprites as they are in the game, or do we just use the second frame? It'd be weird just to have them flash between the two frames, since most of them do something else as well... Should we just use the second frame?

I do like the system for naming the images, though. And they are all going to be .png, right? Except for the animated ones, if we do that. Would we have to make a .swf if we were to animate the Emerald ones? COULD we imbed a .swf into the page? I know the Crystal ones don't do much besides frame changes, but Emerald ones rotate, bounce... all sorts of things.

Also, for Unown's letter, for ? and !, can we use those in the filename? Maybe for ? it could be qm and ! it can be em, so it doesn't interfere with the letters. Then if there's any more in future generations, they can be at things like pe for a period, co for a comma... and so on.

Of course, to make things easier for the sprite boxes, should we keep them as ###.png, for the latest-generation sprites, and have those as well be at the other thing for when they're replaced with whatever comes next? I think it'd make things a lot easier, and we'd not have to change the evo boxes every generation. Because, really, when Gen V comes along, we'll have 493 to change, and then at least 100 more to add. [[User:TTEchidna|Tom Temprotran]] 19:03, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

I THINK we could do the animations as gif, and that could work. Also the full Crystal sprites have more than two frames, Venasaur has 27 frames if captured fully. About the evo boxes they take about two seconds if all we have to change is the number so we don't neccessarily need double images. --[[User:Link3710|Link]] 19:39, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

:Still images would be PNG, animated images would be GIF. For Unown's ! form, '!' can be used in a file name, but ? cannot, so 'em' is fine. For Gen V, they might end up using the same sprites. If so, we'll just add the new ones. As for Emerald's animations, they have been ripped in .gif format perfectly. Example: [[Image:Spr_3e_001.gif]] [[User:DanPMK|MK]] 21:07, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

::For backs do we even need the _b since the generation part is different.--[[User:Link3710|Link]] 19:20, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
:::You're right, we should use a different thing for backs, like '''spr_b_g#_###[_s]'''. That way, all the backs are near eachother on the list. Oh, and with the emerald animations, the Ruby/Sapphire sprites are unecessary. [[User:DanPMK|MK]] 10:26, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
::Even if its just '''spr_g#_###[_s]''' they'll be together because the others will be #g instead of g#. Where should we put the sprite section under evolution?--[[User:Link3710|Link]] 21:17, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
:::Just wanna make sure you can tell it's a back sprite from it's name. I started the Emerald ones, got many up so far [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Category:Pok%C3%A9mon_Emerald_sprites here]. [[User:DanPMK|MK]] 02:47, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
::Less confusing the better though. I'll do green sprites. --[[User:Link3710|Link]] 19:50, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
:::Emerald sprites done. Gonna work on the FireRed/LeafGreen ones soon. I'll volunteer for all the Gen III and Gen IV animated ones as well. [[User:DanPMK|MK]] 10:16, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
::::Please do NOT put the animated Emerald sprites in the evolution boxes. The animation in that part looks tacky, and the DP sprites are preferred anyway. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] 13:26, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::I only put them there temporarily waiting for the D/P sprites to be uploaded (since we obviously don't don't have Emerald sprites for the D/P's) Also finished the Gen 3 back sprites. [[User:DanPMK|MK]] 15:17, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::Ah, okay. I'd avoid doing things like that in the future, however - animated sprites have their uses, but they're not particularly good placeholders. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] 16:51, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Yup, I wasn't sure if they were going to upload the D/P sprites anyway...the ones now don't follow the pattern above, but we can simply use ###.png for the static images of the most recent generation. Also: Does anyone have the animated Emerald sprites for Unown and Castform's alts? As well as the back sprites for Deoxys in Emerald, FireRed, and LeafGreen? Those are the only ones missing for the 3rd gen so far... [[User:DanPMK|MK]] 19:48, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Update: Yellow sprites done. Check the chart above for updates. [[User:DanPMK|MK]] 15:37, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Red/Green done [[User:DanPMK|MK]] 19:36, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::::All generation I sprites done (Blue and back since last time). I think by now I know all the first 151 numbers and positions by heart. My fingers hurt. [[User:DanPMK|MK]] 23:08, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::::As I've seen them needed, I've put the D/P sprites at ###.png, for easier access in Pokédex pages and such. Any luck finding the alternate versions of the Unowns? And how about the mini, Party-screen sprites of them all? Should they be here, too? They don't seem to have ANY difference between gen III and IV, so we have that going for us if we do them, at least... [[User:TTEchidna|Tom Temprotran]] 12:38, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::You guys are all lucky. I can't even see the sprites on my computer screen. Wherever they are supposed to be on the page, nothing is there. Does anyone know why? I know it's not my browser, because I can see images perfectly on Wikipedia, and the Bulbapedia logo even shows up. Can someone help me? [[User:Pokéball|Pokéball]] 15:59, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

== Categories ==

Recently, I've been categorizing some Pokémon's pages like nuts, organizing them by how they evolve, and stuff like that. What does everytone think of it? I know it's kinda overloaded on Eevee's and some others' pages, like Poliwhirl, but can't we remedy that somehow?

Also, should we categorize Pokémon that don't evolve at all, legendaries, and Pokémon that evolve only by level? Or just leave off the level-evolvers, since that's pretty much everyone? Also, should the Pokémon be categorized under Pokémon that don't evolve, and bring all of the final forms in, or under Pokémon that are not part of an evolution chain, to prevent that? [[User:TTEchidna|Tom Temprotran]] 02:15, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

== Wobbuffet and Wynaut: Other appearances ==

[http://youtube.com/watch?v=iizKu2J1G7w See here] for Mystery Dungeon appearance. It should be noted when you watch this that Wobbuffet's Japanese name means something like "That's the way it is" in Japanese, and the joke was lost in translation, but Wynaut is so cute! --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 16:19, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

==Joining?==
How do I join this project? I would like to. [[User:Carnivine|Carnivine]]

I would also like to join. I would like to help in any way possible. [[User:Djensen1992|Djensen1992]]

I also am interested in joining the project.--[[User:Durgle|Durgle]] 21:07, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

I, also, would very much like to join this project. - [[User:C.Olimar788|C.Olimar788]] 00:34, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Funny how people ask if they could join in this section, but they are never answered. I would also like to help. [[User:Pokéball|Pokéball]] 16:35, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

I would like to join the project. -[[User:DarkMazer|DarkMazer]] 20:12, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

==Screenshots from the anime==
I've noticed in a few articles, there are pictures of the Pokémon under the '''In the anime''' heading. Should there be screenshots of all Pokémon in the anime? I'd be more than happy to help with that if it's needed. --[[User:PAK Man|PAK Man]] 16:00, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

== Basic Stats Radar Graph ==

Yeah, I'm kinda posting this topic to vent some of my ideas on how to display information. In this one I'll focus on displaying the basic stats. The current system is the values, along with the horizontal bars. I personally thought of replacing it with a slightly more graphic way of displaying it: namely using radar-graphs. I've prepared some samples: [http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v254/Democalyps/Misc/Bulbasaur.png Bulbasaur], [http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v254/Democalyps/Misc/Ivysaur.png Ivysaur], [http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v254/Democalyps/Misc/Venusaur.png Venusaur], [http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v254/Democalyps/Misc/Charizard.png Charizard] and [http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v254/Democalyps/Misc/Weedle.png Weedle]

I personally am willing to create all the needed graphs, it's quite a quick process so I can get them all done on reasonably short term. Next to these would be a small table stating the exact values. The shapes of these, along with the size give a more visual indication of what kind of pokemon it is, status-wise. I've sorted them so, that the top half is defence/health, the bottom is speed and offensive power, left is special and the right is physical. Along with these graphs I suggest adding a bar, similar to those currently displayed on the pages, displaying the total of basic stats (i.e. all values added up); again along with the numeric value. The latter gives a good indication of the overall strength of that specific pokemon. I'm still working on how to properly format that one though; the maximum total can run up to 720 (Arceus); a width or height of 720px is a bit too much. ^^;

As for the base-stats of the Red, Blue and Yellow games (where Sp.Atk and Sp. Def haven't been seperated yet); since it's only 151 extra graphs, I wouldn't mind creating and adding a secondary graph for those pokemon.

As for the format of the images; The ones I made are just proto-types, but I reckoned this size and colour would make a nice, neat and neutral-looking graph. This is, however, open to discussion. =3

On a final, slightly unrelated note, I personally feel the type advantage thing could just as well be taken away. Since the special/physical deviations of the types have been taken out, the current information is pretty much stating the obvious. A quick glance at a type-chart can give you the exact same information. Clearing them out will remove the in my humble opinion rather annoying page-stretching.

So... Yeah ^^ I'd like to become a part of this Pokedex project and would like to hear how you all feel about this and whether or not you want me to start implementing the graphs.

--[[User:Democalypse|Democalypse]] 23:11, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

...I dunno, we already have them in bar form... And just looking at the type chart might cause someone to miss a double weakness or a double resistance, or a neutralization effect. --'''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 00:09, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, but the bars don't really show how the values relate to eachother on the whole. Plus, the bars tend to take up a lot of space and stretch the page (which really damages the neatness of the page as a whole). The solution to the latter you addressed is simple: creating a third type chart along with the two we already have, in which we'll also include all presently existing dual-types. Basically what we have now is just stating the obvious, taking up space and stretching the page. X__x --[[User:Democalypse|Democalypse]] 22:56, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

:Please keep the weaknesses/resistances on the individual Pokémon's pages. When deciding what to use against a particular opposing Pokémon, I go to that Pokémon's page and check the type effectiveness there. That's a lot easier than checking a type chart, and maybe forgetting 1 of the Pokémon's 2 types. [[User:Zurqoxn|Zurqoxn]] 23:05, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

== Game data structure ==

Since we have headings for the other formats, I suggest that the sections of game data we have go under a broad "games" heading. I'm particularly proposing that "NPC appearances" is a subheading of this and not locations, since an appearance isn't the same as a location.

See this version of Bulbasaur's page: [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Bulbasaur_%28Pok%C3%A9mon%29&oldid=124619] --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 15:10, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
:Sounds reasonable to me. Go right ahead. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] ~[[User talk:Pie|♪]][[Special:Contributions/Pie|♫]] 16:08, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

== Wild levels ==

I got this request on my talk page:
:''Can you make a new template for Pokédex. It involves the use of telling users levels of which Pokémon are caught at e.g. Dialga. --[[User:Pokemongeniusscientist|Zywxn]]''
I'm bringing it up here because, while it's an interesting idea, I'm not sure how it would work. It would certainly be easy to add to the Pokédex template for Dialga but some of the common wild Pokémon have levels all over the place. And even in the case of the legendaries, levels aren't consistent. For example, Ho-Oh is level 40 in Gold and level 70 in Silver.

More importantly, is this a worthwhile venture? --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 23:41, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
:I could see it as a possible extra column on the Game locations table. It can already be found on location articles, which the tables link to, but I suppose there's no good reason to keep it off the species articles. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] ~[[User talk:Pie|♪]][[Special:Contributions/Pie|♫]] 00:58, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

== Hoenn numbers? ==

I know they're in the data, but honestly, should we have the Hoenn Dex numbers for Pokémon like Bulbasaur, who aren't in the Hoenn Dex proper? After all, we don't have Bulbasaur's Sinnoh Dex number as 152... --'''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 23:57, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

:The Sinnoh Dex numbers for Bulbasaur etc. ''do not exist'', whereas the Hoenn Dex numbers do. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]][[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]] 06:00, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

::I know, but still. Bulbasaur may be 203 technically, but you can't see them, except when you cheat to catch them in-game. --'''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 06:03, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

== About external links and fan shrines... ==

I couldn't help but notice that within the Project Pokedex section, it is mentioned that Pokemon can receive not only wikipedia links but fan shrine links, too.

Now, before I jumped ahead of myself, I checked a few of the obviously more popular Pokemon, like Eevee or Pikachu. You can't go wrong with that. What I noticed is that the only fan stuffs listed is fanlistings, though. While that's something, it is what it is... a list. Granted, Poke-centric (that is, non human) shrines seem to be hard to come by in the 'States for some reason.

So, my question is, what would I have to do to get a fan shrine listed? Does there have to meet certain requirements? Is it necessary that it's a fanlisting? The site is in English, in case you're wondering. I know the ratio of Japanese artsy Poke-centric sites to US ones is extremely skewed in their favor, so I can see where that could be a concern, if a concern at all.
--[[User:Nidorino|Nidorino]] 16:56, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
:I would say in this matter, it's more quality that matters than notability. If you have a site that is good enough to be of interest to someone looking for some sort of information on the Pokémon - go ahead and add it. But if it's something that's low-quality and not useful, expect to see the link removed shortly after.
:Also, I would rule that foreign language sites can also be included - but with stricter inclusion standards, at the bottom of the external links list, and with its language included in parentheses so people don't click expecting an English site and get something in a different language. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] ~[[User talk:Pie|♪]][[Special:Contributions/Pie|♫]] 18:03, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

::Well, it's actually more interesting and for leisure than it is informational. I sorta made it both because I thought the Nidoran line was severely underappreciated and I got a little tired of the thousands of informational Pokemon sites but no fun multimedia ones. I suppose for what it's worth, it'll probably be really nice for any Pokemon fan since there's lots to see and do (for a Nido centric site, it's actually doing really well), I put a ''lot'' of work into it as well.

::The quality lies in the content, I go all out on what talents I have all for the sake of Nido Pokemon. There's also people who share the same idea, so a lot of contributions have come from people all over, it's probably ''one of'' the biggest Nido fan gatherings, which truthfully isn't a hard goal to aspire for considering the Pokemon in question. My main reasoning behind it, though, is that I just think that Nido fans shouldn't be left out of the picture, considering I know how hard it is to find anything interesting about them at all.

::So I guess what it comes down to is what one wants. It someone's trying to read hard facts, well, they could do that anywhere. But if someone's looking for something fun and different, that's the goal I want to accomplish.

::Would that still be okay?--[[User:Nidorino|Nidorino]] 18:17, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

== Biology ==

There's been a bit of controversy over the content in the biology section of {{p|Typhlosion}}'s article. It may be an idea to keep an eye over the stuff that goes in that section. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 23:13, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
:... how in the world did we miss that? D: --[[User:Pie|Pie]] ~[[User talk:Pie|♪]][[Special:Contributions/Pie|♫]] 00:34, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

==Diamond and Pearl Pokéradar==
In relation to the Pokeradar in Daimond and Pearl. Should it be mentioned in the Rarity section like [[Nidoran♀ (Pokémon)]] or in the Location section like [[Venonat (Pokémon)]]. Just asking so that there can be some consistancy in the articles. [[User:Pterodactal|Pterodactal]] 08:44, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
:Do we need to point out that the Pokéradar Pokémon are rare? If not, we have a free space to fit it in:
{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #{{poison color}};"
! Game
! [[Rarity]]
! Location
|-
| [[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl]] || [[Pokéradar]] || [[Route 201]]
|}
:Otherwise, I prefer how Venonat looks. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 17:05, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
:They aren't always rare. And I've been adding in an availability template to Pokémon pages:

{{Availability|
type=ice |
gen=3 |
rsrarity=Few |
rsarea=[[Shoal Cave]] |
erarity=Few |
earea=[[Shoal Cave]] |
dprarity=Rare |
dparea=[[Route]]s {{rtn|216}} and {{rtn|217}}, [[Acuity Lakefront]] ([[Poké Radar]]) |
}}

That's what {{p|Snorunt}} has. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 01:07, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

::I'm missing how that template affects the current issue. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 21:50, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the help. So what about those in the Trophy Garden but need the pokéradar to be found. Should this be mentioned in the location section as well as that they are found in the Trophy Garden? The question was raised when looking at the [[Meowth]] page.

:Yes, it should mention on both pages. And the page is on {{p|Meowth}}, [[Meowth]] is a disambiguation page, so you'd better use the {{template|p}} template. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 18:22, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
::Ok but what about the PokéRadar in the Trophy Garden?[[User:Pterodactal|Pterodactal]] 10:03, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
:::What do you mean? '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 00:08, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Talk:Minun (Pokémon)

2007-08-13T20:10:22Z

DarkMazer: /* Attack Guide? */

==Attack Guide?==
Could sombody get an attack guide like [[Kadabra]] has? For the TMs and Level Ups? I'd apreciate it alot. Thanks.--[[User:ObsessedMinunFan|ObsessedMinunFan]] 21:45, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

:Edit: I got 4 of the moves already. I know it takes a while to make somthing like this but if somone is makign one please let me know at least.

:*Level 13: Quick Attack
:*Level 18: Spark
:*Level 22: Sand Attack
:*Level 28: Charm

:These are all from Generation 3.--[[User:ObsessedMinunFan|ObsessedMinunFan]] 02:18, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

::[[User:Zhen Lin|Zhen Lin]] is currently developing a comprehensive Pokédex for Bulbapedia. --[[User:Argy|Argy]] 04:43, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

I submitted what I believe to be the complete level-up moveset for Minun, but I may have missed a move or two, so if you find anything wrong, edit it.

I also submitted the tutor move data, but I don't think anything is wrong with it.

I have all of the Generation III TM/HM and breeding data, but not the corresponding Generation IV data. Here it is:

By TM/HM
{|
!TM
!Move
|-
|TM06 || Toxic
|-
|TM10 || Hidden Power
|-
|TM16 || Light Screen
|-
|TM17 || Protect
|-
|TM18 || Rain Dance
|-
|TM21 || Frustration
|-
|TM23 || Iron Tail
|-
|TM24 || Thunderbolt
|-
|TM25 || Thunder
|-
|TM27 || Return
|-
|TM32 || Double Team
|-
|TM34 || Shock Wave
|-
|TM42 || Facade
|-
|TM43 || Secret Power
|-
|TM44 || Rest
|-
|TM45 || Attract
|-
|HM5 || Flash
|}

By Breeding

Wish

Substitute

Feel free to add this if you have the Generation IV data.

Hope this helps.

-[[User:DarkMazer|DarkMazer]] 20:10, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Minun (Pokémon)

2007-08-13T20:08:38Z

DarkMazer: /* By tutoring */

{{PokémonPrevNext | prev=Plusle | next=Volbeat }}
{{PokémonInfobox|
name=Minun |
jname=マイナン |
tmname=Minun |
image=312Minun.png |
caption=Artwork from R/S/E |
ndex=312 |
jdex=— |
hdex=081 |
fdex=068 |
typen=1 |
type1=Electric |
type2= |
species=Cheering |
height-ftin=1′04″ |
height-m=0.4 |
weight-lbs=9.3 |
weight-kg=4.2 |
abilityn=1 |
ability1=Minus |
ability2= |
egggroupn=1 |
egggroup1=Fairy |
egggroup2= |
hatchsteps=5,120 |
effortyield=1 Spd |
expyield=120 |
lv100exp=1,000,000 |
gender=both |
female=50 |
male=50 |
color=Yellow |
catchrate=200 |
pokefordex=minun |
generation=3 |
footnotes=}}
'''Minun''' ([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese]]: マイナン ''Minun'') is an {{t|Electric}}-type Pokémon.

=Biology=
==Physiology==
===Gender differences===
None.

===Special abilities===
==Behavior==
==Habitat==
==Diet==
''Main article: [[Pokémon food]]''

=In the anime=
Minun first appeared alongside {{p|Plusle}} in ''[[AG038|A Different Kind of Misty]]''. Both of the Cheering Pokémon were owned by a kid named Batcher, who was responsible for protecting a lighthouse. The same Plusle-Minun duo appeared again in ''[[AG052|Cheer Pressure]]'', in which Batcher were training them to be cheerleaders.

Elijah used Plusle and Minun in a movie for ''[[AG086|Lights, Camerupt, Action]]''. The plot of the movie was that Plusle and Minun were setting out to rescue Princess {{p|Kirlia}} from an evil {{p|Exploud}}.

Plusle and Minun also appear in ''[[Destiny Deoxys]]''. This pair of Cheering Pokémon loved to cause mischeif in [[LaRousse City]].

=In the manga=
=In the TCG=

=Game data=
==NPC appearances==
* [[Pokémon Pinball: Ruby & Sapphire]]: Minun combines with {{p|Plusle}} to produce an electric current blocking the entrance to the Poké Mart on the [[Sapphire Field]].
* [[Pokémon Ranger]]: Minun is the partner of [[Lunick]]. After the end credits, it also feels a bond with [[Solana]].

==Pokédex entries==
{{Dex
|type=electric
|gen=3
|rubydex=Minun is more concerned about cheering on its partners than its own safety. It shorts out the electricity in its body to create brilliant showers of {{M|spark}}s to cheer on its teammates.
|sapphiredex=Minun loves to cheer on its partner in battle. It gives off {{M|spark}}s from its body while it is doing so. If its partner is in trouble, this Pokémon gives off increasing amounts of sparks.
|emeralddex=At a meeting of Pokémon academics, it was announced that simultaneous exposure to electricity from a {{p|Plusle}} and Minun will promote circulation and boost vitality.
|firereddex=Its dislike of water makes it take shelter under the eaves of houses in rain. It uses pom-poms made of sparks for cheering.
|leafgreendex=Its dislike of water makes it take shelter under the eaves of houses in rain. It uses pom-poms made of sparks for cheering.
|diamonddex=It cheers on its friends. If its friends are losing, its body lets off more and more sparks.
|pearldex=It cheers on its friends. If its friends are losing, its body lets off more and more sparks.
|}}

==Game locations==
===In side games===

{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #{{electric color}};"
! Game
! Location
|-
| [[Pokémon Pinball: Ruby & Sapphire]]
| Hatch from egg
|-
| [[Pokémon Trozei!]]
| Huge Storage 4 Endless Level 23 Trozei Battle Mr. Who's Den
|-
| [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon]]
| [[Thunderwave Cave]] (4F-5F) [[Lightning Field]] (7F-19F) [[Joyous Tower]] (5F-8F)
|-
| [[Pokémon Ranger]]
| [[Starter Pokémon]]
|}

Minun will not appear in Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Red Rescue Team until a rescue mission involving it has been completed, using the following Wonder Mail code:
:4 ? M 9 F Q X ? 2 8 N 7
:H R ? H P 5 ? 0 ! 4 ? W
:Objective: Escort Minun to Plusle on floor 7 of [[Mt. Blaze]].

==Base stats==
{{BaseStats|
HP=60 |
Attack=40 |
Defense=50 |
SpAtk=75 |
SpDef=85 |
Speed=95 }}

==Type effectiveness==
{{DP Type effectiveness|
Normal= 100 |
Fighting=100 |
Flying= 50 |
Poison= 100 |
Ground= 200 |
Rock= 100 |
Bug= 100 |
Ghost= 100 |
Steel= 50 |

Fire= 100 |
Water= 100 |
Grass= 100 |
Electric=50 |
Psychic= 100 |
Ice= 100 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 100 }}

==Learnset==
{{learnset intro|Minun}}
===By leveling up===
{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #{{electric color}};"
! Game
![[Generation III]]
![[Generation IV]]
|-
| Start || {{M|Growl}} || {{M|Growl}}
|-
| 3 || || {{M|Thunder Wave}}
|-
| 4 || {{M|Thunder Wave}} ||
|-
| 7 || || {{M|Quick Attack}}
|-
| 10 || {{M|Quick Attack}} || {{M|Helping Hand}}
|-
| 13 || {{M|Helping Hand}} ||
|-
| 15 || || '''{{M|Spark}}'''
|-
| 17 || || {{M|Encore}}
|-
| 19 || '''{{M|Spark}}''' ||
|-
| 21 || || {{M|Charm}}
|-
| 22 || {{M|Encore}} ||
|-
| 24 || || {{M|Copycat}}
|-
| 28 || {{M|Charm}} ||
|-
| 29 || || {{M|Swift}}
|-
| 31 || {{M|Charge}} ||
|-
| 35 || || {{M|Charge}}
|-
| 37 || '''{{M|Thunder}}''' ||
|-
| 38 || || '''{{M|Thunder}}'''
|-
| 40 || {{M|Baton Pass}} ||
|-
| 42 || || {{M|Baton Pass}}
|-
| 44 || || {{M|Agility}}
|-
| 47 || {{M|Agility}} ||
|-
| 48 || || {{M|Trump Card}}
|-
| 51 || || {{M|Nasty Plot}}
|}

===By TM/HM===
===By breeding===
===By tutoring===
In Pokémon FireRed, Pokémon LeafGreen, and Pokémon Emerald:
* {{m|Body Slam}}
* {{m|Counter}}
* {{m|Double-Edge}}
* {{m|Mega Kick}}
* {{m|Mega Punch}}
* {{m|Metronome}}
* {{m|Mimic}}
* {{m|Seismic Toss}}
* {{m|Substitute}}
* {{m|Thunder Wave}}
In Pokémon Emerald Only:
* {{m|Defense Curl}}
* {{m|DynamicPunch}}
* {{m|Endure}}
* {{m|Mud-Slap}}
* {{m|Rollout}}
* {{m|Sleep Talk}}
* {{m|Snore}}
* {{m|Swagger}}
* {{m|Swift}}
* {{m|ThunderPunch}}

===Special moves===

==Side game data==

{{Side game|
type=electric |
Trozei=yes |
rarity=Common |
Dungeon=yes |
body=1 |
rate=35% |
area=Thunder Meadow |
P1= I work best with Plusle! |
P2= What is this? Only half my HP is left! |
P3= No more... I can't even set off sparks... |
PL= Leveled up! I did it, Plusle! |
Partner=no |
Ranger=yes |
typeG= Electric |
Assist=Discharge |
field= None |
browser= Minun stuns targets with a powerful electric shock to assist captures. |
}}

==Evolution==
{| border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="margin: auto;"
|-
| rowspan="2" |
{{EvoChart Box|
text=Basic |
image=312.png |
name=Minun }}
|}

=Trivia=
==Origin==
It appears to be based on a [[wp:mouse|mouse]] or [[wp:rabbit|rabbit]].

===Name origin===
Minun's name is based on ''minus'', referring to something with a negative electrical charge.

==In other languages==
*[[List of German Pokémon names|German]]: Minun
*[[List of French Pokémon names|French]]: Negapi - Comes from ''negative'' and possibly ''pikapika'', the Japanese onomatopoeia for sparkling.
*[[List of Korean Pokémon names|Korean]]: 마이농 ''Mainong''

=External links=
*[[wp:Minun|Article on Wikipedia]]

{{Starter Pokémon}}

{{PokémonPrevNext | prev=Plusle | next=Volbeat }}
{{Project Pokédex notice}}
[[de:Minun]]
[[ja:マイナン]]
[[Category:Pokémon that are not part of an evolutionary line]]

Minun (Pokémon)

2007-08-13T19:57:29Z

DarkMazer: /* Learnset */

{{PokémonPrevNext | prev=Plusle | next=Volbeat }}
{{PokémonInfobox|
name=Minun |
jname=マイナン |
tmname=Minun |
image=312Minun.png |
caption=Artwork from R/S/E |
ndex=312 |
jdex=— |
hdex=081 |
fdex=068 |
typen=1 |
type1=Electric |
type2= |
species=Cheering |
height-ftin=1′04″ |
height-m=0.4 |
weight-lbs=9.3 |
weight-kg=4.2 |
abilityn=1 |
ability1=Minus |
ability2= |
egggroupn=1 |
egggroup1=Fairy |
egggroup2= |
hatchsteps=5,120 |
effortyield=1 Spd |
expyield=120 |
lv100exp=1,000,000 |
gender=both |
female=50 |
male=50 |
color=Yellow |
catchrate=200 |
pokefordex=minun |
generation=3 |
footnotes=}}
'''Minun''' ([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese]]: マイナン ''Minun'') is an {{t|Electric}}-type Pokémon.

=Biology=
==Physiology==
===Gender differences===
None.

===Special abilities===
==Behavior==
==Habitat==
==Diet==
''Main article: [[Pokémon food]]''

=In the anime=
Minun first appeared alongside {{p|Plusle}} in ''[[AG038|A Different Kind of Misty]]''. Both of the Cheering Pokémon were owned by a kid named Batcher, who was responsible for protecting a lighthouse. The same Plusle-Minun duo appeared again in ''[[AG052|Cheer Pressure]]'', in which Batcher were training them to be cheerleaders.

Elijah used Plusle and Minun in a movie for ''[[AG086|Lights, Camerupt, Action]]''. The plot of the movie was that Plusle and Minun were setting out to rescue Princess {{p|Kirlia}} from an evil {{p|Exploud}}.

Plusle and Minun also appear in ''[[Destiny Deoxys]]''. This pair of Cheering Pokémon loved to cause mischeif in [[LaRousse City]].

=In the manga=
=In the TCG=

=Game data=
==NPC appearances==
* [[Pokémon Pinball: Ruby & Sapphire]]: Minun combines with {{p|Plusle}} to produce an electric current blocking the entrance to the Poké Mart on the [[Sapphire Field]].
* [[Pokémon Ranger]]: Minun is the partner of [[Lunick]]. After the end credits, it also feels a bond with [[Solana]].

==Pokédex entries==
{{Dex
|type=electric
|gen=3
|rubydex=Minun is more concerned about cheering on its partners than its own safety. It shorts out the electricity in its body to create brilliant showers of {{M|spark}}s to cheer on its teammates.
|sapphiredex=Minun loves to cheer on its partner in battle. It gives off {{M|spark}}s from its body while it is doing so. If its partner is in trouble, this Pokémon gives off increasing amounts of sparks.
|emeralddex=At a meeting of Pokémon academics, it was announced that simultaneous exposure to electricity from a {{p|Plusle}} and Minun will promote circulation and boost vitality.
|firereddex=Its dislike of water makes it take shelter under the eaves of houses in rain. It uses pom-poms made of sparks for cheering.
|leafgreendex=Its dislike of water makes it take shelter under the eaves of houses in rain. It uses pom-poms made of sparks for cheering.
|diamonddex=It cheers on its friends. If its friends are losing, its body lets off more and more sparks.
|pearldex=It cheers on its friends. If its friends are losing, its body lets off more and more sparks.
|}}

==Game locations==
===In side games===

{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #{{electric color}};"
! Game
! Location
|-
| [[Pokémon Pinball: Ruby & Sapphire]]
| Hatch from egg
|-
| [[Pokémon Trozei!]]
| Huge Storage 4 Endless Level 23 Trozei Battle Mr. Who's Den
|-
| [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon]]
| [[Thunderwave Cave]] (4F-5F) [[Lightning Field]] (7F-19F) [[Joyous Tower]] (5F-8F)
|-
| [[Pokémon Ranger]]
| [[Starter Pokémon]]
|}

Minun will not appear in Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Red Rescue Team until a rescue mission involving it has been completed, using the following Wonder Mail code:
:4 ? M 9 F Q X ? 2 8 N 7
:H R ? H P 5 ? 0 ! 4 ? W
:Objective: Escort Minun to Plusle on floor 7 of [[Mt. Blaze]].

==Base stats==
{{BaseStats|
HP=60 |
Attack=40 |
Defense=50 |
SpAtk=75 |
SpDef=85 |
Speed=95 }}

==Type effectiveness==
{{DP Type effectiveness|
Normal= 100 |
Fighting=100 |
Flying= 50 |
Poison= 100 |
Ground= 200 |
Rock= 100 |
Bug= 100 |
Ghost= 100 |
Steel= 50 |

Fire= 100 |
Water= 100 |
Grass= 100 |
Electric=50 |
Psychic= 100 |
Ice= 100 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 100 }}

==Learnset==
{{learnset intro|Minun}}
===By leveling up===
{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #{{electric color}};"
! Game
![[Generation III]]
![[Generation IV]]
|-
| Start || {{M|Growl}} || {{M|Growl}}
|-
| 3 || || {{M|Thunder Wave}}
|-
| 4 || {{M|Thunder Wave}} ||
|-
| 7 || || {{M|Quick Attack}}
|-
| 10 || {{M|Quick Attack}} || {{M|Helping Hand}}
|-
| 13 || {{M|Helping Hand}} ||
|-
| 15 || || '''{{M|Spark}}'''
|-
| 17 || || {{M|Encore}}
|-
| 19 || '''{{M|Spark}}''' ||
|-
| 21 || || {{M|Charm}}
|-
| 22 || {{M|Encore}} ||
|-
| 24 || || {{M|Copycat}}
|-
| 28 || {{M|Charm}} ||
|-
| 29 || || {{M|Swift}}
|-
| 31 || {{M|Charge}} ||
|-
| 35 || || {{M|Charge}}
|-
| 37 || '''{{M|Thunder}}''' ||
|-
| 38 || || '''{{M|Thunder}}'''
|-
| 40 || {{M|Baton Pass}} ||
|-
| 42 || || {{M|Baton Pass}}
|-
| 44 || || {{M|Agility}}
|-
| 47 || {{M|Agility}} ||
|-
| 48 || || {{M|Trump Card}}
|-
| 51 || || {{M|Nasty Plot}}
|}

===By TM/HM===
===By breeding===
===By tutoring===
===Special moves===

==Side game data==

{{Side game|
type=electric |
Trozei=yes |
rarity=Common |
Dungeon=yes |
body=1 |
rate=35% |
area=Thunder Meadow |
P1= I work best with Plusle! |
P2= What is this? Only half my HP is left! |
P3= No more... I can't even set off sparks... |
PL= Leveled up! I did it, Plusle! |
Partner=no |
Ranger=yes |
typeG= Electric |
Assist=Discharge |
field= None |
browser= Minun stuns targets with a powerful electric shock to assist captures. |
}}

==Evolution==
{| border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="margin: auto;"
|-
| rowspan="2" |
{{EvoChart Box|
text=Basic |
image=312.png |
name=Minun }}
|}

=Trivia=
==Origin==
It appears to be based on a [[wp:mouse|mouse]] or [[wp:rabbit|rabbit]].

===Name origin===
Minun's name is based on ''minus'', referring to something with a negative electrical charge.

==In other languages==
*[[List of German Pokémon names|German]]: Minun
*[[List of French Pokémon names|French]]: Negapi - Comes from ''negative'' and possibly ''pikapika'', the Japanese onomatopoeia for sparkling.
*[[List of Korean Pokémon names|Korean]]: 마이농 ''Mainong''

=External links=
*[[wp:Minun|Article on Wikipedia]]

{{Starter Pokémon}}

{{PokémonPrevNext | prev=Plusle | next=Volbeat }}
{{Project Pokédex notice}}
[[de:Minun]]
[[ja:マイナン]]
[[Category:Pokémon that are not part of an evolutionary line]]

Minun (Pokémon)

2007-08-13T19:57:12Z

DarkMazer: /* By leveling up */ Check for any missing moves.

{{PokémonPrevNext | prev=Plusle | next=Volbeat }}
{{PokémonInfobox|
name=Minun |
jname=マイナン |
tmname=Minun |
image=312Minun.png |
caption=Artwork from R/S/E |
ndex=312 |
jdex=— |
hdex=081 |
fdex=068 |
typen=1 |
type1=Electric |
type2= |
species=Cheering |
height-ftin=1′04″ |
height-m=0.4 |
weight-lbs=9.3 |
weight-kg=4.2 |
abilityn=1 |
ability1=Minus |
ability2= |
egggroupn=1 |
egggroup1=Fairy |
egggroup2= |
hatchsteps=5,120 |
effortyield=1 Spd |
expyield=120 |
lv100exp=1,000,000 |
gender=both |
female=50 |
male=50 |
color=Yellow |
catchrate=200 |
pokefordex=minun |
generation=3 |
footnotes=}}
'''Minun''' ([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese]]: マイナン ''Minun'') is an {{t|Electric}}-type Pokémon.

=Biology=
==Physiology==
===Gender differences===
None.

===Special abilities===
==Behavior==
==Habitat==
==Diet==
''Main article: [[Pokémon food]]''

=In the anime=
Minun first appeared alongside {{p|Plusle}} in ''[[AG038|A Different Kind of Misty]]''. Both of the Cheering Pokémon were owned by a kid named Batcher, who was responsible for protecting a lighthouse. The same Plusle-Minun duo appeared again in ''[[AG052|Cheer Pressure]]'', in which Batcher were training them to be cheerleaders.

Elijah used Plusle and Minun in a movie for ''[[AG086|Lights, Camerupt, Action]]''. The plot of the movie was that Plusle and Minun were setting out to rescue Princess {{p|Kirlia}} from an evil {{p|Exploud}}.

Plusle and Minun also appear in ''[[Destiny Deoxys]]''. This pair of Cheering Pokémon loved to cause mischeif in [[LaRousse City]].

=In the manga=
=In the TCG=

=Game data=
==NPC appearances==
* [[Pokémon Pinball: Ruby & Sapphire]]: Minun combines with {{p|Plusle}} to produce an electric current blocking the entrance to the Poké Mart on the [[Sapphire Field]].
* [[Pokémon Ranger]]: Minun is the partner of [[Lunick]]. After the end credits, it also feels a bond with [[Solana]].

==Pokédex entries==
{{Dex
|type=electric
|gen=3
|rubydex=Minun is more concerned about cheering on its partners than its own safety. It shorts out the electricity in its body to create brilliant showers of {{M|spark}}s to cheer on its teammates.
|sapphiredex=Minun loves to cheer on its partner in battle. It gives off {{M|spark}}s from its body while it is doing so. If its partner is in trouble, this Pokémon gives off increasing amounts of sparks.
|emeralddex=At a meeting of Pokémon academics, it was announced that simultaneous exposure to electricity from a {{p|Plusle}} and Minun will promote circulation and boost vitality.
|firereddex=Its dislike of water makes it take shelter under the eaves of houses in rain. It uses pom-poms made of sparks for cheering.
|leafgreendex=Its dislike of water makes it take shelter under the eaves of houses in rain. It uses pom-poms made of sparks for cheering.
|diamonddex=It cheers on its friends. If its friends are losing, its body lets off more and more sparks.
|pearldex=It cheers on its friends. If its friends are losing, its body lets off more and more sparks.
|}}

==Game locations==
===In side games===

{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #{{electric color}};"
! Game
! Location
|-
| [[Pokémon Pinball: Ruby & Sapphire]]
| Hatch from egg
|-
| [[Pokémon Trozei!]]
| Huge Storage 4 Endless Level 23 Trozei Battle Mr. Who's Den
|-
| [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon]]
| [[Thunderwave Cave]] (4F-5F) [[Lightning Field]] (7F-19F) [[Joyous Tower]] (5F-8F)
|-
| [[Pokémon Ranger]]
| [[Starter Pokémon]]
|}

Minun will not appear in Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Red Rescue Team until a rescue mission involving it has been completed, using the following Wonder Mail code:
:4 ? M 9 F Q X ? 2 8 N 7
:H R ? H P 5 ? 0 ! 4 ? W
:Objective: Escort Minun to Plusle on floor 7 of [[Mt. Blaze]].

==Base stats==
{{BaseStats|
HP=60 |
Attack=40 |
Defense=50 |
SpAtk=75 |
SpDef=85 |
Speed=95 }}

==Type effectiveness==
{{DP Type effectiveness|
Normal= 100 |
Fighting=100 |
Flying= 50 |
Poison= 100 |
Ground= 200 |
Rock= 100 |
Bug= 100 |
Ghost= 100 |
Steel= 50 |

Fire= 100 |
Water= 100 |
Grass= 100 |
Electric=50 |
Psychic= 100 |
Ice= 100 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 100 }}

==Learnset==
===By leveling up===
{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #{{electric color}};"
! Game
![[Generation III]]
![[Generation IV]]
|-
| Start || {{M|Growl}} || {{M|Growl}}
|-
| 3 || || {{M|Thunder Wave}}
|-
| 4 || {{M|Thunder Wave}} ||
|-
| 7 || || {{M|Quick Attack}}
|-
| 10 || {{M|Quick Attack}} || {{M|Helping Hand}}
|-
| 13 || {{M|Helping Hand}} ||
|-
| 15 || || '''{{M|Spark}}'''
|-
| 17 || || {{M|Encore}}
|-
| 19 || '''{{M|Spark}}''' ||
|-
| 21 || || {{M|Charm}}
|-
| 22 || {{M|Encore}} ||
|-
| 24 || || {{M|Copycat}}
|-
| 28 || {{M|Charm}} ||
|-
| 29 || || {{M|Swift}}
|-
| 31 || {{M|Charge}} ||
|-
| 35 || || {{M|Charge}}
|-
| 37 || '''{{M|Thunder}}''' ||
|-
| 38 || || '''{{M|Thunder}}'''
|-
| 40 || {{M|Baton Pass}} ||
|-
| 42 || || {{M|Baton Pass}}
|-
| 44 || || {{M|Agility}}
|-
| 47 || {{M|Agility}} ||
|-
| 48 || || {{M|Trump Card}}
|-
| 51 || || {{M|Nasty Plot}}
|}

===By TM/HM===
===By breeding===
===By tutoring===
===Special moves===

==Side game data==

{{Side game|
type=electric |
Trozei=yes |
rarity=Common |
Dungeon=yes |
body=1 |
rate=35% |
area=Thunder Meadow |
P1= I work best with Plusle! |
P2= What is this? Only half my HP is left! |
P3= No more... I can't even set off sparks... |
PL= Leveled up! I did it, Plusle! |
Partner=no |
Ranger=yes |
typeG= Electric |
Assist=Discharge |
field= None |
browser= Minun stuns targets with a powerful electric shock to assist captures. |
}}

==Evolution==
{| border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="margin: auto;"
|-
| rowspan="2" |
{{EvoChart Box|
text=Basic |
image=312.png |
name=Minun }}
|}

=Trivia=
==Origin==
It appears to be based on a [[wp:mouse|mouse]] or [[wp:rabbit|rabbit]].

===Name origin===
Minun's name is based on ''minus'', referring to something with a negative electrical charge.

==In other languages==
*[[List of German Pokémon names|German]]: Minun
*[[List of French Pokémon names|French]]: Negapi - Comes from ''negative'' and possibly ''pikapika'', the Japanese onomatopoeia for sparkling.
*[[List of Korean Pokémon names|Korean]]: 마이농 ''Mainong''

=External links=
*[[wp:Minun|Article on Wikipedia]]

{{Starter Pokémon}}

{{PokémonPrevNext | prev=Plusle | next=Volbeat }}
{{Project Pokédex notice}}
[[de:Minun]]
[[ja:マイナン]]
[[Category:Pokémon that are not part of an evolutionary line]]

Bulbapedia talk:Privacy policy/Archive 1

2007-07-14T06:31:09Z

DarkMazer: /* Support */

Keeping Bulbagarden online costs a significant amount, and it is only by [[Bulbapedia:Benefactors|generous]] [[Bulbapedia:Site support|donations]] that we are able to foot the bill. We hope to decrease our reliance on charity by publishing advertisements on Bulbapedia, which is the single largest site on the server in traffic terms. Specifically, we are proposing the publication of [[wp:Google|Google]] [[wp:AdSense|AdSense]] advertisements in the site-wide notice area.

We have refrained from doing so in the past because people are not drawn to Bulbapedia for its community, as is the case with the [[Bulbagarden forums]], but for its content. Bulbapedia is a [[wp:Web 2.0|Web 2.0]] site, therefore its content is created by its users - and to that degree it is also owned by its users, as opposed to other reference sites like Veekun or Smogon, where content is created by the staff. To monetize user-created content can be considered unethical - as one cynic put it, "Web 2.0: you make all the content, we make all the money."

Therefore, we have decided to consult you, the creators of content, on this matter. Naturally, votes will be weighted to reflect the number of edits the voter has made. Please cast your vote by adding your signature (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>) to the end of the signature lists below. All registered users may vote '''once''' to:
* Support the publication of Google AdSense advertisements on Bulbapedia
* Reject the publication of Google AdSense advertisements on Bulbapedia
* Abstain

Users may change their vote at any time until this poll is closed.

=Weightings=
# [[User:BulbaBot|BulbaBot]]: 12
# [[User:Pie|Pie]]: 9 '''(support)'''
# [[User:TTEchidna|TTEchidna]]: 7 '''(support)'''
# [[User:Fabu-Vinny|Fabu-Vinny]]: 5
# [[User:Zhen Lin|Zhen Lin]]: 5
# [[User:PAK Man|PAK Man]]: 4 '''(support)'''
# [[User:Zeta|Zeta]]: 4
# [[User:Taylor|Taylor]]: 3
# [[User:Pokencyclopedia|Pokencyclopedia]]: 3
# [[User:Zurqoxn|Zurqoxn]]: 3 '''(support)'''
# [[User:Woopert|Woopert]]: 3 '''(abstain)'''
# [[User:Argy|Argy]]: 2 '''(abstain)'''
# [[User:Meowth346|Meowth346]]: 2
# [[User:User142|User142]]: 2
# [[User:ElectAbuzzzz|ElectAbuzzzz]]: 1 '''(support)'''
# [[User:Jshadias|Jshadias]]: 1
# [[User:Urutapu|Urutapu]]: 1
# [[User:Siegfried|Siegfried]]: 1 '''(support)'''
# [[User:Ketsuban|Ketsuban]]: 1
# [[User:Evkl|Evkl]]: 1

All other votes will be weighted so that the total weight is 30, provided at least 30 users not in the above list cast their votes, i.e. if 60 users other than the ones above vote, then the weight on each of their votes will be 0.5; otherwise the votes will have weight 1.

=Support=
* [[User:Nyoo|nYoo]] 16:49, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
* [[User:Siegfried|Siegfried]] 17:11, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
* [[User:PAK Man|PAK Man]] [[User talk:PAK Man|Talk]] 17:16, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
* '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 17:33, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
* Crystallucario 12:49, 9-7-07
* [[User:Sketchies|Sketchies]] 19:16, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
* [[User:Blastcage|Blastcage]] 19:46, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
* [[User:ElectAbuzzzz|ElectAbuzzzz]] 19:47, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
* [[User:Pie|Pie]] ~[[User talk:Pie|♪]][[Special:Contributions/Pie|♫]] 22:56, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
* [[User:Pluvia|Pluvia]] 23:21, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
* [[User:Zurqoxn|Zurqoxn]] 23:26, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
* [[User:Sunain|Sunain]] 01:30, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
* [[User:Greengiant|Greengiant]] 01:51, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
* [[User:Spikefish|Spikefish]] 03:58, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
* [[User:Llxwarbirdxll|Llxwarbirdxll]] 04:22, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
* Paperfairy [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:Paperfairy ☆] [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Special:Contributions/Paperfairy ・] 02:36, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
* [[User:Koki.The.Potato|Koki.The.Potato]] 04:39, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
* [[User:Kenji-girl|Kenji Girl]] 05:15, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
* -- [[user:Jioruji Derako|'''J'''ioruji '''D'''erako.'''>''']] 12:41, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
* [[User:DocSigma|DocSigma]] 12:56, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
* [[User:DragonFeather|DragonFeather]] 15:31, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
* [[User:funderwood|funderwood]] 9:18, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
* -[[User:PsychoYoshi|PsychoYoshi]] 18:30, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
* [[User:Wynautluvr|Wynautluvr]] 13:43, 10 July 2007 (CDST)
* [[User:Drapion|Drapion]] 19:35, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
* [[User:AJHayson|AJHayson]] 20:36, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
* [[User:Simmercross|Sabaku]] 02:54, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
* [[User:Carnivine|Carnivine]] 04:37, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
* [[User:Miss Kass|Miss Kass]] 05:18, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
* [[User:Joey|Joey]] 07:09, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
* [[User:GanLnkZld|GanLnkZld]]
* [[User:Joinred1127|Joinred1127]] 22:12, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
* [[User:Matkin22|Matkin22]] 23:10, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
* [[User:DanPMK|MK]] 20:26, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
* [[User:Pikachu25|Pikachu25]] 22:02, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
* [[User:Obake|Obake]] 20:27, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
* [[User:DarkMazer|DarkMazer]] 06:31, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

=Reject=
*[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 18:12, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
*[[User:Empoleon Bonaparte|Empoleon ''Bono'' Bonaparte]] 20:50, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
*[[User:toribird|Toribird]] 18:06, 9 July 2007 (EST)
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User:DarkMazer

2007-07-02T23:15:57Z

DarkMazer: /* DarkMazer */

Welcome to my user page. I have nothing impressive here yet.

==DarkMazer==
As far as Pokèmon goes, I've been playing since Red and Blue were released. I own all of the main games, except a few, and some of the offshoot games. My favorite games are Pokémon Pearl Version and Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Blue Rescue Team. My friends and I consider me to be somewhat of a master of Pokèmon, at least regarding knowledge. If you want to know more about me in general, look me up in [[wp:User:DarkMazer|Wikipedia.]]

User:DarkMazer

2007-07-02T23:13:07Z

DarkMazer: /* DarkMazer */

Welcome to my user page. I have nothing impressive here yet.

==DarkMazer==
As far as Pokèmon goes, I've been playing since Red and Blue were released. I own all of the main games, except a few, and some of the offshoot games. My friends and I consider me to be somewhat of a master of Pokèmon, at least regarding knowledge. If you want to know more about me in general, look me up in [[wp:User:DarkMazer|Wikipedia.]]

User:DarkMazer

2007-07-02T23:10:55Z

DarkMazer: /* DarkMazer */

Welcome to my user page. I have nothing impressive here yet.

==DarkMazer==
As far as Pokèmon goes, I've been playing since Red and Blue were released. I own all of the main games, except a few, and some of the offshoot games. My friends and I consider me to be somewhat of a master of Pokèmon, at least regarding knowledge. If you want to know more about me in general, look me up in [[wp:User:DarkMazer]]Wikipedia.

Held item

2007-06-30T07:38:07Z

DarkMazer: Sorted some items, added some prices to Misc. items, please check my work

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A '''held item''' is an [[item]] held by [[Pokémon]] on direction from their [[Pokémon trainer|trainer]]. This capability was first introduced in [[Generation II]], though the thought of held items may extend as far back as [[Pokémon Yellow]], where many {{p|Farfetch'd}} and {{p|Kadabra}}, upon trading to a [[Generation II]] game, are revealed to have held items, a Stick and a Twisted Spoon, respectively. Held items range from [[Berries]] that can be used in battle to recover to items that can be used to enhance the power of certain moves. Most other items may be held as well, such as [[Poké Ball]]s and [[Revive]]s, though the Pokémon will not use them.

The following is a list of items made solely to be held items, grouped by purpose and listed in alphabetical order.

:''This list is incomplete. You can help by expanding it.''

==Type enhancing items==
These items, when held, will enhance the potency of attacks that correspond to the item by 10%. For example, if a Pokémon holds Mystic Water and uses a {{t|Water}}-[[type]] attack, the power of the Water-type attack will be increased by 10%. In D/P, this was changed to 20%.

If these items are sold, [[Poké Mart]]s will pay [[Image:Pokébuck sign.gif]]50 for them with the exception of Charcoal, for which Poké Marts will pay [[Image:Pokébuck sign.gif]]4,900, and the Adamant/Lustrous Orbs for which Poké Marts will offer [[Image:Pokébuck sign.gif]]5,000.

In [[Generation II]], several of these items can only be obtained from the [[Weekday Siblings]].

===[[Image:AdamantOrb.png]] Adamant Orb===
*'''Type enhanced:''' {{t|Dragon}} and {{t|Steel}}
*'''Found:'''
**[[Spear Pillar]] ([[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl|Diamond]] only)
*'''Note:''' Only effective when held by {{p|Dialga}}.

===[[Image:BlackBeltSprite.png]] Black Belt===
*'''Type enhanced:''' {{t|Fighting}}
*'''Found:'''
**[[Wesley]] at [[Lake of Rage]] ([[Generation II]])
**[[Route 115]] ([[Pokemon Ruby and Sapphire|R/S]][[Pokemon Emerald|/E]])
**[[Route 15]], use [[Thief]] or [[Covet]] in battle with Crush Kin ([[Pokemon FireRed and LeafGreen|FR/LG]])
**Old man in a house on [[Route 221]] ([[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl|D/P]])

===[[Image:BlackglassesSprite.png]] BlackGlasses===
*'''Type enhanced:''' {{t|Dark}}
*'''Found:'''
**[[Dark Cave]] ([[Generation II]])
**[[Route 116]] and [[Rocket Game Corner]] ([[Generation III]])
**Old man in a house in [[Celestic Town]] ([[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl|D/P]])

===[[Image:CharcoalSprite.png]] Charcoal===
*'''Type enhanced:''' {{t|Fire}}
*'''Found:'''
**[[Azalea Town]] ([[Generation II]])
**[[Lavaridge Town]] and [[Rocket Game Corner]] ([[Generation III]])
**[[Route 227]] ([[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl|D/P]])

===[[Image:DragonFangSprite.png]] Dragon Fang===
*'''Type enhanced:''' {{t|Dragon}}
*'''Found:'''
**[[Dragon's Den]] ([[Generation II]])
**[[Meteor Falls]] and on some wild {{p|Dratini}} and {{p|Dragonair}} ([[Generation III]])
**Found on some wild {{p|Bagon}} ([[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl|D/P]])

===[[Image:HardStoneSprite.png]] Hard Stone===
*'''Type enhanced:''' {{t|Rock}}
*'''Found:'''
**[[Arthur]] on [[Route 36]] ([[Generation II]])
**[[Trick House]] and on some wild {{p|Onix}} ([[Generation III]])
**Found on some wild {{p|Aron}}, {{p|Nosepass}} and {{p|Corsola}}, can be dug up in [[the Underground]] ([[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl|D/P]])

===[[Image:LustrousOrbSprite.png]] Lustrous Orb===
*'''Type enhanced:''' {{t|Dragon}} and {{t|Water}}
*'''Found:'''
**[[Spear Pillar]] ([[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl|Pearl]] only)
*'''Note:''' Only effective when held by {{p|Palkia}}.

===[[Image:MagnetSprite.png]] Magnet===
*'''Type enhanced:''' {{t|Electric}}
*'''Found:'''
**[[Sunny]] on [[Route 37]] ([[Generation II]])
**[[Trick House]] ([[Pokemon Ruby and Sapphire|R/S]][[Pokemon Emerald|/E]])
**Found on some wild {{p|Magnemite}} and {{p|Magneton}} ([[Pokemon FireRed and LeafGreen|FR/LG]])
**[[Iron Island]] ([[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl|D/P]])

===[[Image:MetalCoatSprite.png]] Metal Coat===
*'''Type enhanced:''' {{t|Steel}}
*'''Notes:''' If held by a {{p|Onix}} or a {{p|Scyther}} when they are traded, the Pokémon will evolve into {{p|Steelix}} or {{p|Scizor}}, respectively.
*'''Found:'''
**[[S.S. Aqua]] ([[Generation II]])
**[[Memorial Pillar]] ([[Pokemon FireRed and LeafGreen|FR/LG]])
**[[New Mauville]], found on some wild {{p|Magnemite}} and {{p|Magneton}} ([[Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire|R/S]][[Pokemon Emerald|/E]])
**[[Iron Island]], found on some wild {{p|Bronzor}}, {{p|Bronzong}}, {{p|Steelix}}, {{p|Magnemite}} and {{p|Beldum}} ([[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl|D/P]])

===[[Image:MiracleSeedSprite.png]] Miracle Seed===
*'''Type enhanced:''' {{t|Grass}}
*'''Found:'''
**[[Route 32]] ([[Generation II]])
**[[Petalburg Woods]] and [[Rocket Game Corner]] ([[Generation III]])
**[[Floaroma Town]] Flower Fields, found on some wild {{p|Cherubi}} ([[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl|D/P]])

===[[Image:MysticWaterSprite.png]] Mystic Water===
*'''Type enhanced:''' {{t|Water}}
*'''Found:'''
**[[Cherrygrove City]] ([[Generation II]])
**[[Weather Institute]] and [[Rocket Game Corner]] ([[Generation III]])
**[[Pastoria City]], found on some wild {{p|Castform}} ([[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl|D/P]])

===[[Image:NevermelticeSprite.png]] NeverMeltIce===
*'''Type enhanced:''' {{t|Ice}}
*'''Found:'''
**[[Ice Path]] ([[Generation II]])
**[[Shoal Cave]] and [[Icefall Cave]] ([[Generation III]])
**[[Snowpoint City]], found on some wild {{p|Snover}} ([[Generation IV]])

===Pink Bow===
*'''Type enhanced:''' {{t|Normal}}
*'''Notes:''' Replaced by Silk Scarf in [[Generation III]].
*'''Found:''' [[Tuscany]] on [[Route 29]] and [[Johto Radio Tower]] ([[Generation II]])

===‎[[Image:FlamePlate.png‎]] [[Plate]]s===
*'''Type enhanced:''' Various
*'''Notes:''' One plate for each type except {{t|Normal}}. They each raise the moves of their respective type. They also activate {{p|Arceus}}'s ability.
*'''Found:''' Various locations in [[Sinnoh]], [[the Underground|Underground]] ([[Generation IV]])

===[[Image:PoisonBarbSprite.png]] Poison Barb===
*'''Type enhanced:''' {{t|Poison}}
*'''Found:'''
**[[Frieda]] on [[Route 32]] ([[Generation II]])
**Found on some wild {{p|Arbok}}, {{p|Cacnea}}, {{p|Roselia}} ([[Generation III]])
**[[Route 206]], found on some wild {{p|Roselia}}, {{p|Budew}}, {{p|Tentacool}}, {{p|Tentacruel}}, {{p|Skorupi}}, {{p|Drapion}} and {{p|Qwilfish}} ([[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl|D/P]])

===Polkadot Bow===
*'''Type enhanced:''' {{t|Normal}}
*'''Notes:''' Replaced by Silk Scarf in [[Generation III]].
*'''Found:''' Traded [[Pokémon]] ([[Generation II]])

===[[Image:SharpBeakSprite.png]] Sharp Beak===
*'''Type enhanced:''' {{t|Flying}}
*'''Found:'''
**[[Monica]] on [[Route 40]] ([[Generation II]])
**Found on some wild {{p|Doduo}}, {{p|Dodrio}}, {{p|Fearow}} ([[Generation III]])
**Found on some wild {{p|Doduo}} and {{p|Fearow}} ([[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl|D/P]])

===[[Image:SilkScarfSprite.png]] Silk Scarf===
*'''Type enhanced:''' {{t|Normal}}
*'''Notes:''' Succeeded both Pink Bow and Polkadot Bow from [[Generation II]].
*'''Found:'''
**[[Dewford Town]] and [[Lost Cave]] ([[Generation III]])
**Purchase for 1000 coins at the [[Veilstone City]] Game Corner ([[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl|D/P]])

===[[Image:SilverpowderSprite.png]] SilverPowder===
*'''Type enhanced:''' {{t|Bug}}
*'''Found:'''
**[[Wild Pokémon]] ([[Generation II]])
**[[Route 120]] ([[Generation III]])
**[[Route 205]] ([[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl|D/P]])

===[[Image:SoftSandSprite.png]] Soft Sand===
*'''Type enhanced:''' {{t|Ground}}
*'''Found:'''
**[[Route 34]] ([[Generation II]])
**[[Route 109]] and on some wild {{p|Sandshrew}} and {{p|Sandslash}} ([[Generation III]])
**[[Mt. Coronet]], found on some wild {{p|Diglett}}, {{p|Dugtrio}} and {{p|Trapinch}} ([[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl|D/P]])

===[[Image:SpellTagSprite.png]] Spell Tag===
*'''Type enhanced:''' {{t|Ghost}}
*'''Found:'''
**[[Santos]] in [[Blackthorn City]] ([[Generation II]])
**[[Wild Pokémon|Wild Ghost-type Pokémon]] ([[Generation III]])
**House on [[Route 216]], found on some wild {{p|Banette}} ([[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl|D/P]])

===[[Image:TwistedspoonSprite.png]] Twistedspoon===
Also referred to as "Twisted Spoon".
*'''Type enhanced:''' {{t|Psychic}}
*'''Found:'''
**{{p|Kadabra}} traded from [[Pokémon Yellow]] ([[Generation II]])
** Wild {{p|Abra}} and {{p|Kadabra}} ([[Generation III]]) ([[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl|D/P]])

==Stat enhancing items==
These items, when held, will increase certain [[stats]] of Pokémon. Some can only be used by specific Pokémon.

===DeepSeaScale===
*'''Stat enhanced:''' Special Defense of {{p|Clamperl}}
*'''Found:'''
**Attached to {{p|Clamperl}} (''R''/''S''/''E''/''FR''/''LG'').

===DeepSeaTooth===
*'''Stat enhanced:''' Special Attack and Defense of {{p|Clamperl}}
*'''Found:'''
**Attached to {{p|Clamperl}} (''R''/''S''/''E''/''FR''/''LG'').

===[[Image:LightBallSprite.png]] Light Ball===
*'''Stat enhanced:''' Special Attack of Pikachu
*'''Notes:''' In Pokémon Emerald, if a Pikachu or {{p|Raichu}} holds this item while in the daycare with a compatible Pokémon, and a {{p|Pichu}} would normally hatch from the egg (the Pikachu is female and/or is breeding with {{p|Ditto}}), the {{p|Pichu}} that hatches from the eventual egg will have the move {{m|Volt Tackle}}, which is otherwise unavailable.
*'''Found:'''
**Starting {{p|Pikachu}} from [[Pokémon Yellow]] traded into [[Generation II]]
**Found on some wild Pikachu ([[Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire|R/S]][[Pokémon Emerald|/E]]), ([[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl|D/P]])

===Lucky Punch===
*'''Stat enhanced:''' Critical Hit Ratio of {{p|Chansey}}
*'''Found:'''
**Attached to {{p|Chansey}} (''G''/''S''/''C'', ''XD'')
**Sevault Canyon ([[Generation III]])

===Metal Powder===
*'''Stat enhanced:''' Special Defense and Defense of {{p|Ditto}}
*'''Found:'''
**Attached to {{p|Ditto}} (''G''/''S''/''C''), (''D''/''P'') .

===[[Image:SoulDewSprite.png]] Soul Dew===
*'''Stat enhanced:''' Special Attack and Special Defense of Latios and Latias.
*'''Found:'''
**{{p|Latios}} or {{p|Latias}} on [[Southern Island]] ([[Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire|R/S]][[Pokémon Emerald|/E]])

===[[Image:StickSprite.png]] Stick===
*'''Stat enhanced:''' Critcal hit ratio of Farfetch'd
*'''Found:'''
**Found on some wild {{p|Farfetch'd}} ([[Generation II]])
**[[Vermilion City]] ([[Generation III]])
**Found on some wild {{p|Farfetch'd}} ([[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl|D/P]])

===[[Image:ThickClubSprite.png]] Thick Club===
*'''Stat enhanced:''' Attack of Cubone and Marowak
*'''Found:'''
**Found on some wild {{p|Cubone}} and {{p|Marowak}}

== In Battle Effect Items ==
These items will take effect during battle to either aid or hinder the Pokémon holding them or an opponent.

====[[Image:AmuletCoin.png]] Amulet Coin====
* '''Effect:''' Doubles money received after battle if the holder takes part in the battle.
*'''Found:'''
**Basement of [[Goldenrod Department Store]] behind crate ([[Generation II]])
**Received from mom after obtaining 5th badge. ([[Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire|R/S]][[Pokémon Emerald|/E]])
**Given by Prof. Oak's aide ([[Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen|FR/LG]])
**Ruins in [[Amity Square]] ([[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl|D/P]])

====Berserk Gene====
* '''Effect:''' Confuses the user and raises [[stat#Attack|Attack]].
*'''Found:'''
**[[Cerulean City]], right near where the entrance of [[Cerulean Cave]] would have been ([[Pokémon Gold and Silver|G/S]][[Pokémon Crystal|/C]])

====[[Image:BigRoot.png]] Big Root====
* '''Effect:''' Boost the amount of HP restored through HP-stealing moves.
*'''Found:'''
**[[Route 214]] ([[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl|D/P]])

====[[Image:BlackSludge.png]] Black Sludge====
* '''Effect:''' Restores HP of {{t|Poison}}-type Pokémon in battle; damages all other types.
*'''Found:'''
**Wild Croagunk and Toxicroak (''D''/''P'')

====[[Image:BrightPowder.png]] BrightPowder====
* '''Effect:''' When held by a Pokémon currently in battle, it lowers the accuracy of the opponent.
*'''Found:'''
**[[Battle Tower (Hoenn)|Battle Tower]] ([[Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire|R/S]])
**[[Battle Tower (Sinnoh)|Battle Tower]] (48BP) ([[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl|D/P]])

====[[Image:ChoiceBand.png]] Choice Band====
* '''Effect:''' Increases the first move used by a factor of 1.5 when held. Can't use other moves while out.
*'''Found:'''
**[[Battle Frontier]] (64 BP) ([[Pokémon Emerald|Emerald]])
**[[Battle Tower (Sinnoh)|Battle Tower]] (48BP) ([[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl|D/P]])

====[[Image:DampRock.png]] Damp Rock====
* '''Effect:''' Makes the effect of the move {{m|Rain Dance}} last longer.
*'''Found:'''
**Dig out in [[the Underground]] ([[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl|D/P]])

====[[Image:FocusBand.png]] Focus Band====
* '''Effect:''' May allow a Pokémon to survive a fatal attack with 1 HP. Doesn't work if the Pokémon has 1 HP.
*'''Found:'''
**[[Battle Tower (Sinnoh)|Battle Tower]] (48BP) ([[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl|D/P]])
**[[Battle Frontier]] (64BP) ([[Emerald]])

====[[Image:GripClawSprite.png]] Grip Claw====
*'''Effect:''' A hold item that increases the duration of multiturn attacks (e.g.: {{m|Bind}} and {{m|Wrap}}).
*'''Found:'''
**Some wild {{p|Sneasel}} ([[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl|D/P]])

====[[Image:HeatRock.png]] Heat Rock====
* '''Effect:''' Makes the effect of the move {{m|Sunny Day}} last longer.
*'''Found:'''
**Dig out in [[the Underground]] ([[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl|D/P]])

====Iron Ball====
* '''Effect:''' Cuts the user's speed. It makes Flying-Type Pokémon and users with ability "[[levitate]]" susceptible to ground type moves
*'''Found:'''
** [[Underground]], [[Iron Island]] ([[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl|D/P]])

====[[Image:Leftovers.png‎]] Leftovers====
* '''Effect:''' Restores 1/16 of the Pokémon's maximum HP (rounded down) each round (in battle) when held.
*'''Found:'''
**100% chance of being held by wild {{p|Snorlax}} ([[Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire|R/S]][[Pokémon Emerald|/E]]) and [[Generation II]]
**Found under both sleeping {{p|Snorlax}} (use [[Itemfinder]]) ([[Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen|FR/LG]])
**[[Battle Frontier]] prize and inside SS. Tidal bin ([[Pokémon Emerald|Emerald]])
**Found on wild {{p|Munchlax}}, [[Victory Road (Sinnoh)|Victory Road]] ([[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl|D/P]])

====[[Image:MentalHerb.png]] Mental Herb====
* '''Effect:''' Prevents Attraction
*'''Found:'''
**[[Fortree City]] (([[Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire|R/S]][[Pokémon Emerald|/E]])
**[[Battle Frontier]] (48BP) ([[Pokémon Emerald|Emerald]])

====Muscle Band====
* '''Effect:''' Boosts power of physical moves by 10%.
*'''Found:'''
** [[Battle Tower (Sinnoh)|Battle Tower]] (48BP) ([[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl|D/P]])

====[[Image:PowerHerb.png]] Power Herb====
* '''Effect:''' Allows user to omit first turn of charge-up required moves
*'''Found:'''
** [[Battle Tower (Sinnoh)|Battle Tower]] (32BP) ([[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl|D/P]])

====[[Image:QuickClaw.png]] Quick Claw====
* '''Effect:''' A hold item that occasionally allows first strike
*'''Found:'''
**[[Rustboro City]] ([[Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire|R/S]][[Pokémon Emerald|/E]])
**[[Kanto Safari Zone|Safari Zone]] ([[Pokemon FireRed and LeafGreen|FR/LG]])
**[[Battle Frontier]] (48BP) ([[Pokémon Emerald|Emerald]])
**House in [[Jubilife City]], found on some wild {{p|Sneasel}}, {{p|Meowth}}, {{p|Sandshrew}}, {{p|Sandslash}} and {{p|Zangoose}} ([[Pokemon Diamond and Pearl|D/P]])

====[[Image:ScopeLens.png]] Scope Lens====
* '''Effect:''' Increases the critical hit probability for the Pokémon holding the item
*'''Found:'''
**[[Battle Tower (Hoenn)|Battle Tower]] and [[Battle Frontier]] (64BP) ([[Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire|R/S]][[Pokémon Emerald|/E]])
**Woman in shop in [[Fight Area]] ([[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl|D/P]])

====[[Image:ShellBell.png]] Shell Bell====
* '''Effect:''' Restores a small amount of HP whenever the pokemon holding it deals damage.
*'''Found:'''
**[[Shoal Cave]] by bringing the old man four [[Shoal Salt]]s and four [[Shoal Shell]]s ([[Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire|R/S]][[Pokémon Emerald|/E]])
**House in [[Hearthome City]] ([[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl|D/P]])

====Smooth Rock====
* '''Effect:''' Increases the length of Sandstorm by 3 turns.
*'''Found:'''
** Dig out in [[the Underground]] ([Pokémon Diamond and Pearl|D/P]])

====[[Image:WhiteHerb.png]] White Herb====
* '''Effect:''' Cures any status condition
*'''Found:'''
** [[Battle Frontier]] (48BP) ([[Pokémon Emerald|Emerald]])
** [[Battle Tower (Sinnoh)|Battle Tower]] (32BP) ([[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl|D/P]])

====Wide Lens====
*'''Effect:''' Boosts the holder's Accuracy.
*'''Found:'''
** [[Veilstone Game Corner]] (1000 Coins), Wild Yanma ([[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl|D/P]])

====Wise Glasses====
*'''Effect:''' Boosts the power of special moves by 10%.
*'''Found:'''
** Old man in a house in [[Celestic Town]] (Pokémon Diamond and Pearl|D/P]])

====Zoom Lens====
*'''Effect:''' Boosts critical-hit ratio if the holder moves after the foe.
*'''Found:'''
** [[Veilstone Game Corner]] (1000 Coins) ([[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl|D/P]])

==Evolution items==
These items, when held by a Pokémon, will cause it to undergo [[evolution]] when activated by another event, such as gaining a [[level]] or being [[trade]]d.

===[[Image:Deepseascale.png]] DeepSeaScale===
*'''Pokémon affected:''' Causes {{p|Clamperl}} to evolve into {{p|Gorebyss}} when [[trade]]d.
*'''Found:'''
**Gift from [[Captain Stern]] after finding the Scanner on the [[Abandoned Ship]] ([[Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire|R/S]][[Pokémon Emerald|/E]])
**Found on some wild [[Chinchou]], [[Lanturn]] and [[Relicanth]] ([[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl|D/P]]).

===[[Image:Deepseatooth.png]] DeepSeaTooth===
*'''Pokémon affected:''' Causes {{p|Clamperl}} to evolve into {{p|Huntail}} when [[trade]]d.
*'''Found:'''
**Gift from [[Captain Stern]] after finding the Scanner on the [[Abandoned Ship]] ([[Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire|R/S]][[Pokémon Emerald|/E]])
**Found on some wild [[Carvanha]] and [[Sharpedo]] ([[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl|D/P]]).

===[[Image:DragonScale.png]] Dragon Scale===
*'''Pokémon affected:''' Causes {{p|Seadra}} to evolve into {{p|Kingdra}} when [[trade]]d.
*'''Found:'''
**[[Mount Mortar]] ([[Generation II]])
**[[Fortune Island|Six Island]] and on some wild {{p|Horsea}} and {{p|Bagon}} ([[Generation III]])
**Found on some wild {{p|Horsea}}, {{p|Seadra}}, {{p|Dratini}}, {{p|Dragonair}} and {{p|Bagon}} ([[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl|D/P]])

===[[Image:EeriePatch.png]] Dubious Disc===
*'''Pokémon affected:''' Causes {{p|Porygon2}} to evolve into {{p|Porygon-Z}} when [[trade]]d.
*'''Found:'''
**[[Route 225]] ([[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl|D/P]])

===[[Image:ElectroBooster.png]] Electrizer===
*'''Pokémon affected:''' Causes {{p|Electabuzz}} to evolve into {{p|Electivire}} when [[trade]]d.
*'''Found:'''
**Found on some wild {{p|Elekid}} ([[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl|DP]]) (50% in Diamond, 5% in Pearl)

===[[Image:KingsRock.png]] King's Rock===
*'''Pokémon affected:''' Causes {{p|Poliwhirl}} to evolve into {{p|Politoed}} when [[trade]]d, causes {{p|Slowpoke}} to evolve into {{p|Slowking}} when traded.
*'''Notes:''' Also raises chances of causing opponents to [[flinch]].
*'''Found:'''
**[[Slowpoke Well]] ([[Generation II]])
**Near [[Steven Stone|Steven´s]] house in [[Mossdeep City]] ([[Pokemon Ruby and Sapphire|R/S]][[Pokemon Emerald|/E]])
**[[Sevault Canyon]] and 5% chance of being attached to wild {{p|Slowpoke}} ([[Pokemon FireRed and LeafGreen|FR/LG]])
**Found on some wild {{p|Poliwhirl}} ([[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl|D/P]]).

===[[Image:MagmaBooster.png]] Magmarizer===
*'''Pokémon affected:''' Causes {{p|Magmar}} to evolve into {{p|Magmortar}} when [[trade]]d.
*'''Found:'''
**Found on some wild {{p|Magby}} ([[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl|DP]]) (5% in Diamond, 50% in Pearl)

===[[Image:MetalCoatSprite.png]] Metal Coat===
*'''Type enhanced:''' {{t|Steel}}
*'''Notes:''' If held by a {{p|Onix}} or a {{p|Scyther}} when they are traded, the Pokémon will evolve into {{p|Steelix}} or {{p|Scizor}}, respectively.
*'''Found:'''
**[[S.S. Aqua]] ([[Generation II]])
**[[New Mauville]], found on some [[Magnemite]] and [[Magneton]] ([[Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire|R/S]][[Pokémon Emerald|/E]])
**[[Memorial Pillar]] ([[Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen|FR/LG]])
**[[Iron Island]], found on some wild {{p|Bronzor}}, {{p|Bronzong}}, {{p|Steelix}}, {{p|Magnemite}} and {{p|Beldum}} ([[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl|D/P]])

===[[Image:Protector.png]] Protector===
*'''Pokémon affected:''' Causes {{p|Rhydon}} to evolve into {{p|Rhyperior}} when [[trade]]d.
*'''Found:'''
**[[Route 228]] ([[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl|D/P]]).

===[[Image:RoundStone.png]] Oval Stone===
*'''Pokémon affected:''' Causes {{p|Happiny}} to evolve into {{p|Chansey}} when raised a [[level]].
*'''Found:'''
**Found on some wild {{p|Happiny}} and {{p|Chansey}}, first floor of [[Lost Tower]] after defeating a Trainer, ([[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl|D/P]])

===[[Image:SharpClaw.png]] Razor Claw===
*'''Pokémon affected:''' Causes {{p|Sneasel}} to evolve into {{p|Weavile}} when raised a [[level]] at night.
*'''Found:'''
**[[Route 224]], [[Victory_Road (Sinnoh)|Victory Road]] and available to buy at the [[Battle Tower (Sinnoh)|Battle Tower]] ([[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl|D/P]])

===[[Image:SharpFang.png]] Razor Fang===
*'''Pokémon affected:''' Causes {{p|Gligar}} to evolve into {{p|Gliscor}} when raised a [[level]] at night.
*'''Found:'''
**[[Fight Area]] and available to buy at the [[Battle Tower (Sinnoh)|Battle Tower]] ([[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl|D/P]])

===[[Image:SpiritWorldCloth.png]] Reaper Cloth===
*'''Pokémon affected:''' Causes {{p|Dusclops}} to evolve into {{p|Dusknoir}} when [[trade]]d.
*'''Found:'''
**[[Route 229]], ([[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl|D/P]])

===[[Image:Up-Grade.png]] Up-Grade===
*'''Pokémon affected:''' Causes {{p|Porygon}} to evolve into {{p|Porygon2}} when [[trade]]d.
*'''Found:'''
**[[Silph Co.]] ([[Generation II]])
**Team Rocket Base in [[Five Isle Meadow]] ([[Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen|FR/LG]])
**Obtain from [[Prof. Oak]] at his house in [[Eterna City]] after obtaining the National Dex. ([[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl|D/P]])

==Breeding items==
These items, when held, will cause a different Pokémon to emerge from the egg produced at the daycare. While regularly, a {{p|Marill}} that is bred will produce another Marill, when it is holding one of the specific incenses, it will produce an {{p|Azurill}} egg. This is true for all [[Baby Pokémon]] introduced beyond [[Generation II]].

===[[Image:FullStomachIncenseSprite.png]] Full Incense===
*'''Pokémon affected:''' Causes {{p|Snorlax}} to produce a {{p|Munchlax}} [[Pokémon egg|egg]] while at the [[Pokémon Daycare]].
*'''Notes:''' Also forces holder to make moves last.
*'''Found:'''
**[[Veilstone City]] ([[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl|D/P]])

===[[Image:LaxIncenseSprite.png]] Lax Incense===
*'''Pokémon affected:''' Causes {{p|Wobbuffet}} to produce a {{p|Wynaut}} [[Pokémon egg|egg]] while at the [[Pokémon Daycare]].
*'''Notes:''' Also slightly lowers opponent's acuracy.
*'''Found:'''
**[[Mt. Pyre]] and [[Lost Cave]] ([[Generation III]])
**[[Route 225]] ([[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl|D/P]])

===[[Image:LuckyIncenseSprite.png]] Luck Incense===
*'''Pokémon affected:''' Causes {{p|Chansey}} and {{p|Blissey}} to produce a {{p|Happiny}} [[Pokémon egg|egg]] while at the [[Pokémon Daycare]].
*'''Notes:''' Also doubles money received from battles.
*'''Found:'''
**[[Ravaged Path]] ([[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl|D/P]])

===[[Image:EerieIncenseSprite.png]] Odd Incense===
*'''Pokémon affected:''' Causes {{p|Mr. Mime}} to produce a {{p|Mime Jr.}} [[Pokémon egg|egg]] while at the [[Pokémon Daycare]].
*'''Notes:''' Also raises the power of {{t|Psychic}} attacks.
*'''Found:'''
**[[Solaceon Ruins]] ([[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl|D/P]])

===[[Image:ClearIncenseSprite.png]] Pure Incense===
*'''Pokémon affected:''' Causes {{p|Chimecho}} to produce a {{p|Chingling}} [[Pokémon egg|egg]] while at the [[Pokémon Daycare]].
*'''Notes:''' Also lowers [[wild Pokémon]] encounter rate.
*'''Found:'''
**[[Route 221]] ([[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl|D/P]])

===[[Image:FlowerIncenseSprite.png]] Rose Incense===
*'''Pokémon affected:''' Causes {{p|Roselia}} and {{p|Roserade}} to produce a {{p|Budew}} [[Pokémon egg|egg]] while at the [[Pokémon Daycare]].
*'''Notes''': Raises power of {{t|Grass}} attacks.
*'''Found:'''
**[[Route 212]] ([[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl|D/P]])

===[[Image:RockIncenseSprite.png]] Rock Incense===
*'''Pokémon affected:''' Causes {{p|Sudowoodo}} to produce a {{p|Bonsly}} [[Pokémon egg|egg]] while at the [[Pokémon Daycare]].
*'''Notes:''' Also raises power of {{t|Rock}} attacks.
*'''Found:'''
**[[Valley Windworks]] ([[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl|D/P]])

===[[Image:SeaIncenseSprite.png]] Sea Incense===
*'''Pokémon affected:''' Causes {{p|Marill}} and {{p|Azumarill}} to produce an {{p|Azurill}} [[Pokémon egg|egg]] while at the [[Pokémon Daycare]].
*'''Notes:''' Also enhances {{t|Water}}-type moves by 5%.
*'''Found:'''
**[[Mt. Pyre]] and [[Lost Cave]] ([[Generation III]])
**[[Route 204]] ([[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl|D/P]])

===[[Image:SmallWaveIncenseSprite.png]] Wave Incense===
*'''Pokémon affected:''' Causes {{p|Mantine}} to produce a {{p|Mantyke}} [[Pokémon egg|egg]] while at the [[Pokémon Daycare]].
*'''Notes:''' Also raises power of {{t|Water}} moves.
*'''Found:'''
**[[Route 210]] ([[Generation IV]])

==Miscellaneous items==

These need to be put in the correct place in the above article

====Berries====
Price: 
Sell for: [[Image:Pokébuck sign.gif]]10 
Where to find: 
Use: ''See [[Berries#Generation III Berries|Generation III Berries]]''. 

====Choice Scarf====
Price: N/A 
Sell for: ? 
Where to find: Battle Park (48BP) 
Use: Boosts Speed by 1.5x, but allows use of only one move.

====Choice Specs====
Price: N/A 
Sell for: [[Image:Pokébuck sign.gif]]100 
Where to find: Celestic Town 
Use: Boosts Special Attack by 1.5x, but allows use of only one move.

====Cleanse Tag====
Price: N/A 
Sell for: [[Image:Pokébuck sign.gif]]100 
Where to find: Old lady in old Pokémon Day Care gives it to you (''G''/''S''/''C''/''FR''/''LG''). 
Use: Repels Pokémon if the holder is 1st in the party.

====Destiny Knot====
Price: N/A 
Sell for: [[Image:Pokébuck sign.gif]]100 
Where to find: Route 224 
Use: If the holder is infatuated, the foe becomes infatuated too.

====Everstone====
Price: N/A 
Sell for: [[Image:Pokébuck sign.gif]]100 
Where to find: In the Ruby/Sapphire games, it is found in Granite Cave. It is placed on an "altar." In FireRed/LeafGreen, one of Professor Oak's aides at Rock Tunnel Pokémon Center gives it to you upon registering 20 Pokémon in the Pokédex. In Diamond/Pearl, it can be found on a Haunter that a girl in Snowpoint City will trade for any Medicham (which are easily found in the wild just outside of town). It can also be dug up in [[the Underground]]. 
Use: A hold item which prevents a Pokémon from evolving. Also, when placed on the female or acting-female (in the case of a Ditto) when breeding, it increases the probability of the hatched Pokémon's nature to be that of the mother by 50%. 

====Exp. Share====
Price: N/A 
Sell for: [[Image:Pokébuck sign.gif]]1500 
Where to find: [[Mr. Pokémon]] will give it to you in exchange for a {{I|Red Scale}} in ''G''/''S''/''C''. In ''R''/''S''/''E'', the president of Devon Corp. gives it to you. It can be obtained on [[Route 15]] in ''FR''/''LG''. In ''D''/''P'', the Professor's assistant (Dawn/Lucas's father) will give it to you in Eterna City if you've seen 35 Pokémon. 
Use: Give to a Pokémon in your party and it will receive half of the experience from battles fought, plus a share if it fights. In R/S/E/FR/LG/D/P, Pokémon wearing one will also gain [[effort values]].

====Expert Belt====
Price: N/A 
Sell for: [[Image:Pokébuck sign.gif]]100 
Where to find: Route 221 
Use: Boosts the power of super-effective moves by 10%.

====Flame Orb====
Price: N/A 
Sell for: ? 
Where to find: Battle Park (16BP) 
Use: Inflicts a Burn on the holder. It takes a turn to work.

====Focus Sash====
Price: N/A 
Sell for: [[Image:Pokébuck sign.gif]]100 
Where to find: Route 221, Battle Park (48BP) 
Use: Keeps at least one HP on the Pokémon when the Pokémon's HP is full. Only works once.

====Icy Rock====
Price: N/A 
Sell for: [[Image:Pokébuck sign.gif]]100 
Where to find: The Underground 
Use: Increases the length of Hail by 3 turns.

====Lagging Tail====
Price: N/A 
Sell for: [[Image:Pokébuck sign.gif]]100 
Where to find: Route 226, Wild Lickitung, Wild Slowpoke 
Use: Holder always moves after the foe.

====Life Orb====
Price: N/A 
Sell for: [[Image:Pokébuck sign.gif]]100 
Where to find: Stark Mountain 
Use: Boosts the strength of moves by 30%, but costs HP with each hit. Recoil is equal to 10% of the damage done and is not blocked by Rock Head.

====Light Clay====
Price: N/A 
Sell for: [[Image:Pokébuck sign.gif]]100 
Where to find: Mt. Coronet, The Underground 
Use: Increases the length of moves like Light Screen and Reflect by 3 turns.

====Lucky Egg====
Price: N/A 
Sell for: ??? 
Where to find: 5% Chance of finding on {{p|Chansey}} (FR/LG), given to in [[Agate Village]] after completing side-mission to restore voices to Pokémon ([[Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness|XD]]) . 
Use: Doubles [[Experience Points]] gained by the Pokémon it's attached to. 
(NOTE: In fourth generation games, the experience gain is reduced to x1.5 instead of x2.) 

====Macho Brace====
Price: 
Sell for: [[Image:Pokébuck sign.gif]]1500 
Where to find: Gift from [[Winstrate family|Victoria Windstrate]] after the defeat of the whole family ([[Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire|R/S]][[Pokémon Emerald|/E]]), gift from boy in [[Pastoria City]] after showing him all three forms of {{p|Burmy}} ([[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl|D/P]]) 
Use: Doubles the [[Effort values]] (EVs) the Pokémon holding it gets, but lowers its [[stat#Speed|Speed]]. 

====Mail====
{{main|Mail}}

====Metronome====
Price: N/A 
Sell for: [[Image:Pokébuck sign.gif]]100 
Where to find: Veilstone Game Corner, Wild Chatot, Wild Kricketot and Kricketune 
Use: Boosts power of a move used consecutively, caps at 200%; resets if another move is used.

====Power Anklet====
Price: N/A 
Sell for: ? 
Where to find: Battle Park (16BP) 
Use: Promotes Speed [[EV]] gain on level up, but lowers Speed stat. Adds 4 EVs regardless of the Pokémon fought. Is doubled by Pokérus.

====Power Band====
Price: N/A 
Sell for: ? 
Where to find: Battle Park (16BP) 
Use: Promotes Special Defense [[EV]] gain on level up, but lowers Speed stat. Adds 4 EVs regardless of the Pokémon fought. Is doubled by Pokérus.

====Power Belt====
Price: N/A 
Sell for: ? 
Where to find: Battle Park (16BP) 
Use: Promotes Defense [[EV]] gain on level up, but lowers Speed stat. Adds 4 EVs regardless of the Pokémon fought. Is doubled by Pokérus.

====Power Bracer====
Price: N/A 
Sell for: ? 
Where to find: Battle Park (16BP) 
Use: Promotes Attack [[EV]] gain on level up, but lowers Speed stat. Adds 4 EVs regardless of the Pokémon fought. Is doubled by Pokérus.

====Power Lens====
Price: N/A 
Sell for: ? 
Where to find: Battle Park (16BP) 
Use: Promotes Special Attack [[EV]] gain on level up, but lowers Speed stat. Adds 4 EVs regardless of the Pokémon fought. Is doubled by Pokérus.

====Power Weight====
Price: N/A 
Sell for: ? 
Where to find: Battle Park (16BP) 
Use: Promotes HP [[EV]] gain on level up, but lowers Speed stat. Adds 4 EVs regardless of the Pokémon fought. Is doubled by Pokérus.

====Quick Powder====
Price: N/A 
Sell for: ? 
Where to find: Wild Ditto 
Use: Boosts Ditto's Speed.

====Shed Shell====
Price: N/A 
Sell for: [[Image:Pokébuck sign.gif]]50 
Where to find: Route 228, Wild Beautifly, Wild Dustox, Wild Venomoth 
Use: Allows the holder to switch with a waiting Pokémon in battle. The holder can switch out of moves like Wrap and Mean Look, and traits like Magnet Pull and Shadow Tag. The holder cannot switch out on the recharge turn of [[Hyper Beam-esque|Hyper Beam]] moves.

====Smoke Ball====
Price: 400 coins at Celadon City Game Corner 
Sell for: 
Where to find: At Celadon City Game Corner 
Use: Allows escape from wild Pokémon. 

====Soothe Bell====
Price: N/A 
Sell for: [[Image:Pokébuck sign.gif]]50 
Where to find: In [[Slateport City]], talk to the woman in the Pokémon Fan Club. 
Use: An item that increases the happiness of the Pokémon when held. 

====Sticky Barb====
Price: N/A 
Sell for: [[Image:Pokébuck sign.gif]]100 
Where to find: Veilstone Department Store, wild Cacnea and Cacturne (''D''/''P''). 
Use: Damages the holder each turn. May stick to those who physically attack the holder.

====Toxic Orb====
Price: N/A 
Sell for: ? 
Where to find: Battle Park (16BP) 
Use: Badly poisons the holder in battle. It takes a turn to work.

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Talk:Bad Egg

2007-06-30T07:23:32Z

DarkMazer: New page: ==Expansion== I would consider adding the following text to this article, but I do not know if it fits the style of Bulbapedia since I am a relatively inexperienced user. "Another metho...

==Expansion==
I would consider adding the following text to this article, but I do not know if it fits the style of Bulbapedia since I am a relatively inexperienced user.

"Another method of obtaining a bad egg involves using the gameshark code for walking through walls to enter the Colosseum without linking up. There, you will fight the last trainer you battled, and after the battle, the Pokémon you used will become a bad egg. However, this bad egg has been known to corrupt the game save file, forcing the player to start the game over again."

If this text does not work, please feel free to modify and add it. [[User:DarkMazer|DarkMazer]] 07:23, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

Talk:Held item

2007-06-30T06:21:19Z

DarkMazer: /* Chansey's Lucky Egg */

== Diamond/Pearl Locations ==

I also have the D/P locations for most of the other items here, but they can wait until I'm less tired to go up. There are one or two that I'm missing though, and wouldn't mind being backed up on multiples of items or what the prices of Battle Tower items are, so if anyone's picked up the Prima Guide over the weekend, it'd be cool to scan over what it says and what I've added in - just to make sure nothing's been missed. --[[User:Doctor Oak|Doctor Oak]] 07:08, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

are all the new D/P hold items missing from this page? i just tried looking up shed shell which says that it enables the holder to switch with a waiting pokemon in battle but wasn't sure what that meant even after trying it. Also do you think the explanations of the items could be explained more thoroughly to give more insight on how the item works and what it will do under certain circumstances. [[User:Lucasthalefty|Lucasthalefty]] 03:48, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
:I just added all the DP items to the miscellaneous list. Naturally, feel free to refine my brief explanations and sort them into proper categories, and all that good stuff. --[[User:DarkfireTaimatsu|DarkfireTaimatsu]] 05:35, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

== Protector, Magmarizer, Electrizer ==

What other purpose do they have besides evolution? It says in the description of all of them that "It is loved by a certain Pokémon". I can only assume that means Rhydon, Magmar, and Electabuzz, respectively, but does it do something to them? Does it raise their happiness when held? --'''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 16:45, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

Would be nice if the Underground articles could stop linking to this article for items that aren't here. [[User:Darien Shields|Darien Shields]] 08:08, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

== Chansey's Lucky Egg ==

Wasn't it a Lucky Egg rather than the Lucky Punch that was rarely attached to wild Chanseys in G/S/C? The Lucky Egg doubled experience gained in battle for the Pokémon holding it.

You're right. My source (Prima's Guide) says that a Lucky Egg is found attached to wild Chansey in G/S/C, and the Lucky Punch is found on Chanseys traded in the Time Capsule.
[[User:DarkMazer|DarkMazer]] 06:21, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

== Color Scarfs ==

Where we should place the Red/Blue/Green/Yellow/Pink Scarf gived by the Scarf Man in Pastoria City??, they help in the visual round of the Super Contests raising the coolness, cuteness, etc. They can be in Stat enhancing items, but Cute, Cool, etc. are not stats, or in In Battle Effect Items, but the Contest are not battles, so, I don't know. --[[User:Empoleon Bonaparte|Empoleon ''Bono'' Bonaparte]] 15:50, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

User:DarkMazer

2007-06-30T06:05:20Z

DarkMazer: New page: Welcome to my user page. I have nothing impressive here yet. ==DarkMazer== As far as Pokèmon goes, I've been playing since Red and Blue were released. I own all of the main games, ex...

Welcome to my user page. I have nothing impressive here yet.

==DarkMazer==
As far as Pokèmon goes, I've been playing since Red and Blue were released. I own all of the main games, except a few, and some of the offshoot games. My friends and I consider me to be somewhat of a master of Pokèmon, at least regarding knowledge. If you want to know more about me in general, look me up in Wikipedia.